Lawmakers should live by rules they impose on us

Most of the Georgia General Assembly’s debate consists of politicians “speaking for Buncombe.”

Speaking for Buncombe, a phrase that gave us “speaking bunk,” had its origins in an 1845 floor speech by Buncombe County, N.C., Congressman Felix Walter, who spoke at length with no expectation that his words would matter to the gathered assembly. It was “for Buncombe.”

Rare are the moments when all activity ceases, when legislators are transfixed by the speaker in the well. Such was the case Thursday with state Sen. Robert Brown of Macon, thin, almost frail after a bout with a long-mysterious illness that has been the talk of the Capitol for more than a year.

Brown, the Senate minority leader, rose to oppose a proposed rule change by the Senate Ethics Committee that would have added a failure to pay state income taxes as a reason members of that body could be sanctioned. The penalties for tax deadbeats could include, after a vote by the full Senate, expulsion.

That is a fair penalty for an elected official who intentionally, and sometimes repeatedly, avoids filing income taxes. Due process would have been built into the rules change. The occasional lapse, hardship, illnesses and disagreements over taxes owed would have been taken into consideration.

The principle is, though, that legislators should abide by the laws they impose on the rest of us.

Brown has acknowledged that he has lapses in filing state income taxes. A recently released report by the State Department of Revenue identifies 22 legislators who have not filed state income taxes for periods ranging up to six years. Of the 22, three were identified by name because actions have been taken against them. They include state Reps. Al Williams (D-Midway), Winfred Dukes (D-Albany) and Roberta Abdul-Salaam (D-Riverdale).

Brown is a private man. His decision to stand before the Senate and discuss his personal life prompted colleagues on both sides of the aisle to stop and listen to his “fireside chat.”

“Most about me,” he said, “is none of your business.” During a routine physical in May 2007, a nurse informed him that he had to go immediately to the hospital, he said.

“Two weeks later, I realized I was still in the world.” He awoke to questions: What’s your name? Who’s the president? After three months, during which his weight dropped to under 100 pounds, “I went to rehab to learn how to walk and to talk.”

During that time, he said, his small business suffered a complete turnover in personnel. Records were left in shambles. Unable to get the records together, Brown said he asked for a filing extension.

From that touching personal account of a medical experience that had been the subject of considerable speculation, Brown fell into a rant. “I want to talk about the bloodsuckers for a minute,” he said. Whereupon, he proceeded to play the race card, a ploy that included a giant video screen with an old photo of Ethics Chairman Eric Johnson (R-Savannah) with the former state flag that included the St. Andrew’s cross, with a racial swipe at vouchers, a cause championed by Johnson.

“I have never been as shocked as I am today,” said Johnson after Brown sat down. The debate, he said, was not about political theater, Rush Limbaugh, slavery, vouchers, requests for extensions, the Department of Revenue. “All this is about is that we ask members of this body to do what we ask the people of Georgia to do.”

Members were allowed by Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle to vote on the rule without having their votes recorded.

By hand count, 32 favored the change and 16 opposed. A two-thirds vote was required, so it failed. If there was a Democrat who voted for it or a Republican who voted against the change, I did not see them in the chamber.

Brown’s approach is a common one in public policy debate. It is to find an example that tugs at the heart and to represent that as being representative of all.
Ultimately, though, it comes down to this: Those who don’t live by the laws they impose should be gone.

57 comments Add your comment

hryder

March 9th, 2009
9:55 pm

Do not talk the walk unless you are willing to walk the walk.

Get Real

March 9th, 2009
10:19 pm

“Those who don’t live by the laws they impose should be gon.” Is that true Wooten? Well you can substitute priciples for laws, and that would explain the republicans very well. That want to preach (not those republicans)about being fiscally prudent while running up a massive debt for 6 years (democrats ran Congress for two years).

The druggie Limbaugh wing of your party is delusional Wooten. The man has been president for 45 days and you’re already hoping he fails. Now thats patriotism. If he indeed does, which Raghead, Musty Dusty, and @@-hole so desperately want, there isn’t anyone in the republican party to lead the country back. Funny how in 8 years, you couldn’t find one fault of George Bush, but have been one of the harshest critics of Obama a mere 45 days in. Even George Will, David Brooks, and other at least gave him a chance, your retirement can’t come soon enough Wooten.

P.S.- I had to write late to beat Raghead’s thesis paper first thing in the morning. He might as well be Wooten, he agrees with him on everything. Just like a little brother follows big brother around.

Peanut Man

March 10th, 2009
5:52 am

**What does SXABY have to hide????**

Chambliss lawyers to fight subpoena

The Associated Press
SAVANNAH, Ga. — Attorneys for U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss are heading to court in Savannah to fight a subpoena by an attorney suing Imperial Sugar.

Chatham County Superior Court Judge Herman W. Coolidge is scheduled to hear arguments from attorneys Tuesday.

Savannah lawyer Mark Tate wants to question Chambliss about whether company executives asked the senator to help it avoid blame in the February 2007 explosion at its Georgia refinery in Port Wentworth.

Senate lawyers argue Chambliss is immune from submitting to a deposition under the “speech or debate” clause of the Constitution, which shields members of Congress from testifying about legislative business in lawsuits.

Churchill's MOM

March 10th, 2009
6:03 am

Sara is my leader

Sixty-eight percent of Republican voters say their party has no clear leader, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey released Monday. Another 17 percent are undecided.

Just 5 percent view either Arizona Sen. John McCain, the GOP’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential candidate, or new Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele as the party’s leader. Two percent see conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh in that role, and 1 percent name McCain’s former running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and House Minority Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio are each seen as the GOP leader by less than one-half of 1 percent.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 10th, 2009
6:37 am

Good morning all. Many elements worthy of discussion:

(1) One is stricken that laws putting people into jail require only a majority vote, but changes to ethics rule, to allow sanction for misbehavior, require a 2/3s vote. Suggests that our overlords need special privileges.

(2) One is stricken by the unrecorded vote on the rules change. Mr. Cagle’s decision – to mask the vote – allows plausible deniability to those rascals who seek to circumvent scrutiny of their affairs.

(3) I don’t think I know Mr. Brown, but there is an element of disingenuity in his speech, as described by our genial host. The crowd reaction sounds more like rubber-neckers gawking at a car wreck rather than specific honor to brilliant oratory.

(4) Surely there are some republicans who failed to pay their taxes also? I would hope that we are not talking about instances of disputed amounts – the usual and legitimate tax disputes over “what is income” – but rather that we are talking about willful non-filers? I have represented many in good faith tax disputes, and I hope the legislature was not magnifying the genius of the bureaucrats who mistakenly misinterpret the statutes from time to time.

Mac

March 10th, 2009
6:38 am

So, what, did he have a stroke?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 10th, 2009
6:39 am

For benefit of friend Redneck, my curiously related morning rant, on the bill before Congress today:

As our Congress debates the home owner bailout bill today, Dr. Sowell asks the simple question, “why should taxpayers who live in apartments, perhaps because they did not feel that they could afford to buy a house, be forced to subsidize other people who could not afford to buy a house, but who went ahead and bought one anyway?” Our leftist overlords have determined that taxpayers are obliged to help those having trouble paying mortgages up to $725,000.

Dr. Sowell also asks, “Since the average American never took out a mortgage loan as big as seven hundred grand– for the very good reason that he could not afford it– why should he be forced as a taxpayer to subsidize someone else who apparently couldn’t afford it either, but who got in over his head anyway?” Leftists have a long tradition of being compassionate with other people’s money, so the new debt taxpayers are taking on, for benefit of the friends of Nancy, is unsurprising.

One begins to wonder, “what is beyond the pale?” Is there no non-defense spending so stupid that leftists will not support it? When Americans voted for “change” last November, they were not voting for higher taxpayer subsidies of the indolent. Americans did not hold as a high priority “destruction of the greatest health care system in the world.” (Ok, there are a few Obamaniacs who would travel to Cuba or Canada to get a heart transplant, except they would die while on the waiting list.)

Quite the opposite, the change most often cited by our leftist friends during the campaign was a desire to get away from “deficits” and “earmarks.” Almost sounds like a sick joke now, does it not, given the bill in debate before Congress today? Of course, most people who lament deficits or earmarks have no idea of the magnitude of evil arising from various economics terms.

“Earmarks” are opprobrium, not because of the adverse economic effect of the spending, but because they are a circumvention of the legislative process. An earmark is nothing more than spending inserted at a last legislative minute by one who is politically connected, to ensure the nature of the spending is not thoughtfully considered by his fellow legislators. It is the Congressional equivalent of a teen yelling as he goes out the door, “I’m going out and I took $20 from your wallet, Dad.”

“Budget Deficits” (like the similarly vacuous “trade deficits”) are a nearly-meaningless accounting construct, merely the measure of the difference between revenues and disbursements. As Congress has a poor track record in estimating both, biased to understate the “deficit,” our indignation at the imbalance has a weak and constantly changing foundation. While deficits of volition, i.e., deficits not required in response to any national emergency, have soared under President Obama, the deficit itself – any deficit – is not particularly a problem. Deficits do have consequences over the long term, in that the accumulation of debt results in rising interest rates. On balance, however, higher interest rates are less damaging to the overall economy than a tax increase for the same amount.

“Non-defense spending” is the great unspoken evil of government. This spending is a measure of the amounts that overlords appropriate from the citizenry, not to protect the citizenry, but rather to spend on the arbitrary and uneconomic preferences of the overlords. It is an excellent proxy for “erosion of freedom” and “thievery at the highest levels.” If one really wishes to calculate the evil done by the overlords, one need not look further than this single concept, both the total level and the annual change. It is time for us to change our focus – change that can do an informed voter some good.

Mac

March 10th, 2009
6:40 am

Mmmm. I love that new blog smell.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 10th, 2009
6:42 am

Dear Mac @ 6:38, my long-distance diagnosis is that Mr. Brown has a gluten allergy.

DowntownGuy

March 10th, 2009
7:32 am

Jim, I’d love to hear your comments on state republicans working to bring back sales taxes on GROCERIES! Are you kidding me? They can’t pass a law to allow counties to voluntarily decide via referendum whether or not they want Sunday retail liquor sales, and then they pitch this mess at us?! Any bum that votes for the return of state taxes on groceries should be thrown out of the state legislature without a second thought.

James

March 10th, 2009
7:34 am

As a fiscal conservative, I can’t see that either major political party “gets it”.

With the democrats, you get what you see. Tax and spenders for social gain and improvement.

With the republicans, I really believe what you get is what you can’t see.

Let’s take earmarks for example. This is where I am just about ready to throw in the towel with this bunch of republicans. Most republican members of Congress voted for President Bush’s eight budgets, all of which increased spending and the nation’s debt. All of which had wasteful earmarks. Then they lost big time in November.

Now they pledge that they won’t keep making those mistakes. So what do they do? They insert billions of dollars of earmarks in President Obama’s first budget and THEN TURNAROUND AND CRITIZE THE PRESIDENT FOR WASTEFUL SPENDING!! They rail against him (rightfully so) for going back on his promise to rail in the practice of earmarking but cede the high ground of this arguement by earmarking!

Both sides rail against the wasteful salaries and corporate jets of big business but continue to earmark. This is where neither side “gets it”. Its not necessarily the money in earmarks and salaries, it’s the symbolism that both represent.

I can’t support the democrats and their wasteful spending but I sure can’t support the republicans and their wasteful spending and their failure to realize that continuing to do and act as they have for the last eight years is no plan to regain the majority.

If there were congressional elections this year, I would probably sit out the election. I just don’t see a viable option when it comes to federal spending.

Ga Values

March 10th, 2009
7:44 am

40% of the earmarks in the budget bill are for Republicans. Both of our Socialist Senators woved AGAINST stripping out the earmarks. Saxby said he would make a difference in congress, sure for the LOBBYIST that pay him.

Kaveman

March 10th, 2009
7:58 am

Republicans don’t cut taxes on average individuals, just on corporations and the unearned income of the elite. Republicans RAISE taxes on middle class working people. Look at the taxes they are raising: property taxes on people’s homes and sales taxes on groceries. Anyone who votes republican because they “cut taxes” is officially a friggin’ moron.

Peanut Man

March 10th, 2009
7:59 am

How much money did Saxby Chambliss take from Peanut Corporation of America? What did they get for their money?

fed up

March 10th, 2009
8:05 am

To stay on topic here, anyone in a legislative role who continually doesn’t pay their taxes should be ousted. Bottom line, doesn’t matter what party they’re in or what color their skin is.

David Brooks

March 10th, 2009
8:08 am

The Democratic response to the economic crisis has its problems, but let’s face it, the current Republican response is totally misguided. The House minority leader, John Boehner, has called for a federal spending freeze for the rest of the year. In other words, after a decade of profligacy, the Republicans have decided to demand a rigid fiscal straitjacket at the one moment in the past 70 years when it is completely inappropriate.

The G.O.P. leaders have adopted a posture that allows the Democrats to make all the proposals while all the Republicans can say is “no.” They’ve apparently decided that it’s easier to repeat the familiar talking points than actually think through a response to the extraordinary crisis at hand.

If the Republicans wanted to do the country some good, they’d embrace an entirely different approach.

First, they’d take the current economic crisis more seriously than the Democrats. The Obama budget projects that the recession will be mild this year and the economy will come surging back in 2010. Democrats apparently think that dealing with the crisis is a part-time job, which leaves the afternoons free to work on long-range plans to reform education, health care, energy and a dozen smaller things. Democrats are counting on a quick recovery to help pay for these long-term projects.

Republicans could point out that this crisis is not just an opportunity to do other things. It’s a bloomin’ emergency. Robert Barro of Harvard estimates that there is a 30 percent chance of a depression. Warren Buffett says economic activity “has fallen off a cliff” and is not coming back soon.

Stock market declines are destroying $23 trillion in wealth, according to Lawrence Lindsey. Auto production is down by two-thirds since 2005. In China, 20 million migrant laborers have lost their jobs. Investment in developing countries has dropped from $929 billion in 2007 to $165 billion this year. Pension systems are fragile. Household balance sheets are still a wreck.

Republicans could argue that it’s Nero-esque for Democrats to be plotting extensive renovations when the house is on fire. They could point out that history will judge this president harshly if he’s off chasing distant visions while the markets see a void where his banking policy should be.

Second, Republicans could admit that they don’t know what the future holds, and they’re not going to try to make long-range plans based on assumptions that will be obsolete by summer. Unlike the Democrats, they’re not for making trillions of dollars in long-term spending commitments until they know where things stand.

Instead, they’re going to focus obsessively on restoring equilibrium first, and they’re going to understand that there is a sharp distinction between crisis policy-making and noncrisis policy-making. In times like these, you’d do things you would never do normally. When it’s over, we can go back to our regularly scheduled debates.

Third, Republicans could offer the public a realistic appraisal of the health of capitalism. Global capitalism is an innovative force, they could argue, but we have been reminded of its shortcomings. When exogenous forces like the rise of China and a flood of easy money hit the global marketplace, they can throw the entire system of out of whack, leading to a cascade of imbalances: higher debt, a grossly enlarged financial sector and unsustainable bubbles.

If the free market party doesn’t offer the public an honest appraisal of capitalism’s weaknesses, the public will never trust it to address them. Power will inevitably slide over to those who believe this crisis is a repudiation of global capitalism as a whole.

Fourth, Republicans could get out in front of this crisis for once. That would mean being out front with ideas to support the wealth-creating parts of the economy rather than merely propping up the fading parts. That would mean supporting President Obama’s plan for global stimulus coordination, because right now most of the world is free-riding off our expenditures. That would mean eliminating all this populist talk about letting Citigroup fail, because a cascade of insolvency would inevitably lead to full-scale nationalization. It would mean coming up with a bold banking plan, rather than just whining about whatever the Democrats have on offer.

Finally, Republicans could make it clear that that the emergency has to be followed by an era of balance. This crisis was fueled by financial decadence, and public debt could be 80 percent of G.D.P. by the time it’s over. Republicans should be the party of restoring fiscal balance — whatever it takes — not trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.

If Republicans were to treat this like a genuine emergency, with initiative-grabbing approaches, they may not get their plans enacted, but voters would at least give them another look. Do I expect them to shift course in this manner? Not really.

Peter

March 10th, 2009
8:29 am

Sarah Palin…….. Billing the taxpayers for her kids to travel to official events the children weren’t even invited to? She finally agreed to pay back the state for that money she took.

Her per diem charges to the state in the amount of $17,000 while she was living at home instead of in the governor’s mansion? She has now agreed to pay the taxes owed on that money. Another tawdry grab at a few dollars that didn’t belong to her.

Yes Jim….Here is the Republican Party at it’s best !

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
8:36 am

Did anyone get how funny Wooten’s column is today? Truth is the best humor. It just is. Now Wooten has me wondering if there’s one democrat in the country who pays his taxes.

There is no question who deserves to write professionally for the ajc, if that person is among the contributors to this forgettable freelance fish wrap. There is a soul who hoses every journalist here, and who snaps a towel at every troll. There is a writer who continually clotheslines the laundered flail of wind-chimes who wonk here. There is a writer: The Writer.

Jklol

Big Buckd GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:44 am

A few words deep in President Obama’s budget proposal have the fast
money crowd up in arms: “Tax carried interest as ordinary income.”

With those words, Andrew Ross Sorkin writes in his latest DealBook
column, the administration is seeking to close one of the biggest tax
loopholes on Wall Street — one nobody seemed to notice in good times,
when everyone was minting money.

Private equity and hedge fund types defend the favorable tax treatment
they have been getting on most of their income, and they’ve fought hard
to keep the status quo.

The idea is back on the table, however, and the tax switch would affect
others as well, including venture capital firms, real estate investment
firms and oil and gas investors — anyone who operates a partnership.

The venture capital community has already gone to Capitol Hill seeking
an exemption, arguing they are crucial to America’s entrepreneurial
spirit.

But in a show of a bit of competition between parts of the financial
industry, private equity wants to make sure venture capital gets taxed
if it is going to be taxed.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:45 am

Citi is paying about $13 million to compensate employees
who had been expected to go on various trips that were later canceled,
Reuters reported. The payouts include $3.5 million in gift cards for
top Smith Barney brokers, The New York Post said.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:46 am

Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York and Barney Frank of the House
Financial Services Committee on Monday sent a letter to Bank of America
seeking information on bonuses paid out to its employees and those of
Merrill Lynch.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:47 am

Merrill Lynch offered millions in guaranteed bonuses to lure ten Latin
American investment bankers away from UBS last spring, giving one,
Alexandre Bettamio at least $7 million,

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:47 am

Warren E. Buffett said on Monday the U.S. economy had “fallen off a
cliff” but would eventually recover, although a rebound could kindle
inflation worse than that experienced in the late 1970s.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:48 am

The New York Times Company said it raised $225 million through a
sale-leaseback deal with W. P. Carey & Company, an investment firm, for
part of The Times’s headquarters building.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
8:49 am

At least 25 investors in Bernard Madoff’s failed business are asking to
speak at a Thursday hearing at which Mr. Madoff is expected to plead
guilty,

Dusty

March 10th, 2009
8:54 am

Well, all the usual Democrats got up grouchy this morning. Sen. Brown must have gotten up grouchy that morning in the Gold Dome. And if one more person cuts’n'paste a long article, I’m going to get as grouchy as Sen. Brown. THE SUBJECT, folks. THE SUBJECT of today’s blog. ETHICS!!

I agree with Jim Wooten:”Those who don’t live by the laws they impose should be gone.” Absolutely! Even Democrats!!

Mrs. RepubLady

March 10th, 2009
9:18 am

Dusty, you TRAITOROUS WITCH! You forgot to say, “Except REPUBLICANS!” We worked TOO hard for TOO long, and have come TOO far for you to back down now on the “law applies to everyone equally” argument. What were you thinking? Do you want them to start prosecuting our Beloved former leaders like Bush and Cheney for taking their rightful exemptions? I’m so angry with you right now I could… I could…. OH, SPIT!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 10th, 2009
9:21 am

I will soothe your spirit Mrs. Repub. David Brooks @ 8:08 opens with a half truth, one that undermines the remainder of his argument. “The Democratic response to the economic crisis has its problems..” A fully-honest statement would have read, “The Democratic response to the economic crisis has no redeeming value.”

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
9:51 am

Over at Bookman’s woman2woman blog, Jay shares the simplicity of his pun palette: “Why do they call him steel? He should be called aluminum. He folded that fast.” Now, that doesn’t even make sense. Aluminum is as strong as steel and cant be folded. Aluminum FOIL, however…….The line should have been, if the author had any writing talent whatsoever, “Why do they call him steel? He was so easily foiled, he should be called aluminum. ………..he folded over so fast………..his credibility crumpled under the grilling…….from the big tent republican…….basted….reflective…..there’s a million of them..

But as it appeared, only the most blog-simple among us would have wasted a piece on that pun. Go wrap yourself, Bookman, you tin-man journalist. (I’ll let the trolls over there run with this)

Jklol

Dusty

March 10th, 2009
9:55 am

Dear Mrs RepubLady aka LIBERAL LUCY,

Please return to your padded cell immediately! You have confused President Bush and V.Pres. Cheney with the loquacious losers of NON-TAX PAYERS who now run Washington.

If, by any slim chance, you paid your taxes the last few years please send your resume pronto to Mr. Geithner, our TAX CHIEF. He needs all the help he can get. It is no secret that he FORGETS to pay his taxes now and then. You might be of some help. But I doubt it.

All Democrats have very short memories regarding their own activities. As Ragnar suggested…. more or less…. “Democratic response….has no redeeming value.” So true!

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
9:58 am

Ragnar, I never knew editing like that was possible. No really, when one reads your rewrites, with the added authority and tone, and wonderful array of meanings only you can glean from the reams of words in your repertoire, what can one say, but, “JBMLAW!”

jklol

Dusty

March 10th, 2009
10:04 am

Dear Chris Broe PoFo,

So Bookman ran you off and now you are crybaby cooing over here. Go outside! The birds are singing like crazy. They are soloing with the squirrels at the bird feeder. Get going! You need some sunshine!

Me too. I’m gone for awhile.

Glenn

March 10th, 2009
10:32 am

Ragnar, I liked your first post, especially your points (1) and (2). Mr. Cagle is quite the operator, isn’t he? He seems to specialize in defending the indefensible.

It reminds me of Ms. Pelosi running interference for the earmarks. Before Truth, always protect the members who elected you to Leadership, rather than the voters who elected you and them in the first place.

By the way, President Obama’s education speech this morning, to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, sounded like something Aaron Sorkin would write, only devoid of ideas and specifics. He did endorse merit pay for good teachers, however, and called upon the states to develop more agressive programs to root out “bad teachers” who fail repeatedly to measure up to *federal* expectations. That should be a hard sell viz the NEA, of course, unless a deal had been cut during the election.

All in all, he spent the speech couching his obvious goal to federalize education in terms of “cooperation” with the states, calling upon them repeatedly to enact his objectives, all of which can only conduce to nationalization.

Silverchief

March 10th, 2009
10:39 am

The head of the Department of Revenue for the State is on the list of the non tax payers……….Fire them all !!!!!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 10th, 2009
10:59 am

Dear Glenn, probably really @ 11:32 as the blog seems to remain on standard time, I think you are on target re: Mr. Cagle. Nobody has to go on the record in a manner that could embarrass later. That sort of thing could lead to cynicism.

Dear PoFo @ various times, you are in good form today, consistently entertaining, my compliments.

Peter

March 10th, 2009
11:14 am

Hey Dusty……..

.”I agree with Jim Wooten:”Those who don’t live by the laws they impose should be gone.” Absolutely! Even Democrats!!”

How about Sarah Palin the tax evader herself…should she be gone ?

Jackie

March 10th, 2009
11:44 am

The Repubs, were they not so destructive, would be a joke.
They have worked on their “political double-speak” with the apparent outcome being they have much more work to do. Only a few of the truly devoted and those lacking the will and/or ability to understand what is being said versus what is being done still tolerate them.

The Repubs have brought pain and misery and they want to stand back and obstruct those who are trying to clean up their mess. Classic example of “throwing the rock and hiding their hands.”

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
11:57 am

You should watch Kudlow spitting on himself over the short covering today on the earnings reports. This guy is great. He’s always spinning bull. Cnbc.

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
12:02 pm

The ashes of conservatism appear here regularly. Republicans have already wasted weeks of retorts on blaming Obama for Bush. They may as well say, “Why couldn’t the Chosen One, the Messiah Obama have stopped us from being ourselves for the past eight years? Where was he? Why didn’t he vote against the war? Okay bad example…..

The conservatives have nothing. Not a thing.

Curious

March 10th, 2009
12:46 pm

Is that a GOLF TAN or a spray-on tan?

AmVet

March 10th, 2009
12:48 pm

Dr. Broe @ 12:02,

Any rational, reasonable American would think that with less than 21 months until the next election, the Republiconned would not be wasting a single moment trying to stem their ever-worsening hemorrhaging.

Yet…

Electoral Bloodbath, Part Trois. Coming to an election everywhere next year.

fed up

March 10th, 2009
12:56 pm

Peter the difference between Palin and the people mentioned in this article (if what you said in your first post is true) “She has now agreed to pay the taxes owed on that money.” I don’t think they’ve paid and in some cases will even admit they owe, although there are liens against some of them.

Peter

March 10th, 2009
1:32 pm

Hey Fed up……… I find that “special”…….. she tried to rip off Taxpayers and got caught……Gee all those Vacations and money spent on her family…..

HA HA HA……. Funny stuff from your Republican LEADER ! No wonder the party is basically leader less !

Apparently the rules do not appear for big mouth Rush as well…..

Remember he said…..if you get caught doing drugs …….you should do the TIME !

Of course he got caught, and did ZERO TIME…..!

Republican’s and their lies…… all part of “Republican Family Values” !

Dusty

March 10th, 2009
1:45 pm

Dear Peter,

How exciting!! In the next big election, Sarah Palin can choose her job. She can be either President or Treasury Secretary . Palin knows how real people live, is experienced in governing and can make a good speech without a teleprompter. She is also THRIFTY! A winner!

But if she declines the presidential job, she can be Secretary of the Treasury. All you need for that is an excusable forgot-taxes mistake and you’ve got it made. Look at Sec. Geithner. Forgot his taxes but got forgiveness. Obama said anybody can make a little mistake. Voters look at Obama and say “That is true!”

So you and Churchill’s Mommy keep us posted on Palin news. She is very interesting and we all like to hear about her. A star on the rise! So much more capable than the Dem duds now running Washington.

fed up

March 10th, 2009
2:02 pm

From what I read the rules were changed in midstream on Palin…bottom line she paid up. Can you debate anything without name calling, Peter? Seems that almost everyone on this blog and Bookman’s that lean to the left make it their mission to viciously attack anyone that doesn’t wholeheartedly agree with them. Pathetic.

Big Bucks GOP

March 10th, 2009
2:14 pm

for you rookies looking at the market & getting ready to jump in, 2 words.. BEAR TRAP…

Peter

March 10th, 2009
2:37 pm

HA HA HA………Fed up and Dusty……

“Rules changed mid stream ” ? HA HA HA……. Yes taking her kids on events they were not invited too, and charging tax payers for their trip……working more days from home then in the office…..and then charging taxpayers to do so….?

Yes I imagine there was a “change in the tax code” ! OPS…… you mean she got caught !

Fed up……You know for certain she sent in the check ? We do know she acknowledged she is wrong !

Yes a star on the rise Dusty……. is that from the helicopter she uses to kill wild animals ?

Apparently you don’t have to be smart to be a Republican…..heck a Republican can just look across the sea, and call one’s self internationally savvy !

Perfect leadership for the Republican party ! She and Big Mouth Rush are really leading the way !

fed up

March 10th, 2009
2:41 pm

You’re calling someone a big mouth, Peter. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Don’t go away mad, just go away.

SOUTHERN ATL

March 10th, 2009
2:48 pm

I am confused as to why Georgia’s Senators would request $209,000 to study ways to improve BLUEBERRY production. The media has swamped the nation daily concerning the problems that occurred with the PEANUT butter plant. This is very embarassing for the state of Georgia!!! Why not study/research ways to make the prodution of PEANUT butter safe?????

Chris Broe

March 10th, 2009
3:56 pm

Probably skidded along the bottom enough. Kudlow’s head is about to explode. He’s actually been spitting all day. If he’s not the head of the republican party, he’s certainly the horn of the bull.