Ads for filmed-in-Atlanta “Neighborhood Watch” pulled due to Trayvon Martin case
A promotional movie poster for "Neighborhood Watch," which was filmed in Atlanta
A Ben Stiller-Vince Vaughn comedy filmed in metro Atlanta last year has absolutely nothing to do with the Travyon Martin case, but its ads have been pulled nonetheless.
The movie’s name: “Neighborhood Watch.”
The flick, which filmed scenes all over metro Atlanta last year, stars Stiller, Vaughn, Jonah Hill and was directed by Akiva Schaffer. The plot concerns a group of suburban dads who stumble onto an alien plot to take over the world.
But the studio is evidently concerned that the phrase “neighborhood watch” now conjures images of the Martin case. The Florida teen was shot to death by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman.
The movie comes out in July. Twentieth Century Fox has pulled early promotional materials and said in a statement that while the movie obviously has nothing to do with the Sanford, Fla. shooting, the company is “very sensitive to the Trayvon Martin case.”
- Jennifer Brett/The Buzz/jbrett@ajc.com
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Ron Burgundy
March 28th, 2012
9:55 am
Lets take down every movie cause its insensitive to some case out there.
a reasonable person
March 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Idiots with Guns is the main problem.
Harris
March 28th, 2012
10:22 am
For a reasonable person I thought you would be reasonable. I guess you could say idiots with knives too since a recent Florida Stand Your Ground claim was used after an individual stabbed a robber to death. Guns are certainly not the problem. 8M+ legal gun owners didn’t kill anyone yesterday. However, if you want to make being an idiot illegal, I will stand by you.
Cammi317
March 28th, 2012
10:27 am
Even though it’s a comedy, I can see their thinking on this one. I still can’t understand why Zimmerman pursued him after the police dispatcher asked him not to do so. All he had to do was wait for the police. Instead he decided to play Superman with a gun resulting in a dead child and his being treated for PTSD. I have a feeling that his PTSD has a lot to do with replaying what happened in his mind and realizing that by following and subsequently agrressively approaching that child while armed, he created the perceived “danger” that led to his pulling the trigger.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:29 am
I’m lactose intolerant. Can you please pull Milk ads? It’s offensive. Maybe you should pull ads for sweats and not allow advertising for hoodies either. Also, can you please put more ubiquitous, what race are they people on billboards and advertisements? I don’t want to be able to tell what nationality a person is when I see a commercial. I might get offended.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:30 am
Oh boy. Russell Athletics will probably get sued soon. Maybe their ads should be removed.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:31 am
Better go ahead and remove milk ads too for all of the lactose intolerant people.
Gerhulk
March 28th, 2012
10:36 am
This is a tad much. respecting the situation is cool, but its a movie. Where is the outrage for the boy set on fire in MO? Where is Al Sharpton and Reverend Jesse for that kid? You have black on black crime, white on white crime, hate crimes, and etc.all the time all over the place. What makes the Trayvon case so special? It’s all for political gain and it makes me sick. How about the liberal media and everyone trying to gain something from this quit being hypocrites and actually do something usefull. This is a dog and pony show when it is an every day tragedy that occurs all over the place.
http://www.gimmemo.com/03/2012/teen-hate-crime-13-year-old-kansas-city-boy-set-fire-while-walking-school
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:39 am
Cammi – Zimmerman has a permit and a constitutional right to carry a gun. Martin does not have a constitutional right to punch and slam the head of someone into the ground. It’s a sad, unfortunate thing to have happened, but the troubled youth with discipline problems rolled the dice and unfortunately lost. If 15 burglaries have been committed by young black males, some with hoodies in a neighborhood, maybe walking around at night and ignoring the neighborhood watch is not such a good idea. All he had to do was say, “I’m going home. I live here.” But instead he chose to be defiant and fight. Sadly, he probably was the kind of kid that would have ended up shooting or being shot eventually anyway.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:43 am
Troubled teen walks through neighborhood where 15 robberies have happened in a month, fitting the description of the suspects. He doesn’t tell neighborhood watch that he lives there. Instead he punches and slams his head into the ground and in turn gets shot. No story here.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
10:44 am
I have good comments related to this topic that are not offensive and they keep getting blocked. Thanks for the objective “BUZZ!”
Diego
March 28th, 2012
10:45 am
It is a shrewd move. Unfortunate timing of the movie; they probably will just change the film title, or maybe shelve the film for a year.
@Harris, yes I’d say an idiot with a knife was a problem indeed with your other scenario, and Zimmerman certainly does seem to have been an idiot with a gun, as opposed to, say, an idiot with a ham sandwich.
Atlanta Native
March 28th, 2012
10:46 am
What I don’t get is why the security industry hasn’t come up with a deterrant that is stronger than mace, that would stop someone in their tracks, without killing them. Stun guns and tasers I think can only be used by the police. Do you really need to put a bullet through someone to keep them from attacking you? Seems like, with all the trips to the moon and the Pentagon’s sophisticated weapons, they would have come up with an in-between remedy. Or, are Americans so obsessed with murder that nothing else but a gun will do?
k
March 28th, 2012
11:08 am
to TLANTA NATIVE, “Do you really need to put a bullet through someone to keep them from attacking you?” needs to be shortened to….. “Do you really need…someone…attacking you?” It is a shame from the actions of a few, the rest must be in fear to exist…. FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE….. from the innocent walking home, to the innocent in his abode…..
no surprise her
March 28th, 2012
11:11 am
I appreciate the fact that 20th Century Fox sees the sensitiveness of the issue. Yes, it may seem over the top but the powers that be understand that the title WILL distract people from (1) the movie and (2) Treyvon… Rename the movie and begin promotions… I love that EVERYONE is taking notice of Treyvon…
no surprise her
March 28th, 2012
11:13 am
@Atlanta Native.. No, civilians can use tasers.. The voltage is different that the voltage the police use but still very effective.. there are lots of types too… google it!
no surprise her
March 28th, 2012
11:15 am
while the facts are not out regarding Treyvon’s case.. @Chris I HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL right to whop the a$$ of anybody following me and threatening me when I have done ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong… While I doubt that LITTLE BOY.. whopped the BIG man’s behind.. I still don’t see a reason he followed him and claimed he had a weapon… Lies will NOT prosper.. at least we pray the won’t..
Pedro
March 28th, 2012
11:17 am
I walk my neighborhood for my health, sometimes at night, and sometimes I carry. I have a concealed carry permit and I can choose between several of my personal weapons. What do I choose? Bear spray. I do not want to kill anyone and the bear spray will shoot a disabling stream nearly 20 feet. BTW, a can of hornet spray will achieve the same purpose although it may permanently blind the recipient. To summarize; alternatives are already available.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
11:19 am
no surprise her (sic) –
Actually, you don’t have the right to whop anyone’s a$$ for asking you a question and/or following you. That is called aggravated assault. Slamming a person’s head into the ground crosses over into attempted murder.
MomPossible
March 28th, 2012
11:20 am
He is not a little boy. He is a 6′3″ teenager. The pictures released by his family must be several years old.
Bo Diddley
March 28th, 2012
11:23 am
Wow. Interesting turn this board has taken. As a law-abiding gun owner who “looks like Trayvon Martin”, I’ll just say that you can have mine when you have ensured that criminals don’t have guns. Criminals don’t go through federal firearms background checks and licensed dealers to get guns, and tightening gun laws just makes it harder for people like me to legally protect myself while the criminals continue arming themselves illegally. This tragedy is about racial profiling, not gun ownership. Nice try, though.
carla roqs
March 28th, 2012
11:23 am
chris? you have had too much milk
Chris
March 28th, 2012
11:25 am
Carla -
No, but I tried posting shorter comments when the first two I tried to post were held for moderation. Now I have several comments posted, when only one was initially intended.
shut up
March 28th, 2012
11:35 am
@chris, shut the f**k up
Chris
March 28th, 2012
11:37 am
shut up = no surprise her
Ms MJ
March 28th, 2012
11:41 am
Most of the people on here commenting probably won’t even see the movie……
@ Chris
March 28th, 2012
11:43 am
I’m with you. The truth will come out. The kid had 4-5 inches on Zimmerman. Now we’re learning about the kid’s troubled past. Doesn’t sound like a pillar of society to me. On suspension for drugs? Perhaps he could have answered Zimmerman’s question with some manners and respect and there would have been no incident. Didn’t his mama teach him that? (My guess is no – he was out and too busy “collecting” jewelry in his backpack, defacing school property, and carrying drugs to school. Racial profiling, no way. Perhaps if the kid had a clean past instead of being out of school on a 10-day suspension plus all of the other dirty issues from his past, I’d believe otherwise, but this was no honor student, student council president.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:47 am
He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. Just saying….
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:49 am
Zimmerman’s past has been plagued with violence. He’s been arrested for Violence against women and a police officers, yet HE is the victim? I’m amazed you people are smart enough to read (though not comprehend) this blog.
I guess you really CAN teach the blind to lead the blind.
@ Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:51 am
Apparently, Trayvon needed to lay off the violence as well. Bashing a smaller man’s head into the sidewalk certainly didn’t pan out well for him. Just saying…
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:52 am
Perhaps he could have answered Zimmerman’s question with some manners and respect and there would have been no incident. Didn’t his mama teach him that?
Zimmerman – Hey you _____________ what are you doing in this neighborhood?
Martin – Screwing your wife.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
11:54 am
Um, hey long title person, I haven’t shot anyone or been arrested for anything violent. Zimmerman’s domestic dispute was mutual, so they both were charged and had restraining orders. Do YOUR homework.
By the way, not that it matters, but I’m a Christian and non-violent. Your speculation about me and others makes you the blind one. See you in church Sunday?
Ugene
March 28th, 2012
11:54 am
This whole thing is just getting beyond ridiculous and it’s the mainstream media whose at fault. They purposely stoked the flames of racism by calling Zimmerman white and portraying Trayvon as this angelic little kid both of which have now been shown to be wrong.
SAWB
March 28th, 2012
11:56 am
It really does not seem necessary any rational person can see there is no connection between the incident in Florida and the film. However, since so many people are acting irrationally I guess it makes sense to hold off on the film. Maybe one day people will learn to lead with their intellect and not their emotions.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:56 am
Apparently, Trayvon needed to lay off the violence as well. Bashing a smaller man’s head into the sidewalk certainly didn’t pan out well for him. Just saying…
He outweighed him by 100 pounds and he was smaller than him? Jeesh!! I hope you’re not a schoolteacher. You have zero math comprehension. Zero reading comprehension; and you’re probably scared of a girlscout selling cookies that you have to carry a gun everywhere to feel safe.
God Bless your poor, silly, punk heart.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
11:58 am
Zimmerman’s domestic dispute was mutual, so they both were charged and had restraining orders. Do YOUR homework
Was his assault on the cop mutual too? Just asking.
OH and you’d better be careful, your faux christianity is showing…… Just saying……
Chris
March 28th, 2012
12:03 pm
There is nothing faux about me, but thanks for judging!
Practical Person
March 28th, 2012
12:09 pm
Sometimes good marketing requires a name change – sounds like this is one of those times. Only the hungry choose to eat “pink slime” but people will buy it if it’s called “enriched hamburger.” Now is NOT the time for a movie named “Neighborhood Watch” – - maybe “Community Characters” would be more appropriate.
Reality Check
March 28th, 2012
12:09 pm
I find it difficult to believe that anyone can claim racism in modern day America. We have elected a black president, we have made Oprah Winfrey everything but royalty in this country. I think we have proven that we value people from every ethnic background, that is fact. Now what it has boiled down to is that those folks that don’t want to be lawful citizens and educate themselves to become a contributor to society want to pull the race card when things don’t go their way. Racism is over folks, deal with it.
Sash
March 28th, 2012
12:11 pm
Chris, stop commenting. Each comment is more offensive, insensitive, and ignorant than the one before it!
Sick of the Bull
March 28th, 2012
12:13 pm
@Chris – Perhaps he could have answered Zimmerman’s question with some manners and respect and there would have been no incident.
Zimmerman was not an authority figure to Trayvon Martin – He was a stranger. A stranger that was stalking him. Martin was not obligated to answer any questions posed by the wanna be cop. Martin had just as much right to ’stand his ground’ as Zimmerman claims he had.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
but thanks for judging!
Like you judged the dead kid on the ground? I’d say we were about even on the “judgement” meter wouldn’t you?
Lynn
March 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
The fact that somebody like George Zimmerman could get a license to carry proves how out-of-control our gun laws (and gun rights lobbyists) are. Zimmerman had had several brushes with the law, not to mention his “hobby” of impersonating a Neighborhood Watch member.
THE hard TRUTH
March 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
Here we go (1) Treyvon was 6 ft tall, have you seen the pictures where he “does not look like he’s in pre-school”? (2) Treyvon was on suspension from school WHEN shot. (3) Treyvon had been suspended at least TWO other times. EYE WITNESSES say HE WAS BEATING Zimm- BEFORE HE WAS SHOT. THIS IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER DUKE LACROSS CASE. Sad the kid was shot, but stuff happens when you are out that late, and in the dark. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO HAS A GUN. The kid just made a mistake and paid for it with his LIFE. WHY DO BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE TO PLAY THE RACE CARD.
*Giggle*
March 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
all i will say is, it’s so easy for some ppl in our society to assume, comment, and it’s hard for them to believe that authorities and ppl in power do not play the ‘cover-up’ game. if you’ve never been harassed, followed, considered “suspicious” based on your color, age, gender, then you can never relate so it’s easier for you to question God, rather than shame the Devil. If anyone heard the 911 tape, Zimmerman called and said a guy was acting/looking suspicious and the operator immediately asked “is he black or hispanic?” so these minority groups are automatically suspicious on that fact alone. whether this is part of their training is not my field of expertise but having experienced it first hand, it’s safe to say that whatever bad things Trayvon did at school (by the way he has no criminal record), that specific night he was walking to his family’s home.
Having been a block captain in my subdivision, any legitimate watch program is sponsored and worked in conjunction with their local police dept. In these meetings, officers explicitly, affirmatively, and emphatically stress that homeowners do NOT get involved in any criminal activity whatsoever. Your job is to only call the police. I have witnessed several instances of legit suspect behavior and i did not grab my gun to instigate, follow, or play cop. you call the REAL cops and let them resolve the matter.
SAWB
March 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
“I find it difficult to believe that anyone can claim racism in modern day America.”
Yes, a very good point, but keep in mind “racism” has become the excuse for everything. So, since racism is no longer a major issue people have to take more personal responsibility and they don’t want to do that. Also, a large group of people use claims of racism to promote political campaigns and most importantly to raise money.
Reality Check needs a Reality Check
March 28th, 2012
12:20 pm
Racism is over? Really? REALLY??
Kitty
March 28th, 2012
12:22 pm
Remember Hidden Hills Golf Course? Those kids were suspended from School that day. The youngest one had a gun to the back of my husbands head as he was going through his pockets as he laid on the ground. Kid was much smaller than my husband. So…..
THE hard TRUTH
March 28th, 2012
12:22 pm
Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ARE the worst of the worst the human race has to offer. It just kills them that Barack Obama beat them to the – dare I say it – the WHITE HOUSE.
CmcrR
March 28th, 2012
12:27 pm
It’s this kind of knee-jerk response to a sad situation that adds weight to the fear of words in America. Let’s talk. You know, that thing grown-ups do.
@ THE hard TRUTH
March 28th, 2012
12:36 pm
Don’t you just love it when the truth hurts? Thank you for pointing out the facts which many are trying to ignore. When will our society stop giving any weight to the race card? It’s ridiculous. People need to step up and be accountable.
K
March 28th, 2012
12:39 pm
The Problem with zimmeran is that even after he was told not to pursue he did anyways…which lead to a confrontation where someone got killed….yes he needs to pay for his actions….even if its not consider criminal…I hope the family sues him for everything he has
Camille
March 28th, 2012
12:59 pm
I truly hate to continue this off-topic conversation, but:
What does Trayvon being on suspension from school have to do with this particular situation? What does his having been suspended two other times have to do with this particular situation? Does any of that mean that he is not entitled to have gone to the store that night? Does any of that mean that he was not allowed to be walking through a neighborhood where his father lived?
The fact of the matter is that Zimmerman was following a teenager, at night, who was not doing anything. Oh, except for looking suspicious. He was following him in his vehicle, and then got out of his vehicle to follow him on foot, even after being asked not to do that. It is Zimmerman’s actions that instigated this entire confrontation. At no time was Martin under any obligation to answer why he was there or what he was doing to Zimmerman. It’s not a matter of having manners. My own son is 14 years old and 6′4″ (but very thin). I have preached to him, even before this, that if anyone is suspiciously following him, he is to run as fast as he can to somewhere safe. I would rather have my son arrive home safe, than to use the manners that I have instilled in him to stop and respond to some stranger and risk being hurt or kidnapped.
The race issue aside, some of you are so wrong in your perceptions on things “should” have gone.
The lesson should be quite obvious...
March 28th, 2012
12:59 pm
Pulling the ads is a shrewd move. Some of you are acting like you don’t recall the sensitive consideration exercised when sitations of national interest arose in times past. Remember the movie “Shooter” that had its nationwide release the exact same day that the Va Tech shooter went on a rampage? Nobody went to see the movie– except for me, and it was a great flick!
About Zimmerman, if he had stayed in his vehicle instead of trying to play ROBOCOP, he wouldn’t be dealing with what he’s now got on his plate. A “WATCH” is for the EYES…
zoe
March 28th, 2012
1:04 pm
A troubled and not so innocent teenager brakes a watchman’s nose and bashes his face in, and gets shot in return. Nasty business all around. However, for so many misinformed people to go on an anti Zimmerman rampage is uncalled for. Did all of you protesters actually read the newspaper?
mark
March 28th, 2012
1:15 pm
Have you even heard the 911 call Chris? Zimmerman says the kid “looks weird” and then chases him despite the operator telling him not to. Nothing would have happened if Zimmerman hadn’t chased him. Who cares if the kid started fighting back against a large man chasing him at night. I would! Good for Treyvon if he got a punch in and slammed his head into the ground. Treyvon probably thought he was being robbed! Why wouldn’t he fight back?? Chris you are an utter fool and absolutely a racist country bumpkin. And you call yourself a Christian. What a joke. WWJD, a-hole?
Don't be a fool!
March 28th, 2012
1:17 pm
If you agressively pursue someone who is minding their own business, you get what you ask for. Unless you are an OFFICER of the LAW with a BADGE and a UNIFORM, you have NO RIGHT to demand word or deed from ANYONE in a PUBLIC place.
mark
March 28th, 2012
1:18 pm
Jesus would have obviously chased the kid during the night for no reason (well, he looked “weird”) then would have initiated a fight against the authorities command and subsequently would have shot and killed the boy. Use your head, redneck.
Time to Get REAL People
March 28th, 2012
1:19 pm
Any segment of the population that shuns traditional family values (no father in the home, women having children by multiple fathers)shuns higher education, is going to continue to meet with hardship in this society. Until that segment of the population realizes that they are the source of their own discontent, they will continue to live it day after day, generation after generation. Looking for someone to blame? Look in the mirror. This is America, you make your own destiny. Quit blaming your problems on racism.
Chris
March 28th, 2012
1:24 pm
Mark –
I’m not a country bumpkin, racist or a redneck. No, I’m not white either. Guess again.
By the way, in the call, he said “looks suspicious,” not “weird.” The operator also said “we don’t need you to do that,” not “don’t do it.”
Really
March 28th, 2012
1:36 pm
Yes racism still exists in America….because some African Americans or other minorities have done great things doesn’t mean it no longer exists. Just because criminals have something (i.e. guns) doesn’t mean every citizen should, criminals have fully automatic weapons so shame on the government for not letting us have fully automatic weapons…..there are countries were guns are not allowed to be owned by citizens and they are not crumbling. Whether or not who through the first punch, Treyvon was stalked and pursued…i don’t care how many people robbed the neighborhood you can’t assume everyone is a criminal if they fit that profile….it’s illegal. Hoodies aren’t illegal, his school issues are not relevant….he wasn’t walking around with a sign on his neck….it was a Sunday evening, there is no school…and it was not late at night since it was half-time of the NBA All-Star game. This is what happens when so called “red-blood” Americans try to take justice into their own hands not thinking about the fact all actions have consequences.
Really
March 28th, 2012
1:43 pm
And now back to the point of the post….yes it was sensitive for them to pull the ad….it is back to the core of what American Values should be….start thinking about others and stop thinking about self so much….good for them…they will still make money off of the film…the advertisements will still come…
Hillbilly Joe
March 28th, 2012
1:46 pm
Where are the leaders of the black community? Why are they fanning flames with stupid tricks like the hoodie protests rather than letting the Grand Jury sort this out?
Seriously. Useful idiots being used by the White House to drum this fake agenda up against republicans that we “hate” women and are all racists. What’s next? Store owner mows down a bunch of teens in the middle of a flashrob and is called a racist, even though he is Pakistani?
Shan
March 28th, 2012
1:50 pm
Let’s pull ads from all movies since blind people can’t see them.
Andy Young
March 28th, 2012
1:51 pm
Hey SAWB, you just pipe down. You are making too much sense. Jesse & Rev. Al are just trying to get paid.
Hmmmmmm
March 28th, 2012
1:59 pm
To al the legal gun toting poster on this blog-Why do you carry/own a gun? The answer to this question is my guess TO PROTECT yourself. So, if you where being followed/questioned on a dark street, how would you respond? My guess, Mr/Mrs constitution only applies to me zealot, is that you would not respond because nothing says that YOU have to answer. (only suspicious hoodie wearing black kids have to) Now back to our scenario Mr/Mrs zealot, let’s say this person becomes aggressive towards you while you are toting your gun do you shoot them or politely ask them to leave you alone? (after all you are carrying your gun for protection)
That kid didn’t have a gun and someone he didn’t know became aggressive towards him and he may or may not have defended himself with the only thing he had his two fist. He was after all placed into the classic fight or flight paradigm through no choice of his own. Trayvon Martin was a victim of RACIAL profiling which is a simple concept ALL black people are about to, currently doing, or just finsihed doing something illegal and therefore their mere presence should be questioned. This is a dynamic that other races DO NOT experience on a daily basis and you all CANNOT relate to the process.
carla roqs
March 28th, 2012
1:59 pm
if there are other worlds…and more advanced races…imagine the reactions…of any visitors…to our sad, sad planet.
DW
March 28th, 2012
2:02 pm
Trayvon was murdered in cold blood. Period. Just to be clear:
1) We do NOT live in a post racial society and most African Americans are very aware of that. Despite having an African American President, despite Oprah’s success, there is still wide spread and blatant racism in this country.
2) Any person of ANY ethnic groups should be able to walk through ANY neighborhood, even in a hooded sweatshirt and not get murdered by some want to be cop.
3) Any person of ANY ethnic groups has a right to expect that when a crime has been committed that the police department will do their job despite their race.
4) Any person of ANY ethnic groups is under NO obligation to be questioned by a non-authority figure (a neighborhood watch captain is NOT an authority figure).
5) A victim’s past that is 100% unrelated to what caused them to be a victim is irrelevant and any attempt to link the two is nothing more than victimizing the victim.
I'll Axe You 1 Question
March 28th, 2012
2:05 pm
You haters need some Herman Cain.
Glen
March 28th, 2012
2:09 pm
This is a really stupid move borne of fearmongering. It’s a shame the hoarde of Trayvon supporters who have turned to rioting made this move necessary, especially as the mounting evidence is that Zimmerman had given up pursuit and was returning to his vehicle when Trayvon ambushed him. I wonder if the marching zombies will apologize when the evidence supports Zimmerman.
ideas
March 28th, 2012
2:12 pm
mark, you are the biggst racist on this blog. You use the word redneck just like a racist would use the N word. Look inward, you have a problem. I also want to know how people on this string think Zimmerman kept following him. The only eyewitness says he was walking the other way when the 6 foot kid jumped him. Zimmerman was from Peru, why would that not also be a minority. Come on people this was just person against person. All you quit thinking racism had anything to do with this. Just because brother Al and Jesse want to stir up things so they can get more donations. I use that word instead of blackmail, which both are guilty of.
dee
March 28th, 2012
2:31 pm
Are you kidding me???
Lynne
March 28th, 2012
2:44 pm
Ahh, the stormfronters are out today huh? Couldn’t resist.
GaPeachy
March 28th, 2012
3:11 pm
I am nearly in tears right now. WE ARE ALL GOING TO HELL FOR THE WAY WE TREAT IT OTHER! THIS IS SAD!
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
- BEFORE HE WAS SHOT. THIS IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER DUKE LACROSS CASE. Sad the kid was shot, but stuff happens when you are out that late, and in the dark. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO HAS A GUN. The kid just made a mistake and paid for it with his LIFE. WHY DO BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE TO PLAY THE RACE CARD.
You mention “Duke LaCrosse” – That forces me to bring up Susan Smith. While I’m at it, I think I’ll bring up Ashley Todd (McCain Staffer who claimed a “dark skinned black male marked her face with a “B”). Let me see if I can find at least one more…………….hmmmm……….how Charles Stuart? His claim of a “large, dark skinned black male who killed his pregnant wife, garnered dozens of Due Process infractions, illegal searches AND a few lawsuits, (won by some of those unlawfully detained and harassed blacks). I can keep on if you want, but I think you get the gist of my post. Or maybe not. You could be just that dense, who knows?
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:14 pm
This next comment was submitted by one poster and emphasized by another — I wish to address both:
“I find it difficult to believe that anyone can claim racism in modern day America.”
Yes, a very good point, but keep in mind “racism” has become the excuse for everything. So, since racism is no longer a major issue people have to take more personal responsibility and they don’t want to do that.
I find it odd that neither of you have heard of such groups like the Skin Heads, The Neo Nazis (different from the Skin Heads), The New Black Panther Party, and the KKK; just to name a few. As a matter of fact, I find I’m flabbergasted with disbelief that you could even “write” something like that (and the other person post and AGREE to it), without falling out in fits of uncontrollable laughter.
You guys must have a stronger stomach than I do.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
A troubled and not so innocent teenager brakes a watchman’s nose and bashes his face in, and gets shot in return. Nasty business all around. However, for so many misinformed people to go on an anti Zimmerman rampage is uncalled for. Did all of you protesters actually read the newspaper?
A violent and not so innocent man, stalks a young man for WALKING in his neighborhood, confronts the frightened young man, gets into a confrontation and when he finds out that he’s loosing the confrontation KILLS the young man and calls it self defense. Did all of you “sympathizers” actually READ the newspapers?
Any segment of the population that shuns traditional family values (no father in the home, women having children by multiple fathers)shuns higher education, is going to continue to meet with hardship in this society
Truth, – I feel the same way about all those meth heads in the trailer park. Thanks bud for “keeping it truthful”
Walt
March 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
Zimmerman had a broken nose, a split lip and lacerations on the back of his head. I think it safe to say that Martin inflicted those injuries before he was shot because everything seems to indicate that he was immediately incapacitated once he was shot.
No, I don’t know if Martin knew that Zimmerman had a gun. The crcumstances seem to indicate that he didn’t know that Zimmerman had a weapon right up until he was shot. Really, a person would be pretty stupid to break someone’s nose while that person was holding a firearm. And we know that a pistol was in fact produced by Zimmerman. Zimmerman, for his part, would not likely say or think, “Hey this guy just broke my nose, maybe if I give him my hand gun, he’ll settle down.”
Some might not like it, but Zimmerman had a legal right to carry a hand gun. He obviously needed it, because his life was in serious danger. Did he put himself in that situation by acting foolishly? Yes. Did just following Martin through the neighborhood justify Martin in throwing punches and assaulting Zimmerman?
In point of fact, this is a textbook case of when a regular John Q. Citizen -needs- a hand gun. “Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.” And that is exactly where Zimmerman was headed until he pulled that pistol and shot Martin.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
A troubled and not so innocent teenager brakes a watchman’s nose and bashes his face in, and gets shot in return. Nasty business all around. However, for so many misinformed people to go on an anti Zimmerman rampage is uncalled for. Did all of you protesters actually read the newspaper?
A violent and not so innocent man, stalks a young man for WALKING in his neighborhood, confronts the frightened young man, gets into a confrontation and when he finds out that he’s loosing the confrontation KILLS the young man and calls it self defense. Did all of you “sympathizers” actually READ the newspapers?
Any segment of the population that shuns traditional family values (no father in the home, women having children by multiple fathers)shuns higher education, is going to continue to meet with hardship in this society
Truth, – I feel the same way about all those meth heads in the trailer park. Thanks bud for “keeping it truthful”
mark
March 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
ideas:
“I also want to know how people on this string think Zimmerman kept following him.”
People think this because on the 911 call, Zimmerman is in his car, then gets out of his car and you can hear him breathing heavy and a shuffling noise. The operator asks “are you following him” and Zimmerman says “yes” and the operator says “we don’t need you to do that”.
How is “redneck” a racist word? It describes an ignorant, racist person of any race in my opinion.
And for the record, people from Peru or anywhere else are allowed to be racist. It doesn’t matter that he is also a minority. White people are not the only people that are racist. Being Peruvian doesn’t preclude him from being racist against other minorities.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:25 pm
I also want to know how people on this string think Zimmerman kept following him. The only eyewitness says he was walking the other way when the 6 foot kid jumped him. Zimmerman was from Peru, why would that not also be a minority. Come on people this was just person against person. All you quit thinking racism had anything to do with this
Ahhhh another person with a “reading comprehension” problem. Graduated from Georgia Public Schools huh? Anywhoooo……
Zimmerman was an AMERICAN graduated from school in AMERICA; just a good ole boy from Sanford.. Also even if he WAS from Peru, does that mean he’s less likely to be bigoted? How………..ummmm…………silly. Also the only account of who was following whom came from, guess who…..Zimmerman!! That’s right the SHOOTER!!! The other “witness” is dead.
The kid may have been six feet tall but he weighed 100 lbs less than Zimmerman. Have you ever noticed that in Professional Boxing a person who’s say……6 feet tall and weighs 180 llbs doesn’t fight a person who’s 6 Feet tall and weighs 280 pounds? Ever wonder WHY?
I’ll give you some time to think that through. Since you’re a Georgia HS Grad and all………..
WheatiesBoy
March 28th, 2012
3:27 pm
My issue with this is Obama has clearly chosen a side when he proclaimed if he had a son he would be like Trayvon. Where was his outrage, and for that matter, everyone’s outrage wen two black males killed the UNC white female? I never saw her parents invited to the White House for a summit on race relations. And furthermore, isn’t everyone entitled to their civil rights. Where was Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when her attackers were brought in? What if the KKK had put a bounty on these two males to be brought in just like the NBPP? Sharpton and Jackson would be screaming from the rooftops and demanding a DOJ investigation into the Klan. Racism works both ways. Only difference is if white people speak up, it’s racist. If black people speak up, they’re defending their rights.
Broken and sad
March 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Some people have been blaming and being disrespectful for 4 years now
stop the bull and the racial hate . This is a product of what happens when
raciam take a front seat. It dosen’t matter if the kid had a past, now Close your eyes and think of this child being white stop the blam. it it go. We will never know what this child would have become
PRAY FOR HIS FAMILY AND YOURS.
Broken and sad
March 28th, 2012
3:36 pm
WheatiesBoy Black people have always been treated with direspect by white folk and nothing was done no law to protect them if they spoke up for themselves they were beaten and hung finally some justice and still its not fair for all. Stop blaming the president for everything because of the color of his skin I am sick of it do you hear sick of it.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:36 pm
Any segment of the population that shuns traditional family values (no father in the home, women having children by multiple fathers)shuns higher education, is going to continue to meet with hardship in this society
Truth, – I feel the same way about all those meth heads in the trailer park. Thanks bud for “keeping it truthful”
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
My issue with this is Obama has clearly chosen a side when he proclaimed if he had a son he would be like Trayvon
Obama spoke out; so did Gingrich, The Fla. Governor, Santorum, Jeb Bush, and Mitt Romney; the only difference is that in your mind Obama has “chosen a side”. Whatever that means.
Maybe you’re right, unless Calista and the other political wives were fooling around BIG TIME there’s no way any of their kids would look like Trayvon. If any did, expect LOTS of divorces.
Cammi317
March 28th, 2012
3:44 pm
Chris, as I have been busy working, I am just seeing your response. I never said that Zimmerman was not licensed to carry his weapon nor did I mention racism. I simply said that had he heeded the advice of the operator and not pursued Martin, he would not need PTSD treatment and a young man would not be dead. Also, I have not read anywhere that Zimmerman was wearing a hat, badge or anything else that identified him as on duty for neighborhood watch. What would you have done if a stranger with no obvious authoritative identification approached you at night with a gun after following you for some time?
TruthSeeker
March 28th, 2012
3:49 pm
I am amazed at the number of people who have so little faith in the US Justice system that they feel the need to convict both individuals in this case via the Court of Public Opinion instead of sitting back, let all the facts get analyzed and letting the result be what it will be. If most of you spent half the time and energy doing what you should be doing instead of ranting and calling each other names, this country might not be in the uncontrollable downward spiral that it is currently in.
Oh, and @Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence), for someone who throws the “reading comprehension” thing around as much as you do, you may want to invest in a Dictionary (or at least spell-check), before you spout out at the fingers. The word is “begets”, which means “to cause; produce and effect”; not “begats”, which means absolutely nothing.
Always will love him
March 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
If Trayvon Martin had killed Zimmerman would he be in jail—-NO DOUBT!
mark
March 28th, 2012
4:00 pm
@TruthSeeker: Can we say…. Casey Anthony? ….OJ? The justice system isn’t always correct (in fact it’s quite biased in practice) and the 911 call speaks for itself. The cops were clearly wrong in not arresting Zimmerman at the scene and doing some real police work to find out what happened. And it doesn’t take a detective to figure that out after listening to the 911 call. If everyone just “has faith” in the justice system, a lot of innocent people would be jailed or executed. It’s good that we have people that actually question authority and push for justice to actually be carried out. People like you that never want to question authority are the true problem.
Chris Needs More Jesus & Less Guns & Violence (Which Begats Violence)
March 28th, 2012
4:05 pm
You can always tell the ones who use their bibles (if they have one) as door stops. Truth, please read below: Oh and I’m going to add my “Duh!” here in case you decide to skip the definition:
begat
(archaic) Simple past of beget.
1611, King James Version of the Bible (Authorized Version)[1], Genesis 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
1611, King James Version of the Bible (Authorized Version)[2], Matthew 1:2
Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren
[edit] Nounbegat (plural begats)
(nonstandard) An element of a lineage, especially of a lineage given in the Bible
2000, Earl F. Lehman, The God Bu$ine$$, page 59:
To put food on the table, Ruth gleaned in the fields and one of the fields belonged to Boaz who noticed her and admired her. They married and Ruth bore a son, Obed. There ensues a begat-ridden genealogy and….
2002, P. J. O’Rourke, The CEO of the Sofa, page 146:
There’s a bunch of begats in First Chronicles, chapter six, and it’s way dull, especially if you consider what a begat involves.
2002, Geoffrey H. Hartman; Dr. Geoffrey Hartman, The longest shadow: in the aftermath of the Holocaust, page 108:
In many instances even that cannot be done,” and John Edgar Wideman prefaces Damballah with “A Begat Chart” and a “Family Tree.
Stage Three Pancreatic Cancer
March 28th, 2012
4:05 pm
If Jesus Christ were walking through my neighborhood, I’d be like “hey you long-haired swarthy punk, where do you think you’re going?”
And then I’d follow him and continue to harass him and I’d pick a fight with him. Then when he finally scuffled with me I’d pull out a gun and shoot him. Then I’d watch him die and not try to help him. And I’d say I shot him in self defense.
mark
March 28th, 2012
4:08 pm
When did this become a grammar war? Who cares?
Who cares
March 28th, 2012
4:09 pm
No matter how much this board discusses the Florida case the reality is no one is living in the shoes of either party…a kid who died and a man whose life is in chaos and both families forever changed. You can debate it any way you want but your lives are the same today as they were yesterday.
don’t know why any of you are judging it.. The families don’t know you and don’t care what you think. Get out of high school, grow up and focus on your OWN lives!
mark
March 28th, 2012
4:25 pm
@Who cares: I guess ignorance is bliss for you. Do you not watch the news or care about the world around you?
irishmafia
March 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
PC gone amuck
irishmafia
March 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
Two words –Duke Lacrosee
Slippery slope
March 28th, 2012
5:21 pm
As far as I can tell, race was never an issue until the media and those who would benefit from that slant promoted it. Listening to people like Mark playing the race card only serves to feed the stereotype that too many people view things through a biased lens and can’t help but play the victim. Which means that crying wolf and making everything a race issue numbs normally objective people to real issues of racism (which exists in several directions). As soon as Sharpton and Jesse Jackson start holding rallies and a Congressman from Illinois wear hoodies in the House of Representatives, it’s clearly gone beyond the facts and becoming a political football. A black teenager was shot and killed two days ago in Atlanta by two security guards and nobody noticed. The security guards were also black, but I digress…
Clearly Zimmerman should’ve been arrested, but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty and Martin was clearly not a saint either. I think Obama should’ve stayed out of it and I voted for him and probably will again in November.
Willydoit?
March 28th, 2012
5:24 pm
“I find it odd that neither of you have heard of such groups like the Skin Heads, The Neo Nazis (different from the Skin Heads), The New Black Panther Party, and the KKK; just to name a few.”
These groups are still around?? They are all irrelevant in America today!
To the poster who said...
March 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
“Zimmerman had given up the chase and had gone back to his car.”
And exactly how was the pursue-ee supposed to know that? Did Zimmerman say, “Oh, I’m sorry, I see that you are putting a key in the front door. My apologies for chasing you down. I’ll go back to my car now and go home.”
Give me a frickin’ break! Even when an animal is cornered, it is prone to attack at ANY time. The animal won’t care if you turned away to go get it some Kibbles n’ Bits or not!!
Let’s not be so dense, people!