It’s not safe at all! If the Mexican Authorities are warning Americans NOT to come to Mexico for Spring Break due to their very high crime rate in murder…then what do you think? I wouldn’t go period!
My wife and recently changed our plans to celebrate our 5 year anniversary in Cancun due to the violence in Mexico. We even had a free place to stay at a very nice condo. We are instead booking a cruise to the Caribbean. Safety is my biggest concern.
I am probably one of many that has booked a vacation in Mexico and can not get out of the reservation due to costly cancelation fees. I am going to try and keep my activities with groups and tour guides as aposed to freely traveling the area I will visit this month.
I was going to cancel my reservations on JetBlue.
When I called them, they didn’t know what I was talking about. Said they didn’t know about a State Dept. Alert. I am not going until May so I am in a wait and see mode…..Thanks for this story though and help us find out the airlines policies….
No worries here…just use a little common sense. Been three years in a row to Mexico on spring break with the family with no problems or concerns. I have also been on personal business in areas of Mexico where no gringos are probably within a hundred miles, often seeing armed military checkpoints along the way. Never felt truly unsafe, even though I was aware of some kidnappings. To insure your safety it’s simple… don’t wander around late at night in unfamiliar areas, don’t wear a lot of jewelry or flash a lot of cash and always be aware of your surroundings. Not much different than here in Atlanta. The Mexican people are by and large very friendly and gracious to tourists. Much more so in my opinion than some of the Carribean destinations I’ve been to before. Also, hard to believe but right now it is cheaper for us to go there than Florida… and guaranteed warm temperatures!
You know, if it wasn’t for the 21 National Minimum Drinking Age, college students wouldn’t even be going to Mexico for Spring Break. Put the drinking age back to 18, like it was for the baby boomers.
People should not be scared to go to Mexico for vacation or spring break if they travel to safer places, other than Ciudad Juarez or Tijuana for example, where drug cartel problems exist. Other areas of Mexico are not experiencing these problems and just because an advisory is put out for certain areas doesn’t mean you should avoid all of Mexico. I have lived north of Puerto Vallarta for 3 years and people are vacationing here and in Puerto Vallarta and enjoying Mexico. Mexico depends on tourism for its economy and the Mexican people and businesses who depend on tourists for their living will suffer when the the media puts out blanket statements about avoiding
Mexico.
My son and friends have reservations for a resort in Puerto Vallarta. Anyone know anything about the safety in this area? I am very nervous about him traveling in Mexico, but he says he isn’t able to get the $ back for the resort which was paid in advance. He has travel insurance so his flight would be covered but not the resort fees.
The sad part is that the most recent problems in Mexico are a DIRECT result of the US government’s failed War On Drugs. No, Mexico is a country rife with corruption, violent police, and financial and social problems caused by government monetary policy and a complete disrespect for property rights. That being said, if drugs were relegalized in this country (as they were before 1915), the drug crime problem in Mexico and the United States would disappear virtually overnight.
Don’t believe me? Just look at crime statistics during and after the end of alcohol Prohibition. The same organized crime activities of drive by shootings, killings over territory, police corruption, etc. were rampant and a direct result of the illegality of alcohol. Those same problems are present now because of the illegality of drugs. Millions in this country routinely use frugs without harming anyone but themselves (and even personal harm could be debated). It is the dealers and distributors that are involved in most of the violent crime, as well as users stealing to afford the black market inflated prices that would surely drop to affordable levels were they legal.
You don’t ever worry about a Budweiser and a Miller beer truck driver shooting it out on the street over territory. That competition is handled by salesmen in a non-violent manner. Likewise, CVS and Rite-Aid pharmacists would not be killing people in the street were they allowed to peacefully sell a defined, well-labelled, regulated substance that many peacefully wish to use. More violent crime is associated with people under the influence of alcohol than drugs, yet with one we learned our lesson of failure and the other, the failure continues.
Utopia, no. Still a medical problem? Yes. But considering the billions spent every year just on the judicial system costs let alone the other societal costs of the violence and the destroyed families, legalization is clearly the only workable, constitutional, and wise solution to the drug problem the government should be considering.
For the unfortunate victims in Mexico and our inner cities, it would certainly be a welcome blessing for their situations. Spring break would be just the beginning of safer times in Mexico and the US.
There are drug related murders in Miami, Detroit, and Atlanta regularly. Doesn’t mean the US is an overly dangerious country and the whole place should be avoided. The people in Mexico are mostly honest hardworking people. Don’t do drugs and criminal acts in Mexico and stay in the populated resort areas and there shouldn’t be a problem. I think it is a knee jerk reaction.
Im going to cancun mexico in about 2 weeks. my parents are going with me and my friends. But they are freakin out about all the drug cartel stuff.. is it safe to go? or should we try to relocate. I do not want to be some where that is very unsafe. go or not??
I just watched a special on this the other night. Two reporters went to Tijuana to investigate. They obtained a police radio scanner so that they could hear the murder calls come across the scanner.
They started out the day as the sun was coming up. The reporters followed murder call after murder call ALL day. The sun was going down when one reporter said: We’ve seen enough! (something like 6k murders last year?)
These were assignations not shootings! Machine guns, severed heads, etc. The reporters had to be escorted by armed guards every where they went.
They interviewed the chief of police who said the day before his election, 30 men rushed his home and tore it to shreds with machine guns. He got away. He was eventually fired from his position as chief and within one month, the next chief was assassinated.
It’s a VERY serious situation and I would not advise ANYONE to choose this as a resort destination at this time. An ounce of prevention…..
Notice that the alcohol supporters recognize the economic value of freedom too. States like Arizona and Wyoming and others used to also see positive economic benefit from the lower drinking age when other states around them were at 21. Restrictive Blue Laws and high taxation continue to benefit adjoining freedom loving states still. Big surprise. Personal responsibility is imperative, but freedom does work. Just look at the tourism business in Holland and more specifically Amsterdam. A wonderful city where both marijuana and prostitution coexist with everyone in charming neighborhoods filled with families, children and the elderly. No big deal.
Personally I never felt safe at all in Mexico as far back as the early 80’s. Shakedowns by corrupt police, unhealty water, abject poverty, poor roads. Maybe at some of the big tourist resorts like Cancun, Cabo San Lucas and other places on the Mexican Riviera, but any of the smaller border towns like Juarez, Tiajuana, or even more south like Ensenada are just powder kegs waiting to explode. The Drug War will be just one of the many sparks that lights the fuse.
MarShele…PV is very safe. I’ve been there the last two years for spring break and had no issues and I’ve seen about all there is to see there. Read my post above about using common sense. Although I went with my family and did not venture into the big off-resort drinking spots like Senior Frogs, PV has a good rep…more so than its neighbor to the south, Alcapulco. Cab drivers are a little crazy though.
Mexico, or for that matter, most of our cities right here in America, wouldn’t be dangerous if we once and for all ended the nearly half-century failure of the “war on drugs”!
Just as in the first Prohibition, where the consequences became far worse than the “cure”, drive-by shootings, gangsters & their violence & corruption of officials running rampant, and even increasing numbers of fatalities due to people drinking unregulated booze, we see the same, and worse today!
Oddly, it took this nation only a little more than 10 years to right this huge mistake, and it took a constitutional amendment to do so, yet we see decade after decade go by, with conditions only getting worse, until now we see more murders in Mexico, in one year, than our forces have suffered in six years of fighting a real war in Iraq!
Decriminalizing, regulating, and taxing drugs would not only be a boon to our economy, & allow law enforcement & the prison system to focus on violent criminals, but it would yank the rug out from under the drug cartels, & homeland gangs, by instantly removing the huge profits from their trafficking!
Me and my husband just returned from a resort in Cancun, Mexico on Feb 28th and we did not experience any problems. We stayed for 7 days, we walked to Downtown Cancun and took the bus to various locations. I am not sure what people are talking about when they are saying it is not safe.
Great, just great. Yet another thing for us parents to worry about! Thank goodness that won’t be an issue in my house. My 17 year old daughter will be in college next year & she knows such a thing is out of the question. I’m very strict with her. She’s not allowed out at night unless it’s with her dad & me; & on weekends she’s allowed to go to the library or shopping with the one friend my husband & I approve of. Boys/dating? OUT OF THE QUESTION! We insist she dress modestly in long loose dresses or blouse & skirt, her hair is kept plain & short & absolutely no make-up. We monitor everythig she reads, views & listens to. Of course she complains about being unpopular & being treated like a freak at school but what else can I do? Better unpopular than a victim of rape or murder.
I understand your concern about your daughter. But, you should know that once your daughter is off to college and turns 18, you will have no control over what she does or wears unless she lives at home. You have a higher chance of causing her to rebel (even if secretly) rather than keeping her “under control”. I would suggest teaching her how to be streetsmart and make smart decisions wherever she goes and no matter what she does. You cannot be at her side forever.
As for Cancun: I am waiting for more people living in the area to respond. That would be more helpful. Lots of murders and drive-bys happen just 30 miles from me in places like Compton/Lynwood. Where I live, its not dangerous at all. I hoping this is the case with Cancun since it is about 1400 miles away from all the serious fighting. More input from Mexican locals please!
The BORDER towns are the problem, not the rest of the country. Do you know how big Mexico is??? This hysteria is getting out of control. I just got back from Puerto Escondido, Oaxaca (that’s in Mexico). I was there for a month. NO PROBLEMS. If people take simple precautions anywhere when they travel, they will not run into problems.
If a college-aged child wants to go to Mexico (given that the child is not still living at home), there is nothing the parent can really do, no matter how “strict” the parents would like to be. Sometimes being overly strict backfires in that once the child goes off to college and learns how much fun he/she can have, they do things that would have been “out of the question” when at home. And, there’s nothing that the parent can do about it unless they plan on moving on-campus themselves to monitor the poor child. I’ve been there, so I do know what I’m talking about.
Everyone here is extremely overreacting. Violence along the border of Mexico is bad, but places like Acapulco and Cancun are safe enough for drunken spring break debauchery. Think of it like this: If the bloods and the crips were having an all out war in Chicago, a blood might shoot a crip in Miami Beach, but that doesn’t mean that Miami isn’t safe. There may be isolated incidents in resort towns, just as there is isolated violence in all major U.S. Cities. Bottom line: the reosrts are 1,000 miles away from the violent border cities. They are packed with people. You are fine to go.
I was in Cancun last weekend with a colleague and we had no problems, except for the return flight on Sunday being cancelled because of snow in Atlanta. The beach was beautiful and we did not feel unsafe at any time. Due to the downturn in the US economy, we saw more Canadians and wealthy Mexicans at our resort. Live your life and see the world for yourself! Do not give in to the fear mongering perpetuated by the American media.
Tijuana has more than 2 milion habitants and has many issues in the Eastern zones, (I DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET THERE) but why blame Rosarito Beach? With the new road you don’t even touch base in Tijuana to get there.
Spring Break will be safe and fun as always. Is like not going to Anaheim because of East LA killings!!! Come on guys…
For the record, in 2007 there were 16,929 murders,90,427 forcible rapes, with 1,408,337 violent crimes. Where??? The United States of America. I think things should be kept in perspective.
The State Dept didn’t say “don’t go to Mexico”, it said to use the same common sense precautions you’d use in the US—stay outa dark alleys & away from drug & prostitution areas. They have wisely advised to avoid Tijuana, Juarez, Matamoros, & other border towns….even including Rosarita Beach, tho we have friends who just returned from there, but they were a middle-aged couple, not college kids on break.
We just returned from Puerto Escondido, Zipolite, & Huatulco, & I’d assure you it’s a lot safer there than in a lot of places in the US. Don’t be deceived by the media furor, or government propaganda! Statistics say that if you’re 3 times more likely to be a victim of violence in the US than in Mexico, as long as you use the same precautions you’d use at home.
Mexico is an incredibly beautiful country, filled with friendly, helpful, & welcoming people. And many of them depend on tourism to pay their bills & feed their families. Go to any resort area, & you’ll have a great time, while helping out the people of Mexico.
Thanks John T. That makes me feel a little better. He has reserved a shuttle ride from the airport to the resort so may not have to deal with cab, however, maybe the shuttle is the same situation! Thanks again.
Mexico is not a safe vacation destinatio period. 30% of all non-natural deaths of U.S. citizens outside this country occur in Mexico. To read tragic Mexico vacation DEATH stories, many written by heartbroken family members visit:WWW.MEXICOVACATIONAWARENESS.COM
My 18 year old son was killed in a border town last march and he was using common sense not doing anything illegal and only barely had one beer in his system. Sometimes just being in a dangerous environment and looking like a duck out of water he was blonde green eyed muscular young man with a big smile and when he was found he was beaten to death. Guns didnt kill him, knives didnt kill him people did and they were young gang members that took him with no motive and beat him to death with sticks. I dont recommend any parent or person going near the border unless you want to go to a third world country and identify your child or relative in a morgue because that s always a possibility which is something I would never wish even on the parents of the people who murdered my son. Not good memories and there was nothing I could do to keep my son from going to mexico. He had his own money bought his own tickets and went no matter how much I told him “I don’t think it’s safe and to please stay away from the border.” When kids are young and think they are invincible they will do what they want. I still feel like if only I could have done something and feel if I could have handcuffed him to his door knob to keep him from going.. but, it happened.. and he was in the wrong place and met the wrong people and the only thing I believe he was trying to do was help someone else out that he saw that was being beaten. In America I believe most people adhere to good samaritan morals or rules and would put their self out there to help someone else and that was how my son was. I feel people do not practice that same thing in mexico if they see something they will turn their head and let you bleed to death in the street. They do not want to be involved. To me my son will always be a hero but, I just want to let other parents know that yes it can happen and sometimes you cant do anything to stop it no matter how much you warn your kids. I m glad that the warnings are getting out there because I saw nothing of the warnings last year and it was still really bad at that time it was just not being talked about. Also alot of deaths in mexico of american citizens are being reported in reports by our state department as “accidents”not ” homicides ” so I don’t feel that would give us correct numbers or correct information do you?
Being a regular traveller to Mexico I can tell you as long as you stick to the main tourist spots you will be fine.We have travelled to area’s such as Puerto Vallarta and Cancun on some occasions multiple times in a year with no sense of trouble or none of the tension or ”corruption” people speak of.We have always had a really good time and continue to travel to the region.With that being said the border towns such as Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and other towns well known for the drug trade should be avoided at all costs particularly now with the drug cartels battling it out.We have never been and will never go to the border towns, just far to corrupt and with the U.S. being where the drugs are going (or trying to get), the border towns are where the trouble lurks…Use your common sense when travelling anywhere in the world.Mexico has it’s problems but then again so does Canada, and right in your own backyard.You wouldnt walk into a drug dealing neighborhood in the U.S so why would you do it anywhere else?
Thank-you for writing about Son killed in Mexico. I sent my son your story and hopes he listens to your warning. He is going on a Mission trip Spring Break with his chruch and the minster has him and everyone else who is going convinced that it’s safe. Does anyone know or have been to Piedras Negras? Its on the board across from Eagle Pass.
I have had a house in Acapulco since 1992, and I have been to DF, TJ, and CJ many times in the last few years. I read the police blotter of El Sol and Novedades newspapers everyday. Almost all the big crimes occur outside of town or else in bad neighborhoods (e.g., Zapata, Renacimiento) that tourists have no reason to go to in the first place. Every year, three or four American tourists die in Acapulco, but I cannot think of any due to political or drug violence. The major factor in 90% of the cases is traffic accidents.
So, don’t drive here and be super careful crossing the street.
This is a great place for spring break, and you don’t need a high priced package, because there are many cheap hotels, restaurants, stores, night clubs, etc. (as well as the pricey places).
i was in tijuana mon and tues mar. 2 & 3 for a dentist appointment..i went with a friend and we stayed in a hotel there..lots of police on the street which made me feel very safe..we had no problems…as for acapulco, i was there three times last year and i am on my way back the week of march 16th…i was in cancun in jan. 09 and had a wonderful time..no problems..i drink alcohol with friends at the clubs but i do not get stupid drunk…do not use drugs so there are no problems… anywhere you go you can be a victim of crime. the only crime i saw was people trying to sell you junk on the beach..lol.enjoy your vacations in mexico…
there is problems like in every other country. Some times I’m scared to be in the US just thinking everyone has a gun!!! We are just victims of a panic campaing. If you travel, of course you have to be careful and follow the rules. If you just want to get drunk and do whatever, then you will probalby get in trouble. We need some criteria instead of believing everything we say…The bottom line is: we are the ones buying drugs and we are the ones selling arms to Mexico mafias.
Mexico is a beautiful country with some much to offer beyond the beaches… and this drug war is in specific areas, not every where you go.
2008 saw more people killed in Mexico than were killed in either Iraq or Afghanistan…would you go do Spring Break in Iraq? Seriously, why risk losing your head traveling to Mexico…besides, KEEP AMERICAN DOLLARS IN AMERICA.
Worried Mom: What you should be woried about is the problems your daughter will have as a result of your sheltering her from a normal, human experience. Wearing makeup and making new friends does not invite rape and murder. Keeping your child locked in the basement throughout her adolesence, however, will leave her completely unable to cope with the real world. That poor girl is going to snap one day and act out in a way that WILL invite problems into her life.
i am going to Puerto Vallarta and i plan to get wasted 16 to 20 hours per day! dont buy drugs or wander around along if your a girl. (if you are a girl thinking of wandering around along look me up)
[...] college kids prepare for Spring Break, many are receiving warnings from their schools and parents about a favorite destination: Mexico. Escalating violence between [...]
I just returned from Cancun last week and it was as fantastic as always. The fact that some crimes happened in downtown Cancun doesn’t have anything to do with the safety in the Hotel Zone. It is rare for tourists to go downtown anyway, nor would you go to an area in your own town that may possibly be dangerous. The media loves to put a one sided twist on everything because that is what draws attention, but even if you were to stay at home all day something could happen. So, please use normal common sense and enjoy all the beauty that Mexico and Cancun has to offer.
Alan, this article deals with TRAVEL so it was placed in the TRAVEL section. If you want to talk CRIME then look in the Metro/ State section you dumba**.
I think the “Worried Mom” response was made up, it sounded bogus to me. If not, then it’s very sad. Part of your job as parent is not only to keep your kids safe but also prepare them to live on their own in the world. Sheltering them from everything isn’t the answer. You give them bits of responsibility as they grow while they are still in your home so you are their safety net. Wearing makeup doesn’t make you a prostitute. Haven’t you heard of moderation? A young lady can dress modestly, wear natural looking makeup and go on a date without being “ruined”. Just set some ground rules that have to be followed.
I think that the economy is going to cause more college kids to stay home than the fear of violence. My college aged nephew has been on spring break this past week and he and his friends didn’t go on a trip to Mexico or even Florida.
I think if these kids use common sense and caution they should be ok if they stay in the resort areas and don’t go off the beaten path. However, common sense and caution doesn’t come naturally to college kids so it might be best if they stayed closer to home.
I think this’d be one of the greatest jobs ever! On Millennium (Celebrity), the domestic staff was elevated to ombudsman status; Caribbeans. But on the down side they can exact showcase talent. Any qualifier could likely find more durable entertaining work. RCCL count so heavily on the shows to carry the reputation.
If your family is anything like my in-laws, DON’T DO IT. Even though we all are fortunate to have enough money to vacation separately, we go on a family vacation every year. It is HORRIBLE. Every year all the “kids” (grown adults) dread the vacation but somehow feel forced to go anyway. It is agony. I literally start dreading the next year’s vacation on the last day of the current year’s vacation. It causes me and my sister-in-laws SO much stress because my mother-in-law is evil and no one likes her. I am very grateful to have a family and a place to stay, but I can honestly say that I would prefer to stay home and go to work. One year I did not go and it caused ALL kinds of drama. Good grief, no vacation is better than this vacation!
I’ve always spent a lot of time visiting with family and friends. I’m fortunate to have several weeks a year off work and I love to travel. My budget doesn’t allow for as much as I’d like. Staying with family and friends makes it possible. When I go to my little sister’s house I feel like I’m at a spa. I’m always treated like royalty. I’ve even visited with my best friend’s family and with my father’s Navy buddies. Being shown around by the locals makes it special. No tourist traps for me. I always try to make myself useful and not be a burden. It also helps to prepare a meal or two for my hosts or take them out.
Hey Keith — Love the phrase “friends and family” tour — very cute!! We are having a family of 5 come to stay with us this summer from Washington DC. We visited with them last spring break and the kids all got along so well we thought it would be big fun to have them come and stay with us. The mom has never been to Atlanta so she’s excited to see the South. Each family will have two bedrooms and a bath. We’ve got a big backyard so I think in between sigh seeing with them the kids will just run and play out back. I think it’s going to be so much to have them here and other than gas and some tourism costs basically a free vacation for them. I think it’s such a nice old-fashioned concept to see new places and stay with family and friends — plus it does save money.
Were plannin a family vacation over the spring break next month, we’ll be staying in a cabin in Pigeon Forge TN. Along with our parents, there will be 7 siblings and our families for a total of ~23 people. 4 of the 7 siblings have been laid off, so the 3 working siblings will be picking up most of the cost. Fortunately, we all get along great, in-laws and all and we love getting the kids (ages 4-14) together. We’re all looking forward to it!
We are getting ready to leave on a cruise for spring break. We are going to Catalina and Ensenada. We have been following the news and researching on the internet, but still don’t feel like we’re getting the answers we are looking for. At this point we have decided to stay on the boat when we get to Ensenada. We just don’t want to take the chance. There are eight of us going including my mom and dad and my two sisters and their husbands. Some of us have been to Mexico many times before and now we just don’t feel safe. Does anyone know if the boat actually docks at Ensenada or are we to take smaller boats in? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
I work with the Travel Channel online team and the Switzerland episode mentioned in the post is actually the upcoming episode on Monday March 23rd. In addition to snowboarding, he also competes in Schwingen (Swiss wrestling). There is a preview on his YouTube page http://www.youtube.com/dhanijones.
Yup – and I review the sites before I book a hotel room. It’s a way to help make an informed decision about where to stay. You can usually tell the nit picky complaints from a reoccurring theme (as in one REALLY bad hotel (super smokey and RUDE) that I stayed in Chicago)
I think it’s all about intent: What do you want to get out of this? If you just want to vent to make yourself feel superior, then it’s a waste of time. And it should be constructive feedback, not just whining. And I do feel people have become just plain rude and demanding. But yes, ultimately, they’re trying to get my money for their service, so it’s worth it to keep them accountable and hopefully make things better for the next person, and your visit.
Tripadvisor.com & Yahoo travel are the best travel sites on the web for reviews. I check it for hotels reviews and locale info. I also tell the hotel desk that I post reviews, good and bad, and they will be reviewed. It’s amazing how well you are often treated when you mention Tripadvisor, even when I have a Hotwire or Priceline res. The info should be out there so the public can make good purchasing decisions.
I frequently check Trip Advisor for hotel and activity ratings. I frequently post reviews but try not to be too negative. I generally have middle of the road expectations so I don’t get too diappointed unless its really bad… One such negative review related to a multi day hotel stay with NO hot water. Management kept saying it was going to be fixed. I unded up speaking with one of the repairmen on the day I was leaving and he said the part had just arrived and mgmt knew when to expect it.
when reading reviews, I generally toss out the most extreme on both the negative and positive ends of the spectrum.
i think it was cool that someone like yourslf would even think of doing something like swiss wrestling. I know because i use to swiss wrestle here in california, good job Dhani, p.s. you have a new fan.
My boyfriend and I are talking about a beach wedding this fall. He loves Tybee Island. We both agree it has to be very small, informal, just us, his daughter and mine. Do we need witnesses, or can the justice of the peace bring his wife or something?
My husband I got married at Helton Creek Falls and the whole wedding party (and what a paerty it was!) took over Amicalola State Park just north of Dawsonville Ga. We rented out all the cabins and most of the lodge for a three day wedding party, had the ceramony IN the falls at Helton Creek and the reception at The Smith House in Dalonaga. Our friends have been back several times and still rave about the wonderful non pompous wedding…by the way…we live all the way in Tampa FL and had people come in from 5 states and as far away as Utah. It didn’t break the budget, heck, hardly touched the budget and was so very perfect and we couldn’t have asked for a better “destination” wedding!
It pains me to think about and relive my experience with clothing optional beaches. My experience in Cancun was quite alarming to say the least. Ironically, my particular resort was not clothing optional, however, the beach was not closed off. The nudies tended to wander down toward our end of the beach. Truly I believe that the body is a beautiful design, and when taken care of it is a pleasure to behold. Now back to reality. Ideal bodies are not always the case. But, to each his own. I just believe retirement communities and clothing optional beaches should not combine. At least that appeared to be the case. Or maybe they just offered discounts to seniors. (I know that not all seniors have given in to gravity, but largely it is the case!) I blame the magazines. Dammit Plaboy! You ruined it with your perfect bodies. Thanks a lot Hugh! (Smile)
Nude people are rather a Ho Hum affair. Being nude with a large crowd is forgettable in about 20 minutes. We are increasingly getting over our Victorian prudishness and starting to get a grip on reality…this is good. Maybe the sin shouters will be over whelmed by large nude demonstrations and protests…this is VERY good. They control you through sex remember? Everybody does it, over and over so make it a sin…I am for reducing the clown quotient in America.
I have often wondered what it would be like. I have to agree with the above person who posted the fist comment. The human body is beautiful by design. I’m writing a story about a nude beach. Perhaps I should go, for information puposes.
Lol, why is that here, is CEO of Delta is a nudist? Wouldn’t there be a risk of one of his employees spot him from the air, haha. Was the landing gear down or raised, lol. That is one of the most retarded letters I’ve ever seen. Well, in the last 48 hours, anyway. What is it with old people and the CAPS key, anyway? Maybe she should go to a nudist beach and chill out, she will feel better.
Well Delores. I don’t know how you knew I would read this nudist article but you did. I guess that is what they mean by anticipating where the puck will go. Anyway, got your message and I will talk to the Delta website guys, all of my representatives and all of my customer service people and tell them to function properly. Sorry. Rich
WE went to Hawaii for a wedding a few years ago…of course the couple was from the West Coast, and so was 90% of the guests. Surprisingly there were over 150 people there…it really was awesome and it was a great excuse to go visit the other side of the US!
Nude is the way god made us. Could it be that our problems with nudity, etc. are the source of so many of our sexual, interpersonal, and body image problems? No, must be something else.
Funny how we claim to be the freeest nation on earth (so far off at this point that even the claim should bring a smirk to your face) yet what you don’t, what you put into your body, what you do with your body, etc. are the least free things in our society.
Besides, if you run accross a guy hiking nude in the cold Alps, how much will there be visible to offend your sensibilities anyway.
Why do people have a problem with the naked body. We all have one. People shield their kids from nudity, GASP, that person has a body, just like everyone else. Stupid. I walk around my house nekkid all the time. Freedom. I hate wearing clothes.
I think the reason Delta is included is because the TSA is so paranoid and so ineffective, we will all likely be forced to fly naked soon just to make sure we aren’t smuggling anything like a toothpick that could be used to blow up a plane.
I only take nude vacations. If I can’t go nude, I don’t go at all. And lucky for me, there are lots of available options. My favorites are Cape d Agde in France and Club Orient on St Maartin.
I have no problem with nudity at all. In fact, I’m frequently nude inside and outside my home. People should get over their insecurities and accept that everyone had a body.
Nudity is Ok (inside your home) in my book. Not because I’m prudish but as people have mentioned you have to take the good with the bad and you see a lot more bad then good.
I have to think the Dalores post is either a joke or a mean-spirited action because who really posts their personal information to the web?? I reported the comment simply because of the personal information (not to mention it had nothing to do with the article.) Hopefully it will be removed.
It’s the same old story — always, the ones that should cover up the most are the ones that think they’re the sexiest/most attractive. Jeff Foxworthy did a relevant routine about this subject. Most people aren’t that great-looking with their clothes ON; I sure don’t want to pay to see them jiggle and sag!
My husband and I have gone to Orient Beach in St. Martin for the past two years. We don’t stay at Club Orient, but we walk down to the nude beach to sun bathe. I like it, he loves it, and it’s great to keep the fires burning. The people who frequent the nude beaches and resorts are respectful of others, and there is no staring. That comes from the US tourists off the cruise ships. I’ve seen a father and his young teen sons repeatedly walk the nude beach, just to get an eyeful.
Hikers on the Appalachian Trail have a week in the summer when they hike in the buff. I don’t remember which week, but my son hiked the Trail and honored the undress code along with most of the rest of them.
Those of you that prefer all your nudes to be in pristine shape evidently don’t “get it”. the Victorian attitude towards nudity that we have all been subjected to are only as archaic as the the idea that everybody needs to match a certain standard before they can take their clothes off. No, I am not 5′5″ and 5 feet tall. In fact, I am 6′ 3″ and an athletic build. But many of my friends at the clothing optional resort in which I reside full time are far from perfect in regards to their bodies – but if the body is all you care about, I doubt you can be more shallow without getting out of the pool completely.
Our community enjoys a vibrant and healthy social life. The friendships that I have formed here are as close as any I have ever had. The idea is not to compare bodies, but hearts.
I don’t take nude vacations, but one of the resorts I go to has a nude beach. It is completely separate from the clothing side as to not “offend” anyone and protects the nudies from gawkers. It is completely non-sexual and there is no swinging or swapping. It is relaxing to lay out in the sun and don’t have to worry about damp swimsuits, tan lines, etc. Everyone should try it at least once.
I tried to find some info on Hike Naked Day 2009, and instead found this Web site: http://www.hikingnaked.com/. The regional page is broken down by state, and there are several naked hikers in Georgia.
My favorite battlefield in Ga. is Chicamauga. Its the only one where you can actually get a feel for the battle. The rest are really in bad shape. Its a travesty…
As noted, we were born nude. I imagine that we did run around nude for a time back “in the beginning, and I imagine that the daily scrapes, bruising,etc, as well as things dangling and jiggling called for an invention to cover things up. Back then folks probably saw it as perverted to cover up and use the “new fangled invention” called clothes, just as folks see nudity as perverted. It is all a cycle. Who knows, maybe one day we will be back to total nudity only to realize/remember how much more comfortable it was to keep from getting scraped, caught, pinched, burned, frostbit, etc.
Its NUDE, not LEWD ! Few people have perfect bodies. Thats what you will encounter at a nudist resort, any of the 3 or 4 in North Georgia. Nudity breaks down social barriers. You can’t tell a banker from a bus driver. You won’t find staring when everyone is nude! Nothing better than jumping in the pool or hot tub, and having the sun’s rays dry you off. Its the least sexually charged place you will experience.
I always enjoy it when the slightest hint of criticism causes someone to accuse someone else of being a “Christian hater”, yet when some fundamentalist ultra-conservative type Christian stands up and demands that books they don’t like be removed from all libraries, they are just “defending their faith”.
JTEX—get used to it…it’s called freedom of speech, which you obviously believe that you and your nudy left-wing buddies hold the monopoly on…I’ll gladly take the hit as a “fundamentalist ultra-conservative type” on behalf of the rest of those who are clothed and in their right mind…
I remember when I first joined the Army & saw my first uncircumcised man. I remember it looked like an anteater with goiters. I was deeply saddened because I knew then that he would never know love. I don’t wish to see this on the beach anymore than I would wish to see a dead catfish.
My husband I got married at Helton Creek Falls and the whole wedding party (and what a paerty it was!) took over Amicalola State Park just north of Dawsonville Ga.This is really a wonderful place.Log on kissBBW.c o m.and you ;ll know more about it.There are many big beautiful women ,hot and sexy,waiting for you.
Going nude is wonderful. I do it at home and at nudist camps and beaches. The freedom is wonderful. And when you’re surrounded by others who are nude, you get that feeling that we truly are all the same. The class “barriers” are broken. Frankly, those who’ve never gone to nude beaches or camps should try it at least once before they criticize anyone. Sure there are jerks who will come to stare or do something stupid, but that’s when you alert management or police. Oh-many beaches have lifeguard/police patrols and camps and other resorts often have their own security. We do need to get over our negative attitudes about nudity.
cj – I walk around naked in front of my kids……got a problem with that? Too bad……my house, my rules. sorry you are such a prude. you probably shower with clothes on……
CJ, I am part owner of a small nudist property in central Florida, I am as conservative as most people you know.
The majority of members at my club are conservatives!
I have a family, and yes my children are nudists too, I go to church, I believe in GOD, I tithe, I pay my taxes and probably a large portion of yours… On my more liberal side, I believe abortions are bad, but I don’t think they should be outlawed, that is between a woman and her maker, I don’t care if a gay couple gets married or has a civil union, whatever you call it… and, I am a nudist!
There are no sex shows going on at a nudist resort, there are no public stripper poles, there are no lap dances, it is NOT about perversion, it is about freedom and enjoying yourself.
Loosen up.
Nudity by itself should not be offensive. However, overt sexual behavior in a public place is not a good idea!
It is also hard to understand the tone of the original article, the writer seems surprised that there are actually nudist resorts in GA “and some EVEN allow the entire family.”
Children who are raised to not be offended by the human body make great physicians and scientists, they have not been taught shame. Shame is not a productive trait, go back and watch “Oh God” with George Burns.
Nudist resorts and nudist activities are everywhere! Seek and you shall find one near you. If you run across naked hikers in the future, and it bothers you, look them in the eye, not below the belt, it may be your son or daughter!
I’ve been a nudist and have been going to Paradise Valley (formally Hidden Valley)for 16 years. Anyone that hasn’t been there (or to any nudist resort) can’t possibly know enough to even make a comment. Before I went , I could count the close friendships I had on one hand. The close friendships I have now are more than I could have ever imagined. Visiting a nudist resort is nothing like a lot of the post here seem to think it is. It is definitely not about sex, it’s about freedom.You meet people as they really are without all of the preconcieved judgements clothing creates. When you are nude you don’t know if the person next to you is the CEO of a national company,a doctor (I’ve met several)a Lawyer (we do forgive them for that)a celebrity (yes met some too) or just an average person like myself.
My husband and I are both members of the American Association for Nude Recreation (AANR), and we take at least one Nakation (nude vacation) per year. Our five children always go with us. All of the resorts we have visited have been family-friendly and wonderful. Before you knock the nudists, visit http://www.aanr.com and read more about it. You will wish you had become a nudist sooner.
Nude vacations are the most inexpensive way to travel. I recommend it to everyone. My favorite resorts are Abbott’s Glen in Vermont and Cypress Cove in Florida.
Being German and being familiar with the German lifestyle, I have no problems with nudity. For instance, in Germany whole families go to the bath houses where one would enjoy the bath right next to grandma and uncle and cousins and siblings. American people definitely would have a problem with that, but, as for not throwing the baby out with the bath water…. at least one can enjoy the accommodations available to them to be “in” with nature, among other like-minded adults, free of all societies stigmas. But it sure would be nice to not have these resorts overrun by a slew of people with naked body complex or to bring with them their puritan attitudes. Maybe all newbies should start out on the “beginner slope” !!
Cool Hand Luke…. lol ! Catfish are not likely to show up on the beach unless your “beach” might be a swampy lake down a dirt road and if that’s the case watch out for those campgrounds with low hanging fruit they are everywhere!!! As far as the natural male appendage, being skinned is not the beauty God designed men with. All men that are natural in that way would rarely want to be cut, but, alot of men that have been peeled would give anything to undo the damage. Granted there are a few oddities of nature but for the most part most uncut men have tools that are, well, run of the mill. If you went campin’ with me you would likely get over your penis envy! But as for the type of beaches, you may see a dead catfish or even a carp or a beer can.
I have done it many times and have enjoyed it thoroughly. Consider the phrase it is hard to be a snob when you are naked. You get to know people based on who they are not whether they are waiting the latest thing from Anne Kelin or Armani. Besides, after awhile, you don’t think about people are naked or not. It would be like going to a party where everybody is wearing red and you alone are wearing green. It also is about as comfortable as you can get. Just remember one thing-remember if you desire to be weird sexually nude places really are not where you want to be. People don’t put up with crap like that.
Are you serious?!? Let’s just invite all of the communists and socialists to come into our country in take over … oh wait … we just did by electing Obama into office!
Yes, my wife and I would love to go there. It’s probably one of the few places in the world that hasn’t been infected by McDonalds, Disney, and the other “garbage” that passes for American “culture”.
Absolutely, I would be fascinated to be able to go to Cuba and see for myself what conditions there are. It has always seems odd to me that I can travel to Korea or China or Iran or Afghanistan, none notable democracies, but I cannot go to Cuba. Especially because one of our complaints about Castro is he will not let his citizens travel freely.
Would love to go. But, I am curious about a comparison in the article that says the city of Detroit has as many hotel rooms as the entire country of Cuba. I can’t believe it! You mean to tell me that people actually go to Detroit?
Shannon…The Question is…Are YOU Serious? This is just the outdated thinking that has gotten this Country into the state it is in Now. Thanks to the decision making of a Conservative, outdated, ill-informed, C-Student President (Bush). Wow!! Have you had your head Stuck in the Sand? We now have an informed, ultra Modern, Intelligent and Academic President, who makes hard decisions by being fully informed. Hey…Don’t knock Socialism just yet…at lease in a socialist State you don’t have to pay for education and medical coverage….from where I’m sitting, that just keeps looking better and better by the Day.
Parents went to Cuba on their honeymoon in 1947. I have a lot fo souveneirs from their trip and would love to visit!
As for that jackass “Shannon”….who the heck is inviting anyone to take over our country? What a jerk!
NO, US representatives that have visited Cuba recently have not visited any of the thousands of the political prisoners on the island. They are ignoring the fact that the current government has no intentions of allowing any form of free speech or free communication. We will only be injecting US cash into the pockets of a 50 year old dictatorship that has no vested interest on the human rights of it’s population.
Wanda, you say: “at lease (sic) in a socialist State you don’t have to pay for education and medical coverage.”
Are you kidding me? Do you think education and healthcare just fall out of the sky? Taxpayers pay for those services through significantly higher. It’s your kind of “government = no price” thinking that will bankrupt this country. Your ignorance is insulting.
Democrats never met a Communist they didn’t like. Nevermind this country is guilty of human rights violations and oppression of its people. Who cares? Certainly not the Democratic Black Caucus who recently visited, hobnobbing with Castro himself while demeaning their home country, the United States. Disgusting. Do us a favor, next time make it a ONE-WAY ticket.
Having lived and worked there (I am Canadian) I find the place endlessly interesting and not at all as the American press propagandises.
yes the economy is inefficent in many areas but for a Latin country pretty good.
And I hate to drag this up, but if one is poor and sick, best to be a Cuban than an American.
I learned many lessons there and on was to note that the American press can uniformly trash a country with out regard to the facts. And yes there are lots of Americans there defying there own Govts. wishes.
I can’t wait to go. I’ve been wanting to visit for years. I hope that all restrictions are lifted. If we can visit and trade with the Soviet Union and China, why not Cuba? Oh, I forgot. Black people live in Cuba!
Hasn’t anyone heard the old saying about keeping your friends close and enemies closer? What people fail to realize is that after time almost all communist regimes have fallen once the western influences have traveled through and discovered what was really going on inside those countries, socially, emotionally and politically. I think that U.S. travelers being allowed inside Cuba will help way more than allowing Cuba to fester without exposure to the mainstream U.S.
I’ll go. I’d like to be as educated as I can be about the country, and see people’s reactions, listen to stories, and try to understand what is really going on within Cuba, as opposed to relying on what our government (or anyone else’s) wants me to think about it.
Don’t you think that the people of Cuba would have things a little easier over time, since their government will have to be a little more careful in how they treat their citizens when plenty of U.S. eyes and ears are there?
We’ve been saving by staying in state for our vacations. Using sites like the ajc and exploregeorgia.org to find travel deals and look for those “undiscovered gems” that make for great weekend getaways.
We’re lucky that our lifestyle has not been affected by the economy. It has actually helped us! Thanks to slow sales, the resort we are going to in September offered a deal and we were able to upgrade to the penthouse suite for only 100 bucks more for the week! We are also already booked for spring break 2010- and the kids travel free!! Good times!
We are renting a condo at the beach but we are eating in instead of out while we are there. Also, we will not spend money on any shopping trips while we are there.
Yes, it’s only fair. If an overweight passenger prevents the person in the adjacent seat from being able to comfortably use that seat, then the overweight person is taking away from what the other passenger paid for.
I think it’s fair, yes. I agree that if I could help the obese passenger by moving MY seat, I would but frankly I haven’t been on many flights where there were numerous seats available where I could exercise that option. We pay to have a seat on a plane. We basically rent the seat and the space for the duration of the flight. If the fat rolls on a particular person are so large that they interfere with my comfort and safety, then they should absolutely be required to buy a bigger seat.
I don’t mind being squished against the window or shoved into the aisle a bit by an overweight passenger. To be fair, that’s happened to me only three times in many, many flights. It’s the screaming kids (on almost every flight) that drive me up the wall.
As it should be! I only hope Delta follows suit. As a frequent Delta flyer I have endured too many uncomforatable flights when the person sitting beside me spilled over in to my seat (sweat and all). If you require the space of two seats, you should pay for two seats.
I agree, they should pay more. We all pay for/rent a seat and expect reasonable comfort. I don’t expect not to rub shoulders/arms occasionaly, but no way should anyone be subjected to someone elses gurth literally laying on you for a flight. It is also unsafe if anything were to happen on the flight and it just isn’t right. It should be handled in a way to preserve there dignity as much as possible but it is what it is. You have to pay extra for oversized luggage that sits next to luggage for pete’s sake, absolutely a person that ways considerably more, takes up the space of two or more people should be expected to pay up.
You people have it all wrong! Do as the government does..
Borrow money for your vacation! Twice as much as you need!! Have a blast and let your children worry about paying it back. That is the progressive thing to do. And after all…, the same thing Congress is doing to America.
As a frequent flyer and a larger person I was on the side of I pay for my ticket and I fit in the seat so leave me alone. But, on a recent flight from LAX I had an empty seat next to me and hoped it remained so. But… I saw him coming down the aisle, the biggest man I have ever seen on a plane and I just knew he was coming to sit on/by me. I fit in my seat and I can fasten the seat belt but he couldn’t. He was by the window and took up his seat and half of mine. He had his own seat belt extender. the arm rest wouldn’t go down. He should have paid for 2 seats.
What bothers more is women being able to carry a fairly large infant on board and sit with the child on “her lap”. Couple that with a fat woman and it is miserable. Fat and with child should equal purchasing an extra seat.
Absolutely–if you don’t fit in one seat, you should pay for two. That said, perhaps airlines should start installing a couple of seats that are a bit wider (maybe 1.5 times normal size). I’m not a very large person, but I flew internationally with my ex who’s 6′4″ and about 260. He fit in his seat just fine (though his poor legs were cramped). besides, if you really weigh *that* much, you’re sucking up more gas. Fair’s fair.
I think this is the best rule the airline came up with and I think all airlines should follow. I went to LA this past summer from Atlanta and had a large man sitting in the middle. I was at the window and another flyer was in the aisle seat. The flight attendent didn’t give him 1 extended seat belt but 3 total. I cant sit here with my knees bent towards window. I told her I will get off the plane and take another flight before I sit here this long. Me and her went back and forth with the problem until I told her if I need you to give me 1/2 of my ticket price back because I paid for a seat ,but yet I am sitting in half of my seat and the other half is being shared by this man next to me. Finally they found me another seat and I couldn’t been happier.
Airlines are not buffets, but rather more akin to traditional restaurants where you pay for what you eat. You should absolutely pay for the space you occupy. Either pay for 2 seats or buy a 1st class ticket. It isn’t my responsibility to accommodate your irresponsibility at the dinner table by tolerating your amorphic, gelatinous rolls in my lap, on my leg, etc. Consider this: If we are neighbors, both paying rent or owning our homes, would you tolerate my piling up my belongings in your living room because I can’t fit them in my house?
Here’s a concept: stop shoving people in like cattle, and give them 2″ extra inches of seat space in coach. Make *everybody* more comfortable, and save overweight people embarassment.
If you aren’t fat, then you do not know how embarassing it is, nor how incredibly uncomfortable, to do all you can to squish into a seat and not impinge on your neighbor’s space. And what about people who can’t afford business seats? Callously tell them not to fly?
Not all fat people are the same size nor dimensions. I carry my weight in my thighs/hips, which means I need an extender and I can fit into a single seat, although painfully so. (I do buy upgrades when I can afford them.) There are also plenty of fat people who have skinny legs, have no problem fitting in their seats from the waist down, but are huge up top, and spill into your seat from that direction.
The fact is that at least 60% of the American population is overweight. But public transportation doesn’t reflect that nor give sway for changes in pysiology over the past 50 years. I have more room on my bus ride home than I do on an airplane!
I want a refund for every skinny person who has sat next to me stinking to high heaven because they apparently have no clue how to shower; or has drowned themselves in cologne; or has a baby that screams and cries half the flight; or yacks my ear off; or snores like a truck.
AIRLINES SHOULD REVERT TO THE WIDER SEATS OF THE ’50s AND STOP SCREWING THE FLYING PUBLIC. SQUEEZING PASSENGERS INTO SEATS ONLY LARGE ENOUGH FOR A 3 YEAR OLD TO SIT IN COMFORTABLY IS NOT ONLY CRUEL , IT’S DOWNRIGHT GREEDY.
why draw the line at the size of a person? I had to spend 75% of a 9 hour flight next to a thin person who snored like a buzz saw and drooled on top of that. A breath mint might have been nice as well. It was so loud I couldn’t rest comfortably. I was also afraid something was going to fly out his mouth and hit me. Did I have a pleasant flight? NO! I would have rather had someone with good oral hygiene who spilled over a little in to my seat.
Yes, I not only think it’s fair, but it’s about time. I’m not overweight, but I’m not small, and I have had to sit next to too many people that take up what little space I’ve paid for.
Man you people are some whiners!!!! Want some cheese with that whine???
It’s not fair…….I had to sit next to blah blah blah….
Should you charge fat people extra at a buffet? Should there be a scale at the door? If you weigh over 250, you pay twice as much. But if you weight under 250, you get regular pricing? I’m a light eater, but a friend of mine can eat two pizzas in one sitting, but he only weights 210, and is over 6 feet tall. Should he be charged more at the buffet cuz he eats more than I do?
When does it end? How do you make EVERYONE happy?????
Should grocery stores charge for fat people in the aisles that you can’t get around. They are occupying space……
Should playgrounds be made larger for fat kids? Wider slides?
Should auto makers charge more for a larger vehicle for fat people?
Airlines should widen the seats or remove a few rows of seats to give passengers extra room. Obesity has been proven to be a disease. This disease should not prevent a paying passenger from traveling without added fees.
If airline seat designers can design First-Class seats that fold into complete beds, then they should be able to design a seat that could adjustably accommodate multiple sizes.
My dislike is when a large person raises the armrest without asking so that they can have half of my seat. My preference would be to require for the passenger to be required to pay for first class with the larger seats or to pay for two seats in coach.
By the way what happens on ASA where the seats are really small and the bathrooms are probably inaccessible for some of the passengers described in earler posts.
Yes and No, Yes because it is uncomfortable for the person sitting next to them, and No because it is discrimination. Make planes with larger seats to accommodate overweight passengers. Should the movie theater charge an overweight person for two seats at the theater because the same thing happens there. Also if obesity is on the rise, then maybe these places should make changes to coincide with the rise in obesity.
All obesity is not caused by a disease/medication. Some need to except that they just like to overeat period. Storm, your analogies are all over the place and don’t negate the arguments presented here.
It is certainly a problem with the overall amount of space given to begin with, I am a size XS to S with womanly hips and some airline seats are snug for me in the hip area. BUT, there is a BIG problem with obesity in this country and most of it is not a disease (although maybe psychological) so somethings need to be done. Paige and Darryl, I couldn’t agree more… on a flight there is NOTHING worse to me than screaming children which seems to happen on almost every single flight now and that is much more disruptive than a large person taking some of your space. Make parents pay extra whose kids disrupt the ENTIRE plane and not just the person sitting next to them!
Whether or not they are required to purchase two seats you should just do what I do. Just refust to raise the armrest. If they can fit on thier side then no problem…if not they have a problem because that armrest is not going anywhere tubby.
If there aren’t two adjacent seats available and the “large” person pays extra because they don’t fit in their seat, should the person in the seat where the “fat” hangs over be given compensation? Why do I pay full price when part of my seat is occuppied by a “wide body”? Yes, charge them more, but be fair to the person who is not given an option to give up part of their seat.
Absolutely obese people should be charged for additional space. Airlines DO offer wider seats and that’s in FIRST CLASS!! If you don’t want to pay for the wider seat, then buy TWO in coach so that you don’t infringe upon other paying customers. I’ve actually had to remove someone from a flight because they took up two seats. And NO you don’t get compensation for being removed either because you KNOW you should have paid for two seats. Boeing, Airbus, McDonnell-Douglas, etc… aren’t making the coach any wider. Just make your butt SMALLER!
Stevie, its even better when you have the seats usually bulkhead or exit aisles that have fixed armrests. I saw an instance where the passenger would not fit in to one of those seats and he was moved next to a very unhappy new seat mate. Full planes on Friday are a pain
Wow. I’ve always been overweight, and thank God I’ve never met any of you self-centered fat people haters! I require a seat belt extender, but do not “spill over” into the next seat and keep the armrest down. So I should pay for an extra seat because I need a seat belt extender? P.S. If you’ve never had a weight problem you don’t have a clue. If I thought I could get rid of the weight by using a carving knife (with or without anesthesia) I’d start cutting. All of us don’t eat whole boxes of Twinkies and cartons of ice cream. Yes, I overeat – but I’ve seen plenty of skinny people eat more at the buffet than I do. It’s like the t-shirts say “I might be fat, but you’re ugly…and I can always lose weight.” Feel free to subsitute “rude,” “conceited,” “self-centered,” etc. for the word “ugly.”
Obese people should have to pay. Flying is a pain anyway, even when you aren’t sitting next to goliath. If I have to be inconvienced by a extra large person while flying, there is no reason they shouldn’t be inconvienced by paying more or upgrading to first class.
When the cost of being obese starts to burden the obese, they may start doing something about it. With our medicare, medicaid, and welfare; most obese people aren’t having to pay a thing in health coverage for being so fat. I think a “fat tax” on fatty’s on airplanes is a move in the right direction!
I was on a flight Minneapolis to Palm Springs on a single aisle plane and had the window seat. In the middle seat next to me was a wide passenger that made me lean against the window if I didn’t want to rub against him. But the real danger wasn’t him but the well dressed man on the aisle who was sooo obese that he forcibly wedged himself into the seat so that the armrest were so tight they acted as his seat belt. He did not ask for a seat belt extension and could not use a seatbelt any way during take off or landing. It was obvious that he always flew this way. Although I needed to go to the bathroom during the flight I had to contain myself because I was trapped. The worst was if there were an air emergency and we had to evacuate the plane, I could not get out quickly and would have died. This is not just a matter of an personal rights but the safty of other passengers. When a musician travels with his cello, he buys an extra seat and the cello always has the window seat and the muscian the middle seat. Obese passengers should not be given the aisle seat trapping his or her seatmates.
SayWhat – Sure, some posted comments are rude and call names, but I sure hope you don’t believe that everyone who feels encroached upon by a large person and agrees with this airline policy is somehow a “fat people hater?” that’s just shortsighted and silly. It’s like having a neighbor that plays music as if he is at an outdoor concert at 2am, are you a jerk or a “hater” for calling the cops? for making an HOA rule about not making everyone have to listen to your music at 2am? Come on. You can agree with this policy and not be guilty of discrimination, its just physics, common courtesy, and common sense. IMHO
SayWhat, it does not seem to me that people on here are “fat people haters” I think this has just become a problem that isn’t quite fair. Also, the obesity rates in this country are so startling that foreigners can spot an American coming from a mile away b/c fat is associated with Americans. Being made to pay extra for a ticket is embarrassing and might actually be a motivator for some obese people to make a change.
I do know what it is like as I used to weigh 215 pounds at a height of 5 foot 4 inches and the embarrassment I felt was the motivator for me to do something about it. Was it easy…no! Was it possible and took determination and personal choice…yes! 7 years later and I was 128 pounds (by exercise and eating well) which is where I have been ever since. Most people have the choice, it is just whether or not you choose to act on it! If you choose not to, why should other people suffer?
I say yes to larger passengers paying extra only if “FUNKY” passengers are not allowed on until they shower. I will take a fat arm in my space over holding my breath for four plus hours any day.
Why dont the airlines put a few wider seats in the plane? Everyone deserves to fly and be treated the same. This discrimination bull is really getting on my last nerve. Black, white, mexican (legals that is) fat, skinny, young, old, babies, toddlers. Lighten up people. We all have feelings and we all all created equal. Just some of you think your better then others. By the way im white, 5′6″ and weight 135 so im not fat and sticking up for fat people. Im a christian sticking up for GODS people.
I have a t-shirt that says “I beat anorexia!” and yes people too large to fit in one seat should have to pay either for an upgrade or for 2 or more seats.
I’m 6′7″, and am what the industry calls Large and Tall, not big and tall, as I was told by a very robust man in a big and tall store once. If I pay a little more can I have the seat in front of me moved a couple of inches forward? How about charging Mr Five Foot tall more for sitting in the emergency row, just because they like to stretch out more?
Thank you Braves #1. I think people with screaming babies should have to pay extra. If they start charging over-weight people more, then I sense a lawsuit coming. That is just like making a black person or mexican or whatever color you are pay more because or their color. Are we really going to revert back to major disrespect and discrimination? I am 5′2 and 140 NOT overweight, but I have friends that are overweight and know how embarrasing it can be to not be able to buckle your seatbelt or ride rides at an amusement park. Overweight people don’t enjoy it….I say we extend the seatbelts to accomodate the overweight and when the obnoxiously skinny people go flying out the window Oh well they should have paid extra for a smaller seat belt to hold them in.
Have people walk through a corridor the width of a seat, similar to the size gauge that is used for carry on luggage. If the person does not fit then tell them they are going to have to “super size” their seating accommodations at the ticket counter.
Public transportation (which airlines are NOT) should not be forced to change to a new American “Physiology”, rather, the 60% of America that is fat or obese, should get back down to a normal, healthy weight. No thyroids, no emotional eating, no stress, no genes, no excuses. You’re born with blue eyes or red hair, not 80lbs overweight. This would have so many benefits! Reduced health care costs. Reduced energy consumption. Um, reduced food consumption leading to lower costs!
Regardless to whether you’re obese from overeating or from a disease the results are the same. If you require the extra space you should pay the extra cost. Maybe it’s not twice the fare because that may become cost prohibitive for many. If this is implemented, I hope it’s done in a way that does not humiilate or embarass the traveler. I would rather suffer a little discomfort rather than cause someone to feel that emotional pain.
It is bothersome to have your seat invaded on a plane by someone else but I think charging double is unfair and the airlines should make provisions for special passengers; accommodations for larger beings and mothers with babies. These seats could be placed throughout the aircraft. It’s the most respectable way to handle this issue.
I am large but can fit. I am also in favor of charging for additional space. The passenger should have the option to upgrade for a special seat with more room, or buy an extra seat. There needs to be an option available other than first class. I have seen a few people who cannot get down the aisle and I think, “How on earth are they going to fit?”
I have literally been choked for hours (due to allergy/asthma) from folks bathing in scent. Something should also be done about that. Subtle, folks, goes a long way.
And I know virtually no one who would not agree that a noisy child/baby area should be available to protect the other passengers from too much noise. If an airline advertised itself as small child free, I am SURE many travelers would pay the premium to sign on. I am not a child hater, but you have to realize that not everyone enjoys your child and sympathizes with your child’s travel adjustment problems. I have traveled near many parents who had the traveling with a kid thing figured out, and many more who were oblivious or overwhelmed.
If you have ever tried to fly with the overlapping folds of a weight-impaired passenger overlapping onto the arm rest, your leg, your arm, shoulder, torso, you would not have to ask. I pay to use my entire seat space – from floor to overhead. If a passenger cannot fit in a coach seat, require them to pay for a seat they CAN fit into. The last time I was squished between an enormous passenger and the side of the plane, I made up my mind to always reserve an aisle seat when booking my flight.
For all of the people who think that fat people (sorry for not being politically correct) should pay extra, they have never had to sit next to one. I think what they should do is make the fat people sit next to the squirming, crying, screaming babies!
People of the world are so mean . . . some of your comments are horrific and uncalled for –you can express yourselves just as well without out being so obnoxious. Let’s face it, most plane flights are usually a big hassle, unless you fly on a private vessel but to constantly put down larger people as I’ve seen done on this blog is just mean. I bet many of you have children that are bullies.
Just wondering what would happen if you substituted the words “black” or “Jewish” for the words “fat” or “obese” in any of these blogs. Prejudice against overweight people is the only bigotry that remains acceptable in our society.
First, add to the base price of a ticket the combined weight of pax and luggage, and that is a collectible surcharge at boarding, billed automatically to the method of payment for the original ticket.
Second, if the collectible surcharge is over a certain amount, the pax is assessed and given 2 seats if it is not the luggage that passed the threshold, with no additional payment other than the surcharge that everyone of us would pay.
However, don’t hold your breath waiting for the airlines to do anything until forced by congress. They don’t think like that.
The base ticket is for everyone to “rent” an equal amount of square inches. If someone need more than they rent, they need to pay more for another “plot”
*** Prejudice against overweight people is the only bigotry that remains acceptable in our society. ***
This is not about prejudice, it is actually about equality … everyone pays the same for the amout of area that they use. If a fat person uses an extra seat for free when available, it is everyone one else subsidizing that second seat.
The worst flight of my life was next to an overweight guy who simply did not fit into the seat AT ALL. Seats are claustrophobic enough, but sitting next to a guy whose arm is firmly planted in your boob for two hours was misery. I asked him, politely, to please move his arm, and he ignored me (he spoke English, he asked for doubles from the snack cart). I asked the flight attendant to move, but the flight was full. I would have gladly sat next to a screaming baby for two hours rather than have to put up with that guy again.
If a person can pull a armrest up, I sure can pull it right back down. If s/he doesn’t like it, oh well. Guess what, I don’t like being mauled, either. And my likes count at least as much as theirs.
I travel frequently, and just recently I have had 2 situations that almost caused me to ask for a refund. There are various reasons to have a less than enjoyable flight. I am overweight myself, but fit in the seat and use the regular seatbelt. The lady next to me on a 3.5 hour flight probably weighed less than me, but was shorter and had very wide hips. Part of her left thigh infringed on me and I had to lean to the left the entire flight. Then last week I had a lady next to me who was carrying her 14 mo. old little girl. She really was well-behaved for the 4.5 hour flight, but she kept flinging her little arms so that they hit me on the arm or in the stomach. Her mom was very apologetic. There was not a seat to spare on the plane, so that was not an option. Personally, I think the best and least expensive rule for everyone is partial or full reimbursement for a flight if your neighbor makes your flight unbearable.
Kid-free airlines? Sign me up! I think the some of the screaming kids are just as tortured as the other passengers. On the other hand, ear plugs do wonderful things to mitigate the screaming kids AND help if you have ear problems like I do.
As a frequent traveler who is neither small nor obese, I have to say that there should be a surcharge. I try very hard to respectful to everyone I fly with, but I can’t stand to be elbowed in the breast or turn myself into a pretzel just to avoid having some stranger lean up against me. Lemme tell ya, in the summer, this really sucks big time!
I think this policy is discriminatory. But if they’re going to start charging people for making other passengers uncomfortable, why not charge people who have long legs and their knees stick you in the back or butt for the whole flight? I hate that, so so much… and it happens much more often to me than a fat person taking up extra space in my seat.
Maybe the better idea is for the airlines to stop packing people in so tightly it’s like a sardine can.
Airlines have become so greedy, and money hungry! They cram too many seats on plane and make them small to boot! They should give people more leg room and make seats a bit wider, comfortable, and not discriminate. Should you have to pay more because you were born ugly?
Now, hold on a minute passengers! Airlines are already charging too many fees. Look at the big picture. One, just because plus size passengers pay more doesn’t mean they won’t still be sitting next to you and adding to your discomfort and two, 61% of the population is overweight so airlines need to make the necessary adjustments to accomodate heavier/wider passengers (ex. bigger seats/added legroom). Let’s not just give them another cash cow. Heck, I’m 6′5″ so what’s next, a fee because my long legs stick out in the aisle a few inches? Gimme’ a break —
People who are large enough to take up more than their seat should pay extra. I have friends who buy 3 tickets (they are a couple) when they have a long flight. I also find the screaming children and those allowed to do as they please very offensive.
Go United. Now can we do the same for subways, buses and the roads? If you weigh more you are putting more wear and tear on the roads and you need to pay up.
60% of the US is overweight. Remember that counts people who are 1 pound or 500 pounds over the ideal. More importantly I don’t care how fat you are. If you are using more that your seat…pay. If you are embarassed by your weight, DIET! Don’t give me that I have a Thyroid problem. The vast majority of the grossly overweight (more than 50 pounds over) in this country have a fast food, donut, and lack of exercise problem. Embarass you? Good I hope it does to the point of causing you to get off your butt. The airline is a private company and doesn’t need to change it’s airplane, or it’s policy to fit you. You need to pay the required fee’s or find another mode of transport.
Have everyone pay by the pound….embarrassing but fair to all…just step on the scales just like baggage. (And I’m not a tiny person so this does not benefit me,,but it’s fair)
Last year I flew over 200 segments, mostly on DL and FL, but hit just about every airline at least once. Mostly domestic, all over the country, with a dozen or so international flights in the mix.
I’m sure I’ve sat next to very large people on some of those flights. I’m sure there have been screaming kids on some of those flight. But every single one of those flights got me from where I was to where I needed to be reasonably close to on-time. Isn’t that the point of flying?
I board the plane, read the paper, do some work, listen to my I-Pod, and generally don’t pay attention to what’s going on around me. Maybe I’m lucky that I get to sit in the section of the plane reserved for frequent fliers – those who fly once a month or less might not realize the front of the cabin is held for frequent fliers – so I avoid the people that look as the airplane ride as part of the vacation as opposed to transportation.
The plane ride is meant to get you and everyone else on the flight from Point A to Point B. Those snobs who think it’s better than riding the bus should figure out the price of the ticket per mile. MARTA is more expensive a ride per mile! Concentrate on what you paid for – cheap transportation – rather than looking for private jet amenities and the unimportant things – a child whose going to visit grandparents but doesn’t understand what air pressure does on ears, a person who isn’t happy about being heavy but may be going to his mother’s funeral and feels bad enough about the situation. Frankly, give me a sweaty obese man in the middle seat over a chatty, holier-than-thou complainer who thinks because we are next to each other on a plane that somehow means we should chat and that the fact that turbulence meant the flight attendant didn’t get a chance to give you a few sips of Fresca somehow means you should get your money back for the ticket.
Control yourselves and you can be happy in any situation. Look for something to complain about and be miserable. It’s your choice.
I can’t believe there is any controversy over this. Has our culture really descended so far that Political Correctness allows fat people to think they are somehow entitled for a free seat or to encroach on the seat of the people next to them? It’s time we stood up to this nonsense.
I don’t think that paying a extra fee is right. I agree with Big Juicy. I am a formal football player and I am big, I am 6′4 and 285 pounds and it is all muscles, and I don’t always fit so i have to buy two seats come on give me a break. The airlines need to make bigger seats and people need to stop crying and suck it up or drive your own damn car. With everything going on in the world right now and people are crying about plane seats, what about the people that have lost their homes and jobs and other things, that is something to cry about!!!!!!!!!
I like the by the pound idea. I am over 200 lbs and rarely fly but not being able to buckle my seatbelt took me from over 300 lbs to where I am today and I am still losing.
I flew an international flight…14 hrs with one of the largest men I have ever seen in my row. The elderly lady in the middle seat moved to another seat and we had the middle seat open. He did not spill over to the sides of the middle seat. His belly was just so rotund that he could not literally put his tray table down without it being at an incline. I kindly suggested that he use the empty middle seat for his beverage but smiled and struggled throughout the trip. Now, I don’t think that it is fair that he should pay more for comfort. There is a reasonable expectation for that. I don’t think it is fair either for the passenger in front of him having to deal with him pushing the seat forward to maneuver..nor is it fair for the person behind him that had their knees compressed when he would get up from his seat or lean back to attempt to put down the tray table. I think airlines should offer reserved larger seating for maybe an add on price, not necessarily a full fare. I think he already larger human beings know their weight restrictions and don’t need to be glared at with fear. Airlines are capable to adjust for the demand of the public.
Have you ever seen a truck on the road with a “wide load” banner. That wide load permit cost extra, just like a wide load airline passenger should pay.
Well, I’m sure this is going to do wonders for the economy and the airline’s profits. I refuse to fly already because it is too expensive and quite frankly I cannot stand to be around other fliers who complain and complain and complain. I remember the very last time I flew over 8 years ago. I had my son who was 10 months at the time. I had paid for an extra seat and he was in a carseat. They made the announcement that people with infants could board early. This woman bagan shouting that “That’s not fair!” When I got closer she actually blocked my way and refused to move! I mean, do you want me carrying a diaper bag, a purse, and a carseat over your head after you’ve taken your seat. There is a good chance that I’ll knock in the head with one thing or another! Well, guess who was my seat mate. I paid for two seats and the skinny whiner didn’t understand why she couldn’t put this next to my son in his seat and why she couldn’t use his tray and “Couldn’t I take him out of the carseat and put it on the floor so she could?” Give me a break! Fat people are not the problem. It is the people who think they are “entitled” and it should be “their” way or no way. Or the frequent fliers who think they own the plane because they fly more often.No thanks, I will save my money and my sanity! Just a reminder: An airplane is not your personal flying car!
Lets say that you weight 150 lbs. You try to check a bag that weighs 55 lbs. They charge you more for checking that bag. However, the 250 lb person in front of you pays no additional charge. Where is the logic?
Great comment Big Juicy (crazy mental image) LOL and Zeus also… One question to the posters… The airline will get more money from raising the price, but what will you get? People are complaining and I can relate, but it’s not like the fare heist (I meant hike) is going to change your situation. By the way, I’m sure everyone commenting on this blog was an uncontrollable crying baby at some point who couldn’t be stopped. Ask your parent if they ever wanted you to shut up.
If all the small people say they want to charge obese fees, how bout we charge a “smelly person” fee, “infant in arms” fee, “noisy child” fee, “listens to ipod too loud” fee, “legs too long to let person in front of you recline seat” fee, or even a “gets up to go to bathroom too much” fee.
If every obese person decided to stop flying because of the fee then the price of tickets would go up to make up for the losses so is that what you want. DEAL WITH IT for the 2hrs or so that ur on the plane. The purpose of a flight is to get from A to B.
Why dont the airlines have a few “comfy” seats in the back of the plane that they could charge a slight increase for obese ppl to gladly choose those seats.
It’s a safety issue as well. If that fat person wedged in their seat next to you or nearby is between you & the emergency exits, you’re at increased risk in the event an evacuation is required. Personally, I’d demand a seat swap, another flight or reimbursement.
My husband and son have to pay more for first class seats if they are to have room for their legs because they are both almost 6′ 5″. Is there a difference?
There is a difference between a taller person, a person of a different religion/ethnicity, and an overweight person with regard to this discussion. The issue is whether or not the overweight person is taking up space paid for by another passenger. If this is the case, then absolutely, the person should either pay for two seats or pay for a first class seat. I don’t see this as an issue of prejudice. I see it as an issue of fairness to BOTH the people who have paid good money for an entire seat and to those who are larger and need more space to accommodate their size.
Airlines should stop cramming people into coach seats. Surely it cannot be as safe as having a 1/3 or more less people in such a confined space.
I am 6′2 and 175 (not fat), and I am very uncomfortable in coach due to a lack of leg room that cannot be resolved by purchasing an adjacent seat. It’s especially bad when the person in front reclines their chair.
I think that until we all get more reasonably sized seats, charging the obese for 2 seats is the only solution. I took a flight to Hawaii (6 hours) and was sitting in between a man who was so large that the armrest couldn’t even come down, and another large person. It was a miserable flight for all of us. I felt sorry for the obese man because he was clearly trying to be as polite as possible, but the situation was horrible.
Shame Shame on all of you . I know you all hate me because we are overweight but where is your humanity. I’m big but its your fault, all of you. Even when I purchase a a first class seat those are uncomforatble as well but I only do that because of those dirty looks from people in coach even before I’m seated. I’m always early for a flight so that I’m out of the way of the slim people but I still see the stares, it’s just so cruel. You all should just try to understand it from my view and you will see how I am a victim of a society that discriminates agianst those who have a weight problem….shame on all of you for not having any human compasion and sympathy.
This is a bad idea. If a person who is too big has to purchase a extra ticket, wouldn’t that push the flight time back? They can’t purchase the ticket on the plane right? They’ve got to get up, go back to the ticket counter in the terminal while everyone on the plane waits. That could take another 30-40 minutes while everyone else on the plane waits. Planes take too long to take off as it is.
YES!!! Why should I be uncomfortable,because someone doesn’t know how to control their eating habits. It happens to me all the time and I demand that I get another seat. Lose weight or buy two seats! Plain and simple.
People, this is ez. If you need more than 1 seat, you pay for more than one seat. Lose weight, save money. Just because the US has become a country of “entitlement” does not mean I have to put up with your obeseness spilling into my lap.
people ARe overweight for a variety of reasons, but when it comes to flying, everyone is paying for a service, i.e., a seat to get from Point A to Point B. I pay the same as everyone else (usually) for my seat, and I want 100% of it. I have flown extensively, and there were times when the individual next to me was so large they spilled over into my seat several inches, not even mentioning the arm rest. If you are that big, then yes, you should pay extra. Whether in the form of larger seats (someone would probably sue for discrimination) or 2 seats, but everyone is entitled to get what they paid for.
I am not overweight but I am 6 feet tall and do not fit into air plane seats. Should I have buy an extra seat because they dont make them large enough for someone who is taller? Honestly, the seats just need to be a bit larger.
I am tearing up after reading some of the rude comments posted here. As an overweight person, It is embarrassing enough to ask for a belt extension and yes, I use it and stay in my own seat and try not to infringe on the passenger sitting next to me but to think that another passenger thinks I am less than human really hurts. I have sat next to people with the worst body odor ever, the baby who kept crying and the child behind me kicking my seat and you know what I realized I am going to be on the flight for a couple of hours and I can deal with it. Why don’t the airlines make the seat bigger? This is just one more embarrassement for those of us who are larger. We might as well be lined up against the wall so everyone can point and stare before we get on the flight, that way everyone get to take their pot shot at us before the plane takes off.
If obese people are charged more for a seat then short skinny people should be charged less then tall average weight passengers. If you have to buy a second seat for your 3 year child that only weighs 30+ lbs then they should pay less then an adult. Make everyone step on a scale and charge the tickets based on height and weight. Install some seats that are better for obese, tall and also short people. My feet dangle above the ground and it’s very uncomfortable on long flights.
Be consistent in the policy- it’s discrimination otherwise.
I am obese. Even if there was nobody beside me, I couldn’t sit in the seat with the armrest down. I always purchase two seats when I fly. Yes, it bothers me that it costs me so much to fly, but the comfort is worth it, and it saves me the embarrassment of causing problems for my neighbors.
On a flight from LA, I had the crew try to put someone extra in my other seat. I had to argue for 5 minutes about how I paid full price for the seat, and they couldn’t give it away.
It would be nice if planes had a few seats on each plane strictly for the obese to purchase, like stadiums do, but it isn’t very practical, and is not likely to happen. Until something changes, I accept my responsibility to buy two seats. My biggest concern is the size of the restrooms.I have no idea how the handicapped use them, because to be honest, if I have to #2 on a plane, there is going to be a serious problem, because there simply isn’t enough room in there for that to happen properly.
Yes. I think the industry should adopt standards like they do for luggage. Charge by weight. Create a base fare and then add on the weight charge. Kids and tiny adults (who weigh less and therefore will require less fuel for transportation as well as space) would be charged less than a heavy set adult. It would also motivate our obese society and is probably the fairest solution. And if you’re embarrassed about your weight, do something about it.
I’m a bigger man, 6′3″ & 240 lbs but no fat. I pretty much max out the coach seats because of my build. I have broad shoulders that span the width of the coach seats. Because of my dimensions I am hypersensative to those sitting next to me. The airlines simply don’t make coach seats for people my size.
Last summer, I had the disgusting experience of sharing the coach section with the Iranian national basketball team. You just haven’t experienced life until you’ve flown from Salt Lake to the ATL beside a seven footer with no manners who smells like a herd of goats. I would have paid the air marshall a hundred bucks to shoot me half way here if he could’ve been found.
Parents must bring entertainment and food for their children on any flight. If they can’t handle that, they shouldn’t be allowed to fly, or have kids for that matter. My kids are 7 and 5 and have never pitched a fit on a plane. They have flown many times from Seattle to Atlanta and back without mishap. Parents must be held accountable for a child that misbehaves due to the parents lack of foresight.
Although I feel for the obese/overweight people of this world because I test the limits of my own seat, I also believe that if you can’t fit in your assigned seat, you should pay for and be given two seats.
America is Obese… I went to my High school reunion and could not really identify everyone because we had all gotten so BIG…..but I think that with a little respect and wisdom a standard should be set for the airline industry so that those that are a little more frumpy can pay the price while they work on dropping those extra pounds by any means necessary….we big-Uns pay more for clothes (not 2x as much) and thats just all part of the price that you pay when you dont take authority over your health…but at the same time if someone takes up two seats then yes charge them for 2 seats but if its just a little bit more of a seat then add a surcharge on to cover …but prescreen us for our weight so that the special accomodations can be made beforehand w/out causing so much embarassment on the plane….there is a way to work it out
Fat people or large people whether they are NFL players (probably in first class) should have to pay more if they take more space. If you have extra luggage you pay so should they. I am 5′2″ those seats are crowded anyway. It is not fair if I have to sit next to one of them.
Just a quick medical update for all you lay persons … there are almost no medical conditions which “cause” you to be overweight. Drugs, genes and diseases can make it easy to gain weight BUT if you don’t put the calories in your mouth you won’t gain or keep weight on … it is strictly a voluntary condition. Just like smoking it is hard to give up but completely up to the individual. An obese, and therefore sweaty, person encroaching on your space certainly should not be tolerated when the answer is so easy … buy another seat! The airlines just need to figure out a way to enforce this BEFORE boarding the plane!!
Airlines are so money hungry that they will pack passengers like cattle. If they would design all seats like the ones in business/first class, everyone will be able to sit comfortably rather than paying extra fees due to weight.
ONLY if they charge more for children who are FAR FAR FAR more annoying with their screaming and crying that is an overweight person taking more than one seat.
Just because I have a 42 inch waist doesn’t mean im fat. i’m 7 feet tall and I fly coach for the same reason you fly coach, I CAN’T AFFORD THE PRICE OF FIRST CLASS!!!!!
Discrimination? Bwahahahahahahaha…Thanks for the laugh. Nobody can change their race, sex, or national origin, but fatties can lose weight if they really wanted to. That’s what’s wrong with most fat people. They don’t want to take responsibility for their situation. They are victims. “Wawawawawawawawa…why am I so fat? Oh, and pass the cheese dip.” Absolutely laughable.
RE: “If you aren’t fat, then you do not know how embarassing it is” – I disagree; I’m not fat because I know how embarrassing it might be; I eat well and exercise. Try it.
RE: “REVERT TO THE WIDER SEATS OF THE ’50s” – I agree; the older policies are better policies. In the 30’s, airlines would charge passengers for any weight over 185 lbs. Let’s hear it for the 30’s!
RE: “would you tolerate my piling up my belongings in your living room because I can’t fit them in my house?” – I agree; excellent analogy! How can anyone possibly rationalize that they should occupy part of my seat?
This is difficult, because as bad as I feel for those who are overweight, I also don’t enjoy having someone take up half of my seat. I feel for those who have medical issues and are obese because of them. If the airlines charged extra for every person who is obese, I would find it troubling because there are those who cannot help it. Unfortunately those of us who aren’t obese pay the price if someone spills not only into our seats but also onto us because it’s gross. Maybe they could be denied the fingernail-sized pretzels the airlines now hand out. Seriously, though. If folks are that embarrassed about their weight and they do not have a thyroid issue or another issue that has caused them to gain weight, maybe it would be a good idea to charge extra for the seats and maybe they would decide to lose weight either out of embarrassment or because they don’t want to pay the extra money. I know it sounds cruel and I have no idea how you could separate those who have medical issues and those who are just fat. This is just my opinion.
Look, enough with having to be Politically correct and worry about hurting someone’s feelings. Our country is long-overdue to correct our ways. If you can’t take care of yourself and you require more space then you pay for it. Btw- I am a Paraplegic and don’t expect people to give me a special seat on the plane and still manage to stay fit even though I can’t use half of my body. Probably 90% of the fatties blame this or that but in truth you are just plain lazy. Take care of yourself and magically seating will not be a problem!
You know, there is a difference between being overweight and being a giant lard butt who can’t have their body fit into one seat. Are airline seats comfortable and roomy? Heck no, but if your blubber is spilling over on to my seat you need to be paying for your seat and MY seat that you are using.
Yes—fat people should pay for 2 seats. Yesterday, on a flight to San Diego, the plane was packed and of course some big fat guy got the middle seat next to me. He was so fat, that his arm rest couldn’t go down, then he copped an attitude and wanted me to move over so his fat could take up some of my seat. Plus, this loser reeked of cigarette smoke. It was 4 hours plus, but seemed like 20 hours.
To be totally fair, the airlines should charge passengers by weight like they do luggage, the smaller you are, the less you pay, so the screaming horrific brat that lay in the aisle kicking and yelling at the top of her lungs while being held down by her mother for 3 hours on the last flight I was on would be practically free. Oh Joy! 20 bucks a pound for every one, that would be fair. So if you’re anoxeric, you get a deal and since you only eat every Tuesday, you won’t even have to worry about the lack of any food on the flight. The fat guy can sit next to you. If he gets hungry, maybe he’ll eat you.
If you are overweight, you are eating too much FOR YOU. Just because a skinny person eats more than you does not mean YOU are not still eating too much. Weight can be controlled with EFFORT. That means lots of excercise and diet. Combine these two and you will overcome any weight issues you have. The real issue is that most of the overweight people I know are lazy – period. They eat way too much and will NOT excercise. I work out 6 days a week and watch my calories. I don’t reward my self with eating everything I want. I work very hard to maintain my weight. Anyone can do it…you just have to want to do it. It is all about the effort and lifestyle changes.
I rather have a fat person next to me than the kids like the whiny, bratty, obnoxious brat hell children that sat next to me for the long ass flight to Hawaii.
YES the should pay for an extra seat… OR Seat them all in the same row/next to each other. Lets see how they like their personal space getting infringed upon.
the airlines is like all big companies thier GREDDY why dont they just make the seats bigger instead of making the seats so small.the seats are bigger in 1st class 1st class can still be 1st class cause they still have the best of everything else.
As some have said here – just push away from the buffet! It is true, most Americans are overweight because they over-eat. Yet, there are those people who have disease (thyroid issues) or take medication (steroids) and are obese because of that. How do you regulate how fat is too fat? And, if it is a medical condition, do the airlines give them a break?
I don’t have children. So, it is an inconvenience and aggravation to me when children are hitting the back of my seat or peering over the seat in front of me, drooling all over my tray table. The screams and crying of toddlers is another affront to my sensibilities. Can we make flights that are for adults only? Or, would that be discrimination?
How about the disabled? It takes time and effort by the airline to have employees push wheelchairs from the arrival area to the gate. Also, it takes extra time for the crew to wheel them onboard. Can you charge extra for that? And, we don’t know how they became disabled. Maybe they were born that way. Or, maybe they were a drunk driver and brought it on themselves.
I guess we don’t really know the reason behind most of the ailments and afflictions that other people deal with in life. Maybe obesity, as it is an epidemic, should qualify people as a protected class. Isn’t everyone part of some protected class anyway?
Fat people choose to eat!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people do you see in Africa? NONE! Fat people get off the couch….stop feeding your face. By allmeans call me if you want to loose weight….but it aint going to be pretty…..you have to looooooose the fork
Absolutely!! I hold my breath whenever I see large people waiting to board with me. Isn’t there a weight limit for passenger planes? If so, how is it taken into consideration? When numerous obese people are on the same plane it doesn’t it affect the fuel, flight of the plane, etc.?
Maybe if we didn’t have a culture that makes excuses for people to be overweight (actually encourages them to be so for profit), 60% of us wouldn’t BE fat. Fat people, you do NOT have my permission to overeat and simply say you “have a problem”. How is that behaviour different from me saying I “have a problem” working for a living so everyone else should please pay all my expenses. Take responsibility for yourself, choose not to be fat – DO THE WORK!
I am fat; therefore, I do not fly. I can’t subject myself to the rude and hurtful comments and looks any longer. I think that being rude and mean to fat people is considered ok by too many poeple in our society. It is discrimination, and it is ok. If I had to fly, I would definitely purchase two seats, but I do not intend to subject myself (or anyone else after reading these comments) to that. Some of you who comment about fat people are obviously those kids in school who called kids names. Those kinds of comments just make fat people go home to eat to comfort themselves. It’s not fat that makes a person sweat! Some fat people probably eat less at a buffet than many of you who are thin and and so judgmental. I find many of these comments to be rude, childish and just plain mean. Bottom line: airlines give passengers as little space as they can to make as much money as they can. I think most people would like more space.
Okay so all of you people with problems with FAT people who gets to define what FAT is? Is it 160 pounds (that’s what the airline seat capacity is designed for)? How will it be enforced? If the airlines enforce it like they do carryon luggage then good luck! What are you going to do when the maintenance guy fixes a seat belt by shorting it 5 or 6 inches? Believe it or not that happens all the time. How is this not discrimination! Obesity is classified as a disease so how is this any different than bringing in a person in a wheel chair. Do they have to pay extra? How about tall people who, because of the long legs, prohibit the passenger in front of them from reclining in their seat. Are they going to charge extra for Black people or Asians? This is a load of crap. For the record I am a FAT white guy but I can fit into a seat without an extension and I am 5 feet 8 inches tall and weigh 260 pounds. I travel 40 weeks a year for business. With all that I’ve seen on planes this is just BS!
Heck no – that’s how I got a free ticket out of Delta. The man next to me was SO BIG that he spilled over into my seat – I had to sit sideways from Newark to Atlanta. I complained to Delta – free round trip ticket! The attendants knew I was aggrevated and even suggested I call Delta to complain.
I can take it a step further. I am a petite young fellow, at 150lbs. What boggles me is that I am forced to pay extra fares for bringing a bag along with me. However, me and my one bag together probably weigh roughly 175 lbs total. However, there will be someone checking in for my flight, who weighs 250lbs and their bag weighs just under the 50. So effectively 300lbs of weight compared to my 175lbs. Why do we pay the same price? It makes absolutely no sense if the airlines argument is always weight related. I suggest charging per pound to fly. Makes it easier and more fair for everyone.
Interesting to hear people say, “it’s uncomfortable for me so I don’t fly…”. Some of us normal-sized people that fly for business purposes have no choice. And if you are embarassed at having to ask for a seatbelt extension, rest assured the person next to you dreads every minute of your presence there. To the person who likens “prejudice toward overweight people to racism” I call B.S.! Black people are black and can’t change that. Fat people do not have to be fat!!!
I am 6′3″ and played college football and am not close to 260 now… I fly every week too… there are lots of issues to deal with…fat people blobbing into my seat is top on my list… I hope they make all 5′8″ 260lb people pay double…
Yes.!! Maybe it will be an incentive for them to make efforts to lose some weight. If a person physically requires 2 seats to sit on an airplane, then they should pay for 2 seats. What is the alternative? Redesign airplane seats to have a special obese section and charge everybody more for that crap? I don’t think so. Then people would be protesting the airlines. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
The American way, scream “discrimination” and blame someone or something else on our weaknesses. You pay more for your “larger” size clothes, replacing furniture you wear out, and on and on. This has been needed for some time.
In my opinion, you’ve asked the wrong question. Life is not FAIR, therefore, the quandry. Is it reasonable to ask people who take up 2 spaces to pay for 2 spaces……yes, it is.
Have any of you geniuses stopped to think……this overweight person you are so repulsed by might just be a huge air marshall that could save your life in needed to combat a skinny terrorist…..or perhaps a doctor that could help in a medical emergency.
I would be happy to be charged a net price based on weight as would most Delta PM’s even though I am taller and bigger than most people… I travel every week and have one carry on that fits nicely in the overhead and my breif case. I also always put my breifcase under my seat unless I am in the bulkhead, so I do not take up overhead room… that is because I am considerate of others… I tolerate children and always try to help the parents when I can… still, how can a fat blobby person who flobbles and pours into my seat forcing me to touch them the entire flight be fair to me?
KK Are you saying that obesity is so common we should all just accept it and start adjusting to it!? If the average weight of Americans is increasing, our nation has a serious problem. It’s not a condition we should be adjusting to.
wow “Cracker”…what cave did you climb out of? If you use the American definition of being overweight….There are several doctors that would be deemed as overweight. Unfortunately this thread will probably go on forever due to the fact that many people like yourself have not gotten over simple prejudice towards others. Lets just hope and pray that you don’t need a “fatty” to save your life or do anything for you if your lifetime. And if that be the case….enjoy your time on your own personal “FANTASY ISLAND”….tell Mr. Rourke and Tattoo I said hello.
All you fat people darn sure dont mind paying extra for your “super size at the drive through” so you dang sure shouldn’t mind paying extra for all the space you consume on an airplane!
Get the fork out of your fat mouth or just don’t fly. Leave the flying to all us pretty people without kids!
Nick, I wish I had a cave, I understand some are rather nice.
1) We are not talking about overweight here…we are talking about giant fat people who pour into your seat because they can not fit in their own. Sorry you can not understand the difference. My wife is a Doctor, and I have yet to meet a Doctor at her hospital, practice, med school, or CE events that would not fit in a seat on an airplane. Some may be considered overwight, but not giant blobs of people who can not fit in a seat on a plane. Can you understand this? I know I am just a simple caveman confused by your modern ways…I hope I am clear on this with my simple mind, however…
2)Now, let’s discuss your use of the word prejudice. You clearly do not understand the active definition of prejudice. We all have prejudice. You are prejudice as you think my IQ is below your 90 IQ because I think fatty fat fatties should pay more for flying because i do not like it when they pour into my seat. I am certanly prejudice. When I see a great big giant fat person, I pre judge them. I fully think that they stuff their gullets full of food and do not exercise. I validate this prejudice by knowing that everyone I know who eats right and exercises is not a giant tubby flabby flabonist… I certainly do not know the relevant facts as to how the people got so giantly fat, so I rely on prejudice. I am not mean to people who are giantly fat. In fact, I try to be polite. I help them put their bags in the overhead becuase they usually can not reach them. I also help them put their bags under the seat and help them get their bags back out as they physically can not do this becuase they have giant midsections and limited mobility due to being grossly out of shape.
So, I guess we are both prejudice. However, I do not wet the bed and I am smarter than you. Sorry if that stings….
This would be impossible to regulate. Are you going to require someone who purchases a ticket thru e-ticket to then step on a scale, or more appropriately – sit in a standard airline seat, when they arrive at the airport. I’m seeing a carnival sign above the seat saying “You must be this size or less to take your flight”.
You’ll have to give full refunds to passengers who can’t fit. This will cost the airline revenue for a seat they thought was filled.
Larger seats seem to be the way to go, but it will take millions of $’s to retro-fit all the airliners with larger seats. This will also decrease the number of passengers the plane can carry, thereby raising the cost of tickets to everyone (unless the airlines expected to eat the cost).
I’ve had to sit next to a few obese people in my years of traveling. Seating arrangements were not the best as I’m 6′3″ & weigh 230lbs. But if we’re going to start culling people at the gate from taking flights, my vote goes to all the sick travelers. I’m sure you are a nice person, but I don’t want or need your virus.
“Cracker”….lol……. I must say….you are a big joke. I won’t belittle myself by going back and forth with you in this forum. I must say it was kind of your wife…being a mental therapist, to marry one of her patients. I simply want all of you to stop to think about the fact that some people are situationaly overweight. “Cracker”, I do understand that you were once an athlete. Think of the consequences if you were to become disabled or were to have limited use of your total physical being. At that point exercise would become difficult. People we are in the 21st century. As opposed to persecuting thoses that are different from us, or outcasting those that don’t fit into what we deem to be the “norm”….lets reach out in concern and try to help. Not by degrading a person, but by embracing them as a fellow human being.
To the comment about supersizing, you do realize that what a supersize is at McDonalds or wherever is the same amount of fries that were a regular size a few years ago right? Airline seats have gotten smaller over the years so no matter your size, an adult is likely to be uncomfortable in that seat before even considering if they or a seat mate are obese.
Now you are prejudice against the mentally ill… but wait, since you wet the bed and do not use logic, it is OK for you to say it…
I am disabled. I have had many, many, many surgeries on my knees, back and shoulders. I walk with a limp and it is very, very painful for me to exercise. I could easily be a flob of blobbyness right now if I did not have discipline and pride in myself. I could have a handicap sticker for my car and have someone tote me through the airport on a wheelchair as well. I choose to not. I understand that there are exceptions. I also understand that there are also many who choose to stuff their gullets with food and take no responsibility for their actions and are empowered by people like you to continue.
Wow, some of you really are cruel…Cracker & J….this is a question about fairness not insult hour at the improv theatre. As mentioned by many, there are bigger inconveniences on planes than someone is large taking up some of your space. So, do we charge more for all of that (stinky people, loud children, long legs poking)? None of it is pleasant but it is unfortunately part of air travel now.
I have been big in my past and am now in shape due to personal choice…which weight loss is for most people. It took embarrassing moments and insults for me to do something about it and I am glad I did. However, what gives you rude people the right in blatantly insult people because they are different than you? No one is perfect and people who insult others are usually the ones who truly have problems with themselves and make fun of others to feel better about themselves.
Debate like an educated individual but do not insult others for your own sick amusement….
why is this becoming an argument over fat people versus skinny people? Just charge by weight!!! Simple. If you are fat and happy, pay more. If you are skinny and happy, pay less. It takes less fuel to get my 150lb body 1500 miles than it does to take your 300lb body the same distance. It doesn’t matter at all if you want to be fat, or skinny, are happy with it, or not. You are who you are. So cough up the dough for your portion of the gas money and stop making me cough it up for you.
The problem is not the size of the people, it’s the size of the seats. The seats are too small for even the average person. Also the overheads are too small for the huge bags that people continue to bring on board. When will the airlines realize they need to quit squeezing. I applaud the present administration’s effort to bring back railroads. There is plenty of room on the train!!
yes this does display “ad hominem”, but those of us that truly know just a little bit also know that ad hominem is primarily used to skirt the actual issue in order to be rude or insulting. Which you have more than done. By the way, I have said nothing insulting against the mentally disabled or challenged. You see being mentaly ill and mentally disabled is two totally seperate entities. To be ill is to be sick….and you my friend……are a real “sicko”. ie: dahmer, gacy, manson, bundy, etc etc……THAT IS MENTALLY ILL. And that is why I commended your wife the good doctor on marrying such a special “nut job”. Perhaps she can instill some humanity in you.
But Niiiiick, we are in the 21st century. As opposed to persecuting thoses that are different from us, or outcasting those that don’t fit into what we deem to be the “norm”….lets reach out in concern and try to help. Not by degrading a person, but by embracing them as a fellow human being.
Hey Bobby, having lived in Europe for a few years, I can tell you that there is not plenty of room on trains. Try taking the train from Gatwick or Heathrow to London…there are people all piled in there standing up with their bags in the isles… take a train from London to Dover in the morning with the commuters and the school kids… you are lucky to get a seat unless you get 1st class…there is no way to put an even average sized bag in the overheads… Eurorail is a little better, but the seats are not any bigger than a coach seat on a MD-88… and as soon as someone blows one of them up, there will be long security lines to get on them too…. but why let the facts get in the way of a good story…
The airlines have two options:
1. Charge over sized passenger for two 2 if the occupy two seats.
2. Sit the oversized passengers in the same row… so they can squish eachother!
Wow…having once been over 250 lbs at 5′6″, and yes I squished into my own seat, next to my 6′3″ 200 lb hubby who needed more leg room, I am appalled at the way some of your folks raised you. Fat is truly the last acceptable prejudice. Call a Mexican a “wetback” or a black person the N word, expect to get your butt kicked. However, on this blog and world wide, it is ok to call them big fat fattie, lardo, fat butt, fat a$$, etc without fear of reprisal. I understand nobody wanting to sit next to someone obese or morbidly obese, but us fat folks don’t want to sit next to your stinky, marinated in cologne selves, or not bathed selves, or bratty kids screaming either.
Oh, and I’m not fat anymore (140 lbs), but I still can’t stand the way people treat overweight and obese people. I did have a medical condition; hello, I was in the US Army and still gained weight regardless of PT 7-10 times a week. I didn’t drink soda, eat fast food, or over eat at all. If it was you, your spouse, your mom/dad, or child….you would certainly expect the world to behave differently.
I agree the airlines should institute a few rows of larger seats. They make enough money stuffing us in like sardines with crappy service as is. Even if I was still 250 a per lb rate would suit me fine. I can pack a week’s worth of clothes, shoes, accessories, and toiletries into a carry on bag vs. the “super vain” types with 3 outfits a day and shoes to match!
Weight is not the problem here; size is. Why should airlines charge by weight? I doubt that a few hundred pounds extra would greatly affect the cost of flying the plane. Also, weighing people before they board seems crude and could be greatly humiliating to everyone, not just overweight passengers.
I think that the fact that 60% of Americans are overweight needs to be addressed by the airlines but I do not think that average-sized individuals should have to shoulder the cost of making the seats larger. Airline fair would increase significantly if airlines could fit fewer passengers on each flight.
Passengers who cannot fit into coach seats should pay for business class seats, as these seats have more room. If you can’t fit, get off the plane and make new travel arrangements. Other passengers shouldn’t be forced to wait while the airline accomodates you. If you know you won’t fit into a single coach seat, make alternate plans AHEAD of time to avoid embarrasment for you and everyone else. This is not discriminatory; it’s equitable and responsible.
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Speaking of small seats… Travel to an out of state SEC football stadium and look at the seating. We are always squished. It is the size of the seat space and not the size of the person that is the problem here.
Rail travel is the most civilized form of travel available. It is a crying shame that this country moved away from this mode. Everyone in the world and this country particularly is in such a hurry. We are all rushing toward our deaths anyway. We might as well slow down and enjoy the ride, the scenery and the civility.
It is not worth the 5 billion “or more” that is budgeted for the task. High speed trains work in Europe and Japan because the populations are much more consolidated and urbanized than in the US. The train system in the US hasn’t turned a profit in decades, I see no justification for the taxpayers supporting failing industries. Obama says he will make some hard choices and maybe find a way to cut 100 million from his 2010 budget (1/36,000th). When the deficit increase is 1.2 trillion dollars in a single year, we need a lot more cutting than that. I have a good start, how about you cut the 5+ billion from the train idea, then add the 6 billion for the “volunteer” program. Wow I just cut 1% of the budget, I must be a magician!
What makes you think the train system must turn a profit??? If the roadways and airports weren’t all paid for by the governement, those forms of travel wouldn’t be profitable either.
I’m pretty sure the interstate highway system hasn’t turned a profit in decades. Come to think of it, I don’t think we turn a profit from airport expansion. Should we not invest in those either? Although it would be nuts to build a HSR line clear across the country, there are regions of the US with similar density and distance between cities (this article mentions two of them). A great example is Spain, a country with a great HSR system, which is nearly identical to California in terms of density and area. Not surprisingly, California is planning to connect LA with SF and the voters just approved it.
I really hope this happens. I love traveling by plane. I don’t travel by amtrak because the service is both slow and overpriced. High speed trains however are a whole other story. I regularly travel from Atlanta to NY, a 2-hour flight that usually takes about 6 hours (door-to-door) without any delays.
If I had the option to travel by high speed train, I would choose it every time.
Per H.R. 2095 [110th] and the Joint Explanatory Statement – Division A (p82 in PDF) for H.R. 1 [111th] a.k.a. the stimulus bill, the threshold for “high speed rail” has been raised from 90mph to 110mph, i.e. what is known as regular speed for intercity trains elsewhere in the developed world. Admittedly, not a huge jump but it’s still early days. California’s true bullet train system will reach top speeds of 220mph on an all-new, dedicated network of 800 miles of dual track – with a price tag to match.
Based on the experience of other railways, *average* train speeds need to be on the order of 1.5-2x car travel at the speed limit in order to attract sufficient ridership to turn an operating profit. In that context, it’s actually remarkable that Amtrak’s Acela Express manages to do so even though its average speed is just 80mph or so, especially north of NYC. For planning purposes, the focus needs to be on door-to-door travel time. Avoiding wait states, delays and slow sections is more important – and harder – than reaching top speed somewhere along the line.
On the legacy narrow-gauge network in Hokkaido, Japan Railways use extremely lightweight active tilt trains and up-to-date databases of track geometry to *anticipate* where they can afford to accelerate and where they need to slow down. This combination allows them to achieve respectable line haul times in spite of mandated top speeds of just 130km/h (80mph). In the US, such lightweight rolling stock is not allowed to share track with heavy freight trains.
I’d love it, but the price would have to be far less than what Amtrak offers even now on its regular trains. For me to consider it worthwhile, I need to be able to travel by train for less than I can travel by air. That’s just not the case right now unless it’s a VERY short trip.
I love the idea. Train travel simply makes sense (economically [with the price of gas], ecologically [with ozone deterioration]). I hope the intermediate stop between Atlanta and Columbia is Augusta. The rapid trains would avoid the traffic jams in downtown Augusta I remember as a child. Additionally, it would bring back a bit of history….trains coming from Augusta stopped in a little town called Terminus..then Marthasville…now Atlanta.
What happened to the Georgia Rail passenger program? That would have made all of Georgia accessible from Atlanta to Savannah, Brunswick, Athens. Just think what a road trip that would be on football weekends. And to Jacksonville Florida for the Georgia Florida game. Day trips, night trips, a whole other alternate life style would blossom to invlove family bonding. Not just travel to get from point A to point B. I love the idea. Its bigger than just trying to find the best way to get where you want to go.
The Obama plan is a nice start, but we need high speed trains to travel at least 200 mph and make stops in the major cities for it to work. Most of the corridors make sense, but the trains need to travel much faster than 110 mph for many large numbers of people to use them for intercity travel.
The $8 billion for high-speed corridors is a very smart investment that will pay dividends for generations to come. Passenger rail is the safest, most environmentally friendly, and efficient means of transportation – this is why Europe has invested so heavily in its train systems. Another important reason we need passenger rail is that a comprehensive system of passenger trains would reduce our need to import oil from the unstable Mideast. In several surveys, 70% of respondents have said they want taxpayer investment in passenger rail. And in every corridor where state investments have been made, ridership has increased greatly (California, Washington state, the Midwest). What has been missing is Federal investment because certain politicians believe that passenger rail must make a profit – even though highways and airports don’t make a profit and are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.
“On the legacy narrow-gauge network in Hokkaido, Japan Railways use extremely lightweight active tilt trains and up-to-date databases of track geometry to *anticipate* where they can afford to accelerate and where they need to slow down. This combination allows them to achieve respectable line haul times in spite of mandated top speeds of just 130km/h (80mph). In the US, such lightweight rolling stock is not allowed to share track with heavy freight trains.”
Quoted from Rafael.
Exactly…In Oregon and California the freight trains and Amtrak share the same lines. I can’t imagine the amounts of money it would take to either replace the lines or lay down another set of tracks. Then you will have all the tree huggers protesting about it. This is another one of Obama’s stupid hair brained ideas and it will never work.
As for the Highway system it is paid for by the tax payers not subsidized by the tax payers that is the distinct difference. The airports are subsidized by the Government and the Airlines pay for the use of the airport. When we get on the highway, freeway, beltway, whatever, it is free or there may be a small toll charge. When you use Amtrak it is NOT free. That is the difference. Why not make it free? like the highway system? Amtrak’s board of directors is appointed by the President, and the DOT holds the majority of STOCK. I personally find that interesting. That is why they need to make money…because it is a business.
The concept of ‘profit’ and passenger rail is largely a red herring. No passenger railway is the world truly covers all expenses from revenue (Acela certainly doesn’t). However, many other very worthwhile government services do not directly turn a profit, yet it would be ludicrous to condemn roads, airports, public schools, or even police or fire services because they don’t make money. All such services do, though, ultimately make a positive contribution to society; The money spent on education gets repaid many times over in a better educated, more affluent workforce, while infrastructure development – road, rail, air, and waterways – promotes economic development (clearly important right now) and job creation. Mobility – often provided most efficiently by rail (every mode of transport has its place) – of freight and passengers is vital for a vibrant, growing economy, yet due to lack on infrastructure investment in general – and passenger rail in particular – we are a nation headed for gridlock.
Atlanta is a good example. You want it to be easy for people to move about, going to work or school, or out shopping or dining and spending money. It is harder to do that when your highways resemble parking lots,. Rail can be a big part of the solution – be it high speed trains, commuter rail, or light-rail such as Marta. Consider for a moment the promise of high sped raill linking Georgia. Any point on the system is then a couple hours from Atlanta, making it completely practical – and even a pleasant trip – for someone from Valdosta or Dalton (for instance) to come into the city to go shopping, attend classes, or even work here. None of those options are practical with air travel, and would take too long by automobile (even without the resulting traffic congestion). Passenger rail holds enormous promise – integrated with a network serving other states and across the country – but it will never make money. That is, again however, utterly not the point.
The real problem here is not so much the person’s size, but rather the size of the seat. If the airline seats were not intentionally made as narrow as possible (to cram more of them on the plane) this wouldn’t be such a pervasive problem. With a seat made a reasonable width, far fewer people would ’spill over’ or not fit; Indeed, if the width really is a reasonable dimension, this problem would become sufficiently rare that it wouldn’t be worth mentioning, let alone develop a policy.
Well,well,well, spring break is over and all that commotion of not going to Mexico due to drug violence was way,let me repeat WAY over exagerated. Beleive me if there would have been any US causalties to students due to drug related violence it would have made it to front page news. I have lost trust in US journalism,and the electronic media does not report facts anymore but hearsay.
There seems to be a deliberate disinformation campaign within the US against Mexico. The so called failed state is not so,when is it gonna fail? The economic disaster forecasted in Mexico did not ocurr either. That mexico has problems,YES. What is not reported is the huge effort to combat corruption and the effects of this fight against corruption is why Mexico’s considered a failed state. If nothing was done then that would be critized. I don’t understand why some groups in the US are using the media to give a blow to Mexico. everything falls under it’s own weight and that there are no casualties from drug related violence is proof of this disinformation campaign. The 3 points that I have mentioned have all been false reports in American Media.
The spring break warning was to hurt Mexico economically not to protect US citizens. It was exagerated.
The mexican state is stronger today than it ever was as it weeds out corruption. The imminent failed state was a wrong prediction just as the weapons of mass destruction in Irak. I hope the US is not paying for their intel, if they are they should get their money back.
The economic downfall did not happen becuase Mexicos finances are in better order than In the US.
Mexico has almost 80 billion US in reserve and an aproved credit line which will probably never use of 40 billion which gives confidence to investors.
It has spent 7 billion US in the drug war which has shaken the entire fiber of Mexican society because it is for real, everyone knows that if they don’t shape up they will ship out. This is Mexicos main problem along with the disinformation campaign from US media equal to second world war propaganda.
I agree with the author. While I love trains and try to take them as much as possible for a whole host of reasons, environmental ones among them, in order for trains to have mass appeal they are going to have to be competitive with planes on routes where flying is an option in price and perhaps even time. 90 mile per hour trains are nothing to be excited about. New York Central ran trains above that speed in the 1940s. Even steam engines could move over 100 mph more than 100 years ago. The northeast corridor owned by Amtrak runs their trains (most designed in the 1970s) at 125 mph in the open stretches. Acela approaches 150 mph in the same stretches. The stops as well as rail congestion are problematic factors, dropping the overall speed on a line very dramatically. Most importantly, the fact that 70% of rail lines that Amtrak runs on currently are owned by freight carriers, means dramatic slow downs and delays. This is going to mean building new, restricted access, lines for high speed rail, not sharing tracks under unfavorable terms with freight.
I am opposed to the expenditure of any money for HSR. First of all, the $8B will only pay for some consultants, who will take and write a report. In addition, HSR will take a many year commitment, something we are not good at. Obama will be office 4 or 8 years, and then the next regime will shoot it down.
I would rather see the money spent on rehabilitating the current system, equipment, and routes. We, in Florida can only get to Atlanta by way of Washington DC, or NewOrleans the same way. There needs to be a viable network that connects all major population centers. If I am in a hurry, I choose to fly, but 90% of my travel, prior to August 2005 was by rail. Katrina shutdown the only Amtrak train that was of use to me, so I am forced to either say home or fly – SouthWest Airlines has a seat reserved for me on 4 flights in June, none of which I am looking forward to, but grandchildren are grandchildren.
Lou wrote: “As for the Highway system it is paid for by the tax payers not subsidized by the tax payers that is the distinct difference.”
Sorry Lou, but last year the Fed dropped $8 Billion of our Federal Income Tax dollars into the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) to keep it from going bankrupt, that’s a subsidy since even those who don’t own cars saw their money go into the HTF. The HTF, which is funded via the Federal fuel tax, pays for the bulk of our Interstate Highway System’s (IHS) repairs and expansions.
It was estimated early last year, before the high gas prices last summer drove the fuel tax revenues down even futher, that the HTF will need a $9 Billion subsidy this year and next. Comes 2011 & 2012, that number jumps to $12 Billion, unless Congress raises the fuel taxes and soon.
Even worse is the fact that the current 5 year plan authorized by Congress that we’re operating under, was $79 Billion less than the DOT estimated it actually needed to maintain a state of good repair to the IHS. And that was before a bridge on I-35 in Minneapolis-St Paul fell into a river over a year ago, which set of a flurry of bridge inspections that found Billions more work that is needed.
Then we come to the Stimulus package which also has funding for highways, in addition to high speed rail, yet another subsidy. And many also consider the bailout to the Detroit automakers yet another subsidy.
Lou wrote: “The airports are subsidized by the Government and the Airlines pay for the use of the airport.”
If the airlines paid for the full value of their use of the airports, then the airports would not need a government subsidy. Of course if the airlines did that, they’d be bankrupt too. By the way, We The People also watched as just shy of $1 Billion of our Federal income tax dollars was dumped into the FAA to support airline operations. Heck, we even pay companies to fly almost empty airplanes into small airports around the country. The program is called EAS, Essential Air Service.
Lou wrote: “When we get on the highway, freeway, beltway, whatever, it is free or there may be a small toll charge. When you use Amtrak it is NOT free. That is the difference. Why not make it free? like the highway system?”
The highways aren’t free, you’re paying via the fuel tax, even though you, I, and the rest of America aren’t paying enough via the fuel tax.
Lou wrote: “Amtrak’s board of directors is appointed by the President, and the DOT holds the majority of STOCK. I personally find that interesting. That is why they need to make money…because it is a business.”
What other company sees it’s board appointed by only one person? What other company can basically ignore State laws? What other company pays no property taxes, state income taxes, state sales taxes?
Amtrak is a company in name only, and the only reason for that is to allow our politicians to be able to point at it’s company status to avoid blame for any problems or failures.
[...] writer: Would I use high speed trains? “I’m thinking the answer would be no.” Not unless they were cheap and “seriously fast.” (Atlanta Journal [...]
high speed rail is *IDEAL* for regional travel. the DC-BOS route is incredibly well traveled. A high-speed train from ATL to Charlotte, Birmingham, Savannah or Chattanooga is almost a no-brainer. A high speed rail would make New Orleans a 2.5 – 5 hour trip (depending on train speed) rather than a 7-8 hour interstate trip. i’d take rail in a heartbeat if pricing was competitive and the schedules made sense (atl to charlotte that arrives at 1am? what?). i’d take the train more often if it wasn’t so inconvenient.
My sister and I have booked a trip to an all inclusive resort on the hotel strip in Cancun for the second week of May. We are keeping an eye on the developments, but are uneasy about the trip because of the swine flu outbreak and the NY spring breakers who got the virus from Cancun. We are going to buy traveler’s insurance for an extra $30 each that will cover medical expenses if we get sick, and guarantee at least a 75% reimbursement if we cancel prior to a 48 hour deadline after deciding not to go. Hopefully it won’t get worse.
Looking at a map from one of Mexico City’s major newspapers, it’s quite apparent that the epicenter of the outbreak is Mexico City, “zona metropolitana” immediately surrounding the city, and the state of San Luis Potosi. Look a little farther out and states such as Guanajauto, Veracruz, and Gurrerro (home of Acapulco) have few, if any, cases. If you are planning on going to Mexico, go! The exchange rate is fantastic, the tourist resorts are uncrowded, and the number one security priority (both in terms of Swine Flu and Narco-violence) of the Mexican government is places where tourists frequent. If you are smart and proactive, you will have a great trip! Go and enjoy!
no way, 187 people sick??? 6 Canadians was the latest stat, you know how many Canadians have visited Mexico in the last month, thousands and only 6 reported flu like symptoms, no data on how many of the six cases where travelers, and in all 6 cases the symptoms were mild.
We booked a trip to a resort in the Yucatan May 22-25. If it were just my husband and I we would still go. We have young children at home so we have decided to talk to our travel agent about making different arrangements. It is always better to be safe than sorry when you have little ones
So here’s the deal all, my boyfriend and i just booked all inclusive to Cancun Mexico on Thursday, we are leaving this Tuesday lol with Airfare and resort and a few activities for 7 days it cost us 3500.00 bucks, we where unable to get the travel insurance due to the fact that we booked last minute. I’m hoping that we are still able to go, but because im Navy my command may say the risks is to high due to the fact that we will be leaving soon on deployment. I also hope i am able to get a refund or change my destination to Hawaii but it’s not looking good. This sucks.
We’ve also heard about Tybee Island and and its beautiful beaches.
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Don’t succumb to the hype! The chances of getting swine flu if you travel to Mexico — even to the danger spots — are small! Mexico is a WONDERFUL country. Cancun and Veracruz are wonderful destinations. Mexico City is splendid! The post by Taylor regarding the dangers of the cartels is SPOT on: Mexican security is highest (and best) in the tourist spots. GO AND ENJOY!! (Just be sensible and not stupid.)
You don’t need witnesses ~ must get your marriage license @ probate court and there’s no waiting period or expiration date. VERY easy to get married in Georgia!
Well I have a cruise planned from June 1st- 5th. It goes to Key West and Cozumel. We will only be in Cozumel from 1-10 on one of the days. I guess the biggest threat would be someone getting off of the boat and being exposed to the flu and possibly bringing it back on board. I didn’t get the insurance but I think it will be okay. I’m not that big of a worrying person. I especially don’t base all my actions on a media that can’t even admit when things are getting better because that would not make a good story. It is a real cause for concern but so is the drug cartel violence and people have been going and having fun every week. So I hope everyone like myself that is still going has a great time!! Does anyone know what Carnival’s policy would be if it was still a state of emergency by the time of my cruise. Would they just go to another location or allow me to transfer to a different destination?
To Everyone with travel plans to Mexico,
DHS is about to issue a travel advisory for Mexico. If you can change your plans to travel to Mexico, do yourself a big favor and reschedule.
The current thinking for the reason that Mexico has had 80+ deaths while the US has seen none so far is that there are probably somewhere around 50,000 to 100,000 cases in Mexico, and that these official deaths are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of how many people are really infected.
This outbreak has been growing in Meico for the last month – it is not controlled – I am not telling you what to do but I can tell you, as a public health person, what I am telling my friends and loved ones: DON’T GO TO MEXICO UNTIL THEY’VE FIGURED THINGS OUT AND GOTTEN THE EPIDEMIC UNDER CONTROL. Things are still at a very early stage and will contiue to change, but right now it looks like delaying travel to Mexico is a good idea, personally speaking (although not for “business”, which is why they are holding back on a total travel ban.)
Well here’s the comment that I have. i will be traveling on a cruise line that leaves from california and will stop in cabo st lucas, and cozumel. My family and I are very concerned about this but the insurance that we were trying to purchase woould not cover us because we tried getting it so late. This is a very scar situation bc of the way that you can contract the virus. Because we have spent thousands of dollars planning this trip we will be going unless a travel warning has been issued, otherwise we will have to chalk it up and wear our mask. Someone needs to send some stronger medicine over to mexico to stop this. This is where the U.S is needed!!!! Not in Iraq
Let’s see: 100,000 drug gang members running loose (and their government adamantly opposing US protecting/sealing OUR side of the border), now the swine-bird flu outbreak. Nope, not going to Mexico, this year or any other year.
The budget estimates I’ve seen for rail are pretty cheap compared to, say, a new highway lane. If they’re taking my tax money anyway, I’d rather pony up for the 120mph trains instead of the 90 mph trains. Think about the difference between 90 and 120 like this:
Atlanta to Charlotte in 2 hours & 40 minutes? Not bad.
Atlanta to Charlotte in 2 hours flat? I would never buy a plane ticket again!
I have a honeymoon planned in Riviera Maya from June 10-17th…. I am a little worried about how the flu develops .. Advice? I also have the trip paid in full with no insurance so the chances of changing plans and getting the money back are slim im sure. Im a little ify! and i dont want to ruin my honeymoon
why would anybody want to go to Mexico. If they are all jumping the fence to get over here then something must be wrong. all of the drugs dealers and murderers, and pig flus. you have got to be kidding me.i am with you STJ i will never in my life time want to step foot in that nasty, gressy, dirty, dieseased riddden place.
Like Margaret, I will be traveling to Riviera Maya late June for my honeymoon. I am also a bit nervous. I am hoping within the next few weeks, there will be a breakthrough…do you think this is reality? If the US and/or airlines put a Federal ban on traveling to Mexico, will I see a refund from the airline…regardless of trip insurance?
I am also going to Mexico on my honeymoon June 22nd. I didn’t purchase insurance either but I spent the day talking to the airlines and resorts and most airlines are allowing members to change flights with no fee, but are only doing that from week to week. They did say that if you want to change you flight now you only have to pay about $100 per ticket. Most resorts are understanding but you can’t get back any money for shuttle services and other excursions. My best advice for Jeremy and Margaret is just sit tight for a few weeks and see how things shake out.
I don’t understand why people use this swine-flu epidemy to show how negative, ignorant and racist this people can be, wake up MEXIHELLNO! in what era are you living in, look around you, who do you see! stop the ignorance and try to be a little more human! get out of your couch and get yourself enroll back in high schol to get some education. Patetic!
I´m Mexican, and i´m sad because the way theworld is acting, treating us like were radioactive, and the worst isthat all is pure ignorance, and specially from the “first world”. But do what you need to, life is amazing and we will defeat this situation as a nation unitet. I hope that neither of your countryes find in this situation, because then you know what is feels like. Ah, and by the way, do you know how the virus is transmited? … gess not… Fearfull humans.
I’m from UK and my tickets have arrived today (For 26th May) so far no insurance but would still like to go, my tour operator will not change my holiday at the moment, only for trip up to 22nd of may so i will lose my money if i decide to chane myself, i’m willing to risk it!
I live with my wife in Puerto Vallarta, and have done so for five and a half years. I am a retired medical professional from British Columbia. When this all broke out we were at first concerned and seriously considered leaving. But after a few days we witnessed the incredible response of the Mexican government, which has been praised world wide, and as there has been no confirmed cases anywhere near us, and that this flu is treatable AND we have incredible medical services here, we decided to stay.
We love it here. It is our home. We love the Mexican people, incredible, open, caring, and tons of laughs.
And we feel much safer walking the streets here than in any major city in Canada or the US. Much safer. My grandkids age 10-16 all run around here like it is their own.
The other day I was speaking with two Federales who were having a coffee outside a local store. Young guys, 25 or so. I asked them what it was like working as a Federal police officer in Vallarta (I asked in english, my spanish isn’t so hot…). One of them told me his mother was so happy when he was posted here because it is so beautiful and safe here.
The resorts are quiet, mostly die hard Puerto Vallarta visitors it seems. The quiet is kinda nice actually, manana in the extreme. Buckets of ice cold beer for 5 bucks, beautiful beaches, sundown at 9 pm, nice life.
If you are worried about coming here for your vacation, don’t be. All of us here are going about life as usual, at a little slower pace.
See you soon.
Lots of my friends come down to visit me in Gulf Shores during the Frank Brown Songwriters Festival. We enjoy going to the different venues to see the musicians. And November is a great time to be at the beach.
You bet – “The Vancouver International Folk Music Festival”!!
It’s a beloved yearly tradition in gorgeous Vancouver, B.C. Many people attend from the U.S.
It’s a bit out of the SE, but Summerfest in Milwaukee is perhaps, the best annual music festival…11 days, on dedicated grounds right along Lake Michigan, 30+ stages including an amphitheater….last Thurs in June to the Sun after the 4th of July
The Wanee Music Festival in Live Oak Fl. in early June is the BEST in the Southeast! Just a few hours drive South of ATL on I-75 http://www.waneemusicfestival.com
The Savannah Music Festival (March 18 – April 6) is a great festival and withing 4 hours driving time from Atlanta. I have attended the last 3 years. The have something for everyone from kids show (during the weekdays) and Grammy award wining acts such as Dianne Reeves, Mariza, Marcus Roberts and Chick Corea. Savannah is a cool town for food and romance. Just be prepared for gnats
AtlantaFest, right here in Stone Mountain, June 17-20. People do travel from near and far, but we are fortunate that it is local. Many award winning groups, family friendly (no drunks, no profanity), and admission also gets you in to all the attractions at Stone Moutain. They have been around for many years, there is a reason why, check it out!
Well, if those of you with plans to go are anything like my wife and I who are scheduled to leave on the 13th of May, you are probably obsessing over this flu and watching every news report to get the up to the minute updates. The problem is that I think watching the news is not the best way to prepare. Lets face it, the media organizations are part of a BUSINESS and they make their living on the number of people watching. So what do they do? They HYPE every story and DRAMATIZE every interview. So my wife and I have decided to make our decision with our brains rather than our emotions and are going. We are just going to take common sense precautions. The one thing that will keep us from going is if either of us are suffering from any flu like symptoms. My understanding is that the Mexican authorities are on high alert and may deny anyone access into the country it they exhibit signs of illness. Keep this in mind if you are sick because you don’t want to spend your time in Mexico in quarantine.
im planning to go to mexico on june the 10th 4 2 weeks,i live in england are starting to get a bit worried,im well up for going though just want to know wheather everything will still be happening like clubs etc any help would be mnt
While customer care is percieved to be relative priority, money is # 1. Airlines are a public accomidation! Why have they not adjusted seating for such issues? How many years have they had oportunity to expand seating for portions of an airplane? They have the $1,000 oversized seat with customer care that serves 15 high society, while the remaining 150 passengers are patient for service in a cramped seating arrangement. Airlines make a point of larger seats for us less fortunate, but cant seem to find a layout of seating that allows 8 or so heavy set customers per flight to fly. What of pregnant woman or extremely large athletes? Are the 6-9 month pregant woman to pay per pound? Or the 6′8″ 275lbs customer that is all muscle pay per poound? I imgine there body to weight ratio is far better then half the 150 lbs 5″9 customer but still make that “elbo space” a bit tight for there neighbor.
AIRLINES SHOULD NOT CHARGE MORE. They should maake a portion of the seating per aircraft feasible for ALL of society….heavyset, pregnant woman, and disabled.
Like the auto industry….airlines should RESTRUCTURE!
i too have a holiday booked for the 10th of june just hoping and praying that things blow over cos me and my fiancee have really looked forward to this holiday, if we have to cancel or change our destination hell knows where we will end up
There are some pretty cool music festivals in Gulf Shores, Alabama. I love that area anyway, so I definitely make my way down for music festivals, as well as other events.
Traveling for music is one of the best parts of the experience. I used to live in CO and traveled to the first and second Bonnaroo (24hr drive). Wanee Music Fest/ MagFest in Live Oak are great and close to ATL. Before Roger Waters announced tour dates in SE, I had bought tickets to the Indianapolis show. If you can’t travel for music…where’s your true sense of adventure?
there must be a special in cancun june 10th cuz thats when me and my friends are going im not worried about the flu i jus dont wanna go down there and it be dead do u think that would be a possibility?
Why won´t you read mexican newspappers!!!!! don´t you see the nwes arround the world! God!!!
if you are so scared don´t come, we receive only wider criteria.
all dead, no clubs?, yeah rigth.
don´t come, stay at youre bubble world?
yea meanings i have never seen a mexico newspaper in my life im 19 i dont watch the news like i said im not scared of the flu jus wanna make sure cancun is still happening when i get there
I think we’ll see a lot of city-hopping on high-speed rail as opposed to people taking the whole route (aside to save money). I think it is very viable compared to an airport for Atlanta to Charlotte routes, etc. A lot less sitting around waiting for the flight.
Tom: Seriously, do you get into the airport with 5 minutes to spare? Think about all the time you waste in the airport. It turns a 1 hour flight into 3 hours if you include sitting around at the airport.
im supposed to be flying out with 3 kids on the 5 th of june and im so upset that the travel agent wont let me change destinations free of charge…. £250 is alot of money when you have saved for a year for this holiday…first choice have just continually fobbed me off. i understand they dont probably know anything but they should let familys have pririty to change free,we are having sleepless nites, the kids are upset and worried we still have to go to mexico.travel agents should look out for there customers and not try and make more money out of a sad situation… i have travelled with this company for 14 yrs never again… has anyone had the same problems
European HSR exists because they have eliminated level grade crossings. When we – a nation of auto lovers – are willing to give up easy crossing of rail lines then we can have rapid rail.
No. Here’s why; I will only take my pets with me when they and I can share the flight together, it’s a very easy design, giving human and companions their own compartments to share. Until then, I use car when I travel to places that I’m taking my pets.
I never let anyone who I don’t know watch my pets, this isn’t about to change.
My husband my son and myself are due to go to Mexico on the 26th June and I am so looking forward to going on holiday I do not think people should be that worried as lets face it you can catch the flu in Britain every year in winter. Please lets get our priorities right on the scale of things there is not many people infected so get over it.
My fiancee and i are goin to Mexico inJune for 2 weeks. I’ve been readin the internet like insane-o. Im pretty positve we’re goin. Swine flu, drug cartell. What are you gonna do? Im just gonna keep myself up to date on all the news goin around.
I completely agree! Not having to rush into a job after graduation can be an extremely rewarding experience. Most of all new graduates don’t need to feel guilty about taking time off to travel before settling down as the current state of the economy almost encourages students to take advantage of the opportunity. Myself and two of my friends decided to teach overseas and we went through Footprints Recruiting and they were wonderful. They helped us secure teaching jobs in Asia and their services were free. I had the chance to travel to Vietnam on my break from teaching and I will never forget all the warm people I met while teaching in South Korea. I strongly encourage others to do the same.
iam ment to be going to riviera maya on the 4th june with first choice and to say they have been useless is a understatement ive spent a fortune on my mobile and still dont know if iam going and its less than 3wks away. also ive noticed on the first choice website that they keep putting hols up to jamiaca dom rep as i check the prices most days incase we have change destinations and i think this is disgusting has anyone else noticed this?
Hi Sarah — Thanks for your input! Did you have to get a teaching certification before you left for Asia? When did you start your international job search? Was it weeks or months before you departed?
We just got back to California from five days in Mexico, we had an amazing time, no tourists, no problems, no flu.. I cannot think of a BETTER time to go. Just think, Chichen Itza to yourself! And the risk of getting swine flu here in SoCal is much greater than the risk in SE Mexico.
NNOOO!!! what is wrong with you people!! Don’t think big people already have low esteem and have emotion problems. I am sure they all of you people have a friend or a family memeber overweight. I am not overweight i am only 110 pounds but i feel for these people. are you gona charge a mother with a cry baby more because they made passengers uncomfortable. Come on make sense. God made people all shapes and sizes and i am sure he doesnt want you to discrimnated against these people. I have believe that people should be more considerate and think of others! peace and love xoxo
I am suppose to go to Cancun from 6/26-7/3 with my husband and son. I am very nervous if the resort/town will be empty. Like nate asked, i would like to know. I want to enjoy Cancuna nd all it has to offer in it’s prime. I don’t want the crowds of spring break, but the natural vibe of the town is what i’m looking for. I am nervous about the flu and the drugs and the killing. Please let me know what you think, any advise or suggestion are greatly appreciated.
Maybe! Under special circumstances like a sudden trip that may resort in a long stay away from home or relocation. I personally would like to be with my furry baby during a flight however if the circumstances called for a separate flight, I would consider this service.
Interesting points! I was actually thinking about this topic last night and this morning (particularly how to incorporate it into my own blog). Thanks for the tips, bro!
Yes, I am. I am not convinced that the machines are worth their cost and cost of man power to operate them.
I am concerned that the TSA takes a knee-jerk approach to preventing terrorist attacks rather than a pro-active approach. All security procedures should be taken outside the airport before ANYONE and ANY BAGGAGE / PACKAGE enter the airport.
I am even more worried about millions of citizens (not just travelers) who are blase and lack the foresight to be alert about potential dangers in plain view AND reporting them immediately such as unattended bags and unusual behavior. Americans are far more naive than our European neighbors.
Fantastic and interesting forum will look through more a little later, i drive a taxi in Portugal so if anyone from this forum comes on holiday to the Algarve Portugal, come and have a coffee with me, and i can also let you know lots of history from the area…
Just like to say hi will come and chat a little later just finishing off some homework, and believe me it is not easy writing in the heat here at the moment.
Well, I’m always up for trying new beaches. But my absolute favorite beaches are in Gulf Shores and Orange Beach on the Alabama Gulf Coast. We go there every year (sometimes a couple times!). There is so much for my family to do, everything from fishing and golf to hiking and observing nature at its best. And of course the sugar-white beaches are fabulous! You can find a lot of info on the area at http://www.thebeachiscalling.org.
The Sunday after the 2004 Derby I went to the Maker’s Mark Brewery for a tour – it was wonderful!! Very interesting to see the whole process from start to finish. My favorite part was the aroma in the aging room – they call it “the angel’s share” – I thought that was really cool. My only warning to fellow travelers is to not go on a Sunday. Maker’s Mark isn’t exactly in a dry county, but it is in one that won’t allow you to “sample the wares” on a Sunday. We had to settle for some delicious bourbon candy instead – and we took home Maker’s Mark barbecue sauce – hand-dipped lid and all, but no bourbon
When I was in 4th grade, my family rented a motor home and drove out to a dude ranch in Wyoming to meet some friends for a two week vacation. The drive was only supposed to take three days, but it ended up taking about eight because the motor home broke down four times. We stayed in more Holidomes than RV parks. The highlight of the trip was watching my dad get into someone’s car we had flagged down because the motor home had broken down half way up a giant hill and about 40 miles from the nearest town. We tried to write down every detail about that person and their car and hoped that my dad would actually come back unharmed in those pre-cell phone days! He did return, and we did eventually make it to Wyoming and back, but, needless to say, our RVing days were over.
I went on a cruise to Alaska with my 4 siblings and their significant others and my parents. After a long flight with spirited trivia games and adult beverages, we spent 2 days exploring Vancouver. The cruise goes up the inward passage so it is always smooth sailing. The sun is up about 20 hours a day, and when it is down it’s just barely over the horizon so its never really that dark. Some of the best photos I took were at 3 in the morning where the mist is red from the rising sun. We did the adventure junkets off of the ship…we rode zip lines through the trees in Ketchican – riding along 150 feet off the ground. Took a seaplane ride over the glaciers and landed on a lake in northern BC. Rode a small dinghy up a fjord to the base of a glacier while dodging icebergs, sealions, whales and seals to watch the ice calve into the sea. In Juneau we took a helicoper ride up onto the Mendenhall Glacier and drank the pure run off rivers that run across it. In Skagway a train ride up the very canyons the gold rush had run up 150 years earlier dropped us off at the Chilkoot Trail in the Yukon where we hiked a few miles along a prisine glacier lake. One morning was spent sea kayaking in a little bay that was shared by hundreds of otters and a few bears and bald eagles. The afternoon was spent whale watching, where we also saw eagle nests and the salmon spawning. The final day was spent driving up the Kenai peninsula (near the site of the notorious bridge to nowhere) and exploring Anchorage. We were fortunate that our flight home was delayed by 4 hours, so we took the bonus time to make a small plane excursion off to explore McKinley and were able to see not only a group of hikers scaling the mountain, but witnessed an avalanche on the other slope. Back in Anchorage we enjoyed some of the many microbreweries…then boarded the plane and headed home. A remarkable vacation!
Vacation Horror…Ok..my family and I went with my parents on vacation to the DR..my mom wanted to save money and booked us on a no name brand airline with retired planes that are no longer used in the USA..just great..on the way back I felt something was wrong when we arrived at the tiki airport to a airline terminal where when you checked in there were two sticks in the ground to hang your AIRLINE sign in for check in! We boarded the plane and was 1/2 way back home..when the pilot came on and told everyone to turn off their electronic devices..my son who was playing gameboy continued playing..suddenly we looked over and heard a pop pop..outside the window the engine had caught on fire. My son said, “Mom looked what I did to the plane take my gameboy!” Behind us a lady yelled, “Media..the plane is on fire and preceded to faint in the isles! Panic hits like the wave at a football game! The flight attendent jumped over her and head to the front of the plane..my mother starts screaming she has killed the whole family, my father whose English isn’t so great asks for a drink!!..the plane is then ordered to turn around and go back to Punta Cana..we arrive to rescue vehicles on the runway and the slide gig!..we finally get off the plane to a spokesperson who states we can go back on the 3 am flight or the 9 am flight. I ask him, how many planes do you have with your airline..he says two including the one we were on and that they are sending over the part to fix the plane that just came back for the 9 am flight! I took the 3 am..THANK YOU!..well with no place to go we stayed in the open airport with 3 young kids and the rest of the people wanting to go back at 3. Well the mosquitos realized it was a buffet and proceeded to eat us alive! Nice! We are standing for 3 hours smacking ourselves! Finally the plane arrives..we cheer and rush forward to get home..ONLY to find that one of the passengers, had a immigration issue! NICE..45 min later..finally…The spokesperson announces that those that had previous assigned seat numbers could go first and the rest would board after. As soon as he said that my sleeping son proceeded to PEE ON ME!! Nice! I grabbed the spokesperson and said, “My son just pee on me..I want to go first!” I guess after looking into my eyes, he grabbed the speaker and said, “Women and children first.. and this lady is first!” I was never so happy to get home, take a shower and put on itch creme!
Family Vacation each year is always special as we spend a week on the beach with our two children and three grandchildren. This year was ever more special as my wife during her 30 years as supervisor for the Department of Family and Children Services dreamed of spending a month on the beach after she retired. She was able to get away from the abused Children situation three years ago and this year we were able to fullfill her dream. We spent a month on the beach with our children and grandchildren able to be there for a week and the last week her sister and brother in law was able to come down for for 5 days. This was great as she and her sister are very close and to us everything is about family. As of this July 4th, we have had 39 vacations together. P.S. the reason we were married on Independance Day is it was the only week of vacation I had in my old job, (I WOULD GIVE UP MY INDEPENDANCE ALL OVER AGAIN)
We are a family of four and we love to travel. We were going on a trip to Ireland and my brother, who has a friend from Ireland, decided to join us. His friend offered to let us stay in their cottage while we were there. This was an extremely gracious offer and considering the positive impact on our travel budget, we accepted.
We visited Cork for a few days and did some sightseeing prior to heading north to the cottage. First, I would like to note that it was winter, and I’ll leave it at that. Second, the cottage was located exactly in the middle of nowhere. We stopped twice for directions while driving in sleet. The second stop was one of my favorite experiences of the whole vacation because of the authenticity of it. It was late at night and we were on a country road looking for our turn. We pulled into a pub and walked in to a room that looked very much like someone’s living room with a fire place and a bar in the middle of the room. The bar was lined with little old men who were only able to give us directions once they figured out the family tree of the person who owned the cottage. They pointed us in the right direction and when we pulled into the driveway of the cottage, it looked like something out of a fairy tale (from the outside).
My husband and brother went in to get a fire started and to turn some lights on. We got inside and found a lot of bugs, a single wood burning stove that had not been used in quite some time, and no way to wash/dry our bedsheets in order to go to bed. We were tired, hungry, and a little scared to turn the lights out. We made some macaroni and cheese and played UNO in the kitchen/living room while we waited for the stove to heat up the room. Since this was the only room that was warm, we pulled the chairs together and decided to sleep as best we could. I drew the short straw and slept straight up in a chair with my 7 year old daughter draped across me.
About an hour after we had all fallen asleep, we noticed the room started to smell smokey and the pipe coming out of the top of the wood burning stove was glowing bright orange. I quickly gathered the kids and our bags and headed to the car. On the way to the car, I noticed dozens of blinking eyes reflecting at me from the dark. Apparently, we were surrounded by a field of sheep, which I wish I could have seen in the daylight. My brother and husband put the fire out and returned everything to the way we found it.
We got in the car and drove to Galway to find a hotel room. There was a sporting event going on in the city, so after stopping at several hotels, we started to get a little discouraged. Finally, I remembered the hotel we had originally booked, which was just outside of town. We showed up at 2 am, bedraggled and wreaking of smoke. The gentleman at the desk, who obviously felt sorry for me, told us that he did not have a room to sleep 5, but we could take a double room and drag the cushions in from the couch in the hallway for one of the kids to sleep on the floor. We gladly took it and enjoyed the rest of our trip.
To this day, if you ask my kids about their trip to Ireland, they will first tell you about the night we ‘burned down’ the cottage!
My story happened when I was about 13.. My mom, stepdad, sister, brother and myself decided to go camping. We bought a tent, supplies, etc.. We had absolutly no experience with tents, camping, etc whatsoever.. We brought out dog camping with us, in a tent, to Lake Lanier campgrounds.. It was absolutly awful.. It rained the WHOLE time, the dog had diarrhea and we spend the whole time fighting since we were all so stressed out… I think we got rid of that tent as soon as we got back! LOL And I have not been anywhere near a tent since!
I too, have camping memories. One trip to Florida we were evacuated from the State park due to the impending arrival of a hurricane. They told us on the Sunday afternoon of Labor Day weekend. We weren’t due to go home until Tuesday. So, rather than drive back to Atlanta that afternoon, we looked at the map, picked an inland Florida State park and headed there. Got there and it turned out to be in the middle of swampland. High humidity, hot, gator warning signs, very large mosquitoes. We spend most of the time inside the camper, it was too miserable to be outside for more than 20 or 30 minutes. The bright spot that in the park was an underground cavern. We took the tour and were sad when it was over. It was very cool underground compared to the heat above.
We went to Amicalola Falls last February. Rainy, cloudy and foggy the whole weekend. But then again the campground is on top of the mountain. The Falls were beautiful and my two boys did manage to get some hiking in. We had extreme trouble starting and keeping a campfire. That made it difficult to get out food cooked. In the middle of the night on Saturday, we ran out of propane and the heater shut off. My husband drove for an hour, thanks to the GPS, to find propane. Finally Sunday just before we left, the sky cleared and the sun came out, so we were able to get some great pictures.
Memorial Day this year we went camping with 2 other families at a campground near Hiwassee, Georgia. Great time despite the rain. But thankfully our friends brought tarps and we strung them up between the trees and stayed dry. We had 10 kids and 6 adults and had a wonderful time. That is until we went to pack up and leave. We could not find the keys to our pickup truck. We looked for over an hour, turning everything inside out. We never did find them, but finally found the spare key, so we did manage to get home.
So our motto is, every trip must contain memories. Some funny and some not, but we will always be able to recall the trip.
I love my family and last year I decided to make my normal family of 6 (two adults four kids) an extended family vacation. I invited my aunts and cousins to go along. They all agreed and thought it was a great idea and I was excited! We were all headed to the beach. The trip started out smooth enough a little complaining here and there about the 6 hour drive but I just ignored it and kept moving since were were in three cars I really didn’t have to hear that crap anyway. We got to the beach and to our designated rooms and just relaxed the first day. On the second day it was one of my cousins birthday so we had a little gathering in one of the rooms with all 15 of us. We left my neice in charge of the children and all the adults took a stroll on the beach. We all needed to get out anyway because we were all feeling rather grand from the party beverages. After strolling for about an hour hoping to come down a little we headed back into the hotel but not before I took a cool dip in the pool – fully dressed shoes and all. The problem with that was I can’t swim. I guess that told me that the walk did me no justice. I did have a designated driver that goodness. We left the hotel and headed back to our hotel. As soon as I walked in the door one of my other cousins was calling me telling me I was not going to believe what she had just seen. It seems that my aunt and cousin decided to have their own WWF show in the room that they were sharing. It must have started with some words but I know it ended in a cage match. The kids were horrified my cousin was horrified and my husband and I were tickled. He said only your family. He was in awe. The rest of the trip was pretty much ruined because there were too many attitudes from that point on. Later on I heard that the match was over a twinkie. My cousin was made someone ate the last twinkie. LOL. I said never again…well I lied we are headed out in two weeks. I can’t wait but I did send out a memo – NO WRESTLING, FIGHTING, OR BOXING MATCHES ALLOWED.
When I was a kid, we used to take a lot of road trips in the family station wagon. It was great for building the bonds with my two brothers and 2 sisters. We played ‘I spy’ and other roadtrip games. We sang ‘Puff the Majic Dragon’ and other popular songs. Of course every now and then, Dad would have to use the Daddy voice when we started getting on each other’s nerves . Something that happened on just about every trip that stood out: Dad would ask Mom, “did you get the …?” I remember she would say ‘Oh no…” It would be something different each time and we would already be a couple of hours out-of-town so we couldn’t turn around. It’s so funny…it happens to us now…but I always try to go over the list while we are still in the driveway.
The best family vacation me and my kids ever had was when they were 11 and 13 years old. My parents live in Tampa, Florida, but they were here in Atlanta that weekend so we stayed in their apartment while they were up here. It was the first time that I was able to provide a vacation that money within reason was not option. My dad had got us discounted tickets to Busch Garden. Saturday we got to the park a little early because we had to wait for the parking lot to open. We enjoyed the park so much. My youngest son didn’t like to ride roller coasters so he had to hold all our things. While me and oldest so rode every rollercoaster at Busch Garden that summer. You know how high the food is in the park, but we were able to eat and drink what and when we wanted without having to think about the cost. After we left the park they wanted to go back to the apartment and get in the pool where they spent another two hours in the water. We later went to CiCi’s where they ate until their stomachs were full and slept that night like babies. The next day we started out on our journey early again. We beached hopped that day. We went to every beach from Clearwater/St. Pete to De Soto Park. I am not a big fan of bridges over a lot of water and my kid knew this. So on the way back home I miss my turn to get on the Gandy bridge which I could handle and I look up I was headed for the interstate 275 bridge. I pull over to the side of the rode and started to panic slightly. There was nowhere for me to turn around so I had to hold my breath, grip the stirring wheel, and ride the middle of the road. My oldest son was sitting up front he turned off the radio, told my youngest son to be quiet and we crossed that bridge in silence. When I got off the bridge my heart was racing but we made it and of course you know they turn the radio back on. When we got back to the apartment they head back to the pool again for another two hours. THIS WAS OUR BEST VACATION EVER.
My family, and I go on vacation each year to the beach for 9 days. We have been going, and staying at the same place for 30 years. This is a very fun time for all of us. We are now 5 generations going. The things that I remember doing as a child I now see my nieces and nephew doing. It’s so great to watch. We enjoy our time on the beach, and the kids getting excited when they hear the bell of the ice cream truck coming closer is awesome. They get their ice cream, and before they can even take the first bite it’s already melting. By the time they get done with it they literally have ice cream from head to toe. They love it though. We also enjoy our time at the pool of the hotel that has a 60 foot waterslide. They kids go up the stairs and down the slide over and over again for hours, and when you tell them it’s time to go you always get the famous 1 more time. We are getting ready to go on this trip, and I’m counting down the days……13 days left.
My husband works for a commercial airline and we have enjoyed and cursed the benefit of travel by way of Non Reservation throughout his career. Back in the “old days” this meant, that you dressed your self in your Sunday best, (suits, ties, dresses, stockings and heels) you checked your bags and you waited at a prescribed terminal gate to see if someone had failed to wake up and get to the plane on time, so you might have the chance of sitting in their seat. I use the word “chance” loosely as you always ran into other “Non Revs” at the same gate hoping to get in that same seat before you did. While you waited to see if you would even get to start your vacation, it gave you the opportunity to size up other non revs lurking about and try to guess if they had more seniority with the Company than we did. Were the other non revs graying in the temples, were their children teenagers or ankle biters? After being “bumped” from two or three flights that we had watched load and depart, we finally got on a plane headed for Calgary, Canada. Given the nature of this kind of travel and the dicey way the trips tend to start out, we often would not make a reservation for a car or hotel, since we were never sure if we would reach our destination. Well we make it as far as the Airport at Calgary; our goal is Banff National Park. Unbeknownst to us, it was the same weekend as several other non publicized events that managed to scarf up almost every available rental car, save one lone compact which we stuffed our luggage and two kids into. Ahhh! By now it is starting to get dark and we hope to put a few miles between us and the airport. We didn’t get very far before we pass several motels with neon “No Vacancy” signs, we keep traveling…more “No Vacancy” signs. Finally, we stop and inquire at one motel and the guy looks at us and says “there’s nothing available for miles.” I think the owner of that motel saw how beat down we were looking, the desperation in my voice, the whiny kids, and he starts to make a couple calls in an effort to keep us from wandering around aimlessly or forced to spend the night in our car. After a few calls he reports good news, there is a vacancy in the town of Canmore. We head for Canmore; we arrive at what appeared to be a Saloon/Brothel, not the first choice for a vacationing family, rather the last resort. We signed in and was handed a couple of dingy towels and a small bar of soap. That should have been our first clue. We found our room on the second floor. Two twin size, dirty looking beds, light bulb hanging from the ceiling and bath sink stuck on the side of the wall. No toilet, no shower, both were down the hall on the right. Needless to say, we were disappointed, but exhausted as we prepared for a long night, opting to sleep on top of the spread and not in the sheets, and a long night it was. Right outside our window was an alley, about 2:30 in the morning a brawl breaks out with several guys cursing and motorcycles gunning up and down the alley. At that point, I sat perched in a chair for the rest of the night waiting for the crack of dawn. The rest of the trip was enjoyable, but that was certainly a memorable night to forget.
Last summer for my mom’s 80th bday, I took her to Austria and the Czech Republic. We were riding a train between Vienna and Prague when the train stopped and an elderly man and about a 6yr old boy joined us in our compartment. Neither spoke a lick of english and were clearly “czech country folks”. (maybe a farmer and his grandson we thought). While we were riding along the boy had a water bottle in his hand and was in my opinion being very good. He was smiling and giggling (as opposed to the american kids down a ways on the train running up and down the halls and screaming) The elderly man, clearly unhappy about something scolded the boy repeatedly. We had no idea why. Then, without warning the elderly man reached across and smacked that boy across the face! A smack that clearly would have someone here thrown in jail. The boy never cried, never whined. He sat very still and had a frown on his face. My mom and I looked at each other in horror but remembered we were in their country now, not ours. When we finally reached Prague and our hotel, my poor mom came down with a bad case of hemorhoides. I went out, not knowing any Czech, looking for a pharmacy where hopefully I could find someone who spoke english. I had visions of trying to describe hemorhoides to someone who didn’t speak english and the thought wasn’t pretty. Luckily I found someone who knew enough English to understand as I stood there pretending to scratch my a** what I was looking for. I kept the Preparation-H box as a souvenir (all the text is in Czech)
About 20 years ago, my family and I planned a vacation to Epcot Center in Orlando. A couple days before leaving for vacation, our pet cat had caught a baby squirrel. We were able to rescue the hairless squirrel, whose eyes had not opened yet, and care for it. The day we drove to Orlando, my father mentioned we could not leave the squirrel in the hotel as there was a chance the hotel staff could find the pet and kick us out. So, we checked into the hotel, freshened up, grabbed the squirrel, which was residing in a Girl Scout Cookie Box, and went to Epcot. Worried about the family budget at the time and the price of admission to the park, an executive decision was made to save the $5 pet boarding fee at Epcot and leave the squirrel in the car. Yes, Precious, the squirrel, was left in the car, in Florida, in the middle of the summer. My family enjoyed the park and, feeling we had just had the best vacation ever, headed back to the car. Getting into the car my mom looked at my father and said, “we have a problem.” Precious was not moving. My mother, who thought Precious had a heart attack, started CPR. As we drove back to the hotel, my sister and I watched in horror as my mother performed mouth to snout. After a few minutes of the life saving technique, my mother told us the squirrel was gone. She put the squirrel back in the Girl Scout Cookie Box and let my sister and me say good bye. When I looked at Precious, she had the look of a hot dog whose eyes had popped open like two fried eggs. Our vacation ended with my mother performing a burial service in the parking lot of the hotel. My father was not in attendance as he was in the dog house. 20 years later my family still reminds my father of the incident with Precious.
One of the best Disney “secrets” is how to ride in the driver’s cabin of the Monorail. You don’t have to be royalty, or even pay extra. You just have to know WHERE to stand. When you approach the monorail entrance go as far forward as you can. You will see a turnstile. There is usually a castmember there so you can ask if you are in the right line. You may have to wait for the second (or third) train, but this is especially helpful after fireworks or parades when the regular cars are slammed full of guests and their strollers. The only downside… a maximum of 4 passengers at any time, so if you have a big family you may have to split up.
I’ve always wanted to see Patagonia in the southern tip of South America, so last fall my dad, his sister Alice, and I made our way down to the Chilean part of the region. The three of us had vacationed together before, and from that, I knew that Alice would keep things lively. After four flights, a taxi, and a bus over the course of four days, we arrived just outside the Torres del Paine National Park in Patagonia. We quickly settled into our hotel and made arrangements to go to the park the next day.
That morning, a bus picked us up and took us to the park, stopping by a convenience store so that we could pick up last-minute necessities. I realized just how differently Alice and I reasoned when I compared our purchases. For our hiking trip, I chose graham crackers and water while she bought chocolate and beer. (My dad, the smartest of the three, didn’t buy anything. He knew that Alice and I would tote our own goods, and then share with him when it was time.)
After a few days of intense trekking through landscapes chock full of snow capped mountains and dotted with guanaco (a relative of the llama), we headed back to civilization. Once we arrived, we sought out a masseuse to work the kinks out of our shoulders and backs that we had acquired from toting around all that water and beer. We promptly spotted a sign in the window of one of the better hotels in town. We went in and made individual appointments for that afternoon. Because I speak Spanish, I was chosen as to go first. I was supposed to scope the place out and report back to the others before they went in.
I entered the tiny room and was greeted by a professional looking middle aged woman. “So far, so good,” I thought. After the usual small talk, she told me to get on the table.
“Should I take my boots off?” I asked in the tone of voice that clearly meant, “Huh? I haven’t even taken my shoes off yet!”
She shrugged her shoulders as if to say, “Whatever.”
I quickly pulled my boots off and hopped on the table, wondering why I hadn’t been told to remove anything else.
“What areas do you want me to focus on?” the lady asked.
“My shoulders and back,” I replied.
For the next hour, she focused almost exclusively on my scalp and face. I was hesitant to say anything because every time that I looked at her, she had her eyes closed and was silently chanting to herself. So I just kept my mouth shut and hoped that she would move to my shoulders and back. Eventually she did, but only for about five minutes. When the hour was up, she informed me that her tip was not included in the price. I nodded, left some money on the table, and went downstairs to pay the rest. Once downstairs, I closed out my bill and looked for Alice, who was supposed to go next. She was nowhere in sight, so I proceeded to the hotel where the three of us were staying and found my dad.
“Where’s Alice?” I asked.
“I don’t know. I guess she’s on her way to get a massage.” He answered.
At that point, I told tell him about my experience. I summed it up with, “Just be ready because it’s not what you’re used to.”
“Okay,” he replied.
Shortly after my dad left for his turn, Alice returned to the room with a bewildered look on her face.
“What did you think of the massage?” she asked.
“It was the lousiest one I’ve ever gotten,” I answered. “What about you?”
She didn’t answer. Instead she asked, “Did you take your clothes off?”
“No,” I responded. “I don’t know how on earth that lady thought she could give me a good rub down when I’m all bundled up in these winter clothes.”
“WHAT?!?!?!” Alice nearly screamed. “YOU DIDN’T TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF?!?!?!?”
“No.” I gave her a funny look. “Did you?”
“Yes! She told me to! She told me to take everything off. EVERYTHING!!!! I removed my shirt and pants, and she just looked at me and told me to take the rest off!” Alice exclaimed.
“Are you sure?” I laughed. “I mean, are you sure that’s what she meant?” I asked.
“YES!!! She told me IN ENGLISH,” Alice said.
“She didn’t speak in English to me at all,” I responded, a little skeptical.
“I swear! She told me in English to take everything off!” Alice protested. “So I did, and got on the table and tried to cover myself with a towel, and she just pulled away. I kept telling myself, ‘Amber did this, Amber did this.’ It was the only thing that got me through.”
By that time I tears were rolling down my face I was laughing so hard.
Alice, however, did not find it funny. “She gave me a nipple massage!”
I nearly wet my pants.
“I just kept repeating to myself, ‘Amber did this. Amber did this.’ I can’t BELIEVE you didn’t take your clothes off! Whatever you do, don’t tell Joe,” Alice pleaded. I howled with laughter, knowing that there was no way on earth I was going to keep this story from my dad.
“How much did you pay?” Alice asked me.
“Thirty dollars, plus a five dollar tip,” I told her. “And you?”
“She charged me FORTY dollars, and that didn’t include a tip!” Alice exclaimed.
“I bet you had to pay extra for the nipple massage,” I gasped hysterically.
When my dad returned, we immediately quizzed him about his experience. “It was okay, but I’ve had better,” he told us. “She talked a lot and didn’t use enough pressure on my back and shoulders.”
I was still reeling from Alice’s story, and could not contain my laughter.
“Well, I guess I’ll tell you before Amber does,” Alice began. And she proceeded to repeat her story again, with more embellishments than before.
My dad and I spent the rest of the trip teasing Alice, asking her if she was ready for another “Patagonian style” massage. To this day, we still double over with laughter when we talk about it.
Every year we take a road trip to Pensacola Beach. Its breathtaking with its sugar white sand and blue clear water. Its a must see & experience. http://www.visitpensacolabeach.com/
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Anita
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I guess you can consider this a family vacation. My father had recently married a bimbo and he wanted me to meet my new “grandparents”. (My dad got along with them because they were the same age.)
On one hot July day, Dad, the bimbo, my boyfriend and I started up the interstate in Dad’s brand new motor home. The bimbo had picked it out so of course, it had all of the bells and whistles. After many miles, my boyfriend told me that he was not feeling well and went into the bathroom. That is when we discovered that there was something horribly wrong with the plumbing.
The smell that filled vehicle was deadly. The bimbo and I kept looking at each other, and finally broke into hysterical laughter. We started opening every window as quickly as possible which resulted in everything not tied down to start blowing around like we were stuck in the middle of a tornado. Soon thereafter, we discovered that opening the windows and letting in hot air only exacerbated the smell.
My father reacted to the smell and the flying debris by trying to outrun it. The worse the smell got, the faster he drove. Pretty soon, we were flying. He passed everyone and everything. You know how they tell you to vary your speed when breaking in a new vehicle, well that went out the window (while the smell did not). He had the pedal to the metal and was not letting up.
My boyfriend finally came out of the bathroom, looking sort of green. When he realized what he had caused, he played the “I am sick” card (which was really the “I am embarrassed” card) and went to the back to lie down.
Shortly afterward, he called me to the back. There, he took my hand and asked me to marry him. That was almost 15 years ago and we have been happily married for over 14 years now. Dad and the bimbo did not fare as well. She has gone back to bimbo-land which made everyone happy.
So, while most women can paint a pretty picture of the story of how they got engaged, the one I can relate has mini-tornados, noxious odors and my dad driving up the interstate like a bat out of hell.
I often frequent National and State parks any chance I get. I absolutely love the outdoors that is when it’s not a code orange smog alert day. I feel that parks are treasures and are great for getting and staying in touch with nature. They are places to unwind and remove you from the daily bump and grind. I do not know whether or not the free weekend deals will encourage or entice anyone to visit a park, but what else can a park offer? Most already have free admission, free walking/hiking trails, free educational classes and tours, and so on. If the free weekend deals help bring a couch potato or serious gamer outside, then I think that’s a good thing. If it brings a family closer together, I feel that’s wonderful. If this helps anyone appreciate the beauty of Nature, I think this is fantastic!
I’m sending my husband to Gulf Shores, Alabama for a long weekend of golf…but he has to bring me and the kids with him! Can’t pass up a family vacation at the Alabama Gulf Coast. And it’s a great place for golf, so he’ll get plenty of time on the green that weekend!
Georgia folks in NYC
When we were in college, my husband (boyfriend then) and I decided to go to New York City with my sister and a friend of hers. My parents were living in New Jersey so it was an easy hour bus ride. We arrived at Port Authority bus station in New York not knowing what to expect. The first thing we saw when getting off the bus was a crash right in front of us. Two cars collided into each other. The drivers got out, started cursing and yelling at each other. Then they proceeded to get back in their cars and drive off. What a welcome to the Big Apple! Well now we are in NY, what should we do? Going to see a Broadway play sounded like a great idea! We went to Times Square to buy tickets and were amazed at the mobs of people waiting in line. We proceeding to get in a random line and after about 45 minutes of not moving anywhere, we realized the futility of this venture. Someone told us we could go to the Winter Garden theatre and get tickets there to see Cats. We found our way there and hopped in another long line. We were getting tired and hungry so while we waited, my husband went across the street to get Arby’s. He had to take out a loan at the bank next door for the unbelievable New York prices for a measly greasy meal. After another hour, we made it to the ticket window only to be told the only seats left were balcony seats with a partial view for $45! We decided it wasn’t worth it. Now we have wasted a couple of hours in New York City and haven’t seen anything! We headed to the Empire State Building. At this point, I really needed to use the bathroom. I asked the guard where to find a bathroom and he rudely says “Upstairs! Move along!” Upstairs??! We got our tickets and proceeding to the line. I think all people do in New York City is wait in line! We go up the elevator a few flights and got off again looking for a bathroom. Once again we were told the bathroom was Upstairs…Yes, I had to go to the top of the Empire State Building to find a bathroom! Next we planned to go to the Statue of Liberty. However, when we got there, the last ferry of the day had left. We braved ourselves on the subway with a lot of rude and pushy people. Getting directions was nearly impossible and the maps were confusing and not very helpful. We finally made it to Little Italy for a delicious Italian dinner (the highlight of the trip!) Then we realized that we had to find our way back to Port Authority to get home. We were on the subway discussing how to get back when another man told us he was going there so follow him. He got off and we set out to follow him. Being from the South, we were not used to the pace of the New Yorkers. He took off running and we boogied after him. It was quite the site, the four of us chasing the strange man down the street. A couple of times we thought we’d lost him, but one of us would shout “There he goes around that corner! Hurry!”. Breathless and tired, we finally made it to the bus station. My husband decided that New York City was too faced-paced and unfriendly for his taste. He was ready to go home to the southern hospitality of Atlanta.
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We’re leaving in a week to Cancun mexico. I’ve been reading alot, and it obviuos its not a ghost town, things are open.(malls and clubs) Hope everything will be fine. I will for sure comment on this site when i get back.
So my wife and I are on a company trip to Amelia Island and staying at the Ritz Carlton. I’m scheduled to play golf with a colleague but I have to rush to take a shower and in my haste to get in and get out, I hang my shirt from the emergency fire sprinkler on the ceiling just inside the bathroom door. As I’m showering my wife rushes in, the door brushes the shirt and sets off the emergency fire sprinkler in the room and I mean it was like Niagara Falls in the bathroom. A flood begins in the bathroom with water running into the bedroom and out into the hallway. My wife is screaming, not knowing what has happened–only that she is being sprayed with gray water. I’m in a panic running out of the room with just a towel setting off other alarms trying to find a housekeeping person. I made the tee time but we’ve never been invited back!
How about everyone just pays by the pound? You would be charged a flat rate for your seat and then a premium based on your weight. So the 120 lb woman pays one price and the 300 lb man pays another. This should cover the airline’s expense of occasionally needing to allot an extra seat for a large person and rewards people for being lighter. That could be positive public health intervention as well as good business practice.
Wow. What an ugly issue, huh? In 2 weeks I am going to Ireland & I have been in tears since I purchased the tickets. Why? Im fat. LOL! If you think it’s uncomfortable to sit NEXT to me? Try BEING me!! I am already anticipating the narrow ailes, the seats, the struggle with the seatbelt – and oh no… the bathrooms! I don’t know if I require a belt extension. I Can put my armrest down, but not sure about the tray! AND I am able to squeeze my “girth” into the seat. But It still sucks. For me, the person next to me, and for the poor flight attendants who have to “watch me” board to see if Im gonna cause the plane to lean to one side.
This is my question. From reading people’s cruel & humiliating respnses re: fluffy folks having the NERVE to leave our houses & force the perfect to look at us – what is the issue? Is the issue #1 – charge us more as a form of punishment for letting ourselves “go” & wanting to fly somewhere? Why should we have to buy another seat?? WHY can’t the airlines accomodate us? which, in turn, accomodates you perfect skinny people?? OR #2 – Is the issue that there is an actual SAFETY concern regarding our weighing more than average, thus creating a risk to the mechanics of the aircraft?? Many of you mention that we should have to weigh-in & pay a “fat tax” if we exceed the set requirement. That IS reason enough to charge us more & I would have no problem with that. I want a safe flight too!!
Many of you – and RIGHTLY SO – commented that you paid for a full seat on a flight and deserve to enjoy your trip. Absolutely. Totally agree. BUT – I did too. I paid for a seat on a plane & like it or not – I deserve to be comfortable as well & not subjected to nasty remarks, insults, stares & humiliation. Why am I “lesser” of a customer, deserving of nothing, but expected to pay the same as, if not twice as much as the skinny? If airlines are going to charge us more, humiliate us in front of everyone, threat “bumping” us off the flight… why should I have to pay to be treated that way?? Would any of you skinny folks pay more for that treatment? Do you really think that makes me feel good? Do you really think Im not aware of my weight issue? Do you really think I’m luggin’ this extra crap around with me for giggles??
Make the reason for the discrimination clear at least. I’m a kind person. I’m a reasonable person. I am a respectful person. I am a mother, a daughter, an aunt, a sister & a friend. I am a 911 dispatcher who may save your life someday. Would it really be such a hardship on you all to be as kind to me as I am to you?
Yes, YOU… the one who’s been up drinking all night & smells like stale booze. YOU, the chain smoker. YOU, the one who refuses to wear deodorant. YOU, the one who bathes in perfume/cologne. YOU, who ate a pound of garlic before boarding & didn’t brush their teeth. YOU, with the crying baby, sick baby, hyper-active toddler, or kid that stares at me through the crack between the seats in front of mine. YOU, who won’t stop talking to me. YOU, who WON’T talk to me. You with the spider legs longer than the aisle who has no choice but to stretch them over near me…(and go right ahead! BUT,only after you purchase an extra “floor” space).
I appreciate EVERYONE’s right to get what they paid for & expect a comfortable flight where they can move & breath & not feel “smooshed”… I really do. I want that as well.
How about instead of attacking us poor, lazy, smelly, oozers of fat into others paid for personal space – we ask the airline’s to stop packing us in like sardines & for THEM to address the issue. Don’t any of you get that?? The airlines are struggling & instead of providing REAL answers & resolutions – they are pointing to the fat & yelling “blame them!! it’s all their fault!! We don’t like them on our planes EITHER!!” and ask them to grow the hell up & make seats/sections available to accomodate ALL customers who are paying the SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY & deserve the SAME treatment.
Thanks for allowing me to vent – and if any of you are forced to sit next to me in 2 weeks to Ireland, I promise to lean out into the aisle the entire 10hours & make sure NONE of our body parts even slightly touch….
Spring Break 2007. My family and I were on a short get-a-way to Helen, Ga and my kids wanted to swim so we hunted a hotel that had a indoor pool because it was kinda chilly. So we wound-up at the Super 8, checked in for a 2 night stay, paid cash(upfront), went to our room and changed to go to the pool. We had a great time in the pool and went back to our room to shower and get ready for bed. Thats when the trouble started….(I am the practical joker in the family and I am always trying to scare everyone.)So my kids got out of the shower and the floor in the bathroom was wet, I had my pj’s on and I had to use the bathroom, so I grabbed a towel, wiped up the floor and tossed it in front of the sink in the other room. Well, when I tossed it there was something brown that looked like a shoe string. Well, being funny, I screamed SNAKE. My husband and kids jumped on top of the beds sreaming and yelling “Get it, Get it” I’m laughing at them, bent over the towel to actually see what was in it and dang if it wasn’t a snake. It looks up at me and hisses and a fork-it tounge come out and shakes at me! Then I really start screaming snake, snake! I WET MYSELF!(I do not like snakes at all)and they knew that I was for real this time. My husand, not coming to my rescue, yells at me to get the garbage can and put it over it. I say a few bad words at him and try to get him to understand that “he” is “the man” and he should be the one to trap the snake. My kids were screaming, My oldest daughter was yelling she wanted to take a picture of it and all I was thinking was this snake is between me and the door, and if the flash goes off will it scare the snake more and it come after me like the deer did in “Are we there yet”. Well,”I” trap the snake in the garbage can, with my husband still standing on the bed and my kids run to get the front desk attendant. The lady come in and takes the snake, kills it and returns to informs us that it was a baby copperhead. She asks us if we wanted to change rooms, my husband tells her that it was late(by this time it was 1:00am)and he did not want to move everything so “he” was ok. SHe leaves our room. I explain to him(in a nice, sweet, calm voice)that if there is a baby cooperhead, there is a BIG MAMA Copperhead somewhere near and me and the kids would not be staying in that room, we would be sleeping in the truck! He then decides that we should change rooms. The lady at the front desk changes our room to a room on the upper floor, kinda laughing about our situation. We get to the other room and we try to settle-in, it is now about 3:00am. We try to watch happy cartoons to forget about the snake. That works for my husband and kids, they fall asleep(for a little while)I keep watching cartoons and a dang GEICO commerical comes on, that stupid lizards tail looks like a snake wiggling around. Then everything starts looking like little snakes. Even on Sponge Bob-theres a little eel that looks like a snake. I start feeling like something is crawling on me, I can’t sleep so I go downstrairs and wait for them to wake-up. They come down around 8:00am and say that they can’t rest either. We speak to the new lady at the counter and explain that we would not be staying the 2nd night and she stated that the other lady told her what had happened and that she was sorry. Well, I was really expecting to be refunded(at least)for the 2nd night that we had pre-paid for and she said that she couldn’t do that and that we needed to speak to the manager that was out of town and he would get with us sometime next week. I kept calling and calling for a few weeks only to finally receive a letter from the hotel that stated that they were sorry for our “unwanted, un-invited guest” in our room,(never mentioned SNAKE) and offered us a free night stay. We NEVER took them up on the offer!
My wife and our son took a Disney Cruise, which was wonderful by the way, and booked the flights both ways with all transfers included. Everything was great until it was time to come home. Instead of the Orlando Airport, where we flew into, we were routed to I believe, Melbourne. We were the only people routed that way so we had our own special car and driver. After we finally found our own special car and driver, we took off for the wonderful airport in Melbourne, Florida. We arrived a bit over 3 hours before our flight left so we checked in and went through security, to the gate. The airport is not quite what we were used to in Atlanta, but then again, we would still be on Delta. After a short time of waiting, the other flight, (not flights), left the airport. Ironically, it was also for Atlanta. The wonderful people of the Delta crew finished up their work after the flight left and they took off for the terminal lobby. There was one guy who was working a small snack table and he left also. This left myself, my wife, and my son to occupy the whole concourse. Not another soul in sight. It didn;t take long to get thirsty so I went looking for some refreshment. Not one machine or water fountain in sight. I told my wife I would go back through the terminal and get us something to drink and a snack, to bide our time. I goth the snacks and started to go back to the concourse and take their snacks and was stopped at security and told I could not go back to the gate. The reason stated to me was that security was at lunch. It would be an hour or so until they returned. OK, can you go tell my wife to come out and wait with me. No I can’t. Is their anyone who can go tell them to come out? No I was told. I went to the Delta ticket counter and the same helpful people who were at the gate for the earlier flight were standing there doing absolutely nothing. I told them my dilema and asked for their help. There comment was, that they had no one who could go get my wife and son. OK, call back there and page them. No, can’t do that either. All these people were going to let my wife and six year old son wait there for the better part of two hours, not knowing where I was or what I was doing, in a strange airport on top of that. I went up the chain of command until I reached the airpot manager and he was able to convince the helpful Delta folks that they could go get my wife and son. They finally, rudely, went and asked her to come out and meet me. Had I been the type person to yell, they would have heard me calling them. It was that close, but all the helpful security workers couldn’t go back and get them. We finally were able to board and fly home, back to Atlanta. Here we go to pick up our luggage and, yep, you guessed it. It was not there. Without going into detail about that fiasco, it took me 5 more helpful security people, until one of them would look on their little handheld and tell me that my luggage was sent on the frst flight, that left as we were checking into the Melbourne Airport. It was already in the lost and found office, on a shelf. Moral of the story is; I think I will drive to the port for my next cruise.
My family and I just took a 7 day trip to Pigeon Forge, TN. My family included my 4 kids ages 15,17,and twins 13, my two dogs, myself and husband and our fish named Killer riding in a Expedition packed to the rim. Upon our arrival we decided to stop at the Dollar General to get some paper items. After shopping in the store I took my items to the car and proceeded to take the shopping cart back to be placed with others that were outside. I was almost there when I saw a SNAKE about 6 feet long and a little fatter than a 16 oz bottle. It’s head was in an attack mode. I took off, left the buggy there and started screaming snake and ran, ran, ran. I was ready to run back to Ga. After that major shock, I didn’t know if I wanted to stay but the family talked me into continuing the trip. From that point on it rained cats and dogs everyday and my children were acting out because we didn’t have any reception or WIFI in the cabin. We went to Dollywood and got rained out. Then the cabin was not the best. Imagine in a cabin with all the kids and animals with nothing to do and having to cook everyday. I went on a nightmare journey not a vacation.
What a shame the AJC is sponsoring a “travel horror stories” contest, when the nation’s tourism industry — and Americans who work in it, and those whose livelihoods are in a trickle down fashion also dependent upon it — have been so negatively impacted due to the economy.
Why not be “part of the solution” instead and sponsor a contest about the best vacation taken in the USA? Or where/why would you like to visit someplace in this great land of ours next vacation?
We were at Club Med Turks and Caicos for our Honeymoon in 1995. As part of our excursion, we were able to rent a deserted island. We met the boat at the appointed time and we were taken to our “island.” I asked the boat driver, “If it rains, do we move to another island?”. Ronnie Rastafarian responds, “Yeah mon. No Worries”. Well 15 minutes after drop off, the storm clouds closed in with a torrential downpour. With only a mesh umbrella lined with scuba flippers ,to keep our stuff dry. It didn’t really work out. We had a cooler with a baguette, a boiled egg and ham. Around lunch we were blessed by 16 minutes of sunshine, which was long enough for the reef sharks to close in on our position and keep us on the beach. The rains started up again, so severely we couldn’t see 10 feet in front of us. Well, the boat arrived promptly at 6:00 pm, exactly 1 hour late. The new rasta driving the boat had gotten lost on his way to find us. He anchors the boat, trims the motor up and we load up. The trim won’t push the motor back down, and the boat is drifting with the tides. I finish the beer that was left in the cooler. I put on my snorkel mask and go overboard. I am looking around and notice the huge channel in the seabed. It’s the anchor, not holding, at all. We are being pulled into the serious channel. I bring this to the attention of our “Captain”. He immediately brings out the radio and calls for help. As I am watching this unfold, he doesn’t realize the radio is not even wired in, nor wireless! So our mayday calls go unheard. After one hour of trying, we finally got the motor started. As the “captain” takes off, I hear this enormous banging. I realize that the anchor has not been brought back up and is banging into the hull, repeatedly. We stop, I haul the anchor in and we get back. We find out when we return the storm was the outer bands of a hurricane. We have the vast majority of this whole day on tape.
Not to be outdone by the weather, we had the ability to use a trapeze at the resort. Two days later, we did the introductory class and went up on the trapeze. I am a large man. 6′2″ tall and 250 pounds. When i went off the platform and my shoulders had to hold my wait, needless to say it pulled both shoulders out of joint. Nothing has worked right since.
Perdido Key in Florida was one of the best vacations I ever took! We didn’t play “pull my finger”, but we did swim and play frisbee on the gorgeous beaches, and we even went camping for a few days! Perdido Key was an absolute blast.
Perdido Key in Florida was a great vacation! And the drive down wasn’t too horrific. The scenes of the coastline are absolutely gorgeous and keep you pretty entertained, instead of having to play “pull my finger!” we sat back and enjoyed the ride.
My Husband and I love to scuba dive. We try to take a trip once a year. We went with a group to Cozumel, Mexico. I did not feel the need to take my entire wallet so at the last minute, before leaving for the airport, I took my credit card wallet out of my purse and threw it on the bed taking only my one credit card and my Green card out of the wallet and sliding them both into the side flap of my purse…or so I thought….. (My green card was in an envelope to protect the magnetic strip) We had a great 5 day dive trip and on Sunday we headed back to Cancun to catch our flight to Atlanta. Standing in line at the check in counter I reached into my purse felt the envelope with my “green” card and pulled it out to present it with my passport, imagine my horror when I looked down and saw what I was holding was my work “Manager card”, the only other card I keep in an envelope!! I rummaged back into my purse and there was nothing else in the side pocket… I had a semi out of body experience as I realized that in my haste to discard my wallet back in Atlanta I had pulled out the only other card that I kept in an envelope, and being in a hurry had not actually looked at it as I stuffed it into my wallet… Yikes!! I tried to stay calm and not panic, hoping that delta check in might not ask for the green card. I know I was grasping at straws at this point, but thought that seeing as I have plenty of stamps in my passport showing back and forth travel and I have a USA driver’s license I might be OK! Well that was not the case. They refused to allow me on the plane. Our dive master tried to convince them that he would be responsible for me and that once we got to Atlanta I would not try to enter the USA until my husband went home and retrieved my green card, they still refused to let me board the flight… after much consternation it became clear I was not going anywhere without that green card… I convinced my husband he would have to leave me in Cancun and return to Atlanta to get my card and send it to me…. Easier said than done! Monday also happened to be a federal Holiday so we knew we would get no help till Tuesday if at all, so it made sense to leave me in Mexico and for the Husband to try to overnight my card. Hotel arrangements were made and I bid farewell to all our scuba friends.( all 19 of them!!) Of course looking stupid in front of all those people did not help with the way I was feeling right then either. So off I went into a taxi to take me to the hotel. I would spend the next three nights in Mexico, while my husband tried to get me my green card! I got ripped off in the taxi on the way to the hotel; over paying by 450 Pesos…I found this out on the way back to the Airport as I had an honest taxi driver for that occasion…. So I settled in and for two days had a migraine headache with no medication. Back in Atlanta my husband was hitting a few bumps of his own…Try telling someone you are mailing a green card to Mexico and see how unhelpful they become…after three attempts to get a carrier to overnight my green card, he found one that will remain unnamed, as they said they should not do it but they could see his growing distress. Being international it would not necessarily be overnight but it would get to me as fast as humanly possible. In the interim I was calling from the hotel using my credit card to find out when I should receive my green card, and then on the second day of my exile, my bank noticing the calls and charges coming out of Mexico put a block on my card! My first indication was at lunch when the waiter returned my card and said did I have another form of payment…luckily I had some pesos so I paid left and returned to the hotel, tried to call my bank to see what was going on as I knew I had plenty of $$ in the account. So now I cannot even make that call as the phone company is telling me my card is blocked. I am wondering how I am going to pay for the hotel stay. I have only 500 pesos. I am at this point still thinking I need the 500 pesos to get back to the Airport. I managed to have one of the telephone operators call my husband and have him call me so I could tell him my card is blocked and get my bank on the phone and unblock my card… Finally on Wednesday I received the envelope with my green card, I checked out and rushed to the Airport to try to get on the 4pm flight, I just made it and arrived back in Atlanta later that night…After that experience I decided it as time to apply for my USA Citizenship so that would never happen again and I am glad to say I am now a US citizen! The phone charges on my card, alone, were over $800 for those 4 days…That was 5 years ago, now finally, I can laugh about it, but at the time it was not at all amusing!
IN THE LATE SEVENTIES,AS TEENAGERS,ABOUT 6 OF US WENT TO FLORIDA.WE HAD USE OF A CONDO ON THE BEACH FOR A WEEK ,FREE!THE IST DAY WAS PERFECT.IT STARTED RAINING THE 2ND DAY.IT RAINED 17 INCHS THAT WEEK.AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF CABIN FEVER,A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS WERE OUT ON THE BALCONY HORSEPLAYING,WHEN ONE OF THEM SLIPPED AND FELL OVER THE RAILING.HE FELL 5 STORIES!!!HE LANDED ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ THAT WAS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT BELOW.WE THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD,BUT THE HOOD BROKE HIS FALL ENOUGH,THAT HE WAS JUST KNOCKED OUT.HE WAS OUT FOR 36 HRS!HE AWAKENED AND ,OTHER THAN BEING SORE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ,HE WAS FINE.THE WORST PART WAS CALLING HIS PARENTS(WHO DID NOT LIKE US),TO COME AND PICK HIM UP AT THE HOSPITAL IN A STATION WAGON.WE LATER LAUGHED ABOUT THE WHOLE ORDEAL,BECAUSE MERCEDES HAD ALWAYS CLAIMED TO BUILD THE SAFEST CARS IN THE WORLD.MY FRIEND WAS LIVING PROOF OF THAT!!!!!
In 2001, my wife and I took our Honeymoon to St. Lucia in the Caribbean. We were staying at a nice all-inclusive resort and all was well for the first two days. However, on the third day, I awoke with a stomach ache that I subsequently ignored while drinking, snorkeling, just trying to make the most of our time. Later that day, I became violently ill, throwing up with severe pains and other digestion related complications. I went on like this for a while until I became sick to the point where I couldn’t walk. I somehow ended up on the phone with a doctor who told me I needed to go to a hospital. However, the hotel did not help us get there! There was no ambulance and we had to call a taxi to take me into Castries and to the hospital. I was carried into the hospital by my wife and a man from the hotel who had finally volunteered to come and help us. They took me through the lobby (dirty with little plastic public school chairs) and into the main room of the hospital where there were 6 beds (for a city of 60,000!). They took me to a bed that I noticed had blood stains on the sheets and laid me down. I remained there for a while, watching the bugs crawl on the wall next to me. Much time passed, and I didn’t know why my wife wasn’t with me and why no one was examining or treating me. I later found out that the hospital refused to treat me until my wife brought back a receipt from the lobby saying she had paid. The complication with this is that she was very stressed out and hadn’t eaten in a while and therefore had fainted in the lobby. All this time my eyes were rolling in to the back of my head and I was certain that bad things were coming. Anyway, there was a tall man in the bed next to me who woke up about this time. I heard him say “Boy”, “Hey Boy, I’m going to kill you boy”. He kept repeating this over and over and over for what seemed like an eternity. Finally, my wife arrived, handed the doctor a yellow paper, came over, slammed the curtain shut between me and the crazy man who wanted to kill me and sat down on the bed next to me. At this point, I needed to go to the bathroom (I still hadn’t been examined or treated). My wife walked me there. It turns out that the bathroom was a toilet with no seat and no toilet paper that sat exposed along a wall in a hallway. I sat there and then realized that something was off. There was no wall at the end of the hallway! There was a crumbling section of a wall with people milling about on the other side of it, all of them watching me half-consciously using the toilet in the hall. After that ordeal, my wife walked me back to the treatment room and to my bed. Finally, the doctor came over and pulled out a needle (which was not brand new and pulled from a sterile package ) and started the IV. I was there on the IV and sleeping for hours. Eventually, they told us to leave. We had to call a cab, I still had to be carried to it and got back to the hotel. The next day, my wife informed me that we had spent $125 of the $175 we had left on us and still had several days of the trip left to go. We then had to spend the other $50 on a prescription I was given and the taxi to go and get the prescription. Good thing it was an all-inclusive resort! That was it, we tried to enjoy the rest of the trip while I recovered. I’d love to win a trip so that I could give my wife the Honeymoon she never had!
WE WENT TO NEW YORK FOR SPRING BREAK.. MY HUSBAND AND 10 YEAR OLD TWINS.. OUR KIDS LOVE NEW YORK AND WE WERE GOING TO DO IT UP IN THE BIG CITY! ON DAY 2 OF OUR TRIP I STARTED TO FEEL KIND OF CRUMMY , BUT I DID NOT LET THAT INTERFERE WITH OUR FUN.. I HAD A REALLY BAD INTESTINAL BUG, BUT BEING STUBBORN.. I TRUDGED ON AND DID NOT LET ON THAT I FELT LIKE CRAP….ON OUR SECOND TO LAST DAY WE WENT TO A FABULOUS SHOW THAT I HAD WAITED 2 YEARS TO SEE.. BEFORE THE SHOW WE WENT TO DINNER AND MY DAUGHTER CLAIMED THAT SHE DID NOT FEEL TO WELL.. I TOLD HER TO SIP COKE AND SHE WOULD BE FINE.. WELL WE GOT TO THE SHOW .. AT THE INTERMISSION SHE SAID SHE FELT LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO PUKE.. WELL SHE RAN TO THE BACK OF THE FANCY THEATER AND BARFED ALL OVER THE FLOOR AS PEOPLE WERE MILLING AROUND GETTING DRINKS AND PROGRAMS ETC… SHE KEPT BARFING.. THE USHERS RAN TO GET TOWELS ETC AND THE THEATER MANAGER CAME AND LOOKED UPSET.. BUT GOT SOMEONE TO HELP ME CLEAN UP THE MESS…. I TRIED HELPING AND PEOPLE KEPT WALKING THRU IT WITHOUT LOOKING!… THE 2ND HALF WAS ABOUT TO START AND EVERYONE GOT BACK TO THEIR SEATS.. ALL EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SITTING IN FRONT OF US… AND MY DAUGHTER SAID SHE FELT BETTER… WELL… THE CURTAIN WENT UP AND A FEW SECONDS LATER… SHE BARFED AGAIN.. THIS TIME ..ON ME… I RAN HER TO THE BACK OF THE THEATER AND SHE BARFED INTO THE TRASHCAN IN THE REAR OF THE THEATER!
WHAT A SHOW!
THE NEXT MORNING, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE OUR LAST DAY, WE HAD BOOKED A LATER FLIGHT SO WE COULD ENJOY THE DAY… WE ENDED UP IN BED IN THE HOTEL ROOM.. MY HUSBAND WAS WORKING ON HIS LAPTOP, DAUGHTER IN BED FEELING BAD AGAIN, ME FEELING A LITTLE BETTER, AND THEN MY SON SAID THAT HE FELT TERRIBLE AND HE BARFED ALL OVER THE FLOOR OF THE HOTEL BATHROOM..THEN CRAWLED BACK INTO BED… WE FELT MISERABLE BUT HAD FUN ANYWAYS! NEVER A DULL MOMENT!
How about this for a “vacation of a lifetime.” I’m a school teacher in Dekalb, so my husband and I were married last year after school ended. So this year (literally just 2 weeks ago), we were packed and getting ready to leave for the airport for our 1 year anniversary trip to Spain. Our plan was to travel the country for about 8 days, via trains, rental cars, etc.
On Monday, June 1 (our flight was to leave at 5:45 to Barcelona), I went outside to cover the grill on our back patio at 12:45PM…since we were leaving for the airport at 3:00. As I moved the grill to put it back in place, I felt a sharp pain on my right foot. At first, I thought it was a bee sting…but as I jumped away and looked down, I see a foot-long copperhead snake!!! It had bitten my 2nd toe on my right foot.
My husband rushed me to the paramedics, who took me to the hospital. The initial diagnosis was that I’d have to stay for 2 hours for observation….then it became 6 hours. Delta was AWESOME, and agreed to move our flights, at no charge, to Tuesday, June 2….then, they made me stay overnight…which then became 2 nights.
As I write this, I’ve just begun walking (limping–not near full use yet), and I drove for the first time on Saturday.
We had to cancel everything–hotels in 5 cities, Rail Europe train passes, rental cars, meeting with friends, and our flights. So rather than shopping in museums, sampling all kinds of Spanish culture, and seeing the great museums of Spain (I’m an art teacher), I spent the vaction on crutches and laid up, taking pain and poison medications. Call it the nightmare vacation that never got off the ground.
A lovely and expensive vacation to a St. Kitt’s resort. Upon arrival, no fruity drink with an umbrella, no one to haul our bags through the resort and up three flights of steps after an 11 hour trek to get there and that was just the beginning.
The next day, the afternoon tea sandwiches consisted of Velveeta cheese on stale white bread that I wouldn’t even feed to the cats hanging around the pool.
It was the drinks after dinner the first night that started all the trouble when some drunken teenagers from the UK picked a fight over a discussion about basketball with my (then) boyfriend. They broke his foot, two ribs, and gave him a black eye. Security didn’t help and just let it continue. They threatened to stab me in my “liver”.
The following morning, I went to get some breakfast to take back to the room and the hotel manager called me over to the desk. He told me we had to leave the resort as the folks from UK always had “special treatment”. Was this guy kidding me? We paid a lot of money for a dream vacation – no way we were leaving. I told him to call the police – he wouldn’t. He told me we had to leave the resort in the morning and couldn’t return until evening and that was the only way he wouldn’t kick us out of our room.
I called our travel agent who could not do anything. I rented a Jeep and broken foot and I would go out all day. The shining spot of the entire vacation were the pristine beaches that we never would have found had we not been forced to leave the “compound”.
Some years ago, I took a vacation through Togo, Ghana, and Cote D’Ivoire. I was a peace corps volunteer living in Niger at the time, and was SO looking forward to seeing green things, water, and fruit (Niger is pretty much entirely Sahara desert). My traveling buddy and I were fairly broke, so we were traveling with just a little bit of cash and nothing else (we only earned $175 a month as volunteers – and had no credit cards or bank accounts as back-up).
We started in Togo, which was lovely and lush. A ‘butterfly walk’ through the forest revealed not a single butterfly, but that was ok – there were pineapples and fruit growing right out of the ground and that was awe-inspiring enough (did I mention that Niger is a desert?). We traveled by bush taxi to Ghana, still having a great time. We stayed at some pretty crappy hotels, but that was expected on our budget. We decided to be adventerous and cross the border into Cote D’Ivoire by a less-traveled route – by canoe. Unfortunately, the town where the boats take off from was tiny, empty, and had no banks. Almost all of our currency was in Ghanaian ceedees, which are worthless outside of Ghana. We forged ahead, thinking someone in Cote D’Ivoire would surely change our money for us.
We hit Cote D’Ivoire, and the little canoe dropped us off at a remote guard post in the middle of nowhere with only us 2 women and 3 male soldiers at the post – around us was just forest for seemingely forever. They seemed friendly, and served us tea just before the bus came. We got on the bus, and had the most bizarre experience of our lives trying to get to Abidjan. Turns out the tea was drugged – an apparently common trick to enable the soldiers to then steal everything from unsuspecting travelers before they are loaded on the bus to the city. Our bus was – fortunately – on time. So we had nothing stolen, but were completely dazed and nearly incoherent for the trip. The trip took around 4 hours; in my memory it was at least 23 hours and went round and round past the same odd patch of forest. I have a vague memory of being dropped off in a huge bus port station, and of stepping off the bus and thinking I might fall straight over. I remember following my traveling companion blindly to the next bus for us to get on, my brain wasn’t working and I couldn’t quite connect where we were or where on earth we were walking to. Frighteningly enough, she remembers it as *me* being the one to find the correct bus, and swears that she followed me in an exhausted stupor and has no idea how *I* got us to the bus. How we actually got on that bus will forever be a mystery.
We made it to the Abidjan airport early the next morning, and decided to wait all day for our evening flight back home as we still had no money in acceptable currencies. When the time for the flight came, there was no mention of it on the board. We asked at the counter, and were told the flight didn’t exist. ??? That was it – no other explanation. Your flight doesn’t exist, go home. There will be a flight that *does* exist tomorrow.
Well, we had no money, so along with some other folks we tried to sleep in the airport. They kicked us out at nightfall and locked the doors. So we decided to sleep on the lawn with the other Africans that had been kicked out with us. Around an hour later security came and chased us off the lawn. Having no idea what to do, and still being fairly woozy even a full day later (hunger might have played a part in that), we spent some of our pathetic amount of CFAs (local currency) to take a taxi to a horrible little hotel near the airport. We begged begged begged the hotel guy to accept our $4 or so for a room. He finally gave us a room (for nearly the rest of our cash) that appeared to be some sort of utility room, but that had 2 tiny, dirty little beds in it. We shoved furniture up against the door (this was really not a good area of town we were in) and tried to sleep. The next day, hungry and exhausted, we made it back to the airport where the flight really did exist.
The flight, operated by Air Ivoire, was horrifying. The carpet on the floor was ripped and showing plywood planks, there was water dripping on our heads, roaches ran by as the stewardess came through and sprayed us all with pesticide. The take-off was shaky and the landing in Mali for our layover was terrifying. It was so bad an African passenger (we were the only non-Africans on the plane) stood up and tried to rally us all to leave the plane in protest and demand a new plane for the next leg to Niger. Not a one of us budged. Much like the rest of the passengers, there was no way we could afford to buy another plane ticket – or even a bus ticket (Mali also uses CFA as currency – same as Cote D’Ivoire and Niger – and we had none). We also knew full well that Air Ivoire would have no qualms at all about leaving an entire group of passengers standing on the tarmac rather than capitulate to any demands. In the decision of whether to risk falling out of the sky on a broken plane, or being stranded in Mali with no credit card, no money, no phone, and no idea how to make it home – we chose the plane.
The plane of course made it to Niger, and all of the passengers cheered in joy when we landed and were still alive. We were able to find tourists heading to Ghana to buy our ceedees in exhcange for CFA, so we could make it from the airport back to our villages. I still have lovely memories of Togo and Ghana, though my memories of the last few harrying days of the trip exist in my mind as a hazy, drug-induced dreamlike nightmare. I still travel in ways that are probably inadviseable, but now I *ALWAYS* have back-up funds in US dollars, always have a credit card, and never accept offers of free drinks!
Well, My story isn’t just about a normal vacation my horror story is about my HONEYMOON!! . Of course you all know weddings are stressful in themselves but it all started on our wedding night we get to the hotel close to the interstate so we can continue to Myrtle Beach for our week long honeymoon and also the first time either of us had been. We get to the hotel and they have given out our nice big king size room with jazzcuzzi and were completely booked up so we settled for a regular room but still had a jazzcuzzi we got o get outta the car and my new husband has hurt his back playing with the ringbearers so he can’t move ( that made for an interesting wedding night) so I was ready to just cancel the honeymoon thinking wewouldnt have much fun if he was in so much pain but he said no way so I ran to Wal-Mart and got a back brace and pain killers and we were on our way Well we get to our beach front hotel and guess what they are doing construction of half of it so it is loud and dirty and right under or room! Well the hotel was nice enough to move us but the view wasn’t near as good. So my new husband is in pain and crabby so we stay in the hotel that night well the next morning we wake up and he can’t get out of bed!! I am thinking”oh lord great we are going to be rugged from now on if I have to get help getting my husband outta bed because his back was hurt on our honeymoon” Well we finally got him out of bed and half way dressed and went of search for a cure Well we finally spot a chriopractor’s office and pull in and since we were across state lines they wouldn’t take his insurance so I had to go find atm to cash and come back well that was pretty much the end of that day because he was so sore from his disc being put back in we just laid in the pool at the hotel. Day 3 we wake up he is feeling ok so we decide to go exploring (for fun not a doctor this time) and end up across town. Well we have a pretty good time and deicde to go back to the hotel and get changed and go to dinner Now the main strip in Myrtle beach is a divided highway with three lanes going one way and 3 lanes going the other way. Well we were in the far right lane ( also known as the slow lane) so we could just kinda cruise and sight see well there was alot of little roads to the right of us you could turn off into to go down side streets . We were enjoying cruising and talking when all of a sudden this Park Ave car goes from the far left lane ( fast lane ) and turns all the way across in fron of us to turn down a side road and we hit and his car slides us down the curb Well we stop and make sure everybody is ok and lucky ended up in a diner’s parking lot so we were outta of the way of other traffic and we get out and the 1st thing this guy says was did you not see my blinker! My husband trying to keep his cool was liek you turned acorss two lanes to turn down a side road! and then another car pulls in and my husband and I are liek great he has a friend with him and he’s going to say it was our fault too but it turned out to be a ex police officer who said he saw the whole thing and would stay and be our witness and then we looked at the car…. the front bumper was gone , the headlight gone and ran over by other traffic and the two tires that had been pushed up against the curb were blown , one completley gone the other leaking air badly and the rims turned inside out. So while we waited on the police to get there this guy who just hit us won’t shut up! Keeps saying I am going to be late for my “T time” I always T off at 10am sharp and I going to miss it because you didn’t see my blinker well suprisely enough my husband was keeping his cool but I was very tempted to slug the guy I mean Honeymoons are non-stressful adn this guy is just being a jerk making a bad thing worse and the cops get there and talk to us 1st and then talk to witness meanwhile my husband with the very sore back Is trying to put a donut on the tire of the worse of the two while this guy is still complaing about his golf as well as standing there saying well maybe he won’t give you too high of a ticket. Well after what seemed forever the officer hands the guy a ticket and the guy stands there and fussing about it but pulls off with little damage to a car that wasn’t even his was his friend’s and then the officer hands my husband one and we look at it and he says did you know your licence had been susupended and my heart fell Im thinking great we are 5 hours from home on our honeymoon with a messed up not sure even driveble car and my husband is fixing to go to jail. But the officer was like it says suspended due to failure to appear on a speeding ticket ( which he had paid 4 days after he gotten) and at this point I am starting to feel lightheaded due to hypervenlation. So they make me sit down and he is like ” Well I can take you in for this but seeing as you are on your honeymoon and you have just been a viticm of a wreck I’ am going to give you this ticket but if you come back on the court date with proof the ticket was paid the ticket will be dropped” So he says bye good luck and we set out to find a way to fix the car well enough to be able to drive home. So my hunny being such a smart cookie goes and buys clear car duct tape at Autozone and make shifts our bumper and whats left of our headlight together but then….the rims they are so warpped that they are eating into whats left of our tire and the donut meanwhile we are havign to stop every few miles to put air back in the tire. So we grab a phone book and start searching for Junk yards in the area which we don’t know ( my car was old enough that was the only place we had hopes of find rims that would fit) So after many many hours and more phones calls then we could count we find one that has the rims and they will put it on for us ( AWESOME) but…then we find out its 1 hour away so with lots or praying and holding our breaths we set out on our hour trip to get new rims well because of the stopping to fill the tire up the 1hours turned into about 2 and then we were praying we would make it there before they closed. Well we did and got the rims and headed back to hotel where we vowed to stay until we left and we did ! So needless to say we just celebrated our 1st Anniversay and someone asked if we were going to go back to the place we spent our honeymoon and we both said real loud real fast NO! NO! never neither of us care to go back there because of the memories but someday it will be a good story to tell our grandkids how we survived our 1st days as husband and wife in a true horror honeymoon story!
This was truly a vacation that we had anticipated all year – my husband had spent a month in Emory Hospital nine months before, and we definitely needed some rest and relaxation! So, along with another family of good friends, off to Daytona Beach we headed – my husband, myself, our two daughters, and two of their friends – for a week of sun and fun! Well, from the day we arrived, one aspect of the sun and fun was definitely missing – the sun! Every day dawned cloudy, with just a few peeks of sun here and there – and by 2 p.m., the downpours started daily! On Friday morning, we awoke to some very bright yellow substance streaming through the bedroom curtains – sure enough, when I looked outside, the sun was shining brightly and the beach was already packed! We couldn’t get our bathing suits on and get out the door fast enough!
We had spent a couple of hours soaking in the sun and playing in the surf – I was dozing in my beach chair, and my husband and friend were playing Frisbee. The next sound I heard was a very loud “whomp”, and when I looked up, found my husband laying on the beach on his right arm – as he had gone up to catch the Frisbee, a toddler riding a small three-wheeled beach bicycle had literally driven right under his feet, taking them right out from underneath him! He jumped up, with blood streaming from both knees, holding his elbow – and took off running, bleeding, into the ocean – literal shark bait! He had just stopped his Coumadin treatment, so he was bleeding quite profusely – so off we headed to the condo to get cleaned up. We hadn’t made it across the beach before he decided that we had better take a trip to the emergency room – his arm was really throbbing, and he thought it might be broken! I yelled over to my crew to tell them what was going on, and they all came running across the beach – we had made it up the steps to poolside by that time, and waited on them at the top. After we had explained that we were going to the hospital, and for them to stay and enjoy the day, we headed up to the room to get the car keys – only to hear an extremely loud clanking and banging noise – and when I turned around, saw my youngest daughter laying on the floor by the gate, looking like she was having convulsions – she had passed out! A friend picked her up, and we ran into the inside bar area, dripping wet, and lay her down on the couch – I ran to the front desk to ask them to call 911, which some nice person had already done. By the time I got back, the paramedics were coming in – by daughter was already coming to, but they ran straight over to her – a beautiful young teenager in a bikini – completely bypassing my tall, slender, balding husband, who was still bleeding profusely all over the beautiful carpet, holding his arm pitifully, and turning a bright green color! As I explained to the paramedics what had happened, I heard my oldest daughter’s boyfriend saying “mama, she’s going down” – and I turned around to see her hitting her head on the table as she passed out!! There were only two paramedics, and three of my sick family – they didn’t seem to know who to turn to first! The condo employees were running around trying to help also, getting wet rags for everyone and asking if we needed anything to drink! (I figured the condo manager was trying to decide how he was going to get the blood out of the carpet!) I asked the paramedics if we could put them all in the ambulance, and they told me that they would have to call 2 more ambulances – only one patient per vehicle! But, we have some VERY good friends – they had just purchased a brand new Excursion, with leather seats – into which we proceeded to climb to go to the hospital, bleeding, and covered in suntan oil! I’m sure glad that oil is good for the leather! Off we went to the emergency room, dressed only in our bathing suits, to find ourselves waiting in the small waiting area – my youngest daughter, who was feeling much better by this time, said “well, we sure look like a bunch of hicks sitting here barefoot in our bathing suits!”
After a three hour wait (like I said, we have some really great friends!), the consensus was that my two daughters had passed out from the hot sun and dehydration, my husband’s bleeding had clotted on it’s own, and that he had broken his arm!! He got a bright pink cast, and off we headed back to the beach – what a trooper he is! But the sun? Gone, hidden behind some really high haze, just waiting on the next rain shower! And those friends? Well, they haven’t gone back to the beach with us since then!
My wife High school class was meeting in Miami, FL so we decide to spend several days there. Once I got there I felt slightly sick and told her to go on her own while I rested. I knew that I was going to fell better to accompany her for the meeting (It was not my class but I was friend of several of them.
So I decided to just rest. Of course I was in my underwear and too lazy to get dressed so instead of going out for lunch I order room service. The food arrived. It was very good and I felt better so I decided to put the tray out to be picked up. I opened the door, and put the tray on the floor in front of my door, and at that moment the door slammed behind me. At that moment, I realize two things. The keys were in my pants. The pants were inside the room.
I walked until I got to the elevator where they keep a phone to contact the front desk, and explained my dilemma. So far no one had seen me so it was okay. Right when I hanged the phone the elevator doors opened and there was this young girl who looked at me and to my shame she simply smiled as if she was looking at something funny. I would have preferred if she was angry or offended but how do I respond to her laughing?
Eventually room service arrived. The door was opened and I was back in my room. Later I made the mistake of telling my wife. She of course laughed, which I expected. What I didn’t expect was that she decided to email all our friends about my problem. Then she added that we were escorted out of the state of Florida by the police (not true). Event today two years after she still tell the story anytime that she can. And all because that door slammed too fast behind me.
Spring Break 2007. My family and I were on a short get-a-way to Helen, Ga and my kids wanted to swim, so we hunted a hotel that had a indoor pool because it was kinda chilly. We wound-up at the Super 8, checked in for a 2 night stay, paid cash(upfront), went to our room and changed to go to the pool. We had a great time in the pool and went back to our room to shower and get ready for bed. Thats when the trouble started….(I am the practical joker in the family and I am always trying to scare everyone.)So my kids got out of the shower and the floor in the bathroom was wet, I had my pj’s on and I had to use the bathroom, so I grabbed a towel, wiped up the floor and tossed it in front of the sink in the other room. Well, when I tossed it, I noticed that there was something brown that looked like a shoe string in it. Being funny, I screamed SNAKE. My husband and kids jumped on top of the beds sreaming and yelling “Get it, Get it” I’m laughing at them because they were so scared. I bent over the towel to actually see what was in it and dang if it wasn’t a snake. It looks up at me and hisses and a fork-it tounge come out and shakes at me! Then I really start screaming snake, snake! I WET MYSELF!(I do not like snakes at all)and they knew that I was for real this time. My husand, not coming to my rescue, yells at me to get the garbage can and put it over it to trap it. I say a few bad words at him and try to get him to understand that “he” is “the man” and he should be the one to trap the snake. My kids were screaming, My oldest daughter was yelling she wanted to take a picture of it and all I was thinking was this snake is between me and the door, and if the flash goes off will it scare the snake more and it come after me like the deer did in “Are we there yet”. Well,”I” trap the snake in the garbage can, with my husband still standing on the bed and my kids run to get the front desk attendant. The lady come in and takes the snake, kills it and returns to informs us that it was a baby copperhead. She asks us if we wanted to change rooms, my husband tells her that it was late(by this time it was 1:00am)and he did not want to move everything so “he” was ok. SHe leaves our room. I explain to him(in a nice, sweet, calm voice)that if there is a baby cooperhead, there is a BIG MAMA Copperhead somewhere near and me and the kids would not be staying in that room, we would be sleeping in the truck! He then decides that we should change rooms. The lady at the front desk changes our room to a room on the upper floor, kinda laughing about our situation. We get to the other room and we try to settle-in, it is now about 3:00am. We try to watch happy cartoons to forget about the snake. That works for my husband and kids, they fall asleep(for a little while)I keep watching cartoons and a dang GEICO commerical comes on, that stupid lizards tail looks like a snake wiggling around. Then everything starts looking like little snakes. Even on Sponge Bob-theres a little eel that looks like a snake. I start feeling like something is crawling on me, I can’t sleep so I go downstrairs and wait for them to wake-up. They come down around 8:00am and say that they can’t rest either. We speak to the new lady at the counter and explain that we would not be staying the 2nd night and she stated that the other lady told her what had happened and that she was sorry. Well, I was really expecting to be refunded(at least)for the 2nd night that we had pre-paid for and she said that she couldn’t do that and that we needed to speak to the manager that was out of town and he would get with us sometime next week. I kept calling and calling for a few weeks only to finally receive a letter from the hotel that stated that they were sorry for our “unwanted, un-invited guest” in our room,(never mentioned SNAKE) and offered us a free night stay. We NEVER took them up on the offer!
My girlfriend (at the time) Elizabeth and I were in Paris for 3 days and then were taking the train to the South of France for the remainder of our week’s vacation. We wanted to go to the flea market located in the Northern outskirts of Paris and had taken the subway to the correct station. We started up the seemingly mile long escalator out of the subway up tp the street. I was in front and Elizabeth was next to and behind me when at the top, a man dropped his sunglasses onto the moving steps at the top and blocked the exit while he (seemingly) tried to pick them up for a while. I finally pushed him somewhat out of the way and we walked past. Elizabeth, being the smart woman she was, realized that her pocketbook felt light, and upon looking realized that her wallet and camera were gone. She exclaimed loudly, which made me realize “they” had gotten my wallet as well…..Very professional, quiet and quick. The strange part of the story is that when we got out onto the street, Elizabeth points to a guy walking about 6 feet away from us, and shouts “That’s him!!! That’s the guy who got our stuff!!”
Now I am not the bravest guy in the world, but I went up to him quickly and said “monsieur” while I put my hand on his shoulder to stop him—when he turned to me I could see my wallet under his arm and I grabbed it before he started to run off. Elizabeth took off after him down the street screaming bloody murder, while I was following her screaming that the guy might have a knife or anything and for her to stop! She finally did stop and was mad at me for not letting her continue on to beat the guy bloody and get her wallet, which we still did not have, and never did retrieve. Never made it to the flea market either—too bummed.
It was summer after the ending of the local neighborhood baseball season, the team accompanied with the families decided to take a trip down to the Georgia and South Caroline coasts visiting Tybee Island and Hilton Head Island. Tybee Island we had fun even after discovering that the shark fins in the water were actually, dolphin fins. We finally, ventured over to Hilton Head the beach was very crowded this particular day, and we followed all the beach rules setting as close to the life guard as possible. I kept a close watch on my then eight year old son who was playing beside me with a hermit-crab that I was totally afraid of, he leaves the hermit-crab next to me and ventures off to play in a water hole with some toddlers, after thinking he will be playing there for a minute I turned my attentions to the hermit-crab and then I discovered my son was nowhere in sight. I asked the group, those of who had skipped the temptations of entering the water if they had seen Cameron, all answered no…I approached the team in the waters who had slowly drifted from our direct view but still very near the lifeguard, all indicated they had not seen my son. I turned to walk just about five feet to the life-guard who was now moving back his chair due to the slow rise of the tide…I informed him that my eight year old son was missing and provided him with a brief description, dark curly hair, missing his two front teeth, grey and black swimming shorts and answers to Cameron.
Fear engulfed me from every angle I felt completely helpless knowing that I could not swim and would not be able to assist the volunteers who had now began to search the waters for him, as I fought back tears, fears, and visions of seen him floating face down in the water.
I ran as fast as I could up and down the beach like a deranged woman, Cameron, Cameron…No God…I would not leave this beach without him I thought…
My sister holding me as a sobbed hopelessly, strangers all standing holding me, the word spread like wildfire that a child was missing on the beach…each working together to help find my son…No word 15 minutes had passed it seemed like hours…
As the first lifeguard encouraged me to stay near him as he too awaited to hear of any sightings of Cameron. Finally, finally, Cameron was found safe and unharmed…life-guards found him frantically running along the north end of the beach…Later we learned that when Cameron left the water hole playing with the toddlers he walked to the beach to tell the other players about the hermit-crab but, says that they were too far out in the water and decided not to enter because he does not like the saltiness of the water, when he turned to come to where we were gathered he used a Kite as a maker to locate us on the beach, the kite we were playing with earlier, but he says that it was someone else’s kite and he started running hoping to find me..
When we left Hilton Head to return to our rented van someone had backed into the back of this brand new van denting it severely…I was to so ready to return home some much so I received a $250 speeding ticket..
At one point we lived in Baton Rouge and my wife was from Houston. We decided we would take our two small girls on a camping trip to Galveston Beach. So we loaded up the car and off we went envisioning a beachside camp site with the children playing at the beach while mom and dad relaxed in the warm July sunshine! Upon arrival, the first thing I noticed was a sign at our camp site that said “Beware of Snakes”. Should have been a clue. But no, we needed good ‘ol family fun! As the day progressed, it became darker and darker. By 5PM it was raining, storming and the wind was blowing so hard we were sure the tent was going to be blown away. Later we found that a tornado was in the area! The wind ripped a hole in the tent and the rain was coming through. Then the cooler over turned and soaked the floor and spilled all the food out on the floor shorting out the radio and the battery powered light. We didn’t feel safe leaving and we were stuck in the rainy wet tent with no edible food, no light and two scared kids. The rain was so bad we couldn’t get outside to light a fire. Of course during all of this, the two little ones had to go to the bathroom. So we wait until we felt the rain let up a tad bit and trudged through the wind and rain to the bathrooms and then back again. Oh and the snakes showed up on the walk path….
Now we are all freaked out by the snakes that might come in the tent, the children are scared and crying because its dark – and the snakes are out there, wind, rain, lightening and loud thunder going on everywhere – and its still only about 6PM! Finally We really never were able to sleep, but the rain, the wind and the fear of the snakes never stopped. When morning came, we packed what we could and left. We went into Houston to a Hotel looking exactly like you would imagine: wet, tired, terrible. My children were dragging and when we finally made it back home to Baton Rouge, we took them to the Doctor. One had strept throat and the other had Scarlet Fever! Honest to goodness, that was the last camping trip we have ever taken.
My only vacation horror story isn’t that bad. In 1995 we were in Seaside, FL for my birthday. Hurricane Opal came up and we had to evacuate. It took us 17 hours to get home (we lived in Columbus, GA then). That trip should take about 4 hours. It was a horrible day. To make it worse, about 30 minutes after we got home, Opal (which had been following us) came through and knocked out the power. We were without power for about 2 days. That’s the worst story I’ve got.
My worst vacation was when I had a staycation and decided to open the AJC and I started ready how abunch or babies were complaining about getting mugged in Paris and how his girlfriend was more of a man the he was. Way to go bud, go ahead and save your wallet instead of getting your girlfiends stuff. Way to represent the male population. You should be banished to france. I guess we can all figure out why she is not his girlfriend anylonger. Probably got with the guy who stole her stuff that night.
My husband and I rented one of those beautiful “rustic,” furnished cabins in the Smoky Mountains. It seemed the perfect spot for a romantic night. The cabin had a loft bedroom upstairs, and the master bedroom had a hot tub in the bathroom. After we got settled, we decided to get in the hot tub. We had never used one before, so I decided we needed bubbles. I ran the water, then squeezed in about three big squeezes of dish liquid. Then I turned on the jets, and the bubbles began. Before it was over, it looked like an “I Love Lucy” episode with mountains of bubbles pouring over the sides of the tub onto the floor. We finally found a bucket and scooped up suds and threw them in the shower stall and washed them down the drain (along with all thoughts of romance.) When we did go to bed that night and things got really quiet, we began to hear a gnawing on the wall by the bed. Loud gnawing. At that point my husband nervously confessed, “I did see a rat trap behind the cabin.” So we moved to the loft bedroom. Within 15 minutes, we began to hear the gnawing in the wall again – whatever it was, was in the wall and followed us upstairs! We were very glad to see morning and didn’t stay a second night at the “romantic cabin.”
Here’s another one…we lived in Tokyo on business for three years. Upon our return we flew from Tokyo to Honolulu. My wife was 9 months pregnant, so we stayed in Hawaii for a few days so she could get her rest. All was good until we went to leave Hawaii and return home. When we got to the airport, we were notified that there had been a change in the aircraft. We had first class seating for comfort of my wife and I asked specifically if we still had first class seats and was told that we did. Satisfied with the answer, I left to return the rental. Upon boarding the plane, we quickly found out that we were going to be seated in coach. When I asked what was going on they told us that there were not enough first class seats in this airplane so what they did was put those left over in coach with no one in between them, and we would get the same first class service. Now, this would have normally been “OK”…things happen. But I have a wife who was 9 months pregnant and I’ll try to be kind – she was 9 months big…we asked for some releif and were told no. So we sit in the coach seats. She can’t pick her feet up, the seat doesn’t recline and when they brought dinner, she could not even get the laptop tray down to support the plate. Now the crying starts….the flight attendant is zero help. She is crying like nuts and my two girls come over to see what is wrong…while this is happening, I notice that my children’s feet are BLUE…I panic and think they have lost oxygen or something, call the attendent, show her the feet and this is what she says..I swear I am not making this up “Oh, the chemical in the toilet overflowed and they must have stepped in it!”…What? Did I just her her say Chemical, Toilet, Stepped in? So I make her call someone to see if there are any issues that we should be aware of because this stuff is not coming off…my kids are now panicing, my wife is crying, we haven’t been able to eat, the movie screen is broken, the toilet is over flowed and its an hour into a 7 hour flight….one service that I found that did work, was the first class beverage service!
I was swimming in the ocean off the coast of Florida on my Honeymoon. I sand shark ripped my nuts off and my new wife cheated on me with the bartender in our hotel.
A friend and I were going to Europe. He booked the travel with a travel agency. The tickets would be waiting for us at each airport. We went to the Atl. airport and got the flight to NYC. The tickets were there to Brussels and we left. I had to come back before him. I went to the Paris Airport to the Air France counter to pick up my ticket for the flight to Brussels and on to the US. The lady behind the counter was most courteous and typed in my name. No response from the computer.. “Try spelling it$@**@^&#>” No response from the computer. “Let me see the screen.” She turned the screen to me and, sure enough, my name wasn’t on the flight and nothing vaguely resembling my name was on there either. I would have bought a ticket to Brussels but the flight was full. The lady said if I had known earlier that I would have been able to take a train to Brussels but now it was too late and, just in case there wasn’t a ticket waiting in Brussels, it would be better to be stuck in Paris.
I noticed several people looking at me strangely. It winds up that they were also waiting for tickets on that flight. NONE of us had tickets. I was so upset, being stranded in a foreign country, that I went into the rest room and threw up. One of the Air France Captains was in the rest room and took me under his wing, so to speak and took me back out to the counter.
I was able to book a flight back to NYC on Air France. The BEST flight I’ve ever had! And then on to Atlanta.
When I got home (several hours late) there was a mesasge on my answering machine from my friend still in Europe asking if I got home OK. It winds up that the travel agency had gone out of business while we were in Europe.
I was able to warn him and he was able to make arrangements ahead of time for his own departure.
When I was twelve and my brother was eleven, my family didn’t have a lot of money to spare. We didn’t often do family vacations that weren’t tied to visiting relatives (and I only recall us doing that a couple of times). So, my parents decided that we would all tag along to my dad’s national mathematical convention in Denver. Dad was presenting a paper, and the rest of us would sight-see, hang out at the hotel, and do whatever didn’t cost an arm and a leg. We would drive to Denver from Mississippi in our non-spacious and non-speedy AMC Hornet.
For some reason of which I am still unaware, the convention was scheduled in a winter month (I can’t remember exactly–it was either November or January). What I do remember exactly, was that the minute our family drove into Denver, there was a huge blizzard. We got to our hotel, but that was it. I am thinking that our family didn’t stay at the convention hotel either, but had probably selected a lower-price hotel to save money–I think this because at one point our hotel restaurant ran out of food because trucks couldn’t get to them through the snow.
In the meantime, the mathematicians’ convention went on with the show, and not being able to sight-see meant that my brother and I had to either amuse ourselves in our hotel room, or watch the presentations of mathematicians from around the nation. I had no idea what they were talking about, and as this was around 1980-1981, there was no cool PowerPoint or overhead computing technology. A few special effects would have gone a long way.
Because of the weather, my brother and dad caught colds. I remember our last night involved my mom and I eating a spaghetti dinner at a nearby Denny’s (spaghetti was all they had left, but at least they had food).
Luckily, the day after the conference the roads were cleared enough to allow us to pack into the Hornet and head back to Mississippi. If I recall correctly, I think we made it all the way back with only stops for gas and fast food.
we went on a vacation 4 day weekend at jekyl island resort {a clarion resort }on the north east side of jekyl stayin in a condo {4th of july weekend . we wernt told that u had to cross a burm of 3 foot arond bolder 12 ft tall and 20 ft wide jus to get out on to beach ,once we got out there on beach the condo was leaking large amounts of raw sewage out on beach ! when we tryed to get our money back jus to go to a nicer place away from the stinch the manager refused stating we shoulda asked about conditions before staying ,thanks clarion resort your the greatest ~
I agree with Ms. Kolassa, why would the AJC want to run a contest based on who can post the winning complaint about vacation? We hear enough negative news why not post about the best or funniest experience that may inspire others? I am sure most have at some time experienced inconveniences and dissapointments during their vacation; since when does minor grievances make AJC worthy press or merit a prize? I also imagine anyone that has survived a natural disaster or terrorist attack while on vacation would have stories to top anything I or most could ever imagine complaining about. This blog is like complaining about spilling your champagne; vacation is a privilege not a necessity. Those of us fortunate enough to go on vacation, may want to celebrate and appreciate them for whatever they are- late planes, lost luggage, snakes, eating at Denny’s, and rooms with less than ideal ocean views included.
Several weeks ago, my wife and I drove to Florida for our annual vacation at our condo in Daytona, Florida – the vacation that will forever be known in our family lore as “The Vacation from Hell!” This was a vacation that was months in the planning as we also invited my wife’s brother and his wife and our one year old nephew, along with my wife’s parents. Schedules had to be arranged and re-arranged, my wife postponed a much needed surgical procedure, and I took my final exams a week early all in an attempt achieve the seemingly impossible. Finally we were able to assemble all the pieces of the puzzle including cashing in a week of time we had banked so that we could have two condos on the same floor to accommodate the extended clan. My wife, her mother, and I innocently arrived in Daytona Friday night to get everything ready for the arrival of the rest of the crew. Saturday morning dawned and we made the trip to the airport to meet the flight from Nashville which delivered my in-laws right on schedule. The next morning, in a masterpiece of coordination and flurry of cell phone calls, my wife’s father surprised the whole family by driving in from just north of Savannah to catch up with us while we were exploring the local flea market (we had all been led to believe he was not going to be able to make the trip). Our triumph complete, we all saddled up and drove back to the condo with birds chirping our names and a double rainbow hovering over our destination. But God has a way of stepping in just when we are at the peak of our satisfaction with ourselves and our mastery of our own destinies. At approximately 6:00 pm, it began to rain. Now by rain, I don’t mean that it began to sprinkle and then steadily grew into the type of tropical shower we have all come to expect while visiting the beach in southern locations. No fellow travelers, I mean a full on monsoon! The kind of rain that prompts people living in Bangladesh to exclaim “Oh those poor people!” and sends their children scurrying into the streets to collect rupies for humanitarian relief. Some giant unseen hand had unzipped the heavens and released a torrential downpour that made it impossible to clearly make out the windshield wipers scraping impotently back and forth across the glass mere inches in front of our eyes. I began to feel a kinship with U-boat commanders who stand upon the bridge with trepidation as the boat submerges and the waves wash over the periscope as they descend into the briny depths. By the time we reached the condo, we looked back at the beginning of the storm with the eyes of grizzled veterans looking back on a ferocious battle, not knowing that war is only just beginning. By 9:00 pm, the wind had risen to 40 miles per hour and threatened to decapitate every palm tree in central Florida – not to mention the flying debris that equally threatened to decapitate every living soul that dared to venture out into the streets. These were not mere gusts of wind. This was a living vortex of ceaseless energy that sent NASA physicists and meteorologists scrambling to modify their now obsolete models of the effects of global warming. By 4:00 am, the satellite images on the weather channel made it clear that our vacation was about to become a week long ordeal. The satellite images that completely replaced regularly scheduled programming on every local channel revealed what could only be described as a stationary hurricane. A large system that covered virtually all of central Florida from coast-to-coast, rotated lazily in a counter-clockwise direction but moved neither north or south, east or west. It appeared so serene from space but, on the ground, the unceasing winds had begun to take their toll. Power lines began to fail and large areas began to lose electricity. Far worse in many areas, the water table had begun to rise into alarmingly positive numbers. Canoes and jet skis began to replace cars on many of the local roads. By Tuesday morning, the most timid residents of our building decided to cut their losses and head for higher ground. We were however, implacably committed to endure the record setting rainfall and subsequent flooding. Flight schedules and the complete impossibility of re-scheduling this fun old-fashioned family vacation forced us to make the best of a bad situation. Unfortunately, the best we could do was to sit and stare out the large plate glass windows as the flood waters continued to rise all around us. By Wednesday afternoon, I could not get the words of Forest Gump out of my head, “One day it started raining, and it didn’t quit for four months. We been through every kind of rain there is. Little bitty stingin’ rain… and big ol’ fat rain. Rain that flew in sideways. And sometimes rain even seemed to come straight up from underneath.” Four months or four endless days? I had lost track of time. Our sole source of entertainment was continuous replays of Baby Einstein and Wiggles videos run back-to-back-to-back in an attempt to keep our one year old distracted from the fact that he was trapped in a two bedroom condo with six adults who, although they all adored him, were not very pleased with the way their hard earned time off was being spent. At the end of the week we had survived 29.5 inches of rainfall (a new record for the area), power outages, severe wind damage, and a visit from the governor of Florida who showed up as the storm dissipated to declare the site a disaster area and present us all with much appreciated aid from the good citizens and children of Bangladesh. On the final morning of the “Vacation from Hell!”, we drove down International Drive on our way back to Interstate 95 for our northward journey home. Behind us the sun rose in the east in spectacular glory, just in time to provide the final slap in the face from a God who respects no human plans for a perfect vacation. We are all now back in our daily routines, my wife is about to undergo her surgery, and the only thing we have to show to our friends at home is the newspaper we picked up on our way out of Daytona. The headline is a single word in a large, bold font that perfectly describes the entire week – DISASTER!
Well we are about to leave from Michigan to California with a group of ladies 6. One of the ladies in the group decides to wave to everyone on the way out of town before we are scheduled to catch the plane an two hours away. We finally round her up and head to the airport. Due to our friends good-byes we are rushing up to our gate only to be turned away and told to catch the next plane at aprox 6 am. We bunk down with our luggage overnight in a uncomfortable airport seating with rollers in our hair. In the AM we catch I flight cause how can you miss it when you have spent the night at the airport? Anyway We board and head land in San Diego where take the metro to retrive our van rental, a lot of ladies and luggage. When we get to the rental car desk we pick out our vehicle and the mature lady of the group whips out her credit card only to have it rejected be cause it had just expired a day before our flight. We are stranded in San Diego so I whip out my Debit card which the ticket agent says must have a balance of 250.00 on it in order to secure the vehicle. I was expecting the direct deposit so I assure the ticket agent. We take the van and load all of our luggage. As we head to Escondido 2 hours from San Diego all traffic is backed up almost to a stand still. We turn on the local news, it is blazing hot and we are exhausted. We find out the reason. A woman is on the freeway in a (stand-Off) with police trying to take her on life! So we wait on the hot freeway till police clear to move and traffic starts moving. We arrive in Escondido a bit late and get to the church retreat campground. We take the van the next day in order to make sure the money is secure on our card. After aproximately the third day and attempt to get a local checking cash place to put money in the account. The Rental car place says our van is now considered stolen and we must return it immediately. The money never reached my account so we have to somehow wire the money into that account. After our week long fiasco back to the airport we return the van and I presume pay for the rental van. We board our plane back to michigan and land take the 2 hr trip home and our car starts wobbling on the side! We stop and realize we have a flat and cars are whipping by we get out to have it changed by an accompanied friend. We since wondered if we were suppose to go on that crazy trip!
About half of these stories are just plain bad luck but the other half seem to involve at least some lack of planning and bad decisions.
And people need to remember that “super cheap”, “off the beaten path”, and “adventurous” type vacations can actually put your life in danger when you’re in some foreign countries. It all sounds fun and daring until something goes wrong.
These are funny stories. Once you live through the vacation from hell, it becomes funny (most of them anyway – not when anything tragic happens of course). But the snakes, the rain, the car in pieces, etc. Funny stuff!
AJC,I love the blogs about your worst vacations.It has been a long time since I’ve enjoyed reading this much. This was truely a great idea. Keep up the good work .
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December 2008 I went on the Carnival Glory from Port Canaveral, Florida. My drama began before I got to Florida. Plans were to leave at 5am to catch a 7:30am flight to Florida. Packed my clothes and took a cab at 4am to my girlfriends house to get transportation to airport. Put my luggage in the trunk and got into cab for ride to friends house. Arrived, took my bag out of trunk and went upstairs. Me and my girlfriends were talking about what a great time we would have. I went to get lipstick out of my pocketbook and couldn’t find my pocketbook nowhere. I didn’t panic and told my friends that it could be only one of two places. One, at home; two, in the cab. So I remained calm and called the cab company. They said the driver didn’t see my pocketbook in the cab, Still calm I said, “we’ll it must be home and when Carlos comes to pick us up we can go back to get my pocketbook. About ten minutes later I get a call from a young lady that got in the cab after me saying that she had my pocketbook. Good news, but she had been out partying and was intoxicated. I had to get my purse because all my id was in it. I had to have it to board the plane and boat. Panic set in, “oh my God, what if she goes to sleep”. I tried calling her back several times to no avail to find out where she lived. About ten minutes before Carlos was to arrive, I got her on the phone, got directions to her house and retrieved my pocketbook. Remember, always have contact info in your wallet and there are some good people in this world. She didn’t have to call me. Thank God she did, I had a great vacation.
We have traveled to myrtle beach every summer for the past 5 or 6 years. We found a large resort with something for everyone onsite. It was always clean with friendly staff so we never booked anywhere else when we were going to S.C. That changed last year as we booked later than normal and could not get a room at the usual place. They offered us a room next door at the company’s sister property. We assumed it would be ok and booked it. We also decided that we would drive my husbands new car since gas was more expensive instead of the s.u.v that we normally travel in. We arrive only to find out that our room is not ready,thay told us to maybe go to the water park and wait. We opted to go back into town. We get a call 3 hours later saying our room is ready. We open the door to a dirty room with no other options in town as it was nearing the July 4th holiday. Back to town to purchase cleaning supplies as we got no assistance from the staff. We finally get back to the room and turn on the air conditioning to find it is loud enough to be heard outside the room and vibrated the floor around it. Maintainence would check it as soon as possible(next afternoon) We decided to turn in for the night and make the best of it since tomorrow would be another day. 3a.m and the fire alarn goes off,we are on the 10th floor and scurry downstairs to wait with the other guests only to have it start pouring rain as soon as we stepped outside. 2 hours in the rain to find out it was someone”playing with the alarm on the 3rd floor. We went to the water park first thing after breakfast,stayed inside for 15 minutes only to be told it was closing due to an “accident in the lazy river”,no problem,we will go to the beach. The beach consisted of alternating days of sharks and stingrays so the life guards would not let anyone in the water,understandably so. We were so happy to be returning home after a week of things like this. We are driving thu Columbia at 12 noon discussing lunch options and how at least we did not have to spend so much on gas thanks to the new car. AT that very moment,we drive under an overpass and a huge block of wood is hurled from th top. We essentially drove right into it shattering the windshield in a million pieces and spraying glass all over me and my son who was seated behing me.My sunglasses saved my eyes.We pulled off onto the next exit to call police and insurance agents as were in very heavy traffic. i walked into the convenience store to ask if there was a carwash or someplace with a vacum nearby so we could clean out the shattered glass. She asks is I need an ambulance since I am bleeding,I told her no and explained what had just happened. She proceeds to tell me that we are driving a nice car in a bad neighborhood and we should leave and drive up one more exit for assistance. I walk back out and see a van full of men staring at my husband while he is talking on his cell and look in th other direction to see 2 pit bull dogs chained to a fireworks stand. By then,my husband has gotten instructions to drive to a safe light auto glass store and get the windshield replaced. The gps still worked so we started driving the 8 miles to the store when it starts raining so hard it was caving what was left of the windshield in. The folks at the safe light place were great and it gave us several hours to pick glass out of my arms,legs and feet. We were finally able to start back on our way after a 500 dollar deductible. So much for our gas savings! We did not go to South Carolina this year,went to Florida instead!
Most of these stories must be from people who don’t know how to plan for a vacation! How can it take months of planning for a trip to Daytona? Paris, maybe but Daytona! GMAB! I don’t get it! Oh, and always check the weather especially if you are going to travel during hurricane season!
The worst trip I ever took was my honeymoon! We went to Mexico, where my wife promptly ate or drank something that gave her da runs for the entire week. Both times I have touched her in the 23 years since I can’t help but think of that trip.
The year was 1989. Our son was 15 years old. We were making a trip “out West” and Houston, TX was one of our planned stops. The NY Mets would be in town playing the Astros and a then untroubled Darryl Strawberry was our son’s favorite player. Because we all were baseball fans, we thought it would be fun to visit another MLB stadium. Little did we know …
Tired from driving all day and not knowing our way around the area, we asked about the public transportation system when we checked into the hotel just after dusk and were told the bus stop was conveniently located right across the street. We hurriedly took the suitcases to our room and went to the bus stop where we waited for an hour, only to be informed by the bus driver that the bus stop to the Astrodome was back across the street down a few blocks. What he didn’t tell us was that it would take over an hour to get there due to that particular route which took us right downtown Houston and stopped at every other corner.
Finally we arrived and stood in line for tickets. It was a sell-out with standing room only available. Our son was taking his turn carrying the very large and heavy video camera. My husband and I made it through the turnstile only to hear our son calling out behind us that they wouldn’t let him in with the camera. A security guard had been summoned to explain the situation and suggested we return to our car to leave the camera there. Not an option for us bus riders. After a good bit of “discussion” (my husband said the guard must have gotten tired of hearing me), our son was allowed through and we were lead to the security office. I continued to plea our case and the guard finally relented, telling us to go but warned us to keep the camera in the bag at all times.
The game was already in progress, the Mets were in the outfield but Darryl was nowhere to be seen. Another fan told us that it had been announced earlier that Darryl would not be playing due to a hurt finger. Swell…
Deciding to leave early to beat the crowd, and because we were tired of standing, we left after the 7th inning stretch. We had only seen three innings of play, hardly worth the effort and expense it had taken to get us to this point.
Expecting to see a line of buses waiting in the parking lot, we were directed instead to a bus stop a mile down the road. It was my turn to carry the camera. Arriving at the stop and reading the schedule, we discovered it would be another thirty minute wait. Time to pass the camera bag to my husband.
This particular bus stop, which had no seats or benches, was located beside a large marshy area and the mosquitoes that inhabited it were plentiful, very hungry and definitely Texas sized. The swatting and slapping gave us something to do for the next thirty minutes and the diversion of a passing car from which raw eggs were thrown our way temporarily distracted us from scratching the bites covering us.
Not a moment too soon the bus arrived and we thankfully boarded. The return route was different from the one that got us there and had fewer stops. We were grateful until we were told we were at the end of the line and would have to get off. We were over a mile from the hotel. It was close to midnight. We had no idea what was between us and the hotel but what could we do but start walking. I don’t remember who was carrying the stupid video camera at this point.
In what seemed like forever, we finally spotted the lights of our hotel and quickly picked up the pace, anxious to be the first one to claim the shower. July 3 temperatures in Houston, accompanied by countless number of yolk-covered mosquito bites tend to make a person long for such a thing.
Safely back in our hotel room, everyone showered and began to feel somewhat better. The local news was on TV and the sports segment showed a reporter interviewing none other than Darryl Strawberry as he discussed the injury to his pinkie. My husband was ready to show the TV screen his own injured middle finger but thought better of it as our son was taking it all in.
We weren’t sorry to leave Houston that next morning but what did hurt was seeing in the not-so-distant horizon the larger than life Astrodome. Had we just known how close (as a crow flies) we were to it, we could have easily driven ourselves to the game. At least then we would have had a car to return the video camera to and that poor security guard would have been spared.
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I’d so love to vote on these stories as I read them!!!
I’ll abbreviate my car trip to Canada in a station wagon to the highlights… Take this as a warning people! Big family traveling long distance with kids from 10-16 years old. One parent driving, other staying home working.
OK, here we go. Spitballs out the back window of the station wagon: With huge McD’s cannon straws, back in the day… Many a bird finger and cussing driver later, that got put off… we had a dozen straws hidden for just such a situation. The owls, still kinda bother us today… Folks never found out about that one. A row of baby owls on a branch that let us walk up to them with a machete (found one) and we all figured they’d move, birds always do, right? Nope, took down the whole row (hotel, middle of nowhere, wooded area). Same hotel had a shack of a game-room with quarter machines. Pried it open and played running people over black and white game where the stick figures became crosses. All night long. We just wanted to play that new game, and it was fun. I’ll try to speed this up a bit.. Older kids rolled the wedding gift car. Wrecked some rental dirt bikes after coming across bear cubs up in Canada, needless to say, mama bear came around and high-speed escape led to damage. 3 speed bicycle going down a temp monster hill at a construction site/turned killer dirt track, bent the rim, and some frame. Antique bullets discovered and stripped down for fun gunpowder to burn. I’m thinking I was around 12 at the time.
So, in fact, this was the best vacation in my life. Looking back, though, I can’t help not stopping laughing. We were a rolling wrecking ball, and I’m quite sure there is a different side of this coin.
Still not sure if we’d ever be accepted across the border, but God Bless our mother for not killing us all. And for keeping dad from finding out some thing that would’ve gotten us killed. You have been warned.
Don’t think I’m not watching the complaining ^ there. I’ve had a Georgia judge look me in the face and ask me exactly how old I was. I never forgot that either. Some folks just haven’t been around long enough to find out some things, and this is as good a place as any to learn.
It’s also one of the best places to learn: In the context of the story. True stories. So in all humbleness, STFU, (shut up) and listen to what people have to say. It’s a simple thing about learning how to avoid bad situations on a vacation really. We’re enjoying the growing pains of others, as in Misery loves company.
My sincerest apologies, for the interruption.
Do tell your story. BTW did you know the angle of a 2X4 across the back is the difference between the breaking of the back or the board? AKA, I’d like to relax here and learn some interesting stuff. A lot of It I know, some is new to me. On with the stories, I like them.
Its unfortunate that personal service is no longer par of the job description. BTW – its only 7 hr drive to Orlando from Atlanta. And its an easy drive. Leave 1 day earlier, stay at a motel for the night before the cruise and get to the port early the next morning. The drive back isnt a bad one either.
My husband and I got “buddy passes” on an airline from a relative. We planned a trip to Hawaii, even paying a few hundred dollars down on a nice place to stay there. We flew uneventfully from Atlanta to Dallas on the first leg of the trip. Then the disaster started! Just before boarding the flight to Honolulu a group of about 40 passengers showed up at the gate. Their flight on another airline had been cancelled so they were booked on our flight. Since we were using buddy passes we were bumped from the flight. After spending all day in the airport we made it on a flight to LA, hoping to get on a flight to Honolulu the next day. After spending all the next day at LAX we decided we’d never get there, much less get home on time. We booked a flight back home and went to Callaway Gardens instead. We still have never been to Hawaii! Total $$ for our non-vacation:
$300+ for the buddy passes
$90+ cheap hotel near LAX
$300+ deposit on accommodations in Hawaii we never used
$50+ for calls to the relative to see about available flights (this was in 1999 before we had cellphones)
Ouch!
Here’s another one from my travel disaster files:
Our extended family camps together every year. We have a blast and wouldn’t miss it for anything! There are now 16 of us on this trip. Usually we go to Vogel State Park but one year we went to Unicoi. That particular year there was some kind of tropical system that somehow stalled out right over Unicoi. We set up camp on Thursday. My immediate family tent camps, all six of us in a good-size tent (but not quite big enough!). Friday morning the rain started and it did not stop. Rain rain rain, I think they ended up having like six inches the three days we were there! Everything was wet wet wet. We had three campsites together and had tarps strung over everything! We looked like a camp of gypsies or something! Nothing got dry Even the board games, puzzles and magazines we brought were soggy from the humidity. I walked down to the bathroom and narrowly missed being hit by a huge limb of a tree falling. But perhaps the worst part was the last night, one of my kids threw up in the tent! We got it cleaned up and guess what! Another kid threw up. Repeat! Gross. I ended up sleeping in our van with our wet, smelly dog! We still go camping every year!
I’m laughing out loud at some of these stories. (But writers, keep it simple and short!) I agree with SayWhat — these stories are FUN and won’t affect someone’s decision about whether to go on a trip. Sheesh.
My son was about 10 and he and I, a single mom, drove to Disney World in Orlando. Last day we went to our last park and then we started the drive home that afternoon. I had planned to drive on through to Atlanta but I got so tired. Nothing would help and it was after midnight. With no one to help me drive I decided we might should stay overnight somewhere. We were still in Florida and not in GA yet. We got a room and walked in there and there were roaches or water bugs or whatever they call them all over the place! Bathroom, bedroom…..everywhere! That woke me up really good! I went back to the clerk and got a refund and we started our drive home again and made it all the way to Atlanta with no problems!
When my daughter was six months old we flew from Phoenix to Memphis to spend a week with my dad who was marrying my now step-mother. My sister and her fiance’ were also on the flight. My daughter, being six months old, was starting to get her first teeth. As parents know, sometimes fever and diarea will accompany this. The day we were leaving my daughter’s fever was down and she seemed to be feeling fine. Shortly after takeoff, they served us breakfast. Not sixty seconds later my daughter proceded to projectile vomit all over my future brother in-law and his breakfast. I reach in the diaper bag only to realize that while I had thrown in plenty of diapers, I forgot a change of clothes. I go into the TINY airplane bathroom to clean up my daughter, change her diaper and since I have no clothes I wrapped her in my sisters down coat. (It’s the end of November, by the way. Not too warm!) We get to Dallas to change flights. On the train to our gate I am cradling her in my arms and everyone in saying, “Ahhhh! What a precious baby.” Not seconds later, as I am looking down lovingly at my child, her mouth opens and she smacks me in the face with vomit! At this point my sister and her fiance’ are very frustrated with me because, here again, I didn’t pack any clothes for her in her diaper bag and my sister’s down coat is getting covered in vomit. We board our connecting flight to Memphis and are on the home stretch and all the sudden I hear what sounds like not-so-solid poop coming from my sick child. Needless to say, it came out the top and the sides of her diaper and is now all inside my sisters down coat (the only thing I have to put her in)!!!! I once again head to the TINY plane bathroom to clean up, not only my daughter, but the now-poopy coat. While in the bathroom, I look in the mirror to see that when she projectiled on my face it made the mascara run. I intintively lick my finger to wipe it when I taste something extremely bitter. I then realize that I have diarea on my hands. At this point I begin to ball my eyes out!! Thank goodness my daughter was now feeling much better. As we exit the gate to meet my dad, I hand him his filthy granddaughter wrapped in a stinky down coat that I had cleaned the best I could with what I had. My sister and her fiance’ were now not speaking to me! My dad was married the next day and I stayed home with my teething daughter while everyone went out and celebrated. I probably should have just stayed home!
Back in January of this year my boyfriend and I took a long drive from Atlanta to Las Vegas. We had an amazing time seeing many parts of the country that neither of us had ever seen before. The long drive itself was just as much a part of the trip as the few nights we stayed in Las Vegas. We saw things like giant wind torrents in coming through Oklahoma and SNOW (which is a big deal to Atlanta natives!) coming through Flagstaff, Arizona. Almost the entire trip was just perfect … loads of fun …
UNTIL the VERY LAST NIGHT of the journey. We had stopped in Memphis to catch some sleep before the last leg of our very long journey. We checked into a hotel and started getting ready to settle in for the evening. My boyfriend decided to take one last peek out of the window to check on our car. The car was SIDE WAYS and had been moved several feet. We had been at the hotel less than TEN MINUTES when the car was involved in a hit and run accident in the parking lot!!!
The Memphis police department was as helpful as they could possibly be and exceedingly polite. Kudos to the Memphis police department for their amazing patience!
I won’t bash the hotel we stayed at in Memphis by giving it’s name, but I will warn others to do some research before deciding on a place to stay in Memphis.
Our car was totaled, but we were able to drive it back to Atlanta once we taped stopped and bought some duck tape to keep the door closed and the rain out of the car. This was a great trip up until that last night. If nothing else we have an interesting story to tell : )
My husband retired from the Navy in San Diego, CA, and we decided to take a “family vacation” crossing the country back to our home in Georgia. We were in 2 separate vehicles; my husband was driving our Suburban and pulling our 27ft travel trailer, and I was driving a 37ft “fixer upper” RV which we’d bought from friends. Our travel party consisted of my husband, our sons (13 & 8 at the time) our daughters (12 and 3 at the time) and I. We struck out from San Diego on Memorial Day, 2004. We got as far as the lava fields in the desert near Barstow, CA when the RV began to handle poorly and make odd noises. The kids were all in the back playing games, and OF COURSE, no one had on a seatbelt (lesson learned!). As it began to handle poorly, I screamed for all of them to get buckled and hang on! Thankfully, we did not crash as I feared, but the RV suddenly lost all power and I had to drift over to the side of the road. My husband pulled over on the side of the road just ahead of me w/the Suburban & trailer. We exited the RV, looked underneath, and found that the drive shaft had broken completely IN TWO!!!!! It was 113 degrees in the desert. There were no rest stops near, so we had to abandon the RV in search of civilization. We found a restaurant a few miles up the road and used our cell phone to call a wrecker for the RV. We met him there, and he hauled it to a repair shop (at a cost of about $250). The guys at the repair shop took a look at it and told us it would cost $2,500 to repair, and the part would not arrive for 2 weeks! As we were BURNING UP from the heat and all the kids were cranky, we made an instant decision to sign the RV over to the shop and leave it there forever! We all loaded into the Suburban and proceeded to the nearest K.O.A. for the night. When we arrived there and went into the travel trailer, we were met be the FOULEST odor! In the melee of getting the vehicles off the road when the drive shaft broke on the RV, my husband had run over a small road sign and it had pierced the black water tank in the trailer!!! The floor was splintered right beside the bunks where our boys slept. Of course, no one could repair it that night, nor for the duration of our trip. We had to beat it down as best we could with a mallet, and cover it with duct tape. The trailer’s bathroom & shower were out of service for the duration of the trip, so we had to rely on bathhouses for personal hygeine and other uses until we got home! We finally arrived home 6 days after leaving San Diego…exhausted and completely broke!!! No more “fixer upper” RV’s for us!!!
Been on a lot of vacations, some bad, most of them good. I was always glad to get home and prouder still that I can spell and use good grammar when I do.
After a beautiful fall evening wedding at the end of September in 1995, my new husband and I left in our motor home for an eight day trip along the Gulf Coast. We spent three absolutely gorgeous days at Panama City Beach and then headed west, with our ultimate destination being New Orleans. At the time Hurricane Opal was forming in the Gulf. The nice weather was holding though so we continued on our way stopping in Biloxi to visit the casino. After holding our own with the slot machines and having a wonderful dinner, we walked out the door into a torrential downpour. We got back to our motor home, dried off and turned on the TV to find out what was going on with the weather. The weatherman announced that Hurricane Opal was closer to the coast but actual landfall was still unknown. It could be anywhere between New Orleans and Fort Walton Beach. We went to bed with the plan that we would make our decision on what to do next in the morning. During the night the winds became much stronger and blew the rain into our air conditioning vents, ultimately soaking our bed and the benches in the kitchen area. We decided then to turn around, go back to Mobile and head north hoping to spend the last few days of our honeymoon in a drier area. Needless to say , when we arrived in Mobile, officials had decided to evacuate as many people as possible away from the storms fury. We ended up in bumper to bumper traffic for nearly eight hours just trying to get to Montgomery. We finally reached Montgomery were we decided just to go home to Lilburn. The rest of the story is history. Hurricane Opal followed us all the way home and New Orleans escaped her destruction. If we had gone on to New Orleans as planned, we would have been just fine.
First of all, DO NOT ever book through Cheap Caribbean.com. This on-line travel site is deceiving and has no idea what is really going on with the resorts that they advertise and book for. We booked our vacation from hell earlier in 2009 for a May get-away to Jamaica. After reading numerous reviews on Trip Advisor, we were confident that we had made the right decision-Club Ambiance, Jamaica. In the world of traveling, code words need to be established for reviewers and bloggers. Instead of “excellent staff” and “very accommodating”…The reviews for this dump should have read “staff can get you every drug imaginable” and “swingers paradise”. Cheap Caribbean had rated our hotel a 3 star, but in all actuality we have camped in better conditions. Our room was very outdated, filled with creepy bugs, and extremely unsanitary. (No lie, we found clumps of hair on the floor and in the shower after the maid had cleaned-GROSS!). Our shower was suspect and we never knew what type of water we were going to get. Every morning, you woke up to the glorious smell of sewage-which was enough to make you gag. Our toilet wouldn’t flush and we did not have a working hair dryer. All of these issues were brought to the staff’s attention- but to no avail…The Hotel had random guests which made it very unsafe as well. At night, we would move all of the furniture in front of the door to ease my fears. Regardless, I didn’t sleep much over the entire trip…
The hotel staff were obnoxious and rude. Once they discovered that we were not going to buy pot/cocaine, they ignored us. It took forever to get pre-made drinks, and we often stood for 20+ minutes waiting for anything (the resort was not near full capacity). One of the hotel’s vendors took money from me to make something for my son. He promised to return, but of course never did. Their was a small local bar that played music so loud our room vibrated-which only added to the nightmare. Cheap Caribbean bragged about the beaches and other aspects of this resort. What beaches? This hotel was in a man made cove with sand that is not even indigenous to Jamaica. The resort had signs for a nude beach, but that didn’t seem to matter. People were barely dressed around the entire resort. I am 30 and in pretty good shape. I guess you could say that I wasn’t expecting to have to walk around on my vacation staring at my feet.
I could go on describing this vacation for ever. We have tried to contact Club Ambiance and Cheap Caribbean with pictures of the clumps of hair and our bed bug bites, but they are ignoring us. Word of mouth is such a large part of the travel industry, so I have decided to continue telling everyone I can about our experience. If I can stop one person from going to this “resort”, their time and hard earned money will not be wasted like ours!
My vain attempts at reading some of this nonsense have reminded me of a longstanding wish of mine: that people were doomed to speak the same way they write. If they were, I’m convinced that over half the population would sound like they had Down Syndrome.
Oh, what a Drizzle is a perfect description of a vacation gone wrong! I loved it! How appropriate for Hal and his family if they win…and go BACK to FL. LOL
Rats: Welcome to the islands! Exotic, yes?
Rain: “Bull Durham”: “Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometimes you get rained out…”
Snakes: Copperheads don’t take care of their young like mammals and they certainly don’t hunt people.
Snake….This story is hilarious!! I can definitely visualize the dad standing on the bed! I thought this kind of stuff only happened to me and my family!!
OMG REMINDS ME OF THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF…. WELL MELISSA I GUESS
YOU WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU HOLLA ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU
DID NOT SEE!!!!! TOOO FUNNY COPPERHEAD GOOD ONE I HOPE THIS WIN SOUNDS
LIKE YOU CAN USE A NEW SNAKECATION OPPS I MEAN VACATION LOOOL
My wife and I did a trip to Asheville and Blowing Rock NC via the Blue Ridge Parkway last weekend. Temps on the parkway were in the 70s and on Mt Mitchell it was 63degrees. Returned home Sunday and it was 99
We’re going to Alaska for three weeks! By the way, Seattle is usually dry in the summer and cool but can and usually does get a week or two of 90s. Considering most homes are not air conditioned there (even very high end ones) it is miserable. I spend several months a year there so I know this first hand.
I was on the Parkway last weekend too. 12:30pm last Sunday on Linville Viaduct 70 degrees – got back to Atlanta and it was in the 90s at night.
Highlands is only 2 hours away and at least 10 degrees cooler. Also suggest hitting the Parkway around the Waynesville area. It is maybe 2.5 hours away and you get above 5,000 feet wonderfully cool compared to Hotlanta.
I was there that same week! No warning – just torrential rain, road closures, more rain. Have been there for a hurricane – the rains for this were worse because it lasted so-o-o-o long.
We planned this vacation for weeks. Five days and four nights in a very fancy Panama City Beach Condo. My husband, son, daughter, her boyfriend, and our family friend were all driving down together. We thought we would be extra smart and have some home repairs completed while we were away. I dreamed of coming home to a clean updated kitchen each day we were away.
The night before we were to leave a thunderstorm took out the power making in impossible to pack and get things ready.(taking us off schedule) Our family friend was an hour late (taking us off schedule) The morning of our outing our son woke up with a stomach virus and was sick the entire day. Nothing says fun like traveling with a six year old throwing up for seven straight hours in a car! (schedule? schedule? what is that?)
We made it to the condo only to discover that they had overbooked several families and people were standing in line to talk to managers. Luckily, we were okay and made it to our rooms only to discover that the air condition returns were right in front of our doors making the temp about 110 everytime you opened the door.
The next day our daughter got the stomach virus and was sick all day.
The next day someone keyed our daughter’s new car. In a secured parking area no less! We were left to assume that our fellow travelers were to blame.
Our family friend, who has no children, endured more than enough “family time” with our kids to ensure she will never ever have any children.
The last day, the traveling home day, I had the stomach virus and had just a lovely lovely ride all the way home.
Everyone was sunburned, everyone was tired, by the end everyone was sick! We stragled home barely speaking to each other and just glad to be back in Georgia!!!!
My only hope was my newly painted kitchen….did that work out? Uh, no….no it did not….totally wrong color and not even finished. Our entire house smelled like paint and all our kitchen belongings were sitting out over the entire house. It was a mess!
I have vowed to never ever take another vacation. It is just simplier to stay on the routine and not tempt the fates!
It’ called Hotlanta for a reason y’all. Especially my fellow natives! How many years have we been complaining about it? For me it gets worse the older I get. I’m into flowing water & falls-any recommendations?
LK if you want waterfalls go to Highlands/Cashiers. They have more waterfalls in their county than anywhere in the country. And it is the highest point in the SE so you will be cool as well. I drove up to Murphy this past weekend and could feel the stress and sweat just leave me as I got off 400. Get out of town, support your local GA cities with tourism, and enjoy the slower pace of life. The rat race gets hot sometimes! Lake Vogel and Winfield Scott above Dahlonega/Suches are great areas to picnic and even paddleboat!
Went to Wilderness At The Smokies and loved it! Already planning a return trip next month. They had everything you could ask for; indoor water park, 2 outdoor water parks, restaurants, arcades and they are close to the Tanger Outlets shopping mail – my favorite shopping place!
Flew into Orlando, to vacation with my husband, who drove down a week before. Went to a hotel, ate dinner, went swimming. Back into room, fell and broke my Femur in 3 places, had surgery, spent the next 4 weeks in a rehab, learning to walk. Not funny but, I think it is prize worthy.
The story that won was good but I can top it – week long trip to Cozumel in 2001 at a 5 diamond dive resort. Two days before I left, I tripped over an umbrella getting out of the car and bashed my knee cap falling on to the asphalt parking lot, the next day my aunt died from cancer. Then arriving in Cozumel our room wasn’t ready but if we would pay more, the room would be ready – no thanks so we were taken to a room that had a 6 inch gap all the way around the set-in A/C unit and a lizard had just darted inside. I refused the room so after some rolling of eyes, stomping of my size 7.5 sandals and all my best spanish cuss words, we were moved to a casita on the other side of the property – a small studio like unit. And it was a gorgeous property right on the beach, highly recommended. To make a long story short here is the list of incidents in order during our stay – near miss with a large spider as I stepped into the shower, I fell off the step to the sunken living room and bashed same injured knee into stone coffee table, stung by sea wasps, feel asleep in a lounge chair at the pool and stung by ants, pushed off a catamaran before I was ready w my dive mask and took in a mouth/nose full of sea water, my 13 yr old son got montezuma’s revenge from the one thing I didn’t think of – lettuce on his club sandwich from room service, lost my balance while wading in the beach and fell onto a sea urchin which left several quills in my left hand which feels like shards of glass – the pain is excruciating and then the panic not knowing if the quills are poisonous, crashed into a tree by my horse which again re-bashed my already repeatedly injured knee to the point the taxi driver didn’t want me in his cab to return me to the hotel bc of the blood running down my leg and that same night with my good knee almost walked right into a tarantula crawling on a half wall walkway to our casita (missed him by inches) and finally, the resort misplaced our airline tickets/itinerary leaving us no way to return home. It took over 45 min of panic, spanish cuss words, and all the eye rolling I could muster for them to locate our documents. But despite everything, it was a gorgeous location and a great vacation!
My most romantic trip with my now husband had to be when we drove from Pittsburgh, PA to Mrytle Beach. I know it does not sound like much, but it was fun. We spent time on the beach and other places and had a really good time. We spent the whole weekend there and it was so simple. No stress. He decided we were going to go and we went. Although, on our way back home we ran into a rain storm and I actually had to move the windshield wiper with my hand outside of the window. I know you had to be there but it is one of those stories we tell now and laugh and that is really what its all about.
Veronica – I think the difference is the winner won because all of her things were unavoidable and believable and not exagerrated. In your case, “near misses” with bugs and ant bites and you own loss of balance many times, including loss of tickets might qualify you as clumsy and unorganized. Sounds like most of the things that happened to you were your own fault. I don’t think “5-star” places have the issues your hotel had. Nice story though.
When we were dating each other, my then-boyfriend (now husband) and I had this running joke about me getting my hair cut short. Jason likes my hair shorter, I like it longer. So one day, he asked me to cut my hair, and I said, jokingly, “I’ll cut it short when you ask me to marry you.” Of course, I wasn’t expecting to get engaged anytime soon whenever I made that comment!
Jason invited me to go to Alaska with him on a cruise. The second night on the boat was our first formal dress-up night. After dinner Jason suggested we go back to our stateroom to rest, so back we went to the stateroom, hand in hand. When we got there, he went to use the bathroom. I started changing into t-shirts and shorts. Jason got out of the bathroom, took one look at me, and said, “Put your dress back on!! Why are you changing?” I thought it was a little bizarre that he told me to change back into my dress, but I did as asked.
Then Jason grabbed my hand and led me over to the living room. He pulled me close, looked me in the eyes, and said, “I think you’re going to have to get your hair cut short.” I was really confused. “What?” He looked away, getting teary-eyed, and choked out, “AMY! don’t make me say it.” I was still confused. “What? Say what?”
He got down on one knee, took out a black box, and opened it up, offering it to me. “Will you marry me?” He was tearing up, and I started tearing up too. I got down on my knees and hugged him. “Yes, of course I will!” And then it was a happy mixture of tears and astonishment and hugs–you know, everything is a blur because you’re giddy. It was perfect.
And thinking back on it, I should have realized something was up! Jason told me he walked around for two days with that ring in his pocket, waiting for the right moment. The first night he couldn’t do it because we both got really seasick.
Interesting story – too bad because St Maarten is actually a lovely place to visit. Next time, go to the French side, take the ferry and visit Anguilla.
I had a similar experience: I was on a small cruise ship and went on deck at midnight to watch the ship sail when a handsome young Italian officer approached and started talking to me. All of a sudden I felt excruiating pain and burning in my right eye. I started screaming and running for the nearest ladies room (difficult enough to find on a ship with two good eyes!)desperate for a mirror to get the “thing” out of my eye. When I burst into the ladies room, there were a bunch of older ladies there and all were shocked to see a sobbing girl with a ship’s officer in hot pursuit run into ladies room! Imagine what they thought…….
Anyway, I could not even open the eye and was escorted to my cabin where my sister, who had already gone to bed, pried open my eye and took her fingernail and scraped a huge piece of tar from the inside of my upper lid. Apparently the hot tar blew into my eye when the smokestack was sounded.
The next morning I couldn’t open my eye and visited the ship’s doctor who proceeded to tell me that there was nothing in my eye but eyelashes, apparently prepared to deny injury in case of a law suit. I had a scratched cornea and had to wear dark glasses night and day and could not submerge my head at all(lot’s of fun in the Carribbean). So I ended my week without swimming, snorkeling, with a blood-red eye nearly swollen shut and becoming the talk of both the dowagers and the ship’s crew. Fun times.
Then there is the time I was robbed at machete point in Jamaica or the time we were witness to a serious head-on collision between tourists and locals in a remote and deserted road near West End on Grand Bahama Island. Fortunately I was not injured in Jamaica though I cannot recommend visiting jails in third world countries (or EVER visiting Jamaica). And fortunately the guy driving our car on Grand Bahama had a pocket knife and the forethought to cut out a seat belt and was able to make a tourniquet for the cab driver who had a damaged artery in his left leg. Almost forgot about the taptap buses in Haiti and Baby Doc’s minions who tried to rob my sister and I in Port Au Prince. I could go on and on – makes me wonder why I ever travel.
Reply to “Just a comment” – I was just adding to the topic w my own TRUE experience much the same as the other stories – my vacation which was not exaggerated and not under the influence or unorganized but my own story with the bottom line that I still appreciated my trip as being great. I didn’t realize that my aunt dying or a sea urchin not visible from the water line or even a rowdy horse could be my fault but thanks for pointing it out. And I guess when the hotel requires one’s tickets to be left at the front desk until check-out and then they misplace them, gee – I can certainly see how that would also be my fault. I forgot there are so many people on the site that like to COMMENT on things they know nothing about. As we say in the south – bless your heart!!
What happens if you never meet Mr. Right! I have done everything right. I have worked hard, taken care of my children, been support of my family. But then one day I realize that the kids are older and I home alone. No one to talk to, share my dreams with, or play footsies with for that matter. Where are all the Mr. Rights. Is there truly sucha a thing. But for those of you who have found that long lasting happiness, I am truly happy for you. For me, I will continue to search within myself, ask god for comfort and companion and most of all live life to the fullest.
The most romantic travel story for my husband and I happened, in fact, before we were even husband and wife! I was 20, having just studied abroad in Paris, and was traveling with a friend around Europe. My husband had just graduated from college and was also doing the grand European tour with a friend. I was from Connecticut and went to school in Boston. He was from Baltimore and was starting school at Emory in the fall. Needless to say, our paths never would have crossed in the U.S.
But thankfully, we did cross paths… in Rome, Italy. We both ended up at the same hostel in Rome at the same time. The hostel itself, located near the train station, was very dirty and filled with college students drinking their way through the continent. I was not enjoying our stay there at all. But then, one evening, after a long day of sight-seeing, my friends and I happened upon my husband and his friend eating in the communal kitchen. They seemed nice enough, so we sat down to join them. We talked for a long time, and I remember thinking that it was terribly unfortunate to meet such a wonderful guy all the way in Rome.
The next day, we had to part to go our separate ways. We exchanged email addresses, but I didn’t think anything would come of it. However, when I moved back to Boston in the fall, in a strange twist of events, my now-husband’s best friend moved in down the street! We spent all fall going to football games together while the one I really liked was beginning graduate school thousands of miles away in Atlanta. Thankfully, my husband came to visit that January, when we had only been communicating my email for six months. It was just as wonderful and comfortable as the first time we met in Rome. It was as if we’d known each other our whole lives. But we were so far apart!
Then, in a leap of faith, I applied to and was accepted to graduate school at Emory as well. Though I was planning on going to Harvard, there was something even stronger calling me in the South- and that was my future husband. I moved across the country for a man I’d met completely by chance in a horribly sketchy hostel in Rome– now, five years later, we are happily married and enjoy reminiscing about our happenstance meeting.
Cinnamon hang in there. Love arrives in the most unexpected ways you just need to be receptive. You also have to make yourself available and more sociable.
My story has the attributes of family, a bit or horror and romance at the same time. After 38 years of old maid-hood, I met the man of my dreams. I was not looking, it just happened. Here is my story.
My father had recently married a bimbo and he wanted me to meet my new “grandparents”. (My dad got along with them because they all were the same age.) It was a scorching July day when Dad, the bimbo, my boyfriend and I started up the interstate in Dad’s brand new motor home. The bimbo had picked it out so of course, it had all of the bells and whistles.
After many miles, my boyfriend told me that he was not feeling well and went into the bathroom. That is when we discovered that there was something horribly wrong with the plumbing.
The smell that filled vehicle was deadly. The bimbo and I kept looking at each other, finally breaking into hysterical laughter. We opened every window as quickly as possible. The result was sort of an internal tornado with anything not tied down, blowing around in the foul smelling, now blistering hot air.
My father reacted to the smell and the flying debris by trying to outrun it. The worse the smell got, the faster he drove. Pretty soon, we were flying. He passed everyone and everything. You know how they tell you to vary your speed when breaking in a new vehicle. Well that went out the window (while the smell did not). He had the pedal to the metal and was not letting up.
My boyfriend finally came out of the bathroom, looking sort of green. When he realized what he had caused, he played the “I am sick” card (which was really the “I am embarrassed” card) and went to the bedroom to lie down.
Shortly afterward, he called me to the back. There, he took my hand and asked me to marry him. That was almost 15 years ago and we have been happily married for over 14 years now. Dad and the bimbo did not fare as well. She has gone back to bimbo-land which made everyone happy.
So, while most women can paint a pretty picture of the story of how they got engaged, the one I can relate has mini-tornados, noxious odors and my dad driving up the interstate like a bat out of hell.
I moved to Atlanta from Iowa in 2005, and for various reasons, wasn’t able to spend the holidays with my boyfriend in 2005 and 2006. Finally, in 2007, we decided that he would come home with me for Christmas no matter what. I excitedly spent months telling him about my family’s traditions, but in October, he broke the news that he didn’t think he’d be able to come home with me for Christmas because he would have unexpected family coming to Atlanta. Although I was really disappointed, I still wanted to head back to Iowa and see my family, so we agreed to spend the holidays apart. I drove 16 hours through a snowstorm from Georgia to Iowa three days before Christmas (almost getting stranded at a gas station in the middle of Iowa)to see my parents.
Christmas day rolled around, and we went to my grandparents’ house for Christmas. When we arrived, my aunt(in which I would realize later was a slip-up) asked if my boyfriend was there yet. I told her he wasn’t coming and explained next year he would, not thinking anything of it.
My mom asked me to go downstairs and “help the kids with their Christmas carols,” and about ten minutes later, my aunt came and stood at the bottom of the steps. It didn’t cross my mind that she was manning a post (and my cousin was at the top of the stairs doing the same). My mom calls us all upstairs for dinner, and when I walk into the kitchen, I notice a very large present, about five feet wide and three feet tall sitting on the floor. My dad hands me a note and tells me to read it.
At this point there are 25 people staring at me with goofy looks on their faces and camcorders. I knew something wasn’t right. I read a letter from my boyfriend, which says there was something he forgot to give me in Atlanta, and he collaborated with my mom to get this last present to me. I walked over to the box, lifted the lid, and out pops my boyfriend! He was holding a special ornament in his hand, and he walked over to me and got down on one knee, and asked if I would marry him.
I had my hands over my face and I couldn’t speak, and someone had to prompt me for the answer, which of course was yes. Then comes surprise number two…his parents popped out from the living room! He and his parents drove from Atlanta on Monday, stayed overnight in Cedar Rapids, IA, and arrived around noon on Tuesday at my grandparents. The whole story about family in town for Christmas? It turns out that my boyfriend, my parents and his parents plotted this trip since AUGUST of that year. We spent the next few days with my family and his, going to Christmas gatherings and showing off my new sparkler.
On the way back to Atlanta, we stopped at quirky sports like Metropolis, IL, home of Superman and posed with plywood cutouts of the super heroes, and took pictures of the crazy billboards we saw. While the trip to Iowa was tough, the trip back home was the best road trip I can remember!
January of 2008 I had decided that I wanted to go to vacation with my boyfriend. After looking around for some deals online, I suggested that we go to Vegas. We started looking into it, and the next day he asked if we could rent a car and make the 3 almost 4 hour drive to Zion National Park, Utah for a few days after Vegas. Obviously, I said yes to that. After two nights in Vegas, we headed over to Utah for three.
Now, before we left for this trip, I walked into my livingroom and caught him looking at Facebook and saving a number into his cell phone. I immediately started making accusations, and he assured me that he had some surprise waiting for me, and that the plans would be finalized on Monday and e would tell me. Okay, so I let it go.
Fast forwards to Monday, we wake up and head over to Zion National Park, where he had planned for us to make the trek up to Angel’s landing. At first we had planned on eating breakfast at the park’s lodge, but we got there to late. Instead, we went up the trail to the Emerald Pools (i think that’s what is was called) and ate lunch afterwards.
Blistering hot and semi-exhausted, he said that we should still try to make the trek up, and since he was talking on and on about this trail for the last two months, I said sure. After a while of attempting to beat the heat, I told him that I could not go any further. I began to cry because he had really been wanting to do this, and here I was telling him it was a no go.
I was really upset and he told me it was okay. He reminded me about the surprise he had waiting for me and asked me to turn around. He got on one knee and asked me to marry him right there on the side of the mountain.
Every year my husband and I and our dearest friends travel to Myrtle Beach for bike week. We are not hard core bikers as some are, but we are middle aged (maybe a little more than middle) white collar folks who just love to ride and enjoy the experience. About 2 years ago we decided to try a new place. Everything was great on the ride to the beach, but once we arrived we were informed in no uncertain terms that the bikes could not be parked in the parking lot as this reserved for “club members” only. I didn’t realized at first what that meant but my husband and friend just said “yes, sir” and moved the bikes to a place they were allowed to be parked. Well, turns out the hotel was the same one the Hell’s Angels chose to stay at. They had nearly every room in the place and we were the outsiders. There was a patio with a grill, tables, etc, and a sign that said “Club Members Only”, so we were not permitted to use anything on the patio even walk out onto the deck. There was also a pool, but to be honest we were too afraid to use it. The worst part was not the bikers themselves, but when we looked out our windows all we could see were, Myrtle Beach policy, SLED, U.S. Marshalls, etc. Any law enforcement agency you could imagine was there with there binoulars and cameras 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. They had the entire building surrounded. It was a little scary to say the least. The hotel refused to give us back our money to try to find another hotel, so we decided to try to make the best of if. Everytime we would leave or come back to the hotel, our pictures were taken by law enforcement and I am sure we are in some book somewhere as known associates of the Angels. The entire vacation was ruined because we never knew if gunfire was going to breakout due to some nervous law enforcement agent and we felt as if we used any of the amenities we would be in deep trouble. Needless to say, we will not be returning to that hotel anytime.
In 2004, I was studying abroad in Quebec City. As a French major, I was there for 6 weeks for a language-intensive course at Laval University. My 21st birthday happened to fall during this six-week summer trip. As a surprise, my boyfriend, John, came to visit me for a weekend. He came to visit and sightsee but also to celebrate my birthday.
Saturday morning we got up to see all of the sites in Quebec City. We had fun taking in the sights together. Before he left Atlanta, he had made reservations for dinner at the Chateau Frontenac, a historic hotel over looking the St. Lawrence River. As we were leaving the hotel to make our way to dinner, he handed me my birthday present to hold. It was a little smaller than a shirt box. I must say I was a little disappointed…. We had been dating for about a year and a half, and were talking about marriage. I had hoped that the proposal would happen this weekend…How perfect! However, he quickly assured me the first night he arrived that was not going to happen, as he was planning a holiday proposal.
So, we were off to dinner in his rental car. He quickly became nervous that we were going to miss our reservation because of traffic. I told him it would be no big deal and we could just eat wherever. That, he would not accept. We made it just in time and we were seated at a beautiful table overlooking a statue of Samuel de Champlain, the founder of Quebec as well as the St. Lawrence River. How perfect! The waiter brought us our menus and as soon as he left, John insisted that I open my gift. He said he didn’t want to wait until dessert. So, I opened the card, which was really sweet. I open the box to find Wedding Wishes tissue paper. I remarked that it was a cruel joke, and he didn’t even notice it…he just said “it matched perfectly.” When I removed the tissue paper, I saw a beautiful picture frame with a picture of him on one knee holding a ring box. Written on the glass in silver marker was “Seras-tu ma femme?” which means “Will you be my wife?” I was so stunned that I couldn’t speak. He walked around the table to my chair and got down on one knee, with the ring, and said, “Lindsey, will you be my wife?” The best part was that he was so nervous, he had to tilt his head to the side and take a deep breath to get the words out. I quickly said Yes! The ring was beautiful and we had a wonderful, romantic dinner to celebrate.
Where to start……..
In 2001 we decided to fly to Myrtle Beach on cheap airline tickets and the tragic events of 9/11 forced us to drive home. While we had it much easier than most people we were on our 4th rental car. The first one had air that didn’t work, the 2nd one had a flat tire, the 3rd one could not be taken out of the state and since the airports closed we had to get a 4th car to drive home.
The next year we decided to try Myrtle Beach again. This time we were there for the tropical storm part of the hurricane that hit the east coast. We chose that day to visit
Broadway at the Beach – if you’re familiar with M.B. you’ll know that it is an outdoor shopping experience. We were soaked and windblown but in the end the weather was fine after one day of the tropical storm. I took pictures of the weather warning on the television feeling certain I would not experience that again.
The next year we decided to try a different destination, Panama City. We arrived on Saturday only to evacuate on Tuesday because of Hurricane Ivan. We knew when we saw Jim Cantore on the beach we were in big trouble! We did get to visit Pineapple Willy’s with no wait whatsoever! And all of the TV’s were tuned to the weather channels instead of any kind of sports. We evacuated to Pigeon Forge, TN only to be inundated with rain to the point that the hotel parking lot flooded a lot of people’s cars but we were lucky to have a ‘high riding’ car and ours was not affected.
We thought we’d go way out there the next year and go to Hawaii. As soon as we booked our trip Hawaii experienced the most rainfall they had seen in decades and one of the volcanoes erupted. We hadn’t even gotten there yet and they were already experiencing our luck!!
Last year we went on our first cruise thinking that was a safe choice since we all know they won’t cruise a full cruise ship into harm’s way or a hurricane. On the last night we were sailing we ‘followed’ a hurricane up the east coast and on the 5th deck of the ship we had waves crashing into our window. The boat was rocking so hard it rocked us literally across the room of our cabin and knocked things off the shelves in the gift shop. So much for that.
So now we’ve decided to hire ourselves out for vacation to anyone who might need some sort of natural disaster. Maybe a houseboat on Lake Lanier this year??? None of my family will go on vacation with us now. It’s a true test to see who our real friends are……any takers for the cruise we’ve booked for this year???
Our trip started out on a warm evening, stars were shining and the air had a light breeze blowing. We stopped for dinner at a Italian restraunt and I was so upset I couldnt contain myself. Fidgeting I reached across the table and looked into my husbands glistening green eyes and said I cannot lie to you any longer there is something I have to tell you. Squeezing my hand and looking back into my eyes he said as long as this doesnt involve a trip to the Jerry Springer show go ahead. Laughing broke the tension that was swirling around in the air between us, No i said I am kidnapping you for a long weekend and so we can enjoy riding the North Ga Mountains. His face broke into a wide grin and he said really? What about work? Dont worry my love all has been arranged, Everyone including your boss knows and here is the key to our cabin.
Jumping on the bike we rode to our cabin and spent a wonderful weekend rediscovering one another and the roads that led to no where in paticular just to the destination of our hearts. We strolled hand in hand in the moonlight, danced to the radio and most of all enjoyed each others prescence. Weve now been married 26 years and not a night goes by that he doesnt still tell me he loves me and kisses me goodnight. We havent enjoyed “A” romantic trip, Weve enjoyed a romantic life. After 26 years he is still my best friend, and my heart still beats a little faster when I hear his voice or he walks into a room. This journey we have been privlaged to share together is our romantic trip.
My most romatic trip was when my now husband and I got engaged in 2001.
I had qualified for the USA Long Course Triathlon World Team and the ironman race was in Denmark. The Tuesday before the race I said a tearful goodby to my now husband. I was so sad to be leaving him. My friends, who were competing also, and I arrived in Denmark and went about our business of getting ready to race. We came back from a swim workout and my friend called and told me to come down to his room and bring my bag. He said he left something in it. I was totally confused since I knew he hadn’t, but said I’d be down as soon as I got dressed and was ready for our team dinner.
I arrived at my friends room and knocked on the door. When I opened it my friends were smiling and my now husband was behind the door. He flew to Denmark to surprise me and I was happily shocked.
The race took place a few days later and I was happy to have him there as support. It was wonderful to see his face at the finish line.
The next day we had plans to go to Copenhagen. We took the train to the city, had lunch, and started to tour around. We saw a church and he wanted to go inside so we did. I didn’t mind the rest since my legs were tired from the race. We sat there for a bit and I was kind of ready to go, but he seemed to be stalling. Finally I knew why…he got down on one knee and proposed.
I then found out that my friends who were in Denmark with me, and all of my friends and family back home, knew he was coming to Denmark to ask me to marry him.
Our flight schedules were different so we didn’t get to fly home together, but it sure was nice coming home engaged to the man I wanted to marry.
When we first got engaged I was 19 and in college and my future husband had recently graduated and was on active duty with the Army. He wanted to get me a diamond engagement ring at the PX since they were less expensive there. I told him that I had several diamond rings that I had inherited and to save his money and buy me an emerald when he could afford it. Fast forward 25 years. Our younger son was 8 years old and Mardi Gras coincided with our anniversary that year. We had some time off because of the holiday and decided to take our travel trailer and spend a week at Disney World. Hardly a romantic getaway! On the evening of our anniversary, we left our son at the Mickey Mouse Club and had a lovely dinner at Flaglers Restaurant in one of the nicest Disney World hotels. During dessert my husband gave me a gorgeous emerald and diamond ring. He remembered after 25 years that I wanted an emerald! I have worn that ring every day for nearly 20 years now.
For this 4th of July, my family and I watched the fireworks and a great small town called Perdido Key, FL. They had a great BBQ Extravaganza going on during the day at the beach with face painting and games, and the fireworks at night were amazing. You were able to watch them from three different public beaches, and best of all it was free!
The couple highlighted in “We Met At A Hostel In Rome” is like something in a romantic movie. Straight out of the fairytale books. I’m going to Europe soon and I can only hope to be as lucky!!!
Regrettably, Quebec is not “abroad” since it is a 2 hour flight and only crosses a continental border and not an body of water. Abroad would be Europe, Asia, Africa,,,,,,and why not stay at the Chateau Frontenac, whose rates are similar to other hotels?
Copenhagen is a wonderful romantic city, and it is a great storey, but lacks the full effort of family and friends. Just did not pull my heart strings.
Meet on the other side of the world in a dive and then follow this hot guy to a second rate part of the world, throwing Harvard University to the wind, and obviously it was two sided by the e-mail exchange…now that is a great storey.
The challenge for all three couples in this world…be able to tell their children and grand children in 50 years when statistics say they won’t even be talking to each other.
Wow! Your story is such an inspiration. Your meeting in Rome was definitely fate. Stories like yours help to keep my faith strong and that one day I’ll “bump” into my husband too! Take care and thanks for sharing your wonderful story!
My wife and I met 15 years ago at an auto auction in Hahira. She and I were eying the same 1991 Ford Escort. This cream puff was powder blue and ready to roll…only some minor body damage. As the bidding escalated, only the two of us were left. At first, we exchanged only looks of contempt and scorn in the battle for our dream car. But as we sparred up to the $1400 mark, I began to notice a certain cuteness in the way she furrowed her brow my way. She later admitted she became strangely aroused by the commanding way I voiced my bids. Long story short, I walked away with a lot more than the Escort. The powder blue Escort with beer cans tied behind it on our wedding day is a memory I will cherish till I die. Our two-night honeymoon in Panama City was a seven-alarm blaze and the embers are still red!
Thank you all SO much for your comments! We obviously love our story, but we are a bit biased! It is incredible that it touches and means something to others, too. Thanks again.
Airplanes are certified for a maximum number of passengers due to safety reasons. You have to be able to get everyone out in a short time through the emergency exits. Therefore, you cannot ‘cram’ 50% more passengers on an aircraft. Even though it might be technically possible, this would be a safety and regulatory nightmare.
Tex – studying abroad simply means studying in a different country. You do not have to be overseas. So, if a student lives in the U.S., then studying in Quebec would most definitely be studying abroad.
I had been married to my best friend for 21 years, in fact we celebrated our first meeting in June 22 years to the date. We have assembled a 19, 17 and 13 year old, and most recently have begun the process to adopt two toddlers abandoned by their mother in downtown Atlanta. We needed a get-a-away, as the last two months introduced us to diapers and ‘child-proofing’ all over again, kind of like the runner who had settled into the last mile- and then opted for another 20 miles in full sprint. We decided to stay in Atlanta and researched local fare for the perfect evening.
We found the St. Regis, a newly opened property in Buckhead because it boasted an elegant and stunning outdoor pool. We packed our bag, gave the kids the cell number and headed to one of the most wonderous places in Atlanta. Nothing could have prepared us for the decor, the friendly staff and the over-sized rooms! Our suite was furnished with every luxury, including a chilled bottle of champagne.
We had spent our 20th anniversay in Rome, It., and as we lay besude the sinding staircases next to the Olympic pool being served hand and foot- our singular thought was that this was what Rome had wished it had in both beauty and romantic flair. We dined at Paces 88, another treat, and then headed back to the quiet of our Roman Holiday, 30 minutes from home, but a whole world away!
Definately will not go to Vilamoura anymore, 6 Hour rounds of Golf and 4.5 Euros for a beer , we will stay clear of the Vilamoura golf courses this year, and the so called free shuttle bus turns up if you are lucky.
I think I’ve stayed at the hostel you described. It was right by the main train station, Hostel Alexander or something like that. Very dirty but an interesting group of people. I was studying abroad and stayed there with friends in the fall of 2000. Anyway, small world.
A sort of different vacation. Flew into Louisville, KY and drove 30 miles to visit friends in Scottsburg, IN. Fun time on their pond with the geese teaching their babies how to fly and music of the locals at the South Boston Opera on Friday nights. Then to Churchill Downs for the races, (Forget the order of things now), Bowling Green to the Corvet museum, Jim Bean Distillery, Lincoln’s birth place, Jack Daniels Distillery in KY, Nashville and the Grand Ole Opery and Jackson’s home and then the Space and Rocet Museum in Alabama. On to Orange Beach and hot 95 – 100 degree heat with humidity at 80-85 for a family reunion. Will take Boise any time with its dry heat. Besides, I’m Basque!!
My Vegas trip….
well to start, we got in Vegas around 10pm, settled in the hotel (MGM), walked around, ate diner and went to the room and fell alseep. The next morning we woke up super earlier, went to breakfast, walk around some more, fell asleep! Later that day, I was so tired I didn’t want to do anything, but my boy friend looked like he was bored out of his mind. I was feeling very ill, but I had to have fun on this trip. I had been looking forward to Vegas for about a year! So we gamble, did a little site seeing, had a few drinks, and decided to shop, so that we could go to a party later on. We were excited because we slept the first night, so he went to take a shower, by the time he finish I was KNOCK OUT! LOL! The next day my parents called sounding so excited “hows Vegas…I think we told the biggest lie that we will ever tell. So I decided to go to the store and get a pregnacy test…it was positive! OMG…! I think that cancel our Vegas trip. We didn’t drink, we didn’t party, we didn’t do anything, but we SLEPT IN VEGAS. A couple weeks later…I lost the baby. I’ll never forget my first time in VEGAS…., maybe I’ll try again…(the trip)
Hahaha! Nobody’s talking! Guess they’re not ready to ‘fess up yet! LOL! I don’t have a story, just a word of advice….. NEVER eat sushi downtown Las Vegas. The strip is okay, ‘tho.
Got married in Vegas last year, but this story isn’t about that. This story took place on April 14, 2000 at my friends wedding. We went to see Andrew Dice Clay at the Venetian. A couple of us already had tickets via ticketmaster, but a few others got in line to buy them. About that time, a guy walked over and said he had some for sale. Well, turns out those were tickets comped to him. Long story short, the eye in the sky saw this and we were all escorted into a dark room buy some very large, no-neck men in tuxedos. Expletives were flying out of their mouths, accusing the man of disrespecting them buy selling the tickets they comped to him. It was like a scene out of a movie and that was our first ever night in Vegas. It was funny and really scary at the same time. I’ll be back there in December and hopefully will have a good story to tell.
I have taken two trips to Vegas. The first one was years ago with one of my best friends when I turned 30! We had flown to Pheonix to begin our journey seeing all the sights. The only night we did not have booked was our night in Vegas. We thought rooms would be plentiful. WRONG! We ended up staying at the Stardust. It was okay but nothing like what they have now. The next morning was Sunday and I was amazed that people were actually gambling on a SUNDAY!! What had happened to our world! We lost money and I still blame it on the fact that we were gambling on a Sunday! My next trip was recently with my family for a short stay before taking my parents to see the Grand Canyon for the first time. We were able to get a great deal at the Venetian!!!! WOW! We were “styling” on this trip. We manage to stay inside most of time time until my wonderful little neices heard about the rides at Circus Circus. So the next day we decided to walk. My sister had rented a car but the rest of us thought we’d be troopers and walk. As we walked down the street each one of us was getting hotter and hotter. Of course it was 115 degree outside!!!! As family members started droping like flies my sister would pick them up and continue to Circus Circus with them in tow. My brother-in-law and I were the only ones that walked the entire way! People kept saying “but its a dry heat”! So what! My oven is dry too but its still hot!!!!!!!!!!!
My identical twin and I went to Vegas with our other sister and her daughter in January 2007. Got checked into New York New York and even though it’s around 1AM, we’re pumped ’cause, Hey, it’s Vegas, baby! So my twin and I go to the lobby/casino before the other two. As we stood simply surveying where to go first, a well-heeled man approached us and asked if we were twins. We get that all the time—even now as grown women—so no big deal and we answer our typical, “Yes, since we were born!” He comes back with, “Well do I get both of you?” We look at each other and then back at him with a mixture of “What did he just say?” and “Did he just say that?” He doesn’t miss a beat, and says, “Well, yall do turn tricks don’t you? Isn’t that why your standing here?” We both say, “NO!” simultaneously. He vanishes in about a nano second. I should add here that we both were wearing jeans and sweaters…..if that’s what the “styling” working girls wear in Vegas, but that’s doubtful.
If you can fully remember all of the details of an outrageous story from Vegas, then it didn’t happen (Kind of like the old saying about Woodstock, “if you remember it, you weren’t there.).
My trip back in March was probably my craziest Vegas trip to date. Was out there to hang out with some friends from Alberta and there were definitely some crazy moments. We were all being so loud, drunk and obnoxious at a steakhouse that they seat our group by ourselves in one of the dining rooms (The limo ride to and from this casino was so crazy that my sides hurt from laughing so much.) Another highlight was one of our guys getting his picture taken on Fremont Street with a guy holding a religious sign about the perils of Las Vegas; made even more funny by the fact that our guy was holding a drink in one hand at the time.
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well…went to Vegas with my girlfriends back in ‘05…left wondering why they called it Sin City, cause we didn’t see it….went back this year for my 35th bday with just 1 girlfriend, and now I know why!!!! We are still remembering bits and pieces of the trip and I will never tell what I am having flashbacks of, but i do remember an hour of Saki bombs in the Japanese restaraunt at MGM….loud and crazy fun with complete strangers!!!
My experience in Vegas was truly remarkable. We had just got married and was on a four day extravanganza.We travel by some airline like “Soulplane ” the movie where I lost my cell phone in the cab on the way from the airport. We met our friends at the beautiful 4 bedroom house we shared for this couple retreat since we had never been there. They left us for Hoover Dam exhibit. We walked and walked up and down the strip until we fell into one of the shows on the strip. The show turned out to be an alternative lifestyle musical in which my wife wasn’t so amused. After we left , our first marital arguement began. I left only to have a flat tire in the middle of no where ( intoxicated ) . After i returned back to the house little after 7am the vacation started all over again but this time it went a little smoother. I got to see all the Elvis chapels , Toni Braxton show , and 600 buck come up in the 3 remaining days along with shopping the vegas strip. Luckily God has still bless our marriage. So be careful in Vegas !!
In addition to my email comment about Vegas is the kicker , My wife was 6 months pregnant so the alcohol factor into our trip made the story unique if you have ever been through the Casinos. Men know about the cards after dark. Crazy !! but I love it !!
[...] The most romantic travel story for my husband and I happened, in fact, before we were even husband and wife! I was 20, having just studied abroad in Paris, and was traveling with a friend around Europe. My husband had just graduated from college and was also doing the grand European tour with a friend. I was from Connecticut and went to school in Boston. He was from Baltimore and was starting school at Emory in the fall. Needless to say, our paths never would have crossed in the U.S. Read on [...]
This is a finalist? Seriously? I’m glad I didn’t bother to send in a submission, because it certainly wouldn’t have had enough exclamation points to make the cut.
Don’t forget the upper panhandle of ID. A world away from Boise and Southern ID climate-wise. More Pacific moisture, smaller, greener mtns (reminds you of Western NC). Went to school in Moscow (UI) while at UGA. Loved it up there and explored every chance I got. Sandpoint area is a must-see.
These were the finalists? My goodness…Not only were they not funny, entertaining or amusing, but they were poorly written. Had I known getting to the finals would be this easy, I would have made up something!
Why all the hatin’ people? Sour grapes? Why? Let’s think for a minute…..soldiers dying in Iraq and elsewhere, house foreclosures, job losses, any personal health tragedy one can be struck down with…..OK, so 3 people decided they might brighten their day or someone else’s. They didn’t claim to be Truman Capote or Ernest Hemingway or even Candace Bushnell (Sex & The City author) or Jim Carrey……just everyday people who retreated out of the real world for just a moment to recall a frivilous moment in their lives. So what? All the “haters” should just appreciate what’s around them……albeit mundane to them. And next time, Stephanie, why don’t you submit an entry? P.S. The writers were told to “keep it very clean.” Obviously, the AJC would not have printed otherwise. Common sense here.
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Well said JB. I can’t believe all these negative and RUDE comments! Obviously none of you submitted so quit complaining and wait for the next contest. I’m glad my mom’s about to win a FREE trip to Florida for taking 5 minutes out of her day to tell a funny story as opposed to taking 5 minutes to tell someone how lame their writing is.
We live in Vancouver, B.C., which has warm water because of the Japan current. But we appreciate the cold water beaches of the NW. We visited the beach at Cape Dissapointment near Ilwaco WA on a summer’s morning. We were the only people there. A morning fog haunted the land as we walked like explorers leaving the only footprints on this isolated beach. The huge and near deafening waves pounded at the storm ravages rocks as gulls wove patterns in the fog. It was magical. It make feel wild and almost as mad as the French Lieutenant’s Woman. It made me do the obligatory spin in the sand as I danced through the cold firm wet sand. Smiles.
None of these finalists should have been printed. They certainly should NOT win a prize. Worst stories I’ve ever heard. Glad I don’t have to travel with any of them. BORING does not begin to cover them.
Great that you mentioned Mt. Hood Adventure Park for Skibowl…those bungee jumps, ziplines and alpine slides are great for the active set. For young ones looking for additional hands-on experiences, Rosse Posse Acres Elk Farm and Dream Ridge Stables trail rides are great.
Stupid contest, but I don’t blame the entrants. I’ve got way better stories about Vegas, but there’s no way they could get printed (even if I wanted people to know).
Just got back from Maine 3 weeks ago. First time in New England. The coast there is also rocky, very different from Southern beaches. We loved it. The rocks and cliffs were so beautiful! We would go back again in a heartbeat.
Wow – Lame does not begin to describe these stories. Not talking about the writing, just that there is nothing interesting about them.
- Guy buys tickets from someone who had them comped and the guy they bought them from gets in trouble
- People walked in the heat
- Somebody thought twins in the casino at 2 in the morning were working girls
When my husband and I were dating it seemed like all of our trips seemed to center around cars – Sebring, Petit Le Mans, etc. and involved camping. Like outside in a tent camping – of which I had never done before I met him. So I asked if the next vacation we took could be one that didn’t involve cars (even though I’m an auto enthusiast also) and that I could sleep on a nice cushy bed and not on a sleeping bag outside. He said sure and that he’d plan it. He checked with me to make sure that my schedule at work was open over the weekend of February 1st/2nd. He wouldn’t tell me where we were going, but didn’t mind if I’d ask questions. “Is it near an ocean?” “Is it near a racetrack?” “Have I been there before?” and all of these were answered ‘yes.’ We happened to be watching Food Network one night and he said “How hard do you think it would be to get reservations at Paula Deen’s restaurant on a Friday night?” and I said “We’re going to Savannah, aren’t we????” He said “um, no, why would you think that? no more questions…” :p So, vacation time rolls around and we’re at the airport and he hands me my boarding pass…to Savannah! He couldn’t believe I guessed it. We flew into Savannah and picked up the rental and headed to the Dresser Palmer House – beautiful house and wonderful service there. The room was just crazy romantic – giant four-poster bed that had a small set of stairs that you had to climb to get into it, beautiful verandah, just gorgeous. I was laying on the bed and Luke was digging around through his luggage and he said ‘well, want to know the itinerary?’ “Sure!” ‘We’ll get up tomorrow and go to Tybee Island to see the sunrise, then come back and have breakfast, pack our luggage and then we have to leave.’ “WHAT? We just got here???” ‘Well, we’ll be heading back to the airport because we’re going to fly to San Diego to watch the sunset. You okay with that?’ “HOLY CRAP!” (not the most ladylike thing to say, I know) “YES! Wow, San Diego???” ‘Oh yeah, I have a surprise – shut your eyes.’ He walked over to the bed and sat me up. As soon as he grabbed my left hand I knew what was going to happen….he proposed. After much hugging and smooching on my part, he grabbed my shoulders and asked ’so, is that a yes?’ He was going to propose at Tybee the next morning but couldn’t wait. We flew to San Diego the next afternoon – watched the sunset on the Pacific after watching it rise on the Atlanta. Spent the night and morning in SD and headed back home (after a nice surprise upgrade to first class by Delta!) on Sunday. We married at the Dresser Palmer House last August 30th and are approaching our first year anniversry. Perfect trip – perfect wedding – happy marriage.
As a kid, I was a girl scout and one summer I went to camp with my sister for a week. We did girly activities and the other girls cried all week to go home they were so homesick. I didn’t get what all the fuss was about. To say the least I never went back to girl scout camp.
Boy Scout camp, on the other hand was way better! The summer after my sophomore year in college my boyfriend at the time had convinced me to work as a counselor at a local boy scout camp, Woodruff Scout Reservation. He had worked there for several years and they way he talked about all the cool activities – swimming, tubing, rafting, hiking, riflry, teaching – oh and there were boys! Staff boys! With a ratio of about one girl to every 15 staff boys the odds were looking good.
Summer camp was fun and beautiful. Woodruff is nestled in the mountains of North Georgia near Blairsville. My cabin all three summers was on the small private lake that belonged to the camp. During off times I could watch sail boats, fisherboys, waterskiers, and the crazy chaos of the swimming area. The sunlight up there was perfect for summer – bright, clear, and warm. In my memory, my favorite part of camp was the way the water glittered on a clear day and the green in the valley around the lake was so verdant it felt like heaven.
Did I mention there were boys? Little boys, skinny boys, screaming boys, cute boys. There were several campers in my classes that were more memorable than others for various reasons usually associated with how much disciple I had to give them. One counselor on the waterfront staff as me my second year, post-boyfriend, was the most memorable. He was tall, tan, with brown hair and eyes like chocolate pools. Somehow I noticed that we keep following each other around. I would save a seat for him and he one for me whereever the staff was meeting. One bright moonlit night on the bridge over the lake we had that conversation.
“Do you like someone at camp?”
“Yes”
“Is it Sam?”
“No! It’s you silly!”
That is how I met my husband and how I had the best three summers of my life . . . at Boy Scout Camp.
I attended a Salvation Army camp in Upstate New York for 9 summers. The camp sessions only lasted 1 week, but once I was old enough, I worked at camp for the whole summer. I spent 7 summers working at summer camp.
The camp I attended was a traditional camp with space for about 150 campers. One set of cabins had a community shower and restrooms. Those cabins were usually assigned to boys. The other two sets of cabins had bathrooms and showers inside. It is located on one of the finger lakes and we could take our campers out on a pontoon boat or canoeing. Canoeing was always fun, but it seems that every day one summer I had to swim out after a canoe that went too far or the campers lost their oars. The camp had a pool, the undertow of the lake made it too dangerous for a dedicated swimming area. That allowed for cabins that won special awards to go “night swimming.” Of course we had campfires and I still remember the dozens of camp songs I learned over 25 years ago when I was a camper. Those songs are still sung today. Our camp has a Facebook group page with hundreds of members, there are people on there that I haven’t seen in 15 years, but we still message back and forth. I’ve told many people, camp is much more fun for the staff than the campers. We had a night watch set up so that three of the nine counselors in a cabin group had duty and the other six were off. We were allowed off property to go to town as long as we were back by curfew. We would go to town and play “Fire Drill” with multiple cars, visit the local cemetery and scare ourselves silly or just cruise the back roads. Staff trips on our days off included Niagara Falls, Boston and Maine. One of my friends met his wife at camp and even though they are both from England, they had their wedding at camp! Another friend just had her kids come back from the same camp we went to as kids and even though camp has changed over the years, they loved it! Just as we did when we were campers and staff.
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A Little Piece of Heaven
Kid Heaven is definitely an accurate description of my summer camp experience! In fact, one of the songs that is sung each Friday night at closing ceremonies says “a little piece of heaven there nestled in the pines, it’s a home away from home to me.” I met the man of my dreams, who happened to be named Kelly as well, at Camp High Harbour on Lake Burton. Now we share the same first and last name.
I started going to camp the summer after 4th grade. It was incredible – 2 weeks of watersports, running around in the woods, playing games like Capture the Counselor, camping out, making friends, and learning about God. It is defintely the place where kids can just be kids. I loved it, and kept going to camp there until I was old enough to be a counselor and then a program director. In all I spent 11 summers of my life there and finally had to give it up when I was 21 to get a “real job.”
The most important thing I got from camp would have to be my husband! We had know each other and worked together for years, but we started dating the summer after my sophomore year of college at UGA. He had just graduated that semester from UGA as well and was off to start his career, but not before one last hoorah at camp! He already had a job lined up for the Fall, so he had it made. He started the summer off with some pick up line about us having the same name if we got married… who knew! We dated for 3 years until he pulled off a proposal on the waterfront at where else but camp. We were married in November of 2006, and we just had our first child, a sweet baby boy, 6 weeks ago today.
We are both actually still involved with the camp. My husband is on the board for the organizatinon and won their Volunteer of the year of the award for 2008. We tell everyone we know about this place and our children will definitely be going there. It is incredible how much kids love this place and how they are dying to go back year after year. The counselors are trained so well and have such a passion for fun and serving the kids. The whole experience teaches kids so many important things – everything from how to have fun and be crazy to having confidence in yourself and learning about God. I know that both my husband and I attribute a lot of who we are to camp because of all that we learned and experienced there. I am so thankful that I was able to talk my parents into sending me there all those years ago!
This is a heads-up to those who want to have a happy, successful family vacation. I just returned from an extended family week with 4 sibs, their spouses and children, and a pair of grandparents, total 16. It was successful in the sense that we are still talking to each other, but it was a costly, excruciating week of stressful togetherness. Take heed: 1) everyone who needs their own room gets a bedroom. Don’t assume that grandpa and grandma, sleeping in separate bedrooms for 20 years, will somehow be able to share a bed for the duration. There are good reasons that they sleep apart. 2) Stay in a hotel and let someone else do the cooking and cleaning. We rented a house, entailing HOURS every DAY in shopping, cooking, dishwashing, laundry, and a big clean-up at the end. NOT a vacation in my book! 3) Make the stay equal to the attractions. We lingered a week in an area that had 3 days worth of attractions. It would have cost less for an enjoyable shorter stay in that nice hotel with room service and maids. 4) Make sure there is a beach or pool close by to occupy the kids. They popped the kiddy pool we brought on the first day and had to be driven to a distant lake. 5) Don’t assume self-catering is cheaper — after stocking the fridge, freezer, and coolers daily, we had to dump food and supplies that no one had space to truck home. It would have the same for free continental breakfast, modest lunch, and lavish dinners for all at restaurants. 6) If you are bringing elderly/disabled, give them every consideration. Both seniors spent days in discomfort, sleep deprivation, and unnecessary pain due to poor planning and thoughtlessness on the part of the larger group. Gramma, Grandpa, take an active role in the vacation planning and don’t assume your needs will be met. You have a say as participants! 7) Don’t assume the kids are safe because they are in the bosom of family. Parents drop their guard around family, as a result no one is really paying attention to the kids. The worst that happened to ours is that they got away with eating junk food for a week. But kids wander off, get lost, drown, climb live antenna masts, you’ve heard it happen to ‘other people’ don’t let it be you — always designate someone to be on point while the rest of the family is preoccupied with partying. Every rose has its thorns. Our ‘perfect getaway’ was convenient to both landfill and cow pastures, thus the fly problem was nightmarish. The beautiful pine house with no rugs or wall hangings echoed every laugh, catcall, kid-screech, TV show, MP3 program, footfall and door slam in its three stories, ensuring that all slept only when the last man went down, and all arose with the earliest riser. It was a courageous first whole-family vacation for us, and I’m relieved that I’ve been there, done that; and learned how to ensure that next time is more enjoyable!
In the year leading up to my first time at camp as a scout, the troop worked to sell items to be able to afford the 2 weeks. We were all about 12 years old and some of us had never been away for a day, so 2 weeks was going to be an Adventure.
I selected 2 weeks in the middle of the entire summer, which meant that girls going there for longer stays would have formed friendships and tent mates.
I remember the meeting at the firehouse for drop off, getting on to the bus and riding it to up-state New York somewhere, having to walk, over a bridge, down a long trial, past the pit toilets and all the tents on platforms dragging my gear. We spent meals in the main canteen, rotating tasks daily of table setup, clean up and dishes, there was not getting out of your responsibilities. Camp fires and swimming in a lake.
On one group hike, we carried our sleeping bags and some other gear, needed for an easy sleepover at the lean to, about a mile or so up the trail. As we started out, the counselors were not sure of the trail blazes to follow and the group got split up. Soon we came to the shelter, but it was already occupied by other hikers. Meanwhile it started to rain and while waiting for the rains to let up, a fire was started in the fireplace. As the rock heated up a big black snake that was resting on the chimney rocks soon felt the warmth of the fire and dropped off right onto the shoulders of one of the counselors who scream and danced about in an attempt to get the snake off her. It was quickly decided that we could not stay there with the other hikers or the snake, so it was back on the trails; soon we were hopelessly lost and just walking about. As dusk started to set in, we came to an opening that had a few yellow buses parked. It happened to be another camp. We were told to board the buses and wait. Some of the seat cushions were missing and we had to rest on the metal frames or against the wall until our camp was notified and the buses were sent for us. Wet and tired some of use slept. The bus arrived what seemed like hours later along with a few counselors and their cars. As we divided up into groups and got into the bus and cars, we thought the adventure was over, but for some it was just beginning. As two of the car get into an accident and several of the campers spent the night at hospital. After that we were not allowed on any other group activities that meant the counselors taking us out of camp, the rest of the time left was devoted to letters to home, crafts and swimming in a Safe area pen.
To say the least, I never when back to that camp or another.
Kelly O….of course you had to be one of the first to comment on here. Hope your baby is doing well. I’ll have to make my way over to visit sometime. Miss you guys!
I went to camp at YMCA Camp Piomingo in Kentucky. My first year there was when I was 7 years old. My brothers had both been the summer before (when I was too young, technically!) and I was so jealous I couldn’t see straight. When I finally got to go, I went for two weeks. My first counselor, Chris, was the guy from the camp counselor poem – running in the cabin in the middle of the night, in a tutu waking us up telling us we’re going to do something. He made it perfect. So much so that I kept returning each summer and later became a CIT and a staff member. All in all 13 wonderful summers spent at Piomingo. While I had a great time as a camper, it was the reward of making a positive impact in the life of a child that I value most from my years as a counselor, aquatics director, program director…etc.
The memory that always sticks out in my mind (aside from all the funny ones) is the time I stayed over the weekend to be a counselor for a specialty camp. We normally had the weekends off, but I volunteered to work that weekend for some reason. The weekend was the V.I.P.S. Camp – Visually Imparied Pre-Schoolers, for visually impaired kids, their siblings and parents, in 1992. Most of the kids were totally blind, or at least had such impairments that they could only determine light and darkness. It was definitely a challenge to constantly remind myself that my normal physical comedy antics wouldn’t be such a hot sell to this crowd. We did all of the big ticket camp items that weekend: mudslide, caving (where I was reminded how awesome these kids were again), swimming, arts and crafts, etc. It was in arts and crafts that for the first time I could put myself in their shoes. I did a painted rock with a camper (Jamie) who was born blind. He was awesome. I asked him, in my blunt/honest style, how were we going to do this (he was 9 going on 30). He just told me to describe the colors to him. I know it sounds like a scene in a movie, but there we sat under the large maple tree that hangs over the multi-colored, tattered, “Arts-N-Crafts” cabin, as I described colors to him and let him choose which ones he wanted to use. He ended up with a fresh cut grass, hot sunny day, cinnamon, popsicle colored rock. And I ended up learning a lot from a kid.
I went to Camp Illahee for girls in beautiful Brevard, North Carolina for several wonderful summers. Every spring, I would spend hours poring over the camp brochure, carefully selecting which courses I would be enjoying during my three weeks in North Carolina. Seventh grade year, I was bored by the prospect of tie-dying tees and sculpting clay doo dads for yet another summer in Arts & Crafts. I wanted to try something exciting, something different (and not as scary as say, rockclimbing or whitewater rafting). One of the more peculiar options was a class called “Printmaking”, in which girls would learn to “handcraft stationery and other printed items” using an old-fashioned Platen printing press.
In June, I found myself amidst a small circle of campers surrounding a medieval looking iron contraption in the dark basement of a camp lodge. As the counselor explained how the press worked, I began to seriously doubt my decision to spend my afternoons in this manner. However, I soon learned to enjoy the methodical process of setting letters and shapes into the type mold and locking them into the press to be flattened against sheets of paper. I also liked the teamwork required to operate the press: one girl in charge of loading the type mold into the press, while another turned the wheel that drove the plates together.
These two steps were intended to be done independently of one another, but I had the unfortunate occasion to learn firsthand what happens when done in tandem. You see, one afternoon, a younger camper was partnered with me to turn the wheel. She was somehow distracted, and began to turn the wheel before I had fully extracted myself from loading in a mold. In slow motion, I watched the edges of the plates biting down toward my suddenly vulnerable looking hands. And narrowly missing escape, I felt the most excruciating pain my 13-year-old self had ever known as the iron clamped down on my right index finger.
The agony was so intense that I proceeded to pass out in the dank basement, only to awake in the arms of the counselor selflessly carrying me up the hill to the infirmary. The camp nurse cheerfully splinted my throbbing finger and sent me on my way with a warning to keep it elevated as much as possible. This required a lot of walking around appearing as if I was aimlessly pointing into the distance. By supper that night in the dining hall, my freak accident and bizarre new pointer stance had become the center of camp attention. And to add further insult, my bunkmates rolled mercilessly on the cabin floor in laughter as my counselor tied my splint with string to the bed coils above my lower bunk so that I could of course keep my injured digit aloft. It wasn’t until August, while boating on my hometown lake, that the mangled nail fell off. Conveniently, in front of my entire youth group. I’ve stuck to humdrum Arts & Crafts ever since.
I am a Scoutmaster for a Boy Scout Troop. I took my scouts to Woodruff Scout Resevation this year. Usually the first day is very hectic in registration, moving into your campsite, and making sure the scouts take their swim test.
This particular Sunday was very hot and every one was wore out and went to bed early. This is my third summer camp with the scouts and I have never encountered home sickness from any scout. Around midnight of the first night one of the younger scouts came and knocked on my tent and told me he was ready to go home. Initially he really startled me and this was my first brush with homesickness. I told him we would call his mom the next day. We prepped the mothers of the boys for situations like this. She stayed strong and made him stay the whole week even though he begged her to come get him.
Well, this scout looked depressed the whole week. One evening we had a horseback ride. In order to get on the horses each boy had to have a permission form. When we got to the stable the homesick scout asked me could he tear up his permission form. I asked him why. He looked me in my eyes and said, “The horses don’t look this big on TV.” I laughed and made him get on the horse. After the ride he had the biggest smile on his face for the first time that week. That smile alone made taking a week vacation from work worth going to summer camp.
I went to summer camp several years in a row with my church. At the time, I wasn’t all that keen on the idea. Especially, the days and hours leading up to the time which I actually had to leave my parents and go with a bunch of boys and girls that I didn’t really like all that much. Amazingly, those same kids provided some of my fondest memories and became best friends.
Those skits were the worst! At least so I thought before I actually took part in one. I was horrified at the prospect. My parents never warned me about this! This shy Mama’s boy was quite surprised to find out how much fun it actually was to get up on stage and show what summer camp was all about. I made some really good friends while we rehearsed for those skits.
Over coming fears, getting in trouble, getting away with things that kids get away with at camp, crushes on girls, all helped form the over all experience and fuse those memories into my psyche so that I would never forget. One of the most memorable was seeing my pastor, quiet and reserved, turn into a young child right before my eyes as he smeared whipped cream in my face during a giant food fight! From that point on, his sermons always seemed a little more real to me.
Every day was an adventure waiting to happen. I felt like some hobbit on an errand with Gandalf as we went on hikes through the woods, took canoes into the lake, swam and played day and night. The nightly campfire stories still resonate deep inside. I can’t wait to turn into a kid again when I can tell them to my kids when they’re older. Each and every child should get a chance to have summer camp memories to carry with them the rest of their lives.
One time at band camp…. LOL Just kidding…but I had to say that because every summer I would spend a week at band camp. Hello my name is Tiffany and I am now 28 years old. I know many of you have seen the movie American Pie….very funny movie…but very misleading about band camp. At least with my camp exsperiance.
To be honest most all of the week I would find myself with all my fellow band “nerds” fighting the heat, the bugs and our “Sargent” band teacher.. From the crack of dawn till night time feel, we would march. Working on our positions and our notes…either on the field or during an inside rehersal.
There were a couple of exciting things that happened during the 4 years of band camp that I attended. One year there was a talent show. All the girls in my cabin decided to do a scene from the musical Greece…which might I add is like every bandies favorite movie…LOL… We won the talent contest and it was great fun. One year we had a dance. It was a combination of our school and another schools band that was also there for band camp… It was nice but everyone was shy and kinda stuck to thier own…. One year a couple girls snuck out to meet some boys from another school…NO NOT ME..LOL However it was very entertaining to all of us because they got busted and we all awoke to them marching up and down the street as punishment at 3am.
Truth be told I spent most of the week missing my boyfriend and family back home. I spent forever on the phone talking to everyone. One time the operator kept cutting in telling me to deposit more money. Finally she broke in on the line….I didn’t even know they could do that…she told me I better deposit more money. I informed her I had no more money and good luck finding me…I was one of the hundreds of kids at band camp!!! LOL
One year I did find a guy that was new to our school that seemed really cool. I really liked him. He would always come to my cabin and ask to talk me and we would swim and hang out together. I had finally found a friend. I thought he was kinda cute and thought to myself…hey maybe we could hook up. Turned out he was gay. LOL That is about the story of my life. My soon to be husband knows all to well. Anytime I point out a guy that I think is hot… he turns out to be gay. Adam Lambert I love you!!!
Every year we stayed in the same place…Rock Eagle. It was a wonderful camp and if you ever have an oppertunity to send your child there I suggest you do so…just make sure you pack them lots of snacks. I thought the food was ok…but everyone always seems to be starving and looking for a snack machine.LOL
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Ah, summer camp. Remember swimming in the lake, cooking out, making s’mores over the campfire, endless bug bites and stifling heat?
I do. My son was fortunate enough to participate in Sandlot Sports Camp this July, which is directed by my friend, Kim Johnson and facilitated by her team of tireless volunteers. I was fortunate to be able to participate too, with all things food, from planning, to clean up and every conceivable craziness in between.
Nothing in my foodservice career had prepared me for the emotional roller coaster a pack of eighty kids can drive.
Having an eight year old of my own, I’ve certainly heard my share of, “I don’t eat that.”, but I was at times overwhelmed by the snubs worthy of a cruel adult, only to be followed with a feeling of elation brought on by equally approving grunts, mmmm’s, and the occaisonal compliment. I didn’t know which way to turn. I was being tested, I knew it!
Seriously, how do you keep that many hungry tummys happy at mealtime? I believe in my heart the answer is, tacos.
The real answer, of course, is that you can’t please them all, and it’s not necessary to try. Most of these kids just want to know that someone cares about them, whether it’s taking the time to make a good meal for them or just paying them some sincere attention.
I can’t say I’ve ever worked that hard for that long – five days. Five long days, not including the days of prep before and clean up after. Could it be possible that Mario Batalli and Anthony Bourdain never have moments of weakness and self-pity?
After being a small part of this great Sandlot Sports Camp adventure and watching the other volunteers pour their hearts and souls into helping these kids blossom, I could only rub some dirt on my imagined wounds and have a new appreciation for those who give freely of themselves to show others a better way.
As I soak my feet and reflect, I realize we should all have more ’summer camp’ in our lives.
There are reasons I cried so hard when my parents came to pick me up, after what seemed like an agonizing eternity, from the Gitmo, I mean, Girl Scout Summer Camp. I went into this whole camping thing expecting to have the kind of fun that Hayley Mills sang about (”Let’s get together, yea yea yea!”) in the original classic Disney movie “The Parent Trap”, but nooooooo, it was more like “Friday the 13th”. Shudder. I still have nightmares about the whole ordeal.
I had never been away from home by myself, but hey, I wasn’t going to be lonely because there were other little hyper ten-year-olds, who, just like me, got suckered into signing onto this “I’m a Girl Scout, Get Me Out of Here!” reality gig. And that crying I heard at night wasn’t gonna remind me that I was homesick either.
Things got ugly pretty fast. The Camp Counselors, made it clear that there assignments were to torture and frighten us. They made us walk nature paths to pick up ticks and be bitten by millions of mosquitos. We went “snipe”-hunting, clicking sticks together along the way, hoping to find the elusive creatures, all the while listening to warnings of “watch for snakes.” Their campaign was working. I still watch for snakes. Shudder.
The torture was amped up. We were forced to do awful cleaning duties. The showers. We scrubbed the finish off of those fungal chambers with PineSol. I still hate that smell. If it was your day to clean the “Latrines”, you wondered if you could get out of that horrible job by pretending to be sick. I still hate that smell, too.
Those counselors really socked it to us when it came to our mealtimes. The “three Girl Scout bites or 5 Brownie bites” rule was to me the ultimate plan of evilness. The goal was to make sure we got our fiber, so prunes were served at breakfast. Can you imagine the sound of a room full of girls sitting at banquet tables, gagging their hearts out? Shudder.
Somewhere between all the scratching, hacking and scrubbing there were some moments where I treasure what I learned besides the important ones of survival essential to being a Girl Scout. I learned that I was capable of singing (I was picked to sing solo at Talent Night, although off key), to roast marshmallows and to discover that Pepsodent toothpaste tasted pretty good as a little snack.
When I was a kid I went to a summer camp and looking back, I do not know why in the world my parents allowed me to attend. I cannot remember the name of the church however it was a kids church and a bus would come around to neighborhoods and pick kids up to take them to the church. By the way I would never allow my child to get on a bus with strangers to go to a church but anyway. The church was having a week camp session and all of the kids in my neighborhood were going. I remember getting up early in the morning to get on the bus to go to camp. My parents sent me with about $15.00 which was not enough but I will get to that later.
When we first arrived to the camp I thought we were in another country somewhere. I had no idea where we were, and still don’t. But anyway we had to go in the middle of the campground and sing church songs everyday after exercising at the crack of dawn. First weird event, if you mess up on the song you had to kiss a pole. Yes, kiss a pole!!!! Then we went to our rooms which were cabins. In the morning you had get up make up your bed and stand beside it until the counselors/inspectors came. Every day the cabin who had the neatest beds would win a prize. Well, my cabin never won and you will see more about this at the end of the story. We would ride horses and exercise in the morning. We would go to bible study class and have outside competitions which were pretty fun. After the 2nd day I was out of money and had to resort to extreme measures. One of my fellow campers and I were sitting around starving for snacks and just could not wait until dinner so we thought why don’t we borrow some of the other campers snacks, we are sure they will not miss it. So we messed up all the beds to pretend someone broke into the cabins (which were in the middle of no-where land). And we ate some chips, cookies and drinks that did not belong to us. Well, our roommates came back mad because 1) they worked hard to make up the beds so we could win but we never did and they were ruined now and 2) because someone ate their snacks. So they asked us what happened and we said we don’t know it was like this when we got here and everyone was staring at me and I wondered why. One of the girls who was missing her chips said “wipe the crumbs from my chips off of your face.” We were busted and I will never forget that camping experience and I have never taken anything that did not belong to me again.
I have often been a chaperone at children and youth camps through church. My favorite things about camp are the kids and my least favorite…the kids! For example, when I was chaperoning a week of camp with my fifth grade sunday school class in South Georgia, I noticed one of my girls was not showering. I took her aside and asked if there was a problem. She said she didn’t need to shower since they went swimming at the pool during the day. One of the other girls overhead her and said to the girl “but the little kids pee in the pool.” Not what I would have said, but it did the trick—she took a shower IMMEDIATELY after pool time every day! My worse camp experiences have to do with teenage girls talking–talking—talking. All day, all night, when your tired old bones are already pained from sleeping on those thin cabin mattresses. You can’t wear out the mouths of teen age girls. Never volunteer to sleep in the same cabin. Sleep in your car if you have to, I say!
Every summer I would attend Girl Scout camp in North Georgia. I loved going to camp, but there was one thing I always dreaded: the swimming test. A few hours after arriving at camp, the counselor would call everyone to put on their bathing suits. Most girls were excited to put on their bathing suits and jump in the pool, but swimming has never been strength of mine.
The swim test consisted of swimming the length of the pool and treading water for 2 minutes. When it came time for my test, I dog paddled about half the pool and then just walked the rest of the length of the pool. I would then attempt to tread water for about a minute before I had to cling to the side or be pulled out by a lifeguard before I drowned. I always ended up in the beginner swimming group, which consisted of wearing a bright red bathing cap and staying only in the shallow end of the pool for the duration of the summer. I hated it because there were several years that I was the only girl who got a red cap. All of the other girls wore green bathing caps and would play only in the deep end of the pool. I had to stand all alone in the shallow end of the pool.
I became a camp counselor at the same camp while I was in college. One of the first things we did was take a swim test. It consisted of one length of the pool and 2 minutes of treading water. I had taken some swimming lessons while at college and hoped I was prepared for the test. I swam one length of the pool doing free style and then made it the full 2 minutes of treading water. Yes! I finally got my “green cap”!
Over my 61 years I have participated in many summer camps with the Boy Scouts of America, first as a camper, then a camp staff member, a camper at Philmont in New Mexico, and later as a Scouter. I have many fond memories of camps over the Southeast and especially here in Georgia.
However, the most memorable camp experience was my very first week of camp as an 11 year old Boy Scout. This occurred at the “Old Camp Bert Adams”. For those that are thinking about Bert Adams Boy Scout Reservation in Covington, that is not the place. The “Old Camp Bert Adams” was located where Cumberland Mall is now located. The office park adjacent and to the West of the mall was the center of camp activities. The lake that is in the middle of the apartments there was where I qualified for the Canoeing Merit Badge that first summer. Of course, in 1959, that area was a wild, wooded area apart from the city of Atlanta. No malls, no interstate highways, no 4-lane highways, and not much in the way of businesses existed.
The trip to camp started Sunday afternoon with a bus ride with my other BSA Troop 164 members all the way from Decatur to Vinings, as going through Vinings was the only access to the camp. Vinnings was an old rundown train station, and a couple of old houses on a very narow, twisted road. The bus trip seemed like an eternity. It was hot. It was crowded. It was loud. Not a very good start for the week I thought.
Once the bus unloaded at camp we were shown to our campsite which was made up of a number of adirondacks (three sided wooden structures with a wooden floor and a large overhanging roof). These adirondacks had three bunk beds so they accommodated six campers each. I quickly learned my first lesson of summer camp, “Every Man for Himself”, as all the experienced campers dashed into adirondacks and claimed their bunk. I was left behind with some other Tenderfoot Scouts to try to find the open spaces. As luck would have it, I found a bottom bunk open. I would later learn why no one else wanted that bottom bunk. The top bunk was occupied by a Second Class Scout called “Pinky” by the rest of the troop.
It seems Pinky had an aversion to things natural. Anything that moved was of interest to Pinky. While we spread out our sleeping bags and organized our packs and boxes in the adirondack, Pinky searched about the campsite under rocks and logs and found about six scorpions, three spiders, a lizard and a small garter snake. He brought them all back to the adirondak and placed them in a cardboard box located on his bunk.
That afternoon we had our physical exams and completed our swimming tests. Two laps of the pool, two minutes free floating, and we were judged as “swimmers”. Anything less were “beginners”. We were given our “buddy tags” which were hung on a hook with our buddy each time we went into the water. Finally, exhausted after all that had occurred that afternoon, we were lead to the dining hall where we would have all our meals for the upcoming week. Actually the food was pretty good. The most interesting part was the “bug juice” which was the cool aid that was mixed up in large quantities and seemed to end up covering most of the tables and campers before each meal was completed. In the dining hall we sang songs and performed chants that extolled the greatness of our troop to the others.
After dinner the first campfire of the week was awsome. An indian fired a flaming arrow into the stack of wood that immediately burst into flame and lighted up the entire area for the rest of the evening. Songs and skits followed with the campfire ending with a story. We then made our way back to camp through the dark woods. The first night did not offer much sleep as I wondered what would be in store on Monday.
Now Old Bert Adams was very hilly terrain. There were almost no flat spots on the property. There was one area that had been leveled to create a small ball field. There was also an adjacent Quonset hut used for activities during rainy weather. The parade ground in front of the old dining hall was also flat but very small. The flagpole was located in the center of the parade ground and all the troops assembled around the flag pole several times a day. In the mornings each troop was accounted for and the flag was raised as the bugler sounded the appropriate bugle call. Then the campers filed in to their assigned tables for breakfast. After each meal one camper from each table had KP duty and had to clean the table and sweep the floor.
In the evenings the troops gathered at the flag pole and stood at attention as the bugler sounded “To The Colors” as the flag was lowered. After dinner there was usually some free time to work on merit badge requirements, write letters or just rest.
During daytime, however, the hours were packed with activities with merit badge classes in Swimming, Lifesaving, Canoeing, Rowing, Hiking, Camping, Nature, Forestry, Cooking, Marksmanship and many others. Being a young scout I had not earned any merit badges yet. I was able to work on Swimming and Canoeing, and to go to the rifle range to try to qualify as Marksman and Pro-Marksman.
Pinky, on the other hand, took the Nature Merit Badge and spent the remainder of his time looking for snakes. The area proved to be abundantly blessed with snakes. As of Friday he had gathered at least 20 snakes which he kept in the cardboard box on his bunk.
Friday afternoon my shooting at the rifle range qualified me as Pro-Marksman. With my certificate in hand I excitedly ran up and down the hills through the woods toward our campsite to tell everyone what I had done. Suddenly I found myself hurtling through the air after tripping over something, and a large rock found my knee as I landed, creating a two inch gash. After making it back to the campsite my scoutmaster took me to the first aid center where I learned I was not the only patient. Another camper had recently swallowed a yellow jacket with a swig from a Coke bottle and it had stung him in the throat. The three of us loaded into the first aid director’s car and headed for Kennestone hospital in Marietta.
Now Kennestone was quite a bit smaller than it is now, and it seemed much farther away. Also along the way to Kennestone it seems like we only saw just a few other automobiles. It was nothing like the highways full of cars and endless shops and stores along that route today. At Kennestone I received my obligatory stitches after a long wait while they treated my suffering fellow camper. It was so late we had missed supper at the dining hall, so we stopped for a hamburger, then continued back to camp.
When I arrived at my campsite I found the troop had already left for the hike up Mount Atkinson and the weekly Friday campfire. I was very disappointed to miss this last campfire. There would be many more in my future. When my fellow campers returned to the campsite it was time for bed. We were all worn out from a very active week. Tomorrow we would be heading home.
That’s when I saw it. Pinky’s box of snakes on the top bunk was open. The flaps were obviously raised. Pinky checked the box and all the snakes were gone. He bagan a frantic search for his captives, but they were not found. OK, it was time to go to bed. My next thought was “I wonder if any of them found their way into my sleeping bag on the bottom bunk”. I certainly was not going to let the others know I might have even the first thought of being scared. It took every manley thought I could muster to slowly stick that first foot all the way to the bottom of the sleeping bag and feel around to make sure none of Pinky’s friends were there.
Even though the bag was clear, I could only lay awake and think about it all night. The next morning I was exhausted. We loaded up the bus and made it back home that afternoon, but the box of snakes was something I would never forget.
I was at camp when Elvis died. This wasn’t your usual camp by any means. This was a camp for children with special needs and I was a counselor to 3 girls with Downe’s Syndrome in upstate New York.
I remember that day well. We had no phones, papers or TVs in our secluded camp in the woods. Right before dinner, one of the rather larger male campers decided to play leap frog over my head in the parking lot and without my consent! The last thing I remember was hearing was my face as it smashed against the gravel. The camp nurse (who actually lived near by)began to clean me up but was crying uncontrollably. I was thinking, “Am I going to die? Is my face going to be scarred for life?” Then the nurse finally calmed down enough to tell me that Elvis was dead.
Up until that moment, my first week at camp was the best week of my life. My favorite memory was watching the campers who were wheelchair bound go swimming! Each camper wore a life vest and then they were wheeled directly into the lake and where they became weightless and free. That is an image and a moment I will never forget.
So every year when the media announces how many years it has been since Elvis died – I remember playing leap with a giant and swimming with the dolphins at camp… and that Elvis had left the building for the last time.
Every summer growing up, I attended Camp Cherokee at Cherokee Retreat Center near Cartersville, GA, which is operated by a group of Presbyterian churches – all in North GA. One of my fondest memories and best camp stories was years ago when I was a counselor. That year, our interim camp director was somewhat less than involved in the day to day activities, and liked to “manage” from afar. This was okay with us counselors for the most part, but we ended up planning and directing all of the activities for the children, electing a “head counselor in charge”, and generally leading the best way we knew how. Because almost all had been counselors before, it worked just like clockwork! That summer, we built the best team environment I’ve ever worked in to this day.
Having said that, that summer it rained every day because there was a hurricane remnant sitting over the state for weeks on end. Being a camp, most of our activities were outdoors, so this seriously crimped our style. Enter the creative genius of us counselors! What’s a fun activity you can do outside in the rain and not worry about getting wet? Slip n slide! Only, we didn’t have our own, so we made it out of a big blue tarp. Off we went to the field, where we and several other counselors proceeded to make a “mud pit” at the bottom of a small hill, placed the tarp so that you would have about 15 feet of sliding area, and grabbed all the dish soap we could find from the kitchens. Needless to say, the kids had a ball, and we spent the better portion of that afternoon getting completely muddy and soapy. 40 kids covered in frothy mud with their counselors right beside them and covered in equal amounts of mud is a sight to see. To wrap things up, we all walked down to the pool where we happily jumped in to clean off the mud, and ended up turning the lovely blue pool green. The caretaker was none too happy about the condition of the pool, and it took about a week for it to stop looking like the lake, but I will never, ever forget that experience! To all my co-counselors that summer, if you’re reading this….”MUD!!”
We did our quick trip to northest Georgia the end of last week since my wife is a teacher and had top start back to work Monday. It was great. Georgia students are in school in August. However, they get out by the end of May, which leaves all of June–when the weather is usually much better than August–free for vacations. Most of the schools up north don’t get out until mid to late June. We have taken advantage of that the last couple of years by going to places like Maine and the New Jersey shore in early June when their rates were cheap (because their students were in school, the places were much less crowded, and the weather was much cooler. Let’s keep our current school schedules.
Sorry for all the typos in my last post (two incorrectly spelled words and an open parenthesis). If I could go back and edit it, I would but this site doesn’t give me that option.
I didn’t mean to imply we should change school schedules — just noting that prices down here are cheaper in in August when we’re all back in school. Where did you go in Maine? We are considering making a trip up there too. How was the water temperature in June? Was it too cold to wade out into the ocean?
We flew to Boston and drove to Bar Harbor. We spent a lot of time in Acadia National Park but also drove up the coast to the easternmost point in the United States. The temperatures varied over the course of five days. The water was cold but you could wade. We went out on one of the sailing ships one afternoon and you needed a jacket when the ship got up to speed. There were no crowds except on the day one of the cruise ships made a stop in Bar Harbor and all of the people on the ship made their shore excursions.
Oh, they were laughing with me. It was all in good fun. I had to laugh at myself to get through that pain! The sad thing is, I have many other camp klutz stories and took several trips to the camp infirmary over the years . . .
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To my surprise, my brother-in-law offered to take our daughter on vacation with his family in a few weeks (to keep his daughter company of course). They’re going to Destin for five days, which gives us five days to do ANYTHING! I told my wife I’ll plan it and tell her how to pack. Thinking Vegas, San Diego or Martha’s Vineyard. All three have been on “the list” for years, and I’d like to scratch one off. What to do???
School just started today here in Tennessee. For those of us IN the B&B business, I can tell you when to get the best late-season bang for your buck–Come to the NE Tenn./NW North Carolina/SW VA Mountains. Plan your trip between now and October (that high season to see the leaves. More color equals more room cost and more traffic).
I personally think September is the most underrated month. Prices are moderate, crowds are nonexistent and the air is fresh, and dry. A few trees will begin to turn; the wildflowers are still abundant. Here in Mountain City, TN, the trees won’t be quite in fall color (but I think Atlanta’s fall leaves can be just as nice….). What you will find is lots of rural mountains, openfields, forests, a great lake still warm enough to enjoy (Watauga Lake), hiking galore and very, very fresh air. My own property comes in at $99-$169 per night. We serve a full breakfast and provide free in-room snacks making for savings. We also rent a cottage (for kids and dogs), as do many others. Mind you, THIS IS NOT GATLINBURG. We don’t have a whole lot of shopping “in the mountains.” You can go to Boone if you need some of that! Restaurants are nice (and moderate priced compared to “city” prices.) I’m exactly 300 miles from Five Points. If you haven’t seen this area, maybe it’s time to check it out.
Wow I enjoyed the story I remember going camping and always worried about something in my sleeping bag. This brought back those memories. Thanks for taking me back
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Arts & Crafts (the one to vote for)reminds me of my one and only camp trip. Somebody closed a door shut and locked it while my finger was in the jam! Lost the nail shrtly thereafter!
We go to New Orleans to EAT!!! From Commander’s Palace in the Garden District to local neighborhood dives and everything in between. The classics – Arnaud’s Antoin’s, Court of Two Sisters, Galitoire’s – in the French Quarter. Po Boys just about everywhere, incredible oysters at Acme Oyster House and fried or boiled seafood at Deanie’s. The best is a backyard crawfish boil at a friend’s home.
I spend some time in Seattle each year visiting family and my must sees are Mt. St. Helens, the North Cascades, the Boeing assembly plant in Everette, a ferry ride just about anywhere, the Olympic National Park with a trip up to Hurricane Ridge. I love SeaFair in the summer with the air show over Lake Washington – with the Blue Angels. Tulip fields in bloom in the spring, apple orchards in bloom, a ride along the Pacific coast. On a late night flight out of SeaTac airport I once saw the northern lights over Mr. Rainier! Mt. Rainier is awesome either up close or on a lovely clear day from anywhere in the Seattle area.
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Fussell you are brilliant! Once again you have stimulated the minds of America’s youth. Who would’ve though a Distinguished Professor could come up with such literary genious! Was this composed over hot wings and brews? Bravo Bravo!!! This rivals all poll training stories!
Congratulations, Ms. Swafford, and also to all the other finalists. It was a contest fairly fought and quite the pleasure. I hope you have a delightful trip to Ponte Vedra!
I LOVE the Ponte Vedra Inn & Club. And having a room on the first floor is like having the ocean in my backyard. I know I shouldn’t have, but I’ve often left my door ajar and just taken a walk or a dip in the ocean. And the rooms are SO romantic. It’s rough going there alone. I always stay there, not their newer location.
We plan family reunion vacations about every two years. There are about 10-12 of us usually, three generations. We have done several trips to Europe, including cities Prague, Vienna, Italy, the UK and Ireland (not all in one trip). We generally have a loose itinerary (other than which cities we’ll be in what day) and some days do things as a big group and some days as several smaller groups.
I would say this type of family/group travel is not for everyone. If you are more into laying back and relaxing, an all-inclusive in the Caribbean could be perfect. Beaches Resorts in Turks and Caicos and Jamaica are family oriented and quite popular with groups and reunions. A cruise could be another option – it is good for groups and kids as you can visit multiple destinations without having to unpack, hop a flight/train, etc. Plus lots of activities for all age ranges.
I have family all over the east coast and in the mid-west. There were about 45 of us on 1 side of the family (all immediate family) and we went to Gatlinburg/the Smokey Mountains. There are several places there that specialize in family reunions and the hotel we all stayed at had 2-3 bedroom condo/townhouse style rooms. With so many of us, this location was ideal – almsot everyone was able to drive. The resort had a great pavillion and golf course, and also helped us set up white water rafting for the whole group and horseback riding on the trails. As a plus for the less adventurous, it was also a short drive to the outlet malls in Pigeon Forge.
I also plan our yearly family reunion @ 25 of us. There are resouces to be found at http://www.ReunionTravelDirectory.com to find reunion friendly resorts, cruises or better yet a tour operator who can put the whole thing together. We usually alternate between domestic destination and international destination every other year..with kids, Disney is a great choice, looking for something “in the Middle” chicago is a great city easy to get to with soemthing for everyone (don’t come in February)
I think a return trip to your old stomping grounds in Athens would be a great idea! You wouldn’t believe how much is new, and the view as alums is always far different than you might have gotten as undergrads! Between UGA and Athens Clarke Leisure facilities, just about everything is free or nominal cost. Great new Hotel Indigo is opening just this week. Whether you pick Athens or another location, you can get plenty of free help from the local Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVB) or similarly-named tourism organization. In Athens, we help with room blocks, itinerary and tour planning, stuff to do, and know all the good deals and discounts to be found! http://www.VisitAthensGA.com
Without a doubt it’s Charleston, SC. The most spectacular out of the bunch is Grill 225 on East Bay Street. Executive Chef Demetre Castanas creates the most delectable yet memorable dishes including Veal Rib Chop and Jumbo Lump Crab Cakes. The setting, service and decor are simply out of this world.
Tristan is another Charleston staple that is now offering Three,Four and Six-Course Tasting Menus for great values. The She Crab Soup is the best that I’ve ever tasted here as well as the Duck Breast and Golden Tilefish.
On previous visits, I hit Chef Brett McKee’s Oak Steakhouse. I highly recommend Oak on so many levels. Lobster Shrimp, Macaroni and Cheese and the Steak au Poivre are the true standouts here.
I have held family reunions at the Extreme Polynesian Beach House on the west coast of Florida. The home is on a private 26 acre island that comes with all types of beach gear, kakaks, snorkeling gear and a large pontoon boat for your transportation. The home consists of six separate buildings -tahiti style and interconnected with a covered walkway. The home is a six bedroom and can accomodate up to 24 persons if you don’t mind a a sleeper sofa and murphy bed. It is large enough that everyone can find a quiet place to be alone or join in the group in the large living /dining building.
The best part I think is the location because it sits right between two towns that are boater friendly communities so you boat over to a restaurant if no one feels like cooking on the grill for the night or stroll the shops or public gulf beach. Swimming is great on site and comes with a boat dock and beach chairs.
I highly reccommend this for a family reunion. http://www.extremepolynesianbeachhouse.com
Lets see One week before it was back to school for my kids and decided on a last minute to get them away……so we did it we booked a trip to Disney neither I nor my kids have ever been and it was something I really wanted them to see and me too!!After seperating from my husband a year ago I decided it was time to move on and show my kids what fun was all about….So being our first family trip the three of us boarded a plane .( which by the way Me and my son has never done…believe it or not) and off to florida we went…We had the most amazing time I was more into I think then my 12 year old son…who was beat by the time we got back to our hotel every night….The 5 days we were there just flew by and I didn’t want to come home. we stayed at Pop Century Resort which was amazing to seeing as I had nothing to compare it to. What they had to offer and the feel of the place was so relaxing and the people I met from all parts of the world were great..we had the 5 day hopper so we took great advantage of it travelling to each park , besides the humid weather and the thunderstorms that came through it didn’t spoil our trip…Well the trip was incredible and unfortunatly all we have to show from it was our memories, because unfortunatly on our last night there I lost my memory card for my camera which held over 300 pictures of the parks and my kids with the characters we ran into in the parks, my son fortunatly got their autographs but we don’t have the pictures to go with them, I must say the staff at Pop Century was very good with us in helping us search the property looking for it ..but no luck I guess there really are heartless people in this world who found it and not return it to lost and found…never would have thought in a family resort those kind of people exsisted…So our first trip for the 3 of us was amazing , fun , and the bond between me and my children grew stronger, at least we have it in our minds not on a picture…….Disney is a place of dreams and wishes !!! My dream and wish is to turn back the time and relive it again for them!!!
My Parents were just up in Gatlinburg this past week and the leaves are slowly starting to change, we are heading up there october 10th so I am hopig it is changing even more. we are from Florida so we dont see leaves change here we ( my husband and myself) are both from up north but my kids hae never seen it. we are so excited
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You have named great mazes in Georgia and if you want to go another state check out the directory here. http://www.ruralbounty.com
I don’t understand why anyone thinks this is fun. What if you are lost in the corn maze and you have to go to the bathroom? I love Fall, but corn mazes are not on my list of things to do.
Corny Dude! Um, EWW!!! I think your comment is the worthless one. This is a legitimate concern. People take little kids in these mazes. What happens if the kid has to go to the bathroom and they are lost in the maze? Corn mazes are dumb.
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Left for what we thought was our dream vacation, as we have never been anywhere tropical. Left for Cabo San Lucas Mexico to stay at the VILLA DEL PALMAR resort Upon arrival we notice alot of construction all of which we were told there was none. To make this nightmare into a short story… Withing the first three days we were transferred into three different rooms each having there own problem. Air conditioning – smell- bugs etc. We asked to be transferred to our original time share resort which is on the same property., but there were no openings for at least 3 days. To pack up again and unload the refrig. is not what I had in mind.. So we all know the time frame here. We arrived on Thurs. Sept. 17th, we got into our final room on Saturday the g19th On Monday the 21st the fun begins… I woke up on Monday morning with a bite on my leg not really thinking anything of it until later that afternoon when it started to swell and become very sore. I went to report it ASAP to make sure who ever needed know about it knew about it. That night it got very swollen. I was told to go to the pharmacy downtown to see the on sight Dr. She glanced at it and prescribed three different meds. I showed the meds to our concierge in charge and she said it wasn’t the right meds. I had to go to the on sight Doctor and in doing so , had to go daily to have lanced so it could drain. On the first day of the doctors visit, I asked what he thought bite me and he said it is definately a SPIDER. we complained like you wouldn’t believe and were told due to the construction things happen. They also said that the rooms get sprayed every other day, 5 days under doctors care and in unbelievable pain. Oh yeah I was told not to drink, stay out of sun and rest!!!! I am in Cabo and this is what I get to do? 5th night was unbearable The morning of the 6th day the doctor had to come to our room and we wre told I needed to got to the hospital a sap . I spent 6 days in the hospital had six different surgeries , cancelled our flights twice and in the end was told we can’t leave until we pay $10,000 All along being told not to worry about it because of all the issues we had gone through and everything will be taken care of. Are you kidding me!!!!! Yes lady’s and gentlemen this is a true story and we are still dealing from the traumatic experience. I still have a hole in my leg, see a specialist her daily, lost my job and have no money coming in… Sound like fun? Sounds like a NIGHTMARE to me.. Let me know what you think.
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O.K. Down to earth. WOW! I am shocked at the budget that these other family’s have to work with. My family of 11 has $5000 to budget for a vacation. We want to go to disney. I know some of you are like no way. I have rented a beach house for $800 (five bedrooms, private pool, grill), tickets $2600 (estimation for base tickets), food to cook $500, hotel, gas, and food $1000 (while driving to and from disney). I know a lot of peoples idea of a vacation is to not have cook. I am ariving one day before everyone else, and preparing most meals. All we will have to do is heat and serve. I know each family will spend money at disney, and we do plan on eating out 2 days. I think with some self control we can stay pretty close, and have a magical time.
If you are worried about need to leave the maze quickly due to the needs of your children then head over to The Rock Ranch. They ask everyone to carry a flag and a have assistants in the field up in deer stands. They can direct you out quickly if needed.
Also, The Rock Ranch is owned by Truett Cathy. The people are friendly and there is LOTS to do.
I still think someone is bound to get turned on… and I am skinny… I cringe at the thought of some dude or chick (oh geez that’s worse…) becoming aroused from my body shape. Sorry but, I would feel alittle better if I was not constantly reminded of it by all these paranoid critics. Let them due their job. If your fat, be glad, and don’t worry, because most won’t be turned on and won’t start thinking dirty thoughts about you- so take it easy. But I want to start hearing that a machine is being used instead, that only projects, in the image, anything that is not actual skin (using something other than an xray, I would image), that could decipher the difference between skin and plastic and a machine for sleep apnia that is harmless and a machine for sleep apnia that has a bomb inside of it…. and a sharp knife from a butter knife….or just ban eating utensils all together, and make it obvious on websites and on site…… and…..stop saying “We’ve got a hot one!” for the love of god. You got your laugh. Now knock it off.
PS: Do you reeallly think that a pervert would actually get hired in such an occupational position as one involved in looking at naked pictures of young and adult Homosapiens? Not in this country- well, not with the American standard, at least.
Nancy is correct on that one. The Rock Ranch corn maze is adult and kid friendly. If you want it more kid-oriented go a little earlier, if adult oriented go a little later.
not true todd. I too was a non believer but then experienced ghostly encounters with my own eyes that could not be disputed. Dont be too sure, hey is that the spirit of your dead nana following behind you?
At the end of July, I flew from Denver, Co to Orlando, Fla, to meet my husband who drove down a week earlier. Our 2 week vacation was going to consist of All the attractions, and visiting family, going boating, just having a great vacation.
We left Orlando airport and decided to continue driving somewhere to spend the night, before we went to Miami. We found a hotel in Fort Pierce, had dinner and went for a swim in the pool.I had been in Florida for about 2 hours. After my shower, I was in the room and all of a sudden my leg collasped from under me. I couldn’t get up. Paramedics were called, I was taken to the hospital, I had broken my fibula in five places. So my vacation was spent, in the hospital, where I had a rod put in my hip, 1 week in the hospital, and 4 weeks in a rehab hospital, trying to get strong enough to fly home. I am still in therapy. The only Vacation Pictures I have to show are xrays, and pictures of my injury. The best part of this vacation is when I arrived home.
We are taking a theme cruise for Spring Break. Didn’t plan it that way, just so happened I found out after we booked. It is a baseball theme cruise, so I doubt my girls will be interested in attending any of the signings or sessions. We cruise every few years for their spring break, but as adult vacations go, we prefer our favorite resort in Jamaica. First class service, good scuba, and NO children allowed.
This year I’ve been to Aruba, Curacao, St. Maartens, St. Thomas, Barbados, Antigua, St. Lucia, St. Maartens, and St. Croix. In years past I’ve visited the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica, Puerto Rico and the Mexican Riviera. I’d recommend against Aruba, it’s just not that nice, and there’s not much to see. Of the European-controlled islands, it shows its poverty quite a bit more than most. I’d recommend against Cozumel and Cancun, too, they’re just not that fun.
If you really want to visit an island off the Venezuelan coast, try Curacao, it’s lovely! St. Maartens and St. Croix are also among my favorites; Aruba, Barbados, Antigua are among my least favorites — in fact, I’d recommend skipping any of the independent islands. One exception would be St. Lucia for its natural beauty, but stay in an all-inclusive resort there. There are a couple of lovely resorts at the foot of the Pitons. Hanging out in town is to subject yourself to panhandling like you may never have experienced, it’s pretty sad — that’s something that’s typical of the independent islands due to extreme poverty.
If you’re not very familiar with Caribbean destinations, try a cruise. That would give you a chance to get a glimpse of what they’re like. The best itineraries leave from San Juan, which isn’t that much more expensive or lengthy a flight than one to Miami.
In the last eighteen months I have been to Trinidad and Tobago (three times), Jamaica, and St. Lucia. Delta did have direct service to all three from Atlanta, but I think that has stopped, so take American to Miami for the shortest and cheapest flights. While I was in the Caribbean I stayed in guesthouses all five times and loved it. Staying among the locals was a gratifying experience, because I felt like I REALLY visited a foreign country, as opposed to an Americanized resort. Prices are typically $50-100 per night with breakfast and other perks. Getting around is a dirt cheap adventure as well, so do what the locals do and catch a taxi! Not once did I feel unsafe in the daytime in any of those countries, but I used common sense at night, just as I would would in any American city. Yes, there is poverty and crime there just like here but I found the locals to be respectful and polite without exception. Also, I ate the local foods and drank the local water with no problems. St. Lucia is a place of great natural beauty that is largely rural except around the Castries/Gros Islet in the north. Pigeon Island, the Pitons, and Soufriere are a must. In Jamaica I enjoyed the Seven-Mile Beach in Negril, with its numerous Jerk Shacks with delicious BBQ pork and chicken. Don’t forget to try the saltfish and ackee! Tobago is a quiet island with beautiful beaches, perfect for a romantic getaway. Trinidad, however, is busy and lively between Port of Spain, Arima, and Sangre Grande. I enjoyed Toco Beach in the east and the Pitch Lake down in the south. Unlike many of the other islands in the Caribbean, Trinidad has a thriving and diverse economy far beyond tourism and bananas. If in doubt just pick and island and go; you won’t regret it.
We have been to Aruba 3 times and really enjoy it. It is a desert island so it is not lush and green other than palm trees near the beach but this means is rarely rains and it is below the huricane belt so the weather is perfect year round and you dont have to worry about spending your vacation in doors. We like to lay on the beach and do water sports during the day and have a great dinner and gamble for a few hours at night and Aruba is perfect for this. There are a lot of great European resturants we really like and a few smaller but nice casinos. There seems to be less poverty on the island than others we have been to and we never feel unsafe. It is also very easy to get around with cabs. If you are looking for adventure or sight seeing it may not be the best spot but if you are looking for great beaches, great weather for relaxation you will enjoy Aruba
St John in the USVI. Caneel Bay Resort, Westin St John Resort are both great in different ways. Secluded, relaxing, the whole island feel without being too touristy.
ditto what caribbean chris said. although different folks for different folks. i’ve been to st maarten, trinidad and tobago, barbados, anguilla and jamaica. i always move with the local folks via taxi, eating places, clubs, etc. i have stayed in an all inclusive and while i enjoyed it more than i thought i would (basically for unlimited drinks lol), it did not compare with my b&b stays by far. i am longing to go to dominica, belize, and st lucia. i’ve always found good deals to everywhere i’ve gone. love the caribbean it is my locale of choice for vacation.
ABC was correct except I felt Antiqua was great. Chris I’m glad you lived past Jamaica. Aruba is not that great, but if you are going the natural bridge caved in a few years ago, but there is still a smaller one there. Also, at the light house there is an Italian rotissorie. That is excellent for a sunset meal & drinks. I agree cruising is the way. Just wish this economy would turn so I could go some more.
St. Lucia is very beautiful. The Pitons are breathtaking. There is a lot of poverty there but the locals we met were very friendly. We don’t have children, so we prefer to stay at all inclusives that are for adult couples only. I have a friend that has traveled to Aruba every year for the past 11 years. She loves it and recommends it but we are planning on Jamaica next. So many places to see, not enough time and money!
St. Barth’s is the only island in the Caribbean we visit. Tried USVI, BVI, St. Lucia, Aruba, Barbados, Curacao, and Jamaica. St. Barth’s is just more sophisticated. When we vacation, we want three things: A great place to stay, an unspoiled beach, and excellent food. The only downside is getting there. You have to go through St. Martin’s Julianna Airport, then get on a high-speed ferry or a beaver-prop. The transfer between islands is time-consuming and nauseating. The upside is the peace and good time you have when you get there. We recommend Salines Gardens for hotel. Eden Rock is also among the best. Any restaurant is great.
I have been to St. Kitts, Trinidad, and the Bahamas in the past two years. St. Kitts is the most laid back island. We stayed at the Marriott Resort and Casino, which has its own beach and cabanas. There are other much smaller hotels in the area, but none are directly on the beach. Room rates have declined considerably since we were there in 2007. The Marriott has 6-7 restaurants on site, access to a golf course, a casino, and the only ATM on the island that dispenses US currency. I was there for three weeks on a work project.
My trip to Trinidad was also work related, and yes Port of Spain is more typical of a major city. There are beaches in Trinidad, but you will have to travel from the metro centers. The last trip was to Nassau, Bahamas, also work related. We stayed in British Colonial Hilton Inn. Very nice renovated hotel in downtown Nassau, convenient to shopping and restuarants. Sandal, Wyndham, and Sheraton are on Cable Beach with much better beaches and views of the ocean. Many people choose to go to Atlantis, but you will pay a premium for a basic room, but there is lots to do at the hotel and complex.
I’m driving; but, we always drive. It’s a good thing that we don’t go too far. I don’t know why any family would consider flying if you can drive it within 8 hours or so. If you live in Gwinnett County and have a 10AM flight, you have to leave home at 7AM. Then, you have delays and then you get off the ground. Say you land at 11:30 and then you have to go to Baggage Claim. Then, you have to go get your rental car. Then, you have the hour or so drive from the airport to your destination. That’s a lot of work to save a couple of hours in the car. Unless I’m going to the West coast, I would almost always choose driving over flying. Way too many hassles invloved when you fly.
If it’s not within an 8-10 hour drive time, I’m not going. I will cook for myself and watch football in my own house on my own TV whilst sitting in my own favorite chair with my beverage of choice in hand.
I use the same rule-of-thumb (8 hour drive). In addition to the other frustrations you mention; I also avoid the cramped seating (I’m 6′2″) and possibly catching someone else cold/flu. Additionally, my trunk has yet to have delivered my luggage to Dallas when my car goes to Jacksonville.
8-10 hour drive here, too. But this year we are staying home. I would love to fly, but after paying $40 round trip for one checked bag of luggage so that my wife could spend a few weeks taking care of my mother after surgery, not any time soon. I thought cell phone companies nickeled and dimed you to death. Airlines are outrageous. It will get to the point that it was once was upon a time. Only the well to do can fly. The rest of us little people will have to to resort to driving or not going anywhere.
The airlines (at least the ones I fly) have figured out how to win! 1) They charge more for less and less. 2) They have crowded the seats together so that you are comfortable if you
weight maxmum 120 lbs, are 5 feet tall, and have no luggage (some charge now for having luggage(!); 3) You pay more now for a ticket with less options. The airlines gave themselves the rule that you can’t get your money back if you don’t fly the ticket you booked. Of course, you can’t book unless you pay – so you lose from beginning to end. I know someone who found out she was pregnant and couldn’t take the shots to fly to Asia because of her pregnancy, but Delta refused to reimburse her ticket ($x,xxx)! This needs to be changed! If you didn’t get the product (take the flight) you should get your money back! This is the way business works – except for the airlines. They made the rule and we pay the consequences. Service has gotten worse. seats are uncomfortable and too close together. I don’t want to drive everywhere; I like flying and getting to a new location. I also don’t realistically think with the way we are packed together in coach that in an emergency people aren’t going to trample each other. The aisles are too narrow to be safe in an emergency also. The public needs to address these issues with the airline industry. We all serve each other after all and are dependent on each other.
The cost of gas to drive 500 miles, for my car, is about $90 round trip, and the time is about 9 to 10 hours. Door to door, by plane takes between 5 and 7 hours. The ticket is perhaps $250. Let’s see, first there is the requirement to be at the gate an hour before the plane leaves. To get to the gate takes about 2 hours, by way of Marta train. The actual in flight time is 90 minutes. The time on the ground before the plane leaves, is never certain, and then there is the trip from the airport at the destination, by way of the auto rental office, adding another hour or two. So, flying is not much of a savings. Then there are the security philosophers and their imperious manners. Why suffer such abuse and even fear? And let’s not forget the noise and press of strangers. No, the cost of the ticket is just icing on the cake, just one more reason not to fly.
We are sucking it up and driving. 21 hours each way with four kids and a dog! The cost of a hotel, meals, leaving the dog behind, and gas does not compare to airfare for the six of us. I fly two or three times a year for pleasure, but hardly ever with the kids.
For the past 3 years we’ve been driving. Granted, ours is just 7 hours driving. But just before we stopped taking flight to our destination, a 90 minute flight took about 4 hours to reach the destination. We decided we are not flying anymore. With 2 kids and us, now it is cheaper and kids also get to watch TV for free while if we fly (if available on the airlines) needs to be paid by an arm and leg I suppose for that service.
Floating on a city block with six thousand other people does not appeal to me at all and I certainly would not consider it a vacation. Even if the ship is ginormous, you are still a captive audience with a limited number of options. With 6,300 people on board, just how long is that line to climb the rock wall anyway?
My guess is that some seniors with never find their way back to their cabins and will be found sleeping on park benches in Central Park.
Just because you CAN build a ship this large doesn’t mean you SHOULD build this monstrosity. It’s just too big and doesn’t even look graceful in the water.
This ship is borne of the massive ego of Richard Fain and his competition with Mickey Arison. They like to measure things.
I am old school- a ship should LOOK like a ship (Titanic/Queen Mary/Normandie style). As Cunard used to say “getting there is half the fun.” Now it should be “getting there is half the fun, the other half is waiting in line for buffet.” Heck, bring back the “grande dames.”
Question? Why would I pay almost twice the 2010 prices to be on the inaugural cruise, that will certainly have many kinks and training of staff to work out. I will bet most of the crew will still be finding their way on board. For my money (we have been on 13 past cruises) I tend to book on lines with better passenger to crew ratio (more crew, less passengers).
I am booked to cruise on Oasis in January and I can’t wait! I’m very excited to experience this massive ship and engineering marvel. I think she is beautiful. There will be so much to do….on this cruise, the ship will be the destination. I plan to zipline, watch a Broadway show, attend the cupcake decorating class and then relax on my quiet balcony. This ship has it all and yes, I want it all. The ports it can go to are the same ole, same ole, but that is not why I want to be on Oasis. I understand it’s not for everyone, and even I would not cruise on Oasis over and over again. Cruising can be so many different things to so many different people and this ship just added another option for cruisers. To each their own.
Those who seem so negative about this ship probably A)have never cruised before or B)can’t afford to, least of all on the Oasis.
I went on a cruise with RC this summer aboard Freedom. The ship was so huge, you didn’t feel crowded despite being among thousands of others. When I was at the bow of the ship early in the morning before most people were up, with the coast slipping by, nothing but the sound of the wind going by, I wasn’t thinking about Titanic or other old ships. I can’t wait to cruise on Oasis.
Different strokes for different folks. I’ve been on about 17 cruises & the worst cruise was great!! JW you are right I am jealous that I can not afford to go on a cruise right now. The prices are soooo great right now. I wish I had a spare grand or so & get to go on any cruise.
I guess I will just have to wait until the economy picks up & pay the higher cruise prices at that time!!!!!!
We like going to Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge this time of year. There are Christmas lights everywhere and the Dixie Stampede Christmas show is wonderful. One year we went to Dollywood and rode the train around the park after dark drinking hot chocolate and looking at the lights.
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The perfect gift for someone who travels is a piece of Victorinox Luggage. I own one myself. My brother travels and I went to the luggage store @ Northpoint where they are having the 125th Anniversary sale @ 20% off. Victorinox Luggage is never on sale. It’s a great deal for a great bag. I have been happy with mine for two years now. These are the people who make the Swiss Army Knife.
The luggage scale is the best idea.
Pleasure travelers always pack too much. Or buy too much on for the trip home. So if you have the scale you can avoid those extra charges. One trip will more than pay for the scale.
Also always pack a folding bag to put all those extra goodies your bought while on holiday. Carry it on and you have avoided the extra charges. Again one trip pays for the bag!
I always go to Mori Luggage & Gifts for travel-related gifts. They always have a great selection and they also have lots of neat gifts and games. Very friendly salespeople and good number of stores in Atlanta.
Even with the former security check, I was not very happy to fly. Security checks have no
uniformity, it is different in every airport. Now, with the added security check, it is going to be very
frustrating and I will avoid any plane trip possible. Extra fees from the airlines, poor service
in the cabin and exta security checks from the security etc make the trip very unpleasant.
I’m just scared of little brown men with beards on my plane. Two years ago on a Delta flight my wife and I eye watched a crazy sandman reading the Koran and while waiting to board. Mt wife freaked out, but I noticed about 5 Army MPs getting ready to board our flight – which mometarily calmed me. It turned out that crazy muslim guy was in seat 1A and the MPs were 15 rows behind us. I spent the entire flight ready to run up and take the guy out if so much as got out of his seat.
The problem with the Federal Government’s approach to the terrorism problem is that FIRST, they have not defined what we are fighting; and SECOND, everything that they do is reactionary.
Are they trying to insure that no so called terrorist ever causes harm in the United States? If so, they are more naive than I thought.
All that reactionary responses do is take more and more liberties away from us. Focusing efforts on commercial flights only means that, if you ever cut off every possible way for terrorists to down a commercial flight, [terrorists] will find something else. Did it ever occur to them, for example, that someone could hijack a private jet and easily crash it into a commercial flight??? The big plus for them would be that they would not have to stand in a 2 hour line at the airport.
The government needs to get competent people in charge. They certainly do not have them now.
Sir…my wife and I recently returned from a European vacation tlast month…and I have to tell you I’d rather have a root canal than fly overseas…esp. out of Atlanta. It’s almost like a conspiracy of the TSA and the government to discourage you from flying. I can imagine now how horrific it is to go through TSA lines now. Our government, since 2001, has been gutless protecting flyers from radical Islamic terrorists (see Mr. Obama and Ms. Napaolitano…it’s not too hard to say that phrase!)…why not profiling? Look at the poster child for liberals…FDR…did during WW II! He finally awoke to the realization that the Japanese were a Gothic-type enemy who would go to any lengths to get what they wanted. Why didn’t the Bush Administration and now this bunch of Chicago thugs running our country now not realize the same thing. Heck, Obama is from a city where the Mafia rules work best with dealing with being attacked…you hit me with a stick, I’ll get a knife…you use a pistol, I’ll use a shotgun!! Cruel you say? Politically incorrect? You bet!! Because these radical terrorists are hell-bent on their crusade…it’s based on religious beliefs. And just like David Koresh or Jim Jones, you can’t play nice guy with these people!! They’re coming again…I’m just surprised one of those al Queda groups hasn’t hit a shopping mall, a school, a college or NFL football game, a train, etc. The targets in this country are legion and with our current attitude that we can’t make life uncomfortable by profiling certain groups…groups that have done all the attacks by the way…we are absolutely and definitely sitting ducks. Will we ever wake up? After experiencing a trip in and out of Hartsfield to Europe and back…I doubt it. TSA is a joke really..until they start profiling like the Israelis, we’re in deep trouble. Oh two things…how many El Al jets have been hi-jacked or blown up in recent memory? And imagine the uproar if all these terrorist attacks had been done by white, Anglo-Saxon protestants???
My wife and I have decided not to fly anymore. Just too intrusive, too much hassle and we like driving anyway. We were going to Hawaii this spring to see a new family member but they will be here next year.
Every single time I have to be herded like cattle, yelled at unintelligible ghetto slang, take off half my clothes and remove my shoes so that the inept Terrell and Laquisha with their TSA badges can treat me and my family like criminals and/or 3rd-class citizens, it is clear to me that the terrorists have WON and succeeded in destroying what America once was.
Ronald Reagan would never have spent like a liberal in creating a government Gestapo of incompetence like the TSA.
Unfortunately, George W. Bush was NO Ronald Reagan.
The TSA can go burn in Hell along with Obama bin Laden. I am now DONE with flying.
I flew last over the Thanksgiving Holidays. It cost an extra 80.00 over ticket prices for my daughter ans I to take our luggage. On our way back home, security stole about 70.00 worth of skin care products and toiletries… I say stole becuase they were in small containers and had passed security checks when we initially flew. The fact that for all the hastle they gave us, they couldn’t catch someone carrying an explosive, speaks VOLUMES. I’m done flying. I refuse to contribure money to a system that is so broken. A major airline and airport industry shake-up is the only thing that will make me reconsider at this point.
(Besides, the airlines won’t accept your food-stamp debit card my husband & I helped buy for you with our tax dollars as payment for your airline ticket, so I doubt you would be sitting on a plane in the first place.)
You can take your Jihad and stick it where the sun declines to shine.
I think Savannah takes the cake as the most “European” city in the south. I would definitely argue that Arkansas doesn’t conjure up images of European sophistication and history, which is the main vision most folks have of Europe when they decide to make the trip.
I don’t think they should have to pay extra. Overweight people are should hve the same rights just like a thin or average HUMAN BEING. How would you like it if the airline told a thin or average person that you will have to pay for two seats cause no will want to sit next to you cause you are butt ugly and you stink??? $ow would you people like that? If you feel uncomfortable sitting next to a overweight person then buy a first class ticket. Why don’t you put yourself in an overweight person’s place.
Any designation of the most European city in the South that doesn’t include the words “new” and “orleans” comes up short in my book. Savannah’s great though.
Asheville is great if you must stay in the South and within weekend driving distance for skiing and mountain activities. In some ways it has a California college town type feel.
Savannah is Georgia’s most European-like city. Charleston and New Orleans are longer drives but bigger and probably complete the list of southern European-like cities.
On your way to Savannah A great historic city that is very walkable, you might want a side trip to a little piece of Americana Ol South style. Hawkinsville is only 20 minutes off I-16 and the houses and town are the real thing. The old Opera House has been restored and you will be amazed at the shops, especially Kimberlys. Its well worth the drive and a great break on the four hour or so drive.
As an Atlanta native, born and raised in Buckhead and Brookhaven, and having lived in Europe and Asia (to include the Middle East) for almost 15 years, I can’t say as I find any Georgia city “European”. It’s the difference between apples and oranges. Or any city in the U.S. south for that matter except pershaps the small percentage of New Orleans called the “Old Quarter” or “French Quarter”. I loved Europe. I lived in Cambridge, England/ Istanbul, Turkey/ Cologne, Germany, and Athens, Greece, amongst others but to quote Lewis Grizzard, I told myself that “If I ever get back to Georgia, I’m going to nail my feet to the ground”. What a wonderful place to live.
I spent 1/4 of 2009 in Savannah & Tybee. The historical areas of Savannah are so lovely and an authentic travel experience. Stay on Tybee for a change of pace and then daytripping into Savannah makes for the perfect getaway. Savannah is a gift to this state. Dine at Elizabeth on 37th, shop on Whitaker and on Broughton. Check out See Jane, Back in the Day Bakery (40th & Bull) and savor this quick trip rich with culture in less than a tank of gas. For lodging http://www.oceanfrontcottage.com
Also, a day trip from Tybee is Beaufort SC one of the most amazing towns on earth. A photographers dream. And another place that reminds me of Santorini, http://www.alysbeach.com soothing, fresh concept and there is nothing like it in the South. It’s a new town in the panhandle and it’s incredible.
What terms come to mind when you think about vacation? Carefree relaxation, Stressfree trip with family, hasslefree experience to unwind, etc.. Factor in travel via air these days and those terms change quickly. Why? Arrive 2 hours before your flight doesn’t work anymore- expect half a day at the airport. Pickup your ticket and straight to the gate is a thing of the past.- Standing in lines that are as long as the hallways of the Las Vegas MGM hotel. Being made to feel like a valued customer who is departing with their hard earned dollars.- How about security checks that leave you feeling like a prisoner coming off yard call at the big house. Get the idea? It’s simply not worth it. Instead, I’m spending my vacation money on a large screen T.V. and a more comfortable chair….
St. Augustine is a very walkable city and has more of a European feel than you might imagine especially on the south side of the square. Look for Denoel French bakery.
Don’t forget the coast around Brunswick, where you’ve got access to four barrier islands within minutes of each other: St. Simons Island, Sea Island, Little St. Simons Island and Jekyll Island. They’re all different and offer plenty of activities and choices of accommodations. And, they’re within a half day’s drive of Atlanta!
best western hotel in russelville arkansas—rooms are flea infested–asked for refund but was refused–these people (even the national headquater customer service) think that infestations are a feature–not a problem for the guest!
I have stayed at Southern Cross on more than one occasion. Lots of fun for the family. Fabulous food, lots to do and of course horse back riding. If you go in the spring, you can see the foals being born in the barn. I have gone by myself and with my daughter. All my stays have been wonderful. The family that run this place make you feel like you are home. I highly recommend this place
I would if we didn’t have family in rural Missouri. We get all the country we can imagine and only have to pay for gas and food. My husband has family with cattle and dairy farms. It’s not a B&B but we always feel at home.
Hey, (Hay!) How about just a day away from the city? I have a beautiful little farm just 10 miles south of the perimeter in Fairburn. Five Acre Farm. I open it up on Sundays for “Something Sundays”, where you will enjoy the best blues out of Atlanta…Nathan Nelson of Northside Tavern Fame, joined by another awesome blues musician, Jonathan Edwards…My idea is to let my farm be like the ultimate “Grandma’s House” on a Sunday afternoon. I have Icelandic horses! And the best instructor I know who was formally trained in England, Anne Turk, has just joined my “Something Sunday” team. Last Sunday, despite the ice and snow, I had fifty people here of all ages, listening to blues, learning about horses, and enjoying some food. I even had swing dancers dancing, and children playing with a wooden train set by the fire. I have a lovely farm house, and when the weather warms up, I have a bonfire pit and a large BBQ pavilion. The Newnan Times Herald did an article about it on Monday 1/4…on the front page!! “Owner Wants To Make Farm Like Grandma’s” I do all of this for donations. It is not a business. The farm is on the market, due to my settlement agreement from a divorce last January…If I couldn’t refinance, it had to go on the market. But after a month, I realized that I would go ahead and just do what I had always dreamed of doing with it. My heart is to reach out and have awesome people come together and enjoy each others company in an awesome place. I hope that anyone who has an interest in enjoying the country on a Sunday afternoon, will come to Five Acre Farm for “Something Sundays” on Hall Road, across from the Publix at South Fulton Parkway and Hwy 92 (technically Fairburn, 30213)
Follow the signs… : )
Hi there! Thanks for the nice article. I write a blog about farm stays at http://farmstays.blogspot.com/, with lots of links to good agritourism resources. Especially check out the new website sleepinthehay.com, a directory of farm stays in the USA.
I agree with Heywood, the husbands go to work, kids to school and the cougars to play with me. HA HA! I love mine in the tennis skirts
Keep working those long hours fellas, we’ll take care of your yum yum wives!
Can someone please explain all this Cougar crap to me. I get the part about the older women wanting the younger guy and all that, but the Cougar TV shows and the Cougar cruises, Cougar this, Cougar that. I think it’s all pretty stupid and a rest of time.
If the theme cruise was called “Old rich men and 20-something girls” no one would bat an eye. The onboard shops would make a fortune in Viagra and jewelry sales.
Wow, so there’s someone else out there who’s never gotten into reality shows? Except for a few episodes of Cops way back when, I’m proud to say that I’ve never watched a reality show. Most of what’s on TV is a nothing but a bunch of crap these days.
That companies think they need to promote this kind of behavior to increase business is pathetic. They should fire their business development manager. As for a cruise, the one’s I’ve been on had at least 2500 passengers on the ship. I don’t think 300 single older women and younger men from a “cougar group” would stand out from the rest of the passengers, many many of whom are single older women and younger men. Good for Carnival.
I like the notion of cougars coming after me. Only problem is that I’m 65 now, and the thought of being cornered by an aroused 89 year old cougar holds no charms for me. Guess I’ll have to be content with younger women. Shucks.
We have operated a farm-stay on our 335 acre farm and ranch in Fredericksburg, Texas for a year now. We offer two two-bedroom log cabins overlooking our farm and neighboring farms. We raise heritage livestock and a market garden. http://www.agaritacreek.com.
TC….. your a retard. They buy first class where the seats are bigger, not to mention they would not want to sit uncomfortabley for a long flight. and when they fly as a team they charter a plane. It does not matter. FAT people should have to pay for to seats. its not my fault they eat to much and have no self control and are lazy….. why should i get cheated out of my seat cause i am healthy. During the holidays i had to sit inbetween 2 fat people on a southwest flight there fat ass arms where in my seat i had to lean foward the whole flight. how about this. if 2 fat people fly together they can just buy the middle seat if the plane has 3 seats in a row. i know some are different. how is that for having a heart. ahhhh lose the wieght and it would not be a problem fatso.
FAT PEOPLE EAT THIS: you guys are crying cause the airlines do not accomidate for you being FAT, why should they. the majority of people that fly fit in there seats. why should normal people that take care of themselves get punished for the ones that are fat lazy slobs that have no self respect. If you dont want to be emmbaressd then buy a first class seat and stop crying. think about it this way you will be getting better meals atleast. I dont see why you guys are crying about this, stop trying to pull the FAT card. oh what cause im fat i have to pay more than every one else……HELL FREAKIN YES YOU DO. let me sit on your arem the entire flight and see how you like it. not to long ago i was taking a flight back from AZ. and got stuck in the middle of 2 huge people. and i had to lean foward the whole time. Now that was not fair. i paid for a seat to sit and lean back in. Not just the lower part of the seat. Why did the fat ass people get there seat the isle the window and most of my seat. hell no. you fat people need to pay for the seat in the middle. have you no self respect when you fly. why would you want to be talked about or looked at when your arm is overlapping the poor person next to you. thats freakin nasty. you guys are crying about how you always get looked at funnyand talked about… well wake up and do somthing about. either one lose the wieght, or two do the right thing and buy the seat next to you so you dont get called out at the airport. have a lil self respect. You people….yes i said you people FAT PEOPLE need to buy another ticket or fl first class. stop looking for a hand out. and stop eating so much. its not my fault you cant stop feeding your face. bet your eating right now, saying OMG i cant (bite) believe this asswhole (bite) some one needs slap him (bite slrrrrp) i am not fat, i cant help it, it is a medical condition.(bite/swallot) ….. yea freakin right. they should put a row of seats by the check in counter and if you fit then your good to go. and if you hang over then pay for that seat to. kinda like the carry on bag thing, hey again its not our fault your fat so why should i be uncomfortable. i paid for a full seat not a fat arm in my seat with a lil love roll. if your reading this and agree please just say amen on a comment and show the fat people that its not our fault they are fat.and if your the fat person getting mad at this then maybe i highered your heart rate enough for you to burn a couple calories and you welcome, too bad i got you so mad that you had to turn to a twinkie….. FAT PEOPLE SUCK….
you people are too funny! nasty but funny! my husband is taking me to hooters for my dinner the night before valentine’s because on valentine’s too many people will be out. I want to eat, he wants to look, what better valentine’s gift could you give? Valentine’s is for both people so why not make them both happy.
I found a good price for the Glenn Hotel on Quikbook.com. Has anyone ever booked anything through that site? I would love some feedback. It seems so much cheaper than other sites.
I had a hot hookup once at the old Clermont Hotel on Ponce, in the disco 70’s. It was during the time when phone numbers were published in Creative Loafing in the “Personals” Section, do ya’ll remember that? The Clermont had a couple of rooms with vibrating beds and you could rent the rooms by the hour (those days are gone, thank Goodness) but fun while they lasted! Then we would go to Mothers, The Prince George, Mrs. P’s or The Gallus lounge for afterglow party……. Where, o where, is the Gallus??
I was in China recently, and stayed at or visited a half-dozen 4 & 5 star hotels. Every one of them had the same kind of shower/bedroom set up – and it wasn’t pitched as sexy. I was told that it was a way to allow for more light into the bathroom. Pretty good idea if you ask me (and sexy too!)
Wow, greatATLguy…havent thought of the Gallus in years…you could usually find most anything you wanted there…Sunday brunch was a great big fun drunk time! It was an ATL institution back in the good old days of the 70s80s til AIDs brought much debauchery to a halt…
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That’s all I grew up going to in the 70’s and 80’s along the gulf coast of Florida,from Clearwater to St. Pete Beach. I have lots and lots of very fond memories of them. They were much more quaint and cozy than the big high rises of today and you always met some friends, usually even with the owners. Also when you would ride down Gulf Blvd you could actually see the ocean. Now all you get is a glimpse through all the high rises. I sometimes miss my childhood years and all those little motels. And more than that I really miss all the small attractions Florida had. I would love to revisit that part of my life. Things just seemed so much simplier then.
The Plaza Beach Resort on St. Pete beach in Florida is great. It’s on Gulf Blvd surrounded by high rises although it’s only 2 stories. Not sure when it was built but it is very retro. The rooms are very clean and the staff is very friendly and helpful. It right on the beach with some nice amenities including a pool, shuffle board and even a little 3 hole minature golf setup. Lots of shopping and food nearby or some rooms offer small kitchens if you want to do it yourself.
There was one on St. Simons, and we stayed there the first time I went to the beach. It was 1953 and it was up near the Coast Guard station on East Beach. I’m not sure when it was torn down.
I would love to stay at one…sounds like just the place to actually RELAX! There are still a few in Northern Michigan along Grand Traverse Bay/Lake Michigan, but sadly they too are being replaced by mega condo/hotel resorts. So sad.
I tell people all the time who buy timeshares or book lavish vacations to resorts that they have no idea what they are missing out on. I love motels. I travelled the whole US for a year when I was in my 20’s and never had a clue where I was staying until I got there. Now I’m in my 40’s and my husband and I still never make arrangements to stay somewhere when we travel unless it’s for business. Whether it’s to Niagra Falls Canada where the motel owner threw in free meals to their little cafe or to the coast of Oregon where you could open your door and walk straight to the ocean they are fantastic! Some of the most generous people I have ever met owned motels and were willing to look kindly on 2 young people who could barely scrape together 20 bucks for a room and knocked off 5 dollars just to make sure we had enough to eat on too. I am so happy to see that they are coming back so strong when I never knew they had fallen out of favor in the first place. At least not with me!
For years we stayed at a great little place at Panama City Beach called the Beachcomber. Hurricane something came close to tearing it completely down and we started staying in Mexico Beach. This past summer I rented a hugely expensive house for us and all the kids and was laying on the beach and noticed what looked like the old Beachcomber. It was. Someone saved it and I think I’ll rent the whole thing next summer!
My wife and I stayed in one on the PCH about 11 years ago. We took a two week trip from Denver down through Colorado, Arizona, and Nevada and then from L.A. up the PCH to Sanfrancisco. We stayed in this mom/pop hotel just south of the Monterey Pennisula and could hear the ocean all night.
The next morning we walked down to the beach to watch the molting sea lions. Best part of the trip and there were a lot of really good parts of that trip.
Used to stay at a great little “mom and pop” called Aaron’s By The Bay. It was right at the intersection of the bridge across Appalachicola Bay to Appalachicola and the bridge that went out to St. George Island. They were putting money into it and renovating it in the early 2000’s, but now believe it has closed for good. It was a classic motor court.
We used to stay at a place called Seagrove Villas. These were individual units vs a motor court but the same sort of casual atmosphere. Don’t know if it’s still there or not, but a great place.
I have stayed at the Cavelier in Kill Devil Hill, N.C. many times and consistently found it very clean with all of the amenities that I needed for a stay at the beach. The location is amazing and the rates are reasonable. Ultimately, when you are at the beach, the majority of the time is spent out of doors so the simplicity of the rooms is not a problem.
My partner, his parents and our four dogs stayed at The Postcard Inn over Christmas and give it a mostly resounding thumbs-up. The original rooms in the two-story section are small and nice (though not each one is unique as written) but the air conditioning apparently didn’t get the upgrade. It was steaming, even at Christmas. We got moved to a cabana room overlooking the massive pool and it was fantastic. Each room has a small yard with a hammock and a nice, large room. The poolside bar(s) weren’t open but looked wonderful and it has a great stretch of private beach before the public beach…very wide for the gulf coast. The public areas area extremely hip and the on-site restaurant is great and reasonably priced. We will stay there again….in a cabana, that is.
My family and I have stayed at the Sea Oats Motel in Destin a few times, and can give it a huge thumbs up. Other than a lack of parking, it’s great. Stay in a motel room, and you’re five steps from your balcony to beach sand. Not a true motorcourt, but definitely the same idea…and we loved it! Cheap too…you bring your own towels/sheets to the office and swap em out, and save a bunch!
Try the Sea Breeze Motal in Pacifica, CA on Highway 1 south of SanFran. Right on the water – and the best food (Crab Melt on Sourdough!) and live bands next door at Nick’s. It’s a slice of heaven with a small town feel and close to everthing in the Bay Area.
I miss the little things like motor courts and drive in theaters. Granted, it was before my time when they were in the heyday, but the idea of getting away from it all still attracts me.
I stay in one quite often, the Sea Horse, in Neptune Beach, Florida, one of Jacksonville’s beach communities. It is classic…and their Lemon Bar is a legend in the region, its opening…BEACH FRONT…signals the beginning of the season for beach goers. Just around the corner is Pete’s Bar, a dive that is THE meeting place for all those who love cold beer and a cool place. Neptune Beach and Atlantic Beach share their main street and a host of wonderful bars and restaurants…all within a couple blocks of the Sea Horse…where every room is ocean front and coffee is fresh in the lobby. It doesn’ get any better for those who want to park the car outside their room and enjoy a classic Florida beach experience. If you go once, you’ll go again…and, don’t forget to stop by Pete’s for a cold one, preferably late, very late in the evening.
Jim, my parents started staying at Sea Oats in Destin about 2 years ago and now go twice a summer…they love that it’s on the beach, they can request the same room each time in advance…we used to stay at the El Governor at Mexico Beach back in the 80s & early 90s…the actual one-story motel, before they built any additions…in fact, it was when the beach access was a big sandy hill, no wooden steps, stairs, or anything! My parents would take myself and my two sisters, stay in a room with a double bed and ask for a roll-away…kitchen in room, only time of year my mom would make grilled ham and cheese sandwiches for breakfast…when we got older, my parents would let us bring a friend and we started staying in the two condos on the end…still love Mexico Beach, Tommy T’s and the Shell Shack!
It’s not overlooking the beach but Lake Blue RIdge, it’s a small place on Old Hwy. 76, which is the scenic route, has been renamed the Blue Ridge Lodge and R.V. Park. We went there and stayed in several cute rooms with different family members over July 4th and took the open top train to Tennessee. The town is great. Someone recommended it because it was very budget priced and the rooms were all renovated. The website is http://www.brlodgervpark.com, I would stay there again!
Tradewinds Motel in Panama City Beach, Florida. We stayed at several motels there over the years, but we always came back to Tradewinds. We travelled with friends and their families, and it was special.
Wow, great feature piece! These kinds of places are WONDERFUL, and many times the service and quaint feeling is much, much better than saving 10 bucks at some chain hotel that has zero charm and warmth.
My family has stayed at a family-owned motel for GENERATIONS in Daytona Beach Shores, Florida… and I do mean “generations.” My grandparents started going to a place called Shoreline All Suites Inn back in the early 1950s, when my mother was just a baby. The place was owned by a very nice fellow named Mr. Molnar. Over the years, my grandparents returned again and again and again… every year, then as they retired in the 1980s, sometimes twice a year, then they would stay for a whole month, then one month in the spring and one in the fall. My mother, aunts, uncles, cousins would all go on various trips… when my mom married my dad, they went on close-to-home vacations when my brother and I were young, but when we were old enough to appreciate an 8-hour car trip, we started going there as well. Now, my wife and I vacation there every summer, and my parents — close to retirement age themselves — still take my grandparents down every spring.
They still visit Mr. Molnar, who sold the motel about 15 years ago to his son, who is my age and still runs it today. The place has been renovated and upgraded some, but it still retains the same look, feel and charm that I remember as a kid. It is now surrounded by numerous high-rise hotels and condo units that have replaced similar family-style motels, but Shoreline still does great business and is still a wonderful destination. It has both regular 50s-style motel rooms, connecting suites, and even unique cottage units — in fact, the cottages served as the home offices and officials quarters for the first few Daytona 500 stock car races back in the 1950s.
If you would like a small, quaint, family-style place that is literally a few steps from the beach when you’re in Daytona, look up Shoreline All Suites Inn… the staff is warm and personable, the rooms are clean, the atmosphere is wonderful, the rates are competitive, and the charm is unique.
We went to Ober Gatlinburg Feb 6th. The skiing was great. I’m not a very experienced downhill skier, so it was fine for me. Close and inexpensive. I don’t think I would have gotten much more out of traveling halfway around the country and spending 4 times as much. We got lucky as far as the weather, a dusting of snow the night before we skied.
I’ve stayed at the Postcard Inn and its all its cracked up to be. The renovation put money where it needed to be from a functional perspective. Great beds, latest flat-screen TV’s, awesome outdoor sound system, killer pool, and a rockin’ restaurant. Bathrooms didn’t get a facelift, but they did replace all the plumbing, so while it may look like the circa-60’s bathroom of your youth, the shower throws off some major water pressure, which is all I care about. They were very deft with the PCI beach bar, formerly the institution known as the Swigwam, and kept all the decor and updated the bar machinery. What a FANTASTIC spot to have a drink and watch one of the best sunsets around. And how about value..beer and a burger for under $10. That’s a stimulus package!
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I don’t know what the hell your problems are. I fly a few times a month to aerodromes from the size of JFK to “Hootersville Intl”…max time in line around 15 to 20 minutes…never had a problem.
Is all the TSA stuff somewhat intrusive and perhaps a little inane? I would have to say yes…BUT…it’s all we got. If some brainless moron wants to start in with the “sheeple” stuff, go right ahead, shtick-for-brains. While you complain about your rights being violated, the rest of us will be tending to our business.
We’ve become so damn spoiled and demanding; just like infants who, at the first hint of discomfort, start crying, all we care about is our personal comfort.
1) no need to obey traffic signs, they just impede your freedom to do as you please. To hell with others, you’re special…don’t let others get in your way.
2) never subject yourself to the humiliation of having to stand in any line. Once again, you’re special, and shouldn’t be expected to subject yourself to the inconveniences with which others must contend.
Need I go on, people? Just shut the hell up, know the simple rules, and do it!
I have spent my entire life enjoying Sea Island as a visitor and the many friends we have made there. We have loved it so much that my wife and I bought a vacation home there in 1975. We have known all three generations of the family that owns the resort. While the first and second generation of this family had an acute understanding of the needs of its customers, it is clear the third did not. Many changes were made to the operations and facilities in an effort to make it more “posh”, but less accomodating. In doing so new management did not fully appreciate the marvelous qualities Georgians possess – that of not being snobs. This move towards exclusivity (whatever that means) has only alienated us Sea Islanders from most of the year-round people who live in the area. This is sad. I think it is very possible that the new owners of the Sea Island resort will realize how important it is to better integrate ourselves into the community (as we once were), restoring some of thewonderful tradtions now gone, while removing some of the obstacles that have become prohibitively expensive to maintain. Let’s hope things get better!
I have many fond memories of the Cloister of yesteryear. Haven’t bothered to go back once it was “improved” as it seemed management was interested in a different clientele. Notice they advertise heavily in the NYT – maybe it’s the monied New Yorkers they’re trying to entice instead of the regulars folks who made it the wonderful place it used to be.
I grew up in Brunswick, just a few miles from Sea Island and St Simons and even spent one summer pushing a lawnmower for the Sea Island Company. It was interesting spending that much time up close to the “rich and famous”. One day, Mrs. Sanders, wife of our long ago governor, brought us something to drink and talked to us. The American Cancer Society relay for life had events on Sea Island and aided in raising thousands of dollars to fight cancer as my mother used to work for the cancer society. Old money people were always friendly while new money people were snobbish, usually. Hopefully the island will retain its charm and beauty.
I have vacationed at Sea Island for years, first as a youngster and then as an adult looking for that wonderful slow pace and hospitality of Sea Island. I was there last week and although I enjoyed the golf courses – this special place has not been the same since before the G-8 summit. The third generation did a great deservice to the history of the resort by not being better stewards of this special place – instead greed and arrogance took over. They only looked at the upside and never contemplated a downside case to their models. Shame on those banks as well for indulging Bill’s folly that put the resort in jeopardy. I hope they find someone that will restore Sea Island to it’s roots.
As a resident of St. Simons Island for fourteen years, I find it sad that Sea Island Company is having hard times, but I promise the beauty of this area is still intact. I don’t know where you are finding the national chain stores, but I don’t think it’s on SSI or Sea Island. Yes, they are in Brunswick, but we are happy they are, for it allows more convenient shopping. We do have some chain restaurants, but they are needed to feed the tourists and locals. The family-owned restaurants are still around.
Please stop trying to paint such a bleak picture and scare off visitors to this beautiful island.
Count me in as one who grew up in Glynn County – Brunswick/St. Simons. As a teen I spent a summer working for the Sea Island Company. Other than a source of part time employment and a nice place to take a Sunday drive to look at the “cottages” Sea Island didn’t play much of a role in our lives. (Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the Sea Island Dances I attended as a teen during the disco era!)
When we moved to SSI from the Atlanta area in the late 1980s, Sea Island still had the “Old Charm” which was an easy going pace. Both of our sons worked for Sea Island during the summers and they also attended the weekend dances for the teens. Both sons learned to dance and also learned manners of how to escort young ladies. They were welcomed by Sea Isalnd Mgt. so there would be enough young males there dance with the young girls.
One son worked in the fine dining restaurant and waited on politician’s families (Carl Sanders) and celebrities (John Travolta). The other son worked in the old Beach club as a cook and waiter. They had some great times during those years.
We also had a membership card (free) where we could actually get on the island and eat dinner which we never actually did. We also got all of the flowers for our son’s dates at the flower shop. We also could ride our bikes out there any time we wanted.
Too bad it went exclusive and catered to the billionaires. When they finished the renovation to the Cloister and built the security gate, that was the end to the “old Sea Island.” There are not many people that could afford over $1,000 a night for a room. So, they built a beautiful resort but who could afford to go there except billionaires.
Too bad they ruined the old for the new. They ruined the charm by making a resort too exclusive.
Part time Sea Island Resident has nailed it. As I understand it, this fantastic company (Historically) had no debt to speak of until current management/generation undertook it’s “exclusive” vision which clearly abandoned it’s roots. And how the heck did it’s lenders think it was a sound financial plan to have something like 3 times (or more) per key/ room cost over an average Four Seasons or Ritz Carlton? The recession has claimed many real estate victims: Sea Island, enabled by lenders with stars in their eyes, seems to be a victim of it’s own design. Having said that, I sincerely hope that this wonderful Georgia institution survives with the assistance of a deserving investment group.
My family and I began staying at the Cloister three decades ago. I considered my little peice of heaven when we were there. We were not their biggest customers but I think we were good customers. We probably stayed there three times every five years like many other Georgia families. When they tore down the old buildings and started chaarging a thousand dollars a night they threw out all of us like old garbage for the rich A-Rab and European money. I hop Bill Jones burns in hell.
I lived on St Simons in an area close to Sea Island and Frederica Roads. I did not like it when Glynn County gave much of Sea Island Road to the Sea Island Company which promptly built a barricade just before the bridge that so many people used to fish, crab, throw a shrimp net and just view the marshes. In exchange, Sea Island Company contributed to a new pier on the west side of St Simons, but it was just not the same.
Sea Island residents could keep their privacy and safety concerns, but that causeway and bridge should be returned to the people.
Maybe the new owners will tear down that barricade and allow people (who helped build the bridge with their tax dollars) use of the bridge again. Maybe the new owners or Glynn County would build sidewalks/bikeways alongside Sea Island Road out to the bridge so others could enjoy the view across the marshes.
My bride and I had a blissful honeymoon at Sea Island in the days of the old Cloister. While our kids were growing up we were more likely to vacation at a Pawleys Island area beach house or camp at Cumberland Island. Recently we had a brief visit to Sea Island Lodge for a meeting. It’s nice, but not the same as the classy old Cloister.
My theory is that Sea Island started down the road to perdition when they put TV sets in the rooms.
I grew up vacationing every Summer on Sea Island (for past 38 years). It was the perfect destination for Atlanta families, and I could always count on seeing friends and making new ones. Now, however, it is just like going to a Four Seasons or Ritz. It’s nice, but impersonal. Most visitors are not local, and you certainly don’t make friends like in the past. There is no reason to return. They’ve outpriced most Atlanta families, and it’s overly-exclusive attitude appeals only to new money. Too bad.
Over hyped and over priced. Sea Island has always been a pleasant resort to gather with family for a relaxing short vacation. As for the beach and location…5 stars it is not … and never has been. Why bother with other’s folly. Sea Island will go forward under new owners with a more realistic perspective of value. Yes, Sea Island is being deflated in prices and self imagine. All for the better.
I am likewise from Glynn County and worked at Sea Island Co for 3 summers during school.
As a bartender at the old Beach Club, I served and talked to a wide range of guests, from the members I knew to the guests from Atlanta and Europe. The new Cloister was widely viewed as too impersonal and expensive, since if you were considering getting 2 rooms there, you might as well consider renting out a cottage from the rental pool. This is emblematic of Bill Jones’ lack of listening to his guests and members, and more about his ego. One thing that particularly surprised me is that when planning and designs were being drafted on the new Beach Club, the staff was widely overlooked for suggestions and ideas on how to make the new Beach Club even better than the old one. While the new Club might have more pools, it lost the relaxed, casual of the old Beach Club.
I could not tell you the number of quality managers whose backgrounds were from Hilton, Ritz, etc. that were run off from the Beach Club due to frustrations with how the operation was run. There were several instances where BJ3 would personally override a popular guest item when he simply didn’t like how it was perceived.
My wife and I vacation every year on St. Simon’s. A few years ago we decided to treat ourselves to lunch at the Cloister on Sea Island, only to be told it was not open to the public. We have been lucky enough to travel other places and have enjoyed dining at the Breakers in Palm Beach and even the luxurious Cap du Eden Roc on the Mediterranean at Cap d’ Antibes in France. We were disappointed that we could not lunch at the Cloister, but now think that may be their problem. It’s hard for me to have any sympathy for their financial situation, when they could have made good money off of us in the past and possibly the future. We will still go to St. Simon’s as we always do, and we will always consider Sea Island off limits to riff raff, like us.
My husband and I moved our family to St. Simons in the 80’s to enjoy a more relaxed way of life. When friends and relatives would come to visit, a drive across the Sea Island causeway was always part of the entertainment. A slow trip down the drive to see the cottages and dream of “someday” after our ship comes in, or winning the lottery, which cottage would we want to buy? Even enjoyed a night at the old Cloister hotel, courtesy of a client, and several meals at the Clositer and Beach Club. The gate put an end to the drives down the main drive to dream about “someday.” It is such a shame that greed and the desire to be among only the very, very rich and famous has now come to where it is today. Billy Jones, I’m sure will never suffer hard times personally, but he has put an end to all of the extended family that relied on Sea Island as their primary source of income. Can you imagine how welcome he is at the Family Thanksgiving Dinner… about as welcome as ants at a picnic!
We still vacation at St. Simons. Used to like Hilton Head but it got to big and crowded. St. Simons is more comfortable now. It’s now our favorite place for a weekend at the beach.
Almost a native – I have a friend who was a member of the extended family and retired a few years ago at the age of 35. Have not heard for him in years. Have to wonder.
As a small B & B owner for 15 years in Brunswick, I had the opportunity of meeting travelers from all places. Some of them even stayed with me when there was a function they had to attend on Sea Island. They stayed with me because of the rising prices. Others who had visited Sea Island years earlier wanted to splurge for an anniversary or birthday by going for dinner. Imagine their surprize when they were told they could not have dinner unless they were members or guests. They felt as though they were being treated as bad children. So many tinmes my gueats would try to take a ride to Sea Island only to b turned away at the gate. My husband and I used to enjoy quiet Sunday afternoons after our guests left by having a late lunch at the Retreat Club House (now caled the Corn Barn). It,too, was closed to non-membrs. How many times can you turn people away and expect them to come back. From what I have observed of the area, those businesses that don’t consider the locals, don’t make it. Even Sea Island members stopped going to the members only restaurants and started frequenting the fine restaurants on St. Simons because the food and the atmoshere were better.The Jekyll Island Cub became the place of choice for elegant weddings and well as weddings and special events by superb caterers like Straton Hall. Perhaps we can look at the bright side. We in Brunswick & the Golden Isles are survivors of sorts. As we tighten our belts, Sea Island is loosing their shirts. The end of an era -perhaps. The beginning of a new way for all of us – I think so.
So many residential and commercial developmental changes have taken place back home since I moved to Atlanta. Some good decisions, but mostly bad. I grew up down the street from the south-end fire station, which was housed near the King & Prince. My aunt took me with her during the summer to help housekeep for the wealthy part-timers. Back during the early 70’s as kids of color, we were shunned from socializing with children of guests. We only wanted to play with them at the beach, run in the sun side by side, and teach them how to keep fiddler crabs living long enough to fish with the next day.
I can’t relate to the stories of knowing management or other guests as intimately. We were only as valuable as the service we provided. I remember being pulled into the kitchen many times when the guests would enter the home, including their children. We were told to stay out of the way and folks like us were not to be seen unless requested.
But my reference point of the new management was impacted when so many of my family members and childhood friends were layed off during the transition. I was in college in Savannah at that time. Loss of jobs for residents of Demere Rd, Harrington, Jew Town, and Proctor Lane meant fewer resources to take care of families at home. This spelled devastation for many I knew and a nervous scrambling to look for work “in town.” Many of us would always cringe at the thought of having to cross the bridge daily for work. Having to attend school there after SSI Elem. was sad enough.
But old or new management, I recall countless stories of family members and friends who over generations, suffered so many physical and respiratory injuries and illnesses from tolling endlessly to keep many of your cottages spotless, yards kept, and properties safe. Their stories are under the radar.
Having grown up in Brunswick when Sea Island was still ‘open’ to the people of Glynn County I remember as a child all too well the Sunday afternoon drives to see the ‘millionaire’s’ homes on the island. I had friends whose family belonged to the Beach Club and as children we were often dropped off in the morning to hang around there all day to swim and have our lunch on the parents tab. A number of years ago Sea Island ended memberships for locals except for those lucky enough to have property on the island. So all the good will that years and years of local patronage had produced was gone overnight. (closing the causeway to locals was the nail in the coffin) My remaining friends who’ve lived in Glynn County forever who used to be proud of Sea Island now refuse to send visiting friends there to stay at the Cloister. And having lived in Atlanta for years myself I recently asked some of my Glynn County friends living here if they refer their acquaintances to Sea Island to stay and to the person all of them say they don’t. So a whole book of business that used to flow to the island is no longer there.
I think the ultimate irony would be for a large foreign company(how about Tata, Inc.?)to buy the place, turn it in to a giant Days Inn staffed with members of the Patel family so that the place would begin to actually service the ‘average’ Georgian much like Jekyll Island should. My only question would be; would all the snooty Republican Fortune 500 Execs abandon the island overnight? Sweet revenge?
And if the beach is owned by the citizens of Georgia how is the average guy supposed to access it if the causeway is closed?
The best result would be the Company broken up into smaller manageable (and thus less risky) ventures. This is already happening with the deeding of the Frederica Township property, and the Cannons Point property to Wells Fargo (WF). Cannons Point is in process of sale by WF. The Frederica Golf Course & Club will probably be sold off seperately from the Residential lots. The Stables Tract is still owned by WF, but leased to a professional operator that has opened it to public use. Additionally, the Cabin’s Bluff Resort & Conference Center was traded to the Mead family for an undisclosed property; obviously the Mead’s will continue to operate the Cabin’s Bluff property. If this pattern is followed with the remaining assets, the Lodge, the Island Club Clubhouse, The Retreat and Plantation golf courses, the Cloister Hotel, Ocean Forest Golf Club, and the remaining developed & undeveloped residential properties will all be sold off in bankruptcy at 30 cents on the dollar to the loan amounts, to seperate corporate owners, and operated as public resorts. The first thing to go will be the gate at the Sea Island Road. When all this happens – and it most certainly will – the Property(s) will once again be profitable and a draw. Unfortunately, all the Sea Island Club Memebers will lose their private club, and of course their “refundable” application fee deposits (most over $100,000.) will be unrecoverable under the inevitable bankruptcy. The key is, this can and will be a very profitable set of public resort properties to own & operate, and will prompt an swift economic recovery for the Golden Isles. In my opinion, now is a good time to buy real estate down here – while the prices are low, bargains can be found, and in time to benefit from a recovering economy.
Bubba, I too was there during the years of no TV in your room. What a difference. I still go at least one or twice a year, but no longer stay at the Cloister (rather rent a cottage).
I feel that the new beach club and many activities on the island have been targeted towards children versus adults. This is a huge mistake. Under no circumstances do I want my grandchildren catered to, to this proportion.
Another big mistake was building the numerous beach condos, seen as soon as you enter the island. Looks like a Florida developer trying to make money…no old world feeling there. But calm, peace, and tranquility can be found further down Sea Island Dr. as you reach the cottages.
Another mistake was made when Sea Island took away permanent City Ledger Club Memberships. (One had to be sponsored by fulltime members and approved.) The exclusivity of Sea Island has been replaced by greed, ego, and the desire for big new money.
The decline started about 10 years ago. The powers that be failed to recognize that the charm of Sea Island was not primarily its buildings or its beach. It was the homey atmosphere that drew in the rich and famous long-time patrons — the long-term staff they developed relationships with, the dining rooms open to nonmembers where locals would come for special occasions (the prices kept it exclusive enough), and the quiet, noncorporate atmosphere. People like the Bushes and John Travolta could go anywhere they pleased. If they had wanted an exclusive, “world-class” resort, there were always plenty to choose from. A crew of Enron-era, B-school guys came in determined to strip Sea Island’s charm in an effort to become like other newer resorts they viewed as successful. The new lodge went up and during the off-season, the dining rooms have always been nearly empty — at the old Island Club, nonmember paying diners would drop in during the slow times. How is it good business sense to cut revenue sources and nightly operate empty restaurants for the sake of a new, more exclusive branding plan? The highly successful real estate office that operated on SSI and was filled with the best agents poached from other area companies in the mid-90s was also cut because it didn’t “reflect the brand”. They put a lower cap on available memberships to make Sea Island more exclusive — again, cutting revenue. And while cutting off all those revenue sources, they were building, building, building.
So will it lose its luster if sold? Nope. The luster is already gone. It hasn’t felt like a homey, family-owned resort for years.
Amen to the words class & classy. You must be related to my grandmother (born in 1895)…she always used the term, of good character, and taught me to do likewise.
Wow, just wow. Why do all of you want go to Sea Island? To rub shoulders with the rich or to enjoy the coastal experience? Do you think you’ve missed out on life just because you don’t live in a million dollar “cottage” or can’t eat dinner at the Cloister? This is the kind of attitude that helped build that place. I love the St Simon’s/Jekyll, coastal Georgia area. I’ve always looked over at Sea Island and felt that those people were too busy trying to impress each other to enjoy the beauty that surrounds them. Surely the more money you spend for a room on Sea Island, the better experience.
The Sea Island Club should be allowed to go under. If public money (and it is) is being used to maintain the roads/bridges/fire/police/etc then the beaches should be open for all. I for one however, will not visit.
wow, i find it interesting that people expect their childhood home or retreat to remain untouched while the rest of the world should bear the burden of all their starbucks and outback steakhouse desires. Everytime i hear people talk about Sea Island its like an exclusive club that only a few wealthy “in the know” should enjoy….im glad the overpriced development is going under…how about opening it to the “classy” masses…snobs.
I was so excited to find a position at Sea Island in 1996. At that time it was a wonderful place to work. Living on St Simons Island with a great job so close by was a dream. However, that dream fell apart with the money and fame hungry third generation of the family. They have made it inaccessible to those of us who would love to work, eat and spend time there. What a crying shame!
I have never stayed at the Cloister or the Lodge, but have driven through a few times over the years. Now, when i have a chance to go to the GA Coast, i head to Little St. Simons Island, which is not far from Sea Island. 10,000 plus acres, 7 miles of private beach, 30 guests on the island max. at a time and 30 staff members. It’s a wonderful place. Plenty of animals and nature and they have it right because they know how to treat people. Check it out if you can!
Sea Island has been destroyed by greed,arrogance and debt. former CEO’s mc crary and everett are the ones to blame. they lead mr. jones III down the path to destruction and reaped the benefit of large incomes and benefits. they both are locals from Georgia and they flushed the values of the Jones family. when history reviews the truth it will be stranger than fiction.
I was engaged at the Cloister, married at the Cloister, honeymooned at the Cloister, and spent my anniversary at the Cloister. I felt that I had bought a slice of time that could never be taken away from my wife and me. I hope that I was not wrong in that assumption…..
Realtor,
Your comments prove you have no clue about the process or what is currently happening with Wells Fargo or Goldman Sach’s efforts to dispose of the assets. Not even close.
Sea Island turned away the GA Bankers association, which is where they held meetings and conventions for years. They said, “Go away bankers, we don’t need your business anymore, we’re focusing on Billionaires.” Now, they would love to have us come bail them out, unfortunatly that’s not going to happen. Good bye to the Cloister, I’m sure some foreigner will come buy it for 20 cents on the dollar.
Coastal, you are correct in that the “realtor” has a dog in this fight. most, and i mean 95%, of the realtors in the SSI area are starving. many have lost everything they had in this downturn and they deserved what they got. living high on the hog, ski trips twice a year, new york three times a year, the carribean in winter, travel abroad, MB’S, lexus, jags and all on credit. now the bills have come due and they are filing chapter 11. let the good times roll!(the sea island company motto)
I know some of you like to be treated as if you actually are more important than others, but all you’re doing is paying way too much to enjoy the beautiful scenery. Grab your camping gear and head down to Cumberland Island. Still beautiful and no snobs.
I too honeymooned at the Cloister and vacationed there for many years afterward. We enjoyed Nathalie Dupree’s Cooking School and we loved the family environment at the “old school.” So many people enjoyed the old world charm of the buildings and I know all of that went away with the bulldozer. I still reside part time on St Simons and enjoy what’s left of the slow pace there. There may be a couple of “chain” places on the island, but those who know, know where to go. Greed is such an ugly creature.
The sea island of everyone’s childhood was gone years ago. The island lost it’s family values once Mr. Jones passed. We owned two homes on the island and sold them over the last decade because of what’s happened to the island. This is actually great news for the island and a new owner is the only way it can be saved. Drop the memberships! Open it up to the families again! Take out the guard posts and book the Tams and Drifters every Saturday Night. Maybe they should hire me to run the island.
in the late 80’s we used to take our children to the cloister for a few precious days each summer. it was a magical place for families and while pricey was a good value considering meals were included in the room rate. as the current management started “movin on up” they priced the family business out of their market and as i understand it courted a more corporate meeting clientele that centered around golf. when it was announced they would demolish the main building my family was heartsick. we stopped by one day to take a last stroll through the lobby and public areas. all with a lump in our throats. i do hope that the cloister can return to the gem that it was.
This is just a fine example of how the greed of some ruins things for all. I enjoy visiting the coast, but the select few that are trying to take everything over have got to go. It’s us “regular folks” that keep things going and appreciate the charm & beauty of the Golden Isles. Hope someone with sense can come to the rescue.
Speaking of “reators,” I’ve never understood how Sea Island Company could, for all practical purposes, keep “non-Sea Island Company” agents from selling Sea Island properties. I have to give them the name of my client so they can see if my client is in their database? If my client is in their database, then I can’t earn a commission if I sell a “cottage” they have listed? How absurd is that? And guess what? If I was stupid enough to give them the name of my client . . . it goes straight in their database. The hoity toity attitudes, from Bill Jones on down, is what got them in trouble. Good enough for them!
And truth is stranger than fiction – please don’t put all SSI realtors in your sinking boat. I have every penny I ever made selling real estate sitting in the bank – and it’s not Synovus.
True, I do have a dog, a client, in this hunt. IIf he lfollows my advice he will make a killing in this resort market over the next decade. As to my predictions; son, I forecast this all for my clients 3 years ago, and every single thing I told them has happened, on schedule and precisely as predicted: right down to naming Goldman Sachs. Print it out and watch over the next 3 months. You can check off the correct predictions as they happen; a game everyone can play.
another realtor, how they pulled this off is why they have gotten in the debt situtation they are in now. they did it because as one former CEO put it, “because we could, sea island company answers to no body.” arrogance!!! congrats on your seeing the future and saving. i think you will agree most have spent it and are now out begging. buddy can you spare a dime.
realtor, are you saying you have a client and he will make a killing in this resort market? are you full invested in real estate on SSI and SI? some preach and some stay on the sidelines. if you knew about goldman then you are the only one cause the banks made this decision a very few weeks ago. if you think this market is going to recover in three months then i suggest you jump in now. for me, i see a 10 year period of adjustment in resort, residential, and commercial in SE georgia.
Sea Island is getting what they deserve. Local business’s do not work for Sea Island. They don’t pay their bills. There house of cards have fallen down waiting for some Saudi billionaire to take over for pennies on the dollar.
We went to Sea Island for many years starting in the early 80’sand always stayed in the guest houses. When we first started going the main building and River House didn’t have TV’s but the guest houses did. After our daughter was born, she loved coming every year, enjoyed the traditions and had a great time in the camp. It was almost like her second home. We continued coming through her high school years and into college. We first came with our in-laws and it was an opportunity for her to spend time with her grandparents since we live a long distance away.
After my father-in-law became more ill and later died, we continued to come.
We were aware of the plans to replace the main building and could see why that was supposedly necessary. However we weren’t told about what would happen with the Beach Club which had been renovated for the G-8 and couldn’t see a good reason for good buildings to be demolished for the condos.
Over the years, fewer and fewer of the employees who we would see year after year were left. Some grew to retirement age but others were forced out or retired earlier than they wanted.
At the end, we went to a manager’s reception. These used to be very nice events but this one was just an attempt to sell condos. When my wife was talking to someone who apparently was a salesman but was supposedly there to answer questions, he rudely turned away from her in the middle of a sentence to speak to a better prospect. My daughter was left in tears when we realized that the Beach Club where she had had so many happy memories would be replaced. We did write Bill Jones and received a reply but it was of the “I’m sorry if you were offended” type.
It would have been nice that if she ever had children, we could have continued the family tradition but I doubt that will happen because she is so bitter. My wife and I might go back to see it but it will never be the same. Progress is always necessary and nothing stays the same but many of these changes were so ill advised.
Over the years we and my in-laws spent a large amount of money at Sea Island and it became apparent that they didn’t care about our business anymore.
I wonder how many of these oh so important condos were sold.
I moved here in 05 and watched as the overseer’s of Sea Island wasted millions of dollars. I have seen them give away truck loads of very expensive building products. I have also stood by and watched a St. Simon Business owner plan how to get over on The Cloister by supplying c&d grade materials. It worked and he got paid. I can promise you this “the only thing real on that Island is the sand.” oh and the crooks. They are getting what they deserve. Just wish we could flush all the Realtors along side them down the toilet.
THE RESPONSE IS OBVIOUS, THE JONES lll MANAGEMENT TEAM LOST THEIR FOCUS AND SOLD OUT TO THE LURE OF GREED. IT IS A SHAME THAT THE CLOISTERS, ONCE THE MOST PRIZED RESORT IN GEORGIA, TURNED IT’S BACK ON IT’S TRADITIONAL ROOTS AND SOLD OUT TO THE YANKEES. NOW, I GUESS SOME NEW YORK BANK WILL MAKE A FORTUNE AFTER “HOG SWAGGLING” THE JONES.. IT APPEARS THE CURTAIN HAS COME DOWN ON THIS BEAUTIFUL PAST. THE CLIENTELE THAT ENJOYED THE CLOISTERS DIDN’T NEED THESE CHANGES, SO NOW IT’S GONE. SAD.
I remember the days of no tv in the rooms. I would go to the lobby at 6:30 and watch the news and socialize with the other guest. It was part of the charm.
Maybe the new owners will tear it down and build an alligator farm and a motel 6 to appeal to the human sewage flowing down I95 from NY on their way to Fl. They have made Fl unbearable and now they can do it for Ga.
when the third generation came around, there were more mouths to suck off the teet of the sea island company, so the “jones’ ” had to do more to keep up with all the “jones’ “.
was at the beach club last summer and it looked like the jersey boardwalk had sent all it’s visitors south…tattoos, piercings, sideways ballcaps.
all good things come to an end and it looks like the cloister will become just another high end resort that will be run by some large corporation and loose it’s soul. thankfully that state is doing some work over at jekyll. maybe they will learn a little from the sea island spectacle and add some old school charm to the plans.
We were lucky enough to live at SSI in the late nineties briefly after having vacationed there for 15 years. After moving back to Atlanta, and returning, it seems as if the Island has lost an essential element – families. More often than not, the homes belong to rental agencies or are vacation homes, and it has made a big difference in the entire island’s atmosphere. Don’t get me wrong, we still (and will always) love SSI, but it has changed. On Sea Island – we didn’t go there that much, but I am totally outraged that a barricade has been erected. That was one of the BEST crabbing spots, and the site of a great ghost story for my kids. It was really fun going there in the early a.m. and seeing the marsh rabbits through the fog. Really tacky on Sea Island’s part to distance themselves from the rest of the island.
Do check out St. Simon’s though. We particularly recommend Brogen’s in the Village and Sandcastle for breakfast,,,and Barbara Jean’s for the most awesome veggies and cornbread!
My family has had a vacation home on St. Simons for three generations. While we loved laid-back St. Simons, it was always a rare treat to get dressed up and head over to the Cloister for a special dinner and bingo. As a teenager, I would hang out at the beach club with my Sea Island friends and pay cash at the snack bar ($5 for a grilled cheese and a coke). My family would horseback ride on the beach and rent bikes to tour the beautiful architecture and oak trees on Sea Island Drive. Over the years, the welcome mat was pulled away from visitors from St. Simons. It started off slowly–first with “members only” at the restaurants and finally with the erection of the guard gate. The memories of being turned away after all those years still sting. Now that I actually have the means to vacation regularly at Sea Island, why would I? I have only been one time as an adult. The new Cloister is very posh & very expensive, but I am unable to shake the feeling that the establishment has not earned my business. I just feel lucky that I have been able to travel to many other amazing places and know the difference between top notch and “exclusive”. I hope good things come back to St. Simons out of this unfortunate turn of events.
What’s all this “Yankee, Yankee” nonsense. The Joneses have been in Georgia more or less for a 100 years. This is the same old Southern insecurity at work, Atlanta imagining itself a “better” city than NEW York, the Braves “better” than the Yankees, collards better than pasta…Bill Jones imagining billionaires with access to the French Rivera, the Greek Isles, Sardinia, Tahiti, would make a bee-line for fly-bitten Georgia. Here’s a Yankee lesson: there are no loyalties anywhere.,
VJ, Atlanta may not be a “better” city than NYC… it just has better people living in it. This goes for pretty much everything south of the Mason Dixon… and I’m from Ohio! Now you can go tell yourself you did a good thing by voting for Obama.
Sorry about the empty post earlier, I was interrupted by a client to talk about the status of negotiations on the house they’re trying to buy down here. What I was going to say was, Yes, i do have a client that is one of many looking to profit from the Sea Island balkanization. And yes, I knew Goldman Sachs would be called in to be a mediator in the final stages. Someone would logically have to be, and the only likely candidates were Wells & Goldman. Wells was out because of the deed transfer of Frederica.. What was the other question? oh yes, I am fully invested in Golden Isles Real Estate and am advising all my clients to buy as much as they can afford now. I mean, come on, have you seen the prices things are selling for right now?. My comment about the 90 days was not to indicate that the economy would have recovered by then, just that the Sea island mess will be much less messy, and that prices will again start rising for all real estate in the area when those accomodations i predict have been reached between the new owner(s) and the banks. I don’t think it will be 10 years after that for a full local recovery, maybe 5 or 6, but the absolute bottom is almost here. Now is the time to buy in my opinion.
Realtor, wrong again!! it was always morgan, stanley til they screwed up the deal. as far as buying or selling anything here, you are making a living doing it. if you don’t recommend to buy then how do you make a living? i have never seen a way that realtors make any money in a down market. the 7% is suddenly 4% if you can get it. it is always buy, buy, buy and are you listing property? a very well known and successful real estate broker on SSI is quoted as follows,” list now and you will lose and by the way i can’t afford to advert your 2M house”. when i said you have a dog in this fight you know what i meant. come and see me in 5 to 7 years and you will know bottom.if you got property here i hope the bank has called you for a little de-leverage for it they have not they will soon.
@truth – I’m listing, and I’m selling. Commision rates are still 6% and up, commercial @ 10%. It’s all moving – slower than 2 or 3 years ago, but still moving. I’ve seen an upturn in the past few weeks. No, it was never Morgan Stanley. With all the negative Synovus publicity, their Board was very leary of any involvement with Sea Island which took them out of consideration to be mediator – it’s possible Sea Island (you?) didn’t know that and was hoping to lure Morgan Stanley, but there was no way that was happening. Goldman was the only strong candidate in the field that actually felt like taking on the bad publicity aura that is Sea Island Company. Goldman takes the long view and seeks opportunity to leverage their own interest over a clients (see the stories on the Sawgrass Bankruptcy). No, the banks aren’t calling me personally to de-leverage because I only buy at a 25% LTV or less. Cash is King. Once again,the market is so close to the bottom as to make no appreciable difference. Buy now while there is no real competition. When it hits bottom hard enough for the masses to realize the rebound is coming, competition for these low priced homes will negate any negotiating advantage a buyer may have.
Realtor, this my final repy to your posts. what mobile home park at you buying in? didn’t you tell your clients three years ago to buy as the market was on the way up? reading the local sales of real estate is about like looking over the obit section of the local paper. all you guys and gals in the bidness base your recommendations on what you have experienced in the past. (unless you are 90 or above you missed the last depression) take a trip over the bankruptcy court and see some of your former clients in line to file. since one of every four residents of SSI are real estate sales agents, i think a bounty should be offered for thier hides to shrink the population before they kill each other off.
I would say that things are far from the bottom either locally or nationally (all real estate is local at the end of the day). The next crisis in our country is our states, county, and city municipalities with defaults on project specific bonds coming this summer into 2011 and beyond. Barron’s article missed the mark with the unfunded pension liability nationally – this is old news – although still a disgrace at trillions in liabilites. Every state in the union has a project specific muni bond that could default.
Listen, our country has been in a fundamental shift for several years which it will take some time to adjust – the average American is just beginning to understand this including my great southern brethen – I am a southern native. The current administration in Washington is lost but lest we get lost from the real need and that is the survival of the Sea Island community – a major equity partner or buyer is needed and the Jones family needs to be relegated to official greeter if they qualify.
As of today Celebrity has no intention of making any adjustments to people holding tickets on the Mercury out of Charleston. My travel agent has been in touch with them and they plan to do nothing. I have serious doubts about going on this cruise . We are set to sail April 9,2010 and are very nervous about spending time on the ship and being sick..If the ship is not grounded in port we do not get our money back. I guess a fake doctors excuse is the answer…
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chicago, u are correct. the jones family is not needed in any capacity nor are those left who retain the idea sea island company way is the only way. get rid of all the left overs and begin again. those left are just that left overs and should go to the trash bin.
If you don’t mind leaving the states, consider the Cayman Islands. They are in the western area of the Caribbean. We spend a lot of time in Grand Cayman – a beautiful island that is safe and clean and very accessible from the States.
And their world famous beach is Seven Mile Beach!
The water is absolutely beautiful – clear blue and calm, usually at least 80 degrees. The sand is smooth and rarely gets hot – great for spending the day outside.
There are lots of water sports activities to keep you busy.
Of course the snorkeling is great right off the shore. There are plenty of other water activities too: scuba diving, sailing, boating, skiing, tubing, paddle boarding, parasailing – to name a few.
One thing you can’t miss – Stingray City / sandbar. That’s the highlight; you can go there by powerboat or catamaran. It’s a great way to spend a morning or afternoon.
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I read all the comments with great interest. I had always wanted to go to Sea Island as I heard so many good things about it from a long time home owner from Chicago that I did business with. I guess that was the old Sea Island so many of you long for. Sadly I missed that. My wife and our 4 kids 9,7,5,4 spent 2 weeks there last summer in the cloister – was originally going to stay at the Beach Club but that was sold out? We were upgraded to the Cloister’s Black Banks Suite ( a sign of business being slow) and had every 3rd day free. So while expensive in the in the end not much more than much lesser resorts I have visited and one room accommodated a family of six. I absolutely loved the place as did my entire family. Certainly some things were way over the top and other very expensive, 4 kid in kid camp ends up at $200 a day, many resort we visit its free. I can’t wait to go back. Service and friendliness was the best I ever experienced. The amount to do and facilities are top notch, never seen anything better. The only complaint was it was a bit too formal, women fully made up in the pool, thought that might be a southern thing and we are NY’ers. I imagine the old Sea Island would have been perfect for us but the new one was plenty good as well. I can’t wait to see the deals I can strike this summer!!! If I could I would buy a house there I couldn’t imagine a nicer place to spend my summers and retirement years. My feelings are now would be the time to buy a home. Perhaps the new owners won’t run it the same way but since they will get it cheap I expect it will remain nice and home prices will head back up. Of course listing prices are nothing like sale prices from what I have seen- last update from the Realtor was 60% of listing price. There are some foreclosure there that must be a steal – wish I had the money.
A question for those down there what is going on with the Ocean Forrest Golf club? How is it being effected by all of this?
I love Sea Island and hope it remains as one resort and perhaps it moves back in the direction that so many of you fondly remember.
I just returned from my first visit to SI in about three years. After marrying at the Cloister 12 years ago, we were in the habit of going 2-4 times a year but have realized that we can’t sustain that standard of vacation living for the long haul. (Why get our kids attached to it?) Still, the place holds much sentimental and aesthetic appeal, particularly for my husband, whose Cloister memories date back 40+ years.
The good news: I found the level of customer service to be back at levels I haven’t seen since the privatization and rebuilding. To a person, the staff members were cordial and available to help at all times. The grounds are gorgeous and it certainly isn’t apparent that times are bad in terms of deferred maintenace or lackluster decor.
The bad news: All those nice staff members are new faces; gone is the no-tipping policy; the American meal plan is but a fond memory and the prices certainly don’t fit my family’s streamlined budget. Most regrettably, when you call the switchboard, no one says, “Thank you fuh callin’ the Cloistuh at Sea I-lun; how may I duhrek yore cawl?”
We have, sadly, put our Sea Island days behind us but are singularly grateful for the blessed years we considered it our home away from home. It was idyllic and hopefully will remain so for others.
…and I miss the peach soup and cornbread for lunch.
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Yeah, the USPS has NOTHING to do with it – nor does the US Department of State! I went to Post Office during the first rush for passports – at that time the web site stated it would take 8 to 10 weeks. I was into my 13th week and all the USPS would tell me was – “We just send in the paperwork, the State Department does all the work, check with them at this web site.” The web site told me they had assigned me a file number (but no explanation what that meant) emails went unanswered and phone calls resulted in hold for 15 minutes and then auto hang ups.) Calls to members of congress got the response – “We don’t get any more info that you do and unless it’s an emergency we can’t get involved.” No one seemed to care that the State Department would LIE about the time frame (and was telling the world how good they were on processing these but failing to meet their own published schedules…..)
I have the passport, it only took 15 weeks – no reasons for the delay, no response to emails, and will timely renew….. I HATE working with them and their flunkies – the USPS who wash their hands of ANY responsibility.
My husband ordered his passport February 22nd at a local post office, and got his passport in the mail last week. I have found that when you’re nice to people at the USPS, they are usually nice to you. I’m sure they get hassled all day long for things that they cannot control. The lady who did passport intake was awesome!
so, ya wait 15 weeks to get it, and what does it cost?
$135? $145? $155? It is good for 10 years!
It can be pro rated at less than 16 bucks
per year. I travel just once per year.
I am a native Atlantan living in Japan.
I go to the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo to renew.
Our 5-year-old needs to renew sooner than
I do. He holds a Japanese and a U.S.
passport. Kids need to renew more
often simply because the photo
is more likely to be different from
the real face. He was an infant
at the time of his first passport
photo.
Our once per year international travel
is from here in Japan back to Atlanta.
My wife is Japanese. Please, consider
here an adopted Georgia peach
My wife and I got our passports in 14 days. Had the pics taken at Wal-Mart, went to the courthouse and filled out the paperwork and gave the pics to the clerk. That was about 7 or 8 years ago. The cost then was like $75 bucks but we had no problems getting them, and like I say it only took 2 weeks. We had a blast in Grand Cayman.
In the military, I didn’t need a passport, I still don’t, not traveling, got that out of my system. During the complex negotiations with cyberwar going on, I may need to bury a parent in foreign soil. I now have an $80 passport in order to do that should it become necessary. I’m just glad I did it now rather than later.
*yawn* Just another morbid take on bodily disposition.
Birdied the first hole.
Eagled the 2nd.
Eagled the 3rd
Eagled the 4th
Eagled the 5th
Birdie the 6th, that one should get easier.
Eagle the 7th That’s interesting.
Y’all have fun out there, wherever you may be. Mandatory passports!!! “SOCIALISM!!!”
You guys brought it up. Pay it forward. I’ll be at the register.
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The Post Office collects the fees, but the State Department issues the pasport. Fees are going up because Obama is making us pay for Hilliary’s worthless trips around the world. Yet another source of income from the working class for the bulging Obama administration to squander.
2 of my kids just got new passports since they were under 16 when they got their last ones. Post office told us 3-4 weeks until delivery. We shall see. You can get your photos taken at the post office for $15.
I have a passport for myself and my 3 kids. I have renewed my kids passport every five years. What I really really CANNOT stand–is that a new passport costs the same as a renewal passport–Since a passport has already been issued, the passport fees should be less and less paperwork should be submitted. They already know I am a citizen the first time I applied for a passport, why keep sending a birth certificate? A lot of people dont renew their passports due to the fees…and by the way.. We have never used our passports….
Bitch and moan – if you don’t like the process, the fees or the service, don’t get a passport. Or better yet, get a one-way ticket out of the country and you won’t need a passport to return!
I was dreading the passport process based on critiques I’d heard from others in the past but the process was super easy. It cost like $110 including the picture from Walgreens. Plus I’d considered paying the expedite fee but glad I didn’t b/c it only took a few weeks. We’ll probably get my husband’s before the rate hike goes into effect. Not surprised though, the price of everything’s going up!
I renewed last year and paid expedite fee. Sent application in on Thursday, had new passport back in Monday. Doesn’t get much more efficient than that.
I went to Passport Day last Saturday morning, but they do not take applications to RENEW existing passport. They told me I have to mail it in. I wish I had known this before waking up early Saturday morning and wasting my time standing in line.
The Georgia coast is rich with memories and traditions for the wealthy,the average,and the poor.
When you erase that and try to sell a fantasy as the Sea Island Co. did, you get what they got: failure.
If I am going to drop 1k-2k for a weekend of “Generica”, I’ll go to Vegas, Watercolor, Fl. or Amelia Is.
Another great festival near Barnsley Gardens is coming up April 17-18, 2010. It’s the new Antiques & Arts in Adairsville festival on the Historic Adairsville Public Square. Admission is free. In addition to numerous antiques dealers and fine arts booths, there will be activities for children and an appraisal fair from 2-5 p.m. on Saturday. The festival is open 9 am-6 pm both days. See http://www.AdairsvilleInApril.com for more details.
Is anyone else having trouble getting their membership dues refunded? We put our long-time membership on hold with the promise that it would be refunded and we haven’t seen a dime. Was told that they are refunding on a “lottery system.” Anyone else having trouble?
It is sad most US citizens do not travel. In the rest of the world people are always traveling between countries. I think this is what helps the rest of the world to understand they are not the only people in the world.
I handled all of my passport renewal application at the Crown Road post office and I have to say this is one area where the post office shined. I was going out of the country on business and realized my passport would be expiring during the trip. I picked up an application and filled it out at home. (This saves a lot of time for you and the people behind you.) I arrived at the post office had my picture taken and paid the fees. I paid the extra fees for expedited service. That was on a Thursday. Wednesday of the next week I had my passport. No joke. I was shocked.
If something were to spill it would cost this country Trillions in lost revenue and aid. Worst disaster in our country’s history by far. So we must be careful and not take short cuts. We certainly do want to become Venezuela.
The benefits of increased offshore oil production in the US far, far outweigh the negatives. One of the most accurate statements in this article was where it was mentioned that the issue, at this point, is one that comes down mainly to perception.
Opponents see only the real and imagined ills of offshore oil production
and completely ignore any possible benefits. Clearly that is not a logical stance.
And finally, tourists are not going to flee from any beach resort areas unless or until there actually is a major oil spill. As has been pointed out in comments here and elsewhere, that is far more likely to happen from the shipping of oil, which is already taking place today in all of these areas and with great frequency, rather than from offshore drilling or production. But because this is an issue all about perception and not about reality, no one complains about or protests against that. Out of sight, out of mind. And that will also apply with the offshore rigs that will be located out beyond the visible horizon and never seen from shore.
My family just got home from a sort of mini break ’cause I’ve got some unfinished work left on my office table. Whenever we go out I make sure that all of us enjoy the time and each others company, since we don’t get a lot of holidays, we pretty much make sure it’s worth it. We came from Juniper Springs resort where they have this amazing view and mountain experience that we won’t forget. The place was clean and well organized. Complete from pools and hot tubs to biking and skiing amenities. Temperature was very comfortable, added up with the home-away-from-home aura. Our family did feel that serene ambiance we were looking forward to this holiday. We plan on getting the same trip for next year–only now we plan to stay there for a week!
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Iceland Volcano’s particles arrived in other countries as well. I have read on Project Weight Loss that right now only the weather could help clear the sky from volcanic ash. A good rain could disperse the cloud. No one knows how long the volcano may remain active. In 1821 Eyjafjallokull erupted for 13 months.
I just need to make a correction on something listed on the Louisville Tips article. I live in Louisville, KY. Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom is no longer open. The lease was rejected back in February and the decision was made not to open the park.
The environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig sinking into the Gulf of Mexico will be felt for years to come.
As it sunk, the rig began spilling tens of thousands of gallons of oil into the water per hour. Nearly a half-million gallons have already spilled and the toll could be worse than that of the Valdez accident.
Fears are that oil from the well on the sea floor will begin making its way to the surface. Just 41 miles from the coast, the rig is situated so that this incident has brought a lot of business to a halt on the seas, and for those who depend on the Gulf along the shores.
And clearly, the impact of sea life in the Gulf is immediate and could be felt for years. Those waters serve as home to numerous fish species and shellfish like shrimp, mussels and oysters we find at markets. Not only is it next to impossible to farm these animals under such conditions, the water quality is sure to be jeopardized by the massive oil spill.
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Charleston is Great! I love walking Downtown and on the Beaches. The Food is excellent, the shopping 1st rate. Prob. the best weekend getaway from Atlanta that you can drive to.
Charleston, Savannah & St Augustine are great long weekend getaways from metro Atlanta. Another gem is Fernandina and Amelia Island, north of Jacksonville.
My family lives in VA about 90 minutes from VA Beach. We have already paid for a beachfront condo on Manasota Key (Englewood, FL area) for early August. If the spill continues for 3 or 4 more months, I would not be surprised if there is impact to the beach there. We have not made any changes and still plan to stay there; fortunately, we have other acitivities planned besides sitting or swimming on the beach – visiting friends and relatives, going inland to some parks and historical sites, etc. Things can happen on any trip, which is why trip insurance was invented (though oddly enough insurance is useless for an oil spill). When we first made our plans, we were more concerned about the timing of our trip and hurricane season. However, this is the only time of year as a family we have available to make the trip together. As long as the weather holds and the area is open, we will be down there. Also if any cleanup is going on the beach while we are down there, we will volunteer to help in whatever capacity we have available. To look at it another way, here is an opportunity, too, to provide your family with good learning experience about the benefits and costs associated with drilling of oil off our shores – not as fun as meeting Mickey or Goofy – but more important to everyone’s future.
I am planning a vacation at the end of June in Clearwater, Florida. I am very concerned that we will not be able to enjoy the beach when we get there due to the oil spill. I have no idea if it will be there at that time or not. It makes me want to pick another place to go as I havent made any deposits yet.
We had a beautiful condo booked in Fort Morgan (Gulf Shores) but just canceled as the leading edge of the oil is arriving on shore int he form of tar balls. It is only going to get worse.
Too many other nice areas out there to chance it with AL…so off to Amelia Island, FL for us this year!
If they dont get this leak plugged ASAP, the entire Gulf is going to pay a very severe price.
If you want to try and avoid the oil spill, we love going to Cocoa Beach on the Atlantic side of Florida. Plus, it is really close to Orlando when we want to visit the theme parks.
Some day I would love for Gulf Shores to become my full time residence. It would take more than a oil spoil to run us away. We love the Gulf and just visted there over Spring Break. If I had the time…I would make another trip there NOW or even in a month from now. We love the beach and the kids could still enjoy the beach. They may not be able to get into the water…but they would enjoy a pool as well. There are so many other things that can be done in the area or surrounding areas.
If you have never been to the beach and are looking forward to the experience…this might not be the right time to go. But for repeat visitors, you should not let this detour you from experiencing the coastal area. You might just find some other interesting things to do that you haven’t tried before.
For reservations, try Meyerre.com…we would not go anywhere else. They are still offering great deals and cancellations for the affected areas. Support the Gulf Area…keep your reservations.
We love you Gulf Shores, Alabama…Keeping you in our hearts and prayers.
I’m going to destin this saturday for a week with my entire family. Very few tar balls have washed up on the western alabama shores to start with and the slick is still hundreds of miles even from gulf shores! Some people are over reacting, today they said the slick will be moving west toward texas. They have no idea what it will do really. Since it’s still hundreds of miles from the florida panhandle, i will soak of some rays for you people! I look forward to having a great time with my family in destin! I refuse to let a spill still 3 states over from florida, ruin my plans! lol
In April, my family booked a 5 night stay at Sandestin in Destin. We are just waiting to see what happend. Our vacation is in mid-June and we can cancel up to 7 days before. We can always opt to go somewhere on the Atlantic coast, but I was really looking forward to going to Destin.
Going to Rosemary Beach at the end of June with no plans to cancel. If the beach is affected to the point that we cannot go in the water (which I doubt), then we will just enjoy the views, the pools and the area. It’s still a vacation with family and a time to relax. I would not cancel my planned vacation because of this.
I just saw a you-tube video of two southern guys that were using hay/straw to soak up oil – you should check it out! Just take a couple of hay bales with you when you go to the beach and you should be fine! I actually think it’s a great idea!
Last year I vowed not to vacation in Florida or Alabama as a result of those states’ lawsuits demanding we keep less than 1% of our water. I regret what the oil will do to all of the wildlife and the beautiful coasts, but I have no more regard for the people of those states than they do for Atlantans.
We have fallen in love with the beaches of South Carolina. I was always a diehard “gotta go to the Gulf” person, but I don’t want to go where I am held with such disdain by the natives. People should take this summer to give destinations in the Carolinas and Georgia a try. You’ll like what you find….and the natives don’t want to deprive you of your own water.
According to BP and local officials in the gulf, all losses associated with the oil spill would be paid by BP as long as it is documented. From what I understand, that would any vacation losses due to the spill including lost deposits on canceled vacation homes or condos. The toll-free number for the Claims Line is +1-800-440-0858. The line is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Not sure what to do…vacation to Destin booked for the first week of August. The what if’s and when’s make it difficult to decide to stay or cancel? We have been going to Destin with our kids for 12 years…we go for the beach and Gulf…not the pool, activities inland or shopping. 95% of our time is at the beach…this oil spill is unbelievable, to do anything around our house the city has to approve everything…looks like our government doesn’t hold the same standards to BIG oil companies. Prayers to all the gulf coast residents.
Those of you who think that the only trouble you will face is that you can’t go in the water are going to be sadly disappointed. It’s not just that the water and beaches will be contaminated — the air will be heavy with the smell of crude oil. That odor will permeate everything and will make you ill. You won’t even want to walk outside. I am devastated by this. The Gulf will take DECADES to recover. This is not some small problem.
Breaking a 9 year streak of Destin vacations due to poetntial of oil slick in the area. Been going to Destin off and on 20 years. Going to Amelia Island this time. Won’t be the same…
I have vacation property in the panhandle and of course am concerned about the loss of income. I depend on spring and summer rentals to cover a majority of expenses for the year.
Personal concerns aside, I am deeply worried about the economic and other tangible impacts on the environment. Help me understand why this great nation of ours is still oil-dependent. I understand the oil companies still foresee years of profits, but at what cost?
Before any more off-shore drilling is permitted, we should demand that these big corporations start spending money on a working infrastructure for safety and containment. This spill brought out into the open how up to this point it’s been and wink and a promise. C’mon – how can a non-profit organization we expected to police this massive activity. And while we’re on that subject, it’s a system ripe for fraud and under-the-table deals the way these permits are handed out like candy.
We have yet to see the full devestation caused by BPs folly.
People, check with your lodging and believe what they say. I live near the Destin, FL area and the oil slick is at the Mississippi/Alabama state line and Mother Nature is using the winds to send the slick to the west and northwest. The weather and white sand beaches are still beautiful!!!!!
We rented a beach house on Cape San Blas in July. This was through Pristine Rentals. They are telling us to come on and that there is nothing to worry about. NOTHING! Seriously? A family vacation to a place where there is nothing else to do but be at the beach. Yes, we are WORRIED!! We are driving 15-16 hours! With Children!! They are not allowing people to cancel without penalties and large ones at that! I am so confused with what to do and they will take so much money that another vacation will be impossible. I cannot believe they would treat people this way. Do I KNOW the beaches are going to be devastated? No, but feel very strongly that they will, sadly. Just the what if is enough to make a family want to try to schedule something else. I hope that all is well there and that this disaster is cleaned up and the environment is healed. They invited us to come on down and IF there is anything wrong we could volunteer to clean up the beaches. DID I say we are on a FAMILY vacation with 4 VERY young children? So confused and at a loss.
We are Canadians that travel to Florida each year. We love the beaches, the great weather, and the wonderful hospitality that Floridians offer their tourists. Usually we vacation in the southern gulf coast, but this year we decided on one week in the panhandle and one week on the south coast. We were ready to book about 2 weeks ago, but decided to hold off due to the oil spill. What an environmental tragedy! Also, I can’t imagine the impact to the lives of so many Americans. We thought about planning a vacation elsewhere, but for our family visiting Florida each summer is the highlight of our summer. So at this point, we are waiting to see how things turn out. Our vacation is one thing, but I pray that BP is able to stop the flow as soon as possible before more damage is done to the environment and the millions of Americans whose lives are affected so directly by the oil spill. Hopefully we will see you in August!!!
I own a condo in Gulf Shores and have been following this closely. I get daily updates from our management company and thus far the only complaints that I have heard have been weather related. The Gulf Shores chamber did report that they had found a couple tar balls but a couple tar balls on miles of beaches is certainly not worth cancelling a trip. There are webcams that you can look at on some of the sites that illustrate the fact that the beaches are still incredibly beautiful. Dont let the media scare you into changing your plans…do your own research & trust people that are actually down there. Media thrives on blowing things out of proportion. Happy travels.
Buyers beware! I do not suggest calling any person on the coast for updates unless they are a relative or personal friend. There were many times in the past I called down to check if there was an algae bloom that causes that thick green slime in the water every summer. Many times I was told, “No, the water is clear. Come on down!” Then upon arrival I would find the gulf unusable and a local would inevitably tell me something like, “It’s been like this for several weeks.”
I’ve been going to Fort Walton Beach, Flordia for over 15 years and the thought of oil slicks on that beautiful ocean sickens me! We’ve always enjoyed the beautiful sand and water and even though we are only an hour from Galveston, we’d still drive the 10 hours just for the beauty of the Florida Panhandle. I still plan on keeping my July plans to Fort Walton, and just pray God, in His Amazing Grace, can help erase what we have done to His creation!
We booked a condo at The Beach Club in Ft Morgan, AL for June 12 through Gulf Shores Vacation Rentals. They only plan on refunding our money if the beaches close. From I am reading, the chance of them closing the beaches are next to none. So, I would guess that folks will be walking around with Haz Mat suits on picking up tar balls but it should be safe for the kids in swimsuits??? I compare it to the Ohio River. Sure, the water’s open for swimming but do you really want to?? I don’t think so. I think the promises of refunds are pretty worthless. I will never book a vacation again where I have to pay in full 60 days up front by check. The rental agencies have our money so there is nothing for them to worry about. Live and learn.
I would’t expect to get the whole truth from the rental agency or a condo owner! Oil WILL hit the beach, it is simply a matter of when. If BP does contain the leak in a matter of days, the entire Gulf will be a mess with oil. Imagine sitting on your beachfront patio with smelling salts to hide the raw crude stench. Nice!
We are bailing Gulf Shores for South Carolina. Friendly folks, nice beaches and no floating death.
I made reservations for a week stay at the San Destin Resort in Florida. I am very concerned about the beaches being nasty from the oil. Not to mention, I’m sure the wind will blow oily residue onto the balcony rails, etc.. I am not real thrilled with exposing my 2 year old daughter to it. I hope it doesn’t reach their coast by July!
I’ve been planning for MONTHS to spend the summer (June and July) at the beach to recuperate from a terribly difficult year of teaching and recovery from a fall that ended in surgery. I’m heartbroken about the oil spill, but even more upset about the damage to the local wildlife. I’m still planning to go down there for the summer and would like to volunteer some of my vacation time to help. What do I need to do? (My husband, however, sees no reason to go since his greatest enjoyment is to spend mornings on the beach, watching the sun rise and basking in the unspoiled beauty.)
my family & i have planned our trip to panama city beach from may28-june6 everything has been per paid for we are super nervous about the oil,and are not getting any feed back when we contacted the restort what are we in for our girls live for are once a year trip to the water.
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I live near Destin (having moved from Atlanta last year), and there’s no sign of any change in the water (or air) thus far. I would suggest holding off on any cancellations as long as possible prior to your planned trip, & if the coast is still clear (so to speak), come on down. It may affect this area, but I think the consensus is that whatever we get (in the FL Panhandle) will be indirect, & will have been weathered (or “processed”) by the Gulf into tar balls or something less threatening than what we think of as oil. I don’t want to minimize it, but just don’t think in the end it will be as impactful to this area as people generally seem to think. My 2 cents, anyway.
I have offices in both Mexico Beach and Cape San Blas, FL and have monitored the situation in the gulf very closely everyday since the Deepwater Horizon explosion. No one can promise or fully predict what may happen today, tomorrow or a month from now. For those of us on the Gulf Coast, we have to go on as business-and pleasure-as usual because for right now that is exactly what it is. As time goes by, the situation does seem to look up for those of us in the Panhandle. Certainly you can understand that money can not be given back today for a vacation that is supposed to take place 2 months from now. The media has created a hysteria and if listened to I can understand why most believe there is thick oil dripping off wildlife along the shores of Lousiana down through Florida. However, this is not the case. If you do have a trip planned to visit Northwest Florida, I would hope that you stick with those plans until there is a definite reason not to. Please listen to the people in the area and what they have to say about conditions. They are not going to promise you something that you are going to find to be untrue once you get there. It is no different than the risk you run in traveling during hurricane season. If the beaches are evacuated, or in this case closed due to oil, you will get your money back. But probably not until then. That’s going to hold true with any company you speak with on Cape San Blas, Mexico Beach or anywhere else for that matter.
Although I am disappointed for the environmental and economical impact that this will have on the Gulf Coast, I am seeing a surge in our business which is a residential resort on Greers Ferry Lake, AR. Maybe this will help the economy in summer of the smaller, but just as beautiful states.
This was the worst customer service + flight experience that I have ever had. I had a UA 6334 flight to Philadelphia through Chicago. Since the flight was delayed, my first flight from Des Moines to Chicago was changed to “AMERICAN AIRLINES” that arrived @ Chicago, a few minutes earlier than the initial flight to give me a better chance of not missing my connecting flight to Philadelphia. But the American Airlines was canceled and the rude person at the gate desk there didn’t even bother to attend to concern of being rescheduling through the initial flight that was delayed (ie UA 6334) as I knew for sure that flight was available within a few minutes. When she finally took her own time to attend to me, she simply said that she cant do anything as UA was my primary carrier and I had to go to them. She wouldn’t even guide me with the gate or where i had to go!
Finally on reaching the UA gate, I met the meanest lady ever who wouldn’t even listen to me and kept me waiting in the line until the long queue of another flight was over and my Flight took off without me! She was irresponsible, rude and least bothered about helping me out and was like “the only thing I can do for you is reschedule you to a flight next day”. She spoke as if she was doing me a favor by even doing that and said that “i was American Airline’s responsibility! While the other mean lady at American lady told that “you are United Airlines’ responsibility”. So finally my trip was delayed by a day. I was left stranded at the airport that night! She didn’t even help me with my compensation/stay for that night. I ended up paying double for that trip by paying for my overnight stay+cab to and fro to airport twice and facing mean, lazy irresponsible customer service agents tossing off their responsibilities and losing a day off my vacation! And when I asked her if I could speak to someone, she was like if you have a problem, go online and say what you want! How mean!
At the end of the day ,
I lost money in hundreds!
I lost a whole day off my 3 day long weekend trip!
Was left stranded and frustrated alone in the airport!
PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM “UNITED AIRLINES’ as well as “AMERICAN AIRLINES” if you want to have a peaceful, safe trip with responsible, profession customer service!
On a good note, on my way back I traveled by Delta Airlines flight which also got delayed/canceled due to mechanical problem) But the professional and responsible people at the Philadelphia Delta gates booked me on to 3 different flight with the option of getting me out there at the earliest possible and also gave me a $100 voucher for the inconvenience caused!
Now that’s the difference between responsible & reckless!
My wife, now age 70, first came to Sea Island at age 5; her parents had come several times before she was born, as did her grandfather (by invitation I understand). Her family always rented “cottages”. Her family’s tradition became ours as well. Renting an older (read smaller and less expensive) SI cottage for two weeks each June became our (almost) every-year vacation plan until our youngest was through college. We had a gap of 20 years thereafter. Of course, we have MANY pictures and warm memories….
We loved Mr. Everett’s Wednesday-night lectures about the history of the Golden Isles. Bingo was a big (and inexpensive) evening out. It started be getting a reservation in the clubroom and being recognized by Vance, the headwaiter, to get a good table in the clubroom near the dance floor. Mr. Everett’s tongue-in-cheek wit while calling bingo made it good fun. That was followed by dancing to the Sea Island Orchestra, followed by graham crackers and milk off the Cloister lobby near the ever-present jigsaw-puzzle-in-progress. The package made winning at bingo irrelevant; it was a fun family evening!
The kids got dancing lessons at an early age (included with the $40/week/cottage Club Membership). They loved horseback riding (Amy, we miss you!). Percy taught them all to swim. Our son became an excellent skeet shooter under the tutelage of Fred Missledine. And, of course, they learned our household Ledger number so they could charge stuff at the Beach Club snack bar, where Big George held forth.
We spent hours on the beach, riding the waves, reading, sailing Hobie Cats, and (toward sunset) enjoying a drink or two in our beach chairs. (One evening, Jimmy and Roselyn Carter strolled by and said “hey”.)
When adults wanted a night out, we could depend upon Mrs. Forbes, the chief Sea Island telephone operator, to line up sitters, then go to the Georgian Room at an OK price, or else off-island. And the whole family looked forward to the Beach Club luncheon buffets and Sunday night buffets at the Cloister. Since Cloister guests were on the American Plan, these venues were bustling! I could go on..
For the past three years, we have rented a SI cottage for a week because it is a place with so many good memories and our children are willing to travel long distances to get together; we now live at great distances from each other. SI has a safe, wide beach with swimmable water temperatures and some amenities that we still use. As a matter of fact, I am sitting in 1950’s-era Cottage writing these notes. All of our children and grandchildren are here under one roof, and it is still one of the best places we can envision for a family “reunion” vacation. But the Sea Island Company, in reaching for 20 stars, has lost its soul.
Of course, all of the old-timers have retire, left, or died. More than one was forced out by the new management team, of course. The new team is polite, but for us, distant.
The beach club is bigger, and the multiple pools are nice. (Of course, diving has been eliminated for liability reasons.) The condos looming behind the beach club are an architectural travesty; hello, Marco Island!
I used to go into the Cloister (it could now double as a huge mausoleum) daily to get newspapers at the shop just off the main lobby. No more; go to the Beach Club.
Horseback riding is now limited to walking only; someone must have gotten injured cantering along the way. Goodbye, horses!
We have always prepared most of our meals at home, and we do so more than ever, since reasonably priced alternatives on Cloister property seem nonexistent. No more buffets (too wasteful). The River Bar has some life in it, I’m told, but otherwise, Cloister restaurants (those that remain open, that is) do very little business.
Bingo has someone who can call numbers accurately, period, its venue is totally devoid of charm. We didn’t bother to sign up after year one.
Children’s activities are available — all at high prices. Dancing, either for children or adults, is not offered. Goodbye, line dances; goodbye, ballroom dancing. Goodbye, lectures about the area.
So when we come here these days, we have a sense of loss and anger toward the misdirection of current management. Even so, we always always appreciate some of the amenities and the natural beauty and exquisite landscaping, not only of the hotel areas, but of the cottages as well.
I agree with some of the other bloggers who look forward to a less “exclusive” resort. It is essential that locals and visitors be welcome again!
No nuts? Really? Like it would really be missed. There are what, 7 or 8 in a little bag? For the prices these days to fly and other nickle and dime charges they throw at us, we should be getting a bag the same size as they sell at Turner Field for FREE! As for those allergic, don’t buffer, isolate them like they use to do with smokers. Call it the “No Adro Zone”.
Heck no. If someone is allergic then don’t fly. If they fly then they take the risk that someone will be eating peanuts. Should we ban them from restaurants too? We might as well outlaw ALL public food serving eateries for those few poor souls that need the gubbament to ‘do something’ about all those evil peanuts and those evil people that eat them.
If the airlines ban serving them then I will bring my own. If they try to take them from me they can eat crow while I sue them into oblivion. Stupid people, stupid country, going to he11 faster than you can say ‘It must be Bush’s fault’.
I have a peanut allergy, but I certainly wouldn’t force a ban, I just don’t eat them. However, there are people who are so allergic that they can die if they smell peanuts, or if they inhale tiny particles that blow around when you rip open the bag. Why should those people not be able to fly?? But anyone with that severe an allergy, they aren’t going to be able to eat any of the snacks onboard. Read the labels, even the little cookies they give out to people (like me when I ask, stating my allergy), the labels say “may contain traces of peanuts”!! Good thing my allergy isn’t that severe or they’d have killed me by now.
Some people can become very sick from the smell of peanuts when they become airborne. Should we allow cigerettes too… if you think they will give you cancer DON’T SMOKE THE CIGERETTES!
Don’t ban them! Oh second hand smoke causes cancer too?
I would have to support the ban since I was allergic to them at one time. It can be very serious for someone with a severe peanut allergy as they can die relatively quickly from an unexpected reaction. Carrying an Epipen doesn’t always help if you are incapacitated and there isn’t a medical person that can administer a dose. It seems like the airlines could have snacks other than the cheapest ones anyway!
This is going a bit too far and too PC. If one is allergic to something, one knows. If you are going to eliminate peanuts in the name of safety, how about making it illegal for passengers to wear over-bearing perfumes and colognes? Some people have an allergic reaction to these smells as well.
When is it going to end?
I’m allergic to small seats with no leg room. I’m also very, very allergic to cancelled or delayed flights, bag fees, lost luggage, and rude flight attendants. I’ll give up my peanuts if they’ll solve my “allergies”.
If you are so alergic to peanuts that you will die by smelling them, you should be in a clean room and not flying anyway. Ever walked by a food court and died? The risk is simply overstated to pacify someone who doesn’t get enough attention at home. Ban the peanuts and I’m happy to bring my own. Big can and pass them around. Can I use the microwave on the aircraft and do my own popcorn?
Plum ridiculous. I guess these folks don’t ever go to major league baseball games. They don’t peanuts there, and god, I hope they never will. This is just one more sign of the decline in air travel. This
country had a chance to be really great with train travel, but we threw that away like other good things. We’re a third world country with a
third world president.
Most folks who have peanut allergies already know and won’t eat the peanuts. So, this is just more government nonsense from the people who have made being absurd their professional goal.
totally support a ban on nuts on the plane. if someone with a food allergy DOES have a reaction on the plane, it will be a lot more time consuming and frustrating for those passengers who do not have the allergy when the plane is forced to land at the nearest airport. save the peanut eating for the airport.
That is ridiculous. We shouldn’t have to cater to people who have some imagined allergy to a food to the point they cant’t sit near them. The smell of alcoholic beverages makes me sick to the point I don’t like to be around them. Should we ban alcohol on flights? I also get sick just smelling the clothing of someone who has smoked a cigar. Should we force them to strip down and shower before boarding? If you can’t take sitting near peanuts, you should stay home.
WOW! one more comment on the insensitive comments – ever have a loved one be in danger because someone had to eat a peanut? really? really? peanuts over a life??? and we are not asking that someone gives peanuts up forever – just the 2 HOURS THEY ARE ON THE PLANE!!!! WOW! Brutal!
Is “peanut” a new code word for a certain group who doesn’t know how to use their “inside voices” on a plane, talk loudly while the movie is playing in theaters, collectively blame their own mistakes on others and back into parking spaces at the airport very poorly?
If so, my husband and I are wholeheartedly in support of the ban.
I sure could go for some “peanut” butter right about now.
You idiots are the most insensitive people in the country. Only the southeast would have people that don’t recognize that peanut allergies are actually fatal for small children. Kids with peanut allergies can actually die without eating any of them. If peanut oil residue was rubbed on a seat or on a magazine that they picked up, that could be fatal. It is a no-brainer to ban peanuts on airplanes and most public school systems (outside of the southeast) already have banned peanuts in their cafeterias. And Angela, I’m sure if this was YOUR CHILD with the allergy, you wouldn’t be such a dumba$! about this issue.
I would suggest that the airlines offer a non-peanut tainted snack instead of the peanuts. Give out pretzels to everyone instead of peanuts! Then, when the gluten-free people complain…
You’re right. This is typical Atlanta. Selfish people and totally unaware of important issues that the rest of the country has educated themselves about. Amazing that some adults actually aren’t aware that peanut allergies kill children (frequently). Unfortunately, one day something will happen to someone you love and then you’ll understand. Until then, stay in the dark Atlanta.
RIDICULOUS!
This is another example of the “Liberal Narcissism” in our country.
It is tearing away at the “fabric” of our great nation.
People, get over yourselves!
I’m tired of reading all of the news stories about people dieing left and right from other airplane passengers eating peanuts. Wait. I have never read about someone dieing because another passenger ate peanuts.
In fact, when is the last time that there has been a report of ANYONE, ANYWHERE dieing from a peanut allergy????
Ban milk products. Ban wheat products. People have allergies to those, too.
It is a servere allergy and being that the bags are almost meaningless, stop giving them out. I usually bring my own snacks anyway – and that is were there will be a regulation problem. Of course, I am sure the airlines will ban all customer food and require purchase of any snacks so they can make another buck. Can we add a section for people who wear too much perfume!?!
Dear BobDog- My child has a peanut allergy. When he comes into contact with peanuts, his throat continues to swell and he gets hives on his face and neck and his throat would swell completely shut and he would die unless I gave him an Epipen injection. Do some research on this issue. You’re clearly uneducated about this.
Why is AJC banning comments from people who support the ban? I’ve had several posts removed and several that were never posted. Moderator- Stop your BS.
BobDog- Kids die everyday from peanut allergies. You’re just uneducated about this issue. My son has this allergy and I have to take an Epipen everywhere we go. When he comes into contact with peanuts, his throat swells and he would eventually not be able to breath unless I gave him the Epipen injection. Additionally, the Epipen injections do permanent damage to his heart EVERY single time he receives it. You and the other people on this thread need to do research before spewing your stupidity.
A completely unenforceable ban. What are they going to do, put peanuts on the list of prohibited items you cannot carry on and have the geniuses at the TSA try to enforce it? If they’re going to ban peanuts from flights, they better make sure that you can’t buy any from the shops at the airport so that folks won’t try to sneak them on a flight.
Delta in the past has avoided serving peanuts to anyone on our row, the row ahead of us, and the row behind us. We have to call them in advance and request that this take place and they have always complied. Almost always, people complain to the stewardess and she has to explain to them what is going on. Its a little embarrasing for my son because he knows that he is “causing” an inconvenience for other people and he feels bad about it. Sometimes people make retarded comments similar to some of the stuff I’ve read on here along the lines of “Well he shouldn’t be flying on the plane….”
I shore do like me some goobers. I hope tha guvmint don’t jest outlaw ‘em all together, we’ll have ta grow ‘em in secret patches in the national forest.
Chuck- Obviously you didn’t read the earlier posts or else you’d know that kids can die without actually EATING the peanuts. Coming into contact with peanut shells or peanut oil residue can also be fatal. Again- Do 5 minutes of research before showing the rest of the world how ignorant Atlanta is.
Give me a break.
What airlines need is a management group that can run the business properly.
No meals on the plane, no blankets on the plane, no pillows on the plane, take away your leg room charge you for your luggage checked, charge you for your luggage carried on board, see if the flight attendants can get any pushier————- and now no peanuts———– the whole thing amounts to peanuts.
why not take a different approach
Treat your customer like you want to have them.
Fly on time
Maintain your planes.
if the flight is not profitable stop it.
if the flight is profitable promote it.
Treat your personel well so they want to treat your customers well
It is not that hard.
What the heck is going on? Should the government also ban individuals from carrying on packs of cheese crackers with peanut butter? How about peanut coated Payday candy bars. Have the left-wing butt-heads that ooze empathy from every pore taken over everything? And (@Kendale above)…wouldn’t it save just one life to ban air travel so that no plane would ever crash? What about the people that have gluten, chocolate, milk, allergies. Do we think that some food might accidently fly in their mouths during flight? GET A GRIP! Why am I responsible for making other people not eat something? It is time for a revolution against stupidity!
Arby- Again, thanks for showing everyone how stupid people in Atlanta are. Kids can die WITHOUT EATING the peanuts. Your peanuts could kill another child without them eating them. Also, the other allergies you mentioned aren’t even in the same ballpark as peanuts in terms of fatality odds and the level of protection that must be taken.
Left wing nut jobs? I’m a conservative and I listed to Glenn Beck in the afternoons. The difference between you and me is that I actually have researched this issue and know what I’m talking about. Its really sad that everyone on this blog assumes that the only deaths occur when kids EAT the peanuts. Its idiocy like this that causes problems for people with this issue.
Guess you never know what subject will hit the daily blog home run. Six pages (so far) regarding nuts on planes. Oh well I’ll bite, I say you keep the peanuts and also start serving 6 1/2 oz cokes in bottles to put them in. Stay tuned folks – next week we’ll talk about R.C.’s and moon pies at the tractor pull.
I wish the peanut ban supporters would link to any news article about a specific incident where someone had a severe allergic reaction from being near someone eating peanuts. They only have anecdotal stories because it is not a real issue. I have done research and not on hysteria causing parenting websites.
Where do we draw the line in regards to allergies? This is a tricky one folks. I realize that some folks can have a reaction to just touching a peanut. But what do these folks when they are out and about? Do they ask restaurant patrons not to eat food that may contain peanuts? What about going to a sporting event?
Humm, I am not sure what is the proper way to handle this, but whatever is decided, there are those that won’t like the outcome.
Some people have allergies bad enough to peanuts that if they touch a surface (such as the seat) and then touch their face or skin that can cause them to break out and initiate a reaction. People can be that sensitive to peanuts/peanut dander and we all know how well they clean the planes these days. Too many people are not mindful of others to respect how severe someones allergy can be. If their allergy is that bad most carry epi-pens but that only gives you 15 mins to get medical attention..guess all of you want an emergency landing to further delay your trip.
I don’t completely understand the peanut allergy thing, and how serious it can be. But, I swear, some of the comments on this blog are completely ignorant and exhausting to read! Some people just seem to think the world revolves around them. They are so caught up in their own selfishness, they will say anything. Why are there comments about the President? Why are there comments about people’s weight? They should just make a flight for all the selfish —holes. (SA) flight for all the smokers, clogne/perfume dousers, peanut eaters, and overweight haters. Take your own flight!!!
Great questions, John. Regarding sporting events, the Atlanta Braves sponsor a “peanut-free” baseball game every year. The park bans peanuts for this 1 night and cleans the seating areas the day of the game so that it is safe to bring children with this allergy to a baseball game. Several other minor league teams (Birmingham Barons and also the team in Mobile I think) do this as well.
As a parent who has administered the epipen and wondered if my child was going to survive the anaphylaxis caused by breathing near another child who was eating peanuts, I would support the ban. We haven’t traveled on a plane since our child was diagnosed with a peanut allergy 6 years ago. It is scary and traumatic. I was unaware of the severity of peanut allergies until it happened to my child. I guess ignorance is bliss for those of you who have never experienced this. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of food-related deaths. You can check out peanut allergy and allergy and asthma foundation websites for the statistics. I hope you insensitive jerks never experience this with a family member. Due to you inability to believe, your family member would likely die.
Banning peanuts for everyone because of alergies of a few makes no sense at all. Besides I’ve never heard of someone so alergic that they couldn’t be in the same room with a peanut.
“Of all the fatal allergic reactions, peanut allergies top the list. This actually amounts to about 100 people per year in the USA, which is 100 people too many, but hardly compares to the risk of driving, or being born for that matter.
Still, with roughly 150 fatalities related to allergies per year in the USA, the 100 related to a peanut allergy makes this particular allergy seem very dangerous.
More common are the less severe, but still alarming (or at least annoying) symptoms that many peanut allergy sufferers must endure should any peanut fragment cross their lips.
Certainly, the 15,0000 emergency room visits per year demonstrates that a peanut allergy is by no means trivial.”
Just because you have a child who has an alergy, doesn’t give you the right to dictate the lives of the rest of the world, or to call anyone a jerk because they don’t agree with you.
We have become a ridiculously soft society!! I agree with the post that say a delay for an allergic reaction will cost more than the meager benefit of having peanuts during a flight; however, if you have an allergy it is your responsibility to steer clear of the particular allergen. It is not the entire world’s responsibility to pad every corner and safety proof every inch of earth for you. There are few, less than 1%, deaths reported in adults by skin contact of a peanut. You have better chance of having a fatal reaction via skin contact with pollen (something we know a whole lot about in Atlanta). If your allergies are so extereme that you can not touch a surface that once had a peanut on it, then you don’t need to fly or you need to be on constant allergin blockers or something. There are a whole lot more things on a seat of an airplane to worry about than peanuts. Do you check to see whats on the counter or whats been on a table of a restaurant before you eat there…I bet you don’t!
After saying all of that, I will concede that airlines need to quit the snacks all together. We have become a greedy, obese society mainly because we can’t do anything without there being food involved. Does that little bag of snacks really sustain anyone or are you just as hungry and in search of food when you get off the plane? Buy or bring your own food if you just can’t wait!
Lastly, lets look into the future. If the general population lobbies hard enough to keep snacks and the allergic people lobby to ban the peanuts, someone at the airlines will come up with the bright idea of buying “all natural” or “organic” snacks which will cost them an additional 50 cents per case and cost us an additional 50 dollars per ticket.
DMAC- its not the being in the same room “plane” that is usually the problem. The problem is ususally that someone eats peanuts and wipes their hands on any surface. Someone with a severe food allergy can come behind and it they touch that same surface this can cause a reaction to start that can lead to anaphylaxis and death without immediate medical attention, (and talking within minutes, no longer than five). Airlines are not wiping/cleaning down planes between flights anymore. Not saying ban or no ban is right but being educated on what anaphylaxis is and how severe and numerous this peanut allergy is is the key.
I am not dictating. As I stated, I have not flown with my child since diagnosis by my choice. The “jerks” comment was not toward rational comments, as yours were DMac. It was toward the people who insinuated that severe peanut allergies were lies. It had nothing to do with whether a ban on planes is right or not. However, you are correct and I should not have stated my opinion with that wording. That was a jerk thing for me to do based on the emotions involved with the memory of my child in the hospital after an allergic reaction to peanuts. I apologize.
I would support a ban, because I have an understanding of the reasoning behind it. However, I am not going to demand that it happen just so I can fly with my child.
If you, or your child, has that severe a reaction to peanuts (or anything else for that matter), then you should not fly or eat out. It’s not the rest of the world’s responsibility to conform to your wants or needs.
DMAc- According to your logic, this too should be OK-
“My hobby is carrying around a loaded pistol and occasionally firing into crowds. If I hit someone, its their fault. They can’t dictate to me how I live my life or where I shoot my gun. Its perfectly fine for me to be selfish, not consider other’s needs, and live my life however I choose. If you can’t handle a bullet from my pistol, then you shouldn’t have been in the crowd!”
Peter19 should be embarrassed for the ignorant comparison of firing a gun into a crowd with eating a peanut on a plane. You need to log off and give your peanut brain a rest.
Both actions result in death of an innocent bystander. Thats the point. Sometimes it takes a ridiculous comment to educate the morons that continue to pretend that this isn’t a real issue. And the morons continue to complain about their rights being taken away….We’re talking about eating peanuts on a plane. Is it asking too much for you to give that up, especially when considering the consequences?
I am allergic to peanuts and tree nuts. I also have a job where I travel a lot. Just having a “buffer zone” around me does no good- there is still peanut residue all over the seat, seat belt, and tray from the previous passengers. Just last week I had a bunch of crushed peanuts on my seat when I boarded. I had to use the throw-up bag to scrape them off!
Luckily, I’m not severely allergic (I would have to ingest at least 1/4 of a peanut), so by keeping my hands away from my face, not eating while on the plane, using lots of sanitizer, and washing my hands as soon as I’m back in the airport has kept me safe so far. But flying is still scary and I have to be vigilant.
I know some people will balk at having peanuts banned on planes. But I would tell them that if the situation was reversed, I’d be happy to do without peanuts during the flight if it meant they would be safer. A peanut allergy has deadly consequences. Is it that big of a deal to go without something for a few hours so that others can be safe?
If you are that allergic to peanuts, don’t fly. If airlines don’t serve them, I will certainly have peanut products carried on for myself and my kids. Get over yourself…I’m so sick of the “peanut allergy” crowd insisting that all peanut products will kill them….most folks are not that allergic or even have the allergy at all.
Anyone suffering from a life-threatening allergy should take responsibility for protecting him- or herself. Buy and wear a special allergen-filtering mask when flying or going into any environment where you might inhale that particular allergen. I need oxygen 24/7, but I don’t expect everyone to have it at my disposal – I carry it with me. It’s MY problem, not anyone else’s!
Joy- I understand your position on this issue. You have every right to carry peanuts on the plane with you and rub them all over the seats. Thats your right. It also makes you a complete insensitive ahole. I hope for your sake that you and your insensitive kids don’t kill someone else’s children.
And Barb- I didn’t realize there was a “peanut allergy” crowd. Did you learn to hate them on Glenn Beck or some other place? I mean, no one should infringe on your rights, right? You’re an insensitive uncaring, American ahole and other people’s lives aren’t your problem, right?
Don’t judge unless you have the allergy. My son (4 1/2) is allergic to peanuts. We fly often, and he is not bothered being around peanuts (THANKFULLY!) – but he has a classmate who stopped breathing (because of his peanut allergy) from being in the same room with peanuts – this child cannot even go to a ball game. Some people are that sensitive. And to compare it to cigarettes… really? To smoke is a choice. To have a fatal food allergy is NOT a choice. Grow up people. And educate yourself on food allergies. You’d be surprised how many things contain “Traces” of peanuts, or are “made in a factory” with peanuts. Accidental inhalation of second-hand smoke may set off my asthma (yes, I, the mom have asthma), but it won’t kill me. The dust from those peanuts eaten on a plane can KILL a person with a severe allergy. Schools won’t ban peanuts, but if airlines see the danger and are willing to ban them for the safety of passengers, I’m all for it.
Like I said, don’t judge until you’ve head to live it. You have no idea.
To the people that say “dont fly then” im sure you enjoy your vacations and time away. Although not as common, my son is one of the few that is deadly allergic to peanuts, just the smallest particle of peanut dust can cause a serious reaction, or death. Does this mean my 5 year old should never see the world? Never fly to Disney? I know its not your problem, but dont you think you could go 5+ hours without peanuts to save a life? Im sure you do it daily…I would never wish this on anyone, but pretend it was your kid, its not easy for the parents either.. but we try to live our lives like other kids get to live. Im for the ban, although inconvenient, its only a few hours…
Get real. I carry my own peanuts, am I now to be searched and relieved of yet another object of “contraband” by government? This is ridiculous. So airlines don’t want to give anything away on flights anymore, but don’t be idiotic and support something as overboard as declaring peanuts on a common carrier illegal.
I have asthma. The severity of asthma ranks right up there with a pregnant woman in labor. A hospital, ambulance, police, have to treat me and bring me to a stabilized state NO MATTER WHAT. Peanut allergies are not given that same severity or protection.
Two words “adult responsibility”. How about people be responsible for themselves and their children and not force the rest of the world to bend their service. When I was a child my asthma was severe. I could not be near cigarette smoke or carpets made of a certain type of fiber (among other things). This was late 70’s early 80’s when shag carpet could still be found, and smoking was still permitted everywhere. If my mother ran into someone smoking, she moved me. She didn’t bother that person or lecture them on the horrible things his smoke was doing to her child, she took the RESPONSIBILITY as a parent and moved her child. If we went somewhere, office or home, that had carpet, she kept me in a chair or in her lap and did not allow me to go to the floor no matter how badly I wanted to play or what the others were doing. It was her RESPONSIBILITY as a parent to make the call for me, not to make everyone else change just because of me.
I continue to be shocked at the level of ignorance regarding peanut allergies both by those who have no familiarity with the subject and those who believe that their familiarity with what they believe is a related subject (e.g., asthma, food intolerance, other non-life threatening food allergies). A peanut allergy should not be compared to food intolerance or a food allergy that is not life threatening because a peanut allergy is life threatening. And while maybe 150 people die each year from a peanut allergy, that has far more to do with the extreme life altering steps taken to protect those (mostly children) who suffer from this condition than it does the seriousness of the threat.
This also has nothing to do with being PC though I understand it’s easier to throw that blanket statement out there than it is to educate yourself about the real issues associated with peanut allergies. Keep these FACTS in mind:
1) the number of individuals diagnosed with life threatening peanut allergies TRIPLED between 1997 and 2007;
2) there is neither a cure nor treatment for a peanut allergy – avoidance is all that can be done to assist those who have been diagnosed; and
3) an individual with a peanut allergy CAN DIE as a result of exposure (for some this means ingestion, for others inhalation is sufficient).
Take it from someone who was as ignorant as many of the rest of the posters on this board until his 2 year old daughter was diagnosed with a peanut allergy – educate yourself before you start spouting off and belittling the very real threat peanut allergies pose.
I’d just like to point out something in response to point #1 in jmb’s post
“1) the number of individuals diagnosed with life threatening peanut allergies TRIPLED between 1997 and 2007;”
Obesity more than tripled during that same time frame. (No I’m not saying all people with peanut allergies are obese. Let me clear that up before someone runs with it.) As a society we have beat down our immune systems to hell and back. We eat crap, crap, crap all day long. Feed this same crap to our children then wonder why they have sooooooooo many ailments that either all together did not exist 20 years ago or were extremely rare. When was the last time you saw a kid in a stroller with a carrot stick in his hand? When was the last time you saw a kid in a stroller with some unidentifiable red drink in a bottle? We don’t take in the nutrients, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, etc etc that our body needs to be truly health and combat all these allergies and we pass on our weak immune systems fetuses and our bad eating habits to toddlers and wonder why by the time they are 4 they have been diagnosed with 20+ allergies, ADHD, and a host or other symptoms, syndromes, and disorders.
Jmd, this is not what I think I know, this is what I have learned from doing my own reading of medical journals, nutrition guides, and a host of other literature and from speaking to nutitionist, dieticians, OBGYNs, cardiologists, and internists. Feel free to call up any doctor and verify.
JaiRS -
All very true. Not sure what that has to do with whether peanuts should be banned on airplanes though. Are you suggesting that because we as a nation are to blame for the prevalence of these allergies that we shouldn’t take the necessary steps to protect children diagnosed with them?
If you have a child with a severe peanut allergy (airborn allergy)you would have an understanding of the life threatening situation a child could be put in.Really do you need a bag of peanuts on a plane? The answer is NO
Peanut allergy is among the most severe, and it generally persists into adulthood, along with shellfish allergies. Other allergies are less common in adulthood. This is not about crazy kids and parents. It is about a changing disease landscape that we do not yet fully understand. Just because you aren’t allergic now does not mean that you might not suffer an anaphylactic reaction later. The first reaction is always unexpected. It has come to the point that peanuts just do not belong in public places. They certainly do not belong in mid-air in a closed cabin flying over an ocean, where help could never be within reach.
Really, how hard is it for you critics to get off your ideological horses and just eat something else, to preserve someone’s life? A little civic-mindedness, here, please!
Justine- You do realize that the USA is larger than most of the countries that you are referring to, and we happened to have an ocean on either side of us… right? Other countries of the world can travel for two hours and be in another country. It would be like us traveling to another state, and I would bet that most Americans travel to other states as much or more than people in other countries travel trans-country.
I hear this argument all the time, and most of the time it is condesending toward Americans without the understanding that Americans aren’t simply staying home our of arrogance… it is just that we have to travel FAR to get out of the country. These other countries you refer to can spend $100 by train and be in another country… we simply can’t.
Jmb – what I am suggesting is that adults with these allergies or responsible parents of children with these allergies 1. need to realize that they are a major cause of the problem (maybe not the entire cause), definitely not everyone else 2. accept that this is a situation you need to take charge of, not force the rest of the world to bend b/c of a small segment of the population and choices they have made that are now showing an impact on their life and the life of their offspring.
As a society we have taking political correctness and empathy way too far. No one has to have any accountability for anything, just make people feel sorry for them and get enough soccer moms and that one overly empathetic politician with no other thoughts in his head to scream loud enough and the whole nation and possibly the whole world will have to bend.
Its not that I just have to have peanuts at any given moment, its just the principle of the matter. What’s next? This is a waste of time, resources, and federal legislation if it gets that far.
Cigarette smoke triggers life threathening asthma attaks in children and adults. Have you ever tried to get a die hard smoker to move just a few feet left so you could breathe? How many buildings have posted signs, “no smoking in this area”, but you still see smokers huddle around the doorway forcing people to walk through that cloud of crap. There’s your civic mindedness…out the window and up in smoke! Bottom line the whole world should not have to bend. You make the necessary accomidations for your particular ailment.
It’s not as simple as ingestion exposure. Other routes of exposure are created by other passengers’ consumption of peanuts in the cabin. Your rigid adherence to the anti-government principle of “don’t tell me what to do” could cost someone their life. Where is the satisfaction in that? Given your principle of unwavering unsympathy, you must also oppose being restricted from parking your car in a designated handicap spot? Look, why not just be kind and choose a different principle to adhere to – maybe the principle of compassion for the less fortunate among us? Please just eat something else.
No. I don’t support a total ban on peanuts on airplanes or anywhere else. First, why is government getting involved in this issue? Many travelers have allergies, everything from animals, which often are carried on planes, to scents, such as the cologne and perfume people wear. Are we going to legislate those?
We must pick our battles in this country. The extremely low percentage of people with a peanut allergy allows us to address the issue on a case-by-case basis, which airlines already are doing. The greater issue is obesity. Peanuts are packed with nutrition and have high satiety, which means a few go a long way toward making us feel full for a long time. When airlines take peanuts off planes, they replace them with less nutritious, less satisfying snacks.
Because it is the job of government to preserve equal access and to protect those with disabilities, including anaphylaxis. This is not an “allergy” like hay fever or sensitivity to perfume, and it’s not a long-term hazard like plastics and fattening food. It is an immediately life-threatening reaction. And the problem is growing. Be honest – those opponents among you wouldn’t miss the peanuts, you’d just miss the arguments on the message boards.
None of us are saying we want to see someone die or that we just can’t live without peanuts on a plane. All we’re saying, as Pam stated, “We must pick our battles in this country”. The governement, with limited resources, has much more pressing issues to be involved in regarding planes then peanuts. Don’t force a full ban for a small percentage. If you have a special need, find an airline that already has policies in place to deal with that need or make contact with higher ups at the airlines who can make special accomidations, don’t force this on everyone else.
It is called the American Disability Act as for why there would be any government involvement. People who have such a severe life-threatening allergy that it causes anaphylaxis have a hidden disability. They are born with this condition that they cannot help and it is very REAL! Therefore, people with severe allergies have a right just as an other able bodied person to fly on a plane.
And as for the concerts, baseball games, movies, beaches, zoos, restaurants, etc. where one may encounter peanuts or tree nuts it is really not the same as flying. A plane can be 30,000 feet in the air with no possibility of getting to a hospital within the 15-20 minutes after an injection of epinephrine that is needed. A much different scenario than being somewhere where medical attention would be available.
Why is it so hard for airlines to give up a tiny bag of peanuts for the sake of the severe allergic people?
Too many people are allergic to peanuts and some might not even be aware of it. Therefore I think peanuts should be banned from flights. It is difficult to tell a passenger not to consume his/her peanuts because someone close to him/her is allergic , this would call for allowing passengers to change seats, etc. therefore a total ban is appropriate.
I am claustrophobic and don’t like strangers being really close to me. Is that a disability that requires the airline to disadvantage their paying customers? I’d like a buffer zone of at least 10 feet around me.
geez, folks. lighten up. we’re not talking about someone who would “rather not have peanuts” or even someone who gets nauseated by the smell of peanuts. we’re talking about people who have severe, systemic, allergic reactions who lose the ability to breathe. didn’t believe it until i saw a child react this way when someone who ate peanut butter touched her. sure, if you’re that allergic YOU take the precautions, but why should THE REST OF US aggrivate the situation? give us pretzils instead.
Perhaps you should ask Northwest airlines formerly Delta airlines, this ia a hostile takeover from a mgmt group that is horrible , cutthroat , dirty. I am sure they will be more than happy to give a complete statement given the computer in Minneaplois( Headquarters) provides them one. And yes you will pay for them. Nor/Delta and BP should merge seems they both are good at F#$%^ing things upppppppppp with complete apathy through the process.
People, get a grip! Peanut allergies are, in fact, real! Get over yourselves if you think they aren’t. Once you’ve had a child with a peanut allergy, maybe you’d understand. It’s not just just eating them that can kill them. Say you’ve eaten some peanuts in your cramped little chair on the airplane, then wiped your hands on the arm-rests or the seat. Someone with a peanut allergy sits in your seat and dies because they came into contact with the peanuts on the arm-rest or seat. Just being in close proximity to peanuts can cause a reaction…and there’s no closer proximity than being confined in the fuselage of an airliner! If you MUST get mad over something, then blame the FDA. They’re the ones who’ve caused this problem in the first place. No other country in the world has an issue with this, except the good ol’ US of A.
Telling these people (who’ve done absolutely nothing to you) that they can’t fly, shouldn’t fly or be “Quarantined” like a smoker is as crazy as saying maybe they just shouldn’t be allowed to breath during the flight. So you don’t get your little peanuts…..boo friggen hoo! Is that REALLY something you’re gonna get your panties in a twist over? “Well, I want my peanuts…I don’t care if someone else has to die for my right to eat them!”…..Nice attitude to have. Here’s thought….why don’t you stay home rather than inflict yourself on others?!! Some people just need to be beaten with a sock full of bar soap!
Yes, ban them. If some of these people that are commenting had a 4 year old grandchild on that plane that had to have injection for just the smell of peanuts, maybe they would reconsider their stupid comments. When you live in Arizona and your family is in GA, you pretty much have to fly. And they should not have to be isolated and treated like smokers. Smokers have a choice, while people with peanut allergies don’t. I think we can all do without the 5 peanuts in a bag to possibly save a life!
no they should keep them at home ,there is no way that they can be protected say a person has a snickers in their bag and will eat that on a plane if a child is allergic the smell of the candy bar may give them a serious attack.
Well, I’ve been allergic to seafood all of my life. Sometimes, in restaurants (and grocery stores) I’ve learned to “breathe through my mouth”. But then, I have the choice of many, many grocery stores and restaurants to hang around in. There isn’t only once place to go and only one way to get there.
Having said that, I’ve been to the ER with my child, who has a SEVERE peanut allergy. We have to carry epi-pens with us everywhere, it’s so bad. She refuses to fly anywhere, anytime.
Here’s an idea….what if the airline marketed a “peanut free” flight? The marketplace would decide, as it always does in the end.
The airlines charge for everything now – nickel and dime and nickel and dime. How about a “peanut charge”? That will stop the consumption.
Then again, the airlines make the peanut packages so SMALL now, and the actual nuts are so SMALL, that the problem might simply go away due to airline cost cutting anyway.
Good grief. Just because the airlines would have to ban them, doesn’t mean they don’t exist in the world. What if Joe Smith from Plains Ga. in seat 27A brings his own bag? There are stores in the airport that sell them, want to ban them also? Should we blow up I-75 because it runs through peanut country in central Georgia?
Not only should peanuts be banned on planes but peanuts and all related products using peanuts as ingrediants should be banned eveywhere. If it saves just one life it will be worth it, though I’m sure BIG FOOD will lobby to protect the Capitalist Pigs who profit from this deadly product.
Well, if you are going to do that, might as well ban wheat for those with wheat allergies. And milk. And shellfish. And everything else. My daughter’s school has banned peanut butter even though there are NO CHILDREN in the school allergic to it. The rampant stupidity of our society coupled with the greedy lawsuit people makes me sick. If you REALLY want to prevent deaths, stop riding in cars.
My youngest son (8) may have a tree nut allergy. It just came out of the blue one day two months ago and now we are taking him to an allergy clinic. We current live in the UK because my husband is English but all of my family live in Georgia. According to some of you my son should never be able to see his aunts, uncles, cousins and most importantly his Grandpa and Grandma ever again in his entire life just because he has an allergy. When both of my brothers come back from overseas and we get together as a family my son deserves to be there and welcome back his uncles along with the rest of the family.
Now the poor peanut is going to disappear from the starving passengers. Let every aircraft
may put a small vending machine with drinks and snaks, and charge $ 2.00/packet so that the
airlines can make more money. Anyway, flying business is for making money.
“CANDLEWOOD SUITE” : Do not book this hotel, so you do not have to risk sleeping on the street. They accept your booking, but when you arrive at the hotel simply to give to the right in saying that there is no room for you. Plus, if the client did not appear to reserve the hotel, they still charge you, because they are with your credit card number at time of booking. “Candlewood suite” imposes responsibilities to customers, but disclaims any responsibility with the client. She does not respect the cliente. Do not go to this hotel.
I am planning a trip to Destin in 10 days…oil washing ashore as I write. I purchased trip insurance with a cancel for any reason clause, but at a price. I’m torn as to what I should do. I’m paying a high premium for a gulf front location and it’s our first time to this area. I don’t want to pay so much money for an oily view of the gulf and a beach I can not use. I’m going for the clear green waters and the white sand beaches…neither of which will be the same.
I am highly disappointed that the people I’m renting from have not called to ease our concerns or offer a discount in any way. If I cancel, she still gets her money. It’s the insurance company who will have to pay. Seems so unfair. No wonder she seems to care less. I will definately keep this in mind when renting in the future. No repeat customer with her. People renting condos and houses should show some care and concern for those renting from them if they want a good review and a repeat customer. It would certainly go a long way for me if I even heard from her proactively. Still undecided as to what to do…
We are supposed to leave for Destin in 10 days also and still don’t know what to do. If the beaches just have a few small tarballs, I think it would be okay to go down but not sure what it’s going to do in the next 10 days. I read on some internet site that the winds are blowing westward right now which helps but who knows what it will do between now and the 18th. Not sure if we can get a full refund or not if we decide to cancel. We booked with a private condo owner through vrbo.com so not sure what he’s going to do. There’s no information about the oil spill at all on the condo’s internet site so not sure what they’re doing either. I feel for all the people who live in the Gulf and for the wildlife. It’s so sad.
People need to understand that a modern airplane is a unique environment. A great percentage of the air is recirculated. Additionally, nuts (peanuts, in particular) are highly aerosolized. That is why you can smell roasting peanuts from far away. The aerosolized peanut is actually a protein that is an allergen for over three million Americans. That means that a bag of peanuts can be opened on a typical flight and an allergic person sitting ten rows away will still begin to itch and possibly have some serious breathing problems. This is real, not theoretical.
If we have successfully banned smoking on flights, for fear of second hand smoke issues, why would we not ban peanuts?
If Delta wants to support the peanut industry in Georgia, they should serve peanuts to all customers waiting for their flights at airport gates. In that manner, Delta could establish a “down home” feel that can make its passengers feel more relaxed. By serving the peanuts in a larger environment, peanut-allergic passengers will be able to avoid exposure to the dangerous allergens. This is a public relations opportunity.
Why are Delta folk not coming up with such solutions? Are they really that dense and dull-witted? Come on Delta, join the modern world and comply. Don’t wait for a formal ban. Be proactive. This simple problem can be turned around into a PR advantage.
Yes, I support the ban. And, well-informed passengers should do the same.
I feel bad for the people that are alergic to nuts, I feel worse that it got to the point that the Federal Government has to be involved. What’s next, when will it stop? I’d like to ban politicians that waste money and raise taxes so they can waste even more. It is getting to be a real joke.
I understand that some people don’t have regard for the lives of others, but many of the people that have this allergy are CHILDREN!!!
They require us grown ups to protect them and this is what this is about. As a parent of a child with a life threatening PEANUT ALLERGY, I am all for this ban. Unless they can come up with a better idea, I don’t see any option. She doesn’t just get itchy eyes and a runny nose, she could DIE from the reaction. Peanuts are different than some because they are on people’s hands and they are touching the seats and doors, dropped on the floor. The dust can fly around and get into the lungs of an allergic person and then they would die before the plane landed. Is that what you would want on you conscience just so you can have a handful of peanuts?
We take safety measures, but can’t protect her from everything. It can be very limiting and difficult. BUT
We have a right to fly on planes just like everyone else- we have a right to safety, just like everyone else. Maybe there could be some airlines that are peanut free and we could choose to support them instead of others? If it were your child, you would do the same.
what, no peanuts on planes? Oh noooooo, what are we going to do? This is just more government intrusion into our lives, our freedoms are being taken away, blah, blah, blah……
Yea, it’s going to kill me if you take away my 7 peanuts and my half a cup of Coke.
If they do then be sure and ban strawberries and bannans as the are just as deadly or more so. I don’t touch either one of those. Also the little yellow packets of sweetner as what ever is in bananas is in that. The pink packages of sweetner are safe.
I have a shrimp allergy so I will gladly support banning any products that could possibly cause a allergy attack reaction to anyone. Getting all fired up over not having a free bag of peanuts or shrimp salad is beyond being self centered and selfish. Try to understand for any person with severe allergies the emotional fears they go through just flying in a plane that is serving peanuts.To many people with severe allergies to peanuts or shrimp that experience is life threatening. There are no windows to open when your are flying. Practice being understanding towards others that have a serious health issue for a few hours during the flight. Enjoy your peanuts once you are back on the ground. Just because people with allergies do not have wheel chairs or o2 bottles in their nose that others can see their handicap does not mean they do not have a serious emotional & health issues being around allergens….World kindness starts with you!…
Actually, my husband and I typically utilize bed and breakfast inns instead, which have been much quieter than most hotels and with some delicious breakfasts too. They can sometimes be better priced than some hotels too, depending on the location.
For some peanuts pose a life threatening reaction!!!! There are many other alternatives to peanuts; pretzels, chips,crackers, fruit etc. These things are not life threatening, so common sense says serve food safe for all.
“Harry Potter’s world is one of two theme parks located at the Universal Orlando Resort. Visitors can purchase park-to-park tickets, which allow access to both Harry Potter and the Islands of Adventure theme park throughout the day;…”
Ah… have you really ever been to Orlando???
Harry Potter ‘Land’ is one area at Islands of Adventure, one of two theme parks at Universal Florida, the second being… ah… Universal Studios.
Yep, my understanding is that a ticket for Islands of Adventure covers Wizarding World of HP and all the other areas in that park, with Universal Studios being the other park, requiring a separate ticket. We are planning to be there in July, happily melting away while wandering amongst the ’snow’ covered roofs of Hogsmeade. Doubt I will be able to pull myself away from the magic world to explore any of the others. :^)
We are locals here in the sweat drenched Central Florida and are annual pass holers for Universal, we were lucky enough to get in the what we call “Harry Potter Land” Tuesday 4 days before the grand opening on Friday. Luckily the lines were not outrageous because of the hush hushness of it being open already. After our experience there I have to say I would battle the long lines, swim in my drenched with sweat clothes, strand in the always expected summer afternoon rain with a huge smile on my face during it all. Without letting any of the all around the land secrets out…it will be well worth your trip and major “Cool Mom points” to store away for future use. I was AMAZED the entire time we were there and would go back today if it was open (I was told they would be closed to the public for press time) but Thursday is a whole differnt story..so if you see a drenched with sweat 40 year old woman with a huge smile on her face holding a mug of frozed butterbeer standing in the rain…that will be me!
a ticket for Islands of Adventure will get you in to Harry Potter but a Universal Studios ticket will not. A 2 park ticket is available to get you into both but my advice if you are only going for the day go to just Islands of Adventure because there will not be enough time in the day to do both, you will spend half the day if not more just in Harry Potter Land….I not kidding!!!!
We did the soft opening last week while we were guests at Hard Rock Hotel. Like any theme park, the tickets and food/souveneirs are all outrageouly expensive. However, the technology has evolved to where this HP attraction is amazing. Down to the last detail- the case members, ride, and Hogwarts Village is very true to the books & movie. Very impressive special effects and an all-around great attraction. Well done, Universal!
Totally agree with Nancy Urich. If you only have a day, only do Islands of Adventure. Unfortunately, the lines will be long to get into Harry Potter, so you will spend several hours waiting to get on the ride inside the castle. But there’s lots of stuff to look at in the cue line. You won’t have time to do both parks in 1 day with the lines that are anticipated.
Thanks for the clarification on the tickets to Universal Studios/Islands. We have been to Orlando many times, but always seem to do the Disney thing. Now that my kids are older, and frankly due in large part to the Harry Potter park, we are talking about checking out Universal as well. I must have misread the info on the Wizarding World website regarding ticket info. Thanks again!
YES FOR the ban!!!!! I have multiple food allergies. Travel is a nightmare and unable to always avoid. The dust or oil on armrests can trigger an attack. For those how think this is easy to avoid or deal with are uninformed and need to talk to someone who has gone through it. I have, on a plane from Japan to Chicago. My throat became blistered, my tongue swelled from the back to front, I had a full body rash. I had trouble breathing, my pulse raced from the epi injection, the IV steroids I had to adminiser myself and the fear of dying on a plane the pilot cold not out down for my medical emergency. To get an idea of how it feels, put your head in a plastic bag, cut a small hole in the top and have someone lock you in a closet and walk away from you.
Anyone who can’t live without peanuts for the length of a plane ride has a problem.
What’s the big deal with eating peanuts? Are there not a gazillion other things we can eat on a flight? I bet the majority of the ppl. who eat them on flights couldn’t care less. But the minute you threaten their sense of freedom to eat peanuts; all of a sudden they are die hard peanut eaters?? Really? I mean what about “looking out for the other guy”. What about being concerned and considerate to someone with a “disability”? I understand the whole world will not revolve around ppl with food allergies. But can we at least *try* to have a little more compassion for “the least of these”? Would we not do the same for someone with another type of disability? Have we become that loveless as a society?
I would have absolutely no problem with a ban. My niece is severely allergic to peanuts and I have seen her have a reaction (with hives and facial swelling) at a minor league ball game when a guy in front of us was shelling peanuts. It was a windy day and the peanut dust was flying up in her face. When she breathed it in or got it in her eyes, it was tantamount to a minor ingestion according to her allergist. She had to leave the game and be treated with benadryl to bring down the hives and swelling. In an airplane, the option to leave is obviously restricted until the flight comes to an end.
I have also read that studies show that if 20 of those small bags of peanuts are opened on an airplane, they would produce enough peanut dust (it puffs out when the bags are opened) to get into the common air system and cause a reaction in her. Imagine what 200 bags of those little suckers would do to a small child with a severe allergy. When she was an infant (before she was diagnosed), she flew several times and always ended up have explosive diarrhea (nice!), red splotchy skin, and raspy (asthmatic) breathing. No one knew why, but once she was diagnosed after eating peanut for the first time, she started flying on airlines that didn’t serves peanuts, she had absolutely no problem. Fortunately they live in an area served by AirTran, Jet Blue, and US Air, so they are able to fly to visit family and friends that live outside of driving distance. I think the real risk is a person having a severe reaction at 30,000 feet. Obviously, the allergic person isn’t going to eat peanuts, but they can’t avoid breathing. Once a reaction occurs, and the epi-pen is used, the person needs to get to an emergency room a.s.a.p. Personally, I could easily forego eating the few peanuts in that bag, so that someone nearby with an allergy wouldn’t have to worry about breathing in the peanut dust generated from opening up my bag.
I don’t see this issue any differently than providing a ramp for a person in a wheelchair to have access to a building. The life threatening allergy is also a disability; it’s just “invisible” to those that aren’t aware of it.
It makes me sad to hear the peanut industry rejoicing that they have “won” since DOT released a clarification about their inability to legally ban peanuts on flights. If people were truly educated about the dangers of peanut allergy sufferers, they would “get it.” I am a registered nurse and mother of child w/life threatening food allergies including one to peanuts. For us not to fly would be to say to him he could never see his grandfather, aunts, uncles, and cousins. Most people affected by this allergy are young children that rely on the adults around them to keep them safe. Peanuts, for some unknown reason, have been the culprit of most FATAL reactions. What makes peanuts so unsafe for them,you ask? It causes analphylatic shock which can and does lead to death and mere inhalation of peanut dust can and has triggered numerous reactions. Would you like to be seated next to a dying two year old on airplane? I think not. Deaths due to peanuts in children do happen rapidly, we’re talking minutes, not hours. Not enough time to land a large airplane and seek emergency treatment. Currently epinephrine is the only medicine available for it and only can treat the symptoms, not prevent or cure it. And, it does not always work (review the death accounts). So, cheers to the peanut industry and good luck to the airlines. It’s an accident waiting to happen.
I have a seafood allergy but fly on many international flights where there is a seafood option and am sensitive to perfume but don’t see heavy perfume being prohibited. I don’t propose a ban but certainly sensitivity to others.
I fully support a peanut ban on airplanes. I can abstain from eating peanuts during a flight if it’ll spare the life of someone who is allergic to them. If smokers can fly without a cigarette, people can fly without eating peanuts. Once you land you can indulge at your destination and everyone is happy. The peanut farmers can still grow their peanuts and sell them in stores worldwide. It doesn’t mean people will stop buying or eating them if the airlines ban them.
I love all of the lovely cities that you have mentioned…beautiful and charming no doubt, but you left one out that I dearly love, and that is Natchez, Ms. Natchez, although small, is one of the most charming and romanatic southern towns that you can visit. For someone who wants to escape the hectic city life, Natchez can take you back in time, and have you feeling as tho’ you are Scarlet and Rhett Butler, as you stroll along it city streets surrounded by historic antebellum mansions. If interested, please visit my website Mirrored Reflections…agathaweeks.com, and click on Birthplace of the Belle, and Christmas in Natchez, My Home Town, to see just how special Natchez really is…come now…site secured by McAfee
Keith: Great post! I challenge you to start making your plans to visit Independence, Missouri next year for the fourth right now. Somehow watching fireworks while listening to live patriotic music is much more exciting than keeping time or singing along with a radio.
Vancouver, BC. I went there in August of 2007 and it was the best vacation of my entire life. I almost cried when it was time to come home. If I ever win the lottery, I’m moving there!! We went to Vancouver and stayed in a Marriott right by Stanley Park, which is a huge park off of downtown. Absolutely stunning. So much to do outside there, and the weather was low to mid 70s during the day, so it was great. Long sleeves in the morning, and a t-shirt and jeans in the afternoon, or just push your sleeves up. We took a day trip up to Whistler and did a Zip-Line, which was awesome (but not for little kids, maybe 12 or so and up). We didn’t stay overnight, but I wish we had, because there was so much to do there (hiking on the glaciers, mountain biking, etc). We also took a ferry out to Victoria and spent the night there. The Dragon Boat Festival was going on, so that was neat to see. Vancouver has the PNE, which was a big fair going on, and they had a Bard on the Beach theater (Shakespeare). These guys don’t get a really long summer, but I can tell you, they sure know how to enjoy it. When my son gets a few years older, I think I’ll be repeating that vacation and taking him with me this time! Maybe next time, we won’t leave. Wonder what Canada’s immigration policy is like………
If your goal was to get away from the heat you wouldn’t have been going to the Florida beaches in the first place. I never thought of Minnesota summers as being much cooler and I know people say the humidity is bad there as well.
I second the idea of Vancouver, or other Canadian cities like Montreal and Toronto. I was in Vancouver last summer and needed a light jacket at night. San Francisco is similar. I just returned last week from 9 days and needed a jacket every day, highs in the mid to upper 60’s, lows in the mid 50’s. July is reportedly the coldes month in San Francisco.
A late posting, to be sure, but I had not seen this news. We lived on SSI in the 60’s &70’s; I worked at the Cloister twice, once in housekeeping during high school, and again in the dining room several years later.
The employees knew “their place”, and we kept that tongue-in-cheek. Even though we viewed Sea Island with a healthy dose of irreverence, we all took a great deal of pride in delivering the sort of service that made our guests happy to be there and look forward to coming back. To this day, I enjoy having being a small part of a long tradition of elegance and quality.
Our guests were just that – guests. They were clearly of an economic class several notches above us, but never once did they attempt to lord it over the staff. Most of them were friendly, even gracious. I learned how to deal with people there, and I still believe that everyone should wait table, if only for long enough to find out if one has what it takes to do it well. The experience has served me well for a long time and in many ways.
When an employee made a suggestion to improve service, it was taken seriously. If a guest wanted something returned to the kitchen for any reason, we were told to discard it. Mr. Chalfa was the maitre d’, and he told me not to worry about costs – “we have accountants who do that.” – just worry about providing the best service. He was hard to please, but if you did, you knew it was because you were one of the best.
When Sea Island got started, the Depression put a hurting on them, too. When there was no cash for paychecks, many of the hired help kept right on doing their jobs. The kitchen kept them fed, and even let some good food go home to their families. Their loyalty was repaid in kind; when I was working there the first time, there were a few old guys who had free room and board at the employee dorms, and would until the end of their days. Alfred Jones intended to keep his promises.
Pity his descendants strayed from his vision.
I went on vacation to Seattle and Vancouver last month (June 2010). The temps in Seattle during the day was in the high 60’s and in Vancouver low 70’s. I absolutely LOVED Vancouver – it was such a BEAUTIFUL place (and both Seattle and Vancouver were a great escape from the heat!) Would definitely want to travel back to Vancouver again for vacation!
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You need to send people to Destin, Florida. The media says the oil is on our beach and it is not. You can look at web cams at Gulfarium and other places in Destin, Florida and see that we are not affected. The Oil is from Pensacola to Galvaston. ( and is not as bad as they say (media) When the media says beaches of Florida, They need to specify. Our Waters are still emerald green and we have the whitest sand beaches. Thank you for coming to visit and supporting our tourism. If you are not here you are missing out. Go to Destin Chamber of Commerce for pictures.
We have been in Destin, Florida for sometime…. You can get an idea where the oil is on the noaa.gov site. there is map that shows where it is. The tar balls that wash up on okaloosa beach are so small you can hardly see them. They are cleaned up every morning before people go to the beach. Destin, Florida has no oil and never has it came close and the God pushes back and faraway from Destin, Florida. If you have not been to Destin, Florida you have missed out. God was having a great day when he created it.
As I read these comments, I find myself completely taken back and extremely frustrated at what the media has done in portraying the devastation of the oil spill on the Gulf of Mexico. I am a resident of Destin, Florida and have lived here for several years now. I come in contact with the waters of the Emerald Coast daily, as I work on a Dolphin Cruise. I want to express my sympathy for the tourists who had vacation plans to this area, but who were deceived by the media to think that there is oil on the beaches, because it’s not. I come in contact with people every day who tell me how concerned they were about their vacation plans to Destin being ruined by the oil, but decided to come anyway. As one man put it, “If I wanted to find oil on the beaches of Destin, I would have to buy some.” As to the media who have taken this current situation and completely reported false facts, I would like you to get off your computer and your phone, and take a trip down here for yourself. Your facts are wrong, which makes your reports opinionated and not factual. The media has done more damage to Destin, Florida than the oil has. I am aware that the oil has hit areas that are close to this area, and that the oil has caused damage beyond comprehension to other areas, but know that when you report the damage for the entire Gulf of Mexico, you are terribly wrong. As for now, people are still enjoying the waters of the Emerald Coast by going on cruises and even fishing and we plan on it staying that way if the media will try to report positively rather than falsely.
I have read a few other websites related to this subject in the past few days in doing a research report for my boss. I have to say that what you’re saying here makes perfect sense and is helping me to get my head around this subject. Do you have any other websites you could recommend to help my research?
I have been screened this way twice since last xmas. I wasn’t that concerned about it but if there are health issues, then I think the use should be limited to cases where there is a real concern about the individual.
If the under-educated, self-important, unqualified, Affirmative Action-hired screener finds your body attractive, and if they can get away with it, the image of your body WILL be kept and/or shared.
Why do you call them “full-body scanners”? They are strip-search machines. I haven’t flown in more than a year and TSA is the main reason. I have no problem with the price of airfares. I have no false sense of modesty. (I’m sure the screeners pass boredom by watching for ostomies, breast and penile implants.) Rather, it’s the humiliation of being subject to a strip search which I choose to avoid. I travel long distances — recently to Reno, Denver, Charleston, several trips to New York — and I drive! It used to be fun to fly. My wife and I would drive to Atlanta Hartsfield Airport just to take long walks in its air-conditioned tunnels. Thanks TSA and Moslems. I’ve decided that human dignity is more important than phoney TSA safety screening.
Yes, TSA has been trying to force people through these things. I have been a very frequent business flyer for a quarter of a century. Just the other day, when I was only three people back in the line, the TSA people suddenly blocked off the old magnetic scanner and started forcing people through the PornoScan. This was only a few weeks since the same thing happened at another airport.
Everyone who believes in personal freedom and dignity should do what I do — flatly refuse and demand a frisking. If enough people protest by refusing, perhaps we can get somewhere with having these things removed after the coming November elections. Make absolutely no mistake — the feds are trying to virtually strip-search American citizens because (1) government wants more power over us, (2) cowardly politicians are willing to let the Muslims win, and (3) well-connected vendors want to make millions of tax-payer dollars selling these PornoScans. You and I are supposed to be good little sheep and do as we are told. Sorry, not me.
This is a sham from the word go. Our southern borders are (basically) wide open to a sea of illegal invaders (destroying our infrastructure…on the taxpayers “fiat” dollar(s)), and the the illegit TSA has to shake down 90 year old women & other “dangerous suspect”. This is all about expanding the (Globalist Elite controlled) fedgov control grid & trampling on our Constitutional rights.
This is another late entry. My wife and I have been going to The Cloister since about 1982. It was just wonderful. But, Bill Jones seems to have gotten grandiose in his vision. He decided to remodel to become the best resort in the world, and basically left his base of Southeastern clients. I think that he would have failed even without the downturn in real estate the last two years. If he is stroking his ego that the economy ruined him, then he should rethink this. He left the roots of Georgia, Florida, SC, and NC. What a waste. The best thing that one could do was to upgrade to be ocean front. You could barely afford what you were doing, but it was The Cloister so let’s upgrade to the beach. The food charge will be the same, but we will be like the wealthy for the week. It was worth saving for this opportunity.
Tear down the new beach club and rebuild the numerous rooms that gave us all a chance to be on the beach in paradise. Bring back the American Plan for meals. Where is our Cloister, Mr. Jones.
we are talking about full body x-rays here that is a HUGE heath concern. this is not your average dentist check up x-ray which is limited to a small part of your body.
don’t go true a body scanner unless you want to get skin or eye cancer in 10 years.
but its all good – it is just about the same radiation you get on a days mountain trip in a quarter second . it is the exposure TIME what matters not the amount. while the human body is perfectly able to coup with small amounts of radiation over a long time, the health effects of even small amounts of radiation within short time are UNKNOWN. nobody knows if your cancer came from a x-ray you took 10 years ago!. fact is: we x-ray today like we take photos on a vacation and cancer numbers and other DNA related diseases are exploding.
Most people prefer the Folkston entrance, but they have just rebuilt the viewing tower in Waycross, so there is some hoopla over that. Go to http://www.folkston.com/trains/trains.htm to find out about a unique train-viewing experience available there.
TheStephenFoster Park entrance, near Fargo, is by far the most scenic and pristine entry into the swamp. Will take longer from the east, but well worth it.
We prefer the Stephen C. Foster State Park because they have lovely CCC-era cabins and within a short stroll are rental boats. You can park your car and not use it until you leave.
Bring lots of water for your trip through the swamp and even more bug spray. You’ll get drenched with sweat but it is a delightful adventure in the park. You can canoe on your own or with a guide. We prefer the guides when we take the kids or family so they can get a great history of the swamp. Most of the guides have been there many, many years and a few grew up in the swamp. If you can get out to the Chesser homestead on the Folkston side, do it. Sometimes the Chesser children that grew up in the house come back to talk to the visitors. We went one day and spent 2 hours talking to one of the daughters (she was 90) as she quilted on the front porch. If you can make it Stephen Foster, it’s worth a trip as well. Maybe even get brave and stay over night in one of the cabins. And bring lots of water and bug spray, lots, trust me.
I’ve done two overnight canoe jaunts through the swamp. The advice to hit Steven Foster park is the right advice for a canoeing or kayaking day trip. It is the most gorgeous aspect of the swamp, and is the traditional vision of what a swamp should look like. It’s a short 30-minute or so paddle across open water to the most beautiful areas of the swamp; totally immersed. I can’t speak to the educational or other features of the Steven Foster entrance, but it’s great for a paddle.
It’s so refreshing to see reader responses that are polite and positive. So many of these posts turn into rants and raves and fights. Kudos on the article and on the great responses.
I have never been to the swamp, but was fortunate enough to stay near a river/swamp while working in Gainesville a decade or so ago. I always wanted to go on a vacation to the swamp since that Gainesville trip, and all of these responses are very helpful .. and making me want to go right away. Thanks for all the tips everyone!
I visited the Okefenokee for the first time about two years ago and chose to stay at Stephen C. Foster State Park as I wanted to camp out for a couple of days. The 90 minute boat tour is great and if you search Youtube you will find 3 videos of the Swamp Tour that I posted shortly after my trip. It was only myself and the park guide on the boat. We were able to see 4-5 alligators on the tour. One of them we were pretty close to as it was laying out on some of the blowups. I went in late August and at that time there weren’t any baby gators out and about. If you had the time I would recommend camping out for a couple of days. There is the museum there at the park, but also another one just before you turn on the road to the park. It’s also really nice and while going in I was able to see a Rat Snake, I think, wandering around the sandy river area near by.
I took my daughter about 15 years ago and we rented a jon boat and outboard motor at the Folkston entrance. It was a very neat experience and we talked about it just the other day, she is in college! Recommend bug spray, GPS if you go without a guide as we did, water, snacks, and the most important CAMERA!
The swamp is fun for the youngsters and quite scenic for us old folk.We also reside part time in St Simons and have also “discovered” Sapelo Island. Gret day trip.Gotta catch the ferry-nobrodges stop lights or fast food. Check out the reynolds mansion(built in the roaring 20’s with no expense spared) and meet the gullah families(some of the nicest people) . It was much better than cumberland island.Check it out –you won’t be disappointed.
I remember back in the early 70’s, I went a couple of years with my Explorer group camping on Billys Island for a week during spring break. I had a whale of a time ruffin’ it. I loved it and recommend that any one that has this opportunity should take it. Like Jimmy Dean says, “Ain’t none better.”
I wouldn’t worry about trying to go to the Waycross entrance if you go to Stephen Foster. It’s quite a long drive between the two. I’ve been going to the swamp all my life, and love staying at Stephen Foster and renting the jon boats. If you could snag a cabin there for one night – DO IT. you’ll need to bring food though.
You don’t need a GPS if you don’t have a guide, there’s really not many places to get lost, as long as you don’t take the jon boat down a closed canoe trail, or go on some crazy walkabout on Billy’s Island!!
bring bug spray, sunscreen lots of water, and hats!! i’d only bring the bikes if you stay overnite. not much riding except back down the road you came in on. there’s a small boardwalk area there around the boat docks.
it’s always a good time in the swamp, and don’t worry about the gators, they stay out of your way. i’d rent the jon boat over the canoes if you have any concerns of your kids not being able to maneuver a canoe, and if you’re only there for a day, you’ll see more. it’s much different in the swamp than messing around on a lake, wondering if something lies beneath!!!! chomp!!
it is a GREAT place that so many people have never been, thinking “swamp” means yucky or something. once they actually get in there and see it, they are amazed at how beautiful it is. I hope y’all have a great time.
Have done 2 or 3 multi-day trips through the swamp. Highly recommend after mosquito season since I have been there in different season. Is a tantastic place to visit and is really fun to have a raccoon walk across your chest in the middle of the night on one of the camping platforms. Also, night time gator eye viewing was great! Have a great time! I need to bring my kids and grandkids on a visit now.
I took my boys to the park through the entrance near Folkston in June 2000. At that time, the swamp was experiencing a drought so we couldn’t rent a motorboat, only a canoe. Most of the alligators were in the canal so we saw quite a few very close to our canoe. Lots of bugs and humidity but still an incredible experience. We rented a tiny cabin right outside the park entrance. We went back in December a couple of years later and stayed at one of the cabins at Stephen C. Foster State Park. The water level was up so we were able to rent a motorboat and go out to Billy’s Island and explore the remnants of the old logging town. We didn’t see even one alligator on our second trip to the swamp but did see many birds and other wildlife. We got a different perspective of the swamp from each trip.
I took my 3 Granddaughters ( 1 age 7, 2 age 5) to the Waycross entrance last year. They still ask me to take them back. Sunscreen and bug spray are a must. We did the 90 minute boat trip and saw many ‘gators. We caught Okefenokee Joe’s serpent show. The ole time village showed the girls how Nana grew up in rural Georgia in the fifties. They still don’t believe me. All staff were friendly and our experience was educational.
I think that being detained could be a mental health issue both from stress if running late, and possibly revive painful memories of powerlessness. People are pulled without warning or explanation.
People should have a variation of Miranda rights explaining option of pat down or not flying. I would have chosen not to fly.
The guard in Tampa pulled the person into a machine and said only “raise hands, spread legs”. After leaving the xray area, a guard, without smile or word, simply blocked the exit from the area for 2? minutes (possibly while the film was developed?). Her only comment when I asked when I could leave was “Patience is a virtue” and finally “Female clearned” into her headset as she stepped aside.
In the meantime, I wonder if they keep and disaggregate demographic data about the age, race, gender, nationality. It seems like human nature to “randomly select” people who will not protest too much.
How does this expensive misuse of tax dollars help national security?
Looks like the TSA spokespeople have either been willfully ignorant or deliberately lying when they have said the machines don’t store images. Today’s headline: Feds admit storing checkpoint body scan images (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20012583-281.html)
I’m 100% behind total ban of peanuts on planes. Think about it from the allergy sufferer: my daughter – at this moment literally having to beg cabin crew to withdraw nuts. She suffered a reaction on her outward trip because of the snacks (first allergic reaction on a plane). She spent the night before last in hospital on a drip after accidently ingesting nuts. The passenger: can’t have peanuts for a short (even a long) trip. Is this really such a deprivation? Which rights count more? The right to health and life .. or the right to peanuts? Opponents just don’t have an argument. Plus, if someone like my daughter has severe anaphylactic shock on a plane, yes, she’s got her epipen but would then need hospital treatment. Do you want your plane diverted and delayed just so you can eat a nut?
I was really apprhensive about going solo, but I found a really great cheap crusie deal on http://www.Cruise.co.uk for single passenegers on Cunard, so I decided not to miss the opportunity. And having recently returned from my holiday I am glad that i did because i had a great time, I could do what i wanted when i wanted without compromising anything also during dinner Cunard had seated me with other singles so you had the chance to make freinds onboard as well. I would highly recommend a cruise to anyone thinking of travelling solo.
Another REALTOR, that’s a great point you raise about non-SICO realtors being able to access the island. I tried to push that issue and was told that “your buyer will not be able to join the Sea Island Club if you sell your house any other way than through our agency”, and that included FSBO. That’s criminal. The thing that gets me is the Brunswick area MLS would not push the issue because local politico’s were afraid of the big bad SICO. That’s criminal.
I think it’s a great idea. I am lucky that my birthday is close to Memorial Day so for the past couple years we have spent a week at the beach for my birthday and it coincides with the holiday for an extra day off work. We try to visit a different place every year.
When me and my girls hit one of the big birthdays, we take destination trips: Sanibel Island, Las Vegas, The Outer Banks, New York City, Tybee Island. We usually let the birthday girl select the destination.
I was lucky enough to spend my birthday this summer at Montaluce in Dahlonega ( http://www.montaluce.com)…couldn’t afford Italy this year but this was the next best thing.
My birthday was August 8 and it was not one of those milestones. I just felt I had to get away from the day to day hustle and bustle, so a girlfriend and I went to Miami (South Beach) for 4 WONDERFUL days!! We had a BLAST! It’s been the BEST birthday since I was 30. When I was 30, me and another girlfriend went to San Juan for 4 days and then embarked on a 7 day Carribean cruise that actually departed on my actual birthday!
I turned 30 two weeks ago, and to celebrate my 30th birthday, I planned a birthday trip to Miami with 2 of my friends. We had an awesome time celebrating my birthday in Miami last week. It was a memorable and fun-filled birthday vacation that I will never forget.
every year, I take a birthday vacation. I get a condo by the beach, a stack of books and magazines I haven’t had a chance to read all year and I do nothing but sun, walk on the beach, take long bike rides and relax. No phone, no email, no one. Other than checking in the condo, and pleasantries with passerbys, I speak to no one. It’s bliss. I leave in 9 days.
BirthdayGirl – I am turning 40 this year and that is what I am going to do. My Hubby booked me a trip to Cancun. I want to spend the time alone so I am taking my books, magazines and I am going to relax. I am going to celebrate being 40 all year long doing a lot of things that I want to do.
I turned 49 a few weeks ago. In anticipation of the big 5-0, I am designating one weekend a month to do something special as a way of counting down to my birthday next July. Last weekend was the Georgia coast with a friend, next month, hopefully, NYC! All of my friends are clamoring to be chosen for one of these weekend outings.
We’ve been to the Swamp a few times…stayed at Folkston and Foster. Love the cabins at Foster. Can make the drive from east to west easily. The evening/night boat ride into the swamp on the east side is a can’t miss. Head out near sunset…see/hear the sunset in the chesser prairie, then, in the dark, flash flashlights out into the swamp to see the vibrant red of alligators’ eyes reflect back. Absolutely stunning trip. One time, when it was just my son and me at Foster…we went out for a walk at night under the stars. Could see/hear the alligators along the canal leading out to the river. There was a group of deer in a clearing. Stars were incredible and it was SOO quiet. As we stood there and took it all in, started to hear what sounded like a strong wind starting up. Turns out, it was a flock of sandhill cranes heading into the swamp. Can’t beat it.
Another time there, after a night boat ride into the swamp, we were able to very clearly see Halley’s comet. The boardwalk on the east side is great. We’ve also stayed in St. Mary’s state park and made the drive. This place is one of my most favorite on earth…don’t miss it.
I frequently travel alone – most of my friends are married and no longer want to take vacations without their husbands (even though they do not have children…). I’ve been to Scotland, Mexico, and various places throughout the states (mostly hiking), and I’ve done it all alone. There are many benefits, and if you are outgoing enough you can meet many people – or not if you’re not up to it. For me the best way to do it is to stay at Bed & Breakfasts….making friends with the owners is key, but usually pretty easy. I still keep in touch with several of the B&B owners I have stayed with, both in Scotland and in Montana. I know many who are apprehensive about traveling alone, and it really is something that you have to be ready for….if you are comfortable with being by yourself it can be really fantastic. My next big trip is Spain next year …as long as I can get at least somewhat fluent between now and then.
I have had peanut induced anaphalatic shock on an airplane while pregnant. I have also had other emergency room visits due to peanuts. Masks don’t work, airline procedures for submitting allergy info are not very effective, it is difficult and embarrassing to have to ask other passengers not to eat peanuts (they are often starving) an epipen isn’t 100 % effective. Are incremental profits from in flight peanut sales more important than lives? I empathize with people with other allergies. I’m not sure why a personal air purifier would not be allowed. I remember when planes were toxic buckets of tobacco smoke, airlines reduced expenses by banning smoke while improving passenger health even though this reduced tobacco profits. Many airlines have banned peanuts, perhaps due to liability and expense. Delta seems to be allied with the georgia peanut industry and continues to insist on providing this life-threatening snack. Unfortunately, I live in a Detla hub and there aren’t many alternatives. It is kind of interesting that increasingly you have to pay for everything onboard, yet the airlines want to right to provide free snacks that are poison to a significant number of travelors.
There are so many beautiful places in north GA – Anna Ruby falls, Unicoi state park, Vogel state park, etc. with great hiking, canoeing, swimming, or just simply relaxing in nature. Check out these and more gorgeous places right here in GA! The commute is short & easy!
Absolutely. Especially if you have an interest your family doesn’t really share. I love skiing, and sometimes it’s nice to be able to hit the advanced slopes, so it doesn’t make much sense to travel with people who can’t.
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Cavers are very secretive about cave locations and for good reason. Caves are fragile environments, and are vulnerable to vandalism. Many of Georgia’s fine caves have been literally destroyed by vandals over the years. Spray painting, bat killing people partying in caves have made the caving community very tight-lipped about even discussing where caves are located. The White River Cave in west Georgia is a good example of a cave being trashed. The good thing is that it is now gated and owned by a responsible owner who is restoring this natural wonder.
The air of secrecy that cavers have makes it difficult to even enter the sport. Unless you are born to caving parents, you don’t typically just become a caver. You have to WANT to be a caver. Caving takes effort, and even joining the caving community takes an effort. If anyone is interested in caving, the best place to start is the website of the National Speleological Society at http://www.caves.org/
The NSS is broken down into regional chapters called “grottos”. From the NSS webpage, you can find a grotto near you. Despite our secretive nature, we are a very welcoming group of people, particularly to those who are genuinely interested in caves and caving.
Remember, Cave softly. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, and kill nothing but time.
Ive had taken several of my previous wives on weekend visits to the Swamp for overnight camping trips but the funniest thing keeps happening. When I awake in the morning they have disappeared.
Now being Im a business man I must return to work Monday only to receive a call later in the week that my wife was found stabbed or eaten by alligators or died from a snake bite or drowned etc.
Ive lost several wives in this manner and cant quite understand what keeps happening. They just keep up and dying on me.
I love late night early morning vacations around the dumpsters at “back street” and/or the “eagle”. I can be found there, alone and waiting for you, most anytime after midnight.
Give me a break. Just stay in a motel if you can’t hang! Then come back to the city and brag/lie to your friends about how you roughed it over the weekend. Sheesh…..
I’ll bet with ‘glamping’ there wouldn’t be all thoes annoying, loud, beer drinking RV owners keeping me up all night arguing at the top of their drunk voices about which NASCAR driver is best.
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Walking to school in the Bronx during the 70s is number 1. Driving down some of these streets in Metro Atlanta (the ones with no lights whatsoever) might be number 2.
Scariest place I’ve ever been? Hum, without a doubt it would have to be South Atlanta. My car ran out of gas and I had to walk to a convenience store. I really feared for my life.
you people haven’t been anywhere obviously – i had a gun pulled on me at 2am in St petersburg russia, a knife pulled on me in south side chicago, and got whacked in the head in rio during an attempted mugging. atlanta is a cakewalk compared to these three
and mike, please drop the political drivel. it’s so boring.
@please St. Petersburg is on the top of my list. No weapons actually pulled, but I felt as though I was being sized up for a mugging whenever I was on the street or in the tube. Had a scary run-in with skinheads in Zurich.
Phnomn Penh. Paris at night after the Metro shuts down. We were heading to Charles De Gaulle and got let out in an Algerian slum. Didn’t think I’d get out of that one alive. And not to pick fights, but west of vine city at night is pretty freaking sketchy, even by global standards.
My ex wifes family’s house at Thanksgiving. Her brother kept coming on to me, the turkey was undercooked and we all got sick, my ex father in law hates football and the place smelled of cat urine.
Hmmm…When q100 was paying for everybody to go to six flags a couple of years back that was pretty scary.
Being in Belfast during one of thier riots was pretty cool.
But the coolest place was Leslie Castle in the county of Monaghan, Ireland on Halloween Night. One of Irelands most haunted castles. Will never forget that night
East St. Louis, with an overheating engine, middle of one hot summer day in 1982 – I was terrified. Deserted streets, bridge to St Louis that I had planned to take was blocked off and my map-reading Canadian husband said “here – you figure out how to get us out of here – it’s YOUR country”. This was one of the places featured in the National Lampoon Vacation movie where, in the movie, the station wagon was ’stripped’ and spray painted while the family was sitting in it…
Taking a quick look at my Dad’s childhood neighborhood in South Philly. It was probably an ok Irish neighborhood in the 1940s, but now it is scary with bombed out looking bldgs and thugs everywhere. Thank god it was a ride thru with our windows rolled up.
New Orleans in May 2004—I didn’t feel safe anywhere.
Atlanta (circa 1988): when I was a kid my dad took my brother and I down Peachtree Street to show us the tall buildings. It was about 9:30 on a Saturday night and we’d just left a Braves game. There were prostitutes everywhere–I mean everywhere. And there were people who kept approaching the cars from the sidewalks (it was standstill traffic). And then we went to a BP station, where all these men got out of this tiny car. They were all wearing black leather and makeup and smiled at us they walked into the store. As a 10 year old kid, it was scary and exciting at the same time.
Grant Park along Boulevard after 2 a.m. is pretty scary. I also once went to a ghetto Stone Mountain neighborhood to look at a car for sale (didn’t know it was a ghetto). The minute we pulled into that neighborhood, every single gangsta’s eyes followed us until we rounded the bend. Their faces clearly said that they don’t like white people in their ‘hood. When we were exiting the neighborhood a few minutes later (the car had had it’s steering column and radio ripped out by a thief, big surprise), the same thing happened. They all stared us down until we were out of their ‘hood. I’ll never set foot in a ghetto again.
Cancun resort two years ago. Got there, was told the elevators were out. Trudged up six flights of narrow condensation slicked steps, dragging our stuff, with the only light provided by an employee on every landing with a little flashlight.
Started looking, noticed no emergency lighting in the hallway, no smoke detectors anywhere, thought to myself, “hope this place doesn’t catch fire.”
3 a.m. we’re awakened by a siren, which stops right out front, then another. By the third siren, I’m up looking out, seeing what passes for fire brigade in Mexico roll up. It was one old green tanker, one old pumper (60’s vintage, and a half dozen guys riding in the back of a police pickup truck. Scared the heck out of us, for sure.
The laundry room was on fire. I was never more glad that I always bring my own flashlight on trips than I was getting down those stairs that night.
I was 15 in 1971 and travelled with my parents to the Grand Canyon. We arrived in Albuquerque just before dark and checked into hotel. As it got dark, there were fires everywhere and we learned there was rioting going on and we were in the middle of it. The police would not let us leave until daylight. Fires and rioting all night. I still don’t know what it was about, but it was a scary thing to a 15 year old living a sheltered life.
You guys that say Atlanta is a cake walk, grab a cake and start walking. Walk around the Dome at 2 in the morning. Walk around Turner Field at 2 in the morning. BUT! You could walk around any major city at 2 in the morning and lose your cake. I am 5th generation Atlantan and proud of it. Not unlike any city, we do have our ugly areas. My advise? Don’t go there and you will be fine.
Driving through Cairo, Egypt at night, when many of the Egyptians drive without headlights. They think it runs down the battery in the car. Go figure…..
Has to be in a subway station in Budapest, Hungary in 2008/Police Officer told me that I had violated a subway “law” and threatened me and my teenage daughters/told me he put would put us in jail unless we paid him $500 which I didn’t have/Hungarian locals tried to help us by telling the officer to leave us alone/the officer yelled for them to mind their own business/I kept standing my ground, started yelling for help,and told him I would report him/he finally let us go/was later told that this happens a lot in Budapest and sometimes it doesn’t end this well.
Maybe not the scariest but a sobering reminder of the past.
1) Walking through the Nazi death camps, gas chambers and prison “hospitals”
2) As a kid we visited the abandoned Waverly Sanitarium in Louisville, KY. There was a “death tunnel” where they transported the dead (daily) via rail to the trains.
3) Riding a motorcycle cross country through the primitive areas of Mexico.
4) Visiting the top of the Mayan pyramids where they executed innocents by ripping their hearts out while alive and offering it to their gods. You can see buildings built out of human remains.
5) Atlanta projects after hours – its like the night of the living dead.
Arrived there late at night on the way to spring break at Panama City in the late 80s, looking for somewhere to park and catch a few zzzz’s. Everywhere we went seemed haunted and creepy…lights flickering in previously dark windows, curtains moving without anybody there, ghostly apparitions in the park. Strange juju going on in that place.
Second scariest place is Alpharetta. Modern-day Stepford.
1. My father in law who lives in New Orleans took us on a short cut (pre-katrina) through a project to get to a bar faster, people started screaming followed by throwing bottles, bricks , rocks at our car, thought we were dead thank god he hit the gas and could drive with broken windshield
2. back in 89 me and three idiots friends , all seniors in highschool at Dunwoody decided after watching a Ga Tech BB game to see if we were brave enough to drive into Techwood homes and park and get out. Long story short we did and to my suprise to this day we ended up staying for a couple of hours talking to residents ,and gang bangers , they were amazed by our bravery so everyone was cool(even gave us some beers)
Porterdale pool in 1975. I went in the bathroom and there were 3 older upper teen boys that looked at me and said, “you shore do have a purdy mouth”. Needless to say, I ran out and pee’d in the pool
It is sooooo funny hearing how people are scared of South Atlanta. Being from South Atlanta and now having the opportunity to leave the area due to education, I love to see people judge areas with people whom they don’t understand nor have the intention. Of course, I can understand to the anxiety the people feel as most people in these areas feel the same way you do. The difference is that they cannot afford to leave. To me, it also speaks to the will to survive and mental toughness you must have in order to LIVE in these areas, not just ride through, get lost, or visit. Of course from my message, there are are strong assumptions that can be made about my background (demographic) as I have strong assumptions about these posters with comments about South Atlanta. Maybe the fear factor is why these scary people break down under extreme stress (especially financial) . What all of you must understand is that extreme stress is a way of life from money, food, gunshots, robberies, rape, and other ever-present dangers. I love my people of South Atlanta and I wish you the best. The scariest place(s) I’ve visited are the corporate offices and places other than South Atlanta where those in these areas stab you in the back without a clue of there intentions, or the lies they tell you for their benefit to benefit for themselves. At least the fear of south Atlanta let’s itself be known instead of surprise attacks. Be well my people (South Atlantan’s). It takes time, but we will CONTINUE to rise.
Driving to the in-laws in the burbs. The beautiful vista of strip-malls, identical houses and white picked fences is invariably terrifying. Makes me wish I was back in Rio, walking drunk through the streets at 4 am trying to find my apartment, or for that matter in East Point, where I lived for a bit.
Why are people of other races afraid to just say what’s on their minds instead of referring to blacks as thugs or people in the hip-hop culture like we don’t know who you are talking about? You are the people I’m scared if bc you hide who you really are but smile in the faces of people you hate and cry foul when we call you on what’s obvious in society. You’re in a safe place at your computer. No angry black man’s going to hurt you. Hypocrites…
Judgment Journey in LaGrange was very frightening and had realistic scenes. That said, the scariest part of all is reserved for those who are not believers. We will all be judged, death is not the end of our road, there’s lots more beyond this world. I would be scared to be on the wrong side of that equation.
I haven’t been but heard Tribulation Trail is even more graphic. Paying to be scared just isn’t my thing, life in 2010 is scary enough. I have walked the streets of do-or-die Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn and lived in Bushwick, Brooklyn in the 80’s. The movie Fort Apache, the Bronx showed what my ‘hood was like in real life so I’ve had all the thrills to last me a lifetime.
To those who bring up the race card, a black person walking in a well-to-do neighborhood is far safer than a white person walking in the ghetto. Statistics don’t lie. Yes, education is the key and to the S. Atlantan who escaped via education, maybe you can share with people how saying how they are fittin’ to do something or talking about the gummint won’t get them the type of corporate job that is going to enable them to escape their daily condition. Talking like a bonehead and dressing like one are the oppressors, not corporate America nor the White Man. Just saying…
south atlantan, how often do you hear about a white guy shooting someone for no reason? I ll never forget about the story of the football player walking home after practice who died for no reason. Not only was the kid good at football but was smart and had offers to go to Harvard and other good schools. So he’s waiting and another kid walks up to him, who happens to be black, puts a gun in the football players face and demands money. football player says he doesn’t have any money. Other kid shoots and kills him. the shooter is then arrested later after people heard him talking about killing the football player. the reason why he shot him, and i quote “I shot him because he didn’t have any money” what psycho does that. thats why people are afraid of south atlanta. not racist just saying. here’s the story.
I’m with Devil Dog. Yea though I walk through the valley of death—I marched across the parade deck at Parris Island, so the only fear I have now is layoffs.
Actually Jay, I know exactly which story you are referring to because the young man from Washington High School died in my sister’s arms. He was shot after she saw them having a conversation directly outside of her home. She closed the door an minutes later, the young man had been shot. I know this may sound coincidental but I promise it’s the truth. Now, as I said in earlier posts, I completely understand the fear factor in South Atlanta. The issue I have is the references made in posts to people who live in South Atlanta as a whole. Jay, my point goes back to exactly to the first sentence you began with “a white guy shooting someone for no reason”. Maybe you see it as no reason, but many of the young men have records at a young age. There are very limited or no positive role models and fathers in these areas. Much of the trouble these young men get into seriously limit the opportunities they have in the future. Chances for job opportunities are limited to none so cyclical crime is a way of life. Many times, people become immune to what they do to others (in all regions and socioeconomic classes). I’m not making excuses for the crime and the reason to shoot someone after you’ve robbed them is always puzzling but you don’t know if the state of mind. These are factors that must be taken into consideration. Maybe some of the people are just bad but it’s not accurate to assume people do things for no reason. I also said that people should be upfront with the words being used to reference blacks instead of saying thugs, hip-hop, and the like because they’re attempting to hide what’s obvious. And I’m speaking from experience not a visit. I’ve lived in the projects and been a troubled teen in and out of the justice system but was fortunate enough to have sports talent that took me away from that environment and I began to think and do differently.
And to JesusFreak, please read the post I wrote as I was clear in what I said. Just say who you are referring to and don’t call blacks names trying to use suggestive words. To your point, I do educate those in South Atlanta who are willing to listen to what I have to say. The tough part is that so many generations are so use to what they see in their surroundings that they thinks it’s normal. That’s why I said exposure is important. Many times, people only see what their eyes tell them. The parents don’t understand corporate or luxuries or the proper ways to conduct themselves so how are they going to teach their children this? I know it may sound like excuses but you would be surprised about the lessons earlier generations failed to teach and it’s passed on. Honestly, I feel the exact same way you do and I do understand and agree with the statistical references made. The difference is I don’t just see thing for what or how they are. The difference is that I understand and can recognize why.
But only after age 30. Mostly because I was too poor before. And while poor 20-somethings often manage to travel, I was already married and had a kid by age 26. So, I didn’t fall in that group.
But, I travel a lot now for work. These are trips that are always international and commonly more than a week. So while during the week I am stuck in an office, I have that weekend to explore and explore I do…by myself or with someone from the local office, doesn’t matter.
And it’s translated home. Because now I earn nasty skymiles (I am DIAMOND status!) so whenever I have enough miles banked, my hubby and son and I book a flight to somewhere new.
Fees are the last thing I worry about. Thanks to the political gamesmanship of Michael Chertoff, former DHS secretary, his company is now making billions off the sale of virtual strip search machines that basically render you, your wife, your children, and your grandma naked for the perverts to see as you go through security. No clinical studies have been done on the radiation you are being exposed to so the potential for future cancer is always there too. If you “opt out”, be prepared for the gestapo to make a big deal and announce it very loudly so everyone can hear. Then be prepared to be sexually molested, not with the back of the hands anymore, but with the front of the hands feeling all over your breasts, testicles, butt crack, genital region, and that of your wife, grandma, young children, etc. If you refuse, expect to be interrogated for plenty of time and still not allowed to fly. If anyone else did such things they would be charged with child pornography, child molestation, or sexual battery and assault.
Thank goodness for the TSA. They have made flying miserable, hazardous to your health, and now obscene and demoralizing. For me, flying is over with until this TSA is shut down and american’s liberties and freedoms are restored. This is not about safety, it is about totalitarian control and the sheep are fed up – finally.
I agree with TSA sucks. The gestapo like tactics of the TSA has made travel from a US airport not likely for me in the near future. I have heard that some pilots organizations have filed suit over the new search requirements that have been put in place. Too bad the US doesn’t have a high speed rail system as an alternative to flying. Road trips within a reasonalbe distance from home will be the focus of my vacation plans.
I won’t be flying until the body scanners are removed from the airports. If the body scanners persist, we (people who still believe in the right to be secure from warrantless searches) may just organize a boycott of a particular airline. I estimate that a 20% drop in passengers would be enough to drive any airline into bankruptcy.
I won’t be flying , or doing much of anything else that might require this type of intrusive screening. The scanners are reported to give excessive amounts of radiation which I believe may well prove to be harmful in the long term. If anyone wants to “touch my junk” they had better have a good medical or love interest reason to do so.
It is my belief that this enhanced screening is not so much about safety as it is about causing the airlines to “fail” so that the government can take them over much as they did GM.
I do not know how it will be possible to avoid one or the other security measures, I have to fly.
Virtual or not they both pose some risks, the pat down is nothing else than a physical violation with no excuse of pre-existing reasons to be searched in such a way, usually reserved for suspected criminals. I cannot predict how I would take a pat down, with ptsd for sexual abuse, this could feel rather traumatic.
I often wondered if all these security measures are misdirected or focused only at Airports diverting attention to other possible terrorist targets.
Last time I flew was this past January. I’m somewhat handicapped and have difficulty removing my shoes. TSA folks were courteous, but I was diverted to separate lines and was swabbed down (shoes and hands) to check for explosives. It took a lot of time to go through security. I flew out of Tel Aviv Lod airport in the early 1970s – a year after terrorists shot up the airport and hijacked a plane. Security was extremely tight then, but not near as tight as security in US airports now.
These days, I avoid flying as much as possible, preferring to drive. Between the junk fees the airlines are charging, the shrinking amount of leg room on the planes, and the security hassles, I prefer to drive. The only reasons I’ll fly now are if I have to get there quicker than I can drive, or if it is impossible to drive there – like to Europe or Asia.
Don’t you think profiling makes a lot more sense? Is it really necessary to go to these extremes so that we do not “offend” those with known terroristic tendencies?
I can’t understand what’s the big deal with a full body scanner for security purposes. Does it make you sick? Does it through off radioactive rays? Does it show the flowers on my panties? Ohhhh, I don’t wear underwear so does it reveal that I don’t have any on? LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! At this age I don’t give a poop if it’s not detrimental to my health, tell me where do I stand!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
Ohhhhhh and by the way if there are people refusing to fly because they don’t want to be subjected to the scanner GOOD!!!! Now maybe I can get on fligts that are always booked at times I want to travel!!!!!
There is No law that says you have to fly. If your so worried about your lil privacy as if some one wants to see it( eyes rolling) you have a choice. DONT FLY. Hopefully by you and others opting out it will make the lines smaller. If its that much of a big deal. Take your car, bus, train, boat. But dont FLY. because the first time theres a security breach. the same folks complaining will be screaming they didnt properly search everyone. Americans cry and whine like babies constantly. If you have a problem with being searched..Keep your azz out the airlines. Drive, Walk, take a train, rent a boat. But stay out the airlines because they are NOT going to risk low security so you can feel like your privacy hasent been violated.
Neither myself, nor any of my family will fly until this foolishness is stopped. Profile those likely to be terrorists, search and x-ray them. Why should everyone be inconvenienced for the potential actions of a very few?
Sure, then don’t fly.
It is not your right to fly.
If this stops a wretched terrorist from getting their virgins, by blowing up a plane with some “junk” in their “junk”, I say it’s worth it.
Just how would you feel if, some nutcase fanatic took down an airliner, with some C4 stashed with their “junk”?
Count me in the non-flying group. If enough of us object, maybe the airlines will feel the pinch in their pocketbook and put some pressure on their bought-and-paid-for legislators and bureaucrats to get things changed.
I just put up with it because I have to fly. I would rather be scanned than have someone putting their hands on me. I am a bit concerned about the radiation though. They need to let people know what the risk is.
Unfortunately, this is the price we have to pay to attempt to stop the wrong people from getting on a plane
If this extra layer of security is removed, and a plane goes down, you non-flying whiners, would be the first, and loudest, to screech “they should have done more, they should have done more”
EL Al also have guards with machine guns openly displayed at every turn. We depend on the jobs program called the TSA. I think there is more oversight in the security dept at Macy’s. Do what casinos do…..have competent people watching cameras monitors and knowing who people are so they can diffuse a situation or grab someone if need be. Until this country gets the stomach to speak openly about what and who the threat is we are no better off. The clueless person at the top of the escalator at the airport doesn’t make me feel any better.
I was subjected to the new pat down about a week ago. I can tell you that it felt invasive and uncomfortable. I am not a prude and I’m pretty ok with security measures to help ensure safety. The TSA person was rude and did not tell me what she was doing or that this was the new pat down procedure. when I realized that she was doing things that others had never done, I realized what was going on. I would have much preferred that she had told me ahead of time that this was the new pat down and had explained where she was going to pat and why as others TSAs have done, especially since this pat down involved other semiprivate areas. Honestly, I really did feel violated. And again I’m as about un-squeamish as it gets….
It’s a two-sided situation. I hate the hassel w/ security whenever I fly w/ my dughters(4yr old/9yr old) because of the timimg going through the security check point. When I fly alone I’m ok because it’s just me. On the other hand, you want to feel protected and safe when flying. The full body scanners and the pat-downs, I feel that’s a little too much.
We should do as EL AL does. Profile. Get rid of this idea of polictical correctness. If you are looking for people from the Middle East … your are not going to check a grandmother by the name of O’Shea who doesn’t even have a passport. Profiling has always worked in criminal investigations. The FBI does an expert job at it in its behavioral science unit. This is not rocket science…it only becomes complicated when the decision is made, typically by the govt, that one shoe fits all.
All this hoopla and tremendous expense could be avoided if America would simply ditch political correctness, profile, and make airlines responsible for their own security. The TSA (thousands standing around) is another shinning example of big government failure.
I am stripping down to my boxers and ” T ” shirt…name one time TSA ( thousands standing around ) has stopped any thing in the US that was related to an attempt. Oh..some guy named Faruk from Somalia…let him through he’s OK. The only thing more stupid than this is our leader on home land security Ms. Janet…she doesn’t even fly commercial aircraft. Oh be patient..let them run their hand down your pants bitch.
I have no problem with a full body scanner. It’s a lot less exposure than in the junior high PE locker room when I actually was sensitive enough to give a rip. We all have basically the same equipment, version M or version F. Get over it.
I also have absolutely no problem with profiling, though we should not be so complacent as to rely on that. The terrorists can recruit people who grew up in the US and can easily “pass.” Thus, though parts of my family have been here since the Mayflower, I grudgingly go along with the security routine without complaint.
Very interesting article and even more interesting responses. My family is Egyptian (I’m 1st generation American). I’ve been involved in designing and implementing a mulititude of security systems (including the “backscatter” technology) and DoD initiatives across the US, Europe, and the Middle East. I can safely say that these technologies we’re implementing are ineffective (and especially if not installed at every airport). The only useful and effective mechanism is profiling and having background information on passengers before they step into that security line. Being groped for an explosive device is a bit late when standing in the vicinity of several hundred other passengers. Having non-qualified personnel grope for explosives in a public location is indicative of a policy developed by those who either have no idea what they are doing or do not expect to find anything; because, seriously, God help the others in the vicinity if they did. The only way to do this is to profile (Israel has got it right) and allow travellers to opt in to having background checks prior to airport arrival.
The FlyClear initiative was excellent and I was a member (as many clearances as I have had, I figured the govt knows everything about me, anyway). I was sad to see FlyClear go bankrupt and would join another similar initiative in a heartbeat.
These machines are mostly safe… but they are not always. Just like every other type of radiation generator, there are several levels of intensity that are controlled automatically based on how well the current analysis is progressing. I can tell you without doubt that the design cranks the output levels up very high in the case that a good scatter return is not received. This can be for a variety of reasons including humidty, temperature, and clothing material. These levels are absolutely unsafe for anyone of any health (but deemed an acceptable design compromise for the sake of making the delivery schedule).
I must say that there is nothing more frustrating to me than watching an 80 yr old woman selected for a random patdown/search instead of me. Almost as frustrating is me being selected for a random/search when I know that much of the technology I’m staring at is based on designs/implementations that I worked on. If the TSA saw my background file, they would not waste their time… so why can’t they? Privacy? Laughable based on the lack of concern for current privacy…
Bottom-line – this is a misplaced policy promoting fear and speculation. The truth of the matter is that our net is only stopping good people of all nationalities and religions. There are not that many bad people and it takes intelligence to find them – not groping or scanning with useless technologies that are not installed at every airport. The reason for our government’s current policies is a combination of ignorance, arrogance, and putting contract dollars in the hands of corporations with the best lobbyists.
It is easy to spot the people who never fly,,they all for giving up their rights. I flew over 9000 miles and drove over 1200 miles and it was a light year. How many times do I have to endure this BS. My wife has a secret clearance from the same government that for some reason doesn’t trust her now. Why don’t they frisk,scan, grope her every time she enters a federal building to go to work..Oh that’s right!! there is no large federal contract involved..BTW when the camera is rolling and the news media is there, they only barely brush your body, when they aren’t around I would of been slapped in high school for those liberties to a girls body…but it’s same sex !! can you say Gay…these people( TSA ) are perverts even wanting the job. They touch my grand daughters I’ll break your face.
I opt out of flying right now. Except for emergencies, this is how I’m traveling from now on:
- I’ll drive trips of 8 hours or less
- If I’m going to Orlando, Tampa or South Florida, I’m taking Red Coach USA luxury bus. Only 27 seats on the coach. Nice wide reserved seats that recline to 150 degrees. Leg and foot rests, tray tables, free wi-fi, onboard movies, and AC outlets at every seat. You do not board at the Greyhound station ’cause this ain’t Greyhound. For more info, visit redcoachusa.com
- If I’m going to the Northeast, It’s Amtrak. Me and Winkasmom will get a sleeper and make a romantic night out of it. Leave Atlanta around 8:30 PM, arrive in Washington around 9:30 AM, New York around 2:00 PM. If I need to be in NY faster, we’ll transfer to Acela Express which will get us into NY around 12:30 PM.
Yeah, it takes longer – so what. I beleive that your vacation begins once you quit work. It should not be work to fly – but it is. Traveling should be an enjoyable part of your vacation experience. Flying is no longer enjoyable.
Terroist have gotten exactly what they want or should I say the government, make the Americans live in fear so we can strip them of their rights. Scanners are not fool proof they are just the opposite give them enough comfort to become sloppy!!!!!! If they worked Israel would use them. This is a sad new century — wake up people you are being strip searched and if you do not go for the strip search your privates are going to be felt up to humiliate you and basically force you into the strip search- not to mention the adverse health effects these scanners have on your body. The patriot act simply was used to take away your rights. All at the price of 50% taxation WOW here we all just sit by and let it happen, I am ashamed. There is nothing about terroists that threaten us more then our own government feeding us these fears to put us in a cattle chute. Shame on you Shame on me and Shame on us.
We all have such different values and even our reactions to the scanners and pat downs are so varied like people are in effect. We all have our points of view, but one thing stands for a fact: we are now stripped of our liberty, perhaps even lied to, distracted by this massive effort with airline security like it was the only or most probable way for the terrorists to commit some very awful acts ending in tragedies.
Here is where I do not see much “intelligence” from the higher ups, as they seem to lack complete respect for us individuals.
We are so infinitely different and yet we all are supposed to go through the same and only security check like there was not even the slightest concern for our individuality, our rights, not to mention that we are also innocent.
This method can become a precedent for a more widespread abuse. It’s truly sad, like the day George W. Bush became president for the first time, my heart sank in my stomach realizing we were starting to go back to a time of repression.
On behalf of the majority of the TSA people who are working also to make a living, I do not think they have a choice to act differently, it must be very hard for many of them to pat, touch, feel people, who are complete strangers to them. Probably in their minds they never imagined they would have to do something of this nature. For many of them the new method could be felt as an imposition, or abuse over their initial contract agreements. I wonder too what kind of job description they have at this point, and the weight of a huge institution upon their heads who is requiring they fullfill their duties…wow…we are pretty much all f….d up!
I won’t fly again. The body scan probably wouldn’t work for me as I have several joint replacements in my body – both metal and plastic. I also walk with the aid of metal crutches. I’d set off all the bells and whistles so they’d make me do the pat-down. As a rape victim there’s no way I could do that intense pat-down (assault) without getting hysterical. So no, I’ll not fly again. Fortunately for me there’s little need to ever fly so no one is really losing money from my decision.
I’ve been seeing mention of Muslim women being exempt from all this. I wish there was factual information being reported so we know what’s going on. If they are exempt will nuns also be?
I was a government employee many many years. I don’t believe the claim that the machines cannot store pictures/images. I also don’t believe there won’t be TSA employees copying images with their cell phones or other equipment. It’s only a matter of time before images will be posted online. I feel especially bad for famous people – what pervert wouldn’t want a naked image of the current famous celebrity. I wonder if the magazine rags are approaching TSA employees with money offers yet.
Why are members of congress exempt? Are their families exempt? If so, there’s no way on earth they should be exempt. I want to see the faces of our congress as their wives and children and mothers are groped/assaulted by TSA.
I have been done for a while. We drive nearly 3,000 miles round trip every year to avoid flying. It used to be rude airlines, crappy service, baggage fees. Add these new naked body scanners and legalized sexual assault, it is a no brainier.
I fly for business, but I don’t have as much say in that.
B-shep…sorry sweetie, you know how much I love you but I completely disagree. The phrase “if you don’t like it don’t fly” is crap. This is the USA. We have laws against illegal searches. The ONLY reason we are going through this is because we refuse to profile! Americans who fly are being treated like common criminals because we refuse to profile. Children are being searched. BUT, are Muslim women in full Muslim garb being searched? Can you imagine the outrage if a TSA agent put his/her hands into the underwear of a Muslim woman???????
Many people HAVE to fly as part of their jobs. Should they be searched or x-rayed every frickin time they get on a plane? EVERY week???? And what about people who work on planes? The pilots have recently been given a pass but have the flight attendants? Should they be scanned as much as 5 times a week?
The claims that the body scans are safe have not been proven or verified other than “the gov’t says so”.
And that comment from the gov’t…”if you don’t like it don’t fly”…….doesn’t that sound just a teensy bit like the neighborhood bully declaring….if you don’t like it don’t walk on this side of the street????
I’ve been a frequent flier, but not in the last 5 years as my job schedule has changed. Thank goodness. Flying is now my last resort. I’ll drive, take the train or even use the bud to avoid flying. I’m not scared — I’m just frustrated with the hassles and the long additional hours it takes to get to the airport, fly and get back. Until there are big changes in aviation — and I don’t see that coming — I will be flying only if I absolutely have no choice.
I have two artificial knees, which set off the alarms every time. I am also a senior citizen who occasionally has taken my VERY elderly, wheelchair bound, mother traveling with me. There is no way I could opt for scanner-only, and no way she could stand with her arms outstretched. I will not subject a 95 year old to groping, and will not visit my distant children and grandchildren myself until some sanity returns.
The gay and lesbian TSA screeners must be in hog heaven right about now. Paid to feel up same sex travelers. And nothing anyone can do about it since complaining would be considered discrimination.
Those of you who are willing to allow the government to do anything with/to you in the name of “security”: enjoy it next time your screener looks up at you and smiles with a little gleam in his eye while he has a firm grasp on your crotch.
I last flew a little over a month ago when I saw airports in cities such as Atlanta and Miami were quietly installing those “naked body scanners.” Having read about them months before through The Drudge Report site, I recognized them instantly.
I am 125% Conservative Republican, but George W. Bush should burn in Eternal Flame for creating this abomination known as the Department of Homeland STUPIDITY and empowering these TSA morons to rob us of our freedoms. Ronald Reagan would never had allowed this nonsense to happen.
Burn in Hell, TSA!
I will NOT be flying again until the TSA and abolished and the goons working for it are restored to their rightful place behind the airport Burger King counter.
If that means I never pay another dime for a commercial airline ticket for the rest of my life, then so be it. I’ll see Delta go the way of Eastern Airlines before I get will allow myself to get bossed around like a prison inmate by another TSA simpleton with a 3rd-grade readlng level.
“Big Sis” in Washington can kiss my Big @$$. Frankly, so can every empowered politician currently in DC with a vested financial interest in the company making those full-body scanners.
The 2012 Presidential Candidate who makes ending this nonsense a cornerstone of their platform is the one who will get my vote.
I’ve taken Amtrak twice – once to Alabama, once to California. Limited schedules aside, it’s been well worth the extra travel time. I avoid flying whenever I can if I’m going somewhere on the Crescent – serving points between New Orleans and New York City.
The question to ask is, after years of groping, probing, searching, digging, shoe removal, and all the shampoo and nail clipper confiscations, has the TSA ever actually CAUGHT a terrorist at the gate? If they have, it’s a pretty well-kept secret.
I have decided (after thoroughly researching) that I prefer prior background checks and profiling over unreliable body scanners, pervs, and pat downs. I say we keep the bombers out of the airport all together, not wait until they are amongst thousands of people in the security area.
I realize people have to fly for jobs and such; people have a right to complain. BUT, the airs have to be safe, so you have to decide: Unreliable scanners, pat downs by pervs, quarterly background checks by your government, or discriminating profiling. So those who complain about invasions of privacy, what do you propose? For those of you who prefer to wait for the terrorist to get to the airport, and be caught by our hero $9/hr TSA agents, what do you propose? Contrary to popular belief, Americans CANNOT have their cake and eat it too.
So all you have to do is board a plane from an airport that does not have these scanners, and connect through Atlanta, and voila, you can avoid these “precautions” and “security” measures. You can still blow up anything you please. Nice. And since everyone is not scanned with these, or the pat downs, you are not ensuring security at all….sooooo, umm, wtf is the point? C4 will not set off a metal detector and you can breeze right through. Why not save all the money on TSA and scanners and invest in drug & explosive sniffing dogs? At least they can’t steal stuff out of your bags while you are not looking.
I love to hear all the complaints. It means I’m safe on the plane. I will let you check all you want- and if you keep some lunatic from sending my flight down in a ball of flames… I’m happy.
Here’s an idea. 99% of terrorists are muslim males between 18 and 30 years old. Cut the crap of random searches and focus on the segment of the population that is most likely to want to kill us. Screw the terrorist loving ACLU.
I vote that anyone suspected of wanting to blow up a plane have to sit next to you on the next flight. No one cares what you look like on the naked body scanners. We just care that we arrive safely. Homeland security was developed after terrorists flew planes into buildings and killed thousands of people, remember? Shut up and go back to your liberal campsite.
I am fine with a pat down or the milimeter wave scanners. No X-ray for me though. Also, how about having separate lines so that folks can pick their poison in advance, rather than having to argue with the TSA. This was we can put the TSA “specialists” who know how to do a polite and sensitive pat down in the line for the folks who will accept no other form of screening.
I do not fly any more. Every where my family and I go we drive. Flying has gotten way out of hand….ESPECIALLY those extremely high airline ticket prices….it’s crazy enough that MOST airlines charge you a min. of $25 per bag…now they are gate-raping you at the airport before you are allowed to go to your gate to leave….I will stick to the old fashioned way of driving!
@ Deal with it…..why should we all have to wait until the airport before we find the terrorist? Does TSA really make you feel THAT safe? What happens when a bomber decides to blow up the masses waiting in the security lines? Providing you survive, would you still feel so safe?
Benjamin Franklin is quoted as saying “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” Now that may be a bit idealistic, but in any decision-making process, you have to weigh cost against benefits… and I think this new gropefest by the TSA may have made the cost to fly too high. Unless it’s an emergency, it’s too much of a hassle to fly anymore.
And if muslim women are indeed granted an exemption from this, Napolitano should be fired immediately.
For those writing we should just deal with it, it’s needed for security… will you feel the same next year when they add body cavity searches? Seems the best way now to carry on explosives is not just in your underwear but in the vagina or anus. Will you continue to baa baa for the government when the search includes bending over for a search of your rear end? Where does it stop for you? For me, it has stopped now.
There is nothing better than Christmas in the South. The Parade of Boats is definitely a treat if you have never been to it so I can appreciate you including it in this “list”. Most people also would not think of Key West at Christmas time because, well, most people associate Christmas with cold weather and snow (not warm weather and the beach). I have always heard of the holiday celebration(s) Key West offers in terms of lights and events, but have never actually been myself.
Right now, weather.com is reporting rain/snow mix during the day on the 25th and snow showers during the night. I’m sure that’s based off of one of the thousands of forecast models out there, but it’s exciting nonetheless! Who will be traveling on Christmas night anyways? I’d hope everyone will be where they need to be by Christmas day. I’d think that ice/snow/rain would do more damage if it took place on the 23rd, 24th or the 26th when people are really traveling. Having snow falling and accumulating on Christmas day would be fabulous.
I want to do this cruise Keith!!! WE should all go and take the kids. Michael said I could enjoy it with my parents. He’s not going!! What a pooper! It looks like so much and I want to do it before they are too old for it!!
My husband & I are taking our 3 kids, ages 10, 7 & 4 on this cruise in October and I cannot wait!! They have no idea yet because we know if we told them now, they’d worry us to death for the next 9-1/2 months!! Sounds so exciting!!!
Disney is not just for kids. There are adult only areas. My sister (67), my niece (44) and I (61) cruised about the Wonder last April. We have three cabins booked on the Dream with 8 females ages 12-68.in May.
I have been on 2 cruises would never do it again. I had to go on the second one or I wouldn’t have done that one. Maybe being Disney there will not be as many Drunks. People just Drank and Gambled. The food wasn’t that good and the shows are just ok. I hope the Diseny experience makes all the difference.
If you haven’t been on a Disney Cruise, you have not been on a cruise. They treat the kids like Gods, tons of stuff to do, Great shows, Great movies. Not sure about this new ship because it is just as big as the other ones out there, but the first 2 Disney ships are much smaller then the standard ones. Much more personnel. No gambling allowed and the adult areas are well hidden. Heck trying to find the sports bar was an adventure in itself. One bad thing, be prepared to sell a kidney.
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My dream trip is a trip to London and Paris. I want to see Stonehenge, Bath, Stratford-on-Avon, Oxford, Leeds, and many sights in and around Paris. I have dreamed of going there since I was young. When asked to choose a non-food reward for weight loss, I chose a London and Paris trip. I lost 170 lbs. I have earned the reward, but due to the economy, I cannot afford to go this year. Next year is the London Olympics, so I will not be going then (too expensive and crowded). Maybe by 2013, I can afford my reward.
Anywhere but Atlanta, except one cannot fly in or out of Atlanta airport because we have a city that is unprepared for snow. I have written to Delta airlines and begged them to seek another hub city. Atlanta airport is an embarrassment to travel.
Any one who can’t cope with a few days of snow and lack of conveniences should never leave their driveway and go anywhere. Once you do, you are not in control anymore. Best to watch travel on TV in your recliner chair.
surprised no one else has commented. yes, if you truly want to know if you are compatible with someone then take an extended trip with them.
i spent a week in maine with someone i was involved in a long distance relationship with, and that was enough time for us to realize that a full time, same place relationship would not work.
also spent a week traveling in the U.K. with (at the time) a couple of good friends. i now spend much more time with one than the other.
neediness, unflexibility, and a lack of an open mind while traveling seems to be a sign that i am not going to enjoy being around that person when not traveling.
WHERE ARE ALL THE AL GORE STORIES OF GLOBAL WARMING NOW????
OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT, THE STATE RUN MEDIA ONLY DOES THOSE ARTICLES WHEN WE REACH RECORD HIGH TEMPS.
THATS WHY THEY CALL IT GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE NOW, AFTER ALL WE ALL NEED HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!
sO,IF YOU BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE IN TAXES, AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT CHANGE IS ALL ABOUT!
What a pathetic comment. You obviously watch too much FOX News and listen to too much Rush Limbaugh. Sounds like you’ve been brainwashed also. Think for yourself for once.
I’m from Berrien County, so I know Enigma quite personally. They don’t sell souvenirs or anything, so you might want to skip that one. Then again, we do need the money. If you keep going a few more miles east, you’ll hit Alapaha, which is the home of Hogzilla. A few minutes more east is Willacoochee, home of the winner of Lewis Grizzard’s best bar in Georgia (No-Name).
Metro folks need to hit up Burke County, especially Gough (rhymes with cough). You’ll appreciate your lives a lot more. Burke is the poorest place I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been through 155 of the 159 counties.
Most disappointing? Pony Express. I was hoping for more than two convenience stores and a crossroads.
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Great article on Spring Break destinations — thanks. Our favorite Spring Break destination is the Gatlinburg area (including Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, which your article discusses) and The Gatlinburg Lodge at SmokyMountainViews.com . Great for large families, youth groups, church retreats, etc., due to its large size (over 4,000 sq ft), awesome views of the Smoky Mountains, amazing game room, hot tub, etc. About 10 miles from Downtown Gatlinburg, and about 15 miles from Dollywood Amusement Park, which your article also covered, in Pigeon Forge.
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We are splurging and going to Paris. Usually it’s St George Island. We decided to go about 5 months ago and bought our plane tickets around Thanksgiving. I am a teacher so we will be going in the beginning of April. We can’t wait!
I want to spring break Martinique, that is where the Jumbo Jets come right in a few feet off the beach. And when they blast off the back force throws you right into the ocean, it does not get any better than that. All of the above being said, I am going to take a “virtual” vacation, I’ll do it all online. That is how I hunt, when the deer trots across the screen I lock on it with my mouse and “click” the deer is history, then they dress and butcher it, wrap it and send it to me, it does not get any better than that, not necessarily for the deer.
Colorado has become our preferred spring break destination by a long shot. Absolutely nothing beats skiing at some of the best ski resorts in the world in early March, when the weather is usually sunny and pleasant. I would rather spend a day skiing then a day at the beach any day. A good spot to consider is the Frisco, CO area, as you are right in the middle of four major ski resorts (Copper, Breckenridge, Keystone, and Arapahoe Basin). Of course, you could always consider going to the much more trendy, crowded, and expensive resorts of Vail or Aspen. Other great resorts to consider are Steamboat, Telluride, and Winter Park.
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My wife and I love Cancun’s all-inclusive vacations. Their all-inclusive rates includes tips also. Our favorite resort is the Cancun Palace Resorts. The all-inclusive rate allows you to eat and enjoy the ammenities at all of the Palace properties in Cancun. My advise for all-inclusive first-timers is to take the 2-hour property presentation to get free activities not covered in the all-inclusive package such as golf and spa services. You can also get resort bucks to purchase souvenirs in the gift shops.
We went to Sandals Ocho Rios for our honeymoon. Overall, we had a good time. Once you get off the plance and pass customs Sandals has a little waiting area for you with drinks and food which nice. However, there was a two hour bus ride from the Montego Bay airport to the resort. However, I think they just opened a new international airport closer to Sandals Ocho Rios so that drive time should be down dramatically now. You have to sit thru a quick little greeting/presentation when you get to the resort and they you are off to get checked into your room. The food was ok…..not spectacular….pretty much the same thing on the breakfast buffet everyday. The dinners…you had to dress up…..and you had to make sure you get reservations far in advance of the time that you wanted to go to dinner. Also, you had to “pay” for any type of excursion for example Jet Ski’s or tours so that’s something to consider if you go………
My recommendation……..if you want pretty much everything to be taken care of…then I would pick an all inclusive trip. However, if you want to plan different things and eat at a variety of places in the local area that you go to….just plan it yourself…. We really have gotten in the habit of utilizing trip advisor to plan our vacations because you can see pictures of the hotels where you will be staying and get reviews that will help you plan an awesome vacation……we have used trip advisor on every trip that we have been on and have not been dissapointed yet.
I have to agree with Frank, the Palace Resorts on the Mayan Riviera was a nice resort with many amenities. I compare that to Club Med in the Dominican Republic, which was a nice place but didn’t offer as much ‘off the compound’.
http://www.discount-all-inclusive.com best rates I can get when I travel, and no I don’t work for them. I always book the Couples Resorts in Jamaica, more inclusions than Sandals and no discrimination between booking levels. No wristbands to wear either!!
my kids have passports. We got them when we went on a cruise a few years ago, but then realized we didn’t need them. Just booked a trip to the dominican republic, so we’ll need them…and really, I do wish we could travel more – inside and outside the country!
The reality is that there are so many places to go as a US citizen, in the caribbean, etc…that that’s why some people don’t travel abroad.
At one of my jobs, a coworker had worked for delta for a long time (more than five years) and we all made fun of him since he still didn’t have his passport and had never been outside the country. It was quite amusing.
I’m glad we all have passports. And while we wouldn’t necessarily have to go somewhere quickly, and would probably not make plans to go anywhere quickly – they’re good to have. We only recently made the plans to go for spring break, so if we had to also get a passport for the kids – we wouldn’t have gone at all.
Yes i have a passport… but only use it for cruises ( on Carnival ) out of Florida.. drive to, so no flying is involved… best bang for the $$$.. fun, food, gambling, shows, relaxing, wife likes it, etc… U.S. folks are realizing too much debt… saving $$$ so no need for expensive trips to Europe or Asia, etc…. flying has become more diificult too
You should also consider that in many countries (in Europe for example), countries are much smaller than than US so even traveling just a few hours requires a passport to cross into another country. The US is HUGE and we have tons of places to experience that don’t require you to leave the country. Think about how you can fly 3000 miles across the country and still be in the same country; try doing that in Europe. Plus until recently could visit Canada, Mexico and almost any Caribbean country without one. My husband and I have traveled out of the country numerous times and didn’t get passports until the rules changed for Mexico and the Caribbean. It’s simply more affordable to go somewhere close to home that doesn’t require a passport.
I have one because I travel internationally for work. But I wouldn’t probably have one otherwise. Why? Because airfare for a family of 3 to cross an ocean would be cost-prohibitive, making it probably a once in a lifetime deal.
Because I do travel internationally for work I manage to rake in a lot of frequent flyer mileage, but we often use that to travel domestically because a domestic ticket will only cost ~50K freq flyer miles but a single international ticket is 150K, which is the total cost for the entire family to travel domestically.
Eventually, I’d like to save up enough freq flyer miles to take the whole family on one of my work trips where they can play tourist while I am in meetings all day.
Techmom: Your no longer required to show a passport when crossing a border between any country that is a member of the EU where the “Euro” is traded. There are no more “Customs” stations at the border of these countries.
I’m not surprised that the number is 30% with passports. Some advice. Don’t wait around to renew a passport until the time to travel or the price of a ticket is “right”. There are times when opportunities for travel abroad occur unexpectedly and if you have to wait around for the passport to be renewed, the opportunity could be lost.
Have traveled to Canada and abroad several times. My passport has expired and will renew it when needed. Our travels keep us in the US as there is so…much to see here and places we have not yet visited. Flights are too long as well. It is insulting to say, give the UK a $1 and get about 60 pounds back. If we want to go to the islands, we will visit the Virgin Islands. I work for an international company and b/c of travel budgets, have stayed put for now. I choose to keep my travel dollars in the US. Once the dollar catches up, we may go back to Europe as I want to revisit Italy.
My husband and I both have passports. We needed to get one for my son before we went on vacation last year and because his father and I are divorced, it was a pain in the A**. His dad wouldn’t sign the papers. My divorce papers state that I have physical and legal custody of my child and I sent those with the application. I ended up having to get a lawyer to help get his passport.
I think that all Amercians should have a passport….it could prove that you are an American citizen and entitled to be here.
I’ve got a passport, but I don’t use it. Why go where people hate your guts anyway? I’d just as soon travel the United States.
And I’ve made it a personal goal to never spend a nickel in a country like France. They can kiss my American butt. I’d like to see Normandy, but that would be it. Maybe we could save a few bucks by moving the United Nations HQ to Paris!
There may be a time when you need to get out of Dodge. Having a passport can make that possible, assuming the govnerment hasn’t already closed the door. Having another country’s passport is even better.
If you have a family, the airfare alone is enough to make you think 2x about taking a trip overseas. It is just easier to take a trip to Orlando or Vegas.
I do have a passport, and I have used it to go to Europe and South America. Everyone should atleast travel out of the country once in their lives. It will give you a whole new perspective. I guess for many people, they need to wait until they retire or before they have kids to do so.
I have an expired passport that will need to be renewed soon. It doesn’t surprise me at all that so few American’s don’t have passports. I didn’t get mine until I needed too, it is expensive to travel oversea’s and only recently was it a requirement to have one to go into Canada. So if you don’t live close to the border, or you are not making big plans, it is much more cost efficient to travel within the United States. It is simply economics and nothing more. At least that is how I see it.
I would really like to see more Americans have the desire to travel outside the country. It would be good for our country if more people took part in the experience of international travel. It is expensive. But mainly I think people just don’t make it a priority. It’s too bad for our country that so many people are so isolated.
I used to have a passport when I was a white-collar worker. It has since expired and I now drive a truck. I used to be able to cross from Canada back into the U.S. with a certified copy of my birth certificate. When I was a white-collar worker, my company would reimburse me for the cost of passport photos, my passport, and any visas I needed for company travel. The trucking company I work for will not reimburse me for the cost of renewing my passport. If they don’t feel it is so important for me to take loads into Canada that they’ll cover that cost, then I will not get a passport for their benefit.
I think there are alternatives to the reasons why Americans don’t travel abroad, and when I say alternatives I mean other ways around the excuses we give. I am in my 4th year with Delta and I’ve been around the world and am only 23, I’m leaving to Japan next weekend. There’s too many jobs that provide travel benefits, that takes care of the costs, but I honestly believe that we don’t travel because we’ve been given the perception that the world is this big scary place outside of the US, in every other country they hate Americans. We’ve been fed myths and it has made many people close their minds to other cultures and ways of living. I think it’s a sad life learning about other people from just reading them in books. This is why our country is so behind in most aspects, other countries encourage their citizens to come here, explore, learn, and guess what? They take that info back and recreate what we have and make it better.
I’m saddened that more Americans do not have passports. Visiting countries abroad is one of the most fulfilling things to happen in my life. In fact, my children had passports before they could talk. Exploring other cultures opens the world of possibilities for both children and adults. This year my passport will expire and I plan to renew it immediately. Even though we have not traveled abroad for 6 years now due to the high cost I remain ready once things turn around.
I have held a passport since 1993 and recently renewed mine, receiving it in less than a week from when I mailed it. That suggested to me the demand for passports is relatively low right now, due to the economy. I didn’t get any stamps in my last passport and have been vexed to commit to any overseas trips now because they are so expensive. For every good airfare to Europe, you are guaranteed to pay various taxes on your ticket that will be in the hundreds of dollars.
For a family it gets exponentially more expensive to travel abroad. So I can see why we choose to stay home nowadays.
No change in plans here. I have so much money that the small increase in gas prices is negligible. My 10-mile-a-gallon landcruiser is like a living room on wheels. I love Sunday afternoon drives with no particluar place to go.
Yep, my change of plan is to pass all the expenses onto the very elite. I will increase prices little for the middleclass but the wealthy and the politicians I will increase by huge amounts. It is the present leadersship policy to make Americans suffer because they are stupid, arrogant, or simply not liked by other nations. The present leadership has no energy policy except to cripple an oil based economy.
At $5 a gallon, I promise you the economy will collapse. There is no economic recovery as the main stream media states, here’s why:
1. 44 million people on food stamps-all time high
2. Over 1 million foreclosures in 2010-all time high
3. Food Price Index-all time high currently
4. 20% plus real unemployment rate-if you believe the government’s number of 8.9% you’re a moron.
5. Homes sales and home values are weak
6. Increasing trade deficits with China and other nations
7. Manufacturing jobs in the US have moved out of the country
8. 14 trillion dollar deficit and Congress may raise the debt ceiling
9. State pension crisis
10. California, Illinois, and several other states virtually bankrupt
11. Municipal bond crisis for local governments set to explode
12. Social Security is already in the red
13. The value of the dollar is declining
My fiance and I typically take 2 “big” vacations a year. I think that will stay the same. We also usually fly domestically for “mini” vacations once a month. When we consider the rapid increase in airfare, we will probably cut down on our domestic vacations; opting to go once every other month or so. One good thing that I have seen (and taken advantage of) are specials on hotels. I recently booked a hotel in San Francisco for 50% off. That is a huge deal and helps ease the pain of the high airfares.
I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that the price of fuel comes down and airlines lower their fares.
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Pamela
March 4th, 2009
10:00 am
It’s not safe at all! If the Mexican Authorities are warning Americans NOT to come to Mexico for Spring Break due to their very high crime rate in murder…then what do you think? I wouldn’t go period!
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Politically Correct
March 4th, 2009
10:15 am
Probably safer than spring break in certain parts of Gwinnett County.
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Mike
March 4th, 2009
10:31 am
My wife and recently changed our plans to celebrate our 5 year anniversary in Cancun due to the violence in Mexico. We even had a free place to stay at a very nice condo. We are instead booking a cruise to the Caribbean. Safety is my biggest concern.
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lovelyliz
March 4th, 2009
10:58 am
If you don’t plan on getting drunk and stupid, Mexico might be safe enough, but then that’s exactly why they go, RIGHT?
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Erin
March 4th, 2009
11:09 am
I am probably one of many that has booked a vacation in Mexico and can not get out of the reservation due to costly cancelation fees. I am going to try and keep my activities with groups and tour guides as aposed to freely traveling the area I will visit this month.
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Peggy
March 4th, 2009
11:17 am
I was going to cancel my reservations on JetBlue.
When I called them, they didn’t know what I was talking about. Said they didn’t know about a State Dept. Alert. I am not going until May so I am in a wait and see mode…..Thanks for this story though and help us find out the airlines policies….
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John T
March 4th, 2009
11:48 am
No worries here…just use a little common sense. Been three years in a row to Mexico on spring break with the family with no problems or concerns. I have also been on personal business in areas of Mexico where no gringos are probably within a hundred miles, often seeing armed military checkpoints along the way. Never felt truly unsafe, even though I was aware of some kidnappings. To insure your safety it’s simple… don’t wander around late at night in unfamiliar areas, don’t wear a lot of jewelry or flash a lot of cash and always be aware of your surroundings. Not much different than here in Atlanta. The Mexican people are by and large very friendly and gracious to tourists. Much more so in my opinion than some of the Carribean destinations I’ve been to before. Also, hard to believe but right now it is cheaper for us to go there than Florida… and guaranteed warm temperatures!
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jabster
March 4th, 2009
11:57 am
You know, if it wasn’t for the 21 National Minimum Drinking Age, college students wouldn’t even be going to Mexico for Spring Break. Put the drinking age back to 18, like it was for the baby boomers.
http://www.chooseresponsibility.org
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Linda
March 4th, 2009
12:07 pm
People should not be scared to go to Mexico for vacation or spring break if they travel to safer places, other than Ciudad Juarez or Tijuana for example, where drug cartel problems exist. Other areas of Mexico are not experiencing these problems and just because an advisory is put out for certain areas doesn’t mean you should avoid all of Mexico. I have lived north of Puerto Vallarta for 3 years and people are vacationing here and in Puerto Vallarta and enjoying Mexico. Mexico depends on tourism for its economy and the Mexican people and businesses who depend on tourists for their living will suffer when the the media puts out blanket statements about avoiding
Mexico.
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MarShele
March 4th, 2009
12:17 pm
My son and friends have reservations for a resort in Puerto Vallarta. Anyone know anything about the safety in this area? I am very nervous about him traveling in Mexico, but he says he isn’t able to get the $ back for the resort which was paid in advance. He has travel insurance so his flight would be covered but not the resort fees.
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DavidS
March 4th, 2009
12:47 pm
The sad part is that the most recent problems in Mexico are a DIRECT result of the US government’s failed War On Drugs. No, Mexico is a country rife with corruption, violent police, and financial and social problems caused by government monetary policy and a complete disrespect for property rights. That being said, if drugs were relegalized in this country (as they were before 1915), the drug crime problem in Mexico and the United States would disappear virtually overnight.
Don’t believe me? Just look at crime statistics during and after the end of alcohol Prohibition. The same organized crime activities of drive by shootings, killings over territory, police corruption, etc. were rampant and a direct result of the illegality of alcohol. Those same problems are present now because of the illegality of drugs. Millions in this country routinely use frugs without harming anyone but themselves (and even personal harm could be debated). It is the dealers and distributors that are involved in most of the violent crime, as well as users stealing to afford the black market inflated prices that would surely drop to affordable levels were they legal.
You don’t ever worry about a Budweiser and a Miller beer truck driver shooting it out on the street over territory. That competition is handled by salesmen in a non-violent manner. Likewise, CVS and Rite-Aid pharmacists would not be killing people in the street were they allowed to peacefully sell a defined, well-labelled, regulated substance that many peacefully wish to use. More violent crime is associated with people under the influence of alcohol than drugs, yet with one we learned our lesson of failure and the other, the failure continues.
Utopia, no. Still a medical problem? Yes. But considering the billions spent every year just on the judicial system costs let alone the other societal costs of the violence and the destroyed families, legalization is clearly the only workable, constitutional, and wise solution to the drug problem the government should be considering.
For the unfortunate victims in Mexico and our inner cities, it would certainly be a welcome blessing for their situations. Spring break would be just the beginning of safer times in Mexico and the US.
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traveller
March 4th, 2009
12:48 pm
There are drug related murders in Miami, Detroit, and Atlanta regularly. Doesn’t mean the US is an overly dangerious country and the whole place should be avoided. The people in Mexico are mostly honest hardworking people. Don’t do drugs and criminal acts in Mexico and stay in the populated resort areas and there shouldn’t be a problem. I think it is a knee jerk reaction.
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micah
March 4th, 2009
12:57 pm
Im going to cancun mexico in about 2 weeks. my parents are going with me and my friends. But they are freakin out about all the drug cartel stuff.. is it safe to go? or should we try to relocate. I do not want to be some where that is very unsafe. go or not??
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Shanel
March 4th, 2009
1:07 pm
I just watched a special on this the other night. Two reporters went to Tijuana to investigate. They obtained a police radio scanner so that they could hear the murder calls come across the scanner.
They started out the day as the sun was coming up. The reporters followed murder call after murder call ALL day. The sun was going down when one reporter said: We’ve seen enough! (something like 6k murders last year?)
These were assignations not shootings! Machine guns, severed heads, etc. The reporters had to be escorted by armed guards every where they went.
They interviewed the chief of police who said the day before his election, 30 men rushed his home and tore it to shreds with machine guns. He got away. He was eventually fired from his position as chief and within one month, the next chief was assassinated.
It’s a VERY serious situation and I would not advise ANYONE to choose this as a resort destination at this time. An ounce of prevention…..
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DavidS
March 4th, 2009
1:23 pm
Notice that the alcohol supporters recognize the economic value of freedom too. States like Arizona and Wyoming and others used to also see positive economic benefit from the lower drinking age when other states around them were at 21. Restrictive Blue Laws and high taxation continue to benefit adjoining freedom loving states still. Big surprise. Personal responsibility is imperative, but freedom does work. Just look at the tourism business in Holland and more specifically Amsterdam. A wonderful city where both marijuana and prostitution coexist with everyone in charming neighborhoods filled with families, children and the elderly. No big deal.
Personally I never felt safe at all in Mexico as far back as the early 80’s. Shakedowns by corrupt police, unhealty water, abject poverty, poor roads. Maybe at some of the big tourist resorts like Cancun, Cabo San Lucas and other places on the Mexican Riviera, but any of the smaller border towns like Juarez, Tiajuana, or even more south like Ensenada are just powder kegs waiting to explode. The Drug War will be just one of the many sparks that lights the fuse.
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Lynn
March 4th, 2009
1:25 pm
About as safe as a train wreck!!!!!!!!
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John T
March 4th, 2009
1:34 pm
MarShele…PV is very safe. I’ve been there the last two years for spring break and had no issues and I’ve seen about all there is to see there. Read my post above about using common sense. Although I went with my family and did not venture into the big off-resort drinking spots like Senior Frogs, PV has a good rep…more so than its neighbor to the south, Alcapulco. Cab drivers are a little crazy though.
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StevenCee
March 4th, 2009
1:38 pm
Mexico, or for that matter, most of our cities right here in America, wouldn’t be dangerous if we once and for all ended the nearly half-century failure of the “war on drugs”!
Just as in the first Prohibition, where the consequences became far worse than the “cure”, drive-by shootings, gangsters & their violence & corruption of officials running rampant, and even increasing numbers of fatalities due to people drinking unregulated booze, we see the same, and worse today!
Oddly, it took this nation only a little more than 10 years to right this huge mistake, and it took a constitutional amendment to do so, yet we see decade after decade go by, with conditions only getting worse, until now we see more murders in Mexico, in one year, than our forces have suffered in six years of fighting a real war in Iraq!
Decriminalizing, regulating, and taxing drugs would not only be a boon to our economy, & allow law enforcement & the prison system to focus on violent criminals, but it would yank the rug out from under the drug cartels, & homeland gangs, by instantly removing the huge profits from their trafficking!
When will we finally wake up?
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Kim
March 4th, 2009
1:43 pm
Me and my husband just returned from a resort in Cancun, Mexico on Feb 28th and we did not experience any problems. We stayed for 7 days, we walked to Downtown Cancun and took the bus to various locations. I am not sure what people are talking about when they are saying it is not safe.
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Worried Mom
March 4th, 2009
1:47 pm
Great, just great. Yet another thing for us parents to worry about! Thank goodness that won’t be an issue in my house. My 17 year old daughter will be in college next year & she knows such a thing is out of the question. I’m very strict with her. She’s not allowed out at night unless it’s with her dad & me; & on weekends she’s allowed to go to the library or shopping with the one friend my husband & I approve of. Boys/dating? OUT OF THE QUESTION! We insist she dress modestly in long loose dresses or blouse & skirt, her hair is kept plain & short & absolutely no make-up. We monitor everythig she reads, views & listens to. Of course she complains about being unpopular & being treated like a freak at school but what else can I do? Better unpopular than a victim of rape or murder.
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Janie
March 4th, 2009
1:59 pm
Well, there’s some pretty violent parts right here in America, and it doesn’t stop people from visiting.
I say don’t be scared, and live you life, and go where you want. But just pay attention to your surroundings. Common sense people.
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Val
March 4th, 2009
2:28 pm
Dear Worried Mom,
I understand your concern about your daughter. But, you should know that once your daughter is off to college and turns 18, you will have no control over what she does or wears unless she lives at home. You have a higher chance of causing her to rebel (even if secretly) rather than keeping her “under control”. I would suggest teaching her how to be streetsmart and make smart decisions wherever she goes and no matter what she does. You cannot be at her side forever.
As for Cancun: I am waiting for more people living in the area to respond. That would be more helpful. Lots of murders and drive-bys happen just 30 miles from me in places like Compton/Lynwood. Where I live, its not dangerous at all. I hoping this is the case with Cancun since it is about 1400 miles away from all the serious fighting. More input from Mexican locals please!
Thanks!
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Donna
March 4th, 2009
2:31 pm
The BORDER towns are the problem, not the rest of the country. Do you know how big Mexico is??? This hysteria is getting out of control. I just got back from Puerto Escondido, Oaxaca (that’s in Mexico). I was there for a month. NO PROBLEMS. If people take simple precautions anywhere when they travel, they will not run into problems.
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Camille
March 4th, 2009
2:31 pm
If a college-aged child wants to go to Mexico (given that the child is not still living at home), there is nothing the parent can really do, no matter how “strict” the parents would like to be. Sometimes being overly strict backfires in that once the child goes off to college and learns how much fun he/she can have, they do things that would have been “out of the question” when at home. And, there’s nothing that the parent can do about it unless they plan on moving on-campus themselves to monitor the poor child. I’ve been there, so I do know what I’m talking about.
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Quinn
March 4th, 2009
2:43 pm
Everyone here is extremely overreacting. Violence along the border of Mexico is bad, but places like Acapulco and Cancun are safe enough for drunken spring break debauchery. Think of it like this: If the bloods and the crips were having an all out war in Chicago, a blood might shoot a crip in Miami Beach, but that doesn’t mean that Miami isn’t safe. There may be isolated incidents in resort towns, just as there is isolated violence in all major U.S. Cities. Bottom line: the reosrts are 1,000 miles away from the violent border cities. They are packed with people. You are fine to go.
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JJ
March 4th, 2009
3:08 pm
Worried Mom, you are joking, right?
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Karen
March 4th, 2009
3:15 pm
I was in Cancun last weekend with a colleague and we had no problems, except for the return flight on Sunday being cancelled because of snow in Atlanta. The beach was beautiful and we did not feel unsafe at any time. Due to the downturn in the US economy, we saw more Canadians and wealthy Mexicans at our resort. Live your life and see the world for yourself! Do not give in to the fear mongering perpetuated by the American media.
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Ceci Wong
March 4th, 2009
3:53 pm
Tijuana has more than 2 milion habitants and has many issues in the Eastern zones, (I DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET THERE) but why blame Rosarito Beach? With the new road you don’t even touch base in Tijuana to get there.
Spring Break will be safe and fun as always. Is like not going to Anaheim because of East LA killings!!! Come on guys…
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Donna
March 4th, 2009
5:49 pm
For the record, in 2007 there were 16,929 murders,90,427 forcible rapes, with 1,408,337 violent crimes. Where??? The United States of America. I think things should be kept in perspective.
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ccunningham
March 4th, 2009
8:39 pm
The State Dept didn’t say “don’t go to Mexico”, it said to use the same common sense precautions you’d use in the US—stay outa dark alleys & away from drug & prostitution areas. They have wisely advised to avoid Tijuana, Juarez, Matamoros, & other border towns….even including Rosarita Beach, tho we have friends who just returned from there, but they were a middle-aged couple, not college kids on break.
We just returned from Puerto Escondido, Zipolite, & Huatulco, & I’d assure you it’s a lot safer there than in a lot of places in the US. Don’t be deceived by the media furor, or government propaganda! Statistics say that if you’re 3 times more likely to be a victim of violence in the US than in Mexico, as long as you use the same precautions you’d use at home.
Mexico is an incredibly beautiful country, filled with friendly, helpful, & welcoming people. And many of them depend on tourism to pay their bills & feed their families. Go to any resort area, & you’ll have a great time, while helping out the people of Mexico.
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MarShele
March 4th, 2009
10:42 pm
Thanks John T. That makes me feel a little better. He has reserved a shuttle ride from the airport to the resort so may not have to deal with cab, however, maybe the shuttle is the same situation! Thanks again.
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Besafe
March 4th, 2009
11:30 pm
Mexico is not a safe vacation destinatio period. 30% of all non-natural deaths of U.S. citizens outside this country occur in Mexico. To read tragic Mexico vacation DEATH stories, many written by heartbroken family members visit:WWW.MEXICOVACATIONAWARENESS.COM
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Chris Broe
March 5th, 2009
1:56 am
Mexico is not safe. The girls gone wild video crews will be there.
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SonKilledinMexico
March 5th, 2009
12:50 pm
My 18 year old son was killed in a border town last march and he was using common sense not doing anything illegal and only barely had one beer in his system. Sometimes just being in a dangerous environment and looking like a duck out of water he was blonde green eyed muscular young man with a big smile and when he was found he was beaten to death. Guns didnt kill him, knives didnt kill him people did and they were young gang members that took him with no motive and beat him to death with sticks. I dont recommend any parent or person going near the border unless you want to go to a third world country and identify your child or relative in a morgue because that s always a possibility which is something I would never wish even on the parents of the people who murdered my son. Not good memories and there was nothing I could do to keep my son from going to mexico. He had his own money bought his own tickets and went no matter how much I told him “I don’t think it’s safe and to please stay away from the border.” When kids are young and think they are invincible they will do what they want. I still feel like if only I could have done something and feel if I could have handcuffed him to his door knob to keep him from going.. but, it happened.. and he was in the wrong place and met the wrong people and the only thing I believe he was trying to do was help someone else out that he saw that was being beaten. In America I believe most people adhere to good samaritan morals or rules and would put their self out there to help someone else and that was how my son was. I feel people do not practice that same thing in mexico if they see something they will turn their head and let you bleed to death in the street. They do not want to be involved. To me my son will always be a hero but, I just want to let other parents know that yes it can happen and sometimes you cant do anything to stop it no matter how much you warn your kids. I m glad that the warnings are getting out there because I saw nothing of the warnings last year and it was still really bad at that time it was just not being talked about. Also alot of deaths in mexico of american citizens are being reported in reports by our state department as “accidents”not ” homicides ” so I don’t feel that would give us correct numbers or correct information do you?
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Scott
March 5th, 2009
2:37 pm
Being a regular traveller to Mexico I can tell you as long as you stick to the main tourist spots you will be fine.We have travelled to area’s such as Puerto Vallarta and Cancun on some occasions multiple times in a year with no sense of trouble or none of the tension or ”corruption” people speak of.We have always had a really good time and continue to travel to the region.With that being said the border towns such as Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and other towns well known for the drug trade should be avoided at all costs particularly now with the drug cartels battling it out.We have never been and will never go to the border towns, just far to corrupt and with the U.S. being where the drugs are going (or trying to get), the border towns are where the trouble lurks…Use your common sense when travelling anywhere in the world.Mexico has it’s problems but then again so does Canada, and right in your own backyard.You wouldnt walk into a drug dealing neighborhood in the U.S so why would you do it anywhere else?
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Worriedsick
March 5th, 2009
10:33 pm
Thank-you for writing about Son killed in Mexico. I sent my son your story and hopes he listens to your warning. He is going on a Mission trip Spring Break with his chruch and the minster has him and everyone else who is going convinced that it’s safe. Does anyone know or have been to Piedras Negras? Its on the board across from Eagle Pass.
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Scott
March 5th, 2009
11:08 pm
worriedsick, the border towns are to be avoided at this time.As per warnings from the goverment.
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T.L. Brink
March 6th, 2009
2:02 am
I have had a house in Acapulco since 1992, and I have been to DF, TJ, and CJ many times in the last few years. I read the police blotter of El Sol and Novedades newspapers everyday. Almost all the big crimes occur outside of town or else in bad neighborhoods (e.g., Zapata, Renacimiento) that tourists have no reason to go to in the first place. Every year, three or four American tourists die in Acapulco, but I cannot think of any due to political or drug violence. The major factor in 90% of the cases is traffic accidents.
So, don’t drive here and be super careful crossing the street.
This is a great place for spring break, and you don’t need a high priced package, because there are many cheap hotels, restaurants, stores, night clubs, etc. (as well as the pricey places).
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jimmy
March 6th, 2009
12:15 pm
i was in tijuana mon and tues mar. 2 & 3 for a dentist appointment..i went with a friend and we stayed in a hotel there..lots of police on the street which made me feel very safe..we had no problems…as for acapulco, i was there three times last year and i am on my way back the week of march 16th…i was in cancun in jan. 09 and had a wonderful time..no problems..i drink alcohol with friends at the clubs but i do not get stupid drunk…do not use drugs so there are no problems… anywhere you go you can be a victim of crime. the only crime i saw was people trying to sell you junk on the beach..lol.enjoy your vacations in mexico…
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Laura
March 6th, 2009
3:52 pm
there is problems like in every other country. Some times I’m scared to be in the US just thinking everyone has a gun!!! We are just victims of a panic campaing. If you travel, of course you have to be careful and follow the rules. If you just want to get drunk and do whatever, then you will probalby get in trouble. We need some criteria instead of believing everything we say…The bottom line is: we are the ones buying drugs and we are the ones selling arms to Mexico mafias.
Mexico is a beautiful country with some much to offer beyond the beaches… and this drug war is in specific areas, not every where you go.
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Royce Penstinger
March 7th, 2009
5:45 pm
2008 saw more people killed in Mexico than were killed in either Iraq or Afghanistan…would you go do Spring Break in Iraq? Seriously, why risk losing your head traveling to Mexico…besides, KEEP AMERICAN DOLLARS IN AMERICA.
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Scared of Worried Mom
March 9th, 2009
7:15 pm
Worried Mom: What you should be woried about is the problems your daughter will have as a result of your sheltering her from a normal, human experience. Wearing makeup and making new friends does not invite rape and murder. Keeping your child locked in the basement throughout her adolesence, however, will leave her completely unable to cope with the real world. That poor girl is going to snap one day and act out in a way that WILL invite problems into her life.
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Robby
March 10th, 2009
3:56 pm
i am going to Puerto Vallarta and i plan to get wasted 16 to 20 hours per day! dont buy drugs or wander around along if your a girl. (if you are a girl thinking of wandering around along look me up)
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Mexico Drug Violence Is a Major Party Foul
March 10th, 2009
7:46 pm
[...] college kids prepare for Spring Break, many are receiving warnings from their schools and parents about a favorite destination: Mexico. Escalating violence between [...]
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aash
March 11th, 2009
5:22 pm
fuk u mate sdait pats is the best u ass
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Chiatt
March 11th, 2009
10:32 pm
Still time to order a St. Patrick’s Day t-shirt. http://www.stpattys.com. 1 day shipping to Atlanta.
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Rob
March 12th, 2009
12:20 am
If you were not born in Ireland, your not Irish! Idiot
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cheMicAL aNgEL
March 12th, 2009
11:47 am
It’s on Tuesday . . . In Ireland. We miss school, hah.
And Rob, you’re the idiot>.<
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Alan
March 13th, 2009
3:55 pm
What the hell is there to blog about? How about a topic on all the crime caused by the thugs in Atlanta?
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Rene J.
March 13th, 2009
5:29 pm
I just returned from Cancun last week and it was as fantastic as always. The fact that some crimes happened in downtown Cancun doesn’t have anything to do with the safety in the Hotel Zone. It is rare for tourists to go downtown anyway, nor would you go to an area in your own town that may possibly be dangerous. The media loves to put a one sided twist on everything because that is what draws attention, but even if you were to stay at home all day something could happen. So, please use normal common sense and enjoy all the beauty that Mexico and Cancun has to offer.
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Brandi
March 13th, 2009
5:42 pm
Alan, you’re ignorant. I think you need a vacation. Can you sing?
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phil
March 13th, 2009
8:03 pm
Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
You’ll be surprised
You’re doing the French Mistake!!
VOILA!!
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Jerome
March 14th, 2009
10:19 am
Alan, this article deals with TRAVEL so it was placed in the TRAVEL section. If you want to talk CRIME then look in the Metro/ State section you dumba**.
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mom of 3 teenagers
March 14th, 2009
11:15 am
I think the “Worried Mom” response was made up, it sounded bogus to me. If not, then it’s very sad. Part of your job as parent is not only to keep your kids safe but also prepare them to live on their own in the world. Sheltering them from everything isn’t the answer. You give them bits of responsibility as they grow while they are still in your home so you are their safety net. Wearing makeup doesn’t make you a prostitute. Haven’t you heard of moderation? A young lady can dress modestly, wear natural looking makeup and go on a date without being “ruined”. Just set some ground rules that have to be followed.
I think that the economy is going to cause more college kids to stay home than the fear of violence. My college aged nephew has been on spring break this past week and he and his friends didn’t go on a trip to Mexico or even Florida.
I think if these kids use common sense and caution they should be ok if they stay in the resort areas and don’t go off the beaten path. However, common sense and caution doesn’t come naturally to college kids so it might be best if they stayed closer to home.
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Barely Speakin'
March 14th, 2009
11:21 am
I think this’d be one of the greatest jobs ever! On Millennium (Celebrity), the domestic staff was elevated to ombudsman status; Caribbeans. But on the down side they can exact showcase talent. Any qualifier could likely find more durable entertaining work. RCCL count so heavily on the shows to carry the reputation.
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Dawn
March 14th, 2009
8:40 pm
I’m with Alan, let’s talk crime and Thug’s. Who hires Thug’s? Atlanta Police Department and Piedmont Hospital.
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Lulu
March 14th, 2009
8:41 pm
Dawn – if you don’t want to be around them, then go back to where you came from…under a rock.
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Melissa
March 15th, 2009
4:09 pm
Dawn, you’re sickening. I hope you don’t think you’re doing the world a favor by being in it.
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cindy
March 15th, 2009
4:48 pm
dang! and I thought it was bad as hell in Detroit!!!!
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tweety
March 15th, 2009
7:24 pm
Dawn you are one stupid and ignorant female version of trash…and I bet you didnt say that when your azz chomped down on those chicken nuggets!!!!
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John
March 17th, 2009
1:28 pm
Actually, it’s Sichuan Province, not Chengdu; Chengdu is the provincial capital.
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Ugh
March 18th, 2009
12:15 pm
If your family is anything like my in-laws, DON’T DO IT. Even though we all are fortunate to have enough money to vacation separately, we go on a family vacation every year. It is HORRIBLE. Every year all the “kids” (grown adults) dread the vacation but somehow feel forced to go anyway. It is agony. I literally start dreading the next year’s vacation on the last day of the current year’s vacation. It causes me and my sister-in-laws SO much stress because my mother-in-law is evil and no one likes her. I am very grateful to have a family and a place to stay, but I can honestly say that I would prefer to stay home and go to work. One year I did not go and it caused ALL kinds of drama. Good grief, no vacation is better than this vacation!
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vee
March 18th, 2009
2:10 pm
I’ve always spent a lot of time visiting with family and friends. I’m fortunate to have several weeks a year off work and I love to travel. My budget doesn’t allow for as much as I’d like. Staying with family and friends makes it possible. When I go to my little sister’s house I feel like I’m at a spa. I’m always treated like royalty. I’ve even visited with my best friend’s family and with my father’s Navy buddies. Being shown around by the locals makes it special. No tourist traps for me. I always try to make myself useful and not be a burden. It also helps to prepare a meal or two for my hosts or take them out.
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Theresa Walsh Giarrusso
March 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
Hey Keith — Love the phrase “friends and family” tour — very cute!! We are having a family of 5 come to stay with us this summer from Washington DC. We visited with them last spring break and the kids all got along so well we thought it would be big fun to have them come and stay with us. The mom has never been to Atlanta so she’s excited to see the South. Each family will have two bedrooms and a bath. We’ve got a big backyard so I think in between sigh seeing with them the kids will just run and play out back. I think it’s going to be so much to have them here and other than gas and some tourism costs basically a free vacation for them. I think it’s such a nice old-fashioned concept to see new places and stay with family and friends — plus it does save money.
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Dee
March 18th, 2009
7:01 pm
Were plannin a family vacation over the spring break next month, we’ll be staying in a cabin in Pigeon Forge TN. Along with our parents, there will be 7 siblings and our families for a total of ~23 people. 4 of the 7 siblings have been laid off, so the 3 working siblings will be picking up most of the cost. Fortunately, we all get along great, in-laws and all and we love getting the kids (ages 4-14) together. We’re all looking forward to it!
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ktdid
March 18th, 2009
11:39 pm
We are getting ready to leave on a cruise for spring break. We are going to Catalina and Ensenada. We have been following the news and researching on the internet, but still don’t feel like we’re getting the answers we are looking for. At this point we have decided to stay on the boat when we get to Ensenada. We just don’t want to take the chance. There are eight of us going including my mom and dad and my two sisters and their husbands. Some of us have been to Mexico many times before and now we just don’t feel safe. Does anyone know if the boat actually docks at Ensenada or are we to take smaller boats in? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Ben Castelli
March 20th, 2009
3:19 pm
I work with the Travel Channel online team and the Switzerland episode mentioned in the post is actually the upcoming episode on Monday March 23rd. In addition to snowboarding, he also competes in Schwingen (Swiss wrestling). There is a preview on his YouTube page http://www.youtube.com/dhanijones.
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kristin
March 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm
Yup – and I review the sites before I book a hotel room. It’s a way to help make an informed decision about where to stay. You can usually tell the nit picky complaints from a reoccurring theme (as in one REALLY bad hotel (super smokey and RUDE) that I stayed in Chicago)
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David Lee
March 23rd, 2009
12:58 pm
I think it’s all about intent: What do you want to get out of this? If you just want to vent to make yourself feel superior, then it’s a waste of time. And it should be constructive feedback, not just whining. And I do feel people have become just plain rude and demanding. But yes, ultimately, they’re trying to get my money for their service, so it’s worth it to keep them accountable and hopefully make things better for the next person, and your visit.
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Oh yes
March 23rd, 2009
3:59 pm
Tripadvisor.com & Yahoo travel are the best travel sites on the web for reviews. I check it for hotels reviews and locale info. I also tell the hotel desk that I post reviews, good and bad, and they will be reviewed. It’s amazing how well you are often treated when you mention Tripadvisor, even when I have a Hotwire or Priceline res. The info should be out there so the public can make good purchasing decisions.
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Mike
March 23rd, 2009
5:53 pm
I frequently check Trip Advisor for hotel and activity ratings. I frequently post reviews but try not to be too negative. I generally have middle of the road expectations so I don’t get too diappointed unless its really bad… One such negative review related to a multi day hotel stay with NO hot water. Management kept saying it was going to be fixed. I unded up speaking with one of the repairmen on the day I was leaving and he said the part had just arrived and mgmt knew when to expect it.
when reading reviews, I generally toss out the most extreme on both the negative and positive ends of the spectrum.
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tony from california
March 24th, 2009
12:47 am
i think it was cool that someone like yourslf would even think of doing something like swiss wrestling. I know because i use to swiss wrestle here in california, good job Dhani, p.s. you have a new fan.
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Owen
March 26th, 2009
4:31 pm
hi there if you are an actor or singer looking to create an online portfolio go to
http://www.owenmailer.com
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nypeach
April 8th, 2009
2:54 pm
My boyfriend and I are talking about a beach wedding this fall. He loves Tybee Island. We both agree it has to be very small, informal, just us, his daughter and mine. Do we need witnesses, or can the justice of the peace bring his wife or something?
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K
April 8th, 2009
4:43 pm
The chldren are your witnesses.
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Kaye
April 9th, 2009
9:01 am
My husband I got married at Helton Creek Falls and the whole wedding party (and what a paerty it was!) took over Amicalola State Park just north of Dawsonville Ga. We rented out all the cabins and most of the lodge for a three day wedding party, had the ceramony IN the falls at Helton Creek and the reception at The Smith House in Dalonaga. Our friends have been back several times and still rave about the wonderful non pompous wedding…by the way…we live all the way in Tampa FL and had people come in from 5 states and as far away as Utah. It didn’t break the budget, heck, hardly touched the budget and was so very perfect and we couldn’t have asked for a better “destination” wedding!
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Often Disappointed/Never Surprised!
April 9th, 2009
11:18 am
It pains me to think about and relive my experience with clothing optional beaches. My experience in Cancun was quite alarming to say the least. Ironically, my particular resort was not clothing optional, however, the beach was not closed off. The nudies tended to wander down toward our end of the beach. Truly I believe that the body is a beautiful design, and when taken care of it is a pleasure to behold. Now back to reality. Ideal bodies are not always the case. But, to each his own. I just believe retirement communities and clothing optional beaches should not combine. At least that appeared to be the case. Or maybe they just offered discounts to seniors. (I know that not all seniors have given in to gravity, but largely it is the case!) I blame the magazines. Dammit Plaboy! You ruined it with your perfect bodies. Thanks a lot Hugh! (Smile)
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Mike
April 9th, 2009
11:23 am
No, but I painted the outside of my house in the nude once.
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owlafaye
April 9th, 2009
11:25 am
Nude people are rather a Ho Hum affair. Being nude with a large crowd is forgettable in about 20 minutes. We are increasingly getting over our Victorian prudishness and starting to get a grip on reality…this is good. Maybe the sin shouters will be over whelmed by large nude demonstrations and protests…this is VERY good. They control you through sex remember? Everybody does it, over and over so make it a sin…I am for reducing the clown quotient in America.
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Declan
April 9th, 2009
11:56 am
I have often wondered what it would be like. I have to agree with the above person who posted the fist comment. The human body is beautiful by design. I’m writing a story about a nude beach. Perhaps I should go, for information puposes.
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Steve
April 9th, 2009
12:12 pm
Delores – NO we dont want to know
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huckleberry
April 9th, 2009
12:18 pm
Lol, why is that here, is CEO of Delta is a nudist? Wouldn’t there be a risk of one of his employees spot him from the air, haha. Was the landing gear down or raised, lol. That is one of the most retarded letters I’ve ever seen. Well, in the last 48 hours, anyway. What is it with old people and the CAPS key, anyway? Maybe she should go to a nudist beach and chill out, she will feel better.
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Richard Anderson
April 9th, 2009
12:41 pm
Well Delores. I don’t know how you knew I would read this nudist article but you did. I guess that is what they mean by anticipating where the puck will go. Anyway, got your message and I will talk to the Delta website guys, all of my representatives and all of my customer service people and tell them to function properly. Sorry. Rich
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hollie
April 9th, 2009
12:54 pm
WE went to Hawaii for a wedding a few years ago…of course the couple was from the West Coast, and so was 90% of the guests. Surprisingly there were over 150 people there…it really was awesome and it was a great excuse to go visit the other side of the US!
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David S
April 9th, 2009
12:54 pm
Nude is the way god made us. Could it be that our problems with nudity, etc. are the source of so many of our sexual, interpersonal, and body image problems? No, must be something else.
Funny how we claim to be the freeest nation on earth (so far off at this point that even the claim should bring a smirk to your face) yet what you don’t, what you put into your body, what you do with your body, etc. are the least free things in our society.
Besides, if you run accross a guy hiking nude in the cold Alps, how much will there be visible to offend your sensibilities anyway.
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Storm
April 9th, 2009
12:55 pm
Why do people have a problem with the naked body. We all have one. People shield their kids from nudity, GASP, that person has a body, just like everyone else. Stupid. I walk around my house nekkid all the time. Freedom. I hate wearing clothes.
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David S
April 9th, 2009
1:00 pm
I think the reason Delta is included is because the TSA is so paranoid and so ineffective, we will all likely be forced to fly naked soon just to make sure we aren’t smuggling anything like a toothpick that could be used to blow up a plane.
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Steve
April 9th, 2009
1:33 pm
Delores is an idiot . . .
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Hugh Johnson
April 9th, 2009
1:40 pm
I love doing the whirly bird naked.
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Eric
April 9th, 2009
1:46 pm
I only take nude vacations. If I can’t go nude, I don’t go at all. And lucky for me, there are lots of available options. My favorites are Cape d Agde in France and Club Orient on St Maartin.
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Michael
April 9th, 2009
2:42 pm
I have no problem with nudity at all. In fact, I’m frequently nude inside and outside my home. People should get over their insecurities and accept that everyone had a body.
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ryan
April 9th, 2009
2:57 pm
Nudity is Ok (inside your home) in my book. Not because I’m prudish but as people have mentioned you have to take the good with the bad and you see a lot more bad then good.
I have to think the Dalores post is either a joke or a mean-spirited action because who really posts their personal information to the web?? I reported the comment simply because of the personal information (not to mention it had nothing to do with the article.) Hopefully it will be removed.
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JM
April 9th, 2009
3:03 pm
It’s the same old story — always, the ones that should cover up the most are the ones that think they’re the sexiest/most attractive. Jeff Foxworthy did a relevant routine about this subject. Most people aren’t that great-looking with their clothes ON; I sure don’t want to pay to see them jiggle and sag!
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Mary
April 9th, 2009
3:18 pm
Michael, what’s your last name?
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cj
April 9th, 2009
3:25 pm
Nude sexual deviants/perverts walking around flashing your children: this is why Handguns can never be outlawed.
I see this is another “I hate Christians” site…have fun, and enjoy your freedom exposing yourself…
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Storm
April 9th, 2009
3:29 pm
So cj, I guess every time you undress and shower, you are a Nude sexual deviant/pervert flashing your children. GASP!!! What will they think?
And what the hell does that have to do with handguns????? Should we shoot all the nekkid people?
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cj
April 9th, 2009
3:34 pm
storm…I don’t walk around naked around any children, do you? I so, you need to be arrested
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mattie
April 9th, 2009
3:54 pm
My husband and I have gone to Orient Beach in St. Martin for the past two years. We don’t stay at Club Orient, but we walk down to the nude beach to sun bathe. I like it, he loves it, and it’s great to keep the fires burning. The people who frequent the nude beaches and resorts are respectful of others, and there is no staring. That comes from the US tourists off the cruise ships. I’ve seen a father and his young teen sons repeatedly walk the nude beach, just to get an eyeful.
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Goober
April 9th, 2009
4:02 pm
Hikers on the Appalachian Trail have a week in the summer when they hike in the buff. I don’t remember which week, but my son hiked the Trail and honored the undress code along with most of the rest of them.
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ranjef
April 9th, 2009
4:05 pm
Those of you that prefer all your nudes to be in pristine shape evidently don’t “get it”. the Victorian attitude towards nudity that we have all been subjected to are only as archaic as the the idea that everybody needs to match a certain standard before they can take their clothes off. No, I am not 5′5″ and 5 feet tall. In fact, I am 6′ 3″ and an athletic build. But many of my friends at the clothing optional resort in which I reside full time are far from perfect in regards to their bodies – but if the body is all you care about, I doubt you can be more shallow without getting out of the pool completely.
Our community enjoys a vibrant and healthy social life. The friendships that I have formed here are as close as any I have ever had. The idea is not to compare bodies, but hearts.
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Goober
April 9th, 2009
4:18 pm
A lot of noses, ears, toes and men’s units aren’t all that great to look at. At least one of those is pretty much hidden most of the time.
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campnbare
April 9th, 2009
4:31 pm
Happy Happy Joey Joey Happy Happy Joey…. The season is upon us – let’s get in the mude (sic) to camp in the nude!
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Justmy2cents
April 9th, 2009
4:34 pm
I don’t take nude vacations, but one of the resorts I go to has a nude beach. It is completely separate from the clothing side as to not “offend” anyone and protects the nudies from gawkers. It is completely non-sexual and there is no swinging or swapping. It is relaxing to lay out in the sun and don’t have to worry about damp swimsuits, tan lines, etc. Everyone should try it at least once.
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Faith Dawson
April 9th, 2009
4:39 pm
I tried to find some info on Hike Naked Day 2009, and instead found this Web site: http://www.hikingnaked.com/. The regional page is broken down by state, and there are several naked hikers in Georgia.
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The Soldier
April 9th, 2009
4:49 pm
My favorite battlefield in Ga. is Chicamauga. Its the only one where you can actually get a feel for the battle. The rest are really in bad shape. Its a travesty…
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MOT
April 9th, 2009
5:06 pm
As noted, we were born nude. I imagine that we did run around nude for a time back “in the beginning, and I imagine that the daily scrapes, bruising,etc, as well as things dangling and jiggling called for an invention to cover things up. Back then folks probably saw it as perverted to cover up and use the “new fangled invention” called clothes, just as folks see nudity as perverted. It is all a cycle. Who knows, maybe one day we will be back to total nudity only to realize/remember how much more comfortable it was to keep from getting scraped, caught, pinched, burned, frostbit, etc.
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Nature Boy
April 9th, 2009
6:07 pm
Its NUDE, not LEWD ! Few people have perfect bodies. Thats what you will encounter at a nudist resort, any of the 3 or 4 in North Georgia. Nudity breaks down social barriers. You can’t tell a banker from a bus driver. You won’t find staring when everyone is nude! Nothing better than jumping in the pool or hot tub, and having the sun’s rays dry you off. Its the least sexually charged place you will experience.
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Zedd
April 9th, 2009
6:18 pm
cj is obviously off his/her meds. Handguns???
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cj
April 9th, 2009
6:35 pm
zedd,
yes, handguns to protect you from sexual deviants who get off on exposing themselves to your children.
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kwazzi
April 9th, 2009
7:47 pm
i am reading this article in the nude
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J-Tex
April 9th, 2009
7:58 pm
I always enjoy it when the slightest hint of criticism causes someone to accuse someone else of being a “Christian hater”, yet when some fundamentalist ultra-conservative type Christian stands up and demands that books they don’t like be removed from all libraries, they are just “defending their faith”.
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cj
April 9th, 2009
8:01 pm
JTEX—get used to it…it’s called freedom of speech, which you obviously believe that you and your nudy left-wing buddies hold the monopoly on…I’ll gladly take the hit as a “fundamentalist ultra-conservative type” on behalf of the rest of those who are clothed and in their right mind…
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Rob
April 9th, 2009
10:12 pm
Americans are so Prudish!
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Cool Hand Luke
April 9th, 2009
11:53 pm
I remember when I first joined the Army & saw my first uncircumcised man. I remember it looked like an anteater with goiters. I was deeply saddened because I knew then that he would never know love. I don’t wish to see this on the beach anymore than I would wish to see a dead catfish.
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Steve
April 10th, 2009
12:30 am
cj is an idiot . . .
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paula
April 10th, 2009
4:48 am
My husband I got married at Helton Creek Falls and the whole wedding party (and what a paerty it was!) took over Amicalola State Park just north of Dawsonville Ga.This is really a wonderful place.Log on kissBBW.c o m.and you ;ll know more about it.There are many big beautiful women ,hot and sexy,waiting for you.
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Nude Not Prude
April 10th, 2009
6:46 am
Going nude is wonderful. I do it at home and at nudist camps and beaches. The freedom is wonderful. And when you’re surrounded by others who are nude, you get that feeling that we truly are all the same. The class “barriers” are broken. Frankly, those who’ve never gone to nude beaches or camps should try it at least once before they criticize anyone. Sure there are jerks who will come to stare or do something stupid, but that’s when you alert management or police. Oh-many beaches have lifeguard/police patrols and camps and other resorts often have their own security. We do need to get over our negative attitudes about nudity.
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Storm
April 10th, 2009
8:38 am
cj – I walk around naked in front of my kids……got a problem with that? Too bad……my house, my rules. sorry you are such a prude. you probably shower with clothes on……
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Conservative nudists
April 10th, 2009
10:22 am
CJ, I am part owner of a small nudist property in central Florida, I am as conservative as most people you know.
The majority of members at my club are conservatives!
I have a family, and yes my children are nudists too, I go to church, I believe in GOD, I tithe, I pay my taxes and probably a large portion of yours… On my more liberal side, I believe abortions are bad, but I don’t think they should be outlawed, that is between a woman and her maker, I don’t care if a gay couple gets married or has a civil union, whatever you call it… and, I am a nudist!
There are no sex shows going on at a nudist resort, there are no public stripper poles, there are no lap dances, it is NOT about perversion, it is about freedom and enjoying yourself.
Loosen up.
Nudity by itself should not be offensive. However, overt sexual behavior in a public place is not a good idea!
It is also hard to understand the tone of the original article, the writer seems surprised that there are actually nudist resorts in GA “and some EVEN allow the entire family.”
Children who are raised to not be offended by the human body make great physicians and scientists, they have not been taught shame. Shame is not a productive trait, go back and watch “Oh God” with George Burns.
Nudist resorts and nudist activities are everywhere! Seek and you shall find one near you. If you run across naked hikers in the future, and it bothers you, look them in the eye, not below the belt, it may be your son or daughter!
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Faith Dawson
April 10th, 2009
10:36 am
Conservative nudists: You’re right, my statement on camps/parks that allow entire families is not objective. Thanks for taking the time to write.
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lakewoodlouie
April 10th, 2009
10:56 am
I’ve been a nudist and have been going to Paradise Valley (formally Hidden Valley)for 16 years. Anyone that hasn’t been there (or to any nudist resort) can’t possibly know enough to even make a comment. Before I went , I could count the close friendships I had on one hand. The close friendships I have now are more than I could have ever imagined. Visiting a nudist resort is nothing like a lot of the post here seem to think it is. It is definitely not about sex, it’s about freedom.You meet people as they really are without all of the preconcieved judgements clothing creates. When you are nude you don’t know if the person next to you is the CEO of a national company,a doctor (I’ve met several)a Lawyer (we do forgive them for that)a celebrity (yes met some too) or just an average person like myself.
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Carol
April 10th, 2009
12:00 pm
I’ve attended a couple beach weddings in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Beautiful location! The whitesand beaches make it an ideal setting for a wedding.
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Maude
April 10th, 2009
2:48 pm
My husband and I are both members of the American Association for Nude Recreation (AANR), and we take at least one Nakation (nude vacation) per year. Our five children always go with us. All of the resorts we have visited have been family-friendly and wonderful. Before you knock the nudists, visit http://www.aanr.com and read more about it. You will wish you had become a nudist sooner.
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Willy Jack
April 10th, 2009
3:19 pm
Nude vacations are the most inexpensive way to travel. I recommend it to everyone. My favorite resorts are Abbott’s Glen in Vermont and Cypress Cove in Florida.
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campnbare
April 10th, 2009
3:32 pm
Being German and being familiar with the German lifestyle, I have no problems with nudity. For instance, in Germany whole families go to the bath houses where one would enjoy the bath right next to grandma and uncle and cousins and siblings. American people definitely would have a problem with that, but, as for not throwing the baby out with the bath water…. at least one can enjoy the accommodations available to them to be “in” with nature, among other like-minded adults, free of all societies stigmas. But it sure would be nice to not have these resorts overrun by a slew of people with naked body complex or to bring with them their puritan attitudes. Maybe all newbies should start out on the “beginner slope” !!
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campnbare
April 10th, 2009
3:50 pm
Cool Hand Luke…. lol ! Catfish are not likely to show up on the beach unless your “beach” might be a swampy lake down a dirt road and if that’s the case watch out for those campgrounds with low hanging fruit they are everywhere!!! As far as the natural male appendage, being skinned is not the beauty God designed men with. All men that are natural in that way would rarely want to be cut, but, alot of men that have been peeled would give anything to undo the damage. Granted there are a few oddities of nature but for the most part most uncut men have tools that are, well, run of the mill. If you went campin’ with me you would likely get over your penis envy! But as for the type of beaches, you may see a dead catfish or even a carp or a beer can.
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David
April 10th, 2009
5:09 pm
I have done it many times and have enjoyed it thoroughly. Consider the phrase it is hard to be a snob when you are naked. You get to know people based on who they are not whether they are waiting the latest thing from Anne Kelin or Armani. Besides, after awhile, you don’t think about people are naked or not. It would be like going to a party where everybody is wearing red and you alone are wearing green. It also is about as comfortable as you can get. Just remember one thing-remember if you desire to be weird sexually nude places really are not where you want to be. People don’t put up with crap like that.
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Dana
April 13th, 2009
3:19 pm
Absolutely. I have no family there, but would love to go!
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Ross
April 13th, 2009
3:22 pm
Yes, I would love visit Cuab and I am thrilled that The Obama Administration is easing restrictions.
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SCOTT
April 13th, 2009
3:26 pm
Yes, I would love to visit Cuban
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Shannon
April 13th, 2009
3:27 pm
Are you serious?!? Let’s just invite all of the communists and socialists to come into our country in take over … oh wait … we just did by electing Obama into office!
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Julie
April 13th, 2009
3:33 pm
Serious! I would go! How many people travel to communist China?
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Tomhere
April 13th, 2009
3:34 pm
Yes, my wife and I would love to go there. It’s probably one of the few places in the world that hasn’t been infected by McDonalds, Disney, and the other “garbage” that passes for American “culture”.
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PMC
April 13th, 2009
3:39 pm
absolutely, I’ve always wanted to go to Cuba.
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PMC
April 13th, 2009
3:39 pm
great food, cigars, and rum.
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Judith
April 13th, 2009
3:39 pm
Absolutely, I would be fascinated to be able to go to Cuba and see for myself what conditions there are. It has always seems odd to me that I can travel to Korea or China or Iran or Afghanistan, none notable democracies, but I cannot go to Cuba. Especially because one of our complaints about Castro is he will not let his citizens travel freely.
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Robertomiguelpatriciosalvadorpena
April 13th, 2009
3:43 pm
Would love to go. But, I am curious about a comparison in the article that says the city of Detroit has as many hotel rooms as the entire country of Cuba. I can’t believe it! You mean to tell me that people actually go to Detroit?
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Robertomiguelpatricio
April 13th, 2009
3:48 pm
Si.
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Faith Dawson
April 13th, 2009
3:52 pm
I myself would like to hear Son music firsthand. And the architecture looks beautiful, too.
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Wanda
April 13th, 2009
3:55 pm
Shannon…The Question is…Are YOU Serious? This is just the outdated thinking that has gotten this Country into the state it is in Now. Thanks to the decision making of a Conservative, outdated, ill-informed, C-Student President (Bush). Wow!! Have you had your head Stuck in the Sand? We now have an informed, ultra Modern, Intelligent and Academic President, who makes hard decisions by being fully informed. Hey…Don’t knock Socialism just yet…at lease in a socialist State you don’t have to pay for education and medical coverage….from where I’m sitting, that just keeps looking better and better by the Day.
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Charles Michael
April 13th, 2009
3:57 pm
Parents went to Cuba on their honeymoon in 1947. I have a lot fo souveneirs from their trip and would love to visit!
As for that jackass “Shannon”….who the heck is inviting anyone to take over our country? What a jerk!
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Kermit
April 13th, 2009
3:58 pm
Shut up, Wanda – the short bus is waiting to take you back to the home.
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Wanda
April 13th, 2009
4:01 pm
Kermit…. I bet you’re married to Shannon…What’s the Saying? Bird of a Feather….You finish the rest.
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Jose
April 13th, 2009
4:05 pm
NO, US representatives that have visited Cuba recently have not visited any of the thousands of the political prisoners on the island. They are ignoring the fact that the current government has no intentions of allowing any form of free speech or free communication. We will only be injecting US cash into the pockets of a 50 year old dictatorship that has no vested interest on the human rights of it’s population.
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Kevin
April 13th, 2009
4:20 pm
Wanda, you say: “at lease (sic) in a socialist State you don’t have to pay for education and medical coverage.”
Are you kidding me? Do you think education and healthcare just fall out of the sky? Taxpayers pay for those services through significantly higher. It’s your kind of “government = no price” thinking that will bankrupt this country. Your ignorance is insulting.
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Mytilda
April 13th, 2009
4:22 pm
Great comment, Kevin.
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JustHappy
April 13th, 2009
4:40 pm
YES, I would love to visit Cuba. I understand they have excellent Doctors.
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Dem Dems!
April 13th, 2009
8:30 pm
Democrats never met a Communist they didn’t like. Nevermind this country is guilty of human rights violations and oppression of its people. Who cares? Certainly not the Democratic Black Caucus who recently visited, hobnobbing with Castro himself while demeaning their home country, the United States. Disgusting. Do us a favor, next time make it a ONE-WAY ticket.
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Edward A. Lipsett
April 13th, 2009
9:24 pm
Having lived and worked there (I am Canadian) I find the place endlessly interesting and not at all as the American press propagandises.
yes the economy is inefficent in many areas but for a Latin country pretty good.
And I hate to drag this up, but if one is poor and sick, best to be a Cuban than an American.
I learned many lessons there and on was to note that the American press can uniformly trash a country with out regard to the facts. And yes there are lots of Americans there defying there own Govts. wishes.
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Mickey
April 14th, 2009
8:49 am
I can’t wait to go. I’ve been wanting to visit for years. I hope that all restrictions are lifted. If we can visit and trade with the Soviet Union and China, why not Cuba? Oh, I forgot. Black people live in Cuba!
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KJ
April 14th, 2009
9:16 pm
Hasn’t anyone heard the old saying about keeping your friends close and enemies closer? What people fail to realize is that after time almost all communist regimes have fallen once the western influences have traveled through and discovered what was really going on inside those countries, socially, emotionally and politically. I think that U.S. travelers being allowed inside Cuba will help way more than allowing Cuba to fester without exposure to the mainstream U.S.
I’ll go. I’d like to be as educated as I can be about the country, and see people’s reactions, listen to stories, and try to understand what is really going on within Cuba, as opposed to relying on what our government (or anyone else’s) wants me to think about it.
Don’t you think that the people of Cuba would have things a little easier over time, since their government will have to be a little more careful in how they treat their citizens when plenty of U.S. eyes and ears are there?
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al
April 15th, 2009
5:05 pm
We’ve been saving by staying in state for our vacations. Using sites like the ajc and exploregeorgia.org to find travel deals and look for those “undiscovered gems” that make for great weekend getaways.
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Justmy2cents
April 15th, 2009
6:24 pm
We’re lucky that our lifestyle has not been affected by the economy. It has actually helped us! Thanks to slow sales, the resort we are going to in September offered a deal and we were able to upgrade to the penthouse suite for only 100 bucks more for the week! We are also already booked for spring break 2010- and the kids travel free!! Good times!
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just me
April 16th, 2009
8:49 am
We are renting a condo at the beach but we are eating in instead of out while we are there. Also, we will not spend money on any shopping trips while we are there.
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clyde
April 16th, 2009
10:01 am
There will be no traveling this year.Vacations will be soent at home.
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Gunter Sharp
April 16th, 2009
10:18 am
Yes, it’s only fair. If an overweight passenger prevents the person in the adjacent seat from being able to comfortably use that seat, then the overweight person is taking away from what the other passenger paid for.
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Drew
April 16th, 2009
10:22 am
I think it’s fair, yes. I agree that if I could help the obese passenger by moving MY seat, I would but frankly I haven’t been on many flights where there were numerous seats available where I could exercise that option. We pay to have a seat on a plane. We basically rent the seat and the space for the duration of the flight. If the fat rolls on a particular person are so large that they interfere with my comfort and safety, then they should absolutely be required to buy a bigger seat.
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Willie G
April 16th, 2009
10:30 am
YES charge the MORE.
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Paige
April 16th, 2009
10:38 am
I don’t mind being squished against the window or shoved into the aisle a bit by an overweight passenger. To be fair, that’s happened to me only three times in many, many flights. It’s the screaming kids (on almost every flight) that drive me up the wall.
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Stephen J
April 16th, 2009
10:40 am
As it should be! I only hope Delta follows suit. As a frequent Delta flyer I have endured too many uncomforatable flights when the person sitting beside me spilled over in to my seat (sweat and all). If you require the space of two seats, you should pay for two seats.
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wannabe
April 16th, 2009
10:47 am
I agree, they should pay more. We all pay for/rent a seat and expect reasonable comfort. I don’t expect not to rub shoulders/arms occasionaly, but no way should anyone be subjected to someone elses gurth literally laying on you for a flight. It is also unsafe if anything were to happen on the flight and it just isn’t right. It should be handled in a way to preserve there dignity as much as possible but it is what it is. You have to pay extra for oversized luggage that sits next to luggage for pete’s sake, absolutely a person that ways considerably more, takes up the space of two or more people should be expected to pay up.
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YANCYVB
April 16th, 2009
10:56 am
wannabe
It’s their and weighs.
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TC
April 16th, 2009
10:59 am
So you going to ask the NFL players to pay twice as much when they travel?
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Holy Macaroni
April 16th, 2009
11:07 am
Yes – without a question. If you take up 2 seats, you pay for 2 seats.
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RealityKing
April 16th, 2009
11:21 am
You people have it all wrong! Do as the government does..
Borrow money for your vacation! Twice as much as you need!! Have a blast and let your children worry about paying it back. That is the progressive thing to do. And after all…, the same thing Congress is doing to America.
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iamKathi
April 16th, 2009
11:27 am
As a frequent flyer and a larger person I was on the side of I pay for my ticket and I fit in the seat so leave me alone. But, on a recent flight from LAX I had an empty seat next to me and hoped it remained so. But… I saw him coming down the aisle, the biggest man I have ever seen on a plane and I just knew he was coming to sit on/by me. I fit in my seat and I can fasten the seat belt but he couldn’t. He was by the window and took up his seat and half of mine. He had his own seat belt extender. the arm rest wouldn’t go down. He should have paid for 2 seats.
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wannabe
April 16th, 2009
11:28 am
YANCYVB – I know, there just isn’t a way to edit your post after submission. Don’t you have anything better to do? lol
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Peadawg
April 16th, 2009
11:29 am
We went to Disney and stayed at a Holiday Inn by Universal Studios, instead of one of the expensive Disney hotels in the parks.
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Steve
April 16th, 2009
11:32 am
What bothers more is women being able to carry a fairly large infant on board and sit with the child on “her lap”. Couple that with a fat woman and it is miserable. Fat and with child should equal purchasing an extra seat.
Chatty old smelly people bother me too.
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YANCYVB
April 16th, 2009
11:33 am
No, I am bored to death today. LOL!!!
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Tom Davis
April 16th, 2009
11:46 am
Go to Mexico where it is Cheap. The added benefit is that you may be beheaded so you won’t have to worry about money.
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Shaye
April 16th, 2009
12:15 pm
Absolutely–if you don’t fit in one seat, you should pay for two. That said, perhaps airlines should start installing a couple of seats that are a bit wider (maybe 1.5 times normal size). I’m not a very large person, but I flew internationally with my ex who’s 6′4″ and about 260. He fit in his seat just fine (though his poor legs were cramped). besides, if you really weigh *that* much, you’re sucking up more gas. Fair’s fair.
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GOFORIT
April 16th, 2009
12:19 pm
I think this is the best rule the airline came up with and I think all airlines should follow. I went to LA this past summer from Atlanta and had a large man sitting in the middle. I was at the window and another flyer was in the aisle seat. The flight attendent didn’t give him 1 extended seat belt but 3 total. I cant sit here with my knees bent towards window. I told her I will get off the plane and take another flight before I sit here this long. Me and her went back and forth with the problem until I told her if I need you to give me 1/2 of my ticket price back because I paid for a seat ,but yet I am sitting in half of my seat and the other half is being shared by this man next to me. Finally they found me another seat and I couldn’t been happier.
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AL G
April 16th, 2009
12:22 pm
Airlines are not buffets, but rather more akin to traditional restaurants where you pay for what you eat. You should absolutely pay for the space you occupy. Either pay for 2 seats or buy a 1st class ticket. It isn’t my responsibility to accommodate your irresponsibility at the dinner table by tolerating your amorphic, gelatinous rolls in my lap, on my leg, etc. Consider this: If we are neighbors, both paying rent or owning our homes, would you tolerate my piling up my belongings in your living room because I can’t fit them in my house?
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Mel
April 16th, 2009
12:40 pm
Here’s a concept: stop shoving people in like cattle, and give them 2″ extra inches of seat space in coach. Make *everybody* more comfortable, and save overweight people embarassment.
If you aren’t fat, then you do not know how embarassing it is, nor how incredibly uncomfortable, to do all you can to squish into a seat and not impinge on your neighbor’s space. And what about people who can’t afford business seats? Callously tell them not to fly?
Not all fat people are the same size nor dimensions. I carry my weight in my thighs/hips, which means I need an extender and I can fit into a single seat, although painfully so. (I do buy upgrades when I can afford them.) There are also plenty of fat people who have skinny legs, have no problem fitting in their seats from the waist down, but are huge up top, and spill into your seat from that direction.
The fact is that at least 60% of the American population is overweight. But public transportation doesn’t reflect that nor give sway for changes in pysiology over the past 50 years. I have more room on my bus ride home than I do on an airplane!
I want a refund for every skinny person who has sat next to me stinking to high heaven because they apparently have no clue how to shower; or has drowned themselves in cologne; or has a baby that screams and cries half the flight; or yacks my ear off; or snores like a truck.
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JESS
April 16th, 2009
12:43 pm
AIRLINES SHOULD REVERT TO THE WIDER SEATS OF THE ’50s AND STOP SCREWING THE FLYING PUBLIC. SQUEEZING PASSENGERS INTO SEATS ONLY LARGE ENOUGH FOR A 3 YEAR OLD TO SIT IN COMFORTABLY IS NOT ONLY CRUEL , IT’S DOWNRIGHT GREEDY.
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Nee
April 16th, 2009
12:52 pm
why draw the line at the size of a person? I had to spend 75% of a 9 hour flight next to a thin person who snored like a buzz saw and drooled on top of that. A breath mint might have been nice as well. It was so loud I couldn’t rest comfortably. I was also afraid something was going to fly out his mouth and hit me. Did I have a pleasant flight? NO! I would have rather had someone with good oral hygiene who spilled over a little in to my seat.
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Jack P
April 16th, 2009
12:54 pm
It’s really quite simple and elementary: the bigger the load the more you pay. Even the fatties ought to understand that.
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Grace DeVita
April 16th, 2009
1:06 pm
Yes, I not only think it’s fair, but it’s about time. I’m not overweight, but I’m not small, and I have had to sit next to too many people that take up what little space I’ve paid for.
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Storm
April 16th, 2009
1:13 pm
Quit flying!!!! Problem solved.
Man you people are some whiners!!!! Want some cheese with that whine???
It’s not fair…….I had to sit next to blah blah blah….
Should you charge fat people extra at a buffet? Should there be a scale at the door? If you weigh over 250, you pay twice as much. But if you weight under 250, you get regular pricing? I’m a light eater, but a friend of mine can eat two pizzas in one sitting, but he only weights 210, and is over 6 feet tall. Should he be charged more at the buffet cuz he eats more than I do?
When does it end? How do you make EVERYONE happy?????
Should grocery stores charge for fat people in the aisles that you can’t get around. They are occupying space……
Should playgrounds be made larger for fat kids? Wider slides?
Should auto makers charge more for a larger vehicle for fat people?
I mean come on? Can’t we all just get along?
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LaCinda
April 16th, 2009
1:20 pm
Airlines should widen the seats or remove a few rows of seats to give passengers extra room. Obesity has been proven to be a disease. This disease should not prevent a paying passenger from traveling without added fees.
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AL G
April 16th, 2009
1:20 pm
Just because you can’t push away from the buffet doesn’t mean you deserve to be accommodated!
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darryl
April 16th, 2009
1:33 pm
Paige, i agree, control the kids…..
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ajcReader
April 16th, 2009
1:48 pm
If airline seat designers can design First-Class seats that fold into complete beds, then they should be able to design a seat that could adjustably accommodate multiple sizes.
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Greg
April 16th, 2009
2:00 pm
My dislike is when a large person raises the armrest without asking so that they can have half of my seat. My preference would be to require for the passenger to be required to pay for first class with the larger seats or to pay for two seats in coach.
By the way what happens on ASA where the seats are really small and the bathrooms are probably inaccessible for some of the passengers described in earler posts.
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Melissa
April 16th, 2009
2:03 pm
Yes and No, Yes because it is uncomfortable for the person sitting next to them, and No because it is discrimination. Make planes with larger seats to accommodate overweight passengers. Should the movie theater charge an overweight person for two seats at the theater because the same thing happens there. Also if obesity is on the rise, then maybe these places should make changes to coincide with the rise in obesity.
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wannabe
April 16th, 2009
2:07 pm
All obesity is not caused by a disease/medication. Some need to except that they just like to overeat period. Storm, your analogies are all over the place and don’t negate the arguments presented here.
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Melissa
April 16th, 2009
2:09 pm
Wannabe you are right not all obesity is caused by disease or meds.
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Melissa
April 16th, 2009
2:10 pm
Basically if you have to lose another person to get to your target weight for your height, then you should pay for two seats.
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LA
April 16th, 2009
2:15 pm
It is certainly a problem with the overall amount of space given to begin with, I am a size XS to S with womanly hips and some airline seats are snug for me in the hip area. BUT, there is a BIG problem with obesity in this country and most of it is not a disease (although maybe psychological) so somethings need to be done. Paige and Darryl, I couldn’t agree more… on a flight there is NOTHING worse to me than screaming children which seems to happen on almost every single flight now and that is much more disruptive than a large person taking some of your space. Make parents pay extra whose kids disrupt the ENTIRE plane and not just the person sitting next to them!
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stevie
April 16th, 2009
2:25 pm
Whether or not they are required to purchase two seats you should just do what I do. Just refust to raise the armrest. If they can fit on thier side then no problem…if not they have a problem because that armrest is not going anywhere tubby.
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Mark H.
April 16th, 2009
2:42 pm
If there aren’t two adjacent seats available and the “large” person pays extra because they don’t fit in their seat, should the person in the seat where the “fat” hangs over be given compensation? Why do I pay full price when part of my seat is occuppied by a “wide body”? Yes, charge them more, but be fair to the person who is not given an option to give up part of their seat.
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Amelia
April 16th, 2009
2:47 pm
60% of Americans are fat. Does that mean the other 40% has to suffer??? Should I be punished because I exercise and follow a low carbohydrate diet?
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OAL
April 16th, 2009
2:53 pm
Absolutely obese people should be charged for additional space. Airlines DO offer wider seats and that’s in FIRST CLASS!! If you don’t want to pay for the wider seat, then buy TWO in coach so that you don’t infringe upon other paying customers. I’ve actually had to remove someone from a flight because they took up two seats. And NO you don’t get compensation for being removed either because you KNOW you should have paid for two seats. Boeing, Airbus, McDonnell-Douglas, etc… aren’t making the coach any wider. Just make your butt SMALLER!
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Greg
April 16th, 2009
2:53 pm
Stevie, its even better when you have the seats usually bulkhead or exit aisles that have fixed armrests. I saw an instance where the passenger would not fit in to one of those seats and he was moved next to a very unhappy new seat mate. Full planes on Friday are a pain
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Amelia
April 16th, 2009
3:05 pm
Furthermore, when I buy a ticket I am paying for my whole seat, not just 50% of it.
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SayWhat
April 16th, 2009
3:06 pm
Wow. I’ve always been overweight, and thank God I’ve never met any of you self-centered fat people haters! I require a seat belt extender, but do not “spill over” into the next seat and keep the armrest down. So I should pay for an extra seat because I need a seat belt extender? P.S. If you’ve never had a weight problem you don’t have a clue. If I thought I could get rid of the weight by using a carving knife (with or without anesthesia) I’d start cutting. All of us don’t eat whole boxes of Twinkies and cartons of ice cream. Yes, I overeat – but I’ve seen plenty of skinny people eat more at the buffet than I do. It’s like the t-shirts say “I might be fat, but you’re ugly…and I can always lose weight.” Feel free to subsitute “rude,” “conceited,” “self-centered,” etc. for the word “ugly.”
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Jerry
April 16th, 2009
3:10 pm
Obese people should have to pay. Flying is a pain anyway, even when you aren’t sitting next to goliath. If I have to be inconvienced by a extra large person while flying, there is no reason they shouldn’t be inconvienced by paying more or upgrading to first class.
When the cost of being obese starts to burden the obese, they may start doing something about it. With our medicare, medicaid, and welfare; most obese people aren’t having to pay a thing in health coverage for being so fat. I think a “fat tax” on fatty’s on airplanes is a move in the right direction!
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Dewey
April 16th, 2009
3:17 pm
I was on a flight Minneapolis to Palm Springs on a single aisle plane and had the window seat. In the middle seat next to me was a wide passenger that made me lean against the window if I didn’t want to rub against him. But the real danger wasn’t him but the well dressed man on the aisle who was sooo obese that he forcibly wedged himself into the seat so that the armrest were so tight they acted as his seat belt. He did not ask for a seat belt extension and could not use a seatbelt any way during take off or landing. It was obvious that he always flew this way. Although I needed to go to the bathroom during the flight I had to contain myself because I was trapped. The worst was if there were an air emergency and we had to evacuate the plane, I could not get out quickly and would have died. This is not just a matter of an personal rights but the safty of other passengers. When a musician travels with his cello, he buys an extra seat and the cello always has the window seat and the muscian the middle seat. Obese passengers should not be given the aisle seat trapping his or her seatmates.
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Passenger
April 16th, 2009
3:17 pm
If I have to pay for more than 50 lbs of luggage then they should be made to pay for more person. More weight means more fuel.
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wannabe
April 16th, 2009
3:22 pm
SayWhat – Sure, some posted comments are rude and call names, but I sure hope you don’t believe that everyone who feels encroached upon by a large person and agrees with this airline policy is somehow a “fat people hater?” that’s just shortsighted and silly. It’s like having a neighbor that plays music as if he is at an outdoor concert at 2am, are you a jerk or a “hater” for calling the cops? for making an HOA rule about not making everyone have to listen to your music at 2am? Come on. You can agree with this policy and not be guilty of discrimination, its just physics, common courtesy, and common sense. IMHO
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Jerry
April 16th, 2009
3:22 pm
“I might be fat, but you’re ugly…and I can always lose weight.” Feel free to subsitute “rude,” “conceited,” “self-centered,” etc. for the word “ugly.”
SayWhat…then do like the t shirt says, and lose weight! This isn’t an issue of respect and decency, its one of comfort and saftey!
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LA
April 16th, 2009
3:30 pm
SayWhat, it does not seem to me that people on here are “fat people haters” I think this has just become a problem that isn’t quite fair. Also, the obesity rates in this country are so startling that foreigners can spot an American coming from a mile away b/c fat is associated with Americans. Being made to pay extra for a ticket is embarrassing and might actually be a motivator for some obese people to make a change.
I do know what it is like as I used to weigh 215 pounds at a height of 5 foot 4 inches and the embarrassment I felt was the motivator for me to do something about it. Was it easy…no! Was it possible and took determination and personal choice…yes! 7 years later and I was 128 pounds (by exercise and eating well) which is where I have been ever since. Most people have the choice, it is just whether or not you choose to act on it! If you choose not to, why should other people suffer?
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Passenger II
April 16th, 2009
3:33 pm
I say yes to larger passengers paying extra only if “FUNKY” passengers are not allowed on until they shower. I will take a fat arm in my space over holding my breath for four plus hours any day.
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Lou H
April 16th, 2009
4:02 pm
Yes!
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Braves#1
April 16th, 2009
4:05 pm
Why dont the airlines put a few wider seats in the plane? Everyone deserves to fly and be treated the same. This discrimination bull is really getting on my last nerve. Black, white, mexican (legals that is) fat, skinny, young, old, babies, toddlers. Lighten up people. We all have feelings and we all all created equal. Just some of you think your better then others. By the way im white, 5′6″ and weight 135 so im not fat and sticking up for fat people. Im a christian sticking up for GODS people.
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Stan
April 16th, 2009
4:18 pm
I have a t-shirt that says “I beat anorexia!” and yes people too large to fit in one seat should have to pay either for an upgrade or for 2 or more seats.
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Mr Tall
April 16th, 2009
4:22 pm
I’m 6′7″, and am what the industry calls Large and Tall, not big and tall, as I was told by a very robust man in a big and tall store once. If I pay a little more can I have the seat in front of me moved a couple of inches forward? How about charging Mr Five Foot tall more for sitting in the emergency row, just because they like to stretch out more?
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momtoAlex&Max
April 16th, 2009
4:34 pm
Say What: just because I don’t want to give up half my seat THAT I PAID FOR, doesn’t make me a fat hater.
Obesity MIGHT be a disease, but I really doubt that 60% of Americans are truly sick.
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Hmm
April 16th, 2009
4:35 pm
Thank you Braves #1. I think people with screaming babies should have to pay extra. If they start charging over-weight people more, then I sense a lawsuit coming. That is just like making a black person or mexican or whatever color you are pay more because or their color. Are we really going to revert back to major disrespect and discrimination? I am 5′2 and 140 NOT overweight, but I have friends that are overweight and know how embarrasing it can be to not be able to buckle your seatbelt or ride rides at an amusement park. Overweight people don’t enjoy it….I say we extend the seatbelts to accomodate the overweight and when the obnoxiously skinny people go flying out the window Oh well they should have paid extra for a smaller seat belt to hold them in.
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Steve from Norcross
April 16th, 2009
5:47 pm
YES!!!!!! Oversize people should pay for the space they consume and not infringe on the space paid for by fellow travelers!
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Slim Pickens
April 16th, 2009
5:50 pm
Fatty fat fat fat fat
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john
April 16th, 2009
6:01 pm
Have people walk through a corridor the width of a seat, similar to the size gauge that is used for carry on luggage. If the person does not fit then tell them they are going to have to “super size” their seating accommodations at the ticket counter.
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Eric
April 16th, 2009
6:41 pm
Public transportation (which airlines are NOT) should not be forced to change to a new American “Physiology”, rather, the 60% of America that is fat or obese, should get back down to a normal, healthy weight. No thyroids, no emotional eating, no stress, no genes, no excuses. You’re born with blue eyes or red hair, not 80lbs overweight. This would have so many benefits! Reduced health care costs. Reduced energy consumption. Um, reduced food consumption leading to lower costs!
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yve
April 16th, 2009
7:36 pm
Regardless to whether you’re obese from overeating or from a disease the results are the same. If you require the extra space you should pay the extra cost. Maybe it’s not twice the fare because that may become cost prohibitive for many. If this is implemented, I hope it’s done in a way that does not humiilate or embarass the traveler. I would rather suffer a little discomfort rather than cause someone to feel that emotional pain.
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Redd
April 16th, 2009
7:40 pm
It is bothersome to have your seat invaded on a plane by someone else but I think charging double is unfair and the airlines should make provisions for special passengers; accommodations for larger beings and mothers with babies. These seats could be placed throughout the aircraft. It’s the most respectable way to handle this issue.
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catlady
April 16th, 2009
7:53 pm
I am large but can fit. I am also in favor of charging for additional space. The passenger should have the option to upgrade for a special seat with more room, or buy an extra seat. There needs to be an option available other than first class. I have seen a few people who cannot get down the aisle and I think, “How on earth are they going to fit?”
I have literally been choked for hours (due to allergy/asthma) from folks bathing in scent. Something should also be done about that. Subtle, folks, goes a long way.
And I know virtually no one who would not agree that a noisy child/baby area should be available to protect the other passengers from too much noise. If an airline advertised itself as small child free, I am SURE many travelers would pay the premium to sign on. I am not a child hater, but you have to realize that not everyone enjoys your child and sympathizes with your child’s travel adjustment problems. I have traveled near many parents who had the traveling with a kid thing figured out, and many more who were oblivious or overwhelmed.
I guess we should keep dreaming.
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Peg
April 16th, 2009
8:37 pm
If you have ever tried to fly with the overlapping folds of a weight-impaired passenger overlapping onto the arm rest, your leg, your arm, shoulder, torso, you would not have to ask. I pay to use my entire seat space – from floor to overhead. If a passenger cannot fit in a coach seat, require them to pay for a seat they CAN fit into. The last time I was squished between an enormous passenger and the side of the plane, I made up my mind to always reserve an aisle seat when booking my flight.
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Gator Actual
April 16th, 2009
9:03 pm
For all of the people who think that fat people (sorry for not being politically correct) should pay extra, they have never had to sit next to one. I think what they should do is make the fat people sit next to the squirming, crying, screaming babies!
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Redd
April 16th, 2009
9:19 pm
People of the world are so mean . . . some of your comments are horrific and uncalled for –you can express yourselves just as well without out being so obnoxious. Let’s face it, most plane flights are usually a big hassle, unless you fly on a private vessel but to constantly put down larger people as I’ve seen done on this blog is just mean. I bet many of you have children that are bullies.
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Just wondering
April 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Just wondering what would happen if you substituted the words “black” or “Jewish” for the words “fat” or “obese” in any of these blogs. Prejudice against overweight people is the only bigotry that remains acceptable in our society.
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Charlie
April 16th, 2009
10:20 pm
First, add to the base price of a ticket the combined weight of pax and luggage, and that is a collectible surcharge at boarding, billed automatically to the method of payment for the original ticket.
Second, if the collectible surcharge is over a certain amount, the pax is assessed and given 2 seats if it is not the luggage that passed the threshold, with no additional payment other than the surcharge that everyone of us would pay.
However, don’t hold your breath waiting for the airlines to do anything until forced by congress. They don’t think like that.
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David
April 16th, 2009
10:36 pm
The base ticket is for everyone to “rent” an equal amount of square inches. If someone need more than they rent, they need to pay more for another “plot”
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Rob
April 16th, 2009
10:39 pm
Americans are just fat. So American airlines should have bigger seats. Or fly 747s everywhere!
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Suefchuhcruff
April 16th, 2009
10:42 pm
nice, really nice!
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David
April 16th, 2009
10:44 pm
*** Prejudice against overweight people is the only bigotry that remains acceptable in our society. ***
This is not about prejudice, it is actually about equality … everyone pays the same for the amout of area that they use. If a fat person uses an extra seat for free when available, it is everyone one else subsidizing that second seat.
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DB
April 16th, 2009
10:55 pm
The worst flight of my life was next to an overweight guy who simply did not fit into the seat AT ALL. Seats are claustrophobic enough, but sitting next to a guy whose arm is firmly planted in your boob for two hours was misery. I asked him, politely, to please move his arm, and he ignored me (he spoke English, he asked for doubles from the snack cart). I asked the flight attendant to move, but the flight was full. I would have gladly sat next to a screaming baby for two hours rather than have to put up with that guy again.
If a person can pull a armrest up, I sure can pull it right back down. If s/he doesn’t like it, oh well. Guess what, I don’t like being mauled, either. And my likes count at least as much as theirs.
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Wendy
April 16th, 2009
11:27 pm
I travel frequently, and just recently I have had 2 situations that almost caused me to ask for a refund. There are various reasons to have a less than enjoyable flight. I am overweight myself, but fit in the seat and use the regular seatbelt. The lady next to me on a 3.5 hour flight probably weighed less than me, but was shorter and had very wide hips. Part of her left thigh infringed on me and I had to lean to the left the entire flight. Then last week I had a lady next to me who was carrying her 14 mo. old little girl. She really was well-behaved for the 4.5 hour flight, but she kept flinging her little arms so that they hit me on the arm or in the stomach. Her mom was very apologetic. There was not a seat to spare on the plane, so that was not an option. Personally, I think the best and least expensive rule for everyone is partial or full reimbursement for a flight if your neighbor makes your flight unbearable.
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addy
April 16th, 2009
11:39 pm
uhhh…yes. I pay for my space too.
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Jody
April 17th, 2009
12:14 am
Kid-free airlines? Sign me up! I think the some of the screaming kids are just as tortured as the other passengers. On the other hand, ear plugs do wonderful things to mitigate the screaming kids AND help if you have ear problems like I do.
As a frequent traveler who is neither small nor obese, I have to say that there should be a surcharge. I try very hard to respectful to everyone I fly with, but I can’t stand to be elbowed in the breast or turn myself into a pretzel just to avoid having some stranger lean up against me. Lemme tell ya, in the summer, this really sucks big time!
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Alissa
April 17th, 2009
1:49 am
I think this policy is discriminatory. But if they’re going to start charging people for making other passengers uncomfortable, why not charge people who have long legs and their knees stick you in the back or butt for the whole flight? I hate that, so so much… and it happens much more often to me than a fat person taking up extra space in my seat.
Maybe the better idea is for the airlines to stop packing people in so tightly it’s like a sardine can.
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Evan
April 17th, 2009
3:30 am
Airlines have become so greedy, and money hungry! They cram too many seats on plane and make them small to boot! They should give people more leg room and make seats a bit wider, comfortable, and not discriminate. Should you have to pay more because you were born ugly?
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Big Juicy
April 17th, 2009
6:56 am
Now, hold on a minute passengers! Airlines are already charging too many fees. Look at the big picture. One, just because plus size passengers pay more doesn’t mean they won’t still be sitting next to you and adding to your discomfort and two, 61% of the population is overweight so airlines need to make the necessary adjustments to accomodate heavier/wider passengers (ex. bigger seats/added legroom). Let’s not just give them another cash cow. Heck, I’m 6′5″ so what’s next, a fee because my long legs stick out in the aisle a few inches? Gimme’ a break —
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Sarah H
April 17th, 2009
7:53 am
People who are large enough to take up more than their seat should pay extra. I have friends who buy 3 tickets (they are a couple) when they have a long flight. I also find the screaming children and those allowed to do as they please very offensive.
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Rodney
April 17th, 2009
7:57 am
Go United. Now can we do the same for subways, buses and the roads? If you weigh more you are putting more wear and tear on the roads and you need to pay up.
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Michael
April 17th, 2009
8:00 am
60% of the US is overweight. Remember that counts people who are 1 pound or 500 pounds over the ideal. More importantly I don’t care how fat you are. If you are using more that your seat…pay. If you are embarassed by your weight, DIET! Don’t give me that I have a Thyroid problem. The vast majority of the grossly overweight (more than 50 pounds over) in this country have a fast food, donut, and lack of exercise problem. Embarass you? Good I hope it does to the point of causing you to get off your butt. The airline is a private company and doesn’t need to change it’s airplane, or it’s policy to fit you. You need to pay the required fee’s or find another mode of transport.
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Hayley
April 17th, 2009
8:05 am
Have everyone pay by the pound….embarrassing but fair to all…just step on the scales just like baggage. (And I’m not a tiny person so this does not benefit me,,but it’s fair)
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Michael
April 17th, 2009
8:10 am
Now there’s an idea Hayley!
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CJKatl
April 17th, 2009
8:12 am
Last year I flew over 200 segments, mostly on DL and FL, but hit just about every airline at least once. Mostly domestic, all over the country, with a dozen or so international flights in the mix.
I’m sure I’ve sat next to very large people on some of those flights. I’m sure there have been screaming kids on some of those flight. But every single one of those flights got me from where I was to where I needed to be reasonably close to on-time. Isn’t that the point of flying?
I board the plane, read the paper, do some work, listen to my I-Pod, and generally don’t pay attention to what’s going on around me. Maybe I’m lucky that I get to sit in the section of the plane reserved for frequent fliers – those who fly once a month or less might not realize the front of the cabin is held for frequent fliers – so I avoid the people that look as the airplane ride as part of the vacation as opposed to transportation.
The plane ride is meant to get you and everyone else on the flight from Point A to Point B. Those snobs who think it’s better than riding the bus should figure out the price of the ticket per mile. MARTA is more expensive a ride per mile! Concentrate on what you paid for – cheap transportation – rather than looking for private jet amenities and the unimportant things – a child whose going to visit grandparents but doesn’t understand what air pressure does on ears, a person who isn’t happy about being heavy but may be going to his mother’s funeral and feels bad enough about the situation. Frankly, give me a sweaty obese man in the middle seat over a chatty, holier-than-thou complainer who thinks because we are next to each other on a plane that somehow means we should chat and that the fact that turbulence meant the flight attendant didn’t get a chance to give you a few sips of Fresca somehow means you should get your money back for the ticket.
Control yourselves and you can be happy in any situation. Look for something to complain about and be miserable. It’s your choice.
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Buzz G
April 17th, 2009
8:14 am
I can’t believe there is any controversy over this. Has our culture really descended so far that Political Correctness allows fat people to think they are somehow entitled for a free seat or to encroach on the seat of the people next to them? It’s time we stood up to this nonsense.
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brandon
April 17th, 2009
8:15 am
Remember when flying was fun? Young, pretty attentive stewardesses without attitudes…free drinks…fun-loving and considerate fellow travelers…
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Zeus
April 17th, 2009
8:16 am
I don’t think that paying a extra fee is right. I agree with Big Juicy. I am a formal football player and I am big, I am 6′4 and 285 pounds and it is all muscles, and I don’t always fit so i have to buy two seats come on give me a break. The airlines need to make bigger seats and people need to stop crying and suck it up or drive your own damn car. With everything going on in the world right now and people are crying about plane seats, what about the people that have lost their homes and jobs and other things, that is something to cry about!!!!!!!!!
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Sarah H
April 17th, 2009
8:17 am
I like the by the pound idea. I am over 200 lbs and rarely fly but not being able to buckle my seatbelt took me from over 300 lbs to where I am today and I am still losing.
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gus
April 17th, 2009
8:19 am
Fat people should pay more. Its not fair for them to squeeze regular folks out of their seats.
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June
April 17th, 2009
8:26 am
I flew an international flight…14 hrs with one of the largest men I have ever seen in my row. The elderly lady in the middle seat moved to another seat and we had the middle seat open. He did not spill over to the sides of the middle seat. His belly was just so rotund that he could not literally put his tray table down without it being at an incline. I kindly suggested that he use the empty middle seat for his beverage but smiled and struggled throughout the trip. Now, I don’t think that it is fair that he should pay more for comfort. There is a reasonable expectation for that. I don’t think it is fair either for the passenger in front of him having to deal with him pushing the seat forward to maneuver..nor is it fair for the person behind him that had their knees compressed when he would get up from his seat or lean back to attempt to put down the tray table. I think airlines should offer reserved larger seating for maybe an add on price, not necessarily a full fare. I think he already larger human beings know their weight restrictions and don’t need to be glared at with fear. Airlines are capable to adjust for the demand of the public.
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Dennis
April 17th, 2009
8:26 am
Have you ever seen a truck on the road with a “wide load” banner. That wide load permit cost extra, just like a wide load airline passenger should pay.
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Sallysue
April 17th, 2009
8:27 am
No, Many people are obese for medical reasons that are beyond their control. No one wants to be obese. Why punish them more?
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Sally
April 17th, 2009
8:27 am
Absolutely
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Julie
April 17th, 2009
8:28 am
Well, I’m sure this is going to do wonders for the economy and the airline’s profits. I refuse to fly already because it is too expensive and quite frankly I cannot stand to be around other fliers who complain and complain and complain. I remember the very last time I flew over 8 years ago. I had my son who was 10 months at the time. I had paid for an extra seat and he was in a carseat. They made the announcement that people with infants could board early. This woman bagan shouting that “That’s not fair!” When I got closer she actually blocked my way and refused to move! I mean, do you want me carrying a diaper bag, a purse, and a carseat over your head after you’ve taken your seat. There is a good chance that I’ll knock in the head with one thing or another! Well, guess who was my seat mate. I paid for two seats and the skinny whiner didn’t understand why she couldn’t put this next to my son in his seat and why she couldn’t use his tray and “Couldn’t I take him out of the carseat and put it on the floor so she could?” Give me a break! Fat people are not the problem. It is the people who think they are “entitled” and it should be “their” way or no way. Or the frequent fliers who think they own the plane because they fly more often.No thanks, I will save my money and my sanity! Just a reminder: An airplane is not your personal flying car!
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obvious
April 17th, 2009
8:28 am
What if its a taller person? i’m 7 feet and I weigh near 300 lbs. Should I be charged more?
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Joey F
April 17th, 2009
8:28 am
Lets say that you weight 150 lbs. You try to check a bag that weighs 55 lbs. They charge you more for checking that bag. However, the 250 lb person in front of you pays no additional charge. Where is the logic?
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DJ
April 17th, 2009
8:29 am
Great comment Big Juicy (crazy mental image) LOL and Zeus also… One question to the posters… The airline will get more money from raising the price, but what will you get? People are complaining and I can relate, but it’s not like the fare heist (I meant hike) is going to change your situation. By the way, I’m sure everyone commenting on this blog was an uncontrollable crying baby at some point who couldn’t be stopped. Ask your parent if they ever wanted you to shut up.
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Mr. Obese
April 17th, 2009
8:38 am
If all the small people say they want to charge obese fees, how bout we charge a “smelly person” fee, “infant in arms” fee, “noisy child” fee, “listens to ipod too loud” fee, “legs too long to let person in front of you recline seat” fee, or even a “gets up to go to bathroom too much” fee.
If every obese person decided to stop flying because of the fee then the price of tickets would go up to make up for the losses so is that what you want. DEAL WITH IT for the 2hrs or so that ur on the plane. The purpose of a flight is to get from A to B.
Why dont the airlines have a few “comfy” seats in the back of the plane that they could charge a slight increase for obese ppl to gladly choose those seats.
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Jeff
April 17th, 2009
8:44 am
It’s a safety issue as well. If that fat person wedged in their seat next to you or nearby is between you & the emergency exits, you’re at increased risk in the event an evacuation is required. Personally, I’d demand a seat swap, another flight or reimbursement.
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Deb Simmons
April 17th, 2009
8:47 am
My husband and son have to pay more for first class seats if they are to have room for their legs because they are both almost 6′ 5″. Is there a difference?
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DeltaBlows
April 17th, 2009
8:49 am
Yes they should. And all flights should have 5 to 10 seats that accomodate tall people (those over 6′4″). Why can’t tall people be comfortable?
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Flyer
April 17th, 2009
8:51 am
There is a difference between a taller person, a person of a different religion/ethnicity, and an overweight person with regard to this discussion. The issue is whether or not the overweight person is taking up space paid for by another passenger. If this is the case, then absolutely, the person should either pay for two seats or pay for a first class seat. I don’t see this as an issue of prejudice. I see it as an issue of fairness to BOTH the people who have paid good money for an entire seat and to those who are larger and need more space to accommodate their size.
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CJ in Atlanta
April 17th, 2009
8:55 am
Airlines should stop cramming people into coach seats. Surely it cannot be as safe as having a 1/3 or more less people in such a confined space.
I am 6′2 and 175 (not fat), and I am very uncomfortable in coach due to a lack of leg room that cannot be resolved by purchasing an adjacent seat. It’s especially bad when the person in front reclines their chair.
I empathize with the fat people.
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Kitt
April 17th, 2009
8:57 am
I think that until we all get more reasonably sized seats, charging the obese for 2 seats is the only solution. I took a flight to Hawaii (6 hours) and was sitting in between a man who was so large that the armrest couldn’t even come down, and another large person. It was a miserable flight for all of us. I felt sorry for the obese man because he was clearly trying to be as polite as possible, but the situation was horrible.
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JohnJohn
April 17th, 2009
8:58 am
Shame Shame on all of you . I know you all hate me because we are overweight but where is your humanity. I’m big but its your fault, all of you. Even when I purchase a a first class seat those are uncomforatble as well but I only do that because of those dirty looks from people in coach even before I’m seated. I’m always early for a flight so that I’m out of the way of the slim people but I still see the stares, it’s just so cruel. You all should just try to understand it from my view and you will see how I am a victim of a society that discriminates agianst those who have a weight problem….shame on all of you for not having any human compasion and sympathy.
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ye-royalbutler
April 17th, 2009
8:58 am
This is a bad idea. If a person who is too big has to purchase a extra ticket, wouldn’t that push the flight time back? They can’t purchase the ticket on the plane right? They’ve got to get up, go back to the ticket counter in the terminal while everyone on the plane waits. That could take another 30-40 minutes while everyone else on the plane waits. Planes take too long to take off as it is.
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Josh
April 17th, 2009
8:59 am
YES!!! Why should I be uncomfortable,because someone doesn’t know how to control their eating habits. It happens to me all the time and I demand that I get another seat. Lose weight or buy two seats! Plain and simple.
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Bug
April 17th, 2009
9:01 am
People, this is ez. If you need more than 1 seat, you pay for more than one seat. Lose weight, save money. Just because the US has become a country of “entitlement” does not mean I have to put up with your obeseness spilling into my lap.
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Californication
April 17th, 2009
9:02 am
They should weigh each person and luggage then you pay a per pound price to travel. LOL
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A dad
April 17th, 2009
9:02 am
people ARe overweight for a variety of reasons, but when it comes to flying, everyone is paying for a service, i.e., a seat to get from Point A to Point B. I pay the same as everyone else (usually) for my seat, and I want 100% of it. I have flown extensively, and there were times when the individual next to me was so large they spilled over into my seat several inches, not even mentioning the arm rest. If you are that big, then yes, you should pay extra. Whether in the form of larger seats (someone would probably sue for discrimination) or 2 seats, but everyone is entitled to get what they paid for.
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Jaye
April 17th, 2009
9:03 am
Yes. But I also agree with the comment about screaming, ill-behaved children. They are much more disruptive and nerve-jangling than obese passengers.
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Mariah
April 17th, 2009
9:08 am
I am not overweight but I am 6 feet tall and do not fit into air plane seats. Should I have buy an extra seat because they dont make them large enough for someone who is taller? Honestly, the seats just need to be a bit larger.
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Debra
April 17th, 2009
9:08 am
I am tearing up after reading some of the rude comments posted here. As an overweight person, It is embarrassing enough to ask for a belt extension and yes, I use it and stay in my own seat and try not to infringe on the passenger sitting next to me but to think that another passenger thinks I am less than human really hurts. I have sat next to people with the worst body odor ever, the baby who kept crying and the child behind me kicking my seat and you know what I realized I am going to be on the flight for a couple of hours and I can deal with it. Why don’t the airlines make the seat bigger? This is just one more embarrassement for those of us who are larger. We might as well be lined up against the wall so everyone can point and stare before we get on the flight, that way everyone get to take their pot shot at us before the plane takes off.
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Amanda
April 17th, 2009
9:12 am
If obese people are charged more for a seat then short skinny people should be charged less then tall average weight passengers. If you have to buy a second seat for your 3 year child that only weighs 30+ lbs then they should pay less then an adult. Make everyone step on a scale and charge the tickets based on height and weight. Install some seats that are better for obese, tall and also short people. My feet dangle above the ground and it’s very uncomfortable on long flights.
Be consistent in the policy- it’s discrimination otherwise.
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kyfs
April 17th, 2009
9:12 am
IF I PAY FOR 2 SEATS CAN I HAVE 2 DRINKS AND BAGS OF PEANUTS
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Ross
April 17th, 2009
9:17 am
I am obese. Even if there was nobody beside me, I couldn’t sit in the seat with the armrest down. I always purchase two seats when I fly. Yes, it bothers me that it costs me so much to fly, but the comfort is worth it, and it saves me the embarrassment of causing problems for my neighbors.
On a flight from LA, I had the crew try to put someone extra in my other seat. I had to argue for 5 minutes about how I paid full price for the seat, and they couldn’t give it away.
It would be nice if planes had a few seats on each plane strictly for the obese to purchase, like stadiums do, but it isn’t very practical, and is not likely to happen. Until something changes, I accept my responsibility to buy two seats. My biggest concern is the size of the restrooms.I have no idea how the handicapped use them, because to be honest, if I have to #2 on a plane, there is going to be a serious problem, because there simply isn’t enough room in there for that to happen properly.
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SP
April 17th, 2009
9:17 am
Yes. I think the industry should adopt standards like they do for luggage. Charge by weight. Create a base fare and then add on the weight charge. Kids and tiny adults (who weigh less and therefore will require less fuel for transportation as well as space) would be charged less than a heavy set adult. It would also motivate our obese society and is probably the fairest solution. And if you’re embarrassed about your weight, do something about it.
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Doogsga
April 17th, 2009
9:18 am
I’m a bigger man, 6′3″ & 240 lbs but no fat. I pretty much max out the coach seats because of my build. I have broad shoulders that span the width of the coach seats. Because of my dimensions I am hypersensative to those sitting next to me. The airlines simply don’t make coach seats for people my size.
Last summer, I had the disgusting experience of sharing the coach section with the Iranian national basketball team. You just haven’t experienced life until you’ve flown from Salt Lake to the ATL beside a seven footer with no manners who smells like a herd of goats. I would have paid the air marshall a hundred bucks to shoot me half way here if he could’ve been found.
Parents must bring entertainment and food for their children on any flight. If they can’t handle that, they shouldn’t be allowed to fly, or have kids for that matter. My kids are 7 and 5 and have never pitched a fit on a plane. They have flown many times from Seattle to Atlanta and back without mishap. Parents must be held accountable for a child that misbehaves due to the parents lack of foresight.
Although I feel for the obese/overweight people of this world because I test the limits of my own seat, I also believe that if you can’t fit in your assigned seat, you should pay for and be given two seats.
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SuperSexy
April 17th, 2009
9:18 am
America is Obese… I went to my High school reunion and could not really identify everyone because we had all gotten so BIG…..but I think that with a little respect and wisdom a standard should be set for the airline industry so that those that are a little more frumpy can pay the price while they work on dropping those extra pounds by any means necessary….we big-Uns pay more for clothes (not 2x as much) and thats just all part of the price that you pay when you dont take authority over your health…but at the same time if someone takes up two seats then yes charge them for 2 seats but if its just a little bit more of a seat then add a surcharge on to cover …but prescreen us for our weight so that the special accomodations can be made beforehand w/out causing so much embarassment on the plane….there is a way to work it out
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rlm
April 17th, 2009
9:22 am
Fat people or large people whether they are NFL players (probably in first class) should have to pay more if they take more space. If you have extra luggage you pay so should they. I am 5′2″ those seats are crowded anyway. It is not fair if I have to sit next to one of them.
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dawgonegaboy
April 17th, 2009
9:25 am
Just a quick medical update for all you lay persons … there are almost no medical conditions which “cause” you to be overweight. Drugs, genes and diseases can make it easy to gain weight BUT if you don’t put the calories in your mouth you won’t gain or keep weight on … it is strictly a voluntary condition. Just like smoking it is hard to give up but completely up to the individual. An obese, and therefore sweaty, person encroaching on your space certainly should not be tolerated when the answer is so easy … buy another seat! The airlines just need to figure out a way to enforce this BEFORE boarding the plane!!
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Dee
April 17th, 2009
9:27 am
Airlines are so money hungry that they will pack passengers like cattle. If they would design all seats like the ones in business/first class, everyone will be able to sit comfortably rather than paying extra fees due to weight.
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Zeus
April 17th, 2009
9:30 am
Sorry rlm hope we never have the same flight and have to sit by each other, my 6′4 frame might be to much for your 5′2 frame lol…..
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S
April 17th, 2009
9:31 am
Plain discrimination pure and simple.. Call a spade a spade…
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Jim
April 17th, 2009
9:31 am
ONLY if they charge more for children who are FAR FAR FAR more annoying with their screaming and crying that is an overweight person taking more than one seat.
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obvious
April 17th, 2009
9:35 am
Just because I have a 42 inch waist doesn’t mean im fat. i’m 7 feet tall and I fly coach for the same reason you fly coach, I CAN’T AFFORD THE PRICE OF FIRST CLASS!!!!!
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Huh?
April 17th, 2009
9:38 am
Discrimination? Bwahahahahahahaha…Thanks for the laugh. Nobody can change their race, sex, or national origin, but fatties can lose weight if they really wanted to. That’s what’s wrong with most fat people. They don’t want to take responsibility for their situation. They are victims. “Wawawawawawawawa…why am I so fat? Oh, and pass the cheese dip.” Absolutely laughable.
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Neighbor Jeff
April 17th, 2009
9:39 am
RE: “If you aren’t fat, then you do not know how embarassing it is” – I disagree; I’m not fat because I know how embarrassing it might be; I eat well and exercise. Try it.
RE: “REVERT TO THE WIDER SEATS OF THE ’50s” – I agree; the older policies are better policies. In the 30’s, airlines would charge passengers for any weight over 185 lbs. Let’s hear it for the 30’s!
RE: “would you tolerate my piling up my belongings in your living room because I can’t fit them in my house?” – I agree; excellent analogy! How can anyone possibly rationalize that they should occupy part of my seat?
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Jennifer
April 17th, 2009
9:39 am
This is difficult, because as bad as I feel for those who are overweight, I also don’t enjoy having someone take up half of my seat. I feel for those who have medical issues and are obese because of them. If the airlines charged extra for every person who is obese, I would find it troubling because there are those who cannot help it. Unfortunately those of us who aren’t obese pay the price if someone spills not only into our seats but also onto us because it’s gross. Maybe they could be denied the fingernail-sized pretzels the airlines now hand out. Seriously, though. If folks are that embarrassed about their weight and they do not have a thyroid issue or another issue that has caused them to gain weight, maybe it would be a good idea to charge extra for the seats and maybe they would decide to lose weight either out of embarrassment or because they don’t want to pay the extra money. I know it sounds cruel and I have no idea how you could separate those who have medical issues and those who are just fat. This is just my opinion.
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Paragrad
April 17th, 2009
9:39 am
Look, enough with having to be Politically correct and worry about hurting someone’s feelings. Our country is long-overdue to correct our ways. If you can’t take care of yourself and you require more space then you pay for it. Btw- I am a Paraplegic and don’t expect people to give me a special seat on the plane and still manage to stay fit even though I can’t use half of my body. Probably 90% of the fatties blame this or that but in truth you are just plain lazy. Take care of yourself and magically seating will not be a problem!
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Rufus
April 17th, 2009
9:40 am
Yes!
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Matt
April 17th, 2009
9:41 am
You know, there is a difference between being overweight and being a giant lard butt who can’t have their body fit into one seat. Are airline seats comfortable and roomy? Heck no, but if your blubber is spilling over on to my seat you need to be paying for your seat and MY seat that you are using.
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thegreg
April 17th, 2009
9:44 am
if it cost more to ship a heavy package then you should pay more the ship you fat arse…
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Dino
April 17th, 2009
9:44 am
Yes—fat people should pay for 2 seats. Yesterday, on a flight to San Diego, the plane was packed and of course some big fat guy got the middle seat next to me. He was so fat, that his arm rest couldn’t go down, then he copped an attitude and wanted me to move over so his fat could take up some of my seat. Plus, this loser reeked of cigarette smoke. It was 4 hours plus, but seemed like 20 hours.
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Lela
April 17th, 2009
9:47 am
To be totally fair, the airlines should charge passengers by weight like they do luggage, the smaller you are, the less you pay, so the screaming horrific brat that lay in the aisle kicking and yelling at the top of her lungs while being held down by her mother for 3 hours on the last flight I was on would be practically free. Oh Joy! 20 bucks a pound for every one, that would be fair. So if you’re anoxeric, you get a deal and since you only eat every Tuesday, you won’t even have to worry about the lack of any food on the flight. The fat guy can sit next to you. If he gets hungry, maybe he’ll eat you.
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Melinda
April 17th, 2009
9:50 am
Say What,
If you are overweight, you are eating too much FOR YOU. Just because a skinny person eats more than you does not mean YOU are not still eating too much. Weight can be controlled with EFFORT. That means lots of excercise and diet. Combine these two and you will overcome any weight issues you have. The real issue is that most of the overweight people I know are lazy – period. They eat way too much and will NOT excercise. I work out 6 days a week and watch my calories. I don’t reward my self with eating everything I want. I work very hard to maintain my weight. Anyone can do it…you just have to want to do it. It is all about the effort and lifestyle changes.
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Ms. Writer
April 17th, 2009
9:55 am
I rather have a fat person next to me than the kids like the whiny, bratty, obnoxious brat hell children that sat next to me for the long ass flight to Hawaii.
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cj
April 17th, 2009
9:57 am
YES the should pay for an extra seat… OR Seat them all in the same row/next to each other. Lets see how they like their personal space getting infringed upon.
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jerry
April 17th, 2009
9:57 am
the airlines is like all big companies thier GREDDY why dont they just make the seats bigger instead of making the seats so small.the seats are bigger in 1st class 1st class can still be 1st class cause they still have the best of everything else.
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Ross
April 17th, 2009
9:58 am
As some have said here – just push away from the buffet! It is true, most Americans are overweight because they over-eat. Yet, there are those people who have disease (thyroid issues) or take medication (steroids) and are obese because of that. How do you regulate how fat is too fat? And, if it is a medical condition, do the airlines give them a break?
I don’t have children. So, it is an inconvenience and aggravation to me when children are hitting the back of my seat or peering over the seat in front of me, drooling all over my tray table. The screams and crying of toddlers is another affront to my sensibilities. Can we make flights that are for adults only? Or, would that be discrimination?
How about the disabled? It takes time and effort by the airline to have employees push wheelchairs from the arrival area to the gate. Also, it takes extra time for the crew to wheel them onboard. Can you charge extra for that? And, we don’t know how they became disabled. Maybe they were born that way. Or, maybe they were a drunk driver and brought it on themselves.
I guess we don’t really know the reason behind most of the ailments and afflictions that other people deal with in life. Maybe obesity, as it is an epidemic, should qualify people as a protected class. Isn’t everyone part of some protected class anyway?
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Tim Taylor
April 17th, 2009
10:02 am
Fat people choose to eat!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people do you see in Africa? NONE! Fat people get off the couch….stop feeding your face. By allmeans call me if you want to loose weight….but it aint going to be pretty…..you have to looooooose the fork
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GaGrl
April 17th, 2009
10:08 am
Absolutely!! I hold my breath whenever I see large people waiting to board with me. Isn’t there a weight limit for passenger planes? If so, how is it taken into consideration? When numerous obese people are on the same plane it doesn’t it affect the fuel, flight of the plane, etc.?
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T
April 17th, 2009
10:15 am
Maybe if we didn’t have a culture that makes excuses for people to be overweight (actually encourages them to be so for profit), 60% of us wouldn’t BE fat. Fat people, you do NOT have my permission to overeat and simply say you “have a problem”. How is that behaviour different from me saying I “have a problem” working for a living so everyone else should please pay all my expenses. Take responsibility for yourself, choose not to be fat – DO THE WORK!
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Fat person
April 17th, 2009
10:16 am
I am fat; therefore, I do not fly. I can’t subject myself to the rude and hurtful comments and looks any longer. I think that being rude and mean to fat people is considered ok by too many poeple in our society. It is discrimination, and it is ok. If I had to fly, I would definitely purchase two seats, but I do not intend to subject myself (or anyone else after reading these comments) to that. Some of you who comment about fat people are obviously those kids in school who called kids names. Those kinds of comments just make fat people go home to eat to comfort themselves. It’s not fat that makes a person sweat! Some fat people probably eat less at a buffet than many of you who are thin and and so judgmental. I find many of these comments to be rude, childish and just plain mean. Bottom line: airlines give passengers as little space as they can to make as much money as they can. I think most people would like more space.
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AMB
April 17th, 2009
10:17 am
Okay so all of you people with problems with FAT people who gets to define what FAT is? Is it 160 pounds (that’s what the airline seat capacity is designed for)? How will it be enforced? If the airlines enforce it like they do carryon luggage then good luck! What are you going to do when the maintenance guy fixes a seat belt by shorting it 5 or 6 inches? Believe it or not that happens all the time. How is this not discrimination! Obesity is classified as a disease so how is this any different than bringing in a person in a wheel chair. Do they have to pay extra? How about tall people who, because of the long legs, prohibit the passenger in front of them from reclining in their seat. Are they going to charge extra for Black people or Asians? This is a load of crap. For the record I am a FAT white guy but I can fit into a seat without an extension and I am 5 feet 8 inches tall and weigh 260 pounds. I travel 40 weeks a year for business. With all that I’ve seen on planes this is just BS!
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Steph
April 17th, 2009
10:19 am
Heck no – that’s how I got a free ticket out of Delta. The man next to me was SO BIG that he spilled over into my seat – I had to sit sideways from Newark to Atlanta. I complained to Delta – free round trip ticket! The attendants knew I was aggrevated and even suggested I call Delta to complain.
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matt
April 17th, 2009
10:22 am
I can take it a step further. I am a petite young fellow, at 150lbs. What boggles me is that I am forced to pay extra fares for bringing a bag along with me. However, me and my one bag together probably weigh roughly 175 lbs total. However, there will be someone checking in for my flight, who weighs 250lbs and their bag weighs just under the 50. So effectively 300lbs of weight compared to my 175lbs. Why do we pay the same price? It makes absolutely no sense if the airlines argument is always weight related. I suggest charging per pound to fly. Makes it easier and more fair for everyone.
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RT
April 17th, 2009
10:22 am
Interesting to hear people say, “it’s uncomfortable for me so I don’t fly…”. Some of us normal-sized people that fly for business purposes have no choice. And if you are embarassed at having to ask for a seatbelt extension, rest assured the person next to you dreads every minute of your presence there. To the person who likens “prejudice toward overweight people to racism” I call B.S.! Black people are black and can’t change that. Fat people do not have to be fat!!!
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WTF
April 17th, 2009
10:23 am
If fat people are charged more, then I should be charged less. I am 6′ and 155, I don’t workout and eat whatever I want.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
10:24 am
I am 6′3″ and played college football and am not close to 260 now… I fly every week too… there are lots of issues to deal with…fat people blobbing into my seat is top on my list… I hope they make all 5′8″ 260lb people pay double…
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I.V. Boyd
April 17th, 2009
10:26 am
Yes.!! Maybe it will be an incentive for them to make efforts to lose some weight. If a person physically requires 2 seats to sit on an airplane, then they should pay for 2 seats. What is the alternative? Redesign airplane seats to have a special obese section and charge everybody more for that crap? I don’t think so. Then people would be protesting the airlines. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
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Fair
April 17th, 2009
10:27 am
The American way, scream “discrimination” and blame someone or something else on our weaknesses. You pay more for your “larger” size clothes, replacing furniture you wear out, and on and on. This has been needed for some time.
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v2twin
April 17th, 2009
10:27 am
Simple solution. Learn to fly, get your own airplane, have your own seat with all the comfort you want.
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ROSEMARY OTOOLE
April 17th, 2009
10:29 am
In my opinion, you’ve asked the wrong question. Life is not FAIR, therefore, the quandry. Is it reasonable to ask people who take up 2 spaces to pay for 2 spaces……yes, it is.
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KK
April 17th, 2009
10:35 am
If you want to have a comfortable flight pay for first class or business class seats!
It is not fair that the average weight of Americans is increasing, but the airlines are making the seats and leg room smaller.
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
10:37 am
Have any of you geniuses stopped to think……this overweight person you are so repulsed by might just be a huge air marshall that could save your life in needed to combat a skinny terrorist…..or perhaps a doctor that could help in a medical emergency.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
10:37 am
I would be happy to be charged a net price based on weight as would most Delta PM’s even though I am taller and bigger than most people… I travel every week and have one carry on that fits nicely in the overhead and my breif case. I also always put my breifcase under my seat unless I am in the bulkhead, so I do not take up overhead room… that is because I am considerate of others… I tolerate children and always try to help the parents when I can… still, how can a fat blobby person who flobbles and pours into my seat forcing me to touch them the entire flight be fair to me?
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Tea
April 17th, 2009
10:39 am
KK Are you saying that obesity is so common we should all just accept it and start adjusting to it!? If the average weight of Americans is increasing, our nation has a serious problem. It’s not a condition we should be adjusting to.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
10:39 am
How many fat doctors do you know? not many, as they know piling food into your gullet is bad for you…
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
10:44 am
wow “Cracker”…what cave did you climb out of? If you use the American definition of being overweight….There are several doctors that would be deemed as overweight. Unfortunately this thread will probably go on forever due to the fact that many people like yourself have not gotten over simple prejudice towards others. Lets just hope and pray that you don’t need a “fatty” to save your life or do anything for you if your lifetime. And if that be the case….enjoy your time on your own personal “FANTASY ISLAND”….tell Mr. Rourke and Tattoo I said hello.
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J
April 17th, 2009
10:54 am
All you fat people darn sure dont mind paying extra for your “super size at the drive through” so you dang sure shouldn’t mind paying extra for all the space you consume on an airplane!
Get the fork out of your fat mouth or just don’t fly. Leave the flying to all us pretty people without kids!
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DeltaBlows
April 17th, 2009
11:06 am
Then overweight pays more and tall pays less. Overweight subsidizes tall. We’ll use a brightline of 6′4″ and a BMI of 28.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
11:23 am
Nick, I wish I had a cave, I understand some are rather nice.
1) We are not talking about overweight here…we are talking about giant fat people who pour into your seat because they can not fit in their own. Sorry you can not understand the difference. My wife is a Doctor, and I have yet to meet a Doctor at her hospital, practice, med school, or CE events that would not fit in a seat on an airplane. Some may be considered overwight, but not giant blobs of people who can not fit in a seat on a plane. Can you understand this? I know I am just a simple caveman confused by your modern ways…I hope I am clear on this with my simple mind, however…
2)Now, let’s discuss your use of the word prejudice. You clearly do not understand the active definition of prejudice. We all have prejudice. You are prejudice as you think my IQ is below your 90 IQ because I think fatty fat fatties should pay more for flying because i do not like it when they pour into my seat. I am certanly prejudice. When I see a great big giant fat person, I pre judge them. I fully think that they stuff their gullets full of food and do not exercise. I validate this prejudice by knowing that everyone I know who eats right and exercises is not a giant tubby flabby flabonist… I certainly do not know the relevant facts as to how the people got so giantly fat, so I rely on prejudice. I am not mean to people who are giantly fat. In fact, I try to be polite. I help them put their bags in the overhead becuase they usually can not reach them. I also help them put their bags under the seat and help them get their bags back out as they physically can not do this becuase they have giant midsections and limited mobility due to being grossly out of shape.
So, I guess we are both prejudice. However, I do not wet the bed and I am smarter than you. Sorry if that stings….
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Steve
April 17th, 2009
11:33 am
This would be impossible to regulate. Are you going to require someone who purchases a ticket thru e-ticket to then step on a scale, or more appropriately – sit in a standard airline seat, when they arrive at the airport. I’m seeing a carnival sign above the seat saying “You must be this size or less to take your flight”.
You’ll have to give full refunds to passengers who can’t fit. This will cost the airline revenue for a seat they thought was filled.
Larger seats seem to be the way to go, but it will take millions of $’s to retro-fit all the airliners with larger seats. This will also decrease the number of passengers the plane can carry, thereby raising the cost of tickets to everyone (unless the airlines expected to eat the cost).
I’ve had to sit next to a few obese people in my years of traveling. Seating arrangements were not the best as I’m 6′3″ & weigh 230lbs. But if we’re going to start culling people at the gate from taking flights, my vote goes to all the sick travelers. I’m sure you are a nice person, but I don’t want or need your virus.
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
11:35 am
“Cracker”….lol……. I must say….you are a big joke. I won’t belittle myself by going back and forth with you in this forum. I must say it was kind of your wife…being a mental therapist, to marry one of her patients. I simply want all of you to stop to think about the fact that some people are situationaly overweight. “Cracker”, I do understand that you were once an athlete. Think of the consequences if you were to become disabled or were to have limited use of your total physical being. At that point exercise would become difficult. People we are in the 21st century. As opposed to persecuting thoses that are different from us, or outcasting those that don’t fit into what we deem to be the “norm”….lets reach out in concern and try to help. Not by degrading a person, but by embracing them as a fellow human being.
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ugacpa02
April 17th, 2009
11:41 am
To the comment about supersizing, you do realize that what a supersize is at McDonalds or wherever is the same amount of fries that were a regular size a few years ago right? Airline seats have gotten smaller over the years so no matter your size, an adult is likely to be uncomfortable in that seat before even considering if they or a seat mate are obese.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
11:47 am
Now you are prejudice against the mentally ill… but wait, since you wet the bed and do not use logic, it is OK for you to say it…
I am disabled. I have had many, many, many surgeries on my knees, back and shoulders. I walk with a limp and it is very, very painful for me to exercise. I could easily be a flob of blobbyness right now if I did not have discipline and pride in myself. I could have a handicap sticker for my car and have someone tote me through the airport on a wheelchair as well. I choose to not. I understand that there are exceptions. I also understand that there are also many who choose to stuff their gullets with food and take no responsibility for their actions and are empowered by people like you to continue.
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
11:52 am
with each response…..your intellect shows more….keep talking pal.
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LA
April 17th, 2009
11:57 am
Wow, some of you really are cruel…Cracker & J….this is a question about fairness not insult hour at the improv theatre. As mentioned by many, there are bigger inconveniences on planes than someone is large taking up some of your space. So, do we charge more for all of that (stinky people, loud children, long legs poking)? None of it is pleasant but it is unfortunately part of air travel now.
I have been big in my past and am now in shape due to personal choice…which weight loss is for most people. It took embarrassing moments and insults for me to do something about it and I am glad I did. However, what gives you rude people the right in blatantly insult people because they are different than you? No one is perfect and people who insult others are usually the ones who truly have problems with themselves and make fun of others to feel better about themselves.
Debate like an educated individual but do not insult others for your own sick amusement….
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
11:59 am
Hey Nick, those of us North of 100 IQ call that Ad Hominem…
but that is ok, because it is bad to be prejudice unless it is you…
it is bad to make fun of mentally ill people unless you do it…
and why are you persecuting me “thoses” because I am different than you? Why not embrace me as a fellow human being?
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
11:59 am
amen “LA”………I 2nd that emotion!!!!!!!!
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
12:05 pm
I’ll take Hypocrisy for 800 Alex…
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matt
April 17th, 2009
12:06 pm
why is this becoming an argument over fat people versus skinny people? Just charge by weight!!! Simple. If you are fat and happy, pay more. If you are skinny and happy, pay less. It takes less fuel to get my 150lb body 1500 miles than it does to take your 300lb body the same distance. It doesn’t matter at all if you want to be fat, or skinny, are happy with it, or not. You are who you are. So cough up the dough for your portion of the gas money and stop making me cough it up for you.
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Bobby
April 17th, 2009
12:11 pm
The problem is not the size of the people, it’s the size of the seats. The seats are too small for even the average person. Also the overheads are too small for the huge bags that people continue to bring on board. When will the airlines realize they need to quit squeezing. I applaud the present administration’s effort to bring back railroads. There is plenty of room on the train!!
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Nick
April 17th, 2009
12:12 pm
yes this does display “ad hominem”, but those of us that truly know just a little bit also know that ad hominem is primarily used to skirt the actual issue in order to be rude or insulting. Which you have more than done. By the way, I have said nothing insulting against the mentally disabled or challenged. You see being mentaly ill and mentally disabled is two totally seperate entities. To be ill is to be sick….and you my friend……are a real “sicko”. ie: dahmer, gacy, manson, bundy, etc etc……THAT IS MENTALLY ILL. And that is why I commended your wife the good doctor on marrying such a special “nut job”. Perhaps she can instill some humanity in you.
SEACREST OUT!!!!!!!!!!
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Soulfinger
April 17th, 2009
12:20 pm
This is disgusting. Only in America.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
12:31 pm
But Niiiiick, we are in the 21st century. As opposed to persecuting thoses that are different from us, or outcasting those that don’t fit into what we deem to be the “norm”….lets reach out in concern and try to help. Not by degrading a person, but by embracing them as a fellow human being.
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Cracker
April 17th, 2009
12:45 pm
Hey Bobby, having lived in Europe for a few years, I can tell you that there is not plenty of room on trains. Try taking the train from Gatwick or Heathrow to London…there are people all piled in there standing up with their bags in the isles… take a train from London to Dover in the morning with the commuters and the school kids… you are lucky to get a seat unless you get 1st class…there is no way to put an even average sized bag in the overheads… Eurorail is a little better, but the seats are not any bigger than a coach seat on a MD-88… and as soon as someone blows one of them up, there will be long security lines to get on them too…. but why let the facts get in the way of a good story…
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spider
April 17th, 2009
1:07 pm
WOW all these comments about overweight people flying, I wonder what will happen if the airlines let people use their cell phones
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cj
April 19th, 2009
1:50 pm
The airlines have two options:
1. Charge over sized passenger for two 2 if the occupy two seats.
2. Sit the oversized passengers in the same row… so they can squish eachother!
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Justmy2cents
April 20th, 2009
5:09 pm
Wow…having once been over 250 lbs at 5′6″, and yes I squished into my own seat, next to my 6′3″ 200 lb hubby who needed more leg room, I am appalled at the way some of your folks raised you. Fat is truly the last acceptable prejudice. Call a Mexican a “wetback” or a black person the N word, expect to get your butt kicked. However, on this blog and world wide, it is ok to call them big fat fattie, lardo, fat butt, fat a$$, etc without fear of reprisal. I understand nobody wanting to sit next to someone obese or morbidly obese, but us fat folks don’t want to sit next to your stinky, marinated in cologne selves, or not bathed selves, or bratty kids screaming either.
Oh, and I’m not fat anymore (140 lbs), but I still can’t stand the way people treat overweight and obese people. I did have a medical condition; hello, I was in the US Army and still gained weight regardless of PT 7-10 times a week. I didn’t drink soda, eat fast food, or over eat at all. If it was you, your spouse, your mom/dad, or child….you would certainly expect the world to behave differently.
I agree the airlines should institute a few rows of larger seats. They make enough money stuffing us in like sardines with crappy service as is. Even if I was still 250 a per lb rate would suit me fine. I can pack a week’s worth of clothes, shoes, accessories, and toiletries into a carry on bag vs. the “super vain” types with 3 outfits a day and shoes to match!
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LK
April 20th, 2009
10:24 pm
Yes, they should pay more! Lose weight America! We already pay for health care issues why are we smashed into a airline seat?
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AC
April 21st, 2009
4:07 am
Weight is not the problem here; size is. Why should airlines charge by weight? I doubt that a few hundred pounds extra would greatly affect the cost of flying the plane. Also, weighing people before they board seems crude and could be greatly humiliating to everyone, not just overweight passengers.
I think that the fact that 60% of Americans are overweight needs to be addressed by the airlines but I do not think that average-sized individuals should have to shoulder the cost of making the seats larger. Airline fair would increase significantly if airlines could fit fewer passengers on each flight.
Passengers who cannot fit into coach seats should pay for business class seats, as these seats have more room. If you can’t fit, get off the plane and make new travel arrangements. Other passengers shouldn’t be forced to wait while the airline accomodates you. If you know you won’t fit into a single coach seat, make alternate plans AHEAD of time to avoid embarrasment for you and everyone else. This is not discriminatory; it’s equitable and responsible.
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Sarah E
April 21st, 2009
1:03 pm
Speaking of small seats… Travel to an out of state SEC football stadium and look at the seating. We are always squished. It is the size of the seat space and not the size of the person that is the problem here.
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Bill
April 22nd, 2009
8:45 am
I take Amtrak every chance I get. I would be psyched to have additional trains. I have been on Amtrak for many vacations and visits.
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Arthur
April 22nd, 2009
9:01 am
Rail travel is the most civilized form of travel available. It is a crying shame that this country moved away from this mode. Everyone in the world and this country particularly is in such a hurry. We are all rushing toward our deaths anyway. We might as well slow down and enjoy the ride, the scenery and the civility.
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Jim p
April 22nd, 2009
9:15 am
It is not worth the 5 billion “or more” that is budgeted for the task. High speed trains work in Europe and Japan because the populations are much more consolidated and urbanized than in the US. The train system in the US hasn’t turned a profit in decades, I see no justification for the taxpayers supporting failing industries. Obama says he will make some hard choices and maybe find a way to cut 100 million from his 2010 budget (1/36,000th). When the deficit increase is 1.2 trillion dollars in a single year, we need a lot more cutting than that. I have a good start, how about you cut the 5+ billion from the train idea, then add the 6 billion for the “volunteer” program. Wow I just cut 1% of the budget, I must be a magician!
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Arthur
April 22nd, 2009
10:24 am
What makes you think the train system must turn a profit??? If the roadways and airports weren’t all paid for by the governement, those forms of travel wouldn’t be profitable either.
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Scott C
April 22nd, 2009
11:55 am
I’m pretty sure the interstate highway system hasn’t turned a profit in decades. Come to think of it, I don’t think we turn a profit from airport expansion. Should we not invest in those either? Although it would be nuts to build a HSR line clear across the country, there are regions of the US with similar density and distance between cities (this article mentions two of them). A great example is Spain, a country with a great HSR system, which is nearly identical to California in terms of density and area. Not surprisingly, California is planning to connect LA with SF and the voters just approved it.
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Lissa
April 22nd, 2009
12:05 pm
As someone with a disability and cannot drive, I would LOVE to have the rail option for travel!
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Cynthia
April 22nd, 2009
12:24 pm
I really hope this happens. I love traveling by plane. I don’t travel by amtrak because the service is both slow and overpriced. High speed trains however are a whole other story. I regularly travel from Atlanta to NY, a 2-hour flight that usually takes about 6 hours (door-to-door) without any delays.
If I had the option to travel by high speed train, I would choose it every time.
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Rafael
April 22nd, 2009
12:54 pm
Per H.R. 2095 [110th] and the Joint Explanatory Statement – Division A (p82 in PDF) for H.R. 1 [111th] a.k.a. the stimulus bill, the threshold for “high speed rail” has been raised from 90mph to 110mph, i.e. what is known as regular speed for intercity trains elsewhere in the developed world. Admittedly, not a huge jump but it’s still early days. California’s true bullet train system will reach top speeds of 220mph on an all-new, dedicated network of 800 miles of dual track – with a price tag to match.
Based on the experience of other railways, *average* train speeds need to be on the order of 1.5-2x car travel at the speed limit in order to attract sufficient ridership to turn an operating profit. In that context, it’s actually remarkable that Amtrak’s Acela Express manages to do so even though its average speed is just 80mph or so, especially north of NYC. For planning purposes, the focus needs to be on door-to-door travel time. Avoiding wait states, delays and slow sections is more important – and harder – than reaching top speed somewhere along the line.
On the legacy narrow-gauge network in Hokkaido, Japan Railways use extremely lightweight active tilt trains and up-to-date databases of track geometry to *anticipate* where they can afford to accelerate and where they need to slow down. This combination allows them to achieve respectable line haul times in spite of mandated top speeds of just 130km/h (80mph). In the US, such lightweight rolling stock is not allowed to share track with heavy freight trains.
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MB
April 22nd, 2009
6:42 pm
I’d love it, but the price would have to be far less than what Amtrak offers even now on its regular trains. For me to consider it worthwhile, I need to be able to travel by train for less than I can travel by air. That’s just not the case right now unless it’s a VERY short trip.
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Chris
April 22nd, 2009
7:10 pm
I love the idea. Train travel simply makes sense (economically [with the price of gas], ecologically [with ozone deterioration]). I hope the intermediate stop between Atlanta and Columbia is Augusta. The rapid trains would avoid the traffic jams in downtown Augusta I remember as a child. Additionally, it would bring back a bit of history….trains coming from Augusta stopped in a little town called Terminus..then Marthasville…now Atlanta.
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Ron
April 22nd, 2009
7:21 pm
What happened to the Georgia Rail passenger program? That would have made all of Georgia accessible from Atlanta to Savannah, Brunswick, Athens. Just think what a road trip that would be on football weekends. And to Jacksonville Florida for the Georgia Florida game. Day trips, night trips, a whole other alternate life style would blossom to invlove family bonding. Not just travel to get from point A to point B. I love the idea. Its bigger than just trying to find the best way to get where you want to go.
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Ron
April 22nd, 2009
7:23 pm
Anyone remember the Nancy Hanks?
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Sean
April 22nd, 2009
11:00 pm
The Obama plan is a nice start, but we need high speed trains to travel at least 200 mph and make stops in the major cities for it to work. Most of the corridors make sense, but the trains need to travel much faster than 110 mph for many large numbers of people to use them for intercity travel.
We need to think big and set high standards.
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John
April 23rd, 2009
9:33 am
The $8 billion for high-speed corridors is a very smart investment that will pay dividends for generations to come. Passenger rail is the safest, most environmentally friendly, and efficient means of transportation – this is why Europe has invested so heavily in its train systems. Another important reason we need passenger rail is that a comprehensive system of passenger trains would reduce our need to import oil from the unstable Mideast. In several surveys, 70% of respondents have said they want taxpayer investment in passenger rail. And in every corridor where state investments have been made, ridership has increased greatly (California, Washington state, the Midwest). What has been missing is Federal investment because certain politicians believe that passenger rail must make a profit – even though highways and airports don’t make a profit and are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.
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Lou
April 23rd, 2009
12:30 pm
“On the legacy narrow-gauge network in Hokkaido, Japan Railways use extremely lightweight active tilt trains and up-to-date databases of track geometry to *anticipate* where they can afford to accelerate and where they need to slow down. This combination allows them to achieve respectable line haul times in spite of mandated top speeds of just 130km/h (80mph). In the US, such lightweight rolling stock is not allowed to share track with heavy freight trains.”
Quoted from Rafael.
Exactly…In Oregon and California the freight trains and Amtrak share the same lines. I can’t imagine the amounts of money it would take to either replace the lines or lay down another set of tracks. Then you will have all the tree huggers protesting about it. This is another one of Obama’s stupid hair brained ideas and it will never work.
As for the Highway system it is paid for by the tax payers not subsidized by the tax payers that is the distinct difference. The airports are subsidized by the Government and the Airlines pay for the use of the airport. When we get on the highway, freeway, beltway, whatever, it is free or there may be a small toll charge. When you use Amtrak it is NOT free. That is the difference. Why not make it free? like the highway system? Amtrak’s board of directors is appointed by the President, and the DOT holds the majority of STOCK. I personally find that interesting. That is why they need to make money…because it is a business.
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David
April 23rd, 2009
1:02 pm
The concept of ‘profit’ and passenger rail is largely a red herring. No passenger railway is the world truly covers all expenses from revenue (Acela certainly doesn’t). However, many other very worthwhile government services do not directly turn a profit, yet it would be ludicrous to condemn roads, airports, public schools, or even police or fire services because they don’t make money. All such services do, though, ultimately make a positive contribution to society; The money spent on education gets repaid many times over in a better educated, more affluent workforce, while infrastructure development – road, rail, air, and waterways – promotes economic development (clearly important right now) and job creation. Mobility – often provided most efficiently by rail (every mode of transport has its place) – of freight and passengers is vital for a vibrant, growing economy, yet due to lack on infrastructure investment in general – and passenger rail in particular – we are a nation headed for gridlock.
Atlanta is a good example. You want it to be easy for people to move about, going to work or school, or out shopping or dining and spending money. It is harder to do that when your highways resemble parking lots,. Rail can be a big part of the solution – be it high speed trains, commuter rail, or light-rail such as Marta. Consider for a moment the promise of high sped raill linking Georgia. Any point on the system is then a couple hours from Atlanta, making it completely practical – and even a pleasant trip – for someone from Valdosta or Dalton (for instance) to come into the city to go shopping, attend classes, or even work here. None of those options are practical with air travel, and would take too long by automobile (even without the resulting traffic congestion). Passenger rail holds enormous promise – integrated with a network serving other states and across the country – but it will never make money. That is, again however, utterly not the point.
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David
April 23rd, 2009
2:40 pm
The real problem here is not so much the person’s size, but rather the size of the seat. If the airline seats were not intentionally made as narrow as possible (to cram more of them on the plane) this wouldn’t be such a pervasive problem. With a seat made a reasonable width, far fewer people would ’spill over’ or not fit; Indeed, if the width really is a reasonable dimension, this problem would become sufficiently rare that it wouldn’t be worth mentioning, let alone develop a policy.
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Isaac Osorio Padilla
April 23rd, 2009
3:26 pm
Well,well,well, spring break is over and all that commotion of not going to Mexico due to drug violence was way,let me repeat WAY over exagerated. Beleive me if there would have been any US causalties to students due to drug related violence it would have made it to front page news. I have lost trust in US journalism,and the electronic media does not report facts anymore but hearsay.
There seems to be a deliberate disinformation campaign within the US against Mexico. The so called failed state is not so,when is it gonna fail? The economic disaster forecasted in Mexico did not ocurr either. That mexico has problems,YES. What is not reported is the huge effort to combat corruption and the effects of this fight against corruption is why Mexico’s considered a failed state. If nothing was done then that would be critized. I don’t understand why some groups in the US are using the media to give a blow to Mexico. everything falls under it’s own weight and that there are no casualties from drug related violence is proof of this disinformation campaign. The 3 points that I have mentioned have all been false reports in American Media.
The spring break warning was to hurt Mexico economically not to protect US citizens. It was exagerated.
The mexican state is stronger today than it ever was as it weeds out corruption. The imminent failed state was a wrong prediction just as the weapons of mass destruction in Irak. I hope the US is not paying for their intel, if they are they should get their money back.
The economic downfall did not happen becuase Mexicos finances are in better order than In the US.
Mexico has almost 80 billion US in reserve and an aproved credit line which will probably never use of 40 billion which gives confidence to investors.
It has spent 7 billion US in the drug war which has shaken the entire fiber of Mexican society because it is for real, everyone knows that if they don’t shape up they will ship out. This is Mexicos main problem along with the disinformation campaign from US media equal to second world war propaganda.
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B
April 23rd, 2009
3:41 pm
I agree with the author. While I love trains and try to take them as much as possible for a whole host of reasons, environmental ones among them, in order for trains to have mass appeal they are going to have to be competitive with planes on routes where flying is an option in price and perhaps even time. 90 mile per hour trains are nothing to be excited about. New York Central ran trains above that speed in the 1940s. Even steam engines could move over 100 mph more than 100 years ago. The northeast corridor owned by Amtrak runs their trains (most designed in the 1970s) at 125 mph in the open stretches. Acela approaches 150 mph in the same stretches. The stops as well as rail congestion are problematic factors, dropping the overall speed on a line very dramatically. Most importantly, the fact that 70% of rail lines that Amtrak runs on currently are owned by freight carriers, means dramatic slow downs and delays. This is going to mean building new, restricted access, lines for high speed rail, not sharing tracks under unfavorable terms with freight.
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Jerry H. Sullivan
April 23rd, 2009
6:01 pm
I am opposed to the expenditure of any money for HSR. First of all, the $8B will only pay for some consultants, who will take and write a report. In addition, HSR will take a many year commitment, something we are not good at. Obama will be office 4 or 8 years, and then the next regime will shoot it down.
I would rather see the money spent on rehabilitating the current system, equipment, and routes. We, in Florida can only get to Atlanta by way of Washington DC, or NewOrleans the same way. There needs to be a viable network that connects all major population centers. If I am in a hurry, I choose to fly, but 90% of my travel, prior to August 2005 was by rail. Katrina shutdown the only Amtrak train that was of use to me, so I am forced to either say home or fly – SouthWest Airlines has a seat reserved for me on 4 flights in June, none of which I am looking forward to, but grandchildren are grandchildren.
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AlanB
April 23rd, 2009
10:16 pm
Lou wrote: “As for the Highway system it is paid for by the tax payers not subsidized by the tax payers that is the distinct difference.”
Sorry Lou, but last year the Fed dropped $8 Billion of our Federal Income Tax dollars into the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) to keep it from going bankrupt, that’s a subsidy since even those who don’t own cars saw their money go into the HTF. The HTF, which is funded via the Federal fuel tax, pays for the bulk of our Interstate Highway System’s (IHS) repairs and expansions.
It was estimated early last year, before the high gas prices last summer drove the fuel tax revenues down even futher, that the HTF will need a $9 Billion subsidy this year and next. Comes 2011 & 2012, that number jumps to $12 Billion, unless Congress raises the fuel taxes and soon.
Even worse is the fact that the current 5 year plan authorized by Congress that we’re operating under, was $79 Billion less than the DOT estimated it actually needed to maintain a state of good repair to the IHS. And that was before a bridge on I-35 in Minneapolis-St Paul fell into a river over a year ago, which set of a flurry of bridge inspections that found Billions more work that is needed.
Then we come to the Stimulus package which also has funding for highways, in addition to high speed rail, yet another subsidy. And many also consider the bailout to the Detroit automakers yet another subsidy.
Lou wrote: “The airports are subsidized by the Government and the Airlines pay for the use of the airport.”
If the airlines paid for the full value of their use of the airports, then the airports would not need a government subsidy. Of course if the airlines did that, they’d be bankrupt too. By the way, We The People also watched as just shy of $1 Billion of our Federal income tax dollars was dumped into the FAA to support airline operations. Heck, we even pay companies to fly almost empty airplanes into small airports around the country. The program is called EAS, Essential Air Service.
Lou wrote: “When we get on the highway, freeway, beltway, whatever, it is free or there may be a small toll charge. When you use Amtrak it is NOT free. That is the difference. Why not make it free? like the highway system?”
The highways aren’t free, you’re paying via the fuel tax, even though you, I, and the rest of America aren’t paying enough via the fuel tax.
Lou wrote: “Amtrak’s board of directors is appointed by the President, and the DOT holds the majority of STOCK. I personally find that interesting. That is why they need to make money…because it is a business.”
What other company sees it’s board appointed by only one person? What other company can basically ignore State laws? What other company pays no property taxes, state income taxes, state sales taxes?
Amtrak is a company in name only, and the only reason for that is to allow our politicians to be able to point at it’s company status to avoid blame for any problems or failures.
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April 24th, 2009
11:49 am
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anonymousella
April 25th, 2009
9:09 am
high speed rail is *IDEAL* for regional travel. the DC-BOS route is incredibly well traveled. A high-speed train from ATL to Charlotte, Birmingham, Savannah or Chattanooga is almost a no-brainer. A high speed rail would make New Orleans a 2.5 – 5 hour trip (depending on train speed) rather than a 7-8 hour interstate trip. i’d take rail in a heartbeat if pricing was competitive and the schedules made sense (atl to charlotte that arrives at 1am? what?). i’d take the train more often if it wasn’t so inconvenient.
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April 26th, 2009
10:08 pm
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Kyle
April 26th, 2009
10:09 pm
My sister and I have booked a trip to an all inclusive resort on the hotel strip in Cancun for the second week of May. We are keeping an eye on the developments, but are uneasy about the trip because of the swine flu outbreak and the NY spring breakers who got the virus from Cancun. We are going to buy traveler’s insurance for an extra $30 each that will cover medical expenses if we get sick, and guarantee at least a 75% reimbursement if we cancel prior to a 48 hour deadline after deciding not to go. Hopefully it won’t get worse.
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RW
April 26th, 2009
10:17 pm
I still would like to go….but i may get myself a flu shot first if possible. I’ve heard it can help.
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Taylor
April 26th, 2009
10:19 pm
Looking at a map from one of Mexico City’s major newspapers, it’s quite apparent that the epicenter of the outbreak is Mexico City, “zona metropolitana” immediately surrounding the city, and the state of San Luis Potosi. Look a little farther out and states such as Guanajauto, Veracruz, and Gurrerro (home of Acapulco) have few, if any, cases. If you are planning on going to Mexico, go! The exchange rate is fantastic, the tourist resorts are uncrowded, and the number one security priority (both in terms of Swine Flu and Narco-violence) of the Mexican government is places where tourists frequent. If you are smart and proactive, you will have a great trip! Go and enjoy!
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AllAmerican
April 26th, 2009
10:23 pm
From the looks of the map, I would most definitely avoid Texas and California.
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bulle
April 26th, 2009
10:24 pm
no way, 187 people sick??? 6 Canadians was the latest stat, you know how many Canadians have visited Mexico in the last month, thousands and only 6 reported flu like symptoms, no data on how many of the six cases where travelers, and in all 6 cases the symptoms were mild.
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bre
April 26th, 2009
10:34 pm
We booked a trip to a resort in the Yucatan May 22-25. If it were just my husband and I we would still go. We have young children at home so we have decided to talk to our travel agent about making different arrangements. It is always better to be safe than sorry when you have little ones
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Belinda
April 26th, 2009
11:20 pm
So here’s the deal all, my boyfriend and i just booked all inclusive to Cancun Mexico on Thursday, we are leaving this Tuesday lol with Airfare and resort and a few activities for 7 days it cost us 3500.00 bucks, we where unable to get the travel insurance due to the fact that we booked last minute. I’m hoping that we are still able to go, but because im Navy my command may say the risks is to high due to the fact that we will be leaving soon on deployment. I also hope i am able to get a refund or change my destination to Hawaii but it’s not looking good. This sucks.
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April 27th, 2009
12:20 am
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Goyo
April 27th, 2009
1:26 am
Don’t succumb to the hype! The chances of getting swine flu if you travel to Mexico — even to the danger spots — are small! Mexico is a WONDERFUL country. Cancun and Veracruz are wonderful destinations. Mexico City is splendid! The post by Taylor regarding the dangers of the cartels is SPOT on: Mexican security is highest (and best) in the tourist spots. GO AND ENJOY!! (Just be sensible and not stupid.)
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April 27th, 2009
9:06 am
You don’t need witnesses ~ must get your marriage license @ probate court and there’s no waiting period or expiration date. VERY easy to get married in Georgia!
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RH
April 27th, 2009
10:02 am
Obama says “don’t be alarmed”. That statement alone scares me.
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luckydog
April 27th, 2009
10:04 am
Now if we can get the Mexicans to avoid comminh to the US!
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Subject
April 27th, 2009
10:30 am
Well I have a cruise planned from June 1st- 5th. It goes to Key West and Cozumel. We will only be in Cozumel from 1-10 on one of the days. I guess the biggest threat would be someone getting off of the boat and being exposed to the flu and possibly bringing it back on board. I didn’t get the insurance but I think it will be okay. I’m not that big of a worrying person. I especially don’t base all my actions on a media that can’t even admit when things are getting better because that would not make a good story. It is a real cause for concern but so is the drug cartel violence and people have been going and having fun every week. So I hope everyone like myself that is still going has a great time!! Does anyone know what Carnival’s policy would be if it was still a state of emergency by the time of my cruise. Would they just go to another location or allow me to transfer to a different destination?
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Mama Cass
April 27th, 2009
10:33 am
To Everyone with travel plans to Mexico,
DHS is about to issue a travel advisory for Mexico. If you can change your plans to travel to Mexico, do yourself a big favor and reschedule.
The current thinking for the reason that Mexico has had 80+ deaths while the US has seen none so far is that there are probably somewhere around 50,000 to 100,000 cases in Mexico, and that these official deaths are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of how many people are really infected.
This outbreak has been growing in Meico for the last month – it is not controlled – I am not telling you what to do but I can tell you, as a public health person, what I am telling my friends and loved ones: DON’T GO TO MEXICO UNTIL THEY’VE FIGURED THINGS OUT AND GOTTEN THE EPIDEMIC UNDER CONTROL. Things are still at a very early stage and will contiue to change, but right now it looks like delaying travel to Mexico is a good idea, personally speaking (although not for “business”, which is why they are holding back on a total travel ban.)
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Roberto
April 27th, 2009
10:35 am
Wear a mask on the plane and just drink tequilla to kill the bug while in Mexico.
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darryl
April 27th, 2009
11:03 am
I’m going to cancun on Thursday for a week, a little worried, but i think everything will be fine.
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kisha
April 27th, 2009
11:05 am
Well here’s the comment that I have. i will be traveling on a cruise line that leaves from california and will stop in cabo st lucas, and cozumel. My family and I are very concerned about this but the insurance that we were trying to purchase woould not cover us because we tried getting it so late. This is a very scar situation bc of the way that you can contract the virus. Because we have spent thousands of dollars planning this trip we will be going unless a travel warning has been issued, otherwise we will have to chalk it up and wear our mask. Someone needs to send some stronger medicine over to mexico to stop this. This is where the U.S is needed!!!! Not in Iraq
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STJ
April 27th, 2009
11:07 am
Let’s see: 100,000 drug gang members running loose (and their government adamantly opposing US protecting/sealing OUR side of the border), now the swine-bird flu outbreak. Nope, not going to Mexico, this year or any other year.
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Tom Veil
April 27th, 2009
3:41 pm
The budget estimates I’ve seen for rail are pretty cheap compared to, say, a new highway lane. If they’re taking my tax money anyway, I’d rather pony up for the 120mph trains instead of the 90 mph trains. Think about the difference between 90 and 120 like this:
Atlanta to Charlotte in 2 hours & 40 minutes? Not bad.
Atlanta to Charlotte in 2 hours flat? I would never buy a plane ticket again!
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Margaret
April 27th, 2009
4:59 pm
I have a honeymoon planned in Riviera Maya from June 10-17th…. I am a little worried about how the flu develops .. Advice? I also have the trip paid in full with no insurance so the chances of changing plans and getting the money back are slim im sure. Im a little ify! and i dont want to ruin my honeymoon
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mexihellno
April 28th, 2009
9:56 am
why would anybody want to go to Mexico. If they are all jumping the fence to get over here then something must be wrong. all of the drugs dealers and murderers, and pig flus. you have got to be kidding me.i am with you STJ i will never in my life time want to step foot in that nasty, gressy, dirty, dieseased riddden place.
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Jeremy
April 28th, 2009
1:20 pm
Like Margaret, I will be traveling to Riviera Maya late June for my honeymoon. I am also a bit nervous. I am hoping within the next few weeks, there will be a breakthrough…do you think this is reality? If the US and/or airlines put a Federal ban on traveling to Mexico, will I see a refund from the airline…regardless of trip insurance?
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Nick
April 28th, 2009
1:56 pm
I am also going to Mexico on my honeymoon June 22nd. I didn’t purchase insurance either but I spent the day talking to the airlines and resorts and most airlines are allowing members to change flights with no fee, but are only doing that from week to week. They did say that if you want to change you flight now you only have to pay about $100 per ticket. Most resorts are understanding but you can’t get back any money for shuttle services and other excursions. My best advice for Jeremy and Margaret is just sit tight for a few weeks and see how things shake out.
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Natto
April 28th, 2009
7:28 pm
I don’t understand why people use this swine-flu epidemy to show how negative, ignorant and racist this people can be, wake up MEXIHELLNO! in what era are you living in, look around you, who do you see! stop the ignorance and try to be a little more human! get out of your couch and get yourself enroll back in high schol to get some education. Patetic!
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Janet Jeffries
April 29th, 2009
9:14 pm
Love it! Cannot wait to hear the tales of your Twilight journey ;o)
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leba
April 30th, 2009
1:02 pm
I´m Mexican, and i´m sad because the way theworld is acting, treating us like were radioactive, and the worst isthat all is pure ignorance, and specially from the “first world”. But do what you need to, life is amazing and we will defeat this situation as a nation unitet. I hope that neither of your countryes find in this situation, because then you know what is feels like. Ah, and by the way, do you know how the virus is transmited? … gess not… Fearfull humans.
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forex lessons
April 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
I learned something here. Thanks for posting.
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Dazzle
May 1st, 2009
10:17 am
I’m from UK and my tickets have arrived today (For 26th May) so far no insurance but would still like to go, my tour operator will not change my holiday at the moment, only for trip up to 22nd of may so i will lose my money if i decide to chane myself, i’m willing to risk it!
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Jesisca
May 1st, 2009
12:11 pm
Im traveling to mexico next week May 8th….cancun actually. Im not too worried, its just the damn flu!
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Karla
May 1st, 2009
2:14 pm
Going to Mexico 5/06/09, a little worrried but like Jessica said “it’s just the damn flu”…
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Karla
May 1st, 2009
3:36 pm
Mexihellno your comment is so ignorant it’s disgusting..think about what you say….
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Dave
May 1st, 2009
8:11 pm
I live with my wife in Puerto Vallarta, and have done so for five and a half years. I am a retired medical professional from British Columbia. When this all broke out we were at first concerned and seriously considered leaving. But after a few days we witnessed the incredible response of the Mexican government, which has been praised world wide, and as there has been no confirmed cases anywhere near us, and that this flu is treatable AND we have incredible medical services here, we decided to stay.
We love it here. It is our home. We love the Mexican people, incredible, open, caring, and tons of laughs.
And we feel much safer walking the streets here than in any major city in Canada or the US. Much safer. My grandkids age 10-16 all run around here like it is their own.
The other day I was speaking with two Federales who were having a coffee outside a local store. Young guys, 25 or so. I asked them what it was like working as a Federal police officer in Vallarta (I asked in english, my spanish isn’t so hot…). One of them told me his mother was so happy when he was posted here because it is so beautiful and safe here.
The resorts are quiet, mostly die hard Puerto Vallarta visitors it seems. The quiet is kinda nice actually, manana in the extreme. Buckets of ice cold beer for 5 bucks, beautiful beaches, sundown at 9 pm, nice life.
If you are worried about coming here for your vacation, don’t be. All of us here are going about life as usual, at a little slower pace.
See you soon.
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Carol Weaver
May 2nd, 2009
1:11 am
Lots of my friends come down to visit me in Gulf Shores during the Frank Brown Songwriters Festival. We enjoy going to the different venues to see the musicians. And November is a great time to be at the beach.
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Christine Camley
May 2nd, 2009
4:17 am
You bet – “The Vancouver International Folk Music Festival”!!
It’s a beloved yearly tradition in gorgeous Vancouver, B.C. Many people attend from the U.S.
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coachk
May 2nd, 2009
4:49 am
It’s a bit out of the SE, but Summerfest in Milwaukee is perhaps, the best annual music festival…11 days, on dedicated grounds right along Lake Michigan, 30+ stages including an amphitheater….last Thurs in June to the Sun after the 4th of July
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Gregg
May 2nd, 2009
7:35 am
The Wanee Music Festival in Live Oak Fl. in early June is the BEST in the Southeast! Just a few hours drive South of ATL on I-75 http://www.waneemusicfestival.com
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sd
May 2nd, 2009
9:09 am
I went to the first Bonnaroo years ago. It was fun, but the unbelievable heat took away from the good times.
I’ve been to Jazz Fest in New Orleans a couple times.
I go to blue grass festivals regionally as well.
There really is nothing better than sitting in the grass with friends listening to live music.
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Tony C
May 2nd, 2009
9:37 am
The Savannah Music Festival (March 18 – April 6) is a great festival and withing 4 hours driving time from Atlanta. I have attended the last 3 years. The have something for everyone from kids show (during the weekdays) and Grammy award wining acts such as Dianne Reeves, Mariza, Marcus Roberts and Chick Corea. Savannah is a cool town for food and romance. Just be prepared for gnats
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Lisa
May 2nd, 2009
10:00 am
AtlantaFest, right here in Stone Mountain, June 17-20. People do travel from near and far, but we are fortunate that it is local. Many award winning groups, family friendly (no drunks, no profanity), and admission also gets you in to all the attractions at Stone Moutain. They have been around for many years, there is a reason why, check it out!
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Patrick
May 2nd, 2009
12:10 pm
Well, if those of you with plans to go are anything like my wife and I who are scheduled to leave on the 13th of May, you are probably obsessing over this flu and watching every news report to get the up to the minute updates. The problem is that I think watching the news is not the best way to prepare. Lets face it, the media organizations are part of a BUSINESS and they make their living on the number of people watching. So what do they do? They HYPE every story and DRAMATIZE every interview. So my wife and I have decided to make our decision with our brains rather than our emotions and are going. We are just going to take common sense precautions. The one thing that will keep us from going is if either of us are suffering from any flu like symptoms. My understanding is that the Mexican authorities are on high alert and may deny anyone access into the country it they exhibit signs of illness. Keep this in mind if you are sick because you don’t want to spend your time in Mexico in quarantine.
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andy
May 4th, 2009
2:59 pm
im planning to go to mexico on june the 10th 4 2 weeks,i live in england are starting to get a bit worried,im well up for going though just want to know wheather everything will still be happening like clubs etc any help would be mnt
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Mark Vaught
May 5th, 2009
11:55 am
While customer care is percieved to be relative priority, money is # 1. Airlines are a public accomidation! Why have they not adjusted seating for such issues? How many years have they had oportunity to expand seating for portions of an airplane? They have the $1,000 oversized seat with customer care that serves 15 high society, while the remaining 150 passengers are patient for service in a cramped seating arrangement. Airlines make a point of larger seats for us less fortunate, but cant seem to find a layout of seating that allows 8 or so heavy set customers per flight to fly. What of pregnant woman or extremely large athletes? Are the 6-9 month pregant woman to pay per pound? Or the 6′8″ 275lbs customer that is all muscle pay per poound? I imgine there body to weight ratio is far better then half the 150 lbs 5″9 customer but still make that “elbo space” a bit tight for there neighbor.
AIRLINES SHOULD NOT CHARGE MORE. They should maake a portion of the seating per aircraft feasible for ALL of society….heavyset, pregnant woman, and disabled.
Like the auto industry….airlines should RESTRUCTURE!
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rich
May 6th, 2009
7:09 am
i too have a holiday booked for the 10th of june just hoping and praying that things blow over cos me and my fiancee have really looked forward to this holiday, if we have to cancel or change our destination hell knows where we will end up
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Carol
May 6th, 2009
9:10 am
There are some pretty cool music festivals in Gulf Shores, Alabama. I love that area anyway, so I definitely make my way down for music festivals, as well as other events.
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Rachel
May 6th, 2009
5:05 pm
Traveling for music is one of the best parts of the experience. I used to live in CO and traveled to the first and second Bonnaroo (24hr drive). Wanee Music Fest/ MagFest in Live Oak are great and close to ATL. Before Roger Waters announced tour dates in SE, I had bought tickets to the Indianapolis show. If you can’t travel for music…where’s your true sense of adventure?
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nate
May 7th, 2009
3:03 am
there must be a special in cancun june 10th cuz thats when me and my friends are going im not worried about the flu i jus dont wanna go down there and it be dead do u think that would be a possibility?
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leba
May 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
Why won´t you read mexican newspappers!!!!! don´t you see the nwes arround the world! God!!!
if you are so scared don´t come, we receive only wider criteria.
all dead, no clubs?, yeah rigth.
don´t come, stay at youre bubble world?
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nate
May 7th, 2009
6:27 pm
yea meanings i have never seen a mexico newspaper in my life im 19 i dont watch the news like i said im not scared of the flu jus wanna make sure cancun is still happening when i get there
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netdragon
May 10th, 2009
1:27 am
I think we’ll see a lot of city-hopping on high-speed rail as opposed to people taking the whole route (aside to save money). I think it is very viable compared to an airport for Atlanta to Charlotte routes, etc. A lot less sitting around waiting for the flight.
Tom: Seriously, do you get into the airport with 5 minutes to spare? Think about all the time you waste in the airport. It turns a 1 hour flight into 3 hours if you include sitting around at the airport.
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sara
May 11th, 2009
5:32 am
im supposed to be flying out with 3 kids on the 5 th of june and im so upset that the travel agent wont let me change destinations free of charge…. £250 is alot of money when you have saved for a year for this holiday…first choice have just continually fobbed me off. i understand they dont probably know anything but they should let familys have pririty to change free,we are having sleepless nites, the kids are upset and worried we still have to go to mexico.travel agents should look out for there customers and not try and make more money out of a sad situation… i have travelled with this company for 14 yrs never again… has anyone had the same problems
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Gartrell Bibberts
May 11th, 2009
10:30 am
European HSR exists because they have eliminated level grade crossings. When we – a nation of auto lovers – are willing to give up easy crossing of rail lines then we can have rapid rail.
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Patrick
May 12th, 2009
12:45 am
No. Here’s why; I will only take my pets with me when they and I can share the flight together, it’s a very easy design, giving human and companions their own compartments to share. Until then, I use car when I travel to places that I’m taking my pets.
I never let anyone who I don’t know watch my pets, this isn’t about to change.
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ANNE
May 12th, 2009
6:18 am
My husband my son and myself are due to go to Mexico on the 26th June and I am so looking forward to going on holiday I do not think people should be that worried as lets face it you can catch the flu in Britain every year in winter. Please lets get our priorities right on the scale of things there is not many people infected so get over it.
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Donna
May 12th, 2009
11:14 am
My fiancee and i are goin to Mexico inJune for 2 weeks. I’ve been readin the internet like insane-o. Im pretty positve we’re goin. Swine flu, drug cartell. What are you gonna do? Im just gonna keep myself up to date on all the news goin around.
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Barbara
May 12th, 2009
6:41 pm
Of course I would. I don’t want my babies being in cargo. And driving is too long for them to be in the car.
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Danielle
May 13th, 2009
4:29 pm
I would prefer to have my dog sitting with me, but he’s slightly too big. I would definately use it to ensure his safety.
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Sarah Maristeph
May 13th, 2009
8:01 pm
I completely agree! Not having to rush into a job after graduation can be an extremely rewarding experience. Most of all new graduates don’t need to feel guilty about taking time off to travel before settling down as the current state of the economy almost encourages students to take advantage of the opportunity. Myself and two of my friends decided to teach overseas and we went through Footprints Recruiting and they were wonderful. They helped us secure teaching jobs in Asia and their services were free. I had the chance to travel to Vietnam on my break from teaching and I will never forget all the warm people I met while teaching in South Korea. I strongly encourage others to do the same.
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matthew fytche
May 15th, 2009
12:55 pm
iam ment to be going to riviera maya on the 4th june with first choice and to say they have been useless is a understatement ive spent a fortune on my mobile and still dont know if iam going and its less than 3wks away. also ive noticed on the first choice website that they keep putting hols up to jamiaca dom rep as i check the prices most days incase we have change destinations and i think this is disgusting has anyone else noticed this?
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Keith
May 15th, 2009
3:07 pm
Hi Sarah — Thanks for your input! Did you have to get a teaching certification before you left for Asia? When did you start your international job search? Was it weeks or months before you departed?
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Jon
May 16th, 2009
1:32 pm
We just got back to California from five days in Mexico, we had an amazing time, no tourists, no problems, no flu.. I cannot think of a BETTER time to go. Just think, Chichen Itza to yourself! And the risk of getting swine flu here in SoCal is much greater than the risk in SE Mexico.
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Ms. Lovely
May 17th, 2009
7:17 pm
NNOOO!!! what is wrong with you people!! Don’t think big people already have low esteem and have emotion problems. I am sure they all of you people have a friend or a family memeber overweight. I am not overweight i am only 110 pounds but i feel for these people. are you gona charge a mother with a cry baby more because they made passengers uncomfortable. Come on make sense. God made people all shapes and sizes and i am sure he doesnt want you to discrimnated against these people. I have believe that people should be more considerate and think of others! peace and love xoxo
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Chris
May 20th, 2009
12:53 pm
I am suppose to go to Cancun from 6/26-7/3 with my husband and son. I am very nervous if the resort/town will be empty. Like nate asked, i would like to know. I want to enjoy Cancuna nd all it has to offer in it’s prime. I don’t want the crowds of spring break, but the natural vibe of the town is what i’m looking for. I am nervous about the flu and the drugs and the killing. Please let me know what you think, any advise or suggestion are greatly appreciated.
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Stacey
May 21st, 2009
10:43 am
Maybe! Under special circumstances like a sudden trip that may resort in a long stay away from home or relocation. I personally would like to be with my furry baby during a flight however if the circumstances called for a separate flight, I would consider this service.
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forex proffessor
May 21st, 2009
9:38 pm
Interesting points! I was actually thinking about this topic last night and this morning (particularly how to incorporate it into my own blog). Thanks for the tips, bro!
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Chris
May 25th, 2009
11:40 am
Yes, I am. I am not convinced that the machines are worth their cost and cost of man power to operate them.
I am concerned that the TSA takes a knee-jerk approach to preventing terrorist attacks rather than a pro-active approach. All security procedures should be taken outside the airport before ANYONE and ANY BAGGAGE / PACKAGE enter the airport.
I am even more worried about millions of citizens (not just travelers) who are blase and lack the foresight to be alert about potential dangers in plain view AND reporting them immediately such as unattended bags and unusual behavior. Americans are far more naive than our European neighbors.
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taxiguy
May 25th, 2009
6:05 pm
Fantastic and interesting forum will look through more a little later, i drive a taxi in Portugal so if anyone from this forum comes on holiday to the Algarve Portugal, come and have a coffee with me, and i can also let you know lots of history from the area…
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taximan
May 26th, 2009
11:21 am
Just like to say hi will come and chat a little later just finishing off some homework, and believe me it is not easy writing in the heat here at the moment.
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Sarah H
May 27th, 2009
9:34 am
At least someone will get a look. It has been a long time. lol
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Liz Smith
May 28th, 2009
5:43 pm
If your looking for the best beach… checkout the last minute vacation rental deals at http://www.nextweekvacations.com
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Carol
May 29th, 2009
3:41 pm
Well, I’m always up for trying new beaches. But my absolute favorite beaches are in Gulf Shores and Orange Beach on the Alabama Gulf Coast. We go there every year (sometimes a couple times!). There is so much for my family to do, everything from fishing and golf to hiking and observing nature at its best. And of course the sugar-white beaches are fabulous! You can find a lot of info on the area at http://www.thebeachiscalling.org.
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faye
May 29th, 2009
7:45 pm
The Sunday after the 2004 Derby I went to the Maker’s Mark Brewery for a tour – it was wonderful!! Very interesting to see the whole process from start to finish. My favorite part was the aroma in the aging room – they call it “the angel’s share” – I thought that was really cool. My only warning to fellow travelers is to not go on a Sunday. Maker’s Mark isn’t exactly in a dry county, but it is in one that won’t allow you to “sample the wares” on a Sunday. We had to settle for some delicious bourbon candy instead – and we took home Maker’s Mark barbecue sauce – hand-dipped lid and all, but no bourbon
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Katherine Conlon
June 1st, 2009
5:15 pm
When I was in 4th grade, my family rented a motor home and drove out to a dude ranch in Wyoming to meet some friends for a two week vacation. The drive was only supposed to take three days, but it ended up taking about eight because the motor home broke down four times. We stayed in more Holidomes than RV parks. The highlight of the trip was watching my dad get into someone’s car we had flagged down because the motor home had broken down half way up a giant hill and about 40 miles from the nearest town. We tried to write down every detail about that person and their car and hoped that my dad would actually come back unharmed in those pre-cell phone days! He did return, and we did eventually make it to Wyoming and back, but, needless to say, our RVing days were over.
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Glovesave29
June 1st, 2009
5:27 pm
I went on a cruise to Alaska with my 4 siblings and their significant others and my parents. After a long flight with spirited trivia games and adult beverages, we spent 2 days exploring Vancouver. The cruise goes up the inward passage so it is always smooth sailing. The sun is up about 20 hours a day, and when it is down it’s just barely over the horizon so its never really that dark. Some of the best photos I took were at 3 in the morning where the mist is red from the rising sun. We did the adventure junkets off of the ship…we rode zip lines through the trees in Ketchican – riding along 150 feet off the ground. Took a seaplane ride over the glaciers and landed on a lake in northern BC. Rode a small dinghy up a fjord to the base of a glacier while dodging icebergs, sealions, whales and seals to watch the ice calve into the sea. In Juneau we took a helicoper ride up onto the Mendenhall Glacier and drank the pure run off rivers that run across it. In Skagway a train ride up the very canyons the gold rush had run up 150 years earlier dropped us off at the Chilkoot Trail in the Yukon where we hiked a few miles along a prisine glacier lake. One morning was spent sea kayaking in a little bay that was shared by hundreds of otters and a few bears and bald eagles. The afternoon was spent whale watching, where we also saw eagle nests and the salmon spawning. The final day was spent driving up the Kenai peninsula (near the site of the notorious bridge to nowhere) and exploring Anchorage. We were fortunate that our flight home was delayed by 4 hours, so we took the bonus time to make a small plane excursion off to explore McKinley and were able to see not only a group of hikers scaling the mountain, but witnessed an avalanche on the other slope. Back in Anchorage we enjoyed some of the many microbreweries…then boarded the plane and headed home. A remarkable vacation!
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MIchelle
June 2nd, 2009
7:58 pm
Vacation Horror…Ok..my family and I went with my parents on vacation to the DR..my mom wanted to save money and booked us on a no name brand airline with retired planes that are no longer used in the USA..just great..on the way back I felt something was wrong when we arrived at the tiki airport to a airline terminal where when you checked in there were two sticks in the ground to hang your AIRLINE sign in for check in! We boarded the plane and was 1/2 way back home..when the pilot came on and told everyone to turn off their electronic devices..my son who was playing gameboy continued playing..suddenly we looked over and heard a pop pop..outside the window the engine had caught on fire. My son said, “Mom looked what I did to the plane take my gameboy!” Behind us a lady yelled, “Media..the plane is on fire and preceded to faint in the isles! Panic hits like the wave at a football game! The flight attendent jumped over her and head to the front of the plane..my mother starts screaming she has killed the whole family, my father whose English isn’t so great asks for a drink!!..the plane is then ordered to turn around and go back to Punta Cana..we arrive to rescue vehicles on the runway and the slide gig!..we finally get off the plane to a spokesperson who states we can go back on the 3 am flight or the 9 am flight. I ask him, how many planes do you have with your airline..he says two including the one we were on and that they are sending over the part to fix the plane that just came back for the 9 am flight! I took the 3 am..THANK YOU!..well with no place to go we stayed in the open airport with 3 young kids and the rest of the people wanting to go back at 3. Well the mosquitos realized it was a buffet and proceeded to eat us alive! Nice! We are standing for 3 hours smacking ourselves! Finally the plane arrives..we cheer and rush forward to get home..ONLY to find that one of the passengers, had a immigration issue! NICE..45 min later..finally…The spokesperson announces that those that had previous assigned seat numbers could go first and the rest would board after. As soon as he said that my sleeping son proceeded to PEE ON ME!! Nice! I grabbed the spokesperson and said, “My son just pee on me..I want to go first!” I guess after looking into my eyes, he grabbed the speaker and said, “Women and children first.. and this lady is first!” I was never so happy to get home, take a shower and put on itch creme!
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Howell Sanders
June 2nd, 2009
11:26 pm
Family Vacation each year is always special as we spend a week on the beach with our two children and three grandchildren. This year was ever more special as my wife during her 30 years as supervisor for the Department of Family and Children Services dreamed of spending a month on the beach after she retired. She was able to get away from the abused Children situation three years ago and this year we were able to fullfill her dream. We spent a month on the beach with our children and grandchildren able to be there for a week and the last week her sister and brother in law was able to come down for for 5 days. This was great as she and her sister are very close and to us everything is about family. As of this July 4th, we have had 39 vacations together. P.S. the reason we were married on Independance Day is it was the only week of vacation I had in my old job, (I WOULD GIVE UP MY INDEPENDANCE ALL OVER AGAIN)
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Amy
June 3rd, 2009
2:37 pm
We are a family of four and we love to travel. We were going on a trip to Ireland and my brother, who has a friend from Ireland, decided to join us. His friend offered to let us stay in their cottage while we were there. This was an extremely gracious offer and considering the positive impact on our travel budget, we accepted.
We visited Cork for a few days and did some sightseeing prior to heading north to the cottage. First, I would like to note that it was winter, and I’ll leave it at that. Second, the cottage was located exactly in the middle of nowhere. We stopped twice for directions while driving in sleet. The second stop was one of my favorite experiences of the whole vacation because of the authenticity of it. It was late at night and we were on a country road looking for our turn. We pulled into a pub and walked in to a room that looked very much like someone’s living room with a fire place and a bar in the middle of the room. The bar was lined with little old men who were only able to give us directions once they figured out the family tree of the person who owned the cottage. They pointed us in the right direction and when we pulled into the driveway of the cottage, it looked like something out of a fairy tale (from the outside).
My husband and brother went in to get a fire started and to turn some lights on. We got inside and found a lot of bugs, a single wood burning stove that had not been used in quite some time, and no way to wash/dry our bedsheets in order to go to bed. We were tired, hungry, and a little scared to turn the lights out. We made some macaroni and cheese and played UNO in the kitchen/living room while we waited for the stove to heat up the room. Since this was the only room that was warm, we pulled the chairs together and decided to sleep as best we could. I drew the short straw and slept straight up in a chair with my 7 year old daughter draped across me.
About an hour after we had all fallen asleep, we noticed the room started to smell smokey and the pipe coming out of the top of the wood burning stove was glowing bright orange. I quickly gathered the kids and our bags and headed to the car. On the way to the car, I noticed dozens of blinking eyes reflecting at me from the dark. Apparently, we were surrounded by a field of sheep, which I wish I could have seen in the daylight. My brother and husband put the fire out and returned everything to the way we found it.
We got in the car and drove to Galway to find a hotel room. There was a sporting event going on in the city, so after stopping at several hotels, we started to get a little discouraged. Finally, I remembered the hotel we had originally booked, which was just outside of town. We showed up at 2 am, bedraggled and wreaking of smoke. The gentleman at the desk, who obviously felt sorry for me, told us that he did not have a room to sleep 5, but we could take a double room and drag the cushions in from the couch in the hallway for one of the kids to sleep on the floor. We gladly took it and enjoyed the rest of our trip.
To this day, if you ask my kids about their trip to Ireland, they will first tell you about the night we ‘burned down’ the cottage!
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Julie Heinisch
June 4th, 2009
6:52 am
My story happened when I was about 13.. My mom, stepdad, sister, brother and myself decided to go camping. We bought a tent, supplies, etc.. We had absolutly no experience with tents, camping, etc whatsoever.. We brought out dog camping with us, in a tent, to Lake Lanier campgrounds.. It was absolutly awful.. It rained the WHOLE time, the dog had diarrhea and we spend the whole time fighting since we were all so stressed out… I think we got rid of that tent as soon as we got back! LOL And I have not been anywhere near a tent since!
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TnT's Mom
June 4th, 2009
2:13 pm
I too, have camping memories. One trip to Florida we were evacuated from the State park due to the impending arrival of a hurricane. They told us on the Sunday afternoon of Labor Day weekend. We weren’t due to go home until Tuesday. So, rather than drive back to Atlanta that afternoon, we looked at the map, picked an inland Florida State park and headed there. Got there and it turned out to be in the middle of swampland. High humidity, hot, gator warning signs, very large mosquitoes. We spend most of the time inside the camper, it was too miserable to be outside for more than 20 or 30 minutes. The bright spot that in the park was an underground cavern. We took the tour and were sad when it was over. It was very cool underground compared to the heat above.
We went to Amicalola Falls last February. Rainy, cloudy and foggy the whole weekend. But then again the campground is on top of the mountain. The Falls were beautiful and my two boys did manage to get some hiking in. We had extreme trouble starting and keeping a campfire. That made it difficult to get out food cooked. In the middle of the night on Saturday, we ran out of propane and the heater shut off. My husband drove for an hour, thanks to the GPS, to find propane. Finally Sunday just before we left, the sky cleared and the sun came out, so we were able to get some great pictures.
Memorial Day this year we went camping with 2 other families at a campground near Hiwassee, Georgia. Great time despite the rain. But thankfully our friends brought tarps and we strung them up between the trees and stayed dry. We had 10 kids and 6 adults and had a wonderful time. That is until we went to pack up and leave. We could not find the keys to our pickup truck. We looked for over an hour, turning everything inside out. We never did find them, but finally found the spare key, so we did manage to get home.
So our motto is, every trip must contain memories. Some funny and some not, but we will always be able to recall the trip.
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LT
June 4th, 2009
2:36 pm
I love my family and last year I decided to make my normal family of 6 (two adults four kids) an extended family vacation. I invited my aunts and cousins to go along. They all agreed and thought it was a great idea and I was excited! We were all headed to the beach. The trip started out smooth enough a little complaining here and there about the 6 hour drive but I just ignored it and kept moving since were were in three cars I really didn’t have to hear that crap anyway. We got to the beach and to our designated rooms and just relaxed the first day. On the second day it was one of my cousins birthday so we had a little gathering in one of the rooms with all 15 of us. We left my neice in charge of the children and all the adults took a stroll on the beach. We all needed to get out anyway because we were all feeling rather grand from the party beverages. After strolling for about an hour hoping to come down a little we headed back into the hotel but not before I took a cool dip in the pool – fully dressed shoes and all. The problem with that was I can’t swim. I guess that told me that the walk did me no justice. I did have a designated driver that goodness. We left the hotel and headed back to our hotel. As soon as I walked in the door one of my other cousins was calling me telling me I was not going to believe what she had just seen. It seems that my aunt and cousin decided to have their own WWF show in the room that they were sharing. It must have started with some words but I know it ended in a cage match. The kids were horrified my cousin was horrified and my husband and I were tickled. He said only your family. He was in awe. The rest of the trip was pretty much ruined because there were too many attitudes from that point on. Later on I heard that the match was over a twinkie. My cousin was made someone ate the last twinkie. LOL. I said never again…well I lied we are headed out in two weeks. I can’t wait but I did send out a memo – NO WRESTLING, FIGHTING, OR BOXING MATCHES ALLOWED.
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Nicholas Porzio
June 5th, 2009
7:19 am
When I was a kid, we used to take a lot of road trips in the family station wagon. It was great for building the bonds with my two brothers and 2 sisters. We played ‘I spy’ and other roadtrip games. We sang ‘Puff the Majic Dragon’ and other popular songs. Of course every now and then, Dad would have to use the Daddy voice when we started getting on each other’s nerves . Something that happened on just about every trip that stood out: Dad would ask Mom, “did you get the …?” I remember she would say ‘Oh no…” It would be something different each time and we would already be a couple of hours out-of-town so we couldn’t turn around. It’s so funny…it happens to us now…but I always try to go over the list while we are still in the driveway.
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Deana
June 5th, 2009
8:01 am
The best family vacation me and my kids ever had was when they were 11 and 13 years old. My parents live in Tampa, Florida, but they were here in Atlanta that weekend so we stayed in their apartment while they were up here. It was the first time that I was able to provide a vacation that money within reason was not option. My dad had got us discounted tickets to Busch Garden. Saturday we got to the park a little early because we had to wait for the parking lot to open. We enjoyed the park so much. My youngest son didn’t like to ride roller coasters so he had to hold all our things. While me and oldest so rode every rollercoaster at Busch Garden that summer. You know how high the food is in the park, but we were able to eat and drink what and when we wanted without having to think about the cost. After we left the park they wanted to go back to the apartment and get in the pool where they spent another two hours in the water. We later went to CiCi’s where they ate until their stomachs were full and slept that night like babies. The next day we started out on our journey early again. We beached hopped that day. We went to every beach from Clearwater/St. Pete to De Soto Park. I am not a big fan of bridges over a lot of water and my kid knew this. So on the way back home I miss my turn to get on the Gandy bridge which I could handle and I look up I was headed for the interstate 275 bridge. I pull over to the side of the rode and started to panic slightly. There was nowhere for me to turn around so I had to hold my breath, grip the stirring wheel, and ride the middle of the road. My oldest son was sitting up front he turned off the radio, told my youngest son to be quiet and we crossed that bridge in silence. When I got off the bridge my heart was racing but we made it and of course you know they turn the radio back on. When we got back to the apartment they head back to the pool again for another two hours. THIS WAS OUR BEST VACATION EVER.
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Vicki Chalker
June 5th, 2009
10:22 am
My family, and I go on vacation each year to the beach for 9 days. We have been going, and staying at the same place for 30 years. This is a very fun time for all of us. We are now 5 generations going. The things that I remember doing as a child I now see my nieces and nephew doing. It’s so great to watch. We enjoy our time on the beach, and the kids getting excited when they hear the bell of the ice cream truck coming closer is awesome. They get their ice cream, and before they can even take the first bite it’s already melting. By the time they get done with it they literally have ice cream from head to toe. They love it though. We also enjoy our time at the pool of the hotel that has a 60 foot waterslide. They kids go up the stairs and down the slide over and over again for hours, and when you tell them it’s time to go you always get the famous 1 more time. We are getting ready to go on this trip, and I’m counting down the days……13 days left.
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Debbie
June 5th, 2009
10:26 am
My husband works for a commercial airline and we have enjoyed and cursed the benefit of travel by way of Non Reservation throughout his career. Back in the “old days” this meant, that you dressed your self in your Sunday best, (suits, ties, dresses, stockings and heels) you checked your bags and you waited at a prescribed terminal gate to see if someone had failed to wake up and get to the plane on time, so you might have the chance of sitting in their seat. I use the word “chance” loosely as you always ran into other “Non Revs” at the same gate hoping to get in that same seat before you did. While you waited to see if you would even get to start your vacation, it gave you the opportunity to size up other non revs lurking about and try to guess if they had more seniority with the Company than we did. Were the other non revs graying in the temples, were their children teenagers or ankle biters? After being “bumped” from two or three flights that we had watched load and depart, we finally got on a plane headed for Calgary, Canada. Given the nature of this kind of travel and the dicey way the trips tend to start out, we often would not make a reservation for a car or hotel, since we were never sure if we would reach our destination. Well we make it as far as the Airport at Calgary; our goal is Banff National Park. Unbeknownst to us, it was the same weekend as several other non publicized events that managed to scarf up almost every available rental car, save one lone compact which we stuffed our luggage and two kids into. Ahhh! By now it is starting to get dark and we hope to put a few miles between us and the airport. We didn’t get very far before we pass several motels with neon “No Vacancy” signs, we keep traveling…more “No Vacancy” signs. Finally, we stop and inquire at one motel and the guy looks at us and says “there’s nothing available for miles.” I think the owner of that motel saw how beat down we were looking, the desperation in my voice, the whiny kids, and he starts to make a couple calls in an effort to keep us from wandering around aimlessly or forced to spend the night in our car. After a few calls he reports good news, there is a vacancy in the town of Canmore. We head for Canmore; we arrive at what appeared to be a Saloon/Brothel, not the first choice for a vacationing family, rather the last resort. We signed in and was handed a couple of dingy towels and a small bar of soap. That should have been our first clue. We found our room on the second floor. Two twin size, dirty looking beds, light bulb hanging from the ceiling and bath sink stuck on the side of the wall. No toilet, no shower, both were down the hall on the right. Needless to say, we were disappointed, but exhausted as we prepared for a long night, opting to sleep on top of the spread and not in the sheets, and a long night it was. Right outside our window was an alley, about 2:30 in the morning a brawl breaks out with several guys cursing and motorcycles gunning up and down the alley. At that point, I sat perched in a chair for the rest of the night waiting for the crack of dawn. The rest of the trip was enjoyable, but that was certainly a memorable night to forget.
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Mom and me
June 5th, 2009
12:36 pm
Last summer for my mom’s 80th bday, I took her to Austria and the Czech Republic. We were riding a train between Vienna and Prague when the train stopped and an elderly man and about a 6yr old boy joined us in our compartment. Neither spoke a lick of english and were clearly “czech country folks”. (maybe a farmer and his grandson we thought). While we were riding along the boy had a water bottle in his hand and was in my opinion being very good. He was smiling and giggling (as opposed to the american kids down a ways on the train running up and down the halls and screaming) The elderly man, clearly unhappy about something scolded the boy repeatedly. We had no idea why. Then, without warning the elderly man reached across and smacked that boy across the face! A smack that clearly would have someone here thrown in jail. The boy never cried, never whined. He sat very still and had a frown on his face. My mom and I looked at each other in horror but remembered we were in their country now, not ours. When we finally reached Prague and our hotel, my poor mom came down with a bad case of hemorhoides. I went out, not knowing any Czech, looking for a pharmacy where hopefully I could find someone who spoke english. I had visions of trying to describe hemorhoides to someone who didn’t speak english and the thought wasn’t pretty. Luckily I found someone who knew enough English to understand as I stood there pretending to scratch my a** what I was looking for. I kept the Preparation-H box as a souvenir (all the text is in Czech)
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Ferguch
June 5th, 2009
3:55 pm
About 20 years ago, my family and I planned a vacation to Epcot Center in Orlando. A couple days before leaving for vacation, our pet cat had caught a baby squirrel. We were able to rescue the hairless squirrel, whose eyes had not opened yet, and care for it. The day we drove to Orlando, my father mentioned we could not leave the squirrel in the hotel as there was a chance the hotel staff could find the pet and kick us out. So, we checked into the hotel, freshened up, grabbed the squirrel, which was residing in a Girl Scout Cookie Box, and went to Epcot. Worried about the family budget at the time and the price of admission to the park, an executive decision was made to save the $5 pet boarding fee at Epcot and leave the squirrel in the car. Yes, Precious, the squirrel, was left in the car, in Florida, in the middle of the summer. My family enjoyed the park and, feeling we had just had the best vacation ever, headed back to the car. Getting into the car my mom looked at my father and said, “we have a problem.” Precious was not moving. My mother, who thought Precious had a heart attack, started CPR. As we drove back to the hotel, my sister and I watched in horror as my mother performed mouth to snout. After a few minutes of the life saving technique, my mother told us the squirrel was gone. She put the squirrel back in the Girl Scout Cookie Box and let my sister and me say good bye. When I looked at Precious, she had the look of a hot dog whose eyes had popped open like two fried eggs. Our vacation ended with my mother performing a burial service in the parking lot of the hotel. My father was not in attendance as he was in the dog house. 20 years later my family still reminds my father of the incident with Precious.
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Edith
June 5th, 2009
9:38 pm
One of the best Disney “secrets” is how to ride in the driver’s cabin of the Monorail. You don’t have to be royalty, or even pay extra. You just have to know WHERE to stand. When you approach the monorail entrance go as far forward as you can. You will see a turnstile. There is usually a castmember there so you can ask if you are in the right line. You may have to wait for the second (or third) train, but this is especially helpful after fireworks or parades when the regular cars are slammed full of guests and their strollers. The only downside… a maximum of 4 passengers at any time, so if you have a big family you may have to split up.
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Amber Davis Collins
June 5th, 2009
11:04 pm
I’ve always wanted to see Patagonia in the southern tip of South America, so last fall my dad, his sister Alice, and I made our way down to the Chilean part of the region. The three of us had vacationed together before, and from that, I knew that Alice would keep things lively. After four flights, a taxi, and a bus over the course of four days, we arrived just outside the Torres del Paine National Park in Patagonia. We quickly settled into our hotel and made arrangements to go to the park the next day.
That morning, a bus picked us up and took us to the park, stopping by a convenience store so that we could pick up last-minute necessities. I realized just how differently Alice and I reasoned when I compared our purchases. For our hiking trip, I chose graham crackers and water while she bought chocolate and beer. (My dad, the smartest of the three, didn’t buy anything. He knew that Alice and I would tote our own goods, and then share with him when it was time.)
After a few days of intense trekking through landscapes chock full of snow capped mountains and dotted with guanaco (a relative of the llama), we headed back to civilization. Once we arrived, we sought out a masseuse to work the kinks out of our shoulders and backs that we had acquired from toting around all that water and beer. We promptly spotted a sign in the window of one of the better hotels in town. We went in and made individual appointments for that afternoon. Because I speak Spanish, I was chosen as to go first. I was supposed to scope the place out and report back to the others before they went in.
I entered the tiny room and was greeted by a professional looking middle aged woman. “So far, so good,” I thought. After the usual small talk, she told me to get on the table.
“Should I take my boots off?” I asked in the tone of voice that clearly meant, “Huh? I haven’t even taken my shoes off yet!”
She shrugged her shoulders as if to say, “Whatever.”
I quickly pulled my boots off and hopped on the table, wondering why I hadn’t been told to remove anything else.
“What areas do you want me to focus on?” the lady asked.
“My shoulders and back,” I replied.
For the next hour, she focused almost exclusively on my scalp and face. I was hesitant to say anything because every time that I looked at her, she had her eyes closed and was silently chanting to herself. So I just kept my mouth shut and hoped that she would move to my shoulders and back. Eventually she did, but only for about five minutes. When the hour was up, she informed me that her tip was not included in the price. I nodded, left some money on the table, and went downstairs to pay the rest. Once downstairs, I closed out my bill and looked for Alice, who was supposed to go next. She was nowhere in sight, so I proceeded to the hotel where the three of us were staying and found my dad.
“Where’s Alice?” I asked.
“I don’t know. I guess she’s on her way to get a massage.” He answered.
At that point, I told tell him about my experience. I summed it up with, “Just be ready because it’s not what you’re used to.”
“Okay,” he replied.
Shortly after my dad left for his turn, Alice returned to the room with a bewildered look on her face.
“What did you think of the massage?” she asked.
“It was the lousiest one I’ve ever gotten,” I answered. “What about you?”
She didn’t answer. Instead she asked, “Did you take your clothes off?”
“No,” I responded. “I don’t know how on earth that lady thought she could give me a good rub down when I’m all bundled up in these winter clothes.”
“WHAT?!?!?!” Alice nearly screamed. “YOU DIDN’T TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF?!?!?!?”
“No.” I gave her a funny look. “Did you?”
“Yes! She told me to! She told me to take everything off. EVERYTHING!!!! I removed my shirt and pants, and she just looked at me and told me to take the rest off!” Alice exclaimed.
“Are you sure?” I laughed. “I mean, are you sure that’s what she meant?” I asked.
“YES!!! She told me IN ENGLISH,” Alice said.
“She didn’t speak in English to me at all,” I responded, a little skeptical.
“I swear! She told me in English to take everything off!” Alice protested. “So I did, and got on the table and tried to cover myself with a towel, and she just pulled away. I kept telling myself, ‘Amber did this, Amber did this.’ It was the only thing that got me through.”
By that time I tears were rolling down my face I was laughing so hard.
Alice, however, did not find it funny. “She gave me a nipple massage!”
I nearly wet my pants.
“I just kept repeating to myself, ‘Amber did this. Amber did this.’ I can’t BELIEVE you didn’t take your clothes off! Whatever you do, don’t tell Joe,” Alice pleaded. I howled with laughter, knowing that there was no way on earth I was going to keep this story from my dad.
“How much did you pay?” Alice asked me.
“Thirty dollars, plus a five dollar tip,” I told her. “And you?”
“She charged me FORTY dollars, and that didn’t include a tip!” Alice exclaimed.
“I bet you had to pay extra for the nipple massage,” I gasped hysterically.
When my dad returned, we immediately quizzed him about his experience. “It was okay, but I’ve had better,” he told us. “She talked a lot and didn’t use enough pressure on my back and shoulders.”
I was still reeling from Alice’s story, and could not contain my laughter.
“Well, I guess I’ll tell you before Amber does,” Alice began. And she proceeded to repeat her story again, with more embellishments than before.
My dad and I spent the rest of the trip teasing Alice, asking her if she was ready for another “Patagonian style” massage. To this day, we still double over with laughter when we talk about it.
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Tonya
June 7th, 2009
12:53 pm
Every year we take a road trip to Pensacola Beach. Its breathtaking with its sugar white sand and blue clear water. Its a must see & experience. http://www.visitpensacolabeach.com/
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dan
June 8th, 2009
2:35 pm
More han once went to Wheeliefest ihe Pocohnos even camping once. Cool people, music and free beer!!!!
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June 8th, 2009
5:19 pm
Just got back from Riverbend in Chattanooga! Good times!
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Dale
June 8th, 2009
10:50 pm
There will be a Twi/Tour Salute to Twilight Convention in Atlanta July 10-12 with many of the stars. Did you know? If you’re interested kindly join http://www.myspace.com/twilightconventions
For more information about Twilight Conventions coming to other cities please visit http://www.twilightconvention.com
Thank you.
Anita
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sanz smith
June 9th, 2009
8:01 am
I recall playing that game with my family members also. Great way to travel.
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Cris
June 9th, 2009
10:51 am
Funni stuff that “pull my finger” game.
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Wabbit
June 9th, 2009
2:42 pm
I guess you can consider this a family vacation. My father had recently married a bimbo and he wanted me to meet my new “grandparents”. (My dad got along with them because they were the same age.)
On one hot July day, Dad, the bimbo, my boyfriend and I started up the interstate in Dad’s brand new motor home. The bimbo had picked it out so of course, it had all of the bells and whistles. After many miles, my boyfriend told me that he was not feeling well and went into the bathroom. That is when we discovered that there was something horribly wrong with the plumbing.
The smell that filled vehicle was deadly. The bimbo and I kept looking at each other, and finally broke into hysterical laughter. We started opening every window as quickly as possible which resulted in everything not tied down to start blowing around like we were stuck in the middle of a tornado. Soon thereafter, we discovered that opening the windows and letting in hot air only exacerbated the smell.
My father reacted to the smell and the flying debris by trying to outrun it. The worse the smell got, the faster he drove. Pretty soon, we were flying. He passed everyone and everything. You know how they tell you to vary your speed when breaking in a new vehicle, well that went out the window (while the smell did not). He had the pedal to the metal and was not letting up.
My boyfriend finally came out of the bathroom, looking sort of green. When he realized what he had caused, he played the “I am sick” card (which was really the “I am embarrassed” card) and went to the back to lie down.
Shortly afterward, he called me to the back. There, he took my hand and asked me to marry him. That was almost 15 years ago and we have been happily married for over 14 years now. Dad and the bimbo did not fare as well. She has gone back to bimbo-land which made everyone happy.
So, while most women can paint a pretty picture of the story of how they got engaged, the one I can relate has mini-tornados, noxious odors and my dad driving up the interstate like a bat out of hell.
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Angela
June 10th, 2009
9:32 am
I often frequent National and State parks any chance I get. I absolutely love the outdoors that is when it’s not a code orange smog alert day. I feel that parks are treasures and are great for getting and staying in touch with nature. They are places to unwind and remove you from the daily bump and grind. I do not know whether or not the free weekend deals will encourage or entice anyone to visit a park, but what else can a park offer? Most already have free admission, free walking/hiking trails, free educational classes and tours, and so on. If the free weekend deals help bring a couch potato or serious gamer outside, then I think that’s a good thing. If it brings a family closer together, I feel that’s wonderful. If this helps anyone appreciate the beauty of Nature, I think this is fantastic!
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Carol
June 10th, 2009
9:33 am
I’m sending my husband to Gulf Shores, Alabama for a long weekend of golf…but he has to bring me and the kids with him! Can’t pass up a family vacation at the Alabama Gulf Coast. And it’s a great place for golf, so he’ll get plenty of time on the green that weekend!
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Rob
June 10th, 2009
10:40 am
The squirrel story is hilarious! The poor dad, stuck in the doghouse. Haha
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Laurie Goldsmith
June 10th, 2009
12:40 pm
Georgia folks in NYC
When we were in college, my husband (boyfriend then) and I decided to go to New York City with my sister and a friend of hers. My parents were living in New Jersey so it was an easy hour bus ride. We arrived at Port Authority bus station in New York not knowing what to expect. The first thing we saw when getting off the bus was a crash right in front of us. Two cars collided into each other. The drivers got out, started cursing and yelling at each other. Then they proceeded to get back in their cars and drive off. What a welcome to the Big Apple! Well now we are in NY, what should we do? Going to see a Broadway play sounded like a great idea! We went to Times Square to buy tickets and were amazed at the mobs of people waiting in line. We proceeding to get in a random line and after about 45 minutes of not moving anywhere, we realized the futility of this venture. Someone told us we could go to the Winter Garden theatre and get tickets there to see Cats. We found our way there and hopped in another long line. We were getting tired and hungry so while we waited, my husband went across the street to get Arby’s. He had to take out a loan at the bank next door for the unbelievable New York prices for a measly greasy meal. After another hour, we made it to the ticket window only to be told the only seats left were balcony seats with a partial view for $45! We decided it wasn’t worth it. Now we have wasted a couple of hours in New York City and haven’t seen anything! We headed to the Empire State Building. At this point, I really needed to use the bathroom. I asked the guard where to find a bathroom and he rudely says “Upstairs! Move along!” Upstairs??! We got our tickets and proceeding to the line. I think all people do in New York City is wait in line! We go up the elevator a few flights and got off again looking for a bathroom. Once again we were told the bathroom was Upstairs…Yes, I had to go to the top of the Empire State Building to find a bathroom! Next we planned to go to the Statue of Liberty. However, when we got there, the last ferry of the day had left. We braved ourselves on the subway with a lot of rude and pushy people. Getting directions was nearly impossible and the maps were confusing and not very helpful. We finally made it to Little Italy for a delicious Italian dinner (the highlight of the trip!) Then we realized that we had to find our way back to Port Authority to get home. We were on the subway discussing how to get back when another man told us he was going there so follow him. He got off and we set out to follow him. Being from the South, we were not used to the pace of the New Yorkers. He took off running and we boogied after him. It was quite the site, the four of us chasing the strange man down the street. A couple of times we thought we’d lost him, but one of us would shout “There he goes around that corner! Hurry!”. Breathless and tired, we finally made it to the bus station. My husband decided that New York City was too faced-paced and unfriendly for his taste. He was ready to go home to the southern hospitality of Atlanta.
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Bruce
June 10th, 2009
12:51 pm
I like the Atek OnBoard Travel Keyboard.
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JS
June 10th, 2009
1:42 pm
Squirrel!
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cp
June 10th, 2009
9:16 pm
The “pull my finger” guy writes really well.
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AW
June 11th, 2009
8:22 am
It’s amazing that most men still have their fingers!!
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Donna
June 11th, 2009
1:00 pm
We’re leaving in a week to Cancun mexico. I’ve been reading alot, and it obviuos its not a ghost town, things are open.(malls and clubs) Hope everything will be fine. I will for sure comment on this site when i get back.
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jt
June 11th, 2009
9:30 pm
Squirrel!!!!!
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Mike
June 11th, 2009
10:55 pm
So my wife and I are on a company trip to Amelia Island and staying at the Ritz Carlton. I’m scheduled to play golf with a colleague but I have to rush to take a shower and in my haste to get in and get out, I hang my shirt from the emergency fire sprinkler on the ceiling just inside the bathroom door. As I’m showering my wife rushes in, the door brushes the shirt and sets off the emergency fire sprinkler in the room and I mean it was like Niagara Falls in the bathroom. A flood begins in the bathroom with water running into the bedroom and out into the hallway. My wife is screaming, not knowing what has happened–only that she is being sprayed with gray water. I’m in a panic running out of the room with just a towel setting off other alarms trying to find a housekeeping person. I made the tee time but we’ve never been invited back!
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sbrequa
June 12th, 2009
12:07 am
I can just picture all those long family trips squished much too close for much too long…very humorously portrayed!
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wdammons
June 12th, 2009
9:46 am
I laughed right out loud on the ‘Pull My Finger’ story.
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Tommy
June 12th, 2009
10:50 am
How about everyone just pays by the pound? You would be charged a flat rate for your seat and then a premium based on your weight. So the 120 lb woman pays one price and the 300 lb man pays another. This should cover the airline’s expense of occasionally needing to allot an extra seat for a large person and rewards people for being lighter. That could be positive public health intervention as well as good business practice.
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CT
June 12th, 2009
6:20 pm
I didn’t think pull my finger was that funny.
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Mary
June 13th, 2009
12:22 pm
Wow. What an ugly issue, huh? In 2 weeks I am going to Ireland & I have been in tears since I purchased the tickets. Why? Im fat. LOL! If you think it’s uncomfortable to sit NEXT to me? Try BEING me!! I am already anticipating the narrow ailes, the seats, the struggle with the seatbelt – and oh no… the bathrooms! I don’t know if I require a belt extension. I Can put my armrest down, but not sure about the tray! AND I am able to squeeze my “girth” into the seat. But It still sucks. For me, the person next to me, and for the poor flight attendants who have to “watch me” board to see if Im gonna cause the plane to lean to one side.
This is my question. From reading people’s cruel & humiliating respnses re: fluffy folks having the NERVE to leave our houses & force the perfect to look at us – what is the issue? Is the issue #1 – charge us more as a form of punishment for letting ourselves “go” & wanting to fly somewhere? Why should we have to buy another seat?? WHY can’t the airlines accomodate us? which, in turn, accomodates you perfect skinny people?? OR #2 – Is the issue that there is an actual SAFETY concern regarding our weighing more than average, thus creating a risk to the mechanics of the aircraft?? Many of you mention that we should have to weigh-in & pay a “fat tax” if we exceed the set requirement. That IS reason enough to charge us more & I would have no problem with that. I want a safe flight too!!
Many of you – and RIGHTLY SO – commented that you paid for a full seat on a flight and deserve to enjoy your trip. Absolutely. Totally agree. BUT – I did too. I paid for a seat on a plane & like it or not – I deserve to be comfortable as well & not subjected to nasty remarks, insults, stares & humiliation. Why am I “lesser” of a customer, deserving of nothing, but expected to pay the same as, if not twice as much as the skinny? If airlines are going to charge us more, humiliate us in front of everyone, threat “bumping” us off the flight… why should I have to pay to be treated that way?? Would any of you skinny folks pay more for that treatment? Do you really think that makes me feel good? Do you really think Im not aware of my weight issue? Do you really think I’m luggin’ this extra crap around with me for giggles??
Make the reason for the discrimination clear at least. I’m a kind person. I’m a reasonable person. I am a respectful person. I am a mother, a daughter, an aunt, a sister & a friend. I am a 911 dispatcher who may save your life someday. Would it really be such a hardship on you all to be as kind to me as I am to you?
Yes, YOU… the one who’s been up drinking all night & smells like stale booze. YOU, the chain smoker. YOU, the one who refuses to wear deodorant. YOU, the one who bathes in perfume/cologne. YOU, who ate a pound of garlic before boarding & didn’t brush their teeth. YOU, with the crying baby, sick baby, hyper-active toddler, or kid that stares at me through the crack between the seats in front of mine. YOU, who won’t stop talking to me. YOU, who WON’T talk to me. You with the spider legs longer than the aisle who has no choice but to stretch them over near me…(and go right ahead! BUT,only after you purchase an extra “floor” space).
I appreciate EVERYONE’s right to get what they paid for & expect a comfortable flight where they can move & breath & not feel “smooshed”… I really do. I want that as well.
How about instead of attacking us poor, lazy, smelly, oozers of fat into others paid for personal space – we ask the airline’s to stop packing us in like sardines & for THEM to address the issue. Don’t any of you get that?? The airlines are struggling & instead of providing REAL answers & resolutions – they are pointing to the fat & yelling “blame them!! it’s all their fault!! We don’t like them on our planes EITHER!!” and ask them to grow the hell up & make seats/sections available to accomodate ALL customers who are paying the SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY & deserve the SAME treatment.
Thanks for allowing me to vent – and if any of you are forced to sit next to me in 2 weeks to Ireland, I promise to lean out into the aisle the entire 10hours & make sure NONE of our body parts even slightly touch….
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Melissa Eubanks
June 13th, 2009
1:03 pm
Spring Break 2007. My family and I were on a short get-a-way to Helen, Ga and my kids wanted to swim so we hunted a hotel that had a indoor pool because it was kinda chilly. So we wound-up at the Super 8, checked in for a 2 night stay, paid cash(upfront), went to our room and changed to go to the pool. We had a great time in the pool and went back to our room to shower and get ready for bed. Thats when the trouble started….(I am the practical joker in the family and I am always trying to scare everyone.)So my kids got out of the shower and the floor in the bathroom was wet, I had my pj’s on and I had to use the bathroom, so I grabbed a towel, wiped up the floor and tossed it in front of the sink in the other room. Well, when I tossed it there was something brown that looked like a shoe string. Well, being funny, I screamed SNAKE. My husband and kids jumped on top of the beds sreaming and yelling “Get it, Get it” I’m laughing at them, bent over the towel to actually see what was in it and dang if it wasn’t a snake. It looks up at me and hisses and a fork-it tounge come out and shakes at me! Then I really start screaming snake, snake! I WET MYSELF!(I do not like snakes at all)and they knew that I was for real this time. My husand, not coming to my rescue, yells at me to get the garbage can and put it over it. I say a few bad words at him and try to get him to understand that “he” is “the man” and he should be the one to trap the snake. My kids were screaming, My oldest daughter was yelling she wanted to take a picture of it and all I was thinking was this snake is between me and the door, and if the flash goes off will it scare the snake more and it come after me like the deer did in “Are we there yet”. Well,”I” trap the snake in the garbage can, with my husband still standing on the bed and my kids run to get the front desk attendant. The lady come in and takes the snake, kills it and returns to informs us that it was a baby copperhead. She asks us if we wanted to change rooms, my husband tells her that it was late(by this time it was 1:00am)and he did not want to move everything so “he” was ok. SHe leaves our room. I explain to him(in a nice, sweet, calm voice)that if there is a baby cooperhead, there is a BIG MAMA Copperhead somewhere near and me and the kids would not be staying in that room, we would be sleeping in the truck! He then decides that we should change rooms. The lady at the front desk changes our room to a room on the upper floor, kinda laughing about our situation. We get to the other room and we try to settle-in, it is now about 3:00am. We try to watch happy cartoons to forget about the snake. That works for my husband and kids, they fall asleep(for a little while)I keep watching cartoons and a dang GEICO commerical comes on, that stupid lizards tail looks like a snake wiggling around. Then everything starts looking like little snakes. Even on Sponge Bob-theres a little eel that looks like a snake. I start feeling like something is crawling on me, I can’t sleep so I go downstrairs and wait for them to wake-up. They come down around 8:00am and say that they can’t rest either. We speak to the new lady at the counter and explain that we would not be staying the 2nd night and she stated that the other lady told her what had happened and that she was sorry. Well, I was really expecting to be refunded(at least)for the 2nd night that we had pre-paid for and she said that she couldn’t do that and that we needed to speak to the manager that was out of town and he would get with us sometime next week. I kept calling and calling for a few weeks only to finally receive a letter from the hotel that stated that they were sorry for our “unwanted, un-invited guest” in our room,(never mentioned SNAKE) and offered us a free night stay. We NEVER took them up on the offer!
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Browncoat
June 15th, 2009
12:44 pm
Took a trip to Florida once …… and was attacked by zombies from a retirement home. Kinda like “Dawn of the Not Quite Dead”.
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Dennis
June 16th, 2009
12:18 am
My wife and our son took a Disney Cruise, which was wonderful by the way, and booked the flights both ways with all transfers included. Everything was great until it was time to come home. Instead of the Orlando Airport, where we flew into, we were routed to I believe, Melbourne. We were the only people routed that way so we had our own special car and driver. After we finally found our own special car and driver, we took off for the wonderful airport in Melbourne, Florida. We arrived a bit over 3 hours before our flight left so we checked in and went through security, to the gate. The airport is not quite what we were used to in Atlanta, but then again, we would still be on Delta. After a short time of waiting, the other flight, (not flights), left the airport. Ironically, it was also for Atlanta. The wonderful people of the Delta crew finished up their work after the flight left and they took off for the terminal lobby. There was one guy who was working a small snack table and he left also. This left myself, my wife, and my son to occupy the whole concourse. Not another soul in sight. It didn;t take long to get thirsty so I went looking for some refreshment. Not one machine or water fountain in sight. I told my wife I would go back through the terminal and get us something to drink and a snack, to bide our time. I goth the snacks and started to go back to the concourse and take their snacks and was stopped at security and told I could not go back to the gate. The reason stated to me was that security was at lunch. It would be an hour or so until they returned. OK, can you go tell my wife to come out and wait with me. No I can’t. Is their anyone who can go tell them to come out? No I was told. I went to the Delta ticket counter and the same helpful people who were at the gate for the earlier flight were standing there doing absolutely nothing. I told them my dilema and asked for their help. There comment was, that they had no one who could go get my wife and son. OK, call back there and page them. No, can’t do that either. All these people were going to let my wife and six year old son wait there for the better part of two hours, not knowing where I was or what I was doing, in a strange airport on top of that. I went up the chain of command until I reached the airpot manager and he was able to convince the helpful Delta folks that they could go get my wife and son. They finally, rudely, went and asked her to come out and meet me. Had I been the type person to yell, they would have heard me calling them. It was that close, but all the helpful security workers couldn’t go back and get them. We finally were able to board and fly home, back to Atlanta. Here we go to pick up our luggage and, yep, you guessed it. It was not there. Without going into detail about that fiasco, it took me 5 more helpful security people, until one of them would look on their little handheld and tell me that my luggage was sent on the frst flight, that left as we were checking into the Melbourne Airport. It was already in the lost and found office, on a shelf. Moral of the story is; I think I will drive to the port for my next cruise.
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mama D
June 16th, 2009
12:31 am
My family and I just took a 7 day trip to Pigeon Forge, TN. My family included my 4 kids ages 15,17,and twins 13, my two dogs, myself and husband and our fish named Killer riding in a Expedition packed to the rim. Upon our arrival we decided to stop at the Dollar General to get some paper items. After shopping in the store I took my items to the car and proceeded to take the shopping cart back to be placed with others that were outside. I was almost there when I saw a SNAKE about 6 feet long and a little fatter than a 16 oz bottle. It’s head was in an attack mode. I took off, left the buggy there and started screaming snake and ran, ran, ran. I was ready to run back to Ga. After that major shock, I didn’t know if I wanted to stay but the family talked me into continuing the trip. From that point on it rained cats and dogs everyday and my children were acting out because we didn’t have any reception or WIFI in the cabin. We went to Dollywood and got rained out. Then the cabin was not the best. Imagine in a cabin with all the kids and animals with nothing to do and having to cook everyday. I went on a nightmare journey not a vacation.
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Mary Jane Kolassa
June 16th, 2009
8:27 am
What a shame the AJC is sponsoring a “travel horror stories” contest, when the nation’s tourism industry — and Americans who work in it, and those whose livelihoods are in a trickle down fashion also dependent upon it — have been so negatively impacted due to the economy.
Why not be “part of the solution” instead and sponsor a contest about the best vacation taken in the USA? Or where/why would you like to visit someplace in this great land of ours next vacation?
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Bruce Strum
June 16th, 2009
9:38 am
We were at Club Med Turks and Caicos for our Honeymoon in 1995. As part of our excursion, we were able to rent a deserted island. We met the boat at the appointed time and we were taken to our “island.” I asked the boat driver, “If it rains, do we move to another island?”. Ronnie Rastafarian responds, “Yeah mon. No Worries”. Well 15 minutes after drop off, the storm clouds closed in with a torrential downpour. With only a mesh umbrella lined with scuba flippers ,to keep our stuff dry. It didn’t really work out. We had a cooler with a baguette, a boiled egg and ham. Around lunch we were blessed by 16 minutes of sunshine, which was long enough for the reef sharks to close in on our position and keep us on the beach. The rains started up again, so severely we couldn’t see 10 feet in front of us. Well, the boat arrived promptly at 6:00 pm, exactly 1 hour late. The new rasta driving the boat had gotten lost on his way to find us. He anchors the boat, trims the motor up and we load up. The trim won’t push the motor back down, and the boat is drifting with the tides. I finish the beer that was left in the cooler. I put on my snorkel mask and go overboard. I am looking around and notice the huge channel in the seabed. It’s the anchor, not holding, at all. We are being pulled into the serious channel. I bring this to the attention of our “Captain”. He immediately brings out the radio and calls for help. As I am watching this unfold, he doesn’t realize the radio is not even wired in, nor wireless! So our mayday calls go unheard. After one hour of trying, we finally got the motor started. As the “captain” takes off, I hear this enormous banging. I realize that the anchor has not been brought back up and is banging into the hull, repeatedly. We stop, I haul the anchor in and we get back. We find out when we return the storm was the outer bands of a hurricane. We have the vast majority of this whole day on tape.
Not to be outdone by the weather, we had the ability to use a trapeze at the resort. Two days later, we did the introductory class and went up on the trapeze. I am a large man. 6′2″ tall and 250 pounds. When i went off the platform and my shoulders had to hold my wait, needless to say it pulled both shoulders out of joint. Nothing has worked right since.
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Hannah
June 16th, 2009
10:28 am
Perdido Key in Florida was one of the best vacations I ever took! We didn’t play “pull my finger”, but we did swim and play frisbee on the gorgeous beaches, and we even went camping for a few days! Perdido Key was an absolute blast.
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Hannah
June 16th, 2009
10:30 am
Perdido Key in Florida was a great vacation! And the drive down wasn’t too horrific. The scenes of the coastline are absolutely gorgeous and keep you pretty entertained, instead of having to play “pull my finger!” we sat back and enjoyed the ride.
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JMS
June 16th, 2009
11:12 am
My Husband and I love to scuba dive. We try to take a trip once a year. We went with a group to Cozumel, Mexico. I did not feel the need to take my entire wallet so at the last minute, before leaving for the airport, I took my credit card wallet out of my purse and threw it on the bed taking only my one credit card and my Green card out of the wallet and sliding them both into the side flap of my purse…or so I thought….. (My green card was in an envelope to protect the magnetic strip) We had a great 5 day dive trip and on Sunday we headed back to Cancun to catch our flight to Atlanta. Standing in line at the check in counter I reached into my purse felt the envelope with my “green” card and pulled it out to present it with my passport, imagine my horror when I looked down and saw what I was holding was my work “Manager card”, the only other card I keep in an envelope!! I rummaged back into my purse and there was nothing else in the side pocket… I had a semi out of body experience as I realized that in my haste to discard my wallet back in Atlanta I had pulled out the only other card that I kept in an envelope, and being in a hurry had not actually looked at it as I stuffed it into my wallet… Yikes!! I tried to stay calm and not panic, hoping that delta check in might not ask for the green card. I know I was grasping at straws at this point, but thought that seeing as I have plenty of stamps in my passport showing back and forth travel and I have a USA driver’s license I might be OK! Well that was not the case. They refused to allow me on the plane. Our dive master tried to convince them that he would be responsible for me and that once we got to Atlanta I would not try to enter the USA until my husband went home and retrieved my green card, they still refused to let me board the flight… after much consternation it became clear I was not going anywhere without that green card… I convinced my husband he would have to leave me in Cancun and return to Atlanta to get my card and send it to me…. Easier said than done! Monday also happened to be a federal Holiday so we knew we would get no help till Tuesday if at all, so it made sense to leave me in Mexico and for the Husband to try to overnight my card. Hotel arrangements were made and I bid farewell to all our scuba friends.( all 19 of them!!) Of course looking stupid in front of all those people did not help with the way I was feeling right then either. So off I went into a taxi to take me to the hotel. I would spend the next three nights in Mexico, while my husband tried to get me my green card! I got ripped off in the taxi on the way to the hotel; over paying by 450 Pesos…I found this out on the way back to the Airport as I had an honest taxi driver for that occasion…. So I settled in and for two days had a migraine headache with no medication. Back in Atlanta my husband was hitting a few bumps of his own…Try telling someone you are mailing a green card to Mexico and see how unhelpful they become…after three attempts to get a carrier to overnight my green card, he found one that will remain unnamed, as they said they should not do it but they could see his growing distress. Being international it would not necessarily be overnight but it would get to me as fast as humanly possible. In the interim I was calling from the hotel using my credit card to find out when I should receive my green card, and then on the second day of my exile, my bank noticing the calls and charges coming out of Mexico put a block on my card! My first indication was at lunch when the waiter returned my card and said did I have another form of payment…luckily I had some pesos so I paid left and returned to the hotel, tried to call my bank to see what was going on as I knew I had plenty of $$ in the account. So now I cannot even make that call as the phone company is telling me my card is blocked. I am wondering how I am going to pay for the hotel stay. I have only 500 pesos. I am at this point still thinking I need the 500 pesos to get back to the Airport. I managed to have one of the telephone operators call my husband and have him call me so I could tell him my card is blocked and get my bank on the phone and unblock my card… Finally on Wednesday I received the envelope with my green card, I checked out and rushed to the Airport to try to get on the 4pm flight, I just made it and arrived back in Atlanta later that night…After that experience I decided it as time to apply for my USA Citizenship so that would never happen again and I am glad to say I am now a US citizen! The phone charges on my card, alone, were over $800 for those 4 days…That was 5 years ago, now finally, I can laugh about it, but at the time it was not at all amusing!
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JOHN
June 16th, 2009
11:23 am
IN THE LATE SEVENTIES,AS TEENAGERS,ABOUT 6 OF US WENT TO FLORIDA.WE HAD USE OF A CONDO ON THE BEACH FOR A WEEK ,FREE!THE IST DAY WAS PERFECT.IT STARTED RAINING THE 2ND DAY.IT RAINED 17 INCHS THAT WEEK.AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF CABIN FEVER,A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS WERE OUT ON THE BALCONY HORSEPLAYING,WHEN ONE OF THEM SLIPPED AND FELL OVER THE RAILING.HE FELL 5 STORIES!!!HE LANDED ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ THAT WAS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT BELOW.WE THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD,BUT THE HOOD BROKE HIS FALL ENOUGH,THAT HE WAS JUST KNOCKED OUT.HE WAS OUT FOR 36 HRS!HE AWAKENED AND ,OTHER THAN BEING SORE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ,HE WAS FINE.THE WORST PART WAS CALLING HIS PARENTS(WHO DID NOT LIKE US),TO COME AND PICK HIM UP AT THE HOSPITAL IN A STATION WAGON.WE LATER LAUGHED ABOUT THE WHOLE ORDEAL,BECAUSE MERCEDES HAD ALWAYS CLAIMED TO BUILD THE SAFEST CARS IN THE WORLD.MY FRIEND WAS LIVING PROOF OF THAT!!!!!
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Chris
June 16th, 2009
12:02 pm
In 2001, my wife and I took our Honeymoon to St. Lucia in the Caribbean. We were staying at a nice all-inclusive resort and all was well for the first two days. However, on the third day, I awoke with a stomach ache that I subsequently ignored while drinking, snorkeling, just trying to make the most of our time. Later that day, I became violently ill, throwing up with severe pains and other digestion related complications. I went on like this for a while until I became sick to the point where I couldn’t walk. I somehow ended up on the phone with a doctor who told me I needed to go to a hospital. However, the hotel did not help us get there! There was no ambulance and we had to call a taxi to take me into Castries and to the hospital. I was carried into the hospital by my wife and a man from the hotel who had finally volunteered to come and help us. They took me through the lobby (dirty with little plastic public school chairs) and into the main room of the hospital where there were 6 beds (for a city of 60,000!). They took me to a bed that I noticed had blood stains on the sheets and laid me down. I remained there for a while, watching the bugs crawl on the wall next to me. Much time passed, and I didn’t know why my wife wasn’t with me and why no one was examining or treating me. I later found out that the hospital refused to treat me until my wife brought back a receipt from the lobby saying she had paid. The complication with this is that she was very stressed out and hadn’t eaten in a while and therefore had fainted in the lobby. All this time my eyes were rolling in to the back of my head and I was certain that bad things were coming. Anyway, there was a tall man in the bed next to me who woke up about this time. I heard him say “Boy”, “Hey Boy, I’m going to kill you boy”. He kept repeating this over and over and over for what seemed like an eternity. Finally, my wife arrived, handed the doctor a yellow paper, came over, slammed the curtain shut between me and the crazy man who wanted to kill me and sat down on the bed next to me. At this point, I needed to go to the bathroom (I still hadn’t been examined or treated). My wife walked me there. It turns out that the bathroom was a toilet with no seat and no toilet paper that sat exposed along a wall in a hallway. I sat there and then realized that something was off. There was no wall at the end of the hallway! There was a crumbling section of a wall with people milling about on the other side of it, all of them watching me half-consciously using the toilet in the hall. After that ordeal, my wife walked me back to the treatment room and to my bed. Finally, the doctor came over and pulled out a needle (which was not brand new and pulled from a sterile package
) and started the IV. I was there on the IV and sleeping for hours. Eventually, they told us to leave. We had to call a cab, I still had to be carried to it and got back to the hotel. The next day, my wife informed me that we had spent $125 of the $175 we had left on us and still had several days of the trip left to go. We then had to spend the other $50 on a prescription I was given and the taxi to go and get the prescription. Good thing it was an all-inclusive resort! That was it, we tried to enjoy the rest of the trip while I recovered. I’d love to win a trip so that I could give my wife the Honeymoon she never had!
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KIM
June 16th, 2009
12:25 pm
WE WENT TO NEW YORK FOR SPRING BREAK.. MY HUSBAND AND 10 YEAR OLD TWINS.. OUR KIDS LOVE NEW YORK AND WE WERE GOING TO DO IT UP IN THE BIG CITY! ON DAY 2 OF OUR TRIP I STARTED TO FEEL KIND OF CRUMMY , BUT I DID NOT LET THAT INTERFERE WITH OUR FUN.. I HAD A REALLY BAD INTESTINAL BUG, BUT BEING STUBBORN.. I TRUDGED ON AND DID NOT LET ON THAT I FELT LIKE CRAP….ON OUR SECOND TO LAST DAY WE WENT TO A FABULOUS SHOW THAT I HAD WAITED 2 YEARS TO SEE.. BEFORE THE SHOW WE WENT TO DINNER AND MY DAUGHTER CLAIMED THAT SHE DID NOT FEEL TO WELL.. I TOLD HER TO SIP COKE AND SHE WOULD BE FINE.. WELL WE GOT TO THE SHOW .. AT THE INTERMISSION SHE SAID SHE FELT LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO PUKE.. WELL SHE RAN TO THE BACK OF THE FANCY THEATER AND BARFED ALL OVER THE FLOOR AS PEOPLE WERE MILLING AROUND GETTING DRINKS AND PROGRAMS ETC… SHE KEPT BARFING.. THE USHERS RAN TO GET TOWELS ETC AND THE THEATER MANAGER CAME AND LOOKED UPSET.. BUT GOT SOMEONE TO HELP ME CLEAN UP THE MESS…. I TRIED HELPING AND PEOPLE KEPT WALKING THRU IT WITHOUT LOOKING!… THE 2ND HALF WAS ABOUT TO START AND EVERYONE GOT BACK TO THEIR SEATS.. ALL EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SITTING IN FRONT OF US… AND MY DAUGHTER SAID SHE FELT BETTER… WELL… THE CURTAIN WENT UP AND A FEW SECONDS LATER… SHE BARFED AGAIN.. THIS TIME ..ON ME… I RAN HER TO THE BACK OF THE THEATER AND SHE BARFED INTO THE TRASHCAN IN THE REAR OF THE THEATER!
WHAT A SHOW!
THE NEXT MORNING, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE OUR LAST DAY, WE HAD BOOKED A LATER FLIGHT SO WE COULD ENJOY THE DAY… WE ENDED UP IN BED IN THE HOTEL ROOM.. MY HUSBAND WAS WORKING ON HIS LAPTOP, DAUGHTER IN BED FEELING BAD AGAIN, ME FEELING A LITTLE BETTER, AND THEN MY SON SAID THAT HE FELT TERRIBLE AND HE BARFED ALL OVER THE FLOOR OF THE HOTEL BATHROOM..THEN CRAWLED BACK INTO BED… WE FELT MISERABLE BUT HAD FUN ANYWAYS! NEVER A DULL MOMENT!
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Lisa
June 16th, 2009
12:28 pm
How about this for a “vacation of a lifetime.” I’m a school teacher in Dekalb, so my husband and I were married last year after school ended. So this year (literally just 2 weeks ago), we were packed and getting ready to leave for the airport for our 1 year anniversary trip to Spain. Our plan was to travel the country for about 8 days, via trains, rental cars, etc.
On Monday, June 1 (our flight was to leave at 5:45 to Barcelona), I went outside to cover the grill on our back patio at 12:45PM…since we were leaving for the airport at 3:00. As I moved the grill to put it back in place, I felt a sharp pain on my right foot. At first, I thought it was a bee sting…but as I jumped away and looked down, I see a foot-long copperhead snake!!! It had bitten my 2nd toe on my right foot.
My husband rushed me to the paramedics, who took me to the hospital. The initial diagnosis was that I’d have to stay for 2 hours for observation….then it became 6 hours. Delta was AWESOME, and agreed to move our flights, at no charge, to Tuesday, June 2….then, they made me stay overnight…which then became 2 nights.
As I write this, I’ve just begun walking (limping–not near full use yet), and I drove for the first time on Saturday.
We had to cancel everything–hotels in 5 cities, Rail Europe train passes, rental cars, meeting with friends, and our flights. So rather than shopping in museums, sampling all kinds of Spanish culture, and seeing the great museums of Spain (I’m an art teacher), I spent the vaction on crutches and laid up, taking pain and poison medications. Call it the nightmare vacation that never got off the ground.
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Melinda Chestnut
June 16th, 2009
12:29 pm
A lovely and expensive vacation to a St. Kitt’s resort. Upon arrival, no fruity drink with an umbrella, no one to haul our bags through the resort and up three flights of steps after an 11 hour trek to get there and that was just the beginning.
The next day, the afternoon tea sandwiches consisted of Velveeta cheese on stale white bread that I wouldn’t even feed to the cats hanging around the pool.
It was the drinks after dinner the first night that started all the trouble when some drunken teenagers from the UK picked a fight over a discussion about basketball with my (then) boyfriend. They broke his foot, two ribs, and gave him a black eye. Security didn’t help and just let it continue. They threatened to stab me in my “liver”.
The following morning, I went to get some breakfast to take back to the room and the hotel manager called me over to the desk. He told me we had to leave the resort as the folks from UK always had “special treatment”. Was this guy kidding me? We paid a lot of money for a dream vacation – no way we were leaving. I told him to call the police – he wouldn’t. He told me we had to leave the resort in the morning and couldn’t return until evening and that was the only way he wouldn’t kick us out of our room.
I called our travel agent who could not do anything. I rented a Jeep and broken foot and I would go out all day. The shining spot of the entire vacation were the pristine beaches that we never would have found had we not been forced to leave the “compound”.
Thanks, but I’ll return to the USVI from now on!
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hedtil
June 16th, 2009
12:37 pm
Some years ago, I took a vacation through Togo, Ghana, and Cote D’Ivoire. I was a peace corps volunteer living in Niger at the time, and was SO looking forward to seeing green things, water, and fruit (Niger is pretty much entirely Sahara desert). My traveling buddy and I were fairly broke, so we were traveling with just a little bit of cash and nothing else (we only earned $175 a month as volunteers – and had no credit cards or bank accounts as back-up).
We started in Togo, which was lovely and lush. A ‘butterfly walk’ through the forest revealed not a single butterfly, but that was ok – there were pineapples and fruit growing right out of the ground and that was awe-inspiring enough (did I mention that Niger is a desert?). We traveled by bush taxi to Ghana, still having a great time. We stayed at some pretty crappy hotels, but that was expected on our budget. We decided to be adventerous and cross the border into Cote D’Ivoire by a less-traveled route – by canoe. Unfortunately, the town where the boats take off from was tiny, empty, and had no banks. Almost all of our currency was in Ghanaian ceedees, which are worthless outside of Ghana. We forged ahead, thinking someone in Cote D’Ivoire would surely change our money for us.
We hit Cote D’Ivoire, and the little canoe dropped us off at a remote guard post in the middle of nowhere with only us 2 women and 3 male soldiers at the post – around us was just forest for seemingely forever. They seemed friendly, and served us tea just before the bus came. We got on the bus, and had the most bizarre experience of our lives trying to get to Abidjan. Turns out the tea was drugged – an apparently common trick to enable the soldiers to then steal everything from unsuspecting travelers before they are loaded on the bus to the city. Our bus was – fortunately – on time. So we had nothing stolen, but were completely dazed and nearly incoherent for the trip. The trip took around 4 hours; in my memory it was at least 23 hours and went round and round past the same odd patch of forest. I have a vague memory of being dropped off in a huge bus port station, and of stepping off the bus and thinking I might fall straight over. I remember following my traveling companion blindly to the next bus for us to get on, my brain wasn’t working and I couldn’t quite connect where we were or where on earth we were walking to. Frighteningly enough, she remembers it as *me* being the one to find the correct bus, and swears that she followed me in an exhausted stupor and has no idea how *I* got us to the bus. How we actually got on that bus will forever be a mystery.
We made it to the Abidjan airport early the next morning, and decided to wait all day for our evening flight back home as we still had no money in acceptable currencies. When the time for the flight came, there was no mention of it on the board. We asked at the counter, and were told the flight didn’t exist. ??? That was it – no other explanation. Your flight doesn’t exist, go home. There will be a flight that *does* exist tomorrow.
Well, we had no money, so along with some other folks we tried to sleep in the airport. They kicked us out at nightfall and locked the doors. So we decided to sleep on the lawn with the other Africans that had been kicked out with us. Around an hour later security came and chased us off the lawn. Having no idea what to do, and still being fairly woozy even a full day later (hunger might have played a part in that), we spent some of our pathetic amount of CFAs (local currency) to take a taxi to a horrible little hotel near the airport. We begged begged begged the hotel guy to accept our $4 or so for a room. He finally gave us a room (for nearly the rest of our cash) that appeared to be some sort of utility room, but that had 2 tiny, dirty little beds in it. We shoved furniture up against the door (this was really not a good area of town we were in) and tried to sleep. The next day, hungry and exhausted, we made it back to the airport where the flight really did exist.
The flight, operated by Air Ivoire, was horrifying. The carpet on the floor was ripped and showing plywood planks, there was water dripping on our heads, roaches ran by as the stewardess came through and sprayed us all with pesticide. The take-off was shaky and the landing in Mali for our layover was terrifying. It was so bad an African passenger (we were the only non-Africans on the plane) stood up and tried to rally us all to leave the plane in protest and demand a new plane for the next leg to Niger. Not a one of us budged. Much like the rest of the passengers, there was no way we could afford to buy another plane ticket – or even a bus ticket (Mali also uses CFA as currency – same as Cote D’Ivoire and Niger – and we had none). We also knew full well that Air Ivoire would have no qualms at all about leaving an entire group of passengers standing on the tarmac rather than capitulate to any demands. In the decision of whether to risk falling out of the sky on a broken plane, or being stranded in Mali with no credit card, no money, no phone, and no idea how to make it home – we chose the plane.
The plane of course made it to Niger, and all of the passengers cheered in joy when we landed and were still alive. We were able to find tourists heading to Ghana to buy our ceedees in exhcange for CFA, so we could make it from the airport back to our villages. I still have lovely memories of Togo and Ghana, though my memories of the last few harrying days of the trip exist in my mind as a hazy, drug-induced dreamlike nightmare. I still travel in ways that are probably inadviseable, but now I *ALWAYS* have back-up funds in US dollars, always have a credit card, and never accept offers of free drinks!
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Shanna A.
June 16th, 2009
1:28 pm
Well, My story isn’t just about a normal vacation my horror story is about my HONEYMOON!! . Of course you all know weddings are stressful in themselves but it all started on our wedding night we get to the hotel close to the interstate so we can continue to Myrtle Beach for our week long honeymoon and also the first time either of us had been. We get to the hotel and they have given out our nice big king size room with jazzcuzzi and were completely booked up so we settled for a regular room but still had a jazzcuzzi we got o get outta the car and my new husband has hurt his back playing with the ringbearers so he can’t move ( that made for an interesting wedding night) so I was ready to just cancel the honeymoon thinking wewouldnt have much fun if he was in so much pain but he said no way so I ran to Wal-Mart and got a back brace and pain killers and we were on our way Well we get to our beach front hotel and guess what they are doing construction of half of it so it is loud and dirty and right under or room! Well the hotel was nice enough to move us but the view wasn’t near as good. So my new husband is in pain and crabby so we stay in the hotel that night well the next morning we wake up and he can’t get out of bed!! I am thinking”oh lord great we are going to be rugged from now on if I have to get help getting my husband outta bed because his back was hurt on our honeymoon” Well we finally got him out of bed and half way dressed and went of search for a cure Well we finally spot a chriopractor’s office and pull in and since we were across state lines they wouldn’t take his insurance so I had to go find atm to cash and come back well that was pretty much the end of that day because he was so sore from his disc being put back in we just laid in the pool at the hotel. Day 3 we wake up he is feeling ok so we decide to go exploring (for fun not a doctor this time) and end up across town. Well we have a pretty good time and deicde to go back to the hotel and get changed and go to dinner Now the main strip in Myrtle beach is a divided highway with three lanes going one way and 3 lanes going the other way. Well we were in the far right lane ( also known as the slow lane) so we could just kinda cruise and sight see well there was alot of little roads to the right of us you could turn off into to go down side streets . We were enjoying cruising and talking when all of a sudden this Park Ave car goes from the far left lane ( fast lane ) and turns all the way across in fron of us to turn down a side road and we hit and his car slides us down the curb Well we stop and make sure everybody is ok and lucky ended up in a diner’s parking lot so we were outta of the way of other traffic and we get out and the 1st thing this guy says was did you not see my blinker! My husband trying to keep his cool was liek you turned acorss two lanes to turn down a side road! and then another car pulls in and my husband and I are liek great he has a friend with him and he’s going to say it was our fault too but it turned out to be a ex police officer who said he saw the whole thing and would stay and be our witness and then we looked at the car…. the front bumper was gone , the headlight gone and ran over by other traffic and the two tires that had been pushed up against the curb were blown , one completley gone the other leaking air badly and the rims turned inside out. So while we waited on the police to get there this guy who just hit us won’t shut up! Keeps saying I am going to be late for my “T time” I always T off at 10am sharp and I going to miss it because you didn’t see my blinker well suprisely enough my husband was keeping his cool but I was very tempted to slug the guy I mean Honeymoons are non-stressful adn this guy is just being a jerk making a bad thing worse and the cops get there and talk to us 1st and then talk to witness meanwhile my husband with the very sore back Is trying to put a donut on the tire of the worse of the two while this guy is still complaing about his golf as well as standing there saying well maybe he won’t give you too high of a ticket. Well after what seemed forever the officer hands the guy a ticket and the guy stands there and fussing about it but pulls off with little damage to a car that wasn’t even his was his friend’s and then the officer hands my husband one and we look at it and he says did you know your licence had been susupended and my heart fell Im thinking great we are 5 hours from home on our honeymoon with a messed up not sure even driveble car and my husband is fixing to go to jail. But the officer was like it says suspended due to failure to appear on a speeding ticket ( which he had paid 4 days after he gotten) and at this point I am starting to feel lightheaded due to hypervenlation. So they make me sit down and he is like ” Well I can take you in for this but seeing as you are on your honeymoon and you have just been a viticm of a wreck I’ am going to give you this ticket but if you come back on the court date with proof the ticket was paid the ticket will be dropped” So he says bye good luck and we set out to find a way to fix the car well enough to be able to drive home. So my hunny being such a smart cookie goes and buys clear car duct tape at Autozone and make shifts our bumper and whats left of our headlight together but then….the rims they are so warpped that they are eating into whats left of our tire and the donut meanwhile we are havign to stop every few miles to put air back in the tire. So we grab a phone book and start searching for Junk yards in the area which we don’t know ( my car was old enough that was the only place we had hopes of find rims that would fit) So after many many hours and more phones calls then we could count we find one that has the rims and they will put it on for us ( AWESOME) but…then we find out its 1 hour away so with lots or praying and holding our breaths we set out on our hour trip to get new rims well because of the stopping to fill the tire up the 1hours turned into about 2 and then we were praying we would make it there before they closed. Well we did and got the rims and headed back to hotel where we vowed to stay until we left and we did ! So needless to say we just celebrated our 1st Anniversay and someone asked if we were going to go back to the place we spent our honeymoon and we both said real loud real fast NO! NO! never neither of us care to go back there because of the memories but someday it will be a good story to tell our grandkids how we survived our 1st days as husband and wife in a true horror honeymoon story!
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Ragen
June 16th, 2009
2:11 pm
This was truly a vacation that we had anticipated all year – my husband had spent a month in Emory Hospital nine months before, and we definitely needed some rest and relaxation! So, along with another family of good friends, off to Daytona Beach we headed – my husband, myself, our two daughters, and two of their friends – for a week of sun and fun! Well, from the day we arrived, one aspect of the sun and fun was definitely missing – the sun! Every day dawned cloudy, with just a few peeks of sun here and there – and by 2 p.m., the downpours started daily! On Friday morning, we awoke to some very bright yellow substance streaming through the bedroom curtains – sure enough, when I looked outside, the sun was shining brightly and the beach was already packed! We couldn’t get our bathing suits on and get out the door fast enough!
We had spent a couple of hours soaking in the sun and playing in the surf – I was dozing in my beach chair, and my husband and friend were playing Frisbee. The next sound I heard was a very loud “whomp”, and when I looked up, found my husband laying on the beach on his right arm – as he had gone up to catch the Frisbee, a toddler riding a small three-wheeled beach bicycle had literally driven right under his feet, taking them right out from underneath him! He jumped up, with blood streaming from both knees, holding his elbow – and took off running, bleeding, into the ocean – literal shark bait! He had just stopped his Coumadin treatment, so he was bleeding quite profusely – so off we headed to the condo to get cleaned up. We hadn’t made it across the beach before he decided that we had better take a trip to the emergency room – his arm was really throbbing, and he thought it might be broken! I yelled over to my crew to tell them what was going on, and they all came running across the beach – we had made it up the steps to poolside by that time, and waited on them at the top. After we had explained that we were going to the hospital, and for them to stay and enjoy the day, we headed up to the room to get the car keys – only to hear an extremely loud clanking and banging noise – and when I turned around, saw my youngest daughter laying on the floor by the gate, looking like she was having convulsions – she had passed out! A friend picked her up, and we ran into the inside bar area, dripping wet, and lay her down on the couch – I ran to the front desk to ask them to call 911, which some nice person had already done. By the time I got back, the paramedics were coming in – by daughter was already coming to, but they ran straight over to her – a beautiful young teenager in a bikini – completely bypassing my tall, slender, balding husband, who was still bleeding profusely all over the beautiful carpet, holding his arm pitifully, and turning a bright green color! As I explained to the paramedics what had happened, I heard my oldest daughter’s boyfriend saying “mama, she’s going down” – and I turned around to see her hitting her head on the table as she passed out!! There were only two paramedics, and three of my sick family – they didn’t seem to know who to turn to first! The condo employees were running around trying to help also, getting wet rags for everyone and asking if we needed anything to drink! (I figured the condo manager was trying to decide how he was going to get the blood out of the carpet!) I asked the paramedics if we could put them all in the ambulance, and they told me that they would have to call 2 more ambulances – only one patient per vehicle! But, we have some VERY good friends – they had just purchased a brand new Excursion, with leather seats – into which we proceeded to climb to go to the hospital, bleeding, and covered in suntan oil! I’m sure glad that oil is good for the leather! Off we went to the emergency room, dressed only in our bathing suits, to find ourselves waiting in the small waiting area – my youngest daughter, who was feeling much better by this time, said “well, we sure look like a bunch of hicks sitting here barefoot in our bathing suits!”
After a three hour wait (like I said, we have some really great friends!), the consensus was that my two daughters had passed out from the hot sun and dehydration, my husband’s bleeding had clotted on it’s own, and that he had broken his arm!! He got a bright pink cast, and off we headed back to the beach – what a trooper he is! But the sun? Gone, hidden behind some really high haze, just waiting on the next rain shower! And those friends? Well, they haven’t gone back to the beach with us since then!
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Carlos
June 16th, 2009
2:33 pm
My wife High school class was meeting in Miami, FL so we decide to spend several days there. Once I got there I felt slightly sick and told her to go on her own while I rested. I knew that I was going to fell better to accompany her for the meeting (It was not my class but I was friend of several of them.
So I decided to just rest. Of course I was in my underwear and too lazy to get dressed so instead of going out for lunch I order room service. The food arrived. It was very good and I felt better so I decided to put the tray out to be picked up. I opened the door, and put the tray on the floor in front of my door, and at that moment the door slammed behind me. At that moment, I realize two things. The keys were in my pants. The pants were inside the room.
I walked until I got to the elevator where they keep a phone to contact the front desk, and explained my dilemma. So far no one had seen me so it was okay. Right when I hanged the phone the elevator doors opened and there was this young girl who looked at me and to my shame she simply smiled as if she was looking at something funny. I would have preferred if she was angry or offended but how do I respond to her laughing?
Eventually room service arrived. The door was opened and I was back in my room. Later I made the mistake of telling my wife. She of course laughed, which I expected. What I didn’t expect was that she decided to email all our friends about my problem. Then she added that we were escorted out of the state of Florida by the police (not true). Event today two years after she still tell the story anytime that she can. And all because that door slammed too fast behind me.
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Melissa Eubanks
June 16th, 2009
2:49 pm
Spring Break 2007. My family and I were on a short get-a-way to Helen, Ga and my kids wanted to swim, so we hunted a hotel that had a indoor pool because it was kinda chilly. We wound-up at the Super 8, checked in for a 2 night stay, paid cash(upfront), went to our room and changed to go to the pool. We had a great time in the pool and went back to our room to shower and get ready for bed. Thats when the trouble started….(I am the practical joker in the family and I am always trying to scare everyone.)So my kids got out of the shower and the floor in the bathroom was wet, I had my pj’s on and I had to use the bathroom, so I grabbed a towel, wiped up the floor and tossed it in front of the sink in the other room. Well, when I tossed it, I noticed that there was something brown that looked like a shoe string in it. Being funny, I screamed SNAKE. My husband and kids jumped on top of the beds sreaming and yelling “Get it, Get it” I’m laughing at them because they were so scared. I bent over the towel to actually see what was in it and dang if it wasn’t a snake. It looks up at me and hisses and a fork-it tounge come out and shakes at me! Then I really start screaming snake, snake! I WET MYSELF!(I do not like snakes at all)and they knew that I was for real this time. My husand, not coming to my rescue, yells at me to get the garbage can and put it over it to trap it. I say a few bad words at him and try to get him to understand that “he” is “the man” and he should be the one to trap the snake. My kids were screaming, My oldest daughter was yelling she wanted to take a picture of it and all I was thinking was this snake is between me and the door, and if the flash goes off will it scare the snake more and it come after me like the deer did in “Are we there yet”. Well,”I” trap the snake in the garbage can, with my husband still standing on the bed and my kids run to get the front desk attendant. The lady come in and takes the snake, kills it and returns to informs us that it was a baby copperhead. She asks us if we wanted to change rooms, my husband tells her that it was late(by this time it was 1:00am)and he did not want to move everything so “he” was ok. SHe leaves our room. I explain to him(in a nice, sweet, calm voice)that if there is a baby cooperhead, there is a BIG MAMA Copperhead somewhere near and me and the kids would not be staying in that room, we would be sleeping in the truck! He then decides that we should change rooms. The lady at the front desk changes our room to a room on the upper floor, kinda laughing about our situation. We get to the other room and we try to settle-in, it is now about 3:00am. We try to watch happy cartoons to forget about the snake. That works for my husband and kids, they fall asleep(for a little while)I keep watching cartoons and a dang GEICO commerical comes on, that stupid lizards tail looks like a snake wiggling around. Then everything starts looking like little snakes. Even on Sponge Bob-theres a little eel that looks like a snake. I start feeling like something is crawling on me, I can’t sleep so I go downstrairs and wait for them to wake-up. They come down around 8:00am and say that they can’t rest either. We speak to the new lady at the counter and explain that we would not be staying the 2nd night and she stated that the other lady told her what had happened and that she was sorry. Well, I was really expecting to be refunded(at least)for the 2nd night that we had pre-paid for and she said that she couldn’t do that and that we needed to speak to the manager that was out of town and he would get with us sometime next week. I kept calling and calling for a few weeks only to finally receive a letter from the hotel that stated that they were sorry for our “unwanted, un-invited guest” in our room,(never mentioned SNAKE) and offered us a free night stay. We NEVER took them up on the offer!
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Dusty Rhodes Haverty
June 16th, 2009
3:47 pm
My girlfriend (at the time) Elizabeth and I were in Paris for 3 days and then were taking the train to the South of France for the remainder of our week’s vacation. We wanted to go to the flea market located in the Northern outskirts of Paris and had taken the subway to the correct station. We started up the seemingly mile long escalator out of the subway up tp the street. I was in front and Elizabeth was next to and behind me when at the top, a man dropped his sunglasses onto the moving steps at the top and blocked the exit while he (seemingly) tried to pick them up for a while. I finally pushed him somewhat out of the way and we walked past. Elizabeth, being the smart woman she was, realized that her pocketbook felt light, and upon looking realized that her wallet and camera were gone. She exclaimed loudly, which made me realize “they” had gotten my wallet as well…..Very professional, quiet and quick. The strange part of the story is that when we got out onto the street, Elizabeth points to a guy walking about 6 feet away from us, and shouts “That’s him!!! That’s the guy who got our stuff!!”
Now I am not the bravest guy in the world, but I went up to him quickly and said “monsieur” while I put my hand on his shoulder to stop him—when he turned to me I could see my wallet under his arm and I grabbed it before he started to run off. Elizabeth took off after him down the street screaming bloody murder, while I was following her screaming that the guy might have a knife or anything and for her to stop! She finally did stop and was mad at me for not letting her continue on to beat the guy bloody and get her wallet, which we still did not have, and never did retrieve. Never made it to the flea market either—too bummed.
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Stephane
June 16th, 2009
4:22 pm
It was summer after the ending of the local neighborhood baseball season, the team accompanied with the families decided to take a trip down to the Georgia and South Caroline coasts visiting Tybee Island and Hilton Head Island. Tybee Island we had fun even after discovering that the shark fins in the water were actually, dolphin fins. We finally, ventured over to Hilton Head the beach was very crowded this particular day, and we followed all the beach rules setting as close to the life guard as possible. I kept a close watch on my then eight year old son who was playing beside me with a hermit-crab that I was totally afraid of, he leaves the hermit-crab next to me and ventures off to play in a water hole with some toddlers, after thinking he will be playing there for a minute I turned my attentions to the hermit-crab and then I discovered my son was nowhere in sight. I asked the group, those of who had skipped the temptations of entering the water if they had seen Cameron, all answered no…I approached the team in the waters who had slowly drifted from our direct view but still very near the lifeguard, all indicated they had not seen my son. I turned to walk just about five feet to the life-guard who was now moving back his chair due to the slow rise of the tide…I informed him that my eight year old son was missing and provided him with a brief description, dark curly hair, missing his two front teeth, grey and black swimming shorts and answers to Cameron.
Fear engulfed me from every angle I felt completely helpless knowing that I could not swim and would not be able to assist the volunteers who had now began to search the waters for him, as I fought back tears, fears, and visions of seen him floating face down in the water.
I ran as fast as I could up and down the beach like a deranged woman, Cameron, Cameron…No God…I would not leave this beach without him I thought…
My sister holding me as a sobbed hopelessly, strangers all standing holding me, the word spread like wildfire that a child was missing on the beach…each working together to help find my son…No word 15 minutes had passed it seemed like hours…
As the first lifeguard encouraged me to stay near him as he too awaited to hear of any sightings of Cameron. Finally, finally, Cameron was found safe and unharmed…life-guards found him frantically running along the north end of the beach…Later we learned that when Cameron left the water hole playing with the toddlers he walked to the beach to tell the other players about the hermit-crab but, says that they were too far out in the water and decided not to enter because he does not like the saltiness of the water, when he turned to come to where we were gathered he used a Kite as a maker to locate us on the beach, the kite we were playing with earlier, but he says that it was someone else’s kite and he started running hoping to find me..
When we left Hilton Head to return to our rented van someone had backed into the back of this brand new van denting it severely…I was to so ready to return home some much so I received a $250 speeding ticket..
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jo
June 16th, 2009
4:28 pm
anybody typin in ALL caps is immediately DQ”D
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bass stringerfish
June 16th, 2009
4:38 pm
At one point we lived in Baton Rouge and my wife was from Houston. We decided we would take our two small girls on a camping trip to Galveston Beach. So we loaded up the car and off we went envisioning a beachside camp site with the children playing at the beach while mom and dad relaxed in the warm July sunshine! Upon arrival, the first thing I noticed was a sign at our camp site that said “Beware of Snakes”. Should have been a clue. But no, we needed good ‘ol family fun! As the day progressed, it became darker and darker. By 5PM it was raining, storming and the wind was blowing so hard we were sure the tent was going to be blown away. Later we found that a tornado was in the area! The wind ripped a hole in the tent and the rain was coming through. Then the cooler over turned and soaked the floor and spilled all the food out on the floor shorting out the radio and the battery powered light. We didn’t feel safe leaving and we were stuck in the rainy wet tent with no edible food, no light and two scared kids. The rain was so bad we couldn’t get outside to light a fire. Of course during all of this, the two little ones had to go to the bathroom. So we wait until we felt the rain let up a tad bit and trudged through the wind and rain to the bathrooms and then back again. Oh and the snakes showed up on the walk path….
Now we are all freaked out by the snakes that might come in the tent, the children are scared and crying because its dark – and the snakes are out there, wind, rain, lightening and loud thunder going on everywhere – and its still only about 6PM! Finally We really never were able to sleep, but the rain, the wind and the fear of the snakes never stopped. When morning came, we packed what we could and left. We went into Houston to a Hotel looking exactly like you would imagine: wet, tired, terrible. My children were dragging and when we finally made it back home to Baton Rouge, we took them to the Doctor. One had strept throat and the other had Scarlet Fever! Honest to goodness, that was the last camping trip we have ever taken.
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Clay
June 16th, 2009
4:43 pm
My only vacation horror story isn’t that bad. In 1995 we were in Seaside, FL for my birthday. Hurricane Opal came up and we had to evacuate. It took us 17 hours to get home (we lived in Columbus, GA then). That trip should take about 4 hours. It was a horrible day. To make it worse, about 30 minutes after we got home, Opal (which had been following us) came through and knocked out the power. We were without power for about 2 days. That’s the worst story I’ve got.
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I hate complainers
June 16th, 2009
4:50 pm
My worst vacation was when I had a staycation and decided to open the AJC and I started ready how abunch or babies were complaining about getting mugged in Paris and how his girlfriend was more of a man the he was. Way to go bud, go ahead and save your wallet instead of getting your girlfiends stuff. Way to represent the male population. You should be banished to france. I guess we can all figure out why she is not his girlfriend anylonger. Probably got with the guy who stole her stuff that night.
Good luck with life
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SayWhat
June 16th, 2009
4:52 pm
My husband and I rented one of those beautiful “rustic,” furnished cabins in the Smoky Mountains. It seemed the perfect spot for a romantic night. The cabin had a loft bedroom upstairs, and the master bedroom had a hot tub in the bathroom. After we got settled, we decided to get in the hot tub. We had never used one before, so I decided we needed bubbles. I ran the water, then squeezed in about three big squeezes of dish liquid. Then I turned on the jets, and the bubbles began. Before it was over, it looked like an “I Love Lucy” episode with mountains of bubbles pouring over the sides of the tub onto the floor. We finally found a bucket and scooped up suds and threw them in the shower stall and washed them down the drain (along with all thoughts of romance.) When we did go to bed that night and things got really quiet, we began to hear a gnawing on the wall by the bed. Loud gnawing. At that point my husband nervously confessed, “I did see a rat trap behind the cabin.” So we moved to the loft bedroom. Within 15 minutes, we began to hear the gnawing in the wall again – whatever it was, was in the wall and followed us upstairs! We were very glad to see morning and didn’t stay a second night at the “romantic cabin.”
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bass stringerfish
June 16th, 2009
5:05 pm
Here’s another one…we lived in Tokyo on business for three years. Upon our return we flew from Tokyo to Honolulu. My wife was 9 months pregnant, so we stayed in Hawaii for a few days so she could get her rest. All was good until we went to leave Hawaii and return home. When we got to the airport, we were notified that there had been a change in the aircraft. We had first class seating for comfort of my wife and I asked specifically if we still had first class seats and was told that we did. Satisfied with the answer, I left to return the rental. Upon boarding the plane, we quickly found out that we were going to be seated in coach. When I asked what was going on they told us that there were not enough first class seats in this airplane so what they did was put those left over in coach with no one in between them, and we would get the same first class service. Now, this would have normally been “OK”…things happen. But I have a wife who was 9 months pregnant and I’ll try to be kind – she was 9 months big…we asked for some releif and were told no. So we sit in the coach seats. She can’t pick her feet up, the seat doesn’t recline and when they brought dinner, she could not even get the laptop tray down to support the plate. Now the crying starts….the flight attendant is zero help. She is crying like nuts and my two girls come over to see what is wrong…while this is happening, I notice that my children’s feet are BLUE…I panic and think they have lost oxygen or something, call the attendent, show her the feet and this is what she says..I swear I am not making this up “Oh, the chemical in the toilet overflowed and they must have stepped in it!”…What? Did I just her her say Chemical, Toilet, Stepped in? So I make her call someone to see if there are any issues that we should be aware of because this stuff is not coming off…my kids are now panicing, my wife is crying, we haven’t been able to eat, the movie screen is broken, the toilet is over flowed and its an hour into a 7 hour flight….one service that I found that did work, was the first class beverage service!
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Stinky Pete
June 16th, 2009
5:06 pm
Got the clap from a Tranny hooker
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Don Drapier
June 16th, 2009
5:12 pm
I was swimming in the ocean off the coast of Florida on my Honeymoon. I sand shark ripped my nuts off and my new wife cheated on me with the bartender in our hotel.
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ncgreybr
June 16th, 2009
5:24 pm
A friend and I were going to Europe. He booked the travel with a travel agency. The tickets would be waiting for us at each airport. We went to the Atl. airport and got the flight to NYC. The tickets were there to Brussels and we left. I had to come back before him. I went to the Paris Airport to the Air France counter to pick up my ticket for the flight to Brussels and on to the US. The lady behind the counter was most courteous and typed in my name. No response from the computer.. “Try spelling it$@**@^&#>” No response from the computer. “Let me see the screen.” She turned the screen to me and, sure enough, my name wasn’t on the flight and nothing vaguely resembling my name was on there either. I would have bought a ticket to Brussels but the flight was full. The lady said if I had known earlier that I would have been able to take a train to Brussels but now it was too late and, just in case there wasn’t a ticket waiting in Brussels, it would be better to be stuck in Paris.
I noticed several people looking at me strangely. It winds up that they were also waiting for tickets on that flight. NONE of us had tickets. I was so upset, being stranded in a foreign country, that I went into the rest room and threw up. One of the Air France Captains was in the rest room and took me under his wing, so to speak and took me back out to the counter.
I was able to book a flight back to NYC on Air France. The BEST flight I’ve ever had! And then on to Atlanta.
When I got home (several hours late) there was a mesasge on my answering machine from my friend still in Europe asking if I got home OK. It winds up that the travel agency had gone out of business while we were in Europe.
I was able to warn him and he was able to make arrangements ahead of time for his own departure.
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Penny Bee
June 16th, 2009
5:48 pm
When I was twelve and my brother was eleven, my family didn’t have a lot of money to spare. We didn’t often do family vacations that weren’t tied to visiting relatives (and I only recall us doing that a couple of times). So, my parents decided that we would all tag along to my dad’s national mathematical convention in Denver. Dad was presenting a paper, and the rest of us would sight-see, hang out at the hotel, and do whatever didn’t cost an arm and a leg. We would drive to Denver from Mississippi in our non-spacious and non-speedy AMC Hornet.
For some reason of which I am still unaware, the convention was scheduled in a winter month (I can’t remember exactly–it was either November or January). What I do remember exactly, was that the minute our family drove into Denver, there was a huge blizzard. We got to our hotel, but that was it. I am thinking that our family didn’t stay at the convention hotel either, but had probably selected a lower-price hotel to save money–I think this because at one point our hotel restaurant ran out of food because trucks couldn’t get to them through the snow.
In the meantime, the mathematicians’ convention went on with the show, and not being able to sight-see meant that my brother and I had to either amuse ourselves in our hotel room, or watch the presentations of mathematicians from around the nation. I had no idea what they were talking about, and as this was around 1980-1981, there was no cool PowerPoint or overhead computing technology. A few special effects would have gone a long way.
Because of the weather, my brother and dad caught colds. I remember our last night involved my mom and I eating a spaghetti dinner at a nearby Denny’s (spaghetti was all they had left, but at least they had food).
Luckily, the day after the conference the roads were cleared enough to allow us to pack into the Hornet and head back to Mississippi. If I recall correctly, I think we made it all the way back with only stops for gas and fast food.
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thomas cooper
June 16th, 2009
6:24 pm
we went on a vacation 4 day weekend at jekyl island resort {a clarion resort }on the north east side of jekyl stayin in a condo {4th of july weekend . we wernt told that u had to cross a burm of 3 foot arond bolder 12 ft tall and 20 ft wide jus to get out on to beach ,once we got out there on beach the condo was leaking large amounts of raw sewage out on beach ! when we tryed to get our money back jus to go to a nicer place away from the stinch the manager refused stating we shoulda asked about conditions before staying ,thanks clarion resort your the greatest ~
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Carrie L
June 16th, 2009
6:57 pm
I agree with Ms. Kolassa, why would the AJC want to run a contest based on who can post the winning complaint about vacation? We hear enough negative news why not post about the best or funniest experience that may inspire others? I am sure most have at some time experienced inconveniences and dissapointments during their vacation; since when does minor grievances make AJC worthy press or merit a prize? I also imagine anyone that has survived a natural disaster or terrorist attack while on vacation would have stories to top anything I or most could ever imagine complaining about. This blog is like complaining about spilling your champagne; vacation is a privilege not a necessity. Those of us fortunate enough to go on vacation, may want to celebrate and appreciate them for whatever they are- late planes, lost luggage, snakes, eating at Denny’s, and rooms with less than ideal ocean views included.
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Hal Gauldin
June 17th, 2009
12:38 am
Several weeks ago, my wife and I drove to Florida for our annual vacation at our condo in Daytona, Florida – the vacation that will forever be known in our family lore as “The Vacation from Hell!” This was a vacation that was months in the planning as we also invited my wife’s brother and his wife and our one year old nephew, along with my wife’s parents. Schedules had to be arranged and re-arranged, my wife postponed a much needed surgical procedure, and I took my final exams a week early all in an attempt achieve the seemingly impossible. Finally we were able to assemble all the pieces of the puzzle including cashing in a week of time we had banked so that we could have two condos on the same floor to accommodate the extended clan. My wife, her mother, and I innocently arrived in Daytona Friday night to get everything ready for the arrival of the rest of the crew. Saturday morning dawned and we made the trip to the airport to meet the flight from Nashville which delivered my in-laws right on schedule. The next morning, in a masterpiece of coordination and flurry of cell phone calls, my wife’s father surprised the whole family by driving in from just north of Savannah to catch up with us while we were exploring the local flea market (we had all been led to believe he was not going to be able to make the trip). Our triumph complete, we all saddled up and drove back to the condo with birds chirping our names and a double rainbow hovering over our destination. But God has a way of stepping in just when we are at the peak of our satisfaction with ourselves and our mastery of our own destinies. At approximately 6:00 pm, it began to rain. Now by rain, I don’t mean that it began to sprinkle and then steadily grew into the type of tropical shower we have all come to expect while visiting the beach in southern locations. No fellow travelers, I mean a full on monsoon! The kind of rain that prompts people living in Bangladesh to exclaim “Oh those poor people!” and sends their children scurrying into the streets to collect rupies for humanitarian relief. Some giant unseen hand had unzipped the heavens and released a torrential downpour that made it impossible to clearly make out the windshield wipers scraping impotently back and forth across the glass mere inches in front of our eyes. I began to feel a kinship with U-boat commanders who stand upon the bridge with trepidation as the boat submerges and the waves wash over the periscope as they descend into the briny depths. By the time we reached the condo, we looked back at the beginning of the storm with the eyes of grizzled veterans looking back on a ferocious battle, not knowing that war is only just beginning. By 9:00 pm, the wind had risen to 40 miles per hour and threatened to decapitate every palm tree in central Florida – not to mention the flying debris that equally threatened to decapitate every living soul that dared to venture out into the streets. These were not mere gusts of wind. This was a living vortex of ceaseless energy that sent NASA physicists and meteorologists scrambling to modify their now obsolete models of the effects of global warming. By 4:00 am, the satellite images on the weather channel made it clear that our vacation was about to become a week long ordeal. The satellite images that completely replaced regularly scheduled programming on every local channel revealed what could only be described as a stationary hurricane. A large system that covered virtually all of central Florida from coast-to-coast, rotated lazily in a counter-clockwise direction but moved neither north or south, east or west. It appeared so serene from space but, on the ground, the unceasing winds had begun to take their toll. Power lines began to fail and large areas began to lose electricity. Far worse in many areas, the water table had begun to rise into alarmingly positive numbers. Canoes and jet skis began to replace cars on many of the local roads. By Tuesday morning, the most timid residents of our building decided to cut their losses and head for higher ground. We were however, implacably committed to endure the record setting rainfall and subsequent flooding. Flight schedules and the complete impossibility of re-scheduling this fun old-fashioned family vacation forced us to make the best of a bad situation. Unfortunately, the best we could do was to sit and stare out the large plate glass windows as the flood waters continued to rise all around us. By Wednesday afternoon, I could not get the words of Forest Gump out of my head, “One day it started raining, and it didn’t quit for four months. We been through every kind of rain there is. Little bitty stingin’ rain… and big ol’ fat rain. Rain that flew in sideways. And sometimes rain even seemed to come straight up from underneath.” Four months or four endless days? I had lost track of time. Our sole source of entertainment was continuous replays of Baby Einstein and Wiggles videos run back-to-back-to-back in an attempt to keep our one year old distracted from the fact that he was trapped in a two bedroom condo with six adults who, although they all adored him, were not very pleased with the way their hard earned time off was being spent. At the end of the week we had survived 29.5 inches of rainfall (a new record for the area), power outages, severe wind damage, and a visit from the governor of Florida who showed up as the storm dissipated to declare the site a disaster area and present us all with much appreciated aid from the good citizens and children of Bangladesh. On the final morning of the “Vacation from Hell!”, we drove down International Drive on our way back to Interstate 95 for our northward journey home. Behind us the sun rose in the east in spectacular glory, just in time to provide the final slap in the face from a God who respects no human plans for a perfect vacation. We are all now back in our daily routines, my wife is about to undergo her surgery, and the only thing we have to show to our friends at home is the newspaper we picked up on our way out of Daytona. The headline is a single word in a large, bold font that perfectly describes the entire week – DISASTER!
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shalita
June 17th, 2009
5:18 am
Well we are about to leave from Michigan to California with a group of ladies 6. One of the ladies in the group decides to wave to everyone on the way out of town before we are scheduled to catch the plane an two hours away. We finally round her up and head to the airport. Due to our friends good-byes we are rushing up to our gate only to be turned away and told to catch the next plane at aprox 6 am. We bunk down with our luggage overnight in a uncomfortable airport seating with rollers in our hair. In the AM we catch I flight cause how can you miss it when you have spent the night at the airport? Anyway We board and head land in San Diego where take the metro to retrive our van rental, a lot of ladies and luggage. When we get to the rental car desk we pick out our vehicle and the mature lady of the group whips out her credit card only to have it rejected be cause it had just expired a day before our flight. We are stranded in San Diego so I whip out my Debit card which the ticket agent says must have a balance of 250.00 on it in order to secure the vehicle. I was expecting the direct deposit so I assure the ticket agent. We take the van and load all of our luggage. As we head to Escondido 2 hours from San Diego all traffic is backed up almost to a stand still. We turn on the local news, it is blazing hot and we are exhausted. We find out the reason. A woman is on the freeway in a (stand-Off) with police trying to take her on life! So we wait on the hot freeway till police clear to move and traffic starts moving. We arrive in Escondido a bit late and get to the church retreat campground. We take the van the next day in order to make sure the money is secure on our card. After aproximately the third day and attempt to get a local checking cash place to put money in the account. The Rental car place says our van is now considered stolen and we must return it immediately. The money never reached my account so we have to somehow wire the money into that account. After our week long fiasco back to the airport we return the van and I presume pay for the rental van. We board our plane back to michigan and land take the 2 hr trip home and our car starts wobbling on the side! We stop and realize we have a flat and cars are whipping by we get out to have it changed by an accompanied friend. We since wondered if we were suppose to go on that crazy trip!
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party pooper
June 17th, 2009
10:24 am
About half of these stories are just plain bad luck but the other half seem to involve at least some lack of planning and bad decisions.
And people need to remember that “super cheap”, “off the beaten path”, and “adventurous” type vacations can actually put your life in danger when you’re in some foreign countries. It all sounds fun and daring until something goes wrong.
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Matt
June 17th, 2009
10:41 am
Hey Hal,
When you go on vacation, particularly in Florida, wouldn’t it make sense to check the weather BEFOREHAND? Just in case there’s a hurricane coming?
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Robin
June 17th, 2009
10:54 am
Carrie and other naysayers (sp)
These are funny stories. Once you live through the vacation from hell, it becomes funny (most of them anyway – not when anything tragic happens of course). But the snakes, the rain, the car in pieces, etc. Funny stuff!
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Teresa
June 17th, 2009
2:01 pm
AJC,I love the blogs about your worst vacations.It has been a long time since I’ve enjoyed reading this much. This was truely a great idea. Keep up the good work .
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janet walker
June 17th, 2009
3:21 pm
December 2008 I went on the Carnival Glory from Port Canaveral, Florida. My drama began before I got to Florida. Plans were to leave at 5am to catch a 7:30am flight to Florida. Packed my clothes and took a cab at 4am to my girlfriends house to get transportation to airport. Put my luggage in the trunk and got into cab for ride to friends house. Arrived, took my bag out of trunk and went upstairs. Me and my girlfriends were talking about what a great time we would have. I went to get lipstick out of my pocketbook and couldn’t find my pocketbook nowhere. I didn’t panic and told my friends that it could be only one of two places. One, at home; two, in the cab. So I remained calm and called the cab company. They said the driver didn’t see my pocketbook in the cab, Still calm I said, “we’ll it must be home and when Carlos comes to pick us up we can go back to get my pocketbook. About ten minutes later I get a call from a young lady that got in the cab after me saying that she had my pocketbook. Good news, but she had been out partying and was intoxicated. I had to get my purse because all my id was in it. I had to have it to board the plane and boat. Panic set in, “oh my God, what if she goes to sleep”. I tried calling her back several times to no avail to find out where she lived. About ten minutes before Carlos was to arrive, I got her on the phone, got directions to her house and retrieved my pocketbook. Remember, always have contact info in your wallet and there are some good people in this world. She didn’t have to call me. Thank God she did, I had a great vacation.
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Sandy
June 17th, 2009
4:10 pm
We have traveled to myrtle beach every summer for the past 5 or 6 years. We found a large resort with something for everyone onsite. It was always clean with friendly staff so we never booked anywhere else when we were going to S.C. That changed last year as we booked later than normal and could not get a room at the usual place. They offered us a room next door at the company’s sister property. We assumed it would be ok and booked it. We also decided that we would drive my husbands new car since gas was more expensive instead of the s.u.v that we normally travel in. We arrive only to find out that our room is not ready,thay told us to maybe go to the water park and wait. We opted to go back into town. We get a call 3 hours later saying our room is ready. We open the door to a dirty room with no other options in town as it was nearing the July 4th holiday. Back to town to purchase cleaning supplies as we got no assistance from the staff. We finally get back to the room and turn on the air conditioning to find it is loud enough to be heard outside the room and vibrated the floor around it. Maintainence would check it as soon as possible(next afternoon) We decided to turn in for the night and make the best of it since tomorrow would be another day. 3a.m and the fire alarn goes off,we are on the 10th floor and scurry downstairs to wait with the other guests only to have it start pouring rain as soon as we stepped outside. 2 hours in the rain to find out it was someone”playing with the alarm on the 3rd floor. We went to the water park first thing after breakfast,stayed inside for 15 minutes only to be told it was closing due to an “accident in the lazy river”,no problem,we will go to the beach. The beach consisted of alternating days of sharks and stingrays so the life guards would not let anyone in the water,understandably so. We were so happy to be returning home after a week of things like this. We are driving thu Columbia at 12 noon discussing lunch options and how at least we did not have to spend so much on gas thanks to the new car. AT that very moment,we drive under an overpass and a huge block of wood is hurled from th top. We essentially drove right into it shattering the windshield in a million pieces and spraying glass all over me and my son who was seated behing me.My sunglasses saved my eyes.We pulled off onto the next exit to call police and insurance agents as were in very heavy traffic. i walked into the convenience store to ask if there was a carwash or someplace with a vacum nearby so we could clean out the shattered glass. She asks is I need an ambulance since I am bleeding,I told her no and explained what had just happened. She proceeds to tell me that we are driving a nice car in a bad neighborhood and we should leave and drive up one more exit for assistance. I walk back out and see a van full of men staring at my husband while he is talking on his cell and look in th other direction to see 2 pit bull dogs chained to a fireworks stand. By then,my husband has gotten instructions to drive to a safe light auto glass store and get the windshield replaced. The gps still worked so we started driving the 8 miles to the store when it starts raining so hard it was caving what was left of the windshield in. The folks at the safe light place were great and it gave us several hours to pick glass out of my arms,legs and feet. We were finally able to start back on our way after a 500 dollar deductible. So much for our gas savings! We did not go to South Carolina this year,went to Florida instead!
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Julie
June 17th, 2009
4:12 pm
Most of these stories must be from people who don’t know how to plan for a vacation! How can it take months of planning for a trip to Daytona? Paris, maybe but Daytona! GMAB! I don’t get it! Oh, and always check the weather especially if you are going to travel during hurricane season!
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SayWhat
June 17th, 2009
5:11 pm
Carrie L – lighten up, girl. This is not “complaining,” it’s story telling. Hate to use a tired cliche about you, but “there’s one in every bunch.”
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LeeDawg
June 17th, 2009
7:34 pm
Mary Jane
Where is your spirit? – If people didnt travel they wouldn’t have these wonderful stories to tell.
Maybe you are one that has to have all your ducks in a row or its not fun at all.
The real fun of a vacation is creating memories – and these stories are those memories that last a lifetime.
Lossen Up Mary Jane
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cp
June 17th, 2009
8:52 pm
Oh, blah blah to those who don’t like the topic. DON’T READ THEM. The guy in the St. Lucia hospital who wanted to kill the author made me crack up!
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bigguy
June 17th, 2009
9:06 pm
The worst trip I ever took was my honeymoon! We went to Mexico, where my wife promptly ate or drank something that gave her da runs for the entire week. Both times I have touched her in the 23 years since I can’t help but think of that trip.
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Candace Crutchfield
June 18th, 2009
2:34 pm
Houston, we’ve got problems!
The year was 1989. Our son was 15 years old. We were making a trip “out West” and Houston, TX was one of our planned stops. The NY Mets would be in town playing the Astros and a then untroubled Darryl Strawberry was our son’s favorite player. Because we all were baseball fans, we thought it would be fun to visit another MLB stadium. Little did we know …
Tired from driving all day and not knowing our way around the area, we asked about the public transportation system when we checked into the hotel just after dusk and were told the bus stop was conveniently located right across the street. We hurriedly took the suitcases to our room and went to the bus stop where we waited for an hour, only to be informed by the bus driver that the bus stop to the Astrodome was back across the street down a few blocks. What he didn’t tell us was that it would take over an hour to get there due to that particular route which took us right downtown Houston and stopped at every other corner.
Finally we arrived and stood in line for tickets. It was a sell-out with standing room only available. Our son was taking his turn carrying the very large and heavy video camera. My husband and I made it through the turnstile only to hear our son calling out behind us that they wouldn’t let him in with the camera. A security guard had been summoned to explain the situation and suggested we return to our car to leave the camera there. Not an option for us bus riders. After a good bit of “discussion” (my husband said the guard must have gotten tired of hearing me), our son was allowed through and we were lead to the security office. I continued to plea our case and the guard finally relented, telling us to go but warned us to keep the camera in the bag at all times.
The game was already in progress, the Mets were in the outfield but Darryl was nowhere to be seen. Another fan told us that it had been announced earlier that Darryl would not be playing due to a hurt finger. Swell…
Deciding to leave early to beat the crowd, and because we were tired of standing, we left after the 7th inning stretch. We had only seen three innings of play, hardly worth the effort and expense it had taken to get us to this point.
Expecting to see a line of buses waiting in the parking lot, we were directed instead to a bus stop a mile down the road. It was my turn to carry the camera. Arriving at the stop and reading the schedule, we discovered it would be another thirty minute wait. Time to pass the camera bag to my husband.
This particular bus stop, which had no seats or benches, was located beside a large marshy area and the mosquitoes that inhabited it were plentiful, very hungry and definitely Texas sized. The swatting and slapping gave us something to do for the next thirty minutes and the diversion of a passing car from which raw eggs were thrown our way temporarily distracted us from scratching the bites covering us.
Not a moment too soon the bus arrived and we thankfully boarded. The return route was different from the one that got us there and had fewer stops. We were grateful until we were told we were at the end of the line and would have to get off. We were over a mile from the hotel. It was close to midnight. We had no idea what was between us and the hotel but what could we do but start walking. I don’t remember who was carrying the stupid video camera at this point.
In what seemed like forever, we finally spotted the lights of our hotel and quickly picked up the pace, anxious to be the first one to claim the shower. July 3 temperatures in Houston, accompanied by countless number of yolk-covered mosquito bites tend to make a person long for such a thing.
Safely back in our hotel room, everyone showered and began to feel somewhat better. The local news was on TV and the sports segment showed a reporter interviewing none other than Darryl Strawberry as he discussed the injury to his pinkie. My husband was ready to show the TV screen his own injured middle finger but thought better of it as our son was taking it all in.
We weren’t sorry to leave Houston that next morning but what did hurt was seeing in the not-so-distant horizon the larger than life Astrodome. Had we just known how close (as a crow flies) we were to it, we could have easily driven ourselves to the game. At least then we would have had a car to return the video camera to and that poor security guard would have been spared.
Candace
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DLink
June 19th, 2009
2:12 am
I’d so love to vote on these stories as I read them!!!
I’ll abbreviate my car trip to Canada in a station wagon to the highlights… Take this as a warning people! Big family traveling long distance with kids from 10-16 years old. One parent driving, other staying home working.
OK, here we go. Spitballs out the back window of the station wagon: With huge McD’s cannon straws, back in the day… Many a bird finger and cussing driver later, that got put off… we had a dozen straws hidden for just such a situation. The owls, still kinda bother us today… Folks never found out about that one. A row of baby owls on a branch that let us walk up to them with a machete (found one) and we all figured they’d move, birds always do, right? Nope, took down the whole row (hotel, middle of nowhere, wooded area). Same hotel had a shack of a game-room with quarter machines. Pried it open and played running people over black and white game where the stick figures became crosses. All night long. We just wanted to play that new game, and it was fun. I’ll try to speed this up a bit.. Older kids rolled the wedding gift car. Wrecked some rental dirt bikes after coming across bear cubs up in Canada, needless to say, mama bear came around and high-speed escape led to damage. 3 speed bicycle going down a temp monster hill at a construction site/turned killer dirt track, bent the rim, and some frame. Antique bullets discovered and stripped down for fun gunpowder to burn. I’m thinking I was around 12 at the time.
So, in fact, this was the best vacation in my life. Looking back, though, I can’t help not stopping laughing. We were a rolling wrecking ball, and I’m quite sure there is a different side of this coin.
Still not sure if we’d ever be accepted across the border, but God Bless our mother for not killing us all. And for keeping dad from finding out some thing that would’ve gotten us killed. You have been warned.
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DLink
June 19th, 2009
3:23 am
Don’t think I’m not watching the complaining ^ there. I’ve had a Georgia judge look me in the face and ask me exactly how old I was. I never forgot that either. Some folks just haven’t been around long enough to find out some things, and this is as good a place as any to learn.
It’s also one of the best places to learn: In the context of the story. True stories. So in all humbleness, STFU, (shut up) and listen to what people have to say. It’s a simple thing about learning how to avoid bad situations on a vacation really. We’re enjoying the growing pains of others, as in Misery loves company.
My sincerest apologies, for the interruption.
Do tell your story. BTW did you know the angle of a 2X4 across the back is the difference between the breaking of the back or the board? AKA, I’d like to relax here and learn some interesting stuff. A lot of It I know, some is new to me. On with the stories, I like them.
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Easier to drive
June 19th, 2009
5:53 am
Its unfortunate that personal service is no longer par of the job description. BTW – its only 7 hr drive to Orlando from Atlanta. And its an easy drive. Leave 1 day earlier, stay at a motel for the night before the cruise and get to the port early the next morning. The drive back isnt a bad one either.
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Susan McElrath
June 19th, 2009
7:41 am
My husband and I got “buddy passes” on an airline from a relative. We planned a trip to Hawaii, even paying a few hundred dollars down on a nice place to stay there. We flew uneventfully from Atlanta to Dallas on the first leg of the trip. Then the disaster started! Just before boarding the flight to Honolulu a group of about 40 passengers showed up at the gate. Their flight on another airline had been cancelled so they were booked on our flight. Since we were using buddy passes we were bumped from the flight. After spending all day in the airport we made it on a flight to LA, hoping to get on a flight to Honolulu the next day. After spending all the next day at LAX we decided we’d never get there, much less get home on time. We booked a flight back home and went to Callaway Gardens instead. We still have never been to Hawaii! Total $$ for our non-vacation:
$300+ for the buddy passes
$90+ cheap hotel near LAX
$300+ deposit on accommodations in Hawaii we never used
$50+ for calls to the relative to see about available flights (this was in 1999 before we had cellphones)
Ouch!
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Susan McElrath
June 19th, 2009
7:52 am
Here’s another one from my travel disaster files:
Our extended family camps together every year. We have a blast and wouldn’t miss it for anything! There are now 16 of us on this trip. Usually we go to Vogel State Park but one year we went to Unicoi. That particular year there was some kind of tropical system that somehow stalled out right over Unicoi. We set up camp on Thursday. My immediate family tent camps, all six of us in a good-size tent (but not quite big enough!). Friday morning the rain started and it did not stop. Rain rain rain, I think they ended up having like six inches the three days we were there! Everything was wet wet wet. We had three campsites together and had tarps strung over everything! We looked like a camp of gypsies or something! Nothing got dry Even the board games, puzzles and magazines we brought were soggy from the humidity. I walked down to the bathroom and narrowly missed being hit by a huge limb of a tree falling. But perhaps the worst part was the last night, one of my kids threw up in the tent! We got it cleaned up and guess what! Another kid threw up. Repeat! Gross. I ended up sleeping in our van with our wet, smelly dog! We still go camping every year!
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Linda
June 19th, 2009
8:48 am
I’m laughing out loud at some of these stories. (But writers, keep it simple and short!) I agree with SayWhat — these stories are FUN and won’t affect someone’s decision about whether to go on a trip. Sheesh.
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Sherree Buchanon
June 19th, 2009
9:38 am
My son was about 10 and he and I, a single mom, drove to Disney World in Orlando. Last day we went to our last park and then we started the drive home that afternoon. I had planned to drive on through to Atlanta but I got so tired. Nothing would help and it was after midnight. With no one to help me drive I decided we might should stay overnight somewhere. We were still in Florida and not in GA yet. We got a room and walked in there and there were roaches or water bugs or whatever they call them all over the place! Bathroom, bedroom…..everywhere! That woke me up really good! I went back to the clerk and got a refund and we started our drive home again and made it all the way to Atlanta with no problems!
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Michelle Abney
June 19th, 2009
12:48 pm
When my daughter was six months old we flew from Phoenix to Memphis to spend a week with my dad who was marrying my now step-mother. My sister and her fiance’ were also on the flight. My daughter, being six months old, was starting to get her first teeth. As parents know, sometimes fever and diarea will accompany this. The day we were leaving my daughter’s fever was down and she seemed to be feeling fine. Shortly after takeoff, they served us breakfast. Not sixty seconds later my daughter proceded to projectile vomit all over my future brother in-law and his breakfast. I reach in the diaper bag only to realize that while I had thrown in plenty of diapers, I forgot a change of clothes. I go into the TINY airplane bathroom to clean up my daughter, change her diaper and since I have no clothes I wrapped her in my sisters down coat. (It’s the end of November, by the way. Not too warm!) We get to Dallas to change flights. On the train to our gate I am cradling her in my arms and everyone in saying, “Ahhhh! What a precious baby.” Not seconds later, as I am looking down lovingly at my child, her mouth opens and she smacks me in the face with vomit! At this point my sister and her fiance’ are very frustrated with me because, here again, I didn’t pack any clothes for her in her diaper bag and my sister’s down coat is getting covered in vomit. We board our connecting flight to Memphis and are on the home stretch and all the sudden I hear what sounds like not-so-solid poop coming from my sick child. Needless to say, it came out the top and the sides of her diaper and is now all inside my sisters down coat (the only thing I have to put her in)!!!! I once again head to the TINY plane bathroom to clean up, not only my daughter, but the now-poopy coat. While in the bathroom, I look in the mirror to see that when she projectiled on my face it made the mascara run. I intintively lick my finger to wipe it when I taste something extremely bitter. I then realize that I have diarea on my hands. At this point I begin to ball my eyes out!! Thank goodness my daughter was now feeling much better. As we exit the gate to meet my dad, I hand him his filthy granddaughter wrapped in a stinky down coat that I had cleaned the best I could with what I had. My sister and her fiance’ were now not speaking to me! My dad was married the next day and I stayed home with my teething daughter while everyone went out and celebrated. I probably should have just stayed home!
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Natalie
June 19th, 2009
1:19 pm
Back in January of this year my boyfriend and I took a long drive from Atlanta to Las Vegas. We had an amazing time seeing many parts of the country that neither of us had ever seen before. The long drive itself was just as much a part of the trip as the few nights we stayed in Las Vegas. We saw things like giant wind torrents in coming through Oklahoma and SNOW (which is a big deal to Atlanta natives!) coming through Flagstaff, Arizona. Almost the entire trip was just perfect … loads of fun …
UNTIL the VERY LAST NIGHT of the journey. We had stopped in Memphis to catch some sleep before the last leg of our very long journey. We checked into a hotel and started getting ready to settle in for the evening. My boyfriend decided to take one last peek out of the window to check on our car. The car was SIDE WAYS and had been moved several feet. We had been at the hotel less than TEN MINUTES when the car was involved in a hit and run accident in the parking lot!!!
The Memphis police department was as helpful as they could possibly be and exceedingly polite. Kudos to the Memphis police department for their amazing patience!
I won’t bash the hotel we stayed at in Memphis by giving it’s name, but I will warn others to do some research before deciding on a place to stay in Memphis.
Our car was totaled, but we were able to drive it back to Atlanta once we taped stopped and bought some duck tape to keep the door closed and the rain out of the car. This was a great trip up until that last night. If nothing else we have an interesting story to tell : )
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Melissa
June 19th, 2009
2:10 pm
My husband retired from the Navy in San Diego, CA, and we decided to take a “family vacation” crossing the country back to our home in Georgia. We were in 2 separate vehicles; my husband was driving our Suburban and pulling our 27ft travel trailer, and I was driving a 37ft “fixer upper” RV which we’d bought from friends. Our travel party consisted of my husband, our sons (13 & 8 at the time) our daughters (12 and 3 at the time) and I. We struck out from San Diego on Memorial Day, 2004. We got as far as the lava fields in the desert near Barstow, CA when the RV began to handle poorly and make odd noises. The kids were all in the back playing games, and OF COURSE, no one had on a seatbelt (lesson learned!). As it began to handle poorly, I screamed for all of them to get buckled and hang on! Thankfully, we did not crash as I feared, but the RV suddenly lost all power and I had to drift over to the side of the road. My husband pulled over on the side of the road just ahead of me w/the Suburban & trailer. We exited the RV, looked underneath, and found that the drive shaft had broken completely IN TWO!!!!! It was 113 degrees in the desert. There were no rest stops near, so we had to abandon the RV in search of civilization. We found a restaurant a few miles up the road and used our cell phone to call a wrecker for the RV. We met him there, and he hauled it to a repair shop (at a cost of about $250). The guys at the repair shop took a look at it and told us it would cost $2,500 to repair, and the part would not arrive for 2 weeks! As we were BURNING UP from the heat and all the kids were cranky, we made an instant decision to sign the RV over to the shop and leave it there forever! We all loaded into the Suburban and proceeded to the nearest K.O.A. for the night. When we arrived there and went into the travel trailer, we were met be the FOULEST odor! In the melee of getting the vehicles off the road when the drive shaft broke on the RV, my husband had run over a small road sign and it had pierced the black water tank in the trailer!!! The floor was splintered right beside the bunks where our boys slept. Of course, no one could repair it that night, nor for the duration of our trip. We had to beat it down as best we could with a mallet, and cover it with duct tape. The trailer’s bathroom & shower were out of service for the duration of the trip, so we had to rely on bathhouses for personal hygeine and other uses until we got home! We finally arrived home 6 days after leaving San Diego…exhausted and completely broke!!! No more “fixer upper” RV’s for us!!!
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ADL
June 19th, 2009
9:48 pm
Been on a lot of vacations, some bad, most of them good. I was always glad to get home and prouder still that I can spell and use good grammar when I do.
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Carol McNair
June 20th, 2009
8:39 am
After a beautiful fall evening wedding at the end of September in 1995, my new husband and I left in our motor home for an eight day trip along the Gulf Coast. We spent three absolutely gorgeous days at Panama City Beach and then headed west, with our ultimate destination being New Orleans. At the time Hurricane Opal was forming in the Gulf. The nice weather was holding though so we continued on our way stopping in Biloxi to visit the casino. After holding our own with the slot machines and having a wonderful dinner, we walked out the door into a torrential downpour. We got back to our motor home, dried off and turned on the TV to find out what was going on with the weather. The weatherman announced that Hurricane Opal was closer to the coast but actual landfall was still unknown. It could be anywhere between New Orleans and Fort Walton Beach. We went to bed with the plan that we would make our decision on what to do next in the morning. During the night the winds became much stronger and blew the rain into our air conditioning vents, ultimately soaking our bed and the benches in the kitchen area. We decided then to turn around, go back to Mobile and head north hoping to spend the last few days of our honeymoon in a drier area. Needless to say , when we arrived in Mobile, officials had decided to evacuate as many people as possible away from the storms fury. We ended up in bumper to bumper traffic for nearly eight hours just trying to get to Montgomery. We finally reached Montgomery were we decided just to go home to Lilburn. The rest of the story is history. Hurricane Opal followed us all the way home and New Orleans escaped her destruction. If we had gone on to New Orleans as planned, we would have been just fine.
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BMR
June 20th, 2009
8:44 am
First of all, DO NOT ever book through Cheap Caribbean.com. This on-line travel site is deceiving and has no idea what is really going on with the resorts that they advertise and book for. We booked our vacation from hell earlier in 2009 for a May get-away to Jamaica. After reading numerous reviews on Trip Advisor, we were confident that we had made the right decision-Club Ambiance, Jamaica. In the world of traveling, code words need to be established for reviewers and bloggers. Instead of “excellent staff” and “very accommodating”…The reviews for this dump should have read “staff can get you every drug imaginable” and “swingers paradise”. Cheap Caribbean had rated our hotel a 3 star, but in all actuality we have camped in better conditions. Our room was very outdated, filled with creepy bugs, and extremely unsanitary. (No lie, we found clumps of hair on the floor and in the shower after the maid had cleaned-GROSS!). Our shower was suspect and we never knew what type of water we were going to get. Every morning, you woke up to the glorious smell of sewage-which was enough to make you gag. Our toilet wouldn’t flush and we did not have a working hair dryer. All of these issues were brought to the staff’s attention- but to no avail…The Hotel had random guests which made it very unsafe as well. At night, we would move all of the furniture in front of the door to ease my fears. Regardless, I didn’t sleep much over the entire trip…
The hotel staff were obnoxious and rude. Once they discovered that we were not going to buy pot/cocaine, they ignored us. It took forever to get pre-made drinks, and we often stood for 20+ minutes waiting for anything (the resort was not near full capacity). One of the hotel’s vendors took money from me to make something for my son. He promised to return, but of course never did. Their was a small local bar that played music so loud our room vibrated-which only added to the nightmare. Cheap Caribbean bragged about the beaches and other aspects of this resort. What beaches? This hotel was in a man made cove with sand that is not even indigenous to Jamaica. The resort had signs for a nude beach, but that didn’t seem to matter. People were barely dressed around the entire resort. I am 30 and in pretty good shape. I guess you could say that I wasn’t expecting to have to walk around on my vacation staring at my feet.
I could go on describing this vacation for ever. We have tried to contact Club Ambiance and Cheap Caribbean with pictures of the clumps of hair and our bed bug bites, but they are ignoring us. Word of mouth is such a large part of the travel industry, so I have decided to continue telling everyone I can about our experience. If I can stop one person from going to this “resort”, their time and hard earned money will not be wasted like ours!
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dannette walley
June 20th, 2009
9:49 pm
what a disaster
a vacation from hell
a great time for family bonding
better u than me
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Patrick
June 21st, 2009
2:33 pm
I went to Georgia.
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Peabody McGee
June 22nd, 2009
2:37 am
Good lord.
My vain attempts at reading some of this nonsense have reminded me of a longstanding wish of mine: that people were doomed to speak the same way they write. If they were, I’m convinced that over half the population would sound like they had Down Syndrome.
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Karen
June 22nd, 2009
1:47 pm
Oh, what a Drizzle is a perfect description of a vacation gone wrong! I loved it! How appropriate for Hal and his family if they win…and go BACK to FL. LOL
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the man
June 22nd, 2009
5:43 pm
pretty good story.but when the snake hissed it kind of scared the f****** hell out of me
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Cara
June 22nd, 2009
10:21 pm
SNAKE…
Still laughing at “my husband not coming to my rescue”.. “my husband still standing on the bed”… LMAO
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Dale
June 22nd, 2009
10:23 pm
I loved reading the stories. Granted some of them were difficult to understand but I enjoyed reading about everyone’s adventures. Thank you AJC.
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Barbara
June 23rd, 2009
7:26 am
This sounds like my honeymoon 28 years ago!!
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Greg
June 23rd, 2009
8:00 am
Rats: Welcome to the islands! Exotic, yes?
Rain: “Bull Durham”: “Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometimes you get rained out…”
Snakes: Copperheads don’t take care of their young like mammals and they certainly don’t hunt people.
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rjs.sanchez
June 23rd, 2009
9:37 am
123456
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Marq James
June 23rd, 2009
9:41 am
Next time try St. John Unites States Virgin Islands
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Rhonda
June 23rd, 2009
10:18 am
SNAKE……I can only imagine the husband on the bed screaming….LOL!!!
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Shannon
June 23rd, 2009
10:42 am
Snake….This story is hilarious!! I can definitely visualize the dad standing on the bed! I thought this kind of stuff only happened to me and my family!!
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jamie
June 23rd, 2009
11:25 am
this one has my vote
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Stacy
June 23rd, 2009
1:58 pm
You have my vote!
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Just Peachy
June 23rd, 2009
3:55 pm
I think whoever is picking the winners needs to read them all Thought there was better ones then those three
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sponder
June 23rd, 2009
4:32 pm
Very disappointed at the fact that the baby cooperhead was killed…that was not necessary.
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Kim
June 24th, 2009
9:19 am
I work with Missy and know her family and this story is still funny.
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MICHELLE
June 24th, 2009
9:48 am
OMG REMINDS ME OF THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF…. WELL MELISSA I GUESS
YOU WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU HOLLA ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU
DID NOT SEE!!!!! TOOO FUNNY COPPERHEAD GOOD ONE I HOPE THIS WIN SOUNDS
LIKE YOU CAN USE A NEW SNAKECATION OPPS I MEAN VACATION LOOOL
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ResacaJoe
June 24th, 2009
10:05 am
My wife and I did a trip to Asheville and Blowing Rock NC via the Blue Ridge Parkway last weekend. Temps on the parkway were in the 70s and on Mt Mitchell it was 63degrees. Returned home Sunday and it was 99
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Sue
June 24th, 2009
11:19 am
I too am a Georgia native and I can’t stand the heat! We are headed to Maine on Saturday for a week. Temps there in the low to mid 70’s!
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Brian
June 24th, 2009
2:36 pm
I liked this one until his pointless Global Warming Comment
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Candy Lady
June 24th, 2009
3:13 pm
“Oh those poor people!” and I am not even from New Orleans…
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Nicky
June 24th, 2009
4:33 pm
We’re going to Alaska for three weeks! By the way, Seattle is usually dry in the summer and cool but can and usually does get a week or two of 90s. Considering most homes are not air conditioned there (even very high end ones) it is miserable. I spend several months a year there so I know this first hand.
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IC Atlanta
June 24th, 2009
6:37 pm
I was on the Parkway last weekend too. 12:30pm last Sunday on Linville Viaduct 70 degrees – got back to Atlanta and it was in the 90s at night.
Highlands is only 2 hours away and at least 10 degrees cooler. Also suggest hitting the Parkway around the Waynesville area. It is maybe 2.5 hours away and you get above 5,000 feet wonderfully cool compared to Hotlanta.
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WILLIAM
June 25th, 2009
8:11 am
The author of this story is trying to hard for a laugh. I’m pretty sure that hurricanes don’t just pop up without any warning.
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Louise Crowley
June 25th, 2009
8:45 am
I was there that same week! No warning – just torrential rain, road closures, more rain. Have been there for a hurricane – the rains for this were worse because it lasted so-o-o-o long.
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Lisa Geeter
June 25th, 2009
10:48 am
We planned this vacation for weeks. Five days and four nights in a very fancy Panama City Beach Condo. My husband, son, daughter, her boyfriend, and our family friend were all driving down together. We thought we would be extra smart and have some home repairs completed while we were away. I dreamed of coming home to a clean updated kitchen each day we were away.
The night before we were to leave a thunderstorm took out the power making in impossible to pack and get things ready.(taking us off schedule) Our family friend was an hour late (taking us off schedule) The morning of our outing our son woke up with a stomach virus and was sick the entire day. Nothing says fun like traveling with a six year old throwing up for seven straight hours in a car! (schedule? schedule? what is that?)
We made it to the condo only to discover that they had overbooked several families and people were standing in line to talk to managers. Luckily, we were okay and made it to our rooms only to discover that the air condition returns were right in front of our doors making the temp about 110 everytime you opened the door.
The next day our daughter got the stomach virus and was sick all day.
The next day someone keyed our daughter’s new car. In a secured parking area no less! We were left to assume that our fellow travelers were to blame.
Our family friend, who has no children, endured more than enough “family time” with our kids to ensure she will never ever have any children.
The last day, the traveling home day, I had the stomach virus and had just a lovely lovely ride all the way home.
Everyone was sunburned, everyone was tired, by the end everyone was sick! We stragled home barely speaking to each other and just glad to be back in Georgia!!!!
My only hope was my newly painted kitchen….did that work out? Uh, no….no it did not….totally wrong color and not even finished. Our entire house smelled like paint and all our kitchen belongings were sitting out over the entire house. It was a mess!
I have vowed to never ever take another vacation. It is just simplier to stay on the routine and not tempt the fates!
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LK
June 25th, 2009
11:57 am
It’ called Hotlanta for a reason y’all. Especially my fellow natives! How many years have we been complaining about it? For me it gets worse the older I get. I’m into flowing water & falls-any recommendations?
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bbb
June 25th, 2009
12:31 pm
LK if you want waterfalls go to Highlands/Cashiers. They have more waterfalls in their county than anywhere in the country. And it is the highest point in the SE so you will be cool as well. I drove up to Murphy this past weekend and could feel the stress and sweat just leave me as I got off 400. Get out of town, support your local GA cities with tourism, and enjoy the slower pace of life. The rat race gets hot sometimes! Lake Vogel and Winfield Scott above Dahlonega/Suches are great areas to picnic and even paddleboat!
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Katie
June 26th, 2009
9:29 pm
Went to Wilderness At The Smokies and loved it! Already planning a return trip next month. They had everything you could ask for; indoor water park, 2 outdoor water parks, restaurants, arcades and they are close to the Tanger Outlets shopping mail – my favorite shopping place!
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Martha
June 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
Flew into Orlando, to vacation with my husband, who drove down a week before. Went to a hotel, ate dinner, went swimming. Back into room, fell and broke my Femur in 3 places, had surgery, spent the next 4 weeks in a rehab, learning to walk. Not funny but, I think it is prize worthy.
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pete
June 29th, 2009
12:42 pm
i should have sent it to mo
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John OTC
June 29th, 2009
12:54 pm
I hope you got your eye checked out again after you got back home…
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Veronica
June 29th, 2009
1:28 pm
The story that won was good but I can top it – week long trip to Cozumel in 2001 at a 5 diamond dive resort. Two days before I left, I tripped over an umbrella getting out of the car and bashed my knee cap falling on to the asphalt parking lot, the next day my aunt died from cancer. Then arriving in Cozumel our room wasn’t ready but if we would pay more, the room would be ready – no thanks so we were taken to a room that had a 6 inch gap all the way around the set-in A/C unit and a lizard had just darted inside. I refused the room so after some rolling of eyes, stomping of my size 7.5 sandals and all my best spanish cuss words, we were moved to a casita on the other side of the property – a small studio like unit. And it was a gorgeous property right on the beach, highly recommended. To make a long story short here is the list of incidents in order during our stay – near miss with a large spider as I stepped into the shower, I fell off the step to the sunken living room and bashed same injured knee into stone coffee table, stung by sea wasps, feel asleep in a lounge chair at the pool and stung by ants, pushed off a catamaran before I was ready w my dive mask and took in a mouth/nose full of sea water, my 13 yr old son got montezuma’s revenge from the one thing I didn’t think of – lettuce on his club sandwich from room service, lost my balance while wading in the beach and fell onto a sea urchin which left several quills in my left hand which feels like shards of glass – the pain is excruciating and then the panic not knowing if the quills are poisonous, crashed into a tree by my horse which again re-bashed my already repeatedly injured knee to the point the taxi driver didn’t want me in his cab to return me to the hotel bc of the blood running down my leg and that same night with my good knee almost walked right into a tarantula crawling on a half wall walkway to our casita (missed him by inches) and finally, the resort misplaced our airline tickets/itinerary leaving us no way to return home. It took over 45 min of panic, spanish cuss words, and all the eye rolling I could muster for them to locate our documents. But despite everything, it was a gorgeous location and a great vacation!
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Elizabeth Thomas
June 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
My most romantic trip with my now husband had to be when we drove from Pittsburgh, PA to Mrytle Beach. I know it does not sound like much, but it was fun. We spent time on the beach and other places and had a really good time. We spent the whole weekend there and it was so simple. No stress. He decided we were going to go and we went. Although, on our way back home we ran into a rain storm and I actually had to move the windshield wiper with my hand outside of the window. I know you had to be there but it is one of those stories we tell now and laugh and that is really what its all about.
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Just a comment
June 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
Veronica – I think the difference is the winner won because all of her things were unavoidable and believable and not exagerrated. In your case, “near misses” with bugs and ant bites and you own loss of balance many times, including loss of tickets might qualify you as clumsy and unorganized. Sounds like most of the things that happened to you were your own fault. I don’t think “5-star” places have the issues your hotel had. Nice story though.
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Amy
June 29th, 2009
2:06 pm
When we were dating each other, my then-boyfriend (now husband) and I had this running joke about me getting my hair cut short. Jason likes my hair shorter, I like it longer. So one day, he asked me to cut my hair, and I said, jokingly, “I’ll cut it short when you ask me to marry you.” Of course, I wasn’t expecting to get engaged anytime soon whenever I made that comment!
Jason invited me to go to Alaska with him on a cruise. The second night on the boat was our first formal dress-up night. After dinner Jason suggested we go back to our stateroom to rest, so back we went to the stateroom, hand in hand. When we got there, he went to use the bathroom. I started changing into t-shirts and shorts. Jason got out of the bathroom, took one look at me, and said, “Put your dress back on!! Why are you changing?” I thought it was a little bizarre that he told me to change back into my dress, but I did as asked.
Then Jason grabbed my hand and led me over to the living room. He pulled me close, looked me in the eyes, and said, “I think you’re going to have to get your hair cut short.” I was really confused. “What?” He looked away, getting teary-eyed, and choked out, “AMY! don’t make me say it.” I was still confused. “What? Say what?”
He got down on one knee, took out a black box, and opened it up, offering it to me. “Will you marry me?” He was tearing up, and I started tearing up too. I got down on my knees and hugged him. “Yes, of course I will!” And then it was a happy mixture of tears and astonishment and hugs–you know, everything is a blur because you’re giddy. It was perfect.
And thinking back on it, I should have realized something was up! Jason told me he walked around for two days with that ring in his pocket, waiting for the right moment. The first night he couldn’t do it because we both got really seasick.
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Ripley
June 29th, 2009
2:13 pm
Interesting story – too bad because St Maarten is actually a lovely place to visit. Next time, go to the French side, take the ferry and visit Anguilla.
I had a similar experience: I was on a small cruise ship and went on deck at midnight to watch the ship sail when a handsome young Italian officer approached and started talking to me. All of a sudden I felt excruiating pain and burning in my right eye. I started screaming and running for the nearest ladies room (difficult enough to find on a ship with two good eyes!)desperate for a mirror to get the “thing” out of my eye. When I burst into the ladies room, there were a bunch of older ladies there and all were shocked to see a sobbing girl with a ship’s officer in hot pursuit run into ladies room! Imagine what they thought…….
Anyway, I could not even open the eye and was escorted to my cabin where my sister, who had already gone to bed, pried open my eye and took her fingernail and scraped a huge piece of tar from the inside of my upper lid. Apparently the hot tar blew into my eye when the smokestack was sounded.
The next morning I couldn’t open my eye and visited the ship’s doctor who proceeded to tell me that there was nothing in my eye but eyelashes, apparently prepared to deny injury in case of a law suit. I had a scratched cornea and had to wear dark glasses night and day and could not submerge my head at all(lot’s of fun in the Carribbean). So I ended my week without swimming, snorkeling, with a blood-red eye nearly swollen shut and becoming the talk of both the dowagers and the ship’s crew. Fun times.
Then there is the time I was robbed at machete point in Jamaica or the time we were witness to a serious head-on collision between tourists and locals in a remote and deserted road near West End on Grand Bahama Island. Fortunately I was not injured in Jamaica though I cannot recommend visiting jails in third world countries (or EVER visiting Jamaica). And fortunately the guy driving our car on Grand Bahama had a pocket knife and the forethought to cut out a seat belt and was able to make a tourniquet for the cab driver who had a damaged artery in his left leg. Almost forgot about the taptap buses in Haiti and Baby Doc’s minions who tried to rob my sister and I in Port Au Prince. I could go on and on – makes me wonder why I ever travel.
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Veronica
June 29th, 2009
2:35 pm
Reply to “Just a comment” – I was just adding to the topic w my own TRUE experience much the same as the other stories – my vacation which was not exaggerated and not under the influence or unorganized but my own story with the bottom line that I still appreciated my trip as being great. I didn’t realize that my aunt dying or a sea urchin not visible from the water line or even a rowdy horse could be my fault but thanks for pointing it out. And I guess when the hotel requires one’s tickets to be left at the front desk until check-out and then they misplace them, gee – I can certainly see how that would also be my fault. I forgot there are so many people on the site that like to COMMENT on things they know nothing about. As we say in the south – bless your heart!!
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Mike
June 29th, 2009
9:58 pm
Nice story. The picture, however, is from Key West during hurricane Rita.
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Me-Me
June 30th, 2009
9:16 am
OMG! Poor couple i’m glad they won and i hope her eye is better..ENJOY YOUR GRAND PRIZE…bless your hearts…HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE
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Cinnamon
June 30th, 2009
9:40 am
What happens if you never meet Mr. Right! I have done everything right. I have worked hard, taken care of my children, been support of my family. But then one day I realize that the kids are older and I home alone. No one to talk to, share my dreams with, or play footsies with for that matter. Where are all the Mr. Rights. Is there truly sucha a thing. But for those of you who have found that long lasting happiness, I am truly happy for you. For me, I will continue to search within myself, ask god for comfort and companion and most of all live life to the fullest.
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Alyssa
June 30th, 2009
9:47 am
The most romantic travel story for my husband and I happened, in fact, before we were even husband and wife! I was 20, having just studied abroad in Paris, and was traveling with a friend around Europe. My husband had just graduated from college and was also doing the grand European tour with a friend. I was from Connecticut and went to school in Boston. He was from Baltimore and was starting school at Emory in the fall. Needless to say, our paths never would have crossed in the U.S.
But thankfully, we did cross paths… in Rome, Italy. We both ended up at the same hostel in Rome at the same time. The hostel itself, located near the train station, was very dirty and filled with college students drinking their way through the continent. I was not enjoying our stay there at all. But then, one evening, after a long day of sight-seeing, my friends and I happened upon my husband and his friend eating in the communal kitchen. They seemed nice enough, so we sat down to join them. We talked for a long time, and I remember thinking that it was terribly unfortunate to meet such a wonderful guy all the way in Rome.
The next day, we had to part to go our separate ways. We exchanged email addresses, but I didn’t think anything would come of it. However, when I moved back to Boston in the fall, in a strange twist of events, my now-husband’s best friend moved in down the street! We spent all fall going to football games together while the one I really liked was beginning graduate school thousands of miles away in Atlanta. Thankfully, my husband came to visit that January, when we had only been communicating my email for six months. It was just as wonderful and comfortable as the first time we met in Rome. It was as if we’d known each other our whole lives. But we were so far apart!
Then, in a leap of faith, I applied to and was accepted to graduate school at Emory as well. Though I was planning on going to Harvard, there was something even stronger calling me in the South- and that was my future husband. I moved across the country for a man I’d met completely by chance in a horribly sketchy hostel in Rome– now, five years later, we are happily married and enjoy reminiscing about our happenstance meeting.
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sharon
June 30th, 2009
9:48 am
Cinnamon hang in there. Love arrives in the most unexpected ways you just need to be receptive. You also have to make yourself available and more sociable.
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gi gi
June 30th, 2009
10:24 am
I don’t think I’m going to any islands or cruises. I’ll stick to the mountians thank you very much. Poor thangs.
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Wabbit
June 30th, 2009
11:11 am
My story has the attributes of family, a bit or horror and romance at the same time. After 38 years of old maid-hood, I met the man of my dreams. I was not looking, it just happened. Here is my story.
My father had recently married a bimbo and he wanted me to meet my new “grandparents”. (My dad got along with them because they all were the same age.) It was a scorching July day when Dad, the bimbo, my boyfriend and I started up the interstate in Dad’s brand new motor home. The bimbo had picked it out so of course, it had all of the bells and whistles.
After many miles, my boyfriend told me that he was not feeling well and went into the bathroom. That is when we discovered that there was something horribly wrong with the plumbing.
The smell that filled vehicle was deadly. The bimbo and I kept looking at each other, finally breaking into hysterical laughter. We opened every window as quickly as possible. The result was sort of an internal tornado with anything not tied down, blowing around in the foul smelling, now blistering hot air.
My father reacted to the smell and the flying debris by trying to outrun it. The worse the smell got, the faster he drove. Pretty soon, we were flying. He passed everyone and everything. You know how they tell you to vary your speed when breaking in a new vehicle. Well that went out the window (while the smell did not). He had the pedal to the metal and was not letting up.
My boyfriend finally came out of the bathroom, looking sort of green. When he realized what he had caused, he played the “I am sick” card (which was really the “I am embarrassed” card) and went to the bedroom to lie down.
Shortly afterward, he called me to the back. There, he took my hand and asked me to marry him. That was almost 15 years ago and we have been happily married for over 14 years now. Dad and the bimbo did not fare as well. She has gone back to bimbo-land which made everyone happy.
So, while most women can paint a pretty picture of the story of how they got engaged, the one I can relate has mini-tornados, noxious odors and my dad driving up the interstate like a bat out of hell.
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The Big Box Proposal.
June 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
I moved to Atlanta from Iowa in 2005, and for various reasons, wasn’t able to spend the holidays with my boyfriend in 2005 and 2006. Finally, in 2007, we decided that he would come home with me for Christmas no matter what. I excitedly spent months telling him about my family’s traditions, but in October, he broke the news that he didn’t think he’d be able to come home with me for Christmas because he would have unexpected family coming to Atlanta. Although I was really disappointed, I still wanted to head back to Iowa and see my family, so we agreed to spend the holidays apart. I drove 16 hours through a snowstorm from Georgia to Iowa three days before Christmas (almost getting stranded at a gas station in the middle of Iowa)to see my parents.
Christmas day rolled around, and we went to my grandparents’ house for Christmas. When we arrived, my aunt(in which I would realize later was a slip-up) asked if my boyfriend was there yet. I told her he wasn’t coming and explained next year he would, not thinking anything of it.
My mom asked me to go downstairs and “help the kids with their Christmas carols,” and about ten minutes later, my aunt came and stood at the bottom of the steps. It didn’t cross my mind that she was manning a post (and my cousin was at the top of the stairs doing the same). My mom calls us all upstairs for dinner, and when I walk into the kitchen, I notice a very large present, about five feet wide and three feet tall sitting on the floor. My dad hands me a note and tells me to read it.
At this point there are 25 people staring at me with goofy looks on their faces and camcorders. I knew something wasn’t right. I read a letter from my boyfriend, which says there was something he forgot to give me in Atlanta, and he collaborated with my mom to get this last present to me. I walked over to the box, lifted the lid, and out pops my boyfriend! He was holding a special ornament in his hand, and he walked over to me and got down on one knee, and asked if I would marry him.
I had my hands over my face and I couldn’t speak, and someone had to prompt me for the answer, which of course was yes. Then comes surprise number two…his parents popped out from the living room! He and his parents drove from Atlanta on Monday, stayed overnight in Cedar Rapids, IA, and arrived around noon on Tuesday at my grandparents. The whole story about family in town for Christmas? It turns out that my boyfriend, my parents and his parents plotted this trip since AUGUST of that year. We spent the next few days with my family and his, going to Christmas gatherings and showing off my new sparkler.
On the way back to Atlanta, we stopped at quirky sports like Metropolis, IL, home of Superman and posed with plywood cutouts of the super heroes, and took pictures of the crazy billboards we saw. While the trip to Iowa was tough, the trip back home was the best road trip I can remember!
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The Big Surprise
July 1st, 2009
10:33 am
January of 2008 I had decided that I wanted to go to vacation with my boyfriend. After looking around for some deals online, I suggested that we go to Vegas. We started looking into it, and the next day he asked if we could rent a car and make the 3 almost 4 hour drive to Zion National Park, Utah for a few days after Vegas. Obviously, I said yes to that. After two nights in Vegas, we headed over to Utah for three.
Now, before we left for this trip, I walked into my livingroom and caught him looking at Facebook and saving a number into his cell phone. I immediately started making accusations, and he assured me that he had some surprise waiting for me, and that the plans would be finalized on Monday and e would tell me. Okay, so I let it go.
Fast forwards to Monday, we wake up and head over to Zion National Park, where he had planned for us to make the trek up to Angel’s landing. At first we had planned on eating breakfast at the park’s lodge, but we got there to late. Instead, we went up the trail to the Emerald Pools (i think that’s what is was called) and ate lunch afterwards.
Blistering hot and semi-exhausted, he said that we should still try to make the trek up, and since he was talking on and on about this trail for the last two months, I said sure. After a while of attempting to beat the heat, I told him that I could not go any further. I began to cry because he had really been wanting to do this, and here I was telling him it was a no go.
I was really upset and he told me it was okay. He reminded me about the surprise he had waiting for me and asked me to turn around. He got on one knee and asked me to marry him right there on the side of the mountain.
Needless to say, I’m very happy!
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Dianne Earle
July 1st, 2009
12:10 pm
Every year my husband and I and our dearest friends travel to Myrtle Beach for bike week. We are not hard core bikers as some are, but we are middle aged (maybe a little more than middle) white collar folks who just love to ride and enjoy the experience. About 2 years ago we decided to try a new place. Everything was great on the ride to the beach, but once we arrived we were informed in no uncertain terms that the bikes could not be parked in the parking lot as this reserved for “club members” only. I didn’t realized at first what that meant but my husband and friend just said “yes, sir” and moved the bikes to a place they were allowed to be parked. Well, turns out the hotel was the same one the Hell’s Angels chose to stay at. They had nearly every room in the place and we were the outsiders. There was a patio with a grill, tables, etc, and a sign that said “Club Members Only”, so we were not permitted to use anything on the patio even walk out onto the deck. There was also a pool, but to be honest we were too afraid to use it. The worst part was not the bikers themselves, but when we looked out our windows all we could see were, Myrtle Beach policy, SLED, U.S. Marshalls, etc. Any law enforcement agency you could imagine was there with there binoulars and cameras 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. They had the entire building surrounded. It was a little scary to say the least. The hotel refused to give us back our money to try to find another hotel, so we decided to try to make the best of if. Everytime we would leave or come back to the hotel, our pictures were taken by law enforcement and I am sure we are in some book somewhere as known associates of the Angels. The entire vacation was ruined because we never knew if gunfire was going to breakout due to some nervous law enforcement agent and we felt as if we used any of the amenities we would be in deep trouble. Needless to say, we will not be returning to that hotel anytime.
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Lindsey
July 1st, 2009
1:29 pm
In 2004, I was studying abroad in Quebec City. As a French major, I was there for 6 weeks for a language-intensive course at Laval University. My 21st birthday happened to fall during this six-week summer trip. As a surprise, my boyfriend, John, came to visit me for a weekend. He came to visit and sightsee but also to celebrate my birthday.
Saturday morning we got up to see all of the sites in Quebec City. We had fun taking in the sights together. Before he left Atlanta, he had made reservations for dinner at the Chateau Frontenac, a historic hotel over looking the St. Lawrence River. As we were leaving the hotel to make our way to dinner, he handed me my birthday present to hold. It was a little smaller than a shirt box. I must say I was a little disappointed…. We had been dating for about a year and a half, and were talking about marriage. I had hoped that the proposal would happen this weekend…How perfect! However, he quickly assured me the first night he arrived that was not going to happen, as he was planning a holiday proposal.
So, we were off to dinner in his rental car. He quickly became nervous that we were going to miss our reservation because of traffic. I told him it would be no big deal and we could just eat wherever. That, he would not accept. We made it just in time and we were seated at a beautiful table overlooking a statue of Samuel de Champlain, the founder of Quebec as well as the St. Lawrence River. How perfect! The waiter brought us our menus and as soon as he left, John insisted that I open my gift. He said he didn’t want to wait until dessert. So, I opened the card, which was really sweet. I open the box to find Wedding Wishes tissue paper. I remarked that it was a cruel joke, and he didn’t even notice it…he just said “it matched perfectly.” When I removed the tissue paper, I saw a beautiful picture frame with a picture of him on one knee holding a ring box. Written on the glass in silver marker was “Seras-tu ma femme?” which means “Will you be my wife?” I was so stunned that I couldn’t speak. He walked around the table to my chair and got down on one knee, with the ring, and said, “Lindsey, will you be my wife?” The best part was that he was so nervous, he had to tilt his head to the side and take a deep breath to get the words out. I quickly said Yes! The ring was beautiful and we had a wonderful, romantic dinner to celebrate.
I will never forget that day as long as I live.
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The Cooks
July 1st, 2009
1:31 pm
Where to start……..
In 2001 we decided to fly to Myrtle Beach on cheap airline tickets and the tragic events of 9/11 forced us to drive home. While we had it much easier than most people we were on our 4th rental car. The first one had air that didn’t work, the 2nd one had a flat tire, the 3rd one could not be taken out of the state and since the airports closed we had to get a 4th car to drive home.
The next year we decided to try Myrtle Beach again. This time we were there for the tropical storm part of the hurricane that hit the east coast. We chose that day to visit
Broadway at the Beach – if you’re familiar with M.B. you’ll know that it is an outdoor shopping experience. We were soaked and windblown but in the end the weather was fine after one day of the tropical storm. I took pictures of the weather warning on the television feeling certain I would not experience that again.
The next year we decided to try a different destination, Panama City. We arrived on Saturday only to evacuate on Tuesday because of Hurricane Ivan. We knew when we saw Jim Cantore on the beach we were in big trouble! We did get to visit Pineapple Willy’s with no wait whatsoever! And all of the TV’s were tuned to the weather channels instead of any kind of sports. We evacuated to Pigeon Forge, TN only to be inundated with rain to the point that the hotel parking lot flooded a lot of people’s cars but we were lucky to have a ‘high riding’ car and ours was not affected.
We thought we’d go way out there the next year and go to Hawaii. As soon as we booked our trip Hawaii experienced the most rainfall they had seen in decades and one of the volcanoes erupted. We hadn’t even gotten there yet and they were already experiencing our luck!!
Last year we went on our first cruise thinking that was a safe choice since we all know they won’t cruise a full cruise ship into harm’s way or a hurricane. On the last night we were sailing we ‘followed’ a hurricane up the east coast and on the 5th deck of the ship we had waves crashing into our window. The boat was rocking so hard it rocked us literally across the room of our cabin and knocked things off the shelves in the gift shop. So much for that.
So now we’ve decided to hire ourselves out for vacation to anyone who might need some sort of natural disaster. Maybe a houseboat on Lake Lanier this year??? None of my family will go on vacation with us now. It’s a true test to see who our real friends are……any takers for the cruise we’ve booked for this year???
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Anne Marie
July 1st, 2009
2:57 pm
It was an unexpected storm. I weathered it with my family in Brunswick. Florida and surrounding areas were saturated…what a vacation!
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sheila
July 2nd, 2009
8:20 am
Our trip started out on a warm evening, stars were shining and the air had a light breeze blowing. We stopped for dinner at a Italian restraunt and I was so upset I couldnt contain myself. Fidgeting I reached across the table and looked into my husbands glistening green eyes and said I cannot lie to you any longer there is something I have to tell you. Squeezing my hand and looking back into my eyes he said as long as this doesnt involve a trip to the Jerry Springer show go ahead. Laughing broke the tension that was swirling around in the air between us, No i said I am kidnapping you for a long weekend and so we can enjoy riding the North Ga Mountains. His face broke into a wide grin and he said really? What about work? Dont worry my love all has been arranged, Everyone including your boss knows and here is the key to our cabin.
Jumping on the bike we rode to our cabin and spent a wonderful weekend rediscovering one another and the roads that led to no where in paticular just to the destination of our hearts. We strolled hand in hand in the moonlight, danced to the radio and most of all enjoyed each others prescence. Weve now been married 26 years and not a night goes by that he doesnt still tell me he loves me and kisses me goodnight. We havent enjoyed “A” romantic trip, Weve enjoyed a romantic life. After 26 years he is still my best friend, and my heart still beats a little faster when I hear his voice or he walks into a room. This journey we have been privlaged to share together is our romantic trip.
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Jennifer
July 2nd, 2009
12:04 pm
My most romatic trip was when my now husband and I got engaged in 2001.
I had qualified for the USA Long Course Triathlon World Team and the ironman race was in Denmark. The Tuesday before the race I said a tearful goodby to my now husband. I was so sad to be leaving him. My friends, who were competing also, and I arrived in Denmark and went about our business of getting ready to race. We came back from a swim workout and my friend called and told me to come down to his room and bring my bag. He said he left something in it. I was totally confused since I knew he hadn’t, but said I’d be down as soon as I got dressed and was ready for our team dinner.
I arrived at my friends room and knocked on the door. When I opened it my friends were smiling and my now husband was behind the door. He flew to Denmark to surprise me and I was happily shocked.
The race took place a few days later and I was happy to have him there as support. It was wonderful to see his face at the finish line.
The next day we had plans to go to Copenhagen. We took the train to the city, had lunch, and started to tour around. We saw a church and he wanted to go inside so we did. I didn’t mind the rest since my legs were tired from the race. We sat there for a bit and I was kind of ready to go, but he seemed to be stalling. Finally I knew why…he got down on one knee and proposed.
I then found out that my friends who were in Denmark with me, and all of my friends and family back home, knew he was coming to Denmark to ask me to marry him.
Our flight schedules were different so we didn’t get to fly home together, but it sure was nice coming home engaged to the man I wanted to marry.
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Blanca
July 2nd, 2009
6:44 pm
Does anybody remember when this used to be a newspaper?
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Mickie
July 3rd, 2009
10:31 pm
When we first got engaged I was 19 and in college and my future husband had recently graduated and was on active duty with the Army. He wanted to get me a diamond engagement ring at the PX since they were less expensive there. I told him that I had several diamond rings that I had inherited and to save his money and buy me an emerald when he could afford it. Fast forward 25 years. Our younger son was 8 years old and Mardi Gras coincided with our anniversary that year. We had some time off because of the holiday and decided to take our travel trailer and spend a week at Disney World. Hardly a romantic getaway! On the evening of our anniversary, we left our son at the Mickey Mouse Club and had a lovely dinner at Flaglers Restaurant in one of the nicest Disney World hotels. During dessert my husband gave me a gorgeous emerald and diamond ring. He remembered after 25 years that I wanted an emerald! I have worn that ring every day for nearly 20 years now.
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Joanna
July 6th, 2009
9:24 am
For this 4th of July, my family and I watched the fireworks and a great small town called Perdido Key, FL. They had a great BBQ Extravaganza going on during the day at the beach with face painting and games, and the fireworks at night were amazing. You were able to watch them from three different public beaches, and best of all it was free!
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CONTEST: 3 Finalists for romantic travel stories! | Still Traveling
July 6th, 2009
1:15 pm
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MaryBeth Belz
July 6th, 2009
3:37 pm
I think the couple that wrote “We met at a hostel in Rome” should win the contest. Their story was just lovely and very romantic.
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Renee
July 6th, 2009
4:19 pm
The couple highlighted in “We Met At A Hostel In Rome” is like something in a romantic movie. Straight out of the fairytale books. I’m going to Europe soon and I can only hope to be as lucky!!!
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Chicken Dinner
July 6th, 2009
4:41 pm
**oh my**
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Terri Joiner
July 6th, 2009
4:45 pm
How much more romantic can you get????
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Terri Joiner
July 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
How much more romantic can you get than Lindsey’s story??? Priceless!
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Maureen Brown
July 6th, 2009
7:04 pm
You two were definitely meant to be together… you make a wonderful couple. Love you both!
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Tex Pitfield
July 6th, 2009
8:00 pm
Regrettably, Quebec is not “abroad” since it is a 2 hour flight and only crosses a continental border and not an body of water. Abroad would be Europe, Asia, Africa,,,,,,and why not stay at the Chateau Frontenac, whose rates are similar to other hotels?
Copenhagen is a wonderful romantic city, and it is a great storey, but lacks the full effort of family and friends. Just did not pull my heart strings.
Meet on the other side of the world in a dive and then follow this hot guy to a second rate part of the world, throwing Harvard University to the wind, and obviously it was two sided by the e-mail exchange…now that is a great storey.
The challenge for all three couples in this world…be able to tell their children and grand children in 50 years when statistics say they won’t even be talking to each other.
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Debra Schramm
July 6th, 2009
8:05 pm
Lindsey Evan’s story is definitely the most romantic! Thanks for sharing Lindsey.
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Audrey Daly
July 6th, 2009
8:34 pm
Wow! Your story is such an inspiration. Your meeting in Rome was definitely fate. Stories like yours help to keep my faith strong and that one day I’ll “bump” into my husband too! Take care and thanks for sharing your wonderful story!
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Judd Webb
July 6th, 2009
9:35 pm
Good story
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DurandTheMan
July 7th, 2009
1:00 am
WOW! That John fella sure knows how to put it down. Respect!
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Laurie Ingram
July 7th, 2009
12:44 pm
I love true stories like this one!! They were meant to be together!
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frank
July 7th, 2009
1:16 pm
Hostel in Rome is the winner. What a tale of twists of fate.
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Diane Matheu
July 7th, 2009
2:06 pm
True love comes to us rarely in life. Isn’t it wonderful that it happened to the two you in Rome. How romantic.
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Jay
July 7th, 2009
7:17 pm
My wife and I met 15 years ago at an auto auction in Hahira. She and I were eying the same 1991 Ford Escort. This cream puff was powder blue and ready to roll…only some minor body damage. As the bidding escalated, only the two of us were left. At first, we exchanged only looks of contempt and scorn in the battle for our dream car. But as we sparred up to the $1400 mark, I began to notice a certain cuteness in the way she furrowed her brow my way. She later admitted she became strangely aroused by the commanding way I voiced my bids. Long story short, I walked away with a lot more than the Escort. The powder blue Escort with beer cans tied behind it on our wedding day is a memory I will cherish till I die. Our two-night honeymoon in Panama City was a seven-alarm blaze and the embers are still red!
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36 Years In
July 7th, 2009
7:39 pm
Love your story! Wishing you many more years of happiness!
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36 Years In
July 7th, 2009
7:41 pm
He’s a keeper! Enjoyed your lovely story!
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Alyssa Dunn
July 7th, 2009
11:52 pm
Thank you all SO much for your comments! We obviously love our story, but we are a bit biased!
It is incredible that it touches and means something to others, too. Thanks again.
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Father Ed
July 8th, 2009
7:45 am
Some may see it as romantic. I see it as 2 more yankees moving to Atlanta!
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Hakan
July 8th, 2009
9:27 am
Airplanes are certified for a maximum number of passengers due to safety reasons. You have to be able to get everyone out in a short time through the emergency exits. Therefore, you cannot ‘cram’ 50% more passengers on an aircraft. Even though it might be technically possible, this would be a safety and regulatory nightmare.
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Zletr Blake
July 8th, 2009
10:01 am
Nice story Jay
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Lauren
July 8th, 2009
11:42 am
Sooo sweet and very romantic!!!!
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Jay
July 8th, 2009
11:55 am
You’re a kind person Zletr. I mean it!
But it was a made-up humor attempt on my part.
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Ashley
July 8th, 2009
9:48 pm
Tex – studying abroad simply means studying in a different country. You do not have to be overseas. So, if a student lives in the U.S., then studying in Quebec would most definitely be studying abroad.
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Kraig Brown
July 9th, 2009
11:51 am
I had been married to my best friend for 21 years, in fact we celebrated our first meeting in June 22 years to the date. We have assembled a 19, 17 and 13 year old, and most recently have begun the process to adopt two toddlers abandoned by their mother in downtown Atlanta. We needed a get-a-away, as the last two months introduced us to diapers and ‘child-proofing’ all over again, kind of like the runner who had settled into the last mile- and then opted for another 20 miles in full sprint. We decided to stay in Atlanta and researched local fare for the perfect evening.
We found the St. Regis, a newly opened property in Buckhead because it boasted an elegant and stunning outdoor pool. We packed our bag, gave the kids the cell number and headed to one of the most wonderous places in Atlanta. Nothing could have prepared us for the decor, the friendly staff and the over-sized rooms! Our suite was furnished with every luxury, including a chilled bottle of champagne.
We had spent our 20th anniversay in Rome, It., and as we lay besude the sinding staircases next to the Olympic pool being served hand and foot- our singular thought was that this was what Rome had wished it had in both beauty and romantic flair. We dined at Paces 88, another treat, and then headed back to the quiet of our Roman Holiday, 30 minutes from home, but a whole world away!
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gorobypedop
July 10th, 2009
5:28 pm
Definately will not go to Vilamoura anymore, 6 Hour rounds of Golf and 4.5 Euros for a beer , we will stay clear of the Vilamoura golf courses this year, and the so called free shuttle bus turns up if you are lucky.
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July 13th, 2009
12:56 pm
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JJ
July 13th, 2009
1:05 pm
Not yet, but I’m planning a trip with three friends from high school, and we are hitting Vegas in March for 5 days.
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Chris
July 13th, 2009
1:58 pm
I think I’ve stayed at the hostel you described. It was right by the main train station, Hostel Alexander or something like that. Very dirty but an interesting group of people. I was studying abroad and stayed there with friends in the fall of 2000. Anyway, small world.
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Inez
July 15th, 2009
2:53 pm
A sort of different vacation. Flew into Louisville, KY and drove 30 miles to visit friends in Scottsburg, IN. Fun time on their pond with the geese teaching their babies how to fly and music of the locals at the South Boston Opera on Friday nights. Then to Churchill Downs for the races, (Forget the order of things now), Bowling Green to the Corvet museum, Jim Bean Distillery, Lincoln’s birth place, Jack Daniels Distillery in KY, Nashville and the Grand Ole Opery and Jackson’s home and then the Space and Rocet Museum in Alabama. On to Orange Beach and hot 95 – 100 degree heat with humidity at 80-85 for a family reunion. Will take Boise any time with its dry heat. Besides, I’m Basque!!
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DAH
July 15th, 2009
3:34 pm
My Vegas trip….
well to start, we got in Vegas around 10pm, settled in the hotel (MGM), walked around, ate diner and went to the room and fell alseep. The next morning we woke up super earlier, went to breakfast, walk around some more, fell asleep! Later that day, I was so tired I didn’t want to do anything, but my boy friend looked like he was bored out of his mind. I was feeling very ill, but I had to have fun on this trip. I had been looking forward to Vegas for about a year! So we gamble, did a little site seeing, had a few drinks, and decided to shop, so that we could go to a party later on. We were excited because we slept the first night, so he went to take a shower, by the time he finish I was KNOCK OUT! LOL! The next day my parents called sounding so excited “hows Vegas…I think we told the biggest lie that we will ever tell. So I decided to go to the store and get a pregnacy test…it was positive! OMG…! I think that cancel our Vegas trip. We didn’t drink, we didn’t party, we didn’t do anything, but we SLEPT IN VEGAS. A couple weeks later…I lost the baby. I’ll never forget my first time in VEGAS…., maybe I’ll try again…(the trip)
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Not ready for AARP yet!
July 16th, 2009
10:23 am
Hahaha! Nobody’s talking! Guess they’re not ready to ‘fess up yet! LOL! I don’t have a story, just a word of advice….. NEVER eat sushi downtown Las Vegas. The strip is okay, ‘tho.
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Jeff P.
July 16th, 2009
11:45 am
Got married in Vegas last year, but this story isn’t about that. This story took place on April 14, 2000 at my friends wedding. We went to see Andrew Dice Clay at the Venetian. A couple of us already had tickets via ticketmaster, but a few others got in line to buy them. About that time, a guy walked over and said he had some for sale. Well, turns out those were tickets comped to him. Long story short, the eye in the sky saw this and we were all escorted into a dark room buy some very large, no-neck men in tuxedos. Expletives were flying out of their mouths, accusing the man of disrespecting them buy selling the tickets they comped to him. It was like a scene out of a movie and that was our first ever night in Vegas. It was funny and really scary at the same time. I’ll be back there in December and hopefully will have a good story to tell.
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Stan Fouts
July 16th, 2009
5:49 pm
I have taken two trips to Vegas. The first one was years ago with one of my best friends when I turned 30! We had flown to Pheonix to begin our journey seeing all the sights. The only night we did not have booked was our night in Vegas. We thought rooms would be plentiful. WRONG! We ended up staying at the Stardust. It was okay but nothing like what they have now. The next morning was Sunday and I was amazed that people were actually gambling on a SUNDAY!! What had happened to our world! We lost money and I still blame it on the fact that we were gambling on a Sunday! My next trip was recently with my family for a short stay before taking my parents to see the Grand Canyon for the first time. We were able to get a great deal at the Venetian!!!! WOW! We were “styling” on this trip. We manage to stay inside most of time time until my wonderful little neices heard about the rides at Circus Circus. So the next day we decided to walk. My sister had rented a car but the rest of us thought we’d be troopers and walk. As we walked down the street each one of us was getting hotter and hotter. Of course it was 115 degree outside!!!! As family members started droping like flies my sister would pick them up and continue to Circus Circus with them in tow. My brother-in-law and I were the only ones that walked the entire way! People kept saying “but its a dry heat”! So what! My oven is dry too but its still hot!!!!!!!!!!!
We never left the Venetian again!
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Jo Ann Swafford
July 17th, 2009
5:20 am
My identical twin and I went to Vegas with our other sister and her daughter in January 2007. Got checked into New York New York and even though it’s around 1AM, we’re pumped ’cause, Hey, it’s Vegas, baby! So my twin and I go to the lobby/casino before the other two. As we stood simply surveying where to go first, a well-heeled man approached us and asked if we were twins. We get that all the time—even now as grown women—so no big deal and we answer our typical, “Yes, since we were born!” He comes back with, “Well do I get both of you?” We look at each other and then back at him with a mixture of “What did he just say?” and “Did he just say that?” He doesn’t miss a beat, and says, “Well, yall do turn tricks don’t you? Isn’t that why your standing here?” We both say, “NO!” simultaneously. He vanishes in about a nano second. I should add here that we both were wearing jeans and sweaters…..if that’s what the “styling” working girls wear in Vegas, but that’s doubtful.
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Horsetoothedjackass
July 17th, 2009
2:33 pm
If you can fully remember all of the details of an outrageous story from Vegas, then it didn’t happen (Kind of like the old saying about Woodstock, “if you remember it, you weren’t there.).
My trip back in March was probably my craziest Vegas trip to date. Was out there to hang out with some friends from Alberta and there were definitely some crazy moments. We were all being so loud, drunk and obnoxious at a steakhouse that they seat our group by ourselves in one of the dining rooms (The limo ride to and from this casino was so crazy that my sides hurt from laughing so much.) Another highlight was one of our guys getting his picture taken on Fremont Street with a guy holding a religious sign about the perils of Las Vegas; made even more funny by the fact that our guy was holding a drink in one hand at the time.
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July 19th, 2009
4:52 pm
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still in a daze
July 20th, 2009
3:16 am
well…went to Vegas with my girlfriends back in ‘05…left wondering why they called it Sin City, cause we didn’t see it….went back this year for my 35th bday with just 1 girlfriend, and now I know why!!!! We are still remembering bits and pieces of the trip and I will never tell what I am having flashbacks of, but i do remember an hour of Saki bombs in the Japanese restaraunt at MGM….loud and crazy fun with complete strangers!!!
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J Money
July 20th, 2009
8:27 am
My experience in Vegas was truly remarkable. We had just got married and was on a four day extravanganza.We travel by some airline like “Soulplane ” the movie where I lost my cell phone in the cab on the way from the airport. We met our friends at the beautiful 4 bedroom house we shared for this couple retreat since we had never been there. They left us for Hoover Dam exhibit. We walked and walked up and down the strip until we fell into one of the shows on the strip. The show turned out to be an alternative lifestyle musical in which my wife wasn’t so amused. After we left , our first marital arguement began. I left only to have a flat tire in the middle of no where ( intoxicated ) . After i returned back to the house little after 7am the vacation started all over again but this time it went a little smoother. I got to see all the Elvis chapels , Toni Braxton show , and 600 buck come up in the 3 remaining days along with shopping the vegas strip. Luckily God has still bless our marriage. So be careful in Vegas !!
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J Money
July 20th, 2009
8:36 am
In addition to my email comment about Vegas is the kicker , My wife was 6 months pregnant so the alcohol factor into our trip made the story unique if you have ever been through the Casinos. Men know about the cards after dark. Crazy !! but I love it !!
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Gabrielle Hairston
July 20th, 2009
1:04 pm
I vote for the snake story it was hillarious!
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CONTEST: 3 Finalists for romantic travel stories! | Still Traveling
July 20th, 2009
2:37 pm
[...] The most romantic travel story for my husband and I happened, in fact, before we were even husband and wife! I was 20, having just studied abroad in Paris, and was traveling with a friend around Europe. My husband had just graduated from college and was also doing the grand European tour with a friend. I was from Connecticut and went to school in Boston. He was from Baltimore and was starting school at Emory in the fall. Needless to say, our paths never would have crossed in the U.S. Read on [...]
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CONTEST: Finalists for “Vegas Nights” vacation stories! | Still Traveling
July 20th, 2009
4:04 pm
[...] Which author should win this week? Check out the prize! [...]
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jennifer
July 20th, 2009
6:08 pm
This is a finalist? Seriously? I’m glad I didn’t bother to send in a submission, because it certainly wouldn’t have had enough exclamation points to make the cut.
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If these storys...
July 21st, 2009
6:39 am
are the best you are getting then you need to just cancel this contest!
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Bethany
July 21st, 2009
7:30 am
These stories are pitiful – none of them should win! I agree – cancel the contest!
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Dawg Lover
July 21st, 2009
7:55 am
I would cancel the contest as well. I didn’t think any of them were particularly tragic or funny.
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Leslie
July 21st, 2009
8:24 am
What happened to …..what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? These tales should really stay in Las Vegas….I agree…no one should win.
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Westurd
July 21st, 2009
8:33 am
horrible story…….all the finalist. wow…
When I was in Vegas I went to bed at 10:00…….every morning!
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fayettefan1
July 21st, 2009
9:19 am
Halarious!
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bg
July 21st, 2009
9:51 am
Fully agree with other comments … no winner in this bunch of lame stories. Time to cancel!
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Brad in Jasper
July 21st, 2009
10:00 am
Don’t forget the upper panhandle of ID. A world away from Boise and Southern ID climate-wise. More Pacific moisture, smaller, greener mtns (reminds you of Western NC). Went to school in Moscow (UI) while at UGA. Loved it up there and explored every chance I got. Sandpoint area is a must-see.
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Stephanie
July 21st, 2009
10:41 am
If this was one of the top three stories, I hate to read how poorly the others were either written or told. How did this story make the finals?
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Stephanie
July 21st, 2009
10:45 am
These were the finalists? My goodness…Not only were they not funny, entertaining or amusing, but they were poorly written. Had I known getting to the finals would be this easy, I would have made up something!
~sigh~
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outonleave
July 21st, 2009
7:40 pm
Great story! . . . !!
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JB
July 21st, 2009
11:07 pm
Why all the hatin’ people? Sour grapes? Why? Let’s think for a minute…..soldiers dying in Iraq and elsewhere, house foreclosures, job losses, any personal health tragedy one can be struck down with…..OK, so 3 people decided they might brighten their day or someone else’s. They didn’t claim to be Truman Capote or Ernest Hemingway or even Candace Bushnell (Sex & The City author) or Jim Carrey……just everyday people who retreated out of the real world for just a moment to recall a frivilous moment in their lives. So what? All the “haters” should just appreciate what’s around them……albeit mundane to them. And next time, Stephanie, why don’t you submit an entry? P.S. The writers were told to “keep it very clean.” Obviously, the AJC would not have printed otherwise. Common sense here.
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July 22nd, 2009
7:01 am
[...] Our good friend, and MOMania fill-in host, Keith, just returned from an awesome family trip where they didn’t stop at all. They visited several states in the Northwest, visited friends, hiked and saw cities. (Keith wrote the first installment about her trip in this blog on AJC’s Still Traveling.) [...]
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pat
July 22nd, 2009
10:16 am
These were really bad stories. There was nothing here to make these people win anything.
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Mo's mom
July 22nd, 2009
10:32 am
BORING!
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Mo's mom
July 22nd, 2009
10:33 am
BORING!
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Mo's mom
July 22nd, 2009
10:34 am
These stories suck! No one should win.
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Mo's mom
July 22nd, 2009
10:35 am
BORING!
If’d you’d actually given in to him, that would’ve probably made the story better.
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WH
July 22nd, 2009
11:06 am
Very lame stories for Las Vegas.
My gosh, cancel this contest now
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Ocala Jack
July 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
Please tell Inez that the Jack Daniels Distillery is in Tennessee, not Kentucky.
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CONTEST: Finalists for “Vegas Nights” vacation stories! | Still Traveling
July 22nd, 2009
12:03 pm
[...] I got married in Vegas last year, but this story isn’t about that. This story took place on April 14, 2000 at my friend’s wedding. Read on [...]
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July 22nd, 2009
12:09 pm
[...] I have taken two memorable trips to Vegas. The first one was years ago, with one of my best friends when I turned 30! … My next trip was recently with my family for a short stay before taking my parents to see the Grand Canyon. Read on [...]
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CONTEST: The winner of romantic travel stories - We met at a hostel in Rome | Still Traveling
July 22nd, 2009
12:11 pm
[...] This week’s topic: We want your Vegas night vacation stories! [...]
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JoAnn's Daughter
July 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm
Well said JB. I can’t believe all these negative and RUDE comments! Obviously none of you submitted so quit complaining and wait for the next contest. I’m glad my mom’s about to win a FREE trip to Florida for taking 5 minutes out of her day to tell a funny story as opposed to taking 5 minutes to tell someone how lame their writing is.
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Laurel
July 23rd, 2009
5:00 am
We live in Vancouver, B.C., which has warm water because of the Japan current. But we appreciate the cold water beaches of the NW. We visited the beach at Cape Dissapointment near Ilwaco WA on a summer’s morning. We were the only people there. A morning fog haunted the land as we walked like explorers leaving the only footprints on this isolated beach. The huge and near deafening waves pounded at the storm ravages rocks as gulls wove patterns in the fog. It was magical. It make feel wild and almost as mad as the French Lieutenant’s Woman. It made me do the obligatory spin in the sand as I danced through the cold firm wet sand. Smiles.
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Memaw
July 23rd, 2009
10:26 am
A better answer to the ‘are you twins’ question would be ‘no, do we look alike?’
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Memaw
July 23rd, 2009
10:33 am
None of these finalists should have been printed. They certainly should NOT win a prize. Worst stories I’ve ever heard. Glad I don’t have to travel with any of them. BORING does not begin to cover them.
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Dianna
July 23rd, 2009
10:56 am
Not one of these stories is worth printing! Get some stories that have some substance and humor to them. These are just awful.
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Jae Heidenreich
July 23rd, 2009
11:06 am
Great that you mentioned Mt. Hood Adventure Park for Skibowl…those bungee jumps, ziplines and alpine slides are great for the active set. For young ones looking for additional hands-on experiences, Rosse Posse Acres Elk Farm and Dream Ridge Stables trail rides are great.
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Drew
July 23rd, 2009
11:21 am
This story was horrible. It means nothing and nothing happened.
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Drew
July 23rd, 2009
11:25 am
Whoever JG is should be embarrassed. They should also have been part of the AJC job cuts.
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MC
July 23rd, 2009
12:06 pm
Stupid contest, but I don’t blame the entrants. I’ve got way better stories about Vegas, but there’s no way they could get printed (even if I wanted people to know).
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UGA Dawg 2025
July 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm
this is the biggest joke of a story ever WTF
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Sue
July 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm
Just got back from Maine 3 weeks ago. First time in New England. The coast there is also rocky, very different from Southern beaches. We loved it. The rocks and cliffs were so beautiful! We would go back again in a heartbeat.
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A reader
July 23rd, 2009
10:12 pm
Wow – Lame does not begin to describe these stories. Not talking about the writing, just that there is nothing interesting about them.
- Guy buys tickets from someone who had them comped and the guy they bought them from gets in trouble
- People walked in the heat
- Somebody thought twins in the casino at 2 in the morning were working girls
Nothing to see here..just move along
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Wes
July 23rd, 2009
10:15 pm
This isn’t real. They could care less what you do with comped tickets.
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Ken
July 23rd, 2009
11:09 pm
These are the worst stories imaginable…whomever judged this obviously has never been to Vegas.
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JJ
July 24th, 2009
12:12 am
Wow, really, all these are really stupid, but this one was the worst. Yeah it is hot in Vegas, DUH
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Dustin
July 24th, 2009
12:32 am
These were awful. There had to be better stories out there then this!!!!
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ThatGuy!
July 24th, 2009
12:46 am
One time I went to Vegas and I took a poop in the batroom at The Mirage. AJC, what prize do I win for my awesome story?
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ThatGuy!
July 24th, 2009
12:46 am
One time I went to Vegas and I took a poop in the bathroom at The Mirage. AJC, what prize do I win for my awesome story?
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Big Al
July 25th, 2009
8:17 am
That story is a bald faced lie. I don’t believe the person telling the story has ever been to Las Vegas.
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Big Al
July 25th, 2009
8:19 am
No wonder newspapers are losing readers with crap like this as final stories.
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Mike
July 25th, 2009
9:13 am
Seriously these people have lost the art of stroy telling..I cant beleive these silly stories make it to the final!!
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Mike
July 25th, 2009
9:15 am
Is this a story ???
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Mike
July 25th, 2009
9:17 am
AWESOME !!! Never heard a stroy like this before…Do they really know what they are writing??
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RK
July 25th, 2009
10:00 am
Give a prize for best comments:
1. JB – best hater hater
2.ThatGuy! – most graphic
3. JoAnn’s daughter – most passion
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Joyce Ann
July 27th, 2009
11:43 am
When my husband and I were dating it seemed like all of our trips seemed to center around cars – Sebring, Petit Le Mans, etc. and involved camping. Like outside in a tent camping – of which I had never done before I met him. So I asked if the next vacation we took could be one that didn’t involve cars (even though I’m an auto enthusiast also) and that I could sleep on a nice cushy bed and not on a sleeping bag outside. He said sure and that he’d plan it. He checked with me to make sure that my schedule at work was open over the weekend of February 1st/2nd. He wouldn’t tell me where we were going, but didn’t mind if I’d ask questions. “Is it near an ocean?” “Is it near a racetrack?” “Have I been there before?” and all of these were answered ‘yes.’ We happened to be watching Food Network one night and he said “How hard do you think it would be to get reservations at Paula Deen’s restaurant on a Friday night?” and I said “We’re going to Savannah, aren’t we????” He said “um, no, why would you think that? no more questions…” :p So, vacation time rolls around and we’re at the airport and he hands me my boarding pass…to Savannah! He couldn’t believe I guessed it. We flew into Savannah and picked up the rental and headed to the Dresser Palmer House – beautiful house and wonderful service there. The room was just crazy romantic – giant four-poster bed that had a small set of stairs that you had to climb to get into it, beautiful verandah, just gorgeous. I was laying on the bed and Luke was digging around through his luggage and he said ‘well, want to know the itinerary?’ “Sure!” ‘We’ll get up tomorrow and go to Tybee Island to see the sunrise, then come back and have breakfast, pack our luggage and then we have to leave.’ “WHAT? We just got here???” ‘Well, we’ll be heading back to the airport because we’re going to fly to San Diego to watch the sunset. You okay with that?’ “HOLY CRAP!” (not the most ladylike thing to say, I know) “YES! Wow, San Diego???” ‘Oh yeah, I have a surprise – shut your eyes.’ He walked over to the bed and sat me up. As soon as he grabbed my left hand I knew what was going to happen….he proposed.
After much hugging and smooching on my part, he grabbed my shoulders and asked ’so, is that a yes?’ He was going to propose at Tybee the next morning but couldn’t wait. We flew to San Diego the next afternoon – watched the sunset on the Pacific after watching it rise on the Atlanta. Spent the night and morning in SD and headed back home (after a nice surprise upgrade to first class by Delta!) on Sunday. We married at the Dresser Palmer House last August 30th and are approaching our first year anniversry. Perfect trip – perfect wedding – happy marriage.
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Joyce Ann
July 27th, 2009
12:09 pm
dangit…I meant to type “Atlantic” not “Atlanta!”
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CONTEST: The winner of Vegas Nights travel stories - Mistaken Identity | Still Traveling
July 27th, 2009
12:21 pm
[...] This week’s topic: We want your Summer Camp stories! [...]
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Atlanta Girl
July 27th, 2009
12:57 pm
As a kid, I was a girl scout and one summer I went to camp with my sister for a week. We did girly activities and the other girls cried all week to go home they were so homesick. I didn’t get what all the fuss was about. To say the least I never went back to girl scout camp.
Boy Scout camp, on the other hand was way better! The summer after my sophomore year in college my boyfriend at the time had convinced me to work as a counselor at a local boy scout camp, Woodruff Scout Reservation. He had worked there for several years and they way he talked about all the cool activities – swimming, tubing, rafting, hiking, riflry, teaching – oh and there were boys! Staff boys! With a ratio of about one girl to every 15 staff boys the odds were looking good.
Summer camp was fun and beautiful. Woodruff is nestled in the mountains of North Georgia near Blairsville. My cabin all three summers was on the small private lake that belonged to the camp. During off times I could watch sail boats, fisherboys, waterskiers, and the crazy chaos of the swimming area. The sunlight up there was perfect for summer – bright, clear, and warm. In my memory, my favorite part of camp was the way the water glittered on a clear day and the green in the valley around the lake was so verdant it felt like heaven.
Did I mention there were boys? Little boys, skinny boys, screaming boys, cute boys. There were several campers in my classes that were more memorable than others for various reasons usually associated with how much disciple I had to give them. One counselor on the waterfront staff as me my second year, post-boyfriend, was the most memorable. He was tall, tan, with brown hair and eyes like chocolate pools. Somehow I noticed that we keep following each other around. I would save a seat for him and he one for me whereever the staff was meeting. One bright moonlit night on the bridge over the lake we had that conversation.
“Do you like someone at camp?”
“Yes”
“Is it Sam?”
“No! It’s you silly!”
That is how I met my husband and how I had the best three summers of my life . . . at Boy Scout Camp.
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zoe
July 27th, 2009
1:21 pm
I attended a Salvation Army camp in Upstate New York for 9 summers. The camp sessions only lasted 1 week, but once I was old enough, I worked at camp for the whole summer. I spent 7 summers working at summer camp.
The camp I attended was a traditional camp with space for about 150 campers. One set of cabins had a community shower and restrooms. Those cabins were usually assigned to boys. The other two sets of cabins had bathrooms and showers inside. It is located on one of the finger lakes and we could take our campers out on a pontoon boat or canoeing. Canoeing was always fun, but it seems that every day one summer I had to swim out after a canoe that went too far or the campers lost their oars. The camp had a pool, the undertow of the lake made it too dangerous for a dedicated swimming area. That allowed for cabins that won special awards to go “night swimming.” Of course we had campfires and I still remember the dozens of camp songs I learned over 25 years ago when I was a camper. Those songs are still sung today. Our camp has a Facebook group page with hundreds of members, there are people on there that I haven’t seen in 15 years, but we still message back and forth. I’ve told many people, camp is much more fun for the staff than the campers. We had a night watch set up so that three of the nine counselors in a cabin group had duty and the other six were off. We were allowed off property to go to town as long as we were back by curfew. We would go to town and play “Fire Drill” with multiple cars, visit the local cemetery and scare ourselves silly or just cruise the back roads. Staff trips on our days off included Niagara Falls, Boston and Maine. One of my friends met his wife at camp and even though they are both from England, they had their wedding at camp! Another friend just had her kids come back from the same camp we went to as kids and even though camp has changed over the years, they loved it! Just as we did when we were campers and staff.
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July 27th, 2009
2:07 pm
[...] My identical twin and I went to Vegas with our other sister and her daughter in January 2007. We checked into New York New York, and even though it was around 1a.m., we were pumped ’cause, hey, it’s Vegas, baby! Read on [...]
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Kelly
July 27th, 2009
2:19 pm
A Little Piece of Heaven
Kid Heaven is definitely an accurate description of my summer camp experience! In fact, one of the songs that is sung each Friday night at closing ceremonies says “a little piece of heaven there nestled in the pines, it’s a home away from home to me.” I met the man of my dreams, who happened to be named Kelly as well, at Camp High Harbour on Lake Burton. Now we share the same first and last name.
I started going to camp the summer after 4th grade. It was incredible – 2 weeks of watersports, running around in the woods, playing games like Capture the Counselor, camping out, making friends, and learning about God. It is defintely the place where kids can just be kids. I loved it, and kept going to camp there until I was old enough to be a counselor and then a program director. In all I spent 11 summers of my life there and finally had to give it up when I was 21 to get a “real job.”
The most important thing I got from camp would have to be my husband! We had know each other and worked together for years, but we started dating the summer after my sophomore year of college at UGA. He had just graduated that semester from UGA as well and was off to start his career, but not before one last hoorah at camp! He already had a job lined up for the Fall, so he had it made. He started the summer off with some pick up line about us having the same name if we got married… who knew! We dated for 3 years until he pulled off a proposal on the waterfront at where else but camp. We were married in November of 2006, and we just had our first child, a sweet baby boy, 6 weeks ago today.
We are both actually still involved with the camp. My husband is on the board for the organizatinon and won their Volunteer of the year of the award for 2008. We tell everyone we know about this place and our children will definitely be going there. It is incredible how much kids love this place and how they are dying to go back year after year. The counselors are trained so well and have such a passion for fun and serving the kids. The whole experience teaches kids so many important things – everything from how to have fun and be crazy to having confidence in yourself and learning about God. I know that both my husband and I attribute a lot of who we are to camp because of all that we learned and experienced there. I am so thankful that I was able to talk my parents into sending me there all those years ago!
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Jewels
July 28th, 2009
4:37 pm
This is a heads-up to those who want to have a happy, successful family vacation. I just returned from an extended family week with 4 sibs, their spouses and children, and a pair of grandparents, total 16. It was successful in the sense that we are still talking to each other, but it was a costly, excruciating week of stressful togetherness. Take heed: 1) everyone who needs their own room gets a bedroom. Don’t assume that grandpa and grandma, sleeping in separate bedrooms for 20 years, will somehow be able to share a bed for the duration. There are good reasons that they sleep apart. 2) Stay in a hotel and let someone else do the cooking and cleaning. We rented a house, entailing HOURS every DAY in shopping, cooking, dishwashing, laundry, and a big clean-up at the end. NOT a vacation in my book! 3) Make the stay equal to the attractions. We lingered a week in an area that had 3 days worth of attractions. It would have cost less for an enjoyable shorter stay in that nice hotel with room service and maids. 4) Make sure there is a beach or pool close by to occupy the kids. They popped the kiddy pool we brought on the first day and had to be driven to a distant lake. 5) Don’t assume self-catering is cheaper — after stocking the fridge, freezer, and coolers daily, we had to dump food and supplies that no one had space to truck home. It would have the same for free continental breakfast, modest lunch, and lavish dinners for all at restaurants. 6) If you are bringing elderly/disabled, give them every consideration. Both seniors spent days in discomfort, sleep deprivation, and unnecessary pain due to poor planning and thoughtlessness on the part of the larger group. Gramma, Grandpa, take an active role in the vacation planning and don’t assume your needs will be met. You have a say as participants! 7) Don’t assume the kids are safe because they are in the bosom of family. Parents drop their guard around family, as a result no one is really paying attention to the kids. The worst that happened to ours is that they got away with eating junk food for a week. But kids wander off, get lost, drown, climb live antenna masts, you’ve heard it happen to ‘other people’ don’t let it be you — always designate someone to be on point while the rest of the family is preoccupied with partying.
Every rose has its thorns. Our ‘perfect getaway’ was convenient to both landfill and cow pastures, thus the fly problem was nightmarish. The beautiful pine house with no rugs or wall hangings echoed every laugh, catcall, kid-screech, TV show, MP3 program, footfall and door slam in its three stories, ensuring that all slept only when the last man went down, and all arose with the earliest riser. It was a courageous first whole-family vacation for us, and I’m relieved that I’ve been there, done that; and learned how to ensure that next time is more enjoyable!
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Shari Heinz
July 28th, 2009
7:54 pm
In the year leading up to my first time at camp as a scout, the troop worked to sell items to be able to afford the 2 weeks. We were all about 12 years old and some of us had never been away for a day, so 2 weeks was going to be an Adventure.
I selected 2 weeks in the middle of the entire summer, which meant that girls going there for longer stays would have formed friendships and tent mates.
I remember the meeting at the firehouse for drop off, getting on to the bus and riding it to up-state New York somewhere, having to walk, over a bridge, down a long trial, past the pit toilets and all the tents on platforms dragging my gear. We spent meals in the main canteen, rotating tasks daily of table setup, clean up and dishes, there was not getting out of your responsibilities. Camp fires and swimming in a lake.
On one group hike, we carried our sleeping bags and some other gear, needed for an easy sleepover at the lean to, about a mile or so up the trail. As we started out, the counselors were not sure of the trail blazes to follow and the group got split up. Soon we came to the shelter, but it was already occupied by other hikers. Meanwhile it started to rain and while waiting for the rains to let up, a fire was started in the fireplace. As the rock heated up a big black snake that was resting on the chimney rocks soon felt the warmth of the fire and dropped off right onto the shoulders of one of the counselors who scream and danced about in an attempt to get the snake off her. It was quickly decided that we could not stay there with the other hikers or the snake, so it was back on the trails; soon we were hopelessly lost and just walking about. As dusk started to set in, we came to an opening that had a few yellow buses parked. It happened to be another camp. We were told to board the buses and wait. Some of the seat cushions were missing and we had to rest on the metal frames or against the wall until our camp was notified and the buses were sent for us. Wet and tired some of use slept. The bus arrived what seemed like hours later along with a few counselors and their cars. As we divided up into groups and got into the bus and cars, we thought the adventure was over, but for some it was just beginning. As two of the car get into an accident and several of the campers spent the night at hospital. After that we were not allowed on any other group activities that meant the counselors taking us out of camp, the rest of the time left was devoted to letters to home, crafts and swimming in a Safe area pen.
To say the least, I never when back to that camp or another.
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Derek Jackson
July 29th, 2009
4:14 am
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Manbird
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Patrick
July 29th, 2009
1:45 pm
Kelly O….of course you had to be one of the first to comment on here. Hope your baby is doing well. I’ll have to make my way over to visit sometime. Miss you guys!
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Jordan
July 29th, 2009
2:05 pm
I went to camp at YMCA Camp Piomingo in Kentucky. My first year there was when I was 7 years old. My brothers had both been the summer before (when I was too young, technically!) and I was so jealous I couldn’t see straight. When I finally got to go, I went for two weeks. My first counselor, Chris, was the guy from the camp counselor poem – running in the cabin in the middle of the night, in a tutu waking us up telling us we’re going to do something. He made it perfect. So much so that I kept returning each summer and later became a CIT and a staff member. All in all 13 wonderful summers spent at Piomingo. While I had a great time as a camper, it was the reward of making a positive impact in the life of a child that I value most from my years as a counselor, aquatics director, program director…etc.
The memory that always sticks out in my mind (aside from all the funny ones) is the time I stayed over the weekend to be a counselor for a specialty camp. We normally had the weekends off, but I volunteered to work that weekend for some reason. The weekend was the V.I.P.S. Camp – Visually Imparied Pre-Schoolers, for visually impaired kids, their siblings and parents, in 1992. Most of the kids were totally blind, or at least had such impairments that they could only determine light and darkness. It was definitely a challenge to constantly remind myself that my normal physical comedy antics wouldn’t be such a hot sell to this crowd. We did all of the big ticket camp items that weekend: mudslide, caving (where I was reminded how awesome these kids were again), swimming, arts and crafts, etc. It was in arts and crafts that for the first time I could put myself in their shoes. I did a painted rock with a camper (Jamie) who was born blind. He was awesome. I asked him, in my blunt/honest style, how were we going to do this (he was 9 going on 30). He just told me to describe the colors to him. I know it sounds like a scene in a movie, but there we sat under the large maple tree that hangs over the multi-colored, tattered, “Arts-N-Crafts” cabin, as I described colors to him and let him choose which ones he wanted to use. He ended up with a fresh cut grass, hot sunny day, cinnamon, popsicle colored rock. And I ended up learning a lot from a kid.
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Sarah Dasher Watton
July 29th, 2009
2:15 pm
I went to Camp Illahee for girls in beautiful Brevard, North Carolina for several wonderful summers. Every spring, I would spend hours poring over the camp brochure, carefully selecting which courses I would be enjoying during my three weeks in North Carolina. Seventh grade year, I was bored by the prospect of tie-dying tees and sculpting clay doo dads for yet another summer in Arts & Crafts. I wanted to try something exciting, something different (and not as scary as say, rockclimbing or whitewater rafting). One of the more peculiar options was a class called “Printmaking”, in which girls would learn to “handcraft stationery and other printed items” using an old-fashioned Platen printing press.
In June, I found myself amidst a small circle of campers surrounding a medieval looking iron contraption in the dark basement of a camp lodge. As the counselor explained how the press worked, I began to seriously doubt my decision to spend my afternoons in this manner. However, I soon learned to enjoy the methodical process of setting letters and shapes into the type mold and locking them into the press to be flattened against sheets of paper. I also liked the teamwork required to operate the press: one girl in charge of loading the type mold into the press, while another turned the wheel that drove the plates together.
These two steps were intended to be done independently of one another, but I had the unfortunate occasion to learn firsthand what happens when done in tandem. You see, one afternoon, a younger camper was partnered with me to turn the wheel. She was somehow distracted, and began to turn the wheel before I had fully extracted myself from loading in a mold. In slow motion, I watched the edges of the plates biting down toward my suddenly vulnerable looking hands. And narrowly missing escape, I felt the most excruciating pain my 13-year-old self had ever known as the iron clamped down on my right index finger.
The agony was so intense that I proceeded to pass out in the dank basement, only to awake in the arms of the counselor selflessly carrying me up the hill to the infirmary. The camp nurse cheerfully splinted my throbbing finger and sent me on my way with a warning to keep it elevated as much as possible. This required a lot of walking around appearing as if I was aimlessly pointing into the distance. By supper that night in the dining hall, my freak accident and bizarre new pointer stance had become the center of camp attention. And to add further insult, my bunkmates rolled mercilessly on the cabin floor in laughter as my counselor tied my splint with string to the bed coils above my lower bunk so that I could of course keep my injured digit aloft. It wasn’t until August, while boating on my hometown lake, that the mangled nail fell off. Conveniently, in front of my entire youth group. I’ve stuck to humdrum Arts & Crafts ever since.
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James
July 29th, 2009
3:40 pm
I am a Scoutmaster for a Boy Scout Troop. I took my scouts to Woodruff Scout Resevation this year. Usually the first day is very hectic in registration, moving into your campsite, and making sure the scouts take their swim test.
This particular Sunday was very hot and every one was wore out and went to bed early. This is my third summer camp with the scouts and I have never encountered home sickness from any scout. Around midnight of the first night one of the younger scouts came and knocked on my tent and told me he was ready to go home. Initially he really startled me and this was my first brush with homesickness. I told him we would call his mom the next day. We prepped the mothers of the boys for situations like this. She stayed strong and made him stay the whole week even though he begged her to come get him.
Well, this scout looked depressed the whole week. One evening we had a horseback ride. In order to get on the horses each boy had to have a permission form. When we got to the stable the homesick scout asked me could he tear up his permission form. I asked him why. He looked me in my eyes and said, “The horses don’t look this big on TV.” I laughed and made him get on the horse. After the ride he had the biggest smile on his face for the first time that week. That smile alone made taking a week vacation from work worth going to summer camp.
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Mike in Chamblee
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
I went to summer camp several years in a row with my church. At the time, I wasn’t all that keen on the idea. Especially, the days and hours leading up to the time which I actually had to leave my parents and go with a bunch of boys and girls that I didn’t really like all that much. Amazingly, those same kids provided some of my fondest memories and became best friends.
Those skits were the worst! At least so I thought before I actually took part in one. I was horrified at the prospect. My parents never warned me about this! This shy Mama’s boy was quite surprised to find out how much fun it actually was to get up on stage and show what summer camp was all about. I made some really good friends while we rehearsed for those skits.
Over coming fears, getting in trouble, getting away with things that kids get away with at camp, crushes on girls, all helped form the over all experience and fuse those memories into my psyche so that I would never forget. One of the most memorable was seeing my pastor, quiet and reserved, turn into a young child right before my eyes as he smeared whipped cream in my face during a giant food fight! From that point on, his sermons always seemed a little more real to me.
Every day was an adventure waiting to happen. I felt like some hobbit on an errand with Gandalf as we went on hikes through the woods, took canoes into the lake, swam and played day and night. The nightly campfire stories still resonate deep inside. I can’t wait to turn into a kid again when I can tell them to my kids when they’re older. Each and every child should get a chance to have summer camp memories to carry with them the rest of their lives.
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Tiffany Doby
July 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
One time at band camp…. LOL Just kidding…but I had to say that because every summer I would spend a week at band camp. Hello my name is Tiffany and I am now 28 years old. I know many of you have seen the movie American Pie….very funny movie…but very misleading about band camp. At least with my camp exsperiance.
To be honest most all of the week I would find myself with all my fellow band “nerds” fighting the heat, the bugs and our “Sargent” band teacher.. From the crack of dawn till night time feel, we would march. Working on our positions and our notes…either on the field or during an inside rehersal.
There were a couple of exciting things that happened during the 4 years of band camp that I attended. One year there was a talent show. All the girls in my cabin decided to do a scene from the musical Greece…which might I add is like every bandies favorite movie…LOL… We won the talent contest and it was great fun. One year we had a dance. It was a combination of our school and another schools band that was also there for band camp… It was nice but everyone was shy and kinda stuck to thier own…. One year a couple girls snuck out to meet some boys from another school…NO NOT ME..LOL However it was very entertaining to all of us because they got busted and we all awoke to them marching up and down the street as punishment at 3am.
Truth be told I spent most of the week missing my boyfriend and family back home. I spent forever on the phone talking to everyone. One time the operator kept cutting in telling me to deposit more money. Finally she broke in on the line….I didn’t even know they could do that…she told me I better deposit more money. I informed her I had no more money and good luck finding me…I was one of the hundreds of kids at band camp!!! LOL
One year I did find a guy that was new to our school that seemed really cool. I really liked him. He would always come to my cabin and ask to talk me and we would swim and hang out together. I had finally found a friend. I thought he was kinda cute and thought to myself…hey maybe we could hook up. Turned out he was gay. LOL That is about the story of my life. My soon to be husband knows all to well. Anytime I point out a guy that I think is hot… he turns out to be gay. Adam Lambert I love you!!!
Every year we stayed in the same place…Rock Eagle. It was a wonderful camp and if you ever have an oppertunity to send your child there I suggest you do so…just make sure you pack them lots of snacks. I thought the food was ok…but everyone always seems to be starving and looking for a snack machine.LOL
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Kerrie Kelly
July 31st, 2009
10:40 am
Ah, summer camp. Remember swimming in the lake, cooking out, making s’mores over the campfire, endless bug bites and stifling heat?
I do. My son was fortunate enough to participate in Sandlot Sports Camp this July, which is directed by my friend, Kim Johnson and facilitated by her team of tireless volunteers. I was fortunate to be able to participate too, with all things food, from planning, to clean up and every conceivable craziness in between.
Nothing in my foodservice career had prepared me for the emotional roller coaster a pack of eighty kids can drive.
Having an eight year old of my own, I’ve certainly heard my share of, “I don’t eat that.”, but I was at times overwhelmed by the snubs worthy of a cruel adult, only to be followed with a feeling of elation brought on by equally approving grunts, mmmm’s, and the occaisonal compliment. I didn’t know which way to turn. I was being tested, I knew it!
Seriously, how do you keep that many hungry tummys happy at mealtime? I believe in my heart the answer is, tacos.
The real answer, of course, is that you can’t please them all, and it’s not necessary to try. Most of these kids just want to know that someone cares about them, whether it’s taking the time to make a good meal for them or just paying them some sincere attention.
I can’t say I’ve ever worked that hard for that long – five days. Five long days, not including the days of prep before and clean up after. Could it be possible that Mario Batalli and Anthony Bourdain never have moments of weakness and self-pity?
After being a small part of this great Sandlot Sports Camp adventure and watching the other volunteers pour their hearts and souls into helping these kids blossom, I could only rub some dirt on my imagined wounds and have a new appreciation for those who give freely of themselves to show others a better way.
As I soak my feet and reflect, I realize we should all have more ’summer camp’ in our lives.
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Kay Chapman
July 31st, 2009
12:53 pm
There are reasons I cried so hard when my parents came to pick me up, after what seemed like an agonizing eternity, from the Gitmo, I mean, Girl Scout Summer Camp. I went into this whole camping thing expecting to have the kind of fun that Hayley Mills sang about (”Let’s get together, yea yea yea!”) in the original classic Disney movie “The Parent Trap”, but nooooooo, it was more like “Friday the 13th”. Shudder. I still have nightmares about the whole ordeal.
I had never been away from home by myself, but hey, I wasn’t going to be lonely because there were other little hyper ten-year-olds, who, just like me, got suckered into signing onto this “I’m a Girl Scout, Get Me Out of Here!” reality gig. And that crying I heard at night wasn’t gonna remind me that I was homesick either.
Things got ugly pretty fast. The Camp Counselors, made it clear that there assignments were to torture and frighten us. They made us walk nature paths to pick up ticks and be bitten by millions of mosquitos. We went “snipe”-hunting, clicking sticks together along the way, hoping to find the elusive creatures, all the while listening to warnings of “watch for snakes.” Their campaign was working. I still watch for snakes. Shudder.
The torture was amped up. We were forced to do awful cleaning duties. The showers. We scrubbed the finish off of those fungal chambers with PineSol. I still hate that smell. If it was your day to clean the “Latrines”, you wondered if you could get out of that horrible job by pretending to be sick. I still hate that smell, too.
Those counselors really socked it to us when it came to our mealtimes. The “three Girl Scout bites or 5 Brownie bites” rule was to me the ultimate plan of evilness. The goal was to make sure we got our fiber, so prunes were served at breakfast. Can you imagine the sound of a room full of girls sitting at banquet tables, gagging their hearts out? Shudder.
Somewhere between all the scratching, hacking and scrubbing there were some moments where I treasure what I learned besides the important ones of survival essential to being a Girl Scout. I learned that I was capable of singing (I was picked to sing solo at Talent Night, although off key), to roast marshmallows and to discover that Pepsodent toothpaste tasted pretty good as a little snack.
Still, there’s no place like home.
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Tammy
July 31st, 2009
3:01 pm
When I was a kid I went to a summer camp and looking back, I do not know why in the world my parents allowed me to attend. I cannot remember the name of the church however it was a kids church and a bus would come around to neighborhoods and pick kids up to take them to the church. By the way I would never allow my child to get on a bus with strangers to go to a church but anyway. The church was having a week camp session and all of the kids in my neighborhood were going. I remember getting up early in the morning to get on the bus to go to camp. My parents sent me with about $15.00 which was not enough but I will get to that later.
When we first arrived to the camp I thought we were in another country somewhere. I had no idea where we were, and still don’t. But anyway we had to go in the middle of the campground and sing church songs everyday after exercising at the crack of dawn. First weird event, if you mess up on the song you had to kiss a pole. Yes, kiss a pole!!!! Then we went to our rooms which were cabins. In the morning you had get up make up your bed and stand beside it until the counselors/inspectors came. Every day the cabin who had the neatest beds would win a prize. Well, my cabin never won and you will see more about this at the end of the story. We would ride horses and exercise in the morning. We would go to bible study class and have outside competitions which were pretty fun. After the 2nd day I was out of money and had to resort to extreme measures. One of my fellow campers and I were sitting around starving for snacks and just could not wait until dinner so we thought why don’t we borrow some of the other campers snacks, we are sure they will not miss it. So we messed up all the beds to pretend someone broke into the cabins (which were in the middle of no-where land). And we ate some chips, cookies and drinks that did not belong to us. Well, our roommates came back mad because 1) they worked hard to make up the beds so we could win but we never did and they were ruined now and 2) because someone ate their snacks. So they asked us what happened and we said we don’t know it was like this when we got here and everyone was staring at me and I wondered why. One of the girls who was missing her chips said “wipe the crumbs from my chips off of your face.” We were busted and I will never forget that camping experience and I have never taken anything that did not belong to me again.
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Cheryl Norwood
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
I have often been a chaperone at children and youth camps through church. My favorite things about camp are the kids and my least favorite…the kids! For example, when I was chaperoning a week of camp with my fifth grade sunday school class in South Georgia, I noticed one of my girls was not showering. I took her aside and asked if there was a problem. She said she didn’t need to shower since they went swimming at the pool during the day. One of the other girls overhead her and said to the girl “but the little kids pee in the pool.” Not what I would have said, but it did the trick—she took a shower IMMEDIATELY after pool time every day! My worse camp experiences have to do with teenage girls talking–talking—talking. All day, all night, when your tired old bones are already pained from sleeping on those thin cabin mattresses. You can’t wear out the mouths of teen age girls. Never volunteer to sleep in the same cabin. Sleep in your car if you have to, I say!
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Tricia
July 31st, 2009
11:47 pm
Every summer I would attend Girl Scout camp in North Georgia. I loved going to camp, but there was one thing I always dreaded: the swimming test. A few hours after arriving at camp, the counselor would call everyone to put on their bathing suits. Most girls were excited to put on their bathing suits and jump in the pool, but swimming has never been strength of mine.
The swim test consisted of swimming the length of the pool and treading water for 2 minutes. When it came time for my test, I dog paddled about half the pool and then just walked the rest of the length of the pool. I would then attempt to tread water for about a minute before I had to cling to the side or be pulled out by a lifeguard before I drowned. I always ended up in the beginner swimming group, which consisted of wearing a bright red bathing cap and staying only in the shallow end of the pool for the duration of the summer. I hated it because there were several years that I was the only girl who got a red cap. All of the other girls wore green bathing caps and would play only in the deep end of the pool. I had to stand all alone in the shallow end of the pool.
I became a camp counselor at the same camp while I was in college. One of the first things we did was take a swim test. It consisted of one length of the pool and 2 minutes of treading water. I had taken some swimming lessons while at college and hoped I was prepared for the test. I swam one length of the pool doing free style and then made it the full 2 minutes of treading water. Yes! I finally got my “green cap”!
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Kerry Sartain
August 1st, 2009
11:10 am
Over my 61 years I have participated in many summer camps with the Boy Scouts of America, first as a camper, then a camp staff member, a camper at Philmont in New Mexico, and later as a Scouter. I have many fond memories of camps over the Southeast and especially here in Georgia.
However, the most memorable camp experience was my very first week of camp as an 11 year old Boy Scout. This occurred at the “Old Camp Bert Adams”. For those that are thinking about Bert Adams Boy Scout Reservation in Covington, that is not the place. The “Old Camp Bert Adams” was located where Cumberland Mall is now located. The office park adjacent and to the West of the mall was the center of camp activities. The lake that is in the middle of the apartments there was where I qualified for the Canoeing Merit Badge that first summer. Of course, in 1959, that area was a wild, wooded area apart from the city of Atlanta. No malls, no interstate highways, no 4-lane highways, and not much in the way of businesses existed.
The trip to camp started Sunday afternoon with a bus ride with my other BSA Troop 164 members all the way from Decatur to Vinings, as going through Vinings was the only access to the camp. Vinnings was an old rundown train station, and a couple of old houses on a very narow, twisted road. The bus trip seemed like an eternity. It was hot. It was crowded. It was loud. Not a very good start for the week I thought.
Once the bus unloaded at camp we were shown to our campsite which was made up of a number of adirondacks (three sided wooden structures with a wooden floor and a large overhanging roof). These adirondacks had three bunk beds so they accommodated six campers each. I quickly learned my first lesson of summer camp, “Every Man for Himself”, as all the experienced campers dashed into adirondacks and claimed their bunk. I was left behind with some other Tenderfoot Scouts to try to find the open spaces. As luck would have it, I found a bottom bunk open. I would later learn why no one else wanted that bottom bunk. The top bunk was occupied by a Second Class Scout called “Pinky” by the rest of the troop.
It seems Pinky had an aversion to things natural. Anything that moved was of interest to Pinky. While we spread out our sleeping bags and organized our packs and boxes in the adirondack, Pinky searched about the campsite under rocks and logs and found about six scorpions, three spiders, a lizard and a small garter snake. He brought them all back to the adirondak and placed them in a cardboard box located on his bunk.
That afternoon we had our physical exams and completed our swimming tests. Two laps of the pool, two minutes free floating, and we were judged as “swimmers”. Anything less were “beginners”. We were given our “buddy tags” which were hung on a hook with our buddy each time we went into the water. Finally, exhausted after all that had occurred that afternoon, we were lead to the dining hall where we would have all our meals for the upcoming week. Actually the food was pretty good. The most interesting part was the “bug juice” which was the cool aid that was mixed up in large quantities and seemed to end up covering most of the tables and campers before each meal was completed. In the dining hall we sang songs and performed chants that extolled the greatness of our troop to the others.
After dinner the first campfire of the week was awsome. An indian fired a flaming arrow into the stack of wood that immediately burst into flame and lighted up the entire area for the rest of the evening. Songs and skits followed with the campfire ending with a story. We then made our way back to camp through the dark woods. The first night did not offer much sleep as I wondered what would be in store on Monday.
Now Old Bert Adams was very hilly terrain. There were almost no flat spots on the property. There was one area that had been leveled to create a small ball field. There was also an adjacent Quonset hut used for activities during rainy weather. The parade ground in front of the old dining hall was also flat but very small. The flagpole was located in the center of the parade ground and all the troops assembled around the flag pole several times a day. In the mornings each troop was accounted for and the flag was raised as the bugler sounded the appropriate bugle call. Then the campers filed in to their assigned tables for breakfast. After each meal one camper from each table had KP duty and had to clean the table and sweep the floor.
In the evenings the troops gathered at the flag pole and stood at attention as the bugler sounded “To The Colors” as the flag was lowered. After dinner there was usually some free time to work on merit badge requirements, write letters or just rest.
During daytime, however, the hours were packed with activities with merit badge classes in Swimming, Lifesaving, Canoeing, Rowing, Hiking, Camping, Nature, Forestry, Cooking, Marksmanship and many others. Being a young scout I had not earned any merit badges yet. I was able to work on Swimming and Canoeing, and to go to the rifle range to try to qualify as Marksman and Pro-Marksman.
Pinky, on the other hand, took the Nature Merit Badge and spent the remainder of his time looking for snakes. The area proved to be abundantly blessed with snakes. As of Friday he had gathered at least 20 snakes which he kept in the cardboard box on his bunk.
Friday afternoon my shooting at the rifle range qualified me as Pro-Marksman. With my certificate in hand I excitedly ran up and down the hills through the woods toward our campsite to tell everyone what I had done. Suddenly I found myself hurtling through the air after tripping over something, and a large rock found my knee as I landed, creating a two inch gash. After making it back to the campsite my scoutmaster took me to the first aid center where I learned I was not the only patient. Another camper had recently swallowed a yellow jacket with a swig from a Coke bottle and it had stung him in the throat. The three of us loaded into the first aid director’s car and headed for Kennestone hospital in Marietta.
Now Kennestone was quite a bit smaller than it is now, and it seemed much farther away. Also along the way to Kennestone it seems like we only saw just a few other automobiles. It was nothing like the highways full of cars and endless shops and stores along that route today. At Kennestone I received my obligatory stitches after a long wait while they treated my suffering fellow camper. It was so late we had missed supper at the dining hall, so we stopped for a hamburger, then continued back to camp.
When I arrived at my campsite I found the troop had already left for the hike up Mount Atkinson and the weekly Friday campfire. I was very disappointed to miss this last campfire. There would be many more in my future. When my fellow campers returned to the campsite it was time for bed. We were all worn out from a very active week. Tomorrow we would be heading home.
That’s when I saw it. Pinky’s box of snakes on the top bunk was open. The flaps were obviously raised. Pinky checked the box and all the snakes were gone. He bagan a frantic search for his captives, but they were not found. OK, it was time to go to bed. My next thought was “I wonder if any of them found their way into my sleeping bag on the bottom bunk”. I certainly was not going to let the others know I might have even the first thought of being scared. It took every manley thought I could muster to slowly stick that first foot all the way to the bottom of the sleeping bag and feel around to make sure none of Pinky’s friends were there.
Even though the bag was clear, I could only lay awake and think about it all night. The next morning I was exhausted. We loaded up the bus and made it back home that afternoon, but the box of snakes was something I would never forget.
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Natalie Nicholas Adams
August 3rd, 2009
8:58 am
When Elvis Left the Building …
I was at camp when Elvis died. This wasn’t your usual camp by any means. This was a camp for children with special needs and I was a counselor to 3 girls with Downe’s Syndrome in upstate New York.
I remember that day well. We had no phones, papers or TVs in our secluded camp in the woods. Right before dinner, one of the rather larger male campers decided to play leap frog over my head in the parking lot and without my consent! The last thing I remember was hearing was my face as it smashed against the gravel. The camp nurse (who actually lived near by)began to clean me up but was crying uncontrollably. I was thinking, “Am I going to die? Is my face going to be scarred for life?” Then the nurse finally calmed down enough to tell me that Elvis was dead.
Up until that moment, my first week at camp was the best week of my life. My favorite memory was watching the campers who were wheelchair bound go swimming! Each camper wore a life vest and then they were wheeled directly into the lake and where they became weightless and free. That is an image and a moment I will never forget.
So every year when the media announces how many years it has been since Elvis died – I remember playing leap with a giant and swimming with the dolphins at camp… and that Elvis had left the building for the last time.
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Camp Cherokee
August 3rd, 2009
9:15 am
Every summer growing up, I attended Camp Cherokee at Cherokee Retreat Center near Cartersville, GA, which is operated by a group of Presbyterian churches – all in North GA. One of my fondest memories and best camp stories was years ago when I was a counselor. That year, our interim camp director was somewhat less than involved in the day to day activities, and liked to “manage” from afar. This was okay with us counselors for the most part, but we ended up planning and directing all of the activities for the children, electing a “head counselor in charge”, and generally leading the best way we knew how. Because almost all had been counselors before, it worked just like clockwork! That summer, we built the best team environment I’ve ever worked in to this day.
Having said that, that summer it rained every day because there was a hurricane remnant sitting over the state for weeks on end. Being a camp, most of our activities were outdoors, so this seriously crimped our style. Enter the creative genius of us counselors! What’s a fun activity you can do outside in the rain and not worry about getting wet? Slip n slide! Only, we didn’t have our own, so we made it out of a big blue tarp. Off we went to the field, where we and several other counselors proceeded to make a “mud pit” at the bottom of a small hill, placed the tarp so that you would have about 15 feet of sliding area, and grabbed all the dish soap we could find from the kitchens. Needless to say, the kids had a ball, and we spent the better portion of that afternoon getting completely muddy and soapy. 40 kids covered in frothy mud with their counselors right beside them and covered in equal amounts of mud is a sight to see. To wrap things up, we all walked down to the pool where we happily jumped in to clean off the mud, and ended up turning the lovely blue pool green. The caretaker was none too happy about the condition of the pool, and it took about a week for it to stop looking like the lake, but I will never, ever forget that experience! To all my co-counselors that summer, if you’re reading this….”MUD!!”
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August 4th, 2009
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Ashley Ebong
August 4th, 2009
9:23 pm
That must have been pain full.What kind of “camp friends” laugh at you.It could have happend to anyody.
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Ashley Ebong
August 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
BORING
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Ashley Ebong
August 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
LAME LAME LAME!!!!!!!!
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Ashley Ebong
August 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
:/
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John
August 5th, 2009
8:47 am
We did our quick trip to northest Georgia the end of last week since my wife is a teacher and had top start back to work Monday. It was great. Georgia students are in school in August. However, they get out by the end of May, which leaves all of June–when the weather is usually much better than August–free for vacations. Most of the schools up north don’t get out until mid to late June. We have taken advantage of that the last couple of years by going to places like Maine and the New Jersey shore in early June when their rates were cheap (because their students were in school, the places were much less crowded, and the weather was much cooler. Let’s keep our current school schedules.
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John
August 5th, 2009
8:49 am
Sorry for all the typos in my last post (two incorrectly spelled words and an open parenthesis). If I could go back and edit it, I would but this site doesn’t give me that option.
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Keith
August 5th, 2009
9:24 am
Hey John –
I didn’t mean to imply we should change school schedules — just noting that prices down here are cheaper in in August when we’re all back in school. Where did you go in Maine? We are considering making a trip up there too. How was the water temperature in June? Was it too cold to wade out into the ocean?
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John
August 5th, 2009
10:28 am
We flew to Boston and drove to Bar Harbor. We spent a lot of time in Acadia National Park but also drove up the coast to the easternmost point in the United States. The temperatures varied over the course of five days. The water was cold but you could wade. We went out on one of the sailing ships one afternoon and you needed a jacket when the ship got up to speed. There were no crowds except on the day one of the cruise ships made a stop in Bar Harbor and all of the people on the ship made their shore excursions.
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Sarah Dasher Watton
August 5th, 2009
10:39 am
Oh, they were laughing with me. It was all in good fun. I had to laugh at myself to get through that pain! The sad thing is, I have many other camp klutz stories and took several trips to the camp infirmary over the years . . .
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August 5th, 2009
11:22 am
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Jomal
August 6th, 2009
1:06 am
To my surprise, my brother-in-law offered to take our daughter on vacation with his family in a few weeks (to keep his daughter company of course). They’re going to Destin for five days, which gives us five days to do ANYTHING! I told my wife I’ll plan it and tell her how to pack. Thinking Vegas, San Diego or Martha’s Vineyard. All three have been on “the list” for years, and I’d like to scratch one off. What to do???
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Angie Van Matre
August 6th, 2009
5:35 pm
I would like to vote for “slip ‘n slide” as the best summer camp story.
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Angie Van Matre
August 6th, 2009
5:38 pm
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Kay Dempsey
August 6th, 2009
6:18 pm
Sounds like FUN!
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Judy Hotchkiss
August 6th, 2009
10:37 pm
School just started today here in Tennessee. For those of us IN the B&B business, I can tell you when to get the best late-season bang for your buck–Come to the NE Tenn./NW North Carolina/SW VA Mountains. Plan your trip between now and October (that high season to see the leaves. More color equals more room cost and more traffic).
I personally think September is the most underrated month. Prices are moderate, crowds are nonexistent and the air is fresh, and dry. A few trees will begin to turn; the wildflowers are still abundant. Here in Mountain City, TN, the trees won’t be quite in fall color (but I think Atlanta’s fall leaves can be just as nice….). What you will find is lots of rural mountains, openfields, forests, a great lake still warm enough to enjoy (Watauga Lake), hiking galore and very, very fresh air. My own property comes in at $99-$169 per night. We serve a full breakfast and provide free in-room snacks making for savings. We also rent a cottage (for kids and dogs), as do many others. Mind you, THIS IS NOT GATLINBURG. We don’t have a whole lot of shopping “in the mountains.” You can go to Boone if you need some of that! Restaurants are nice (and moderate priced compared to “city” prices.) I’m exactly 300 miles from Five Points. If you haven’t seen this area, maybe it’s time to check it out.
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sandi bonner
August 7th, 2009
4:34 pm
Wow I enjoyed the story I remember going camping and always worried about something in my sleeping bag. This brought back those memories. Thanks for taking me back
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August 10th, 2009
10:48 am
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August 10th, 2009
10:54 am
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August 11th, 2009
10:02 am
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August 11th, 2009
10:45 am
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August 11th, 2009
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August 11th, 2009
10:59 am
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Margaret Dunstan
August 12th, 2009
7:48 am
love it!
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Glenda Godefroy
August 12th, 2009
10:31 am
Well done!
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Emily Sullivan
August 14th, 2009
7:39 am
Vote for Vegas baby!!
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PASTEL
August 14th, 2009
3:35 pm
Honestly, all the stories were pretty lame. Didn’t someone out there have anything better or exciting happen to them?
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Jennifer Mathis
August 14th, 2009
3:37 pm
Vote for Arts & Crafts Accident!
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Kim
August 14th, 2009
9:41 pm
Seriously the Pull my Finger was hilarious, can’t we all relate to this one??? I have 2 brothers…imagine!
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Louisa Dasher
August 15th, 2009
3:20 am
“Arts and Crafts Accident” is the best…well-written, funny, entertaining!
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Larry Russell
August 15th, 2009
9:10 am
My vote is for Pull my Finger. I had a similar experience as well. Great job Mr. Ed Fussell
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Bonnie
August 15th, 2009
9:39 am
Vote for the camp mishap: well-written and something even the “ancients” in our lives can relate to!!!
Best of luck!!
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Carol Gross
August 15th, 2009
11:29 pm
Well written and entertaining reading.
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JAMES W. Claxton
August 16th, 2009
5:43 pm
could identify with–had a similar experience when I was in camp one summer many yearsw ago.
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JAMES W. Claxton
August 16th, 2009
5:44 pm
Great story!
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Kathy
August 17th, 2009
1:17 am
Good story. I would like to vote for the art and crafts accident story. How and where do I vote?
Thanks.
KLB
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Cris
August 17th, 2009
10:33 am
Pull my finger brings back some great memories for me as well.
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Karen F
August 17th, 2009
11:30 am
loved the Arts and Crafts Accident!!
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M. Gamez
August 17th, 2009
12:06 pm
Yes, sounds familar. Funny.
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Curtis
August 17th, 2009
12:48 pm
I vote for Pull My Finger!!!!
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Florence
August 17th, 2009
2:13 pm
“We met at a hostel” — delicious! Makes me want to pack my suitcase!
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Vanessa
August 17th, 2009
5:20 pm
you said “doo-dads,” that’s great!
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Jeanne
August 17th, 2009
5:39 pm
When does this contest/voting end? I wanna see a winner and let’s move on. Can’t the editor blog the answer to this burning question?
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yada juntarapaso
August 17th, 2009
6:10 pm
Love the story!!
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cynthia bowles davis
August 17th, 2009
6:13 pm
Hope Sarah wins!
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Courtney Waite Smith
August 17th, 2009
7:59 pm
GO SARAH!
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Laura Sherrouse
August 17th, 2009
11:33 pm
Arts & Crafts (the one to vote for)reminds me of my one and only camp trip. Somebody closed a door shut and locked it while my finger was in the jam! Lost the nail shrtly thereafter!
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Nickie
August 18th, 2009
7:56 am
We go to New Orleans to EAT!!! From Commander’s Palace in the Garden District to local neighborhood dives and everything in between. The classics – Arnaud’s Antoin’s, Court of Two Sisters, Galitoire’s – in the French Quarter. Po Boys just about everywhere, incredible oysters at Acme Oyster House and fried or boiled seafood at Deanie’s. The best is a backyard crawfish boil at a friend’s home.
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Nickie
August 18th, 2009
8:07 am
I spend some time in Seattle each year visiting family and my must sees are Mt. St. Helens, the North Cascades, the Boeing assembly plant in Everette, a ferry ride just about anywhere, the Olympic National Park with a trip up to Hurricane Ridge. I love SeaFair in the summer with the air show over Lake Washington – with the Blue Angels. Tulip fields in bloom in the spring, apple orchards in bloom, a ride along the Pacific coast. On a late night flight out of SeaTac airport I once saw the northern lights over Mr. Rainier! Mt. Rainier is awesome either up close or on a lovely clear day from anywhere in the Seattle area.
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Mary Kraack
August 18th, 2009
8:43 am
Vegas twins should have asked the man if they could bring their children along!
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Chris Key
August 18th, 2009
10:26 am
I can’t find where to vote for the Vegas Story…HELP?!?!?!
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August 18th, 2009
10:38 am
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August 18th, 2009
10:39 am
[...] Vegas Nights: Mistaken Identity by Jo Ann Swofford of Sautee Nacoochee. [...]
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August 18th, 2009
10:39 am
[...] The winning Summer Camp story [...]
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Wesley
August 18th, 2009
2:04 pm
Fussell you are brilliant! Once again you have stimulated the minds of America’s youth. Who would’ve though a Distinguished Professor could come up with such literary genious! Was this composed over hot wings and brews? Bravo Bravo!!! This rivals all poll training stories!
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August 18th, 2009
2:08 pm
[...] The winning romantic story [...]
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Sarah Dasher Watton
August 18th, 2009
10:06 pm
Congratulations, Ms. Swafford, and also to all the other finalists. It was a contest fairly fought and quite the pleasure. I hope you have a delightful trip to Ponte Vedra!
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sbrequa
August 19th, 2009
12:32 am
Got my vote…can just picture all the kids in the back seat for the long drive….and mom’s reaction!
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Jo Ann Swafford
August 19th, 2009
2:07 pm
Thank you, Ms. Watton. I agree with you. It was fun. Never been to Ponte Vedra, so I’m looking forward to the trip.
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deeter
August 19th, 2009
8:26 pm
I’m predicting you get arrested for prostitution while you are there.
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Ellen Mitchell
August 20th, 2009
12:24 pm
Way to go girl! You wouldn’t happen to have an extra ticket? Have fun. Ellen
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Jo Ann Swafford
August 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
For my favorite art teacher, I certainly would!! Thanks for the shout out!
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Voice or Reason#1
August 22nd, 2009
9:03 am
I LOVE the Ponte Vedra Inn & Club. And having a room on the first floor is like having the ocean in my backyard. I know I shouldn’t have, but I’ve often left my door ajar and just taken a walk or a dip in the ocean. And the rooms are SO romantic. It’s rough going there alone.
I always stay there, not their newer location.
But…the Vegas story was LAME.
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a romance that could be part of our fairytale heritage
August 22nd, 2009
1:50 pm
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Maya Northen
August 26th, 2009
8:13 am
We plan family reunion vacations about every two years. There are about 10-12 of us usually, three generations. We have done several trips to Europe, including cities Prague, Vienna, Italy, the UK and Ireland (not all in one trip). We generally have a loose itinerary (other than which cities we’ll be in what day) and some days do things as a big group and some days as several smaller groups.
I would say this type of family/group travel is not for everyone. If you are more into laying back and relaxing, an all-inclusive in the Caribbean could be perfect. Beaches Resorts in Turks and Caicos and Jamaica are family oriented and quite popular with groups and reunions. A cruise could be another option – it is good for groups and kids as you can visit multiple destinations without having to unpack, hop a flight/train, etc. Plus lots of activities for all age ranges.
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LL
August 26th, 2009
10:42 am
I have family all over the east coast and in the mid-west. There were about 45 of us on 1 side of the family (all immediate family) and we went to Gatlinburg/the Smokey Mountains. There are several places there that specialize in family reunions and the hotel we all stayed at had 2-3 bedroom condo/townhouse style rooms. With so many of us, this location was ideal – almsot everyone was able to drive. The resort had a great pavillion and golf course, and also helped us set up white water rafting for the whole group and horseback riding on the trails. As a plus for the less adventurous, it was also a short drive to the outlet malls in Pigeon Forge.
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Theresa
August 26th, 2009
5:18 pm
I also plan our yearly family reunion @ 25 of us. There are resouces to be found at http://www.ReunionTravelDirectory.com to find reunion friendly resorts, cruises or better yet a tour operator who can put the whole thing together. We usually alternate between domestic destination and international destination every other year..with kids, Disney is a great choice, looking for something “in the Middle” chicago is a great city easy to get to with soemthing for everyone (don’t come in February)
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Hannah
August 27th, 2009
9:41 am
I think a return trip to your old stomping grounds in Athens would be a great idea! You wouldn’t believe how much is new, and the view as alums is always far different than you might have gotten as undergrads! Between UGA and Athens Clarke Leisure facilities, just about everything is free or nominal cost. Great new Hotel Indigo is opening just this week. Whether you pick Athens or another location, you can get plenty of free help from the local Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVB) or similarly-named tourism organization. In Athens, we help with room blocks, itinerary and tour planning, stuff to do, and know all the good deals and discounts to be found! http://www.VisitAthensGA.com
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Robert J. Nebel
August 27th, 2009
12:31 pm
Without a doubt it’s Charleston, SC. The most spectacular out of the bunch is Grill 225 on East Bay Street. Executive Chef Demetre Castanas creates the most delectable yet memorable dishes including Veal Rib Chop and Jumbo Lump Crab Cakes. The setting, service and decor are simply out of this world.
Tristan is another Charleston staple that is now offering Three,Four and Six-Course Tasting Menus for great values. The She Crab Soup is the best that I’ve ever tasted here as well as the Duck Breast and Golden Tilefish.
On previous visits, I hit Chef Brett McKee’s Oak Steakhouse. I highly recommend Oak on so many levels. Lobster Shrimp, Macaroni and Cheese and the Steak au Poivre are the true standouts here.
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SexySexyJenny
August 29th, 2009
1:49 am
Go here NOW!
GET LAID TONIGHT!
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Sue
September 2nd, 2009
4:02 pm
We prefer to wait until the week after Labor Day. The crowds are gone and prices are cheaper.
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Karen Emery
September 8th, 2009
11:21 am
I have held family reunions at the Extreme Polynesian Beach House on the west coast of Florida. The home is on a private 26 acre island that comes with all types of beach gear, kakaks, snorkeling gear and a large pontoon boat for your transportation. The home consists of six separate buildings -tahiti style and interconnected with a covered walkway. The home is a six bedroom and can accomodate up to 24 persons if you don’t mind a a sleeper sofa and murphy bed. It is large enough that everyone can find a quiet place to be alone or join in the group in the large living /dining building.
The best part I think is the location because it sits right between two towns that are boater friendly communities so you boat over to a restaurant if no one feels like cooking on the grill for the night or stroll the shops or public gulf beach. Swimming is great on site and comes with a boat dock and beach chairs.
I highly reccommend this for a family reunion. http://www.extremepolynesianbeachhouse.com
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mindless shaggy
September 9th, 2009
7:44 pm
johnny colts full volume was a really inspirational show and very entertaining
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Patricia Mcdermott
September 13th, 2009
5:46 pm
Lets see One week before it was back to school for my kids and decided on a last minute to get them away……so we did it we booked a trip to Disney neither I nor my kids have ever been and it was something I really wanted them to see and me too!!After seperating from my husband a year ago I decided it was time to move on and show my kids what fun was all about….So being our first family trip the three of us boarded a plane .( which by the way Me and my son has never done…believe it or not) and off to florida we went…We had the most amazing time I was more into I think then my 12 year old son…who was beat by the time we got back to our hotel every night….The 5 days we were there just flew by and I didn’t want to come home. we stayed at Pop Century Resort which was amazing to seeing as I had nothing to compare it to. What they had to offer and the feel of the place was so relaxing and the people I met from all parts of the world were great..we had the 5 day hopper so we took great advantage of it travelling to each park , besides the humid weather and the thunderstorms that came through it didn’t spoil our trip…Well the trip was incredible and unfortunatly all we have to show from it was our memories, because unfortunatly on our last night there I lost my memory card for my camera which held over 300 pictures of the parks and my kids with the characters we ran into in the parks, my son fortunatly got their autographs but we don’t have the pictures to go with them, I must say the staff at Pop Century was very good with us in helping us search the property looking for it ..but no luck I guess there really are heartless people in this world who found it and not return it to lost and found…never would have thought in a family resort those kind of people exsisted…So our first trip for the 3 of us was amazing , fun , and the bond between me and my children grew stronger, at least we have it in our minds not on a picture…….Disney is a place of dreams and wishes !!! My dream and wish is to turn back the time and relive it again for them!!!
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natalie
September 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
My Parents were just up in Gatlinburg this past week and the leaves are slowly starting to change, we are heading up there october 10th so I am hopig it is changing even more. we are from Florida so we dont see leaves change here we ( my husband and myself) are both from up north but my kids hae never seen it. we are so excited
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todd
October 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
There is no such thing as ghosts…
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ash
October 3rd, 2009
3:24 pm
How do you know?
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October 4th, 2009
11:19 pm
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October 7th, 2009
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Jane
October 8th, 2009
8:13 am
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You have named great mazes in Georgia and if you want to go another state check out the directory here. http://www.ruralbounty.com
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Sue
October 8th, 2009
11:24 am
I don’t understand why anyone thinks this is fun. What if you are lost in the corn maze and you have to go to the bathroom? I love Fall, but corn mazes are not on my list of things to do.
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Corny Dude
October 8th, 2009
1:32 pm
Sue!!!! You can pee on me then stick a cob in your cornhole! Your comment was worthless! BOOOOOO!
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Sue
October 8th, 2009
4:46 pm
Corny Dude! Um, EWW!!! I think your comment is the worthless one. This is a legitimate concern. People take little kids in these mazes. What happens if the kid has to go to the bathroom and they are lost in the maze? Corn mazes are dumb.
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October 8th, 2009
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Julie from California
October 8th, 2009
10:02 pm
Left for what we thought was our dream vacation, as we have never been anywhere tropical. Left for Cabo San Lucas Mexico to stay at the VILLA DEL PALMAR resort Upon arrival we notice alot of construction all of which we were told there was none. To make this nightmare into a short story… Withing the first three days we were transferred into three different rooms each having there own problem. Air conditioning – smell- bugs etc. We asked to be transferred to our original time share resort which is on the same property., but there were no openings for at least 3 days. To pack up again and unload the refrig. is not what I had in mind.. So we all know the time frame here. We arrived on Thurs. Sept. 17th, we got into our final room on Saturday the g19th On Monday the 21st the fun begins… I woke up on Monday morning with a bite on my leg not really thinking anything of it until later that afternoon when it started to swell and become very sore. I went to report it ASAP to make sure who ever needed know about it knew about it. That night it got very swollen. I was told to go to the pharmacy downtown to see the on sight Dr. She glanced at it and prescribed three different meds. I showed the meds to our concierge in charge and she said it wasn’t the right meds. I had to go to the on sight Doctor and in doing so , had to go daily to have lanced so it could drain. On the first day of the doctors visit, I asked what he thought bite me and he said it is definately a SPIDER. we complained like you wouldn’t believe and were told due to the construction things happen. They also said that the rooms get sprayed every other day, 5 days under doctors care and in unbelievable pain. Oh yeah I was told not to drink, stay out of sun and rest!!!! I am in Cabo and this is what I get to do? 5th night was unbearable The morning of the 6th day the doctor had to come to our room and we wre told I needed to got to the hospital a sap . I spent 6 days in the hospital had six different surgeries , cancelled our flights twice and in the end was told we can’t leave until we pay $10,000 All along being told not to worry about it because of all the issues we had gone through and everything will be taken care of. Are you kidding me!!!!! Yes lady’s and gentlemen this is a true story and we are still dealing from the traumatic experience. I still have a hole in my leg, see a specialist her daily, lost my job and have no money coming in… Sound like fun? Sounds like a NIGHTMARE to me.. Let me know what you think.
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October 8th, 2009
10:03 pm
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October 9th, 2009
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Amy Bowling
October 11th, 2009
1:46 am
O.K. Down to earth. WOW! I am shocked at the budget that these other family’s have to work with. My family of 11 has $5000 to budget for a vacation. We want to go to disney. I know some of you are like no way. I have rented a beach house for $800 (five bedrooms, private pool, grill), tickets $2600 (estimation for base tickets), food to cook $500, hotel, gas, and food $1000 (while driving to and from disney). I know a lot of peoples idea of a vacation is to not have cook. I am ariving one day before everyone else, and preparing most meals. All we will have to do is heat and serve. I know each family will spend money at disney, and we do plan on eating out 2 days. I think with some self control we can stay pretty close, and have a magical time.
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Bill Perillo
October 12th, 2009
3:19 pm
Sue, just use your imagination, i’m sure everything will work out…
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Bill
October 12th, 2009
3:19 pm
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Nancy
October 12th, 2009
9:40 pm
If you are worried about need to leave the maze quickly due to the needs of your children then head over to The Rock Ranch. They ask everyone to carry a flag and a have assistants in the field up in deer stands. They can direct you out quickly if needed.
Also, The Rock Ranch is owned by Truett Cathy. The people are friendly and there is LOTS to do.
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Sue
October 14th, 2009
3:37 pm
Gold Rush Days in Dahlonega. Lots of food, nice crafts, activities and a parade. It is always the 3rd weekend of October.
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bufordmom
October 14th, 2009
10:47 pm
Dawsonville: Moonshine Festival
Next Saturday October 24
Lots of old cars….pretty cool
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azim
October 17th, 2009
6:28 am
i need alot of money
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Jennifer Cecelia
October 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
I still think someone is bound to get turned on… and I am skinny… I cringe at the thought of some dude or chick (oh geez that’s worse…) becoming aroused from my body shape. Sorry but, I would feel alittle better if I was not constantly reminded of it by all these paranoid critics. Let them due their job. If your fat, be glad, and don’t worry, because most won’t be turned on and won’t start thinking dirty thoughts about you- so take it easy. But I want to start hearing that a machine is being used instead, that only projects, in the image, anything that is not actual skin (using something other than an xray, I would image), that could decipher the difference between skin and plastic and a machine for sleep apnia that is harmless and a machine for sleep apnia that has a bomb inside of it…. and a sharp knife from a butter knife….or just ban eating utensils all together, and make it obvious on websites and on site…… and…..stop saying “We’ve got a hot one!” for the love of god. You got your laugh. Now knock it off.
PS: Do you reeallly think that a pervert would actually get hired in such an occupational position as one involved in looking at naked pictures of young and adult Homosapiens? Not in this country- well, not with the American standard, at least.
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Pryncess
October 21st, 2009
10:00 am
It would be nice if there was a couples only cruise! Anyone know if there is such a thing?
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Johnson
October 21st, 2009
10:48 am
Pryncess: here is a site for you to search around and it may help you out some. http://www.adultonlycruise.net/index.php
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kay
October 21st, 2009
11:00 am
Nancy is correct on that one. The Rock Ranch corn maze is adult and kid friendly. If you want it more kid-oriented go a little earlier, if adult oriented go a little later.
Kay
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reply to todd
October 22nd, 2009
10:45 am
not true todd. I too was a non believer but then experienced ghostly encounters with my own eyes that could not be disputed. Dont be too sure, hey is that the spirit of your dead nana following behind you?
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Martha Kamens
October 23rd, 2009
1:04 pm
At the end of July, I flew from Denver, Co to Orlando, Fla, to meet my husband who drove down a week earlier. Our 2 week vacation was going to consist of All the attractions, and visiting family, going boating, just having a great vacation.
We left Orlando airport and decided to continue driving somewhere to spend the night, before we went to Miami. We found a hotel in Fort Pierce, had dinner and went for a swim in the pool.I had been in Florida for about 2 hours. After my shower, I was in the room and all of a sudden my leg collasped from under me. I couldn’t get up. Paramedics were called, I was taken to the hospital, I had broken my fibula in five places. So my vacation was spent, in the hospital, where I had a rod put in my hip, 1 week in the hospital, and 4 weeks in a rehab hospital, trying to get strong enough to fly home. I am still in therapy. The only Vacation Pictures I have to show are xrays, and pictures of my injury. The best part of this vacation is when I arrived home.
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Justmy2cents
October 24th, 2009
8:44 am
We are taking a theme cruise for Spring Break. Didn’t plan it that way, just so happened I found out after we booked. It is a baseball theme cruise, so I doubt my girls will be interested in attending any of the signings or sessions. We cruise every few years for their spring break, but as adult vacations go, we prefer our favorite resort in Jamaica. First class service, good scuba, and NO children allowed.
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abc
October 28th, 2009
11:43 am
This year I’ve been to Aruba, Curacao, St. Maartens, St. Thomas, Barbados, Antigua, St. Lucia, St. Maartens, and St. Croix. In years past I’ve visited the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica, Puerto Rico and the Mexican Riviera. I’d recommend against Aruba, it’s just not that nice, and there’s not much to see. Of the European-controlled islands, it shows its poverty quite a bit more than most. I’d recommend against Cozumel and Cancun, too, they’re just not that fun.
If you really want to visit an island off the Venezuelan coast, try Curacao, it’s lovely! St. Maartens and St. Croix are also among my favorites; Aruba, Barbados, Antigua are among my least favorites — in fact, I’d recommend skipping any of the independent islands. One exception would be St. Lucia for its natural beauty, but stay in an all-inclusive resort there. There are a couple of lovely resorts at the foot of the Pitons. Hanging out in town is to subject yourself to panhandling like you may never have experienced, it’s pretty sad — that’s something that’s typical of the independent islands due to extreme poverty.
If you’re not very familiar with Caribbean destinations, try a cruise. That would give you a chance to get a glimpse of what they’re like. The best itineraries leave from San Juan, which isn’t that much more expensive or lengthy a flight than one to Miami.
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Kevrock/Smarty Jones
October 28th, 2009
1:06 pm
ABC hit it right on the Head! Very good point.
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Keith
October 28th, 2009
2:00 pm
Great info! Thanks!
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Caribbean Chris
October 28th, 2009
2:14 pm
In the last eighteen months I have been to Trinidad and Tobago (three times), Jamaica, and St. Lucia. Delta did have direct service to all three from Atlanta, but I think that has stopped, so take American to Miami for the shortest and cheapest flights. While I was in the Caribbean I stayed in guesthouses all five times and loved it. Staying among the locals was a gratifying experience, because I felt like I REALLY visited a foreign country, as opposed to an Americanized resort. Prices are typically $50-100 per night with breakfast and other perks. Getting around is a dirt cheap adventure as well, so do what the locals do and catch a taxi! Not once did I feel unsafe in the daytime in any of those countries, but I used common sense at night, just as I would would in any American city. Yes, there is poverty and crime there just like here but I found the locals to be respectful and polite without exception. Also, I ate the local foods and drank the local water with no problems. St. Lucia is a place of great natural beauty that is largely rural except around the Castries/Gros Islet in the north. Pigeon Island, the Pitons, and Soufriere are a must. In Jamaica I enjoyed the Seven-Mile Beach in Negril, with its numerous Jerk Shacks with delicious BBQ pork and chicken. Don’t forget to try the saltfish and ackee! Tobago is a quiet island with beautiful beaches, perfect for a romantic getaway. Trinidad, however, is busy and lively between Port of Spain, Arima, and Sangre Grande. I enjoyed Toco Beach in the east and the Pitch Lake down in the south. Unlike many of the other islands in the Caribbean, Trinidad has a thriving and diverse economy far beyond tourism and bananas. If in doubt just pick and island and go; you won’t regret it.
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KEO
October 28th, 2009
6:11 pm
Has anyone ever been to the Canouan Islands? If so please report your findings, thanks!
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mrd
October 29th, 2009
10:41 am
We have been to Aruba 3 times and really enjoy it. It is a desert island so it is not lush and green other than palm trees near the beach but this means is rarely rains and it is below the huricane belt so the weather is perfect year round and you dont have to worry about spending your vacation in doors. We like to lay on the beach and do water sports during the day and have a great dinner and gamble for a few hours at night and Aruba is perfect for this. There are a lot of great European resturants we really like and a few smaller but nice casinos. There seems to be less poverty on the island than others we have been to and we never feel unsafe. It is also very easy to get around with cabs. If you are looking for adventure or sight seeing it may not be the best spot but if you are looking for great beaches, great weather for relaxation you will enjoy Aruba
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Jason
October 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
St John in the USVI. Caneel Bay Resort, Westin St John Resort are both great in different ways. Secluded, relaxing, the whole island feel without being too touristy.
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ziza
October 29th, 2009
1:41 pm
ditto what caribbean chris said. although different folks for different folks. i’ve been to st maarten, trinidad and tobago, barbados, anguilla and jamaica. i always move with the local folks via taxi, eating places, clubs, etc. i have stayed in an all inclusive and while i enjoyed it more than i thought i would (basically for unlimited drinks lol), it did not compare with my b&b stays by far. i am longing to go to dominica, belize, and st lucia. i’ve always found good deals to everywhere i’ve gone. love the caribbean it is my locale of choice for vacation.
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bill
October 29th, 2009
3:59 pm
ABC was correct except I felt Antiqua was great. Chris I’m glad you lived past Jamaica. Aruba is not that great, but if you are going the natural bridge caved in a few years ago, but there is still a smaller one there. Also, at the light house there is an Italian rotissorie. That is excellent for a sunset meal & drinks. I agree cruising is the way. Just wish this economy would turn so I could go some more.
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jake
October 29th, 2009
7:39 pm
William Ganong Cemetery
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Sue
October 30th, 2009
4:49 pm
St. Lucia is very beautiful. The Pitons are breathtaking. There is a lot of poverty there but the locals we met were very friendly. We don’t have children, so we prefer to stay at all inclusives that are for adult couples only. I have a friend that has traveled to Aruba every year for the past 11 years. She loves it and recommends it but we are planning on Jamaica next. So many places to see, not enough time and money!
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jd
October 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
St. Barth’s is the only island in the Caribbean we visit. Tried USVI, BVI, St. Lucia, Aruba, Barbados, Curacao, and Jamaica. St. Barth’s is just more sophisticated. When we vacation, we want three things: A great place to stay, an unspoiled beach, and excellent food. The only downside is getting there. You have to go through St. Martin’s Julianna Airport, then get on a high-speed ferry or a beaver-prop. The transfer between islands is time-consuming and nauseating. The upside is the peace and good time you have when you get there. We recommend Salines Gardens for hotel. Eden Rock is also among the best. Any restaurant is great.
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wae
October 30th, 2009
11:27 pm
Jamaica, without a doubt. Great food, friendly people. Lush Island with great waterfalls and beaches.
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Express43
October 31st, 2009
6:00 pm
I have been to St. Kitts, Trinidad, and the Bahamas in the past two years. St. Kitts is the most laid back island. We stayed at the Marriott Resort and Casino, which has its own beach and cabanas. There are other much smaller hotels in the area, but none are directly on the beach. Room rates have declined considerably since we were there in 2007. The Marriott has 6-7 restaurants on site, access to a golf course, a casino, and the only ATM on the island that dispenses US currency. I was there for three weeks on a work project.
My trip to Trinidad was also work related, and yes Port of Spain is more typical of a major city. There are beaches in Trinidad, but you will have to travel from the metro centers. The last trip was to Nassau, Bahamas, also work related. We stayed in British Colonial Hilton Inn. Very nice renovated hotel in downtown Nassau, convenient to shopping and restuarants. Sandal, Wyndham, and Sheraton are on Cable Beach with much better beaches and views of the ocean. Many people choose to go to Atlantis, but you will pay a premium for a basic room, but there is lots to do at the hotel and complex.
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marty
November 9th, 2009
2:30 am
Yeah, would it be nice if you’re in a romantic weekends all the time and earn something from it, my dream job.
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Clay
November 11th, 2009
1:35 pm
I’m driving; but, we always drive. It’s a good thing that we don’t go too far. I don’t know why any family would consider flying if you can drive it within 8 hours or so. If you live in Gwinnett County and have a 10AM flight, you have to leave home at 7AM. Then, you have delays and then you get off the ground. Say you land at 11:30 and then you have to go to Baggage Claim. Then, you have to go get your rental car. Then, you have the hour or so drive from the airport to your destination. That’s a lot of work to save a couple of hours in the car. Unless I’m going to the West coast, I would almost always choose driving over flying. Way too many hassles invloved when you fly.
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Squanto
November 11th, 2009
1:41 pm
If it’s not within an 8-10 hour drive time, I’m not going. I will cook for myself and watch football in my own house on my own TV whilst sitting in my own favorite chair with my beverage of choice in hand.
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Steve
November 11th, 2009
1:43 pm
I use the same rule-of-thumb (8 hour drive). In addition to the other frustrations you mention; I also avoid the cramped seating (I’m 6′2″) and possibly catching someone else cold/flu. Additionally, my trunk has yet to have delivered my luggage to Dallas when my car goes to Jacksonville.
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Paul
November 11th, 2009
2:07 pm
8-10 hour drive here, too. But this year we are staying home. I would love to fly, but after paying $40 round trip for one checked bag of luggage so that my wife could spend a few weeks taking care of my mother after surgery, not any time soon. I thought cell phone companies nickeled and dimed you to death. Airlines are outrageous. It will get to the point that it was once was upon a time. Only the well to do can fly. The rest of us little people will have to to resort to driving or not going anywhere.
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Beebop
November 11th, 2009
2:14 pm
The airlines (at least the ones I fly) have figured out how to win! 1) They charge more for less and less. 2) They have crowded the seats together so that you are comfortable if you
weight maxmum 120 lbs, are 5 feet tall, and have no luggage (some charge now for having luggage(!); 3) You pay more now for a ticket with less options. The airlines gave themselves the rule that you can’t get your money back if you don’t fly the ticket you booked. Of course, you can’t book unless you pay – so you lose from beginning to end. I know someone who found out she was pregnant and couldn’t take the shots to fly to Asia because of her pregnancy, but Delta refused to reimburse her ticket ($x,xxx)! This needs to be changed! If you didn’t get the product (take the flight) you should get your money back! This is the way business works – except for the airlines. They made the rule and we pay the consequences. Service has gotten worse. seats are uncomfortable and too close together. I don’t want to drive everywhere; I like flying and getting to a new location. I also don’t realistically think with the way we are packed together in coach that in an emergency people aren’t going to trample each other. The aisles are too narrow to be safe in an emergency also. The public needs to address these issues with the airline industry. We all serve each other after all and are dependent on each other.
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Bill
November 11th, 2009
2:21 pm
The cost of gas to drive 500 miles, for my car, is about $90 round trip, and the time is about 9 to 10 hours. Door to door, by plane takes between 5 and 7 hours. The ticket is perhaps $250. Let’s see, first there is the requirement to be at the gate an hour before the plane leaves. To get to the gate takes about 2 hours, by way of Marta train. The actual in flight time is 90 minutes. The time on the ground before the plane leaves, is never certain, and then there is the trip from the airport at the destination, by way of the auto rental office, adding another hour or two. So, flying is not much of a savings. Then there are the security philosophers and their imperious manners. Why suffer such abuse and even fear? And let’s not forget the noise and press of strangers. No, the cost of the ticket is just icing on the cake, just one more reason not to fly.
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Jennifer
November 11th, 2009
2:41 pm
We are sucking it up and driving. 21 hours each way with four kids and a dog! The cost of a hotel, meals, leaving the dog behind, and gas does not compare to airfare for the six of us. I fly two or three times a year for pleasure, but hardly ever with the kids.
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Bkk
November 11th, 2009
3:02 pm
For the past 3 years we’ve been driving. Granted, ours is just 7 hours driving. But just before we stopped taking flight to our destination, a 90 minute flight took about 4 hours to reach the destination. We decided we are not flying anymore. With 2 kids and us, now it is cheaper and kids also get to watch TV for free while if we fly (if available on the airlines) needs to be paid by an arm and leg I suppose for that service.
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SA
November 18th, 2009
8:39 am
Floating on a city block with six thousand other people does not appeal to me at all and I certainly would not consider it a vacation. Even if the ship is ginormous, you are still a captive audience with a limited number of options. With 6,300 people on board, just how long is that line to climb the rock wall anyway?
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Boots
November 18th, 2009
8:42 am
My guess is that some seniors with never find their way back to their cabins and will be found sleeping on park benches in Central Park.
Just because you CAN build a ship this large doesn’t mean you SHOULD build this monstrosity. It’s just too big and doesn’t even look graceful in the water.
This ship is borne of the massive ego of Richard Fain and his competition with Mickey Arison. They like to measure things.
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R
November 18th, 2009
8:52 am
I am old school- a ship should LOOK like a ship (Titanic/Queen Mary/Normandie style). As Cunard used to say “getting there is half the fun.” Now it should be “getting there is half the fun, the other half is waiting in line for buffet.” Heck, bring back the “grande dames.”
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jg
November 18th, 2009
8:53 am
The Oasis of the Seas was the ship of dreams, it was it really was! Nope.. WAAAAAAAYYY too big!
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tixholdersince66
November 18th, 2009
8:54 am
Question? Why would I pay almost twice the 2010 prices to be on the inaugural cruise, that will certainly have many kinks and training of staff to work out. I will bet most of the crew will still be finding their way on board. For my money (we have been on 13 past cruises) I tend to book on lines with better passenger to crew ratio (more crew, less passengers).
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Mary B
November 18th, 2009
8:55 am
I am booked to cruise on Oasis in January and I can’t wait! I’m very excited to experience this massive ship and engineering marvel. I think she is beautiful. There will be so much to do….on this cruise, the ship will be the destination. I plan to zipline, watch a Broadway show, attend the cupcake decorating class and then relax on my quiet balcony. This ship has it all and yes, I want it all.
The ports it can go to are the same ole, same ole, but that is not why I want to be on Oasis. I understand it’s not for everyone, and even I would not cruise on Oasis over and over again. Cruising can be so many different things to so many different people and this ship just added another option for cruisers. To each their own.
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JWSmurf
November 18th, 2009
11:30 am
Those who seem so negative about this ship probably A)have never cruised before or B)can’t afford to, least of all on the Oasis.
I went on a cruise with RC this summer aboard Freedom. The ship was so huge, you didn’t feel crowded despite being among thousands of others. When I was at the bow of the ship early in the morning before most people were up, with the coast slipping by, nothing but the sound of the wind going by, I wasn’t thinking about Titanic or other old ships. I can’t wait to cruise on Oasis.
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cruis-o-matic
November 19th, 2009
9:53 am
Different strokes for different folks. I’ve been on about 17 cruises & the worst cruise was great!! JW you are right I am jealous that I can not afford to go on a cruise right now. The prices are soooo great right now. I wish I had a spare grand or so & get to go on any cruise.
I guess I will just have to wait until the economy picks up & pay the higher cruise prices at that time!!!!!!
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sue
December 2nd, 2009
12:33 pm
We like going to Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge this time of year. There are Christmas lights everywhere and the Dixie Stampede Christmas show is wonderful. One year we went to Dollywood and rode the train around the park after dark drinking hot chocolate and looking at the lights.
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ANSWER MAN
December 2nd, 2009
7:30 pm
Boeing 747-400 combi
The 747–400 Combi provides airlines with long-range passenger and cargo capability.
The Combi has a large side-cargo door behind the left wing and equipment that removes passenger seats and installs cargo tracks, allowing the option of carrying cargo in containers on the main deck behind passengers
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halle
December 9th, 2009
5:35 pm
Bucky.com has wonderful travel and comfort gifts for the holidays.
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Brian
December 12th, 2009
4:16 pm
The perfect gift for someone who travels is a piece of Victorinox Luggage. I own one myself. My brother travels and I went to the luggage store @ Northpoint where they are having the 125th Anniversary sale @ 20% off. Victorinox Luggage is never on sale. It’s a great deal for a great bag. I have been happy with mine for two years now. These are the people who make the Swiss Army Knife.
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chazs
December 14th, 2009
8:57 am
The luggage scale is the best idea.
Pleasure travelers always pack too much. Or buy too much on for the trip home. So if you have the scale you can avoid those extra charges. One trip will more than pay for the scale.
Also always pack a folding bag to put all those extra goodies your bought while on holiday. Carry it on and you have avoided the extra charges. Again one trip pays for the bag!
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GFH
December 16th, 2009
9:52 am
I always go to Mori Luggage & Gifts for travel-related gifts. They always have a great selection and they also have lots of neat gifts and games. Very friendly salespeople and good number of stores in Atlanta.
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charlred19
December 19th, 2009
12:16 am
Stop putting it off! Make sure you’re covered with Auto Insurance before your really need it. Get it from http://bit.ly/5e4fQZ
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A.S.Mathew
December 31st, 2009
11:11 pm
Even with the former security check, I was not very happy to fly. Security checks have no
uniformity, it is different in every airport. Now, with the added security check, it is going to be very
frustrating and I will avoid any plane trip possible. Extra fees from the airlines, poor service
in the cabin and exta security checks from the security etc make the trip very unpleasant.
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Mike D
January 2nd, 2010
12:58 am
I’m just scared of little brown men with beards on my plane. Two years ago on a Delta flight my wife and I eye watched a crazy sandman reading the Koran and while waiting to board. Mt wife freaked out, but I noticed about 5 Army MPs getting ready to board our flight – which mometarily calmed me. It turned out that crazy muslim guy was in seat 1A and the MPs were 15 rows behind us. I spent the entire flight ready to run up and take the guy out if so much as got out of his seat.
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Paul
January 2nd, 2010
4:38 am
The problem with the Federal Government’s approach to the terrorism problem is that FIRST, they have not defined what we are fighting; and SECOND, everything that they do is reactionary.
Are they trying to insure that no so called terrorist ever causes harm in the United States? If so, they are more naive than I thought.
All that reactionary responses do is take more and more liberties away from us. Focusing efforts on commercial flights only means that, if you ever cut off every possible way for terrorists to down a commercial flight, [terrorists] will find something else. Did it ever occur to them, for example, that someone could hijack a private jet and easily crash it into a commercial flight??? The big plus for them would be that they would not have to stand in a 2 hour line at the airport.
The government needs to get competent people in charge. They certainly do not have them now.
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Howard
January 2nd, 2010
8:07 am
Sir…my wife and I recently returned from a European vacation tlast month…and I have to tell you I’d rather have a root canal than fly overseas…esp. out of Atlanta. It’s almost like a conspiracy of the TSA and the government to discourage you from flying. I can imagine now how horrific it is to go through TSA lines now. Our government, since 2001, has been gutless protecting flyers from radical Islamic terrorists (see Mr. Obama and Ms. Napaolitano…it’s not too hard to say that phrase!)…why not profiling? Look at the poster child for liberals…FDR…did during WW II! He finally awoke to the realization that the Japanese were a Gothic-type enemy who would go to any lengths to get what they wanted. Why didn’t the Bush Administration and now this bunch of Chicago thugs running our country now not realize the same thing. Heck, Obama is from a city where the Mafia rules work best with dealing with being attacked…you hit me with a stick, I’ll get a knife…you use a pistol, I’ll use a shotgun!! Cruel you say? Politically incorrect? You bet!! Because these radical terrorists are hell-bent on their crusade…it’s based on religious beliefs. And just like David Koresh or Jim Jones, you can’t play nice guy with these people!! They’re coming again…I’m just surprised one of those al Queda groups hasn’t hit a shopping mall, a school, a college or NFL football game, a train, etc. The targets in this country are legion and with our current attitude that we can’t make life uncomfortable by profiling certain groups…groups that have done all the attacks by the way…we are absolutely and definitely sitting ducks. Will we ever wake up? After experiencing a trip in and out of Hartsfield to Europe and back…I doubt it. TSA is a joke really..until they start profiling like the Israelis, we’re in deep trouble. Oh two things…how many El Al jets have been hi-jacked or blown up in recent memory? And imagine the uproar if all these terrorist attacks had been done by white, Anglo-Saxon protestants???
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Terrytroll
January 2nd, 2010
9:17 am
My wife and I have decided not to fly anymore. Just too intrusive, too much hassle and we like driving anyway. We were going to Hawaii this spring to see a new family member but they will be here next year.
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Former Enjoyer of FREEDOM in America
January 2nd, 2010
9:29 am
Our freedom is being taken away from us.
Every single time I have to be herded like cattle, yelled at unintelligible ghetto slang, take off half my clothes and remove my shoes so that the inept Terrell and Laquisha with their TSA badges can treat me and my family like criminals and/or 3rd-class citizens, it is clear to me that the terrorists have WON and succeeded in destroying what America once was.
Ronald Reagan would never have spent like a liberal in creating a government Gestapo of incompetence like the TSA.
Unfortunately, George W. Bush was NO Ronald Reagan.
The TSA can go burn in Hell along with Obama bin Laden. I am now DONE with flying.
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Laurie
January 2nd, 2010
9:43 am
I flew last over the Thanksgiving Holidays. It cost an extra 80.00 over ticket prices for my daughter ans I to take our luggage. On our way back home, security stole about 70.00 worth of skin care products and toiletries… I say stole becuase they were in small containers and had passed security checks when we initially flew. The fact that for all the hastle they gave us, they couldn’t catch someone carrying an explosive, speaks VOLUMES. I’m done flying. I refuse to contribure money to a system that is so broken. A major airline and airport industry shake-up is the only thing that will make me reconsider at this point.
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Disgusted
January 2nd, 2010
9:53 am
Former Enjoyer of FREEDOM in America Glad you are done with flying because I’d hate to sit next to you on a plane.
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Unconstitutional
January 2nd, 2010
10:31 am
Liberal known as DISGUSTED @ 9:53 am -
Please kill your Obama-worshipping self.
You are worthless.
(Besides, the airlines won’t accept your food-stamp debit card my husband & I helped buy for you with our tax dollars as payment for your airline ticket, so I doubt you would be sitting on a plane in the first place.)
You can take your Jihad and stick it where the sun declines to shine.
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Disgusted
January 2nd, 2010
1:58 pm
Unconstitutional, you sound scared. Do not worry, I will pray for you …
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HostelDog.com
January 6th, 2010
7:56 am
I think Savannah takes the cake as the most “European” city in the south. I would definitely argue that Arkansas doesn’t conjure up images of European sophistication and history, which is the main vision most folks have of Europe when they decide to make the trip.
So, go to Savannah. It’s little Europe.
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Laura
January 8th, 2010
8:47 am
I don’t think they should have to pay extra. Overweight people are should hve the same rights just like a thin or average HUMAN BEING. How would you like it if the airline told a thin or average person that you will have to pay for two seats cause no will want to sit next to you cause you are butt ugly and you stink??? $ow would you people like that? If you feel uncomfortable sitting next to a overweight person then buy a first class ticket. Why don’t you put yourself in an overweight person’s place.
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TFitz
January 8th, 2010
2:38 pm
Any designation of the most European city in the South that doesn’t include the words “new” and “orleans” comes up short in my book. Savannah’s great though.
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Intown Lib
January 8th, 2010
3:22 pm
Asheville is great if you must stay in the South and within weekend driving distance for skiing and mountain activities. In some ways it has a California college town type feel.
Savannah is Georgia’s most European-like city. Charleston and New Orleans are longer drives but bigger and probably complete the list of southern European-like cities.
Helen is barely worth a day trip.
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Len Robertson
January 8th, 2010
3:32 pm
On your way to Savannah A great historic city that is very walkable, you might want a side trip to a little piece of Americana Ol South style. Hawkinsville is only 20 minutes off I-16 and the houses and town are the real thing. The old Opera House has been restored and you will be amazed at the shops, especially Kimberlys. Its well worth the drive and a great break on the four hour or so drive.
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Noel Barrett
January 8th, 2010
10:09 pm
As an Atlanta native, born and raised in Buckhead and Brookhaven, and having lived in Europe and Asia (to include the Middle East) for almost 15 years, I can’t say as I find any Georgia city “European”. It’s the difference between apples and oranges. Or any city in the U.S. south for that matter except pershaps the small percentage of New Orleans called the “Old Quarter” or “French Quarter”. I loved Europe. I lived in Cambridge, England/ Istanbul, Turkey/ Cologne, Germany, and Athens, Greece, amongst others but to quote Lewis Grizzard, I told myself that “If I ever get back to Georgia, I’m going to nail my feet to the ground”. What a wonderful place to live.
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Toren Anderson
January 8th, 2010
11:25 pm
I spent 1/4 of 2009 in Savannah & Tybee. The historical areas of Savannah are so lovely and an authentic travel experience. Stay on Tybee for a change of pace and then daytripping into Savannah makes for the perfect getaway. Savannah is a gift to this state. Dine at Elizabeth on 37th, shop on Whitaker and on Broughton. Check out See Jane, Back in the Day Bakery (40th & Bull) and savor this quick trip rich with culture in less than a tank of gas. For lodging
http://www.oceanfrontcottage.com
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Toren Anderson
January 8th, 2010
11:30 pm
Also, a day trip from Tybee is Beaufort SC one of the most amazing towns on earth. A photographers dream. And another place that reminds me of Santorini, http://www.alysbeach.com soothing, fresh concept and there is nothing like it in the South. It’s a new town in the panhandle and it’s incredible.
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Stacation for me
January 11th, 2010
10:19 am
What terms come to mind when you think about vacation? Carefree relaxation, Stressfree trip with family, hasslefree experience to unwind, etc.. Factor in travel via air these days and those terms change quickly. Why? Arrive 2 hours before your flight doesn’t work anymore- expect half a day at the airport. Pickup your ticket and straight to the gate is a thing of the past.- Standing in lines that are as long as the hallways of the Las Vegas MGM hotel. Being made to feel like a valued customer who is departing with their hard earned dollars.- How about security checks that leave you feeling like a prisoner coming off yard call at the big house. Get the idea? It’s simply not worth it. Instead, I’m spending my vacation money on a large screen T.V. and a more comfortable chair….
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Robert
January 11th, 2010
2:41 pm
St. Augustine is a very walkable city and has more of a European feel than you might imagine especially on the south side of the square. Look for Denoel French bakery.
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Patrick
January 11th, 2010
4:44 pm
Don’t forget the coast around Brunswick, where you’ve got access to four barrier islands within minutes of each other: St. Simons Island, Sea Island, Little St. Simons Island and Jekyll Island. They’re all different and offer plenty of activities and choices of accommodations. And, they’re within a half day’s drive of Atlanta!
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bryan sparks
January 12th, 2010
3:01 am
best western hotel in russelville arkansas—rooms are flea infested–asked for refund but was refused–these people (even the national headquater customer service) think that infestations are a feature–not a problem for the guest!
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first!
January 13th, 2010
6:16 pm
woooohooo!
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Debra
January 13th, 2010
7:25 pm
I have stayed at Southern Cross on more than one occasion. Lots of fun for the family. Fabulous food, lots to do and of course horse back riding. If you go in the spring, you can see the foals being born in the barn. I have gone by myself and with my daughter. All my stays have been wonderful. The family that run this place make you feel like you are home. I highly recommend this place
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Dorothy
January 13th, 2010
7:56 pm
I would if we didn’t have family in rural Missouri. We get all the country we can imagine and only have to pay for gas and food. My husband has family with cattle and dairy farms. It’s not a B&B but we always feel at home.
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Teel Montague
January 14th, 2010
12:24 pm
Hey, (Hay!) How about just a day away from the city? I have a beautiful little farm just 10 miles south of the perimeter in Fairburn. Five Acre Farm. I open it up on Sundays for “Something Sundays”, where you will enjoy the best blues out of Atlanta…Nathan Nelson of Northside Tavern Fame, joined by another awesome blues musician, Jonathan Edwards…My idea is to let my farm be like the ultimate “Grandma’s House” on a Sunday afternoon. I have Icelandic horses! And the best instructor I know who was formally trained in England, Anne Turk, has just joined my “Something Sunday” team. Last Sunday, despite the ice and snow, I had fifty people here of all ages, listening to blues, learning about horses, and enjoying some food. I even had swing dancers dancing, and children playing with a wooden train set by the fire. I have a lovely farm house, and when the weather warms up, I have a bonfire pit and a large BBQ pavilion. The Newnan Times Herald did an article about it on Monday 1/4…on the front page!! “Owner Wants To Make Farm Like Grandma’s” I do all of this for donations. It is not a business. The farm is on the market, due to my settlement agreement from a divorce last January…If I couldn’t refinance, it had to go on the market. But after a month, I realized that I would go ahead and just do what I had always dreamed of doing with it. My heart is to reach out and have awesome people come together and enjoy each others company in an awesome place. I hope that anyone who has an interest in enjoying the country on a Sunday afternoon, will come to Five Acre Farm for “Something Sundays” on Hall Road, across from the Publix at South Fulton Parkway and Hwy 92 (technically Fairburn, 30213)
Follow the signs… : )
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Michelle Nowak
January 14th, 2010
8:11 pm
Hi there! Thanks for the nice article. I write a blog about farm stays at http://farmstays.blogspot.com/, with lots of links to good agritourism resources. Especially check out the new website sleepinthehay.com, a directory of farm stays in the USA.
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Roswell Ramrod
January 20th, 2010
8:49 am
I agree with Heywood, the husbands go to work, kids to school and the cougars to play with me. HA HA! I love mine in the tennis skirts
Keep working those long hours fellas, we’ll take care of your yum yum wives!
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Mark
January 20th, 2010
9:03 am
So this is where we are at as a society/civilization.
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Texasboy
January 20th, 2010
9:34 am
Can someone please explain all this Cougar crap to me. I get the part about the older women wanting the younger guy and all that, but the Cougar TV shows and the Cougar cruises, Cougar this, Cougar that. I think it’s all pretty stupid and a rest of time.
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Reality
January 20th, 2010
9:39 am
Been around forever. They put a name to it and suddenly it is new?
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Slinky
January 20th, 2010
10:00 am
Where were all the cougars when I was in my 20’s?
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GA Tech Grad
January 20th, 2010
10:07 am
“Here’s to you Mrs. Robinson”!!
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Kristin
January 20th, 2010
10:33 am
Sounds painful – not to mention I don’t know if they care for cruising. I always assumed they were more of a solitary creature.
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cjamesatl
January 20th, 2010
10:51 am
If the theme cruise was called “Old rich men and 20-something girls” no one would bat an eye. The onboard shops would make a fortune in Viagra and jewelry sales.
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Piso Mojado
January 20th, 2010
11:15 am
Wow, so there’s someone else out there who’s never gotten into reality shows? Except for a few episodes of Cops way back when, I’m proud to say that I’ve never watched a reality show. Most of what’s on TV is a nothing but a bunch of crap these days.
That companies think they need to promote this kind of behavior to increase business is pathetic. They should fire their business development manager. As for a cruise, the one’s I’ve been on had at least 2500 passengers on the ship. I don’t think 300 single older women and younger men from a “cougar group” would stand out from the rest of the passengers, many many of whom are single older women and younger men. Good for Carnival.
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happy endings
January 20th, 2010
11:27 am
Since the cruises are on international waters, couldn’t the cruise line just offer “massage” services?
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Jay
January 20th, 2010
11:28 am
What dim wit come up with the cutesy term of “cougar?” It really sounds stupid and childish.
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Jay
January 20th, 2010
11:29 am
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Ron
January 20th, 2010
12:15 pm
I agree Slinky!
If I was in my 20’s, I’d be allllll over this!
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Johnny Fontane
January 20th, 2010
12:48 pm
A woman is called a cougar and a man is called a pervert. Why the double standard?
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itpdude
January 20th, 2010
10:30 pm
All this talk of cougars and the like center around hot chicks like Courtney Cox and the like. Fact is, most women past 35 have gone to seed.
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when and where
January 20th, 2010
11:07 pm
sign me up…FTHaters
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Bill
January 21st, 2010
12:09 am
what’s sexy about dry’d out V, sags, stretch marks, faded tramp stamps, & wrinkles?
glory days long gone.
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TB
January 21st, 2010
1:16 am
Cougars used to be called “Sugar Mama’s”, nothing new just a new name for it.
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clint ellison
January 21st, 2010
4:28 am
I like the notion of cougars coming after me. Only problem is that I’m 65 now, and the thought of being cornered by an aroused 89 year old cougar holds no charms for me. Guess I’ll have to be content with younger women. Shucks.
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Thomas and Beverly Carnes
January 22nd, 2010
12:21 am
We have operated a farm-stay on our 335 acre farm and ranch in Fredericksburg, Texas for a year now. We offer two two-bedroom log cabins overlooking our farm and neighboring farms. We raise heritage livestock and a market garden. http://www.agaritacreek.com.
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Raul
January 25th, 2010
3:57 am
TC….. your a retard. They buy first class where the seats are bigger, not to mention they would not want to sit uncomfortabley for a long flight. and when they fly as a team they charter a plane. It does not matter. FAT people should have to pay for to seats. its not my fault they eat to much and have no self control and are lazy….. why should i get cheated out of my seat cause i am healthy. During the holidays i had to sit inbetween 2 fat people on a southwest flight there fat ass arms where in my seat i had to lean foward the whole flight. how about this. if 2 fat people fly together they can just buy the middle seat if the plane has 3 seats in a row. i know some are different. how is that for having a heart. ahhhh lose the wieght and it would not be a problem fatso.
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Raul
January 25th, 2010
4:25 am
FAT PEOPLE EAT THIS: you guys are crying cause the airlines do not accomidate for you being FAT, why should they. the majority of people that fly fit in there seats. why should normal people that take care of themselves get punished for the ones that are fat lazy slobs that have no self respect. If you dont want to be emmbaressd then buy a first class seat and stop crying. think about it this way you will be getting better meals atleast. I dont see why you guys are crying about this, stop trying to pull the FAT card. oh what cause im fat i have to pay more than every one else……HELL FREAKIN YES YOU DO. let me sit on your arem the entire flight and see how you like it. not to long ago i was taking a flight back from AZ. and got stuck in the middle of 2 huge people. and i had to lean foward the whole time. Now that was not fair. i paid for a seat to sit and lean back in. Not just the lower part of the seat. Why did the fat ass people get there seat the isle the window and most of my seat. hell no. you fat people need to pay for the seat in the middle. have you no self respect when you fly. why would you want to be talked about or looked at when your arm is overlapping the poor person next to you. thats freakin nasty. you guys are crying about how you always get looked at funnyand talked about… well wake up and do somthing about. either one lose the wieght, or two do the right thing and buy the seat next to you so you dont get called out at the airport. have a lil self respect. You people….yes i said you people FAT PEOPLE need to buy another ticket or fl first class. stop looking for a hand out. and stop eating so much. its not my fault you cant stop feeding your face. bet your eating right now, saying OMG i cant (bite) believe this asswhole (bite) some one needs slap him (bite slrrrrp) i am not fat, i cant help it, it is a medical condition.(bite/swallot) ….. yea freakin right. they should put a row of seats by the check in counter and if you fit then your good to go. and if you hang over then pay for that seat to. kinda like the carry on bag thing, hey again its not our fault your fat so why should i be uncomfortable. i paid for a full seat not a fat arm in my seat with a lil love roll. if your reading this and agree please just say amen on a comment and show the fat people that its not our fault they are fat.and if your the fat person getting mad at this then maybe i highered your heart rate enough for you to burn a couple calories and you welcome, too bad i got you so mad that you had to turn to a twinkie….. FAT PEOPLE SUCK….
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Stacation for me
January 25th, 2010
2:37 pm
Effie’s in Athens. Makes you feel you’ve been around the world.
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Raul
February 4th, 2010
1:22 am
Laura your stupid………….AND MAYBE FAT…..HAHAHAHAHA FAT PEOPLE SUCK…….
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AtlTiger
February 10th, 2010
8:13 am
Motel 6 on Delk road in a sexy party waiting to happen
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GA Girl
February 10th, 2010
9:02 am
My husband and I decided to stay in town and spend Valentine’s evening in a local upscale hotel instead of traveling.
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GA Girl
February 10th, 2010
9:03 am
The Ritz!
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diamond e
February 10th, 2010
10:16 am
shoot,i’m thinkin a box of wine and a bucket of chicken out in the pop up camper xoxoxo
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mikef61
February 10th, 2010
11:07 am
I don’t have a Valentine except my granddaughter, so I’m going to AL to fish in a bass tournament. Guess my bass boat is my Valentine, huh?
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Ginger
February 10th, 2010
12:29 pm
It would be great to go to a nice hotel if they didn’t hike up the prices just for the holiday.
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rhicks
February 10th, 2010
2:00 pm
HAYWOOD YOU RULE!!! MADE ME LAUGH!
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Mike Rotch
February 10th, 2010
2:23 pm
LOL Haywood! Hilarious!
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bonbon
February 10th, 2010
2:53 pm
you people are too funny! nasty but funny! my husband is taking me to hooters for my dinner the night before valentine’s because on valentine’s too many people will be out. I want to eat, he wants to look, what better valentine’s gift could you give? Valentine’s is for both people so why not make them both happy.
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LOL
February 10th, 2010
3:58 pm
AtlTiger, is that where you’ll be at. lol. If so, I’ll be sure to stay clear of Motel 6. lol.
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Mishee
February 12th, 2010
4:22 pm
I found a good price for the Glenn Hotel on Quikbook.com. Has anyone ever booked anything through that site? I would love some feedback. It seems so much cheaper than other sites.
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Great ATL Guy
February 13th, 2010
9:11 am
I had a hot hookup once at the old Clermont Hotel on Ponce, in the disco 70’s. It was during the time when phone numbers were published in Creative Loafing in the “Personals” Section, do ya’ll remember that? The Clermont had a couple of rooms with vibrating beds and you could rent the rooms by the hour (those days are gone, thank Goodness) but fun while they lasted! Then we would go to Mothers, The Prince George, Mrs. P’s or The Gallus lounge for afterglow party…….
Where, o where, is the Gallus??
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Ed Selby
February 13th, 2010
10:13 am
I was in China recently, and stayed at or visited a half-dozen 4 & 5 star hotels. Every one of them had the same kind of shower/bedroom set up – and it wasn’t pitched as sexy. I was told that it was a way to allow for more light into the bathroom. Pretty good idea if you ask me (and sexy too!)
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PS
February 13th, 2010
11:10 pm
I agree with BonBon… You people are Nasty! Happy VD!!
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c. Leben Hayward
February 14th, 2010
1:08 am
@ ATL Tiger; will they leave the light on for me?
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UNaffiliated Voter
February 14th, 2010
9:23 am
Wow, greatATLguy…havent thought of the Gallus in years…you could usually find most anything you wanted there…Sunday brunch was a great big fun drunk time! It was an ATL institution back in the good old days of the 70s80s til AIDs brought much debauchery to a halt…
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Single and no Valentine....
February 14th, 2010
11:50 am
Hi Mikef61, Would you be my Valentine? Don’t know much about boats though…..
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Darek Wax
February 15th, 2010
2:33 pm
It is extremely interesting for me to read that blog. Thanx for it. I like such topics and anything that is connected to this matter. I definitely want to read more soon.
Best wishes
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Laura Kennedy
February 17th, 2010
1:58 pm
That’s all I grew up going to in the 70’s and 80’s along the gulf coast of Florida,from Clearwater to St. Pete Beach. I have lots and lots of very fond memories of them. They were much more quaint and cozy than the big high rises of today and you always met some friends, usually even with the owners. Also when you would ride down Gulf Blvd you could actually see the ocean. Now all you get is a glimpse through all the high rises. I sometimes miss my childhood years and all those little motels. And more than that I really miss all the small attractions Florida had. I would love to revisit that part of my life. Things just seemed so much simplier then.
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Chuck
February 17th, 2010
2:44 pm
The Plaza Beach Resort on St. Pete beach in Florida is great. It’s on Gulf Blvd surrounded by high rises although it’s only 2 stories. Not sure when it was built but it is very retro. The rooms are very clean and the staff is very friendly and helpful. It right on the beach with some nice amenities including a pool, shuffle board and even a little 3 hole minature golf setup. Lots of shopping and food nearby or some rooms offer small kitchens if you want to do it yourself.
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fer
February 17th, 2010
4:10 pm
There was one on St. Simons, and we stayed there the first time I went to the beach. It was 1953 and it was up near the Coast Guard station on East Beach. I’m not sure when it was torn down.
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fer
February 17th, 2010
4:16 pm
I meant to say I think it was called Craft’s.
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barb
February 17th, 2010
4:22 pm
I would love to stay at one…sounds like just the place to actually RELAX! There are still a few in Northern Michigan along Grand Traverse Bay/Lake Michigan, but sadly they too are being replaced by mega condo/hotel resorts. So sad.
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Angi
February 17th, 2010
4:28 pm
I tell people all the time who buy timeshares or book lavish vacations to resorts that they have no idea what they are missing out on. I love motels. I travelled the whole US for a year when I was in my 20’s and never had a clue where I was staying until I got there. Now I’m in my 40’s and my husband and I still never make arrangements to stay somewhere when we travel unless it’s for business. Whether it’s to Niagra Falls Canada where the motel owner threw in free meals to their little cafe or to the coast of Oregon where you could open your door and walk straight to the ocean they are fantastic! Some of the most generous people I have ever met owned motels and were willing to look kindly on 2 young people who could barely scrape together 20 bucks for a room and knocked off 5 dollars just to make sure we had enough to eat on too. I am so happy to see that they are coming back so strong when I never knew they had fallen out of favor in the first place. At least not with me!
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Phil Machen
February 17th, 2010
4:29 pm
For years we stayed at a great little place at Panama City Beach called the Beachcomber. Hurricane something came close to tearing it completely down and we started staying in Mexico Beach. This past summer I rented a hugely expensive house for us and all the kids and was laying on the beach and noticed what looked like the old Beachcomber. It was. Someone saved it and I think I’ll rent the whole thing next summer!
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Cluett Peabody
February 17th, 2010
4:38 pm
My wife and I stayed in one on the PCH about 11 years ago. We took a two week trip from Denver down through Colorado, Arizona, and Nevada and then from L.A. up the PCH to Sanfrancisco. We stayed in this mom/pop hotel just south of the Monterey Pennisula and could hear the ocean all night.
The next morning we walked down to the beach to watch the molting sea lions. Best part of the trip and there were a lot of really good parts of that trip.
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Brill
February 17th, 2010
4:40 pm
Used to stay at a great little “mom and pop” called Aaron’s By The Bay. It was right at the intersection of the bridge across Appalachicola Bay to Appalachicola and the bridge that went out to St. George Island. They were putting money into it and renovating it in the early 2000’s, but now believe it has closed for good. It was a classic motor court.
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Beth
February 17th, 2010
4:46 pm
We used to stay at a place called Seagrove Villas. These were individual units vs a motor court but the same sort of casual atmosphere. Don’t know if it’s still there or not, but a great place.
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Pam M
February 17th, 2010
4:47 pm
I have stayed at the Cavelier in Kill Devil Hill, N.C. many times and consistently found it very clean with all of the amenities that I needed for a stay at the beach. The location is amazing and the rates are reasonable. Ultimately, when you are at the beach, the majority of the time is spent out of doors so the simplicity of the rooms is not a problem.
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Store Brand Fan
February 17th, 2010
4:47 pm
Not at the beach, per se. In New England, you can still find tons of these in fine shape – clean, inexpensive and in nice surroundings. A great value!
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Sean
February 17th, 2010
4:58 pm
My partner, his parents and our four dogs stayed at The Postcard Inn over Christmas and give it a mostly resounding thumbs-up. The original rooms in the two-story section are small and nice (though not each one is unique as written) but the air conditioning apparently didn’t get the upgrade. It was steaming, even at Christmas. We got moved to a cabana room overlooking the massive pool and it was fantastic. Each room has a small yard with a hammock and a nice, large room. The poolside bar(s) weren’t open but looked wonderful and it has a great stretch of private beach before the public beach…very wide for the gulf coast. The public areas area extremely hip and the on-site restaurant is great and reasonably priced. We will stay there again….in a cabana, that is.
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Jim
February 17th, 2010
5:33 pm
My family and I have stayed at the Sea Oats Motel in Destin a few times, and can give it a huge thumbs up. Other than a lack of parking, it’s great. Stay in a motel room, and you’re five steps from your balcony to beach sand. Not a true motorcourt, but definitely the same idea…and we loved it! Cheap too…you bring your own towels/sheets to the office and swap em out, and save a bunch!
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sharon
February 17th, 2010
6:06 pm
Try the Sea Breeze Motal in Pacifica, CA on Highway 1 south of SanFran. Right on the water – and the best food (Crab Melt on Sourdough!) and live bands next door at Nick’s. It’s a slice of heaven with a small town feel and close to everthing in the Bay Area.
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Truthpaste
February 17th, 2010
6:06 pm
I miss the little things like motor courts and drive in theaters. Granted, it was before my time when they were in the heyday, but the idea of getting away from it all still attracts me.
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howard
February 17th, 2010
6:22 pm
I stay in one quite often, the Sea Horse, in Neptune Beach, Florida, one of Jacksonville’s beach communities. It is classic…and their Lemon Bar is a legend in the region, its opening…BEACH FRONT…signals the beginning of the season for beach goers. Just around the corner is Pete’s Bar, a dive that is THE meeting place for all those who love cold beer and a cool place. Neptune Beach and Atlantic Beach share their main street and a host of wonderful bars and restaurants…all within a couple blocks of the Sea Horse…where every room is ocean front and coffee is fresh in the lobby. It doesn’ get any better for those who want to park the car outside their room and enjoy a classic Florida beach experience. If you go once, you’ll go again…and, don’t forget to stop by Pete’s for a cold one, preferably late, very late in the evening.
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crudmudgeon
February 17th, 2010
6:36 pm
Here’s a great retro hotel in Jacksonville Beach, FL
http://www.palmsretro.com
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Amy
February 17th, 2010
8:01 pm
Jim, my parents started staying at Sea Oats in Destin about 2 years ago and now go twice a summer…they love that it’s on the beach, they can request the same room each time in advance…we used to stay at the El Governor at Mexico Beach back in the 80s & early 90s…the actual one-story motel, before they built any additions…in fact, it was when the beach access was a big sandy hill, no wooden steps, stairs, or anything! My parents would take myself and my two sisters, stay in a room with a double bed and ask for a roll-away…kitchen in room, only time of year my mom would make grilled ham and cheese sandwiches for breakfast…when we got older, my parents would let us bring a friend and we started staying in the two condos on the end…still love Mexico Beach, Tommy T’s and the Shell Shack!
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Al
February 17th, 2010
8:19 pm
Gulf Breeze or Sands (?) in Cedar Key has awesome dock with swings. Not much of a beach but right on the water. Great getaway.
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Emmy Lou
February 17th, 2010
8:33 pm
It’s not overlooking the beach but Lake Blue RIdge, it’s a small place on Old Hwy. 76, which is the scenic route, has been renamed the Blue Ridge Lodge and R.V. Park. We went there and stayed in several cute rooms with different family members over July 4th and took the open top train to Tennessee. The town is great. Someone recommended it because it was very budget priced and the rooms were all renovated. The website is http://www.brlodgervpark.com, I would stay there again!
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Keith
February 17th, 2010
8:38 pm
Wow, so many great places to try! Thanks everyone!
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Marie
February 17th, 2010
8:53 pm
Tradewinds Motel in Panama City Beach, Florida. We stayed at several motels there over the years, but we always came back to Tradewinds. We travelled with friends and their families, and it was special.
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Jeff
February 17th, 2010
9:22 pm
Wow, great feature piece! These kinds of places are WONDERFUL, and many times the service and quaint feeling is much, much better than saving 10 bucks at some chain hotel that has zero charm and warmth.
My family has stayed at a family-owned motel for GENERATIONS in Daytona Beach Shores, Florida… and I do mean “generations.” My grandparents started going to a place called Shoreline All Suites Inn back in the early 1950s, when my mother was just a baby. The place was owned by a very nice fellow named Mr. Molnar. Over the years, my grandparents returned again and again and again… every year, then as they retired in the 1980s, sometimes twice a year, then they would stay for a whole month, then one month in the spring and one in the fall. My mother, aunts, uncles, cousins would all go on various trips… when my mom married my dad, they went on close-to-home vacations when my brother and I were young, but when we were old enough to appreciate an 8-hour car trip, we started going there as well. Now, my wife and I vacation there every summer, and my parents — close to retirement age themselves — still take my grandparents down every spring.
They still visit Mr. Molnar, who sold the motel about 15 years ago to his son, who is my age and still runs it today. The place has been renovated and upgraded some, but it still retains the same look, feel and charm that I remember as a kid. It is now surrounded by numerous high-rise hotels and condo units that have replaced similar family-style motels, but Shoreline still does great business and is still a wonderful destination. It has both regular 50s-style motel rooms, connecting suites, and even unique cottage units — in fact, the cottages served as the home offices and officials quarters for the first few Daytona 500 stock car races back in the 1950s.
If you would like a small, quaint, family-style place that is literally a few steps from the beach when you’re in Daytona, look up Shoreline All Suites Inn… the staff is warm and personable, the rooms are clean, the atmosphere is wonderful, the rates are competitive, and the charm is unique.
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mystery poster
February 22nd, 2010
9:07 pm
We went to Ober Gatlinburg Feb 6th. The skiing was great. I’m not a very experienced downhill skier, so it was fine for me. Close and inexpensive. I don’t think I would have gotten much more out of traveling halfway around the country and spending 4 times as much. We got lucky as far as the weather, a dusting of snow the night before we skied.
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Chris
March 1st, 2010
4:43 pm
I’ve stayed at the Postcard Inn and its all its cracked up to be. The renovation put money where it needed to be from a functional perspective. Great beds, latest flat-screen TV’s, awesome outdoor sound system, killer pool, and a rockin’ restaurant. Bathrooms didn’t get a facelift, but they did replace all the plumbing, so while it may look like the circa-60’s bathroom of your youth, the shower throws off some major water pressure, which is all I care about. They were very deft with the PCI beach bar, formerly the institution known as the Swigwam, and kept all the decor and updated the bar machinery. What a FANTASTIC spot to have a drink and watch one of the best sunsets around. And how about value..beer and a burger for under $10. That’s a stimulus package!
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March 3rd, 2010
9:40 pm
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jp
March 9th, 2010
4:01 am
I am planning to stay home and catch up with much needed sleep and R&R
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Ole Guy
March 10th, 2010
12:50 am
BOOOOOORING!
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Ole Guy
March 10th, 2010
1:24 am
I don’t know what the hell your problems are. I fly a few times a month to aerodromes from the size of JFK to “Hootersville Intl”…max time in line around 15 to 20 minutes…never had a problem.
Is all the TSA stuff somewhat intrusive and perhaps a little inane? I would have to say yes…BUT…it’s all we got. If some brainless moron wants to start in with the “sheeple” stuff, go right ahead, shtick-for-brains. While you complain about your rights being violated, the rest of us will be tending to our business.
We’ve become so damn spoiled and demanding; just like infants who, at the first hint of discomfort, start crying, all we care about is our personal comfort.
1) no need to obey traffic signs, they just impede your freedom to do as you please. To hell with others, you’re special…don’t let others get in your way.
2) never subject yourself to the humiliation of having to stand in any line. Once again, you’re special, and shouldn’t be expected to subject yourself to the inconveniences with which others must contend.
Need I go on, people? Just shut the hell up, know the simple rules, and do it!
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Part Time Sea Island Resident
March 10th, 2010
4:18 pm
I have spent my entire life enjoying Sea Island as a visitor and the many friends we have made there. We have loved it so much that my wife and I bought a vacation home there in 1975. We have known all three generations of the family that owns the resort. While the first and second generation of this family had an acute understanding of the needs of its customers, it is clear the third did not. Many changes were made to the operations and facilities in an effort to make it more “posh”, but less accomodating. In doing so new management did not fully appreciate the marvelous qualities Georgians possess – that of not being snobs. This move towards exclusivity (whatever that means) has only alienated us Sea Islanders from most of the year-round people who live in the area. This is sad. I think it is very possible that the new owners of the Sea Island resort will realize how important it is to better integrate ourselves into the community (as we once were), restoring some of thewonderful tradtions now gone, while removing some of the obstacles that have become prohibitively expensive to maintain. Let’s hope things get better!
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former visitor
March 10th, 2010
5:02 pm
I have many fond memories of the Cloister of yesteryear. Haven’t bothered to go back once it was “improved” as it seemed management was interested in a different clientele. Notice they advertise heavily in the NYT – maybe it’s the monied New Yorkers they’re trying to entice instead of the regulars folks who made it the wonderful place it used to be.
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greg sorrow
March 10th, 2010
5:45 pm
I grew up in Brunswick, just a few miles from Sea Island and St Simons and even spent one summer pushing a lawnmower for the Sea Island Company. It was interesting spending that much time up close to the “rich and famous”. One day, Mrs. Sanders, wife of our long ago governor, brought us something to drink and talked to us. The American Cancer Society relay for life had events on Sea Island and aided in raising thousands of dollars to fight cancer as my mother used to work for the cancer society. Old money people were always friendly while new money people were snobbish, usually. Hopefully the island will retain its charm and beauty.
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Chicago Visitor
March 10th, 2010
6:16 pm
I have vacationed at Sea Island for years, first as a youngster and then as an adult looking for that wonderful slow pace and hospitality of Sea Island. I was there last week and although I enjoyed the golf courses – this special place has not been the same since before the G-8 summit. The third generation did a great deservice to the history of the resort by not being better stewards of this special place – instead greed and arrogance took over. They only looked at the upside and never contemplated a downside case to their models. Shame on those banks as well for indulging Bill’s folly that put the resort in jeopardy. I hope they find someone that will restore Sea Island to it’s roots.
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SE GA Resident
March 10th, 2010
6:22 pm
As a resident of St. Simons Island for fourteen years, I find it sad that Sea Island Company is having hard times, but I promise the beauty of this area is still intact. I don’t know where you are finding the national chain stores, but I don’t think it’s on SSI or Sea Island. Yes, they are in Brunswick, but we are happy they are, for it allows more convenient shopping. We do have some chain restaurants, but they are needed to feed the tourists and locals. The family-owned restaurants are still around.
Please stop trying to paint such a bleak picture and scare off visitors to this beautiful island.
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UNaffiliated Voter
March 10th, 2010
8:03 pm
I would imagine that our Presidunce could take it over successfully…can you say bailout?
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Island Girl
March 10th, 2010
8:57 pm
Count me in as one who grew up in Glynn County – Brunswick/St. Simons. As a teen I spent a summer working for the Sea Island Company. Other than a source of part time employment and a nice place to take a Sunday drive to look at the “cottages” Sea Island didn’t play much of a role in our lives. (Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the Sea Island Dances I attended as a teen during the disco era!)
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Calvin Coolidge
March 10th, 2010
9:28 pm
The place used to have class. It’s been awhile since it went way over the top. Pathetic!
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SSI resident
March 10th, 2010
10:10 pm
When we moved to SSI from the Atlanta area in the late 1980s, Sea Island still had the “Old Charm” which was an easy going pace. Both of our sons worked for Sea Island during the summers and they also attended the weekend dances for the teens. Both sons learned to dance and also learned manners of how to escort young ladies. They were welcomed by Sea Isalnd Mgt. so there would be enough young males there dance with the young girls.
One son worked in the fine dining restaurant and waited on politician’s families (Carl Sanders) and celebrities (John Travolta). The other son worked in the old Beach club as a cook and waiter. They had some great times during those years.
We also had a membership card (free) where we could actually get on the island and eat dinner which we never actually did. We also got all of the flowers for our son’s dates at the flower shop. We also could ride our bikes out there any time we wanted.
Too bad it went exclusive and catered to the billionaires. When they finished the renovation to the Cloister and built the security gate, that was the end to the “old Sea Island.” There are not many people that could afford over $1,000 a night for a room. So, they built a beautiful resort but who could afford to go there except billionaires.
Too bad they ruined the old for the new. They ruined the charm by making a resort too exclusive.
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Craig
March 10th, 2010
11:33 pm
Part time Sea Island Resident has nailed it. As I understand it, this fantastic company (Historically) had no debt to speak of until current management/generation undertook it’s “exclusive” vision which clearly abandoned it’s roots. And how the heck did it’s lenders think it was a sound financial plan to have something like 3 times (or more) per key/ room cost over an average Four Seasons or Ritz Carlton? The recession has claimed many real estate victims: Sea Island, enabled by lenders with stars in their eyes, seems to be a victim of it’s own design. Having said that, I sincerely hope that this wonderful Georgia institution survives with the assistance of a deserving investment group.
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RADLY
March 11th, 2010
6:10 am
Riches do not protect those who would be irresponsible. Forest said it best…”stupid is…as stupid does.”
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georgiadawg70
March 11th, 2010
6:33 am
My family and I began staying at the Cloister three decades ago. I considered my little peice of heaven when we were there. We were not their biggest customers but I think we were good customers. We probably stayed there three times every five years like many other Georgia families. When they tore down the old buildings and started chaarging a thousand dollars a night they threw out all of us like old garbage for the rich A-Rab and European money. I hop Bill Jones burns in hell.
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Willis
March 11th, 2010
8:08 am
I lived on St Simons in an area close to Sea Island and Frederica Roads. I did not like it when Glynn County gave much of Sea Island Road to the Sea Island Company which promptly built a barricade just before the bridge that so many people used to fish, crab, throw a shrimp net and just view the marshes. In exchange, Sea Island Company contributed to a new pier on the west side of St Simons, but it was just not the same.
Sea Island residents could keep their privacy and safety concerns, but that causeway and bridge should be returned to the people.
Maybe the new owners will tear down that barricade and allow people (who helped build the bridge with their tax dollars) use of the bridge again. Maybe the new owners or Glynn County would build sidewalks/bikeways alongside Sea Island Road out to the bridge so others could enjoy the view across the marshes.
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Bubba
March 11th, 2010
8:23 am
My bride and I had a blissful honeymoon at Sea Island in the days of the old Cloister. While our kids were growing up we were more likely to vacation at a Pawleys Island area beach house or camp at Cumberland Island. Recently we had a brief visit to Sea Island Lodge for a meeting. It’s nice, but not the same as the classy old Cloister.
My theory is that Sea Island started down the road to perdition when they put TV sets in the rooms.
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Stone Barrington
March 11th, 2010
8:38 am
Bubba, that’s an exceptional observation on the TV’s there…love it.
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Grace DeVita
March 11th, 2010
8:40 am
Sea Island, the Cloisters is my favorite place in the world! The stately southern charm is irresistible. They can’t change the place….
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Native Atlantan
March 11th, 2010
9:29 am
I grew up vacationing every Summer on Sea Island (for past 38 years). It was the perfect destination for Atlanta families, and I could always count on seeing friends and making new ones. Now, however, it is just like going to a Four Seasons or Ritz. It’s nice, but impersonal. Most visitors are not local, and you certainly don’t make friends like in the past. There is no reason to return. They’ve outpriced most Atlanta families, and it’s overly-exclusive attitude appeals only to new money. Too bad.
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Mobes
March 11th, 2010
9:44 am
Over hyped and over priced. Sea Island has always been a pleasant resort to gather with family for a relaxing short vacation. As for the beach and location…5 stars it is not … and never has been. Why bother with other’s folly. Sea Island will go forward under new owners with a more realistic perspective of value. Yes, Sea Island is being deflated in prices and self imagine. All for the better.
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MT
March 11th, 2010
9:51 am
I am likewise from Glynn County and worked at Sea Island Co for 3 summers during school.
As a bartender at the old Beach Club, I served and talked to a wide range of guests, from the members I knew to the guests from Atlanta and Europe. The new Cloister was widely viewed as too impersonal and expensive, since if you were considering getting 2 rooms there, you might as well consider renting out a cottage from the rental pool. This is emblematic of Bill Jones’ lack of listening to his guests and members, and more about his ego. One thing that particularly surprised me is that when planning and designs were being drafted on the new Beach Club, the staff was widely overlooked for suggestions and ideas on how to make the new Beach Club even better than the old one. While the new Club might have more pools, it lost the relaxed, casual of the old Beach Club.
I could not tell you the number of quality managers whose backgrounds were from Hilton, Ritz, etc. that were run off from the Beach Club due to frustrations with how the operation was run. There were several instances where BJ3 would personally override a popular guest item when he simply didn’t like how it was perceived.
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Jeffrey
March 11th, 2010
10:10 am
My wife and I vacation every year on St. Simon’s. A few years ago we decided to treat ourselves to lunch at the Cloister on Sea Island, only to be told it was not open to the public. We have been lucky enough to travel other places and have enjoyed dining at the Breakers in Palm Beach and even the luxurious Cap du Eden Roc on the Mediterranean at Cap d’ Antibes in France. We were disappointed that we could not lunch at the Cloister, but now think that may be their problem. It’s hard for me to have any sympathy for their financial situation, when they could have made good money off of us in the past and possibly the future. We will still go to St. Simon’s as we always do, and we will always consider Sea Island off limits to riff raff, like us.
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Almost a native
March 11th, 2010
10:14 am
My husband and I moved our family to St. Simons in the 80’s to enjoy a more relaxed way of life. When friends and relatives would come to visit, a drive across the Sea Island causeway was always part of the entertainment. A slow trip down the drive to see the cottages and dream of “someday” after our ship comes in, or winning the lottery, which cottage would we want to buy? Even enjoyed a night at the old Cloister hotel, courtesy of a client, and several meals at the Clositer and Beach Club. The gate put an end to the drives down the main drive to dream about “someday.” It is such a shame that greed and the desire to be among only the very, very rich and famous has now come to where it is today. Billy Jones, I’m sure will never suffer hard times personally, but he has put an end to all of the extended family that relied on Sea Island as their primary source of income. Can you imagine how welcome he is at the Family Thanksgiving Dinner… about as welcome as ants at a picnic!
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Russ555
March 11th, 2010
10:19 am
We still vacation at St. Simons. Used to like Hilton Head but it got to big and crowded. St. Simons is more comfortable now. It’s now our favorite place for a weekend at the beach.
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Russ555
March 11th, 2010
10:28 am
Almost a native – I have a friend who was a member of the extended family and retired a few years ago at the age of 35. Have not heard for him in years. Have to wonder.
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C J Rose
March 11th, 2010
10:30 am
As a small B & B owner for 15 years in Brunswick, I had the opportunity of meeting travelers from all places. Some of them even stayed with me when there was a function they had to attend on Sea Island. They stayed with me because of the rising prices. Others who had visited Sea Island years earlier wanted to splurge for an anniversary or birthday by going for dinner. Imagine their surprize when they were told they could not have dinner unless they were members or guests. They felt as though they were being treated as bad children. So many tinmes my gueats would try to take a ride to Sea Island only to b turned away at the gate. My husband and I used to enjoy quiet Sunday afternoons after our guests left by having a late lunch at the Retreat Club House (now caled the Corn Barn). It,too, was closed to non-membrs. How many times can you turn people away and expect them to come back. From what I have observed of the area, those businesses that don’t consider the locals, don’t make it. Even Sea Island members stopped going to the members only restaurants and started frequenting the fine restaurants on St. Simons because the food and the atmoshere were better.The Jekyll Island Cub became the place of choice for elegant weddings and well as weddings and special events by superb caterers like Straton Hall. Perhaps we can look at the bright side. We in Brunswick & the Golden Isles are survivors of sorts. As we tighten our belts, Sea Island is loosing their shirts. The end of an era -perhaps. The beginning of a new way for all of us – I think so.
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Former Demere Rd Resident
March 11th, 2010
10:37 am
So many residential and commercial developmental changes have taken place back home since I moved to Atlanta. Some good decisions, but mostly bad. I grew up down the street from the south-end fire station, which was housed near the King & Prince. My aunt took me with her during the summer to help housekeep for the wealthy part-timers. Back during the early 70’s as kids of color, we were shunned from socializing with children of guests. We only wanted to play with them at the beach, run in the sun side by side, and teach them how to keep fiddler crabs living long enough to fish with the next day.
I can’t relate to the stories of knowing management or other guests as intimately. We were only as valuable as the service we provided. I remember being pulled into the kitchen many times when the guests would enter the home, including their children. We were told to stay out of the way and folks like us were not to be seen unless requested.
But my reference point of the new management was impacted when so many of my family members and childhood friends were layed off during the transition. I was in college in Savannah at that time. Loss of jobs for residents of Demere Rd, Harrington, Jew Town, and Proctor Lane meant fewer resources to take care of families at home. This spelled devastation for many I knew and a nervous scrambling to look for work “in town.” Many of us would always cringe at the thought of having to cross the bridge daily for work. Having to attend school there after SSI Elem. was sad enough.
But old or new management, I recall countless stories of family members and friends who over generations, suffered so many physical and respiratory injuries and illnesses from tolling endlessly to keep many of your cottages spotless, yards kept, and properties safe. Their stories are under the radar.
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crudmudgeon
March 11th, 2010
10:48 am
Having grown up in Brunswick when Sea Island was still ‘open’ to the people of Glynn County I remember as a child all too well the Sunday afternoon drives to see the ‘millionaire’s’ homes on the island. I had friends whose family belonged to the Beach Club and as children we were often dropped off in the morning to hang around there all day to swim and have our lunch on the parents tab. A number of years ago Sea Island ended memberships for locals except for those lucky enough to have property on the island. So all the good will that years and years of local patronage had produced was gone overnight. (closing the causeway to locals was the nail in the coffin) My remaining friends who’ve lived in Glynn County forever who used to be proud of Sea Island now refuse to send visiting friends there to stay at the Cloister. And having lived in Atlanta for years myself I recently asked some of my Glynn County friends living here if they refer their acquaintances to Sea Island to stay and to the person all of them say they don’t. So a whole book of business that used to flow to the island is no longer there.
I think the ultimate irony would be for a large foreign company(how about Tata, Inc.?)to buy the place, turn it in to a giant Days Inn staffed with members of the Patel family so that the place would begin to actually service the ‘average’ Georgian much like Jekyll Island should. My only question would be; would all the snooty Republican Fortune 500 Execs abandon the island overnight? Sweet revenge?
And if the beach is owned by the citizens of Georgia how is the average guy supposed to access it if the causeway is closed?
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Realtor
March 11th, 2010
10:55 am
The best result would be the Company broken up into smaller manageable (and thus less risky) ventures. This is already happening with the deeding of the Frederica Township property, and the Cannons Point property to Wells Fargo (WF). Cannons Point is in process of sale by WF. The Frederica Golf Course & Club will probably be sold off seperately from the Residential lots. The Stables Tract is still owned by WF, but leased to a professional operator that has opened it to public use. Additionally, the Cabin’s Bluff Resort & Conference Center was traded to the Mead family for an undisclosed property; obviously the Mead’s will continue to operate the Cabin’s Bluff property. If this pattern is followed with the remaining assets, the Lodge, the Island Club Clubhouse, The Retreat and Plantation golf courses, the Cloister Hotel, Ocean Forest Golf Club, and the remaining developed & undeveloped residential properties will all be sold off in bankruptcy at 30 cents on the dollar to the loan amounts, to seperate corporate owners, and operated as public resorts. The first thing to go will be the gate at the Sea Island Road. When all this happens – and it most certainly will – the Property(s) will once again be profitable and a draw. Unfortunately, all the Sea Island Club Memebers will lose their private club, and of course their “refundable” application fee deposits (most over $100,000.) will be unrecoverable under the inevitable bankruptcy. The key is, this can and will be a very profitable set of public resort properties to own & operate, and will prompt an swift economic recovery for the Golden Isles. In my opinion, now is a good time to buy real estate down here – while the prices are low, bargains can be found, and in time to benefit from a recovering economy.
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Mairzy
March 11th, 2010
10:58 am
Bubba, I too was there during the years of no TV in your room. What a difference. I still go at least one or twice a year, but no longer stay at the Cloister (rather rent a cottage).
I feel that the new beach club and many activities on the island have been targeted towards children versus adults. This is a huge mistake. Under no circumstances do I want my grandchildren catered to, to this proportion.
Another big mistake was building the numerous beach condos, seen as soon as you enter the island. Looks like a Florida developer trying to make money…no old world feeling there. But calm, peace, and tranquility can be found further down Sea Island Dr. as you reach the cottages.
Another mistake was made when Sea Island took away permanent City Ledger Club Memberships. (One had to be sponsored by fulltime members and approved.) The exclusivity of Sea Island has been replaced by greed, ego, and the desire for big new money.
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HB
March 11th, 2010
11:44 am
The decline started about 10 years ago. The powers that be failed to recognize that the charm of Sea Island was not primarily its buildings or its beach. It was the homey atmosphere that drew in the rich and famous long-time patrons — the long-term staff they developed relationships with, the dining rooms open to nonmembers where locals would come for special occasions (the prices kept it exclusive enough), and the quiet, noncorporate atmosphere. People like the Bushes and John Travolta could go anywhere they pleased. If they had wanted an exclusive, “world-class” resort, there were always plenty to choose from. A crew of Enron-era, B-school guys came in determined to strip Sea Island’s charm in an effort to become like other newer resorts they viewed as successful. The new lodge went up and during the off-season, the dining rooms have always been nearly empty — at the old Island Club, nonmember paying diners would drop in during the slow times. How is it good business sense to cut revenue sources and nightly operate empty restaurants for the sake of a new, more exclusive branding plan? The highly successful real estate office that operated on SSI and was filled with the best agents poached from other area companies in the mid-90s was also cut because it didn’t “reflect the brand”. They put a lower cap on available memberships to make Sea Island more exclusive — again, cutting revenue. And while cutting off all those revenue sources, they were building, building, building.
So will it lose its luster if sold? Nope. The luster is already gone. It hasn’t felt like a homey, family-owned resort for years.
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Do you have it?
March 11th, 2010
11:49 am
Remember one thing if nothing else. If you use the word class or classy you most likely don’t have any.
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Old Southern Upbringing
March 11th, 2010
12:09 pm
Amen to the words class & classy. You must be related to my grandmother (born in 1895)…she always used the term, of good character, and taught me to do likewise.
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ED
March 11th, 2010
12:10 pm
Wow, just wow. Why do all of you want go to Sea Island? To rub shoulders with the rich or to enjoy the coastal experience? Do you think you’ve missed out on life just because you don’t live in a million dollar “cottage” or can’t eat dinner at the Cloister? This is the kind of attitude that helped build that place. I love the St Simon’s/Jekyll, coastal Georgia area. I’ve always looked over at Sea Island and felt that those people were too busy trying to impress each other to enjoy the beauty that surrounds them. Surely the more money you spend for a room on Sea Island, the better experience.
The Sea Island Club should be allowed to go under. If public money (and it is) is being used to maintain the roads/bridges/fire/police/etc then the beaches should be open for all. I for one however, will not visit.
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mo
March 11th, 2010
12:26 pm
wow, i find it interesting that people expect their childhood home or retreat to remain untouched while the rest of the world should bear the burden of all their starbucks and outback steakhouse desires. Everytime i hear people talk about Sea Island its like an exclusive club that only a few wealthy “in the know” should enjoy….im glad the overpriced development is going under…how about opening it to the “classy” masses…snobs.
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Former Sea Island Employee
March 11th, 2010
1:02 pm
I was so excited to find a position at Sea Island in 1996. At that time it was a wonderful place to work. Living on St Simons Island with a great job so close by was a dream. However, that dream fell apart with the money and fame hungry third generation of the family. They have made it inaccessible to those of us who would love to work, eat and spend time there. What a crying shame!
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Rob Vinson
March 11th, 2010
1:13 pm
I have never stayed at the Cloister or the Lodge, but have driven through a few times over the years. Now, when i have a chance to go to the GA Coast, i head to Little St. Simons Island, which is not far from Sea Island. 10,000 plus acres, 7 miles of private beach, 30 guests on the island max. at a time and 30 staff members. It’s a wonderful place. Plenty of animals and nature and they have it right because they know how to treat people. Check it out if you can!
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 11th, 2010
1:48 pm
Sea Island has been destroyed by greed,arrogance and debt. former CEO’s mc crary and everett are the ones to blame. they lead mr. jones III down the path to destruction and reaped the benefit of large incomes and benefits. they both are locals from Georgia and they flushed the values of the Jones family. when history reviews the truth it will be stranger than fiction.
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Edward
March 11th, 2010
1:50 pm
I was engaged at the Cloister, married at the Cloister, honeymooned at the Cloister, and spent my anniversary at the Cloister. I felt that I had bought a slice of time that could never be taken away from my wife and me. I hope that I was not wrong in that assumption…..
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Coastal Dawg
March 11th, 2010
2:11 pm
Realtor,
Your comments prove you have no clue about the process or what is currently happening with Wells Fargo or Goldman Sach’s efforts to dispose of the assets. Not even close.
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ATL Banker
March 11th, 2010
3:03 pm
Sea Island turned away the GA Bankers association, which is where they held meetings and conventions for years. They said, “Go away bankers, we don’t need your business anymore, we’re focusing on Billionaires.” Now, they would love to have us come bail them out, unfortunatly that’s not going to happen. Good bye to the Cloister, I’m sure some foreigner will come buy it for 20 cents on the dollar.
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 11th, 2010
3:35 pm
Coastal, you are correct in that the “realtor” has a dog in this fight. most, and i mean 95%, of the realtors in the SSI area are starving. many have lost everything they had in this downturn and they deserved what they got. living high on the hog, ski trips twice a year, new york three times a year, the carribean in winter, travel abroad, MB’S, lexus, jags and all on credit. now the bills have come due and they are filing chapter 11. let the good times roll!(the sea island company motto)
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The Cynical White Boy
March 11th, 2010
4:29 pm
The Rise and Fall of Sea Island reminds me of the “New” Coke debacle.
The “new” Coke CEO wanted to “make his mark” and he changed the Coke formula. Heh heh heh.
The “new” Jones at the helm wanted to “make his mark”. Well, he sure will be remembered, that’s for darn sure.
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Devildog
March 11th, 2010
5:05 pm
Considering I’m not rich or famous, I couldn’t care less if Sea Island loses its charm. Bulldoze it and throw up public housing from beach to beach.
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Cumberland Isl. Rules
March 11th, 2010
5:09 pm
I know some of you like to be treated as if you actually are more important than others, but all you’re doing is paying way too much to enjoy the beautiful scenery. Grab your camping gear and head down to Cumberland Island. Still beautiful and no snobs.
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Meemee
March 11th, 2010
5:34 pm
I too honeymooned at the Cloister and vacationed there for many years afterward. We enjoyed Nathalie Dupree’s Cooking School and we loved the family environment at the “old school.” So many people enjoyed the old world charm of the buildings and I know all of that went away with the bulldozer. I still reside part time on St Simons and enjoy what’s left of the slow pace there. There may be a couple of “chain” places on the island, but those who know, know where to go. Greed is such an ugly creature.
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Dan
March 11th, 2010
6:01 pm
Quote from the movie “Mame”:
“Exclusive….
Exclusive of whom?”
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Fred
March 11th, 2010
6:17 pm
The sea island of everyone’s childhood was gone years ago. The island lost it’s family values once Mr. Jones passed. We owned two homes on the island and sold them over the last decade because of what’s happened to the island. This is actually great news for the island and a new owner is the only way it can be saved. Drop the memberships! Open it up to the families again! Take out the guard posts and book the Tams and Drifters every Saturday Night. Maybe they should hire me to run the island.
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B Ha
March 11th, 2010
7:01 pm
in the late 80’s we used to take our children to the cloister for a few precious days each summer. it was a magical place for families and while pricey was a good value considering meals were included in the room rate. as the current management started “movin on up” they priced the family business out of their market and as i understand it courted a more corporate meeting clientele that centered around golf. when it was announced they would demolish the main building my family was heartsick. we stopped by one day to take a last stroll through the lobby and public areas. all with a lump in our throats. i do hope that the cloister can return to the gem that it was.
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North Ga Dawg
March 11th, 2010
7:05 pm
This is just a fine example of how the greed of some ruins things for all. I enjoy visiting the coast, but the select few that are trying to take everything over have got to go. It’s us “regular folks” that keep things going and appreciate the charm & beauty of the Golden Isles. Hope someone with sense can come to the rescue.
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Another REALTOR
March 11th, 2010
7:46 pm
Speaking of “reators,” I’ve never understood how Sea Island Company could, for all practical purposes, keep “non-Sea Island Company” agents from selling Sea Island properties. I have to give them the name of my client so they can see if my client is in their database? If my client is in their database, then I can’t earn a commission if I sell a “cottage” they have listed? How absurd is that? And guess what? If I was stupid enough to give them the name of my client . . . it goes straight in their database. The hoity toity attitudes, from Bill Jones on down, is what got them in trouble. Good enough for them!
And truth is stranger than fiction – please don’t put all SSI realtors in your sinking boat. I have every penny I ever made selling real estate sitting in the bank – and it’s not Synovus.
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Realtor
March 11th, 2010
8:10 pm
True, I do have a dog, a client, in this hunt. IIf he lfollows my advice he will make a killing in this resort market over the next decade. As to my predictions; son, I forecast this all for my clients 3 years ago, and every single thing I told them has happened, on schedule and precisely as predicted: right down to naming Goldman Sachs. Print it out and watch over the next 3 months. You can check off the correct predictions as they happen; a game everyone can play.
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 11th, 2010
9:08 pm
another realtor, how they pulled this off is why they have gotten in the debt situtation they are in now. they did it because as one former CEO put it, “because we could, sea island company answers to no body.” arrogance!!! congrats on your seeing the future and saving. i think you will agree most have spent it and are now out begging. buddy can you spare a dime.
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 11th, 2010
9:13 pm
realtor, are you saying you have a client and he will make a killing in this resort market? are you full invested in real estate on SSI and SI? some preach and some stay on the sidelines. if you knew about goldman then you are the only one cause the banks made this decision a very few weeks ago. if you think this market is going to recover in three months then i suggest you jump in now. for me, i see a 10 year period of adjustment in resort, residential, and commercial in SE georgia.
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Mr. P
March 11th, 2010
11:08 pm
Sea Island is getting what they deserve. Local business’s do not work for Sea Island. They don’t pay their bills. There house of cards have fallen down waiting for some Saudi billionaire to take over for pennies on the dollar.
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Brian
March 11th, 2010
11:29 pm
We went to Sea Island for many years starting in the early 80’sand always stayed in the guest houses. When we first started going the main building and River House didn’t have TV’s but the guest houses did. After our daughter was born, she loved coming every year, enjoyed the traditions and had a great time in the camp. It was almost like her second home. We continued coming through her high school years and into college. We first came with our in-laws and it was an opportunity for her to spend time with her grandparents since we live a long distance away.
After my father-in-law became more ill and later died, we continued to come.
We were aware of the plans to replace the main building and could see why that was supposedly necessary. However we weren’t told about what would happen with the Beach Club which had been renovated for the G-8 and couldn’t see a good reason for good buildings to be demolished for the condos.
Over the years, fewer and fewer of the employees who we would see year after year were left. Some grew to retirement age but others were forced out or retired earlier than they wanted.
At the end, we went to a manager’s reception. These used to be very nice events but this one was just an attempt to sell condos. When my wife was talking to someone who apparently was a salesman but was supposedly there to answer questions, he rudely turned away from her in the middle of a sentence to speak to a better prospect. My daughter was left in tears when we realized that the Beach Club where she had had so many happy memories would be replaced. We did write Bill Jones and received a reply but it was of the “I’m sorry if you were offended” type.
It would have been nice that if she ever had children, we could have continued the family tradition but I doubt that will happen because she is so bitter. My wife and I might go back to see it but it will never be the same. Progress is always necessary and nothing stays the same but many of these changes were so ill advised.
Over the years we and my in-laws spent a large amount of money at Sea Island and it became apparent that they didn’t care about our business anymore.
I wonder how many of these oh so important condos were sold.
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Its me Glynn
March 12th, 2010
7:46 am
I moved here in 05 and watched as the overseer’s of Sea Island wasted millions of dollars. I have seen them give away truck loads of very expensive building products. I have also stood by and watched a St. Simon Business owner plan how to get over on The Cloister by supplying c&d grade materials. It worked and he got paid. I can promise you this “the only thing real on that Island is the sand.” oh and the crooks. They are getting what they deserve. Just wish we could flush all the Realtors along side them down the toilet.
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JOHN BUNTIN
March 12th, 2010
7:55 am
THE RESPONSE IS OBVIOUS, THE JONES lll MANAGEMENT TEAM LOST THEIR FOCUS AND SOLD OUT TO THE LURE OF GREED. IT IS A SHAME THAT THE CLOISTERS, ONCE THE MOST PRIZED RESORT IN GEORGIA, TURNED IT’S BACK ON IT’S TRADITIONAL ROOTS AND SOLD OUT TO THE YANKEES. NOW, I GUESS SOME NEW YORK BANK WILL MAKE A FORTUNE AFTER “HOG SWAGGLING” THE JONES.. IT APPEARS THE CURTAIN HAS COME DOWN ON THIS BEAUTIFUL PAST. THE CLIENTELE THAT ENJOYED THE CLOISTERS DIDN’T NEED THESE CHANGES, SO NOW IT’S GONE. SAD.
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georgiadawg70
March 12th, 2010
7:58 am
I remember the days of no tv in the rooms. I would go to the lobby at 6:30 and watch the news and socialize with the other guest. It was part of the charm.
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georgiadawg70
March 12th, 2010
8:03 am
Maybe the new owners will tear it down and build an alligator farm and a motel 6 to appeal to the human sewage flowing down I95 from NY on their way to Fl. They have made Fl unbearable and now they can do it for Ga.
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everything changes...
March 12th, 2010
9:14 am
when the third generation came around, there were more mouths to suck off the teet of the sea island company, so the “jones’ ” had to do more to keep up with all the “jones’ “.
was at the beach club last summer and it looked like the jersey boardwalk had sent all it’s visitors south…tattoos, piercings, sideways ballcaps.
all good things come to an end and it looks like the cloister will become just another high end resort that will be run by some large corporation and loose it’s soul. thankfully that state is doing some work over at jekyll. maybe they will learn a little from the sea island spectacle and add some old school charm to the plans.
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vt
March 12th, 2010
9:17 am
We were lucky enough to live at SSI in the late nineties briefly after having vacationed there for 15 years. After moving back to Atlanta, and returning, it seems as if the Island has lost an essential element – families. More often than not, the homes belong to rental agencies or are vacation homes, and it has made a big difference in the entire island’s atmosphere. Don’t get me wrong, we still (and will always) love SSI, but it has changed. On Sea Island – we didn’t go there that much, but I am totally outraged that a barricade has been erected. That was one of the BEST crabbing spots, and the site of a great ghost story for my kids. It was really fun going there in the early a.m. and seeing the marsh rabbits through the fog. Really tacky on Sea Island’s part to distance themselves from the rest of the island.
Do check out St. Simon’s though. We particularly recommend Brogen’s in the Village and Sandcastle for breakfast,,,and Barbara Jean’s for the most awesome veggies and cornbread!
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Realtor
March 12th, 2010
9:28 am
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mairzy
March 12th, 2010
9:46 am
Oh no, that gate might not come down. Sea Island could end up being a Saudi playground, gate and all.
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bab
March 12th, 2010
10:36 am
My family has had a vacation home on St. Simons for three generations. While we loved laid-back St. Simons, it was always a rare treat to get dressed up and head over to the Cloister for a special dinner and bingo. As a teenager, I would hang out at the beach club with my Sea Island friends and pay cash at the snack bar ($5 for a grilled cheese and a coke). My family would horseback ride on the beach and rent bikes to tour the beautiful architecture and oak trees on Sea Island Drive. Over the years, the welcome mat was pulled away from visitors from St. Simons. It started off slowly–first with “members only” at the restaurants and finally with the erection of the guard gate. The memories of being turned away after all those years still sting. Now that I actually have the means to vacation regularly at Sea Island, why would I? I have only been one time as an adult. The new Cloister is very posh & very expensive, but I am unable to shake the feeling that the establishment has not earned my business. I just feel lucky that I have been able to travel to many other amazing places and know the difference between top notch and “exclusive”. I hope good things come back to St. Simons out of this unfortunate turn of events.
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VJ
March 12th, 2010
10:37 am
What’s all this “Yankee, Yankee” nonsense. The Joneses have been in Georgia more or less for a 100 years. This is the same old Southern insecurity at work, Atlanta imagining itself a “better” city than NEW York, the Braves “better” than the Yankees, collards better than pasta…Bill Jones imagining billionaires with access to the French Rivera, the Greek Isles, Sardinia, Tahiti, would make a bee-line for fly-bitten Georgia. Here’s a Yankee lesson: there are no loyalties anywhere.,
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Loyal Southerner
March 12th, 2010
12:54 pm
VJ, bless your heart, you just don’t know about Southerners and the good life. Honey, we don’t want to be like NYC.
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Former Employee
March 12th, 2010
3:41 pm
CJ Rose… the Retreat Clubhouse is still that. The Corn Barn is located between the 1st tees of the Seaside and Plantion golf courses at the Lodge.
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Former Employee
March 12th, 2010
3:52 pm
VJ, Atlanta may not be a “better” city than NYC… it just has better people living in it. This goes for pretty much everything south of the Mason Dixon… and I’m from Ohio! Now you can go tell yourself you did a good thing by voting for Obama.
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Realtor
March 12th, 2010
7:42 pm
Sorry about the empty post earlier, I was interrupted by a client to talk about the status of negotiations on the house they’re trying to buy down here. What I was going to say was, Yes, i do have a client that is one of many looking to profit from the Sea Island balkanization. And yes, I knew Goldman Sachs would be called in to be a mediator in the final stages. Someone would logically have to be, and the only likely candidates were Wells & Goldman. Wells was out because of the deed transfer of Frederica.. What was the other question? oh yes, I am fully invested in Golden Isles Real Estate and am advising all my clients to buy as much as they can afford now. I mean, come on, have you seen the prices things are selling for right now?. My comment about the 90 days was not to indicate that the economy would have recovered by then, just that the Sea island mess will be much less messy, and that prices will again start rising for all real estate in the area when those accomodations i predict have been reached between the new owner(s) and the banks. I don’t think it will be 10 years after that for a full local recovery, maybe 5 or 6, but the absolute bottom is almost here. Now is the time to buy in my opinion.
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 12th, 2010
8:27 pm
Realtor, wrong again!! it was always morgan, stanley til they screwed up the deal. as far as buying or selling anything here, you are making a living doing it. if you don’t recommend to buy then how do you make a living? i have never seen a way that realtors make any money in a down market. the 7% is suddenly 4% if you can get it. it is always buy, buy, buy and are you listing property? a very well known and successful real estate broker on SSI is quoted as follows,” list now and you will lose and by the way i can’t afford to advert your 2M house”. when i said you have a dog in this fight you know what i meant. come and see me in 5 to 7 years and you will know bottom.if you got property here i hope the bank has called you for a little de-leverage for it they have not they will soon.
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Mary
March 12th, 2010
9:48 pm
How can it be a good time to buy or sell. Surely the bottom is not even in sight yet.
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Realtor
March 15th, 2010
7:57 am
@truth – I’m listing, and I’m selling. Commision rates are still 6% and up, commercial @ 10%. It’s all moving – slower than 2 or 3 years ago, but still moving. I’ve seen an upturn in the past few weeks. No, it was never Morgan Stanley. With all the negative Synovus publicity, their Board was very leary of any involvement with Sea Island which took them out of consideration to be mediator – it’s possible Sea Island (you?) didn’t know that and was hoping to lure Morgan Stanley, but there was no way that was happening. Goldman was the only strong candidate in the field that actually felt like taking on the bad publicity aura that is Sea Island Company. Goldman takes the long view and seeks opportunity to leverage their own interest over a clients (see the stories on the Sawgrass Bankruptcy). No, the banks aren’t calling me personally to de-leverage because I only buy at a 25% LTV or less. Cash is King. Once again,the market is so close to the bottom as to make no appreciable difference. Buy now while there is no real competition. When it hits bottom hard enough for the masses to realize the rebound is coming, competition for these low priced homes will negate any negotiating advantage a buyer may have.
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 15th, 2010
1:38 pm
Realtor, this my final repy to your posts. what mobile home park at you buying in? didn’t you tell your clients three years ago to buy as the market was on the way up? reading the local sales of real estate is about like looking over the obit section of the local paper. all you guys and gals in the bidness base your recommendations on what you have experienced in the past. (unless you are 90 or above you missed the last depression) take a trip over the bankruptcy court and see some of your former clients in line to file. since one of every four residents of SSI are real estate sales agents, i think a bounty should be offered for thier hides to shrink the population before they kill each other off.
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Chicago Visitor
March 16th, 2010
11:05 pm
Realtor:
I would say that things are far from the bottom either locally or nationally (all real estate is local at the end of the day). The next crisis in our country is our states, county, and city municipalities with defaults on project specific bonds coming this summer into 2011 and beyond. Barron’s article missed the mark with the unfunded pension liability nationally – this is old news – although still a disgrace at trillions in liabilites. Every state in the union has a project specific muni bond that could default.
Listen, our country has been in a fundamental shift for several years which it will take some time to adjust – the average American is just beginning to understand this including my great southern brethen – I am a southern native. The current administration in Washington is lost but lest we get lost from the real need and that is the survival of the Sea Island community – a major equity partner or buyer is needed and the Jones family needs to be relegated to official greeter if they qualify.
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Anne Hamilton
March 17th, 2010
11:52 am
As of today Celebrity has no intention of making any adjustments to people holding tickets on the Mercury out of Charleston. My travel agent has been in touch with them and they plan to do nothing. I have serious doubts about going on this cruise . We are set to sail April 9,2010 and are very nervous about spending time on the ship and being sick..If the ship is not grounded in port we do not get our money back. I guess a fake doctors excuse is the answer…
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March 17th, 2010
11:59 am
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 17th, 2010
7:47 pm
chicago, u are correct. the jones family is not needed in any capacity nor are those left who retain the idea sea island company way is the only way. get rid of all the left overs and begin again. those left are just that left overs and should go to the trash bin.
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Jane Warren
March 17th, 2010
8:41 pm
If you don’t mind leaving the states, consider the Cayman Islands. They are in the western area of the Caribbean. We spend a lot of time in Grand Cayman – a beautiful island that is safe and clean and very accessible from the States.
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There are lots of water sports activities to keep you busy.
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Dan B
March 18th, 2010
10:46 pm
I read all the comments with great interest. I had always wanted to go to Sea Island as I heard so many good things about it from a long time home owner from Chicago that I did business with. I guess that was the old Sea Island so many of you long for. Sadly I missed that. My wife and our 4 kids 9,7,5,4 spent 2 weeks there last summer in the cloister – was originally going to stay at the Beach Club but that was sold out? We were upgraded to the Cloister’s Black Banks Suite ( a sign of business being slow) and had every 3rd day free. So while expensive in the in the end not much more than much lesser resorts I have visited and one room accommodated a family of six. I absolutely loved the place as did my entire family. Certainly some things were way over the top and other very expensive, 4 kid in kid camp ends up at $200 a day, many resort we visit its free. I can’t wait to go back. Service and friendliness was the best I ever experienced. The amount to do and facilities are top notch, never seen anything better. The only complaint was it was a bit too formal, women fully made up in the pool, thought that might be a southern thing and we are NY’ers. I imagine the old Sea Island would have been perfect for us but the new one was plenty good as well. I can’t wait to see the deals I can strike this summer!!! If I could I would buy a house there I couldn’t imagine a nicer place to spend my summers and retirement years. My feelings are now would be the time to buy a home. Perhaps the new owners won’t run it the same way but since they will get it cheap I expect it will remain nice and home prices will head back up. Of course listing prices are nothing like sale prices from what I have seen- last update from the Realtor was 60% of listing price. There are some foreclosure there that must be a steal – wish I had the money.
A question for those down there what is going on with the Ocean Forrest Golf club? How is it being effected by all of this?
I love Sea Island and hope it remains as one resort and perhaps it moves back in the direction that so many of you fondly remember.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Dan
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Janiquanaqua
March 19th, 2010
2:56 am
We usually ride out to KFC for the spring break, maybe spend some time in the grocery store taking up the whole isle.
Every now and then, we even go to the movie theater and talk (out loud) to the characters!
KEEP IT REEEAAAAL!!!
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truth is stranger than fiction
March 20th, 2010
8:49 pm
it is all over but the shouting!!! when will the pain end???
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Former Sea Island Employee
March 22nd, 2010
12:29 pm
The pain will never end!
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Louisville
March 22nd, 2010
10:33 pm
I just returned from my first visit to SI in about three years. After marrying at the Cloister 12 years ago, we were in the habit of going 2-4 times a year but have realized that we can’t sustain that standard of vacation living for the long haul. (Why get our kids attached to it?) Still, the place holds much sentimental and aesthetic appeal, particularly for my husband, whose Cloister memories date back 40+ years.
The good news: I found the level of customer service to be back at levels I haven’t seen since the privatization and rebuilding. To a person, the staff members were cordial and available to help at all times. The grounds are gorgeous and it certainly isn’t apparent that times are bad in terms of deferred maintenace or lackluster decor.
The bad news: All those nice staff members are new faces; gone is the no-tipping policy; the American meal plan is but a fond memory and the prices certainly don’t fit my family’s streamlined budget. Most regrettably, when you call the switchboard, no one says, “Thank you fuh callin’ the Cloistuh at Sea I-lun; how may I duhrek yore cawl?”
We have, sadly, put our Sea Island days behind us but are singularly grateful for the blessed years we considered it our home away from home. It was idyllic and hopefully will remain so for others.
…and I miss the peach soup and cornbread for lunch.
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Julie Brown
March 23rd, 2010
5:11 am
Start planning your easter break now, it is never to early. i found a new site which does the work for you, when you are looking for a hotel. http://www.thezouk.com
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null
March 25th, 2010
6:47 am
Wow. the post office really IS hurting for money, aren’t they?
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luangtom
March 25th, 2010
9:31 am
Sorry, but the US Postal Service has NOTHING to do with passports. US Department of State does.
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Unbelievable
March 26th, 2010
4:24 pm
Yeah, the USPS has NOTHING to do with it – nor does the US Department of State! I went to Post Office during the first rush for passports – at that time the web site stated it would take 8 to 10 weeks. I was into my 13th week and all the USPS would tell me was – “We just send in the paperwork, the State Department does all the work, check with them at this web site.” The web site told me they had assigned me a file number (but no explanation what that meant) emails went unanswered and phone calls resulted in hold for 15 minutes and then auto hang ups.) Calls to members of congress got the response – “We don’t get any more info that you do and unless it’s an emergency we can’t get involved.” No one seemed to care that the State Department would LIE about the time frame (and was telling the world how good they were on processing these but failing to meet their own published schedules…..)
I have the passport, it only took 15 weeks – no reasons for the delay, no response to emails, and will timely renew….. I HATE working with them and their flunkies – the USPS who wash their hands of ANY responsibility.
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remember voting time is coming up
March 26th, 2010
5:05 pm
You better remember the folks that are not assisting you in Congress and Senate when it is time to vote…again…soon.
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NoHateHere
March 26th, 2010
5:17 pm
My husband ordered his passport February 22nd at a local post office, and got his passport in the mail last week. I have found that when you’re nice to people at the USPS, they are usually nice to you. I’m sure they get hassled all day long for things that they cannot control. The lady who did passport intake was awesome!
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Believe It
March 26th, 2010
9:24 pm
My wife, myself and our two teens got our passports in about three weeks. Sounds like Unbelievable Karma to me.
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Rocky's Daddy
March 26th, 2010
9:44 pm
so, ya wait 15 weeks to get it, and what does it cost?
$135? $145? $155? It is good for 10 years!
It can be pro rated at less than 16 bucks
per year. I travel just once per year.
I am a native Atlantan living in Japan.
I go to the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo to renew.
Our 5-year-old needs to renew sooner than
I do. He holds a Japanese and a U.S.
passport. Kids need to renew more
often simply because the photo
is more likely to be different from
the real face. He was an infant
at the time of his first passport
photo.
Our once per year international travel
is from here in Japan back to Atlanta.
My wife is Japanese. Please, consider
here an adopted Georgia peach
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Rocky's Daddy
March 26th, 2010
9:47 pm
can’t edit …
… I meant “her;”
consider HER not HERE
a GA. PeacH
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kaygeeone
March 26th, 2010
10:25 pm
My wife and I got our passports in 14 days. Had the pics taken at Wal-Mart, went to the courthouse and filled out the paperwork and gave the pics to the clerk. That was about 7 or 8 years ago. The cost then was like $75 bucks but we had no problems getting them, and like I say it only took 2 weeks. We had a blast in Grand Cayman.
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DLink
March 26th, 2010
11:13 pm
In the military, I didn’t need a passport, I still don’t, not traveling, got that out of my system. During the complex negotiations with cyberwar going on, I may need to bury a parent in foreign soil. I now have an $80 passport in order to do that should it become necessary. I’m just glad I did it now rather than later.
*yawn* Just another morbid take on bodily disposition.
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DLink
March 26th, 2010
11:17 pm
http://www.freeworldgroup.com/games8/gameindex/catwithbowgolf2.htm
I played cat with bow one, and I see a second “golf course”. Post your scores!
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DLink
March 26th, 2010
11:30 pm
Birdied the first hole.
Eagled the 2nd.
Eagled the 3rd
Eagled the 4th
Eagled the 5th
Birdie the 6th, that one should get easier.
Eagle the 7th That’s interesting.
Y’all have fun out there, wherever you may be. Mandatory passports!!! “SOCIALISM!!!”
You guys brought it up. Pay it forward. I’ll be at the register.
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Neil
March 27th, 2010
1:10 am
Y’all complain about everything the government does(rightfully so) but then support them getting more involved in your life…..
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Ashley
March 27th, 2010
12:52 pm
We just got back from Cancun. We had a 3 Night Free trip to Park Royal Cancun. Just to had to take a tour. It was totally worth it. Here’s the number 877-246-1528
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Southern Gent
March 28th, 2010
4:28 am
Didnt even check my passport when I went to Alabama last week, welcome center was nice….lol
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Doug Kennedy
March 28th, 2010
4:30 am
The Post Office collects the fees, but the State Department issues the pasport. Fees are going up because Obama is making us pay for Hilliary’s worthless trips around the world. Yet another source of income from the working class for the bulging Obama administration to squander.
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ali50
March 28th, 2010
9:20 am
2 of my kids just got new passports since they were under 16 when they got their last ones. Post office told us 3-4 weeks until delivery. We shall see. You can get your photos taken at the post office for $15.
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Kk
March 29th, 2010
12:32 pm
I have a passport for myself and my 3 kids. I have renewed my kids passport every five years. What I really really CANNOT stand–is that a new passport costs the same as a renewal passport–Since a passport has already been issued, the passport fees should be less and less paperwork should be submitted. They already know I am a citizen the first time I applied for a passport, why keep sending a birth certificate? A lot of people dont renew their passports due to the fees…and by the way.. We have never used our passports….
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WTF
March 29th, 2010
12:45 pm
Bitch and moan – if you don’t like the process, the fees or the service, don’t get a passport. Or better yet, get a one-way ticket out of the country and you won’t need a passport to return!
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dh
March 29th, 2010
12:52 pm
It is good to have a valid passport. You never know when you are going to need to skip the country.
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DWommy
March 29th, 2010
1:27 pm
I was dreading the passport process based on critiques I’d heard from others in the past but the process was super easy. It cost like $110 including the picture from Walgreens. Plus I’d considered paying the expedite fee but glad I didn’t b/c it only took a few weeks. We’ll probably get my husband’s before the rate hike goes into effect. Not surprised though, the price of everything’s going up!
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KJ
March 29th, 2010
2:02 pm
LOL @ complaining about an extra $30 or whatever, when it costs at LEAST $1K to go on most trips that require a passport. I mean, come on.
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dkephoto.com
March 29th, 2010
2:12 pm
A passport is pretty much essential for me, since my inlaws live in another country.
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G C
March 29th, 2010
2:50 pm
I renewed last year and paid expedite fee. Sent application in on Thursday, had new passport back in Monday. Doesn’t get much more efficient than that.
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Elaine
March 29th, 2010
3:59 pm
I went to Passport Day last Saturday morning, but they do not take applications to RENEW existing passport. They told me I have to mail it in. I wish I had known this before waking up early Saturday morning and wasting my time standing in line.
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clunker
March 30th, 2010
8:09 pm
The Georgia coast is rich with memories and traditions for the wealthy,the average,and the poor.
When you erase that and try to sell a fantasy as the Sea Island Co. did, you get what they got: failure.
If I am going to drop 1k-2k for a weekend of “Generica”, I’ll go to Vegas, Watercolor, Fl. or Amelia Is.
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Regina Wheeler
March 31st, 2010
8:46 am
Another great festival near Barnsley Gardens is coming up April 17-18, 2010. It’s the new Antiques & Arts in Adairsville festival on the Historic Adairsville Public Square. Admission is free. In addition to numerous antiques dealers and fine arts booths, there will be activities for children and an appraisal fair from 2-5 p.m. on Saturday. The festival is open 9 am-6 pm both days. See http://www.AdairsvilleInApril.com for more details.
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Resident
April 2nd, 2010
12:11 pm
Is anyone else having trouble getting their membership dues refunded? We put our long-time membership on hold with the promise that it would be refunded and we haven’t seen a dime. Was told that they are refunding on a “lottery system.” Anyone else having trouble?
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GA
April 3rd, 2010
10:55 pm
I got mine almost a year ago and it took 21 days. I went to Crown Rd PO where they process them 10am – 10pm.
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Justine
April 4th, 2010
3:48 am
It is sad most US citizens do not travel. In the rest of the world people are always traveling between countries. I think this is what helps the rest of the world to understand they are not the only people in the world.
I handled all of my passport renewal application at the Crown Road post office and I have to say this is one area where the post office shined. I was going out of the country on business and realized my passport would be expiring during the trip. I picked up an application and filled it out at home. (This saves a lot of time for you and the people behind you.) I arrived at the post office had my picture taken and paid the fees. I paid the extra fees for expedited service. That was on a Thursday. Wednesday of the next week I had my passport. No joke. I was shocked.
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Keith
April 7th, 2010
3:22 pm
If you look at the proposal, the rigs will be over the horizon and out of sight in deep water. This article is hogwash.
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Courtney
April 7th, 2010
4:04 pm
If something were to spill it would cost this country Trillions in lost revenue and aid. Worst disaster in our country’s history by far. So we must be careful and not take short cuts. We certainly do want to become Venezuela.
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J.B.
April 7th, 2010
4:19 pm
Oil tankers are just as likely to spill, and they go all the way to shore to unload. Why doesn’t anyone argue they spoil tourism?
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Mike
April 7th, 2010
9:45 pm
One need only look at Port Arthur Texas or Galveston Texas to see how much “ugly” offshore oil and all that comes with it adds to the coastal scenery.
However, we need the oil & gas, so each state should have to sacrifice a share of their coast – and Texas should get to preserve some of its coast.
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Fred
April 8th, 2010
2:39 am
The benefits of increased offshore oil production in the US far, far outweigh the negatives. One of the most accurate statements in this article was where it was mentioned that the issue, at this point, is one that comes down mainly to perception.
Opponents see only the real and imagined ills of offshore oil production
and completely ignore any possible benefits. Clearly that is not a logical stance.
And finally, tourists are not going to flee from any beach resort areas unless or until there actually is a major oil spill. As has been pointed out in comments here and elsewhere, that is far more likely to happen from the shipping of oil, which is already taking place today in all of these areas and with great frequency, rather than from offshore drilling or production. But because this is an issue all about perception and not about reality, no one complains about or protests against that. Out of sight, out of mind. And that will also apply with the offshore rigs that will be located out beyond the visible horizon and never seen from shore.
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April 12th, 2010
11:00 am
My family just got home from a sort of mini break ’cause I’ve got some unfinished work left on my office table. Whenever we go out I make sure that all of us enjoy the time and each others company, since we don’t get a lot of holidays, we pretty much make sure it’s worth it. We came from Juniper Springs resort where they have this amazing view and mountain experience that we won’t forget. The place was clean and well organized. Complete from pools and hot tubs to biking and skiing amenities. Temperature was very comfortable, added up with the home-away-from-home aura. Our family did feel that serene ambiance we were looking forward to this holiday. We plan on getting the same trip for next year–only now we plan to stay there for a week!
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April 20th, 2010
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April 21st, 2010
10:00 am
Iceland Volcano’s particles arrived in other countries as well. I have read on Project Weight Loss that right now only the weather could help clear the sky from volcanic ash. A good rain could disperse the cloud. No one knows how long the volcano may remain active. In 1821 Eyjafjallokull erupted for 13 months.
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April 21st, 2010
5:27 pm
This is so sad! I want to travel to the UK from 1 – 20 May, destination London…would that be possible?
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April 22nd, 2010
4:54 pm
I just need to make a correction on something listed on the Louisville Tips article. I live in Louisville, KY. Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom is no longer open. The lease was rejected back in February and the decision was made not to open the park.
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Joshua
April 23rd, 2010
12:18 pm
The environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig sinking into the Gulf of Mexico will be felt for years to come.
As it sunk, the rig began spilling tens of thousands of gallons of oil into the water per hour. Nearly a half-million gallons have already spilled and the toll could be worse than that of the Valdez accident.
Fears are that oil from the well on the sea floor will begin making its way to the surface. Just 41 miles from the coast, the rig is situated so that this incident has brought a lot of business to a halt on the seas, and for those who depend on the Gulf along the shores.
And clearly, the impact of sea life in the Gulf is immediate and could be felt for years. Those waters serve as home to numerous fish species and shellfish like shrimp, mussels and oysters we find at markets. Not only is it next to impossible to farm these animals under such conditions, the water quality is sure to be jeopardized by the massive oil spill.
Please read this site for more information on the environmental and economic damages this explosion, fire and spill have caused: http://www.oil-rig-explosions.com/
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May 3rd, 2010
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scott
May 5th, 2010
5:59 pm
CHARLESTON ,,IS ABSOLUTLY FANTASTC!!!BEACHS,CONCERTS,BIG CITY EVENTS WITHOUT THE HASSLES!!DID I SAY BEAUTIFUL BEACHES??
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Vance
May 5th, 2010
7:43 pm
Charleston is Great! I love walking Downtown and on the Beaches. The Food is excellent, the shopping 1st rate. Prob. the best weekend getaway from Atlanta that you can drive to.
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Traveler
May 6th, 2010
4:10 pm
Charleston, Savannah & St Augustine are great long weekend getaways from metro Atlanta. Another gem is Fernandina and Amelia Island, north of Jacksonville.
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Susan R
May 12th, 2010
8:36 am
My family lives in VA about 90 minutes from VA Beach. We have already paid for a beachfront condo on Manasota Key (Englewood, FL area) for early August. If the spill continues for 3 or 4 more months, I would not be surprised if there is impact to the beach there. We have not made any changes and still plan to stay there; fortunately, we have other acitivities planned besides sitting or swimming on the beach – visiting friends and relatives, going inland to some parks and historical sites, etc. Things can happen on any trip, which is why trip insurance was invented (though oddly enough insurance is useless for an oil spill). When we first made our plans, we were more concerned about the timing of our trip and hurricane season. However, this is the only time of year as a family we have available to make the trip together. As long as the weather holds and the area is open, we will be down there. Also if any cleanup is going on the beach while we are down there, we will volunteer to help in whatever capacity we have available. To look at it another way, here is an opportunity, too, to provide your family with good learning experience about the benefits and costs associated with drilling of oil off our shores – not as fun as meeting Mickey or Goofy – but more important to everyone’s future.
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Sarina Henderson
May 12th, 2010
8:38 am
I am planning a vacation at the end of June in Clearwater, Florida. I am very concerned that we will not be able to enjoy the beach when we get there due to the oil spill. I have no idea if it will be there at that time or not. It makes me want to pick another place to go as I havent made any deposits yet.
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Burgandy
May 12th, 2010
8:51 am
Every thing should be finished by June!!:)
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Bummed in STL
May 12th, 2010
9:19 am
We had a beautiful condo booked in Fort Morgan (Gulf Shores) but just canceled as the leading edge of the oil is arriving on shore int he form of tar balls. It is only going to get worse.
Too many other nice areas out there to chance it with AL…so off to Amelia Island, FL for us this year!
If they dont get this leak plugged ASAP, the entire Gulf is going to pay a very severe price.
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Brett
May 12th, 2010
10:03 am
If you want to try and avoid the oil spill, we love going to Cocoa Beach on the Atlantic side of Florida. Plus, it is really close to Orlando when we want to visit the theme parks.
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Gulf Shores Bound
May 12th, 2010
1:56 pm
Some day I would love for Gulf Shores to become my full time residence. It would take more than a oil spoil to run us away. We love the Gulf and just visted there over Spring Break. If I had the time…I would make another trip there NOW or even in a month from now. We love the beach and the kids could still enjoy the beach. They may not be able to get into the water…but they would enjoy a pool as well. There are so many other things that can be done in the area or surrounding areas.
If you have never been to the beach and are looking forward to the experience…this might not be the right time to go. But for repeat visitors, you should not let this detour you from experiencing the coastal area. You might just find some other interesting things to do that you haven’t tried before.
For reservations, try Meyerre.com…we would not go anywhere else. They are still offering great deals and cancellations for the affected areas. Support the Gulf Area…keep your reservations.
We love you Gulf Shores, Alabama…Keeping you in our hearts and prayers.
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Milly
May 12th, 2010
3:01 pm
I hate the oil slick that forms each year from all the hair products used by the people at the Jersey Shore.
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COREY
May 12th, 2010
3:10 pm
I’m going to destin this saturday for a week with my entire family. Very few tar balls have washed up on the western alabama shores to start with and the slick is still hundreds of miles even from gulf shores! Some people are over reacting, today they said the slick will be moving west toward texas. They have no idea what it will do really. Since it’s still hundreds of miles from the florida panhandle, i will soak of some rays for you people! I look forward to having a great time with my family in destin! I refuse to let a spill still 3 states over from florida, ruin my plans! lol
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Mummer
May 12th, 2010
3:13 pm
If you cancel your vacation, the terrorists win!
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CC
May 12th, 2010
3:38 pm
In April, my family booked a 5 night stay at Sandestin in Destin. We are just waiting to see what happend. Our vacation is in mid-June and we can cancel up to 7 days before. We can always opt to go somewhere on the Atlantic coast, but I was really looking forward to going to Destin.
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CC
May 12th, 2010
3:38 pm
Sorry, we are waiting to see what happens in relation to the oil spill.
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YUKI
May 12th, 2010
3:42 pm
Going to Rosemary Beach at the end of June with no plans to cancel. If the beach is affected to the point that we cannot go in the water (which I doubt), then we will just enjoy the views, the pools and the area. It’s still a vacation with family and a time to relax. I would not cancel my planned vacation because of this.
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atlanta girl
May 12th, 2010
3:53 pm
I just saw a you-tube video of two southern guys that were using hay/straw to soak up oil – you should check it out! Just take a couple of hay bales with you when you go to the beach and you should be fine! I actually think it’s a great idea!
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May 12th, 2010
4:03 pm
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Vince
May 12th, 2010
4:10 pm
Last year I vowed not to vacation in Florida or Alabama as a result of those states’ lawsuits demanding we keep less than 1% of our water. I regret what the oil will do to all of the wildlife and the beautiful coasts, but I have no more regard for the people of those states than they do for Atlantans.
We have fallen in love with the beaches of South Carolina. I was always a diehard “gotta go to the Gulf” person, but I don’t want to go where I am held with such disdain by the natives. People should take this summer to give destinations in the Carolinas and Georgia a try. You’ll like what you find….and the natives don’t want to deprive you of your own water.
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Scott
May 12th, 2010
4:19 pm
According to BP and local officials in the gulf, all losses associated with the oil spill would be paid by BP as long as it is documented. From what I understand, that would any vacation losses due to the spill including lost deposits on canceled vacation homes or condos. The toll-free number for the Claims Line is +1-800-440-0858. The line is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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Michelle
May 12th, 2010
7:10 pm
Not sure what to do…vacation to Destin booked for the first week of August. The what if’s and when’s make it difficult to decide to stay or cancel? We have been going to Destin with our kids for 12 years…we go for the beach and Gulf…not the pool, activities inland or shopping. 95% of our time is at the beach…this oil spill is unbelievable, to do anything around our house the city has to approve everything…looks like our government doesn’t hold the same standards to BIG oil companies. Prayers to all the gulf coast residents.
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Jamie
May 12th, 2010
10:06 pm
Those of you who think that the only trouble you will face is that you can’t go in the water are going to be sadly disappointed. It’s not just that the water and beaches will be contaminated — the air will be heavy with the smell of crude oil. That odor will permeate everything and will make you ill. You won’t even want to walk outside. I am devastated by this. The Gulf will take DECADES to recover. This is not some small problem.
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Dale
May 12th, 2010
10:11 pm
Did you ever stop and wondering where gas to drive you to Destin comes from Duh!! Yes the black, disgusting, inhuman, worthless Glob.
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null
May 12th, 2010
10:13 pm
Where are those “drill here, drill now, pay less” delusional idiots now?
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shellybean
May 12th, 2010
10:22 pm
Stay positive!!!!!! We have our vacation planned for July on the coast of Alabama and I do not want to cancel. Staying positive! Staying positive!
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Drock
May 12th, 2010
10:42 pm
Breaking a 9 year streak of Destin vacations due to poetntial of oil slick in the area. Been going to Destin off and on 20 years. Going to Amelia Island this time. Won’t be the same…
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BP folly
May 12th, 2010
11:27 pm
I have vacation property in the panhandle and of course am concerned about the loss of income. I depend on spring and summer rentals to cover a majority of expenses for the year.
Personal concerns aside, I am deeply worried about the economic and other tangible impacts on the environment. Help me understand why this great nation of ours is still oil-dependent. I understand the oil companies still foresee years of profits, but at what cost?
Before any more off-shore drilling is permitted, we should demand that these big corporations start spending money on a working infrastructure for safety and containment. This spill brought out into the open how up to this point it’s been and wink and a promise. C’mon – how can a non-profit organization we expected to police this massive activity. And while we’re on that subject, it’s a system ripe for fraud and under-the-table deals the way these permits are handed out like candy.
We have yet to see the full devestation caused by BPs folly.
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NoChickenLittle
May 13th, 2010
12:39 am
People, check with your lodging and believe what they say. I live near the Destin, FL area and the oil slick is at the Mississippi/Alabama state line and Mother Nature is using the winds to send the slick to the west and northwest. The weather and white sand beaches are still beautiful!!!!!
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Rudy
May 13th, 2010
12:42 am
We rented a beach house on Cape San Blas in July. This was through Pristine Rentals. They are telling us to come on and that there is nothing to worry about. NOTHING! Seriously? A family vacation to a place where there is nothing else to do but be at the beach. Yes, we are WORRIED!! We are driving 15-16 hours! With Children!! They are not allowing people to cancel without penalties and large ones at that! I am so confused with what to do and they will take so much money that another vacation will be impossible. I cannot believe they would treat people this way. Do I KNOW the beaches are going to be devastated? No, but feel very strongly that they will, sadly. Just the what if is enough to make a family want to try to schedule something else. I hope that all is well there and that this disaster is cleaned up and the environment is healed. They invited us to come on down and IF there is anything wrong we could volunteer to clean up the beaches. DID I say we are on a FAMILY vacation with 4 VERY young children? So confused and at a loss.
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christine
May 13th, 2010
4:52 am
We are Canadians that travel to Florida each year. We love the beaches, the great weather, and the wonderful hospitality that Floridians offer their tourists. Usually we vacation in the southern gulf coast, but this year we decided on one week in the panhandle and one week on the south coast. We were ready to book about 2 weeks ago, but decided to hold off due to the oil spill. What an environmental tragedy! Also, I can’t imagine the impact to the lives of so many Americans. We thought about planning a vacation elsewhere, but for our family visiting Florida each summer is the highlight of our summer. So at this point, we are waiting to see how things turn out. Our vacation is one thing, but I pray that BP is able to stop the flow as soon as possible before more damage is done to the environment and the millions of Americans whose lives are affected so directly by the oil spill. Hopefully we will see you in August!!!
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deane
May 13th, 2010
5:01 am
I own a condo in Gulf Shores and have been following this closely. I get daily updates from our management company and thus far the only complaints that I have heard have been weather related. The Gulf Shores chamber did report that they had found a couple tar balls but a couple tar balls on miles of beaches is certainly not worth cancelling a trip. There are webcams that you can look at on some of the sites that illustrate the fact that the beaches are still incredibly beautiful. Dont let the media scare you into changing your plans…do your own research & trust people that are actually down there. Media thrives on blowing things out of proportion. Happy travels.
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Obvious
May 13th, 2010
5:25 am
All speculation at this point…it’s a big ocean out there, why don’t you wait until something actually happens before changing any plans…
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Cape San Blas?
May 13th, 2010
6:21 am
Headed to Cape San Blas in late June. Have no idea if the beach there is in the danger zone. Hoping someone can reply with some info. THX.
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Vince
May 13th, 2010
9:58 am
Buyers beware! I do not suggest calling any person on the coast for updates unless they are a relative or personal friend. There were many times in the past I called down to check if there was an algae bloom that causes that thick green slime in the water every summer. Many times I was told, “No, the water is clear. Come on down!” Then upon arrival I would find the gulf unusable and a local would inevitably tell me something like, “It’s been like this for several weeks.”
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E Hill
May 13th, 2010
10:01 am
I’ve been going to Fort Walton Beach, Flordia for over 15 years and the thought of oil slicks on that beautiful ocean sickens me! We’ve always enjoyed the beautiful sand and water and even though we are only an hour from Galveston, we’d still drive the 10 hours just for the beauty of the Florida Panhandle. I still plan on keeping my July plans to Fort Walton, and just pray God, in His Amazing Grace, can help erase what we have done to His creation!
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kycpa
May 13th, 2010
11:10 am
We booked a condo at The Beach Club in Ft Morgan, AL for June 12 through Gulf Shores Vacation Rentals. They only plan on refunding our money if the beaches close. From I am reading, the chance of them closing the beaches are next to none. So, I would guess that folks will be walking around with Haz Mat suits on picking up tar balls but it should be safe for the kids in swimsuits??? I compare it to the Ohio River. Sure, the water’s open for swimming but do you really want to?? I don’t think so. I think the promises of refunds are pretty worthless. I will never book a vacation again where I have to pay in full 60 days up front by check. The rental agencies have our money so there is nothing for them to worry about. Live and learn.
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Pete S
May 13th, 2010
11:42 am
I would’t expect to get the whole truth from the rental agency or a condo owner! Oil WILL hit the beach, it is simply a matter of when. If BP does contain the leak in a matter of days, the entire Gulf will be a mess with oil. Imagine sitting on your beachfront patio with smelling salts to hide the raw crude stench. Nice!
We are bailing Gulf Shores for South Carolina. Friendly folks, nice beaches and no floating death.
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Emily W
May 13th, 2010
1:29 pm
I made reservations for a week stay at the San Destin Resort in Florida. I am very concerned about the beaches being nasty from the oil. Not to mention, I’m sure the wind will blow oily residue onto the balcony rails, etc.. I am not real thrilled with exposing my 2 year old daughter to it. I hope it doesn’t reach their coast by July!
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Diane
May 13th, 2010
8:50 pm
I’ve been planning for MONTHS to spend the summer (June and July) at the beach to recuperate from a terribly difficult year of teaching and recovery from a fall that ended in surgery. I’m heartbroken about the oil spill, but even more upset about the damage to the local wildlife. I’m still planning to go down there for the summer and would like to volunteer some of my vacation time to help. What do I need to do? (My husband, however, sees no reason to go since his greatest enjoyment is to spend mornings on the beach, watching the sun rise and basking in the unspoiled beauty.)
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sue ann
May 15th, 2010
7:54 pm
my family & i have planned our trip to panama city beach from may28-june6 everything has been per paid for we are super nervous about the oil,and are not getting any feed back when we contacted the restort what are we in for our girls live for are once a year trip to the water.
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carole
May 16th, 2010
5:46 pm
I called the Hilton Sandestin in Destin today and because of the possibility of oil, they gave up a 24 hour cancellation time with no penalties.
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May 17th, 2010
2:53 pm
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Chris
May 17th, 2010
11:59 pm
I live near Destin (having moved from Atlanta last year), and there’s no sign of any change in the water (or air) thus far. I would suggest holding off on any cancellations as long as possible prior to your planned trip, & if the coast is still clear (so to speak), come on down. It may affect this area, but I think the consensus is that whatever we get (in the FL Panhandle) will be indirect, & will have been weathered (or “processed”) by the Gulf into tar balls or something less threatening than what we think of as oil. I don’t want to minimize it, but just don’t think in the end it will be as impactful to this area as people generally seem to think. My 2 cents, anyway.
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May 19th, 2010
2:08 pm
I have offices in both Mexico Beach and Cape San Blas, FL and have monitored the situation in the gulf very closely everyday since the Deepwater Horizon explosion. No one can promise or fully predict what may happen today, tomorrow or a month from now. For those of us on the Gulf Coast, we have to go on as business-and pleasure-as usual because for right now that is exactly what it is. As time goes by, the situation does seem to look up for those of us in the Panhandle. Certainly you can understand that money can not be given back today for a vacation that is supposed to take place 2 months from now. The media has created a hysteria and if listened to I can understand why most believe there is thick oil dripping off wildlife along the shores of Lousiana down through Florida. However, this is not the case. If you do have a trip planned to visit Northwest Florida, I would hope that you stick with those plans until there is a definite reason not to. Please listen to the people in the area and what they have to say about conditions. They are not going to promise you something that you are going to find to be untrue once you get there. It is no different than the risk you run in traveling during hurricane season. If the beaches are evacuated, or in this case closed due to oil, you will get your money back. But probably not until then. That’s going to hold true with any company you speak with on Cape San Blas, Mexico Beach or anywhere else for that matter.
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doniesia
May 20th, 2010
12:09 pm
i will pop here in here mouth
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Tannenbaum Resort
May 22nd, 2010
11:36 am
Although I am disappointed for the environmental and economical impact that this will have on the Gulf Coast, I am seeing a surge in our business which is a residential resort on Greers Ferry Lake, AR. Maybe this will help the economy in summer of the smaller, but just as beautiful states.
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y
May 26th, 2010
3:44 pm
I knew there woul’d be change!!!!!!!!
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y
May 26th, 2010
3:53 pm
One more thing.Y are people still buying gas from BP.Figure it out people.Screw BP.
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shortbravesfan
May 27th, 2010
3:45 pm
I feel bad for the poor animals and plants =(. Hope the oil goes away as soon as possible.
Just staying home for vacation. Saving money and hangin with friends and family.
In July I’m going on a road trip to San Diego. I’ll be nice and far away from oily beaches!
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Angeline
June 2nd, 2010
10:15 pm
This was the worst customer service + flight experience that I have ever had. I had a UA 6334 flight to Philadelphia through Chicago. Since the flight was delayed, my first flight from Des Moines to Chicago was changed to “AMERICAN AIRLINES” that arrived @ Chicago, a few minutes earlier than the initial flight to give me a better chance of not missing my connecting flight to Philadelphia. But the American Airlines was canceled and the rude person at the gate desk there didn’t even bother to attend to concern of being rescheduling through the initial flight that was delayed (ie UA 6334) as I knew for sure that flight was available within a few minutes. When she finally took her own time to attend to me, she simply said that she cant do anything as UA was my primary carrier and I had to go to them. She wouldn’t even guide me with the gate or where i had to go!
Finally on reaching the UA gate, I met the meanest lady ever who wouldn’t even listen to me and kept me waiting in the line until the long queue of another flight was over and my Flight took off without me! She was irresponsible, rude and least bothered about helping me out and was like “the only thing I can do for you is reschedule you to a flight next day”. She spoke as if she was doing me a favor by even doing that and said that “i was American Airline’s responsibility! While the other mean lady at American lady told that “you are United Airlines’ responsibility”. So finally my trip was delayed by a day. I was left stranded at the airport that night! She didn’t even help me with my compensation/stay for that night. I ended up paying double for that trip by paying for my overnight stay+cab to and fro to airport twice and facing mean, lazy irresponsible customer service agents tossing off their responsibilities and losing a day off my vacation! And when I asked her if I could speak to someone, she was like if you have a problem, go online and say what you want! How mean!
At the end of the day ,
I lost money in hundreds!
I lost a whole day off my 3 day long weekend trip!
Was left stranded and frustrated alone in the airport!
PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM “UNITED AIRLINES’ as well as “AMERICAN AIRLINES” if you want to have a peaceful, safe trip with responsible, profession customer service!
On a good note, on my way back I traveled by Delta Airlines flight which also got delayed/canceled due to mechanical problem) But the professional and responsible people at the Philadelphia Delta gates booked me on to 3 different flight with the option of getting me out there at the earliest possible and also gave me a $100 voucher for the inconvenience caused!
Now that’s the difference between responsible & reckless!
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Ted Striker
June 3rd, 2010
1:06 pm
1) I’m opposed to a total ban.
2) If someone had a severe allergy, certainly I’d refrain from consuming nuts around them.
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Bill C.
June 3rd, 2010
1:07 pm
My wife, now age 70, first came to Sea Island at age 5; her parents had come several times before she was born, as did her grandfather (by invitation I understand). Her family always rented “cottages”. Her family’s tradition became ours as well. Renting an older (read smaller and less expensive) SI cottage for two weeks each June became our (almost) every-year vacation plan until our youngest was through college. We had a gap of 20 years thereafter. Of course, we have MANY pictures and warm memories….
We loved Mr. Everett’s Wednesday-night lectures about the history of the Golden Isles. Bingo was a big (and inexpensive) evening out. It started be getting a reservation in the clubroom and being recognized by Vance, the headwaiter, to get a good table in the clubroom near the dance floor. Mr. Everett’s tongue-in-cheek wit while calling bingo made it good fun. That was followed by dancing to the Sea Island Orchestra, followed by graham crackers and milk off the Cloister lobby near the ever-present jigsaw-puzzle-in-progress. The package made winning at bingo irrelevant; it was a fun family evening!
The kids got dancing lessons at an early age (included with the $40/week/cottage Club Membership). They loved horseback riding (Amy, we miss you!). Percy taught them all to swim. Our son became an excellent skeet shooter under the tutelage of Fred Missledine. And, of course, they learned our household Ledger number so they could charge stuff at the Beach Club snack bar, where Big George held forth.
We spent hours on the beach, riding the waves, reading, sailing Hobie Cats, and (toward sunset) enjoying a drink or two in our beach chairs. (One evening, Jimmy and Roselyn Carter strolled by and said “hey”.)
When adults wanted a night out, we could depend upon Mrs. Forbes, the chief Sea Island telephone operator, to line up sitters, then go to the Georgian Room at an OK price, or else off-island. And the whole family looked forward to the Beach Club luncheon buffets and Sunday night buffets at the Cloister. Since Cloister guests were on the American Plan, these venues were bustling! I could go on..
For the past three years, we have rented a SI cottage for a week because it is a place with so many good memories and our children are willing to travel long distances to get together; we now live at great distances from each other. SI has a safe, wide beach with swimmable water temperatures and some amenities that we still use. As a matter of fact, I am sitting in 1950’s-era Cottage writing these notes. All of our children and grandchildren are here under one roof, and it is still one of the best places we can envision for a family “reunion” vacation. But the Sea Island Company, in reaching for 20 stars, has lost its soul.
Of course, all of the old-timers have retire, left, or died. More than one was forced out by the new management team, of course. The new team is polite, but for us, distant.
The beach club is bigger, and the multiple pools are nice. (Of course, diving has been eliminated for liability reasons.) The condos looming behind the beach club are an architectural travesty; hello, Marco Island!
I used to go into the Cloister (it could now double as a huge mausoleum) daily to get newspapers at the shop just off the main lobby. No more; go to the Beach Club.
Horseback riding is now limited to walking only; someone must have gotten injured cantering along the way. Goodbye, horses!
We have always prepared most of our meals at home, and we do so more than ever, since reasonably priced alternatives on Cloister property seem nonexistent. No more buffets (too wasteful). The River Bar has some life in it, I’m told, but otherwise, Cloister restaurants (those that remain open, that is) do very little business.
Bingo has someone who can call numbers accurately, period, its venue is totally devoid of charm. We didn’t bother to sign up after year one.
Children’s activities are available — all at high prices. Dancing, either for children or adults, is not offered. Goodbye, line dances; goodbye, ballroom dancing. Goodbye, lectures about the area.
So when we come here these days, we have a sense of loss and anger toward the misdirection of current management. Even so, we always always appreciate some of the amenities and the natural beauty and exquisite landscaping, not only of the hotel areas, but of the cottages as well.
I agree with some of the other bloggers who look forward to a less “exclusive” resort. It is essential that locals and visitors be welcome again!
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tom
June 3rd, 2010
1:07 pm
Hell yes, get rid of them. Free bags of peanuts are a joke and insult.
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Dr. Rumack
June 3rd, 2010
1:08 pm
I agree with Ted. That’s why I always have the lasagna.
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P F
June 3rd, 2010
1:20 pm
No nuts? Really? Like it would really be missed. There are what, 7 or 8 in a little bag? For the prices these days to fly and other nickle and dime charges they throw at us, we should be getting a bag the same size as they sell at Turner Field for FREE! As for those allergic, don’t buffer, isolate them like they use to do with smokers. Call it the “No Adro Zone”.
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Go ahead - Flyer beware
June 3rd, 2010
1:26 pm
Heck no. If someone is allergic then don’t fly. If they fly then they take the risk that someone will be eating peanuts. Should we ban them from restaurants too? We might as well outlaw ALL public food serving eateries for those few poor souls that need the gubbament to ‘do something’ about all those evil peanuts and those evil people that eat them.
If the airlines ban serving them then I will bring my own. If they try to take them from me they can eat crow while I sue them into oblivion. Stupid people, stupid country, going to he11 faster than you can say ‘It must be Bush’s fault’.
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Christine
June 3rd, 2010
1:26 pm
This is stupid! If you have a peanut allergy DON’T EAT THE PEANUTS! Don’t ban them!
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Kendale
June 3rd, 2010
1:29 pm
If it could mean even saving only one life, then I say ban the peanuts.
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Not Going To Use My Usual Name
June 3rd, 2010
1:29 pm
Christine, you may not realize, but some allergies are severe enough that even coming into *contact* with peanuts can be life-threatening.
That said, I’ve never heard of anyone with a peanut allergy dying from peanut-contact on an airplane.
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Lori
June 3rd, 2010
1:30 pm
I have a peanut allergy, but I certainly wouldn’t force a ban, I just don’t eat them. However, there are people who are so allergic that they can die if they smell peanuts, or if they inhale tiny particles that blow around when you rip open the bag. Why should those people not be able to fly?? But anyone with that severe an allergy, they aren’t going to be able to eat any of the snacks onboard. Read the labels, even the little cookies they give out to people (like me when I ask, stating my allergy), the labels say “may contain traces of peanuts”!! Good thing my allergy isn’t that severe or they’d have killed me by now.
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Caren
June 3rd, 2010
1:31 pm
Some people can become very sick from the smell of peanuts when they become airborne. Should we allow cigerettes too… if you think they will give you cancer DON’T SMOKE THE CIGERETTES!
Don’t ban them! Oh second hand smoke causes cancer too?
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Carol Veach
June 3rd, 2010
1:33 pm
I would have to support the ban since I was allergic to them at one time. It can be very serious for someone with a severe peanut allergy as they can die relatively quickly from an unexpected reaction. Carrying an Epipen doesn’t always help if you are incapacitated and there isn’t a medical person that can administer a dose. It seems like the airlines could have snacks other than the cheapest ones anyway!
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luangtom
June 3rd, 2010
1:34 pm
This is going a bit too far and too PC. If one is allergic to something, one knows. If you are going to eliminate peanuts in the name of safety, how about making it illegal for passengers to wear over-bearing perfumes and colognes? Some people have an allergic reaction to these smells as well.
When is it going to end?
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FreqFlyer
June 3rd, 2010
1:38 pm
I’m allergic to small seats with no leg room. I’m also very, very allergic to cancelled or delayed flights, bag fees, lost luggage, and rude flight attendants. I’ll give up my peanuts if they’ll solve my “allergies”.
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Dan
June 3rd, 2010
1:38 pm
In America, about 100 people per year die from peanut allergies. People eat peanuts and can leave traces on a plane enough to kill.
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Mr T
June 3rd, 2010
1:43 pm
If you are so alergic to peanuts that you will die by smelling them, you should be in a clean room and not flying anyway. Ever walked by a food court and died? The risk is simply overstated to pacify someone who doesn’t get enough attention at home. Ban the peanuts and I’m happy to bring my own. Big can and pass them around. Can I use the microwave on the aircraft and do my own popcorn?
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Garth
June 3rd, 2010
1:44 pm
Plum ridiculous. I guess these folks don’t ever go to major league baseball games. They don’t peanuts there, and god, I hope they never will. This is just one more sign of the decline in air travel. This
country had a chance to be really great with train travel, but we threw that away like other good things. We’re a third world country with a
third world president.
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BG
June 3rd, 2010
1:45 pm
I’m allergic to a federal government that spends thousands of dollars on such non-sense.
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MARTA rider
June 3rd, 2010
1:46 pm
Ever ridden a MARTA bus or train?
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Mike
June 3rd, 2010
1:51 pm
Most folks who have peanut allergies already know and won’t eat the peanuts. So, this is just more government nonsense from the people who have made being absurd their professional goal.
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teri
June 3rd, 2010
1:54 pm
totally support a ban on nuts on the plane. if someone with a food allergy DOES have a reaction on the plane, it will be a lot more time consuming and frustrating for those passengers who do not have the allergy when the plane is forced to land at the nearest airport. save the peanut eating for the airport.
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John
June 3rd, 2010
1:56 pm
That is ridiculous. We shouldn’t have to cater to people who have some imagined allergy to a food to the point they cant’t sit near them. The smell of alcoholic beverages makes me sick to the point I don’t like to be around them. Should we ban alcohol on flights? I also get sick just smelling the clothing of someone who has smoked a cigar. Should we force them to strip down and shower before boarding? If you can’t take sitting near peanuts, you should stay home.
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teri
June 3rd, 2010
1:58 pm
WOW! one more comment on the insensitive comments – ever have a loved one be in danger because someone had to eat a peanut? really? really? peanuts over a life??? and we are not asking that someone gives peanuts up forever – just the 2 HOURS THEY ARE ON THE PLANE!!!! WOW! Brutal!
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GreatGal
June 3rd, 2010
2:07 pm
In my opinion, this is just another way to trim the budget. Next, it’ll be no water…
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Nutter Butter
June 3rd, 2010
2:11 pm
Who are these people who die if they even smell peanuts? Are there actual proven cases of this?
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Almond
June 3rd, 2010
2:18 pm
Go ahead – Flyer beware…..you are an selfish idiot. I hope you choke on your peanuts.
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Larry Jones
June 3rd, 2010
2:19 pm
I’d prefer a ban on fat people.
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Darwin
June 3rd, 2010
2:20 pm
If smelling a peanut will kill you then nature is trying to tell you something.
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Sally Says: "Safety First!"
June 3rd, 2010
2:21 pm
Is “peanut” a new code word for a certain group who doesn’t know how to use their “inside voices” on a plane, talk loudly while the movie is playing in theaters, collectively blame their own mistakes on others and back into parking spaces at the airport very poorly?
If so, my husband and I are wholeheartedly in support of the ban.
I sure could go for some “peanut” butter right about now.
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Angela
June 3rd, 2010
2:27 pm
what ever happened to natural selection?
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terry
June 3rd, 2010
2:32 pm
You idiots are the most insensitive people in the country. Only the southeast would have people that don’t recognize that peanut allergies are actually fatal for small children. Kids with peanut allergies can actually die without eating any of them. If peanut oil residue was rubbed on a seat or on a magazine that they picked up, that could be fatal. It is a no-brainer to ban peanuts on airplanes and most public school systems (outside of the southeast) already have banned peanuts in their cafeterias. And Angela, I’m sure if this was YOUR CHILD with the allergy, you wouldn’t be such a dumba$! about this issue.
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dwayne
June 3rd, 2010
2:33 pm
let it roll!!! I love the free peanuts
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king of mean
June 3rd, 2010
2:34 pm
but, what about the children??!!
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Kat
June 3rd, 2010
2:38 pm
I would suggest that the airlines offer a non-peanut tainted snack instead of the peanuts. Give out pretzels to everyone instead of peanuts! Then, when the gluten-free people complain…
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andrew74
June 3rd, 2010
2:39 pm
You’re right. This is typical Atlanta. Selfish people and totally unaware of important issues that the rest of the country has educated themselves about. Amazing that some adults actually aren’t aware that peanut allergies kill children (frequently). Unfortunately, one day something will happen to someone you love and then you’ll understand. Until then, stay in the dark Atlanta.
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Usmc Dawg
June 3rd, 2010
2:39 pm
RIDICULOUS!
This is another example of the “Liberal Narcissism” in our country.
It is tearing away at the “fabric” of our great nation.
People, get over yourselves!
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BobDog
June 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm
I’m tired of reading all of the news stories about people dieing left and right from other airplane passengers eating peanuts. Wait. I have never read about someone dieing because another passenger ate peanuts.
In fact, when is the last time that there has been a report of ANYONE, ANYWHERE dieing from a peanut allergy????
Ban milk products. Ban wheat products. People have allergies to those, too.
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ndnbear
June 3rd, 2010
2:41 pm
It is a servere allergy and being that the bags are almost meaningless, stop giving them out. I usually bring my own snacks anyway – and that is were there will be a regulation problem. Of course, I am sure the airlines will ban all customer food and require purchase of any snacks so they can make another buck. Can we add a section for people who wear too much perfume!?!
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andrew74
June 3rd, 2010
2:44 pm
Dear BobDog- My child has a peanut allergy. When he comes into contact with peanuts, his throat continues to swell and he gets hives on his face and neck and his throat would swell completely shut and he would die unless I gave him an Epipen injection. Do some research on this issue. You’re clearly uneducated about this.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
2:45 pm
Why is AJC banning comments from people who support the ban? I’ve had several posts removed and several that were never posted. Moderator- Stop your BS.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
2:48 pm
BobDog- Kids die everyday from peanut allergies. You’re just uneducated about this issue. My son has this allergy and I have to take an Epipen everywhere we go. When he comes into contact with peanuts, his throat swells and he would eventually not be able to breath unless I gave him the Epipen injection. Additionally, the Epipen injections do permanent damage to his heart EVERY single time he receives it. You and the other people on this thread need to do research before spewing your stupidity.
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Horsetoothedjackass
June 3rd, 2010
2:49 pm
A completely unenforceable ban. What are they going to do, put peanuts on the list of prohibited items you cannot carry on and have the geniuses at the TSA try to enforce it? If they’re going to ban peanuts from flights, they better make sure that you can’t buy any from the shops at the airport so that folks won’t try to sneak them on a flight.
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Chuck Allison
June 3rd, 2010
2:56 pm
People allergic to peanuts and intelligent enough to buy an airline ticket should know not to eat them. So serve them as usual.
Or people allergic to peanuts can just ride AMTRAK.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
2:56 pm
Delta in the past has avoided serving peanuts to anyone on our row, the row ahead of us, and the row behind us. We have to call them in advance and request that this take place and they have always complied. Almost always, people complain to the stewardess and she has to explain to them what is going on. Its a little embarrasing for my son because he knows that he is “causing” an inconvenience for other people and he feels bad about it. Sometimes people make retarded comments similar to some of the stuff I’ve read on here along the lines of “Well he shouldn’t be flying on the plane….”
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H. Billy
June 3rd, 2010
2:57 pm
I shore do like me some goobers. I hope tha guvmint don’t jest outlaw ‘em all together, we’ll have ta grow ‘em in secret patches in the national forest.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
2:58 pm
Chuck- Obviously you didn’t read the earlier posts or else you’d know that kids can die without actually EATING the peanuts. Coming into contact with peanut shells or peanut oil residue can also be fatal. Again- Do 5 minutes of research before showing the rest of the world how ignorant Atlanta is.
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H. Billy
June 3rd, 2010
2:58 pm
Why yes, I did used ta write menus for Po’ Folks, how come you to ask?
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John Stossel
June 3rd, 2010
2:59 pm
Give me a break.
What airlines need is a management group that can run the business properly.
No meals on the plane, no blankets on the plane, no pillows on the plane, take away your leg room charge you for your luggage checked, charge you for your luggage carried on board, see if the flight attendants can get any pushier————- and now no peanuts———– the whole thing amounts to peanuts.
why not take a different approach
Treat your customer like you want to have them.
Fly on time
Maintain your planes.
if the flight is not profitable stop it.
if the flight is profitable promote it.
Treat your personel well so they want to treat your customers well
It is not that hard.
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Arby
June 3rd, 2010
3:00 pm
What the heck is going on? Should the government also ban individuals from carrying on packs of cheese crackers with peanut butter? How about peanut coated Payday candy bars. Have the left-wing butt-heads that ooze empathy from every pore taken over everything? And (@Kendale above)…wouldn’t it save just one life to ban air travel so that no plane would ever crash? What about the people that have gluten, chocolate, milk, allergies. Do we think that some food might accidently fly in their mouths during flight? GET A GRIP! Why am I responsible for making other people not eat something? It is time for a revolution against stupidity!
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Larry Jones
June 3rd, 2010
3:02 pm
Ban children with peanut allergies.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
3:03 pm
Arby- Again, thanks for showing everyone how stupid people in Atlanta are. Kids can die WITHOUT EATING the peanuts. Your peanuts could kill another child without them eating them. Also, the other allergies you mentioned aren’t even in the same ballpark as peanuts in terms of fatality odds and the level of protection that must be taken.
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Joy Johnston
June 3rd, 2010
3:04 pm
@peter19: Some of your comments were caught in the spam filter but they have now been released.
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
3:06 pm
Left wing nut jobs? I’m a conservative and I listed to Glenn Beck in the afternoons. The difference between you and me is that I actually have researched this issue and know what I’m talking about. Its really sad that everyone on this blog assumes that the only deaths occur when kids EAT the peanuts. Its idiocy like this that causes problems for people with this issue.
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Ralph Waldo Comerson
June 3rd, 2010
3:10 pm
Guess you never know what subject will hit the daily blog home run. Six pages (so far) regarding nuts on planes. Oh well I’ll bite, I say you keep the peanuts and also start serving 6 1/2 oz cokes in bottles to put them in. Stay tuned folks – next week we’ll talk about R.C.’s and moon pies at the tractor pull.
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stop the snack service
June 3rd, 2010
3:22 pm
maybe some of you could lose some freakin weight and stop spilling over into my seat!
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starlifter
June 3rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Can we ban stupid people?
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andrew
June 3rd, 2010
3:38 pm
I wish the peanut ban supporters would link to any news article about a specific incident where someone had a severe allergic reaction from being near someone eating peanuts. They only have anecdotal stories because it is not a real issue. I have done research and not on hysteria causing parenting websites.
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budman
June 3rd, 2010
3:39 pm
When will the TSA have the peanut scanners in place when the shoe sniffer inspection is going on?
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BEND OVER, here comes the CHANGE!
June 3rd, 2010
3:40 pm
What a JOKE. Mr. Peanut will NOT be happy!
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John
June 3rd, 2010
3:40 pm
Where do we draw the line in regards to allergies? This is a tricky one folks. I realize that some folks can have a reaction to just touching a peanut. But what do these folks when they are out and about? Do they ask restaurant patrons not to eat food that may contain peanuts? What about going to a sporting event?
Humm, I am not sure what is the proper way to handle this, but whatever is decided, there are those that won’t like the outcome.
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Van Jones
June 3rd, 2010
3:41 pm
I have a severe allergy to sitting next to a fat person. Ban them.
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Christina
June 3rd, 2010
3:42 pm
Some people have allergies bad enough to peanuts that if they touch a surface (such as the seat) and then touch their face or skin that can cause them to break out and initiate a reaction. People can be that sensitive to peanuts/peanut dander and we all know how well they clean the planes these days. Too many people are not mindful of others to respect how severe someones allergy can be. If their allergy is that bad most carry epi-pens but that only gives you 15 mins to get medical attention..guess all of you want an emergency landing to further delay your trip.
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Yankee
June 3rd, 2010
3:42 pm
I don’t completely understand the peanut allergy thing, and how serious it can be. But, I swear, some of the comments on this blog are completely ignorant and exhausting to read! Some people just seem to think the world revolves around them. They are so caught up in their own selfishness, they will say anything. Why are there comments about the President? Why are there comments about people’s weight? They should just make a flight for all the selfish —holes. (SA) flight for all the smokers, clogne/perfume dousers, peanut eaters, and overweight haters. Take your own flight!!!
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
3:43 pm
Great questions, John. Regarding sporting events, the Atlanta Braves sponsor a “peanut-free” baseball game every year. The park bans peanuts for this 1 night and cleans the seating areas the day of the game so that it is safe to bring children with this allergy to a baseball game. Several other minor league teams (Birmingham Barons and also the team in Mobile I think) do this as well.
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mcgin
June 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm
As a parent who has administered the epipen and wondered if my child was going to survive the anaphylaxis caused by breathing near another child who was eating peanuts, I would support the ban. We haven’t traveled on a plane since our child was diagnosed with a peanut allergy 6 years ago. It is scary and traumatic. I was unaware of the severity of peanut allergies until it happened to my child. I guess ignorance is bliss for those of you who have never experienced this. Peanut allergy is the most common cause of food-related deaths. You can check out peanut allergy and allergy and asthma foundation websites for the statistics. I hope you insensitive jerks never experience this with a family member. Due to you inability to believe, your family member would likely die.
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DMac
June 3rd, 2010
4:12 pm
Banning peanuts for everyone because of alergies of a few makes no sense at all. Besides I’ve never heard of someone so alergic that they couldn’t be in the same room with a peanut.
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mcgin
June 3rd, 2010
4:13 pm
http://www.allergy-details.com/nut-allergy/peanut-allergy-what-it//peanut-allergy-statistics/
“Of all the fatal allergic reactions, peanut allergies top the list. This actually amounts to about 100 people per year in the USA, which is 100 people too many, but hardly compares to the risk of driving, or being born for that matter.
Still, with roughly 150 fatalities related to allergies per year in the USA, the 100 related to a peanut allergy makes this particular allergy seem very dangerous.
More common are the less severe, but still alarming (or at least annoying) symptoms that many peanut allergy sufferers must endure should any peanut fragment cross their lips.
Certainly, the 15,0000 emergency room visits per year demonstrates that a peanut allergy is by no means trivial.”
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mcgin
June 3rd, 2010
4:14 pm
I had never heard of it either until it happened to my child.
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mcgin
June 3rd, 2010
4:16 pm
I tried to post links, but those posts are in cyberspace I guess.
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DMac
June 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm
Just because you have a child who has an alergy, doesn’t give you the right to dictate the lives of the rest of the world, or to call anyone a jerk because they don’t agree with you.
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JaiRS
June 3rd, 2010
4:18 pm
We have become a ridiculously soft society!! I agree with the post that say a delay for an allergic reaction will cost more than the meager benefit of having peanuts during a flight; however, if you have an allergy it is your responsibility to steer clear of the particular allergen. It is not the entire world’s responsibility to pad every corner and safety proof every inch of earth for you. There are few, less than 1%, deaths reported in adults by skin contact of a peanut. You have better chance of having a fatal reaction via skin contact with pollen (something we know a whole lot about in Atlanta). If your allergies are so extereme that you can not touch a surface that once had a peanut on it, then you don’t need to fly or you need to be on constant allergin blockers or something. There are a whole lot more things on a seat of an airplane to worry about than peanuts. Do you check to see whats on the counter or whats been on a table of a restaurant before you eat there…I bet you don’t!
After saying all of that, I will concede that airlines need to quit the snacks all together. We have become a greedy, obese society mainly because we can’t do anything without there being food involved. Does that little bag of snacks really sustain anyone or are you just as hungry and in search of food when you get off the plane? Buy or bring your own food if you just can’t wait!
Lastly, lets look into the future. If the general population lobbies hard enough to keep snacks and the allergic people lobby to ban the peanuts, someone at the airlines will come up with the bright idea of buying “all natural” or “organic” snacks which will cost them an additional 50 cents per case and cost us an additional 50 dollars per ticket.
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Christina
June 3rd, 2010
4:27 pm
DMAC- its not the being in the same room “plane” that is usually the problem. The problem is ususally that someone eats peanuts and wipes their hands on any surface. Someone with a severe food allergy can come behind and it they touch that same surface this can cause a reaction to start that can lead to anaphylaxis and death without immediate medical attention, (and talking within minutes, no longer than five). Airlines are not wiping/cleaning down planes between flights anymore. Not saying ban or no ban is right but being educated on what anaphylaxis is and how severe and numerous this peanut allergy is is the key.
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mcgin
June 3rd, 2010
4:29 pm
I am not dictating. As I stated, I have not flown with my child since diagnosis by my choice. The “jerks” comment was not toward rational comments, as yours were DMac. It was toward the people who insinuated that severe peanut allergies were lies. It had nothing to do with whether a ban on planes is right or not. However, you are correct and I should not have stated my opinion with that wording. That was a jerk thing for me to do based on the emotions involved with the memory of my child in the hospital after an allergic reaction to peanuts. I apologize.
I would support a ban, because I have an understanding of the reasoning behind it. However, I am not going to demand that it happen just so I can fly with my child.
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DMac
June 3rd, 2010
4:32 pm
If you, or your child, has that severe a reaction to peanuts (or anything else for that matter), then you should not fly or eat out. It’s not the rest of the world’s responsibility to conform to your wants or needs.
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DMac
June 3rd, 2010
4:35 pm
Kudos to you mcgin for rethinking your words and taking responsibility for them.
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Booger
June 3rd, 2010
4:50 pm
Just what we need, the US freakin government managing every aspect of our lives. I am surprised they let them serve bottled water, probably next.
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neal kelley
June 3rd, 2010
4:53 pm
that is dumb.. switch to almonds.. they are better for you anyway..
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
4:59 pm
DMAc- According to your logic, this too should be OK-
“My hobby is carrying around a loaded pistol and occasionally firing into crowds. If I hit someone, its their fault. They can’t dictate to me how I live my life or where I shoot my gun. Its perfectly fine for me to be selfish, not consider other’s needs, and live my life however I choose. If you can’t handle a bullet from my pistol, then you shouldn’t have been in the crowd!”
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Mark
June 3rd, 2010
5:18 pm
Support our Ga. peanut farmers. Continue passing out the peanuts. But we do need to accomadate a person that is allergic in a proper manner.
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mike
June 3rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Peter19 should be embarrassed for the ignorant comparison of firing a gun into a crowd with eating a peanut on a plane. You need to log off and give your peanut brain a rest.
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catlady
June 3rd, 2010
5:26 pm
We had a severely peanut-allergic child at school and they (nuts) were banned for all 630 kids!
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peter19
June 3rd, 2010
5:30 pm
Both actions result in death of an innocent bystander. Thats the point. Sometimes it takes a ridiculous comment to educate the morons that continue to pretend that this isn’t a real issue. And the morons continue to complain about their rights being taken away….We’re talking about eating peanuts on a plane. Is it asking too much for you to give that up, especially when considering the consequences?
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AllergicInMarietta
June 3rd, 2010
5:37 pm
I am allergic to peanuts and tree nuts. I also have a job where I travel a lot. Just having a “buffer zone” around me does no good- there is still peanut residue all over the seat, seat belt, and tray from the previous passengers. Just last week I had a bunch of crushed peanuts on my seat when I boarded. I had to use the throw-up bag to scrape them off!
Luckily, I’m not severely allergic (I would have to ingest at least 1/4 of a peanut), so by keeping my hands away from my face, not eating while on the plane, using lots of sanitizer, and washing my hands as soon as I’m back in the airport has kept me safe so far. But flying is still scary and I have to be vigilant.
I know some people will balk at having peanuts banned on planes. But I would tell them that if the situation was reversed, I’d be happy to do without peanuts during the flight if it meant they would be safer. A peanut allergy has deadly consequences. Is it that big of a deal to go without something for a few hours so that others can be safe?
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catlady
June 3rd, 2010
5:46 pm
Mark,what are the rules for being properly allergic? Would Emily Post or Miss Manners know?
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Barb
June 3rd, 2010
5:47 pm
If you are that allergic to peanuts, don’t fly. If airlines don’t serve them, I will certainly have peanut products carried on for myself and my kids. Get over yourself…I’m so sick of the “peanut allergy” crowd insisting that all peanut products will kill them….most folks are not that allergic or even have the allergy at all.
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catlady
June 3rd, 2010
5:48 pm
I mean, I would hate to rudely die of an allergy attack! Slip, heels, and gloves for me!
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Joy
June 3rd, 2010
5:49 pm
Anyone suffering from a life-threatening allergy should take responsibility for protecting him- or herself. Buy and wear a special allergen-filtering mask when flying or going into any environment where you might inhale that particular allergen. I need oxygen 24/7, but I don’t expect everyone to have it at my disposal – I carry it with me. It’s MY problem, not anyone else’s!
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mark
June 3rd, 2010
6:06 pm
Joy- I understand your position on this issue. You have every right to carry peanuts on the plane with you and rub them all over the seats. Thats your right. It also makes you a complete insensitive ahole. I hope for your sake that you and your insensitive kids don’t kill someone else’s children.
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mark
June 3rd, 2010
6:08 pm
And Barb- I didn’t realize there was a “peanut allergy” crowd. Did you learn to hate them on Glenn Beck or some other place? I mean, no one should infringe on your rights, right? You’re an insensitive uncaring, American ahole and other people’s lives aren’t your problem, right?
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John O
June 3rd, 2010
6:15 pm
Wouldn’t it be nicer to ban DOT officials from all flights?
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Norm
June 3rd, 2010
6:29 pm
I hate Pretzels, but enjoy peanuts.
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baatina
June 3rd, 2010
9:48 pm
What is going to stop someone from bringing their personal bag of peanuts or other products that may contain peanuts?
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Melissa
June 3rd, 2010
9:53 pm
Don’t judge unless you have the allergy. My son (4 1/2) is allergic to peanuts. We fly often, and he is not bothered being around peanuts (THANKFULLY!) – but he has a classmate who stopped breathing (because of his peanut allergy) from being in the same room with peanuts – this child cannot even go to a ball game. Some people are that sensitive. And to compare it to cigarettes… really? To smoke is a choice. To have a fatal food allergy is NOT a choice. Grow up people. And educate yourself on food allergies. You’d be surprised how many things contain “Traces” of peanuts, or are “made in a factory” with peanuts. Accidental inhalation of second-hand smoke may set off my asthma (yes, I, the mom have asthma), but it won’t kill me. The dust from those peanuts eaten on a plane can KILL a person with a severe allergy. Schools won’t ban peanuts, but if airlines see the danger and are willing to ban them for the safety of passengers, I’m all for it.
Like I said, don’t judge until you’ve head to live it. You have no idea.
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Matt
June 3rd, 2010
10:10 pm
To the people that say “dont fly then” im sure you enjoy your vacations and time away. Although not as common, my son is one of the few that is deadly allergic to peanuts, just the smallest particle of peanut dust can cause a serious reaction, or death. Does this mean my 5 year old should never see the world? Never fly to Disney? I know its not your problem, but dont you think you could go 5+ hours without peanuts to save a life? Im sure you do it daily…I would never wish this on anyone, but pretend it was your kid, its not easy for the parents either.. but we try to live our lives like other kids get to live. Im for the ban, although inconvenient, its only a few hours…
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Roger
June 3rd, 2010
11:17 pm
Get real. I carry my own peanuts, am I now to be searched and relieved of yet another object of “contraband” by government? This is ridiculous. So airlines don’t want to give anything away on flights anymore, but don’t be idiotic and support something as overboard as declaring peanuts on a common carrier illegal.
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Roger
June 3rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Try wearing a mask. Stop making your problems mine.
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JaiRS
June 4th, 2010
6:15 am
I have asthma. The severity of asthma ranks right up there with a pregnant woman in labor. A hospital, ambulance, police, have to treat me and bring me to a stabilized state NO MATTER WHAT. Peanut allergies are not given that same severity or protection.
Two words “adult responsibility”. How about people be responsible for themselves and their children and not force the rest of the world to bend their service. When I was a child my asthma was severe. I could not be near cigarette smoke or carpets made of a certain type of fiber (among other things). This was late 70’s early 80’s when shag carpet could still be found, and smoking was still permitted everywhere. If my mother ran into someone smoking, she moved me. She didn’t bother that person or lecture them on the horrible things his smoke was doing to her child, she took the RESPONSIBILITY as a parent and moved her child. If we went somewhere, office or home, that had carpet, she kept me in a chair or in her lap and did not allow me to go to the floor no matter how badly I wanted to play or what the others were doing. It was her RESPONSIBILITY as a parent to make the call for me, not to make everyone else change just because of me.
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jmb
June 4th, 2010
8:20 am
I continue to be shocked at the level of ignorance regarding peanut allergies both by those who have no familiarity with the subject and those who believe that their familiarity with what they believe is a related subject (e.g., asthma, food intolerance, other non-life threatening food allergies). A peanut allergy should not be compared to food intolerance or a food allergy that is not life threatening because a peanut allergy is life threatening. And while maybe 150 people die each year from a peanut allergy, that has far more to do with the extreme life altering steps taken to protect those (mostly children) who suffer from this condition than it does the seriousness of the threat.
This also has nothing to do with being PC though I understand it’s easier to throw that blanket statement out there than it is to educate yourself about the real issues associated with peanut allergies. Keep these FACTS in mind:
1) the number of individuals diagnosed with life threatening peanut allergies TRIPLED between 1997 and 2007;
2) there is neither a cure nor treatment for a peanut allergy – avoidance is all that can be done to assist those who have been diagnosed; and
3) an individual with a peanut allergy CAN DIE as a result of exposure (for some this means ingestion, for others inhalation is sufficient).
Take it from someone who was as ignorant as many of the rest of the posters on this board until his 2 year old daughter was diagnosed with a peanut allergy – educate yourself before you start spouting off and belittling the very real threat peanut allergies pose.
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JaiRS
June 4th, 2010
8:52 am
I’d just like to point out something in response to point #1 in jmb’s post
“1) the number of individuals diagnosed with life threatening peanut allergies TRIPLED between 1997 and 2007;”
Obesity more than tripled during that same time frame. (No I’m not saying all people with peanut allergies are obese. Let me clear that up before someone runs with it.) As a society we have beat down our immune systems to hell and back. We eat crap, crap, crap all day long. Feed this same crap to our children then wonder why they have sooooooooo many ailments that either all together did not exist 20 years ago or were extremely rare. When was the last time you saw a kid in a stroller with a carrot stick in his hand? When was the last time you saw a kid in a stroller with some unidentifiable red drink in a bottle? We don’t take in the nutrients, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, etc etc that our body needs to be truly health and combat all these allergies and we pass on our weak immune systems fetuses and our bad eating habits to toddlers and wonder why by the time they are 4 they have been diagnosed with 20+ allergies, ADHD, and a host or other symptoms, syndromes, and disorders.
Jmd, this is not what I think I know, this is what I have learned from doing my own reading of medical journals, nutrition guides, and a host of other literature and from speaking to nutitionist, dieticians, OBGYNs, cardiologists, and internists. Feel free to call up any doctor and verify.
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jmb
June 4th, 2010
8:56 am
JaiRS -
All very true. Not sure what that has to do with whether peanuts should be banned on airplanes though. Are you suggesting that because we as a nation are to blame for the prevalence of these allergies that we shouldn’t take the necessary steps to protect children diagnosed with them?
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CLane
June 4th, 2010
9:09 am
If you have a child with a severe peanut allergy (airborn allergy)you would have an understanding of the life threatening situation a child could be put in.Really do you need a bag of peanuts on a plane? The answer is NO
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Love Victorious
June 4th, 2010
9:39 am
Peanut allergy is among the most severe, and it generally persists into adulthood, along with shellfish allergies. Other allergies are less common in adulthood. This is not about crazy kids and parents. It is about a changing disease landscape that we do not yet fully understand. Just because you aren’t allergic now does not mean that you might not suffer an anaphylactic reaction later. The first reaction is always unexpected. It has come to the point that peanuts just do not belong in public places. They certainly do not belong in mid-air in a closed cabin flying over an ocean, where help could never be within reach.
Really, how hard is it for you critics to get off your ideological horses and just eat something else, to preserve someone’s life? A little civic-mindedness, here, please!
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Mary
June 4th, 2010
11:06 am
Yes. What is the big deal. A few hours without peanuts won’t harm anyone. There are lots of alternatives.
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Kelly
June 4th, 2010
12:19 pm
Justine- You do realize that the USA is larger than most of the countries that you are referring to, and we happened to have an ocean on either side of us… right? Other countries of the world can travel for two hours and be in another country. It would be like us traveling to another state, and I would bet that most Americans travel to other states as much or more than people in other countries travel trans-country.
I hear this argument all the time, and most of the time it is condesending toward Americans without the understanding that Americans aren’t simply staying home our of arrogance… it is just that we have to travel FAR to get out of the country. These other countries you refer to can spend $100 by train and be in another country… we simply can’t.
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JaiRS
June 4th, 2010
1:14 pm
Jmb – what I am suggesting is that adults with these allergies or responsible parents of children with these allergies 1. need to realize that they are a major cause of the problem (maybe not the entire cause), definitely not everyone else 2. accept that this is a situation you need to take charge of, not force the rest of the world to bend b/c of a small segment of the population and choices they have made that are now showing an impact on their life and the life of their offspring.
As a society we have taking political correctness and empathy way too far. No one has to have any accountability for anything, just make people feel sorry for them and get enough soccer moms and that one overly empathetic politician with no other thoughts in his head to scream loud enough and the whole nation and possibly the whole world will have to bend.
Its not that I just have to have peanuts at any given moment, its just the principle of the matter. What’s next? This is a waste of time, resources, and federal legislation if it gets that far.
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JaiRS
June 4th, 2010
1:21 pm
Cigarette smoke triggers life threathening asthma attaks in children and adults. Have you ever tried to get a die hard smoker to move just a few feet left so you could breathe? How many buildings have posted signs, “no smoking in this area”, but you still see smokers huddle around the doorway forcing people to walk through that cloud of crap. There’s your civic mindedness…out the window and up in smoke! Bottom line the whole world should not have to bend. You make the necessary accomidations for your particular ailment.
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Love Victorious
June 4th, 2010
2:06 pm
It’s not as simple as ingestion exposure. Other routes of exposure are created by other passengers’ consumption of peanuts in the cabin. Your rigid adherence to the anti-government principle of “don’t tell me what to do” could cost someone their life. Where is the satisfaction in that? Given your principle of unwavering unsympathy, you must also oppose being restricted from parking your car in a designated handicap spot? Look, why not just be kind and choose a different principle to adhere to – maybe the principle of compassion for the less fortunate among us? Please just eat something else.
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Pam Golden
June 4th, 2010
2:13 pm
No. I don’t support a total ban on peanuts on airplanes or anywhere else. First, why is government getting involved in this issue? Many travelers have allergies, everything from animals, which often are carried on planes, to scents, such as the cologne and perfume people wear. Are we going to legislate those?
We must pick our battles in this country. The extremely low percentage of people with a peanut allergy allows us to address the issue on a case-by-case basis, which airlines already are doing. The greater issue is obesity. Peanuts are packed with nutrition and have high satiety, which means a few go a long way toward making us feel full for a long time. When airlines take peanuts off planes, they replace them with less nutritious, less satisfying snacks.
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Love Victorious
June 4th, 2010
2:29 pm
Because it is the job of government to preserve equal access and to protect those with disabilities, including anaphylaxis. This is not an “allergy” like hay fever or sensitivity to perfume, and it’s not a long-term hazard like plastics and fattening food. It is an immediately life-threatening reaction. And the problem is growing. Be honest – those opponents among you wouldn’t miss the peanuts, you’d just miss the arguments on the message boards.
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JaiRS
June 4th, 2010
2:42 pm
Well stated Pam Golden!
None of us are saying we want to see someone die or that we just can’t live without peanuts on a plane. All we’re saying, as Pam stated, “We must pick our battles in this country”. The governement, with limited resources, has much more pressing issues to be involved in regarding planes then peanuts. Don’t force a full ban for a small percentage. If you have a special need, find an airline that already has policies in place to deal with that need or make contact with higher ups at the airlines who can make special accomidations, don’t force this on everyone else.
Misery looooooves company!
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robin
June 5th, 2010
7:50 am
I’m surprised that the airline liability policy even allows them to continue to serve nuts. 5% of the population (and growing) is allergic to nuts.
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M
June 5th, 2010
12:17 pm
I think they should ban farting on planes, which is much worse to me than peanuts.
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MomA
June 5th, 2010
5:37 pm
It is called the American Disability Act as for why there would be any government involvement. People who have such a severe life-threatening allergy that it causes anaphylaxis have a hidden disability. They are born with this condition that they cannot help and it is very REAL! Therefore, people with severe allergies have a right just as an other able bodied person to fly on a plane.
And as for the concerts, baseball games, movies, beaches, zoos, restaurants, etc. where one may encounter peanuts or tree nuts it is really not the same as flying. A plane can be 30,000 feet in the air with no possibility of getting to a hospital within the 15-20 minutes after an injection of epinephrine that is needed. A much different scenario than being somewhere where medical attention would be available.
Why is it so hard for airlines to give up a tiny bag of peanuts for the sake of the severe allergic people?
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Charles S Salmons
June 5th, 2010
10:48 pm
I am sick of the “mommy knows best nanny state” mentality.
If you are allergic DO NOT EAT IT. Leave me along to eat what I want.
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Anita
June 5th, 2010
11:21 pm
Too many people are allergic to peanuts and some might not even be aware of it. Therefore I think peanuts should be banned from flights. It is difficult to tell a passenger not to consume his/her peanuts because someone close to him/her is allergic , this would call for allowing passengers to change seats, etc. therefore a total ban is appropriate.
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Joel Dockery
June 6th, 2010
12:05 am
I am claustrophobic and don’t like strangers being really close to me. Is that a disability that requires the airline to disadvantage their paying customers? I’d like a buffer zone of at least 10 feet around me.
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vee
June 6th, 2010
12:49 am
geez, folks. lighten up. we’re not talking about someone who would “rather not have peanuts” or even someone who gets nauseated by the smell of peanuts. we’re talking about people who have severe, systemic, allergic reactions who lose the ability to breathe. didn’t believe it until i saw a child react this way when someone who ate peanut butter touched her. sure, if you’re that allergic YOU take the precautions, but why should THE REST OF US aggrivate the situation? give us pretzils instead.
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Capn Steve
June 6th, 2010
1:03 am
The allergists can wear fine particulate masks. Everyone else can eat nuts.
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buzz
June 6th, 2010
8:03 am
Get rid of them. I am allergic to peanuts, and even the smell makes me ill. They can pass out mini-pretzels instead.
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boohoo
June 6th, 2010
8:33 am
Perhaps you should ask Northwest airlines formerly Delta airlines, this ia a hostile takeover from a mgmt group that is horrible , cutthroat , dirty. I am sure they will be more than happy to give a complete statement given the computer in Minneaplois( Headquarters) provides them one. And yes you will pay for them. Nor/Delta and BP should merge seems they both are good at F#$%^ing things upppppppppp with complete apathy through the process.
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Hellbent
June 6th, 2010
8:52 am
People, get a grip! Peanut allergies are, in fact, real! Get over yourselves if you think they aren’t. Once you’ve had a child with a peanut allergy, maybe you’d understand. It’s not just just eating them that can kill them. Say you’ve eaten some peanuts in your cramped little chair on the airplane, then wiped your hands on the arm-rests or the seat. Someone with a peanut allergy sits in your seat and dies because they came into contact with the peanuts on the arm-rest or seat. Just being in close proximity to peanuts can cause a reaction…and there’s no closer proximity than being confined in the fuselage of an airliner! If you MUST get mad over something, then blame the FDA. They’re the ones who’ve caused this problem in the first place. No other country in the world has an issue with this, except the good ol’ US of A.
Telling these people (who’ve done absolutely nothing to you) that they can’t fly, shouldn’t fly or be “Quarantined” like a smoker is as crazy as saying maybe they just shouldn’t be allowed to breath during the flight. So you don’t get your little peanuts…..boo friggen hoo! Is that REALLY something you’re gonna get your panties in a twist over? “Well, I want my peanuts…I don’t care if someone else has to die for my right to eat them!”…..Nice attitude to have. Here’s thought….why don’t you stay home rather than inflict yourself on others?!! Some people just need to be beaten with a sock full of bar soap!
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Cheryl Williams
June 6th, 2010
8:52 am
Yes, ban them. If some of these people that are commenting had a 4 year old grandchild on that plane that had to have injection for just the smell of peanuts, maybe they would reconsider their stupid comments. When you live in Arizona and your family is in GA, you pretty much have to fly. And they should not have to be isolated and treated like smokers. Smokers have a choice, while people with peanut allergies don’t. I think we can all do without the 5 peanuts in a bag to possibly save a life!
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Boots
June 6th, 2010
8:52 am
I agree with those who went before. It won’t bother me since I always have the chicken.
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joanne
June 6th, 2010
9:00 am
no they should keep them at home ,there is no way that they can be protected say a person has a snickers in their bag and will eat that on a plane if a child is allergic the smell of the candy bar may give them a serious attack.
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The Cynical White Boy
June 6th, 2010
10:55 am
To those who simply say..”Well, don’t fly then…”
Well, I’ve been allergic to seafood all of my life. Sometimes, in restaurants (and grocery stores) I’ve learned to “breathe through my mouth”. But then, I have the choice of many, many grocery stores and restaurants to hang around in. There isn’t only once place to go and only one way to get there.
Having said that, I’ve been to the ER with my child, who has a SEVERE peanut allergy. We have to carry epi-pens with us everywhere, it’s so bad. She refuses to fly anywhere, anytime.
Here’s an idea….what if the airline marketed a “peanut free” flight? The marketplace would decide, as it always does in the end.
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The Cynical White Boy
June 6th, 2010
10:57 am
The airlines charge for everything now – nickel and dime and nickel and dime. How about a “peanut charge”? That will stop the consumption.
Then again, the airlines make the peanut packages so SMALL now, and the actual nuts are so SMALL, that the problem might simply go away due to airline cost cutting anyway.
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Chris
June 6th, 2010
10:59 am
Good grief. Just because the airlines would have to ban them, doesn’t mean they don’t exist in the world. What if Joe Smith from Plains Ga. in seat 27A brings his own bag? There are stores in the airport that sell them, want to ban them also? Should we blow up I-75 because it runs through peanut country in central Georgia?
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worddust
June 6th, 2010
3:12 pm
Not only should peanuts be banned on planes but peanuts and all related products using peanuts as ingrediants should be banned eveywhere. If it saves just one life it will be worth it, though I’m sure BIG FOOD will lobby to protect the Capitalist Pigs who profit from this deadly product.
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Scott Perry
June 6th, 2010
4:51 pm
Well, if you are going to do that, might as well ban wheat for those with wheat allergies. And milk. And shellfish. And everything else. My daughter’s school has banned peanut butter even though there are NO CHILDREN in the school allergic to it. The rampant stupidity of our society coupled with the greedy lawsuit people makes me sick. If you REALLY want to prevent deaths, stop riding in cars.
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Sandra
June 6th, 2010
5:45 pm
My youngest son (8) may have a tree nut allergy. It just came out of the blue one day two months ago and now we are taking him to an allergy clinic. We current live in the UK because my husband is English but all of my family live in Georgia. According to some of you my son should never be able to see his aunts, uncles, cousins and most importantly his Grandpa and Grandma ever again in his entire life just because he has an allergy. When both of my brothers come back from overseas and we get together as a family my son deserves to be there and welcome back his uncles along with the rest of the family.
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Stormdrane
June 6th, 2010
7:17 pm
There needs to be a ban on banning things, leave the peanuts alone.
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A.S.Mathew
June 7th, 2010
5:51 pm
Now the poor peanut is going to disappear from the starving passengers. Let every aircraft
may put a small vending machine with drinks and snaks, and charge $ 2.00/packet so that the
airlines can make more money. Anyway, flying business is for making money.
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ulli
June 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
“CANDLEWOOD SUITE” : Do not book this hotel, so you do not have to risk sleeping on the street. They accept your booking, but when you arrive at the hotel simply to give to the right in saying that there is no room for you. Plus, if the client did not appear to reserve the hotel, they still charge you, because they are with your credit card number at time of booking. “Candlewood suite” imposes responsibilities to customers, but disclaims any responsibility with the client. She does not respect the cliente. Do not go to this hotel.
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Oil in my tears
June 8th, 2010
8:34 am
I am planning a trip to Destin in 10 days…oil washing ashore as I write. I purchased trip insurance with a cancel for any reason clause, but at a price. I’m torn as to what I should do. I’m paying a high premium for a gulf front location and it’s our first time to this area. I don’t want to pay so much money for an oily view of the gulf and a beach I can not use. I’m going for the clear green waters and the white sand beaches…neither of which will be the same.
I am highly disappointed that the people I’m renting from have not called to ease our concerns or offer a discount in any way. If I cancel, she still gets her money. It’s the insurance company who will have to pay. Seems so unfair. No wonder she seems to care less. I will definately keep this in mind when renting in the future. No repeat customer with her. People renting condos and houses should show some care and concern for those renting from them if they want a good review and a repeat customer. It would certainly go a long way for me if I even heard from her proactively. Still undecided as to what to do…
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Donna Covington
June 8th, 2010
9:03 am
We are supposed to leave for Destin in 10 days also and still don’t know what to do. If the beaches just have a few small tarballs, I think it would be okay to go down but not sure what it’s going to do in the next 10 days. I read on some internet site that the winds are blowing westward right now which helps but who knows what it will do between now and the 18th. Not sure if we can get a full refund or not if we decide to cancel. We booked with a private condo owner through vrbo.com so not sure what he’s going to do. There’s no information about the oil spill at all on the condo’s internet site so not sure what they’re doing either. I feel for all the people who live in the Gulf and for the wildlife. It’s so sad.
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Eric Keaton
June 10th, 2010
8:27 am
Nice article…however, Saddlebrook Resort is in Wesley Chapel (Pasco County) FL. About 20-30 minutes north of Tampa.
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BehindEnemyLines
June 10th, 2010
6:48 pm
More absurdity from the gov’t, what a shock.
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KevininATL
June 10th, 2010
8:11 pm
Peanuts Suck!! Get real snacks on flights.
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garcia
June 10th, 2010
8:26 pm
People need to understand that a modern airplane is a unique environment. A great percentage of the air is recirculated. Additionally, nuts (peanuts, in particular) are highly aerosolized. That is why you can smell roasting peanuts from far away. The aerosolized peanut is actually a protein that is an allergen for over three million Americans. That means that a bag of peanuts can be opened on a typical flight and an allergic person sitting ten rows away will still begin to itch and possibly have some serious breathing problems. This is real, not theoretical.
If we have successfully banned smoking on flights, for fear of second hand smoke issues, why would we not ban peanuts?
If Delta wants to support the peanut industry in Georgia, they should serve peanuts to all customers waiting for their flights at airport gates. In that manner, Delta could establish a “down home” feel that can make its passengers feel more relaxed. By serving the peanuts in a larger environment, peanut-allergic passengers will be able to avoid exposure to the dangerous allergens. This is a public relations opportunity.
Why are Delta folk not coming up with such solutions? Are they really that dense and dull-witted? Come on Delta, join the modern world and comply. Don’t wait for a formal ban. Be proactive. This simple problem can be turned around into a PR advantage.
Yes, I support the ban. And, well-informed passengers should do the same.
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Jean
June 12th, 2010
7:47 pm
No, I’m not in favor of a ban nor in preventing passengers to bring peanuts or other nuts on board.
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Carl
June 13th, 2010
3:47 am
I feel bad for the people that are alergic to nuts, I feel worse that it got to the point that the Federal Government has to be involved. What’s next, when will it stop? I’d like to ban politicians that waste money and raise taxes so they can waste even more. It is getting to be a real joke.
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Winston Smith
June 13th, 2010
3:48 am
yes, the government loves us and protects us just like big brother would.
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Joe
June 13th, 2010
6:29 am
Don’t fly if you have peanut allergies. Free up the middle seats.
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Dana
June 13th, 2010
8:22 am
I understand that some people don’t have regard for the lives of others, but many of the people that have this allergy are CHILDREN!!!
They require us grown ups to protect them and this is what this is about. As a parent of a child with a life threatening PEANUT ALLERGY, I am all for this ban. Unless they can come up with a better idea, I don’t see any option. She doesn’t just get itchy eyes and a runny nose, she could DIE from the reaction. Peanuts are different than some because they are on people’s hands and they are touching the seats and doors, dropped on the floor. The dust can fly around and get into the lungs of an allergic person and then they would die before the plane landed. Is that what you would want on you conscience just so you can have a handful of peanuts?
We take safety measures, but can’t protect her from everything. It can be very limiting and difficult. BUT
We have a right to fly on planes just like everyone else- we have a right to safety, just like everyone else. Maybe there could be some airlines that are peanut free and we could choose to support them instead of others? If it were your child, you would do the same.
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This is Mrs. Norman Maine
June 13th, 2010
8:36 am
what, no peanuts on planes? Oh noooooo, what are we going to do? This is just more government intrusion into our lives, our freedoms are being taken away, blah, blah, blah……
Yea, it’s going to kill me if you take away my 7 peanuts and my half a cup of Coke.
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Ray Burns
June 13th, 2010
8:59 am
If they do then be sure and ban strawberries and bannans as the are just as deadly or more so. I don’t touch either one of those. Also the little yellow packets of sweetner as what ever is in bananas is in that. The pink packages of sweetner are safe.
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Linda Lou
June 13th, 2010
10:29 am
I have a shrimp allergy so I will gladly support banning any products that could possibly cause a allergy attack reaction to anyone. Getting all fired up over not having a free bag of peanuts or shrimp salad is beyond being self centered and selfish. Try to understand for any person with severe allergies the emotional fears they go through just flying in a plane that is serving peanuts.To many people with severe allergies to peanuts or shrimp that experience is life threatening. There are no windows to open when your are flying. Practice being understanding towards others that have a serious health issue for a few hours during the flight. Enjoy your peanuts once you are back on the ground. Just because people with allergies do not have wheel chairs or o2 bottles in their nose that others can see their handicap does not mean they do not have a serious emotional & health issues being around allergens….World kindness starts with you!…
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Child-Free Traveler
June 13th, 2010
3:09 pm
Actually, my husband and I typically utilize bed and breakfast inns instead, which have been much quieter than most hotels and with some delicious breakfasts too. They can sometimes be better priced than some hotels too, depending on the location.
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Anne Marie Carpenter
June 13th, 2010
7:33 pm
For some peanuts pose a life threatening reaction!!!! There are many other alternatives to peanuts; pretzels, chips,crackers, fruit etc. These things are not life threatening, so common sense says serve food safe for all.
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Jud
June 16th, 2010
7:39 am
“Harry Potter’s world is one of two theme parks located at the Universal Orlando Resort. Visitors can purchase park-to-park tickets, which allow access to both Harry Potter and the Islands of Adventure theme park throughout the day;…”
Ah… have you really ever been to Orlando???
Harry Potter ‘Land’ is one area at Islands of Adventure, one of two theme parks at Universal Florida, the second being… ah… Universal Studios.
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Steph
June 16th, 2010
9:25 am
Yep, my understanding is that a ticket for Islands of Adventure covers Wizarding World of HP and all the other areas in that park, with Universal Studios being the other park, requiring a separate ticket. We are planning to be there in July, happily melting away while wandering amongst the ’snow’ covered roofs of Hogsmeade. Doubt I will be able to pull myself away from the magic world to explore any of the others. :^)
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Nancy Urich
June 16th, 2010
9:42 am
We are locals here in the sweat drenched Central Florida and are annual pass holers for Universal, we were lucky enough to get in the what we call “Harry Potter Land” Tuesday 4 days before the grand opening on Friday. Luckily the lines were not outrageous because of the hush hushness of it being open already. After our experience there I have to say I would battle the long lines, swim in my drenched with sweat clothes, strand in the always expected summer afternoon rain with a huge smile on my face during it all. Without letting any of the all around the land secrets out…it will be well worth your trip and major “Cool Mom points” to store away for future use. I was AMAZED the entire time we were there and would go back today if it was open (I was told they would be closed to the public for press time) but Thursday is a whole differnt story..so if you see a drenched with sweat 40 year old woman with a huge smile on her face holding a mug of frozed butterbeer standing in the rain…that will be me!
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Nancy Urich
June 16th, 2010
9:50 am
a ticket for Islands of Adventure will get you in to Harry Potter but a Universal Studios ticket will not. A 2 park ticket is available to get you into both but my advice if you are only going for the day go to just Islands of Adventure because there will not be enough time in the day to do both, you will spend half the day if not more just in Harry Potter Land….I not kidding!!!!
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ugaalum81
June 18th, 2010
8:46 am
We did the soft opening last week while we were guests at Hard Rock Hotel. Like any theme park, the tickets and food/souveneirs are all outrageouly expensive. However, the technology has evolved to where this HP attraction is amazing. Down to the last detail- the case members, ride, and Hogwarts Village is very true to the books & movie. Very impressive special effects and an all-around great attraction. Well done, Universal!
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ugaalum81
June 18th, 2010
8:50 am
Totally agree with Nancy Urich. If you only have a day, only do Islands of Adventure. Unfortunately, the lines will be long to get into Harry Potter, so you will spend several hours waiting to get on the ride inside the castle. But there’s lots of stuff to look at in the cue line. You won’t have time to do both parks in 1 day with the lines that are anticipated.
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Keith
June 18th, 2010
9:23 am
Hey guys –
Thanks for the clarification on the tickets to Universal Studios/Islands. We have been to Orlando many times, but always seem to do the Disney thing. Now that my kids are older, and frankly due in large part to the Harry Potter park, we are talking about checking out Universal as well. I must have misread the info on the Wizarding World website regarding ticket info. Thanks again!
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Sue Elliott
June 23rd, 2010
8:07 am
YES FOR the ban!!!!! I have multiple food allergies. Travel is a nightmare and unable to always avoid. The dust or oil on armrests can trigger an attack. For those how think this is easy to avoid or deal with are uninformed and need to talk to someone who has gone through it. I have, on a plane from Japan to Chicago. My throat became blistered, my tongue swelled from the back to front, I had a full body rash. I had trouble breathing, my pulse raced from the epi injection, the IV steroids I had to adminiser myself and the fear of dying on a plane the pilot cold not out down for my medical emergency. To get an idea of how it feels, put your head in a plastic bag, cut a small hole in the top and have someone lock you in a closet and walk away from you.
Anyone who can’t live without peanuts for the length of a plane ride has a problem.
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freqvar
June 23rd, 2010
11:17 am
What’s the big deal with eating peanuts? Are there not a gazillion other things we can eat on a flight? I bet the majority of the ppl. who eat them on flights couldn’t care less. But the minute you threaten their sense of freedom to eat peanuts; all of a sudden they are die hard peanut eaters?? Really? I mean what about “looking out for the other guy”. What about being concerned and considerate to someone with a “disability”? I understand the whole world will not revolve around ppl with food allergies. But can we at least *try* to have a little more compassion for “the least of these”? Would we not do the same for someone with another type of disability? Have we become that loveless as a society?
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not such a big deal to ban
June 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
I would have absolutely no problem with a ban. My niece is severely allergic to peanuts and I have seen her have a reaction (with hives and facial swelling) at a minor league ball game when a guy in front of us was shelling peanuts. It was a windy day and the peanut dust was flying up in her face. When she breathed it in or got it in her eyes, it was tantamount to a minor ingestion according to her allergist. She had to leave the game and be treated with benadryl to bring down the hives and swelling. In an airplane, the option to leave is obviously restricted until the flight comes to an end.
I have also read that studies show that if 20 of those small bags of peanuts are opened on an airplane, they would produce enough peanut dust (it puffs out when the bags are opened) to get into the common air system and cause a reaction in her. Imagine what 200 bags of those little suckers would do to a small child with a severe allergy. When she was an infant (before she was diagnosed), she flew several times and always ended up have explosive diarrhea (nice!), red splotchy skin, and raspy (asthmatic) breathing. No one knew why, but once she was diagnosed after eating peanut for the first time, she started flying on airlines that didn’t serves peanuts, she had absolutely no problem. Fortunately they live in an area served by AirTran, Jet Blue, and US Air, so they are able to fly to visit family and friends that live outside of driving distance. I think the real risk is a person having a severe reaction at 30,000 feet. Obviously, the allergic person isn’t going to eat peanuts, but they can’t avoid breathing. Once a reaction occurs, and the epi-pen is used, the person needs to get to an emergency room a.s.a.p. Personally, I could easily forego eating the few peanuts in that bag, so that someone nearby with an allergy wouldn’t have to worry about breathing in the peanut dust generated from opening up my bag.
I don’t see this issue any differently than providing a ramp for a person in a wheelchair to have access to a building. The life threatening allergy is also a disability; it’s just “invisible” to those that aren’t aware of it.
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Margaret Goss RN, BSN, MPA
June 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
It makes me sad to hear the peanut industry rejoicing that they have “won” since DOT released a clarification about their inability to legally ban peanuts on flights. If people were truly educated about the dangers of peanut allergy sufferers, they would “get it.” I am a registered nurse and mother of child w/life threatening food allergies including one to peanuts. For us not to fly would be to say to him he could never see his grandfather, aunts, uncles, and cousins. Most people affected by this allergy are young children that rely on the adults around them to keep them safe. Peanuts, for some unknown reason, have been the culprit of most FATAL reactions. What makes peanuts so unsafe for them,you ask? It causes analphylatic shock which can and does lead to death and mere inhalation of peanut dust can and has triggered numerous reactions. Would you like to be seated next to a dying two year old on airplane? I think not. Deaths due to peanuts in children do happen rapidly, we’re talking minutes, not hours. Not enough time to land a large airplane and seek emergency treatment. Currently epinephrine is the only medicine available for it and only can treat the symptoms, not prevent or cure it. And, it does not always work (review the death accounts). So, cheers to the peanut industry and good luck to the airlines. It’s an accident waiting to happen.
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Shelly
June 24th, 2010
4:42 am
I have a seafood allergy but fly on many international flights where there is a seafood option and am sensitive to perfume but don’t see heavy perfume being prohibited. I don’t propose a ban but certainly sensitivity to others.
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Tracy Crandall
June 24th, 2010
9:08 am
I fully support a peanut ban on airplanes. I can abstain from eating peanuts during a flight if it’ll spare the life of someone who is allergic to them. If smokers can fly without a cigarette, people can fly without eating peanuts. Once you land you can indulge at your destination and everyone is happy. The peanut farmers can still grow their peanuts and sell them in stores worldwide. It doesn’t mean people will stop buying or eating them if the airlines ban them.
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Agatha Weeks
June 28th, 2010
12:50 am
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Janeen Aggen
June 30th, 2010
5:58 pm
Keith: Great post! I challenge you to start making your plans to visit Independence, Missouri next year for the fourth right now. Somehow watching fireworks while listening to live patriotic music is much more exciting than keeping time or singing along with a radio.
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Lori
July 7th, 2010
9:06 am
Vancouver, BC. I went there in August of 2007 and it was the best vacation of my entire life. I almost cried when it was time to come home. If I ever win the lottery, I’m moving there!! We went to Vancouver and stayed in a Marriott right by Stanley Park, which is a huge park off of downtown. Absolutely stunning. So much to do outside there, and the weather was low to mid 70s during the day, so it was great. Long sleeves in the morning, and a t-shirt and jeans in the afternoon, or just push your sleeves up. We took a day trip up to Whistler and did a Zip-Line, which was awesome (but not for little kids, maybe 12 or so and up). We didn’t stay overnight, but I wish we had, because there was so much to do there (hiking on the glaciers, mountain biking, etc). We also took a ferry out to Victoria and spent the night there. The Dragon Boat Festival was going on, so that was neat to see. Vancouver has the PNE, which was a big fair going on, and they had a Bard on the Beach theater (Shakespeare). These guys don’t get a really long summer, but I can tell you, they sure know how to enjoy it. When my son gets a few years older, I think I’ll be repeating that vacation and taking him with me this time! Maybe next time, we won’t leave. Wonder what Canada’s immigration policy is like………
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N
July 7th, 2010
9:08 am
If your goal was to get away from the heat you wouldn’t have been going to the Florida beaches in the first place. I never thought of Minnesota summers as being much cooler and I know people say the humidity is bad there as well.
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Bill
July 7th, 2010
9:51 am
I second the idea of Vancouver, or other Canadian cities like Montreal and Toronto. I was in Vancouver last summer and needed a light jacket at night. San Francisco is similar. I just returned last week from 9 days and needed a jacket every day, highs in the mid to upper 60’s, lows in the mid 50’s. July is reportedly the coldes month in San Francisco.
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CA Clark
July 7th, 2010
1:22 pm
A late posting, to be sure, but I had not seen this news. We lived on SSI in the 60’s &70’s; I worked at the Cloister twice, once in housekeeping during high school, and again in the dining room several years later.
The employees knew “their place”, and we kept that tongue-in-cheek. Even though we viewed Sea Island with a healthy dose of irreverence, we all took a great deal of pride in delivering the sort of service that made our guests happy to be there and look forward to coming back. To this day, I enjoy having being a small part of a long tradition of elegance and quality.
Our guests were just that – guests. They were clearly of an economic class several notches above us, but never once did they attempt to lord it over the staff. Most of them were friendly, even gracious. I learned how to deal with people there, and I still believe that everyone should wait table, if only for long enough to find out if one has what it takes to do it well. The experience has served me well for a long time and in many ways.
When an employee made a suggestion to improve service, it was taken seriously. If a guest wanted something returned to the kitchen for any reason, we were told to discard it. Mr. Chalfa was the maitre d’, and he told me not to worry about costs – “we have accountants who do that.” – just worry about providing the best service. He was hard to please, but if you did, you knew it was because you were one of the best.
When Sea Island got started, the Depression put a hurting on them, too. When there was no cash for paychecks, many of the hired help kept right on doing their jobs. The kitchen kept them fed, and even let some good food go home to their families. Their loyalty was repaid in kind; when I was working there the first time, there were a few old guys who had free room and board at the employee dorms, and would until the end of their days. Alfred Jones intended to keep his promises.
Pity his descendants strayed from his vision.
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She-She
July 7th, 2010
3:57 pm
I went on vacation to Seattle and Vancouver last month (June 2010). The temps in Seattle during the day was in the high 60’s and in Vancouver low 70’s. I absolutely LOVED Vancouver – it was such a BEAUTIFUL place (and both Seattle and Vancouver were a great escape from the heat!) Would definitely want to travel back to Vancouver again for vacation!
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crotabalece
July 8th, 2010
10:39 pm
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crotabalece
July 9th, 2010
1:36 am
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Wendy Wilson
July 9th, 2010
3:37 pm
You need to send people to Destin, Florida. The media says the oil is on our beach and it is not. You can look at web cams at Gulfarium and other places in Destin, Florida and see that we are not affected. The Oil is from Pensacola to Galvaston. ( and is not as bad as they say (media) When the media says beaches of Florida, They need to specify. Our Waters are still emerald green and we have the whitest sand beaches. Thank you for coming to visit and supporting our tourism. If you are not here you are missing out. Go to Destin Chamber of Commerce for pictures.
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Wendy Wilson
July 9th, 2010
4:02 pm
July 9, 2010
We have been in Destin, Florida for sometime…. You can get an idea where the oil is on the noaa.gov site. there is map that shows where it is. The tar balls that wash up on okaloosa beach are so small you can hardly see them. They are cleaned up every morning before people go to the beach. Destin, Florida has no oil and never has it came close and the God pushes back and faraway from Destin, Florida. If you have not been to Destin, Florida you have missed out. God was having a great day when he created it.
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Kaylie
July 12th, 2010
1:59 pm
As I read these comments, I find myself completely taken back and extremely frustrated at what the media has done in portraying the devastation of the oil spill on the Gulf of Mexico. I am a resident of Destin, Florida and have lived here for several years now. I come in contact with the waters of the Emerald Coast daily, as I work on a Dolphin Cruise. I want to express my sympathy for the tourists who had vacation plans to this area, but who were deceived by the media to think that there is oil on the beaches, because it’s not. I come in contact with people every day who tell me how concerned they were about their vacation plans to Destin being ruined by the oil, but decided to come anyway. As one man put it, “If I wanted to find oil on the beaches of Destin, I would have to buy some.” As to the media who have taken this current situation and completely reported false facts, I would like you to get off your computer and your phone, and take a trip down here for yourself. Your facts are wrong, which makes your reports opinionated and not factual. The media has done more damage to Destin, Florida than the oil has. I am aware that the oil has hit areas that are close to this area, and that the oil has caused damage beyond comprehension to other areas, but know that when you report the damage for the entire Gulf of Mexico, you are terribly wrong. As for now, people are still enjoying the waters of the Emerald Coast by going on cruises and even fishing and we plan on it staying that way if the media will try to report positively rather than falsely.
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Nastassia
July 13th, 2010
3:49 pm
“Harry Potter’s world is one of two theme parks located at the Universal Orlando Resort.”
ERRRRRRRRRR…. WRONG. THE TWO THEME PARKS ARE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS AND ISLANDS OF ADVENTURE (IOA)…. WIZARDING WORLD IS IN IOA.
I THOUGHT THE ARTICLE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDATED AFTER JUD’S POST.
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Doug McGinnis
July 13th, 2010
9:57 pm
It is much cooler at the higher elevations in North Georgia or Western North Carolina.
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Chiropractor Myrtle Beach
July 14th, 2010
12:10 pm
I have read a few other websites related to this subject in the past few days in doing a research report for my boss. I have to say that what you’re saying here makes perfect sense and is helping me to get my head around this subject. Do you have any other websites you could recommend to help my research?
Regards,
Chiropractor
Chiropractor Myrtle Beach
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songbird
July 14th, 2010
3:07 pm
I have been screened this way twice since last xmas. I wasn’t that concerned about it but if there are health issues, then I think the use should be limited to cases where there is a real concern about the individual.
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Mr. Obvious
July 14th, 2010
3:26 pm
If the under-educated, self-important, unqualified, Affirmative Action-hired screener finds your body attractive, and if they can get away with it, the image of your body WILL be kept and/or shared.
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iama nonymous
July 14th, 2010
6:21 pm
Why do you call them “full-body scanners”? They are strip-search machines. I haven’t flown in more than a year and TSA is the main reason. I have no problem with the price of airfares. I have no false sense of modesty. (I’m sure the screeners pass boredom by watching for ostomies, breast and penile implants.) Rather, it’s the humiliation of being subject to a strip search which I choose to avoid. I travel long distances — recently to Reno, Denver, Charleston, several trips to New York — and I drive! It used to be fun to fly. My wife and I would drive to Atlanta Hartsfield Airport just to take long walks in its air-conditioned tunnels. Thanks TSA and Moslems. I’ve decided that human dignity is more important than phoney TSA safety screening.
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CP
July 15th, 2010
12:29 pm
Yes, TSA has been trying to force people through these things. I have been a very frequent business flyer for a quarter of a century. Just the other day, when I was only three people back in the line, the TSA people suddenly blocked off the old magnetic scanner and started forcing people through the PornoScan. This was only a few weeks since the same thing happened at another airport.
Everyone who believes in personal freedom and dignity should do what I do — flatly refuse and demand a frisking. If enough people protest by refusing, perhaps we can get somewhere with having these things removed after the coming November elections. Make absolutely no mistake — the feds are trying to virtually strip-search American citizens because (1) government wants more power over us, (2) cowardly politicians are willing to let the Muslims win, and (3) well-connected vendors want to make millions of tax-payer dollars selling these PornoScans. You and I are supposed to be good little sheep and do as we are told. Sorry, not me.
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SaveOurRepublic
July 15th, 2010
4:49 pm
This is a sham from the word go. Our southern borders are (basically) wide open to a sea of illegal invaders (destroying our infrastructure…on the taxpayers “fiat” dollar(s)), and the the illegit TSA has to shake down 90 year old women & other “dangerous suspect”. This is all about expanding the (Globalist Elite controlled) fedgov control grid & trampling on our Constitutional rights.
http://www.infowars.com
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John Black
July 18th, 2010
12:24 am
This is another late entry. My wife and I have been going to The Cloister since about 1982. It was just wonderful. But, Bill Jones seems to have gotten grandiose in his vision. He decided to remodel to become the best resort in the world, and basically left his base of Southeastern clients. I think that he would have failed even without the downturn in real estate the last two years. If he is stroking his ego that the economy ruined him, then he should rethink this. He left the roots of Georgia, Florida, SC, and NC. What a waste. The best thing that one could do was to upgrade to be ocean front. You could barely afford what you were doing, but it was The Cloister so let’s upgrade to the beach. The food charge will be the same, but we will be like the wealthy for the week. It was worth saving for this opportunity.
Tear down the new beach club and rebuild the numerous rooms that gave us all a chance to be on the beach in paradise. Bring back the American Plan for meals. Where is our Cloister, Mr. Jones.
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Watchmen
July 21st, 2010
1:15 pm
we are talking about full body x-rays here that is a HUGE heath concern. this is not your average dentist check up x-ray which is limited to a small part of your body.
don’t go true a body scanner unless you want to get skin or eye cancer in 10 years.
but its all good – it is just about the same radiation you get on a days mountain trip in a quarter second . it is the exposure TIME what matters not the amount. while the human body is perfectly able to coup with small amounts of radiation over a long time, the health effects of even small amounts of radiation within short time are UNKNOWN. nobody knows if your cancer came from a x-ray you took 10 years ago!. fact is: we x-ray today like we take photos on a vacation and cancer numbers and other DNA related diseases are exploding.
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Danger Ranger
July 21st, 2010
7:08 pm
Try Stephen Foster State Park, deep inside the swamp.
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K Williams
July 21st, 2010
7:15 pm
Most people prefer the Folkston entrance, but they have just rebuilt the viewing tower in Waycross, so there is some hoopla over that. Go to http://www.folkston.com/trains/trains.htm to find out about a unique train-viewing experience available there.
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don
July 21st, 2010
7:34 pm
TheStephenFoster Park entrance, near Fargo, is by far the most scenic and pristine entry into the swamp. Will take longer from the east, but well worth it.
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HeavelyJane
July 21st, 2010
7:53 pm
We prefer the Stephen C. Foster State Park because they have lovely CCC-era cabins and within a short stroll are rental boats. You can park your car and not use it until you leave.
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Swampgirl
July 21st, 2010
8:16 pm
Bring lots of water for your trip through the swamp and even more bug spray. You’ll get drenched with sweat but it is a delightful adventure in the park. You can canoe on your own or with a guide. We prefer the guides when we take the kids or family so they can get a great history of the swamp. Most of the guides have been there many, many years and a few grew up in the swamp. If you can get out to the Chesser homestead on the Folkston side, do it. Sometimes the Chesser children that grew up in the house come back to talk to the visitors. We went one day and spent 2 hours talking to one of the daughters (she was 90) as she quilted on the front porch. If you can make it Stephen Foster, it’s worth a trip as well. Maybe even get brave and stay over night in one of the cabins. And bring lots of water and bug spray, lots, trust me.
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PaddleBoy
July 21st, 2010
9:40 pm
I’ve done two overnight canoe jaunts through the swamp. The advice to hit Steven Foster park is the right advice for a canoeing or kayaking day trip. It is the most gorgeous aspect of the swamp, and is the traditional vision of what a swamp should look like. It’s a short 30-minute or so paddle across open water to the most beautiful areas of the swamp; totally immersed. I can’t speak to the educational or other features of the Steven Foster entrance, but it’s great for a paddle.
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Steve
July 22nd, 2010
2:12 am
It’s so refreshing to see reader responses that are polite and positive. So many of these posts turn into rants and raves and fights. Kudos on the article and on the great responses.
I have never been to the swamp, but was fortunate enough to stay near a river/swamp while working in Gainesville a decade or so ago. I always wanted to go on a vacation to the swamp since that Gainesville trip, and all of these responses are very helpful .. and making me want to go right away. Thanks for all the tips everyone!
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Chuck
July 22nd, 2010
4:57 am
I visited the Okefenokee for the first time about two years ago and chose to stay at Stephen C. Foster State Park as I wanted to camp out for a couple of days. The 90 minute boat tour is great and if you search Youtube you will find 3 videos of the Swamp Tour that I posted shortly after my trip. It was only myself and the park guide on the boat. We were able to see 4-5 alligators on the tour. One of them we were pretty close to as it was laying out on some of the blowups. I went in late August and at that time there weren’t any baby gators out and about. If you had the time I would recommend camping out for a couple of days. There is the museum there at the park, but also another one just before you turn on the road to the park. It’s also really nice and while going in I was able to see a Rat Snake, I think, wandering around the sandy river area near by.
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Brent
July 22nd, 2010
5:34 am
I took my daughter about 15 years ago and we rented a jon boat and outboard motor at the Folkston entrance. It was a very neat experience and we talked about it just the other day, she is in college! Recommend bug spray, GPS if you go without a guide as we did, water, snacks, and the most important CAMERA!
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The Dogfather
July 22nd, 2010
8:55 am
The swamp is fun for the youngsters and quite scenic for us old folk.We also reside part time in St Simons and have also “discovered” Sapelo Island. Gret day trip.Gotta catch the ferry-nobrodges stop lights or fast food. Check out the reynolds mansion(built in the roaring 20’s with no expense spared) and meet the gullah families(some of the nicest people) . It was much better than cumberland island.Check it out –you won’t be disappointed.
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Timothy justice
July 22nd, 2010
9:32 am
I remember back in the early 70’s, I went a couple of years with my Explorer group camping on Billys Island for a week during spring break. I had a whale of a time ruffin’ it. I loved it and recommend that any one that has this opportunity should take it. Like Jimmy Dean says, “Ain’t none better.”
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downsouth
July 22nd, 2010
10:37 am
I wouldn’t worry about trying to go to the Waycross entrance if you go to Stephen Foster. It’s quite a long drive between the two. I’ve been going to the swamp all my life, and love staying at Stephen Foster and renting the jon boats. If you could snag a cabin there for one night – DO IT. you’ll need to bring food though.
You don’t need a GPS if you don’t have a guide, there’s really not many places to get lost, as long as you don’t take the jon boat down a closed canoe trail, or go on some crazy walkabout on Billy’s Island!!
bring bug spray, sunscreen lots of water, and hats!! i’d only bring the bikes if you stay overnite. not much riding except back down the road you came in on. there’s a small boardwalk area there around the boat docks.
it’s always a good time in the swamp, and don’t worry about the gators, they stay out of your way. i’d rent the jon boat over the canoes if you have any concerns of your kids not being able to maneuver a canoe, and if you’re only there for a day, you’ll see more. it’s much different in the swamp than messing around on a lake, wondering if something lies beneath!!!! chomp!!
it is a GREAT place that so many people have never been, thinking “swamp” means yucky or something. once they actually get in there and see it, they are amazed at how beautiful it is. I hope y’all have a great time.
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Phil L
July 22nd, 2010
10:59 am
Have done 2 or 3 multi-day trips through the swamp. Highly recommend after mosquito season since I have been there in different season. Is a tantastic place to visit and is really fun to have a raccoon walk across your chest in the middle of the night on one of the camping platforms. Also, night time gator eye viewing was great! Have a great time! I need to bring my kids and grandkids on a visit now.
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Terri
July 22nd, 2010
12:33 pm
I took my boys to the park through the entrance near Folkston in June 2000. At that time, the swamp was experiencing a drought so we couldn’t rent a motorboat, only a canoe. Most of the alligators were in the canal so we saw quite a few very close to our canoe. Lots of bugs and humidity but still an incredible experience. We rented a tiny cabin right outside the park entrance. We went back in December a couple of years later and stayed at one of the cabins at Stephen C. Foster State Park. The water level was up so we were able to rent a motorboat and go out to Billy’s Island and explore the remnants of the old logging town. We didn’t see even one alligator on our second trip to the swamp but did see many birds and other wildlife. We got a different perspective of the swamp from each trip.
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Nana
July 22nd, 2010
1:02 pm
I took my 3 Granddaughters ( 1 age 7, 2 age 5) to the Waycross entrance last year. They still ask me to take them back. Sunscreen and bug spray are a must. We did the 90 minute boat trip and saw many ‘gators. We caught Okefenokee Joe’s serpent show. The ole time village showed the girls how Nana grew up in rural Georgia in the fifties. They still don’t believe me. All staff were friendly and our experience was educational.
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Keith
July 23rd, 2010
8:44 am
Thank you to everyone! This is great advice and will definitely help me plan our trip through the swamp. I’ll let you know how things go!
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Clutch Cargo
July 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
The best way to explore the Ok-fun-ok is with a pair of weighters strapped on.
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Su
July 31st, 2010
7:56 am
I think that being detained could be a mental health issue both from stress if running late, and possibly revive painful memories of powerlessness. People are pulled without warning or explanation.
People should have a variation of Miranda rights explaining option of pat down or not flying. I would have chosen not to fly.
The guard in Tampa pulled the person into a machine and said only “raise hands, spread legs”. After leaving the xray area, a guard, without smile or word, simply blocked the exit from the area for 2? minutes (possibly while the film was developed?). Her only comment when I asked when I could leave was “Patience is a virtue” and finally “Female clearned” into her headset as she stepped aside.
In the meantime, I wonder if they keep and disaggregate demographic data about the age, race, gender, nationality. It seems like human nature to “randomly select” people who will not protest too much.
How does this expensive misuse of tax dollars help national security?
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A Reader
August 4th, 2010
2:06 pm
Looks like the TSA spokespeople have either been willfully ignorant or deliberately lying when they have said the machines don’t store images. Today’s headline: Feds admit storing checkpoint body scan images (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20012583-281.html)
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JoeV
August 6th, 2010
2:53 pm
Anyone that gives ANY credence to a horoscope for any reason at all needs their head checked immediately.
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Mr. Ed
August 6th, 2010
3:21 pm
You are so right JoeV. Forget your horoscope.
Crystalomancy is the way to go. The vision induced from a crystal gazing trance predicts events with a richer yield.
Tarot card may be used in an extreme emergency.
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Anne Decker
August 8th, 2010
8:16 am
I’m 100% behind total ban of peanuts on planes. Think about it from the allergy sufferer: my daughter – at this moment literally having to beg cabin crew to withdraw nuts. She suffered a reaction on her outward trip because of the snacks (first allergic reaction on a plane). She spent the night before last in hospital on a drip after accidently ingesting nuts. The passenger: can’t have peanuts for a short (even a long) trip. Is this really such a deprivation? Which rights count more? The right to health and life .. or the right to peanuts? Opponents just don’t have an argument. Plus, if someone like my daughter has severe anaphylactic shock on a plane, yes, she’s got her epipen but would then need hospital treatment. Do you want your plane diverted and delayed just so you can eat a nut?
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Cruises
August 12th, 2010
11:52 am
I was really apprhensive about going solo, but I found a really great cheap crusie deal on http://www.Cruise.co.uk for single passenegers on Cunard, so I decided not to miss the opportunity. And having recently returned from my holiday I am glad that i did because i had a great time, I could do what i wanted when i wanted without compromising anything also during dinner Cunard had seated me with other singles so you had the chance to make freinds onboard as well. I would highly recommend a cruise to anyone thinking of travelling solo.
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Chris H.
August 12th, 2010
9:28 pm
Another REALTOR, that’s a great point you raise about non-SICO realtors being able to access the island. I tried to push that issue and was told that “your buyer will not be able to join the Sea Island Club if you sell your house any other way than through our agency”, and that included FSBO. That’s criminal. The thing that gets me is the Brunswick area MLS would not push the issue because local politico’s were afraid of the big bad SICO. That’s criminal.
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Sue
August 18th, 2010
10:45 am
I think it’s a great idea. I am lucky that my birthday is close to Memorial Day so for the past couple years we have spent a week at the beach for my birthday and it coincides with the holiday for an extra day off work. We try to visit a different place every year.
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Mizz
August 19th, 2010
3:07 pm
When me and my girls hit one of the big birthdays, we take destination trips: Sanibel Island, Las Vegas, The Outer Banks, New York City, Tybee Island. We usually let the birthday girl select the destination.
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cisinc
August 19th, 2010
3:13 pm
I was lucky enough to spend my birthday this summer at Montaluce in Dahlonega ( http://www.montaluce.com)…couldn’t afford Italy this year but this was the next best thing.
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She-She
August 19th, 2010
3:25 pm
My birthday was August 8 and it was not one of those milestones. I just felt I had to get away from the day to day hustle and bustle, so a girlfriend and I went to Miami (South Beach) for 4 WONDERFUL days!! We had a BLAST! It’s been the BEST birthday since I was 30. When I was 30, me and another girlfriend went to San Juan for 4 days and then embarked on a 7 day Carribean cruise that actually departed on my actual birthday!
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Monique B.
August 19th, 2010
3:27 pm
I turned 30 two weeks ago, and to celebrate my 30th birthday, I planned a birthday trip to Miami with 2 of my friends. We had an awesome time celebrating my birthday in Miami last week. It was a memorable and fun-filled birthday vacation that I will never forget.
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Birthday Girl
August 19th, 2010
3:28 pm
every year, I take a birthday vacation. I get a condo by the beach, a stack of books and magazines I haven’t had a chance to read all year and I do nothing but sun, walk on the beach, take long bike rides and relax. No phone, no email, no one. Other than checking in the condo, and pleasantries with passerbys, I speak to no one. It’s bliss. I leave in 9 days.
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elsie
August 19th, 2010
3:38 pm
BirthdayGirl – I am turning 40 this year and that is what I am going to do. My Hubby booked me a trip to Cancun. I want to spend the time alone so I am taking my books, magazines and I am going to relax. I am going to celebrate being 40 all year long doing a lot of things that I want to do.
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MsBulldawg84
August 19th, 2010
3:46 pm
I turned 49 a few weeks ago. In anticipation of the big 5-0, I am designating one weekend a month to do something special as a way of counting down to my birthday next July. Last weekend was the Georgia coast with a friend, next month, hopefully, NYC! All of my friends are clamoring to be chosen for one of these weekend outings.
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justmy2cents
August 19th, 2010
3:52 pm
We usually travel around my bday. This year we will be spending 9 nights in Jamaica. Can’t wait, leave in 2 weeks!
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*J
August 19th, 2010
4:31 pm
BILOXI MI$$I$$IPPI…….My BIRTHDAY is always over Labor Day weekend- fun to go down and do a little bit of gambling….
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verdi73
August 19th, 2010
5:12 pm
We are doing a birthday weekend in Vegas with our friends in October. She is celebrating her 40th birthday.
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MR. NADS
August 21st, 2010
11:02 am
can i hang outta my speedo’s??
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MR. NADS
August 21st, 2010
6:31 pm
Have you ever noticed the seat cushings smell like a chilupa on Air Tran planes.
Watch the commercial where people hack and sneeze, lift up and break wind.
Now, you get the picture.
Go Greyhound, clean transpotation.
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MR. NADS
August 21st, 2010
7:49 pm
”Did you see what they did to our conference room”..
go get the plate of food….and lock the lavotory door,please!!
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molly
August 22nd, 2010
9:16 am
We’ve been to the Swamp a few times…stayed at Folkston and Foster. Love the cabins at Foster. Can make the drive from east to west easily. The evening/night boat ride into the swamp on the east side is a can’t miss. Head out near sunset…see/hear the sunset in the chesser prairie, then, in the dark, flash flashlights out into the swamp to see the vibrant red of alligators’ eyes reflect back. Absolutely stunning trip. One time, when it was just my son and me at Foster…we went out for a walk at night under the stars. Could see/hear the alligators along the canal leading out to the river. There was a group of deer in a clearing. Stars were incredible and it was SOO quiet. As we stood there and took it all in, started to hear what sounded like a strong wind starting up. Turns out, it was a flock of sandhill cranes heading into the swamp. Can’t beat it.
Another time there, after a night boat ride into the swamp, we were able to very clearly see Halley’s comet. The boardwalk on the east side is great. We’ve also stayed in St. Mary’s state park and made the drive. This place is one of my most favorite on earth…don’t miss it.
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molly
August 22nd, 2010
9:20 am
Also…do explore the Chesser home…we met one of the children (she was about 85 several years ago). Fascinating…
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Paula
August 22nd, 2010
7:24 pm
I frequently travel alone – most of my friends are married and no longer want to take vacations without their husbands (even though they do not have children…). I’ve been to Scotland, Mexico, and various places throughout the states (mostly hiking), and I’ve done it all alone. There are many benefits, and if you are outgoing enough you can meet many people – or not if you’re not up to it. For me the best way to do it is to stay at Bed & Breakfasts….making friends with the owners is key, but usually pretty easy. I still keep in touch with several of the B&B owners I have stayed with, both in Scotland and in Montana. I know many who are apprehensive about traveling alone, and it really is something that you have to be ready for….if you are comfortable with being by yourself it can be really fantastic. My next big trip is Spain next year
…as long as I can get at least somewhat fluent between now and then.
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kathy chiaravalli
August 23rd, 2010
11:23 pm
I have had peanut induced anaphalatic shock on an airplane while pregnant. I have also had other emergency room visits due to peanuts. Masks don’t work, airline procedures for submitting allergy info are not very effective, it is difficult and embarrassing to have to ask other passengers not to eat peanuts (they are often starving) an epipen isn’t 100 % effective. Are incremental profits from in flight peanut sales more important than lives? I empathize with people with other allergies. I’m not sure why a personal air purifier would not be allowed. I remember when planes were toxic buckets of tobacco smoke, airlines reduced expenses by banning smoke while improving passenger health even though this reduced tobacco profits. Many airlines have banned peanuts, perhaps due to liability and expense. Delta seems to be allied with the georgia peanut industry and continues to insist on providing this life-threatening snack. Unfortunately, I live in a Detla hub and there aren’t many alternatives. It is kind of interesting that increasingly you have to pay for everything onboard, yet the airlines want to right to provide free snacks that are poison to a significant number of travelors.
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Ron Taylor
August 25th, 2010
4:58 pm
Some great deals North of Toronto for a Canada Labour Day weekend see http://www.400eleven.com/long-weekend.html#laborday
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bev
August 27th, 2010
3:22 pm
There are so many beautiful places in north GA – Anna Ruby falls, Unicoi state park, Vogel state park, etc. with great hiking, canoeing, swimming, or just simply relaxing in nature. Check out these and more gorgeous places right here in GA! The commute is short & easy!
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Matt - Colorado Wedding Photographer
August 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
Absolutely. Especially if you have an interest your family doesn’t really share. I love skiing, and sometimes it’s nice to be able to hit the advanced slopes, so it doesn’t make much sense to travel with people who can’t.
Matt – Colorado Wedding Photographer
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MR. NADS
August 28th, 2010
9:11 am
Between ‘bed’ bugs and flatulated air plane seats I think I will stay home.
”did you see what they did to our conference room”"
(air tran commercial)
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granny godzilla
August 28th, 2010
4:35 pm
we must destroy capitalism and adopt socialism…
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MR. NADS
August 29th, 2010
11:27 am
sniffing the seat cushions a good idea before flying…
Bring your personal can of ‘Fabreeze’……..
OH, I FORGOT, THAT IS A BANNED ITEM !!!!!!!!
sorry…………..
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ugg
August 31st, 2010
10:46 pm
I like this song a lot. I think you’re rightchi flat irons
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Kevin Glenn
September 1st, 2010
11:54 am
Cavers are very secretive about cave locations and for good reason. Caves are fragile environments, and are vulnerable to vandalism. Many of Georgia’s fine caves have been literally destroyed by vandals over the years. Spray painting, bat killing people partying in caves have made the caving community very tight-lipped about even discussing where caves are located. The White River Cave in west Georgia is a good example of a cave being trashed. The good thing is that it is now gated and owned by a responsible owner who is restoring this natural wonder.
The air of secrecy that cavers have makes it difficult to even enter the sport. Unless you are born to caving parents, you don’t typically just become a caver. You have to WANT to be a caver. Caving takes effort, and even joining the caving community takes an effort. If anyone is interested in caving, the best place to start is the website of the National Speleological Society at http://www.caves.org/
The NSS is broken down into regional chapters called “grottos”. From the NSS webpage, you can find a grotto near you. Despite our secretive nature, we are a very welcoming group of people, particularly to those who are genuinely interested in caves and caving.
Remember, Cave softly. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, and kill nothing but time.
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MR. NADS
September 4th, 2010
8:39 am
SMELL THE SEAT CUSHIONS BEFORE FLYING fartknockers!!!
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hung knee lo
September 5th, 2010
4:55 pm
whats a ‘fartknocker’ ??
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hung knee lo
September 11th, 2010
9:06 am
if you fly air-tran, check the seat cushions for ‘fartknockers’.
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Adil
September 12th, 2010
5:00 am
hey wonderful story. I’ve shared it in my blog at http://thetripmagic.com (full credits etc).
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Dirty undies
September 14th, 2010
10:38 am
I love to travel to Op Alabama. Very nice place!!
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Dirty undies
September 14th, 2010
10:39 am
I love to visit Op AL on my birthday vacations.
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Widower
September 14th, 2010
10:43 am
Ive had taken several of my previous wives on weekend visits to the Swamp for overnight camping trips but the funniest thing keeps happening. When I awake in the morning they have disappeared.
Now being Im a business man I must return to work Monday only to receive a call later in the week that my wife was found stabbed or eaten by alligators or died from a snake bite or drowned etc.
Ive lost several wives in this manner and cant quite understand what keeps happening. They just keep up and dying on me.
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Skippy
September 14th, 2010
10:45 am
I enjoy going to my wifes panty drawer when she is away.
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Skippy
September 15th, 2010
8:18 am
I like to travel to Piedmont Park about 1:30 a.m. Sat Morning and stand by the big oak tree at Queens Hill wearing nothing by my pink jumper.
See ya this weekend, Boys!!
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Skippy
September 15th, 2010
8:21 am
I know of a couple camps sites in the Keys and a few more at Fire Island. Very festive and its clothing optional…tee hee.
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Swinging Richard
September 15th, 2010
8:22 am
I love late night early morning vacations around the dumpsters at “back street” and/or the “eagle”. I can be found there, alone and waiting for you, most anytime after midnight.
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Swinging Richard
September 15th, 2010
8:23 am
Happy Birthday to me. *KISS*
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Stinger in Deep
September 18th, 2010
9:32 am
SKIPPY IS A FARTKNOCKER…
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Who Cares?
September 18th, 2010
11:09 pm
Give me a break. Just stay in a motel if you can’t hang! Then come back to the city and brag/lie to your friends about how you roughed it over the weekend. Sheesh…..
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Stinger in Deep
September 19th, 2010
10:07 am
Who Cares about any of this retoric………
only 4 posts in 3 days
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Red
September 20th, 2010
7:42 am
I’ll bet with ‘glamping’ there wouldn’t be all thoes annoying, loud, beer drinking RV owners keeping me up all night arguing at the top of their drunk voices about which NASCAR driver is best.
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Green
September 20th, 2010
9:06 am
Red, I didn’t know that ‘glamping’ was offered at the Talladega infield.
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John Rocker(former Braves pitcher)
September 25th, 2010
10:53 am
I get bad case of Hershey squirts when I eat apples . It runs down my pants leg and in to my shoes.
Any suggestions.The smell is quite awful.
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John Rocker(former Braves pitcher)
October 3rd, 2010
10:16 am
fartknockers ride on airplanes and stink up the seats..Bend down and take a whiff.
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winkasdad29
October 13th, 2010
9:00 am
Walking to school in the Bronx during the 70s is number 1. Driving down some of these streets in Metro Atlanta (the ones with no lights whatsoever) might be number 2.
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Roekest
October 13th, 2010
9:05 am
Anywhere in Atlanta south of North Ave.
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shaggy
October 13th, 2010
9:07 am
Driving on I-285 anytime.
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Mike
October 13th, 2010
9:13 am
The Barack Obama rally at GA Tech.
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Delvin
October 13th, 2010
9:16 am
Scariest place I’ve ever been? Hum, without a doubt it would have to be South Atlanta. My car ran out of gas and I had to walk to a convenience store. I really feared for my life.
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please
October 13th, 2010
9:19 am
you people haven’t been anywhere obviously – i had a gun pulled on me at 2am in St petersburg russia, a knife pulled on me in south side chicago, and got whacked in the head in rio during an attempted mugging. atlanta is a cakewalk compared to these three
and mike, please drop the political drivel. it’s so boring.
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Brad
October 13th, 2010
9:32 am
@please St. Petersburg is on the top of my list. No weapons actually pulled, but I felt as though I was being sized up for a mugging whenever I was on the street or in the tube. Had a scary run-in with skinheads in Zurich.
Atlanta is a cakewalk.
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ATLDawg, ya dig?
October 13th, 2010
9:41 am
Phnomn Penh. Paris at night after the Metro shuts down. We were heading to Charles De Gaulle and got let out in an Algerian slum. Didn’t think I’d get out of that one alive. And not to pick fights, but west of vine city at night is pretty freaking sketchy, even by global standards.
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The Reverend Earl W. Bedpan IV
October 13th, 2010
9:56 am
My ex wifes family’s house at Thanksgiving. Her brother kept coming on to me, the turkey was undercooked and we all got sick, my ex father in law hates football and the place smelled of cat urine.
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Call it like it is
October 13th, 2010
10:00 am
Hmmm…When q100 was paying for everybody to go to six flags a couple of years back that was pretty scary.
Being in Belfast during one of thier riots was pretty cool.
But the coolest place was Leslie Castle in the county of Monaghan, Ireland on Halloween Night. One of Irelands most haunted castles. Will never forget that night
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Intrepid
October 13th, 2010
10:03 am
East St. Louis, with an overheating engine, middle of one hot summer day in 1982 – I was terrified. Deserted streets, bridge to St Louis that I had planned to take was blocked off and my map-reading Canadian husband said “here – you figure out how to get us out of here – it’s YOUR country”. This was one of the places featured in the National Lampoon Vacation movie where, in the movie, the station wagon was ’stripped’ and spray painted while the family was sitting in it…
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Red Roosterette
October 13th, 2010
10:10 am
Taking a quick look at my Dad’s childhood neighborhood in South Philly. It was probably an ok Irish neighborhood in the 1940s, but now it is scary with bombed out looking bldgs and thugs everywhere. Thank god it was a ride thru with our windows rolled up.
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Fedup
October 13th, 2010
10:32 am
1. College Park
2. East Point
3. Anywhere in Clayton County
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Pillsbury
October 13th, 2010
10:42 am
New Orleans in May 2004—I didn’t feel safe anywhere.
Atlanta (circa 1988): when I was a kid my dad took my brother and I down Peachtree Street to show us the tall buildings. It was about 9:30 on a Saturday night and we’d just left a Braves game. There were prostitutes everywhere–I mean everywhere. And there were people who kept approaching the cars from the sidewalks (it was standstill traffic). And then we went to a BP station, where all these men got out of this tiny car. They were all wearing black leather and makeup and smiled at us they walked into the store. As a 10 year old kid, it was scary and exciting at the same time.
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Matt
October 13th, 2010
10:56 am
Grant Park along Boulevard after 2 a.m. is pretty scary. I also once went to a ghetto Stone Mountain neighborhood to look at a car for sale (didn’t know it was a ghetto). The minute we pulled into that neighborhood, every single gangsta’s eyes followed us until we rounded the bend. Their faces clearly said that they don’t like white people in their ‘hood. When we were exiting the neighborhood a few minutes later (the car had had it’s steering column and radio ripped out by a thief, big surprise), the same thing happened. They all stared us down until we were out of their ‘hood. I’ll never set foot in a ghetto again.
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Jimmyz
October 13th, 2010
10:59 am
Cancun resort two years ago. Got there, was told the elevators were out. Trudged up six flights of narrow condensation slicked steps, dragging our stuff, with the only light provided by an employee on every landing with a little flashlight.
Started looking, noticed no emergency lighting in the hallway, no smoke detectors anywhere, thought to myself, “hope this place doesn’t catch fire.”
3 a.m. we’re awakened by a siren, which stops right out front, then another. By the third siren, I’m up looking out, seeing what passes for fire brigade in Mexico roll up. It was one old green tanker, one old pumper (60’s vintage, and a half dozen guys riding in the back of a police pickup truck. Scared the heck out of us, for sure.
The laundry room was on fire. I was never more glad that I always bring my own flashlight on trips than I was getting down those stairs that night.
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Devildog
October 13th, 2010
11:03 am
Parris Island, October, 1956. Nothing has scared me since.
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Drago
October 13th, 2010
11:12 am
I was 15 in 1971 and travelled with my parents to the Grand Canyon. We arrived in Albuquerque just before dark and checked into hotel. As it got dark, there were fires everywhere and we learned there was rioting going on and we were in the middle of it. The police would not let us leave until daylight. Fires and rioting all night. I still don’t know what it was about, but it was a scary thing to a 15 year old living a sheltered life.
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jman
October 13th, 2010
5:42 pm
The Barack Obama rally at GA Tech.
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5150 P.O.A.D
October 13th, 2010
6:33 pm
A city of Atlanta Public School followed by New Orleans followed by a UGA football game in Athens as an opposing teams fan.
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Danny G
October 13th, 2010
6:51 pm
You guys that say Atlanta is a cake walk, grab a cake and start walking. Walk around the Dome at 2 in the morning. Walk around Turner Field at 2 in the morning. BUT! You could walk around any major city at 2 in the morning and lose your cake. I am 5th generation Atlantan and proud of it. Not unlike any city, we do have our ugly areas. My advise? Don’t go there and you will be fine.
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FAN
October 13th, 2010
6:57 pm
@POAD, YOU LITTLE GIRL
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Mistake by the Lake
October 13th, 2010
7:05 pm
Cleveland, OH without a doubt!
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JF
October 13th, 2010
7:15 pm
When I accidentally bumped into a Tea Party rally at the capitol (I’m a person of color)
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David
October 13th, 2010
7:41 pm
Driving through Cairo, Egypt at night, when many of the Egyptians drive without headlights. They think it runs down the battery in the car. Go figure…..
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hmmmm
October 13th, 2010
7:49 pm
Has to be in a subway station in Budapest, Hungary in 2008/Police Officer told me that I had violated a subway “law” and threatened me and my teenage daughters/told me he put would put us in jail unless we paid him $500 which I didn’t have/Hungarian locals tried to help us by telling the officer to leave us alone/the officer yelled for them to mind their own business/I kept standing my ground, started yelling for help,and told him I would report him/he finally let us go/was later told that this happens a lot in Budapest and sometimes it doesn’t end this well.
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Sacriest travel?
October 13th, 2010
7:55 pm
Maybe not the scariest but a sobering reminder of the past.
1) Walking through the Nazi death camps, gas chambers and prison “hospitals”
2) As a kid we visited the abandoned Waverly Sanitarium in Louisville, KY. There was a “death tunnel” where they transported the dead (daily) via rail to the trains.
3) Riding a motorcycle cross country through the primitive areas of Mexico.
4) Visiting the top of the Mayan pyramids where they executed innocents by ripping their hearts out while alive and offering it to their gods. You can see buildings built out of human remains.
5) Atlanta projects after hours – its like the night of the living dead.
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Stewie
October 13th, 2010
7:56 pm
Appalachicola, FL.
Arrived there late at night on the way to spring break at Panama City in the late 80s, looking for somewhere to park and catch a few zzzz’s. Everywhere we went seemed haunted and creepy…lights flickering in previously dark windows, curtains moving without anybody there, ghostly apparitions in the park. Strange juju going on in that place.
Second scariest place is Alpharetta. Modern-day Stepford.
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JR
October 13th, 2010
7:58 pm
CARACAS VENEZUELA BY FAR.
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Bob
October 13th, 2010
8:08 pm
Downtown Atlanta. At least the Moslems don’t tolerate thuggery.
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ccccc8000
October 13th, 2010
8:12 pm
1. My father in law who lives in New Orleans took us on a short cut (pre-katrina) through a project to get to a bar faster, people started screaming followed by throwing bottles, bricks , rocks at our car, thought we were dead thank god he hit the gas and could drive with broken windshield
2. back in 89 me and three idiots friends , all seniors in highschool at Dunwoody decided after watching a Ga Tech BB game to see if we were brave enough to drive into Techwood homes and park and get out. Long story short we did and to my suprise to this day we ended up staying for a couple of hours talking to residents ,and gang bangers , they were amazed by our bravery so everyone was cool(even gave us some beers)
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downtowner
October 13th, 2010
8:25 pm
Gee, there seem to be an awful lot of white folks answering here about venturing into black neighborhoods.
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janet
October 13th, 2010
8:38 pm
A BBQ fundraiser in Roswell for Republicans. Not enough words to describe that scariness.
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JDW
October 13th, 2010
9:02 pm
Took wrong turns in LA and Detroit that were pretty damn unerving, but the top of the list has to be downtown Johannesburg.
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Ahmed
October 13th, 2010
9:05 pm
Porterdale pool in 1975. I went in the bathroom and there were 3 older upper teen boys that looked at me and said, “you shore do have a purdy mouth”. Needless to say, I ran out and pee’d in the pool
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South Atlantan Forever at Heart
October 13th, 2010
9:26 pm
It is sooooo funny hearing how people are scared of South Atlanta. Being from South Atlanta and now having the opportunity to leave the area due to education, I love to see people judge areas with people whom they don’t understand nor have the intention. Of course, I can understand to the anxiety the people feel as most people in these areas feel the same way you do. The difference is that they cannot afford to leave. To me, it also speaks to the will to survive and mental toughness you must have in order to LIVE in these areas, not just ride through, get lost, or visit. Of course from my message, there are are strong assumptions that can be made about my background (demographic) as I have strong assumptions about these posters with comments about South Atlanta. Maybe the fear factor is why these scary people break down under extreme stress (especially financial) . What all of you must understand is that extreme stress is a way of life from money, food, gunshots, robberies, rape, and other ever-present dangers. I love my people of South Atlanta and I wish you the best. The scariest place(s) I’ve visited are the corporate offices and places other than South Atlanta where those in these areas stab you in the back without a clue of there intentions, or the lies they tell you for their benefit to benefit for themselves. At least the fear of south Atlanta let’s itself be known instead of surprise attacks. Be well my people (South Atlantan’s). It takes time, but we will CONTINUE to rise.
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Wes T.
October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm
Driving to the in-laws in the burbs. The beautiful vista of strip-malls, identical houses and white picked fences is invariably terrifying. Makes me wish I was back in Rio, walking drunk through the streets at 4 am trying to find my apartment, or for that matter in East Point, where I lived for a bit.
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80sDawg
October 13th, 2010
9:37 pm
Algiers, Louisiana without a doubt. Scariest place on earth!!
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Steve
October 13th, 2010
9:50 pm
any gas station in Atlanta at 2am …
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blue
October 13th, 2010
9:59 pm
1) tiajuana eating mexican iguana, 2) barrel of a gun in virginia highlands from a hip-hop thug, 3) church on sunday morn
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South Atlantan Forever at Heart
October 13th, 2010
10:05 pm
Why are people of other races afraid to just say what’s on their minds instead of referring to blacks as thugs or people in the hip-hop culture like we don’t know who you are talking about? You are the people I’m scared if bc you hide who you really are but smile in the faces of people you hate and cry foul when we call you on what’s obvious in society. You’re in a safe place at your computer. No angry black man’s going to hurt you. Hypocrites…
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JesusFreak
October 13th, 2010
10:29 pm
Judgment Journey in LaGrange was very frightening and had realistic scenes. That said, the scariest part of all is reserved for those who are not believers. We will all be judged, death is not the end of our road, there’s lots more beyond this world. I would be scared to be on the wrong side of that equation.
I haven’t been but heard Tribulation Trail is even more graphic. Paying to be scared just isn’t my thing, life in 2010 is scary enough. I have walked the streets of do-or-die Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn and lived in Bushwick, Brooklyn in the 80’s. The movie Fort Apache, the Bronx showed what my ‘hood was like in real life so I’ve had all the thrills to last me a lifetime.
To those who bring up the race card, a black person walking in a well-to-do neighborhood is far safer than a white person walking in the ghetto. Statistics don’t lie. Yes, education is the key and to the S. Atlantan who escaped via education, maybe you can share with people how saying how they are fittin’ to do something or talking about the gummint won’t get them the type of corporate job that is going to enable them to escape their daily condition. Talking like a bonehead and dressing like one are the oppressors, not corporate America nor the White Man. Just saying…
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jay
October 13th, 2010
11:02 pm
south atlantan, how often do you hear about a white guy shooting someone for no reason? I ll never forget about the story of the football player walking home after practice who died for no reason. Not only was the kid good at football but was smart and had offers to go to Harvard and other good schools. So he’s waiting and another kid walks up to him, who happens to be black, puts a gun in the football players face and demands money. football player says he doesn’t have any money. Other kid shoots and kills him. the shooter is then arrested later after people heard him talking about killing the football player. the reason why he shot him, and i quote “I shot him because he didn’t have any money” what psycho does that. thats why people are afraid of south atlanta. not racist just saying. here’s the story.
http://www.atlantada.org/latestnews/pressreleases/052507.htm
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WeAllLose
October 13th, 2010
11:22 pm
I’m with Devil Dog. Yea though I walk through the valley of death—I marched across the parade deck at Parris Island, so the only fear I have now is layoffs.
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South Atlantan Forever at Heart
October 14th, 2010
9:37 am
Actually Jay, I know exactly which story you are referring to because the young man from Washington High School died in my sister’s arms. He was shot after she saw them having a conversation directly outside of her home. She closed the door an minutes later, the young man had been shot. I know this may sound coincidental but I promise it’s the truth. Now, as I said in earlier posts, I completely understand the fear factor in South Atlanta. The issue I have is the references made in posts to people who live in South Atlanta as a whole. Jay, my point goes back to exactly to the first sentence you began with “a white guy shooting someone for no reason”. Maybe you see it as no reason, but many of the young men have records at a young age. There are very limited or no positive role models and fathers in these areas. Much of the trouble these young men get into seriously limit the opportunities they have in the future. Chances for job opportunities are limited to none so cyclical crime is a way of life. Many times, people become immune to what they do to others (in all regions and socioeconomic classes). I’m not making excuses for the crime and the reason to shoot someone after you’ve robbed them is always puzzling but you don’t know if the state of mind. These are factors that must be taken into consideration. Maybe some of the people are just bad but it’s not accurate to assume people do things for no reason. I also said that people should be upfront with the words being used to reference blacks instead of saying thugs, hip-hop, and the like because they’re attempting to hide what’s obvious. And I’m speaking from experience not a visit. I’ve lived in the projects and been a troubled teen in and out of the justice system but was fortunate enough to have sports talent that took me away from that environment and I began to think and do differently.
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South Atlantan Forever at Heart
October 14th, 2010
9:47 am
And to JesusFreak, please read the post I wrote as I was clear in what I said. Just say who you are referring to and don’t call blacks names trying to use suggestive words. To your point, I do educate those in South Atlanta who are willing to listen to what I have to say. The tough part is that so many generations are so use to what they see in their surroundings that they thinks it’s normal. That’s why I said exposure is important. Many times, people only see what their eyes tell them. The parents don’t understand corporate or luxuries or the proper ways to conduct themselves so how are they going to teach their children this? I know it may sound like excuses but you would be surprised about the lessons earlier generations failed to teach and it’s passed on. Honestly, I feel the exact same way you do and I do understand and agree with the statistical references made. The difference is I don’t just see thing for what or how they are. The difference is that I understand and can recognize why.
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Reg
October 16th, 2010
1:02 pm
A GOP fundraiser.
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Jon
October 17th, 2010
7:38 pm
Jerome, AZ
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iRun
November 4th, 2010
1:11 am
Adventurous!
But only after age 30. Mostly because I was too poor before. And while poor 20-somethings often manage to travel, I was already married and had a kid by age 26. So, I didn’t fall in that group.
But, I travel a lot now for work. These are trips that are always international and commonly more than a week. So while during the week I am stuck in an office, I have that weekend to explore and explore I do…by myself or with someone from the local office, doesn’t matter.
And it’s translated home. Because now I earn nasty skymiles (I am DIAMOND status!) so whenever I have enough miles banked, my hubby and son and I book a flight to somewhere new.
Fun!
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TSA Sucks
November 10th, 2010
4:29 pm
Fees are the last thing I worry about. Thanks to the political gamesmanship of Michael Chertoff, former DHS secretary, his company is now making billions off the sale of virtual strip search machines that basically render you, your wife, your children, and your grandma naked for the perverts to see as you go through security. No clinical studies have been done on the radiation you are being exposed to so the potential for future cancer is always there too. If you “opt out”, be prepared for the gestapo to make a big deal and announce it very loudly so everyone can hear. Then be prepared to be sexually molested, not with the back of the hands anymore, but with the front of the hands feeling all over your breasts, testicles, butt crack, genital region, and that of your wife, grandma, young children, etc. If you refuse, expect to be interrogated for plenty of time and still not allowed to fly. If anyone else did such things they would be charged with child pornography, child molestation, or sexual battery and assault.
Thank goodness for the TSA. They have made flying miserable, hazardous to your health, and now obscene and demoralizing. For me, flying is over with until this TSA is shut down and american’s liberties and freedoms are restored. This is not about safety, it is about totalitarian control and the sheep are fed up – finally.
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Mystic White
November 15th, 2010
12:17 am
good article to read.Thanks.
Mystic White
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say what?
November 16th, 2010
11:07 am
I agree with TSA sucks. The gestapo like tactics of the TSA has made travel from a US airport not likely for me in the near future. I have heard that some pilots organizations have filed suit over the new search requirements that have been put in place. Too bad the US doesn’t have a high speed rail system as an alternative to flying. Road trips within a reasonalbe distance from home will be the focus of my vacation plans.
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Greg D.
November 17th, 2010
7:11 am
I won’t be flying until the body scanners are removed from the airports. If the body scanners persist, we (people who still believe in the right to be secure from warrantless searches) may just organize a boycott of a particular airline. I estimate that a 20% drop in passengers would be enough to drive any airline into bankruptcy.
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Michael
November 17th, 2010
11:00 am
I won’t be flying , or doing much of anything else that might require this type of intrusive screening. The scanners are reported to give excessive amounts of radiation which I believe may well prove to be harmful in the long term. If anyone wants to “touch my junk” they had better have a good medical or love interest reason to do so.
It is my belief that this enhanced screening is not so much about safety as it is about causing the airlines to “fail” so that the government can take them over much as they did GM.
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Vera
November 17th, 2010
12:21 pm
I do not know how it will be possible to avoid one or the other security measures, I have to fly.
Virtual or not they both pose some risks, the pat down is nothing else than a physical violation with no excuse of pre-existing reasons to be searched in such a way, usually reserved for suspected criminals. I cannot predict how I would take a pat down, with ptsd for sexual abuse, this could feel rather traumatic.
I often wondered if all these security measures are misdirected or focused only at Airports diverting attention to other possible terrorist targets.
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James
November 17th, 2010
2:06 pm
Hey if you don’t like it, drive.
EL Al out of Israel has no problems…
The USA people need to toughen up
and get use to it… Its life in the
new global world..
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bhorsoft
November 17th, 2010
2:11 pm
Last time I flew was this past January. I’m somewhat handicapped and have difficulty removing my shoes. TSA folks were courteous, but I was diverted to separate lines and was swabbed down (shoes and hands) to check for explosives. It took a lot of time to go through security. I flew out of Tel Aviv Lod airport in the early 1970s – a year after terrorists shot up the airport and hijacked a plane. Security was extremely tight then, but not near as tight as security in US airports now.
These days, I avoid flying as much as possible, preferring to drive. Between the junk fees the airlines are charging, the shrinking amount of leg room on the planes, and the security hassles, I prefer to drive. The only reasons I’ll fly now are if I have to get there quicker than I can drive, or if it is impossible to drive there – like to Europe or Asia.
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Northside Native
November 17th, 2010
2:15 pm
Don’t you think profiling makes a lot more sense? Is it really necessary to go to these extremes so that we do not “offend” those with known terroristic tendencies?
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BC
November 17th, 2010
2:18 pm
I only travel by plane for pleasure so no, I will not be submitting to Big Brother and this gross invasion of modesty.
My new motto will be one we all familiar with “See the USA in a Chevrolet”.
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EMMA
November 17th, 2010
2:18 pm
I can’t understand what’s the big deal with a full body scanner for security purposes. Does it make you sick? Does it through off radioactive rays? Does it show the flowers on my panties? Ohhhh, I don’t wear underwear so does it reveal that I don’t have any on? LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! At this age I don’t give a poop if it’s not detrimental to my health, tell me where do I stand!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
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iRan
November 17th, 2010
2:22 pm
Can’t get transoceanic without flying and have to get transoceanic for work. So I will be flying.
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EMMA
November 17th, 2010
2:22 pm
Ohhhhhh and by the way if there are people refusing to fly because they don’t want to be subjected to the scanner GOOD!!!! Now maybe I can get on fligts that are always booked at times I want to travel!!!!!
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blkshephered
November 17th, 2010
2:24 pm
There is No law that says you have to fly. If your so worried about your lil privacy as if some one wants to see it( eyes rolling) you have a choice. DONT FLY. Hopefully by you and others opting out it will make the lines smaller. If its that much of a big deal. Take your car, bus, train, boat. But dont FLY. because the first time theres a security breach. the same folks complaining will be screaming they didnt properly search everyone. Americans cry and whine like babies constantly. If you have a problem with being searched..Keep your azz out the airlines. Drive, Walk, take a train, rent a boat. But stay out the airlines because they are NOT going to risk low security so you can feel like your privacy hasent been violated.
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EMMA
November 17th, 2010
2:27 pm
@ blkshephered: I’ll drink to that!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL You took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!!
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BC
November 17th, 2010
2:30 pm
You know, if we really had security I would submit to it, but this crap we have now is useless.
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DMac
November 17th, 2010
2:33 pm
Neither myself, nor any of my family will fly until this foolishness is stopped. Profile those likely to be terrorists, search and x-ray them. Why should everyone be inconvenienced for the potential actions of a very few?
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shaggy
November 17th, 2010
2:38 pm
Sure, then don’t fly.
It is not your right to fly.
If this stops a wretched terrorist from getting their virgins, by blowing up a plane with some “junk” in their “junk”, I say it’s worth it.
Just how would you feel if, some nutcase fanatic took down an airliner, with some C4 stashed with their “junk”?
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Grump
November 17th, 2010
2:39 pm
Count me in the non-flying group. If enough of us object, maybe the airlines will feel the pinch in their pocketbook and put some pressure on their bought-and-paid-for legislators and bureaucrats to get things changed.
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songbird
November 17th, 2010
2:56 pm
I just put up with it because I have to fly. I would rather be scanned than have someone putting their hands on me. I am a bit concerned about the radiation though. They need to let people know what the risk is.
Unfortunately, this is the price we have to pay to attempt to stop the wrong people from getting on a plane
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shaggy
November 17th, 2010
3:01 pm
If this extra layer of security is removed, and a plane goes down, you non-flying whiners, would be the first, and loudest, to screech “they should have done more, they should have done more”
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It's all politics
November 17th, 2010
3:04 pm
EL Al also have guards with machine guns openly displayed at every turn. We depend on the jobs program called the TSA. I think there is more oversight in the security dept at Macy’s. Do what casinos do…..have competent people watching cameras monitors and knowing who people are so they can diffuse a situation or grab someone if need be. Until this country gets the stomach to speak openly about what and who the threat is we are no better off. The clueless person at the top of the escalator at the airport doesn’t make me feel any better.
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Ziza
November 17th, 2010
3:10 pm
I was subjected to the new pat down about a week ago. I can tell you that it felt invasive and uncomfortable. I am not a prude and I’m pretty ok with security measures to help ensure safety. The TSA person was rude and did not tell me what she was doing or that this was the new pat down procedure. when I realized that she was doing things that others had never done, I realized what was going on. I would have much preferred that she had told me ahead of time that this was the new pat down and had explained where she was going to pat and why as others TSAs have done, especially since this pat down involved other semiprivate areas. Honestly, I really did feel violated. And again I’m as about un-squeamish as it gets….
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$9 per hour TSA Agent
November 17th, 2010
3:11 pm
I look forward to “seeing” all of you! It’ll make my day!
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FAMUAKA
November 17th, 2010
3:18 pm
It’s a two-sided situation. I hate the hassel w/ security whenever I fly w/ my dughters(4yr old/9yr old) because of the timimg going through the security check point. When I fly alone I’m ok because it’s just me. On the other hand, you want to feel protected and safe when flying. The full body scanners and the pat-downs, I feel that’s a little too much.
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ALAN OUIMET
November 17th, 2010
3:18 pm
We should do as EL AL does. Profile. Get rid of this idea of polictical correctness. If you are looking for people from the Middle East … your are not going to check a grandmother by the name of O’Shea who doesn’t even have a passport. Profiling has always worked in criminal investigations. The FBI does an expert job at it in its behavioral science unit. This is not rocket science…it only becomes complicated when the decision is made, typically by the govt, that one shoe fits all.
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FAMUAKA
November 17th, 2010
3:19 pm
oops! I msispelled daughters…I know how to spell:-)
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FAMUAKA
November 17th, 2010
3:22 pm
Oops! I did it again! The problem is that I can’t type…lol
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Richard
November 17th, 2010
3:30 pm
James,
“Hey if you don’t like it, drive.
EL Al out of Israel has no problems…”
Are you kidding? El-Al completely rejected these electronic strip searchers. You can get through an airport in Israel in 10 minutes.
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Enough Already
November 17th, 2010
3:34 pm
Hey James, you must be one of those pervs that works for the TSA.
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JohnnyReb
November 17th, 2010
3:37 pm
All this hoopla and tremendous expense could be avoided if America would simply ditch political correctness, profile, and make airlines responsible for their own security. The TSA (thousands standing around) is another shinning example of big government failure.
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budman
November 17th, 2010
3:42 pm
I am stripping down to my boxers and ” T ” shirt…name one time TSA ( thousands standing around ) has stopped any thing in the US that was related to an attempt. Oh..some guy named Faruk from Somalia…let him through he’s OK. The only thing more stupid than this is our leader on home land security Ms. Janet…she doesn’t even fly commercial aircraft. Oh be patient..let them run their hand down your pants bitch.
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Enough Already
November 17th, 2010
3:46 pm
My 83-year-old white anglo-saxon mother gets felt up by the TSA pervs, and in the meantime, the mail bombs are flying safe and sound.
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Bubba
November 17th, 2010
4:03 pm
I have no problem with a full body scanner. It’s a lot less exposure than in the junior high PE locker room when I actually was sensitive enough to give a rip. We all have basically the same equipment, version M or version F. Get over it.
I also have absolutely no problem with profiling, though we should not be so complacent as to rely on that. The terrorists can recruit people who grew up in the US and can easily “pass.” Thus, though parts of my family have been here since the Mayflower, I grudgingly go along with the security routine without complaint.
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Bubba
November 17th, 2010
4:03 pm
This is war. Get over it.
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ss
November 17th, 2010
4:47 pm
Very interesting article and even more interesting responses. My family is Egyptian (I’m 1st generation American). I’ve been involved in designing and implementing a mulititude of security systems (including the “backscatter” technology) and DoD initiatives across the US, Europe, and the Middle East. I can safely say that these technologies we’re implementing are ineffective (and especially if not installed at every airport). The only useful and effective mechanism is profiling and having background information on passengers before they step into that security line. Being groped for an explosive device is a bit late when standing in the vicinity of several hundred other passengers. Having non-qualified personnel grope for explosives in a public location is indicative of a policy developed by those who either have no idea what they are doing or do not expect to find anything; because, seriously, God help the others in the vicinity if they did. The only way to do this is to profile (Israel has got it right) and allow travellers to opt in to having background checks prior to airport arrival.
The FlyClear initiative was excellent and I was a member (as many clearances as I have had, I figured the govt knows everything about me, anyway). I was sad to see FlyClear go bankrupt and would join another similar initiative in a heartbeat.
These machines are mostly safe… but they are not always. Just like every other type of radiation generator, there are several levels of intensity that are controlled automatically based on how well the current analysis is progressing. I can tell you without doubt that the design cranks the output levels up very high in the case that a good scatter return is not received. This can be for a variety of reasons including humidty, temperature, and clothing material. These levels are absolutely unsafe for anyone of any health (but deemed an acceptable design compromise for the sake of making the delivery schedule).
I must say that there is nothing more frustrating to me than watching an 80 yr old woman selected for a random patdown/search instead of me. Almost as frustrating is me being selected for a random/search when I know that much of the technology I’m staring at is based on designs/implementations that I worked on. If the TSA saw my background file, they would not waste their time… so why can’t they? Privacy? Laughable based on the lack of concern for current privacy…
Bottom-line – this is a misplaced policy promoting fear and speculation. The truth of the matter is that our net is only stopping good people of all nationalities and religions. There are not that many bad people and it takes intelligence to find them – not groping or scanning with useless technologies that are not installed at every airport. The reason for our government’s current policies is a combination of ignorance, arrogance, and putting contract dollars in the hands of corporations with the best lobbyists.
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budman
November 17th, 2010
8:27 pm
It is easy to spot the people who never fly,,they all for giving up their rights. I flew over 9000 miles and drove over 1200 miles and it was a light year. How many times do I have to endure this BS. My wife has a secret clearance from the same government that for some reason doesn’t trust her now. Why don’t they frisk,scan, grope her every time she enters a federal building to go to work..Oh that’s right!! there is no large federal contract involved..BTW when the camera is rolling and the news media is there, they only barely brush your body, when they aren’t around I would of been slapped in high school for those liberties to a girls body…but it’s same sex !! can you say Gay…these people( TSA ) are perverts even wanting the job. They touch my grand daughters I’ll break your face.
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winkasdad29
November 18th, 2010
9:33 am
I opt out of flying right now. Except for emergencies, this is how I’m traveling from now on:
- I’ll drive trips of 8 hours or less
- If I’m going to Orlando, Tampa or South Florida, I’m taking Red Coach USA luxury bus. Only 27 seats on the coach. Nice wide reserved seats that recline to 150 degrees. Leg and foot rests, tray tables, free wi-fi, onboard movies, and AC outlets at every seat. You do not board at the Greyhound station ’cause this ain’t Greyhound. For more info, visit redcoachusa.com
- If I’m going to the Northeast, It’s Amtrak. Me and Winkasmom will get a sleeper and make a romantic night out of it. Leave Atlanta around 8:30 PM, arrive in Washington around 9:30 AM, New York around 2:00 PM. If I need to be in NY faster, we’ll transfer to Acela Express which will get us into NY around 12:30 PM.
Yeah, it takes longer – so what. I beleive that your vacation begins once you quit work. It should not be work to fly – but it is. Traveling should be an enjoyable part of your vacation experience. Flying is no longer enjoyable.
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Gayla
November 18th, 2010
1:58 pm
Terroist have gotten exactly what they want or should I say the government, make the Americans live in fear so we can strip them of their rights. Scanners are not fool proof they are just the opposite give them enough comfort to become sloppy!!!!!! If they worked Israel would use them. This is a sad new century — wake up people you are being strip searched and if you do not go for the strip search your privates are going to be felt up to humiliate you and basically force you into the strip search- not to mention the adverse health effects these scanners have on your body. The patriot act simply was used to take away your rights. All at the price of 50% taxation WOW here we all just sit by and let it happen, I am ashamed. There is nothing about terroists that threaten us more then our own government feeding us these fears to put us in a cattle chute. Shame on you Shame on me and Shame on us.
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Gayla
November 18th, 2010
2:24 pm
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Vera
November 19th, 2010
12:15 am
We all have such different values and even our reactions to the scanners and pat downs are so varied like people are in effect. We all have our points of view, but one thing stands for a fact: we are now stripped of our liberty, perhaps even lied to, distracted by this massive effort with airline security like it was the only or most probable way for the terrorists to commit some very awful acts ending in tragedies.
Here is where I do not see much “intelligence” from the higher ups, as they seem to lack complete respect for us individuals.
We are so infinitely different and yet we all are supposed to go through the same and only security check like there was not even the slightest concern for our individuality, our rights, not to mention that we are also innocent.
This method can become a precedent for a more widespread abuse. It’s truly sad, like the day George W. Bush became president for the first time, my heart sank in my stomach realizing we were starting to go back to a time of repression.
On behalf of the majority of the TSA people who are working also to make a living, I do not think they have a choice to act differently, it must be very hard for many of them to pat, touch, feel people, who are complete strangers to them. Probably in their minds they never imagined they would have to do something of this nature. For many of them the new method could be felt as an imposition, or abuse over their initial contract agreements. I wonder too what kind of job description they have at this point, and the weight of a huge institution upon their heads who is requiring they fullfill their duties…wow…we are pretty much all f….d up!
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Susan
November 19th, 2010
10:01 pm
I won’t fly again. The body scan probably wouldn’t work for me as I have several joint replacements in my body – both metal and plastic. I also walk with the aid of metal crutches. I’d set off all the bells and whistles so they’d make me do the pat-down. As a rape victim there’s no way I could do that intense pat-down (assault) without getting hysterical. So no, I’ll not fly again. Fortunately for me there’s little need to ever fly so no one is really losing money from my decision.
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Susan
November 19th, 2010
10:02 pm
I’ve been seeing mention of Muslim women being exempt from all this. I wish there was factual information being reported so we know what’s going on. If they are exempt will nuns also be?
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Susan
November 19th, 2010
10:05 pm
I was a government employee many many years. I don’t believe the claim that the machines cannot store pictures/images. I also don’t believe there won’t be TSA employees copying images with their cell phones or other equipment. It’s only a matter of time before images will be posted online. I feel especially bad for famous people – what pervert wouldn’t want a naked image of the current famous celebrity. I wonder if the magazine rags are approaching TSA employees with money offers yet.
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Susan
November 19th, 2010
10:06 pm
Why are members of congress exempt? Are their families exempt? If so, there’s no way on earth they should be exempt. I want to see the faces of our congress as their wives and children and mothers are groped/assaulted by TSA.
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Brad
November 21st, 2010
9:12 am
You whine for safety, then you whine when it’s implemented.
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hdhd
November 21st, 2010
9:21 am
I have been done for a while. We drive nearly 3,000 miles round trip every year to avoid flying. It used to be rude airlines, crappy service, baggage fees. Add these new naked body scanners and legalized sexual assault, it is a no brainier.
I fly for business, but I don’t have as much say in that.
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Deirdre
November 21st, 2010
9:35 am
B-shep…sorry sweetie, you know how much I love you but I completely disagree. The phrase “if you don’t like it don’t fly” is crap. This is the USA. We have laws against illegal searches. The ONLY reason we are going through this is because we refuse to profile! Americans who fly are being treated like common criminals because we refuse to profile. Children are being searched. BUT, are Muslim women in full Muslim garb being searched? Can you imagine the outrage if a TSA agent put his/her hands into the underwear of a Muslim woman???????
Many people HAVE to fly as part of their jobs. Should they be searched or x-rayed every frickin time they get on a plane? EVERY week???? And what about people who work on planes? The pilots have recently been given a pass but have the flight attendants? Should they be scanned as much as 5 times a week?
The claims that the body scans are safe have not been proven or verified other than “the gov’t says so”.
When did we become a nation of sheep?
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Deirdre
November 21st, 2010
9:39 am
Brad….this isn’t “safety”. Israel knows how to keep terrorists off their planes WITHOUT the stupidity.
This is like a classroom full of second graders being punished for the actions of one of the kids.
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Deirdre
November 21st, 2010
9:45 am
And that comment from the gov’t…”if you don’t like it don’t fly”…….doesn’t that sound just a teensy bit like the neighborhood bully declaring….if you don’t like it don’t walk on this side of the street????
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BillS
November 21st, 2010
9:47 am
I’ve been a frequent flier, but not in the last 5 years as my job schedule has changed. Thank goodness. Flying is now my last resort. I’ll drive, take the train or even use the bud to avoid flying. I’m not scared — I’m just frustrated with the hassles and the long additional hours it takes to get to the airport, fly and get back. Until there are big changes in aviation — and I don’t see that coming — I will be flying only if I absolutely have no choice.
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JeC
November 21st, 2010
9:59 am
I have two artificial knees, which set off the alarms every time. I am also a senior citizen who occasionally has taken my VERY elderly, wheelchair bound, mother traveling with me. There is no way I could opt for scanner-only, and no way she could stand with her arms outstretched. I will not subject a 95 year old to groping, and will not visit my distant children and grandchildren myself until some sanity returns.
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I'll be happy to see the weak leave
November 21st, 2010
10:12 am
I want to fly with the peace of mind that no idiots have come on board with explosives up there keester.
I won’t penalize my career by not submitting to the searches.
I won’t penalize my grandchildren or children by boycotting the airways.
This is the new world – suck it up and live with it.
See you at Hartsfield, and if not – I’ll enjoy the extra room!
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Dear Deirdre
November 21st, 2010
10:14 am
it’s not a RIGHT to fly. It’s a choice. Happy trails on Greyhound honey
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Papa
November 21st, 2010
10:19 am
The gay and lesbian TSA screeners must be in hog heaven right about now. Paid to feel up same sex travelers. And nothing anyone can do about it since complaining would be considered discrimination.
Those of you who are willing to allow the government to do anything with/to you in the name of “security”: enjoy it next time your screener looks up at you and smiles with a little gleam in his eye while he has a firm grasp on your crotch.
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Abolish the TSA !
November 21st, 2010
10:42 am
I last flew a little over a month ago when I saw airports in cities such as Atlanta and Miami were quietly installing those “naked body scanners.” Having read about them months before through The Drudge Report site, I recognized them instantly.
I am 125% Conservative Republican, but George W. Bush should burn in Eternal Flame for creating this abomination known as the Department of Homeland STUPIDITY and empowering these TSA morons to rob us of our freedoms. Ronald Reagan would never had allowed this nonsense to happen.
Burn in Hell, TSA!
I will NOT be flying again until the TSA and abolished and the goons working for it are restored to their rightful place behind the airport Burger King counter.
If that means I never pay another dime for a commercial airline ticket for the rest of my life, then so be it. I’ll see Delta go the way of Eastern Airlines before I get will allow myself to get bossed around like a prison inmate by another TSA simpleton with a 3rd-grade readlng level.
“Big Sis” in Washington can kiss my Big @$$. Frankly, so can every empowered politician currently in DC with a vested financial interest in the company making those full-body scanners.
The 2012 Presidential Candidate who makes ending this nonsense a cornerstone of their platform is the one who will get my vote.
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atlin83
November 21st, 2010
10:56 am
I’ve taken Amtrak twice – once to Alabama, once to California. Limited schedules aside, it’s been well worth the extra travel time. I avoid flying whenever I can if I’m going somewhere on the Crescent – serving points between New Orleans and New York City.
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Drew
November 21st, 2010
11:31 am
The question to ask is, after years of groping, probing, searching, digging, shoe removal, and all the shampoo and nail clipper confiscations, has the TSA ever actually CAUGHT a terrorist at the gate? If they have, it’s a pretty well-kept secret.
Who do these people work for?
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Angela
November 21st, 2010
11:55 am
I have decided (after thoroughly researching) that I prefer prior background checks and profiling over unreliable body scanners, pervs, and pat downs. I say we keep the bombers out of the airport all together, not wait until they are amongst thousands of people in the security area.
I realize people have to fly for jobs and such; people have a right to complain. BUT, the airs have to be safe, so you have to decide: Unreliable scanners, pat downs by pervs, quarterly background checks by your government, or discriminating profiling. So those who complain about invasions of privacy, what do you propose? For those of you who prefer to wait for the terrorist to get to the airport, and be caught by our hero $9/hr TSA agents, what do you propose? Contrary to popular belief, Americans CANNOT have their cake and eat it too.
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justmy2cents
November 21st, 2010
12:05 pm
So all you have to do is board a plane from an airport that does not have these scanners, and connect through Atlanta, and voila, you can avoid these “precautions” and “security” measures. You can still blow up anything you please. Nice. And since everyone is not scanned with these, or the pat downs, you are not ensuring security at all….sooooo, umm, wtf is the point? C4 will not set off a metal detector and you can breeze right through. Why not save all the money on TSA and scanners and invest in drug & explosive sniffing dogs? At least they can’t steal stuff out of your bags while you are not looking.
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Deal with it
November 21st, 2010
12:31 pm
I love to hear all the complaints. It means I’m safe on the plane. I will let you check all you want- and if you keep some lunatic from sending my flight down in a ball of flames… I’m happy.
Here’s an idea. 99% of terrorists are muslim males between 18 and 30 years old. Cut the crap of random searches and focus on the segment of the population that is most likely to want to kill us. Screw the terrorist loving ACLU.
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Deal with it
November 21st, 2010
12:35 pm
@Abolish the TSA…
I vote that anyone suspected of wanting to blow up a plane have to sit next to you on the next flight. No one cares what you look like on the naked body scanners. We just care that we arrive safely. Homeland security was developed after terrorists flew planes into buildings and killed thousands of people, remember? Shut up and go back to your liberal campsite.
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Our Government Can Do All Our Thinking for Us!
November 21st, 2010
12:42 pm
TO: Deal with it @ 12:35 pm on 11-21-2010
How does it feel to be a sheep?
Does it feel all nice & safe to wrap that government “security blanket” around you?
You don’t miss those pesky freedoms at all, do you?
Are you hoping to get promoted to “supervisor” at your TSA job with your nice shirt?
Do you get a good price for your fleece at this time of year, Little Sheep?
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Katz
November 21st, 2010
12:50 pm
I am fine with a pat down or the milimeter wave scanners. No X-ray for me though. Also, how about having separate lines so that folks can pick their poison in advance, rather than having to argue with the TSA. This was we can put the TSA “specialists” who know how to do a polite and sensitive pat down in the line for the folks who will accept no other form of screening.
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Former Flyer
November 21st, 2010
12:59 pm
I do not fly any more. Every where my family and I go we drive. Flying has gotten way out of hand….ESPECIALLY those extremely high airline ticket prices….it’s crazy enough that MOST airlines charge you a min. of $25 per bag…now they are gate-raping you at the airport before you are allowed to go to your gate to leave….I will stick to the old fashioned way of driving!
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jabster
November 21st, 2010
1:06 pm
Yeah, I have no right to fly. And Delta, AirTran, etc. have no right to stay in business. And their employees have no right to a job.
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jabster
November 21st, 2010
1:08 pm
Maybe I’ll wear a Speedo under my clothes and strip before getting in the TSA line.
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Angela
November 21st, 2010
1:16 pm
@ Deal with it…..why should we all have to wait until the airport before we find the terrorist? Does TSA really make you feel THAT safe? What happens when a bomber decides to blow up the masses waiting in the security lines? Providing you survive, would you still feel so safe?
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Drew
November 21st, 2010
6:35 pm
Benjamin Franklin is quoted as saying “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” Now that may be a bit idealistic, but in any decision-making process, you have to weigh cost against benefits… and I think this new gropefest by the TSA may have made the cost to fly too high. Unless it’s an emergency, it’s too much of a hassle to fly anymore.
And if muslim women are indeed granted an exemption from this, Napolitano should be fired immediately.
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Susan
November 21st, 2010
6:53 pm
For those writing we should just deal with it, it’s needed for security… will you feel the same next year when they add body cavity searches? Seems the best way now to carry on explosives is not just in your underwear but in the vagina or anus. Will you continue to baa baa for the government when the search includes bending over for a search of your rear end? Where does it stop for you? For me, it has stopped now.
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M. Peach Mint
November 23rd, 2010
5:25 pm
In the November 2012 Presidential Election, I will help “King Obama” OPT OUT of the Presidency.
Hopefully, Congress will help that jive-talking thug OPT OUT well before then.
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Paige
November 28th, 2010
3:25 pm
There is nothing better than Christmas in the South. The Parade of Boats is definitely a treat if you have never been to it so I can appreciate you including it in this “list”. Most people also would not think of Key West at Christmas time because, well, most people associate Christmas with cold weather and snow (not warm weather and the beach). I have always heard of the holiday celebration(s) Key West offers in terms of lights and events, but have never actually been myself.
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Babs
December 22nd, 2010
1:02 pm
We should be so lucky. We need a white Christmas.
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Reine
December 22nd, 2010
1:12 pm
Right now, weather.com is reporting rain/snow mix during the day on the 25th and snow showers during the night. I’m sure that’s based off of one of the thousands of forecast models out there, but it’s exciting nonetheless! Who will be traveling on Christmas night anyways? I’d hope everyone will be where they need to be by Christmas day. I’d think that ice/snow/rain would do more damage if it took place on the 23rd, 24th or the 26th when people are really traveling. Having snow falling and accumulating on Christmas day would be fabulous.
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Theresa Walsh Giarrusso
January 7th, 2011
1:34 am
I want to do this cruise Keith!!! WE should all go and take the kids. Michael said I could enjoy it with my parents. He’s not going!! What a pooper! It looks like so much and I want to do it before they are too old for it!!
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mrsbanks
January 9th, 2011
1:47 pm
My husband & I are taking our 3 kids, ages 10, 7 & 4 on this cruise in October and I cannot wait!! They have no idea yet because we know if we told them now, they’d worry us to death for the next 9-1/2 months!! Sounds so exciting!!!
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tabb
January 9th, 2011
2:26 pm
Going in May and can’t wait. Sounds like a blast and the kids are excited.
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michael
January 9th, 2011
3:27 pm
going n april with my girlfriend. HAVEN’T TOLD MY WIFE YET.
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Bronwyn Hogan
January 9th, 2011
4:32 pm
Disney is not just for kids. There are adult only areas. My sister (67), my niece (44) and I (61) cruised about the Wonder last April. We have three cabins booked on the Dream with 8 females ages 12-68.in May.
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still@the bar
January 9th, 2011
7:35 pm
I have been on 2 cruises would never do it again. I had to go on the second one or I wouldn’t have done that one. Maybe being Disney there will not be as many Drunks. People just Drank and Gambled. The food wasn’t that good and the shows are just ok. I hope the Diseny experience makes all the difference.
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Call it like it is
January 9th, 2011
8:27 pm
If you haven’t been on a Disney Cruise, you have not been on a cruise. They treat the kids like Gods, tons of stuff to do, Great shows, Great movies. Not sure about this new ship because it is just as big as the other ones out there, but the first 2 Disney ships are much smaller then the standard ones. Much more personnel. No gambling allowed and the adult areas are well hidden. Heck trying to find the sports bar was an adventure in itself. One bad thing, be prepared to sell a kidney.
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Browncoat
January 9th, 2011
8:39 pm
A cruise ship is like a prison that can sink.
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January 12th, 2011
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Snowed in Educator
January 13th, 2011
9:36 pm
Searching for cruises for Spring Break now, that is, if they don’t take ‘em from us as snow days.
I would love to someday venture to the South Pacific, say like Tahiti, Fiji, or Bora Bora
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science teacher
January 13th, 2011
11:13 pm
My dream trip is a trip to London and Paris. I want to see Stonehenge, Bath, Stratford-on-Avon, Oxford, Leeds, and many sights in and around Paris. I have dreamed of going there since I was young. When asked to choose a non-food reward for weight loss, I chose a London and Paris trip. I lost 170 lbs. I have earned the reward, but due to the economy, I cannot afford to go this year. Next year is the London Olympics, so I will not be going then (too expensive and crowded). Maybe by 2013, I can afford my reward.
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Joe
January 13th, 2011
11:21 pm
Right now, anywhere it’s 75 degrees plus and there’s a nice warm ocean nearby. Anywhere but here.
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Alfred
January 15th, 2011
4:13 pm
Anywhere but Atlanta, except one cannot fly in or out of Atlanta airport because we have a city that is unprepared for snow. I have written to Delta airlines and begged them to seek another hub city. Atlanta airport is an embarrassment to travel.
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janet
January 16th, 2011
1:12 pm
Any one who can’t cope with a few days of snow and lack of conveniences should never leave their driveway and go anywhere. Once you do, you are not in control anymore. Best to watch travel on TV in your recliner chair.
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Panic@theFox
January 23rd, 2011
11:47 am
WIDESPREAD PANIC @ the Fox theatre on V-Day night is the obvious answer!
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YES!!!!!
January 26th, 2011
2:12 pm
surprised no one else has commented. yes, if you truly want to know if you are compatible with someone then take an extended trip with them.
i spent a week in maine with someone i was involved in a long distance relationship with, and that was enough time for us to realize that a full time, same place relationship would not work.
also spent a week traveling in the U.K. with (at the time) a couple of good friends. i now spend much more time with one than the other.
neediness, unflexibility, and a lack of an open mind while traveling seems to be a sign that i am not going to enjoy being around that person when not traveling.
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charliecole
January 27th, 2011
4:42 pm
investment advice at http://www.hotstockbuys.blogspot.com
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John Rocker(former Braves pitcher)
January 29th, 2011
3:20 pm
nigs
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Noway Hose
February 2nd, 2011
8:31 am
WHERE ARE ALL THE AL GORE STORIES OF GLOBAL WARMING NOW????
OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT, THE STATE RUN MEDIA ONLY DOES THOSE ARTICLES WHEN WE REACH RECORD HIGH TEMPS.
THATS WHY THEY CALL IT GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE NOW, AFTER ALL WE ALL NEED HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!
sO,IF YOU BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE IN TAXES, AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT CHANGE IS ALL ABOUT!
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mike
February 2nd, 2011
11:59 am
What a pathetic comment. You obviously watch too much FOX News and listen to too much Rush Limbaugh. Sounds like you’ve been brainwashed also. Think for yourself for once.
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q1
February 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
There at it again, my comments are not reacing print.
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February 5th, 2011
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Legend of Len Barker
February 13th, 2011
6:48 pm
I’m from Berrien County, so I know Enigma quite personally. They don’t sell souvenirs or anything, so you might want to skip that one. Then again, we do need the money. If you keep going a few more miles east, you’ll hit Alapaha, which is the home of Hogzilla. A few minutes more east is Willacoochee, home of the winner of Lewis Grizzard’s best bar in Georgia (No-Name).
Metro folks need to hit up Burke County, especially Gough (rhymes with cough). You’ll appreciate your lives a lot more. Burke is the poorest place I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been through 155 of the 159 counties.
Most disappointing? Pony Express. I was hoping for more than two convenience stores and a crossroads.
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February 15th, 2011
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February 16th, 2011
5:54 am
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Mac
February 16th, 2011
9:34 am
Great article on Spring Break destinations — thanks. Our favorite Spring Break destination is the Gatlinburg area (including Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, which your article discusses) and The Gatlinburg Lodge at SmokyMountainViews.com . Great for large families, youth groups, church retreats, etc., due to its large size (over 4,000 sq ft), awesome views of the Smoky Mountains, amazing game room, hot tub, etc. About 10 miles from Downtown Gatlinburg, and about 15 miles from Dollywood Amusement Park, which your article also covered, in Pigeon Forge.
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February 16th, 2011
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Marcy
February 16th, 2011
11:43 pm
We are splurging and going to Paris. Usually it’s St George Island. We decided to go about 5 months ago and bought our plane tickets around Thanksgiving. I am a teacher so we will be going in the beginning of April. We can’t wait!
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the easter bunny
February 20th, 2011
12:13 pm
I want to spring break Martinique, that is where the Jumbo Jets come right in a few feet off the beach. And when they blast off the back force throws you right into the ocean, it does not get any better than that. All of the above being said, I am going to take a “virtual” vacation, I’ll do it all online. That is how I hunt, when the deer trots across the screen I lock on it with my mouse and “click” the deer is history, then they dress and butcher it, wrap it and send it to me, it does not get any better than that, not necessarily for the deer.
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13.1
February 20th, 2011
1:18 pm
We’re headed to our favorite beach, Seaside, FL. I run the half marathon there each year and it’s a great way to tie a vacation into a race!
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observor
February 20th, 2011
1:39 pm
Colorado has become our preferred spring break destination by a long shot. Absolutely nothing beats skiing at some of the best ski resorts in the world in early March, when the weather is usually sunny and pleasant. I would rather spend a day skiing then a day at the beach any day. A good spot to consider is the Frisco, CO area, as you are right in the middle of four major ski resorts (Copper, Breckenridge, Keystone, and Arapahoe Basin). Of course, you could always consider going to the much more trendy, crowded, and expensive resorts of Vail or Aspen. Other great resorts to consider are Steamboat, Telluride, and Winter Park.
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February 23rd, 2011
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Frank Rudd
February 24th, 2011
8:28 am
My wife and I love Cancun’s all-inclusive vacations. Their all-inclusive rates includes tips also. Our favorite resort is the Cancun Palace Resorts. The all-inclusive rate allows you to eat and enjoy the ammenities at all of the Palace properties in Cancun. My advise for all-inclusive first-timers is to take the 2-hour property presentation to get free activities not covered in the all-inclusive package such as golf and spa services. You can also get resort bucks to purchase souvenirs in the gift shops.
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Marlon
February 25th, 2011
4:40 pm
We went to Sandals Ocho Rios for our honeymoon. Overall, we had a good time. Once you get off the plance and pass customs Sandals has a little waiting area for you with drinks and food which nice. However, there was a two hour bus ride from the Montego Bay airport to the resort. However, I think they just opened a new international airport closer to Sandals Ocho Rios so that drive time should be down dramatically now. You have to sit thru a quick little greeting/presentation when you get to the resort and they you are off to get checked into your room. The food was ok…..not spectacular….pretty much the same thing on the breakfast buffet everyday. The dinners…you had to dress up…..and you had to make sure you get reservations far in advance of the time that you wanted to go to dinner. Also, you had to “pay” for any type of excursion for example Jet Ski’s or tours so that’s something to consider if you go………
My recommendation……..if you want pretty much everything to be taken care of…then I would pick an all inclusive trip. However, if you want to plan different things and eat at a variety of places in the local area that you go to….just plan it yourself…. We really have gotten in the habit of utilizing trip advisor to plan our vacations because you can see pictures of the hotels where you will be staying and get reviews that will help you plan an awesome vacation……we have used trip advisor on every trip that we have been on and have not been dissapointed yet.
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Ernest
February 27th, 2011
8:03 pm
I have to agree with Frank, the Palace Resorts on the Mayan Riviera was a nice resort with many amenities. I compare that to Club Med in the Dominican Republic, which was a nice place but didn’t offer as much ‘off the compound’.
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Ed
February 28th, 2011
11:36 am
Where is the best place to book an all-inclusive vacation??
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justmy2cents
March 1st, 2011
2:29 pm
@ Ed
http://www.discount-all-inclusive.com best rates I can get when I travel, and no I don’t work for them. I always book the Couples Resorts in Jamaica, more inclusions than Sandals and no discrimination between booking levels. No wristbands to wear either!!
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Chip
March 2nd, 2011
8:43 am
Why is this surprising? I’m surprised the number was as high as it is.
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atlmom1
March 2nd, 2011
8:51 am
my kids have passports. We got them when we went on a cruise a few years ago, but then realized we didn’t need them. Just booked a trip to the dominican republic, so we’ll need them…and really, I do wish we could travel more – inside and outside the country!
The reality is that there are so many places to go as a US citizen, in the caribbean, etc…that that’s why some people don’t travel abroad.
At one of my jobs, a coworker had worked for delta for a long time (more than five years) and we all made fun of him since he still didn’t have his passport and had never been outside the country. It was quite amusing.
I’m glad we all have passports. And while we wouldn’t necessarily have to go somewhere quickly, and would probably not make plans to go anywhere quickly – they’re good to have. We only recently made the plans to go for spring break, so if we had to also get a passport for the kids – we wouldn’t have gone at all.
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youngfisher
March 2nd, 2011
8:55 am
Yes i have a passport… but only use it for cruises ( on Carnival ) out of Florida.. drive to, so no flying is involved… best bang for the $$$.. fun, food, gambling, shows, relaxing, wife likes it, etc… U.S. folks are realizing too much debt… saving $$$ so no need for expensive trips to Europe or Asia, etc…. flying has become more diificult too
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Techmom
March 2nd, 2011
9:07 am
You should also consider that in many countries (in Europe for example), countries are much smaller than than US so even traveling just a few hours requires a passport to cross into another country. The US is HUGE and we have tons of places to experience that don’t require you to leave the country. Think about how you can fly 3000 miles across the country and still be in the same country; try doing that in Europe. Plus until recently could visit Canada, Mexico and almost any Caribbean country without one. My husband and I have traveled out of the country numerous times and didn’t get passports until the rules changed for Mexico and the Caribbean. It’s simply more affordable to go somewhere close to home that doesn’t require a passport.
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iRun
March 2nd, 2011
9:30 am
I have one because I travel internationally for work. But I wouldn’t probably have one otherwise. Why? Because airfare for a family of 3 to cross an ocean would be cost-prohibitive, making it probably a once in a lifetime deal.
Because I do travel internationally for work I manage to rake in a lot of frequent flyer mileage, but we often use that to travel domestically because a domestic ticket will only cost ~50K freq flyer miles but a single international ticket is 150K, which is the total cost for the entire family to travel domestically.
Eventually, I’d like to save up enough freq flyer miles to take the whole family on one of my work trips where they can play tourist while I am in meetings all day.
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European Traveler
March 2nd, 2011
9:49 am
Techmom: Your no longer required to show a passport when crossing a border between any country that is a member of the EU where the “Euro” is traded. There are no more “Customs” stations at the border of these countries.
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Lenny
March 2nd, 2011
9:52 am
I’m not surprised that the number is 30% with passports. Some advice. Don’t wait around to renew a passport until the time to travel or the price of a ticket is “right”. There are times when opportunities for travel abroad occur unexpectedly and if you have to wait around for the passport to be renewed, the opportunity could be lost.
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Love to Travel
March 2nd, 2011
10:00 am
Have traveled to Canada and abroad several times. My passport has expired and will renew it when needed. Our travels keep us in the US as there is so…much to see here and places we have not yet visited. Flights are too long as well. It is insulting to say, give the UK a $1 and get about 60 pounds back. If we want to go to the islands, we will visit the Virgin Islands. I work for an international company and b/c of travel budgets, have stayed put for now. I choose to keep my travel dollars in the US. Once the dollar catches up, we may go back to Europe as I want to revisit Italy.
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Paige
March 2nd, 2011
10:05 am
My husband and I both have passports. We needed to get one for my son before we went on vacation last year and because his father and I are divorced, it was a pain in the A**. His dad wouldn’t sign the papers. My divorce papers state that I have physical and legal custody of my child and I sent those with the application. I ended up having to get a lawyer to help get his passport.
I think that all Amercians should have a passport….it could prove that you are an American citizen and entitled to be here.
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Ugly American
March 2nd, 2011
10:06 am
I’ve got a passport, but I don’t use it. Why go where people hate your guts anyway? I’d just as soon travel the United States.
And I’ve made it a personal goal to never spend a nickel in a country like France. They can kiss my American butt. I’d like to see Normandy, but that would be it. Maybe we could save a few bucks by moving the United Nations HQ to Paris!
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TSA Sucks
March 2nd, 2011
10:12 am
There may be a time when you need to get out of Dodge. Having a passport can make that possible, assuming the govnerment hasn’t already closed the door. Having another country’s passport is even better.
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Sean
March 2nd, 2011
10:35 am
Surprised, yes… but not really shocked.
If you have a family, the airfare alone is enough to make you think 2x about taking a trip overseas. It is just easier to take a trip to Orlando or Vegas.
I do have a passport, and I have used it to go to Europe and South America. Everyone should atleast travel out of the country once in their lives. It will give you a whole new perspective. I guess for many people, they need to wait until they retire or before they have kids to do so.
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David
March 2nd, 2011
10:52 am
I have an expired passport that will need to be renewed soon. It doesn’t surprise me at all that so few American’s don’t have passports. I didn’t get mine until I needed too, it is expensive to travel oversea’s and only recently was it a requirement to have one to go into Canada. So if you don’t live close to the border, or you are not making big plans, it is much more cost efficient to travel within the United States. It is simply economics and nothing more. At least that is how I see it.
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Belinda
March 2nd, 2011
12:53 pm
I would really like to see more Americans have the desire to travel outside the country. It would be good for our country if more people took part in the experience of international travel. It is expensive. But mainly I think people just don’t make it a priority. It’s too bad for our country that so many people are so isolated.
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David from Marietta
March 2nd, 2011
1:08 pm
I used to have a passport when I was a white-collar worker. It has since expired and I now drive a truck. I used to be able to cross from Canada back into the U.S. with a certified copy of my birth certificate. When I was a white-collar worker, my company would reimburse me for the cost of passport photos, my passport, and any visas I needed for company travel. The trucking company I work for will not reimburse me for the cost of renewing my passport. If they don’t feel it is so important for me to take loads into Canada that they’ll cover that cost, then I will not get a passport for their benefit.
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Jeremy
March 4th, 2011
6:51 am
I think there are alternatives to the reasons why Americans don’t travel abroad, and when I say alternatives I mean other ways around the excuses we give. I am in my 4th year with Delta and I’ve been around the world and am only 23, I’m leaving to Japan next weekend. There’s too many jobs that provide travel benefits, that takes care of the costs, but I honestly believe that we don’t travel because we’ve been given the perception that the world is this big scary place outside of the US, in every other country they hate Americans. We’ve been fed myths and it has made many people close their minds to other cultures and ways of living. I think it’s a sad life learning about other people from just reading them in books. This is why our country is so behind in most aspects, other countries encourage their citizens to come here, explore, learn, and guess what? They take that info back and recreate what we have and make it better.
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Johane
March 7th, 2011
10:48 am
I’m saddened that more Americans do not have passports. Visiting countries abroad is one of the most fulfilling things to happen in my life. In fact, my children had passports before they could talk. Exploring other cultures opens the world of possibilities for both children and adults. This year my passport will expire and I plan to renew it immediately. Even though we have not traveled abroad for 6 years now due to the high cost I remain ready once things turn around.
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Russ
March 7th, 2011
5:15 pm
I have held a passport since 1993 and recently renewed mine, receiving it in less than a week from when I mailed it. That suggested to me the demand for passports is relatively low right now, due to the economy. I didn’t get any stamps in my last passport and have been vexed to commit to any overseas trips now because they are so expensive. For every good airfare to Europe, you are guaranteed to pay various taxes on your ticket that will be in the hundreds of dollars.
For a family it gets exponentially more expensive to travel abroad. So I can see why we choose to stay home nowadays.
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KDAWG
March 9th, 2011
9:37 am
FIRST!
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KDAWG
March 9th, 2011
9:37 am
Oh, an probably not. If things get super crazy (i.e. $5/gal), then heck yes.
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BigDawg
March 9th, 2011
9:38 am
Will cut back in other areas to be able to travel
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joe
March 9th, 2011
9:58 am
Yes, I’m buying a motorcycle…the 80-miles per gallon is necessary now.
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Rich White Guy
March 9th, 2011
10:18 am
No change in plans here. I have so much money that the small increase in gas prices is negligible. My 10-mile-a-gallon landcruiser is like a living room on wheels. I love Sunday afternoon drives with no particluar place to go.
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Ezra
March 9th, 2011
10:19 am
Yep, my change of plan is to pass all the expenses onto the very elite. I will increase prices little for the middleclass but the wealthy and the politicians I will increase by huge amounts. It is the present leadersship policy to make Americans suffer because they are stupid, arrogant, or simply not liked by other nations. The present leadership has no energy policy except to cripple an oil based economy.
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Barry
March 9th, 2011
10:19 am
At $5 a gallon, I promise you the economy will collapse. There is no economic recovery as the main stream media states, here’s why:
1. 44 million people on food stamps-all time high
2. Over 1 million foreclosures in 2010-all time high
3. Food Price Index-all time high currently
4. 20% plus real unemployment rate-if you believe the government’s number of 8.9% you’re a moron.
5. Homes sales and home values are weak
6. Increasing trade deficits with China and other nations
7. Manufacturing jobs in the US have moved out of the country
8. 14 trillion dollar deficit and Congress may raise the debt ceiling
9. State pension crisis
10. California, Illinois, and several other states virtually bankrupt
11. Municipal bond crisis for local governments set to explode
12. Social Security is already in the red
13. The value of the dollar is declining
Where is this economic recovery?
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Rich White Guy
March 9th, 2011
10:50 am
Barry – don’t be such a Negative Nancy!
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BillS
March 9th, 2011
10:58 am
Rich White Guy, love the irony.
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kitty
March 9th, 2011
11:11 am
I consider this extortion and hope everyone curbs driving to cut down on the demand for such a pricey item!
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Samantha
March 9th, 2011
2:27 pm
My fiance and I typically take 2 “big” vacations a year. I think that will stay the same. We also usually fly domestically for “mini” vacations once a month. When we consider the rapid increase in airfare, we will probably cut down on our domestic vacations; opting to go once every other month or so. One good thing that I have seen (and taken advantage of) are specials on hotels. I recently booked a hotel in San Francisco for 50% off. That is a huge deal and helps ease the pain of the high airfares.
I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that the price of fuel comes down and airlines lower their fares.
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