Yes, Sherman was a ruthless warrior who inflicted as much damage on the enemy as possible, while always trying to minimize casualties of his own troops. He was willing to do what ever it took to end (and WIN) the war – things which would now get him crucified in the liberal media. I read somewhere that he said he would rather be responsible for the deaths of 100 enemy civilians than one of his own soldiers. Sherman was the kind of general I would want to lead me in war. And I am a southerner and a native Georgian.

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I think it should be returned and used as a floor mat under the urinal.

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I understand that the Civil War is a part of our history but its celebrated too much. Some whites celebrate as if they actually won. I live in Kennesaw and everything is Confederacy this and Confederacy that. Honestly who gives a f*ck. The war is over and the south lost. Can we just move on. Southern white culture didn’t begin when Fort Sumter was attacked it was around long before then. The funny part is when blacks whine about slavery you all tell them not to dredge up the past but you want the losing confederate flag to hang over the capital and represent the state of Georgia. Whether the war was about slavery or not the two are forever intertwined. You can’t celebrate and honor one and try and sweep the other under the rug. We need to move on and celebrate how far we have come from those god awful days.

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What a sexy man! I’m going up to Marietta and get me a free picture.

Putting it over the urinal really makes sense. A group of confederates with proper training could beat back a fire just by using their bodily fluids.

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Horsetoothedjackass why should I go anywhere? This is as much my home as much as yours.

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I’ve always understood that Sherman’s March to the Sea was mostly strategic: destroy the Confederate supply lines (railroads) and food supplies (agricultural crops) that went to the Confederate troops, demoralize the local populations so they would quit supplying

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As a former resident of both Marietta and Kennesaw I also would have removed Uncle Billies image from any mens room It was and is insulting.

Would you still find the humor in it had it been replaced with Mars Robert ?? I think not

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The defense of Atlanta was rendered a lost cause as soon as the upper command ordered away the one man who Sherman truly feared facing in battle — Lt. Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest (my Great, Great, Great Grandfather!!!!). They left Gen. Forrest to fight in Western Tennessee and northern Alabama. He asked command to allow him to take his forces south to defend the railroad yards at Atlanta (which was the only reason Sherman came here in the first place), but was ordered to maintain his fight in the west instead. We still would have lost the war eventually, purely due to the industrial and manufacturing capabilities of the North at the time, but I feel safe in saying that Sherman would have never come anywhere near Atlanta if he had thought Forrest was here because he was openly terrified of him (as was repeatedly noted by many of his senior officers and by Gen. Grant) and he knew that Forrest had absolutely no problem with returning the favor and waging “total war” on the North. But, Gen. Lee being a southern gentleman (a trait which caused him to lose the war when he had it as good as won in 1863 but refused to destroy Washington DC and all of the politicians there) kept him reigned in and never allowed him to unleash the army of Tennessee on the northern states. All that being said, I feel that Sherman largely gets a bad rap from most folks in Georgia. You do know that more than a few of his senior staff officers were from Georgia, don’t you? That is why there are several smaller towns east of Atlanta (Monticello being one of the most note-worthy) that still have the beautiful antebellum homes — because Sherman spared those towns at the request of officers in his command who were from those places. But everything else got burned, which is exactly how you SHOULD wage war! I am a native Georgian and one side of my family has been in Atlanta since before it was named Marthasville (Lots of stuff around here still bears the Medlock name, which is my Mother’s side of the family), but Sherman didn’t do anything that WE shouldn’t have done to Washington DC and Maryland once we crossed the Potomac, and he should not be as reviled as he is. He was an outstanding strategist and understood that the only way to win was to completely defeat the south, otherwise they would face insurgent warfare for decades. I also find it ironic that he was absolutely appalled at the treatment given to the south during reconstruction. He had spent a large portion of his life among southerners and knew their spirit well, so he was not at all pleased with the vengeful attitude of most of his peers. He felt the war was over and we were all Americans again and that the focus should be on reconciliation instead of revenge. But most folks knowledge of the man stops with “He burned Atlanta, therefore he was a POS!”. Understandable, I suppose, but it doesn’t at all give the whole picture of a rather enigmatic man.

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@ 230gr Full Metal Jacket

Bedford Forest founded the Klu Klux Klan. There is no good in him.

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@ 230gr Full Metal Jacket.

While the fireworks begin to go off, I will provide a diversionary tactic by pointing out the inaccuracy of your statement: “Gen. Lee being a southern gentleman (a trait which caused him to lose the war when he had it as good as won in 1863 but refused to destroy Washington DC and all of the politicians there)….”

Sorry. It was 1864, and General Lee in Richmond would have been quite happy to destroy Washington DC through the agency of his Confederate General Jubal Early. Early slipped back from Richmond to Washington after General Grant had withdrawn most of his troops to fight in Virginia. He was stopped for a day by the Battle of Monocacy 45 miles away from Washington—in which my own great, great-grandfather fought– which was just enough time for General Grant to rush back his troops and defeat those of General Early, who did enter Washington.

And now I’ll step back to cover.

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It was probably some LSU fan

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And again, as a note of historical accuracy, while Nathan Bedford Forrest was one of the originators of the KKK, it was not intended as a hate group initially, but more of a police group as law enforcement was spread very thin in the south after the war. When it began to evolve into a hate group, Forrest tried his best to kill it off, but it was too far gone. He was actually considered one of the champions of racial harmony in the post war south, especially in Tennessee. See his speech to one of the earliest black rights groups in 1875: http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/092007/09092007/310000

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Americans must again learn to think and believe as did our White and Black whig Founders. Their utopian Whiggism – the diametrically anti-Fascist individual sovereignty of American Exceptionalism – is enshrined in the rarely understood three mottoes of our credal civil religion for which the Creator once prospered and protected us: Novus Ordo Seclorum; E Pluibus Unum; and, Annuit Coeptis.

Rome was “the Wall Street of slavery” for over 2,000 years. When during Mr. Jefferson’s administration the importation of slaves became illegal (had his Declaration’s First Draft been left unedited slavery would have ended immediately), from Rome’s “Big Slavery,” and Roman Catholic immigrants who got “off the boat” in the South went inland and stopped being papists, never to send back for priests (as can be easily confirmed by googling “1855 Roman Catholic Church census” – Margaret Mitchell was Roman Catholic and a propagandist for Rome by fabricating the Roman Catholic “O’Haras”), Rome knew they had a big “problem” in America. Their faithful DuPonts were sent here to help “solve” the problem in the way Caesar always wins: through “divide and conquer,” selling shot and shell from their Delaware factories to both the North and South.

Sherman was a Roman Catholic leading Roman Catholic troops. Craven, vested WASPs like Rockefeller and Carnegie, bought their way out of the draft for $300.

After Rome’s Fifth Column’s victory they nailed the symbol of the power and authority of Rome, the antithesis of Whiggism, to the front wall of the U.S. House: the Fasces.

This is why we now live in a “de facto” fascist state with only the Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court illegally violating settled law to cheat a homosexual psychopath into the White House to commit 9/11. The CIA and FBI are both Roman Catholic-run, as is Congress, controlled by Rome’s plurality. GHW Bush, and his Hitler-financing father’s protege, Nixon, oversaw the Knight of Malta-led CIA’s proven assassination of President Kennedy (E. Howard Hunt’s deathbed confession confirms the jury’s judgment in ‘Hunt v. Marchetti’) six weeks after his NSAM263 had ended our role as papal catspaw in Vietnam on the side of the five percent Roman Catholic colonial elite which owned 95% of the wealth whose leader openly bragged on the BBC that Hitler (a molested Roman Catholic altarboy) was his “hero,” and to “reverse” JFK’s EO11,110, which had ended Rome’s bankers’ illegal money frachise, known as the “Federal Reserve Bank.”

During JFK’s term we used constitutional money, U.S. Notes, not Fed. Res. Notes, by which Americans are now, through debasement, being rendered insolvent, and the false elite manipulators have off-shored $30 trillion to destroy any threat from the People, as well as staging such events as 9/11 and the Aurora Shooting to take away our rights, money, and Second Amendment.

“They” know what “they” are doing, as do the Roman “sharks’” Talmudic “suckerfish” who have been profiting with their Roman masters for thousands of years and now believe they have “magically” turned we reviled “goyim” into their “golem” shedding innocent blood in the Middle East on behalf of the State of Israel.. It’s ironic, to say the least, that the prophecies of Isaiah concerning the New Israel apply only to Gentile-founded America, “into which all nations of the world flow,” not to the racist tribalism which is the State of Israel.

The Bushes have been fronting the Vatican banker Rockefellers (who oversee the largest cash-flow in history, the RCC collection plate funds from which they financed the rise of Nazism through Knight of Malta Prescott Bush) since they together built what is now Roman Catholic “Big Oil” on unredressed murder and arson in 1870’s Cleveland. It is no coincidence the oil we’ve now stolen in Iraq, and look to in Iran, has essentially “disappeared” as gas prices continue to rise.

Truth and Justice is of G-d, as must be Our Holy and Righteous Nation.

Smithian Capitalism requires the maintenance of Truth and Justice in society.

Sherman was, like Hitler, just a product of priestly molestation.

Rome’s Hitler-financing, JFK-assassinating, 9/11-committing Rockefeller-Bush Roman Catholic CIA/FBI Fed Fifth Column fascist plutocracy must be fully expropriated and judicially disposed, along with all the Roman Church’s property, the largest in the U.S. other than the Federal Government’s, acquired after their agents precipitated The Crash of ‘29.

Thomas Jefferson was Our Founder and Author, but he was also a Prophet of G-d and correctly knew Rome and its Babylonian pedophile priesthood to be “the real Anti-Christ,” “an engine for enslaving mankind.” Sherman was just another of Satan’s victims, but Atlanta, Georgia, and America must now be free of Satan, just as the urinal in Marietta is free of Sherman’s satanic visage.

G-d is not mocked: Death for Treason

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I can’t believe we are still fighting over this. All the items of the confererate war are artifacts of a terrible time in history, we should use it as a way to teach what not to do. Both sides were awful, but slavery should have never happened. There was black slavery and white slavery. Slavery was the point and we should be ashamed that it happened and we even had to have a war to stop it. The Flag of Dixie is a symbol of that time. It is an artifact but not the flag of America anymore. No picture or book, or flag should be stolen. Shame on all the hateful comments. We just keep it going and keep it going. If you are not a person of wealth and privilege, you will be a prisoner of slavery in the near future. One mistake, one comment to the wrong person, one mistep, and in jail working for the CEO’s of corporations, just like China. Stop fighting each other and come together for the good of this country that so many lives have been lost for. Did they all die in vain? Sounds like they did. From the Civil War, to WWI, to WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Iraq and Afghanistan. All your loved one died for nothing. Just keep it up. Shame on all of the haters.

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Firebrand, As far as the rape and pillage, that comes with war. War is evil. There is nothing about war that is good. Even some of our soldiers have comitted rape on the people of the land, their own women soldiers. War is not a football game. So stop the wars. Enough is enough. We never learn.

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HAVING A PICTURE OF THIS ARSONIST STOLEN IS OF NO GREAT LOSS TO ANYONE. I AM SURE HE IS IN HELL STOKING THE FIRES HE ENJOYED PLAYING WITH SO MUCH ON EARTH.

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This is whay as a Southerner I am still amazed at the lack ok historical knowledge. Sherman did NOT burn Atlanta dowm. The Confederates wanted to leave nothing that could be used by Sherman when he reached Atlanta. The fire was spread by Atlantans after that.
Please get it right, my people.

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If you forget history you are doomed to repeat it. Well, it’s good to see that see many southerners still remember. They are less likely to repeat the ignorant decision that led to the War of Southern Stupidity in the first place. Sherman’s actions were warranted by the actions of conceited, puffed-up southern blowhards that needed to learn the message of humility. Lincoln, Sherman, Grant and others defended our precious Constitution and, in doing so, helped end slavery much sooner than the south would have allowed.

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Chris, respectfully, read the slave narratives for a clear view of the entire spectrum of the slave experience in America. Just like the idiots who beat women and children today, yes, there were slave beaters. But there were many examples of slaves being treated quite well. I am not defending the institution – there is no defending it. But, just as our descendants hopefully won’t judge us too harshly for our social ills like abortion or illegitimate births or many others, it is too easy to judge 18th century mores through a set of eyes 200 years removed. All hands were dirty in the slave trade – white and black.

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@ Firebrand, August 2nd, 8:42 am: “Chris, respectfully, read the slave narratives for a clear view of the entire spectrum of the slave experience in America. Just like the idiots who beat women and children today, yes, there were slave beaters. But there were many examples of slaves being treated quite well.”

Those American slave narratives should be read with an enormous helping of salt. It was illegal for slaves to be literate or to teach them to read and write, so with the obvious exception of the one by Frederick Douglass, most narratives were dictated to white abolitionists. We don’t really know how much was the slave’s actual narrative and how much was added by the white abolitionist, or how much was suppressed by the slave to this white person writing down the words. The slave’s distrust of white people ran pretty deep, even Northern white people.

The American mid-19th century was a prudish time. Did the abolitionist taking down the narrative keep back some of the more terrible graphic details of the floggings and punishments for any sign of resistance that we know now from other records was a day-to-day part of chattel slavery? Or censor the actual slave rapes and the sexual slavery that we know now was part of Southern slavery? Did the abolitionist add anything to the slave’s narrative, such as religious conversions and pieties?

In addition to the slave narratives, go back to the letters and journals of the slave-owners and their wives (who often had to endure seeing the slave-children who looked like her husband). for a picture of Southern slavery. Study also what happened to those slaves who dared to run away to the North….and think how bad it must have gotten for them to flee.

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@ Firebrand, August 1st, 10:20 pm: “…just as a note of accuracy and not hyperbole, killing and maiming slaves would have been the dumbest thing for slaveowners to do, since slaves were very expensive investments.”

Perhaps, but the slave-owners had the very real problem of slave runaways to the North. Why else do you think they persuaded the federal government to pass the Fugitive Slave Act in 1850 that prohibited Northerners from assisting slave fugitives? Also, slave-owners greatly feared bloody slave revolts, for many took place in Southern states following the supreme slave revolt of the Haitian Revolution from 1791-1803.

You’re going to kill and maim those who you think might kill and maim you, or whose fleeing might be an example for your other slaves. Maybe it’s “the dumbest thing” to do with a business investment, but these “pieces of chattel” were getting increasingly desperate.

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Should have been hung over the sh#$#@!@#$er

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To both of the doe heads, the ones at the museum and the theif. t just goes to prove that after all these years the average georgian is just as dumb as their for fathers were when Sherman whipped them in 1864! lets put lee over the toilet next, where he belongs!

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