Rival ACC “Villains” Over the Years?

Heather Dinich did an interesting blog for ESPN.com recently in which she listed the “villains” for each ACC team.

She listed Tech’s “current” villain as the bogus helmet-to-helmet call in the Hokies loss last year and she listed the “all time” GT villain as Bear Bryant, largely because of the Chick Granning incident and Bobby Dodd’s competition with Bryant when Bama and GT were two of the most dominant programs in the country.

I can’t disagree with either of those.  That bogus call very likely cost the Jackets a berth in the ACC title game and GT fans almost uniformly hate Bama and Bear Bryant.  So from my perspective she was pretty much on target.

Her blog also got me to thinking about “villains” or Jacket “killers” that I remember as players or coaches amongst the other ACC teams.  So I sat down and scribbled out a quick list as I thought about each team in the ACC we’ve played against since I first started following Tech football in the late ’80s.

What “villains” do you remember from our ACC rivals and games?  Here are mine…

Boston College – Mike Cloud!  Anyone else remember Cloud running for over 200 yards against us in 1998?  We wound up 10-2 that season but we may have been 11-1 and playing in a really big bowl game if Cloud hadn’t single handedly carried BC to an early season upset on our own turf.  True, the Eagles weren’t an ACC team when that game was played but they count today.

Clemson – Woody Dantzler.  The QB draw…over and over and over again.  Danztler threw for 254 and two TDs while running for 164 and two TDs.  This game followed the events of 9/11 and Tech never really recovered from the OT loss as we dropped out of the national title picture.

Duke – Chris Douglas.  211 yards and two TDs in the 2003 road loss up in Durham.  I was at that game and distinctly remember telling one of my buddies as we walked into the stadium, “Duke has one guy who can really hurt us…watch their running back, #4, he’s good enough to play for anyone in the conference.”

Florida State – Defensive Coordinator Mickey Andrews gets special consideration here.  His dirty brand of defense in the ’90s resulted in Joe Hamilton rarely finishing a game against the ‘Noles.  Tech fans by and large consider Andrews the master instigator behind way too many late hits designed to get Hamilton out of the game.  Hamilton only ever completed one game without an injury against FSU, in 1999, when he went 22 of 25 for 387 yards and four TDs while rushing for another.  FSU fans I know still say Hamilton’s performance in that game was the best they’ve ever seen at Doak Campbell Stadium.

Maryland - This one was tougher and I settled on Ralph Friedgen.  I still remember the bitter disappointment when The Fridge left his offensive coordinator job at Tech to take over the Terps program.  Yeah, he deserved the chance to be the head man at Maryland, but it still stung when he left.  Its ok to revere him for his time at Tech and dislike him as the Terps coach.  Its only natural right?

Miami – We’ve beaten these guys 4 straight and own a 4-10 all time record against them.  At this point they are something of an afterthought.  As far as a “villain” goes I’ll take the opposite approach I took with Maryland.  I disliked Patrick Nix as a Jacket and loved him as a Cane.  Having Nix calling the offense for Miami was almost like having a double agent in place that you could count on to sabotage your opponent.  Since noone has stepped up at Miami in the recent past to really fill the villain role, I’ll leave it to Nix for safekeeping.

North Carolina – We’ve owned the the Heels for the most part.  But after last season, I think Butch Davis has landed on Paul Johnson’s list of villains with along with mine.  Going for it on 4th down and converting a 31 yard TD pass in the waning minutes of a game you control…Paul Johnson remembers things like that.  Look for Tech to run up the score any time the opportunity presents itself.

NC State – Terrance Holt.  Anyone else remember Holt taunting Kerry Watkins after their OT victory in 2000?   I’ll always remember his actions as a clear cut example of poor sportsmanship.

Virginia – Cedric Peerman spoiling Homecoming last season was the first thing to jump out at me when I pondered who would qualify as a UVA “villain”.  Al Groh is easy to dislike as well.  I just can’t shake the image of Peerman plowing into the endzone for the go ahead score last season…from my seats, I had a great view of the play…it sucked…

Virginia Tech – This one is easy.  I hate the entire team and everything associated with it.  These guys are the new “punk” team in the ACC if you ask me.  If UGA is our 1A rival then the Hokies are a close 1B.  Since joining the ACC they’ve shown repeated poor sportsmanship and have quickly surpassed FSU, Miami, and NCSU as the brats most likely to showboat, throat slash, or just generally act like a fool.  Losing to them last season because of a bogus helmet to helmet call was just adding insult to injury.

Wake Forest – Its hard to dislike these guys.  I think Grobe is a fine coach and Wake is a fine academic institution. Can anyone come up with a real Wake Forest “villain”?  Help me out here…the best I can do is the Tereshinski brother who caught the big pass in the 2006 ACC title game.  His brother was a Bulldog so maybe he’s guilty by association…

I’m curious to see everyone’s responses…who are the “villains” you remember from your days watching GT’s ACC opponents?

Go Jackets!

THWG!

112 comments Add your comment

Engy

August 19th, 2009
11:07 pm

Reggie Ball.

GTFan

August 19th, 2009
11:30 pm

How about some of your tidbits from attending Tech Practice. How does the team look to you? What are your concerns about the team? Glad you posted more frequently this time. Let’s keep this fresh every 2-3 days for months. Give Tech fans the equal coverage!

BIG DOG

August 19th, 2009
11:54 pm

Are you ready for some almost chump con.hell yea!we all suck that includes you.dont no hoo you are look in the mirror.tuck feck and the hole con.

BIG DOG

August 19th, 2009
11:59 pm

you know its great to be a georgia bulldog!nuff said.

pee wee

August 20th, 2009
12:04 am

i’m a ramblin turd from way back and UGA has kicked our beehinds since well you know

OLD DAWG

August 20th, 2009
12:06 am

aint simons

August 20th, 2009
12:09 am

UGA tek UGA WELL YOU KNOW.

superDawg

August 20th, 2009
12:14 am

nuffff said!

superDawg

August 20th, 2009
12:15 am

see you nerds tomorrow.

superDawg

August 20th, 2009
12:17 am

band wagon be gay.

cook

August 20th, 2009
3:40 am

Great idea for an article. Well done!
For Miami: Santana Moss comes to mind from the 2000 Gator Bowl… ran all over Tech.
Definately add Reggie Ball to the list.

LET THE BIG DAWG EAT

August 20th, 2009
4:17 am

What a bunch of cry baby wimps!

T-Rav and the Eastside Grainger

August 20th, 2009
4:46 am

Boston College wasnt in the ACC in 1998. Had we won 90-0 it wouldnt have mattered. FSU still wouldve beat us on the head to head. They destroyed us.

Also, I’d say our ineptitude against one of the worst teams in the ACC, Virginia, was what cost us a chance at the ACC title.

Samuel

August 20th, 2009
8:11 am

Sorry, but this writer is on crack.

Yeah, yeah, we know...

August 20th, 2009
8:12 am

U.S. News and World ranks GT #7 and UGA #21 (some things never change); and, Tech beat UGA 45 – 42 last year (while other things sometimes change). Some days are better than others when you are not the lead dog!

But, yesterday the ticket broker did pay me $2200 for my 4 UGA season tickets (all upper level), and when I offered him my Tech season tickets (lower level, 35 yard line, 45th row – I’ll be going to Clemson games this year – kids a senior there) he said there was no demand right now for Tech tickets so he declined. Again, some things, obviously, never change.

And, Gani Lawal being on the Wooden watch list as one of the players to consider as the best basketball player in the U.S. for next season may be one of the most startling “reaches” EVER – he isn’t even the best player on the Tech team!!!!!!

cws260

August 20th, 2009
8:12 am

Bogus! Your # 22 stuck his helmet right in T.Taylors ear hole. Go back and watch it you wuss. Just because VT owns you no need to hate. But I guess we see your true colors now loser. SOUR GRAPES!

Julie Clowdis

August 20th, 2009
8:13 am

Chrissy Boggs, this Hokie fan feels the same about your overhyped squad.

Well, DUH re: Wake Forest...

August 20th, 2009
8:28 am

…you have a short memory – they beat us for the outright ACC Championship in 2007!

Or was it 2006...

August 20th, 2009
8:28 am

Hokie gal

August 20th, 2009
8:29 am

Gee tell us how you really feel. These kind of articles do the ACC no good. Just because your team has not played to its potential is no reason to call out and name people you like to degrade personally. Get a life!

Hokie gal

August 20th, 2009
8:32 am

OH BY THE WAY COULD YOU TELL YOUR THUGS THEY OWE US OUR JERSEYS BACK!

Jason

August 20th, 2009
9:26 am

Does it really matter. Right now the ACC is a middle of the pack football conference. If FSU and Miami can ever make a comeback then the ACC can brag.

Brian

August 20th, 2009
9:55 am

Nix isn’t even at Miami any more. Do some research before you look like an idiot.

Sting 'em Buzz

August 20th, 2009
10:07 am

first thing to come to mind was Reggie Ball

Jason in Chesapeake

August 20th, 2009
10:40 am

Seriously dude, the new “punk team” in the ACC. Give me a break, the Hokies are a blue collar team that gets results thru hard work and toughness. We are not the show boat all stars that you see out of some teams in college football. If we get a pick 6 or a nasty run for a TD there is nothing wrong with celebrating within reasonable standards. Bottomline, its obvious by the comments here that most of thee people, including me think you are a bitter hack. That call last year was legit, so watch the tape man. You brought a gimmic offense with little film to watch and we still managed to beat with, even tho our offense didn’t start clicking until the end of the season. This years game will be a good one, i expect both teams to bring their A game. No excuses GT, it’s in your house, mid season game with plenty of time to see what the opponent is bringing to the table. If you can’t beat us this year you will have to wait until at leats 2011, becasue you have a lot of talent that could go pro after this season and we are a team full of sophmores. Good Luck and stop your crying. Jealousy is a stinky cologne my friend!

We the people

August 20th, 2009
10:43 am

The villains for Teck are there fans!! They are a bunch of band-waggoners!! Show up only for a “Geek-out” and cannot sellout a 55,000 seat stadium. (Unless you buy 4 seats, 4 hotdogs & 4 cokes).
How Pathetic!!

BTW- I hear the Cheerleader Tryouts @ The Cheetah went well!

Matt in NoVA

August 20th, 2009
11:16 am

Jason in Chesapeake- Really? Really? You are really defending the ‘character’ of vpi? WOW, that is blind, not just maroon and orange glasses, but just blind. And no chance that was a legit call at the end of that game – please link the video that so clearly indicates otherwise.

hates hokies

August 20th, 2009
11:38 am

couldn’t agree more about VPI. they’re the scum of the earth. it’s completely pathetic to see all the hokies in the comments here vainly trying to defend their sub-par institution.

ACC Champs

August 20th, 2009
11:51 am

There is no need for us to defend the Hokies. We won period. These GT fans should be praising PJ and the new system, instead they continue to cry about last season.

Who is GT??

August 20th, 2009
11:51 am

gt is IRRLEVANT

Rival?

August 20th, 2009
12:03 pm

VT does not consider GT it’s rival or a rival. VT does not think about you except for game week. Even then, VT is more concerned about UNC two weeks later. Also, you should always shoot to win so that the officials CAN’T screw it up cause we all know they will.

Congratulations, you succeeded! You found a way to get people to talk about you.

And now you’re out of mind again.

Marcus from Newport News

August 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

Too bad VT has won the ACC Sportsmanship award several years. Keep hating and VT will keep counting ACC Championships. Sorry, but VT has its eyes on a greater prize now, good luck battling for 2nd in the coastal. Other teams will figure out that gimmicky offense the second time around as well. Keep thinking driving that old car on to the field is cool.

Bzzzz…Bzzzzz….SPLAT – Sincerely VT Nation

cws260

August 20th, 2009
12:29 pm

Hey Matt in NoVa, your the one with clouded glasses. Rewatched the game last night and your guy is the one that screwed you. That call was completely legit. When he planted his helmet clearly in TT’s earhole out of bounds no less. So if you want to cry and whine about a legit call that’s a you problem. If you hinge that legit call on your season then you shouldn’t have lost to uva, unc like you did. So quit your whinning. By the way that 3rd ACC title sure was sweet. How many have you won in the last 5 years? Thought so. So bring on that High School offense and we will stop it again.

Hokie

August 20th, 2009
12:46 pm

If last years loss to a bunch of rookies was an insult – you are in for some major pain when VT buries GT this year

T-Rav and the Eastside Grainger

August 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

Who is Ga Tech? May I ask a question? I’ll assume you’re a Georgia fan. What exactly is UGA relevant to? Certainly not the National Championship. Hmmmm. Not the SEC either. As an afterthought to Florida and Tim Tebow, you’re not even relevant in your own division within in your conference which is quite sad honestly. For all the delusional bragging you do about how good you’ll always be, you’re stuck in the same division with the most dominant team in college football. How does it feel to be the team that nobody talks about? Talk about irrelevant.

sharecropper

August 20th, 2009
1:10 pm

Well, I don’t know about Ralph Friedgen. I do recall, though, that from the time he took the Maryland job until O’Leary left, O’Leary coach .500 football.

StingTime

August 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

10-4 all time versus Miami. 1990 UNC team on the hate list for the 13-13 tie. Charlottesville on the hate list for not winning there since 1990.

IronHokie

August 20th, 2009
1:49 pm

“Jealousy is a stinky cologne” very nice. I might have to use this sometime ;)

bottom line this blogger is a hack laced with jealousy.

VT > GT

flapjacket

August 20th, 2009
1:49 pm

VT fans – I look forward to seeing your donkey caravan coming to the city this fall – twice. What I really look forward to even more is seeing whether you or Alabama is more overrated. I’d like to say that your record in Atlanta would be 0-3 after the Peach Bowl, but your not going to get to Tampa to be able to lose that game.

IronHokie

August 20th, 2009
1:52 pm

overrated? going for 3 straight ACC titles?

LSU unfortunetly exposed GT’s ‘Overrated’ team. Its crazy what some practice can do to stop that offense.

see you around silly goose

Jimmy62

August 20th, 2009
2:41 pm

Shouldn’t Tech’s all time villain be the ref that gave Colorado a 5th down against Missouri way back in 1990/91? Or how about the ref that called the phantom clipping call against Notre Dame, removing the touchdown “Rocket” Ismail just scored? Either one of those calls made right, and Tech was the undisputed national champion that year.

RAMBLE ON!!!

August 20th, 2009
3:28 pm

Beating Clempson never gets old.

But, I will enjoy beating the crap out of The VT Pit bull fighters this year even more though.

crazy_4_GT

August 20th, 2009
4:36 pm

T-Rav & Brian should read the column before commenting…I don’t hate VT and until we beat them, I guess we can’t shut them up! Really VT is more like an SEC school (not in academics) and I suppose that is from years of winning.

As for in-conference fans at BDS, I think that Miami fans are the absolute worst. I don’t remember VT being that bad (of course we were getting our tails kicked while their QB was wearing one of our jerseys).

crazy_4_GT

August 20th, 2009
4:39 pm

I sure hope all the VT fans show up if on a blog if they happen to lose to GT this year! My guess they will act more like SEC fans (see ugag) and will disappear for a while.

flapjacket

August 20th, 2009
5:14 pm

First, I’d like to recant my donkey comment. Uncalled for. I was hacked about some of the comments on here.

IronHokie,

The past is the past. I’m talking about being overrated THIS year. VT was a stretch for the top 10 in my opinion anyway, but with the loss of Evans I just don’t see it. Bama is ranked way out of its league, too, as is Ole Miss.

And yes, practice does help defend our offense, as it does with ANY offense. Just so you know, though, we gained as many yards as LSU did, they just got better field position and we never converted when we got down the field. They kicked us, no doubt, but I don’t think it was the offense. It was special teams, turnovers, and execution. Also, I’m pretty sure you had some problems with LSU in the last few years.

VT had one of the lowest scoring offenses in the conference last year. Does that mean everyone has “figured out” your offense? Or maybe you just didn’t execute well. As PJ says, what’s the difference between 21 years of film of his offense and 22? If one more year makes the difference, that’d be incredible.

The thing about our offense is that it takes everyone on the defense making the correct decisions every time or there’s a huge play. You can teach them and practice all day, but they’re not going to make the right decision every time, especially when tired, which is when they just want to follow their instincts and go for whoever has the ball. Big mistake. Also, you gotta make tackles one on one. Hard to do with Dwyer. See second half of UGA game last year for illustration of both, and basically all of the Miami game.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

August 20th, 2009
5:22 pm

Does GT have a winning record against anybody in the ACC? Seriously, other than Duke or Wake? Has GT ever been a dominant team in the ACC (besides the years of ineligible players)? I mean to read these blogs GT is the next Florida of the 90’s or Bama of the 70’s. I’m sorry but one year does not a dynasty make. Try proving it on the field before spouting it on the blog. Just my opinion, and the questions I posed are serious questions. Good luck to GT this year and beyond, I think CPJ will go down as one of the best coaches GT has ever had, but he hasn’t earned that title yet.

Com Padre

August 20th, 2009
5:31 pm

You VaTech fruits need to rewatch the video. Even the announcers called the helmet to helmet flag bogus. Get ready for your beating this season, Gobblers.

old Tech fan in NC

August 20th, 2009
5:42 pm

Wake had a guy named Rusty that was hard on Tech foot/basketball. He did not seem to be a “villain” however. FSU had C Ward. Also a two sport guy and a non villain. I’ve always hated on- side kicks ever since that game…It seems easy to consider a tie rod a villain though.

BobEd

August 20th, 2009
9:56 pm

Whine about the DC of FSU?!?!?! Got cheezzze for you. Hamleton was too much of a wussy to finish against future NFL players and you cry about it? Figures. GT got very lucky on the fumble against FSU last season to be handed a win but most people know the Seminoles are back this season but will be competing for a NC in 2010. Jeff Bowden and his also-rans are gone now.

CatsFly

August 20th, 2009
10:28 pm

Sports and athletics – the latest figures from U.S. News and World Report rank UNC as the fifth-best public university in the country. It’s the ninth consecutive year that UNC has been ranked fifth. UGa, GaTech??? Who cares about academics! Go Dawgs!