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A few things are floating around the boards and blogs today…so lets just get right into them…

1) Clean Old Fashioned Hate…in the Georgia Dome?

Are you kidding me?  Who came up with this wrong headed idea?

Pardon me while I vent for a few minutes…

Neither GT nor UGA gain enough from this proposed debacle to make it worth moving the annual Thanksgiving ritual anywhere but Between the Hedges or On the Flats.

Both the Dawgs and Jackets are already located right square in the middle of the best football recruiting territory in the nation.  There would be minimal recruiting advantage over what both already enjoy returned from this game.

One of the teams, most likely Georgia Tech, would have to give up a home game.

The Georgia Dome SUCKS for football games.  Football games should be played outdoors…period.  I don’t care if its cold or rainy at the end of November.  That’s part of the experience.  I’ve been to games, both college and pro, in the Dome and I don’t like it.  Its too commercial and too clean and antiseptic.  I only want to watch GT vs UGA at Bobby Dodd or Sanford Stadium…period.

The Atlanta Sports Council has a long and distinguished history of screwing Georgia Tech and showing preference to UGA or other SEC programs.  So why should GT participate in anything the ASC promotes…especially at the expense of a home game?

Gary Stokan…if you are reading this…No Thanks!  Go Away!  Your thinly veiled agenda was exposed long ago!

Dan Radakovich…if you are reading this…a large portion of your donors and fan base will be vehemently opposed.

I don’t care if this move would give Tech a competitive advantage.  Sure…we wouldn’t have suffered attrition to our depth from injuries over the season and sure UGA would likely have three to six players suspended for the game.  I just don’t care…

2) ACC Ties to the Gator Bowl Severed?

It sounds like the Champ’s Bowl in Orlando has stepped up to the #3 slot in the ACC Bowl tie-in heirarchy based on an Orlando Sentinel article recently.  That article was followed by rumors that the ACC and the Gator had parted ways.

Now…I agree that Orlando is a better destination than Jacksonville.  But I don’t like the prospect of dropping a fairly prestigious New Year’s Day bowl.  I’m very curious to see how the remainder of the ACC bowl schedule looks.  Hopefully John Swofford will break his attention away from Tobacco Road basketball long enough to make sure the football programs in his conference have decent bowl tie-ins.

3) FSU…A Rudderless Ship or a Wounded Animal?

As I’ve mentioned in past blogs, a large portion of my immediate and extended family are FSU alums, fans, and boosters of varying degrees.  So I watch quite a bit of FSU football each season.  And I know how much they revere Bobby Bowden.

I think this Jim Smith character needs to shut his trap until the season is over.  The decision makers at FSU, which I assume involves the Board of Trustees, made the decision to extend Bowden’s contract and make Jimbo Fisher the coach “in waiting”.  They made their bed…they need to lie in it and endure the season however it plays out.

You don’t treat someone who built your program from scratch the way Bowden has been treated the past few days.

Now granted…FSU has been in decline for a few years.  And yes Bowden may be stubbornly resisting pressure to retire.  But the man has a contract and an agreement was made.  Bowden deserves that contract and agreement to be honored until at least the season is over.  Then the hard conversations and decisions can be made away from the harsh glare of media reports and internet bloggers.

I’ll be making the trip to Tallahassee this weekend to watch the game.  I was already feeling nervous about it.  But now I have no clue.  Will the FSU players sleepwalk through the game or will the Noles come out like a wounded animal backed into a corner?  Which team will show up?

All I know is that Tech better go down there with expectations that FSU will be gunning for revenge.  The Jackets will need to score early to break the will of both the players and the fans.

Go Jackets!

Just Say NO to the Atlanta Sports Council!

30 comments Add your comment

TechDan

October 8th, 2009
12:56 am

Techfan78

October 8th, 2009
1:01 am

First, Tech vs Georgia? September? Ga. dome? No freaking way, it would ruin this rivalry that we are trying to make a rivalry again which I think after this year we will have officially made it a rivalry again. Second, I think it is a mistake if we (ACC) lose the gator bowl. Even though it isnt as good as some of the other new years day bowls, it is much better than the champs sports bowl. Third, the game this weekend scares the heck out of me as a Tech fan. I know we have the capability of beating the noles. Last years game really wasnt as close as the final score told. We were dominating that game until Josh got hurt and Jaybo had to take over, Josh doesnt get hurt we win by 2 touchdowns, I was there you could feel the momentum shift. The question is obviously, just like you said, which FSU team shows up? If it is the one that showed up against Jacksonville State, South Florida, and Boston College we win by 17 points, if it is the one that showed up in the season opener against BYU and Miami (even though they lost) we may be in for a real slugfest. I have always liked Bowden, and he is truly one of the games greatest ever but I just think it is time for him to retire and enjoy being with his family. With that being said, best of luck to Bowden and his team the rest of the season…after this Saturday. Tech really needs this win, hopefully FSU will sleepwalk through this game like that have most of there games this year and Tech will play like they are capable of playing (excellent running, ball control, timely passing, and good enough defense). Go Jackets!!!

Ed-Covington

October 8th, 2009
1:31 am

BTW, Bowden did not build the program from scratch. Bill Peterson, who was on Dodd’s staff at Tech in 1966, went to FSU when it was known as a “girl’s school” and built the foundation; though the program did decline after Peterson left until Bowden revived it.

Ed-Covington

October 8th, 2009
1:37 am

There was an interesting suggestion on Bradley’s blog about having a uga v ?(Big Ten?) & TECH v ?(Big 12?) doubleheader at the dome for the Kick-Off Classic every year they way Legion Field in Birmingham did for Ala & Auburn back in the ’70s.

Ed-Covington

October 8th, 2009
1:43 am

Techfan78:

FSU opened with Miami, played BYU after the Jax State game.

You make an good observation about Nesbitt being hurt. Remember when FSU players were caught by the sideline camera bragging they were going to hurt Joe Hamilton to get him out of the game, and then DID IT? Mickey Andrews was the DC then, too! Coincidence?

GTcoaches

October 8th, 2009
2:05 am

GTcoaches are focused and have the team working on the areas required to stop FSU’s passing attack. We are no concerned about anything else, they have no rushing attack. Our offense is jelling nicely and we expect another complete game from them this Saturday. Nesbitt will play 3 Quarters and
Jaybo Shaw will mop up the final quarter. Score 48-14.

"Toe Meets Leather"

October 8th, 2009
2:05 am

Clean Ol’ Fashioned Hate in September is an insane idea. I like the thought of the Chik-Fil-A Kickoff Classic and I understand Stokan’s desire to get the home teams in there once or twice. But pair us up against someone else that would sell just as many tickets. Georgia Tech-Alabama or Georgia Tech-Notre Dame anyone? Don’t ruin a good idea by taking things too far.

Toe Meets Leather – Sisson’s game-winning field goal against then-#1 Virginia in 1990 – now in sports art and NOW AVAILABLE at http://www.stinGTees.com! ‘Get your GT’ tonight/today!

bugsquacher

October 8th, 2009
2:20 am

GET Ready Bugs! The big dawg is going to eat! The day & time draws near…..

bugsquacher

October 8th, 2009
2:41 am

burp! (((31-17))), (((15-12))), (((14-7))), (((19-13))), (((34-17))), (((51-7))), (((31-17)))… still full from past meals…

CW

October 8th, 2009
4:02 am

If you read the other Tech blog, you’ll know that what is being discussed is a one-time game in the dome. Radokavich sees it as an opportunity to even out Tech’s schedule which is currently tilted too heavily this year (Clemson, VT and GA at Grant Field) and the off years when the schedule isn’t quite so attractive. If the 2011 game is in the dome, then 2012 against the doggies would be back on Tech’s campus.

I also think most folks aren’t seeing the national scope of such a game being played at the first of the season. Last two years, Alabama has had virtually the entire stage to themselves. Tech and UGa would both like to try that for themselves.

As far as Bowden goes, I just don’t get what FSU owes him. He has been paid around $25 million to be their coach. Read Bianchi’s column in the Orlando paper and you’ll get the gist. Coach Bowden isn’t living up to what a head coach is supposed to do – put team first. For all I care, he can stay there until he’s 100. But please don’t tell me what he is owed.

jabster

October 8th, 2009
4:20 am

Remove COFH from Thanksgiving weekend so more Tech fans will be at the game instead of at home, out of state. UGA draws more in-state students percentagewise, so it’s less of an issue for them.

GTville

October 8th, 2009
1:52 pm

I like the UGA vs ? and GT vs ? double header to kick off the season.

Try this for a concept:

2011 UGA vs FSU and GT vs Florida
2012 UGA vs Clemson and GT vs South Carolina
2013 UGA vs UCLA and GT vs USC
2014 UGA vs Indiana and GT vs ND
2015 UGA vs Michigan and GT vs Mich State

Get the picture. A battle of the states. If GT and UGA are not up for it on an annual basis, they can swap Alabama/Auburn; or KY/Louisville in every so often.

GTville

October 8th, 2009
1:56 pm

Or, better yet. Create a playoff like atmosphere and hold 2 games on Friday and 2 games Saturday; bring in 2 teams from 4 states to create the match ups. Big time $$$, lots of tourist revenue for the City (8 teams total), big time recognition for ATL, and big time excitement for most college football fans.

This would also set up a scenario similar to how they could try to run a playoff scenerio in a decade or so.

Burdell

October 8th, 2009
2:06 pm

What is a squacher anyway? Well, coming from a fan base that spells dog, dawg, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Keep the GT-UGA game on the respective campuses.

I think the ACC dropped the ball on losing another Jan. 1 bowl game.

I am afraid that FSU is more like a wounded animal. I just hope they are “near death” and can’t put up much of a fight after the first quarter.

GO JACKETS!!

Techfan78

October 8th, 2009
2:19 pm

Ed-Covington, I knew the Miami game was the opener, I made a change a forgot to correct that. You get my point though. Florida State played a pretty good offensive game against Miami, and showed some flashes defensively, against BYU they played a complete game and looked very good. Im just wondering which FSU team shows on Saturday. I remember back in the Joe Hamilton days how FSU constantly knocked him out of the games and bragged about it. The same was done last year when they took Nesbit out. I was sitting in a section full of FSU fans and almost got into it with them for cheering about knocking him out, I had the last laugh though as we went on to win the game. Those fans were so haertbroken and degraded afterwards. If you remember correctly the last time Joe Hamilton faced the Noles he lit them up for I think 387 yards and 4 touchdowns and stayed healthy, just imagine if we had played some resemblence of defense that season. I think if Nesbit stays healthy this year, regardless of how FSU plays if Nesbit stays healthy I think he is started to click in the offense good enough to lead us to tough wins. Go Jackets!!!

BadBuzzCut

October 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

GTville, I think you’re onto something special there. You could market and promote the hell out of that, as long as you could get the schedules to all line up.

Ramblin Wrecker

October 8th, 2009
2:49 pm

The FSU situation is proof positive that you don’t start celebrating a person’s career until that career is over. With all the things they’ve named after him, and the bronze statues and being in the Hall of Fame, Bowden has elevated himself to untouchable in his own mind, above reproach and accountability. Plus the system is setup backwards. Bowden’s boss is a former player (TK Weatherell) and he’s a lame duck to boot. So not only is TK loyal to Bowden, he essentially takes orders from Bowden, but he is also not in a position of strength to make changes because he’s on his way out next spring. There is no clear chain of command and the head guy is asleep at the wheel. I disagree with people who say Bowden earned the right to leave on his own timetable. That was true back in 2001. But his lack of leadership and inability to adapt to the new college football landscape has eroded that right that existed.

Watch this link and tell me if this is a man who should be the head coach of a pony league football team, much less a Division 1 flagship college football program. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moaWhAsfcK4

Ramblin Wrecker

October 8th, 2009
2:53 pm

Sorry I pasted the wrong link. This is the one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIn17ufE7ZM

but the other one is bad enough, with Bowden showing his embarrassing sexist self.

GTville

October 8th, 2009
2:54 pm

I need to see if I can file a patent or copyright or something.

Call it the “Hall of Fame Alpha Championship by Chick a Filet” or something to celebrate the Hall being in Atlanta and put the winners in the top 10 polls. Alpha because they will be the leaders of the pack until someone can challenge and knock them off.

blazer

October 8th, 2009
5:15 pm

THEY ARE STILL WOUNDED OVER 45-42-SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT SECOND PLACE IN

THE SEC EAST-NO INDOOR GAMES AT THE FALCON PLACE-IS CHARLES SCOTT STILL RUNNING?

Sorry Ed Covington...

October 8th, 2009
6:59 pm

…you are correct that Bill Peterson is the one who laid the original foundation at FSU, and correct that it floundered after he left until Bobby was hired in 1976; but, Peterson was the head coach at FSU in 1966 – maybe you meant to say he was on Dodd’s staff in 1956? I have no idea about that – only that, growing up, I lived in Tallahassee from 1962-1968 and Bill Peterson was the head coach all during that time, until he left for the Houston Oilers!

And, speaking of great first games of the season – the 1967 season opener between Alabama and FSU was a classic – a 39 – 39 tie, with Bear screaming on the sidelines on live TV “What the hell is going on here” as FSU matched them point for point!

collegeballfan

October 8th, 2009
7:00 pm

NO to the Dome. College football should be played on the respective campuses, period.

And while I am at it you can take the UGA v Fla game out of Jacksonville & put it back on campus.

This weekend at FSU does not look good to me. The Jacket defense.

SoGaSeminole

October 8th, 2009
7:05 pm

FSU was bound to blow up with or w/out Bobby, pre-1970’s migration boom the state of Florida had 0 CFB NC’s… since then the state has 10. 5 in Miami, 3 in Hogtown, and 2 in Tally. What is to say we couldnt have more w/out him in the first place? I appreciate what BB has done but thats it, HAS done, not doing. The Jim Smith ‘character’ you speak of is the former Attny General of the State among many other titles more respectable than any football coach. And if you think a career politician like Jim Smith spoke out without the approval of his fellow BOT members then you must be smoking, this was a calculated move and it was in the works not off the cuff. We have come out and stated multiple times that BB will not be asked to leave during the season, we are honoring his 1 year contract that ends this year and lying in the bed we’ve made. BB has been paid more than handsomely to be a figurehead, and he will get a huge amount of money just to walk away at the end of the year or the option to come back for less and give Jimbo the keys.

SoGaSeminole

October 8th, 2009
7:07 pm

Ramblin Wrecker – I knew you Techie’s had brains but I thought it was just books not sense, I stand corrected. That is a spot on assessment.

AtWork

October 8th, 2009
7:54 pm

I like the GTVille idea…a Friday/ Saturday double header would be great for the sport of football because you could have college gameday here for both of the games and hopefully both programs will be rank…georgia tech and georgia…so it really can have $$ appeal.

Email ASC that idea and do it quick so we can have a great college kickoff in the state of Georgia every year!

Sautee Dawg

October 9th, 2009
1:19 pm

Boggs

Remember what happened the last time Ga. Tech visited the state of Florida for a game?
Still laughing about that top 10 list you come up with before the Miami game.
Could happen again.

panhandlebuzz

October 9th, 2009
2:40 pm

I live in the Florida panhandle, have for over 30 years, but grew up in Griffin, Georgia and have been a Tech fan for well over 50 years. My daughter graduated from FSU. That being said I detest FSU, but like Coach Bowden. While it is true that the noles had some success on Peterson, in the five years period prior to Coach Bowden things had become so bad that the school was seriously considering dropping football. Jim Smith is a worthless piece of crap, a politician who wanted to be governor, was a democrat who changed to repulican, still could not win. He has no loyalty, other to himself. In an interview with the St Petersburg paper, he likened Coach Bowden to a beloved family dog that had to be put down. According to Smith, you know its the right thing to do, but you feel bad about it. Congratulations Coach Bowden, you and Fido are both revered in the Smith household. All of this being said, I am scared to death about game in Tally this weekend, where we have never won.

Not Disappointed

October 10th, 2009
9:36 pm

bugsquacher

October 14th, 2009
10:08 pm

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bugsquacher

October 14th, 2009
10:09 pm

trade school nerds…..VT will crush you…