Dan Reeves to giddy ex-Bulldog: “It’s hard to change Detroit”

They’ve golfed together enough to develop a strong bond. In fact, although Dan Reeves preferred that Matthew Stafford remain at Georgia for his senior season, the former Falcons coach keeps praising the maturity level and the gifted ways of the former Bulldogs quarterback along the way to this weekend’s NFL draft.

“He’s a great person,” said Reeves, owner of a famously honest tongue.

Speaking of which, Reeves is correct to suggest that Stafford has lost his mind. He actually wants to play for the Detroit Lions, the worst pro football team of the past 50 years. The Lions are close to granting Stafford’s wish by selecting him with the first pick in the whole draft.

So why is this brutal?

“It’s hard to change Detroit,” said Reeves, without the hint of a chuckle.

“You can change coaches. You can change owners. I mean, there’s so little difference in winning and losing in the NFL, and one of the big things that teams that I’ve coached have had in Dallas, Denver, Atlanta — and even more so New York — is that people want to live there.

“Nobody wants to live in Detroit.”

I laughed, but Reeves didn’t, and the owner of the famously honest tongue added, “I’m serious. It’s a fact that nobody wants to live there. I mean, there are so many things that go into it. The economy, the weather. What makes a good football team is their ability to work together in the offseason, and that’s not going to happen in Detroit.”

In contrast, much is happening in Atlanta with Reeves’ old franchise that used NFL rookies at general manager, coach and quarterback last season to win 11 games after the Falcons managed only four during the previous season.

That general manager, Thomas Dimitroff, was so efficient that 10 of his 11 picks made the roster and three became starters. He also acquired splendid running back Michael Turner, and Dimitroff’s streak of enlightenment continues. He just traded for star tight end Tony Gonzalez, which is enough to make Reeves’ surgically repaired heart flutter with joy.

“I don’t think you can pass up tight ends, because they’re hard to find,” said Reeves, 65, who expressed his tight-end obsession often during his seven years with the Falcons that included a Super Bowl trip and the Miracle at Green Bay and lasted through the 2003 season. “Reggie Kelly, Alge Crumpler [both tight ends on Reeves' Falcons]. They’re kind of an offensive lineman and a receiver, and that’s a tough combination.

“If I got back into coaching, I’d definitely have me a couple of good tight ends.”

For now, Reeves just talks about tight ends as an NFL analyst on radio. He still lives in Atlanta, where he’ll golf Saturday before he returns home to see what the Falcons do with their 24th and 55th picks overall.

What should they do?

“I really haven’t looked at film and studied guys [like I used to],” said Reeves, who deferred to Dimitroff’s judgment. “Yeah, he has done a great job.”

He’s not in Motown, for instance. Reeves didn’t say that, but he could have.

64 comments Add your comment

Left to Right

April 24th, 2009
5:48 pm

Good article.

I heard Reeves say on the radio this morning that the Falcons should still consider drafting Pettigrew if he is still available. As your article alludes, some addictions simply cannot be broken, and Dan Reeves will go to his grave believing every team in football could use a couple more tight ends.

bass stringerfish

April 24th, 2009
5:56 pm

No so far fetched an idea. The what ifs come to mind…what if TG gets hurt, we certainly are not satisfied with what we have to replace him or we would not have made the trade or had been looking at Pettigrew. TG has 2-3 years at optimum performance maybe….why not let him work Pettigrew in.. Work another trade and get a high number 2 and use both number 2’s on the defense….don’ think any of this will happen, but I would not be upset nor surprised…

Go Braves

April 24th, 2009
6:18 pm

Dan Reeves is 100% right! The Blacks and their lack of morals in their culture has made Detroit unlivable. Might as well be in South Africa.

dave

April 24th, 2009
6:21 pm

I am glad you are leaving the AJC, jerk.

Terrible Truth

April 24th, 2009
6:45 pm

We’re paying how much for Tony Gonzalez? Ay Caramba!!!

falcon21

April 24th, 2009
8:57 pm

Dan Reeves never said that and never even came close to saying that. Dan is a class act unlike you GB.

hop

April 24th, 2009
9:41 pm

DAN is a wondeful person who had a very successful career,but i for one am pleased that he is not making the decisions on draft day.

we had some bad drafts when he was here.

give him a break

April 24th, 2009
10:10 pm

Dan was and is a class act. Yes, he drafted Reggie Kelly, but don’t forget we were coming off of the SB year and obviously figured to be successful the next year also. Who knew Jamaal would blow out his knee and the choice we swapped for Kelly would be such a high pick? Don’t forget, Reeves drafted McClure, Brooking, Crumpler, several of the offensive lineman still with us, and of course Michael Vick who never got into trouble until after CDR left. The man took us to the SB, which in itself ordains him as a miracle worker.

Wolverine

April 24th, 2009
10:22 pm

Class act? Just like every other single idiot who categorizes the city and state without ever living here. Michigan’s a great place to live and raise a family… Detroit? That’s another story, but no one lives in the damn city anymore anyways… Oh and Dan, you can’t win in Detroit? Tell the Wings that… Pistons? Tigers were in the World Series a few years ago. You’re an idiot. Move along

Stacy

April 24th, 2009
10:49 pm

Wow GB. Not sure where you pulled that one from. Let’s see, he said, “economy, weather”, don’t see race put in there anywhere. I know a lot of people of all races that would not want to live in Detroit. I sense a bit of racism in you.

falcon21

April 24th, 2009
10:54 pm

Wolverine, he said the city, he did’nt say a darn thing about the state. You’re an idiot. Move along.

Jeffer

April 24th, 2009
10:57 pm

Wolv do you still live in detriot

Brian Hunt

April 24th, 2009
11:02 pm

Dan Reeves’ offense was based around two TE sets, so of course he always wanted a couple of good TEs. It made sense for the system.

Greg

April 25th, 2009
12:18 am

this guy never won anything at GA…what a joke…he will get killed in the NFL….

Mike

April 25th, 2009
12:54 am

This will turn out to be one of the most famous of all famous flops in Detroit draft history. Stafford has a great arm, and certainly can throw a pass with skill, but nothing much else. You think he got rattled and made poor decisions at GA? Just wait…

stomach turned.

April 25th, 2009
1:04 am

you fools are insufferable assh*les. you make it miserable to try and read about my hometown sports teams. ‘preciate ya.

stendec

April 25th, 2009
3:26 am

Lions and desperate fans (Yankee scum every one) expect Stafford to produce like Ryan and that other rookie QB did in 2008. Will not happen! Stafford does not possess leadership qualities or physical/mental toughness required. If he starts he will not last out the season without an injury. Rushed passes will be off target while perfect aerials will be dropped. Why? Because Lions are anti-Red Wings. Always have been. Always will be. The Falcons have sucked for decades but, thankfully, never pitched an oh-fer (winless season). A dubious mark which CAN ONLY be matched NEVER surpassed (if that is correct word). Complete failure is its own reward. Much like revenge being a dish best served cold.

misterwax

April 25th, 2009
3:54 am

Go Braves speak a very deep truth, a painful truth, but truth none the less….. Sho ’nuff!!!

WILLSTER

April 25th, 2009
4:17 am

MATT RYAN HAS ENOUGH MONEY NOW IF HE GETS HURT HE CAN HEAL HIS WOUNDS WITH HIS MILLIONS.

WILLSTER

April 25th, 2009
4:21 am

THE FALCONS WILL GET RAY M FROM USC IS THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THEM AND MATT RYAN, AND I KEEP TELLING YOU IDIOTS OF ATLANTA IF THEY DONT GET 2GOOD CORNERBACKS,IN THIS DRAFT THEY HAVE TO FACE TOM BRADY IN A FEW MONTHS ,WOW I CANT WAIT TO BET THAT GAME, WITH THE FALCONS DEFENSE A PATRIOT BLOWOUT.

WILLSTER

April 25th, 2009
4:24 am

wow the draft saturday and sunday,and the kentucky derby next saturday doesnt get any better than this,except for the dodgers to win the ws in 2009

Former Season Ticket Holder

April 25th, 2009
8:44 am

“Go Braves” is an idiot. That is all.

UGA ALWAYS WILL JUST AVERAGE PROGRAM

April 25th, 2009
9:06 am

GoBraves you are 100 percent correct about Detorit..I guess those Georgia inbreads haven’t seen the latest top ten cities with the worst crime. Over rated Stafford will die on the bench just like another over rated UGA Mutt David Greene..

TROTTINGHOME

April 25th, 2009
9:06 am

dEAR GO BRAVES,

WHITE PEOPLE MADE DETROIT WHAT IT IS TODAY.

TROTTINGHOME

April 25th, 2009
9:09 am

TERENCE THIS ANOTHER STINKING BULLSHIIIIIT ARTICLE.

YOU BISCIT CHEWING KNEE BENDING HEAD BOWING BOOT LICKING NO GOOD UNCLE TOM JOURNALIST

TROTTINGHOME

April 25th, 2009
9:10 am

AND YOU SUCK PORK CHOP BONES TOO

Jim

April 25th, 2009
9:18 am

Wonder when T Moore’s buyout kicks in…hopefully by lunch today.

Tom Davis

April 25th, 2009
9:53 am

T. Moore – Thank God the AJC fired you.

Maddog

April 25th, 2009
10:17 am

To “UGA ALWAYS WILL JUST AVERAGE PROGRAM”. Please read your post name and see if it makes sense to you. Seconed, enlighten all of us as to what sport you excelled in. Just sayin’…..

Iceman

April 25th, 2009
10:17 am

Greg apparently missed Stafford’s wins over Oklahoma State, Florida, GA Tech, Virginia Tech, his 3-0 record vs Auburn, a Sugar Bowl win (not his fault Hawaii turned out to be nothing). The guy has won, like it or not.

Chief

April 25th, 2009
10:20 am

Actualy, Maddog, “UGA ALWAYS WILL JUST AVERAGE PROGRAM” will always be just an average speller.

goblue

April 25th, 2009
10:24 am

“Famously honest tongue”? Excuse me while I gag. Typical synchophant piece by Moore. OK, so what would Mr. Reeves, the redneck from Waycross, GA, suggest? That the NFL get out of all cities with cold weather? I guess that it’s curtains for Buffalo, Green Bay, Minneapolis, Chicago, and all the rest. Or maybe the NFL should not be in cities with lousy economies that relied on heavy industry- and oh, by the way, afforded, thanks to the unionws that are so despised in the South, decent middle-class lives to ordinary people without advanced educations? God forbid that young millionaire eternally adolescent jocks be expected to play somewhere that they wouldn’t necessarily choose to vacation in. The problem with the Lions isn’t the weather or the economy, it’s the Ford family ownership- which Reeves should know ALL ABOUT, since he worked for the equally inept Smiths early in his tenure here. As a Lions fan, I can only hope that I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t touch Stafford. He’s got a strong arm, but he’s not accurate, and he came up empty in every signature game he played in last year. Same old Lions pattern of evaluating NAMES instead of talent.

Maddog

April 25th, 2009
10:27 am

Iceman, great points. Some people can never accept the truth. For instance, Stafford seemed to always play behind an inexperienced line. No fault of his. Also, for those who imply that he never won anything – it’s hard for Stafford to win an SEC or NC when another SEC won the NC for the past 3 years. For those Bulldog fans who were Staffords’ critics, at least consider the influence of his #1 draft status as it relates to recruiting. It’s pretty impressive to visit a high school quarterback and refer to the fact that you mentored the NFL’s #1 draft pick. Stafford frustrated me at times, but I appreciate his service at UGA and wish him well in the pros.

Terence, I really didn’t like many (if not most) of your articles over the years, but I do wish you as well. Speaking as someone who has experienced the effects of company cutbacks in the past, I never like to see someone lose their job. It’s just not right to rejoice in something like that.

Maddog

April 25th, 2009
10:34 am

goblue, good analogy about the problems of ownership. The Smith family proved themselves to be incapable of running a successful pro football franchise. I don’t know much about the Lions but I defer to your experience as a Lions fan.

I will, however, disagree with your comment about evaluating names instead of talent. I believe Stafford went through some of the most intense screening (athletic ability, mental acuity, etc) I’ve seen. He may not be succesful in Detroit, but he surely shouldn’t bear the brunt of the blame if that happens. As much as I like Matt Ryan, I believe a large part of his success was the fact the Falcons had a solid O-line, good receivers, and a punishing running game. I don’t know much about the Lions, but will Stafford have the same?

Triple Dawg

April 25th, 2009
10:36 am

Great column, Terence. Dan Reeves is absolutely right about Detroit…it is a miserable city that is riddled with old infrastructure, bad roads, and horibble weather, and that has nothing to do with race, you idiots! I wish you well on your future endeavors.

DirtyDawg

April 25th, 2009
10:41 am

Good God Almighty. For some time it’s been obvious simply by reading The Vent and the comments that are voted up or down that a substantial percentage of the posters here are fundamentally racist, but I never really appreciated the fact that they/you are so damn proud of it. You go after Terence Moore because he’s black and because you don’t like some of his positions, that’s perhaps understandable, but to decide to formalize your bigotry by capitalizing the words The Blacks – that’s right, you ‘Go Braves’ – is the worst. If you don’t know it by now, this country is a diverse, multi-cultural, multi-racial amalgam of the world’s best, and perhaps some of the worst. We are what we are and when you insist on continuing to fight the Civil War and to portray African Americans as sub-standard you and the rest of those in the South, and elsewhere, will inevitably hold this country back from achieving it’s true greatness. Shame on you you redneck peckerwood.

Chief

April 25th, 2009
10:52 am

DirtyDawg, as a native American I agree with your comments about the diversity of this country and distaste for racism. I don’t think, however, Go Braves (ironic isn’t it with me being of “indian” descent) was elevating his racism by capitalizing “Blacks”. You, and most others, will capitalize “African Americans”, “Native Americans” and so on. It still doesn’t excuse his ignorance. Actually, I shouldn’t say ignorance because he knows better. He’s just plain stupid.

Anyway, we don’t need to be politically correct to identify or excuse racism. It’s just plain wrong. I was actually quite stunned to see Go Braves comments.

What's worse

April 25th, 2009
10:58 am

I don’t know what’s worse. The go braves guy making a racial statement that the blacks in Detroit have made the city unliveable or the response by DirtyDawg.

Everyone can agree that gobraves statement is racist even if there is some truth to it. That’s what really bothers some people, that there actually is a kernel of truth to his statement even if it is racist.

As for dirtydawg give me a break. You’re just as much a bigot as go braves with the term “redneck peckerwood”. What gives you the right to moralize to people about racism and then call someone a racial epithet? You are either a black person who is just as bigoted as go braves or you are one of those politically correct white people who loves to arrogantly look down their noses at poorer, lower income whites.and contemptuously call them “redneck peckerwoods”.

Stafford to Detroit.

April 25th, 2009
11:22 am

Good luck to Matt Stafford but I feel Reeves is probably right about Detroit. While I admire Stafford’s willingness to be positive and go to Detroit with the full intention of being a winner I think Detroit is just going to swallow him up like a black hole.

I lived in downtown Detroit near Greektown in a nice hotel for a month while training for a company headquartered in Detroit. Of the cities I’ve lived in (Miami, San Diego, Atl) and visited and spent time in or lived in Detroit is the absolute cesspool by a wide margin. I didn’t have one decent night’s sleep there with all the police sirens going off in the middle of the night all night long. God only knows what all the cop calls were responding to.

As for the people I met there I honestly can’t remember many friendly people there and that includes the people I worked with. They seemed to absolutely freaking hate life except for maybe 2 people.

When I look at Detroit I think of DC. The mayor is an embarrassment and is on his way to jail if he is not already in jail. He is in the same vein of azzclowns as Marion Barry was to DC. It makes me wonder what on earth is wrong with these people who elect guys like this? I don’t want to get racial like go braves above but there is something seriously wrong with these people.

When I look at their economy I see a state that was in a 1 state recession for years long before the rest of the country went into recession. Yet these people keep electing the same people to office over and over like with the clown mayor of Detroit. They just don’t seem to get it.

I also see stagnant, rustbelt auto mfg, corrupt unions, and union members who will not budge on their unreasonable demands for benefits and want the rest of the country to inevitabaly pick up the tab for their vaious benefits if the car mfgs go under. I hate to say it but this is just a city that is rotten to the core from what I’ve seen.

The latest and greatest the Detroit has produced is the likes of Kid Rock and Eminem. If you ever look at the lyrics of these 2 guys music then you clearly understand Detroit values.

Outhoused

April 25th, 2009
11:24 am

So many idiots saying he’s not a leader, he does not possess leadership qualities or physical/mental toughness required. The closest you a$$es ever got to this young man is your tv, and you know all about him!!

I read comments from people who actually KNOW Stafford, and they say exactly the opposite things.

Now who should we believe?

sammiamm

April 25th, 2009
12:19 pm

Follow that logic and premise, and one would have to wonder the success of the Detroit Red WInds, and even Pistons, or Spartans, or Big Blue. And the success of Buffalo, or Green Bay

I would argue that tradition – winning tradition – has more to factor than geography, climate, or economy.

So out Stafford sets, to build that tradition.

Impossible? No. Difficult? yes.

But Stafford has the viosion and determination. He’s on a mission. A trajectory. Has been for over 15 years. That’s what’s gotten him here. And that’s what it’ll take to build a tradition.

Good luck, and good choice Detroit

falcondawg

April 25th, 2009
1:34 pm

Isn’t is sad that a sports column brings out such racism? It’s ironic that in most instances, sports has transcended race. Throughout his career at AJC Terrance Moore has suffered remarks and insults that are obviously based solely on his race. Just goes to show how ignorant (and yes, Chief) “stupid” some people really are. And the sad part is, they seem to relish being stupid.

clickdawg

April 25th, 2009
2:03 pm

Enter your comments here

clickdawg

April 25th, 2009
2:04 pm

gb is a racist a-hole, come out front and mumble those words, punk.

Mister T

April 25th, 2009
2:33 pm

Coach Reeves is from Americus not Waycross. Still a fine man and was a great coach.

But TM, you used the “famously honest tongue” thing twice. It was wierd the first time and poor the second time. You are better than that.

Mister T

April 25th, 2009
2:36 pm

I think the issue with no one wanting to live in Detroit is more a factor of the weather and the economy. If the car industry were to come back, obviously the economy was enough to make the weather bearable in the 60-80’s. You would think with “global warming” and all that it would be more desirable by now..wink wink.

tony

April 25th, 2009
2:39 pm

The story by Mr. Moore is good and Mr. Reeves seems to be a nice guy, but if he is going to say some of those things about the city of Detroit he needs to have more facts. Look at other cities that are cold and have had problems ( Pittsbugh, Washington with Joe Gibbs, etc). The city is not that big of a factor and ownership and coaching is more of a factor. I am a Dallas Cowboy fan and one of the main problems with the Cowboys is that Jerry Jones and family need to get someone with the correct football knowledge as a coach and General Manager. The comments from Go Braves were very much out of line and again without facts. One of the problems in our country is racism and most of it is based on a lack of facts/knowledge.

hop

April 25th, 2009
2:42 pm

mike , I agree with you about stafford even though I am dawg fan.

he does have the physical tools ,but he is not a team leader and not a very accurate passer. he reminds me of most other georgia qb’s who never made it in the nfl.

SHSGC

April 25th, 2009
4:13 pm

Dan Reeves should be ashamed of himself for his comments. What an absolutely nasty and hateful thing to say about any city in America. I grew up in the Detroit area and have lived in several states since, and I can say that the people in that area area as good as they come. It’s a great place to live. It’s a great sports town. And the weather? Duh! They’re called seasons. They occur naturally. They allow one to ski and snowmobile and throw snow balls at the heads of unemployed football coaches. I used to have respect for Reeves. No more.

Go Braves

April 25th, 2009
7:06 pm

Im not racist, just speak the truth. Its a shame that anyone with the balls to speak the truth is labeled a “racist” or a “uncle tom”

And since when is Terrance Moore a “uncle tom”? I actually enjoy his articles except when he blindly defends the BCS on the Jim Rome show.

Perhaps hes a “uncle tom” to you because he can speak in complete sentences, and dosent have a “crew”? To me, hes a good man with intillegence and morals whos probably been there for his kids.

Which is more than can probably be said for those of you who would blindly label decent, hard working men like him “uncle toms”

I love people that speak the truth like Bill Cosby, and despise fools who blindly destroy their culture like 50 cent. Does that make me a racist? or a realist?

It is what it is

April 25th, 2009
9:27 pm

I’ve been to Detroit….stayed a whole weekend, and was glad as hell when I was leaving. I was scared I was gonna be mugged/shot/assaulted/ the whole weekend, and the po-po kept everyone awake responding to crime all weekend long. Reeves is right. Detroit is a sh**-hole, and the best thing to ever come out of there is I-75.

UnderDog

April 25th, 2009
9:29 pm

Hey Mr. Moore, did you find another job yet? I hear the National Enquirer is hiring.

falcon21

April 25th, 2009
10:07 pm

Dan Reeves is from Rome Ga. GB go back and read your other comment.

DirtyDawg

April 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Dan is from Americus – at least that’s where he grew up and attended high school – and as for my earlier redneck peckerwood comment, all I can say is if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and is constantly seen in the company of ducks…it’s probably a duck.

TROTTINGHOME

April 25th, 2009
11:23 pm

Go Braves is a complete idiot and a boot licker

Go Braves

April 26th, 2009
6:20 am

Trottinghome: your IQ probably is around 70…. your playing checkers while im playin chess kid…. your not on my level…therefore what you say holds no precedence

sammiamm

April 26th, 2009
8:03 am

Reset the conversation:

How will Stafford contribute to Detroit/s future successes – or not?

Does he have game – in addition to that arm?

Can he lead?

And will management follow, if so?

I’m not from Detroit – far from it. But I do know that if you venture outside the (decrepit) city center, things aren’t half bad. Good enough for a group of overpaid CEO’s anyway.

And the weather really only gets unbearable in Janaury, at which point, if one follows Terence’s logic, Stafford will be in diving or fishing in the Caribbean anyway.

And then in 3.5 short months comes May – at which point I’d rather be in Grosse Point or Bloomfield Hills than New Orleans. Or Tampa. Or JVille.

And to those who judge a city by sirenns and decay – I spent my first night in Atlanta in the Omni back in 90 – and I was scare ****less also. But I gave this transformational city a chance.

B

atlnative1

April 26th, 2009
9:52 am

TM…ajc finally figured out you were as worthless to their organization as your words are to the readers. I stopped reading your senseless ideas years ago. Must be extremely frustrating to know that one of the worst papers in the US thinks your words are crap, too. Use this down-time while changing careers to get some professional help. Or move to Canada.

MikeJones

April 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

When does the buyout kick in Terence?

Doremus Robinson

April 27th, 2009
11:58 am

Terence,

PLEASE LEAVE

Editor

April 27th, 2009
12:00 pm

To all AJC readers,

Terence Moore has left the building.

ToccoaDawg

April 27th, 2009
12:42 pm

TM hurry and leave you racist pig

Butt Secks

April 28th, 2009
9:16 am

Before you leave, don’t forget to have that girl upstairs suck your dick.

1911A1

April 29th, 2009
4:53 pm

The chicken-clucks at AJC have closed TM’s final blog…yet an extremely offensive post remains on this one. Go figure.

Lots of spit n’ vinegar on that other blog about racism. Does anyone know what the definition of the word actually is? Racism is the belief that one race is inherently superior/inferior to another. Terence is not a racist; he’s a bigot…as are most of us when one takes an honest look in the mirror.

My complaint with “Mikey” isn’t about real or perceived race-baiting; it’s the fact that he lives in a constant state of acute cranio-rectal inversion and that he hates everything. His negativity and carping will not be missed.