Urban Meyer calls Big Ten’s gentlemen’s agreement for recruiting “nonsense”

Master recruiter Urban Meyer convinced 8 prospects to switch to Ohio State in a two-month span (AP)

Master recruiter Urban Meyer convinced 8 prospects to switch to Ohio State in a two-month span (AP)

Urban Meyer told AJC that the so-called Big Ten “gentlemen’s agreement” to not recruit each other’s commitments was “nonsense” on Wednesday.

“It’s nonsense,” Meyer said. “First of all, there’s no agreement. And then a kid has the right to go to school wherever he wants. If a kid is interested in a school, he has the right to go look at that school — and that will never change.

“I really don’t worry about anybody else. I just worry about our football team and the way we do things. We do it the right way here.”

In the two-month span after being hired at Ohio State, Meyer convinced eight players committed to other schools to change their minds and sign with the Buckeyes, according to CBSSports. Meyer’s aggressive style of recruiting –perfected from his days in the SEC — angered fellow Big Ten coaches.

Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio said it was “unethical” to try to poach another school’s commitments but later said his statements were “completely taken out of context.” Wisconsin’s Bret Bielema was so hot and bothered by the situation that he picked up the red hotline phone by his desk to speak directly with Meyer.

The idea of a “gentlemen’s agreement” in recruiting was so comical in college football coaching circles that even one of Meyer’s archenemies was more than happy to defend the recruiting tactics.

“I just had someone call me about things being said about this ‘gentlemen’s agreement’ in the Big Ten, how Urban came in there and shouldn’t be recruiting guys who were committed,” USC coach Lane Kiffin told the AJC on Wednesday.

“For me, as a head coach, I work for the school and the athletic director. I’d hate to ever go to my athletic director and say ‘Hey, there was a great player that hadn’t signed his LOI [letter-of-intent] yet and we might have a chance at … but we’re not going to recruit him because he’s committed somewhere.’ I would think that there are some athletic directors that would fire you for that. I know some coaches over there were upset about him going after their kids but I think that just shows what a great competitor he is.”

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Meyer has assigned one of assistants, former North Carolina interim coach Everett Withers, to recruit the state of Georgia for Ohio State.

“Well there has to be a reason for Ohio State to go down there and recruit against Georgia and Georgia Tech,” Meyer said. “There has to be some type of tie. It may be a certain kind of quarterback that fits our system, or maybe it’s a Percy Harvin-type of player that wants to be in our offense. Or you could have a prospect related to someone who went to Ohio State, or you may have a kid who wants to play in front of a stadium of 105,000 people. There would have to be a reason. Coach Withers knows Georgia well and will be spending a lot of time down there. To say we’re going to saturate Georgia with our recruiting efforts, we’re not. We’re going to ‘cherry pick’ and go after the best players. If someone in Georgia is interested in Ohio State, we’ll go after him.”

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166 comments Add your comment

Buckeye239

February 8th, 2012
6:42 pm

Urban Meyer will dominate recruiting in the Southeast like he did at Florida and next year Nick Saban will be complaining.

Left Coast Dawg

February 8th, 2012
6:53 pm

Almost 1st….but Meyer is a fool. He won’t lure many from UGA to Ohio St.

Urban Who?

February 8th, 2012
6:54 pm

Couldnt care less. I’m as sick of him as Tebow. Buh-Bye.

Left Coast Dawg

February 8th, 2012
6:55 pm

Those Southern boys don’t like it too cold.

tyler

February 8th, 2012
7:10 pm

Buckeye- you are sadly misinformed. Meyer left the SEC because of Saban- he can’t hang with him anymore (and he certainly can’t recruit successfully against him).

intheknow

February 8th, 2012
7:15 pm

Meyer and Saban are both in love with themselves….both are pompous asses who consistantly lie to recruits and try to take advantage of loop holes in the system…When the shoes on the other foot watch for them to howl like babies.

GEORGIA FAN

February 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

All these crapps are NONSENSE, Do your coaching job well and forget all these pickerings. Urban Mayers thinks because he won national at UF, he will easily win in Ohio State as well. I would say Records speak for itself, Ohio hasnt done well against SEC opponent in years.

The OSU!

February 8th, 2012
7:24 pm

Urban’s cleaning up in recruiting, stealing top recruits all over the country and the whining big 10 coaches are not happy. Mark this down–with all the top talent urban is bringing in, the OSU will be in the BCS title game in 2 years!

Beast from the East

February 8th, 2012
7:34 pm

Like him or not, all Meyer does is win. He’s done it everywhere he’s been. Recruits know it and they will continue to flock to him. Those cry-babies in the Big “can’t count” 10 will find out quickly.

Delbert D.

February 8th, 2012
7:35 pm

The whole idea of commitments is absurd.

Beast from the East

February 8th, 2012
7:43 pm

Delbert,
Couldn’t agree more. They need an early signing period for kids that make up their minds and want to be done with the whole recruiting process. The others can do their “hat pick” on the “U” on NSD.

Worm

February 8th, 2012
7:44 pm

Urban Meyer is not a gentleman..Who knows, he might injure himself opening his sock drawer and RETIRE again..He’s the Ricky Williams of Coaching.

Worm

February 8th, 2012
7:47 pm

Urban Meyer and Nick Saban need a good A$$ whoppin’ and if they ever recruited my son and treated him the way they regularly treat “Commitments”-I’d spank their A$$!

The Bear

February 8th, 2012
7:52 pm

Maybe UGA can defend the house next year when they are playing in the Outback Bowl againest Ohio State and not have a meltdown again.
RTR

Beast from the East

February 8th, 2012
7:53 pm

Worm,
When has Urban ever treated a recruit badly? The only thing you could possibly say is that he has job-hopped, but that’s not something that over half the coaches around the country haven’t done.

The Bear

February 8th, 2012
7:56 pm

@Beast from the East he can’t it’s his opinion! No more no less.

MaryAnn

February 8th, 2012
7:59 pm

There an odor in the B1G and it’s emanating from Columbus via Florida.

The Bear

February 8th, 2012
8:08 pm

@MaryAnn sorry to ruin the parade but the truth in all college football is floating to the surface or sinking to the bottom depending on which end you are looking at.

JaxDawg

February 8th, 2012
8:15 pm

Urban Who?

February 8th, 2012
6:54 pm

Couldnt care less. I’m as sick of him as Tebow. Buh-Bye.
I couldent agree more!!

KINGDAWG

February 8th, 2012
8:19 pm

Meyer is a horse’s rear end. Heard this directly from Tavarres King’s HS coaches when he was being recruited. What a JERK!

georgiabuckmaster

February 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

Meyer left Florida in a hurry because he knew he was going to take a whipping.
He knew the time was right to leave because back to back weak season’s would look bad on him.
Don’t think it was all health. By the way, as a parent the way Saban drops recruits should send red flags up a pole. I think that kind of recruiting looks bad for the university and glad I’m not part of the Alabama system. Both Tech and Georgia have true class

Left Coast Dawg

February 8th, 2012
8:32 pm

@ THE OSU! Urban might be in a BCS Title game in 2 years thanks to the crooked-ness and bias of ESPN but that doesn’t mean they’ll win! I’m laying money down that the SEC will continue to place a BCS title game participant for at least the next 10 years!! OSU already stole one BCS title from Miami, they won’t be able to do that against the SEC.

Beast from the East

February 8th, 2012
8:34 pm

Meyer left UF because he was burned out. I wish he would have left the year before because you could tell his heart wasn’t in it like before. The man looked physically ill several times on the sideline in 2010. This Gator is grateful for the 2 NC’s in his short stay in Gainesville. I wish him the best at OSU, but I’d welcome the chance to see the Gators whip his Buckeyes’ butt again in the BCSCG. See how he’d like it from the other sideline. LOL!

Les W. Moore

February 8th, 2012
8:35 pm

Meyer ran away from the SEC because he was no longer the biggest Oscar. He’s now having his way with little Oscars of the B10. Funny.

slydog

February 8th, 2012
8:37 pm

@Buckeye239

Apparently you can’t read or didn’t read the article at all. Your coach just said he wasn’t even going to saturate Georgia, just cherry pick, which also means the rest of the South. Duh!!!!

The General Feeling

February 8th, 2012
8:39 pm

I’m glad he is the B10’s problem, now.

The Bear

February 8th, 2012
8:42 pm

Meyer left because he knew Nick Saban was in the SEC and his run of the SEC was over!

BigTimeTECHfan

February 8th, 2012
8:51 pm

What would Meyer know about commitment, wrong person to ask.

Kids have right to go visit any school they want before they sign LOI, Meyer is correct, but nobody forces that kid to commit. The Big 10 agreement helps the kids learn about commitment. I like the agreement and think SEC, ACC should adopt it, kid will know if he commits he will not get any other offers or contact so they will be less likely to commit when they are still open

Bubba Mutt

February 8th, 2012
9:00 pm

Buckeye239….uh, before you go telling us how Urban the Quitter is gonna come in down here and take all the best players, pray tell what happened with his last 2 recruiting classes at UF, I mean they haven’t produce much have they.

Saban owns this state

February 8th, 2012
9:08 pm

I love all you pompous high & mighty jackasses. If you were allowing your son to be recruited & didn’t listen to what Urban Meyer & Nick Saban have to say, then you’re an idiot. These guys are the best at what they do.

If Coca-Cola offered you a job, would you turn it down to go work for RC Cola?

These ppl who say they’d never let Saban/Meyer in their home are the same ppl who don’t actually have a son who would be recruited at that level anyway, so you’re irrelevant AND stupid.

IL Jacket

February 8th, 2012
9:31 pm

Congratulations to Bret Bielema on calling out Urban Meyer. Maybe if someone in the SEC had such intestinal fortitude, Little Nicky wouldn’t be engaging in his hallmark “the kids be dam_ d approach.”

BTTF, I agree. The rule should be a conference coach will not contact you if you commit to a
conference school. If the recruit contacts the school and wants to reopen the recruiting process, that should be fine, but it has to be instituted by the recruit.

Carville, you should be ashamed quoting Kiffen on anything even closely related to ethical issues.

collegeballfan

February 8th, 2012
9:36 pm

Meyer may be all the names you folks call him but he has two national titles. How many other coaches have two national titles? How many have none? The vast majority.

Buckeye

February 8th, 2012
9:47 pm

Look at Richt and Saban, Big 10 would really complain !!!!

foothills

February 8th, 2012
9:55 pm

OMG! Withers? Really? Wonder if “Black Santa” left him some extra bags of cash to use @ OSU. They haven’t “done things right” in a while in Columbus so SUB-urban will fit right in. Gee Carvell talking to Lame ’bout ethics? Did you have to clue him on the meaning?

What an EGO Freak!

February 8th, 2012
10:28 pm

UM is no gentleman!

I'll take my coffe black, techie.

February 8th, 2012
10:32 pm

These forums have really given me and intense hatred for Alabama. I really used to like Bama, but after reading all of the flames thrown by their fans I say Damma Bama.

THWGT

5150 UOAD

February 8th, 2012
10:43 pm

I’ll take my coffe black, techie that is funny. These forums have made you like and respect UGA fans more to I bet.

pj

February 8th, 2012
10:57 pm

I can’t stand Urban and am a dawg till I die – but he’s totally in the right here. “Gentleman’s agreement”? That’s absurd. If I were him I would laugh at the whining coaches. Their mad because he just made their jobs more difficult.

dawgfan

February 8th, 2012
11:00 pm

Big 10 coaches are a bunch of women. just can’t handle SEC..on the field and off

dawgfan

February 8th, 2012
11:01 pm

by off the field i mean recruiting..not arrests ha

Bama Fan#2

February 8th, 2012
11:09 pm

Urban Meyer is one hell of a coach. I was mad as hell
when he got Tebow to commit over the crimson tide back
in 05. Meyer will have the buckeyes in the Rose Bowl
in 2013!!!! RTR

Rick James

February 8th, 2012
11:11 pm

Nothing wrong with the way Urban recruits but good luck getting kids from the south to come to Ohio State and play on ice..

pj

February 8th, 2012
11:55 pm

Who does he have to REALLY recruit against? Penn State? Nope. Michigan can’t keep a coach. Michigan State is the Arkansas of the Big 10. Wisconson is the uga of the big 10. Purdue? Illinois? Urban @ Ohio State = chamionships for years.

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Kool like that

February 9th, 2012
1:22 am

Urban is up there showing how things are done in the dirty South. Big 10 coaches will be on their toes now. One thing is for sure, Urban is not going to tone down his act for no one. He knew those coaches are suckers for the most part and could come in there and make a big splash right away. Because that conference prides itself on academics, he’ll get the marginal student/great athlete to go to Columbus and clean everyone’s clock til the others drop their admission standards so they can join in on the fun. Might just see OSU actually beat someone from the SEC in a few years in a NC.

5150 UOAD

February 9th, 2012
1:33 am

It is College and DROPPING standards for Stupident Athletes is WRONG.

Crimson Crush

February 9th, 2012
3:49 am

Big LOLs when every thread inevitably has some schmuck crying about Bama fans … of course there were no complaints when the AJC blogs were just one big mostly unchallenged circle jerk of UGA fans slamming the Tide in every comment section . ;-)

Crimson Crush

February 9th, 2012
4:10 am

ILL jacket essentially reposted the same drivel about “intestinal fortitude” that he posted on another thread . I see no reason to type a different reply so Ill drag most of my responses to him from there to here :
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ILL Jacket obviously missed two days after Biliemia’s whinefest where the Wisconsin AD ( and former Bagder head coach ) said there WAS no such thing as “stealing” recruits and 2 days after that forced Beliemia to issue a public statement that admitted Meyer did NOT actually “cheat” like Beliemia so shrilly claimed ….

Perhaps what the rest of you losers need at your programs are more athletic directors with the balls and the backbone of a Barry Alvarez and a few less squishy whiners like Bret Beliemia …

… read what a man actually had to say about Meyer’s recruiting … then go eat some tofu and splash on some more petiole oil . You reek loudly from the stench of effete desperation and pea green envy .

Barry Alvarez sides with Urban Meyer in the burgeoning Big Ten recruiting wars

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/kyle-dodson-ohio-state-announcement-may-provoked-bret-181630929.html

Crimson Crush

February 9th, 2012
4:29 am

correction and edit :

A member of Occupy College Football has informed me that the correct term for the smell surrounding ILL Jacket actually comes “patchouli” oil …. and the stench of effete desperation mixed with pea green envy :-)

Stinger2

February 9th, 2012
4:50 am

From all I read and hear, most fans believe recruiting has become a cut thoat business by some (not all) college coaches. I agree with the earlier post saying that th situation could be helped by having an early signing period for the recruits who are absolutely sure and
no letters of intent. If the early signee cannot enroll because of grades or other circumstances beyond his control, he would be releaed with no penalty. If he simply changes his mind after signing, he would have to wait a year before being eligible for a Div 1 signing or he could immediately enroll in a junior college and still have full eligibility in a major school.