Georgia Tech may add another recruit or two

What’s the latest with Georgia Tech recruiting?

“Right now, we’re trying to get out and see all of our guys that are committed,” Paul Johnson told the AJC this week. “We were kind of late getting out because of the (ACC) championship game. So that’s kind of what we’re doing now.”
Georgia Tech has 15 commitments for 2013. There may not be much recruiting drama over the next couple of months because the Yellow Jackets just about filled all of their scholarship spots early.

Georgia Tech has 15 commitments for 2013, and may another one or two (AJC)

Georgia Tech has 15 commitments for 2013, and may another one or two (AJC)

“I think it’s fairly normal; we’re usually to the point in December where we have only a spot or two,” Johnson said. “That’s been the case most of the time (with our staff). Occasionally, something happens, and you add one here or there. You know, somebody decides they’re not going to play or not coming back. You might pick up one, and that could happen.

“We may still take another guy or two. We’ll just see how the numbers go.”

The Georgia Tech staff also has to review the updated academic transcripts of the current 15 commitments, to make sure they’re on track to be admitted. “When you get kids to commit early, you don’t have all of that stuff done,” Johnson said.

If the Yellow Jackets add one or two more recruits to this year’s class, what position will Johnson be looking for specifically? “I think just good players,” he said. “If we can find somebody who is a good player and fits what we do, that would be the thing. We’re not locked down on any particular spot.”

Due to NCAA rules, Johnson can’t comment on any specific recruits until they sign scholarship papers in February. However, generally speaking, he is high on his group. “We really like them, or we wouldn’t have recruited them. I think there are some good players in this class.”

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black bee

December 7th, 2012
3:17 am

This is why CPJ’s recruiting is always less then average. Most schools especially since there has been so much Coaching change are out trying to finish strong. But CPJ wins all those recruiting battles with Furman, South Ala. etc. in summer that they don’t have any room for players who now may be thinking about GT. The whole recruiting system and department needs to be upgraded!!!!

Mountain Dawg

December 7th, 2012
4:08 am

Any future Reggie Balls in there?

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GT = 11 time loser to Mark Richt

December 7th, 2012
6:48 am

Just wait till CPJ tells them how exciting it is to wait for word from the NCAA about a bowl waiver. That’ll get the kids pumped up.

Yellow

December 7th, 2012
6:51 am

CPJ needs to go. He can’t recruit period.

Tokyo jacket

December 7th, 2012
7:07 am

Here’s hoping for Giff Smith to come back as DC and land a top 20 class. I think we land a ton of “solid” kids, but not stars. When you lose 4th quarter leads to VT, Miami, and Clemson, you’re probably only a couple of studs away from turning 6-7 into 9-4 or 10-3.

ToeMeetsLeather

December 7th, 2012
7:10 am

With only having (15) or so spots over the last couple of years, CPJ should have his deepest and most mature team to date next year. Good to see the kids getting the educations they are on scholarship for and that their parents were told the Institute was committed to do their part concernihg.

With (35) spots available for our brethren to the east, I guess as long as the W’s are coming it doesn’t matter to the masses that they have a revolving door STUDENT athlete policy. Kinda sad really.

TrueDat

December 7th, 2012
7:24 am

2 words for you Toe Meets———Joe Hamilton

ignition

December 7th, 2012
7:46 am

Geezus Giff Smith Helped bring in 1 count em 1 top 20 recruiting class in his 6 years of being a d-line coach and people act like he was Ed Orgeron. Give it a damn rest already.

Jacket Man

December 7th, 2012
7:50 am

Just a few comments…First, Giff Smith may be a good recruiter, but he’s a really bad bench coach (his defensive line at Buffalo has underformed horribly) and he not only has no business being a Defensive Coordinator, he doesn’t need to come back to GA Tech. Next, it appears there will be AT LEAST two more scholarships that will be available, and the defensive line is a priority spot for at least one of them. Finally, our coaches have been spending a ton of time with our commits FIGHTING OFF other schools trying to flip several of them, so I’d say Paul Johnson and his staff evaluate talent pretty well. So far, everything looks good, however, the coaches aren’t just sitting around “hoping” they won’t lose anyone, they’re constantly looking for others themselves, and actually might have a surprise in THEIR back pocket, just like Justin Thomas last year; who knows…

Hold on!!!!

December 7th, 2012
7:57 am

@ Tokyo Jacket – The day Tech fans finally get over all of this education bull crap, might be the day yall wake up and see that every college has education standards. My mom runs the IB program (kind of like a gifted program) for a high school and tells me all the time how hard it is to actually get into UGA. Is it easier for an athlete to get into UGA, Yes! Is it easier for an athlete to get into Tech, Yes!! Stop using that excuse and focus on how CPJ can recruit better. Tech does not get top recruits bc of the offense yall run. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!

ignition

December 7th, 2012
8:12 am

Where is Tech’s Manti Te’o ??
Didn’t CPJ coach in Hawaii for like 6 years himself..
The West Coast is fertile recruiting grounds and the Somoan Community produces a lot of talent, why not bring some over to Tech.
Tech needs another DT/NG
Jay Ellison is uncommitted (Auburn is on him fierce)
Kingsley Opara is committed to Maryland but is showing a lot of interest in Tech

I also hear Tech has interest in a wide receiver from NJ Ricky Jeune

To be honest Needs these THREE .. With Tech’s misses on the D’Line and possible departers and wideout, they have to get them in ..

ignition

December 7th, 2012
8:15 am

@Hold on !!!! You are very very very incorrect.. Recruiting at Tech is A Lot more difficult, and the fact that you are even comparing the two school and equating it to the offense, shows your ignorance.

Jon Koncak

December 7th, 2012
8:22 am

What’s the latest with Ga Tech recruiting?

Nothing, more of the same stock piling mediocre athletes that will lead to a few wins against the dregs of the ACC, occasional losses to division II schools, and blowout losses against teams with decent athletes and coaching…..

ignition

December 7th, 2012
8:30 am

Tech this is the Man for the DC position..
Great recruiter, can help build up the D-Line, is a motivator and intense, has the Saban stamp of approval.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/new_tide_assistant_coach_chris.html

Keep Kelly and make him Co-Defensive coordinator. You need fire and discipline on the sideline from the defense and I believe he is the guy.

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Hold on!!!!

December 7th, 2012
9:06 am

@ Ignition – I was not comparing the two schools. All I said was that the Tech fans need to stop using that excuse as a crutch. Plenty of major colleges that have high academics also have good football teams. No reason Tech should not bring in good recruits given the location of the school. At the end of the day Tech is where it is bc no big recruit wants to run the triple option, and play on a crappy defense. The CPJ hire will hinder yalls program for a decade bc yall can not fire him for another 2 years and it will take 4 years for the new HC to get the right recruits in to play a normal offense.

BobinBuford

December 7th, 2012
9:14 am

Hold On!!!

Check out how many recruits get into UGA under special academic conditions vs. those at GT. I believe that last check was that over 70% of UGA athletes are special admits – less than 20% at GT. GT does not have a recreation studies major that they can hide student athletes in.

The Great Swami

December 7th, 2012
9:26 am

I wonder if Stanford fans whine about academics and wonder why they can’t have a top 10 program…..oh wait

ignition

December 7th, 2012
9:28 am

@ Hold on

What’s a normal offense in CFB??
The Pistol ? Run & Shoot ? Spread like Oregon ? Spread Like Auburn now ? I can go on..
The offense has an ESPN top 100 at QB next year and a 4* as his back up..
A Oline with a All American Uzzi and 4 NFL players, 2 of which is his recruit.

CPJ’s offense incorporates the pistol, the run & shoot, and spread and is averaging 30+ points per game and over 300+ in yards. The offense is not the problem.

Question for BobinBuford

December 7th, 2012
9:32 am

Are you telling me that over 80% of Tech’s football players would have been admitted if they were not athletes? (Less than 20% special admits). All these jocks had 3.8 GPAs in high school and scored at the 90th percentile on the SATs? That does not ring true, or else Tech’s admission policies have really, really been lowered.

ignition

December 7th, 2012
9:36 am

Im not whining about academics, I think Tech should and can recruit better consistently bringing in a top 20 class isn’t out of the realm of reason. Tech just has to expand and recruit nationally if not internationally, but those rankings are not the end all be all, the personel prospect evaluation has to be strong as well.

Jon Koncak

December 7th, 2012
9:43 am

Ga Tech coaching, recruiting, facilities = dumpster fire

Very OLD Dawg

December 7th, 2012
9:45 am

Tech must hide behind something Acadenics wrong offence, average recruits, bad food at the training table, the wind blows wrong at the North Ave Trade School poor coaching. They have it down to a science. UGA may have a recreation studies major but it is obvious that Tech gives out a major in WHINING. Forget UGA how about the other 6 losses that were hung on you guys. Maybe just maybe you need to find a lower level of competition if you want wins. If not shut up and take your whippins like adults.

North Ave Killer Beez

December 7th, 2012
9:59 am

Why would a great talent come to GT, when the coach no longer fields the best talent?

The triple option is just not much fun to watch anymore. Never been so unexcited about next year.

JM

December 7th, 2012
10:07 am

The facilities is one thing that people should not say is a dumpster fire at GT. All the facilities are in great shape and the Tennis Center is in the middle of a rebuild. The only thing that is needed is more parking near the stadiums.

A person SMART enough to know.....

December 7th, 2012
10:07 am

Jemea Thomas is talking about heading to the NFL. We will have another spot open at DB it is looking like.

wes

December 7th, 2012
10:36 am

I’m excited about next year.

Why? The three yer reign of Tevin Washington is over. That guy sucked!

sam

December 7th, 2012
10:37 am

I actually attended both schools but am a die hard tech fan. Believe me, Tech is much harder academically. But I have to agree academics is not the real problem. Rutgers perfect example. Tend to agree most players want a pro style offense, and obviously CPJ does not put the effort into recruiting other positions, like defense! I think is’t time to try something else or I don’t see any inprovement in the future. Getting tired of hearing it from the other crowd!

A person SMART enough to know.....

December 7th, 2012
10:46 am

CPJ needs to find his Cam Newton, RGIII, Johnny Football. You know a QB that was though to be a TE or DB by other coaches but can Play QB, Run and Throw. The O does fine but could be great with that type of QB and the NFL is realizing these guys can play in the League because the coaches aare molding the NFL O to these guys talent.

Defensive players are Tech’s biggest need. have to recruit better on that side of the ball.

Buddy Landel

December 7th, 2012
10:50 am

Very OLD Dawg

December 7th, 2012
9:45 am
Tech must hide behind something Acadenics wrong offence
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collegeballfan

December 7th, 2012
11:07 am

“At the end of the day Tech is where it is bc no big recruit wants to run the triple option, and play on a crappy defense.”

This seems to be the general opinion but that opinion is not supported by the facts.

Here is Georgia Tech football in actual numbers:
From 1960 through 2012 – 332 wins, 271 losses and 10 ties.

In the Johnson era – 40 wins, 26 losses.

Georgia Tech has never recruited the same quality of athlete as UGA since 1960. The offense being run has nothing to do with it. The defense being run has nothing to do with it.

By comparison, UGA from 1960 through 2012 has a record of 420 wins- 190 losses and 15 ties.

And for further comparison and contemplation, here are the records from 1920 through 1959:

GT – 250 – 136 – 21
UGA – 248 – 142 – 20

Clearly in the 1970’s UGA went in one direction and GT in another. After Dodd, GT went through 4 coaches, Carson, Fulcher, Rodgers and Curry, who had a combined record of 104 – 111 – 7. In that same period, 1967 through 1986 UGA had a record of 160 – 63 – 9. To date Georgia Tech has not recovered from that series of bad coaching hires.

Other win – loss numbers of interest:

1960 – 1969 – GT – 61 – 41 – 2—UGA – 59 – 38 8

1970 – 1979 – GT – 61 – 50 – 3—UGA – 75 – 38 – 2

Paul in NH

December 7th, 2012
12:02 pm

“Most players want a pro style offense”

I guess that is why Urban Meyer couldn’t get any good players at either Florida or OSU; why Auburn couldn’t recruit good enough players to win an MNC; why Oregon can’t get any good players; why ND had a poor record this year….

UGA = Yawn

December 7th, 2012
12:31 pm

This is his problem; When asked if the Yellow Jackets add one or two more recruits to this year’s class, what position will he be looking for specifically? “I think just good players,” he said.

What??? No, he needs to get specific players for specific positions!

RambleOn84

December 7th, 2012
12:37 pm

A “special admit” is not everyone who falls below the average. Half the students, by definition, fall below the average.

A “special admit” is someone who falls below the ACCEPTABLE RANGE of typical (non-athlete) students. Georgie’s football team is mostly special admits, while Tech has very few, if any.

The reason Tech football allows few special admits isn’t because we’re so snobbish. It’s because the school is a good bit more difficult ONCE YOU’RE ACTUALLY IN, due to the focus on math and science.

Under O’Leary and Gailey we let in many more special admits, and what happened? Many could not stay eligible and we got hit with probation.

THIS is why we’re hamstrung by academics.

1 4 GT

December 7th, 2012
1:02 pm

UGA = Y………when have we ever heard/seen CPJ give a direct answer to a direct question concerning personnel or tactics. Methinks never! I imagine he knows (as HC, I surely do hope so) better than me what his/our team’s needs are.

1 4 GT

December 7th, 2012
1:38 pm

RambleOn…..& collegebal…..both make good points. Up until the middle 60s, GT & Georgie were pretty even. In fact, playing in the same conferences all the way back into the 19teens, GT had more titles & more nationally recognized national titles. I have read several books on GT history & her football teams & coaches. They fought tough academic standards back in Heisman’s day & the coaches were charged with seeing to it that their players made the grades. With the divergence of their records in the middle 60s, the recruiting at Tech dropped off. Young kids want to be part of a winner & the devil to the advantages of a Tech degree, and there are many. The facts are available to back that statement up for those that want to do the research thru Google-it is easy to find. __________________________________________________________________________________While I can’t say about Georgie, I do know that Tech makes the effort to help their SAs to earn a diploma, even to the point of offering help beyond the athlete’s eligibility requirements. If a SA can make the grades, he can earn a diploma from GT, even if it takes time beyond his playing years. What the leg humpers generally won’t admit is the limited number of degrees offered at Tech compared with other schools. For example: Tech offers a total of 113 degrees….30 BS….47 Masters….36 PhDs. I counted over 170 BAs at Georgie. I didn’t see the need to count Masters & PhDs. I found this info thru Google. Check it for yourself. And while the calculus course SAs “have” to take might not be as tough as it once was, it’s still calculus. And recruiters probably drop it in front of a kid and ask “is this what you want to study”? But Tech can do better. I could if I was younger and could get the job! I am not making excuses. Just stating facts that are readily available to all.

Flowery Branch Yellow Jacket

December 7th, 2012
3:31 pm

Frankly, I like the quality of our athletes on the offensive side of the ball. Over the last couple of years, we’ve signed athletes who won their respective state titles in the 100 meter dash in both Georgia and Alabama … so we’ve got some speed. This year’s signing class should include a couple of O-linemen who each stand better than 6′4″ and weigh well over 300 pounds … so we’re getting size. It’s true that we’re not going to sign a 5-star QB … because the “star” ratings are typically given to the high school QB’s that are the best passers, and our offense doesn’t NEED a top-flight passer nearly as much as it needs a good decision-maker. Granted, the QB in the triple-option offense still needs to be able to hit his target consistently (and that has presented its own problems, especially with Nesbitt). Speaking of passing targets, CPJ and his staff have recruited wide receivers that are both tall and fast. Tech has sent at least four wide receivers to the NFL in recent years. Since we don’t have any eligible receivers this year, that obviously won’t happen in 2013 … but I wouldn’t discount the possibility of it happening again within the next 2-3 years.

The Jackets’ personnel deficiencies, if there are any, are probably on the defensive side of the ball. Frankly, though, I’ve watched our defense compete very well against some very good offensive units this season … but seldom for four straight quarters. If the defense had played as well throughout the year as they did in the first half of the VT game, or the second half of the UNC, DU, or FSU games, then this year’s squad would likely be sitting with a record of 11-2 and be destined for the Orange Bowl. I think our athletes are good enough to do this, but I have no clue why they’ve been unable to play a complete game from start to finish. One thing I do know is that we would be better with the addition of some bigger, stronger, and faster D-linemen. Our pass rush has been one of the weakest parts of the defense for at least the last three seasons, and that’s an area that should get greater focus.

Jacket Man

December 7th, 2012
4:02 pm

A person SMART enough to know; As of today, Jemea has NOT filed for an evaluation by the NFL. There have only been three: an Outside LB (JA), a DE (Too Tall ED), and a DB (RS).

wrecked

December 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

6-7 , 8-5, 6-7 , lose to VT, Miami, Georgia every year.. Get blown out at home by MTSU and BYU.
Hopefully this will be the last season GT will have to suffer with PJ at the helm.. The offense can’t score against good defenses and the defense can’t stop decent offenses.. FSU became complacent on offense in the 2nd half or it would have been just as ugly as the Georgia game. Southern Cal will score at will.You need only look at the roster full of players that belong in the Southern Conference to realize the failing of PJ and this pathetic coaching staff.

Vel Crow

December 7th, 2012
5:15 pm

Hey Tech look at Vandy, they”re not making excuses, and they”re winning. Same academic standards.

wrecked

December 7th, 2012
5:20 pm

@rambleon84, Thats a nice story but the truth is Tech was put on probation because it knowingly played ineligible athletes. Gailey was only a victim , he didn’t do anything that led to any sanctions., it was all on O Leary. And GT doesn’t have special admits, What palnet are you living on?
Report: Exemptions benefit athletes
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If grades make you a long shot for college, you’re much more likely to get a break if you can play ball.

An Associated Press review of admissions data submitted to the NCAA by most of the 120 schools in college football’s top tier shows that athletes enjoy strikingly better odds of having admission requirements bent on their behalf.

The notion that college athletes’ talents give them a leg up in the admissions game isn’t a surprise. But in what NCAA officials called the most extensive review to date, the AP found the practice is widespread and can be found in every major conference.

The review identified at least 27 schools where athletes were at least 10 times more likely to benefit from special admission programs than students in the general population.

The NCAA defines special admissions programs as those designed for students who don’t meet “standard or normal entrance requirements.” The NCAA says such exceptions are fine as long as schools offer the same opportunities to everyone.
That group includes 2009 Bowl Championship Series teams Oregon, Georgia Tech and Alabama, which is playing Texas for the national title Jan. 7.

Bama Boy

December 7th, 2012
5:24 pm

@Old dawg Really A&M should be ranked way ahead of UGA,afterall they beat us and UGA didnt,UGA played three tuff teams in the SEC this year and was 1 and 2 they have never been a powerhouse either may be 33 more years for the thuggas to!Bahaha

treyingeorgia

December 7th, 2012
5:28 pm

Ignition the offense is your problem…that and the fact you have a roster made up of glorified 1-AA players. If you ever do change coaches it will take 3-4yrs to get in legitimate Div 1 Players on campus. You run a triple option offense plain and simple- THAT IS THE PROBLEM AND WHY YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A 1 TRICK PONY.

A person SMART enough to know.....

December 7th, 2012
5:42 pm

Jacket Man
December 7th, 2012
4:02 pm

A person SMART enough to know; As of today, Jemea has NOT filed for an evaluation by the NFL. There have only been three: an Outside LB (JA), a DE (Too Tall ED), and a DB (RS).
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Sorry but I have actually been talking to Jemea. He is busting Ass on a 7 page paper due already by 4pm today an looking at the NFL. It has been a TALK he has been having. He is CONSIDERING the OPTIONS. He knows what it means to get a Tech Degree but he has had people in his ear about the JUMP too. He is Conflicted like many player are at this time of year and in their careers. Don’t discount my INFO just understand it is on his mind a lot.

A person SMART enough to know.....

December 7th, 2012
5:48 pm

Vel Crow
December 7th, 2012
5:15 pm

Hey Tech look at Vandy, they”re not making excuses, and they”re winning. Same academic standards.
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Another SEC dumb Azz fan…………Vandy has +60% special admits on their football team and they offer CRAPPY- EZ majors too. Don’t think cause VANDY is PRIVATE they don’t have Special Admits tacking EZer majors. Duke and Wake have the EZer majors too.

Iluvnutella

December 7th, 2012
5:52 pm

If we are filled recruitingwise with more O line doughboys, next fall will DEFINITELY be fish-frys last year.

pudge

December 7th, 2012
6:06 pm

does coach know commit from jackson busted on pot charges.sad part dad cop at school.

Tybee Light

December 7th, 2012
7:10 pm

I bet there is a fish fry somewhere there.

Tybee Light

December 7th, 2012
7:13 pm

Just shut down your crap program. You all are pathetic.