Bruce Wilcox turned his portable oxygen tank up to its highest level before we left the parking lot. The Lilburn resident — a retired upstate New York firefighter — suffers from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Makes it hard to breathe. He e-mailed me recently because he wanted me to see what he thinks the handicapped, physically challenged or elderly residents wade through when they have business at the Gwinnett Justice and Administrative Center. Like he had recently.
When it comes to handicapped access, Wilcox thinks GJAC, located off Langley Drive in Lawrenceville, the county seat, leaves a lot to be desired. And it starts with the parking lot.
The handicapped spaces are located up front and center of the massive parking lot. The county building is a good football field’s walk away, across a street that the county closed as a post 9-11 safety measure. The walkway has intricate designs, not cobblestone, but something close.
“Deadly,” surmised Wilcox. “Have you ever tripped on one?”
The walkway winds straight through the middle of the smoking section. On a recent Thursday — and it was lunchtime — hardly a soul was around. On Wilcox’s previous visit, though, he said smokers were thick. “It is really, really an insult,” he said, “especially when you’re carrying an oxygen tank.”
We made our way across the closed and barricaded street and headed toward the building’s entrance. The middle set of doors are handicapped-accessible, via a button that must to be pressed. It was the only set of doors in the entire building that granted such access.
After we went through security, Wilcox needed to rest. The only three visible chairs available on the first floor were located near Probate Court. Nary a one was designated for the handicapped.
Once inside, you’re on your own to struggle with some heavy doors. You have to push the doors to enter and pull them to exit. People in wheelchairs, on walkers or who have other disabilities tend to have weak arms and legs, so the doors at the administrative center are more like barriers than gateways.
We caught the elevator to check out the upstairs, notably courtroom access. “Do you think someone could get a wheelchair through there?” Wilcox asked. He pointed to a door that would be a tight squeeze for a super model, much less a motorized chair.
When we took the elevator back downstairs, Wilcox talked about how grocery stores provide wheelchairs for shoppers. Maybe the administrative center should do likewise. Turned out, it does. Back on the first floor, he asked a sheriff’s deputy if any wheelchairs were available for the public to use. The polite female officer said there was one. She rushed off to get it before Wilcox could tell her that he was just inquiring.
Outside, we started back across the closed-off street and headed for the parking lot. Wilcox needed to rest, so we stopped at the only bench twixt the parking lot and entrance.
As he rested, we talked about the minor modifications that could be made in and around the building to grant better mobility. At one time, a vacant strip of property near the front of the center was the designated for handicapped parking.
All that changed after the 9-11 terrorist attacks. “I realize after 9-11 there had to be some steps taken,” Wilcox had written in his e-mail, “but this is a little over the top. Think about those in walkers and wheelchairs traveling in the rain that far. Handicapped parking is way too far from the building.”
For the good of the community, Wilcox hopes the county will consider: erecting more benches along the walkway and reserve some for the handicapped; adding more automatic doors; building a shelter or kiosk with a phone so residents in the parking lot can call the lobby and request a wheelchair or assistance, moving the smoking area.
“Please,” he said.
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Michael H. Smith
March 29th, 2009
1:17 am
Making things real simple Wilcox, did you ever smoke?
Michael H. Smith
March 29th, 2009
1:06 am
Can’t give a straight answer? Are you saying your COPD is purely job related to firefighting?
Bruce Wilcox
March 28th, 2009
11:33 pm
Smith want part of being a firefighter for twenty years didn’t you understand? What have you ever done?
Michael H. Smith
March 27th, 2009
8:08 pm
Oh it was definitely partly for yourself hypocrite, don’t lie Wilcox. Oh and by the way, several peopled hinted, rather all but asked, just how did you come by contracting COPD?
After reading your pitiful childish outburst in defense of narco-terrorist on the present blog 287g, to flush what you call knowledge would take and eternity. Such usually is the case with pathological lairs and of course pathetic Anti-American trash like yourself.
Pete
March 26th, 2009
6:56 pm
LT5000 – I just downloaded Google Earth to this laptop as I did not have it on this one. I would hope that it would be accurate. According to this latest version, it is about 266 feet from the front door to the edge of the bottom of the circle of the parking lot. To the closest handicapped parking space is another 79 feet or so for a total of 385 feet. These numbers are off by a few feet as I cannot determined the exact entrance to the building from the image Google has but for this discussion it is probably close enough. In any event, this is at least twice as far as you claimed.
Jais – This is blog about Gwinnet County. Covington is Newton County which is not even contiguous to Gwinnett. While the FEMA issue might need to be investigated, I fail to see why an opinion column about Gwinnett County should be held accountable for something going on 2 counties away.
To all that think that Rick replied with a challenge to fight, think again. It could lead to him losing his job. Anyone can use his name as their name on her. Further, when Rick legitimately replies, his name is highlighted in a different color. Just FYI.
My personal observation is that it is indeed a long way to the building for someone with a disability. I served on an extended jury assignement for a while in a cast for a broken foot and felt the uneven pavement and distance were issues. I agree that everyone reacts to a disability in a different way. I became much more sensitive to the issue as my father progressed from a cane to a walker to a wheelchair prior to his death and my own experiences. I’m a fairly big guy and understand how the internal doors could be an issue for someone with a disability.
Regarding the pavers, I know of a large local University that had to change the style of brick used in walking areas because of issues for women’s shoes. I don’t think us guys should comment on the suitability until we literally walk a mile in their shoes, in this case shoes with small area heels.
Amazing the lack of civility exhibited here! I fail to understand why those of you that are so adamant about Rick’s columns exert the effort to read and then argue so energetically and viscously. I guess it is the only forum some of you have or can ever hope to have. In any event, it is my opinion that you can and should argue factual errors but opinions are just that. I personally find Rick’s columns mostly entertaining and often educational and informative.
Just my $.02.
Bruce Wilcox
March 25th, 2009
11:13 pm
Smith
Delois and yourself should really read the article again, please point out where I said it was for me? I turned up the O2, made it inside, walked around and talked sa bit as I pointed out what could/should be done. I had to rest on the way back to the parking lot, lucky for me the only bench was empty. Both your attacks make you look like the fools you are.
GJAC employee, the smoking area I’m pointing out is around the monument out front, just before the “NO SMOKING PASS THIS POINT” sign. I don’t know if they’re employee’s or visitors, but those special butt collectors are/were, hopefully have been removed, are there.
To really nit-pick, the Handicapped Parking sign coming in has the old arrow pointing staight ahead which would lead some poor soul to run into the safety shield, which means you must be a terrorist. The sign hasn’t been changed since the county decided it was a main target in 2006.
You see delois and smith, your kind knowledge goes down with one flush, well smiths usally takes two.
Michael H. Smith
March 25th, 2009
4:07 pm
Brucie you really need to get over dumb yourself. Sore losers come up with anything rather than admit they lost. Pride can really be a down fall of a person. Delois stole all your thunder Brucie. You gotta love it when a phony liberal agenda falls apart. I mean, just saying.
Oh and Brucie when you build things to spec, sometimes that 1 or 2 hour fire rated door or wall that someone didn’t know about or ever cared to read about in a spec book, means they are alive to tell about the fire they escaped.
GJAC employee
March 25th, 2009
9:44 am
LT, you’re the idiot. There is no security gate at the loading dock at GJAC. Any truck can back right up to the loading dock. I know, because I’ve done it. Getting into the building from the loading dock is a different matter, however. The only “security gate” is the gated access into the employee parking deck. I navigated GJAC in a cast with a broken foot several years ago and I don’t ever care to do it again. That was when the handicapped parking was actually next to the building.
As for the relocation of the handicapped parking spots in the front of the building, it was not done right after 9/11, it was several YEARS later.
Smoking is prohibited within 20 feet of the entrance doors to GJAC. Employees are not allowed to smoke anywhere but in their own personal vehicles. Used to be a smoking area on the patio out back behind the cafeteria, but access changed when the metal detectors were put in coming from the employee parking area, and now the building is supposed to be smoke free anyway.
As to the distance from the parking lot, it’s still a hike from the handicapped spots out front to the front door. My son uses a walker to get around, but we’d have to put him in his wheelchair due to the distance and those stupid stones at the entrance. Walker wheels get snagged in the cracks way too easily.
something all of you well-mannered commenters should keep in mind is that any disability is going to have different effects on different people. COPD will not affect Bruce the same way in affects someone else, and everyone will have good days and bad days. Until you’ve been in their shoes, you don’t know what they are dealing with and what their actual limitations are.
As for handicapped parking spaces….it’s not just the proximity to the door that’s an issue. You need space next to the vehicle to unload a wheelchair or a walker or whatever other medical equipment that’s coming along, and regular spaces don’t have that.
And I know LT will have something inane to fire back at me, which is fine, because I’m not coming back to read it.
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