Did Isaiah Crowell make wrong decision by going to UGA over Alabama?

Did Isaiah Crowell make the wrong decision by going to UGA rather than Alabama?

That’s a nuclear topic that was examined and debated by the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer’s Stephanie Pedersen that you can read by clicking here

Some of Pederson’s points:

*When the Bulldogs were recruiting Crowell, the entire fan base looked at him as the savior of that program. Some even said Richt’s job depended on it. Alabama didn’t have those types of expectations. Crowell could have been one of many stars in the Tide’s backfield.

*Crowell drew the ire of his Georgia teammates early with a lazy work ethic. They wouldn’t come out and say it, but they alluded to it all last summer. Laziness doesn’t win championships. If he had that work ethic at Alabama, he already would be at Jacksonville State.

Again, click here to read Pederson’s full commentary and then feel free to come back and discuss here.

– By AJC Sports

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TJ

July 1st, 2012
9:04 am

Maybe the question should have been would UGA have been better off if Crowell had gone somewhere else?
To answer this question- wouldn’t have mattered in the overall scheme of things, Bama would have just expected to get the work out of him like a plowhorse and wouldn’t have tried to help him. That was UGA’s downfall because Crowell doesn’t think he needs any help.

Bodidley

July 1st, 2012
9:05 am

Crowell would absolutly have been better off at Alabama.
Saben is much more a disciplinarian than Richt.
No way I would have my son play for Richt!

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

July 1st, 2012
9:07 am

Blame the cops in Athens, blame the cops in T-town…about right. as long as Richt continues to kiss the behind of his so called players then expect the same.

Mike Slive

July 1st, 2012
9:07 am

Tennessee and Florida, South Carolina are licking their chops waiting on these troubled Dawg’s… They ruin their season every year before it even starts.

Another UGA professor arrested for prostitution LOL

DirtyDawg

July 1st, 2012
9:08 am

Can’t argue with any of those premises…the arrest record under Richt does speak for itself. If you are someone that lacks discipline in your life, then UGA is likely not the best fit. Unfortunately, CMR needs to recognize this weakness and recruit different players even if the stars on recruiting sites suffer. Say whatever you want but the difference between a 5 star athlete and a 4 star athlete is very, very small and the coaching at the collegiate level will be the difference maker between two such athletes.

Rabun Sabun

July 1st, 2012
9:10 am

I happen to know that Alabama backed off from recruiting Crowell as they knew he had severe character issues.

Keith

July 1st, 2012
9:14 am

And the question of who will replaces Crowell? Hell we replaced him last year evey other game and would have again this year too. He was weak and a baby! Hit him hard and he was off crying. Hopefully Richt opened the door of the Butts-Mehre and told all his buddies, this cancer is gone and any others will be right behind him, UNDERSTAND RAMBO and OGLETREE?

Prometheus

July 1st, 2012
9:16 am

UGa fans calling Bama thugs is like one midget calling a rival midget “shorty”.

Losing My Religion

July 1st, 2012
9:17 am

I think the end result would have probably been the same for IC either way. His departure from Bama might not have been so flamboyant, since he would not have been so well known had he gone there. Still, his attitude would have done him in eventually. Probably sooner, rather than later, had he been in Tuscaloosa as opposed to Athens. If he’s lucky, he’ll get to play some JC ball now. That might make him famous enough to land a job as a car salesman in Columbus after he retires from his running back career.

Griffin

July 1st, 2012
9:20 am

At Alabama you have players like Xzavier Dickson and D Hart that steel from each other and pull knives but that gets swept uder the rug. That’s how they do it in Tuscaloosa.

Derrick Henry

July 1st, 2012
9:22 am

Great article this is exactly why I’m not going to UGA.

Losing My Religion

July 1st, 2012
9:23 am

If anyone in Georgia actually understood “how they do it in Tuscaloosa”, then we wouldn’t be having this conversation, would we?

Real Problem

July 1st, 2012
9:28 am

Let me get this out of the way…..the guy is a run your mouth JERK…..END OF STORY

Saban has the structure in place at Alabama to at least given the JERK a chance….kids do buy into the Alabama way. If not, it is the highway (Chris Carter’s son). JERK would have been mentored by Trent Richardson and others at Alabama. He would hardly have been the star.

Saban has a saying at Alabama….”we have good people doing good things”.

Now Georgia fans……can we say WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE DOING GOOD THINGS?

I do feel sorry for many of our good players that are solid citizens, but to suggest there is not a problem……then you would fall into the JERK DEPARTMENT.

My take is simple…..if you can not control YOUR team…..resign.

Losing My Religion

July 1st, 2012
9:39 am

Mark,

I wouldn’t count on that JSU job. They already have a good Coach.

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

July 1st, 2012
9:40 am

We agree with everybody. Saban would have kicked this thug off the team within a month.
We agree with everybody. McClendon maybe could do more to help the
“brothers”.
Oh, and would some of you guys PLZ look up the word “paragaph” and do it!!!!!

RHall55

July 1st, 2012
9:41 am

I like what 757Dawg said, UGA did not fail Crowell, Crowell failed UGA; we, all make decisions in life and have said should I have made a different decision!! Crowell made the decision to go to UGA and now he has to live with his decisions on his actions!! The decisions he made reflect his true character!! Live with it young man!!!

UGAJD

July 1st, 2012
9:43 am

No one knows if Crowell would have been better off if he had gone to Alabama, but UGA sure as hell would have.

dawgsfaninin

July 1st, 2012
9:43 am

If anyone needs to know anything about this KID just look at his Twitter. Says alot about who this kid is. Just look at some of his post the day of all of this stuff. Cant blame the University for this one. And by the way…………….. Saban is the DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RHall55

July 1st, 2012
9:45 am

Please give us an update on Leonard Floyd and John Atkins!! Tired of these IC articles!!!!

UA Grad

July 1st, 2012
9:45 am

Players were scared to death of Coach Bryant. He was a dictator. He pushed players beyond what they thought they could endure. He won championships. He demanded it.

Players are scared to death of Coach Saban. He is a dictator. He pushes players beyond what they think they can endure. He wins championships. He demands it.

Why do you think Duron Carter will never wear a Crimson jersey? He doesn’t want to be a champion either on or off the field.

dawgsfaninin

July 1st, 2012
9:45 am

If Ifs and buts were chips and nuts we would all be having a party.

Technically Perfect

July 1st, 2012
9:46 am

That depends – do they condone felony weapons possession at Alabama?

Glenn

July 1st, 2012
9:53 am

The difference, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, is Nick Saban doesn’t put up with any antics from his players and they know it whereas Mark Richt tries to be his players “friend,” and they just don’t respect him, or the UGA program as much. In other words, I think if he HAD gone to Alabama instead of UGA, we wouldn’t be having this same conversation because he would have either been too respectful of his head coach, his teammates would have kept him in line, or he would have been chased from the team from the get go.

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A person SMART enough to know......

July 1st, 2012
9:56 am

Jesus could SAVE Everybody…………..Richt Can’t

Mike Slive

July 1st, 2012
10:01 am

Auburn will take him if he can get the charges dropped. Alabama is out of the question.

GSUAndrew

July 1st, 2012
10:07 am

Alabama wanted Crowell badly then and now. Saban probably contacted him over the weekend. If Crowell had been stopped at Alabama, Saban would have made one phone call and we would never know about the traffic stop.

Mark Ricked

July 1st, 2012
10:08 am

Smitty is the biggest idiot that I have ever seen on a message board. Alabama was one of the last teams to have black athletes. Read a history book. What are you, a seven year old?

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

July 1st, 2012
10:11 am

The truth is Crowell should have taken the offer from Trupa and Lupa and like Mike Dyer he wouldn’t have had to change a bit to play at thugsville in auburn. Mark Richt nor Nick Saban will change IC and the damage he can do to your team isn’t worth the 1000 yards. This is no longer about a thug RB at UGA but is about Mark Richt and his failure to do his job. It appears Bobby Bowden was correct in his view that Mark is just to nice of a guy too be in charge this day and time in college football.

RNB

July 1st, 2012
10:12 am

Fact is for some reason the Athens police love to arrest football players. In Alabama the first call is to Nick Saban. This is from a former Alabama player.

Game Changer

July 1st, 2012
10:16 am

@rhall

People who have failed UGA the past 6 years:
Michael Adams, ( 2 years: McQuackity ), Richt, Athletic Board of Directors, Board of Regents, Assistant football coaches,

AJC sports reports to scared to write articles on the facts. Mark Bradley writes an article defending Richt regarding Crowell, total BS, Crowell should never have been offered a scholarship, everyone knew he was bad news. Then he flunked a second drug test before Florida with over a dozen more players and Richt / McQuackity cover it up. The problem is the kids but is has been fostered and allowed by the ZERO LEADERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY AT UGA.

Real Problem

July 1st, 2012
10:17 am

GSUAndrew…..push that head deeper in the sand.

LMAO

July 1st, 2012
10:18 am

“If Crowell had been stopped at Alabama, Saban would have made one phone call and we would never know about the traffic stop.”

TBone

July 1st, 2012
10:21 am

As far as Crowell’s decision making goes, it sucks. Not because he went to UGA over UA but it appears the young man was nothing but a self-indulged thug. He has managed to make Mike Vick’s decision making ability look pretty dang good. I don’t know if Crowell is capable of grasping the magnitude of his decision making at this time but life is full of decisions and we are all the product of our decisions. May God bless this young man because he’s gonna need HIM.

The Tide is Rolling and Nothing can stop it

July 1st, 2012
10:23 am

Well yes, if he wanted to win a championship. But, it’s easy to see that Crowell had the “get mine” mentality that keeps penal colony teams from winning championships.

If he could have dedicated himself to a team and have goals, he would be a pre-season all american at Bama this year.

UGA is a joke and the hits just keep on coming!

phooie

July 1st, 2012
10:25 am

To paraphrase former Governor Lester Maddox, “We need a better class of football players.”

The Tide is Rolling and Nothing can stop it

July 1st, 2012
10:25 am

You guys heard of Duron Carter? Doesn’t matter how talented you if you don’t buy into the team. That’s how you win titles dogs; not blackouts…

Gorilla Biscuit

July 1st, 2012
10:28 am

If I was IC’s Mama or Grandma and IC was a great athlete but was want to hang around with the neighborhood ‘hoods, then I wouldn’t want him to go to UGA either, because I would know that a hyena cannot change his spots, and his dumb-ass self would surely get arrested and probably wind up in prison with his Baby-Daddy.

But then again if I had a son who was a great athlete he wouldn’t be a hyena ‘hood rat because I would not be in prison and I would have been a presence in his life whether I was “still” married to his mother or not, and he would not embarrass me and my beloved UGA unless it was for something like exiting an alley improperly on a scooter.

IC probably lit up a blunt on the drive back to Columbus.

George Stein

July 1st, 2012
10:30 am

I suppose no one will ever know, but I think the bigger issue is placing the hopes of a franchise on a 17 or 18 year old. They make mistakes, and Crowell’s were big and public. It’s really a tragic story because he is undeniably talented. I hope he gets his life together and realizes the full value of his God given talent.

Jake from state farm

July 1st, 2012
10:36 am

In Georgia, they don’t want stupid dopehead gangstas carrying guns. He didn’t go anywhere else because the other schools don’t accept an “X” as a signature.

Saban Never Sleeps

July 1st, 2012
10:38 am

Does this officially lock the Leg Humpers and UGA for this year’s Fulmer Cup Award? You Leg Humpers are a bunch of idiots. One big cycle of underperformance (during Season) followed by we will win it all next year (After your bowl loss) followed by we are the greatest (The Leg Humper Offical Off Season Chant) followed by a bunch of arrest and undesciplined behavior (Any offeason day) followed by a heavy dose of reality when your underperformance starts again.

Ben

July 1st, 2012
10:38 am

The ACC Police has been out of control in this town for years. They are revenue based as opposed to service based. I drove through a road block on Milledge avenue on father’s day at 11:30 am. That’s right, they were after the quite dangerous church crowd on fathers day! Its a problem in this town to say the least. I personally find road blocks to be unconstitutional, as do 12 other states. It’s a way for over bearing police departments to work around the fourth amendment. Btw, the word “thug” should be banned from Uga fans mouths. It’s incredibly racist and I cringe when I hear it or read it. It’s a way for people with closet prejudice to slander black people publicly. It’s unacceptable.

Flo - Ri - Duh

July 1st, 2012
10:44 am

Crowell made a lot of bad decisions …. where he went to school was far down the list. At Bama he would have been red shirted, played one year, ended up in jail, and kicked off the team- just like at UGA. He has no moral discipline….. raised without a real daddy influence? His problems would have been less publicized at Bummer because the newspapers and local TV are pro Bummer and keep quiet about the team problems. Unlike the AJC which despises UGA’s success over Tech. Crowell is a bad seed and a bad influence on the other players. He is not a leader in a good sense. Good bye and good luck – some where else- maybe LSU with Muttinbubba.

Game Changer

July 1st, 2012
10:45 am

@Ben

“Thug” knows no race:

Tampa Gator

July 1st, 2012
10:47 am

Bama fans……

Crowell picked Georgia because it was his best chance to play early….period. He would have gone to Bama…most likely….if they badly needed a RB like Georgia did at the time. Problem is….no position in college football is given to you without hard work and expectations. He did neither. The freshment of the Year in the SEC was a joke.

Also…Bama fans…..looks like your odds of landing Demarcus Walker took a big hit down in Gainesville this weekend. The final piece of the “Fabulous Four” from Jacksonville looks like he will most likely be a Gator with the other three of the four (all best friends). He spent the entire day with Muschamp and the DC and came away very strong to the Gators. He still will be taking his final official visists….including Bama…..but also stated that his last official will be to Florida.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

July 1st, 2012
10:47 am

@Ben…you can’t handle the truth…Racist vs Realist….50 years of playing folks to do nothing but the same has us all over the barrel!

Game Changer

July 1st, 2012
10:48 am

@florida stfu

Being raised without a father is no excuse to be stupid and thug like. I hate the apologist for bad behavior. He has had plenty of men in his life directing him the right way, CROWELL CHOOSE A DIFFERENT PATH, Crowell is not a child. Once one knows right from wrong then that individual must live with the consequences of choice. We are a nation of laws, live by them or die by them.

Flo - Ri - Duh

July 1st, 2012
10:49 am

Thug belongs to no particular race but can be associated with street gangs, etc. Don’t know if Crowell was a thug because he had no criminal record.- until now, if he is found guilty. He is a bad influence and obviously had a lot of bad “habits” associated with thugs. I wish for him a change o attitude and God in his life. He needs a positive influence in his life and he need to get rid of his old friends and old attitude.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

July 1st, 2012
10:49 am

Bama will get great recruits whether Walker selects Bama or not. It appears you need him worse since you have a few defensive folks that didn’t make the grade.

Game Changer

July 1st, 2012
10:55 am

@florida

god has nothing to do with whether someone is a good person or not. More bible thumping crooks and liars in the world than thugs.

It is 100% up to Crowell to decide he has had enough, hit the bottom and want change, The breaking point for this type behavior in males is 25 years of age. If Crowell lives long enough to make past 25 years of age, then he may have a chance but it is ” Crowells choice to change, no one can do it for him “, if he decides to change, I hope thier are family members ready to help, until then, they cannot do anything.