Week 4: Bobo vs Groh & Missing #8 Badly…

One of the great things about getting the opportunity to write this fan blog is the fact that it ocassionaly provides me with a soapbox and a voice that might otherwise get lost amongst the verbal flotsam that comprises a majority of the blog comments…

Bigger Bust?  Bobo or Groh?  Really…Seriously?

With all due respect to Jeff Shultz, how can you compare Mike Bobo and Al Groh?

This is not even comparing apples to apples.  Its not comparing apples to oranges either.  Its more along the order of comparing a grape to a watermelon.

I’m not going to assign a name to either fruit.  I’m just going to say, hopefully very succinctly, the following:

  • One coach has been an offensive coordinator in his current program for four years while the other coach is a newly hired defensive coordinator who just coached his fourth game with his new program.
  • One guy was the QB coach within his current program for five years before ascending to offensive coordinator while the other guy was running his own program in a completely different state for the better part of the previous decade.
  • One guy is working with a roster of players recruited specifically for his system while another guy is implementing a fundamentally different scheme, using players that were not recruited to play his brand of defense.
  • One guy supposedly had the “best offensive line in the country” while the other guy doesn’t have a true nose tackle on his roster.

It would have made more sense to compare Groh and Grantham.  There are at least logical points of comparison there.

How Badly Do We Miss Demarious Thomas?

We miss #8 badly…really badly…

We all know he caught a ton of balls and ran up alot of yards in route to a nice TD total.

That’s why he got drafted in the first round and has already made an impact with Denver.

Tonight I went back and looked at the play by play from each game in the 2009 season.  I was looking for “impact” plays where Thomas had a legitimate individual impact on the outcome of the game.

My findings were very interesting…

  • Clemson (Game 1) - Thomas caught a 34 yard TD on a fake field goal and then late in the fourth, on a third and 11 play, he caught a 39 yard first down conversion that salvaged the drive and led to a field goal.
  • Miami - Thomas caught a 39 yarder in the third quarter on a third and 9 play which extended a scoring drive and also caught a 56 yard TD in the fourth quarter.
  • MSU – Thomas had a 65 yard reception early, before Dwyer fumbled the ball into the endzone.  But more importantly he caught a pair of 23 yard receptions on seperate third down plays that extended two different scoring drives.
  • FSU – I doubt anyone has forgotten the 73 yard bomb that Thomas took to the house to tie things up at 35.
  • VT – Thomas caught a 51 yarder to set up a TD in the second quarter.
  • UVA – Thomas caught a 52 yarder to set up a FG in the first half and a 13 yarder on a third and 6 play to extend a TD drive to open the second half.
  • Vandy - Thomas caught an 8 yarder on third and 8 to extend a TD drive in the first quarter as well as a 35 yard TD snag in the second quarter.
  • Wake - Thomas caught a 12 yarder on third and 8 to extend a field goal drive in the first quarter and a 14 yarder on third and 6 to extend a TD drive in the fourth quarter.
  • Duke - Thomas snagged a 75 yard TD pass over a defensive back.
  • UGA - The 76 yard TD reception to open the third quarter, the 17 yard reception on fourth and 9 to extend a TD drive in the third quarter, and the pass interference that he drew on third and goal to extend a drive late in the game as well.  He’ll be remembered for that infamous fourth down drop, but the truth of the matter was he was responsible for the Jackets even having a chance there at the end.
  • Clemson #2 - His 70 yard TD reception on third and 10 in the third quarter is one of the highlights of the ACC championship game.

Looking at that list, which details only plays that I considered to be “impactful”, its obvious why Thomas was so crucial to our ACC title run and why we miss him now.

We don’t have anyone with the clutch, big play potential that #8 displayed.

Looking at last season, one could argue that his blocking and clutch receiving may have even surpassed Calvin Johnson’s production…especially considering he helped carry the team to a conference title and BCS bowl bid.

Do we have another receiver on the roster who can step up and become “The Man”?

Where is the next Dez White, Kelly Campbell, Jonathan Smith, Kerry Watkins, Calvin Johnson, or Demarious Thomas?

Can Stephen Hill be that guy?  If so, can he do it this season?

If noone steps up where does it leave this GT offense?

Go Jackets!

Beat the Deacs!

34 comments Add your comment


September 29th, 2010
10:25 pm

Thomas was a fabulous blocker, too, and Tech’s missing that on the edge plays. His numerous pancake blocks were as noteworthy as his big catchs.

The key here is not that Thomas was making plays that the Jackets largely are not, but how he was making them.

He won a ton of 50-50 balls.

Sure, a bunch of his catches came when he was wide open, but given the errant nature of some of Josh’s passes, and the occasional presence of DBs, the ability to “win at the ball” was hugely critical.

In sum, Demaryious went and got it. Nobody on this roster, and this includes DBs, is winning at the ball. Nobody is going and getting it.

Additionally, his sight adjustments were light years ahead of anything we’ve seen out of Tech receivers so far this season. He broke routes as dictated by coverages, and in the same way his quarterback anticipated those routes being adjusted. That’s big-league stuff that’s not happening now.

Plus, he was (and remains) a physical beast.


September 29th, 2010
10:29 pm

Hill could have taken that reverse to the house Saturday if he just ran outside, but he cut in. He needs to step up. I had high hopes for him this year.

Schultz is a turd, who cares what he thinks. He needs to take his left wing arse, back to the Left coast where he came from.

Jacket Backer

September 29th, 2010
10:55 pm

Had high hopes for Hill too, but its very clear he is not there yet. I thought we had enough coming back to take up the slack. We don’t, at least not yet. I’ll be pulling for them as always but this looks like a rebuilding year to me.

Go Jackets!

5150 P.O.A.D

September 29th, 2010
10:57 pm

Melton needs to really up and be the receiver. Hill has a lot of work to do too. But I think Melton can do it right now.

just saying

September 30th, 2010
12:45 am

any reason why Cone is never mentioned in the mix? Does Nesbitt ever throw to hiim?


September 30th, 2010
2:36 am

I had really high hopes for Stephen Hill, hes a carbon copy of A J Green (except he doesnt “sell his jersey for extra cash”). He seems to have all the tools to be great. Hes tall, an excellent leaper, very fast, and has shown nice hands. Seems to me that his biggest shortcoming thus far is his route running ability. A couple of times the last 2 weeks Josh has layed very catchable passes out to him being seemingly wide open and he has basically broke off his route or got turned around and the ball is landing right where he should have been. He could be the next great reciever at Tech but he does have some work to do. I was encouraged to see Correy Earls catch a pass, as well as Tyler Meltons TD catch. Another thing, the play action toss pass that Anthony Allen took about 50 yards, why the hell dont we try that more often? Teams are never expecting it and it works so well. I can remember Dwyer catching that same pass a couple of times during the 08 season and it always went for big gains. It would be awesome to see that play used some more in our offense, plus it might help Josh get some more confidence in his passing as well as open up the lanes for our run game. I have all the confidence in the world that CPJ will right the ship. Go Jackets!! Beat the deacons!!

You left out...

September 30th, 2010
7:08 am

…the all-time impact highlight for GT’s #8 – the dropped 4th down pass against UGA in 2009 that allowed UGA to win on historic GF @ BDS…

Resign or Resign?

September 30th, 2010
8:28 am

@you left out…

That’s mentioned in the article, DA!

True Dat

September 30th, 2010
8:43 am

Be Be was/is special. I am not sure he ran the best routes, but was going to catch anything thrown near him. Truly, a beast. Overcame a lot of adversity in his life and is doing well now. I wish he had a little brother.


September 30th, 2010
9:38 am


You are absolutely right about the Bobo/Groh comparison. Groh, just like with Grantham, is with a brand new team trying to implement a brand new defense with the previous coordinator’s recruits. Neither coach should be expected much success until at least 2 or 3 years in. Bobo has been an absolute nightmare. You know you are predictable when average fans are able to yell out what play is going to be next and are usually 90% correct. I can’t imagine Richt keeping Bobo as OC for another season. Then again, it took him 3 or 4 years just to fire Martinez. So who knows.

just saying

September 30th, 2010
10:06 am

there is so much confusion going on this season and the articles written by GT beat writers make it even worse. For example, Marcus Wright did not see playing time because he was overlooked? Don’t get it. Either he is good enough to play or he isn’t but noone should be left out of the rotation because someone was overlooked or forgotten. Say what? Defense not communicating? All this nonsense should have been taken care of long before the season started.

just saying

September 30th, 2010
10:07 am

why pass at all? Just use the receivers as blockers and forget it.


September 30th, 2010
10:40 am

Just curious, who is Johnson’s best recruit at Tech so far? Is it Allen who transferred in?


September 30th, 2010
10:48 am

You can’t really judge which recruit is “best” until their careers are played out…

But based on raw talent and the initial recruiting ranks, it would be one of the following:

Omoregie Uzzi, Stephen Hill, JC Lanier, Shawn Green, Jordan Luallen (who left after realizing how far he was buried on the depth chart)…I’m sure there are a few others who I am not thinking of.

This upcoming year so far Jabari Hunt-Days and Vad Lee look like probably the best two signings.


September 30th, 2010
11:42 am


I’d say BJ Bostic is making an impact as a true freshman. Same goes for I. Johnson, L.Young, and J. Attachou; all contributing as true froshes. But, you’re not really confused about that are you? You’re just a doggy trying to work in a subtle dig. Run on back to your yard now and focus on beating the worst team in the Big 12.


September 30th, 2010
12:11 pm

gt crushed wake this week 45-7 mark it down


September 30th, 2010
12:12 pm

gt need to get bostic more touches he and orwin smith will be our next 2 best a- backs , i think bostic will be a bigtime player in the future


September 30th, 2010
12:37 pm

Forgot about Bostic…he looks great. I want to see him and Orwin Smith both get a lot more PT…

Isaiah has made some freshman mistakes, but he looks like he’s gonna be a great one for us.


September 30th, 2010
1:39 pm

@ Systemic,

The worst team in the Big 12 is actually Kansas, Einstein. Can’t believe you set yourself up for that one!! Then again, Tech fans have never been accused of being intelligent.


September 30th, 2010
1:48 pm

I thought the same thing, actually…

Although to be fair, at the end of the year I believe Iowa State will be cemented as the worst team in the Big 12.

Kansas and Colorado are also both really bad.

The Big 12 is pretty weak in general…Texas and Oklahoma both look shaky (but are both good teams) and Nebraska looks really good. Past that, I don’t see anyone else of note.


September 30th, 2010
2:00 pm

RambleOn84 –

I think Nebraska is the only real deal out of that joke of a conference. Texas got destroyed last weekend by a horrible UCLA team in Texas, and Oklahoma has squeaked out a couple of wins and may very well lose to Texas this weekend. Their only other real hope is Oklahoma St. who has looked good so far, but hasn’t played anybody. If Kansas does finish with a better record than Colorado it’s only because they avoided both Texas and OK this year.

Systemic just set that one up on the tee. I had to blast it out of the yard ;)


September 30th, 2010
2:06 pm

I just think both Kansas and Colorado are bad…Iowa State is most likely the worst of the three, though.


September 30th, 2010
2:26 pm

Hey, that’s what I said at


Thanks for noticing.


September 30th, 2010
4:36 pm

“gt crushed wake this week 45-7″

Does joeygt know something that we don’t? ;)



September 30th, 2010
5:58 pm

I’ve got nothing against Groh, but forcing the 3-4 onto a team that doesn’t have the personnel doesn’t make sense for a coach who might last a couple of years and then he’s gone.


October 1st, 2010
3:45 am

*** Nesbitt for Heismen ***

(((( 45 – 42 ))))

Marvin Dooner

October 1st, 2010
8:06 am

Groh is one of the best coaches around when it comes to defense. Everybody needs to chill out and let the man do his thing. Our players are smart or they wouldn’t be at GT. Look what they take over at UGA…..Thugs. Nesbitt for Heisman!!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Sick of the trolling

October 1st, 2010
10:12 am

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Sick of babies

October 1st, 2010
12:15 pm

@ sick of the trolling –

Then start your own website and run it as you see fit. Personally I’m tired of grown men whining and crying like they are children. Grow up.


October 1st, 2010
12:16 pm

I think you are just holding out hope that Colorado is just as poor as Kansas for your own bias. Am I wrong?

Jack Quick

October 1st, 2010
1:53 pm

Dumb delusional dawgs gonna be buffalo patties this weekend.

Shaybo Jaw

October 1st, 2010
6:47 pm

Until GT signs a QB in the mold of Joe Ham, Russel Wilson, Goose Godsey, etc they will only be somewhat revelent in a weak ACC. Hopefully Days or Lee will fill the bill.

Damon Evans

October 1st, 2010
11:08 pm

Red panties are flying from the sky!


October 2nd, 2010
2:05 pm

tech and georgia both get wins this week…tech better win the next 3 to get to 5-2, because the schedule gets tough after that…good luck to both of the home teams…