Big Ten Expansion and Georgia Tech

Blogs and message boards have been lit up this past week with reports that the Big Ten was going to invite Notre Dame, Nebraska, Missouri, and Rutgers.  Most of the interest and debate on the GT boards has revolved around a couple of topics…

The Potential Impact on the ACC

The general concensus seems to be that the SEC will not stand by idly while the Big Ten expands and becomes a new super conference complete with its own television network.  While the SEC will always have a strangle hold on southern football, an expanded Big Ten, with its own TV outlet, would very likely eclipse the SEC on the national level…especially when you consider the available TV and print media markets involved.

So who would the SEC grab in order to get to 16 teams and compete?

Many people throw out Texas, TAMU, Clemson, and Florida State.  The problem there is that its very unlikely that the Longhorns would be willing to leave the pro-rated revenue sharing of the Big 12 in order to get an even cut in the SEC while also increasing their schedule difficulty.  The SEC, quite honestly, just doesn’t offer enough to a program like Texas.  And without Texas, you don’t get TAMU.

That leaves Clemson and FSU…plus two more.  So who else do you look at?

What about FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech?

FSU still has some cachet left from their run of success in the ’90s and Jimbo Fisher has SEC roots. Clemson is readily acknowledged as the most SEC-like program in the ACC and has old rivalry ties to UGA.  Virginia Tech is a quality program that plays physical defense and national exposure.  And Georgia Tech was a charter member of the SEC with southern roots and old rivalries that could be  renewed with teams like Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee…not to mention UGA.

This would effectively castrate the ACC from a football perspective…

The Best Result for GT

Many people on the message boards seem to think that the Jackets would be included in the list of programs the SEC would want.  The problem is that its not a given.  There is no guarantee that the SEC wouldn’t go after a list like FSU, Miami, WVU, and VT.  That would lock down the state of Florida while adding a more northern presence with solid programs like WVU and VT.  The SEC could pass on teams like Clemson and Georgia Tech with the rationale that they already have enough presence in GA and SC by way of UGA and the Gamecocks.  (GT fans have to admit that Atlanta is an SEC town most days of the week, with alumns from MANY SEC schools already in place…)

This is where the really interesting wrinkle enters the equation…

There are actually eleven teams in the Big Ten and their reported list of invitees makes Notre Dame the wild card.

If ND declines conference affiliation then the Big Ten can still take Nebraska, Missouri, and Rutgers to get to 14 teams.  That would allow two seven team divisions.  They’d be done.

But if ND accepted the invitation then the Big Ten would be sitting at 15…which might result in the need for one more team in order to get to 16.

And…bear with me here…Georgia Tech would be a very good candidate for that 16th slot for a couple of reasons.

1) Georgia Tech just joined the American Association of Universities.  The AAU is an exclusive list of research institutes and membership is by invite only.  There are only 63 AAU members unless I am mistaken.  All are serious academic schools with real research functions.

2) Every team in the Big Ten is an AAU member.  Membership appears to be predicated by inclusion in the AAU.  Rutgers, Nebraska, and Missouri are AAU members and Notre Dame has an unassailable academic reputation as well.  GT would be a exceptional academic fit for the Big Ten.

3) Georgia Tech would provide an “in” to the Atlanta television market, which would be very attractive to the Big Ten television network.

4) Georgia Tech just won the ACC title and played in a BCS bowl, providing football credentials that could be sold during a bid to pull the Jackets into the Big Ten as a competitor.  (The Jackets would also contribute mightily in basketball and baseball as well…)

Its All Very Interesting…

Its obvious that there are strong arguments to support Tech’s inclusion in either an expanded SEC or Big Ten.

Its great debate fodder and I’ve read some really fun message board threads the past few days as Tech fans lobby for one direction or the other.

And at the end of the day there is one central factor that everyone agrees on…

If the Big Ten and SEC expand, GT needs to be involved with one or the other.  We cannot sit idly by while the ACC gets left in the dust and relegated to a basketball conference with a few football leftovers playing a diminished schedule.

I personally think the Big Ten is the best fit for Georgia Tech academically and financially but the allure of a return to our SEC roots is a huge factor as well.

Should be an interesting Summer!

Go Jackets!

233 comments Add your comment

Billy

May 13th, 2010
9:27 am

just don’t be on the outside looking in

Illini Chuckles

May 13th, 2010
9:31 am

As an illini fan, I think GT would be a great fit in many ways with the Big 10 schools.

Randy CPA, MBA, CCP

nickj0321

May 13th, 2010
9:38 am

the slow 11????

GT 4 LIFE

May 13th, 2010
9:46 am

THE BIG TEN IS NOT AN OPTION FOR OUR PROGRAM. TRAVELING WOULD BE AN ISSUE AS WE ARE IN THE SOUTH AND HOW MANY OF OUR FANS WILL TRAVEL EVERY WEEKEND TO THOSE SCHOOLS UP NORTH? NOT MANY…. WHAT WILL OUR BASEBALL PROGRAM DO? BIG TEN? GT WILL STAY IN THE ACC BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BIG TEN, EVEN IF THE ACC IS RAVAGED. I LAUGH WHEN PEOPLE MENTION THE BIG TEN AS IF TECH MAY REALLY JOIN THAT CONFERENCE. TECH DOESN’T TRAVEL THAT GREAT ALREADY AND HAVE ALUMNI SPREAD ALL OVER THE U.S AND THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER TAKING IMPORTANT JOBS AND STARTING THEIR CAREERS. THE TRAVEL PORTION OF THE BIG TEN IS JUST A KILLER, AND THIS WILL TRUMP EVERYTHING. THE SEC WILL WANT TECH OVER CLEMSON, MY GOD WE HAVE OWNED THEM 5 OF THE LAST 6 TIMES AND WHO IS THE DEFENDING ACC CHAMPIONS AGAIN? THIS IS COMMON SENSE, TECH WILL BE IN THE SEC IF THE BIG TEN MAKES THE MOVES FIRST. BANK ON IT!!!

Withacy

May 13th, 2010
9:57 am

Why would the SEC want GT? They already HAVE Georgia. If they want to compete with the expanded Big Ten, they’re going to have to expand their reach, not pick up more schools in areas they already feel they own.

Maybe the Big Ten would be as welcome in Atlanta as Sherman, but as a Buckeye living in exile, that kind of appeals to me. Besides, academically, GT is WAY overqualified for the SEC.

Tech to the Big Ten

May 13th, 2010
9:58 am

I would rather see Tech in the Big Ten as opposed to the SEC. The Big Ten and SEC are very different conferences, as you have just described. Academics has not been the priority for the SEC for decades, and I dont think I will see this change during my life. Tech is a much better fit for the Big Ten… and, the Big Ten is a better overall conference than the SEC. (Maybe not in football, but overall) ..

dawgfan

May 13th, 2010
10:00 am

LMAO!!! Georgia Tech in the Big 10? What on earth are you smoking? You Techies whine about every excuse imaginable. I can only imagine how bad it would be if you had to go tracking north to Ohio and Pennsylvania for games. This makes absolutely zero sense Boggs. Can you Techies put down the calculators for 2 seconds and use a little common sense? Georgia Tech is too far away geographically from Big 10 schools. Like a Georgia Tech win in a major bowl game, the chances of this happening are slim to nil.

I think the Techies are getting a little nervous about what their fate would be if all this super conference business goes down and they aren’t invited to the party. You should be. Georgia Tech football is not attractive to the SEC. You have horrible fans who don’t travel and rarely sell out home games in a small stadium. So what’s left? The Big 10? LMAO. See above. I think a watered down Big East or even Conference USA is the most you could hope for. Don’t get mad Techies. You bring this on yourselves. Maybe you should think about leaving the empty seat costumes that you usually where to games at home sometimes.

Georgia Tech football = 2013 Conference USA Champions. I can see it now. Look on the brightside Techies. At least you wouldn’t have to go to a BCS bowl and humiliate yourselves.

Good day.

What???

May 13th, 2010
10:01 am

this idea sounds completely illogical in so many ways

Dan

May 13th, 2010
10:05 am

If the SEC expands and doesn’t get the Texas schools, then GT is likely going to be one of their targets. The SEC can’t get VT (and likely doesn’t even want them; heck the ACC didn’t even want them) without taking UVA too. The same political problem exists for the North Carolina schools, and they wouldn’t ever leave the ACC anyway. Therefore, if the SEC goes to 16, it’s difficult to think of four schools other than FSU, Miami, Climpson, and Tech.

Withacy

May 13th, 2010
10:12 am

Why would the Big Ten want Georgia Tech? For the same reason they’re interested in Rutgers. It’s a numbers thing.

Atlanta is the 8th largest television market in the country. Right now I pay for a sports package on Comcast to get the Big Ten Network – and the BTN gets about 10 cents for every subscriber (or so I’ve heard). If Georgia Tech joins the Big Ten, chances are that the BTN becomes a basic cable network here in Atlanta. And according to what I’ve read, the BTN gets about 70 cents for EVERY cable subscriber – whether they ever watch the network or not. That’s a WHOLE LOT of money.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2010
10:12 am

Went to the Notre Dame game a few years back. I had a good time, but I will not spend the money in this economy to travel to games up north. Sorry ain’t going to happen. I so want to sit in Michagan in November. HAHAHAHAH HELL NO.

SEC needing FACE LIFT

May 13th, 2010
10:13 am

yep Dan your right but I wonder why in the world does the SEC keep perennial losers year after year in the conference as opposed to kicking them out…Ms, Ms St, Ky, Vandy to name a few. The SEC needs a FACE LIFT and maybe it is time.

Dan

May 13th, 2010
10:17 am

There are only so many wins to go around. Plus, those schools have to compete with schools with built-in advantages. Plus, it’s just not good business to kick schools out like that.

RU ready

May 13th, 2010
10:22 am

“This would effectively castrate the ACC from a football perspective…”
It could not happen to a more deserving bunch.
The ACC folks had no problem pillaging the Big East.
Well, I hope these next shifts in alignment ruin the ACC (by the way, has become an awful football conference).
I would have been very happy to have Rutgers stay in the Big east had the ACC not poached 3 of its members.
How do you think BC alumni like being in the ACC; just check out their attendance. Not to mention missing the best college sporting event (Big East Tournament) in New York City; a hub for BC alumni.
Laughable that now you’re worried about your poor GT sports. Maybe the Sun Belt will take you if you ask nicely. If the ACC is such a great conference, way is GT, Maryland, Florida State and Clemson all sending flowers to other conferences? Ha-ha. I am laughing like Max Cady in the movie theatre (De Niro in Cape Fear).

ST SIMON

May 13th, 2010
10:46 am

UGA 30 – GT 24!!!!!!!!!!!
UGA 73 – GT 66!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

WE RUN THIS STATE!!!!

CHAMPS

May 13th, 2010
10:53 am

Why the SEC is not expanding (They don’t want you to know this):

1. SEC does not want to expand, and cannot afford to expand for that matter. They are locked in for FIFTEEN LONG YEARS with ESPN at a fixed rate. Expansion means that the denominator gets bigger while the numerator does not. That equals less money for you SEC math majors out there.

2. The SEC contract looks so inflated in this new economic environment. ESPN’s advertising revenue is not growing…they can’t afford to expand the contract to a bigger SEC.

3. Any new teams offered membership would have to take a lesser payout for several years (just like BC, VT, and the U when they joined the ACC) so that older members can minimize their pay cut.

4. Texas ain’t coming. Texas ain’t even listening. That’s like saying Alabama will join the Big Ten — makes no sense. History means something.

5. Slive doesn’t realize that in terms of academics, the SEC is a pariah conference.

T3

May 13th, 2010
11:01 am

1. Tx, TxAm, OK, OKSt literally OWN the Big12 cash register.
Dont think these 4 will be joining the SEC.

2. No way in Hell Florida will accept letting FSU in, without REQUIRING GT be let in. Florida isnt gonna tolerate THEIR in-state rival be added, without requiring UGA to also add THEIR in-state rival.

3. As for Miami, the ONLY thing UF & FSU agree on is
they both DESPISE Miami. Just dont see Miami be added.

4. Andy Katz of ESPN recently “floated” the idea that the Big10 is also interested in Maryland, GT, and Vandy. 3 BIG TV markets. And, in case no one noticed, there is a HUGE number of Big10 alums living in Atlanta.

The Big10 could conceivably add: GT, VT, UVA, MD.
UVA, GT, and MD are all AAU schools, and VT is a well-regarded Engineering school. This would bring key big TV markets,
in WashDC-Northern Virginia, and Atlanta.
It might also open a brand new southern channel of recruiting
for Big10 schools.

A “possible” scanrio for the SEC would look like this:
Add FSU, GT, Clemson, and Houston or SMU. Both reasonably good school choices. SMU would bring the Dallas TV market. Houston would bring their TV market. SMU is smaller, Houston is the 3rd largest university in Texas, behind only U-Texas and TxAM.

Adding Houston would bring in a storied program with a long history.
New Orleans is closer to Houston, than to Atlanta. Would add SEC access to Houston TV market. Houston aint gettin any love from the Big12. It would give SEC a brand new recruting pipeline into state of Texas.
Afterall, Ark and LSU both get 80% of all their recruits form the state of TExas, and Ole Miss gets a bunch from there as well.

Houston looks like a “win-win” option.

DawgFan

May 13th, 2010
11:07 am

I would rather see TCU added to the SEC before Houston or SMU. Virginia Tech and Clemson would make goo additions to the SEC East, in this hypothetical scenario.

So if we have an SEC East comprised of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vandy, Kentucky, Clemson, and VaTech, and an SEC West of Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Arkansas and TCU, then we need one more team in the West. I think OK State is the most likely Big XII member to jump ship, but I don’t see them fitting into the SEC style. I really think you might see a push for someone like South Florida. Of course, that means one of the East teams has to go West, and the most likely candidate, geographically speaking, would be either Vandy or Kentucky.

Don't Wait

May 13th, 2010
11:17 am

Why shouldn’t the ACC be proactive and start gutting the Big East before anyone else does? I think the ACC should invite Pitt and UConn and maybe Syracuse and WVU. That way the ACC could still say it is the best BBall conference, it would get NY and some Boston TV markets and avoid being plundered by Big Ten or SEC.

Art Lewis

May 13th, 2010
11:20 am

Georgia Tech to Big 10 would be a bad, bad move for both GT and B10. Regardless of all the talk about “new markets”, “number of cable subscribers” etc. any conference affiliation still must make sense both culturally and geographically. One only has to look at the situation that Boston College and the ACC find themselves in. Fan interest in the BC program is declining, the ACC is saddled with a member whose fans do not travel, BC has no natural rivals to generate regional or national interest, travel is a headache. It’s just a bad fit all around though you would never get either party to admit to it. GT to Big 10 would produce the same type situation.

dawgfan

May 13th, 2010
11:21 am

Of course the SEC doesn’t WANT to expand you nimrod. Its the Big 10’s idea, not the SEC’s. If they do it the SEC will have to do it. Its a less than ideal scenario but if it goes down the SEC will survive and be just as popular as ever. Good luck in the 2013 Conference USA Chamionship Game.

Cackalacka

May 13th, 2010
11:22 am

Clemson would be a great fit for the SEC, they’ve got the required illiteracy rate. I’ve always maintained that NCSU would be a good fit for the SEC if they dropped their engineering program and added an athletic program.

Maybe I’m spoiled by a guaranteed away-game up here in NC, but the thought of flying to Michigan or Wisconsin for an away-game in November? You’ve got to be nuts.

Cackalacka

May 13th, 2010
11:24 am

I agree with Art; I shook my head when BC got plundered by the ACC. Syracuse would have been a much more solid fit. The outcome of the BC poaching was predictable.

Withacy

May 13th, 2010
11:33 am

I wouldn’t worry about flying to Ann Arbor or Columbus or, frankly, most of the other schools for away games. They’re always sold out, and the alotment of “away team” tickets are usually taken by local boosters.

And frankly, hearing y’all whine about good “Football Weather” is kind of pathetic.

T3

May 13th, 2010
11:33 am

TCU has 9000 undergrads.
U-Houston has 30,000 undergrads.

Vandy has 7000 undergrads.
Florida has 50,000 undergrads
UGA has 34,000 undergrads
Tenn has 30,000 undergrads
LSU has 28,000 undergrads.

Houston is the 4th largest city in the US.
Houston is THE LARGEST city in Texas.
Only New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago are larger than Houston.

Atlanta is the 33rd largest city.

Houston’s TV market is M-A-S-S-I-V-E.

Houston would be the P-E-R-F-E-C-T addition for the SEC.

And, I would be VERY surprised if the SEC/ESPN contract did not have options in it to allow amendments to revenue genration and payouts if the SEC expanded.

ACC 5.0

May 13th, 2010
11:44 am

ACC North
BC
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers

ACC Central
Maryland
Virginia
VT
(WV or Pitt)

ACC Carolinas
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake

ACC South
Clemson
GT
Florida State
Miami

UGA to the Big Ten

May 13th, 2010
11:47 am

Just kidding! Big Ten has academic standards.

Ken

May 13th, 2010
11:49 am

Two words for the idea on GT in the Big Ten, Travel Expenses. GT would not play a team that is anywhere near them. This idea would be so cost prohibitive that GT may have to cut sports programs just to afford it.

FSU would be a great addition to the SEC as would Miami. Miami brings a large TV market to the equation along with more football national championships than UGA and Tech combined.
Clemson wouldn’t be a good fit since they are more of an afterthought in the ACC.

I say add FSU and Miami and call it a wrap.

T3

May 13th, 2010
11:54 am

ACC 5.0:

Good set-up.

If ACC went to 16, that would definitley be the best alignment.

Maybe simply got with an ACC-North and ACC-South divisions.
Would make much more sense than the current alignment.

Draw the line at the North Carolina/Virginia border.
North & South of that line.

John

May 13th, 2010
11:55 am

From a travel perspective the BIG 10 would not be any worse than Tech has now. Whats the difference in flying to BC, Maryland, and Miami and flying to Michigan, Ohio state, Penn State.

Withacy

May 13th, 2010
11:55 am

GT would get at least $10 million more A YEAR than they’re getting now as their share of the TV revinue. If they can’t travel on that kind of money, they’re doing something wrong.

And since they’d be in the Big 10 East, they probably wouldn’t have to fly any further than Ann Arbor or East Lansing. Are they really farther away than BC? Columbus & Indianapolis are less than 600 miles away – a 90 minute flight. Miami is farther away than that.

T3

May 13th, 2010
11:59 am

Ken:

If the Big10 is “even” considering GT, that means they are also probably considering other ACC teams, like MD, VT, and UVA. Adding those 3 along with GT makes it slightly more feasible.

T3

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

ACC shold try to add Pitt and/or WV, Syracuse and UConn.

I think its “Do or Die” time for the ACC. and it HAS to be 16.

There HAS to be (2) 8-team divisions. 14 wont do it.

Its 16 or bust.

T3

May 13th, 2010
12:06 pm

16 out of some combo of the following:
Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn, Pitt, WV, Cincy

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

I like anything that would keep College Football from making the season LONGER and risking Players chance to graduate and Play for THEIR OWN money. Fewer worthless Bowls is good. I watch Pac-10 games, Big 12 games, but I watch SEC and ACC games more. If GT goes north do you really think I am going to buy products advertised during the game that I can’t drive to the store and buy? HAHAHA NO. EAT DINNER AT STATS in Atlanta and Buy Ice Creme from the Penn State Creamery. HAHAHA how can I do Both? This Southerner will spend one weekend in November to see the stadiums and never travel North again. I see so many So. Carolina fans headed to TEXAS every other year. NOT a CHANCE.

The Producer

May 13th, 2010
12:50 pm

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

Outside Observer

May 13th, 2010
12:56 pm

ACC 5.0, the only problem with your divisional alignments is that you are putting four of the five best football programs in the same division. The “ACC North” division would be a complete joke. It is kind of like when they made the divisional alignments for the ACC a few years ago. Geographically, Miami, GT, Clemson, FSU, NC, Duke would be in one with Maryland, BC, VT, Wake, NCST, Virginia in the other (all of the tobacco road teams could be swapped of course). Instead of giving VT a cakewalk to the ACC championship every year( like Florida now has, unless Tennessee surprises a few people), they made it so that Clemson and FSU would fight it out (although I doubt anyone expected Wake and BC to win before either of the aforementioned schools did) and Miami and VT could continue their Big East Rivalry, with GT bringing a new competitor to the table. The thoughts of basketball season with that type of alignment would be unreal though. Personally, I am hoping expansion doesn’t happen. I like things the way they are.

wesleywhatwhat

May 13th, 2010
1:03 pm

can the ACC trade miami to the SEC for kentucky?

and trade BC back to the big east for pitt or west virginia while we are at it.

IL Jacket

May 13th, 2010
1:40 pm

Great analysis, Chris. Withacy & T3 have it right. The Big Ten is being very shrewd and thinking strategically about expansion. Rutgers and UConn would bookend the lucrative metro NY market, Maryland would bring DC/Northern Virginia and Tech Atlanta. Not only do you add large numbers of new subscribers to the BTN, but they are also high value from a demographic perspective. It would put a lot of pressure on the other conferences, lengthening their current $5-6 Million lead per institution.
The SEC would be in a difficult position. The only gamechanger for them would be Texas and for the reasons Chris has documented that is not going to happen. Sure. The SEC could add Clemson, FSU and VT, but that doesn’t get them anything. More eyeballs perhaps, but they would ve
low value subscribers that broadcasters are not really interested in.
The only way expansion could play out differently would be
if ND agrees to join the Big Ten. Then they could stop at 12 and have the championship game in football that they covet. ND, however, does not seem to have any interest in that scenario on the current environment.

Ramblin Wrecker

May 13th, 2010
1:40 pm

Two points about GT potentially joining the Big Ten super conference:

7 out of 11 of the current Big Ten’s schools are within the same distance from GT as Miami (and way closer than fellow ACC team, Boston College). Plus GT is near the biggest airport hub in the country. So the notion that there would be some huge travel restriction on the fans is stupid. They don’t travel in droves anyway.

And with the potential payout from joining the Big Ten being around $20 million or more a year, I think Dan Radakovich and the GT brass should be willing to think outside the box.

But that’s only if the SEC isn’t interested. They should seek the SEC first and then the Big Ten second. But staying in the ACC is not going to be a good move.

Check those numbers

May 13th, 2010
1:42 pm

Hey T3 – not sure where you get those city size numbers, but you must be looking at population inside the city limits.

In terms of “metro area” polulation (read TV market), Atlanta and Houston are neck-and-neck:


9) Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX – 5,641,077
10) Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL – 5,478,667

http://geography.about.com/od/lists/a/csa2005.htm

MB

May 13th, 2010
1:43 pm

I believe the Big 10 bylaws have a stipulation that any expanded school must come from a state that shares a border with a current state of the Big 10. Is this not the case?

DrewinFL

May 13th, 2010
1:44 pm

GT would be a good fit in the B10 but I just don’t see it.
Sure, GT could get left behind if an expanded SEC goes after TX,TXAM, OU, OSU (and I don’t see that either) because of FSU and Miami.

Check those numbers

May 13th, 2010
1:45 pm

here are actual TV market stats:


8 Atlanta, GA 2,387,520
9 Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) 2,335,040
10 Houston, TX 2,123,460 1.849

http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/US_HH_by_DMA.asp

Withacy

May 13th, 2010
1:57 pm

MB – no, it isn’t. A common misconception – or just wishful thinking by those who are worried about the Big Ten raiding. Up until now, the States have been touching, but it’s not a rule.

Remember, the Big Ten is super old, so there was a reason to have them clustered. Penn State joined relatively recently (by Big Ten standards) – MSU joined in the 50’s, the rest joined before the first World War! You had to take a train to games in those days. Things have changed a lot, so now they can spread out a bit. For the right schools.

Lucas

May 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

It is amazing how football is valued compared to other college sports. While the ACC may not be the best football conference, it is the best conference for baseball, basketball and soccer. The ACC also makes a great case for being the best BCS conference academically. I hope that the ACC can hang on to a school like Georgia Tech, and maintain its structure despite national conference realignment.

collegeballfan

May 13th, 2010
2:17 pm

Notre Dame is not going to join a conference for football.

Why would the SEC expand to 14 to keep up with the Big 10 going to 14, or even 16? They have the best football conference in the country. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Texas ain’t going nowhere. They sit on the biggest gold mine in college football.

Travel to Big 10 games by visiting team fans is a myth. Home schools do not give a meaningful allotment of tickets to visitors.

Personally I would love to see Big 10 teams at Grant Field. But the lack of “natural” and/or traditional rivalries would make it a bust.

Now UK would be a natural fit for the Big 10; Kentucky borders three Big 10 states. And the Big 10 would probably sweeten the pot just to get UK basketball into the Big 10.

In the Know

May 13th, 2010
2:17 pm

Ramblin wrecker, you still don’t get it! Tech fans do travel to the games in the REGION….You can change SOME to NONE by going up to the great lakes region and up north that far! NOBODY will be going, and you can forget it. It’s like putting a program like utah in the ACC.. Have you seen the economy lately either? It isn’t going to be getting any better any time soon and i’m telling you that GT will not be headed to big ten. They will be in the sec as they used to be. GT has more sec titles than ugay had when both were in the sec, and that trend will continue when ugay starts getting whipped in division games. Throw in fsu,miami and clemson, and ugay will never win another division title. That football program is headed into the toilet. GT will blow up in the sec, and this only plays to the strength of CPJ and recruiting as long as he keeps winning as he has the first to two years. SEC makes the most sense and it will happen. Georgia fans don’t want tech in the acc for good reason, because back when they were in the sec, georgia got the hell beat out of them by tech. ( see that nice long current losing streak that ugay owns in the series and the 4 national championships as evidence)!! Tech was also the team to win all 4 major bowls back in there sec days as well. Alot more tradition than even ugay. Hell,kick ugay out and put them in conference usa. They can’t seem to stay ranked anymore much like teams in conference usa. A perfect fit for the mutts.

T3

May 13th, 2010
2:20 pm

Hat tip on the TV numbers.

I was using the basic population stats at wikipedia.

Adding U-Houston would definitely open up the Houston TV market for the SEC, and perhaps options in another city or two, like Dallas and San Antonio.

Gerald McFry

May 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

dawgfan, you’re an idiot. How long has it been since you’ve even won your own conference? Tech would be a good addition to the SEC. I loved the rivalries with Auburn, Tennessee and Alabama. It’s a part of the Southern tradition of American College Football! I’d love for us to be able to play in the SEC again! It’s been a little while since we beat everybody on our SEC schedule won the SEC Championship! I think the last one we won, we also won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOO!!! CAN’T WAIT FOR US TO BE BACK IN THE SEC AND START THE TRADITION AGAIN!!!

Good Afternoon!