Well, I wouldn’t call your husband retarded– but here lately, more often than not I’ve been seriously questioning YOUR taste. After trying some of the restaurants that you’ve given high ratings– most recently, “La Pietra Cucina”– I have to say that I’ve been underwhelmed by almost all of your recommendations (one of the few you’ve gotten right would be “Shaun’s”– but I’m sure you’ve heard that old saying about blind pigs & acorns). I used to think that you were a breath of fresh air– a nice change from Kessler’s often overblown pomposity. Lately, though, I’m beginning to realize that your palate isn’t really any more sophisticated or knowledgeable than anyone else’s. You tend to give too high a rating to places that have maybe one or two standout dishes & nothing more; this makes me wonder whether you actually try everything the kitchen has to offer, or whether you go to a place more than twice before you bestow whatever number of stars you deem it merits. I’ve followed many of your suggestions, only to find that they were mediocre or uneven at best. I think from now on that I’ll stick with Christiane Lauterbach’s recommendations– she, at least, seems to have developed a palate.
I find reviews that aren’t stuffy and pompous refreshing. No one is going to agree with everything you or any critic says due to much varied palates. I too agree that the number “food & wine” snobs has become way out of control. I find a varied palate more interestig than someone who spits out the same verbose columns one after the other. Keep up the realism…a refreshing cleansing of the palate!
Cubalibre: Sorry to disappoint. I’ll keep your comments in mind. And I will always, always try harder. And Jennifer: I’ve got the thickest skin this side of Pluto. You have no idea.
If you kick me out, don’t expect me to return. If you have poor customer service, you don’t deserve my business.
I dined at MF Sushibar on Friday. Once my party had paid the bill, about $170 for a table of three, we did linger for a while to talk. But we didn’t ask for continued service or water refills. The wait staff never bothered us and never made us feel unwelcome. If the restaurant was at full capacity and I saw people waiting for a spot, I would have suggested that we move to another location.
If you don’t respect your customers, you will lose them. I had a bad experience at Emeril’s regarding a rude waiter … and you know what happened to that restaurant.
Put yourself in the server’s place. You are holding them up from waiting on someone else that will help pay their salary. We eat out 7-10 times a week, and I’m not talking McDonald’s. I have NO problem with a “hint” to move along after your meal.
I would not go back to a restaurant that asked me to leave. I know from my own experience how frustrating it is to have people camp out. it can be very rude and can hurt$ the server, but it is part of the buisiness.
I once hosted a business dinner for about 12 people. After about two hours (and granted we were constantly ordering wine and additional cocktails), the host stopped by and politely explained that he needed the room for the next reservation. Without asking, he offered to buy my group a final round of drinks if we would oblige him by moving to the bar. Excellent service, no embarrassment, and a final drink to send us off. You can’t beat good service.
The restaurant is in business to make money as is the wait staff. You had sat there for over an hour and a half. The longer you sat, the more money they lost. Obviously your head was inserted up your b–t and you had no consideration for how many people walked away because they had waited so long or saw the length of the line and drove off. More money lost. That is not your living room so get you inconsiderate a– up and leave. If you want to lounge around and talk over tea, go to your living room and flap your gums all night. Your inconsideration that you think you deserve to lounge around in their diner is mind boggling so maybe they weren’t concerned that you were offended.
Taking an an hour and a half at lunch at a crowded restaurant cuts the number of customers than can be served at this prime time by half. if you want to tie up up valuable assets the correct way to do it is by continuing to order. Otherwise you are simply not being reasonable – you would not expect to keep a hotel room or rental car or anything else twice as long when its in highest demand without compensation.
To be so rude about staying so long as to actually get thrown out likely means you are among the worst 1% of rude and/selfish customers. Its a reasonable choice for a business to lose that 1%.
How can this happen in our NEW country with our NEW leader. Our leader and congress need to stop this outrage. No more bailout money for this restaurant. The rest of us can get our free checks from our Savior Obama but no free government money to this restaurant. I’ll bet they would not dare ask our Savior to leave after 1.5 hours.
One and a half hours of sipping tea and chatting during the lunch hour? Who the devil do you think you are? The Queen of Freaking England? Eat your meal and get the frick out!
Sure, there might have been “other tables” opening up… but were they YOUR server’s tables? Probably not… so your server is losing tips because you are want to sit and flap your gums? MOVE YOUR ASH!
I bet you cackling women were there way longer than you’re willing to admit and thus the reason you were asked to leave. I also feel that you and your giggling gals have over-stayed your welcome there before. I know that when a bunch of hens get together and get to talking about shoes and other gossiping crap you forget the time and pay no attention to anything! It’s a place of business and not a sorority house! You had plenty of time and I don’t feel that the Tea house was wrong for asking you to leave. More than likely you were asked in a nicer manner than you’ve stated. Get over it and do your tea-gossiping gatherings at each other homes. Hahahhahahahahahaha!
No, the customer is not always right, but there are still a customer. You want to treat them with respect and great customer service. Customers are wrong, but treat them with good customer service. There are always two points of view to the story.To you, your party was having a good time and shouldn’t been asked to leave. From the server and restaurant point of view, you ladies should have known the 1 1/2hr table limit if you ladies have been going there for years. You must have read the menu at least once during that time. The server would like to wait on more than just your table to make some money during her shift. If you are going to hold up her tables for that long make sure you tip accordingly.
No, the hostess should not have asked you to leave. You shaould have requested a manager and spoke with the manager. The manager probably would have handled it a little bit more proffesional than a hostess. Remember, the hostess was probably trying to help out her server friend to make. If the manager was involved, this probablly could have been handled totally different where no one got their feeling hurt.
some money.
I would have been more considerate of a loyal customer. I am a lady too,and when the gossip and company is good I lose track of time.Maybe the bad publicity will make them see the error of their ways.I would NOT go back. Word of mouth goes a long way in this business.
The attitude at the restaurant is the issue. It’s easy to lose track of time whilst enjoying a meal and conversation. If they were rude to you….they’ll be rude to others.
Remember people, if you linger at a table after you are finished dining that is fine – make sure you tip the waiter nicely! After all you are taking up space at the table that another paying customer could have. No reason to kick someone out because they are finished with the meal.
Half the enjoyment is fellowship!
The only time it’s OK to kick you out of a restaurant is if you’re there with your smelly, sticky, bratty kids who are running around, annoying others, not using their “indoor voices” and generally just being disruptive. Leave my restaurant and, I don’t care if you ever come back – I have plenty of other customers who will continue to patronize my establishment.
I think asking you to leave was fine. You were not spending any more money, and were taking up a table that otherwise could represent income for your server. My guess is that you were probably given multiple hints before they finally asked you to leave, but you chose to leave these out of the story. They probably had finally decided to enforce the table time limit once they realized you were not getting the hint.
I agree with the majority here – you were being selfish here. The customer is not always right. What if you said, “I’d like my meal for free.” So – is the customer always right? Certainly not. “well, that’s unreasonable” you say. OK – then you understand that your hour and a half loitering is also unreasonable.
I am SO surprised that someone has been able to display his or her blatant racism and distain for President Obama in an issue that has nothing to do with either. I am so surprised!!! Some of you bloggers are such one trick ponies and I am so bored!
I’ve seen more adults act the way you describe than children. I hope I never have to dine in your establishment. If I ever do and get the attitude I hear coming from your “grown up” mouth, I’ll make sure I mention your restaurant to all I am able. And be assured it won’t bring you any business.
Go for it, Tom. Don’t need your whiny azz in my place, anyway. Sounds like you’re the adult version of one of those bratty kids – too bad your mama didn’t raise you well.
“Grown up” – wow – name calling (”whiny azz”), put-downs (”you’re the adult version…”), insulting my mother? Interesting comments from the owner of a “grown up” restaurant! You should have left your message deleted…
Why does everyone in this country feel entitled for compensation if something doesnt go right??? Get a life. When the wait is long to get into Brickstore I dont demand a free gift, and I wouldnt ask for one if they kicked me out.
Sometimes we linger. A group of girlfriends looses track of time, and yes, we tip appropriately.
We always warn them when our HUGE group walks in the door, we are loud and noisy. Put us in the back where we will not bother the other patrons. We may linger, but we will be sure to compensate our server handsomely!!!!
Some of you need to get off your high horse. Does this really affect YOU?
It amazes me how total strangers can be so mean and say hurtful things. Can’t we all just get along? Geezz people. Lighten up. We only get one go around at this thing called life, so let’s enjoy our time while we are here.
When I have stayed more than I guess comfortable time we always tip very well. Most servers don’t mind if they are getting the same tip as they would if they sat another group. They actually like that they don’t have to serve us that much but make a great tip. Everyone is happy.
Amen to you, Grown Up Restaurant Owner!! I’ll spend any amount of money to eat and converse without the screams of the spawn of parents too cheap to spring for a sitter. There is nothing more infuriating than lazy parents who are so immune to the noise of their brats that they sit back and inflict it on the rest of us.
I can honestly see both sides of the story. Yes my servers and restaurant need to turn tables during peak hours. However, I would never feel like it is ok to ask a guest to leave! The only exception is at the end of the night, when there is one table in the restaurant, we need to lock up for security purposes. Restaurants are in the business of serving people, and I think most respectable places will do whatever it takes to make the guest happy, even if it means slower table turns. What good does it do to upset your guests? You will end up with none.
I think that a restaurant is within its right to impose an hour and a half time limit. However, this situation was obviously not handled properly. A little customer service and ample notification BEFORE you were seated would have avoided this problem. My problem with this is that the “reader’s” version is the only version of the story we get, so I am sure she wants to sound like she is in the right. I believe that she was probably there longer than she claims or there would be no reason for her to be upset about being asked to leave after the time limit. As someone who has waited tables, I will say that most people don’t tip for their time spent CAMPING at tables and employees have a right to get frustrated if the stay becomes excessive.
One of my old bosses was so generous, he would take his entire staff to dine at Atlanta’s best at lunch for special occasions or just because. An “ordinary” lunch treat was the original Pilgreen’s in West End. His favorite comfort food lunch in the office was a fried Spam sandwich with mustard on white bread. He held a Master’s Degree in business, and was the epitome of refinement and good taste. Don’t tell Scott Peacock but I love jello with canned fruit cocktail.
As a former waitress, I understand the server’s want/need to turn the table. That said, I had people sit at tables for FIVE hours and then tip only on the bill. When you are going to take up a table for hours, then you should definitely tip the server based on the time you took the table from other tipping customers and not just the amount of the bill. Unfortunately, most people aren’t aware enough of this to do so. That said, we never kicked people out of our restaurant and like others have said, the bad word of mouth that this restaurant will get from this incident wasn’t worth it in the overall scheme of things.
Sounds like restaurantmanager has figured out what the owner of a “grown-up” restaurant has yet to learn. Hope they’re not at the same establishment, for soon we may find the servant is the master. Then again, that would be a good thing in that case (^;
This is simple really: the group stayed too long without compensation, the hostess handled the situation improperly. Two wrongs don’t make a right, so no one wins. Give it another shot, and follow the rules now that you are aware of them. Or keep ordering and/or inform your server that you plan to compensate them for the time. If mistreated again, don’t go back.
As far as kids in restaurants: if you don’t want them there, don’t have a kids menu. And parents shouldn’t take theirs to restaurants that don’t feature one. This isn’t rocket surgery, folks (^;
I have worked in several restaurants and I have seen managers offer after dinner drinks to the customers when we have a wait to relocate to the bar. I have seen rude customers who have dined from 4:30pm until 9:30pm with checks less than $100 for a party of 2 to 4 and the tip is horrible. Some customers are very respectful and will let the hostess or server know that they will be dining for awhile, to catch up with a long time friend or a business meeting. This is very understood. Customers have also stated that they will tip accordingly over the 20%. However, there are so many customers that could careless and feel like the restaurants should owe them something, because they are use to making a scene at restaurants. This is what some rude people do, they live off handouts. They don’t care if the server gets paid or not. This is why some restaurants after a certain hour charge for entry into their establishment. People want to be seen and want spend any money. If you feel the need to dine all day, have a luncheon at someones home and have it catered.
The owner of the “grown-up” restaurant reminded me of a Miss Manners column in which a manager indicated that people didn’t know how to act in “finer” restaurants. Her response began “finer than what?” and proceeded to berate him for expecting his customers to behave in a way that only benefited the management.
I think the restaurant was out of line to ask them to leave, unless it was after the lunch hour and they were trying to clean up. If there weren’t people waiting, whose business was the server losing?
If you want to spend time with your friends and take a leisurely lunch, why not invite them over to your home and entertain them there? If you really want to go out to eat, why not pay the check and relocate yourselves so that you can continue to chat? I have never heard of a time limit on tables. Something tells me that was some b.s. that was concocted by the staff in order to appear justified in what they were doing. I, too would like to hear their side of the story.
Hazer…….I don’t like misbehaved kids at a restaurant anymore than the next guy, but I think you are misguided in your advice. The kids menu isn’t an excuse for misbehaved kids. If your kids can’t behave, don’t take them regardless of whether there is a kids menu or not.
As for lingering…..that’s interesting. I guess I would argue that although in poor taste, who is to say what a patron is entitled to for their business. I don’t think 1 hour and 25 minutes is very long. What is the going rate per hour after and hour and a half to rent a table these days ? I don’t know. At some point, if I am dropping 200+ on a dinner and the waiter/waitress is going to receive 40+ dollars for 3 hours of her time……I don’t think they have a beef with me sitting there. But at the same time, I am not quite sure why I am supposed to tip the waitress more for running back to get my steak than I am for getting my chicken tenders just because they are more expensive, but I still do so.
I too feel that we did not get all of the initial story. I think there were probably more hints given than she is willing to admit, or maybe her party did not “get” the hints and were finally asked to leave. I honestly feel like 1.5 hours is more than enough time to have a ladies lunch. Any longer than that and you should move your little party elsewhere.
My personal opinion is, if you have finished your meal, and are not going to order dessert, drinks, etc., you should pay your check and leave. This is what I do when I go out to eat. If you continue to linger for a considerable amount of time and are no longer ordering, I think the restaurant manager should visit your table and kindly ask that you vacate the table for the next customer. If the hostess approached the group of ladies as described above then she went about it the wrong way. However, while her approach may be in need of some tact, I still feel that she was within the realm of what is reasonable to ask the party to leave. She did give them all complimentary tea.
I dined at the Fox Sports Grill two Summers ago for the first time. A long line formed outside, and even though I was continuing to purchase more food and drinks for myself and a friend, we were asked to leave to acommodate the next line of patrons coming in the door. Most of the so called patrons were just coming in to watch the games or loiter about. I felt it was rude to be asked to leave, especially when I was still making purchases. Needless to say, I won’t dine there again.
I work at a restaurant and we would never ask someone to leave. Yes, it stinks when people camp out at the table because it does have an effect on the server’s money, but it happens and you just have to deal with it.
As for the restaurant rule that the customer is always right, no they are not. I had a customer be so rude to me because he wanted loaded potato skins and I told him we didn’t carry them. He asked me how long I had worked there and I said three years and we haven’t had them since i’ve worked here. He proceeded to tell me that I was wrong and that he had them the last time he was there. About 5 minutes later he looked like a fool when he realized he was at Chili’s and not O’Charley’s. Also, I had a customer call me a b***h because he wanted a certain shot and we were out of one of the liquors. When I brought out the check he refused to pay it since he felt that if we were out of that liquor, he should not have to pay for ANY of his drinks. Again, WRONG.
I don’t fault the restaurant here; an hour and a half for lunch is excessive. I doubt the restaurant reallyneeds these self-absorbed, obtuse, rude folks.
One the one hand, restaurants – and servers – rely on “turning tables” especially during the busiest times of the day to generate revenue (and tips in the case of the staff). My guess is that these days this is more important than ever. On the other hand, customers should be allowed to enjoy the food and the service for which they have paid.
If a restaurant does not explicitly tell customers there is a time limit, then it should not enforce one, and jilted customers should never go back. If it does have a limit, customers should abide by it or just find a new place to eat. The market will determine the outcome. If a restaurant has sufficient clientele to enforce limits it will do so if it chooses. If it can’t afford to lose customers it probably will not – the caveat being it will put less servers on the floor and give them more tables to cover. You’ll end up sitting longer but will have poorer service. And, if you go to a place regularly and are identified by the staff as a lingerer, your service will be poorer still. It’s up to you!
The funniest thing you may read today is this quote ON THIS RESTAURANT’S OWN WEB SITE!
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Oops…sounds like they didn’t communicate that whole philosophy with the staff.
Seriously, an hour and a half!!! That wasn’t that long for a group lunch. Given that no advance notice was given I’d say she’s right to be upset.
I once tried to eat at Loca Luna on New Years Eve. Sat down, and was told, only at the end of our meal, that there was a 2 hour table limit. We had a table full, and had intended to spend the time snacking and drinking, so it would not have been a “cheap” table. We still had to go.
We tried to hang out, but the place was becoming so jammed with everyone else who was getting kicked off their tables but not leaving that we finally bailed. Went to one of our houses, and probably had a better evening than we would have had we stayed.
Guess how many times we’ve been back to Loca Luna?
Let’s try the quote part again. here it is
“When asked what she loves about tea, Tea Leaves owner Kim Jordy’s answer was simple. ‘Everything… the food, the ritual, the fact that you have totake time to slow down. You can’t rush the water boiling. You can’t rush the tea steeping. In today’s hectic world, it forces you to slow down.’ “
If I ever saw a time limit posted in a restaurant, I would turn around and walk out. If you’re too stupid to run your business in such a way as to allow for people to actually sit and enjoy themselves, that’s your own fault.
We don’t go to restaurants to be injected with some calories and a little pleasant tingle on our tongues. We go to spend time with people. Eating is part of it, but the gastrointestinal benefit can be achieved far more efficiently in other ways. If you want your business to be a part of the that most important ritual of life–eating meals together–then you need to plan accordingly.
As to the children, the best solution is for parents to train their children. They’re not monkeys. I have three, 8, 5 and 16 months, and all of them behave in the restaurant because we teach them to.
I would be very happy for all you child-hating, family and friendship-berating sour-pusses to go stick your mouths under food faucets and get a couple of pumps and leave me and my 30% tipping self and my family and my friends to enjoy a proper dining experience where we can find one in this barbaric world.
I think you waiters and “grown up” restaurant owners need to identify your restaurants to test out whether we think your philosophy is really what the market demands.
I don’t think a restaurant should kick people out unless they are being unruly or disruptive in some way. It’s not the customer’s fault if the restaurant has overbooked their reservations, or they are understaffed for the evening. If they want return business, they should try to leave the best impression possible in the customer’s mind. In these days of the Internet, word about poor treatment travels fast!
When I’m out having lunch with one particular friend, we tend to linger longer. We benefit the server by always tipping double and refer to it as “paying rent.” I don’t guess that helps the establishment, but if we saw lines forming waiting for tables out of consideration we’d leave without being asked.
(I was once married to a restaurant owner and am still aware of the need to “turn” tables…..)
I would LOVE to eat lunch and be in and out within one hour. However lately it takes 10 mintes to take the order, 20-30 minutes to get the food…even if it is a small salad and water, because “the kitchen is backed up with orders” at this point I am not going to wolf down my food so you can have the table ready to go in 1 1/2 hours. It is rude to think so.
I have eaten at this place for years and they are very busy and always nice to the customers. They run a excellent place and 1.5 hours is long enough to eat and visit. I’ve had to wait before because they were packed and my table would not leave. The owner has learned that just asking certain women finish up doesn’t work. Sometimes you have to be to the point to get the point across. Don’t over stay your welcome. This is a wonderful place to go and eat and the food is great.
Bottom line here is you are in a PRIVATE business. You don’t own it or have a major stake in its rise or fall. Eat and get on with you life. Why would anyone think it is ok to just hang out holding up people from making money and feeding their family? Oh wait that right we are now in the ‘It’s all about me” era. Write your President maybe he will tax them to death so you won’t have them to worry about.
I’ve come to the point, after reading all the wines and cranky people… If the location would provide good customer service and the customer would be polite with thier manners, this problem would be moot. However, I now believe a bunch of you ***ches should pack lunch at home.
I thinks these ol’ burds was gittin’ freaky n’ frisky an management just don’t need that around!
Ladies sleepin’ in they tea. Denture creams just stankin’ up the joint, and they been probably leavin’ nickles and stealin’ pickles- or them fancy sugar packets- fo’ years!
Catchin’ up on ol’ lady gossip? You can do that in back in th’ trailer! A tea house is a busness and yo’ busness was thru!
Don’t come all stanky-in up mah joint! Momma’d sick the dawgs on you!
I worked at tea leaves & thyme. Saturdays are busy. they are closed on Sunday and Monday. Partys are booked for 1hour & half. If you want time to chatt with friends, go on tuesday or wednesday.
The cruel comments on this board (and others) disappoints me. I was going to say “disgusts me”, which is accurate, but I don’t understand why people feel such a need to spew hatred. Well, I guess I do understand, their lives are so awful, that it makes them feel better to be cruel to others. And yes, I’m now prepared to be the recipient. Come get me. I use the same name (AJ) on every post, so fire away.
Let’s see now….Economy is in the crapper, people and families are living in tent cities, unemployment approaching 10%, a Marxist in the White House, No difference between Dimocraps and Reptbubs, gas at nearly $2 a gallon after going to $4 a gallon, President wants to make our wounded service men and women pay for their injuries by using their own insurance…..and here we are….debating an issue of how long a group of bored, air headed house-slugs spend over tea. There is no hope we are lost.
I think it’s fair to be asked to leave. It’s rude to the people standing, waiting for a table when you (who are sitting) see them obviously hungry and waiting. If you want to lounge after dinner, you should go home. Otherwise, keep ordering food or drinks so that the waitor and restaurant can make ends meet!
I have only been to Tea Leaves and Thyme once (and will never go back)about 7 years ago on a Saturday for a baby shower. I don’t think an hour and a half is enough, considering it takes a half hour just to use the restroom. They had everybody in that place packed in like sardines. You could not move, much less get up. I know you have to “drive a certain number of cattle” through to make money, but customer comfort is also important. People come in for special get togethers – it’s not ALL about YOU Mr. or Mrs. Owner.
People need to quit being rude and selfish and lingering for hours to eat like they’re the only ones in the place. If you want to sit and talk for hours, eat at home. Quit holding everyone else up and making everyone lose money.
I promise you that there is more to this story and of course the restaurant’s side. Lady said they were seated shortly after arriving. Subsequent patrons probably left and took their business elsewhere after having to wait so long for a table and there goes more profits/tips. Restaurant would probably be happy to lose this lady’s business. I assure you they were giving several subtle hints before someone had to “drop the bomb”.
If you’re concerned about the time element rent a banquet hall for an entire afternoon evening. That way when you have your special event, you can spend hour upon hour in comfort and leisure. Meanwhile, be respectful and allow a business to operate as such. To turn tables in a respective time and make a profit. It’s not ALL about YOU.
I met an old friend at Provino’s one Saturday afternoon. We had not seen each other in over 10 years. We told the waitress that we had not seen each other, and we would love to be able to sit and chat. They weren’t very busy, and we sat at that table for 3.5 hours. We tipped her very well. We also looked around, and noticed there was no one in the restaurant except us. The waitress was very accommodating, and at one point we told her we were fine, we just wanted to sit and talk. She was so very nice, and we sat and got all caught up. She never bothered us except to walk by occassionally to see if our waters were in need of refilling.
One of my friend’s mother has been a waitress for decades. Her experience is that the vast majority of lingerers don’t order much at all after their initial meal. This often means and hour or more of refills, all that service and not once more dime of revenue or tipping.
I’ve just spent my lunch break at work reading all the comments, yes, I’ve been a waitress, a hostess, and a guest at fine restaurants. What is my comment? What is all this fuss about? The only thing that came to mind was, how about all of the people who, in these hard times, can’t affored to buy enough groceries to feed their families. I rest my case.
Dear Voice – Regarding your 1:18 posting – Yes, there are serious problems in the world but we can’t linger on them all the time or we would surely go crazy. There is still room for visiting restaurants AND debating about our experiences there and there is also time for meaningful (and mindless) conversation, playing cards, joking around, watching Seinfeld reruns, petting dogs, walking in the rain, reading blogs, etc., etc., etc.
Once again a perfect example of the rules don’t apply to me syndrome. Now, I get to play the victim. The staff prompted this party 15 minutes before. Now upon being requested to leave, she gets an attitude of I’ve been abused. The reader was not a victim of anything. Maybe in the future she will be more considerate.
If the restaurant isn’t busy I don’t see any problem with relaxing and talking for awhile. However, I was in a breakfast restaurant recently where several groups were waiting for a table to open up and one man was sitting there slowly going through what looked like a months worth of mail. That was totally inconsiderate and rude!
Sitting at a table for an hour and a half is too long. I’m sorry. As a woman who has both been a server and a customer I understand the need for customers to get in and get out. Most people don’t sit down with their families to dinner for an hour and a half but the expect to go out to eat and sit there forever. Sometimes its not about how many customers are in the place. What if the table you were hogging only seats 4 and there was a party of 4 waiting and there were only tables for 2 available. Should you not keep it moving. Or what if you were that servers last table in her shit and she had something to do after work but couldn’t cause you were still yapping your mouth and she couldn’t close out. I think customers should definitely be more considerate when they sit down instead of acting like its always the server!
I’ve been waiting tables for years, and there are a *lot* of ways to silently (and politely)(and impolitely!) suggest that it’s “time to go”. But if my section isn’t full and the restaurant isn’t on a wait…then no, I don’t mind lingering.
But I also think there is more to the story than is being said.
I have been eating at this restaurant for several years now and have nothing bad to say about it… the food, the service, the teas… all very good!! As for the article well… I think it is only fair that they set limits for clients… 1st of all this is a VERY busy & small restaurant. You have to make reservations several days before and have to be there ON TIME… b/c people are always waiting!! It’s an obvious assumption that one would not go there for a 2 hour lunch!?!! So, quit your wining and go to Waffle house down the street if you want to take your sweet time “Gossiping”;)
Re: Children in restaurants. Your snotty nosed, squealing, loud, obnoxious, unparented spawns need to go to places that cater to the such. McD’s and CiCi”s are a few examples. Your spawns are only cute to YOU!! To the remainder of us, they are irritants.
If you know you are going to lounge around, sip tea, and chat for an extended amount of time after the meal then obviously time is not of the essence. Just be considerate enough to dine on the later side of the prime lunch hour.
Come downtown ladies for your next outing. We have plenty of wonderful places in Buckhead, Midtown, Virginia Highland, Downtown Decatur, Inman Park, the Old Fourth Ward, Poncey Highland, Candler Park and elsewhere where you can linger, gossip, chit-chat and enjoy a wonderful meal, excellent service, outdoor patios and each others company…for as long as you wish
Definitely okay. It appears that the two ladies were drinking 2 teas and nothing else. The restaurant is a business and it looks like they are going to be losing about $2.50 x 2 every Friday. I’m not sure they are going to be worried about the loss.
Those ladies should have a little respect and take their teas elsewhere.
If they couldn’t eat & talk within the time that she says, they should of went elsewhere..Like others have said, she probably had been given a nicer warning & ignored it..
I have been a waitress, cook & a bartender & I’ve dealt with some very rude people that just didn’t think that they needed to tip…I know that I’m going catch flack for this, but as a rule (IMO) women don’t tip as good as men, so I’m thinking that these ladies were known for being bad tippers & that’s why the hostess may have been rude to them..
Respectfully, I’ve gotta disagree with you on this one Meredith. I side with the restaurant owner here. Some people, want to be unhappy. The customer is not always right. Especially, if being impolite and throwing a hissy fit. Sorry.
Once again, the old sense of entitlement rears its ugly head. “We paid for our lunch, so we are entitled to hold this table for however long we wish.” Sounds like the restaurant owner was far nicer than I would have been. An intelligent person would not have to be told to move on, it seems to me. “It’s just us and the girls” is no excuse. What the customer could not appreciate is what if the person before HER at the table had decided to do the same thing and she had to wait for 45 minutes.
I lived in Europe for 2 years, mostly in London and I noticed something that I kind of liked about my dining experiences.
The waiters are paid minimum wage or higher. You do not have to tip, if you had good service, leaving between 5 and 10% is more than acceptable at even nice restaurants. The waiters are not rude, they leave you to enjoy your meal and conversation because they are not trying to hurry you out of there, cuz they are not paid a slave wage of $2 an hour. If you need something, you wave your hand and the waiter comes to see what you need.
I am surprised more people have not mentioned this as a problem in our restaurants here. I always feel rushed because I know the server needs to make money. I wish we would just pay them a respectable wage so our dining experiences could be more relaxed…
Last Father’s Day, my daughter and I treated her dad to his favorite steakhouse chain restaurant for lunch. This location was the first time we had eaten there and we arrived just as doors were opened for business. We were seated right away and ordered our lunch requests. We barely took a bite of our appetizers and sipped our drinks before our salads then our lunch meal arrived promptly. Clearly seeing the overabundance of food on the table, we had no choice but ask for to-go boxes. From that perspective you can clearly see that we were being rushed through our meal. My husband was disappointed at the way this meal was been handled on his special day. And worst part was there were hardly any patrons inside to justify the rush. We didn’t complain as we chalked it up to special day jitters and visited again a couple times thereafter. The second visit went smoothly but the third visit I had politely requested a booth near a window as it was somewhat dark inside. The waiter promptly refused and I was shocked to be denied this request as this again was early lunch and there were very few patrons. I had explained my reasons and still denied. Needless to say we did not feel comfortable eating there so we kept to our regular steakhouse location and let this steakhouse know this was “our home”.
Another incident took place a few years ago where I would occassionally drive the two hours to visit my family in Middle Georgia. They don’t have call ahead seating in some establishments there so we would just all drive up and meet up at the restaurant and put in one name and how many in the party as a group (usually about 9 of us). The wait time is usually one and a half hour. Well, this one particular time we were seated all but two as they were running few minutes behind, the manager stopped by our corner booth table to complain that we were not to be seated until our remaining patrons are here which my relatives explained they will be inside shortly. In fact they were trying to get into the lobby full of patrons. He wouldn’t let the matter go so finally I spoke up and said, Sir, we eat here often and seeing that I personally drove from Atlanta to meet my family and I alone picked this place to eat, I don’t think you should be harsh as you are to us. Secondly, rest of our party is outside trying to come in through your lobby so if you would kindly seat them so we can eat. Otherwise, I need the number to your district manager and another restaurant! I never clearly understood why we were seated first after waiting all that time and then denied the table – after seating us!!! He desperately tried his best to remedy the mood and apologize to us all but the damage was done. We had a laugh much later but it shows sometimes it is not the customers that is out of line.
Mark, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I refuse to eat at what I call “Crap on the Wall” restaurants (chain restaurants with all kinds of decorative stuff on the walls) because it’s a haven for selfish, oblivious parents with obnoxious kids. The sad thing is, even the more upscale places in ATL are becoming overrun with loud kids banging silverware, screaming, running around, climbing over booths, etc. And, no, I don’t hate kids. I just believe that there are certain places, like strip clubs, First Class cabins and nice restaurants, where they should not be allowed.
I am a woman and an excellent tipper (Becky)and a great customer. At the end of my meal I am usually complimented on how wonderful it is to wait on me.
That being said, I was in a resturant two years ago with some co-workers. We ordered appetizers, entrees, desserts and after dinner drinks. We continued to order. We were celebrating a large deal. The waitress came by a few times and we could tell she was anxious. I asked her if she needed the table. She stated yes, that it was one of the favorites. I told her no problem. She offered us two additional rounds of drinks in the bar section. We gladly took the drinks and left a hefty tip. She went out of her way to come and thank us (and chat with us) at the bar.
“Table turn” is how they make their money. If you are going to chat it up, go at non-peak hours. It is common sense and decency.
I side with the restaurant here, too, with the caveat that there is always a nice way to ask patrons to relinquish their tables. Regardless of how long the ladies were taking over their lunch, there was no reason for the hostess to be rude or abrupt, as it is not difficult for one to be firm and polite at the same time. If, in fact, the restaurant does have a 1 & 1/2 hour time limit, this should definitely be posted in a conspicuous place (I didn’t see the time limit posted anywhere on their website– if it’s this important to them, then they might want to remedy that). I agree with the poster who commented about the restaurants in Europe; I’ve had service that varied from great to mediocre (just like here), but never did I feel rushed or hurried along (in fact, in London, most establishments have two price tiers: one for dine-in, and one for take-away).
Victoria, they could be paid a respestable wage. Keep in mind though, prices would double and these little snots that wait tables would still expect a 15-20% tip.
All the problems caused when the business expects the customer to pay the employee’s salary directly. If they would pay properly, where a tip was assumed to be voluntary and a reward for exceptional service and the employee could still receive a fair wage, we wouldn’t have as many of these issues. Regardless of the minimum wage law, the business should should the responsibility of paying their employees fairly.
If you want to know the true colors of someone, just watch how they treat the staff at a restaurant.
Having been a waiter, and now eat out every day because I travel for work, “the customer is always right” motto is only appropriate when they act like a customer. If they go way beyond that, you can use the (what would a reasonable person do) test to figure that out yourself, then it’s not a bad thing for the customer to get fired. Anybody “customer” who treats a waiter, waitress or establishment with a complete lack of respect should be fired.
If a manager and/or owner has their staff’s back, then they tend to retain their best staff. Anyplace that has a consistent staff will always have better service than a place with a lot of turnover. Alfredo’s is the BEST example of this.
It looks like this tea place has been around for a while, so they’re doing something right.
Mark, make sure your spelling is correct. It’s human flotsam. If you’re going to try and be disparaging to an entire community, at least get the spelling correct of your sophomoric, racist hurls right.
At my restaurant (one of the nicer places in the city) we have to deal with all kind of rude customers complaining about every little thing plus all the unsophisticated rif raf that doesn’t know how to act in a nice place. Plus, they don’t tip the servers very well. In our facility, 30% tips are expected and if you leave less than that, you should go to cattle troughs like Chilis or O’Charleys, with the rest of the cheapos. If you come to my restaurant, you shouldn’t linger, since we always have a waiting list of important customers who want the table when they come and don’t like to wait.
Isn’t it amazing how rude behavior is usually defined as behavior we would not want others to impose on us?
I still remember working my way through college in a restaurant where people would regularly come in 10 minutes before we were due to close and sit for and hour chit chatting.
Staff should be courteous to the customer, but that should be returned by the customer.
You have obviously never been a server. Have a little self awareness, if people are waiting on a table and you are sitting there talking, you are rude. Consider other patrons, and the servers who are there to make a living, not to cater your conversation.
The U.S. should adopt the European system—pay workers a fair wage and abolish tipping, except for exceptional service, which is rare in the restaurants I go to. Many servers act like they are doing you some big favor by bringing drinks and food, and get annoyed when you ask for anything else.
I woke in the hospitality industry as well and feel the customer is not always right, sometimes they are drinking or just unhappy people who feel their server is there to be abused. Kids are fine if they are dining, realize again the server is not there to babysit and just as you would get angry at a yipping dog while you eat your kids can be just the same to other diners. One this is odd and the main point of the thread, while I have worked at places with 2 seatings(time limits on tables) its not on this places website. Should be if that’s the basic rule, state it politely with the tea menu, all tea services not to exceed 1.5 hours or something along those lines.
I hope they lose all their customers. I can not fathom being asked to leave a “ladies who lunch” tea party, unless I was having a psychotic episode in public.
I’m with the restaurant on this one. Those ladies are what is wrong with this country. Everyone feeling entitled and owed something. Thoses stupid women should not have been so inconsiderate of those around her. I will gladly go and eat at this restaurant very soon. Good going Jordy!!!!!
I disagree with Meredith. Hospitality over hostility? Sounds like your friend was the one offering up a heaping portion of hostility, not the restaurant. It sounds to me like the restaurant really bent over backwards for her, but like they said some people just cannot be pleased no matter what.
Like I and many suspected and voiced yesterday, there was indeed “another side” to this story – that of the restaurant, and I am very glad you followed up with their side. It sounds as if the only way that this customer would be satisfied was if she and her friends were allowed to camp out indefinitely at that table. She was not willing to settle for anything less. So I still side with the restaurant on this incident, as such an attitude goes beyond unreasonable. Perhaps this party should have booked enough reservations so they could stay all day.
Victoria – you must have missed yesterday’s discussion – the issue of “Wages and Not Tips” did indeed come up.
I think Jason is on the right track. Like any situation involving the public at large, there is a basic social contact when dining out. You, the customer, behave in a civil manner, which basically means being *considerate* to all parties involved (other customers, staff, owners, etc.). In return, the staff will provide an experience that is as comfortable and enjoyable as they can. Finally, the customer pays the bill and tips according to the level of service (current societal norms are 10% for crappy, but not unacceptable, service to 20%+ for exceptional service. Like it or not, these ARE the socially acceptable guidelines. Any lower and you ARE a bad tipper, accept it.) Therefore, if the either party doesn’t honor their duties under the contract, then corrective action is justified. In this case, Meridith, you’re right, to an extent. The restaurant should attempt to resolve the matter in congenial manner, which it sounds like the owner did (but how one does something is just as important as what he or she does). After the owner has made such an attempt, then it is his or her right as a business owner to throw ‘em out! Basically, it’s about all parties being considerate of those around them. Let’s work together people!
I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.
It is opening tomorrow huh? Lot of hype around this one, hope it comes through. About to fly to NY for a couple of days, and have some good pie, hopefully this will deliver.
varasano is getting all this press, he is not going to be able to handle the crowd. especially since this is his first place.
its going to get ugly. all the blogs love him now, but how fast will they turn on him? he is getting more hype that FLIP. can you make a pizza as fast as you make a burger? his oven better be HUGE.
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This book is a treasure and we are so grateful for Hans’ creativity and the amount of LIFE captured in the pages. We wish Hans and his family all good things. Buy this book! Thanks for covering the story for foodies, farmers and lovers of life.
It’s a great book with incredible images of life, food, family and all the South has to offer. I encourage you all to purchase this book from http://www.outofzbleu.com as Sarah the owner gives all proceeds to Hans and his family. Hans has just returned from M.D.Anderson and is still fighting to be well. Regardless, the book is a treasure and we are so glad to own a copy. Best to Hans in his recovery.
Asparagus and organic anything–not on the list. I’d have two Chambord martinis; crab cakes; unlimited crab legs (where someone has pulled the long, succulent meat out of the shells for me) with clarified butter dripping from the tips as I slide the crab meat down my throat; garlic mashed potatoes, sauteed spinach; creme brulee and MY sweet potato pie–a whole one. Eaten freely, without guilt. [And I'm now "Voice of Reason #1" since someone has periodically used my username!]
Voice of Reason #1, I agree your last meal except maybe the creamed spinach..Of course I would also be happy with fried pork chops, fried potaotes & biscuits..This is something that right now, I only eat maybe 1-2 times a year..Also the sweet potato pie, when my Mother made them for me as a teenager, she would put a merainge(sp) topping on them & sprinkle coconut on top..Talk about to die for…
Oh, and a couple dozen fried oysters from Cedar River Seafood in Hilliard, Fla. And, you might as well throw in a double order of hot wings from Three Dollar Cafe. Obviously, it’s the meal that’s gonna kill me. And, I’d like the hot blonde for an appetizer. Two of them in fact.
When my husband received a doctor’s report of terminal cancer, he headed to the Varsity for a chili dog. As we are both native born Atlantans, I’d do the same!
Gino’s East Suprme with Pepperoni AND sausage (the patty, not the crumbles), and a pitcher of draft 312. Sorry Lou Malnati’s. If I got a second to last meal, I’d be on your doorstep too.
It would have to be Danish lobster tails and a glass of Pescivino wine wisth a side of pasta marinara… if someone knows where I can get that let me know!
at the risk of starting a flame war Gino’s has got to be one of the most over-rated restaurants in the US. good? yes. best pizza in the universe? only in their dreams. I’d take a Mellow Mushroom house special over them any day of the week. back in the late 80s I’d have gone w/Everybody’s but they seemed to go downhill in the 90s (haven’t been in 10+ yrs).
either way mine would involve a NY strip smothered in stilton cheese, a lobster tail & an extremely expensive bottle of cab
Hans is one of the few true authors to put his name to a cookbook. Compared to “Eat Like There’s No Tomorrow” most cookbooks seem like a disjointed folder of recipes and shallow anecdotes. Hans writes and cooks like a virtuoso and produces the kind of cookbook equally at home in the kitchen and on the coffee table. His stories and photography are a vivid reminder of how guttural the desire for good food is and why it may be the most meaningful expression of life.
This is a serious subject and I highly advise you all to GET THE BOOK. What could have been Hans’ last meal wasn’t and I feel so lucky to know him. Follow his blog to get a better understanding. This is not a joking matter. Hanscooks.com
I don’t know this family but have watched Hans cooking show over the years. I can tell you that this cookbook reads more like a novel than a cookbook. It is so rich and well presented that it proudly sits on my coffee table rather than on a kitchen shelf. The crisp, clear photography is rare for a cookbook or any other type of book.
Hans’ cookbook is beautifully written and photographed. It’s become an instant favorite at our home and the recipes and family stories are heartwarming. Hans, may you find healing.
This is a BEAUTIFUL topic & I thank Hans for being heroic enough to share his experience & thank MFord for publishing it. Having assisted a few family members through terminal illness, I think people need to know what the affected person is going through & how to best assist him/her in his/her time of need. I think I’ll have all the shellfish I could stomach. I have such severe allergic reactions now that I’d prefer to be dead than deal with the whelts and itchiness.
This cookbook is not just a cookbook…Its a life story about a wonderful family with a history of being in a kitchen. Hans is heroic and is the most positive person I know. The pictures are amazing! This is well worth the $. Check out his blog and see what prayer and positive attitude will do to cancer! Hans’ has made so many people appreciate the little things in life and not to take anything for granted. Truly an amazing person!
This collection of recipes, beautiful photos and entertaining anecdotes is precious. Read between the lines– this is the legacy of an authentic soul and loving father to his children, not unlike The Last Lecture. Even if you hate cooking and have no intention of banging pots around, you should read this book, and then reread it, quote it and share it.
Interesting….I guess I never really thought about it. I can totally see how it would be uncomfortable though. To my recollection I haven’t been touched by many servers. I am not a fan of when they use inappropriate nicknames for your age group like “champ” or “baby”. Thanks for the thought provoking post
Since you bring up the gaffe by Mrs. Obama it’s funny how the mainstream press has treated this incident. If Mrs. Bush has done the same thing the Congress/Talking Heads would have asked for an impeachment, an apology from President Bush and his immediate resignation.
I can’t stand it when waiters pull up a chair and sit at your table with you – this has happened to me on numerous occasions. What makes them assume this level of familiarity? I’ll never know.
Another breach…assuming that because they are waiting my table that I want to have some kind of long conversation with them. Hey, I would have invited the waiter to lunch if I’d wanted to chat.
Another one…restaurant managers interrupting my conversations to ask me if everything is okay. First off, I’ll let you know if there’s a problem. And don’t you love when someone says, “I don’t want to interrupt, but…” and then they proceed to interrupt?
Meh, I don’t reallly care. I mean as long as we aren’t talking about a hug or something, that’d be kinda weird. I see the First lady faux pas as a non issue, generally my feelings about a slightly too friendly waiter/waitress.
People, get a grip! Life is too short to worry about little things like a waiter touching you. Yes, a touch from ‘a mere servant’ can be seen as a breach of protocol in some circles. But we’re not talking bear hugs or sexual assault here. We’re simply discussing a quick touch that’s friendlier than a handshake. Some people feel warmly towards others – regardless of that that person’s station in life – and feel that such connection can best be displayed with a warm human touch.
Robo you shouild be happy people actually care enough to ask how everything is would you rather have them do that or keep talking and then oops im out of water and nobody cares!!!!!!
I wholeheartedly agree with the quote from T.J. I served tables back in the day, I never touched my customers, AND I brought in great tips. You can be friendly and cordial and still respect someone’s personal space. I also dislike the use of inappropriate pet names.
I’m not your “baby”, so what makes you think I want you to refer to me as such? It definitely won’t help your tip – in fact – it will likely do the opposite.
Some people are more comfortable with be touched by strangers than others. Personally, my skin crawls when a stranger intentionally puts a hand on my shoulder or arm. Weird? Maybe, but I know I’m not alone in having that reaction.
If the waiter was a friend or if I was a repeat customer with and was familiar with the waiter, I’d feel OK with touching. Otherwise, I think it’s best to err on the side of caution and avoid touching customers. And it’s not about feeling “above” a “servant” — I don’t think of waiters as servants, just as customer service reps for a business like any other — it’s about getting creepy touches from any stranger.
I work in a restaurant that has a large base of “regulars.” I have customers who hug me which I’m okay with because I know them. If I don’t know you, I won’t touch you, and don’t want you touching me. The worst is when a customer will try to take something out of my apron, like a straw or a pen, instead of asking me for it. The apron is absolutely a NO TOUCHING ZONE!
Does anyone get the sense that this whole issue has taken on far greater significance than it deserves. The lady with her panties in a wad over being asked to leave apparently has nothing better to do than be (gasp!) offended. Yes, the situation could have been handled better, and usually is, but we’re only hearing her side. And after all, this was just a bunch of friends out for a little lollygagging one afternoon, not the dinner of a lifetime. Jeez Louise. Feel pity for this poor soul, because if she sweats little stuff like this, just think how she handles the BIG STUFF. The whole thing sounds like Billy Bob Thornton’s “victimization” on Canadian National Broadcasting. In other words, one big yawn. Fuhgedaboutit!
Sure, it’s okay if it’s appropriate and we’ve established a common wavelength during our time at the restaurant. A little touch on the shoulder? No problem. We’re not so precious that we’re off limits to mere mortals. However, if it turns into a “Bellisima” act from Saturday Night Live, that’s another story. No one, and I mean no one, gets to latch onto my wife’s leg like a Chihuaha…but me.
Meridith,
I’m afraid to admit this at my age(35) but I’m just as guilty as your daughter and her friend. I haven’t been to Dahlonega in a while but I do remember when my family and I would go for a day trip my sister and I couldn’t wait to go into the fudge factory. If we behaved ourselves that was our reward. I was and still am a traditionalist so I always got the typical fudge with nuts. My sister if I recall would always get either Penut Butter or one of the other flavors. I need to get back up there sometime and take my sister with me before she gets married just for nostalga. The candy store in Helen, GA isn’t bad either. If I remember correctly it’s called the Hansel & Grettle candy shop. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Easter!
I would agree with Darin. I’ve been a frequent customer at a few places on my side of town and I don’t mind a 1/2 hug(1 arm around the weist) from a server that has waited on me in the past on numerous occasions. But if I’m at a new place that I’ve never been then I tend to concur with everyone else, don’t get overly frindly. I remember the first time I went to Outback Steakhouse. The waitress/waiter actaully sat down next to me and got kind of close and acted as if they were a close friend of the family while they asked us what we wanted to drink. My parents were a little taken aback by that as well. Although, I must admit just from a typical guy’s point of view, if the server is attractive to me I really won’t kick up a fuss if they are a little more friendly than “Hi my name is so-and-so I’ll be your server today can I get you started with something to drink?”
You’re taking me back to my childhood again. I can remember growing up my Mom would often do a breakfast for dinner night. Usually when my Dad was out of town on business. We would usually do French Toast but if my Mom wasn’t too whiped out we would every now and then get to have pancakes. To this day, sometimes I will fix breakfast for dinner. Usually some scrambled eggs with cheese(3 or 4)some grits if I’m not too worn out from the day and if I don’t have to work the next day I’ll make some coffee for good measure. Given we’re talking about dinner hour I should probably brew decaf but I don’t believe in it. It defeats the purpose of drinking coffee.
God, we’re drowning in cookbooks, but this one really does sound like an unique tome — after all, what is food, if not about life and death, right?
As for my last supper, it wouldn’t be held sittin’ around a table with a bunch of swinging richards in sack cloth, that’s for sure. Instead, it would be served to me, my wife and daughter at a table in St. Lucia or St. John, overlooking an ocean sunset. It would be a meal of small plates, like little moments, like those that make up a life. We’d share memories, laughs and dreams. Bittersweet.
I’d start things off with a mix of Pacific Coast and Atlantic oysters on the half shell, foie gras swimming in a port/fruit compote, and a nice helping of unctuous pickled sea urchin eggs. We’d wash it down with crisp cava or champagne.
Next, we’d have bites of roast fish cheeks, soft shell crab — and for me, fugu (what’s to lose, right?). Heck, why not some glasses of vino verde or Albarino with this?
When the tingling from the fugu wears off, I’ll tuck into my favorite veggies, especially okra Madras style, southern mixed greens with pepper vinegar, roast brussel sprouts and beets, and cream corn. Maybe pair that with a Beaujolais.
Next, I gotta have linguine in red clam sauce with a bit o’ kick to it. And a glass of chianti.
Then, bring on Hungarian roast duck with caraway seeds, sauteed sweetbreads, slices of roast elk, Persian stuffed grape leaves and Greek-style thin lamb chops. Gimme a Zinfandel for this, because what is life i without a little Zin.
Final course is the killer: small portions of deep, rich chocolate mousse, tiramasu, cheese assortment with quince compote, and fresh fruit. And, one BIG bottle of superlative Sauterne to top it all off.
Now, kill me, please. Or pass the alkaseltzer.
Maybe I’m just not sophisticated enough or I can’t convince my palate to try something like? But to me it’s almost blasphomy to mix chocolate and beer into 1 concoction let alone pair them up. Granted, this is just my opinion but gracious that just sounds yuck! And the funny thing is I like beer and chocolate both. But you’ll never catch me ingesting both at the same time or pairing them up. But hey if it floats someone else’s boat, more power to them.
Trips to the mountains are a favorite past time for my husbad & I. We also love to stop at a great little locally owned restaurant in Gainesville right at the foothills of the North Georgia Mountains. They have a GREAT unique menu with local & organic veggies. Also everything is made in house! Try their salad meal with your choice of 3 sides & a hunk of the chefs fresh bread. And when I say sides I dont mean cream corn & mashed potatoes no sir….wonderful creations that feed our soul on every weekend adventure.
Are you kidding? No, waiters shouldn’t touch you. And more importantly, you shouldn’t touch your waiter! I’ve been a server for over five years and am shocked at how often guests touch me. Often they do it when arguing over will pay the bill but I think any contact should be avoided. Every time a guest grabs my wrist as a walk by, swats my hand away from a plate, or even reaches to get a pen out of my apron (that I’m wearing!) I am shocked and offended.
I don’t want my server to touch me. I don’t want my server to talk to me. I don’t want my server to look at me. It shocks and offends me if I have any human contact at all. What is wrong with you people? I personally love to go into a restaurant and have a colorful server. I love it when they are fun. If they touch my arm in a gesture of kindness…why would I be offended at that? If they touch my junk that is another matter. Who am I kidding? They can touch my junk as well. Get over it people. It is ok to be human.
Where, indeed? Last time I went to Season’s 52, a few weeks ago, the low-sodium options had been eliminated from the menu. I’ve enjoyed the very low sodium “spa cuisine” from Chin Chin, though. I could eat it every night. Decline the sauce that is offered on the side. It is wonderful as is. http://www.chinchinonline.com/menu.php?location=2&cat=Spa+Cuisine
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HONESTLY think the Atlanta-Obama-Journal loves to write on crime stories to sell papers. CRIME comes with “diversity” & urban life. You want DIVERSITY…..Crime comes with it..Liberalism
Don’t remember reading about increases in crime in urban areas during the GREAT DEPRESSION. Like I said, with DIVERSITY, the mixture of rich & poor in same area…the people left on the margins will pick up guns…..Atlanta is a breeding ground for crime.
Is DIVERSITY code for a racial class? If so, I agree. Some feel entitled, and something should be theirs because they want it. Hey. Newsflash: The rest of us work to get what we want. My income has decreased by some $25k in the past year. I do not feel as though I need to buy a weapon and take from those that have more than me.
Hey Aditto. This economy was inherited. Wonder what it would look like if there had been no GWB?
I am convinced of two things in regards to crime in Atlanta. One is that only the general population seems to be concerned about crime and not the elected city and county offcials of the metro area. If you say something about the rise in crime you’re considered racist. Why is this? Is it because everyone knows who it is out there doing most of the crime and if you mention crime, they know who you’re talking about. The second being that attitudes toward crimes must be cultural. What else can explain the lenient jury decisions we have seen lately. When Brian Nichols was not given the death penalty we said that in Atlanta we do not put balck people to death. There’s been on ONE death penalty conviction in DeKalb county in twenty years and how many murders have we had in DeKalb in twenty years? We do put white men on death row. Research it and see the numbers. Black voters in Atlanta will never elect a white male that’s tough on crime to any position of power. As a result of this, much like in Clayton County…..we have gotten just what we paid for.
Please don’t make excuses for the thieves and thugs! The low-lifes doing this didn’t just lose their job and decide to become a criminal to make ends meet. They are good for nothing, lazy bandits who think they are entitled to your hard earned stuff. (If I sound bitter, it’s because my home was burglarized a few weeks ago. The b..tards kicked in my back door and stole all of our toys.) I’ve been poor and it never occured to me to take someone’s else’s stuff.
What’s sad is that I would LOVE to live in the city but refuse to, strictly because of the thugs/crime. It’s pretty sad. They have even caused problems at Atlantic Station already. And people wonder why the “white flight” thing took place decades ago? Because they knew what was coming! Pretty funny how you never see racist Jackson or racist Sharpton have “protests” against all of the crime the thugs cause.
It’s not only non-whites commiting crimes in Atlantic Station. I met my daughters there for lunch one Wednesday, and before they arrived, I was verbally abused by 2 white punks. They looked old enough to know better, but they were smoking cigarettes and wearing baggy pants and slouching around. I never even glanced their way before they walked up in front of me and started their BS. Little a-holes! Am I just having bad luck or does this happen to everyone?
You people are hilarious… By Mike Vick supporters I’m assuming you are saying blacks. Of course, you’ll just deny that like you people (read between the lines) like you always do.
I have heard people blame it on the economy. That’s a joke. Look at some of the people on the videos they’re looking for and you tell me if those criminals ever had a real job and that they’re victims of a bad economy. The only part of a bad economy that affects them is that the pool of victims may be smaller. How many of them came here with one parent from New Orleans post Katrina? Do a study on that one Mayor Franklin, with her open arms and open wallet policy towards so called Katrina victims.
As a waitress who works very hard to put myself through school, I absolutely hate to wait on some (not all) of those so-called Mike Vick “Fans.” So often, (not always) those particular people will complain to my manager about something that didn’t happen with either the food (a non-existent hair in the pasta) or the service (server got their order wrong) in order to get part of or their entire meal for free. If some of them don’t get what they want in terms of a partial or complete “comped” meal right when they want it, they threaten to sue us and get all of us fired for mistreating them. On top of that, they don’t even leave a minimal tip, either. Why do people have to be like that just to get free stuff and hurt other people?
Smaller donuts??? Are you serious? I can’t put down a dozen of hot Krispy Kreme glazed donuts in 20 minutes after a hard night of partying at the clubs. Keep those donuts big and hot baby!!!
Let’s see… Teens arrested for $100,000 damage to Canton church… Girl, 13, stabbed getting off school bus … Argument led to deadly gunfight, police say … Mother killed in Snellville store parking lot … So much crime in Atla– er, wait… all those crime headlines (copied verbatim from the AJC today) happened in the SUBURBS!
Go ahead suburbanites, keep cowering in your make-believe “crime-free” paradise… while you sit in traffic waiting to turn onto your dead end street miles from nowhere, we’ll be walking down sidewalks, through parks and to interesting destinations here in the city… with probably the same amount of crime around us as you have in the suburbs.
When that “hot doughnuts” sign starts to flash at the West End store, it’s like a big magnet that sucks the cars into their parking lot & drive thru in 30 seconds flat. Who da heck wants smaller doughnuts?? KK doughnuts have been the diamond ring on my finger, since I could talk. If the frequency in the “hot doughnuts” sign would increase, there wouldn’t be a need to downsize the company. Go back to the old supply & demand rule of Econ 101 and keep those big dougnuts coming!!
Dante’s Down the Hatch. Been several years since I have been there, but our tiny table barely held the food, wine glasses, and the pot of boiling hot oil. Oh, it was a little rickety also. We actually discussed if one of us would be doused in oil before the evening ended.
There are a lot of people eating out prehaps not where you live “who cares”. In my area i go to, different resturants, there’s
still a wait time of 15 to 30 mins depending on where you go. I don’t care how small the table is as long as i can enjoy my meal.
I remember the old Arby’s near northlake, before it remodeled in the late 1980s, only had a handful of seats with a few really small tables. I’d imagine that all of the old-style Arby’s, with the inverted curved roof, were configured similarly.
No restaurant tables aren’t too small.. diners are too fat. There are more obese people today than ever. I feel so sorry for fat people when I see them at a restaurant, people stare and make fun of them. It must be hard to be overweight in society.
It’s a marketing gimmick. The smaller the table the larger the meal appears to be and the more people per square foot that can be seated and served. It also keeps customer from getting too comfartable so as to get them out the door quicker. Turnover people! Turnover!
If the restaurants would not clutter the table with so much stuff; i.e. dessert menus; drink menus; sales flyers, etc. then there might be enough room. I find that I have to place these items on the ledge or floor just so we have ample space to enjoy our meals.
I eat like once a month now. I agree with bbb, I am glad I can afford to eat. When my mom says why dont you come over for dinner tonight, I am like I will be there. I don’t care if it is something I dislike, I will be there eating it and enjoying it. I don’t have the money to go out and eat. Thankfully, I don’t have any children.
LOL! I went to Dairy Queen last night and watched an obese slob prop his belly up on the table after squeezing his corpus maximus between the seat and the table. It was disgusting. He ordered a hamburger, french fries, large coke and a chili dog on the side. Thank goodness for large tables at Dairy Queen or else he might not have had room for his oversized gut and all the food he ordered.
If I can’t get a table I like, I leave. Maybe it’s too small, maybe it’s poor placement. It happens. It’s not that big a deal; chances are I won’t return, but it’s not as if the restaurants need to be concerned about that — people tend to have very low expectations of them.
We eat out a lot. Including lunch, I probably eat out 10 times per week. The food’s better at home, but we like being able to relax and not have to clean up. There aren’t that many restaurants worth returning to, but among the ones we like are the pizza joint, this 1 Chinese place (man, the chinese joints get the worst health scores!), soup & salad, a breakfast place is hard to find. Nothing fancy, except on special occasions.
Ha! We eat out a lot, but it’s a rule to never enter a burger joint, nor the Awful House, or any of the disgusting food specialties. Yuck. I’d rather cook and clean up.
When my kids were small I get them Happy Meals and throw away the ‘food’. All they wanted was the toy, anyway.
Seriously though, how many people order 4 appetizers and entrees? The tables are smaller so that they can push them together for large parties or leave them solo for parties of one or 2. It’s about turnover. Your server should be able to stage your order so that it doesn’t pile up on the table. Of course, this is the U.S. where dining out is a more like a sprint than a marathon.
Of course they are. They are done that way so the owners can cram more people
into one space. If you get a meal/plate of any size you will find that it is hard
to manage cutting your meat. But who really cares besides me?
I will put up with smaller tables if I have to, but I won’t return to a restaurant where the tables are very close together. When I’m out to dinner with my spouse or friends, I am not interested in sharing anyone’s conversation.
Heck, if you think the tables are small in Atlanta, come across the pond for a visit. The wife and I are living abroad for a year while I study at a University in England. The tables when we eat out are tiny! Worse, though, is the English tendency to sit you right next to an occupied table — even when you’re the only two occupied tables in the place!
I, for one, welcome the large Atlanta tables when I return.
Yes, most restaurant tables are too small and too close together, and it has nothing to do with the size of the diners. It’s about not having enough room on the tabletop for your plates and drinks, especially considering the huge portion sizes and oversized plates used at many restaurants.
Tables are tiny because restaurants are trying to cram in as many tables as possible. More tables means more diners, which means more money. Plus, with the spaces so cramped, no one wants to hang around, and fast turnaround means the restaurant can serve more diners and make even MORE money.
We get around all that by trying to get a booth whenever possible. The tabletops are usually bigger, and there’s no one crammed up right next to you. Plus, the seats are usually cushioned, so they’re more comfortable to start with.
The size of the tables shouldn’t matter as long as you have ample seating. Unfortunately, restaurants are trying to pack as many people in their establishments without waiting so patrons won’t go elsewhere. In today’s economic times, those who can afford to dine out will experience less wait time and/or flexible reservations. Additionally, walk-ins with available seating at peak times will be the norm.
I agree with the comment on Dante’s. We were sat at a converted Civil War sewing maching table. The table was not even 2 foot in diameter. And of course no way to put your legs under the table. The best part is I got to sit in the main entering area beside the hostess. Thank God! Dante was there to move us to another table.
I lived in France for a couple of years. Their largest tables are smaller than our smallest tables yet they turn out better meals and service than almost anyone here. One hint as to why. Their plates are not the size of hubcaps.
My word there’s just a bit of vitriol in this blog (”who cares” this and “get a life” that)! I know it may shock most of you who rampantly complain, but some of us are fortunate enough to not be burdened with multiple kids, mortgages, cars and/or ex-spouses and can still afford a meal out.
Now – with that said – although I LOOOVE 4th and Swift, some of the tables are a bit small in surface area. I don’t really mind them being close together because I’m generally the one with the loudest mouth and have NO problem being heard over multiple conversations.
And I TOTALLY agree with the poster that complained about too much accoutrement on the tables. That’s generally only in chain restos BUT, even when in a chain I don’t want to have to balance my meal over a placard or two.
Why do so many people get upset at an article like this? a) it is the dining out section, so it is appropriate. It is not the front page, for crying out loud. b) If it is such a waste of time or space, why comment on it? Doesn’t that mean you actually read the piece, which is the whole point? and c) If you never eat outm for whatever reason, why even ready the article? Who is the real loser?
The tables were horribly close together at Pano’s and Paul’s. After one dinner there, the lady at the next table said to us, “it was so nice joining you for dinner.”
I like restaurants with small tables – there’s no room for kids! It forces people to leave their kids at home and not subject us to their screeching and screaming, spitting, and diaper smells.
Grumpy, if only that were true. I’ve been crammed up next to tiny tables with screamy/squirmy small children more than once (and that doesn’t even count the people who are allowed to block the walkway by putting a highchair at the end of a booth). I don’t blame the kids, though; it’s the parents who cause the problems by not parenting.
People, I’m sorry my humor is too subtle for you. My character A. Teesman = 80s man, a fellow seemingly trapped in 1980s Atlanta injecting himself into a conversation about modern day Atlanta. Get it?
We would go to one on Jimmy Carter. It’s funny you mentioned those two spots as they were the only places to eat in Gwinnett County when my family moved there.
I can live with the small size but when the person next to my two-top is closer than the person across the table I came to be with – well, I draw the line there. Unfortunately, my wife and I are missing out on a lot of good Midtown restaurants because they have this ridiculously cramped line of two-tops against one or two interior walls.
Obviously, the “mford” was not talking about a fast food restaurant or a restaurant that seats children at high chairs. Notice the reference to the Ritz Carlton which set the tone for the responses. This is a commentary on fine dining.
Atlanta and Athens just don’t have the talent that you find in Charleston. There are more first rate restaurants in a few square blocks in Charleston than in all of N. Georgia.
Sounds like some people are a little homesick… and those people are from Charleston and New York & Chicago.
There are great restaurants everywhere, not just NY and not just Charleston. Oh and if you’re talking about “first rate” restaurants it’s funny booger, because… what? What was that I heard? Oh right…
The Dining Room at the Ritz-Carlton in Buckhead (read: Atlanta) is one of “only three restaurants in the United States have received the Mobil Five-Star award for more than 10 years.
I am totally a fabbo food critic. I’m cool because even though I’m almost 50, I call people dude. I get stupid drunk and hang all over all the chefs in town. They let me too because the want a good review. People love me and yet fear me at the same time. Bow down to me.
I agree with the first guy that left a comment – who cares? Just visit my blog… So You Want To Be a Banquet Manager? You think being a banquet manager is glamorous? You try dealing with cranky chefs and bitchy waiters all day – and that’s without the nasty customers. Visit my blog and see what it’s REALLY like in this crazy profession.
If they make the donuts smaller, people will just eat twice as many. Come on…what are they thinking? So You Want To Be a Banquet Manager? You think being a banquet manager is glamorous? You try dealing with cranky chefs and bitchy waiters all day – and that’s without the nasty customers. Visit my blog and see what it’s REALLY like in this crazy profession.
Hey Ted Striker: the only reason I didn’t spam the heck out your tacky comment is because it actually made me laugh out loud.
Thanks for the thoughts, all. Sure, not everyone orders as much food as I do, but I still think we need a little more room on most tables.
I wouldn’t say I judge or if I do, I don’t mean to. I’ve looked and thought, he must be a vegan or they must be having a special dinner and then I must admit, I’ve peeked at a few carts and thought “oh those foods are so unhealthy for those kids”
I admit I do it, too. Then I look proudly at my “sensible” basket.
What can really give you the chills is seeing what kids bring in their lunchboxes. For many, it is all JUNK or highly processed, sugar-laden, high fat, salt, or additives. One little girl I pass by every day has YET to have any significant source of protein (like a sandwich or some cheese). Then her mom wonders why she is spaced out in Math class an hour later!
Lots of folks I know get angry when they see someone’s basket who then pays with food stamps (old days) or welfare EBT. Or the large families who have WIC vouchers.
Yes. Especially if there are lots of junk and processed foods with absence of fresh fruit and vegetables. Add chubby kids to the mix and I can’t help but wonder if the parent just doesn’t know any better, and that maybe they should. I try not to do be nosy, and I don’t think anyone would accuse me of being a snob. I would NEVER say anything to or about anyone, stranger or acquaintance.
Yes, I am totally judgmental. But not only that, you can tell a lot about a person’s life by their groceries. Lady with Lean Cuisine’s, Diet Coke and cat food probably lives alone…..
Catlady, I never thought about it until you mentioned that some people get angry when they see people paying with EBT cards or WIC vouchers. I tend to get an attitude, not because the persons have WIC or that they have EBT cards. When I see 4-6 litttle extremely chubby stairsteps with thier parents and 2 grocery carts and not a vegetable or fruit to be found I get an attitude. I see processed meats, surgary cereal, soda’s, kool aide, cookies, chips, ribs and wings….I don’t even spot an onion or rib of celery. This is sooooo sad. Yes, I then chalk up the size of the children and the parents because of the contents of thier grocery carts………so I guess, in my own way I judge more than I realize…..would I ever comment to anyone about the contents of thier cart……OH NO!!!!!!!!
McDonald’s apple pie is good for a quick fix if you can’t find a Church’s chicken nearby. Otherwise, the fried apple pie at Church’s is very tasty…especially w/ the icing!
Without a doubt it’s Spicy Fried Chicken @ Popeyes. And the fried greasy pies at the Varsity. Did I mention my Mom’s Fried Okra, Fried Green Tomato’s, and especiallyi for me, a fried Bannana and Peanut Butter Sandwich!
A moonwalk with beer and bbq in the belly is probably NOT a good idea … :0)
I love my bbq but an entire day of it is just too much for me now. The last “fest” I attended was the Big Pig Jig down in Vienna, GA (loved every minute of it) but after a day of bbq and fried Oreo cookies, I was done. Gluttony isn’t pretty on a 38 year old.
I do hope they raise some money for the Boys and Girls Clubs, though – that’s a great thing.
Hey Brill… I’m a transplant from CT and have been smoking ribs, etc for about 25 years buddy. Just because your wife was apparently running with the wrong crowd isn’t an indicator of what “barbecue” is in New England. Enough of your slanderous speak.. I trust you not.
Please add a week to your travels good folk and come to Gainesville, GA, May 30th for the Brenau Barbecue and Banjos event. Sanctioned by the Memphis Barbecue Network and the Southeast Bluegrass Association, this event brings together the great food and sounds of summer. Located on the campus of Brenau University, the event runs 10 am to 6 pm. Admission is $5 per person and there will be activities for kids and vendors supplying goods for summer. Twenty pro cook teams returning from Memphis in May are expected as are twenty “Backyard Braggart” teams. No outside food or drink is permitted. Money raised benefits the local student scholarship fund.
Steve Bornhoft, a great writer on Florida’s Gulf Coast once, wrote about some carnival rides near the county pier at Panama City Beach as, “offering enough centrifugal thrill to separate a spring breaker from his beer load.” The moonwalk may do that at the above event.
“THE CHOCOLATE BAR” in downtown Decatur on West Ponce de Leon still ranks as one of the best places in Metro Atlanta for cocktails! Several well-known celebrities choose to frequent this establishment because of its quaint appearance and location which is comfortably nestled in the middle of downtown Decatur next door to Ted’s Montana Grill. While their drinks are a bit high, they are one-of-a-kind specialty drinks and mix well with the handmade chocolates served on site. Two thumbs up!!!
Elevation Chop House & Skybar at McCollum Field in Marietta. Seeing planes flying in and out is so cool and the food is awesome! Great bar and the Nitrogen Margarita’s rock!
The Troll Tavern in Helen. There are plenty of places to chill, have a drink, and sit by the river in Helen. The Troll Tavern seems to be a little more fun loving than most others.
Romance novel sales are up as well.I most likely would indulge in chocolate and not beer while reading a romance. Even better read a romance about chocolate and save the calories.
Actually, it’s not that there is “nothing better in this world to complain about??” It’s that the subject of this blog is specifically, do you do this too? There are probably other blogs and forums where we could complain about more important things. Also, there is nothing wrong with people-watching. Sometimes there is even something to be learned.
I’ll give this place a shot….but I don’t expect it to match up to the already excellent Steel sushi restaurant further south on 8th and Peach. I’m a regular. The deco is classy, and the menu is delish.
Love, love, LOVE that bar in the CNN center. The one right outside the restaurant on the second floor. It over looks the park. Great drinks and appetizers too. Just love it.
The bar atop the Glenn Hotel is fantastic – comfy white couches and a lovely view of Centennial Park and beyond. Both Six Feet Unders have a great view too, as well as the outside area of JCT Kitchen’s bar.
CROSS CREEK CAFE /just off of Moores Mill Rd. When the weather is pleasant you can’t beat the view from the elevated deck of the large, duck filled pond, surrounded by the vibrant green golf course.
I’ll 2nd the Sundial. It’s simply unbeatable. Yeah it’s WAY overpriced but to be able to sit in one place, have a couple drinks and have a rotating view of the entire city all the way to the horizon is still amazing. It’s a shame more of the skyscrapers here don’t have rooftop bars/restaurants.
Whoops. Forgot another. Capitol City Grille in Buckhead. But only if you are sitting at a window table on the South side. You can see all the way to downtown.
Turner Field shows it best; anything in the Centennial Park area; and though you can only have a coke and a reason (to be there), an interesting and picturesque view is from an upper floor at Grady Hospital looking north (great contrast with rising buildings on the left and open city to the right adn distant northside straight ahead).
I second the Two Urban Licks nomination. Wonderful place for an infusion, pulled pork, and then a lollipop after dinner. Midtown looks like Oz from the patio.
Everyone – get super excited about this! I’m from Arizona…one word…Amazing. The RA in Tucson and in Scottsdale were always the best place on Sunday for Industry Nights, with reverse happy hour and the one in Tucson always had a DJ. Can’t wait for this one in Midtown to open!!!
so i guess Ludacris was not lying on that song “On Top of The World”..”put one of my partners right through culinary art school, now he my personal chef so that bread he get it”
oh, i thought it was, like, black and straight, and no fags or white people for that matter, allowed, lest you want the gold-plated glock to the temple is you bullet proof honkie, throw da body in da dumpster……..treatment. They glare at you when you walk by if you are gay, sho nuff.
I’ve dined there, the food is good, the service is just ok. People go just to see who’s there. I think the front of the house staff could be a bit more friendlier. They are there observing as well of what celebrity or athlete walks in the door. It’s another Justin’s restaurant.
It’s a fabulous restaurant – the food is great and the service is good too. Its a pretty place, and just nice if you want to sit at the bar and have a drink….tried a drink called “red head in the bed” and it made me want to be one….lol
I went one night here recently and Luda was there – he’s cool and he seemed genuine when he said “thanks for coming” – I will go back because of that. Of and the food is good too!
Brisket and links is not bbq, that’s just called meat. There aren’t any good steakhouses here either! I could sure go for some Two Brothers bbq right now, but no I’m 800 miles away!!!
Abattoir? Are you kidding? Is this a Hannibal Lecter chain? I certainly don’t want to be reminded of the horrifying slaughter of the meat on my plate. Ghoulish, not delicious.
Some of the attitudes here are questionable at best. I think we all tend to forget where our food comes from and the fact that there is more to an animal aside from boneless skinless chicken breasts, pork chops, or ground beef. While you may not find amusement in the name or what will be served at this restaurant, to say that “the menu items are disgusting” is frankly, ignorant and naive. I mean that in the nicest way possible, of course. For all of you who don’t think the food here will be appetizing, you certainly have your right to an opinion, but don’t fault the highly respected and skilled chefs/owners for thinking outside the box. I for one am happy that these chefs are adventurous enough to open a restaurant like this. It brings variety to Atlanta. And one last cliche comment; don’t knock it ’till you try it.
Hear hear, Drew. I’m told by chef owner Ann Quatrano that the price point will be much lower at Abattoir as well, making it a clear competitor for places like Holeman & Finch, which is wildly popular.
@MFG & @Jimmy: Had dinner there tonight … err … last night …. according to the gang at the restaurant, they are holding off on lunch for the near future …
God hate Moon Pies. When I tried them for the first time when I was little, I threw up after 3 bites. Even now, just looking at them makes me nauseated. OOO this picture is not helping. Bye y’all…
Moon pies are the best. I love the vanilla and orange. Moon pies remind me of my granddaddy. He would always bring back moon pies after he had fished for hours on end. The grand kids that didn’t go fishing would meet him as he got out of the car looking for the moon pies. Those were the good ole days. I don’t know which we enjoyed more, fresh fish, which we had several times a week or the moon pies. He fished 3 or 4 times a week so we ate moon pies often.
The best of all are Tastykake products. They are made in Philadelphia and have a large selection of goodies, although all varieties are not down here Try their chocolate cupcakes and butterscotch krimpets. Publix carries them.
I’m not a huge fan of Moon Pies but my husband is! He likes to put them in the microwave until the marshmallow part swells up real big and gooey and then eats it with a fork.
Juanita…..your butt is probably wider than mine from all of the grease in your guts! You are an ugly, ignorant HEIFER. Get a life…and try to find some manners. Your reply was totally uncalled for.
I think I love Drew (05-21-09, 11:49am) … or at least, Drew’s ‘tude regarding food. I’m currently away from the city on holiday but as soon as I’m back, I’m Abattoir bound! ~
My word, ladies … it’s a d*mn Moon Pie! They’re tasty and all (although I’ll bet most of us have a more sentimental attachment to them than gustatory) but they’re not worth the name calling and anger!
I ate there Thursday and the menu is well thought out alllowing the more adventerous to explore while having numerous well executed dishes more typical for the southeast. With only 2 dishes over $20 it is timely in today’s climate.
Shout on Peachtree St. has a a great roof top area ton enjoy drinks and great appetizers($10 all you can eat appeitzers on Monday’s, so a great way to end a work day). I miss the vibe @ Verve Lounge, kinda sad it closed….definitely check out the Sundial Restaurant @ The Westin Peachtree Plaza….great views and not so bad prices….not all the expensive, in my book.
The new 5 Seasons Brewing in the Brickworks has great rooftop seating with a view of midtown. Also come with the best beer in town. Another good spot is the rooftop bar at FAB.
Can’t wait to see this one. Schlosser changed the way I look at all food after reading his book. It’s time for us to take a step back and really look at what we are putting in our bodies. Cancer rates aren’t this way for no reason, nor is obesity at the levels it’s at just because people “can’t put down their fork.”
GET READY ATLANTA!!!!!! This place rocks!!!! I’ve been to other RA locations and it’s a party not only in your mouth, but all around you!
And the wait staff…… HOT and ANYthing but your typical dull waiter/waitress!!
(check out MONICA)
Home grown heirloom tomato, chopped Vidalia onion,fresh ground black pepper & Hellman’s mayo on fresh white bread. Mmmmm…….. Le redneck gourmet vegetarian sandwich.
DX that’s called a “mater” sandwich where I’m from! NC. Also, fries in the Frosty are the bomb, I have to be in the mood for it though. What about bananas & mayo minus the peanut butter?
I’ve eaten syrup sandwiches, toast w/syrup on it. Yum.
What is the point of posting on a topic just to write “who cares?”I read a Vegan book recently and though I do not plan on giving up animal based food products anytime soon,it did reveal information about the FDA and USDA and how lobbyists have their hands in the government’s pockets to determine what is best for our bodies. I have cut back on my beef and pork intake since then and I already feel lighter.
My father ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches, peanut butter and vidalia onion sandwiches and sometimes all three. I like peanut butter and banana but my parents always added mayo, too.
BBQ sauce mixed with sauerkraut was introduced to me by my ex-mother-in-law and is great. Hot or cold, no less.
I prefer A-1 on my baked potato to butter (leftover from a diet years ago)
And for you Yankees – find an old 8 oz. bottle of Coke and put salted peanuts in it.
Diced or sliced crisp Red Delicious apple splashed with cider vinegar! Love it, love it! Another blissful favorite is ketchup on tossed salad (but my daughters won’t let me have that in public.)
Peanut butter and popcorn sandwiches helped me survive as a starving college student. They’re filling and they taste great. Almost 25 years later, I still eat then once in a while. Yum!
my son Timmy when he was in grammer school could not eat but one sandwich and he liked bologna and mayo and p nut butter and jelly so he put the two togeather and made bologna p nut butter and jelly and he still eats it today as a grown man
Collard green sandwich=white bread, collard green. Not that I have ever tried it but my aunt says it tastes great! Yuck! Ketchup on scrambled eggs. Yummo!
Razz-I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO ATE PB AND LETTUCE SANDWICHES!! I LOVE THEM!! Are you from the midwest? I ate my first one at the deli in a Yonkers store… good old days!
Chocolate and banana anything. My usual midnight snack is a banana and chocolate soymilk smoothie made with ice and artificial sweetner. Probably not that weird of a combination–but my favorite combination.
It’s because there’s too damn many people in the world. We keep ending wars and making cars safer. The natural attrition isn’t happening anymore. Welcome to overpopulation.
Very depressing. I don’t see anything wrong with the location either, except the parking was a little ambiguous. Good looking place too. Atlantans need to get out and support their favorite places soon or there won’t be any. Local restaurateurs are already calling this summer the “summer of death”!
It’s very interesting to me that there is a movie about what type foods we intake into our own bodies. Food,Inc. is an eye opene 4 me.Hopefully, I will get the chance 2 see this one.
I agree with Chris!! Most of these places are hardly bargains. My picks: Top Floor (Midtown), Across the Street (Inman Park), Mali (Virginia Highlands), Holy Taco in East Atlanta (great terrace!) … anyone else?
Come on Chris, Ms Ford is known by every person who owns a dining establishment. Think she EVER pays full price for anything or gets anything other than preferential treatment? Check out the flap over her caterer at her wedding…………
Hands down, no place is more romantic, beautiful or unique than the rooftop at French American Brasserie a/k/a FAB, it’s perfect. Their drinks are unreal, try the Zeus and the view is unforgettable. We love taking our friends there for before dinner drinks and also just stopping in for a quick bite. Do not miss this Atlanta must-see!
The new 5 Seasons Brewery Westside @ Howell Mill and Marrietta Street has an amazing new space called the Sky Bar. Awesome views of the skyline and what I believe to be the best Beer in Atlanta hands down. Plus the food rocks!!
Cheep? I don’t think so, try for $20.00 or less for 2 dinners, that is cheep. We want kid friendly places to go with a family of 4 for under $30.00 for dinner. That is what we call a good bargin! But $30.00 for two? I don’t think so.
this was a terrible article. I have eaten at 4 of these places and the only way you can eat for under 30 bucks is if you get salads or appetizers and waters, just like any middle priced restaurant. Hopefully, next time, the author can actually put some effort into the title they decided on. Under 30 bucks? Sheesh… Around here, Woodstock, Try The Place or BLD’s… Rosie’s Diner is also a good bet.
Well, this seems to have hit a nerve. Actually, I’m not a guy, and I did the math — You can get in and out of these places for $30. No, you can’t eat everything on the menu and drink booze until your skull aches. But you can eat, reasonably for $30. And for the record, Fred — you’re right. A lot of restaurateurs know what I look like. I’ve been doing this for a while, so that’s bound to happen. But I don’t accept things for free. Frankly, most restaurants don’t bother to offer because they know I won’t accept it — they know the rules as well as I. If things get sticky, I cover the cost of an item in my tip. But that’s pretty much the standard for any dining critic, anywhere.
Ate at Abattoir Saturday night and I enjoyed it thoroughly. The prices are on point, the options are uniques, and the menu is huge. If I have one complaint it would be that the menu is too big. (This could be an initial menu that will be tailored down as soon as they consider what the more popular dishes are.) All in all I loved it and will be back again soon!
KUDOS for the Atlanta boys – always nice to hear about locals hitting the mark with something! But, I’m a Peet’s French Roast (black, please) kinda guy.
The craziest I get with coffee is when I (very infrequently) add one Splenda and a hit of heavy cream.
Discovered the Whyantte in a midtown bar back in February. My OTP friends think I am a crazy, because they cannot find them in stores.
I went to the Whynatte warehouse and picked up a few cases so they could enjoy and know that I had not completely lost it. We are totally strung out on them now.
Whynatte is the s*it! So sick of Red Bull. It’s about time someone figured out how to unseat Red Bull, and offer up a product that actually tastes good. Well done ATL.
Meridith – I appreciate the positive review, and hope to one day write one of you as well. Actually, I’ll do just that when I post your blog entry on the Whynatte website.
Everyone else – thanks for taking the time to comment, thanks for the continued support, and stay tuned as we take this once inside joke to the next level.
I just recently went to Rolling Bones and had the BBQ tacos (chicken, pork, and brisket)…I was craving it again the next day for lunch! Not only was it creative but also very tasty. You can’t go wrong with any sides and the cookie topped it off just as good as mom used to. Great spot for lunch if you are in the area.
The distributor here in GA is brand new so the website has not yet been updated, but stayed alert for Liquid Ice being available at your favorite bar, restaurant, convenience store, and gas station soon. And if it’s not there be sure to ask for it!
Yea for the Social mention! I love that place. I was just there last Friday night and enjoyed the chicken liver/toast small plate and it ended up being a fine small dinner (the kind that leaves plenty of room for dessert later) along with a beer. This is currently my fave Atlanta restaurant.
Figo is another place my family likes and it really is a good bargain for the quality of food. I like the spinach papardelle with the mushroom sauce.
Another place I can recommend is Sausalito on Peachtree and 17th. Their enchiladas are really good. It’s a cute spot with a nice patio, but you do have to put up with eating with disposable utensils and plates.
Well, poo. I never got a chance to go. I guess I didn’t put it high up enough on my list of ‘places to go with my wife when we have a babysitter’. I have really enjoyed the other three Ullio places, especially Fritti, so I’m sure it was good.
I really hope to see a successful authentic Spanish restaurant in Atlanta some time. It’s a cuisine I know little of and would like to try.
Firstly, I apologize for referring to you as, “guy.” I recently moved and the food critic where I used to live was a guy and I forgot it was a new paper. However to say that you, “Hit a nerve,” completely misses the point of our comments. You were not writing an article on some sensitive topic where people get riled up. If any “nerve” was hit, it’s the one that says, “I don’t want to spend thirty dollars on dinner and need to hit McDonald’s on the way home.” To say that, “No, you can’t eat everything on the menu and drink booze until your skull aches.” Is such a terrible straw man and everyone can see it. Did anyone on here imply that we should be able to eat anything we want and buy a bunch of drinks. No, we merely wanted more to our meal than a salad and appetizer. If I am wrong, by all means tell me. Please point out what entrees we could order at these places and get out for less than $30. Figo certainly hits this mark. But I would have a very difficult time at most of these places.
I love tomatoes – but I refuse to buy those simulated tomato products they sell in the produce section of the grocery store at any time of the year. And the roadside stand tomatoes are hardly any better. They are bred for shelf life and not for taste. If more people had ever eaten a true homegrown tomato, they would also refuse to buy the crap the commercial growers call tomatoes, forcing them to work on the taste instead of the shelf life.
I have about 60 plants of various types, looking so forward to sampling. I am learning to eat raw tomatoes now, but the best way besides stewed on spaggetti, is to cut in half, put half miracle whip and half sour cream on the top, and put under the broiler for a few minutes. Yummmmmm!
Store bought tomatoes are an affront to the Almighty.
I agree. Homegrown tastes like summer. Yummy!
I am looking for recommendations though… which are the best kind to buy for taste? Big Boy, Beefsteak, etc? And how about hybrid vs. heirloom? I try to look for heirloom because I think Mother Nature knows best, but there is usually more hybrid available. Thanks in advance!
I agree with Chris, and sorry to the hypersensitive critic! Nobody expects to drink “until our skulls ache” but want to go for a date night for a reasonable price. My advice — try Decatur. My date and I each had three beers, an appetizer and two dinners for $50 at Universal Joint. The best hummus I’ve ever had. Nothing fancy, but an interesting and fun crowd and great service.
Straight off the home grown vine, washed and salt in the palm of your hand (take me back to childhood in PA and daddy’s garden) the taste is unbelievable. The stores just don’t get it…
No problem on the guy thing Chris. Just thought you should know. Social — have you tried it? definitely a good spot that’s not expensive. Pure — have you tried it? Ditto. Figo definitely. The only place on this list that seems questionable to me is the Shed. I put it on the list because it’s a nice neighborhood spot — a little nicer than the others — and the chef and owner try really hard, and yes — if you choose wisely — you can get out for around $30, especially if you go on one their “specials” nights, which I mentioned. I was trying to include places all around the city — Alpharetta, Southside, Downtown, etc. and I wanted at least one of them to be a little more upscale, to allow options for those who might want them. There are many others, of course. Like lovemygrub’s suggestion of the U Joint in Decatur, by all means let me know what spots you like in this category. I would love to include them in an upcoming “Top 5/In Search Of” as readers’ and commentors’ picks.
KC – The best tomatoes are grown in Arizona! Eurofresh Farms grows vine-ripened, hydroponic tomatoes that are just perfect. You can get them at any Atlanta-area Costco and Super Walmart. I recommend their Campari variety for snacking and the Roma for fresh sauce.
I love farm fresh tomatoes so much that I am giddy thinking about the upcoming season. Thankfully the drought has gone away for the most part because tomatoes need lots of rain to be juicy. In addition to eating plain with some salt, i will cut into large chunks for a tomato salad. Add some good olive oil, a crushed garlic clove (don’t chop the garlic or it will be to strong – just squash a clove with the slide of a chef knife and toss in with the salad and it will flavor the oil – i recommend warning guests they may not want to eat the raw clove), salt, pepper and a one of the following chopped herbs if desired – basil, cilantro or italian parsley all add a nice flavor. YUM. I can’t wait for my CSA to start including tomatoes in our box!
OK, you guys. Lay off Meridith. Most true foodies do not live OTP. We dedicated foodies live in the city, not in restaurant chain heaven(OTP), Yes there are many other bargain spots in the city, besides these. And she does not get reduced dinners, when she is doing a review.
Growing up in the South, it was always a fresh tomato from my Grandmother’s city garden, with Hellman’s Mayo, on White Bread, and Black Pepper. And of course, a glass of ice cold sweet tea.
I admit I have a penchant for Buford Highway and other ethnic dining, and there are plenty of inexpensive but delicious places there. I love Panahar and Little Malaysia (no atmosphere but amazing food). Both of these are BYOB, which really stetches the dollar. Another good option is to check restaurant websites for dinner specials – Ecco and La Tavola both offer wine and pasta for $15 on Monday night and many other places have week night specials. I love reading all the reviews and then checking out websites so that I’m aware of the menu specials.
Fresh tomato out of the garden on white bread with Blue Plate mayo, sliced onion with salt and pepper to taste, with a big glass of ice cold milk..It doesn’t get any better than that…
I work in Cobb County and there is a road side market off of S. Cobb Dr. that has really great tomatoes…
I went several times. Only once was good. After that, the food and service deteriorated badly, and for one who lived in Spain, these folks better head for La Mancha.
Actually, a great place to go right now for a good deal is Ippolito’s (I know of 2 locations & both are OTP). They are running a “Hard Times” special on several menu items. $7.95 at lunch & $8.95 at dinner and it comes with a coke.
What about Ted Montana Grill? 10.00 coupons on the website,12.00 lunch and 15.00 dinner deals. Go to there website and get 10.00 coupons. Midtown(Buckhead) has eat great for 8,a lunch special that runs all week.Great food,great service!!
Just want to stick up for MFG here. This is not a “Cheap Eats” rundown (CL & CityGuide have those, though, and they are very helpful when hunting that kind of place), but it’s not a bad list for nice restaurants where you can feasibly squeak in and out without breaking the bank – even if it does mean the lighter side of the food and drink offerings. Cheers to Nancy and Michelle for Top Flr and Panahar, too.
In regards to “concerned,” I think that your comment is more fitting to the point that the AJC is currently headlining sports news, and that there is no mention of GM, Air France, or New Hampshire on the home page. If anything, MFG is what keeps this newspaper from not being the worst newspaper.
Folks forget all that places mentioned above and go to Park Cafe in Duluth…A lunch and dessert can be had for under $15..in fact, they have special $10 meal where you can get a luncheon special: a small mixed green salad, a sandwhich, and a soup. Drink is extra so lemon water is good! This is a wonderful establishment and although I have not had dinner there yet, I do frequent the lunch as it is a beautiful quiet place to be out in the patio. Hope this helps.
Hunan Gourmet in Sandy Springs for great Chinese and Thai! Great quality and generous portions for the price. Last week’s dinner – $29.43: One Stella Artois, One Iced Tea, an order of Curry Chicken, and an order of Mongolian Beef. Rice of course. Fed us three adults! Absolutely no complaints. Fantastic! Just a few lights from the perimeter. Straight shot down Roswell Road or Lake Forrest from Peachtree.
What planet does this woman live on? $30 for dinner for two? Does she not know we are in a recession? Give me something less than $20 and not inside the Atlanta city limits.
You folks are aware that the newspaper in question is the ATLANTA Journal-Constitution, not Canton, Alpharetta, Lawrenceville, etc…? Having lived OTP for the majority of my life, I’m not saying there aren’t some great restaurants that are worth the drive but stop whining that you don’t get enough dining reviews. You live next to a major metropolitan city, of course the restaurants there are going to be in the limelight.
For $30, but probably less, one can eat like a KING at any “authentic” Chinese or Korean restaurant and there are plenty of these places around Atlanta, both ITP and OTP
In that case, since the “A” in AJC represents “Atlanta” then I need to recommend definately go to Fresh 2 Order in Midtown. Food is under $30 and you are satified as the meal is that good!!! Go for it!!!
Dailey’s closed?!? Where am I going to get my “Chocolate Charlotte” fix now??? I’m sorry to see both establishments shut down. I understand though that it’s a necessity due to the lack of business revenue. They will be missed.
i JUST WANTED TO SAY IT WAS A BUMMER NOT SEEING MIDWAY PUB AND GRILL IN EAST ATLANTA VILLAGE ON THIS LIST. EVERYTHING I’VE HAD THERE WAS GREAT AND VERY WELL PRICED. ALSO SERVICE IS ALWAYS VERY PROMPT. ALSO GOOD OUTSIDE AREA. CHECK IT OUT!
This stinks. I used to love going to Dailey’s as a kid back in the 80’s, in fact I even had my 16th birthday party there. Another beloved institution gone by the wayside.
Stop trying to pick and choose customers and treat all the same……look at incentive advertising….Arrogance is closing many restaurants down! Sorry to hear that Dailey’s is closing!
Nice rehash of mainstream Mexican food stops but this tired list does not even come close to touching on the great holes-in-the-wall that can be found inside and outside the perimeter. How about actually doing some research and providing some truly good/new/exciting dining information for the readers?
“So was it the recession, or location, that closed Cuerno?”
Neither.
It was mediocre food that was overpriced and really bad service.
Cuerno was fun but not good enough.
Another victim of Mr. Obama’s “spreadin’ it around”. What a tragedy! The closing of these two venerable institutions is a domino that does not bode well for Atlanta…
Hi Gildo: I did a post on Mi Barrio way back in February of 2008. Here’s what I said:
“Mi Barrio, on Memorial Drive on the outskirts of Grant Park, is an intown find. Family run, the place is relaxed and carefree, with decor ranging from a widescreen TV the size of a small house and bright Mexicana bric-a-brac from hanging sombreros to ceramic jugs.
The food is a mix of Guadalajaran goodies, from ceviche to birria (birrieria — traditionally made with goat but here made with beef because, according to one of the waitresses, no one would order it with goat.) It is an incredibly savory stew with shredded chunks of beef served with corn tortillas, refried beans and rice. The tamales are dry, but tacos adobada (pork stew) and gorditas brimming with chicken, beans, shredded lettuce and sliced tomato with avocado are pure joy. The staff treats everyone like regulars, and there’s an array of Mexican beers to partake of, though I didn’t bother with a margarita. On the weekends, the kitchen offers posole. It truly feels like mi barrio (or tu barrio, depending on your perspective). Mi Barrio, 571 Memorial Drive, Atlanta, 404-223-9279.”
I like Mi Barrio, but not as much as the taquerias I mention above, especially Oaxaquena and San Pancho. I love Los Hermanos in Tucker, too, but it’s more a full-menu Mexican restaurant, neither taqueria or cantina, which is why I didn’t list it. Sangrias in Tucker is fun, too.
I agree with Mike. While the parking situation was terrible, the food was just eh, nothing special at all, and service was mediocre. Even if the economy were booming and it was in a prime location, Cuerno would have struggled.
“Doughnuts. Is there anything they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson, from “The Simpsons” episode “Marge vs. The Monorail”
Now that that’s out of the way, I love the doughnuts sold at our local Ingles. The only three Krispy Kremes I know of are on East Ponce in Atlanta, US 78/Stone Mountain Highway in Stone Mountain, and on Pleasant Hill Road in Duluth. I used to go to the one on Pleasant Hill every other Friday to get doughnuts for the department I work in. That fell through after I left, and if I get an itch (and craving) I might get some. I don’t care for Dunkin’ that much, but if it’s the only thing available, I’ll go there or eat them.
Next time you worry about doughnuts being loaded in fat and calories and carbs (oh my!), only the filled doughnuts, or the twisted ones have all that in them. The regular doughnuts do not. It’s because of that hole in the middle. That hole sucks in all of the baddies, and you don’t eat the hole, now do you? No. You eat around the hole, thereby avoiding said fat, calories, and carbs.
When in my birthday suit and in an amorous mood, I am able to carry two cups of steaming hot coffee and half a dozen doughnuts back to the bedroom in one trip. The Krispy kreme standard glazed are more flexible and have a silky feeling against my skin adding to the excitement. More times than not this is my spouse’s favorite indulgent treat.
I worked at a donut shop in high school – we had this guy who used to get mad at us if we ran out of jelly donuts – so we used to make him a whole box of special jelly donuts and added about 5x the amount of jelly to the donut!! MMMMMMMM jelly!!!
Here is a real tomtoe treat: trim the top off the tomatoes, scoop out the center & fill the cavity with a mixture of chopped beef roast or baked chicken chunks with your favorite spices, some garlic and onions, bread cubes, parsley or chives (or both), top with a sprinkling of peparika. Bake at 350 degrees oven for 20 to 25 minutes.
Chop up the tops of the tomatoes and the centers to put in your salad (waste not).
You can add an egg to the stuffing mixture if you like. This is a great Monday night supper after you have had a beef roast or baked chicken for Sunday diner.
I was raised on these, with tomatoes fresh from our garden. I was a spoiled child – raised on a farm.
Great list Meredith! My favorite on this list is Verde for sure and I am a also big Mexican food fan as well. I am gringo myself so maybe that is why I prefer Verde over the others. : ) I was surprised to read you said to leave the Chipotle Mayo sauce on the side, that’s my favorite thing at Verde! And after Mexican food my next favorite food is Condiments! Yes, it’s a type of food. Good pick on the fried calamari. Who would have thought? I also think the bar is pretty cool too with the wood fixtures and separation from the rest of the restaurant. I like the clear glass beer refrigerator so I can stare at all of my choices for number two as I enjoy number one. Great neighborhood restaurant away from the mainstream. Maybe you should keep your reviews to yourself so us locals can keep it that way…
Dunkin Donuts held a contest to create a new donut. The winner was Jeff Hager from Hoover, AL, who created a “Toffee with your coffee” donut that will be available in September. It’s topped with Heath Bars. YUM! Be sure to give it a try when it comes out! Watch his video at youtube.com/dunkindonuts.
ok i have to agree on the Taqueria del sol. i mean, the food is good and its pretty reasonable but what is it with all the attitude from the folks that work there? both the cheshire bridge and the howell mill locations are just no fun to go to anymore. the line at first was kind of fun, seriously, it was like, ohh, i’m going to be getting something good, but now, its just tired and while the food again is good, the service often times SUCKS. several of us have vowed just not to go back sorry all you sol lovers.
oops I forgot, holy taco in east atlanta is lots of fun, but it totally blows my mind that the staff all seem hard core but there are more couple with kids there than in the burbs. they even have a baby changing station in the mens room…how, sandy springs of them..but its fun to go, until the bratty kids start whining at 10pm, parents..can slap em and you can’t tell em squat when it comes to their kids.
I hate -forced- valet parking. I drove my car there — I can get it into a parking space. Atlanta is insane with valets. Oh, complimentary? If you never tip.
I’m not saying that was the issue with Cuerno, though; in a midtown or downtown destination, I expect to have to pay something for parking.
Melissa- get out more. File Taxco under “cheap mexican,” i.e. garbage food, syrupy white queso and margarita flavored slushies. These places are only as good as the group you brought to get drunk and stuffed on said garbage food and margarita flavored slushies. I’m pretty sure mford was trying to start a conversation about actual mexican food.
Great list Meredith! Two others I LOVE…Taqueria Los Reyes near Buford Hwy/Clairmont Rd. intersection (in a previous DQ location). This “gem” used to be located at the end of the runway at PDK on Chamblee Tucker Road/Hospital Way. Delicious tacos, burritos and tortas. Steak burritos are LOADED with meat and tacos are generous served with two corn tortillas so you can make two from them.
Also love El Taco Veloz with several locations (Sandy Springs, Buford Hwy, Norcross etc.). They too load their burritos with tons of tasty steak and other filling options!
I just solved my “what’s for dinner tonight” dilemma!
Meridith, you have the best job in the world (food critic, how could life get any better).
Verdes is right down the street from me. The cheapest Taco they have is 3.25. Don’t you think that’s a bit pricey, and how does it compare to the others?
I second Don’s recommendation of El Taco Veloz. Great tacos and I love their refried beans too.
I’ve got a place to recommend but I can’t remember the name of it. I’ve been there several times and have really enjoyed the food — it’s just north of the intersection of Clairmont Rd and Buford Highway and it was until recently a Dairy Queen. Anyone know the name?
Dandy Donuts on Chamblee Dunwoody Rd, just NW of it’s intersection with Peachtree Industrial. It’s a tiny white cinderblock building. Their plain yeast donut is my favorite of that variety. But otherwise Sublime is my go-to place. They elevate the doughnut to an art.
It’s such a shame and I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner. Their business had been going downhill for sometime. What’s worse… the brides and clients that put a deposit or paid in full won’t be getting that back. Karma hurts.
according to DonH, it’s Taqueria Los Reyes. You’re the 3rd person who has mentioned it. I’ll have to check it out. It looks like a dump from the street, but then again, it use to be a DQ.
Darin… it’s Taqueria Los Rayos at the Old Dairy Queen. See my comment above (and Mimi who mentioned it above mine) Her spelling of it was the correct one!
Nuevo Laredo for sure is one of the best overall. But the breakfast at El Taco Veloz is the best deal going. Great food at a reasonable price. Close your eyes and you would think you’re in Mexico. Bottom line – lots of good authentic choices in ATL now, REAL margaritas are the challenge and I would love to see some recommendations. Not the mix/slushy kind – but a good booze combination and real limes.
Gotta agree with Mimi and Don H. on the Taqueria Los Rayos – most authentic & best ones in town. Have about 15 different tacos to choose from (all around $2) and lots of great tortas as well. The chorizo taco & shredded beef are my faves there – your choice of meat on a fresh corn tortilla, simply (and authentically) topped with just white onion, fresh cilantro, and a squeeze of lime. Just like they do it in Mexico.
And as someone that lives on Dresden – exactly between Verde & Los Rayos, and frequents them both – I can vouch for the calimari (and great margaritas) at Verde, the best in town. But I’ve tried most of the tacos on Verde’s menu and none have really hit me – most are bland and sound better on the menu than actually executed. Stick with the calamari (with the great small slices of lightly coated jalepeno’s hidden throughout the basket). And the chiptole ranch dipping sauce rocks too!
Wow…you’ve missed several. I can’t believe you forgot Bone Garden Cantina on Ellsworth Industrial!??! Great food and the best trivia (according to Reader’s Choice in “The Sunday Paper”) every Wednesday at 8:30. Perhaps you should take a visit before passing judgment on the best taqueria’s in Atlanta.
Anyone know if Los Reyes is still in business in Marietta? It’s somewhere near the big chicken. Not sure if it’s a chain or related to the similar named place that used to be a DQ.
Just returned from our first trip to Taqueria Los Rayos. After passing by the restaurant every day, we decided to give it a try. It was delicious. The tacos were outstanding, the beef cheek was super tender and the “flat meat” was good too. The torta al pastor was huge and so good, and an incredible bargain at $5. Must go!
Taqueria Las Comadres (Thornton Rd. in Lithia Springs) serves some amazing, authentic Mexican. The Cochinitas…wow. Also, when you order guacamole, they make it to suit your tastes. I love a lot of the places others have mentioned, but if you’re interested in Oaxacan/Mexican cuisine, I cannot recommend Las Comadres highly enough (BYOB & closed Sundays).
Meredith- nice list-i’ve been a fan of Taqueria del Sol since they opened. Now I have other options. I don’t frequent del Sol much anymore as the underlying tension between staff & customers get’s tiresome. Even the guys working the bar/counter for lunch have a ‘tude.
I’m interested in the place you mention in Jonesboro on Mt Zion. My map software can’t find that address. When you click on the website link nothing on the page works. Have a better address or intersection.
Taqueria Los Rayos – if there is better, I need to know… have not been to the new location, but had been going to the original West Hospital location since the 90’s. Off th bus real Mexican. Tacos and Tortas and horchata.
I have also quit Taqueria del Sol. The crappy hours (11am to 11:30am, 1pm to 1:15pm, 6pm to 8pm), the lines, etc. I love the food, but I won’t be treated that way by a bunch of uptight taco punks.
CAn anyone tell me where to find the best chicken chimichangas in Atlanta. I used to live in Nevada and they had the best I ever tasted! They were deep fried and just right! Please help, I have been craving forever.
I boycotted Taqueria del Sol 2 years ago and have not been back since. No restaurant is worth my time and money, especially one that exudes rude service and attitude. I can’t understand why people find it to be part of the appeal. There are plenty of other restaurants around town to go to. Hasta la vista, Taqueria!
Monterrey on Buford Hghwy just inside 285 is awesome. The chicken tacos are outstanding. But you have to go to this location, some of the other Monterrey locations are no where near as good. Margaritas are outstanding also.
Hello Meridith, I think something’s a little off on the formatting of Table Talk. The left-hand side is cropped a little too close. This is consistent on Table Talk and not a characteristic of other blogs and websites.
Pure Taqueria – I had a bad experience there. I loved the concept though. The hostess was extremely rude, service was poor. I had gone to lunch with a bunch of co-workers, most of whom were Indian. Given how our table was the only table seemingly having these problems, I felt extremely embarrassed for our country.
BONE GARDEN CANTINA off of howell mill road by far. they have an authentic a la carte menu. everything is fantastic! i was a big fan of NEUVO LAREDO, until i tried BONE GARDEN. we bring family and friends there all the time because we can always count on fabulous food and service!
Rojo Taqueria on Holcomb Bridge rules. Best margaritas and fish tacos in Atlanta. The house margarita is only $5.00 and they use fresh squeezed lime juice. They have over 80 different tequilas, a cool patio, unique bar, and the staff is very pleasant unlike some places. They have my family hooked.
JimC, I know it “ain’t”, cletus. But Mighty taco beats all Taquerias and cantinas in and around Atl. Don’t you know by now that us northerners always do it better than you southern hicks?
I am literally in tears. Dailey’s Midnight Cake was my late night at work fix. The City Grill holds sentimental value for me and my husband. We held our wedding reception there on July 15, 2000. Kim and her staff were so gracious and worked hard to make our special day even more memorable. It was a tradition of ours to have dinner there on our anniversary. This will be the first year we won’t be able to go. *sniff*
p.s. I’ll ignore the Obama comment, because this economic mess started with the Bush administration…he just got out and left Obama holding the bag.
I love my dog, but this is just stupid…no dog wants to sit at a restaurant while his owner eats. Get a grip people, no matter how much you love them, they are still DOGS.
Couldn’t disagree with Claire more – as long as the dog is well fed and hydrated, there’s nothing wrong with having him at a restaurant provided he’s not bothering other customers. What dog would prefer to be left home alone rather than take a car ride and spend some time with the family?
The outdoor seating of the Marietta Pizza Company at the Marietta Square has traditionally attracted a pretty good dog loving contingent.
Anyplace in Oakhurst Village! Steinbeck’s Oyster House, Mojo Pizza, Universal Joint, and Matador all have great outdoor seating and are incredibly welcoming to dogs with water bowls, treats, etc. I have to agree with GeoffDawg — our dog LOVES to go out to eat — how can that NOT be better than staying at home alone?
I would love to know, myself! One of my goals is to have my students take their dogs to restaurants where it is allowed, so they can practice their training. I take mine to Panera a lot, especially at Loehmann’s plaza (Moe’s there is good, too). I had a list of dog-friendly places a while back, but seem to have lost it.
I agree that manners matter! Ideally, the other patrons shouldn’t even notice you have a dog with you because he’s being so good. We are quickly losing our rights as dog owners, and this is a great way for folks to keep up with Fido’s manners as well as show non-dog folks that dogs are not nuisances.
I think maybe Claire doesn’t like eating at places with dogs? If they are not well-behaved, I can understand, but if they are, you shouldn’t worry about it. They want to be with us…as long as it is safe, they are not too hot, they are well-behaved, and they do not bother other patrons, I think it’s a great idea.
I prefer a dog at the table next to me much more than a ill-behaved child, or someone smoking.
There are some well-meaning people who drag their dogs everywhere, and there are certainly places where this is ill-advised, but most dogs I see out are generally enjoying themselves. It’s better than being stuck in the backyard all the time, with no company.
There’s a place in Alpha, off Main on Milton, Corner Deli, that has a patio and they allow pets all hours/days. They provide water bowls & biscuits. I’ve been there dozens of times with my two dogs and there has never been a problem with other dogs misbehaving. It’s a great way to start the weekend, the dogs even get their own omelettes (2 eggs, no oil) and dry wheat toast.
I agree with Claire. They are DOGS and they have no soul like human beings due. Our society is becoming obsessed with animals especially dogs. Again, get a grip and instead of taking your dog out to eat, take someone (human) who has fallen down on hard time out to these places and feed them. I do.
Some folks just don’t get it. Claire and BB, there’s a quaint little place called McDonalds for you types. It’s full of noisey kids and unattractive people, you’ll feel right at home!
Agreed on Oakhurst, and add on Brew Pub in Little 5 Points (they sell doggie ice cream) and Vinocity in Kirkwood. Our dog loves to come hang out with us- she is well behaved and gets lots of love from others when she goes public.
I’d rather eat with dogs than with damn kids. And, for the record, you illiterate ass, how “due” [sic] you know dogs don’t have souls? There is dogma [forgive the pun] that days they “due” [sic].
BB and Claire – if a restaurant caters to canines, it’s very simple – just don’t go there. Do you think there are a dearth of suitable eating establishments in metro Atlanta? Why in the world do you care that some people like to dine with their dogs?
I think it’s a great idea – how nice it would be to meet your friend who also has a dog for lunch and let the dogs socialize while you two eat and chat. I digg it!
I don’t have a dog, but wouldn’t be offended if I went to a restaurant where people had dogs..Like others say, if the dog is well behaved and isn’t slobbering all over the place, it’s no big deal..We as a society are to concerned with what other people think instead of what makes us happy..
There is an excellent Korean restaurant called The Korean Kitchen about a few blocks down from my subdivision that encourages everyone to bring their dogs. My wife and I go there quite often. Oddly, though, many people have their dogs “run away” while dining there. The food sure is good, though!
I would LOVE to find a place to go with my extremely well behaved Aussie. She is better behaved than most small children, listens and sits/lays at my feet all the time. I’d rather bring her than leave her at home alone.
Bruster’s by us gives free “doggie sundaes.” Vanilla ice cream topped with a milk-bone biscuit..yes, FREE. My girl loves to go there!
I always ask seated patrons if I may sit by them when I have my dog and so far no one has said no; if no one is seated on the patio, I chose the most out of the way table and have never had an issue. Taco Mac refused to seat us but Panera is always great, Atlanta Bread Company, Starbucks, Brusters Ice Cream (give a free doggie treat) and even Artuzzi’s before it moved from Roswell Road. Please be considerate of others – just as I would not take a child that could not sit still and behave to an eatery, I wouldn’t take my dog if he could not either.
It’s very common to take your dog to a restaurant in Europe. As mom of two kids and two dogs, I’d rather have well behaved dogs sitting next to me than fussy moms with their even fussier kids.
It’s also important for those traveling with their dogs that they have pet-friendly options. It’s usually not allowed to leave your pet in the hotel room unattended.
The Park Tavern at Piedmont Park is very dog friendly…and dogs or kids don’t bother me as long as they are well behaved…those that aren’t..kids or dogs should be left at home…
I went to Nancy G’s two weekends ago and sat outside on the patio. I had never been there before and didn’t know anything about the dog-friendly seating. A patron came in with dog that was well-behaved and quiet. The trouble started when the next patron came in with another dog and the two pets started thrashing around and yelping at each other while the two owners tried to let them “meet” each other – seemingly oblivious to the disturbance that they were causing. We left immediately and I will not be back to Nancy G’s. I like dogs just fine, but they don’t belong in restaurants any more than smokers do. There seems to be a selfish attitude here with dog owners that is similar to smokers: “if you have problem with my dog/cigarette that is your problem and you are too sensitive”. No, I don’t want to listen to your dog yelping. I don’t want them jumping on me: I don’t want to trip over their leashes; I don’t want dog hair floating into my meal, etc. Nancy G. take heed. You lost a customer.
Meh – I’m less likely to frequent a place where dogs are allowed inside. Oddly enough, I think I would be more turned off with the lap-dog size (you know, the little yapping fuballs) than with a lab or any larger dog. I think it’s the proximity to the table that bothers me and I’ve seen far too many people eat with their dogs in their laps.
I don’t take issue at all with dogs on a patio or outside. As a matter of fact, if your dog is friendly enough he may get a nibble or two thrown his way when you’re not looking.
bill – this is not selfish at all on the part of dog owners. If a restaurant wants to cater to a niche clientele, then what do you care? You have no inalienable right to visit whatever restaurant you want and have the conditions be however you want them. What you do have is freedom of choice and you can easily choose to go to the place across the street.
//The trouble started when the next patron came in with another dog and the two pets started thrashing around and yelping at each other while the two owners tried to let them “meet” each other – seemingly oblivious to the disturbance that they were causing.//
This is as unacceptable to me as someone allowing their child to disrupt my meal. I’m sorry this happened to you. Did you tell a manager? Or has the restaurant lost a customer not over bad food or service, but over something they had little control over at that moment? If you told them about your experience, they might make a “no dogs meeting on patio” rule or something. (I know nothing about the restaurant you cite.)
People are perfectly fine to eschew establishments that do not make them feel welcome (you’ll never see me at Chuck E. Cheese , or Joel). I know there are non-dog folks out there, and if they are paying, they have a right to eat unbothered by your dog, or even the presence of your dog.
On a restaurant patio is no place for dogs (or kids) to play and be obnoxious. Dogs at eateries should lie quietly at the owners’ feet, and, like I said before, should be “invisible” so as not to bother other patrons. No one should haul their obnoxious dog with them just because they can. Civility, empathy, and manners are things that have clearly gone the way of the Dodo in some places.
Dogs need manners just like kids and adults do. What’s so hard about that?
I loved Cuerno and was saddened to see it go. I have to disagree with the first 2 posters, though, I thought the food was exquisite and very reminiscent of our travels to Spain. I hope he opens again somewhere with better parking sometime. I miss the squid ink paella!
Dogs become a huge part of our lives, it is a great to take them places with us. They love to go places too. My dog loves to be around people and other pets. I think this is a great idea!
So where next Fifo?..ok joking aside… My retriever and I ususally go through drive-throughs and eat in the parking lot. When the cashiers see the doggie, he sometimes gets a doggie treat!!!
In France pets are considered part of your family and are accepted most anywhere not only restaurants. At the cafe, bakery, post office you will see dogs. The only thing I judge a person by is how my dog reacts to them, my pooches are excellent judges of character. Any man who wants to get to know me, has to pass the test with my dogs first.
My active terrier would never sit through a full, civilzed meal among strangers and waitrons, but she DOES love a good cold treat on a hot day! So we’ll go to Sheridan’s (Lawrenceville Hwy, Tucker) where I can get a smoothie or frozen custard and listen to oldies, and Kasha gets a “puppy cone” just for her! The kids love watching the dog and vice versa!
I don’t think the dogs are the problem here. I think it’s just the terminology. If the question were posed as ‘what restaurants welcome dogs on their patios’, rather than ‘where do you take your dog out to dinner’ – I think those against would have responded differently.
In Ireland everyone brings their dogs along where ever they go. So much so, that when we are there we buy a box of dog biscuits to carry with us to hand out treats.
But come on folks, every one is entitled to their opinion. If someone is opposed, don’t get insulting.
Claire – you are SO wrong. My dog would rather be out and about with me than sitting inside. Seeing as how she is only 4.5 pounds she does not have the ability to be left outside alone.
We stopped by Bruster’s on Due West Road (Marietta) after taking our dogs to the Acworth Dog Park on Pitner Road. Our dogs were offered *Doggie Sundaes* (frozen vanilla ice cream or yogurt with a Milk Bone *cookie*) tucked into each one. It was a fun, unexpected treat for our pooches while we ate our own frozen treats at the outdoor, shaded seating area. I don’t know if all Bruster’s locations do this, but it was a nice surprise. Thumbs up to all dog-loving and accomodating restraunteers!
Meehan’s in the Vinings is very dog-friendly. Also, the Taco Mac in the Highlands always loves to serve my pup water from a beer bucket. At George’s and Moe’s and Joe’s, you can keep your dog outside of the patio fence and they’ll provide a water bowl for you. Same goes for the Highlander. I have heard that the Treehouse in Peachtree Hills is a haven for pets, also.
There is also a place called Park Grounds that apparently has a little dog area for patrons.
As far as dogs not wanting to sit with their owners while they eat…I’m pretty sure mine would rather be out with me and socializing with other people and pets than at home by herself. If I choose between dealing with human kids running amok, or dogs laying by someone’s feet, I’ll pick the latter every time.
My 2 dogs are not good candidates for going to a restaurant. However, dogs should be welcome if they are well-behaved. The same can be said of children – they should only be in restaurants if they can behave.
Quit doggin’ on Claire, y’all. I have three pooches of my own, and I have to agree. Besides, no one takes their dog to a restaurant for the sake of the dog. Let’s face it, they take their dog to the restaurant in the hopes of chatting up other people: basically a singles scene. I can’t believe this has been discussed so much here, and especially why I’m compelled to even respond myself. All best to dog-friendly restaurants, but I won’t be toting my 4-footed furry friends around like chattle for show in this hot weather. That’s just inhumane.
There is a great place called Park Grounds in Reynoldstown. It’s a coffee shop with coffee, sandwiches etc. and a small dog park attached to it. They also sell locally made dog treats. I take my pup every weekend. It’s great! Check it out.
I’m sorry, but my 5-year-old yellow lab is better behaved than most children I know, yet children are allowed in restaurants while my “son” is not. I would love to take him out with us occasionally so I think it’s a wonderful idea that some restaurants have opened their doggie doors to my entire family!
Have a rescue puppy who loves to go to Paddy’s pub at Chateau Elan. They are always considerate and bring water out for the dogs. Definitely would rather have dogs around that a bunch of ill mannered rug rats.
I hope folks catch the well behaved part. I am sure the manish woman that lives down the block from me will take her overly vocal mini collie and semi retarded lab mix. That menace takes those dogs everywhere and trust me, the ARE NOT Well behaved. Neither is she for that matter.
Wow. This is not a hot spot! These are what I have identified so far as restaurants willing to work with the no salt with minimal fuss: Longhorn’s and Carrabbas (as far as chains go). In Athens, there is Last Resort, The Savannah Room at UGA, Harry Bissetts (limited), and Five and Ten. If anybody can help me out and add on for Atlanta locations – that would be great. BTW a Carrabbas wait person told me they are prepared to work with any kind of diet a customer is on, including gluten free.
So far in Atlanta, I have Houston’s. I am working on Little Bankok but it is a work in progress.
A soft spot for La Fonda Paisa in the Fiesta Plaza. Despite the almost nonstop replaying of “The Punisher” and bad tejano videos, dependable barbacoa and carne asada tacos.
Well that is really a shame, as the food was excellent, the decor fun and the service just fine. Atlanta needs authentic cuisines from other parts of the world and Cuerno certainly filled that requirement wrt Spanish food.
I do agree that the parking was a little strange.
Have to agree with Dogzrule. People who complain are likely to also be the ones who let their children run wild around my table and pretend they don’t see or hear anything wrong with it.
I was in Europe last year and dogs are allowed in restaurants, subways, etc. Mind you, has to be well behaved, but that is the owner’s responsibility. (That goes for kids too)
Not gonna lie, liquid ice looks reminds me of the crap I took in my toilet last night. Not pretty. I did try a whynatte the other day and had one of the best nights of my life.
If you’re part of the AAllatoona Lake crowd, The restaurant at Victoria Landing, Props & Hops, is dog friendly, and they have water bowls. They are under a new owner this year, so as of last week, there is no alcohol, but they said soon. I went there last year and it was horrible, but the new owners have really put some good food on there It was nice to take the dog out on the lake and not have to leave her on the boat to go eat.
I believe the original purpose of this article was to request that DOG FRIENDLY people submit DOG FRIENDLY places they know. Why it turned into a forum on dog smell/behavior/acceptibility, I can only chalk up to the poor cretins (I would call them souls but I don’t think they have any) who insist on having an opinion on something they either don’t understand or know nothing about. If you hate dogs, I’m sad for you, but quit choking this comment page with your inane, unsolicited and unappreciated rhetoric; you are only proving your lack of qualification to be included here. Leave this page for those who love dogs and take your pathetic need to force your opinion on everyone somewhere else.
This place sucked at the end. Surly arrogant service, mediocre meals, parking issues and hefty price tags. I lived in Spain for a year, and the food was an attempt at authenticity……an attempt. This restaurant closed because each successive visit got worse. Who, I ask, was minding the store? Que lastima.
Like someone else noted, Corner Deli in downtown Alpharetta is popular for dog owners. While I don’t have dogs myself, I’ve been there for breakfast many times on the outside patio. Most of the dogs are well behaved, given water, and not a nuisance. It’s up to the individual. I think it gives you the opportunity to interact with other people and their animals when you are out and about that you would normally ignore. It makes for a more open and friendly environment. If you don’t like having animals in the same area don’t go. Can’t get much easier than that!
authenticity in atlanta? at least it was an attempt. just because it comes on a small plate it does not mean a tapa. some of the stuff you see in spain you could never serve here. a shrimp with eyeballs and antenna attached, baby eels or barnacles. how about fried sardines and squid in it’s own ink? off to the varsity.
I only went there once and I’ve never spent time in Spain, but my take was that I’d eaten better Spainsh elsewhere. And service was just okay, at most. I would much rather take my appetite and dollars to Sotto Sotto or Fritti.
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a doc on this subject. Corporate farming has been been a “growing problem” even as it has made food production more affordable. The Bushies made sure that corporate interests involved in food production were allowed to put profits over quality or safety, subjugating the FDA just as other industries did the FAA, FCC, SEC and every other business oversight agency. As we’ve all learned (at least some of us) for the umpteenth time business, especially Big Business, will not police itself. I worked with Fortune 500s for a quarter century and learned that the only reason the Big Boys behave is when someone with deep pockets (ie, government or interest groups) stands to fine them or drag them into court. These are the people we have entrusted with our food supply. Scary!
Wow…I clicked on this link specifically to find out which restaurants to add to my list of places to avoid (including those with smokers, rats, roaches, and rowdy patrons). Not that I hate dogs or any of the rest, I just don’t find it particularly enjoyable to have any of them included in my dining experience–certainly not one I pay for. Last I checked, restaurants were established to sell human beings, both young and old, people food. Granted, if a proprietor chooses to serve “extended” family members that’s certainly their right, but just let me know and count me out.
Ironically, as I read through the board what I found most distasteful, and rather disturbing, wasn’t the numerous places that allow dogs (other than guide dogs of course) in dining areas, but the brazen lack of compassion and consideration in human beings for other humans. I’ve loved several pets in my life, but would never elevate their significance above that of another person. Frankly, some of you dog “lovers” sound like people-haters in need of some therapy. Remember we all used to be “damn kids” at some point…right?
Shame on you BB. Poopoo on you Claire. I totally agree with Jeff. Of course, those two would probably require the dog(s) who might bite them be immediately put to sleep or shot. If a dog does bite one of them, it would surely be because they abused the dog and it had no choice.
Mad Italian on Savoy Drive in Chamblee allows dogs on their patio … it’s a great family place and the staff gladly provides a water bowl for canine guests.
Next someone needs to do a documentary on the link between “industrial (junk) food” and the health problems in America. Diabetes, Colitis, Chronic Fatigue, Lupus, and much more-all of these things can be linked back to the horrible effects on our bodies of grain based agriculture.
We ruin our bodies because it’s cheap, tastes good and we are told that it’s FOOD. In my opinion if it’s processed or does not look like the source that it came from (a steak does-hot dog does not, corn on the cob does-corn flakes does not, honey does-candy bars do not, etc.) it is NOT FOOD, it is PROFIT for someone at the LOSS of the eater.
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I’ve had tea at Park 75 before–both hot and cold. This looks delicious! What a neat idea. Nothing worse than watered-down tea–water at the top, tea at the bottom.
Richard Blais is talented in the kitchen but he never sits still enough for anyone to enjoy his culinary skills. I think his lack of loyalty is very disappointing to the restaurants that hire him to create their menus and lead their kitchens. I don’t think he has worked at a restaurant for more than a few months. He is more of a food celebrity than a chef these past couple of years.
Again, I think the distinction needs to be made about Patio vs. Dining Room. I would never consider taking my dogs into a restaurant. Ever. But something like the L5P Brewhaus patio I always enjoy and I know the dog(s) do too. It’s all about being considerate. I have a 90 lb dog and believe me, the first thing on my mind is the other patrons (humans) comfort. If he starts whining to play, then I get the check and it’s over. No one wants to be THAT GUY. I think most dog owners have the same mindset. But like any other activity, it’s the few ‘bad apples’ that can ruin it for the rest of us.
I’d love to see a review of someplace really funny…like Taco Bell or Mc’ds…that’d have the potential to be great. Really almost ANY crappy chain would work.
Meridith, how about any of the strip-mall ethnic joints up Buford Highway? You know, the places where those of us not fluent in *insert other language here* have to point at what we want?
Hey, I’ve got published experience … I’ll even lend you a hand.
I agree on anything Buford Hwy and am willing to make suggestions. With the recent review of Gimza and other spots, I am happy about your coverage of the NE quadrant in general.
The fast food idea is great and would be funny. Especially comparing different locations of the same chain. For example an Arby’s near my office seems to have a weight minimum and a speed maximum involved in their hiring and over goops everything, even for Arby’s. (Which keeps me healthier and away from there, generally.)
One thing that would be a great service would be to find somewhere near the Fulton County Government Atlanta City Hall area complex that is worth eating at for lunch.
Anywhere in the city where you can find healthy, fresh, reasonably portioned lunches would also be great.
Also, other than Moroccan restaurants, Blue Nile and 10 Degrees South , I know nothing about African food and would like to learn.
Soups are often ignored in reviewing restaurants, but it would be interesting to know who has the best.
Okay, so the place looks like a hole, but it’s generally considered by folks around Cumming to have great Chinese food. It’s Hong Kong Chinese in Tri County Plaze (next to Big Lots) on Atlanta Highway just off Exit 14 on 400.
Very small place, only a few tables (most folks do takeout) but the food is great. Tom is the Owner/Chef, and I always just stand there in awe(you can see the kitchen area) as he cooks my takeout, watching him work his magic on the wok.
He and his wife are a nice couple, and I’m glad to see them succeeding. My personal faves would be the Ginger scallion shrimp.
I think Atlanta Native has hit on a great possibility. Ask people what their favorite lunch spot is for a working meal. That would be a nice list to have!
I’ll start. If you’re in Cumming, Sal’s pizza is good, and the Country Gourmet has great sandwiches. Both are on the square in Cumming.
My wife and I also go to the Ridge quite a bit (Turner Rd off exit 15 on 400). Best affordable steaks in town. It’s got a whole “worn out 70’s” thing going, but it’s not trashy, and we like it.
I have a better idea. Why don’t you have a contest and select someone to dine with you at the restaurant of their choice. It has to be a place where you haven’t been before. If you select me, we’re going in the heart of the A-T-L!
P.S. I am different from “The Atlanta Native!!!” as I will never refer to my hometown as the A-T-L. I have never understood having an abbreviation that has more syllables and takes longer to say than the original word.
Becky — love Carver’s, but yes — I’ve written about it many, many times. I love the sign on the wall that says “all men are idiots and I married their king.” No offense, guys.
Thanks Meredith..I’m new to the food blog, so I’ve missed out on a lot of topics..Plus, I live on the west side of town and there aren’t that many places (other than chains) to be reviewed…
Connie, hi, sorry I can’t help but wonder if you would please clarify for me, why is it your “son-in-law” when it needs to be your daughter to treat you to dinner? Does he “owe” you for anything? Just curious.
And to Meredith, not to be harsh, but I’m not going to do your homework for you so drive pass anywhere I-285 and go thirty minutes outside ATL and you will find many places worth doing reviews. Just make sure to bring pen and paper or wifi.
ihorizon: don’t be negative. Meridith actually took the time to ask us for our thoughts. Frankly, I don’t expect her to know every single restaurant in every single nook in every single area of metro Atlanta. And I welcome anyone who welcomes my input.
Morgan you are right, however, I didn’t like the way the writer spouted “Read before you write” to Amber then left us feeling that we are having to do “research” to see if she wrote the reviews beforehand. I can understand it gets frustrating writing articles and hearing about the same place over and over, but there was no need for her to treat her readers like students to track down the articles beforehand. Besides, I had a hard time finding the reviews in the first place as the web sites links were vague and cluttered. It reminds me of going to get an item at the store only having to walk all over the aisles before seeking help to find it. Again, sorry if I was harsh.
Also, may I recommend going to Yelp.com search your city of choice under “Restaurants” listing. Readers will often comment on their experiences of places they ate. It is a neat forum. Thanks!
This place is great! The prices are very resonable and the food is wonderful. I went just this past weekend and had a wonderful time. The staff is extremely helpful when it comes to understanding the menu and what you’re ordering. I do believe I’ve found a great place to enjoy with my clients and family alike.The viva las vegas roll is a must have when you go and this is coming from a person who,up until now, only ordered california rolls and shrimp rolls. I know Atl is flooded with over priced, so so sushi bars, but RA is an exception and not the rule.
Here are a few suggestions from a 400 Suburbanite: 1. Spondivits – Hwy 9, Cumming, GA – Surprisingly good seafood served in a Jerry Springer-like atmosphere. It’s a hoot! 2. Tara Humata – Windward Parkway, Alpharetta – Mexican that’s more authentic than most and a vast assortment of tequilas. 3. Pearl Lian – Hwy 141, Johns Creek – Interesting decor… rocks brought from Asia, bamboo walls. Hard to believe they’re able to do both Chinese, Thai and Sushi well but they seem to pull it off.
It has been obvious to me for a long time that Meridith has some sort of chip on her shoulder, and it’s evident in her writing. The quick retort, “…read before you write…” to one of the comments here is a great example.
Another example is her silly review of Nuevo Laredo Cantina. Thousands of Atlantans love it for what it is … full of cheese, full of tequila and full of fun. But her review of it had to denigrate those who love it and disregard the restaurant for its lack of authenticity. Sounded to me like someone with a chip on her shoulder out to prove something to someone. Prove what? To whom?
Where’d ya get the chip? And can you learn to keep it out of your writing??
Hi all. Me again. I just wanted to say I did search for Gimza in the “search this blog” area at the top right. Go ahead and try it – you will get no results. I did see she wrote it up recently however after searching the ajc.com option off the main page. Regardless, the snappy comment was unnecessary. Have a good day everyone and enjoy your week.
Amber — sorry to come off snippy, it’s just that the review was in the paper just a week before you wrote that. The reviews are not posted on the blog unless I link to them — they are posted on accessatlanta under restaurants — hope that helps for the future. For the record — I really liked Gimza. As for a “chip,” — i just tell it like I eat it. NLC is a fun place, and I said so in the review; I just don’t think it’s very authentic, that’s all. As for asking you to “do my homework” — honestly, I was hoping this would get a great discussion going of places I might not have heard about — places, you, the reader, would like to see in the paper/online. And Turd: please, by all means enlighten us. I don’t even know where the Oasis Good Time Emporium is … I did do a review of the food at the Cheetah once, though.
I’m interested to see what happens with the Trois-space redo, but I’ll also miss having a French option on the Peachtree corridor in Midtown near my home. Any recommendations for a substitute?
I remember that Cheetah review… LOL! I’ve never been! I think your idea for suggestions is a great one…. For Atlanta to be as BIG a city as it thinks it is, I’m always amused at it’s tastes…. The Best of the Big A is more an advertisement for the chains than it is a guide to the out of the way gems… Maybe this will shed some light on of those gems… For one, I would love to know of a great seafood place… We’re less than 4 hours from the coast yet local fresh seafood is illusive unless of course you like Bonefish or the Atlanta Fish Market.
If you want to take a trip up to Buckhead, try Anis Bistro. Always get the mussels for an appetizer and then order whatever you want because everything is well prepared, especially the veal.
Hopefully our country can make some progress repealing corn subsidies and other policies that favor toxic agri-megaconglomerates before the political pendulum swings back toward the right-wing corporatist nuts that, ahem, cooked up this greasy frankenfood system in the first place.
Maybe some street demonstrations would be fun: “What do we want? FRESH PRODUCE! When do we want it? NOW!”
One neighborhood-y resto that I love is Bangkok Thyme, on Roswell Rd. in Sandy Springs. One of the freshest happy-hour sushi menus around (and I’m from the school that sushi should never be cheap).
And the Yakitori Jinbei out on Cobb Parkway … YUM … an old friend once described it as “chicken-on-a-stick” and the name stuck.
Out in Tucker I had a surprisingly tasty meal at Capri – I can’t really remember the road it was on, but it was a tiny little place in a strip-mall, owned/op’d by two natives of the Isle (of Capri – hence the name).
And is the James Joyce still around? Used to LOVE that place.
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Artisan Foods Bakery & Cafe, 1169 Canton Street, Suite #100, Roswell, GA 30075. Phone: 770-998-1169. Open for breakfast and lunch – everything home-made (best beignets ever!).
For a down-home southern experience, go to Doug’s Place in Emerson, GA, just off of Hwy. 41. They don’t have a website, but you can find out more by going to http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3713378451.
We drive up from Marietta for the tasty fried chicken, squash casserole, fried green tomatoes, fried okra, and cornbread. Doug’s offers your choice of meat/veggies, and they also have a great breakfast.
@RK – I’ve always wondered about that Brooklyn Cafe (over near the old Target building, right?) myself. Never been in – what’s it like?
I pass it on my way to Trader Joe’s from Buckhead – actually, strike that – USED to pass it but since the TJ’s in Buckhead opened I haven’t been out to the Sandy Springs store!
Trois sucked anyway and if you thought it was “sensational”, maybe you should check your senses considering your a food critic and the comments on your blog are as empty as trois was.
Villa Vino (new restaurant, next-door to Genki in Buckhead). Best new Italian and pizza place around! NY Style pizza, delicious pasta – interestingly, the same owner as Rio Grande across the street. Worth checking out for sure!
I just from in town to Sandy Springs, pretty close to La Petite Maison, have not had a chance to try it yet, but have heard good things, let me know if any of you have been!
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KENNESAW, GA 30144
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I eat out quite frequently in Atlanta, but I must say this is my favorite restaurant. The prices are reasonable as well. The Butterfinger Cheesecake is finger lickin’ good!!
We have found the bistro to be a wonderful experience for out girls. It is just as you described – sophisticated, without being too grown up. The food has always been good and the atmosphere special.
I would love to see Melody Lane on Canton Highway in Marietta reviewed. My wife and I love to eat there and it drives our kids crazy because we come home smelling of spices and they KNOW where we have been. It is owned by a Lebanese lady that disguises her wonderful food under the pretenses of Greek cuisine, such as wonderful gyros and the such. It is certainly worth the trip.
I have to agree. My daughter and I have visited and eaten at the American Girl Place in New York City and our experience here in Atlanta lived up to that. As an adult, I was happy with the variety in the entrees for both of us. It was a special treat for a mother-daughter outing.
RBSAtlanta: I’ve eaten there a couple times, most recently last week (wife gets her hair done there). The in-house smoked salmon app is fantastic. The wine list is very good (not too long, but with good price point, and pours). The menu changes from time to time, and this last time I noticed that they have some cheaper entree items in case you don’t want to break the bank. That said, your average entree is still probably only 20-23. Energetic and engaged owner, too. It was absolutely packed this last Friday night, which is an encouraging sign. IMO good bang for the buck.
RBS, the food at Brooklyn Cafe is great, always consistent and good. Grilled artichoke is great, everything on the menu is good, but I usually go with whatever the special is. It’s been there for about 10-15 years now – which is quite a feat since I remember the space being a revolving door for at least 10 changing restaurants before this one actually stuck.
Very comfortable neighborhood atmosphere, great place for a bite to eat before a movie or show. The staff is friendly – and I grew up a few doors down from their (wonderful) somellier behind the bar, Takka Holt, who gives great, reasonably-priced reccomendations to suit whatever you’re having. And they always have a huge jar of free ripe mixed olives sitting at the bar for you to have with your wine.
Phar: just tried it this weekend (ironically, just after having the aforementioned app and wine at Brooklyn Cafe, because we’ve been wanting to try this other one, too). If it is going to rain, don’t sit outside — the awning can’t handle it. Anyway, the food and service was good, although I felt my lamb was a bit too sinewy for the price ($30). It was accompanied by some excellently-stewed white beans, a typical French salad, and a not-so-fresh polenta cake. A very short French wine list, but they were good, and not pricey. Desserts, however, were fantastic. The profiteroles were spot on, and there were 5 (not the usual 3). My chocolate-pear tart was something to return for — the almond (extract?) in the crust really came through for some extra tastiness. Well-presented, too.
Older crowd at LPM than BC. It is worth a shot, especially if you are wanting authentic French food, but I felt like I got more bang for the buck at BC. However, I’ve only been to LPM that one time.
Gumbeaux’s Cajun Cafe in Douglasville is great!! I’ve never been to New Orleans, but I hear that thier food @ Gumbeauxs is very authentic. The portions are huge & the food and service is excellent!! http://www.gumbeauxs.com
I would like to second Jen’s recommendation of Gumbeaux’s in Douglasville. I have never been to New Orleans either, but New Orleans natives have praised the place. I’d also be curious to know what Meredith thinks of some of the restaurants even further west, in Carrollton. Plates, Little Hawaiian, Alley Cat, Corner Cafe, et cetera. I’m happy to drive into Atlanta but it’d be nice to get more reviews for places on this side of town.
Victoria-back off Spondivits. One person died from a raw oyster and that was like 3 years ago. The person also had a “compromised immune system” to begin with. There’s a warning on the menu…raw oysters are a RISK..especially in land-locked Atlanta.
As for seafood, AJ’s in East Cobb is good…its cheap and laid back.
Meredith, I would love to know if you know of a place to BUY good seafood. Like a fish market that has really fresh stuff??
I would love to see you review Vinings Inn since it changed ownership/chefs…and you’ve probably reviewed it before but…Bluepoint? I think it is horrible…don’t see what all the hype is about.
RBS – If you’re talking Capri Italian/American Cafe, it is good. It is located, as you said, in a small strip shop at 3210 Tucker Norcross Rd Tucker, GA 30084.
Gumbeaux’s in Douglasville is some of the best cajun food that I have had in or out of Louisiana. The Oasis is located at P’tree Ind and Tilly Mill Rd just outside of 285, so I am told.
You must try Cuban Cafe in Jonesboro. One of the best Cuban sandwiches ever! The nicest staff as well. Looks like a hole-in-the-wall from the outside, but so quaint and charming inside. They are open only on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, from 11:00 a.m. until 9:00 p.m. The address is 729 N. Main Street, Jonesboro, GA. YUM!
Ritters at Lower Roswell and Johnson Ferry. Great Local Grub with Fresh food and awesome takes on favorites. They Have Steaks, Seafood, and a cozy enviroment.
I second BB’s Diner in Alpharetta….they have the only hand rolled, water boiled bagels in the South….the true NY style bagel which once everyone has experienced, will make the drive. It is on McFarland Road off Highway 9 or Georgia 400….on the East bound lane. Awesome!
I love the Caribbean Fiesta restaurants in Alpharetta and Norcross. Great food! I am getting hungry now thinking about a plate of beans and rice with jerk or curry chicken
Las Palmeras, on 5th St near Piedmont Park. It’s a little hard to find tucked in between the residential area but the food is great. Especially the fried yucca and the vegetarian sampler dish. The maduros are excellent as well and the patio has a great atmosphere. You feel like you found a secret once you get there.
Clearly you’re a less than helpful bunch (and angry!) — as far as french restaurants in Midtown, you should try Atmoshphere on Piedmont by Ansley Park. It’s really delish.
How about a little neat place called Northlake Thai…I think reviewed a while ago, but great service, food and ambiance. Whenever we go in to dine, we walk out smiling!
Oh MAN! My mom (52), sister (19) and I (22) went to the American Girl Place in Chicago over New Years. Yes, we brought our dolls, too. Once an American Girl, always an American Girl. We were thrilled at the chance to eat in the cafe, and (while our dolls were getting their hair done…bear with me here) we had the special treat of having all the wonderful delights in the cafe. I mean, they are so good! Since it was winter, they were offering a great salad with sunflower seeds and pumpkin bread croutons. All the little desserts were good, too! It was such a great time. Rest assured that all that money you’ve spent on clothes and dolls will eventually be reused one day.
I got my Dad a plant that Moves when you Tickle It or shake it
You can grow your own TickleMe Plant in the TickleMe Plant Greenhouse I found at http://www.ticklemeplant.com
The leaves instantly close and even the branches droop when Tickled!
I only seem to get a craving for Chick-Fil-A on Sundays. Does this mean I’m the anti-Christ.
Got tired of choosing between Varsity rings and fries, so I dropped one chili dog from my order and get both. Yes, I love McDonald’s fries, but I think Varsity has them beat.
Would love to try Chipolte, but living in north Georgia and rarely visiting Atlanta, I have to get my Varsity fix, or my Three Dollar Cafe wing fix in on those occasions.
“Of course, it’s hard to find someone who doesn’t love the largest drive-in in the world’s onion rings, hot dogs (I like mine with the V’s chili and mustard) and a big Frosted Orange shake”
Well… you’ve found one. I do not like the Varsity. I will take a chili dog from Zesto ANY DAY over the Varsity.
I have almost the same list, except that I’ve never been to Chipoltes..As for the fries at McDonalds, you can’t get any better then when they come right out of the fryer..I could eat tons of them like that..
Go to the varsity at town center conglomerate,mall whatever they call that city
sized place.The food is less greasy,staff is friendly.All in all a good fast food bargain.
Mary, one of the bartenders at Maggie’s in Toco Hills, has come up with a bacon infused vodka. I tried a sip – bacony. Would go great in a bloody mary!
+1 for McDonald’s french fries – like most people I try to stay away from fast food but every once in a while nothing soothes my soul more than McDonald’s french fries.
I’ve always felt that there’s “eating for your health” and then “eating for your soul” … fast food has its place, in moderation, as does eating for the soul.
Count me among those who despise the Varsity. All grease, no taste. I’m surprised there’s no love here for Zesto, which makes fantastic ice cream concoctions as well as good burgers and chicken fingers.
I try to avoid fast food, but I am a loyal Chick-fil-a customer. Everything on their menu is fresh and tasty. Even though I’m not a church-goer myself, I have a lot of respect for a company that puts principles above the bottom line.
Chic Fil -A’s southwestern salad–a whole piece of grilled chicken breast-cut in strips atop lots of veggies with a little bit of corn, black beans and packaged toppings and the balsamic dressing. All for around 5 bucks.
Very filling and healthy fast food.
Interesting! I wonder how you’d do that and keep with health code standards. I’m assuming you’d have to cook the bacon and then plop it in there. How much bacon per liter of vodka? How salty? That is such a unique concept. I have enjoyed herb-infused vodkas in Athens at Farm 255 and the 5&10, but I haven’t heard of this. It might be fun to try! Good convo topic.
Zestos for ice cream, Steak n Shake for burgers, Zaxby’s for chicken, Chick Filet for Lemonade, Einsteins for bagels of any kind, Publix for subs, Sonics for slushes and McDonalds only when nothing else is available. Hummm … maybe it’s time for me to start eating from home more often.
Funny bit is I try to avoid fast food if at all possible. I’ll do Zaxby’s and Chik-fil-a. Taco Bell once in a rare while and Wendy’s if I must…I go to McDonalds maybe 1 in 2-3 years. Varsity is great…the 1 time in 2-3 years I get to go there.
Thanks MFG…though I must admit I made the suggestion with a tounge in cheek review in mind.
Anyone else think it’s disgraceful that Chic-Fil-A, which is hands down the best fast food restaurant, has such godawful fries? Come on Mr. Truett, replace those awful waffle fries with the real thing.
I’ve lived in Atlanta 18 years and cannot abide either the Varsity or Chick-fil-a. Awful fries and soggy chicken at Chick-fil-a and all grease and no taste at Varsity. I’ll take the spicy chicken at Popeye’s any day and their cajun rice is a fantastic side. I do agree that the fries at McD’s can’t be beat. Haven’t tried Chipolte as there are none near us but the dish you describe sounds awful – perhaps they have something else. Church’s chicken is as bad as KFC.
For fresh speedy fast food, check out Downtown Gourmet at 123 Peachtree Street NE, near Congressman John Lewis’ office. It’s a family operation, with great salads and schwarma (gyros). I’ve been there several times, and everything’s been fresh and delicious.
Trois in Midtown has a great cocktail called (IIRC) “Bacon & Waffles”. It based on the Old-Fashioned, starts with bacon-infused bourbon, maple syrup, and Cointreau to taste, served in a rocks glass and garnished with orange. Breakfast of Champions!
How can you not mention Taqueria del sol…maybe you don’t consider it fast food? Which I guess I understand, but the service is fast…many times I’m in and out in 15 minutes…and the place ROCKS !!!! as far as traditional fast food goes, I LOVE chick filet and hate the the bible thumping, let’s be closed on Sundays attitude [ but must admit, that's one superstitious fool, who walks the walk, by giving up 1/7 of possible sales to honor his imaginary god ion the sky ]
The bbq sauce there is amazing on a chick filet sandwich….
I’ll throw out a vote for Atlanta’s newcomer, El Pollo Loco. The salsa is always fresh, the chicken is tasty, and it feels a bit healthier than the typical greasebag fast food meal. Love their Burrito Pollo.
I guess food should not be ‘reviewed’ because obviously what one person enjoys (finds to be great) others are not necessarily of the same opinion. Yes, I know you spent years doing the culinary thing (degree chef and waitperson)….still it is just a single person’s opinion.
Best meal: Moe’s — particularly the Homewrecker.
Best dish: Zaxby’s — Toungetorched finger plate. The onion peels are darn good too.
Best Fries: Now that everyone is ZTF the fries are all ugh! ugh! ugh! Probably Checkers if I have to pick one — but I would rather have a Checker’s fried pie.
Best Sandwich: I will agree with you on Chick fil A for chicken. However, Steak n Shake for a burger is a very close match.
Best side: KFC coleslaw.
Honorable mention for the once a year fast junk food fix: Taco Bell Nacho Bell Grande.
Darin, I second Hines’ suggestion about La Petite Maison. I’ve eaten there twice, and both meals have been good. I haven’t yet tried FAB or Au Pied de Cochon, but the former, at least, might be a little closer to you.
He’s more into photo ops & doing whatever he can, with the exception of cooking, to keep his name in the press. It’s so sad that he thinks he can now play in the big leagues with all the major players just because he was on Top Chef. We all know that his track record proves otherwise. He’s proven he’s still a minor leaguer because he can’t run a resturant unless someone else is holding very tight reigns. His 15 minutes has to be almost over.
dawgfan, tried El Pollo Loco one time..I will never go back there..Even the two 6 year olds said it was horrible..We wound up throwing our food in the trash and going somewhere else to eat..
The VARSITY is absolutely disgusting. I have never had food that bad in my life. Ate there once, NEVER AGAIN. I’ve never eaten at the Chipotle, but went to their website and the food looks pretty good. I’d give it a try. McDonald’s does have to BEST FRIES. I love Chick Fila chicken salad sandwich w/ waffle fries and lemonade (they have the best lemonade). The only thing I eat at Church’s is their bombers, they are the best, their chicken is terrible. I do wish they had a White Castle here, they are much better than Krystals.
I agree… the Varsity is nasty disgusting food. May have been good “back in the day” but today, it’s not worth the trouble. Fries are greasy, wimpy limp soggy messes. Chili dogs are nothing to crow about either. As far as their onion rings… FAIL… breaded onion rings are NOT the way to make onion rings, batter dipped or nothing.
Lay off Chic-fil-A not opening on Sunday! It’s a private business! I suppose you have a problem with Jewish establishments that close on their Sabboth also, right? The way some of you people think, why don’t you demand that every restaurant stay open 24-7?
The posters who hate the The Varsity are obviously tranplants. I grew up on “chilli dogs” and lived on them for four years in Athens. The “cruisin” at the “V” in the late 50’s and early 60’s was somrhting to behold on Friday and Saturday nights.
The food is greasy and good! I am still kicking at 66.
You people are crazy eating food from the VARSITY, the burgers are no bigger than a quarter, you can squeeze the onion rings between your fingers and grease drips out, and the chili for the chili dogs, looks like something eaten in a third world county. You can keep that…YUCK.
My favorite fast food fries: 1)Chick-fil-a waffle fries 2) Checkers 3) McDonald’s. As for Chick-fil-a closing on Sundays, I think it is so refreshing to see a national chain observe an old-fashioned (but still appropriate) tradition. I used to work there during college; it was so nice to be off every Sunday
Chick fil A Just opened in my area.(Inland Empire) southern
California. Loved the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich with Buffalo sauce. Very hot but so, so good!! A little annoyed that they won’t put the sauce on the sandwich. But well worth the hassle.
I’m not familiar with most of the fast food previously discussed, but it all sounds yummy. Funny how one person’s feast is yuk to somebody else. . .
Those Varsity chili dogs sound great to me. Is the ‘In-N-Out
‘ chain in states other than Ca.? If not
you’re missing a great cheese burger. The Double/Double can’t be beat
Thanks for listening
DJ
Chick fil A Just opened in my area.(Inland Empire) southern
California. Loved the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich with Buffalo sauce. Very hot but so, so good!! A little annoyed that they won’t put the sauce on the sandwich. But well worth the hassle.
I’m not familiar with most of the fast food previously discussed, but it all sounds yummy. Funny how one person’s feast is yuck to somebody else. . .
Those Varsity chili dogs sound great to me. Is the ‘In-N-Out
‘ chain in states other than Ca.? If not
you’re missing a great cheese burger. The Double/Double can’t be beat
Thanks for listening
DJ
Becky
Shocked at your comments on El Polio Loco. Maybe a bad day or location.
I have always had consistantly delicious chicken and sides.
Chicken marinated then grilled to perfection, tasty cole slaw
and soft warm tortillas. Yum
DJ
Best fries are either zaxby’s or zesto both are ripple cut and are fairly thick and tasty. Mackyd’s is ok If you want french fries with your chick-fil-a go to ther original hapeville they have ff and you can not get waffle fries there. Home wrecker at moe’s is the best fast burrito food although its a little pricey. best cheap fast food? whatevers on sale at checkers.
The Varsity??? C’mon, you’re kidding me, right? Granted the place is an Atlanta icon, but the food? It is AWFUL!!! Agreat place to go if you need your system flushed.
Best Burgers & Fries – Five Guys fixed your way, quickly, great quality
Best Onion Rings – Sonic Sorry, they don’t come with an extra quart of oil for your beater.
My favorite fast food has to be Chipotle. I LOVE this place. The burrito bowl rocks!
Not a lover of McD’s but I do love Chick-fil-A. I tried the Varsity once and that one time was enough for me. I can’t say I have ever had any desire to go back. But, it is an Atlanta icon, so to fulfill your good citizenship requirements, you have to eat there at least once.
Haven’t tried El Polo Loco but I will try it soon.
Not everybody likes the Varsity, not even every Atlanta native likes it, but if you grew up on it like I did, you’d love it. Not just the food either, but the whole Varsity experience as a teenager with a muscle car, cruising on Friday and Saturday night. I guess it’s what you grow up with. People from Cincinnati love their “chili”, I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for it. Baltimorons crave crabs, I can take them or leave them, don’t see the attraction. Yes, the Varsity is greasy, but it’s the best around. And for Moe’s? How can anyone eat that stuff? If you want Mexican food, go to a Mexican restaurant. Much cheaper and MUCH better.
For the above person who suggested Moe’s. You are a fool. Moe’s has by far the worst burrito of all burrito establishments. Willie’s started in Atlanta, and dominates both Chipotle and Moe’s. Q-Doba and Barberitos are good as well, but I don’t know if they have them in ATL.
Chick-Fil-A is incredible, especially for breakfast.
Bojangles cajun chicken biscuits (served all day) are incredibly good and cheap.
The first mall Chick-fil-A opened at Greenbriar in 67, but the true first Chick-fil-A restaurant was Truett’s Dwarf House in Hapeville.
Scott -there’s an IN and Out Burger at the corner of Piedmont and Sidney Marcus.
I can’t believe someone posted that a chick-fil-a was too expensive for a chicken sandwich! Please! It’s the best chicken sandwich in the world! I wish it was open on Sunday too, but as another said, it’s a private business and I don’t think they’re hurting financially. I used to work there in high school, and it was great to have every Sunday off.
KRYSTAL -when I have a true “nasty” fast food craving -that’s where it’s at! YUM-their fries suck, but a sackful of cheese Krystals is a wonderful thing.
Church’s? Really? POPEYE’S -that’s where the good ff fried chicken lives, and I still get a jones now and then for Kentucky Fried (have always hated the KFC branding).
Five Guys ROCKS. Those are some tasty burgers!
Varsity is best as a nostalgia joint. I don’t hate their food -it’s good grease -but it’s not better than a lot of FF in Atlanta these days.
You can get so much yummy variety AND ice cream at Zesto -especially their milkshakes!
Robert -there’s a Qdoba at the Whole Foods/Borders/Home Depot center on Ponce across from City Hall East. I think I’ve seen others around town too -not many though.
reservoirDAWG, tried the tacos and a burrito..I was at the location in Hiram..The entire experience was not worth going back..The people were not friendly, the place was dirty and the food was bad..Maybe I’l try the one on Thorntom Rd., it might be better…
As for the Varsity, others may be right, it’s a southern thing that takes getting used to..
Lay off of Chick-fil-A for being closed on Sunday..We as a nation, don’t take enough time to relax and anjoy the good things that we have..
Zaxby’s fan calling Chick-Fil-A expensive – you’re nuts. Zaxby’s bends you over for every sauce, I am surprised Vaseline is not one of them and they don’t serve milk last time I checked.
If it weren’t for Chick-Fil-A setting the standard McDonnald’s would still rule the roost, but they have made McDonalds better.
I agree on the five guys combo being the best. Steak and Shake next. That is with a tasting of the Varsity and Fatburger in the past week.
Chipotle’s pork is the best thing going and their rice with the cilantro in it has made me tolerate cilantro better.
I do love McDonalds and 5 guys fries and varsity fries have been really good lately too. Chick-Fila may not be the best, but they are consistently good as are Krystals. You can’t say that about Wendy’s or Burger King.
Robert, how can you call someone a fool for liking Moe’s, then say that Chick-fil-A is incredible for breakfast..Their biscuits are horrible..They are doughy and sweet..I thought that Willie’s and Moe’s were started by the same people and later split..Does anyone know if thats true or not?
I’m with the poster that said Five Guys is overrated..US Cafe in Smyrna is much better..Can’t wait to try In and Out Burgers..
Have you ever sat at a fast food drive thru and watch what the employees do? Watch where and what they do with their hands…
You may never eat at one again. I guess this could be said about most restaurants. Additionally, what is up with McD, Wendy’s, and most other burger joints making the beef patty hours ahead and sitting them in either water or hot oil under a heat lamp, what happened to fresh cooked? You can never get a burger the way it is advertised. And Burger King, and I do believe McDonalds, whats up with microwaving before it goes out the drive thru window? Do you know what that does to food? A microwaved bun is yuck..
Five Guys and any other place that still cooks to order will always be better than the other guys.
Varsity has gone up on their prices in the last year or so, it now pays to just go to a Five Guys or Steak and Shake for better quality, nearly priced food.
I may have made a mistake -it may be a FatBurger at the corner of Sidney Marcus and Piedmont. I get those two mixed up all the time. Check before you go to avoid major disappointment!
Now I get your comments on El Pollo Loco. They used to serve chicken exclusively. They now try to compete on too many products. Many are mediocre at best. Stick with the chicken. Go to your favorite Mex restsurant for burritos and tacos.
Enjoyed your reminesing about Varsity. I am close to your
age and remember fondly a local (So Calif.) high school
hangout, ‘ Der Wienerschnitzel’. Cold fall and winter nights
after the game we could find most of our friends at the
‘Schnitz’ crusin, sharing laughs, and enjoying spicy chili cheese dogs
(hold the onions of course if you were on a date!!) My then boyfriend, now husband of 39
yrs rarely missed a Fri night. Great memories.
Enjoyed your reminiscing about Varsity. I am close to your
age and remember fondly a local (So Calif.) high school
hangout, ‘ Der Wienerschnitzel’. Cold fall and winter nights
after the game we could find most of our friends at the
‘Schnitz’ crusin, sharing laughs, and enjoying spicy chili cheese dogs
(hold the onions of course if you were on a date!!) My then boyfriend, now husband of 39
yrs rarely missed a Fri night. Great memories.
DJ, I’ll do that…The reason that I even tried the place is because I make it a point when the grandkids are over to let them pick out somewhere new..I want them to be able to go anywhere and know how to behave while we are out to dinner…
I LOVE the Varsity…so good and such a great slice of ATL history! This isn’t gourmet, just good fried good and the chili dogs are the best. I always ask my husband to take me there for valentines, it has turned into a family tradition. Willies will always beat Moe’s butt…their pork is soooooo good. i am suprised no one has mentioned Miss Anne of Anne’s Snack shack on memorial drive. THE BEST BURGER EVER.
The old Zesto’s was the bomb… can’t forget the Onion Rings at Dairy Queen… Krystals has good fries only when they are hot… The Varsity is really good but since the Olympics came the price continues to go up. Zaxby is good but way to pricey along with Chick fi la.
To sum it up… A pack of hotdogs (beef) on sale runs $2.50 plus buns $1, nice chopped onions $.50 and bag of Kroger fries $1.50 with Plus card, can Hormel Chili no beans $1.99. Feed 3 people for the price of a #1 at the Varsity….
The only problem with this list is that the only healthy meal can be found at Chipolte. Have you checked out the Sodium level in everything that is sold at Chic-Fil-A. The only thins low in sodium there are the napkins
I’m a heart surgeon in Georgia, and I’m hoping all of you will see me in a few years.Now that the government is taking over over the health coverage, I really need more and more patients.Please keep eating all the fast food you can chow down, you and I will meet in the very near future.
I would never believed it possible, but I think Steak & Shake fries have finally surpassed even McDonald’s. Straight out of the fryer both are out of this world but I think S&S has pulled slightly ahead with me.
The Varsity has lost it’s magic for me ! Soggy onion rings, shrunken hot dogs, wilted fires….The only thing that is the same…..Frosted orange! After 40 years of at least once a week…..no more!!
I was trying to pinpoint the time when the Varsity changed the way of preparing their fare. I think it was when the daughter of the owner took over….but then I think she sold it and now it doesn’t even come close to what it was.
Briefly, The Varsity does not have good food, especially a few hours later; McDonald’s fries, like the rest of its food varies wildly – Wendy’s fries for fast food are good and consistent; Chic-Fil-A – bland; finally, it’s interesting that no one commented on the Church’s thing – Popeye’s everything is much better, Bojangles too.
Pollo Campero (in the old Don Taco on Jimmy Carter Blvd.) hands down if you’re looking for fried or grilled chicken. Service is fast, prices are reasonable and the place is clean. Much better than El Pollo Locco.
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Sorry but that ghetto burger is the most over rated piece of crap ever. The only thing else that is over rated is the Varsity, which serves food that tastes like what I got in elementary school cafeterias… I dont understand how people can put up with it let alone love it.
A BBQ sliced pork samwich on toasted white bread from Harold’s is about the best thing to eat on earth…… wish I could get to it weekly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Jackson’s death at 50, heck even Farah Fawcett at 62, does make one think about that “last supper.” I would agree with you on the The Varsity and Bacchanalia but would have to get my “Cue Fix” somewhere before my time came… say Swallow in the Hollow or Pig-n-Chik… And there would have to be sweet tea and lots of it… maybe from Chick-fil-A of all places… I find myself spending a lot of time in their drive-thru’s on these hot summer days.
My last meal wouldn’t come from a restaurant..It would be fried porks chops, fried potatoes, corn on the cob and hot buttered biscuits..With sweet potato pie for dessert..
I agree with Larry about the Varsity. It’s greasy, it’s small and not very substantial. Every time I have been there, the amount of fat that supplants taste makes me physically ill. Not good. I have heard Ann’s is overrated before, but I have yet to go there. That being said, I understand the nuance of someone WILLFULLY treating you poorly at their place of business, but I choose not to patronize such a place. What ever happened to service with a smile? Not service when I am damn good and ready.
Check out Uptown Breakfast in Roswell for the best benedicts and Tara Humata for margaritas and chips.
Once upon a time, I too, would have listed the Varsity in my top picks. But after having eaten there this past Monday, I was sadly disappointed. It’s just not the same. Now, as far as the best burgers…go to George’s in Virginia Highlands. It ain’t “ghetto”, but it sho is tasty….
I will never understand the obsession with boiled peanuts. Nothing like eating something with the consistency of sinus-infection snot, and about the same taste. Peanuts should be roasted, or mashed into butter.
Already gone: Lums for hotdogs boiled in beer and clams and Olley’s trolley for the “Ollie Burger”. Older native Atlantan’s know what I’m talkin’ ’bout.
Varsity is nasty. I heard all the hype and visited and didn’t even finish my meal. The hamburger was dry and the hot dog tasted three days old. I’ve had better chili from a can.
Mmmmmmm… Lum’s hotdogs steamed in beer and piled high with sauerkraut! Their french fries with the seasoned salt were also to die for. Thanks for reminding me of great food & good times, sthop456!
I had what I thought was a stroke of genious a few months back and, on the theory that everything tastes better with bacon, made myself a drink of rum, pineapple juice and bacon. It was the most disgusting thing I ever drank. The bacon fat completely ruined it. So be careful out there!!
I have been living overseas for the past decade and sure do miss good ol’ Georgia soul food! At this point I would pay top $$$ for a home-cooked meal of buttermilk fried chicken, black-eyed peas and collard greens with pepper sauce, fried okra, squash casserole and cornbread, with a tall glass of iced tea…followed by peach cobbler with homemade vanilla ice cream. Man o’ man, my mouth starts waterin’ every time I think on it. Anybody know where I can find a meal like that next time I drop in?
p.s. My great Uncle Ralph “Hot Papa” Wages was said to make the best BBQ hash in the state when he used to work out at the Athens Country Club. Wouldn’t mind to have some o’ that either. Mmmmm-mmm GOOD!
I’ve never heard of anyone who “hates” the Chic-fil-A cows!! Sacrilege!
Those cows are the most delightful ad of Atlanta. They always give me a chuckle when I spot them on billboards. They are always current and funny. I hope to see them twittering soon.
As for the rest of your comments, I agree with your “best of” opinions. I love the Varsity, too, but can’t eat it as often as I used to. Never tried Chipotle, but you’ve peaked my curiosity.
One more beef I have – when describing food, one should never use the word “snotty”. For those of us with weak stomachs and vivid imaginations, that is a total turn off. I didn’t care to read anymore after that.
The Cuban sandwiches at the old Havana Sandwich Shop on Buford Highway were the absolute best. I understand that they moved somewhere north of the City after the fire last spring. Does anyone know where they are now? I crave the half sandwich plate with black beans!
Varsity’s is the ugly armpit of Atlanta. How you can pick it for the best of anything, even the best of fast food, is beyond me. I can only assume you are playing to the crowd with this one. I’m not real impressed with the rest of your selections either, but then I don’t like fast food, so I’m a little biased. Still, everyone and everything is better than the Varsity, shame on you for selling out.
I wish there was an In N Out here, but they are only on the west coast. Zaxby’s are my fave fries. For some reason, McD’s fries don’t taste like they used to, and I don’t eat there anymore. I wasn’t impressed with Varsity, but I am not a native and I think my expectations were too high after hearing folks rave about it for a year before I finally tried some. Chipotle is good and so is El Pollo Loco, but it’s much better in Cali (food & service) for some strange reason. Never had Zesto’s, but I am going there today!
I agree with all your fast food choices. I seldom eat out these days, but I DO get cravings for anything from The Varsity….so we trek down to North Avenue. Town Center does NOT have the same atmosphere at all. As for no Chik Fil A on Sundays, well, bravo to them for standing by their religious convictions! McDonalds fries DO rock! Umm…and I agree with other posters…..what about Krystals???? I LOVE them!!! So what if all these fast food recommendations are not “healthy”? Just don’t go there every day. Splurge every now and then. I had a heart attack and was being tranferred via ambulance to Crawford Long. I pleaded and begged that they let me stop my The Varsity. Alas, they could not be swayed. But I SO WANTED a grilled pimento cheese sandwich, onion rings and a frosted orange. So, when I was released from the hospital, I bet you can guess where the first stop was before I came home. Yep….The Varsity!!!! And it was oh so good!!!!!
Qdoba and Chipotle run a close tie for the best burritos in town. (Qdoba has one with roasted squash, zucchini, etc., which is terrific.) And about once a season, I just have to make a Varsity pilgrimage to get those yummy, greasy onion rings and park on the rooftop parking deck overlooking midtown.
Varsity food – overrated – been eating there since the 60’s – not the same – change the grease more often, people!!!!
Fries – 5 Guys for real.
Chic-fil-a – do something about your fries please
Grew up in Atlanta with occasional family trips to the Varsity and Krystal. Teen years in the 1960’s, a bunch of pals would pile in a Mustang or GTO and cruise the V. Now in our fifties and sixties, we still rendezvous there,
I lead a healthy moderate lifestyle and am not fat. Like they say in England: “A little of what you fancy does you good.” The only time I ever eat an onion ring is at the V. And they are battered, not breaded. Pulleaze!
Hint: try the grilled pimiento cheese sandwich at the V. Yum! Not to mention the fried peach pie a la mode.
Recently cleaned out a box of cancelled checks from UGA days in the 1970’s. There were many checks for three dollars or so written to the Athens Varsity. (And they used to sell beer!)
Having left Atlanta 20 years ago and only getting back once a year or so to visit, I wish the Varsity would figure out a way to ship onion rings and chili dogs across the country without the rings going limp.
El Pollo Loco has really good chicken but their Taco Bell type foods are way too greasy and lack in flavor. I gotta go with Popeye’s for some tasty fried chicken. McD’s fries aren’t good anymore and Wendy’s fries have gotten better… but Zaxby’s fries are great with the seasoned salt and they now have onion rings which are yummy. Steak n Shake fries are way too thin. Chipotle is delicious, way better than Moe’s and Willie’s. For breakfast, Martin’s large chicken biscuit is the way to go with a large sweet tea. 15yrs in GA and still no Varsity for me… I’ll pass. As far as Krystal and White Castle, too much bread and onions… where’s the meat? Hardee’s has some good burgers but a little pricey. Think I’m gonna have to get a Chipotle fix soon.
The VARSITY is awesomeeee . I was born an raised here . I can remeber years back when ii was a child there use to be an old man there that would be hollaring any one else rember this? dang good food onion rings and chili dogs to the haters yall just aint southern lol
If the Varsity is so disgusting then why do they sell over 30,000 dogs on a football saturday? It is nostalgic for many of us who are from the area so if you don’t have anything good to say then move back to where ever you came from. PLEASE!
2 chilli cheese dogs, rings, fried
(I like) apple pie, and a PC (Chocolate Milk on shaved ICE) is a tradition for DAD and I as we go to the First home TECH Game every year. I you don’t like the V fine, but I would not trust the empyolees, other than Chic-fil-a’s, to not do crap to my food from all the other places mentioned.
Steph his NAME is ERBY WALKER and he has passed, but will never be forgotten. I guess you are to young to remember or to have ever had the pleasure of FLOSSY MAE sing to you while He/She delivered meals wearing THAT HAT. People nothing against the new locations, but if you havn’t been to The Varsity in Atlanta or Athens or the Jr. Varsity in Atlanta then it just isn’t the same. Gordon Muir keep up the tradition.
As anyone looked in the mirror lately? How much excess fat are you lugging around? 30 lbs? 40? Go have another greasy heart clogging disgusting non-nutritive fast food meal.
Janie- you had a Heart Attack and wanted them to get you the Varsity? Nothing would make me want a fried cheese sandwich with fries and a 1000 calorie orange shake.
It’s like my dying of liver failure, and I get picked up after it finally fails… and I want a pitcher of beer and a double shot of vodka. Are you retarded? You are probably dead by now, for good reason.
The Varsity is highly overrated. Nostalgic, old, yes… Good food? No. Good tasting bad food? Not even that. Every time I’ve taken an out of towner there they look at the place and go Wow! They eat the food and go UGH! It ain’t all that.
In the 40’s,late at night, after studying all evening at Tech, we would go up to the Varsity for a midnight snack. We had no money so this was the only place we could afford but the food was great. They still have much of the same things on the menu. None of the other fast food places mentioned in this article were in existence back then.
the campari brand tomatoes are absolutely stellar. sweet, juicy and never bland. they are a little expensive but so worth it. i eat the entire container in about two minutes.
sthop456, Oh my..My first job (as a cook) was at Lums..I was 17, started as a waitress, one day the regional manager came in and I had to be his server..Talk about scared to death..A few days after he left, my manager called me into his office and told me that per the regional managers request, I was gonig to train to be a cook..This was at the one on S.Cobb Dr..My older brother cooked at the one on Roswell Rd. I also rememeber Ollie’s burgers..
The 4th begs the GRILL… It doesn’t matter what you grill just so long you’re grilling it…. We’ll probably do dawgs on the grill… is there any food that is more evocative of July 4th as the noble hot dog? We’ll also smoke a little pork butt… low and slow… Brunswick stew Meredith? Do you have a recipe you can share? I’m a devotee but unfortunately my “Grandma” passed before I got her church recipe. It had no beef and very little tomatoes… chicken, butter beans, corn and a small amount of potatoes… to name a few of the ingredients… Growing up in NC it was a component of my favorite meal… BBQ pork, Brunswick stew, corn bread, fresh sliced tomatoes and cucumber and onions in a vinegar and sugar…
We’ll be grilling out in Orange Beach, Alabama at our rented beachside house and watching the fireworks display put on by the City of Gulf Shores. Can’t wait!
All these people complaining about the Varsity are obviously not native Atlantans. As someone that grew up on the Varsity, it definitely makes my top 5 list. And as far as the dogs being 3 days old, well, that’s just plain wrong since it says right on the side of the box that they don’t serve any food over 12 hours old.
Places in Atlanta you have to eat before you die…
1.Pancakes @ Rias Bluebird
2.Biscuit @ Biscuits and More/Fagans Biscuit Barn
3.BBQ @ BBQ1
4.Meat and three @ Carvers Country Kitchen
5.Dinner @ Rathbuns
Honorable mention: Pastries A Gogo, Varsity, Vortex, Daddy Dz, Swallow at the Hollow, Baccanalia
I’m glad someone mentioned Ollie’s Trolley. I have mentioned them to several people and they look at me like I am slack eyed. An Ollie burger and fries now that was good eating…
Last meal? Go for the delicious buttermilk fried chicken and taters at Agnes and Muriels in Midtown. Or maybe the succulent Fish n’ Chips and Belgian pint at Decatur’s Brickstore.
What the heck is Big Orange??? Whenever I go to The Varsity, and shame on y’all for picking on an Atlanta landmark, I always order an F.O., or Frosted Orange. They change the menu on me?
Larry, Andy, Babs, & Jenn H need to get back to yankeeland where they belong.Please allow me to add in the words of the late,great Lewis Grizzard, “Delta is ready when you are.”
Hey Mr./Ms. Name Required: if you have eaten boiled pnuts as you describe, they were not done right, in fact it sounds like you got mixed up with boiled okra. A boiled pnut done right is not soggy, it is just right firm just right amount of salt, and when done right you can’t eat just one. But boiled pnuts like grits and other southern delicacies get fixed wrong many times by non-natives (like grits with sugar and cream????? eeewwww gross, no wonder those poor yanks think they are nasty…they ARE like that!!!)
We used to have a dependable source for good boiled pnuts, the man in Stone Mountain village, but that was years ago. We have since had to resourt to fixin our own b/c apparently there is NO one who knows how. I am guessing that they buy canned boiled pnuts which are already on the mushy tasteless side and then boil them some more with salt and water, to say they are fresh boiled, so yes you would end up with a snotty consistancy. Sorry that had to be your first (and probably last) experience with a boiled pnut.
Sorry, Robert but as at Atlanta native (well, lived here since age 3, now 38) I have to agree with others on here about the Varsity. It is just god-awful. For nostalgia, you can’t beat it and once every two or three years I will think, oh, it can’t be as bad as I remember…I’ll go, get a slaw dog, a chili dog and onion rings, eat a bite of each then toss it out and cry at having wasted $7 on that sludge. Fun for people watching, but take your own food or just get a coke.
For me, some of those RDA boiled peanuts and some BBQ from Harolds, original Pig n Chick or Swallow at the Hollow would make the list of Atlanta “last meals” for sure!
For all you Varsity haters……You HAVE to admit that the onion rings can’t be beat…nobody does onion rings like the Varsity- Say what you will about the dogs/ but you gotta give it up for the rings! And anyone who don’t like boiled peanuts…you aint a true georgian!
We’ve been going to St. Martin for 20+ years now. Hope you stayed at L’Esplanade (up on the hill above Grand Case) and hope you met Stephane and Bruno at Le Cottage! Another good lunch spot (for your next trip) is Layla’s.
The restaurants in Grand Case are over-rated for the most part. Probably the only one that comes close to great French cuisine is Le Pressoir; even it wouldn’t make it in France or St. Barth’s. I agree with Meredith on Spiga: absolutely the worst Italian food on the island. How they can charge for that horrific experience is beyond my understanding; the owner should have paid the patrons to eat his drivel. Talk of the Town is one of my favorites on the island. The Creole touch on beach grill food can’t be beat. That said, if one is looking for fine dining and fine hotels, go to St. Barth. St. Martin’s days as the culinary capital are long gone, like most of its great hotels and villas. Good 20-30 years ago; bad for the last 10 years.
Amen to the Fresh Air BBQ in Jackson!! I grew up eating their BBQ and haven’t found a pork sandwich or brunswick stew anywhere that’s even close! They also have locations in Macon and Athens. The Athens location is a great stop for Bulldog tailgating food.
There is still a Rio Vista in Jackson and Griffin..
Is there anyone from the Cobb County area that remembers George’s Steaks on Atlanta Rd. Steak to die for..So tender,that you could cut it with a fork..
Best onion rings on the planet? Beacon Drive In in Spartanburg SC. WOW. For my last meal, I’d have to leave Atlanta… I’d either hit Lotus Pond in Clemmons, NC (their crispy scallion chicken rocks) or the Main Stream Fish House in Dallas, TX — they had (argh, just found out they closed) a tomato butter sauce that was to die for — you could’ve eaten old shoes with that stuff.
You are not the only one who prayed for the Dark Chocolate Reese’s cup.
I also wrote them several times over the past year. Now I did find that in certain regions of the US, last year they had a special Halloween dark chocolate cup, but it did not release nationally.
I’m glad they have it and if they are prudent, they will add it to their permanent line up of products…
I’m willing to try it..The only thing is that I don’t like dark chocolate..Actually, I could live without chocolate 99% of the time..OK, go ahead and say that I’m crazy because I don’t care for chocolate..I have been told that all of my 47 years..
Ooh — I’ve dipped a peanut butter-coated spoon in dark chocolate chips before too. Good to know I’m not alone. I also recommend dipping bits of Valrhona dark chocolate in Smucker’s natural peanut butter. So good.
I’ll try the new dark Reese’s. I hope I like it better than the Newman’s Own dark chocolate peanut butter cup. It’s weird, because most of the Newman’s Own products are really good, but that one is oddly lacking in flavor.
The best meat and 3 in the city is Barbeque Kitchen on Virginia Avenue near the airport. Awsome biscuits! Another good one is the OK Cafe at the corner of West Paces Ferry and Northside. Gotta love their homemade corn muffins! No Jiffy Mix there!
i would love to have a burger from ollie’s trolley, with all the special sauce they used to dress em’ with. a hot dog from the cart that used to set up in the old central park downtown. and fruity sweet tea to wash em’ down. man.. i could eat that everyday for the rest of my life! forget about my health.
The Vortex! Love, love love their burgers and even the chicken sandwich. AND the tater tots can’t be beat! Great people watching opportunity as well. Midtowm is my favorite but Little Five Points will do in a pinch…
I sure did miss out. I was in Atlanta with my band and we had a bunch of time before our gig. I was really looking forward to some local authentic cuisine. So where did we end up? At one of those combo taco bell / KFC places. I kid you not. Reading this article and the comments make me want to weep for my loss.
KC BBQ in Sandysprings is pretty good. Busy Bee, Landons, Pelgreens is where you can get that buttermilk chicken. Marietta Dinner overrated, Buckhead dinner overrated and the Ghetto Burger has no taste. Still looking for the best STEAKS around, Chicago’s in Marietta have a good ribeye, and prime rib. Prime in lenox is OK, I am headed to Rathbuns nextweek check his out. Ruth chris does a great prime rib. Still looking for a good aged steak any suggestions>
My first trip to the Varsity was in 1960 when I drove from Nashville, TN in my Candy Apple 1957 Corvette. Thought I was in heaven. Moved to Atlanta a year later and never looked back. Still go to the Varsity but not more than once a month, still watching my weight and health.
My next favorite is Baccnanalia. Having dinner there tonight. Don’t go there as often as the Varsity, too $$$$$$$$$$
-R. Thomas Deluxe Grill
-Slice
-Flying Biscuit Cafe
-Matthews Cafeteria
-Red Snapper
-Savage Pizza
-Fat Matt’s Rib Shack
-Greenwoods on the Green
-Dominick’s
-McCray’s Tavern on the Square (Cool patio on the roof)
-Capri Italian American Cafe (Call ahead very small)
-Burger Joe’s
-O K Cafe
-Eats (Off Ponce)
-Thai Restaurant of Norcross (Not the best area but amazing food)
From the Mid-west to the West Coast now in the South I thank you for the suggestions on places to eat here and near to ATL. PS. you folks sure like to fight. LOL
I tried it the second day they were open. I wanted to like it, but the burgers had a strange, dense texture that I found unpleasant, and the fries were ennnh, even with the interesting ketchup options. I’d be willing to go and order something else, but it just seems like their flagship item should be better.
Hey there! Thanks for the plug…! Michele here…having a great time sourcing all this great stuff from local farmers and producers. Stuff you’ll never see on the shelves at the grocery store…sadly, but markets are where it’s at!
Just one correction…my number to contact is 404-428-6300 and farmers get a monthly rate $75 or can do a 5% commission. Thanks for supporting small farmers!!
You know, if the folks at the stores had any clue as to what to do with a reusable bag it would be fine, but they don’t. My wife and I have been using fabric bags for 20 years, but at least in California they knew what to do with them. Here, they are so used to the plastic that they look at you funny when you hand them the fabric ones. Also, they mindlessly have been taught 3 items per bag, period. Who owns enough reusables to put only 3 items in a bag??? How about load until full??
When stores get their acts together, then maybe they can start demanding more of their customers. Until then, plastic please.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld with the “non-fat” frozen yogurt. There ain’t nothing like the real thing. Don’t fool yourself. Why spend your hard-earned dollar on a tasteless healthy burger? Just eat your FiveGuys (or whatever horrible/great thing you like), but do it less often. Happy times ensue….
Come get sustainable GA Peaches from Pearson Farms at the East Atlanta Farmers Market–Thursday Afternoons from 4p-dusk at the Ace Hardware. FARMEAV.COM
I’m up for any home-town win! My personal favorite of these three is Chef Hector, but that’s only because I had my first taste of mofongo at Pura Vida a few years back and I’ve yet to forget that experience.
It would so totally qualify for that “Best Thing I Ever Ate” show for me.
“Real” tapas? I would consider “real tapas” something from Eclipse di Luna — food that you would find in Spain. No matter — quite an exciting list — especially with Gillespie. I think TC and Bravo stepped it up this year after a poor season last time around.
SIg — sorry, but I hardly think saying that I’m not as familiar with chef Kirshtein’s food as I’d like to be and that I’m excited for him and looking forward to watching him with interest is disrespectful.
Rodney — that show is a hoot, isn’t it?
I’m with Marquis on this one. As much as I’d like to try & eat healthier, it’s just not worth the $ to me if it’s gonna taste bland or even kinda nasty. Might as well enjoy yourself, just in moderation. Yay Five Guys!!
To David S: Please bear with certain stores that aren’t up to par with recycling and sustainability measures. Publix shoppers are using cloth resuable bags in abundance where I shop. It’s over the top to blast an area you now reside in about how much better your previous home was – a little tact goes a long way. Also, can’t help but sliding in this comment – the state of California is in a financial meltdown right now so your timing on lauding its grandness with resusable bags is rather laughable. No one region has it all together neighbor.
I think that Eli Kirshtein’s style and knowledge of his craft is nothing short of genious. I was told by friends to try out the relatively new chef at Eno. I did, and was more than pleased. He is also the youngest contestant, and I believe that he is going to give them a run for the money. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go very far.
I am amazed that three of our local chefs have made it to Top Chef. It speaks volumes about Atlanta’s up and coming world class cuisine. Hector’s food is always very tasty and solid. Kevin is masterful in the kitchen. He is creative and consistent. Eli is a wild card. He’s young and passionate about his food. I ate one of the best meals of my life at his restaurant several monthes back. I had no idea at the time that he would be a candidate for Top Chef, but he more than fills his shoes.
I don’t drink tap water at my house without it being filtered so I’m not going to when I’m out to eat. IF the resto is filtering their tap water, I’m all for it.
Lord knows it’s cheaper than two bottles of Panna.
In high school I worked at a small local miniature golf course – we made homemade ice cream every day and sold it and my FAVORITE was peach. Jeez, just thinking about it now brings back such a taste-memory!
But I have to say that my favorite use of the peach is in a cobbler. Not a fancy, sugary-topped one … just my Mom’s cuppa-cuppa-cuppa cobbler. (Works for blackberries, too)
All 3 are great representatives of Atlanta; however, my vote goes to Kevin. His creativity is especially satisfying. We have eaten at WFG many times, and it has really improved since Kevin got there. Wine pairings are fun with his dishes also. Our favorite restaurant in Atlanta.
My vote is for Chef Kevin at Woodfire. He is inventive, creative and just plain awe-inspiring in the kitchen. His pickled beets the other night were a surprising and amazing explosion of flavor and his soups are to die for — so I just keep going back for more!
I agree with Rodney…3 ATL boys cookin’ it up….I like our chances. Can’t wait, but I will say I really like Kevin’s BBQ this past 4th. He is amazing with what he can do with a pig. Nice to know that his must haves to have on hand is smoked pork…who knew
You sound so proud of yourself for breaking the confidence of whoever told you. This was common knowledge inside the restaurant community but we waited for the announcement. It’s not at all surprising that you and Foodie buddha were the two who decided not to play along.
Just sayin: Breaking news is part of what we do. I’m aware I didn’t know anything more than what folks in the restaurant industry knew, but I don’t work in that industry anymore. Foodie Buddha did a great job getting this out to those who aren’t privy to the inside info.
The link to Open Hand Atlanta. the beneficiary, should be http://www.projectopenhand.org which takes you to the Atlanta organization. The current link takes you to the San Francisco organization. Great idea!
There are probably a great deal of places one might prefer to go. But, if you are downtown, and hungry, the BBQ Works at Underground has surprisingly good veggies The line can be long, but the wait is worth it. The Collards are heavenly. The meats . . well this is a veggie thing.
Sounds delicious – although WAY too far out for me. The name is funny, though. “Dutch monkey doughnuts” sounds like a substitute expletive you’d use if you did something painful within earshot of little kids.
Recently ate at Cakes & Ale in City of Decatur. Food, especially the fresh organic vegetables, was creatively prepared and delicious. My first tasting of a fresh olive was a revelation!
John Boys (Canton Hwy, Marietta). Buffet; Country cooking; Fried and baked meats; lots of vegetables; soup; breads; desserts. And all for $7.00 (don’t forget to tip well – the service is excellent)
Five Guys-best burger of any chain. Used to love Popeye’s chicken strips till they got rid of the Mardi Gras sauce…Big Mistake. The Varsity is one of those places that has a lot of nostalgia built in….if you didn’t grow up with it, you probably won’t “get” it….
I’ve been living in the sticks (my closest Wally World is 35 miles away) in Washington State for the past 7 years. I really miss the Varsity and Chick-Fil-A!!!
When a “food critic” says The Varsity is one of their favorite places, forever more they are not considered a believable critic on ANY food any place, in my opinion. It would be one thing to just describe the absolutely horrible “food” (is it really food?) but in order to get that abysmal atrociousness, one must endure by far the most surly and obnoxious service in town. No thanks.
the best fast food today is bought at a grocery store and thawed in your microwave. fast food at a restaurant has degenerated into tasteless and greasy crap.
an option is go to a made to order fast food restaurant such as Zaxby’s, Mo’s, etc for the best taste.
Chipotle is the only one on your list that I will eat at – it beats the pants off Willy’s or Moe’s. Each time I have eaten at Moe’s the rice has been undercooked and the guac and other ingredients were way past their prime when they went onto my burrito.
The Varsity is disgusting and really overpriced. I don’t understand the appeal and seriously doubt that very many people who have eaten there actually like it. Its too bad there are no In-and-Out burgers on this side of the country – I bet it would be a big hit here as fast food seems to be very popular down here.
Burgers – I used to think In N Out was the best until 5 Guys came to Atlanta.
Fries – The shoe string fries at Steak N Shake are the best
Chipotle and Qdoba are so much better than Moe’s and Willy’s
Nothing beats Chick-Fil-A for their food and service.
Funny thing-got together with friends and all wanted to go to Eno since two of them had yet to experience Chef Eli’s food. Well, as usual, he did not disappoint. EVERY single item that we ordered was creative,interesting and delicious. This boy can cook, and we all left full and very satisfied. I can’t wait for Aug.26th. It’s going to be quite a ride. All three are superb samples of what Atlanta is turning into foodwise. They are a group to be recond with, but I’m pulling for Chef Eli.
[...] To many of us, summer means a bevy of fresh produce. It’s a bonanza of cantaloupe, watermelon, peaches, berries, cherries, okra, summer squash, beans and tomatoes. And for some Southerners, that last juicy beauty stars in a simple delicacy that is a highlight of the season. Check out this great Southern summertime treat that our food blogger John Kessler discovered in recent days. For those who’d rather let someone else prepare summer’s bounty, take a look at dining critic Meridith Ford Goldman’s list of five restaurants with great seasonal veggies. [...]
*mg* – John Boys? That place is disgusting! Yeah, it’s great if you want cheap, mass produced, institutional quality canned vegetables. For that, I’ll go to Picadilly!
C’mon guys! Are we taking this recycling thing too extreme? I personally juggle my oranges to the checkout! Ok, I do concede that there needs to be a recyclable solution to these bags but $7.50 for three bags? BTW, for those who do their due diligence by using canvas bags – remember to WASH THEM occasionally! I wash them at least once a week with bleach.
I would love to see a review for “Uptown Cafe” located in historic Lawrenceville. It’s a mediteranean restaurant. Seating is VERY limited. I would suggest going for lunch on Saturday (menu is the same all day).
May Macs, for vegetables? Are you kidding? They gave up all their nutrients after the first 2 hours of cooking. Then the final 3 hours just cooks in enough fat and salt to put them in the same nutritional category as fast food.
Yes, I second ebwinn’s comments: Quinnie’s in Vista Grove shopping center on LaVista Rd. near Oak Grove Rd. –Traditional Southern soul food style vegetables.
Lov’n It Live (www.loviingitlive.com) in East Pointe, GA is where you’ll find the most comtemporary ideas of food preparation and presentation of tastefully and delectable combinations of Mother Earth’s vegetable and fruit surprises. The creativity and imagination is boundless when considering the adventures available. And with todays’ health conscious connoisseurs spinning the various myths about what’s the best experience and/or encounter around town, I would imagine the adventures provided by Lov’n It Live (raw like you would never believe) would be unmatched. Dare to be adventurous and “Try It” with ample time and patience.
John Boy’s should be closed down!!.. Anyone seeking veggies should seek elsewhere. My mother’s and grandmother’s kitchens service up the best veggie dishes. I know you all wanted to know of a place where the masses could go but honestly I can’t think of one.
Wee, another great season. For me, summer is like peaches season, something I’ve been looking forward to. I like peaches so much and peaches from Georgia is second to none and peach ice cream under a beautiful sunny summer day is the best day of the year, what a bliss.
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“France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.
France has usually been governed by prostitutes.”
—Mark Twain
Q. Did you hear about France’s new weapons contracts?
A. They gave one to Ace Hardware to produce 250,000 wood sticks…they are still looking for a company to produce 250,000 little white flags.
“I don’t know why people are surprised that France won’t help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn’t help us get the Germans out of France!” —Jay Leno
While all this has been very amusing (NOT), I’d suggest that we stick to French food in Atlanta for the topic. Perhaps you guys should start your own blog.
Well in case you haven’t figured it out Ms. Goldman, not too many of us that bleed red, white, and blue want to celebrate ANYTHING French. Your article just tapped into the anti-Franco feelings many of us Americans have. France is an ungrateful, overrated, annoying country. I would celebrate Bastille Day, but I don’t have anything yellow to wear.
HAS FAB not gone out of business already? it’s a dead restaurant that sooner….rather than later will become a casualty of the economy. MF, no one cares about Bastille day.
Ms. Goldman, you HAVE to admit that you at least smiled at some of these!
In all seriousness, France has done more to thumb its nose at the US (particularly militarily) over the course of history, that it’s hard to appreciate anything for which France is good.
Perhaps, Obama will improve relations between France and the US. They have a lot in common. They are both very comfortable bending over for the rest of the world…
So an old British General and an old French General are sitting around swapping stories, and the French General says, “So why you wear ze red coats? Are you not easier to see?”
And the British General answers, “Well, it’s quite ingenious, actually. If I were to get shot, the red blood would not show on my uniform, my troops would not despair, and they would continue on to win both the battle and the war.”
The French General reflects on this and then quickly barks to his aid, “Pierre! Quickly! Go and fetch me my brown pants.”
Perhaps, Obama will improve relations between France and the US. They have a lot in common. They are both very comfortable bending over for the rest of the world…
Sarfdawg, vous avez le cervau d’un sandwich au fromage. Look it up.
How you English say? I unplug my nose in your general direction, you son of a window dresser! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
I really have no idea who these people are who contribute to Zagat’s reviews. I rarely have any crossover with them in terms of opinion. I find commentary from local food bloggers to be much more in line, typically, with what I like in a restaurant. How on earth Zagat’s could overlook Holeman & Finch is beyond me, and I’d put Restaurant Eugene ahead of Bacchanalia any day.
FAB is my favorite place for french food in Atlanta, though it’s too pricey for me to visit it often. I also like Douceur De France in Marietta for french breakfast and lunch and, though it isn’t really a french restaurant, Cafe Intermezzo on Peachtree makes some great crepes.
Also, Peasant Bistro downtown has a french slant to its menu and I have enjoyed most everything I’ve had there.
Isn’t Trois closed?
I am of french descent and my wife and I are going to Paris later this year — my first visit. I’m excited. It’ll be difficult for me to resist planning the entire trip around restaurant visits.
Ted’s Montana Grill??? Really? It’s been a couple of years since I was last there but I recall the meat being a little gristly and way too thin to make much of a meal. It all tasted like pre-cut, vacum sealed in the marinade, lower end chain fare. I would have given Ted’s 2 out of 5 at best and I’m a pretty low-brow kinda guy.
I’m with Meredith. I came here to find suggestions for French restaurants and found instead a series of rants against the French.
Thanks, Darin, for some useful information. And have a great trip to France. We’ve been several times and have had wonderful experiences there on every trip. We were in Provence on September 11, 2001, and the French were wonderful to us and to all the Americans there on that terrible day.
Zagat to me is nothing more than a guide for lazy tourist that don’t desire to do any research. However, I find other sites like Trip Advisor,and Yelp, offer more current information about local fare. Of course, Kudos to our favorite local restaurant critic here who also steers us in down the right dining path.
I hate using Zagats due the the “poor” use of “quotations” and the “Illegible” “reviews” by people who don’t “know” corporate “food” from fresh food. “Many” other sources are “available” without “reading” through the “torturous” “reviews” with all the lame “quotes” and no “substance”.
I mean Maggiano’s? Come on Antica Posta, di Paolo, La Grotta. No reviews are ever needed for chains after the first one – or the new laminated menu comes in from the home office.
I dine out most every night and have had the opportunity to meet many chefs and restaurant owners, while enjoying their food and service. To omit Holeman & Finch and many others is a crime. Ford Fry’s JCT Kitchen is a modern example of casual, elegant cuisine. The inclusion of Ted’s, Maggiano’s, and Carrabba’s is negligent at best. This extends the declining credibility of Zagat’s. I can eat Carrabba’s in Macon or Jacksonville; it has a profitable, yet uninventive, suburban model. Ask your concierge, not Zagat’s, for a recommendation.
Atlanta Native: You are totally “cracking” me up — the quotations drive me crazy, too. They’re more annoying than reading the menu at the French Laundry. And thanks, Tyree!
Seems to me that the Zagat guide is being overrun with the Web 2.0 crowd that thinks that their opinions, no matter how inane, are of immense value. Since Zagat requires reviewers to have actually eaten in the restaurants, you don’t get the balance that you see in some “Best Of” lists, where people know that Bones is fantastic even if they’ve never actually eaten there.
It also gets into expectations – if someone gives a 30 to an unusally good meal at Maggiano’s, is it even physically possible for La Grotta to impress them as much?
The opposite end of this phenomenon is in the new Travel and Leisure magazine reviews of the best hotels – one or two raving reviews of a tiny B&B or a safari camp in Kenya and they push bigger, established, more accessible places off the list.
Obviously a few francophobes found an outlet for their venting – these jokes got pretty worn out in 2003, when France was trying to tell us that invading Iraq was a bad idea….(oops!) These rubes always forget that we were only able to win the Revolution with French help – and France was the first to offer help with the invasion of Afghanistan (the war that made sense, unlike Iraq), where French soldiers are still fighting (and occasionally dying).
Now, to get back on topic, you’ve listed the best French places in town (FAB, Trois, Atmosphere, Anis) except Joel, which I would rate the best. FAB is doing great business whenevr I go, so no, I think it will not be closing anytime soon. Babette’s is excellent, but I don’t think of it as primarily French.
Ok, I went to the link in the article (embarrassed look on my face) and there is no ration presented for the alcohol. Does any one know what percentage to go with?
Atlanta Native: Are you sure? I just dbl checked and the recipes all call for a specific amount of alcohol (1 and 1/2 cups for the Bellini pops and 2 TBSP of citron vodka for the lemon cream pops).
You know, there was a time when I really did pay attention to Zagat’s but ever since this whole Internet thing became so well-populated with places to read about ATL restaurants, such as this blog, I really don’t even bother to look at it anymore. Much more reliable information comes from reading local critics and the reviews on places like Yelp.
I just went to the Zagat’s site and saw that Holeman & Finch did not make any of their ‘top’ lists. H&F is one of my top 5 fave restaurants in the city and it’s excellence is pretty well agreed upon by locals. My current #1 spot is Social downtown and that restaurant didn’t even have an entry of any kind on the Zagat site. Bizarre.
These Zagats and Wall Street Journal selections make me laugh. They are junk. All the hype of the Greasy burger off memorial drive that is awarded Americas best. Best what? Best place you wouldn’t want to eat without a tetnus shot. Laughable hipsters trying to be cool. Food reviews are always about connections and favors and are never to be taken seriously. Someone always has an agenda personal or professional. Zagats is to restuarant reviews what Elanor Ringel Gillespie is to movie reviews.To be ignored at all times.
“Rachel” and “Jake” – you have the whole internet available to spew out your juvenile and inappropriate comments. Find a better forum for your unwanted dreck.
As far as Zagat is concerned, they obviously no longer take their mission seriously. Anyone that would list Carraba’s as belonging in the top 50 restaurants of any city with a population over 20,000 cannot possibly employ anyone with the title of Editor, let alone Critic. Holeman and Finch is an unforgiveable omission, and I’m sure that many other notable dining spots were overlooked as well.
Elanor Ringel Gillespie’s reviews are helpful. You just need to decode them. If she gives an F it is a B. If she gives a D it is an A. If she gives a B it is an F. If she gives a A it is a D. If she gives it a C, she didn’t actually watch the movie.
Why would you not wash them as often? Could true paper plates not be composted? I’m all for being a little “greener” but ONLY if it really is logical and this doesn’t seem to be IMHO.
You’re correct Stan, paper plates are also biodegradable but the idea here is that you can reuse them (albeit not many times) and they require less energy, resources, and chemicals to construct versus paper or plastic plates. The “less energy” is the real kicker here, I think. Besides, don’t they look awesome?
I don’t think that Joel was doing anything special yesterday, though (I thought about it as I drove up 75 last night). For anyone that thought Joel was too expensive to enjoy, they have revamped the menu Bistro-style, and they have specials weekday nights.
For the francophiles, I would suggest going to Star Provisions and getting Delice de Pommard, a triple creme goat cheese wrapped in red-wine soaked mustard husks. At about $18 for 7 oz, it is expensive, but it is the best cheese I’ve ever had. One warning, though — Star did not have it there a few weeks ago.
RK: thanks for the tip on Joel. I just took a look at their lunch menu online and saw that they do have some nicely-priced items that look interesting.
On the down side, I also peeked at the bar menu and saw a disturbing sight that is too common in fine dining places — crazy beer prices. $7 for a bottle of Amstel Light? There are stores in town where you can buy a six pack of it for less. Just a glass of tap water for me, please.
It would be wonderful if they could incorporate a healthy dark chocolate like Xocai into the product line. Xocai has a healthy cold processed dark chocolate that tastes great and is great for you. No added refined sugar! For more information try out lovemyxocai.com and take the tour.
I use these actually (I featured them on my blog as well) and think the idea is that what they are made of is a “byproduct” of the growth process of a bamboo plant (the sheath), and culling it doesn’t harm the plant, so it’s COMPLETELY sustainable, as opposed to paper that’s ordinarily used. There are times disposables are necessary, or at least preferred, so these are a good option, and I agree, they look good. I personally use them when I entertain outdoors (mainly beach picnics) and don’t want to lug dirty dishes home (and I don’t usually reuse these). Ordinary paper plates don’t look special enough so these fill the bill perfectly. I do agree with the poster that said when at home, just use real plates… why use disposable?
Honey bees are endangered these days due to some disease aren’t they? It’s great when someone has a hobby they really enjoy that just happens to be productive and good for the environment.
uh…Rachel, honeybees pollinate about a third of the food we eat. and it’s important that chefs (and others) start playing a role in farming them. We are losing huge numbers to Colony Collapse Disorder. So unless you want to rely on cheetos and twinkies out of the vending machine you might want to perk up. Just a thought.
for those that don’t want to drive to Cumming (I’m an ITPer) you should check out Sublime on 10th street near Northside Dr. They have some unique (and awesome) creations.
I’m starting to think we could start a very productive eugenics effort based on reader postings about some of these AJC stories. Could users be forced to post their GPS coordinates instead of their email addresses?
Yes, and our honey bee population is also threatened by varroa mites, a pesty killer that was first discovered in the US in Florida back in the 1980s. We need all the bees we can get. I started a hive this spring, and it is a wonder. The bees are so docile and productive. Like chef Gerstenecker, I’m hoping to get at least 10 pounds — maybe 20 — of honey by the end of the summer. If you want to know more about keeping bees in the Atlanta area, you couldn’t meet a better group of people than the members of MABA (Metro Atlanta Beekeepers Association). Go to http://www.metroatlantabeekeepers.org for more info.
My wife and I stayed at the Four Seasons for our wedding night and have stayed and visited there several times since. It is a wonderful place with an exceptional staff and is truly an asset to Atlanta.
Cafe Circa in the old 4th ward. Just met Chef Andre who just joined them. He came from rathbuns, nava and a few other fav spots around town. New menu is amazing!! just love it!!
Great to hear and see food people keeping bees. One out of four bits of food that we eat is directly related to honey bees. Honey Bees are in real danger from mites and hive collapse disorder. We need more Urban Bee keepers and rural bee keepers.
My wife and I along with our two girls, ages 9 and 11, started keeping bees this spring. Urban bee keeping is going on more than the average person knows and is needed for local plant health and to support a falling – failing honey bee population.
We keep our bees in the Cincinnati area in a suburb – back yard. Yes it is safe and the bees are doing great and so are the people – no stings reported but lots of blooming flowers and gardens all around our house.
[...] out like the three dishes we sampled, it means that there is no single reason to visit. As noted in other reports, the menu seems a touch Tuscan and touch contemporary American. In the middle, it’s muddled [...]
I just tried clicking on the link to vote and it told me that it was an invalid link until I removed the extra spaces at the end of the URL – just a heads up in case anybody else has similar problems
Oh come on — why did you have to post that pic of the pupusas at Rincon? I love those things. Now there’s no way I’m going to eat the Lean Cuisine I brought to work with me. I’ll end up being bad again and going to Buford Highway for the greasy goodness (the cabbage salad stuff counters the oily pupusas well).
Me and two other co workers went yesterday and had a great time! The short ribs were to die for, and the chef’s burger was out of this world. We felt very attended to, and the price was reasonable. Can’t wait to go again…next time dinner and dancing.
My husband and I have been fans of Chef Brett since his days at Aria. We have eaten there weekly for 5 years now. We went to Joia the other evening because we love his cooking. The atmosphere although a little bright compared to Aria was still very tasteful. My husband enjoyed the short ribs while I ate the filet. The filet was fantastic. I also had Chef Brett’s signature salad the dressing was too die for. If you are going to out for a nice evening I would recommend Joia.
I can’t wait for this place to get busy on a weekend night! I was told a DJ was going to be brought in this weekend…I’m ready to party while enjoying some yummy food! The bar is awesome, and the food is the bomb!
Great to see folks are beginning to keep bees in their back yards and roof tops too. I have four hives in my yard in Bisbee Arizona and recently have tired of taking the honey but keep ‘em for pollination and just for the joy of having them around. Even Obama has some in the garden area of the Casa Blanca. Everyone should have a hive to two.
in asia, the bamboo materials are entered almost all family. most of the home would have the bamboo home decor , bamboo eating utilities, bamboo furniture etc. in japan, there is a chain store called natural kitchen where sell mainly the bamboo made kitchen utilities too. and people highly welcome of it, since in asia, people use the chopstick, and the chopstick are made with bamboo too.
if you want to dine OTP, check out Gwinnett Restaurant Week – July 27-30, 2009 – $21.21 plus tax for three course meal – 16 great restaurants including Sugo, Aqua Terra Bistro, SAB Bistro, Sperata, Dominick’s, The Melting Pot, Picasso Cafe Wine Bar, Park Cafe, The Thorn Tree, Kurt’s and many others! http://www.gcvb.org/restaurantweek
I hope they do better than my experience last year – won’t name the place (although it’s a small chain that’s recently closed locations in other cities). They treated us like second-class citizens for even wanting to LOOK at the Restaurant Week menu. The person I was with ordered from the regular menu and we were still shown disdain.
But in January, I went to Restaurant Week participants in New York that were world-famous and neither the service nor the portions were diminished.
Maybe we “don’t care how they do it up north,” but when a good Arby’s has better service than a white-tablecloth restaurant, we ought to consider starting…
Seems like I remember partaking when it was $20.02, $20.03, and that included tax… then it jumped up 25, 26…
Frankly, it’s not that great a deal, and I had pretty substandard meal at one place, that only offered a pasta, a pork (I don’t eat pork), and a chicken option. I got the chicken, which was dry and dusty.
Actually had a really good meal for RW about 5 years ago at Polaris, top of the Hyatt.
I have never had (or heard of) fried okra patties but they do sound good! I am originally from southwest Georgia and we toss okra slices in cornmeal and fry them up in an iron skillet!
Oh and 6 feet under has great fried okra. They fry it whole (or in half) and it’s so good.
I grew up outside of Athens and my family always seasoned the okra with some type of season salt, dipped it in a milk and egg liquid, and then tossed it in self rising flour instead of cornmeal. To top it off, soak the okra with Texas Pete!
Both plus three more ways! I’m from South Georgia and my mom makes it just like you do into patties but omits the cornmeal and makes a very thin batter of flour and water only. I’m 45 and when I go home she usually has a platter waiting for me as it is one of my favorite Southern dishes! One grandmother used the ALWAYS delicious slice, salt, LIGHTLY dust in cornmeal and skillet fry method. The other sliced the okra and just salted it and cooked it in a skillet on low for quite a while in a little bacon grease – don’t overstir if you try this. Of course, it is FABULOUS this way! Finally, my aunt cuts just the top tip off so the pod remains ’sealed’. She then puts it in a nonstick skillet with just barely enough water to cover the bottom of the pan. Then she lightly salts and peppers it, and cooks it covered (peek as little as possible – on a very low temperature until it has JUST turned from bright green to a darker green – very healthy, no fat, and delicious as well! Finally, we sometimes put the pods on top of field peas when we cook those. I LOVE all these ways and would definitely ask for one (or more!) at my last meal!
Me hate okra, Im an offical Okra hater.. Im from south GA and my family ate Okra like it was the best thing in the world,,,Me and my brother oblviously thought different,, I hate Okra so much that I became a professional at misdirection,, I would tell everyone to look over there while I scraped the filth off my plate… Fried, boiled, steamed, chopped up, covered in whatever sauce that i could find, resturants best dish,, it doesn’t matter.. Its nasty!! yuck, pfffff,,eww… Sorry guys I was forced to eat it as a kid, had a flash back!
The best is sliced thin – only 1/4″, then salt & peppered & tossed in a little cornmeal. Then, fry it in Crisco. The secret is making sure the shortening is hot enough so the okra dances on top. It gets real crispy this way and never greasy. Wouldn’t it be great if the movie theaters sold fried okra instead of popcorn!? I used to work with a woman who did make patties, though and hers were delicious. I never was able to replicate it, though. Any clues?
Born and raised here. Never had heard of the patty method for okra, sounds good though. We slice the top off the pods, slice the pod in thin slices and cook in an iron skillet or non-stick skillet with Canola oil oover moderately high heat, so it doesn’t saok up the oil. After frying salt lightly to taste.
Believe it or not, the best in town is the Earl in East Atlanta. Best I ever had. Runners up are Matthews Cafeteria in tucker, 6 Feet Under, and Marlows (fried whole).
Put the Okra in a bag with flour and coat; heat crisco in pan and let okra fry in the that. Don’t mess with it too much, let it brown on both sides. NO PATTIES.
Central Florida native (family originally from South Georgia.) Simply dredged in flour, lightly salted and fried in a cast iron skillet. Favorite veggie plate always has fried okra, along with tomato gravy & white rice, cream-style corn, baby lima beans, yellow squash and cornbread…. YUM!! Love okra… we used to can Okra & Tomatoes in the summer to eat on cold winter nights
I’m all about trying the patty-method. That’s new to me but it seems like something I might like plus, you can really load a patty down with other flavors if you want (as opposed to the little 3/4 inch okra nuggets most folks are used to).
I’m betting something Indian-ey would be good mixed up in there …
I gotta say – I’ve not been this excited about a film since Star Trek a few months ago. From what I’ve seen, Meryl Streep is a dead-on ringer for Miss Julia.
Meridith, how about reviewing the reopened 57th Figher Group next to PDK? Heard that it reopened and hoping that they continue the tradition of serving great beer-cheese soup and escargot. They also used to serve a great prime rib.
Never heard of okra patties and while they don’t sound bad seem like a waste of effort when “tossed” (which I never heard of either until this entry) is so good.
If you want to fry some cornmeal, make hoe cakes/cornbread patties to serve with the okra. And while fried is good, so is boiled and sauteed (blackened, really) in a skillet with a little cajun seasoning. Oh, and okra with tomatoes, I could go on and on…yum.
Fried okra-cut both ends of the okra and slice it across the length of the okra.Mix the sliced okra with cornmeal and flour and add a little water to make a batter.mix in a bowl and add little salt and pett pepper.deep fry like fish therefore both sides will be cooked evenly.Enjoy
My grandmother and mother alwyays sliced it up, tossed it and fried it up in a skillet. Like a few that have already posted, I have never heard of or seen an okra patty. I love okra, but have not lived in GA since 1989 after I joined the military. I could occasionally get some in Maryland, but only when it bruised up real bad. Now that I live in Colorado it is a little hard to find in the market. Buying it frozen just doesn’t cut it, but it helps me get by.
Howard, I agree with your method and I fry them the exact same way. But when I want a good fried okra in a meal, Annie Mae’s On Thornton Road just past Six Flags makes “Big Ma” proud.
Just discovered this week that the best way to do it is to fry the whole spears, including a little stem at the end to use as a handle. Even my Yankee wife liked it that way.
I love okra….Anyway but raw! I love patties, sliced or whole… fried with mixture of cornmeal + flour, s/p. Dip in egg yolk/milk combo. I have even put a bit of cayenne into flour/meal mix for some kick… Great as appetizer with remoulade sauce too. Fry and drain on paper bag or paper towels. Yummy! I love it in vegetable soup and gumbo in the fall and winter and I adore pickled okra , hot or mild. They make a great garnish for a Bloody Mary! From the list of postings, it appears that most responding really like it…the others obviously have had a bad experience..and it’s ok for them not to like it…leaves more for the rest of us.
Yes, Church’s okra is very good. I buy a Family box…bring it home, place warm on paper towels to remove some of grease… then transfer to plain cookie sheet… put in freezer uncovered until frozen. When frozen, pour into zip lock bag or freezer container…and heat in oven…without all the frying mess. I do the same when I set up fryer on outside on my patio and make lots to freeze for later.
SmokeJacks in Alpharetta also has great fried okra and fried dill pickles. It’s worth the drive for me from Marietta!
I thought I had my meal planned tonight…now I’m adding okra to the menu! Okra is also a beautiful plant to grow..but “sticky” to pick.
Another variation is grilled okra. I mix it with other veggies (squash, eggplant, mushrooms, onions), add a bit of olive oil and salt and put it on the grill. Delicious
Love me some okra. About anyway is good to me. Fresh Frozen is good and is already battered and ready to fry. I like the idea of buying at church’s and freezing it.
WHAT in the world is an okra patty? How do you make it? Born and bred Southern gal right here, and mom always lightly salted it, tossed it in corn meal and fried it in the electric skillet. (I use a cast iron skillet!)
Meredith, I love to make homemade pickles..I have made dill pickles, bread and butter, sweet pickles and chow chow..I have also pickled green tomatoes…Yummy…I have a recipe for cinnamon cucumber pickles, I just haven’t tried to make them yet..
Atl Starter, if you want to try chow chow, please don’t buy it anywhere except at a roadside stand..This way you know it’s homemade..To me, this is the best kind..Hot chow chow..Goes great with dried beans (if you like them)…
I’ve been getting almost daily e-mails (with pictures!) from my Mom (in south Georgia) of the “puttin up”. Mainly corn and peas so far, and as soon as her grapes come in, jelly.
It’s a multi-generational effort this year … my Grandma, Mom, Sister and her kids (they really don’t help but they’re there) … cousins, in-laws, etc.
“Puttin up” may not be that mysterious, but it sure is laborious when you get out at 6:30am and break corn or pick peas then spend most of the day preparing them for the freezer! I remember those summer days quite well …
But if you all want to talk FUN, let’s revisit this topic around Thanksgiving for the syrup-makings. Basically, “puttin up” sugar-cane syrup. THAT’s a hoot to do.
Okra is great grilled. Buy smallish pods, not to big. Toss with a little oil, salt, pepper, that’s it. Grill it for a few minutes, turning every minute or so.
What in the Sam Hill – okra patties???? So I’m picturing a fried patty that consists of a handful of sliced okra and looks like a cookie or fried green tomato slice? If it contains okra and is fried, I’m sure it doesn’t suck, but I think I’ll stick with the toss and fry method myself.
Meredith:
You probably won’t visit the subject again right away, but when you do, check out the incredibly light-fried version at Watershed in Decatur. Unique in my experience.
To dress in your best Garcia garb is not to wear faux hippie regalia. Pay attention to the photo. Dark, solid color t-shirts, dark slacks (or sweat-pants, the man was not a fashionista) and comfy oxfords were Mr. Garcia’s wardrobe choices.
Otherwise, thanks for the heads-up!
Fried okra was one of my favorites,I tried it grilled,WOW my new favorite.Ladder it on 2 wooden skewers brush with olive oil,grill til it starts to slide on skewers,salt and eat while hot
Good call David. And I think what the ‘author’ probably meant to say was ‘thanks for the insight, next time I’ll look at the picture before using worn-out cliches.’
I disagree about Garcia being “no fashionista” – I have a closet full of Garcia ties that never fail to get a positive comment every time I wear one. I highly recommend picking one or two up for the special occasion.
( ( ( ( noise ) ) ) ) in and out, my balcony is the fire escape two columns in view eye(s) open vcu thinking about a country song this ain’t love shack it’s my tool shed all about love turnin’ to hate verse one, what are we fighting for, don’t know don’t giva a d…….this ain’t vietnam the enemy is here on my father’s land…… new song more later……
verse two
Jesus said
” it’s not what goes in the mouth that defilieth man but what comes out of his mouth ”
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Jerry, we still miss you, brother.
Thanks for the update, Meredith; sounds like it should be a fun gig.
Maybe I’ll bring my wife from Chino & one from Cherokee.
When Jerry died, all those people had to get a job and shower thank god. Also if you were not alive for the DEAD, skip the tie dies kiddies. I second Cobain
Actually, it seems that your “snappy team of designers” is simply trying to do something different without consideration of utility. The stars still come out as boxes on many machines. You’ve forgotten that function should dictate form, not the other way around. But what do I know?
Yes, I have to agree. In all the publications I’ve seen (including this one), the hollow stars indicate the total star rating possible, and the black stars indicate how many stars have been assigned. Why do things differently now? I think the designers are being stubborn and ultimately unhelpful to readers by not changing this back around. Even though there’s a ratings guide at the bottom of the post for clarification, the immediate impression is the one that counts. And the immediate impression on that Abattoir review is “One Star.” Not helpful. Please strongly consider changing it back. Thanks.
Well said, Alex. At least you can see the stars! But, yes, if the stars appear as described it makes no sense whatsoever. White stars on a white background indicate total number possible. Why don’t the designers reverse all the sentences in a given story, since many people read from the bottom and scroll up?
Thanks for the mention Meredith…While I’ve certainly been entertained by today’s barrage of comments…I would like to remind everyone that my inspiration for continuing with this annual dinner is not to exploit Jerry’s fashion prowess (or lack thereof), but to celebrate the music and the spirit of community in which Jerry was certainly a pioneer. Especially in these times of turbulence and struggle, the many people who will join us on August 5th & 6th will be able to rejoice in the fact that they will be able to leave their anxieties and worries in the car and become a part of something that is bigger than themselves; for at least a few hours.
PS – “Dead HTR” – Incidently, while I have indeed been a fan of the Dead and Jerry for some 15 years, I have remained employeed throughout this entire tenure and have showered at least once a day.
PPS – David C – please stop by the restaurant this weekend for a mind eraser, we should have some Dead playing; perhaps the tunes will aid in relaxing you!
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This is an annual favorite for me, regardless of the price increase. I go to FAB downtown and enjoy their skate wing, which is typically about $22, so it’s a great deal. I’m checking out BLTSteak this year as well.
These restaurants need the business so I doubt you will get much attitude this time around. Still, I would like to see what people think after this year’s version has run its course.
Wahoo in Decatur has the nicest outdoor dining. It’s like eating in a garden. The food is great AND they don’t allow smoking outdoors either. It’s the BEST!
Beat an egg, drop in cut okra and stir until coated (adding a little more okra until all the egg is used but all the okra is coated). Then dredge with flour and deep fry- we use our fish cooker. You can add salt to the flour or to the cooked okra. It’s a departure from Mama’s iron skillet and cornmeal method but makes a nice crunchy crust. We do a bushel and freeze the cooked okra on pizza pans, then bag it up, into the freezer and we’ve got good eats for the winter.
And then there’s pickled okra, okra/tomatoes/corn, okra cooked with field peas, okra & tomatoes over rice. . . I’d go on but now I’m hungry!
I am so sick of racial wars. I am a african american and I honestly have to admit that everyone has a point here. Yes, there are times when I am shame at some of the things that “we” do but I am equally ashamed at white americans that think every problem in society should be blamed on blacks and non-whites. You commit violent crime too, crimes that are down played, covered up and don’t make the news a lot of times.
As an African American, the one thing I would love for every white person to understand is the crimes that you see on the evening news where there are a rash of crimes being commited by young black boys is not just a ” black problem.” Regardless of what you think, the fact that we are all connected to one another here on this earth. Criminals are not born, they are created in our society. I grew up poor also and I’ve never robbed, stolen, or committed a violent crime. I am blessed to have had positive role models and people who cared about me in my life. So, so many are not as fortunate. Stop harping on the “result” of the problem and start becoming the solution. Young black boys between the ages of 6 – 11 are hungry for guidance and positive male role models that are missing from their lives. Become a big brother or big sister, get to know a poor, fatherless young black boy and you will understand that they are not born criminals they are young boys who have been failed by everyone. The streets will without a doubt become his role model. This is not a “black problem” this affects everyone in our communities. Don’t wait for it to be your problem after you’ve been car jacked by a 13 yr old boy. We are all responsible whether directly or indirectly for what goes on in our own communities.
Wow. M.F. you must be running out of ideas for a blog. Is the next story about landscape company owners buying cases of Vienna Sausages and Saltines for lunch for their crews, so they won’t starve to death?
About 5-7 years ago there was a place in Decatur near the square called Raleigh’s BBQ & blues. They served grilled okra, cooked over wood coals, I think. Small pods were tossed with a little olive oil and salt before giving them a slight char on the grill. Surprised me, as I found it quite tasty, and I am mainly a fried okra kind of guy. I have done it at home on my grill with good results. I see a few others have recommended grilled okra. Others should try it and I wish another restaurant would offer it, as it could be a distinquishing item to draw new customers. Raleigh’s closed not long after I found it.
Also have taken some of the vacuum fried okra chips from the Fresh Market stores to parties where they were a big hit.
LOL … like I said: Stubborn. Look at the Abattoir page now. The four stars are still hollow, and the “out of a possible five” fifth star is a little asterisk! Oh, well, at least the designers’ eye-rolling bullheadedness is generating additional clicks for the review, right?
I guess I haven’t noticed wings at the Roswell Rd. location because I don’t eat wings. I do, however, manage to empty a plate of Pig N Chik’s pulled pork about once a week.
Not to mention the crinkle cut french fries … fat and meaty and crispy (sounds like someone I know after a day at the beach …). A good friend loves the cole slaw. And the Brunswick stew is (thankfully!) the savory kind, not the sweet kind, and is quite tasty.
I guess I’m a fan … So back on topic, I’m sure the wings are just as good as everything else.
That place is still open, heck I went there, got a half pound, some fries and a shake and it was like 22.00 with tip. I could of gotten a steak somewhere.
Did you try the Windward Parkway location reservoirDAWG? I don’t know anything about Chamblee, but the Windward Parkway location is AWESOME!!! The food is mouth watering, the wings are smokey and delicious — different than any I’ve ever had before. And the owners make you feel like you are at a small town BBQ joint, not lost in an anonymous big city suburb. GIVE WINDWARD PARKWAY PIG-N-CHIC a try and then let’s hear…
Ok, mford. Let me start by saying I cook competitive bbq in the MBN so I am biased. I have been there before and it was better. I had a pulled plate and without the sauce it had no flavor. The pork had no smoke ring or bark to speak of. I also got the small plate and it was $10 with a drink, a little pricey.
Wing Lover, I will. It is near my house. Also, the Chamblee location had wings, but it did not indicate if they were like the one’s described in mford’s article. I’ll let you know.
Mike D, this is a food blog, for topics that interest people who love all things food. Therefore, this topic is completely within the parameters of the scope of the blog. I, and many others, are incredibly intrested in this movement, and find it exciting. So if this blog entry caters to the intended crowd (which it does, what’s the problem? It could be that this is not your thing, which is fine. But please, let us that do enjoy these topics to do so without the insults and derision that seems to be requisite on ajc blogs. (Steps off soapbox)
Please do, rDAWG! Obviously, I am a big fan. I don’t cook competitively, but I could be accused of eating competitively and I can assure you the Windward Pkwy. location is at the absolute top of my list — more people should know about it and go there!!
None of the Pig-n-Chik locations have ever let me down, but the Windward location was a godsend for those of us who live nearby and can’t always make the drive to the other locations for our P-n-C fix!
Seriously, if you haven’t tried this new location, do it.
Everything is amazing, but if it’s your first time, order the ribs.
I grew up in the 40’s and 50’s in Florida so I know about those pea picking days and syrup making days. Oh what memories. I have a big fig tree and getting ready to make some fig preserves. I also have a pear tree fixing to pick them and can some. I live in San Antonio,
TX close to Fredricksburg where they grow peaches. Hoping to get some and make me some pickled peaches. If anyone has a favorite recipe they would like to share I would appreciate it.
While I often times don’t agree with all you say, I still think you should continue to offer up the good and bad. It’s not doing a restaurant any good to cover up the bad here…trust me, there are many other places around town (online and offline) where folks talk about these businesses in sometimes much less flattering detail. As long as comments are not trite, trivial, or mean spirited and stay constructive and fairly mainstream they should be valuable to both the diners and the owners who should always be looking for ways to improve. If you want to be kinder in a down economy, make it a point to go back to these places after 6 months so that you can give them a good review if they’re making good changes.
I think that by giving an honest assessment of a restaurant you are being kind to customer’s wallets during a recession. I’m trying to watch what I spend now more than I ever have before because I am dealing with less income as a result of being furloughed. If you were to dishonestly categorize an iffy restaurant as being great, then I might waste money there that I can’t afford to waste. I rely on restaurant critics to let me know where I can feel comfortable spending my money.
I’m no BBQ expert, but I can say that I go to the Chamblee location about once every couple of weeks for the pulled pork sandwich and I’ve never had a bad one. Some of the sides are better than others (I don’t care for their slaw) and the mac & cheese has had good days and bad days, but the pork has always been great. Also, I really like the sauces they have on the table. I usually mix all of them together on my sandwich.
Where does it end? If you were to grade on a curve as it were, because of the economy, well, I see that being just as dishonest as favoritism would be.
The only change I could see would be to focus on local joints and dives for a while. Recession might be the perfect time to put the $25.00+ per person restos on hiatus and go for less spendy meals. EXAMPLE: I’ve never really seen many professional (not social media) reviews of the various pizza joints around town. I’m sure they’re out there but they certainly aren’t prominent.
If anything i would say during a recession food critics and restaurant critiques are more important. Although it’s just an opinion people are focusing now on money more than ever and eating out less. Therefore when they choose the meal to go out to that one night a week they should expect greatness. There are so many restaurants to choose from so why not be able to choose wisely? Keep up the reviews and people can take it for what it’s worth.
I agree with everyone else. If you sugar coat a review then I may spend my money (that I am trying to ration) on a sub par meal. Not sure if it’s OK ethically, but what about discussing the review with the restaurant before printing? Certainly NOT change any opinions of the restaurant but maybe it would be less damaging in this economy if after you said something negative it was noted that “the GM or owner was aware of this and has plans to make changes to….” instead of just saying “here’s hoping they figure out they have too many things on their menu”.
I read your review and while not glowing, it wouldn’t necessarily keep me from eating there. Additionally, there are many more Atlantans who DON’T use restaurant reviews as a guide for where to eat (how else would Applebee’s stay in business?) Keep doing what you do!
first of all i find it funny that DBA barbecue put a link to your review on their homepage.. at least they are being honest ! but I applaud an honest review, in any economic situation.. i wish i would have read the review before i went and paid $12 for that horrible and little plate of smoked turkey.. but overall the ambiance of the joint is good and it seems like they put a lot of effort and money into it
With H&F out of my rotation, my back-up favorite bakery will be Joli Kobe. I go there regularly already for their excellent croissants and the loaf bread.
For crusty loaf breads I like Breadgarden and Star Provisions.
And another great place to go for pastries is the market on the bottom of Parish. And speaking of pastries, this would be more of a fryer-y than a bakery, but I regularly visit Sublime Doughnuts for their delicious little circular gems.
Barbeque is such a hot button in Atlanta that sometimes I think the AJC (which seems to run a “best in town” opinion every six months) may just be pandering to the fire. There were after all people that thought Sonny’s was tasty.??? Yours is not the first review of this joint and I am sure will not be the last as Atlanta has become a town of food critics. However, I may eat there as I have friends in the area and will make my own judgements at that point. An example in point is a recent visit to Holy Taco.
Nice patio, courteous staff, etc… but the beer was too pricey and the food not that great (I did try the chicken hearts taco, which had no flavor whatsoever and the pescado which was no better). But, we were with friends, the ambience was cordial and a fine time was had by all. I can drive three miles to Buford Hwy and have much better food at a much better price. El Taco Veloz is not particularly a great place for ten people to hang though. So basically, weigh your priorties and take your chances.
Reviews are reviews, but what today’s problems is, that what used to be a a standard 3 month wait to pounce on a recently opened restaurant happens within the first weekend on any number of the foodie blog sites out there…Let the new restaurants open and get established enough to sort through opening issues and let the staff get the food right! If they cant get it right then get on them!!!
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You shouldn’t be grappling with the issue at all. Your responsibility is first & foremost to the reader/consumer. The advertising department is the one tasked with driving traffic to the business, your role is to generate readership by providing information that diners can use to them make good choices on where & how they spend their dining dollars & time. You aren’t going to save a bad restaurant by glossing over their problems but you could definitely put your own usefulness to question by doing so. So please, shoot straight with the readers & let the chips fall where they may.
I can’t imagine what kind of person heeds the advice of a paid food critic.I’ve always found that I’m quite capable of deciding for myself whether a restaurant is good or not.
Keep up the objectivity. Some of your free weekly competitors are basically review for advertising and the reviews are worthless if they are all positive.
Agree with what others have said:
1) now more than ever help the reader spend their scarce dining dollars wisely
2) focus on more casual,lower-priced places vs. fine dining as a help to readers
Good is good, not good is not good. Tell it like it is.
On the subject of BBQ, I see reviews all the time of places that fall short yet I haven’t seen a review of my all-time favorite in years, Old Hickory House. Great BBQ, outstanding Brunswick stew and a fine, friendly wait staff.
hi to everybody, last week i was looking for an atlanta food and dining restaurant because i want to celebrate my anniversary in the best place of Atlanta, i find a warm place, i think the name es versiallo or something like that i definitely recommend that place for a nice dinning
I love Cambodian foods. My friends and I went to eat at Phnom Penh in Tucker last week. The foods and the services were excellent. We will definitely go back.
Agave, Tasty China, Spoon, Alon, Little Bangkok are all staples. Taking you back a few years, I do miss The desert place in VaHi almost on the corner. I think Highland Tap is located there now.
Hello Meridith Ford Goldman,
Brown’s Guides is programming a “Georgia Restaurant Search” that will include all Georgia cities, plus Atlanta restaurants by neighborhood. Do you know of any local, state or regional sites that do a good job of this that can be used as a comparison?
Here are the BG Atlanta neighborhoods: Airport, AtlanticStation, Brookhaven, Buckhead, BufordHwy, CabbageTown, CandlerPark, CheshireBridge, Clairmont, Downtown, EastAtlanta, Edgewood, Emory, GrantPark, LittleFivePoints, Midtown, Old4thWard, Perimeter, PonceyHighland, VirginiaHighland, Westside. Any suggestions?
If you aren’t honest you ruin your own credibility and that of the paper. Be honest and be objective. If a restaurant goes out of business it does it on it’s own accord. I’ve only seen one review help drive a place out of business – a place called Mango’s located in Midtown Promenade and the review was by Cliff Bostick.
DBA’s is good, glad it is in the neighborhood, but I wish they would go take some lessons from the folks a BBQ1 then I would be heaven.
Hi Meredith,
Thanks so much for letting Atlantans know about the Killer Tomato Fest at JCT. Kitchen & Bar. It’s going to be a great day celebrating summer’s bountiful tomato! What a stellar line-up of chefs, farmers and mixologists!
Thanks again,
Pam Blanton
We did go to the Windward location a couple of weekends ago on the recommendation of friends who said it was their favorite (we still stand by Fat Matt’s, a long drive but worth it). When we arrived to pick up our order I was concerned that we were the only ones there, as usually good barbecue is belied by crowds (we happily stand in line at Fat Matt’s). I was assured that this location was busiest at weekday lunch, which is understandable considering it’s tucked away and surrounded by office parks. We spent a good penny for a salad with turkey, and a slab and sides and tried two of the different sauces including the carolina style. My SO is from South Carolina, and that’s her preference.
The ribs were inedible, unless you like pouring a shaker of salt in your mouth. We actually called, not for a refund, but to let the restaurant know that they maybe had a bad batch of ribs on their hands. We were assured there was nothing wrong with the ribs, but after being put on hold (I suspect someone decided to taste and check) we were told that possibly they had been delivered the wrong seasoning from their supplier. They did refund us the cost of the bad slab. The whole meal over all was slightly below mediocre (the turkey had no smokey flavor at all – could have been mystery meat and was terribly drym the salad dressing is not home made), and as I said we couldn’t eat the ribs. I think I’d be afraid to try the wings, I’ll stick with Wild Wing for those, also at Windward, and travel occasionally down to the city for some Fat Matt’s.
1. My money is as important to me as the success of this restaurant is important to its owners. No more, no less. I hate, I despise spending good money or poor efforts: that goes from restaurants to movies to records to anything that costs money.
2. In this age of marketing, where most of the people I know are highly suceptible to good marketing (i.e. G-Force, the Ugly Truth, Funny People), it is extremely helpful to find an honest critic. I don’t have the time, the money, or the calorie deficit to spend on inferior restaurants. Further, let me know of those great deals out there, those hidden gems, those places that exceed expectations.
Why does everyone assume that moms are the ones who get the kids ready for school? I am the only morning person in my home, and I’m the one who wakes up my children, helps them get their clothes and backpacks ready, fixes lunch for my 10 year-old (usually PB&J on whole wheat, yogurt, fruit, pretzels, cookie and skim milk), and gets them to the bus. Don’t assume that dads aren’t involved in their children’s education. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
Paul, you sound like a coworker of mine..His wife leaves for work a couple of hours beofre him, so he’s the one that does everything you do..I think he is an awesome man and you most likely are too..
Paul,
Thanks for doing your job as a father/parent. Now get rid of the slight chip on your shoulder about it and just be happy that you have kids to make lunch for.
Hi Becky, still thinking about it, and want to do it. I’ve had to put it on hold while I figure out my next source of income, I think I shared already that I’m losing my job within a years time. Plus my wife has been sick a couple of times lately that required my immediate attention.
Pure Taqueria is my favorite restaurant in Atlanta. Great food, drinks and atmosphere. They have awesome tacos (on corn tortillas) and white sangria! The only problem? The crowd. It takes a while to get sat and then people are bumping into you.
Stan, yes you had mentioned it, sorry to hear that it is still hapening..Hope you do find something before to long.. I’ll still keep you and your wife in my thoughts..
I think this was also mentioned, but here I go again..What about trying out for the FNW show for the next Food Network Star? Ether way, best of luck to you…
LOL… My wife and I talked about that as we watched this season NFNS. I do NOT have what it takes to do TV…I have the perfect face for radio. lol. I also get a lot of pleasure from seeing people enjoy the food I prepare so TV doesn’t work on that level either.
Stan, I don’t know your background, but I taught at J & W for close to seven years — let me know if you have questions or would like more info about what C-school is like. I can put you in touch with some folks … you can email me at mford@ajc.com
I would like to add that Barry does not just cook for celebrities. He is also great for a one time dinner party. He hosted an event at my house and was amazing. From supplies to clean-up Barry is always prepared!
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Julia child’s enthusiasm for what she did was indeed infectious. She was part of my life as I grew up. You just could not beat her spirit with the way she closed every show “This is Julia Child — Bon Apetit!!!” I can’t wait to see Meryl Streep bring her talents to this portrayal.
From what I’ve seen so far, Meryl Streep is just about as spot-on for JC as anyone could be, without delving into a caricature. But I agree – can’t wait to see it. She was always kinda like that old Aunt that everyone has – brassy, funny, but can make a mean cake.
Thanks for the recomendation on the smoked wings. We got some last weekend and they were the best wings I have ever had. We got them plain and they had a really unique smokey flavor. Glad to find them before football season.
Very interesting read, thanks. I didn’t previously know about that incredible disparity between the amounts of water used for livestock and vegetables.
I’ll admit that the brief thought of giving up beef for the sake of the environment made my hanger-steak-loving heart sink, but I could definitely see myself eat less of it and eating more fish for protein.
I think one more potential plus to the locavore movement is in the way that it helps preserve traditions of locally grown and produced foods, from the varieties of fresh summer peas to products like mayhaw jelly and sorgham syrup.
Besides the drinking on the Sabbath part, this looks like a super-fun event! Will the chefs be autographing their dishes?
What’s up with Fred Brown’s comment? It has nothing to do with Killer Tomatoes! It’s like all he wants to do is promote his own guide?
That’s not cool. Have a blessed day! Can’t wait to see y’all at the Killer Tomatoe Festival!
I don’t, but I have a sister that can hold her own with anyone on a real homemade bananna pudding..This is our dish of choice for her to bring to all family gatherings..SHe makes it from scratch, never uses a pudding mix…
I’m like Becky – I don’t make “nanner puddin” but my Mom and Grandma do. Maybe I’ll break out that recipe and try it myself (and maybe even win!).
I do, however, despise thick meringue on top – hope that’s not a requirement. I can handle a little, but anything more than maybe 1/2 an inch bothers me.
GET OUT with the mayhaw jelly … someone’s been down near Camilla …
I agree that the local, slow, food movement is about far more than just environmental concerns. For someone like me who grew up on a “farm” (we had a garden and chickens and every now and then butchered a cow) I appreciate the hard work that goes with producing the perfect produce.
Not to mention that it seems fresher, tastier and cheaper (most times). For ME, those three are most important in my decision to shop local whenever I can.
I went to UGA, and the dining hall food was amazing! They had such a wide assortment of options, from pizza to breakfast to vegetarian…you always came out with your tummy full. Now, O-House has been redone, and there’s a stirfry and sushi bar inside! Yummo! With the expansion of Tate 2, the new food court also features “A Taste of Home Cafe,” where they only cook yo’mama’s recipes. UGA should be Number 1. I’m biased, but I think we have a good argument!
Congrats Billy and Kristin and I totally agree! Living in north Decatur, Cakes and Ale is a convenient, comfortable and delicious alternative to many of the restaurants around town. Keep it up — we love you!
Congrats indeed! Going to Agnes Scott, Cakes & Ale is so close and convenient and so ridiculously good. Plus, there just aren’t any other restaurants around town like it!
I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.
Congrats to Cakes and Ale ! And thanks to Billy and Kristin for setting up shop in Decatur. It’s a wonderful, casual place for a meal or drinks. And the desserts are spectacular.
I made her coq au vin once, a long long time ago when I was young and adventurous…it took every pot I had and that was just for the prep. I was too traumatized to ever try another one; but I loved her anyway.
I like keeping up with The Many Adventures of TavoLini – a very sweet young urban Atlanta couple- I am sending a link to my adventurous daughter and her fiance in hopes of luring them back home !!! Lini makes & posts beautiful pics of her vegetarian dishes, and pics of their home restorations are entertaining as well.
Foodie Buddha is neither a foodie or a buddist. His blunt, poorly written reviews borderline on personal attacks and terrorism. It wouldn’t suprise me to find out his real name is Corey Lynx. The staff at Mi Barrio, that he recently shredded, are some of the hardest working personnel anyone can ever hope to see in action. Does Atlanta really need another self proclaimed foodie trash talking small, family owned, independent businesses? FoodieBuddha’s site reminds me of Rotten.com, by that I mean everything that is wrong with the internet.
FoodieBuddha – have you ever considered the possibility that people know who you are – as the reason you are treated (and seated) like an ugly stepchild ?
I’m shocked you neglected to mention Jonathan Baker, editor of citysearch Atlanta. Perhaps no one is more plugged in to the Atlanta culinary world and latestest happenings than him. From his reports of tastings at The Masters to his honest reviews of Atlanta’s wide variety of restaurants, no one does a better job. He personifies what Atlanta has become; old southern charm blended with a hip, cosmopolitan vibe.
My favorite was the Havana Sandwich Shop, on the corner of Buford & N.Druid Hills,…before it burned down. Coco Loco on Sidney Marcus has also had consistently great Cuban food and friendly service for the last 20 years in Buckhead. The prices are a steal! I highly recommend it.
Was in the mood for Cuban cooking last week after missing the Havana Sandwich Shop when I used to eat there before it burned down. There is a Havana South near the I-985 exit and while the food is good, I wanted to try out the Tropical Breeze located on Hwy 13 (Atlanta Hwy) in Flowery Branch. As I was leaving with my to-go order, I noticed a loving grandma standing in the doorway watching her granddaughter assist me in carring out my food to the car so I knew this was going to be great bites!!! It was so goood!!! Almost like the Havana Sandwich shop!!! Another one that recently opened during the summer is located at the Johns Creek location is Cha Cha Bongo. It is a nice sized restaurant similar to Chipotle but it can be hard to find right away as it is in almost empty shopping strip. The food is good except I think some of it is a bit pricy and not enough choices to choose from when normally one gets a meal for less.
How in the world have you not mentioned Las Palmeras on 5th St? It is amazing. I dream about the pollo frito and plantains there. I hear Papi’s is quite good as well, but I’ve never been able to pry myself away from Las Palmeras.
Plus, are you sure Kool Korners has closed for good? I drove by yesterday and there was a new banner hanging on thw building next door that said Kool Korners.
Mambo’s in Alpharetta, Las Palmeras in Midtown: Hands down the two best Cuban restaurants in town. Mambo’s is delicious and relatively cheap, especially at lunch, but make sure to get there before 12 or else the small space gets crowded. Las Palmeras is good, a little more expensive, and they don’t separate checks for large groups. The service can be slow, but it’s worth it. Try the Hot Cuban Sandwich if you want to burn your toungue off. La Fonda is delicious as well, but not quite as good.
Rey’s in Loganville – Perhaps not best in the city, but good food, friendly owners and a pleassant respite from all those chain spots along Highway 78. Their roast pork lunch special on Saturdays with a side of freshly fried and salted plantain strips and black beans and rice is wonderful.
Mojito Cuban American Bistro in Historic Norcross is wonderful! The menu features the owners’ family recipes, and every time I go there I see many Cuban-Americans dining (always a good sign for a Cuban restaurant). The owners themselves play live music on Friday and Saturday nights (plus the last Wednesday of the month when they have terrific drink specials, to boot!). Luis is a terrific pianist, his wife Yanin is a beautiful vocalist, and your waiter may even be in the cast of musicians with a stringed instrument, bongos or saxophone. They hand out instruments like maracas, claves and tamborine so you can get in on the fun. My family and I can walk there from our home, and we eat there about once a week. They go out of their way to accommodate my food allergies, which is helped greatly by their expert chefs who prepare food from scratch at a reasonable price. Yum!!
Papi’s across from Mary Mac’s and also up on Chastain Road is very good. Their empandas are excellent while the sandwiches are fresh and tasty. I have never had a bad meal there.
Cuban Diner in Marietta is awesome. The Mojito chicken with black beans and rice is my favorite. Of course the plantains and tostones are yummy – not to mention the yuca fries. It’s a must try. The new owners are two of the most friendly people you’ll ever meet and are actually Cuban. They make you feel like you’re one of the family. The service is fantastic, the restaurant is always spotless and every experience has been one I would recommend to anyone. They are now serving beer and wine which is always a plus.
jennifer….I, too, had heard about a potential re-opening of Kool Korner, but it won’t be under the same ownership.
The previous landlord sold the building (which led to the closing last summer) and Mr Ramirez moved to Birmingham to be closer to family. He just opened a Kool Korner in the Vestavia Hills area of B’Ham….
Las Palmeras in midtown is the closest thing in Atlanta to my favorite neighborhood Cuban joints I visit every time I am down in Key West. Now, if only I could find a place to stop on the way to work in the morning for a triple-shot, 3-sugar, cafe con leche for $1.50!
Her onion soup (not “french”, just soup!), creamed spinach, fish quenelles (weird but very tasty), and numerous attempts at an omelet. What stuck me about the cookbook when I picked it up a few years ago was how the many french recipes really seem very american now, at least to me, no doubt due to Miss Julia.
Good article, but i was hoping for Cuabn rest. suggestions in the ATL. I just relocated here a little over a week ago, and desperately looking for my Cuban fix! That said, I’m Cuban myself, so I might be a bit picky as to teh taste of the food, but any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated! I did have a pretty good Cuban Sandwich at some place called Papi’s which is on ponce de Leon, which I told by the locals to just call it Ponce.
1. Coco loco’s is pretty good.
2. Papi’s in Stockbridge
3. Mambo’s has gotten to cute trying to jazz up the traditional cuban dishes. If its good you don’t have to do anything to it.
My dad loves Papi’s. He likes the one on Ponce, but said the one on Chastain is good too. I vote Papi’s, because my daddy is my Papi and Papi knows best! Viva La Papi’s!
Just had the BEST cuban sandwich *(’ve ever had) at Cha Cha Bongo on McGinnis Ferry Rd in Johns Creek. The fried yucca with aioli and fried sweet plantains were wonderful.
How on earth did Foodie Buddha make a top five list with so many other choices in the city? His writing is scathing and poor not savvy. It often needs to be fact and spell checked, and his anonimity is further proof that he is just a typical bully blogger who hides behind his keyboard and can’t stand behind his own words and opinions. This is not a top five list of equal company….Everyone else has a real name.
I guess there’s no accounting for taste: Coco Loco (the bland ropa was still frozen – microwave must have been on the blink) or La Fonda (Rice a Roni quality paella next to trendy Tex-Mex tacos) – good Cuban food?. Then again, the question was “Where’s your favorite Cuban restaurant?”, not where is there good Cuban food in Atlanta….
ok i was raised in Miami just moved here 4 years ago & i will tell you that there is NO GOOD CUBAN FOOD in the atlanta metro area. Papi’s? When they opened on Chastain I was excited & tried them..ordered pan con lechon & was flabbergasted to find LETTUCE on my sandwich…WTF??? Sorry folks but the best cuban food is NOT in Atlanta…need to go to Casa Larios, Versailles, or Latin America Cafeteria in Miamk to find that
80 percent of this list is worth getting turned on to. I don’t usually disagree with Mrs. Goldman, but this time I must. How in the world could you consider Foodiebuddha? We have insightful and informative bloggers in Atlanta. Blissful Glutton certainly fits the bill. Foodiebuddha?! Really?!
His wish to keep a hidden identity isn’t to review restaurants. You manage to do that with your real name, as do several other noteworty critics. I believe his motivation to stay secretive is out of fear. He’s slandered a large portion of the service industry. Certainly there are sous chefs and line cooks with revenge on their minds. John Mariani said it best….”the problem with bloggers is that people who don’t know the difference between a dinner roll and a tootsie roll have a voice.”
Being from Miami and my wife being Cuban, we kept looking for a good Cuban restaurant here in Atlanta since moving here 2 years ago. I kept hearing great things about the Havana sandwich shop till we tried it and found the food almost laughable. Then my wife heard about this little place in Loganville called Reys Cuban grill. This place is not only the best Cuban food here in the Atl area, but it would stand out in places like Miami and NY. The only negative about Reys is their location. Being in a remote location doesn’t help their status as being Atlanta’s best Cuban restaurant. I seriously hope they have plans to open another one of their restaurants closer to Atlanta.
3939 Atlanta Hwy # 103
Loganville, GA 30052-376
(770) 554-4440
Oh yeah. We spent a wonderful morning at The Flying Biscuit recently.
Take a look at the photos. Flying off the plate biscuits. Definitely my last meal in Atlanta: Sometimes you just gotta have a biscuit
I’m more of a Paula Deen type cook..With that being said though, I don’t think I could do something like this..I’m not a by the book cook..I just throw this in and that in and I never measure anything..
@Becky – sometimes (but not when baking!) that’s the best way!
This sounds kind of interesting unless (and please don’t run me out of town for saying this) it’s just a bunch of moms whose focus is on feeding the little ones. I’m really not interested in the best way to hide broccoli so finicky children will eat it or how to stretch 1 pound of ground beef into a meal for six.
But if it’s innovative and unique then I’m all for it (regardless of who cooks it!).
I was just explaining to the bartendress at One Midtown Kitchen last week about The Colonnade – she’d never heard of it. I’d have to say it’s probably the one place I could take my parents and KNOW they’d like it (they’re VERY simple eaters – Colonnade food is what they like best).
Myself? I love the feel of the place, and the food is OK. Cocktails in the bar, then some filling comfort food – I have two friends that I meet at The Colonnade about once every two months and one of whom RAVES about the wedge. I like the Saltines and butter.
Rodney, thank you..I too am not into hiding veggies so that someone will eat them..I lay it all out on the table and tell the kids just what it is..They try it, then decide if they like it..Are you going to go for this?? You would be great for it based on previous posts I’ve read from you.
That’s one thing that I do..If I want try a recipe and I don’t have all of the ingredients, I’ll throw in what I have..I’m always trying new things..My husband on the other hand is a true meat and potatoes..He never wants to try new foods, so it’s frustrating for me to cook at times..
Oh dear – I’ve made fun of the “Farm Town” people for months now (my sister is an addict) so I probably should avoid “Restaurant City” for fear that she’ll brand me a hippo-crite (inside joke)!
Eric, I SO agree with you…everyone kept telling me about Havana & when i tried it was blecchhh; laughable is putting it nicely. As a fellow Miamian, I’m interested in the place in Loganville you mentioned; just wish it were closer. Thanks for the tip!
I can say my experience for Restaurant week was great I dine at Morton’s Steakhouse they treated me with such class, like I was from Hollywood the food was to die for. Thank you Morton’s for making me and my Husband feel special for the night it was almost like I was in a fairy tale.
The best: Mojito’s in Norcross, Las Palmeras and Havana North up I-85 – Papi’s on Ponce is too noisy! The best Cuban sandwich was Kool Korners!!
Rey’s in Loganville is a good standby!
I hope that the new barbecue place, ‘cue, just north of Windward Parkway on HWY 9 enters!!! Their “BANANAS “DOSTER” (Named after it’s owner) is a homemade delight which has been referred to as “Heaven in a bowl”.
We tried Morton’s for the first time during Atlanta Restaurant Week. Oh my!! All the food was wonderful, the steaks were cooked as ordered, and the service was excellent. Our table was ready exactly on time. The Restaurant Week special was a terrific value. We loved it and look forward to going back again!
We had a great experience at Terrace, a nice new place in the Ellis hotel. They focus on locally grown food. It’s a bit tricky to find though, no outside signage that I could see. Not crowded at all! Yummy menu.
unfortunately, i agree there is no good cuban food in atlanta. coco loco’s is not good anymore, papi’s is just so so although the bartender is a sweetheart, las palmeras is prob the best, but nothing to write home about either… que lastima!
Smoothies can be good, and fairly easy and quick.
Good for you cereal is not a bad choice.
Whole grain Eggos.
Egg whites in the carton, maybe with onion and peppers. a fast way to get a decent scramble.
I have made the French apple tart, log roll @ christmas and croissants. All three took a very long time But were the best things I ever made in my life. I also use her recipe for crepes.
We used to like the Colonnade, but my wife got tired of the “almost dead” and the gays who accompanied them. I finally convinced her to try it one more time. It was one of the worst dining out experiences we have had in recent memory. It was no where as good as it once was and that is the last time I can drag my wife there.
Maybe she’s not crazy about “breakfast” foods (much like me)? My mom had greater success when I had the option to eat whatever sounded good – which varied very greatly – and I still follow today. Leftovers are/were always a popular choice! It might be anything from hummus & broccoli to spaghetti & meat sauce to a turkey sandwich to popcorn and chocolate milk. I figure if I’m getting a fairly balanced meal, it doesn’t matter what its contents/composition may be.
we tried both morton’s and blt steak. morton’s had both a stellar menu and the usual morton’s great service. blt steak was a true disappointment. we waited an hour past our reservation time, had slow service once we were seated, and were not impressed at all with our meals. add in problems with our check upon its arrival, and there is no way i would pay full price for that experience again. morton’s, however, would have been worth every penny even at their standard, much higher prices.
Let her choose! maybe she’s not a “breakfast food” fan (much like myself). If she loved last night’s meatloaf and mac-n-cheese, why not let her go with that? Turkey sandwich? Hummus & carrots? Popcorn and lofat chocolate milk? As long as it’s balanced and it’s actually eaten as the first meal of the day, that makes it breakfast to me.
agree with some of the other cuban transplants in ATL- cuban food is lacking here. Papi’s on Ponce is way oversalted. Coco Loco is even worse. Seasoning lacking in food. Las Palmeras doesn’t even use real cuban bread. These are a joke.
I have to say that ever since the Colonnade got on the food network and starting adding fancy sauces and those new appetizers, it is not nearly as good as it used to be.
New York, Washington and other cities have been doing successful restaurant weeks for years. From what I understand it’s a great way to make a few extra bucks during the slow time of the year and introduce restaurants to diners who might not otherwise get through the door for the first time for full price. I’m all for it, although you can eat at some of these places for not much more than $25 any time of the year. I’ll be hitting up 4th and Swift for sure.
If she won’t eat peanut butter, have you tried almond butter? How about the above mentioned eggo with jelly or jam on it? Or a turkey sandwich on whole wheat toast spread with cranberry sauce?
First, forget the onions and peppers. Unless you want her to be quarantined from the rest of the class for smelling like them. I just wouldn’t take the chance even if she brushes really well. However, I would suggest something simple like a banana sliced into a bowl of Cheerios (highest rated of those tested in a recent Consumer Reports, along with Kix, Life and Honey Nut Cheerios). Do not add sugar. Of course skim, 1 or 2% milk, not whole milk depending on her activity level. Great combination given the nutritional attributes of the banana alone. If she’s tired of just orange juice, try the Dole orange/pineapple or orange/strawberry/banana. As far as yogurt, try the Breyer’s Creme Savers variety. The Orange and Creme is really yummy. Creamy and without that yogurt bite. I know Walmart has them. Go to the breyersyogurt.com web site to see the nutritional breakdown.
Yogli Mogli is the hot new place around Sandy Springs. It seems like everyone i know goes at least 2 times a week. ALWAYS packed. Great frozen yogurt..
Armando’s Caribe in Duluth. The paella is excellent; the media noche is wonderfu. The mojitos are a taste of heaven. Even the fish tacos are good. This is definitely a restaurant worth visiting.
what if she’s not a “breakfast food” fan (much like me)? Leftovers are a proven meal. (tasted good last night, tastes good this morning). As long as the meal is balanced, it should suffice.
George: it’s actually much harder since 9/11. But I actually put additional names on my own card. In the old days it was so easy b/c companies never asked for ssn’s; now they almost always do.
A known reviewer can tell the public what is good about a restaurant just as well as an anonymous one. The advantage of anonymity is that if a restaurant has poor service or an unreliable kitchen, the reviewer will experience it. Unfortunately it seems almost impossible for a reviewer to stay anonymous anymore. It’s the public who misses out because of this.
I think the thing to remember is that an “official” review is only 1 part it. There are several sites that allow anonymous folks to go on and “review” a place, be they restaurants, oil change places, or handymen services.
Anonymity for actual critics is helpful but ceertainly not everlasting.
my 14-yr old is a picky eater, too. and to make matters worse, her picky eating habits are often compounded by her mood. i keep a stock of some of the items she likes so she can select what to prepare for her own breakfast: yogurt, egg whites (no extra ingredients — heaven forbid!), cheese toast, bagels and cream cheese, bananas, watermelon, granola bars, milk (2% — fortunately, she loves it). i try to encourage a grains-fruit-protein combo, but often settle for whatever grains-and-fruit-only selection she makes…
JSF: I knew when I wrote this that I was putting myself in the spotlight. I feel fine about it. You don’t know the details of what you are talking about, I assure you.
To A. Teesman. I totally agree. Cashin’s restaurants, particularly the one at Perimeter location, were totally iconic. I wish there were in existence today. Remember that poppy seed salad dressing…and the bar, a great bar!
Hate to say it but Shel’s comment explains exactly why so many people think there is good cuban food to be had in Atlanta when there really isn’t any. FISH TACOS???? CUBAN??? i don’t think so…Armando’s Caribe is serving Fish Tacos while trying to pass itself off as Cuban. Sigh. I will have tomake a trip home to Miami or cook it myself (which is what i usually do…it’s cheaper). Ropa Viejo, platano maduros, & moros at my house…everyone is invited
completely agree wtih blondehoney. Heck coco loco is run by non-cubans. If you think ATL has good cuban food then you are soooo blind. Again these are a joke!!! Find me a real place that has puerco asado, a well seasoned palomilla steak or platano maduros and I’ll be there. As blondehoney said.. fish tacos….right….. and taco bell is real mexican food.
Hi Chef,
great story, I’m a bee keeper in the Hudson Valley, NY. I’m also a chef, I’m an assoc dean at the CIA and we use a lot of really different flavors of honey in our global classes.
I’ve been bee keeping for about 12 years and still not too sure what I’m doing right or wrong…. I’m doing a lot of work developing recipes with the boutique flavors (terroir) that my bees produce. I get a blueberry flavor in the Spring, great clover in the Summer and Goldenweed and Maple in Autumn. I’d love to give you a tour of the CIA and some of the hives out here if you’re inclined to visit the area. Rachel could come too… it would be nice if she had a better understanding of the really yummy tastes of different honies…
warmly,
Tom
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I agree find some really good recession news, they could have just sent a press release about twenty per cent off, but they are laughing all the way to the check out, you’ve been punkd, mford.
what is with that place? it is always busy…the self-serve option?(machines lining the walls?) It is so great to see a busy retail store in Sandy Springs, while so many are closing up. That shopping center rocks!!
This guy is cool — I was at Drinkshop recently and he kindly introduced me to my new favorite absinthe drink, the Sea Foam. Good luck to him in the competition.
We tried Mortons, the food was great. The server was not so great, it was like we bothered him. We had to sit in the bar which was fine. Other than the attitude, it was a great experience. First impressions are lasting, I don’t think I would go back.
Meryl Streep has no comparison to her acting talent. She can master any accent. I loved her in Out of Africa…”I haaad a Faaarm in Afffrica”…lol…she choses her roles, studies, portrays, and brings the character to the screen them like no other actress before her has. I haven’t seen “Julia & Julia” yet…but I can’t help wondering…does the movie discuss Julia Child’s work as a spy for the OSS? <<<A little known fact, but a hell of alot entrigueing. Julia Child literally cooked up a shark repellent, because sharks would bump into explosives that were placed underwater, setting them off and warning the German U-boats they were intended to sink. Not only was she brillant with turkey…lol…but shark as well. Read up on those newly released factoids about Espionage in WWI at http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/apr/spies/index.html
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My husband and I had dinner at Joia the other night and couldn’t have been more pleased. I had the signature salad and the flounder and my husband had the caesar salad and short ribs. All was fantastic! Kudos to the Chef!!
If BC wants to compete with the gluten-free brands already out there, they will have to lower their prices. . .we prefer the Gluten Free Pantry, which makes a brownie mix that is absolutely heaven for our food allergic 7you who has been on the GFCF (gluten-free casein-free diet) all of his life. I usually get Gluten Free Pantry products for at least a dollar less.
My wife needs to eat gluten-free product due to the celiac disease, but also needs products that are soy free. Would anyone know if the BC products are soy free as well?
Betty Crocker is owned General Mills. The company is making a huge effort in GF foods. All Chex Mix cereal, except the Wheat variety, are gf, made at a gf facility. This is huge for my family because I do not have to go to the health food store for a box of cereal. I wish other mainstream companies would follow General Mills example.
You are so funny Bobbi.. Save that mess for the other post..We are trying to help people (especially children) who have food allergies and celtics disease..
Bone: Not all of them are — please check the packaging. The brownie mix definitely says it “contains soy ingredients.” And there are many reasons why allergies are more prevalent in first-world countries. We no longer carry a host of parasites (ultimately a good thing); we have developed an “umbrella” of over-prescribed antibiotics that muck with the body’s natural ability to protect and heal itself; we live in areas where air quality is a concern; and many women in the U.S. choose not to breast feed, which immunizes your child from a host of problems, including allergies.
We’ve tried the BC brownies and choc chip cookies, and we love them both. We even tested them out on two different groups of friends. We ate 3/4 pan of brownies in one setting, and we ate a whole batch of cookies in another setting. No-one would’ve known they were GF without us telling them. So much better than other brands we’ve tried! Kudos to a mainstream company. But yes, they are a little pricey…
This is sad news for the City, for food lovers, and especially for people who appreciate Chess Pie. There may be other places like Son’s, but to me there is nothing that is quite as welcoming or as delicious.
You can get BC gf mixes on Amazon.com for $1 less about $3.69/box. I buy many of my gf baking products from amazon as its so much cheaper. You do have to buy in bulk so about 6 at a time but its worth it.
Glad that Repast’ dropped off the list. I wouldn’t want anyone else to suffer a $25 disappointment. You would think the dishes should reflect their abilities. Instead, we felt they only had the bottom line in mind. To top it off, our server had to leave in a hurry to help the valet who had half the restaurant illegally parked in the City Hall East refueling depot across the street. Definitely left a bad a taste.
And yes, some of these restaurants can be dined at for $25 anyway. A faux deal. See if you can preview the promotion menu.
SWAPNA INDIAN CUISINE 2655 Cobb Pkwy, Atlanta GA 30339 (a couple blocks north of I285 in the Cumberland area). Big buffet, with plenty of choices, including desserts. The only miss is the iced tea.
maybe if he had opened on weekends…. he could have made it. loved deacon b’s but since i haven’t worked downtown in over a decade, i never made it to son’s. wish him well.
I love when athletes immerse themselves in the restaurant business. For every Mickey Mantle’s in NYC and Shannon’s in St Louis, there is Michael Vick’s in College Park or Phil Niekro’s Wing and Jim Beam Emporium, or Mike Fratello’s Short Stacks on Peachtree. Who among us will ever forget Jim Mora Jr.’s Pacific Rim.
$15 for two—at dinner even—is a heck-of-a-deal. My impression is much like Meredith’s: Not excellent, and a very good deal. The onion pakora ranked high, as did the frequent naan. I liked the tandori chicken, with the mango pickle chutney.
Good question RK — I think you are correct, since HF is more like morbier, with an ashen center line but technically not a blue. We should let chef Melvin know, too…
On Roswell Road, north of the Perimeter (285) there’s a resteraunt/club called Broadway Grill & Caberet. On the right side of the building, after you enter the front door is the club area. Many 40+ on that side.
Ticha and Dan….we are out of town, but SO glad to hear this wonderful news! Have a speedy recovery and we look forward to getting back to Tierra and seeing both of you. Love, Lynn and Mac
So glad to hear you found a match. We look forward to seeing you as soon as you are feeling better and ready to re-open! We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. M. C. & Bruce
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I have an uncle, a very, very “country” uncle, who was working in the Inman Park area a few years ago and he just couldn’t believe how close to “Mamas” the food at Son’s was (his Mama being my Grandma). He said he felt like “them old women in there” were the women from his church serving up a Sunday luncheon in south Georgia.
He just couldn’t believe that “in the big city” he found a place he liked to eat (evidently, some folks think all we do is sit around drinking Starbucks and eating sashimi or $25.00 hamburgers).
Son’s was a great place for some soul-ish/country-ish food – it’ll be missed, for sure.
i went to haveli in marietta last year and will definitely not go back. lahore grill in marietta is much better, but still mediocre at best; however, their vegetables were luke warm – a perfect setting for food bourne bacteria.
WOW, we just celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary at Joel Brasserie a few days ago and it was a fantastic experience. Ms. Ford is sure making a 180 degree turn on her last official review of this restaurant. It appears that she and the “tipster” John Kessler are out to ensure that they hinder any chance that this restaurant has at surviving. Of course anyone who sees the “Rexall Diner” in Duluth as a culinary treat needs to have her taste buds examined. I sincerely hope that Chef Holota gets past this and we look forward to returning to the restaurant in the near future. Oh and shouldn’t a food critic limit his or her comments to the quality of the fare and service and not try to butt in to legal issues?
Friday nights at Aqua Blue had a 30+ crowd on Friday Nights that seemed pretty happening, but I have not been there since we became expatriates of Roswell. My wife and I loved to eat at the bar and watch the mating rituals play out.
We ate at Sia’s on 141 the other night and there was a disco night in the bar that had an older crowd. The food looked more appetizing than the single, though.
too bad Cambell’s gone – I’m sure this could have been “expedited” during his tenure (”Mr Mayor, I found this briefcase full of unmarked, non-sequential bills outside your office – can you make sure it gets back to its rightful owner? oh, BTW – there’s been a little snafu w/our license & the change of ownership – what floor is that dept on?”…
only Mayor Franklin signs off on the license so it is all in who you know … time to kiss up if you want it expedited otherwise get in line …..Good luck!
Sounds like comeone has a “meat cleaver” to grind. Meredith obviously has a thing for the old chef and a disdain for the new one. Its a shame that Ms. Ford calls herself a journalist. The title for this article should have been “I don’t have any proof, but Joel Brasserie sucks, believe me, I’m a food ‘critic’”
Oh please. Ms. Ford…if you are going to write such a poor article, at least make it so outrageous that we all get a good laugh out it. Please pander somewhere else. Joel Brasserie as it is, is just find.
“Falling from grace…”. I am often suspicious of the motives of these official reviewers. Ford absolutely slammed one of my absolute favorite new restaurants a few weeks back.
Panahar on Buford Hwy does a great lunch buffet for $8.00/pp. Its Bangladeshi cuisine (similar to Indian). They offer a variety of meat & veg dishes, soup, naan and some rice pudding & fruit for dessert. Mirza, the owner is very friendly and will give you his recommendations- example-what chutneys go best with a dish. And they don’t charge a corking fee if you BYOB!! I highly recommend Panahar!!
Thanks for the reminder about Kurt’s & Vreny’s. I’ve been meaning to make it up there and keep forgetting. I really like German food and wish there were some good options for it intown.
Incidentally, my wife and I were driving back from Marietta on Atlanta Road a couple of weeks ago (returning from a pilgrimage to Douceur de France) and found a really nice German bakery called Bernhards. Very good bread and pastries.
I thought AJC gave the new chef a great review not so long ago. I love this restaurant. Not so wild about the AJC spreading word of something that is unfortunate but not unheard of as if this is the end of the far above average restaurant. Isn’t there something real in the food business rather than this sort of pithy tripe?
first this article has almost no information content. secondly, wtf??? she writes
…… exit of former chef-owner Joel Antunes for a high-profile gig at the renovated Oak Room inside the Plaza Hotel in New York
ok he is working in nyc
but then she writes
As for Joel Antunes, friends say he is spending time between a chef’s gig in Bali and London, where his friend and super-chef Daniel Boulud is said to be trying to obtain a position for him …
ONEChris is dead on it… Shirley just overruled on the Liquor Board’s denial of a bar on Peter’s Street in Castelberry Hill that wanted an entertainment license so they could hold parties all night long. the neighborhood said “no.” The Liquor Board said “no.” But for some reason Shirley said yes, even though the proprietor has a lengthy criminal history to boot.
Thanks for the info. I was planning on taking a group to Joel next weekend. It’s a group of heavy drinkers. I’ll book elsewhere now, but will certainly go back to Joel as soon as the liscense is reinstated. The pastries there are perfection.
Hello folks — if a high-end restaurant abrupty stops serving wine and other alcohol, the regulars will find out and word will spread. Restaurants make a lot of their money on the booze, and folks who go to higher-end places generally expect to be able to have a glass of wine with their meal. This is news if you’re really a foody.
Oh drama. Did someone not comp your dinner, Ms. Ford Goldman? “…falling dramatically from grace…”, The only thing dramatic here is your statement. Grow up.
I guess that the new people running Joel don’t have Meredith Ford on the payroll – hence the negative comments. She’s the worst food critic in the world flaunts her position of food critic when going to a restaurant; how can that possibly give her a clear impression of a restaurant?
It is REALLY hard to get an alcohol license in this city. It’s apparently no easier to change the name on a license then it is to get a new one in Atlanta . Getting legal assistance for this is recommended and really quite necessary because of the wavy conundrum of Atlanta’s ordinances. I think it unfair, however, to insinuate the lack of or loss of an alcohol license is a result of someone’s bad business sense or is because of the reputation of the former chef. Moreover, I think we all need to speak up to our elected officials that if we are going to become the world class city Atlanta is desperately driving towards with top notch food on every corner in every neighborhood, these ordinances, and the people who oversee them, need continued evaluation. I have not had the opportunity to dine at Joel in several years, but I’m willing to bet that most of the people working there have been giving every ounce of themselves to keep the place going, put great food out, drive business in this difficult economy, and deal with day to day operations. Chalking this up as yet another bit of bad behavior or arrogant negligence? Is that really fair based on the information in this article? I hope for the sake of the jobs that Joel Brasserie offers to people, the guests who have their life experiences there and the passion that goes into any restaurant of that nature, that they get their license very soon. In the meantime, the lawyers get all the money, the journalists get all the say so and small businesses scratch and struggle to make an identity for themselves in Atlanta. Rock on, independents. Let’s not let these times get us down!
Lay everyone off and close for one month. That way everyone gets a quick one month vacation paid for by the Department of Labor. Owners can save some money and everyone can relax before having a massive grand reopening! Maybe a new name just for kicks! Lots of opportunity if handled correctly.
As a former patron of Joel under Joel Antunes, and a regular patron of Joel Brasserie (including recent experiences) I have consistently had not only standout meals, but also superior service. I can’t imagine what kind of supporting evidence there is that the restaurant “has been dramatically falling from grace.” Whose grace? What fall? The only thing I’ve actually seen fall are some of the prices with the addition of new brasserie menu items. I look forward to another great meal again at Joel very soon. And an even better dining experience once their liquor license is restored (and I can enjoy one of the fabulous wines from their wine list!)
It is REALLY hard to get an alcohol license in this city. It’s apparently no easier to change the name on a license then it is to get a new one in Atlanta . Getting legal assistance for this is recommended and really quite necessary because of the wavy conundrum of Atlanta’s ordinances. I think it unfair, however, to insinuate the lack of or loss of an alcohol license is a result of someone’s bad business sense. Moreover, I think we all need to speak up to our elected officials that if we are going to become the world class city Atlanta is desperately driving towards with top notch food on every corner in every neighborhood, these ordinances, and the people who oversee them, need continued evaluation. I have not had the opportunity to dine at Joel in several years, but I’m willing to bet that most of the people working there have been giving every ounce of themselves to keep the place going, put great food out, drive business in this difficult economy, and deal with day to day operations. Chalking this up as yet another bit of bad behavior or arrogant negligence? Is that really fair based on the information in this article? I hope for the sake of the jobs that Joel Brasserie offers to people, the guests who have their life experiences there and the passion that goes into any restaurant of that nature, that their license is granted very soon! In the meantime, the lawyers get all the money, the journalists get all the say so and small businesses scratch and struggle to make an identity for themselves in Atlanta. Rock on, independents. Let’s not let these times get us down!
-Janea Boyles, The Mercantile
A story like this that is so off-topic, biased and poorly written casts a spurious shadow that I hope the AJC cleans up by finding a professional in the future to write in the this void.
Dude. It’s really hard to get a liquor license in this town. The fact that Holata doesn’t have one doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s a bad businessman. The whisper of an implication that he’s running the restaurant into the ground is just egregious.
It’s not Ford-Goldman’s job to be nice, but it sure would be decent of her to be…decent.
I just heard about Betty Crocker gluten free products today from my daughter who lives in Louisiana. I live in Oregon and have never seen it at the grocery store nor heard about BC gluten free products. Is it just regional?
I’ll take all bets that Joel Brasserie makes it. In the meantime I’ll drink my wine elsewhere and look forward to this restaurants re-birth in the near future. I sincerely hope they can pull this off and it would be a feather in the City of Atlanta’s cap to assist them as much as they can within the framework of the city’s ordinances. Does the city realize that this will have a domino effect if this restaurant closes,an the city afford to lose the tax revenues generated and the spendable incomes of the restaurant’s employees? Exceptions to the rules can and have been made and I think that in the case of a restaurant of this calibre, consideration should be made. Just my two cents. Best of Luck Chef Holota, I’m rooting for you (unlike the author of this blog).
Uh…okay, love ya, but…..in the end you are a journalist…and I am still NOT reading WHY Joel lost the liquor license….!?
Gumshoe 101….tell the story!
Your idea of telling 1/2 the story without the details (”Second there are sometimes part of the story….Let’s just suffice it to say that I know more than I can print…”) Head back to journalism school quickly, because it sounds like you are a graduate of the Fox News School of Journalis and graduated Murdoch Cum Laude!
Love ya, love your reviews…but frankly embarassed for you. Read your own article and show it to ten people in the biz who don’t know you and solicit some feedback. You completely missed the mark.
Blake: That’s fair enough. The license has Joel Antunes name on it and since he’s no longer associated with the restaurant, it has to be changed. That was stated in the post.
I have to agree with Blake, your excuse sounds pretty lame and FOXy to me as well. I think that your readers have hit a nerve and taken you down a notch. The written word is a powerful tool and I you have abused it.
You are exactly right Meredith. Wine is a part of the dining experience and I would certainly want to know if a fine restaurant didn’t have a liquor license. I believe Kim and Blake can be ignored because a fine dining experience to them is a hamburger from a burger joint.
Meredith Ford? Isn’t that a used car dealership in NJ? Why on earth do they think they have the right to kick around a fantastic Chef and all of his exceptional staff who would probably like nothing better than to serve YOU the best way they can, considering, only to find a “wanna be food critic/reporter” knock them all down with the strike of a pen (in this economy). We love JOEL, their ambience and their servers/staff. Ms. MF is complaining this morning that she was “misinterpreted” by the readers. Does she even read her own stuff? Falling from Grace? is she “reporting” from her experience since the Kessler’s “transfer”? Who cares about the ill-fated “laid-off” Joel, his whereabouts or who he is in bed with while in Asia? Maybe they need a “1 star” food critic in Bali! As for the City of Atlanta’s doing: one more reason NOT to socialize this country Health system: On the menu would be red tape appetizers with a moron vinaigrette, a “dragging everybody around for months” entree, finishing with a delightful serving of higher taxes topped with a flavorful permanence. I can see a new reality show on the Bali horizon: The Shirley Franklin, Meredith Ford and Joel Antunes show, straight from Bali: falling from Grace! Hold the press!!!
Good God Folks! She just reported they lost their liquor license.
It sounds like a lot of you worked there and now are going to lose your tips, etc….It’s not your fault but the new owners.
The city of ATL should not let another business and TAX REVENUE go out of business for this reason. Come on Atlanta get it together. You blew it with Buchhead and lost MILLIONS for your dumbheaded moves before.
Actually Kevrock/Smarty Jones – most people are pointing out that she wrote a glowing report about the new chef and the food in the spring. That many frequent the restaurant and not sure what she means by “fall from grace.” She has been 1) Remarkable inconsistent as a journalist who writes about food for a living. 2) She didn’t just say they lost their liquor license, she went on to strongly hint at the restaurant closing – if that were the case, we all would appreciate some sources on that topic rather than what is here.
The point many are making is that it seems to be a silly article in the first place and poorly written at that – would be nice for an article to have real meaning.
Facts and information should be a part of a good reporter’s regular work – Ms Ford has none of these qualities. When the AJC went through its reorganization – we got left with a trash rag. Unfortunate for a major city.
Meanwhile – you can take pot shots at Buckhead if you wish – easy target.
Saw nothing wrong with your report that Joel lost liquor license. You said why. Didn’t seem to bash it in my mind. Some people just need something to whine about…
The issue wasn’t with the revocation of the liquor license — that, in itself, is newsworthy and should be passed on to Atlanta diners. What caught me was the “falling dramatically from grace” portion; without any evidence to back this up, it just seemed negative and derisive. Had it been stated that you had information to support this, but couldn’t reveal it (as you have said now), then I think it would’ve been accepted as how you had intended.
[...] reported yesterday by Meredith Ford in the AJC , JOËL BRASSERIE is currently without a liquor license. Since then, rumors have been flying that the restaurant would potentially be closing next week. [...]
Buzzkills above!! Listen….She only reported that their liquor license was revoked. Good God folks get a life. This reporter has written countless great reviews about this place. Now if the city of Atlanta has any sense(right now that’s in question) they would not let a business fail for this simple reason and LOSE a lot of tax revenue. Good Job Meredith for letting me know this because I was looking into reservations in the next couple of weeks and this would have ruined the whole experience if we were not able to partake in their excellent wines that they have. Keep up the GOOD WORK!!!
My husband and I have been enjoying JOEL for the past few years and the food has been amazing and more importantly consistent everytime. I enjoy the new chef, Cyrille much more than former chef Joel. On more than one occassion, we have seen Cyrille come out from behind the kitchen and engage with his customers which is something I had never seen from the previous Chef. To me, that shows he cares and to say that the restaurant has fallen from grace since the exit of Joel couldnt’t be farther from the truth. We can’t wait to go back and wish them the best of luck.
Meredith suffered probably sudden short memory loss when she was writing this article. She forgot probably about the great review she gave Joel restaurant and Holota in the spring mentioning that food tastes even better. Think twice before you write next time Meredith, this made you to look really unprofessional.
Sadly enough, the Blog Krap Krowd doesn’t understand why you wouldn’t print what you can’t substantiate. The idea of confirming information or maintaining professionalism is unknown in the blogosphere. Ignore those whiners, Meridith.
Seriously, take the critisim and live with it. I generally like your reviews, but the problem isn’t reporting the facts of the story… it’s the comment that the restaurant was falling dramatically from grace. Where does that fit into fact based reporting or duty to the readers? It was just unjustified. And worse yet, you still don’t reconize it.
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I haven’t seen this book – but I’m all about the caipirinha ever since I went to Rio in March. i always try to get the ones made with leblon when i can find it. i had them at my hotel in ipanema. very good
[...] Concentrics’ Bakeshop to open on Peachtree – Glad that something is moving into the Gold Star spot on Peachtree. Not sure I wanted it to be a tempting patisserie! [...]
Ra needs to get over itself! Went there yesterday to have cocktails on the patio. It was not crowded so we sat ourselves on the patio, as instructed by the hostess. When the waitress came over she told us that we could not sit at the table because they were reserved for parties of 4 or more and we needed to go sit at the bar…for which there was no room. Although there were at least 4 of these 4 or more tables. We told her we were just having one drink. She told us she would need to ask her manager. Not used to such horrible service in Atlanta we got up and left. We talked to the hostess and said we would never be back and smiling and nodding she said, OK. I have never been to such a pretentious and arrogant restaurant. I will continue to give my business to Steel.
wartdog if you are ever near st petersburg fl go over the skyway bridge to the crab trap II it is palmetto fl about 30 minutes south of st pete they have danish lobster tails they are great i dont know about the pasta
Marshall at C&S Oyster mixes a delicious French 75! My husband and brother in law grew up in Brazil and report that Sal Grosso makes one of the best caipirnhas in town. The ice used for the Caipirnhas at Beleza is not quite right (it’s crushed) but their interpretation is very good, if you can get past the crushed ice and bad attitude dished out by the coctail servers.
As you said Meredith, there are so many cupcake places opening up. One thing I noticed is that most of the cupcakes are DRY. I love icing, but even the best icing can’t hide DRY cupcakes. I went to Cami’s once and have tried 2 cupcakes. Both were very moist and the frosting was great too. Definitely will be my go to place for cupcakes. As this place is not in the most visible shopping center (next to the BP, across from Justin’s (I think)), I hope it does well. Good luck Cami’s mom!!
Meredith,
Thanks for at least trying to get people to understand the difference between “on the record”, “on background” and “off the record”.
FOR the record, she’s right, a lot of times you’ll hear something that you get from a source that you are personally 100 percent sure is true. However, they may not be able to go on the record (for a variety of reasons) or you may not be able to substantiate it from another source, which is required.
In those cases, you have to go with your gut feeling as to whether it’s good information or not. If you think it is, you’ll almost certanly let it have some effect on your story.
As an example, if I’m writing a story on a teenager with cancer, and I hear from someone involved medically that they may have only weeks to live, and get it from someone I believe, yet cannot substantiate it, I’m going to write a much different story than I would if the same person said they were well on the way to a full recovery.
These are the times when you find out if you’re a journalist or not-do you go with your gut feeling, and if so, how far? Either way, there are simply things you cannot say, because you cannot substantiate them-at least a good journalist won’t. So maybe the ones criticizing your J skills need the remedial ethics course.
I agree – I have tried almost every cupcake place in town and if they were all dry (maybe not on every occasion, but certainly moisture was elusive). However, CamiCakes has had moist, delicious cupcakes both times I’ve tried them and in all flavors sampled (sweet potato, chocolate peanut butter and chocolate).
Also, since it’s just up the street from Varasano’s, you can try one of the city’s myriad (but good) pizza places and come here for dessert (if you eat early – CamiCakes closes at 8 or 8:30).
I make all’ Amatrician at home using panchetta instead of pig jowls, and crushed red pepper flakes in stead of black pepper. I get the panchetta in Publix as a chunk. I glad to know that someone is making it in Atlanta. I’ve eaten it in NY but have not seen it here. It’s really a great dish and people should try it either in the restaurant or make it at home
The Dan Dan noodles are simply amazing at Tasty China. I prefer them with pork. The staff also keeps a keen eye on your water glass. Given the fire that comes out the kitchen at this place it’s a virtue. Atmosphere is zero. Food is spot on.
Thank you so much for this article! I’ve been searching for a quality cupcake bakery in Atlanta since my beloved Sprinkles has yet to make it’s debut in the city. I will be trying CamiCakes today since they reviews seem to be quite positive.
I have been to Cami’s at least once a week and I have tried just about all of their cupcakes, I am such a fan that I take some to my friends that live on the other side of town just so they can enjoy also. It would be great if they were more visible, but the cupcakes are addictive!!! Good luck Cami Cakes.
I totally agree. I went to Suhi House for dinner one night and trotted over to Cami’s for a treat. These are really, really good cupcakes. I’m not a huge fan of icing, but her’s was fantastic. I recommend Cami’s to everyone. (And Sushi House is pretty doggone good, too!)
Don’t fool yourself, just because a cup cake is smaller, you’re still eating junk food. Thanks for raising the cost of healthcare. Truth hurts doesn’t it?
It seems like some people get caught up in the “you shouldn’t do ___” with particular ingredients, rather than judging the results. It makes the judges job easy, and do we really expect the other judges to speak up and say that they liked the taste of the steak after Wolfgang and Tom had their little giggle-fest when Tom asked Wolfgang what he would do if one of his chefs deep fried a steak at Cut.
It’s just TV, but I think those kinds of comments lead to food snobbery.
Slim and Trim, everything in moderation is fine. I am also Slim and Trim, but I will eat one from time to time if I want to. No one is saying they ate the whole thing or more than one. Geez, relax will ya.
I also agree that most are really dry and the frosting can tend to be a bit to sweet for my liking. Being that I love to cook, I try to make them with the least amount of fat and sugar possible without anyone being any the wiser. Most people can’t even tell that I take things out and put in “extra’s.”
I will have to check this place out, esp. since my cat’s name is Camille.
Slim and Trim, your attitude toward just eating a simple cupcake may be a good reason for YOU to try one. A little sugar every once and again does wonders for a person, and you should know that graveyards also contain healthy people.
Food snobbery is not a bad thing, as long as you accept varying preparations and maybe give something a taste before deciding it’s an affront.
I’ll just bet that the fried steak (and I’d love to get to P.Vida to try it) is a tasty thing. Sure, I prefer my steak warm, buttery-soft and bloody but hey, deep-frying a shoe might taste good if it’s seasoned well.
I think they were a little too hard on Chef Hector for the simple fact that he deep fried it.
Sorry – in spite of the journalistic ethics lesson, I agree with Tom P. If you can’t substantiate, the language should be far more moderate than “falling dramatically from grace”. The last posting only adds more fuel to the fire (there are things I can’t tell you about)… Your comments minimize your own responsibilities all the while deflectively pointing to a vague mystery of which we cannot possibly be aware.
enough with the “overwieght people have feelings too” speeches, can we stick to the topic? Lecturing Slim and Trim with your dime store wisdom is just as annoying, if not more so. People always get defensive about healthy living, rather than using that energy to get in shape.
Do you really think someone that is Slim & Trim would stalk a blog on cupcakes just to further their political agenda. I’m sure Slim and Trim is really Chunky, Lonely and Mad About it. That’s why they want to make the rest of us feel bad too. SORRY, not gonna happen!
The best is Dad’s home-made vinegar based BBQ sauce. Nothing can top it…not even Sonny’s. We stopped eating out all together because Dad’s BBQ was just too darn good. He even makes his own sweat tea with fresh teabags to help wash it down.
I can guarantee you, SexyCool, that the owner is most definitely NOT making great comments herself. I manage a business right next to hers, and she is PACKED all day long. She spends most of her time running between here and Florida to mangage three locations. She has a great reputation because she sells a great product and gives great service. Live with it.
If you cannot print what you know, the report should have reported the loss of the license and that they have applied for a new one. Period, the end. I reread the original post and still think it was spiteful and unprofessional.
I agree, something smells like a fishy cupcake, but I know better: it’s the PR chick for CamiCakes who is posting the glowing comments that contain a sentence in parenthesis: (Darling, the Average Joe don’t make blog entries with (…) that’s the mark of a lame publicist.) And striking up a bogus, albeit articulate (the giveaway), convo over stoopid cupcakes. Mrs. Hall please give ur PR chick a pink cupcake with her last check! She’s using a played-out playbook by posting bogus flatteries, this sours the palette. My faves: the peanut butter & chocolate, sweet potato and red velvet, they’re decadent distractions from that vile four-letter word: diet.
I have been all over the world, from new delhi to hamburg, and Cami Cakes is the best place is the entire world for cup cakes. I give my seal of approval.
Why do you continue to highlight intown restaurants when there are so many fantistic restaurants outside the Perimeter and your predomitly readership is not ntown?
Great news, as a former member of the USAF in Turkey, my children and I loved to visit the 57th Fighter Squadron. They used to have a great Sunday brunch. I think in part my son became a pilot because of our frequent visits. I look forward to taking my grandsons there when they reopen. Thanks for the update.
Soooooooooo, I tried this bakery today and I must say, I’m impressed. They were of very high quality and very moist – the Red Velvet was almost TOO moist for me. Overall, I enjoyed the flavors we chose and will be back. Thanks again MFG!
im new to town and my favorite wing joint is wing factory.. the hot lemon pepper and the inferno are exceptional. Does anyone know of a better wing place?
I’m not a big cake person, but I checked out the website for this place and boy do they look (and sound) yummmmmy..I would be willing to make a trip over to try the sweet potato cupcake…
CamiCake Camouflage is hatin. How u gon say someones pumping up a cupcake then follow it with which ones are your faves? Maybe u need to go sit down somewhere have a red velvet or sweet potato camicake and be happy.
I’ll tell you something wingman, Wing Factory is pretty dope but nothing and I mean NOTHING is touching my dad’s wings. If some of ya’ll on here want some real wings from my dad, drop me a line and we can hook it up. I’m telling you, his wings are better than anything you’ve ever tasted. I thought I’d had some pretty good wings when I visited Sonny’s one time but no, daddy really does it right. Holla if ya heard me.
Trust me, CamiCake Camouflage, I’m not the PR person for Cami Cakes (but I wish I were). In fact, I will work for free cupcakes. And btw, Slim and Trim, I actually am slim, trim and healthy as well. Training for a marathon will allow me some leeway in the cupcake department.
Every fall I love to make a pear and apple “crisp” – fruit and sugar go on the bottom, topped with crumbles of flour, brown sugar, butter, and cinnamon, then baked. This is similar to what you mentioned above for a “betty” – but I always thought the traditional topping for a “betty” started with bread crumbs.
CamiCakes CamiCakes CamiCakes! I couldn’t believe how delicious they are! They taste better than they look! My favorite CamiCake is the Sweet potato pie…. banana cream…OMG! If you’ve never been there get there! The photographer took lots of great photos… see CamiCakes for yourself!
Warning: You will want to eat your monitor
Enjoy! Here’s the links
Grand Opening http://picasaweb.google.com/NekaRazzi/CamiCakesCupcakesGrandOpening?feat=directlink
not “Betty”: True, traditional betties often had leftover bread crumbs on top — it was a great way to utilize stale bread. And I love crisps, where the topping is sprinkled, as you mention, and either baked or sometimes broiled. Yum. Thanks!
The caipirhinia is one of my favorite drinks…. I buy 51 Cachaca… One lime cut in quarters…. I tablespoon of sugar – muddled to death… crushed ice to the top of the glass (must be crushed – cubed ice does not make this drink a winner)… then pour the Cachaca over it and stir… OMG! The best – and you only need ONE! At least I do, when I make them at home…
For all you “men” out there, it is clear that you’ve never had a Blenheim’s. That stuff will put hairs on your chest. I think the Maker’s Mark is actually the mixer for the Blenheim’s.
learn how it’s made. the best spirits are distilled in small batch, copper pot stills. Single malts, small batch bourbons, cognacs, etc. are all made in the alembique process. Column stills produce the mass spirit brands which include all of the nasty, headache-producing cogeners and acetones that you want to avoid. you can usually tell by simply smelling the liquor.
I was expecting some Spanish standards — patatas bravas y alioli, gambas al ajillo, pulpo gallego, for example.
2 oz of jamon iberico for $11? That’s a good deal.
And the cheese is not “Idiazabel”, it is “Idiazabal ” (can’t slip a cheese error by me!). Speck is Italian. After reading the menu, I guess this restaurant is just taking cues from Spain, and not being Spanish 100%.
Gosh, just give me one of my Grandmother’s cobbler’s. Those dumplings, with the fruit,and syrup, was to die for. Not to mention, her little fried half-moon pies, made in a cast iron skillet. She dried her fruits, and made those little jewels. Ah, the pleaures of growing up in the South!
JCT Kitchen has rocked, from day one. Still prefer his fried chicken, and mac’n cheese! Love that upstairs view. No, I don’t do OTP. The best restaruants are in the city, end of story. I’m not a snob, that’s just how it is.
Yeah, $88/pound for jamon iberico is actually cheaper (if you can use the word “cheap” and $88/lb in the same sentence) than you can buy it in Europe (except Spain).
I may not want everything that’s on the plate. Also, have you upset the waitress at all this evening – since she is taking your food behind a closed door. Lastly, sometimes it takes so long for them to pack your food, it’s like they’re cooking it again. Give me the styrofoam container and let me scoop my food in there in 5 seconds. You really need an apron to scoop food? Must be a messy eater!
I despise the hostess who pityingly inquires, “Just one?” of the single women who don’t know any better than to go out alone for a meal, then seats them at a tiny table next to the kitchen or behind a post, even if the dining room is nearly empty. Funny, she didn’t ask the couple ahead of me if they were “just two”, and look at that, they got a table in the middle of the room!
Way to perpetuate the hillbilly stereotype with your over dramatic spelling of please. You could have made your point and used the correct spelling. What disappoints me is you mention you have a daughter. She will emulate your mannerisms and spread this substandard discourse to her offspring. Welcome to America.
What happened to the response, “you are welcome”, when I thank a waitress or waiter for something? Now it seems to be a large percentage of the time that you get the response, “no problem”. WRONG response! If it is a problem, then find a new line of work! Your job is to serve the customer or to “wait” on them. By giving them the response of “no problem”, implies that I might be bothering them at times and heaven forbid that I might ask for another glass of ice tea!
I’m with Rod, give me a container and I’ll do my own doggy bagging..
Morrigan, not sure if this is you that you are speaking of, but if it bothers you for the hostess to ask if it’s only one, don’t go alone..I’ve never had that bother me…
My biggest pet peeve: parents who take their children to restaurants and let them run wild. The rest of the patrons are not there to babysit or entertain your kids and neither is the waitstaff. If your kids can’t keep their butt in a chair for an hour, leave them at home with a real babysitter!
My biggest pet peeve is associated with the patrons – people who loudly blow their noses at the table! This seems to happen more and more when dining out. Please excuse yourself and go to the restroom to do this!
Yes preparing your own doggie bag is faster and more sanitary!
My two personal pet peeves are restaurant staff with long fingernails and those that have colds. Instant appetite loss is a waitress with her thumbnail in my plate as she’s serving. Or one with a cold and is sniffing and wiping his/her nose with their forearm while taking my order! Time to go home and have a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.
Doggie bagging is in fact best done at the table. Some years ago a waiter took some of my wife’s food to be “bagged” to the kitchen of a local eatery. It seemed to get lost and then when we prodded the waiter it was found. She got a violent case of food poisoning after she ate it the next day. We’re convinced the food was discarded, contaminated, and then “reclaimed” for us. To this day we wonder what happens when the food is bagged out of our sight!
I don’t go out to eat a lot, but here are a few things that I can’t stand:
Facial piercings on waitstaff. That’s just gross to hear someone’s tongue ring hit their teeth. And lip piercings, chin piercings are really a turn off.
And I can’t stand when they ask “Do you need change?” when I pay with cash. That’s just rude. Bring me back my change and let me make the tip.
I have no problem scouping my leftovers into a container. I do it all the time. They give you so much food in restaurants, and I take at least half home for another meal.
And yes, children that run wild bother me too. I use to wait tables and there were so many times we tripped and spilled food and drinks, because some idiot let their precious little one run around. God forbid they would have manners and actually sit at the table. I guess this goes on at home too……..apparently you have NO control over your kid!!
The thing that annoys me the most is servers who tote the trays of food on their shoulders with their heads turned so that their ponytail is over the food. YUK!!!
In the old days, restaurants had a smoking and non smoking section. Why can’t there be a separate children’s area and an all adult section?
After a long day, and wanting a nice meal on the town, I don’t want to hear/see screaming or misbehaving children.
Yelling, screaming unruly children and the parents that refuse to keep them under control. Restaurants should be divided into with children and without children sections. Nothing ruins a meal like a screaming brat at the next table. I agree with the person who earlier said if your kids can’t stay seated and under control for an hour stay home or hire the babysitter.
I also prefer to do my own doggy-bagging, for all the reasons already stated. I may have a certain way I want the food to go in the container, too. It sounds picky, but also, why should it be an issue?
Children running wild is a huge issue with me, and I avoid places that allow it. One of the first things I learned as a child was that there are times when one must sit quietly: restaurants, school, adult gatherings, etc. Does no one teach their kids this anymore? How hard is it for a kid to keep his butt in a chair for a while? Many people save their $$ to go out to eat, and they are not amused by your kids.
I also don’t like waitstaff plopping into the booth with me, unless I know them.
One other thing: if I order sweet tea, I expect it to have some sugar in it. Some places get this; others do not.
Now, for the good: I enjoy places where the waitstaff recognizes me. They may not remember my name, but I know they remember my face. I frequent places that pay attention to details.
I like a good deal, and I frequent places that offer it. I appreciate my food being cooked the way I order it.
1) Dirty aprons on the waiters or waitress.
2) Fingers in my food when they bring my plate.
3) Plates stacked on top of plates when they deliver to the table. Dirty plate bottoms could have germs.
4) When I get a refill of water or coffee and they put the pitcher where my mouth goes or they let the spout touch the liquid that is still in the glass or cup ( Hello we have Swine Flu)
5) I have to stop here or I will never eat out again.
I and co-workers often go to a local steakhouse chain for lunch. The server asks EVERY time if we’ve ever been there before. I’m offended every time. They can’t remember a face from 2 days ago? I’m tempted to ask them every time how long they have worked there.
The biggest problem in restaurants are customers that have never worked a day in the service industry. For the benefit of those to whom I refer, you complain about the dishes on the menu, you complain about the speed (fast or slow) of service, and you let your d-a-m-n kids run wild and crawl all over the floor. Waiting tables is already a lousy enough job at $2.13/hr and being at the mercy of the type of day your customer is having….or how they were raised. The few extra dollars you shell out at the end of the meal doesn’t entitle you to trample another human being in a nouveau-slavery fashion.
I cannot stand waiters who try to memorize an order. There is no shame in writing down the order and I’d prefer the order to be correct than to find a waiter who has good memory skills. When they try to memorize it, the best case is they cause unneeded worry by the patrons about getting the order wrong; the worst case is they actually mess up the order.
Also, it is annoying when a restaurant charges $2.75 or more for a soft drink with “free refills”, but the waiter never shows up with a refill.
Terry, most career waiters know their menu inside and out….try slinging 120 dishes a night on a 20 dish menu. Furthermore, not all waiters are morons. I had to wait tables while I put myself through Cornell.
I agree with Ex-Waiter (I waited tables for years), and I agree with Italian Diva about touching the glassware… everyone makes good points, but it seems to be a matter of opinion this way or that way. And there’s only so much a restaurant can do about unfit parents.
I want to add two pet peeves:
- If I have a first course, bring me new silverware. Don’t take my dirty knife and fork off my plate and set them in front of me. And on that note… don’t make me sit there with a dirty plate until the entree comes
- If I’m paying more than $10, I don’t want my waiter to be wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
There’s a certain high-end restaurant that used to be in a Buckhead strip mall – my first visit was formal and elegant, but on the second (and last) visit they seemed to have sent their servers to Applebee’s and Hooters for training. They were chatty and too involved.
Another pet peeve: when food comes out of the kitchen at the wrong pace. If I order an appetizer and an entree, I don’t expect to wait for fifteen minutes and then have them both come out at once. Tin Drum has a double whammy: they not only bring out the soup with the entree, the soup is scalding hot and you can’t eat it until it’s sat there for twenty minutes.
I am cracking up about Tori’s comment, being asked if she’s been there before. I would seriously start being snarky with that host.
My complaints: having to be instructed on how a menu works, or what’s a “small plate” and what’s a “large plate”. If your restaurant is so complicated that you have to explain how to order to every patron, well….
I can’t stand raucous kids in restaurants either. I recently sat next to a family where the little girl pulled her pants – and underwear – all the way down, and the family continued to eat. I have a young son, and trust me, at his first squawk, one of us leave the restaurant with him and the other one pays the bill.
1) un-ruley kids and parents who do nothing about them is a major problem. The restaurant could step in and say something, but doesn’t for fear of losing their business-instead they lose mine. 2) dirty aprons & shirts – long disgusting nails and piercings. I hope the restaurants will take note of these blogs, some have good comments.
Ex-waiter, I feel you. I have always contended that before someone can criticize waitstaff, they need to wait tables for a month and see how it is. I know it is a thankless job, and I have heard firsthand through many of my friends all the crap that waitstaff must endure.
There is no excuse for diners treating waitstaff like slaves, or worse.
That said, if you are unhappy with your chosen job, you shouldn’t do it. ANY job can be crappy if you have the attitude that it is. But, conversely, how crappy the job is is really up to who is doing it. It doesn’t take much to smile, be polite, know the menu, and keep track of your tables. Most diners appreciate this, and reward it. I certainly do.
I can tell when my server is “phoning it in,” and when they are trying to do their best, even if they don’t like the job. I don’t penalize servers for things that are not under their control.
I do know how hard it can be, but you slamming diners for their issues is no better than them slamming you for yours. If you are that misanthropic, maybe a job that doesn’t have face-to-face contact with the public would be more your style.
“Nothing ruins the end of a meal faster than having to spoon up your leftovers without an apron and schlep them into a box.” I agree, and this might be because I worked in restaurants for years and did a lot of dish washing duty.
When I have to scrape the food off a plate myself to put into a to-go box, I’m instantly transported to the days of standing in front of the stinking, steamy, professional dish washing setup and scraping customers’ post-brunch plates before washing them. Bad memories.
Plus, some tables are small and crowded and it can be hard to find room to carefully place an open box down so that you can put food into it without making a mess.
I’m curious — where are all these commenters finding the screaming, running children? I eat out a lot myself and haven’t noticed this phenomenon. Maybe I’m just coincidentally avoiding the restaurants where this happens.
Midtown waitress: No need to bring race into the picture — there are bad tippers and good tippers in every crowd. And while I’m at it — I’m with Darin — where are you guys eating that screaming children are running amuck?
I too prefer to box my own leftovers. Meredith, next time they bring you a box just ask if the waiter would mind boxing your leftovers for you.
And I totally agree with Terry about there being no shame in writing down the order. This is not an issue when everyone at the table orders the food exactly as described on the menu, but God forbid we ask for a substitution or two. There’s a 50/50 shot it’ll come out wrong if more than one person asks for a change, or if the last person to order asks some questions about the menu. Just jot down a note or two!
I have been a waitress, cook and bartender, therefore the service has to be really, really bad for me not to tip…I don’t mind not getting maybe the best service, but I do mind not getting a friendly server..I can handle not having my glass refilled right off, but don’t give me the impression that taking my order and bringing my food to me is the last place that you want to me….Don’t make me wait on something while you are in the corner talking or texting..
As to everyone complaining about kids..My two grandchildren (7 years old) go to any restaurant that we go to and don’t now and never have ran around screaming..They order their own food, say thank you when it’s served..If they want some sauce (or whatever) they say excuse me to the server and ask for it..If the boy has anything left over, he wail ask for his own to go box and box the food by hisself..They have better tables manners than a lot of adults that I’ve been around…
I agree with the others. I am black and blacks do not tip anywhere near 20%. I’ve seen my friends do it. I remind them I am a waitress and that is much of our income and their remarks are “So what?”
Isn’t it odd that I discovered that “freemikevick” and “black waitress” have the same email address? Dude, leave the racial remarks off the blog. You’re ruining a decent discussion for everyone else.
Girl…it is just you. The only thing that they have in common is the spiked up do and the butt chin. Richard can’t compete with those cute dimples of Jamies.
Puhlease?: I’m gonna say this only once: I can talk about my daughter. You can’t. It’s the same rule as talking about someone’s momma (oops! there I go with that stereotypical wording again). And I hardly think that asking for someone to keep racial remarks off the blog is “talking down” to anyone.
I am so addicted to the chocolate raspberry. It’s so hard to find a good chocolate cake and I must say CamiCakes is delicious. I wasn’t too thrilled with the yellow cupcake, but as long as the chocolate is good, they have a customer in me for life. I too have tried other cupcake shops and I would rate Cami Cakes at the top of the list.
I do have a word of advice. The staff could be a little friendlier and more knowledgeable. I went to the shop shortly after it opened and a customer inquired to the young lady behind the counter if the cupcakes could be frozen. She just hunched her shoulders and said “I wouldn’t put them in the freezer.” I could tell the customer was slightly agitated. The girl clearly did not know (as evidenced by the hunched shoulder) and the fact that she did not answer the question.
I want to see this business do well since they have a great product.
I side with the piercing complaint. Number one on my list. Seeing someone that looks like they have cold sores – well I have walked out before. I HATE when staff starts sweeping or dust bustering the floor around me while I am eating. I do not like to listen to the specials – write it down and give it to me WITH PRICES. Do not bring me my entree while I am eating my appetizer. And living in Utah, my God, you should see the amount of kids that have zero control nor do they have any parental control. Bring me some water right away and let me look at the menu before you ask me if I want a drink, and by all means, just service my table, no more no less..I’ll tip 20, no worries, but do your job. I do not care about “how hard the job is..” you know what you are getting in to. Do your job or do something else.
About Manhattan Cafe,
Smoking has been banned inside Bars and Restaurants in Athens for several years now making it unlikely for the Manhattan to be smoky or like the inside of an ashtray. It’s not. Dark it is.
I guess the writer was projecting.
If you are looking for a bar that is a throwback to the old days then the Manhattan is the place. There are no TV’s, the Jukebox still plays 45’s, the drinks cost half as much as they do across the street at The National ( which is really the best Restaurant in town ) and the average age of the patrons is about 35 years old. Girls Gone Wild / Animal House it is not. It’s a mature watering hole for old and young, gay and straight, smart and dumb, winners and losers, comedians and poets, black and white, and poor and wealthy.
The Manhattan is the best of Athens. It’s the real deal. Go ” Weigh Your Fate ” are their Fortune teller machine.
Manhattan Cafe – *****
Located on Hot Corner, USA.
Go.
Well I have a few myself.
1. I refuse to be seated at a table next to the bathroom door We will leave it at that for why
2. I do not like to have a view of the kitchen. I always see things that I don’t want to see.
3. Bandaids ,visible cuts,and dirty nails on my waiters hands will make me exit.
4.Waiters serving my $49.00 Steak with sleeve Tats.
My pet peeve is more about removing plates after the meal is complete. I hate to see servers stack plates and scrape food at the table. It’s very unappetizing at meal and I beleive it should be done in the kitchen.
Ditto about bagging my own leftovers; I want ti be sure I use my own silverware to move my leftovers.
FYI every that really enjoys dining out should read the book Waiter Rant, very very interesting perspective about the restaurant industry from a long-time waiter. Some good stuff and some you’d rather not know but a really good read.
Kids running around the restaurant drives me nuts. Saw one last night where the kids were literally running around, walking up to people at tables and talking to them, actually tripped a waiter at one point, yet the restaurat owners said nothing. The parents were too busy talking on cell phones an engrossed in their own conversation to notice or care.
I don’t blame the kids entirely, mom and dad must feel entitled to allow this behavior. The problem is this happens in all sorts of restaurants, from $ to $$$$, so you can’t avoid it. And Heaven forbid if you say anything, Mom and/or Dad will be complaining or calling the police on you.
I agree with Morrigan. I travel frequently and dine alone. I can’t tell you how many times the hostess says, “Just one?”. What…I’m not enough? I waited tables for a while since it took some time to obtain my degrees so I always start servers at 20%…I go up or down from there depending on the level of service. Another pet peeve of mine- people who round up or down so the total on their credit card is an even dollar amount. The gratuity shouldn’t be based on the cents of the bill.
About the african american tippers, I worked for many years waiting tables. We would try to get the black servers to take the black tables, but their response was “no way, blacks won’t tip us either”. Just deal with it, it is what it is.
I eat out frequently, at least 5 times a week. Sometimes I dine alone, sometimes I dine with others. I very, very seldom have a bad dining experience. Then again, I have a positive attitude.
Candidly, I get a little annoyed about the production made over asking if I want dessert. “Did WE save room for dessert?” “Are you ready for something sinful?” Blah-blah-blah. I don’t like waiters treating me like a five-year old; or someone of dubious character that is getting away with something. I’m an adult. Just ask if we’d be interested in dessert; and leave off the silly little drama about it.
When they take your glass away from the table for refills. no telling what other glasses they pick up along the way. i always use a straw just in case they have touched the rim but if they switch glasses. ohhh. i scoop my own leftovers. i do not like things to touch. and i hate to be left standing in the waiting area when there are plenty of tables. just seat me and tell me the kitchen is a little backed up. i can handle ordering a drink and being seated better than standing when i can clearly see many empty tables…
I eat out at least 5 times a week. Sometimes I dine alone and sometimes I dine with others. I very, very seldom have an unpleasant dining experience. Then again, I have a good attitude.
I was a waitress the year I graduated college. You can’t say you will remember everything everyone always say. Write down the order. People always make substitutions, no matter how much of the menu you have memorized. And once you leave that table, you know the table you pass to go put the order in will have some question or request causing you to split your concentration. You are more likely then to forget something from what the previous table said.
I don’t care for children running around or just getting real loud.
I ONLY drink water. Most waiters/waitresses don’t bother checking on my glass for refills as I haven’t ordered a drink. I drink a lot of water and want refills. I do tip well. But I want my water.
As for those that think one race or other tips poorly, have you ever thought that they are tipping YOU poorly because YOU had a bad attitude towards them?! If I had a racist person serving me and projecting that attitude I might be likely to tip less. I don’t care what color they are, if they are a good waiter/waitress, tip them well. But if the waiter/waitress treats the customer like crap… don’t.
I am not for all the facial piercings and tats all over the bodies, but at least they have jobs and aren’t on welfare which our taxes would be paying for. I want them to be clean. I really wouldn’t want someones fingers, nails, or hair in my food though.
As far as putting food in the “doggie” box, I would rather the waiter/waitress do it AT the table. It is easier to do it if you are standing than at the odd angle of sitting at the table. If they are doing it there in front of you, you can tell them you do or don’t want something in particular. If they were mad at you, they are doing it in front of you rather than taking it to the back to do who-knows-what to it. That is what I prefer, but I don’t find many restaurants doing that anymore.
One of my pet peaves I have that hasn’t been mentioned, I don’t believe, is… when the restaurant is busy and a good deal of the wait staff are hanging-out up front with the host/hostess and you have an empty glass or need some salad dressing. That is aggravating to me when they decide to just hang-out instead of being helpful.
When they say “Just one?” to me I say, “Yeah, but I’m a BIG one!” Most have the grace to blush. If they said, “Are you alone?” (obviously I am) I say, “For the moment. Can you fix me up?” Nah, I don’t really say that, but I would LIKE to.
I have always been a good tipper but became a much better one after my daughter started waiting tables. She has given me a great deal of insight.
Thanks Meredith, for putting the race baiters in their place. There are enough topics already that race plays a part in, but by golly this is just about restaurant pet peeves and not tipping does not belong to a specific group of people.
I wonder if any of you that are whining and complaining (including the author) have EVER actually waited tables?!?!?!? Did you ever happen to think that maybe your server has been working on their feet since 10 am and that squatting at your table is not an attempt to befriend you but simply to take a 30 second breather? bass stringerfish- did you ever think that maybe servers are required to tell you the special so that they can answer any questions you might have? If you all have SO many problems with your service/servers, maybe you should stick to fast food joints and save yourself and your potential server the headache of dealing with you. Also, watch Waiting- all those awful people at the tables- they are YOU!!!!!
Agreed on most all of the above and one additional, but huge peeve for me…not putting a beverage napkin down for my glass. I HATE to have the glass’s condensation dripping all over me every time I pick up my glass. And yes, I did my “time” and waited tables too!
I was at a restaurant in Asheville for lunch (Olive Garden) where the person seating customers actually stopped seating people in a particular area because 2 women had 2 of the most obnoxious brats you have ever seen. The two women totally ignored the kids, letting them run wild. Unfortunately I was sitting across from them. I began noticing that while the rest of the place was packed, my area had only me and the two womoen’s table seated. My waiter came to me and said my meal was “compted” by the manager. I want to know why the manager didn’t say something to the adults! If I have unruly kids in my store, they are ejected! AND I will tell the parents to take a parenting class! As a result of not seating people in the server’s area, he lost most of his lunch tips.
Also in Asheville, the person handing me the plate for a buffet, was hackiing and coughing and weezing like she had TB! I got my buffet, ate one bite and then had to leave…just imagining what germs had been put on that plate. Before I walked out I asked for the manager. When I told him about it, he apologized. He had just started and he had fired the bad employees. This crew was the good ones. I’ve never been able to enter that place again.
For the life of me, I can”t figure out why it bothers someone for a waiter/waitress to ask them are they the only one dining. It could be that maybe they think the other people/person is on the way from the car, or heaven forbid that you may be meeting someone else there. It would seem rather silly for them not to ask and seat you at a table or booth for 8 people and I promise you wouldn’t like that either.
One time with an annoying kid who kept coming to our table while his parents did not take care of it: I got up and took him by the hand and told them he needed to go to the restroom and I would be glad to take him. They couldn’t get out of there fast enough. I think a waiter”accidently” spilling some ice water on some of the kids who are running around would solve the problem.
Once I witnessed 2 drunk couples being obnoxious to the waitress so I went to the manager. It was ruining my meal since I had to listen to it. He comped their drinks and sent them on their way.
Finally, I will always feel grateful to a waiter named Chris at a restaurant in Canton. My daughters were eating here and some drunk guys in the next table were loudly commenting on my younger daugher’s morals (their ideas, if you get my drift). She was 14. My older daughter was impotent with rage. The girls’ waiter, overhearing the obscene speculation, went over and told the guys to cut it out. They huffed and puffed and he got the manager who sent them on their way. When I heard about it I called the manager to thank him and Chris and I sent Chris some extra tip the next day. I hope it made up for the tip he lost.
Okay, this may sound weird, but I’ve never been able to figure out how to flush the toilets at a certain high-end restaurant in Atlanta. I’ve only been there three times, but it’s embarrassing to have to walk out of the room and ask the hostess. Who, by the way, is just outside of the doors. I know that you want your restaurant to be upscale and trendy, but come on!
My pet peeve is patrons who nitpick with service and believe that by virtue of going to a restaurant they become the center of the universe. Get over yourself. You’re waiters should be polite and all, but many of you expect to be treated like the King of Persia simply because your dropping 10 bucks on a cheeseburger. It really reflects a lack of class.
My biggest restaurant pet peeve is the silly assumption that black diners never tip adequately. I always tip a minimum of 20% at full service restaurants and 15-20% at cafeterias or partial-service establishments. At rare times when a place is really terrible, I recommend still tipping 15% and perhaps talking politely with the server or managaer about serious problems. If you tip less, they would simply assume that you are a generally poor tipper and didn’t “deserve” efficient, courteous service to begin with.
Ear-splitting “background” music is the worst – didn’t like it when I as 25 and sure don’t like it at 50. Also unacceptable: frigid temperatures. (Oh, yes, the wait staff buzzes busily around the room, so they need to stay crisp and cool while the rest of us become glacier-like.)
Ditto on the Kids (and the Drunks)….but have some personal ownership for your experience….don’t go to a place that is always full of kids (or drunks) and expect not to find them this time…
Its like trying to fly out of the airport the day before Thanksgiving (again) and complaining (again) about the delays….
No one should be rude to solo diners, but seriously, why don’t you belly up to the bar and eat there instead of looking like a lump on a log reading your novel between courses in the main dining room????
To box or not to box:
If you ask for a box, at least have good intentions of eating the remains. Is this just going to sit in your (dates) car (stinking it up) for the next few hours while you enjoy a show, club, etc.?
Personally if I get a box, I like to see it done tableside, but I miss the nice bag with napkins, utilsils etc, it is presented with when it comes out of the kitchen instead of just dealing with an awkward styrofoam box.
I agree that it looks rather tacky to box up your leftovers at the table, but I’d rather do it that way and know that I am getting my own, clean food. If it’s taken to the kitchen to be boxed up, who knows what happens between the time it leaves your table and the time you get it back?
I had the salmon lunch special at Ted’s Montana Grill in PTC and had great service. YES, I was by myself and he did ask. I will go back, but not next week because the Race will make traffic horrid. I have always been pleased with the service and the food at this location. That is why I keep going back.
1. Slow food delivery
2. Cold food (when it should be hot)
3. Waiter with an attitude like they own the place and you are a peasant
4. $5.00 for a bottle of beer at a hamburger joint
5. Loud customers who act like it’s a private party for their group
Boxes: some restaurants have a policy that it is to be boxed in the kitchen. Some don’t. I prefer to bring the box to the table and I will offer to box it myself; this gives you the chance to say “thank you” or “I’ll do that”.
Water with lemon: really? You wonder why we scoff at this? You’re being cheap.
Water greeting you when you sit down: we need to up sell, its required. Did you just come in from running a marathon?
$2.25 soda: the machine to pour the soda costs $8,000, that’s why.
Free stuff: come on folks, be reasonable. Did you need that 5th loaf of bread?
Kids: I will step on your child rather than lose my load. Not my responsibility to look after them. It’s yours. Do you let them run around in the street?
Bad tippers: yes, stereotypes are based on experience, and my experience is that I can expect 50% of certain tables to tip horribly. I don’t treat them any less than other tables though.
“Table for one?”: really, this bothers you? Stay home … alone.
Listing the specials: people! They make us do this. We know you don’t care, but they make us do this.
You asking about the “cheapest thing on the menu”: hint, its you.
piercings: as long as there’s not a chain dangling, it doesn’t matter
tattoos: they cover them up, that’s most restaurants policy.
writing down orders: yes, I do. Some places require that the servers memorize the order. Why? Can’t say, but that’s why they do it.
squatting at your table: I’m tall and I’m sure you don’t want to be talking to my crotch, do you? It makes for a more personal and audible communication with you. If you don’t like communicating with your server, then stay the hell home.
sitting at the table: this is a judgment call here … I can tell when a stiff wad doesn’t want me there and I treat them the way they want to be treated. However, some tables are warm and friendly and don’t mind.
cold? wear a friggin sweater. yes, you’re sitting there drinking your water with lemon gaining weight while I’m hauling your plates around, and doing a lot of other things to keep the place running. Do you want me dripping sweat on you?
loud music: sometimes this is so you don’t hear the conversations around you. Other times the volume was set for when it was busier and louder … ask someone and it might be turned down.
attitudes of quests: remember the next time someone treats you curtly what you want to say to them, then imagine your livelihood depended on you smiling back at them.
serving as a job: it’s fast paced and physically demanding with relatively low pay. Most people who are doing this are in school or are here because of the great recession. 18-20% is the current norm for tips. If you can’t or won’t do that for any reason, go to McDonald’s.
attitudes of servers: no excuse for this. I can’t stand it.
Because my job requires a lot of travel, I eat in a restaurant every night when I’m on the road (120+ nights/year), and since my wife doesn’t cook and I don’t have much free time, we eat out almost every night when I’m home.
Pet peeves -
Kids. Period. Whenever it looks like we’re going to get seated next to a family with kids (< 5-6 years old), we ask for another table. Too many bad experiences with unruly kids or screaming babies. We usually try to go to restaurants later in the evening because of this.
But because we go to places closer to closing time, we run into the scenario where sections are closed, so we get crammed in next to the table of 10, or the cooking is rushed, or most annoying of all, the server is busy doing their closing duties instead of waiting on their customers. If a restaurant is open until 10 pm, I expect to get good service until then, not have to wait on my food while the server sweeps the floor or rolls silverware.
Another peeve not previously mentioned – when the server or busser sprays the table next to ours while we are eating. Nothing like a good dose of disinfecatnt on your food…
Have to agree with the complaints about servers that ask if we’ve been there before, especially at the chain restaurants like Outback, Longhorn, Applebee’s, etc. Duh – they’ve all been in business for 20+ years. Do I look like I just crawled out from under a rock? Wait, don’t answer that.
We’re not as germophobic / tat-ophobic as some. As long as we’ve never had a bad gastro-intestinal experience after dining at that establishment, we don’t worry about appearances. This may come from having old-school parents who left Sunday dinner on the table until supper without consequences, or who dredged up some from the fridge that we would have thrown out and made it taste pretty good.
Tip for the people that have a problem when they are asked ‘just one?’ or ‘eating alone?’ (this is from a frequent business traveler that eats alone all the time). Whenever possible, bypass the hostess and go stright to the bar. Unless you’re at the latest trendy spot, meaining the bar is crowded with the beautiful people / players / wannabes, or the restaurant is in a non-progressive state that still allows smokers to ruin your dining experience, as a solo diner you will almost always get better service and won’t look out of place at the bar. And if you plan to go to that restaurant on a regular basis, and you get to know your bartender and tip well, the experience should be even better.
I just read, “Cuddlee Bugs: Revenge o’ the Peach Potion,” and in it, there’s almost a knock-down drag-out between two women at a restaurant in Peach County, Ga. It’s hilarious. But that’s a scene in a children’s book. In real life, I hate it when the staff argues or talks so loud that it disrupts your dining experience.
To Big Maru – re: going to the restaurant at closing time….
While I understand your point — It is a legit peeve & they should offer they same high level of service until they close — isn’t that kind of self inflicted pain on your part to continiously go to places right before they close if you know the norm is for them to go into shut-down mode?
I have to agree with Meredith and Darin on the doggy bag issue. It’s especially awkward if you have more than two people at your table (or worse, a booth). There’s simply not enough room. Puts a different spin on the old “did we save room for dessert” question.
If you trust the kitchen and waitstaff enough to cook and serve your food, why wouldn’t you trust them to wrap it up for you?
I prefer to box it myself. Especially after asking a waiter to box up my half-eaten portion and him accidentally throwing it away instead. Reading the comments above, I consider myself lucky that he didn’t try to remedy the situation.
Pet Peeve:
- Watching my plate get cold as the wait staff finishes their chat fest.
- Bathrooms that turn flushing or locking the door into a “where’s waldo” game.
- Restaurants with too many rules. I won’t dine anywhere that has a minimum purchase.
- Restaurants that leave an empty tip line on the receipt when they’ve already charged a tip for large parties.
- Staff drama playing out in front of customers. Take that argument to the kitchen and resolve it privately.
- “Restaurants” that should just accept that they are simply glorified bars. It’s hard to eat a steak when you’re seated on a sofa 2 feet from the dining table/end table.
Never drink sweet tea at a restaurant. I have repeatedly seen the containers used to house sweet tea with active sugar mold colonies. Anything sugary slop touches will get mold. Cola fountain nozzles included. There are probably fountains out there that have never had the nozzles properly cleaned and tea dispensers that have never had the dispensing valve taken apart and properly cleaned. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
I hate… servers who carry large trays of food on their shoulder so near their hair.
…dealing with roudy kids..if I wanted kids I would have had my own.
…why should I have to belly up to the bar because I am eating alone?
…people talking loudly on their cell phones or to each other.
…as much as I enjoy Cracker Barrel food, I hate the noise. It’s hard to carry on a conversation at the table.
…I don’t go in near closing time at and expect to sit there leisurely enjoying my meal. These workers are tired and want to get home. Believe it or not, they have a life other than serving you. Going in near closing time is the same as going into a store near closing time and expecting them to stay open late just for you.
…I don’t care if the staff remembers me from one meal to another. They see a lot of faces on a daily basis. None of us are that special.
Back in the days when I went out to eat I solved most of my pet peeves by asking that a pitcher of water be brought to the table.If the answer was yes,I never had to wait for a refill and if the answer was no,I didn’t wait around there long enough to need a refill.
My pet peeves center around getting seated in the first place. If the restaurant is short staffed, kitchen backed up or whatever and there are open tables seat us anyway and simply say, ” I’m sorry, we’re a little backed up. Can I get your drink while you wait?”. I’ll be happy but if I have to stand around and look at 18 open tables until the staff catches up with orders I will probably leave and not come back. Second – I can see 18 open tables and the host/hostess has to spend 3 minutes consulting the seating chart to decide where to seat me. I know the host/hostess is required to spread the patrons around to all areas and servers but please know what area is up next and don’t make me wait while you stare at the chart like it’s the Rosetta Stone!
Yeah that is quite funny all the racist emails are from the same person changing his screen name.. CREEPY WIERDO. Anywho, There are many black professionals, attorneys, doctors, etc. who tip VERY VERY well. Don’t say it is all Black people. It is GHETTO black people, and church going bible thumpers that don’t tip AT ALL, or less than 10%. THIS IS A FACT, ghetto, not all black people, or people of color for that matter, so give me a break. Also, I have seen many instances of white people, asian people, obese people, tacky people, etc. leave NO TIP at all. How rude and pathetic. I am embarrased for them.
Oh yeah if you are obese, please please don’t shovel food into your mouth, nobody wants to see that at restaurants.. GROSS
Smart Guy @12:51, good point about the self-inflicted pain. Sometimes it’s a matter of choosing your poison. But by ‘closer to closing time’, I didn’t mean we will walk in the door 5 minutes before closing, I really meant ‘after the family hour / dinner rush’. Sometimes we will have already finished dinner, and the place is still supposed to be open for another 15 minutes or so and we can’t get our check or a doggy bag because the server has disappeared doing other chores.
mamaj: the reason I get upset when I’m asked if I’m “alone” is the way they ask. It’s like “Damn! We’re going to be wasting a table on just one person!”
Another pet peeve that I haven’t seen here. There is always one person who eats slower than the pack and the waitstaff will comoe pick up plates as soon as the fork is put down for each person. It used to be that ALL plates were taken at the same time. I hate to see the one person left eating when everyone else has an empty table in front of them.
whiskyright – don’t act so high and mighty about how anyone drinks their drink. If you are such a big guy, then can we assume that you are drinking cask strength whisky at about 55% abv?
I doubt it. All distilleries add water to their whisky when it come out of the barrel to ensure uniformity, and to dilute the whisky down to 80 proof or so. So the whisky is already diluted when you drink it neat…
@MANGLER. I don’t give a rats behind how much the machine that pours the soda cost, if I want to drink water, I WILL.. Other than that, I thought most of your post was great..
mjf, I have always eaten the skins..I grew up with my Mother telling me not to..Never worked…Glad to find out that I was doing something right when it was wrong..
Salad dressing on the side. I dip my salad into it lightly. Good bread? I just eat the crust. And yeah, no need to eat all of it. A good bowl of broth soup as an appetizer. And yes on the red wine – start with a really good one so you sip it and savor it. Fruit desserts can be light, or share the Creme Brulee with a friend.
I travel a lot for work, and do find myself in more suburban cities out of state that just don’t offer the same quality restaurants as Atlanta. As much as it kills me to give money to them, places like Chili’s and Applebee’s do have lighter menu options. It’s the good places in town that are harder for me- how do you make lobster enchiladas at Georgia Grille a healthy option?
Meridith + 1 on portion control. It’s essential to keeping yourself in check. If it’s a heavy entree or dessert split it with your dining companion. If eating alone, eat half the portion and take half home.
I will skip the appetizer or share one with the table.
Then I will choose an entree that is either grilled or broiled with no added cream sauce.
If dessert is ordered, I take one bite, drink lots of water and enjoy my one glass of wine.
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First, I try to scope out the menu online, before going to the restaurant and seeing and smelling all the great food. Also, since I don’t like cooking fish at home, I try to order (grilled) fish whenever I eat out.
BITTEREX provides a lovely example of homeschooling for us all. Can you imagine a the extraordinary command of people skills that a child would reap after spending just a few hours with them? Featured skills for recess would probably include nose-hair braiding and jail-house tattoos.
Pardon me if I don’t worship the blogger. These forums appear to be open for feedback and remarks. If you don’t like the answers, don’t ask the questions. I am part of the readership.
I ask for my salad dressing on the side – if they put it on, it’s a huge glop and it weighs the whole thing down. Gross! I like to dip my fork into the dressing (if it is of the thicker variety) and then stab at the salad. Hint of the taste with fewer calories.
I ask for a “doggie bag” with my meal. I then pack up 1/2 of my meal portion and dine on the rest. I also ask for the child’s menu. Most restaurants will let you order from there even if it has an age limit posted.
Last night, I dined at Longhorn at Lindbergh. While their dinner menu mentioned that the chicken dish I wanted had two breasts and two sides, They worked with me to pare it down to one breast prepared as noted on the menu and one side. They’ve done it before, and this was very similar to their lunch portion. It turned out to be plenty of food, not wasteful, and more affordable! Also, I often shove the complimentary bread/chips away from myself after I’m finished with the first course and ask the server to take them away shortly before dinner is served.
Ms. Ford – The AJC pays you for this? You link to a medicore article in another magazine which offers no insight and then cover it with a few words and no insight of your own….must be good work if you can get it….
It’s all about portion control. More ways you can limit your servings are:
1. Eat half the serving, pack away the rest in a doggie bag
2. Skip second servings.
3. Eat slowly and enjoy the meal
Ms. Ford,
Let me be more direct. Do you think you actually earned the nickels the AJC paid you for linking to a medicore article and offering a medicore couple of paragraphs yourself. What real value add have you provided?
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We are still encouraging people who can’t make it to Piedmont Park or other publicized pic-nics to host their own. Invite friends and neighbors to your backyard or local park. Take some photos and send them to slowfoodusa.org. And, ask all attendees to sign the petition for better food in our schools.
I happened to have time to run to Deklab Famers Market yesterday, and picked up those grapes (which I haven’t had). I’m not a grape fan…until now. That’s what a grape is supposed to taste like. The skin is fine, but those seeds are bitter!
As for the markets…there’s nothing worthwhile outside of the Perimeter from what I’ve heard. I’ve read that Marietta’s is poor. I’m just inside the Perimeter (northwest), but getting to the in-town ones can be a pain.
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Smartguy, welcome to the AJC….and to the drones that find such mediocre rhetoric acceptable. You should see the blog on the two guys that are supposed to look alike. Amazing.
Uh, Puhlease – Notifying readers of a new restaurant is one of the key elements of Ms Ford Goldman’s blog. Are you saying she shouldn’t mention a new restaurant opening? Here’s a great headline: New Restaurant Opens. The Body: A new restaurant opened, but I can’t tell you where it is, what it’s called, what it serves, or how I feel about it because then it’s free advertising. Maybe when she reviews a restaurant she can talk about the great meal she had, but it’ll be up to the reader to figure out where it is. Puhlease get a clue, Puhlease.
That sounds yummy! I remember as a child (I’m 60 now!) my Momma using either Hershey’s cocoa powder (in the can) and scalded milk, or the chopped bittersweet chocolate. I preferred the cocoa powder…and of course, to top if off, one MUST add enough of the LARGE marshmallows to cover the top (which sweetened it to just the right degree). (The little ones melted too fast…and the marshmallows were a huge part of the treat, to munch them from the bottom where they have soaked in the cocoa!) So many fall/winter memories of Momma making us homemade treats for when we came in from playing in knee-deep snow. (We lived in D.C. and Virginia until I was 19 and moved to Ga.) It’s just not the same unless it’s brrrrr cold and snowy. That’s a huge part of it tasting so good…sitting in front of the fireplace, sipping Momma’s cocoa!
One day, you query us as to how we prevent from over indulging while eating out, then another day you submit a recipe for a concoction that could kill most of us.
I hate eating in restaurants alone and rarely, if ever, do it. I don’t want to be seated at the bar eating my dinner bumped up next to people waiting to be seated. I don’t like idle chit chat about what I am eating. I realize that I am at the bar, but I still expect some privacy. If I wanted to be shoved up to people when I am eating, I would eat at a trough.
Waitstaff who take plates without asking if I am done with it are as bad as those asking if I am still ‘working on that”. I am DINING, not ‘working on it’.
Unruly children are an unpleasant experience wherever you are. I don’t know what has happened to parenting skills, but how do you expect your children to fit into society when you don’t teach them well? Manners are not that difficult to teach or learn.
I do like to pack up my own leftovers. I prefer to shovel my own food into the styrofoam containers myself. It’s not like the kitchen wraps them up pretty like they used to, in fun shapes like swans.
Thanks for the head’s up about sweet tea and sugared sodas…..gag.
Tipping well is just my way of saying “Thanks” because I didn’t have to cook or clean up and I got the chance to have really delicious food and just relax! I wish the tips extended to the kitchen staff who really did most of the work for me! Thank you all for making my dining out experiences so wonderful!
Cake Cafe is around the corner on Candler. Their cakes are the BOMB!!!! I see a little competition and they write on their cakes whereas A Piece of Cake doesn’t.
Eh. I’d have to disagree with you. I think she’s just trying to write an interesting blog. Anyways, if I don’t like something I read, I click elsewhere…
Meredith, do you know if there is a limit on the number of tickets that they will be selling? I tried to call the number you gave and it’s a recording that says the mail box is full..
I hate when a waiter or waitress is supposed to bring back pennies or a nickel or dime with my change but rounds down instead of up! I am the customer, if my change is $.79 cents I want my 4 pennies or my nickel and 4 pennies or my dime! Don’t just give me $.70 cents saying “We don’t carry pennies or loose change.” That’s STEALING from the customer and it adds up if it happens to every diner there. Also, if I want you to keep the change I will let you know when I pay cash, don’t take my $20.00 and disappear with it for 15 minutes when the bill was only $12.00!
I’m really surprised that no one mentioned noise-level. To me, it is very annoying to go to a nice restaurant to relax, have a glass of wine and a nice dinner and it is so loud that you have to yell to talk to your companions. The high, open ceilings look great, but it makes for a very loud place if it’s crowded.
The unruly children bother me as well, but let’s face it, it’s the parent’s fault, not the restaurant’s. Again, your paying $100 or more for a nice romantic dinner and there is a large table next to you with 3 or 4 kids running around, playing under your table, etc. and the parents are oblivious. It’s happened to me more than once! If it’s not crowded, I have asked to be moved away and the wait staff were totally understanding and accomodating.
Here it is, the biggest pet peeve… when the waiter or waitress doesn’t write down your order. We are not there to see how great your memory powers are, we are there to get what we order. 9 times out of 10, when they don’t write it down, something is wrong.
1. Apps’ where its at. Apps are where chefs make their mark and showcase their range of talents. These choices are already portion controlled by the chef, so ordering one or two of these is usually my strategy. Occasionally my eating partner (often my wife) and I will then split an entree.
2. Ditto on the H2O. Drinking plenty of this before the meal and right when you sit down a must. I make eye contact with the server and gently suggest leaving the water bottle with us.
Sounds like a great cause, with the exceptions of the no dogs policy. Dogs belong in the park, and they love a picnic. Know your farmer bring something to make noise, but leave your pet at home. I think you should try to be more inclusive.
YES!!! Hugh, coming to Atlanta, I can’t wait! I’ve been a follower/eater since I was up at UGA and Five and Ten was “this great little place in Five Points.” I simply love this guy’s food, and I’ve always respected his efforts to keep things more affordable. It really helped the college wallet, and will help in this down economy. Meredith, please keep us posted!!
I live in Scottsdale, AZ now but “once upon a time” I worked at Piece of Cake. Best time, best friends, BEST CAKE! You are very lucky to have it in your hood.
Enjoy!
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Sounds fabu! When the weather starts to turn, and cools down, we head up to nearby Cafe Intermezzo/Brookwood, and get a very large cup of their Hot Chocolate w/Nutella. It does the trick.
I can deal with so-so service, and food that is just average. But what I can’t deal with, like others have said, parents who bring babies/small kids to the restaruant, and ignore them, and just let them run wild. If you can’t afford a baby sitter, stay at home with your out of control kids. As a kid dining with my parents, all it took was one look from my Day, and I got quiet. Of course same thing happens when you are at the grocery store. I guess the poor guy, who slapped someone’s baby, just had enough. That was wrong, but it shows the extent of parents who let their kids run wild.
OMG! Yes! That is Wonderful!! I have loved Piece of Cake for a very long time! Didnt like the drive to buckhead though. I would always wait till they were sent to my office around Xmas time. Glad to see u in the Dec, now i don’t have to wait till Xmas.
Glad to see some restuarants are hanging in there. Me and my lady are taking a night off from Daddy’s home cooked BBQ and we’re attending the event on Sept 19th. I hope they have some risotto with a vinegar based pulled pork to go with their Tuscan Reds and Whites.
I’m all over signing up for this! Thanks for the heads up. Maybe if I can master French Cooking I can finally make something that’ll compete w/ Daddy’s BBQ. I swear, it literally becomes heaven in your mouth the second you get that succulent pork in there topped with that sweet vinegar based sauce. Ooooohhhh baby, I love my Daddy’s BBQ. But I’m about to try and compete. Can’t wait until September 23!
AJ, how did I criticize this entry? If all I wanted to do was criticize, I would not have praised this entry. Does you mommy know you are using the computer?
I totally agree with the blowing your nose thing! That’s totally inappropriate in a restaurant. All bodily excretions should be dealt with in the bathroom.
My biggest pet peeve occurs most often in fast casual restaurants. When they spray a nearby table top to clean for the next person and either the smell of bleach consumes the area or worse, I feel the mist grace my space, I totally lose my appetite. People, please spray low, AWAY from diners, or directly on the cleaning cloth. The sanitizer solutions available are much more fragrant than bleach.
As for water service, when a server rests the pitcher lip on the rim on my glass, they take my germs and pass them on to the subsequent glass to be filled. This happens more often than it should!
Lastly, if a server brings any dishes to the table, please ensure that they’re clean!
AJ, Puhlease only comes on here to grumble about everything (just about) that Meredith writes about..He/She is Meredith’s own personal critic or so they think..
I’ve told my dad for years he should open ‘Pike’s on The River’. He could serve his patented BBQ. I guarantee you it would leave Ray’s in the dust. Heck, you put his vinegar-based sauce on some of Ray’s seafood and you’d take that to another level too.
My Dad makes some BBQ cupcakes that are literally to die for. I would’ve never believed he could’ve completed the crossover of perfect flavoring from pulled pork to cupcakes but as always, the man is perfection in human form. Best cupcakes ever…
I know we’re in a recession. And I know this puts an extra strain onthe poor restaurant staff – especially the people working in the “bar” area. Now, I like a good mixology just as much as the next playa, but I came the restaurant to eat — not see-and-be-seen behind the velvet rope beyond Chili’s VIP-section.
Honestly, folks. When the entire restaurant is empty (from parking lot to table) and the “hostess” gives me a pager and points me toward the bar — my immediate thought is this would be a great time to go all “Carry Nation” on some bone-head management team.
Don’t insult my intelligence by attempting to tell me that it’s gonna take you twnety minutes to find me an empty table (”and… Hey! Why not spend that time buying one of our overpriced and under-spirited drinks in the bar!?”).
Little Cake is hands down my favorite! All the cupcakes are made fresh daily with high quality products. However, Pam and Meg ( who own the shop) do not create the fabulous cupcake flavors or bake them. This is all created by pastry chef, Kristia Paz. She deserves the credit for it’s ranking.
Have tasted several of their cakes, nothing special about them. My co-workers in Buckhead agree.
Though I live in Decatur, don’t think I will be visiting the new store.
Bahama Breeze is the only place anywhere that actually makes Mojito’s the right way…with fresh sugar cane juice squeezed to order through a sugar cane crushing machine. This guarapo is unique and no one else in town does it…I challenge anyone to dispute. Pura Vida does indeed make a good one, but even they don’t use guarapo. BB recently started serving caipirinha’s as well.
No, but after seeing the movie today, really itching to try some of those recipes. Somehow have survived 49 years of marriage and of course cooking, without any french cuisine.
4th and Swift has a cocktail made with peach bourbon and Flip has a cocktail that tastes just like sweet tea. Both divine!
I discovered French 75s in NYC at Cafe Boulud. Amazing!
The best restaurant ever is Swallow at the Hollow BBQ in Roswell. They have the BEST biscuits in Atlanta and the barbecue is unbelievable! Their ribs are soooo good.
Just down Candler Road is Cake Cafe – new to the area, but worth the wait for great taste. When you go in they say you can “Taste Love” and they are right. The Carmel, Red Velvet, and the Brownies are worth it. I found them in the cute little gold house.
Not surprising – I thought the place was awful. I ate there once with much anticipation – my croque monsieur arrived soggy. How hard is it to screw up a ham and cheese. However the worst was seeing the table next to me find live and moving organisms (worm like) in their salmon after having eaten half of it. To make matters worse the manager was not going to comp their meal. I told everyone I know about that experience and never went back. I would encourage Concentrics to concentrate on the quality of their food and not just having an awesome spaces.
I knew something was wrong when we had reservation for Midtown Restaurant Week on Friday night and they sat us in the bar area. What happened I ask the host? He said they were renovating the 2nd floor. We were handed the restaurant’s Midtown Restaurant Week’s menu with no choices and the items they picked for it was not very appetizing. We looked at the regular menu which was also very limited. There was only one other couple in the place on a Friday night at 7PM. BAD KARMA! We left and apologized to the host that it was not what we expected. We walked across the street to Park 75 at the Four Seasons Hotel where we had a terrific 3 course meal for $25, the Midtown Restaurant week promotion. Yes, they had choices and great ones that were all appetizing.
I know Midtown Restaurant Week got my suburban butt into the city. For me, it wasn’t really the food that left an impression but the ambiance of the restaurant and exposure to a neighborhood I’m not familiar with. Now I can get proudly show up that part of the city to out of town visitors.
Sooo disappointed a Piece of Cake is not on this list…their presentation does not measure up to a CamiCakes or Atlanta Cupcake, but all of their cupcakes are amazing… Absolutely love their Carmel cupcakes when I’m in need of a sugar rush, and the peanut butter cupcakes ( when they’re in season) are to die for.
I just called my Dad and read this aloud to him. How can we get involved? He is willing to share some of his expertise when it comes to the culinary arts. Believe me, this is not an offer that anyone would want to pass up.
The taco place on Sugarloaf is Taco Depot and their tacos rock! Especially like the al pastor ($.99 every day) and the choripapa which is chorizo with potatoes. Frijoles refritos are excellent, too. Try it. Marie
I’ve been to the Ritz, done that more than once, and there’s nothing coming out of that kitchen that will change the world. It’s all pretentious hyperbole that feeds the egos of a few “foodies.”
In fact, the last time I “ate” there, my wife and I left and went straight to the Varsity; nothing – nothing – beats a chili dog and onion rings.
Some folks lead pretty sad lives. When you read a blog about fine dining, go to the trouble to blog about it and then you reveal that you don’t even like (or can’t afford) fine dining – you must lead a pretty pathetic existence. Why don’t you folks go blog about something you do like – such as flashing your sisters.
Just a middle class family here and we celebrated my son’s 18th birthday there last year with the “Chef’s Choice” on a Saturday night in May. . . multiple interesting courses (never had lots of the items), expensive; but, we had fun and the kids and their mom and I will never forget it . . . worth every penny . . . Good luck, Chef!
I work part time at a restaurant that Meridith dined at recently, and had the opportunity to serve her. I have little doubt that she takes her work very seriously and can see through the obvious attempts to make sure she has an extra-pleasant experience, some of which we were guilty of (you can be damned sure our chefs were extra fussy over the plates). She and her guests were a fun and interesting (if a little intimidating) group, and in the end it was exciting to have the opportunity. I don’t know if it was a dinner out for work or for play, as I’ve not seen a review come out, but I hope she had an enjoyable time nonetheless.
In the end any restaurant worth its salt will recognize the local reviewer, but for the best restaurants it won’t matter because they focus on making sure all their guests have a good experience. And as far as the food goes, chances are if the cooks aren’t making good food all the time it’s going to be hard to suddenly reinvent the wheel because the reviewer has come in.
schmear | sh mi(ə)r| (also schmeer, shmeer, or shmear) informal
noun
1 a corrupt or underhanded inducement; a bribe.
2 a smear or spread : the bagel so perfect with a schmear of low-fat cream cheese.
verb [ trans. ]
flatter or ingratiate oneself with (someone) : he was constantly buying us drinks and schmearing us up.
PHRASES
the whole schmear everything possible or available; every aspect of the situation : I’m going for the whole schmear.
ORIGIN 1960s: from Yiddish shmirn ‘flatter, grease.’
My wife and I ate at Livingston for our anniversary recently. We had a really good experience and I was particularly impressed with the design and atmosphere. Before we left, we walked around the building and I noticed how lovely the bar looked. I’d really like to make it back here some time to sit at the bar and have some food & drink. Good to know they have nice bar food.
Speaking of nice bars, I went to Drinkshop a few weeks ago and liked it a lot. I was surprised because I had read some mixed reviews online — and the prices were very high — but it did have a great, elegant atmosphere for nice cocktails that is similar to what I imagine the Livingston bar is like.
I’ve eaten a lot of ribs around town and think I’m fairly forgiving when it comes to different styles, but these always seem to disappoint me. The most fat of any I’ve run across in town, mushy ribs that are boiled then finished on the grill with good grill marks but absolutely no smoke! Yes they are big. No, they are neither cheap nor particularly good.
Puhlease? always has a snide comment. I think he trolls this site solely to insult. He or she clearly doesn’t understand the concept of a blog. Puhlease? – If you’re going to criticize, you should at least make sure your grammar is correct.
Deep fried steak is a classic cowboy/chuckwagon dish. Face it, it is just prejudice that made them not like it. Deep fry chicken? Classic! Deep fry turkey? Innovative! Deep fry pork belly? Thinking outside the box to bring out the best of the ingredient! Deep fry steak? ABOMINATION! ANATHAMA!
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My husband and I tried Maddys and we were not satisfied at all. I really thought that they would be pretty good, but not. TOO much fat on the ribs, and the taste was not like they were grilled. I don’t care if the ibs are big or not, just as long as they are good!!!
You have to try MY SWEET CAKERY in Alpharetta, Ga. They have the most wonderful bakery items we have ever tasted. The cupcakes are not only delicious but are decorated to perfection. We celebrated our mother’s 80th birthday and MY SWEET CAKERY did all of the deserts for the party. We enjoyed a scrumptous birthday cake, two flavors of “to die for” cookies, the perfect Savannah pralines and more. We cannot say enough about this young woman who truly has a talent for baking. Try her and you will agree.
They have their new license. The restaurant is still awesome. The Food is still fabulous. The staff is wonderful. Chef Holata and the rest of the chefs are c’est magnifique. All the negativity is unnecessary.
Any city that has a high crime problem is a reflection of poor parenting. Period. Both mothers and fathers are responsible for this mess. Learn how to parent your kids propperly or stop having them. Poverty is not an excuse for poor parenting. It has nothing to do with love. Stop slapping, cursing and talking down to your kids, mothers. Start discipling your kids with love when they are young fathers. All they really want is for you to be around and show love.Your kids will go as you teach them. Or they will learn from the street if you are no there fathers.Now if you can’t do this you need to cover up and stop acting like a wild dog when you smell a woman.It’s not funny. This is very, very serious.
You were so quick to gloat that Joel Brasserie lost their liquor license a few weeks ago. Funny there is no mention in your blog now that they have had it reinstated…
The “Swifty” sandwich at M&T is sick. They also have some very cool beers. I recommend sitting at their small bar, ordering an app, and trying a few of them out.
Thank you for this list and thank you, thank you, thank you for not mentioning “phatty cakes” in this article – you don’t know how sick and tired I am of reading about these “phatty cakes” – it seems like a day cannot go by without the AJC or some other publication drooling over these dough balls. Talk about overexposure. I’ll never have one because of all this publicity. Again, thank you.
Toscano & Sons is a great little (and I do mean little) place. Their sandwiches make a really good, simple lunch — the Viola one is my favorite.
I also enjoy the store’s selection of sauces and pasta. It’s all quality stuff. I can pretty much run in here and randomly grab a box and a jar off the shelf and end up with a nice Italian dinner.
I know we’re changing the subject because we’re talking about wings. THE BEST wings in town are at Clays Sports Bar on Roswell road. They cook their wings to perfection and I only speak for myself the lemon pepper wings are just off the chain.
It seems like anything refined and traditional is going away in this ghetto of a city ..maybe the RC will grace us with another menu of pop-culture crap like most of the so-called restaurants in Buckhead. I can’t wait to try the Jalepeno almond crusted bison burgers and deep fried sushi.
Sorry to say, but I’m not at all surprised. We had dinner at the Ritz a couple years ago and it was a strange assortment of dishes. A $200.00 bottle of wine we ordered had turned to vinegar and after some reluctance they finally agreed and we were able to order another. The room is beautiful and the service was professional, although rather stilted.
As most of the posters show, it was a great restaurant for that special evening once every 10 years. That’s not enough to keep even the best restaurant going, especially in this economy. Given RollerGirl’s snide comment, I’m curious if she even ever ate at the place. The fact is, times change and the DR apparently didn’t. Bacchanalia is still going strong, but has kept pace with the current tastes of the dining public. Traditional means “stodgy” and, like classical music, just being “good for you” isn’t enough reason to drop a considerable load on dinner.
My wife and I had our post engagement dinner here 2 years ago. She said yes and we had a fabulous meal at the RC Dining room. The staff treated us even better that we could have imagined and a nice older couple celebrating their anniversary 2 tables over sent us a bottle of Champagne but didn’t do it until after they had left. Just classy. The food and service are both professional and that type of celebratory food will be missed in Atlanta. We need to support fine dining and forward culinary thinking. Sadly, this is what happens when we don’t. Hearing this and that Cuerno which was the only true restaurant serving the cuisine of Spain in town will now be a Taqueria on the same day makes me sad. I’m not a fan of most Buckhead restaurants but the Dining Room and new players like Craft are reasons to go and make our city better.
OMG – IBM Quarter-Century? Now that is something else that is going to way of the doo-doo. Longevity at any company is unheard of these days. I hope that was 5 years ago, blady, and you have enjoyed a great retirement celebration as well! Congrats on the 25 years.
Your right Bob about the snide comments. People who have been working in the dining room for 20+ years are losing thier jobs. I should know cause we are part of the Ritz family. A sad day for this family.
My husband and I took our two kids there one Christmas morning for brunch when the family drama was just to much to bear. I’ll never forget my 12 year old daughter looking at me with wide eyes and saying “Mom, this is truley a feast!”
wow! Atlanta really seems to be going down hill. Nightlife is practically non-existant. Vagrants are taking over the streets with
no police in sight. Boutiques cant stay in business because gangs rob them regularly. And now the best restaurants in town are leaving. I guess it’s a sign that things are only getting worse. =(
Its called evolution people!!! Great place with wonderful food, but change is the only constant in the world. There is no need to resort to insults and belittling of current taste in dining. Enjoy it for what it is / was and look forward to new and exciting dining experiences.
Fine Dining going away in Atlanta? Not quite so….if that were the case, La Grotta (Buckhead) would be going away. Don’t confuse the Dining Room with top notch dining…it was a hotel restaurant and hotel clients have quite a variety of places to go for less money and better service.
I have frequented the Ritz-Carlton, Buckhead, so many times over the past 25 years that it remains a regular part of my weekly schedule. I attend weddings, charity and social events, high teas, and even meetings there on a regular basis, always treated like a princess by every last member of the staff, from the valet who remembers my name (’spelled like the soccer star’) to the meeting attendant who pours me a glass of water (’with bubbles, not without’).
One particular occasion from the dining room stands out for me, however -a birthday dinner. The chef prepared a five-course meal, complete with a bottle of Don Perignon. While they may not have been serving me solely that night, they certainly made me feel like I was the only one to whom they directed their fabled quality service. I do not remember which birthday it was, but I will never forget sitting in that booth, listening to soft music, and consuming the most delicious morsels – truly heaven on earth. I thank you for the memories.
There was a time when I enjoyed both Seegar’s and The Dinning Room and was proud that Atlanta had two restaurants of that calibre. I have eaten in several 1 to 3 star Michelin restaurants in Europe and none were better than what we had in Atlanta.
However, the costs continued to go up, the service became uneven at times and frankly over time I just couldn’t over indulge at that level anymore; by about the 7th course I was miserable and begging for mercy.
My last visit to The Dinning Room was on my birthday two years ago. The place was practically empty, the service was stiff and humorless and the food while creative just didn’t seem to be worth the $800.00 for just my wife and I.
There was a time when I enjoyed both Seegar’s and The Dinning Room and was proud that Atlanta had two restaurants of that calibre. I have eaten in several 1 to 3 star Michelin restaurants in Europe and none were better than what we had in Atlanta.
However, the costs continued to go up, the service became uneven at times and frankly over time I just couldn’t over indulge at that level anymore; by about the 7th course I was miserable and begging for mercy.
My last visit to The Dinning Room was on my birthday two years ago. The place was practically empty, the service was stiff and humorless and the food while creative just didn’t seem to be worth the $800.00 for just my wife and I. I knew the end was near. Seegar’s was already gone.
This is terrible news! What a loss to the Atlanta restaurant scene. My wife and I have dined here numerous times to celebrate our wedding anniversary. The food has always been wonderful and the service beyond compare. I always recommend The Dining Room as the best restaurant in Atlanta, “insanely expensive and worth every penny.” We will really miss it.
Hey Workingmom…..Seems M Ford made a blog post revealing that Joel Brasserie got their liquor license back. Sadly, she did not credit you for this “breaking” news.
More than 10 years ago, my spouse and I went to the Dining Room at the Ritz Carlton for a special dinner to celebrate a special occasion. It was nearly empty. A family of 4 was seated about fifteen minutes after we were. The two children in the family of 4 proceeded to run around the dining room, yell, climb on the chairs, argue with each other, cry loudly and, in general, behave badly. The parents seemed oblivious. Our expensive, supposed-to-be-special dining experience was ruined. We asked our waiter, first, and then the maitre d’ to take control of the situation — preferably by asking the family to leave if the children could not behave appropriately. The waiter said there was nothing he could do and the maitre d’ refused to do anything. I have not been back to the Dining Room at the Ritz since then.
When I was younger, I used to work at a ritz carlton (still carry my credo card in my wallet). now that I am a professional, i go back to the RC-Buck just to relive that great time. at the DR, the service for me has been steady and terrific. the customer service skills I learned while working there have paid off significantly in my current position.
My wife and I had the most memorable dining experience there. It was a special event and the staff was outstanding. Service, civility and the food all the best!
It will be missed.
I keep reading all of these allusions to “ribs” and “chicken”. We all know that is code for a certain minority. However Atlanta has less minorities than it used to, so they would have no affect upon the RC because they don’t eat there much in the first place.
“Refined and Traditional”? Are you sure about all of that? Did y’all know that the venerable RC is owned by Saudi Arabians and has been for a very long time? Is that what comes to mind by “refined and traditional” in Atlanta?
While I think it’s sad that the place is closing, but there are still plenty of pretentious and over-priced dinning experiences to be had in this city. Personally, the best experiences I’ve had are at places without pretension and where one can find a slice of the populace having a good time and not worrying about making a political statement with their choice of restaurant.
SHS – a little inside tip, you should have asked to speak with the manager or the head chef. each RC employee is given up to $500 comp to help ease “opportunities” (they dont say problems). They can get permission for more. your dinner would likely have been comped.
We used to love the Ritz! The last time we went, 1 year ago, there were obvious drug dealers all over the lounge. We left and have not been back! No wonder it is closing!
Yes, the dump, formally known as emeril’s did close first (Thank God!). This place? Well, for fine dining we still have waffle house. That’s all you need. Think about the overpriced ($800?) food atlanta will miss.
Goodbye & good riddance.
The Ritz would often celebrate Valentine’s Day with a chocolate themed event. In 2005 Chef Bruno Menard created a lunch (presented as a cooking class!!) served in the Dining Room that was designed around chocolate. The first course had a chocolate vinegar on a fancy oyster, the second course was beef tenderloin with red wine/cacao sauce and then there was a wonderful chocolate dessert. It was all made with French chocolate selected by Chef Menard. The presentation was beautiful and each course came with specially selected wine. I still have the menu, the recipes and photos of every course that was served. Chef Menard came around and spoke to everyone. It was a lunch to remember.
My 40th birthday, group of ten friends, everyone still talks about the memorable meal at The Dining Room.
When I told my friends that I wanted us to go the The Dining Room for my birthday, everyone seemed a little surprised. It just wasn’t somewhere we go. We are all financially secure and could afford it, we just never really thought of it as a place to go.
Many people are blaming the economy and shifting tastes, but maybe some of the blame has to go to the people who were in charge of marketing The Dining Room. As Atlanta expanded and shifted, it seems the RitzC didn’t reach out and remind people to consider dining there for special and everyday occasions. Until seeing this article, I hadn’t thought of this place in years, but would think of myself as part of the right target audience for RitzC marketing, but not as someone who regularly dines in Buckhead. Maybe reminding people of this jewel in their own hometown might have increased foot traffic some, rather than just depending upon the typical upscale Buckhead residents that hang out in the RitzC bar.
It’s sad anytime you lose a little bit of tradition in our contemporary times, but what makes me even sadder is to scroll down hoping to read interesting stories about folks’ memories about dining at the Ritz, and it turns into an ugly rant about the city…okay, we all know the city can be better, but goodness, if it’s that bad, run for mayor, city council, something to make it better.
I’m assuming the $800 is not average, and included $200-300 of wine.
Even at $400/couple my wife and I would not enjoy it.
You’re right; they never did any promotion.
You’re wrong; I’m a Euro-American Republican, and I bbq’d chicken and ribs on Labor Day.
We had dinner there a decade ago or so and had among the worst fine dining experiences of my life. The wait staff was arrogant, our table was stuck near an entrance door of some kind, and the food was only adequate. I’m glad to hear that they are closing. All the more business for the truly dedicated purveyors at Bacchanalia and other serious establishments around town. The Dining Room was all hat no cattle.
The only fine dining place in the area now with a little tradition is Anthony’s, still hidden away there on Piedmont. I guess I’ll be going there more now.
A friend celebrated her 30th birthday there 15 years ago. Her family said that she could invite one friend because it was “so expensive.” I wasn’t the one selected.
Nice place, great service, but a bit out date. I think they should just revamp the dinning room and the menu. I have never had a meal there that I felt was worth the price of the bill.
Did sitting by a door of some kind REALLY interfere with your meal? I’m a hostess at a restaurant (nothing fancy) and it amazes me that people refuse to sit near a door of any kind, even a door that has never been opened. What does it matter? Do you REALLY sit there and think about how AWFUL it is throughout your meal? Does it REALLY make your food taste worse? It’s one thing for a restaurant to be pretentious, but it’s another thing for a CUSTOMER to be pretentious.
Meredith, you forgot to mention arguably the best chef in the planet; Bruno Menard. I frequented the Dining Room until Bruno decided to move to Japan. After Bruno left, the dining experience, wine pairing and assortment of desserts took a significant decline; albeit the service remained the same.
I’m surprised it took so long. This was the “emperor’s new clothes” of restaurants. The ambience and service were both superb, but the food was so “sophisticated” that mere mortals couldn’t really enjoy it, but too overpriced for most to admit it. One such experience there was enough for my wife and me. There are far better meals to be had elsewhere.
Meridith-I hope you have a thick skin and can ignore all of these folks who chime in just to complain or criticize you. I am not sure why they read your blogs if you bother them so much?! They need to get a life and go bug someone else.
My husband and I ate at the RC when we lived in Atlanta. The RC makes you feel like you are the one and only for a night of dining. We had the pleasure of meeting Guenter Seeger and loved his dishes. Food was excellent and have dined since at at his own place before it closed.
Sorry to see first class go away in any see but most of all Atlanta.
“luckydog”, study a map. The Ritz-Carlton BUCKHEAD is not in Downtown.
I’ll be sorry to see it close, although I agree it hasn’t been as good since Menard left. We still have Joel, Aria, Bacchanalia and many others. No, Atlanta’s not in decline.
My wife Helen and I got married at the Ritz-Carlton Buckhead and have shared several wonderful meals in The Dining Room, one very memorable one was a Truffles theme dinner. Our most recent event was for my Son Adam and his fiancee Brittany to celebrate their engagement. We will miss the RC but cherish the memories.
“Things Change”….please tell me you did not really spend $800 for a freaking dinner for you and your wife? Are you a total dumbass or just not good at managing your money? You definitely do not know Jack Schitt.
In my former job we had a division manager that would take a few of us every Christmas for a long and wonderful lunch at the Ritz. It became such a ritual that a we all started talking about our luncheon in July prior to Christmas. That divine man is now in the stages of alzhiemers but when ever I see him he remembers the fellowship we all shared at the Ritz.
Very sad! I must have been to the Dining Room 20 times over the last 20 years. It was always very expensive and a special occasion restaurant, but given our current economic situation it’s hard to justify the expense. It’s been over a year since the last time I went. The last meal my wife and I had there was absolute perfection. I have been to many great restaurants around the world and I would always compare them to the Dining Room. This is a great loss for the city of Atlanta.
This place is crap! I am glad it is closing. My wife got sick from eating at this place. I thought thisplace was wayyyy too stuffy and reminded me of the so called upscale restaurants of the 60’s. Time to being in domethnig new and hip!
I ate there many times but what stands out in my memory is the story a friend of mine tells. He and his wife took a client and the client’s wife to the DR one Saturday night. After dinner they were still hungry so they went to Manuel’s Tavern and ordered beer and chili dogs.
Virginia – the Afternoon Tea is served in the Lobby Lounge, which is not closing. Only The Dining Room is closing.
Luckydog – I’m not sure what closing The Dining Room at the RitzC in BUCKHEAD has to do with DOWNTOWN. If a store closes at Lenox, do we need to worry about the impact on Five Points? There are two different RtizC hotels in the City.
Diane Cox – the hotel isn’t closing, just The Dining Room. What your perception of those in the lounge had to do with The Dining Room is beyond me.
Catherine/Atlanta – it’s not like there are really any tables next to the door, as the door is down a long flight of steps. There kitchen door is behind a semi-wall, so I’m not sure what door you could have possibly been near. Given there is no rush of air when the door is open, nor does anyone enter until their tables are ready, I’m also confused how sitting nearer the entry might be distracting.
MR164 – Yes, The Dining Room invoked a past era, and could be described as being in need of modernization. That may have saved the place. I still think keeping things the way they were could have also worked if they presented themselves to the entire city as a retro-elegant choice for dining, rather than just expected people to come to the Ritz.
Jack S – Unless anyone asked you to contribute to the bill, what difference does it make to you if TC spent $800 on a meal? That money went towards paying the waiter, busman, host and chefs, as well as the meat supplier and his employees, the china supplier and his employees, etc… One of the things that made The Dining Room such a treat was the number of people serving you and cooking for you. Many of those people are facing unemployment now. Dont’ begrudge that TC helped keep those people employed.
Although it is sad to see such an icon go, that sort of dining is very much “out” these days and it’s a miracle The Dining Room was open as long as it was. It’s tough for restaurants to continue as merely a celebration destination, particularly one whose ambiance isn’t particularly celebratory or festive. Let’s get excited as we wait to hear what will fill the space. Hopefully something great that will be a bit more fitting to current tastes and styles.
As for the earlier post by “Now Hold On a Minute”, he/she is mistaken. The Ritz-Carlton brand is owned by Marriott and the Buckhead hotel itself is owned by Host Hotels (who also own the Four Seasons on 14th St and many other hotels in town, although not the Ritz-Carlton downtown.) “Hold On” may be thinking of the Four Seasons brand (based in Toronto), which has a great deal of middle eastern royal family ownership.
lilbern, i assure you it was that way at the ritz i worked at. maybe its different from ritz to ritz, but i do not think so. it was $500 without manager approval.
There isn’t a meal on earth worth $800/couple. Especially if there’s a possibility that the wine has turned to vinegar and the staff gets mad at YOU. Come on, people; wake up to what’s truly important in life!!
I wonder if they are closing the restaurants at the other Ritz locations around the country. I had dinner at the Ritz in Laguna Niguel several years ago. The price was crazy, but it was a special occasion and I enjoyed it very much. If you’ve never been to the Ritz in Laguna Niguel, CA, it’s spectacularly beautiful.
If you didn’t have to walk by the no tipping riff raff crowd in the bar to get to the retaurant, it would have made it. People want to sit down for a drink in what used to be a great bar before and after a great dining experience, but the bar is taken over on many weekend nights by an unsavory bunch. That completely diminishes the experience
I worked for the Ritz-Carlton, Atlanta International Sales Office in 1990 when it was HQ’d here in Atlanta. It was a great job and I won a sales contest with the prize being dinner in the Dining Room. I took my girlfriend at the time and we had a meal I will never forget as I had never dined like that before. As great as the meal was, it was small in portions as most gourmet meals are but being young at the time and a growing appetite I left very hungry and we went to the Waffle House to get fully gratified immediately afterward. It wasn’t that bad to do then as W.B. Johnson owned the Ritz-Carlton + had ownership in a number of Waffle Houses so I was actually being a “company man”.
My family took me to the dining room to celebrate my college graduation from Georgia State. By far one of the most memorable dining experiences I have had in Atlanta. I’m sorry to see it close and even more sorry that I can’t make it back one last time, as I am currently in grad school and on an extremely limited budget. I have eaten at many Ritz Carltons over the years and this one is second only to the Ritz in St. Thomas, VI, which has an absolutely amazing setting.
My parents took me there to celebrate my college graduation and it was definitely one of my most memorable dining experiences in Atlanta. Having eaten at a number of Ritz locations around the world, my experience in Buckhead was second only to the Ritz in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, as the setting there is simply breathtaking on the outdoor terrace. I’m sorry to see it close!!
I only enjoyed the Ritz Dining Room infrequently. I remember a Christmas party my first visit. We had dover sole as one course and the staff very kindly demonstrated how to use the fish knife to debone the filets in a way that was helpful without being condesending. Everything was wonderful and we all enjoyed it tremendously. A real treat that will be missed.
In the midst of the most severe recession since the Great Depression, a very fine and expensive restaurant closes……..and some people conclude there must be something wrong with Atlanta! Get a grip, folks. In the next recovery, fine new restaurants will open, though perhaps less traditional ones.
And please, just because you love the Varsity or Manuel’s, please don’t feel threatened by people whose tastes differ from yours….that’s part of what makes the world interesting. (For myself, I have enjoyed The Dining Room and Joel, and Manuel’s and the Varsity, depending on the occasion and the mood of the moment.)
I had the pleasure of dining at the Ritz a handful of times…each time was unique and memorable! The service was impeccable and the food a real treat to the taste buds–although not quite as wonderful when Chef Bruno left I understand that such a dining experience isn’t too affordable these days but I am sorry to see it will no longer be an option! best of luck to all the staff and thanks for memories!
I used to work at the R-C, Buckhead, and some of the finest people I know worked in the Dining Room. They were very genuine and professional. I wish I could remember the name of the fine gentleman who was maitre d’. I learned so much about customer service from him. Good Luck to all that work there and who will soon be job-hunting.
In this new economy, I’m enjoying Houstons a lot more. And the trendy set is dining at the restaurants on the Westside now. I still long for the days of the fine dining experience, though.
Had my fiftieth birthday party there, and althought I honestly can’t remember what how the food tasted, it was an event to remember. My best friend and my husband conspired to create a very memorable birthday. I was blindfolded with no idea of where we were headed, and when we arrived, I was amazed to find many good friends and a dining table with framed photos of my life as placesettings! I’ll never forget the Ritz Carlton Dining Room, and how lucky I am to have such friends.
Paul…thanks for the thrilling story of your life. Do you have any jewels about spending the weekends at your mountain chalet that you can share with us? You sir, do not know Jack Schitt.
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Frankly, the food was always an “adventure”, and not necessarily a good one at that. I took a client years ago and the only thing they were serving that evening was venison or rabbit. “Great”, I thought, all we can have tonight is Bambi or Thumper. I didn’t really think of that as “fine dining” but rather what one could get any night of the week as roadkill in middle Georgia. Just calling something with a fancy name doesn’t change the fact that you might just be getting ready to eat possum. Yum.
My wife and I were going to celebrate our anniversary there. However we decided to pay our mortgage and utility bills instead of blowing hundreds of dollars on a stinking dinner. Are you people stupid or just arrogant beyond belief? Get a grip and realize what is important in life. Young American men and women are being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and you are sad you won’t be able to spend $500 for a dinner anymore! Who gives a ratsass? You make me sick! God Bless America!!!!
My heart breaks to hear this. I had the pleasure to have dinner there a few years back with my parents and it was an amazing experience. I’m sadden to hear this.
To all of you classless, rednecks,peons and racists…you are all beneath contempt. To try and defame the best restaturant this city has, OR WILL ever know, just shows what small minded and petty insects you are. The Ritz is the ONLY hotel chain that still treats their customers with respect and tries to always make their stay memorable. It is not for everyone. If you are worrying every dollar you are going to spend, you really don’t belong there because its not about that. THey are there to provide the extraordinary and that is what they do better than anybody else.
I think Table Talk should do a story about why Joel lost their liquor license in the first place. Seems odd to me a restaurant of that stature (at least historical stature) would allow their license to expire.
This news saddens me greatly. I remember taking my parents there. I was in my first job in the city, out on my own as an adult, and wanted to thank them for their help in leaving the nest. It was one of the most remarkable meals I’ve ever had in my life — Chef Guenter Seeger was cooking there in those days. The service was impeccable.
Guenter Seeger is gone. Joel Antunes is gone. Michael Tuohy is gone. Sotohiro Kosugi is gone. Now this. I can’t help feeling like Atlanta is losing its top tier of restaurants. We still have a few, but the exodus is depressing.
Carlos…its called sarcasm. All these pretentious jackasses on here whining about losing the opportunity to pay $500 for a meal is going to ruin their lives. Who gives a flying crap if this restaurant closes? Well except the myopic pinheads who are whining on here. Just put things in perspective people.
I have eaten at the DR many times over the years and enjoyed most of those meals but the stiffness of the staff has always been a downer. I do remember a wine group party we had there 4 or 5 years ago that was fantastic. Ultimately, the changing landscape for fine dining in Atlanta will continue and more restaurants will get the ax. The economy along with the natural progression of fine dining foodies will force high end restaurants to change or face similar scenarios. I have eaton at many Michelin one, two and three star restaurants in France (France has 620, US has Zero) and they all blow the Dining Room at the Ritz away! Maybe the end of this establishment is really no surprise. The truth is that Mother Ritz got tired of subsidizing her Atlanta flagship.
Best mojito is at Wild Mangoes in San Pedro, Belize. You can belize dat. Don’t go to Manhattan Cafe high…all that insecurity and bitterness will chill your high. I like bulleit with a splash of water and my hot chick in my lap to light my cigar. you can belize dat, too.
I got drunk as hell one time before the peach bowl. Those were the days. The staff helped me to my car and drove to the Georgia dome. Damn those were the days.
There`s not enough people with the deep pockets out there to support these kinds of places. Well, there are you say? Well, they don`t want to mingle with the others this and other establishments gladly welcome in an attempt to generate the income to cover the bottom line. There`s plenty of people living within 5-10 miles of here and plenty of hotel guests to make a classy place like this a profitable operation. However. Look across the street at the two malls who`s target clientel is not there. Where are they? They haven`t been coming for years. They still live close by, but not many are frequent customers. Their spending and entertainment dollars go elsewhere. If you live and or work in the Buckhead/Lenox environment, YOU KNOW what I mean.
Why walk past a bunch of druggies with guns (with no gun permits) to go to spend a megafortune in a dining room? With all the taxes that the white people have to pay, who’s got money to spend for an overpriced meal?
Me and my crew rolled up into dis place and had aks dem boyz for some teriyaki wings and dem peeps looked at us like we wuz wack. So we rolled out in the Ben-Z and shot some mutha f****ers!
I’ve gone to the Ritz in Buckhead for dinner several times in the past for special occasions and always had a great experience. Hopefully the employees will quickly be able to find work someplace else.
For those of you that are dogging Atlanta, SIMPLY LEAVE!!!! You won’t be missed.
This is a great loss to the Atlanta dining community. The Dining Room is the example and far above what all other “fine dining” establishments in and around Atlanta can only dream of being. Only in my mid 30’s but the service from Claude overseeing the room to Charles giving the best table service we’ve ever had, our yearly anniversary dinner will never be the same somewhere else. We have tried other restaurants that are supposed to be on the same level, but none live up to the extraordinary menu, service, pampering and refinement that the Dining Room posesses. You will be missed greatly.
Egads….Lovie and I used to eat dinner there regularly and then I would bang her while the busboy watched. He used to make a joke about me hiding the Beef Wellington. After dinner we would go to the club where only the “right color” people were permitted. We would sip martinis and then I would bang Lovie behind the bar. Then again, all you undesirables would not understand what we rich people are talking about.
The only thing constant is change, yet there is a deep yearning for all things 80s when the RCB is facing its final days. How we yearn for Atlanta royalty whose last names are Portman, Cox-Chambers, Cousins, Laudermilk, etc. to carry the torch.
Agree with others regarding $800 for a meal. Everyone is different but I am in the crowd that wouldn’t even think about spending that much, even if I could without thinking twice. You can find many special places with great food and service for hundreds less. A higher price does not always equal better.
Kip – Great question. There are only 11 other Mobil 5-star restaurants in the US. The Dining Room was the only one in GA.
As for the dispute between eater and Lilburn – you’re both wrong. Each employee is allowed $2000 per hotel guest to correct any “problems”. This does not apply to restaurant-only guests.
I use to pee in the soup (pee in a flask in the bathroom and dump it in when the chefs weren’t looking) when I worked there in the late 80’s. My friend would flick boogers into the salad. During our breaks we would watch the customers dine on our “love” offerings. God help you if you ever ordered anything with a sauce on it.
I have a friend who lives in New York City. He used to come to Atlanta for the Home Builders Show in March and he would take me to dinner anywhere I wanted to go. One year we went to the Dining Room at the Ritz in Buckhead. I still think of that evening as one of the most wonderful ever. The food was great and the service superb. There will never be another Dining Room. I am glad I had the opportunity to experience it.
there are things like this you dont want to read ,i have a mix feeling about this i am sad to see this restaurant closing down ,that certainly some of my very good friends will lose there jobs,
but i also remember the amazing four years i spent as a chef at the dining room ,(meredith was may be not aware there was a chef between Joel and Arnauld,!) i want to remember the pride and joy i had to work with the fantastic team of the restaurant ,i want to remember all the people who came over the years to ask their loved one “do you want to marry me ” because it was the ultimate place in town to do so ,to remember all those people i had the privilege to share a moment of there life ,celebrating any occasion at this fabulous restaurant ,
This restaurant is one of the only restaurant in Amecica who kept the 5 mobil stars and 5 AAA diamonds for so many years ,it is THE only restaurant in America who had 4 chefs in a row with those awards, and i am very proud to be one of those
If i had not worked at the dining room those four year i definitely ,not be a 3 michelin stars chef today here in Tokyo ,i spent in Atlanta and at the dining room some of the best years of my life,
i worked at that time with the finest professional in this business, true and genuine ladies and gentlemen. my dear friends i wish you all the best ,you gave so much to every one.
The Foodie: You are incorrect in stating that the US has no Michelin three star restaurants. In 2009, there are six:
* Four in New York (Jean-Georges, Le Bernardin, Masa, and Per Se)
* One in the San Francisco area (The French Laundry)
* One in Las Vegas (Joel Robuchon)
Wow, if so many people ate there and loved it then why are they closing? I am sorry to see anything close but the truth is that we can’t afford to go to many of these places on a regular basis.
Stayed at the Ritz-Carlton Buckhead for my wife and my first wedding anniversary in the mid-90’s. We both enjoyed Sunday brunch at the restaurant on the main floor much more than our Saturday night dinner at the Dining Room. Since then I’ve had much better meals at other local places that seem to just try harder to please rather than resting on their laurels as the Dining Room seemed to be doing. So many nice hotels and restaurants have opened in Buckhead since 1995 that it’s going to be hard to miss the DR.
How in the world could a restaurant closing be about Race. I am truly sorry for the lost of a great institution and the lost of jobs. However, we are in hard times people are losing jobs, pay cuts and loosing money in a market thats volatile. We should feel sorry for the loose of jobs and for some a way of life. Its not about race or Atlanta. This city will evolve and continue to grow and change. Most importantly be diverse in a still very much racist world. Most of your comments are so sad. To the RC Dining room I wish you guys the best.
Truly a classic in Atlanta. I remember my in-laws taking my husband and I there to celebrate our anniversary. They insisted on taking my son who was about 7 then. Like every child who goes to the rest room many times, they kept escorting him to the rest room, refolded his napkin many times over. He was exceptionally impressed when the servers stood around the table to reveal under the famous domed plate covers all at one time. One, two, three, wow a burger and fries! (they got it from another place in the restaurant to accomodate him)
One time after one of my pit bulls had won me about $20K, me and my homeboy A.I. went to this great restaurant to celebrate. They almost didn’t let me in because I still had quite a bit of blood on my sleeves, but one mention of the Rev. Al got us seated with no wait.
We started with a big order of chicken wings. They were prepared just right, and the ranch to dip them in was even better than the ranch dressing at O’Charley’s! The crunchy celery was also most impressive! For our next course, we ordered the house salad with extra, extra ranch dressing. Again, a delightful presentation, as the chef was quick to honor our request to top the salad with ranch-battered fried popcorn chicken pieces. Then, after much deliberation and consideration of the six or so specials presented by Harry, our flamboyantly gay waiter, we both decided on the Fried Chicken ala Ranch, which was essentially a huge portion of ranch-battered fried chicken, with extra, extra ranch dressing on the side, served with a huge portion of french fries and ranch dressing. What a meal it was, one I will never forget! We knew the Dining Room was expensive coming in, and were well aware that the food here was more expensive than at Applebee’s Neighbor Bar and Grill in East Point, where we usually eat. But it was a surprise when the bill arrived and it was $972.57! Although in fairness, I did not realize that the grape soda refills were NOT free. So I picked up the check, left Harry a much-deserved five dollar tip, the biggest gratuity I have ever forked out, and left with a smile on my face. I had intended to take Viper, my winning pit bull from earlier in the night, a nice “doggy bag” of some fried chicken scraps as a reward from killing Daisy, Clinton Portis’ pit bull. But my brother Marcus called me during the main course and said Viper had up and died from the deep gashes he had suffered in his fight with Daisy before he finished her off. So, thanks Dining Room. I’m really sad to see you close and will never forget your incredible ranch-battered fried chicken that I celebrated a “big win” with back in 2005! Holla!
The dining room is a special place. It isn’t a place that ordinary people would goto on a daily basis and I don’t think that is what it’s meant to be. It’s an experience (was…) and I am very proud to be apart of it. I’ll be on the list of people who will be without a job after October 1st. It’s hard reading ignorant comments on here of people saying things like “good riddance”. If you’ve never been, then why comment? It doesn’t cost “800″ dollars for 2 people either. That is rediculous… Something that many people probaby don’t understand is that just about every cook, or front of the house person for that matter, moved to Atlanta JUST to work at the dining room. It’s a terrible thing that this is happening. I don’t see how it envolves the war in Iraq?
I just want to clarify that the HOTEL is NOT closing. Only the dining room is.
I took my wife there for dinner for our anniversary back when Guenter Seeger was running the joint. I excused myself to visit the men’s room while we were on hold for our entree. When I came back, my wife had been served but my meal had been “Returned to the Kitchen Because You Were Not Here When It Was Served At It’s Peak Moment Of Perfection and That Would Only Ruin Your Experience.” I ordered a replacement but “I’m Sorry Sir, That Was The Last One” set me up for dessert while my wife ate alone. What a dump. Whoopie was right …
Umm-hmm…I reckon I liked them french fried pertaters they had there…umm-hmm. I also took a likin’ to their mustard buscuits,,,umm-hmm. If I had time to study on it, I’d go with their potted meat and sodie crackers though. Umm-hmmm.
They should have raised their prices a lot higher to keep more revenue coming in, so they could stay in business. People that go there can afford to pay a lot more!
WK, if you read the comments on ANY article in the AJC, they always get around to race!
Sad indeed that an article about the closing of a restaurant generates this babble. Is there no one at the AJC with the fortitude to moderate these comments and keep them on subject?
This is very sad indeed. I took Barnes and Lisa to dinner once and it was fabulous. It was the best $1,700 I ever spent. At those prices I just couldn’t afford to invite Leslie and Crash. Sad to say I’m broke now and eat most my meals at either Huddle House or QT.
It was always a tradition for my grandmother to treat us somewhere fancy in Atlanta. This was something that she liked to do, I can remember my very first trip to the Ritz Carlton in Detail even though it was almost 20 years ago. I was only 5 years old at the time. I had recently graduated from modeling and social graces class. I was so proud to be able to use my “new manners”. When asked what I wanted for lunch, I replied : ” Peanut Butter and Jelly, ” as any five year old would do. I did not get to eat Peanut Butter and Jelly that trip, but I did get a gourmet pizza and it was delicious. I also got a rasberry torte with chocolate sauce that was in the shape of a heart. Which by in far was the most fancy thing that I had ever seen. Going to the Ritz Carlton was a very neat experience for me and I wish all of the employees the best of luck!
Let’s hope it’s the Varsity that’s the replacement. Also the W/H would work out well to. This could give some of us that are job-hunting,another place to look for work.
It was a nice place…to look at. But I remember the first time I went there; I treated an out-of-town guest. After we got through eating those little medallions of meat, two springs of asparagus (or whatever), etc., and I’d paid $300.00 (not that my stomach noticed), we left and went to another restaurant, so we could get a real plate of food and EAT!
Bruno Menard, It was great hearing from you. You are indeed, by far the best chef in the planet! Your fusion cuisine is unparallel! Although the service remained the same after you left, the culinary experience was not the same. I hope one of this days you decide to come back to the ATL! We miss you Bruno.
I love the comments! The ATL… “The all about me town.” This TOWN praises, discusses and writes about mediocrity like there is no tomorrow. What a joke.
For those that think Atlanta is not Ghetto, where have you been? If thats who the city “markets” towards and wants to become, then let the inhabitants of the Ghetto have it. The rest of us will spend our $$ in the suburbs.
In 2001, my husband and I took my mom, dad and our 2 kids to The Dining Room to celebrate my mother’s 80th birthday. It was a fabulous evening. My boys, now 25 and 28, still talk about the experience as one of those watershed moments in their teens. Both are determined to do well in life in order to have the ability to enjoy that kind of service and that kind of food again.
I ate there one night, but I was too high on drugs to remember what I had or if what I had was was any good. Whitney was smoking crack, so she stayed in the car and hit the pipe the whole time.
Respectfully submit, I like the coziness of the original Alon. However, it can become too cozy, actually cramped inside at peak times, not to mention the limited parking. The large chunk chocolate chip pecan cookies somehow always go home with me no matter what the reason for the trip. Every time.
I think I ate there one time but I reallly can’t remember but I can ramble on about it for awhile except I don’t really remember if I ate there but it was really good and I think I ate there.
I dined one time at the RC. The food was slow in being delivered, was less than warm when it finally did arrive, and rather bland in taste. Of course this was 20 years ago. I never bothered to dine again.
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Nya Nya ne Nya Nya!!! I was at the LRB (License Review Board) on another matter the other night and lo and behold Chef Antunes appeared with his legal counsel to explain to the board why Joel had gone without a license for 2 years! He was very apologetic to the members of the board and one of the board members said what a great restaurant Joel’s was and that it was truly one of Atlanta’s best. In the end the board recommended a heavy fine and warned Chef Antunes not to err again! I believe the board minutes are available to the public on one of the City’s websites, but I might be wrong. The board meeting was on September 8th.
I slit an old girlfriend’s throat in that restaurant when she flirted with the busboy! Then I killed his ass too! Then I went and played a round of golf to unwind.
for those of you who think it was to expensive or the food wasn’t good it probably not the right place for you to go eat. I’m sorry atlanta but to let these high end places go is going to affect the dining in this city for years to come. To answer someone’s comment earlier there was a $69 3-coarse menu last summer and nobody new about it I don’t think that’s the people who are losing there jobs fault which is sad and the to close it is worse than not promoting it. Try and get a world class dining expirence for that kind of money. Just face it as the general american public growing up on microwave pizza even though now it is organic it is still microwave pizza, how could you even hope to understand the food that was on the plates in front of you in this restaraunt.. Get some culture, or at least try to appreciate someone who is trying to give you some..
I will definitely never forget the Dining Room. It has been my destination for my birthday and anniversary dinner for years and so sad to know that we can’t celebrate our anniversary this year and in the future.
For those absurd comment and fake comments… you guys are just jealous that you never experience the whole concept & the most wonderful service. Talking about $500 for dinner?? Pleaseeee we went to the DR many times and our bills never that expensive. Whether if we dine at Bachanallia, Craft, Joel, etc.. they’re about the same price anyway.
I am glad I had the opportunity to experience it & best wishes to all the staff.
Looking forward to see you guys next friday for my last DR experience or maybe We will come twice for Oct 1st finale!!
Definitely will never go back to Joel anymore. Definitely not a true french since Chef Joel left. Pizza in the menu? pleaseee..
It took me forever to get the server attention for my cocktail order. My bloody marry was crappy (I asked and it came from the pre-mix bottle), overpriced wine with snobby somellier, and we waited so long to get our food (on top of our overcooked wine, and my fishy seabass) very disappointed!!
We’re in tough economic times people. I find the best mojito, Manhatten, and margarita are all avilable in one place–my house.
That’s right, I can make gallons of superior mojito for the cost of one night at any of these bars. It’s going to be some white rum, mulled mint from the farmer’s market, a little simple syrup, and probably a splash of soda water for fizz.
Workingmom- before you’re so quick to criticize maybe you should check Friday’s updates, where it IS pointed out that Joel is once again serving alcohol.
Wait, wait Buzzer … are you telling me that “Chef Anthunes” (Joel Anthunes himself) flew over from London where he is working now to “apologize” about the license situation to the LRB? Hmmm, moreover he and the “Joel” restaurant company didn’t exactly parted ways amicably, so I doubt it he was he who showed up at the hearing. It may have been the new chef Cyril.
The explanation for losing the license is pretty straightforward: Joel Anthunes was on the license, he left the restaurant in 2007 to go to NY (Oak Room) and someone in the Joel’s “legalites” forgot to notify the LRB and they lost the license.
Atlanta Guy: I agree with you about La Grotta. My family and I have been going there for 20 years for special occasions and every time was always a great experience. And much like any fine dining establishment if you didn’t see anything that just jumped out at you on the menu they would do a made-to-order dish if you asked.
As to my memories of the Ritz. I can’t say I ever had dinner there. However, when I was a teenager and had a facination with tea, my mom took me for tea at the Ritz around the holidays. It was an experience I will remembr for all my life. It was just the 2 of us and we had the usual acompaniments of scones, tarts, sugar cubes, ect. There was a piano playing in the background and very warm fire buring. Both mad for an ideal atmosphere. I’ve often told my mom that we should do that again sometime. If we don’t though, I will make sure to take my child/children for that experience.
@ AJC and Meredith Ford, if you cant moderate your own fking forum perhaps you should remove the comment section. At this point all you are doing is providing a forum for racists and internet trolls to express their social retardation.
Nope, it was him for sure. I remember seeing him at the restaurant two years ago. The new chef Cyril Hoalata is recognizable from the television and print articles he has done. It has to be that Joel is still tied to this restaurant, otherwise why would he appear???
OK, Buzzer, I believe you now. Maybe, Joel came to help his buddy Cyril out. In any event, I am afraid that this place is doomed. I would be surprised if it stays open much longer. Too bad, I had some great lunches and dinners there.
I think Atlanta as a foodie town is doomed! What we should expect is for all the fine restaurants such as Joel, Bacchanalia, BLT, Sean Doherty to close and in their place maybe a few Burger Kings, Chic-Fil-A’s, and a Varsity or two. Heck BK all ready has a mean “Angus Burger” which would qualify it to 95% of Atlanta as fine dining. It would be fitting for Atlanta to step back in time and not move forward.
Yo Mikel…Wattup playa! I be wit you on dis bruh! Dem peoples dat be comin on dis here bode needs to 86 dis racial playa hatin! You know what I’m sayin? I be offensive by all dis frontin be goin on rite here on dis bode. Holla at a brutha!!!
Holla at a brutha!!! By the way, why can’t we black people speak English properly like all other human beings? Are we genetically incapable (not intelligent enough) or are we just too lazy? Hmmm.
“with travel restrictions lifted, why not try the motherland version of cuban food?”
The travel restrictions were only lifted for Cuban-Americans, not the rest of us. And when I visited Cuba (legally) a couple of years ago, the Cuban sandwiches there were terrible, because of the lack of good quality ingredients.
Wraps in Kennesaw ! Dont expect much customer sevice o rather waitress service ,but the food has an authentic puertorican flavor.The food is well presented when service and the price is right !
Pasteles with some pasteles and a side of pasteles! Pasteles (for the uninitiated) are like tamales but MUCH more flavorful. Goya sells a prepared version (Um, not my favorite) but the best pasteles come wrapped in banana leaves with an outer wrap of freezer paper and tied with string. Boil ‘em for an hour and enjoy with a touch of pique.
If there is a doubt regarding all of the really positive comments, my suggestion for the doubt-ters is to try these cupcakes out for yourselves…these things are awesome…and once you try them, I’ll bet you will join the parade of satisfied customers.
The Dining Room closed because the food was subpar. The service had slipped considerably, too. I am the only one who could have salvaged this once-proud kitchen. Now, it reminds me of The Spaghetti Warehouse . Recently, I had a meal with several of my chef friends at The Dining Room and I was frankly embarrassed. The food was mediocre and the service was not much better. I offered to come in and save the place, but they were not willing to meet my price. So, they lose and Atlanta loses! I tried!
Yo Emeril. What’s so bad about da Spagetti Wearhouse? You a hata you sorry ass fat-boy! What happened to your restarant that wuz here in the ATL. That sh**ty ass place closed, ain’t it? Quit dissin’ the Spagetti Waerhouse hata!
Pinon (line over first “n”). It’s a lot like a lasangna but fried, ripe plantains substitute the pasta. The sweetness of the plantains with the saltiness of the beef, ah, just planly heavenly.
Even though I have no children, this is something I am in favor of. It seems like such a no-brainer to put into practice the good eating habits we all know we follow while the kids are in school. Plus it is very hypocritical for the Government to say that we need to follow this food guideline then feed kids in school what they feed them!
There is no way that the school lunch is healthy and balanced meal. I remember what kind of crap I had to eat when I went to school.
STAN,
in addition to improving the lunch menu, they need to bring recess back!! a lot of the kids are overweight borderline obese due to inactivity and poor eatin’ habits.
Why is it the government’s responsibility to feed school children? Making a sandwich and adding a piece of fruit or carrot sticks is not that difficult. If parents are really concerned about what their child is eating let them send lunch with their child.
I was lucky. My mom stayed at home growing up and would make my brother and I lunch while we ate breakfast. Something needs to be done about lunch in public schools. I wouldn’t feed that to my dogs.
Julie, you are naive. While I assume that you have enough money, time, knowledge and energy to put together a lunch every day, other parents may not. We live in a nice area (East Cobb) and I make lunch almost every day, but many of my kids’ friends buy lunch. Some parents either don’t have time or money to make a healthy lunch every day, and they rely on the school to provide that. The point of this story is that the school promotes that they provide a healthy lunch every day, and they really don’t.
Study after study, example after example shows that when kids (and adults) eat healthy foods, they are smarter, able to pay attention better, get into less trouble (i.e. less violent), and of course healthier. If everyone could be healthier, we’d all be better as a society and what better time to start this than in childhood? The sad thing is that some parents are lazy and permissive, and throw fits whenever someone tries to change things for the better.
Hormone-free milk and organic strawberries. Nothing like taking an inherently sensible idea like improving the nutritional quality of school lunches and letting someone from the idiot fringe lead the charge.
I think this is a wonderful initiative, Meridith. So many schools around the nation and in the Metro Atlanta Area have free or reduced lunch for the majority of their kids. So, while some moms think the government shouldn’t worry, other moms send their children to school knowing they’ll at least have something to eat for breakfast and lunch. These are the parents who are working 2-3 jobs just to provide the minimum for their children, and I think their kids deserve vegetables just as much as the kid whose mom packs it for them.
Yes, my mom packed my lunch almost every day until the end of high school. You know what happened freshman year of high school when I decided I wanted to eat from the cafeteria? I gained 20 pounds because of the crap they were serving (and I probably didn’t even realize what I was eating). I think it would benefit so many people if we did a farms to cafeteria initiative in Georgia. Yes, it would cost the schools more money to fix (energy, gas, etc.) and yes, it would make Lunchlady Linda do a little more than warm things up, but wouldn’t it also fill bellies better and keep them more alert? Instead of having a Coke and a bag of chips for lunch, what about some protein-packed grilled chicken and summer vegetables? Maybe even a baked potato?
I think this will be a long, hard fight, but if this lady has already done it in other cities, she can certainly do it here. Keep us updated, Meridith.
Not only does it discussed me what our children our eating at school it saddens me to know that if a child doesn’t have thier lunch money they can not have what the other kids are eating…they get thrown a peanut butter sandwich instead. Convicted Felons eat for free on our dime better than our children do.
What is this, amateur hour? I can just look at that sandwich and smoker and tell you flat out; that BBQ doesn’t hold a snowball’s chance in hell against my daddy’s BBQ. I bet the new chef doesn’t even make the sauce…. No ‘chef’ can ever cook BBQ right, BBQ is best done by someone who calls themself a ‘cook’.
that is the million dollar question!! that is the problem that i have with most democrats. they expect the govt. to feed their kids, educate their kids, babysit their kids via after school care. why don’t these parents think about all of these consequences when they are leavin’ the club with the stranger because he bought you two drinks and go home and have babies.
You go Ann. This is a powerfully important issue. Big business and lobbyists are interfering with the right of children to eat a nutritional meal. To those of you asking the question about why should the government provide lunch, you clearly don’t have children or a clue. Remember, they are required to go to school. Are you suggesting they not be fed between 8:30a and 3:00p? I’m not suggesting the schools be parents. But a little common sense should prevail. Lunch should be lunch, not chips, cookies, reprocessed, high calorie, high fat, low nutrition, LOW COST items. And yes hormone free and organic foods make sense. Kids don’t need any more exposure to pesticides, hormones, chemicals, etc., all used in food processing for one reason — to enhance the bottom line of the producer. I have three children and pack their lunches every day because I cannot let them eat what Aramark serves in our district. Believe it or not they serve a white bread hot dog bun, drizzled with 1.5 ounces of cheese product and a side of tomatoe sauce and call it an Italian Dunker. I’ve seen many children as young as 1st graders with only the “dunker” and a milk on their tray. How can a child perform in school, let alone thrive on a hot dog bun for lunch. No vegetables, no fruits and in many cases, not even opening the tomatoe sauce for dunking. Your tax dollars are paying for that. Wouldn’t you rather the money be used for a healthy lunch which leads to a healthy society? Packing lunch every morning is extra work but I know my kids are getting wholesome food and creating healthy eating habits that will last a lifetime, helping to lower healthcare costs for everyone including niquoo and Julie who interjected in a converation that clearly doesn’t concern them with their crass, ridiculous and off-base comments above. Unfortunately, some parents don’t have the means or opportunity do pack lunches for their children so niquoo and Julie get to buy them a white bread hot dog bun. Dig in.
I would suggest Jill doesn’t regularly frequent McDonalds or Wendys because she’s making better food choices. We’ll see who becomes a drain on the government and the rest of us who make healthy choices for ourselves.
If you can’t afford to bring money, they will give you lunch at a reduced rate that you can afford. If you repeatedly “Forget” to send money with your child because your $600/mo Tahoe payment is stretching your Child Support money thin, then they eat PB&J. (minus the J because that is bad for them)
Some of your comments would be taken more seriously if they were correctly written and spelled – I’m wondering if any of you actually WENT to school, much less ate the lunches. The schools feed my children when they are there because I pay taxes. The law requires that a child attend school (unless rigorous home-school standards are met) and that required time includes at least one traditional meal time – lunch. Therefore, that lunch should at least be up to the standard of a jail meal. And due to peanut allergies, even the ol’ PB&J is on the endangered list. Let’s feed the kids real food… Why is it even a question?
i just get sooo tired of people wanting the gov’t to take care of their every need. sure, maybe some of your needs like the military, police, etc. but now the kids?
i read an article about 2 weeks ago and it said that in the near future school were going to the year round schedule because so many kids go hungry during the summer!! WTF!! Not a year-round schedule to help kids compete globally, but so they do go hungry during the summer.
Go Ann. You are on the right track and doing it for the right reasons. Common sense always prevails in the end. There are many of us out here working on the grassroots level and are inspired by you.
If you don’t like the food the cafeteria serves, then get out of bed early and make YOUR child a tasty, nutritious lunch, just like my mother did and she worked!! How lazy are you? Take personal responsibility and stop blaming the schools for feeding your kids.
are you suggesting that knowing how you will support your kids before you have them is not common sense? if your salary says that you can only afford to FEED on child at home and SCHOOL, why would you have 3 and hope the gov’t can bail you out.
@ Julie: The reason why the government has stepped in and provides school lunch goes back to decades old research that links good nutrition to educational performance. In short, kids that were malnourished experienced a reduced capacity to learn and perform well in the classroom. While many would question this “government responsibility”, the bottom line is that having an educated and literate population benefits all Americans and is one of the key factors that continues to separate the USA from developing countries. So, I’m all for improving the quality and nutrition of school lunches and I’m in favor of subsidizing the cost for those families that cannot afford to provide a healthy lunch for their school age children if for no other reason than for the sake of pure, unadulterated, dog-eat-dog capitalism in the present day global economy.
Great program. Schools don’t let elementary age children decide which subjects to study and they shouldn’t let them decide to eat chips and cookies for lunch, but that happens every day and is funded by tax dollars. Our tax dollars should be put to better use and nutritional food that can help kids thrive should be served. They learn about the food pyramid in class. Let’s have those food groups represented on their lunch trays as well. The fresher, healthier, more organic and sourced close to home the better. Keep up the good work.
“I’d rather fight for hormone-free milk and organic strawberries”
As long as this whackadoo fights that fight in Boulder & stays far far away from me & mine, I’ll consider it her business. It’s occasionally cute to see what the lunatic fringe is doing but hopefully you won’t waste blog space with such drivel very often.
Our high school offers 3-5 choices every day, and the line for pizza and fries is always the longest – in fact, the length of the line is usually inversely proportional to the nutritional quality of the meal.
I think schools could and should provide much healthier meals – and ought to get rid of all the sugary breakfast foods – but they claim the kids won’t eat healthy food.
Some people are confusing downtown with Buckhead, others are mplying that certain remarks coded racism against blacks while making snarky comments about Arabs. And many are confusing the Café with the Dining Room. The latter is on the second floor, not on the ground floor. It is obvious that many who commented have never eaten there. To get to the point, yes, it was expensive. But even with the high prices, I find it hard to see how one could spend $800 on dinner for two there, unless one drank prodigious amounts of The DRs more costly wines. I was privileged to dine at The Dining Room over the tenure of three chefs, the most memorable being Chef Arnaud Berthelier. My job allowed me to eat in fine restaurants all over the country and In many mediocre ones, too. The Dining Room was uniquely special
and I found the staff to be attentive, engaged in their duties and finely attuned to the comfort of their guests. The chef, maître d , waiter and sommelier each signed our menus and sent us home eith freshly-baked Madeleines in a little parchment-paper pyramid, to enjoy with our morning coffee the next day. What a pity that Atlantans and suburbanites don’t seem to appreciate some of the finer things that the city has to offer. The bad economy was the death knell for The Dining Room. My hat is off to Chef Berthelier, maître d’hôtel Guillaume, the sommelier and the waitstaff. Thanks to the friends I dined with for many superb memories! The Ritz-Carlton brand is part and parcel of Atlanta and I’ll be eagerly watching to see what their second act will be for this space inside the RC Buckhead.
What a ridiculous comment from Julie. That argument is akin to saying, “Why worry that there are guns and drugs in public schools? IF you don’t like it, just send your kid to private school.” It’s conveniant to think that people who don’t like school lunches can just make their own at home and, if they are not doing so, it is because they’re lazy. The truth is that more than one million children go hungry in the U.S. daily. Simply by luck of birth, you and I were not one of them.
Jill, all parents have to do is fill out the free lunch forms. If your income is below about 40000$ with 4 people, you get free lunch. Maybe higher. If you cannot pay your child’s lunch but you make too much money for free lunch, realign your priorities. Or put together a lunch for them.
Last year was the first one where we did not continue to let kids charge their meals. We had kids owing hundreds of dollars each year–nearly $100000 the year before at our school alone. You wanna pay taxes on that? As we teachers had urged, last year they cut the food back to sandwich and milk and found that it took care of 98% of the problem. Amazing. Either the money was found and paid or the parent filled out and qualified for free lunch.
Our lunches provide way too much meat based proteins, usually baked (fried) food, heavily breaded. I can’t stand it. They do give the kids many more choices, but it is frequently prepackaged “food product”.
I was required to eat school food growing up. The idea was that I would be exposed to more types of food, but I just couldn’t eat the stuff–overcooked/undercooked/greasy/salty. My children also grew up eating school lunch except on days when they couldn’t stand the food (ie, tacos). Then, they made their own lunch.
Each school used to be allowed to plan and order its own food. We ate so much better–mashed potatoes with milk, for example. One time it was my kindergarten class’ turn. One of my boys wanted us to get deer meat–he even volunteered that he and his dad could bring in 5 or 6 deer–enough to feed the school of 300.
Not sure where the $50 million number comes from. But that is only $1 more per child for less than two days of the school year… 30 million children participate in the National School Lunch Program each of the 180 days of the school year. $50 million will have next to no impact. You need an additional $4 to $5 billion per year to make an impact on what is served. And for the record, the school lunch at my son’s school in Virginia is awesome: $2.00 per day for confetti barley salad, fresh pear, carrots, and skim milk. He loves it and so do I! Thank you to the Lunch Ladies for all you do!
@R.Davis, thank you..I don’t have any children, but I do have 2 “adopted” grandchildren and I go to eat lunch with them about every two weeks..The food that they are served is not to bad..Still, I see a lot of kids that don’t eat any of it..
I don’t want to say that it’s all kids, but some just don’t eat even if the food taste good..I see kids that bring a lunch from home and they don’t eat either..So if this lady can help do something with the lunches that will make the kids eat better, I’m all for it..
AlexDad, I have a sister that lives in VA and she has told me several times that lunches in school there have always been better..She had 3 children that went to school there and they alwyas loved the lunches that were served..
As for all of the talk about kids getting free lunches, just about everyc child gets that..I had custody of my 2 great nieces last year and with the SS and V.A. money, plus my salary, they both were still able to recieve free lunches..
The one thing that I would like to know though, is why do they offer the kids a salad, but they don’t let them have salad dressing? That’s just me wondering..
Let them have it that way. Most of the people in this town don’t know what bbq is anyway. For those of us that like bbq, we know where to get it. If I am not cooking at home, I like Fox Bros.
I go to Madisonville TN, ( Sweetwater exit to bloody 411, then north ) about 3 times a year and buy 10lbs of bacon at a time…doling it out as bribery to friends, etc. It is without a doubt the best bacon you will ever buy, and yes, these are Iowa hogs he uses ( no small bucolic farm here ) for the job.
I would beg to differ on the hams, though..I have had Kentucky cured hams that are a bit tastier because of the sugar cure used. Benton’s may excel in the smoke department, though.
That fact that they’ve already changed chefs speaks volumes about this ersatz ‘barbecue’ establishment. When every review focuses on how good the veggie options are, you know it’s not BBQ. Perhaps the new guy knows his stuff, but that ’sammie’ doesn’t look so hot.
I think we should start with letting kids see their parents eat better. And yes we should bring recess back. What good is it it preach to the kids about eating better and they see a parent eating the equivalent of 3 days worth of calories in one sitting and staring mindlessly into a tv screen.
As a side note, there’s a really cool new lunch box for helping manage portions and eating healthy. It’s called Basikbox. Basikbox.com. Really innovative in food portioning which is key to eating healthy.
M Ford Goldman, the food expert lets her daughter eat school food? Maybe you can get one of those chefs you suck up to and have them cater school lunch.
Yes Horrace, I let my daughter eat lunch room food. I believe all kids in public schools have the right to a healthy meal. That’s why I support this initiative. And thanks for the tip, but I think I’ll just keep fighting for better school lunches.
I tend to agree with Rollergirl just a bit. It does seem like traditional 5 star dining in this town has become extinct. Folks love their deep fried snickers and jalapeno poppers. I would stick with Rathbuns and JOEL maybe Repast.
The important fact worth reiterating is that we ARE paying for school lunches (taxes!) and they are not nutritionally adequate. In what scenario would anyone pay for something and then not complain when its quality diminishes? Many people here are taking up the argument that parents who want healthy lunch food for their kids are begging for a handout. While some families need assistance, most pay the standard rate. Even so, should children of poor families just starve? Many families need help for many different reasons, but whatever the reason I think it is cruel to overlook the basic needs of our children. The families and community leaders who are pulling together their own resources to help our children deserve our respect and admiration.
FAR too many food memories of my family to write about here (we’re a family-lunch-or-dinner-all-the-time kinda clan) but I distinctly remember
-watching my Mom roll out dumplings with a drinking glass instead of a rolling pin
-every summer, early each day, working in the garden with my Mom and Grandma and then sitting under a shade tree shelling, shucking, or snapping
-jelly making (something I’ve yet to master)
-candy making at Christmas
As for favorite quotes, well … I think the Rhett and Link BBQ Song (go ahead and youtube it) is quite quotable, especially the admonition that “BBQ IS NOT A VERB!”
Pleeease! Taco Bell is not Puerto Rican food! it is Mexican – No where close to the flavors of PR; we have more than five ingredients in our cooking process!! Please try Mojitos in Norcross (Cuban), Havana South (4060 Buford Dr.), and the grandaddy of them all: Las Palmeras in Mid-town!
I have enjoyed some wonderful meals at The Dining room over the years. Yes the service was a bit formal, however it was alway’s very professional. As has already been noted there were a number of world class chef’s who ran the dining room.
Got a Reuben from Muss and Turner. Had half my sandwich and took it back because they forgot the kraut. Muss looked at it as though there was no way I could be telling the truth and then opened up the half spooned some kraut in it and gave it back to the cashier to give it back to me. No apologies or an offer for a sandwich the next time in. 9 bucks for a sandwich with no sides and this is the best he could treat a regular. I can assure you there are better meals for the price and you won’t have to deal with the arrogance of chefs who make sandwiches.
Hey Meridith! Aren’t you on the floor laughing with us, at some of these meatheads! Anyway, we’ve been lontime fans/customers at Sawicki’s in Decatur. Always grab a sandwich to take home!
Jason, you can get the real thing if a Puerto Rican cooks for you (which I’ve done for my fiends). I’ve been to Mi Pilon, and it is really good, and they serve a lot of food for the price you pay. Try Wilo Benet’s cook book “Puerto Rico True Flavors”. It has great tips on how to cook authentic Puerto Rican Food. Buen provecho!
Well said JohnsCreekMom. I simply disregard the comments of folks like many of those posted here. They clearly just like to complain and find fault without ever helping find solutions.
In response to ATL Starter………Chow Chows are little green chunky pickled tomatoes and cabbage mixed-up with a few other goodies that jump on top of your Pinto Beans and take them to the next level.
I had a Benton country ham sent to my family for Christmas last year. My mom apparently served it like a regular ham for Christmas dinner. The ham was so salty that no one could eat it.
I orderd a ham from Benton in 2005. The best I ever had. Still a current customer although I typically
order smaller quantities of sliced pre-packaged. The bacon never equaled the ham in my opinion. One suggestion, either fry the ham slices in coca-cola (for a contrast to the sodium) or in a bit of strong coffee. It is also a knock-out with my infamous tomato gravy on homemade biscuits.
After reading about Allan Benton in Southern Living and the AJC I made a point of stopping in on one of my many family visit trips between Atlanta and Knoxville. I introduced myself to Mr. Benton and told him I’d read about his products. He was so friendly and welcoming but his store is off the beaten path for sure. We’ve only tried the bacon and proscuitto–both were excellent. To Cristo’s point, isn’t country ham *supposed* to be salty?! I have never been a fan of country ham for that reason…
I’m black from South Jersey and I miss authentic Puerto Rican Food. I see I need to do more research-lol seems to be alot of conflict to a fav place. ya’ll keep it up so I can figure it out-lol
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These are cool guys, Jamie & I were friends growing up in Albany. Didn’t know little bro very well but they’ve all done well!! My mom’s fried chicken & cornbread are better than Paula’s though…sorry guys!!
I knew Paula, Bobby and Jamie when I was working front desk for 4yrs (93-97) at the Best Western hotel in midtown Savannah. At that time they were renting the resturant inside the lobby area. I remember Paula getting into it with the owner of the hotel (he was a true A-hole). She left the hotel in 96, got a 150k loan to start Lady in sons in downtown Savh and never looked back. I was like “Go head Paula”. She deserve all her success. Paula and her sons were just sweethearts. I often wonder if they stayed the same.
I had a job associated with the G-8 Summit, which essentially took over Savannah in 2004. And, folks said you have to go to Lady and Sons, and because unwarranted fear of anarchy had emptied the streets, I walked right in and sat down. Bobby came up and talked to me and very gracious even though during the conversation, I said, “I didn’t know Paula Deen had a restaurant.” As a fellow South Georgian of humble beginnings, I’m very happy for their success.
I was able to meet them once at a book signing and they engaged me in conversation without me asking, took pictures with my wife and her friend, and if first impressions mean anything, they seemed like genuinely nice guys. I liked their last book as well, it was basically about tailgating and easy to make items. Stuff guys can make beyond hamburgers and hot dogs that everyone would eat. Hope they do well. Oh, and met their mom once too and she is “what you see is what you get”. I was happy about that, hate meeting people you admire and they turn out to be jerks.
I’ve never met any of the Deen family, but I would imagine that they are all very nice..I have eaten at their restaurant and the food was wonderful..I have one of Paula’s cookbooks and it’s such a great book to cook from..
I’m sure Paula Deen and her sons are fine, and decent people. Having said that, without Ms deen does one think these two men would be writing cook books, going on tour, and having a tv program?
I doubt it very much.
I used to watch the foodnetwork tv channel until they got rid of Emeril, and overdosed on Rachel (yuck) The ace of cakes, and Paula……
The first time I saw them on Paula’s show, I didn’t realize who they were – I thought they were lovers. There’s no doubt that the younger one is gay…even though the older one acts gay.
A friend of mine who runs a shop in Savannah swears they are both gay, with the younger one having a boyfriend. Oh well, they are nice guys. Just watch out with all that fatty cooking, you two will be as big as your momma in 10 years.
I was caught in the mess. It was terrible. Luckily, the traffic was so slow I was able to get breakfast in while sitting there. I had 2 of the best BBQ biscuits you could ever imagine. Yes, BBQ frozen and reheated is still quite good. Let’s just say I could feed a small army with the contents of my freezer. Daddy keeps me stocked….
My youngest son’s roommate in college worked at their Savannah Restaurant–great, wonderful people–wonderful food–and a joy to have them as strong members of the Bulldawg Nation!!
“Puhlease?”, it is clear you have nothing better to do with your time than post hateful comments AND questions on this blog. Don’t you have something better to do with your time? May I suggest a hobby? Maybe something that is actually productive?
Bitter?
What I do with my time is my business. The blogger here has been more than rude to me when I pose a question, or make a remark regarding the content and or quality of certain posts. It is a public forum, meaning anyone can respond. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why this particular blog post is worthy.
Will Y’all please ( not puhlease) leave MFord alone ? She is a very valuable contributor to the food section. ( What is left of it ) Plus she doesn’t get 30 weeks vacation a year like Mr. Kessler.
Puhlease? I was not aware that you are the Blog Police! Maybe people like Tyler Pike have a story to share . . . maybe not everyone hates their life as much as you do.
It would help if you did not engage with those you disagree with…..This person makes a point about being able to respond. If they truly are trying to get under your skin(mford), you would be best served to not exchange barbs with them. So what they are mean and rude? For you to make snide remarks only perpetuates the problem and is rather unprofessional.
Who said anything about blog police? What does Tyler Perry have to do with any of this? I am exercising an option to remark on blog posts. SOMETIMES, I may disagree. If we are all to march in step to what is said here, then we are doomed for a live void of creativity and free thought.
@ Ya know. I’m not being rude. I am being treated rudely…Pay attention.
Tyler Perry? Don’t let your anger affect your ability to read! Just calm down, it’s going to be ok . . . I think everyone’s “live” would be a little better if people like you stuck to being a productive members of society.
I saw Man vs. Food where Adam Richman had like an hour to eat a 6 lb. burrito and couldn’t do it, so no way anyone is eating a 7lb’er in 5 minutes. But it would be fun to watch people try..or maybe a little gross.
I haven’t tried their burrito’s but the taco’s are awesome! My favorites are the fish taco’s and the fried chicken with wing sauce. I look forward to the 7 year celebration.
Enter your comments here I eat @ Twisted all the time. I love their Thai chicken tacos and they have the best salsa I’ve ever eaten. Can’t wait to watch someone try to eat that burrito.
Great topic Meredith! Too bad it brought out idiots that missed the point. Kids deserve better; those that pay and those that don’t. How did a blog entry on healthy school lunches turn into right-wing sewer overflow? It’s especially odd when you consider the socio-economic status of the Morningside parents.
I live just down the street from DBA. I want them to succeed – especially in this space. I’ve eaten there at least 15 times.
The quality of the meat is excellent – but there is no flavor. The sauces are mundane at best. There’s no “signature” to this Q.
Matt needs to dump the “chef” concept – taht isn’t what a BBQ joint is about. He should spend a few days at Fox Bros. or Daddy D’z – The Q is much more flavorful!
Lets hope their cookbook (and show, I’m sure) will feature food you can eat without having an immediate heart attack. Love Paula, but Jeez, does she EVER cook anything healthy?
I would have to add Pizza Fusion (2233 Peachtree Rd in Buckhead) among the best in the city. High quality fresh ingredients (and plenty of them) and a near-perfect crust cooked just right.
as a native New Yorker, i grew up eating the best pizza. When i moved here, i was sorely disappointed in every pizza i tried. Needless to say, chain pizza joints, need not apply, they are all terrible. I looked for the mom and pop shop. Nothing. Then, I came across Cosmo’s Little Italy in the downtown square in Lawrenceville. SOLD. THE BEST PIZZA EVER! this is the closest New York style pizza you can find. And if you are lucky enough, you can sit, eat a slice, and watch Cosmo and his wife fight while making their delicious dishes. Dinner and a show, every time.
I’m coming from New York and must admit the Pizza Bar on Veteran’s Memorial does a darn good job on their pizza. For anyone who has not been there you’re missing a damn good slice of Pizza.
as a new yorker who remembers when a slice was 25 cents, fellini’s has no business on the list. i agree with the other poster take fellini’s off and put mellow mushroom on. fellini’s pizza is awful most of the time. i also second the oz nomination and my personal add is atena in sandy springs to the list. but really there aint no pizza like northeast pizza. chicago second. thats it. fuhgetaboutit!
I have to agree with many of these selections. Of the chains in town, I think fellini’s is definitely the best.
Some of the comments have been added to the list, I’ve yet to make it to Cosmo’s and Vingenzo’s. My experience at Rosa’s was not good, but I need to give it another go.
MFG – Can you confirm that Enrico has left Fritti? Rumor i heard was that he was dipping his dough in the Fritti flour…
Mellow Mushroon varies greatly location to location. On average Fellini’s is better. The Mellow on Roswell RD does have good dough. I agree it isn’t the best. I get calzones or a salad at Fellini’s.
As an ex-New Yawker there are two great shops in Marietta, one is Saporito’s on Roswell Road (East Lake Shopping Center) and the other Capozi’s on Sandy Plains Rd. Note to Annie – please go to either and try a real slice of pizza. If you think All Star should even be on here, sweetie, you ain’t never had a pizza!
Check out Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw off of Jiles Road. If you and one other person order their “huge” pizza (it costs $50), then you get $250. This is a big honking pizza though. Great service too!
Unique’s pizza on Ponce is by far the best and nobody knows about it so it’s never too busy. they only do pick up and delivery though so you can’t eat inside which sucks. But they are right across from the ghetto kroger and the clairmont.
Buckhead Pizza Co on Peachtree (near Grand Hyatt and Realm Condos) is a great place to get pizza. Great bar too. I think they have only been open for less than a year.
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WOW! I can’t believe nobody has even mentioned one of the greatest Pizza Institutions in Atlanta that has been around for years!!! EVERYBODY’S PIZZA!! Hello????
question? who here has actually worked in a restaurant? for a significant period of time? i thought so… so why don’t you go work in a restaurant for a while? what’s that you say? too important to work in a restaurant? I thought so.
I second Bobby’s mention of Buckhead Pizza Co. in Buckhead! I’m a pizza fanatic and I’ve had some good ones all around town, but I’m definitely a fan of this place. They’ve got good pizza and other entrees as well! I would definitely suggest trying it out. I live in Brookhaven and will bypass Mellow Mushroom any day just to go to Buckhead Pizza Co. instead!!
Asked for favorite restaurant, not food… Salsa con Sabor IS CLOSED! We stopped going there after tried it 3 times w/new owner, and was horrible!!! Every time I have gone to Mi Pilón (all 3-4, no more please), food maintained on heating trays was cold, pernil, etc. served from them was heated in microwave (right in front of my eyes…). How dangerous!!!! Food not kept at proper temps… Not to mention, they usually didn’t have our first choice request… Other than these…, ummm, this one… there are no PR restaurants in Atlanta!!!! Years ago…, many… wonderful Puerto Rican restaurant on Johnson Rd (off Briarcliff), in the 80’s I believe, was the first one! I’ve been searching since 1971!!!!
Boy am I late to this party! Sheesh – you’d think the topic was BBQ the way folks are commenting!
Anyway – couldn’t agree with you more re: Fritti. Simply wonderful (and even though it’s not pizza, it must be mentioned that I’m still lamenting the fried smelt – hasn’t been on the menu for years).
Bombay Grill definately NOT one of them–this place gets worse everytime (not going there anymore) service horrible, EXTREMELY gross, dirty chairs, tables, clothes etc. Also a rip off—just horrible management IMO.
I appreciate everyones comments. Drew has a tremendous amount of experience and passion for BBQ. He has been cooking BBQ at competitions and his BBQ was featured at The Albert during his tenure there. I don’t believe that his talent is discredited because he has diverse experience. I hope you will come try his style at D.B.A. FYI, Steve Bucalo, who runs the kitchen at Fox Bros. was the chef de cuisine after Drew at Kevin Rathbun Steak, and he does a great job at Fox Bros.
Ms. Goldman–in your Lazeez Tava Fry review, you said something about “Hindi dietary restrictions.” Hindi is a language, Hindu is a faith. You are not smart.
Paula Deen is one of the nicest, most real persons you could ever meet…even off stage she is a real sweetie. Cooked with her on her show ( from audience) and then on stage with her during book tour.
America could use more real folks like the Deen Family!
And please, could we all just GET over the “who is gay and who is not” discussion….AARGGHHH!
Jim Warren,
So, you’re saying her boys couldn’t be “the nicest, most real persons” or “real folks” in America if they were gay? What if they are gay and proud of it?
What’s your problem besides anger? What’s your problem with gays? Latent tendencies bothering you?
Bombay Grill, 100% agree blake. This place is extremely gorss, dirty and horrible service. They served me Frazan-vegi smelling compare to sewer. Will never go there and no-one should ever try.
I cannot claim to have made an exhaustive survey, but for over 20 years through changes in ownership, Himalayas in Chamblee has served up tasty fare with good service.
I have not tried Zyka, but I keep driving by. Based on Dave’s comment, I will give it a try.
I heard an interview with Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull once where he stated they always end their tout in Cal. (LA, I think) so he can eat the curry there. The reason he ends the tour is that he cannot perform for a few days afterwards. I’ve wondered what place that was over the years.
The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.
Swapna off Cobb Parkway. Himalayas shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence. Swapna is the real deal and has the best lunch buffet in Atlanta. Don’t be intimidated by the line out the door because they turn tables with ease. Happy dining.
Saw them in person at a cooking show last year and laughed so hard my sides hurt by the end of the show….and got several great recipes on top of that! Who could ask for more?
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Jason: u are correct – all the good Latino restaurants in ATL are basically Cuban, but when you can’t get the real thing, Cuban will have to do…and please don’t change my name to Anglo: Martha, it is MARTA!! With a roll on the RRRRRR
WHO CARES IF THEY ARE GAY OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE 2 NICE GUYS. ENOUGH OF THE NEGATIVE STUFF. THEY WHERE RAISED RIGHT , A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOVE FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THAT ABOUT THEIR KIDS.
Okay, so what if they are successful because of their mother? That’s America. And that shouldn’t take away fromt the fact that they have a great presence (in person and on tv). I have met them and they seem to be genuinely nice people. Genuinely hot, nice men. With accents. And that’s hotter than a plate of fried chicken any day!
I’ve known their father(Jimmy Dean) for a long while here in Albany, and I assure you these young men are not gay. We are very proud of their success along with the lovely Paula. Give um hell boys.
So sad to see the unnecessary commentary. People pay $500-$800 dollars for dinner for the experience and to be treated well, in addition to eating food that is extraordinary. Besides it’s a free country and why should any indiviual care how another spends their money.
My husband and I have had very good experiences at the DR. One of the best meals we’ve ever had was a white truffle tasting menu. We compare most other fine dining to that one meal. I can’t remember if the chef was Arnaud Berthelier or Bruno Menard. But both chefs were wonderful.
I will miss having the opportunity to get dressed up (jacket required), enjoy a long, peaceful, quiet meal and be in the company of others that chose to spend their time and money that way as well.
And, so many wonder why Americans are so fat or obese. That is way too much food to eat at any one time by one individual. May Twisted Taco also needs to be willing to pay for a trip to the SICU when a contestant has a heart attack from all the fat, salt, grease and cholesterol!
The Grey Goose martini, straight up, 3 olives, slice of lime, shaken, no stirred at the Blue Ribbon Grill is not only the best, but the most LETHAL in the city!!!!!!
I would love to know which of these comments was made by a person who actually has eaten at DBA in the past two weeks? the comments make it obvious none of you have. I’ve been there and it was fantastic…everyone who was in there had nothing but great reviews and were happy to finally have BBQ that tastes great (they dont just claim Fox bros is the best sicne thats the closest one to them).
It is sad to see that people read something in the paper and instead of being supportive of restaurants trying to improve, they post messages about the differences between “chefs” and “cooks”. Guess what guys…the average customer could care less what you call yourself, as long as you make great food. I’m sure the editors feel great knowing their readers consist of people who very much lack the respect for what their goal is – to provide Atlantans with the happenings in the area.
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Interesting how many idiots will actually take the time to write a comment on the blog board but not even try the food. FYI – there is alot of good BBQ in Atlanta. And alot of it is done by guys with culinary experience. To say that people in this town don’t know good BBQ is definitely the sign of a fast food junkie with no class. Try the BBQ at DBA and then write about it.
I agree that food in the cafe should be healthy but the reality is that it is not. As parents, we should fight for better food for our children. I am in complete agreement that something should be done in the school system. However, this is not something that is going to change tomorrow. Our goal as parents is to teach these young people to make good choices. If the choice for healthy food is not available at school then you should make it available. Fight the fight but make the poor kid a good lunch. I refuse to let my children eat that crap. Our bodies are machines if you don’t put the correct fuel in ….. the don’t run properly. Make your daughter a lunch….better yet teach her how. My children are 10 and 12 they can make their own lunches and they do.
I’ll buy any New Yorker pizza who agrees to stop talking about New York. If it is so much better there why are you here? Either it is actually better in Atlanta or you are too much of a loser to stay in New York (if it is the better place).
Bambinellis around Northlake best meatball pie in town. BTW I ain’t from NYC but you guys that think pizza is just pizza really have not had good pizza yet. “Pizza is the food of the gods”. Also having been up to NYC for more than a few times , the pizza up there has the same problem as the BBQ places here. The good ones are becoming harder to find.
BIG PIE IN THE SKY, is my personal favorite. As a former Bostonian who grew up bordering Little Italy I grew up on real Italian Pizza and Big Pie Delivers. For a real treat come to Cobb County and taste the real deal.
I have been to 49 states and have found great pizza everywhere, including Atlanta. I have always found an excellent slice anytime I want it here. Camelli’s, Rosa’s, Fritti, all excellent. I have been to New York a hundred times for work and with my eyes closed, I wouldnt know the difference between a ‘New York’ slice and one from the places above. I’m no ingredient expert, but I am pretty sure you can get the same ingredients to make ‘authentic’ pizza in Atlanta, as you can in New York….By the way Chicago pizza is the terrible. Who wants to eat a pizza 2.5 inches thick? The last ime I was there for work, a co-worker stated “you are about to taste ‘real’ thin pizza.” I swear it was Digiorno think crust pizza cut into squares. Squares???
Il Fornos in lawrencevillre at five forks is agreat little pizza cafe. calizone is wondrful but its fun to watch Jack the cook toss pies when he is working. Todd and Donna the owners always have a friendly greet. Very good food.
Heyjude: I agree. The masses have missed a long time pizza restaurant in Everybody’s! Since 1970, we’ve been going to both locations at Emory and Va-Highland. My niece and her family relocated from Baltimore 2 yrs ago and lamented that there was not a good pizza place here….until we took them to Everybody’s! Now we take them there for their monthly fix!
The lunch special (personal pizza, and drink for $6-7) is a great deal unless you want a major chow down. The Italian sausage is the best in ATL, except for E 48th Street Market’s in Dunwoody. Salads are huge also. Try their homemade Parmessan dressing. YUM!
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Best “deep dish/Chicago style pizza” is Pies On Pizza with locations in Fayeteville and Lovejoy (the Greek Salad is pretty awesome too!!!)
Out here in the ‘burbs it’s hard to beat Mellow Mushroom at both of their locations on 141. In addition, I recently had a pie from Murray’s in a Hurry on P’Tree Industrial and, for the money, it was surprisingly good.
After 30 years, I moved my pizza restaurant from lower Manhattan to north Atlanta. Backed up a truck and loaded everything, including ingredients, supplies, ovens–even a large supply of New York water (as NY water has always been viewed as a secret ingredient that makes New York pizza what it is). When I opened my restaurant here, I made the pizza the same, using the same ovens, etc. Guess what! Transplanted New Yorkers would say it was good, but not as good as New York pizza. Then I would tell them my story.
I have to say that this family is the real deal. Paula Deen is true to her word & as far as I can tell,she has not changed one bit. She came from hard knocks & she never gave up..that is what I love about her. Is she perfect, no, but she struggled; nothing given to her like the other so called chefs they keep showing on food network. Her sons are just as hard working as she is; so what if they are riding her coat tails; I bet if you were as successful as she, you would be right behind your Momma too! You go Paula & you keep gong Jamie & Bobby!!! True southern people!!
When the AJC is not stealing articles from every other metro paper, they’re begging for comments. At least 2 times a week when i’m reading it, i find some typo, and i’m not even that smart. I don’t look for them, they are just so obvious. I usd to love the ajc but it has turned into a total piece of crap.
Dino’s Pizza on the corner of Hamilton Mill/Ridge Rd on the Kroger shopping center…fresh dough flown in from Brooklyn NY daily, absolutely the best sausage pizza in this area…the garlic knots are killer too!!!
I grew up in Augusta in the 60s and 70s, and to me, Paula Deen represents the good ol’ gal persona I grew to know and love. She was the woman who taught me Sunday school, or who talked to me in line at the grocery store about fried okra. She was the librarian who helped me find just the right book to read on a hot summer day. Or, if I was lucky, she invited me to her home to eat absolutely delicious traditional Southern food. I love Paula’s cooking, but in her personality I recognize many of the Southern women of my childhood, who were funny, nurturing, smart, and sassy. I miss them all.
Nancy’s is pretty good. I don’t understand why everyone raves about Fritti’s?! I went with a large group and we shared multiple pizzas – they were all slightly overdone with the toppings sparsely applied. It seems more like a status restaurant than a place with good pizza. I’ve had better pizza at California Pizza Kitchen and that’s sad.
Felini’s sucks!!! One of the best pizza places that I have found in Metro Atlanta has to be Baby Tomm’y’s in Marietta. You can order by the slice, however they do not have rice balls. Cannot seem to find a pizza place in the south that has rice balls.
Zpizza in the Alpharetta area has the most tasty and creative pizza around. It’s available as slices and they make combos where you can match a slice with a salad or soup if you want.
Tin crust that is super crispy,yummy yummy.
I don’t really get the rave about Fritti. Went there and the pizza was less than desirable. Soggy crust and sparse toppings. Mellow Mushroom is too doughy. Guess I just don’t like “Southern pizza” as that’s their claim to fame. Will have to try the ones that have been mentioned by other posters. Looking for the thin, crispy crust.
Taste of Italy in Woodstock. You know when a plain cheese pizza has excellent flavor, the fresh toppings are just a bonus. These people are true Italians who came here from southern Italy and barely speak our language, but wow, the pizza!
SLICE-O-RAMA on Hwy. 78 in Stone Mountain in front of the Lowe’s shopping center has the best NY style slices I have had! And on Thursdays, you can get cheese slices for a buck.
Nothing beats Cosmos Little Italy in Lawrenceville and even if it wasn’t the best pizza around, it would still be worth the trip just for the experience of seeing Cosmo and his wife. I’ll admit that I’m just a little bit scared every time I go up to place my order! …NO PIZZA FOR YOU!
You haven’t had pizza until you’ve gone to Fini’s in Lawrenceville. By the slice, or by the pie. Other than Imo’s in St. Louis, the best I’ve ever had.
Enter your comments here Can someone tell my why New Yorkers have to say, “I;m from NY and…..”? Why does that make them an authority on pizza? New Yorkers claim New York pizza is the best. Thanks for your opinion. So this topic is “Best Pizza,” not “Pizza that tastes most like New York Pizza.”
Enzo’s in Tucker is awesome! Great pizza, huge calzones, and good salads. If you are from up north, you’ll be happy to know they serve birch beer along as well as red cream soda.
Savage Pizza in L5P is the best I’ve ever had in Atlanta…their Mai Pie is TO DIE FOR…I still get my husband to pick it up and bring one to Cumming when he is back in our old ‘hood!!
Please spare us the “as a New Yorker I know pizza better than anyone else” BS. Some of the worst pizza I have had has been there so just because you are from New York gives you no more authority to speak on pizza than anyone else, despite what your arrogance makes you believe.
No Pizza in Georgia compares to LaBella’s in Marietta off Sandy Plains. Rick the owner has been making pizza since he was 14 yrs old on Long Island. Nobody but a New Yorker can make a good pizza. Rick and his son make the best pizza this side of the Dixie Mason line!!!! Don’t even bother to try any other pizza until you have tried LaBella’s, then your opinion will count!!!
Lets see those of you who think New Yorkers don’t know about Pizza its clear you have NEVER BEEN OR EATEN A NEW YORK PIZZA!!!! Chicago comes close also. But you people in the South have no idea what good food other then southern fried is!!!!! Lets talk bagels??? Ok?? Need I say more?? Not one person in Georgia or from the south has a clue what good pizza is!! Take a trip to New York go to Brooklyn and eat the pizza then come home and tell us that Georgia Pizza is good!!!!
Blue Moon Pizza is located in Smyrna off South Atlanta Road AND Windy Hill Road. The classic pizza and greek salad are the best! Great food and atmosphere!
BUCKHEAD BOB…Would love to change that first part of your name to you know what….Being from New York and now living here is only because my husband was transferred by his job. We pay your taxes and have to put up with TERRIBLE EDUCATION!!!! The education is so bad that the administrator’s had to cheat to have the school pass so its not rated an F!!! I’ll take the education up north any day compared to here in the south. Lets see the teacher’s can’t pass the test so the school board lower the standards and who gets hurt for that, the children. Lets make sure the football players all pass even though they can’t read or write!!! Give me a break you hate New Yorkers….I have lived here for one year and have yet to come across anyone person who would be a friend. Talk about “Southern Hospitality” Sure as long as the person is born and breed in the south!! I have yet to meet one Southern who has taken the time to get to know who I am and I consider it to be their lose!!!! At least New Yorkers are real and not that fake like the South!!! And this goes out to all of you who think New Yorkers should go home. We bring alittle Northern Class to your Southern Fakeness!!!
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I am lifelong Savannah guy about same age as the Deen boys….growing up (late teens-early twenties)would see them around town and remember their early days. The written details of Paula and boys beginnings in the business are right on. They were both hardworking, pleasant, and to this day remain nice and approachable. These two also played a big part in the creation and eventual success of the Lady and Sons. Obviously Paula has made it to the big time now and they have their own smaller fame and celebrity, but they have worked for and deserve all benefits ($$$) that come to them now.
My Mosque and I promote Zyka. We firmly ascertain that Zyka is the Best Indian Restaurant in town, HANDS DOWN! I am not saying this because I am a part owner either.
A 7lb. burrito in 15 minutes??? By any chance do they pick up the tab for the abulance ride and medical bills afterwards? Yikes! The other 2 contests don’t sound too bad though.
Who cares if they’re gay, great cooks, whatever? They have gotten it done and from all I can tell are great guys. Paula’s 1st cousin was my flight instructor and I remember her as a bank teller at the T in Albany. They are all great ambassadors of Southern grace, charm and good cooking. All the best here.
The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.
Meredith Ford Goldman, YOU are the one that brought up the “hotness” issue: the very title of your blog entry includes “yes, they’re that cute” which obviously relates to sexual attraction, not “hot recipes.” Then you turn around and try to quash questions of orientation (which is relevant to both straight women and gay men who “MIGHT” be interested in their cuteness/hotness factor). I thought this was 2009, not 1949.
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Seriously, I have friends in the suburbs who demand Savage when they visit ITP. And I am happy to accommodate.
By the way, I went to the Lady and Sons restaurant in 2008, I was not impressed by the food…it was little more than a buffet. The chicken wasn’t particularly crispy. There was also a fake “wait line” but when I got to the third floor, several seats were available (does having a “line” make people feel like “yay, I got in, I’m special” and “it must be really good for so many people to be waiting”? This “success” story only shows the power of the Food Network and our “celebrity” culture. The Deens may not be “bad” people, but I’m not sure if the level of glorification they’ve received is in fact deserved. Their food was OK, but not “to die for.”
Who cares where anybody is from!!!!!!!!!! Jeees Donna as fellow native New Yorker you need to lighten up! Yes there are bad schools in Metro Atlanta – but there are also some of the best (East Cobb) And you know what it, it is the exact same way in New york. I have made some great friends in the 10 years that I have lived here. You know the saying – Delta is ready when you are!!
I’m from Boston and I don’t give a rip what anyone from NY or Chicago says because everybody with an ounce of intelligence KNOWS that Boston pizza is the best.
Don’t let Bobby’s smile fool you——–he’s snotty to all he doesn’t know. Jamie seems like the real deal. If I could buy Bobby for what he’s worth-and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth——-I’d never have to work another day in this or the next life. He HAS forgotten where he came from—if you can’t help him—he wants no part of you.
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after i got a rave review from a friend, i went to varasanos this weekend. it was mediocre at best. there is not a single place in atlanta that has really great pizza, sorry. i wish we did. i think i have hit most of the recommended spots and none of them get it right.
it should also be noted that people who really know pizza know that connecticut is where the best pizza is from, NOT new york. many new yorkers who know, regularly leave the city to new haven for pepi’s and sally’s which both beat just about every place in new york. pepi’s and sally’s are great but luna’s in hartford and avon (central ct) is the best anywhere. harry’s and first and last tavern along with a few others are better than anything in new york and make anything in atlanta a sad joke.
it is unfortunate that no one has ventured down from ct with the best to be shared here.
don’t even get me started about deli’s and pastrami.
LaBella’s in Marietta near Sprayberry High is as close to authentic NY pizza as it gets in metro Atlanta ! The garlic knots are to die for. Everything is home made & they even import their sausage
from New Jersey. Rick is from Long Island and knows what he’s doing !
Why do these things always result in someone telling someone else to move back to where they came from? Just because they miss a certain something…whether it’s pizza, ice cream, hamburgers, whatever. Quit being such a snot (you know who you are), and appreciate (and maybe try) what they are suggesting. If you “Buckhead Bob” moved to NYC, I guarantee you’d be bitching about something not being like it was in Atlanta.
Is it really success when you ride in your mommy’s apron pouch? I don’t think so…both would be waiters at Denny’s without Paula. Who really gives a flying “chicken pluck” about the Deen boys? Paula appears to be genuine and honest…but again that and $5 will get you a large coffee at Starbucks. Now you can say you know Jack Schitt.
Geez Donna, got a bit of a wall up? I no longer live in my beloved city of Atlanta, but since the Olympics and quite a bit before that, it became harder and harder to find anyone actually from there. The term “Southern Hospitality” is something everyone should practice, not just southerners. Be gracious yourself, act like a “southerner”, take the time to get to know someone else instead of putting the burden on them first, and you might be surprised what happens. I lived in NYC as well, and as soon as I quit approaching everyone like I thought a New Yorker was going to act (rude, brash), it was a much more positive experience. Twenty-five years later, I’m still in touch with my old neighbors!
I need to find another good pizza place in Roswell. I used to go to Zappolli’s on Crabapple, but since they closed down (2 years ago) I haven’t had a decent pizza. Any Roswellians know of any?
The best pizza I have found in the state of Georgia can be had at the Lamplighter Pub in Tifton, GA.
None better. Get the “Stallion” and you won’t regret it.
Bellas on Atl road has very good meatballs, try the MB pie. Fellini’s must get pizza with sausage or just get a Calazone with sausage. My search for a great plain slice outside NY continues
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I have never met them in person but i think that it is nice that they starting from the bottom and still are humble from what i here from friends of minds that met them in person.
Enter your comments here: People are passionate about their pizza. I wish someone would choose a re-do on this important subject. People want to know where to get a fabulous pie, including me. My hopes were dashed.
I can’t claim to have tried every pizza place in the Atlanta metro area, like so many respondents seem to have (how do you people have so much time to devote to pizza sampling and driving between restaurants?). Really, how can you say that some place is the “best by far” unless you’ve personally sampled every place at least once? However, of Mellow Mushroom (several locations), Fellini’s (three locations), Everybody’s (Emory) and Rosa’s (downtown), Rosa’s is my favorite by far. Great crust. Try your slice without additional toppings and you’ll not find it too greasy (that goes for any pizza, of course). Rosa’s is at, or above, the average that I could find on Lawn Guyland (L.I.), Brooklyn, or Manhattan (and in these locations I’ve tried dozens of places).
The best pizza around Atlanta is Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw. without a doubt. I not talking brick oven or loaded with everything in creation, but the best honest NY style pizza.
My favorite used to be Pizzaria Uno until they closed down. For the best ever, I would say Beau Jo’s in Colorado. Here in Atlanta, I would say Savage, Rosa’s, or Everybody’s. And, I actually prefer Chicago pizza over New York style.
When my dad was at Emory for 7 months last year, Everybody’s was a great haven away from the cafeteria, not only for its fun atmosphere and fantastic patio, but their pizza is delish. Their sandwiches are out of this world too!!! I suggest the chicken and cheese pizza with their homemade garlic ranch dip.
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Definitely New York Style. Damn Good
Consistent everytime!!! While you’re there
try the Famous Garlic Rolls…,
MJ Pippins — just go down North Avenue next to Tech about 20 years ago or so… Yum!
To Roswell… and anyone else, check out Vic’s NY Style Pizza in Duluth. Maybe a little bit of a drive, but I doubt you’ll be disappointed. (The garlic puffs are da bomb.)
Bambinelli’s is the place for Atlanta pizza. Granted haven’t tried Rosas or Cosmos yet guess will have to give them a try. Have however gone to about 90% of the other places mentioned. The thing that people don’t seem to realize is that water and altitude plays a big part in any of the bread products. People tend to like what they are used to that is why we all have differant opinions. Ask this same question in NY and you will get even more heated opinions. Carry-on cause it is fun.
HUNGRY HOWIES in LILBURN on Beaver Ruin Rd!! OMG! Not everyone can drive in town to try the other places, but I guarantee you will be very satisfied once you try Hungry Howies Flavored Crust pizza! Their butter cheese and garlic herb crusts are to die for!
Definitely Vingenzo’s in Woodstock – they also travel to Italy to source premium ingredients, and have the best authentic Neapolitan pizza in the north suburbs if not the state! Great salads and hand-made pasta as well, and fabulous freindly employees.
I lived in NJ for 35 years so grew up eating great pizza. When we moved to ATL in 1995, we searched high and low trying to find any pizza that would be comparable to NJ/NY-style pizza. Mellow Mushroom, no. Rosa’s, no. Fellini’s, no. Varasano’s, no… The best pizza joint north of I-20 is Mama’s Pizza in Alpharetta on Old Milton Pkwy. Consistently great pizza, calzones and salads at reasonable prices… and the owner and servers couldn’t be nicer!
Been to New York and if the pizza that we had there is what people think is the best, you can keep it..It wasn’t any better than frozen..
As for good pizza here, I’ll stick with Azio’s..St Angelo’s is also good and you can get slices on their lunch specials..
Oh Donna,I was born and raised here, so either you haven’t met the right people or it could be you..If you are in person the way that you sound from your post, guess that’s why you haven’t met anyone nice..Look in the mirror honey..
Rosa’s is THE best. Hands down. It’s authentic NYC style pizza, made just like mama would have made when she stepped off the boat at Ellis Island. The only downside is that Rosa’s is closed on the weekend. Sigh.
If you want a more traditional pizza, Fritti IS the place. They serve pizza the way it was originally made by Italians, thin crust, without excessive cheese or toppings. It has not been ‘Americanized’ (yet).
Who cares if they were only “discovered” because of their mother? It seems that they have made it on their own after being discovered..Someone at the FNW channel thought they had enough talent or charm to put them on TV, so why does everyone make such a big deal out of it? Maybe it’s envy that you weren’t discorvered because of your mom?
Nancy’s in Buckhead hs the best deep dish. I still can’t find a good thin crust. Fellini’s is a joke..Johnny’s is okay. I still can’t believe no one here uses turkey italian sausage on their thin crust pizzas. Reggio’s in Chicago has by far the best thin crust pizza on earth, and yes it’s cut in squares, but my belly doesn’t know the difference.
Grant Central in Grant Park has delicious pizza. Thin but tasty with fresh toppings. Try dipping the crust in a little of your leftover vinaigrette dressing. Good stuff.
First off, while New York does have great pizza, it doesn’t make any New Yorker a pizza expert, and there are plenty of good slices in Atlanta (I’ve tasted lots of New York and lots of Atlanta and can speak from experience). My favs in Atlanta are Camelli’s (on ponce/midtown) and Baronda (don’t think they sell by the slice thought). I’ve tried the pies in Napoli, Italy, and Baronda is the closest I’ve had state-side, and in my opinion, blows Fritti out of the water.
Ok, so all of you are wrong. Especially Meredith. Try Blue Moon Pizza, Pepperoni’s in Duluth, Bella’s in Marietta, and I like Z’s Pizza in Midtown. Fritti definitely deserves to be on the list, but the others I can do without. Don’t even try to mention Fellini’s unless you’re talking about their salad. The pizza is subpar. As for the people talking about Pizza Fusion….ha. Try Z Pizza instead.
Pizzeria Venti off Lenox Road, in the old Cedars location — tried them when they were giving away a free slice on Labor Day and they are hands-down my favorite pizza in town. The crust is perfectly baked and crispy!!!
Ok, I concede. Cici’s is the best pizza I’ve ever had. Although it’s a little pricey, you can’t beat the desert (dessert ? — I can never figure out the spelling) pizza.
There is really only one pizza worth breaking my diet for and that’s Uncle Vito’s NY Pizza. It is TRULY NY and Italian tasting. Actually, i think it’s better than the slice i had last time i was in NY. Xtra large.. $13. Awesome.
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I gave up looking for the best ten years ago.
I make everything myself;dough,sauce,and I season the so called Italian sausage to my taste.If It does not come out to my satisfaction I will make a change the following week.Its a lot cheaper and more fun than driving around for the best only to be dissapointed.
Sad to see all these places close up – the Obama recession is claiming many victims. Across the board tax cuts – capital gains and income work every time to turn around economies. Hate to see the same mistakes committed in the 1930’s being repeated – see the latest starting a trade war with China. There will be many more behind Roy’s.
Having grown up in and around NYC, now living in the ATL for over 20 years, I’ve come across only one slice of pizza down here that I would confuse with real NY pizza and that is Cosmo’s in Lawrenceville. I live no where near L’ville, but just happened upon it one day while doing business in the area. I’ve probably been to about 50 different pizza joints in the ATL and while there are good ones all around only Cosmo’s really stuck out to me.
BTW Donna, maybe you have to look in the mirror to find your real issue with Southerners. Just some advice…Lighten up and the world will lighten up with you.
I went to Zucca’s over the weekend and ordered a “Victory” personal pie not anything to rave about.There was NO cheese evenly spread on the pizza, just one blob in the middle of each slice,the sauce was was not thick enough you bit into the slice and it just dripped down, the pizza lacked flavor.Expected more for the price,could have bought TWO large pizza’s from Papa Johns, and would have tasted better!
By far the best Pizza in Atlanta was on Peachtree in midtown I believe the owner killed himself in the restaurant and the site was bought by mellow mushroon. I beleive it was called Johnny’s Brick Oven Pizza….I think….by far the best pizza ever in atlanta!!!
Donna – I am going to quote you here so I don’t get it wrong. I wouldn’t want my ‘TERRIBLE EDUCATION’ to show through. I have “NEVER BEEN OR EATEN A NEW YORK PIZZA!!!!”, so I wouldn’t know what that feels like, but I have been to NYC and Chicago and I have eaten pizza in both cities. Real New Yorkers would fight you if you compared a thin, crispy New York pie to what Chicagoans call pizza. Everyone in NYC knows you don’t put the sauce on top of the pie. Judging from your command (snicker, snicker, sarcasm mode fully engaged) of the English language and your flawless syntax I can only imagine how superior the educational system in NYC/NY/NJ/PA – (the entire Northeast) must be to the South. What poor dumb rubes we are down here south of the ‘Dixie Mason line!!!!’. Lewis Grizzard put it so eloquently when he said, “Delta is ready when you are.” There is no Southern Hospitality anymore because there are too many people here in the South from other places who are just like you…rude!
Zucca’s is the best pizza hands down. The one off Town Lake is my fav. hang out. The white pizza with tomatoes..mmmm If it was not for the rain I would head there now
I’ll reiterate my list for the newbies. Try Blue Moon Pizza, Pepperoni’s in Duluth, Bella’s in Marietta, and I like Z’s Pizza in Midtown. And I also like Mellow Mushroom. Phil at Pepperoni’s makes his own sauce. Couple that with the marvelous cheese, and you’ve got a winner. Blue Moon takes it home also.
I can’t claim to be an expert on pizza but my favorite of all the places I’ve been to is Shorty’s Pizza in tucker. I like the thin crust and wood-fired oven. My personal choice is the Tina Turner with onions, walnuts, and feta. My kids like kalamata olives and artichokes.
Ok, just remember you have to try more places than just where you live. I’ll try Shorty’s and give you my opinion. Perhaps it’ll be added to my superior list in the future.
Clearly there will be dissenting opinions, however, I KNOW that Rosa’s Pizza on Broad is the best in the Metro Atlanta area. While I lived there (until a year ago), I would make it a point of eating there on a regular basis. As a native New Yorker, I recognize NY style pizza. The owners are transplants from New York themselves and brought the art of pizza making with them. Besides my true friends, this is one of the few things I miss about Atlanta.
Fini’s Pizzeria (now in 3 locations – 2 in Lawrenceville, 1 in Flowery Branch) is the best NY Style Pizza. It’s OTP, which rarely receives the necessary attention. Ham & Onion slice highly recommended. I also LOVE their salad, rolls and Eggplant Parmigiana. Another must try is Pepperoni’s Pizza in Duluth & Pepperoni’s Tavern. The restaurants are unique and the food is great. They have a TON of different ingredients and various Chicago Style pies. The other menu offerings are fab, particularly the wings (ask for teripepper – it’s not on the menu, but delish) and the ribs. Yum. I’m craving pizza now. Fini’s is owned by true Italianos. Check out Fini’s on Old Peachtree (the original location) and Pepperoni’s off Buford Hwy you’ll see!
I have to agree that Big Pie In The Sky in Kennesaw is fab!!! Get a slice and a Coke for $5.00 and the slice is bigger than your head! Very tasty and crispy. Mellow Mushroom is good. Great salads there! Pizza is a lot like sex: Its all good!
to dave, melinda, libby and all the rest of you new-york-is-the-center-of-the-pizza-world snobs: new york has as much claim to the pizza as georgia has claim to corn bread (that’s not much if you’re unclear). you can however claim a level of self-importance that was not often found here in the south until y’all brought it down.
Blaire Bear Cafe. it has reasonable prices and service with a smile. The place is always full of people coming or going or for the most part just there to hang out. The cook Toby will treat you right or like he says “its free”.
Nancys Pizza in Buckhead and near Georgis Tech is the same franchise from Chicago and for Chicago style pizza – thin crust, pan, or stuffed IS the BEST outside of Chicago!!!
I grew up eating at Gigi’s on Piedmont road-strip mall across from the Gold Club-no other pizza has ever compared to theirs. Sadly they are looong gone. Johnny’s location on Cheshire Br. is always great, Savage pizza is excellent in Little 5, they are supposed to have a location in Avondale?? Fortunately now I live near Bambinelli’s in Lilburn and it is very good and an awesome staff! Stone Mountain Pizza Kitchen and great too. Good pizza-Cioffi’s on Rockbridge, Fini’s on Old Peachtree in Duluth, Vinny’s on Sugarloaf, Enzo’s in Tucker. Don’t waste your time pizza-Cosmo’s in L’ville, gag! the ground beef was those frozen pellet things and the place was dank and dull. Uncle Vito’s on Scenic Hwy. used to be great but changed owners and it is nasty now. Mellow Mushroom in Norcross on Peachtree Parkway-HORRIBLE, nasty attitudes and gross pizza.
I grew up on the best pizza ever from a place called Frederick’s Pizza in Santa Maria, California. No longer there to the best of my knowledge. Don’t know their history either other than it was a family owned pizza joint that stayed packed and served their beer with olives in the bottom. We used to, as kids ask for the olives in our root beer just to be grown. Hence my olive fetish to this day. That being said, I think that what you grew up on will be how you relate the “best” as an adult. I’ve had pizza in NY, Chicago, etc. and still think Frederick’s was the best. That being said, in Atlanta…Pizza Bar (although owner needs to bring the quality back up) is one of my favorites and Blue Moon on Windy Hill (shout out to Mark the bartender!) is another favorite. Not the best though…Fredericks forever!
Max’s Pizza off of Marietta Street right next to STATs is amazing. Super fresh toppings, great crust and they grow their own basil for a delicious margarita pizza.
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Savage Pizza does not sell pizza by the slice. Only whole pies. For slices, Grant Central Pizza in Grant Park near Zoo Atlanta, is pretty good. Better than Fillini’s
Blue Moon Pizza (locations in Marietta and Smyrna) is amazing, also! If you’re OTP, on the NE side of town, look them up — their pizza is amazingly fresh and light. If you like a deep dish pizza, try their “Grandma’s Pizza”, which is awesome, too.
oz pizza is the pizza that is the best in the atl college park go and try it i will put my money on it im from nj, ikhow good pizza go and get it the best
I love a thin crispy crust pizza. My favorite is Shorty’s, either on North Druid Hills or Lawrenceville Highway. Outside of Atlanta, I LOVE Theo’s Pizza on beach road 98 in Miramar Beach (Destin). Theo’s is a wonderful hangout with live local music, too.
Atlantan, what an idiot you are!!!!! It’s like a new president taking over a failing company. The past president has already dug a hole that the new president is trying to climb out of. What if you joined a company and within less than a year you did not perform the miracle expected of you? Is it ok for the entire company to blame you for it’s failure? Adults need to start taking full responsibility for their own mistakes and failures stop blaming others. Or is that the new American way?
It’s not surprising Roy’s Atlanta closed. This location can’t hold a candle to the original Roy’s in Hawaii. I never received good service there. Plus the location for the restaurant could have been better (more signage or something pointing it out to Buckhead on Piedmont Road instead of the tiny sign at the intersection before 400) . They did very little to market themselves locally to Atlanta. I can’t remember seeing an ad for Roy’s, or their logo showing sponsorship, in the past year.
I know it is off topic, but are you going do a report on some of the restaurants that are probably flooded? I’ve already seen pictures of Canoe underwater, which is a huge loss.
A family tradition that we have continued on since I was able to reach the countertop was making my Great Grandmother’s homemade yeast rolls every Thanksgiving and Christmas. Early in the morning with the parade blaring from teh T.V. in the front room, the girls gather together in the kitchen to begin mixing, kneeding, cutting and tasting. There is something in the passing on of good food, the stories told over the bread and all the girls in the kitchen from my mother who is 68 down to my daughter who is now 7. My eldest sister would tell you how much she cherishes this time of cooking but in reality her contribution is whisking in once the dough is made and picking off small pieces at a time. Even that is a loving memory that we share.
I agree with Lauren. While my wife and I only ate there once, it was so disappointing that we never felt the need to go back. There are too many other good restaurants to enjoy in Atlanta!
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Sad I suppose, but the bigger story (and I’m sure much of it will go unpublished here on the AJC and elsewhere) is the amount of trash that gets washed into major waterways and eventually the ocean because of storms like this. As noted above, everything from balls to swing sets were being washed away. And Jeremy Richmond considers that a “show”? I would have thought that a restaurant that prides itself on picturesque views of the Chattahoochee would be nearly horrified by the amount of trash in the water.
I believe this story is relevant to people in the restaurant industry. And I believe a lot of those people read this blog. Therefore, I believe it is “worthy” of this blog.
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jay – Yes, you’re right. That is a problem. But there are countless numbers of flood victims who have lost lots more than temporarily losing their job.
My point was to bring attention to the trash problem this kind of storm brings. We live in Atlanta, far from the Gulf where all the trash will be carried and as a result I think it is a lost story.
Varasano’s in Buckhead is the best I have tried. Also Armando’s in Cartersville and his brother’s place, Toni’s, in Ft. Ogelthorpe, are a close second.
“The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.”
I’m gay, are you going to delete my post? Also, I can spell commenter…..
Drew – Very valid. Simple solution – If you don’t feel the AJC is covering this part of the story then write an editorial and submit it to the AJC or any other publication. The AJC publishes letters to the editors and other articles.
Jay & Jake – how is that 10.7% unemployment rate working for you? Obviously you idiots aren’t students of history, but probably know what is happening on Dancing With The Stars.
Enter your comments here As the owner of a small, family run business that sells our product to the restaurant industry, I am sad to see any restaurant close because I know how hard the operators work. But these people played games with the invoices for my family’s products. They were very difficult to do business with and treated me and other vendors like we were criminals when we tried to get our invoices paid. Almost having to threaten legal action, we finally did get paid; but, with all the bad PR that they accrued for trying to shake down their vendors got them -0- extra business. Maybe next time they will realize that vendors are customers too AND vendors know a lot of people who could also be customers.
Drew, what would you rather people do, try to save their family or a swing set? Trash washing out isn’t something that I would be to concerned about at this time..
if it’s not something that I can take for lunch the next day, my husband and I always share the meal..
Chris, couldn’t help but laugh at your statement..I have a niece that a few years ago worked at Chili’s..She was always talking about how cheap people were when they would come in and share a meal or get a doggie bag..So we told her that she could never go out to eat with us, because I have a sister that (if they let her) always orders off of the kids menu..
Enter your comments here I never personally met either of the brothers, however my husband had the pleaseure of driving them when they were here in Atlanta a couple of years ago. He only had the the greatest time talking with them and driving them around, especially Bobby. We had lunch at The Lady and Sons and the food was great especially the Hoe cakes and Crab stew.
Continue being REAL people guys.
There is always some damn fool trying to bring politics into every discussion. You’ve proven once again “that although genius may have its limitations; stupidity is thus not handicapped”. Roy’s was an excellent restaurant. It will be missed.
I’m with Drew here, its truly appalling how much trash has been washed down. For those of you who are unconcerned, let me know where you live and I’ll come deposit the pile of garbage that washed down to my street onto your driveway. Since its not a big deal I’m sure you won’t mind.
My family frequented Roy’s in Chicago where we are from and in Hawaii where we visit often and it saddens me to see it close. This is my childrens favorite restaurant and the place they want to celebrate all their birthdays.
We love Roy’s!
X: This happens a lot on Table Talk. I understand your confusion — let me see if I can explain. Last week, I was reporting a birthday party bash for a restaurant as part of restaurant news. I wasn’t touting their burrito — I was conveying information, which is a big part of my job. This post is more about how to help people when they are dining out cut cash and calories. If I had been “touting” the burrito, I would have talked about my eating it, what it tasted like, how long it took me to eat it, and whether or not I thought you should go try it. Table Talk covers a lot of different topics. Hope this helps.
Thanks Mark. My point was not to negate the fact that people lost homes, property and lives, it was to express concern that calling heaps of trash floating down the river “dinner and a show” is inappropriate. Oh well, at the very least there were other meaningful contributions, here like Phil’s.
That “dinner and show” comment was so insensitive. What a bunch of stuck-up snobs. How delightful it is that they were entertained by the destruction that was caused when the Hooch “breach[ed] its boundaries.”
@ Drew: I understand your point. The trash is unfortunate, but, trash can be retrieved, unlike the little children (and adults) who were tragically swept away in the floods. That was absolutely devastating.
Glad to hear it. Never had very good food and always had really bad service at this place (they got two chances). Always left feeling like I had been seriously ripped off. The recession is really doing a good job of clearing out the over priced, attitude riddled restos serving mediocre food.
I have to say that I think it is rather amusing that several posts on this blog got so riled up about the quote from Mr. Richmond regarding the debris floating down the river. The quote was obviously just one part of a longer conversation and should be viewed as such. I’m quite certain that the comment was made to try and lighten up what was undoubtedly a very sobering conversation about the damages wrought by the flood. Try and keep some perspective people!
@Aussie: Try not to be so quick to judge a whole group of patrons based on a quote from one person.
@Drew: Your point is well taken about the trash; however, I think that we can all agree that the bigger story at the moment is the loss of life, property and jobs that have resulted from this catastrophic event.
JEA – I never argued that trash was a bigger story than the loss of life, etc. did I? I only said it was a bigger issue than the flooding of a restaurant that choose to put itself on the banks of a river. This isn’t the first time Canoe has flooded and it won’t be the last.
@Drew: Actually, your post above is the first time that you have mentioned Canoe at all, let alone where the flooding of the restaurant ranks in relation to the debris in the river. I wasn’t trying to criticize you, I was only trying to make the point that we can all agree on the fact that there are bigger issues at hand. Canoe has done nothing to pollute the river whatsoever, it is a victim the same as many other businesses and individuals around the city. Again, I’m just asking for some perspective here – no offense intended to anyone…
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Canoe was/is a great restaurant in general, but it also holds a great memory for me. After many years of a broken heart; and the man who broke it later moving to Atlanta with his wife (who he picked in my image); and he, for years, begging me to meet with him–he needed “to talk”…I finally–after 7 years–said yes (to find out what the heck he wanted!), and it was at Canoe that he told me “I f***** up…I married the wrong girl.” And he expounded on that. That was even sweeter than Canoe’s great creme brulee!
Enzo’s is great, both by the slice and a whole pizza. I love Shorty’s, but you can’t get it by the slice. Stone Mountain Pizza Cafe, Vintage Pizza, Bambinelli’s and Mellow Mushroom (certain locations) round out my list of my favorites.
Hi Eli! Thanks for asking. We’re doing something a little different this year — an online guide that will include the Restaurant of the Year, my top ten picks, and 10 of my favorite affordable meals. It should arrive on-line the third week of October!! I’ll be teasing more on the blog soon!
Top Flr and Abattoir are good candidates for this kind of list too. They both have unique selections @ < $30. Concentrics, specifically Ecco and La Tavola have some well priced and good selections too.
Totally agree Jimmy! Excellent choices. Ecco and La Tavola are two of my favorite lists!
And just to be clear, they are Fifth Group restaurants, not Concentrics.
I just wanted to let you know of a new wine retail shop and TAPAS restaurant that is now in Milton, GA. The ambiance is wonderful, and it’s the perfect spot for a romantic evening meal , or a great place to hang out with friends. It is an exciting, casual environment with fabulous food! Very friendly staff. Every dish was served at the perfect temp and flawlessly presented. They also have over 150 bottles of wine that can be purchased from their retail side, and the coolest enomatic machines where you can sample wine by the sip, half glass or full glass.. Awesome place!!!
Yes, after 9 months it IS NOW Obama’s recession–and denial isn’t just a river in Africa. Facts are stubborn things–the $787 BILLION “package” was supposed to keep us from getting to 8% unemployment. Oh yeah, and the government is going to help us–what a farce. Time to put our feet on the ground and understand what works and what is a pie-in-the-sky, liberal elite pipe dream (perhaps to be shared with Obama).
I would like to add the V2 Wine Room at the Vinyeard Wine Market at 2202 Powers Feery Road Atlanta, 30339 Great wines by the glass or by the bottle along with meat and cheese plates at great prices. You can also have food delievered from the surrounding restaurants to have with your wine. The owner Anthony is great and very knowledgeable about all the wines carried. Give it a try sometimes. They also have wine tastings. http://www.thevineyardwinemarket.com
D Sherman: Do tell us the name of this awesome place!! And DeeDee: Understood — go to accessAtlanta for all the dining reviews. And I’ll try to make sure the dining guide is large and in charge! Ethan: Thanks for this tip — I need to cehck this place out.
Gotta add a vote for Cellar 56 in Buckhead. Small but well thought-out list in 3 price ranges, nice by-the-glass selection, and interesting lesser-known choices.
I just love the haters! I have been a fan of a piece of cake since 1997 and will be until there is no more cake. I love that cake so much that I would go every Thursday to pick up one. My family and friends love the cake. I bragged so much about how gooood they taste that I purchased a cake FOR THE HATERS so they would try it. Well to say the least I got my money back! SO EAT THE CAKE ANNIE MAE!!!
NAME OF RESTAURANT IN MILTON Hi Everyone I had sent a comment about the great new restaurant in Milton GA. It’s called Sip!! The Address is 12635 Crabapple Road #120 Milton, GA.
voice of reason – i’ve been to the shark bar and i wouldnt be rushing over and i probably won’t go for a good while again. service was pleasant and ok but the menu leaves much to be desired and the food was sub-mediocre. if you hear differently or find differently when you go, post and i’ll go back but right now my opinion is not worth the walk or the drive. there’s better fare at q’s down the skreet.
I was going to mention Sips Restaurant. A friend of mine recommended I check it out and it was fantastic. It’s somewhat small so I’m sure it will get busy as more people find it but the food was second to none in addition to the fun wine selections. I can’t wait to go back!
Drew, so you don’t care about the restaurant story b/c they chose to be on the river, but you’re mad at the trash coming down from families’ belongings that weren’t even in the floodplain? You keep calling it trash, I’m sure these people would rather have their things to have never washed away! Are you trying to blame the homeowners who were flooded for the things being washed downstream?
I had eaten there several times as a resident of Midtown, and am sorry to see this beautiful restaurant close. The service was always good and the food as good as it gets in Atlanta.
I am truly disappointed to hear the Roy’s has closed. I ate there the last time I visited Atlanta and the food was fabulous. We had excellent service (except for the valet) and it was one of my most fond fine dining experiences. I was online to make reservations for next month when I saw the message that the restaurant had closed. Roy’s will truly be missed!!!
I went to http://www.felidia-nyc.com in Manhatten a couple months ago and they presented a special wine list…all Italian…of about 40 wines all at $28 a bottle…I was a kid in a candy store…and they were well selected nice wines. Atlanta needs more of this kind of thing instead of $10 glass plonk and having to spend over $50 to get a OK wine.
As for Rosebud getting 3 stars, I totally disagree. Live in the neighborhood and have been acouple of times since they reinvented themselves as Rosebud. Not only a disappointment, but truly a BAD experience.
I have met them at book signings and in Savannah (just by chance) They are sweet,down to earth, adorable men who spoke with me on each occasion like they remembered me. They never rushed me away or seemed to be anything but humble! I have met a number of food network people over the years but the Deens truly impressed me with their kindness and understanding that their fans are very important to them. Can’t wait to see them again in Oct. Paula you done GOOD!!
I should add a plug for Two Urban Licks for their very innovative wine program that lets you try a wide range for wines with five different serving sizes
Thanks for the list of restaurants, but I was hoping for a list of wines. The article seemed to imply that you’d provide list of your favorite/affortable wines…
Forget about the other comments, If you are looking for the best pizza for the buck,,, No one can beat Sams Club. This pizza is better than Pizza Hut, Little Ceasar, Papa John, Dominos, CCs pizza, and most of the other little smaller pizza shop. Now what make Sams Club the king of the hill is Quality and price. You can get a 18 inch large supreme pizza for only $9 in about ten minutes. Non of the above places will give you real cheese. Sams Club will give you all fresh vegetable, real cheese and real meat. The crust seems to be made of some type of sour dough baked that is truly tasteful. Talk about a best kept secret, You can even order from home and go to the store for pickup. In a nut shell you get fresh ingredient, real cheese, large portions, great taste for the cheapest price. The only drawback is you or a friend must have to have a Sams Club card to get in the store. Pound for pound the best pizza for the buck in Atlanta
I can’t imagine life without the Deens. My mom and I just love watching them. We (Mom & I) wish them all the success in the world, they really deserve it. They have worked hard for it. Now my two cents on whether or not that Bobby is gay that is HIS business and nobody elses. I wish them many more years of success with peace, love and true happiness.
Weird coincidence. Daddy’s having a pig roast this weekend and he’s going to be the ‘Top Chef’ firing up the slow cooker. We’re planning an all day event, topped off with his signature vinegar based BBQ sauce. Hope to see you all there.
What is noteworthy and somewhat amusing is that our local “dining critics” loved to put down the Dining Room, which is Atlanta’s best restaurant and has been since it opened. But they just couldn’t find it in themselves to agree with Mobil. They just had to be different. Not even one local publication rated the Dining Room as the best in town. To even mention a place like Bacchanalia in the same sentence as the Dining Room is absurd. There is nothing about Bacchanalia that compares to the Dining Room. Nothing. We probably didn’t deserve the Dining Room.
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I really enjoy Mexican cuisine and Rosa Mexicano has some really nice dishes. Unfortunately it’s hard to get very enthusiastic about going there again after they allowed not one, but two episodes of the “Real House ‘Hoes’ of Atlanta” to film there. One can only imagine what kind of customers that sort of publicity must attract. I shutter to think of what one could catch sitting on a chair after Kim in a mini-dress.
If you just need a small cajeta fix and want the easy way out, try Coronado Paleta de Cajeta lollipops. I get them at the Cobb International Farmer’s Market. About a buck for ten of them. Can’t bleat (I mean beat) ‘em.
My employer sent Burger’s Country Ham and Turduckens to our clients every Christmas. They were always a big hit (especially when extras were ordered for us to share).
I am a bacon lover – very crispy. I have purchased Benton Farm’s bacon and Alan Benton is a great guy and a joy to talk with. However, his bacon is a little too smokey for me to eat on it’s own. It’s great as an addition and enhancer to other foods, but not by itself. I’ll give Burger’s Smokehouse a try. I’m always looking for a great piece of bacon (the maple bacon at the Druid Hills golf club is great! Yum) I tried duplicating it at home and it was good – with one lesson learned. You cannot drain it on a paper towel!
Thanks for the info – I checked out the Burger’s Smokehouse website and albeit a little pricey – I found some things for that picky person at Christmas!
Are any of you familiar with fresh, or uncured bacon from the meat market? We grew up calling it “side meat”. Nothing compares to me, esp with pintos, greens, and cornbread. You can have all the fakey added flavors, smoke, maple, cured stuff etc. you want. I am having trouble finding it, though. We used to buy from Chambers up in Blairsville. All corn fed pork. If any one knows of a good place to buy it on the northside, please let me know. Thanks!
The best bacon I have found is from the Smokehouse just of I-85 in Greenville, Alabama (an hour or so south of Montgomery). Its in a building attached to a BP station and they have BBQ and sausage, but those are pedestrian compared this bacon which can be ordered with or without the rind.
Someday when I no longer care about my health I will determine how much bacon I can eat. All I know is it’s more than I have ever been served. My mother was horrified when my grandmother once fried up a whole pound for me one day when I was a child. I see a pancacke breakfast as a way to bring bacon together with maple syrup. I have always felt that a candy based on these flavors would outsell Snickers.
Burger’s is WONDERFUL bacon. You can find it at Publix for $5.99 per pound. It is much better than any other bacon I’ve purchased in a supermarket. A couple of dollars more, but well worth it.
You just CAN NOT serve chunchy, crumbly bacon.
Bacon MUST be cooked so that it is chewy.
I can NOT stand crunchy, crumbly bacon.
If you’re a big fan of bacon, Google “bacon explosion”, it is UNBELIEVEABLE!!
Waffle House bacon is way too thin. I had black pepper and brown sugar bacon at a Christmas brunch last year and could have eaten the whole serving tray, it was so good. If there’s a food you don’t really care for, wrap it in bacon and brown it, and you’ll scarf it down.
EVERYTHING is better with bacon! And if you eat it by itself then it needs to be crispy! Newsky’s has some great bacon and you can get it at the Fresh Market. Mushrooms, steak, scallops, shrimp… All better if wrapped in bacon. Definitely.
HI EVERYONE, TO FIND THIS INCREDABLE BURGERS’ “DRY CURED” BACON GO TO ANY PUBLIX STORE IN N. GEORGIA, S. CAROLINA, NASHVILLE OR BIRMINGHAM, AL. THE THICK SLICED IS LIKE “BACON STEAK” WE PUT IT ON THE GRILL! GO DAWGS!Enter your comments here
Enter your comments here You are correct, the Burger’s Smokehouse Bacon is the best I have ever found throughout my travels…..If you think the bacon is good, you have to try their pre-cooked ribs, ham steaks and biscuit cut ham….perfect for a Southern Breakfast and tailgate parties…..
We live in Florida and were fortunate to find some Burger’s Smokehouse bacon in St. Petersburg, FL…..This stuff is like popcorn, you can just eat one piece…… Feed the Oscar Mayer to the Dog and savor the Burger’s for yourself……
Pine Street Market in Avondale makes their own bacon (amongst many other delicious meat products) and it is delicious. Not too smokey. Not too salty. Sawicki’s in Decatur carries some great bacon too, but I am not clear what brand it is or if it is even the same brand all the time.
I will have to try the Burgers Bacon..I love bacon when it’s cooked jsut under crispy, but still has a little chew to it..I have a coworker that cooks it in the microwave and only cooks it about 2 minutes, yuk..
As fer said, bacon is why I could never be a vegetarian..
I like mine mostly crispy, but it is best if it has some crip to it with some chewy to it as well. Which works for me cause I like really thick slices of bacon.
I would love to try chocolate covered bacon! I’ll have to make it some day.
Lynn, I can’t even believe you would post such a stupid comment and broadcast your ignorance to the world. Obama barely even knew his father. I know that because I read his book while I was trying to make up my mind who to vote for. I’m guessing you must not read much, unless it’s all those spam e-mails telling you Obama is a Muslim and doesn’t hold a birth certificate from here. Such a shame that all you people believe all the trash that is spoonfed to you. Me, I’m glad to have a mind of my own.
Crumbled bacon crust quiche. Deviled egg and crunchy bacon sandwich. Crisp fat back in a real Grandma biscuit. Waffle taco filled with crumbled bacon and scrambled egg, topped with a little cheese and drizzled with Maple syrup. I could go on and on and on. . .
Bentons Bacon ROCKS. The Inn at Blackberry Farm, http://www.blackberryfarm.com/ serves it (which is where we found it). It’s the best anywhere – and I’ve eaten a LOT of that nutritionally bankrupt food.
Enter your comments here Atlanta’s chef’s of note use Benton’s, and so do I, making the trek to the Madisonville TN. smoke house a couple of times a year. Benton’s, hands down is the best bacon in the nation, and yes, I have had Burgers, Broadbent’s, Father’s, and Van de Rose’s…none compare to what Alan Benton is producing.
I don’t know what kind of bacon Chili’s puts on their burgers, but I’ve been tempted many times to just dispense with the burger and eat just the bacon–it is just that good. That said, I will be visiting Publix tomorrow for some Burgers bacon. You all have convinced me.
Count me in as another vote for Benton’s bacon. It is the best bacon I have ever eaten and is priced @ the high end of the grocery store brands. He also still gives you a pound for your money vs the 12 oz many of the one in the grocery sell now.
If you like thin, crispy bacon, try Boar’s Head panceta. Panceta enhances the flavor of many foods, but it’s not intended as a breakfast meat, although I have crumbled it on a cheese grits casserole.
Thick sliced bacon (really good quality), enough brown sugar to dredge it in, sprinkling of cayenne pepper………bake in the oven til crispy…….Pig candy HEAVEN!!
I ate 2lbs from the New Yourk Butcher Shop last night. It was awesome! I have been grilling it lately so good on the grill. Cooked a extra pound for lunch!
My dad makes the best bacon. He won’t tell me where he gets it but I do sometimes get the good fortune to watch him cook it. He bastes it with some of his vinegar based BBQ sauce and then simmers it over charcoals that just barely have any juice left. Last time I had some of his bacon I woke up 6 hours later a mile down the road w/ my shirt around my waist, wearing a Sony Walkman that wasn’t mine playing ‘Free Bird’ over and over again.
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JohnnyRock
March 13th, 2009
9:16 pm
Love the new blog format. Definitely easier on the eyes!
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cubalibre
March 14th, 2009
11:06 pm
Well, I wouldn’t call your husband retarded– but here lately, more often than not I’ve been seriously questioning YOUR taste. After trying some of the restaurants that you’ve given high ratings– most recently, “La Pietra Cucina”– I have to say that I’ve been underwhelmed by almost all of your recommendations (one of the few you’ve gotten right would be “Shaun’s”– but I’m sure you’ve heard that old saying about blind pigs & acorns). I used to think that you were a breath of fresh air– a nice change from Kessler’s often overblown pomposity. Lately, though, I’m beginning to realize that your palate isn’t really any more sophisticated or knowledgeable than anyone else’s. You tend to give too high a rating to places that have maybe one or two standout dishes & nothing more; this makes me wonder whether you actually try everything the kitchen has to offer, or whether you go to a place more than twice before you bestow whatever number of stars you deem it merits. I’ve followed many of your suggestions, only to find that they were mediocre or uneven at best. I think from now on that I’ll stick with Christiane Lauterbach’s recommendations– she, at least, seems to have developed a palate.
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susan
March 15th, 2009
1:43 am
I find reviews that aren’t stuffy and pompous refreshing. No one is going to agree with everything you or any critic says due to much varied palates. I too agree that the number “food & wine” snobs has become way out of control. I find a varied palate more interestig than someone who spits out the same verbose columns one after the other. Keep up the realism…a refreshing cleansing of the palate!
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Jennifer
March 15th, 2009
4:52 pm
I wouldn’t call him retarded, but I would call both of you thin-skinned. Get over it!
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Chris Broe
March 15th, 2009
7:05 pm
Retard-o-rama.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
March 16th, 2009
5:06 am
Cubalibre: Sorry to disappoint. I’ll keep your comments in mind. And I will always, always try harder. And Jennifer: I’ve got the thickest skin this side of Pluto. You have no idea.
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MJ
March 16th, 2009
2:32 pm
If you kick me out, don’t expect me to return. If you have poor customer service, you don’t deserve my business.
I dined at MF Sushibar on Friday. Once my party had paid the bill, about $170 for a table of three, we did linger for a while to talk. But we didn’t ask for continued service or water refills. The wait staff never bothered us and never made us feel unwelcome. If the restaurant was at full capacity and I saw people waiting for a spot, I would have suggested that we move to another location.
If you don’t respect your customers, you will lose them. I had a bad experience at Emeril’s regarding a rude waiter … and you know what happened to that restaurant.
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big mac
March 16th, 2009
2:38 pm
with food blogs everywhere, customer rating websites (citysearch, yelp),
everybody is a food snob. only one i count on is you Meridith
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the evil rich
March 16th, 2009
10:38 pm
Put yourself in the server’s place. You are holding them up from waiting on someone else that will help pay their salary. We eat out 7-10 times a week, and I’m not talking McDonald’s. I have NO problem with a “hint” to move along after your meal.
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martin stuart
March 16th, 2009
10:40 pm
I would not go back to a restaurant that asked me to leave. I know from my own experience how frustrating it is to have people camp out. it can be very rude and can hurt$ the server, but it is part of the buisiness.
1&1/2 hour is time to leave.
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The Truth
March 16th, 2009
10:47 pm
I once hosted a business dinner for about 12 people. After about two hours (and granted we were constantly ordering wine and additional cocktails), the host stopped by and politely explained that he needed the room for the next reservation. Without asking, he offered to buy my group a final round of drinks if we would oblige him by moving to the bar. Excellent service, no embarrassment, and a final drink to send us off. You can’t beat good service.
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keith
March 16th, 2009
11:04 pm
The restaurant is in business to make money as is the wait staff. You had sat there for over an hour and a half. The longer you sat, the more money they lost. Obviously your head was inserted up your b–t and you had no consideration for how many people walked away because they had waited so long or saw the length of the line and drove off. More money lost. That is not your living room so get you inconsiderate a– up and leave. If you want to lounge around and talk over tea, go to your living room and flap your gums all night. Your inconsideration that you think you deserve to lounge around in their diner is mind boggling so maybe they weren’t concerned that you were offended.
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paulfromatlanta
March 17th, 2009
12:36 am
Taking an an hour and a half at lunch at a crowded restaurant cuts the number of customers than can be served at this prime time by half. if you want to tie up up valuable assets the correct way to do it is by continuing to order. Otherwise you are simply not being reasonable – you would not expect to keep a hotel room or rental car or anything else twice as long when its in highest demand without compensation.
To be so rude about staying so long as to actually get thrown out likely means you are among the worst 1% of rude and/selfish customers. Its a reasonable choice for a business to lose that 1%.
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Dirty
March 17th, 2009
12:37 am
I’d be interested in the restaurant’s side of the story.
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The Really Old Man
March 17th, 2009
1:13 am
How can this happen in our NEW country with our NEW leader. Our leader and congress need to stop this outrage. No more bailout money for this restaurant. The rest of us can get our free checks from our Savior Obama but no free government money to this restaurant. I’ll bet they would not dare ask our Savior to leave after 1.5 hours.
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Mr. Charming
March 17th, 2009
1:48 am
One and a half hours of sipping tea and chatting during the lunch hour? Who the devil do you think you are? The Queen of Freaking England? Eat your meal and get the frick out!
Sure, there might have been “other tables” opening up… but were they YOUR server’s tables? Probably not… so your server is losing tips because you are want to sit and flap your gums? MOVE YOUR ASH!
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Redd
March 17th, 2009
1:48 am
I bet you cackling women were there way longer than you’re willing to admit and thus the reason you were asked to leave. I also feel that you and your giggling gals have over-stayed your welcome there before. I know that when a bunch of hens get together and get to talking about shoes and other gossiping crap you forget the time and pay no attention to anything! It’s a place of business and not a sorority house! You had plenty of time and I don’t feel that the Tea house was wrong for asking you to leave. More than likely you were asked in a nicer manner than you’ve stated. Get over it and do your tea-gossiping gatherings at each other homes. Hahahhahahahahahaha!
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derrick
March 17th, 2009
6:13 am
No, the customer is not always right, but there are still a customer. You want to treat them with respect and great customer service. Customers are wrong, but treat them with good customer service. There are always two points of view to the story.To you, your party was having a good time and shouldn’t been asked to leave. From the server and restaurant point of view, you ladies should have known the 1 1/2hr table limit if you ladies have been going there for years. You must have read the menu at least once during that time. The server would like to wait on more than just your table to make some money during her shift. If you are going to hold up her tables for that long make sure you tip accordingly.
No, the hostess should not have asked you to leave. You shaould have requested a manager and spoke with the manager. The manager probably would have handled it a little bit more proffesional than a hostess. Remember, the hostess was probably trying to help out her server friend to make. If the manager was involved, this probablly could have been handled totally different where no one got their feeling hurt.
some money.
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DB
March 17th, 2009
7:36 am
I would have been more considerate of a loyal customer. I am a lady too,and when the gossip and company is good I lose track of time.Maybe the bad publicity will make them see the error of their ways.I would NOT go back. Word of mouth goes a long way in this business.
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Scoutmma
March 17th, 2009
8:33 am
The attitude at the restaurant is the issue. It’s easy to lose track of time whilst enjoying a meal and conversation. If they were rude to you….they’ll be rude to others.
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stonecool
March 17th, 2009
8:54 am
I’ve been by that restaurant many times, and as small as it is, no one should be there more than an hour and a half!
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Bailey
March 17th, 2009
9:02 am
Remember people, if you linger at a table after you are finished dining that is fine – make sure you tip the waiter nicely! After all you are taking up space at the table that another paying customer could have. No reason to kick someone out because they are finished with the meal.
Half the enjoyment is fellowship!
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Owner of a "Grown-up" restaurant
March 17th, 2009
9:03 am
The only time it’s OK to kick you out of a restaurant is if you’re there with your smelly, sticky, bratty kids who are running around, annoying others, not using their “indoor voices” and generally just being disruptive. Leave my restaurant and, I don’t care if you ever come back – I have plenty of other customers who will continue to patronize my establishment.
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Tom
March 17th, 2009
9:08 am
I think asking you to leave was fine. You were not spending any more money, and were taking up a table that otherwise could represent income for your server. My guess is that you were probably given multiple hints before they finally asked you to leave, but you chose to leave these out of the story. They probably had finally decided to enforce the table time limit once they realized you were not getting the hint.
I agree with the majority here – you were being selfish here. The customer is not always right. What if you said, “I’d like my meal for free.” So – is the customer always right? Certainly not. “well, that’s unreasonable” you say. OK – then you understand that your hour and a half loitering is also unreasonable.
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Surprise...Surprise
March 17th, 2009
9:12 am
I am SO surprised that someone has been able to display his or her blatant racism and distain for President Obama in an issue that has nothing to do with either. I am so surprised!!! Some of you bloggers are such one trick ponies and I am so bored!
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Tom
March 17th, 2009
9:12 am
To the “grown up” restaurant owner:
I’ve seen more adults act the way you describe than children. I hope I never have to dine in your establishment. If I ever do and get the attitude I hear coming from your “grown up” mouth, I’ll make sure I mention your restaurant to all I am able. And be assured it won’t bring you any business.
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Owner of a "Grown-up" restaurant
March 17th, 2009
9:18 am
Go for it, Tom. Don’t need your whiny azz in my place, anyway. Sounds like you’re the adult version of one of those bratty kids – too bad your mama didn’t raise you well.
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Tom
March 17th, 2009
9:28 am
“Grown up” – wow – name calling (”whiny azz”), put-downs (”you’re the adult version…”), insulting my mother? Interesting comments from the owner of a “grown up” restaurant! You should have left your message deleted…
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TJ
March 17th, 2009
9:43 am
Why does everyone in this country feel entitled for compensation if something doesnt go right??? Get a life. When the wait is long to get into Brickstore I dont demand a free gift, and I wouldnt ask for one if they kicked me out.
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JJ
March 17th, 2009
9:44 am
Sometimes we linger. A group of girlfriends looses track of time, and yes, we tip appropriately.
We always warn them when our HUGE group walks in the door, we are loud and noisy. Put us in the back where we will not bother the other patrons. We may linger, but we will be sure to compensate our server handsomely!!!!
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Sugar
March 17th, 2009
9:45 am
Some of you need to get off your high horse. Does this really affect YOU?
It amazes me how total strangers can be so mean and say hurtful things. Can’t we all just get along? Geezz people. Lighten up. We only get one go around at this thing called life, so let’s enjoy our time while we are here.
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Ressa
March 17th, 2009
9:57 am
Thank you Sugar
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ajani
March 17th, 2009
10:03 am
When I have stayed more than I guess comfortable time we always tip very well. Most servers don’t mind if they are getting the same tip as they would if they sat another group. They actually like that they don’t have to serve us that much but make a great tip. Everyone is happy.
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Vince
March 17th, 2009
10:14 am
Surprise…Surprise,
Show me where there was racism. I’m surprised you don’t get it!
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Grown Up
March 17th, 2009
10:16 am
Amen to you, Grown Up Restaurant Owner!! I’ll spend any amount of money to eat and converse without the screams of the spawn of parents too cheap to spring for a sitter. There is nothing more infuriating than lazy parents who are so immune to the noise of their brats that they sit back and inflict it on the rest of us.
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restaurantmanager
March 17th, 2009
10:18 am
I can honestly see both sides of the story. Yes my servers and restaurant need to turn tables during peak hours. However, I would never feel like it is ok to ask a guest to leave! The only exception is at the end of the night, when there is one table in the restaurant, we need to lock up for security purposes. Restaurants are in the business of serving people, and I think most respectable places will do whatever it takes to make the guest happy, even if it means slower table turns. What good does it do to upset your guests? You will end up with none.
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E
March 17th, 2009
10:22 am
I think that a restaurant is within its right to impose an hour and a half time limit. However, this situation was obviously not handled properly. A little customer service and ample notification BEFORE you were seated would have avoided this problem. My problem with this is that the “reader’s” version is the only version of the story we get, so I am sure she wants to sound like she is in the right. I believe that she was probably there longer than she claims or there would be no reason for her to be upset about being asked to leave after the time limit. As someone who has waited tables, I will say that most people don’t tip for their time spent CAMPING at tables and employees have a right to get frustrated if the stay becomes excessive.
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DB
March 17th, 2009
10:29 am
One of my old bosses was so generous, he would take his entire staff to dine at Atlanta’s best at lunch for special occasions or just because. An “ordinary” lunch treat was the original Pilgreen’s in West End. His favorite comfort food lunch in the office was a fried Spam sandwich with mustard on white bread. He held a Master’s Degree in business, and was the epitome of refinement and good taste. Don’t tell Scott Peacock but I love jello with canned fruit cocktail.
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Bren
March 17th, 2009
10:48 am
As a former waitress, I understand the server’s want/need to turn the table. That said, I had people sit at tables for FIVE hours and then tip only on the bill. When you are going to take up a table for hours, then you should definitely tip the server based on the time you took the table from other tipping customers and not just the amount of the bill. Unfortunately, most people aren’t aware enough of this to do so. That said, we never kicked people out of our restaurant and like others have said, the bad word of mouth that this restaurant will get from this incident wasn’t worth it in the overall scheme of things.
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hazer
March 17th, 2009
10:49 am
Sounds like restaurantmanager has figured out what the owner of a “grown-up” restaurant has yet to learn. Hope they’re not at the same establishment, for soon we may find the servant is the master. Then again, that would be a good thing in that case (^;
This is simple really: the group stayed too long without compensation, the hostess handled the situation improperly. Two wrongs don’t make a right, so no one wins. Give it another shot, and follow the rules now that you are aware of them. Or keep ordering and/or inform your server that you plan to compensate them for the time. If mistreated again, don’t go back.
As far as kids in restaurants: if you don’t want them there, don’t have a kids menu. And parents shouldn’t take theirs to restaurants that don’t feature one. This isn’t rocket surgery, folks (^;
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Texas
March 17th, 2009
11:00 am
I have worked in several restaurants and I have seen managers offer after dinner drinks to the customers when we have a wait to relocate to the bar. I have seen rude customers who have dined from 4:30pm until 9:30pm with checks less than $100 for a party of 2 to 4 and the tip is horrible. Some customers are very respectful and will let the hostess or server know that they will be dining for awhile, to catch up with a long time friend or a business meeting. This is very understood. Customers have also stated that they will tip accordingly over the 20%. However, there are so many customers that could careless and feel like the restaurants should owe them something, because they are use to making a scene at restaurants. This is what some rude people do, they live off handouts. They don’t care if the server gets paid or not. This is why some restaurants after a certain hour charge for entry into their establishment. People want to be seen and want spend any money. If you feel the need to dine all day, have a luncheon at someones home and have it catered.
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Mike
March 17th, 2009
11:18 am
The owner of the “grown-up” restaurant reminded me of a Miss Manners column in which a manager indicated that people didn’t know how to act in “finer” restaurants. Her response began “finer than what?” and proceeded to berate him for expecting his customers to behave in a way that only benefited the management.
I think the restaurant was out of line to ask them to leave, unless it was after the lunch hour and they were trying to clean up. If there weren’t people waiting, whose business was the server losing?
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Cindy
March 17th, 2009
11:46 am
Unless it is explicitly posted there is a time-limit for lunch, then this behavior by the wait staff is wrong, rude and wrong.
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deegee
March 17th, 2009
11:49 am
If you want to spend time with your friends and take a leisurely lunch, why not invite them over to your home and entertain them there? If you really want to go out to eat, why not pay the check and relocate yourselves so that you can continue to chat? I have never heard of a time limit on tables. Something tells me that was some b.s. that was concocted by the staff in order to appear justified in what they were doing. I, too would like to hear their side of the story.
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Eric
March 17th, 2009
11:55 am
Hazer…….I don’t like misbehaved kids at a restaurant anymore than the next guy, but I think you are misguided in your advice. The kids menu isn’t an excuse for misbehaved kids. If your kids can’t behave, don’t take them regardless of whether there is a kids menu or not.
As for lingering…..that’s interesting. I guess I would argue that although in poor taste, who is to say what a patron is entitled to for their business. I don’t think 1 hour and 25 minutes is very long. What is the going rate per hour after and hour and a half to rent a table these days ? I don’t know. At some point, if I am dropping 200+ on a dinner and the waiter/waitress is going to receive 40+ dollars for 3 hours of her time……I don’t think they have a beef with me sitting there. But at the same time, I am not quite sure why I am supposed to tip the waitress more for running back to get my steak than I am for getting my chicken tenders just because they are more expensive, but I still do so.
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Sheri
March 17th, 2009
11:57 am
I too feel that we did not get all of the initial story. I think there were probably more hints given than she is willing to admit, or maybe her party did not “get” the hints and were finally asked to leave. I honestly feel like 1.5 hours is more than enough time to have a ladies lunch. Any longer than that and you should move your little party elsewhere.
My personal opinion is, if you have finished your meal, and are not going to order dessert, drinks, etc., you should pay your check and leave. This is what I do when I go out to eat. If you continue to linger for a considerable amount of time and are no longer ordering, I think the restaurant manager should visit your table and kindly ask that you vacate the table for the next customer. If the hostess approached the group of ladies as described above then she went about it the wrong way. However, while her approach may be in need of some tact, I still feel that she was within the realm of what is reasonable to ask the party to leave. She did give them all complimentary tea.
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Bootney Farnsworth
March 17th, 2009
11:59 am
I dined at the Fox Sports Grill two Summers ago for the first time. A long line formed outside, and even though I was continuing to purchase more food and drinks for myself and a friend, we were asked to leave to acommodate the next line of patrons coming in the door. Most of the so called patrons were just coming in to watch the games or loiter about. I felt it was rude to be asked to leave, especially when I was still making purchases. Needless to say, I won’t dine there again.
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Army Wife
March 17th, 2009
12:04 pm
I work at a restaurant and we would never ask someone to leave. Yes, it stinks when people camp out at the table because it does have an effect on the server’s money, but it happens and you just have to deal with it.
As for the restaurant rule that the customer is always right, no they are not. I had a customer be so rude to me because he wanted loaded potato skins and I told him we didn’t carry them. He asked me how long I had worked there and I said three years and we haven’t had them since i’ve worked here. He proceeded to tell me that I was wrong and that he had them the last time he was there. About 5 minutes later he looked like a fool when he realized he was at Chili’s and not O’Charley’s. Also, I had a customer call me a b***h because he wanted a certain shot and we were out of one of the liquors. When I brought out the check he refused to pay it since he felt that if we were out of that liquor, he should not have to pay for ANY of his drinks. Again, WRONG.
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Bob
March 17th, 2009
12:06 pm
Not if they want me or anyone I can get a hearing with to ever come back. If I wanted McD’s, I would go there, but even McD’s doesn’t do that.
Whatever they may think about themselves, they are as low class as it gets.
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Bob
March 17th, 2009
12:06 pm
By the way, I’d like to know which restaurant it is so I can avoid it.
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catlady
March 17th, 2009
12:11 pm
I don’t fault the restaurant here; an hour and a half for lunch is excessive. I doubt the restaurant reallyneeds these self-absorbed, obtuse, rude folks.
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Stu B.
March 17th, 2009
12:18 pm
One the one hand, restaurants – and servers – rely on “turning tables” especially during the busiest times of the day to generate revenue (and tips in the case of the staff). My guess is that these days this is more important than ever. On the other hand, customers should be allowed to enjoy the food and the service for which they have paid.
If a restaurant does not explicitly tell customers there is a time limit, then it should not enforce one, and jilted customers should never go back. If it does have a limit, customers should abide by it or just find a new place to eat. The market will determine the outcome. If a restaurant has sufficient clientele to enforce limits it will do so if it chooses. If it can’t afford to lose customers it probably will not – the caveat being it will put less servers on the floor and give them more tables to cover. You’ll end up sitting longer but will have poorer service. And, if you go to a place regularly and are identified by the staff as a lingerer, your service will be poorer still. It’s up to you!
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Jim
March 17th, 2009
12:24 pm
The funniest thing you may read today is this quote ON THIS RESTAURANT’S OWN WEB SITE!
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Oops…sounds like they didn’t communicate that whole philosophy with the staff.
Seriously, an hour and a half!!! That wasn’t that long for a group lunch. Given that no advance notice was given I’d say she’s right to be upset.
I once tried to eat at Loca Luna on New Years Eve. Sat down, and was told, only at the end of our meal, that there was a 2 hour table limit. We had a table full, and had intended to spend the time snacking and drinking, so it would not have been a “cheap” table. We still had to go.
We tried to hang out, but the place was becoming so jammed with everyone else who was getting kicked off their tables but not leaving that we finally bailed. Went to one of our houses, and probably had a better evening than we would have had we stayed.
Guess how many times we’ve been back to Loca Luna?
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Jim
March 17th, 2009
12:25 pm
Let’s try the quote part again. here it is
“When asked what she loves about tea, Tea Leaves owner Kim Jordy’s answer was simple. ‘Everything… the food, the ritual, the fact that you have totake time to slow down. You can’t rush the water boiling. You can’t rush the tea steeping. In today’s hectic world, it forces you to slow down.’ “
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Bob
March 17th, 2009
12:29 pm
If I ever saw a time limit posted in a restaurant, I would turn around and walk out. If you’re too stupid to run your business in such a way as to allow for people to actually sit and enjoy themselves, that’s your own fault.
We don’t go to restaurants to be injected with some calories and a little pleasant tingle on our tongues. We go to spend time with people. Eating is part of it, but the gastrointestinal benefit can be achieved far more efficiently in other ways. If you want your business to be a part of the that most important ritual of life–eating meals together–then you need to plan accordingly.
As to the children, the best solution is for parents to train their children. They’re not monkeys. I have three, 8, 5 and 16 months, and all of them behave in the restaurant because we teach them to.
I would be very happy for all you child-hating, family and friendship-berating sour-pusses to go stick your mouths under food faucets and get a couple of pumps and leave me and my 30% tipping self and my family and my friends to enjoy a proper dining experience where we can find one in this barbaric world.
I think you waiters and “grown up” restaurant owners need to identify your restaurants to test out whether we think your philosophy is really what the market demands.
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Bob
March 17th, 2009
12:30 pm
One more by the way…if I ever feel rushed, you can count on me being there a good while longer.
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Katharine
March 17th, 2009
12:37 pm
I don’t think a restaurant should kick people out unless they are being unruly or disruptive in some way. It’s not the customer’s fault if the restaurant has overbooked their reservations, or they are understaffed for the evening. If they want return business, they should try to leave the best impression possible in the customer’s mind. In these days of the Internet, word about poor treatment travels fast!
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MerryMary
March 17th, 2009
12:50 pm
When I’m out having lunch with one particular friend, we tend to linger longer. We benefit the server by always tipping double and refer to it as “paying rent.” I don’t guess that helps the establishment, but if we saw lines forming waiting for tables out of consideration we’d leave without being asked.
(I was once married to a restaurant owner and am still aware of the need to “turn” tables…..)
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Dick
March 17th, 2009
12:52 pm
I can shoot the cow, cut it up, grill it’s butt and eat it in an hour and a half. What the heck takes you so long unless you’re continuing to drink?
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Sport
March 17th, 2009
12:52 pm
I would LOVE to eat lunch and be in and out within one hour. However lately it takes 10 mintes to take the order, 20-30 minutes to get the food…even if it is a small salad and water, because “the kitchen is backed up with orders” at this point I am not going to wolf down my food so you can have the table ready to go in 1 1/2 hours. It is rude to think so.
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debbis
March 17th, 2009
12:53 pm
I have eaten at this place for years and they are very busy and always nice to the customers. They run a excellent place and 1.5 hours is long enough to eat and visit. I’ve had to wait before because they were packed and my table would not leave. The owner has learned that just asking certain women finish up doesn’t work. Sometimes you have to be to the point to get the point across. Don’t over stay your welcome. This is a wonderful place to go and eat and the food is great.
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Marty
March 17th, 2009
12:53 pm
Bottom line here is you are in a PRIVATE business. You don’t own it or have a major stake in its rise or fall. Eat and get on with you life. Why would anyone think it is ok to just hang out holding up people from making money and feeding their family? Oh wait that right we are now in the ‘It’s all about me” era. Write your President maybe he will tax them to death so you won’t have them to worry about.
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Sport
March 17th, 2009
1:01 pm
I’ve come to the point, after reading all the wines and cranky people… If the location would provide good customer service and the customer would be polite with thier manners, this problem would be moot. However, I now believe a bunch of you ***ches should pack lunch at home.
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Bigsquatch
March 17th, 2009
1:02 pm
I thinks these ol’ burds was gittin’ freaky n’ frisky an management just don’t need that around!
Ladies sleepin’ in they tea. Denture creams just stankin’ up the joint, and they been probably leavin’ nickles and stealin’ pickles- or them fancy sugar packets- fo’ years!
Catchin’ up on ol’ lady gossip? You can do that in back in th’ trailer! A tea house is a busness and yo’ busness was thru!
Don’t come all stanky-in up mah joint! Momma’d sick the dawgs on you!
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Carolyn
March 17th, 2009
1:13 pm
I worked at tea leaves & thyme. Saturdays are busy. they are closed on Sunday and Monday. Partys are booked for 1hour & half. If you want time to chatt with friends, go on tuesday or wednesday.
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AJ
March 17th, 2009
1:15 pm
The cruel comments on this board (and others) disappoints me. I was going to say “disgusts me”, which is accurate, but I don’t understand why people feel such a need to spew hatred. Well, I guess I do understand, their lives are so awful, that it makes them feel better to be cruel to others. And yes, I’m now prepared to be the recipient. Come get me. I use the same name (AJ) on every post, so fire away.
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The Voice
March 17th, 2009
1:18 pm
Let’s see now….Economy is in the crapper, people and families are living in tent cities, unemployment approaching 10%, a Marxist in the White House, No difference between Dimocraps and Reptbubs, gas at nearly $2 a gallon after going to $4 a gallon, President wants to make our wounded service men and women pay for their injuries by using their own insurance…..and here we are….debating an issue of how long a group of bored, air headed house-slugs spend over tea. There is no hope we are lost.
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CJ in Atlanta
March 17th, 2009
1:27 pm
I think it’s fair to be asked to leave. It’s rude to the people standing, waiting for a table when you (who are sitting) see them obviously hungry and waiting. If you want to lounge after dinner, you should go home. Otherwise, keep ordering food or drinks so that the waitor and restaurant can make ends meet!
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The Voice
March 17th, 2009
1:27 pm
By the way…I wonder if the writer and the AJC are loaded up with lawyers to handle the libel suit that is surely pending.
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Stephanie
March 17th, 2009
1:38 pm
I have only been to Tea Leaves and Thyme once (and will never go back)about 7 years ago on a Saturday for a baby shower. I don’t think an hour and a half is enough, considering it takes a half hour just to use the restroom. They had everybody in that place packed in like sardines. You could not move, much less get up. I know you have to “drive a certain number of cattle” through to make money, but customer comfort is also important. People come in for special get togethers – it’s not ALL about YOU Mr. or Mrs. Owner.
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NSXV70
March 17th, 2009
1:38 pm
People need to quit being rude and selfish and lingering for hours to eat like they’re the only ones in the place. If you want to sit and talk for hours, eat at home. Quit holding everyone else up and making everyone lose money.
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Ron
March 17th, 2009
1:47 pm
I promise you that there is more to this story and of course the restaurant’s side. Lady said they were seated shortly after arriving. Subsequent patrons probably left and took their business elsewhere after having to wait so long for a table and there goes more profits/tips. Restaurant would probably be happy to lose this lady’s business. I assure you they were giving several subtle hints before someone had to “drop the bomb”.
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The Voice
March 17th, 2009
1:48 pm
No Stephanie….it is all about you. and I bet they don’t give a good rat’s a$$ if you ever come back
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lovelyliz
March 17th, 2009
1:49 pm
Restaurants don’t make $$$$ if they don’t move tables.
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Tyree
March 17th, 2009
1:51 pm
If you’re concerned about the time element rent a banquet hall for an entire afternoon evening. That way when you have your special event, you can spend hour upon hour in comfort and leisure. Meanwhile, be respectful and allow a business to operate as such. To turn tables in a respective time and make a profit. It’s not ALL about YOU.
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JJ
March 17th, 2009
1:54 pm
I met an old friend at Provino’s one Saturday afternoon. We had not seen each other in over 10 years. We told the waitress that we had not seen each other, and we would love to be able to sit and chat. They weren’t very busy, and we sat at that table for 3.5 hours. We tipped her very well. We also looked around, and noticed there was no one in the restaurant except us. The waitress was very accommodating, and at one point we told her we were fine, we just wanted to sit and talk. She was so very nice, and we sat and got all caught up. She never bothered us except to walk by occassionally to see if our waters were in need of refilling.
It was a very pleasant experience.
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lovelyliz
March 17th, 2009
1:56 pm
One of my friend’s mother has been a waitress for decades. Her experience is that the vast majority of lingerers don’t order much at all after their initial meal. This often means and hour or more of refills, all that service and not once more dime of revenue or tipping.
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The Voice
March 17th, 2009
2:03 pm
By the way Steph….if it takes you an hour and a half to use the bathroom I can recommend a good gastroenterologist.
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Mark
March 17th, 2009
2:17 pm
Sure, I’ll leave. But I’m taking the front door with me.
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Grandma
March 17th, 2009
2:18 pm
I’ve just spent my lunch break at work reading all the comments, yes, I’ve been a waitress, a hostess, and a guest at fine restaurants. What is my comment? What is all this fuss about? The only thing that came to mind was, how about all of the people who, in these hard times, can’t affored to buy enough groceries to feed their families. I rest my case.
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Miss Lamb
March 17th, 2009
2:20 pm
Dear Voice – Regarding your 1:18 posting – Yes, there are serious problems in the world but we can’t linger on them all the time or we would surely go crazy. There is still room for visiting restaurants AND debating about our experiences there and there is also time for meaningful (and mindless) conversation, playing cards, joking around, watching Seinfeld reruns, petting dogs, walking in the rain, reading blogs, etc., etc., etc.
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Tyree
March 17th, 2009
2:25 pm
Once again a perfect example of the rules don’t apply to me syndrome. Now, I get to play the victim. The staff prompted this party 15 minutes before. Now upon being requested to leave, she gets an attitude of I’ve been abused. The reader was not a victim of anything. Maybe in the future she will be more considerate.
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Robert
March 17th, 2009
2:27 pm
If the restaurant isn’t busy I don’t see any problem with relaxing and talking for awhile. However, I was in a breakfast restaurant recently where several groups were waiting for a table to open up and one man was sitting there slowly going through what looked like a months worth of mail. That was totally inconsiderate and rude!
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lovelyliz
March 17th, 2009
2:36 pm
My gym has signs on the machine that place a limit of 30 minutes when people are waiting.
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Ben
March 17th, 2009
2:44 pm
So does my girlfriend.
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mford
March 17th, 2009
2:47 pm
For everyone wanting the restaurant’s response: please see today’s blog post!
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Sweet Trouble
March 17th, 2009
2:49 pm
Sitting at a table for an hour and a half is too long. I’m sorry. As a woman who has both been a server and a customer I understand the need for customers to get in and get out. Most people don’t sit down with their families to dinner for an hour and a half but the expect to go out to eat and sit there forever. Sometimes its not about how many customers are in the place. What if the table you were hogging only seats 4 and there was a party of 4 waiting and there were only tables for 2 available. Should you not keep it moving. Or what if you were that servers last table in her shit and she had something to do after work but couldn’t cause you were still yapping your mouth and she couldn’t close out. I think customers should definitely be more considerate when they sit down instead of acting like its always the server!
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Dee
March 17th, 2009
2:50 pm
I’ve been waiting tables for years, and there are a *lot* of ways to silently (and politely)(and impolitely!) suggest that it’s “time to go”. But if my section isn’t full and the restaurant isn’t on a wait…then no, I don’t mind lingering.
But I also think there is more to the story than is being said.
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Lady Di
March 17th, 2009
2:57 pm
I have been eating at this restaurant for several years now and have nothing bad to say about it… the food, the service, the teas… all very good!! As for the article well… I think it is only fair that they set limits for clients… 1st of all this is a VERY busy & small restaurant. You have to make reservations several days before and have to be there ON TIME… b/c people are always waiting!! It’s an obvious assumption that one would not go there for a 2 hour lunch!?!! So, quit your wining and go to Waffle house down the street if you want to take your sweet time “Gossiping”;)
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Mark
March 17th, 2009
2:57 pm
Re: Children in restaurants. Your snotty nosed, squealing, loud, obnoxious, unparented spawns need to go to places that cater to the such. McD’s and CiCi”s are a few examples. Your spawns are only cute to YOU!! To the remainder of us, they are irritants.
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Mark
March 17th, 2009
2:59 pm
Ben, I’ll jig with her for 30 mins. She look good?
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Mike
March 17th, 2009
3:01 pm
If you know you are going to lounge around, sip tea, and chat for an extended amount of time after the meal then obviously time is not of the essence. Just be considerate enough to dine on the later side of the prime lunch hour.
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mford
March 17th, 2009
3:03 pm
Hey Ben and Mark: Knock it off, will ya?
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Pat
March 17th, 2009
3:07 pm
Good for you. I hate it when people think they are above everyone and how “they are always right” when they visit a resturant.
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DowntownGuy
March 17th, 2009
3:17 pm
Come downtown ladies for your next outing. We have plenty of wonderful places in Buckhead, Midtown, Virginia Highland, Downtown Decatur, Inman Park, the Old Fourth Ward, Poncey Highland, Candler Park and elsewhere where you can linger, gossip, chit-chat and enjoy a wonderful meal, excellent service, outdoor patios and each others company…for as long as you wish
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Scooter
March 17th, 2009
3:26 pm
Definitely okay. It appears that the two ladies were drinking 2 teas and nothing else. The restaurant is a business and it looks like they are going to be losing about $2.50 x 2 every Friday. I’m not sure they are going to be worried about the loss.
Those ladies should have a little respect and take their teas elsewhere.
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Becky
March 17th, 2009
3:27 pm
If they couldn’t eat & talk within the time that she says, they should of went elsewhere..Like others have said, she probably had been given a nicer warning & ignored it..
I have been a waitress, cook & a bartender & I’ve dealt with some very rude people that just didn’t think that they needed to tip…I know that I’m going catch flack for this, but as a rule (IMO) women don’t tip as good as men, so I’m thinking that these ladies were known for being bad tippers & that’s why the hostess may have been rude to them..
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Tyree
March 17th, 2009
3:38 pm
Respectfully, I’ve gotta disagree with you on this one Meredith. I side with the restaurant owner here. Some people, want to be unhappy. The customer is not always right. Especially, if being impolite and throwing a hissy fit. Sorry.
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catlady
March 17th, 2009
3:40 pm
Once again, the old sense of entitlement rears its ugly head. “We paid for our lunch, so we are entitled to hold this table for however long we wish.” Sounds like the restaurant owner was far nicer than I would have been. An intelligent person would not have to be told to move on, it seems to me. “It’s just us and the girls” is no excuse. What the customer could not appreciate is what if the person before HER at the table had decided to do the same thing and she had to wait for 45 minutes.
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Victoria
March 17th, 2009
3:46 pm
I lived in Europe for 2 years, mostly in London and I noticed something that I kind of liked about my dining experiences.
The waiters are paid minimum wage or higher. You do not have to tip, if you had good service, leaving between 5 and 10% is more than acceptable at even nice restaurants. The waiters are not rude, they leave you to enjoy your meal and conversation because they are not trying to hurry you out of there, cuz they are not paid a slave wage of $2 an hour. If you need something, you wave your hand and the waiter comes to see what you need.
I am surprised more people have not mentioned this as a problem in our restaurants here. I always feel rushed because I know the server needs to make money. I wish we would just pay them a respectable wage so our dining experiences could be more relaxed…
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Mark
March 17th, 2009
3:53 pm
DowntownGuy, I prefer to eat at white restaurants where I don’t have to look at the wannabe thugs and other human flotsom.
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ihorizon
March 17th, 2009
3:59 pm
Last Father’s Day, my daughter and I treated her dad to his favorite steakhouse chain restaurant for lunch. This location was the first time we had eaten there and we arrived just as doors were opened for business. We were seated right away and ordered our lunch requests. We barely took a bite of our appetizers and sipped our drinks before our salads then our lunch meal arrived promptly. Clearly seeing the overabundance of food on the table, we had no choice but ask for to-go boxes. From that perspective you can clearly see that we were being rushed through our meal. My husband was disappointed at the way this meal was been handled on his special day. And worst part was there were hardly any patrons inside to justify the rush. We didn’t complain as we chalked it up to special day jitters and visited again a couple times thereafter. The second visit went smoothly but the third visit I had politely requested a booth near a window as it was somewhat dark inside. The waiter promptly refused and I was shocked to be denied this request as this again was early lunch and there were very few patrons. I had explained my reasons and still denied. Needless to say we did not feel comfortable eating there so we kept to our regular steakhouse location and let this steakhouse know this was “our home”.
Another incident took place a few years ago where I would occassionally drive the two hours to visit my family in Middle Georgia. They don’t have call ahead seating in some establishments there so we would just all drive up and meet up at the restaurant and put in one name and how many in the party as a group (usually about 9 of us). The wait time is usually one and a half hour. Well, this one particular time we were seated all but two as they were running few minutes behind, the manager stopped by our corner booth table to complain that we were not to be seated until our remaining patrons are here which my relatives explained they will be inside shortly. In fact they were trying to get into the lobby full of patrons. He wouldn’t let the matter go so finally I spoke up and said, Sir, we eat here often and seeing that I personally drove from Atlanta to meet my family and I alone picked this place to eat, I don’t think you should be harsh as you are to us. Secondly, rest of our party is outside trying to come in through your lobby so if you would kindly seat them so we can eat. Otherwise, I need the number to your district manager and another restaurant! I never clearly understood why we were seated first after waiting all that time and then denied the table – after seating us!!! He desperately tried his best to remedy the mood and apologize to us all but the damage was done. We had a laugh much later but it shows sometimes it is not the customers that is out of line.
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Spring for a Babysitter, for Gawd's Sake
March 17th, 2009
4:03 pm
Mark, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I refuse to eat at what I call “Crap on the Wall” restaurants (chain restaurants with all kinds of decorative stuff on the walls) because it’s a haven for selfish, oblivious parents with obnoxious kids. The sad thing is, even the more upscale places in ATL are becoming overrun with loud kids banging silverware, screaming, running around, climbing over booths, etc. And, no, I don’t hate kids. I just believe that there are certain places, like strip clubs, First Class cabins and nice restaurants, where they should not be allowed.
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Business Traveler
March 17th, 2009
4:37 pm
I am a woman and an excellent tipper (Becky)and a great customer. At the end of my meal I am usually complimented on how wonderful it is to wait on me.
That being said, I was in a resturant two years ago with some co-workers. We ordered appetizers, entrees, desserts and after dinner drinks. We continued to order. We were celebrating a large deal. The waitress came by a few times and we could tell she was anxious. I asked her if she needed the table. She stated yes, that it was one of the favorites. I told her no problem. She offered us two additional rounds of drinks in the bar section. We gladly took the drinks and left a hefty tip. She went out of her way to come and thank us (and chat with us) at the bar.
“Table turn” is how they make their money. If you are going to chat it up, go at non-peak hours. It is common sense and decency.
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cubalibre
March 17th, 2009
4:39 pm
I side with the restaurant here, too, with the caveat that there is always a nice way to ask patrons to relinquish their tables. Regardless of how long the ladies were taking over their lunch, there was no reason for the hostess to be rude or abrupt, as it is not difficult for one to be firm and polite at the same time. If, in fact, the restaurant does have a 1 & 1/2 hour time limit, this should definitely be posted in a conspicuous place (I didn’t see the time limit posted anywhere on their website– if it’s this important to them, then they might want to remedy that). I agree with the poster who commented about the restaurants in Europe; I’ve had service that varied from great to mediocre (just like here), but never did I feel rushed or hurried along (in fact, in London, most establishments have two price tiers: one for dine-in, and one for take-away).
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reservoirDAWG
March 17th, 2009
4:40 pm
Victoria, they could be paid a respestable wage. Keep in mind though, prices would double and these little snots that wait tables would still expect a 15-20% tip.
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MIke
March 17th, 2009
4:44 pm
All the problems caused when the business expects the customer to pay the employee’s salary directly. If they would pay properly, where a tip was assumed to be voluntary and a reward for exceptional service and the employee could still receive a fair wage, we wouldn’t have as many of these issues. Regardless of the minimum wage law, the business should should the responsibility of paying their employees fairly.
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Jason
March 17th, 2009
4:50 pm
If you want to know the true colors of someone, just watch how they treat the staff at a restaurant.
Having been a waiter, and now eat out every day because I travel for work, “the customer is always right” motto is only appropriate when they act like a customer. If they go way beyond that, you can use the (what would a reasonable person do) test to figure that out yourself, then it’s not a bad thing for the customer to get fired. Anybody “customer” who treats a waiter, waitress or establishment with a complete lack of respect should be fired.
If a manager and/or owner has their staff’s back, then they tend to retain their best staff. Anyplace that has a consistent staff will always have better service than a place with a lot of turnover. Alfredo’s is the BEST example of this.
It looks like this tea place has been around for a while, so they’re doing something right.
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Dino
March 17th, 2009
4:57 pm
I would never return to a restaurant that moved me out before I was ready. If that’s their policy in this economy, they will not last long.
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Tyree
March 17th, 2009
4:58 pm
Mark, make sure your spelling is correct. It’s human flotsam. If you’re going to try and be disparaging to an entire community, at least get the spelling correct of your sophomoric, racist hurls right.
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Elite Restaurant Manager
March 17th, 2009
5:06 pm
At my restaurant (one of the nicer places in the city) we have to deal with all kind of rude customers complaining about every little thing plus all the unsophisticated rif raf that doesn’t know how to act in a nice place. Plus, they don’t tip the servers very well. In our facility, 30% tips are expected and if you leave less than that, you should go to cattle troughs like Chilis or O’Charleys, with the rest of the cheapos. If you come to my restaurant, you shouldn’t linger, since we always have a waiting list of important customers who want the table when they come and don’t like to wait.
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lovelyliz
March 17th, 2009
5:09 pm
Isn’t it amazing how rude behavior is usually defined as behavior we would not want others to impose on us?
I still remember working my way through college in a restaurant where people would regularly come in 10 minutes before we were due to close and sit for and hour chit chatting.
Staff should be courteous to the customer, but that should be returned by the customer.
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Walt
March 17th, 2009
5:15 pm
You have obviously never been a server. Have a little self awareness, if people are waiting on a table and you are sitting there talking, you are rude. Consider other patrons, and the servers who are there to make a living, not to cater your conversation.
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big mac
March 17th, 2009
6:16 pm
the restaurant owner is right. sometimes you just have a customer who is a trouble maker.
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big mac
March 17th, 2009
6:18 pm
how come you dont respond meredith?
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FoodKing
March 17th, 2009
6:19 pm
The U.S. should adopt the European system—pay workers a fair wage and abolish tipping, except for exceptional service, which is rare in the restaurants I go to. Many servers act like they are doing you some big favor by bringing drinks and food, and get annoyed when you ask for anything else.
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chris
March 17th, 2009
7:32 pm
I woke in the hospitality industry as well and feel the customer is not always right, sometimes they are drinking or just unhappy people who feel their server is there to be abused. Kids are fine if they are dining, realize again the server is not there to babysit and just as you would get angry at a yipping dog while you eat your kids can be just the same to other diners. One this is odd and the main point of the thread, while I have worked at places with 2 seatings(time limits on tables) its not on this places website. Should be if that’s the basic rule, state it politely with the tea menu, all tea services not to exceed 1.5 hours or something along those lines.
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oldandntheway
March 17th, 2009
9:38 pm
I think the world would be a better place if everyone had to work for tips at some point in their life.
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DB
March 18th, 2009
4:41 am
I hope they lose all their customers. I can not fathom being asked to leave a “ladies who lunch” tea party, unless I was having a psychotic episode in public.
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Steve
March 18th, 2009
7:12 am
I’m with the restaurant on this one. Those ladies are what is wrong with this country. Everyone feeling entitled and owed something. Thoses stupid women should not have been so inconsiderate of those around her. I will gladly go and eat at this restaurant very soon. Good going Jordy!!!!!
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tc
March 18th, 2009
10:54 am
Sounds like the customer was at least partly to blame, which brings up the modern translation of the old rule:
“The customer may not always be right, but the customer is always the customer, and that gives him the right to be wrong.”
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Tom
March 18th, 2009
11:18 am
I disagree with Meredith. Hospitality over hostility? Sounds like your friend was the one offering up a heaping portion of hostility, not the restaurant. It sounds to me like the restaurant really bent over backwards for her, but like they said some people just cannot be pleased no matter what.
Like I and many suspected and voiced yesterday, there was indeed “another side” to this story – that of the restaurant, and I am very glad you followed up with their side. It sounds as if the only way that this customer would be satisfied was if she and her friends were allowed to camp out indefinitely at that table. She was not willing to settle for anything less. So I still side with the restaurant on this incident, as such an attitude goes beyond unreasonable. Perhaps this party should have booked enough reservations so they could stay all day.
Victoria – you must have missed yesterday’s discussion – the issue of “Wages and Not Tips” did indeed come up.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
March 18th, 2009
1:28 pm
Big Mac: Dude, I’ve responded three times to these two threads. I’ve said my peace/piece.
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It's simply complex
March 18th, 2009
9:39 pm
I think Jason is on the right track. Like any situation involving the public at large, there is a basic social contact when dining out. You, the customer, behave in a civil manner, which basically means being *considerate* to all parties involved (other customers, staff, owners, etc.). In return, the staff will provide an experience that is as comfortable and enjoyable as they can. Finally, the customer pays the bill and tips according to the level of service (current societal norms are 10% for crappy, but not unacceptable, service to 20%+ for exceptional service. Like it or not, these ARE the socially acceptable guidelines. Any lower and you ARE a bad tipper, accept it.) Therefore, if the either party doesn’t honor their duties under the contract, then corrective action is justified. In this case, Meridith, you’re right, to an extent. The restaurant should attempt to resolve the matter in congenial manner, which it sounds like the owner did (but how one does something is just as important as what he or she does). After the owner has made such an attempt, then it is his or her right as a business owner to throw ‘em out! Basically, it’s about all parties being considerate of those around them. Let’s work together people!
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Joannah
March 21st, 2009
10:00 am
I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.
Joannah
http://myscones.com
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phar71
March 23rd, 2009
4:09 pm
It is opening tomorrow huh? Lot of hype around this one, hope it comes through. About to fly to NY for a couple of days, and have some good pie, hopefully this will deliver.
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foodieman
March 23rd, 2009
10:02 pm
varasano is getting all this press, he is not going to be able to handle the crowd. especially since this is his first place.
its going to get ugly. all the blogs love him now, but how fast will they turn on him? he is getting more hype that FLIP. can you make a pizza as fast as you make a burger? his oven better be HUGE.
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March 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
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phar71
March 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
So is anyone planning on going tonight? And if you do feedback would be great!
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Happy Girl
March 26th, 2009
12:09 am
Looking forward to a fantastic pizza Friday night!
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Jennifer Brett
March 26th, 2009
4:37 pm
Brad: me too!
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Stan
March 27th, 2009
4:57 pm
The salt shaker has more/larger holes. The pepper “shaker” has to be twisted to get the pepper out.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
March 27th, 2009
4:59 pm
Stan — thanks, but to be precise, that’s not a pepper shaker. It’s a pepper mill. Salt mills exist, too.
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foodieman
March 28th, 2009
7:20 pm
man..your blog topics are wack. im staying on CL. they are much more interesting.
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Happy Girl
March 29th, 2009
11:04 pm
Excellent pizza. Great cucumber martini’s. Definetly get the sugar donuts.
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Stan
March 30th, 2009
10:08 am
I’ve never had one, nor had I even herd of it until last week when I saw one made on Tyler’s Ultimate on Food Network.
I does sound good, with booze, I don’t care for lemon in my tea though. Tyler did his with a frozen lemonade.
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Stan
March 30th, 2009
10:10 am
Meridith,
Yes I’m well aware that it is NOT a shaker, hence the “”, it was intended to be humorous. Please lower the tip of your nose a few degrees.
Thanks
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Meridith Ford Goldman
March 30th, 2009
11:36 am
Sorry it was lost on me ….
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reservoirDAWG
March 30th, 2009
1:24 pm
No booze. One of my favorite refreshments.
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Toren Anderson
March 30th, 2009
11:51 pm
This book is a treasure and we are so grateful for Hans’ creativity and the amount of LIFE captured in the pages. We wish Hans and his family all good things. Buy this book! Thanks for covering the story for foodies, farmers and lovers of life.
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Chris Hornaday
March 30th, 2009
11:54 pm
It’s a great book with incredible images of life, food, family and all the South has to offer. I encourage you all to purchase this book from http://www.outofzbleu.com as Sarah the owner gives all proceeds to Hans and his family. Hans has just returned from M.D.Anderson and is still fighting to be well. Regardless, the book is a treasure and we are so glad to own a copy. Best to Hans in his recovery.
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It's A Sad Situation
March 31st, 2009
9:09 am
This is a sick topic.
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KARL MARTIN
March 31st, 2009
9:22 am
I WOULD LIKE A SAVORY, SPICY CURRY, WITH VEGETABLESSHRIMP OR CHICKEN
AND CHUTNEY
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KARL MARTIN
March 31st, 2009
9:23 am
CURRY, CURRY AND MORE CURRY
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Voice of Reason #1
March 31st, 2009
9:34 am
Asparagus and organic anything–not on the list. I’d have two Chambord martinis; crab cakes; unlimited crab legs (where someone has pulled the long, succulent meat out of the shells for me) with clarified butter dripping from the tips as I slide the crab meat down my throat; garlic mashed potatoes, sauteed spinach; creme brulee and MY sweet potato pie–a whole one. Eaten freely, without guilt. [And I'm now "Voice of Reason #1" since someone has periodically used my username!]
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none
March 31st, 2009
10:00 am
whatever Comrade Obama allows me to have
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Becky
March 31st, 2009
10:14 am
Voice of Reason #1, I agree your last meal except maybe the creamed spinach..Of course I would also be happy with fried pork chops, fried potaotes & biscuits..This is something that right now, I only eat maybe 1-2 times a year..Also the sweet potato pie, when my Mother made them for me as a teenager, she would put a merainge(sp) topping on them & sprinkle coconut on top..Talk about to die for…
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Mac
March 31st, 2009
10:21 am
Two slabs of ribs, one from Dreamland in Tuscaloosa and one from T.C. Barbecue in Jacksonville, Fla.
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Mac
March 31st, 2009
10:24 am
Oh, and a couple dozen fried oysters from Cedar River Seafood in Hilliard, Fla. And, you might as well throw in a double order of hot wings from Three Dollar Cafe. Obviously, it’s the meal that’s gonna kill me. And, I’d like the hot blonde for an appetizer. Two of them in fact.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
March 31st, 2009
10:26 am
ESR: Blonde? Brunettes are so much more fun …
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Mary Lou Respess
March 31st, 2009
10:32 am
When my husband received a doctor’s report of terminal cancer, he headed to the Varsity for a chili dog. As we are both native born Atlantans, I’d do the same!
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Kunkel
March 31st, 2009
10:46 am
Gino’s East Suprme with Pepperoni AND sausage (the patty, not the crumbles), and a pitcher of draft 312. Sorry Lou Malnati’s. If I got a second to last meal, I’d be on your doorstep too.
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Kay
March 31st, 2009
11:17 am
Being a southern girl, I’ll have to go with fried chicken, mac & cheese and collard greens. Oh and if I had time anything from Wyatt’s Diner.
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hotgirl
March 31st, 2009
11:21 am
Enchiladas. LOVE them.
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TRS421
March 31st, 2009
11:34 am
If you grew up in Atlanta then you should know it’s the Masters…no apostrophe.
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2muchmusic
March 31st, 2009
11:42 am
My aunt’s fried chicken and chicken and dumplings, home grown tomatoes, and a big warm brownie with NO NUTS and a scoop of vanilla ice cream.
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MChammer
March 31st, 2009
12:00 pm
Country style steak, mashed potatoes and gravy, fried okra, turnip greens.
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wartdog
March 31st, 2009
12:02 pm
It would have to be Danish lobster tails and a glass of Pescivino wine wisth a side of pasta marinara… if someone knows where I can get that let me know!
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jakesdad
March 31st, 2009
12:03 pm
at the risk of starting a flame war Gino’s has got to be one of the most over-rated restaurants in the US. good? yes. best pizza in the universe? only in their dreams. I’d take a Mellow Mushroom house special over them any day of the week. back in the late 80s I’d have gone w/Everybody’s but they seemed to go downhill in the 90s (haven’t been in 10+ yrs).
either way mine would involve a NY strip smothered in stilton cheese, a lobster tail & an extremely expensive bottle of cab
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Blake Warenik
March 31st, 2009
1:02 pm
Hans is one of the few true authors to put his name to a cookbook. Compared to “Eat Like There’s No Tomorrow” most cookbooks seem like a disjointed folder of recipes and shallow anecdotes. Hans writes and cooks like a virtuoso and produces the kind of cookbook equally at home in the kitchen and on the coffee table. His stories and photography are a vivid reminder of how guttural the desire for good food is and why it may be the most meaningful expression of life.
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Valerie
March 31st, 2009
1:08 pm
This is a serious subject and I highly advise you all to GET THE BOOK. What could have been Hans’ last meal wasn’t and I feel so lucky to know him. Follow his blog to get a better understanding. This is not a joking matter. Hanscooks.com
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Ellijay Stranger
March 31st, 2009
2:37 pm
I don’t know this family but have watched Hans cooking show over the years. I can tell you that this cookbook reads more like a novel than a cookbook. It is so rich and well presented that it proudly sits on my coffee table rather than on a kitchen shelf. The crisp, clear photography is rare for a cookbook or any other type of book.
I also look forward to buying his line of spices.
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Deborah
March 31st, 2009
3:06 pm
Hans’ cookbook is beautifully written and photographed. It’s become an instant favorite at our home and the recipes and family stories are heartwarming. Hans, may you find healing.
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Rhett
March 31st, 2009
4:03 pm
This is a BEAUTIFUL topic & I thank Hans for being heroic enough to share his experience & thank MFord for publishing it. Having assisted a few family members through terminal illness, I think people need to know what the affected person is going through & how to best assist him/her in his/her time of need. I think I’ll have all the shellfish I could stomach. I have such severe allergic reactions now that I’d prefer to be dead than deal with the whelts and itchiness.
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BobH
March 31st, 2009
6:19 pm
I wish I was half the cook Hans is…and I wish I was half the truly good person Hans is.
The book is a work of art…visually, as a piece of writing, and spiritually.
By the way, it’s got some damn good recipes as a bonus.
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BC
March 31st, 2009
11:16 pm
I read this book cover to cover the day I got it. I could not put it down. It is not just a cookbook. Buy it. Read it. Now.
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Karena
April 1st, 2009
8:53 am
This cookbook is not just a cookbook…Its a life story about a wonderful family with a history of being in a kitchen. Hans is heroic and is the most positive person I know. The pictures are amazing! This is well worth the $. Check out his blog and see what prayer and positive attitude will do to cancer! Hans’ has made so many people appreciate the little things in life and not to take anything for granted. Truly an amazing person!
Karena
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Lorrie
April 1st, 2009
11:18 am
This collection of recipes, beautiful photos and entertaining anecdotes is precious. Read between the lines– this is the legacy of an authentic soul and loving father to his children, not unlike The Last Lecture. Even if you hate cooking and have no intention of banging pots around, you should read this book, and then reread it, quote it and share it.
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Dave
April 1st, 2009
6:33 pm
Meredith Ford Goldman
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AJ
April 2nd, 2009
7:34 am
Great marketing idea for the slowest night of the week. I know where I’m heading next Monday!
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reservoirDAWG
April 2nd, 2009
12:55 pm
That is one of my favorites. Scrambled eggs, cheese grits, sausage links almost burnt and biscuits. Mmmmmmmmm!
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Dan Waldron
April 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
I’ve been reading along for a while now. I just wanted to drop you a comment to say keep up the good work.
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Lauren
April 3rd, 2009
4:22 pm
Interesting….I guess I never really thought about it. I can totally see how it would be uncomfortable though. To my recollection I haven’t been touched by many servers. I am not a fan of when they use inappropriate nicknames for your age group like “champ” or “baby”. Thanks for the thought provoking post
Lauren
http://www.atlantafoodblog.com
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reservoirDAWG
April 6th, 2009
10:02 am
Only at the Pink Pony, Cheetah or the Oasis.
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Jennifer Brett
April 6th, 2009
1:59 pm
Never! Hands off the Butterfly!
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kwazzi
April 6th, 2009
11:26 pm
depends on the waiter and where they touch you
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Atlantaguy
April 7th, 2009
12:30 am
If you’re gonna touch me, you’d better buy me dinner first.
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Vandelay
April 7th, 2009
1:07 am
Never………..
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AlG
April 7th, 2009
8:23 am
I’ve had waiters put a hand on the back of my chair, but not on my back! I agree–I keep my hands off them, they do likewise.
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Charles
April 7th, 2009
8:48 am
Since you bring up the gaffe by Mrs. Obama it’s funny how the mainstream press has treated this incident. If Mrs. Bush has done the same thing the Congress/Talking Heads would have asked for an impeachment, an apology from President Bush and his immediate resignation.
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AtlKat
April 7th, 2009
1:29 pm
I can’t stand it when waiters pull up a chair and sit at your table with you – this has happened to me on numerous occasions. What makes them assume this level of familiarity? I’ll never know.
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robo
April 8th, 2009
11:32 am
Another breach…assuming that because they are waiting my table that I want to have some kind of long conversation with them. Hey, I would have invited the waiter to lunch if I’d wanted to chat.
Another one…restaurant managers interrupting my conversations to ask me if everything is okay. First off, I’ll let you know if there’s a problem. And don’t you love when someone says, “I don’t want to interrupt, but…” and then they proceed to interrupt?
I just hate that.
Dang. I’ve turned into Andy Rooney.
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Stan
April 8th, 2009
12:24 pm
Meh, I don’t reallly care. I mean as long as we aren’t talking about a hug or something, that’d be kinda weird. I see the First lady faux pas as a non issue, generally my feelings about a slightly too friendly waiter/waitress.
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Cathy
April 8th, 2009
12:51 pm
People, get a grip! Life is too short to worry about little things like a waiter touching you. Yes, a touch from ‘a mere servant’ can be seen as a breach of protocol in some circles. But we’re not talking bear hugs or sexual assault here. We’re simply discussing a quick touch that’s friendlier than a handshake. Some people feel warmly towards others – regardless of that that person’s station in life – and feel that such connection can best be displayed with a warm human touch.
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Rabid Dog
April 8th, 2009
12:53 pm
Not unless they want to draw back a nub.
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jon
April 8th, 2009
1:24 pm
Robo you shouild be happy people actually care enough to ask how everything is would you rather have them do that or keep talking and then oops im out of water and nobody cares!!!!!!
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Personal Space Please
April 8th, 2009
4:11 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with the quote from T.J. I served tables back in the day, I never touched my customers, AND I brought in great tips. You can be friendly and cordial and still respect someone’s personal space. I also dislike the use of inappropriate pet names.
I’m not your “baby”, so what makes you think I want you to refer to me as such? It definitely won’t help your tip – in fact – it will likely do the opposite.
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Darin
April 8th, 2009
4:54 pm
Some people are more comfortable with be touched by strangers than others. Personally, my skin crawls when a stranger intentionally puts a hand on my shoulder or arm. Weird? Maybe, but I know I’m not alone in having that reaction.
If the waiter was a friend or if I was a repeat customer with and was familiar with the waiter, I’d feel OK with touching. Otherwise, I think it’s best to err on the side of caution and avoid touching customers. And it’s not about feeling “above” a “servant” — I don’t think of waiters as servants, just as customer service reps for a business like any other — it’s about getting creepy touches from any stranger.
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GRITSiam
April 9th, 2009
2:11 pm
No touching. No nicknames. You do not know me, do not touch me or give me a nickname. Both are rude and decrease your tip.
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grtsvr
April 9th, 2009
4:28 pm
I work in a restaurant that has a large base of “regulars.” I have customers who hug me which I’m okay with because I know them. If I don’t know you, I won’t touch you, and don’t want you touching me. The worst is when a customer will try to take something out of my apron, like a straw or a pen, instead of asking me for it. The apron is absolutely a NO TOUCHING ZONE!
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Phil Lanier
April 12th, 2009
12:49 pm
Does anyone get the sense that this whole issue has taken on far greater significance than it deserves. The lady with her panties in a wad over being asked to leave apparently has nothing better to do than be (gasp!) offended. Yes, the situation could have been handled better, and usually is, but we’re only hearing her side. And after all, this was just a bunch of friends out for a little lollygagging one afternoon, not the dinner of a lifetime. Jeez Louise. Feel pity for this poor soul, because if she sweats little stuff like this, just think how she handles the BIG STUFF. The whole thing sounds like Billy Bob Thornton’s “victimization” on Canadian National Broadcasting. In other words, one big yawn. Fuhgedaboutit!
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Phil Lanier
April 12th, 2009
12:54 pm
God help me, I’ve got to get over there!
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Phil Lanier
April 12th, 2009
1:01 pm
Sure, it’s okay if it’s appropriate and we’ve established a common wavelength during our time at the restaurant. A little touch on the shoulder? No problem. We’re not so precious that we’re off limits to mere mortals. However, if it turns into a “Bellisima” act from Saturday Night Live, that’s another story. No one, and I mean no one, gets to latch onto my wife’s leg like a Chihuaha…but me.
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KennesawDave
April 12th, 2009
1:09 pm
Meridith,
I’m afraid to admit this at my age(35) but I’m just as guilty as your daughter and her friend. I haven’t been to Dahlonega in a while but I do remember when my family and I would go for a day trip my sister and I couldn’t wait to go into the fudge factory. If we behaved ourselves that was our reward. I was and still am a traditionalist so I always got the typical fudge with nuts. My sister if I recall would always get either Penut Butter or one of the other flavors. I need to get back up there sometime and take my sister with me before she gets married just for nostalga. The candy store in Helen, GA isn’t bad either. If I remember correctly it’s called the Hansel & Grettle candy shop. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Easter!
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KennesawDave
April 12th, 2009
1:27 pm
I would agree with Darin. I’ve been a frequent customer at a few places on my side of town and I don’t mind a 1/2 hug(1 arm around the weist) from a server that has waited on me in the past on numerous occasions. But if I’m at a new place that I’ve never been then I tend to concur with everyone else, don’t get overly frindly. I remember the first time I went to Outback Steakhouse. The waitress/waiter actaully sat down next to me and got kind of close and acted as if they were a close friend of the family while they asked us what we wanted to drink. My parents were a little taken aback by that as well. Although, I must admit just from a typical guy’s point of view, if the server is attractive to me I really won’t kick up a fuss if they are a little more friendly than “Hi my name is so-and-so I’ll be your server today can I get you started with something to drink?”
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KennesawDave
April 12th, 2009
1:38 pm
Meridith,
You’re taking me back to my childhood again. I can remember growing up my Mom would often do a breakfast for dinner night. Usually when my Dad was out of town on business. We would usually do French Toast but if my Mom wasn’t too whiped out we would every now and then get to have pancakes. To this day, sometimes I will fix breakfast for dinner. Usually some scrambled eggs with cheese(3 or 4)some grits if I’m not too worn out from the day and if I don’t have to work the next day I’ll make some coffee for good measure. Given we’re talking about dinner hour I should probably brew decaf but I don’t believe in it. It defeats the purpose of drinking coffee.
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Phil Lanier
April 12th, 2009
1:43 pm
God, we’re drowning in cookbooks, but this one really does sound like an unique tome — after all, what is food, if not about life and death, right?
As for my last supper, it wouldn’t be held sittin’ around a table with a bunch of swinging richards in sack cloth, that’s for sure. Instead, it would be served to me, my wife and daughter at a table in St. Lucia or St. John, overlooking an ocean sunset. It would be a meal of small plates, like little moments, like those that make up a life. We’d share memories, laughs and dreams. Bittersweet.
I’d start things off with a mix of Pacific Coast and Atlantic oysters on the half shell, foie gras swimming in a port/fruit compote, and a nice helping of unctuous pickled sea urchin eggs. We’d wash it down with crisp cava or champagne.
Next, we’d have bites of roast fish cheeks, soft shell crab — and for me, fugu (what’s to lose, right?). Heck, why not some glasses of vino verde or Albarino with this?
When the tingling from the fugu wears off, I’ll tuck into my favorite veggies, especially okra Madras style, southern mixed greens with pepper vinegar, roast brussel sprouts and beets, and cream corn. Maybe pair that with a Beaujolais.
Next, I gotta have linguine in red clam sauce with a bit o’ kick to it. And a glass of chianti.
Then, bring on Hungarian roast duck with caraway seeds, sauteed sweetbreads, slices of roast elk, Persian stuffed grape leaves and Greek-style thin lamb chops. Gimme a Zinfandel for this, because what is life i without a little Zin.
Final course is the killer: small portions of deep, rich chocolate mousse, tiramasu, cheese assortment with quince compote, and fresh fruit. And, one BIG bottle of superlative Sauterne to top it all off.
Now, kill me, please. Or pass the alkaseltzer.
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KennesawDave
April 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
Maybe I’m just not sophisticated enough or I can’t convince my palate to try something like? But to me it’s almost blasphomy to mix chocolate and beer into 1 concoction let alone pair them up. Granted, this is just my opinion but gracious that just sounds yuck! And the funny thing is I like beer and chocolate both. But you’ll never catch me ingesting both at the same time or pairing them up. But hey if it floats someone else’s boat, more power to them.
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em
April 13th, 2009
2:05 pm
Trips to the mountains are a favorite past time for my husbad & I. We also love to stop at a great little locally owned restaurant in Gainesville right at the foothills of the North Georgia Mountains. They have a GREAT unique menu with local & organic veggies. Also everything is made in house! Try their salad meal with your choice of 3 sides & a hunk of the chefs fresh bread. And when I say sides I dont mean cream corn & mashed potatoes no sir….wonderful creations that feed our soul on every weekend adventure.
check them out @ http://www.2DogRestaurant.com
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Sierra
April 13th, 2009
3:43 pm
Are you kidding? No, waiters shouldn’t touch you. And more importantly, you shouldn’t touch your waiter! I’ve been a server for over five years and am shocked at how often guests touch me. Often they do it when arguing over will pay the bill but I think any contact should be avoided. Every time a guest grabs my wrist as a walk by, swats my hand away from a plate, or even reaches to get a pen out of my apron (that I’m wearing!) I am shocked and offended.
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me
April 16th, 2009
4:36 pm
I don’t want my server to touch me. I don’t want my server to talk to me. I don’t want my server to look at me. It shocks and offends me if I have any human contact at all. What is wrong with you people? I personally love to go into a restaurant and have a colorful server. I love it when they are fun. If they touch my arm in a gesture of kindness…why would I be offended at that? If they touch my junk that is another matter. Who am I kidding? They can touch my junk as well. Get over it people. It is ok to be human.
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Pennington and Shirley
April 20th, 2009
11:09 pm
There’s no crime in Atlanta. That’s just a PERCEPTION.
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HoldTheSalt
April 21st, 2009
2:21 am
Where, indeed? Last time I went to Season’s 52, a few weeks ago, the low-sodium options had been eliminated from the menu. I’ve enjoyed the very low sodium “spa cuisine” from Chin Chin, though. I could eat it every night. Decline the sauce that is offered on the side. It is wonderful as is. http://www.chinchinonline.com/menu.php?location=2&cat=Spa+Cuisine
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john
April 21st, 2009
5:48 am
let me see -
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April 21st, 2009
5:58 am
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mustang100
April 21st, 2009
7:27 am
The waitress can touch me anywhere, anytime. She just better watch the wife though.
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Adittohead
April 21st, 2009
8:02 am
HONESTLY think the Atlanta-Obama-Journal loves to write on crime stories to sell papers. CRIME comes with “diversity” & urban life. You want DIVERSITY…..Crime comes with it..Liberalism
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Adittohead
April 21st, 2009
8:07 am
Don’t remember reading about increases in crime in urban areas during the GREAT DEPRESSION. Like I said, with DIVERSITY, the mixture of rich & poor in same area…the people left on the margins will pick up guns…..Atlanta is a breeding ground for crime.
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Isthatcode
April 21st, 2009
8:47 am
Is DIVERSITY code for a racial class? If so, I agree. Some feel entitled, and something should be theirs because they want it. Hey. Newsflash: The rest of us work to get what we want. My income has decreased by some $25k in the past year. I do not feel as though I need to buy a weapon and take from those that have more than me.
Hey Aditto. This economy was inherited. Wonder what it would look like if there had been no GWB?
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SAR
April 21st, 2009
8:58 am
I am convinced of two things in regards to crime in Atlanta. One is that only the general population seems to be concerned about crime and not the elected city and county offcials of the metro area. If you say something about the rise in crime you’re considered racist. Why is this? Is it because everyone knows who it is out there doing most of the crime and if you mention crime, they know who you’re talking about. The second being that attitudes toward crimes must be cultural. What else can explain the lenient jury decisions we have seen lately. When Brian Nichols was not given the death penalty we said that in Atlanta we do not put balck people to death. There’s been on ONE death penalty conviction in DeKalb county in twenty years and how many murders have we had in DeKalb in twenty years? We do put white men on death row. Research it and see the numbers. Black voters in Atlanta will never elect a white male that’s tough on crime to any position of power. As a result of this, much like in Clayton County…..we have gotten just what we paid for.
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Melissa's Mom
April 21st, 2009
9:00 am
Please don’t make excuses for the thieves and thugs! The low-lifes doing this didn’t just lose their job and decide to become a criminal to make ends meet. They are good for nothing, lazy bandits who think they are entitled to your hard earned stuff. (If I sound bitter, it’s because my home was burglarized a few weeks ago. The b..tards kicked in my back door and stole all of our toys.) I’ve been poor and it never occured to me to take someone’s else’s stuff.
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Mel
April 21st, 2009
9:41 am
What’s sad is that I would LOVE to live in the city but refuse to, strictly because of the thugs/crime. It’s pretty sad. They have even caused problems at Atlantic Station already. And people wonder why the “white flight” thing took place decades ago? Because they knew what was coming! Pretty funny how you never see racist Jackson or racist Sharpton have “protests” against all of the crime the thugs cause.
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Melissa's Mom
April 21st, 2009
10:07 am
It’s not only non-whites commiting crimes in Atlantic Station. I met my daughters there for lunch one Wednesday, and before they arrived, I was verbally abused by 2 white punks. They looked old enough to know better, but they were smoking cigarettes and wearing baggy pants and slouching around. I never even glanced their way before they walked up in front of me and started their BS. Little a-holes! Am I just having bad luck or does this happen to everyone?
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Hawking
April 21st, 2009
10:10 am
What about all the MIKE VICK SUPPORTERS who continue to N-E-V-E-R tip their servers, no matter how impeccable the service may be?
Should we consider that a “restaurant crime,” too?
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DJ
April 21st, 2009
10:16 am
You people are hilarious… By Mike Vick supporters I’m assuming you are saying blacks. Of course, you’ll just deny that like you people (read between the lines) like you always do.
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SAR
April 21st, 2009
10:17 am
I have heard people blame it on the economy. That’s a joke. Look at some of the people on the videos they’re looking for and you tell me if those criminals ever had a real job and that they’re victims of a bad economy. The only part of a bad economy that affects them is that the pool of victims may be smaller. How many of them came here with one parent from New Orleans post Katrina? Do a study on that one Mayor Franklin, with her open arms and open wallet policy towards so called Katrina victims.
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Angelique
April 21st, 2009
10:50 am
As a waitress who works very hard to put myself through school, I absolutely hate to wait on some (not all) of those so-called Mike Vick “Fans.” So often, (not always) those particular people will complain to my manager about something that didn’t happen with either the food (a non-existent hair in the pasta) or the service (server got their order wrong) in order to get part of or their entire meal for free. If some of them don’t get what they want in terms of a partial or complete “comped” meal right when they want it, they threaten to sue us and get all of us fired for mistreating them. On top of that, they don’t even leave a minimal tip, either. Why do people have to be like that just to get free stuff and hurt other people?
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Donut King
April 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
Smaller donuts??? Are you serious? I can’t put down a dozen of hot Krispy Kreme glazed donuts in 20 minutes after a hard night of partying at the clubs. Keep those donuts big and hot baby!!!
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Drew
April 29th, 2009
6:55 pm
Let’s see… Teens arrested for $100,000 damage to Canton church… Girl, 13, stabbed getting off school bus … Argument led to deadly gunfight, police say … Mother killed in Snellville store parking lot … So much crime in Atla– er, wait… all those crime headlines (copied verbatim from the AJC today) happened in the SUBURBS!
Go ahead suburbanites, keep cowering in your make-believe “crime-free” paradise… while you sit in traffic waiting to turn onto your dead end street miles from nowhere, we’ll be walking down sidewalks, through parks and to interesting destinations here in the city… with probably the same amount of crime around us as you have in the suburbs.
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West End Sprinkler
April 29th, 2009
8:23 pm
When that “hot doughnuts” sign starts to flash at the West End store, it’s like a big magnet that sucks the cars into their parking lot & drive thru in 30 seconds flat. Who da heck wants smaller doughnuts?? KK doughnuts have been the diamond ring on my finger, since I could talk. If the frequency in the “hot doughnuts” sign would increase, there wouldn’t be a need to downsize the company. Go back to the old supply & demand rule of Econ 101 and keep those big dougnuts coming!!
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Who cares?
May 4th, 2009
1:38 pm
Who cares? No one can afford to eat out anymore anyway.
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Jerry
May 4th, 2009
1:43 pm
Get a life !!!
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Spalding Drive homeowner
May 4th, 2009
1:47 pm
this is stupid…..is ‘mford’ paid for this?
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bigedatl
May 4th, 2009
1:58 pm
Dante’s Down the Hatch. Been several years since I have been there, but our tiny table barely held the food, wine glasses, and the pot of boiling hot oil. Oh, it was a little rickety also. We actually discussed if one of us would be doused in oil before the evening ended.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
2:03 pm
They have some good size tables at Cashin’s and Baby Doe’s Matchless Mine.
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bbb
May 4th, 2009
2:14 pm
we don’t get to eat out enough to be picky about table size. We are just grateful to be able to afford to eat. Feeling guilty?
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dan
May 4th, 2009
2:17 pm
Why would someone feel guilty about eating out, bbb?
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Lisa
May 4th, 2009
2:27 pm
There are a lot of people eating out prehaps not where you live “who cares”. In my area i go to, different resturants, there’s
still a wait time of 15 to 30 mins depending on where you go. I don’t care how small the table is as long as i can enjoy my meal.
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jimbob
May 4th, 2009
2:27 pm
I remember the old Arby’s near northlake, before it remodeled in the late 1980s, only had a handful of seats with a few really small tables. I’d imagine that all of the old-style Arby’s, with the inverted curved roof, were configured similarly.
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Tia
May 4th, 2009
2:34 pm
No restaurant tables aren’t too small.. diners are too fat. There are more obese people today than ever. I feel so sorry for fat people when I see them at a restaurant, people stare and make fun of them. It must be hard to be overweight in society.
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lovelyliz
May 4th, 2009
2:42 pm
It’s a marketing gimmick. The smaller the table the larger the meal appears to be and the more people per square foot that can be seated and served. It also keeps customer from getting too comfartable so as to get them out the door quicker. Turnover people! Turnover!
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rpm
May 4th, 2009
2:44 pm
??? “I’d but FAB on that list” apparently the screen was too small to proof read
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prootwadl
May 4th, 2009
2:46 pm
Tia, if the dishes don’t fit on the table, the issue isn’t the diners. It’s the table.
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Cindy Lu
May 4th, 2009
2:55 pm
If the restaurants would not clutter the table with so much stuff; i.e. dessert menus; drink menus; sales flyers, etc. then there might be enough room. I find that I have to place these items on the ledge or floor just so we have ample space to enjoy our meals.
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BrokeAsAJoke
May 4th, 2009
2:56 pm
I eat like once a month now. I agree with bbb, I am glad I can afford to eat. When my mom says why dont you come over for dinner tonight, I am like I will be there. I don’t care if it is something I dislike, I will be there eating it and enjoying it. I don’t have the money to go out and eat. Thankfully, I don’t have any children.
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Jefferson
May 4th, 2009
2:58 pm
Too close together. I don’t want to hear other chit or chat.
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deegee
May 4th, 2009
3:01 pm
LOL! I went to Dairy Queen last night and watched an obese slob prop his belly up on the table after squeezing his corpus maximus between the seat and the table. It was disgusting. He ordered a hamburger, french fries, large coke and a chili dog on the side. Thank goodness for large tables at Dairy Queen or else he might not have had room for his oversized gut and all the food he ordered.
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Mugglemikki
May 4th, 2009
3:01 pm
No, our azzes are just to big!
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abc
May 4th, 2009
3:02 pm
If I can’t get a table I like, I leave. Maybe it’s too small, maybe it’s poor placement. It happens. It’s not that big a deal; chances are I won’t return, but it’s not as if the restaurants need to be concerned about that — people tend to have very low expectations of them.
We eat out a lot. Including lunch, I probably eat out 10 times per week. The food’s better at home, but we like being able to relax and not have to clean up. There aren’t that many restaurants worth returning to, but among the ones we like are the pizza joint, this 1 Chinese place (man, the chinese joints get the worst health scores!), soup & salad, a breakfast place is hard to find. Nothing fancy, except on special occasions.
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Ted Striker
May 4th, 2009
3:03 pm
Meridith Ford Goldman — just balance the plates on your thighs. That ought to be good for a buffet or two.
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Bigger is Better
May 4th, 2009
3:03 pm
not only are tables getting smaller , but both are too. Check out any Waffle House
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abc
May 4th, 2009
3:05 pm
Ha! We eat out a lot, but it’s a rule to never enter a burger joint, nor the Awful House, or any of the disgusting food specialties. Yuck. I’d rather cook and clean up.
When my kids were small I get them Happy Meals and throw away the ‘food’. All they wanted was the toy, anyway.
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deegee
May 4th, 2009
3:08 pm
Seriously though, how many people order 4 appetizers and entrees? The tables are smaller so that they can push them together for large parties or leave them solo for parties of one or 2. It’s about turnover. Your server should be able to stage your order so that it doesn’t pile up on the table. Of course, this is the U.S. where dining out is a more like a sprint than a marathon.
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YES
May 4th, 2009
3:19 pm
Of course they are. They are done that way so the owners can cram more people
into one space. If you get a meal/plate of any size you will find that it is hard
to manage cutting your meat. But who really cares besides me?
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mattie
May 4th, 2009
3:23 pm
I will put up with smaller tables if I have to, but I won’t return to a restaurant where the tables are very close together. When I’m out to dinner with my spouse or friends, I am not interested in sharing anyone’s conversation.
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John
May 4th, 2009
3:26 pm
Heck, if you think the tables are small in Atlanta, come across the pond for a visit. The wife and I are living abroad for a year while I study at a University in England. The tables when we eat out are tiny! Worse, though, is the English tendency to sit you right next to an occupied table — even when you’re the only two occupied tables in the place!
I, for one, welcome the large Atlanta tables when I return.
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Noelle
May 4th, 2009
3:28 pm
Yes, most restaurant tables are too small and too close together, and it has nothing to do with the size of the diners. It’s about not having enough room on the tabletop for your plates and drinks, especially considering the huge portion sizes and oversized plates used at many restaurants.
Tables are tiny because restaurants are trying to cram in as many tables as possible. More tables means more diners, which means more money. Plus, with the spaces so cramped, no one wants to hang around, and fast turnaround means the restaurant can serve more diners and make even MORE money.
We get around all that by trying to get a booth whenever possible. The tabletops are usually bigger, and there’s no one crammed up right next to you. Plus, the seats are usually cushioned, so they’re more comfortable to start with.
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Joel
May 4th, 2009
3:32 pm
No, we are just too big…
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mDm
May 4th, 2009
3:32 pm
The size of the tables shouldn’t matter as long as you have ample seating. Unfortunately, restaurants are trying to pack as many people in their establishments without waiting so patrons won’t go elsewhere. In today’s economic times, those who can afford to dine out will experience less wait time and/or flexible reservations. Additionally, walk-ins with available seating at peak times will be the norm.
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Marlene
May 4th, 2009
3:34 pm
Who cares. Get a life. Just give me a restaurants with no kids!
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Joe
May 4th, 2009
3:36 pm
I agree with the comment on Dante’s. We were sat at a converted Civil War sewing maching table. The table was not even 2 foot in diameter. And of course no way to put your legs under the table. The best part is I got to sit in the main entering area beside the hostess. Thank God! Dante was there to move us to another table.
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Sam
May 4th, 2009
3:41 pm
With all that is going on in the world right now, this is all the AJC has to talk about? No wonder the newspapers are in trouble!
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atlanta native
May 4th, 2009
3:42 pm
A Teesman – Where is there a Cashin’s? I worked there in the late 70’s early 80’s. Has it been that long since you ate out, or am I missing something?
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reservoirDAWG
May 4th, 2009
3:44 pm
It depends on the restaurant.
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Joe
May 4th, 2009
3:48 pm
abc,
You are smart with money. Good for you.
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booger
May 4th, 2009
3:49 pm
I lived in France for a couple of years. Their largest tables are smaller than our smallest tables yet they turn out better meals and service than almost anyone here. One hint as to why. Their plates are not the size of hubcaps.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
3:56 pm
You’re missing something. Say my name.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
3:56 pm
Get it?
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RBSAtlanta
May 4th, 2009
3:58 pm
My word there’s just a bit of vitriol in this blog (”who cares” this and “get a life” that)! I know it may shock most of you who rampantly complain, but some of us are fortunate enough to not be burdened with multiple kids, mortgages, cars and/or ex-spouses and can still afford a meal out.
Now – with that said – although I LOOOVE 4th and Swift, some of the tables are a bit small in surface area. I don’t really mind them being close together because I’m generally the one with the loudest mouth and have NO problem being heard over multiple conversations.
And I TOTALLY agree with the poster that complained about too much accoutrement on the tables. That’s generally only in chain restos BUT, even when in a chain I don’t want to have to balance my meal over a placard or two.
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Moerice
May 4th, 2009
4:00 pm
Why do so many people get upset at an article like this? a) it is the dining out section, so it is appropriate. It is not the front page, for crying out loud. b) If it is such a waste of time or space, why comment on it? Doesn’t that mean you actually read the piece, which is the whole point? and c) If you never eat outm for whatever reason, why even ready the article? Who is the real loser?
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Mike
May 4th, 2009
4:05 pm
The tables were horribly close together at Pano’s and Paul’s. After one dinner there, the lady at the next table said to us, “it was so nice joining you for dinner.”
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Grumpy Young Man
May 4th, 2009
4:07 pm
I like restaurants with small tables – there’s no room for kids! It forces people to leave their kids at home and not subject us to their screeching and screaming, spitting, and diaper smells.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
4:08 pm
Fast food places, D’Lites and Mighty Casey have decent size tables. ‘Round the Corner has some big ones, too.
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Kat
May 4th, 2009
4:10 pm
Where is there a Cashin’s Restaurant in Atlanta anymore? I loved Cashin’s at Cumberland.
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Noelle
May 4th, 2009
4:12 pm
Grumpy, if only that were true. I’ve been crammed up next to tiny tables with screamy/squirmy small children more than once (and that doesn’t even count the people who are allowed to block the walkway by putting a highchair at the end of a booth). I don’t blame the kids, though; it’s the parents who cause the problems by not parenting.
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Grumpy Young Man
May 4th, 2009
4:14 pm
Amen.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
4:16 pm
People, I’m sorry my humor is too subtle for you. My character A. Teesman = 80s man, a fellow seemingly trapped in 1980s Atlanta injecting himself into a conversation about modern day Atlanta. Get it?
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reservoirDAWG
May 4th, 2009
4:19 pm
D’Lites. That place was ahead of it’s time.
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Steve
May 4th, 2009
4:20 pm
Tables aren’t getting smaller, but southern Americans continue to get fatter. It’s sad, really.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
4:22 pm
Indeed. The D’Lites I went to was in that shopping center just across from U.S. Bar y Grill along Roswell Road in Sandy Springs.
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reservoirDAWG
May 4th, 2009
4:24 pm
We would go to one on Jimmy Carter. It’s funny you mentioned those two spots as they were the only places to eat in Gwinnett County when my family moved there.
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A. Teesman
May 4th, 2009
4:26 pm
It’s all different now. My aunt used to live on Hamilton Mill Road and that was out in the boonies. Seems like the ‘burbs go on forever now.
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Get It Right
May 4th, 2009
5:01 pm
The Cheescake Factory has very small tables. The only good thing about that is that we were limited in the amount of lousy food we could order.
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Tea
May 4th, 2009
5:02 pm
I can live with the small size but when the person next to my two-top is closer than the person across the table I came to be with – well, I draw the line there. Unfortunately, my wife and I are missing out on a lot of good Midtown restaurants because they have this ridiculously cramped line of two-tops against one or two interior walls.
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Rose
May 4th, 2009
5:09 pm
Obviously, the “mford” was not talking about a fast food restaurant or a restaurant that seats children at high chairs. Notice the reference to the Ritz Carlton which set the tone for the responses. This is a commentary on fine dining.
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Rose
May 4th, 2009
5:14 pm
I forgot to answer the question! I think the tables at Two Urban Licks are pretty small and crammed together.
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booger
May 5th, 2009
10:11 am
Atlanta and Athens just don’t have the talent that you find in Charleston. There are more first rate restaurants in a few square blocks in Charleston than in all of N. Georgia.
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mDm
May 5th, 2009
10:13 am
New York and Chicago have the best restaurants. Sorry.
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Drew
May 5th, 2009
10:26 am
Sounds like some people are a little homesick… and those people are from Charleston and New York & Chicago.
There are great restaurants everywhere, not just NY and not just Charleston. Oh and if you’re talking about “first rate” restaurants it’s funny booger, because… what? What was that I heard? Oh right…
The Dining Room at the Ritz-Carlton in Buckhead (read: Atlanta) is one of “only three restaurants in the United States have received the Mobil Five-Star award for more than 10 years.
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Linda
May 5th, 2009
10:35 am
Ever been to SF? Talk about restaurants….
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ChefChuck
May 5th, 2009
10:37 am
Don’t forget San Francisco.
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bl
May 5th, 2009
11:48 am
Are Jeanne Besser’s and John Kessler’s blogs gone for good? I’m disappointed that they haven’t been active in some time.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 5th, 2009
1:53 pm
Booger: Sorry dude, but Atlanta has a handful world-class restaurants.
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stinger
May 5th, 2009
2:17 pm
Rose, you forgot to answer the question because you had to take the time to correct people. Just answer the question and shut up.
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mDm
May 5th, 2009
3:02 pm
You’re right about San Francisco. My bad!
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weird
May 5th, 2009
3:54 pm
I am totally a fabbo food critic. I’m cool because even though I’m almost 50, I call people dude. I get stupid drunk and hang all over all the chefs in town. They let me too because the want a good review. People love me and yet fear me at the same time. Bow down to me.
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Chef Drew
May 5th, 2009
9:34 pm
We did have one Atlanta winner. She is Atlanta native and resident, Shirley O. Corriher. She won for her book, Bakewise.
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banquet manager
May 5th, 2009
10:22 pm
I agree with the first guy that left a comment – who cares? Just visit my blog…
So You Want To Be a Banquet Manager? You think being a banquet manager is glamorous? You try dealing with cranky chefs and bitchy waiters all day – and that’s without the nasty customers. Visit my blog and see what it’s REALLY like in this crazy profession.
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banquet manager
May 5th, 2009
10:23 pm
If they make the donuts smaller, people will just eat twice as many. Come on…what are they thinking?
So You Want To Be a Banquet Manager? You think being a banquet manager is glamorous? You try dealing with cranky chefs and bitchy waiters all day – and that’s without the nasty customers. Visit my blog and see what it’s REALLY like in this crazy profession.
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reservoirDAWG
May 6th, 2009
11:23 am
Why don’t you quit and find a new profession?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 6th, 2009
1:08 pm
Hey Ted Striker: the only reason I didn’t spam the heck out your tacky comment is because it actually made me laugh out loud.
Thanks for the thoughts, all. Sure, not everyone orders as much food as I do, but I still think we need a little more room on most tables.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 6th, 2009
1:29 pm
Thanks Drew! Love me some Shirley!!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 6th, 2009
1:43 pm
Thanks Drew — again! And weird: save it.
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Jason Greene
May 7th, 2009
11:33 am
Booger, you are right about Charleston. Poor Savannah should be in the same league as Charleston, but is a total disgrace.
Atlanta has many great restaurants, but should have more for a city this size.
I can’t get past the great Deli’s in NYC. I remember Katz’s and Leb’s here in Atlanta. We need a great NY Deli here in the ATL!
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georgia peach
May 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
I wouldn’t say I judge or if I do, I don’t mean to. I’ve looked and thought, he must be a vegan or they must be having a special dinner and then I must admit, I’ve peeked at a few carts and thought “oh those foods are so unhealthy for those kids”
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catlady
May 7th, 2009
5:22 pm
I admit I do it, too. Then I look proudly at my “sensible” basket.
What can really give you the chills is seeing what kids bring in their lunchboxes. For many, it is all JUNK or highly processed, sugar-laden, high fat, salt, or additives. One little girl I pass by every day has YET to have any significant source of protein (like a sandwich or some cheese). Then her mom wonders why she is spaced out in Math class an hour later!
Lots of folks I know get angry when they see someone’s basket who then pays with food stamps (old days) or welfare EBT. Or the large families who have WIC vouchers.
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Yep, I do
May 7th, 2009
5:30 pm
Yes. Especially if there are lots of junk and processed foods with absence of fresh fruit and vegetables. Add chubby kids to the mix and I can’t help but wonder if the parent just doesn’t know any better, and that maybe they should. I try not to do be nosy, and I don’t think anyone would accuse me of being a snob. I would NEVER say anything to or about anyone, stranger or acquaintance.
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Lisa
May 7th, 2009
6:29 pm
Yes, I am totally judgmental. But not only that, you can tell a lot about a person’s life by their groceries. Lady with Lean Cuisine’s, Diet Coke and cat food probably lives alone…..
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Diet Soda Causes Weight Gain
May 7th, 2009
6:58 pm
The more diet soda, the heavier the buyer, in my experience. Weight gain is #3 on the list of Nutrisweet side effects. Water is the only answer.
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georgia peach
May 7th, 2009
7:38 pm
Catlady, I never thought about it until you mentioned that some people get angry when they see people paying with EBT cards or WIC vouchers. I tend to get an attitude, not because the persons have WIC or that they have EBT cards. When I see 4-6 litttle extremely chubby stairsteps with thier parents and 2 grocery carts and not a vegetable or fruit to be found I get an attitude. I see processed meats, surgary cereal, soda’s, kool aide, cookies, chips, ribs and wings….I don’t even spot an onion or rib of celery. This is sooooo sad. Yes, I then chalk up the size of the children and the parents because of the contents of thier grocery carts………so I guess, in my own way I judge more than I realize…..would I ever comment to anyone about the contents of thier cart……OH NO!!!!!!!!
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Michelle
May 9th, 2009
9:48 am
Seriously People??? Nothing better in this world to complain about??
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reservoirDAWG
May 12th, 2009
2:18 pm
It was the fried apple pie from McDonalds. Now it’s Popeye’s fried chicken.
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RBSAtlanta
May 12th, 2009
2:41 pm
@reservoirDAWG – once McD’s stopped frying them, there was no point to them.
My favorite? Tater tots – there are VERY FEW fast food places where I can get tater tots but I oh so crave them every now and again.
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reservoirDAWG
May 12th, 2009
3:11 pm
RBS, you can still get the fried ones at Krystal. I wish I could help you with the tots.
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Caleb Choe
May 12th, 2009
3:44 pm
Sonic has tater tots.
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Katharine
May 12th, 2009
5:35 pm
I never pay any attention to what other people have in their carts. Even if I did, it’s none of my business.
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Uncle Tom
May 13th, 2009
1:06 am
McDonald’s apple pie is good for a quick fix if you can’t find a Church’s chicken nearby. Otherwise, the fried apple pie at Church’s is very tasty…especially w/ the icing!
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Karen
May 13th, 2009
1:55 am
Church’s jalapeno poppers. Spicier peppers then the ones from Arbys.
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carie
May 13th, 2009
2:09 am
Martins’… theyhave the best of everything – beats out mcd’s, bk, tb, kfc, winners, etc.. all except popeyes… i love thier chicken
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Jason Greene
May 13th, 2009
12:45 pm
Without a doubt it’s Spicy Fried Chicken @ Popeyes. And the fried greasy pies at the Varsity. Did I mention my Mom’s Fried Okra, Fried Green Tomato’s, and especiallyi for me, a fried Bannana and Peanut Butter Sandwich!
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RBSAtlanta
May 14th, 2009
10:39 am
A moonwalk with beer and bbq in the belly is probably NOT a good idea … :0)
I love my bbq but an entire day of it is just too much for me now. The last “fest” I attended was the Big Pig Jig down in Vienna, GA (loved every minute of it) but after a day of bbq and fried Oreo cookies, I was done. Gluttony isn’t pretty on a 38 year old.
I do hope they raise some money for the Boys and Girls Clubs, though – that’s a great thing.
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Brill
May 14th, 2009
2:45 pm
My wife is from New England. If you get invited to a “barbecue” up there, expect only hamburgers and hot dogs. Trust me on this one.
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Derek
May 14th, 2009
3:39 pm
Hey Brill… I’m a transplant from CT and have been smoking ribs, etc for about 25 years buddy. Just because your wife was apparently running with the wrong crowd isn’t an indicator of what “barbecue” is in New England. Enough of your slanderous speak.. I trust you not.
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neal kelley
May 14th, 2009
3:50 pm
all this talk of food is making me hungry!!!!!
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Jim Barco
May 14th, 2009
3:58 pm
Please add a week to your travels good folk and come to Gainesville, GA, May 30th for the Brenau Barbecue and Banjos event. Sanctioned by the Memphis Barbecue Network and the Southeast Bluegrass Association, this event brings together the great food and sounds of summer. Located on the campus of Brenau University, the event runs 10 am to 6 pm. Admission is $5 per person and there will be activities for kids and vendors supplying goods for summer. Twenty pro cook teams returning from Memphis in May are expected as are twenty “Backyard Braggart” teams. No outside food or drink is permitted. Money raised benefits the local student scholarship fund.
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Texas Pete
May 14th, 2009
4:43 pm
I think your BBQ here is secretly rat meat. The only good BBQ comes from Texas.
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Kay B
May 14th, 2009
5:09 pm
Sam & Dave’s whole BBQ1 & BBQ2 thing confused the heck out of me when I was trying to figure out where they were through the web. Good BBQ though!!
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Mort Merkel
May 14th, 2009
5:14 pm
Steve Bornhoft, a great writer on Florida’s Gulf Coast once, wrote about some carnival rides near the county pier at Panama City Beach as, “offering enough centrifugal thrill to separate a spring breaker from his beer load.” The moonwalk may do that at the above event.
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Mort Merkel
May 14th, 2009
5:15 pm
poorly placed commas above, but you get the drift, I hope.
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Mac
May 14th, 2009
5:17 pm
Texas has got some good ‘cue, no doubt. But it ain’t the only good ‘un. Best brisket, probably, but definitely not the only great barbecue.
And, many people don’t know this, but Jacksonville, Fla. is quite the hotbed for good ‘cue.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 15th, 2009
11:01 am
Texas Pete: Them’s fightin’ words!
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Freedog
May 15th, 2009
6:28 pm
Six Feet Under on 11th
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mG2
May 15th, 2009
6:35 pm
Montaluce Winery in Dahlonega……to sit outside overlooking the vineyards and enjoy fine wine with an equally fine meal.
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Manny
May 15th, 2009
7:14 pm
“THE CHOCOLATE BAR” in downtown Decatur on West Ponce de Leon still ranks as one of the best places in Metro Atlanta for cocktails! Several well-known celebrities choose to frequent this establishment because of its quaint appearance and location which is comfortably nestled in the middle of downtown Decatur next door to Ted’s Montana Grill. While their drinks are a bit high, they are one-of-a-kind specialty drinks and mix well with the handmade chocolates served on site. Two thumbs up!!!
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IC Atlanta
May 15th, 2009
7:15 pm
Peachtree Plaza Sundial – great view and you can pretend to be a tourist for the evening
Six Feet Under Westside
Park Tavern
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Ann
May 15th, 2009
7:16 pm
Elevation Chop House & Skybar at McCollum Field in Marietta. Seeing planes flying in and out is so cool and the food is awesome! Great bar and the Nitrogen Margarita’s rock!
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Chris
May 15th, 2009
7:45 pm
Atlanta and Athens definitely do not have the talent found elsewhere, great food in Atlanta is only ok by other big cities standards.
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Chuck
May 15th, 2009
8:38 pm
The Troll Tavern in Helen. There are plenty of places to chill, have a drink, and sit by the river in Helen. The Troll Tavern seems to be a little more fun loving than most others.
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david
May 15th, 2009
9:19 pm
Sushi Bar at Pink Pony South. Incredible panaromic view.
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Jack Preston
May 16th, 2009
5:04 pm
Garrison’s Bar in Duluth, atop the restaurant. Great place for martini’s and watching rush hour go by.
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Southerner
May 16th, 2009
6:32 pm
The grounds and gardens of my plantation.
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Sarah
May 16th, 2009
7:46 pm
Romance novel sales are up as well.I most likely would indulge in chocolate and not beer while reading a romance. Even better read a romance about chocolate and save the calories.
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ANNA
May 17th, 2009
5:02 pm
AS MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID….MYOB!!
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Nan
May 18th, 2009
5:22 pm
Actually, it’s not that there is “nothing better in this world to complain about??” It’s that the subject of this blog is specifically, do you do this too? There are probably other blogs and forums where we could complain about more important things. Also, there is nothing wrong with people-watching. Sometimes there is even something to be learned.
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Charles H
May 18th, 2009
6:59 pm
Great. just what Atlanta needs. Another restaurant focusing on style over substance.
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Sarah B.
May 19th, 2009
8:34 am
I’ll give this place a shot….but I don’t expect it to match up to the already excellent Steel sushi restaurant further south on 8th and Peach. I’m a regular. The deco is classy, and the menu is delish.
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VoiceOf Reason
May 19th, 2009
11:49 am
Love, love, LOVE that bar in the CNN center. The one right outside the restaurant on the second floor. It over looks the park. Great drinks and appetizers too. Just love it.
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VoiceOf Reason
May 19th, 2009
11:50 am
LOL @ David. Sushi at a strip club? Hmmm…. I’ll pass.
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Jon
May 19th, 2009
12:06 pm
window view at Canoe in Vinings. Not a skyline but feels like a woodland setting and your still in city limits.
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DIPPER
May 19th, 2009
12:09 pm
Rooftop of Six Feet Under on 11th street…
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ATL4real
May 19th, 2009
12:24 pm
I can’t afford to drink at anyplace that has more than two floors, so I will have to go with Park Tavern (seated outside, of course)
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Cabbagehead
May 19th, 2009
12:25 pm
The deck atop Six Feet Under, Memorial Dr. location. Fantastic view of Oakland Cemetery, Fulton Cotton Mill and the downtown skyline.
Great – now I’m craving fried oysters and a Yuengling…
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Marsha Bond
May 19th, 2009
12:30 pm
Congratulations LUDA!
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braveschop
May 19th, 2009
12:30 pm
The Braves Chop House overlooking center field.
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LP21
May 19th, 2009
12:38 pm
the link to the website you posted is incorrect
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NNC
May 19th, 2009
12:40 pm
Sometimes I do like but it’s for ideas.
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Mike Vick
May 19th, 2009
12:43 pm
I don’t drink.
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ATL4real
May 19th, 2009
12:43 pm
Jon, I’m surpised your not claiming that the best place is at your house. You are the same Jon with the Big Green Egg, right?
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Jennifer
May 19th, 2009
12:43 pm
The bar atop the Glenn Hotel is fantastic – comfy white couches and a lovely view of Centennial Park and beyond. Both Six Feet Unders have a great view too, as well as the outside area of JCT Kitchen’s bar.
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LP21
May 19th, 2009
12:45 pm
http://www.straitsrestaurants.com/index.php?section=29
the website is incorrect on their menu too
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V13
May 19th, 2009
12:47 pm
Fado Irish Pub in Buckhead has a really nice rooftop complete with a fireplace!
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NNC
May 19th, 2009
12:51 pm
*look
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TopOfTheWorld
May 19th, 2009
1:14 pm
There is a vacant lot in South Atlanta on Climax St. with the city’s BEST view. It is BYOB, but well worth the price!!!
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Grace DeVita
May 19th, 2009
1:15 pm
Right now, anyplace with a view would be great for me! I miss ATL!
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Hooty Hoo
May 19th, 2009
1:25 pm
Definitely the JCT bar area. Can’t beat the garlic parm. fries either!!
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Wishiwasrich
May 19th, 2009
1:27 pm
CROSS CREEK CAFE /just off of Moores Mill Rd. When the weather is pleasant you can’t beat the view from the elevated deck of the large, duck filled pond, surrounded by the vibrant green golf course.
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blah blah
May 19th, 2009
1:28 pm
whatever
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kt
May 19th, 2009
1:41 pm
I like the view at Shout on the upstairs patio, its lovely.
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Baxter
May 19th, 2009
1:49 pm
been there twice and both times it was half empty. food was ok but the second time I went it was bad and we complained.
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Christopher
May 19th, 2009
1:51 pm
I know everyone feels like they’ve been there and done that already, but the Sun Dial is still my favorite place for drink and a view.
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CYA
May 19th, 2009
2:04 pm
My review mirror heading up 85 after work.
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CYA
May 19th, 2009
2:05 pm
My rear view mirror heading up 85 after work.
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levelhead
May 19th, 2009
2:18 pm
Can anyone tell me what has Shirley done to receive an award?
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asfd
May 19th, 2009
2:51 pm
755. Nuff said.
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Asfd
May 19th, 2009
2:59 pm
ASDF- Where is “Nuff” what does that mean? I have not heard of it.
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luvya
May 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
Olives Waterside off Powers Ferry
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Ben
May 19th, 2009
3:08 pm
I’ll 2nd the Sundial. It’s simply unbeatable. Yeah it’s WAY overpriced but to be able to sit in one place, have a couple drinks and have a rotating view of the entire city all the way to the horizon is still amazing. It’s a shame more of the skyscrapers here don’t have rooftop bars/restaurants.
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Ben
May 19th, 2009
3:09 pm
Whoops. Forgot another. Capitol City Grille in Buckhead. But only if you are sitting at a window table on the South side. You can see all the way to downtown.
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Dreamboat
May 19th, 2009
3:32 pm
Olive’s is closed
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kt
May 19th, 2009
3:32 pm
I also forgot about the rooftop at Verve, haven’t been there in months & I heard it closed.
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JJ
May 19th, 2009
3:46 pm
My deck. Fabulous cocktails, wonderful crowd, Happy hours!!! And a georgeous view over my Park-like backyard…..
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reservoirDAWG
May 19th, 2009
3:56 pm
Capital Grille.
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demand
May 19th, 2009
4:13 pm
Two Urban Licks …. great view on a nice day, when the big doors are open!!!
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Dewayne Vincent
May 19th, 2009
4:16 pm
Taqueria del sol on the westside of town. Hands down the best margaritas in town!!! I go every Wednesday religiously. GOT TO TRY IT OUT!
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andy
May 19th, 2009
4:39 pm
Turner Field shows it best; anything in the Centennial Park area; and though you can only have a coke and a reason (to be there), an interesting and picturesque view is from an upper floor at Grady Hospital looking north (great contrast with rising buildings on the left and open city to the right adn distant northside straight ahead).
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Remember
May 19th, 2009
4:46 pm
The Beer Mug looking over Peachtree Street and I-85. So it’s just a fond memory but I bet I am not the only one!!!!
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Bob
May 19th, 2009
4:57 pm
JCT Bar. Great view of Buckhead, Midtown and Downtown from West Midtown. Great oysters and live music as well.
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FM Fats
May 19th, 2009
5:09 pm
I second the Two Urban Licks nomination. Wonderful place for an infusion, pulled pork, and then a lollipop after dinner. Midtown looks like Oz from the patio.
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Monet
May 19th, 2009
10:36 pm
Everyone – get super excited about this! I’m from Arizona…one word…Amazing. The RA in Tucson and in Scottsdale were always the best place on Sunday for Industry Nights, with reverse happy hour and the one in Tucson always had a DJ. Can’t wait for this one in Midtown to open!!!
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mike
May 20th, 2009
2:59 pm
so i guess Ludacris was not lying on that song “On Top of The World”..”put one of my partners right through culinary art school, now he my personal chef so that bread he get it”
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jimmy
May 20th, 2009
3:21 pm
Thanks for the news – do you know if they will be open for lunch (in general, not that Thursday)?
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Chris
May 20th, 2009
4:10 pm
What a thug.
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jellyton D
May 20th, 2009
4:23 pm
oh, i thought it was, like, black and straight, and no fags or white people for that matter, allowed, lest you want the gold-plated glock to the temple is you bullet proof honkie, throw da body in da dumpster……..treatment. They glare at you when you walk by if you are gay, sho nuff.
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kt
May 20th, 2009
4:38 pm
jellyton D – WOW
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Santana
May 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
I’ve dined there, the food is good, the service is just ok. People go just to see who’s there. I think the front of the house staff could be a bit more friendlier. They are there observing as well of what celebrity or athlete walks in the door. It’s another Justin’s restaurant.
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Patrice
May 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
It’s a fabulous restaurant – the food is great and the service is good too. Its a pretty place, and just nice if you want to sit at the bar and have a drink….tried a drink called “red head in the bed” and it made me want to be one….lol
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Tracey
May 20th, 2009
5:03 pm
I went one night here recently and Luda was there – he’s cool and he seemed genuine when he said “thanks for coming” – I will go back because of that. Of and the food is good too!
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Patrice
May 20th, 2009
5:05 pm
yay Luda! Congrats dude! Forget the haters man, keep doing YOU – the food is great and its a nice place.
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Drew
May 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Jimmy – according to the restaurant’s web page “The restaurant will be open for lunch and dinner, Monday through Saturday.”
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=star+provisions+abattoir
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Lance
May 21st, 2009
12:25 am
Looking forward to their veggies and salad.
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Stuck in texas
May 21st, 2009
2:17 am
Brisket and links is not bbq, that’s just called meat. There aren’t any good steakhouses here either! I could sure go for some Two Brothers bbq right now, but no I’m 800 miles away!!!
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Schlonghorn
May 21st, 2009
5:20 am
The days of the pricy “chop house” are over. Anyone willing to pay $40 for a steak AND 8 dollars for a side, needs to have their head cheese examined.
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Bitter EX democrackkk
May 21st, 2009
6:48 am
LMAO! aint that the truth!
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D
May 21st, 2009
6:56 am
The menu items are disgusting.I hope they have a large enough fan base to carry this one, their other places are delightful.
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KA
May 21st, 2009
7:51 am
Abattoir? Are you kidding? Is this a Hannibal Lecter chain? I certainly don’t want to be reminded of the horrifying slaughter of the meat on my plate. Ghoulish, not delicious.
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Drew
May 21st, 2009
11:49 am
I’ll get on my soapbox here for a moment:
Some of the attitudes here are questionable at best. I think we all tend to forget where our food comes from and the fact that there is more to an animal aside from boneless skinless chicken breasts, pork chops, or ground beef. While you may not find amusement in the name or what will be served at this restaurant, to say that “the menu items are disgusting” is frankly, ignorant and naive. I mean that in the nicest way possible, of course.
For all of you who don’t think the food here will be appetizing, you certainly have your right to an opinion, but don’t fault the highly respected and skilled chefs/owners for thinking outside the box. I for one am happy that these chefs are adventurous enough to open a restaurant like this. It brings variety to Atlanta. And one last cliche comment; don’t knock it ’till you try it.
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mford
May 21st, 2009
1:41 pm
Hear hear, Drew. I’m told by chef owner Ann Quatrano that the price point will be much lower at Abattoir as well, making it a clear competitor for places like Holeman & Finch, which is wildly popular.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 21st, 2009
1:46 pm
And Jimmy: the info I have is that lunch hours are still to come. So give them a call before you go.
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Pizzle Pate
May 21st, 2009
3:29 pm
If they think they will compete with H & F, they better have a killer cocktails program and top notch bartenders.
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FoodieBuddha
May 22nd, 2009
2:28 am
@MFG & @Jimmy: Had dinner there tonight … err … last night …. according to the gang at the restaurant, they are holding off on lunch for the near future …
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Janine
May 22nd, 2009
10:02 am
God hate Moon Pies. When I tried them for the first time when I was little, I threw up after 3 bites. Even now, just looking at them makes me nauseated. OOO this picture is not helping. Bye y’all…
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Becky
May 22nd, 2009
10:25 am
Love them..Just had one last week..A small taste of heaven..I can’t wait to try the Over The Moon Banana Pudding..
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Friday
May 22nd, 2009
10:52 am
Moonpies are YUCK!
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Friday
May 22nd, 2009
10:53 am
Moonpies are YUCK! Now can anyone tell me where to find Twinkies anymore?
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Janine
May 22nd, 2009
11:39 am
friday, they aren’t in stores anymore?
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Becky
May 22nd, 2009
11:41 am
Friday, I’m just the opposite..I think Twinkies are YUCK..
Hope everyone has a great weekend..
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Harriet
May 22nd, 2009
11:43 am
Like the yellow/banana moon pies, not so much for twinkies but do you remember Stage Planks? Ummm…memories.
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anne
May 22nd, 2009
11:47 am
Friday – I bought Twinkies last week at Kroger.
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nita
May 22nd, 2009
12:15 pm
Moon pies are the best. I love the vanilla and orange. Moon pies remind me of my granddaddy. He would always bring back moon pies after he had fished for hours on end. The grand kids that didn’t go fishing would meet him as he got out of the car looking for the moon pies. Those were the good ole days. I don’t know which we enjoyed more, fresh fish, which we had several times a week or the moon pies. He fished 3 or 4 times a week so we ate moon pies often.
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nita
May 22nd, 2009
12:16 pm
Harriet, we called stage planks, go-go cookies if they were the ginger bread cookies with pink icing
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arlene
May 22nd, 2009
12:16 pm
The best of all are Tastykake products. They are made in Philadelphia and have a large selection of goodies, although all varieties are not down here Try their chocolate cupcakes and butterscotch krimpets. Publix carries them.
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Sue
May 22nd, 2009
12:33 pm
I’m not a huge fan of Moon Pies but my husband is! He likes to put them in the microwave until the marshmallow part swells up real big and gooey and then eats it with a fork.
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Juanita
May 22nd, 2009
12:42 pm
Arlene –
Please move your obese, double-wide backside back to Philly and eat all the TastyCakes you like, Heifer.
We Southern MOON PIE lovers don’t need “Your Kind” down here.
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arlene
May 22nd, 2009
1:08 pm
Juanita…..your butt is probably wider than mine from all of the grease in your guts! You are an ugly, ignorant HEIFER. Get a life…and try to find some manners. Your reply was totally uncalled for.
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arlene
May 22nd, 2009
1:10 pm
…and also, Juanita: you sound like traier park trash!
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arlene
May 22nd, 2009
1:12 pm
…And also, Juanita: you sound like a school- dropout trailer park trash idiot!
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Janine
May 22nd, 2009
1:30 pm
Jeez Juanita that was stupid. You don’t insult us Georgians; we have spirit and pride that you Yankees can only dream about! Woot!
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arlene
May 22nd, 2009
2:27 pm
That’s okay…the war is over….and WE WON!!!
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RBSAtlanta
May 22nd, 2009
3:35 pm
I think I love Drew (05-21-09, 11:49am) … or at least, Drew’s ‘tude regarding food. I’m currently away from the city on holiday but as soon as I’m back, I’m Abattoir bound!
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RBSAtlanta
May 22nd, 2009
3:38 pm
My word, ladies … it’s a d*mn Moon Pie! They’re tasty and all (although I’ll bet most of us have a more sentimental attachment to them than gustatory) but they’re not worth the name calling and anger!
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Janine
May 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm
Yay! so shove it, juanita
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jim
May 22nd, 2009
7:43 pm
God Meredith, your column has become so lame. Please AJC, get rid of this woman and give Kessler her space.
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Chris
May 23rd, 2009
8:51 am
I ate there Thursday and the menu is well thought out alllowing the more adventerous to explore while having numerous well executed dishes more typical for the southeast. With only 2 dishes over $20 it is timely in today’s climate.
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AvidBoater
May 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
On my boat at Lake Lanier listening to the rush hour traffic report…
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Daniel
May 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
my back porch. no breathtaking view, but i don’t have to worry about getting pulled over after a few drinks…
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RZM
May 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
11 Stories at the Glenn Hotel all night and day.
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Pablo Picasso
May 25th, 2009
8:55 pm
Drink to me, drink to my health, you know I can’t drink anymore.
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chiefsquirrel83
May 25th, 2009
9:55 pm
Big Creek Tavern, Skoagies, Dockside Grille!!!! @ Lanier!
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LeeDawg
May 25th, 2009
10:21 pm
The top of the Georgian Terrace Hotel at the pool. You have to take your own drinks but its outstanding.
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Justin
May 25th, 2009
11:18 pm
WETBAR at the new W Atlanta Downtown. Poolside cocktails on the 16th floor and the view is amazing!
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JoyM
May 25th, 2009
11:24 pm
Shout on Peachtree St. has a a great roof top area ton enjoy drinks and great appetizers($10 all you can eat appeitzers on Monday’s, so a great way to end a work day). I miss the vibe @ Verve Lounge, kinda sad it closed….definitely check out the Sundial Restaurant @ The Westin Peachtree Plaza….great views and not so bad prices….not all the expensive, in my book.
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BigTim
May 26th, 2009
8:15 am
Rooftop bar at Tin Lizzys grant Park. Great view of cemetery and downtown. Not to mention the margaritas are quite delicious.
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Knuckle Sandwich
May 26th, 2009
9:04 am
McCrays in Lawrenceville, if you find yourself there. Great view of historic downtown.
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CC
May 26th, 2009
10:10 am
Check out the Hotel Palomar roof deck on W. Peachtree at 6th. It is awesome!
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rob
May 26th, 2009
10:30 am
Any Bank headquarters building (Bof A, Suntrust, you name it)has near top floor eats for the privleged few.
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Ykcir
May 26th, 2009
10:34 am
The new 5 Seasons Brewing in the Brickworks has great rooftop seating with a view of midtown. Also come with the best beer in town. Another good spot is the rooftop bar at FAB.
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Capt. Lefty
May 26th, 2009
11:43 am
Mad Dogs at the top of the Baths in the British Virgin Islands. 3 Finger Painkillers are the best!
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ba
May 26th, 2009
12:36 pm
Cincos in Vickery Village. It is a GREAT SPOT in cumming.
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Kaye
May 27th, 2009
7:55 am
You can find moon pies at Family Doilar. 3 for $1.00
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Tyler P
May 27th, 2009
8:14 am
Who cares.
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Hi there
May 27th, 2009
8:15 am
Can’t wait to see this one. Schlosser changed the way I look at all food after reading his book. It’s time for us to take a step back and really look at what we are putting in our bodies. Cancer rates aren’t this way for no reason, nor is obesity at the levels it’s at just because people “can’t put down their fork.”
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 27th, 2009
1:11 pm
Tyler P: A lot of people care. Maybe you should check the film out — who knows? Maybe it will change your attitude.
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Blake
May 27th, 2009
3:07 pm
GET READY ATLANTA!!!!!! This place rocks!!!! I’ve been to other RA locations and it’s a party not only in your mouth, but all around you!
And the wait staff…… HOT and ANYthing but your typical dull waiter/waitress!!
(check out MONICA)
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DX
May 28th, 2009
6:53 am
Home grown heirloom tomato, chopped Vidalia onion,fresh ground black pepper & Hellman’s mayo on fresh white bread. Mmmmm…….. Le redneck gourmet vegetarian sandwich.
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Lara
May 28th, 2009
8:47 am
I love to dip my Wendy’s french fries into my frosty – yum!
And after a salad bar mishap, I now like bacon bits on my jello.
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JustMe
May 28th, 2009
9:19 am
My husband eats peanut butter, banana and mayo sandwiches.
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Stan
May 28th, 2009
10:42 am
I used to love PB banana and mayo sammiches. Heck when I was a kid I’d eat a mayo sammich, mayo on 2 slices of bread…
Fries in the frosty, yup done that too…
I don’t think much of anything I eat is weird though…maybe it is to other people.
BTW I gotta pass on the Redneck veg sammich, I can’t stand raw tomatos
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Glen
May 28th, 2009
12:59 pm
Peanut Butter and Dill Pickle Sandwiches. Yummo.
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kt
May 28th, 2009
1:20 pm
DX that’s called a “mater” sandwich where I’m from! NC. Also, fries in the Frosty are the bomb, I have to be in the mood for it though. What about bananas & mayo minus the peanut butter?
I’ve eaten syrup sandwiches, toast w/syrup on it. Yum.
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Jami
May 28th, 2009
1:22 pm
What is the point of posting on a topic just to write “who cares?”I read a Vegan book recently and though I do not plan on giving up animal based food products anytime soon,it did reveal information about the FDA and USDA and how lobbyists have their hands in the government’s pockets to determine what is best for our bodies. I have cut back on my beef and pork intake since then and I already feel lighter.
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Atlanta Native
May 28th, 2009
1:37 pm
My father ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches, peanut butter and vidalia onion sandwiches and sometimes all three. I like peanut butter and banana but my parents always added mayo, too.
BBQ sauce mixed with sauerkraut was introduced to me by my ex-mother-in-law and is great. Hot or cold, no less.
I prefer A-1 on my baked potato to butter (leftover from a diet years ago)
And for you Yankees – find an old 8 oz. bottle of Coke and put salted peanuts in it.
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Old School
May 28th, 2009
1:41 pm
Diced or sliced crisp Red Delicious apple splashed with cider vinegar! Love it, love it! Another blissful favorite is ketchup on tossed salad (but my daughters won’t let me have that in public.)
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ihorizon
May 28th, 2009
1:49 pm
For Halloween I’d make popcorn and sprinkle M&M candies in it. Kids loved it!
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Dawg Daddy
May 28th, 2009
1:55 pm
Peanut butter and popcorn sandwiches helped me survive as a starving college student. They’re filling and they taste great. Almost 25 years later, I still eat then once in a while. Yum!
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Food Lover
May 28th, 2009
2:08 pm
Frois Gras milkshake from Flip Burger. OMG. I know exactly how it sounds but dang if it isn’t just a slice of heaven.
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Elvis P
May 28th, 2009
2:08 pm
Toasted peanut butter, banana and bacon sandwich.
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Martha
May 28th, 2009
2:24 pm
my son Timmy when he was in grammer school could not eat but one sandwich and he liked bologna and mayo and p nut butter and jelly so he put the two togeather and made bologna p nut butter and jelly and he still eats it today as a grown man
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GE
May 28th, 2009
2:28 pm
Chocolate ice cream topped with Captain Crunch! The best!
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Razz
May 28th, 2009
2:34 pm
peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches…yum!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
May 28th, 2009
2:44 pm
Peanut butter seems to be the mixer of choice when it comes to sammiches. GE: try Captain Crunch on dulce de leche. Yummers.
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d
May 28th, 2009
3:01 pm
I remember a friend from summer camp….Mashed potato and grape jelly sandwich.
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COCO
May 28th, 2009
3:13 pm
Collard green sandwich=white bread, collard green. Not that I have ever tried it but my aunt says it tastes great! Yuck! Ketchup on scrambled eggs. Yummo!
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Ann
May 28th, 2009
3:21 pm
Survived in college on white bread, Miracle Whip and BBQ potato chip sandwiches………..ummmmm, sounds good right now!
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lsl
May 28th, 2009
3:25 pm
Razz-I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO ATE PB AND LETTUCE SANDWICHES!! I LOVE THEM!! Are you from the midwest? I ate my first one at the deli in a Yonkers store… good old days!
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Don't sleep...
May 28th, 2009
3:26 pm
Cashew Butter smeared on fresh apple slices
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Leah
May 28th, 2009
3:27 pm
Chocolate and banana anything. My usual midnight snack is a banana and chocolate soymilk smoothie made with ice and artificial sweetner. Probably not that weird of a combination–but my favorite combination.
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May 29th, 2009
8:49 am
It’s because there’s too damn many people in the world. We keep ending wars and making cars safer. The natural attrition isn’t happening anymore. Welcome to overpopulation.
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Chris
May 29th, 2009
6:41 pm
Can the guy who wrote this not do math? How are some of these under thirty when the cheapest entree is $15?
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jay
May 29th, 2009
7:02 pm
Very depressing. I don’t see anything wrong with the location either, except the parking was a little ambiguous. Good looking place too. Atlantans need to get out and support their favorite places soon or there won’t be any. Local restaurateurs are already calling this summer the “summer of death”!
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Dot
May 29th, 2009
7:33 pm
It’s very interesting to me that there is a movie about what type foods we intake into our own bodies. Food,Inc. is an eye opene 4 me.Hopefully, I will get the chance 2 see this one.
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Michelle
May 29th, 2009
7:59 pm
I agree with Chris!! Most of these places are hardly bargains. My picks: Top Floor (Midtown), Across the Street (Inman Park), Mali (Virginia Highlands), Holy Taco in East Atlanta (great terrace!) … anyone else?
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Rob
May 29th, 2009
9:03 pm
I think its under $30 per person and you have to drink water
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Noah
May 29th, 2009
9:14 pm
Agree. They are not the good but cheap places I frequent.
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R. H. Gord
May 29th, 2009
9:23 pm
I ate at Chops in Buckhead the other night so I’m not qualified for this discussion…
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Fred
May 29th, 2009
9:46 pm
Come on Chris, Ms Ford is known by every person who owns a dining establishment. Think she EVER pays full price for anything or gets anything other than preferential treatment? Check out the flap over her caterer at her wedding…………
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stew
May 29th, 2009
11:26 pm
Ms. Ford has a thing for Atlanta restaurants. Does she not know that most of the AJC’s readers live outside the Atlanta city limits and eat locally?
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Chigga
May 30th, 2009
12:49 am
I guess you have to share the meal then you date will think your a cheapo!!!!! LOL
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loanman
May 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
El Azteca on Ponce. The Margaritas are so kick ass that you won’t care about a view.
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Toren Anderson
May 30th, 2009
6:43 pm
Hands down, no place is more romantic, beautiful or unique than the rooftop at French American Brasserie a/k/a FAB, it’s perfect. Their drinks are unreal, try the Zeus and the view is unforgettable. We love taking our friends there for before dinner drinks and also just stopping in for a quick bite. Do not miss this Atlanta must-see!
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CANDICE
May 30th, 2009
10:15 pm
BUTTERED POPCORN WITH CHOCOLATE COVERED RAISINS. I GET MY SALTY,CHOCOLATE AND FRUIT ALL IN ONE. GOOD EATING
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Mark
May 31st, 2009
8:09 am
FRiO – COMING SOON!- This will be the best view in Atlanta. It’s so nice, I’m affraid to let the cat out of the bag!
Beautiful scenery
Beautiful people – As in nice people being nice to each other.
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B
May 31st, 2009
9:10 am
The new 5 Seasons Brewery Westside @ Howell Mill and Marrietta Street has an amazing new space called the Sky Bar. Awesome views of the skyline and what I believe to be the best Beer in Atlanta hands down. Plus the food rocks!!
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Yanamom
May 31st, 2009
8:43 pm
Cheep? I don’t think so, try for $20.00 or less for 2 dinners, that is cheep. We want kid friendly places to go with a family of 4 for under $30.00 for dinner. That is what we call a good bargin! But $30.00 for two? I don’t think so.
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concerned
May 31st, 2009
10:28 pm
this is the worst newspaper cover to cover on the planet
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DrinkSlinger
June 1st, 2009
1:53 am
this was a terrible article. I have eaten at 4 of these places and the only way you can eat for under 30 bucks is if you get salads or appetizers and waters, just like any middle priced restaurant. Hopefully, next time, the author can actually put some effort into the title they decided on. Under 30 bucks? Sheesh… Around here, Woodstock, Try The Place or BLD’s… Rosie’s Diner is also a good bet.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 1st, 2009
9:17 am
Well, this seems to have hit a nerve. Actually, I’m not a guy, and I did the math — You can get in and out of these places for $30. No, you can’t eat everything on the menu and drink booze until your skull aches. But you can eat, reasonably for $30. And for the record, Fred — you’re right. A lot of restaurateurs know what I look like. I’ve been doing this for a while, so that’s bound to happen. But I don’t accept things for free. Frankly, most restaurants don’t bother to offer because they know I won’t accept it — they know the rules as well as I. If things get sticky, I cover the cost of an item in my tip. But that’s pretty much the standard for any dining critic, anywhere.
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brian
June 1st, 2009
9:21 am
Ate at Abattoir Saturday night and I enjoyed it thoroughly. The prices are on point, the options are uniques, and the menu is huge. If I have one complaint it would be that the menu is too big. (This could be an initial menu that will be tailored down as soon as they consider what the more popular dishes are.) All in all I loved it and will be back again soon!
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DeAnne
June 1st, 2009
11:49 am
The Rooftop at FAB has an amazing view! You can have dinner up there and the space makes you feel like you are somewhere, other than in Atlanta.
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RBSAtlanta
June 1st, 2009
12:41 pm
KUDOS for the Atlanta boys – always nice to hear about locals hitting the mark with something! But, I’m a Peet’s French Roast (black, please) kinda guy.
The craziest I get with coffee is when I (very infrequently) add one Splenda and a hit of heavy cream.
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Soccerboy
June 1st, 2009
1:15 pm
This is the best coffee beverage in a can, easily and by far. It also beat a lot of coffee shops “fresh” lattés. Can you hear me, Caribou? Can you?
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Haley
June 1st, 2009
1:15 pm
At’a boys!
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MannDubinBlog.com
June 1st, 2009
1:18 pm
“…pretty refreshing.” Somebody really needs to stop hitting the pipe. It’s like God in a can.
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April
June 1st, 2009
2:52 pm
Discovered the Whyantte in a midtown bar back in February. My OTP friends think I am a crazy, because they cannot find them in stores.
I went to the Whynatte warehouse and picked up a few cases so they could enjoy and know that I had not completely lost it. We are totally strung out on them now.
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Kim
June 1st, 2009
2:59 pm
Whynatte and Creme de Menthe…A grown thin mint in liquid form…YUMMO!!!!
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Billy
June 1st, 2009
3:44 pm
Whynatte is the s*it! So sick of Red Bull. It’s about time someone figured out how to unseat Red Bull, and offer up a product that actually tastes good. Well done ATL.
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Sarah
June 1st, 2009
4:10 pm
Yeah fellas!
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Tyler
June 1st, 2009
4:56 pm
WHYNATTE IS THE BEST!
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Lionel Messi
June 1st, 2009
5:08 pm
Great drink. I haven’t met one person who doesn’t like it. Helps me out before a game as well
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Bacchus
June 1st, 2009
5:21 pm
Whynatte is good, but keep an eye out for Liquid Ice!!!
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mford
June 1st, 2009
5:25 pm
Bacchus: Do tell.
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Jesse
June 1st, 2009
6:16 pm
Meridith – I appreciate the positive review, and hope to one day write one of you as well. Actually, I’ll do just that when I post your blog entry on the Whynatte website.
Everyone else – thanks for taking the time to comment, thanks for the continued support, and stay tuned as we take this once inside joke to the next level.
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Fatlanta Teddy
June 1st, 2009
10:56 pm
Bacchus, you are dead on. Liguid Ice is like a party in your mouth. Red Bull who?
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GTPHISH
June 2nd, 2009
12:32 pm
Too bad Dusty’s closed, loved that place
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Brill
June 2nd, 2009
12:36 pm
Wow ! I can’t believe Dusty’s closed, it has been there forever.
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Drew
June 2nd, 2009
12:45 pm
Didn’t Dusty’s close a month ago? Right on top of it, AJC.
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Kevin C
June 2nd, 2009
12:56 pm
I just recently went to Rolling Bones and had the BBQ tacos (chicken, pork, and brisket)…I was craving it again the next day for lunch! Not only was it creative but also very tasty. You can’t go wrong with any sides and the cookie topped it off just as good as mom used to. Great spot for lunch if you are in the area.
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Bacchus
June 2nd, 2009
1:08 pm
check it…
http://liquidiceny.com/
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Bacchus
June 2nd, 2009
1:11 pm
The distributor here in GA is brand new so the website has not yet been updated, but stayed alert for Liquid Ice being available at your favorite bar, restaurant, convenience store, and gas station soon. And if it’s not there be sure to ask for it!
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Darin
June 2nd, 2009
1:13 pm
Yea for the Social mention! I love that place. I was just there last Friday night and enjoyed the chicken liver/toast small plate and it ended up being a fine small dinner (the kind that leaves plenty of room for dessert later) along with a beer. This is currently my fave Atlanta restaurant.
Figo is another place my family likes and it really is a good bargain for the quality of food. I like the spinach papardelle with the mushroom sauce.
Another place I can recommend is Sausalito on Peachtree and 17th. Their enchiladas are really good. It’s a cute spot with a nice patio, but you do have to put up with eating with disposable utensils and plates.
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Darin
June 2nd, 2009
1:18 pm
Well, poo. I never got a chance to go. I guess I didn’t put it high up enough on my list of ‘places to go with my wife when we have a babysitter’. I have really enjoyed the other three Ullio places, especially Fritti, so I’m sure it was good.
I really hope to see a successful authentic Spanish restaurant in Atlanta some time. It’s a cuisine I know little of and would like to try.
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phar71
June 2nd, 2009
1:46 pm
only went once and loved it, should have gone more often.
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Sam
June 2nd, 2009
1:49 pm
Pointless, just go to FOX BROS on Dekalb Ave, best Barb-Q in Georgia.
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Ernest T Bass
June 2nd, 2009
3:36 pm
6 Feet Under on 11th.. Hands Down – Gotta love those Rat Toes..
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Johnny Red Balls
June 2nd, 2009
3:58 pm
6 feet under @ 11th, Stats downtown and 5 Seasons Westside
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Chris
June 2nd, 2009
8:08 pm
Firstly, I apologize for referring to you as, “guy.” I recently moved and the food critic where I used to live was a guy and I forgot it was a new paper. However to say that you, “Hit a nerve,” completely misses the point of our comments. You were not writing an article on some sensitive topic where people get riled up. If any “nerve” was hit, it’s the one that says, “I don’t want to spend thirty dollars on dinner and need to hit McDonald’s on the way home.” To say that, “No, you can’t eat everything on the menu and drink booze until your skull aches.” Is such a terrible straw man and everyone can see it. Did anyone on here imply that we should be able to eat anything we want and buy a bunch of drinks. No, we merely wanted more to our meal than a salad and appetizer. If I am wrong, by all means tell me. Please point out what entrees we could order at these places and get out for less than $30. Figo certainly hits this mark. But I would have a very difficult time at most of these places.
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BJo
June 2nd, 2009
8:47 pm
Nothing better than a BLT with a very fresh red orb from the garden. A side of cole slaw and a cool Coke……. I’m in heaven.
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jon
June 2nd, 2009
8:59 pm
I love tomatoes – but I refuse to buy those simulated tomato products they sell in the produce section of the grocery store at any time of the year. And the roadside stand tomatoes are hardly any better. They are bred for shelf life and not for taste. If more people had ever eaten a true homegrown tomato, they would also refuse to buy the crap the commercial growers call tomatoes, forcing them to work on the taste instead of the shelf life.
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catlady
June 2nd, 2009
9:13 pm
I have about 60 plants of various types, looking so forward to sampling. I am learning to eat raw tomatoes now, but the best way besides stewed on spaggetti, is to cut in half, put half miracle whip and half sour cream on the top, and put under the broiler for a few minutes. Yummmmmm!
Store bought tomatoes are an affront to the Almighty.
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KC
June 2nd, 2009
9:33 pm
I agree. Homegrown tastes like summer. Yummy!
I am looking for recommendations though… which are the best kind to buy for taste? Big Boy, Beefsteak, etc? And how about hybrid vs. heirloom? I try to look for heirloom because I think Mother Nature knows best, but there is usually more hybrid available. Thanks in advance!
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lovemygrub
June 2nd, 2009
9:38 pm
I agree with Chris, and sorry to the hypersensitive critic! Nobody expects to drink “until our skulls ache” but want to go for a date night for a reasonable price. My advice — try Decatur. My date and I each had three beers, an appetizer and two dinners for $50 at Universal Joint. The best hummus I’ve ever had. Nothing fancy, but an interesting and fun crowd and great service.
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cdrobi
June 2nd, 2009
9:38 pm
Straight off the home grown vine, washed and salt in the palm of your hand (take me back to childhood in PA and daddy’s garden) the taste is unbelievable. The stores just don’t get it…
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lovemygrub
June 2nd, 2009
10:10 pm
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 3rd, 2009
9:42 am
No problem on the guy thing Chris. Just thought you should know. Social — have you tried it? definitely a good spot that’s not expensive. Pure — have you tried it? Ditto. Figo definitely. The only place on this list that seems questionable to me is the Shed. I put it on the list because it’s a nice neighborhood spot — a little nicer than the others — and the chef and owner try really hard, and yes — if you choose wisely — you can get out for around $30, especially if you go on one their “specials” nights, which I mentioned. I was trying to include places all around the city — Alpharetta, Southside, Downtown, etc. and I wanted at least one of them to be a little more upscale, to allow options for those who might want them. There are many others, of course. Like lovemygrub’s suggestion of the U Joint in Decatur, by all means let me know what spots you like in this category. I would love to include them in an upcoming “Top 5/In Search Of” as readers’ and commentors’ picks.
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Sam
June 3rd, 2009
12:00 pm
KC – The best tomatoes are grown in Arizona! Eurofresh Farms grows vine-ripened, hydroponic tomatoes that are just perfect. You can get them at any Atlanta-area Costco and Super Walmart. I recommend their Campari variety for snacking and the Roma for fresh sauce.
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Molly
June 3rd, 2009
12:48 pm
I love farm fresh tomatoes so much that I am giddy thinking about the upcoming season. Thankfully the drought has gone away for the most part because tomatoes need lots of rain to be juicy. In addition to eating plain with some salt, i will cut into large chunks for a tomato salad. Add some good olive oil, a crushed garlic clove (don’t chop the garlic or it will be to strong – just squash a clove with the slide of a chef knife and toss in with the salad and it will flavor the oil – i recommend warning guests they may not want to eat the raw clove), salt, pepper and a one of the following chopped herbs if desired – basil, cilantro or italian parsley all add a nice flavor. YUM. I can’t wait for my CSA to start including tomatoes in our box!
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Jason Greene
June 3rd, 2009
1:00 pm
OK, you guys. Lay off Meridith. Most true foodies do not live OTP. We dedicated foodies live in the city, not in restaurant chain heaven(OTP), Yes there are many other bargain spots in the city, besides these. And she does not get reduced dinners, when she is doing a review.
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Jason Greene
June 3rd, 2009
1:15 pm
Growing up in the South, it was always a fresh tomato from my Grandmother’s city garden, with Hellman’s Mayo, on White Bread, and Black Pepper. And of course, a glass of ice cold sweet tea.
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Nancy
June 3rd, 2009
1:24 pm
I admit I have a penchant for Buford Highway and other ethnic dining, and there are plenty of inexpensive but delicious places there. I love Panahar and Little Malaysia (no atmosphere but amazing food). Both of these are BYOB, which really stetches the dollar. Another good option is to check restaurant websites for dinner specials – Ecco and La Tavola both offer wine and pasta for $15 on Monday night and many other places have week night specials. I love reading all the reviews and then checking out websites so that I’m aware of the menu specials.
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Becky
June 3rd, 2009
3:17 pm
Fresh tomato out of the garden on white bread with Blue Plate mayo, sliced onion with salt and pepper to taste, with a big glass of ice cold milk..It doesn’t get any better than that…
I work in Cobb County and there is a road side market off of S. Cobb Dr. that has really great tomatoes…
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Stephanie
June 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
I went several times. Only once was good. After that, the food and service deteriorated badly, and for one who lived in Spain, these folks better head for La Mancha.
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LT
June 3rd, 2009
3:40 pm
Actually, a great place to go right now for a good deal is Ippolito’s (I know of 2 locations & both are OTP). They are running a “Hard Times” special on several menu items. $7.95 at lunch & $8.95 at dinner and it comes with a coke.
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EE Riggin
June 3rd, 2009
4:30 pm
BRANDYWINE AND CUCUMBER WHITE BREAD SANDWICH
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chad
June 3rd, 2009
5:42 pm
love this stuff, but i actually like mine warmed up a lil.
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Jason
June 3rd, 2009
8:58 pm
What about Ted Montana Grill? 10.00 coupons on the website,12.00 lunch and 15.00 dinner deals. Go to there website and get 10.00 coupons. Midtown(Buckhead) has eat great for 8,a lunch special that runs all week.Great food,great service!!
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Grant
June 3rd, 2009
9:23 pm
Just want to stick up for MFG here. This is not a “Cheap Eats” rundown (CL & CityGuide have those, though, and they are very helpful when hunting that kind of place), but it’s not a bad list for nice restaurants where you can feasibly squeak in and out without breaking the bank – even if it does mean the lighter side of the food and drink offerings. Cheers to Nancy and Michelle for Top Flr and Panahar, too.
In regards to “concerned,” I think that your comment is more fitting to the point that the AJC is currently headlining sports news, and that there is no mention of GM, Air France, or New Hampshire on the home page. If anything, MFG is what keeps this newspaper from not being the worst newspaper.
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ihorizon
June 3rd, 2009
11:16 pm
Folks forget all that places mentioned above and go to Park Cafe in Duluth…A lunch and dessert can be had for under $15..in fact, they have special $10 meal where you can get a luncheon special: a small mixed green salad, a sandwhich, and a soup. Drink is extra so lemon water is good! This is a wonderful establishment and although I have not had dinner there yet, I do frequent the lunch as it is a beautiful quiet place to be out in the patio. Hope this helps.
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SamAmI
June 4th, 2009
2:45 am
Hunan Gourmet in Sandy Springs for great Chinese and Thai! Great quality and generous portions for the price. Last week’s dinner – $29.43: One Stella Artois, One Iced Tea, an order of Curry Chicken, and an order of Mongolian Beef. Rice of course. Fed us three adults! Absolutely no complaints. Fantastic! Just a few lights from the perimeter. Straight shot down Roswell Road or Lake Forrest from Peachtree.
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obxgrl
June 4th, 2009
8:26 am
What planet does this woman live on? $30 for dinner for two? Does she not know we are in a recession? Give me something less than $20 and not inside the Atlanta city limits.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 4th, 2009
8:34 am
obxgrl: Guess you better head to Chili’s …
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Tucker
June 4th, 2009
8:55 am
Come out to Tucker and try Sangria’s, Mai Thai, Bambinelli’s, and Matthews…under $30 and very tasty.
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Amanda
June 4th, 2009
9:15 am
You folks are aware that the newspaper in question is the ATLANTA Journal-Constitution, not Canton, Alpharetta, Lawrenceville, etc…? Having lived OTP for the majority of my life, I’m not saying there aren’t some great restaurants that are worth the drive but stop whining that you don’t get enough dining reviews. You live next to a major metropolitan city, of course the restaurants there are going to be in the limelight.
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Brad
June 4th, 2009
9:40 am
For $30, but probably less, one can eat like a KING at any “authentic” Chinese or Korean restaurant and there are plenty of these places around Atlanta, both ITP and OTP
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ihorizon
June 4th, 2009
9:51 am
In that case, since the “A” in AJC represents “Atlanta” then I need to recommend definately go to Fresh 2 Order in Midtown. Food is under $30 and you are satified as the meal is that good!!! Go for it!!!
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J.D.
June 4th, 2009
10:13 am
Dailey’s closed?!? Where am I going to get my “Chocolate Charlotte” fix now??? I’m sorry to see both establishments shut down. I understand though that it’s a necessity due to the lack of business revenue. They will be missed.
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Amanda
June 4th, 2009
10:29 am
Nooooooooooo! Not Dailey’s! That was my favorite! We got engaged there
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MARCLAR
June 4th, 2009
12:15 pm
i JUST WANTED TO SAY IT WAS A BUMMER NOT SEEING MIDWAY PUB AND GRILL IN EAST ATLANTA VILLAGE ON THIS LIST. EVERYTHING I’VE HAD THERE WAS GREAT AND VERY WELL PRICED. ALSO SERVICE IS ALWAYS VERY PROMPT. ALSO GOOD OUTSIDE AREA. CHECK IT OUT!
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Chip
June 4th, 2009
4:39 pm
This stinks. I used to love going to Dailey’s as a kid back in the 80’s, in fact I even had my 16th birthday party there. Another beloved institution gone by the wayside.
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Brittany
June 4th, 2009
6:04 pm
Hard boiled eggs but instead of leaving the yolk the same mix it with Italian dressing.TRY IT!!!!!
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Jason
June 4th, 2009
6:06 pm
You do that to!!!It tastes great doesn’t it
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Claudia Franks
June 4th, 2009
8:45 pm
I like drinks with the ATL skyline on our balcony in Decatur…almost a 360 view. Where can I post pictures?
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m.j
June 4th, 2009
11:31 pm
Stop trying to pick and choose customers and treat all the same……look at incentive advertising….Arrogance is closing many restaurants down! Sorry to hear that Dailey’s is closing!
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Mike
June 5th, 2009
8:02 am
Nice rehash of mainstream Mexican food stops but this tired list does not even come close to touching on the great holes-in-the-wall that can be found inside and outside the perimeter. How about actually doing some research and providing some truly good/new/exciting dining information for the readers?
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Mike
June 5th, 2009
8:14 am
“So was it the recession, or location, that closed Cuerno?”
Neither.
It was mediocre food that was overpriced and really bad service.
Cuerno was fun but not good enough.
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Stan
June 5th, 2009
10:27 am
Mike, maybe you didn’t read.
“Either way, these are ten of my favorite taquerias and cantinas. What are yours?”
If you know so many great joints please share with the class.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 5th, 2009
10:42 am
Hi Mike: Please let me know your favorite spots. I’d love to check them out.
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fed up
June 5th, 2009
10:51 am
seriously…all everyone does is bitch and complain. get a life!!!
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Grady
June 5th, 2009
11:07 am
Another victim of Mr. Obama’s “spreadin’ it around”. What a tragedy! The closing of these two venerable institutions is a domino that does not bode well for Atlanta…
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Gildo
June 5th, 2009
11:27 am
Yes….Mi Barrio at Boulevard and Memorial is outstanding…not mentioned above. A family runs the place and is truly authentic.
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mford
June 5th, 2009
11:40 am
Hi Gildo: I did a post on Mi Barrio way back in February of 2008. Here’s what I said:
“Mi Barrio, on Memorial Drive on the outskirts of Grant Park, is an intown find. Family run, the place is relaxed and carefree, with decor ranging from a widescreen TV the size of a small house and bright Mexicana bric-a-brac from hanging sombreros to ceramic jugs.
The food is a mix of Guadalajaran goodies, from ceviche to birria (birrieria — traditionally made with goat but here made with beef because, according to one of the waitresses, no one would order it with goat.) It is an incredibly savory stew with shredded chunks of beef served with corn tortillas, refried beans and rice. The tamales are dry, but tacos adobada (pork stew) and gorditas brimming with chicken, beans, shredded lettuce and sliced tomato with avocado are pure joy. The staff treats everyone like regulars, and there’s an array of Mexican beers to partake of, though I didn’t bother with a margarita. On the weekends, the kitchen offers posole. It truly feels like mi barrio (or tu barrio, depending on your perspective). Mi Barrio, 571 Memorial Drive, Atlanta, 404-223-9279.”
I like Mi Barrio, but not as much as the taquerias I mention above, especially Oaxaquena and San Pancho. I love Los Hermanos in Tucker, too, but it’s more a full-menu Mexican restaurant, neither taqueria or cantina, which is why I didn’t list it. Sangrias in Tucker is fun, too.
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Willy
June 5th, 2009
12:07 pm
This just makes it easier to cram more hot, sugary heaven biscuits into my food hole.
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johnny t-bone
June 5th, 2009
12:27 pm
I agree with Mike. While the parking situation was terrible, the food was just eh, nothing special at all, and service was mediocre. Even if the economy were booming and it was in a prime location, Cuerno would have struggled.
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Patrick
June 5th, 2009
12:33 pm
“Doughnuts. Is there anything they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson, from “The Simpsons” episode “Marge vs. The Monorail”
Now that that’s out of the way, I love the doughnuts sold at our local Ingles. The only three Krispy Kremes I know of are on East Ponce in Atlanta, US 78/Stone Mountain Highway in Stone Mountain, and on Pleasant Hill Road in Duluth. I used to go to the one on Pleasant Hill every other Friday to get doughnuts for the department I work in. That fell through after I left, and if I get an itch (and craving) I might get some. I don’t care for Dunkin’ that much, but if it’s the only thing available, I’ll go there or eat them.
Next time you worry about doughnuts being loaded in fat and calories and carbs (oh my!), only the filled doughnuts, or the twisted ones have all that in them. The regular doughnuts do not. It’s because of that hole in the middle. That hole sucks in all of the baddies, and you don’t eat the hole, now do you? No. You eat around the hole, thereby avoiding said fat, calories, and carbs.
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Proofreader
June 5th, 2009
12:43 pm
“…a whole in the middle”?
You can’t rely on Spell Check alone, kids.
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Tyree
June 5th, 2009
12:49 pm
When in my birthday suit and in an amorous mood, I am able to carry two cups of steaming hot coffee and half a dozen doughnuts back to the bedroom in one trip. The Krispy kreme standard glazed are more flexible and have a silky feeling against my skin adding to the excitement. More times than not this is my spouse’s favorite indulgent treat.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 5th, 2009
1:10 pm
Proofreader: Mea culpa. Thanks and I’ll change that now ….
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mister donut
June 5th, 2009
1:32 pm
I worked at a donut shop in high school – we had this guy who used to get mad at us if we ran out of jelly donuts – so we used to make him a whole box of special jelly donuts and added about 5x the amount of jelly to the donut!! MMMMMMMM jelly!!!
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Grandma
June 5th, 2009
1:45 pm
Here is a real tomtoe treat: trim the top off the tomatoes, scoop out the center & fill the cavity with a mixture of chopped beef roast or baked chicken chunks with your favorite spices, some garlic and onions, bread cubes, parsley or chives (or both), top with a sprinkling of peparika. Bake at 350 degrees oven for 20 to 25 minutes.
Chop up the tops of the tomatoes and the centers to put in your salad (waste not).
You can add an egg to the stuffing mixture if you like. This is a great Monday night supper after you have had a beef roast or baked chicken for Sunday diner.
I was raised on these, with tomatoes fresh from our garden. I was a spoiled child – raised on a farm.
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Dawg Lover
June 5th, 2009
2:20 pm
TYREE…that comment made me laugh today. THANKS!
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Mac
June 5th, 2009
2:21 pm
The Ingle’s bakery has good doughnuts and I picked up a box for the folks in the office this morning. Didn’t know it was Doughnut Day.
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Barbara
June 5th, 2009
2:23 pm
Doughnuts on a stick, huh, Tyree? Wouldn’t want that bottom one.
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Chris Barber
June 5th, 2009
2:28 pm
Great list Meredith! My favorite on this list is Verde for sure and I am a also big Mexican food fan as well. I am gringo myself so maybe that is why I prefer Verde over the others. : ) I was surprised to read you said to leave the Chipotle Mayo sauce on the side, that’s my favorite thing at Verde! And after Mexican food my next favorite food is Condiments! Yes, it’s a type of food. Good pick on the fried calamari. Who would have thought? I also think the bar is pretty cool too with the wood fixtures and separation from the rest of the restaurant. I like the clear glass beer refrigerator so I can stare at all of my choices for number two as I enjoy number one. Great neighborhood restaurant away from the mainstream. Maybe you should keep your reviews to yourself so us locals can keep it that way…
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Steve
June 5th, 2009
2:36 pm
Donuts are the DEVIL. I live 4 miles from the Krispy Kreme in Stone Mountain…many mornings they call to me…I need help
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JayJay
June 5th, 2009
3:34 pm
Has anyone tried Sublime donuts on 10th? They’re amazing!
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Fan of Jeff Hager
June 5th, 2009
3:51 pm
Dunkin Donuts held a contest to create a new donut. The winner was Jeff Hager from Hoover, AL, who created a “Toffee with your coffee” donut that will be available in September. It’s topped with Heath Bars. YUM! Be sure to give it a try when it comes out! Watch his video at youtube.com/dunkindonuts.
Congratulations Jeff!!!
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Melissa
June 5th, 2009
4:09 pm
Taxco on the corner of Roswell/Wieuca
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RK
June 5th, 2009
4:12 pm
There’s just one thing that needs to be considered: where is the best, most authentic tacos al pastor? It is the definitive food of Mexico City.
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Baxter
June 5th, 2009
4:16 pm
ok i have to agree on the Taqueria del sol. i mean, the food is good and its pretty reasonable but what is it with all the attitude from the folks that work there? both the cheshire bridge and the howell mill locations are just no fun to go to anymore. the line at first was kind of fun, seriously, it was like, ohh, i’m going to be getting something good, but now, its just tired and while the food again is good, the service often times SUCKS. several of us have vowed just not to go back sorry all you sol lovers.
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FEK
June 5th, 2009
4:18 pm
are you kidding??! Nuevo Laredo
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Baxter
June 5th, 2009
4:19 pm
oops I forgot, holy taco in east atlanta is lots of fun, but it totally blows my mind that the staff all seem hard core but there are more couple with kids there than in the burbs. they even have a baby changing station in the mens room…how, sandy springs of them..but its fun to go, until the bratty kids start whining at 10pm, parents..can slap em and you can’t tell em squat when it comes to their kids.
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RK
June 5th, 2009
4:20 pm
I hate -forced- valet parking. I drove my car there — I can get it into a parking space. Atlanta is insane with valets. Oh, complimentary? If you never tip.
I’m not saying that was the issue with Cuerno, though; in a midtown or downtown destination, I expect to have to pay something for parking.
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Srsly?
June 5th, 2009
4:23 pm
Melissa- get out more. File Taxco under “cheap mexican,” i.e. garbage food, syrupy white queso and margarita flavored slushies. These places are only as good as the group you brought to get drunk and stuffed on said garbage food and margarita flavored slushies. I’m pretty sure mford was trying to start a conversation about actual mexican food.
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mimi
June 5th, 2009
4:29 pm
Taqueria Los Rayos, newly relocated to Clairmont Rd. near Buford Hwy in the old Dairy Queen site. Taqueria Los Hermanos (3 locations now).
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paul
June 5th, 2009
4:47 pm
taco veloz????????
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Obama, please beg the Saudis for lower gas prices....
June 5th, 2009
4:54 pm
TACO BELL!!!!They have the VOLCANO!!
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DonH.
June 5th, 2009
4:55 pm
Great list Meredith! Two others I LOVE…Taqueria Los Reyes near Buford Hwy/Clairmont Rd. intersection (in a previous DQ location). This “gem” used to be located at the end of the runway at PDK on Chamblee Tucker Road/Hospital Way. Delicious tacos, burritos and tortas. Steak burritos are LOADED with meat and tacos are generous served with two corn tortillas so you can make two from them.
Also love El Taco Veloz with several locations (Sandy Springs, Buford Hwy, Norcross etc.). They too load their burritos with tons of tasty steak and other filling options!
I just solved my “what’s for dinner tonight” dilemma!
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Obama, please beg the Saudis for lower gas prices....
June 5th, 2009
4:55 pm
Doughnut King baby…in snellville(ouch)
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RAMBLE ON!!!
June 5th, 2009
5:04 pm
Meridith, you have the best job in the world (food critic, how could life get any better).
Verdes is right down the street from me. The cheapest Taco they have is 3.25. Don’t you think that’s a bit pricey, and how does it compare to the others?
mimi…is that place any good?
I drive by it almost everyday.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 5th, 2009
5:05 pm
RK: try the pastor at San Pancho — I really like their version.
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Darin
June 5th, 2009
5:05 pm
I second Don’s recommendation of El Taco Veloz. Great tacos and I love their refried beans too.
I’ve got a place to recommend but I can’t remember the name of it. I’ve been there several times and have really enjoyed the food — it’s just north of the intersection of Clairmont Rd and Buford Highway and it was until recently a Dairy Queen. Anyone know the name?
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Darin
June 5th, 2009
5:18 pm
Dandy Donuts on Chamblee Dunwoody Rd, just NW of it’s intersection with Peachtree Industrial. It’s a tiny white cinderblock building. Their plain yeast donut is my favorite of that variety. But otherwise Sublime is my go-to place. They elevate the doughnut to an art.
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Let
June 5th, 2009
5:21 pm
Definitely Taco Veloz. Thanks for the article. I will check out some of these spots.
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Janet
June 5th, 2009
5:37 pm
It’s such a shame and I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner. Their business had been going downhill for sometime. What’s worse… the brides and clients that put a deposit or paid in full won’t be getting that back. Karma hurts.
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Thatguy
June 5th, 2009
5:57 pm
It’s OTP, but you need to hit up Taco Depot at the corner of Sugarloaf and Old Norcross. Fantastic Al Pastor and chorizo tacos.
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RAMBLE ON!!!
June 5th, 2009
6:03 pm
Hey Darin,
according to DonH, it’s Taqueria Los Reyes. You’re the 3rd person who has mentioned it. I’ll have to check it out. It looks like a dump from the street, but then again, it use to be a DQ.
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The Real Gumby
June 5th, 2009
6:04 pm
I love the barbecue fish served with aztec salsa at Le Grande Carp in East Cobb. Behind the Kroger.
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DonH.
June 5th, 2009
6:04 pm
Darin… it’s Taqueria Los Rayos at the Old Dairy Queen. See my comment above (and Mimi who mentioned it above mine) Her spelling of it was the correct one!
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SteveOh
June 5th, 2009
6:13 pm
Nuevo Laredo for sure is one of the best overall. But the breakfast at El Taco Veloz is the best deal going. Great food at a reasonable price. Close your eyes and you would think you’re in Mexico. Bottom line – lots of good authentic choices in ATL now, REAL margaritas are the challenge and I would love to see some recommendations. Not the mix/slushy kind – but a good booze combination and real limes.
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Best Tacos = Los Rayos
June 5th, 2009
6:13 pm
Gotta agree with Mimi and Don H. on the Taqueria Los Rayos – most authentic & best ones in town. Have about 15 different tacos to choose from (all around $2) and lots of great tortas as well. The chorizo taco & shredded beef are my faves there – your choice of meat on a fresh corn tortilla, simply (and authentically) topped with just white onion, fresh cilantro, and a squeeze of lime. Just like they do it in Mexico.
And as someone that lives on Dresden – exactly between Verde & Los Rayos, and frequents them both – I can vouch for the calimari (and great margaritas) at Verde, the best in town. But I’ve tried most of the tacos on Verde’s menu and none have really hit me – most are bland and sound better on the menu than actually executed. Stick with the calamari (with the great small slices of lightly coated jalepeno’s hidden throughout the basket). And the chiptole ranch dipping sauce rocks too!
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Atlanta Native
June 5th, 2009
6:19 pm
I found a great place in Norcross at the corner of Peachtree Ind. and Medlock Bridge. I do not know the name, but here is a picture: http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=Peachtree+Industrial+Blvd+%26+Medlock+Bridge+Rd,+Norcross,+GA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=7YspSoLTEZyltge2zuy3CA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
Go on Sat. or Sun. and get Tamales!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tacos-a-go-go
June 5th, 2009
7:17 pm
Wow…you’ve missed several. I can’t believe you forgot Bone Garden Cantina on Ellsworth Industrial!??! Great food and the best trivia (according to Reader’s Choice in “The Sunday Paper”) every Wednesday at 8:30. Perhaps you should take a visit before passing judgment on the best taqueria’s in Atlanta.
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Patrick
June 5th, 2009
8:01 pm
Anyone know if Los Reyes is still in business in Marietta? It’s somewhere near the big chicken. Not sure if it’s a chain or related to the similar named place that used to be a DQ.
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Joey
June 5th, 2009
8:15 pm
Taxco on Roswell is the best! Nuevo Laredo is awful! Not real Mexican food at all.
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PennyLane
June 5th, 2009
8:50 pm
Just returned from our first trip to Taqueria Los Rayos. After passing by the restaurant every day, we decided to give it a try. It was delicious. The tacos were outstanding, the beef cheek was super tender and the “flat meat” was good too. The torta al pastor was huge and so good, and an incredible bargain at $5. Must go!
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JimC
June 5th, 2009
9:01 pm
Taqueria Los Hermanos in Tucker. Cal-Mex, not the usual Tex-Mex. Great soft tacos, and the tilapia tacos are to die for.
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Lola
June 5th, 2009
9:51 pm
Tacos el Pastor (beer braised pork taco) at Las Margaritas on Cheshire Bridge are the best! They have an extensive taco menu…$2 on Tuesdays
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Jeremy
June 5th, 2009
10:33 pm
Taqueria Las Comadres (Thornton Rd. in Lithia Springs) serves some amazing, authentic Mexican. The Cochinitas…wow. Also, when you order guacamole, they make it to suit your tastes. I love a lot of the places others have mentioned, but if you’re interested in Oaxacan/Mexican cuisine, I cannot recommend Las Comadres highly enough (BYOB & closed Sundays).
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Charlie
June 5th, 2009
10:52 pm
Meredith- nice list-i’ve been a fan of Taqueria del Sol since they opened. Now I have other options. I don’t frequent del Sol much anymore as the underlying tension between staff & customers get’s tiresome. Even the guys working the bar/counter for lunch have a ‘tude.
I’m interested in the place you mention in Jonesboro on Mt Zion. My map software can’t find that address. When you click on the website link nothing on the page works. Have a better address or intersection.
Thanks for the great list.
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JEM
June 5th, 2009
10:57 pm
Hey Mike! Where did you go?
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WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
June 5th, 2009
11:01 pm
EL TORERO. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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count_schemula
June 5th, 2009
11:29 pm
Taqueria Los Rayos – if there is better, I need to know… have not been to the new location, but had been going to the original West Hospital location since the 90’s. Off th bus real Mexican. Tacos and Tortas and horchata.
I have also quit Taqueria del Sol. The crappy hours (11am to 11:30am, 1pm to 1:15pm, 6pm to 8pm), the lines, etc. I love the food, but I won’t be treated that way by a bunch of uptight taco punks.
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Roswell Ed
June 6th, 2009
6:08 am
I can’t imagine a better one than Mr Taco in Holcomb Bridge.
I also like the restaurants inside Tres Hermanos. The beef toungue tacos are out of this world.
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Justin
June 6th, 2009
8:05 am
La Pastorcita on Buford Hgwy. Great hole in the wall. Best carne asada in Atlanta hands down.
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atlstar01
June 6th, 2009
8:29 am
CAn anyone tell me where to find the best chicken chimichangas in Atlanta. I used to live in Nevada and they had the best I ever tasted! They were deep fried and just right! Please help, I have been craving forever.
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Ben
June 6th, 2009
8:32 am
I boycotted Taqueria del Sol 2 years ago and have not been back since. No restaurant is worth my time and money, especially one that exudes rude service and attitude. I can’t understand why people find it to be part of the appeal. There are plenty of other restaurants around town to go to. Hasta la vista, Taqueria!
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Mex Mary
June 6th, 2009
8:35 am
Agreed, Taqueria del Sol has no Soul. It is the deathstar of customer service.
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foodlover
June 6th, 2009
11:00 am
tijuana joe’s salsa, great food (a lot of it) but the salsa and chips are awesome.
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Joel
June 6th, 2009
11:44 am
The best tacos come from the roach coaches that drive around construction sites. They are authentic!
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Kelly
June 6th, 2009
11:47 am
Monterrey on Buford Hghwy just inside 285 is awesome. The chicken tacos are outstanding. But you have to go to this location, some of the other Monterrey locations are no where near as good. Margaritas are outstanding also.
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JimC
June 6th, 2009
1:00 pm
At Los Hermanos in Tucker, besides the great soft tacos, don’t miss the homemade tamales. Actually everything on the menu is marvelous.
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Atlanta Native
June 6th, 2009
1:06 pm
Thanks for the list. I haven’t been able to find that perfect place to eat since the closing of Rio Bravos! What a loss.
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Mark
June 6th, 2009
2:09 pm
The hairy Taco, hands down!
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Paul
June 6th, 2009
2:10 pm
The Mighty Taco in Buffalo NY
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JimC
June 6th, 2009
2:30 pm
Paul, Buffalo NY ain’t Atlanta GA!
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Fred Brown
June 7th, 2009
5:52 am
Hello Meridith, I think something’s a little off on the formatting of Table Talk. The left-hand side is cropped a little too close. This is consistent on Table Talk and not a characteristic of other blogs and websites.
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KWN
June 7th, 2009
9:41 am
I like Taco Veloz for carry out and they have awesome condiments/sauces. I would never take a date there.
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JumpStart
June 7th, 2009
10:02 am
How could you not mention Nuevo Laredo.. or No Mas.. or Uncle Julio’s? Especially Nuevo Laredo! Hello!
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KWN
June 7th, 2009
10:14 am
Pure Taqueria – I had a bad experience there. I loved the concept though. The hostess was extremely rude, service was poor. I had gone to lunch with a bunch of co-workers, most of whom were Indian. Given how our table was the only table seemingly having these problems, I felt extremely embarrassed for our country.
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KWN
June 7th, 2009
10:14 am
Oh and I’ve never been back since then.
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j
June 7th, 2009
10:38 am
BONE GARDEN CANTINA off of howell mill road by far. they have an authentic a la carte menu. everything is fantastic! i was a big fan of NEUVO LAREDO, until i tried BONE GARDEN. we bring family and friends there all the time because we can always count on fabulous food and service!
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Allen
June 7th, 2009
2:33 pm
Rojo Taqueria on Holcomb Bridge rules. Best margaritas and fish tacos in Atlanta. The house margarita is only $5.00 and they use fresh squeezed lime juice. They have over 80 different tequilas, a cool patio, unique bar, and the staff is very pleasant unlike some places. They have my family hooked.
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Paul
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
JimC, I know it “ain’t”, cletus. But Mighty taco beats all Taquerias and cantinas in and around Atl. Don’t you know by now that us northerners always do it better than you southern hicks?
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Teresha
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
I am literally in tears. Dailey’s Midnight Cake was my late night at work fix. The City Grill holds sentimental value for me and my husband. We held our wedding reception there on July 15, 2000. Kim and her staff were so gracious and worked hard to make our special day even more memorable. It was a tradition of ours to have dinner there on our anniversary. This will be the first year we won’t be able to go. *sniff*
p.s. I’ll ignore the Obama comment, because this economic mess started with the Bush administration…he just got out and left Obama holding the bag.
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Claire
June 8th, 2009
9:33 am
I love my dog, but this is just stupid…no dog wants to sit at a restaurant while his owner eats. Get a grip people, no matter how much you love them, they are still DOGS.
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GeoffDawg
June 8th, 2009
9:39 am
Couldn’t disagree with Claire more – as long as the dog is well fed and hydrated, there’s nothing wrong with having him at a restaurant provided he’s not bothering other customers. What dog would prefer to be left home alone rather than take a car ride and spend some time with the family?
The outdoor seating of the Marietta Pizza Company at the Marietta Square has traditionally attracted a pretty good dog loving contingent.
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Becky
June 8th, 2009
9:41 am
Anyplace in Oakhurst Village! Steinbeck’s Oyster House, Mojo Pizza, Universal Joint, and Matador all have great outdoor seating and are incredibly welcoming to dogs with water bowls, treats, etc. I have to agree with GeoffDawg — our dog LOVES to go out to eat — how can that NOT be better than staying at home alone?
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Hal Whiteman
June 8th, 2009
9:45 am
Nancy G’s in south Sandy Springs has a huge deck where your dogs are always welcome. She provides big bowls of water
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ThePoochProfessor
June 8th, 2009
9:45 am
I would love to know, myself! One of my goals is to have my students take their dogs to restaurants where it is allowed, so they can practice their training. I take mine to Panera a lot, especially at Loehmann’s plaza (Moe’s there is good, too). I had a list of dog-friendly places a while back, but seem to have lost it.
I agree that manners matter! Ideally, the other patrons shouldn’t even notice you have a dog with you because he’s being so good. We are quickly losing our rights as dog owners, and this is a great way for folks to keep up with Fido’s manners as well as show non-dog folks that dogs are not nuisances.
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ThePoochProfessor
June 8th, 2009
9:49 am
I think maybe Claire doesn’t like eating at places with dogs? If they are not well-behaved, I can understand, but if they are, you shouldn’t worry about it. They want to be with us…as long as it is safe, they are not too hot, they are well-behaved, and they do not bother other patrons, I think it’s a great idea.
I prefer a dog at the table next to me much more than a ill-behaved child, or someone smoking.
There are some well-meaning people who drag their dogs everywhere, and there are certainly places where this is ill-advised, but most dogs I see out are generally enjoying themselves. It’s better than being stuck in the backyard all the time, with no company.
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sd
June 8th, 2009
10:09 am
I used to take my dogs to The Brew House in little 5 a lot. Don’t know if they are still welcome there or not.
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ThrashATL
June 8th, 2009
10:13 am
There’s a place in Alpha, off Main on Milton, Corner Deli, that has a patio and they allow pets all hours/days. They provide water bowls & biscuits. I’ve been there dozens of times with my two dogs and there has never been a problem with other dogs misbehaving. It’s a great way to start the weekend, the dogs even get their own omelettes (2 eggs, no oil) and dry wheat toast.
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Jeff
June 8th, 2009
10:15 am
Quattro and Willy’s at 12th and Piedmont on Piedmont Park have very dog-friendly patios with plenty of water bowls.
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BB
June 8th, 2009
10:23 am
I agree with Claire. They are DOGS and they have no soul like human beings due. Our society is becoming obsessed with animals especially dogs. Again, get a grip and instead of taking your dog out to eat, take someone (human) who has fallen down on hard time out to these places and feed them. I do.
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Sarah
June 8th, 2009
10:26 am
Some folks just don’t get it. Claire and BB, there’s a quaint little place called McDonalds for you types. It’s full of noisey kids and unattractive people, you’ll feel right at home!
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macarolina
June 8th, 2009
10:27 am
Agreed on Oakhurst, and add on Brew Pub in Little 5 Points (they sell doggie ice cream) and Vinocity in Kirkwood. Our dog loves to come hang out with us- she is well behaved and gets lots of love from others when she goes public.
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Charlie Kane
June 8th, 2009
10:33 am
I’d rather eat with dogs than with damn kids. And, for the record, you illiterate ass, how “due” [sic] you know dogs don’t have souls? There is dogma [forgive the pun] that days they “due” [sic].
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GeoffDawg
June 8th, 2009
10:35 am
BB and Claire – if a restaurant caters to canines, it’s very simple – just don’t go there. Do you think there are a dearth of suitable eating establishments in metro Atlanta? Why in the world do you care that some people like to dine with their dogs?
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Cynthia
June 8th, 2009
10:36 am
I think it’s a great idea – how nice it would be to meet your friend who also has a dog for lunch and let the dogs socialize while you two eat and chat. I digg it!
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Becky
June 8th, 2009
10:51 am
I don’t have a dog, but wouldn’t be offended if I went to a restaurant where people had dogs..Like others say, if the dog is well behaved and isn’t slobbering all over the place, it’s no big deal..We as a society are to concerned with what other people think instead of what makes us happy..
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dogs get alpo
June 8th, 2009
10:52 am
Sorry. I refuse to cater to the ridiculous self indulgence of some pet owners, and restaurants that welcome animals will get exactly none of my money.
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Jeff
June 8th, 2009
10:55 am
Claire and BB — You two are exactly the reason dogs bite.
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Emma
June 8th, 2009
11:02 am
Spot on, Charlie Kane and Jeff!
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Elbert
June 8th, 2009
11:06 am
There is an excellent Korean restaurant called The Korean Kitchen about a few blocks down from my subdivision that encourages everyone to bring their dogs. My wife and I go there quite often. Oddly, though, many people have their dogs “run away” while dining there. The food sure is good, though!
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Miss_Lola
June 8th, 2009
11:11 am
I would LOVE to find a place to go with my extremely well behaved Aussie. She is better behaved than most small children, listens and sits/lays at my feet all the time. I’d rather bring her than leave her at home alone.
Bruster’s by us gives free “doggie sundaes.” Vanilla ice cream topped with a milk-bone biscuit..yes, FREE. My girl loves to go there!
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iurehg
June 8th, 2009
11:35 am
my dog only moves to go out to do her businessbefore eating at 6am and 6pm. she likes to rest on a cool surface at all other times.
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bs1887
June 8th, 2009
11:41 am
I always ask seated patrons if I may sit by them when I have my dog and so far no one has said no; if no one is seated on the patio, I chose the most out of the way table and have never had an issue. Taco Mac refused to seat us but Panera is always great, Atlanta Bread Company, Starbucks, Brusters Ice Cream (give a free doggie treat) and even Artuzzi’s before it moved from Roswell Road. Please be considerate of others – just as I would not take a child that could not sit still and behave to an eatery, I wouldn’t take my dog if he could not either.
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Excusez-moi
June 8th, 2009
11:46 am
It’s very common to take your dog to a restaurant in Europe. As mom of two kids and two dogs, I’d rather have well behaved dogs sitting next to me than fussy moms with their even fussier kids.
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Amy
June 8th, 2009
11:50 am
It’s also important for those traveling with their dogs that they have pet-friendly options. It’s usually not allowed to leave your pet in the hotel room unattended.
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John
June 8th, 2009
12:18 pm
I believe David Roberts stayed with Sam.
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how2fish
June 8th, 2009
12:24 pm
The Park Tavern at Piedmont Park is very dog friendly…and dogs or kids don’t bother me as long as they are well behaved…those that aren’t..kids or dogs should be left at home…
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bill
June 8th, 2009
12:52 pm
I went to Nancy G’s two weekends ago and sat outside on the patio. I had never been there before and didn’t know anything about the dog-friendly seating. A patron came in with dog that was well-behaved and quiet. The trouble started when the next patron came in with another dog and the two pets started thrashing around and yelping at each other while the two owners tried to let them “meet” each other – seemingly oblivious to the disturbance that they were causing. We left immediately and I will not be back to Nancy G’s. I like dogs just fine, but they don’t belong in restaurants any more than smokers do. There seems to be a selfish attitude here with dog owners that is similar to smokers: “if you have problem with my dog/cigarette that is your problem and you are too sensitive”. No, I don’t want to listen to your dog yelping. I don’t want them jumping on me: I don’t want to trip over their leashes; I don’t want dog hair floating into my meal, etc. Nancy G. take heed. You lost a customer.
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RBSAtlanta
June 8th, 2009
1:00 pm
I assume we’re speaking of VERY casual restos …
Meh – I’m less likely to frequent a place where dogs are allowed inside. Oddly enough, I think I would be more turned off with the lap-dog size (you know, the little yapping fuballs) than with a lab or any larger dog. I think it’s the proximity to the table that bothers me and I’ve seen far too many people eat with their dogs in their laps.
I don’t take issue at all with dogs on a patio or outside. As a matter of fact, if your dog is friendly enough he may get a nibble or two thrown his way when you’re not looking.
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RBSAtlanta
June 8th, 2009
1:04 pm
SWEET! Little Cuba just isn’t cutting it for me, sandwich-wise. (but the vaca frita is fantastic!)
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GeoffDawg
June 8th, 2009
1:09 pm
bill – this is not selfish at all on the part of dog owners. If a restaurant wants to cater to a niche clientele, then what do you care? You have no inalienable right to visit whatever restaurant you want and have the conditions be however you want them. What you do have is freedom of choice and you can easily choose to go to the place across the street.
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ThePoochProfessor
June 8th, 2009
1:14 pm
//The trouble started when the next patron came in with another dog and the two pets started thrashing around and yelping at each other while the two owners tried to let them “meet” each other – seemingly oblivious to the disturbance that they were causing.//
This is as unacceptable to me as someone allowing their child to disrupt my meal. I’m sorry this happened to you. Did you tell a manager? Or has the restaurant lost a customer not over bad food or service, but over something they had little control over at that moment? If you told them about your experience, they might make a “no dogs meeting on patio” rule or something. (I know nothing about the restaurant you cite.)
People are perfectly fine to eschew establishments that do not make them feel welcome (you’ll never see me at Chuck E. Cheese
, or Joel). I know there are non-dog folks out there, and if they are paying, they have a right to eat unbothered by your dog, or even the presence of your dog.
On a restaurant patio is no place for dogs (or kids) to play and be obnoxious. Dogs at eateries should lie quietly at the owners’ feet, and, like I said before, should be “invisible” so as not to bother other patrons. No one should haul their obnoxious dog with them just because they can. Civility, empathy, and manners are things that have clearly gone the way of the Dodo in some places.
Dogs need manners just like kids and adults do. What’s so hard about that?
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Angela Naphin
June 8th, 2009
2:07 pm
Okay, so we won’t be going here….
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Ande
June 8th, 2009
3:01 pm
I loved Cuerno and was saddened to see it go. I have to disagree with the first 2 posters, though, I thought the food was exquisite and very reminiscent of our travels to Spain. I hope he opens again somewhere with better parking sometime. I miss the squid ink paella!
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Tom
June 8th, 2009
3:33 pm
Dogs become a huge part of our lives, it is a great to take them places with us. They love to go places too. My dog loves to be around people and other pets. I think this is a great idea!
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Susan
June 8th, 2009
10:58 pm
Any Chinese restaurant where variety of dishes available under “101 Ways to Wok your Dog” on menu!
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ihorizon
June 8th, 2009
11:01 pm
So where next Fifo?..ok joking aside… My retriever and I ususally go through drive-throughs and eat in the parking lot. When the cashiers see the doggie, he sometimes gets a doggie treat!!!
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Midtown chick
June 9th, 2009
12:20 am
So where do I take my cat for a Cheezburger??
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Ever been to France ?
June 9th, 2009
12:36 am
In France pets are considered part of your family and are accepted most anywhere not only restaurants. At the cafe, bakery, post office you will see dogs. The only thing I judge a person by is how my dog reacts to them, my pooches are excellent judges of character. Any man who wants to get to know me, has to pass the test with my dogs first.
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Joy
June 9th, 2009
6:34 am
My active terrier would never sit through a full, civilzed meal among strangers and waitrons, but she DOES love a good cold treat on a hot day! So we’ll go to Sheridan’s (Lawrenceville Hwy, Tucker) where I can get a smoothie or frozen custard and listen to oldies, and Kasha gets a “puppy cone” just for her! The kids love watching the dog and vice versa!
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Deb
June 9th, 2009
7:24 am
I don’t think the dogs are the problem here. I think it’s just the terminology. If the question were posed as ‘what restaurants welcome dogs on their patios’, rather than ‘where do you take your dog out to dinner’ – I think those against would have responded differently.
In Ireland everyone brings their dogs along where ever they go. So much so, that when we are there we buy a box of dog biscuits to carry with us to hand out treats.
But come on folks, every one is entitled to their opinion. If someone is opposed, don’t get insulting.
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AbbyLover
June 9th, 2009
7:59 am
Claire – you are SO wrong. My dog would rather be out and about with me than sitting inside. Seeing as how she is only 4.5 pounds she does not have the ability to be left outside alone.
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CATS?????
June 9th, 2009
8:01 am
Cats are evil………..
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Linda Lee
June 9th, 2009
8:15 am
We stopped by Bruster’s on Due West Road (Marietta) after taking our dogs to the Acworth Dog Park on Pitner Road. Our dogs were offered *Doggie Sundaes* (frozen vanilla ice cream or yogurt with a Milk Bone *cookie*) tucked into each one. It was a fun, unexpected treat for our pooches while we ate our own frozen treats at the outdoor, shaded seating area. I don’t know if all Bruster’s locations do this, but it was a nice surprise. Thumbs up to all dog-loving and accomodating restraunteers!
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Still Say they Are
June 9th, 2009
8:17 am
Cats are still evil!!!!!!
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leah
June 9th, 2009
8:34 am
Meehan’s in the Vinings is very dog-friendly. Also, the Taco Mac in the Highlands always loves to serve my pup water from a beer bucket. At George’s and Moe’s and Joe’s, you can keep your dog outside of the patio fence and they’ll provide a water bowl for you. Same goes for the Highlander. I have heard that the Treehouse in Peachtree Hills is a haven for pets, also.
There is also a place called Park Grounds that apparently has a little dog area for patrons.
As far as dogs not wanting to sit with their owners while they eat…I’m pretty sure mine would rather be out with me and socializing with other people and pets than at home by herself. If I choose between dealing with human kids running amok, or dogs laying by someone’s feet, I’ll pick the latter every time.
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CP
June 9th, 2009
8:38 am
My 2 dogs are not good candidates for going to a restaurant. However, dogs should be welcome if they are well-behaved. The same can be said of children – they should only be in restaurants if they can behave.
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cjamesatl
June 9th, 2009
8:40 am
Quit doggin’ on Claire, y’all. I have three pooches of my own, and I have to agree. Besides, no one takes their dog to a restaurant for the sake of the dog. Let’s face it, they take their dog to the restaurant in the hopes of chatting up other people: basically a singles scene. I can’t believe this has been discussed so much here, and especially why I’m compelled to even respond myself. All best to dog-friendly restaurants, but I won’t be toting my 4-footed furry friends around like chattle for show in this hot weather. That’s just inhumane.
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Jackie
June 9th, 2009
8:41 am
I don’t care if a dog is in a restaurant. I just won’t eat at that restaurant . All dogs have an odor that I don’t want to smell while Im eating.
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Cliff
June 9th, 2009
8:47 am
There is a great place called Park Grounds in Reynoldstown. It’s a coffee shop with coffee, sandwiches etc. and a small dog park attached to it. They also sell locally made dog treats. I take my pup every weekend. It’s great! Check it out.
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Turd Ferguson
June 9th, 2009
8:52 am
Cuban Steak Sandwich and a frosty Moosehead…YEEEAAAA!!!!
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Amy
June 9th, 2009
8:54 am
I’ve seen a lot of dogs on the patio at Twains in Decatur. There are usually a few water bowls scattered around for people to use.
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CE
June 9th, 2009
8:59 am
I feel sorry for Claire’s dog
cj-I’m sorry you are STILL single. Bitter-party of 1
Jackie – it’s you honey, not the dog:-)
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dogzrule
June 9th, 2009
8:59 am
I’m sorry, but my 5-year-old yellow lab is better behaved than most children I know, yet children are allowed in restaurants while my “son” is not. I would love to take him out with us occasionally so I think it’s a wonderful idea that some restaurants have opened their doggie doors to my entire family!
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CE
June 9th, 2009
9:07 am
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Vikki
June 9th, 2009
9:08 am
When I heard they had moved to Canton I was very sad. This is great news! Keep us posted on their opening.
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Rex
June 9th, 2009
9:08 am
Have a rescue puppy who loves to go to Paddy’s pub at Chateau Elan. They are always considerate and bring water out for the dogs. Definitely would rather have dogs around that a bunch of ill mannered rug rats.
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KTCandler
June 9th, 2009
9:09 am
I hope folks catch the well behaved part. I am sure the manish woman that lives down the block from me will take her overly vocal mini collie and semi retarded lab mix. That menace takes those dogs everywhere and trust me, the ARE NOT Well behaved. Neither is she for that matter.
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Liz Buddenhagen
June 9th, 2009
12:20 pm
Wow. This is not a hot spot! These are what I have identified so far as restaurants willing to work with the no salt with minimal fuss: Longhorn’s and Carrabbas (as far as chains go). In Athens, there is Last Resort, The Savannah Room at UGA, Harry Bissetts (limited), and Five and Ten. If anybody can help me out and add on for Atlanta locations – that would be great. BTW a Carrabbas wait person told me they are prepared to work with any kind of diet a customer is on, including gluten free.
So far in Atlanta, I have Houston’s. I am working on Little Bankok but it is a work in progress.
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Kar
June 9th, 2009
2:03 pm
A soft spot for La Fonda Paisa in the Fiesta Plaza. Despite the almost nonstop replaying of “The Punisher” and bad tejano videos, dependable barbacoa and carne asada tacos.
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Katherine Strate
June 9th, 2009
2:24 pm
Um, that sounds amazing. What a fabulous idea! I’m thirsty now. Good find, Meridith!
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Bill Foster
June 9th, 2009
3:31 pm
Well that is really a shame, as the food was excellent, the decor fun and the service just fine. Atlanta needs authentic cuisines from other parts of the world and Cuerno certainly filled that requirement wrt Spanish food.
I do agree that the parking was a little strange.
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reservoirDAWG
June 9th, 2009
4:31 pm
How about lemonade ice cubes in sweet tea?
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Lola's Dad
June 9th, 2009
5:36 pm
Have to agree with Dogzrule. People who complain are likely to also be the ones who let their children run wild around my table and pretend they don’t see or hear anything wrong with it.
I was in Europe last year and dogs are allowed in restaurants, subways, etc. Mind you, has to be well behaved, but that is the owner’s responsibility. (That goes for kids too)
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Donna
June 9th, 2009
5:52 pm
I can’t wait to see this. We need to be a thin and healthy nation. This might help us get started.
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JimC
June 9th, 2009
7:49 pm
Paul, after living in ATL for 63 years, you’d think I would have learned that Yankees are smarter than us hicks down here.
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Poor Teresha
June 10th, 2009
9:05 am
The economic mess started with Clinton and Dodd. 9/11 also Clinton, let Bin Laden go free.
You can blame them for Dailey’s and City Grill closing.
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Turd Ferguson
June 10th, 2009
10:42 am
Muchadoo-doo about nothing. All Hogwash!!
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Hmmm
June 10th, 2009
12:12 pm
Not gonna lie, liquid ice looks reminds me of the crap I took in my toilet last night. Not pretty. I did try a whynatte the other day and had one of the best nights of my life.
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Cristina
June 10th, 2009
1:11 pm
If you’re part of the AAllatoona Lake crowd, The restaurant at Victoria Landing, Props & Hops, is dog friendly, and they have water bowls. They are under a new owner this year, so as of last week, there is no alcohol, but they said soon. I went there last year and it was horrible, but the new owners have really put some good food on there
It was nice to take the dog out on the lake and not have to leave her on the boat to go eat.
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pity the haters
June 10th, 2009
1:13 pm
I believe the original purpose of this article was to request that DOG FRIENDLY people submit DOG FRIENDLY places they know. Why it turned into a forum on dog smell/behavior/acceptibility, I can only chalk up to the poor cretins (I would call them souls but I don’t think they have any) who insist on having an opinion on something they either don’t understand or know nothing about. If you hate dogs, I’m sad for you, but quit choking this comment page with your inane, unsolicited and unappreciated rhetoric; you are only proving your lack of qualification to be included here. Leave this page for those who love dogs and take your pathetic need to force your opinion on everyone somewhere else.
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Stephanie
June 10th, 2009
1:45 pm
This place sucked at the end. Surly arrogant service, mediocre meals, parking issues and hefty price tags. I lived in Spain for a year, and the food was an attempt at authenticity……an attempt. This restaurant closed because each successive visit got worse. Who, I ask, was minding the store? Que lastima.
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reservoirDAWG
June 10th, 2009
2:17 pm
PB&J with cheetos on the sandwich.
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Alpharettal Girl
June 10th, 2009
2:17 pm
Like someone else noted, Corner Deli in downtown Alpharetta is popular for dog owners. While I don’t have dogs myself, I’ve been there for breakfast many times on the outside patio. Most of the dogs are well behaved, given water, and not a nuisance. It’s up to the individual. I think it gives you the opportunity to interact with other people and their animals when you are out and about that you would normally ignore. It makes for a more open and friendly environment. If you don’t like having animals in the same area don’t go. Can’t get much easier than that!
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burton
June 10th, 2009
2:25 pm
authenticity in atlanta? at least it was an attempt. just because it comes on a small plate it does not mean a tapa. some of the stuff you see in spain you could never serve here. a shrimp with eyeballs and antenna attached, baby eels or barnacles. how about fried sardines and squid in it’s own ink? off to the varsity.
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Del
June 10th, 2009
2:50 pm
Anis, a french restaurant on Grandview in Buckhead, allows dogs on their very attractive patio. Their food is wonderful!
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Christie
June 10th, 2009
3:01 pm
Looks great, but I live in Birmingham – wonder if it will ever get here?
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Phil Lanier
June 10th, 2009
3:25 pm
I only went there once and I’ve never spent time in Spain, but my take was that I’d eaten better Spainsh elsewhere. And service was just okay, at most. I would much rather take my appetite and dollars to Sotto Sotto or Fritti.
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Phil Lanier
June 10th, 2009
3:39 pm
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a doc on this subject. Corporate farming has been been a “growing problem” even as it has made food production more affordable. The Bushies made sure that corporate interests involved in food production were allowed to put profits over quality or safety, subjugating the FDA just as other industries did the FAA, FCC, SEC and every other business oversight agency. As we’ve all learned (at least some of us) for the umpteenth time business, especially Big Business, will not police itself. I worked with Fortune 500s for a quarter century and learned that the only reason the Big Boys behave is when someone with deep pockets (ie, government or interest groups) stands to fine them or drag them into court. These are the people we have entrusted with our food supply. Scary!
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People lover
June 10th, 2009
3:56 pm
Wow…I clicked on this link specifically to find out which restaurants to add to my list of places to avoid (including those with smokers, rats, roaches, and rowdy patrons). Not that I hate dogs or any of the rest, I just don’t find it particularly enjoyable to have any of them included in my dining experience–certainly not one I pay for. Last I checked, restaurants were established to sell human beings, both young and old, people food. Granted, if a proprietor chooses to serve “extended” family members that’s certainly their right, but just let me know and count me out.
Ironically, as I read through the board what I found most distasteful, and rather disturbing, wasn’t the numerous places that allow dogs (other than guide dogs of course) in dining areas, but the brazen lack of compassion and consideration in human beings for other humans. I’ve loved several pets in my life, but would never elevate their significance above that of another person. Frankly, some of you dog “lovers” sound like people-haters in need of some therapy. Remember we all used to be “damn kids” at some point…right?
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donkey200
June 10th, 2009
3:58 pm
Shame on you BB. Poopoo on you Claire. I totally agree with Jeff. Of course, those two would probably require the dog(s) who might bite them be immediately put to sleep or shot. If a dog does bite one of them, it would surely be because they abused the dog and it had no choice.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 10th, 2009
4:00 pm
People Lover: Thanks for your sanity. Well said.
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JudyLamb
June 10th, 2009
8:15 pm
Mad Italian on Savoy Drive in Chamblee allows dogs on their patio … it’s a great family place and the staff gladly provides a water bowl for canine guests.
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Isabel
June 10th, 2009
10:59 pm
Next someone needs to do a documentary on the link between “industrial (junk) food” and the health problems in America. Diabetes, Colitis, Chronic Fatigue, Lupus, and much more-all of these things can be linked back to the horrible effects on our bodies of grain based agriculture.
We ruin our bodies because it’s cheap, tastes good and we are told that it’s FOOD. In my opinion if it’s processed or does not look like the source that it came from (a steak does-hot dog does not, corn on the cob does-corn flakes does not, honey does-candy bars do not, etc.) it is NOT FOOD, it is PROFIT for someone at the LOSS of the eater.
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June 10th, 2009
11:03 pm
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Patrick
June 11th, 2009
7:55 am
I’m anticipating the moment they release the Samoas (also known as Caramel Dee-Lites) Blizzard.
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GeoffDawg
June 11th, 2009
8:52 am
People lover – your logic in that post escapes me.
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Rickster
June 11th, 2009
9:41 am
mmmmmMMMMMMmmmm blizzards!
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reservoirDAWG
June 11th, 2009
10:21 am
Well July can’t get here quick enough.
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RBSAtlanta
June 11th, 2009
2:08 pm
Bikini or Blizzard? Forget that – I’m eating my Blizzard naked with a drop cloth!
I could eat two boxes of Samoas … and chase them with a box of Tagalongs. Of course, only about six cookies come to a box of Samoas now but …
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Jennifer
June 11th, 2009
2:54 pm
This is great! Sounds delicious. I’m with you on the mojito.
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Katie
June 11th, 2009
3:09 pm
Wow – even the picture looks refreshing! I’m sure it’s wonderful!
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Howell MIller
June 11th, 2009
3:41 pm
I’m dying to try some of FLIP’s offerings but everytime I drive by there’s a mob of people – the place is uber-busy right now
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Atlanta Native
June 11th, 2009
9:24 pm
Excellent burgers and I love the sweet potato fries!
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Sandy Gibbons
June 11th, 2009
11:23 pm
I’ve had tea at Park 75 before–both hot and cold. This looks delicious! What a neat idea. Nothing worse than watered-down tea–water at the top, tea at the bottom.
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AtlantaGuy
June 12th, 2009
7:53 am
Richard Blais is talented in the kitchen but he never sits still enough for anyone to enjoy his culinary skills. I think his lack of loyalty is very disappointing to the restaurants that hire him to create their menus and lead their kitchens. I don’t think he has worked at a restaurant for more than a few months. He is more of a food celebrity than a chef these past couple of years.
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true drew
June 12th, 2009
8:51 am
Redfish on Memorial Drive has fried oreos on the dessert menu; they are to die for!
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Sue
June 12th, 2009
9:05 am
Fried pickles! YUM!
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Atlanta Native
June 12th, 2009
9:24 am
The egg rolls at Little Szechuan on Buford are deep fried heaven.
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RBSAtlanta
June 12th, 2009
10:15 am
d*mn – now I’ve a hankering for something fried –
Thanks for inducing my need-it-fried response so early on a Friday …
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reservoirDAWG
June 12th, 2009
11:01 am
Fried green tomatoes.
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marquis
June 12th, 2009
11:10 am
Again, I think the distinction needs to be made about Patio vs. Dining Room. I would never consider taking my dogs into a restaurant. Ever. But something like the L5P Brewhaus patio I always enjoy and I know the dog(s) do too. It’s all about being considerate. I have a 90 lb dog and believe me, the first thing on my mind is the other patrons (humans) comfort. If he starts whining to play, then I get the check and it’s over. No one wants to be THAT GUY. I think most dog owners have the same mindset. But like any other activity, it’s the few ‘bad apples’ that can ruin it for the rest of us.
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azcat225
June 12th, 2009
11:30 am
The deep fried pickles at Fickle Pickle, along with the remoulade sauce.
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Sue
June 12th, 2009
11:48 am
Fried cheesecake!
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Stan
June 12th, 2009
12:06 pm
I’d love to see a review of someplace really funny…like Taco Bell or Mc’ds…that’d have the potential to be great. Really almost ANY crappy chain would work.
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gbuthf
June 12th, 2009
12:43 pm
fried sweet breads
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bob
June 12th, 2009
12:43 pm
fried taters at walmart
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bob
June 12th, 2009
12:46 pm
with travel restrictions lifted, why not try the motherland version of cuban food
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Marsha Bond
June 12th, 2009
1:00 pm
*LOL*, Thanks Stan, I needed that laugh. *LOL*
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Tyree
June 12th, 2009
1:08 pm
Little Bangkok, 2225 Cheshire Bridge Rd. Atlanta, 30324. (404)315-1530. Spoon East Atlanta at 749 Moreland Ave. (404) 624- 5655.
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Kevin Mitchell
June 12th, 2009
1:18 pm
Check out Vingenzos in Woodstock. Better than any intown. Well worth the trip. Everything and I mean everything is made from scratch.
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RBSAtlanta
June 12th, 2009
1:51 pm
Meridith, how about any of the strip-mall ethnic joints up Buford Highway? You know, the places where those of us not fluent in *insert other language here* have to point at what we want?
Hey, I’ve got published experience … I’ll even lend you a hand.
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reservoirDAWG
June 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
Now that would be funny Stan.
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Atlanta Native
June 12th, 2009
3:16 pm
I agree on anything Buford Hwy and am willing to make suggestions. With the recent review of Gimza and other spots, I am happy about your coverage of the NE quadrant in general.
The fast food idea is great and would be funny. Especially comparing different locations of the same chain. For example an Arby’s near my office seems to have a weight minimum and a speed maximum involved in their hiring and over goops everything, even for Arby’s. (Which keeps me healthier and away from there, generally.)
One thing that would be a great service would be to find somewhere near the Fulton County Government Atlanta City Hall area complex that is worth eating at for lunch.
Anywhere in the city where you can find healthy, fresh, reasonably portioned lunches would also be great.
Also, other than Moroccan restaurants, Blue Nile and 10 Degrees South , I know nothing about African food and would like to learn.
Soups are often ignored in reviewing restaurants, but it would be interesting to know who has the best.
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Jim
June 12th, 2009
3:35 pm
Okay, so the place looks like a hole, but it’s generally considered by folks around Cumming to have great Chinese food. It’s Hong Kong Chinese in Tri County Plaze (next to Big Lots) on Atlanta Highway just off Exit 14 on 400.
Very small place, only a few tables (most folks do takeout) but the food is great. Tom is the Owner/Chef, and I always just stand there in awe(you can see the kitchen area) as he cooks my takeout, watching him work his magic on the wok.
He and his wife are a nice couple, and I’m glad to see them succeeding. My personal faves would be the Ginger scallion shrimp.
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Jim
June 12th, 2009
3:39 pm
I think Atlanta Native has hit on a great possibility. Ask people what their favorite lunch spot is for a working meal. That would be a nice list to have!
I’ll start. If you’re in Cumming, Sal’s pizza is good, and the Country Gourmet has great sandwiches. Both are on the square in Cumming.
My wife and I also go to the Ridge quite a bit (Turner Rd off exit 15 on 400). Best affordable steaks in town. It’s got a whole “worn out 70’s” thing going, but it’s not trashy, and we like it.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 12th, 2009
3:42 pm
Wow! Keep the ideas coming, guys — love these. Stan: you are on! Look for it next week in my Top Five on Friday. What a weekend I’ll have …
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Amber
June 12th, 2009
3:44 pm
Gimza Polish Restaurant
3435 Medlock Bridge Rd. Suite 209, Norcross, GA, 30092
Tel: 770-441-2268
Fax: 770-696-1799
http://gimzapolishrestaurant.com/default.aspx
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The Atlanta Native!!!!
June 12th, 2009
3:45 pm
I have a better idea. Why don’t you have a contest and select someone to dine with you at the restaurant of their choice. It has to be a place where you haven’t been before. If you select me, we’re going in the heart of the A-T-L!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 12th, 2009
3:49 pm
Amber, no offense, but I just reviewed Gimza. Read before you write. And Atlanta Native — I’ve been to the heart — and beyond!
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DX
June 12th, 2009
4:05 pm
The Lighthouse in Milner, Georgia. Great seafood, nowhere near the ocean !
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Atlanta Native
June 12th, 2009
4:09 pm
Thanks Jim! The only place people ever seem to agree with me is in the food section.
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Atlanta Native
June 12th, 2009
4:12 pm
P.S. I am different from “The Atlanta Native!!!” as I will never refer to my hometown as the A-T-L. I have never understood having an abbreviation that has more syllables and takes longer to say than the original word.
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DIPPER
June 12th, 2009
4:14 pm
Give a review of “PRIME” inside Lenox Mall
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Becky
June 12th, 2009
4:15 pm
Not sure if this place has already been reviewed, so forgive me if it has…Carver’s on Marietta St.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 12th, 2009
4:25 pm
Becky — love Carver’s, but yes — I’ve written about it many, many times. I love the sign on the wall that says “all men are idiots and I married their king.” No offense, guys.
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Becky
June 12th, 2009
4:35 pm
Thanks Meredith..I’m new to the food blog, so I’ve missed out on a lot of topics..Plus, I live on the west side of town and there aren’t that many places (other than chains) to be reviewed…
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 12th, 2009
4:43 pm
Anytime, Becky.
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Connie
June 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
My son-in-law never takes me to any of those exotic places on Buford Highway.do you thin I’ve b een neglected?
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Josh
June 12th, 2009
4:57 pm
River Room in Vinings…underrated
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brennan
June 12th, 2009
6:39 pm
I hope they know what a drunk he is.
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ihorizon
June 12th, 2009
8:32 pm
Connie, hi, sorry I can’t help but wonder if you would please clarify for me, why is it your “son-in-law” when it needs to be your daughter to treat you to dinner? Does he “owe” you for anything? Just curious.
And to Meredith, not to be harsh, but I’m not going to do your homework for you so drive pass anywhere I-285 and go thirty minutes outside ATL and you will find many places worth doing reviews. Just make sure to bring pen and paper or wifi.
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Jimmie
June 12th, 2009
9:51 pm
China Cooks off Roswell Road
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Morgan
June 13th, 2009
12:11 am
ihorizon: don’t be negative. Meridith actually took the time to ask us for our thoughts. Frankly, I don’t expect her to know every single restaurant in every single nook in every single area of metro Atlanta. And I welcome anyone who welcomes my input.
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M. Johnson
June 13th, 2009
12:50 am
Paschals Restaurant
http://www.paschals.com
180B Northside Dr SW
Atlanta, GA 30313
(404) 525-2023
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ihorizon
June 13th, 2009
5:52 am
Morgan you are right, however, I didn’t like the way the writer spouted “Read before you write” to Amber then left us feeling that we are having to do “research” to see if she wrote the reviews beforehand. I can understand it gets frustrating writing articles and hearing about the same place over and over, but there was no need for her to treat her readers like students to track down the articles beforehand. Besides, I had a hard time finding the reviews in the first place as the web sites links were vague and cluttered. It reminds me of going to get an item at the store only having to walk all over the aisles before seeking help to find it. Again, sorry if I was harsh.
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ihorizon
June 13th, 2009
6:06 am
Also, may I recommend going to Yelp.com search your city of choice under “Restaurants” listing. Readers will often comment on their experiences of places they ate. It is a neat forum. Thanks!
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Shines
June 14th, 2009
10:50 am
This place is great! The prices are very resonable and the food is wonderful. I went just this past weekend and had a wonderful time. The staff is extremely helpful when it comes to understanding the menu and what you’re ordering. I do believe I’ve found a great place to enjoy with my clients and family alike.The viva las vegas roll is a must have when you go and this is coming from a person who,up until now, only ordered california rolls and shrimp rolls. I know Atl is flooded with over priced, so so sushi bars, but RA is an exception and not the rule.
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Art
June 14th, 2009
12:09 pm
Here are a few suggestions from a 400 Suburbanite: 1. Spondivits – Hwy 9, Cumming, GA – Surprisingly good seafood served in a Jerry Springer-like atmosphere. It’s a hoot! 2. Tara Humata – Windward Parkway, Alpharetta – Mexican that’s more authentic than most and a vast assortment of tequilas. 3. Pearl Lian – Hwy 141, Johns Creek – Interesting decor… rocks brought from Asia, bamboo walls. Hard to believe they’re able to do both Chinese, Thai and Sushi well but they seem to pull it off.
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Not a Meridith fan
June 14th, 2009
3:16 pm
It has been obvious to me for a long time that Meridith has some sort of chip on her shoulder, and it’s evident in her writing. The quick retort, “…read before you write…” to one of the comments here is a great example.
Another example is her silly review of Nuevo Laredo Cantina. Thousands of Atlantans love it for what it is … full of cheese, full of tequila and full of fun. But her review of it had to denigrate those who love it and disregard the restaurant for its lack of authenticity. Sounded to me like someone with a chip on her shoulder out to prove something to someone. Prove what? To whom?
Where’d ya get the chip? And can you learn to keep it out of your writing??
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Stan
June 15th, 2009
10:23 am
Great to hear MFG…so would Krystal be considered a Tapas place?
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Amber
June 15th, 2009
10:24 am
Hi all. Me again. I just wanted to say I did search for Gimza in the “search this blog” area at the top right. Go ahead and try it – you will get no results. I did see she wrote it up recently however after searching the ajc.com option off the main page. Regardless, the snappy comment was unnecessary. Have a good day everyone and enjoy your week.
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Turd Ferguson
June 15th, 2009
12:23 pm
Perhaps a review of the fine cuisine being served at The Oasis Good Time Emporium is in order.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 15th, 2009
1:26 pm
Amber — sorry to come off snippy, it’s just that the review was in the paper just a week before you wrote that. The reviews are not posted on the blog unless I link to them — they are posted on accessatlanta under restaurants — hope that helps for the future. For the record — I really liked Gimza. As for a “chip,” — i just tell it like I eat it. NLC is a fun place, and I said so in the review; I just don’t think it’s very authentic, that’s all. As for asking you to “do my homework” — honestly, I was hoping this would get a great discussion going of places I might not have heard about — places, you, the reader, would like to see in the paper/online. And Turd: please, by all means enlighten us. I don’t even know where the Oasis Good Time Emporium is … I did do a review of the food at the Cheetah once, though.
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Tom
June 15th, 2009
2:56 pm
Great news there phone # is 404-636-4094 call them for more info can’t wait till they open.
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Darin
June 15th, 2009
3:10 pm
I’m interested to see what happens with the Trois-space redo, but I’ll also miss having a French option on the Peachtree corridor in Midtown near my home. Any recommendations for a substitute?
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Mac
June 15th, 2009
5:59 pm
Yeah, Darin, walk up to your girl and say, “Hey woman, rustle me up some french fries.”
Kidding.
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Art
June 15th, 2009
7:21 pm
I remember that Cheetah review… LOL! I’ve never been! I think your idea for suggestions is a great one…. For Atlanta to be as BIG a city as it thinks it is, I’m always amused at it’s tastes…. The Best of the Big A is more an advertisement for the chains than it is a guide to the out of the way gems… Maybe this will shed some light on of those gems… For one, I would love to know of a great seafood place… We’re less than 4 hours from the coast yet local fresh seafood is illusive unless of course you like Bonefish or the Atlanta Fish Market.
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BravesFan79
June 15th, 2009
11:38 pm
Who cares, the french suck anyways. A bunch of politically correct pansies.
Darin: I recommend taco bell. While the horse meat in your taco might not be as tasty…. it still delivers all the protein you need!
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FurmanAtlantan
June 15th, 2009
11:58 pm
If you want to take a trip up to Buckhead, try Anis Bistro. Always get the mussels for an appetizer and then order whatever you want because everything is well prepared, especially the veal.
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Drew
June 16th, 2009
2:48 am
Hopefully our country can make some progress repealing corn subsidies and other policies that favor toxic agri-megaconglomerates before the political pendulum swings back toward the right-wing corporatist nuts that, ahem, cooked up this greasy frankenfood system in the first place.
Maybe some street demonstrations would be fun: “What do we want? FRESH PRODUCE! When do we want it? NOW!”
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Joe Public
June 16th, 2009
6:02 am
How is this news??? Comrade Obama should tax this more. It is all about the masses now, not the bourgeoisie.
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shaggy
June 16th, 2009
6:36 am
Try Chef Fung She It’s place. He serves “fragrant meat” so fresh, it barks at you. Except last time I was there, I found a flea on me after I left.
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RBSAtlanta
June 16th, 2009
10:15 am
One neighborhood-y resto that I love is Bangkok Thyme, on Roswell Rd. in Sandy Springs. One of the freshest happy-hour sushi menus around (and I’m from the school that sushi should never be cheap).
And the Yakitori Jinbei out on Cobb Parkway … YUM … an old friend once described it as “chicken-on-a-stick” and the name stuck.
Out in Tucker I had a surprisingly tasty meal at Capri – I can’t really remember the road it was on, but it was a tiny little place in a strip-mall, owned/op’d by two natives of the Isle (of Capri – hence the name).
And is the James Joyce still around? Used to LOVE that place.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 16th, 2009
10:21 am
RBS — love these tips! Thanks!! And the James Joyce is still around …
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Fried Things: An Abattoir Addendum | Table Talk
June 16th, 2009
11:02 am
[...] My Top Five for Friday last week — some fave fried things — needs an addition to the menu: crispy fried ceci peas from newly opened Abattoir. [...]
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Laura
June 16th, 2009
11:42 am
One 41 on Highway 141 in Duluth.. Chef Marc rocks…Best Italian Food…
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Julie
June 16th, 2009
11:53 am
Artisan Foods Bakery & Cafe, 1169 Canton Street, Suite #100, Roswell, GA 30075. Phone: 770-998-1169. Open for breakfast and lunch – everything home-made (best beignets ever!).
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susan eder
June 16th, 2009
11:54 am
Phoenix bar and lounge
Just opened in the smyrna west village…
dont have a number but sure would love a review to see if its worth going…
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Victoria
June 16th, 2009
12:05 pm
Just opened, Noche in Vinings. I can’t seem to get a table at that damn place.
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Victoria
June 16th, 2009
12:08 pm
And whoever said Spondivits….the food at that place has actually KILLED people!!!
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RK
June 16th, 2009
12:29 pm
What happened to the simple restaurant search? I can’t find anything easily now — including my suggestion — Brooklyn Cafe in Sandy Springs.
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AB
June 16th, 2009
12:51 pm
For a down-home southern experience, go to Doug’s Place in Emerson, GA, just off of Hwy. 41. They don’t have a website, but you can find out more by going to http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3713378451.
We drive up from Marietta for the tasty fried chicken, squash casserole, fried green tomatoes, fried okra, and cornbread. Doug’s offers your choice of meat/veggies, and they also have a great breakfast.
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Bradley
June 16th, 2009
12:55 pm
Pizza Bar
1450 Veterans Memorial Hwy SE
Mableton 30126
Best NY style pizza in town and the baked wings are great!
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RBSAtlanta
June 16th, 2009
1:13 pm
@RK – I’ve always wondered about that Brooklyn Cafe (over near the old Target building, right?) myself. Never been in – what’s it like?
I pass it on my way to Trader Joe’s from Buckhead – actually, strike that – USED to pass it but since the TJ’s in Buckhead opened I haven’t been out to the Sandy Springs store!
I feel like a traitor …
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Biscuit
June 16th, 2009
1:15 pm
Trois sucked anyway and if you thought it was “sensational”, maybe you should check your senses considering your a food critic and the comments on your blog are as empty as trois was.
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zena
June 16th, 2009
1:24 pm
its this african place called madinas its awesome off memorial drive 285///
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Elizabeth
June 16th, 2009
1:32 pm
Villa Vino (new restaurant, next-door to Genki in Buckhead). Best new Italian and pizza place around! NY Style pizza, delicious pasta – interestingly, the same owner as Rio Grande across the street. Worth checking out for sure!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 16th, 2009
1:38 pm
Senses checked, “Biscuit.”
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Phar71
June 16th, 2009
2:09 pm
http://www.lapetitemaisonbistro.com/
I just from in town to Sandy Springs, pretty close to La Petite Maison, have not had a chance to try it yet, but have heard good things, let me know if any of you have been!
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q
June 16th, 2009
2:11 pm
CAPERS ON MAIN STREET
2756 SOUTH MAIN STREET
KENNESAW, GA 30144
678 594-7735
I eat out quite frequently in Atlanta, but I must say this is my favorite restaurant. The prices are reasonable as well. The Butterfinger Cheesecake is finger lickin’ good!!
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D-Gran
June 16th, 2009
2:16 pm
Del Rio Mexican Grill in Dacula.
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April
June 16th, 2009
2:16 pm
We have found the bistro to be a wonderful experience for out girls. It is just as you described – sophisticated, without being too grown up. The food has always been good and the atmosphere special.
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Marietta native
June 16th, 2009
2:18 pm
I would love to see Melody Lane on Canton Highway in Marietta reviewed. My wife and I love to eat there and it drives our kids crazy because we come home smelling of spices and they KNOW where we have been. It is owned by a Lebanese lady that disguises her wonderful food under the pretenses of Greek cuisine, such as wonderful gyros and the such. It is certainly worth the trip.
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anne
June 16th, 2009
2:24 pm
I have to agree. My daughter and I have visited and eaten at the American Girl Place in New York City and our experience here in Atlanta lived up to that. As an adult, I was happy with the variety in the entrees for both of us. It was a special treat for a mother-daughter outing.
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Garry
June 16th, 2009
2:34 pm
Little Bangkok on Cheshire Bridge Road and Wisteria in Inman Park
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RK
June 16th, 2009
2:43 pm
RBSAtlanta: I’ve eaten there a couple times, most recently last week (wife gets her hair done there). The in-house smoked salmon app is fantastic. The wine list is very good (not too long, but with good price point, and pours). The menu changes from time to time, and this last time I noticed that they have some cheaper entree items in case you don’t want to break the bank. That said, your average entree is still probably only 20-23. Energetic and engaged owner, too. It was absolutely packed this last Friday night, which is an encouraging sign. IMO good bang for the buck.
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Food Fan
June 16th, 2009
2:45 pm
RBS, the food at Brooklyn Cafe is great, always consistent and good. Grilled artichoke is great, everything on the menu is good, but I usually go with whatever the special is. It’s been there for about 10-15 years now – which is quite a feat since I remember the space being a revolving door for at least 10 changing restaurants before this one actually stuck.
Very comfortable neighborhood atmosphere, great place for a bite to eat before a movie or show. The staff is friendly – and I grew up a few doors down from their (wonderful) somellier behind the bar, Takka Holt, who gives great, reasonably-priced reccomendations to suit whatever you’re having. And they always have a huge jar of free ripe mixed olives sitting at the bar for you to have with your wine.
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RK
June 16th, 2009
2:49 pm
Phar: just tried it this weekend (ironically, just after having the aforementioned app and wine at Brooklyn Cafe, because we’ve been wanting to try this other one, too). If it is going to rain, don’t sit outside — the awning can’t handle it. Anyway, the food and service was good, although I felt my lamb was a bit too sinewy for the price ($30). It was accompanied by some excellently-stewed white beans, a typical French salad, and a not-so-fresh polenta cake. A very short French wine list, but they were good, and not pricey. Desserts, however, were fantastic. The profiteroles were spot on, and there were 5 (not the usual 3). My chocolate-pear tart was something to return for — the almond (extract?) in the crust really came through for some extra tastiness. Well-presented, too.
Older crowd at LPM than BC. It is worth a shot, especially if you are wanting authentic French food, but I felt like I got more bang for the buck at BC. However, I’ve only been to LPM that one time.
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June 16th, 2009
3:12 pm
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Jen
June 16th, 2009
3:13 pm
Gumbeaux’s Cajun Cafe in Douglasville is great!! I’ve never been to New Orleans, but I hear that thier food @ Gumbeauxs is very authentic. The portions are huge & the food and service is excellent!! http://www.gumbeauxs.com
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Viri
June 16th, 2009
3:27 pm
I would like to second Jen’s recommendation of Gumbeaux’s in Douglasville. I have never been to New Orleans either, but New Orleans natives have praised the place. I’d also be curious to know what Meredith thinks of some of the restaurants even further west, in Carrollton. Plates, Little Hawaiian, Alley Cat, Corner Cafe, et cetera. I’m happy to drive into Atlanta but it’d be nice to get more reviews for places on this side of town.
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True atlantan
June 16th, 2009
3:29 pm
Victoria-back off Spondivits. One person died from a raw oyster and that was like 3 years ago. The person also had a “compromised immune system” to begin with. There’s a warning on the menu…raw oysters are a RISK..especially in land-locked Atlanta.
As for seafood, AJ’s in East Cobb is good…its cheap and laid back.
Meredith, I would love to know if you know of a place to BUY good seafood. Like a fish market that has really fresh stuff??
I would love to see you review Vinings Inn since it changed ownership/chefs…and you’ve probably reviewed it before but…Bluepoint? I think it is horrible…don’t see what all the hype is about.
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RCS
June 16th, 2009
3:30 pm
RBS – If you’re talking Capri Italian/American Cafe, it is good. It is located, as you said, in a small strip shop at 3210 Tucker Norcross Rd Tucker, GA 30084.
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Phar71
June 16th, 2009
3:48 pm
RK sounds like a pretty good review, I will check it out, and maybe stay away from the Lamb.
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Johnny Fontane
June 16th, 2009
4:01 pm
Gumbeaux’s in Douglasville is some of the best cajun food that I have had in or out of Louisiana. The Oasis is located at P’tree Ind and Tilly Mill Rd just outside of 285, so I am told.
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tampa
June 16th, 2009
4:06 pm
You must try Cuban Cafe in Jonesboro. One of the best Cuban sandwiches ever! The nicest staff as well. Looks like a hole-in-the-wall from the outside, but so quaint and charming inside. They are open only on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, from 11:00 a.m. until 9:00 p.m. The address is 729 N. Main Street, Jonesboro, GA. YUM!
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EzzyE
June 16th, 2009
4:06 pm
Ritters at Lower Roswell and Johnson Ferry. Great Local Grub with Fresh food and awesome takes on favorites. They Have Steaks, Seafood, and a cozy enviroment.
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RBSAtlanta
June 16th, 2009
4:25 pm
@RK and Food Fan – thanks! I’ll definitely give it a go sometime soon.
@RCS – yep, that’s it. Service was (as I remember it) a bit sluggish but the simple pastas were t-a-s-t-y.
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Dan
June 16th, 2009
4:41 pm
BB’s Bagels 770 McFarland pkwy 12b off of 400 Alpharetta.Hand rolled N.Y.C. style bagels.Full breakfast and lunch.Simply the best.
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Lemanda
June 16th, 2009
5:00 pm
Landons, the food is delicious, the service is great and they have a cozy patio area for dining and TVs for viewing sporting events etc.
3752 Cascade Road Suite 100
Atlanta, Ga 30331
404.472.2424
Fax: 404.472.2975 http://www.landonsrestaurant.com
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Joe
June 16th, 2009
5:23 pm
I second BB’s Diner in Alpharetta….they have the only hand rolled, water boiled bagels in the South….the true NY style bagel which once everyone has experienced, will make the drive. It is on McFarland Road off Highway 9 or Georgia 400….on the East bound lane. Awesome!
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Darrell Huffman
June 16th, 2009
5:39 pm
Well, I am taking my boys to Hooters for a memorable experience they won’t forget…
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Mark
June 16th, 2009
5:44 pm
I love the Caribbean Fiesta restaurants in Alpharetta and Norcross. Great food! I am getting hungry now thinking about a plate of beans and rice with jerk or curry chicken
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Tina
June 16th, 2009
6:20 pm
I’d like to see a review of Zapata on the historic square in Norcross. It’s Mexican food, but not your typical burritos and nachos. Very different.
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MissingATL
June 16th, 2009
8:18 pm
Las Palmeras, on 5th St near Piedmont Park. It’s a little hard to find tucked in between the residential area but the food is great. Especially the fried yucca and the vegetarian sampler dish. The maduros are excellent as well and the patio has a great atmosphere. You feel like you found a secret once you get there.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 17th, 2009
6:19 am
Sounds like a good idea, Darrell.
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wifecallsmesparky
June 17th, 2009
12:52 pm
Pig brains scrambled with eggs! If I had not been eating them since I was in diapers, I probably wouldn’t try it now. Very tasty!
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wifecallsmesparky
June 17th, 2009
12:55 pm
Pickled eggs and a glass of butter milk.
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Michelvis
June 17th, 2009
1:47 pm
Clearly you’re a less than helpful bunch (and angry!) — as far as french restaurants in Midtown, you should try Atmoshphere on Piedmont by Ansley Park. It’s really delish.
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marquis
June 17th, 2009
2:40 pm
second on Anis. tis a fun little place. nice patio on a quiet (well, i guess they’re all quiet now) buckhead street.
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Jason Greene
June 17th, 2009
5:32 pm
Tois! LOL! I agree w/Meridith on the Fried Chicken at JCT Kitchen. Had my birthday dinner there last week. Yum-O! Coq-Au-Vin, never!
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Deb
June 17th, 2009
6:12 pm
What a wonderful way to spend a Thursday evening!!! Will definitely be there this summer!
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Laurie
June 17th, 2009
10:34 pm
How about a little neat place called Northlake Thai…I think reviewed a while ago, but great service, food and ambiance. Whenever we go in to dine, we walk out smiling!
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Katherine Strate
June 17th, 2009
10:41 pm
Oh MAN! My mom (52), sister (19) and I (22) went to the American Girl Place in Chicago over New Years. Yes, we brought our dolls, too. Once an American Girl, always an American Girl. We were thrilled at the chance to eat in the cafe, and (while our dolls were getting their hair done…bear with me here) we had the special treat of having all the wonderful delights in the cafe. I mean, they are so good! Since it was winter, they were offering a great salad with sunflower seeds and pumpkin bread croutons. All the little desserts were good, too! It was such a great time. Rest assured that all that money you’ve spent on clothes and dolls will eventually be reused one day.
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hines
June 18th, 2009
9:58 am
You should try Le Petite Maison on Roswell Rd in Sandy Springs.
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Darin
June 18th, 2009
10:32 am
Ahh, I keep forgetting about Anis. I’ll have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip. I’ve been to Atmosphere before and had some very good mussels.
Still, I hope someone will open a French place in my ‘hood near the High Museum area again some day.
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Katherine Strate
June 18th, 2009
1:54 pm
That’s awesome! Too bad I’m going home to Tennessee for Father’s Day. I wonder if they’re serving shakes up there.
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The Truth
June 18th, 2009
3:13 pm
What about divorced Dad’s who will not have thier children with them until Sunday?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 18th, 2009
3:30 pm
Good ?? Truth. Try calling the corporate office at Chick-fil-A and see what they say: 404-765-8000, and happy Father’s Day
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jenny
June 18th, 2009
5:05 pm
I got my Dad a plant that Moves when you Tickle It or shake it
You can grow your own TickleMe Plant in the TickleMe Plant Greenhouse I found at
http://www.ticklemeplant.com
The leaves instantly close and even the branches droop when Tickled!
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Nice trick
June 18th, 2009
5:35 pm
Good way to net the dead-beat dad who owes $$$$ for unpaid child support.
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WhoCares
June 18th, 2009
5:47 pm
“What about divorced Dad’s who will not have thier children with them until Sunday?”
Unbelievable, You finally got rid of the B!#@H and you’re gonna whine about missing out on a free Milk Shake?
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Mort Merkel
June 19th, 2009
10:05 am
I only seem to get a craving for Chick-Fil-A on Sundays. Does this mean I’m the anti-Christ.
Got tired of choosing between Varsity rings and fries, so I dropped one chili dog from my order and get both. Yes, I love McDonald’s fries, but I think Varsity has them beat.
Would love to try Chipolte, but living in north Georgia and rarely visiting Atlanta, I have to get my Varsity fix, or my Three Dollar Cafe wing fix in on those occasions.
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Sugar
June 19th, 2009
12:19 pm
I don’t really care for fast food. Except maybe Zaxby’s.
Chick Fil A is too expensive for a piece of chicken and a pickle.
McDonalds is just plain gross……..same with Wendy’s.. NASTY.
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Emjay
June 19th, 2009
12:45 pm
“Of course, it’s hard to find someone who doesn’t love the largest drive-in in the world’s onion rings, hot dogs (I like mine with the V’s chili and mustard) and a big Frosted Orange shake”
Well… you’ve found one. I do not like the Varsity. I will take a chili dog from Zesto ANY DAY over the Varsity.
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Becky
June 19th, 2009
12:50 pm
I have almost the same list, except that I’ve never been to Chipoltes..As for the fries at McDonalds, you can’t get any better then when they come right out of the fryer..I could eat tons of them like that..
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Leghound
June 19th, 2009
12:51 pm
Go to the varsity at town center conglomerate,mall whatever they call that city
sized place.The food is less greasy,staff is friendly.All in all a good fast food bargain.
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Leghound
June 19th, 2009
12:54 pm
If you really want a good experience visit any Red Robin.Over priced,arrogant and mediocre food.Any place after that will rate 5 stars.
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donkey200
June 19th, 2009
12:57 pm
Mary, one of the bartenders at Maggie’s in Toco Hills, has come up with a bacon infused vodka. I tried a sip – bacony. Would go great in a bloody mary!
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JJ
June 19th, 2009
12:58 pm
Fast food is neither fast nor Food…..
I’ll take a homemade ham and cheese sandwich over fast food any day!!! I hate fast food…..
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Takhomasak
June 19th, 2009
1:00 pm
Steak-n-Shake without a doubt !!
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RBSAtlanta
June 19th, 2009
1:31 pm
+1 for McDonald’s french fries – like most people I try to stay away from fast food but every once in a while nothing soothes my soul more than McDonald’s french fries.
I’ve always felt that there’s “eating for your health” and then “eating for your soul” … fast food has its place, in moderation, as does eating for the soul.
Oh, and Viva La Chick-Fil-A Chicken Sandwich!
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Linda
June 19th, 2009
1:57 pm
Love Five Guys for their burgers and fries, also Hardee’s does a good burger
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Jennifer
June 19th, 2009
2:09 pm
Count me among those who despise the Varsity. All grease, no taste. I’m surprised there’s no love here for Zesto, which makes fantastic ice cream concoctions as well as good burgers and chicken fingers.
I try to avoid fast food, but I am a loyal Chick-fil-a customer. Everything on their menu is fresh and tasty. Even though I’m not a church-goer myself, I have a lot of respect for a company that puts principles above the bottom line.
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Susan
June 19th, 2009
2:20 pm
Chic Fil -A’s southwestern salad–a whole piece of grilled chicken breast-cut in strips atop lots of veggies with a little bit of corn, black beans and packaged toppings and the balsamic dressing. All for around 5 bucks.
Very filling and healthy fast food.
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Katherine Strate
June 19th, 2009
2:31 pm
Interesting! I wonder how you’d do that and keep with health code standards. I’m assuming you’d have to cook the bacon and then plop it in there. How much bacon per liter of vodka? How salty? That is such a unique concept. I have enjoyed herb-infused vodkas in Athens at Farm 255 and the 5&10, but I haven’t heard of this. It might be fun to try! Good convo topic.
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YEllenwood
June 19th, 2009
2:52 pm
Zestos for ice cream, Steak n Shake for burgers, Zaxby’s for chicken, Chick Filet for Lemonade, Einsteins for bagels of any kind, Publix for subs, Sonics for slushes and McDonalds only when nothing else is available. Hummm … maybe it’s time for me to start eating from home more often.
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Stan
June 19th, 2009
3:50 pm
I saw a cocktail on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives that was made using the rendered fat from bacon. I think it was mixed with wiskey. Sounded…intresting
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Stan
June 19th, 2009
3:55 pm
Funny bit is I try to avoid fast food if at all possible. I’ll do Zaxby’s and Chik-fil-a. Taco Bell once in a rare while and Wendy’s if I must…I go to McDonalds maybe 1 in 2-3 years. Varsity is great…the 1 time in 2-3 years I get to go there.
Thanks MFG…though I must admit I made the suggestion with a tounge in cheek review in mind.
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AJ
June 19th, 2009
6:11 pm
LOL @ Who Cares
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Michael
June 19th, 2009
8:31 pm
Anyone else think it’s disgraceful that Chic-Fil-A, which is hands down the best fast food restaurant, has such godawful fries? Come on Mr. Truett, replace those awful waffle fries with the real thing.
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20 years in Gwinnett
June 19th, 2009
8:54 pm
Best onion rings–>SONIC. When you bite into them you don’t drag the whole onion out, and I LOVE the little bit of sugar in the batter.
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Nicky
June 19th, 2009
9:38 pm
I’ve lived in Atlanta 18 years and cannot abide either the Varsity or Chick-fil-a. Awful fries and soggy chicken at Chick-fil-a and all grease and no taste at Varsity. I’ll take the spicy chicken at Popeye’s any day and their cajun rice is a fantastic side. I do agree that the fries at McD’s can’t be beat. Haven’t tried Chipolte as there are none near us but the dish you describe sounds awful – perhaps they have something else. Church’s chicken is as bad as KFC.
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Suzanne
June 19th, 2009
9:50 pm
For fresh speedy fast food, check out Downtown Gourmet at 123 Peachtree Street NE, near Congressman John Lewis’ office. It’s a family operation, with great salads and schwarma (gyros). I’ve been there several times, and everything’s been fresh and delicious.
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Kevin
June 20th, 2009
10:07 am
Trois in Midtown has a great cocktail called (IIRC) “Bacon & Waffles”. It based on the Old-Fashioned, starts with bacon-infused bourbon, maple syrup, and Cointreau to taste, served in a rocks glass and garnished with orange. Breakfast of Champions!
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Liz Buddenhagen
June 20th, 2009
11:02 am
L’Thai in Tucker on Lawrenceville Hwy. was very no salt friendly and the food, service and ambience were great.
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Bob Ichter
June 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
How can you not mention Taqueria del sol…maybe you don’t consider it fast food? Which I guess I understand, but the service is fast…many times I’m in and out in 15 minutes…and the place ROCKS !!!! as far as traditional fast food goes, I LOVE chick filet and hate the the bible thumping, let’s be closed on Sundays attitude [ but must admit, that's one superstitious fool, who walks the walk, by giving up 1/7 of possible sales to honor his imaginary god ion the sky ]
The bbq sauce there is amazing on a chick filet sandwich….
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dawgdan
June 20th, 2009
6:14 pm
I’ll throw out a vote for Atlanta’s newcomer, El Pollo Loco. The salsa is always fresh, the chicken is tasty, and it feels a bit healthier than the typical greasebag fast food meal. Love their Burrito Pollo.
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jimmy
June 21st, 2009
9:19 am
the hash house a go go in San Diego has a BLT bloody mary, with a stick of bacon in it, and crushed bacon around the rim. Amazing.
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sig
June 21st, 2009
9:55 am
bacon vodka is good, bacon bourbon is better…
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Mark
June 21st, 2009
1:57 pm
How about “swine wine”?
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youknow
June 21st, 2009
7:26 pm
Leon’s has a Benton’s infused bourbon. It’s pretty much perfect.
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FCM
June 21st, 2009
8:42 pm
UGH!
Like many of the others…WTH?????
I guess food should not be ‘reviewed’ because obviously what one person enjoys (finds to be great) others are not necessarily of the same opinion. Yes, I know you spent years doing the culinary thing (degree chef and waitperson)….still it is just a single person’s opinion.
Best meal: Moe’s — particularly the Homewrecker.
Best dish: Zaxby’s — Toungetorched finger plate. The onion peels are darn good too.
Best Fries: Now that everyone is ZTF the fries are all ugh! ugh! ugh! Probably Checkers if I have to pick one — but I would rather have a Checker’s fried pie.
Best Sandwich: I will agree with you on Chick fil A for chicken. However, Steak n Shake for a burger is a very close match.
Best side: KFC coleslaw.
Honorable mention for the once a year fast junk food fix: Taco Bell Nacho Bell Grande.
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Katharine
June 22nd, 2009
10:40 am
Darin, I second Hines’ suggestion about La Petite Maison. I’ve eaten there twice, and both meals have been good. I haven’t yet tried FAB or Au Pied de Cochon, but the former, at least, might be a little closer to you.
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Beth Bond
June 22nd, 2009
12:34 pm
You can get half price tickets on SoutheastGreen.com. Just visit the website and click on the ticket on the top of the website.
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glynn
June 22nd, 2009
5:46 pm
He’s more into photo ops & doing whatever he can, with the exception of cooking, to keep his name in the press. It’s so sad that he thinks he can now play in the big leagues with all the major players just because he was on Top Chef. We all know that his track record proves otherwise. He’s proven he’s still a minor leaguer because he can’t run a resturant unless someone else is holding very tight reigns. His 15 minutes has to be almost over.
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Becky
June 23rd, 2009
11:35 am
dawgfan, tried El Pollo Loco one time..I will never go back there..Even the two 6 year olds said it was horrible..We wound up throwing our food in the trash and going somewhere else to eat..
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Becky
June 23rd, 2009
11:37 am
OOPS..Sorry about the name dawgdan..
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reservoirDAWG
June 23rd, 2009
4:47 pm
Becky, What did you order at Pollo Loco?
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JimC
June 23rd, 2009
7:55 pm
I have to confess I’m a Krystal addict. Those little burgers… what can I say?
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yvette
June 23rd, 2009
8:10 pm
The VARSITY is absolutely disgusting. I have never had food that bad in my life. Ate there once, NEVER AGAIN. I’ve never eaten at the Chipotle, but went to their website and the food looks pretty good. I’d give it a try. McDonald’s does have to BEST FRIES. I love Chick Fila chicken salad sandwich w/ waffle fries and lemonade (they have the best lemonade). The only thing I eat at Church’s is their bombers, they are the best, their chicken is terrible. I do wish they had a White Castle here, they are much better than Krystals.
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yvette
June 23rd, 2009
8:12 pm
OH Yes Jennifer, Zesto’s is GREAT.
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Thrash
June 23rd, 2009
8:14 pm
I agree… the Varsity is nasty disgusting food. May have been good “back in the day” but today, it’s not worth the trouble. Fries are greasy, wimpy limp soggy messes. Chili dogs are nothing to crow about either. As far as their onion rings… FAIL… breaded onion rings are NOT the way to make onion rings, batter dipped or nothing.
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Valstake
June 23rd, 2009
8:26 pm
Lay off Chic-fil-A not opening on Sunday! It’s a private business! I suppose you have a problem with Jewish establishments that close on their Sabboth also, right? The way some of you people think, why don’t you demand that every restaurant stay open 24-7?
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supsalemgr
June 23rd, 2009
8:36 pm
The posters who hate the The Varsity are obviously tranplants. I grew up on “chilli dogs” and lived on them for four years in Athens. The “cruisin” at the “V” in the late 50’s and early 60’s was somrhting to behold on Friday and Saturday nights.
The food is greasy and good! I am still kicking at 66.
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ben
June 23rd, 2009
9:24 pm
Viva the Varsity! I go get a lube job once a year.
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L.A.POW
June 23rd, 2009
9:33 pm
Ya’ll are makin me homesick. Stuck in L.A. since 1991. I’d kill for a Varsity chilidog. Closest Chik-Fil-A is an hour away. Help!
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yvette
June 23rd, 2009
10:32 pm
You people are crazy eating food from the VARSITY, the burgers are no bigger than a quarter, you can squeeze the onion rings between your fingers and grease drips out, and the chili for the chili dogs, looks like something eaten in a third world county. You can keep that…YUCK.
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Yonah Dawg
June 23rd, 2009
11:42 pm
My favorite fast food fries: 1)Chick-fil-a waffle fries 2) Checkers 3) McDonald’s. As for Chick-fil-a closing on Sundays, I think it is so refreshing to see a national chain observe an old-fashioned (but still appropriate) tradition. I used to work there during college; it was so nice to be off every Sunday
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yvette
June 23rd, 2009
11:54 pm
oops, I meant to country instead of county.
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DJ
June 23rd, 2009
11:55 pm
Chick fil A Just opened in my area.(Inland Empire) southern
California. Loved the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich with Buffalo sauce. Very hot but so, so good!! A little annoyed that they won’t put the sauce on the sandwich. But well worth the hassle.
I’m not familiar with most of the fast food previously discussed, but it all sounds yummy. Funny how one person’s feast is yuk to somebody else. . .
Those Varsity chili dogs sound great to me. Is the ‘In-N-Out
‘ chain in states other than Ca.? If not
you’re missing a great cheese burger. The Double/Double can’t be beat
Thanks for listening
DJ
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DJ
June 23rd, 2009
11:56 pm
Chick fil A Just opened in my area.(Inland Empire) southern
California. Loved the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich with Buffalo sauce. Very hot but so, so good!! A little annoyed that they won’t put the sauce on the sandwich. But well worth the hassle.
I’m not familiar with most of the fast food previously discussed, but it all sounds yummy. Funny how one person’s feast is yuck to somebody else. . .
Those Varsity chili dogs sound great to me. Is the ‘In-N-Out
‘ chain in states other than Ca.? If not
you’re missing a great cheese burger. The Double/Double can’t be beat
Thanks for listening
DJ
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DJ
June 24th, 2009
12:24 am
Becky
Shocked at your comments on El Polio Loco. Maybe a bad day or location.
I have always had consistantly delicious chicken and sides.
Chicken marinated then grilled to perfection, tasty cole slaw
and soft warm tortillas. Yum
DJ
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wardenerd
June 24th, 2009
3:30 am
Best fries are either zaxby’s or zesto both are ripple cut and are fairly thick and tasty. Mackyd’s is ok If you want french fries with your chick-fil-a go to ther original hapeville they have ff and you can not get waffle fries there. Home wrecker at moe’s is the best fast burrito food although its a little pricey. best cheap fast food? whatevers on sale at checkers.
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Bubba
June 24th, 2009
7:00 am
Maybe it’s not really fast food, but Steak & Shake is hard to beat for burgers.
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Scott
June 24th, 2009
7:16 am
nobody mentioned Five Guys…the best burger and fries combo in Atlanta. Especially the Frieds, the best
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Scott
June 24th, 2009
7:18 am
oops fries, but they are fried
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Rush
June 24th, 2009
7:19 am
Um, Thrash, what the heck are you talking about? The V’s onion rings are batter-dipped, not breaded.
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Scott
June 24th, 2009
7:22 am
LA POW- Stuck in Atlanta, need a In and Out burger
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Just An Observer
June 24th, 2009
7:34 am
The Varsity??? C’mon, you’re kidding me, right? Granted the place is an Atlanta icon, but the food? It is AWFUL!!! Agreat place to go if you need your system flushed.
Best Burgers & Fries – Five Guys fixed your way, quickly, great quality
Best Onion Rings – Sonic Sorry, they don’t come with an extra quart of oil for your beater.
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Andrea
June 24th, 2009
7:48 am
My favorite fast food has to be Chipotle. I LOVE this place. The burrito bowl rocks!
Not a lover of McD’s but I do love Chick-fil-A. I tried the Varsity once and that one time was enough for me. I can’t say I have ever had any desire to go back. But, it is an Atlanta icon, so to fulfill your good citizenship requirements, you have to eat there at least once.
Haven’t tried El Polo Loco but I will try it soon.
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Hotlanta native
June 24th, 2009
8:06 am
Not everybody likes the Varsity, not even every Atlanta native likes it, but if you grew up on it like I did, you’d love it. Not just the food either, but the whole Varsity experience as a teenager with a muscle car, cruising on Friday and Saturday night. I guess it’s what you grow up with. People from Cincinnati love their “chili”, I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for it. Baltimorons crave crabs, I can take them or leave them, don’t see the attraction. Yes, the Varsity is greasy, but it’s the best around. And for Moe’s? How can anyone eat that stuff? If you want Mexican food, go to a Mexican restaurant. Much cheaper and MUCH better.
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Robert
June 24th, 2009
8:17 am
For the above person who suggested Moe’s. You are a fool. Moe’s has by far the worst burrito of all burrito establishments. Willie’s started in Atlanta, and dominates both Chipotle and Moe’s. Q-Doba and Barberitos are good as well, but I don’t know if they have them in ATL.
Chick-Fil-A is incredible, especially for breakfast.
Bojangles cajun chicken biscuits (served all day) are incredibly good and cheap.
Steak-N-Shake is great.
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Robert
June 24th, 2009
8:18 am
Five Guys has to be the most overrated burger place ever. I would give it a 5.6/10.
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JATL
June 24th, 2009
8:18 am
The first mall Chick-fil-A opened at Greenbriar in 67, but the true first Chick-fil-A restaurant was Truett’s Dwarf House in Hapeville.
Scott -there’s an IN and Out Burger at the corner of Piedmont and Sidney Marcus.
I can’t believe someone posted that a chick-fil-a was too expensive for a chicken sandwich! Please! It’s the best chicken sandwich in the world! I wish it was open on Sunday too, but as another said, it’s a private business and I don’t think they’re hurting financially. I used to work there in high school, and it was great to have every Sunday off.
KRYSTAL -when I have a true “nasty” fast food craving -that’s where it’s at! YUM-their fries suck, but a sackful of cheese Krystals is a wonderful thing.
Church’s? Really? POPEYE’S -that’s where the good ff fried chicken lives, and I still get a jones now and then for Kentucky Fried (have always hated the KFC branding).
Five Guys ROCKS. Those are some tasty burgers!
Varsity is best as a nostalgia joint. I don’t hate their food -it’s good grease -but it’s not better than a lot of FF in Atlanta these days.
You can get so much yummy variety AND ice cream at Zesto -especially their milkshakes!
Eager to try El Pollo Loco.
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JATL
June 24th, 2009
8:20 am
Robert -there’s a Qdoba at the Whole Foods/Borders/Home Depot center on Ponce across from City Hall East. I think I’ve seen others around town too -not many though.
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Becky
June 24th, 2009
8:25 am
reservoirDAWG, tried the tacos and a burrito..I was at the location in Hiram..The entire experience was not worth going back..The people were not friendly, the place was dirty and the food was bad..Maybe I’l try the one on Thorntom Rd., it might be better…
As for the Varsity, others may be right, it’s a southern thing that takes getting used to..
Lay off of Chick-fil-A for being closed on Sunday..We as a nation, don’t take enough time to relax and anjoy the good things that we have..
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Robert
June 24th, 2009
8:28 am
Krystal is delicious. Hard to beat a sackful. Yall are making me want to try El Pollo Loco, I just hate the commercials.
DID SOMEONE SAY THERE IS AN IN-N-OUT BURGER IN ATL?
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mugglemikki
June 24th, 2009
8:33 am
I wish there was a White Castles down here…Krystal’s is a pale imitation.
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Robert
June 24th, 2009
8:35 am
what are you talking about mugglemikki! Krystal dominates White Castle! Not even close.
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mugglemikki
June 24th, 2009
8:36 am
Oh please, there is no comparision, White Castles all the way!
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Grahzny Bratchny
June 24th, 2009
8:45 am
Zaxby’s fan calling Chick-Fil-A expensive – you’re nuts. Zaxby’s bends you over for every sauce, I am surprised Vaseline is not one of them and they don’t serve milk last time I checked.
If it weren’t for Chick-Fil-A setting the standard McDonnald’s would still rule the roost, but they have made McDonalds better.
I agree on the five guys combo being the best. Steak and Shake next. That is with a tasting of the Varsity and Fatburger in the past week.
Chipotle’s pork is the best thing going and their rice with the cilantro in it has made me tolerate cilantro better.
I do love McDonalds and 5 guys fries and varsity fries have been really good lately too. Chick-Fila may not be the best, but they are consistently good as are Krystals. You can’t say that about Wendy’s or Burger King.
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Cathy
June 24th, 2009
9:02 am
I was so bummed to find out that chick fila puts msg in their food. I love the food but hate msg.
CHICK FILA we don’t need MSG. Its great without it.
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Becky
June 24th, 2009
9:13 am
Robert, how can you call someone a fool for liking Moe’s, then say that Chick-fil-A is incredible for breakfast..Their biscuits are horrible..They are doughy and sweet..I thought that Willie’s and Moe’s were started by the same people and later split..Does anyone know if thats true or not?
I’m with the poster that said Five Guys is overrated..US Cafe in Smyrna is much better..Can’t wait to try In and Out Burgers..
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William
June 24th, 2009
9:18 am
Have you ever sat at a fast food drive thru and watch what the employees do? Watch where and what they do with their hands…
You may never eat at one again. I guess this could be said about most restaurants. Additionally, what is up with McD, Wendy’s, and most other burger joints making the beef patty hours ahead and sitting them in either water or hot oil under a heat lamp, what happened to fresh cooked? You can never get a burger the way it is advertised. And Burger King, and I do believe McDonalds, whats up with microwaving before it goes out the drive thru window? Do you know what that does to food? A microwaved bun is yuck..
Five Guys and any other place that still cooks to order will always be better than the other guys.
Varsity has gone up on their prices in the last year or so, it now pays to just go to a Five Guys or Steak and Shake for better quality, nearly priced food.
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JATL
June 24th, 2009
10:29 am
I may have made a mistake -it may be a FatBurger at the corner of Sidney Marcus and Piedmont. I get those two mixed up all the time. Check before you go to avoid major disappointment!
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Scott
June 24th, 2009
1:26 pm
DBA barbeque in Va-Hi serves a bacon infused bourbon Manhattan that is quite good; 3rd one is even better.
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reservoirDAWG
June 24th, 2009
3:03 pm
Becky,
Try the chicken. I wasn’t all that impressed with the burrito I had either.
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stew
June 24th, 2009
7:44 pm
Is there a tree hugger seminar?
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DJ
June 24th, 2009
9:59 pm
Becky
Now I get your comments on El Pollo Loco. They used to serve chicken exclusively. They now try to compete on too many products. Many are mediocre at best. Stick with the chicken. Go to your favorite Mex restsurant for burritos and tacos.
DJ
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DJ
June 24th, 2009
10:32 pm
Supsalemgr
Enjoyed your reminesing about Varsity. I am close to your
age and remember fondly a local (So Calif.) high school
hangout, ‘ Der Wienerschnitzel’. Cold fall and winter nights
after the game we could find most of our friends at the
‘Schnitz’ crusin, sharing laughs, and enjoying spicy chili cheese dogs
(hold the onions of course if you were on a date!!) My then boyfriend, now husband of 39
yrs rarely missed a Fri night. Great memories.
DJ
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DJ
June 24th, 2009
10:35 pm
Supsalemgr
Enjoyed your reminiscing about Varsity. I am close to your
age and remember fondly a local (So Calif.) high school
hangout, ‘ Der Wienerschnitzel’. Cold fall and winter nights
after the game we could find most of our friends at the
‘Schnitz’ crusin, sharing laughs, and enjoying spicy chili cheese dogs
(hold the onions of course if you were on a date!!) My then boyfriend, now husband of 39
yrs rarely missed a Fri night. Great memories.
DJ
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Becky
June 25th, 2009
3:19 pm
DJ, I’ll do that…The reason that I even tried the place is because I make it a point when the grandkids are over to let them pick out somewhere new..I want them to be able to go anywhere and know how to behave while we are out to dinner…
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BShepC
June 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
I LOVE the Varsity…so good and such a great slice of ATL history! This isn’t gourmet, just good fried good and the chili dogs are the best. I always ask my husband to take me there for valentines, it has turned into a family tradition. Willies will always beat Moe’s butt…their pork is soooooo good. i am suprised no one has mentioned Miss Anne of Anne’s Snack shack on memorial drive. THE BEST BURGER EVER.
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DIPPER
June 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
The old Zesto’s was the bomb… can’t forget the Onion Rings at Dairy Queen… Krystals has good fries only when they are hot… The Varsity is really good but since the Olympics came the price continues to go up. Zaxby is good but way to pricey along with Chick fi la.
To sum it up… A pack of hotdogs (beef) on sale runs $2.50 plus buns $1, nice chopped onions $.50 and bag of Kroger fries $1.50 with Plus card, can Hormel Chili no beans $1.99. Feed 3 people for the price of a #1 at the Varsity….
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Zipneb
June 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
The only problem with this list is that the only healthy meal can be found at Chipolte. Have you checked out the Sodium level in everything that is sold at Chic-Fil-A. The only thins low in sodium there are the napkins
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Dr. John
June 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
I’m a heart surgeon in Georgia, and I’m hoping all of you will see me in a few years.Now that the government is taking over over the health coverage, I really need more and more patients.Please keep eating all the fast food you can chow down, you and I will meet in the very near future.
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Itsaguything
June 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
I noticed that the ones that really trashed the Varsity are women and their opinions don’t count anyway.
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BehindEnemyLines
June 25th, 2009
7:36 pm
I would never believed it possible, but I think Steak & Shake fries have finally surpassed even McDonald’s. Straight out of the fryer both are out of this world but I think S&S has pulled slightly ahead with me.
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OldTimer
June 25th, 2009
7:40 pm
At my age, I appreciate any meal. But I must say, I’m mighty fond of the Varsity.
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Wicked Witch of the South
June 25th, 2009
7:45 pm
The Varsity has lost it’s magic for me ! Soggy onion rings, shrunken hot dogs, wilted fires….The only thing that is the same…..Frosted orange! After 40 years of at least once a week…..no more!!
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Sam
June 25th, 2009
7:49 pm
I was trying to pinpoint the time when the Varsity changed the way of preparing their fare. I think it was when the daughter of the owner took over….but then I think she sold it and now it doesn’t even come close to what it was.
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Dave
June 25th, 2009
7:59 pm
Briefly, The Varsity does not have good food, especially a few hours later; McDonald’s fries, like the rest of its food varies wildly – Wendy’s fries for fast food are good and consistent; Chic-Fil-A – bland; finally, it’s interesting that no one commented on the Church’s thing – Popeye’s everything is much better, Bojangles too.
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Diane
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
Pollo Campero (in the old Don Taco on Jimmy Carter Blvd.) hands down if you’re looking for fried or grilled chicken. Service is fast, prices are reasonable and the place is clean. Much better than El Pollo Locco.
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Booomer
June 25th, 2009
8:53 pm
Zaxby’a rules you people are way to pedestrian and calculated
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tenpin
June 25th, 2009
9:00 pm
bowling alleys have the best burgers
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Old School
June 26th, 2009
8:43 am
Daddy D’z barbecue. Love the Q-wraps and even our 4 year old grandboy asks for the collard greens.
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Larry
June 26th, 2009
8:47 am
Sorry but that ghetto burger is the most over rated piece of crap ever. The only thing else that is over rated is the Varsity, which serves food that tastes like what I got in elementary school cafeterias… I dont understand how people can put up with it let alone love it.
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JB
June 26th, 2009
8:51 am
A BBQ sliced pork samwich on toasted white bread from Harold’s is about the best thing to eat on earth…… wish I could get to it weekly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Art
June 26th, 2009
8:53 am
Michael Jackson’s death at 50, heck even Farah Fawcett at 62, does make one think about that “last supper.” I would agree with you on the The Varsity and Bacchanalia but would have to get my “Cue Fix” somewhere before my time came… say Swallow in the Hollow or Pig-n-Chik… And there would have to be sweet tea and lots of it… maybe from Chick-fil-A of all places… I find myself spending a lot of time in their drive-thru’s on these hot summer days.
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Becky
June 26th, 2009
8:57 am
My last meal wouldn’t come from a restaurant..It would be fried porks chops, fried potatoes, corn on the cob and hot buttered biscuits..With sweet potato pie for dessert..
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Andy
June 26th, 2009
9:01 am
I agree with Larry about the Varsity. It’s greasy, it’s small and not very substantial. Every time I have been there, the amount of fat that supplants taste makes me physically ill. Not good. I have heard Ann’s is overrated before, but I have yet to go there. That being said, I understand the nuance of someone WILLFULLY treating you poorly at their place of business, but I choose not to patronize such a place. What ever happened to service with a smile? Not service when I am damn good and ready.
Check out Uptown Breakfast in Roswell for the best benedicts and Tara Humata for margaritas and chips.
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Pete Townshend
June 26th, 2009
9:06 am
Wish I had gone to Larry’s elementary school … and that he could get a tongue transplant, because obviously his ‘buds are on the fritz.
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Scoutmamma
June 26th, 2009
9:17 am
Once upon a time, I too, would have listed the Varsity in my top picks. But after having eaten there this past Monday, I was sadly disappointed. It’s just not the same. Now, as far as the best burgers…go to George’s in Virginia Highlands. It ain’t “ghetto”, but it sho is tasty….
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June 26th, 2009
9:35 am
I will never understand the obsession with boiled peanuts. Nothing like eating something with the consistency of sinus-infection snot, and about the same taste. Peanuts should be roasted, or mashed into butter.
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South Georgia
June 26th, 2009
9:52 am
Boiled peanuts is shore ’nuff good eatin’.
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Becky
June 26th, 2009
10:01 am
Boiled peanuts are to die for…Do you eat boiled orka? Now that stuff is nasty…
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jakesdad
June 26th, 2009
10:36 am
Mellow Mushroom – yes, they’re all over the SE now but they started here!
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HCCynic
June 26th, 2009
10:56 am
Harold’s BBQ!!!
I need a fix and it is about lunch time…See you there!
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Babs
June 26th, 2009
11:11 am
The Varsity is some of the WORST food I have ever had.
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South Georgia
June 26th, 2009
11:12 am
What would get my post removed for heaven’s sake?
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South Ga.
June 26th, 2009
11:14 am
What about my comment could possibly have been remotely offensive?
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Money
June 26th, 2009
11:19 am
Say Becky, are you married?!? You hit the nail on the head with that homemade masterpiece of a meal!!!!!
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Becky
June 26th, 2009
11:52 am
Money, yeah I’m married..Going on 16 years now..
But hey, if you have enough money, maybe we can talk..LOL
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Just Me
June 26th, 2009
12:11 pm
A chick fil a sandwich, with ketchup, a large waffle fry and a large sweet tea. Now that’s worthy of a last meal!!!!
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Becky
June 26th, 2009
2:17 pm
The food at Zaxby’s is good, but the service sucks..
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Ricky
June 26th, 2009
4:20 pm
This Canton location is closed at this time.Not open for business any more.
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sthop456
June 26th, 2009
6:13 pm
Already gone: Lums for hotdogs boiled in beer and clams and Olley’s trolley for the “Ollie Burger”. Older native Atlantan’s know what I’m talkin’ ’bout.
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OldTimer
June 26th, 2009
7:05 pm
Love the Varsity.
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Jenn H
June 26th, 2009
7:31 pm
Varsity is nasty. I heard all the hype and visited and didn’t even finish my meal. The hamburger was dry and the hot dog tasted three days old. I’ve had better chili from a can.
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Old School
June 26th, 2009
7:34 pm
Mmmmmmm… Lum’s hotdogs steamed in beer and piled high with sauerkraut! Their french fries with the seasoned salt were also to die for. Thanks for reminding me of great food & good times, sthop456!
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jon
June 26th, 2009
8:17 pm
As long as we are time traveling, how about the fried chicken and biscuits at Johnny Rebs. It was around Union City, I think.
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Gary
June 26th, 2009
9:04 pm
I had what I thought was a stroke of genious a few months back and, on the theory that everything tastes better with bacon, made myself a drink of rum, pineapple juice and bacon. It was the most disgusting thing I ever drank. The bacon fat completely ruined it. So be careful out there!!
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janet
June 26th, 2009
10:27 pm
Any thing prepared at the Five Seasons Brewing in Sandy Springs. Fresh, seasonal and organic…what a way to leave the planet.
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joe
June 27th, 2009
3:12 am
I have been living overseas for the past decade and sure do miss good ol’ Georgia soul food! At this point I would pay top $$$ for a home-cooked meal of buttermilk fried chicken, black-eyed peas and collard greens with pepper sauce, fried okra, squash casserole and cornbread, with a tall glass of iced tea…followed by peach cobbler with homemade vanilla ice cream. Man o’ man, my mouth starts waterin’ every time I think on it. Anybody know where I can find a meal like that next time I drop in?
p.s. My great Uncle Ralph “Hot Papa” Wages was said to make the best BBQ hash in the state when he used to work out at the Athens Country Club. Wouldn’t mind to have some o’ that either. Mmmmm-mmm GOOD!
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melissa's mom
June 27th, 2009
11:05 am
I’ve never heard of anyone who “hates” the Chic-fil-A cows!! Sacrilege!
Those cows are the most delightful ad of Atlanta. They always give me a chuckle when I spot them on billboards. They are always current and funny. I hope to see them twittering soon.
As for the rest of your comments, I agree with your “best of” opinions. I love the Varsity, too, but can’t eat it as often as I used to. Never tried Chipotle, but you’ve peaked my curiosity.
One more beef I have – when describing food, one should never use the word “snotty”. For those of us with weak stomachs and vivid imaginations, that is a total turn off. I didn’t care to read anymore after that.
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Steve
June 27th, 2009
11:31 am
Fast food? Are you kidding me? Just eat a stick of butter, it would be healthier. and people wonder why they are so fat…
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Shar
June 27th, 2009
11:38 am
The Cuban sandwiches at the old Havana Sandwich Shop on Buford Highway were the absolute best. I understand that they moved somewhere north of the City after the fire last spring. Does anyone know where they are now? I crave the half sandwich plate with black beans!
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Bruce
June 27th, 2009
12:35 pm
Varsity’s is the ugly armpit of Atlanta. How you can pick it for the best of anything, even the best of fast food, is beyond me. I can only assume you are playing to the crowd with this one. I’m not real impressed with the rest of your selections either, but then I don’t like fast food, so I’m a little biased. Still, everyone and everything is better than the Varsity, shame on you for selling out.
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sedandon
June 27th, 2009
12:43 pm
I wish there was an In N Out here, but they are only on the west coast. Zaxby’s are my fave fries. For some reason, McD’s fries don’t taste like they used to, and I don’t eat there anymore. I wasn’t impressed with Varsity, but I am not a native and I think my expectations were too high after hearing folks rave about it for a year before I finally tried some. Chipotle is good and so is El Pollo Loco, but it’s much better in Cali (food & service) for some strange reason. Never had Zesto’s, but I am going there today!
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marsh
June 27th, 2009
12:57 pm
why do you think Americans are so fat? (rhetorical question)
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Janie Kraker
June 27th, 2009
2:17 pm
I agree with all your fast food choices. I seldom eat out these days, but I DO get cravings for anything from The Varsity….so we trek down to North Avenue. Town Center does NOT have the same atmosphere at all. As for no Chik Fil A on Sundays, well, bravo to them for standing by their religious convictions! McDonalds fries DO rock! Umm…and I agree with other posters…..what about Krystals???? I LOVE them!!! So what if all these fast food recommendations are not “healthy”? Just don’t go there every day. Splurge every now and then. I had a heart attack and was being tranferred via ambulance to Crawford Long. I pleaded and begged that they let me stop my The Varsity. Alas, they could not be swayed. But I SO WANTED a grilled pimento cheese sandwich, onion rings and a frosted orange. So, when I was released from the hospital, I bet you can guess where the first stop was before I came home. Yep….The Varsity!!!! And it was oh so good!!!!!
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trudi
June 27th, 2009
4:42 pm
Qdoba and Chipotle run a close tie for the best burritos in town. (Qdoba has one with roasted squash, zucchini, etc., which is terrific.) And about once a season, I just have to make a Varsity pilgrimage to get those yummy, greasy onion rings and park on the rooftop parking deck overlooking midtown.
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RK
June 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Varsity food – overrated – been eating there since the 60’s – not the same – change the grease more often, people!!!!
Fries – 5 Guys for real.
Chic-fil-a – do something about your fries please
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Marcie
June 27th, 2009
10:02 pm
Grew up in Atlanta with occasional family trips to the Varsity and Krystal. Teen years in the 1960’s, a bunch of pals would pile in a Mustang or GTO and cruise the V. Now in our fifties and sixties, we still rendezvous there,
I lead a healthy moderate lifestyle and am not fat. Like they say in England: “A little of what you fancy does you good.” The only time I ever eat an onion ring is at the V. And they are battered, not breaded. Pulleaze!
Hint: try the grilled pimiento cheese sandwich at the V. Yum! Not to mention the fried peach pie a la mode.
Recently cleaned out a box of cancelled checks from UGA days in the 1970’s. There were many checks for three dollars or so written to the Athens Varsity. (And they used to sell beer!)
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Mike
June 28th, 2009
1:19 am
Steak n Shake has the best burgers. The frisco melt is freakin awesome. I could eat it for every meal. Zaxbys nibblers are the best chicken!
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nongineer
June 28th, 2009
1:26 am
Having left Atlanta 20 years ago and only getting back once a year or so to visit, I wish the Varsity would figure out a way to ship onion rings and chili dogs across the country without the rings going limp.
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socialgal
June 28th, 2009
1:44 am
El Pollo Loco has really good chicken but their Taco Bell type foods are way too greasy and lack in flavor. I gotta go with Popeye’s for some tasty fried chicken. McD’s fries aren’t good anymore and Wendy’s fries have gotten better… but Zaxby’s fries are great with the seasoned salt and they now have onion rings which are yummy. Steak n Shake fries are way too thin. Chipotle is delicious, way better than Moe’s and Willie’s. For breakfast, Martin’s large chicken biscuit is the way to go with a large sweet tea. 15yrs in GA and still no Varsity for me… I’ll pass. As far as Krystal and White Castle, too much bread and onions… where’s the meat? Hardee’s has some good burgers but a little pricey. Think I’m gonna have to get a Chipotle fix soon.
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stephanie
June 28th, 2009
9:17 am
The VARSITY is awesomeeee . I was born an raised here . I can remeber years back when ii was a child there use to be an old man there that would be hollaring any one else rember this? dang good food onion rings and chili dogs to the haters yall just aint southern lol
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Dan
June 28th, 2009
10:07 am
If the Varsity is so disgusting then why do they sell over 30,000 dogs on a football saturday? It is nostalgic for many of us who are from the area so if you don’t have anything good to say then move back to where ever you came from. PLEASE!
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Pi$$onaDAWG
June 28th, 2009
10:53 am
2 chilli cheese dogs, rings, fried
(I like) apple pie, and a PC (Chocolate Milk on shaved ICE) is a tradition for DAD and I as we go to the First home TECH Game every year. I you don’t like the V fine, but I would not trust the empyolees, other than Chic-fil-a’s, to not do crap to my food from all the other places mentioned.
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Pi$$onaDAWG
June 28th, 2009
11:10 am
Steph his NAME is ERBY WALKER and he has passed, but will never be forgotten. I guess you are to young to remember or to have ever had the pleasure of FLOSSY MAE sing to you while He/She delivered meals wearing THAT HAT. People nothing against the new locations, but if you havn’t been to The Varsity in Atlanta or Athens or the Jr. Varsity in Atlanta then it just isn’t the same. Gordon Muir keep up the tradition.
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Steve
June 28th, 2009
12:07 pm
As anyone looked in the mirror lately? How much excess fat are you lugging around? 30 lbs? 40? Go have another greasy heart clogging disgusting non-nutritive fast food meal.
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Cardog10
June 28th, 2009
8:11 pm
Janie- you had a Heart Attack and wanted them to get you the Varsity? Nothing would make me want a fried cheese sandwich with fries and a 1000 calorie orange shake.
It’s like my dying of liver failure, and I get picked up after it finally fails… and I want a pitcher of beer and a double shot of vodka. Are you retarded? You are probably dead by now, for good reason.
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Biff
June 28th, 2009
9:22 pm
The Varsity is highly overrated. Nostalgic, old, yes… Good food? No. Good tasting bad food? Not even that. Every time I’ve taken an out of towner there they look at the place and go Wow! They eat the food and go UGH! It ain’t all that.
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Wreck
June 28th, 2009
9:23 pm
In the 40’s,late at night, after studying all evening at Tech, we would go up to the Varsity for a midnight snack. We had no money so this was the only place we could afford but the food was great. They still have much of the same things on the menu. None of the other fast food places mentioned in this article were in existence back then.
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Scott Perry
June 28th, 2009
10:31 pm
I am so tired of the cow advertisements at Chick-fil-A that I could scream! We should boycott or something.
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walter
June 29th, 2009
12:29 am
Fat food, fast food, fast food. Typical Atanta
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raven
June 29th, 2009
12:31 am
tora fugu or tiger blowfish is on the top list. there is only one restaurant in Atlanta that served it. check out yasu japanese bistro.
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gmeanie
June 29th, 2009
9:03 am
the tomminator at fox bros bar-b-q!
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selena
June 29th, 2009
12:20 pm
the campari brand tomatoes are absolutely stellar. sweet, juicy and never bland. they are a little expensive but so worth it. i eat the entire container in about two minutes.
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Becky
June 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
sthop456, Oh my..My first job (as a cook) was at Lums..I was 17, started as a waitress, one day the regional manager came in and I had to be his server..Talk about scared to death..A few days after he left, my manager called me into his office and told me that per the regional managers request, I was gonig to train to be a cook..This was at the one on S.Cobb Dr..My older brother cooked at the one on Roswell Rd. I also rememeber Ollie’s burgers..
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Becky
June 29th, 2009
1:48 pm
Fat or skinny, we are all going to die..Not everyone that eats fast food is fat..Also, no one is saying that they eat fast food every meal..
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Art
June 29th, 2009
8:21 pm
The 4th begs the GRILL… It doesn’t matter what you grill just so long you’re grilling it…. We’ll probably do dawgs on the grill… is there any food that is more evocative of July 4th as the noble hot dog? We’ll also smoke a little pork butt… low and slow… Brunswick stew Meredith? Do you have a recipe you can share? I’m a devotee but unfortunately my “Grandma” passed before I got her church recipe. It had no beef and very little tomatoes… chicken, butter beans, corn and a small amount of potatoes… to name a few of the ingredients… Growing up in NC it was a component of my favorite meal… BBQ pork, Brunswick stew, corn bread, fresh sliced tomatoes and cucumber and onions in a vinegar and sugar…
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reservoirDAWG
June 30th, 2009
1:54 pm
What is a Tomminator?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
June 30th, 2009
2:43 pm
Dawg: A tomminator is a BIG plate of tater tots smothered in brunswick stew and cheese. Available at FOx Bros. Barbecue.
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reservoirDAWG
June 30th, 2009
3:26 pm
That sounds good. I’m not a big fan of their BBQ, though.
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Carol
June 30th, 2009
3:34 pm
We’ll be grilling out in Orange Beach, Alabama at our rented beachside house and watching the fireworks display put on by the City of Gulf Shores. Can’t wait!
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Robert
June 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
All these people complaining about the Varsity are obviously not native Atlantans. As someone that grew up on the Varsity, it definitely makes my top 5 list. And as far as the dogs being 3 days old, well, that’s just plain wrong since it says right on the side of the box that they don’t serve any food over 12 hours old.
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dan.....k
June 30th, 2009
10:33 pm
Places in Atlanta you have to eat before you die…
1.Pancakes @ Rias Bluebird
2.Biscuit @ Biscuits and More/Fagans Biscuit Barn
3.BBQ @ BBQ1
4.Meat and three @ Carvers Country Kitchen
5.Dinner @ Rathbuns
Honorable mention: Pastries A Gogo, Varsity, Vortex, Daddy Dz, Swallow at the Hollow, Baccanalia
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Coastal Cavalier
June 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
I’m glad someone mentioned Ollie’s Trolley. I have mentioned them to several people and they look at me like I am slack eyed. An Ollie burger and fries now that was good eating…
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Coastal Cavalier
June 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
I am also glad other share my rather low opinion of The Varsity.
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Grant Park Kirk
June 30th, 2009
10:39 pm
Last meal? Go for the delicious buttermilk fried chicken and taters at Agnes and Muriels in Midtown. Or maybe the succulent Fish n’ Chips and Belgian pint at Decatur’s Brickstore.
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bigwheel
June 30th, 2009
11:10 pm
Larry and Andy prefer each others weenies, go back to NY!
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Southside Native
June 30th, 2009
11:11 pm
What the heck is Big Orange??? Whenever I go to The Varsity, and shame on y’all for picking on an Atlanta landmark, I always order an F.O., or Frosted Orange. They change the menu on me?
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Techfan
June 30th, 2009
11:11 pm
just give me Carrabbas all day long
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A. Greaseman
June 30th, 2009
11:12 pm
Larry, Andy, Babs, & Jenn H need to get back to yankeeland where they belong.Please allow me to add in the words of the late,great Lewis Grizzard, “Delta is ready when you are.”
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Mel on a car phone
June 30th, 2009
11:19 pm
I’d stop by Cafe Pig in Peachtree City for some BBQ and Brunswick Stew.
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bearinatlanta
June 30th, 2009
11:57 pm
Grant Park Kirk obviously hasnt been to Agnes and Muriels in a long time, Its CLOSED. New owners ran it into the ground and it closed months ago.
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MOT
July 1st, 2009
12:18 am
Hey Mr./Ms. Name Required: if you have eaten boiled pnuts as you describe, they were not done right, in fact it sounds like you got mixed up with boiled okra. A boiled pnut done right is not soggy, it is just right firm just right amount of salt, and when done right you can’t eat just one. But boiled pnuts like grits and other southern delicacies get fixed wrong many times by non-natives (like grits with sugar and cream????? eeewwww gross, no wonder those poor yanks think they are nasty…they ARE like that!!!)
We used to have a dependable source for good boiled pnuts, the man in Stone Mountain village, but that was years ago. We have since had to resourt to fixin our own b/c apparently there is NO one who knows how. I am guessing that they buy canned boiled pnuts which are already on the mushy tasteless side and then boil them some more with salt and water, to say they are fresh boiled, so yes you would end up with a snotty consistancy. Sorry that had to be your first (and probably last) experience with a boiled pnut.
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E
July 1st, 2009
1:51 am
Sorry, Robert but as at Atlanta native (well, lived here since age 3, now 38) I have to agree with others on here about the Varsity. It is just god-awful. For nostalgia, you can’t beat it and once every two or three years I will think, oh, it can’t be as bad as I remember…I’ll go, get a slaw dog, a chili dog and onion rings, eat a bite of each then toss it out and cry at having wasted $7 on that sludge. Fun for people watching, but take your own food or just get a coke.
For me, some of those RDA boiled peanuts and some BBQ from Harolds, original Pig n Chick or Swallow at the Hollow would make the list of Atlanta “last meals” for sure!
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dagnabit
July 1st, 2009
6:01 am
down with the varsity and go to the swallow in the hollow.
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party pooper
July 1st, 2009
6:20 am
varsity does suck
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Fat Johnny
July 1st, 2009
6:55 am
Fresh Air BBQ in Jackson, GA (since 1929)
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Native
July 1st, 2009
6:57 am
For all you Varsity haters……You HAVE to admit that the onion rings can’t be beat…nobody does onion rings like the Varsity- Say what you will about the dogs/ but you gotta give it up for the rings! And anyone who don’t like boiled peanuts…you aint a true georgian!
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ms c
July 1st, 2009
7:20 am
Ollie’s Trollley was the BOMB.
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FORMICA DINETTE
July 1st, 2009
7:36 am
HEY! ANYBODY REMEMBER THE HONG KONG ON LUCKIE STREET? THE SOUTHERN CLUB ON 11TH? THE RIO VISTA?
THESE ARE THE ONES I REMEMBER MOST AS GOOD EATS.
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Liz Lorber
July 1st, 2009
10:16 am
We’ve been going to St. Martin for 20+ years now. Hope you stayed at L’Esplanade (up on the hill above Grand Case) and hope you met Stephane and Bruno at Le Cottage! Another good lunch spot (for your next trip) is Layla’s.
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bbb
July 1st, 2009
10:25 am
Dba BBQ is the best!
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Georgia from Georgia
July 1st, 2009
11:45 am
I saw the show last night and I can’t wait to go to JCT Kitchen and experience them for myself.
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Art
July 1st, 2009
1:20 pm
The restaurants in Grand Case are over-rated for the most part. Probably the only one that comes close to great French cuisine is Le Pressoir; even it wouldn’t make it in France or St. Barth’s. I agree with Meredith on Spiga: absolutely the worst Italian food on the island. How they can charge for that horrific experience is beyond my understanding; the owner should have paid the patrons to eat his drivel. Talk of the Town is one of my favorites on the island. The Creole touch on beach grill food can’t be beat. That said, if one is looking for fine dining and fine hotels, go to St. Barth. St. Martin’s days as the culinary capital are long gone, like most of its great hotels and villas. Good 20-30 years ago; bad for the last 10 years.
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wendy
July 1st, 2009
1:28 pm
Amen to the Fresh Air BBQ in Jackson!! I grew up eating their BBQ and haven’t found a pork sandwich or brunswick stew anywhere that’s even close! They also have locations in Macon and Athens. The Athens location is a great stop for Bulldog tailgating food.
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Becky
July 1st, 2009
2:43 pm
There is still a Rio Vista in Jackson and Griffin..
Is there anyone from the Cobb County area that remembers George’s Steaks on Atlanta Rd. Steak to die for..So tender,that you could cut it with a fork..
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amy
July 1st, 2009
5:05 pm
burger from the Vortex and Pulled Pork BBQ from swallow at the hollow on their homemade texas toast!
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Computerblue
July 1st, 2009
5:40 pm
Best onion rings on the planet? Beacon Drive In in Spartanburg SC. WOW. For my last meal, I’d have to leave Atlanta… I’d either hit Lotus Pond in Clemmons, NC (their crispy scallion chicken rocks) or the Main Stream Fish House in Dallas, TX — they had (argh, just found out they closed) a tomato butter sauce that was to die for — you could’ve eaten old shoes with that stuff.
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MistaO
July 2nd, 2009
4:23 pm
You are not the only one who prayed for the Dark Chocolate Reese’s cup.
I also wrote them several times over the past year. Now I did find that in certain regions of the US, last year they had a special Halloween dark chocolate cup, but it did not release nationally.
I’m glad they have it and if they are prudent, they will add it to their permanent line up of products…
Ymmmmmmm…..
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Becky
July 2nd, 2009
4:38 pm
I’m willing to try it..The only thing is that I don’t like dark chocolate..Actually, I could live without chocolate 99% of the time..OK, go ahead and say that I’m crazy because I don’t care for chocolate..I have been told that all of my 47 years..
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Stan
July 2nd, 2009
4:44 pm
Becky, you’re crazy!!
Well, you asked for it
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Darin
July 2nd, 2009
5:08 pm
Ooh — I’ve dipped a peanut butter-coated spoon in dark chocolate chips before too. Good to know I’m not alone. I also recommend dipping bits of Valrhona dark chocolate in Smucker’s natural peanut butter. So good.
I’ll try the new dark Reese’s. I hope I like it better than the Newman’s Own dark chocolate peanut butter cup. It’s weird, because most of the Newman’s Own products are really good, but that one is oddly lacking in flavor.
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Sophia
July 2nd, 2009
8:15 pm
You have to try the Marietta Diner on Cobb Parkway in Marietta. Reasonable prices with generous portions.
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Pat
July 2nd, 2009
8:34 pm
The best meat and 3 in the city is Barbeque Kitchen on Virginia Avenue near the airport. Awsome biscuits! Another good one is the OK Cafe at the corner of West Paces Ferry and Northside. Gotta love their homemade corn muffins! No Jiffy Mix there!
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nicole
July 2nd, 2009
8:50 pm
I have lived in Duluth 13 years, Rexall is definitely overated!! Give me Dillard’s BBQ on Buford Hwy
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junebaby
July 2nd, 2009
10:14 pm
i would love to have a burger from ollie’s trolley, with all the special sauce they used to dress em’ with. a hot dog from the cart that used to set up in the old central park downtown. and fruity sweet tea to wash em’ down. man.. i could eat that everyday for the rest of my life! forget about my health.
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Nicky
July 2nd, 2009
11:23 pm
The Vortex! Love, love love their burgers and even the chicken sandwich. AND the tater tots can’t be beat! Great people watching opportunity as well. Midtowm is my favorite but Little Five Points will do in a pinch…
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Regrets
July 3rd, 2009
1:00 am
I sure did miss out. I was in Atlanta with my band and we had a bunch of time before our gig. I was really looking forward to some local authentic cuisine. So where did we end up? At one of those combo taco bell / KFC places. I kid you not. Reading this article and the comments make me want to weep for my loss.
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ATL NATIVE
July 3rd, 2009
4:22 am
KC BBQ in Sandysprings is pretty good. Busy Bee, Landons, Pelgreens is where you can get that buttermilk chicken. Marietta Dinner overrated, Buckhead dinner overrated and the Ghetto Burger has no taste. Still looking for the best STEAKS around, Chicago’s in Marietta have a good ribeye, and prime rib. Prime in lenox is OK, I am headed to Rathbuns nextweek check his out. Ruth chris does a great prime rib. Still looking for a good aged steak any suggestions>
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ADL
July 3rd, 2009
8:00 am
I am a Southerner, born and bred, but nothing from the Varsity beats a Nathan’s hot dog!!!!
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Dubbs
July 3rd, 2009
8:28 am
To Atl-One of the best filets ever….Hal’s at old ivey.
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Bob
July 3rd, 2009
8:33 am
My first trip to the Varsity was in 1960 when I drove from Nashville, TN in my Candy Apple 1957 Corvette. Thought I was in heaven. Moved to Atlanta a year later and never looked back. Still go to the Varsity but not more than once a month, still watching my weight and health.
My next favorite is Baccnanalia. Having dinner there tonight. Don’t go there as often as the Varsity, too $$$$$$$$$$
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Jake
July 4th, 2009
3:47 pm
Here’s some good places to eat in Atlanta:
-R. Thomas Deluxe Grill
-Slice
-Flying Biscuit Cafe
-Matthews Cafeteria
-Red Snapper
-Savage Pizza
-Fat Matt’s Rib Shack
-Greenwoods on the Green
-Dominick’s
-McCray’s Tavern on the Square (Cool patio on the roof)
-Capri Italian American Cafe (Call ahead very small)
-Burger Joe’s
-O K Cafe
-Eats (Off Ponce)
-Thai Restaurant of Norcross (Not the best area but amazing food)
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butch
July 5th, 2009
11:07 am
SOUTHERN SMOKE HART CO. GA.
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Jodi
July 5th, 2009
11:20 am
Meridith – what about Fatt Matt’s?
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CB
July 5th, 2009
12:20 pm
FRESH AIR BARBECUE, JACKSON, GA
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Drew
July 5th, 2009
12:25 pm
You need to check out the BBQ at The Albert in Inman Park!
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DonH.
July 5th, 2009
1:09 pm
Huh? Dreamland BBQ doesn’t even get mentioned in the last list of other joints to try???!! Blasphemy!
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Mark
July 5th, 2009
2:13 pm
AJ’s tasty pig in Loganville
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New to ATL
July 5th, 2009
11:55 pm
From the Mid-west to the West Coast now in the South I thank you for the suggestions on places to eat here and near to ATL. PS. you folks sure like to fight. LOL
Thank You
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July 6th, 2009
12:29 pm
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Who is he?
July 6th, 2009
1:30 pm
YAY – love all the local fresh markets – but c’mon Meri … who is the cuteness in the photo??
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mford
July 6th, 2009
1:53 pm
Ahhh – he’s Eric Seugling — project manager for most of the creation of StudioPlex back in 2000.
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Becky
July 6th, 2009
4:46 pm
Stan, I might be crazy, but when you do go to cooking school and open up your restaurant, I’ll be there to try it..:)
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Katharine
July 7th, 2009
12:17 am
I tried it the second day they were open. I wanted to like it, but the burgers had a strange, dense texture that I found unpleasant, and the fries were ennnh, even with the interesting ketchup options. I’d be willing to go and order something else, but it just seems like their flagship item should be better.
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jimmy
July 7th, 2009
8:13 am
Is Onyx included in the taste of Cheshire? That would seal the deal for me.
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Michele Niesen
July 7th, 2009
8:15 am
Hey there! Thanks for the plug…! Michele here…having a great time sourcing all this great stuff from local farmers and producers. Stuff you’ll never see on the shelves at the grocery store…sadly, but markets are where it’s at!
Just one correction…my number to contact is 404-428-6300 and farmers get a monthly rate $75 or can do a 5% commission. Thanks for supporting small farmers!!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 7th, 2009
8:30 am
Thanks Michele!! See you at the market! I’ll also correct the numbers in the blog …
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DM
July 7th, 2009
6:00 pm
Wow.. $7.50 for 3… That’s SO affordable…
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David S
July 7th, 2009
9:16 pm
You know, if the folks at the stores had any clue as to what to do with a reusable bag it would be fine, but they don’t. My wife and I have been using fabric bags for 20 years, but at least in California they knew what to do with them. Here, they are so used to the plastic that they look at you funny when you hand them the fabric ones. Also, they mindlessly have been taught 3 items per bag, period. Who owns enough reusables to put only 3 items in a bag??? How about load until full??
When stores get their acts together, then maybe they can start demanding more of their customers. Until then, plastic please.
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Wilton
July 8th, 2009
11:04 am
I was interested in buying tickets online, but when I click the link I got this:
“Blog not found
Sorry, the blog you were looking for does not exist. However, the name tourofchesirebridge is available to register!”
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Amy W.
July 8th, 2009
1:27 pm
Here is the correct link: The 2nd “h” was left out of “Cheshire” in the original post:
http://www.tourofcheshirebridge.blogspot.com/
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marquis
July 8th, 2009
1:49 pm
This reminds me of the Seinfeld with the “non-fat” frozen yogurt. There ain’t nothing like the real thing. Don’t fool yourself. Why spend your hard-earned dollar on a tasteless healthy burger? Just eat your FiveGuys (or whatever horrible/great thing you like), but do it less often. Happy times ensue….
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kate
July 8th, 2009
2:46 pm
Come get sustainable GA Peaches from Pearson Farms at the East Atlanta Farmers Market–Thursday Afternoons from 4p-dusk at the Ace Hardware. FARMEAV.COM
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Tony
July 8th, 2009
4:24 pm
Chef Santiago. I first went to Pura Vida a couple of months after it opened – beautiful. He is absolutely underrated.
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Rodney
July 8th, 2009
4:43 pm
I’m up for any home-town win! My personal favorite of these three is Chef Hector, but that’s only because I had my first taste of mofongo at Pura Vida a few years back and I’ve yet to forget that experience.
It would so totally qualify for that “Best Thing I Ever Ate” show for me.
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RK
July 8th, 2009
5:16 pm
“Real” tapas? I would consider “real tapas” something from Eclipse di Luna — food that you would find in Spain. No matter — quite an exciting list — especially with Gillespie. I think TC and Bravo stepped it up this year after a poor season last time around.
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sig
July 9th, 2009
1:13 am
your blatant disrespect of EK is appalling…you should wake up and see what he is doing at ENO.
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mford
July 9th, 2009
5:58 am
SIg — sorry, but I hardly think saying that I’m not as familiar with chef Kirshtein’s food as I’d like to be and that I’m excited for him and looking forward to watching him with interest is disrespectful.
Rodney — that show is a hoot, isn’t it?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 9th, 2009
6:56 am
Thanks Amy!! I’ll fix above, too!
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LT
July 9th, 2009
8:00 am
I’m with Marquis on this one. As much as I’d like to try & eat healthier, it’s just not worth the $ to me if it’s gonna taste bland or even kinda nasty. Might as well enjoy yourself, just in moderation. Yay Five Guys!!
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Drew
July 9th, 2009
9:43 am
In a restaurant I always have tap water but during my last trip to Repast I had their in-house filtered water, Natura.
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Lizzy
July 9th, 2009
9:54 am
To David S: Please bear with certain stores that aren’t up to par with recycling and sustainability measures. Publix shoppers are using cloth resuable bags in abundance where I shop. It’s over the top to blast an area you now reside in about how much better your previous home was – a little tact goes a long way. Also, can’t help but sliding in this comment – the state of California is in a financial meltdown right now so your timing on lauding its grandness with resusable bags is rather laughable. No one region has it all together neighbor.
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June Howard
July 9th, 2009
11:04 am
I think that Eli Kirshtein’s style and knowledge of his craft is nothing short of genious. I was told by friends to try out the relatively new chef at Eno. I did, and was more than pleased. He is also the youngest contestant, and I believe that he is going to give them a run for the money. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go very far.
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del
July 9th, 2009
11:12 am
I am amazed that three of our local chefs have made it to Top Chef. It speaks volumes about Atlanta’s up and coming world class cuisine. Hector’s food is always very tasty and solid. Kevin is masterful in the kitchen. He is creative and consistent. Eli is a wild card. He’s young and passionate about his food. I ate one of the best meals of my life at his restaurant several monthes back. I had no idea at the time that he would be a candidate for Top Chef, but he more than fills his shoes.
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Sarah Dorio
July 9th, 2009
11:15 am
Chef Hector for sure! He’s absolutely brilliant!
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Wilton
July 9th, 2009
11:52 am
Thanks Amy. I should have looked a bit closer eh?
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reservoirDAWG
July 9th, 2009
3:01 pm
Liberal, wussy politicians. T oanswer your question though, I order tap water.
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Rodney
July 9th, 2009
4:08 pm
I don’t drink tap water at my house without it being filtered so I’m not going to when I’m out to eat. IF the resto is filtering their tap water, I’m all for it.
Lord knows it’s cheaper than two bottles of Panna.
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Rodney
July 9th, 2009
4:13 pm
In high school I worked at a small local miniature golf course – we made homemade ice cream every day and sold it and my FAVORITE was peach. Jeez, just thinking about it now brings back such a taste-memory!
But I have to say that my favorite use of the peach is in a cobbler. Not a fancy, sugary-topped one … just my Mom’s cuppa-cuppa-cuppa cobbler. (Works for blackberries, too)
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Rodney
July 9th, 2009
5:00 pm
@Meridith – BTIEA is a great show!
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Rob
July 10th, 2009
8:04 am
All 3 are great representatives of Atlanta; however, my vote goes to Kevin. His creativity is especially satisfying. We have eaten at WFG many times, and it has really improved since Kevin got there. Wine pairings are fun with his dishes also. Our favorite restaurant in Atlanta.
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agent5
July 10th, 2009
10:08 am
My vote is for Chef Kevin at Woodfire. He is inventive, creative and just plain awe-inspiring in the kitchen. His pickled beets the other night were a surprising and amazing explosion of flavor and his soups are to die for — so I just keep going back for more!
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bo
July 10th, 2009
10:15 am
I agree with Rodney…3 ATL boys cookin’ it up….I like our chances. Can’t wait, but I will say I really like Kevin’s BBQ this past 4th. He is amazing with what he can do with a pig. Nice to know that his must haves to have on hand is smoked pork…who knew
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just sayin
July 10th, 2009
10:46 am
You sound so proud of yourself for breaking the confidence of whoever told you. This was common knowledge inside the restaurant community but we waited for the announcement. It’s not at all surprising that you and Foodie buddha were the two who decided not to play along.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 10th, 2009
1:38 pm
Just sayin: Breaking news is part of what we do. I’m aware I didn’t know anything more than what folks in the restaurant industry knew, but I don’t work in that industry anymore. Foodie Buddha did a great job getting this out to those who aren’t privy to the inside info.
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Rickster
July 10th, 2009
4:07 pm
For those of us who eat real food, try Matthew’s Cafeteria & Mary Macs.
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Scott
July 10th, 2009
4:11 pm
Ann & Bill’s in Forest Park or Buckners in Jackson.
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The Truth
July 10th, 2009
5:17 pm
I agree with Mary Mac’s but I have also loved the OK Cafe.
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nolle
July 10th, 2009
5:41 pm
Michelle, which restarant in Decatur? the supper club?
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GaNative
July 10th, 2009
5:42 pm
Our Way Cafe in Avondale Estates, GA
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Carl P.
July 10th, 2009
7:39 pm
The link to Open Hand Atlanta. the beneficiary, should be http://www.projectopenhand.org which takes you to the Atlanta organization. The current link takes you to the San Francisco organization. Great idea!
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ebwinn@bellsouth.net
July 10th, 2009
10:43 pm
Quinnies on LaVista Rd at Oak Grove has yummy veggies,chicken,cornbread and great unsweetened ice tea.
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Collard Green Man
July 10th, 2009
10:52 pm
There are probably a great deal of places one might prefer to go. But, if you are downtown, and hungry, the BBQ Works at Underground has surprisingly good veggies The line can be long, but the wait is worth it. The Collards are heavenly. The meats . . well this is a veggie thing.
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Car-less ITP
July 11th, 2009
4:58 am
Sounds delicious – although WAY too far out for me. The name is funny, though. “Dutch monkey doughnuts” sounds like a substitute expletive you’d use if you did something painful within earshot of little kids.
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Car-less ITP
July 11th, 2009
5:02 am
P.S.
Two typos in your link. It’s http://www.dutchmonkeydoughnuts.com. The link URL says “dutchmonkydoughnuts.”
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Karen
July 11th, 2009
8:23 am
Recently ate at Cakes & Ale in City of Decatur. Food, especially the fresh organic vegetables, was creatively prepared and delicious. My first tasting of a fresh olive was a revelation!
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Skeet Dawg
July 11th, 2009
12:49 pm
Tiffany’s Soul Food in Locust Grove, GA
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mg
July 11th, 2009
1:02 pm
John Boys (Canton Hwy, Marietta). Buffet; Country cooking; Fried and baked meats; lots of vegetables; soup; breads; desserts. And all for $7.00 (don’t forget to tip well – the service is excellent)
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Mark
July 11th, 2009
1:04 pm
Rickster got it right.
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MsLR from DC
July 11th, 2009
6:10 pm
The next time I visit Atlanta, JCT Kitchen and the “Angry Mussels” will be on my to enjoy list.
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william
July 11th, 2009
8:40 pm
anything q-ued, anywhere,anytime is the bomb
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william
July 11th, 2009
8:41 pm
life is too short not to que
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N-GA
July 12th, 2009
4:10 pm
Lum’s
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globeflyer
July 12th, 2009
4:15 pm
Five Guys-best burger of any chain. Used to love Popeye’s chicken strips till they got rid of the Mardi Gras sauce…Big Mistake. The Varsity is one of those places that has a lot of nostalgia built in….if you didn’t grow up with it, you probably won’t “get” it….
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Sandra
July 12th, 2009
4:38 pm
I’ve been living in the sticks (my closest Wally World is 35 miles away) in Washington State for the past 7 years. I really miss the Varsity and Chick-Fil-A!!!
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Derek
July 12th, 2009
4:58 pm
The Best Onion Rings in Atlanta can be found at Jim and Nick’s Bar-b-Que on South Cobb Drive and the East-West Connector . . .
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Edward
July 12th, 2009
5:24 pm
When a “food critic” says The Varsity is one of their favorite places, forever more they are not considered a believable critic on ANY food any place, in my opinion. It would be one thing to just describe the absolutely horrible “food” (is it really food?) but in order to get that abysmal atrociousness, one must endure by far the most surly and obnoxious service in town. No thanks.
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RK
July 12th, 2009
5:45 pm
the best fast food today is bought at a grocery store and thawed in your microwave. fast food at a restaurant has degenerated into tasteless and greasy crap.
an option is go to a made to order fast food restaurant such as Zaxby’s, Mo’s, etc for the best taste.
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Atlanta Native
July 12th, 2009
5:45 pm
Excellent job Meredith! I knew you would nail the fast food review.
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Mark
July 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
Chipotle is the only one on your list that I will eat at – it beats the pants off Willy’s or Moe’s. Each time I have eaten at Moe’s the rice has been undercooked and the guac and other ingredients were way past their prime when they went onto my burrito.
The Varsity is disgusting and really overpriced. I don’t understand the appeal and seriously doubt that very many people who have eaten there actually like it. Its too bad there are no In-and-Out burgers on this side of the country – I bet it would be a big hit here as fast food seems to be very popular down here.
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ANYBODY......?
July 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
varsity……hot dogs
micky dees…french fries
chickfila….chicken salad sandwich
taco bell….mexican pizza
wendys…….frosty,nuggets
krystal……mini burger
steak&shake..cheeseburger
popeyes……spicy chicken,biscuits,cajun rice
arbys……..roast beef,vanilla milkshake
kfc……….corn on cob,cole slaw
zaxbys…….parmesean chick strips sandwich
lil ceasrs…pizza
me………..hungry and happy!
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AJ
July 12th, 2009
7:48 pm
Agree with everything but Chipolte. They only use greasy thigh and leg meat. Prefer Moe’s who uses white meat.
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ATLien
July 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
Burgers – I used to think In N Out was the best until 5 Guys came to Atlanta.
Fries – The shoe string fries at Steak N Shake are the best
Chipotle and Qdoba are so much better than Moe’s and Willy’s
Nothing beats Chick-Fil-A for their food and service.
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unclefast
July 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
The Chigago dogs at Beejays Hot Dogs in Carrollton, GA. OUTSTANDING!
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Marcus Graham
July 12th, 2009
9:45 pm
VOMIT! on all the top 5!
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del
July 12th, 2009
10:20 pm
Funny thing-got together with friends and all wanted to go to Eno since two of them had yet to experience Chef Eli’s food. Well, as usual, he did not disappoint. EVERY single item that we ordered was creative,interesting and delicious. This boy can cook, and we all left full and very satisfied. I can’t wait for Aug.26th. It’s going to be quite a ride. All three are superb samples of what Atlanta is turning into foodwise. They are a group to be recond with, but I’m pulling for Chef Eli.
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Rodney
July 12th, 2009
11:35 pm
@Car-less … I’m up for a road trip for some tasty doughnuts … sounds like a perfect way to spend a Saturday afternoon.
I miss getting Illy at Eatzi’s (actually, I miss lots of things at Eatzi’s).
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 13th, 2009
7:21 am
Thanks Car-less!
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Where is the best place to get produce in and around Atlanta? | Best Of The Big A
July 13th, 2009
7:30 am
[...] To many of us, summer means a bevy of fresh produce. It’s a bonanza of cantaloupe, watermelon, peaches, berries, cherries, okra, summer squash, beans and tomatoes. And for some Southerners, that last juicy beauty stars in a simple delicacy that is a highlight of the season. Check out this great Southern summertime treat that our food blogger John Kessler discovered in recent days. For those who’d rather let someone else prepare summer’s bounty, take a look at dining critic Meridith Ford Goldman’s list of five restaurants with great seasonal veggies. [...]
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Adam
July 13th, 2009
10:36 am
In an article about veggies, the salad is marketed with bacon?
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Barbara
July 13th, 2009
11:03 am
Matthews Cafeteria in Tucker and the Rexall Grill in Duluth. Good home cooking!!!
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Greg
July 13th, 2009
11:11 am
Los Hermanos on Hugh Howell Rd.
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caren goode
July 13th, 2009
11:23 am
Amalfi, used to be Salvitore’s, in Roswell
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agent5
July 13th, 2009
11:34 am
Woodfire Grill, Cheshire Bridge.
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michelle
July 13th, 2009
11:39 am
Porto Bello in Suwanee (Scales Rd.) Small restaurant,wonderful Italian food, exceptional service.
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Bill
July 13th, 2009
11:44 am
The Bridge Mexican Gourmet. Alpharetta Hwy, Roswell. Fresh ingredients. Best Mexican in Atlanta!
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banana
July 13th, 2009
11:47 am
*mg* – John Boys? That place is disgusting! Yeah, it’s great if you want cheap, mass produced, institutional quality canned vegetables. For that, I’ll go to Picadilly!
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SPEAK-So-EASILY
July 13th, 2009
12:01 pm
Popeye’s @ the corner of Ponce and Blvd!!!!!!
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bubba
July 13th, 2009
12:16 pm
How about the Golden Corral or Waffle House…love to see Meredith’s comments on these fine eatin’ establishments!
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joe
July 13th, 2009
12:21 pm
C’mon guys! Are we taking this recycling thing too extreme? I personally juggle my oranges to the checkout! Ok, I do concede that there needs to be a recyclable solution to these bags but $7.50 for three bags? BTW, for those who do their due diligence by using canvas bags – remember to WASH THEM occasionally! I wash them at least once a week with bleach.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 13th, 2009
12:23 pm
Bubba: Never been to Golden Corral. Love Waffle House.
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Pam
July 13th, 2009
12:25 pm
I would love to see a review for “Uptown Cafe” located in historic Lawrenceville. It’s a mediteranean restaurant. Seating is VERY limited. I would suggest going for lunch on Saturday (menu is the same all day).
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Josh
July 13th, 2009
12:34 pm
Tacqueria Los Hermanos
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Garry
July 13th, 2009
12:39 pm
Tadka Square in Alpharetta
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sharon
July 13th, 2009
12:45 pm
Annie Lauries on Highway 85 in Riverdale. The yams are “to die for”
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Tea
July 13th, 2009
1:13 pm
May Macs, for vegetables? Are you kidding? They gave up all their nutrients after the first 2 hours of cooking. Then the final 3 hours just cooks in enough fat and salt to put them in the same nutritional category as fast food.
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mims
July 13th, 2009
1:25 pm
anne’s on memorial
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trudi
July 13th, 2009
1:34 pm
I always find creative cooking ideas and a wide range of veggie choices at the DeKalb Farmer’s Market cafeteria.
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phar71
July 13th, 2009
1:39 pm
I said Le Petit Maison in Sandy Springs last time, and hoped to have tried it myself before this round, but still have not been!
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RK
July 13th, 2009
2:27 pm
Tsk tsk, phar
I’ll throw Brooklyn Cafe in again, as well, but it might qualify for more of a neighborhood joint. Not for me to decide!
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Bayou Connoisseur
July 13th, 2009
3:57 pm
Yes, I second ebwinn’s comments: Quinnie’s in Vista Grove shopping center on LaVista Rd. near Oak Grove Rd. –Traditional Southern soul food style vegetables.
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Bayou Connoisseur
July 13th, 2009
3:59 pm
As for raw produce, I suggest the Municipal Market or, at the other extreme, Whole Foods on Briarcliff at LaVista.
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James
July 13th, 2009
4:25 pm
Lov’n It Live (www.loviingitlive.com) in East Pointe, GA is where you’ll find the most comtemporary ideas of food preparation and presentation of tastefully and delectable combinations of Mother Earth’s vegetable and fruit surprises. The creativity and imagination is boundless when considering the adventures available. And with todays’ health conscious connoisseurs spinning the various myths about what’s the best experience and/or encounter around town, I would imagine the adventures provided by Lov’n It Live (raw like you would never believe) would be unmatched. Dare to be adventurous and “Try It” with ample time and patience.
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candy
July 13th, 2009
4:36 pm
John Boy’s should be closed down!!.. Anyone seeking veggies should seek elsewhere. My mother’s and grandmother’s kitchens service up the best veggie dishes. I know you all wanted to know of a place where the masses could go but honestly I can’t think of one.
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Gville Resident
July 13th, 2009
4:44 pm
It was the Georgianna Restraunt in Gainesville back in the day. Everything was homemade and it was gooooood!
Nothing compares.
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JDJ
July 13th, 2009
5:04 pm
The Colonnade on Cheshire Bridge — been going there for about 50 years now and the veggies keep us coming back. (Not to mention the fried chicken)
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Odessa Hooker
July 13th, 2009
7:54 pm
Report on BUCA di BEPPO on Mansell Rd in Alpharetta. This southern Italian restaurant serves the crispest salad with Granny Smith apples!
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harcoutbreton
July 13th, 2009
8:09 pm
Wee, another great season. For me, summer is like peaches season, something I’ve been looking forward to. I like peaches so much and peaches from Georgia is second to none and peach ice cream under a beautiful sunny summer day is the best day of the year, what a bliss.
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harcoutbreton
July 13th, 2009
8:10 pm
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sarfdawg
July 13th, 2009
10:22 pm
How to celebrate? Hmmm…how about learning how to say, “I surrender,” in French.
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majordawg
July 13th, 2009
10:36 pm
Tanning my armpits.
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sarfdawg
July 13th, 2009
10:39 pm
Majordawg, is that before or after braiding your armpit hair?
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Diane
July 13th, 2009
10:42 pm
LOVE VERDE. Fish Taco is the best! Great margaritas too!
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sarfdawg
July 13th, 2009
10:44 pm
Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a crepe! Apparently no one else does as it took 10 hours for anyone to comment on this article.
(I love French jokes – I could go all night!)
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majordawg
July 13th, 2009
10:57 pm
Lord knows there won’t be any deoderant to deter the braiding.
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Wcrew
July 13th, 2009
11:03 pm
In the words of General Patton ” I would rather have an German Division in front of me than to have a French Army Behind”
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:04 pm
“I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me.”
—General George S. Patton
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:07 pm
Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.
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Wcrew
July 13th, 2009
11:15 pm
How does the saying go
Raise your right hand if you like the French.
Raise both your hands if you are French.
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:23 pm
Q: What does “Maginot” mean in German?
A: Welcome!
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Dan Payton
July 13th, 2009
11:24 pm
Q: How do you get a French waiter’s attention?
A: Start ordering in German.
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Dan Payton
July 13th, 2009
11:24 pm
Why wouldn’t the Statue of Liberty work in France? Because she has only one arm raised.
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sarfdawg
July 13th, 2009
11:26 pm
“France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.
France has usually been governed by prostitutes.”
—Mark Twain
I love that one!
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:26 pm
Q: What did France used to be called?
A: Germany, and then we saved them.
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:28 pm
Q: Why wasn’t Christ born in France?
A: Because they couldn’t find three wise men and a virgin.
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Dan Payton
July 13th, 2009
11:28 pm
Why wasn’t Jesus born in france? Because they couldn’t find three wise men or a virgin.
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Dan Payton
July 13th, 2009
11:30 pm
Q. Did you hear about France’s new weapons contracts?
A. They gave one to Ace Hardware to produce 250,000 wood sticks…they are still looking for a company to produce 250,000 little white flags.
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sarfdawg
July 13th, 2009
11:30 pm
This one’s for Majordawg:
“The last time the French asked for ‘more proof’ it came marching into Paris under a German flag.”
–David Letterman
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:38 pm
We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it.”
—- Marge Simpson
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conservadawg
July 13th, 2009
11:40 pm
“I just love the French. They taste like chicken!”
—- Hannibal Lecter
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Wcrew
July 14th, 2009
12:37 am
“I don’t know why people are surprised that France won’t help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn’t help us get the Germans out of France!” —Jay Leno
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Wcrew
July 14th, 2009
12:40 am
Q: What is the first thing the French Army teaches at basic training?
A: How to surrender in at least 10 languages.
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Wcrew
July 14th, 2009
12:40 am
Q: What is the most useful thing in the French Army?
A: A rearview mirror, so they can see the war.
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Wcrew
July 14th, 2009
12:41 am
Q: Why does Nike like the French Army?
A: Because, in war time, they are the biggest buyers of running shoes.
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Wcrew
July 14th, 2009
12:51 am
Q: How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
A: Nobody knows, it’s never been tried.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
6:50 am
While all this has been very amusing (NOT), I’d suggest that we stick to French food in Atlanta for the topic. Perhaps you guys should start your own blog.
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Random Stranger
July 14th, 2009
7:41 am
Well in case you haven’t figured it out Ms. Goldman, not too many of us that bleed red, white, and blue want to celebrate ANYTHING French. Your article just tapped into the anti-Franco feelings many of us Americans have. France is an ungrateful, overrated, annoying country. I would celebrate Bastille Day, but I don’t have anything yellow to wear.
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Pam
July 14th, 2009
8:08 am
Tous Les Jours Bakery on Lawrenceville-Suwannee Road in Gwinnett County has the BEST homemade frozen fruit pops.
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DHayDawg
July 14th, 2009
9:14 am
Q: What’s the favorite hymn of the French?
A: “I Surrender All”
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SPEAK-So-EASILY
July 14th, 2009
9:15 am
HAS FAB not gone out of business already? it’s a dead restaurant that sooner….rather than later will become a casualty of the economy. MF, no one cares about Bastille day.
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sarfdawg
July 14th, 2009
9:48 am
Ms. Goldman, you HAVE to admit that you at least smiled at some of these!
In all seriousness, France has done more to thumb its nose at the US (particularly militarily) over the course of history, that it’s hard to appreciate anything for which France is good.
Perhaps, Obama will improve relations between France and the US. They have a lot in common. They are both very comfortable bending over for the rest of the world…
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
10:28 am
I’m merely suggesting that we stay on topic, guys. And the topic is not politics or French jokes. It’s MFG, not MF, s’il vous plait.
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brett
July 14th, 2009
10:32 am
Why is the Champs Elysees lined in trees? Because the Germans love to march in the shade.
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brett
July 14th, 2009
10:33 am
So an old British General and an old French General are sitting around swapping stories, and the French General says, “So why you wear ze red coats? Are you not easier to see?”
And the British General answers, “Well, it’s quite ingenious, actually. If I were to get shot, the red blood would not show on my uniform, my troops would not despair, and they would continue on to win both the battle and the war.”
The French General reflects on this and then quickly barks to his aid, “Pierre! Quickly! Go and fetch me my brown pants.”
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chevre chien
July 14th, 2009
10:40 am
Perhaps, Obama will improve relations between France and the US. They have a lot in common. They are both very comfortable bending over for the rest of the world…
Sarfdawg, vous avez le cervau d’un sandwich au fromage. Look it up.
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Anton
July 14th, 2009
11:01 am
Would love to see a review of Maxwell’s on 54 in Peachtree City.
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sarfdawg
July 14th, 2009
11:02 am
chevre chien (Goat Dog?), I have the brain of a cheese sandwich? Wow. That one hurt.
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chevre chien
July 14th, 2009
11:19 am
How you English say? I unplug my nose in your general direction, you son of a window dresser! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
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Atlanta Native
July 14th, 2009
11:54 am
Recipe, Meredith, Recipe! Your pops sound good and we are headed to Florida. I would love to have a drink on a stick as I stare at the ocean. .
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Katharine
July 14th, 2009
12:08 pm
I really have no idea who these people are who contribute to Zagat’s reviews. I rarely have any crossover with them in terms of opinion. I find commentary from local food bloggers to be much more in line, typically, with what I like in a restaurant. How on earth Zagat’s could overlook Holeman & Finch is beyond me, and I’d put Restaurant Eugene ahead of Bacchanalia any day.
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RK
July 14th, 2009
12:37 pm
Sigh.
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Darin
July 14th, 2009
12:55 pm
FAB is my favorite place for french food in Atlanta, though it’s too pricey for me to visit it often. I also like Douceur De France in Marietta for french breakfast and lunch and, though it isn’t really a french restaurant, Cafe Intermezzo on Peachtree makes some great crepes.
Also, Peasant Bistro downtown has a french slant to its menu and I have enjoyed most everything I’ve had there.
Isn’t Trois closed?
I am of french descent and my wife and I are going to Paris later this year — my first visit. I’m excited. It’ll be difficult for me to resist planning the entire trip around restaurant visits.
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Stan
July 14th, 2009
2:04 pm
Ted’s Montana Grill??? Really? It’s been a couple of years since I was last there but I recall the meat being a little gristly and way too thin to make much of a meal. It all tasted like pre-cut, vacum sealed in the marinade, lower end chain fare. I would have given Ted’s 2 out of 5 at best and I’m a pretty low-brow kinda guy.
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sarfdawg
July 14th, 2009
2:31 pm
Darin, if you and some friends choose to mount an invasion, you should meet little resistance.
Just kidding. Enjoy your trip…
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annc
July 14th, 2009
2:54 pm
I’m with Meredith. I came here to find suggestions for French restaurants and found instead a series of rants against the French.
Thanks, Darin, for some useful information. And have a great trip to France. We’ve been several times and have had wonderful experiences there on every trip. We were in Provence on September 11, 2001, and the French were wonderful to us and to all the Americans there on that terrible day.
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Tyree
July 14th, 2009
3:15 pm
Zagat to me is nothing more than a guide for lazy tourist that don’t desire to do any research. However, I find other sites like Trip Advisor,and Yelp, offer more current information about local fare. Of course, Kudos to our favorite local restaurant critic here who also steers us in down the right dining path.
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Becky
July 14th, 2009
3:18 pm
Benita?
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Atlanta Native
July 14th, 2009
3:18 pm
I hate using Zagats due the the “poor” use of “quotations” and the “Illegible” “reviews” by people who don’t “know” corporate “food” from fresh food. “Many” other sources are “available” without “reading” through the “torturous” “reviews” with all the lame “quotes” and no “substance”.
I mean Maggiano’s? Come on Antica Posta, di Paolo, La Grotta. No reviews are ever needed for chains after the first one – or the new laminated menu comes in from the home office.
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reservoirDAWG
July 14th, 2009
3:24 pm
The rating means nothing to me.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
3:28 pm
RK: My sentiments exactly. Darin — ahhh … another sigh. I envy you! My favorite bistro is L’Ardoise — check it out if you have the chance.
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JW
July 14th, 2009
3:29 pm
I dine out most every night and have had the opportunity to meet many chefs and restaurant owners, while enjoying their food and service. To omit Holeman & Finch and many others is a crime. Ford Fry’s JCT Kitchen is a modern example of casual, elegant cuisine. The inclusion of Ted’s, Maggiano’s, and Carrabba’s is negligent at best. This extends the declining credibility of Zagat’s. I can eat Carrabba’s in Macon or Jacksonville; it has a profitable, yet uninventive, suburban model. Ask your concierge, not Zagat’s, for a recommendation.
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Val
July 14th, 2009
3:39 pm
Old school is coming back!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
3:44 pm
Atlanta Native: You are totally “cracking” me up — the quotations drive me crazy, too. They’re more annoying than reading the menu at the French Laundry. And thanks, Tyree!
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Claude
July 14th, 2009
4:00 pm
What a bunch of ignorant rednecks!
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Mike
July 14th, 2009
4:03 pm
Seems to me that the Zagat guide is being overrun with the Web 2.0 crowd that thinks that their opinions, no matter how inane, are of immense value. Since Zagat requires reviewers to have actually eaten in the restaurants, you don’t get the balance that you see in some “Best Of” lists, where people know that Bones is fantastic even if they’ve never actually eaten there.
It also gets into expectations – if someone gives a 30 to an unusally good meal at Maggiano’s, is it even physically possible for La Grotta to impress them as much?
The opposite end of this phenomenon is in the new Travel and Leisure magazine reviews of the best hotels – one or two raving reviews of a tiny B&B or a safari camp in Kenya and they push bigger, established, more accessible places off the list.
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Rachel Ray
July 14th, 2009
4:14 pm
I think I have a drinking problem…..Really.
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Jake
July 14th, 2009
4:18 pm
Rachel, I would give you back door food delivery and make you scream “yummo!!”
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Rachel Ray
July 14th, 2009
4:21 pm
Jake….You sure? I was once mistaken for a teen aged boy.
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Yuki
July 14th, 2009
4:24 pm
Amy W. Thank you for the correction! Is this Amy on Food, Amy?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
4:34 pm
Gee, “Rachel” and “Jake” — thanks for denigrating the topic so purposefully.
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BPJ
July 14th, 2009
4:43 pm
Obviously a few francophobes found an outlet for their venting – these jokes got pretty worn out in 2003, when France was trying to tell us that invading Iraq was a bad idea….(oops!) These rubes always forget that we were only able to win the Revolution with French help – and France was the first to offer help with the invasion of Afghanistan (the war that made sense, unlike Iraq), where French soldiers are still fighting (and occasionally dying).
Now, to get back on topic, you’ve listed the best French places in town (FAB, Trois, Atmosphere, Anis) except Joel, which I would rate the best. FAB is doing great business whenevr I go, so no, I think it will not be closing anytime soon. Babette’s is excellent, but I don’t think of it as primarily French.
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Rob
July 14th, 2009
4:43 pm
Hi Meridith, you should have a discussion about how annoying Rachel Ray really is, I bet the AJC server would crash from all the posts.
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Atlanta Native
July 14th, 2009
4:45 pm
Ok, I went to the link in the article (embarrassed look on my face) and there is no ration presented for the alcohol. Does any one know what percentage to go with?
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Rachel Ray
July 14th, 2009
4:46 pm
I’m sorry. I just had too much to drink at breakfast.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
4:49 pm
Atlanta Native: Are you sure? I just dbl checked and the recipes all call for a specific amount of alcohol (1 and 1/2 cups for the Bellini pops and 2 TBSP of citron vodka for the lemon cream pops).
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Darin
July 14th, 2009
5:09 pm
Thanks for the tip on L’Ardoise, Meredith. I’ll add that to our list of places to visit in Paris.
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Darin
July 14th, 2009
5:17 pm
You know, there was a time when I really did pay attention to Zagat’s but ever since this whole Internet thing became so well-populated with places to read about ATL restaurants, such as this blog, I really don’t even bother to look at it anymore. Much more reliable information comes from reading local critics and the reviews on places like Yelp.
I just went to the Zagat’s site and saw that Holeman & Finch did not make any of their ‘top’ lists. H&F is one of my top 5 fave restaurants in the city and it’s excellence is pretty well agreed upon by locals. My current #1 spot is Social downtown and that restaurant didn’t even have an entry of any kind on the Zagat site. Bizarre.
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Atlanta Native
July 14th, 2009
5:33 pm
I am clearly unable to follow links today, probably the jell-o shooters are slowing me down.
Rachel Ray snarfed the rest, so I’m sobering up now.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 14th, 2009
5:49 pm
Atlanta Native: HA! That made me laugh out loud!
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Carl Os
July 14th, 2009
6:27 pm
These Zagats and Wall Street Journal selections make me laugh. They are junk. All the hype of the Greasy burger off memorial drive that is awarded Americas best. Best what? Best place you wouldn’t want to eat without a tetnus shot. Laughable hipsters trying to be cool. Food reviews are always about connections and favors and are never to be taken seriously. Someone always has an agenda personal or professional. Zagats is to restuarant reviews what Elanor Ringel Gillespie is to movie reviews.To be ignored at all times.
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JEAS3
July 14th, 2009
6:36 pm
“Rachel” and “Jake” – you have the whole internet available to spew out your juvenile and inappropriate comments. Find a better forum for your unwanted dreck.
As far as Zagat is concerned, they obviously no longer take their mission seriously. Anyone that would list Carraba’s as belonging in the top 50 restaurants of any city with a population over 20,000 cannot possibly employ anyone with the title of Editor, let alone Critic. Holeman and Finch is an unforgiveable omission, and I’m sure that many other notable dining spots were overlooked as well.
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Atlanta Native
July 14th, 2009
6:46 pm
Carl,
Elanor Ringel Gillespie’s reviews are helpful. You just need to decode them. If she gives an F it is a B. If she gives a D it is an A. If she gives a B it is an F. If she gives a A it is a D. If she gives it a C, she didn’t actually watch the movie.
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Rhett
July 14th, 2009
7:35 pm
Elenaor Ringel Gillespie is a gnome. Ever hear her on 1690am? On second thought. never mind. She is the Ray Goff of movie reviewers.
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Huckburge
July 14th, 2009
10:41 pm
Can’t wait for those Dutch Monkey Donuts!
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zaq
July 14th, 2009
11:09 pm
Chevy’s Diner in McDonough! Best Hamburgers and 50’s diner on the south side of Atlanta
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Rachel Ray
July 15th, 2009
8:56 am
I love mimosas in the morning. If I could only find my smokes.
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Stan
July 15th, 2009
8:58 am
Why would you not wash them as often? Could true paper plates not be composted? I’m all for being a little “greener” but ONLY if it really is logical and this doesn’t seem to be IMHO.
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Drew
July 15th, 2009
9:49 am
You’re correct Stan, paper plates are also biodegradable but the idea here is that you can reuse them (albeit not many times) and they require less energy, resources, and chemicals to construct versus paper or plastic plates. The “less energy” is the real kicker here, I think. Besides, don’t they look awesome?
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Turd Ferguson
July 15th, 2009
12:37 pm
And yet another stupid idea.
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Mireille
July 15th, 2009
12:48 pm
Pearson Farm peaches are the best!
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LizDawg
July 15th, 2009
12:50 pm
I prefer Jaemor’s near Lula, especially their Georgia Belle’s! Lic-smackin’ good & juicy!
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RK
July 15th, 2009
1:02 pm
I don’t think that Joel was doing anything special yesterday, though (I thought about it as I drove up 75 last night). For anyone that thought Joel was too expensive to enjoy, they have revamped the menu Bistro-style, and they have specials weekday nights.
For the francophiles, I would suggest going to Star Provisions and getting Delice de Pommard, a triple creme goat cheese wrapped in red-wine soaked mustard husks. At about $18 for 7 oz, it is expensive, but it is the best cheese I’ve ever had. One warning, though — Star did not have it there a few weeks ago.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 15th, 2009
1:05 pm
Hi guys, in addition to it being completely off-topic, Eleanor is a friend and former colleague. So could we stay on topic, please?
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Darin
July 15th, 2009
2:15 pm
RK: thanks for the tip on Joel. I just took a look at their lunch menu online and saw that they do have some nicely-priced items that look interesting.
On the down side, I also peeked at the bar menu and saw a disturbing sight that is too common in fine dining places — crazy beer prices. $7 for a bottle of Amstel Light? There are stores in town where you can buy a six pack of it for less. Just a glass of tap water for me, please.
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Dark Helmet
July 15th, 2009
2:19 pm
If they can be re-used, you are washing them…why not use regular plates on pizza night?
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reservoirDAWG
July 15th, 2009
2:23 pm
Why not just all hunch over the pizza box you’re going to have to recycle anyway?
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Dark Helmet
July 15th, 2009
2:31 pm
What happended to Applebees? What, with Tyler Florence’s dumba$$ pimping their stuff they couldn’t make the list?
I think Zagat uses complicated algorithims and geometric devices to produce their ratings instead of actually tasting the food.
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Dark Helmet
July 15th, 2009
2:31 pm
Javo, Dark Helmet.
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Eleanor Ringel Gillespie
July 15th, 2009
6:19 pm
If your goal was to make me cry, then mission accomplished.
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Cory
July 15th, 2009
7:42 pm
It would be wonderful if they could incorporate a healthy dark chocolate like Xocai into the product line. Xocai has a healthy cold processed dark chocolate that tastes great and is great for you. No added refined sugar! For more information try out lovemyxocai.com and take the tour.
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Rachel Ray
July 16th, 2009
10:30 am
I like pizza and beer…..Lots of beer!
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Dave Johnson
July 16th, 2009
10:31 am
I use these actually (I featured them on my blog as well) and think the idea is that what they are made of is a “byproduct” of the growth process of a bamboo plant (the sheath), and culling it doesn’t harm the plant, so it’s COMPLETELY sustainable, as opposed to paper that’s ordinarily used. There are times disposables are necessary, or at least preferred, so these are a good option, and I agree, they look good. I personally use them when I entertain outdoors (mainly beach picnics) and don’t want to lug dirty dishes home (and I don’t usually reuse these). Ordinary paper plates don’t look special enough so these fill the bill perfectly. I do agree with the poster that said when at home, just use real plates… why use disposable?
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Rachel Ray
July 16th, 2009
10:34 am
Uhhhh……So what? Crazy Canadian collects bees.
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Rachel Ray
July 16th, 2009
10:38 am
Taco Mac…..I love it because they have all those beers!
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Josh
July 16th, 2009
10:44 am
Honey bees are endangered these days due to some disease aren’t they? It’s great when someone has a hobby they really enjoy that just happens to be productive and good for the environment.
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imjustduckie
July 16th, 2009
10:47 am
uh…Rachel, honeybees pollinate about a third of the food we eat. and it’s important that chefs (and others) start playing a role in farming them. We are losing huge numbers to Colony Collapse Disorder. So unless you want to rely on cheetos and twinkies out of the vending machine you might want to perk up. Just a thought.
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imjustduckie
July 16th, 2009
10:50 am
for those that don’t want to drive to Cumming (I’m an ITPer) you should check out Sublime on 10th street near Northside Dr. They have some unique (and awesome) creations.
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Deanna
July 16th, 2009
10:52 am
I’m starting to think we could start a very productive eugenics effort based on reader postings about some of these AJC stories. Could users be forced to post their GPS coordinates instead of their email addresses?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 16th, 2009
10:55 am
Yes, and our honey bee population is also threatened by varroa mites, a pesty killer that was first discovered in the US in Florida back in the 1980s. We need all the bees we can get. I started a hive this spring, and it is a wonder. The bees are so docile and productive. Like chef Gerstenecker, I’m hoping to get at least 10 pounds — maybe 20 — of honey by the end of the summer. If you want to know more about keeping bees in the Atlanta area, you couldn’t meet a better group of people than the members of MABA (Metro Atlanta Beekeepers Association). Go to http://www.metroatlantabeekeepers.org for more info.
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zadi
July 16th, 2009
11:04 am
what an inspiring story!
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Paul From Milton
July 16th, 2009
11:26 am
My wife and I stayed at the Four Seasons for our wedding night and have stayed and visited there several times since. It is a wonderful place with an exceptional staff and is truly an asset to Atlanta.
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HK
July 16th, 2009
8:57 pm
Cafe Circa in the old 4th ward. Just met Chef Andre who just joined them. He came from rathbuns, nava and a few other fav spots around town. New menu is amazing!! just love it!!
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S. Johnson
July 17th, 2009
12:11 am
Fantastic food! The new it spot in midtown!
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Karl Hansen
July 17th, 2009
8:19 am
Great to hear and see food people keeping bees. One out of four bits of food that we eat is directly related to honey bees. Honey Bees are in real danger from mites and hive collapse disorder. We need more Urban Bee keepers and rural bee keepers.
My wife and I along with our two girls, ages 9 and 11, started keeping bees this spring. Urban bee keeping is going on more than the average person knows and is needed for local plant health and to support a falling – failing honey bee population.
We keep our bees in the Cincinnati area in a suburb – back yard. Yes it is safe and the bees are doing great and so are the people – no stings reported but lots of blooming flowers and gardens all around our house.
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Joia Restaurant And Lounge Opens In Midtown, Atlanta: Raw And Then Some [First Impressions] | Atlanta Restaurant Reviews | Atlanta Food Blogs | Dining in Atlanta
July 17th, 2009
8:31 am
[...] out like the three dishes we sampled, it means that there is no single reason to visit. As noted in other reports, the menu seems a touch Tuscan and touch contemporary American. In the middle, it’s muddled [...]
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Corysta
July 17th, 2009
9:12 am
I just tried clicking on the link to vote and it told me that it was an invalid link until I removed the extra spaces at the end of the URL – just a heads up in case anybody else has similar problems
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Darin
July 17th, 2009
9:16 am
Oh come on — why did you have to post that pic of the pupusas at Rincon? I love those things. Now there’s no way I’m going to eat the Lean Cuisine I brought to work with me. I’ll end up being bad again and going to Buford Highway for the greasy goodness (the cabbage salad stuff counters the oily pupusas well).
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Gale Walters
July 17th, 2009
9:41 am
really Rachel…crazy Canadian??? Shame on you……. you have come down a couple of notches in my respect for you.
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Dark Helmet
July 17th, 2009
10:07 am
Harolds has the best, but they have been stingy lately on the cracklins…BRING ON THE PORK FAT!!!
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Amy
July 17th, 2009
5:15 pm
Me and two other co workers went yesterday and had a great time! The short ribs were to die for, and the chef’s burger was out of this world. We felt very attended to, and the price was reasonable. Can’t wait to go again…next time dinner and dancing.
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Robert
July 17th, 2009
6:03 pm
Very good food, but I found the drink prices to be a little high.
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Melissa
July 18th, 2009
6:23 pm
My husband and I have been fans of Chef Brett since his days at Aria. We have eaten there weekly for 5 years now. We went to Joia the other evening because we love his cooking. The atmosphere although a little bright compared to Aria was still very tasteful. My husband enjoyed the short ribs while I ate the filet. The filet was fantastic. I also had Chef Brett’s signature salad the dressing was too die for. If you are going to out for a nice evening I would recommend Joia.
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Dave
July 18th, 2009
6:25 pm
The fries rock! And the beer is cold! Rock on Brother!
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Jazz
July 18th, 2009
7:38 pm
I can’t wait for this place to get busy on a weekend night! I was told a DJ was going to be brought in this weekend…I’m ready to party while enjoying some yummy food! The bar is awesome, and the food is the bomb!
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j b knows cornbread
July 19th, 2009
6:21 am
daddy d’z no question about it, best in the city
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harry wolters
July 20th, 2009
12:36 am
Great to see folks are beginning to keep bees in their back yards and roof tops too. I have four hives in my yard in Bisbee Arizona and recently have tired of taking the honey but keep ‘em for pollination and just for the joy of having them around. Even Obama has some in the garden area of the Casa Blanca. Everyone should have a hive to two.
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bamboo girl
July 20th, 2009
4:32 am
in asia, the bamboo materials are entered almost all family. most of the home would have the bamboo home decor , bamboo eating utilities, bamboo furniture etc. in japan, there is a chain store called natural kitchen where sell mainly the bamboo made kitchen utilities too. and people highly welcome of it, since in asia, people use the chopstick, and the chopstick are made with bamboo too.
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Sheena
July 20th, 2009
1:55 pm
Here is a list I found on Yelp with great nightly deals around town.
http://www.yelp.com/topic/atlanta-nightly-deals-where-do-you-go
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lisa anders
July 21st, 2009
9:20 am
if you want to dine OTP, check out Gwinnett Restaurant Week – July 27-30, 2009 – $21.21 plus tax for three course meal – 16 great restaurants including Sugo, Aqua Terra Bistro, SAB Bistro, Sperata, Dominick’s, The Melting Pot, Picasso Cafe Wine Bar, Park Cafe, The Thorn Tree, Kurt’s and many others! http://www.gcvb.org/restaurantweek
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Mike
July 21st, 2009
11:30 am
I hope they do better than my experience last year – won’t name the place (although it’s a small chain that’s recently closed locations in other cities). They treated us like second-class citizens for even wanting to LOOK at the Restaurant Week menu. The person I was with ordered from the regular menu and we were still shown disdain.
But in January, I went to Restaurant Week participants in New York that were world-famous and neither the service nor the portions were diminished.
Maybe we “don’t care how they do it up north,” but when a good Arby’s has better service than a white-tablecloth restaurant, we ought to consider starting…
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Wayne
July 21st, 2009
11:36 am
The link in the story isn’t working. The menus are here http://www.atlantadowntown.com/fun/restaurant-week/participating-restaurants
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jimbob
July 21st, 2009
11:45 am
Seems like I remember partaking when it was $20.02, $20.03, and that included tax… then it jumped up 25, 26…
Frankly, it’s not that great a deal, and I had pretty substandard meal at one place, that only offered a pasta, a pork (I don’t eat pork), and a chicken option. I got the chicken, which was dry and dusty.
Actually had a really good meal for RW about 5 years ago at Polaris, top of the Hyatt.
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DUH
July 21st, 2009
11:46 am
Meredith, I’ve fried it both ways..The one reason that I like it “tossed” is because I dip it in a sauce of 1000 Island and hot sauce…
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Tyree
July 21st, 2009
1:09 pm
Okra patties? Sacrilege. Okra is served tossed with a cornmeal coating and fried in a cast iron pan.
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Fried Okra Lover
July 21st, 2009
1:11 pm
Although Folks have delicious fried okra, Church’s Chicken’s fried okra is tops for me.
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Umm, Fried Okra
July 21st, 2009
1:18 pm
I have never had (or heard of) fried okra patties but they do sound good! I am originally from southwest Georgia and we toss okra slices in cornmeal and fry them up in an iron skillet!
Oh and 6 feet under has great fried okra. They fry it whole (or in half) and it’s so good.
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JACK
July 21st, 2009
1:20 pm
okra can only be fried after being tossed in cornmeal. does anyone know where to get Perkerson’s cm if it still exists?
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VoiceOf Reason
July 21st, 2009
1:24 pm
I don’t know about patties, but I buy it from the freezer section at publix and deep fry it. That’s right, I’m a yankee, but its delicious.
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LS
July 21st, 2009
1:28 pm
I’m Georgia born and raised and never heard of okra patties. Tossed is the way to go. Although I am willing to try the patties.
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LS
July 21st, 2009
1:29 pm
Lunch on Main in College Park has fried “tossed” okra just like my Mom used to make.
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TJ from the country
July 21st, 2009
1:33 pm
I grew up outside of Athens and my family always seasoned the okra with some type of season salt, dipped it in a milk and egg liquid, and then tossed it in self rising flour instead of cornmeal. To top it off, soak the okra with Texas Pete!
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Intown Neighbor
July 21st, 2009
1:33 pm
Both plus three more ways! I’m from South Georgia and my mom makes it just like you do into patties but omits the cornmeal and makes a very thin batter of flour and water only. I’m 45 and when I go home she usually has a platter waiting for me as it is one of my favorite Southern dishes! One grandmother used the ALWAYS delicious slice, salt, LIGHTLY dust in cornmeal and skillet fry method. The other sliced the okra and just salted it and cooked it in a skillet on low for quite a while in a little bacon grease – don’t overstir if you try this. Of course, it is FABULOUS this way! Finally, my aunt cuts just the top tip off so the pod remains ’sealed’. She then puts it in a nonstick skillet with just barely enough water to cover the bottom of the pan. Then she lightly salts and peppers it, and cooks it covered (peek as little as possible – on a very low temperature until it has JUST turned from bright green to a darker green – very healthy, no fat, and delicious as well! Finally, we sometimes put the pods on top of field peas when we cook those. I LOVE all these ways and would definitely ask for one (or more!) at my last meal!
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reservoirDAWG
July 21st, 2009
1:52 pm
Lightly dredged in flour and fried in a cast iron skillet. Mom would be proud.
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T
July 21st, 2009
1:58 pm
I was born and raised here and we used the “tossed” method. Grandmother also boiled okra…just slides right down. Fried was my favorite though.
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Marsha
July 21st, 2009
2:04 pm
What is an okra patty???? I’ve eaten fried Okra my whole life, never heard of a patty? I am a born and raised Southern Girl.
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MR. Unknown just in case Grandma is here!!
July 21st, 2009
2:06 pm
Me hate okra, Im an offical Okra hater.. Im from south GA and my family ate Okra like it was the best thing in the world,,,Me and my brother oblviously thought different,, I hate Okra so much that I became a professional at misdirection,, I would tell everyone to look over there while I scraped the filth off my plate… Fried, boiled, steamed, chopped up, covered in whatever sauce that i could find, resturants best dish,, it doesn’t matter.. Its nasty!! yuck, pfffff,,eww… Sorry guys I was forced to eat it as a kid, had a flash back!
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from Marietta
July 21st, 2009
2:16 pm
My mom hates okra as does most of the rest of my family so sadly…I’m 24 and I’ve never even tasted okra.
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Melodie
July 21st, 2009
2:17 pm
The best is sliced thin – only 1/4″, then salt & peppered & tossed in a little cornmeal. Then, fry it in Crisco. The secret is making sure the shortening is hot enough so the okra dances on top. It gets real crispy this way and never greasy. Wouldn’t it be great if the movie theaters sold fried okra instead of popcorn!? I used to work with a woman who did make patties, though and hers were delicious. I never was able to replicate it, though. Any clues?
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Liz
July 21st, 2009
2:23 pm
Never heard of patties. Tossed in cornmeal, fried in an iron skillet and topped off with hot sauce!
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Tracy
July 21st, 2009
2:29 pm
Born and raised here. Never had heard of the patty method for okra, sounds good though. We slice the top off the pods, slice the pod in thin slices and cook in an iron skillet or non-stick skillet with Canola oil oover moderately high heat, so it doesn’t saok up the oil. After frying salt lightly to taste.
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GO HAWKS
July 21st, 2009
2:45 pm
Believe it or not, the best in town is the Earl in East Atlanta. Best I ever had. Runners up are Matthews Cafeteria in tucker, 6 Feet Under, and Marlows (fried whole).
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jimmy
July 21st, 2009
2:45 pm
tossed,the best way
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Cincinatti Bowtie
July 21st, 2009
2:55 pm
Put the Okra in a bag with flour and coat; heat crisco in pan and let okra fry in the that. Don’t mess with it too much, let it brown on both sides. NO PATTIES.
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Hippichick45
July 21st, 2009
3:04 pm
Central Florida native (family originally from South Georgia.) Simply dredged in flour, lightly salted and fried in a cast iron skillet. Favorite veggie plate always has fried okra, along with tomato gravy & white rice, cream-style corn, baby lima beans, yellow squash and cornbread…. YUM!! Love okra… we used to can Okra & Tomatoes in the summer to eat on cold winter nights
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Rodney
July 21st, 2009
3:52 pm
<—– South Georgia, just about to the Okefenokee
I’m all about trying the patty-method. That’s new to me but it seems like something I might like plus, you can really load a patty down with other flavors if you want (as opposed to the little 3/4 inch okra nuggets most folks are used to).
I’m betting something Indian-ey would be good mixed up in there …
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Rodney
July 21st, 2009
3:55 pm
I gotta say – I’ve not been this excited about a film since Star Trek a few months ago. From what I’ve seen, Meryl Streep is a dead-on ringer for Miss Julia.
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Otto
July 21st, 2009
3:59 pm
Tossed in the iron skillet and you can’t buy good Okra at a National Chain.
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joe
July 21st, 2009
4:32 pm
Meridith, how about reviewing the reopened 57th Figher Group next to PDK? Heard that it reopened and hoping that they continue the tradition of serving great beer-cheese soup and escargot. They also used to serve a great prime rib.
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E
July 21st, 2009
5:24 pm
Never heard of okra patties and while they don’t sound bad seem like a waste of effort when “tossed” (which I never heard of either until this entry) is so good.
If you want to fry some cornmeal, make hoe cakes/cornbread patties to serve with the okra. And while fried is good, so is boiled and sauteed (blackened, really) in a skillet with a little cajun seasoning. Oh, and okra with tomatoes, I could go on and on…yum.
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howard
July 21st, 2009
5:39 pm
Fried okra-cut both ends of the okra and slice it across the length of the okra.Mix the sliced okra with cornmeal and flour and add a little water to make a batter.mix in a bowl and add little salt and pett pepper.deep fry like fish therefore both sides will be cooked evenly.Enjoy
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Darren In the Springs
July 21st, 2009
5:43 pm
My grandmother and mother alwyays sliced it up, tossed it and fried it up in a skillet. Like a few that have already posted, I have never heard of or seen an okra patty. I love okra, but have not lived in GA since 1989 after I joined the military. I could occasionally get some in Maryland, but only when it bruised up real bad. Now that I live in Colorado it is a little hard to find in the market. Buying it frozen just doesn’t cut it, but it helps me get by.
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Darren In the Springs
July 21st, 2009
5:44 pm
Should have said “only when it wasn’t bruised up real bad.”
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Tone LaRone
July 21st, 2009
5:53 pm
Howard, I agree with your method and I fry them the exact same way. But when I want a good fried okra in a meal, Annie Mae’s On Thornton Road just past Six Flags makes “Big Ma” proud.
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Mort Merkel
July 21st, 2009
5:57 pm
Just discovered this week that the best way to do it is to fry the whole spears, including a little stem at the end to use as a handle. Even my Yankee wife liked it that way.
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preston
July 21st, 2009
6:05 pm
I would try the patties sounds good. Fried tossed with creamed corn on top with garden sliced tomatoes is all you need for areal meal.
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Native Atlantan
July 22nd, 2009
11:14 am
I love okra….Anyway but raw! I love patties, sliced or whole… fried with mixture of cornmeal + flour, s/p. Dip in egg yolk/milk combo. I have even put a bit of cayenne into flour/meal mix for some kick… Great as appetizer with remoulade sauce too. Fry and drain on paper bag or paper towels. Yummy! I love it in vegetable soup and gumbo in the fall and winter and I adore pickled okra , hot or mild. They make a great garnish for a Bloody Mary! From the list of postings, it appears that most responding really like it…the others obviously have had a bad experience..and it’s ok for them not to like it…leaves more for the rest of us.
Yes, Church’s okra is very good. I buy a Family box…bring it home, place warm on paper towels to remove some of grease… then transfer to plain cookie sheet… put in freezer uncovered until frozen. When frozen, pour into zip lock bag or freezer container…and heat in oven…without all the frying mess. I do the same when I set up fryer on outside on my patio and make lots to freeze for later.
SmokeJacks in Alpharetta also has great fried okra and fried dill pickles. It’s worth the drive for me from Marietta!
I thought I had my meal planned tonight…now I’m adding okra to the menu! Okra is also a beautiful plant to grow..but “sticky” to pick.
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red
July 22nd, 2009
11:27 am
From Roswell – Dad ate it boiled, mom liked it fried, the tossed way w/cornmeal.
I personally love with tomatoes cooked like a gumbo.
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BethC
July 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
Another variation is grilled okra. I mix it with other veggies (squash, eggplant, mushrooms, onions), add a bit of olive oil and salt and put it on the grill. Delicious
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Wanda
July 22nd, 2009
1:44 pm
Love me some okra. About anyway is good to me. Fresh Frozen is good and is already battered and ready to fry. I like the idea of buying at church’s and freezing it.
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EP
July 22nd, 2009
1:59 pm
WHAT in the world is an okra patty? How do you make it? Born and bred Southern gal right here, and mom always lightly salted it, tossed it in corn meal and fried it in the electric skillet. (I use a cast iron skillet!)
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Atl Starter
July 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm
What the heck are chow chows?
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mford
July 22nd, 2009
3:12 pm
Atl Starter: they’re kind of a cross between a pickle relish and a pickled salsa. Pretty common stuff on Southern tables.
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Atl Starter
July 22nd, 2009
3:18 pm
Thanks, mfg. I’m from the West Coast. What do I know?
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Becky
July 22nd, 2009
3:38 pm
Meredith, I love to make homemade pickles..I have made dill pickles, bread and butter, sweet pickles and chow chow..I have also pickled green tomatoes…Yummy…I have a recipe for cinnamon cucumber pickles, I just haven’t tried to make them yet..
Atl Starter, if you want to try chow chow, please don’t buy it anywhere except at a roadside stand..This way you know it’s homemade..To me, this is the best kind..Hot chow chow..Goes great with dried beans (if you like them)…
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Rodney
July 22nd, 2009
3:57 pm
I’ve been getting almost daily e-mails (with pictures!) from my Mom (in south Georgia) of the “puttin up”. Mainly corn and peas so far, and as soon as her grapes come in, jelly.
It’s a multi-generational effort this year … my Grandma, Mom, Sister and her kids (they really don’t help but they’re there) … cousins, in-laws, etc.
“Puttin up” may not be that mysterious, but it sure is laborious when you get out at 6:30am and break corn or pick peas then spend most of the day preparing them for the freezer! I remember those summer days quite well …
But if you all want to talk FUN, let’s revisit this topic around Thanksgiving for the syrup-makings. Basically, “puttin up” sugar-cane syrup. THAT’s a hoot to do.
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john
July 22nd, 2009
5:50 pm
Okra is great grilled. Buy smallish pods, not to big. Toss with a little oil, salt, pepper, that’s it. Grill it for a few minutes, turning every minute or so.
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LISA
July 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm
R u joking??? I have never heard of okra patties??
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Brian from Marietta
July 22nd, 2009
6:37 pm
What in the Sam Hill – okra patties???? So I’m picturing a fried patty that consists of a handful of sliced okra and looks like a cookie or fried green tomato slice? If it contains okra and is fried, I’m sure it doesn’t suck, but I think I’ll stick with the toss and fry method myself.
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Country Food Lover
July 22nd, 2009
6:52 pm
Okra patties? Not sure about that but I would love some fried green tomatoes with my fried okra. Mmmmmmm!
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clayton
July 22nd, 2009
10:42 pm
Meredith:
You probably won’t visit the subject again right away, but when you do, check out the incredibly light-fried version at Watershed in Decatur. Unique in my experience.
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david c
July 23rd, 2009
8:17 am
To dress in your best Garcia garb is not to wear faux hippie regalia. Pay attention to the photo. Dark, solid color t-shirts, dark slacks (or sweat-pants, the man was not a fashionista) and comfy oxfords were Mr. Garcia’s wardrobe choices.
Otherwise, thanks for the heads-up!
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 23rd, 2009
8:22 am
Well, David C, I stand corrected. Or sit. Whatever.
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Jennifer Lewis
July 23rd, 2009
10:48 am
Try the fried okra at D.B.A. in Vi-Hi it is great! They cut it lengthwise before frying in a this cormeal batter – yummy and fun to eat.
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Rachal Ray
July 23rd, 2009
10:52 am
I love this place….$3 vodka! WOOT….I mean YUMMO!
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Robin
July 23rd, 2009
11:31 am
Fried okra was one of my favorites,I tried it grilled,WOW my new favorite.Ladder it on 2 wooden skewers brush with olive oil,grill til it starts to slide on skewers,salt and eat while hot
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Rodney
July 23rd, 2009
11:35 am
Ok Meridith – I ask just one thing – when he decides to braise it with tomato and basil PLEASE try and post the date because I’m so there.
Can you imagine as a side to a roasted chicken? Oohhh … it’s too early to have these pangs …
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Steve
July 23rd, 2009
12:16 pm
Shake it, shake it Sugaree RIP Jerry, you are missed.
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JimATL
July 23rd, 2009
12:44 pm
Reader Richard Touch? Is he related to reader Michael Hunt?
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reservoirDAWG
July 23rd, 2009
12:50 pm
Will they be serving pot brownies for dessert?
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Hagood
July 23rd, 2009
12:50 pm
david c u r what i like to call a douche…
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Spearchucker
July 23rd, 2009
12:57 pm
Good call David. And I think what the ‘author’ probably meant to say was ‘thanks for the insight, next time I’ll look at the picture before using worn-out cliches.’
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beaux
July 23rd, 2009
1:18 pm
thanks for the info, Meredith, it should be a great time!
david c………you may be right, but lighten up, dude.
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GTPHISH
July 23rd, 2009
1:21 pm
Sounds fun!
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xtc091157
July 23rd, 2009
1:25 pm
I disagree about Garcia being “no fashionista” – I have a closet full of Garcia ties that never fail to get a positive comment every time I wear one. I highly recommend picking one or two up for the special occasion.
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roughart2009
July 23rd, 2009
1:27 pm
Got God Gang
excuse me me me me while i make some
( ( ( ( noise ) ) ) ) in and out, my balcony is the fire escape two columns in view eye(s) open vcu thinking about a country song this ain’t love shack it’s my tool shed all about love turnin’ to hate verse one, what are we fighting for, don’t know don’t giva a d…….this ain’t vietnam the enemy is here on my father’s land…… new song more later……
verse two
Jesus said
” it’s not what goes in the mouth that defilieth man but what comes out of his mouth ”
this iz not a white XflagX i’m not skeered
more later….
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joe
July 23rd, 2009
1:31 pm
david c – wow, did someone forget to eat his pot-laced wheaties this morning? mellow out dude!
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mr. mike
July 23rd, 2009
1:31 pm
Enter your comments here
Jerry, we still miss you, brother.
Thanks for the update, Meredith; sounds like it should be a fun gig.
Maybe I’ll bring my wife from Chino & one from Cherokee.
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kurt cobain
July 23rd, 2009
1:42 pm
I’m Grateful they’re Dead
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mford
July 23rd, 2009
2:35 pm
Rodney: I think he’s working that up this week, fyi.
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Dead HTR
July 23rd, 2009
3:01 pm
When Jerry died, all those people had to get a job and shower thank god. Also if you were not alive for the DEAD, skip the tie dies kiddies. I second Cobain
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Rodney
July 23rd, 2009
4:12 pm
Thank you! Now begins the “who want to go to 4th and Swift Saturday night” e-mail …
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Benton
July 23rd, 2009
4:55 pm
Actually, it seems that your “snappy team of designers” is simply trying to do something different without consideration of utility. The stars still come out as boxes on many machines. You’ve forgotten that function should dictate form, not the other way around. But what do I know?
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Alex
July 23rd, 2009
6:23 pm
Yes, I have to agree. In all the publications I’ve seen (including this one), the hollow stars indicate the total star rating possible, and the black stars indicate how many stars have been assigned. Why do things differently now? I think the designers are being stubborn and ultimately unhelpful to readers by not changing this back around. Even though there’s a ratings guide at the bottom of the post for clarification, the immediate impression is the one that counts. And the immediate impression on that Abattoir review is “One Star.” Not helpful. Please strongly consider changing it back. Thanks.
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ronkerney
July 24th, 2009
1:44 am
Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse in the Emabssy Suites Hotel downtown is also participating.
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Benton
July 24th, 2009
12:31 pm
Well said, Alex. At least you can see the stars! But, yes, if the stars appear as described it makes no sense whatsoever. White stars on a white background indicate total number possible. Why don’t the designers reverse all the sentences in a given story, since many people read from the bottom and scroll up?
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Ron Eyester
July 24th, 2009
3:03 pm
Thanks for the mention Meredith…While I’ve certainly been entertained by today’s barrage of comments…I would like to remind everyone that my inspiration for continuing with this annual dinner is not to exploit Jerry’s fashion prowess (or lack thereof), but to celebrate the music and the spirit of community in which Jerry was certainly a pioneer. Especially in these times of turbulence and struggle, the many people who will join us on August 5th & 6th will be able to rejoice in the fact that they will be able to leave their anxieties and worries in the car and become a part of something that is bigger than themselves; for at least a few hours.
PS – “Dead HTR” – Incidently, while I have indeed been a fan of the Dead and Jerry for some 15 years, I have remained employeed throughout this entire tenure and have showered at least once a day.
PPS – David C – please stop by the restaurant this weekend for a mind eraser, we should have some Dead playing; perhaps the tunes will aid in relaxing you!
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sansho1
July 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
Feast in Decatur is another great venue for al fresco dining.
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Tom
July 25th, 2009
1:12 am
What else will our wonderful govt regulate? Get out of our lives, liberals!
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Ttom
July 25th, 2009
11:39 am
Havana will open this summer same location same food call for more info 404-636-4094 Best Cuban sandwich in Atlanta
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Art
July 25th, 2009
10:39 pm
Friday night at the Varsity… curbside… windows rolled down… car hop tray in place… now that’s Atlanta’s finest al fresco dining… extra onions, please.
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Stan
July 27th, 2009
10:55 am
lol “cottage” industry. That was “cheesy”. Could really “milk” this one for puns.
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John Doyle Atlanta
July 27th, 2009
11:35 am
The best al fresco dining? Any establishment in Inman Park.
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July 27th, 2009
11:54 am
[...] Chophouse Opens Thursday | Table Talk Syndicated from Abattoir Chophouse Opens Thursday | Table Talk.Abattoir Chophouse, Anne Quatrano and Clifford Harrison’s ode to the slaughterhouse, is scheduled [...]
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July 27th, 2009
11:56 am
[...] in Midtown Opens, plus the Clermont up for sale Syndicated from Livingston in Midtown Opens, plus the Clermont up for sale.Anne Quatrano has confirmed with me through her PR firm that Abattoir, the Bacchanalia maven’s [...]
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July 27th, 2009
11:59 am
[...] Raps on Straits | Table Talk Syndicated from Ludacris Raps on Straits | Table Talk.And Food & Wine magazine just unleashed a ten-page high glossy spread about Straits, including [...]
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July 27th, 2009
12:01 pm
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MJ
July 27th, 2009
12:31 pm
This is an annual favorite for me, regardless of the price increase. I go to FAB downtown and enjoy their skate wing, which is typically about $22, so it’s a great deal. I’m checking out BLTSteak this year as well.
These restaurants need the business so I doubt you will get much attitude this time around. Still, I would like to see what people think after this year’s version has run its course.
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Elvis Prez
July 27th, 2009
1:09 pm
Wahoo in Decatur is quite nice.
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Laila
July 27th, 2009
1:19 pm
DBA Barbecue on N. Highland has an awesome patio!
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Munch
July 27th, 2009
1:58 pm
Funny Stan, you don’t look Curdish.
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Dr. Watson
July 27th, 2009
2:50 pm
I like cheese.
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Melody
July 27th, 2009
2:57 pm
Wahoo in Decatur has the nicest outdoor dining. It’s like eating in a garden. The food is great AND they don’t allow smoking outdoors either. It’s the BEST!
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Old School
July 27th, 2009
3:30 pm
Beat an egg, drop in cut okra and stir until coated (adding a little more okra until all the egg is used but all the okra is coated). Then dredge with flour and deep fry- we use our fish cooker. You can add salt to the flour or to the cooked okra. It’s a departure from Mama’s iron skillet and cornmeal method but makes a nice crunchy crust. We do a bushel and freeze the cooked okra on pizza pans, then bag it up, into the freezer and we’ve got good eats for the winter.
And then there’s pickled okra, okra/tomatoes/corn, okra cooked with field peas, okra & tomatoes over rice. . . I’d go on but now I’m hungry!
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July 27th, 2009
3:56 pm
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Atlanta Native
July 27th, 2009
5:09 pm
The best, summer outdoor dining in Atlanta is eating a dripping tomato sandwich over the edge of your deck.
Best retro feast: draft beer, potatoes wonderful and a flower pot sandwich on the patio at Good Ol’ Days
I am finally going to the FAB after the rooftop review. Thanks!
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Rach
July 27th, 2009
10:42 pm
I am so sick of racial wars. I am a african american and I honestly have to admit that everyone has a point here. Yes, there are times when I am shame at some of the things that “we” do but I am equally ashamed at white americans that think every problem in society should be blamed on blacks and non-whites. You commit violent crime too, crimes that are down played, covered up and don’t make the news a lot of times.
As an African American, the one thing I would love for every white person to understand is the crimes that you see on the evening news where there are a rash of crimes being commited by young black boys is not just a ” black problem.” Regardless of what you think, the fact that we are all connected to one another here on this earth. Criminals are not born, they are created in our society. I grew up poor also and I’ve never robbed, stolen, or committed a violent crime. I am blessed to have had positive role models and people who cared about me in my life. So, so many are not as fortunate. Stop harping on the “result” of the problem and start becoming the solution. Young black boys between the ages of 6 – 11 are hungry for guidance and positive male role models that are missing from their lives. Become a big brother or big sister, get to know a poor, fatherless young black boy and you will understand that they are not born criminals they are young boys who have been failed by everyone. The streets will without a doubt become his role model. This is not a “black problem” this affects everyone in our communities. Don’t wait for it to be your problem after you’ve been car jacked by a 13 yr old boy. We are all responsible whether directly or indirectly for what goes on in our own communities.
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Mike D
July 28th, 2009
12:49 am
Wow. M.F. you must be running out of ideas for a blog. Is the next story about landscape company owners buying cases of Vienna Sausages and Saltines for lunch for their crews, so they won’t starve to death?
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RabidDawg
July 28th, 2009
9:11 am
The Treehouse in Peachtree Hills. Best outdoor brunch in town
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 28th, 2009
10:49 am
WOW, Mike D: It’s MFG, btw. And what a great idea, actually — what construction and landscape guys and gals pack in their lunch boxes. Thanks!
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John
July 28th, 2009
1:50 pm
About 5-7 years ago there was a place in Decatur near the square called Raleigh’s BBQ & blues. They served grilled okra, cooked over wood coals, I think. Small pods were tossed with a little olive oil and salt before giving them a slight char on the grill. Surprised me, as I found it quite tasty, and I am mainly a fried okra kind of guy. I have done it at home on my grill with good results. I see a few others have recommended grilled okra. Others should try it and I wish another restaurant would offer it, as it could be a distinquishing item to draw new customers. Raleigh’s closed not long after I found it.
Also have taken some of the vacuum fried okra chips from the Fresh Market stores to parties where they were a big hit.
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Alex
July 28th, 2009
4:56 pm
LOL … like I said: Stubborn. Look at the Abattoir page now. The four stars are still hollow, and the “out of a possible five” fifth star is a little asterisk! Oh, well, at least the designers’ eye-rolling bullheadedness is generating additional clicks for the review, right?
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Meridith Ford Goldman
July 28th, 2009
5:02 pm
Patience guys! I’m told they’re still working on it.
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Rodney
July 29th, 2009
10:22 am
I guess I haven’t noticed wings at the Roswell Rd. location because I don’t eat wings. I do, however, manage to empty a plate of Pig N Chik’s pulled pork about once a week.
Not to mention the crinkle cut french fries … fat and meaty and crispy (sounds like someone I know after a day at the beach …). A good friend loves the cole slaw. And the Brunswick stew is (thankfully!) the savory kind, not the sweet kind, and is quite tasty.
I guess I’m a fan …
So back on topic, I’m sure the wings are just as good as everything else.
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reservoirDAWG
July 29th, 2009
10:37 am
No, but the pork is good. I think I’ll go to the Chamblee location today.
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Melissa
July 29th, 2009
10:59 am
The ratings for this restaurant display as 5 empty square boxes.
Looks like it’s been given a “zero.”
Disappointing!!
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Rachel Ray
July 29th, 2009
11:21 am
Pig N Chik…..That was my nick name in college…..I need a bloody Mary
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Michele Niesen
July 29th, 2009
1:39 pm
Yes, Nolle, the Supper Club and Billy Goat’s Cantina—which is now Mezcalita’s!
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Lisa
July 29th, 2009
1:42 pm
Treehouse, Brio or Atmosphere
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reservoirDAWG
July 29th, 2009
2:32 pm
I went. Highly disappointed.
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mford
July 29th, 2009
2:40 pm
RDawg: Dangit. Tell us more …
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Shawn Smith
July 29th, 2009
4:07 pm
That place is still open, heck I went there, got a half pound, some fries and a shake and it was like 22.00 with tip. I could of gotten a steak somewhere.
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Dead HTR
July 29th, 2009
4:10 pm
Ron, I love your restaurant, I loved you at 101 Roswell Rd, just don’t know about the Dead thing
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Wing Lover
July 29th, 2009
4:21 pm
Did you try the Windward Parkway location reservoirDAWG? I don’t know anything about Chamblee, but the Windward Parkway location is AWESOME!!! The food is mouth watering, the wings are smokey and delicious — different than any I’ve ever had before. And the owners make you feel like you are at a small town BBQ joint, not lost in an anonymous big city suburb. GIVE WINDWARD PARKWAY PIG-N-CHIC a try and then let’s hear…
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reservoirDAWG
July 29th, 2009
4:22 pm
Ok, mford. Let me start by saying I cook competitive bbq in the MBN so I am biased. I have been there before and it was better. I had a pulled plate and without the sauce it had no flavor. The pork had no smoke ring or bark to speak of. I also got the small plate and it was $10 with a drink, a little pricey.
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reservoirDAWG
July 29th, 2009
4:24 pm
Wing Lover, I will. It is near my house. Also, the Chamblee location had wings, but it did not indicate if they were like the one’s described in mford’s article. I’ll let you know.
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You're just not getting it
July 29th, 2009
4:43 pm
Mike D, this is a food blog, for topics that interest people who love all things food. Therefore, this topic is completely within the parameters of the scope of the blog. I, and many others, are incredibly intrested in this movement, and find it exciting. So if this blog entry caters to the intended crowd (which it does, what’s the problem? It could be that this is not your thing, which is fine. But please, let us that do enjoy these topics to do so without the insults and derision that seems to be requisite on ajc blogs. (Steps off soapbox)
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Wing Lover
July 29th, 2009
4:56 pm
Please do, rDAWG! Obviously, I am a big fan. I don’t cook competitively, but I could be accused of eating competitively and I can assure you the Windward Pkwy. location is at the absolute top of my list — more people should know about it and go there!!
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Porky
July 29th, 2009
7:10 pm
None of the Pig-n-Chik locations have ever let me down, but the Windward location was a godsend for those of us who live nearby and can’t always make the drive to the other locations for our P-n-C fix!
Seriously, if you haven’t tried this new location, do it.
Everything is amazing, but if it’s your first time, order the ribs.
You’ll thank me later. Oink oink!
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Gwen Hough
July 29th, 2009
8:40 pm
I grew up in the 40’s and 50’s in Florida so I know about those pea picking days and syrup making days. Oh what memories. I have a big fig tree and getting ready to make some fig preserves. I also have a pear tree fixing to pick them and can some. I live in San Antonio,
TX close to Fredricksburg where they grow peaches. Hoping to get some and make me some pickled peaches. If anyone has a favorite recipe they would like to share I would appreciate it.
Gwen
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Game Warden
July 29th, 2009
9:31 pm
What about Ray’s on the river….
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dh
July 30th, 2009
8:39 am
While I often times don’t agree with all you say, I still think you should continue to offer up the good and bad. It’s not doing a restaurant any good to cover up the bad here…trust me, there are many other places around town (online and offline) where folks talk about these businesses in sometimes much less flattering detail. As long as comments are not trite, trivial, or mean spirited and stay constructive and fairly mainstream they should be valuable to both the diners and the owners who should always be looking for ways to improve. If you want to be kinder in a down economy, make it a point to go back to these places after 6 months so that you can give them a good review if they’re making good changes.
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Darin
July 30th, 2009
9:27 am
I think that by giving an honest assessment of a restaurant you are being kind to customer’s wallets during a recession. I’m trying to watch what I spend now more than I ever have before because I am dealing with less income as a result of being furloughed. If you were to dishonestly categorize an iffy restaurant as being great, then I might waste money there that I can’t afford to waste. I rely on restaurant critics to let me know where I can feel comfortable spending my money.
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Darin
July 30th, 2009
9:33 am
I’m no BBQ expert, but I can say that I go to the Chamblee location about once every couple of weeks for the pulled pork sandwich and I’ve never had a bad one. Some of the sides are better than others (I don’t care for their slaw) and the mac & cheese has had good days and bad days, but the pork has always been great. Also, I really like the sauces they have on the table. I usually mix all of them together on my sandwich.
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Rodney
July 30th, 2009
10:16 am
Where does it end? If you were to grade on a curve as it were, because of the economy, well, I see that being just as dishonest as favoritism would be.
The only change I could see would be to focus on local joints and dives for a while. Recession might be the perfect time to put the $25.00+ per person restos on hiatus and go for less spendy meals. EXAMPLE: I’ve never really seen many professional (not social media) reviews of the various pizza joints around town. I’m sure they’re out there but they certainly aren’t prominent.
Just my 2c.
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Lindsay
July 30th, 2009
10:43 am
If anything i would say during a recession food critics and restaurant critiques are more important. Although it’s just an opinion people are focusing now on money more than ever and eating out less. Therefore when they choose the meal to go out to that one night a week they should expect greatness. There are so many restaurants to choose from so why not be able to choose wisely? Keep up the reviews and people can take it for what it’s worth.
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Jenn
July 30th, 2009
11:16 am
I agree with everyone else. If you sugar coat a review then I may spend my money (that I am trying to ration) on a sub par meal. Not sure if it’s OK ethically, but what about discussing the review with the restaurant before printing? Certainly NOT change any opinions of the restaurant but maybe it would be less damaging in this economy if after you said something negative it was noted that “the GM or owner was aware of this and has plans to make changes to….” instead of just saying “here’s hoping they figure out they have too many things on their menu”.
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Cew5x
July 30th, 2009
11:51 am
I read your review and while not glowing, it wouldn’t necessarily keep me from eating there. Additionally, there are many more Atlantans who DON’T use restaurant reviews as a guide for where to eat (how else would Applebee’s stay in business?) Keep doing what you do!
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Lim Berger
July 30th, 2009
11:53 am
“The mold itself is fudgy and earthy” – boy, my mouth is really watering now!
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mike
July 30th, 2009
3:19 pm
first of all i find it funny that DBA barbecue put a link to your review on their homepage.. at least they are being honest ! but I applaud an honest review, in any economic situation.. i wish i would have read the review before i went and paid $12 for that horrible and little plate of smoked turkey.. but overall the ambiance of the joint is good and it seems like they put a lot of effort and money into it
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Darin
July 30th, 2009
3:36 pm
With H&F out of my rotation, my back-up favorite bakery will be Joli Kobe. I go there regularly already for their excellent croissants and the loaf bread.
For crusty loaf breads I like Breadgarden and Star Provisions.
And another great place to go for pastries is the market on the bottom of Parish. And speaking of pastries, this would be more of a fryer-y than a bakery, but I regularly visit Sublime Doughnuts for their delicious little circular gems.
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bongo
July 30th, 2009
7:00 pm
Barbeque is such a hot button in Atlanta that sometimes I think the AJC (which seems to run a “best in town” opinion every six months) may just be pandering to the fire. There were after all people that thought Sonny’s was tasty.??? Yours is not the first review of this joint and I am sure will not be the last as Atlanta has become a town of food critics. However, I may eat there as I have friends in the area and will make my own judgements at that point. An example in point is a recent visit to Holy Taco.
Nice patio, courteous staff, etc… but the beer was too pricey and the food not that great (I did try the chicken hearts taco, which had no flavor whatsoever and the pescado which was no better). But, we were with friends, the ambience was cordial and a fine time was had by all. I can drive three miles to Buford Hwy and have much better food at a much better price. El Taco Veloz is not particularly a great place for ten people to hang though. So basically, weigh your priorties and take your chances.
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bongo
July 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
Oh, and enjoy every sandwich. RIP Warren.
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joe
July 30th, 2009
7:55 pm
Reviews are reviews, but what today’s problems is, that what used to be a a standard 3 month wait to pounce on a recently opened restaurant happens within the first weekend on any number of the foodie blog sites out there…Let the new restaurants open and get established enough to sort through opening issues and let the staff get the food right! If they cant get it right then get on them!!!
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Alan Smith
July 30th, 2009
8:11 pm
REI Atlanta is extremely happy to hear this news, especially the bicycle shop. We have missed you, hurry back.
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Joia officially opens in Midtown « Great Chefs
July 30th, 2009
8:15 pm
[...] officially opens in Midtown Syndicated from Joia officially opens in Midtown.The menu, from chef Brett Maddox, includes prosciutto and house-cured Tuscan salami (for $7 and [...]
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Broderick
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
I’m a fan of the White Windmill bakeries in Duluth and Doraville
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BehindEnemyLines
July 31st, 2009
5:06 am
You shouldn’t be grappling with the issue at all. Your responsibility is first & foremost to the reader/consumer. The advertising department is the one tasked with driving traffic to the business, your role is to generate readership by providing information that diners can use to them make good choices on where & how they spend their dining dollars & time. You aren’t going to save a bad restaurant by glossing over their problems but you could definitely put your own usefulness to question by doing so. So please, shoot straight with the readers & let the chips fall where they may.
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clyde
July 31st, 2009
6:02 am
I can’t imagine what kind of person heeds the advice of a paid food critic.I’ve always found that I’m quite capable of deciding for myself whether a restaurant is good or not.
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DBA
July 31st, 2009
6:37 am
Keep up the objectivity. Some of your free weekly competitors are basically review for advertising and the reviews are worthless if they are all positive.
Agree with what others have said:
1) now more than ever help the reader spend their scarce dining dollars wisely
2) focus on more casual,lower-priced places vs. fine dining as a help to readers
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Devildog
July 31st, 2009
7:05 am
Good is good, not good is not good. Tell it like it is.
On the subject of BBQ, I see reviews all the time of places that fall short yet I haven’t seen a review of my all-time favorite in years, Old Hickory House. Great BBQ, outstanding Brunswick stew and a fine, friendly wait staff.
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Mark M
July 31st, 2009
7:44 am
Theo’s Brothers has the best bread this side of San Fran!
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Mary Smith
July 31st, 2009
10:56 am
hi to everybody, last week i was looking for an atlanta food and dining restaurant because i want to celebrate my anniversary in the best place of Atlanta, i find a warm place, i think the name es versiallo or something like that i definitely recommend that place for a nice dinning
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Rodney
July 31st, 2009
12:32 pm
Totally agree with Joli Kobe (and for desserts, too) but the country loaf from Alon’s is difficult to beat.
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Sophie Sao
July 31st, 2009
12:47 pm
I love Cambodian foods. My friends and I went to eat at Phnom Penh in Tucker last week. The foods and the services were excellent. We will definitely go back.
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Rachel Ray
July 31st, 2009
1:37 pm
I like drinking…..Where is this bar? Can I smoke? I like to smoke and drink.
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Tyree
July 31st, 2009
1:41 pm
Agave, Tasty China, Spoon, Alon, Little Bangkok are all staples. Taking you back a few years, I do miss The desert place in VaHi almost on the corner. I think Highland Tap is located there now.
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Tyree
July 31st, 2009
2:08 pm
@Rachael Ray… Grow up. Move on. Please stop.
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Fred Brown
July 31st, 2009
8:57 pm
Hello Meridith Ford Goldman,
Brown’s Guides is programming a “Georgia Restaurant Search” that will include all Georgia cities, plus Atlanta restaurants by neighborhood. Do you know of any local, state or regional sites that do a good job of this that can be used as a comparison?
Here are the BG Atlanta neighborhoods: Airport, AtlanticStation, Brookhaven, Buckhead, BufordHwy, CabbageTown, CandlerPark, CheshireBridge, Clairmont, Downtown, EastAtlanta, Edgewood, Emory, GrantPark, LittleFivePoints, Midtown, Old4thWard, Perimeter, PonceyHighland, VirginiaHighland, Westside. Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
Fred
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IC Atlanta
August 1st, 2009
8:51 am
If you aren’t honest you ruin your own credibility and that of the paper. Be honest and be objective. If a restaurant goes out of business it does it on it’s own accord. I’ve only seen one review help drive a place out of business – a place called Mango’s located in Midtown Promenade and the review was by Cliff Bostick.
DBA’s is good, glad it is in the neighborhood, but I wish they would go take some lessons from the folks a BBQ1 then I would be heaven.
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Pam Blanton
August 1st, 2009
12:00 pm
Hi Meredith,
Thanks so much for letting Atlantans know about the Killer Tomato Fest at JCT. Kitchen & Bar. It’s going to be a great day celebrating summer’s bountiful tomato! What a stellar line-up of chefs, farmers and mixologists!
Thanks again,
Pam Blanton
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Robynn McCarthy
August 2nd, 2009
3:03 pm
We did go to the Windward location a couple of weekends ago on the recommendation of friends who said it was their favorite (we still stand by Fat Matt’s, a long drive but worth it). When we arrived to pick up our order I was concerned that we were the only ones there, as usually good barbecue is belied by crowds (we happily stand in line at Fat Matt’s). I was assured that this location was busiest at weekday lunch, which is understandable considering it’s tucked away and surrounded by office parks. We spent a good penny for a salad with turkey, and a slab and sides and tried two of the different sauces including the carolina style. My SO is from South Carolina, and that’s her preference.
The ribs were inedible, unless you like pouring a shaker of salt in your mouth. We actually called, not for a refund, but to let the restaurant know that they maybe had a bad batch of ribs on their hands. We were assured there was nothing wrong with the ribs, but after being put on hold (I suspect someone decided to taste and check) we were told that possibly they had been delivered the wrong seasoning from their supplier. They did refund us the cost of the bad slab. The whole meal over all was slightly below mediocre (the turkey had no smokey flavor at all – could have been mystery meat and was terribly drym the salad dressing is not home made), and as I said we couldn’t eat the ribs. I think I’d be afraid to try the wings, I’ll stick with Wild Wing for those, also at Windward, and travel occasionally down to the city for some Fat Matt’s.
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Stacy Augustine
August 3rd, 2009
1:46 am
What a great guy! I’d hire him in a minute. Fun article.
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billy
August 3rd, 2009
6:19 am
1. My money is as important to me as the success of this restaurant is important to its owners. No more, no less. I hate, I despise spending good money or poor efforts: that goes from restaurants to movies to records to anything that costs money.
2. In this age of marketing, where most of the people I know are highly suceptible to good marketing (i.e. G-Force, the Ugly Truth, Funny People), it is extremely helpful to find an honest critic. I don’t have the time, the money, or the calorie deficit to spend on inferior restaurants. Further, let me know of those great deals out there, those hidden gems, those places that exceed expectations.
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Paul
August 3rd, 2009
9:57 am
Why does everyone assume that moms are the ones who get the kids ready for school? I am the only morning person in my home, and I’m the one who wakes up my children, helps them get their clothes and backpacks ready, fixes lunch for my 10 year-old (usually PB&J on whole wheat, yogurt, fruit, pretzels, cookie and skim milk), and gets them to the bus. Don’t assume that dads aren’t involved in their children’s education. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
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Paul...
August 3rd, 2009
10:00 am
…your name should be Nancy.
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Becky
August 3rd, 2009
10:17 am
Paul, you sound like a coworker of mine..His wife leaves for work a couple of hours beofre him, so he’s the one that does everything you do..I think he is an awesome man and you most likely are too..
Wish there were more of your type around..
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Stan
August 3rd, 2009
10:45 am
Paul,
Thanks for doing your job as a father/parent. Now get rid of the slight chip on your shoulder about it and just be happy that you have kids to make lunch for.
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Becky
August 3rd, 2009
12:16 pm
Stan, whats the latest on going to cooking school?
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Stan
August 3rd, 2009
2:32 pm
Hi Becky, still thinking about it, and want to do it. I’ve had to put it on hold while I figure out my next source of income, I think I shared already that I’m losing my job within a years time. Plus my wife has been sick a couple of times lately that required my immediate attention.
Thanks for asking, it’s nice to know people care.
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Liz
August 3rd, 2009
3:12 pm
Pure Taqueria is my favorite restaurant in Atlanta. Great food, drinks and atmosphere. They have awesome tacos (on corn tortillas) and white sangria! The only problem? The crowd. It takes a while to get sat and then people are bumping into you.
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Becky
August 3rd, 2009
5:00 pm
Stan, yes you had mentioned it, sorry to hear that it is still hapening..Hope you do find something before to long.. I’ll still keep you and your wife in my thoughts..
I think this was also mentioned, but here I go again..What about trying out for the FNW show for the next Food Network Star? Ether way, best of luck to you…
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Stan
August 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
LOL… My wife and I talked about that as we watched this season NFNS. I do NOT have what it takes to do TV…I have the perfect face for radio. lol. I also get a lot of pleasure from seeing people enjoy the food I prepare so TV doesn’t work on that level either.
Thanks for the idea though.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
August 3rd, 2009
5:18 pm
Stan, I don’t know your background, but I taught at J & W for close to seven years — let me know if you have questions or would like more info about what C-school is like. I can put you in touch with some folks … you can email me at mford@ajc.com
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Stan
August 4th, 2009
8:47 am
Thank you Meridith! I’ll do that.
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Stacy
August 4th, 2009
12:56 pm
I would like to add that Barry does not just cook for celebrities. He is also great for a one time dinner party. He hosted an event at my house and was amazing. From supplies to clean-up Barry is always prepared!
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Two-minute drill: Richt on Joe Cox’s inexperience | The Junkyard Blawg
August 4th, 2009
3:55 pm
[...] (when we tried our best to avoid the fare at what was known as revoltin’ Bolton), but as our Meridith Ford points out, the school actually placed 12th in the 2010 Princeton Review’s list of [...]
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Mark
August 5th, 2009
8:11 am
Julia child’s enthusiasm for what she did was indeed infectious. She was part of my life as I grew up. You just could not beat her spirit with the way she closed every show “This is Julia Child — Bon Apetit!!!” I can’t wait to see Meryl Streep bring her talents to this portrayal.
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Rodney
August 5th, 2009
10:32 am
From what I’ve seen so far, Meryl Streep is just about as spot-on for JC as anyone could be, without delving into a caricature. But I agree – can’t wait to see it. She was always kinda like that old Aunt that everyone has – brassy, funny, but can make a mean cake.
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Dport
August 5th, 2009
1:22 pm
Rachel Ray: Stay home smoke, drink and enjoy
Mirch Masala: looking forward to some indian food and a look at what “oddly formal” may mean
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Jim Honkisz
August 5th, 2009
2:23 pm
Kyma has been serving a delicious watermelon salad with feta cheese this summer which no one should miss.
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JR
August 5th, 2009
2:24 pm
Did you mean “me gusta”?
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SLS
August 5th, 2009
3:25 pm
Totally agree with “JR”!
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Mellow Mom
August 5th, 2009
4:01 pm
Thanks for the recomendation on the smoked wings. We got some last weekend and they were the best wings I have ever had. We got them plain and they had a really unique smokey flavor. Glad to find them before football season.
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Darin
August 5th, 2009
4:26 pm
Very interesting read, thanks. I didn’t previously know about that incredible disparity between the amounts of water used for livestock and vegetables.
I’ll admit that the brief thought of giving up beef for the sake of the environment made my hanger-steak-loving heart sink, but I could definitely see myself eat less of it and eating more fish for protein.
I think one more potential plus to the locavore movement is in the way that it helps preserve traditions of locally grown and produced foods, from the varieties of fresh summer peas to products like mayhaw jelly and sorgham syrup.
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Samantha
August 5th, 2009
4:46 pm
Besides the drinking on the Sabbath part, this looks like a super-fun event! Will the chefs be autographing their dishes?
What’s up with Fred Brown’s comment? It has nothing to do with Killer Tomatoes! It’s like all he wants to do is promote his own guide?
That’s not cool. Have a blessed day! Can’t wait to see y’all at the Killer Tomatoe Festival!
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Becky
August 6th, 2009
9:45 am
I don’t, but I have a sister that can hold her own with anyone on a real homemade bananna pudding..This is our dish of choice for her to bring to all family gatherings..SHe makes it from scratch, never uses a pudding mix…
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Rodney
August 6th, 2009
10:29 am
I’m like Becky – I don’t make “nanner puddin” but my Mom and Grandma do. Maybe I’ll break out that recipe and try it myself (and maybe even win!).
I do, however, despise thick meringue on top – hope that’s not a requirement. I can handle a little, but anything more than maybe 1/2 an inch bothers me.
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Rodney
August 6th, 2009
10:34 am
GET OUT with the mayhaw jelly … someone’s been down near Camilla …
I agree that the local, slow, food movement is about far more than just environmental concerns. For someone like me who grew up on a “farm” (we had a garden and chickens and every now and then butchered a cow) I appreciate the hard work that goes with producing the perfect produce.
Not to mention that it seems fresher, tastier and cheaper (most times). For ME, those three are most important in my decision to shop local whenever I can.
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Jason L. Greene
August 6th, 2009
11:53 am
Julia Child lives forever in all the true Foodie’s hearts. Only Merle Streep could do this, to honor the one and only.
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Katherine Strate
August 6th, 2009
3:30 pm
I went to UGA, and the dining hall food was amazing! They had such a wide assortment of options, from pizza to breakfast to vegetarian…you always came out with your tummy full. Now, O-House has been redone, and there’s a stirfry and sushi bar inside! Yummo! With the expansion of Tate 2, the new food court also features “A Taste of Home Cafe,” where they only cook yo’mama’s recipes. UGA should be Number 1. I’m biased, but I think we have a good argument!
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Ratsky
August 6th, 2009
7:59 pm
Just like the old Andrews Sisters song from the late ’40s or very early ’50s: “Cuanto me gusta!”
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FoodieBuddha
August 7th, 2009
1:23 pm
Thanks for the love! I promise I’m a nice guy
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NativeAtlantan
August 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Congrats Billy and Kristin and I totally agree! Living in north Decatur, Cakes and Ale is a convenient, comfortable and delicious alternative to many of the restaurants around town. Keep it up — we love you!
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ASCScottie
August 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
Congrats indeed! Going to Agnes Scott, Cakes & Ale is so close and convenient and so ridiculously good. Plus, there just aren’t any other restaurants around town like it!
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Cakes & Ale chosen as one of Bon Appetit’s ‘10 Best’ « The Decatur Minute
August 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
[...] 7, 2009 by Tammy According to AJC.com, Cakes & Ale has been chosen as one of the year’s 10 best new restaurants by Bon Appetit [...]
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Margaret
August 8th, 2009
2:45 am
I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.
Margaret
http://grantfoundation.net
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Degreatur
August 8th, 2009
10:41 am
Congrats to Cakes and Ale ! And thanks to Billy and Kristin for setting up shop in Decatur. It’s a wonderful, casual place for a meal or drinks. And the desserts are spectacular.
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ann drake
August 8th, 2009
11:57 am
I made her coq au vin once, a long long time ago when I was young and adventurous…it took every pot I had and that was just for the prep. I was too traumatized to ever try another one; but I loved her anyway.
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D
August 8th, 2009
12:22 pm
I like keeping up with The Many Adventures of TavoLini – a very sweet young urban Atlanta couple- I am sending a link to my adventurous daughter and her fiance in hopes of luring them back home !!! Lini makes & posts beautiful pics of her vegetarian dishes, and pics of their home restorations are entertaining as well.
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Peggy
August 8th, 2009
9:56 pm
I have used her book so often the binding is falling apart. One of my favorite recipes is her Boeuf Bourguignon. It is always a hit when I make it.
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Chocolate Habenero
August 8th, 2009
11:15 pm
Foodie Buddha is neither a foodie or a buddist. His blunt, poorly written reviews borderline on personal attacks and terrorism. It wouldn’t suprise me to find out his real name is Corey Lynx. The staff at Mi Barrio, that he recently shredded, are some of the hardest working personnel anyone can ever hope to see in action. Does Atlanta really need another self proclaimed foodie trash talking small, family owned, independent businesses? FoodieBuddha’s site reminds me of Rotten.com, by that I mean everything that is wrong with the internet.
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D
August 9th, 2009
9:24 am
FoodieBuddha – have you ever considered the possibility that people know who you are – as the reason you are treated (and seated) like an ugly stepchild ?
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foodfriend
August 9th, 2009
3:04 pm
I love Flanboyanteats.com for a latino bent as well as great reviews of restaurants outside the perimeter.
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Browncoat
August 9th, 2009
4:57 pm
Weak list
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donald j. van etten
August 9th, 2009
5:28 pm
the movies was excelent my wife and myself enjoyed it, thanks again for another great movies.
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dishdiva
August 9th, 2009
5:33 pm
Meredith, how can you not mention smittenkitchen and pioneerwoman — in the national food blog category?! P.S. Love you buddha.
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5thGenerationATL
August 9th, 2009
6:30 pm
I’m shocked you neglected to mention Jonathan Baker, editor of citysearch Atlanta. Perhaps no one is more plugged in to the Atlanta culinary world and latestest happenings than him. From his reports of tastings at The Masters to his honest reviews of Atlanta’s wide variety of restaurants, no one does a better job. He personifies what Atlanta has become; old southern charm blended with a hip, cosmopolitan vibe.
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I'mHungry
August 9th, 2009
10:18 pm
What kind of a list is this???? Where’s EatItAtlanta.com, it should be on this list!!
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reservoirDAWG
August 10th, 2009
9:25 am
I like Mojito’s in downtown Norcross.
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Greg
August 10th, 2009
9:37 am
Cuban don’t go around here.
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Leann
August 10th, 2009
9:44 am
The Cuban Diner on Roswell Rd. in Marietta. New owners and the food is fantastic!
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jennyw
August 10th, 2009
9:44 am
My favorite was the Havana Sandwich Shop, on the corner of Buford & N.Druid Hills,…before it burned down. Coco Loco on Sidney Marcus has also had consistently great Cuban food and friendly service for the last 20 years in Buckhead. The prices are a steal! I highly recommend it.
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Patti
August 10th, 2009
9:47 am
What about http://www.foodgawker.com and http://www.tastespotting.com Both amazing sites.
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Atlanta Native
August 10th, 2009
9:47 am
Palomilla’s at Spalding and Holcomb Bridge is great, and well reviewed by the AJC.
Little Cuba at I-285 is good Cuban, also.
I have yet to try the new version of Little Havana in Canton, but can’t wait to be there around lunchtime!
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ihorizon
August 10th, 2009
9:51 am
Was in the mood for Cuban cooking last week after missing the Havana Sandwich Shop when I used to eat there before it burned down. There is a Havana South near the I-985 exit and while the food is good, I wanted to try out the Tropical Breeze located on Hwy 13 (Atlanta Hwy) in Flowery Branch. As I was leaving with my to-go order, I noticed a loving grandma standing in the doorway watching her granddaughter assist me in carring out my food to the car so I knew this was going to be great bites!!! It was so goood!!! Almost like the Havana Sandwich shop!!! Another one that recently opened during the summer is located at the Johns Creek location is Cha Cha Bongo. It is a nice sized restaurant similar to Chipotle but it can be hard to find right away as it is in almost empty shopping strip. The food is good except I think some of it is a bit pricy and not enough choices to choose from when normally one gets a meal for less.
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tcote
August 10th, 2009
9:56 am
Little Havana in Canton-closed I think–they are looking for a new location in the old area again…
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DW
August 10th, 2009
10:01 am
LA FONDA
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jennifer
August 10th, 2009
10:20 am
How in the world have you not mentioned Las Palmeras on 5th St? It is amazing. I dream about the pollo frito and plantains there. I hear Papi’s is quite good as well, but I’ve never been able to pry myself away from Las Palmeras.
Plus, are you sure Kool Korners has closed for good? I drove by yesterday and there was a new banner hanging on thw building next door that said Kool Korners.
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Grammar King
August 10th, 2009
10:30 am
Mambo’s in Alpharetta, Las Palmeras in Midtown: Hands down the two best Cuban restaurants in town. Mambo’s is delicious and relatively cheap, especially at lunch, but make sure to get there before 12 or else the small space gets crowded. Las Palmeras is good, a little more expensive, and they don’t separate checks for large groups. The service can be slow, but it’s worth it. Try the Hot Cuban Sandwich if you want to burn your toungue off. La Fonda is delicious as well, but not quite as good.
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reservoirDAWG
August 10th, 2009
10:30 am
Oh yeah Jennifer, good call. Las Palmeras is quite good.
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D
August 10th, 2009
10:31 am
Rey’s in Loganville – Perhaps not best in the city, but good food, friendly owners and a pleassant respite from all those chain spots along Highway 78. Their roast pork lunch special on Saturdays with a side of freshly fried and salted plantain strips and black beans and rice is wonderful.
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CubanDAWG
August 10th, 2009
10:41 am
Mojito’s in downtown Norcross. Outstanding ! Owned and operated by a Cuban couple and they also have live music http://mojitosbistro.com/.
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Lynn
August 10th, 2009
10:52 am
Does anyone know if Havanna Sandwich Shop has relocated somewhere else since the fire?
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Erica
August 10th, 2009
10:53 am
Mojito Cuban American Bistro in Historic Norcross is wonderful! The menu features the owners’ family recipes, and every time I go there I see many Cuban-Americans dining (always a good sign for a Cuban restaurant). The owners themselves play live music on Friday and Saturday nights (plus the last Wednesday of the month when they have terrific drink specials, to boot!). Luis is a terrific pianist, his wife Yanin is a beautiful vocalist, and your waiter may even be in the cast of musicians with a stringed instrument, bongos or saxophone. They hand out instruments like maracas, claves and tamborine so you can get in on the fun. My family and I can walk there from our home, and we eat there about once a week. They go out of their way to accommodate my food allergies, which is helped greatly by their expert chefs who prepare food from scratch at a reasonable price. Yum!!
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The Truth
August 10th, 2009
10:53 am
Papi’s across from Mary Mac’s and also up on Chastain Road is very good. Their empandas are excellent while the sandwiches are fresh and tasty. I have never had a bad meal there.
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Suzanne
August 10th, 2009
11:06 am
Cuban Diner in Marietta is awesome. The Mojito chicken with black beans and rice is my favorite. Of course the plantains and tostones are yummy – not to mention the yuca fries. It’s a must try. The new owners are two of the most friendly people you’ll ever meet and are actually Cuban. They make you feel like you’re one of the family. The service is fantastic, the restaurant is always spotless and every experience has been one I would recommend to anyone. They are now serving beer and wine which is always a plus.
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Buzzfan®
August 10th, 2009
11:14 am
jennifer….I, too, had heard about a potential re-opening of Kool Korner, but it won’t be under the same ownership.
The previous landlord sold the building (which led to the closing last summer) and Mr Ramirez moved to Birmingham to be closer to family. He just opened a Kool Korner in the Vestavia Hills area of B’Ham….
http://blog.al.com/bob-carlton/2009/06/cuban_sandwich_shop_comes_to_v.html
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NoneYa
August 10th, 2009
11:15 am
For real authentic Cuban – Papi’s in Midtown
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Pat
August 10th, 2009
11:20 am
Papi’s in Midtown….although, they do have some more locations around Metro ATL, don’t consider them a chain
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SMH
August 10th, 2009
11:20 am
1. Papi’s in Stockbridge.
2. Coco Loco in Buckhead
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YumYum
August 10th, 2009
11:24 am
Cha Cha Bongo on McGinnis Ferry!!!!!!
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Lim Berger
August 10th, 2009
11:43 am
Las Palmeras in midtown is the closest thing in Atlanta to my favorite neighborhood Cuban joints I visit every time I am down in Key West. Now, if only I could find a place to stop on the way to work in the morning for a triple-shot, 3-sugar, cafe con leche for $1.50!
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pam
August 10th, 2009
11:51 am
Mojito Cafe in Alpharetta!
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Carlos J
August 10th, 2009
11:55 am
Papi’s in Stockbridge, hands down one of the best.
CocoLoco is not what it used to be, I will not return. Food quality is terrible and tasteless.
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jch
August 10th, 2009
11:59 am
Havana was always my choice and am VERY glad to hear it’s re-opening. Can you tell us when and where?
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Cew5x
August 10th, 2009
12:06 pm
Her onion soup (not “french”, just soup!), creamed spinach, fish quenelles (weird but very tasty), and numerous attempts at an omelet. What stuck me about the cookbook when I picked it up a few years ago was how the many french recipes really seem very american now, at least to me, no doubt due to Miss Julia.
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hugo
August 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
Good article, but i was hoping for Cuabn rest. suggestions in the ATL. I just relocated here a little over a week ago, and desperately looking for my Cuban fix! That said, I’m Cuban myself, so I might be a bit picky as to teh taste of the food, but any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated! I did have a pretty good Cuban Sandwich at some place called Papi’s which is on ponce de Leon, which I told by the locals to just call it Ponce.
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Ms Bulldawg
August 10th, 2009
12:10 pm
Head on over to Athens and sample Cali-n-Tito’s on Lumpkin Street near the UGA track. Yummmm….great food!
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KG24
August 10th, 2009
12:17 pm
Papi’s in Stockbridge!!!
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miami rico
August 10th, 2009
12:25 pm
1. Coco loco’s is pretty good.
2. Papi’s in Stockbridge
3. Mambo’s has gotten to cute trying to jazz up the traditional cuban dishes. If its good you don’t have to do anything to it.
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Jarvis
August 10th, 2009
12:38 pm
Colonnade had a lettuce wedge before lettuce wedges were cool. All-time fav….try the pork chops.
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Matthew
August 10th, 2009
12:45 pm
I’ve never heard of the Varisty. Did that just open? And why did you leave the Varsity off of your list?
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Thomas C
August 10th, 2009
1:23 pm
Have you ever been to Pappi’s? There’s one on Ponce and one on Chastain. Probably close to your house.
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Thomas C jr
August 10th, 2009
1:27 pm
My dad loves Papi’s. He likes the one on Ponce, but said the one on Chastain is good too. I vote Papi’s, because my daddy is my Papi and Papi knows best! Viva La Papi’s!
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Thomas C
August 10th, 2009
1:53 pm
AAAAHHHHHHHhhhhhh….. Papi’s. I can smell the beans right now. My only complaint with Papi’s is the morning after…
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Thomas C jr
August 10th, 2009
1:55 pm
If you eat to much Papi’s then you’ll get sloppy..
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Stan the Man
August 10th, 2009
1:58 pm
not sure about nice guy, but definitely a tool
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Wendy H
August 10th, 2009
2:00 pm
Just had the BEST cuban sandwich *(’ve ever had) at Cha Cha Bongo on McGinnis Ferry Rd in Johns Creek. The fried yucca with aioli and fried sweet plantains were wonderful.
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A. Teesman
August 10th, 2009
3:08 pm
Cashin’s at Perimeter Mall and Mighty Casey in Roswell.
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A. Teesman
August 10th, 2009
3:31 pm
Oh, I forgot Baby Doe’s Matchless Mine.
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Rosie
August 10th, 2009
3:36 pm
The Cuban Diner in Marietta on Roswell Road is great. I love the Yuca fries and the Palomilla. 1484 Roswell Rd Marietta
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Elena
August 10th, 2009
3:40 pm
The Cuban Diner(Marietta) by far the best Cuban I’ve had outside of Miami. http://www.mariettacubandiner.com/
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Heavy Sigh
August 10th, 2009
4:07 pm
How on earth did Foodie Buddha make a top five list with so many other choices in the city? His writing is scathing and poor not savvy. It often needs to be fact and spell checked, and his anonimity is further proof that he is just a typical bully blogger who hides behind his keyboard and can’t stand behind his own words and opinions. This is not a top five list of equal company….Everyone else has a real name.
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Crisina
August 10th, 2009
4:28 pm
Great Food! and they make you feel at home! Definatley a MUST GO!!
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Crisina
August 10th, 2009
4:29 pm
just thinking about the food I forgot to mention the restaurant.. THE CUBAN DINER on Roswell Rd.
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Malcolm Xmas
August 10th, 2009
9:16 pm
I guess there’s no accounting for taste: Coco Loco (the bland ropa was still frozen – microwave must have been on the blink) or La Fonda (Rice a Roni quality paella next to trendy Tex-Mex tacos) – good Cuban food?. Then again, the question was “Where’s your favorite Cuban restaurant?”, not where is there good Cuban food in Atlanta….
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BlondeHoney
August 10th, 2009
9:40 pm
ok i was raised in Miami just moved here 4 years ago & i will tell you that there is NO GOOD CUBAN FOOD in the atlanta metro area. Papi’s? When they opened on Chastain I was excited & tried them..ordered pan con lechon & was flabbergasted to find LETTUCE on my sandwich…WTF??? Sorry folks but the best cuban food is NOT in Atlanta…need to go to Casa Larios, Versailles, or Latin America Cafeteria in Miamk to find that
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Ted
August 10th, 2009
9:51 pm
80 percent of this list is worth getting turned on to. I don’t usually disagree with Mrs. Goldman, but this time I must. How in the world could you consider Foodiebuddha? We have insightful and informative bloggers in Atlanta. Blissful Glutton certainly fits the bill. Foodiebuddha?! Really?!
His wish to keep a hidden identity isn’t to review restaurants. You manage to do that with your real name, as do several other noteworty critics. I believe his motivation to stay secretive is out of fear. He’s slandered a large portion of the service industry. Certainly there are sous chefs and line cooks with revenge on their minds. John Mariani said it best….”the problem with bloggers is that people who don’t know the difference between a dinner roll and a tootsie roll have a voice.”
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Eric
August 10th, 2009
11:15 pm
Being from Miami and my wife being Cuban, we kept looking for a good Cuban restaurant here in Atlanta since moving here 2 years ago. I kept hearing great things about the Havana sandwich shop till we tried it and found the food almost laughable. Then my wife heard about this little place in Loganville called Reys Cuban grill. This place is not only the best Cuban food here in the Atl area, but it would stand out in places like Miami and NY. The only negative about Reys is their location. Being in a remote location doesn’t help their status as being Atlanta’s best Cuban restaurant. I seriously hope they have plans to open another one of their restaurants closer to Atlanta.
3939 Atlanta Hwy # 103
Loganville, GA 30052-376
(770) 554-4440
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Perfect Moment Project
August 11th, 2009
12:58 am
Oh yeah. We spent a wonderful morning at The Flying Biscuit recently.
Take a look at the photos. Flying off the plate biscuits. Definitely my last meal in Atlanta:
Sometimes you just gotta have a biscuit
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mford
August 11th, 2009
6:41 am
Hey guys — a few of you have asked about Havana’s reopening. Here’s my post on that: http://blogs.ajc.com/table-talk-blog/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=243
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Becky
August 11th, 2009
9:34 am
I’m more of a Paula Deen type cook..With that being said though, I don’t think I could do something like this..I’m not a by the book cook..I just throw this in and that in and I never measure anything..
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Rodney
August 11th, 2009
10:01 am
@Becky – sometimes (but not when baking!) that’s the best way!
This sounds kind of interesting unless (and please don’t run me out of town for saying this) it’s just a bunch of moms whose focus is on feeding the little ones. I’m really not interested in the best way to hide broccoli so finicky children will eat it or how to stretch 1 pound of ground beef into a meal for six.
But if it’s innovative and unique then I’m all for it (regardless of who cooks it!).
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Rodney
August 11th, 2009
10:06 am
I was just explaining to the bartendress at One Midtown Kitchen last week about The Colonnade – she’d never heard of it. I’d have to say it’s probably the one place I could take my parents and KNOW they’d like it (they’re VERY simple eaters – Colonnade food is what they like best).
Myself? I love the feel of the place, and the food is OK. Cocktails in the bar, then some filling comfort food – I have two friends that I meet at The Colonnade about once every two months and one of whom RAVES about the wedge. I like the Saltines and butter.
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Rod
August 11th, 2009
10:17 am
What kind of pricing are we talking about?
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Becky
August 11th, 2009
11:15 am
Rodney, thank you..I too am not into hiding veggies so that someone will eat them..I lay it all out on the table and tell the kids just what it is..They try it, then decide if they like it..Are you going to go for this?? You would be great for it based on previous posts I’ve read from you.
That’s one thing that I do..If I want try a recipe and I don’t have all of the ingredients, I’ll throw in what I have..I’m always trying new things..My husband on the other hand is a true meat and potatoes..He never wants to try new foods, so it’s frustrating for me to cook at times..
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Rodney
August 11th, 2009
11:19 am
Oh dear – I’ve made fun of the “Farm Town” people for months now (my sister is an addict) so I probably should avoid “Restaurant City” for fear that she’ll brand me a hippo-crite (inside joke)!
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BlondeHoney
August 11th, 2009
2:58 pm
Eric, I SO agree with you…everyone kept telling me about Havana & when i tried it was blecchhh; laughable is putting it nicely. As a fellow Miamian, I’m interested in the place in Loganville you mentioned; just wish it were closer. Thanks for the tip!
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Tracey Jarvis
August 11th, 2009
5:26 pm
I can say my experience for Restaurant week was great I dine at Morton’s Steakhouse they treated me with such class, like I was from Hollywood the food was to die for. Thank you Morton’s for making me and my Husband feel special for the night it was almost like I was in a fairy tale.
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Marta Wood
August 11th, 2009
5:44 pm
The best: Mojito’s in Norcross, Las Palmeras and Havana North up I-85 – Papi’s on Ponce is too noisy! The best Cuban sandwich was Kool Korners!!
Rey’s in Loganville is a good standby!
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anders
August 11th, 2009
7:53 pm
Sheeeeshhhh….
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Tamra
August 12th, 2009
8:10 am
I hope that the new barbecue place, ‘cue, just north of Windward Parkway on HWY 9 enters!!! Their “BANANAS “DOSTER” (Named after it’s owner) is a homemade delight which has been referred to as “Heaven in a bowl”.
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R Berry
August 12th, 2009
10:40 am
We tried Morton’s for the first time during Atlanta Restaurant Week. Oh my!! All the food was wonderful, the steaks were cooked as ordered, and the service was excellent. Our table was ready exactly on time. The Restaurant Week special was a terrific value. We loved it and look forward to going back again!
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Elizabeth
August 12th, 2009
10:58 am
We went to BLT Steak. No wait, and the food and service were great. But we also had reservations at 5:45; at 7, when we left, the restaurant was full.
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mld365
August 12th, 2009
1:21 pm
Vickery’s Midtown
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JR
August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm
I thought the Berghoff in Chicago had shut down, at least a year ago. Has it been re-opened?
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Sara
August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm
We had a great experience at Terrace, a nice new place in the Ellis hotel. They focus on locally grown food. It’s a bit tricky to find though, no outside signage that I could see. Not crowded at all! Yummy menu.
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ziza
August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm
unfortunately, i agree there is no good cuban food in atlanta. coco loco’s is not good anymore, papi’s is just so so although the bartender is a sweetheart, las palmeras is prob the best, but nothing to write home about either… que lastima!
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CM
August 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
It has to be the Colonnade for the atmosphere alone.
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Stan
August 12th, 2009
2:31 pm
Smoothies can be good, and fairly easy and quick.
Good for you cereal is not a bad choice.
Whole grain Eggos.
Egg whites in the carton, maybe with onion and peppers. a fast way to get a decent scramble.
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Adria Greene
August 12th, 2009
2:33 pm
Palamillos is awesome. Great food, reasonable prices!
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Coffee
August 12th, 2009
2:37 pm
Mojito’s in downtown Norcross is great, especially when the staff starts signing themselves.
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Jo Ann Mason
August 12th, 2009
2:48 pm
I have made the French apple tart, log roll @ christmas and croissants. All three took a very long time But were the best things I ever made in my life. I also use her recipe for crepes.
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HG3
August 12th, 2009
2:53 pm
Mary Mac’s.
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h. goldberg
August 12th, 2009
3:12 pm
We used to like the Colonnade, but my wife got tired of the “almost dead” and the gays who accompanied them. I finally convinced her to try it one more time. It was one of the worst dining out experiences we have had in recent memory. It was no where as good as it once was and that is the last time I can drag my wife there.
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IMHO
August 12th, 2009
3:22 pm
Maybe she’s not crazy about “breakfast” foods (much like me)? My mom had greater success when I had the option to eat whatever sounded good – which varied very greatly – and I still follow today. Leftovers are/were always a popular choice! It might be anything from hummus & broccoli to spaghetti & meat sauce to a turkey sandwich to popcorn and chocolate milk. I figure if I’m getting a fairly balanced meal, it doesn’t matter what its contents/composition may be.
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kc
August 12th, 2009
3:27 pm
we tried both morton’s and blt steak. morton’s had both a stellar menu and the usual morton’s great service. blt steak was a true disappointment. we waited an hour past our reservation time, had slow service once we were seated, and were not impressed at all with our meals. add in problems with our check upon its arrival, and there is no way i would pay full price for that experience again. morton’s, however, would have been worth every penny even at their standard, much higher prices.
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Susan
August 12th, 2009
3:32 pm
Let her choose! maybe she’s not a “breakfast food” fan (much like myself). If she loved last night’s meatloaf and mac-n-cheese, why not let her go with that? Turkey sandwich? Hummus & carrots? Popcorn and lofat chocolate milk? As long as it’s balanced and it’s actually eaten as the first meal of the day, that makes it breakfast to me.
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cuban guy
August 12th, 2009
3:35 pm
agree with some of the other cuban transplants in ATL- cuban food is lacking here. Papi’s on Ponce is way oversalted. Coco Loco is even worse. Seasoning lacking in food. Las Palmeras doesn’t even use real cuban bread. These are a joke.
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Lynn www.mamasays.us
August 12th, 2009
3:53 pm
How exciting to have local restaurants noticed on a national level. Congrats to Cakes and Ale (Billy and Kristin) – continued success.
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Lisa
August 12th, 2009
4:25 pm
I have to say that ever since the Colonnade got on the food network and starting adding fancy sauces and those new appetizers, it is not nearly as good as it used to be.
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Cew5x
August 12th, 2009
5:01 pm
New York, Washington and other cities have been doing successful restaurant weeks for years. From what I understand it’s a great way to make a few extra bucks during the slow time of the year and introduce restaurants to diners who might not otherwise get through the door for the first time for full price. I’m all for it, although you can eat at some of these places for not much more than $25 any time of the year. I’ll be hitting up 4th and Swift for sure.
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susab
August 12th, 2009
5:09 pm
If she won’t eat peanut butter, have you tried almond butter? How about the above mentioned eggo with jelly or jam on it? Or a turkey sandwich on whole wheat toast spread with cranberry sauce?
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SteveR
August 12th, 2009
5:55 pm
First, forget the onions and peppers. Unless you want her to be quarantined from the rest of the class for smelling like them. I just wouldn’t take the chance even if she brushes really well. However, I would suggest something simple like a banana sliced into a bowl of Cheerios (highest rated of those tested in a recent Consumer Reports, along with Kix, Life and Honey Nut Cheerios). Do not add sugar. Of course skim, 1 or 2% milk, not whole milk depending on her activity level. Great combination given the nutritional attributes of the banana alone. If she’s tired of just orange juice, try the Dole orange/pineapple or orange/strawberry/banana. As far as yogurt, try the Breyer’s Creme Savers variety. The Orange and Creme is really yummy. Creamy and without that yogurt bite. I know Walmart has them. Go to the breyersyogurt.com web site to see the nutritional breakdown.
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Sarah Smith
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Little Cuba on Chamblee Tucker Rd!!! It is so good!!!! It has great mariquitas and really good cuban coffee and cuban food!!!
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Springs
August 12th, 2009
9:18 pm
Yogli Mogli is the hot new place around Sandy Springs. It seems like everyone i know goes at least 2 times a week. ALWAYS packed. Great frozen yogurt..
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Shel
August 13th, 2009
12:53 am
Armando’s Caribe in Duluth. The paella is excellent; the media noche is wonderfu. The mojitos are a taste of heaven. Even the fish tacos are good. This is definitely a restaurant worth visiting.
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Cow
August 13th, 2009
8:12 am
What makes one person’s palate better than another? Just ask the chick-fil-et cow. He says eat more chicken!
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Susan Yarbrough
August 13th, 2009
8:14 am
what if she’s not a “breakfast food” fan (much like me)? Leftovers are a proven meal. (tasted good last night, tastes good this morning). As long as the meal is balanced, it should suffice.
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George
August 13th, 2009
8:17 am
How do get by with paying with a credit card with a fake name? How do you get a credit card with a fake name?
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Rachel Ray
August 13th, 2009
10:42 am
I never leave a big tip. I need the extra cash for cigarettes.
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Rachel Ray
August 13th, 2009
10:44 am
Mimosas are my breakfast.
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Rachel Ray
August 13th, 2009
10:48 am
I have a Cuban boy that cleans my pool….I will ask him….Maybe he is mexican….
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Meridith Ford Goldman
August 13th, 2009
11:00 am
George: it’s actually much harder since 9/11. But I actually put additional names on my own card. In the old days it was so easy b/c companies never asked for ssn’s; now they almost always do.
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jsf
August 13th, 2009
12:45 pm
How do you feel about writing a review of a restaurant and chef after he just catered your wedding?
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jsf
August 13th, 2009
12:47 pm
“Is this a way for restaurants to make through the recession?”
Weren’t they doing this before the recession?
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Atlanta Native
August 13th, 2009
12:57 pm
Stay behind the menu, it keeps the fantasy alive.
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Angelique
August 13th, 2009
1:23 pm
A known reviewer can tell the public what is good about a restaurant just as well as an anonymous one. The advantage of anonymity is that if a restaurant has poor service or an unreliable kitchen, the reviewer will experience it. Unfortunately it seems almost impossible for a reviewer to stay anonymous anymore. It’s the public who misses out because of this.
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Stan
August 13th, 2009
1:40 pm
I think the thing to remember is that an “official” review is only 1 part it. There are several sites that allow anonymous folks to go on and “review” a place, be they restaurants, oil change places, or handymen services.
Anonymity for actual critics is helpful but ceertainly not everlasting.
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MJ
August 13th, 2009
1:56 pm
@jsf: Why don’t you just get a life?
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benay
August 13th, 2009
4:14 pm
my 14-yr old is a picky eater, too. and to make matters worse, her picky eating habits are often compounded by her mood. i keep a stock of some of the items she likes so she can select what to prepare for her own breakfast: yogurt, egg whites (no extra ingredients — heaven forbid!), cheese toast, bagels and cream cheese, bananas, watermelon, granola bars, milk (2% — fortunately, she loves it). i try to encourage a grains-fruit-protein combo, but often settle for whatever grains-and-fruit-only selection she makes…
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mford
August 13th, 2009
4:15 pm
JSF: I knew when I wrote this that I was putting myself in the spotlight. I feel fine about it. You don’t know the details of what you are talking about, I assure you.
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Bill Lee
August 13th, 2009
4:48 pm
To A. Teesman. I totally agree. Cashin’s restaurants, particularly the one at Perimeter location, were totally iconic. I wish there were in existence today. Remember that poppy seed salad dressing…and the bar, a great bar!
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TBL
August 13th, 2009
5:06 pm
Totally agree, they all should have been doing this special for years and need to continue it-in the slow winter months as well.
Very few of the midtown restaurants listed warrant a $25 price when one can order normally for the same or less.
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BlondeHoney
August 13th, 2009
7:16 pm
Hate to say it but Shel’s comment explains exactly why so many people think there is good cuban food to be had in Atlanta when there really isn’t any. FISH TACOS???? CUBAN??? i don’t think so…Armando’s Caribe is serving Fish Tacos while trying to pass itself off as Cuban. Sigh. I will have tomake a trip home to Miami or cook it myself (which is what i usually do…it’s cheaper). Ropa Viejo, platano maduros, & moros at my house…everyone is invited
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BlondeHoney
August 13th, 2009
7:17 pm
excuse me…I meant Ropa Vieja
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cuban guy
August 13th, 2009
9:25 pm
completely agree wtih blondehoney. Heck coco loco is run by non-cubans. If you think ATL has good cuban food then you are soooo blind. Again these are a joke!!! Find me a real place that has puerco asado, a well seasoned palomilla steak or platano maduros and I’ll be there. As blondehoney said.. fish tacos….right….. and taco bell is real mexican food.
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Tom Griffiths
August 14th, 2009
11:12 am
Hi Chef,
great story, I’m a bee keeper in the Hudson Valley, NY. I’m also a chef, I’m an assoc dean at the CIA and we use a lot of really different flavors of honey in our global classes.
I’ve been bee keeping for about 12 years and still not too sure what I’m doing right or wrong…. I’m doing a lot of work developing recipes with the boutique flavors (terroir) that my bees produce. I get a blueberry flavor in the Spring, great clover in the Summer and Goldenweed and Maple in Autumn. I’d love to give you a tour of the CIA and some of the hives out here if you’re inclined to visit the area. Rachel could come too… it would be nice if she had a better understanding of the really yummy tastes of different honies…
warmly,
Tom
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TH
August 14th, 2009
12:50 pm
Too bad it will be closed as soon as they open Compound again and their diners are getting shot at!
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Deals, freebies and bargains; more than a dozen! | Atlanta Bargain Hunter
August 14th, 2009
2:17 pm
[...] yet another week, and this one is no less impressive. Table Talk blogger Meridith Ford Goldman reports that Midtown Restaurant Week begins Aug. 29 and continues through Sept. 6. Like the [...]
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Kat
August 14th, 2009
2:49 pm
What’s the average price of a Chantal tea kettle?
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Becky
August 14th, 2009
3:16 pm
Kat, I googled them and they are anywhere from $28.00 up to $150.00..Even at the lower cost, that is more than I would pay for a tea kettle…
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Mac
August 14th, 2009
4:14 pm
Shouldn’t they be buying an ad, rather than you reporting their marketing message as news?
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Spalding Drive homeowner
August 14th, 2009
5:01 pm
I agree find some really good recession news, they could have just sent a press release about twenty per cent off, but they are laughing all the way to the check out, you’ve been punkd, mford.
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Spalding Drive homeowner
August 14th, 2009
5:06 pm
what is with that place? it is always busy…the self-serve option?(machines lining the walls?) It is so great to see a busy retail store in Sandy Springs, while so many are closing up. That shopping center rocks!!
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Darin
August 14th, 2009
5:27 pm
This guy is cool — I was at Drinkshop recently and he kindly introduced me to my new favorite absinthe drink, the Sea Foam. Good luck to him in the competition.
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swampem
August 14th, 2009
6:20 pm
Linkkee to Havanna Sandwich Shop no workee. Anything in the Cumming area?
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RF
August 15th, 2009
6:33 pm
We tried Mortons, the food was great. The server was not so great, it was like we bothered him. We had to sit in the bar which was fine. Other than the attitude, it was a great experience. First impressions are lasting, I don’t think I would go back.
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Connie
August 16th, 2009
12:39 pm
Meryl Streep has no comparison to her acting talent. She can master any accent. I loved her in Out of Africa…”I haaad a Faaarm in Afffrica”…lol…she choses her roles, studies, portrays, and brings the character to the screen them like no other actress before her has. I haven’t seen “Julia & Julia” yet…but I can’t help wondering…does the movie discuss Julia Child’s work as a spy for the OSS? <<<A little known fact, but a hell of alot entrigueing. Julia Child literally cooked up a shark repellent, because sharks would bump into explosives that were placed underwater, setting them off and warning the German U-boats they were intended to sink. Not only was she brillant with turkey…lol…but shark as well. Read up on those newly released factoids about Espionage in WWI at http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/apr/spies/index.html
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Drew
August 16th, 2009
4:52 pm
Cuban Diner in Marietta!
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Suzanne
August 17th, 2009
1:00 am
My husband and I had dinner at Joia the other night and couldn’t have been more pleased. I had the signature salad and the flounder and my husband had the caesar salad and short ribs. All was fantastic! Kudos to the Chef!!
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Nianya
August 17th, 2009
8:38 am
If BC wants to compete with the gluten-free brands already out there, they will have to lower their prices. . .we prefer the Gluten Free Pantry, which makes a brownie mix that is absolutely heaven for our food allergic 7you who has been on the GFCF (gluten-free casein-free diet) all of his life. I usually get Gluten Free Pantry products for at least a dollar less.
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Price
August 17th, 2009
8:57 am
Arbonne has gluten free protein shakes if you would rather eat something with a lot less calories….
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Bone
August 17th, 2009
9:22 am
My wife needs to eat gluten-free product due to the celiac disease, but also needs products that are soy free. Would anyone know if the BC products are soy free as well?
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kt
August 17th, 2009
9:27 am
Betty Crocker is owned General Mills. The company is making a huge effort in GF foods. All Chex Mix cereal, except the Wheat variety, are gf, made at a gf facility. This is huge for my family because I do not have to go to the health food store for a box of cereal. I wish other mainstream companies would follow General Mills example.
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RK
August 17th, 2009
10:20 am
You’re got to wonder why this disease is becoming more prevalent…
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Bobbi
August 17th, 2009
10:29 am
If gluten-free products help put more Mike Vick Supporters in prison where they belong, my husband and I will gladly buy them.
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Karen
August 17th, 2009
10:38 am
You are so funny Bobbi.. Save that mess for the other post..We are trying to help people (especially children) who have food allergies and celtics disease..
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mford
August 17th, 2009
11:54 am
Bone: Not all of them are — please check the packaging. The brownie mix definitely says it “contains soy ingredients.” And there are many reasons why allergies are more prevalent in first-world countries. We no longer carry a host of parasites (ultimately a good thing); we have developed an “umbrella” of over-prescribed antibiotics that muck with the body’s natural ability to protect and heal itself; we live in areas where air quality is a concern; and many women in the U.S. choose not to breast feed, which immunizes your child from a host of problems, including allergies.
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Lisa
August 17th, 2009
4:20 pm
We’ve tried the BC brownies and choc chip cookies, and we love them both. We even tested them out on two different groups of friends. We ate 3/4 pan of brownies in one setting, and we ate a whole batch of cookies in another setting. No-one would’ve known they were GF without us telling them. So much better than other brands we’ve tried! Kudos to a mainstream company. But yes, they are a little pricey…
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Jessamyn
August 17th, 2009
4:30 pm
This is sad news for the City, for food lovers, and especially for people who appreciate Chess Pie. There may be other places like Son’s, but to me there is nothing that is quite as welcoming or as delicious.
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BPJ
August 17th, 2009
4:40 pm
One of our favorite Atlanta restaurants – best wishes to Dan for a successful operation and a speedy recovery!
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Sarita
August 17th, 2009
9:54 pm
You can get BC gf mixes on Amazon.com for $1 less about $3.69/box. I buy many of my gf baking products from amazon as its so much cheaper. You do have to buy in bulk so about 6 at a time but its worth it.
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KHeck
August 18th, 2009
12:07 am
Here is the correct link for the blog on the new Havana Sandwich Shop opening on Buford Hwy
http://blogs.ajc.com/table-talk-blog/2009/06/08/havana-sandwich-shop-to-open-again-on-buford/
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theseason
August 18th, 2009
7:00 am
Glad that Repast’ dropped off the list. I wouldn’t want anyone else to suffer a $25 disappointment. You would think the dishes should reflect their abilities. Instead, we felt they only had the bottom line in mind. To top it off, our server had to leave in a hurry to help the valet who had half the restaurant illegally parked in the City Hall East refueling depot across the street. Definitely left a bad a taste.
And yes, some of these restaurants can be dined at for $25 anyway. A faux deal. See if you can preview the promotion menu.
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Phil
August 18th, 2009
8:58 am
Chutney’s is fantastic! Located just a few blocks from the capitol on Mitchell Street.
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Atlanta Native
August 18th, 2009
12:11 pm
I have sworn off of buffets entirely – even Brazilian steak houses.
Himalayas in Chamblee is good, but no buffet. Haveli in Marietta had a buffet that was good, but I haven’t been in years.
I’ll have to try Chutney’s though, as I get sick of trying to find decent food near the government complex downtown.
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SteveR
August 18th, 2009
12:33 pm
SWAPNA INDIAN CUISINE 2655 Cobb Pkwy, Atlanta GA 30339 (a couple blocks north of I285 in the Cumberland area). Big buffet, with plenty of choices, including desserts. The only miss is the iced tea.
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reservoirDAWG
August 18th, 2009
1:11 pm
No buffets for me, thanks.
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ziza
August 18th, 2009
2:54 pm
maybe if he had opened on weekends…. he could have made it. loved deacon b’s but since i haven’t worked downtown in over a decade, i never made it to son’s. wish him well.
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Ken S
August 18th, 2009
3:06 pm
$15.00 . Must be for people not on a budget.
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mike
August 18th, 2009
3:35 pm
zaza is makin moves!
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George C
August 18th, 2009
3:36 pm
These pretzels, ARE MAKING ME THIRSTY!!!!
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Kitty Boo
August 18th, 2009
3:43 pm
Slam Dunk. Dudemens.
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Rob Vinson
August 18th, 2009
3:45 pm
I thought the food was overpriced and marginal at best. Considering whaqt he charged to eat there, i am surprised he couldn’t survive.
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Ben
August 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
Wish ZaZa was lifting weights instead of glasses of wine.
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Nu uh
August 18th, 2009
3:57 pm
Hopefully NOTHING about this wonderful place will change…
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Hamad Meander
August 18th, 2009
3:58 pm
I’m happy to see Zaza buy the restaurant – he is one of my favorite Hawks and it looks like he enjoys being here in Atlanta.
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GreenAcre
August 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
Is his sister Eva going to make an appearance?
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Erica
August 18th, 2009
4:13 pm
I love Barrelman, their staff, their events and their terrific selection! Don’t change a thing!
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blackout_dawg
August 18th, 2009
4:13 pm
Whatever….its football season. Even if it wasn’t, its the Hawks. Who cares?
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riley hawkins
August 18th, 2009
4:26 pm
BLESS UP ZAZA!
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Bakery
August 18th, 2009
4:26 pm
Is Zazu’s coming back!!! Yeah!!
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Madras
August 18th, 2009
4:42 pm
I love when athletes immerse themselves in the restaurant business. For every Mickey Mantle’s in NYC and Shannon’s in St Louis, there is Michael Vick’s in College Park or Phil Niekro’s Wing and Jim Beam Emporium, or Mike Fratello’s Short Stacks on Peachtree. Who among us will ever forget Jim Mora Jr.’s Pacific Rim.
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ML
August 18th, 2009
4:49 pm
$15 for two—at dinner even—is a heck-of-a-deal. My impression is much like Meredith’s: Not excellent, and a very good deal. The onion pakora ranked high, as did the frequent naan. I liked the tandori chicken, with the mango pickle chutney.
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dev
August 18th, 2009
4:50 pm
oohhh balle balle!! soniye!
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DawgsSuck
August 18th, 2009
4:53 pm
The Hawks are, and will continue to be, a perennial playoff team. The dogs will continue to be perennial under achievers.
Good luck Zaza.
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Becky
August 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
no buffets for me either..Thanks..
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MMmmmm MMmmmm
August 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
Nothing says good food like a serviceable big man.
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Obsessed with Georgia
August 18th, 2009
5:40 pm
Agreed DawgsSuck. I don’t know anything about college football but I know I love beating UGA once in a blue moon! Yay!
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GT Fan
August 18th, 2009
5:41 pm
I hope Zaza’s wife will eat there every night. She is sooo hot!
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GT Fan
August 18th, 2009
5:44 pm
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Joe
August 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
http://www.examiner.com/x-2723-Atlanta-Hawks-Examiner~y2009m8d18-Zaza-Pachulia-to-follow-in-the-footsteps-of-Mike-Ditka-Don-Shula-Michael-Vick
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RK
August 19th, 2009
10:37 am
Is Humboldt Fog a blue cheese? It is mold-ripened with white mold, and the dark areas (under the exterior, and in the middle) are ash.
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mford
August 19th, 2009
11:01 am
Good question RK — I think you are correct, since HF is more like morbier, with an ashen center line but technically not a blue. We should let chef Melvin know, too…
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Fangirl
August 19th, 2009
12:12 pm
I hope Dan has a very successful surgery!
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Yummy
August 19th, 2009
12:13 pm
How about Arizona’s on Tuner Hill.
The have great jazz music, great looking peopl and great food.
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Kathy
August 19th, 2009
1:03 pm
On Roswell Road, north of the Perimeter (285) there’s a resteraunt/club called Broadway Grill & Caberet. On the right side of the building, after you enter the front door is the club area. Many 40+ on that side.
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Patti and Bill
August 19th, 2009
1:04 pm
Wishing both Dan and Ticha a speedy recovery. Will see you both soon.
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Kay Cogburn
August 19th, 2009
1:11 pm
Best wishes on a successful surgery- I know you will be in the thoughts and prayers of many well wishers.
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Jane and Wayne Alexander
August 19th, 2009
3:13 pm
All good thoughts for the most successful surgery and recovery. We will be thinking of you!
Love from the whole Jane and Wayne Alexander family
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Rick
August 19th, 2009
3:38 pm
How about the Clermont Lounge?
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Penny and Don Fuller
August 19th, 2009
3:40 pm
Dan and Ticha you are both in our thoughts and prayers.
Penny, Don and the hounds
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Needabailout,too!
August 19th, 2009
4:30 pm
Eric Ripert, the hind leg and YES.
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Mac and Lynn Young
August 19th, 2009
5:40 pm
Ticha and Dan….we are out of town, but SO glad to hear this wonderful news! Have a speedy recovery and we look forward to getting back to Tierra and seeing both of you. Love, Lynn and Mac
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RK
August 19th, 2009
5:47 pm
Granted, I had to go look — I was positive about the ash in the center, but it does have the blue-mold taste to it. Wonderful cheese, whatever it is.
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Needabailout, too!
August 19th, 2009
9:39 pm
Wrong. Daniel Boulud, with the beloved Restaurant Troisgros in Roanne.
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M. C. and Bruce Casterline
August 19th, 2009
10:26 pm
So glad to hear you found a match. We look forward to seeing you as soon as you are feeling better and ready to re-open! We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. M. C. & Bruce
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August 20th, 2009
12:58 am
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Rodney
August 20th, 2009
11:04 am
That’s what I’m talking about! I may have to take a work@home day one soon Thursday and hop over to Athens for Wednesday night supper.
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Rodney
August 20th, 2009
11:11 am
I have an uncle, a very, very “country” uncle, who was working in the Inman Park area a few years ago and he just couldn’t believe how close to “Mamas” the food at Son’s was (his Mama being my Grandma). He said he felt like “them old women in there” were the women from his church serving up a Sunday luncheon in south Georgia.
He just couldn’t believe that “in the big city” he found a place he liked to eat (evidently, some folks think all we do is sit around drinking Starbucks and eating sashimi or $25.00 hamburgers).
Son’s was a great place for some soul-ish/country-ish food – it’ll be missed, for sure.
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philip
August 20th, 2009
11:58 am
i went to haveli in marietta last year and will definitely not go back. lahore grill in marietta is much better, but still mediocre at best; however, their vegetables were luke warm – a perfect setting for food bourne bacteria.
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Jennifer Harbin
August 20th, 2009
3:57 pm
WOW, we just celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary at Joel Brasserie a few days ago and it was a fantastic experience. Ms. Ford is sure making a 180 degree turn on her last official review of this restaurant. It appears that she and the “tipster” John Kessler are out to ensure that they hinder any chance that this restaurant has at surviving. Of course anyone who sees the “Rexall Diner” in Duluth as a culinary treat needs to have her taste buds examined. I sincerely hope that Chef Holota gets past this and we look forward to returning to the restaurant in the near future. Oh and shouldn’t a food critic limit his or her comments to the quality of the fare and service and not try to butt in to legal issues?
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Diva_Lady
August 20th, 2009
3:57 pm
Call Attorney Dwight Thomas…He’s the best in these situations.
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RK
August 20th, 2009
4:08 pm
“falling dramatically from grace”? What is that about? I think it is consistently great.
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Atlanta Native
August 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
Is Johnny’s Hideaway still open?
Friday nights at Aqua Blue had a 30+ crowd on Friday Nights that seemed pretty happening, but I have not been there since we became expatriates of Roswell. My wife and I loved to eat at the bar and watch the mating rituals play out.
We ate at Sia’s on 141 the other night and there was a disco night in the bar that had an older crowd. The food looked more appetizing than the single, though.
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jakesdad
August 20th, 2009
4:12 pm
too bad Cambell’s gone – I’m sure this could have been “expedited” during his tenure (”Mr Mayor, I found this briefcase full of unmarked, non-sequential bills outside your office – can you make sure it gets back to its rightful owner? oh, BTW – there’s been a little snafu w/our license & the change of ownership – what floor is that dept on?”…
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OneChris
August 20th, 2009
4:13 pm
only Mayor Franklin signs off on the license so it is all in who you know … time to kiss up if you want it expedited otherwise get in line …..Good luck!
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Stu G.
August 20th, 2009
4:14 pm
Sounds like comeone has a “meat cleaver” to grind. Meredith obviously has a thing for the old chef and a disdain for the new one. Its a shame that Ms. Ford calls herself a journalist. The title for this article should have been “I don’t have any proof, but Joel Brasserie sucks, believe me, I’m a food ‘critic’”
Oh please. Ms. Ford…if you are going to write such a poor article, at least make it so outrageous that we all get a good laugh out it. Please pander somewhere else. Joel Brasserie as it is, is just find.
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Matt
August 20th, 2009
4:20 pm
When will we have a Portuguese restaurant in Atlanta? Would be nice…
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Mike
August 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
“Falling from grace…”. I am often suspicious of the motives of these official reviewers. Ford absolutely slammed one of my absolute favorite new restaurants a few weeks back.
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TH
August 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
Panahar on Buford Hwy does a great lunch buffet for $8.00/pp. Its Bangladeshi cuisine (similar to Indian). They offer a variety of meat & veg dishes, soup, naan and some rice pudding & fruit for dessert. Mirza, the owner is very friendly and will give you his recommendations- example-what chutneys go best with a dish. And they don’t charge a corking fee if you BYOB!! I highly recommend Panahar!!
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Darin
August 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
Thanks for the reminder about Kurt’s & Vreny’s. I’ve been meaning to make it up there and keep forgetting. I really like German food and wish there were some good options for it intown.
Incidentally, my wife and I were driving back from Marietta on Atlanta Road a couple of weeks ago (returning from a pilgrimage to Douceur de France) and found a really nice German bakery called Bernhards. Very good bread and pastries.
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J
August 20th, 2009
4:37 pm
I thought AJC gave the new chef a great review not so long ago. I love this restaurant. Not so wild about the AJC spreading word of something that is unfortunate but not unheard of as if this is the end of the far above average restaurant. Isn’t there something real in the food business rather than this sort of pithy tripe?
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sad brotha
August 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
Sista Shirley will be glad to help out… just wait in line with all the other whiteys. They don’t need no money… she be lam’in like a duck.
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what_what
August 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
first this article has almost no information content. secondly, wtf??? she writes
…… exit of former chef-owner Joel Antunes for a high-profile gig at the renovated Oak Room inside the Plaza Hotel in New York
ok he is working in nyc
but then she writes
As for Joel Antunes, friends say he is spending time between a chef’s gig in Bali and London, where his friend and super-chef Daniel Boulud is said to be trying to obtain a position for him …
huh?????
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M
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Can they still serve beer and wine?
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Nu uh
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
ONEChris is dead on it… Shirley just overruled on the Liquor Board’s denial of a bar on Peter’s Street in Castelberry Hill that wanted an entertainment license so they could hold parties all night long. the neighborhood said “no.” The Liquor Board said “no.” But for some reason Shirley said yes, even though the proprietor has a lengthy criminal history to boot.
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Chocolate Habenero
August 20th, 2009
4:55 pm
Thanks for the info. I was planning on taking a group to Joel next weekend. It’s a group of heavy drinkers. I’ll book elsewhere now, but will certainly go back to Joel as soon as the liscense is reinstated. The pastries there are perfection.
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disco duck
August 20th, 2009
5:16 pm
Trilogy in East Cobb
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blackcatgraycat
August 20th, 2009
5:18 pm
Hello folks — if a high-end restaurant abrupty stops serving wine and other alcohol, the regulars will find out and word will spread. Restaurants make a lot of their money on the booze, and folks who go to higher-end places generally expect to be able to have a glass of wine with their meal. This is news if you’re really a foody.
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virgilshouse
August 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
the geritol section at walgreens
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HERBIE
August 20th, 2009
5:27 pm
M you are stupid
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MB
August 20th, 2009
5:33 pm
Of course it was tipped to you by John Kessler…he actually knows what he’s doing.
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RK
August 20th, 2009
5:36 pm
Joel Antunes left for the Oak Room, but was then fired months later…
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BenThere
August 20th, 2009
5:40 pm
Oh drama. Did someone not comp your dinner, Ms. Ford Goldman? “…falling dramatically from grace…”, The only thing dramatic here is your statement. Grow up.
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nadia
August 20th, 2009
6:01 pm
Social in downtown atlanta, awsome spot
12 West Peachtree Place , Atl 30308
http://www.socialintown.com
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likes good food
August 20th, 2009
6:07 pm
I guess that the new people running Joel don’t have Meredith Ford on the payroll – hence the negative comments. She’s the worst food critic in the world flaunts her position of food critic when going to a restaurant; how can that possibly give her a clear impression of a restaurant?
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Tim
August 20th, 2009
6:34 pm
Does Joel Antunes still own this restaurant?
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Janea Boyles
August 20th, 2009
6:35 pm
It is REALLY hard to get an alcohol license in this city. It’s apparently no easier to change the name on a license then it is to get a new one in Atlanta . Getting legal assistance for this is recommended and really quite necessary because of the wavy conundrum of Atlanta’s ordinances. I think it unfair, however, to insinuate the lack of or loss of an alcohol license is a result of someone’s bad business sense or is because of the reputation of the former chef. Moreover, I think we all need to speak up to our elected officials that if we are going to become the world class city Atlanta is desperately driving towards with top notch food on every corner in every neighborhood, these ordinances, and the people who oversee them, need continued evaluation. I have not had the opportunity to dine at Joel in several years, but I’m willing to bet that most of the people working there have been giving every ounce of themselves to keep the place going, put great food out, drive business in this difficult economy, and deal with day to day operations. Chalking this up as yet another bit of bad behavior or arrogant negligence? Is that really fair based on the information in this article? I hope for the sake of the jobs that Joel Brasserie offers to people, the guests who have their life experiences there and the passion that goes into any restaurant of that nature, that they get their license very soon. In the meantime, the lawyers get all the money, the journalists get all the say so and small businesses scratch and struggle to make an identity for themselves in Atlanta. Rock on, independents. Let’s not let these times get us down!
-Janea Boyles, The Mercantile
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Tye
August 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
They won’t make it a month.
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David Duncan
August 20th, 2009
6:55 pm
Hands down Madras Grille on Lawrenceville Highway is not only a great deal, but the best Indian food in all of Atlanta
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KevinGT
August 20th, 2009
7:06 pm
Lay everyone off and close for one month. That way everyone gets a quick one month vacation paid for by the Department of Labor. Owners can save some money and everyone can relax before having a massive grand reopening! Maybe a new name just for kicks! Lots of opportunity if handled correctly.
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AW
August 20th, 2009
8:58 pm
As a former patron of Joel under Joel Antunes, and a regular patron of Joel Brasserie (including recent experiences) I have consistently had not only standout meals, but also superior service. I can’t imagine what kind of supporting evidence there is that the restaurant “has been dramatically falling from grace.” Whose grace? What fall? The only thing I’ve actually seen fall are some of the prices with the addition of new brasserie menu items. I look forward to another great meal again at Joel very soon. And an even better dining experience once their liquor license is restored (and I can enjoy one of the fabulous wines from their wine list!)
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Janea Boyles
August 20th, 2009
9:06 pm
It is REALLY hard to get an alcohol license in this city. It’s apparently no easier to change the name on a license then it is to get a new one in Atlanta . Getting legal assistance for this is recommended and really quite necessary because of the wavy conundrum of Atlanta’s ordinances. I think it unfair, however, to insinuate the lack of or loss of an alcohol license is a result of someone’s bad business sense. Moreover, I think we all need to speak up to our elected officials that if we are going to become the world class city Atlanta is desperately driving towards with top notch food on every corner in every neighborhood, these ordinances, and the people who oversee them, need continued evaluation. I have not had the opportunity to dine at Joel in several years, but I’m willing to bet that most of the people working there have been giving every ounce of themselves to keep the place going, put great food out, drive business in this difficult economy, and deal with day to day operations. Chalking this up as yet another bit of bad behavior or arrogant negligence? Is that really fair based on the information in this article? I hope for the sake of the jobs that Joel Brasserie offers to people, the guests who have their life experiences there and the passion that goes into any restaurant of that nature, that their license is granted very soon! In the meantime, the lawyers get all the money, the journalists get all the say so and small businesses scratch and struggle to make an identity for themselves in Atlanta. Rock on, independents. Let’s not let these times get us down!
-Janea Boyles, The Mercantile
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Lullwater
August 20th, 2009
9:23 pm
A story like this that is so off-topic, biased and poorly written casts a spurious shadow that I hope the AJC cleans up by finding a professional in the future to write in the this void.
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Susan Scarbrough
August 20th, 2009
10:35 pm
Dude. It’s really hard to get a liquor license in this town. The fact that Holata doesn’t have one doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s a bad businessman. The whisper of an implication that he’s running the restaurant into the ground is just egregious.
It’s not Ford-Goldman’s job to be nice, but it sure would be decent of her to be…decent.
Give the man a chance, for crying out loud.
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Carolyn Ribeiro
August 20th, 2009
10:39 pm
I just heard about Betty Crocker gluten free products today from my daughter who lives in Louisiana. I live in Oregon and have never seen it at the grocery store nor heard about BC gluten free products. Is it just regional?
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Buzzer
August 20th, 2009
10:51 pm
I’ll take all bets that Joel Brasserie makes it. In the meantime I’ll drink my wine elsewhere and look forward to this restaurants re-birth in the near future. I sincerely hope they can pull this off and it would be a feather in the City of Atlanta’s cap to assist them as much as they can within the framework of the city’s ordinances. Does the city realize that this will have a domino effect if this restaurant closes,an the city afford to lose the tax revenues generated and the spendable incomes of the restaurant’s employees? Exceptions to the rules can and have been made and I think that in the case of a restaurant of this calibre, consideration should be made. Just my two cents. Best of Luck Chef Holota, I’m rooting for you (unlike the author of this blog).
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blake
August 21st, 2009
8:01 am
Uh…okay, love ya, but…..in the end you are a journalist…and I am still NOT reading WHY Joel lost the liquor license….!?
Gumshoe 101….tell the story!
Your idea of telling 1/2 the story without the details (”Second there are sometimes part of the story….Let’s just suffice it to say that I know more than I can print…”) Head back to journalism school quickly, because it sounds like you are a graduate of the Fox News School of Journalis and graduated Murdoch Cum Laude!
Love ya, love your reviews…but frankly embarassed for you. Read your own article and show it to ten people in the biz who don’t know you and solicit some feedback. You completely missed the mark.
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mford
August 21st, 2009
8:09 am
Blake: That’s fair enough. The license has Joel Antunes name on it and since he’s no longer associated with the restaurant, it has to be changed. That was stated in the post.
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Stan
August 21st, 2009
8:44 am
MFG, Don’t worry about it. There are schumcks posting on all the AJC blogs. Heck I’m one from time to time.
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Kim
August 21st, 2009
8:55 am
I have to agree with Blake, your excuse sounds pretty lame and FOXy to me as well. I think that your readers have hit a nerve and taken you down a notch. The written word is a powerful tool and I you have abused it.
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Ralph
August 21st, 2009
9:24 am
You are exactly right Meredith. Wine is a part of the dining experience and I would certainly want to know if a fine restaurant didn’t have a liquor license. I believe Kim and Blake can be ignored because a fine dining experience to them is a hamburger from a burger joint.
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WH
August 21st, 2009
9:53 am
Meredith Ford? Isn’t that a used car dealership in NJ? Why on earth do they think they have the right to kick around a fantastic Chef and all of his exceptional staff who would probably like nothing better than to serve YOU the best way they can, considering, only to find a “wanna be food critic/reporter” knock them all down with the strike of a pen (in this economy). We love JOEL, their ambience and their servers/staff. Ms. MF is complaining this morning that she was “misinterpreted” by the readers. Does she even read her own stuff? Falling from Grace? is she “reporting” from her experience since the Kessler’s “transfer”? Who cares about the ill-fated “laid-off” Joel, his whereabouts or who he is in bed with while in Asia? Maybe they need a “1 star” food critic in Bali! As for the City of Atlanta’s doing: one more reason NOT to socialize this country Health system: On the menu would be red tape appetizers with a moron vinaigrette, a “dragging everybody around for months” entree, finishing with a delightful serving of higher taxes topped with a flavorful permanence. I can see a new reality show on the Bali horizon: The Shirley Franklin, Meredith Ford and Joel Antunes show, straight from Bali: falling from Grace! Hold the press!!!
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Kevrock/Smarty Jones
August 21st, 2009
10:56 am
Good God Folks! She just reported they lost their liquor license.
It sounds like a lot of you worked there and now are going to lose your tips, etc….It’s not your fault but the new owners.
The city of ATL should not let another business and TAX REVENUE go out of business for this reason. Come on Atlanta get it together. You blew it with Buchhead and lost MILLIONS for your dumbheaded moves before.
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J
August 21st, 2009
11:49 am
Actually Kevrock/Smarty Jones – most people are pointing out that she wrote a glowing report about the new chef and the food in the spring. That many frequent the restaurant and not sure what she means by “fall from grace.” She has been 1) Remarkable inconsistent as a journalist who writes about food for a living. 2) She didn’t just say they lost their liquor license, she went on to strongly hint at the restaurant closing – if that were the case, we all would appreciate some sources on that topic rather than what is here.
The point many are making is that it seems to be a silly article in the first place and poorly written at that – would be nice for an article to have real meaning.
Facts and information should be a part of a good reporter’s regular work – Ms Ford has none of these qualities. When the AJC went through its reorganization – we got left with a trash rag. Unfortunate for a major city.
Meanwhile – you can take pot shots at Buckhead if you wish – easy target.
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BShepCarlin
August 21st, 2009
12:02 pm
Saw nothing wrong with your report that Joel lost liquor license. You said why. Didn’t seem to bash it in my mind. Some people just need something to whine about…
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RK
August 21st, 2009
12:21 pm
The issue wasn’t with the revocation of the liquor license — that, in itself, is newsworthy and should be passed on to Atlanta diners. What caught me was the “falling dramatically from grace” portion; without any evidence to back this up, it just seemed negative and derisive. Had it been stated that you had information to support this, but couldn’t reveal it (as you have said now), then I think it would’ve been accepted as how you had intended.
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JOËL BRASSERIE will remain open, PR rep says | Omnivore Atlanta
August 21st, 2009
12:30 pm
[...] reported yesterday by Meredith Ford in the AJC , JOËL BRASSERIE is currently without a liquor license. Since then, rumors have been flying that the restaurant would potentially be closing next week. [...]
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P
August 21st, 2009
2:39 pm
Defensive much?
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Kevrock/Smarty Jones
August 21st, 2009
2:45 pm
Buzzkills above!! Listen….She only reported that their liquor license was revoked. Good God folks get a life. This reporter has written countless great reviews about this place. Now if the city of Atlanta has any sense(right now that’s in question) they would not let a business fail for this simple reason and LOSE a lot of tax revenue. Good Job Meredith for letting me know this because I was looking into reservations in the next couple of weeks and this would have ruined the whole experience if we were not able to partake in their excellent wines that they have. Keep up the GOOD WORK!!!
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Melanie
August 21st, 2009
3:19 pm
Sage in Alpharetta on Thursday nights. Def a happening place after dinner.
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JC
August 21st, 2009
6:57 pm
My husband and I have been enjoying JOEL for the past few years and the food has been amazing and more importantly consistent everytime. I enjoy the new chef, Cyrille much more than former chef Joel. On more than one occassion, we have seen Cyrille come out from behind the kitchen and engage with his customers which is something I had never seen from the previous Chef. To me, that shows he cares and to say that the restaurant has fallen from grace since the exit of Joel couldnt’t be farther from the truth. We can’t wait to go back and wish them the best of luck.
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journalist
August 21st, 2009
10:57 pm
Meredith suffered probably sudden short memory loss when she was writing this article. She forgot probably about the great review she gave Joel restaurant and Holota in the spring mentioning that food tastes even better. Think twice before you write next time Meredith, this made you to look really unprofessional.
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Aquagirl
August 22nd, 2009
8:19 am
Sadly enough, the Blog Krap Krowd doesn’t understand why you wouldn’t print what you can’t substantiate. The idea of confirming information or maintaining professionalism is unknown in the blogosphere. Ignore those whiners, Meridith.
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Tom P
August 22nd, 2009
9:31 am
Seriously, take the critisim and live with it. I generally like your reviews, but the problem isn’t reporting the facts of the story… it’s the comment that the restaurant was falling dramatically from grace. Where does that fit into fact based reporting or duty to the readers? It was just unjustified. And worse yet, you still don’t reconize it.
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Cincinatti Bowtie
August 22nd, 2009
10:22 am
You should enjoy this M gold, you never usually get any posts on your blog.
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Malcolm Xmas
August 22nd, 2009
10:50 am
BTW: La = spicy, ton = hot.
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Jaspal
August 22nd, 2009
4:13 pm
Hi All, My daughter who is 5 yrs, is suffering from celiac disease. In India very few people are aware of this disease because it is not so common. We have a backery near to our house and the owner makes gluten free Bread, cake, Biscuts, cookies and many more other products. If any body intrested in these gluten free products can contact on jaspal_skalsi@yahoo.com
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brazil = caipirinha
August 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
I haven’t seen this book – but I’m all about the caipirinha ever since I went to Rio in March. i always try to get the ones made with leblon when i can find it. i had them at my hotel in ipanema. very good
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Concentrics’ Bakeshop to open on Peachtree — Chris Heisel
August 22nd, 2009
11:01 pm
[...] Concentrics’ Bakeshop to open on Peachtree – Glad that something is moving into the Gold Star spot on Peachtree. Not sure I wanted it to be a tempting patisserie! [...]
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Marlys Bergstrom
August 23rd, 2009
3:28 pm
Ra needs to get over itself! Went there yesterday to have cocktails on the patio. It was not crowded so we sat ourselves on the patio, as instructed by the hostess. When the waitress came over she told us that we could not sit at the table because they were reserved for parties of 4 or more and we needed to go sit at the bar…for which there was no room. Although there were at least 4 of these 4 or more tables. We told her we were just having one drink. She told us she would need to ask her manager. Not used to such horrible service in Atlanta we got up and left. We talked to the hostess and said we would never be back and smiling and nodding she said, OK. I have never been to such a pretentious and arrogant restaurant. I will continue to give my business to Steel.
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mike
August 23rd, 2009
7:15 pm
wartdog if you are ever near st petersburg fl go over the skyway bridge to the crab trap II it is palmetto fl about 30 minutes south of st pete they have danish lobster tails they are great i dont know about the pasta
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Amy
August 23rd, 2009
11:13 pm
Marshall at C&S Oyster mixes a delicious French 75! My husband and brother in law grew up in Brazil and report that Sal Grosso makes one of the best caipirnhas in town. The ice used for the Caipirnhas at Beleza is not quite right (it’s crushed) but their interpretation is very good, if you can get past the crushed ice and bad attitude dished out by the coctail servers.
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AJ
August 24th, 2009
10:11 am
As you said Meredith, there are so many cupcake places opening up. One thing I noticed is that most of the cupcakes are DRY. I love icing, but even the best icing can’t hide DRY cupcakes. I went to Cami’s once and have tried 2 cupcakes. Both were very moist and the frosting was great too. Definitely will be my go to place for cupcakes. As this place is not in the most visible shopping center (next to the BP, across from Justin’s (I think)), I hope it does well. Good luck Cami’s mom!!
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Jim
August 24th, 2009
10:23 am
Meredith,
Thanks for at least trying to get people to understand the difference between “on the record”, “on background” and “off the record”.
FOR the record, she’s right, a lot of times you’ll hear something that you get from a source that you are personally 100 percent sure is true. However, they may not be able to go on the record (for a variety of reasons) or you may not be able to substantiate it from another source, which is required.
In those cases, you have to go with your gut feeling as to whether it’s good information or not. If you think it is, you’ll almost certanly let it have some effect on your story.
As an example, if I’m writing a story on a teenager with cancer, and I hear from someone involved medically that they may have only weeks to live, and get it from someone I believe, yet cannot substantiate it, I’m going to write a much different story than I would if the same person said they were well on the way to a full recovery.
These are the times when you find out if you’re a journalist or not-do you go with your gut feeling, and if so, how far? Either way, there are simply things you cannot say, because you cannot substantiate them-at least a good journalist won’t. So maybe the ones criticizing your J skills need the remedial ethics course.
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jen
August 24th, 2009
10:23 am
The red velvet is to die for!! Delicious and beautiful.
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BY
August 24th, 2009
10:27 am
I agree – I have tried almost every cupcake place in town and if they were all dry (maybe not on every occasion, but certainly moisture was elusive). However, CamiCakes has had moist, delicious cupcakes both times I’ve tried them and in all flavors sampled (sweet potato, chocolate peanut butter and chocolate).
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BY
August 24th, 2009
10:28 am
Also, since it’s just up the street from Varasano’s, you can try one of the city’s myriad (but good) pizza places and come here for dessert (if you eat early – CamiCakes closes at 8 or 8:30).
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alan
August 24th, 2009
11:05 am
I make all’ Amatrician at home using panchetta instead of pig jowls, and crushed red pepper flakes in stead of black pepper. I get the panchetta in Publix as a chunk. I glad to know that someone is making it in Atlanta. I’ve eaten it in NY but have not seen it here. It’s really a great dish and people should try it either in the restaurant or make it at home
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Tyree
August 24th, 2009
11:32 am
The Dan Dan noodles are simply amazing at Tasty China. I prefer them with pork. The staff also keeps a keen eye on your water glass. Given the fire that comes out the kitchen at this place it’s a virtue. Atmosphere is zero. Food is spot on.
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Sunny
August 24th, 2009
11:46 am
Thank you so much for this article! I’ve been searching for a quality cupcake bakery in Atlanta since my beloved Sprinkles has yet to make it’s debut in the city. I will be trying CamiCakes today since they reviews seem to be quite positive.
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Summer
August 24th, 2009
11:46 am
I have been to Cami’s at least once a week and I have tried just about all of their cupcakes, I am such a fan that I take some to my friends that live on the other side of town just so they can enjoy also. It would be great if they were more visible, but the cupcakes are addictive!!! Good luck Cami Cakes.
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bobby rufkin
August 24th, 2009
12:09 pm
the grits at waffle house on clairmont and I-85 rock…
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Slowmo
August 24th, 2009
12:33 pm
Anyone here try the big mac at the McDonalds on South Cobb Dr. It’s the best in Atlanta.
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Cece
August 24th, 2009
12:40 pm
I totally agree. I went to Suhi House for dinner one night and trotted over to Cami’s for a treat. These are really, really good cupcakes. I’m not a huge fan of icing, but her’s was fantastic. I recommend Cami’s to everyone. (And Sushi House is pretty doggone good, too!)
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43
August 24th, 2009
12:44 pm
Big Mac? You don’t get out much huh slowmo?
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FatMan
August 24th, 2009
12:46 pm
The 2/3 pound Monster Thickburger at Hardees in Kennesaw is the best in town!
Two 1/3 lb. charbroiled 100% Black Angus beef patties, 4 strips of bacon, 3 slices of American cheese and mayonnaise on a sesame seed bun.
I could barely finish it with my fries and chocolate shake!!!
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buck
August 24th, 2009
1:10 pm
FatMan
You arteries are clogging as we speak……..
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Restaurant Critics and Anonymity | Food and More with John Kessler
August 24th, 2009
1:26 pm
[...] AJC’s dining critic, Meridith Ford Goldman, offers an interesting take on the issue as [...]
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M
August 24th, 2009
1:53 pm
I have eaten at JCT’s Kitchen and will have to say that it was amazing! The food was not too pricey and was worth the expense.
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tony
August 24th, 2009
2:02 pm
Typo in the second sentence. Pathetic. Stick to eating.
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Slim and trim
August 24th, 2009
2:04 pm
Don’t fool yourself, just because a cup cake is smaller, you’re still eating junk food. Thanks for raising the cost of healthcare. Truth hurts doesn’t it?
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jimmy
August 24th, 2009
2:18 pm
It seems like some people get caught up in the “you shouldn’t do ___” with particular ingredients, rather than judging the results. It makes the judges job easy, and do we really expect the other judges to speak up and say that they liked the taste of the steak after Wolfgang and Tom had their little giggle-fest when Tom asked Wolfgang what he would do if one of his chefs deep fried a steak at Cut.
It’s just TV, but I think those kinds of comments lead to food snobbery.
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madmommy
August 24th, 2009
2:23 pm
Slim and Trim, everything in moderation is fine. I am also Slim and Trim, but I will eat one from time to time if I want to. No one is saying they ate the whole thing or more than one. Geez, relax will ya.
I also agree that most are really dry and the frosting can tend to be a bit to sweet for my liking. Being that I love to cook, I try to make them with the least amount of fat and sugar possible without anyone being any the wiser. Most people can’t even tell that I take things out and put in “extra’s.”
I will have to check this place out, esp. since my cat’s name is Camille.
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Goldfishy
August 24th, 2009
2:37 pm
I have them on my speed dial. Delish! Be sure to try the Elvis.
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mamaj
August 24th, 2009
2:40 pm
Slim and Trim, your attitude toward just eating a simple cupcake may be a good reason for YOU to try one. A little sugar every once and again does wonders for a person, and you should know that graveyards also contain healthy people.
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Rodney
August 24th, 2009
2:49 pm
Food snobbery is not a bad thing, as long as you accept varying preparations and maybe give something a taste before deciding it’s an affront.
I’ll just bet that the fried steak (and I’d love to get to P.Vida to try it) is a tasty thing. Sure, I prefer my steak warm, buttery-soft and bloody but hey, deep-frying a shoe might taste good if it’s seasoned well.
I think they were a little too hard on Chef Hector for the simple fact that he deep fried it.
And again I say “GO, ATL THREE!!”
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SAZ
August 24th, 2009
2:58 pm
Sorry – in spite of the journalistic ethics lesson, I agree with Tom P. If you can’t substantiate, the language should be far more moderate than “falling dramatically from grace”. The last posting only adds more fuel to the fire (there are things I can’t tell you about)… Your comments minimize your own responsibilities all the while deflectively pointing to a vague mystery of which we cannot possibly be aware.
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Stacy
August 24th, 2009
2:58 pm
enough with the “overwieght people have feelings too” speeches, can we stick to the topic? Lecturing Slim and Trim with your dime store wisdom is just as annoying, if not more so. People always get defensive about healthy living, rather than using that energy to get in shape.
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Cupcake Monster
August 24th, 2009
3:01 pm
mmm…cupcakes….yum..yum..diabetes…good..
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Ty Pike
August 24th, 2009
3:08 pm
Forget restaurants, just give me some of my dad’s bbq any day of the week. Ya heard me?
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VoiceOf Reason
August 24th, 2009
3:18 pm
Please folks,
Do you really think someone that is Slim & Trim would stalk a blog on cupcakes just to further their political agenda. I’m sure Slim and Trim is really Chunky, Lonely and Mad About it. That’s why they want to make the rest of us feel bad too. SORRY, not gonna happen!
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TeaBag Pike
August 24th, 2009
3:58 pm
The best is Dad’s home-made vinegar based BBQ sauce. Nothing can top it…not even Sonny’s. We stopped eating out all together because Dad’s BBQ was just too darn good. He even makes his own sweat tea with fresh teabags to help wash it down.
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SexyCool - First name, Crazy.
August 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
I am reading these comments thinking that either the owner, the employees or all are making these comments.
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RK
August 24th, 2009
4:14 pm
I’m surprised Tom C didn’t say “Honor Thy Protein”.
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Alabama Jack
August 24th, 2009
4:18 pm
Love that sweat tea – NOT
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Phildo
August 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
Typical pretentious snobbery found in this section. I’ll go with anybody’s ribs, including TeaBar Pike, who I don’t know.
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Hans
August 24th, 2009
4:43 pm
German Bierfest this weekend (8/29) http://www.germanbierfest.com/
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Cami's Neighbors
August 24th, 2009
4:45 pm
I can guarantee you, SexyCool, that the owner is most definitely NOT making great comments herself. I manage a business right next to hers, and she is PACKED all day long. She spends most of her time running between here and Florida to mangage three locations. She has a great reputation because she sells a great product and gives great service. Live with it.
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SA
August 24th, 2009
5:17 pm
If you cannot print what you know, the report should have reported the loss of the license and that they have applied for a new one. Period, the end. I reread the original post and still think it was spiteful and unprofessional.
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CamiCake camouflage
August 24th, 2009
5:22 pm
I agree, something smells like a fishy cupcake, but I know better: it’s the PR chick for CamiCakes who is posting the glowing comments that contain a sentence in parenthesis: (Darling, the Average Joe don’t make blog entries with (…) that’s the mark of a lame publicist.) And striking up a bogus, albeit articulate (the giveaway), convo over stoopid cupcakes. Mrs. Hall please give ur PR chick a pink cupcake with her last check! She’s using a played-out playbook by posting bogus flatteries, this sours the palette. My faves: the peanut butter & chocolate, sweet potato and red velvet, they’re decadent distractions from that vile four-letter word: diet.
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Cup Cake Authority
August 24th, 2009
6:44 pm
I have been all over the world, from new delhi to hamburg, and Cami Cakes is the best place is the entire world for cup cakes. I give my seal of approval.
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Charles
August 24th, 2009
7:08 pm
Why do you continue to highlight intown restaurants when there are so many fantistic restaurants outside the Perimeter and your predomitly readership is not ntown?
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wreckmaniac
August 24th, 2009
7:23 pm
Whatever happened to Honto in Chamblee ? In the 80’s it was the best
Chinese, especially fish, in town.
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kevin weso
August 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
Great news, as a former member of the USAF in Turkey, my children and I loved to visit the 57th Fighter Squadron. They used to have a great Sunday brunch. I think in part my son became a pilot because of our frequent visits. I look forward to taking my grandsons there when they reopen. Thanks for the update.
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Mr. WhatDoIKnow
August 24th, 2009
10:14 pm
I hear mford is recognized when the restaurant staff and management see her taking their menus . . .
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Sunny
August 24th, 2009
10:20 pm
Soooooooooo, I tried this bakery today and I must say, I’m impressed. They were of very high quality and very moist – the Red Velvet was almost TOO moist for me. Overall, I enjoyed the flavors we chose and will be back. Thanks again MFG!
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Rick B
August 24th, 2009
10:44 pm
Your mom goes to college
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david
August 24th, 2009
11:39 pm
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wingman
August 25th, 2009
9:43 am
im new to town and my favorite wing joint is wing factory.. the hot lemon pepper and the inferno are exceptional. Does anyone know of a better wing place?
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Becky
August 25th, 2009
10:06 am
I’m not a big cake person, but I checked out the website for this place and boy do they look (and sound) yummmmmy..I would be willing to make a trip over to try the sweet potato cupcake…
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Lionel
August 25th, 2009
10:54 am
CamiCake Camouflage is hatin. How u gon say someones pumping up a cupcake then follow it with which ones are your faves? Maybe u need to go sit down somewhere have a red velvet or sweet potato camicake and be happy.
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Tyler Pike
August 25th, 2009
11:15 am
I’ll tell you something wingman, Wing Factory is pretty dope but nothing and I mean NOTHING is touching my dad’s wings. If some of ya’ll on here want some real wings from my dad, drop me a line and we can hook it up. I’m telling you, his wings are better than anything you’ve ever tasted. I thought I’d had some pretty good wings when I visited Sonny’s one time but no, daddy really does it right. Holla if ya heard me.
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BY
August 25th, 2009
11:17 am
Trust me, CamiCake Camouflage, I’m not the PR person for Cami Cakes (but I wish I were). In fact, I will work for free cupcakes. And btw, Slim and Trim, I actually am slim, trim and healthy as well. Training for a marathon will allow me some leeway in the cupcake department.
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wingman
August 25th, 2009
11:19 am
ill take you up on that cowboy.
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Becky
August 25th, 2009
12:07 pm
VoiceOfReason, you said it all..
I’m going to day one day regardless if I’m fat or skinny, so if I want to eat a cupcake once in a while, I will..If that bothers others, get over it..
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P Lewis
August 25th, 2009
12:28 pm
This is great news….they used to serve the best beer cheese soup. I hope it’s back on the menu
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Don't call me "Betty", fool!
August 25th, 2009
1:47 pm
Every fall I love to make a pear and apple “crisp” – fruit and sugar go on the bottom, topped with crumbles of flour, brown sugar, butter, and cinnamon, then baked. This is similar to what you mentioned above for a “betty” – but I always thought the traditional topping for a “betty” started with bread crumbs.
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Imme Jay
August 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
CamiCakes CamiCakes CamiCakes! I couldn’t believe how delicious they are! They taste better than they look! My favorite CamiCake is the Sweet potato pie…. banana cream…OMG! If you’ve never been there get there! The photographer took lots of great photos… see CamiCakes for yourself!
Warning: You will want to eat your monitor
Enjoy! Here’s the links
Grand Opening
http://picasaweb.google.com/NekaRazzi/CamiCakesCupcakesGrandOpening?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/NekaRazzi/CamiCakesCupcakesPhotoShoot?feat=directlink
http://www.NekaRazzi.com
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Imme Rose
August 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
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Imme Rose
August 25th, 2009
2:28 pm
I hope I’m not double posting…. I wanted to make sure I shared the photos
http://picasaweb.google.com/NekaRazzi/CamiCakesCupcakesPhotoShoot?feat=directlink
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Imme Rose
August 25th, 2009
2:31 pm
CamiCakes definitely taste better than they look…. and as you can see….. THEY LOOK DELISH!
I came across the grand opening photos googling CamiCakes
Enjoy
http://picasaweb.google.com/NekaRazzi/CamiCakesCupcakesGrandOpening?feat=directlink
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reservoirDAWG
August 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
Dang, now I’m hungry. Here I am trying to drop about 20 and MF is talking pie.
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Ich Bin Ein Atlantan
August 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
why won’t that BY flack give it up? sheesh! what a know it all!
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The Marshall's
August 25th, 2009
11:07 pm
They don’t do doggie biscuits but the Brewhouse in Little 5 Points has a great doggie friendy patio.
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mford
August 26th, 2009
7:45 am
not “Betty”: True, traditional betties often had leftover bread crumbs on top — it was a great way to utilize stale bread. And I love crisps, where the topping is sprinkled, as you mention, and either baked or sometimes broiled. Yum. Thanks!
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Billy
August 26th, 2009
8:27 am
Glad to see that Sauced is finally closer to opening.
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RK
August 26th, 2009
9:19 am
Did Joel get its liquor license back? They posted something on Facebook yesterday about their Tuesday wine specials.
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nose for baloney
August 26th, 2009
10:37 am
“myriad” pizza places? really, BY?
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Sha
August 26th, 2009
7:26 pm
I had my first Bellini at Brios here in Atlanta at a birthday Celebratio n for me. It was very refreshing:)
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Tim
August 26th, 2009
8:10 pm
I agree the caipirinha is king!!!
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Clint Eastwood
August 26th, 2009
8:28 pm
Just man up and have a bourbon on the rocks!
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Please email me when it opens,yhanks
August 26th, 2009
8:49 pm
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JB
August 26th, 2009
9:54 pm
The best mojitos in town can be found at Noche or Pura Vida.
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RB
August 26th, 2009
10:31 pm
The caipirhinia is one of my favorite drinks…. I buy 51 Cachaca… One lime cut in quarters…. I tablespoon of sugar – muddled to death… crushed ice to the top of the glass (must be crushed – cubed ice does not make this drink a winner)… then pour the Cachaca over it and stir… OMG! The best – and you only need ONE! At least I do, when I make them at home…
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Vodka Doll
August 26th, 2009
10:59 pm
Vodka and tonic with a twist of lime! Ketel One please!
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whiskyright
August 27th, 2009
12:04 am
With all do respect Mr. Eastwood, “man up” and take your whiskey neat……..
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Beaver Cleaver
August 27th, 2009
12:36 am
Carrabba’s Carrabbarita is the best Margarita in town…they use Amaretto! MMMmmmm~
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shaggy
August 27th, 2009
6:38 am
I like the ones that grow in cow patties after a good rain. Except, they taste terrible.
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Aunt KImmy!
August 27th, 2009
7:28 am
Sammy-
Knock their socks off w/your menu!!!
AK
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Tiny
August 27th, 2009
8:39 am
For all you “men” out there, it is clear that you’ve never had a Blenheim’s. That stuff will put hairs on your chest. I think the Maker’s Mark is actually the mixer for the Blenheim’s.
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whatever you drink...
August 27th, 2009
8:58 am
learn how it’s made. the best spirits are distilled in small batch, copper pot stills. Single malts, small batch bourbons, cognacs, etc. are all made in the alembique process. Column stills produce the mass spirit brands which include all of the nasty, headache-producing cogeners and acetones that you want to avoid. you can usually tell by simply smelling the liquor.
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Saint Simons
August 27th, 2009
9:22 am
((((( 45 42))))) hahahahahahahahahaha
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RK
August 27th, 2009
10:01 am
I was expecting some Spanish standards — patatas bravas y alioli, gambas al ajillo, pulpo gallego, for example.
2 oz of jamon iberico for $11? That’s a good deal.
And the cheese is not “Idiazabel”, it is “Idiazabal ” (can’t slip a cheese error by me!). Speck is Italian. After reading the menu, I guess this restaurant is just taking cues from Spain, and not being Spanish 100%.
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Jason Greene
August 27th, 2009
11:00 am
This will certainly be a welcomed addition to that area of Midtown. Previous tenant was the worst. Wonder if they will have good, authentic Bagels?
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Jason Greene
August 27th, 2009
11:06 am
Gosh, just give me one of my Grandmother’s cobbler’s. Those dumplings, with the fruit,and syrup, was to die for. Not to mention, her little fried half-moon pies, made in a cast iron skillet. She dried her fruits, and made those little jewels. Ah, the pleaures of growing up in the South!
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Jason Greene
August 27th, 2009
11:12 am
JCT Kitchen has rocked, from day one. Still prefer his fried chicken, and mac’n cheese! Love that upstairs view. No, I don’t do OTP. The best restaruants are in the city, end of story. I’m not a snob, that’s just how it is.
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Lisa
August 27th, 2009
3:04 pm
Good bagels would really be welcome. Also an easy in and out to pick up bread, unlike Holeman and Finch. Bob Amick sure is busy.
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SalMonela
August 27th, 2009
4:42 pm
Yeah, $88/pound for jamon iberico is actually cheaper (if you can use the word “cheap” and $88/lb in the same sentence) than you can buy it in Europe (except Spain).
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Rod
August 28th, 2009
7:27 am
Actually, I’d rather do my own “dogging.”
I may not want everything that’s on the plate. Also, have you upset the waitress at all this evening – since she is taking your food behind a closed door. Lastly, sometimes it takes so long for them to pack your food, it’s like they’re cooking it again. Give me the styrofoam container and let me scoop my food in there in 5 seconds. You really need an apron to scoop food? Must be a messy eater!
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Morrigan
August 28th, 2009
8:05 am
I despise the hostess who pityingly inquires, “Just one?” of the single women who don’t know any better than to go out alone for a meal, then seats them at a tiny table next to the kitchen or behind a post, even if the dining room is nearly empty. Funny, she didn’t ask the couple ahead of me if they were “just two”, and look at that, they got a table in the middle of the room!
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Puhlease?
August 28th, 2009
8:08 am
Way to perpetuate the hillbilly stereotype with your over dramatic spelling of please. You could have made your point and used the correct spelling. What disappoints me is you mention you have a daughter. She will emulate your mannerisms and spread this substandard discourse to her offspring. Welcome to America.
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Italian Diva
August 28th, 2009
8:10 am
Another pet peeve is the waiter who delivers a drink holding onto the rim of the glass. Waiters, please hold onto a glass at the base or middle.
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Connie
August 28th, 2009
8:14 am
What happened to the response, “you are welcome”, when I thank a waitress or waiter for something? Now it seems to be a large percentage of the time that you get the response, “no problem”. WRONG response! If it is a problem, then find a new line of work! Your job is to serve the customer or to “wait” on them. By giving them the response of “no problem”, implies that I might be bothering them at times and heaven forbid that I might ask for another glass of ice tea!
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ATLien
August 28th, 2009
8:19 am
1) The host and hostess stands staffed by people who act like they own the city and that some sort of velvet rope is in place to get a table.
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Becky
August 28th, 2009
8:19 am
I’m with Rod, give me a container and I’ll do my own doggy bagging..
Morrigan, not sure if this is you that you are speaking of, but if it bothers you for the hostess to ask if it’s only one, don’t go alone..I’ve never had that bother me…
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Susan
August 28th, 2009
8:21 am
My biggest pet peeve: parents who take their children to restaurants and let them run wild. The rest of the patrons are not there to babysit or entertain your kids and neither is the waitstaff. If your kids can’t keep their butt in a chair for an hour, leave them at home with a real babysitter!
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Melissa
August 28th, 2009
8:28 am
My biggest pet peeve is associated with the patrons – people who loudly blow their noses at the table! This seems to happen more and more when dining out. Please excuse yourself and go to the restroom to do this!
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Trey
August 28th, 2009
8:29 am
Yes preparing your own doggie bag is faster and more sanitary!
My two personal pet peeves are restaurant staff with long fingernails and those that have colds. Instant appetite loss is a waitress with her thumbnail in my plate as she’s serving. Or one with a cold and is sniffing and wiping his/her nose with their forearm while taking my order! Time to go home and have a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.
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AlG
August 28th, 2009
8:33 am
Doggie bagging is in fact best done at the table. Some years ago a waiter took some of my wife’s food to be “bagged” to the kitchen of a local eatery. It seemed to get lost and then when we prodded the waiter it was found. She got a violent case of food poisoning after she ate it the next day. We’re convinced the food was discarded, contaminated, and then “reclaimed” for us. To this day we wonder what happens when the food is bagged out of our sight!
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JJ
August 28th, 2009
8:40 am
I don’t go out to eat a lot, but here are a few things that I can’t stand:
Facial piercings on waitstaff. That’s just gross to hear someone’s tongue ring hit their teeth. And lip piercings, chin piercings are really a turn off.
And I can’t stand when they ask “Do you need change?” when I pay with cash. That’s just rude. Bring me back my change and let me make the tip.
I have no problem scouping my leftovers into a container. I do it all the time. They give you so much food in restaurants, and I take at least half home for another meal.
And yes, children that run wild bother me too. I use to wait tables and there were so many times we tripped and spilled food and drinks, because some idiot let their precious little one run around. God forbid they would have manners and actually sit at the table. I guess this goes on at home too……..apparently you have NO control over your kid!!
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Ms Bulldawg
August 28th, 2009
8:48 am
The thing that annoys me the most is servers who tote the trays of food on their shoulders with their heads turned so that their ponytail is over the food. YUK!!!
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Janet
August 28th, 2009
8:57 am
In the old days, restaurants had a smoking and non smoking section. Why can’t there be a separate children’s area and an all adult section?
After a long day, and wanting a nice meal on the town, I don’t want to hear/see screaming or misbehaving children.
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Janet
August 28th, 2009
9:01 am
or a section for fat,alone,angry women since that is what I am.
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Bob
August 28th, 2009
9:02 am
Yelling, screaming unruly children and the parents that refuse to keep them under control. Restaurants should be divided into with children and without children sections. Nothing ruins a meal like a screaming brat at the next table. I agree with the person who earlier said if your kids can’t stay seated and under control for an hour stay home or hire the babysitter.
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TrogloDyke
August 28th, 2009
9:04 am
I also prefer to do my own doggy-bagging, for all the reasons already stated. I may have a certain way I want the food to go in the container, too. It sounds picky, but also, why should it be an issue?
Children running wild is a huge issue with me, and I avoid places that allow it. One of the first things I learned as a child was that there are times when one must sit quietly: restaurants, school, adult gatherings, etc. Does no one teach their kids this anymore? How hard is it for a kid to keep his butt in a chair for a while? Many people save their $$ to go out to eat, and they are not amused by your kids.
I also don’t like waitstaff plopping into the booth with me, unless I know them.
One other thing: if I order sweet tea, I expect it to have some sugar in it. Some places get this; others do not.
Now, for the good: I enjoy places where the waitstaff recognizes me. They may not remember my name, but I know they remember my face. I frequent places that pay attention to details.
I like a good deal, and I frequent places that offer it. I appreciate my food being cooked the way I order it.
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Flea
August 28th, 2009
9:16 am
I have too many to list but here we go …..
1) Dirty aprons on the waiters or waitress.
2) Fingers in my food when they bring my plate.
3) Plates stacked on top of plates when they deliver to the table. Dirty plate bottoms could have germs.
4) When I get a refill of water or coffee and they put the pitcher where my mouth goes or they let the spout touch the liquid that is still in the glass or cup ( Hello we have Swine Flu)
5) I have to stop here or I will never eat out again.
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Tori
August 28th, 2009
9:20 am
I and co-workers often go to a local steakhouse chain for lunch. The server asks EVERY time if we’ve ever been there before. I’m offended every time. They can’t remember a face from 2 days ago? I’m tempted to ask them every time how long they have worked there.
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Kelly
August 28th, 2009
9:28 am
When people are having relations in the bathroom.
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Ex-Waiter
August 28th, 2009
9:36 am
The biggest problem in restaurants are customers that have never worked a day in the service industry. For the benefit of those to whom I refer, you complain about the dishes on the menu, you complain about the speed (fast or slow) of service, and you let your d-a-m-n kids run wild and crawl all over the floor. Waiting tables is already a lousy enough job at $2.13/hr and being at the mercy of the type of day your customer is having….or how they were raised. The few extra dollars you shell out at the end of the meal doesn’t entitle you to trample another human being in a nouveau-slavery fashion.
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Terry
August 28th, 2009
9:40 am
I cannot stand waiters who try to memorize an order. There is no shame in writing down the order and I’d prefer the order to be correct than to find a waiter who has good memory skills. When they try to memorize it, the best case is they cause unneeded worry by the patrons about getting the order wrong; the worst case is they actually mess up the order.
Also, it is annoying when a restaurant charges $2.75 or more for a soft drink with “free refills”, but the waiter never shows up with a refill.
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Dandy Don
August 28th, 2009
9:41 am
I love to eat out alone. In fact, I prefer it.
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Ex-Waiter
August 28th, 2009
9:43 am
Terry, most career waiters know their menu inside and out….try slinging 120 dishes a night on a 20 dish menu. Furthermore, not all waiters are morons. I had to wait tables while I put myself through Cornell.
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Sara
August 28th, 2009
9:48 am
I agree with Ex-Waiter (I waited tables for years), and I agree with Italian Diva about touching the glassware… everyone makes good points, but it seems to be a matter of opinion this way or that way. And there’s only so much a restaurant can do about unfit parents.
I want to add two pet peeves:
- If I have a first course, bring me new silverware. Don’t take my dirty knife and fork off my plate and set them in front of me. And on that note… don’t make me sit there with a dirty plate until the entree comes
- If I’m paying more than $10, I don’t want my waiter to be wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
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Mike
August 28th, 2009
10:22 am
There’s a certain high-end restaurant that used to be in a Buckhead strip mall – my first visit was formal and elegant, but on the second (and last) visit they seemed to have sent their servers to Applebee’s and Hooters for training. They were chatty and too involved.
Another pet peeve: when food comes out of the kitchen at the wrong pace. If I order an appetizer and an entree, I don’t expect to wait for fifteen minutes and then have them both come out at once. Tin Drum has a double whammy: they not only bring out the soup with the entree, the soup is scalding hot and you can’t eat it until it’s sat there for twenty minutes.
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mincemeat
August 28th, 2009
10:31 am
I am cracking up about Tori’s comment, being asked if she’s been there before. I would seriously start being snarky with that host.
My complaints: having to be instructed on how a menu works, or what’s a “small plate” and what’s a “large plate”. If your restaurant is so complicated that you have to explain how to order to every patron, well….
I can’t stand raucous kids in restaurants either. I recently sat next to a family where the little girl pulled her pants – and underwear – all the way down, and the family continued to eat. I have a young son, and trust me, at his first squawk, one of us leave the restaurant with him and the other one pays the bill.
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Excuse ME
August 28th, 2009
10:36 am
Sorry about that Kelly. Didn’t know you saw us ;>)
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Foodie
August 28th, 2009
10:52 am
1) un-ruley kids and parents who do nothing about them is a major problem. The restaurant could step in and say something, but doesn’t for fear of losing their business-instead they lose mine. 2) dirty aprons & shirts – long disgusting nails and piercings. I hope the restaurants will take note of these blogs, some have good comments.
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Becky
August 28th, 2009
11:27 am
Like someone (JJ?) else said..Lots of facial jewerly and lots of tattoos..Gross, gross, gross..
When I see my waitress/waiter standing off to the side playing with their hair..
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Midtown waitress
August 28th, 2009
11:38 am
When black folk tip 10% or not at all. Where is my incentive?
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TrogloDyke
August 28th, 2009
11:42 am
Ex-waiter, I feel you. I have always contended that before someone can criticize waitstaff, they need to wait tables for a month and see how it is. I know it is a thankless job, and I have heard firsthand through many of my friends all the crap that waitstaff must endure.
There is no excuse for diners treating waitstaff like slaves, or worse.
That said, if you are unhappy with your chosen job, you shouldn’t do it. ANY job can be crappy if you have the attitude that it is. But, conversely, how crappy the job is is really up to who is doing it. It doesn’t take much to smile, be polite, know the menu, and keep track of your tables. Most diners appreciate this, and reward it. I certainly do.
I can tell when my server is “phoning it in,” and when they are trying to do their best, even if they don’t like the job. I don’t penalize servers for things that are not under their control.
I do know how hard it can be, but you slamming diners for their issues is no better than them slamming you for yours. If you are that misanthropic, maybe a job that doesn’t have face-to-face contact with the public would be more your style.
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Darin
August 28th, 2009
11:55 am
“Nothing ruins the end of a meal faster than having to spoon up your leftovers without an apron and schlep them into a box.” I agree, and this might be because I worked in restaurants for years and did a lot of dish washing duty.
When I have to scrape the food off a plate myself to put into a to-go box, I’m instantly transported to the days of standing in front of the stinking, steamy, professional dish washing setup and scraping customers’ post-brunch plates before washing them. Bad memories.
Plus, some tables are small and crowded and it can be hard to find room to carefully place an open box down so that you can put food into it without making a mess.
I’m curious — where are all these commenters finding the screaming, running children? I eat out a lot myself and haven’t noticed this phenomenon. Maybe I’m just coincidentally avoiding the restaurants where this happens.
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RK
August 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
Every restaurant in Atlanta believes that we don’t know how to park our cars.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
August 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
Midtown waitress: No need to bring race into the picture — there are bad tippers and good tippers in every crowd. And while I’m at it — I’m with Darin — where are you guys eating that screaming children are running amuck?
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JJ
August 28th, 2009
12:41 pm
Some of you people need to stay home and cook for yourself.
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FreeMikeVick
August 28th, 2009
1:24 pm
I only leave 10% for whitey cuz whitey owes me for keeping me out of the good jobs, schools and making me sit on the back of the bus.
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Suga
August 28th, 2009
1:37 pm
Meridith, I have to agree with Midtown Waitress….I waited tables back in my 20’s and most blacks are HORRIBLE tippers. Especially the church crowd……
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Don
August 28th, 2009
1:46 pm
I too prefer to box my own leftovers. Meredith, next time they bring you a box just ask if the waiter would mind boxing your leftovers for you.
And I totally agree with Terry about there being no shame in writing down the order. This is not an issue when everyone at the table orders the food exactly as described on the menu, but God forbid we ask for a substitution or two. There’s a 50/50 shot it’ll come out wrong if more than one person asks for a change, or if the last person to order asks some questions about the menu. Just jot down a note or two!
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Becky
August 28th, 2009
2:06 pm
I have been a waitress, cook and bartender, therefore the service has to be really, really bad for me not to tip…I don’t mind not getting maybe the best service, but I do mind not getting a friendly server..I can handle not having my glass refilled right off, but don’t give me the impression that taking my order and bringing my food to me is the last place that you want to me….Don’t make me wait on something while you are in the corner talking or texting..
As to everyone complaining about kids..My two grandchildren (7 years old) go to any restaurant that we go to and don’t now and never have ran around screaming..They order their own food, say thank you when it’s served..If they want some sauce (or whatever) they say excuse me to the server and ask for it..If the boy has anything left over, he wail ask for his own to go box and box the food by hisself..They have better tables manners than a lot of adults that I’ve been around…
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Black waitress
August 28th, 2009
2:45 pm
I agree with the others. I am black and blacks do not tip anywhere near 20%. I’ve seen my friends do it. I remind them I am a waitress and that is much of our income and their remarks are “So what?”
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Rachel Ray
August 28th, 2009
2:47 pm
I’m white and I don’t tip well. I save my cash on booze!
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Morrigan
August 28th, 2009
3:07 pm
Becky, that was an awfully snotty comment from someone who thinks “hisself” is a word. Why the need to slap me down?
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Morrigan
August 28th, 2009
3:09 pm
…and that “have ran” is correct English. Or that “wail” means “will”.
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mford
August 28th, 2009
3:11 pm
Isn’t it odd that I discovered that “freemikevick” and “black waitress” have the same email address? Dude, leave the racial remarks off the blog. You’re ruining a decent discussion for everyone else.
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Becky
August 28th, 2009
3:48 pm
Morrigan, it wasn’t meant to be a snotty comment..I just said that if it bothers you, either don’t go alone or shrug it off of you shoulders..
As for the other comments, oops, they were typos..SO get your panties out of a wad..
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Rachel Ray
August 28th, 2009
3:55 pm
I love to get smashed!
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Puhlease?
August 28th, 2009
3:57 pm
Way to talk down to those who respond. You ask for feedback and some provide it.
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huh?
August 28th, 2009
3:59 pm
Girl…it is just you. The only thing that they have in common is the spiked up do and the butt chin. Richard can’t compete with those cute dimples of Jamies.
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Meridith Ford Goldman
August 28th, 2009
4:17 pm
Puhlease?: I’m gonna say this only once: I can talk about my daughter. You can’t. It’s the same rule as talking about someone’s momma (oops! there I go with that stereotypical wording again). And I hardly think that asking for someone to keep racial remarks off the blog is “talking down” to anyone.
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Becky
August 28th, 2009
4:24 pm
Jamie is much better looking..
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Italian Diva
August 28th, 2009
4:32 pm
How in the world could race enter a conversation about pet peeves in restaurants? Don’t you folks have anything better to do?
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Stan
August 28th, 2009
4:46 pm
jamie is more “manly” looking Blaise is a little more “citified” looking
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Glorious Ebony
August 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
I am so addicted to the chocolate raspberry. It’s so hard to find a good chocolate cake and I must say CamiCakes is delicious. I wasn’t too thrilled with the yellow cupcake, but as long as the chocolate is good, they have a customer in me for life. I too have tried other cupcake shops and I would rate Cami Cakes at the top of the list.
I do have a word of advice. The staff could be a little friendlier and more knowledgeable. I went to the shop shortly after it opened and a customer inquired to the young lady behind the counter if the cupcakes could be frozen. She just hunched her shoulders and said “I wouldn’t put them in the freezer.” I could tell the customer was slightly agitated. The girl clearly did not know (as evidenced by the hunched shoulder) and the fact that she did not answer the question.
I want to see this business do well since they have a great product.
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Mary
August 29th, 2009
1:39 pm
Pappasito’s has the BEST mango mojito in town. Margaritas are also to die for!
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bass stringerfish
August 29th, 2009
5:34 pm
I side with the piercing complaint. Number one on my list. Seeing someone that looks like they have cold sores – well I have walked out before. I HATE when staff starts sweeping or dust bustering the floor around me while I am eating. I do not like to listen to the specials – write it down and give it to me WITH PRICES. Do not bring me my entree while I am eating my appetizer. And living in Utah, my God, you should see the amount of kids that have zero control nor do they have any parental control. Bring me some water right away and let me look at the menu before you ask me if I want a drink, and by all means, just service my table, no more no less..I’ll tip 20, no worries, but do your job. I do not care about “how hard the job is..” you know what you are getting in to. Do your job or do something else.
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Todd
August 29th, 2009
5:35 pm
About Manhattan Cafe,
Smoking has been banned inside Bars and Restaurants in Athens for several years now making it unlikely for the Manhattan to be smoky or like the inside of an ashtray. It’s not. Dark it is.
I guess the writer was projecting.
If you are looking for a bar that is a throwback to the old days then the Manhattan is the place. There are no TV’s, the Jukebox still plays 45’s, the drinks cost half as much as they do across the street at The National ( which is really the best Restaurant in town ) and the average age of the patrons is about 35 years old. Girls Gone Wild / Animal House it is not. It’s a mature watering hole for old and young, gay and straight, smart and dumb, winners and losers, comedians and poets, black and white, and poor and wealthy.
The Manhattan is the best of Athens. It’s the real deal. Go ” Weigh Your Fate ” are their Fortune teller machine.
Manhattan Cafe – *****
Located on Hot Corner, USA.
Go.
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fsg
August 29th, 2009
5:44 pm
Well I have a few myself.
1. I refuse to be seated at a table next to the bathroom door We will leave it at that for why
2. I do not like to have a view of the kitchen. I always see things that I don’t want to see.
3. Bandaids ,visible cuts,and dirty nails on my waiters hands will make me exit.
4.Waiters serving my $49.00 Steak with sleeve Tats.
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Paul
August 29th, 2009
5:45 pm
I hate it when the waitress touches me when I am ordering. No touching. Period.
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IC Atlanta
August 29th, 2009
5:53 pm
The disappearing server when I am waiting for condiments, drink refill, the table to be cleared and waiting forever for the check.
Being germ conscious – no soap in the bathroom, and agree with the hands on the plate or touching your straw when refiling the drink glass – yuck.
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tantalize me
August 29th, 2009
6:01 pm
My pet peeve is more about removing plates after the meal is complete. I hate to see servers stack plates and scrape food at the table. It’s very unappetizing at meal and I beleive it should be done in the kitchen.
Ditto about bagging my own leftovers; I want ti be sure I use my own silverware to move my leftovers.
FYI every that really enjoys dining out should read the book Waiter Rant, very very interesting perspective about the restaurant industry from a long-time waiter. Some good stuff and some you’d rather not know but a really good read.
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CyberSpiff
August 29th, 2009
6:03 pm
Kids running around the restaurant drives me nuts. Saw one last night where the kids were literally running around, walking up to people at tables and talking to them, actually tripped a waiter at one point, yet the restaurat owners said nothing. The parents were too busy talking on cell phones an engrossed in their own conversation to notice or care.
I don’t blame the kids entirely, mom and dad must feel entitled to allow this behavior. The problem is this happens in all sorts of restaurants, from $ to $$$$, so you can’t avoid it. And Heaven forbid if you say anything, Mom and/or Dad will be complaining or calling the police on you.
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V
August 29th, 2009
6:09 pm
I agree with Morrigan. I travel frequently and dine alone. I can’t tell you how many times the hostess says, “Just one?”. What…I’m not enough? I waited tables for a while since it took some time to obtain my degrees so I always start servers at 20%…I go up or down from there depending on the level of service. Another pet peeve of mine- people who round up or down so the total on their credit card is an even dollar amount. The gratuity shouldn’t be based on the cents of the bill.
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Marc
August 29th, 2009
6:17 pm
About the african american tippers, I worked for many years waiting tables. We would try to get the black servers to take the black tables, but their response was “no way, blacks won’t tip us either”. Just deal with it, it is what it is.
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rick
August 29th, 2009
6:20 pm
I eat out frequently, at least 5 times a week. Sometimes I dine alone, sometimes I dine with others. I very, very seldom have a bad dining experience. Then again, I have a positive attitude.
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Thogwummpy
August 29th, 2009
6:21 pm
Candidly, I get a little annoyed about the production made over asking if I want dessert. “Did WE save room for dessert?” “Are you ready for something sinful?” Blah-blah-blah. I don’t like waiters treating me like a five-year old; or someone of dubious character that is getting away with something. I’m an adult. Just ask if we’d be interested in dessert; and leave off the silly little drama about it.
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marymac
August 29th, 2009
6:21 pm
When they take your glass away from the table for refills. no telling what other glasses they pick up along the way. i always use a straw just in case they have touched the rim but if they switch glasses. ohhh. i scoop my own leftovers. i do not like things to touch. and i hate to be left standing in the waiting area when there are plenty of tables. just seat me and tell me the kitchen is a little backed up. i can handle ordering a drink and being seated better than standing when i can clearly see many empty tables…
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Mitel
August 29th, 2009
6:22 pm
I hate when the servers ask me what I would like to order.
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rick
August 29th, 2009
6:23 pm
I eat out at least 5 times a week. Sometimes I dine alone and sometimes I dine with others. I very, very seldom have an unpleasant dining experience. Then again, I have a good attitude.
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catlady
August 29th, 2009
6:24 pm
Out of control children, or drunk, loud, disorderly adults.
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VBNG
August 29th, 2009
6:26 pm
I was a waitress the year I graduated college. You can’t say you will remember everything everyone always say. Write down the order. People always make substitutions, no matter how much of the menu you have memorized. And once you leave that table, you know the table you pass to go put the order in will have some question or request causing you to split your concentration. You are more likely then to forget something from what the previous table said.
I don’t care for children running around or just getting real loud.
I ONLY drink water. Most waiters/waitresses don’t bother checking on my glass for refills as I haven’t ordered a drink. I drink a lot of water and want refills. I do tip well. But I want my water.
As for those that think one race or other tips poorly, have you ever thought that they are tipping YOU poorly because YOU had a bad attitude towards them?! If I had a racist person serving me and projecting that attitude I might be likely to tip less. I don’t care what color they are, if they are a good waiter/waitress, tip them well. But if the waiter/waitress treats the customer like crap… don’t.
I am not for all the facial piercings and tats all over the bodies, but at least they have jobs and aren’t on welfare which our taxes would be paying for. I want them to be clean. I really wouldn’t want someones fingers, nails, or hair in my food though.
As far as putting food in the “doggie” box, I would rather the waiter/waitress do it AT the table. It is easier to do it if you are standing than at the odd angle of sitting at the table. If they are doing it there in front of you, you can tell them you do or don’t want something in particular. If they were mad at you, they are doing it in front of you rather than taking it to the back to do who-knows-what to it. That is what I prefer, but I don’t find many restaurants doing that anymore.
One of my pet peaves I have that hasn’t been mentioned, I don’t believe, is… when the restaurant is busy and a good deal of the wait staff are hanging-out up front with the host/hostess and you have an empty glass or need some salad dressing. That is aggravating to me when they decide to just hang-out instead of being helpful.
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catlady
August 29th, 2009
6:29 pm
When they say “Just one?” to me I say, “Yeah, but I’m a BIG one!” Most have the grace to blush. If they said, “Are you alone?” (obviously I am) I say, “For the moment. Can you fix me up?” Nah, I don’t really say that, but I would LIKE to.
I have always been a good tipper but became a much better one after my daughter started waiting tables. She has given me a great deal of insight.
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mamaj
August 29th, 2009
6:32 pm
Thanks Meredith, for putting the race baiters in their place. There are enough topics already that race plays a part in, but by golly this is just about restaurant pet peeves and not tipping does not belong to a specific group of people.
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UGAgal
August 29th, 2009
6:37 pm
I wonder if any of you that are whining and complaining (including the author) have EVER actually waited tables?!?!?!? Did you ever happen to think that maybe your server has been working on their feet since 10 am and that squatting at your table is not an attempt to befriend you but simply to take a 30 second breather? bass stringerfish- did you ever think that maybe servers are required to tell you the special so that they can answer any questions you might have? If you all have SO many problems with your service/servers, maybe you should stick to fast food joints and save yourself and your potential server the headache of dealing with you. Also, watch Waiting- all those awful people at the tables- they are YOU!!!!!
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Claire
August 29th, 2009
6:38 pm
Agreed on most all of the above and one additional, but huge peeve for me…not putting a beverage napkin down for my glass. I HATE to have the glass’s condensation dripping all over me every time I pick up my glass. And yes, I did my “time” and waited tables too!
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ncgreybr
August 29th, 2009
6:48 pm
I was at a restaurant in Asheville for lunch (Olive Garden) where the person seating customers actually stopped seating people in a particular area because 2 women had 2 of the most obnoxious brats you have ever seen. The two women totally ignored the kids, letting them run wild. Unfortunately I was sitting across from them. I began noticing that while the rest of the place was packed, my area had only me and the two womoen’s table seated. My waiter came to me and said my meal was “compted” by the manager. I want to know why the manager didn’t say something to the adults! If I have unruly kids in my store, they are ejected! AND I will tell the parents to take a parenting class! As a result of not seating people in the server’s area, he lost most of his lunch tips.
Also in Asheville, the person handing me the plate for a buffet, was hackiing and coughing and weezing like she had TB! I got my buffet, ate one bite and then had to leave…just imagining what germs had been put on that plate. Before I walked out I asked for the manager. When I told him about it, he apologized. He had just started and he had fired the bad employees. This crew was the good ones. I’ve never been able to enter that place again.
Also in Asheville,
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ncgreybr
August 29th, 2009
6:51 pm
BTW…I have been asked if “I’m alone”. I am a male. My answer is ALWAYS “Yes, I am. Is there a problem with that?”
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mamaj
August 29th, 2009
6:54 pm
For the life of me, I can”t figure out why it bothers someone for a waiter/waitress to ask them are they the only one dining. It could be that maybe they think the other people/person is on the way from the car, or heaven forbid that you may be meeting someone else there. It would seem rather silly for them not to ask and seat you at a table or booth for 8 people and I promise you wouldn’t like that either.
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catlady
August 29th, 2009
6:54 pm
One time with an annoying kid who kept coming to our table while his parents did not take care of it: I got up and took him by the hand and told them he needed to go to the restroom and I would be glad to take him. They couldn’t get out of there fast enough. I think a waiter”accidently” spilling some ice water on some of the kids who are running around would solve the problem.
Once I witnessed 2 drunk couples being obnoxious to the waitress so I went to the manager. It was ruining my meal since I had to listen to it. He comped their drinks and sent them on their way.
Finally, I will always feel grateful to a waiter named Chris at a restaurant in Canton. My daughters were eating here and some drunk guys in the next table were loudly commenting on my younger daugher’s morals (their ideas, if you get my drift). She was 14. My older daughter was impotent with rage. The girls’ waiter, overhearing the obscene speculation, went over and told the guys to cut it out. They huffed and puffed and he got the manager who sent them on their way. When I heard about it I called the manager to thank him and Chris and I sent Chris some extra tip the next day. I hope it made up for the tip he lost.
Being a good server is a hard job.
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Quirky
August 29th, 2009
7:15 pm
Okay, this may sound weird, but I’ve never been able to figure out how to flush the toilets at a certain high-end restaurant in Atlanta. I’ve only been there three times, but it’s embarrassing to have to walk out of the room and ask the hostess. Who, by the way, is just outside of the doors. I know that you want your restaurant to be upscale and trendy, but come on!
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Garhob
August 29th, 2009
7:33 pm
My pet peeve is patrons who nitpick with service and believe that by virtue of going to a restaurant they become the center of the universe. Get over yourself. You’re waiters should be polite and all, but many of you expect to be treated like the King of Persia simply because your dropping 10 bucks on a cheeseburger. It really reflects a lack of class.
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DecaturCyn
August 29th, 2009
7:45 pm
My biggest restaurant pet peeve is the silly assumption that black diners never tip adequately. I always tip a minimum of 20% at full service restaurants and 15-20% at cafeterias or partial-service establishments. At rare times when a place is really terrible, I recommend still tipping 15% and perhaps talking politely with the server or managaer about serious problems. If you tip less, they would simply assume that you are a generally poor tipper and didn’t “deserve” efficient, courteous service to begin with.
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Jaye
August 29th, 2009
8:00 pm
Ear-splitting “background” music is the worst – didn’t like it when I as 25 and sure don’t like it at 50. Also unacceptable: frigid temperatures. (Oh, yes, the wait staff buzzes busily around the room, so they need to stay crisp and cool while the rest of us become glacier-like.)
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Mary Pat
August 29th, 2009
8:50 pm
Mitel,
Am I the only one who laughed when I read your comment?! Love your dry humor!
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SmartGuy
August 29th, 2009
8:58 pm
Ditto on the Kids (and the Drunks)….but have some personal ownership for your experience….don’t go to a place that is always full of kids (or drunks) and expect not to find them this time…
Its like trying to fly out of the airport the day before Thanksgiving (again) and complaining (again) about the delays….
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SmartGuy
August 29th, 2009
9:00 pm
The Movie “Waiting” with Ryan Reynolds, Anna Faris is much watch for anyone who’s ever worked in a restaurant or eats out a lot
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SmartGuy
August 29th, 2009
9:03 pm
No one should be rude to solo diners, but seriously, why don’t you belly up to the bar and eat there instead of looking like a lump on a log reading your novel between courses in the main dining room????
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SmartGuy
August 29th, 2009
9:07 pm
To box or not to box:
If you ask for a box, at least have good intentions of eating the remains. Is this just going to sit in your (dates) car (stinking it up) for the next few hours while you enjoy a show, club, etc.?
Personally if I get a box, I like to see it done tableside, but I miss the nice bag with napkins, utilsils etc, it is presented with when it comes out of the kitchen instead of just dealing with an awkward styrofoam box.
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fer
August 29th, 2009
10:44 pm
I agree that it looks rather tacky to box up your leftovers at the table, but I’d rather do it that way and know that I am getting my own, clean food. If it’s taken to the kitchen to be boxed up, who knows what happens between the time it leaves your table and the time you get it back?
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Sped Teacher
August 29th, 2009
10:49 pm
I had the salmon lunch special at Ted’s Montana Grill in PTC and had great service. YES, I was by myself and he did ask. I will go back, but not next week because the Race will make traffic horrid. I have always been pleased with the service and the food at this location. That is why I keep going back.
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FoodKing
August 29th, 2009
11:17 pm
1. Slow food delivery
2. Cold food (when it should be hot)
3. Waiter with an attitude like they own the place and you are a peasant
4. $5.00 for a bottle of beer at a hamburger joint
5. Loud customers who act like it’s a private party for their group
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MANGLER
August 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
Boxes: some restaurants have a policy that it is to be boxed in the kitchen. Some don’t. I prefer to bring the box to the table and I will offer to box it myself; this gives you the chance to say “thank you” or “I’ll do that”.
Water with lemon: really? You wonder why we scoff at this? You’re being cheap.
Water greeting you when you sit down: we need to up sell, its required. Did you just come in from running a marathon?
$2.25 soda: the machine to pour the soda costs $8,000, that’s why.
Free stuff: come on folks, be reasonable. Did you need that 5th loaf of bread?
Kids: I will step on your child rather than lose my load. Not my responsibility to look after them. It’s yours. Do you let them run around in the street?
Bad tippers: yes, stereotypes are based on experience, and my experience is that I can expect 50% of certain tables to tip horribly. I don’t treat them any less than other tables though.
“Table for one?”: really, this bothers you? Stay home … alone.
Listing the specials: people! They make us do this. We know you don’t care, but they make us do this.
You asking about the “cheapest thing on the menu”: hint, its you.
piercings: as long as there’s not a chain dangling, it doesn’t matter
tattoos: they cover them up, that’s most restaurants policy.
writing down orders: yes, I do. Some places require that the servers memorize the order. Why? Can’t say, but that’s why they do it.
squatting at your table: I’m tall and I’m sure you don’t want to be talking to my crotch, do you? It makes for a more personal and audible communication with you. If you don’t like communicating with your server, then stay the hell home.
sitting at the table: this is a judgment call here … I can tell when a stiff wad doesn’t want me there and I treat them the way they want to be treated. However, some tables are warm and friendly and don’t mind.
cold? wear a friggin sweater. yes, you’re sitting there drinking your water with lemon gaining weight while I’m hauling your plates around, and doing a lot of other things to keep the place running. Do you want me dripping sweat on you?
loud music: sometimes this is so you don’t hear the conversations around you. Other times the volume was set for when it was busier and louder … ask someone and it might be turned down.
attitudes of quests: remember the next time someone treats you curtly what you want to say to them, then imagine your livelihood depended on you smiling back at them.
serving as a job: it’s fast paced and physically demanding with relatively low pay. Most people who are doing this are in school or are here because of the great recession. 18-20% is the current norm for tips. If you can’t or won’t do that for any reason, go to McDonald’s.
attitudes of servers: no excuse for this. I can’t stand it.
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Upscale Dining Critic
August 30th, 2009
12:10 am
More Restaurant Pet Peeves:
* Beverages that never get refilled
* Higher prices for smaller portions
* Blacks who throw their chicken bones out in the restaurant parking lot
* Blacks who treat their servers like slaves and refuse to tip them
* Blacks who blatantly pass gas as they walk by your table as you eat
* Blacks who sue my favorite restaurants when their party of 25 doesn’t get seated before a Hispanic party of 2 and don’t understand why
* Not enough unsweetened (non-sugar, non-Splenda) dessert options
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The Big Maru
August 30th, 2009
12:10 am
Because my job requires a lot of travel, I eat in a restaurant every night when I’m on the road (120+ nights/year), and since my wife doesn’t cook and I don’t have much free time, we eat out almost every night when I’m home.
Pet peeves -
Kids. Period. Whenever it looks like we’re going to get seated next to a family with kids (< 5-6 years old), we ask for another table. Too many bad experiences with unruly kids or screaming babies. We usually try to go to restaurants later in the evening because of this.
But because we go to places closer to closing time, we run into the scenario where sections are closed, so we get crammed in next to the table of 10, or the cooking is rushed, or most annoying of all, the server is busy doing their closing duties instead of waiting on their customers. If a restaurant is open until 10 pm, I expect to get good service until then, not have to wait on my food while the server sweeps the floor or rolls silverware.
Another peeve not previously mentioned – when the server or busser sprays the table next to ours while we are eating. Nothing like a good dose of disinfecatnt on your food…
Have to agree with the complaints about servers that ask if we’ve been there before, especially at the chain restaurants like Outback, Longhorn, Applebee’s, etc. Duh – they’ve all been in business for 20+ years. Do I look like I just crawled out from under a rock? Wait, don’t answer that.
We’re not as germophobic / tat-ophobic as some. As long as we’ve never had a bad gastro-intestinal experience after dining at that establishment, we don’t worry about appearances. This may come from having old-school parents who left Sunday dinner on the table until supper without consequences, or who dredged up some from the fridge that we would have thrown out and made it taste pretty good.
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The Big Maru
August 30th, 2009
12:27 am
Tip for the people that have a problem when they are asked ‘just one?’ or ‘eating alone?’ (this is from a frequent business traveler that eats alone all the time). Whenever possible, bypass the hostess and go stright to the bar. Unless you’re at the latest trendy spot, meaining the bar is crowded with the beautiful people / players / wannabes, or the restaurant is in a non-progressive state that still allows smokers to ruin your dining experience, as a solo diner you will almost always get better service and won’t look out of place at the bar. And if you plan to go to that restaurant on a regular basis, and you get to know your bartender and tip well, the experience should be even better.
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Anna Banana
August 30th, 2009
12:28 am
I just read, “Cuddlee Bugs: Revenge o’ the Peach Potion,” and in it, there’s almost a knock-down drag-out between two women at a restaurant in Peach County, Ga. It’s hilarious. But that’s a scene in a children’s book. In real life, I hate it when the staff argues or talks so loud that it disrupts your dining experience.
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SmartGuy
August 30th, 2009
12:51 am
To Big Maru – re: going to the restaurant at closing time….
While I understand your point — It is a legit peeve & they should offer they same high level of service until they close — isn’t that kind of self inflicted pain on your part to continiously go to places right before they close if you know the norm is for them to go into shut-down mode?
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Frequent Diner
August 30th, 2009
1:07 am
I have to agree with Meredith and Darin on the doggy bag issue. It’s especially awkward if you have more than two people at your table (or worse, a booth). There’s simply not enough room. Puts a different spin on the old “did we save room for dessert” question.
If you trust the kitchen and waitstaff enough to cook and serve your food, why wouldn’t you trust them to wrap it up for you?
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MJ
August 30th, 2009
2:17 am
I prefer to box it myself. Especially after asking a waiter to box up my half-eaten portion and him accidentally throwing it away instead. Reading the comments above, I consider myself lucky that he didn’t try to remedy the situation.
Pet Peeve:
- Watching my plate get cold as the wait staff finishes their chat fest.
- Bathrooms that turn flushing or locking the door into a “where’s waldo” game.
- Restaurants with too many rules. I won’t dine anywhere that has a minimum purchase.
- Restaurants that leave an empty tip line on the receipt when they’ve already charged a tip for large parties.
- Staff drama playing out in front of customers. Take that argument to the kitchen and resolve it privately.
- “Restaurants” that should just accept that they are simply glorified bars. It’s hard to eat a steak when you’re seated on a sofa 2 feet from the dining table/end table.
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Former Beverage Equipment Repairman
August 30th, 2009
5:13 am
Never drink sweet tea at a restaurant. I have repeatedly seen the containers used to house sweet tea with active sugar mold colonies. Anything sugary slop touches will get mold. Cola fountain nozzles included. There are probably fountains out there that have never had the nozzles properly cleaned and tea dispensers that have never had the dispensing valve taken apart and properly cleaned. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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Ladybug
August 30th, 2009
6:30 am
I hate… servers who carry large trays of food on their shoulder so near their hair.
…dealing with roudy kids..if I wanted kids I would have had my own.
…why should I have to belly up to the bar because I am eating alone?
…people talking loudly on their cell phones or to each other.
…as much as I enjoy Cracker Barrel food, I hate the noise. It’s hard to carry on a conversation at the table.
…I don’t go in near closing time at and expect to sit there leisurely enjoying my meal. These workers are tired and want to get home. Believe it or not, they have a life other than serving you. Going in near closing time is the same as going into a store near closing time and expecting them to stay open late just for you.
…I don’t care if the staff remembers me from one meal to another. They see a lot of faces on a daily basis. None of us are that special.
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clyde
August 30th, 2009
8:28 am
Back in the days when I went out to eat I solved most of my pet peeves by asking that a pitcher of water be brought to the table.If the answer was yes,I never had to wait for a refill and if the answer was no,I didn’t wait around there long enough to need a refill.
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Nickie
August 30th, 2009
8:44 am
My pet peeves center around getting seated in the first place. If the restaurant is short staffed, kitchen backed up or whatever and there are open tables seat us anyway and simply say, ” I’m sorry, we’re a little backed up. Can I get your drink while you wait?”. I’ll be happy but if I have to stand around and look at 18 open tables until the staff catches up with orders I will probably leave and not come back. Second – I can see 18 open tables and the host/hostess has to spend 3 minutes consulting the seating chart to decide where to seat me. I know the host/hostess is required to spread the patrons around to all areas and servers but please know what area is up next and don’t make me wait while you stare at the chart like it’s the Rosetta Stone!
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THE TRUTH
August 30th, 2009
9:04 am
Yeah that is quite funny all the racist emails are from the same person changing his screen name.. CREEPY WIERDO. Anywho, There are many black professionals, attorneys, doctors, etc. who tip VERY VERY well. Don’t say it is all Black people. It is GHETTO black people, and church going bible thumpers that don’t tip AT ALL, or less than 10%. THIS IS A FACT, ghetto, not all black people, or people of color for that matter, so give me a break. Also, I have seen many instances of white people, asian people, obese people, tacky people, etc. leave NO TIP at all. How rude and pathetic. I am embarrased for them.
Oh yeah if you are obese, please please don’t shovel food into your mouth, nobody wants to see that at restaurants.. GROSS
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Wakey
August 30th, 2009
9:21 am
Reading this article and some of the comments has me thinking too many of you are wound up tight.
Go have dinner in France and get back to me.
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The Big Maru
August 30th, 2009
10:06 am
Smart Guy @12:51, good point about the self-inflicted pain. Sometimes it’s a matter of choosing your poison. But by ‘closer to closing time’, I didn’t mean we will walk in the door 5 minutes before closing, I really meant ‘after the family hour / dinner rush’. Sometimes we will have already finished dinner, and the place is still supposed to be open for another 15 minutes or so and we can’t get our check or a doggy bag because the server has disappeared doing other chores.
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D
August 30th, 2009
12:29 pm
It is you girlfriend, Jamie is hot, but not as hot as his brother Bobby, who just melts my butter !!!!!
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ncgreybr
August 30th, 2009
5:09 pm
mamaj: the reason I get upset when I’m asked if I’m “alone” is the way they ask. It’s like “Damn! We’re going to be wasting a table on just one person!”
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ncgreybr
August 30th, 2009
5:23 pm
Another pet peeve that I haven’t seen here. There is always one person who eats slower than the pack and the waitstaff will comoe pick up plates as soon as the fork is put down for each person. It used to be that ALL plates were taken at the same time. I hate to see the one person left eating when everyone else has an empty table in front of them.
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Tom
August 30th, 2009
7:41 pm
Texas Margarita from Pancho’s Cantina on Buford Hwy near Lenox.
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BitterEXdemocrackkk
August 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
Get your children OUT of government screwls as fast as you can! they are nothing BUT government indoctrination centers for leftwing socialism
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BitterEXdemocrackkk
August 30th, 2009
7:48 pm
MF? huh?
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whatever you drink...
August 30th, 2009
10:03 pm
whiskyright – don’t act so high and mighty about how anyone drinks their drink. If you are such a big guy, then can we assume that you are drinking cask strength whisky at about 55% abv?
I doubt it. All distilleries add water to their whisky when it come out of the barrel to ensure uniformity, and to dilute the whisky down to 80 proof or so. So the whisky is already diluted when you drink it neat…
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
9:28 am
Cut me some slack. I don’t like hilbillies.
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
9:38 am
Exercise
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
9:39 am
This is a worthy blog post how?
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Becky
August 31st, 2009
9:57 am
@MANGLER. I don’t give a rats behind how much the machine that pours the soda cost, if I want to drink water, I WILL.. Other than that, I thought most of your post was great..
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mford
August 31st, 2009
10:24 am
puhlease?: lighten up.
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mford
August 31st, 2009
10:25 am
Uh yeah — Pulease? I think I’ve got the exercise thing down.
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
10:36 am
It was a simple question.
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
11:27 am
Now this is a good blog entry. Thanks!
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Becky
August 31st, 2009
11:32 am
it’s news worthy, because she chose this topic and it’s her blog..Regardless if you like the topic or not, this is what she gets paid to do..
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Becky
August 31st, 2009
11:37 am
mjf, I have always eaten the skins..I grew up with my Mother telling me not to..Never worked…Glad to find out that I was doing something right when it was wrong..
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
11:38 am
You asked us to share. I did and that’s your response?
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mford
August 31st, 2009
11:48 am
I asked you to share tips on how to cut calories while dining out.
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mford
August 31st, 2009
11:50 am
Thanks Becky! I LOVE the skins?
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Becky
August 31st, 2009
11:51 am
mford, sorry about the mjf..I was thinking of another bloggers name as I was typing.
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Meredith
August 31st, 2009
12:53 pm
Salad dressing on the side. I dip my salad into it lightly. Good bread? I just eat the crust. And yeah, no need to eat all of it. A good bowl of broth soup as an appetizer. And yes on the red wine – start with a really good one so you sip it and savor it. Fruit desserts can be light, or share the Creme Brulee with a friend.
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RK
August 31st, 2009
1:04 pm
Are there any good farmers’ markets not in the city?
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Fancy
August 31st, 2009
1:09 pm
I travel a lot for work, and do find myself in more suburban cities out of state that just don’t offer the same quality restaurants as Atlanta. As much as it kills me to give money to them, places like Chili’s and Applebee’s do have lighter menu options. It’s the good places in town that are harder for me- how do you make lobster enchiladas at Georgia Grille a healthy option?
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Tyree
August 31st, 2009
1:10 pm
Meridith + 1 on portion control. It’s essential to keeping yourself in check. If it’s a heavy entree or dessert split it with your dining companion. If eating alone, eat half the portion and take half home.
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Nancy
August 31st, 2009
2:05 pm
I will skip the appetizer or share one with the table.
Then I will choose an entree that is either grilled or broiled with no added cream sauce.
If dessert is ordered, I take one bite, drink lots of water and enjoy my one glass of wine.
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Lose weight while dining out | Table Talk | Fast weight loss live today
August 31st, 2009
2:13 pm
[...] you should be moving on to your salad when you’re dining. Read the example here: Lose coefficient patch dining discover | Table Talk Posted in Uncategorized | Tags: amount, and-importance, and-why, opinion, opinion-carry, [...]
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Me
August 31st, 2009
2:14 pm
First, I try to scope out the menu online, before going to the restaurant and seeing and smelling all the great food. Also, since I don’t like cooking fish at home, I try to order (grilled) fish whenever I eat out.
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Laura
August 31st, 2009
2:14 pm
BITTEREX provides a lovely example of homeschooling for us all. Can you imagine a the extraordinary command of people skills that a child would reap after spending just a few hours with them? Featured skills for recess would probably include nose-hair braiding and jail-house tattoos.
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Puhlease?
August 31st, 2009
2:32 pm
Pardon me if I don’t worship the blogger. These forums appear to be open for feedback and remarks. If you don’t like the answers, don’t ask the questions. I am part of the readership.
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Ben
August 31st, 2009
2:56 pm
Drink some water and/or have a light snack before going out. Tell the server to not bring the basket of bread.
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Kat
August 31st, 2009
3:10 pm
I ask for my salad dressing on the side – if they put it on, it’s a huge glop and it weighs the whole thing down. Gross! I like to dip my fork into the dressing (if it is of the thicker variety) and then stab at the salad. Hint of the taste with fewer calories.
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BP
August 31st, 2009
3:43 pm
I ask for a “doggie bag” with my meal. I then pack up 1/2 of my meal portion and dine on the rest. I also ask for the child’s menu. Most restaurants will let you order from there even if it has an age limit posted.
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mford
August 31st, 2009
4:09 pm
RK: Lots! Try this link: http://projects.eveningedge.com/maps/evening-edge/atlanta-farmers-markets/
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Robert
August 31st, 2009
4:58 pm
Last night, I dined at Longhorn at Lindbergh. While their dinner menu mentioned that the chicken dish I wanted had two breasts and two sides, They worked with me to pare it down to one breast prepared as noted on the menu and one side. They’ve done it before, and this was very similar to their lunch portion. It turned out to be plenty of food, not wasteful, and more affordable! Also, I often shove the complimentary bread/chips away from myself after I’m finished with the first course and ask the server to take them away shortly before dinner is served.
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SmartGuy
August 31st, 2009
7:19 pm
Ms. Ford – The AJC pays you for this? You link to a medicore article in another magazine which offers no insight and then cover it with a few words and no insight of your own….must be good work if you can get it….
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mford
August 31st, 2009
7:40 pm
So Smart Guy: What are your tips for losing weight while dining out?
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mford
August 31st, 2009
7:43 pm
And thanks to those of you who shared some real tips — they’re great!
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http://www.secretsofhealthyeating.com/lose-weight.html
September 1st, 2009
12:45 am
It’s all about portion control. More ways you can limit your servings are:
1. Eat half the serving, pack away the rest in a doggie bag
2. Skip second servings.
3. Eat slowly and enjoy the meal
Read more at http://www.secretsofhealthyeating.com/portion-control.html
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SmartGuy
September 1st, 2009
2:49 am
Ms. Ford -
My tips – exercise to offset dining indulgence. You already chastised the first poster for suggesting this…..
My tips..like portion control…absolutely…but that is nothing new…
And your big insight…don’t use all your dressing, even if if comes on the side….how novel!!!
Seriously, AJC pays you for this “cutting edge” dribble???
Give us, your readers, something insightful.
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SmartGuy
September 1st, 2009
2:54 am
Ms. Ford,
Let me be more direct. Do you think you actually earned the nickels the AJC paid you for linking to a medicore article and offering a medicore couple of paragraphs yourself. What real value add have you provided?
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catlady
September 1st, 2009
6:50 am
My son just played at the Ashville farmer’s market. Do any of our markets have live music?
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catlady
September 1st, 2009
6:51 am
Asheville Farmer’s market, I mean.
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mford
September 1st, 2009
7:28 am
Catlady: Not sure about live music all the time, but certainly some markets have music from time to time.
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Atlanta’s Biggest Picnic (update) | Table Talk
September 1st, 2009
8:57 am
[...] news for those who want to participate in Atlanta’s Biggest Picnic, Slow Food and Georgia Organics’ “eat-in” at Piedmont Park this Labor Day, but [...]
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Lisa
September 1st, 2009
9:33 am
We are still encouraging people who can’t make it to Piedmont Park or other publicized pic-nics to host their own. Invite friends and neighbors to your backyard or local park. Take some photos and send them to slowfoodusa.org. And, ask all attendees to sign the petition for better food in our schools.
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Lisa
September 1st, 2009
9:36 am
East Atlanta Village Market (Thursdays 4-dusk) has music…………..
As does Glenwood on Sunday afternoons.
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RK
September 1st, 2009
10:18 am
I happened to have time to run to Deklab Famers Market yesterday, and picked up those grapes (which I haven’t had). I’m not a grape fan…until now. That’s what a grape is supposed to taste like. The skin is fine, but those seeds are bitter!
As for the markets…there’s nothing worthwhile outside of the Perimeter from what I’ve heard. I’ve read that Marietta’s is poor. I’m just inside the Perimeter (northwest), but getting to the in-town ones can be a pain.
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Free Yoga | $15 off at tahCha Tea House | Dinner+wine for two | Atlanta Bargain Hunter
September 1st, 2009
11:40 am
[...] Speaking of restaurant week, don’t forget about Midtown Restaurant Week through Sept. 6. It includes restaurants like Repast, South City Kitchen Midtown, TROIS and TWO urban licks. Get the complete list of participating restaurants in Meridith Ford Goldman’s Table Talk blog. [...]
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eat more weigh less
September 1st, 2009
11:53 am
“I just kept eating and I was never hungry. I lost over 30 pounds.”
Some people lose weight rapidly – up to 10 pounds in 10 days, and others more gradually. Some people have lost over 90 pounds in 6 months.
http://real-secret.com
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Roll Jackets!
September 1st, 2009
12:00 pm
I’m McDonald’s on that….Lovin’ It!
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mford
September 1st, 2009
12:58 pm
Lisa! Wonderful! Thanks for sharing.
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mford
September 1st, 2009
12:59 pm
Becky: No prob!
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Puhlease?
September 1st, 2009
1:28 pm
Smartguy, welcome to the AJC….and to the drones that find such mediocre rhetoric acceptable. You should see the blog on the two guys that are supposed to look alike. Amazing.
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Puhlease?
September 1st, 2009
1:33 pm
What the?…..
Blog entry = free advertising?
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AJ
September 1st, 2009
4:06 pm
Uh, Puhlease – Notifying readers of a new restaurant is one of the key elements of Ms Ford Goldman’s blog. Are you saying she shouldn’t mention a new restaurant opening? Here’s a great headline: New Restaurant Opens. The Body: A new restaurant opened, but I can’t tell you where it is, what it’s called, what it serves, or how I feel about it because then it’s free advertising. Maybe when she reviews a restaurant she can talk about the great meal she had, but it’ll be up to the reader to figure out where it is. Puhlease get a clue, Puhlease.
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I Get Around
September 1st, 2009
7:53 pm
That sounds yummy! I remember as a child (I’m 60 now!) my Momma using either Hershey’s cocoa powder (in the can) and scalded milk, or the chopped bittersweet chocolate. I preferred the cocoa powder…and of course, to top if off, one MUST add enough of the LARGE marshmallows to cover the top (which sweetened it to just the right degree). (The little ones melted too fast…and the marshmallows were a huge part of the treat, to munch them from the bottom where they have soaked in the cocoa!) So many fall/winter memories of Momma making us homemade treats for when we came in from playing in knee-deep snow. (We lived in D.C. and Virginia until I was 19 and moved to Ga.) It’s just not the same unless it’s brrrrr cold and snowy. That’s a huge part of it tasting so good…sitting in front of the fireplace, sipping Momma’s cocoa!
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kam
September 1st, 2009
9:26 pm
SHAMEFUL! (smile)
and i’ll be trying this on september 21st.
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Noelle
September 1st, 2009
10:08 pm
J. Christopher’s in Peachtree City – they serve it up in very large mugs with plenty of whipped cream and chocolate sprinkles.
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James Woods
September 2nd, 2009
8:08 am
Wooo! Piece of candy!
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Puhlease?
September 2nd, 2009
8:11 am
One day, you query us as to how we prevent from over indulging while eating out, then another day you submit a recipe for a concoction that could kill most of us.
Great job…..Stellar.
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Puhlease?
September 2nd, 2009
8:13 am
It was beyond a mention. It was a display similar to a teen-aged girl swooning over the captain of the football team.
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Puhlease?
September 2nd, 2009
8:15 am
I get the hot chocolate and cake!
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Judith Winfrey
September 2nd, 2009
9:45 am
This just in: Slow Food USA President, Josh Viertel, will be attending our Atlanta Eat-Ins!!! let’s show him Atlanta is on fire for good food!!!
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Just Me
September 2nd, 2009
10:20 am
I hate eating in restaurants alone and rarely, if ever, do it. I don’t want to be seated at the bar eating my dinner bumped up next to people waiting to be seated. I don’t like idle chit chat about what I am eating. I realize that I am at the bar, but I still expect some privacy. If I wanted to be shoved up to people when I am eating, I would eat at a trough.
Waitstaff who take plates without asking if I am done with it are as bad as those asking if I am still ‘working on that”. I am DINING, not ‘working on it’.
Unruly children are an unpleasant experience wherever you are. I don’t know what has happened to parenting skills, but how do you expect your children to fit into society when you don’t teach them well? Manners are not that difficult to teach or learn.
I do like to pack up my own leftovers. I prefer to shovel my own food into the styrofoam containers myself. It’s not like the kitchen wraps them up pretty like they used to, in fun shapes like swans.
Thanks for the head’s up about sweet tea and sugared sodas…..gag.
Tipping well is just my way of saying “Thanks” because I didn’t have to cook or clean up and I got the chance to have really delicious food and just relax! I wish the tips extended to the kitchen staff who really did most of the work for me! Thank you all for making my dining out experiences so wonderful!
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Mary Ward
September 2nd, 2009
10:33 am
HOORAH, now I don’t have to drive to Buckhead for these wonderful desserts.
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Jeff
September 2nd, 2009
12:32 pm
Bout dang time !! I’ve been watching that empty store front for quite a while…
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EMMA
September 2nd, 2009
12:50 pm
Cake Cafe is around the corner on Candler. Their cakes are the BOMB!!!! I see a little competition and they write on their cakes whereas A Piece of Cake doesn’t.
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cgarrard
September 2nd, 2009
1:50 pm
Yum. I am excited. I have loved A Piece of Cake for a long time. Hated the drive to Buckhead though. Now it is less than a mile away!
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BShepCarlin
September 2nd, 2009
2:01 pm
Thanks for the great recipe. Pulease? needs to remember that it is all about moderation…shame on you Pulease?…what do you have against MFG??
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AJ
September 2nd, 2009
2:01 pm
Eh. I’d have to disagree with you. I think she’s just trying to write an interesting blog. Anyways, if I don’t like something I read, I click elsewhere…
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Miss Mellie
September 2nd, 2009
2:52 pm
These really are the most wonderful cakes…their coffee cake is to die for. Welcome to the ‘hood!
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Becky
September 2nd, 2009
3:07 pm
Meredith, do you know if there is a limit on the number of tickets that they will be selling? I tried to call the number you gave and it’s a recording that says the mail box is full..
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tdurham
September 2nd, 2009
3:13 pm
I am sooooo happy. They really have awesome flavored cakes for a reasonable pricing. Great for any occasion.
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Jami
September 2nd, 2009
3:24 pm
I hate when a waiter or waitress is supposed to bring back pennies or a nickel or dime with my change but rounds down instead of up! I am the customer, if my change is $.79 cents I want my 4 pennies or my nickel and 4 pennies or my dime! Don’t just give me $.70 cents saying “We don’t carry pennies or loose change.” That’s STEALING from the customer and it adds up if it happens to every diner there. Also, if I want you to keep the change I will let you know when I pay cash, don’t take my $20.00 and disappear with it for 15 minutes when the bill was only $12.00!
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Foodietoo
September 2nd, 2009
3:30 pm
I’m really surprised that no one mentioned noise-level. To me, it is very annoying to go to a nice restaurant to relax, have a glass of wine and a nice dinner and it is so loud that you have to yell to talk to your companions. The high, open ceilings look great, but it makes for a very loud place if it’s crowded.
The unruly children bother me as well, but let’s face it, it’s the parent’s fault, not the restaurant’s. Again, your paying $100 or more for a nice romantic dinner and there is a large table next to you with 3 or 4 kids running around, playing under your table, etc. and the parents are oblivious. It’s happened to me more than once! If it’s not crowded, I have asked to be moved away and the wait staff were totally understanding and accomodating.
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The FB
September 2nd, 2009
4:34 pm
It peeves me when:
1. I look at the wine list and see a bottle that I purchased yesterday at the grocery store for $10 and it is $34 on the menu.
2. About 15 minutes after eating a restaurant meal, I suddenly feel as if I have Montezuma’s Revenge.
3. I order a $7 salad only to scrape most of it aside because the lettuce has seen better days.
4. I order fish and the plate arrives smelling “fishy”
5.I am seated in a dark, dreary back corner when there are lots of tables available with a nice view.
6. Asked if I saved room for dessert while in the middle of eating my entree.
7. The entire table is referred to as “guys” when clearly some of us aren’t.
8. Salad or appetizer is served within two minutes of the entree.
9. Restaurants serve “whipped spread” rather than real butter.
10. The hostess rolls her eyes when I request to eat on the patio. Why are tables out there?
11. The check arrives without being asked if I care for dessert or an after-dinner drink.
12. Music is so loud that I must be The FB and request it to be turned down.
7. Servers who do not know how to open a bottle of wine.
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Lisa
September 2nd, 2009
5:01 pm
Here it is, the biggest pet peeve… when the waiter or waitress doesn’t write down your order. We are not there to see how great your memory powers are, we are there to get what we order. 9 times out of 10, when they don’t write it down, something is wrong.
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David Aferiat
September 2nd, 2009
5:10 pm
1. Apps’ where its at. Apps are where chefs make their mark and showcase their range of talents. These choices are already portion controlled by the chef, so ordering one or two of these is usually my strategy. Occasionally my eating partner (often my wife) and I will then split an entree.
2. Ditto on the H2O. Drinking plenty of this before the meal and right when you sit down a must. I make eye contact with the server and gently suggest leaving the water bottle with us.
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Spencer
September 2nd, 2009
7:07 pm
Sounds like a great cause, with the exceptions of the no dogs policy. Dogs belong in the park, and they love a picnic. Know your farmer bring something to make noise, but leave your pet at home. I think you should try to be more inclusive.
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Hugh-ge Fan
September 2nd, 2009
9:34 pm
YES!!! Hugh, coming to Atlanta, I can’t wait! I’ve been a follower/eater since I was up at UGA and Five and Ten was “this great little place in Five Points.” I simply love this guy’s food, and I’ve always respected his efforts to keep things more affordable. It really helped the college wallet, and will help in this down economy. Meredith, please keep us posted!!
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Nancy P. Lehman
September 3rd, 2009
12:34 am
I live in Scottsdale, AZ now but “once upon a time” I worked at Piece of Cake. Best time, best friends, BEST CAKE! You are very lucky to have it in your hood.
Enjoy!
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Brown Betty
September 3rd, 2009
8:55 am
[...] and cinnamon baked to hot, sweet perfection and served up alongside a scoop of … Cobblers and betties and piesBut what is a brown betty? Basically a deep-dish fruit dessert topped with a crumbed mixture. At [...]
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Jason Greene
September 3rd, 2009
10:43 am
Sounds fabu! When the weather starts to turn, and cools down, we head up to nearby Cafe Intermezzo/Brookwood, and get a very large cup of their Hot Chocolate w/Nutella. It does the trick.
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Jason Greene
September 3rd, 2009
10:51 am
I can deal with so-so service, and food that is just average. But what I can’t deal with, like others have said, parents who bring babies/small kids to the restaruant, and ignore them, and just let them run wild. If you can’t afford a baby sitter, stay at home with your out of control kids. As a kid dining with my parents, all it took was one look from my Day, and I got quiet. Of course same thing happens when you are at the grocery store. I guess the poor guy, who slapped someone’s baby, just had enough. That was wrong, but it shows the extent of parents who let their kids run wild.
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Kim Tennant
September 3rd, 2009
11:30 am
OMG! Yes! That is Wonderful!! I have loved Piece of Cake for a very long time! Didnt like the drive to buckhead though. I would always wait till they were sent to my office around Xmas time. Glad to see u in the Dec, now i don’t have to wait till Xmas.
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Puhlease?
September 3rd, 2009
12:36 pm
Another worthy blog. Thanks.
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AJ
September 3rd, 2009
12:54 pm
Why bother reading this blog Puhlease? It seems all you want to do is criticize?
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Ty Pike
September 3rd, 2009
1:20 pm
Glad to see some restuarants are hanging in there. Me and my lady are taking a night off from Daddy’s home cooked BBQ and we’re attending the event on Sept 19th. I hope they have some risotto with a vinegar based pulled pork to go with their Tuscan Reds and Whites.
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Tyler Pike
September 3rd, 2009
1:33 pm
I’m all over signing up for this! Thanks for the heads up. Maybe if I can master French Cooking I can finally make something that’ll compete w/ Daddy’s BBQ. I swear, it literally becomes heaven in your mouth the second you get that succulent pork in there topped with that sweet vinegar based sauce. Ooooohhhh baby, I love my Daddy’s BBQ. But I’m about to try and compete. Can’t wait until September 23!
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Puhlease?
September 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm
AJ, how did I criticize this entry? If all I wanted to do was criticize, I would not have praised this entry. Does you mommy know you are using the computer?
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philip
September 3rd, 2009
3:16 pm
I totally agree with the blowing your nose thing! That’s totally inappropriate in a restaurant. All bodily excretions should be dealt with in the bathroom.
My biggest pet peeve occurs most often in fast casual restaurants. When they spray a nearby table top to clean for the next person and either the smell of bleach consumes the area or worse, I feel the mist grace my space, I totally lose my appetite. People, please spray low, AWAY from diners, or directly on the cleaning cloth. The sanitizer solutions available are much more fragrant than bleach.
As for water service, when a server rests the pitcher lip on the rim on my glass, they take my germs and pass them on to the subsequent glass to be filled. This happens more often than it should!
Lastly, if a server brings any dishes to the table, please ensure that they’re clean!
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Tanya
September 3rd, 2009
4:32 pm
Copycats! Cooks warehouse has been advertising and doing this Julie/Julia class for a month already.
Theirs looks really interesting too.
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AJ
September 3rd, 2009
9:10 pm
Sarcasm
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Here is what you do
September 3rd, 2009
9:23 pm
Stuff your mouth with a Filet O Fish sandwich from McDonalds, chew it a little bit and then open… Viola! Seefood!
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HM Roberts
September 4th, 2009
12:40 am
i tried CamiCakes today… I ate two before I made it back to the office. They were delish and worth the extra minutes on the treadmill.
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Becky
September 4th, 2009
9:11 am
AJ, Puhlease only comes on here to grumble about everything (just about) that Meredith writes about..He/She is Meredith’s own personal critic or so they think..
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Earl
September 4th, 2009
9:31 am
No love for muffins? I thought I was a man, but I’m a muffin.
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Earl
September 4th, 2009
9:31 am
pwned
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Tyler Pike
September 4th, 2009
11:04 am
I’ve told my dad for years he should open ‘Pike’s on The River’. He could serve his patented BBQ. I guarantee you it would leave Ray’s in the dust. Heck, you put his vinegar-based sauce on some of Ray’s seafood and you’d take that to another level too.
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Tyler Pike
September 4th, 2009
11:06 am
My Dad makes some BBQ cupcakes that are literally to die for. I would’ve never believed he could’ve completed the crossover of perfect flavoring from pulled pork to cupcakes but as always, the man is perfection in human form. Best cupcakes ever…
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Justin Kirkland
September 4th, 2009
11:19 am
I’ll vouch for Pike. His Dad’s BBQ ‘cakes are simply the best. The combo of salty vinegar and sweet icing is ingenious.
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Piso
September 4th, 2009
12:12 pm
Nothing is immune to a horrible economy.
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altshirt.org
September 4th, 2009
1:28 pm
help fight the recession, go to http://www.atlshirt.org to learn more!
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RW
September 4th, 2009
1:32 pm
WOW!!! I would live to see that! BBQ Cupcakes!
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big hula
September 4th, 2009
1:33 pm
I know we’re in a recession. And I know this puts an extra strain onthe poor restaurant staff – especially the people working in the “bar” area. Now, I like a good mixology just as much as the next playa, but I came the restaurant to eat — not see-and-be-seen behind the velvet rope beyond Chili’s VIP-section.
Honestly, folks. When the entire restaurant is empty (from parking lot to table) and the “hostess” gives me a pager and points me toward the bar — my immediate thought is this would be a great time to go all “Carry Nation” on some bone-head management team.
Don’t insult my intelligence by attempting to tell me that it’s gonna take you twnety minutes to find me an empty table (”and… Hey! Why not spend that time buying one of our overpriced and under-spirited drinks in the bar!?”).
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September 4th, 2009
1:40 pm
[...] Top five for Friday: My favorite cupcakes [...]
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astheroshe
September 4th, 2009
1:49 pm
Little Cake is hands down my favorite! All the cupcakes are made fresh daily with high quality products. However, Pam and Meg ( who own the shop) do not create the fabulous cupcake flavors or bake them. This is all created by pastry chef, Kristia Paz. She deserves the credit for it’s ranking.
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Abbygirl
September 4th, 2009
2:03 pm
Have tasted several of their cakes, nothing special about them. My co-workers in Buckhead agree.
Though I live in Decatur, don’t think I will be visiting the new store.
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tami
September 4th, 2009
3:05 pm
Sad to hear. They had the best service in Atlanta, and some great mixologists. You will be missed, Trois!
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Jerry
September 4th, 2009
4:43 pm
If I’m in Decatur, it’s going to be Southern Sweets, down the street from the Dekalb Farmer’s Market
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Dave
September 4th, 2009
10:48 pm
Bahama Breeze is the only place anywhere that actually makes Mojito’s the right way…with fresh sugar cane juice squeezed to order through a sugar cane crushing machine. This guarapo is unique and no one else in town does it…I challenge anyone to dispute. Pura Vida does indeed make a good one, but even they don’t use guarapo. BB recently started serving caipirinha’s as well.
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Pat
September 4th, 2009
11:09 pm
No, but after seeing the movie today, really itching to try some of those recipes. Somehow have survived 49 years of marriage and of course cooking, without any french cuisine.
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Chris D'
September 4th, 2009
11:16 pm
Mojito’s Cuban Restaurant in Norcross serve the best Mojito I have had in Atlanta.
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ATLien
September 5th, 2009
7:49 am
4th and Swift has a cocktail made with peach bourbon and Flip has a cocktail that tastes just like sweet tea. Both divine!
I discovered French 75s in NYC at Cafe Boulud. Amazing!
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Cynthia Parten
September 6th, 2009
8:17 am
The best restaurant ever is Swallow at the Hollow BBQ in Roswell. They have the BEST biscuits in Atlanta and the barbecue is unbelievable! Their ribs are soooo good.
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Mary Lucille
September 6th, 2009
12:25 pm
Just down Candler Road is Cake Cafe – new to the area, but worth the wait for great taste. When you go in they say you can “Taste Love” and they are right. The Carmel, Red Velvet, and the Brownies are worth it. I found them in the cute little gold house.
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Atlantan
September 6th, 2009
7:03 pm
Not surprising – I thought the place was awful. I ate there once with much anticipation – my croque monsieur arrived soggy. How hard is it to screw up a ham and cheese. However the worst was seeing the table next to me find live and moving organisms (worm like) in their salmon after having eaten half of it. To make matters worse the manager was not going to comp their meal. I told everyone I know about that experience and never went back. I would encourage Concentrics to concentrate on the quality of their food and not just having an awesome spaces.
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BONNIE EVANS
September 6th, 2009
8:54 pm
I knew something was wrong when we had reservation for Midtown Restaurant Week on Friday night and they sat us in the bar area. What happened I ask the host? He said they were renovating the 2nd floor. We were handed the restaurant’s Midtown Restaurant Week’s menu with no choices and the items they picked for it was not very appetizing. We looked at the regular menu which was also very limited. There was only one other couple in the place on a Friday night at 7PM. BAD KARMA! We left and apologized to the host that it was not what we expected. We walked across the street to Park 75 at the Four Seasons Hotel where we had a terrific 3 course meal for $25, the Midtown Restaurant week promotion. Yes, they had choices and great ones that were all appetizing.
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brunchie
September 7th, 2009
12:52 pm
I know Midtown Restaurant Week got my suburban butt into the city. For me, it wasn’t really the food that left an impression but the ambiance of the restaurant and exposure to a neighborhood I’m not familiar with. Now I can get proudly show up that part of the city to out of town visitors.
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CandiLou
September 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
Sooo disappointed a Piece of Cake is not on this list…their presentation does not measure up to a CamiCakes or Atlanta Cupcake, but all of their cupcakes are amazing… Absolutely love their Carmel cupcakes when I’m in need of a sugar rush, and the peanut butter cupcakes ( when they’re in season) are to die for.
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Tyler Pike
September 8th, 2009
10:20 am
I just called my Dad and read this aloud to him. How can we get involved? He is willing to share some of his expertise when it comes to the culinary arts. Believe me, this is not an offer that anyone would want to pass up.
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mford
September 8th, 2009
10:36 am
Tyler: go to http://www.slowfoodusa.org or http://www.georgiaorganics.org and sign up! You can also sign the petition through Slow Food.
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Marie
September 8th, 2009
10:57 am
The taco place on Sugarloaf is Taco Depot and their tacos rock! Especially like the al pastor ($.99 every day) and the choripapa which is chorizo with potatoes. Frijoles refritos are excellent, too. Try it. Marie
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Earl
September 8th, 2009
11:27 am
Good god you are such a snob.
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OZZFEST
September 8th, 2009
2:36 pm
Yum, $250 meals are my favorite. A carrot tastes so much better when it has a 5-star label.
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Paul From Milton
September 8th, 2009
3:02 pm
They taste even better when money is no object and you don’t have to mingle with people who can’t afford them and then complain about it.
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Earl
September 8th, 2009
3:35 pm
Yawnnnnnn
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shankit
September 8th, 2009
4:04 pm
What’ll you have?
What’ll you have?
Heard he’s trying to get on at the Varsity.
No chance.
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What'llYaHave/What'llYaHave
September 8th, 2009
4:12 pm
I’ve been to the Ritz, done that more than once, and there’s nothing coming out of that kitchen that will change the world. It’s all pretentious hyperbole that feeds the egos of a few “foodies.”
In fact, the last time I “ate” there, my wife and I left and went straight to the Varsity; nothing – nothing – beats a chili dog and onion rings.
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Rod
September 8th, 2009
4:24 pm
Some folks lead pretty sad lives. When you read a blog about fine dining, go to the trouble to blog about it and then you reveal that you don’t even like (or can’t afford) fine dining – you must lead a pretty pathetic existence. Why don’t you folks go blog about something you do like – such as flashing your sisters.
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Tyler Pike
September 8th, 2009
4:26 pm
People wouldn’t think he was such a good chef they ever put his food side by side with my dad’s…
I completely agree w/ you guys too about the Varsity. I used to live on their Chili Dogs when I was down visiting a bunch of my friends at GA Tech.
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dave
September 8th, 2009
4:43 pm
Just a middle class family here and we celebrated my son’s 18th birthday there last year with the “Chef’s Choice” on a Saturday night in May. . . multiple interesting courses (never had lots of the items), expensive; but, we had fun and the kids and their mom and I will never forget it . . . worth every penny . . . Good luck, Chef!
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sig
September 8th, 2009
9:49 pm
imo he is the best chef in atlanta. no question. amazing
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Judith Winfrey
September 9th, 2009
2:12 am
Also, visit http://www.slowfoodusa.org/timeforlunch and sign the petition to get real food in schools.
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Earl
September 9th, 2009
8:36 am
In case some of you have not figured it out, the blog author is a self imposed snob compensating for who knows what………
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Puhlease?
September 9th, 2009
9:04 am
Just what the heck is “schmeared”
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a worker bee
September 9th, 2009
9:37 am
I work part time at a restaurant that Meridith dined at recently, and had the opportunity to serve her. I have little doubt that she takes her work very seriously and can see through the obvious attempts to make sure she has an extra-pleasant experience, some of which we were guilty of (you can be damned sure our chefs were extra fussy over the plates). She and her guests were a fun and interesting (if a little intimidating) group, and in the end it was exciting to have the opportunity. I don’t know if it was a dinner out for work or for play, as I’ve not seen a review come out, but I hope she had an enjoyable time nonetheless.
In the end any restaurant worth its salt will recognize the local reviewer, but for the best restaurants it won’t matter because they focus on making sure all their guests have a good experience. And as far as the food goes, chances are if the cooks aren’t making good food all the time it’s going to be hard to suddenly reinvent the wheel because the reviewer has come in.
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Ted
September 9th, 2009
10:25 am
schmear | sh mi(ə)r| (also schmeer, shmeer, or shmear) informal
noun
1 a corrupt or underhanded inducement; a bribe.
2 a smear or spread : the bagel so perfect with a schmear of low-fat cream cheese.
verb [ trans. ]
flatter or ingratiate oneself with (someone) : he was constantly buying us drinks and schmearing us up.
PHRASES
the whole schmear everything possible or available; every aspect of the situation : I’m going for the whole schmear.
ORIGIN 1960s: from Yiddish shmirn ‘flatter, grease.’
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mford
September 9th, 2009
10:35 am
Thanks Ted!
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Puhlease?
September 9th, 2009
12:51 pm
It’s slang. Sad to see slang perpetuated by a so called professional
Another person person proud of their origin from the murky end of the gene pool.
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jimmy
September 9th, 2009
2:03 pm
Murky end of the gene pool? Wow.
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Darin
September 9th, 2009
2:46 pm
My wife and I ate at Livingston for our anniversary recently. We had a really good experience and I was particularly impressed with the design and atmosphere. Before we left, we walked around the building and I noticed how lovely the bar looked. I’d really like to make it back here some time to sit at the bar and have some food & drink. Good to know they have nice bar food.
Speaking of nice bars, I went to Drinkshop a few weeks ago and liked it a lot. I was surprised because I had read some mixed reviews online — and the prices were very high — but it did have a great, elegant atmosphere for nice cocktails that is similar to what I imagine the Livingston bar is like.
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dh
September 9th, 2009
3:25 pm
I’ve eaten a lot of ribs around town and think I’m fairly forgiving when it comes to different styles, but these always seem to disappoint me. The most fat of any I’ve run across in town, mushy ribs that are boiled then finished on the grill with good grill marks but absolutely no smoke! Yes they are big. No, they are neither cheap nor particularly good.
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donkey200
September 9th, 2009
3:26 pm
I think Ray’s stinks. Terrible place to work. Saw worms in the fish on the buffet when I was working there.
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AJ
September 9th, 2009
3:49 pm
Puhlease? always has a snide comment. I think he trolls this site solely to insult. He or she clearly doesn’t understand the concept of a blog. Puhlease? – If you’re going to criticize, you should at least make sure your grammar is correct.
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Kathryn Duckworth
September 9th, 2009
3:59 pm
How could you forget Sweet Pockets??? By far the best cupcakes in town!
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Becky
September 10th, 2009
8:53 am
It’s ok that Meredith is from the murky end of the gene pool, we wouldn’t want anyone in our family to be from the clear end of the gene pool..
Oh and by the way, what is a person person?
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Darin
September 10th, 2009
10:39 am
This sounds like a very cool idea for this space.
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Ted
September 10th, 2009
10:59 am
Go Ricardo!
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Joe inN. Calif
September 10th, 2009
11:51 am
Deep fried steak is a classic cowboy/chuckwagon dish. Face it, it is just prejudice that made them not like it. Deep fry chicken? Classic! Deep fry turkey? Innovative! Deep fry pork belly? Thinking outside the box to bring out the best of the ingredient! Deep fry steak? ABOMINATION! ANATHAMA!
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RK
September 10th, 2009
12:08 pm
Gee, valet parking in Atlanta? (yes, I know people complained before)
Just get the tacos al pastor right and I’ll be there every week.
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Linda Fride
September 10th, 2009
12:59 pm
Hi,
This sunday i tried elenis Ny cupcakes in manhattan with custom image of my choice and those are amzing i would like to share with you people if you are looking for tasty and beautiful cupcakes then visit them online where you can create your own cupcakes as well
http://www.elenis.com/
Linda
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kristin
September 10th, 2009
3:13 pm
Jamie Deen blows him out of the water by a mile long.
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bk
September 10th, 2009
3:53 pm
My husband and I tried Maddys and we were not satisfied at all. I really thought that they would be pretty good, but not. TOO much fat on the ribs, and the taste was not like they were grilled. I don’t care if the ibs are big or not, just as long as they are good!!!
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Katie Anderson
September 10th, 2009
4:35 pm
You have to try MY SWEET CAKERY in Alpharetta, Ga. They have the most wonderful bakery items we have ever tasted. The cupcakes are not only delicious but are decorated to perfection. We celebrated our mother’s 80th birthday and MY SWEET CAKERY did all of the deserts for the party. We enjoyed a scrumptous birthday cake, two flavors of “to die for” cookies, the perfect Savannah pralines and more. We cannot say enough about this young woman who truly has a talent for baking. Try her and you will agree.
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nic
September 10th, 2009
5:08 pm
Puhlease……………..Go (expletive) yourself.
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Amy
September 10th, 2009
5:42 pm
They have their new license. The restaurant is still awesome. The Food is still fabulous. The staff is wonderful. Chef Holata and the rest of the chefs are c’est magnifique. All the negativity is unnecessary.
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Jay
September 10th, 2009
9:53 pm
Any city that has a high crime problem is a reflection of poor parenting. Period. Both mothers and fathers are responsible for this mess. Learn how to parent your kids propperly or stop having them. Poverty is not an excuse for poor parenting. It has nothing to do with love. Stop slapping, cursing and talking down to your kids, mothers. Start discipling your kids with love when they are young fathers. All they really want is for you to be around and show love.Your kids will go as you teach them. Or they will learn from the street if you are no there fathers.Now if you can’t do this you need to cover up and stop acting like a wild dog when you smell a woman.It’s not funny. This is very, very serious.
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workingmom
September 11th, 2009
8:33 am
You were so quick to gloat that Joel Brasserie lost their liquor license a few weeks ago. Funny there is no mention in your blog now that they have had it reinstated…
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jimmy
September 11th, 2009
9:41 am
The “Swifty” sandwich at M&T is sick. They also have some very cool beers. I recommend sitting at their small bar, ordering an app, and trying a few of them out.
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Thanks
September 11th, 2009
10:12 am
Thank you for this list and thank you, thank you, thank you for not mentioning “phatty cakes” in this article – you don’t know how sick and tired I am of reading about these “phatty cakes” – it seems like a day cannot go by without the AJC or some other publication drooling over these dough balls. Talk about overexposure. I’ll never have one because of all this publicity. Again, thank you.
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Tyler Pike
September 11th, 2009
10:14 am
I don’t know why this false article is still up. Either put my dad’s BBQ on the list or take the list down. This is an absolute travesty.
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Darin
September 11th, 2009
10:55 am
Toscano & Sons is a great little (and I do mean little) place. Their sandwiches make a really good, simple lunch — the Viola one is my favorite.
I also enjoy the store’s selection of sauces and pasta. It’s all quality stuff. I can pretty much run in here and randomly grab a box and a jar off the shelf and end up with a nice Italian dinner.
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Jeff
September 11th, 2009
11:00 am
US Cafe on South Cobb has the best wings in town.
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Merideth Ford
September 11th, 2009
11:33 am
Hey Workingmom…..I’m ignoring you!
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Merideth Ford
September 11th, 2009
11:43 am
I’m a moron OK?
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Voice of Reason
September 11th, 2009
11:50 am
Jamal’s has the best wings in town, no contest, discussion closed.
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Diane
September 11th, 2009
12:03 pm
I know we’re changing the subject because we’re talking about wings. THE BEST wings in town are at Clays Sports Bar on Roswell road. They cook their wings to perfection and I only speak for myself the lemon pepper wings are just off the chain.
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Becky
September 11th, 2009
12:03 pm
Meredith, guess you knew that you didn’t have to tell it, someone always points out what you do wrong!? Hope everyone has a great weekend..
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Darin
September 11th, 2009
12:12 pm
Wow — my wife and I went here for a honeymoon dinner a few years ago and had an incredible experience. Hard to believe it’s closing.
I assume the Ritz Buckhead will be redeveloping the space as a different restaurant?
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Tops
September 11th, 2009
12:14 pm
Everyone knows Taco Mac has the best wings. If you didn’t know that, you must not have ever tried them.
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A.S.
September 11th, 2009
12:21 pm
This is such a shame. Atlanta is about to loose one of its only true fine dining restaurants.
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RollerGirl
September 11th, 2009
12:24 pm
It seems like anything refined and traditional is going away in this ghetto of a city ..maybe the RC will grace us with another menu of pop-culture crap like most of the so-called restaurants in Buckhead. I can’t wait to try the Jalepeno almond crusted bison burgers and deep fried sushi.
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RK
September 11th, 2009
12:26 pm
On the bright side, Joel has their liquor license back.
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Badger31201
September 11th, 2009
12:36 pm
This is sad. My best friend and I took our Senior Prom dates here for a pre-dance dinner in 1986, just the four of us. What a memorable night!
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Frankly
September 11th, 2009
12:37 pm
“refined and traditional” = old and dated.
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Norcross
September 11th, 2009
12:38 pm
You got it RollerGirl! RC should announce plans to open a KFC tomorrow.
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shaggy
September 11th, 2009
12:39 pm
I hear Shane’s Rib Shack is moving into the space.
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Robert
September 11th, 2009
12:44 pm
At least Emeril’s went first!
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blady
September 11th, 2009
12:44 pm
I held my IBM Quarter-Century luncheon there. What a classy place!
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ML
September 11th, 2009
12:45 pm
Sorry to say, but I’m not at all surprised. We had dinner at the Ritz a couple years ago and it was a strange assortment of dishes. A $200.00 bottle of wine we ordered had turned to vinegar and after some reluctance they finally agreed and we were able to order another. The room is beautiful and the service was professional, although rather stilted.
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Old School Atlanta
September 11th, 2009
12:47 pm
Bring back…….. Mammy’s Shanty !!!!!!!
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LSWho?
September 11th, 2009
12:48 pm
Sad, but fine dining in general is on its way out in lots of places.
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Bob from Accounttemps
September 11th, 2009
12:51 pm
As most of the posters show, it was a great restaurant for that special evening once every 10 years. That’s not enough to keep even the best restaurant going, especially in this economy. Given RollerGirl’s snide comment, I’m curious if she even ever ate at the place. The fact is, times change and the DR apparently didn’t. Bacchanalia is still going strong, but has kept pace with the current tastes of the dining public. Traditional means “stodgy” and, like classical music, just being “good for you” isn’t enough reason to drop a considerable load on dinner.
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MLo
September 11th, 2009
12:54 pm
My wife and I had our post engagement dinner here 2 years ago. She said yes and we had a fabulous meal at the RC Dining room. The staff treated us even better that we could have imagined and a nice older couple celebrating their anniversary 2 tables over sent us a bottle of Champagne but didn’t do it until after they had left. Just classy. The food and service are both professional and that type of celebratory food will be missed in Atlanta. We need to support fine dining and forward culinary thinking. Sadly, this is what happens when we don’t. Hearing this and that Cuerno which was the only true restaurant serving the cuisine of Spain in town will now be a Taqueria on the same day makes me sad. I’m not a fan of most Buckhead restaurants but the Dining Room and new players like Craft are reasons to go and make our city better.
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Robert
September 11th, 2009
12:55 pm
OMG – IBM Quarter-Century? Now that is something else that is going to way of the doo-doo. Longevity at any company is unheard of these days. I hope that was 5 years ago, blady, and you have enjoyed a great retirement celebration as well! Congrats on the 25 years.
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GP
September 11th, 2009
12:57 pm
wreckmaniac Honto was closed down becasue it received several very low food scores. If I recall 26 stands out in my mind.
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Lilburn Lady
September 11th, 2009
12:58 pm
Your right Bob about the snide comments. People who have been working in the dining room for 20+ years are losing thier jobs. I should know cause we are part of the Ritz family. A sad day for this family.
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ATLdiner
September 11th, 2009
12:59 pm
I love fine dining but I found the DR overpriced, pretentious, and honestly, not worth the money. Granted I only went once but once was enough.
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Skee Wee90
September 11th, 2009
1:00 pm
Roller girl If Atlanta is so Ghetto then Move, you are probably not from here anyway. Do you need a Uhaul? so you can roll you ass out of atlanta?
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Steve in Buford
September 11th, 2009
1:00 pm
well there is a McDonalds near by so who cares?
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Lynn
September 11th, 2009
1:02 pm
My husband and I took our two kids there one Christmas morning for brunch when the family drama was just to much to bear. I’ll never forget my 12 year old daughter looking at me with wide eyes and saying “Mom, this is truley a feast!”
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SadAtlantan
September 11th, 2009
1:04 pm
wow! Atlanta really seems to be going down hill. Nightlife is practically non-existant. Vagrants are taking over the streets with
no police in sight. Boutiques cant stay in business because gangs rob them regularly. And now the best restaurants in town are leaving. I guess it’s a sign that things are only getting worse. =(
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Open eyes!!
September 11th, 2009
1:07 pm
Its called evolution people!!! Great place with wonderful food, but change is the only constant in the world. There is no need to resort to insults and belittling of current taste in dining. Enjoy it for what it is / was and look forward to new and exciting dining experiences.
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Cooter
September 11th, 2009
1:08 pm
Good deal! Maybe somebody will open up a rib or chicken place in there. Something we can all enjoy.
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Jason
September 11th, 2009
1:08 pm
Sad, I proposed to my wife here over dinner. On top of it being an obvious occasion to remember, the staff made it even more memorable.
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Dan
September 11th, 2009
1:08 pm
Fine Dining going away in Atlanta? Not quite so….if that were the case, La Grotta (Buckhead) would be going away. Don’t confuse the Dining Room with top notch dining…it was a hotel restaurant and hotel clients have quite a variety of places to go for less money and better service.
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Kim
September 11th, 2009
1:12 pm
I have frequented the Ritz-Carlton, Buckhead, so many times over the past 25 years that it remains a regular part of my weekly schedule. I attend weddings, charity and social events, high teas, and even meetings there on a regular basis, always treated like a princess by every last member of the staff, from the valet who remembers my name (’spelled like the soccer star’) to the meeting attendant who pours me a glass of water (’with bubbles, not without’).
One particular occasion from the dining room stands out for me, however -a birthday dinner. The chef prepared a five-course meal, complete with a bottle of Don Perignon. While they may not have been serving me solely that night, they certainly made me feel like I was the only one to whom they directed their fabled quality service. I do not remember which birthday it was, but I will never forget sitting in that booth, listening to soft music, and consuming the most delicious morsels – truly heaven on earth. I thank you for the memories.
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Things Change
September 11th, 2009
1:13 pm
There was a time when I enjoyed both Seegar’s and The Dinning Room and was proud that Atlanta had two restaurants of that calibre. I have eaten in several 1 to 3 star Michelin restaurants in Europe and none were better than what we had in Atlanta.
However, the costs continued to go up, the service became uneven at times and frankly over time I just couldn’t over indulge at that level anymore; by about the 7th course I was miserable and begging for mercy.
My last visit to The Dinning Room was on my birthday two years ago. The place was practically empty, the service was stiff and humorless and the food while creative just didn’t seem to be worth the $800.00 for just my wife and I.
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The End of an Era
September 11th, 2009
1:13 pm
I just made my reservations for Oct. 1. What a night that will be!
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Things Change
September 11th, 2009
1:14 pm
There was a time when I enjoyed both Seegar’s and The Dinning Room and was proud that Atlanta had two restaurants of that calibre. I have eaten in several 1 to 3 star Michelin restaurants in Europe and none were better than what we had in Atlanta.
However, the costs continued to go up, the service became uneven at times and frankly over time I just couldn’t over indulge at that level anymore; by about the 7th course I was miserable and begging for mercy.
My last visit to The Dinning Room was on my birthday two years ago. The place was practically empty, the service was stiff and humorless and the food while creative just didn’t seem to be worth the $800.00 for just my wife and I. I knew the end was near. Seegar’s was already gone.
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Actually
September 11th, 2009
1:14 pm
That was reported by someone here on another one of your blogs…..Top notch journalism! Where did you go to school?
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Name Dropper
September 11th, 2009
1:17 pm
Good god….Does it make you feel like a big shot to drop all those names? We’re not impressed.
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Bill in Woodstock
September 11th, 2009
1:19 pm
This is terrible news! What a loss to the Atlanta restaurant scene. My wife and I have dined here numerous times to celebrate our wedding anniversary. The food has always been wonderful and the service beyond compare. I always recommend The Dining Room as the best restaurant in Atlanta, “insanely expensive and worth every penny.” We will really miss it.
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Actually
September 11th, 2009
1:19 pm
Hey Workingmom…..Seems M Ford made a blog post revealing that Joel Brasserie got their liquor license back. Sadly, she did not credit you for this “breaking” news.
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SHS
September 11th, 2009
1:26 pm
More than 10 years ago, my spouse and I went to the Dining Room at the Ritz Carlton for a special dinner to celebrate a special occasion. It was nearly empty. A family of 4 was seated about fifteen minutes after we were. The two children in the family of 4 proceeded to run around the dining room, yell, climb on the chairs, argue with each other, cry loudly and, in general, behave badly. The parents seemed oblivious. Our expensive, supposed-to-be-special dining experience was ruined. We asked our waiter, first, and then the maitre d’ to take control of the situation — preferably by asking the family to leave if the children could not behave appropriately. The waiter said there was nothing he could do and the maitre d’ refused to do anything. I have not been back to the Dining Room at the Ritz since then.
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JM
September 11th, 2009
1:26 pm
got engaged there…the dinner was better than the marriage
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eater
September 11th, 2009
1:32 pm
When I was younger, I used to work at a ritz carlton (still carry my credo card in my wallet). now that I am a professional, i go back to the RC-Buck just to relive that great time. at the DR, the service for me has been steady and terrific. the customer service skills I learned while working there have paid off significantly in my current position.
sad to see it go.
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New Stepmom
September 11th, 2009
1:32 pm
My husband and I had a honeymoon meal there as well. It was exquisite and the service was fabulous. I hate we will not make it back before they close.
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The Real Patron
September 11th, 2009
1:33 pm
My wife and I had the most memorable dining experience there. It was a special event and the staff was outstanding. Service, civility and the food all the best!
It will be missed.
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Now Hold On A Minute
September 11th, 2009
1:34 pm
I keep reading all of these allusions to “ribs” and “chicken”. We all know that is code for a certain minority. However Atlanta has less minorities than it used to, so they would have no affect upon the RC because they don’t eat there much in the first place.
“Refined and Traditional”? Are you sure about all of that? Did y’all know that the venerable RC is owned by Saudi Arabians and has been for a very long time? Is that what comes to mind by “refined and traditional” in Atlanta?
While I think it’s sad that the place is closing, but there are still plenty of pretentious and over-priced dinning experiences to be had in this city. Personally, the best experiences I’ve had are at places without pretension and where one can find a slice of the populace having a good time and not worrying about making a political statement with their choice of restaurant.
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eater
September 11th, 2009
1:35 pm
SHS – a little inside tip, you should have asked to speak with the manager or the head chef. each RC employee is given up to $500 comp to help ease “opportunities” (they dont say problems). They can get permission for more. your dinner would likely have been comped.
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George and Cheryl
September 11th, 2009
1:37 pm
Oh my what a loss. The service and food was great. We will never forget our visit it was a memorable experience.
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Diane Cox
September 11th, 2009
1:37 pm
We used to love the Ritz! The last time we went, 1 year ago, there were obvious drug dealers all over the lounge. We left and have not been back! No wonder it is closing!
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cletus T Rockafella
September 11th, 2009
1:39 pm
Yes, the dump, formally known as emeril’s did close first (Thank God!). This place? Well, for fine dining we still have waffle house. That’s all you need. Think about the overpriced ($800?) food atlanta will miss.
Goodbye & good riddance.
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Amy
September 11th, 2009
1:40 pm
The Ritz would often celebrate Valentine’s Day with a chocolate themed event. In 2005 Chef Bruno Menard created a lunch (presented as a cooking class!!) served in the Dining Room that was designed around chocolate. The first course had a chocolate vinegar on a fancy oyster, the second course was beef tenderloin with red wine/cacao sauce and then there was a wonderful chocolate dessert. It was all made with French chocolate selected by Chef Menard. The presentation was beautiful and each course came with specially selected wine. I still have the menu, the recipes and photos of every course that was served. Chef Menard came around and spoke to everyone. It was a lunch to remember.
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CJKatl
September 11th, 2009
1:41 pm
My 40th birthday, group of ten friends, everyone still talks about the memorable meal at The Dining Room.
When I told my friends that I wanted us to go the The Dining Room for my birthday, everyone seemed a little surprised. It just wasn’t somewhere we go. We are all financially secure and could afford it, we just never really thought of it as a place to go.
Many people are blaming the economy and shifting tastes, but maybe some of the blame has to go to the people who were in charge of marketing The Dining Room. As Atlanta expanded and shifted, it seems the RitzC didn’t reach out and remind people to consider dining there for special and everyday occasions. Until seeing this article, I hadn’t thought of this place in years, but would think of myself as part of the right target audience for RitzC marketing, but not as someone who regularly dines in Buckhead. Maybe reminding people of this jewel in their own hometown might have increased foot traffic some, rather than just depending upon the typical upscale Buckhead residents that hang out in the RitzC bar.
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Sabryna66
September 11th, 2009
1:42 pm
It’s sad anytime you lose a little bit of tradition in our contemporary times, but what makes me even sadder is to scroll down hoping to read interesting stories about folks’ memories about dining at the Ritz, and it turns into an ugly rant about the city…okay, we all know the city can be better, but goodness, if it’s that bad, run for mayor, city council, something to make it better.
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Lilburn Lady
September 11th, 2009
1:45 pm
eater, your wrong about the $500 comp each employee has. I would know cause my hubby works there.
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Virginia
September 11th, 2009
1:48 pm
Some friends and I enjoyed high tea during the holidays here a few times. Lovely!
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RK
September 11th, 2009
1:57 pm
Great point — today, fine dining is Bacchanalia, not the Ritz.
MLo, maybe the Iberian Pig will pick up for Cuerno.
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The Only Moderate
September 11th, 2009
2:04 pm
I’m assuming the $800 is not average, and included $200-300 of wine.
Even at $400/couple my wife and I would not enjoy it.
You’re right; they never did any promotion.
You’re wrong; I’m a Euro-American Republican, and I bbq’d chicken and ribs on Labor Day.
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CatherineAtlanta
September 11th, 2009
2:04 pm
We had dinner there a decade ago or so and had among the worst fine dining experiences of my life. The wait staff was arrogant, our table was stuck near an entrance door of some kind, and the food was only adequate. I’m glad to hear that they are closing. All the more business for the truly dedicated purveyors at Bacchanalia and other serious establishments around town. The Dining Room was all hat no cattle.
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Horrace
September 11th, 2009
2:04 pm
I found a pubic hair in my soup when I was there. It was gross.
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Malted Falcon
September 11th, 2009
2:06 pm
The only fine dining place in the area now with a little tradition is Anthony’s, still hidden away there on Piedmont. I guess I’ll be going there more now.
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John
September 11th, 2009
2:08 pm
A friend celebrated her 30th birthday there 15 years ago. Her family said that she could invite one friend because it was “so expensive.” I wasn’t the one selected.
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Jack Schitt
September 11th, 2009
2:13 pm
Horrace….sorry that was mine. I mistook the kitchen for the restroom.
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MR164
September 11th, 2009
2:20 pm
Nice place, great service, but a bit out date. I think they should just revamp the dinning room and the menu. I have never had a meal there that I felt was worth the price of the bill.
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AJ
September 11th, 2009
2:20 pm
But I read it here, not the other Blog. So thank you Meredith. And seriously, Actually, get over yourself. Where did YOU go to school?
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Hannah
September 11th, 2009
2:21 pm
CatherineAtlanta,
Did sitting by a door of some kind REALLY interfere with your meal? I’m a hostess at a restaurant (nothing fancy) and it amazes me that people refuse to sit near a door of any kind, even a door that has never been opened. What does it matter? Do you REALLY sit there and think about how AWFUL it is throughout your meal? Does it REALLY make your food taste worse? It’s one thing for a restaurant to be pretentious, but it’s another thing for a CUSTOMER to be pretentious.
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AnnieR
September 11th, 2009
2:21 pm
LMAO @ Jack Schitt!!! Never been there and can’t afford to now, but sorry that folks are going to lose their jobs.
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Carlos
September 11th, 2009
2:31 pm
Meredith, you forgot to mention arguably the best chef in the planet; Bruno Menard. I frequented the Dining Room until Bruno decided to move to Japan. After Bruno left, the dining experience, wine pairing and assortment of desserts took a significant decline; albeit the service remained the same.
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Tonya
September 11th, 2009
2:33 pm
So sad, I got engaged there! They helped make it an unforgetable night!
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just thinking...
September 11th, 2009
2:34 pm
Nice sentence fragment AJ. And seriously, Actually, did you finish school?
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AlG
September 11th, 2009
2:34 pm
I’m surprised it took so long. This was the “emperor’s new clothes” of restaurants. The ambience and service were both superb, but the food was so “sophisticated” that mere mortals couldn’t really enjoy it, but too overpriced for most to admit it. One such experience there was enough for my wife and me. There are far better meals to be had elsewhere.
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Amy
September 11th, 2009
2:41 pm
Meridith-I hope you have a thick skin and can ignore all of these folks who chime in just to complain or criticize you. I am not sure why they read your blogs if you bother them so much?! They need to get a life and go bug someone else.
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I.P Freeley
September 11th, 2009
2:41 pm
Sorry about that hair… Soup??? Uh think again there cowboy!
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Robert
September 11th, 2009
2:51 pm
I want to be pissy too!
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HotPockets
September 11th, 2009
2:56 pm
Do they sell Bud?
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Ann
September 11th, 2009
3:02 pm
My husband and I ate at the RC when we lived in Atlanta. The RC makes you feel like you are the one and only for a night of dining. We had the pleasure of meeting Guenter Seeger and loved his dishes. Food was excellent and have dined since at at his own place before it closed.
Sorry to see first class go away in any see but most of all Atlanta.
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BPJ
September 11th, 2009
3:17 pm
“luckydog”, study a map. The Ritz-Carlton BUCKHEAD is not in Downtown.
I’ll be sorry to see it close, although I agree it hasn’t been as good since Menard left. We still have Joel, Aria, Bacchanalia and many others. No, Atlanta’s not in decline.
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Bubba
September 11th, 2009
3:22 pm
*whew* – for a moment I thought I’d lost my source of Night Train!
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Bubba
September 11th, 2009
3:22 pm
http://www.bumwine.com/
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Don Billings
September 11th, 2009
3:31 pm
My wife Helen and I got married at the Ritz-Carlton Buckhead and have shared several wonderful meals in The Dining Room, one very memorable one was a Truffles theme dinner. Our most recent event was for my Son Adam and his fiancee Brittany to celebrate their engagement. We will miss the RC but cherish the memories.
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Bill
September 11th, 2009
3:33 pm
Old, tired, boring, and stuffy. Good riddance.
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Bernie Madoff
September 11th, 2009
3:35 pm
Darn…I was hoping to dine there when I get out of prison. Who cares how much it costs. Its not like I was spending my own money, you know!
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Jack Schitt
September 11th, 2009
3:38 pm
“Things Change”….please tell me you did not really spend $800 for a freaking dinner for you and your wife? Are you a total dumbass or just not good at managing your money? You definitely do not know Jack Schitt.
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Laurie
September 11th, 2009
3:44 pm
In my former job we had a division manager that would take a few of us every Christmas for a long and wonderful lunch at the Ritz. It became such a ritual that a we all started talking about our luncheon in July prior to Christmas. That divine man is now in the stages of alzhiemers but when ever I see him he remembers the fellowship we all shared at the Ritz.
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Criff
September 11th, 2009
3:47 pm
Cooter and Kim should go together and enjoy the Dom Perignon and Possum special.
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JackP
September 11th, 2009
3:49 pm
With the closing goes another victory for the great unwashed who dominate the streets of Atl and discourage people from going to restaurants.
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BrookhavenBob
September 11th, 2009
3:53 pm
Very sad! I must have been to the Dining Room 20 times over the last 20 years. It was always very expensive and a special occasion restaurant, but given our current economic situation it’s hard to justify the expense. It’s been over a year since the last time I went. The last meal my wife and I had there was absolute perfection. I have been to many great restaurants around the world and I would always compare them to the Dining Room. This is a great loss for the city of Atlanta.
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Beth777
September 11th, 2009
3:53 pm
It is really sad to see The Dining Room close. My husband and I have shared several special dinners there.
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Zinger
September 11th, 2009
3:54 pm
This place is crap! I am glad it is closing. My wife got sick from eating at this place. I thought thisplace was wayyyy too stuffy and reminded me of the so called upscale restaurants of the 60’s. Time to being in domethnig new and hip!
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sad brotha
September 11th, 2009
3:54 pm
It’s a brutal business. Maybe Ted Turner and George McKerrow can open at Ted’s Montana Grill in the space?
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Sunshine and Thunder
September 11th, 2009
3:54 pm
I ate there many times but what stands out in my memory is the story a friend of mine tells. He and his wife took a client and the client’s wife to the DR one Saturday night. After dinner they were still hungry so they went to Manuel’s Tavern and ordered beer and chili dogs.
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CJKatl
September 11th, 2009
3:56 pm
Where to start?
Virginia – the Afternoon Tea is served in the Lobby Lounge, which is not closing. Only The Dining Room is closing.
Luckydog – I’m not sure what closing The Dining Room at the RitzC in BUCKHEAD has to do with DOWNTOWN. If a store closes at Lenox, do we need to worry about the impact on Five Points? There are two different RtizC hotels in the City.
Diane Cox – the hotel isn’t closing, just The Dining Room. What your perception of those in the lounge had to do with The Dining Room is beyond me.
Catherine/Atlanta – it’s not like there are really any tables next to the door, as the door is down a long flight of steps. There kitchen door is behind a semi-wall, so I’m not sure what door you could have possibly been near. Given there is no rush of air when the door is open, nor does anyone enter until their tables are ready, I’m also confused how sitting nearer the entry might be distracting.
MR164 – Yes, The Dining Room invoked a past era, and could be described as being in need of modernization. That may have saved the place. I still think keeping things the way they were could have also worked if they presented themselves to the entire city as a retro-elegant choice for dining, rather than just expected people to come to the Ritz.
Jack S – Unless anyone asked you to contribute to the bill, what difference does it make to you if TC spent $800 on a meal? That money went towards paying the waiter, busman, host and chefs, as well as the meat supplier and his employees, the china supplier and his employees, etc… One of the things that made The Dining Room such a treat was the number of people serving you and cooking for you. Many of those people are facing unemployment now. Dont’ begrudge that TC helped keep those people employed.
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jakesdad
September 11th, 2009
3:56 pm
I guess Whoopi Goldberg’s call for boycott finally succeeded (yes, I’m dating myself…)
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ATLJno
September 11th, 2009
3:57 pm
Although it is sad to see such an icon go, that sort of dining is very much “out” these days and it’s a miracle The Dining Room was open as long as it was. It’s tough for restaurants to continue as merely a celebration destination, particularly one whose ambiance isn’t particularly celebratory or festive. Let’s get excited as we wait to hear what will fill the space. Hopefully something great that will be a bit more fitting to current tastes and styles.
As for the earlier post by “Now Hold On a Minute”, he/she is mistaken. The Ritz-Carlton brand is owned by Marriott and the Buckhead hotel itself is owned by Host Hotels (who also own the Four Seasons on 14th St and many other hotels in town, although not the Ritz-Carlton downtown.) “Hold On” may be thinking of the Four Seasons brand (based in Toronto), which has a great deal of middle eastern royal family ownership.
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whatever
September 11th, 2009
3:59 pm
lilbern, i assure you it was that way at the ritz i worked at. maybe its different from ritz to ritz, but i do not think so. it was $500 without manager approval.
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BigAppleGeorgiaPeach
September 11th, 2009
4:01 pm
There isn’t a meal on earth worth $800/couple. Especially if there’s a possibility that the wine has turned to vinegar and the staff gets mad at YOU. Come on, people; wake up to what’s truly important in life!!
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songbird
September 11th, 2009
4:03 pm
I wonder if they are closing the restaurants at the other Ritz locations around the country. I had dinner at the Ritz in Laguna Niguel several years ago. The price was crazy, but it was a special occasion and I enjoyed it very much. If you’ve never been to the Ritz in Laguna Niguel, CA, it’s spectacularly beautiful.
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John
September 11th, 2009
4:03 pm
If you didn’t have to walk by the no tipping riff raff crowd in the bar to get to the retaurant, it would have made it. People want to sit down for a drink in what used to be a great bar before and after a great dining experience, but the bar is taken over on many weekend nights by an unsavory bunch. That completely diminishes the experience
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Atlanta Guy
September 11th, 2009
4:07 pm
Fine dining is still alive at La Grotta. Only true Buckhead residents understand it, though. Let’s keep it that way.
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Lil Bow Wow
September 11th, 2009
4:09 pm
Wow. I guess next thing the hotel will be turned into low income section 8. Can’t wait to move out of the Atlanta area!!!!
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John
September 11th, 2009
4:11 pm
Atlanta Guy: you just blew it for all of us
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Mark
September 11th, 2009
4:13 pm
I worked for the Ritz-Carlton, Atlanta International Sales Office in 1990 when it was HQ’d here in Atlanta. It was a great job and I won a sales contest with the prize being dinner in the Dining Room. I took my girlfriend at the time and we had a meal I will never forget as I had never dined like that before. As great as the meal was, it was small in portions as most gourmet meals are but being young at the time and a growing appetite I left very hungry and we went to the Waffle House to get fully gratified immediately afterward. It wasn’t that bad to do then as W.B. Johnson owned the Ritz-Carlton + had ownership in a number of Waffle Houses so I was actually being a “company man”.
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Seth
September 11th, 2009
4:14 pm
La Grotta is not flashy enough for the Buckhead day trade or OTP dinner crowd. It’s still safe.
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Paul
September 11th, 2009
4:16 pm
My family took me to the dining room to celebrate my college graduation from Georgia State. By far one of the most memorable dining experiences I have had in Atlanta. I’m sorry to see it close and even more sorry that I can’t make it back one last time, as I am currently in grad school and on an extremely limited budget. I have eaten at many Ritz Carltons over the years and this one is second only to the Ritz in St. Thomas, VI, which has an absolutely amazing setting.
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John
September 11th, 2009
4:17 pm
Good point Seth. Enough said
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Kip Killinger
September 11th, 2009
4:17 pm
With this news, does anyone know how many actual 5 star dining establishments are left in the fine state of Georgia.
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Paul
September 11th, 2009
4:19 pm
My parents took me there to celebrate my college graduation and it was definitely one of my most memorable dining experiences in Atlanta. Having eaten at a number of Ritz locations around the world, my experience in Buckhead was second only to the Ritz in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, as the setting there is simply breathtaking on the outdoor terrace. I’m sorry to see it close!!
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Tricia
September 11th, 2009
4:23 pm
Say it isn’t so! I’ll be forced to go to the St. Regis now for a fine hotel dining and bar experience. Surely they wont’ let the trash crowd in there.
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Foodie
September 11th, 2009
4:23 pm
I only enjoyed the Ritz Dining Room infrequently. I remember a Christmas party my first visit. We had dover sole as one course and the staff very kindly demonstrated how to use the fish knife to debone the filets in a way that was helpful without being condesending. Everything was wonderful and we all enjoyed it tremendously. A real treat that will be missed.
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Parrothead
September 11th, 2009
4:26 pm
I guess we should feel guilty for not going there enough?
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Kip Killinger
September 11th, 2009
4:26 pm
Paul……nevermind……..jeesh it’s hard to leave it alone at times.
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BPJ
September 11th, 2009
4:28 pm
In the midst of the most severe recession since the Great Depression, a very fine and expensive restaurant closes……..and some people conclude there must be something wrong with Atlanta! Get a grip, folks. In the next recovery, fine new restaurants will open, though perhaps less traditional ones.
And please, just because you love the Varsity or Manuel’s, please don’t feel threatened by people whose tastes differ from yours….that’s part of what makes the world interesting. (For myself, I have enjoyed The Dining Room and Joel, and Manuel’s and the Varsity, depending on the occasion and the mood of the moment.)
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RK
September 11th, 2009
4:29 pm
Ah, this is now the lead story on ajc.com. That explains all of the stupid posts.
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catcta
September 11th, 2009
4:30 pm
I had the pleasure of dining at the Ritz a handful of times…each time was unique and memorable! The service was impeccable and the food a real treat to the taste buds–although not quite as wonderful when Chef Bruno left
I understand that such a dining experience isn’t too affordable these days but I am sorry to see it will no longer be an option! best of luck to all the staff and thanks for memories!
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BigAppleGeorgiaPeach
September 11th, 2009
4:31 pm
Don’t any of you people have JOBS???
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Very sad
September 11th, 2009
4:32 pm
I used to work at the R-C, Buckhead, and some of the finest people I know worked in the Dining Room. They were very genuine and professional. I wish I could remember the name of the fine gentleman who was maitre d’. I learned so much about customer service from him. Good Luck to all that work there and who will soon be job-hunting.
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Kip Killinger
September 11th, 2009
4:32 pm
CJKATI – Do you feel better now? Lassie!
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Scott
September 11th, 2009
4:35 pm
In this new economy, I’m enjoying Houstons a lot more. And the trendy set is dining at the restaurants on the Westside now. I still long for the days of the fine dining experience, though.
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Jackie Taylor
September 11th, 2009
4:35 pm
Had my fiftieth birthday party there, and althought I honestly can’t remember what how the food tasted, it was an event to remember. My best friend and my husband conspired to create a very memorable birthday. I was blindfolded with no idea of where we were headed, and when we arrived, I was amazed to find many good friends and a dining table with framed photos of my life as placesettings! I’ll never forget the Ritz Carlton Dining Room, and how lucky I am to have such friends.
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Jack Schitt
September 11th, 2009
4:36 pm
Paul…thanks for the thrilling story of your life. Do you have any jewels about spending the weekends at your mountain chalet that you can share with us? You sir, do not know Jack Schitt.
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Ralph Peters
September 11th, 2009
4:38 pm
This is a shame indeed! The DR was a fixture for many years at the RC and will be missed.
Has anyone been to the new spa at the RC? I’ve heard good things.
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Fat Albert
September 11th, 2009
4:38 pm
Atlanta is like school in summer – no class.
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Michelle
September 11th, 2009
4:42 pm
My husband and I went here for our 1st anniversary and had looked forward to celebrating other round numbers with the Ritz. Very sad.
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The Dining Room at the Ritz, among many others, closing | Omnivore Atlanta
September 11th, 2009
4:52 pm
[...] week the news came that chef Arnaud Berthelier would be leaving the Ritz at the beginning of October. Today, we learned that the Dining Room will not continue to operate after Berthelier leaves. Its [...]
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Been there, done that
September 11th, 2009
4:52 pm
Frankly, the food was always an “adventure”, and not necessarily a good one at that. I took a client years ago and the only thing they were serving that evening was venison or rabbit. “Great”, I thought, all we can have tonight is Bambi or Thumper. I didn’t really think of that as “fine dining” but rather what one could get any night of the week as roadkill in middle Georgia. Just calling something with a fancy name doesn’t change the fact that you might just be getting ready to eat possum. Yum.
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Susan Sloan
September 11th, 2009
4:52 pm
Bye bye to a most pretentious restaurant!
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Joe Blow
September 11th, 2009
4:59 pm
My wife and I were going to celebrate our anniversary there. However we decided to pay our mortgage and utility bills instead of blowing hundreds of dollars on a stinking dinner. Are you people stupid or just arrogant beyond belief? Get a grip and realize what is important in life. Young American men and women are being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and you are sad you won’t be able to spend $500 for a dinner anymore! Who gives a ratsass? You make me sick! God Bless America!!!!
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bongo
September 11th, 2009
5:00 pm
Let’s just hope he doesn’t get any help with the food from No Mas!.
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Marisa
September 11th, 2009
5:01 pm
My heart breaks to hear this. I had the pleasure to have dinner there a few years back with my parents and it was an amazing experience. I’m sadden to hear this.
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Kevrock/Smarty Jones
September 11th, 2009
5:05 pm
Okay bloggers who is now going to bitch at Meredith for this???
Thanks Mrs Meredith now I can renew my reservations!!
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Norcross
September 11th, 2009
5:05 pm
This was actually reported by a user comment on the Ritz-Carlton Dining Room closure story. AJC gets scooped by a reader (by 2 minutes)!
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TuT
September 11th, 2009
5:07 pm
I had the pleasure of having Fathers Day brunch there will always remember…… Awesome food and ambience.
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Atlanta
September 11th, 2009
5:15 pm
Well, I work in the same building as the restaurant and heard it here first. So, kudos
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HoJo
September 11th, 2009
5:15 pm
To all of you classless, rednecks,peons and racists…you are all beneath contempt. To try and defame the best restaturant this city has, OR WILL ever know, just shows what small minded and petty insects you are. The Ritz is the ONLY hotel chain that still treats their customers with respect and tries to always make their stay memorable. It is not for everyone. If you are worrying every dollar you are going to spend, you really don’t belong there because its not about that. THey are there to provide the extraordinary and that is what they do better than anybody else.
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Carlos
September 11th, 2009
5:16 pm
Joe Blow, You lost me…What does the war in Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with the closing of a one of the finest restaurants in the US?
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Jeffrey
September 11th, 2009
5:16 pm
I think Table Talk should do a story about why Joel lost their liquor license in the first place. Seems odd to me a restaurant of that stature (at least historical stature) would allow their license to expire.
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Not John Kessler
September 11th, 2009
5:21 pm
A dining room for the supercilious disappears.
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Katharine
September 11th, 2009
5:26 pm
This news saddens me greatly. I remember taking my parents there. I was in my first job in the city, out on my own as an adult, and wanted to thank them for their help in leaving the nest. It was one of the most remarkable meals I’ve ever had in my life — Chef Guenter Seeger was cooking there in those days. The service was impeccable.
Guenter Seeger is gone. Joel Antunes is gone. Michael Tuohy is gone. Sotohiro Kosugi is gone. Now this. I can’t help feeling like Atlanta is losing its top tier of restaurants. We still have a few, but the exodus is depressing.
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HoodWinked
September 11th, 2009
5:31 pm
I was going to add a wise-azz comment but rollergirl’s was the best, so I’ll just second what she said.
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Joe Blow
September 11th, 2009
5:34 pm
Carlos…its called sarcasm. All these pretentious jackasses on here whining about losing the opportunity to pay $500 for a meal is going to ruin their lives. Who gives a flying crap if this restaurant closes? Well except the myopic pinheads who are whining on here. Just put things in perspective people.
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The Foodie
September 11th, 2009
5:57 pm
I have eaten at the DR many times over the years and enjoyed most of those meals but the stiffness of the staff has always been a downer. I do remember a wine group party we had there 4 or 5 years ago that was fantastic. Ultimately, the changing landscape for fine dining in Atlanta will continue and more restaurants will get the ax. The economy along with the natural progression of fine dining foodies will force high end restaurants to change or face similar scenarios. I have eaton at many Michelin one, two and three star restaurants in France (France has 620, US has Zero) and they all blow the Dining Room at the Ritz away! Maybe the end of this establishment is really no surprise. The truth is that Mother Ritz got tired of subsidizing her Atlanta flagship.
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Dino
September 11th, 2009
6:03 pm
I took my wife and daughter there back in 2004 for burnch and had a wonderful time. It is sad to see them have to close. Sign of the times I guess.
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ATL dawg, ya dig.
September 11th, 2009
6:14 pm
Best mojito is at Wild Mangoes in San Pedro, Belize. You can belize dat. Don’t go to Manhattan Cafe high…all that insecurity and bitterness will chill your high. I like bulleit with a splash of water and my hot chick in my lap to light my cigar. you can belize dat, too.
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Flo-Ri-Duh!
September 11th, 2009
6:26 pm
I am not going to eat any place where Camel Jockeys rake in money from U.S. citizens they despise.
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Tulsa A Dawg
September 11th, 2009
6:38 pm
I got drunk as hell one time before the peach bowl. Those were the days. The staff helped me to my car and drove to the Georgia dome. Damn those were the days.
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Sadtoseeitthisway
September 11th, 2009
6:38 pm
There`s not enough people with the deep pockets out there to support these kinds of places. Well, there are you say? Well, they don`t want to mingle with the others this and other establishments gladly welcome in an attempt to generate the income to cover the bottom line. There`s plenty of people living within 5-10 miles of here and plenty of hotel guests to make a classy place like this a profitable operation. However. Look across the street at the two malls who`s target clientel is not there. Where are they? They haven`t been coming for years. They still live close by, but not many are frequent customers. Their spending and entertainment dollars go elsewhere. If you live and or work in the Buckhead/Lenox environment, YOU KNOW what I mean.
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Elizabeth
September 11th, 2009
6:39 pm
I 100% agree with Rollergirl!
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Diane Cox
September 11th, 2009
6:43 pm
Why walk past a bunch of druggies with guns (with no gun permits) to go to spend a megafortune in a dining room? With all the taxes that the white people have to pay, who’s got money to spend for an overpriced meal?
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RayLewis
September 11th, 2009
6:45 pm
Me and my crew rolled up into dis place and had aks dem boyz for some teriyaki wings and dem peeps looked at us like we wuz wack. So we rolled out in the Ben-Z and shot some mutha f****ers!
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David Milton
September 11th, 2009
6:50 pm
Atlanta is a code word at this point…
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A Realist
September 11th, 2009
6:53 pm
I’ve gone to the Ritz in Buckhead for dinner several times in the past for special occasions and always had a great experience. Hopefully the employees will quickly be able to find work someplace else.
For those of you that are dogging Atlanta, SIMPLY LEAVE!!!! You won’t be missed.
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RK
September 11th, 2009
6:57 pm
They posted it via facebook yesterday. Good luck getting in tonight — they have no free tables until 9!
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L
September 11th, 2009
7:03 pm
How could you not mention Savor Specialty Foods? They’re carrying H&F breads now and their deli and cheese cases rock!
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M.S.
September 11th, 2009
7:08 pm
This is a great loss to the Atlanta dining community. The Dining Room is the example and far above what all other “fine dining” establishments in and around Atlanta can only dream of being. Only in my mid 30’s but the service from Claude overseeing the room to Charles giving the best table service we’ve ever had, our yearly anniversary dinner will never be the same somewhere else. We have tried other restaurants that are supposed to be on the same level, but none live up to the extraordinary menu, service, pampering and refinement that the Dining Room posesses. You will be missed greatly.
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Lynette
September 11th, 2009
7:39 pm
Bongo, I was thinking the same thing….great minds think alike.
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Thurston Howell III
September 11th, 2009
8:07 pm
Egads….Lovie and I used to eat dinner there regularly and then I would bang her while the busboy watched. He used to make a joke about me hiding the Beef Wellington. After dinner we would go to the club where only the “right color” people were permitted. We would sip martinis and then I would bang Lovie behind the bar. Then again, all you undesirables would not understand what we rich people are talking about.
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blazerdawg
September 11th, 2009
8:40 pm
So sad…wonderful place….best wishes to the staff they were wonderful.
Great post CJKatly @ 3:56.
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Georgia Peach
September 11th, 2009
8:53 pm
Mammy’s Shanty – I didn’t think anyone else remembered!
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Celia Kennedy
September 11th, 2009
9:25 pm
The only thing constant is change, yet there is a deep yearning for all things 80s when the RCB is facing its final days. How we yearn for Atlanta royalty whose last names are Portman, Cox-Chambers, Cousins, Laudermilk, etc. to carry the torch.
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Noah
September 11th, 2009
10:01 pm
Agree with others regarding $800 for a meal. Everyone is different but I am in the crowd that wouldn’t even think about spending that much, even if I could without thinking twice. You can find many special places with great food and service for hundreds less. A higher price does not always equal better.
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AtlantaGal
September 11th, 2009
10:22 pm
Kip – Great question. There are only 11 other Mobil 5-star restaurants in the US. The Dining Room was the only one in GA.
As for the dispute between eater and Lilburn – you’re both wrong. Each employee is allowed $2000 per hotel guest to correct any “problems”. This does not apply to restaurant-only guests.
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Mike D
September 11th, 2009
10:50 pm
I use to pee in the soup (pee in a flask in the bathroom and dump it in when the chefs weren’t looking) when I worked there in the late 80’s. My friend would flick boogers into the salad. During our breaks we would watch the customers dine on our “love” offerings. God help you if you ever ordered anything with a sauce on it.
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Sally Segur
September 11th, 2009
11:09 pm
I have a friend who lives in New York City. He used to come to Atlanta for the Home Builders Show in March and he would take me to dinner anywhere I wanted to go. One year we went to the Dining Room at the Ritz in Buckhead. I still think of that evening as one of the most wonderful ever. The food was great and the service superb. There will never be another Dining Room. I am glad I had the opportunity to experience it.
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Bruno Menard
September 11th, 2009
11:10 pm
there are things like this you dont want to read ,i have a mix feeling about this i am sad to see this restaurant closing down ,that certainly some of my very good friends will lose there jobs,
but i also remember the amazing four years i spent as a chef at the dining room ,(meredith was may be not aware there was a chef between Joel and Arnauld,!) i want to remember the pride and joy i had to work with the fantastic team of the restaurant ,i want to remember all the people who came over the years to ask their loved one “do you want to marry me ” because it was the ultimate place in town to do so ,to remember all those people i had the privilege to share a moment of there life ,celebrating any occasion at this fabulous restaurant ,
This restaurant is one of the only restaurant in Amecica who kept the 5 mobil stars and 5 AAA diamonds for so many years ,it is THE only restaurant in America who had 4 chefs in a row with those awards, and i am very proud to be one of those
If i had not worked at the dining room those four year i definitely ,not be a 3 michelin stars chef today here in Tokyo ,i spent in Atlanta and at the dining room some of the best years of my life,
i worked at that time with the finest professional in this business, true and genuine ladies and gentlemen. my dear friends i wish you all the best ,you gave so much to every one.
Cheers
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Katharine
September 11th, 2009
11:14 pm
The Foodie: You are incorrect in stating that the US has no Michelin three star restaurants. In 2009, there are six:
* Four in New York (Jean-Georges, Le Bernardin, Masa, and Per Se)
* One in the San Francisco area (The French Laundry)
* One in Las Vegas (Joel Robuchon)
Source:
http://www.michelinguide.com/us/cities.html
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Melia
September 11th, 2009
11:30 pm
Wow, if so many people ate there and loved it then why are they closing? I am sorry to see anything close but the truth is that we can’t afford to go to many of these places on a regular basis.
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Nick G
September 11th, 2009
11:31 pm
Stayed at the Ritz-Carlton Buckhead for my wife and my first wedding anniversary in the mid-90’s. We both enjoyed Sunday brunch at the restaurant on the main floor much more than our Saturday night dinner at the Dining Room. Since then I’ve had much better meals at other local places that seem to just try harder to please rather than resting on their laurels as the Dining Room seemed to be doing. So many nice hotels and restaurants have opened in Buckhead since 1995 that it’s going to be hard to miss the DR.
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WK
September 12th, 2009
12:07 am
How in the world could a restaurant closing be about Race. I am truly sorry for the lost of a great institution and the lost of jobs. However, we are in hard times people are losing jobs, pay cuts and loosing money in a market thats volatile. We should feel sorry for the loose of jobs and for some a way of life. Its not about race or Atlanta. This city will evolve and continue to grow and change. Most importantly be diverse in a still very much racist world. Most of your comments are so sad. To the RC Dining room I wish you guys the best.
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Apingal
September 12th, 2009
1:00 am
Truly a classic in Atlanta. I remember my in-laws taking my husband and I there to celebrate our anniversary. They insisted on taking my son who was about 7 then. Like every child who goes to the rest room many times, they kept escorting him to the rest room, refolded his napkin many times over. He was exceptionally impressed when the servers stood around the table to reveal under the famous domed plate covers all at one time. One, two, three, wow a burger and fries! (they got it from another place in the restaurant to accomodate him)
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Mike Vick
September 12th, 2009
1:38 am
One time after one of my pit bulls had won me about $20K, me and my homeboy A.I. went to this great restaurant to celebrate. They almost didn’t let me in because I still had quite a bit of blood on my sleeves, but one mention of the Rev. Al got us seated with no wait.
We started with a big order of chicken wings. They were prepared just right, and the ranch to dip them in was even better than the ranch dressing at O’Charley’s! The crunchy celery was also most impressive! For our next course, we ordered the house salad with extra, extra ranch dressing. Again, a delightful presentation, as the chef was quick to honor our request to top the salad with ranch-battered fried popcorn chicken pieces. Then, after much deliberation and consideration of the six or so specials presented by Harry, our flamboyantly gay waiter, we both decided on the Fried Chicken ala Ranch, which was essentially a huge portion of ranch-battered fried chicken, with extra, extra ranch dressing on the side, served with a huge portion of french fries and ranch dressing. What a meal it was, one I will never forget! We knew the Dining Room was expensive coming in, and were well aware that the food here was more expensive than at Applebee’s Neighbor Bar and Grill in East Point, where we usually eat. But it was a surprise when the bill arrived and it was $972.57! Although in fairness, I did not realize that the grape soda refills were NOT free. So I picked up the check, left Harry a much-deserved five dollar tip, the biggest gratuity I have ever forked out, and left with a smile on my face. I had intended to take Viper, my winning pit bull from earlier in the night, a nice “doggy bag” of some fried chicken scraps as a reward from killing Daisy, Clinton Portis’ pit bull. But my brother Marcus called me during the main course and said Viper had up and died from the deep gashes he had suffered in his fight with Daisy before he finished her off. So, thanks Dining Room. I’m really sad to see you close and will never forget your incredible ranch-battered fried chicken that I celebrated a “big win” with back in 2005! Holla!
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Without a job...
September 12th, 2009
2:03 am
The dining room is a special place. It isn’t a place that ordinary people would goto on a daily basis and I don’t think that is what it’s meant to be. It’s an experience (was…) and I am very proud to be apart of it. I’ll be on the list of people who will be without a job after October 1st. It’s hard reading ignorant comments on here of people saying things like “good riddance”. If you’ve never been, then why comment? It doesn’t cost “800″ dollars for 2 people either. That is rediculous… Something that many people probaby don’t understand is that just about every cook, or front of the house person for that matter, moved to Atlanta JUST to work at the dining room. It’s a terrible thing that this is happening. I don’t see how it envolves the war in Iraq?
I just want to clarify that the HOTEL is NOT closing. Only the dining room is.
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Dave The Wave
September 12th, 2009
3:17 am
I took my wife there for dinner for our anniversary back when Guenter Seeger was running the joint. I excused myself to visit the men’s room while we were on hold for our entree. When I came back, my wife had been served but my meal had been “Returned to the Kitchen Because You Were Not Here When It Was Served At It’s Peak Moment Of Perfection and That Would Only Ruin Your Experience.” I ordered a replacement but “I’m Sorry Sir, That Was The Last One” set me up for dessert while my wife ate alone. What a dump. Whoopie was right …
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Carl
September 12th, 2009
4:06 am
Umm-hmm…I reckon I liked them french fried pertaters they had there…umm-hmm. I also took a likin’ to their mustard buscuits,,,umm-hmm. If I had time to study on it, I’d go with their potted meat and sodie crackers though. Umm-hmmm.
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Lindsay Lohan
September 12th, 2009
4:17 am
I lost my virginity there in one of the booths while on a 3-day coke binge!
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Sadtoseeitthisway
September 12th, 2009
4:22 am
I sure hope the fast moving, hard working Miller Beer man can come by and recover all the unused High Life.
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RichMan
September 12th, 2009
7:21 am
They should have raised their prices a lot higher to keep more revenue coming in, so they could stay in business. People that go there can afford to pay a lot more!
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An Observer
September 12th, 2009
7:28 am
WK, if you read the comments on ANY article in the AJC, they always get around to race!
Sad indeed that an article about the closing of a restaurant generates this babble. Is there no one at the AJC with the fortitude to moderate these comments and keep them on subject?
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Jimmy Barron
September 12th, 2009
7:50 am
This is very sad indeed. I took Barnes and Lisa to dinner once and it was fabulous. It was the best $1,700 I ever spent. At those prices I just couldn’t afford to invite Leslie and Crash. Sad to say I’m broke now and eat most my meals at either Huddle House or QT.
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Reality
September 12th, 2009
8:18 am
Steve In Buford, that McDonald’s closed on New Year’s Day. It’s history, Pal.
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KAT
September 12th, 2009
8:35 am
sounds like they need a DOLLAR MENU….
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Paula Thompson
September 12th, 2009
9:06 am
It was always a tradition for my grandmother to treat us somewhere fancy in Atlanta. This was something that she liked to do, I can remember my very first trip to the Ritz Carlton in Detail even though it was almost 20 years ago. I was only 5 years old at the time. I had recently graduated from modeling and social graces class. I was so proud to be able to use my “new manners”. When asked what I wanted for lunch, I replied : ” Peanut Butter and Jelly, ” as any five year old would do. I did not get to eat Peanut Butter and Jelly that trip, but I did get a gourmet pizza and it was delicious. I also got a rasberry torte with chocolate sauce that was in the shape of a heart. Which by in far was the most fancy thing that I had ever seen. Going to the Ritz Carlton was a very neat experience for me and I wish all of the employees the best of luck!
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Bikerron1
September 12th, 2009
9:12 am
Let’s hope it’s the Varsity that’s the replacement. Also the W/H would work out well to. This could give some of us that are job-hunting,another place to look for work.
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Voice of Reason #1
September 12th, 2009
9:27 am
It was a nice place…to look at. But I remember the first time I went there; I treated an out-of-town guest. After we got through eating those little medallions of meat, two springs of asparagus (or whatever), etc., and I’d paid $300.00 (not that my stomach noticed), we left and went to another restaurant, so we could get a real plate of food and EAT!
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Voice of Reason #1
September 12th, 2009
9:33 am
sprigs.
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RestaurantZoom
September 12th, 2009
9:39 am
Closing after a quarter century of fine service. What a shame and great loss for the community.
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Carlos
September 12th, 2009
9:45 am
Bruno Menard, It was great hearing from you. You are indeed, by far the best chef in the planet! Your fusion cuisine is unparallel! Although the service remained the same after you left, the culinary experience was not the same. I hope one of this days you decide to come back to the ATL! We miss you Bruno.
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CarpetBagger
September 12th, 2009
10:14 am
I love the comments! The ATL… “The all about me town.” This TOWN praises, discusses and writes about mediocrity like there is no tomorrow. What a joke.
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Jaye
September 12th, 2009
10:23 am
Out of favor … or is it really the economy?
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Native
September 12th, 2009
11:04 am
For those that think Atlanta is not Ghetto, where have you been? If thats who the city “markets” towards and wants to become, then let the inhabitants of the Ghetto have it. The rest of us will spend our $$ in the suburbs.
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Deirdre
September 12th, 2009
11:48 am
In 2001, my husband and I took my mom, dad and our 2 kids to The Dining Room to celebrate my mother’s 80th birthday. It was a fabulous evening. My boys, now 25 and 28, still talk about the experience as one of those watershed moments in their teens. Both are determined to do well in life in order to have the ability to enjoy that kind of service and that kind of food again.
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Mike Vick
September 12th, 2009
12:44 pm
They have outstanding ranch-battered fried chicken. Go Eagles!
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Michael Brown
September 12th, 2009
12:45 pm
A community gets what it deserves.
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Bobby Brown
September 12th, 2009
12:46 pm
I ate there one night, but I was too high on drugs to remember what I had or if what I had was was any good. Whitney was smoking crack, so she stayed in the car and hit the pipe the whole time.
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Ted Turner
September 12th, 2009
12:47 pm
Do any white people still live in Atlanta?
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Tyree
September 12th, 2009
1:40 pm
Respectfully submit, I like the coziness of the original Alon. However, it can become too cozy, actually cramped inside at peak times, not to mention the limited parking. The large chunk chocolate chip pecan cookies somehow always go home with me no matter what the reason for the trip. Every time.
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rc
September 12th, 2009
2:24 pm
The Dining Room is where I learned the difference between “going out to eat” and “fine dining”. I am very sad to hear that it is closing.
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Paris Hilton
September 12th, 2009
5:29 pm
It was Hot! I snuck in one night with Nicole and we had two asparagus sprigs and a sparkling water. So Hot! And only $650 each! It’s Hot!
We are desperate to come back and see if Ernesto the So Gay Waiter is still there. He’s Hot!
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Paula Abdul
September 12th, 2009
5:33 pm
I think I ate there one time but I reallly can’t remember but I can ramble on about it for awhile except I don’t really remember if I ate there but it was really good and I think I ate there.
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reviewer
September 12th, 2009
5:38 pm
I dined one time at the RC. The food was slow in being delivered, was less than warm when it finally did arrive, and rather bland in taste. Of course this was 20 years ago. I never bothered to dine again.
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atlanta
September 12th, 2009
5:52 pm
grow up all you racist ass people
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El Paso
September 12th, 2009
9:24 pm
Best Margarita in the ATL – Nuevo Laredo – order a Texas frozen or on the rocks
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Carol
September 12th, 2009
10:25 pm
I agree with the caipirinha….the BEST especially when made with Leblon!!!
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September 12th, 2009
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BUZZER
September 12th, 2009
10:45 pm
Nya Nya ne Nya Nya!!! I was at the LRB (License Review Board) on another matter the other night and lo and behold Chef Antunes appeared with his legal counsel to explain to the board why Joel had gone without a license for 2 years! He was very apologetic to the members of the board and one of the board members said what a great restaurant Joel’s was and that it was truly one of Atlanta’s best. In the end the board recommended a heavy fine and warned Chef Antunes not to err again! I believe the board minutes are available to the public on one of the City’s websites, but I might be wrong. The board meeting was on September 8th.
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O. J. Simpson
September 13th, 2009
12:35 am
I slit an old girlfriend’s throat in that restaurant when she flirted with the busboy! Then I killed his ass too! Then I went and played a round of golf to unwind.
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mt
September 13th, 2009
12:43 am
for those of you who think it was to expensive or the food wasn’t good it probably not the right place for you to go eat. I’m sorry atlanta but to let these high end places go is going to affect the dining in this city for years to come. To answer someone’s comment earlier there was a $69 3-coarse menu last summer and nobody new about it I don’t think that’s the people who are losing there jobs fault which is sad and the to close it is worse than not promoting it. Try and get a world class dining expirence for that kind of money. Just face it as the general american public growing up on microwave pizza even though now it is organic it is still microwave pizza, how could you even hope to understand the food that was on the plates in front of you in this restaraunt.. Get some culture, or at least try to appreciate someone who is trying to give you some..
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Tim B
September 13th, 2009
2:22 am
I will definitely never forget the Dining Room. It has been my destination for my birthday and anniversary dinner for years and so sad to know that we can’t celebrate our anniversary this year and in the future.
For those absurd comment and fake comments… you guys are just jealous that you never experience the whole concept & the most wonderful service. Talking about $500 for dinner?? Pleaseeee we went to the DR many times and our bills never that expensive. Whether if we dine at Bachanallia, Craft, Joel, etc.. they’re about the same price anyway.
I am glad I had the opportunity to experience it & best wishes to all the staff.
Looking forward to see you guys next friday for my last DR experience
or maybe We will come twice for Oct 1st finale!!
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dan
September 13th, 2009
2:57 am
Definitely will never go back to Joel anymore. Definitely not a true french since Chef Joel left. Pizza in the menu? pleaseee..
It took me forever to get the server attention for my cocktail order. My bloody marry was crappy (I asked and it came from the pre-mix bottle), overpriced wine with snobby somellier, and we waited so long to get our food (on top of our overcooked wine, and my fishy seabass) very disappointed!!
I rather go to Aria….
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Becky
September 13th, 2009
7:01 am
I too vote for the caipirinha! I think Pura Vida serves them….
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Jason
September 13th, 2009
8:17 am
We’re in tough economic times people. I find the best mojito, Manhatten, and margarita are all avilable in one place–my house.
That’s right, I can make gallons of superior mojito for the cost of one night at any of these bars. It’s going to be some white rum, mulled mint from the farmer’s market, a little simple syrup, and probably a splash of soda water for fizz.
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i read the paper
September 13th, 2009
10:48 am
Workingmom- before you’re so quick to criticize maybe you should check Friday’s updates, where it IS pointed out that Joel is once again serving alcohol.
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Georgyboy
September 13th, 2009
11:57 am
Wait, wait Buzzer … are you telling me that “Chef Anthunes” (Joel Anthunes himself) flew over from London where he is working now to “apologize” about the license situation to the LRB? Hmmm, moreover he and the “Joel” restaurant company didn’t exactly parted ways amicably, so I doubt it he was he who showed up at the hearing. It may have been the new chef Cyril.
The explanation for losing the license is pretty straightforward: Joel Anthunes was on the license, he left the restaurant in 2007 to go to NY (Oak Room) and someone in the Joel’s “legalites” forgot to notify the LRB and they lost the license.
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KennesawDave
September 13th, 2009
12:18 pm
Atlanta Guy: I agree with you about La Grotta. My family and I have been going there for 20 years for special occasions and every time was always a great experience. And much like any fine dining establishment if you didn’t see anything that just jumped out at you on the menu they would do a made-to-order dish if you asked.
As to my memories of the Ritz. I can’t say I ever had dinner there. However, when I was a teenager and had a facination with tea, my mom took me for tea at the Ritz around the holidays. It was an experience I will remembr for all my life. It was just the 2 of us and we had the usual acompaniments of scones, tarts, sugar cubes, ect. There was a piano playing in the background and very warm fire buring. Both mad for an ideal atmosphere. I’ve often told my mom that we should do that again sometime. If we don’t though, I will make sure to take my child/children for that experience.
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Mikel Toris
September 13th, 2009
1:20 pm
@ AJC and Meredith Ford, if you cant moderate your own fking forum perhaps you should remove the comment section. At this point all you are doing is providing a forum for racists and internet trolls to express their social retardation.
GET A CLUE!
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BUZZER
September 13th, 2009
2:02 pm
Nope, it was him for sure. I remember seeing him at the restaurant two years ago. The new chef Cyril Hoalata is recognizable from the television and print articles he has done. It has to be that Joel is still tied to this restaurant, otherwise why would he appear???
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Georgyboy
September 13th, 2009
3:54 pm
OK, Buzzer, I believe you now. Maybe, Joel came to help his buddy Cyril out. In any event, I am afraid that this place is doomed. I would be surprised if it stays open much longer. Too bad, I had some great lunches and dinners there.
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BUZZER
September 13th, 2009
4:06 pm
I think Atlanta as a foodie town is doomed! What we should expect is for all the fine restaurants such as Joel, Bacchanalia, BLT, Sean Doherty to close and in their place maybe a few Burger Kings, Chic-Fil-A’s, and a Varsity or two. Heck BK all ready has a mean “Angus Burger” which would qualify it to 95% of Atlanta as fine dining. It would be fitting for Atlanta to step back in time and not move forward.
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Kunta Kinte
September 13th, 2009
5:09 pm
Yo Mikel…Wattup playa! I be wit you on dis bruh! Dem peoples dat be comin on dis here bode needs to 86 dis racial playa hatin! You know what I’m sayin? I be offensive by all dis frontin be goin on rite here on dis bode. Holla at a brutha!!!
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Jake
September 13th, 2009
5:21 pm
Eat Shi7 you retard.
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Kunta Kinte
September 13th, 2009
5:44 pm
Holla at a brutha!!! By the way, why can’t we black people speak English properly like all other human beings? Are we genetically incapable (not intelligent enough) or are we just too lazy? Hmmm.
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Oprah Winfrey
September 13th, 2009
5:49 pm
I actually can’t afford the place. I’d rather give the money to charity. It’s just food. How expensive does it have to get?
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Idigbo Nargusta
September 13th, 2009
6:10 pm
“with travel restrictions lifted, why not try the motherland version of cuban food?”
The travel restrictions were only lifted for Cuban-Americans, not the rest of us. And when I visited Cuba (legally) a couple of years ago, the Cuban sandwiches there were terrible, because of the lack of good quality ingredients.
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Boricuazo !
September 14th, 2009
11:16 am
Wraps in Kennesaw ! Dont expect much customer sevice o rather waitress service ,but the food has an authentic puertorican flavor.The food is well presented when service and the price is right !
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Southern NewYoriquena
September 14th, 2009
12:19 pm
Pasteles with some pasteles and a side of pasteles! Pasteles (for the uninitiated) are like tamales but MUCH more flavorful. Goya sells a prepared version (Um, not my favorite) but the best pasteles come wrapped in banana leaves with an outer wrap of freezer paper and tied with string. Boil ‘em for an hour and enjoy with a touch of pique.
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ChefsWorld
September 14th, 2009
12:50 pm
Always sad to have a kitchen close. Any ideas why, sounded popular
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jazzyj
September 14th, 2009
12:59 pm
If there is a doubt regarding all of the really positive comments, my suggestion for the doubt-ters is to try these cupcakes out for yourselves…these things are awesome…and once you try them, I’ll bet you will join the parade of satisfied customers.
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ziza
September 14th, 2009
1:25 pm
my dad once dated a borinquena who was marvelous and she made delicious picadillo! 40 years later i still miss her and her picadillo! sabrosa!
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Ricardo
September 14th, 2009
1:34 pm
bistec encebollado, arroz blanco, habichuelas colora’s y amarillos! what else!
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Emeril Lagasse
September 14th, 2009
1:50 pm
The Dining Room closed because the food was subpar. The service had slipped considerably, too. I am the only one who could have salvaged this once-proud kitchen. Now, it reminds me of The Spaghetti Warehouse . Recently, I had a meal with several of my chef friends at The Dining Room and I was frankly embarrassed. The food was mediocre and the service was not much better. I offered to come in and save the place, but they were not willing to meet my price. So, they lose and Atlanta loses! I tried!
Bon Appetite! I love you Atlantans!
Emeril Lagasse
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La'Craphonso Smith Jr.
September 14th, 2009
1:55 pm
Yo Emeril. What’s so bad about da Spagetti Wearhouse? You a hata you sorry ass fat-boy! What happened to your restarant that wuz here in the ATL. That sh**ty ass place closed, ain’t it? Quit dissin’ the Spagetti Waerhouse hata!
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Tavo
September 14th, 2009
2:23 pm
Have you try Tostones at Pura Vida…..?? And that mofongo is awesome
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Ivan
September 14th, 2009
3:04 pm
What the heck am I doing in Atlanta? Need to go back to my island and enjoy life again.
Mi Pilon is good with a mix of dominican.
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Randy Haddock
September 14th, 2009
3:49 pm
I like everything but my absolute favorite is arroz con gandules!
Great, now I’m mega hungry!
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Annie Toro
September 14th, 2009
3:59 pm
Pinon (line over first “n”). It’s a lot like a lasangna but fried, ripe plantains substitute the pasta. The sweetness of the plantains with the saltiness of the beef, ah, just planly heavenly.
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Horrace
September 14th, 2009
4:00 pm
Taco Bell
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atlanta sports fan
September 14th, 2009
4:13 pm
Anybody know where in Atl that you can but Medallia
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September 14th, 2009
8:56 pm
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Ivanwho?
September 14th, 2009
8:58 pm
Menudo? Carnitas? La Lengua? Tortas? How authentic is authentic for a taqueria?
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a worker bee
September 15th, 2009
11:43 am
Great Wraps in Kennesaw has fantastic food.
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Stan
September 15th, 2009
2:34 pm
Even though I have no children, this is something I am in favor of. It seems like such a no-brainer to put into practice the good eating habits we all know we follow while the kids are in school. Plus it is very hypocritical for the Government to say that we need to follow this food guideline then feed kids in school what they feed them!
There is no way that the school lunch is healthy and balanced meal. I remember what kind of crap I had to eat when I went to school.
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Teacher
September 15th, 2009
3:19 pm
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ant banks
September 15th, 2009
3:21 pm
STAN,
in addition to improving the lunch menu, they need to bring recess back!! a lot of the kids are overweight borderline obese due to inactivity and poor eatin’ habits.
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ant banks
September 15th, 2009
3:25 pm
my kid’s school had pizza and fries for lunch!!! it had to be over 1000 calories for that…
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Julie
September 15th, 2009
3:26 pm
Why is it the government’s responsibility to feed school children? Making a sandwich and adding a piece of fruit or carrot sticks is not that difficult. If parents are really concerned about what their child is eating let them send lunch with their child.
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reservoirDAWG
September 15th, 2009
3:34 pm
I was lucky. My mom stayed at home growing up and would make my brother and I lunch while we ate breakfast. Something needs to be done about lunch in public schools. I wouldn’t feed that to my dogs.
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CC
September 15th, 2009
3:47 pm
Julie, you are naive. While I assume that you have enough money, time, knowledge and energy to put together a lunch every day, other parents may not. We live in a nice area (East Cobb) and I make lunch almost every day, but many of my kids’ friends buy lunch. Some parents either don’t have time or money to make a healthy lunch every day, and they rely on the school to provide that. The point of this story is that the school promotes that they provide a healthy lunch every day, and they really don’t.
Study after study, example after example shows that when kids (and adults) eat healthy foods, they are smarter, able to pay attention better, get into less trouble (i.e. less violent), and of course healthier. If everyone could be healthier, we’d all be better as a society and what better time to start this than in childhood? The sad thing is that some parents are lazy and permissive, and throw fits whenever someone tries to change things for the better.
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Heard it all before
September 15th, 2009
3:53 pm
Hormone-free milk and organic strawberries. Nothing like taking an inherently sensible idea like improving the nutritional quality of school lunches and letting someone from the idiot fringe lead the charge.
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KStrate
September 15th, 2009
3:55 pm
I think this is a wonderful initiative, Meridith. So many schools around the nation and in the Metro Atlanta Area have free or reduced lunch for the majority of their kids. So, while some moms think the government shouldn’t worry, other moms send their children to school knowing they’ll at least have something to eat for breakfast and lunch. These are the parents who are working 2-3 jobs just to provide the minimum for their children, and I think their kids deserve vegetables just as much as the kid whose mom packs it for them.
Yes, my mom packed my lunch almost every day until the end of high school. You know what happened freshman year of high school when I decided I wanted to eat from the cafeteria? I gained 20 pounds because of the crap they were serving (and I probably didn’t even realize what I was eating). I think it would benefit so many people if we did a farms to cafeteria initiative in Georgia. Yes, it would cost the schools more money to fix (energy, gas, etc.) and yes, it would make Lunchlady Linda do a little more than warm things up, but wouldn’t it also fill bellies better and keep them more alert? Instead of having a Coke and a bag of chips for lunch, what about some protein-packed grilled chicken and summer vegetables? Maybe even a baked potato?
I think this will be a long, hard fight, but if this lady has already done it in other cities, she can certainly do it here. Keep us updated, Meridith.
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niquoo
September 15th, 2009
3:58 pm
Why does the government have to feed your effing kids?
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Jill Williams
September 15th, 2009
3:59 pm
Not only does it discussed me what our children our eating at school it saddens me to know that if a child doesn’t have thier lunch money they can not have what the other kids are eating…they get thrown a peanut butter sandwich instead. Convicted Felons eat for free on our dime better than our children do.
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Tyler Pike
September 15th, 2009
4:04 pm
What is this, amateur hour? I can just look at that sandwich and smoker and tell you flat out; that BBQ doesn’t hold a snowball’s chance in hell against my daddy’s BBQ. I bet the new chef doesn’t even make the sauce…. No ‘chef’ can ever cook BBQ right, BBQ is best done by someone who calls themself a ‘cook’.
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"W"
September 15th, 2009
4:17 pm
NIQUOO,
that is the million dollar question!! that is the problem that i have with most democrats. they expect the govt. to feed their kids, educate their kids, babysit their kids via after school care. why don’t these parents think about all of these consequences when they are leavin’ the club with the stranger because he bought you two drinks and go home and have babies.
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"W"
September 15th, 2009
4:19 pm
JILL,
what happens when you walk in wendy’s or mcdonald’s without money? they don’t even through you an effin’ pbj. be glad that the school do that!!
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Angela
September 15th, 2009
4:34 pm
You go Ann. This is a powerfully important issue. Big business and lobbyists are interfering with the right of children to eat a nutritional meal. To those of you asking the question about why should the government provide lunch, you clearly don’t have children or a clue. Remember, they are required to go to school. Are you suggesting they not be fed between 8:30a and 3:00p? I’m not suggesting the schools be parents. But a little common sense should prevail. Lunch should be lunch, not chips, cookies, reprocessed, high calorie, high fat, low nutrition, LOW COST items. And yes hormone free and organic foods make sense. Kids don’t need any more exposure to pesticides, hormones, chemicals, etc., all used in food processing for one reason — to enhance the bottom line of the producer. I have three children and pack their lunches every day because I cannot let them eat what Aramark serves in our district. Believe it or not they serve a white bread hot dog bun, drizzled with 1.5 ounces of cheese product and a side of tomatoe sauce and call it an Italian Dunker. I’ve seen many children as young as 1st graders with only the “dunker” and a milk on their tray. How can a child perform in school, let alone thrive on a hot dog bun for lunch. No vegetables, no fruits and in many cases, not even opening the tomatoe sauce for dunking. Your tax dollars are paying for that. Wouldn’t you rather the money be used for a healthy lunch which leads to a healthy society? Packing lunch every morning is extra work but I know my kids are getting wholesome food and creating healthy eating habits that will last a lifetime, helping to lower healthcare costs for everyone including niquoo and Julie who interjected in a converation that clearly doesn’t concern them with their crass, ridiculous and off-base comments above. Unfortunately, some parents don’t have the means or opportunity do pack lunches for their children so niquoo and Julie get to buy them a white bread hot dog bun. Dig in.
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Angela
September 15th, 2009
4:38 pm
I would suggest Jill doesn’t regularly frequent McDonalds or Wendys because she’s making better food choices. We’ll see who becomes a drain on the government and the rest of us who make healthy choices for ourselves.
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hamsamich
September 15th, 2009
4:38 pm
If you can’t afford to bring money, they will give you lunch at a reduced rate that you can afford. If you repeatedly “Forget” to send money with your child because your $600/mo Tahoe payment is stretching your Child Support money thin, then they eat PB&J. (minus the J because that is bad for them)
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R. Davis
September 15th, 2009
4:44 pm
Some of your comments would be taken more seriously if they were correctly written and spelled – I’m wondering if any of you actually WENT to school, much less ate the lunches. The schools feed my children when they are there because I pay taxes. The law requires that a child attend school (unless rigorous home-school standards are met) and that required time includes at least one traditional meal time – lunch. Therefore, that lunch should at least be up to the standard of a jail meal. And due to peanut allergies, even the ol’ PB&J is on the endangered list. Let’s feed the kids real food… Why is it even a question?
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hamsamich
September 15th, 2009
4:50 pm
“W”
Be nice before she gets Discussed again.
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"W"
September 15th, 2009
4:54 pm
HAMSAMICH,
i just get sooo tired of people wanting the gov’t to take care of their every need. sure, maybe some of your needs like the military, police, etc. but now the kids?
i read an article about 2 weeks ago and it said that in the near future school were going to the year round schedule because so many kids go hungry during the summer!! WTF!! Not a year-round schedule to help kids compete globally, but so they do go hungry during the summer.
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Griffin
September 15th, 2009
5:04 pm
Go Ann. You are on the right track and doing it for the right reasons. Common sense always prevails in the end. There are many of us out here working on the grassroots level and are inspired by you.
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John Oliva
September 15th, 2009
5:05 pm
If you don’t like the food the cafeteria serves, then get out of bed early and make YOUR child a tasty, nutritious lunch, just like my mother did and she worked!! How lazy are you? Take personal responsibility and stop blaming the schools for feeding your kids.
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"W"
September 15th, 2009
5:08 pm
GRIFFIN,
are you suggesting that knowing how you will support your kids before you have them is not common sense? if your salary says that you can only afford to FEED on child at home and SCHOOL, why would you have 3 and hope the gov’t can bail you out.
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The Truth
September 15th, 2009
5:27 pm
@ Julie: The reason why the government has stepped in and provides school lunch goes back to decades old research that links good nutrition to educational performance. In short, kids that were malnourished experienced a reduced capacity to learn and perform well in the classroom. While many would question this “government responsibility”, the bottom line is that having an educated and literate population benefits all Americans and is one of the key factors that continues to separate the USA from developing countries. So, I’m all for improving the quality and nutrition of school lunches and I’m in favor of subsidizing the cost for those families that cannot afford to provide a healthy lunch for their school age children if for no other reason than for the sake of pure, unadulterated, dog-eat-dog capitalism in the present day global economy.
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News Daily
September 15th, 2009
5:28 pm
Great program. Schools don’t let elementary age children decide which subjects to study and they shouldn’t let them decide to eat chips and cookies for lunch, but that happens every day and is funded by tax dollars. Our tax dollars should be put to better use and nutritional food that can help kids thrive should be served. They learn about the food pyramid in class. Let’s have those food groups represented on their lunch trays as well. The fresher, healthier, more organic and sourced close to home the better. Keep up the good work.
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BehindEnemyLines
September 15th, 2009
5:51 pm
“I’d rather fight for hormone-free milk and organic strawberries”
As long as this whackadoo fights that fight in Boulder & stays far far away from me & mine, I’ll consider it her business. It’s occasionally cute to see what the lunatic fringe is doing but hopefully you won’t waste blog space with such drivel very often.
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ScienceTeacher671
September 15th, 2009
5:59 pm
Our high school offers 3-5 choices every day, and the line for pizza and fries is always the longest – in fact, the length of the line is usually inversely proportional to the nutritional quality of the meal.
I think schools could and should provide much healthier meals – and ought to get rid of all the sugary breakfast foods – but they claim the kids won’t eat healthy food.
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TN Volunteer
September 15th, 2009
6:14 pm
Some people are confusing downtown with Buckhead, others are mplying that certain remarks coded racism against blacks while making snarky comments about Arabs. And many are confusing the Café with the Dining Room. The latter is on the second floor, not on the ground floor. It is obvious that many who commented have never eaten there. To get to the point, yes, it was expensive. But even with the high prices, I find it hard to see how one could spend $800 on dinner for two there, unless one drank prodigious amounts of The DRs more costly wines. I was privileged to dine at The Dining Room over the tenure of three chefs, the most memorable being Chef Arnaud Berthelier. My job allowed me to eat in fine restaurants all over the country and In many mediocre ones, too. The Dining Room was uniquely special
and I found the staff to be attentive, engaged in their duties and finely attuned to the comfort of their guests. The chef, maître d , waiter and sommelier each signed our menus and sent us home eith freshly-baked Madeleines in a little parchment-paper pyramid, to enjoy with our morning coffee the next day. What a pity that Atlantans and suburbanites don’t seem to appreciate some of the finer things that the city has to offer. The bad economy was the death knell for The Dining Room. My hat is off to Chef Berthelier, maître d’hôtel Guillaume, the sommelier and the waitstaff. Thanks to the friends I dined with for many superb memories! The Ritz-Carlton brand is part and parcel of Atlanta and I’ll be eagerly watching to see what their second act will be for this space inside the RC Buckhead.
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Sammie?
September 15th, 2009
6:28 pm
Sammie? Are we third graders? It’s more cool to spell the word correctly than it is to spell it like a kid.
UGA?
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Middle School Teacher
September 15th, 2009
6:30 pm
What a ridiculous comment from Julie. That argument is akin to saying, “Why worry that there are guns and drugs in public schools? IF you don’t like it, just send your kid to private school.” It’s conveniant to think that people who don’t like school lunches can just make their own at home and, if they are not doing so, it is because they’re lazy. The truth is that more than one million children go hungry in the U.S. daily. Simply by luck of birth, you and I were not one of them.
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catlady
September 15th, 2009
6:58 pm
Jill, all parents have to do is fill out the free lunch forms. If your income is below about 40000$ with 4 people, you get free lunch. Maybe higher. If you cannot pay your child’s lunch but you make too much money for free lunch, realign your priorities. Or put together a lunch for them.
Last year was the first one where we did not continue to let kids charge their meals. We had kids owing hundreds of dollars each year–nearly $100000 the year before at our school alone. You wanna pay taxes on that? As we teachers had urged, last year they cut the food back to sandwich and milk and found that it took care of 98% of the problem. Amazing. Either the money was found and paid or the parent filled out and qualified for free lunch.
Our lunches provide way too much meat based proteins, usually baked (fried) food, heavily breaded. I can’t stand it. They do give the kids many more choices, but it is frequently prepackaged “food product”.
I was required to eat school food growing up. The idea was that I would be exposed to more types of food, but I just couldn’t eat the stuff–overcooked/undercooked/greasy/salty. My children also grew up eating school lunch except on days when they couldn’t stand the food (ie, tacos). Then, they made their own lunch.
Each school used to be allowed to plan and order its own food. We ate so much better–mashed potatoes with milk, for example. One time it was my kindergarten class’ turn. One of my boys wanted us to get deer meat–he even volunteered that he and his dad could bring in 5 or 6 deer–enough to feed the school of 300.
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AlexDad
September 16th, 2009
9:36 am
Not sure where the $50 million number comes from. But that is only $1 more per child for less than two days of the school year… 30 million children participate in the National School Lunch Program each of the 180 days of the school year. $50 million will have next to no impact. You need an additional $4 to $5 billion per year to make an impact on what is served. And for the record, the school lunch at my son’s school in Virginia is awesome: $2.00 per day for confetti barley salad, fresh pear, carrots, and skim milk. He loves it and so do I! Thank you to the Lunch Ladies for all you do!
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Becky
September 16th, 2009
10:00 am
@R.Davis, thank you..I don’t have any children, but I do have 2 “adopted” grandchildren and I go to eat lunch with them about every two weeks..The food that they are served is not to bad..Still, I see a lot of kids that don’t eat any of it..
I don’t want to say that it’s all kids, but some just don’t eat even if the food taste good..I see kids that bring a lunch from home and they don’t eat either..So if this lady can help do something with the lunches that will make the kids eat better, I’m all for it..
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Becky
September 16th, 2009
10:24 am
AlexDad, I have a sister that lives in VA and she has told me several times that lunches in school there have always been better..She had 3 children that went to school there and they alwyas loved the lunches that were served..
As for all of the talk about kids getting free lunches, just about everyc child gets that..I had custody of my 2 great nieces last year and with the SS and V.A. money, plus my salary, they both were still able to recieve free lunches..
The one thing that I would like to know though, is why do they offer the kids a salad, but they don’t let them have salad dressing? That’s just me wondering..
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reservoirDAWG
September 16th, 2009
11:15 am
I agree Tyler. A chef should stick to plates with fancy garnishes and coulis. Leave bbq to those who know how to cook it.
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Greg
September 16th, 2009
11:27 am
Let them have it that way. Most of the people in this town don’t know what bbq is anyway. For those of us that like bbq, we know where to get it. If I am not cooking at home, I like Fox Bros.
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Kim Huffman
September 16th, 2009
11:54 am
I go to Madisonville TN, ( Sweetwater exit to bloody 411, then north ) about 3 times a year and buy 10lbs of bacon at a time…doling it out as bribery to friends, etc. It is without a doubt the best bacon you will ever buy, and yes, these are Iowa hogs he uses ( no small bucolic farm here ) for the job.
I would beg to differ on the hams, though..I have had Kentucky cured hams that are a bit tastier because of the sugar cure used. Benton’s may excel in the smoke department, though.
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GD
September 16th, 2009
12:10 pm
BBQ. The best is done at home on my BGE!!
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Chaz
September 16th, 2009
12:14 pm
That fact that they’ve already changed chefs speaks volumes about this ersatz ‘barbecue’ establishment. When every review focuses on how good the veggie options are, you know it’s not BBQ. Perhaps the new guy knows his stuff, but that ’sammie’ doesn’t look so hot.
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Cindy
September 16th, 2009
12:51 pm
I think we should start with letting kids see their parents eat better. And yes we should bring recess back. What good is it it preach to the kids about eating better and they see a parent eating the equivalent of 3 days worth of calories in one sitting and staring mindlessly into a tv screen.
As a side note, there’s a really cool new lunch box for helping manage portions and eating healthy. It’s called Basikbox. Basikbox.com. Really innovative in food portioning which is key to eating healthy.
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Horrace
September 16th, 2009
1:25 pm
M Ford Goldman, the food expert lets her daughter eat school food? Maybe you can get one of those chefs you suck up to and have them cater school lunch.
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mford
September 16th, 2009
2:01 pm
Yes Horrace, I let my daughter eat lunch room food. I believe all kids in public schools have the right to a healthy meal. That’s why I support this initiative. And thanks for the tip, but I think I’ll just keep fighting for better school lunches.
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david
September 16th, 2009
2:07 pm
Toscano and Sons is one of my favorite places. Try the caprese panini Simple perfection!
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Foie Gras Fred
September 16th, 2009
2:12 pm
I tend to agree with Rollergirl just a bit. It does seem like traditional 5 star dining in this town has become extinct. Folks love their deep fried snickers and jalapeno poppers. I would stick with Rathbuns and JOEL maybe Repast.
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VoiceOf Reason
September 16th, 2009
2:24 pm
Hey Meredith Ford,
Any chance at getting a review of The Shark Bar and Restaurant in East Point?
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JohnsCreekMom
September 16th, 2009
2:38 pm
The important fact worth reiterating is that we ARE paying for school lunches (taxes!) and they are not nutritionally adequate. In what scenario would anyone pay for something and then not complain when its quality diminishes? Many people here are taking up the argument that parents who want healthy lunch food for their kids are begging for a handout. While some families need assistance, most pay the standard rate. Even so, should children of poor families just starve? Many families need help for many different reasons, but whatever the reason I think it is cruel to overlook the basic needs of our children. The families and community leaders who are pulling together their own resources to help our children deserve our respect and admiration.
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Robert
September 16th, 2009
2:41 pm
I love Toscano and Sons…but E. 48th Street Market in Dunwoody is the better of the Italian delis…
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Boo
September 16th, 2009
2:43 pm
Mom!!!…..Why did you have to let everyone know my name is Boo?
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Rodney
September 16th, 2009
2:51 pm
FAR too many food memories of my family to write about here (we’re a family-lunch-or-dinner-all-the-time kinda clan) but I distinctly remember
-watching my Mom roll out dumplings with a drinking glass instead of a rolling pin
-every summer, early each day, working in the garden with my Mom and Grandma and then sitting under a shade tree shelling, shucking, or snapping
-jelly making (something I’ve yet to master)
-candy making at Christmas
As for favorite quotes, well … I think the Rhett and Link BBQ Song (go ahead and youtube it) is quite quotable, especially the admonition that “BBQ IS NOT A VERB!”
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Marta Wood
September 16th, 2009
2:55 pm
Pleeease! Taco Bell is not Puerto Rican food! it is Mexican – No where close to the flavors of PR; we have more than five ingredients in our cooking process!! Please try Mojitos in Norcross (Cuban), Havana South (4060 Buford Dr.), and the grandaddy of them all: Las Palmeras in Mid-town!
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Brogen's Hero
September 16th, 2009
2:58 pm
I have enjoyed some wonderful meals at The Dining room over the years. Yes the service was a bit formal, however it was alway’s very professional. As has already been noted there were a number of world class chef’s who ran the dining room.
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M -
September 16th, 2009
3:27 pm
This is a major loss for Atlanta in general. This city needs a nice coat and tie required establishment.
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Sam
September 16th, 2009
3:38 pm
Got a Reuben from Muss and Turner. Had half my sandwich and took it back because they forgot the kraut. Muss looked at it as though there was no way I could be telling the truth and then opened up the half spooned some kraut in it and gave it back to the cashier to give it back to me. No apologies or an offer for a sandwich the next time in. 9 bucks for a sandwich with no sides and this is the best he could treat a regular. I can assure you there are better meals for the price and you won’t have to deal with the arrogance of chefs who make sandwiches.
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Jason Greene
September 16th, 2009
4:37 pm
Pleeease! Las Palmeras in Midtown is Cuban. Are sure Martha you are Puerto Rican? Somebody, please tell us where to get the real PR thing!
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Jason Greene
September 16th, 2009
4:47 pm
Hey Meridith! Aren’t you on the floor laughing with us, at some of these meatheads! Anyway, we’ve been lontime fans/customers at Sawicki’s in Decatur. Always grab a sandwich to take home!
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Anani
September 16th, 2009
4:57 pm
Jason, you can get the real thing if a Puerto Rican cooks for you (which I’ve done for my fiends). I’ve been to Mi Pilon, and it is really good, and they serve a lot of food for the price you pay. Try Wilo Benet’s cook book “Puerto Rico True Flavors”. It has great tips on how to cook authentic Puerto Rican Food. Buen provecho!
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Anani
September 16th, 2009
4:58 pm
*friends
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HarryB
September 16th, 2009
5:15 pm
That’s it. I’m packing my bags, leaving the island, moving to Atlanta and will open a true Puerto Rican “fonda” there. You Boricuas need it! Bendito!
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News Daily
September 16th, 2009
6:07 pm
Well said JohnsCreekMom. I simply disregard the comments of folks like many of those posted here. They clearly just like to complain and find fault without ever helping find solutions.
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Huh?
September 16th, 2009
6:20 pm
Wait….The blogger has stories on cupcakes, BBQ, and other less than healthy foods, yet wants us to take her seriously regarding school lunches?
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ArmadilloPepper
September 16th, 2009
6:52 pm
In response to ATL Starter………Chow Chows are little green chunky pickled tomatoes and cabbage mixed-up with a few other goodies that jump on top of your Pinto Beans and take them to the next level.
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Cristo
September 16th, 2009
7:50 pm
I had a Benton country ham sent to my family for Christmas last year. My mom apparently served it like a regular ham for Christmas dinner. The ham was so salty that no one could eat it.
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bongo
September 16th, 2009
11:17 pm
I orderd a ham from Benton in 2005. The best I ever had. Still a current customer although I typically
order smaller quantities of sliced pre-packaged. The bacon never equaled the ham in my opinion. One suggestion, either fry the ham slices in coca-cola (for a contrast to the sodium) or in a bit of strong coffee. It is also a knock-out with my infamous tomato gravy on homemade biscuits.
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Amy
September 16th, 2009
11:22 pm
After reading about Allan Benton in Southern Living and the AJC I made a point of stopping in on one of my many family visit trips between Atlanta and Knoxville. I introduced myself to Mr. Benton and told him I’d read about his products. He was so friendly and welcoming but his store is off the beaten path for sure. We’ve only tried the bacon and proscuitto–both were excellent. To Cristo’s point, isn’t country ham *supposed* to be salty?! I have never been a fan of country ham for that reason…
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Rena
September 17th, 2009
9:16 am
I’m black from South Jersey and I miss authentic Puerto Rican Food. I see I need to do more research-lol seems to be alot of conflict to a fav place. ya’ll keep it up so I can figure it out-lol
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mford
September 17th, 2009
9:35 am
Huh: The Table Talk blog is designed to encompass a wide variety of food topics, including restaurant reviews, product reviews, cookbooks, food news and more.
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Stan
September 17th, 2009
11:11 am
Yes, country ham is salty. I love it but seldom get to eat it.
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D
September 17th, 2009
11:53 am
I really would rather meet Bobby Deen than Hugh Jackman ! Hugh can dance,but I bet he can’t cook.
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Monica
September 17th, 2009
11:58 am
The Deen Brothers….delicious!
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Shields
September 17th, 2009
12:20 pm
These are cool guys, Jamie & I were friends growing up in Albany. Didn’t know little bro very well but they’ve all done well!! My mom’s fried chicken & cornbread are better than Paula’s though…sorry guys!!
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Dave in Marietta
September 17th, 2009
12:39 pm
They owe every single bit of their success to their mom.
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Atl_Finest
September 17th, 2009
12:56 pm
I knew Paula, Bobby and Jamie when I was working front desk for 4yrs (93-97) at the Best Western hotel in midtown Savannah. At that time they were renting the resturant inside the lobby area. I remember Paula getting into it with the owner of the hotel (he was a true A-hole). She left the hotel in 96, got a 150k loan to start Lady in sons in downtown Savh and never looked back. I was like “Go head Paula”. She deserve all her success. Paula and her sons were just sweethearts. I often wonder if they stayed the same.
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Chelle
September 17th, 2009
1:14 pm
I always enjoy watching the Deen Brothers on tv and Paula to me is the GRANDMA FOR THE USA
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F-105 Thunderchief
September 17th, 2009
1:26 pm
I had a job associated with the G-8 Summit, which essentially took over Savannah in 2004. And, folks said you have to go to Lady and Sons, and because unwarranted fear of anarchy had emptied the streets, I walked right in and sat down. Bobby came up and talked to me and very gracious even though during the conversation, I said, “I didn’t know Paula Deen had a restaurant.” As a fellow South Georgian of humble beginnings, I’m very happy for their success.
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Brill
September 17th, 2009
1:46 pm
I was able to meet them once at a book signing and they engaged me in conversation without me asking, took pictures with my wife and her friend, and if first impressions mean anything, they seemed like genuinely nice guys. I liked their last book as well, it was basically about tailgating and easy to make items. Stuff guys can make beyond hamburgers and hot dogs that everyone would eat. Hope they do well. Oh, and met their mom once too and she is “what you see is what you get”. I was happy about that, hate meeting people you admire and they turn out to be jerks.
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
2:01 pm
More swooning over men you can’t have? Do you ever write anything of value?
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
2:13 pm
This is a worthy blog entry how?
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Willie
September 17th, 2009
2:16 pm
You left my name off.
Willie Baxter – Majestic Diner.
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OZZFEST
September 17th, 2009
2:17 pm
Yippie…I am still thankful for Jamie being the first person I ever smoked a j with back on Chatham Drive in Albany around 1984.
As for Bobby…mention the name Angie Cato and see if the dude does not soil his pants.
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Becky
September 17th, 2009
2:22 pm
I’ve never met any of the Deen family, but I would imagine that they are all very nice..I have eaten at their restaurant and the food was wonderful..I have one of Paula’s cookbooks and it’s such a great book to cook from..
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mford
September 17th, 2009
2:26 pm
Dream on, “Puhlease.”
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mford
September 17th, 2009
2:29 pm
I figure it’s as worthy as any of your comments, “Puhlease.”
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why me
September 17th, 2009
2:42 pm
I’m sure Paula Deen and her sons are fine, and decent people. Having said that, without Ms deen does one think these two men would be writing cook books, going on tour, and having a tv program?
I doubt it very much.
I used to watch the foodnetwork tv channel until they got rid of Emeril, and overdosed on Rachel (yuck) The ace of cakes, and Paula……
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ATLShawty
September 17th, 2009
2:57 pm
The first time I saw them on Paula’s show, I didn’t realize who they were – I thought they were lovers. There’s no doubt that the younger one is gay…even though the older one acts gay.
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Steve
September 17th, 2009
3:00 pm
A friend of mine who runs a shop in Savannah swears they are both gay, with the younger one having a boyfriend. Oh well, they are nice guys. Just watch out with all that fatty cooking, you two will be as big as your momma in 10 years.
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
3:03 pm
Comments? I asked a question.
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
3:08 pm
OK…You’re a snob, we get it.
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Tyler Pike
September 17th, 2009
3:27 pm
I was caught in the mess. It was terrible. Luckily, the traffic was so slow I was able to get breakfast in while sitting there. I had 2 of the best BBQ biscuits you could ever imagine. Yes, BBQ frozen and reheated is still quite good. Let’s just say I could feed a small army with the contents of my freezer. Daddy keeps me stocked….
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Chris
September 17th, 2009
3:31 pm
And you’re an ass. We get it.
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Tyler PIke
September 17th, 2009
3:31 pm
I wouldn’t kick either out of bed, I agree-too cute.
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confused
September 17th, 2009
3:38 pm
Rachel Ray – good looks????? you’ve got to be kidding……….Giada, yes……..Rachel, NO WAY!!!!!!!!!
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FBR
September 17th, 2009
3:52 pm
My youngest son’s roommate in college worked at their Savannah Restaurant–great, wonderful people–wonderful food–and a joy to have them as strong members of the Bulldawg Nation!!
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Bitter?
September 17th, 2009
4:17 pm
“Puhlease?”, it is clear you have nothing better to do with your time than post hateful comments AND questions on this blog. Don’t you have something better to do with your time? May I suggest a hobby? Maybe something that is actually productive?
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
4:29 pm
Bitter?
What I do with my time is my business. The blogger here has been more than rude to me when I pose a question, or make a remark regarding the content and or quality of certain posts. It is a public forum, meaning anyone can respond. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why this particular blog post is worthy.
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DB
September 17th, 2009
4:33 pm
Will Y’all please ( not puhlease) leave MFord alone ? She is a very valuable contributor to the food section. ( What is left of it ) Plus she doesn’t get 30 weeks vacation a year like Mr. Kessler.
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Bitter?
September 17th, 2009
4:36 pm
Puhlease? I was not aware that you are the Blog Police! Maybe people like Tyler Pike have a story to share . . . maybe not everyone hates their life as much as you do.
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Baton Bob
September 17th, 2009
4:36 pm
Word! They both sooooooo cute!
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Ya know....
September 17th, 2009
4:41 pm
It would help if you did not engage with those you disagree with…..This person makes a point about being able to respond. If they truly are trying to get under your skin(mford), you would be best served to not exchange barbs with them. So what they are mean and rude? For you to make snide remarks only perpetuates the problem and is rather unprofessional.
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Puhlease?
September 17th, 2009
4:45 pm
Who said anything about blog police? What does Tyler Perry have to do with any of this? I am exercising an option to remark on blog posts. SOMETIMES, I may disagree. If we are all to march in step to what is said here, then we are doomed for a live void of creativity and free thought.
@ Ya know. I’m not being rude. I am being treated rudely…Pay attention.
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gagirl
September 17th, 2009
4:49 pm
They’re even hotter in person.
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Bitter?
September 17th, 2009
4:51 pm
Tyler Perry? Don’t let your anger affect your ability to read! Just calm down, it’s going to be ok . . . I think everyone’s “live” would be a little better if people like you stuck to being a productive members of society.
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Brill
September 17th, 2009
5:41 pm
I saw Man vs. Food where Adam Richman had like an hour to eat a 6 lb. burrito and couldn’t do it, so no way anyone is eating a 7lb’er in 5 minutes. But it would be fun to watch people try..or maybe a little gross.
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Brill
September 17th, 2009
5:41 pm
Meant to type 15 minutes, still no way.
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Robert
September 17th, 2009
5:55 pm
Not a twisted taco worst taco I’ve ever had.
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Super Paul Bonebreaker Barlow
September 17th, 2009
6:51 pm
I’m in!!!……possibly for the karaoke contest, that is…I may be a competitive eater – but i’m not crazy…not totally carzy, that is
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Dylan
September 17th, 2009
7:40 pm
I haven’t tried their burrito’s but the taco’s are awesome! My favorites are the fish taco’s and the fried chicken with wing sauce. I look forward to the 7 year celebration.
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Tracy
September 17th, 2009
7:55 pm
Sorry about that Willie! We will make sure you are listed in all other notifications.
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Travis
September 17th, 2009
8:04 pm
The Jager Machine is mine. Also, I have eaten @ the Midtown Twisted Taco numerous times and the burritos are really good.
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Eric
September 17th, 2009
8:33 pm
Enter your comments here I eat @ Twisted all the time. I love their Thai chicken tacos and they have the best salsa I’ve ever eaten. Can’t wait to watch someone try to eat that burrito.
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Atlanta Native
September 17th, 2009
8:43 pm
Dylan – you haven’t tried the burrito’s what? What belonging to the tacos is awesome?
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Jim007
September 17th, 2009
9:22 pm
Where is Joey Chestnut ???
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candlerpark
September 17th, 2009
9:35 pm
Great topic Meredith! Too bad it brought out idiots that missed the point. Kids deserve better; those that pay and those that don’t. How did a blog entry on healthy school lunches turn into right-wing sewer overflow? It’s especially odd when you consider the socio-economic status of the Morningside parents.
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mel in midtown
September 17th, 2009
9:54 pm
I live just down the street from DBA. I want them to succeed – especially in this space. I’ve eaten there at least 15 times.
The quality of the meat is excellent – but there is no flavor. The sauces are mundane at best. There’s no “signature” to this Q.
Matt needs to dump the “chef” concept – taht isn’t what a BBQ joint is about. He should spend a few days at Fox Bros. or Daddy D’z – The Q is much more flavorful!
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Christina
September 17th, 2009
10:50 pm
Lets hope their cookbook (and show, I’m sure) will feature food you can eat without having an immediate heart attack. Love Paula, but Jeez, does she EVER cook anything healthy?
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Joey Chestnut
September 17th, 2009
11:04 pm
Jager Machine, here I come…
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DX107
September 18th, 2009
8:34 am
Johnnys Pizza by the State Farmers Market is awesome.
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TennTitansATLfan
September 18th, 2009
8:35 am
What about Savage Pizza in little five points?
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Edward
September 18th, 2009
8:35 am
I would have to add Pizza Fusion (2233 Peachtree Rd in Buckhead) among the best in the city. High quality fresh ingredients (and plenty of them) and a near-perfect crust cooked just right.
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TennTitansATLfan
September 18th, 2009
8:35 am
Or, Enzo’s in Tucker?
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artyc
September 18th, 2009
8:38 am
alpine bakery in alpharetta the best
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Jimmy Walker
September 18th, 2009
8:38 am
Corner Pizza in Chamblee … dy-no-mite!
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Hi there
September 18th, 2009
8:39 am
Jet’s Pizza in Smyrna is always the best. Stand out fav, Mellow Mushroom.
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dave
September 18th, 2009
8:39 am
as a native New Yorker, i grew up eating the best pizza. When i moved here, i was sorely disappointed in every pizza i tried. Needless to say, chain pizza joints, need not apply, they are all terrible. I looked for the mom and pop shop. Nothing. Then, I came across Cosmo’s Little Italy in the downtown square in Lawrenceville. SOLD. THE BEST PIZZA EVER! this is the closest New York style pizza you can find. And if you are lucky enough, you can sit, eat a slice, and watch Cosmo and his wife fight while making their delicious dishes. Dinner and a show, every time.
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michael
September 18th, 2009
8:41 am
oz in college park!
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MH
September 18th, 2009
8:42 am
Yo Meredith … you can do better than this.
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Mark
September 18th, 2009
8:42 am
Felini’s might have a good (not great) slice but their whole pie stinks.
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MR164
September 18th, 2009
8:42 am
Z-Pizza (Midtown)
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BFITWWW
September 18th, 2009
8:43 am
Pizza Bar on Veteran’s Memorial is the best!
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ldh
September 18th, 2009
8:45 am
Mama’s Pizza – Old Milton Parkway, Alpharetta!! Great pizza and a get a Greek Salad!
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Pizza Fan
September 18th, 2009
8:46 am
Cosmo’s Little Italy is the best pizza …
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Za
September 18th, 2009
8:49 am
Check out Max’s Brick Oven downtown. New place but great pizza!
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Stvk
September 18th, 2009
8:50 am
Urban Pie in Kirkwood! Try the Grease Monkey. Also a side salad with the Balsimic Dressing is exceptional.
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Reds
September 18th, 2009
8:53 am
Capozzi’s in Marietta…. great slices.
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melinda
September 18th, 2009
8:53 am
Paizano’s in Downtown Norcross. Best. Pizza. Ever. They even import the water for the crust from NY!
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JHB
September 18th, 2009
8:55 am
I’m coming from New York and must admit the Pizza Bar on Veteran’s Memorial does a darn good job on their pizza. For anyone who has not been there you’re missing a damn good slice of Pizza.
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Slowmo
September 18th, 2009
8:56 am
St. Angelos in Smyrna.
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Tina
September 18th, 2009
8:59 am
Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw…AWESOME
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GeorgiaDuck
September 18th, 2009
9:02 am
Rosa’a without a doubt is the best without going to NYC!
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paul
September 18th, 2009
9:05 am
Nancy’s deepdish meat lovers pizza in mid-town. It is expensive but it is possibly the best I have had.
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Annie Toro
September 18th, 2009
9:05 am
Felini’s? Really? Come on. Bad, cheap pizza. If you count local chains, like Felini’s, then Mellow Mushroom makes the list and Felini’s is out.
But hands down, best pizza dig in town for cheap, greasy, NY style pizza is All Star Pizza.
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JMG
September 18th, 2009
9:08 am
Recently opened Mulberry St on Cobb Pkwy in Vinings is my new favorite place for a slice, great crust, NY Style…
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Libby
September 18th, 2009
9:11 am
Enter your comments here
Little place in Loganville on Hwy 78 called BASSANOS. IT’S AN AUTHENTIC NEW YORK PIZZA PIE….TRY IT ONCE AND YOU ARE HOOKED!
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Tucker
September 18th, 2009
9:13 am
Second the nomination of Enzo’s in Tucker. Also nominate The Loop.
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MG
September 18th, 2009
9:14 am
Gotta be Shorty’s pizza in Tucker!
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Momma Bell
September 18th, 2009
9:15 am
Tava’s Pizza, Conyers, GA. The ABSOLUTE BEST!!!
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BusNPoo
September 18th, 2009
9:16 am
Vingenzo’s on East Main Street in Woodstock has the best authentic Neapolitan pizza in the area.
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Swervin
September 18th, 2009
9:17 am
Jet’s does not serve slices niether does St. Angelo’s
But Bella’s does in Smyrna and they are bigger than your head!
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Big Hib
September 18th, 2009
9:17 am
Nancy’s in Buckhead…Deep dish is a dime a dozen in Chicago but in Atlanta…it’s Nancy’s!!!
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Scuba Steve
September 18th, 2009
9:20 am
Definitely Rosa’s…both the Downtown location and the Marietta location!
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ziza
September 18th, 2009
9:20 am
as a new yorker who remembers when a slice was 25 cents, fellini’s has no business on the list. i agree with the other poster take fellini’s off and put mellow mushroom on. fellini’s pizza is awful most of the time. i also second the oz nomination and my personal add is atena in sandy springs to the list. but really there aint no pizza like northeast pizza. chicago second. thats it. fuhgetaboutit!
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Alex
September 18th, 2009
9:24 am
Avondale Pizza Cafe. Crisp crust and great fresh toppings. Sauce isn’t overly sweet. I love it!
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Otto
September 18th, 2009
9:25 am
Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw…AWESOME I agree!
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Tammy B
September 18th, 2009
9:25 am
Best pizza in town is OZ Pizza, College Park
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Chris
September 18th, 2009
9:26 am
Rosa’s in Marietta, and there’s a place that I wish I could remember the name – Shoppes at Acworth on 41 @ Mars Hill.
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jcatl
September 18th, 2009
9:26 am
Camelli’s next to the Murder Kroger – the Monster Slice FTMFW.
Half the places in this article, to the best of my knowledge, do not serve pizza by the slice.
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jimmy
September 18th, 2009
9:27 am
I have to agree with many of these selections. Of the chains in town, I think fellini’s is definitely the best.
Some of the comments have been added to the list, I’ve yet to make it to Cosmo’s and Vingenzo’s. My experience at Rosa’s was not good, but I need to give it another go.
MFG – Can you confirm that Enrico has left Fritti? Rumor i heard was that he was dipping his dough in the Fritti flour…
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Otto
September 18th, 2009
9:28 am
Mellow Mushroon varies greatly location to location. On average Fellini’s is better. The Mellow on Roswell RD does have good dough. I agree it isn’t the best. I get calzones or a salad at Fellini’s.
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lrm216
September 18th, 2009
9:28 am
As an ex-New Yawker there are two great shops in Marietta, one is Saporito’s on Roswell Road (East Lake Shopping Center) and the other Capozi’s on Sandy Plains Rd. Note to Annie – please go to either and try a real slice of pizza. If you think All Star should even be on here, sweetie, you ain’t never had a pizza!
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5thGenerationATL
September 18th, 2009
9:29 am
Vintage in Chamblee…great value, atmosphere and pizza….
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Otto
September 18th, 2009
9:32 am
Big Pie in the Sky blows Rosa’s and Bella’s out of the water.
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pd
September 18th, 2009
9:35 am
Shorty’s is my personal favorite.
I LOVE the John Lee Hooker!
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Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:38 am
Savage Pizza is the best.
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stmtgal
September 18th, 2009
9:38 am
Stone Mountain Pizza Cafe on Hwy. 78
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Pizzalover
September 18th, 2009
9:41 am
Grant Park Pizza
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df
September 18th, 2009
9:41 am
Maddios on N. Druid, Nancy’s in Buckhead and Rocky Mountain Pizza off Hemphill in Midtown. All great pies.
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Elizabeth
September 18th, 2009
9:42 am
Enter your comments here
Enzo’s in Tucker
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Kat
September 18th, 2009
9:43 am
Check out Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw off of Jiles Road. If you and one other person order their “huge” pizza (it costs $50), then you get $250. This is a big honking pizza though. Great service too!
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TH
September 18th, 2009
9:43 am
Camelli’s on Ponce next to the Crack Kroger and Vintage Pizza in Chamblee.
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Sara
September 18th, 2009
9:43 am
Stella’s has great thin crust (whole wheat) pizza–it rivals Fritti Fritti!
For a traditional whole pie, Grant Station!
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rmayo
September 18th, 2009
9:43 am
I can’t believe no one has mentioned Grant Central it is the best local spot I always take friends from out of town there for a good pizza.
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Chuck Norris
September 18th, 2009
9:44 am
Zucca’s in Smyrna won best in the SE at the food show in Vegas. Its unreal. Chuck slices that sh_t up.
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GTJackets
September 18th, 2009
9:47 am
Unique’s pizza on Ponce is by far the best and nobody knows about it so it’s never too busy. they only do pick up and delivery though so you can’t eat inside which sucks. But they are right across from the ghetto kroger and the clairmont.
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reservoirDAWG
September 18th, 2009
9:49 am
Mellow Mushroom sucks. Frozen shipped out dough. The Best is Mama’s.
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Bobby
September 18th, 2009
9:53 am
Buckhead Pizza Co on Peachtree (near Grand Hyatt and Realm Condos) is a great place to get pizza. Great bar too. I think they have only been open for less than a year.
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Thanks
September 18th, 2009
9:55 am
Oz was good before they closed.
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heyjude
September 18th, 2009
9:57 am
Enter your comments here
WOW! I can’t believe nobody has even mentioned one of the greatest Pizza Institutions in Atlanta that has been around for years!!! EVERYBODY’S PIZZA!! Hello????
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GTJackets
September 18th, 2009
9:57 am
question? who here has actually worked in a restaurant? for a significant period of time? i thought so… so why don’t you go work in a restaurant for a while? what’s that you say? too important to work in a restaurant? I thought so.
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Greg
September 18th, 2009
9:58 am
I would go with the Janis Joplin at Shorty’s in Tucker. It is one spot I will drive 20 miles to eat a pizza.
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SouthPaw
September 18th, 2009
10:03 am
Traditions in Duluth — PIB & Rogers Bridge — best NY style pizza by the slice hands down
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Jenny
September 18th, 2009
10:03 am
I second Bobby’s mention of Buckhead Pizza Co. in Buckhead! I’m a pizza fanatic and I’ve had some good ones all around town, but I’m definitely a fan of this place. They’ve got good pizza and other entrees as well! I would definitely suggest trying it out. I live in Brookhaven and will bypass Mellow Mushroom any day just to go to Buckhead Pizza Co. instead!!
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JEAS3
September 18th, 2009
10:05 am
Fabiano’s in Douglasville makes a great slice for those of you who live west of Atlanta!
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rainman
September 18th, 2009
10:26 am
Biba’s pizza off sugarloaf is good
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MH
September 18th, 2009
11:20 am
http://www.himalayasindia.com/
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Amina
September 18th, 2009
11:32 am
Asked for favorite restaurant, not food… Salsa con Sabor IS CLOSED! We stopped going there after tried it 3 times w/new owner, and was horrible!!! Every time I have gone to Mi Pilón (all 3-4, no more please), food maintained on heating trays was cold, pernil, etc. served from them was heated in microwave (right in front of my eyes…). How dangerous!!!! Food not kept at proper temps… Not to mention, they usually didn’t have our first choice request… Other than these…, ummm, this one… there are no PR restaurants in Atlanta!!!! Years ago…, many… wonderful Puerto Rican restaurant on Johnson Rd (off Briarcliff), in the 80’s I believe, was the first one! I’ve been searching since 1971!!!!
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Rodney
September 18th, 2009
11:33 am
Boy am I late to this party! Sheesh – you’d think the topic was BBQ the way folks are commenting!
Anyway – couldn’t agree with you more re: Fritti. Simply wonderful (and even though it’s not pizza, it must be mentioned that I’m still lamenting the fried smelt – hasn’t been on the menu for years).
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Puhlease?
September 18th, 2009
12:15 pm
Savage pizza. Both L5P and the new Avondale location.
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griftdrift
September 18th, 2009
12:42 pm
Agree with Himalayas
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blake
September 18th, 2009
1:38 pm
Bombay Grill definately NOT one of them–this place gets worse everytime (not going there anymore) service horrible, EXTREMELY gross, dirty chairs, tables, clothes etc. Also a rip off—just horrible management IMO.
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Matt
September 18th, 2009
1:48 pm
I appreciate everyones comments. Drew has a tremendous amount of experience and passion for BBQ. He has been cooking BBQ at competitions and his BBQ was featured at The Albert during his tenure there. I don’t believe that his talent is discredited because he has diverse experience. I hope you will come try his style at D.B.A. FYI, Steve Bucalo, who runs the kitchen at Fox Bros. was the chef de cuisine after Drew at Kevin Rathbun Steak, and he does a great job at Fox Bros.
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GP
September 18th, 2009
2:21 pm
Cosmo the pizza Nazi is good. So is Dino’s in Buford.
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ed deguiva
September 18th, 2009
2:25 pm
Ms. Goldman–in your Lazeez Tava Fry review, you said something about “Hindi dietary restrictions.” Hindi is a language, Hindu is a faith. You are not smart.
http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-restaurants-food/lazeez-tava-fry-138943.html
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Fat Richard
September 18th, 2009
2:35 pm
Speaking of ass….
I hope they are gay. They certainly look it!!!
Hubba hubba hot!
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Dave
September 18th, 2009
2:43 pm
Zyka hands down. They have the best Nan and Chicken 65 in town.
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Jim Warren
September 18th, 2009
2:44 pm
Paula Deen is one of the nicest, most real persons you could ever meet…even off stage she is a real sweetie. Cooked with her on her show ( from audience) and then on stage with her during book tour.
America could use more real folks like the Deen Family!
And please, could we all just GET over the “who is gay and who is not” discussion….AARGGHHH!
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Fat Richard
September 18th, 2009
3:01 pm
Jim Warren,
So, you’re saying her boys couldn’t be “the nicest, most real persons” or “real folks” in America if they were gay? What if they are gay and proud of it?
What’s your problem besides anger? What’s your problem with gays? Latent tendencies bothering you?
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Kashi
September 18th, 2009
3:05 pm
Bombay Grill, 100% agree blake. This place is extremely gorss, dirty and horrible service. They served me Frazan-vegi smelling compare to sewer. Will never go there and no-one should ever try.
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Atlanta Native
September 18th, 2009
3:08 pm
I cannot claim to have made an exhaustive survey, but for over 20 years through changes in ownership, Himalayas in Chamblee has served up tasty fare with good service.
I have not tried Zyka, but I keep driving by. Based on Dave’s comment, I will give it a try.
I heard an interview with Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull once where he stated they always end their tout in Cal. (LA, I think) so he can eat the curry there. The reason he ends the tour is that he cannot perform for a few days afterwards. I’ve wondered what place that was over the years.
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mford
September 18th, 2009
3:12 pm
The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.
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Southsidegirl
September 18th, 2009
3:17 pm
We like the Palace in Norcross and also Ashiana.
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cphil
September 18th, 2009
3:26 pm
They are great guys!!! Meet them once and had a great time getting to know them.. I can contest that they are straight!!!
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HotPockets
September 18th, 2009
3:28 pm
These guys would be cutting your neighbors yard if it wasn’t for their mom. Classic definition of nepotism.
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Kristin
September 18th, 2009
3:37 pm
Vatica in Marietta – great food, great owners
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JuanGargantuan
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
Swapna off Cobb Parkway. Himalayas shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence. Swapna is the real deal and has the best lunch buffet in Atlanta. Don’t be intimidated by the line out the door because they turn tables with ease. Happy dining.
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mademelaugh
September 18th, 2009
3:51 pm
Saw them in person at a cooking show last year and laughed so hard my sides hurt by the end of the show….and got several great recipes on top of that! Who could ask for more?
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Marta Wood
September 18th, 2009
4:06 pm
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Jason: u are correct – all the good Latino restaurants in ATL are basically Cuban, but when you can’t get the real thing, Cuban will have to do…and please don’t change my name to Anglo: Martha, it is MARTA!! With a roll on the RRRRRR
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joann bailey
September 18th, 2009
4:12 pm
WHO CARES IF THEY ARE GAY OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE 2 NICE GUYS. ENOUGH OF THE NEGATIVE STUFF. THEY WHERE RAISED RIGHT , A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOVE FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THAT ABOUT THEIR KIDS.
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joann bailey
September 18th, 2009
4:16 pm
OH YEA TO OZZFEST: JUST LIKE A HATER TO BRING UP SOMETHING HURTFUL THAT WAS DONE YEARS AGO. HATE IS AN AWFUL TASTING FOOD.
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Andy
September 18th, 2009
4:16 pm
Okay, so what if they are successful because of their mother? That’s America. And that shouldn’t take away fromt the fact that they have a great presence (in person and on tv). I have met them and they seem to be genuinely nice people. Genuinely hot, nice men. With accents. And that’s hotter than a plate of fried chicken any day!
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J. Ellenburg
September 18th, 2009
4:21 pm
I’ve known their father(Jimmy Dean) for a long while here in Albany, and I assure you these young men are not gay. We are very proud of their success along with the lovely Paula. Give um hell boys.
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nick
September 18th, 2009
4:46 pm
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moksha in roswell…better than any others in atlanta…nearly as good as indian in england which has the best in the world
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Disappointed
September 18th, 2009
5:12 pm
So sad to see the unnecessary commentary. People pay $500-$800 dollars for dinner for the experience and to be treated well, in addition to eating food that is extraordinary. Besides it’s a free country and why should any indiviual care how another spends their money.
My husband and I have had very good experiences at the DR. One of the best meals we’ve ever had was a white truffle tasting menu. We compare most other fine dining to that one meal. I can’t remember if the chef was Arnaud Berthelier or Bruno Menard. But both chefs were wonderful.
I will miss having the opportunity to get dressed up (jacket required), enjoy a long, peaceful, quiet meal and be in the company of others that chose to spend their time and money that way as well.
Best wishes to the staff.
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Rockerbabe
September 18th, 2009
5:52 pm
And, so many wonder why Americans are so fat or obese. That is way too much food to eat at any one time by one individual. May Twisted Taco also needs to be willing to pay for a trip to the SICU when a contestant has a heart attack from all the fat, salt, grease and cholesterol!
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Jim Warren
September 18th, 2009
6:44 pm
Fat Richard
I AM GAY, you big GOOF!
An earlier post brought it up and my point is still WHO CARES?
No need to apologize to me…figure you just misunderstood me.
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luxomni
September 18th, 2009
6:45 pm
A vote for Havelis in Marietta.
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SallyB
September 18th, 2009
8:34 pm
The Grey Goose martini, straight up, 3 olives, slice of lime, shaken, no stirred at the Blue Ribbon Grill is not only the best, but the most LETHAL in the city!!!!!!
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Foodie
September 18th, 2009
9:56 pm
I would love to know which of these comments was made by a person who actually has eaten at DBA in the past two weeks? the comments make it obvious none of you have. I’ve been there and it was fantastic…everyone who was in there had nothing but great reviews and were happy to finally have BBQ that tastes great (they dont just claim Fox bros is the best sicne thats the closest one to them).
It is sad to see that people read something in the paper and instead of being supportive of restaurants trying to improve, they post messages about the differences between “chefs” and “cooks”. Guess what guys…the average customer could care less what you call yourself, as long as you make great food. I’m sure the editors feel great knowing their readers consist of people who very much lack the respect for what their goal is – to provide Atlantans with the happenings in the area.
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September 18th, 2009
10:42 pm
[...] (36) August 2005 (51) July 2005 (13) Twisted Taco in Atlanta will host a jalapeno eating contest on October 2 that will award a Jager Meister machine. The restaurant will also have a seven pound [...]
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camille
September 18th, 2009
10:55 pm
Raja off peachtree in buckhead, good food for over 20 years
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Lefty
September 18th, 2009
11:09 pm
Interesting how many idiots will actually take the time to write a comment on the blog board but not even try the food. FYI – there is alot of good BBQ in Atlanta. And alot of it is done by guys with culinary experience. To say that people in this town don’t know good BBQ is definitely the sign of a fast food junkie with no class. Try the BBQ at DBA and then write about it.
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the truth
September 18th, 2009
11:18 pm
I agree that food in the cafe should be healthy but the reality is that it is not. As parents, we should fight for better food for our children. I am in complete agreement that something should be done in the school system. However, this is not something that is going to change tomorrow. Our goal as parents is to teach these young people to make good choices. If the choice for healthy food is not available at school then you should make it available. Fight the fight but make the poor kid a good lunch. I refuse to let my children eat that crap. Our bodies are machines if you don’t put the correct fuel in ….. the don’t run properly. Make your daughter a lunch….better yet teach her how. My children are 10 and 12 they can make their own lunches and they do.
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BlondeHoney
September 18th, 2009
11:23 pm
Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw has the BEST margharita pizza i have ever tasted…fresh tomato slices freash basil & mozzarella…to die for
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Cristo
September 18th, 2009
11:26 pm
Madras Grill, near north Dekalb Mall. It’s as good, if not better, than Zyka, and they show Bollywood movies during dinner.
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Cristo
September 18th, 2009
11:33 pm
I agree with Dave that Fellini’s slices are OK, but the whole pizza is awful. Besides Fellini’s, I like Meredith’s list. I’d add Shorty’s and Max’s.
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BuckheadBob
September 19th, 2009
1:02 pm
I’ll buy any New Yorker pizza who agrees to stop talking about New York. If it is so much better there why are you here? Either it is actually better in Atlanta or you are too much of a loser to stay in New York (if it is the better place).
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Chocolate Habenero
September 19th, 2009
4:10 pm
Is Willie really coming? I can’t believe my luck! Count me in for a hundred tickets, I’ve wanted his autograph for years! WooHoo!!
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YAD
September 19th, 2009
6:46 pm
I owe a great deal of the success in my career to my mother. I hope my children will one day say the same about me.
I can’t wait to get their new cookbook!
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cartermaxmason
September 20th, 2009
8:50 am
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Varasano’s Pizza….Simply the Best in Atlanta!!!
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TC
September 20th, 2009
8:54 am
Napoli’s in Flowery Branch is the best I’ve had in Atlanta.
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TJ
September 20th, 2009
8:58 am
Everybody’s Pizza in Virginia-Highlands has the best and freshest ingredients, from the sauce to the cheese to the toppings!
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Terry
September 20th, 2009
8:59 am
Enter your comments here The Mellow Mushroom on Livsta my favorit for pizza, try the avocado sub with bacon for a change.
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sheesh
September 20th, 2009
9:00 am
Bambinellis around Northlake best meatball pie in town. BTW I ain’t from NYC but you guys that think pizza is just pizza really have not had good pizza yet. “Pizza is the food of the gods”. Also having been up to NYC for more than a few times , the pizza up there has the same problem as the BBQ places here. The good ones are becoming harder to find.
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Karen
September 20th, 2009
9:03 am
BIG PIE IN THE SKY, is my personal favorite. As a former Bostonian who grew up bordering Little Italy I grew up on real Italian Pizza and Big Pie Delivers. For a real treat come to Cobb County and taste the real deal.
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Native CJ
September 20th, 2009
9:08 am
I have been to 49 states and have found great pizza everywhere, including Atlanta. I have always found an excellent slice anytime I want it here. Camelli’s, Rosa’s, Fritti, all excellent. I have been to New York a hundred times for work and with my eyes closed, I wouldnt know the difference between a ‘New York’ slice and one from the places above. I’m no ingredient expert, but I am pretty sure you can get the same ingredients to make ‘authentic’ pizza in Atlanta, as you can in New York….By the way Chicago pizza is the terrible. Who wants to eat a pizza 2.5 inches thick? The last ime I was there for work, a co-worker stated “you are about to taste ‘real’ thin pizza.” I swear it was Digiorno think crust pizza cut into squares. Squares???
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Old Forge, PA
September 20th, 2009
9:10 am
Since we are talking ATL Pizza and not NEPA; I would go with Galla’s on Peachtree in the Chamblee/Brookhaven area.
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SK
September 20th, 2009
9:14 am
Shout out to the pizza joint in East Atlanta Village
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scott
September 20th, 2009
9:14 am
Enter your comments hereThe Monkey Barrel just off the square in Gainesville makes a great pizza
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hershey
September 20th, 2009
9:22 am
Il Fornos in lawrencevillre at five forks is agreat little pizza cafe. calizone is wondrful but its fun to watch Jack the cook toss pies when he is working. Todd and Donna the owners always have a friendly greet. Very good food.
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tim
September 20th, 2009
9:26 am
Rosa’s is ok……..nice thin crust, somewhat different tasting sauce, but what’s up with all the grease??
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L
September 20th, 2009
9:27 am
Swapna Swapna Swapna
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L
September 20th, 2009
9:27 am
Bhojanic in Decatur is also good.
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Road Scholar
September 20th, 2009
9:27 am
Heyjude: I agree. The masses have missed a long time pizza restaurant in Everybody’s! Since 1970, we’ve been going to both locations at Emory and Va-Highland. My niece and her family relocated from Baltimore 2 yrs ago and lamented that there was not a good pizza place here….until we took them to Everybody’s! Now we take them there for their monthly fix!
The lunch special (personal pizza, and drink for $6-7) is a great deal unless you want a major chow down. The Italian sausage is the best in ATL, except for E 48th Street Market’s in Dunwoody. Salads are huge also. Try their homemade Parmessan dressing. YUM!
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Chappy
September 20th, 2009
9:27 am
Grant Park on Cherokee for slices (add the roasted garlic), Everybody’s at Emory for the whole pie.
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testingtesting
September 20th, 2009
9:35 am
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Best “deep dish/Chicago style pizza” is Pies On Pizza with locations in Fayeteville and Lovejoy (the Greek Salad is pretty awesome too!!!)
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Wally
September 20th, 2009
9:36 am
Out here in the ‘burbs it’s hard to beat Mellow Mushroom at both of their locations on 141. In addition, I recently had a pie from Murray’s in a Hurry on P’Tree Industrial and, for the money, it was surprisingly good.
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ajclover
September 20th, 2009
9:42 am
Best pizza in town is the combo at Costco. $1.99 a slice.
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Bob
September 20th, 2009
9:42 am
After 30 years, I moved my pizza restaurant from lower Manhattan to north Atlanta. Backed up a truck and loaded everything, including ingredients, supplies, ovens–even a large supply of New York water (as NY water has always been viewed as a secret ingredient that makes New York pizza what it is). When I opened my restaurant here, I made the pizza the same, using the same ovens, etc. Guess what! Transplanted New Yorkers would say it was good, but not as good as New York pizza. Then I would tell them my story.
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Melanie
September 20th, 2009
9:53 am
I have to say that this family is the real deal. Paula Deen is true to her word & as far as I can tell,she has not changed one bit. She came from hard knocks & she never gave up..that is what I love about her. Is she perfect, no, but she struggled; nothing given to her like the other so called chefs they keep showing on food network. Her sons are just as hard working as she is; so what if they are riding her coat tails; I bet if you were as successful as she, you would be right behind your Momma too! You go Paula & you keep gong Jamie & Bobby!!! True southern people!!
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earldaddy
September 20th, 2009
10:04 am
Nancy’s deep dish Chicago style. Buckhead and midtown both!
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earldaddy
September 20th, 2009
10:05 am
The best value in town is indeed Costco’s pizza. A whole pizza for 10 bucks!
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Becks
September 20th, 2009
10:10 am
When the AJC is not stealing articles from every other metro paper, they’re begging for comments. At least 2 times a week when i’m reading it, i find some typo, and i’m not even that smart. I don’t look for them, they are just so obvious. I usd to love the ajc but it has turned into a total piece of crap.
Oh and i love Pizza btw
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Jiwah
September 20th, 2009
10:18 am
Enter your comments here MO’s Pizza off Clairmont and Braircliff has been the best for years. I stop by every time I’m in town.
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Murkeey
September 20th, 2009
10:24 am
I don’t have to be from New York or Chicago (I’m from the deep south) to know that Fellini’s is the worst. Cardboard pizza.
Nancy’s deep dish pizza is wonderful. Pizza Fusion, the new restaurant, if you like whole wheat or gluten free.
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dawgh8er4ever
September 20th, 2009
10:26 am
Dino’s Pizza on the corner of Hamilton Mill/Ridge Rd on the Kroger shopping center…fresh dough flown in from Brooklyn NY daily, absolutely the best sausage pizza in this area…the garlic knots are killer too!!!
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dawgh8er4ever
September 20th, 2009
10:29 am
here is Dino’s in Buford GA website…http://www.pizzadinos.com/
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Figgymama
September 20th, 2009
10:36 am
No doubt, Blue Moon Pizza in the West Village, Smyrna is the best I’ve had in Atlanta. Their garlic rolls are to die for as well!
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david c
September 20th, 2009
10:37 am
COSMO’S on the Square in Lawrenceville!
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DizzyDan
September 20th, 2009
10:38 am
Cosmos Little Italy in L’ville is always awesome as many of us from NYC and Chicago can finally agree. Gotta try it.
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Petunia
September 20th, 2009
10:40 am
The Bumper Snicker: If you like New York pizza, take Interstate 95 north. I guess Chicago would be I-75.
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Chris
September 20th, 2009
10:41 am
Definitely Enzo’s in Tucker!
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LovesToCook
September 20th, 2009
10:42 am
I grew up in Augusta in the 60s and 70s, and to me, Paula Deen represents the good ol’ gal persona I grew to know and love. She was the woman who taught me Sunday school, or who talked to me in line at the grocery store about fried okra. She was the librarian who helped me find just the right book to read on a hot summer day. Or, if I was lucky, she invited me to her home to eat absolutely delicious traditional Southern food. I love Paula’s cooking, but in her personality I recognize many of the Southern women of my childhood, who were funny, nurturing, smart, and sassy. I miss them all.
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Staceys30092
September 20th, 2009
10:42 am
A native from the Tri-States… Hands down Rudy’s New York Pizza in Duluth on Old Norcross Road has the BEST PIZZA!!!
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Jason
September 20th, 2009
10:43 am
Verra Zanno’s in Johns Creek. Best pizza and strombolis (rolls) in town!
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Shelly
September 20th, 2009
10:45 am
Nancy’s is pretty good. I don’t understand why everyone raves about Fritti’s?! I went with a large group and we shared multiple pizzas – they were all slightly overdone with the toppings sparsely applied. It seems more like a status restaurant than a place with good pizza. I’ve had better pizza at California Pizza Kitchen and that’s sad.
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Judy
September 20th, 2009
10:47 am
I’m with heyjude – Everybody’s Pizza has always been my favorite.
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Deb
September 20th, 2009
10:51 am
you missed Varasano’s. If you haven’t been there yet, you need to go. They have hands down the best pizza I’ve ever tasted
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kristin
September 20th, 2009
10:56 am
Felini’s sucks!!! One of the best pizza places that I have found in Metro Atlanta has to be Baby Tomm’y’s in Marietta. You can order by the slice, however they do not have rice balls. Cannot seem to find a pizza place in the south that has rice balls.
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GLENN
September 20th, 2009
11:02 am
Zpizza in the Alpharetta area has the most tasty and creative pizza around. It’s available as slices and they make combos where you can match a slice with a salad or soup if you want.
Tin crust that is super crispy,yummy yummy.
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Mike
September 20th, 2009
11:03 am
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I agree with Enzo’s and Shorty’s!!! Let’s not forget about Bambinelli’s in Tucker too!!! YUM
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Loh
September 20th, 2009
11:05 am
I don’t really get the rave about Fritti. Went there and the pizza was less than desirable. Soggy crust and sparse toppings. Mellow Mushroom is too doughy. Guess I just don’t like “Southern pizza” as that’s their claim to fame. Will have to try the ones that have been mentioned by other posters. Looking for the thin, crispy crust.
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Courtney
September 20th, 2009
11:06 am
Anything in Atlanta beats what I had in New York once. Besides Calzones are better than pizza any ways.
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Marc
September 20th, 2009
11:06 am
h8newyorkers than bar-b-que is about what you get out of the meat section at Krogers in one of those plastic tubs!
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shhhh
September 20th, 2009
11:06 am
kristin I don’t know if they are any good but you can find rice balls at Buckhead Italian Market Deli on Roswell rd.
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david
September 20th, 2009
11:09 am
Taste of Italy in Woodstock. You know when a plain cheese pizza has excellent flavor, the fresh toppings are just a bonus. These people are true Italians who came here from southern Italy and barely speak our language, but wow, the pizza!
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TN Vol
September 20th, 2009
11:23 am
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Big Ed’s Pizza Oak Ridge Tn. 200 miles away but worth the drive.
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Brent
September 20th, 2009
11:30 am
Galla’s Pizza 2 locations Peachtree Ind (Chamblee) and Johnson Ferry Rd (Marietta) http://gallaspizza.com/
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Nat
September 20th, 2009
11:33 am
Pizza Bar off Veteran’s Memorial!!!!!
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Sunny
September 20th, 2009
11:36 am
SLICE-O-RAMA on Hwy. 78 in Stone Mountain in front of the Lowe’s shopping center has the best NY style slices I have had! And on Thursdays, you can get cheese slices for a buck.
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SusanC
September 20th, 2009
11:41 am
Nothing beats Cosmos Little Italy in Lawrenceville and even if it wasn’t the best pizza around, it would still be worth the trip just for the experience of seeing Cosmo and his wife. I’ll admit that I’m just a little bit scared every time I go up to place my order! …NO PIZZA FOR YOU!
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Needapizza
September 20th, 2009
11:44 am
Vinny’s pizza in Roswell and Duluth is terrific. Try it!
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Bo Diddly Squat
September 20th, 2009
11:51 am
You haven’t had pizza until you’ve gone to Fini’s in Lawrenceville. By the slice, or by the pie. Other than Imo’s in St. Louis, the best I’ve ever had.
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Pizzalover
September 20th, 2009
11:51 am
Bambanelli’s in Norcross and Tucker!
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Tech82
September 20th, 2009
11:52 am
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned Blue Moon Pizza on Windy Hill Road. Great value and GREAT pizza.
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G
September 20th, 2009
11:53 am
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Himalayas is the best I’ve had so far. Can’t wait to try some of the others recommended here!
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Bumpkin from Lumpkin
September 20th, 2009
11:57 am
Love those Totino’s Party pizzas…that and a 6-pack of Milwaukee’s Best and I’m set…..mmmmmm…mmmmmmmm…
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Behind_Phipps
September 20th, 2009
11:59 am
Ellwoods Pizza in Brookhaven is unbelievable, especially their thick crust.
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M' (Casper)
September 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
Savage and Azio’s…I love brick oven crust pizzas
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smitty
September 20th, 2009
12:04 pm
Rosa’s is the BEST I’ve had so far.
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Best of the best
September 20th, 2009
12:06 pm
Avondale Pizza Cafe – hands down! Fresh and tasty. The garlic pretzels are to die for.
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Brock
September 20th, 2009
12:06 pm
oz is in east point not college park.
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blackprix
September 20th, 2009
12:08 pm
DaVinci’s in Smyrna — very good pizza!
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Steve
September 20th, 2009
12:10 pm
Bella’s. South Atlanta rd
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Jason
September 20th, 2009
12:10 pm
Nobody has mentioned it yet, but I’ll vote for NY Pizzeria on Chamblee Tucker Road inside 285. Great New York style pies, with no frills. Great place.
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JS
September 20th, 2009
12:15 pm
Vingenzo’s in Woodstock!
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romey
September 20th, 2009
12:21 pm
Enter your comments here Can someone tell my why New Yorkers have to say, “I;m from NY and…..”? Why does that make them an authority on pizza? New Yorkers claim New York pizza is the best. Thanks for your opinion. So this topic is “Best Pizza,” not “Pizza that tastes most like New York Pizza.”
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TJB
September 20th, 2009
12:23 pm
Enzo’s in Tucker is awesome! Great pizza, huge calzones, and good salads. If you are from up north, you’ll be happy to know they serve birch beer along as well as red cream soda.
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TJB
September 20th, 2009
12:25 pm
Forgot to mention the others I like: Galla’s in Chamblee, Stone Mountain Pizza Cafe on 78 and Camelli’s on Ponce.
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MaloneyMommy
September 20th, 2009
12:29 pm
Savage Pizza in L5P is the best I’ve ever had in Atlanta…their Mai Pie is TO DIE FOR…I still get my husband to pick it up and bring one to Cumming when he is back in our old ‘hood!!
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Paul From Milton
September 20th, 2009
12:32 pm
Please spare us the “as a New Yorker I know pizza better than anyone else” BS. Some of the worst pizza I have had has been there so just because you are from New York gives you no more authority to speak on pizza than anyone else, despite what your arrogance makes you believe.
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Drew
September 20th, 2009
12:36 pm
Villa Vino on Roswell Road next door to Genki is the best pizza around!
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donna
September 20th, 2009
12:45 pm
No Pizza in Georgia compares to LaBella’s in Marietta off Sandy Plains. Rick the owner has been making pizza since he was 14 yrs old on Long Island. Nobody but a New Yorker can make a good pizza. Rick and his son make the best pizza this side of the Dixie Mason line!!!! Don’t even bother to try any other pizza until you have tried LaBella’s, then your opinion will count!!!
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donna
September 20th, 2009
12:51 pm
Lets see those of you who think New Yorkers don’t know about Pizza its clear you have NEVER BEEN OR EATEN A NEW YORK PIZZA!!!! Chicago comes close also. But you people in the South have no idea what good food other then southern fried is!!!!! Lets talk bagels??? Ok?? Need I say more?? Not one person in Georgia or from the south has a clue what good pizza is!! Take a trip to New York go to Brooklyn and eat the pizza then come home and tell us that Georgia Pizza is good!!!!
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dimples
September 20th, 2009
12:53 pm
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Blue Moon Pizza is located in Smyrna off South Atlanta Road AND Windy Hill Road. The classic pizza and greek salad are the best! Great food and atmosphere!
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The Painful Truth
September 20th, 2009
12:55 pm
I am not from New York, but I know enough to know that Fellini’s and Mellow Mushroom do NOT belong on this list.
Their “pizza” is a pi-zza-crap!
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romey
September 20th, 2009
1:02 pm
I’m from Italy and New York pizza sucks
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donna
September 20th, 2009
1:03 pm
BUCKHEAD BOB…Would love to change that first part of your name to you know what….Being from New York and now living here is only because my husband was transferred by his job. We pay your taxes and have to put up with TERRIBLE EDUCATION!!!! The education is so bad that the administrator’s had to cheat to have the school pass so its not rated an F!!! I’ll take the education up north any day compared to here in the south. Lets see the teacher’s can’t pass the test so the school board lower the standards and who gets hurt for that, the children. Lets make sure the football players all pass even though they can’t read or write!!! Give me a break you hate New Yorkers….I have lived here for one year and have yet to come across anyone person who would be a friend. Talk about “Southern Hospitality” Sure as long as the person is born and breed in the south!! I have yet to meet one Southern who has taken the time to get to know who I am and I consider it to be their lose!!!! At least New Yorkers are real and not that fake like the South!!! And this goes out to all of you who think New Yorkers should go home. We bring alittle Northern Class to your Southern Fakeness!!!
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Marsha
September 20th, 2009
1:07 pm
Oh my! You missed the best–Vintage Pizza in Historic Chamblee. We love this place…consistently great pizza!
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Hop Scotch
September 20th, 2009
1:26 pm
Any of the Indian restaurants located at the food court in the Global Mall – Norcross
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namaste
September 20th, 2009
1:55 pm
Ashiana is good they just need to switch up there selection every now and then
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BOBOSAV
September 20th, 2009
2:15 pm
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I am lifelong Savannah guy about same age as the Deen boys….growing up (late teens-early twenties)would see them around town and remember their early days. The written details of Paula and boys beginnings in the business are right on. They were both hardworking, pleasant, and to this day remain nice and approachable. These two also played a big part in the creation and eventual success of the Lady and Sons. Obviously Paula has made it to the big time now and they have their own smaller fame and celebrity, but they have worked for and deserve all benefits ($$$) that come to them now.
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Mukhi Saheb
September 20th, 2009
2:57 pm
My Mosque and I promote Zyka. We firmly ascertain that Zyka is the Best Indian Restaurant in town, HANDS DOWN! I am not saying this because I am a part owner either.
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Reggie Ball
September 20th, 2009
3:06 pm
Not everyone can be a STAR like me.
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Richard
September 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
For me, it’s Rosa’s (Downtown) hands down!
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Richard
September 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
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RAGMAN
September 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
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Fat Richard, you are nasty!!!! Whatever you had in your mouth should stay in your mouth. No one want’s to hear it.
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KennesawDave
September 20th, 2009
5:45 pm
A 7lb. burrito in 15 minutes??? By any chance do they pick up the tab for the abulance ride and medical bills afterwards? Yikes! The other 2 contests don’t sound too bad though.
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Island Dawg
September 20th, 2009
6:00 pm
Who cares if they’re gay, great cooks, whatever? They have gotten it done and from all I can tell are great guys. Paula’s 1st cousin was my flight instructor and I remember her as a bank teller at the T in Albany. They are all great ambassadors of Southern grace, charm and good cooking. All the best here.
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Anita
September 20th, 2009
7:01 pm
Zyka and some dishes at Mughals…
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Robert
September 20th, 2009
7:04 pm
mford
September 18th, 2009
3:12 pm
The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.
Meredith Ford Goldman, YOU are the one that brought up the “hotness” issue: the very title of your blog entry includes “yes, they’re that cute” which obviously relates to sexual attraction, not “hot recipes.” Then you turn around and try to quash questions of orientation (which is relevant to both straight women and gay men who “MIGHT” be interested in their cuteness/hotness factor). I thought this was 2009, not 1949.
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MarrG
September 20th, 2009
7:09 pm
Savage Savage Savage Savage Savage Savage Savage
Seriously, I have friends in the suburbs who demand Savage when they visit ITP. And I am happy to accommodate.
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Robert
September 20th, 2009
7:10 pm
By the way, I went to the Lady and Sons restaurant in 2008, I was not impressed by the food…it was little more than a buffet. The chicken wasn’t particularly crispy. There was also a fake “wait line” but when I got to the third floor, several seats were available (does having a “line” make people feel like “yay, I got in, I’m special” and “it must be really good for so many people to be waiting”? This “success” story only shows the power of the Food Network and our “celebrity” culture. The Deens may not be “bad” people, but I’m not sure if the level of glorification they’ve received is in fact deserved. Their food was OK, but not “to die for.”
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Sam
September 20th, 2009
7:11 pm
Enter your comments here Pies on Pizza in Lovejoy and Fayetteville is very good. Terrific crust. Gotta try it.
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kristin
September 20th, 2009
7:17 pm
Who cares where anybody is from!!!!!!!!!! Jeees Donna as fellow native New Yorker you need to lighten up! Yes there are bad schools in Metro Atlanta – but there are also some of the best (East Cobb) And you know what it, it is the exact same way in New york. I have made some great friends in the 10 years that I have lived here. You know the saying – Delta is ready when you are!!
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debi c
September 20th, 2009
7:49 pm
St. Angelos in Smyrna.. try it…
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Raylene
September 20th, 2009
7:51 pm
I’m from Boston and I don’t give a rip what anyone from NY or Chicago says because everybody with an ounce of intelligence KNOWS that Boston pizza is the best.
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S Patrick
September 20th, 2009
7:52 pm
Oh yeah – Everybody’s is just the cat’s pajamas when it comes to pizza. Consistently good for what seems like forever.
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nicole
September 20th, 2009
7:59 pm
Haven’t tried Cosmo’s but will. Traditions in Duluth is a great alternative to Gaby’s in Queens.
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oledawg
September 20th, 2009
8:01 pm
Don’t let Bobby’s smile fool you——–he’s snotty to all he doesn’t know. Jamie seems like the real deal. If I could buy Bobby for what he’s worth-and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth——-I’d never have to work another day in this or the next life. He HAS forgotten where he came from—if you can’t help him—he wants no part of you.
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glenn campagna
September 20th, 2009
8:01 pm
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after i got a rave review from a friend, i went to varasanos this weekend. it was mediocre at best. there is not a single place in atlanta that has really great pizza, sorry. i wish we did. i think i have hit most of the recommended spots and none of them get it right.
it should also be noted that people who really know pizza know that connecticut is where the best pizza is from, NOT new york. many new yorkers who know, regularly leave the city to new haven for pepi’s and sally’s which both beat just about every place in new york. pepi’s and sally’s are great but luna’s in hartford and avon (central ct) is the best anywhere. harry’s and first and last tavern along with a few others are better than anything in new york and make anything in atlanta a sad joke.
it is unfortunate that no one has ventured down from ct with the best to be shared here.
don’t even get me started about deli’s and pastrami.
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Rocky
September 20th, 2009
8:01 pm
It looks like the correct link for Field of Greens is this: http://www.fieldofgreensfestival.com/
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Don Vito Corleone
September 20th, 2009
8:02 pm
Atlanta hasn’t had good pizza since Rocky’s on Peachtree shut it doors due to the death of its owner, Bob Russo. Just isn’t the same.
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MrsBanks
September 20th, 2009
8:05 pm
Pepperoni’s in Duluth is the best!!!
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Joey Zazza
September 20th, 2009
8:06 pm
LaBella’s in Marietta near Sprayberry High is as close to authentic NY pizza as it gets in metro Atlanta ! The garlic knots are to die for. Everything is home made & they even import their sausage
from New Jersey. Rick is from Long Island and knows what he’s doing !
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Nikki
September 20th, 2009
8:10 pm
Athens express on Clairmont Road in Decatur. Nancy’s in Buckhead. And if you’re ever in Kansas City, head straight to MINSKY’S!!!
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KC
September 20th, 2009
8:13 pm
OZ PIZZA in Fairburn! Absolutely the best!!!!
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Alex
September 20th, 2009
8:16 pm
Why do these things always result in someone telling someone else to move back to where they came from? Just because they miss a certain something…whether it’s pizza, ice cream, hamburgers, whatever. Quit being such a snot (you know who you are), and appreciate (and maybe try) what they are suggesting. If you “Buckhead Bob” moved to NYC, I guarantee you’d be bitching about something not being like it was in Atlanta.
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Tim in Stockbridge
September 20th, 2009
8:29 pm
I’m from Georgia and my wife is from the Bronx–the pizza in New York is overrated! I hear that Chicago has the best pizza.
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Jack Schitt
September 20th, 2009
8:34 pm
Is it really success when you ride in your mommy’s apron pouch? I don’t think so…both would be waiters at Denny’s without Paula. Who really gives a flying “chicken pluck” about the Deen boys? Paula appears to be genuine and honest…but again that and $5 will get you a large coffee at Starbucks. Now you can say you know Jack Schitt.
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Richard Bagge
September 20th, 2009
8:35 pm
1. Varasano’s
2. Everybody’s
3. Fritti
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Alex
September 20th, 2009
8:36 pm
Geez Donna, got a bit of a wall up? I no longer live in my beloved city of Atlanta, but since the Olympics and quite a bit before that, it became harder and harder to find anyone actually from there. The term “Southern Hospitality” is something everyone should practice, not just southerners. Be gracious yourself, act like a “southerner”, take the time to get to know someone else instead of putting the burden on them first, and you might be surprised what happens. I lived in NYC as well, and as soon as I quit approaching everyone like I thought a New Yorker was going to act (rude, brash), it was a much more positive experience. Twenty-five years later, I’m still in touch with my old neighbors!
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Jon Heisman
September 20th, 2009
9:11 pm
You are missing Bambinelli’s in Northlake.
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Jesse
September 20th, 2009
9:19 pm
I can’t believe you even gave Varasano’s an honorable mention. Their pizza is disgusting and the service is terrible.
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Native
September 20th, 2009
9:34 pm
Pepperoni’s in Duluth….in the Publix shopping center at Buford Hwy and Old Ptree. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Roswell misses Zappoli's
September 20th, 2009
9:36 pm
I need to find another good pizza place in Roswell. I used to go to Zappolli’s on Crabapple, but since they closed down (2 years ago) I haven’t had a decent pizza. Any Roswellians know of any?
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Nobody reads long posts
September 20th, 2009
9:47 pm
I liked Fellini’s, a long time ago, before I worked for them for just a little while. We like IDA’S PIZZA in Duluth.
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AH
September 20th, 2009
9:52 pm
The best pizza I have found in the state of Georgia can be had at the Lamplighter Pub in Tifton, GA.
None better. Get the “Stallion” and you won’t regret it.
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mwcotton
September 20th, 2009
9:56 pm
bibas lawrencevile
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Long Island Ray
September 20th, 2009
9:57 pm
Bellas on Atl road has very good meatballs, try the MB pie. Fellini’s must get pizza with sausage or just get a Calazone with sausage. My search for a great plain slice outside NY continues
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stacy mcbride
September 20th, 2009
10:06 pm
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I have never met them in person but i think that it is nice that they starting from the bottom and still are humble from what i here from friends of minds that met them in person.
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don harris
September 20th, 2009
10:29 pm
Enter your comments here: People are passionate about their pizza. I wish someone would choose a re-do on this important subject. People want to know where to get a fabulous pie, including me. My hopes were dashed.
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jess
September 20th, 2009
10:37 pm
Capozzi’s in Marietta, Hwy 120 ( Roswell Rd)
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db
September 20th, 2009
10:37 pm
Little Ceasar’s in Forest Park. The best pizza EVER and its only 5 bucks!
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Joe Z
September 20th, 2009
10:47 pm
Carmines Pizza in Johns Creek and Alpharetta
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time for a slice
September 20th, 2009
11:01 pm
I can’t claim to have tried every pizza place in the Atlanta metro area, like so many respondents seem to have (how do you people have so much time to devote to pizza sampling and driving between restaurants?). Really, how can you say that some place is the “best by far” unless you’ve personally sampled every place at least once? However, of Mellow Mushroom (several locations), Fellini’s (three locations), Everybody’s (Emory) and Rosa’s (downtown), Rosa’s is my favorite by far. Great crust. Try your slice without additional toppings and you’ll not find it too greasy (that goes for any pizza, of course). Rosa’s is at, or above, the average that I could find on Lawn Guyland (L.I.), Brooklyn, or Manhattan (and in these locations I’ve tried dozens of places).
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Jen
September 20th, 2009
11:03 pm
Ippolito’s makes a GREAT pizza!
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alan
September 20th, 2009
11:09 pm
The best pizza around Atlanta is Big Pie in the Sky in Kennesaw. without a doubt. I not talking brick oven or loaded with everything in creation, but the best honest NY style pizza.
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Kat
September 20th, 2009
11:13 pm
Becks: I’m an editor, and I let the average “typo” go. Try it! Your life will be much more pleasant!
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Luvstoread
September 20th, 2009
11:20 pm
My favorite used to be Pizzaria Uno until they closed down. For the best ever, I would say Beau Jo’s in Colorado. Here in Atlanta, I would say Savage, Rosa’s, or Everybody’s. And, I actually prefer Chicago pizza over New York style.
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Erin C
September 20th, 2009
11:20 pm
When my dad was at Emory for 7 months last year, Everybody’s was a great haven away from the cafeteria, not only for its fun atmosphere and fantastic patio, but their pizza is delish. Their sandwiches are out of this world too!!! I suggest the chicken and cheese pizza with their homemade garlic ranch dip.
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Ippolito's (6 great locations)
September 20th, 2009
11:32 pm
EAT @ IPPS!!!!
The Best Pizza “OTP” (6 Great Locations)
Suwanee, Norcross, Roswell, Sandy Springs, Alpharetta,
& Kennesaw.
Definitely New York Style. Damn Good
Consistent everytime!!! While you’re there
try the Famous Garlic Rolls…,
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Pizza Love
September 20th, 2009
11:54 pm
Gala’s Pizza is the bomb!
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B-Real
September 20th, 2009
11:55 pm
PIZZA BAR on Veterans Memorial…hands down is the best in ATL!!!!!! I thought I was in Times Square!
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Foodie
September 21st, 2009
12:07 am
I love Ippolito’s! The pasta salad is TO DIE FOR! But the pizza is good too.
I love VInnie Van GoGo’s in Savannah….brings back some good old memories
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Stranger...
September 21st, 2009
12:47 am
MJ Pippins — just go down North Avenue next to Tech about 20 years ago or so… Yum!
To Roswell… and anyone else, check out Vic’s NY Style Pizza in Duluth. Maybe a little bit of a drive, but I doubt you’ll be disappointed. (The garlic puffs are da bomb.)
http://www.vicspizzaplace.com
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pizzagraver
September 21st, 2009
1:05 am
Bambinelli’s is the place for Atlanta pizza. Granted haven’t tried Rosas or Cosmos yet guess will have to give them a try. Have however gone to about 90% of the other places mentioned. The thing that people don’t seem to realize is that water and altitude plays a big part in any of the bread products. People tend to like what they are used to that is why we all have differant opinions. Ask this same question in NY and you will get even more heated opinions. Carry-on cause it is fun.
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Howie Lover!
September 21st, 2009
2:45 am
HUNGRY HOWIES in LILBURN on Beaver Ruin Rd!! OMG! Not everyone can drive in town to try the other places, but I guarantee you will be very satisfied once you try Hungry Howies Flavored Crust pizza! Their butter cheese and garlic herb crusts are to die for!
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patnvicky
September 21st, 2009
4:16 am
Definitely Vingenzo’s in Woodstock – they also travel to Italy to source premium ingredients, and have the best authentic Neapolitan pizza in the north suburbs if not the state! Great salads and hand-made pasta as well, and fabulous freindly employees.
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Suzanne
September 21st, 2009
7:04 am
Himalayas is great!
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Scratchy225
September 21st, 2009
8:56 am
I lived in NJ for 35 years so grew up eating great pizza. When we moved to ATL in 1995, we searched high and low trying to find any pizza that would be comparable to NJ/NY-style pizza. Mellow Mushroom, no. Rosa’s, no. Fellini’s, no. Varasano’s, no… The best pizza joint north of I-20 is Mama’s Pizza in Alpharetta on Old Milton Pkwy. Consistently great pizza, calzones and salads at reasonable prices… and the owner and servers couldn’t be nicer!
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Becky
September 21st, 2009
9:02 am
Been to New York and if the pizza that we had there is what people think is the best, you can keep it..It wasn’t any better than frozen..
As for good pizza here, I’ll stick with Azio’s..St Angelo’s is also good and you can get slices on their lunch specials..
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Becky
September 21st, 2009
9:06 am
Oh Donna,I was born and raised here, so either you haven’t met the right people or it could be you..If you are in person the way that you sound from your post, guess that’s why you haven’t met anyone nice..Look in the mirror honey..
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cjamesatl
September 21st, 2009
9:12 am
Rosa’s is THE best. Hands down. It’s authentic NYC style pizza, made just like mama would have made when she stepped off the boat at Ellis Island. The only downside is that Rosa’s is closed on the weekend. Sigh.
If you want a more traditional pizza, Fritti IS the place. They serve pizza the way it was originally made by Italians, thin crust, without excessive cheese or toppings. It has not been ‘Americanized’ (yet).
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Becky
September 21st, 2009
9:21 am
Who cares if they were only “discovered” because of their mother? It seems that they have made it on their own after being discovered..Someone at the FNW channel thought they had enough talent or charm to put them on TV, so why does everyone make such a big deal out of it? Maybe it’s envy that you weren’t discorvered because of your mom?
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MORTtheTORT
September 21st, 2009
10:11 am
Stone Mountain Pizza Cafe off of 78…DA BOMB…plus great beer
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Reggie Reg
September 21st, 2009
10:15 am
Nancy’s in Buckhead hs the best deep dish. I still can’t find a good thin crust. Fellini’s is a joke..Johnny’s is okay. I still can’t believe no one here uses turkey italian sausage on their thin crust pizzas. Reggio’s in Chicago has by far the best thin crust pizza on earth, and yes it’s cut in squares, but my belly doesn’t know the difference.
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mford
September 21st, 2009
10:40 am
Robert: “Hotness” has nothing to do with whether you are gay or not — again, the post is about the Deen brothers, not sexual orientation
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JKS
September 21st, 2009
11:16 am
Camelli’s in the Ford Factory Lofts. The Monster Slice is the best. Good beer selection, too.
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GPlover
September 21st, 2009
1:35 pm
Grant Central in Grant Park has delicious pizza. Thin but tasty with fresh toppings. Try dipping the crust in a little of your leftover vinaigrette dressing. Good stuff.
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Brian
September 21st, 2009
1:50 pm
First off, while New York does have great pizza, it doesn’t make any New Yorker a pizza expert, and there are plenty of good slices in Atlanta (I’ve tasted lots of New York and lots of Atlanta and can speak from experience). My favs in Atlanta are Camelli’s (on ponce/midtown) and Baronda (don’t think they sell by the slice thought). I’ve tried the pies in Napoli, Italy, and Baronda is the closest I’ve had state-side, and in my opinion, blows Fritti out of the water.
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Kate H.
September 21st, 2009
1:51 pm
Christo’s Pizza off of Delk Rd. The best pizza in town – hands down!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
2:29 pm
Ok, so all of you are wrong. Especially Meredith. Try Blue Moon Pizza, Pepperoni’s in Duluth, Bella’s in Marietta, and I like Z’s Pizza in Midtown. Fritti definitely deserves to be on the list, but the others I can do without. Don’t even try to mention Fellini’s unless you’re talking about their salad. The pizza is subpar. As for the people talking about Pizza Fusion….ha. Try Z Pizza instead.
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yolanda
September 21st, 2009
2:30 pm
It’s a tie between Oz Pizza in East Point and Johnny’s Pizza off og GA 124. Love them both equally!! The best!!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
2:30 pm
OH yeah, forgot Mello Mushroom.
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notabuckheadbetty
September 21st, 2009
2:35 pm
Pizzeria Venti off Lenox Road, in the old Cedars location — tried them when they were giving away a free slice on Labor Day and they are hands-down my favorite pizza in town. The crust is perfectly baked and crispy!!!
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yolanda
September 21st, 2009
2:36 pm
Can I add the “white pizza” at Johnny’s Pizza off of GA 124 is like heaven!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
2:46 pm
Ok, I concede. Cici’s is the best pizza I’ve ever had. Although it’s a little pricey, you can’t beat the desert (dessert ? — I can never figure out the spelling) pizza.
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Wallflower
September 21st, 2009
2:53 pm
There is really only one pizza worth breaking my diet for and that’s Uncle Vito’s NY Pizza. It is TRULY NY and Italian tasting. Actually, i think it’s better than the slice i had last time i was in NY. Xtra large.. $13. Awesome.
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red jacket
September 21st, 2009
3:11 pm
Shorty’s is the bomb!! No comparison.
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bob
September 21st, 2009
3:14 pm
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I gave up looking for the best ten years ago.
I make everything myself;dough,sauce,and I season the so called Italian sausage to my taste.If It does not come out to my satisfaction I will make a change the following week.Its a lot cheaper and more fun than driving around for the best only to be dissapointed.
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Atlantan
September 21st, 2009
3:15 pm
Sad to see all these places close up – the Obama recession is claiming many victims. Across the board tax cuts – capital gains and income work every time to turn around economies. Hate to see the same mistakes committed in the 1930’s being repeated – see the latest starting a trade war with China. There will be many more behind Roy’s.
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Matt Smith
September 21st, 2009
3:34 pm
Buckhead Pizza Co. is the bomb
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Jolly
September 21st, 2009
3:36 pm
Having grown up in and around NYC, now living in the ATL for over 20 years, I’ve come across only one slice of pizza down here that I would confuse with real NY pizza and that is Cosmo’s in Lawrenceville. I live no where near L’ville, but just happened upon it one day while doing business in the area. I’ve probably been to about 50 different pizza joints in the ATL and while there are good ones all around only Cosmo’s really stuck out to me.
BTW Donna, maybe you have to look in the mirror to find your real issue with Southerners. Just some advice…Lighten up and the world will lighten up with you.
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A W in Atlanta
September 21st, 2009
4:08 pm
Oz Pizza in East Point/College Park definitely has the best pizza!
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pafos
September 21st, 2009
4:14 pm
Bellacino’s pizza in Marietta, east Cobb. Authenic – has Chicago style taste.
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Jami
September 21st, 2009
4:24 pm
I went to Zucca’s over the weekend and ordered a “Victory” personal pie not anything to rave about.There was NO cheese evenly spread on the pizza, just one blob in the middle of each slice,the sauce was was not thick enough you bit into the slice and it just dripped down, the pizza lacked flavor.Expected more for the price,could have bought TWO large pizza’s from Papa Johns, and would have tasted better!
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jrhd
September 21st, 2009
5:07 pm
Mambo Italiano, Fini’s, Olde Towne Tavern (shocking!)…all good pie.
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jay
September 21st, 2009
5:13 pm
“the obama recession” what an idiot.
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willis
September 21st, 2009
5:21 pm
By far the best Pizza in Atlanta was on Peachtree in midtown I believe the owner killed himself in the restaurant and the site was bought by mellow mushroon. I beleive it was called Johnny’s Brick Oven Pizza….I think….by far the best pizza ever in atlanta!!!
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jrhd
September 21st, 2009
5:21 pm
Donna – I am going to quote you here so I don’t get it wrong. I wouldn’t want my ‘TERRIBLE EDUCATION’ to show through. I have “NEVER BEEN OR EATEN A NEW YORK PIZZA!!!!”, so I wouldn’t know what that feels like, but I have been to NYC and Chicago and I have eaten pizza in both cities. Real New Yorkers would fight you if you compared a thin, crispy New York pie to what Chicagoans call pizza. Everyone in NYC knows you don’t put the sauce on top of the pie. Judging from your command (snicker, snicker, sarcasm mode fully engaged) of the English language and your flawless syntax I can only imagine how superior the educational system in NYC/NY/NJ/PA – (the entire Northeast) must be to the South. What poor dumb rubes we are down here south of the ‘Dixie Mason line!!!!’. Lewis Grizzard put it so eloquently when he said, “Delta is ready when you are.” There is no Southern Hospitality anymore because there are too many people here in the South from other places who are just like you…rude!
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willis
September 21st, 2009
5:23 pm
It was Rocky’s Brick Oven Pizza, on Peachtree near 26th street.
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willis
September 21st, 2009
5:24 pm
It was Rocky’s Brick Oven Pizza, near 26th street.
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socialgal
September 21st, 2009
6:13 pm
I agree with heyjude…. Everybody’s Pizza near Emory has some of the best pizza I’ve ever tasted.
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SR
September 21st, 2009
6:33 pm
Take it from a former New Yorker … La Bella’s in Marietta is the best!!!
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Mac
September 21st, 2009
6:43 pm
Napoli’s Pizza in Flowery Branch is the best!!!!
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Bebe
September 21st, 2009
7:06 pm
Zucca’s is the best pizza hands down. The one off Town Lake is my fav. hang out. The white pizza with tomatoes..mmmm If it was not for the rain I would head there now
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Auburn3020
September 21st, 2009
7:06 pm
Varasano’s in Buckhead for “gourmet” pizza and Fortunato’s in Austell for just flat-out great pizza.
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wolfwoman
September 21st, 2009
7:11 pm
Enter your comments here
Rosa’s in Marietta??? We went there once. Never again. Greasy. Tasted Awful. Couldn’t believe it was highly rated.
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
7:11 pm
I’ll reiterate my list for the newbies. Try Blue Moon Pizza, Pepperoni’s in Duluth, Bella’s in Marietta, and I like Z’s Pizza in Midtown. And I also like Mellow Mushroom. Phil at Pepperoni’s makes his own sauce. Couple that with the marvelous cheese, and you’ve got a winner. Blue Moon takes it home also.
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Umoja11
September 21st, 2009
7:13 pm
I can’t claim to be an expert on pizza but my favorite of all the places I’ve been to is Shorty’s Pizza in tucker. I like the thin crust and wood-fired oven. My personal choice is the Tina Turner with onions, walnuts, and feta. My kids like kalamata olives and artichokes.
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Debbie
September 21st, 2009
7:16 pm
Shorty’s in Tucker rocks!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm
Everybody’s Pizza is just ok, but I’d lump it in witht Fellini’s. Take it or leave it. Actually, I’d lump it with Cici’s.
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
7:18 pm
Ok, just remember you have to try more places than just where you live. I’ll try Shorty’s and give you my opinion. Perhaps it’ll be added to my superior list in the future.
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
7:19 pm
Cosmo’s is good. I used to live in L’ville. Not the best, but better than most.
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gasawdawg
September 21st, 2009
7:20 pm
Vintage Pizzeria in Chamblee and their new location in Alpharetta/Milton rock!! Authentic New Jersey style pizza and awesome atmospheres!!
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Egger
September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm
Village Pizza in Cabbagetown, Urban Pie in Kirkwood and Avondale Pizza are all delicious!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
7:29 pm
But WAIT!!!! We must appease the great New Yorkers and ask them if our pizza picks are ok! Of course New Yorkers know everything about everything.
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Kennicarter
September 21st, 2009
7:30 pm
Clearly there will be dissenting opinions, however, I KNOW that Rosa’s Pizza on Broad is the best in the Metro Atlanta area. While I lived there (until a year ago), I would make it a point of eating there on a regular basis. As a native New Yorker, I recognize NY style pizza. The owners are transplants from New York themselves and brought the art of pizza making with them. Besides my true friends, this is one of the few things I miss about Atlanta.
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Melissa M. Miller
September 21st, 2009
7:32 pm
Fini’s Pizzeria (now in 3 locations – 2 in Lawrenceville, 1 in Flowery Branch) is the best NY Style Pizza. It’s OTP, which rarely receives the necessary attention. Ham & Onion slice highly recommended. I also LOVE their salad, rolls and Eggplant Parmigiana. Another must try is Pepperoni’s Pizza in Duluth & Pepperoni’s Tavern. The restaurants are unique and the food is great. They have a TON of different ingredients and various Chicago Style pies. The other menu offerings are fab, particularly the wings (ask for teripepper – it’s not on the menu, but delish) and the ribs. Yum. I’m craving pizza now. Fini’s is owned by true Italianos. Check out Fini’s on Old Peachtree (the original location) and Pepperoni’s off Buford Hwy you’ll see!
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joe race
September 21st, 2009
7:40 pm
I have to agree that Big Pie In The Sky in Kennesaw is fab!!! Get a slice and a Coke for $5.00 and the slice is bigger than your head! Very tasty and crispy. Mellow Mushroom is good. Great salads there! Pizza is a lot like sex: Its all good!
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Britt
September 21st, 2009
7:49 pm
Sal’s Place at the Cumming Square.
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Joe
September 21st, 2009
7:51 pm
American Pie in Barnesville. Get the Family Special!
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eric Jackson
September 21st, 2009
7:53 pm
Grant Central in East Atlanta !!!!!!! Corner of Glenwood Ave and Flatshoals Hands down the best pizza ever!!!
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gohome
September 21st, 2009
7:55 pm
to dave, melinda, libby and all the rest of you new-york-is-the-center-of-the-pizza-world snobs: new york has as much claim to the pizza as georgia has claim to corn bread (that’s not much if you’re unclear). you can however claim a level of self-importance that was not often found here in the south until y’all brought it down.
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Do It!
September 21st, 2009
7:56 pm
Shorty’s!!!!
Mo’s Pizza
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joeKerr
September 21st, 2009
7:58 pm
Harry’s Pizza and Subs
2150 Powers Ferry Rd SE
Atlanta, GA 30339-5028
(770) 955-4413
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
8:01 pm
Dang, I forgot about Harry’s. I like them too.
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THe Pizza man
September 21st, 2009
8:06 pm
Blaire Bear Cafe. it has reasonable prices and service with a smile. The place is always full of people coming or going or for the most part just there to hang out. The cook Toby will treat you right or like he says “its free”.
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Jones
September 21st, 2009
8:11 pm
Rocky’s Pizza on Lake Harbin in Morrow, GA. Some of the best pizza around!!!
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pizzapizza
September 21st, 2009
8:18 pm
Everybody’s in VAHi
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
8:19 pm
I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that
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JB
September 21st, 2009
8:20 pm
Vespucci’s pizza in midtown…
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
8:21 pm
Amerigo was only notable for one thing, and it wasn’t pizza
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John
September 21st, 2009
8:23 pm
Nancys Pizza in Buckhead and near Georgis Tech is the same franchise from Chicago and for Chicago style pizza – thin crust, pan, or stuffed IS the BEST outside of Chicago!!!
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Larry
September 21st, 2009
8:24 pm
Y’all all crazy!
Tony’s Pizza from Krogers is the best. Second freezer case on the middle shelf. Tony’s makes NY Pizza taste like dogfood.
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Cutty
September 21st, 2009
8:25 pm
Nancy’s Pizza ALL DAY!!!! Chicago-style on Peachtree or off Ponce near The Spaghetti Factory!! Makes me miss The Taste!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
8:26 pm
Larry…..Tombstone is actually the best, next to Red Baron.
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm
This is all part of Meredith’s evil plan to pit us against each other. Band together and let’s make harmony around my picks.
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Rick
September 21st, 2009
8:33 pm
Frozen Kroger pizza is the best!!
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Duane
September 21st, 2009
8:36 pm
Diesel Pizza in Roswell is by far the Best Pizza I have ever had.They are awsome. Everyone go try them its worth the drive.
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finally
September 21st, 2009
8:40 pm
I grew up eating at Gigi’s on Piedmont road-strip mall across from the Gold Club-no other pizza has ever compared to theirs. Sadly they are looong gone. Johnny’s location on Cheshire Br. is always great, Savage pizza is excellent in Little 5, they are supposed to have a location in Avondale?? Fortunately now I live near Bambinelli’s in Lilburn and it is very good and an awesome staff! Stone Mountain Pizza Kitchen and great too. Good pizza-Cioffi’s on Rockbridge, Fini’s on Old Peachtree in Duluth, Vinny’s on Sugarloaf, Enzo’s in Tucker. Don’t waste your time pizza-Cosmo’s in L’ville, gag! the ground beef was those frozen pellet things and the place was dank and dull. Uncle Vito’s on Scenic Hwy. used to be great but changed owners and it is nasty now. Mellow Mushroom in Norcross on Peachtree Parkway-HORRIBLE, nasty attitudes and gross pizza.
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jm
September 21st, 2009
8:53 pm
Ummm…Everybody’s in Decatur…hello…you must be from around here….
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Byron S.
September 21st, 2009
8:54 pm
Cozmo’s in L’ville and Mama’s in Alpharetta are, hands down, the best, most authentic NY style slices in town. Bar none!
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boots
September 21st, 2009
8:55 pm
San Vitos in Hickory Flat has the BEST NY style pizza, and they make the sauce over a 24 hour period. Very Yummy!!!
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jm
September 21st, 2009
8:56 pm
JRHD – I agree w/you!
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Caligurl
September 21st, 2009
8:59 pm
I grew up on the best pizza ever from a place called Frederick’s Pizza in Santa Maria, California. No longer there to the best of my knowledge. Don’t know their history either other than it was a family owned pizza joint that stayed packed and served their beer with olives in the bottom. We used to, as kids ask for the olives in our root beer just to be grown. Hence my olive fetish to this day. That being said, I think that what you grew up on will be how you relate the “best” as an adult. I’ve had pizza in NY, Chicago, etc. and still think Frederick’s was the best. That being said, in Atlanta…Pizza Bar (although owner needs to bring the quality back up) is one of my favorites and Blue Moon on Windy Hill (shout out to Mark the bartender!) is another favorite. Not the best though…Fredericks forever!
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
9:01 pm
I think you guys are blind……didn’t you see what I wrote? You’re not naming my picks.
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paul
September 21st, 2009
9:02 pm
dagwoods is the best and has been for along time
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Mike
September 21st, 2009
9:04 pm
Max’s Pizza off of Marietta Street right next to STATs is amazing. Super fresh toppings, great crust and they grow their own basil for a delicious margarita pizza.
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pamedavis
September 21st, 2009
9:04 pm
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Savage Pizza does not sell pizza by the slice. Only whole pies. For slices, Grant Central Pizza in Grant Park near Zoo Atlanta, is pretty good. Better than Fillini’s
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Pat
September 21st, 2009
9:08 pm
Caligurl is ok in my book b/c she mentioned Blue Moon, but just “ok”.
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Hannah
September 21st, 2009
9:17 pm
The first pizza I’ve had in a LONG time that I thought was really good was the white pizza from New York Pizza Exchange in Vinings. Amazing.
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Blue Moon fan
September 21st, 2009
9:22 pm
Blue Moon Pizza (locations in Marietta and Smyrna) is amazing, also! If you’re OTP, on the NE side of town, look them up — their pizza is amazingly fresh and light. If you like a deep dish pizza, try their “Grandma’s Pizza”, which is awesome, too.
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tlee
September 21st, 2009
9:23 pm
oz pizza is the pizza that is the best in the atl college park go and try it i will put my money on it im from nj, ikhow good pizza
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tlee
September 21st, 2009
9:24 pm
oz pizza is the pizza that is the best in the atl college park go and try it i will put my money on it im from nj, ikhow good pizza
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tlee
September 21st, 2009
9:25 pm
oz pizza is the pizza that is the best in the atl college park go and try it i will put my money on it im from nj, ikhow good pizza go and get it the best
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Emily
September 21st, 2009
9:26 pm
Pizza Man in Norcross has some pretty good pizza.
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BIOMASS
September 21st, 2009
9:27 pm
Pizza lovers have big bellies. Bread and cheese, who would have thought?
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Bud Flu
September 21st, 2009
9:44 pm
Baby Tommy’s in Marietta, GA
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melissa's mom
September 21st, 2009
9:58 pm
I love a thin crispy crust pizza. My favorite is Shorty’s, either on North Druid Hills or Lawrenceville Highway. Outside of Atlanta, I LOVE Theo’s Pizza on beach road 98 in Miramar Beach (Destin). Theo’s is a wonderful hangout with live local music, too.
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Caligurl
September 21st, 2009
9:59 pm
That being said Pat (laughing at myself on that) you “just ok” in my book too. Ill check out your other picks to see if I can up my status one day
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melissa's mom
September 21st, 2009
10:04 pm
I have to give a shout out to another favorite. For traditional pizza, Bambinelli’s in Tucker is delicious!
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jake
September 21st, 2009
10:23 pm
Atlantan, what an idiot you are!!!!! It’s like a new president taking over a failing company. The past president has already dug a hole that the new president is trying to climb out of. What if you joined a company and within less than a year you did not perform the miracle expected of you? Is it ok for the entire company to blame you for it’s failure? Adults need to start taking full responsibility for their own mistakes and failures stop blaming others. Or is that the new American way?
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amyas leigh
September 21st, 2009
10:27 pm
Elmo’s Italian Kitchen on ther square in Gainesville, GA has the best pizza i have tasted in a very long time…i am from New York….just really great.
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DC
September 22nd, 2009
2:34 am
And the foodie bickering begins in three, two, one…
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tanya
September 22nd, 2009
8:24 am
Carmine’s on Old Milton in Alpharetta is very good.
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Pat
September 22nd, 2009
8:53 am
DC….you’re pretty late to the game for that comment.
Hey, guess what’s the best way to spend the night? Commenting on pizza b/c you can’t get home. Dam flooding…..
I know what I’m craving right now……..
Caligurl, don’t worry, you may come up when I make it out to Cali to try Frederick’s
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Lauren
September 22nd, 2009
9:26 am
It’s not surprising Roy’s Atlanta closed. This location can’t hold a candle to the original Roy’s in Hawaii. I never received good service there. Plus the location for the restaurant could have been better (more signage or something pointing it out to Buckhead on Piedmont Road instead of the tiny sign at the intersection before 400) . They did very little to market themselves locally to Atlanta. I can’t remember seeing an ad for Roy’s, or their logo showing sponsorship, in the past year.
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Patrick
September 22nd, 2009
10:05 am
I know it is off topic, but are you going do a report on some of the restaurants that are probably flooded? I’ve already seen pictures of Canoe underwater, which is a huge loss.
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MDunbar
September 22nd, 2009
10:16 am
A family tradition that we have continued on since I was able to reach the countertop was making my Great Grandmother’s homemade yeast rolls every Thanksgiving and Christmas. Early in the morning with the parade blaring from teh T.V. in the front room, the girls gather together in the kitchen to begin mixing, kneeding, cutting and tasting. There is something in the passing on of good food, the stories told over the bread and all the girls in the kitchen from my mother who is 68 down to my daughter who is now 7. My eldest sister would tell you how much she cherishes this time of cooking but in reality her contribution is whisking in once the dough is made and picking off small pieces at a time. Even that is a loving memory that we share.
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Liz
September 22nd, 2009
10:19 am
Buckhead Pizza Kitchen by far the best! They have anything you want– even whole wheat if you want to be healthy.
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mford
September 22nd, 2009
10:26 am
Patrick — not off topic at all — as a matter of fact, a great idea for the blog. I will ask on the blog in a separate post. Thanks for the great idea.
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Don
September 22nd, 2009
12:47 pm
I agree with Lauren. While my wife and I only ate there once, it was so disappointing that we never felt the need to go back. There are too many other good restaurants to enjoy in Atlanta!
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Lauren
September 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm
For the photo of Canoe flooding, check here http://twitpic.com/imukj
So sad…
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Drew
September 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm
Sad I suppose, but the bigger story (and I’m sure much of it will go unpublished here on the AJC and elsewhere) is the amount of trash that gets washed into major waterways and eventually the ocean because of storms like this. As noted above, everything from balls to swing sets were being washed away. And Jeremy Richmond considers that a “show”? I would have thought that a restaurant that prides itself on picturesque views of the Chattahoochee would be nearly horrified by the amount of trash in the water.
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mford
September 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm
In defense of Mr. Richmond, I think he was horrified from what he told me on the phone, particularly by the swing sets.
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Puhlease
September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm
Sad story, but hardly worthy of a food/restaurant blog.
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Junior Mints
September 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm
I just phoned my wife and told her to meet me at Rays In the River for dinner.
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Faith
September 22nd, 2009
4:08 pm
This was one of my favorite places to dine. Roy’s served up the best
“lava-cake” in town. What a sad day.
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jay
September 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
What’s sad, Drew, is all those people out of work. I think that is the “bigger story”.
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jay
September 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm
I believe this story is relevant to people in the restaurant industry. And I believe a lot of those people read this blog. Therefore, I believe it is “worthy” of this blog.
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Drew
September 22nd, 2009
6:04 pm
jay – Yes, you’re right. That is a problem. But there are countless numbers of flood victims who have lost lots more than temporarily losing their job.
My point was to bring attention to the trash problem this kind of storm brings. We live in Atlanta, far from the Gulf where all the trash will be carried and as a result I think it is a lost story.
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Dave Perry
September 22nd, 2009
6:59 pm
Varasano’s in Buckhead is the best I have tried. Also Armando’s in Cartersville and his brother’s place, Toni’s, in Ft. Ogelthorpe, are a close second.
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x
September 22nd, 2009
8:30 pm
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x
September 22nd, 2009
8:32 pm
“The next commentor who mentions anything about being gay will be deleted. This post is about the Deen brothers and their new cookbook, not about sexual orientation.”
I’m gay, are you going to delete my post? Also, I can spell commenter…..
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AJ
September 22nd, 2009
8:50 pm
Drew – Very valid. Simple solution – If you don’t feel the AJC is covering this part of the story then write an editorial and submit it to the AJC or any other publication. The AJC publishes letters to the editors and other articles.
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Phil
September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm
Drew- get a life. seriously, dude.
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Lynn
September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm
Enter your comments here
Of course it is Obama’s recession. It is purposeful. It is his intention to make our country just like his daddy’s .
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Atlantan
September 22nd, 2009
10:17 pm
Jay & Jake – how is that 10.7% unemployment rate working for you? Obviously you idiots aren’t students of history, but probably know what is happening on Dancing With The Stars.
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AJ
September 23rd, 2009
7:41 am
Drew – Read page A1 in today’s (9/23) paper.
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Chuck
September 23rd, 2009
9:50 am
Enter your comments here As the owner of a small, family run business that sells our product to the restaurant industry, I am sad to see any restaurant close because I know how hard the operators work. But these people played games with the invoices for my family’s products. They were very difficult to do business with and treated me and other vendors like we were criminals when we tried to get our invoices paid. Almost having to threaten legal action, we finally did get paid; but, with all the bad PR that they accrued for trying to shake down their vendors got them -0- extra business. Maybe next time they will realize that vendors are customers too AND vendors know a lot of people who could also be customers.
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Becky
September 23rd, 2009
10:05 am
Drew, what would you rather people do, try to save their family or a swing set? Trash washing out isn’t something that I would be to concerned about at this time..
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reservoirDAWG
September 23rd, 2009
12:58 pm
I could not agree more MF. My wife and I have been ordering one entree to split for years.
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Chris Heisel
September 23rd, 2009
1:17 pm
My wife and I do this when dining out in Atlanta, but sometimes I think the wait staff thinks we’re cheapskates for not buying two entrees!
I’d pay nearly the same for two sane-sized entrees as I would for jumbo-sized ones _if_ Atlanta restaurants would offer that.
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Becky
September 23rd, 2009
2:03 pm
if it’s not something that I can take for lunch the next day, my husband and I always share the meal..
Chris, couldn’t help but laugh at your statement..I have a niece that a few years ago worked at Chili’s..She was always talking about how cheap people were when they would come in and share a meal or get a doggie bag..So we told her that she could never go out to eat with us, because I have a sister that (if they let her) always orders off of the kids menu..
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LClark
September 23rd, 2009
2:10 pm
Enter your comments here I never personally met either of the brothers, however my husband had the pleaseure of driving them when they were here in Atlanta a couple of years ago. He only had the the greatest time talking with them and driving them around, especially Bobby. We had lunch at The Lady and Sons and the food was great especially the Hoe cakes and Crab stew.
Continue being REAL people guys.
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Fishawk
September 23rd, 2009
3:46 pm
There is always some damn fool trying to bring politics into every discussion. You’ve proven once again “that although genius may have its limitations; stupidity is thus not handicapped”. Roy’s was an excellent restaurant. It will be missed.
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Mark
September 23rd, 2009
4:36 pm
I’m with Drew here, its truly appalling how much trash has been washed down. For those of you who are unconcerned, let me know where you live and I’ll come deposit the pile of garbage that washed down to my street onto your driveway. Since its not a big deal I’m sure you won’t mind.
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x
September 23rd, 2009
7:08 pm
Just last week you were touting a 7 lb burrito and now you are encouraging portion control? I’m confused.
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Ned Beatty
September 23rd, 2009
7:36 pm
SQUEAL!!!!!
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Kevin Cleary
September 24th, 2009
1:02 am
My family frequented Roy’s in Chicago where we are from and in Hawaii where we visit often and it saddens me to see it close. This is my childrens favorite restaurant and the place they want to celebrate all their birthdays.
We love Roy’s!
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mford
September 24th, 2009
7:15 am
X: This happens a lot on Table Talk. I understand your confusion — let me see if I can explain. Last week, I was reporting a birthday party bash for a restaurant as part of restaurant news. I wasn’t touting their burrito — I was conveying information, which is a big part of my job. This post is more about how to help people when they are dining out cut cash and calories. If I had been “touting” the burrito, I would have talked about my eating it, what it tasted like, how long it took me to eat it, and whether or not I thought you should go try it. Table Talk covers a lot of different topics. Hope this helps.
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Drew
September 24th, 2009
9:08 am
Thanks Mark. My point was not to negate the fact that people lost homes, property and lives, it was to express concern that calling heaps of trash floating down the river “dinner and a show” is inappropriate. Oh well, at the very least there were other meaningful contributions, here like Phil’s.
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Aussie
September 24th, 2009
10:23 am
That “dinner and show” comment was so insensitive. What a bunch of stuck-up snobs. How delightful it is that they were entertained by the destruction that was caused when the Hooch “breach[ed] its boundaries.”
@ Drew: I understand your point. The trash is unfortunate, but, trash can be retrieved, unlike the little children (and adults) who were tragically swept away in the floods. That was absolutely devastating.
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Mike
September 24th, 2009
10:40 am
Glad to hear it. Never had very good food and always had really bad service at this place (they got two chances). Always left feeling like I had been seriously ripped off. The recession is really doing a good job of clearing out the over priced, attitude riddled restos serving mediocre food.
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susieqeyeq
September 24th, 2009
1:03 pm
For a food/restaurant blog, this story is newsworthy, interesting, and relevant. Thank you for keeping us up-to-date.
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JEAS3
September 24th, 2009
2:49 pm
I have to say that I think it is rather amusing that several posts on this blog got so riled up about the quote from Mr. Richmond regarding the debris floating down the river. The quote was obviously just one part of a longer conversation and should be viewed as such. I’m quite certain that the comment was made to try and lighten up what was undoubtedly a very sobering conversation about the damages wrought by the flood. Try and keep some perspective people!
@Aussie: Try not to be so quick to judge a whole group of patrons based on a quote from one person.
@Drew: Your point is well taken about the trash; however, I think that we can all agree that the bigger story at the moment is the loss of life, property and jobs that have resulted from this catastrophic event.
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Drew
September 24th, 2009
3:06 pm
JEA – I never argued that trash was a bigger story than the loss of life, etc. did I? I only said it was a bigger issue than the flooding of a restaurant that choose to put itself on the banks of a river. This isn’t the first time Canoe has flooded and it won’t be the last.
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Sue
September 24th, 2009
6:31 pm
I loved Roy’s! I heard that it was all the buildings fault. What a shame to see such a wonderful place leave the Atlanta market:(
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JEAS3
September 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
@Drew: Actually, your post above is the first time that you have mentioned Canoe at all, let alone where the flooding of the restaurant ranks in relation to the debris in the river. I wasn’t trying to criticize you, I was only trying to make the point that we can all agree on the fact that there are bigger issues at hand. Canoe has done nothing to pollute the river whatsoever, it is a victim the same as many other businesses and individuals around the city. Again, I’m just asking for some perspective here – no offense intended to anyone…
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ENO Restaurant Review – Midtown, Atlanta, GA [Top Chef Stop] | Atlanta Restaurant Reviews | Atlanta Food Blogs | Dining in Atlanta
September 25th, 2009
8:16 am
[...] trip to Las Vegas for season six of Top Chef. The restaurant got it’s second wind when word broke that Atlanta Hawks center Zaza Pachulia had come out of nowhere to purchase both ENO and the [...]
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Voice of Reason #1
September 25th, 2009
8:21 am
Canoe was/is a great restaurant in general, but it also holds a great memory for me. After many years of a broken heart; and the man who broke it later moving to Atlanta with his wife (who he picked in my image); and he, for years, begging me to meet with him–he needed “to talk”…I finally–after 7 years–said yes (to find out what the heck he wanted!), and it was at Canoe that he told me “I f***** up…I married the wrong girl.” And he expounded on that. That was even sweeter than Canoe’s great creme brulee!
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jenny
September 25th, 2009
9:18 am
Enzo’s is great, both by the slice and a whole pizza. I love Shorty’s, but you can’t get it by the slice. Stone Mountain Pizza Cafe, Vintage Pizza, Bambinelli’s and Mellow Mushroom (certain locations) round out my list of my favorites.
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eli
September 25th, 2009
10:16 am
hey meridith when does the fall dining guide come out
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mford
September 25th, 2009
10:21 am
Hi Eli! Thanks for asking. We’re doing something a little different this year — an online guide that will include the Restaurant of the Year, my top ten picks, and 10 of my favorite affordable meals. It should arrive on-line the third week of October!! I’ll be teasing more on the blog soon!
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jimmy
September 25th, 2009
10:41 am
Top Flr and Abattoir are good candidates for this kind of list too. They both have unique selections @ < $30. Concentrics, specifically Ecco and La Tavola have some well priced and good selections too.
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mford
September 25th, 2009
10:59 am
Totally agree Jimmy! Excellent choices. Ecco and La Tavola are two of my favorite lists!
And just to be clear, they are Fifth Group restaurants, not Concentrics.
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roc_a_fella
September 25th, 2009
11:10 am
@JEAS3 – lol! you must have been one of the “patrons”
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D. Sherman
September 25th, 2009
11:44 am
I just wanted to let you know of a new wine retail shop and TAPAS restaurant that is now in Milton, GA. The ambiance is wonderful, and it’s the perfect spot for a romantic evening meal , or a great place to hang out with friends. It is an exciting, casual environment with fabulous food! Very friendly staff. Every dish was served at the perfect temp and flawlessly presented. They also have over 150 bottles of wine that can be purchased from their retail side, and the coolest enomatic machines where you can sample wine by the sip, half glass or full glass.. Awesome place!!!
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DEA
September 25th, 2009
11:45 am
Yes, after 9 months it IS NOW Obama’s recession–and denial isn’t just a river in Africa. Facts are stubborn things–the $787 BILLION “package” was supposed to keep us from getting to 8% unemployment. Oh yeah, and the government is going to help us–what a farce. Time to put our feet on the ground and understand what works and what is a pie-in-the-sky, liberal elite pipe dream (perhaps to be shared with Obama).
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DeeDee
September 25th, 2009
11:47 am
Since the format change on-line, I’ve had a difficult time finding food and dining write-ups. I hope the fall dining guide won’t be one of them.
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Ethan
September 25th, 2009
11:58 am
I would like to add the V2 Wine Room at the Vinyeard Wine Market at 2202 Powers Feery Road Atlanta, 30339 Great wines by the glass or by the bottle along with meat and cheese plates at great prices. You can also have food delievered from the surrounding restaurants to have with your wine. The owner Anthony is great and very knowledgeable about all the wines carried. Give it a try sometimes. They also have wine tastings. http://www.thevineyardwinemarket.com
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mford
September 25th, 2009
12:01 pm
D Sherman: Do tell us the name of this awesome place!! And DeeDee: Understood — go to accessAtlanta for all the dining reviews. And I’ll try to make sure the dining guide is large and in charge! Ethan: Thanks for this tip — I need to cehck this place out.
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chadrich
September 25th, 2009
12:34 pm
Gotta add a vote for Cellar 56 in Buckhead. Small but well thought-out list in 3 price ranges, nice by-the-glass selection, and interesting lesser-known choices.
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VoiceOf Reason
September 25th, 2009
12:35 pm
Hey Meredith,
I’m begging for you to review The Shark Bar & Restaurant in East Point. I want to go, but I want to hear your thoughts first.
Thanks
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Tara Humphrey
September 25th, 2009
12:35 pm
I just love the haters! I have been a fan of a piece of cake since 1997 and will be until there is no more cake. I love that cake so much that I would go every Thursday to pick up one. My family and friends love the cake. I bragged so much about how gooood they taste that I purchased a cake FOR THE HATERS so they would try it. Well to say the least I got my money back! SO EAT THE CAKE ANNIE MAE!!!
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D. Sherman
September 25th, 2009
1:28 pm
NAME OF RESTAURANT IN MILTON Hi Everyone I had sent a comment about the great new restaurant in Milton GA. It’s called Sip!! The Address is 12635 Crabapple Road #120 Milton, GA.
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jimmy
September 25th, 2009
2:22 pm
LOL oops…sorry (and sorry to Michael Erickson) for the Concentrics/5th group gaffe!
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ziza
September 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
voice of reason – i’ve been to the shark bar and i wouldnt be rushing over and i probably won’t go for a good while again. service was pleasant and ok but the menu leaves much to be desired and the food was sub-mediocre. if you hear differently or find differently when you go, post and i’ll go back but right now my opinion is not worth the walk or the drive. there’s better fare at q’s down the skreet.
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mford
September 25th, 2009
3:25 pm
Thanks Ziza! I know I won’t be able to get to Shark Bar soon — so thanks for filling us in!!
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TJ
September 25th, 2009
3:28 pm
I was going to mention Sips Restaurant. A friend of mine recommended I check it out and it was fantastic. It’s somewhat small so I’m sure it will get busy as more people find it but the food was second to none in addition to the fun wine selections. I can’t wait to go back!
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mark petko
September 25th, 2009
4:18 pm
See images of Chef Jay (prepping a whole hog) and 4th & Swift here:
http://spoonfedatlanta.com/4th-and-swift/
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Clay
September 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Drew, so you don’t care about the restaurant story b/c they chose to be on the river, but you’re mad at the trash coming down from families’ belongings that weren’t even in the floodplain? You keep calling it trash, I’m sure these people would rather have their things to have never washed away! Are you trying to blame the homeowners who were flooded for the things being washed downstream?
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Ken McKinney
September 25th, 2009
7:58 pm
I had eaten there several times as a resident of Midtown, and am sorry to see this beautiful restaurant close. The service was always good and the food as good as it gets in Atlanta.
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Puhlease
September 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
Spot on for the Bookhouse Pub. Great space, great beer and great food!!
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Lady Minister
September 26th, 2009
12:43 am
I am truly disappointed to hear the Roy’s has closed. I ate there the last time I visited Atlanta and the food was fabulous. We had excellent service (except for the valet) and it was one of my most fond fine dining experiences. I was online to make reservations for next month when I saw the message that the restaurant had closed. Roy’s will truly be missed!!!
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ButlerDawg
September 26th, 2009
1:17 am
I still think Willie Martinez needs to go!
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greg
September 26th, 2009
7:52 am
I went to http://www.felidia-nyc.com in Manhatten a couple months ago and they presented a special wine list…all Italian…of about 40 wines all at $28 a bottle…I was a kid in a candy store…and they were well selected nice wines. Atlanta needs more of this kind of thing instead of $10 glass plonk and having to spend over $50 to get a OK wine.
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GTFan
September 26th, 2009
8:48 am
Vinocity in Kirkwood
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EJMCGA
September 26th, 2009
9:42 am
As for Rosebud getting 3 stars, I totally disagree. Live in the neighborhood and have been acouple of times since they reinvented themselves as Rosebud. Not only a disappointment, but truly a BAD experience.
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RW
September 26th, 2009
11:12 am
Definitely need to add support for Cellar 56. Great wine list and no better prices for a great selection anywhere in Atlanta.
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Ron Cohen
September 26th, 2009
11:34 am
Enter your comments hereAnybody know what happened to Winesouth?
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kmerlini
September 26th, 2009
11:46 am
I have met them at book signings and in Savannah (just by chance) They are sweet,down to earth, adorable men who spoke with me on each occasion like they remembered me. They never rushed me away or seemed to be anything but humble! I have met a number of food network people over the years but the Deens truly impressed me with their kindness and understanding that their fans are very important to them. Can’t wait to see them again in Oct. Paula you done GOOD!!
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griftdrift
September 26th, 2009
4:31 pm
There can never be too much pig
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janet
September 26th, 2009
4:54 pm
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Not sure what happened to Wine south but the founder and organizer of the event owns Atlanta Wine School in Roswell, I think.
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Steve
September 26th, 2009
6:57 pm
I should add a plug for Two Urban Licks for their very innovative wine program that lets you try a wide range for wines with five different serving sizes
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srd
September 27th, 2009
12:23 am
Thanks for the list of restaurants, but I was hoping for a list of wines. The article seemed to imply that you’d provide list of your favorite/affortable wines…
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GaBoy
September 27th, 2009
8:07 am
Tombstone rocks !
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Kelvinbushan
September 27th, 2009
8:37 am
Forget about the other comments, If you are looking for the best pizza for the buck,,, No one can beat Sams Club. This pizza is better than Pizza Hut, Little Ceasar, Papa John, Dominos, CCs pizza, and most of the other little smaller pizza shop. Now what make Sams Club the king of the hill is Quality and price. You can get a 18 inch large supreme pizza for only $9 in about ten minutes. Non of the above places will give you real cheese. Sams Club will give you all fresh vegetable, real cheese and real meat. The crust seems to be made of some type of sour dough baked that is truly tasteful. Talk about a best kept secret, You can even order from home and go to the store for pickup. In a nut shell you get fresh ingredient, real cheese, large portions, great taste for the cheapest price. The only drawback is you or a friend must have to have a Sams Club card to get in the store. Pound for pound the best pizza for the buck in Atlanta
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eli
September 27th, 2009
11:44 am
i just had two awesome meals this weekend one at the livingston and the other at table 1280 best food i have had in a while
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Countryangelheart
September 27th, 2009
6:14 pm
I can’t imagine life without the Deens. My mom and I just love watching them. We (Mom & I) wish them all the success in the world, they really deserve it. They have worked hard for it. Now my two cents on whether or not that Bobby is gay that is HIS business and nobody elses. I wish them many more years of success with peace, love and true happiness.
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Tyler Pike
September 27th, 2009
7:49 pm
Weird coincidence. Daddy’s having a pig roast this weekend and he’s going to be the ‘Top Chef’ firing up the slow cooker. We’re planning an all day event, topped off with his signature vinegar based BBQ sauce. Hope to see you all there.
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James
September 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
What is noteworthy and somewhat amusing is that our local “dining critics” loved to put down the Dining Room, which is Atlanta’s best restaurant and has been since it opened. But they just couldn’t find it in themselves to agree with Mobil. They just had to be different. Not even one local publication rated the Dining Room as the best in town. To even mention a place like Bacchanalia in the same sentence as the Dining Room is absurd. There is nothing about Bacchanalia that compares to the Dining Room. Nothing. We probably didn’t deserve the Dining Room.
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‘Affordable wine list’ | Save 25% on Nutcracker | Free Dance event | Atlanta Bargain Hunter
September 28th, 2009
11:37 am
[...] seen it, check out her weekly Top Five lists, this time featuring her favorite places for premier affrodable wines around [...]
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The Iberian Pig Restaurant Review – Decatur, GA [First Impressions] | Atlanta Restaurant Reviews | Atlanta Food Blogs | Dining in Atlanta
September 29th, 2009
8:16 am
[...] the foodies, the adventurous eaters, and the hip. Backed by a wealth of internet buzz (here, here, & here – just to name a few), The Iberian Pig supposedly opened this past evening. [...]
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PAUL
September 29th, 2009
12:25 pm
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IMHO
September 29th, 2009
12:30 pm
I really enjoy Mexican cuisine and Rosa Mexicano has some really nice dishes. Unfortunately it’s hard to get very enthusiastic about going there again after they allowed not one, but two episodes of the “Real House ‘Hoes’ of Atlanta” to film there. One can only imagine what kind of customers that sort of publicity must attract. I shutter to think of what one could catch sitting on a chair after Kim in a mini-dress.
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joeGa
September 29th, 2009
12:31 pm
Bacon. Really. Bacon….
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Arg!
September 29th, 2009
12:37 pm
I love bacon, but somehow your article has grossed me out.
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OTP Foodie
September 29th, 2009
12:42 pm
If you just need a small cajeta fix and want the easy way out, try Coronado Paleta de Cajeta lollipops. I get them at the Cobb International Farmer’s Market. About a buck for ten of them. Can’t bleat (I mean beat) ‘em.
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Ryan
September 29th, 2009
12:50 pm
Peter Luger Steakhouse in NYC has the best bacon
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Bobby
September 29th, 2009
12:57 pm
Bacon. I love Bacon. Now I am hungry. Thanks!
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Fletch
September 29th, 2009
1:00 pm
My employer sent Burger’s Country Ham and Turduckens to our clients every Christmas. They were always a big hit (especially when extras were ordered for us to share).
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mmmmmm Bacon
September 29th, 2009
1:02 pm
I am a bacon lover – very crispy. I have purchased Benton Farm’s bacon and Alan Benton is a great guy and a joy to talk with. However, his bacon is a little too smokey for me to eat on it’s own. It’s great as an addition and enhancer to other foods, but not by itself. I’ll give Burger’s Smokehouse a try. I’m always looking for a great piece of bacon (the maple bacon at the Druid Hills golf club is great! Yum) I tried duplicating it at home and it was good – with one lesson learned. You cannot drain it on a paper towel!
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jg
September 29th, 2009
1:08 pm
Thanks for the info – I checked out the Burger’s Smokehouse website and albeit a little pricey – I found some things for that picky person at Christmas!
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Brad in Jasper
September 29th, 2009
1:24 pm
Are any of you familiar with fresh, or uncured bacon from the meat market? We grew up calling it “side meat”. Nothing compares to me, esp with pintos, greens, and cornbread. You can have all the fakey added flavors, smoke, maple, cured stuff etc. you want. I am having trouble finding it, though. We used to buy from Chambers up in Blairsville. All corn fed pork. If any one knows of a good place to buy it on the northside, please let me know. Thanks!
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Pork Infraction
September 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
The best bacon I have found is from the Smokehouse just of I-85 in Greenville, Alabama (an hour or so south of Montgomery). Its in a building attached to a BP station and they have BBQ and sausage, but those are pedestrian compared this bacon which can be ordered with or without the rind.
Someday when I no longer care about my health I will determine how much bacon I can eat. All I know is it’s more than I have ever been served. My mother was horrified when my grandmother once fried up a whole pound for me one day when I was a child. I see a pancacke breakfast as a way to bring bacon together with maple syrup. I have always felt that a candy based on these flavors would outsell Snickers.
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Matt Smith
September 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
I ate 7 plates of bacon from Waffle House!
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dawgdan
September 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
Burger’s Smokehouse bacon is available at my local Publix in Woodstock.
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bacon lover
September 29th, 2009
1:46 pm
Burger’s is WONDERFUL bacon. You can find it at Publix for $5.99 per pound. It is much better than any other bacon I’ve purchased in a supermarket. A couple of dollars more, but well worth it.
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T
September 29th, 2009
1:50 pm
You just CAN NOT serve chunchy, crumbly bacon.
Bacon MUST be cooked so that it is chewy.
I can NOT stand crunchy, crumbly bacon.
If you’re a big fan of bacon, Google “bacon explosion”, it is UNBELIEVEABLE!!
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cindy adams
September 29th, 2009
1:54 pm
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Bacon………… hmmm……. A heart attack waiting to happen.
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6 Degrees of Kevin
September 29th, 2009
2:04 pm
Waffle House bacon is way too thin. I had black pepper and brown sugar bacon at a Christmas brunch last year and could have eaten the whole serving tray, it was so good. If there’s a food you don’t really care for, wrap it in bacon and brown it, and you’ll scarf it down.
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Todd
September 29th, 2009
2:07 pm
For those of you who might want to try Burgers, Publix carries it in their meat dept. It is a great bacon!!
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Liz
September 29th, 2009
2:17 pm
EVERYTHING is better with bacon! And if you eat it by itself then it needs to be crispy! Newsky’s has some great bacon and you can get it at the Fresh Market. Mushrooms, steak, scallops, shrimp… All better if wrapped in bacon. Definitely.
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Terri
September 29th, 2009
2:21 pm
I gotta a heart shaped bacon tattoo on my rump!
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@mmmmmmmm Bacon
September 29th, 2009
2:23 pm
The bacon at Druid Hills is called Sugar Smack Bacon and you are right it is the best ever. Im not sure where tog et it though
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@mmmmmmmm Bacon
September 29th, 2009
2:24 pm
The bacon at Druid Hills is called Sugar Smack Bacon and you are right it is the best ever. Im not sure where to get it though
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Luckydog
September 29th, 2009
2:27 pm
HI EVERYONE, TO FIND THIS INCREDABLE BURGERS’ “DRY CURED” BACON GO TO ANY PUBLIX STORE IN N. GEORGIA, S. CAROLINA, NASHVILLE OR BIRMINGHAM, AL. THE THICK SLICED IS LIKE “BACON STEAK” WE PUT IT ON THE GRILL! GO DAWGS!Enter your comments here
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fer
September 29th, 2009
2:27 pm
I recently saw a t-shirt in a catalogue: I’d be a vegetarian if it weren’t for bacon! My sentiments exactly. And maybe the occasional barbecue……
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Geo
September 29th, 2009
2:33 pm
The Sugar bacon @ West Egg is yummy!
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Buck
September 29th, 2009
2:48 pm
Enter your comments here You are correct, the Burger’s Smokehouse Bacon is the best I have ever found throughout my travels…..If you think the bacon is good, you have to try their pre-cooked ribs, ham steaks and biscuit cut ham….perfect for a Southern Breakfast and tailgate parties…..
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Sarah
September 29th, 2009
2:54 pm
We live in Florida and were fortunate to find some Burger’s Smokehouse bacon in St. Petersburg, FL…..This stuff is like popcorn, you can just eat one piece…… Feed the Oscar Mayer to the Dog and savor the Burger’s for yourself……
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Jim
September 29th, 2009
2:59 pm
Have you ever noticed how many recipes call for other meats wrapped in bacon. If there’s something you don’t like to eat, wrap it in bacon.
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baconier
September 29th, 2009
3:01 pm
Pine Street Market in Avondale makes their own bacon (amongst many other delicious meat products) and it is delicious. Not too smokey. Not too salty. Sawicki’s in Decatur carries some great bacon too, but I am not clear what brand it is or if it is even the same brand all the time.
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Matt Smith
September 29th, 2009
3:03 pm
I just went to waffle house and had 8 plates of bacon this time
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BACON LOVER
September 29th, 2009
3:09 pm
http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/
FOR ALL OF YOU BACON LOVERS!!!!
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ANTHONY
September 29th, 2009
3:24 pm
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Elliot Garcia
September 29th, 2009
4:00 pm
Burgers Smokehouse cooks a great smoked turkey too! They will ship…
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Becky
September 29th, 2009
4:52 pm
I will have to try the Burgers Bacon..I love bacon when it’s cooked jsut under crispy, but still has a little chew to it..I have a coworker that cooks it in the microwave and only cooks it about 2 minutes, yuk..
As fer said, bacon is why I could never be a vegetarian..
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Chris
September 29th, 2009
5:02 pm
Waffle House, wendy’s, checkers
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jrhd
September 29th, 2009
5:12 pm
Bacon and beer are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
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Oink
September 29th, 2009
5:13 pm
ah a the bacon issue
My house likes chewy
the house I grew up in crisp to burnt
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Rizzeh
September 29th, 2009
5:25 pm
Everything from Burgers’ Smokehouse is good. I loooved the Black Pepper Thick Sliced bacon when I lived in MO. It’s about $5 a pound, but so yummy!
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Stan
September 29th, 2009
5:26 pm
I like mine mostly crispy, but it is best if it has some crip to it with some chewy to it as well. Which works for me cause I like really thick slices of bacon.
I would love to try chocolate covered bacon! I’ll have to make it some day.
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lalala
September 29th, 2009
5:46 pm
Lynn, I can’t even believe you would post such a stupid comment and broadcast your ignorance to the world. Obama barely even knew his father. I know that because I read his book while I was trying to make up my mind who to vote for. I’m guessing you must not read much, unless it’s all those spam e-mails telling you Obama is a Muslim and doesn’t hold a birth certificate from here. Such a shame that all you people believe all the trash that is spoonfed to you. Me, I’m glad to have a mind of my own.
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Arealblkwmn
September 29th, 2009
6:05 pm
If you actually want to eat chocolate covered bacon, I can recommend a good Shrink !…and a Cardiologist !
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Carol
September 29th, 2009
6:50 pm
Neuske’s apple wood smoked bacon!
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flaboy
September 29th, 2009
6:57 pm
just saw some bacon peanut brittle, yum yum
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JEM
September 29th, 2009
8:34 pm
TURKEY BACON!!!
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Willx
September 29th, 2009
9:01 pm
Crumbled bacon crust quiche. Deviled egg and crunchy bacon sandwich. Crisp fat back in a real Grandma biscuit. Waffle taco filled with crumbled bacon and scrambled egg, topped with a little cheese and drizzled with Maple syrup. I could go on and on and on. . .
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PS Dave
September 29th, 2009
9:04 pm
I vote for the bacon from Patak Meats, it’s awesome.
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Carter
September 29th, 2009
9:15 pm
Bentons Bacon ROCKS. The Inn at Blackberry Farm, http://www.blackberryfarm.com/ serves it (which is where we found it). It’s the best anywhere – and I’ve eaten a LOT of that nutritionally bankrupt food.
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Kim Huffman
September 29th, 2009
9:20 pm
Enter your comments here Atlanta’s chef’s of note use Benton’s, and so do I, making the trek to the Madisonville TN. smoke house a couple of times a year. Benton’s, hands down is the best bacon in the nation, and yes, I have had Burgers, Broadbent’s, Father’s, and Van de Rose’s…none compare to what Alan Benton is producing.
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Fritz Niebergall
September 29th, 2009
9:26 pm
Another great bacon is Nueskes in Wittenburg WI, can get mail order or the web. Smoked 24 hours over apple wood.
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Mazo
September 29th, 2009
11:35 pm
Jack’s Meat Mkt. in Dublin, Ga., has the best bacon in the world.
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mamaj
September 30th, 2009
12:09 am
I don’t know what kind of bacon Chili’s puts on their burgers, but I’ve been tempted many times to just dispense with the burger and eat just the bacon–it is just that good. That said, I will be visiting Publix tomorrow for some Burgers bacon. You all have convinced me.
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Intownwriter
September 30th, 2009
1:51 am
The applewood bacon at Stone Soup on the southside is the best evah.
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Hal Boyd
September 30th, 2009
5:57 am
Count me in as another vote for Benton’s bacon. It is the best bacon I have ever eaten and is priced @ the high end of the grocery store brands. He also still gives you a pound for your money vs the 12 oz many of the one in the grocery sell now.
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Italian Diva
September 30th, 2009
6:01 am
If you like thin, crispy bacon, try Boar’s Head panceta. Panceta enhances the flavor of many foods, but it’s not intended as a breakfast meat, although I have crumbled it on a cheese grits casserole.
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Becky
September 30th, 2009
7:55 am
@Arealblkwmn, don’t knock it if you’ve never tried it..The Vermont Sandwich Co. has a peanut butter with banana and bacon sandwich that is awesome…
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HONGRE
September 30th, 2009
8:30 am
All this talk about BACON has made me VERY HUNGRY. I must search out the ultimate B L T for lunch today.
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Just Me
September 30th, 2009
9:11 am
Thick sliced bacon (really good quality), enough brown sugar to dredge it in, sprinkling of cayenne pepper………bake in the oven til crispy…….Pig candy HEAVEN!!
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I love bacon
September 30th, 2009
10:11 am
The best bacon that you can buy from a chain store is Wright’s Thick Sliced. If someone knows of anything better, I’ll be curious to try it.
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Matt Smith
September 30th, 2009
11:21 am
I ate 2lbs from the New Yourk Butcher Shop last night. It was awesome! I have been grilling it lately so good on the grill. Cooked a extra pound for lunch!
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Matt Smith
September 30th, 2009
11:25 am
I am hurting!
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Tyler PIke
September 30th, 2009
12:52 pm
My dad makes the best bacon. He won’t tell me where he gets it but I do sometimes get the good fortune to watch him cook it. He bastes it with some of his vinegar based BBQ sauce and then simmers it over charcoals that just barely have any juice left. Last time I had some of his bacon I woke up 6 hours later a mile down the road w/ my shirt around my waist, wearing a Sony Walkman that wasn’t mine playing ‘Free Bird’ over and over again.