This guy is a tool. Why would anyone NOT want a law enforced? It is called ILLEGAL immigration for a reason. By the way Jennifer, thank you VERY MUCH for using the proper description here. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Amazing the number of stories on this and it is labeled “anti immigration law”. Wrong! No problem here with someone immigrating LEGALLY. How do you think most of our familes got here?!!? Geez people, just follow the law. It ain’t that hard!

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The bill is a really bad bill because it only serves to make Deal sound tough on illegal aliens when it really does nothing but increase spending to the care and support of illegal aliens.

Under the bill, workers caught using fake credentials can get up to 15 years of jail time and up to $250K in fines. So, we take a person out of the workforce and give him room and board for 15 years AND expect him to pay a quarter million bucks. If he had that much money, do you think he’d be here in the first place?

In our jails these illegal aliens get free education, job training, health care, food, and so on – all out our expense… for up to 15 years!

Sure this bill won’t make illegal aliens or immigrant advocates happy, but it doesn’t do anything to save our state money or deter illegal aliens from coming here to work either.

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We live in a country that everyone in the world wants to come to and live. Why don’t we just open up our borders and let everyone in, that sounds like a really great idea

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To hell with Carlos Santana. I was fully expecting Jesse Jackson to make an a$$ of himself, but Carlos gets this one hands down.

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Carlos – isnt it about time to go record an album full of duets with Top-40 artists in order to be relevant again?

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No wonder Carlos plays an instrument – rather than sings. When he opens his mouth he sounds stupid.

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Who cares what some greasy washed-up has-been would-be entertainer thinks about anything? It’s not his tax money that goes to support the illegal freeloaders.

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First off, David & SP I guess your answer is open borders since the Pilgrims landed illegally. That is a typical liberal answer. Don’t fix the problem, blame the European Caucasions instead. Here is how you fix it. Make them all legal, get them social security numbers, start taxing there pay like everyone else and punsih those business’s that continue to hire illegals. Just think how much our tax revenue would increase in one year. The liberal stance is to do nothing so it brings in more dem supporters. Hell, they won’t even enforce the Federal Law as it is today.
Oh and for Santana, who really cares what actors, musicians or any other leftist artist has to say? They do not live in reality as it is. I give you Charlie Sheen.

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Piss off Carlos

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No wonder ppl around the world still of this country as a joke.

I never see a Latino on the street corner begging for money. They actually want to work for it

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Amazing we invite some musician to ATL for an award and he insults Georgians. Guy has a lot of nerve

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First of all, is Carlos Santana legal? I kind of figured him to be about as legal as Cheech & Chong! Second, we need to fix out welfare & unemployment systems, & quit giving free taxapayer money to citizens that are too lazy or proud to get out & find work in this economy!

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illegals immigrants do PAY for taxes. Their employers are required to take out federal taxes from their paycheck. Heck most of them are getting social security taken from their check and they will never see a dime of it back. oh and they do pay sales taxes.

This is just a Republican ploy to divert blame for their bad decision making.

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Here’s the deal….either get “Legal” or get “Gone”!

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Do REAL/LEGAL Americans realize strict immigration laws are in other countries? They don’t care about your feelings, it’s the law. If you don’t have the proper documents you’re outta there… PERIOD.

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Wow… Deport all illegals. See what happens when Apples in ellijay are rotting on trees cause we as lazy americans would rather sit on our @$$es in welfare. Same goes for the chicken plants andall the labor jobs we WONT take.

Wait till food goes up cause we are too lazy to pick crops. FIX the problem. If they are here and have no cartel ties let them stay for a price. No welfare, no schools or medicare UNLESS you pay taxes.

REMEMBER we are ALL immigrants… and I am a white guy from Pickens County BTW.

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I do agree with what he said but it may not have been the right venue. No one on here except if you are Native American should say anything about we need to close our borders. Why? Because all of our families are either willfull immigrants or brought here through slavery. The people we elected are going to sit and spend millions of dollars fighting a lawsuit with the government because what the Governor signed into law will be blocked just like Arizona law. I am for reform but it needs to be fair all the way around. We give 200,000 visas per year to migrant workers from Mexico but only 100 to Jamaicans- that is just an example there is something wrong with this picture. Let’s be real you arent going to be able to send 11 million people back in this day and age unless you go door to door and that would be a waste of time and money.
There are 11 million undocumented people here in America give them a path to citizenship-
1. Learn to speak English
2. Pay a fine
3. Pay back taxes
If they arent able to pay the money – have them serve 4 years in the military.

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truth…..Open your eyes. They are begging every day. They beg that we don’t enforce our laws…they beg that we pay their health care when walk out on bills in the emergency room. they beg we don’t shoot them when they cross the border illegally. They beg we let them work and not pay taxes.

I am now begging……..enforce our laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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William,

They do pay taxes.

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I said it last night and I will say it again. Carlos Santana can kiss my legal ass and go straight to hell!!!!

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Mexico and other Latin American countries need a dictator or war so the US can grant them asylum like the cubans and Bosnians

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What less would you expect from a former heroin addict that called himself ‘Devadip’ all through the ’70s?

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It is pretty stinkin’ simple…
Carlos, shut up and play the guitar!

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@David@10:36: Right on Brother!!!!

Overall, We ARE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS when you look at American History… Stop with the two-face mentality and understand that this country was built on immigrants ( illegal and slaves)…. if people are fortunate to get over the fences and get into this country, then it should be equal ground as long as they abide by the laws of the land. P.S. And for all those angry at Santana, there is something called ” Freedom of Speech”, as Americans’ we are granted this right, he was just expressing his opinion on the matter.

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To think this bill is strictly about work is ludicrous! Along with the ILLEGALS working, they get FREE education, FREE medical, FREE dental and FREE Government assistance on anything else. The rest of us have to PAY for education, PAY for medical, PAY for dental, PAY for any assistance on anything else. It’s not about just working, it’s about sucking a system dry financially with no regard, concern or consideration for PAYING your fare share!

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If the illegal immigrant population put in half the effort at reforming the governments and improving life in their home countries as they do here, we’d be the ones migrating.

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Perhaps we should all refuse to buy his new album… oh right, no one bought it anyway.

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Truth, you still didn’t answer my question. Some does not equal all. We all know there are some people just looking for handouts and do not have any intentions on trying to find a job as long as someone is just giving them money. I’m talking about taxpaying citizens looking for work who have been unable to find a job. These citizens should be allowed unemployment benefits.

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Somewhere Schoolhouse Rock is crying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32l3sTFRFX8

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a$$play

The people that came here fought wars and kicked ass to stay here. They didn’t come here to freeload like these animals that cross the borders now. Again, lets use the same enforecement laws that Mexico uses. What is wrong with that?

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Sick of hearing press 1 for Spanish? Move to Mexico.

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Just Awful,

I live in the Alpharetta/Roswell area, there are plenty of jobs. These unemployed taxplayers are ashamed to get a low paying job because of their degree.

If people WANT to work there is a job. It might not be what you studied for.

Anyways I find it sad, that AMERICANS have every oppountity to become successful in this country. and then they dont they blame other people.

Anyways how are illegals taking your job? Are you telling me that you went to HS and college and cant get a decent paying job? Instead of partying, drinking, and doing drugs, you should have paid attention in class. How do you have a college degree and competing against illegals for a job?

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Please, Gary, enlighten us as to how they are being provided free medical care.

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Key word is illegal.

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Carlos needs to head home and work on improving Mexico, so his countryman desire to live there. He should take his millions earned in the USA and run for office. He should work to change their immigration laws, so that millions of Guatamalans can break in.

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Legal Immigration = good
Illegal Immegration = bad
Has nothing to do with whatever race/gender/sexual orientation/etc.
Oh, and btw, STFU Carlos. What do you know?

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I wonder if Carlos would be so outraged if our immigration problem was Canadian or Chinese?

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Truth is we need illegal immigrants. If we get rid of them prices of products and services will go up and we’ll end up importing every single onion fron China. Illegal immigrants contribute to the economy and have done it for decades.
@ Rhonda Steele would your grandaughter and neighbor clean houses for 6-10 dollars an hour and work on the weekends? I doubt it!!

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So it’s un-American to enforce this nation’s immigration laws? Interesting. This country is being invaded from the south and it needs to stop now!

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BREAKING NEWS >>>FEDERAL GOVT DECLARES GA HB87 UNCONSTITUTIONAL……IDIOTS..

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Had I wanted to hear form a rear end, I would have broken wind.

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If anything, Santana and legal immigrants should be the ones upset by the sheer nature that they had to go the process and difficulty of obtaining legal status while their POS kinsmen skirt the law to reside illegally.

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I think the bigger issue here is that this happened in a paid-public venue, where local kids’ baseball teams were in attendance. As a parent of one of the children in attendance, I didn’t appreciate this Civil Rights Game being used as a political tool by an “entertainer.” I didn’t pay to hear his, or anyone’s political viewpoint. I will never again attend this particular game at Turner Field.

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Mr. Santana, I represent the majority of the people of the USA. You should be ashamed of yourself! Oh, by the way, nobody with half a brain and any common sense and logic really gives a “ratsrump” what you think anyway.

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Wow talk about being racists you hate Carlos S., this sounds like you hate hispanics, all hating words. Is there another Martin Luther King Jr out there, seems like hispanics are being judged for thier race and color

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LETS PASS ILLEGAL LAWS TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION…..TYPICAL GA ASS BACKWARD …LOSERS>>>>

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@Truth – Now you are running your mouth and don’t know what you are talking about. I have been fully employed and have never been laid off. I am talking about people who are looking for work but cannot find it. Even the lower paying jobs, regardless if they have a degree or not. You need to get out of your fantasy world and wake up. Yes, there are some businesses still hiring illegal workers over U.S. citizens that have degrees. They can pay them under the table and do not have to offer them benefits. I’m telling you what I know for a fact. IDIOT!!!

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He spoke the truth. Could have said it better. Remember Sunday was “Civil Rights Day” at Turner Field. MLK would have been on Santana’s side.

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I welcome diversity, but believe those that would like to immigrate to the U.S. should do so in a legal manner. In a perfect world it would be great to have no borders, but this wouldn’t work in reality. The U.S. is the greatest country in the world and this is why people risk their lives to get here. Can you imagine the stampede if the borders were completely open? We already have overcrowded schools, overcrowded hospitals and not enough doctors to handle the current population. U.S. cities are having to raise taxes and cut services. I agree that they should do a better job of managing their budget, but we would be remissed if we didn’t at least consider the strain that illegal immigrants are putting on schools and hospitals? Most are hard working, good people, but do not pay taxes. We cannot continue to keep pace with this type of growth and I support HB 87.

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Carlos Santana, go away and be stupid elsewhere. I am proud of my state for being willing to stand up and address a problem that any clear thinking American can see. We are fine with immigrants…LEGAL…immigrants. I have not one speck of shame for expecting immigrants to obey our laws. Come here legally or stay the hell away.

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@Lynn, if they won’t immigrate legally completing paperwork, what makes us think they will learn English, pay a fine, etc. They will get everything they want without adhering to any guidelines our government puts forth.

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Who really cares what this guy thinks? It’s just a 1st step in taking care of our own 1st.
We can no longer put the rest of the world ahead of our own people.
Really, what part of ILLEGAL do they not understand?
There is no such thing as FREE Lunch. Somebody has to pay.
It is time to stop all of this insanity and protect the future for our children and grandchildren.
GA Law needs to put LEGAL, TAXPAYING Georgians 1st!
Hispanics are just a tip of the iceberg. We better get concerned about all of those Illegal (and Legal) Jihadists that are here!

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Georgia is full of racist hatred all around, and any chance they get to cast aside a minority they are going to do it. This is a state where President Obama only lost by 200,000 votes, so there is obviously a liberal force in the area. This law is illegal. If you want to throw the term illegal into this conversation. NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL.

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Agree Gary, guess Santana’s “land of the Free” means something different, not becoming a citizen of The US, and Georgia, and having everything paid for. I would love to be “illegal” too if I got all these services and products free. Don’t understand why all these people keep saying we are all illegal, not hardly. Yes, history reads that the US became the US through immigration, but by now, if you are citizen of this country, the correct steps have either been taken to become citizens or were naturally born here. Why does that make everyone illegal? If a person comes here takes the right steps to citizenship, and provides for their fair share without expecting handouts, what is wrong with that, and why is that against “human rights” according to Santana. Isn’t it against my human rights to pay for myself and family as well as paying for others who are living here illegally, who expects it this way, and doesn’t do anything to change their status. I would be marching around with signs too, if I thought all my free “stuff” was going to be taken away. Isn’t that imposing on my rights? It is like being wrong if I don’t pick up the guy wanting a free ride on the side of the road. He/she has rights to do that and expect that ride, but if I don’t give it to him, by choice, free of charge, I am imposing on their “human rights,” even if they have broken out of prison, and are trying to hitch a ride, “illegally.” Guess that doesn’t matter, oh yeah, I forgot, people who work hard, uphold the laws, and pay their part, are just too conservative and wrong. Guess that makes me an idiot, who just doesn’t get it. I do know what free is, and what it is not, and I don’t get free things, but these people do, and are not here as US citizens or even trying to become one.

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It is a sad state of affairs in our country of” LAWS” the necessity to defend the rule of law and order! Apparently, some in our nation wish to obey only the laws that suit their individual needs! Either we are a nation of LAWS or a nation of of the chaos. I think the “Atlanta Braves” should comment ! The citizens and Braves fans will be watching!!

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David: All of us did not come here as “illegal immigrants.” Before there was a law, legality was not an issue. Once there was a law, most followed procedures. Just get the laws repealed if you don’t like the laws.
Maybe Santanas will not come back to Ga.!

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If illegals get free benefits then why arn’t the homeless selling roses instead of holding a sign that says I WORK FOR FOOD, what is wrong with this picture, talk about taking advantage, go to work isn’t that why you got a social number, so you can get a job, then give this number to the people that are working in the feilds tring to work for money not holding a sign.

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I am a life long Georgia resident and I don’t give a rat’s hind end what opinion Santana has of our immigration bill – as far as I am concerned he can crawl back under what ever rock he crawled out from and while he is at it take all the ILLEGAL ALIENS back with him…..I say bring on the ICE agents and enforce the law strictly – Throw them in Jail and then Deport them ALL!!!! We don’t want them and we certainly do not need them!!!!

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And don’t bring up the Indians. They came here too, across the Bering Sea land bridge or on rafts from polynesia. And as for the southwest once belonging to Mexico, we fought a war, they lost.

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Does anyone understand that the problem is not immigration itself? It’s ILLEGAL immigration. I welcome anyone to come here in search for a better life but you need to do it the right way. But also I think we need to make it a heck of alot easier to do that. But as we all know, dealing with the government is never efficient or easy in ANYTHING. I don’t think a Braves game was the proper forum for Santana to express his political opinion. It made him look like a hack!!!! Which celebrities tend to do when it comes to politics. And stop comparing the NOW with the first colonization of this country. This is 2011 people.

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““I represent the human race,” said Santana”

No, he represents washed up drug addicted hippies.

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First of all, all the talk that we are all illegals is just a way for those who have nothing else to say to have something to say.
Illegal is ILLEGAL. Period. No other country in the world puts up with people coming in and taking jobs, whether Americans want those jobs or not is not the point. In Mexico your butt would be thrown in jail if they catch you working and not properly documented.
If you want into this country, apply. Be LEGAL. The last time I looked, this law is only following federal law that is not enforced. I could care less what Santana has to say, or anyone else who is illegal and has no rights in any way shape or form, they are not from the US and should be sent back until they want to be legally here. ALL businesses that employee illegals should be shut down for a year and they wouldn’t continue employing them either.

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I am not sure why Santana’s opinion is newsworthy. But if his views on US immigration policy and Georgia’s laws are of interest to the AJC, perhaps you could get his comments on Mexico’s restrictive immigration laws and that country’s treatment of people from Central America.

One more thing: OF COURSE IT’S RACISM. A racist is anyone who disagrees with a liberal.

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It’s Monday. Look up the Federal Law, it’s the same that is written in Arizona and Georgia and Utah. You know what the problem is, the Fed’s don’t want to act on it, so the states are.

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People in GA are so blind to see what this bill will actually bring to our state. Go look at the NEGATIVE impact in AZ.

I DON’T diasgree with immigration reform BUT allowing a bill that WILL bring RACIAL PROFILING is not a good move for GA!

This is a poorly written LAW and will GOD forgive the racists that TROLL behind a computer.

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My point is you people are missing its intent. Its rhetoric, its unenforcable, and it was never meant to be so. The law isn’t going to lead to a single person being deported because Nathan Deal, while having to pander to the tea party lowest denominator, is a business man and he knows these people keep our economy moving and our corporations costs down.

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Illegals are over burdening our hospitals, our schools, our insurance premiums…. all the taxes that we pay are taking care of them too…..something has to be done….AMERICA TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN FIRST….then and only then are we in shape to help others.

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@David..yeah and look what happened to the natives. As I deal with dual languages on a daily basis, it appears that the immigrants have already overwhelmed the culture.,

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Take that dope smoking s.o.b. back to his original home.Opinions like that have no place at a baseball game to begin with.Santana is as useless as boobs on a man!PLAY BALL,NOT POLITICS!

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HE, CARLOS SANTANA, SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF!!!! IN FACT HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!!! HOW DARE HE TALK LIKE THAT ON AMERICAN SOIL AND PUT DOWN OUR FEW STATES THAT ARE PROTECTING OUR LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS RIGHTS AND COUNTRY WE FIGHT FOR. WE DID NOT ASK THEM TO COME HERE….THEY CAME HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!! DID YOU KNOW MEXICO IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES FOR SOMEONE TO CROSS THEIR BORDER???? SANTANA…..GO BACK TO MEXICO AND TAKE ALL OF YOUR BELOVED ILLEGALS WITH YOU. YOU ARE A TRAITOR, LIKE THE LATINO POLITICIANS, WORKING FOR ILLEGALS AND NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

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Let’s see: Carlos has made millions of dollars off of capitalism and here he is bashing the country in which he illegally entered.

Priceless.

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Carlos and plenty residents and citizens of this state feel the same way. SHAME ON GEORGIA!

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“Go look at the NEGATIVE impact in AZ. ”

You mean kidnappings, murders etc by illegals?

“I DON’T diasgree with immigration reform BUT allowing a bill that WILL bring RACIAL PROFILING is not a good move for GA!”

If you’re legal, you have nothing to worry about.

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WOW,

Carlos made himself a millionaire over hardwork and dedication.

What do you do? Work on a farm supporting your inbreed sisters?

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“Carlos made himself a millionaire over hardwork and dedication.”

Illegally.

“What do you do? Work on a farm supporting your inbreed sisters?”

No, I’m too busy pimping your mom on Piedmont.

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Totally support it. How is checking someone’s immigration status before you hire a horrible thing? I would never go to another country and not expect to pay taxes and receive services and be illegal at the same time. Stop mooching.

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“Work on a farm supporting your inbreed sisters?”

This is what I love about brain dead left wingers. When they proceed to throw out insults, they can’t even get the words right.

It’s INBRED, you moron. Not inbreed.

UGA has a remedial English class with your name on it.

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“There are plenty of ‘natural born” American citizens who overburden our schools and hospitals”

Yep, they’re called welfare baby mamas.

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I cannot fault ANYONE who would do whatever it took to make a better life for their family. What has happened to this country? Why do we heap abuse on this illegal immigrants and treat them with such hatred? What if the tables were turned? I FULLY understand that we need a secure border, we need to reform our immigration policies and enforce many of those already on the books… but to treat these hardworking people with such disdain and speak about them with such vitriol is NOT the American way.

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“Somehow all American’s seem to forget that we came here as Illegal Immigrants.”

Holy hell you’re an idiot. You can’t be illegal if there aren’t laws in place when you arrive.

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and he pays taxes like us? Here? And he believes Americans should let non tax paying people should have free rein? I pay taxes, let them pay taxes and have them same rules I have and no problem. People need to realize it is a mirror of the federal law that is not enforced. if the feds is constuitional then why is this wrong? OBAMA.

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It is of the utmost importance to me what old guitar players think about our state laws.

An irrelevant note: his best work (I listen to it frequently) was completed 35 years ago.

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I’m just not sure what I should be ashamed of? What did I do to you Carlos?

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WOW,

This is a blog

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exactly, WOW. Thats my point we can’t take these jobs away from illegal immigrants when we have such a large segment of the population unwilling to work. The jobs simply wouldn’t get done without them. Why don’t we take more hardworking Latinos and we’ll send our welfare abusing trash to Mexico, seems like a fair compromise.

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@WOW

“You mean kidnappings, murders etc by illegals?”

Where are your facts and data? Back up your claim and if you can’t then do yourself a favor and stop.

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Just like Bruce Springsteen, Carlos Santana is another musician who thinks his political opinion is important because he can make music. In reality he is just another minority who is crying about some issue.

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FEDUP,

Where do most of these drugs end up???

hint: in the suburbs

If not for the demand, there would be no drug trade.

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it is amazing all the misinformation on here. To the ones who are claiming illegals do not costs states millions in hospital, public assitance, etc. You are so wrong.
My family came here from another country however they did it legally. Duh. no brainer, if you let the latin american illegals in, let in everyone, don’t descrimate.

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We should look to Israel’s border enforcement as a model for America.

In addition to immigration laws, which other ones would you “open the borders” crowd not want enforced?

If you can pick a few laws not to enforce, how ’bout me?

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All these folks wanna say this bill is stupid and should not have passed. What these idiots dont understand is the “illegals” are over here not paying taxes, getting free medical treatment, and taking advantage of our welfare system, taking away from the actual Americans who really need it. Now they are getting a free education and are very soon gonna start taking the high paying jobs of the people who are against this bill. When they take ur job too, you are gonna think twice about supporting this bill in the first place.

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HB 87 of GA and SB 1070 of AZ are similar. Racial profiling is at the core of both bills, neither of these bills would function without racial profiling. The AZ bill is on its way to the Suprme Court for review after Judge Bolton of The Ninth District eviscerated the bill.

If more attention and money was spent on streamlining the legal process to citzenship/legal status the current situation with undocumented immigrants would not be much of a issue. The people who risk their lives to come here are coming for economic reasons. Yes, of course crimes have been committed by the illegal immigrants, a greater percentage of that population are hard working people who are economic refugees.

It seems that a smarter way of the state handling HB 87 would be to wait and see what is going to happen with AZ bill in the Supreme Court. No one has ever accused the state legislature of GA of being smart. Now we can lump Deal in with that group.

Carlos you rock!

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“We should look to Israel’s border enforcement as a model for America.”

AMEN!!!!!!!!!

Hey left wingers, if you are in favor of illegals, please invite them to live in your section 8 housing.

Thanks, tax payer.

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JT, I agree with you about downtown and Marta. Let’s deport the welfare momma’s too and their kids attacking working people at 1am.

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I will gladly continue to pay for the illegals that work for a living and rob us “in theory” through taxes than live with and pay for the segment of Americans who live on park benches, contribute nothing, and rob us in practice.

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The guy lives in California and comes over here to tell us how ashamed he is of us. What a crock!!! How’s California doing? Are they bankrupt yet, and I do mean yet!!!??

My stepfather went through the process of becoming a US citizen and he is outraged at the support for ILLEGAL immigrants. Go through the process and do it LEGALLY. It’s funny how nobody complains about the LEGAL ALIENS.

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Deport Santana or pull his work visa. Go somewhere where someone cares, Mr. Dried Up!

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hey carlos?… got your greencard?…

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Useless arguing with racist and uninform people… Wait a couple of years and you’ll see.

See you later trolls…

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and I won’t be attending any more “Santa” concerts at the Hard Rock or anywhere else for that matter – such a shame – I really did like his music – now it will be hit the seek button

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fact is they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS…and another thing is everything these days is press 1 for english press 2 for spanish, or spanish written under all english words. SERIOUSLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO LIVE IN OUR COUNTRY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE AND DONT EXPECT US TO ADAPT TO YOU, YOU ADAPT TO US!!

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My Dearest Carlos,

You have a real talent for playing the guitar and have done well for yourself. However, that does not make you qualified to lecture me as an American citizen and proud Georgia resident. I don’t hate immigrants. I don’t even hate illegal immigrants. However, I do hate the negative impact ILLEGALS have had on my community – they have pushed wages down substantially, they have overburdened our schools, they have overburdened our hospitals, they have forced me to “press 1 for English”,etc.

You sir, do not represent the “human race”. You represent yourself. You are able and free to do that in the USA. However, I’m part of the human race and you don’t represent me.

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If the issue is illegal immigrants costing millions of dollars to hospitals and other public services, then let them being able to purchase health insurance.

If the issue is illegal immigrants driving without a license and no insurance, then let them being able to take the driving exam and get a license and insurance.

If the issue with illegal immigrants is that they came illegally to this country, then let them being able to adjust their status. Let them pay any back-taxes, learn English, pay a penalty fine, make them wait 15 years in order to become citizens (just let them have a work permit to renew every 2 yrs), and on top of deducting SS, Medicaid, Fed and State Taxes, also deduct an change-of-status tax, this would help to pay for anything they have spent on the expense of tax payers.

At the same time, let’s have our military go to the border to stop any illegals or drug come into the country as well as stopping any guns and weapons being smuggled to Mexico and Latin America for the cartels.

Penalize businesses who keep hiring workers without proper documentation. This issue hasn’t being really addressed on HB87.

Deport immediately anyone who is part of a gang or commits crime (not misdemeanors) while being undocumented or on the process to become one.

If we do this everyone on both sides will get part of what they want. Most Illegal/Undocumented immigrants are people who are to make a living to support their families, running away from their country’s unstable economy and violence. We give billions of dollars to our enemies to afford their wars, but we cannot help the people who helps putting the food in our supermarkets.

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I work , I pay taxes and I pay over $120/month for medical insurance. I just had a 15 min procedure done that cost me $300 out of pocket, I found out that if you don’t work and have medicare the procedure is covered 100%. This is why so many Americans are fed up and willing to do whatever it takes to fix the problem.

As far as Carlos I’m sure he means well but I’ve always thought entertainers should be banned from politics.

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According to the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy (itepnet.org), undocumented workers paid billions in state and local taxes last year. Yet American corporations like GE paid NOTHING. So who is really ripping off this nation?

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santana can f*ck off. he doesn’t live here so his opinion means nothing. just another beaner! The arguement that we are all immigrants is weak. News flash people, times change! speaking about the 21’st century, the population & immigration control are real problems. those thta don’t like the law or the majority of our state & country’s opinion CAN GET OUT.

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Replacing Jim Crow laws with Jose Cuervo laws just same old same old. Next up Prisoner Work Details digging onions. Cycle complete, same old same old.

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VERIFY – According to the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy (itepnet.org), undocumented workers paid billions in state and local taxes last year – HOW WOULD THEY KNOW??

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carlos – go lecture n. korea, china, and iran

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Sitting at home and watching this on the TV and it was so unexpected that I laughed at it. I mean, it came out of nowhere! Do I agree with him? Sure. It’s well documented that 2 states tried to push this bill and a federal judge shot it down – more than likely will happen here. Did he do it at the right venue and at the right time? Well.. it was in honor of “civil rights” although I think he could have chose a better venue and time.

I’m honestly not shocked by what he said and it is probably the first of many times that something will be said about the state of GA when it comes to that immigration bill.

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Soneone please send Santana a dictionary and give him an English lesson. He obviously does not know or understand the definition of the word “ILLEGAL.” And please all of you out there saying we are all immigrants, wake up! I am a first generation Italian. In the early1920s my grandparents came here with my mom via the quota system, Ellis Island and a “document” from a relative insuring employment of my grandfather. (No welfare!). DO NOT CALL ME ILLEGAL! We had nothing to do with Indians or slavery. Entended family members came over the next ten years (quota system broke up families,but eventually all were reunited).That was the law. You abide by it! Learn English, Work (w/valid SS#), Pay Taxes and Live the American Dream and become a Proud American Citizen flying the stars &stripes! This pride still exists in our large family today thanks to the example of our wonderful,loving grandparents!…who were not ‘ILLEGAL.’

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Carlos, like so many others keeps confusing the terms “immigrant” and “criminal”. The law doesn’t effect or threaten “immigrants”. The law is designed to identify and deal with the illegal criminal invaders of our nation and stop the drain on our economy.

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Who was doing all this work before the illegals started showing up en masse? Do these idiots actually think that the work was laying around and nobody was doing it? Nobody was cleaning toilets?

Give me a break.

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Go back to Mehico and work on the drug cartel problem before sticking your nose into another country’s problems. Cartels are killing thousands and ruining the lives of countless others. There’s a problem for you to champion Carlos. Work on your own country so they won’t all want to come here.We can’t afford hundreds of thousands of illiegals. What would Mehico do if I were illegal down there? I garauntee you they wouldn’t pay for my kids and give me free anything. If we keep on and don’t address the problem we’ll be as broken as Mexico.

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SEND THEM ALL BACK ! We have too many parasites already!!

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Go Santana, Speak the truth against racism !!!!!

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“Speak the truth against racism ”

What is it with brain dead left wingers and not know what the law states?

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The problem is the employers. To make money, they pay these people below minimum wage, they don’t take out taxes, and don’t pay the Social Security taxes. Then when someone who is a citizen applies for work with them there is no opening. Clamp down on the border and penalize employers who are breaking the law by not paying at least minimum wage and not paying the other taxes they have to pay when they hire citizens. Do this and the illegal immigrants will at least pay taxes, but many will go home because a lot of the jobs will dry up. Gary is exactly right, it is about the sucking sound for a society that is providing so called entitlements for people who are criminals. They break the laws of our country by entering illegally. Try doing that in Mexico. Check out there immigration laws. You will go to prison.

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Maybe we should look at the Mexican government and let them know the USA will not stand for this.

The US Department of Homeland Security and some advocacy groups have criticized a program of the government of the state of Yucatan and that of a federal Mexican agency directed to Mexicans migrating to and residing in the United States. They claim that the assistance includes advice on how to get across the U.S. border illegally, where to find healthcare, enroll their children in public schools, and send money to Mexico. The Mexican federal government also issues identity cards to Mexicans living outside of Mexico.[40][41]

In 2005 the government of Yucatan produced a handbook and DVD about the risks and implications of crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. The guide told immigrants where to find health care, how to get their kids into U.S. schools, and how to send money home. Officials in Yucatan said the guide is a necessity to save lives but some American groups accused the government of encouraging illegal immigration.[42]
In 2005 the Mexican government was criticized for distributing a comic book which offers tips to illegal aliens emigrating to the United States.[43] That comic book recommends to illegal immigrants, once they have safely crossed the border, “Don’t call attention to yourself. … Avoid loud parties. … Don’t become involved in fights.” The Mexican government defends the guide as an attempt to save lives. “It’s kind of like illegal immigration for dummies,” said the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, Mark Krikorian. “Promoting safe illegal immigration is not the same as arguing against it.” The comic book does state on its last page that the Mexican Government does not promote illegal crossing at all and only encourages visits to the U.S. with all required documentation.[43]

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Why don’t ILLEGAL aliens go through the process of becoming a US Citizen? I’ve yet to meet anyone with this answer.

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Kaitlyn

Go to Europe, China, or even Mexico and see how you’re treated without documents.

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“This SHAM will be blocked before MEMORIAL day”

By who?

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“Why don’t ILLEGAL aliens go through the process of becoming a US Citizen? ”

Because they’d have to pay taxes and learn English.

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The US took have of mexicos land ,now they don’t like mexicans…losers…….

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Santana is an idiot. It is NOT Anti-American. It IS Anti-ILLEGAL!

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Now remind me, why did we have this nimrod here giving him an award and who decided to do that. Was it because he can play the guitar good? A lot of people can do that. Stick to playing the guitar Carlos. No one cares what you have to say.

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are you people serious? F! carlos santanna! tell him to pay to make all illegals legal and we wont have to be so F’n ashamed! man F! U! hell he might be illegal somebody needs to check his a$$ out!

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“The US took have of mexicos land ”

There’s a remedial English class with your name on it, Gump. Oh, and while you’re at it, take a history class as well.

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What has Santana done for civil rights in America?

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Pincho

Huh? Did you mean half?

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“If an officer approaches me for my brownness, I swear I’ll sue the entire State of Georgia!

You’ll waste taxpayer dollars losing that case.

“The folks on here prefer harassing brown people.’

If brown people didn’t rape, rob, kidnap and destroy our economy, you wouldn’t have a problem.

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Maybe Santana should go fix his own country so illegals wont have to come here. If hes so important then maybe, just maybe, Mexico should be where he puts his effort and leave America alone. I am not ashamed of fighting for OUR country and will never stop fighting for OUR country even though our government seems to want us to become MEXICO.

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I think Carlos is the racist. Why should he attack Americans for wanting to enforce their borders? Mr. Obama says that it is his responsiblity as the President of the united states to have secure borders so that only those who are legally approved may cross. Does that make Mr. Obama a racist too?
If we don’t get the border problem fixed it will only get worse later.

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I just want to know who decided on recognizing and awarding some of these people because some have gone down on record being Anti-American.

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Ask yourself one question ..If One million Mexicans lined up at the border and wanted to cross all at one time, would you let them? If your answer is no, well dang…CNN estimated that “7 – 20 million people were “living in this country illegally”.

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Can the “rights” of people who aren’t even citizens be defended. ONly in America can people who are not even citizens get free education and free insurance (at the expense of actual taxpayers).

Only in America.

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illegals immigrants do PAY for taxes. Their employers are required to take out federal taxes from their paycheck…. If the illegals were paying taxes through their employer, how would they do that. They have no SSN (therefore illegal) and if the employer takes taxes out from them then he is commiting tax fraud. Really. Think before you open you mouth.

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“America will be a non-white majority nation by 2050″

Right, and the ice age will hit America in 1993.

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Manny said: Illegals pay taxes. They just don’t pay income tax. Like people with hardly any money. And people with a lot of money. I always laugh when people say that other people pay no taxes.
Manny, I agree they pay sales tax, but they don’t pay social security tax, federal or state income taxes, they don’t pay the medicare tax, they don’t have unemployment paid for them. They do use hospital emergency rooms like a doctors office, causing hospitals to have to raise their fees for the rest of us to cover it. The do fill our schools causing higher cost for the rest of us to pay for schools. They are here illegally, they broke the laws of this country by entering illegally, and are a slap in the face for those who do things right and enter this country illegally. Carlos Santana is a great guitarist, but claiming that it is racist to remove people who broke this countries laws is in itself racist and ignorant. As for people with a lot of money not paying income tax. If it is income then they pay tax on it. If they have it and have already paid tax on it, then why should they pay tax on it again. Besides that the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay something like 75 or 80% of the federal income tax. So your statement there is ignorant.

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Ken,

EMPLOYERS are REQUIRED TO take Medicare, SOcial Security from your paycheck.

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Hey Carlos Santana, you don’t like it here you don’t have to live here.

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Ken,

You know most of these kids getting education are legal US Citizens right? You argument could have been used 10+ years ago. This is a new generaton, alot of kids were born in the US.

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truth

May 16th, 2011
1:01 pm

Truth, not if they just pay them in cash.

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I have one questions. If I went to Mexico ILLEGALLY what would happen to me??? If I broke their laws how understanding would the Mexican goverment be to me? If I am correct I would be in Jail with little or no understanding / sympathy at all.
So why are so many people upset about the US doing what every other country does. Enforcing our laws..
If someone choose to come here illegally and they get caught they should exptect to pay the penalty for breaking the law. I am confused, are the law for some people but not others?
If your child does something wrong do you not punish them?

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I started a new job in January, and my employer required that I show proof of my right to work in the US on my first day of employment. I filled out an I-9 and showed them my US passport as proof of citizenship. They put copies of both in my employee file as proof that we are both abiding by the law. I was not offended by this — certainly didn’t see it as racism. What’s wrong with verifying that someone has a right to work before you hire them?

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“What’s wrong with verifying that someone has a right to work before you hire them?

Nothing, just like there’s nothing wrong with having to show ID to vote in an election. The only reason left wingers complain is because that’s where a lot of their votes come from.

Democrats are the party of illegal votes. See: convicted felons, illegals and dead people.

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I don’t recall the State of Georgia asking a has-been, average guitarist his ideas on solving the ILLEGAL immigration problem. And that’s a good thing.

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CP: The answer to your question is that the political parties are courting the hispanic vote. They do not care one bit about the law if they can get the votes of a certain block of people that vote legally and illegally.

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I bet the same ons railing against the illegal Latinos have no problem with the illegal Asians in the massage parlors on Buford Hwy. or the illegal Russians that sneak in here under the pretense of marriage. As much as I agree that our immigration problem needs serious restructuring and our borders needs real patrolling, I’m not going to stand with “rill Murikins” on this one. I bet most of you don’t even realize that they are area on the border to the north that is manned by nothing other than a orange cone? And it’s not just Canadians coming through.

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I went to one of his concerts in Las Vegas just because I had a friend who worked at MGM and the tix were free. That was back when Bush Jr. was President. I left about half way through the concert because I was so offended by what Santana had to say about Republicans in general. He did not single Bush out, but rather specifically included “all republicans, including those in the stand here tonight”. I vowed never to support that fool, ever. I turn off his songs when they come on the radio and certainly do not allow my kids to listen to that fool.

As for the law, I have no problem with it as it is meant for “illegals”. As many have said look up the definition. Do I think there should be an easier road to becoming legal, probably. The biggest problem is that many illegals do not want to become legal. They strain our resources while not paying for them. They pay no taxes as illegals.

One of two things needs to happen. Either provide an easier pathway to legalization and tax them/treat them like any other American, or charge them for the educational and medical services they take advantage of at a fully burdened rate.

The real problem is that we, as a country, have put them in the middle and they are taking advantage of that. They pay no taxes, but take advantage of all the things our taxes pay for. That can not continue.

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This bill holds illegals up to the same standards as the rest of us. Sorry to be the one to point that out, Carlos. You are no longer a citizen of Mexico, sir. So act like an American. I don’t care that people want to come into our country and enjoy freedom and capitalism – that’s the American dream. But when they force their way in – and don’t pay taxes, but still reap all the benefits – THAT is where I have a problem. If I don’t pay my taxes, the IRS will hunt me down and make my life a living hell.

But you have illegal aliens (of any country, not just Mexico) that sneak in, get paid cash under the table and PAY NOTHING BUT SALES TAX. But that doesn’t stop them from using the police, the fire department, the school systems, the hospitals, the prisons, the Food Stamp programs, OR any other TAXPAYER FUNDED SERVICES. You want rights? FINE, you have the right to PAY TAXES just like the rest of us. If not, then get out. Our country is TOO BROKE and in TOO MUCH DEBT to pay for anyone that’s not putting their shares into the pot.

However, Carlos Santana is defined as one of those evil “rich” people by his liberal buddies. So I guess he won’t mind paying more money to the government to cover his illegal amigos. Right, Carlos?! You gonna pick up the tab for them? Be sure to make that check out to the IRS. However, you’re gonna have to pay some late fees by now since it’s after April.

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@PJ, 12:19 pm post

Thank you! I wholeheartedly agree!

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It truly entertaining to see both side of the “racial profiling” debate. On one hand, Latinos don’t want this law or that law because it would be racial profiling. On the other hand, their advocates have no problem touting, Latinos are hard working, family people, have a picture of Jesus and John Kennedy hanging in the front rooms and really just want a better life. So, which way do you want it Latinos? Don’t want to be profiled as the largest invader of another country, stealing identities, fraudlent voting, mooching social services? Or is it OK to profile you as hard working, lovely people blah blah blah. So the media either needs to skip the Lationo advocates who push the envelope all over the place for just their race, or we need to face the facts. None of these people (advocates) including Carlos, know any of these people. No reference to maybe there are gang members, drug runners, people with criminal backgrounds, nope; all just wonderful family people who love God and want to live in this country peacefully. What a crock. America is a magnet to illegal aliens because they know they can get away with murder, and in some cases literally.

We have a law. We have immigration laws which hopefully still dictates a manner of immagration that would allow reasonable diversity. I don’t want to live in a branch of Mexico. I don’t want to speak Spanish in America by forced requirements. I don’t want to support people who have children because the Pope says they need more congregational members and money. I don’t want my schools overcrowded with children who do not speak English and require special education. I don’t want to pay for the illegals medical services when my own family suffers from lack of coverage because we pay so much in taxes (partially to support the needs of illegals) that we can’t afford decent insurance coverage. I don’t want my home value to plummet because illegals cram 5 families into one home and don’t give a rats rear end about maintaining the property. Although I’ve already been dinged because thousands of them got loans they shouldn’t have for homes they just walked away from. So Carlos, I’m sure you don’t have to worry about any of these issues, but I do. I’m not rich. I don’t get to “cut a record” everytime I need to buy a new home or go to the grocery store or send my kids to school. Besides, I don’t even know what your reference to “representing the human race” means. You want terriorist in our country? They too are human. You want every social sucking free loader the world has to offer in our country? Maybe you should go back to Mexico and see what you can do for your home country. They need some help there. We don’t need your kind of help.

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Maggie

Great Post!

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There’s no way I’m going to believe the U.S government can’t stop these people from crossing the border. If the people coming across the border were haitian they would find a way to secure our borders!

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Truthpaste…sorry, I must say I am not a frequent visitor of the so-called massage parlors on Buford Highway, so I guess I’ll just have to take your word on that one. Hopefully, this whole discussion will have a “happy ending” though.

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Maggie,

check this out

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html

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“A United States Department of Justice report which surveyed homicide statistics between 1974 and 2004 stated that of the crimes surveyed, 52.2% of the offenders were Black, 45.8% were White, and 2% were Other Races. Of the victims in those same crimes, 50.9% were White, 46.9% were Black, and 2.1% were Other Races. The report further stated that “most murders are intraracial” with 86% of White murders committed by Whites, and 94% of Black murders committed by Blacks.[20] However, the document does not provide any details concerning what races or ethnicities are included in the designations “White”, “Black”, or “Other Races”.
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Sorry but Hispanics are the least of your problems

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SP

May 16th, 2011
1:36 pm
Illegal immigrants DO pay taxes, I know this for a fact. If you think illegals are moochers, you are sadly mistaken. They clearly have better and stronger work ethic than any of the fat cats who voted for this lame bill. Congrats, Gov Deal and continuing to destroy the economy of Georgia and the U.S.!

Oh yeah, sure…they are probably ALL covered by fantastic private insurance plans, they pay enormous amounts in Property Taxes (majority of which is School tax), they NEVER receive SSi or any other Government Subsidy……BS!

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oh Please,

umm if they occupy a home, they are required to pay propety tax. At least someone will (landlord). Property tax is INCLUDED in your mortgage

Employers do take Social Security and Medicare, etc from their paycheck.

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Hey TRUTH…a little more logic for you on your Googled crime statistics: did it ever occur to you that crimes are, in part, solved because there are ways to identify the culprit (they have a known address, known fingerprints, known drivers license, or otherwise identifialbe means of finding them)? When you are skulking around here illegally, it is MUCH easier to stay under the radar. Plus, if there are documented 20 million illegals in this country, your statistics are already flawed because that is 20 million crimes right there.

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I have an idea. Why dont we just mirror our immigration laws to reflect those of Mexico where it is a FELONY to enter the country illegally and punishable by stiff sentences.Why isnt carlos in his own country talking about how racist HIS own people are. What a tool.

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I have to laugh at all these people getting all indignant and puffing about the taxes that illegals *might* pay on their criminal profits. Whether they pay taxes or not has diddley to do with anything (except for them committing tax fraud, of course). So…if drug dealers paid taxes on the drug profits, would we stop enforcing drug laws? If prostitutes 1099′d at the end of the year, would that legitimize the industry? Of course not. So whether taxes are levied on the profits of a few illegals is just another red herring. Another strawman from the pro-crime lobby intended to distract one from the issue at hand…the necessarily criminal activities of illegal aliens.

What *is* pertinent is that if the illegal is getting a paycheck, it is criminal profit…just like money from drugs, stolen cars, embezzelment, and fraud. In fact, it *is* fraud – which is another thing these whiners don’t talk about…the ancillary crimes associated with illegal immigration. Crimes like identity theft, forgery, human traffiking, serial frauds including document, credit, labor and tax fraud. Nobody says it, but we all know that the pro-crime lobby will refuse to allow their special interests to be held responsible for any of those crimes (though they’ve got no problem with an American citizen or legal immigrant being prosecuted to the full extent of the law). After all…the illegal is pooor and shouldn’t be expected to act with the same honesty and decency as those stupid morons who actually followed the law.

And since they’re so very poor and pitiful, (and even the ethnocentric pro-crime, pro-illegal immigration folks cannot defend criminality on this scope with any modicum of honesty) any attempt to hold illegals responsible for their actions will be met with (baseless) accusations of racism, xenophobia, and bigotry. To these folks, we should be ashamed for respecting the law and wanting an orderly, safe society to live in. This I refuse to do.

I am most sincerely NOT ashamed of respecting the law nor of asking for it to be enforced.

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Enter your comments here
People have to understand this is a law, how about being taken from your native land and force to live in a way that you are not accustom to .? Mr. Santana should be saying if i had to do it the legal way so should everyone else. Their is no excuse for being illegal . Mr. Santana should visit the homeless shelters and see how many American born families are in their because they can not find affordable housing because their is no room for them , Let him go to any apartment complex and in a two bedroom you will find 7 illegal .

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Hearing Santana talk about illegal immigrants is like listening to an alcoholic promoting Sunday alcohol sales.

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Here are immigratiion levels by country per year

Country Per Year
Mexico 175,900
China 50,900
Philippines 47,800
India 59,300
Vietnam 33,700
Cuba 14,800
El Salvador 33,500
Dominican Republic 24,900
Canada 24,200
Korea 17,900
The U.S. immigration policy clearly favors Mexico. If you add in illegals from Mexico
and the anchor babies the number of Mexicans coming to the U.S. is over 600000
per year. Carlos Santana cleary does not represent the human race he only
represents Mexicans. If he represented the human race he would be in favor of reducing
immigration from Mexico and increasing it from countries that are much poorer than Mexico.
There are at least 100 countries that are poorer than Mexico. Mexico has the 11th largest economy in the world. The majority of U.S immigration to the U.S is from non white countries so
If the immigration policies are racist they are anti – white.

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truth

May 16th, 2011
1:45 pm
umm if they occupy a home, they are required to pay propety tax. At least someone will (landlord). Property tax is INCLUDED in your mortgage

Employers do take Social Security and Medicare, etc from their paycheck.

Once again–if there are 10 families in this house, how much is collected in “property taxes”.
And if “Employers do NOT file their pay on PAYROLL, please tell me HOW they PAY Medicare and SS”? uuuummmm????

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Godawgs,

You have to come legally if you come overseas. You need papers (Visa, passport, work program, etc) to board a plane or vessel to the US.

Why wait years when it takes you 1-2 days?

I am sure if the US was surrounded by an ocean, illegal immigrants would be a very very small problem.

What I dont understand is why the US doesnt have the same restrictions against Canada.

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Oh Please,

10 families?? lol thats a bit much

I pay 3500k in property taxes but dont have any kids. I guess I am paying for illegal’s children to get an education which I dont mind. I rather have the money go there then to house the homeless or pointless bills GA passes.

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Carlos Santana- Everyone is free to say what they wish to say, including Carlos Santana. He has proven that he is no smarter than a Rhesus Monkey(sorry Rhesus Monkeys!).

To Dose of Reality- It is time to get over the whole “we are all illegal aliens” thing. Grow up, stop acting like a two year old. Millions of families emigrated here and followed all of the laws that were in place at that time. They learned to speak English, adopted the culture and became Americans. The illegal aliens are just that. Illegal. How about this for a suggestion, all of you that feel that these people should stay, have to adopt/sponsor them. You are responsible for paying for their education, healthcare, legal and whatever other expenses they incur and cannot afford. The American taxpayer bears none of the responsibility. Seem like a reasonable plan. Oh, wait, it doesn’t? It was okay up until you personally are put in a position to foot the bill. If we had secure borders and an actual Federal guest worker program, this wouldn’t be an issue.In addition, it is time for the Federal Government to actually enforce the true intent of the Fourteenth Amendment and eliminate the “Anchor Baby” loophole. Enough already.

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“I guess I am paying for illegal’s children to get an education which I dont mind.”

You ain’t smart is ya?

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WOW

truth is…not smart. LOL

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Oh Please!!!

He/She is a liar as well.

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I’ve never heard of Carlos Santana before this blog. And now I certainly don’t care to know him.
Maybe he should just leave the doors of his private home open for those who need a place to sleep or something to eat.

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HB 87 as it is written in GA is severely flawed and largely one-sided. How can Gov Deal sign a bill that doesn’t address the problem and offer alternatives to prevent the “problem.” This law will be blocked by the Federal government because there is the potential for racial profiling which we should all agree is “illegal”. So why support a law that isn’t enforced with one that is illegal if even partially is beyond me. Why support a law that would or could have the potential of cost more to implement that what is currently available…is beyond me HB 87 will levy a $250k fine and 15 year jail term well when last check the cost to simply house an inmate was nearly $22k a year so basically the state will lose money because this cost like everything else WILL rise especially if the facility is corporate own.

Next one cannot deny the value that illegal immigration has on our country every aspect of our lives is dependent on their work from the French fries you consume at McDonald’s to the fluffy pillow at your hotel the cot you enjoyed was subsidized by illegal immigration labor. Although there are roughly 15m Americans out of work “looking” for work. They type of labor intensive work that illegal immigrants do is not the type of work they are looking for. Because Americans have too much pride to be humble and the government is too generous with handouts there is no incentive to get back to work ANY kind of work so why bother looking.

And as far as taxes please don’t believe the hype of “they don’t pay taxes” you may as well believe they don’t eat and sleep. For anytime you purchase ANYTHING in Georgia from a car to a t-shirt at Wal-Mart whether you pay cash or credit one has to pay taxes if even on a local level. And local taxes (depending on your county in GA) support things like Education, Local Option (police fire and other misc. county level positions)) Special Option (for libraries, sidewalks bridges road paving etc) Marta (which goes towards MARTA general fund for public transportation) so the argument that they don’t pay taxes is 100% untrue.

Speaking of education one of our greatest exports after democracy is our educational system true it needs works and more funding but each year thousands of students are taught in our schools nationwide. So what better export can we offer than our education and values to the world. I see no benefit in kicking out a promising illegal immigrant student who goes to class and has promise vs keeping an unruly ungrateful brat with no yearning to be great.

And since the debate here is either for or against why hasn’t anyone suggested HOW to fix the problem. For it is apparent that our elected officials really “hear” us which is why we have HB 87 on the books. So why don’t we begin to offer suggestions to deal with the problem at hand? I suggest that GA create a guest worker program similar to what UTAH has (who also had part of their immigration law strike down as unconstitutional on the grounds of racial profiling…do you see a trend developing). This bill could become a great bill for GA to really step into the fore front by showing compassion and gratitude to those illegal immigrants here that want to call America (USA) their home. Why not ask the Federal government to help make the process more streamlined less political.

As far as them “breaking the law” we all have a traffic ticket or worse on our record so does that mean we should be deported because we didn’t obey the laws of the land? Or because you are born here that entitles you to dictate who go and who stays? Or because illegal immigrants weren’t born in this country does that decide the life they get to live?
As an American I am just shocked at times at how we treat illegal immigrants; some of us without realizing their true impact on our lives. As a human being they have a fundamental right a better life for themselves and their families. This is a country founded by immigrants…have some of you forgotten the words “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” at the feet of The Statue of Liberty
If we are a country that believes in God or a higher being then we know this “land” is not ours so the best we could do as stewards of this land is offer our best hospitality to those that need it. A lot of the worlds’ problems could be solved if we stopped hating our fellow man more than we love ourselves.

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That is why the plaque states that she lifts her lamp beside the golden “door”. There is a way into this country legally, the way my ancestors did….through the door.

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and my ancestors came over unwillingly on a boat. But for those that have been here for 10 years or longer there was no gate or no door WHY? Because America turned a blind eye to “illegal immigration” and now that 15 million people are out of work America wants to do something about it. to late it would be to costly to deport that many people and would give this country no legal standing on any other international crisis or affairs for generations.

We are…who we are because of WHO we are a nation of immigrants.

So why dont we ask our elected officials to simiply streamline the process so that those that are here can pay a fine and get to the back of the line.

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Please, someone call 9-1-1. I just read MR11688’s post and my eyes are bleeding!

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I love all these people that use the tried-and-true argument of “well, a bunch of other people broke the law before, so what’s the big deal?” I wish they were my parents growing up.

Typical liberals…they ALWAYS leave out the word “illegal” when speaking of “our great country is made up of immigrants and blah blah blah.”

The problem is that most of their constituents (dare I say, perhaps even Carlos?) are a bunch of stoners that sit around keeping up with the Kardashians or wondering if Snookie is giving nookie instead of reading up on the subject.

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mr11688

May 16th, 2011
3:09 pm

Do you know what percent of ALL Income Taxes the “wealthy” pay? Are you saying that all Millionaires are “unworking”?
Go learn the facts, and come back and blog.

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I love love love Carlos Santana’s music but, the las time I saw him in concert, which was about 6 years ago, I swore, would be the last, he stopped the music and started his politicing. Who the hell comes to a concert, to here someone talk about politics. then, he goes on to talk about the rich, WTF, he is the rich. He is an ASS, Carlos is irrelevant and conceded. He loves himself, he claims at least at one time, he was a Christian, he is a liar, a Christian, would never say the things he says. He is judging.

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The hardcore racist Carlos Santana once again claims that his people and all people that look like him should be exempt from obeying American laws. He claims they must be allowed to sneak across the American border at will and steal the identities of American citizens as well as our jobs, etc.

Santana has exhibited the very essence of racism.

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“Faux News commerical break”

It’s hard to debate someone who uses words like “faux news.”
Oh, and spell check is your amigo, Gump.

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MR11688

Woody Allen dice, no discuta con un tonto. Se arrastra a su nivel y le golpearon con la experiencia.

For you Gringos: Woody Allen says, do not argue with a fool. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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I have a few questions I need answered.

1. Why and the heck is MLB conducting a “Civil Rights” baseball game? 2. Why is baseball blurring the line between sports and politics?
3. What’s the connection between Carlos Santana and baseball?
4. Who cares what Santana thinks?
5. What part of illegal does Santana not get?
6. George Bush who was duped by Vicente Fox did all Americans a disservice when he said “Illegals take the jobs Americans don’t want.” That was a very presumputous statement that’s not remotely based in reality.
7. When will libtards get a clue?

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“And I totally support Carlos speaking out. It’s about time someone got a back bone in this country who wasn’t funded by the Koch brothers or blaming the poor and uneducated. ”

Joe has the IQ of a carrot.

“Yeah, well, there was a time most Germans believed that before Hitler too. ”

Left wingers love Hitler.

“MOST of you don’t have a fifth of Santana’s accomplishments”

That’s because most of us aren’t drug dealers.

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Santana, Kiss my GRINGO AXX

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thanks Joe

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Thank you Carlos Santana for speaking out. This has always been a nation of immigrants and scapegoats. If we want to end “illegals” we’d have to deport all whites back to Europe and Blacks to Africa, but that is not realistic, and neither is deporting Latinos. There is no border for Walmart, Nike or Ford to go to Mexico, Philippines or other places to exploit workers. There is only hatred and attacks for poor people. Poor whites and poor Latinos and poor Blacks have a lot in common, they are really not each other’s enemy even if pitted against each other. God bless you Carlos Santana for speaking the truth. Those who know it’s the truth and it rubbed them the wrong away with react because it’s the truth and you will sense the defensiveness in their comments and attacks. It is so easy to attack, much harder to truly understand complex problems.

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joe

Long on words, short on sense.

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Is it Joe or Jose

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Hey Shoeless Joe Jackson I agree. Are you Neil Boortz? Either way it doesn’t matter, I was just curious. Yes, we have to do something about “illegal” immigration and that’s the bottom line folks. We cannot be serious about homeland security and protecting our borders if we are not willing to confront the illegal immigration problem. All the people who want to be passive on this issue, why don’t you go try to live somewhere else illegally and see how fast your behind will get thrown in jail or shipped back home. (faster than a tick on a New York minute)
Rules and boundaries are in place for a reason and that is to protect us. We cannot seek to redefine every policy, standard and boundary in this country. If this is you..just stop. We are still one nation under God and founded on biblical principle.

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Hey RayDawg, WOW, Oh Please, doncha just love these Juanny-come-latelys that get on this thread at th end of the day and don’t take the time to read the earlier posts? Looks like it will be a waste of time trying to re-educate the newbies; a task I’m not up for. Buenos noches, amigos!

And for MR11688, I am a millionaire and I pay muchos taxes. Six figures, actually. Let me ask this to you and the other liberals that are spending your time keeping up with Kardashians: Is the US Military protecting me more than you? The public servants? Am I not driving on the same public-funded roads as you? Are my kids not going to the same public schools and getting the same education (I pay $7K/year in property tax, so I guess I’m paying twice what you are already)? My point is, what is fair? 40%? 60%? How much do you think Carlos Santana should charge for a concert? Don’t you think he is making difficult for the migrant workers to attend and listen to his beautiful licks? How DARE he? I can only conclude he is a racist because he doesn’t think that poor Mexicans deserve to go to his concerts. Adios.

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“We are…who we are because of WHO we are a nation of immigrants”

The US used to be a melting pot, now we have become a toxic waste dump of people from other countries. We are well on our way to becoming a lawless third World country unless we controll all immigration, leagl and illegal.

Illegal immigrants TAKE much more than they contribute to our economy.

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Carlos Santana is an airhead that knows nothing about America and Civil Rights.
America generously allows a million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS in each year. We are a target for the scofflaws of all nations that come as ILLEGAL ALIENS, such as the Russian Mafia, Salvadoran MS-13, organized crime of Mexican drug cartels and the Muslim 9/11 terrorists. Most LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS come from Mexico.

In the last 15 years millions of legal immigrants from Mexico have followed their dream to America. They respect our laws, culture, freedom, opportunity and people. They have gladly submitted to extensive criminal background checks and health checks. They have paid $1,000s in fees, proven financial responsibility, agreed to not be a financial burden on our nation, learned English and waited patiently to become citizens of the U.S. and pledge their allegiance to our nation. They are honest, have integrity and good character and are welcome additions to our community.

During the same time millions more have come from Mexico illegally to make more money. They have overstayed visas and stolen across our borders like sneak thieves, disrespecting our laws, culture and citizens. They are anarchists, further breaking our laws by using stolen Social Security numbers, fraudulent identity documents, driving without valid licenses or insurance, lying on I-9 forms and taking American jobs in an unholy alliance with criminal employers. They suck services and tax dollars from our economy and could care less about the very real and very extensive economic damage they have caused to American workers through lost jobs and reduced wages. They are dishonest with poor integrity and tarnished character. They have proven themselves to be unworthy of the most valuable citizenship in the world.

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So what exactly is the position here? You don’t want illegal immigrants here because they take advantage of welfare programs? So, they are legally eligible for assistance? Why don’t we stop giving assistance if that is the case. End of story. Those that want to come here will work and work and work like the rest of us

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freaking idiots who live in America and resort to calling us racists when we say anything about the protection of our borders and the enforcement of are laws. Then resort to saying we the pilgrims came here illegally, a statement like that shows you are a complete idiot, seriously the pilgrims came here illegally? Are you serious, are you an idiot, to say the pilgrims were illegal immigrants is moronic. There is really no talking to you, you believe the words of your liberal reps, “fairness” when really what they want is to control every aspect in your life. The way they start to win this control is to preach “fairness” and you are too stupid for me to spend my time how this turns into control. FYI, mexicans, illegal or legal these people are not liberals, they are trying to get away from a country that the liberals in this country want to have the usa become, so why would the mexicans side with the liberal party in usa. Give them a vote, you got the black race because you installed it into their entire culture, you are the reason blacks cant get over slavery. Mexicans are not liberal. You are f’ing yourselves by want millions of mexicans to come into the usa, the mexicans are completely different from blacks. Watch and see where their votes go.

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Thanks for sharing this information about this through your immigration blog site.It was very helpful to me.Thanks a lot for this.

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Lets put the issue in pragmatic terms that even Carlos can understand.

Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, crumbling infrastructure, diminishing resources, crime, pollution, vanishing farmland and green space, water and energy shortages, lack of affordable housing, overcrowded schools, hospitals, jails, the balkanization of our communities, depressed wages, increased tax burdens, the marginalization of American workers, students, taxpayers, voters, the overall decline in quality of life are all the result of unconstrained immigration and lax enforcement. Indeed, there are no problems confronting America’s citizens that would NOT be immediately and measurably improved by securing our borders and enforcing our immigration laws. China, Mexico, Great Britain, the European Union, the Middle East, most of Asia, have all adopted zero tolerance policies for illegal immigration. These same nations have also implemented practices to identify, incarcerate, and deport illegal aliens already operating within their communities. Likewise these same countries have adopted policies aimed at curtailing legal immigration, limiting such legal immigration to only that which is prudent, only that which is demonstrably necessary, only that which can be readily assimilated, and above all other considerations, limited only to that which is in the best interests of their native populations! It’s dangerously misguided to even suggest that the United States not do likewise! Like it or not folks, regardless of how politicians, the media, and failing rock stars try to spin the narrative, the fact remains that “too many people competing for the same limited resources is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, sane, sustainable social, economic or environmental policy! Hope that clears up the confusion that this is in any way an issue of race.

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@Steve~~ Unless you are a Native American, you are an invader too idiot. And for those who say the politians don’t do anything about this because the “illegal aliens” vote for them, you are ignorant as well. “Illegal aliens” can’t vote. Educate yourselves before posting.

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Actually, it wouldn’t be all that costly to identify, incarcerate, and deport illegal aliens that are already operating in our communities. Attrition through enforcement, essentially the premise under which all laws operate, would effectively end illegal immigration and reduce the taxpayer burdens of providing billions in education, healthcare, social services, law enforcement costs, etc,,, for illegal aliens already in our country.

By actually using enforcement practices already on the books, policies like matching numbers for social security and implementing E-Verify requirements, more American workers would benefit from employer competition for available legal workers. More working Americans equals more taxpayers. Indeed, the “American quality of life” (that was at one time arguably the envy of the world), is based on this competition for workers through wages, benefits and working conditions, that evolved over several hundred years, and prior to Liberal politicians opening the floodgates to illegal immigrants in the 70’s (along about the time Carlos was cranking out his hit records).

Attrition through enforcement is simply a scenario where you establish negative consequences that result from activities that run contrary to the interests of the community. These consequences must be swift and certain, and of sufficient punitive impact as to encourage others to avoid such activities. Rob a bank, go to jail. Violate our borders or overstay a visa, go to jail briefly, until such time as you are removed and returned to your native land. Call it the carrot and the stick. Certainly our existing immigration laws are already the most fair and forgiving of any nation on the planet. We allow over 1 million immigrants to enter and remain legally every year. Attrition through enforcement, SS number matching, E-Verify Requirements, work site raids, would be monumentally effective as they would address not only the illegal alien side of the equation, but the employer side as well. Further, by allowing the use of taxpayer funded resources (i.e. state and local police, health care professionals, social services, etc,,) to act as a force multiplier (one that is already paid for and doesn’t require additional federal bureaucracy in Washington, and that would not be subject to an Administrations re-election agenda) for federal immigration agencies, the costs of identifying, incarcerating and deporting illegal aliens is substantially reduced and thus public resources maximized. It’s hard to argue that state and local law enforcement have a better understanding of conditions on the ground in our communities, than some appointed bureaucrat in Washington who’s concerned that his Boss gets re-elected.

As more illegals and their dependents are removed by enforcement, the costs to taxpayers for continuing to support an enormous and growing population of illegal aliens is likewise reduced. One should not forget that with effective enforcement, the costs of enforcing and even deporting illegal aliens is reductive. The costs of allowing the status-quo to continue, allowing illegals to roam freely through our nation and it’s economy, will be infinite. As sanctions against employers for hiring or subcontracting illegal aliens is applied, the jobs magnet would end, and the number of prospective illegals would likewise decline. We should also consider the opportunities that would be created for American workers, entrepreneurs and government in the fields of law enforcement, incarceration, and transportation as the economy adapts it’s industry to identifying, incarcerating and removing illegal aliens. Certainly this alone would far offset any potential costs of enforcing our immigration laws and deporting the illegal aliens as necessary. Further, implementing “asset forfeiture” policies for illegal aliens and their employers, essentially denying them the ‘ill-gotten gains’ of their activities, would also help to offset the costs of enforcement and act as an additional dis-incentive for future illegal immigrants. In fact, the prospect of losing cash, jewelry, homes, cars, truck, tools, real estate, company assets, might be the most daunting impediment to future illegal immigration as both illegals and their employers would lose the very assets they broke our laws to gain.

I would note that asset forfeiture laws are already in use and effective in all fifty states, and by applying these same principals to immigration enforcement, we might actually create an environment whereby the majority of illegal aliens would self deport rather than lose their “ill-gotten gains”. Asset forfeiture as applied to illegal aliens and their employers would appeal to the American sense of justice. In a nutshell, the costs of deporting illegal aliens as they are encountered while initially high, would be finite, and reductive over time. Once a policy of effective enforcement is established, and the jobs and benefits magnet is ended, the incentives for illegal immigration would decline to negligible or at least manageable levels. The alternative is to allow the continuing escalation of unsustainable taxpayer burdens, environmental and resource degradation, and the oppressive loss of quality of life and opportunities that would result from continuing unconstrained immigration and lax enforcement policies.

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Speaking as a tax payer, I don’t want to support the worthless individuals in prison. More money goes to support prisoners than you think. They have it made, while we scrimp and save, live paycheck to paycheck and rob Peter to pay Paul, the prisoners have three square meals a day, free to them medical coverage, dental, vision, tv, work out rooms, libraries, computers and education. I believe the families of the prisoners should be paying monthly for the NEEDS of their prisoners and unburden the taxpayers from this waste of tax money.

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Black people in America are stupid if they band together with Illegal Mexicans and other illegal South Americans. They want to use the civil rights legacy. As Spike Lee says, “Wake up”!

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Study them, learn their ways so we can counter their illegal means to stay here…

http://immigrationmexicanamerican.blogspot.com/

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A very “Well Said” to “Ed Weirdnesss” and his comments. I wonder how many congressmen / law makers have thought of that? I wonder how long it would take the far left libs to try and block it.. Hats off to ED!

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Was Santana booed during his speech? How did the crowd react to his statement about “being ashamed?”

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