Florida Gators lose 4th recruit in just over week

Florida lost its fourth recruit in just over a week when Joshua Outlaw backed out of his commitment to the Gators on Sunday.

The Florida Gators and four recruits have parted ways in just over a week (AP)

The Florida Gators and four recruits have parted ways in just over a week (AP)

The 6-foot-4, 290-pound offensive lineman from M.L. King High School had been pledged to Florida since April. Outlaw told the AJC he de-committed because of two reasons, including the fact that Florida’s coaches did not approve of him taking visits to other schools.

“I kind of wanted to re-evaluate things,” Outlaw said. “We weren’t seeing eye to eye on a couple of things. I wanted to take my official visits to other schools, and they weren’t big on that.

“We tried to talk about it and hash things out. It was just best for me to take a step back, reconsider everything and take my time with it.”

Why did Outlaw want to visit other schools? “I just wanted to take my officials. There’s no reason not to take them. I definitely didn’t have anything set up yet. You only go through the recruiting process once, and I wanted to see some other places. When I was talking to Florida’s coaches about it, that’s something they didn’t approve of.”

The other reason for Outlaw’s departure was because he said he wasn’t sure where he was going to fit in along Florida’s offensive line. “I’d like the chance to play offensive tackle because that’s my position now in high school. They told me ‘the best guys play.’ Me being a competitor, I’m the type of guy who wants to get on the field early. I would play any position on the line to get on the field. Of course, I would like a shot at offensive tackle.”

Outlaw is ranked as a 4-star by ESPN, and as the nation’s No. 13 offensive guard by Scout.com.

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Outlaw was asked if the situation of Tre Bell, the ex-Florida recruit, affected his decision. Florida accepted the commitment of Bell, a New Jersey cornerback, on the contingency that he worked out for the Gators at camp this summer, according to the Gainesville Sun and ESPN – a contingency which Bell later disputed. Bell attended Florida’s Friday Night Lights camp but did not work out. However, the next day, Bell participated in a national 7-on-7 tournament, which reportedly angered Florida coach Will Muschamp and led to a chain of events that finished with Bell switching his commitment to Vanderbilt. (You can read more about it here)

“It definitely opened my eyes to the recruiting process … not just Florida, but the recruiting process overall,” Outlaw said. “His situation was different than mine. I can’t really speak for his situation. But for me, what happened with Tre, no, it did not affect my decision to de-commit.”

Outlaw, despite rumors to the contrary, said he his Florida commitment was not accepted with the same contingency. He worked out for the Gators last month. “No, not at all. There were never any contingencies like that expressed to me. But I was told when I went to Dawg Night, to make sure to go to Friday Night Lights. But they never said my scholarship would be taken away, or anything like that, if I didn’t.”

Outlaw was a surprise participant in UGA’s Dawg Night prospect camp last month. Why did he go? “I had been working out all summer, and I never had the chance to develop my skills against top competition because of the conditioning program with my high school team. I never had the chance to go up against top competition. I felt like I should go down and compete.”

Ex-Florida Gators commit Josh Outlaw (AJC/Bob Andres)

Ex-Florida Gators commit Josh Outlaw (AJC/Bob Andres)

Now that Outlaw has de-committed from Florida, would he consider UGA? “Georgia is ranked high and seems to have a good program. I’m looking for schools that are the best fit me, and I’m not in a rush. Maybe Georgia is one of those schools, maybe it’s not. Right now, I’m open to all schools that are interested.”

Does Outlaw still hold a scholarship offer from UGA? The Bulldogs have four commitments along the offensive line, and may be holding spots with the hopes of landing Laremy Tunsil or DeVondre Seymour, among others. Outlaw said he’s had conversations with a few schools since April, but nothing serious. As far as Georgia specifically, Outlaw can’t say for sure he still has a UGA offer but added, “It was never expressed to me that I didn’t.”

What’s next for Outlaw? He will focus on his senior season, and slowly begin to establish communications with colleges again. Before he committed to Florida, he was being recruited hard by Tennessee, Ole Miss, Miami, Arkansas, Clemson and Virginia Tech, among others. Moving forward, Outlaw will still consider Florida, too.

Back to Florida: In the short term, the Gators are fine along the offensive line after signing D.J. Humphries, Jessamen Dunker, and Maryland transfer Max Garcia this past season. Florida has two OL commitments for 2013, including Colquitt County OL Octavious Jackson.

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A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
2:59 pm

What don’t these kids understand?

Mr. Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:09 pm

Whenever I hear of a coach not allowing a player to take all of his visits I get a sense of insecurity from the coach. The simple fact of the matter is that if you do great job recruting you’ll get the great players in the end. History has proven time and again tha commitments don’t mean that the player has locked in. In the end, all that has a happened is that the Gators probably just lost any chance now of landing what looks like a top flight recruit.

Beast from the East

August 19th, 2012
3:10 pm

Getting strange with the recent defections, but we still only have about 5-6 spots to fill. Oh well, can’t get ‘em all. Maybe, just maybe, if he commits to UGA that will shut tide roll up. Nah, I doubt it.
Go Gators!

George Stein

August 19th, 2012
3:11 pm

So Florida has the Paul Johnson rule, too?

Bad Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:11 pm

I assume Garner and Bobo will be on the phone with him shortly.

Rhall55

August 19th, 2012
3:14 pm

By the time, Rodney Garner gets in touch w/ Josh, he will have 15 more offers…check out the AJC Super 11 and see CRG’s local performance: only 2 of 9 that have committed and the remaining (2) more than likely going to out of state schools….get your butt out of Athens and see these kids….incompetence, laziness or whatever….CRG does not hit the recruiting trail like he should…time to win some big games w/ big time players…too many misses!!

Dawg 4life

August 19th, 2012
3:19 pm

I blame the colleges. They force the kids to commit too early, which causes all this nonsense. Josh wanting to visit other schools is unfortunately perfectly normal in today’s recruiting world. We’ve got several kids at UGA who want to visit other schools. For a coach, I guess it comes down to is … do you have enough confidence as a coach to allow kids to visit other schools? Florida, I guess not.

Mr. Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:20 pm

Earlier this week long time safety Tray Matthews who is a long time UGA commit opted to take all of his visits. His reason, UGA got commitments from two other safeties and in all fairness he has decided to keep his options open. Yet he says he is still committed to the Bulldogs. Unlike with Florida who has probably burned a bridge with Outlaw, the Bulldogs are still Matthews’ front runner with Matthews understanding that a commitment also doesn’t guarantee you a spot in the starting line up someday. If a player goes to a top program, there will be stiff competition for playing time.

Beast from the East

August 19th, 2012
3:20 pm

George Stein,
That’s the first I’ve ever heard of it. Seems to me there may be more to the story that what was just reported but we may never know because the coaches aren’t allowed to comment on recruits.

paul

August 19th, 2012
3:21 pm

“The best guys play.” What, exactly, about this statement does this kid have a problem with?

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
3:21 pm

“I just wanted to take my officials. There’s no reason not to take them. I definitely didn’t have anything set up yet. You only go through the recruiting process once, and I wanted to see some other places. When I was talking to Florida’s coaches about it, that’s something they didn’t approve of.”
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Another kid that doesn’t understand the word commitment.

IF you want to DO THE RECRUITING THING then don’t COMMIT to have a SPOT and then want to Dance with the DEVIL.
UF stopped recruiting a player because they had a spot filled with your commitment. Sorry but These players really are not College material if they don’t understand what is expected from them after they commit.
The Colleges don’t understand the NEW GAME these kids are playing either.
Make an early signing period or don’t considered a kid committed and keep recruiting better kids. These players are changing their mind more than the sheets on their bed.
Many kids don’t understand Morals, Ethics or Honor because they see what parents, teachers, politicians, police and leaders of society do to cheat you at the drop of a dime to get ahead.

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George Stein

August 19th, 2012
3:24 pm

Same here, Beast.

Florida doesn’t (to their credit) oversign, so if he wants to take his visits, so be it. Players like that just need to understand that their spot is no longer guaranteed.

gt4ever

August 19th, 2012
3:28 pm

Hey the kid is rolling the dice… He’s not smart enough to realize what the word commitment means… Maybe he needs to go to UGA! Most of their recruits can’t spell commitment either….

GatorNation19

August 19th, 2012
3:31 pm

Beast- don’t worry about the string of decommits. Sometimes a staff needs to move on from kids…grades, off the field stuff or wanting to play the game.

Mr Dawg Muschamp allows visits but it’s been his policy since taking over that commits don’t visit SEC East teams or FSU. Nothing wrong with that imo. Just more PT to seel Tunsil or Tyler Moore.

Destin Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:39 pm

Josh, come to UGA.. you know we need O LINE.. be an in State hero !!! watch us win SEC Champs THIS year !!!

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
3:40 pm

It is sounding like we don’t need any recruiting blogs calling a kid a Commit until Jan 1st and then it still will not mean much.

I think it will be very interesting to see what these kids are like after they get out of college and try to get real jobs or get married. The scariest thing to me is most of these kids can VOTE and you know they have no idea about anything relating to politics.

Independent voter

August 19th, 2012
3:43 pm

Crazy Will Muschamp … Fla. 1st job as H.C. and Texas did not do well when he was coordinator… gators lose 4 or 5 games this year

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
3:43 pm

Destin Dwag is taking full advantage of the liquor sales in FL I see.

Destin don’t bet more than a weekends worth of beer money on the dWags winning the SEC this year.

poopdawg

August 19th, 2012
3:44 pm

That picture of Muschamp is priceless . 4ever , maybe he should to Tech because most of their recruits can’t spell cat.

southdawg

August 19th, 2012
3:44 pm

Beast- don’t worry about the string of decommits. Sometimes a staff needs to move on from kids…grades, off the field stuff or wanting to play the game.

Mr Dawg Muschamp allows visits but it’s been his policy since taking over that commits don’t visit SEC East teams or FSU. Nothing wrong with that imo. Just more PT to seel Tunsil or Tyler Moore.

Tunsil is all Dawg!!!

GT = 10 time loser to Mark Richt

August 19th, 2012
3:46 pm

Gators are falling apart.

Destin Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:46 pm

Josh, Kids that stay in State , close to support groups, friends and family tend to do better in school and life after sports, Go Dawgs !!

GatorNation19

August 19th, 2012
3:47 pm

Indie Voter- Texas was a Top 15 D every year Muschamp was DC and won a NC something UGA hasn’t done in over 30 years.

Wow

August 19th, 2012
3:47 pm

The kid saw what an idiot Muschamp is and wanted to visit other schools. Gator fans will spin it another way.

Tampa Gator

August 19th, 2012
3:48 pm

Not surprised. Something has been going on with Outlaw for a while. Another talented recruit will not be concerned about competing with Humphries, Green, Dunker, Garcia, Jackson…and others….at Florida.

Destin Dawg

August 19th, 2012
3:49 pm

Gators Will fall apart under crazy bipolar Muschamp !!

Tampa Gator

August 19th, 2012
3:50 pm

Wow…..

Gator fans do not need to spin anything……..everything you post about Florida on the AJC spins by itself.

Chas Morris

August 19th, 2012
3:55 pm

“They told me ‘the best guys play.’ Me being a competitor, I’m the type of guy who wants to get on the field early.”

I am sorry, but if your a competitor and want to get on the field early you have to earn being the best guys. The reality is in the SEC, if your starting early its because your team is not very good or you are a major variant. Its the hardest position to develop. Very few players start young in SEC. To me, it sounds like he realized the hard work involved to achieve this dream of playing early and UF was not going to be that place (ie. DJ Humphries)

poopdawg

August 19th, 2012
3:58 pm

Destin, wait till Muschamp realizes Pease didn’t bring Kellen Moore with him. He’s going to be Peasiiiiiss. Seriously , UF can’t be any worst on offense than they have been. Not sold on Pease , after 1 yr as OC ,as the answer but he couldn’t be any worst than fat ass.

Tampa Gator

August 19th, 2012
4:01 pm

Poopdawg…..

Both Florida and Alabama offered Pease the OC job…..so I doubt Muschamp or Saban care if you are sold on Pease or not.

GatorNation19

August 19th, 2012
4:05 pm

Maybe Muschamp should stop coaching and go 6-7 like Richt and ChokeG did two season ago. lmao

Duluth Dawg

August 19th, 2012
4:05 pm

Who else is waiting for Tide Troll to show up and comment on this story? He’ll be here in a few minutes with his lotion and hanky.

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
4:08 pm

Destin Dawg
August 19th, 2012
3:46 pm

Josh, Kids that stay in State , close to support groups, friends and family tend to do better in school and life after sports, Go Dawgs !!
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Sell that crazy some place else…..Crowell, Cootie and many other UGa players have been arrested, kicked off or failed out…..You quote is about regular students not you players obviously.

Pitbull

August 19th, 2012
4:10 pm

Joshua, come to Athens and UGA. You will love it.

The best 4 years of your life, or 3 if you leave for the NFL early.

cdpridg

August 19th, 2012
4:11 pm

Do what your heart tells ya Joshua…be a Dawg…wear the red n black and represent YOUR state proudly! Gooo Dawgs!!

BigDawg

August 19th, 2012
4:18 pm

Feeling bad for the gators, NOT!

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
4:22 pm

yea what cdpridg says…..go to UGa and you can be like 35:55minute Murray or Crowell. You will get the job given to you and never be as good as the hype….

1eyedJack

August 19th, 2012
4:24 pm

Will Muschamp, click you heels together three times and repeat after me.
You’re not in Texas anymore.

kerryb

August 19th, 2012
4:30 pm

Have you ever heard a story where CMR has told a recruit he can’t take visits? Never. CMR wants them 100% committed and once they visit other programs and choose UGA he knows they are committed.

Poopdawg

August 19th, 2012
4:31 pm

Tampa I hope you piss on yourself again today. I doubt Saben or Muschamp would care.

kerryb

August 19th, 2012
4:33 pm

GatorNation19
August 19th, 2012
4:05 pm

Maybe Muschamp should stop coaching and go 6-7 like Richt and ChokeG did two season ago. lmao

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Dude, you have forgotten that UF has had average seasons the last couple of years haven’t you?

Wow

August 19th, 2012
4:35 pm

@ Tampa Gator
Your comment to me makes no sense. Of course everything you post is crap.
Keep your hopes up high for your coach. He is a loser just like you.
Maybe your imposter will show up and you can whine about that.

Tampa gator, you are pathetic. End of story

Dawg-Gawn

August 19th, 2012
4:44 pm

UGA waiting on Laremy Tunsil, Tyrone Crowder with DeVondre Seymour in waiting…. Outlaw = UT or USCe.

Off topic:

RB Derrick Green on 8/02 named his top six teams – Michigan – Auburn – Ole Miss – TN – Oregon – Va Tech. Green made an unofficial visit to UGA yesterday and stayed through the evening before leaving for Auburn.

If we are still talking to RB’s, where does this place UGA with Alvin Kamara – Derrick Henry – Tyren Jones (visited UGA twice since his Bama commit) Greg Bryant. The way I read it, UGA is missing out on at least three of these recruits maybe all four?

Does anyone know?

Believe in the “G”

Independent voter

August 19th, 2012
4:52 pm

FSU is loaded for bear and will embarrass the Gators again this year.. after 4 or 5 SEC losses Muschamp will be on the HOT seat big time !

GatorNation19

August 19th, 2012
4:52 pm

Kerryb- Ga 16-11 UF 15-11 records the last 2 season. Both average.

GatorNation19

August 19th, 2012
4:57 pm

Indie Voter just like SC beating Ga again this season. If Ga doesn’t win a NC or BCS game this year CMR needs to be fired after gettig another cake walk w/o playing LSU, Bama or Arky during the season.

Blackoutanyone?

August 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

Blackoutanyone?
August 4th, 2012
2:38 am

Would not surprise me to see a few Florida prospects de-commit with the news of recruiting coordinator Aubrey Hill’s resignation.

Tampagator….. If I tell you a rooster dips snuff, you’d better check under his wing for a can.

A person SMART enough to know.....

August 19th, 2012
5:05 pm

What is the date the first LOI’s can be faxed to schools?

Bully John

August 19th, 2012
5:05 pm

The lug nuts are loose and the wheels are about to fall off the mighty Gayturd’s with Muschamp at the wheel. Face it UF doesn’t scare anyone with Muschamp coaching the Turds. He is just another average coach. I would laugh my butt off if UF resorted back to the days of Charlie Pell. They ran the best coach they EVER had off in Spurrier. The meltdown couldn’t happen to a better school.