GT vs UGA…Grudge Match in the Deep South!

Its the day before the biggest game of the season and I thought I’d resurrect and update an old blog I wrote back in 2001 when I was writing for the now defunct PigskinPost.com website.  Despite being almost a decade old, this blog still rings true…and probably will for years to come.

Rivalry week is always Thanksgiving week here in Georgia because that is the week that the Yellow Jackets and Bulldogs suit up and face off on the gridiron.  It doesn’t really matter when other teams play their rivalry games.  This week is rivalry week in the state of Georgia.

Georgia and Tech hate each other so much that the fans of both schools actually have incorporated it into their respective fight songs. Georgia fans sing, “Glory, Glory to ‘ole Georgia and to Hell with Georgia Tech!” while Tech fans sing, “If I had a son sir, I’ll tell you what he’d do, he would yell To Hell with Georgia! Like his daddy used to do!”

The Jackets and Dawgs first played each other in 1893 (Tech won 28-6) and have battled 103 times since that first meeting. Georgia leads the overall series 59-39-5 although many Georgia fans dispute a few of Tech’s victories during the World War II era and argue that GT had an unfair advantage, or used ringers, in more than a few of those games. Tech fans deny those allegations and simply point to the scores, as they were reported, while claiming the wins as legitimate. So…you see…modern day Tech and UGA fans cannot even agree on the historical series record.

Lacking even a single point of agreement, the relationship between Jackets and Dawgs just goes downhill from there. The feelings between Tech and UGA fans were once described by author Bill Cromartie as “Clean, Old Fashioned Hate”. I have the most recent edition of his book on my coffee table as I write this. It’s a great chronicle of the history of the Georgia vs Georgia Tech football rivalry. During a recent re-reading of Cromartie’s book, a few events jumped out as perfect examples of the “hate” Jackets and Dawgs hold for each other.

Consider the early years of the rivalry:

1893 – Atlanta newspapers report that UGA supporters chant “Well well well, Who can tell, the Tech’s umpire has cheated like hell!”

1899 – Tech and UGA disagree on the final score. UGA says 33-0 and GT says 20-0.

1903 – UGA promises Clemson a bushel of apples for every point in their margin of victory over Tech. The final is 38-0.

1919 – A float in a UGA parade insinuates that GT cowardly stayed home during World War I, while UGA went to war. No athletic events are scheduled between UGA and GT for the next six years.

Obviously the rivalry got off to a quick start and has had little love lost from the very beginning. This decade, close contests and controversial calls on the field have restored the heat and hate to a rivalry that faltered in the 1970s and 1980s:

1993 – Leading 36-10 and with 89 seconds left in the game, UGA throws a fourth down pass for another TD and a 43-10 drubbing of Tech on their home field. The result? A bench clearing brawl.

1997 – A game saving GT interception, on UGA’s last drive, is erased by a questionable pass interference call. Georgia scores on the very next play to win 27-24.

1998 – An apparent GT fumble on the Jacket’s final drive is ruled as down and the Jackets go on the kick a field goal with 3 seconds on the clock to win 21-19.

1999 – With the score tied at 48, 13 seconds on the clock, and the ball at GT’s 2 yard line, UGA decides to go for the touchdown instead of the sure field goal. Jasper Sanks “fumbles” the ball and Tech recovers to send the game into overtime. The Jackets go on to win 51-48 and the local media creates a circus over the “fumble” which was later shown to have actually been down.

2000 – GT jumps out on UGA early, prompting legendary UGA radio personality Larry Munson to say the Jackets are moving the ball on the Bulldogs like UGA “was Wake Forest of Maryland or Somebody”. Tech goes on to win decisively and Tech fans like myself can be seen walking around in gold shirts that say “Tech Fans for Donnan…And Quincy Carter too!”

2002 – 51-7…

2004 – Reggie Ball throws the ball away on fourth down.  UGA fans claim he can’t count.  GT fans claim the officials failed up to update the down notifier in the endzone, confusing the Jackets.

2005 – Thomas Flowers benefits from obviously missed clipping calls on two big punt returns to swing field position and give UGA the edge and the win.

2006 – The refs choke on their whistles and fail to blow a play dead as Tony Taylor pulls a fumble out of the pile and runs for a TD in a game that ended 15-12 in UGA’s favor.

2008 – 45-42…Roddy Jones is still running down the sideline!

These historical references have fueled a rivalry that lasts 365 days a year and goes well beyond just football games. GT vs. UGA games sell out in every sport available. The baseball and basketball series are especially heated. Fans of UGA and GT make a hobby of cheering against each other any chance they get. If UGA’s basketball team played against the Russian national team or if their baseball team played against a Cuban national team, I’d still pull against the Dawgs.

A rivalry as old and heated as GT versus UGA obviously goes well beyond just sports venues and finds its way into neighborhoods and offices throughout the state. Growing up in central Georgia as an UGA fan (my dad is an UGA alum) I learned all of the old insults that were used regularly against Tech. Having spent the past 20 years attending and cheering for Tech, I’ve heard most of the insults that are used against UGA…

UGA fans call GT fans geeks, yechies, nerds, bugs, bumble bees, yellow maggots, NATS (North Avenue Trade School, a joke based on GT’s address and location), and just about anything else they can think of to make light of GT’s academic reputation or unique mascot the Yellow Jacket.

GT fans call UGA fans mutts, leg humpers, UGAG, rednecks, boo dawgs, ditch diggers, and just about anything else we can think of to make light of UGA’s lower academic standards and way overused mascot, the bulldog.

UGA fans call Bobby Dodd Stadium the “Joke by Coke”, while making fun of the seating capacity and ancient facilities. They were particularly partial to our “Mystery Liquid” and crowded sight lines before the stadium upgrade.

GT fans prefer using “Sanford and Son Stadium” instead of Sanford Stadium when referring to UGA’s home field and the sewage issues (and odors) that have been known to arise there.

UGA fans make fun of the lack of women on Tech’s campus while claiming that GT recruits its cheerleaders from local women’s colleges.

GT fans discuss the loose morals of UGA co-eds and their tobacco chewing habits while steadfastly defending the intelligence and integrity of the women that do grace Tech’s campus.

UGA fans claim that the local newspapers are partial to Tech athletics.

Tech fans claim that the favorable coverage is obviously directed in the Dawgs’ direction.

UGA fans make fun of the fact that GT doesn’t always sell out every home game, despite evidence otherwise.

GT fans make fun of the fact that UGA’s stands “bleed red” in the third quarter, during losing efforts, despite the fact that the stands may have been full at the beginning of the game.

UGA fans claim that Tech “lies and cheats.”

GT fans point to UGA’s past NCAA scrutiny in response.

UGA fans bash GT for taking so many Northern recruits and having so many out of state alums.

GT fans bash on UGA for being afraid to go on the road to play a real out of conference opponent that isn’t located close to home here in the South.

The insults, jibes, and accusations go on 365 days a year. There is no possible way anyone could catalogue them all. The ones listed above are the obvious ones that take about five minutes to crank out on short notice. The list will surely be longer this time next season. GT and UGA fans will be sure to jump on any news stories that happen to put their rival in a bad light, such as the misguided UGA fan who ran through security at Hartsfield here in Atlanta and caused the airport to be evacuated and shutdown for several hours. The idiot was trying to make his flight to the Ole Miss game…Tech fans will glean a years worth of jokes from that fellow and his mug shot that was published complete with a Georgia t-shirt. We widely wondered why Mark Richt didn’t recruit him to play running back. The guy was obviously pretty fast. Who knows…He might have been the next “Hershel Walker”…

Go Jackets!

THWG!

PS:  Told ya the story about the fan running through the airport would never grow old.  I’m just doing my part to keep it alive!

167 comments Add your comment

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 27th, 2009
9:22 am

Saint Simons

November 27th, 2009
9:27 am

To HELL with Georgia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GT FAN PA

November 27th, 2009
9:37 am

Well done Chris- I will be having a few Penn St fans over tomorrow night for the game- Very excited 1st time in years where I’m nervous as the Jackets do have a lot to lose if they don’t win- regardless we are in the ACCCG so hopefully they will be relaxed and ready to go FULL STEAM AHEAD—-GO JACKETS- THWG!!!

TML

November 27th, 2009
9:38 am

An excellent blog, Chris. It hits home on all the basics. I am looking forward to this grudge match tomorrow night and can’t wait for it to get here.

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dogma

November 27th, 2009
9:47 am

It’s great to hate once a year. Finally GT comes with a team us dawgs can truly hate…a winner coach – hate ‘em and a winner tailback – hate ‘em. Hate is good – dawgs win upset giving GT a reason to kill Clemson.

Welcome back to real football ’cause that ACC league is not.

GO DAWGS!

m

November 27th, 2009
10:19 am

Thank God and Greyhound that chan gomer gailey is not here anymore. That is the reason for so much excitement in Tech football is that gomer is gone.

Any Tech fan that ever supported gomer in any way (especially you FOOLS on the HIVE) should be ashamed of yourselves and apologize to all TECH fans that had to suffer under gomer.

Paul Johnson could have been hired in 2002…THINK ABOUT IT!!!

Battle Axe

November 27th, 2009
10:26 am

dogma,

That the dawgs hate winner coaches explains a lot. I guess that means you will be keeping all of yours for another season…

btgt69

November 27th, 2009
10:40 am

it amazes me that so many uga fans never attended uga,, why would anyone disgrace themselves so badly ? No morals, no integrity, no character in their athletic department nor fans.

Love GEORGIA

November 27th, 2009
10:54 am

Tech fans are the biggest a** Holes in the world. After calvin johnsons last loss in athens, a tech nerd stopped by me because of the blocked exits ahead proceeded to slap me in the face and run up to the exit. This dreadlocked, white boy about 21 years old hit at 55 year old and ran away.This is typical of tech nerds. They run their mouths and run away. Well, dreadlocked, white boy, I’ll be at grant field tomorrow looking for a little pay back on and off the field.

bulldawghuff

November 27th, 2009
11:02 am

lets hope for a great game injury free ,hard hitting,mistake free(on both sides),cause the winning side dont want any cryin.but i do feel this is just the beginning of championship football for both teams.the dawgs are not going to be down for long unlike most dawg fans i didnt feel like we needed to put the kids in at qb wit all the youngsters around them ,next year we will start a redshirt frosh at qb that has been on campus for a year and a half,wit a vet line ,wideout,and two running backs that seem to be hitting their stride.go dawgs!

GT45

November 27th, 2009
11:19 am

Gotta love a cowardly GAGER coming on here and making threats. Be sure you pick out the right one to get your payback, buddy!

lucky21

November 27th, 2009
11:52 am

and there goes roddy jones down the sidelines

Cuttysark

November 27th, 2009
11:59 am

With a week off to prepare, and a well rested Yellow Jacket squad, this should be a very good game as the triple option gets going in this one. Tech covers in this game against UGA. Paul Johnson rules in rivalry games!

Go to http://isportsweb.com for a piece on Paul Johnson as he gets the Yellow Jackets ready for some clean old fashioned hate against UGA on Saturday, THWG!

wyldbill

November 27th, 2009
12:11 pm

m

I’m a Tech fan and you’re a …… dork

wyldbill

November 27th, 2009
12:13 pm

love Georgia

Hope you enjoy your stay in the Fulton County jail.

to Hell wth Georgia

November 27th, 2009
12:17 pm

there once was a man name Gus
who was ornery miserable cuss
damn my dogs lost he say
after 6 games played on saturday
but soon came Double D’s
under a shirt that said G T
“so long dogs” soon said Gus
and as he threw mark richt and the team under the bus…

to Hell wth Georgia

November 27th, 2009
12:18 pm

on the pitch out Anthony Allen breaks one tackle then another OMG there he goes

gold and white

November 27th, 2009
1:10 pm

yep in 2004, the endzone scoreboard didn’t say 4th down until the middle of the play when reggie threwit away. i was there. i vividly remember.

TallahasseeWrek

November 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

“1998 – An apparent GT fumble on the Jacket’s final drive is ruled as down and the Jackets go on the kick a field goal with 3 seconds on the clock to win 21-19.”

I reviewed the play frame-by-frame. JoeHam’’s knees hit the ground before he lost the ball. And even if they hadn’t, the UGAG player who first touched the ball’s lower body was out of bounds when he touched it. So either way, it was Tech’s ball.

hedgepruner

November 27th, 2009
1:33 pm

By playing at Historic Grant Field tomorrow dont expect the score of the game to be turned off on the scoreboard like it was in athens last year when we stormed back and won and their might be a large exodus of hydrant humper’s like last weekend’s loss to Kentucky , most ugay fans are dillusional crybabies .THWG

Starring Paul Johnson as Sheriff Buford Pusser

November 27th, 2009
1:57 pm

Hey guys,
Roddy just ran past my house.
He’s still going — without a defender in sight!

I hope we witness one great game tomorrow night.

RAMBLIN’ WRECK!

GTMan

November 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

This is a HUGE game for us. I am nervous about this one, because the Dawgs will be up for this game. I have faith that CPJ will have our boys ready for this game… But those GA boys would love nothing more than to spoil our season.

THWG!

Big Gator

November 27th, 2009
2:18 pm

Wow!!!! Way to go little techies!!!! 22 comments! Boy you guys are such ggod fans! 22 comments… about as many shirts, bumper stickers and anything I see around Atlanta! Such fair weather losers!

dvj

November 27th, 2009
2:20 pm

GT45

November 27th, 2009
2:50 pm

Big Gator, All of our fans are at work-

bulldawghuff

November 27th, 2009
3:02 pm

gt45….score 28-17 ………….gawga.

bulldawghuff

November 27th, 2009
3:06 pm

dats rite dawgs will win…..i hope.

to Hell wth Georgia

November 27th, 2009
3:10 pm

two words, Roddy Jones………………..hahahahahahahahahha oh wait your kidding ran up more yards than first round draft chocie Knowshn Moreno, hahahahhaahahha

when you dogs hunker dow and take a $hit on grant field, make sure you clean it up unlike how you left it sitting there in last weeks game aganst KY ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Homer for the Jackets

November 27th, 2009
3:12 pm

F Georgia, thats all that needs to be said

GT baby all the way

November 27th, 2009
3:15 pm

you know why the Los Angeles Police Dept didnt bother looking for O J Simpson in Athens? Cause they knew there hasn’t been a Heisman winner seen there since 1982

Sounds from the past

November 27th, 2009
3:24 pm

John Heisman, Head Coach of Georgia Tech, 1904-1919, Won 100 games, lost 28, tied 6. Opening day of practice each season he would describe a football like this, holding the football up in front of the players: He would ask, “What is it?” Before anyone could answer he would say, “A prolate spheriod. That is, an elongated sphere in which the outer leathern casing is drawn tightly over a somewhat smaller rubber tubing.” Then, glaring at the players and speaking in an very serious tone of voice he would add,”Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble it.”

John Heisman’s record against the Puppies: 7 wins, 4 losses, 1 tie.

Oh, and by the way, the final score of that very first meeting between Tech and Georgia in 1893 was GT 28, UGA 6. And the Pups were claiming the refs were the reason the got beat… even way back at the very first game against us! LOL!

superDawg

November 27th, 2009
3:43 pm

UGA owns tek.NUFF SAID!!!

bulldawghuff

November 27th, 2009
3:52 pm

i understand why tech fans act like they arent used to winning a game against us………its because they are not used to beating us.lol.go dawgs set the world back to normal.

Tech Losers

November 27th, 2009
4:03 pm

If you see one of the many new “tech fans” walking around that is over 5′5″, weighs more than 130 lbs, has a pretty woman by his side, and claims to bench more than 100 lbs, he did not go to tech.

GTPhenom

November 27th, 2009
4:17 pm

Great article, however, you UGAg fans need to get a life. Get over the fact that GT is going to completely destroy you guys tomorrow

Alabama Jack

November 27th, 2009
4:40 pm

Love GEORGIA – too bad he did such a poor job as you obviously are still walking around full of s%&t. Go pee off the crossovers like your inbreed brethren.

bulldawghuff

November 27th, 2009
4:41 pm

look phenom if you win you win,but when ever these two play its alway i hope we do if you a tech fan,if you are a dawg fan its i hope WE dont screw it up,thats because we know winning is our right,and to not win this game is yours.i dont hate tech i wish them a win in the acc ch,but im a dawg.go dawgs get that victory,go tech when you play clemson.

GT For You And Me

November 27th, 2009
6:08 pm

Dawg’s and Frog’s have one thing in common,when confronted with a Yellow Jacket: Dawg’s lick their Butt,Frog’s rub their Butt after taking that Yellow Jacket sting….TOHWG!!!!!

DawgBite

November 27th, 2009
6:08 pm

At least he has one to pee with Alabama Jack. I bet you squat when you pee, don’t you little girl.

GT For You And Me

November 27th, 2009
6:14 pm

Glory,Glory to old Georgia [TECH]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GT baby all the way

November 27th, 2009
6:59 pm

RODDY JONES, RODDY JONES, RODDY JONES, td!

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 27th, 2009
7:02 pm

ITS GETTING NASTY

BOOGIES THE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 27th, 2009
7:04 pm

TO MY FRIEND = GT FOR YOU AND ME= NOTICE THE CHANGE IN MY NAME

Big Gator

November 27th, 2009
7:35 pm

GT45 ——— I own my own company and have the day off! And when I am at work I have a computer! But in fairness! I forgot McDonalds and Burger King don’t let their employees get on the computer! So sorry about that! Alright, now it is 7:30 on the day before a huge game and there are only 40 something posts! WOW! And your not fair weather fans?
Wasting my time here! See you! Go Gators!

Piss On 'Em

November 27th, 2009
10:47 pm

What do Tech fans and U[sic]Ga fans have in common?

They both didn’t go to UGAy.

Lolz

BS Patrol

November 27th, 2009
11:03 pm

Big Gator owns his own lawn care business. He is a doggie poser anyway. He probably works for min wage if he even works. As far as number of posts go, Tech doesn’t talk the talk they walk the walk.

Daughter of Engineer

November 28th, 2009
2:02 am

Go Tech!! THWG!!!!!

BuLLdawg

November 28th, 2009
2:31 am

Grudge match in The South ?

It’s only a Grudge Match for Georgia Tech, as well it should be with a record against UGA of 37-59-5.

39% winning percentage for Georgia Tech.

Tech is Number 40 in attendance and Number 41 in Strength of Schedule.

UGA finds only 5 other schools with more attendance and UGA SoS is Number 5.

Georgia Tech APR Academic Progress Rate for Football is way worse than UGA APR in Football.

Coach Paul Johnson makes $2.3 million and Coach Richt makes $2.8 million, half a million more than Georgia Tech can come up with to keep Paul Johnson.

BuLLdawg

November 28th, 2009
3:16 am

John Heisman is best known for the fact at Georgia Tech that he went out and built a football team while the ENTIRE REST OF THIS GREAT NATION actually WENT TO WORLD WAR I and defended this country. UGA, and the rest of the NATION did not even have football teams during World War I, instead the entire team and Coach was in France, fighting. Why you want to talk about him anyway, when Georgia Tech has never been Final AP Poll Number 1 and has NEVER won a Heisman Trophy, is beyond me.

Tech did the same thing during World War II, except one guy Castleberry. And, during World War II, Tech played soldiers stationed at Georgia Tech. Again, UGA football players were at World War II. Before they left, they were National Champions in the same polls that Tech claims 6 National Championships found in the Official NCAA Football Records Book. UGA 6 NC Football Tech 6 NC Football. When they came back from fighting World War II, UGA players again won NC.

As for the 1st meeting, UGA won football games the year before. Tech lost every game. As a matter of fact, Tech has had 7 seasons like your 1st season, with 0 wins. Tech has also had 5 more seasons with but 1 win. And, Tech has had 5 more seasons with just 2 wins. 755 same as Hank Aaron. In the 2nd season, Tech cheating wanted to win. Your 3 best players in that 1st game between us were NONE OF THEM students at Georgia Tech yet again. You paid them to play for Tech. At the end of the game, UGA recognized the players, and threw rocks at the train. Then, the train rear-ended a freight train outside Lawrenceville. Barricaded inside, when Tech got back to Atlanta the AJ-C ran headlines with photo of the wrecked TRAIN saying Rambling Wreck returns to Atlanta. Nowadays, Tech tries to pass that 1893 train wreck with AJ-C caption, as a 1930 automobile. Excuse me, you LIED about 1893, World War I and World War II

Sounds from the past.

BuLLdawg

November 28th, 2009
3:21 am

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GT baby all the way

November 27th, 2009 3:15 pm

“you know why the Los Angeles Police Dept didnt bother looking for O J Simpson in Athens? Cause they knew there hasn’t been a Heisman winner seen there since 1982″

REPLY :

Excuse me, Georgia Tech has NEVER EVER WON ANY HEISMAN TROPHY.