UGA’s Mark Richt and Georgia Tech’s Paul Johnson agree — state is No. 1 priority

Paul Johnson and Mark Richt signed more out-of-state recruits than normal this year. However, both shake hands in agreement that the state of Georgia is their No. 1 recruiting priority (AJC)

This year, Paul Johnson and Mark Richt signed more out-of-state recruits than normal. However, both coaches shake hands in agreement that the state of Georgia is their No. 1 recruiting priority (AJC)

UGA’s Mark Richt and Georgia Tech’s Paul Johnson both reaffirmed to the AJC that the state of Georgia is their top recruiting priority.

The state of Georgia is one of the nation’s top manufacturers of football talent, producing around 175-185 major-college prospects per year. The Class of 2013 is considered one of the strongest and deepest ever, as more than 100 of the state’s high school juniors have been already been offered D1 football scholarships.

There’s a lot of 2013 star power, too, with Grayson DE Robert Nkemdiche and Troup LB Reuben Foster ranked as the nation’s No. 1 and No. 2 overall prospect by Rivals, Scout, and 247sports.com, respectively. Also, Dooly County DT Montravius Adams is creeping up in the top 10 on many national lists.

Last month, UGA had a larger than normal percentage of signees from outside of the borders of talent-rich Georgia – with 8 of 19 members of the 2012 recruiting class from out of state. UGA landed the top two running backs from North Carolina, Keith Marshall and Todd Gurley, along with Florida’s top overall prospect in OL John Theus.

UGA did so well with recruiting the Southeast this year that some speculate that the Bulldogs may recruit more regionally moving forward. UGA’s Mark Richt said that’s not going to happen under his watch.

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“I think what you’ll see historically from us is about 2/3 of the team is going to be from Georgia … and I think it’s going to stay that way,” Richt told the AJC. “Any given year, it may be a little different, like this year. But for the most part, we’re normally going to get 2/3 of our team from in state and the other 1/3 from out of state. I don’t think that will change.

“In any given year, you recruit the best players you think you can get after. Some of them decide to come to your school and some of them don’t. So we’ve got to keep watching film, evaluating and then go see these recruits later in the spring. We’ve got to make our best judgment on how to rank them, how to stack them, and who to offer and who not to offer … and then go ahead and see who you get.

“I can assure you that the state of Georgia is always the top recruiting priority for the University of Georgia.”

UGA has eight commitments for 2013, with six being homegrown products, led by Newnan safety Tray Matthews. UGA’s two imports may be the top overall prospects in their respective states, RB Derrick Henry of Yulee, Fla., and WR Tramel Terry of Goose Creek, S.C.

Meanwhile at Georgia Tech, more than half of the school’s last two recruiting classes have been from out of state. Last month’s haul included top-tier prospects from Alabama (QB Justin Thomas) and Florida (RB Marcus Allen), along with Australia (DT Adam Gotsis).

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There is speculation among Georgia Tech fans that the Yellow Jackets have to recruit more from a regional standpoint because of the school’s academic standards. Georgia Tech’s Paul Johnson didn’t outright refute the notion but made it clear that Georgia is always the talent pool of priority.

“Academics at Georgia Tech are always a concern, but we haven’t changed the way we’re recruiting,” Johnson told the AJC. “Our areas of emphasis haven’t really changed. We’ve re-divided them among our coaching staff some. But as far as where we are recruiting, it hasn’t really changed.”

What about the in-state prospects?

“Georgia is always No. 1,” Johnson said. “If you can get two players of the same and they can both get in school, you’d certainly take the local kid,” Johnson said. “But we’re not going to limit ourselves to just recruiting locally. If we can find good players that can qualify academically and get in school, then we’ll look other places. You know, recruiting works both ways. A recruit has to have interest in your school, too.”

Georgia Tech projects to sign 14-15 recruits for next year, and is waiting on its first commitment for 2013.

What do you think? Are UGA and Georgia Tech signing enough in-state recruits? Should they be signing more or less? Please post your comments below.

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RTR #15

March 21st, 2012
12:16 am

That’s just sad that the #1 and #2 prospects in the country are both from Georgia and neither one of them are going to play for Georgia or Georgia Tech. Sad, sad, sad, sad …. ROLL TIDE!!!!

FL Jacket

March 21st, 2012
12:17 am

It occurred to me that nobody ever gives Notre Dame crap for not recruiting the state of Indiana enough…

WnE

March 21st, 2012
12:57 am

re:
FL Jacket
March 21st, 2012
12:17 am

It occurred to me that nobody ever gives Notre Dame crap for not recruiting the state of Indiana enough…
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That’s because ND can come down to GA. whenever they need to and snag a 6-6 290 lb. DE like Stephon Tuitt and put GT to shame while putting a boot in Coach Kung Fu Panda’s keyster (sp?) when it comes to Recruiting Prospects while great academics also.

Seriously though Indiana HS FB is ranked in the bottom 1/3 of HS FB in the USA, whereas GA HS FB is consistently ranked in the TOP-5 , and in many years is the Number-4 state for producing elite D1-A Talent.

The best conference in all of CFB is the SEC, for 2012 25% of the SEC signees played their HS FB in Georgia.

Enough said!

A LOT of those signees are academic qualifiers for GT, but instead of getting better at Recruiting, the GT staff would rather make excuses and blame Academics, much like CPJ’s boot-licking-toadies.

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
12:59 am

That is because anyone with any knowledge about college football knows Notre Dame is THE national recruiter and has been for longer than you have been alive . They do NOT and never have had quality regional base to recruit the caliber of players they need from . Even Urban Meyer acknowledged that if you took the ND job your life would basically be lived out on a jet .

Of course , even knowing that I can see the reason you might ask why no one brings up Notre Dame anyway . It probably has to do with people too stupid to know anything about ND recruiting not even knowing who they do or don’t recruit in the first place .

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
1:01 am

WnE explained it in another way … but made the same points ;-)

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
1:01 am

Tech students admitted for next fall boast an average 3.9 GPA and a 1430 out of 1600 on the math and verbal SAT. By high school graduation these students would have taken an average of eight college-level courses, such as Advanced Placement or International Baccalaureate. About 14,700 students applied for one of the 2,400 spots for fall or the 250 spots for this summer. The admitted class represents 86 countries and 49 states. Getting ATHLETE students from Georgia to get in and stay in TECH is difficult. Even with students this smart it is very hard to graduate. Only 1 in 4 — 24 percent – of entering freshmen in Georgia’s public four-year colleges get a degree within four years, according to a new database compiled by the Chronicle of Higher Education that looks at nearly every U.S. college. The University of Georgia has by far the best completion rate in four years — 51.3 percent, compared to just 35.1 percent for Milledgeville’s Georgia College and State University, No. 2 on the list. Georgia Tech is third-highest at 32.9 percent. Six years seems to be the ticket: Statewide, about 52 percent of students manage to complete a four-year degree within six years. Nearly 80 percent of students at both UGA and Georgia Tech are able to graduate in six years. It’s about 60 percent for Georgia College, according to the Chronicle’s database. It is easier to get through UGA even for MORON Athletes. For TECH to get a better Graduation that the NCAA wants will be very difficult. TECH fans and grads are happy that TECH just doesn’t hand out diplomas like SEC schools. UGa and the SEC colleges can get almost ANY Moron in if they can play a sport.The Indianapolis Star newspaper recently posted an article regarding “special admits” to colleges. So called “special admits” refers to the preferences given to athletic recruits that would not normally meet admissions standards. While there is nothing surprising about the fact that colleges use different standards for some athletes, the interesting point is the degree of preference given.
The newspaper studied 55 of the countries largest public universities and found that the preferences given to special admits at many schools was disproportionately favoring athletes, particularly football players. For example, in 2004 the University of California reported that 95% of freshman football players on scholarship were special recruits while 47% of all freshman athletes on scholarships were special admits. In contrast, only 2% of all freshman students were special admits. At the University of Georgia and Texas A&M University, 94% of freshman football players were special admits. In 2008 73% of the University of Georgia’s freshmen football players were special admits.

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
1:06 am

Your choice is clear then … Georgia Tech should stop even pretending and shut down what is left of the program .

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
1:13 am

WnE you really don’t much about WHO can qualify and Who Tech will take. The SEC can get ANY MORON in and carry them to graduation. Tuitt would have been great for Tech but his mom liked ND. Many kids educated in public schools in the south will never make it through Tech but could graduate Manga Cum Laude in Sports & Leisure type degrees at UGa, Bama, LSU. UT and the list goes on for the Special Education Colleges of the south.

blueforever

March 21st, 2012
1:14 am

Another day, another crybaby Tech fan blabbering on over academics.

Techie2

March 21st, 2012
1:15 am

@FL Jacket, Indiana high school football is awful. Think before you post

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
1:16 am

Why Crush? You should shut down Bama because you don’t educate your players. Still not that many more make it to the NFL for a career longer than the 3 years. The SEC schools give the kid crappy degrees that are meaningless and players don’t go pro so what have they accomplished?

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
1:21 am

Some good might come out of it . With a little collective brainstorming maybe we can figure out what to do to help the Jackets maintain a scrap of football dignity . People like SMART might decide to finally push to make Jacket football an intramural type event . :-)
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“For most schools and campuses, Intramural sports are used to promote wellness and allow students who do not compete on a national level an opportunity to be active.”

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intramural_sports < insert Jackets here and watch em thrive

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
1:22 am

blue…just explained the FACTS as to why it is difficult for Tech to recruit this state & many Southern states. The pathetic government school system of Georgia(& other southern states) doesn’t prepare many student athletes for demanding college degrees.

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
1:27 am

What SMART is saying is Paul Johnson really needed to make a huge push to lock down all the great recruits at last years Comic Con . It was in Atlanta and everything @!!!!!!!!

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
1:40 am

If you are crazy enough to think that Crimson Crush then OK by me. I expect more from the State. I expect them to use my tax money and push our students to STUDY more than a damn children’s game. I expect the next generation to be smart had prepared to help get this country out of the crappy situation we are in. Dumb Football players with worthless degrees are not going to accomplish that. The Kardashian types are not going to do it either. This generation is going to have to work harder than any before to provide a better living for their families.

Terry

March 21st, 2012
2:13 am

A person SMART enough to know……, So what you’re saying is that Tech recruits Rocket Scientist, and that’s the reason y’all can’t win? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
So if Techie’s are so smart, how come y’all don’t have more Rhodes Scholars than the University of Georgia?

Crimson Crush

March 21st, 2012
2:25 am

If your team can’t pass this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_education_class

You will NEVER see them do this http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/_/game/bcs-championship

There is nothing particularly complicated about it . Why do so many supposedly intelligent people have trouble grasping the concept ?

Terry

March 21st, 2012
2:38 am

A person SMART enough to know……, Even Bama has more Rhodes Scholars than Tech. I guess you Techie’s aren’t so smart after all. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

kingdaddy

March 21st, 2012
3:04 am

Smart
if you nerds were so smart, you would figure out a way to win a game. Can’t believe you guys are still blogging…

kingdaddy

March 21st, 2012
3:05 am

Goodnight cruel world…

Stinger2

March 21st, 2012
4:43 am

What difference does it make if the player is a Georgia or out of state player? Just sign the best player(s) the school can get that fulfill its needs. Ross and O`Leary recruited well out of state and won at GT

Mountain Dawg

March 21st, 2012
5:18 am

I hear the NERDS are heavily recruiting a kid who is touted as the ‘Second Coming Of Reggie Ball’.

gtfanfrom1951

March 21st, 2012
5:58 am

How about the second coming of Joe H.? but then he beat UGA!

slydog

March 21st, 2012
6:06 am

CMR,CMR CMR, if the state is your first priority, then why oh why, every year, your first set of commitments almost always come from out of state? Why do the top recruits you may have offered or are “evaluating,” almost always hear “back” from Georgia until 4 months from NSD? If the stae was the #1 priority fort these two clowns, then 70% of the top 20 players wouldn’t leave the state every year.

Paddy

March 21st, 2012
6:24 am

Crimson…………do you really believe that Tech should shut down their program? Wow!! You must be related to “tree killer”.

Dawgvet

March 21st, 2012
6:33 am

A double entendre from CPJ when he says: “Georgia is always No. 1″ ?

GT Fan

March 21st, 2012
6:49 am

I dream of GT able to run an run based offense someday as impressive as Oregon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvM2KDn5yCo&feature=g-vrec&context=G24fb193RVAAAAAAAAAg

Reality bytes

March 21st, 2012
7:07 am

“So if Techie’s are so smart, how come y’all don’t have more Rhodes Scholars than the University of Georgia?”

Tech doesn’t consider underwater basket weaving as Rhode Scholar material. Just saying.

bitter grassy knoll

March 21st, 2012
7:15 am

I cant believe im saying this, thanks for attacking bammer and crimson curd

way to go —SMART——nerb boy—hahahaha

DOG2

March 21st, 2012
7:17 am

RTR#15>>>>I didnt know that ND and RF had already signed, when did that happen i must have missed it?

RedandBlackDAWG

March 21st, 2012
7:19 am

I think a lot of folks have forgotten how it was when you are young. Didn’t you ever look forward to a new environment or adventure in your life. Didn’t you see in your mind, sometimes a better situation by going to a new place when you could. A lot of these kids don’t come from the greatest family life situations or neighborhoods, and they want an opportunity to experience life in a different area. Look at it from that point of view and you will see why it seems easier to recruit from out of state, than it sometimes seems to be able to recruit in state. Young kids seek adventure and in their minds a lot of times, they equate that to leaving the area they have spent their entire life in. I know I did when I was young. My task was a little easier though, because I went in the military so travel wasn’t a problem. Location sometimes was, but I can truly say, that there was never a location I went to, that I couldn’t find something good to remember about it.
These are young kids we are dealing with these days. many of them with NFL stars in their eyes, before they are juniors in high school. They get lavish praise heaped on them constantly and often times, that is all that is needed from a coach to convince them to go to this school or another. Some are influenced by success at the college football level and some do good and some know they made a mistake. UGA recruits our instate school kids, just as much or better than a lot of areas, but you will find those that want to leave and relocate for the reasons above and I imagine even a few more than has been mentioned.
If it had anything to do with the short comings of the coaches at UGA, UGA would not have attracted so much out of state talent like they have the last few years.

JB

March 21st, 2012
7:30 am

I’m a Dawg, and I’ll say this for Coach Johnson because he can’t.. Out of those 185 or so D1 prospects in Georgia, 150 I would say could not get in Tech or stay in. That’s just the truth, so it really puts Tech behind the 8 ball

BobDawg

March 21st, 2012
7:36 am

RED AND BLACK… kudos to your post… kids are gonna leave the state to go elsewhere and kids are coming to UGA from other states as we have a tremendous name regionally both academically and sports wise in all sports.

FL Jacket

March 21st, 2012
7:51 am

JB…

Thank you for saying that, although I think the number is probably less than 150 who couldn’t get in. Tech, like Notre Dame and Stanford, have to recruit more regionally and nationally sometimes because their talent pool is much smaller.

For all of those mocking Tech fans for introducing academics into a football debate…we are talking about COLLEGE football aren’t we? Isn’t representing your institution on and off the field the criteria for which you measure successful recruiting?

Larry

March 21st, 2012
7:59 am

A person SMART enough to know…..should be smart enough to use paragraphs..

DP

March 21st, 2012
7:59 am

Richt I like you, but this comment that you recruit Georghia 1st is a joke. Maybe if you did recruit Georgia 1st, you’d either be sunned by your success or it would prove that your coaching staff has been less than stellar at coaching-up recruits. But for surrounding schools to walk into your backyard and get the best recruits year in and year out speaks volumns.

TX Jacket

March 21st, 2012
8:19 am

The goal for any coach should be to recruit players that will be an asset to the football team but, more importantly, stay in school and get a degree. The NCAA commercial says perfectly that the vast majority of athletes will not go pro in their sport so the college should try to get them the education to better their lives. I wouldn’t expect most bama fans to understand that concept given how they accept Saban running off players every year so they can recruit 28 new ones.

Just Saying

March 21st, 2012
8:31 am

@a person SMART enough
Please, stop it you silly boy. Posts like yours regarding GT academics and athletes are hilarious, where do you get your talking points?

Do you honestly believe readers are going to believe GT football and basketball players score an average SAT of 1430 with a 3.9 GPA? If you don’t know better let me tell you -THAT JUST AIN’T SO! GT accepts athletes with lower SAT scores and GPA, that’s a fact. To insinuate that GT holds athletes to the same entrance requirements as regular applicants is disingenuous, pure fallacy. I wouldn’t deny that GT may choose to restrict its pool of prospects, however how restrictive is pure conjecture. In the event you are not aware GT offered 11 members of the current Freshman class at The Univ of Georgia, the Dream Team, and those 11 are instate.

If I were to accept as truth your post I would then have to conclude Javaris Crittenton and Glen Rice Jr both scored in the 1460 SAT range and 3.9 GPA. I’m sorry, I don’t believe that. GT has a Fr football player who was not NCAA eligible out of HS in 2010 after having signed with Auburn, yet GT has him in the Fr class. Did he suddenly increase the GPA or SAT? How do you go from not meeting the 2.2 core GPA and 860 SAT minimum NCAA qualifying to a 3.9 and 1460 which you say GT requires?

The problem with GT football recruiting isn’t academics it is exactly what Fish Fry said “a recruit has to have interest in your school too”. Fact is top tier prospects are not interested in playing at GT. The offensive scheme doesn’t develop OL, TE, RB, QB, making it a difficult sell for GT. Add in the weak ACC, small stadium, poor attendance, and lack of game day atmosphere it’s no wonder they aren’t interested.

Let’s dispense with the academic BS. About the “special admits” my understanding is GT
REFUSES to release that information hiding behind privacy excuses. Perhaps the AJC writer could request the info, but then again he never files an open records request with the GT Ath Dept. No, he’s too busy being a cheerleader rather than a journalist. Maybe one day.

HighTech

March 21st, 2012
8:41 am

WnE

March 21st, 2012
12:57 am
re:
FL Jacket
March 21st, 2012
12:17 am

It occurred to me that nobody ever gives Notre Dame crap for not recruiting the state of Indiana enough…
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That’s because ND can come down to GA. whenever they need to and snag a 6-6 290 lb. DE like Stephon Tuitt and put GT to shame while putting a boot in Coach Kung Fu Panda’s keyster (sp?) when it comes to Recruiting Prospects while great academics also.

Seriously though Indiana HS FB is ranked in the bottom 1/3 of HS FB in the USA, whereas GA HS FB is consistently ranked in the TOP-5 , and in many years is the Number-4 state for producing elite D1-A Talent.

The best conference in all of CFB is the SEC, for 2012 25% of the SEC signees played their HS FB in Georgia.

Enough said!

A LOT of those signees are academic qualifiers for GT, but instead of getting better at Recruiting, the GT staff would rather make excuses and blame Academics, much like CPJ’s boot-licking-toadies.
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WnE…UGA is hiring a Director of On-Campus Recruiting…You should apply!

HighTech

March 21st, 2012
8:42 am

How many Rhodes Scholars post on these blogs?

Bigdsel

March 21st, 2012
8:44 am

Even Paul Johnson knows Georgia is number one. Go dawgs

FL Jacket

March 21st, 2012
8:48 am

Just Saying…

Read the AJC investigation…

http://www.ajc.com/hotjobs/content/sports/stories/2008/12/28/acadmain_1228_3DOT.html

Grades do matter in recruiting. When GT was trying to recruit “like everyone else” under CGO and CCG…we had some really good athletes, but we also ended up on academic probation. The APR rates of CCG’s teams were bordering on potentially losing scholarships, and CPJ has brought in athletes that are increasing them by the year. But since the general student body flunks out at a pretty high rate, I don’t know if the football team will ever reach Duke-like APR numbers.

If you’ve never attended Georgia Tech…then just shut up about using the academic requirements as an excuse.

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
8:55 am

JUST SAYING…….I am not saying TECH players are as smart as the average TECH student. That is part of the ISSUE. Look at Who the Athletes are competing in class with. You see that FACT that only 30% of the SMART Tech students can get a degree in 4 years but we expect Athletes to do it in 5. Well it take even the smart Tech students 6 years to really get the graduation rate up.

TECH doesn’t Offer DUMBED DOWN MAJORS. Tech professors don’t care WHO you are. If you don’t make the GRADE you don’t PASS. Not Everybody gets the HONOR of attaining a Georgia Institute of Technology Diploma. UGa SPECIAL ADMITS so many players it is a joke.

Saban Never Sleeps

March 21st, 2012
8:56 am

This article is more whining from Carvell. bobo is still the Offensive Coordinator at UGA…nuff said

FL Jacket

March 21st, 2012
8:59 am

SMART…

Tech professors carry a little more clout than Jan Kemp don’t they?

A person SMART enough to know......

March 21st, 2012
9:04 am

JUST SAYING….I NEVER SAID the football players have the 3.9 & 1460. That is what the Students that are applying to get in TECH this Summer and Fall average. That is the TYPE of classmate the Student Athlete at Tech competes with everyday in class.

lucky21

March 21st, 2012
9:10 am

Take it from someone actually attending Tech; GT is a tough school even if you ride the M-train to get your degree. It is still alot harder to graduate than the majority of other schools even though engineering majors poke fin at the management program we are the only ones qualified to do that because the management program is still top 25 in the nation, and is improving yearly.

Worth Repeating

March 21st, 2012
9:11 am

From Just Sayin: In the event you are not aware GT offered 11 members of the current Freshman class at The Univ of Georgia, the Dream Team, and those 11 are instate.

The problem with GT football recruiting isn’t academics it is exactly what Fish Fry said “a recruit has to have interest in your school too”. Fact is top tier prospects are not interested in playing at GT. The offensive scheme doesn’t develop OL, TE, RB, QB, making it a difficult sell for GT. Add in the weak ACC, small stadium, poor attendance, and lack of game day atmosphere it’s no wonder they aren’t interested

GTfan2012

March 21st, 2012
9:12 am

Forget it guys. Injecting academics into this discussion is pointless. With the Bama fans, I actually get it. They are essentially a minor league NFL franchise. Their coach cares nothing about academics or even the players that are playing for him, except that they will get him to his goal of winning. They have won two of the last three MNCs, so I totally get that Bama fans are myopically focused on only National Championships.

UGA fans on the other hand, you’d think they’d have a bit more class. I give Mark Richt credit, he has at least done some things right… like not oversigning. UGA is actually a relatively highly rated university (relative to the rest of the SEC anyway) and really much closer to Vandy academically than Alabama. Which makes sense, since their football results have been much closer to Vandy than Alabama recently, too.

Worth Repeating

March 21st, 2012
9:15 am

“.I NEVER SAID the football players have the 3.9 & 1460. That is what the Students that are applying to get in TECH this Summer and Fall average”

Last year’s incoming freshman class at UGA had an average 3.83 GPA and 1375 on the SAT. The academic enterence requirements between TECH and UGA are minimal.