Idle Ramblings While Watching Army / Navy

I’m watching Army vs Navy and I’m pulling for the guys from West Point.  I know Coach Johnson came to us from Navy, but I have to pull for Army due to family connections now.

All in all, its fun to watch a couple of teams run the triple option against each other.  Unfortunately its looking like Army is running out of steam.  The Middies are pulling ahead now after trailing Army for most of the game.  Ricky Dobbs just set the NCAA quarterback rushing TD record.  That’s pretty impressive.

Quick thoughts on a few things…

The Heisman Trophy

I think Suh and Gerhart are obviously the two best players in the country.  They should lead the voting if the people casting ballots stick to the spirit of the award and don’t let it turn into the popularity contest that has tarnished the award over the past 5-10 years.

Lets look at a snippet of the Mission Statement on the Heisman Trophy website…

The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.

Now…I don’t see anything there that says, “the best player on the best team in the country.”  So I don’t see any reason why the winning candidate has to come from Alabama or Texas.

If Ingram (not even the best runningback in the country) or McCoy (not even the best QB in the country) take the award home over Suh or Gerhart it will be a travesty and another nail in the coffin for the Heisman Trophy.

Cincy & Notre Dame

I really thought the Bearcats might have had a chance to give Florida a game…considering the Gators have struggled on offense all season and may be in a funk after getting pantsed by Bama.

Kelly leaving the team for Notre Dame makes this probably the least compelling BCS match up outside of maybe the TCU vs Boise State game.  I just don’t see that team holding it together with their coach jumping ship.  It also remains to be seen how many assistants Kelly may take with him…

Orange Bowl Ticket Sales

Its expected that Iowa will sell out their allotment and bring a ton of fans to Miami.  They have a history of traveling well.

Georgia Tech ticket sales are moving briskly considering a large portion of the GT fanbase just returned from Tampa and the ACC championship game.

Personally, I won’t be able to make the Orange Bowl.  I have some crucial work timelines which begin January 4th, right after the holidays are over.

Georgia Tech fans will buy out the GT allotment and will travel to this game even though its effectively the second bowl game in a month for the fanbase.  Unlike the Iowa folks, GT followers won’t have the luxury of saving up all of their road game budget and vacation time for one big trip.  We’ll have to do it twice…

Bowls After January 1st…

Speaking of Orange Bowl tickets…what in “hades” is up with all these bowls that are popping up after January 1st?

The following bowls are being played on January 2…

  • The International Bowl
  • The Papajohns.com Bowl
  • The Cotton Bowl
  • The Liberty Bowl
  • The Alamo Bowl

Seriously?  What’s the point of this?

Then we look at the remaining BCS Bowls…

  • The Fiesta on Monday January 4
  • The Orange on Tuesday January 5
  • The BCS Championship on Thursday January 7

How many fans, in this economy, can afford to travel to a bowl game in the middle of the week and take time off from work?

Its obvious that TV revenue is more important than scheduling games that can be attended by fans of the programs.

I understand it…but I think it stinks…

102 comments Add your comment

Milton

December 12th, 2009
6:06 pm

Go Navy. CPJ left a nice legacy for the middies!

GT Fan.

December 12th, 2009
6:07 pm

Not Disappointed

December 12th, 2009
6:24 pm

Dear Santa, I just want an Orange Bowl win for Christmas!

Ramblin Wreck All!

Joe

December 12th, 2009
6:32 pm

Your analysis if flawed. If you’re a GREAT player you find the way to help your team win. There is no way a player from a team with 4 losses should be considered. If that’s the case there is thousands of players that should be finalist. Losing records open up a flood gate for teams with great players. There has to be a standard to choose by. Break down Suh of Nebraska and see how he did in the games before Texas. Look at the amount of carries Gerhart had and the competition level. All 5 players are worthy and great players, it’s the amount of votes that count. The media is the most bias source of votes and shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The general public should be allowed to choose the Heisman winner. Look what they did with the Presidential election last year, the media sent a buffoon into the White House. Trashing the other 4 players to make your own look better is stupid. McCoy-worthy, Ingram=worthy,Suh=worthy, Gerhart=worthy, Tebow=worthy. All are fine candidates and will make a great winner. Stop bashing and promoting your own bias cchoices please AJC

superDawg

December 12th, 2009
6:48 pm

Merry Christmas tek 30-24 gift wrapped.

ACC Champ

December 12th, 2009
6:52 pm

The Heisman Trophy has become a popularity contest. It is a total shame that CJ Spiller was not even invited. I dont care how many losses Clemson had. He is a special player.

Papa

December 12th, 2009
7:03 pm

Tough for the Cadets … son is Army in Iraq. Heisman has slipped like the bowls, pandering to sponsorship. Cincy-ND – really rambling for filler there. We’ll be well represented in Miami – and I hope for a proper showing from the players. Re: bowls — see earlier Heisman reference.
Hey, stupidDawg … thank you. It’s the thought that counts. Enjoy Shreveport. THWG

Delbert D.

December 12th, 2009
7:28 pm

McCoy or Ingram would be ho-hum typical Heisman winners. Suh is a special player. Gerhart is the best dragging bodies, power runner I can recall since Jim Brown.

Hawkeye1

December 12th, 2009
7:28 pm

Chris, Boise St. vs TCU is way more compelling than a pretty insignificant Orange Bowl. TCU is a better football team than Georgia Tech and probably should be playing GT. It is obvious that the BCS powers that be did not want a TCU from a non-BCS conference beating the hell out of GT from the ACC. I realize you are loyal to your team but the Orange Bowl will be the least attended and least watched of the BCS bowls. With a month to prepare Iowa’s #11 defense will stop your TO. Tech is nowhere near physical enough to beat Iowa. They got manhandled and out manned by a 5 loss UGA team. GT is not near man enough for Iowa.

Delbert D.

December 12th, 2009
7:36 pm

“TCU is a better football team than Georgia Tech and probably should be playing GT.”

TCU may be a better team than Georgia Tech. I believe they probably are. The reason for TCU playing Boise State instead of playing in the Orange Bowl is that The BCS collaborators could not stand the embarrassment of Boise State *and* TCU both finishing unbeaten and being ranked by polls or rating systems as the #1 team in the couintry.

Delbert D.

December 12th, 2009
7:43 pm

Iowa’s offense kept opponents in the game. Their only games over 30 points were Iowa State (35-3) and Indiana (45-24). Northern Iowa was a 17-16 win, and Arkansas State was 27-24. Those teams played them as well as Big-10 opponents, except for Indiana and Minnesota (12-0 game). Overall they averaged scoring 23.1 ppg. They scored 10 in the loss to Northwestern.

I watched 2 of their games, plus part of a 3rd, and they were thrillers. Should be an interesting matchup vs. Ga. Tech.

Hawkeye1

December 12th, 2009
7:46 pm

#

2. Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 4, Phoenix, 8 p.m., FOX
Boise State vs. TCU

# Three Reasons To Watch This Bowl: 1) Really, this might be the national championship game. These two are playing better than the Longhorns and the Tide. 2) These might be the two most complete teams in America. TCU leads the nation in defense and is fourth in offense and first in kickoff returns. Boise State is No. 1 in scoring offense, 13th in total defense and ninth in punting. 3) Jerry Hughes and the TCU pass rush vs. Boise State’s offensive line that has allowed the fewest number of sacks in America.
# And Why You Should Spend Your Time Roasting Your Chestnuts: We’re not going to learn much. The winner will have beaten a non-BCS team, while the loser will have lost to a non-BCS team. Last year’s Poinsettia Bowl wasn’t that entertaining.
# Three Names To Drop That’ll Make The Perky Girl In Accounting Want To Take You Into The Storeroom During The Holiday Party For Smooches: 1) Jeremy Kerley, WR/PR TCU, 2) Ryan Winterswyk, DE Boise State, 3) Daryl Washington, LB TCU
# First-Thought Pick That Might Change In The Next Few Days On A Whim: TCU 20 … Boise State 17

Exactly Delbert D. “The winner will have beaten a non-BCS team, while the loser will have lost to a non-BCS team” is the key statement in the above blurb. That is exactly why they matched Boise and TCU. TCU with their Defense, Offense, and Special Teams would have been the nightmare matchup for GT and BSU would give UF or Cincy all they could handle.

Delbert D.

December 12th, 2009
8:10 pm

Has anbody heard if Phil Smith is expected to be back for the Bowl?

dagnabit

December 12th, 2009
8:24 pm

Well; I guess we’ll never know now.

Flowery Branch Yellow Jacket

December 12th, 2009
10:00 pm

One of the more common reasons stated for the lack of a playoff system is that it will cause the season to drag on too long. However, if you look at the bowl schedule, we’re allowing the networks to do just that. Personally, I would like to see ALL of the bowl games completed by January 1st with the possible exception of the MNC game, which should be completed no later than January 2nd or 3rd (if the 2nd is on a Sunday). No way should major bowl games be held on non-holiday weekdays. It makes it too difficult for fans to attend.

GT fan ...

December 12th, 2009
10:16 pm

Joe, here’s a BIG F-Y-I for you ……….. Tim Tebow’s Gators lost FOUR (4), yes FOUR games (3 reg season, Michigan in their bowl) the year he won the Heisman. The Stanford kid #1, Suh #2 – nuff said.

Hawkeye1,
you ain’t fooling anybody you silly little dog fan. I’ll bet you are Sofa King Cool.

hawkeyeisafag

December 13th, 2009
1:07 am

Hawkeye your team is from a nowhere conference in a nowhere state you are going to get killed you hay seed ass hat

TML

December 13th, 2009
1:28 am

Army-Navy: I understand your personal connnections. But you have to pull for Navy. It’s cool to see CP”Goferit”J’s spread triple option flexbone continue to work its magic.

Heisman: Any great player on any team that loses 4 games – in the Pac 10 no less – is gonna be overshadowed by two other finalists from unbeaten teams (much less a former winner and ESPN-god also amongst the five). Suh is awesome…no doubt. But Nebraska lost to Iowa State. And there’s a reason why the trophy depicts someone *carrying* the ball. Just like ‘chicks dig the longball’, voters dig the touchdowns. Besides, Suh has picked up a load of other trophies this week and will get a BIG check in April at the Draft. Ingram has been good/great against the toughest defenses in the country and is a worthy winner. Unlike that fool Ron Dayne…it still burns me up that Joe – and GT – didn’t get THEIR first one back in ‘99.

Bowls after 1 Jan: THIS is the real travesty. There are WAY too many bowls and there should be none after 1 January, especially crappy games no one cares about. These games, along with many other reasons, are going to be the death-knell to the bowl system and that day can’t get here fast enough.

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razerGT

December 13th, 2009
1:40 am

Chris,

The Cotton Bowl has always been a January bowl, with just one exception (the one for the 1966 season was played on Dec. 31). Occasionally the game is played on the second instead of the first. It’s happened a few times in the bowl’s history. No big deal.

Hawkeye1

December 13th, 2009
6:16 am

hawkeyeisafag

December 13th, 2009
1:07 am

Hawkeye your team is from a nowhere conference in a nowhere state you are going to get killed you hay seed ass hat

I guess that makes it pot meet kettle, huh, little gay one. ACC? LMAO! Your boyfriend needs a BJ. Hop to it sissy boy.

Dan

December 13th, 2009
6:22 am

Stay classy Tech fans. Chris you got some real losers on this blog. Why is it that some Tech fans just can’t accept legitimate points when it comes to GT football? Is it that famous GT insecurity that renders some of your fanbase incapable of civil or rational conversation?

TideRising

December 13th, 2009
6:31 am

hawkeyeisafag

December 13th, 2009
1:07 am

Hawkeye your team is from a nowhere conference in a nowhere state you are going to get killed you hay seed ass hat

Does this guy realize how ignorant and stupid he sounds? What a retard.

TideRising

December 13th, 2009
6:39 am

I get it. hawkeyeisafag is a UGA fan trying to make GT fans look like total morons.

LET THE BIG DAWG EAT!

December 13th, 2009
6:43 am

GEORGIA BULLDOGS!! 2009 ACC CHAMPIONS!!!! 30-24!!!!

collegeballfan

December 13th, 2009
7:09 am

Spiller at Clemson is the best running back I have seen since Hershel & Bo.

yellowjacket82

December 13th, 2009
7:58 am

I agree collegeballfan…Spiller should have been a Heisman Finalist.

Kelly, at the insistance of Notre Dame treated his players poorly. I understand that timing is important for recruiting, but couldn’t they have waited a few more days to make the announcement?

I’m happy that all of these UGA fans are contributing such intelligent comments to our blog….very typical.

Road Scholar

December 13th, 2009
8:10 am

I agree with the past 2 bloggers. The offensive lines at Ala, Fla, and Texas are mammoth and contributed hugely to their candidates successes. Don’t get me wrong they are speacial players. But Gerhart did his running behind a lesser line and Suh had to contend with double teaming and 10 guys trying to stop him. Without Spiller on the list, again it was a big football factory popularity contest.

Gt4ever

December 13th, 2009
8:14 am

The Heisman couldn’t have gone to a better player!

We will make Iowa’s offense look like the best offense in the COUNTRY! Let’s just hope our offense comes to play! I look for a very exciting game……. Go Jackets and THWG.

MAKES SENSE - UGA TO ACC

December 13th, 2009
8:22 am

As a transplanted Big 10 fan (i know, we can’t count), I have no dog in this hunt.
However, after reading all of these posts to Tech stories about UGA being the ACC champs, why not work a trade to get UGA into the ACC.
The ACC could trade one of its thug teams, say FSU or Miami, and UGA would be in a league that apparently is better sited for them.
The down side, UGA could no longer brag about being in the TOUGH SEC. They don’t compete any more but they are in it.

Gt4ever

December 13th, 2009
8:30 am

I’m for GT to get back into the SEC where we BELONG! Nice thought, MAKES SENSE…..

this game meant everything to tech

December 13th, 2009
9:13 am

morning fireflies, 30 degrees in north ga. just up from 24…lmao……..349 days till next year…have a good one!

duke, maryland , and Virginny

December 13th, 2009
9:16 am

espn reported that these three schools had applied for division 1a status, even after losing to division 1aa schools this year..this should make winning the A she she championship much more respectable for the 2010 champions..lmao… later buggos!!

Mike

December 13th, 2009
9:21 am

Nice thought, UGA to ACC. They keep bringing it up. Maybe a subconcious desire to contend again…..you never know.

Cecil34

December 13th, 2009
10:46 am

Being a former Marine, I always watch the Army/Navy game with interest. Of course I am happy Navy won – as they have the last 8 years.

Watching how Army was trying to defense the triple option was an insight in how Iowa is going to do it against Tech. I am sure Ferentz was watching the game yesterday, even though Army was out-manned.

Clemson tried the same strategy as Army – get the 3 biggest Defensive linemen they have and try to plug/crash the middle so the dive play is useless. Then try to crash so Nesbitt can’t scoot forward or outside.

Now CPJ, as the smart guy I know he is, is planning for this. But he needs to have a plethora of plays ready to exploit this piling up on the line that Iowa is going to do.

He may have to pass more. I did take thorough notice that Navy, running the same offense, has a much better short and intermediate passing game than Tech does.

But this is exactly what is missing from the Tech offense and they sorely need this. I hope CPJ puts some of this type of passing in the gameplan for the Orange bowl.

If he does, he might just catch Iowa flat-footed.

The future success of the Tech offense depends on additional passing.

It is also nice to know that Tech has primarily recruited defensive players for next year – Lord knows they need them.

Cecil34

December 13th, 2009
10:51 am

Also, I might add that Tech needs to run more mis-direction plays – you see the whole opposing defense running to whatever side the motion A-back is running to – Tech needs more counter plays to that movement because the backside is generally unattended.

Dollarbill

December 13th, 2009
11:02 am

I watched that Army – Navy game and it was painful!!! There was more action in Dean’s Smith’s 4 Corner offense than in that game. So my question is: What is the difference between Navy and GT’s offense? Level of players? Army defense? Tech’s offense is way more exciting than that junk on TV yesterday.

Alfred J. Codsack

December 13th, 2009
12:19 pm

OldDawg

December 13th, 2009
12:52 pm

Sounds like my man is making excuses already for lack of attendance by the techies…nothing new here…been going on for 40 years!

Stunned that all the techies with all the money they make from all their extremely lucrative careers cant afford 2 trips to fla….save for a 3 or 4 day trip…laughable!

And why cant all college football fans quit blaming the BCS for b owl selections…..once they have matched up 1 and 2….rest of the bowls select in order…the shame is conference tie ins which award little better than average major bowl slots! In techs defense…you should thank God they do!
Otherwise your streak of 43 years of no major bowl appearances would continue!

UGA in the ACC…never…however it would guarantee UGA a much better record each and every year….EVERY tech fan with ANY knowledge of the history of the school will readily admit tech made a monumental mistake when they left the SEC….and they will NEVER be allowed back into the SEC!
We will continue to compete in the strongest conference in America..PERIOD….and while we will have a tech like year at times (7-5) we will know that it was against the best…and we will also KNOW that the winner of the pitiful ACC it kinda like being the prettiest hog in the pen!

30-24……tech…2nd best college football team in the state of Georgia….for 14 of the past 18 years!

Pi$$onaDawg

December 13th, 2009
1:16 pm

Delbert Smith will not be back, but Barrick got his castoff and off his chrutches as of Friday. Austin said he is read to play.

superDawg

December 13th, 2009
1:25 pm

Enter your comments here

superDawg

December 13th, 2009
1:28 pm

Dang POAD you must have worked the late shift at waffle house last night.

superDawg

December 13th, 2009
1:30 pm

scattered smothered chopped diced shredded just like the tek D.

Delbert D.

December 13th, 2009
1:46 pm

POAD – Very good news about Barrick.

Supersize that order, mutt

December 13th, 2009
5:55 pm

Hawkeye1 is obviously not an Iowa fan, or he would know that Iowa will bring 45,000 to the OB. They have already booked some kind of space for a pre-game pep-rally with the understanding that it can accomodate 45,000. They brought that many the last time they played in a major bowl. So the Orange Bowl will definitely not be the least attended bowl. I doubt that more than 25,000 Tech fans will be there, but I hope I am wrong. Still, for a school and fan base the size of Tech, 25,000 isn’t bad, especially considering so many went to Tampa last weekend. We certainly had more than 25,000, however, for the 99 Gator Bowl against ND and for the 90 Citrus Bowl, where there were probably 50,000 Tech fans (or at least fans decked out in Tech colors) there.

Mike Oxbig

December 13th, 2009
6:08 pm

“…if a game is played and nobody watches, did it actually take place?…”

30-24
eat it!

Supersize that order, mutt

December 13th, 2009
6:12 pm

I can’t answer that question for you, Mike. Maybe you will be able to answer it for yourself after the Independence Bowl.

11 – 2 7 – 5
ACC Champion 3rd in SEC East, with one quality win
Orange Bowl (BCS) bound Independence (who gives a damn) bowl

EAT IT!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

December 13th, 2009
6:13 pm

well, the spacing didn’t work out the way I typed it, but I’m sure you get the point

yellowjacket82

December 13th, 2009
7:26 pm

Old Dawg and Superdawg…..your posts make me proud to be a GT graduate. I know you cannot help yourselves. You are just ignorant. Good luck in your bowl.

Alabama Jack

December 13th, 2009
7:34 pm

Watched the Army-Navy tilt yesterday. I was in the Army which is why CPJ being from Navy gave me one more reason to pull for Navy. Then today, I drove to Atlanta, had a couple of Varsity chili dogs and then drove around campus. Damn, it has grown in the past 45 years. As luck would have it I happened to drive by where the Ramblin Reck was being taken out for a test drive (in preparation for the Orange Bowl, I presume). Anyway, it was a fun day and brought back lots of good memories – Bobby Dodd, Bear Bryant, Joe Namath, a young Vince Dooley, Kim King and Bill Curry – both of whom were classmates along with Randall Edmonds, Giles Smith, and Larry Goode.

Anyway its the Christmas season and in that spirit I wish to all, even the dawgs and including the Hawkeyes, a great holiday season.

Our trip home was marred by seeing two very bad auto accidents, so y’all remember to drive safe and sober. Lets all be around for Good Old Fashioned Hate next year.

yellowjacket82

December 13th, 2009
7:38 pm

Alabama Jack….Have a Merry Christmas. We are puling for the Tide in the NC game.