Dalvin Tomlinson’s connection to Alabama ‘grayshirt scandal’ (UPDATED)

Dalvin Tomlinson, who picked Alabama over Georgia Tech and UGA on signing day, was not connected to the Crimson Tide’s “grayshirting” scandal, according to his coach.

Two longtime Alabama commitments (both recovering from knee injuries) were told only weeks before signing day by Nick Saban that they couldn’t sign with the Crimson Tide this year. Both were given the option to “grayshirt” or delay enrolling at Alabama in 2013.

If you commit to Nick Saban, it’s safe unless you get injured or Alabama has the opportunity to upgrade at your position before you officially sign the paperwork (AP)

What we learned: If you commit to Nick Saban, it’s safe unless you get injured or Alabama has the opportunity to upgrade at your position before you officially sign the paperwork (AP)

Justin Taylor, a running back from North Atlanta High School, was apparently no longer needed after Alabama upgraded at the position when 5-star RB TJ Yeldon flipped from Auburn to the Crimson Tide. Taylor, who missed most of his senior season with a knee injury, ended up signing with Kentucky and had some strong comments for Saban: “[As] far as pulling the scholarship, I think they did me wrong. I was the No. 7 to commit, that’s all I’ve got to say. I was committed to them for a year. They could’ve handled it better.” (Click on story link)

Meanwhile, Darius Philon is the “story that won’t go away,” according to a Sunday column by al.com’s Mike Herndon. Philon, a defensive lineman from Prichard, Ala., injured his knee toward the end of his senior season. On signing day, Philon put on an Alabama baseball cap at an emotional ceremony [see video below] but ended up signing hours later with Arkansas – a school he never visited. Philon’s coach told al.com “He had the world snatched up from under him.” Philon was apparently no longer needed after Alabama upgraded at the position with defensive linemen Dalvin Tomlinson and Korren Kirven.

We addressed the Tomlinson-for-Philon rumors with Henry County coach Mike Rozier over the weekend.

  • How did Dalvin end up going to Alabama? Did it have anything to do with Alabama offering a “grayshirt” to another player? “From day one, Dalvin was going to Alabama. He kept delaying and everything, and it got kind of close with the scholarship numbers. But Nick wanted Dalvin from day one. He was Nick’s boy. Coach Saban fell in love with him a long time ago. Alabama never waived on that kid. There was no ‘grayshirt’ mention with Dalvin whatsoever by Alabama. All that other stuff is rumor and speculation … Dalvin always had a scholarship at Alabama. That thing that happened over at North Atlanta [Justin Taylor], that wasn’t the same thing here. Dalvin always had a a scholarship to Alabama.”
  • What about Alabama’s scholarship numbers? “I kept hearing everybody say that Alabama was getting close to being full and telling me ‘You need to do something, if that is where Dalvin wants to go.’ Alabama was Dalvin’s No. 1 choice but he didn’t want to rush things. I know Alabama was close to being full. Dalvin actually committed to Coach Saban when he made an in-home visit on MLK Day [on Jan. 16] but he wanted to keep it a secret until signing day.”
  • For an elite prospect, Dalvin never seemed to the flashy type or want the media attention. Why do you think Dalvin kept it a secret for three more weeks? “I asked him that. He just wanted to make sure on his part. On Alabama’s part of the deal, there was never any hesitation. They always wanted him. When it got close with the numbers at Alabama and he needed to do something, Dalvin committed. But he wanted to keep it a secret and that I can’t answer. I don’t know why.”
    AJC Super 11 DE Dalvin Tomlinson was "Nick's boy" all along, claims his coach (AJC)

    AJC Super 11 DE Dalvin Tomlinson was "Nick's boy" all along, claims his coach (AJC)

  • Who else knew Dalvin had committed to Alabama weeks ago? “I’m the only one he told at first. He finally fessed up to [Georgia Tech assistant Joe Speed] a few days before signing day about where he was going. Coach Speed honored his wishes by keeping it a secret. Now I can’t answer why Dalvin wanted to wait until signing day. He couldn’t give me an answer on that. But our timing had nothing to do with [Philon] because Dalvin always had an Alabama offer. Alabama was the most truthful school in the recruiting process. They were the most honest. They didn’t pester him and they didn’t bug him. That was one big thing that Dalvin liked about Alabama – that they didn’t downgrade other programs. Coach Saban spoke very highly of other programs, especially Georgia and Georgia Tech. And Dalvin, with the type of character he has, he appreciated that. Alabama didn’t play any games with him.”
  • Are you talking about Georgia Tech and UGA? “It was more Georgia Tech than Georgia. Dalvin wasn’t upfront with Coach Speed until right before the dead period. Coach Speed just thought the numbers didn’t look good at Alabama and that they were holding a spot for him at Georgia Tech.
  • What about UGA? “I think when Dalvin didn’t go on his official visit there, they got the hint. Dalvin did have a family problem [which made him cancel], but the signs were there when he didn’t go to UGA on the official visit or make plans to reschedule it. I guess they got the idea then. He wasn’t upfront with them … Dalvin really liked [UGA RB coach Bryan McClendon]. He said if McClendon was the defensive line coach, he might’ve considered going to Georgia. He thought very highly of Coach McClendon and developed a relationship with him. But he’s the running backs coach. When I say that, Alabama was his No. 1 school all along. I don’t know why he waited it out but he was never going to Georgia or Georgia Tech.”

Other items on “the story that won’t go away”

Justin Taylor on Bama: "... they did me wrong. I was the No. 7 to commit, that’s all I’ve got to say. I was committed to them for a year. They could’ve handled it better.”  (AJC)

Justin Taylor on Bama: "... they did me wrong. I was the No. 7 to commit, that’s all I’ve got to say. I was committed to them for a year. They could’ve handled it better.” (AJC)

  • The moral of this story: If you commit to Alabama, it’s safe unless you get injured or Alabama has the opportunity to upgrade at your position before you officially sign the paperwork.
  • Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham News: “Call me cynical, but there’s no question that Philon and Taylor were more committed to Alabama than Alabama was to them when better players lined up to take their place. And yet, despite stories like Philon’s and Taylor’s, an awful lot of prospects can’t wait to play for Alabama … What does it all mean? When Saban’s process is good, it’s very good. When it goes bad, Alabama goes on, and some young men go away.”
  • Al.com’s Mike Herndon: “All verbal commitments are non-binding, even from coaches who claim to be “old-fashioned” and believe “a commitment is a commitment.” On Wednesday, Saban praised the players who had stuck by their commitments to Alabama in this year’s class, calling it “a positive thing for us in terms of managing our recruiting this year.” What his actions have told future recruits, however, is that if you get hurt, that commitment isn’t necessarily a two-way street.”
  • One thing that might’ve been overlooked by many from the Justin Taylor story was the conversation between North Atlanta coach Stanley Prichett and Chris Rumph, the Alabama assistant in charge of botching Taylor’s situation. When they talked on signing day, Rumph apparently was putting pressure on Justin to make a decision for Feb. 2013 — which is a year away. Said Prichett: “[Rumph] asked what Justin was going to do because they wanted to go after some other people.”
  • Apparently, no one asked Saban about Justin Taylor or Darius Philon at Alabama’s signing day press conference. However, Saban may have alluded to both when he said this: “I think basically what we did was, because of the cynical attitude people have towards whether coaches are really doing what’s in the best interest of the young people that we coach, which I sort of resent, to be honest with you, because that’s one of the things that we pride ourselves in, we actually took some opportunities away from guys that really wanted to come to Alabama that we couldn’t sign, and they couldn’t come here because we couldn’t offer that [sign and grayshirt] option to them.” Note: The AJC requested an interview with Saban last week to give his version of events with Taylor or his recruiting tactics in general. We’re awaiting his response.

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1,172 comments Add your comment

NiquePhotog

February 5th, 2012
3:16 pm

NiquePhotog

February 5th, 2012
3:18 pm

I call shenanigans on this whole matter.

If Dalvin knew, why would he wait until signing day except for all of the extra attention? He seems like a good kid and all but it makes you wonder…

Mey

February 5th, 2012
3:21 pm

Dawg Mom

February 5th, 2012
3:22 pm

Nick Saban is the devil. Thank you God for giving us a fine Christian man with honesty and integrity like coach Mark Richt. He may not win as many games as Coach Saban, but he wins with honesty and integrity that makes me proud to be a Dawg fan. I can sleep at night knowing he represents our university.

JD

February 5th, 2012
3:23 pm

ok not first and why did Dalvin play the games with Tech?

JD

February 5th, 2012
3:26 pm

So Philon got scr*wed, surprise, surprise. Didn’t see anything where Tech played games with Dalvin. Happy with Kallon, Gamble and the Aussie. Dalvin better not get hurt at Alabama or he’ll have to rely on paying for his degree.

Dap01

February 5th, 2012
3:26 pm

Alabama has no character. Saban has no integirty.

Savannah Dawg

February 5th, 2012
3:28 pm

Mark Richt is a Christian man and would never do this to kids. It’s shameful.

gogetm78

February 5th, 2012
3:29 pm

Sad thing is Saban could care less. As a parent how could you send your child to play under a coach like this it baffles me. Winning is great in the long run its better to have some class. Saban is toying around with these 17 18 year old kids it a shame.

NiquePhotog

February 5th, 2012
3:30 pm

Yeah, I don’t think the question should have been “Did Georgia Tech and UGA play games with Dalvin?”….should have been the other way around.

And starting to grab the GT hat at first – plain a$$ery. Although everyone knew he was going to Bama after he said he’d be going to a college with a not-so-good business school

Reporter

February 5th, 2012
3:30 pm

The Alabama media didn’t ask Saban about Taylor & Philon because they’re scared of Nick.

George P

February 5th, 2012
3:31 pm

Injury or not, you’ve made a commitment. You owe the kid the scholarship. When you make an offer before his senior season you are taking a chance that he’ll get hurt. That’s the risk. Accept it. Otherwise wait until after that season to make your offers.

This, the pressure to drop injured kids or ones who do no pan out due to scholarship limits, is the main reason Bobby Dodd took Tech out of the SEC. The NCAA put in limits shortly thereafter, so it had little effect, but he wanted to continue to provide the scholarships he’d promised, even if the kids never played.

bamanatl

February 5th, 2012
3:32 pm

This just shows you how much he really cares about the kids. Its all about him. This guy is a coward. Snatches schollys from kids and then has his assistant coaches do the dirty work.

dowhat

February 5th, 2012
3:33 pm

The way alabama was dropping recruits and waiting on other recruits, I don’t for second believe Dalvin knew he had a legit offer from them unil the end. The article seems confusing when asked which school ugay or Tech played games with Dalvin? Seem like he was the one playing games. “Dalvin wasn’t upfront with coach Speed.” Another kid that fell for Saban’s lies. He better not get hurt or he will be on the street.

lars taint supporter

February 5th, 2012
3:34 pm

Was there ever a retraction on someones column in regards to UGA’s top 10 recruiting class streak ending?

reep98

February 5th, 2012
3:35 pm

If u commit to BAMA it means nothing. When will u people learn that. Integrity means nothing.

Philon’s coach told al.com “He had the world snatched up from under him.” Philon was apparently no longer needed after Alabama upgraded at the position with defensive linemen Dalvin Tomlinson and Korren Kirven.

German Shepherd Dawg

February 5th, 2012
3:35 pm

Let’s dissect this article further, shall we?

First we have Dalvin, “with the type of character he has.”

What type of character might that be? His coach said, “he was never going to Georgia or Georgia Tech.” So what decision was left to be made?

Because he “waited” to the last second, apparently Saban left this poor kid Philon twist in the wind. Even the Alabama sports writers can’t sugar coat this despicable treatment of a teenager who was humiliated in public by having his offer downgraded at the last second, thanks to the “character-driven” Dalvin. This whole story turns my stomach. I remember Brent Benedict, who blew out his knee, got a free year in school to rehab it, then left for Virginia Tech to get a second free year of rehab. Richt honored the commitment. Saban doesn’t know the meaning of the word.

Jgezzy

February 5th, 2012
3:37 pm

Interesting that Sabah spoke highly of UGA & GT, never thought about that…

Atlanta insight sports blog – http://atlinsight.com

hipdawg

February 5th, 2012
3:38 pm

Folks. Alabama has always been the dirtiest program for years.The whole state keeps the cover-ups from the media,Dirty Dirty Dirty.Winning at all cost is the mantra.Rules arrest, always kept hush hush.

Wonder Dawg

February 5th, 2012
3:38 pm

1984uga

February 5th, 2012
3:39 pm

When you are Nick Saban with several national championships, you can pick/choose who & when you want recruits to come to Alabama. I believe that if CMR were placed in this position, he would honor his word & not treat people this way.

I’ve said before… if I had a kid that wanted to play football, I would hope that he would choose UGA & CMR over other SEC schools. There is more to an individual’s well being than just football.

I wish the AJC would report more of this type of behavior from SEC coaches.

magnola dawg

February 5th, 2012
3:40 pm

Nicks Boy lol we will see………………….. he has the right temperment already

Jacket Man

February 5th, 2012
3:40 pm

The question was who jerked who around and the answer was that Tomlonson jerked Tech around not the other way around, and then piled it the Jacket fans on by pulling the stunt with the hats. If he knew all along he was planning on going to Alabama, then why did he string GA Tech along the entire time, holding up a scholarship they could have/would have offered to another deserving player before it was too late? This spits in the face of someone who has espoused honor and integrity.

Joe

February 5th, 2012
3:40 pm

Dang, all these high school coaches are punk suckers. You are all being pimped, you fools.

205

February 5th, 2012
3:41 pm

Supply and Demand. Why do you think underachiever Georgia/Richt only signed 18 and other top 10 schools maxed out? What do think happens when 20,000 kids apply to Harvard and only 5,300 get signed into Cambridge. This story might have credibility if it wasn’t posted by a Georgia grad with an axe to grind. Haters will always hate on successful programs.

gross

February 5th, 2012
3:42 pm

at least chizik and richt keep their word Saban stay out of atlanta.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
3:43 pm

As always the AJC would like to bring BAMA down, but it will not work.

SABANS 2013 CLASS is already 7 deep, so a word to the recruits is you had better jump on board while you can.

SABAN does not wait to offer a 2/3 STAR such as WILL ADAMS towards signing day. He has more than enough players waiting to come to BAMA.

Here are some of the schools that offered WILL ADANS:

SOU MISS
SOUTH ALA
BUFFALO
MEMPHIS
MARSHALL
LOUISVILLE
KENTUCKY
ILLINOIS

This kid was not in SABANS plans and he never offered this kid, yet UGA was trying desperately along with AUBARN to sign him after PLAN A blew up in their faces of not signing enough OL.

AUBARN and GEORGIA would like to have the record that BAMA has. BAMA just did not get to be ELITE when SABAN came on board. BAMA has been one of the top 5 jobs in COLLEGE FOOTBALL for a long time.

It is as good as it gets at BAMA and kids want to play for a CHAMPIONSHIP. These kids want to play for NICK SABAN and it will continue.

SABAN has his sights on BRICE RAMSEY. GEORGIA will have a fight on their hands. More times than not………………………………….SABAN gets what he wants.

ROLL TIDE ROLL……………………………….Have a good day AJC !!!!

WDE '94

February 5th, 2012
3:44 pm

HEY REUBEN FOSTER, YOU BETTER DE-COMMIT FROM ALABAMA BECAUSE IF YOU GET HURT, YOUR SCHOLLIE WILL BE YANKED.

dawgenuff

February 5th, 2012
3:45 pm

I can’t believe he actually picked Alabama over Georgia and UGA!! If we had two shots ,how come we didn’t win?

james

February 5th, 2012
3:46 pm

I hope none of these boys get hurt or just aren’t as
good as hype by these recruiting services or
Nicky will kick their butts to the curb…. Just a fact
of life over in T-Town…. Its a year to year deal at
Bama and maybe the other schools if they want to
win anything should consider doing more of it….
College Football is a business with some of the kids
actually getting a degree but not all……

HighTech

February 5th, 2012
3:47 pm

•The moral of this story: If you commit to Alabama, it’s safe unless you get injured or Alabama has the opportunity to upgrade at your position before you officially sign the paperwork.
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Sad but true.

Evan in Norcross

February 5th, 2012
3:49 pm

Caravel shouldn’t you be investigating why 3 UGA players were dismissed from football team? Crickets chirping. We know that isn’t gonna happen. Georgia alum with no conscience.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
3:50 pm

I have my 2009 and 2011 Commerative edition magazines from SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, Actually for 2011…………………They have 2 magazines.

I guess you can go to the local PILOT TUCK STOPS and get you 2011 SEC EAST CHAMPIONSHIP MAGAZINES from FIELD and STREAM.

Gerald

February 5th, 2012
3:52 pm

Look, I don’t have a problem with what Saban did. I am a fan of Georgia Tech, where winning a BCS bowl game is an accomplishment akin to winning a national title, so if Saban is playing the game better than most, that is a problem for UGA, Tennessee, Florida, Auburn and LSU, not me. Here is the deal: if you are a 3 star recruit, enroll early. Don’t be a prima donna who wants the rock star treatment of taking all these visits and making the dramatic signing day announcement at your high school. Don’t indulge in the nonsense of going to the prom (aren’t there junior proms anyway?) and playing baseball (unless you are a serious bet for the minor league draft) and track your last year. Take your academic and athletic future seriously and enroll early. If you haven’t qualified in time enough to enroll early, then you have bigger problems than not being able to go to your first choice of schools. But if you are a qualified 3 star recruit and you don’t enroll early, then I am sorry: you are being willfully naive about the recruiting game. If a program is SERIOUS about you, they will WANT you to enroll early so you can get that extra semester of spring football and weight training in, plus you can get an early start on studying, as the NCAA has now started punishing programs who don’t graduate their players. Folks who say “there should be an early signing period in college football” … it already exists. It is in January when kids – and parents – who take their futures more seriously than being the star of the prom one last time are enrolling for spring classes.

Now get this: if a school DOESN’T want you to enroll early, they tell you to wait until signing day to commit then come in for the fall, THEN IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE HOLDING YOUR SPOT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. If that “somebody else” comes like Yeldon and Tomlinson did, then you’re looking at a greyshirt AT BEST. Had Taylor and Philon attempted to early enroll, they would either be at Alabama right now, or they would have been able to take visits and do better for themselves than Kentucky and Arkansas. Taylor probably could be at South Carolina right now, Philon would almost certainly be at Auburn. I feel for Taylor and Philon, but let this be a lesson to all 3 star recruits that are trying to go to these football factories that don’t value 3 star recruits the way that my school does (because my school rarely signs 4 star recruits): enroll early, or don’t complain when things don’t work out. Or target a “lesser school” that doesn’t bring in top 10 recruiting classes year after year.

saban

February 5th, 2012
3:54 pm

How games did Saban win in the NFL??

Gerald

February 5th, 2012
3:59 pm

Now as to you Alabama fans: quit claiming that it was because these kids were injured, ok? Who needs TWO YEARS to recover from an injury? Taylor’s knee injury wasn’t even that severe. Severe knee injuries that take over a year to heal are where you tear all three ligaments: ACL, MCL and PCL. Taylor only tore his ACL and his meniscus. The guy will get plenty of carries for Kentucky this fall. Philon: same story. He only tore his meniscus FOUR MONTHS AGO. Had he not played on the injury (3 weeks into the Alabama H.S. playoffs, just the type of player that Bear Bryant would have LOVED!) the kid would be mere weeks away from being 100%. As it is, he will be 100% by summer, and will also get snaps at Arkansas this fall.

It is funny. Mark Ingram injured his knee in late summer, had arthoscopic surgery on it on August 31, and rushed for 151 yards by September 18th, and had 24 carries on September 25th against Arkansas. But Justin Taylor and Darius Philon hurt their knees, and they need TWO YEARS of rehab. TWO YEARS. When you are at Alabama and get knee surgery on August 31st, you play on September 18th. But if you are a 3 star recruit and Saban wants your scholarship for a 5 star player, hurting your knee in October 2011 means sitting on the shelf until September 2013.

Yeah right, Tide fans. Just acknowledge that Saban gave their spots to better recruits, and that if these kids wanted to come to ‘Bama, they should have early enrolled. Or at least tried to and found out where they really stood with ‘Bama a lot earlier. Stanley Pritchett: you know what a shark tank the SEC is. Had you had the kid for whom you were the guardian tell Alabama back in November: “hey, we are going to enroll in January”, you would have found out BACK THEN that you were #27 instead of #7 in that class. That is the truth. NOT nonsense about it taking TWO YEARS to get over an ACL and meniscus tear, ‘Bama fans.

HighTech

February 5th, 2012
4:02 pm

Dalvin said he decided a week before signing day, but he committed to Alabama on Jan. 16, according to the article.

http://www.high5sports.com/dpp/sports/hs_football/Dalvin-Tomlinson-Alabama-20120201

•Did Georgia Tech and UGA play games with Dalvin? “It was more Georgia Tech than Georgia. Dalvin wasn’t upfront with Coach Speed until right before the dead period. Coach Speed just thought the numbers didn’t look good at Alabama and that they were holding a spot for him at Georgia Tech.

And that doesn’t even make sense.

Paddy

February 5th, 2012
4:07 pm

Georgia High School Coaches……….Just say NO to Saban! This is very disturbing!

bigtime

February 5th, 2012
4:08 pm

Delete my post…nice, like a cat covering up $%#T.

,a href=http://arkansas.247sec.com/2012/02/03/the-curious-journey-of-signee-darius-philon/>The curious journey of signee Darius Philon

ADMan

February 5th, 2012
4:09 pm

All you Bama fans can call it what you want but Saban is a liar and a user, pure and simple. If you choose to ignore the facts that just shows what an idiot you are. As long as Saban gets what he wants,he could care less about the athletes he manipulates to serve his purpose….SAD…you Bama tralier trash can’t see the forest for the tree’s….if it was your son I’ll bet you’d be howling at the top of your lungs at how your son got shafted and lied to…..Saban is Liar…pure and simple!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:09 pm

Who is misleading who ? PHILON has not even had knee surgery yet ? He was injured in November.

What is going on with that ?

AUABARN and MISS STATE offered this kid. AUBARN did not come back to him after BAMA wanted to grayshirt him. MS STATE did not either.

AUBARN, and MISS STATE KNEW SOMETHING APPARENTLY. This is about the 20-25 rated DEFENSIVE LINEMAN in the country.

PHILON was not up front.

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:12 pm

Nick Saban is the devil. Thank you God for giving us a fine Christian man with honesty and integrity like coach Mark Richt. He may not win as many games as Coach Saban, but he wins with honesty and integrity that makes me proud to be a Dawg fan. I can sleep at night knowing he represents our university.
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Once again another hit piece by the AJC…..pulling out all the stops….got news for ya, you sniffling, whiny, butthurt jawja supporters…you can try and turn all of this into a “Saban is Satan” , and “Saban doesn’t care about the kids(whimper…cry…moan…sobbing)”…as you continue to cry…he continues to put these kids in the best possible position to succeed….and oh how convenient that Richt decides that 3 kids need to be kicked off from the team…where’s the outrage?….when a team is dominating like Bama is right now, there are always going to be losers trying to rationalize why the other team is so good and why their team sux…Hey Jawja!! 2 BCS championships in 3 years and more to come…rationalize away!!! What a loser fan base…ur becoming more and more like awburn everyday!!! LOL RTR!!!

asw

February 5th, 2012
4:13 pm

Why keep interviewing this kid’s High School Coach? He resigned from the position already!

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:14 pm

All you Bama fans can call it what you want but Saban is a liar and a user, pure and simple. If you choose to ignore the facts that just shows what an idiot you are. As long as Saban gets what he wants,he could care less about the athletes he manipulates to serve his purpose….SAD…you Bama tralier trash can’t see the forest for the tree’s….if it was your son I’ll bet you’d be howling at the top of your lungs at how your son got shafted and lied to…..Saban is Liar…pure and simple!
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Case in point…..sniff sniff…lol

gt4ever

February 5th, 2012
4:14 pm

This whole recruiting system is absurd. Why any athlete would want to go to UA is beyond me…. Dirtiest program in the country! But hey, they always have been dirty. That is precisely why GT is no longer in the SEC… The SEC conference, a conference of hypocrites!

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
4:14 pm

Have some of the posts on this topic been deleted? I am pretty sure I read a post by an Alabama fan named “chris” who attacked the AJC for a sloppy headline. Now it is gone.
Although I am a critic of Saban in the Taylor case, the headline to this blog does not reflect the content – Tomlinson is not even quoted in the post.
If the AJC writers are going to delete posts for any reason other than profanity, racism or attacking high school players then there is no point in treating the AJC blogs as a public forum.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:16 pm

“It’s not a big secret that the knee is worse than just a minor deal,” said one person in the Mobile area involved in the sports scene. “He also hasn’t had any success with any rehab.”

On the surface, Saban was playing it safe with the new league-wide restrictions on signing players. What is surprising to a lot of observers around the league and in the state of Alabama is why Auburn didn’t jump in to pick up Philon, who originally committed to the Tigers.

“They still had two scholarships left when the word about Philon came out, they are trying to sign every defensive lineman they can find and they don’t make an offer to someone who committed to them first?” said one former Auburn player still close to the program. “Loyalty doesn’t come in at that point, regardless of what you think about Alabama or Auburn. The Tigers need defensive linemen. They knew the knee wasn’t going to be ready to go and there are questions that he can get into school.

Tech Fan Since 1950

February 5th, 2012
4:17 pm

Coach Rozier, from my perspective of not knowing all the facts but only what you have stated on this blog before signing day and now today, I think you should be ashamed of the way you and Dalvin handled this situation. The games played were frankly by you and Dalvin. I know you are in a tough spot, but boy you could have saved a lot of folks a whole lot of trouble by just being frank from the very beginning and not helping to turn this whole thing into the three ring circus that it became. Best wishes to Dalvin, but boy I hope everyone learned from this episode.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:19 pm

WHINE, WHINE, WHINE………………………………….You guys are a bunch a whining WHIMPS.

Get you a team that can compete.

GOT TISSUE ?

Remarkable

February 5th, 2012
4:19 pm

If you commit to Alabama, it’s safe unless you get injured or Alabama has the opportunity to upgrade at your position before you officially sign the paperwork.
Al.com’s Mike Herndon: On Wednesday, Saban praised the players who had stuck by their commitments to Alabama in this year’s class. What his actions have told future recruits, however, is that if you get hurt, that commitment isn’t necessarily a two-way street.”

Let the buyer be ware! Alabama will sell you a bill of goods if they can.

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:19 pm

This whole recruiting system is absurd. Why any athlete would want to go to UA is beyond me…. Dirtiest program in the country! But hey, they always have been dirty. That is precisely why GT is no longer in the SEC… The SEC conference, a conference of hypocrites!

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GT left because they were getting their you know whats handed to them year in and year out by the Bear…nothing more and nothing less….dirty? question which school was last handed any type of sanctions by the NCAA…bama or GT?..chew on that!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:21 pm

KID may not qualify anyways from what I am hearing. JUCO route will be where he is going then you PUPPIES can sign him.

ga gator

February 5th, 2012
4:22 pm

I hate to start an argument on here, but if Aub, UGA, GT or UF for that matter had a coach who won like Saban, all of the diehards would look the other way when it come to recruiting. Too many hypocritacal fake do-gooders commenting about this whole issue.

Your old Augusta sports editor

February 5th, 2012
4:22 pm

Michael: I’m getting real disappointed with you with this business with Alabama. You are truly beginning to be a hit man instead of a journalist. You are becoming like the other AJC writers, cynical and generally non-professional. Son, you are better than this. Get with it and get your professionalism back.You are ignoring facts and reading things that are not there.

We Run the East

February 5th, 2012
4:22 pm

That was not an “emotional” signing ceremony, that was a pathetic show for attention. The adults should bed really embarassed. What a joke. Got what he deserved. Maybe should have checked with alabama before putting on such a stupid show.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:23 pm

WhineyUGAfans…………………………At least your name is correct…………………….You UGA fans always whine all the time.

What is about you UGA FANS ?

dawgster

February 5th, 2012
4:23 pm

Well what do you really think the kid is going to say now guys…He is at bama and surely not going to say something to hurt Saban’s feelings…Bottomline is he strung Tech along and should have been upfront with them if he knew he was going to bama…I understand these kids are young, but I’m sick and tired of hearing all kind of excuses from them with all the games…Lets be truthful, as the young man said, he was bama bound, and thats fine but he even his coach wondered why he waited till NSD….Something about this doesn’t pass the smell test, but really, not for me to say….Hope it works out for him at bama….go dawgs….

steverino

February 5th, 2012
4:25 pm

Although Tomlinson never committed to GT, (and never WAS apparently), this situation shows why Paul Johnsons “if you’re still looking, we’re still looking” philosophy makes sense. As good a kid as Tomlinson is, (and he is), this was an inconsiderate, immature move on his part. Saban uses the immaturity of these high schoolers to his utmost advantage.

ga gator

February 5th, 2012
4:25 pm

gt4ever that is crap! GT left the SEC because they thought they could make it without sharing the bowl revenue. It is sickening to hear GT fans talk about their academic standards compared to SEC schools. You have too many players to talk like Jonathan Nesbitt to convince us that Tech players are any smarter than any other school. Perhaps your general student body has higher test scores but not your athletes. GET REAL DUDE!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:26 pm

Knee injury is worse than the kid has let on to be. This kid flipped from AUBARN to BAMA and yet AUBARN passed.

BAMA and SABAN do not feel bad when the recruit is not honest. As bad as MS STATE needs players and they held off also.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:27 pm

Dap01 …………………………….But yet we win CHAMPIONSHIPS……………………..GOT THAT ?

1980 was so 32 years ago

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:28 pm

I hate to start an argument on here, but if Aub, UGA, GT or UF for that matter had a coach who won like Saban, all of the diehards would look the other way when it come to recruiting. Too many hypocritacal fake do-gooders commenting about this whole issue
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^^^THIS^^^^…………when Urban was kicking tail…I didn’t like it at all but I accepted that he was working hard on the recruiting trail and respected his focus…..never seen a “journalistic” outfit go schizo like the AJC is doing now…My gut feeling is they are trying to make a splash so the recruits in the next few years will somehow be convinced not to “trust” Saban and Bama….oh well, it’s not going to work….EPIC FAIL..sort of like UGAs football program…kids are seeing that UGA just doesn’t have the championship mentality…they’ve had a chance and they failed the state miserably….that time has come and gone…order has been restored;)

P. Bull Terrier

February 5th, 2012
4:29 pm

Nick’s Boy altered the course of a lot of other people’s dreams by playing games with the recruiting process. No doubt, one of the two Alabama committs who lost their scholarship at the last minute was a direct result of Nick’s Boy’s actions. There are probably a couple more players who might have had the chance to play at Tech or UGA if those two schools weren’t keeping a scholarship open to honor their word to Nick’s Boy.

Alabama fans are undoubtedly proud of Nick’s Boy for his ability to inflict damage on other people during the recruiting process. It fits into the win at any cost, no matter who you have to hurt in the process mentality that Bama fans love so much. The problem is, what goes around comes around. There will be a day when Nick’s Boy and Nick’s Fans are left wondering how everything suddenly went so wrong and they won’t find any sympathy from the rest of the world.

By the way, If I had CAPITALIZED every few WORDS of my POST, would it have MADE what I have to SAY any more INTERESTING? Just WONDERING.

Jerry Jones

February 5th, 2012
4:32 pm

P. Bull what will they think when I hire Saban to bring the glory back to Irving Texas?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:32 pm

P. Bull Terrier …………………………………Another WHINING Georgia fan.

Got TISSUE ?

7576DAWG

February 5th, 2012
4:32 pm

Bottom line for most of the recruit’s is: ” If it doesn’t affect me, I don’t care “, that someone else get’s screwed over.

ga gator

February 5th, 2012
4:33 pm

Enter your comments here

ga gator

February 5th, 2012
4:34 pm

The whole system is corrupt. Kids do the same thing by continuing to take visits after they commit, then flip to another school. Welcome to life in the big world.

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:37 pm

Nick’s Boy altered the course of a lot of other people’s dreams by playing games with the recruiting process. No doubt, one of the two Alabama committs who lost their scholarship at the last minute was a direct result of Nick’s Boy’s actions. There are probably a couple more players who might have had the chance to play at Tech or UGA if those two schools weren’t keeping a scholarship open to honor their word to Nick’s Boy.

Alabama fans are undoubtedly proud of Nick’s Boy for his ability to inflict damage on other people during the recruiting process. It fits into the win at any cost, no matter who you have to hurt in the process mentality that Bama fans love so much. The problem is, what goes around comes around. There will be a day when Nick’s Boy and Nick’s Fans are left wondering how everything suddenly went so wrong and they won’t find any sympathy from the rest of the world.

By the way, If I had CAPITALIZED every few WORDS of my POST, would it have MADE what I have to SAY any more INTERESTING? Just WONDERING.
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Funny how when Richt was LOSING the year BEFORE last…all you JAWJA fans could do what talk ABOUT how SABAN was outworking RICHT. AND how you wanted RICHT gone because HE wasn’t competing……….NOW he’s a SAINT…..USED to respect UGA, know I just REALIZE they are AWBURN lite…COULD also be said that for YEARS UGA was giving GEORGIA players false hope WHEN they were “WINNING”(couldn’t win a title or beat UF) and BAMA was in the midst of some DOWN seasons….now LOOK!!! BAMA is BACK…what goes around comes around

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
4:37 pm

At least the headline has been changed to something realistic now

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:38 pm

TUSCALOOSA – While most programs spent the weekend trying to finish harvesting their recruiting class before Wednesday’s National Signing Day, Alabama planted the seeds for a bumper crop in 2013 with its first Junior Day on Saturday.

The results were startling.

Alabama earned three verbal commitments from players who will be seniors in high school this fall, including coveted running back Altee Tenpenny of North Little Rock, Ark.
Later, wide receiver Raheem Falkins of New Orleans announced he would go to school in
Tuscaloosa.

Most of the visitors this weekend were touted out-of-state prospects. However, all-purpose athlete ArDarius Stewart of Fultondale – one of the top-ranked juniors in the state of Alabama – also verbally committed on Saturday.

Better tell CMR he needs to get on the recruiting trail because SABAN barely sleeps. He is after BRICE RAMSEY

Brown Dog

February 5th, 2012
4:39 pm

the language in these stories has grown more incendiary with each installment. Interesting couple of points worth mentioning, while we look back fondly into the mists of time on what used to known as objective journalism. What’s the matter, Michael, no editors around on Sunday?

1. Funny how DT’s coach says that Alabama was the most honest group He and his player dealt with. That’s the same description you hear again and again. Even the kid who changed his commitment to Tech said the very same thing. It’s so repetitive it’s almost boring: The US coaches are straight-forward. The UA coaches don’t,bad mouth other schools. And yet that little piece of context never appears in any of these articles. Nothing like reporting to support a foregone conclusion.

2. Nobody here knows when the grayshirt was first mentioned. Folks around the program say it came up early on and was finalized two weeks to a month out. If the kids were warned at the start, the school has met its responsibility. The Tomlinson scenario of committing on MLK day appears to bear this out.

3. There’s a new story out of Arkansas that Philon’s knee injury is worse than what’s been reported. If so, the fact that Saban only asked him to wait 4 months is pretty remarkable. Auburn, which was calling recruits before dawn on NSD in a failed effort to fill out its class, and where Philon committed originally, didn’t offer. Wonder why?

4. Every kid who was ever offered a grayshirt under Saban has received it. No exceptions. Not a one.

5. The AJC finally talks to a kid who says nice things about UA, but to compensate you up the wattage of your language. I’m an Alabama fan who’s not at all comfortable that two long time recruits will be attending school elsewhere. But the AJC seems to have lost its composure. Happy to hear that you requested information from Alabama. Why don’t you turn down the vitriol until you get it.

gt4ever

February 5th, 2012
4:42 pm

@ ga gator and whineyugafans,

You guys don’t have a clue about why GT left the SEC… and I NEVER said anything about our athletes being mental giants….

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:44 pm

hey Jawja fans when Nkemdiche signs with BAMA are you going to cry about how Mickey Conn(his high school coach and former Bama player…(for most of you ignorant ga fans)) is actually a PLANT from Bama…put in place by the BAMA AD to persuade the best recruits to go to Bama?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:46 pm

The kids knee is worse than expected possibly. He has not had knee sugery. So why should BAMA go out on the limb for him.

I blame his High School Coach who stated that Philon wanted to play in the playoffs. That is being very selfish. If he would have went and had the surgery in December then SABAN would have known how extensive it was. At first it was stated that it was a MCL, but new reports are that it worse than than that.

“It’s not a big secret that the knee is worse than just a minor deal,” said one person in the Mobile area involved in the sports scene. “He also hasn’t had any success with any rehab.”

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:47 pm

You guys don’t have a clue about why GT left the SEC… and I NEVER said anything about our athletes being mental giants….
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but it was because Bama was unethical?? LOL….grow a pair…if your gonna spout nonsense then back your statements up….oh wait…bet your an AJC writer….don’t need validity….just a bunch of sheep to blindly follow your BS story.

Chris

February 5th, 2012
4:48 pm

First off both had SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA…… and second name one greyshirt that saban didn’t sign the following year??????? I am really getting sick of hearing about this CRAP he gave these players time to take visits to other schools and make a decision on their future so its NOT HIS FAULT… and with the Mark Richt stuff I guess he don’t instill any of his Christian values with his players because does these last two arrests make 50 in the last two years… reneged haters are gonna hate but you can hate us when we win number 15 and graduate our players yeah that’s right we do that too….. #look it up…. ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:51 pm

The other schools are happy they get a player that BAMA has recruited and offered a grayshirt.

1. Kentucky got one last year and another this year

2. Ole Miss got one last year.

3. Arkansas gets one this year.

WhineyUGAfans

February 5th, 2012
4:51 pm

First off both had SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA…… and second name one greyshirt that saban didn’t sign the following year??????? I am really getting sick of hearing about this CRAP he gave these players time to take visits to other schools and make a decision on their future so its NOT HIS FAULT… and with the Mark Richt stuff I guess he don’t instill any of his Christian values with his players because does these last two arrests make 50 in the last two years… reneged haters are gonna hate but you can hate us when we win number 15 and graduate our players yeah that’s right we do that too….. #look it up…. ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Excellent point, so while Richt is putting up bail for his players….Saban is graduating his………….. and Saban is the evil one?…LMAO.

thegingerninja

February 5th, 2012
4:52 pm

Its recruiting of 18 yr. olds to play a game people!!! Get a life!!!

bigtime

February 5th, 2012
4:54 pm

I’m up to 4 posts deleted in this thread. All for linking an article in Hogs247 talking about how Philon injured his knee in November and still hasn’t had it scoped. The only way to see how severe the injury is was to scope it but that still hasn’t happened. With the new 25 rule, Bama could not afford to offer him a scholarship until they knew the severity of this injury.

SatchelBuzz

February 5th, 2012
4:56 pm

Good luck Dalvin,…..you’re going to need it.

THWG!!!

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
4:56 pm

“I blame his High School Coach who stated that Philon wanted to play in the playoffs. That is being very selfish. If he would have went and had the surgery in December then SABAN would have known how extensive it was. At first it was stated that it was a MCL, but new reports are that it worse than than that.”

The nerve of the kid – trying to play football in HS and helping his team win. How selfish can you get!

againstcorruption

February 5th, 2012
4:57 pm

Until the NCAA takes care of business over in T-Town the same thing will happen over and over. Dirty program is the reason for the national championship, nothing else.Has been going on for years.

59bulldawg

February 5th, 2012
4:58 pm

If you do indeed get to interview Saban please ask the hard questions and aggressively follow up. What he does is unethical and gives Alabama an unfair competitive advantage.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
4:58 pm

bigtime ………………………….Hard to believe that his Parents and the Coaches let this kid play during the playoffs. They were not looking out for his best interest.

This is where it starts to get interesting.

In a first-round Class 5A playoff victory in November, Philon suffered a knee injury and didn’t return to that game, but did hobble through the rest of the playoffs. His coach, Kerry Stevenson, said a day later the knee would require surgery, but that it hadn’t been scheduled yet. As of this past Wednesday, that surgery had still not been scheduled. Stevenson told the Mobile Press-Register the doctors wouldn’t know the severity of the injury until it was scoped.

In the championship game, which the Wolves won, Philon had 10 tackles, a sack and a fumble recovery. He was able to have that kind of game because their opponent — knowing of the injury weeks before — tried running straight ahead at him instead of at Winston, the other defensive end for Vigor. Philon played after being told doing so would not injure the knee further. It was a heckuva game if you go by the raw numbers.

“He didn’t have to do a heckuva lot,” said one coach who saw the game. “He’s strong and was able to make the plays coming right at him, which was the thing to do when you have a defensive lineman everybody in the state knows is playing on one leg.”

Recruiting Games

February 5th, 2012
4:59 pm

K-Town Dawg

February 5th, 2012
5:01 pm

The simple solution here is an early signing period. Those that wait until NSD would only be risking their spot.

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:01 pm

If UGA fans are so concerned for the two players that signed with ARK and KY, why did UGA pull the offers to these kids? UGA left 7 scholarships on the table on NSD and along with the 3 kicked off the team this week, that leaves UGA with 10 scholarships to offer walkons. That’s the way to win a championship? With 10 walkons?

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:03 pm

Michael- By the way, both LSU and ARK asked players to greyshirt, too. When will you write about those players?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
5:07 pm

Paul in NH ……………………..Yes, the coaches, parents should have had his kneeand future in their best interest. He should not have played in the playoffs. The Coaches should have told him that he will not play at all and he should have had surgery as soon as the swelling went down.

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:11 pm

The NCAA rules allow greyshirting for the benefit of high school players. Understand the rules and that will help explain why greyshirting exists for the benefit of players and colleges in the FBS. If a player wants to go to a particular college and scholarships are not availble for the present year, the NCAA allows for a 4 month deferral to be counted the following year. This exists for both player injuries, roster management and after signing day decisions. UNDERSTAND THE RULES.

reality

February 5th, 2012
5:16 pm

Rozier quote above…. “He was Nick’s boy”….. BOO, this reecks of the 1950’s

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
5:16 pm

@gt4ever GT getting out of the SEC was the best thing they have ever done! GT would be getting trucked just about every Sat if they were still in the SEC, running that bogus High school offense. That offense works in DivII not with the big boys!Bad enough AJC keeps sparking this same topic just to draw interest and now GT fans are joining their cross state rival.
Roll Tide

RTR22

February 5th, 2012
5:18 pm

All of you ill informed folks calling CNS a liar and user of kids perhaps need to get some perspective from the kids that have played for him. I would dare guess that you would hear an entirely different story. All you know really know about the man is what writers like MC print and yes they have an agenda.

Greyshirting is not the same thing as not offering a scholly or withdrawing a scholly. A student athlete has 5 yrs to complete 4 yrs of eligibility. A GS simply means your calendar starts a few months later.
Kids coming off knee injuries are not going to play their Freshmen year at Alabama or any other SEC school for that matter. They will be redshirted. So what is the difference if your first year starts in Jan 13 with still 5 yrs to play 4 or you start in Sept 12 and redshirt your first year? Both Taylor and Philon
had their chance to join the CT in 2013, and they made another decision. Good for them and hopefully it works out,

CS like all D1 HC are responsible for finding the best 25 kids possible each year. Alabama is not running a day care or goodwill center. It is a multimillion dollar entity where the bottom line is winning. If you think it is any different at Jawja, get your head out of the sand and open your eyes, or pull for the Ivy League schools. GS has worked and justifyably so for kids like Atlanta Falcons QB, John Parker Wilson. If you do not like GS, thats fine, but roster management is no different than being in the real world, and we all know fairness has nothing to do with anything, good, bad, or indifferent. Enjoy the SB and Roll Tide

Chris

February 5th, 2012
5:19 pm

Hey AJC why don’t you interview UGA and Tech coaches and ask them why they don’t win???? Cause if they won you be writing a new article that says the same thing….. get a life

navy92

February 5th, 2012
5:19 pm

Keep waiting on Saban to call you back. I’m sure you are high on his list of priorities. Why don’t you call Les Miles and ask him about the offensive lineman, Miller, who he asked to grayshirt at the last minute, or the guy from LSU who had to leave school after he had already enrolled because LSU had too much signees.

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:20 pm

Let’s talk about how many players are on scholarship at UGA? That is, true schoalrships. Not walkons provided a scolly after enrolling. Colleges are allowed 85……..Most are at or near 85……

UGA????

JB

February 5th, 2012
5:20 pm

Well, as a Dawg fan, i’ve been hard on Bama the last week or so…But I’ve rethought it. It’s a good problem to have. They have more elite players interested in their program than they can sign…And Saban is all about winning. It’s what he’s paid to do. A few hurt feelings along the way will have to get over it. 2 National titles at Bama for him while we bitch and moan about the system. We’ve been waiting 31 years for another one, 11 on Richt. We as Dawg fans need to move on…….and yes, this was hard to type.

reality

February 5th, 2012
5:20 pm

From day one, Dalvin was going to Alabama. He kept delaying and everything, and it got kind of close with the scholarship numbers. But Nick wanted Dalvin from day one. He was Nick’s boy

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
5:21 pm

AJC……………………………..Report all you want to. Just report when BAMA wins another BCS in the years to come.

navy92

February 5th, 2012
5:24 pm

I guess one way to look at these articles is that Bama stays in the AJC. Thanks!!!!

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:25 pm

Roster management and player management are both KEY ingredients for success…..

What colleges do that well year in and year out?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
5:26 pm

navy92 ………………………………please find the kids name that had enrolled at LSU and had gone thru summer workouts and was asked to leave because LES MILES had no more scholarships to give.

I had his name listed at one time but have misplaced it. That would be a story to tell. If you can find that kids name I would appreciate it from a fellow BAMA FAN !!!!!!!!!

JB………………………….Hats off to you for saying the obvious.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
5:29 pm

@JB that may have been hard to type but it is the truth; to bad more UGA fans don’t see it but are happy with the situation now at Georgia. I have posted before Richt in my opinion does a decent job. Needs to keep football business in house period! What goes on in that locker room should stay there. Rodney Garner has gone stagnant and he to me is the problem, he is the head of recruiting! Garner used to be an elite recruiter not anymore.
Roll Tide

DawgFan

February 5th, 2012
5:31 pm

Justin Taylor was a fluke, I’m pretty DAMN sure that he was not the only kid in the country that got snubbed this year. As a Dawg fan, I long for the day that most of the top recruits want to come to Athens, too bad it won’t happen anytime soon. Bama is just light years ahead of everyone else in the SEC. Dawg fans need to stop the bashing because all your really doing is showing your envy.

FL Jacket

February 5th, 2012
5:33 pm

“I think basically what we did was, because of the cynical attitude people have towards whether coaches are really doing what’s in the best interest of the young people that we coach, which I sort of resent, to be honest with you, because that’s one of the things that we pride ourselves in, we actually took some opportunities away from guys that really wanted to come to Alabama that we couldn’t sign, and they couldn’t come here because we couldn’t offer that [sign and grayshirt] option to them.”

Really Nick? I don’t have a reason to be cynical of you, and other coaches like you, who offer a scholarship to a kid for this year’s class, take his commitment, and then turn around and reject your end of the bargain? THEY COULDN’T SIGN? Are you serious…it’s more like WE DIDN’T ALLOW THEM TO SIGN.

If he honestly had these kids’ best interests at heart, he wouldn’t consider an option that delayed a kid from achieving his degree an option at all. The only think that the Nicktator resents is the negative spotlight he’s getting over these 2 kids…after all, the fans don’t need to know right?

SOUTH WILL RISE

February 5th, 2012
5:39 pm

JUSTIN TAYLOR WAS DONE WRONG. Saban is very consistent about offering 3 times more schlorships than he has openings. Very dirty. I hope all of the georgia high school recruits remember this. Guys stay in state with the DAWGS or TECH. No brainer,Saban is a scam!!!! He does not care who he hurts or steps on.

BigDaddyDawg

February 5th, 2012
5:40 pm

This has got to make Bama fans feel like crap! Saban is a low life. Win at any cost. I hate anything about Alabamer

Jacket Grad Dad

February 5th, 2012
5:41 pm

Did UGA or GT play games with Tomlinson……. That paragraph makes no sense! It should have said, “Did Tomlinson play GT or UGA more?” and the answer was easily GT. If he’s known all along he was going to AL, then he has many quotes and comments to go back and apologize for.

Look, he’s welcomed to make whatever decision he wants. However, how he handled it in regards to GT showed “the type of character he has”…….

Special K

February 5th, 2012
5:44 pm

Folks get your own house in order, ok! Nuff said.

DawgFan

February 5th, 2012
5:46 pm

“Very Dirty”, really. Show me one D1 school that is Lilly White and I’ll show you a school that’s full of crap. Even our beloved CMR has faults. Unfortunately I have personal ties to Coach Richt and could spill some info that would upset UGA fans but I have scrupples. Get a life people an quit sniffing Saban’s jock. The jealousy stinks to high heaven on here, let’s worry about our own program people.

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
5:47 pm

You Leg Humpers just are sore LOSERS. You are the best program and periennial national champs from February thru August. Your President leads the charge against grayshirting and then you whine when these kids face life’s realities just like you whine with you have the face the reality of your 2nd tier status each football season. The two Alabama Writers quoted above are barn homers and are still hurting from 42-14 and you guys just buy into to the whining giving your whining nature. Facts are – Bama is the elite of the SEC..always has been and always will be. We should go back to 35-40 schollys a year and let the big boys play. Of course that would leave just table scraps for you Leg Humpers.

AlabamaRamblinwreck

February 5th, 2012
5:48 pm

I don’t agree with gaggers on much, but agreeing that sa(b)an is evil, that is easy. He is the most evil coach in division 1, and he only cares about sa(b)an.

College football, for everyone but bammers, is really going to suck for the next few years. How do we stop this NFL team from Tuscaloosa?

Just sad.

AlabamaRamblinwreck

February 5th, 2012
5:50 pm

sa(b)an now has dalvin’s soul….that is all he wants, the souls of these young men, and he throws others in the the waste.

Reel

February 5th, 2012
5:50 pm

UGA and its chirping fans have no idea of what it takes to play as a champion and win as champions. Football has alot of aspects: players, coaches, opportunities, attitudes, rules, conferences, etc. Those that do these things the best usually win or have a chance to win. When UGA can do these things in the FALL of each year, not the other times of the year, you can say that success is near.

poopdawg

February 5th, 2012
5:51 pm

No problems for Bama this year, but when you commit to them in the future what does it mean? It will come back and bite them but by then Saban will be long gone.

Gorilla Biscuit

February 5th, 2012
5:53 pm

So, Saban is a liar and a manipulator. Imagine that.

daddo

February 5th, 2012
5:56 pm

I’m sorry, our national championships can’t hear u. Kids want to play for Alabama, and competition for spots is tough. Apparently, at UGA yall can’t GIVE scholarships away.

SEC Fan

February 5th, 2012
5:57 pm

Dawg fans are jock sniffing, jealous, non factor, garbage spewing morons. 31 year old dry spell which to me says you are a bottom dweller in the SEC. Come on here and run your cork suckers when you actually have something to back it up. Best of luck with your mediocrity. LOSERS!

Brown Dog

February 5th, 2012
5:59 pm

Say Michael, while you’re waiting for that call back from Tuscaloosa, why don’t you pull up the Justin Thomas story, how he said flat out how Saban came to talk with him and his family, made his case for Justin to stay, then urged him to do,what he thought was best.

or maybe go interview some of the other kids Saban recruited in Georgia, even those who got away. Maybe it will plant the seed for a little balance in your one-source stories about Alabama recruiting. Otherwise, mark these as opinion and be done with the laughable notion that you’re actually attempting journalism.

gadawgs

February 5th, 2012
5:59 pm

Dalvin’s coach made the comment that Dalvin was always Saban’s “boy”. If I was him I sure would not want to play for a racist coach like Saban.Just sayin…..

SEC Fan

February 5th, 2012
6:00 pm

When referring to UGA we should call them Gator Bitches!!!

kb

February 5th, 2012
6:00 pm

01 hawk, Cut it out with the condescending Saban gets who he wants crap, he wanted , Drew,Mitchell Rome, Jenkins et. al and he wanted the 4 kids FSU signed from the state of Alabama this year too. He also wanted the QB FSU signed. Fact is he got 3 kids from Georgia this year and 2 in 2011 Georgia really wanted He does a great job, but cut the BS if Saban wants them thats where their going to go.Then you talk about other teams taking kids because they won’t qualify at bama, get over yourself.

God

February 5th, 2012
6:02 pm

Nick Saban is my mortal enemy – Satan. NCAA rules will be changed because of this scumbag.

Ryan

February 5th, 2012
6:02 pm

it’s the kids fault too. they are the ones who decide they want to go to bama. it’s not a one way street.

Brown Dog

February 5th, 2012
6:02 pm

Gadawg, read it again and slowly. That was the phrase used by the high school coach, not Saban.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:03 pm

Saban treats the Bama program like its an NFL franchise. There is no respect for the values of intercollegiate athletics. His presence devalues the image and the supposed mission of the University of Alabama as an academic institution. Saban has brought a new level of sliminess into the SEC and others have had to lower their standards or be left behind. Now, Meyer is taking that sliminess into the Big 10. The NCAA looking the other way is a travesty, but its gotten so bad that steps are now being taken to alleviate some of it. There is the “Saban” rule, where you can’t sign more than 25 per year. Hopefully, they will pass the 4 year scholarship measure.

Gorilla Biscuit

February 5th, 2012
6:03 pm

“Then you talk about other teams taking kids because they won’t qualify at bama, get over yourself.”

Who COULD take a kid if he didn’t qualify for BAMA?

Evan in Norcross

February 5th, 2012
6:04 pm

Georgia opens 2012 season with Buffalo. Bama opens 2012 season with Michigan. That’s all you need to know about the two programs.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:05 pm

BigDaddyDawg

February 5th, 2012
5:40 pm

This has got to make Bama fans feel like crap

No………………………It makes me feel good knowing BAMA has the # 1 program in College Football and that so many are envious of BAMA.

1980……………………………………………………So 32 years ago………………..Just Sayin.

Tell CMR to learn how to recruit like SABAN……………………….OH……………….He CAN’T

kb

February 5th, 2012
6:05 pm

Alabama is the elite of the SEC always has been always will be . 1 SEC title past 11 years.
Zero wins from 2005 to 2007 because of ncaa violations , bowl bans still on probation. Bama is the best in the SEC right now today, some people don’t know how to handle success.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:07 pm

I notice a lot of Bama supporters on here rationalizing Saban’s behavior. If its just about the “’ships, baby!” as y’all say, don’t rationlize. Just say “we may be slimy, but we bring home the trophy!” BE PROUD!

Richard Head

February 5th, 2012
6:07 pm

SEC Fan. Time for a valium buddy. You’ve got too much hate in you. Just for the record, less than half the SEC teams have won a National Championship since UGA did so you need to lighten up.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:09 pm

LakeDawg ……………………………Actually MRS. NUTT at OLE MRS. was the main abuser in the SEC. Go and look it up.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:11 pm

LakeDawg ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,How about this MR. 1980

We are not SLIME……………………………………And we win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HATER ALERT………………………HATER ALERT………………..SOUND THE HORN

TISSUE ANYONE !!!!!!

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
6:13 pm

The LSU kid who signed his LOI on NSD, enrolled in June and was on campus for months before being told he would have to grayshirt was Elliott Porter. He transferred to Kentucky. That Les Miles is a prince.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:13 pm

Hank …………………………That is the only way they can even try to keep BAMA from taking some of their top recruits………………………….But, that will not work.

Brice RAMSEY is on the RADAR

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:14 pm

LakeDawg ……………………………Actually MRS. NUTT at OLE MRS. was the main abuser in the SEC. Go and look it up.
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Ah, “the used car salesman.” He was lousy at it and didn’t cause others to react to him. And of course, that doesn’t excuse Saban’s behavior.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:16 pm

Lets talk about the other Coach that WHUPS your FANNIES…………………LES IS LESS MILES of LSU

Elliot Porter learns tough lesson in college football

Posted by NBC Sports on August 11, 2010, 11:00 PM EST

Former LSU commit Elliot Porter was excited about playing for the Tigers and head coach Les Miles. That was, of course, until Porter was recently summoned into Miles’ office and told he was no longer going to receive a scholarship to play football.

At least not right away.

Miles informed the offensive lineman from Waggaman, LA, that he was chosen to be grayshirted, a process where he would be delayed from receiving his football scholarship until, most likely, next year.

“He just told me that they didn’t have room for me. I moved out of my dorm today and I am now back home trying to figure everything out. It’s been a rough 24 hours,” said Porter after learning his future.

Twenty-seven players signed letters of intent to LSU for the 2010 recruiting class, but the NCAA only allows twenty-five scholarships to be given. However, there are loopholes to the rule and some coaches take full advantage of them.

If a student enrolls early, his scholarship does not count toward the twenty-five player cap. There is also the probability that one or more of those commits will fail to qualify academically, get into legal trouble or just plain not show up.

In LSU’s case, all twenty-seven signees met the requirements, which meant two players needed to be cut. Unfortunately for Porter, he was one of them.

foothills

February 5th, 2012
6:17 pm

Nice job of teaching here Coach Rozier….consider yourself part of todays problem regarding kids not having respect for anything. But you will be able to tell someone 30 yrs. from now that you met Nick Saban.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 5th, 2012
6:17 pm

Mike trying his best to help UGA recruiting but sport you will fail. Try and understand nobody took away either kids scholly from the U of A but only asked them to delay until Jan of 2013. Both would reshirt if they weren’t injuried but then again you crying beaches are looking for some points instead of the truth You keep the preacher man because he is good for all the other teams in the SEC that value winning. Richt,Graner and Bobo are three of the most negative recruiters in the country and only auburn can rival those thugs. You may wish to consider what Nick will go vs you leg humpers if by chance you get into a contest vs Bama. This time he will not call off the dogs and will truly beat the sheet out of you with intent!!!! Suck it Jawjaw…

Troup Co. Dawg

February 5th, 2012
6:18 pm

If CNS were to pass away suddenly…What whould the man (not the coach) be remembered for?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:19 pm

Ramsey is not a lock for UGA……………………………Sweat it out PUPPIES

The state of Georgia has been a major pipeline of talent for Saban and his staff at Alabama and that figures to continue into the 2013 recruiting cycle, with one of the state’s top stars, Reuben Foster, already committed to the Tide for 2013. Alabama extended an offer over the weekend to Camden County quarterback Brice Ramsey, a 6-foot-3, 197-pound signal caller who is currently committed to Georgia. The four-star quarterback told 247Sports that while he remains committed to the Bulldogs, he plans on visiting Tuscaloosa in the near future after receiving an offer over the phone from Saban on Sunday night.

“I definitely want to go out there to Alabama and see what it’s like. I went out there for the first LSU game and it was kind of surreal. I liked the atmosphere of the game and the coaching staff was real nice. All I really saw was the atmosphere because we got there right at game time. I want to see what it’s like normally, I guess. I’ll probably go up there in the next couple weeks.”

Dmitri

February 5th, 2012
6:19 pm

It would have been nice to know when he did. Good luck Dalvin!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:21 pm

Troup Co. Dawg

February 5th, 2012
6:18 pm

If CNS were to pass away suddenly…What whould the man (not the coach) be remembered for?

3 BCS Championships

In CMR’S case………………………It would be

0 BCS games invited to

IL Jacket

February 5th, 2012
6:23 pm

Alabama Football:

Justin Taylor

Darius Philon

Harvey Updyke

Brian Downing

‘Nuf Said.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:24 pm

If CNS were to pass away suddenly…What whould the man (not the coach) be remembered for?
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A very telling question, Troup Co. Dawg. What’s that bible passage? Oh yeah, “And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?”

Troup Co. Dawg

February 5th, 2012
6:29 pm

Life is too short! Every thing happens for a reason…I don’t think you understand!

IL Jacket

February 5th, 2012
6:29 pm

Based on this article, I am glad Tomlinson went to Bammer. Sounds like character challenged individuals flocking together.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:30 pm

Gerald……………………..I agree. 3 STAR recruits are not recruited that often by schools like BAMA.

I would tell any recruit to take your visits. Recruits alot of times are not up front with the schools.

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
6:31 pm

@Gerald,
There is only one thing wrong with your post – even enrolling early doesn’t guarantee a kid a scholarship. Elliott Porter found that out at LSU.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:33 pm

I wonder why no one talks about OLE MRS, MRS ST, LSU, SC, FLA, VANDY, ETC.

OLE MRS. and Houston Get a NUTT………………………Were nthe worse abusers and the rule that the SEC has was due to MRS. NUTT

Dmitri

February 5th, 2012
6:34 pm

Well said Gerald. Thank you

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:37 pm

OLE MRS. and Houston Get a NUTT………………………Were nthe worse abusers and the rule that the SEC has was due to MRS. NUTT
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Then why is it called the “Saban rule?”

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:37 pm

Can we talk about HOUSTON NUTT – MEG ? Oh, I forgot………………He does not win even SEC Conference Championships and he was fired.

“The rule is you have to sign 25 by August,” Nutt said. “We’ve never broken that rule. What you try to do is try to be truthful, what happens is on signing day you truly don’t know 100% who will actually sign or you don’t know who will be eligible. You have some who are very close, you have some who have qualified and you have some who are still working on it, that’s the other reason for you oversign a little bit.”

In 2009, Nutt signed 37 players, which is why many dubbed the SEC limit as “the Houston Nutt rule.” Nutt explained he knew seven of those players were going to go to junior college and two were headed to military prep school.

“You knew the ones who were going to make it and you knew the ones who had a backup plan,” Nutt said. Heading into signing day, Nutt said that he tells those players who may have to gray shirt this: “Right now you don’t have a scholarship. Here are your choices: You can go sign with another school or you can wait and sign with us, see who becomes eligible then if there’s a slot and someone doesn’t become eligible, you’re the next guy up.”

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:39 pm

Actually, only a few can enroll early. Its not like everybody can. Early enrollees count against the previous class.

bigtime

February 5th, 2012
6:39 pm

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:40 pm

IL Jacket ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Go back to the :

ACC BLOGS

All……………………………………..Cissy…………………………….Conference

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

“Right now you don’t have a scholarship. Here are your choices: You can go sign with another school or you can wait and sign with us, see who becomes eligible then if there’s a slot and someone doesn’t become eligible, you’re the next guy up.”

Isn’t that what Saban told Taylor? I get Saban and Nutt confused.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:42 pm

Uniformed DAWG FANS…………………..Read this and if you can not comprehend, then read it again. The rule was made due to HOUSTON GET A NUTT

In 2009, Nutt signed 37 players, which is why many dubbed the SEC limit as “the Houston Nutt rule.” Nutt explained he knew seven of those players were going to go to junior college and two were headed to military prep school.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:44 pm

IL JACKET……………………………So sorry we took what was going to be your best player. No time to cry over spilled milk………………………..It is time for you to run the OPTION !!!!!!!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:46 pm

LakeDawg ………………………………….WOW……………………You get NUTT and SABAN confused ?

WOW……………………One is a HALL of Fame Coach and the other is just an awful Coach.

I thought you were smarter than that

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:49 pm

IL JACKET……………………….We did give you Justin Thomas and Hankins. By the way, BAMA did not offer Beau a scholarship and Thomas was recruited as an athlete and he wanted to play QB, but is not tall enough for SABANS offense.

still a dawg fan

February 5th, 2012
6:50 pm

Not a good kid to play everyone like he did. If this kid is so smart he would have known better but apparently he is just a self centered kid & everything is about me & not the TEAM.

PS: don’t get HURT because if you do Satan will revoke that scholarship in order to sign another player. So all HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS BEWARE IF YOU COMMIT TO ALABAMA THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THEY WILL REVOKE THAT OFFER IF THEY FIND A KID THEY LIKE BETTER & IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE THERE FIRST COMMITMENT.GOOD PEOPLE DON’T DO THIS TO KIDS

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
6:53 pm

Can we talk over signing with HOUSTON NUTT ?

Or, with LESS MILES oversigning ?

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:53 pm

Hopefully the NCAA will add a second “Saban rule,” the 4 year scholly rule.

BamaGoose

February 5th, 2012
6:57 pm

navy92

February 5th, 2012
6:59 pm

Title of this article should have been: Dalvin Tomlinson’s connection to Georgia’s undersigning scandal.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
6:59 pm

Can we talk over signing with HOUSTON NUTT ?

Or, with LESS MILES oversigning ?
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The article is about Tricky Nick. Besides, Nutt is irrelevant. Granted Miles oversigns, also. However, he just doesn’t seem quite as sleazy as Saban.

Tdawg

February 5th, 2012
7:00 pm

I will tell you exactly why Thomblinson didn’t let on that he had committed to Alabama. Because he is a coward. If the Goldman kid had committed to Alabama instead FSU, Thomblinsons and that yellow streak running down the length of his back, would be at GT right now. He waited until the Goldman kid made his commitment and then made his. Scared of the competition, plain and simple. Good thing Goldman went to FSU or we may have never found out about how big of a coward Thomblinson is. Just curious! What kid would have gotten the shaft if the Goldman kid and Thomblinson had both committed to Alabama? Did they have a 4th kid that had some sort of injury that they could use as a excuse to give him the shaft also?

Saban………..UmUmUmUm, what a peice of work you are. I have been a football fan, especially a college football fan for 45 years and I have never in all my days met a more dishonest, snake in the grass, gutless coach in my life. The man obviously has no concience. Do you see how easy the lie’s just roll right off of his tounge? This is the kind of man and I use the word man, grudgingly, that Alabama fans are so willing to accept as a great man. The Alabama fans kind of remind me of the German people in the early 30’s, They are so starved for attention that they will proclaim a person the likes of Nick Saban as their savior. You know that person that the German’s turn too was a not so nice of a man in his own right. The German people were so down trodden, kind of like the preSaban football years at Alabama was, that they blindly followed that man to their ultimate destruction. You see the German people didn’t care what their leader did either as long as it got them what they wanted. Kind of like the Bama fans are doing with Saban now. A man that doesn’t have one ounce of intergerty in his entire body. I guess it’s true when they say promise them everything and they will blindly follow you anywhere.

bigtime

February 5th, 2012
7:02 pm

BamaGoose

February 5th, 2012
6:57 pm
http://arkansas.247sec.com/2012/02/03/the-curious-journey-of-signee-darius-philon/

The truth hurts since the AJC keeps deleting my posts..

The AJC doesn’t want people reading responsible journalism. I’ve had 4 posts deleted that included that very same link.

247sports HAHA

February 5th, 2012
7:04 pm

Just read 247sports article … typical 247sports reporting i.e. NO REAL SOURCES .. “It’s not a big secret that the knee is worse than just a minor deal,” said one person in the Mobile area involved in the sports scene. Who is the &*$#@ is “one person in the Mobile area involved in the sports scene”??????

navy92

February 5th, 2012
7:06 pm

Not sure why folks are now crying for 4 year scholarships. If you receive a 4 year academic scholarship and don’t live up to expectations, guess what, you risk losing that scholarship. Just because a scholarship is for 4 years doesn’t automatically mean you’ll be able to keep it for 4 years. Folks like Austin Long and the other lineman with the chronic knees problems should have been cut loose a long time ago. They can still keep their scholarship and get their degree but at least a couple more spots would open up for someone who can contribute. Sometimes it’s just not meant to be.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
7:07 pm

Heil Saban! BTW The link being posted doesn’t have any truth, just supposition. Its main source is an anonymous sports fan. LMAO

TD club

February 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

AMAZING REPORTING BY 247SPORTS. Did they interview the guy selling popcorn?

bigtime

February 5th, 2012
7:12 pm

The truth is in the trophy case…but UGA fans wouldn’t know anything about that, now would they?

Robber

February 5th, 2012
7:15 pm

I guess First Amendment Rights are reserved for the AJC and not for the public. Delete this post as well.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
7:15 pm

Article should have read:

SABAN and BAMA SCREW OVER GEORGIA and GEORGIA TECHIES

Rationale

February 5th, 2012
7:16 pm

It does not take integrity or respect to win a ballgame. You do have to have it, to teach it, present it or act like you have it. Any time you have to proclaim that you have it, or the people you work with have it, is an obvious sign that you do not know what it is.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
7:18 pm

@IL Jacket well we at Bama are glad you have blessed this! Now get back to that tire fire called GT football
ROLL TIDE

Tampa Gator

February 5th, 2012
7:20 pm

The only stories I read like this concern one school and one coach…..period. The SEC needs to do something about the “commit” thing. I say a “commit” should be a permanent thing…unless both the coach and the player agree to go their seperate ways…..not just the coach….and not just the player.

Recruiting has become Hollywood like….and I am sick of the process.

Also…..signing day should be signing day….and if a recruit does not sign by signing day….if offered by at least one school……then that recruit should have to wait until the next signing day to sign. I get the feeling that more and more recruits are going to seek additional headlines by waiting until after signing day to sign……”ME”…….

I hope Diggs comes to Florida (the Gators need a dynamic playmaker at WR badly)…..but I am beginning to Wonder if he is a team first or a me first type of player.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

Tampa Gator I think it may have to do with grades right now, not fact but I read something in passing that mentioned that. He would be a great pickup for the gators for sure.
Roll Tide

res1959

February 5th, 2012
7:29 pm

Hard to take this reporter seriously when he doesn’t even know that Philon has YET to have surgery despite what is reported in the article. How hard would it be to confirm that point?

Stinger2

February 5th, 2012
7:32 pm

When Tomlinson started his coy game of I have made my decision but I am not telling until signing day, it was a signal that the was playing GT and UGA along. Dumb me never though that. I believed that he was doing it just to get more attention from the media like having a reporter chase him around all day.

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
7:36 pm

You Leg Humpers need to direct your displeasure to your school Pres and AD. Oh yea, that is right, the school pres just led a ncaa committee to further reduce schollys from 85 to 80 and against the wishes of the SEC. The AD continues to let CMR protect Bobo and you Leg humpers are on here whining about Winners and CHAMPIONS. No wonder you can display your trophies inside a economy sized car trunk. What a Joke!!!

tired of this jerk

February 5th, 2012
7:40 pm

So not only is Saban unethical, he’s also a liar. What a scumbag.

Nick Saban

February 5th, 2012
7:43 pm

I do what I want! If I want to play around with the future of a few high schoolers, I do it! This is my world and if you criticize me, I will look at you in a very stern manner and act offended!

Footballrules

February 5th, 2012
7:44 pm

@Saban Never Sleeps….it OUGHT to be reduced to a 75 limit. The minimum SAT score should be 800 (using old system). There should be no redshirting/greyshirting, or any other shirting. Four years, and then out. College football is a MESS and needs to be cleaned up. I’m sure the great Bama will lead the way….LOL.

JB

February 5th, 2012
7:46 pm

@Saban Never Sleeps: Bama certainly has a great tradition of winning. They also have a great tradition of cheating. The father of modern cheating in college football is Bear Bryant. His disciples Pell, Ford, Sherrill, Dubose etc. learned well from the master. So you know what you can do with your trophies bud.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
7:49 pm

If all of these rules get instituted, Saban will leave for the NFL. He will never leave Bama as long as he has the built in advantages he has now, such as a WHOLE state that will look the other way. Unfortunately for him, these new rules will cut into that advantage.

14 titles!

February 5th, 2012
7:50 pm

Nick’s got it going–#14 in 2011, going for #15 in 2012!! This bama team may be one the best ever!! RTR!!!

Footballrules

February 5th, 2012
7:52 pm

Hate to agree with a Dawg, but JB, you ar 100% correct. Many of us remember the sixties and early seventies with the Bear on TV, standing on the sideline, lost in a crowd of around 120 players. He would go out and sign players he KNEW would NEVER see the field, but he didn’t want them playing for Bobby Dodd, Wally Butts, Vince Dooley, Shug Jordan, Frank Howard, Ray Graves, or anyone else.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
7:56 pm

Hey! Making no excuses for Saban. Did not say I wanted him as a father but as a coach no problem. He gets it done. Can’t say that for some other local coaches.

LakeDawg

February 5th, 2012
8:00 pm

@Footballrules

I remember those days. Bama’s third string were better than a lot of teams 1st stringers. BTW JB, you can add Pat Dye to that list.

B. Thenet

February 5th, 2012
8:00 pm

You have to question the intelligence of any family that would put their children’s education and well being in the hands of Nick Saban. The man has no moral compass, his words and the words of his staff mean nothing.

kb

February 5th, 2012
8:02 pm

01 hawk,” 3, stars aren’t recruited that much by Bama,” pretty ignorant statement 9 of this years recruits are 3 star that signed, doesn’t count the ones offered that didn’t sign.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
8:06 pm

Sad! Georgia a once proud program now has to bash another program! Don’t know why? Maybe because Alabama outworks all other coaching staffs!

George

February 5th, 2012
8:09 pm

There is no scandal, just GA and Tech and their mafia/media being pissy about not keeping their talent in-state. What’s going to happen when Bama pull Robert Nkemdiche. Oh yeah, GA and their fans are going to continue to make factless accusations that will make them look bad. Tough crap GA.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:11 pm

Saban does not care about kids! Alabama fans do not care about kids!
All of them scum!

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
8:13 pm

@Football Rules – and just how many Division iii games did you attend this year. Either you are misinformed a just a plain dumba@@!!!!

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:13 pm

Next year on signing day all CFB fans wear gray shirts in honor of the kids Saban and Alabama screw over!

SemperGrunt

February 5th, 2012
8:14 pm

Another attempt by the AJC to tear down Bama. For the ones that think Saban should honor the kid’s commitment, well the commitment is non-binding. Do you think it is fair to a school that has a kid commited to them and then flips his commitment to another school on the last day? I don’t see anyone mentioning that. At GT, Paul Johnson will pull your scholarship if a kid visits another school after committing. Is this ok? These kids have an oportinity of a life to visit other campuses that they would not normally have the chance to visit. Let the kids visit where ever they want, it is only a max of 5 visits.

What people need to realize is that college football is a business and Saban is the best CEO out there. UGA fans are kidding themselves saying that they wouldn’t want him as a coach. Bama is in the business of winning national championships while UGA is in the business of making sure they pat their coach on the back for going to church.

And if you don’t know by now, recruiting is a dirty business. Get over it.

Semper Fi!

Nothing to see here

February 5th, 2012
8:14 pm

Nothing new or unusual here. UGA and Richt do the same thing. Richt is even banned from some HS campuses in Georgia over his oversigning and greyshirting over the past several years.

North Campus Trash

February 5th, 2012
8:15 pm

Michael, you should be embarrassed by this piece. When did the AJC change into the Nancy Grace show?

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
8:15 pm

Dawg48 go cry to your mommy!

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 5th, 2012
8:15 pm

lake dog…you don’t know sheet about the rules for early entry. Bama has 8 this year and 1 counted against last year but you’re just the typical UGA fan with more mouth than trophies. Your little alter boy marky has more arrest than any school in college football other than UF. Have you beat your girlfriend today? What about stealing from the other UGA players! LOL. You can’t make this tuff up you know. Mike thinks he can help the preacher man with the parents of top players in jawjaw but he’s only wasting space and ink. So you leg humpers run that mouth and I must admit other than auburn you do it better than anybody and you have a lot of experience doing it as well. Keep signing the best friends of good players or walk-ons while Bama signs the best!!!!! Don’t even mention character and UGA together for your program has more thugs than auburn and that is a lot!

JB

February 5th, 2012
8:15 pm

@Lake Dawg: I forgot about ole Pat. He could drink the bourbon too. You’re right about the state of Alabama, Bear was over there, he could have shot somebody between the eyes on national tv and could have gotten away with it.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:17 pm

Dawg 48, BAMA scum no!! Three NC’s since the pups last one, yes!!!!

JB

February 5th, 2012
8:19 pm

Hey George. There is far too much talent in Georgia for UGA and Tech to get em all. The same cannot be said for that backwardass state of Alerbammer.

steverino

February 5th, 2012
8:19 pm

On the plus side, Nick Saban is a highly motivated, results oriented, no nonsense football coach. On the minus side, he is an oily, unctuous job whore who has no conscience. Chalk it up to the duality of mankind.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:19 pm

The Bear, at least my mom is not my sister! The question I wish someone would ask Saban is.
If Dalvin picked up a GT hat on signing day would he have still offered Darius Philon a gray shirt?

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:20 pm

Special K, yes scum!

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:22 pm

Dawg 48 the hint of jealousy is very obvious.

steverino

February 5th, 2012
8:23 pm

Sometimes, MNC’s just aren’t worth what you have to do to win them.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 5th, 2012
8:23 pm

Joke of the day…what is Ga Tech football……..Coach Bryant batch slapped his ash and away he went. You Tech fans need to start passing our applications for free housing with each football ticket to get some folks in the stands. It seem to work well with the housing. Those were some of those elite Atlanta folks we saw on TV…Right…Alabama’s behind will make you folks a good Sunday face. Amen and pass the offerring play for Rev Richt and his football recruits!!!! Now there is a damn hypocrite! Suck it Jawjaw.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:23 pm

I’m not jealous, just calling it like it is. It will catch up with Saban soon.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:25 pm

Bama fans don’t want to talk about how Fla St picked Alabama clean.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
8:27 pm

You know what is sad? I live in Georgia and pull for the Dogs when they don’t play Bama! if you Dog fans would pull your heads out of the sand and listen to some outside views you might wake up!
Bash Alabama Crimson Tide all you want we have 14 National Titles 2 out of 3 last 3 years. Belly ache. Make up all the excuses you can:
1. Saban is Satan
2. Over signing
3. I am a lifelong UGA fan happy with 10 wins against who?
4. Blah…..Blah

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:31 pm

Dawg 48 you are correct on FSU and I make no excuses. They picked our state for two this year. Not sure that compares to the eight we got from GA.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:32 pm

A much as I hate the dawgs and as much as I wish Tomlinson had chosen Tech, it would have far more sense for him to choose UGA over Bama. The academics at UGA are FAR BETTER than those at Bama, and CMR is so far above Satan in class that it is laughable. For once, I think this is one thing that Tech and UGA fans agree on—-Satan Saban is a POS!!!!

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:33 pm

Yes supersize but he is our POS!!!!!!!!

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:33 pm

Special K, look at how many kids from Georgia go to D1 schools! 8 is not a whole lot.
But, if that makes you feelgood then keep on bragging about it.

SemperGrunt

February 5th, 2012
8:34 pm

Dawg48. FSU picked Bama clean? Really? They got Winston, Shanks, and Casher. Bama got Chris Black, Amari Cooper, and Eddie Williams from the state of Florida. Oh yeah, FSU offered all of them. They really cleaned Bama out didn’t they?
BTW, two weeks before signing day, Philon was told that he might have to greyshirt because of the numbers getting tight. So if Korren Kirven would have went to VT, then Philon would not have to greyshirt to answer your question.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:34 pm

Special K, win or lose, you are welcome to him. Winning is not worth having a cheat like him for a coach.

JB

February 5th, 2012
8:35 pm

If Obama ever needs another press secretary some of you bammer fans would do nicely. The spin is hilarious!

Signing Day

February 5th, 2012
8:35 pm

what would help is have a sign day around Dec 15th (one day only) and another in Feb. That would help teams see what they have after the Dec date and what they need. Also high games are over so everyone know if a kid is hurt-injured etc. Then if a kid wants to show boat and wait till Feb, he might not be needed by that team ( might bring an end to the pick a hot trick)

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:35 pm

You are the one who brought up FSU raiding BAMA for prospects, not me. Just stating the “FACTS”.

SEC fan

February 5th, 2012
8:35 pm

Saban will never permit an AJC interview. He is a cowardly little runt that owns the media in the ‘trailer state’ and he simply doesn’t have to put up with media from elsewhere. He failed miserably in the NFL so will stay in the UA job until he retires. For the most part BAMA fans put winning way above honesty and integrity so Saban can continue to lie to kids and the locals will just kiss is feet and make excuses for his gutless treatment of those without the where with all to hurt him.

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
8:36 pm

Here is the Bad news for you Leg Humpers..It is getting no better in Athens. No discipline, bottom tier game day coaching, Mike bobo..Did I say Mike bobo, Owned by UF, Will get thumped but any top ter team, Lose to MSU..my god, MSU a team BAMA dominated and knocked out their QBs..They were playing a WR at QB at games end. You Leg Humpers better shape up or Vandy will soon own you.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:38 pm

Hey folks, I am not making excuses for Saban. Go look at my posts. Have never defended him. I just find it rather funny how you pup fans tend to think it’s all well and good in Athens. There is plenty of crap in all programs. BAMA does not have a corner on the market. Believe me.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:38 pm

If a kid “commits” to a school, and that school accepts that commitment, then both the kid and the school should honor it no matter what. Kids are kids, and they don’t always stand by their word, thus releasing the school from any obligation. But a school is supposedly represented by adults, and those adults should behave in an adult manner, and that doesn’t mean aborting their commitment or gray-shirting a kid who has been led to believe all along that the school wants him.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:40 pm

SS, got some recruiting news for you. Ga hag a OT at JR day last week Delando Crooks. His top 2 schools are UGA and Bama.Education will be a big factor in Crooks’ decision, as he plans to major in Engineering. He did talk to UGA about what they offered in Engineering. Any way Tech needs to look into this kid possible 4 or 5 star next year.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:41 pm

Special K, the difference is that CMR does things with honor and integrity; if the kids turn out to be bums that’s not his fault. Damn, I can’t believe as a Tech fan I am actually standing up for Richt. LOL

Dumb Georgia boys!

February 5th, 2012
8:42 pm

That’s what it comes down too. These kids just want to go there and and join a winner instead of staying home and building up the home team into a winner. This guy has proven he doesn’t care about you. If you get hurt he dumps you, but they still are coming to him. So Dumb Georgia boys.
Stay home and build up the in state schools. Or commit get hurt and get dropped.

There is no way i would want to go play for this guy. but he has ESPN in his pocket, they gave him a rematch even though someone else should have gotten a shot. No one mentioned this story on ESPN either.

so run to saban dumb kids run!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:42 pm

48, why the hell would he be looking at either UGA OR Bama for engineering? Maybe he’s not as bright as you might think/

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:43 pm

@ Dumb, the HS coaches in Georgia should unite and start telling their players the truth about Bama. That might make some of them at least think before they even consider the Tide

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:44 pm

It’s not just Georgia fans talking about Saban. Check out more sights from other schools, the wall street journal, sports illustrated , many more.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:44 pm

I think Richt is a great guy. You’ve never heard me trash him. I have met him in several situations. I am saying that if you think that UGA does not have issues with it’s team, pull your head out of the sand. Every school is a city. In that city you have good people and bad people. Good things and bad things. So to say BAMA has the corner on bad, pull your head out of the sand my friend.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:46 pm

Special K, it sure looks like Bama has the corner on unethical behavior by their coaches, Saban in particular

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:47 pm

SS, don’t know, in the article he said he talked to engineering ” specialist” at UGA.
But when I saw that I’m thinking if education plays a big of a roll in his decision as it says it does and he has his major picked out he will end up at Tech.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:48 pm

What do all the Auburn fans in Alabama have to say about this? Surely Auburn gets good coverage by the media in that part of the state at least. The entire state and its media can’t possibly be sold on or proud of the way Saban does things.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
8:48 pm

Go back and read the whole article. See what Dalvin had to say ok.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:49 pm

48, I hope somebody at Tech knows about him and is looking into it.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:50 pm

SS, I want tell anyone on Kens blog your sticking up for UGA. Lol

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
8:50 pm

@Dawg48 We don’t care you must since you and a very small portion of Dog nation are on here. Envy is a tough pill to take!
Roll Tide Oh yea Blackout anyone?

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:50 pm

Special K, at this point, I’m not sure what Dalvin had to say means a whole lot. If he had chosen Bama way back whenever, the by stringing others along and not just coming out and telling them of his decision, then he proved to not have much character, and all his claims about putting academics first are a total joke.

JB

February 5th, 2012
8:51 pm

FYI: UGA will soon be offering civil, mechanical, and electrical engineering degrees.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:51 pm

48, you tell them, and you’re a dead man. LOL

Bamafan

February 5th, 2012
8:52 pm

One question:….if it’s so bad playing for Nick…why are players embarassing themselves on national TV begging for him to sign them….

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
8:53 pm

Not only are you Leg Humpers a bunch of Wannabees you act like wannabees. You will end of with nothing. What a joke. cant wait to beat that leg humper a@@ some more. Too bad you and your AD and Pres are too skeered to play real teams.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:53 pm

Go to a closed practice at Bama. The only people that get to view a closed practice at Bama is the police dept. Saban had it set up that way from day 1. That’s why you don’t here about kids getting in trouble at Bama. If you don’t believe me go check it out your self.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:53 pm

Bamafan, because they are kids who don’t understand what a POS Saban is as a man.

JB

February 5th, 2012
8:55 pm

@Bamafan: If you’re a great player it’s great to play for Saban. If you’re a mrginal player… not so much. All these guys initially think they’re great players.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:56 pm

JB, it will be years before the UGA engineering programs amount to anything at all. The only reason a kid would choose engineering at UGA is because he can’t get into a REAL engineering school. Remember too, that even though the Regents (non-unanimously) approved it, there are people in the Georgia legislature (INCLUDING UGA grads) who have said they will not allocate any funds for it.

Athens Tider

February 5th, 2012
8:57 pm

I don’t have time to read every entry on this blog, so if someone has already brought this up, I apologize. But if he knew weeks before (as indicated in this column) that he would have to grayshirt at Alabama and he didn’t want to grayshirt, why did he put on the Alabama hat at the signing ceremony and then act like he had just found out? Also, why didn’t he take other visits and decommit if he was so dead set against grayshirting. I suspect he knew but was embarrassed to tell anyone else. If that’s the case, then the theatrics at the signing ceremony is all on him.

NCDawg

February 5th, 2012
8:57 pm

What are you Bama fans smoking? It must be hashish. Your consciences are obliterated! So what does that have to do with smoking hashish? The word assassin comes from it. Assassins would get baked on hash to kill their consciences so they could kill without remorse. That is exactly what you Bama fans that are not outraged by this crap have done to yourselves. I bet some of you go to church on Sunday mornings and thank God for Nick Saban and his “winning is the only thing” attitude. If you can’t see what is wrong with this picture you are hopeless.

I’d call for Mark Richt’s firing if he were to do something like that. These aren’t isolated incidents. Saban does this every year. Others do it too and it doesn’t make it any better. The spotlight is on Bama because they are National Champs and they just got crowned with the supposedly best recruiting class as well. Just like you can break giant runs if your o-line holds… you will have great recruiting classes if you cheat and gray shirting is cheating. The rules don’t quite say so yet but it is coming.

Don’t come on here crying when the roof caves in…

Despicable behavior… disgusting

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
8:59 pm

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
8:25 pm

Bama fans don’t want to talk about how Fla St picked Alabama clean.

MOBILE, Alabama – Florida State and Alabama combined to grab the state’s top six players Wednesday, but five other schools signed at least one member of the Press-Register’s Elite 18.
Alabama signed four of the top six players, led by No. 2 T.J. Yeldon, the Daphne running back who has already enrolled in Tuscaloosa. In all, the Crimson Tide added six Elite 18 members. That does not include Vigor defensive lineman Darius Philon, who had committed to Alabama, then reportedly got a grayshirt offer from the Crimson Tide and signed with Arkansas.

BAMA grabbed 4 out of top 6 and 6 of the top 18…………………….WOW, BAMA really got owned.

That is so FUNNY…………………………..1980 was so 32 years ago………………FUNNY !!!!!!!!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:59 pm

Athens Tider, Saban probably told him what MIGHT or even PROBABLY would happen, but left enough loose ends that he would think he still had a chance. It’s called covering all bases, and I’m sure Saban is a master at that.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:00 pm

@Dawg48 must be at a Super Bowl party getting tanked up on Georgia nostalgia posted in his “Dog Cave” Homemade betting line at the bash:
1. How many times I wish I was a Bama fan
2. Over and under on UGA winning NC
3. Over/Under UGA players going to jail
4. Rodney Garner allowed to screw UGA football program

JB

February 5th, 2012
9:02 pm

“Nostalgia” That’s a big word for a bammer fan. Must have your dictionary out.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:03 pm

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
8:48 pm

What do all the Auburn fans in Alabama have to say about this? Surely Auburn gets good coverage by the media in that part of the state at least. The entire state and its media can’t possibly be sold on or proud of the way Saban does things.

The COW COLLEGE in AUBARN are more jealous than you PUPPIES.

See……………………………………………AUBARN has always wanted to be like BAMA but they can not be with their measley 2 National Championships.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:04 pm

Does anybody know if the kid from Louisiana, who committed to Bama over his mother’s objections after Saban found his girlfriend a job ended up signing with Bama?

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:05 pm

01Hawk, are you dumb? Do you really think from my name that I am a “puppy”?

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:06 pm

No, wait, I shouldn’t have asked that question. If you are a Bama fan, then, yes, you are dumb.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:07 pm

The Bear, no I’m not at a super bowl party, no I don’t drink, never wished I was a bama fan, never looked at a over under on UGA and a NC, if a kid throws away a chance at the NFL or free education then he is a DA and does not deserve it. And I like Rodney Garner

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:07 pm

Will any of you PUPPIES be living to see a BCS Championship by your under achieving team ?

I do not even like to mention GT………………..They are not even in the picture. Sorry we had to take your best recruit, and we gave you JUSTIN THOMAS………………….Oh, I forgot, BAMA did not offer BEAU HANKINS.

BRICE RAMSEY is SABANS for the taking…………………………..1980 was so 32 years ago………..LOL

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:09 pm

Supersize that order, mutt …………………..If you knew anything you would see that COLLINS signed with BAMA

BAMA took 2 of the top 5 recruits from LSWHO.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:11 pm

I would like to see the Bama cave! Let me guess it a 4′ by 4′ room put over a hole dug in the ground with a half moon on the door?

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:11 pm

Keep drinking the Kool Aid!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:11 pm

Supersize that order, mutt …………………………………..So, you are a TECHIE FAN ?

That is just as bad……………………If you are………………………How is the crime over there ?

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:11 pm

01HAWK, that’s why I asked, bubba. I DIDN’T KNOW.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
9:12 pm

dean

February 5th, 2012
9:12 pm

I’ve said it many times before, but you never saw Bama fans with anything to say 5 years ago. Alot of chest thumping because they have a great coach. Not so long ago Auburn was rubbing the “one for the thumb” in your faces. It shall be again!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:12 pm

Supersize that order, mutt ……………………………TROLL

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:12 pm

01HAWK, what has the crime in Atlanta got to do with anything regarding football?

NCDawg

February 5th, 2012
9:12 pm

There is sickness here… blind fools that can not tell right from wrong. Winning does not justify this behavior people. There are some things that shouldn’t require a rule to stop it from being done. This is disgusting, despicable behavior.

But the hammer will fall and those of you too conscience deficient to own up to the wrong of this better not come on these blogs and cry about it.

Pitiful.

CrimsonCorner

February 5th, 2012
9:13 pm

Bama 2 BCS NC’s , UGA = ZERO and UGATech = ZERO!

JB

February 5th, 2012
9:14 pm

Signing day has become a complete circus. All these press conferences, stunts etc. are ridiculous. We have jock sniffers like 01hawk to blame for this.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:14 pm

sorry, 01HAWK, a troll by definition in the cyber world is someone who posts on a rival’s blog. And this is as much a Tech blog as it is a Bama or UGA blog, since it regards a kid who was recruited by all 3 schools. There are NO trolls on this page tonight

NCDawg

February 5th, 2012
9:14 pm

Test… my comments are being eaten.

Jim

February 5th, 2012
9:14 pm

Nothing but selfish kids. Neither kid will be ready to play next season and they were ask to grey shirt. Nothing wrong with that. No scholarship pulled! Spin it how you want, Saban is doing his job and doing what is best for the team. Like I said, selfish! Also, Philon still needs to have his surgery which he delayed. They want know how bad his knee is until he does. Nowhere near being ready. What a joke of an article and same goes for most of the comments.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:15 pm

dean are you helping your parents do laundry if not go help please.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:15 pm

Bama 2 scumbag coaches, UGA = ZERO, Tech = ZERO!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:17 pm

Jim then why is it that no other schools greyshirt players who are not ready to play the following year and give that scholarship to somebody else? Bama makes up their own rules and then plays by those rules

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:17 pm

Dean is correct!

Special K

February 5th, 2012
9:18 pm

ss I am sure other schools do the same thing. Can’t believe BAMA is the “Only” one. Get real.

dean

February 5th, 2012
9:19 pm

After watching the video above though I wonder why we have allowed signing day to turn into this circus. Did this kid even look at other schools. The story said he never even visited Arkansas. I think these kids get so caught up in wanting to be in the moment and have all that attention that they don’t really thing about what they are doing. Honestly, just set up a NFL minor league for these kids. How many of these kids would be admitted to the school on academic merit if there was no football team? I don’t say that to be mean but very few are truly after an education. I think the standard NFL career is about 3 1/2 years. That’s a fact that should be taught by every high school coach.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:19 pm

Special K, name me one who you KNOW does the same thing. There may indeed be others, but Bama is definitely the only one I have heard about.

Michael

February 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

Please…write about something else already. I’m tired of reading about how these coaches are treating these recruits so badly. I mean I didn’t read anything about how Josh Dawson treating Vandy so badly when he flipped to UGA so late in the process. It goes both ways. Recruiting is brutal. End of story. Now let’s move on to something else.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

@ dean, right again

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

All I have to say is ROLL TIDE baby

dean

February 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

Bear, tell me that my first comment is incorrect!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

dean ……………………………Don’t you UGA fans think you have a great coach also ?

What you fail to say was that BAMA has won 3 Championships since UGA won in 1980. And we will win another very soon.

BAMA has 14………………………How many does UGA have ?

stopcryingbitches

February 5th, 2012
9:21 pm

I guess all of u losers are sitting there when Saban is talking to the kids about their scholarships. Saban is a good Christian man also. He focuses on coaching other that his hair style and sun glasses like your pretty boy Richt. Plus, he never underachieves. So Boo Hoo and Keep Rolling Tide.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:21 pm

@ Michael, that’s what this blog is all about to begin with. If that’s not what you want to talk about, then find another blog

CrimsonCorner

February 5th, 2012
9:22 pm

Georgia sucks as does Ga Tech.

Pat

February 5th, 2012
9:22 pm

Good grief. “Saban is the devil”? What an ignorant and idiotic comment. Perhaps you should get all of the facts before casting judgment. THE SCHOLARSHIPS WERE NOT PULLED. The young men, who were injured, and set to redshirt anyway, were asked to delay their enrollment at Alabama by FOUR MONTHS. That is all. In fact, in terms of eligibility, it is better for a player with an injury, to delay enrollment if he can whilst he is rehabbing. Saban has never, never, not once, backed out on the promise of a greyshirt.

You Georgia fans are pathetic and butthurt from that idiotic “blackout” stunt you attempted in 2008 when Alabama removed your manhood. Get your facts right before you start spewing your garbage.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:22 pm

@stopcrying……, all I can say to that is BS!!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:23 pm

Supersize that order, mutt ……………………..You are correct…………………BAMA makes the rules……………From Bear Bryant to Nick Saban. Both were better coaches than DOOLEY and CMR.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:23 pm

Thanks Dean! You are in the UGA Hall of somthing.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
9:23 pm

If you got the time, go look it up for me. Keep telling yourself that BAMA is the “Only” team that cheats. If it makes you feel good. We’ll keep winning MNC’s and you’ll keep making excuses.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:23 pm

If a cud takes a grey shirt he is not in his right mind. Why wait if he has offers from a major D1school. Saban got what he wanted, he had the Taylor and philon in his side pocket. When Dalvin and the other RB committed he offered them a gray shirt so they would go away. Spurrier did the same thing to 3 kids last year, but he did not offer the gray shirts. Saban did not want the “bad publicity ” Spurrier did. At least Spurrier had the balls to be honest and say thanks but no thanks.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:24 pm

A greyshirt means loss of scholarship money for tuition, so in fact the scholarships were pulled. Only active players and redshirts receive money for tuition, and if others do, then that is an NCAA violation.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:26 pm

Special K, you are the one who disputed what I said. Therefore, you are the one who needs to prove his argument. The entire nation respects Bama’s accomplishments on the field, but the entire nation also knows the coaches engage in less than ethical behavior to get there.

still a dawg fan

February 5th, 2012
9:28 pm

Hey The Bear,

Alabama coaches don’t outwork the other coaching staffs they only OUT SIGN the other coaching staffs

dean

February 5th, 2012
9:28 pm

Hawk, I’ll be the first to say that I actually like Saban. I like his style of football and that he brought defense back after Spurrrier got the offensive ball rolling. I don’t agree with everything he does but damn, I don’t agree with a lot of stuff. What I have a problem with is all the crap we have to see from you guys becuase you are on a roll now with winning. You know what the Shula and Francione, and the fat guy before was like. Yeah, I’m a UGA fan all the way and will pull for them win or lose. I know that our day will come and I believe that Richt will bring it for us. Enjoy your run but keep your mouths shut unless you want to run it in a Bama newspaper. You only come over here to gloat becuase your team is on top right now. Like I said, your fans had nothing to say in this paper 5 years ago. Florida fans and Tech fans as well as Auburn fans have always been represented in these blogs. You guys were nonesistent before now over here so you just don’t garner the respect you think you get just because Bama is on top of the NCAA football world right now. I never had a problem with Bama untill this year. You make Florida fans seem mature, and that’s saying alot!

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:28 pm

Wow, 01Hawk must be the Dumbest person alive! How many times does SuperSize have to say he us not a Georgia fan?

Rick James

February 5th, 2012
9:29 pm

@Supersize that order, mutt

Does anybody know if the kid from Louisiana, who committed to Bama over his mother’s objections after Saban found his girlfriend a job ended up signing with Bama?
———————————————————————————————–
He did sign with Alabama over LSU but his mother stated on signing day that she will not wear Alabama colors when she goes to his games.I think she has that instinct for Saban that parents get when kids bring friends home that are no good for them..

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:30 pm

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

@ Rick James, thanks, and good for his mom

wag

February 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

Mark Richt and Paul Johnson have class. If my son were being recruited, I would rather my son go where the coaches are good men and good football minds. Basically, Alabama would not be welcome in my living room unless Saban retired.

Special K

February 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

Yes we are dumb and our coaches cheat and are POS as ss says. I am so glad you have a better team and fans to deal with. You keep yours and I will take mine. It has already been said on this forum about Spurrier doing it and I will also tell you that Houston Nutt was doing it at Ole Miss and Ark. Nuff said about that.

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:33 pm

Rick James, she is mad because the check Saban gave his girlfriend was bigger than the check she got from Les Miles.

Michael

February 5th, 2012
9:33 pm

Please…write about something else already. I’m tired of reading about how these coaches are treating these recruits so unfairly by not honoring a verbal commitment. I mean I didn’t see anything on how Josh Dawson treated Vandy unfairly when he flipped to UGA so late in the process. Recruiting is brutal but it goes both ways. End of story. Not let’s move on to something else.

guy

February 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

With Saban and Alabama, the pride hs already come before the fall!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

Michael, you already posted that word for word. So I will say again, if you don’t like the topic of this blog, then go someplace else.

stopcryingbitches

February 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

Hey dean. You suck! Ga sucks. Bama rules! Maybe ya’ll can give a 50yr old Herschel another scholarship. Thats the only reason ya’ll won it in 1980…32yrs ago. Damn, thats a looooooong time. Its only been 27 days or so since our last National Championship. Keep trying, we will keep winning. If Saban was your coach and losing, and Richt was Bamas coach winning, you would say the same thing about Richt. Stop hating…u bunch of losers. Roll Tide!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

@ guy, we can only hope

Special K

February 5th, 2012
9:37 pm

What I have seen on here is other fans bashing BAMA. You’ve never, ever seen me on here trashing other teams. I’m just on here to defend mine because you folks can’t seem to get the picture. I pull for GA when they are not playing BAMA. I’ve never boasted on here. I just see some fans on here that want to focus on the other team when they have as many issues as anyone.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:38 pm

dean ……………………..You are quite wrong in that BAMA is the elite of the SEC in football and always has been and always will be.

Florida did not win squat until Spurrier came.

LSWHO did not win SQUAT til SABAN came.

UGA is an after thought since 1980

Bama is the 5 or 6th winningest program in the country. BAMA has been winning for a long time. The Parents love Nick SABAN.

stopcryingbitches

February 5th, 2012
9:39 pm

Hey wag. If ur son is anything like u, he wont have enough class to go to Bama. Go to Loserville, Bama is for winners only…and we r filled up with them!

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:39 pm

Taylor said Saban was going to get him a job, Saban gave Collins girlfriend a job. Hey Obama get the NCAA to lift the number of kids Alabama can sign and unemployment will go away by next years signing day!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:40 pm

Special K, the topic of the blog is the “questionable” recruiting of Tomlinson, so that alone opens up the discussion to criticism of Bama and Saban. And yes, ALL teams have issues, but currently, the only team with questionable recruiting policies is Bama.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:42 pm

@ stopcrying….., just because you have some winners does not mean you have class. And I venture to say that wag’s parents have far more class than you or anybody on the Bama coaching staff.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:42 pm

@ 48, you’re on a roll tonight. LOL

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
9:43 pm

Paul in NH wrote :

Although I am a critic of Saban in the Taylor case, the headline to this blog does not reflect the content – Tomlinson is not even quoted in the post.
If the AJC writers are going to delete posts for any reason other than profanity, racism or attacking high school players then there is no point in treating the AJC blogs as a public forum.

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Yes Paul … I think you have went clearly on the record as not being Saban fan on the topic of Taylor . Which makes the simple attempt at intellectual honesty more meaningful . I am just glad Tide fans weren’t the only one that noticed the headline and very first sentences were 180 degrees apart from each other :-)

As for the other … I didn’t check this until now but it would be interesting to know what post there were that AJC found worth deleting considering how much garbage they leave up .

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:44 pm

SS, Roll Damn 48! Lol

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:46 pm

48, you’re too much fun to be a damn dwag. LOL

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:46 pm

Isaiah Crowells Mom wanted him to go to BAMA………………..She thought CMR and his staff was the DEVIL………………………….WOW………………CMR is the DEVIL…………….Imagine that !!!!!!!!!!! That scolly was only given to HARROW to entice CROWELL………………………..How shady is that…………………….A 2 for 1.

1. Isaiah Crowell’s mother said she’s thrilled about their family friend Quintavious Harrow receiving a scholarship offer from Georgia, but not if it comes with any attachments to her son.

“Well, for Quintavious it’s wonderful,” Deborah Crowell told me Monday. “But I don’t want them to do it to get Isaiah there. I’m not selling my son’s soul to the devil. This is his decision. If they want to give Quintavious a scholarship, that’s fine. But that can’t have anything to do with Isaiah. He has too much pressure on him as it is and I’m going to lay that on the line with them. We’ll discuss that while we’re up there.”

Crowell, No. 1 on the AJC Fab 50 list, will be taking his official visit to Georgia this weekend along with his mother and the rest of his family. So will Harrow, better known as “Cootie” to family and friends. The 5-11, 190-pound linebacker/safety from Carver-Columbus — who is Crowell’s best friend — received a scholarship offer from the Bulldogs last week, his first from any school.

The Harrows and the Crowells, who have known each other since their kids were in kindergarten, just got back from a trip to Tuscaloosa and the University of Alabama this past weekend. They left very impressed with coach Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide.

“It was wonderful,” said Mrs. Crowell, who will also accompany her son and his final visit to Auburn on Jan. 28. “They kept us busy, but we had fun. They had everything planned out and stuck by it all weekend. My husband and I had a wonderful time and Isaiah did, too.”

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:47 pm

Well, the super bowl is down to what will probably be one frantic finish. Gonna be interesting

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:49 pm

01Hawk, no one pays you any attention! You can go away now!

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:50 pm

48, he was bashing the crime around the Tech campus. What do you want to bet that he actually lives in Atlanta?

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:52 pm

Good night PUPPIES, TECHSTERS……………….Get back to you SEC EAST Championship memories while I look back at 1992, 2009, and 2011.

Well………………………Techsters you did win one in 1990 with Bobby Ross. Oh, that was so 22 years ago.

My ROLL TIDE BUDDIES…………………………..It is so GREAT to be a BAMA fan.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:52 pm

Love it! Every post about Bama just goes crazy. UGA posts dead. Winning is nice, being nice isn’t winning.
ROLL TIDE

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:52 pm

Yea, under the bridge on Howell Mill Rd at Chatahooche Ave.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
9:53 pm

WOW !!!!! What a finish to a ball game !!!!!

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
9:53 pm

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:49 pm

01Hawk, no one pays you any attention! You can go away now!

Why do you keep responding ? …………………You are FUNNY !!!!!!!!!

Dawg48

February 5th, 2012
9:57 pm

SS, talk with you later.

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
9:57 pm

Yep even in Ga Bama fans defend the Tide ,even on the AJC!
ROLL TIDE

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
9:57 pm

Love the last line on this article about the whining Meyer set off in the Big 10

“And let’s be honest, publicly airing recruiting grievances against Meyer and his staff is JUST ANOTHER FORM OF NEGATIVE RECRUITING and IT COMES ACROSS AS PETTY AND BITTER BECAUSE OF LOST RECRUITS.” LOL … I’ll just add ditto X two for the whiners about Coach Saban

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/urban-meyer-recruting-tactics-draw-ire-fellow-big-184857946.html

Even funnier is the fact that you have Buckeye defenders now defending themselves against the same type of whiney a** attacks they have launched themselves against the SEC . Guess it makes a difference if you have a coach that actually gets off their rear end and goes out to work … every day … every hour … every minute … until the job is done . Now suddenly they are all for it LOL ;-)

“Urban Meyer sells success, not snake oil, to recruits”

http://www.bucyrustelegraphforum.com/article/20120203/SPORTS/202030318/Urban-Meyer-sells-success-not-snake-oil-recruits

Two thumbs UP for the Wisconsin AD who had obviously had to tell his whiney replacement as the head coach to STFU ( Wisc current head coach first came flat out out whining that Meyer “cheated” … thyen had to backtrack and admit … well … he didn’t ;-) )

“Asking a committed recruit if he would be interested in signing with a different school is not a violation of NCAA rules.

Some coaches had suggested there is an unwritten rule within the Big Ten that prevents such activity. But Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez — the Badgers’ former coach — said Friday that there’s no such pact.

“Recruiting is recruiting until they sign,” Alvarez said. “If we had somebody who changed their mind and came to us, that’s OK. Urban (Meyer) was very aggressive, but there is no pact within the conference not to continue to recruit. It’s open season until they sign.”

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7537382/urban-meyer-ohio-state-buckeyes-recruiting-staff-full-compliance

Supersize that order, mutt

February 5th, 2012
10:02 pm

48, take care. I’m outta here too

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
10:02 pm

Dawg48 the tribe has spoken, leave you have been voted out of the SEC!

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
10:08 pm

As far as MC’s request for an interview with Saban for “his version of events” … HOLD THAT BREATH TILL THE CALL COMES IN . You grant request to real journalist with at least a thimble full of journalistic integrity .

Otherwise what you get is another AJC hit piece . It would be like me being simple minded enough to let a Dawg48 interview me over the phone … then letting HIM type up HIS version of everything I said . Everyone would recognize that as a joke … but the AJC apparently still thinks it is “journalism” :-)

Dooley

February 5th, 2012
10:10 pm

Nick Saban is a liar. You get a kid to commit, tell him he has a scholarship then pull it. The man has no integrity. He is a liar and doesnt practice what he preaches.

Roll Tide 48

February 5th, 2012
10:12 pm

Funny how this is only a story in the AJC and no where else in the nation. But I guess when you haven’t had the opportunity to write about a local championship team in a while you have to do what you can to write about another championship team. Roll Tide!! 14 and counting! (or 9). Either way, it is more than Georgia!!!!!!

Pete

February 5th, 2012
10:12 pm

When it comes down to it, football is a game. Nick Saban and Alabama will do whatever it takes to win and to some that’s all that matters. In a way I feel sorry for you, but mostly I just feel disgust toward you. Nick Saban is a piece of trash, it’s that simple.

CC

February 5th, 2012
10:14 pm

SABAN IS A CROOK!!

The Bear

February 5th, 2012
10:14 pm

THe Bear is out on this sorry post…………ROLL TIDE

BigDaddyDawg

February 5th, 2012
10:20 pm

“Saban is a Christian too” lol! A Christian don’t take God’s name in vain. He is a hellion. A Christian also wouildn’t do kids the way he does. Bama fans have sold their soul to win Championships. I’d rather lose and have integrity. Heck, half of yall are inbred anyway. So I guess he fits yall just fine. Going to hell in a handbasket.

wreckmaniac

February 5th, 2012
10:20 pm

Based on this information, why did Tech or UGA think they had a chance at this kid ? Or why did the media think Tech or UGA had a chance ?

Your stupid

February 5th, 2012
10:21 pm

Roll Tide 48
February 5th, 2012
10:12 pm

Funny how this is only a story in the AJC and no where else in the nation. But I guess when you haven’t had the opportunity to write about a local championship team in a while you have to do what you can to write about another championship team. Roll Tide!! 14 and counting! (or 9). Either way, it is more than Georgia!!!!!!

I guess you did not READ the “story” it had two other links to other ” places in the “nation” that is reporting it. If you want more check out 247sports, wall street journal, sports illustrated.

superstar

February 5th, 2012
10:22 pm

Michael, All your bad mouthing Bama will not cause Foster and Robert not to be in the best class ever for them in 2013.

realitycheck

February 5th, 2012
10:25 pm

Saban is the smart calculating and shrewd CEO that most every CFB team wants…….The UGA’s of the world wish they had a Saban regardless of what the posters say. Most CEO’s stay behind the scenes and we never see or hear from them. While Richt is on some mission trip, Saban is in his office at 3:30 am trying to get a lead on a recruit. I have absolutely nothing against mission trips, but Richt has lost sight of the fact that he was hired to win football games first and foremost. Saban has not lost that same sight and that is the root of the anger that UGA fans have towards Saban. Until UGA gets a coach that will put in the effort and hours that Saban does, they won’t sniff a NC!

Saban Never Sleeps

February 5th, 2012
10:30 pm

Newsflash to you Leg humpers..It only going to get worse for you sorry a@@es. Bama has locked up the 2 best from georgia next year, UF is now reloaded and added a high quality OC, Mizzou will serve you crow on your SEC opening and Spurrier is still your Daddy. maybe next year you will have better luck in flipping a few but I doubt it. In a way it is shameful but you whiners are getting your just desserts. Roll tide Roll!!!

Blackoutanyone?

February 5th, 2012
10:31 pm

“Alabama was the most TRUTHFUL school in the recruiting process. They were the most HONEST. They didn’t pester him and they didn’t bug him. That was one big thing that Dalvin liked about Alabama – that they didn’t downgrade other programs. Coach Saban spoke very highly of other programs, especially Georgia and Georgia Tech.”

How it must have pained you to type those sentences. LOL Hate on MC… it wont help UGA’s cause with the 2013 instate kids. Bama has the top two locked up and you know it. The Bama nation takes great enjoyment from your envy. 2011 National Champions!!!!

2012 National Champions!!!!

tndawg

February 5th, 2012
10:31 pm

We are talking Alabama football here, right? Where does the word honesty come in? Winning is everything. How you play the game[recruiting] means nothing.
These young men are disposable.

just the truth

February 5th, 2012
10:33 pm

Coach Rozier, I think your bull, bull and bull! If Dalvin had a scholarship from Alabama from day 1 he should have accepted it then on the spot if that was his dream school. It was a numbers game and you know it. So going forward Dalvin should never be respected for keeping GT in the hunt till the last day. He was playing them if it wasn’t a numbers game. GT could have been looking if they knew they had been canceled out long ago. In todays society when kids claim they don’t want to be disrespected, this is exactly what happened. If I’m the last kid selected on the playground then obviously, they didn’t me you. It is up to the head coach to have guidance as a man concerning athletics and the proper way to handle things. I hope GT never recruits another player from your school if you don’t know the ethical way for kids to grow up and to get along in the future. Be upfront, YOUR THE ADULT!

Special K

February 5th, 2012
10:33 pm

Keep hating folks, keep hating.

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
10:37 pm

Anyone care to take a guess for the over/under on how many times the same jackholes who jump on every hit piece will be whining and crying ” why are all these Bama fans on here kicking “my” coach and team in the nuts ? ” on the next comment sections ?

AJC should create a new block in their sport section and an RSS feed so I can keep up easier … label it The Saban … ;-)

collegeballfan

February 5th, 2012
10:39 pm

I cannot see the difference between a player backing out of a committment and a coach backing out of a committment.

Sautee Dawg

February 5th, 2012
10:42 pm

Ofcourse Saban’s not gonna give you an interview. He don’t answer questions very well and he only wants the limelight when he’s given an opportunity to whine about something. Saban wasn’t on tv all season long until LSU whipped his ass, then he was on every sports channel out there whinning about getting beat and whinning for another chance.
Ask the folks up at Mich St how good Saban is at telling the truth. He didn’t just start telling it a few weeks ago.

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
10:43 pm

“What people need to realize is that college football is a business and Saban is the best CEO out there”
——
I agree that Saban is the best CEO in CFB. Where I disagree is that college football is a business. A real business is not tax exempt and pays their employees a market wage.

The University of Alabama has a proud mission statement for Intercollegiate Athletics. Do they live up to it?

“The mission of The University of Alabama Department of Intercollegiate Athletics is to actively support the University’s mission of teaching, research and service by providing an atmosphere in which student-athletes can succeed at championship levels within the spirit of fair play, sportsmanship and integrity.”

http://www.rolltide.com/datadump/fls_files/files/compliance/Coaches%20Meetings/07-08/Parents%20Guide%202007-08.pdf

Rick James

February 5th, 2012
10:43 pm

@Dawg48
Rick James, she is mad because the check Saban gave his girlfriend was bigger than the check she got from Les Miles
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In the interview she seems to have a genuine dislike for Saban like most people do outside of Alabama.

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
10:44 pm

Actually … I already covered you Sautee … @ 10:08

As far as MC’s request for an interview with Saban for “his version of events” … HOLD THAT BREATH TILL THE CALL COMES IN . You grant request to real journalist with at least a thimble full of journalistic integrity .

Otherwise what you get is another AJC hit piece . It would be like me being simple minded enough to let a Dawg48 interview me over the phone … then letting HIM type up HIS version of everything I said . Everyone would recognize that as a joke … but the AJC apparently still thinks it is “journalism”

globeflyer

February 5th, 2012
10:44 pm

I am so glad that the vast majority of UGA fans are not as seething with jealousy as some on these AJC blogs. I wish both the young men of this topic the best, but I’m betting that neither see the field for KY or Arky for another year. Both of them turned down scholarships they were offered IF they had agreed to start rehab and enroll in January, so don’t say they had their scholly “pulled”. Ask LSU/ Miles how it feels to have a solid “lock” player flip on you on signing day. CMR is a good guy, we all agree, but to rationalize how much better he would have handled it is borderline delusional. When UGA wins the SEC in the next five years, get back to me….

Kevin

February 5th, 2012
10:45 pm

Is that the same loser Hawk with the lame muscle cars he was bragging about. What a clown!!! Your a grown man, quit calling yourself Hawk. I told you before “your never going to have Maverick or Goose as your wingman so quit calling yourself these stupid call names”. Come on, your not a 12 year old kid!!!!!

Rick James

February 5th, 2012
10:46 pm

It seems strange to me that a school can wave a national championship banner after being unable to win the conference championship.Something is wrong there..

Blackoutanyone?

February 5th, 2012
10:52 pm

Rick James.. seems strange to me that UGA got their a** handed to them by USCe at home yet gets to wave a division banner because they played the weakest schedule in SEC history.

Jim

February 5th, 2012
10:55 pm

Dear AJC, it doesn’t matter how many hit pieces you write about Nick Saban or Alabama….UGA still will never be an elite team. Just go ahead and face it. Even with your best effort to smear the nations best coach, Alabama still ended up with the best recruiting class in America and your Bulldogs finished at 19. Wow, 19. Good luck and here’s hoping the Dawgs can beat someone other than Auburn in 2012.

Paul in NH

February 5th, 2012
10:56 pm

I tried to make a post about blog posts critical of the headline and the author disappearing and it hasn’t showed up. I guess I should have used the initials MC instead of typing his full name.
I am out of here – got to love petty censorship

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
10:58 pm

Gee … imagine that Allen …

RJ … Collins said in HIS interview that he didn’t know what the H*ll got into his mother BUT that she had know for TWO YEARS that he was going to Bama ( a time period that appears to PREdate his current girlfirend ) … that she even would wear Bama gear right up until TWO WEEKS before he was set to announce … then suddenly she went bat sh** crazy and flipped to screaming LSU 24/7 . Yeah … I wonder what happened . Must have been his “girlfriend” ;-)

Dawg Fan 02

February 5th, 2012
10:59 pm

Maybe one day you Bama fans will understand that integrity is more important that National Championships. This is exactly how the likes of Harvey Updikes emerge?? I feel sorry for the Philon kid because he actually went to play for the only Coach in the SEC with less integrity than Saban.

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:01 pm

Paul in NH … as you have already guessed the software catches certain words and sends the entire post to purgatory … that is why you have to be careful not only what you type but how you type it hehehe

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:03 pm

Maybe one day Dawg fans will realize there is more to integrity than running your mouth about having it while you around and watch kid after kid in your program hauled off to jail

Lamar

February 5th, 2012
11:03 pm

WOW!! WITH THE NEW RULE IN PLACE, OLD SATAN can not hide his DIRTY TACTICS from the media. OLD SATAN TREATS RECRUITING LIKE THE BASS MASTERS DO FISH. They put you in the live well until they catch a bigger fish AND THEN THEY THROW YOU BACK!! THERE IS NO QUESTION THIS WILL HURT ALABAMA IN THE FUTURE ON RECRUITING!! If you had a kid thgat was a 3 star player, would you let him commit to them? Now if you are a 5 star recruit, YOU HAVE IT MADE!! THE TRUE SATAN IS SHOWING UP WITH THE NEW RULES! HE IS A RUTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE!! It does not matter though, 1-2 off years AND THE ALABAMA FAN BASE WITH BE CALLING FOR HIS JOB!! It is coming real soon to!! GO DAWGS! At least we have a classy coach!!!!

Tech dropout

February 5th, 2012
11:04 pm

GA Tech is not Bama and never will be, thank God!

We Run the East

February 5th, 2012
11:08 pm

Awsome post, Blackoutanyone. Slapped the Dawgs down with their own argument. Good Stuff!

anon1

February 5th, 2012
11:09 pm

“Nick’s Boy”????????

Tech dropout

February 5th, 2012
11:10 pm

How can you be a fan of a college team that just chews em up and spits em out? Sure they win, but is it really a victory? I’m sure Bama fans justify this which makes matters even worse. Do people think for themselves anymore without their lame “fandom” getting in the way. If I was a Bama fan, the victories would still leave an empty feeling in my gut knowing I support a team that does this stuff.

I’m a Tech fan and they may not win the big game and have a hard time trying to beat their in state rival, but at least at the end of the day I don’t have to think about my coach/team screwing over kids just to win or get paid. Sickening really!

Don R.

February 5th, 2012
11:17 pm

Please keep up your attack– It appears 16 and 17 year old athletes are energized by them– and commit to Ala. By the way, I noticed that in your conclusion, you did not recount the statement that Bama was the most honest and never dissed another school— but to give you your due– at least you included it in your column.

ToeMeetsLeather

February 5th, 2012
11:21 pm

This kid said education was a top priority in the decision process, and then signs with AL.

Now “that’s funny, I don’t care who you are”.

realitycheck

February 5th, 2012
11:27 pm

UGA fans………Take a trip sometime to Tuscaloosa and check out their stadium and entire football facilities and you will instantly know why they are the standard in CFB. UGA’s football facilities aren’t in the same league as Bama’s and i’ve seen both of them. Comparing Bama and UGA in FB is like comparing Duke and GT in BB. It isn’t even close!

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:33 pm

LOL …. here is one young man from Georgia who knows what is up ;-)

” Dillon Lee, a linebacker from Buford, Ga., whose brother Dallas is an offensive lineman at Georgia, also relishes the opportunity ahead.

“I don’t think,” he said, “they’re recruiting anybody to come in and be mediocre.”

======================================================

Certainly not at Alabama.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
11:34 pm

When is that ESPN commercial coming out about GEORGIA FOOTBALL ?

ANSWER:……………….NEVER

ROLL TIDE

Bama Fan#2

February 5th, 2012
11:35 pm

Most journalism people hate Nick Saban with a passion.
Do you think he cares what a AJC writer or AL.com
thinks about him. Just like water off a ducks back!!
He could care less about want some hack writer has
to say. Saban is to busy about the process and winning
NC’S!! RTR

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:37 pm

Alphonse Taylor’s comment on how hard it will be to live up to the expectation of Tide fans going forward because of the recent success

“We expect to come in and work hard,” Taylor said. “We expect to go in compete and play harder and out-physical anyone. We expect to play Alabama football. It’s up to us to live up to those expectations.”

“We not only want to win one [national title], we want to be better than the class before us. They won two of three years. If anything, we want to win three [national titles]. We want to be remembered as the 2012 class that went in and won three national championships.”

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aSissyWroteThisArticle

February 5th, 2012
11:38 pm

What a piece of crap this is Michael Carvill. IF the teams in State were any good ….. IF the teams in this State could offer a player a chance at National Championships ….. IF a team in this State could offer a player a chance at national titles, THEY WOULD STAY IN STATE TO PLAY. You’re so tired of players leaving you join the I’ll make up crap to make others look bad team, evidently exactly what your article accuses GT of doing. Grow some balls and take it like a man – if your job was to hire assistants to work for you, you’d hire the best even if you had told someone else the job was there at first. I hate it for the two guys that really wanted to play at Bama but we learn early on in life we don’t always get what we want. Getting a free ride at a University to play for a top tier team is the same as if they weren’t football players and had to go out and get a job – the best will get hired over you. Either get better at what you do or shut up and take the next best thing but above all shut up you’re in the real world now. Your so called reporting sucks and if you feel the need to give us your opinions instead of reporting again for god sakes write an editorial.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
11:39 pm

Crimson Crush ……………………………SABAN already had his 2012 class in the house and is working on 2013, and UGA was scrambling offering a 2/3 star by the name of WILL ADAMS to come there.

UGA got stood up at the altar again when he went to that COW COLLEGE off of I-85.

What a joke. BAMA fans laugh at UGA fans and your team.

BAMA beat that team called MICHIGAN STATE 49-7.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 5th, 2012
11:41 pm

Saban’s a liar. Tomlinson is a liar. His coach is a liar. None of this matters. Quit whining and beat him on the field.

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
11:42 pm

WHINERS…………………………………..Beat us on the field. Talk is cheap. Get a coach.

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:43 pm

Well Duh … I can honestly say if more people left their two cents at what you had to say I would be fine with it .

Rick James

February 5th, 2012
11:47 pm

@Blackoutanyone?

Rick James.. seems strange to me that UGA got their a** handed to them by USCe at home yet gets to wave a division banner because they played the weakest schedule in SEC history-
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You mean the way LSU beat Alabama during the regular season yet Alabama backs into the game because of an Oklahoma St.loss? All South Carolina had to do was beat a bad Auburn team at home and they couldnt do it.No matter what happened against Arkansas they still win the east.Alabama is the national champion and my hat is off to them.But are they the beat team in the country? No.Best in the SEC? obviously not..

Crimson Crush

February 5th, 2012
11:48 pm

Having a blackout in Athens used to be trendy .

Now ?

Roll Tide

Rick James

February 5th, 2012
11:50 pm

@We Run the East

Another jock sniffing Tech fan hiding behind another team like always?

14_Nationals

February 5th, 2012
11:50 pm

Rick James – are you really going to try and sound as stupid as you are? Com On Man, clearly you know who the best team in the SEC was this year? Bama way outperformed LSPhew back in November and they made SURE there would be no doubt this time. You’re just mad, jealous and stupid

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
11:50 pm

Dillon Lee is seeeing why BAMA is the best conditioned team.

Cochran’s notorious Fourth Quarter Program is the Crimson Tide’s offseason conditioning program.

“They’re really hard,” linebacker Dillon Lee said of the daily workouts. “That’s probably been the hardest part, trying to keep up with the pace they demand here.”

What’s the hardest thing about them?

“When you cramp,” he said. “I’d never cramped in a weight room before, but it happens a lot here.”

01HAWK

February 5th, 2012
11:55 pm

I wonder will Dillon Lee last at BAMA. Practices, weight training maybe to hard. He can always go to UGA and eat doughnuts for breakfast with his brother. UGA seems to be gasping for breath when I saw them last against a terrible Michigan State team.

That kid that intercepted the two passes was from Crisp County and lives in Dry Branch Ga……………………………………Another CMR miss.

Alabumma Fan

February 6th, 2012
12:02 am

um a alabumma fan since the Bur was coach.

I’se born n raised in Hokes Bluff and I seen evur game Saban coached and he’s the greatest man ever walk God’s green earth since God hisself was on earth, and by God I mean Bur Bryant.

All you other fans jealous on account of Alabumma winning 36, no 37 national championships.

Tree Killer

February 6th, 2012
12:09 am

In the honor of all Alabama supporters in the world, our University President is on the record as saying ” we want to build a univesrity that our football team can be proud of!” As a bonafied RTR fan, I wll tell you this, if you get in my way I will kill your trees, just look down there at Auburn. Three of the most famous Bama Alumni, that became head coaches actually were caught cheating. Danny Ford, Charley Pell, and Jackie Sherrill. When asked why they thought they could do what they did, they all replied, “that is what they did for us!” Great program no doubt, great coaches no doubt, integrity and honor, left far by the wayside. RTR!!!!
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Tree Killer

February 6th, 2012
12:15 am

I’m going to follow the tropy through the victory tour of Alabama. First we are going to Wal Mart, then to Big Lots, next it will be on to the place where we all by our clothes, Ross, then we will head over to the Tastee Freeze in Hokes Bluff. After that tough day we are all going to head over to IHOP for a big mans dinner, and then off to bed at that luxury hotel Motel 6. Darn it is a good life in Alabama. Ain’t it great to go to the bathroom and bring the toilet paper out as your mascot.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
12:18 am

You ALWAYS know you got em pulling the last of their short hairs out when they flee from their own handles and hit super silly mode in desperation LOL ;-)

Alabumma Fan

February 6th, 2012
12:21 am

Yeah, it’s like the Bur said, “I’ll drink to that”.

RED DOG 77

February 6th, 2012
12:22 am

Sad thing is, Paul “Bear” Bryant was really no different from Nick Saban. Alabama has “sold” it’s soul for decades in search of the almighty football”win”……………I have dear friends from the state, have always enjoyed visiting, but this behavior makes me sick. I am almost 60 years old, a few years older than Nick, I believe peopl like “Nick” Saban are absolutely sick [mentally ill] to without any apparent remorse crush the dreams of young men who are guilty of only wanting to play football for the “Crimson Tide”……………Sick, Pathetic so-called adults who have never grown-up, and never will……………………And one last thing……….I am a BULLDOG 1000%, But I am old enough to remember when and why coach Bobby Dodd pulled his Yellow Jacket team from the SEC……….Bryant was pulling the same type of crap back then………….Nick Saban is no football coach, just a very acomplished con artist…………But his day will come, or sadder, those who follow him will be hurt by his actions…………..Caution Tide people……………RED

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
12:49 am

@RED DOG 77

Saban is 60 … you are NO years older than him … unless you have forgotten how old you are ;-)

Still … you have lived pretty much your entire life watching multiple head coaches at Bama do things neither of the programs in Georgia have ever had a prayer of achieving . It has finally dawned on you after all these decades that you never will see it . Mean while … yet another coach in Tuscaloosa is unleashing hell on college football .

In your twilight years you have grown very bitter bitter about that fact . It is one thing to be young and still think … someday things will be different . Someday we might matter . .

Then suddenly , someday is gone.

You wake up older and instead of a Coach Bryant … it is now a Coach Saban at the helm in Tuscaloosa . His domination is already shaping up to be every bit as complete as those in your childhood nightmares . His stranglehold on college football could easily outlast any years you have left . You know … it is over …. Someday will never come for you …

I can understand that and and you have my sincere and deepest sympathies .

Dekalb Fan

February 6th, 2012
12:50 am

Make the rule plain and simple. Twenty five scholarships every year mo matter what the situation . The deadline for your 25 is on National signing Day.

UPDYKE THIS

February 6th, 2012
12:52 am

Nick Satan, your day is coming..liar liar pants on fire, that statue will be coming down when truth is revealed about you..BTW, how’s the Miami Dolphin owner? You know the one you shook hands with and told him you were going to stay with Miami for a long time, that he had your word …couldn’t haul backside to the airport fast enough to catch a plane to Tuscaloosa..how do you live with yourself?

UPDYKE THIS

February 6th, 2012
12:55 am

you really think you run this country, well you don’t

Eye of Saban

February 6th, 2012
1:13 am

Up here in space
I’m looking down on you.
My lasers trace
Everything you do.
You think you’ve private lives
Think nothing of the kind.
There is no true escape
I’m watching all the time

I’m made of metal
My circuits gleam.
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean.

I’m elected electric spy
I’m protected electric eye.
Always in focus
You can’t feel my stare.
I zoom into you
You don’t know I’m there.

I take a pride in probing all your secret moves

My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove.

Electric eye in the sky
Feel my stare, always there

There’s nothing you can do about it.
Develop and expose
I feed upon your every thought

And so my power grows.

Protected

Detective

Electric eye.

brick

February 6th, 2012
1:27 am

Hawk, the last time Bama was on probation cheating, buying players that time and were the laughing stock of the SEC, Bama fans cried “all we want is a level playing field” all liars. What Bama fans want is a tilted field to their advantage, and you have that now by doing exactly what Saban and Bama did to those two kids this year. Saban whined its the SEC’s fault. Well guess what, its Saban and Bama’s fault the SEC limited teams to 25, not the other 11 teams in the conference Bama and Saban. Bama is not playing on a level field right now, anyone that knows their history knows anytime they are good, they are cheating, without it Bama is Tulane with different colors. Soon, the rules will change again, because what Bama and Saban are doing now is not illegal, but it is ethically and morally corrupt. But damn the rules, damn the kills, roll tide right? And then whine and complain about the new rules you are responsible for.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
1:48 am

@brick

The last time I bothered any of your run on paragraphs you were making stuff up and claiming some software glitch in the book system affected “only the football team” … then you added a fabricated dollar amount that supposedly EVERYONE on the football team got … to fill in on your lie . …

Of course your post was complete contrast to everything reported to and by the NCAA itself .

The NCAA investigation report said ( AFTER having the problem brought to their attention by Bama who found it in the first place ) that unauthorized material from the bookstore went out to 16 out of 17 sports from volleyball to track for amounts as low as . 68 freaking cents . They also added … in the report .. no one made a dime off of it . And only 22 players were found to have gotten even that much in over four years . Hardly “everyone” on “just the football team”

So you can see why Tide fans might be a bit hesitant to take the word of a liar about what it is Tide fans ever wanted … or want … especially when you can’t even figure out who the “Houston Nutt Rule” was named after ;-)

TigerForever

February 6th, 2012
2:08 am

Philon walked away from Auburn for Saban. He sold his soul to the devil, so to speak. If he had stuck with Auburn, Auburn would have stuck with him. Coach Chizik does not get recruits on board and then push them overboard when a higher ranked recruit comes along. That is Saban’s game.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
2:14 am

My mistake … the lowest reported “violation” wasn’t for .68 cents … it was for .35 cents …. for a booklet that a professor suggested but the University found out didn’t require to be handed out . Of course that was in 2006 “dollars” … .68 cents will be accurate sometime next year . And to think Jacket fans have the nerve to whine about getting busted for lying about a 300 dollar suit ;-)

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
2:25 am

“Philon walked away from Auburn for Saban”
=====================================
Then Philon should send Saban a “Thinking Of You … Best Wishes” card every day for the rest of his life .

The Cheeze Wiz is showing himself to be the craptastic coach everyone with any sense knew he was from the beginning . The AU roster payroll is now as empty as the accounts at Lowder’s robbed and collapsed bank . This time next year I expect I will be reading about how the AU coaching search is going … and having a good laugh at the Goobs from Tooters Corner ;-)

RTR!

February 6th, 2012
3:02 am

14 titles—going for 15 in 2012!! Nick Saban–best recruiter, best coach in America in 20 years!! Tide roll!!

Lawrence Ville

February 6th, 2012
3:23 am

Alabama has an advantage over the other SEC schools because of lower academic standards. Remember they took Forest Gump with an IQ of 16, and he even graduated.

legionaire

February 6th, 2012
3:31 am

As long as Saban keeps Leroy Jordan, Kenny Stabler, and other old influential players/alums happy he could care less about the rest of the SEC. He is just following in the steps of Bear Bryant who used to stock up players so other teams could not get them. Alabama’s program stinks. Besides the NCAA is too busy suspending players who sell a jersey or take a scholarship away because a coach helps a player get home when a family member is sick.

GaMatl

February 6th, 2012
3:50 am

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
4:22 am

LOl … well when I said people would cry even with an early signing period that Saban was now signing all the good players even earlier … Paul in NH said “who knew there there were only 25 good players ? “.

Now we see … that according to legionaire … that Saban has indeed signed the only 25 good players in college football …. just to keep them from playing for other teams .

Me … I am thinking it might be one of those chicken or the egg problems that some of you are having trouble trying to compute . Does the Tide sign the “best” players simply because they are the “best” ? Or do the “best” simply become the best only when they are the type of player willing to work for what they want and compete at a program like Alabama ?

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“I don’t think,” he said, “they’re recruiting anybody to come in and be mediocre.”

Dillon Lee Class of 2012 …. another proud young man from Georgia grateful for his shot to escape the mediocre ( You know who you are … whiners ) ;-)

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
4:33 am

Go get what you want !

Go fight for what you want !

You’re going to have to Earn It !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TRFgM6X-Bc

dean

February 6th, 2012
5:38 am

Relax Bammers, I’m just pulling your hick chains. If you guys are so good at sports why don’t y’all get a pro team over there. Saban can coach it, he was so successfull as a pro coach anyway.

14 MNC and no indoor plumbing

February 6th, 2012
5:44 am

The rest of the country is laughing at you!

Hate the Winner!

February 6th, 2012
6:37 am

So Ga Tech and Tennessee completely pull scholarship offers and the focus is on Saban who just delayed the offer for one semester? Alabama has delayed scholarships, but never completely pulled them or run kids off that didn’t live up to their potential. Article is focused on Bama because they are on top.

dmr

February 6th, 2012
6:54 am

All commitments are non-binding until the paperwork is signed. Therefore, you have to have faith in the “word” given by any one particular coach or institution. Nothing Saban has done is against the rules, but it should give kids and parents some pause about their situations. Give Saban credit though. Where some schools cannot fill needs and all vacancies, Saban convinces kids and families to jump on board, even when they are “over-signed”.

The NCAA should institute an EARLY SIGNING PERIOD for football. It would protect these kids and the integrity of the recruiting process.

01HAWK

February 6th, 2012
7:04 am

TigerForever …………………………..WOW……………….An AUBARN SIGHTING

14 MNC and no indoor plumbing

February 6th, 2012
7:05 am

I took a pea in the Hooch this morning. Enjoy a refreshing glass of water this evening you downtstream yokels!

Lane Kiffin

February 6th, 2012
7:06 am

I just promised kids they could look at my wife.

Crimson Power

February 6th, 2012
7:07 am

You Gorgians just aer jelis! Il posion yoar triis!

Kids or Men?

February 6th, 2012
7:09 am

I despise Bama and Saban, but this it’s big boy time – these programs are multi-million dollar operations, and they want the best talent they can get. If you aren’t the BEST talent, then you are always vulnerable to being replaced.

Simple life rules that apply at my company and all others – unless you work for the government or universities.

Dap01

February 6th, 2012
7:15 am

Dalvin: Character really don’t matter.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
7:23 am

Wouldn’t make a bit of difference to “fix” the problem the whiners have . All early signing would do would be to let them get their delusions crushed even earlier .

I can hear the early signing period meltdown for 2013 already …

” OMG … Reuben Foster is so dumb … I saw him … he can’t play … Richt didn’t recruit him because he isn’t Christian enough … he won’t qualify ! … we didn’t want him anyway ”

” Robert Nkemdiche’s head coach is a secret bammer …. he would’t even let Richt talk to Robert until it was too late .. I work at Chick Fila … Nkemdiche was walking around in a pair of new $hoe$ last Friday at the mall … you know what that means ”

” Well I sure hope Montravius Adams likes sitting on the bench because he will never step foot on the field in Tuscaloosa … How does satan keep getting these guys ? … well they may have won their 3rd nc in 4 years but Satan is headed for the Minnesota Gophers in 2014 … he never stays anywhere long ”

add in the multiple other young men from Georgia who are getting looked at . You want to add in an early signing period to boot dmr ???? Poor ol MC would probably have a nervous breakdown trying to crank out the required number of hit pieces to keep up if he had to work overtime year round ;-)

Special K

February 6th, 2012
7:23 am

Up to 9 pages now. Keep hating folks, keep hating.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
7:27 am

Oops … looks like Dapo1 just added one of the 1001 stereotypical excuses I forgot . Oh well only so much time and they have sooooooo many excuses . Can’t cover them all LOL

W

February 6th, 2012
7:40 am

Keep crying dawgs. Carvel keep fighting the fight. Too bad we take your top two players in the state next year. Maybe you guys could bring Kirby in next year, wouldn’t that be ironic.

North Campus Trash

February 6th, 2012
7:45 am

AJC Editors, I see the “Report this comment” button. Where is the link to report this article? So, this is what one of the country’s great sport pages has become.

Chris

February 6th, 2012
7:45 am

Alabama Journal Constitution!!!

Thanks for the pub

Chris

February 6th, 2012
7:48 am

Carvel,

Go ahead and starting writing the article about how Satan will, and you know its will, take Georgia’s and the nation’s top 2 players….How these kids are committing to the devil.

Bama Aaron

February 6th, 2012
7:53 am

It’s a tough world people, get over it. The people that keep harping over this are hoping it’ll slow Bama down a little, but it won’t. These young men were not wronged. They did NOT have a scholarship taken away…they just had it delayed until 2013. Big difference most of these reporters seem to overlook when they want to bash Saban. After the wanna be’s get through with your cry come back in Sept and watch Bama keep on winning.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
7:57 am

Should be right on time for Foster and Nkemdiche to step in and hit a schedule cycle just made for a championship run in their true freshman season then Chris ;-)

Jimmy Crack

February 6th, 2012
7:58 am

NICK SATAN, evil promisor of lies.

Watch out kids AND PARENTS.

Holy water works but takes too long. A face full of a slamming front door works better.

bill

February 6th, 2012
8:00 am

Coach Rozier, if Dalvin is such a classy kid, why didn’t you encourage him to just have a Bama hat ready and not pull the “bit” with the GT cap. Why rub it in GT’s face, will good faith they offered a scholarship and held it for, with good faith he should have told them upfront his choice. It’s his right to play where he wants and I hope he is successful, just always be classy when others are upfront with you.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
8:09 am

Nice to see the AJC’s objectivity didn’t improve overnight: Blatantly loaded headline “Nick’s Boy” remains up today. Of course, it’s taken our of context. Of course, it completely misrepresents what the story says. Of course, it generates hits.

Congrats, Michael. Your journalism professors are so proud.

SoftZoneD

February 6th, 2012
8:10 am

Hope Dalvin doesn’t break something, mess up a knee, or get the stomach flu.
Nick will send his “boy” packing if he does. That’s all.

Whiskey Breath

February 6th, 2012
8:12 am

Do when now have complete coverage of Alabama? Is the AJC the official word on what is going on with
the Crimson Tide? I guess they are just a superior team and Ga will always be jealous and envious.
Isn’t that obvious?

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
8:14 am

@bill

Most likely he took from reading the AJC blogs that you guys are the type people who desperately need to cling on to your delusions as long as humanly possible . It was an act of compassion giving you those extra few seconds believing your program actually mattered . Think of all the extra “Tomlinson is a lock to …” post that got to go up while he let you folks were allowed to keep your dreams alive . It isn’t his fault you are irrational … ;-)

Coach

February 6th, 2012
8:18 am

Dude let it go! You can knock Coach Saban all you want but he’s a Champion. Please tell us about that auburn player that had you running around all day like Jordan Jefferson!

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
8:20 am

“Congrats, Michael. Your journalism professors are so proud.”

In fairness to MC … journalism (and grade ) schools stopped teaching and started indoctrinating decades ago . If he would toss in a few more Noam Chomsky styled references they wouldn’t care what the topic was supposed to about or what the facts were . It is all about how things make you “feel” about being part of the “oppressed” that matters … don’t you know ? :-)

beanster

February 6th, 2012
8:25 am

Yeah, I agree with Whiskey Breath, Michael. Stop writing all these stories that would interest Bama fans. Maybe if we’re lucky, they’ll go away.

McDawg

February 6th, 2012
8:27 am

The story that just won’t go away

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
8:28 am

Most of us now are in the habit of waiting around for the next Georgia recruit to commit to the Tide beanie … sorry :-(

Bama Fan#2

February 6th, 2012
8:31 am

Crimson Crush keep the fight going!!!
This story is complete CRAP!!! RTR

DawgByte

February 6th, 2012
8:34 am

When is Mike Slive going to deal with Saban and his hideous over signing practices? I mean this guy is a sleazy PIMP and every high school coach should take note of how Saban deals with these kids. There’s no way in hell I’d encourage one of my players to give a verbal to Nick Saban.

nate from detroit

February 6th, 2012
8:37 am

All these mouh breathing, knuckle dragging Bammer fans need to answer a few questions for us:
1 If J Taylor was your son, and was done this way, would you still consider OK
2 If either one of these kids were 5 star high all americans, had committed to Bammer and then 1-2 weeks before signing day called Slick Nick and told him they were going to another school would that be OK
Just a few thoughts to ponder

Kitster

February 6th, 2012
8:38 am

Interesting tidbit – Chris Rumph and Stanley Pritchett were teammates in the early 90’s at the University of South Carolina.

DawgByte

February 6th, 2012
8:41 am

Crimson Crush -

I have to hand it to you – an Alabama fan that can actually formulate a coherent sentence in spite of not having a full set of teeth. Well done!

Signed,
Mike Price
Dennis Franchione
Mike Shula

Eat your heart out. It's ROLLIN'!

February 6th, 2012
8:42 am

“Now, Alabama is the dream school for everybody. This phenomenon occurs every few years, and shifts every few years,” Farrell said. “In the mid-2000s, it was USC with Pete Carroll. Every kid you talked to told you USC was the dream offer. When they would call us or text us with offers, if they got USC at that time, it was a celebration. Then it was Florida – that was the offer every kid went nuts over. Now, it’s Alabama.”

As an example, Farrell said a five-star recruit for the 2013 class, Southern Cal commitment Kenny Bigelow of Delaware, was elated last week to receive an offer from Alabama.

“They can go anywhere in the country, and they won’t win every battle, but they can go any place in the country and have a shot at a kid because the brand name of Alabama is so big right now,” Farrell said.

http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1327660

Abe Lincoln

February 6th, 2012
8:45 am

Satan or Saban how can a player feel good about going to play for him. He is bigger than the players and the program. Its about Saban not Alabama football . High school coaches in the state are becoming aware of his non caring attitude toward the players.

Michael

February 6th, 2012
8:54 am

Here’s an idea. Restart the military draft.

MtCody59

February 6th, 2012
8:55 am

You Georgia folks whine louder than LSU people. Nobody had their Scholorship pulled. They only were asked to wait 1 semester while they rehabbed from serious injuries. Your just mad because Georgia aint won squat since 1980. Whats that, 30 something years. BAMA’s #1, will always be the Best and sets the standard for the SEC. Quit Whining like little Bull Pups. O, by the way, how many of Rev. Richt’s palyers have been arrested the past 4 years?

ROLL TIDE!!!

BamaTBob

February 6th, 2012
9:07 am

Has anybody mentioned that Darius Philon has not had his knee surgery? Alabama can not comment and they are getting trashed while Philon is still injured. Arkansas got a pig in a polk IMO.

joni

February 6th, 2012
9:08 am

This is what you decided to do to slow down Saban in the state of GA???? Really!!?? The weakness that this portrays is sad! If i were a kid in GA and knew this is what the AJC and UGA come up with i would be laughing out loud! I hope you keep wasting your time because nothing will get RN to attend UGA! Good luck!

yellow hammer

February 6th, 2012
9:08 am

now all you dog/techie fans know how bad your parents must have hated the BEAR, takes the best and leaves the rest

Troy

February 6th, 2012
9:09 am

Nick Saben is a total A******. Talk about karma…..folks, there’s a reason the F5 went thru Tuscaloosa…….

Jimmy Crack

February 6th, 2012
9:11 am

gbal

February 6th, 2012
9:13 am

I can see a school being justified in retracting an offer if the prospect has not committed. However, once the prospect commits to a scholorship offer, the school should be bound to that offer unless the kid fails to make his grades, should get in trouble with the law, or should have a career ending injury during senior year.

Likewise, if a prospect is committed to an offer, the prospect should be bound to that commitment unless the school should change coaches.

This is just so obvious, the solution to this problem…Simplify….Makes things easier for kids and for the schools and the recruiting process.

Schools make offers once they are ready to sign a prospect. They have checked out grades, character issues, alternative prospects at a position… make an offer only when ready to sign the kid, and as long as there is an open offer, the kid can accept at any time. DOnt make an offer unless your sure!

Prospects can accept offers any time once they are ready to sign. No “official signing date”. If a prospect has an offer in hand he may sign at any time.

Schools may retract or close their offer at any time if the prospect has not accepted the offer. If they should get other commitments at a position, discover some character issue or grades… If the kid accepts though, he is truely committed and the school is committed as well.

If a school chooses to retract an offer before the athelete makes a decision and signs… no problem… could have signed quickly, choose to wait… all understood up front and no ill feelings justified for either prospect or school.

Once you reach the alloted signees (25 or whatever the number) your recruiting is OVER.

And lastly, a prospect can not be offered nor accept a scholarship until ??? March 1, April 1, end of class… ???? of their Junior year.

This really simplifies the process and eliminates any bending the rules. I cant blame Saban for his recruiting practices … Given the current rules, he is allowed to do so! I wish CMR would look and learn! I mean really…. 17 scholorships!

If the rules are not going to change, UGA had better jump on board. Just too big an advantage in this situation being the “nice guy”.

LHarding Dawg

February 6th, 2012
9:14 am

What would be funny is if one of these guys dads were to beat the crap out of the 5′2″ Saban.

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

February 6th, 2012
9:16 am

Saban controls ‘Bama like that guy up at Penn. State did.

Cobb Dawg

February 6th, 2012
9:21 am

Saban couldn’t care less about players or Bama. All Saban cares about is Saban. And all Bama fans care about is winning football games because there is nothing else in the state (except NASCAR on occasion). *Auburn’s the same way. They’re both 25 years behind the times. Saban will get bored with Bama soon and leave for the highest bidder, or a better chance to show the world how wonderful he thinks he is. He is the definition of narcissistic.

Mike Wahba

February 6th, 2012
9:24 am

This article is just another reason why I will never buy a subscription to AJC. I live in Atlanta btw. This is a one sided article. Scarbinsky is a Barner. Next time, the writer should interview someone from BamaOnline or Tidesports that can counter your one sided story.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

February 6th, 2012
9:25 am

Alabama is going to win but at what cost? Saban is terrible for college ball that is how this is beginning to look.

LHarding Dawg

February 6th, 2012
9:26 am

Maybe you should move back to Alabama. Then someone might care if you support the AJC or not.

bama slamma

February 6th, 2012
9:27 am

joni

February 6th, 2012
9:28 am

Surely AJC and UGA can come up with a better plan for stopping Saban! RN and RF are going to UA and these sad little articles won’t stop it! Articles like this come off as WEAK!! Hey UGA be a man and stop Saban on the field1 Oh thats right….. you had your chance! Remember “knockout” i mean blackout!

Statick

February 6th, 2012
9:29 am

Man, Saban is a snake. And the NCAA allows him to be. Can’t blame the man for exploiting the system that he makes money for. It’s just too bad the kids have to pay for his shenanigans.

bitter dope smoking super ga_y bamma fans

February 6th, 2012
9:32 am

The problem as I see it, Its win at all cost, alot of people only care about wearing bamma hats,

tee shirts because they won multiple national championships, especially the teenager group

They hide there georgia gear and have started wearing alabamma gear LIKE THE COWARDS

THET ARE. I see it in town and at the gym. Its the win only mentality. But as soon as georgia

starts winning next year, then back on goes the bulldog hats

———————-PS either support your collage full time or go —F-#$% YOURSELF

—————————-BAND WAGON PUNKS

BAMABABE

February 6th, 2012
9:33 am

once again the AJC doing their best to make BAMA look bad…as far as Greyshirting goes….Philon was dishonest about needing surgery and that all came out later, and while i do feel bad for him, its actualyl in his best interest to greyshirt….why would you want to push a guy whos injured into practicing without having had proper rehab and surgery. that will end with a permanent injury and prob career ending….its sad that ppl are looking at Saban like hes the bad guy, but if your school had to choice to make they would do THE SAME THING….

bama slamma

February 6th, 2012
9:35 am

Also, how is this a scandal if the AJC is the only media source that still cares about the situation?

M A Double T

February 6th, 2012
9:39 am

Boo Hoo…. RMFT!!! Why don’t you host another BLACKOUT?

Eldawg

February 6th, 2012
9:42 am

This is the beginning of the end for Saban

BamaBoy

February 6th, 2012
9:42 am

Please get your facts straight!!!! The kid needed to take care of his injury and he has not! Would you buy a car that was having issues starting?

http://arkansas.247sec.com/2012/02/03/the-curious-journey-of-signee-darius-philon/

Saban's Minions

February 6th, 2012
9:44 am

Saban is a cut throat scumbag who will screw your kid without a second thought if it means he can increase his chance of winning. Of course, he’s hired to win, but it shows you what a bunch of classless (and in many cases, toothless) hicks support SPUAT and Saban regardless of how badly he treats these kids.

14XNC

February 6th, 2012
9:45 am

I laugh at the UGA fans …..I am a Christian…..but thanking God for a good Christian man as your coach and demonizing Nick Saban? Come on Man! If we are gonna thanks God, Thankd God for Nick Sabam, Thank God for the Univesity of Alabama and the BLESSINGS that he (GOD) has given us! RTR!

Rick Butkis

February 6th, 2012
9:49 am

They didn’t pull their offer! My god, get it straight. Offering a gray shirt is not pulling an offer. If these players are injured and aren’t going to be able to play or practice their freshman year anyways, why would you waste a redshirt on that player? They will still have a spot at Alabama once they go through rehab and get healthy. Schools all over the country give gray shirts, stop being so ignorant.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
9:49 am

Well it’s obvious the AJC is finally trying to stand up for one of its own in state football teams, thumbs up to the AJC! The power of the pen! Keep up the shallow journalism AJC. Little hint here try posting both sides of the story makes for a better read.
ROLL TIDE 14 National Championships and counting…………………….

PMC

February 6th, 2012
9:49 am

What we need is the early signing period. There’s no real reason to have a signing day either. Let guys sign thier contract when they commit and that’s it.

Attrition? That’s just do bad coach. You get what you offer.

secbama

February 6th, 2012
9:49 am

So its okay for Mark Richt to kick off 3 players after signing day for minor rules violation to make room for 2012 recruiting class? Cuts 3 players to make room for next DREAM TEAMERS class…double standard. Bama gonna kick UGA butt in Georgia Dome next December boys! Deal with it…Nicky owns UGA…

P.S. Hope you pull out them ‘blackshirts’ or might morph power ranger outfits against us so you can go to another funeral.

Otha

February 6th, 2012
9:50 am

Why didn’t Auburn–in need of quality defensive linemen and with several scholarships available–swoop back in and offer Philon?

#15

February 6th, 2012
9:50 am

This is a great article for coaches to share with student-athletes. Just goes to show how important it is to have options. Altruism aside, this is a business and the student-athletes should respect it as such. Parents, please get involved early in the process. Student-athletes, do your homework and explore your options. In all that is being written about this situation, let us remember that these young men will all still have the opportunity to earn degrees from great institutions. At some point, playing for a national championship will have to take the back seat to education, or is this the real elephant in the room? Get it Elephant-Alabama?

PMC

February 6th, 2012
9:51 am

I don’t understand honestly the bluster about recruiting.

Nothing has happened until the contract is signed, period.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
9:52 am

Saban just needs to have his as$ kicked, physically.

Andy

February 6th, 2012
9:52 am

Enter your comments here

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
9:54 am

@PMC

You must be a bucked toothed fool from AL who is clueless about integrity.

A.B. Normal

February 6th, 2012
9:55 am

College football is BIG business. Big business can get messy. When it gets messy people get hurt. End of story.

bucket

February 6th, 2012
9:55 am

Come on Bama guys, you are being disingenious about this situation. How can Tomlinson’s coach say that his guy is not involved in this? If Tomlinson, Yeldon, and Kirven had not committed to Alabama then we would have never heard about these situations. Taylor and Philon would have signed with Alabama and took a redshirt. Remember the redshirt? That’s what coaches give to kids who are waiting their turn, undersized, or injured. If Saban had come to these guys late in the process and offered them a greyshirt, then I would have had no problem with it. But that’s not what happened. Saban saw a chance to land better prospects than the kids he had committed and oh, by the way, were now injured and so he offered a greyshirt to save face and to maximize the number of players he was signing.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
9:56 am

Geez, Give it up already. Appears it all worked out. Each young man received a scholarship. Their decision was to that they would be ready to compete this fall. Alabama’s position was no from a medical perspective you will not. If they are we wish them nothing but the best. If not then it will be our loss. And please dont start with the sanctity of CMR. Dont go down that road. Need we bring out the Ogletree, Crowell and Grantham issues.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
9:56 am

AL and Saban are poster children for everything the is wrong with college football. Corruption on display at AL.

GTBob

February 6th, 2012
9:57 am

So basically Dalvin wasted the time of the GT coaches, probably prevented some young man from getting a scholarship offer to GT, and caused another young man to make urgent last minute changes because he lost his scholarship to Bama. All so he could play the hat game. This makes me lose a lot of respect for Dalvin.

JD

February 6th, 2012
9:57 am

Dalvin pulled a “Saban” on Tech by keeping them hanging on, even though he knew he was going to Alabama. The true meaning of pulling a “Saban” though is when a kid signs with another school on signing day after being committed for a long time. It does go both ways and kids will do it as long as they see that it works for coaches too.

stingembuzz

February 6th, 2012
9:58 am

This article brings into question the “character” of Tomlinson. We all know that Saban is a snake and were led to believe that Tomlinson was a character guy but the stunt he pulled has changed my thoughts on the kid. Mike Rozier is so full of dog squeeze. There wasn’t always a scholarship for him at Alabama, he took Philon’s scholarship. It’s only a matter of time before Alabama get’s caught again and gets back on probation.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
9:58 am

@Bama Mike

A skid mark who wants to deflect the corruption at AL to other schools. Clean up you own cess pool, the stink is bad at AL. Corrupt to the core.

Tide Roll

February 6th, 2012
9:59 am

SEC fans—furious at Saban / Alabama for winning all these BCS titles. 2 out of 3 years, with more to come. This 2012 Bama team may be one of the best yet. Saban’s reloaded for another title run.

md4ua1994

February 6th, 2012
10:00 am

Wow! Lots and lots of butthurt bulldogs and barners here! Neither Taylor nor Philon’s scholarship was pulled. Both scholarships would have been honored. They were only asked to delay their enrollment by a semester. Too bad you morons failed that reading comprehension class in middle school. Keep on bitching, whining and moaning…..maybe that’ll help the butthurt. Roll Tide boys and girls!

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:00 am

@A.B. Normal

“College football is BIG business. Big business can get messy. When it gets messy people get hurt. End of story.”

Not really. The corruption in the big business is the problem. Just like it is the problem at AL. Keep trying to defend and deflect. Funny to read.

Great Recruiter

February 6th, 2012
10:01 am

Grayshirting and pulling scholarships is only half of Alabama’s problem. Alabama has 114 players on there roster next year. They can only give scholarships to 85. I wish someone would report on the 19 kids that have signed with ‘Bama but will not be on scholarship next season. This is the bigger problem with Saban. If you do not meet his standards, he will pull your scholarship and give it to someone else.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:02 am

@md4ua1994

Another fool(e.g. AL supporter) who wants to deflect from the corruption that is reigning at AL.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:04 am

I would personally like to thank the state of Georgia for Reuben Foster and Robert Nkemdiche. You guys are helping build the Bama dynasty and we sure do appreciate it. Like LeBron said, “Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five…..” Well, you get it.

Or maybe you don’t While you losers watch Mark Richt’s players get arrested and finish with mediocre records year after year, Bama is winning national championships, graduating players at an alarming rate for an annual national title contender, and not getting arrested.

The bottom line here is, Nick Saban coaches champs, Mark Richt coaches chumps. Georgia won’t ever be anything more than a middle of the road SEC team. I wish that the conference would trade you bunch of pansies for Florida State or VT. At least they do their talking on the field…

Otha

February 6th, 2012
10:05 am

Jonathan Jean-Bart of Henry County HS will be grayshirted by Georgia State University’s Coach Bill Curry. I. Am. OUTRAGED. Thanks for the coverage.

stingembuzz

February 6th, 2012
10:05 am

secbama,
I can not believe I am speaking up for UGA, but kicking players off the team for theft makes sense to me. If that is “minor” in Tuscaloosa, what are we not hearing about your football players? How major are the crimes that they are committing?

Roswell RTR

February 6th, 2012
10:06 am

Get over it Jawja fans. Saban is making Georgia his backyard and will be taking what he wants. Quit sounding like a Big 10/11/12 crybaby and compete for what you want. Otherwise, get used to being dominated…

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
10:07 am

P & S

And your crack pot team of investigators/journalist have arrived at this conclusion. Again show us who lost in these situations? Your envy is noted.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
10:07 am

I love all the Saban haters. And you guys wonder why he cares so much about winning.

There are several facts that are conveniently left out of this (and many, many other) hack job. First, Alabama didn’t strip Taylor or Philon of their scholarship offers to UA. That’s not at all what happened and any football fan with half a brain should know this. If anything, Taylor and Philon didn’t honor their commitment because they chose to sign elsewhere when their offer to Alabama was still there. All Saban and UA did was ask the two kids to enroll a semester later (a grand total of 4 months) and they would come in on full scholarship. Neither one would play next season because they are still rehabbing. Actually, Philon hasn’t even had surgery on his knee yet; surgery and rehab that will be required for him to compete at the SEC level. And you know what else? Philon has a really good chance of not qualifying academically anyway.

On to another point…where’s the outrage when kids are committed to one school for months, only to flip on National Signing Day to a different team and leave the team and coach that kid was once committed to scrambling to fill that now vacant spot? That happens FAR more often than a coach telling a kid to defer his enrollment by 4 months. Also, where’s the outrage with other programs that use this exact same tactic? There’s not any because those programs aren’t winning…which brings me to my next point.

Saban’s job is to win, and he’s doing a pretty good job of it right now. He gets paid to win football games. In order to do that, he feels he needs to get the best players and coaches to come in and give him the best shot to do his job…which again is what? To WIN. Does it suck for Taylor and Philon because Saban is doing what’s required? Yes and no. Yes because they don’t get to go to Alabama right away. No, because they chose to go elsewhere and play.

Terry

February 6th, 2012
10:07 am

Bama Mike, You can try all day long, to make it sound like Saban did nothing wrong, but at the end of the day, Saban lied to these kids, and if your a believer in God, you know what his word says about liar’s.

RTR 14 championships

February 6th, 2012
10:08 am

Every time I turn around its another violation by Mark Richt, & last week he released 3 players but gives no reason why. But Nick Saban is the devil? Hahaha. Its simple to see through the ignorant hypocrisy from the losers is Georgia. Nick Saban for President!!

jaglaw

February 6th, 2012
10:09 am

BOTTOM LINE: Kids go to Bama because they cant qualify at Tech, UGA, UF, etc. Its just the truth. My father spent years in the georgia education system, attempting to merge a technical college with ones in Alabama. He said, ” …theres no way to do this merger, the kids in that state (AL) are so far behind ours (GA)..”
Now, I know UGA doesnt have the highest qualification requirements in the land, but they are quite respectable. And despite my love for UGA, I must admit, Tech has relatively high standards as well.
As long as this is the case, AL will constantly get kids that might normaly struggle academically elsewhere.

Roswell RTR

February 6th, 2012
10:09 am

College is the training ground for the real world. Why is no one crying for kids who can’t hack the academics at the school they choose and lose their academic scholarship?

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
10:09 am

Question: What is an Athletic Scholarship? Athletic scholarship is one of the numerous types of scholarships offered to indivduals. An Athletic scholarship is offered to Athletes’ to attend a college or university, awarded to an individual based predominantly on his or her ABILITY to play in a sport.
RTR

North Campus Trash

February 6th, 2012
10:11 am

MC, I thought this was supposed to be reported blog of recruiting information, and as such, subject to the rules of professional and ethical journalism. if you want to be a columnist, talk to your bosses about a promotion and stop field-testing your rough drafts on the rest of us.

stingembuzz

February 6th, 2012
10:11 am

Great Recruiter

February 6th, 2012
10:01 am

Grayshirting and pulling scholarships is only half of Alabama’s problem. Alabama has 114 players on there roster next year. They can only give scholarships to 85. I wish someone would report on the 19 kids that have signed with ‘Bama but will not be on scholarship next season. This is the bigger problem with Saban. If you do not meet his standards, he will pull your scholarship and give it to someone else.

that’s not a 19…that’s a 29

jaglaw

February 6th, 2012
10:12 am

In Alabama’s defense, I do honestly like their brand of FB. They run, block, and tackle better than anyone else. Those fundamentals, and the ability to play power FB has always impressed me. If I wasnt a UGA fan, I would probably be a Bama fan. They do have a great tradition.

Tdawg

February 6th, 2012
10:13 am

gbal if I am not mistaken a verbal deal carries as much weight as a written agreement, especially if the verbal was wittnessed by a third party. The kids and their parents could most likely sue the schools and make them honor their offer, if they chose to do so. I would also think that they could sue these schools for breech of contract and get a monatary settlement from the school. I am shocked that in today’s law suit happy country that this hasn’t already happened. Righ now, if I were thsse parents, I’d be dragging their lying arses to court right now.

gadawgs

February 6th, 2012
10:14 am

SEC Bama..word is they alledgedly stole money from teammates. That is not a minor violation. And trust me Nick Marshall is an outstanding football player that was going to play alot next year. So you are way off base on this one.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
10:16 am

Terry, Pleeeease ( eyes rolling back ). It’s just a grayshirt matter. No broken promises. Again last time I checked they are still in a better situation than most of their classmates.

bucket

February 6th, 2012
10:16 am

Since all the Bama fans on here apparently don’t know what integrity looks like I will provide you a case study: Let’s suppose a certain high school player commits to Alabama for next year. He commits 11 months prior to NSD and is the 7th commitment for that class. The young man doesn’t visit any other schools because he is committed to Alabama. Then the kid gets hurt during his senior season, but it’s not a career ending injury, but he’s probably going to need a year of rehab to be sure he’s ready to play in college. A coach with integrity should go to the kid and say, “Kid, in our opinion you are not going to be ready to play as a true freshman. So here’s what I want you to do. You committed to me, so I am committed to you. I want you to take a redshirt for this coming season. You will sign on NSD and come in next summer and start working with the team and rehabbing with our medical staff. You can get a head start on your college by really concentrating on your schoolwork and then you will have a chance to start playing as a redshirt freshman.” If your coach does this you won’t have to read negative stories about your school in the paper and you won’t have 18 year old kids and their coaches saying, “They did us wrong.”

TechMan23

February 6th, 2012
10:16 am

The more things that change, the more they stay the same.
Shocker,
bama/saban’s program is dirty(greyshirting scam)… whats the limit on greyshirts??nada..lol
…..whats the cost/risk of greyshirts???? zip/nada;except to the children
Bbryant’s program was dirty(oversigning/dumping).
Is this a Shocker…..no.

Also, doesn’t DTs “coach” sound more like a snakey “Agent”? Guess he’s not a coach any more, anyway…..

question

February 6th, 2012
10:20 am

If Alabama claims 14 national titles but has really only won 8, shouldn’t they get to commit to 30 or so prospects but only sign 25 of them?

Tdawg

February 6th, 2012
10:21 am

RTR 14 championships, dang right Adolf Saban, I mean Nick Hitler, I mean that that lying SOB. My bad. As soon as I said lie, I knew who I was talking about. That lying pathetic excuse of a human being, Nick Saban for president. Roll Retards, I mean Tide. Same difference.

Tree Killer

February 6th, 2012
10:21 am

We can hide over here in the Red Neck Fortress, kill trees, pretend like we have a University, and pay athletes. We are so isolated, that no one kind find out. Here is what I think though, we either win it all or not at all. Heck Ray Goff beat us a couple of times. Saban knows how to recruit, prepare execute and manage. That is what he gets paid to do. He lives on a high wire. If he falls he will fall big. He knows how to contain the press, and his atheletes. They get to live in an Athletic Dorm. You can’t do that at most schools anymore. You can at Alabama. Give him credit, he has done what he got hired to do. If you have issues take it up with those that should be monitoring his practices. Otherwise, leave him alone. Mark RIcht has an even record with him. Les Miles has a winning record with him. He is on top right now. Give him his due. One more thing, when he has an assistant that is pulling down the rest of the staff/team, he finds him another place to go. Compare that to WIllie M, and the downfall which it caused at UGA, or how Tech used Gailey, or the less than mediocrity currently afforded at UT. Remember one other thing. It is just a game, high stakes, but just a game to most. Here in Bama it is a life.

Tdawg

February 6th, 2012
10:24 am

budket, please do not try to confuse these bama fans with lodgic. It give’s them a headace.

Terry

February 6th, 2012
10:29 am

Bama Mike, Call it what you want, Saban lied, know wonder Alabama is below average in education.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
10:30 am

Tdawg, Show us the lie. Show us who was offended. Sorry your spell check is not working today. Its “logic.” Envy does that to you. Can cloud your “lodgic” and give you a “headace”

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:31 am

@bigtime

“Or maybe you don’t While you losers watch Mark Richt’s players get arrested and finish with mediocre records year after year, Bama is winning national championships, graduating players at an alarming rate for an annual national title contender, and not getting arrested.”

The comments from a Bama supporter with the intelligence of a toilet bowl skid mark. Both schools recruit the same players and you really believe they change when they cross the state line? Why is it AL doesn’t suspend on first time failures on drug tests? BURIED. AL always has and always will operate a corrupt program. ESPN has raised the stakes and continues to spray air fresher to cover up the stink of the AL program.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
10:31 am

@Tdawg What? Spell check is on most computers. Try it.

PMC

February 6th, 2012
10:32 am

I find it hilarious that “integrity” is spoke about in regards to major college football.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:34 am

“Terry

February 6th, 2012
10:29 am
Bama Mike, Call it what you want, Saban lied, *know wonder Alabama is below average in education.”

*Irony

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:34 am

@Roswell RTR

Why do inbred, buck toothed clowns who support ‘Bama’ live in Georgia? Go back to the septic tank cleaning business capital of the world and worship your corrupt foot ball god.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
10:35 am

PMC agree no school is completely clean

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:36 am

So the BCS can crown a champ who couldn’t win their conference?

Let the ESPN corruption continue!

look at me now...

February 6th, 2012
10:36 am

There is tremendous pressure to win and build a program that can sustain a university and contribute to the bottom line. It is a business! The kids have to understand this part. Saban is doing just that. Ole Urban “Cryer” is showing the Big10 how we recruit down here and now there are some rumblings from other Big 10 schools. It is what it is. These kids will be o.k. To them they don’t care where they get their PE degree. Most are only there to stay eligible long enough til someone says you’re ready for the next level. Kids want to go to the Bama’s and LSU’s. The rest of the schools got to either learn how to play the recruiting game or remain a distant third to the big two in the SEC.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
10:37 am

Terry, Our faith is in “the process” which has rewarded us with 2 National Championships in the past 3 years. The almight has greater issues than football recruiting. But do not fret. Remember CMR loves you. But be forever warned. That love goes only two deep on the depth chart.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:39 am

@The Bear “PMC agree no school is completely clean”

Bama translation. “Everyone else is cheating so we have too.”

This type of logic is the result a family tree with just a trunk.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:39 am

“Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:31 am
@bigtime

“Or maybe you don’t While you losers watch Mark Richt’s players get arrested and finish with mediocre records year after year, Bama is winning national championships, graduating players at an alarming rate for an annual national title contender, and not getting arrested.”

The comments from a Bama supporter with the intelligence of a toilet bowl skid mark. Both schools recruit the same players and you really believe they change when they cross the state line? Why is it AL doesn’t suspend on first time failures on drug tests? BURIED. AL always has and always will operate a corrupt program. ESPN has raised the stakes and continues to spray air fresher to cover up the stink of the AL program.”
It sounds like you are still making excuses for your pi$$-poor football team, or lack thereof. When is the last time the ‘DAWGS’ have won anything other than the Fulmer Cup? You ‘DAWGS’ are all alike; All bark, no bite. Too bad it carries over to the football field as well. Weak as water, this is UGA football.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:41 am

No wonder y’all carry around Florida’s jock-strap all the time. Listen to yourselves whine like a bunch of school girls.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
10:42 am

I am proud of my Trunk! Never thought someone would stoop that low!………….. The nerve of some people just amazes me!

Joplin

February 6th, 2012
10:42 am

Remember when Bammers cried and cried because Fulmer ratted them out? Oh, now that they are winning everyone else is a crybaby. Saban is receiving the same oversight that they had of the program at Penn State. Sooner or later there will be a big fall. It happens every time. Who will be crying then?

Bobby Dodd

February 6th, 2012
10:43 am

Bryant was filth and Saban is filth. Nothing has changed at Bama…. Roll Tide! WEEEHEWWWWW!!!!!!!

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:45 am

@Bama Mike

“Our faith is in “the process” which has rewarded us with 2 National Championships in the past 3 years.”

Your faith is in a corrupt process. You posts demonstrate you are nothing more than a fool who thinks because AL football team wins at all costs, it somehow reflects positively on you as a supporter and as AL as a university.

Dawg FAN

February 6th, 2012
10:45 am

3 players kicked off of UGA’s team and Dawg fan’s are worried about something that happened 2 weeks ago. That’s why we’re in the position we’re in. Let’s worry about OUR team and not what happens elsewhere.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:50 am

“Dawg FAN

February 6th, 2012
10:45 am
3 players kicked off of UGA’s team and Dawg fan’s are worried about something that happened 2 weeks ago. That’s why we’re in the position we’re in. Let’s worry about OUR team and not what happens elsewhere.”

This is the first rational UGA fan that has been on here in a while. Kudos to you, sir.

Lefty

February 6th, 2012
10:53 am

If kids are going to leave schools hanging until the last minute to commit, the coaches have every right to protect themselves and keep seeking others who WILL sign on signing day. Why would you make only 25 offers when half of those kids might jump at the last minute…or get hurt and not be able to play. It sounds like good policy to me regardless of which coaches are doing it. I smell sour grapes!!!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
10:53 am

I can’t really be mad at Bama or Saban they are within the limits of the rules at this time. The only way to make this a fair fight is to allow a recruit to sign a LOI the day he “commits” that will slow down the process, coaches won’t offer what they are selling to 10 th graders etc if they can be obligated at that point. If you can sign when offered and that is binding few underclassmen will be offered as coaches will adopt a completely different mind set on stockpiling commits.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:53 am

1 AL player arrested on a Felony drug charge 1 week after playing in the BCS championship game. BURIED.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
10:54 am

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2012/1/3/2678758/mark-richt-georgia-football-2012-outback-bowl-michigan-state

“I feel no such compunction this morning after referring to Georgia’s decisions in the first overtime against Michigan State as “the dumbest playcalling of all-time,” an episode of “epic stupidity,” and Georgia “voluntarily castrating themselves.” Mark Richt’s course of action was just that bad. College football implemented its new overtime rules in 1996 and over that 15-year time period, I cannot recall any team getting the ball in the bottom half of an inning and settling for a field goal without making any attempt to get the ball any closer than 25 yards out. And the funny thing is that there have been plenty of college coaches who did not have kickers who finished dead-last in their conferences in field goal percentage and those coaches have all said to themselves “you know what, a 42-yard field goal is not a gimme for a college coach; maybe I should try to get 15 yards or so so that the odds of making this field goal go up significantly.” …

If you want a more substantive criticism of Richt, it is this: eleven years at the helm in Athens has shown that he is dependent on Florida having a bad coach in order to be successful. When Richt came to Athens, Steve Spurrier was putting one of his best Gator teams on the field in 2001, a team that should have played Miami for the national title in Pasadena if not for a pair of injuries to Ernest Graham. Spurrier then flew the coop for Dan Snyder’s filthy lucre. He was replaced by Ron Zook and Richt enjoyed his heyday: three division and two conference titles. Urban Meyer then came onto the scene*, and Richt did not take another trip to the SEC Championship Game until Meyer had fled the stage. Now, the elite programs in the conference are in Tuscaloosa and Baton Rouge, a point that was drilled home in the second half of the title game against LSU. Is Richt going to require regression from one or both of those programs in order to win a third conference title? Quite possibly? More generally, can we accept that Richt is a good, but not great coach? I certainly can, but it will be easier if days like yesterday become more frequent.”

js

February 6th, 2012
10:56 am

It sounds like when Dalvin committed in January, that it knocked Philon out of his scholarship. I don’t know why BAMA waited so long to let Philon know he would have to grayshirt? Only Saban knows that answer.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
10:57 am

@bigtime you guys still on probation of did that end last year?

Dawg FAN

February 6th, 2012
10:59 am

@Plain and Simple,

It wasn’t swept under the rug, it was in all of the papers and even on ESPN. It was after he left school and returned to Florida to get ready for the draft. Yeah, Dre Kirkpatrick just cost himself millions for being an idiot but don’t say nothing was said about it. The fact was he was not in Tuscaloosa and had already declared for the draft so no affiliation with team after that. It was pathetic though, I agree.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:00 am

Saban isn’t doing anything illegal. Furthermore, he’s not preventing any other schools from doing the same.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
11:01 am

“Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
10:53 am
1 AL player arrested on a Felony drug charge 1 week after playing in the BCS championship game. BURIED.”

Actually it wasn’t a felony (Less than 21 grams marijuana that was his buddy’s = misdemeanor) and he wasn’t an Alabama player. It was Dre Kirkpatrick, an ex-Alabama player that had declared for the draft and was no longer a part of the team at the time of his arrest. Nice try, but at least write facts…then you wouldn’t have much to say, now would you? 8-)

bamabelle2000

February 6th, 2012
11:02 am

I find it interesting that UGA fans are crying about Saban and praising your “christian coach” who has more players arrested then anyone IN the SEC. He may not greyshirt but he sure’s hell doesn’t have a problem picking players with character issues.

Just Wait Until Next Year!!!!

February 6th, 2012
11:03 am

Maybe the AJC should register as a recuiter since they are trying so hard to keep Georgia high school players in the state.

Fed Up

February 6th, 2012
11:04 am

Wow, welcome to the grown up world, where everything doesn’t go your way!!!

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
11:04 am

“WDE

February 6th, 2012
10:57 am
@bigtime you guys still on probation of did that end last year?”

LINK

gcs

February 6th, 2012
11:05 am

How is this a subject of discussion?

The SEC has handcuffed their coaches and because of this, two young men will not get to go to the school of their choice. The 25 scholarship limit is hurting these kids more than it is helping.

But I digress. What is the big “scandal” here? Taylor and Philon did not lose any money. They were not harmed in any way. They were OWED NOTHING. Scholarships costs thousands of dollars in 4 to 5 years of free college education and room & board. There is on entitlement here.

So, what is the final outcome? Taylor gets to go to Kentucky and Philon gets to go to Arkansas. Were they left out in the cold? No. Do they still get to go to college for free? Yes. Do they still get to play big-time college football? Yes. Do they still have every opportunity to go to the NFL? Yes. Are you just trying to find petty ways to knock Alabama down? Yes.

I find it interesting that every article on this blog is about how recruits might flip to UGA and how every other program is evil and dirty. Biased journalism going on here? Yes.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 6th, 2012
11:08 am

You UGA ,Ga Tech, and AU fans all have a big case of penis envy! More recruiting news for these three small time programs can be found at CryMeARiver.com

Now I can’t answer why Dalvin wanted to wait until signing day. He couldn’t give me an answer on that. But our timing had nothing to do with [Philon] because Dalvin always had an Alabama offer. Alabama was the most truthful school in the recruiting process. They were the most honest. They didn’t pester him and they didn’t bug him. That was one big thing that Dalvin liked about Alabama – that they didn’t downgrade other programs. Coach Saban spoke very highly of other programs, especially Georgia and Georgia Tech. And Dalvin, with the type of character he has, he appreciated that. Alabama didn’t play any games with him.”

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:09 am

@Just Wait Until Next Year!!!! No the AJC won’t do that they know with all the talent in the state, we don’t have enough D-1 schools for all the D-1 players from Georgia to stay in state on a yearly basis. What they can do is unlike the Bama papers is shine a little light on some of the border line recruiting practices some schools employe to “maximize” their recruiting classes, this might help Georgia high school players make more informed choices..its a win-win.

GT ATW

February 6th, 2012
11:11 am

One thing is for sure–Dalvin is a first class punk!

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:11 am

@GCS

Great post. These two young men made their OWN choice to go to Kentucky and Arkansas respectively. They chose those scholarships over one that Alabama was STILL offering. Get that through your heads people!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:13 am

@Wet Willie…keep on smiling really penis envy?? Well what do you expect ? It’s been proven since the Bear that Bama fans are the biggest dicks in college fandom. And Willie not in a good way….

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:14 am

When wet willie and the other stupid bama folks come on to a GA newspaper blog and brag about bama, it de-values what was accomplished.

Every time.

If you feel the need to come on here and remind us who won the mulligan bowl, it de-values your win.

Every time.

All it makes you is a redneck blowhard.

Every time.

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
11:14 am

Everyone wants to take shots when your on top. Most Bama fans know this and just laugh at these weak articles and the toothless white trash leghumpers who vomit envy all over these blogs on a daily basis.

2011 National Champions!!! Roll Tide Haaa haaaa hate on haters!

atl fan

February 6th, 2012
11:15 am

Has the AJC gotten on the UGA payroll or the Barns? Article screams smear campaign. Sad to see all the sheep buying this garbage. Stay hollier than thou jawga fans, makes it that much sweeter when you fall on your face yearly.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:15 am

@AJCwithyetanotherhackjob my my still offering a scholarship only a year later….as if a year isn’t a entire life time to a 17 – 18 year old kid..good try.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:17 am

Case in point blackout

I rest my case

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:18 am

@WDE I think you meant 4 months, not a year.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
11:19 am

@Blackoutanyone?…. Roll Tide

Just Wait Until Next Year!!!!

February 6th, 2012
11:20 am

@WDE…”we” I thought Auburn was in Alabama. I guess I was wrong. It is in Georgia. My bad.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:20 am

@bigtime two things I notice 1) you didn’t answer my question when did bama get off probation or are they still on it 2) you neglected to add the 2010 Iron Bowl to you link, you remember that game don’t you the one that Auburn came back from what was it 24 points down at the half to beat Bama..oh and I’m not a Auburn fan..pay attention.

Bear's Boy

February 6th, 2012
11:22 am

Bear—greatest coach in college history

Nick–with a couple of more titles in the next few years, will right behind Bear!

RTR!!!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:23 am

@Just Wait Until Next Year!!!! I’m not a Auburn fan, UGA all the way…WDE are my initials,

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 6th, 2012
11:30 am

With Saban “loyalty” is a one way street. He expects recruits to “honor” their commitment and gets mad when they don’t. Tomlinson got a scholarship because Sabasn dropped Taylor for Yellin and he dropped Philon for Tomlinson. Otherwise there would not have been an opening since Philon and Taylor committed months before Tomlinson. Tomlinson’s head coach said it all when he said Tomlinson was Saban’s BOY. It doesn’t bother me that UGA did not get him. They got two DT’s that are rated higher than Tomlinson. Saban technically did not break any rules but this was definitely the wrong way to treat a human being. Saban is all about Saban. He know he is unethical and so do we. Ethics mean nothing to Saban. He is paid big money to win and the University of Bammer has sold their soul to win now. The NCAA should reign them in but they have no real power. The SEC should do something about this.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
11:31 am

@WDE….WDE<—- yeah, I see how someone would think you were an auburn fan. It's hard to tell you DAWG fans apart from auburn fans nowadays anyway.

To answer your question, we were off probation last year.

I have a question for you now… How many of UGA's football players were on probation last year?

I could have posted the 2010 Iron Bowl, I could have also posted this

Remarkable

February 6th, 2012
11:34 am

Darius Philon can blame Dalvin Tomlinson for not getting a scholarship to Alabama.

Porky Pig

February 6th, 2012
11:34 am

You wrestle with a pig, you’re gonna get dirty, and remember; the pig likes it.

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
11:34 am

WDE,
Might want to change your handle, as everyone will always think it stands for War Damn Eagle. I know it’s your intitals, but if mine were “UGA”, I’m sure everyone would assume I’m a Dawg.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
11:35 am

@WDE….WDE<—-I don't know how I could've confused you for an auburn fan. Although, it is hard to tell auburn fans and Dawg fans apart nowadays.

To answer your question, yes, Alabama was off of probation last year.

I have a question for you…How many UGA players were on probation last year?

Yes, I could've posted a link to the 2010 IB, but I also could've posted THIS

hvacigar

February 6th, 2012
11:38 am

All I see on this board is a bunch of fear, fear of Nick Saban and Alabama. AJC, Coach Saban put your state on notice this year. No recruit is safe. As for your “story”, Taylor’s scholarship was not pulled, removed, or denied by Saban. He was told in plenty of time that his offer was for a greyshirt. There is no problem with this as it gives a recruit time to make a fair assessment of other programs. Saban makes greyshirt offers for two reasons. The first is to give a player from a school without an adequate weight program to acclimate before hitting the turf. And second, Saban expects players to come in and compete from day one, and he has no reservation about playing a true freshman in a key position. If there is an injury that has kept a player from being able to compete in this manner, it is in the best interest of the players to work through a preperatory regiment to acclimate before enrolling. Both Philon and Taylor were given this option, and both decided to go otherwise. Why don’t you write more articles on UGA/GT, things like “Where had GT gone?” or “Paintings of the Georgia Penal System, UGA edition” and let Saban continue beating the SEC on and off the field.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:40 am

@Flo-Ri-Duh

Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Saban was “honoring” his comment to Taylor and Philon. He didn’t pull their scholarship offers. Why is it so difficult for people to see that? Instead, Saban picked up two more kids that could possibly make an earlier impact that Taylor and Philon because the latter two are coming off serious knee injuries (and again, Philon hasn’t even had surgery to repair his yet!).

King Saban

February 6th, 2012
11:40 am

Look at all the haters after Alabama roars to a 2nd national championship in 3 years. We still finished with the nation’s top recruiting class and will probably do so again in 2013. Both players had knee injuries, Saban wanted them to delay enrollment because of that and the scholly crunch. Big freaking deal. They still had offers to attend. They just had to delay enrollment.

The funny thing from all the haters is that Saban is the bad guy for deferring enrollment but of course its okay for kids to change their mind on signing day and sign with someone else. That’s perfectly okay with the hypocrites on here aint it? It was just fine with the dawg fans on here when DaRick Rogers spurned UGA for UT wasn’t it?

WDE

February 6th, 2012
11:40 am

@Beast from the East good to hear from you..I have thought of changing but it just confounds the Barners so badly its hard to want to change..

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
11:41 am

@hvacigar BOOM! that just happened!

ROLL TIDE

Kerryb

February 6th, 2012
11:41 am

That statement by Saban pretty much shows how disingenuous he is.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
11:42 am

@bigtime

“Actually it wasn’t a felony (Less than 21 grams marijuana that was his buddy’s = misdemeanor) and he wasn’t an Alabama player. It was Dre Kirkpatrick, an ex-Alabama player that had declared for the draft and was no longer a part of the team at the time of his arrest”

So he broke bad 1 week after leaving the team? What was buried while he was on the field for AL in the 2011/2012 season? Your response is typical of AL fools who want to win at all cost. An “ex-Alabama player”? Does this mean he never played at AL? Or does it mean once you played and can’t be anyone, you don’t give a damn. We know the answer don’t we. You sad person.

Son of Roaring Dan

February 6th, 2012
11:44 am

The AJC is OBSESSED with Nick Saban

bucket

February 6th, 2012
11:44 am

Some of you Bama fans are hilarious. Your coach is a great coach and he is certainly on top of the collegiate football world right now. But why can’t you be intellectually honest and just say he screwed this situation up? Instead of blaming this situation on the millionaire head coach you blame it on 18 year old kids, or the SEC, or the AJC, or Auburn, or UGA, or whoever. Saban looked these kids in the eye and told them one thing to secure an early verbal and then he looked them in the eye and told them something else to save face. That doesn’t diminish his accomplishments as a coach, but it did cost him a little in the credibility and integrity department and hopefully he will try a little harder to not allow himself into that corner again.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 6th, 2012
11:44 am

Cry me a river sport… Nick will keep on beating the sheet out of the Gators as well. You people or weak at best. No wonder obama got elected.

Knee injury truth teller

February 6th, 2012
11:45 am

True enough. Philon hasn’t even had the surgery to repair his knee yet, the injury is worse than previously thought, and so Saban just asked him to delay enrollment to give him time to get the knee repaired and rehab. No way in hell Philon would be full speed by summer. As for the rb it was the same thing. The thinking is that he would not be at 100% by the time summer came around so it was better to defer enrollment.

I guess FACTS don’t matter with the AJC muckrakers.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
11:45 am

@hvacigar “All I see on this board is a bunch of fear, fear of Nick Saban and Alabama. ”

All I see from Saban apologist is the willingness to win at all cost. Corrupt to the core. Anyone who doesn’t lick Saban’s balls can see it clearly. So much for the fine institution of higher learning at AL. Does Saban teach an ethics class there for players?

glenn

February 6th, 2012
11:47 am

scandal? Was someone stealing? Oh wait, yes! The University of Alabama came in to the state of Georgia and out worked, out recruited the home state Unversity. Yes, that is indeed a scandal. Great reporting people. You just may win a Pulitzer for reporting this scandal. You are truely a great American.

SMace

February 6th, 2012
11:47 am

It is always fun to listen to the Auburn fans rip on Nick Saban. If he were their coach he would be a hero. They had a “Pastor” as the father of a great qb who went to their school and he was selling his son for $200,000. Did not hear any evil about that. Coach Richt is a great man and fine coach and Georgia should be proud of him. It is a shame though that they cannot keep their players out of jail and on the team so we could see what he could do with a full team. As for this article – well he is an AJC writer and, at the same time, he should stand up for his school. Success is great, but it is entertaining to read all of this stuff about people jealous of success.

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
11:47 am

@Knee injury truth teller

Philon hasn’t even had the surgery to repair his knee yet, the injury is worse than previously thought, and so Saban just asked him to delay enrollment to give him time to get the knee repaired and rehab.

Who pay’s for it? Philon would have if not for KY. If AL had honored their commitment to this young man, AL would have paid for it and his rehab. Low life scum from AL.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:47 am

Funny thing, in 2002 or 2005, when bama sucked and we won the SEC, it never crossed my mind to go get on a bama blog and brag about how much better we were.

Difference in a UGA man and a redneck bammer with “just too much bammer in ya” like Updyke?

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
11:48 am

@Plain and simple solution don’t make me come out of my trunk now!

ROLL TIDE

Bama fan

February 6th, 2012
11:48 am

Bucket,

Saban probably could have handled it better but the reality is that neither of these 2 players were going to have their knees 100% by the time the summer rolled around. And the truth is that he was still honoring the scholly committment. He was just asking them to delay enrollment for 6 months due to the scholarship crunch and more importantly because neither one of them was going to be at 100% on their knees. For Pete’s sake one of them hadn’t even had his knee surgery yet and its already February.

secbama

February 6th, 2012
11:48 am

gadawgs and other Bullpup crybabies…I used to root for you twirps in the SEC East because I dislike UT and Florida so much. However, your hypocrisy and double-standards amaze me.

Richt dismisses/cuts players just like Saban. He plays more game in recruiting than Saban does (remember the Isiah Crowell simulation/huddle deal showing they needed a RB?).

Saban will cherry pick your state again and pluck Reuben Foster and Robert Nchemdiche. Jordan Jenkins made a big mistake by choosing the Dawgs over the Tide. We will pound you in Georgia Dome next season…can’t wait to spank some puppies.

Son of Roaring Dan

February 6th, 2012
11:50 am

Bucket: I don’t disagree with that but this media storm over here is hilarious. If Saban really hosed these kids by asking them to rehab 4 months and come in in January, then he will pay. If like Tomlinson says, Alabama recruits in the most straightforward way of any school, then it probably won’t hurt. The reality is like most schools several kids will end up with grade issues or whatever and Alabama will have slots open for both Taylor and Philon in August but by jumping like they did they gave up a shot at coming in August — with the worst case being January.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:51 am

@Plain and simple solution PLEASE tell me what’s corrupt. Did Saban break any rules? No. Does the grayshirt policy only apply to Saban and Alabama? No.

The problem isn’t with Saban, Alabama, or Alabama fans in this matter. The problem is rival fans, “journalists” (and I use that term loosely), and other media members not actually doing a little research before they open their mouths or let their fingers get carried away on a keyboard.

People need to quit whining about this situation. No one took anything away from either of these kids. Their opportunity to come to Alabama under full scholarship was still available until they signed at different universities.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:51 am

You are trying to justify “delaying a scholarship commitment to kids who most likely can not afford to pay for college?

This jsut gets better and better.

Bama fan

February 6th, 2012
11:52 am

DawginLex,

Maybe you didn’t but lots of other dawg fans did. And just an FYI if I had a dime for every time a dawg fan wrote during our down years “you’re irrelevant” or “Bama fans living in the past” then I’ld be a billionaire. As a Bama fan whose lived in Georgia the last decade and can tell you I heard all the crowing from the dawg fans in the early 2000s. To say you guys didn’t talk the big talk is to deny that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Tree Killer

February 6th, 2012
11:52 am

The bad news, nothing on here means anything

The good news, nothing on here means anything

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:53 am

secbama

Show me one single example where Richt did anything like this to any of his recruits

You can’t

DogSTILE

February 6th, 2012
11:54 am

“Dogmom” you sound like a “soccer mom”. Are you sure your kids don’t place soccer so they wont get hurt? Does your husband suffer from “low T”?

Bama fan

February 6th, 2012
11:54 am

DawginLex,

There is not a damn thing wrong with delaying entry for 6 months to allow them time to get their knees stronger. These kids still had the option to attend Alabama. They just would have had to wait an extra 6 months. Somehow or another you seem to gloss over the fact that they still could have attended Alabama- just on a delayed basis. The truth doesn’t matter much to you dawg fans does it?

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:55 am

bama fan

then you seem to understand that you weren’t always great.

Why don’t you pass that word along to wet willie and others?

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
11:57 am

Who was going to pay for it bama fan?

There WAS NO OPTION TO STILL GO TO BAMA

There was no scholarship

The only option was to sign elsewhere because of $$$$ for tuition

Gloss over that

Bama fan

February 6th, 2012
11:57 am

Dawginlex,

Dude. Richt offered a greyshirt last year. Do you not remember that? If was in the AJC.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
11:58 am

It’s not even 6 months…it’s 4. The opportunity to even come in at normal time was still there because we aren’t sure if there’s going to be academic casualties or not.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
12:00 pm

@secbama you seem to forget you have to win your division to get to play in the SEC title game, a feat you were unable to get done last year. Bama fan you actually admitted Saban may have been able to handle this issue better…..major kudo’s most Bama fans can’t make that leap.

Dawgs back in ATL!

February 6th, 2012
12:01 pm

DawginLex – we’re all guilty of silly crap. What he said about putting Crowell in the I formation while we practiced is true, AND it was a violation.

I don’t care anything for Bama or Saban, but I’m one of those Georgia fans who chooses to stop bitching about other schools and how they do things and focus more on how we do them and how we win. Truth is – and very few Ga fans want to admit this – Saban really hasn’t done anything wrong. Trying to impress your morals and ethics on someone (ppl you don’t even know) is silly.

Let’s worry about things in Athens and winning the East. History shows if you get to Atlanta AND win, you usually get to play for the whole thing. Let’s worry about that.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:01 pm

I don’t remember the circumstances of the ONE grayshirt for UGA. I guarantee you it didn’t involve being misled.

If the kids want to enroll in the fall, Bama was no longer an option because there was no $$ for tuition.

If the kid was promised a scholarship and had it taken away, that is wrong

You can spin it any way you want to and carry on with your “we are bama” and “you are a jealous whiner” crap all you want to.

Bottom line is it is misleading and wrong.

SMace

February 6th, 2012
12:01 pm

Did not know this was a Dawg blog. Thought is was an AJC blog. Not really bragging how much better Bama is, just stating facts. All colleges in the SEC and other major conferences recruit very much the same. It is just that Alabama’s success makes people furious and they just want to get on line and criticized and rip. Not sure why Dawg fans thing Alabama fans are ignorant. When my wife and I went to see Bama play in Athens the Georgia fans kept calling us hicks, red necks, asking us when we started wearing shoes, and on and on. Sat down and one nice Georgia man turned and welcomed us with the comment that “you red necks will be leaving at half time the score will be so lopsided.” In order to not get beat up we did leave at half time since the score was about 32-3 or something like that with Bama ahead. No way I was going to wait and let the nice Dawg fans abuse my wife any more.

Tree Killer

February 6th, 2012
12:03 pm

Shcolarship limits were put into effect to make college football more competitive. Bear Bryant, John McKay, Darrell Royal, Ara Pareseghian, Bob Devaney, Bo Shembechler, Woody Hayes, would have 120-130 players on scholarship. This would lessen the pool for the other schools. Some coaches have figured out how to circumvent the process legally. It helps some, hurts some. Spurrier, Saban, Meyer, and Pete Carrol all knew how to do it legally. So did Houston Nutt, Rich Rod, and Fullmer. If we want to change it out make sure that you can only recruit 25 a year and have 85 on scholarship at any one time. Make it run football year and not calendar year. I’m sure we will see some changes to tighten the rules a bit. Remember, they made UGA quit using the Hope Scholarship as they could get an unfair benefit fromthat. Imagine that UGA, Tech, and Ga State could recruit unlimited players! Fix the system and the coaches will comply. Don’t fix it and we will continue to have this lollygaggin around and whining.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
12:03 pm

Now I can clearly see why the SEC championship game was moved from Birmingham to Atlanta.After that Krystal incident in New Orleans and reading the comments from bammer fans I see why no one wanted to go to Alabama..

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:03 pm

SMace

So UGA is the only place with bad fans?

Go sell it somewhere else clown

Hamad Meander

February 6th, 2012
12:05 pm

I find some of the antics described in the comments to be questionable…..i.e. if a kid is offered a scholarship, he should be extended that offer should he stick to his commitment. However, a kid can change his mind up to the point of signing and sending in those papers, so what outrage is directed towards a high school kid when he says one thing and does another? Alabama is an easy target here, but other schools will yank a scholarship if a kid even VISITS another school. Alabama offered these kids a scholarship, but one a semester later. Seems reasonable if they are recovering from injury to ask that they wait to sign.

Look at the kid Kiel from Indiana – LSU yanked a scholarship (supposedly) from another QB so that they had room for Kiel – he committed, then signed with Notre Dame. These kids that were asked to wait a semester before enrolling at Alabama were immediately offered by other schools. Full Ride. What’s the punishment in getting your college paid for, even if it’s not your first choice. I wish I had my tuition completely paid for anywhere!

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:07 pm

“Richt went on to differentiate between this practice and being upfront with a player about greyshirting, what it entails and what it means for a player’s scholarship opportunity. Richt told the crowd that he has at least one player greyshirt in each class.”

Just the facts folks. Apparently here is Mark Richt openly telling his own fan base that he greyshirts “AT LEAST ONE PLAYER IN EACH CLASS”

Think I’m lying. Here’s the link. Now STFU and go sit in the corner you jealous, pathetic, whining losers.

BOOM!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/georgia-mark-richt-continues-crusade-against-oversigning?urn=ncaaf,wp1586

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
12:07 pm

@SMace

I witnessed UGA students spitting on Bama players as they got off the buses in Athens to enter the stadium. The student section of the stadium overhangs where visitor players enter the stadium. Was the most embarrassing and rude gesture I have ever witnessed in person.

Robert

February 6th, 2012
12:09 pm

LOL what a joke. Dawg mom why don’t you ask Dell McGee at Columbus Carver high school why he banned the fine Christian man Mark Richt from recruiting at his high school? You see, because the fine Christian man isn’t above such things himself. What a bunch of hypoctrites. You know what, these kids might have been told to wait until next year, but guess what it’s a only a few months and then they could have enrolled. “He had his world pulled out from under him” huh? Philon still had a scholly. He had other options too. And he chose to exercise them. So did Taylor. Someone please explain to me how “their worlds were pulled out form under them?”

Having your world pulled out from under you is losing your job when you are a single parent. Having your world pulled out from under you is being told you have 6 months to live. Having your world pulled out from under you is losing everything you own in a freaking hurricane and ending up relocated and homeless. If this is that devastating to these guys I quite frankly fear for them going forward because I don’t think these guys are going to be able to handle the adversity that life has to offer very well. And please spare me the “they’re only 17 year-old kids, what about the children BS”. These kids manipulate these coaches all day long, then get up on stage and put together some ridiculously over the top hat and glove show.

As for the “scandal” itself and I’m using the term only because you did. Because no one else is talking about this. Like I said you guys need to look into the mirror of the program you serve. The fine Christian man has done just as much and conitnues to. The fine Christian man dumped Justin Taylor like a sack of trash after he tore his knee up. At least Saban stuck by him. So get off your fantastical high horse and realize that you are just like everyone else. Not an ounce better. Then maybe the University of Jawga will be ready to move forward. Instead of just launching jealous darts at a program they envy.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:10 pm

“Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
11:42 am
@bigtime

“Actually it wasn’t a felony (Less than 21 grams marijuana that was his buddy’s = misdemeanor) and he wasn’t an Alabama player. It was Dre Kirkpatrick, an ex-Alabama player that had declared for the draft and was no longer a part of the team at the time of his arrest”

So he broke bad 1 week after leaving the team? What was buried while he was on the field for AL in the 2011/2012 season? Your response is typical of AL fools who want to win at all cost. An “ex-Alabama player”? Does this mean he never played at AL? Or does it mean once you played and can’t be anyone, you don’t give a damn. We know the answer don’t we. You sad person.”

No, that means that was no longer a part of the football team…an in no longer on the depth chart. He’ll always be a part of The University of Alabama and the state of Alabama. He helped the dynasty that is Bama win 2 national titles while you dawgs were getting your teeth kicked in week in and week out on saturdays. That seems like an obvious fact, why can’t you figure that out? Are you that simple minded?

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:11 pm

dawginlex,

Why were you complaining earlier about Bama fans coming onto what you perceive as a “Georgia blog”. No sir. Its a college recruiting blog. Not the UGA blog. And also the topic is a Georgia sports writer trying to slam Alabama as the topic. Why shouldn’t we be able to comment when the topic is Alabama on a blog which is clearly not the georgia blog???

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:11 pm

Hey look, I can post again! I thought I had been banned for spilling some UGA kool-aid.

bucket

February 6th, 2012
12:11 pm

@ Bama Fan & SOARD – thank you for reasonable responses. The problem with offering a greyshirt was that these kids had been committed for awhile. If they still needed rehab ( and obviously they do) they should have been given redshirts, not greyshirts. The Taylor kids coach stated that no one in Justin’s family had ever graduated from college and he was afraid that if Justin delayed his enrollment he may never actually go to college. I have no problem if a coach gets in on a recruit late and offers a greyshirt. But when Taylor was told by Saban that he was the 26th commit when in reality he was the 7th commit, that’s a problem.

Robert

February 6th, 2012
12:11 pm

Enter your comments hereLOL what a joke. Dawg mom why don’t you ask Dell McGee at Columbus Carver high school why he banned the fine Christian man Mark Richt from recruiting at his high school? You see, because the fine Christian man isn’t above such things himself. What a bunch of hypoctrites. You know what, these kids might have been told to wait until next year, but guess what it’s a only a few months and then they could have enrolled. “He had his world pulled out from under him” huh? Philon still had a scholly. He had other options too. And he chose to exercise them. So did Taylor. Someone please explain to me how “their worlds were pulled out form under them?”

Having your world pulled out from under you is losing your job when you are a single parent. Having your world pulled out from under you is being told you have 6 months to live. Having your world pulled out from under you is losing everything you own in a freaking hurricane and ending up relocated and homeless. If this is that devastating to these guys I quite frankly fear for them going forward because I don’t think these guys are going to be able to handle the adversity that life has to offer very well. And please spare me the “they’re only 17 year-old kids, what about the children BS”. These kids manipulate these coaches all day long, then get up on stage and put together some ridiculously over the top hat and glove show.

As for the “scandal” itself and I’m using the term only because you did. Because no one else is talking about this. Like I said you guys need to look into the mirror of the program you serve. The fine Christian man has done just as much and conitnues to. The fine Christian man dumped Justin Taylor like a sack of trash after he tore his knee up. At least Saban stuck by him. So get off your fantastical high horse and realize that you are just like everyone else. Not an ounce better. Then maybe the University of Jawga will be ready to move forward. Instead of just launching jealous darts at a program they envy.

RealTalk5

February 6th, 2012
12:12 pm

I understand the way this looks and i’m not a Sabin fan but this should show that in the end college football is a business. These kids were asked to gray shirt because they got injured during their Sr. year. If they were brought in they would have been redshirted any way plus the expense of making sure they see doctors, rehab and other medical expenses. Its like trying to find insurence with a pre-extisting condition. Its unfortunate but looking at it from the University standpoint I can see why he made the tough decision. BUT…he could have handled it better for sure.

jj

February 6th, 2012
12:12 pm

Alabama and the entire coaching staff are a bunch of over-rated, lucky, self-aggrandizing, jacka$$’s. They don’t give a d*#@+ about their players, or their commitments to individuals, All they care about is winning and championships.
By all rights they should not even have played for the NC. Any school that does not win their division should not be allowed to play in the NC. They did not outplay LSU, they just got lucky.
These kids hoping to go to UA because they’re the “#1 team” need to realize when you deal with the devil, that’s who you end up playing with on the field and in the locker room.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:13 pm

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
I don’t remember the circumstances of the ONE grayshirt for UGA

Dawginlex,

I just provided evidence including the link from Richt himself saying that he trys to greyshirt “at least one player each signing class”. I’m sorry if FACTS bother you.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:15 pm

@Tide Rising….It’s no use, these DAWG fans aren’t interested in facts. If they were, they’d know that their team just isn’t any good. They like to live in a fairy tale world where they are the only program that doesn’t do wrong. Even though their coach just committed another NCAA violation by mention JHC before he signed with the team…They are cheaters

Dawgs back in ATL!

February 6th, 2012
12:15 pm

I don’t think DawginLex understands the grayshirt and how it works

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
12:15 pm

@jj

Just going to let this bait float on by. Good try, though.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:16 pm

“They did not outplay LSU, they just got lucky”

Really? We did not outplay LSU? We just got lucky?

Bama had 384 total yards to 92 total yards for LSU says different. Good grief son LSU didn’t even cross the damn 50 yard line till midway through the 4th qtr. And then we promptly pushed them back across the 50 yard line with a couple of sacks. They couldn’t even score a point son. What planet are you living on boy?

bucket

February 6th, 2012
12:16 pm

@ Tide Rising – again the problem is not greyshirting. If Saban had offered Taylor and Philon a greyshirt from the get go we wouldn’t be reading about this in the ajc. The problem is a coach overoffering and taking too many commits and then trying to force commits to take a greyshirt or find somewhere else to go. That’s what happened to Taylor and Philon despite the spin to the contrary.

Special K

February 6th, 2012
12:18 pm

13 pages!!!! Keep it coming haters!!!!!!

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:18 pm

By the way, where is that story about Mark Richt committing an NCAA violation with Josh Harvey-Clemons on the AJC? I can’t find it anywhere….

RealTalk5

February 6th, 2012
12:19 pm

UGA fans don’t be fooled. They all do this. Some get more publicity than others but all of these coaches over recruit. If you dont believe me go on rivals and see how many kids UGA offered and count the number of available scholorships. They have to do it. If they offer 10 kids they may get 3 to sign. So they over extend to make sure they can fill their allotment for that year. If any coach is telling you they dont over offer they are LIEING.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:19 pm

bigtime,

I would have to agree. The facts seem to be ignored on here. And the facts are that both players had serious knee injuries and did not have their schollies yanked. They were simply asked to delay enrollment for 1 semester to give their knees extra time to rehab. One player hadn’t even had his knee surgery yet.

yellow hammer

February 6th, 2012
12:21 pm

the ajc likes to spin any BAMA news.so i would like to see the spin on the al.com article on LESS MILES maybe the next SABAN victim . i/e bowdon ,tubberville,myers.so whos next richt

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:21 pm

I used to root for Bama as my second favorite SEC team behind the Dawgs. But after having to see all their gloating since they got good again makes me dislike them as much as Florida. Most of us Dawg fans don’t really care what you do over there. You got a good thing going right now so cherish it. Not even the biggest fools of you can forget what it’s like to be down which was just a short time ago. And most of you know these things run in cycles. Shut your pie holes and play football. I’ll line my team up against yours any day. Wait, you didn’t win your division so you didn’t get that chance this year. You should thank us for showing how LSU could be beat as our first half proved. We just didn’t have enough athletes to finish the drill this year. We’ll have our day and may it be at your expense. I’m thinking 2012 SEC title game, that is if you can win your division this time!

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:22 pm

bucket,

Wrong sir. These 2 players had severe knee injuries which certainly changes the picture a bit. The rb thought he “might” be ready by the summer but it was doubtful he would be. As for darius philon he had a knee injury and hasn’t even had the surgery yet to repair it. You don’t play or take chances with a knee injury. If you need extra time you take the extra time to make sure its fully rehabbed.

Bama 14

February 6th, 2012
12:23 pm

Georgia fans are the worst in the nation, when coach Richt is winning everything is great when he has a bad season everybody is ready to run him and his coaching staff off.Two national titles in 5 years. Saban gets results and Richt gets 9-3 seasons. Don’t judge one person when Georgia has one of the highest player to convict ratio in the nation.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
12:23 pm

Facts are not allowed on here just rumors, hearsay, I had a dream last night, the guy at the liquor store said, in my opinion …..Blah.Blah.Blah
ROLL TIDE

Special K

February 6th, 2012
12:24 pm

Agreed Tide Rising but we have people on here that refuse to see the real story here.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
12:25 pm

@bigtime lets see CMR comments on a kid that had an hour earlier committed on live TV that he was going to sign with UGA and that is the same as a kid getting told that the offer he had been promised for the better part of a year was being deferred for a year? your a real peach you are…

bucket

February 6th, 2012
12:25 pm

Come on Tide Rising – these players did have their 2012 Signing Day schollies yanked. Saban offered to sign a piece of paper that they could come next year, but they DID NOT have an offer any longer for 2012. In my opinion the injury thing presented the perfect excuse for Saban to do what he would have done anyway when push came to shove. Do you think he would have stuck by Justin Taylor if the choice was between Taylor and Yeldon? How much of a chance do you think Philon would have had if Saban would have had to decide between a healthy Philon or either a healthy Tomlinson or Kirven?

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:26 pm

I understand the greyshirt process. UK has greyshirts.

My point is that richt operates up front with these kids he recruits

Do you see a kid slamming Richt like Saban gets slammed???

That is the difference

Now you can resume calling me a whiner

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:28 pm

@WDE… Did you watch the celebration after the BCS national championship game? It was great…good times.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
12:29 pm

The only place I see Saban getting slammed is on the AJC………………Hmmmmmmmmm……….

Captain Obvious

February 6th, 2012
12:29 pm

It’s sad that the UGA program is so bad the AJC has to invoke the Bash Bama and Saban principle to give people something to talk about.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:29 pm

Justice,

If only football were a 30 minute game. But it aint…

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:31 pm

Bama14, you guys run off coaches like the plague. remember Bill Curry? How many 10 win seasons did he have? Not good enough for you and your memories of the Bear. Heck Franchione left because he knew he could never please you people. There’s been whining in Tuscaloosa since the day Stallings left until you got Saban. I guess that’s why your so quick to label everyone who questions your school’s techniques as whiners. You got so much experience with it yourself.

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:33 pm

Rising, look here son. Did you not read where I said we didn’t have the athletes to finish it up.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:33 pm

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:34 pm

Dawginlex,

Moving the goalposts I see. first it went from Richt doesn’t greyshirt at all to now richt does greyshirt but is upfront about it. FYI in the past there has never been a bama recruit complaining about being greyshirted. It was always explained upfront. The difference in these 2 players is that both had knee injuries which certainly changed the picture late, especially when it became apparent that neither of them is going to be at full speed when the summer rolls around. If you were being honest then you would admit that that sorta changes the picture- a lot.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:38 pm

Justice,

Good god sir. What in the hell do franchione, Curry, etc. have to do with 2011 or this topic on greyshirts? Or with the price of tea in china for that matter? Reaching son. You are realllly reaching.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
12:38 pm

@bigtime yeah I watched it and the look on Les Miles face was priceless his expression just screamed….”In what world do I have to play a team for the NC that I already beat and couldn’t even win their division?” Yeah good times…

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:39 pm

Bear, who else is going to report on it. the Auburn Plainsmen? A decent size paper in Bama ain’t gonna say anything about Saban. It’s probably against the law in that state. So the AJC writes about it. You know why… because look at all the comments it gets. Again, I don’t care what Bama does. Saban has a right to run the program the way he wants to run it. But you fans need to learn how to win with a little class. Heck, learn from your coach by watching the way he conducts himself with class on the field. I thought Auburn was something else in the trash talking area last year when they got a taste of success. But you guys are just like them. Most be something in the Hooch’s water when it crosses that boundary line.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:40 pm

bigtime,

One does wonder how the hell you lose to a middling big 10 team that we beat 49-7 last year.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:41 pm

@WDE… That’s funny because the BCS trophy looks the same as the one in 2009 when Bama did win their division, and the SEC. With you being a Dawg fan, would like for me to post a picture of it so you can see what one looks like? I’d be glad to, just let me know.

Special K

February 6th, 2012
12:42 pm

I’m glad so many people are worried about BAMA. If we were 0-11, this would not even make the back page. We’ll keep winning and you just keep complaining.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:42 pm

@Tide Rising…Having Mark Richt making game decisions is a good way to start :D

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:42 pm

Tide, I’m responding to bama14 who said UGA wants to run off Richt after a bad season. I’m making the corollary to your fans tendency to historically want a new coach every time you lose a game to Auburn.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
12:43 pm

01 Hawk:

I have a plan that COULD secure your future financially.

Bet all you have and all you can get your hands on, mortgage the house…………OOPS………….the singlewide and your retirement money(assuming y’all have retirement in Red Elephant Country). Bet it ALL that Brice Ramsey signs with the RED ELEPHANTS. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:43 pm

There is a kid up here who got a full ride to Samford for basketball(female). She blew out her knee 4 weeks ago but Samford honored the scholarship.

What would Saban have done?

My point remains the same.

Act with honesty, honor and integrity. When you say something, mean it.

It ultimately is all about $$$ because most of these kids can’t pay for college without the scholarship, that’s why waiting to enroll is not an option. They must go to a place that will pay tuition.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
12:43 pm

“A decent size paper in Bama ain’t gonna say anything about Saban.”

Justice,

Lemme help you out with your reading comprehension skills. The article above cites 2 bigtime Al sportswriters writing in ALabama newspapers who were critical of what happened- Mike Herndon of al.com and Kevin scarbinsky of the birmingham news. You stand corrected. You are welcome

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
12:45 pm

@ Justice 12:42 pm post;

LMAO!!!!!!!! Good one………….

poochkiller

February 6th, 2012
12:45 pm

Saban wins National Championships…. the Uga pup work a lot harder to win the SEC East…

If Saban was at UGA you wouldn’t be complaining. It’s obvious you’re good win the great fans of uga continue to fill all their articles about how evil Saban and BAMA is….

ROLL TIDE !!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
12:46 pm

@bigtime sure send it and do me a favor include a copy of the latest NCAA probation papers Bama got I’ve never seen any of those either.

Jay

February 6th, 2012
12:48 pm

I think I might be talking in vain here but here goes…Admittedly I am a Bama guy, but I offer this as a means of providing perspective that my UGA brothers might not have. I think this situation is more of a function of the state of the UA program. BL we are loaded to the gills and can afford to be selective. I certainly can understand others points of view but let’s think for a second. How much of an issue is this. Both of these individuals were hurt and could use the extra time to heal. Bama has quality players 3 deep at every position. It was highly unlikely that these two would have seen the field next year even if they were not hurt. The gray shirt really has the same impact as a red shirt minus being on scholarship for the fall semester. They can enroll in Dec under scholarship or at their own expense in the fall. Either way they don’t get to play in 2012. They both needed time to heal and would benefit from the extra year to develop. Saban didn’t rip they hopes and dreams out from under them as many would like to overdramatize. If these guys would have remained committed, they would have gotten the same opportunity as every other kid. These two and any kid that red shirts next year would be competing for PT in 2013. You can make this a drama or “scandal” if you want, but that just not accurate. Be honest with yourself. Is this about a perceived scandal or the fact, that in all likelihood, Bama will continue to be successful at your expense.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
12:49 pm

Are we back to Mark committing violations again? He just recentley committed one you know, but you don’t want to admit it do you? He’s a dirty cheat, a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
12:50 pm

@ Justice:

The word “Class” has also been outlawed in Red Elephants Country.

Justice

February 6th, 2012
12:52 pm

Well tide, if that’s the case then fine. However, that doesn’t explain why the Bama fans on this blog are claiming the AJC is targeting their program and adding in trash about UGA while they are at it. if what you say is correct then the AJC is simply passing on a report being made in your own state. Go complain on those blogs!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
12:54 pm

@Tide Rising did your really type “2 bigtime Al sportswriters “? Come on admit it it had to have looked funny when you re-read it .

Logic

February 6th, 2012
12:54 pm

Really?! You really think Alabama and Nick Saban are the only one’s guilty of this? Really?! Not everyone makes the team. Alabama is an elite program that not everyone is good enough to play for. Same thing happens in the NFL, and most of those guys have families to provide for. When you’re not good enough, you get cut. Saban at least had the decency to offer the opportunity to gray shirt, albeit the equivalent to an NFL practice squad, it’s still something. These kids also now have the chance to be stars in less elite programs when they would have likely been lucky to even get in the Alabama rotation in their first few years. Companies downsize, trophy wives get replaced, and sometimes you just don’t make the cut…welcome to life!

P.S.
How can anyone watch five minutes of Mark Richt speak and conjure up words like “good Christian,” “honest,” or “proud?” More frequently I find myself using words like “arrogant,” “lackadaisical,” “mediocrity,” or even “slimy.”

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:54 pm

Jay

You said exactly the same thing I have said.

“Enroll at their own expense”

THEY CAN’T AFFORD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have to sign elsewhere after being promised a full ride to Bama.

THAT is what I have a problem with

Damaged Goods

February 6th, 2012
12:55 pm

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
12:56 pm

Logic, we can tell you are a UGA hater and not too bright if you watch Richt speak or meet him in person and come away calling him slimy.

Not too bright a light bulb are ya?

Jay

February 6th, 2012
12:59 pm

Dawgin. Not what I said. They have options. they can enroll and apply for Student loans. If they are financially challenged, then they are more likely to qualify for federal aid. BL they still get a scholarship its just delayed. THey still get the oppertunity to play at Bama. Again not as dramatic as is being let on.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
12:59 pm

I think Mark Richt runs a fine program. Rodney Gardner is the one that is head of your recruiting, that might be a good place to start culling!
Just a thought

Justice

February 6th, 2012
1:00 pm

Jay, we understand grey shirt. I’ll be the first to say that UGA fans should worry about our program and not yours. However, if your team comes to recruit in this state and if he happens to not be truthful to our athletes then that does become our problem. He can do whatever he wants in other states and honestly, I don’t vilify Saban. He plays within the rules and I have no issue with that. I do have issue with having to read insult after insult about my school on this blog because your coach is engaged in a recruiting tactic that some seem to think is questionable. Again, Bama has struggled for the better part of 20 years until Saban came on board. Your school has been hit heavy with NCAA penalties and was a second thought in the West for most of that time. Much as LSU was before Saban got their . He left and they got luck to get Miles but your run will end and we will be beating you again like we have 3 of the last 4 times we’ve met.

Home Depot Weasel

February 6th, 2012
1:01 pm

Saban is Yankee trash!

6IML

February 6th, 2012
1:01 pm

Justice,

I beleive the point is that no paper in Alabama regularly carries stories about UGA regardless of what you guys are doing. On the other hand, the ajc, the largest paper in southeast (I think), reports that Saban is cruel to boogers everything he blows his nose. BAMA is relevant.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:01 pm

Jay

BULL

Go from getting afree ride to play football at Bama to applying for student loans they can most likely not afford to pay back?

BULL TO THAT

If you can’t be honest with me, especially to my kid, I want no part of you.

I don’t care how many dam titles you win

Birmingham Jacket

February 6th, 2012
1:04 pm

Richt is 3 and 1 against Saban!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
1:06 pm

@bigtime so CMR is a “dirty cheat” ? So your telling me the NCAA is only smart enough to catch Bama “cheating” as CMR’s program has never been on probation in the 11 years he has been at UGA.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:06 pm

Facts are, When you are on top like we are then the other schools go on the attack…If you can’t beat us on the field and you can’t beat us at recruiting then you lower yourself by attacking the way Bama does business (as if you know)…We have been dominate and when you are people take shots at you and that is ok by me…I love where our program is and I love even more that the Dawgs can’t get there because of their supposed high moral character….Believe me, if they could have our success then they would jump at it and deep down they are just jealous…It is normal to be envious of what Coach Saban has built here in Tuscaloosa but when you find yourself personally attacking the Coach, the school, and their fans it just comes off that you are bitter with your own school’s lack of ability to build a winner…I was born in Georgia (Atlanta) but have lived most of my life in Tuscaloosa and it comes down to this…If you want everyone to be your friend then just be average because when you are a winner people will do or say anything to try to bring you down to their level…Roll Tide

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:06 pm

Let’s just agree to disagree

I want a coach to be honest and mean what he says

Bama fans are happy with a coach who promises things and then does not keep his word.

Sounds like win at all costs mentality to me.

Riddle me this:

How come John Calipari is never accused of this?

He has the #1 rated recruiting class EVERY YEAR and is #1 ranked and will most likely win UK’s 8th national title.

Maybe Calipari is more honest than Saban???

Could it be??

:) :)

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:07 pm

@ Jay:

You can paint it any color you want but it still boils down to the recruit taking a year of their life off to do nothing thereby delaying their advancing through a very important period of their youth development or they can just reach into their pocket and pay for that year of schooling. I’m certain all those recruits have that kind of money. If you think your halfa$$ coverup, feelgood explanation fools anybody NOT a Red Elephant fan you are much dumber than I first thought(Which was already pretty dumb). You won’t see that disgusting lowlife action going on at UGA as long as CMR is there.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
1:07 pm

@DawginLex you answered your own question and the question that all parents and students athletes should ask themselves. If they don’t feel comfortable about going to a school then don’t end of story. No one is drafted to participate in any college athletics the last time I looked.

westlakefootball

February 6th, 2012
1:08 pm

well looking at all this SEC fan fighting lmao

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:08 pm

the Bear

Doesn’t change the fact that Saban misleads these kids

Logic

February 6th, 2012
1:09 pm

DawginLex,

I am not by any means a “UGA hater.” I sincerely want UGA to become a better program, and as long as UGA fans keep settling for the mediocrity that is Mark Richt, that won’t happen. The guy is an excellent recruiter, but he does very little with his talent. Tell me Nick Saban wouldn’t have won a national championship with Stafford and Moreno in the backfield. As far as Richt being “slimy,” I’m sorry, but there is one particular commercial that used to run constantly here in Georgia where his demeanor is just absolutely terrible. That is the picture of Richt that I have, and no matter how many needy kids he adopts, I won’t be able to look past his demeanor. He just doesn’t seem to care enough to be a coach in SEC. Maybe he’s a nice guy, but I just don’t see how he can be on so high a pedestal.

Just Saying?

February 6th, 2012
1:10 pm

I’m trying to figure out when UGA fans will stop making their criteria for a head coach be a “good Christian man”. I thought the point of football was to win games? UGA fans call for Richt’s head until he manages to pull off a so-so season, then you guys jump back on his bandwagon for another year before he proves that, once again, being a “good Christian man” doesn’t make you a good coach.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:10 pm

Birmingham Jacket…Richt may be 3 and 1 against Saban but he is 0 for 0 in getting to National Championship games…Bama has won two out of the last three BCS Crystals and Saban is the only coach to have won three of them…Have your insignificant stat….I will gladly take the guy who gets to and wins the BIG games….

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:11 pm

@ Bama Guy:

” I have lived most of my life in Tuscaloser”.

What are you being punished for???????????????

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:15 pm

We all want Richt to win a title

There are very few of us who want him to do it by lying and being a fraud of a person

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:15 pm

Braniac….Again, a loser trying to tear a winner down…You need therapy my friend…

Logic

February 6th, 2012
1:16 pm

@Just Saying

Exactly. If you want to settle for mediocrity, Mark Richt is you’re guy. If you want to be an elite SEC program, find a coach who cares.

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
1:16 pm

“He has the #1 rated recruiting class EVERY YEAR and is #1 ranked and will most likely win UK’s 8th national title.”

DawginLex,
Not gonna happen! He’s never won one before and I don’t expect him to start this year. Currently, Billy “The Kid” Donovan is the only hoops coach in the SEC with a NC….make that TWO!

Dawg Fud

February 6th, 2012
1:17 pm

Unfortunately, just watching this video makes one realize that this young man only has football. I could not understand a word he said. I hope he lands on his feet.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
1:17 pm

@Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life) can I use your 1:11 post in the future that was a major good one!

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
1:18 pm

@DawginLex

John Calipari has had wins vacated at two different schools during his career without being implicated by the NCAA he was ran out of Memphis. I don’t think I would use him as a standard of running a clean program. But he does know X’s and O’s and that is what I want my coach to know and that leads to winning.
Roll Tide

Scooter

February 6th, 2012
1:18 pm

UGA fans are not only losers who cheer for a loser university, they are idiots, too. ROLL TIDE! Kiss my #$%&* DAWGS!

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:20 pm

Beast

Have you watched this team?

They will DEESTROY florida tomorrow night.

They are scary good.

I would not bet against them

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:20 pm

@ Bama Guy:

Richt has a better won/loss percentage than ANY other SEC HC. If he kicks Saban;s a$$ 3 out of 4 head to head matchups who, other than trailer dwellers you, is to say CMR wasn’t a better coach than Saban at least in those 3 games???????????

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
1:20 pm

Scooter,
Very classy. Way to represent the Bammer nation. Now, go back to tea-bagging your brother.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:21 pm

Calipari didn’t do anything wrong either time. Camby and Rose cheated

Cal left Memphis on his own. They were begging him to stay

There are a lot of similarities to bama football and UK basketball

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
1:24 pm

DawginLex,
Yeah, I’ve watched ‘em and they probably will beat my Gators tomorrow. But watch out when they come to the O’Dome! That said, Coach Cal still hasn’t proven he can win it all….no matter how much talent he has. He’s had virtually “all-star” type talent everywhere’s he’s been due to his recruiting prowess, but he can’t win the big one.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
1:25 pm

@DawginLex I wouldn’t deny that! They both just win! Good point!

Roll Tide

G-Dawg

February 6th, 2012
1:26 pm

The plain fact is….Saban offered these kids a scholarship….then pulled them. No way around it, no matter how you want to spin it!! The greyshirt offers and promisary notes were only to save face with the general public!!!

Logic

February 6th, 2012
1:27 pm

@DawginLex

Correct Alabama Football and Kentucky Basketball are very similar in that they are two of the most storied programs respectively, and both programs have administration and fans who accept nothing short of championships.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 6th, 2012
1:27 pm

My only question is which program is paying for this article…UGA or AU

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
1:31 pm

Having been around Bama football fans and UK hoops fans many times between the SEC championship games and the SEC hoops tournaments, I can tell you that the UK hoops fans are much worse. MUCH WORSE. I have never seen a more arrogant group of people in my life. Yeah, Bama’s got ‘em too, but as a percentage…..not even close.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:31 pm

Braniac….The two Crystals in Tuscaloosa says he isn’t a better…..I purposely mispell your username because I can’t possible use the word brain when addressing you…

Logic

February 6th, 2012
1:32 pm

@G-Dawg

You’re right in saying that there is no need for a spin here, although it would seem the AJC found one to be necessary. The fact is: this is life, and these kids are becoming men, so why face reality now. Not everyone is good enough for everything. People lose jobs. People get divorced. And players most certainly get cut. Welcome to life.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:34 pm

@ WDE:

Anything for a fellow dawgie(but I don’t include you inbreds with negative UGA posting)

North Campus Trash

February 6th, 2012
1:34 pm

GLad to see that MC or his editors finally removed “Saban’s Boy” reference in the title.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:35 pm

If you Georgia guys or girls think Tuscaloosa is a loser town then what would that make Athens? I can’t remember you guys winning anything but Gymnastics and we took that away from you too?

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
1:38 pm

Beast

The UK fans at the SEC tournament represent about 70% of the crowd. It’s like a home game for UK so of course it will be seen as obnoxious for a gator………………

They travel better than anyone.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:40 pm

@ Bama Guy:

“I can’t POSSIBLE use the word brain”

Is that all you got??????

Did you intentionally misspell “possibly” also?????? I really seriously doubt it.

I’m thinking Single didit I Q for you sonny.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
1:40 pm

You play college football to get a degree and win games. Bama is one of the best in the country at doing both…UGA? Not so much.

seriously

February 6th, 2012
1:42 pm

All this “rhetoric” from a fan base of Dawgs that once supported Bernie Madofs soon to be cell mate in Mr. Donnan! Ever since Jam Kemp opened her pie hole UGA has been insiginificant. Face the facts UGA, the SEC has won 10 of the last 20 NC’s and UGA is no where to be found in that lineage!

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
1:43 pm

Braniac:
Did you intentionally misspell “possibly” also?????? I really seriously doubt it.
I’m thinking Single “didit” I Q for you sonny.

Didit? Sounds like you suffer from the same ailment?

Logic

February 6th, 2012
1:43 pm

@ Brainiac

Maybe take it down a notch with your stance on typos. You misspelled digit in your rant, just saying.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
1:46 pm

@DawginLex I think the knock against UK this year and for that matter a lot of Calipari teams are they are so young. He gets great talent, but come tournament time teams with seasoned juniors and seniors tend to give him trouble. He has a high turnover of players which is not a bad thing just tough to get a system in place.

Dawgs back in ATL!

February 6th, 2012
1:47 pm

For the record, I don’t hate Bama or Saban. I’m going to continue to hold Richt to a championship level though. Facility-wise and with access to great players, we’re in just a good a position to win a nat’l title as Bama is. We need to hold our coaches and program to that standard.

Bitching about Saban and Bama is an utter waste of time. Right now, it doesn’t matter if the scholarship rule is 25, 20 or 15. Saban has them in a position to be attract and develop the top talent in the country.

Time to quit bitching, my Dawg brothers.

hangman

February 6th, 2012
1:48 pm

Why hasn’t the NCAA already looked at this? BAMA too important?

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

February 6th, 2012
1:49 pm

Do you Dog fans recall that Nick Saban allowed Coach Richt to be able to attend the Bama vs Clemson game so he could see his son dress for his 1st college football game? (By rule no coach can attend a game that has a team on their schedule). I have been a fan of Bama since 58 and I wanted to play for Coach Bryant but I wasn’t good enough but I did get to play college football at a smaller college. Football isn’t for everyone and even in 68 the 1st day we had 130 for the mile run but for the 1st dame we had 68 on the roster (LOL). The change from 28 to 25 (still the 85) limit has changed the game and not for the better for some better players will fall to lesser teams and that is the intent and that is bullshit. The “lets play everyone two innings” not to hurt anyones feeling is about as bad as the Great Slacking LBJ Great Society. Get started early in life that business rules and avoid the rush later. Raise your standards and compete and skip trying to talk others down to your level. This morning in T-town there were 100 plus guys lifting weights at 5:30 AM… what was your team doing? STFU until you beat someone that has beat somebody…Gene Stallings.

Beast from the East

February 6th, 2012
1:52 pm

DawginLex,
Last year it appeared to be about 85% UK fans. Yeah, they do seem to hate the Gators worse than any other school. I’m sure that’s due to UF’s recent success, along with Billy Donovan turning down their offers. I did meet a number of great UK hoops fans, but I’m telling you it seemed like about half of them were just total horse’s a$$es.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
1:52 pm

Well this blog has sunk to new all time lows, we have now stooped to talking about basketball…oh the horror !

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
1:57 pm

@ Bama Guy:

TOUCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

T

February 6th, 2012
1:59 pm

the only scandal is the journalist writing this drivel. What rules are being broken……none. both kids were offered delayed enrollment….thank your own president for the 25 man rule that will only hurt the student athletes…how do you plan on replacing the last 4 or 5 crooks y’all kicked off the team. get back to your own mediocre mess…..

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
1:59 pm

hangman

February 6th, 2012
1:48 pm
Why hasn’t the NCAA already looked at this? BAMA too important

Because no rules have been broken you blithering idiot.

Tide Rising

February 6th, 2012
2:01 pm

It is kinda funny that this newspaper reported this as a “scandal”. Um. No. Watergate was a scandal. This was about offering 2 injured players a delayed enrollment by 1 semester. Scandal? Hardly.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
2:03 pm

@T we would love to only have articles about Georgia teams in the Georgia paper, we didn’t write the article…I don’t go to a Bama papers website to bad mouth any of the Bama schools and if Bama fans stayed off the Georgia sites I would never get the chance to revile them…so thanks for stopping by, sorry I missed your and your sisters wedding last month, how’s your Mom and them?

Gallowglas

February 6th, 2012
2:08 pm

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:08 pm

6IML

February 6th, 2012
2:09 pm

WDE,

This “Georgia paper” has as many articles about BAMA and Saban is it does UGA. Yes, BAMA and Saban currently dominate college football, but the number of blog posts is the main reason for the BAMA/Saban articles.

Son of Roaring Dan

February 6th, 2012
2:09 pm

Alabama papers could not care less about Georgia or Tech or the AJC; the AJC is OBSESSED with Nick Saban.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

Brainiac….We are both passionate about our schools…I will do my best to stay about the personal attacks and we will just see what next year brings…I do think you guys have a favorable schedule and can make it back to the SEC Championship game…Hopefully, our teams will meet there…Believe it or not, I am a long suffering Falcon and Hawks fan and I do hope to see them turn it around one day (especially the Falcons)…I also love the ATL area so I am not the Homer one might think…Take care

Plain and simple solution

February 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

@Tide Rising
And then we promptly pushed them back across the 50 yard line…

Love reading how clowns like “Tide Rising” refer to AL’s team as “we”. Your big dumb a$$ wasn’t on the field. Your big dumb a$$ was watching. You didn’t contribute anything to the team. They didn’t do one thing on your behalf. AL didn’t win because of great coaching. They won because they have more good players than anyone else. See over signing. Once you realize this, you might be employable.

sam

February 6th, 2012
2:12 pm

Isn’t it amazing that all the uproar and tears about this are only coming from ga and their fans. Any of you nut jobs ever hear the name John Parker Wilson. He was offered a gray shirt and took it and I think it worked out pretty well for him. Undoubtly you dawg fans don’t have a clue about the difference between delaying entry and having a scholarship pulled. You may not like the gray shirt idea but quit acting stupid by saying scholarships were pulled. By the way, you all love richt because he is an honorable man but you were calling for his head because he wasn’t winning. So if being honorable is the most important thing to you dawgs then quit worrying about wins and just keep your current coach until he retires no matter what his record is. We all know that will not happen because you are a bunch of liars. By the way, we can provide towels to wipe away all those ingenious tears you seem to be shedding.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

Bama has taken over the entire state of Georgia! Roll Tide

Truth hurts

February 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

@Gallowglas “Yeah, thank goodness Richt woulld never do anything shady…”

CMR was at a church seminar this weekend. No recruits involved. Attended by about 150 people. No recruiting involved. He gave his testimony how Bobby Bowden shared his faith with him and converted him.

A few weeks after AL was ravaged by tornadoes in the spring of 2011, AL held their spring practice game which was attended by about 90,000 fans. A concentrated effort was made to raise funds for the victims of the tornadoes. About $30,000 was raised. That is about 30 cents a person. Yet these fools will pay hundreds of dollars to sit around and watch football. Racist to the core.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
2:16 pm

Now that it has been established that I can’t spell , I will try to stumble through a couple of things I noticed in the article.

1) Headlines = “Greyshirt Scandal”. Is this really a scandal?

2) The fake attempt to pick up the GT cap was classless at best and the keeping UGA and GT on the hook until the last minute(actually past the last minute) was as bad or worse.

3) There is no excuse for this IF everybody, especially Saban and Dalvin, are being truthful which I seriously doubt. It appears to be just as indicated in the article. Saban had another prospect committed but was injured and Saban was waiting to see if the prospect would sign with another school. That didn’t happen and the prospect was jettisoned to make room for Dalvin.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
2:21 pm

@Tide Rising hell son wait until the AJC uncovers the “real” scandal ..you know the number of “medical hardship ” scholarships the Tide hands out like Chiclets..that will really blow the doors off ! I agree there is no rules broken in either of these cases..

Otha

February 6th, 2012
2:25 pm

“A few weeks after AL was ravaged by tornadoes in the spring of 2011, AL held their spring practice game which was attended by about 90,000 fans. A concentrated effort was made to raise funds for the victims of the tornadoes. About $30,000 was raised.”

That is complete and total BS. This is pretty unreal the level of hatred. I know you’re going to believe what you want, but…dang.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
2:26 pm

@ Sam:

John Parker Wilson could afford to pay for his Grayshirt year. Most of the potential recruits definitely can’t and that is NOT the point. No one notified the ones who had been committed for approximately a year UNTIL somebody bigger and better came along and then it was extremely late or too late for them to hustle around and pick another school that doesn’t pull Saban’s smoke and mirrors crap on kids. But I’m sure that is okay with you and MOST of Red Elephant Country.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

WDE

“Hand them out like Chiclets”

Now that there is funny, I don’t care who you are!!!!!!

WDE

February 6th, 2012
2:28 pm

@bigtime I never said anything about Dre and his weed issue…

sam

February 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

WDE, the real scandal is that ga is being left in the dust by Bama and dawg fans just can’t stand the thought of it being done without breaking the rules. If you are waiting for Saban to get in trouble with the ncaa you are going to be waiting for a long, long, long time. Keep dreaming though because I know that will keep your mind off your pathetic excuse for a football team.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
2:31 pm

@ Otha:

What was the ACTUAL AMOUNT if you know so much about it.

My understanding from a reliable source is that Auburn raised almost 3 times as much as The Red Elephants tribe.

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
2:32 pm

This blog has brought out the heavy hitters. Bigtime on here slapping UGA fans around. Just like old times. Brainiac as always doing more with less than any fan I’ve ever met. That is one good dawg fan. I don’t care how many games CMR loses, my boy brainiac will be right there supporting.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
2:32 pm

pathetic excuse for a football team?

I for one am dissappointed we aren’t playing Bama next year.

RentATrent

February 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

$aban was going to offer him one of his Job$ before Taylor blabbed it in the press, let’s not forget that.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

The reason UGA loses so much is because their fans spend more time hating on other programs than they do supporting their own team. I saw a lot of empty seats in Athens last year. Thanks to Nick Saban, UGA has never been the same since the blackout. UGA, you’ve been processed. Maybe that’s why you don’t like Nick the Great?

Truth hurts

February 6th, 2012
2:34 pm

@DawginLex

“Calipari didn’t do anything wrong either time. Camby and Rose cheated….”

BUWAHAHAHAHAHH. Yeah that’s it. Even though Rose had not scored high enough to qualify his first 2 times on the SAT, he mysteriously qualified when he took it in a different city. Calipari had no idea right. Why would Saint John put it out clauses for all of the players he signed that released them from their commitment if the coach left. Only someone with under handed motives would do that.

You sad little person.

sam

February 6th, 2012
2:35 pm

the entire country knows the only reason the dawgs had a half decent record this past year was because of their schedule. truth is they played 4 ranked teams during the year and lost them all. I would call that pathetic.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:36 pm

@Blackoutanyone?…. I had forgotten just how much fun bashing these guys was. 8-)

Otha

February 6th, 2012
2:37 pm

Well, considering that A-Day was on the 16th and the tornado hit April 27th…lol…but, I’m sure your Auburn sources have it covered.

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

Who paid for the 07′ tricked out Tahoe Trent Richardson drove while at AL? Lets one one damn Tide fan to tell us who paid for the car, it’s gas and insurance. Remember, Richardson was the unmarried, unemployed father of 2 kids whose family had no money.

Can I get a Tide fool to answer the question?

RentATrent

February 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

“My understanding from a reliable source is that Auburn raised almost 3 times as much as The Red Elephants tribe.”

You dawg fans act like you’re scared of $aban or something. 3X? Really? Like there are some public figures on that? Here are some facts instead of your fabricated rumors if you ever want to deal with the truth. Ever heard of Darren Woodruff?
http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210555

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

Well I guess I would be a little irritable too if I had Chuck ” Howdie Doodle Dowdle ” reporting from the sidelines.

Hey just got my LSU American Express card. But it came with les miles and zero points.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:40 pm

UGA has the easiest schedule in the history of the SEC and Mark Richt will still screw it up somehow. South Carolina will win the SEC Least due to Richt’s incompetence as a head coach. You read it here first.

Dooley

February 6th, 2012
2:40 pm

There was a time when there was a high level of respect between these two programs. I will defend my Dawgs till the end. I have no problem with Saban and my Bama friends are good people who would never speak of UGA in the manner of these bloggers. Blogs tend to bring out the worst in people. I can root for Bama when they aren’t playing UGA and my Bama friends do the same. Heck, they tend to get as excited for us when we play Auburn as my UGA friends. Just ignore the drivel people write on here and don’t concern yourselves with Saban. We lost 3 players last week! Time to start getting ready for spring practice. We have a team that barring injuries could do something special. Go Dawgs and Mark Richt and on occasion Roll Tide!

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
2:41 pm

@sam

The Tide played 2 ranked teams and split with them.

Has there ever been a “National Champion” that couldn’t win their conference?

stingembuzz

February 6th, 2012
2:41 pm

Supersize that order, mutt
February 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
48, you tell them, and you’re a dead man. LOL

You have been found guilty….unfortunately, I did something similar after you did it. I feel dirty.

Sabanrulz

February 6th, 2012
2:41 pm

Brainiac,

It’s pretty hard to raise funds for a tornado that hit on April 27th when the Spring game was on April 16th. Sometimes it helps to research just a little before you post. LOL!!

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Can I get @BigTime or @Bama Mike to tell us how a unemployed kid from a poor family drives around his college in a $27K car?

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

@bigtime
UGA has the easiest schedule in the history of the SEC and Mark Richt will still screw it up somehow. South Carolina will win the SEC Least due to Richt’s incompetence as a head coach. You read it here first
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Ha Ha..He didnt screw it up last year.South Carolina didnt win it last year.They lost two big guns in Ingram and Jeffrey so I dont understand your logic.

AZTider

February 6th, 2012
2:48 pm

I’m drinking all the tears poured in this article and the comments. Roll Tide, can’t wait for the next Blackout. Too bad UGA ducked ‘Bama and went all Boise State with its schedule in 2012. Oh, well. I’ll settle for another glass of tears.

Bible n Bama

February 6th, 2012
2:49 pm

“Truth hurts” it’s kinda hard to raise money for tornado victims of April 27th when the A-day game was played on April 16th. Besides, Tuscaloosa was so devastated by the tornadoes, there is no way the city could have had the A-day game after the tornadoes. My friend, if you’re going to lie about something, at least use your brain and find out if your lie is even plausible.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
2:49 pm

Be happy to Inquiring Minds. We refer to it as not a car but “temporary housing”

Also to you previous question regarding a team winning the championship without winning their conference. The answer is yes. Just to name three 1) Army 2) Navy and 3) Notre Dame.

Next question.

sam

February 6th, 2012
2:51 pm

@Inquiring, actually Bama played 4 games against teams ranked in the final 25 (Penn State, Ark, LSU-2) and won 3 out of 4. In case you can’t figure it out, somewhat better than losing 4 out of 4. By the way, ga played LSU right? How did that turn out for you?

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

@AZTider

I’m drinking all the tears poured in this article and the comments. Roll Tide, can’t wait for the next Blackout. Too bad UGA ducked ‘Bama and went all Boise State with its schedule in 2012. Oh, well. I’ll settle for another glass of tears.
——————————————————-
Please explain what Georgia did to “duck” Alabama.I was under the impression that the SEC created football schedules but apparently you know something that other people dont.Please tell us how and when Georgia had Alabama removed from its schedule in 2011

Neil Young

February 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

I’m from a new land, see all this ruin, what are you doing? Alabama, you got a wheel in the ditch and a wheel on the track. What’s going wrong? You got the rest of the Union to help you along, what’s going wrong?

Oh, your focused of football. That explains why it’s so backwards.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

@Inquring… You seem like you’ve got it all figured out. Why don’t you tell me? How do you know where or when he got the car? What do UGA players drive? That’s right nobody knows because nobody cares about the joke that is UGA football.

I guess Bama needs to buy 5 star TJ Yeldon one also because right now he walks to class.

another smash piece

February 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

So let’s get this straight: a kid who gives a verbal commitment – thus taking the scholarship of another – is allowed to change his mind for whatever reason on signing day, but if Saban finds that an injury is more serious than reported (no evidence of position upgrade as alleged in article) then he has to stick by the player? WHICH HE DID in both cases – just not the way the media or the players wanted. Good grief, ROLL TIDE ROLL and screw anyone who points fingers at ‘Bama if their own house is shady (or full of thugs like the dawgs).

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

How does a unemployed kid from a poor family drive a $27K car. You remember the one he was driving when he received a traffic citation. The 07 Tahoe was registered to Trent Richardson.

Gas alone would cost $150/month. Insurance $250 per month. Who paid for Richardson’s care? Funny stuff.

The stink from AL in drifting in the wind and it’s not from the septic tanks.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
2:56 pm

@Rick James… It’s not about what USCe lost, it’s about what UGA doesn’t have, and that’s a head coach.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

The most ironic statement in the last few pages made was 3 pages back when “Justice” claimed they didn’t care anything about Bama … then spent another 9,637 words trying to “prove” it … :-)

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
2:59 pm

Shouldn’t AL investigate how one of their players drives a vehicle that they know he could not afford?

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

“Bama owns UGA” should be the new title of this article.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
3:02 pm

@bigtime

@Rick James… It’s not about what USCe lost, it’s about what UGA doesn’t have, and that’s a head coach
——————–
2 SEC Championships 4 SEC East Championships and they dont have a coach? South Carolina has played in one SEC title game.The Ole’ Ball Coach couldnt figure out how to beat a bad Auburn team at home and it cost him another trip to Atlanta.It that all you have?

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
3:02 pm

Inquiring. Those failed drug test right before the Florida game. Takes about 3-4 hours to get the results back but for CMR it took a week to confirm. I assume he sent them to Johns Hopkins for positive confirmation. But hey he did suspend them for the New Mexico State ( eyes roll back here ) game. Whats the old saying aboout glass houses. And since you want to throw stench into the conversation. I am almost positive it is from that last blackout party you guys held. Didnt work out to well did it.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

truth hurts=another internet tough talking loser who calls me a little man yet he would wet himself if he ever tried to talk to me like that face to face

another smash piece

February 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

@inquiring minds: you can’t possibly be a dawg fan and complain about a stinking program: if ‘Bama had half the thugs as the dawgs you’d say ‘Bama was the dirtiest program in college football. if you beat the dead horse about trent’s car anymore, maybe i should ask questions about the numerous arrests for members of the current dawg roster. but go ahead and launch your investigation anytime.

whatthe84

February 6th, 2012
3:04 pm

Scandal, scandal, did you say scandal? This is not a scandal…it may not be conduct to some peoples liking, but a scandal you must be joking. The Penn State deal is a scandal, the Syracuse deal is a scandal pulling a scholly and offering a grayshirt my friend is not a scandal.

hunkerdown

February 6th, 2012
3:05 pm

That’s two kids did wrong by Saban. Committed the whole time and suddenly told thye would have to gray shirt. Wrong! wrong! wrong!

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
3:05 pm

bama mike

You bringing that up again?

The university has a policy that must be followed.

If the test was a false positive(which can happen) and the player was suspended for no reason, the university sets itself up for a lawsuit.

The lawyers wrote it, not Richt.

but keep trying to make stuff up if it makes you feel better.

Kinda like justifying lying and misleading a 18 year old kid.

Truth hurts

February 6th, 2012
3:05 pm

DawginLex
February 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

“truth hurts=another internet tough talking loser who calls me a little man yet he would wet himself if he ever tried to talk to me like that face to face”

Now that is funny. Anyone who would defend John Calipari recruiting practices is a very small person.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
3:06 pm

@Inquiring Minds Want to Know

I think you struck a nerve..Maybe the Yella Wood guy is sending his money bammer now..

Logic

February 6th, 2012
3:06 pm

@ Inquiring Minds

Do you not remember Lebron’s brand new H2? It’s called a loan. When someone is going to be paid millions of dollars within the next year or two, they can take out a loan which banks on the fact they will soon be rich. In Lebron’s case, his mom took out the loan. This is likely a similar situation. Besides, look at what ANY college star drives when they are on the verge of turning pro.

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

BamaMike shouldn’t AL investigate how Richardson drove a $27K vehicle. They knew he had 2 kids out of wedlock. They knew he was unemployed. They knew he was from a very poor family with a single mom. They buried it, with all of the failed drug test.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

Heard anything about Calipari and UK doing anything illegal?

Nope

You won’t either

Try again little loser

When will you learn

February 6th, 2012
3:09 pm

It’s amazing to me the hate put towrds a school that wins. If a coach has a perfect season oh he must have cheated if a school lands a 5 star prospect that another school was after oh they paid him off. When are you people going to learn that the media basically puts words in these coaches mouth the stories are so butcherd up by the time we read them. Believe non of what you hear believe non of what you read only what you see. I think anybody with a brain sees that what Saban does with these kids once they get to the CAPSTONE is great they are made into men, very seldome do you here about Bama players in bar room fights or smoking synthetic weed or sexual misconduct I think UGA knows all about that along with LSU who recruited the kid UGA kicked of the team for sexual misconduct. Mark Richt a fine christian man go back and watch the first two games of 2011 read Mark Richt’s lips and tell me how christian he is! All I can say is enjoy the game get your head out of your buts if your coaches can’t hold a candle to Saban when it comes to recruiting.

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
3:09 pm

Logic
February 6th, 2012
3:06 pm

@ Inquiring Minds

Do you not remember Lebron’s brand new H2? It’s called a loan. When someone is going to be paid millions of dollars within the next year or two, they can take out a loan which banks on the fact they will soon be rich.

Thanks, you just described a major violation. We all know how he drove the car. ESPN and their fat contract with the SEC causes these things(see $cam gate) to get buried. ESPN has more influence than the NCAA.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:10 pm

@Rick James…. UGA cannot succeed without the major powers of the conference being down. That’s just life as a UGA fan. I figured that you’d be used to it by now, but I guess not. UGA is a second teir team in their own conference. Bama is a national powerhouse. U Mad?

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Just saying. A week huh! Ok now show us the lie that everyone keep referring to. Please 10 words or less.

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

@Inquiring Minds Want to Know wow you UGA fans have run this topic into the ground. Now let’s start on another subject. Grow up, worry about your team, or lack of one.

RTR

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
3:12 pm

Bama is a national powerhouse

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Explain 1993 to 2007

Explain about the vacated wins

Explain about how many coaches you had, including one that was fired before ever coaching a game.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
3:12 pm

@bigtime you would have to play us to “own ” us and with Saban’s pull I doubt that happens till he leaves…unless you figure out how to win your division .

Old Dawg

February 6th, 2012
3:15 pm

I can understand a school not wanting a player after an injury, but the coaches should let them know as soon as the recruit is off the board. I also understand a recruit making a change at the last moment.

Recruiting is a tough business, and we’ve created a monster with our adoration of recruits.

I don’t know the solution, but somehow I think a review of ethics or how we’d like to be treated wouldn’t hurt anyone.

Logic

February 6th, 2012
3:15 pm

@ Inquiring Minds

In what way is that a violation? It’s perfectly legal to take out a loan: see our economy. For all we know he could have taken out student loans. My tuition is paid for from grants and scholarships, but I’m not saying that the banks who gave out the loans are acting ethically, but this is America, and our legal system is built around loopholes..see O.J. Simpson.

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

Inquiring. Dude you know about his car, his upbringing, children and x-wife. Sounds like a restraining order is more in line. Did Trent not sign your autograph or are you still upset he did not go to Florida?

Logic

February 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

*but I still take out students loans to cover expenses.

Gwag Idiot

February 6th, 2012
3:17 pm

Would someone please clean my diaper and clean my rash infested fanny. I have just soiled it too many times in a row cryin over Bama being superior in every facet of the game. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

@Old Dawg I think most level headed people would agree that the recruiting process has gotten way out of hand.

atl fan

February 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

thx ajc for proving what someone said earlier, removing posts noting your bias in a blog, dirty pool, I guess you have to be a dawg fan to post here. Just sad. Regardless, Bama will be just fine. Thank you for your continued interest, i mean jealousy of the program.

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

Bigtime… Yea I’ve tried to walk away many times but these leghumpers just beg to be slapped around and its just too Damn fun. As u can see not much has changed. Just different red necks with somethingdawg as a handle. Still crying about oversigning, cutting players and stealing Georgia kids etc. Just the same lame excuses. CMR is slow to offer cause he’s particular about who he offers and UGA is still the Harvard of the south in the minds of most of these milkduds. Nevermind CMR always tries to flip those same kids after its too late or that a majority of the UGA players are academic speacial admits. Still get that one dawg fan a day… “Why don’t yall bammers post on al.com cuz this is a jawja paper” so not much has changed. I just hope they reward CMR with a lifetime extension.

seriously

February 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

did everyone forget they drive scooters at UGA but have to STEAL a helmet from a classmate in order to drive it legally….see Alec Ogletree!!

DawgByte

February 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

Mike Price
Dennis Franchoine
Mike Shula

Need I say more. In case you toothless wonders can’t read history, Georgia has won two SEC Championships and just won the SEC East. When Saban gets smacked down by the NCAA, you guys will be back to the Mike Price days.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

BTW “Justice” … you asked the following about Bill Curry : How many 10 win seasons did he have? Not good enough for you and your memories of the Bear.

Answer : Every coach Bama “ran off” for poor coaching … Curry , Dubose , Franchione AND Shula ALL had a 10 win season under their belt . In Jawja that usually gets you a multi year extension , lifetime excuse making from the “fans” and a spot in the Hall of Fame . In Tuscaloosa it means you probably need to be looking at ways to tighten your game up . ;-)

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

@bigtime

@Rick James…. UGA cannot succeed without the major powers of the conference being down. That’s just life as a UGA fan. I figured that you’d be used to it by now, but I guess not. UGA is a second teir team in their own conference. Bama is a national powerhouse. U Mad?
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I hoping you would come back with a few facts but again just mindless dribble.Its obvious that you dont know much about football because you cant talk about it.Maybe your powerhouse team can win the SEC next year and maybe even its division..

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

I hope they keep all the UGA coaches there, please! Don’t make any changes!

Roll Tide

seriously

February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

dawginlex….EXPLAIN 1981 TO PRESENT!!!
does mediocre suffice?

Dwag Clueless Homer

February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

Someone clean my diaper too. I can’t except that Bama has 14 National Titles, even if ESPN says it a 100 times. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
3:22 pm

Seriously, you forget Ogletree is on the two deep. CMR loves him and therefore alllllllll is forgiven.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:23 pm

@Blackoutanyone?…LOL. They can’t handle the truth. I cannot believe that they actually think that their sorry little football team is relevant.

@DawginLex… Explain 2 national titles in 3 years

Bammer

February 6th, 2012
3:23 pm

UGA is the only school in the country that thumps its’ chest about winning their division. That’s about as good as it gets, right Dawggies?

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
3:23 pm

@Logic

In what way is that a violation? It’s perfectly legal to take out a loan: see our economy. For all we know he could have taken out student loans.

ROTFLMAO.

Student loans are from the Federal government and are paid directly to the institution.

If Trent Richardson as an unemployed, father of 2 received a auto loan for a tricked out Tahoe, he is guilty of receiving extra benefits not available to all students. Major violation.

AL knows this and will not investigate.

seriously

February 6th, 2012
3:24 pm

my bad Bama Mike…RTR

sam

February 6th, 2012
3:24 pm

DawginLex, isn’t it amazing that with all those problems you noted about Bama between 1993 and current day they still have as many SEC championships as ga during that time period and 2 NCs to ga’s none. Guess that tells the difference between the 2 programs now doesn’t it.

Bammer

February 6th, 2012
3:24 pm

DawginLex just like the rest of the idiot Mutts. Cherry pick the years and stats to make their mediocre program seem relevant. Calling 1980!

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:25 pm

@Rick James…. Yeah, because winning a National Championship isn’t as important as UGA winning the SEC Least … UGA logic in a nuttshell. I wonder how some of you make it through life.

DawginLex

February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

According to you bammer brainiacs, you have always won.

Just pointing out the facts that don’t support your spew.

Chuck

February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

Poor Bama fans, don’t get angry for us because you’ve sold your souls. Just soak it all in, you’re going to need some great memories to hold onto down there :D

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

Two whole SEC Championships ???? woaahhh … back up … and an Eastern Division Title too ???

That’s it DawgByte … I just didn’t know how much you guys program had accomplished . For UGA that is HUGGeeee . Put a Richt bronze statue next to the life size replica of Herschel Walker’s official Smokey and the Bandit Trans Am . It will NEVER get any better than what you listed above !!!!! ;-)

Just Saying?

February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

@ Inquiring…you do realize that LeBron’s mother secured the loan…not LeBron. Check your facts, because this is NOT a violation. Stop worrying about what kind of cars football players drive and worry about winning some football games. Then, you won’t even have to find a reason to complain about Alabama (or any other school for that matter).

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

Mike Price liked the night life for sure!
Dennis Franchoine showed that having a college degree doesn’t make you smarter.
Mike Shula was in over his head
Nick Saban all he’s done is Win 2 National Titles and counting
UGA ZERO National Titles…………………..1980 was a long time ago!

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
3:27 pm

Dawgbyte…. Are you really comparing two SEC championships and an eastern division title to winning 2 of the last 3 BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS? The humor brought forth by the sheer stupidity on this blog is what keeps me coming back. Can’t beat it.

WDE

February 6th, 2012
3:29 pm

@Crimson Crush lets just jump to the bottom line on Coach Curry who by the way is one of the best men I’ve ever had the honor to meet. You do remember don’t you Bama boy that not only did you “fans” “run” him off you also tossed a brick thru is front window and made death threats against him and his family! While your dusting off those crystal footballs and taking all the credit for “demanding championships” remember ALL of the Bama story.

Truth hurts

February 6th, 2012
3:29 pm

Funny how all these Saban ball washers act as though he is the greatest coach in history. How did he do in the NFL when the playing field was level. Most teams have equivalent talent. Not so good. AL and LSU win because they have the best players. They have the best players because they oversign. It is a documented fact that AL and LSU oversigned until last year.

Which 19 players that are currently on scholarship and have eligibility remaining at AL will be ‘moved on’ this year?

Inquiring Minds Want to Know

February 6th, 2012
3:31 pm

@Just Saying?

“@ Inquiring…you do realize that LeBron’s mother secured the loan…not LeBron. Check your facts, because this is NOT a violation. ”

LeBron never attend college. WTF are you talking about?

FACT: Trent Richarson was/is receiving benefits not available to all students.

Dwag Clueless Homer

February 6th, 2012
3:33 pm

Momma, why errrbody laff at me when I wear my Dwag hat backwords? They be thankin I is a gansta dream teamer.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
3:34 pm

@bigtime

@Rick James…. Yeah, because winning a National Championship isn’t as important as UGA winning the SEC Least … UGA logic in a nuttshell. I wonder how some of you make it through life.
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You completly missed my point which is why I will say again that you nothing about about football.So I wont bother telling you that had Oklahoma State not been upset you would not have been in the game.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:34 pm

Problem is DawgInLex … even thorugh 1993 to 2007 … Bama racked up multiple SECCG appearances by winning their division … and won an SEC title .

Bama when weakest = UGA + Kentucky at their best .

Bama when normal = your current division

Bama when strongest > the whole sorry whining lot of you ;-)

sam

February 6th, 2012
3:36 pm

DawginLex, Bama has always won. Since 1960 there is not another team in the country that has won a NC in every decade except one, the 1980s.

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:37 pm

Alabama, sucks!! I mean really, have you ever been there? Sucks…the whole damn state.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:40 pm

@Truth Hurts… I’m guessing the 24 seniors and the 3 juniors = 27 players leaving .

By the way, Bama had 117 on the roster last year, not all of them have scholarships…they aren’t even grayshirted!!! OMG !

sam

February 6th, 2012
3:40 pm

Boise there is a simple solution, STAY THE HELL OUT OF ALABAMA. We don’t need or want you in our state.

Eat your heart out. It's ROLLIN'!

February 6th, 2012
3:40 pm

“Now, Alabama is the dream school for everybody. This phenomenon occurs every few years, and shifts every few years,” Rivals.com’s Mike Farrell said. “In the mid-2000s, it was USC with Pete Carroll. Every kid you talked to told you USC was the dream offer. When they would call us or text us with offers, if they got USC at that time, it was a celebration. Then it was Florida – that was the offer every kid went nuts over. Now, it’s Alabama.”

As an example, Farrell said a five-star recruit for the 2013 class, Southern Cal commitment Kenny Bigelow of Delaware, was elated last week to receive an offer from Alabama.

“They can go anywhere in the country, and they won’t win every battle, but they can go any place in the country and have a shot at a kid because the brand name of Alabama is so big right now,” Farrell said.

Otha

February 6th, 2012
3:41 pm

“…had Oklahoma State not been upset you would not have been in the game.”

That is true. Unfortunately for you, they were. Then, we were. And dominated.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:42 pm

“Rick James

February 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
@bigtime

@Rick James…. Yeah, because winning a National Championship isn’t as important as UGA winning the SEC Least … UGA logic in a nuttshell. I wonder how some of you make it through life.
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You completly missed my point which is why I will say again that you nothing about about football.So I wont bother telling you that had Oklahoma State not been upset you would not have been in the game.”

Really? Wow you are a genius. You should be analyzing games in a booth somewhere, not on a blog.

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:42 pm

@ Sam. Wish I could….Live there now. Worst place on earth….

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
3:43 pm

@ Bammer:

Speaking of cherry picking why do y’all brush off CMR kicking Grayshirt Saban’s a$$ 3 of the 4 times they met head to head. Also CMR has a better winning percentage than any SEC coach.I know. I know. It’s the schedule stupid. We don’t make the schedules but thanks to the schedulers that arranged our 3 of 4 of the above referenced butt kickings. Do they just count when Saban wins or are y’all not ashammed of such pathetic showings. Most of y’all couldn’t find your a$$ with both hands in your hip pockets. Y’all are living in single digit IQ country. Trailer dwellers all.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:43 pm

@WDE

No one did anything to Curry’s window or his bag sacking wife . It is a fiction that has been replayed to the point of becoming absurd fact to the clueless and wilfully gullible . What you will find are people , so called journalist included repeating it as folk legend .Your “good guy” Curry has allowed it to continue but he is VERY careful about popping that lie too often directly out of his own mouth . Thanks for playing ;-)

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
3:44 pm

@ Inquiring Minds

It’s called getting a loan on projected income. Happens all the time. And to bring out blatant trash such as multiple failed drug tests by Trent Richardson is pathetic. Please prove that. I really hope for your sake you’re just trying to get a rise out of people and you aren’t actually that close-minded.

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:44 pm

Evergreen, Enterprise, Clio, Opelika, Troy, Muscle Shoals… The whole damn place is nothing but a truck stop.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:45 pm

@Boise…How would you know? Your chicken poo team is scare to come to Bama to play. Sure you guys beat UGA, but so did every other decent team that has played them in the last 5 years.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:45 pm

Louisiana Monroe

February 6th, 2012
3:46 pm

Talk crap to me bandwagon Bamer fans! Louisiana Monroe owns Bama!

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:46 pm

Brainiac … do we really need to start back through statistical analysis … again and again … and again … explaining what a freaking sample size is and what the significance is to your dumba** … Really ??

Vince Dooley is God

February 6th, 2012
3:46 pm

What bout them hairy stanky Dwags 30 somethin years ago. We had ol Bucky Blue… aka stoner. We had Lindsey, (yes that was his name) Scott, and the man the myth the second coming…Hershal Freakin Walker. The one hit wonder team that will never happen again. RTR beeotches

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
3:46 pm

2007 sure seems like light years away right now, doesn’t it?

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:47 pm

Birmingham is a DUMP!!

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
3:47 pm

Boise….Now that really does suck…You are so low in life that you can’t relocate to a place you want to be….What is the problem? Are you scared you may not get food stamps, welfare or is it that you just can’t seem to get on your feet? No education? No drive to be happy? Wow…You need to stop worrying about Alabama and start figuring out why you have no options in life but to be miserable….Therapist anyone?

Philip Phulmer

February 6th, 2012
3:47 pm

I’m digging up dirt on y’all again!

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:47 pm

Montgomery is Detroit South.

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:49 pm

Mobile is a paper plant

The Bear

February 6th, 2012
3:50 pm

Potatoes’ anyone?

Bama Fans....

February 6th, 2012
3:50 pm

great tradition, but too illiterate, and too busy killing trees and teabagging other men to know how many National Championships they have.

14 is only recognized by this great mass of uneducated human debris.

One Example – Look it up Bama fans. Know that truth. As much as you cheat, you really should only claim the ones you win.

1941 National Championship- The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title.

Boise

February 6th, 2012
3:51 pm

Huntsville is about the only place I think that’s even close to decent. The rest of the state is just a bunch of trashy dirt farmers, and an occasional Craker Barrell.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:52 pm

Georgia was the “almost but we got ripped off by ESPN” national champion of 2009 . I read that on AJC somewhere . Tech … ermmm … they still have a football or two , a complete “Be Your Own Pee Wee Team” set of equipment and some folding aluminum bleachers I am pretty sure … ;-)

Bama Fans....

February 6th, 2012
3:54 pm

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

Bama Fans....

February 6th, 2012
3:55 pm

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:56 pm

add a C in CraCker and take that extra L off Barrel there “Boise” . Looks bad when your misspelled words pile up like a multi-car crash on I-75 ;-)

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
3:58 pm

Yawn … another cut and paste spammer too lazy to do their own research , typing or creative thought ….

Bama Mike

February 6th, 2012
3:58 pm

Not to rub salt on an open wound. But charges against Alabama’s Dre Kirkpatrick have been dropped. Also early freshman T.J Yelton who enrolled early has but on about 10 lbs of muscle and now most recruiting servies consider him the number 1 running back in the U.S. The good news just doesnt stop.

Jenkins

February 6th, 2012
3:59 pm

Bama is obsessed with Georgia.

Jenkins

February 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

Truth be told, all SEC schools are loser schools whose academic purpose is a sham. Maybe save Vanderbilt. The rest of you should be ashamed of your Jim Crowe system.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

No We are obesessed with winning which has NOTHING to do with Georgia

sam

February 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

@Bama Fans since you are so determined to talk about Bama championships why don’t we do this, we will only talk about championships that have been awarded since the inception of the poll system. These are NCs recognized by everyone as being legitimate. Using this criteria, Bama has 9 NCs recognized by all which is the most of any school in the post poll era. Now shut the hell up.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

Sweet Home Alabama, where the skies are so blue, Lord I’m comin home to you. Where the hell is Idaho?

6IML

February 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

The jealousy (and subsequent hate) of BAMA has reached an all-time high today. This is quite pitiful.

Daniel

February 6th, 2012
4:01 pm

I’m trying to find a link or a source that shows Saban pulled Philon or Taylor’s offer. I can’t. Everything that keeps coming up says he offered (or switched to) a grayshirt. That’s not pulling an offer. That’s asking them to delay entry by six months.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
4:01 pm

obsessed…sorry

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
4:02 pm

@ Sam:

What are you so damn proud of in that state? Only a third of the population has learned to walk upright and the only two words most have learned to say are trailer and football. Someone should have explained to the Alabama 1978 class valedictorian that it’s alright to poison someone elses trees but don’t go public bragging about it

Dmitri

February 6th, 2012
4:04 pm

Hating on your neighbor, very uncouth. Good luck.

Son of Roaring Dan

February 6th, 2012
4:05 pm

Nick Saban RULES. Now he just mindwarped the Florida police and they dropped the charges against Kirkpatrick. They simply can’t withstand Saban’s evil plan to take over the universe.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:05 pm

The fact, is back in 1642, the Santa Maria poll voted the Dwags 2 places ahead of Kentucky after the Dwags beat the little thingies in a closet. How bout that Bama fan.

Special K

February 6th, 2012
4:06 pm

Keep it coming pups! 18 pages. Did a pups loss get this many pages. lol

sam

February 6th, 2012
4:08 pm

Brainiac, this just tops them all. someone from ga making fun of someone from another state. except for atlanta, ga is as backwoods and backwards as any state in the union. you have been to ga, haven’t you?

seriously

February 6th, 2012
4:08 pm

jenkins must be a carpetbaggin fan of the big 10….the equivelant to high school football in SEC territory

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:09 pm

Fact # 2… In the year BC 0118, a Roman poll had the Dwags #1 in penis envy and #150 in football.

Bama Fans....

February 6th, 2012
4:10 pm

Sam,

I’m good with 9.
The rest of the country just gets tired of the fake ones, the tree killings, and sexual assualt of other men by you Bama fans.

6IML

February 6th, 2012
4:11 pm

The saddest part of this whole thing is that many UGA fans are genuinely anger and frustrated. While posting on this blog should serve as therapy, it’s probably just making you guys angrier.

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
4:11 pm

SEC Championships UGA 12 Bama 22
National Champions UGA 2 Bama 14

But the dawgs lead Bama in one category

Major NCAA violation cases UGA 6 Bama 4

Boise

February 6th, 2012
4:12 pm

8=======~~~~~ :BAMAFAN

TED CRISTOBAL

February 6th, 2012
4:14 pm

@0I HAWK….BAMA,TUSCA”LOOSERS”, HARRY UPDYKE AND TEABAGGERS NATION CAN WIN 14 NC TITLE OR EVEN GAZILLION OF THEM…BUT SABAN AND THE REST OF THEIR FAN CAN NEVER WIN INTEGRITY AND DIGNITY. WIN AT ALL COST ATTITUDE.ENOUGH SAID.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:14 pm

Fact # 3. In the year 1256, the Viking Super Poll had Jaw Jaw # 1 in Dream Team mental masterbation and #206 in Football, behind Vandy at #205

#1bamafan

February 6th, 2012
4:14 pm

RTR….Have a good day!

6IML

February 6th, 2012
4:14 pm

When UGA fans argue with GT fans, Atlanta is a cesspool and dump. Then, when UGA fans want to berate Alabama, the state of Georgia (including Atlanta) is so great. Without Atlanta, Georgia is North Dakota.

BamaGuy

February 6th, 2012
4:15 pm

TED—spoken like a true LOSER….

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
4:16 pm

Brainiac… “What are you so damn proud of in that state? Only a third of the population has learned to walk upright” LOL

6IML

February 6th, 2012
4:16 pm

Ted,

UGA is not even losing with integrity. How many player arrests have you guys averaged since 2007?

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
4:18 pm

Ballz licked, legs humped …. Poster of the day! LOL

Bama Tim

February 6th, 2012
4:19 pm

I wish Alabama played Georgia this fall. Alabama could use an easy game.

sam

February 6th, 2012
4:19 pm

Bama Fans, if we agree that Bama’s total of NCs is 9 due to using the post poll era logic then that means no school actually won a NC prior to the polls being used. You can’t discount Bama’s NCs prior to the polls but want to count other schools NCs prior to the polls. I have no problem as long as everyone is treated equal.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:19 pm

Super Jaw Jaw Homer Fan Factoid # 4…………
In the year of our Lord, 1732, the King Henry Poll had Jaw Jaw # 1 in the sad wannabe loser Bowl, and #823, behind Jaw Jaw Tech, #822, in Football

Trailer Digest

February 6th, 2012
4:23 pm

Athens ranked the #1 most trailer friendly town in America.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:23 pm

Blackoutanyone?… Thanks Bro, easy target, not fair.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
4:25 pm

It doesn’t matter if Bama has 14 titles or 9. When asked how many they have, they can simply say, “the most” and no one can argue.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
4:25 pm

Congrats, Michael. What we hope is the most irresponsible article of your career has gotten a lot of hits. I hope they give you an award.

Blackoutanyone?

February 6th, 2012
4:26 pm

I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. “In the year of our lord…lol

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^DORK^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

February 6th, 2012
4:26 pm

Your corny jokes are weak.

IF YOU'RE SKEERED.......

February 6th, 2012
4:27 pm

AND APPARENTLY YOU ARE & SHOULD BE B/C ALL THE NAME CALLIN’ & ALL THE LIES WANT TAKE AWAY THAT BIG ‘OL CRYSTAL BALL THAT SABAN & HIS TEAM WON FAIR & SQUARE!!!!!!!! P.S. JUST SO YOU KNOW THESE MORE ON THE WAY!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! KISS THE RINGS BE-OTT-CHEZ!!!!!

RTR!!!

February 6th, 2012
4:30 pm

This reporter has demeaned himself by writing this article. This article is a hatchet job! He has relinquished his position as writer of the best newspaper recruiting blog in the Southeast to become the official water carrier of the whiny dawg fans(lower case required). If only UGA fans could let go of their apparent jealousy and focus on building their own program… Well, Alabama will keep winning games and UGA will keep talking loud in the offseason, falling short in big games, and losing recruits to Bama.

AJCwithyetanotherhackjob

February 6th, 2012
4:30 pm

Anybody know when the last time Alabama was an underdog for a regular season game?

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
4:31 pm

I heard that last tornado that went through bammer ripped the governor’s mansion right off its wheels.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
4:32 pm

Let’s just get it out here..Had Alabama won the west which they didnt they would have had a chance to play Georgia.And granted they probably had the better team.But if Oklahoma St.doesnt lose to Iowa St.Alabama does not go to the national championship game,and since they didnt win the SEC not even the west they would have won nothing last season.A good team yes but be careful about pounding your chest because you did get a little help.Somebody made the decision to you another shot against LSU after you blew the first one..

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
4:35 pm

Alert…..Alert………………..

After extensive research at our Athens Techno Center, The IBM 3200 Super Computer found an obscure Poll from the Who Gives a Shlt bout Jaw Jaw Football anyway vault. The Dwags were ranked #1 most over ranked over hyped team of all time. Details at 5

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
4:36 pm

The only two decent places in the whole damn state of bammer are Huntsville and Florence. The rest of the state is a place that time forgot.

MR

February 6th, 2012
4:38 pm

This young man chose Bama becasue he wants to be with a historically proven winner, not some pretender(s).

Roll Tide!

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
4:43 pm

Q: If bammer is so great, why do they need Ga kids to win. Is HS football really that bad in bammer?

RTR!!!

February 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

Saban should continue to decline your interview requests and demand to speak with only the Seguira guy from the GSU blog and further marginalize you as the homer you are becoming. Are the editors pushing you in this direction or is this indicative of your true feelings? If you do believe this crap, go join Chip over on the UGA blog and leave recruiting news in the one of the country’s largest recruiting zones to an unbiased professional.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

Its amusing that after that Krystal video bama fans would call Georgia fans humpers..

Buzz in my ear

February 6th, 2012
4:45 pm

Saban is evil. Karma, you slug, karma.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
4:46 pm

LakeDawg, a Florence reference. We have a moment of shared humanity.

IF YOU'RE SKEERED.......

February 6th, 2012
5:12 pm

Mike

February 6th, 2012
5:21 pm

You failed to mention that he has to have knee surgery. His coach said at this time he still has not scheduled. Both Bama and Auburn new this. Bama offered a gray shirt and AU did not offer.

really Rick

February 6th, 2012
5:24 pm

Rick James,
I think everyone that follows college football at all realizes that if Oklahoma State doesn’t lose to Iowa St then Bama doesn’t play for the national title. You’ve said that several times so what is your point.

Everyone who follows college football also realizes that if SC isn’t upset by Auburn then UGA doesn’t play in the SEC championship game. So UGA got some help for them to win the east and play in SEC CG and Bama got some help to play in the NC game. The difference is that when UGA played for the SEC CG game they got beat down showing they really didn’t deserve to be there. However, Bama totally dominated that same LSU team showing that yes, they deserved their shot.

smells of satan

February 6th, 2012
5:26 pm

PLEASE don’t mention Tomlinson’s name again in your blog. He has shown that he doesn’t care about the people in Georgia by signing with the enemy. All those ingrates that signed with Ala over the home state teams don’t deserve one line in the blog. Out of sight out of mind.

smells of satan

February 6th, 2012
5:31 pm

RTR This is in a Georgia newspaper so the reporting should be biased toward UGA and Tech. All AJC staffers should be homers or move to another state. Anyone living in Georgia should be homers as well or move to another state. You cannot get much lower than a person born and raised in Georgia that pulls for an out of state team. Almost as bad as voting against America by voting Dumacrat.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
5:33 pm

Smells, while we’re at it, let’s also ban the mention of Aaron Murray, and you can strike Theus, Marshall and Gurley, too. Fair is fair, and this blog, it goes without saying, is all about fair.

Randy Young

February 6th, 2012
5:33 pm

What if Saban’s wife had said yes then reconsidered and said lets do it next year.

War D. Eagle

February 6th, 2012
5:33 pm

When parents or guardians let their kids entertain the DEVIL, they shouldn’t be surprised when they get burned.

yellow hammer

February 6th, 2012
5:33 pm

Tomlinson sounds smart. go to ga.tech get mugged go to uga get thugged. go to BAMA get a N.C trophy hummm.

chuck holmes

February 6th, 2012
5:34 pm

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT THESE BOYS WILL GET IT FROM SABAN SOONER OR LATER. A LEOPARD , DOES NOT CHANGE ITS SPOTS . BAD ADVISE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

Athens Tider

February 6th, 2012
5:40 pm

The post at 5:19 is way overboard and all the Georgia bloggers should be embarrassed by it. Tomlinson had nothing to do with all this but was implicated in a hatchet job by a lousy Atlanta writer. Now you have posters wishing he would die. The writer should be ashamed for bringing Tomlinson into this.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
5:43 pm

ATTENTION ALL RED ELEPHANT FANS.

BULLETIN BULLETIN BULLETIN

Nick Saban will not live forever.

That is all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RTR

February 6th, 2012
5:47 pm

You people kill me with these comments. It’s ok for these kids to spurn these schools at the last minute. Flip flop two or three times. Yet when a coach tries to protect his program he has no integrity. You Georgia people keep your god fearing coach and be mediocre. Will keep Saban and continue to win titles! Jealousy is the highest form of flattery….Thank you!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
5:56 pm

@ Athens Tider:

What the hell is wrong with you.

This child is so damn infatuated with himself that he lets GT and UGA hang on until signing morning when it was a bit late to be looking at other players. Actually he mislead GT all the way and then deliberately reaches for the GT cap before picking Bama. That is about as classless as they come. Either this egotistical cockroach deliberately did this or he was waiting for Saban to notify him his slot had opened up because Saban booted another player that had relied on his Bama committment being solid. You can use whatever justification you like but the article really was not nearly as vicious as it should have been and even you knuckle draggers and single digit IQs know this or you should NOT be allowed out of your trailers alone.

You have to be one dumb bunny to believe or hope someone else would believe your crap

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
5:58 pm

Brown Dog

I like Florence. Its a nice town and I once dated a girl from there.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
6:16 pm

Great little place to grow up, even it was dry until after I moved away.

darryl trucks

February 6th, 2012
6:18 pm

Gee, AJC is concerned with what Alabama does. AJC is trying to make somthing out of nothing once again with a school from another state. Why dont you make a bigger deal of kids that verbally commit to a school and then switch at the last second! It works BOTH ways. But i guess when the National Enquirer and The Globe have more responsible Journalists than AJC what do you expect

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
6:24 pm

I don’t know when it went wet, but there were some hoppin’ bars there in the 80’s. Maybe they were in Muscle Shoals, but I consider the Quad Cities to be one town.

Futbol Fan

February 6th, 2012
6:29 pm

I remember when the AJC wrote stories about Georgia athletics. I guess they are not newsworthy anymore. Sigh.

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
6:29 pm

darryl trucks

False equivalency. Kids will make poor choices. Adults in leadership positions at institutions of higher learning should set the example. It used to be very rare that kids changed their verbals, but that changed when the coaches decided all was fair in recruiting. So, the kids learned by example or should I say by “poor” example.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
6:31 pm

@ Yellow Hammer:

At least you didn’t erroneously add anything about getting an education at Bama. Just wondering. How much will that NC trophy buy him and his family when he comes back to Ga, to live especially after he gets injured and is dropped into Grayshirt Saban’s disposal unit. With nothing but a Bama degree he will have a hard time finding a decent job in Ga. ……or any other state including Aladambama.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
6:36 pm

Lakedawg, you’d never combine them as one if you grew up there.

Back to the thread. The key piece of missing information in all of this is what did the kids know and WHEN did they know it. It seems clear the grayshirts formally came off the hangars in the last several weeks, as kids like Tomlinson made their decisions known. If that’s the first Philon and Taylor heard of delayed enrollment, then Alabama and Saban should be ashamed.

But that’s not what I’m hearing and that’s not how Saban has ever worked before. The coach of the Mobile kid acknowledges that the gray shirt was raised as a possibility way earlier in the game.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
6:36 pm

@ Lake Dawg:

Have you no shame? Why would any male including Aladambamians admit PUBLICALLY they dated a Beehive Hairdo female from Alabama?

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
6:37 pm

Brainiac, why don’t you visit the northwest corner of Alabama, take a look around, and report back.

Your retraction should be done in triplicate.

Score Check

February 6th, 2012
6:40 pm

Coach Satan = Scum

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
6:42 pm

@ Randy Young:

Please keep all such thoughts to yourself as to Mr. and Mrs. Saban cohabitating. Nickie Boy hopefully has not reproduced an that is ALL good.

the realist

February 6th, 2012
6:46 pm

your Bama bashing shows your a 3rd rate hack that hides behind a dying newspaper.

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
6:52 pm

I would never want to be a Bama Fan… I love being a loser. Ever been to Underground ATL? Wow classy joint

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
6:54 pm

@ Brown Dawg:

When you left Florence why did you not leave the entire state or if you did leave the state why haven’t you helped get all your friends and relatives out?

Actually this is all fun and games to me and you contribute a bunch of quality stuff as does my dear friend Blackout Anyone, who has a 77″ widescreen TV either in his trailer or pickup truck. Fine dude he is( I can’t believe the boy is a native of Alabama).

Goodluck to you and yours.

BamaDAWG

February 6th, 2012
6:55 pm

Enter your comments here

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
6:59 pm

@ The Realist:

Your use/misuse of the word “your” makes you a what? 3rd rate speller Bama grad.

BamaDAWG

February 6th, 2012
7:00 pm

@01HAWK

I think you’re analysis are as uneducated just like you’re state!!! Saban is a crook and everyone knows it!! I CANT WAIT for 2013 when we play you guys again. You guys will act trashy and classless just like you guys did in 2007 when DAWGS won in nasty t-town!!! GOOOOOOOO DAWGS SIC EM WOOF WOOF!!

IL Jacket

February 6th, 2012
7:01 pm

“the story that won’t go away”

Wow, Bammers a little sensitive when the mirror is held up to them.

Rick James

February 6th, 2012
7:04 pm

@really Rick

Rick James,
I think everyone that follows college football at all realizes that if Oklahoma State doesn’t lose to Iowa St then Bama doesn’t play for the national title. You’ve said that several times so what is your point.

Everyone who follows college football also realizes that if SC isn’t upset by Auburn then UGA doesn’t play in the SEC championship game. So UGA got some help for them to win the east and play in SEC CG and Bama got some help to play in the NC game. The difference is that when UGA played for the SEC CG game they got beat down showing they really didn’t deserve to be there. However, Bama totally dominated that same LSU team showing that yes, they deserved their shot.
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Obviously if you already know as much thats fine but my comments were addressed to another blogger that didnt.However,Georgia played in the SEC championship game because of what they did on the field and they lost because they played a better team not because they didnt deserve to be there.Bama on the other hand backed into the national championship game because it was decided that a team that didnt win its conference nor its division “deserved” to be there.I’m sure you’re as tired of hearing that as I am of bama fans ponding their chests..

phil

February 6th, 2012
7:06 pm

If I understand correctly, both kids were/are injured, and could have gone to Alabama spring semester 2013….what’s the big deal?…. sounds like just something for the opponents and others to whine about. If Alabama and Saban weren’t kicking everybody’s a$$, nobody would care—-and you all know it.

yellow hammer

February 6th, 2012
7:08 pm

brainiac this has become a BAMA blog. you now have to gray shirt(come back tomorrow or move on) make your choice.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
7:09 pm

@ Blackout:

Just having a little fun Bro. How are things with you????

sports

February 6th, 2012
7:10 pm

This bunch from Alabama treats these recruits, this kid from North Atlanta for example like pieces of meat. The NCAA should be camped out in Tuscaloosa and get Saban in the other cronies in a corner.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
7:13 pm

@ Yeller Hamner:

10 – 4. Thanks good buddy.

Seriously you do a good job on here.

concern

February 6th, 2012
7:14 pm

MOMS, fathers, coaches don’t let your boys commit to SABAN. Any option preferred to being subject to Saban’s whim. History shows he will drag you along and discard you if a better commit or player comes along.
It not just this year it his track record.

RTR

February 6th, 2012
7:15 pm

You got the dream team and could not make it. You now have the ring team and will not make it. Five star recruits with two star coaching will get you three to four loses every year. I read these post and all I take from it is envy of Nick Saban. You wish you had him! It’s a great time to be a Bama fan! Roll Tide

LakeDawg

February 6th, 2012
7:19 pm

@ Lake Dawg:

Have you no shame? Why would any male including Aladambamians admit PUBLICALLY they dated a Beehive Hairdo female from Alabama?
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What can I say? She was HOT! With a molasses accent that would make you stand at attention. ;)

concern

February 6th, 2012
7:19 pm

Like some other coaches we heard about this year, he apparently reports to no one. THAT’S A BAD SIGN and says a lot about the institution.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
7:20 pm

@ Brown Dog:

Is that where y’all keep them? Northwest corner of the state huh? Are they grazing or cornfed?????????

Ballz licked, legs humped

February 6th, 2012
7:23 pm

Question…… What are Dwags good at?
Answer…….. Lickin Ballz, Humpin Legs, Smellin like dogs, eatin there on shlt

Jagged 5

February 6th, 2012
7:32 pm

Saban or not, from a coach’s point of view up until that fax comes across the line, no kid is locked in. So since the rules are what they are, a coach really should have a margin of error there in case there are last minute defections. otherwise a coach can be left with an undersigned class that he can no longer oversign next year to make up for. So then you are just in the hole. Saban realizes this and is making sure he gets a full class of contributors. If, IF, he is honest to these guys that they need to have a plan B, I have no problem with it and don’t see why anyone would. If it is a situation where Saban tells them, ‘hey I know you want to come here and we want you if we can make it work, but we may be full. Which means you’ll need to go grey to get here (or go somewhere else). But if things fall right, we’d be happy to have you’, then I have no probs with it. Thats a big IF, though. I bet it is somewhere in between…not as cold as most of you are reading into it, but not as forthcoming as this.

I think the NCAA should allow a university to take players seriously injured in their senior year and perhaps not count them against the 25 fully in some way at least in that first year. That way the school is not screwed if the player can’t reach the potential they had when the offer was made, and the kid is still able to get their shot (and proper medical care).

For those of you getting onto Dalvin for waiting to the last minute….it happens all the time. Kids want the hype for some reason. I don’t get it but it isn’t anything unusual. I would think if I was in that position I would have more class than to toy with the coaches, but it isn’t unusual unfortunately.

really Rick

February 6th, 2012
7:33 pm

Rick James, No UGA played in the SEC CG because SC lost to Auburn. Don’t try and say that Bama backed in because Ok St lost but say yall deserved it. UGA lost to SC and if SC doesn’t lose to Auburn, then they play in SEC CG. Same story just one on a national level and one a conference level. All bama fans realize that if Ok st goes undefeated we don’t get the chance to play for NC. But they didn’t and they lost to Iowa St. We are grateful and took advantage of our opportunity and now have another NC in our trophy case.

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
7:46 pm

Brainiac, your last several posts made me smile. Tell you what I’ll try to get word to Saban to go the Victory Formation a little earlier next time. We’d want folks to stick around for the halftime show. So how does 5 minutes into the third quarter sound?

DawginTX

February 6th, 2012
7:51 pm

Ask an Alabama fan what they think about ethics and the answer is “national championship.”

Ask an Alabama fan what they think about politics and the answer is “Nick Saban is the greatest.”

Ask an Alabama fan what they think about the weather and the answer is “You’re just jealous because we have Nick Saban and won the national championship.”

Alabama fans either refuse to address an issue that reflects poorly on their school, or they’re just the dumbest mouth-breathing morons on the planet.

I am sure the response will be “your school stinks, RTR!”

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
7:51 pm

Anybody interested in FACTS?

Fact: Offering a kid a Grayshirt after he has been committed for approx a year is in fact screwing the kid and his family for at least a year.

Fact: Those being offered a Grayshirt have few choices. Waste a year of their youth and career, hope to get accepted by a school he had spurned while remaining committed to Bama or pay for a year of college out of his/his family’s pocket.

Fact: Very few of these kids and their families can afford the cost of college

Fact: Saban has SCREWED these people and their families for his personal gain.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
7:56 pm

Another fact: Nick Saban > Mark Richt

Strange Murphy

February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm

Nick Saban is scum.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
8:05 pm

@ Really Rick:

Your interpretation means zero in the real world. It matters zero why you think ANY game was won or lost. UGA played by the rules and won the SEC East. Nothing you say or think changes that so save you breath
Football Expert Wannabe.

Your Red Elephants hold one record that the real football world would consider unenviable. They are the only D-1 team in history to win a NC after failing to win their division or conference. Fact is nobody was ever given a chance to do so and would have been too embarressed to accept such CHARITY,

RTR

February 6th, 2012
8:07 pm

So, Josh Harvey Clemmons commits to UGA in the morning and doesn’t sign his letter of intent until the following day. Is that’s ok with you? Of course it is because he did sign it. What happens if he doesn’t? UGA is screwed and your short on your recruiting class. Is that ok with you? Of course not and now that kid is a piece of crap in your eyes and all UGA fans. These kids flip flop and change at the last minute every year. Why can’t the coaches? They have to recruit for their jobs and Saban is the best!

So continue to be envious of Saban and wish you had him. Your right will continue to win titles and UGA will continue to be second rate. Enjoy the show Alabama will continue to put on and maybe one day you will be in our class!

Coaches

NicK

February 6th, 2012
8:07 pm

Wow, you guys are a bunch of whiny babies. The Lil Pup nation can continue to stand behind their “Good Christian Man” who happens to have more players getting arrested than any of the other SEC schools – fact. Alabama will keep winning national championships and the Lil Pups will continue to lose to teams that cannot even stay on the field with Alabama (see Michigan State vs. Alabama in 2010, then the Lil Pups in 2012). The AJC is irrelevant, and the great state of Alabama will continue to take your best players like they always have. That said this also includes Auburn. Roll Tide.

UGA FAN

February 6th, 2012
8:08 pm

Saban is as dirty as there is in the country..Karma will get him soon…he is a perfect fit in T-Town..that place honors cheating..see Mike Dubose/Bear/etc….UGA is twice the school and Mark Richt is twice the man

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
8:12 pm

Nick Saban is the champ. You can’t stand it either, can you? UGA is on the same level as Miss St, South Carolina, Kentucky, and now even Vanderbilt when it comes to on the field performance in the SEC. You guys used to run with the big ‘dawgs’ back in the day but those days are long gone. All of you dawgs seem to want to ignore what happens on the field and make excuses why Bama is everything that all of you covet in a football program. I wouldn’t trade 1 Nick Saban for 10 Mark Richts.

bucket

February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

Let’s all make a pact to not say anything ugly about Alabama, Nick Saban, or Alabama fans and maybe some of these people will just go away. For people who accuse everyone else of being whiners you guys sure have been howling alot on this blog. You complain about MC posting this blog and then you help contribute to 20 freaking pages of “na-na my school is better than your school.” Enjoy your freaking MNC and stop shooting downhill since you insist that you are the greatest fans of the greatest school in the history of mankind.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

@ Brown Dog:

You will need to run that by Blackout. I don’t make a move without his expressed approval.

Where do you live now??? I know it is in a doghouse but in Bama I assume the doghouse is also on wheels like the main dwellings.

RTR

February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

Mark Richt is a second rate coach at a second rate school. Perfect fit! Let me say this again, five star recruits with two star coaching get you three to four loses every year!

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
8:15 pm

Will Smith

February 6th, 2012
8:27 pm

Just goes to show how classless Alabama and especially Saban really are. Auburn gave 20 out of 21 scholarship players this year FOUR year scholarships. Bama gave NONE. Who is treating players like slaves and pieces of meat here?

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
8:27 pm

@ RTR:

Did you ever look into those 3 out of 4 games CMR won in head to head matchups with the great SABAN.
I’m sure you did so how about giving everybody an ALADAMBAMA explanation of how that is possible. Can we even believe that is the same St. Saban we have heard so much about?????? Then there was his flirtation with BIG BOY football in the NFL. They booted his spindly little a$$ out of Miami before you could say Grayshirt..

Was that before he perfected Grayshirting????????

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
8:31 pm

Another Fact: Nick Saban has more championships than UGA.

wayne

February 6th, 2012
8:33 pm

They were the most honest. They didn’t pester him and they didn’t bug him. That was one big thing that Dalvin liked about Alabama – that they didn’t downgrade other programs. Coach Saban spoke very highly of other programs, especially Georgia and Georgia Tech. And Dalvin, with the type of character he has, he appreciated that. Alabama didn’t play any games with him.”

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm

Bigtime:

Didn’t the Florida Bureau of Investigation just nail one of Saban’s product with a large amount of weed???

Moreno has the bucks to pay his way out but your man ain’t even made it to the draft day. What an idiot. Typical Red Elephant representative.

I’m funning. DUI is a hell of a lot worse than smoking weed but if Saban’s boy was selling then he is just as bad or worse. Nobody is lower than a Drug Dealer.

Nick Saban is Great?

February 6th, 2012
8:41 pm

If Nick Saban is so great and is such a football coaching god, then why didn’t he win diddly squat at Michigan State? Why did he have to tuck his tail and run back to college after getting beaten senseless by the pros? The fact of the matter is that guys like Saban can only thrive in places where they can browbeat everyone into submission and never has to be held accountable or have to answer any hard questions. Places like Alabama and Louisiana are ripe for guys like Saban because they have been putting up with corruption from guys like Saban for years. No one in Alabama has the gonads to call Saban on this because they are scared he will leave them to the likes of Dubose, Price, Franchione, and Shula again.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
8:44 pm

Brainiac… I know that it’s hard for you, but please try to keep up. Details regarding dropped drug charge against former Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
8:44 pm

Nick Saban is great….Yes he is.

SEC fan

February 6th, 2012
8:50 pm

All the Runt has to do is tell kids their scholly will be pulled if they get hurt. Simple as that. However, with no integrity or courage to be honest with the kids, he just leads them on till they do get hurt and then he dumps them. Real class! A poster mentioned earlier that he is in the perfect state to get by with that stuff.

RTR

February 6th, 2012
8:59 pm

THREE National Championships in nine years……enough said! How many does Richt have…..enough said!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm

@ Bigtime:

I said I was funning but that’s okay. I’ve met Bama fans that are even slower than you(Really)

Now if you will be a good boy and help RTR explain how CMR kicked Saban’s little narrow butt 3 out of 4 head to head games I will say goog night but you got to promise.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm

Brainiac…. That’s great. Does UGA have those trophies in the case yet?

Robert

February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm

Some of the Saban haters here obviously don’t even have two brain cells to rub together.

1. Both players had multiple options besides Alabama and have full rides to play immediately. Only an utter fool would regard them as somehow having been “screwed over” by Saban. Yeah, Brainiac…I’m calling you out. Even if he doesn’t go elsewhere…sit out a semester (NOT A FULL YEAR, fool)…and then have a free ride to the top program in the country…and that’s being “screwed over”? What an idiot.

2. Again, only an utter fool would fail to see through Auburn’s 4 year offers. All Auburn has to do is tell a kid that he’ll never set foot on the field and he should transfer. Any kid who wants to play will transfer. Again, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see through it.

3. We now know the truth about Philon. Vigor coach Stevenson continued to play Philon throughout the playoffs, even knowing that he needed surgery and that Philon was basically playing on one leg. Philon, as of last week, still had nopt undergone surgery yet. Yet everyone wants to throw Saban under the bus in regard to Philon.

bigtime

February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm

“Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
@ Bigtime:

I said I was funning but that’s okay. I’ve met Bama fans that are even slower than you(Really)

Now if you will be a good boy and help RTR explain how CMR kicked Saban’s little narrow butt 3 out of 4 head to head games I will say *goog night but you got to promise.”

*Irony

Fourteen

February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm

Seriously – the “journalist” who wrote this article actually used the word “scandal”? This article is as pathetic as its author is a lousy “journalist.”

Special K

February 6th, 2012
9:21 pm

20 pages!!!! Keep it coming folks. Speaks volumes for the state of your team and how far above BAMA is. Can see of no other reason for this venom.

Special K

February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm

Philip Phulmer

February 6th, 2012
9:34 pm

Did some one say “scandal”?

GT79

February 6th, 2012
9:44 pm

This is a perfect example of why we should not criticize kids who change their minds at the last minute. Schools scream and cry when they do that, but the school will do it to them in a heartbeat if they get a better player. This is big business and we should all realize that.

BPSKEGEE51

February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm

SO WHAT?? Why committs early anyway….When will the BOYS find out early committments ends up just as these guys found out…GET HURT,GET CUT?? WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD…WHICH IS WORSE GETTING CUT BEFORE SIGNING DATE OR ON THE EVE OF A SUPER BOWL???? SPORTS….THERE IS ALWAYS A BETTER PLAYER OUT THERE…

Lol@UGA

February 6th, 2012
10:41 pm

You bottom-feeders can keep whining, we will keep winning championships.

Y’all might want to stop complaining about Alabama and worry about being able to keep your players out of jail…

This is very typical of Georgia, however. Not very surprised at all.

nathan richey

February 6th, 2012
10:52 pm

Im sure you ajc guys are really tired of saban pulling all your best players out of georgia because nobody wants to go play for that non-entity at UGA, but does everything you write really have to be a hit piece? Do you not understand what a greyshirt really is? For a kid thats hurt, especially not a premiere, instant impact kind of kid, it very well could be the best thing, because you dont start the clock on your eligibilty while you are rehabbing your knee. you get healthy, still have the option to redshirt if you need further work, and compete for a roster spot. Both Philon and Taylor would get buried, Buried on that alabama roster, especially injured. Why completely waste a year of eligibility for a semester of school, during which you would not be able to do any football activities anyway? Im sick of all these crocodile tear articles about the poor kids, not because i dont feel bad when a kid gets injured, but because i dont believe for a second that you give a crap what happens to them, you just want to do whatever you can to hurt recruiting for alabama. well good luck, because we are going to take all your best players next year, and the year after that ad infinitum

Jim S

February 6th, 2012
10:54 pm

I wonder when high school prospects are going to get smart and realize that Saban doesn’t care a thing about them, but rather winning at any cost. Even Dorial Green Beckham (No. 1 rated wide receiver in the nation) said after visiting, ” Alabama is not a player friendly school” and others have stated that Saban’s door is NOT open and an appointment is needed to see him. If you check you will see an alarming number of players he has “processed” over the last five years. Players would do well to realize that he doesn;’t stand behind his players or tell the truth. Look at Auburn, who signed Shon Coleman after he was diagnosed with leukmeia and then honored his scholly. Finally, there are some strange going on at Bama again, with players switching to them after commiting to other schools and such. Looks like they would have learned their lesson after Albert Means, but memories and discretion is now lost again.

Crimson Crush

February 6th, 2012
10:55 pm

Who knew so many people from the state of Georgia are apparently deadly allergic to …. and live in terror of … nuts ?

Brown Dog

February 6th, 2012
11:04 pm

Jim S, we all wish Shon Coleman well. But he was diagnosed after he signed with AU, not before.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming number of Saban’s players love him. Some don’t, of course. But let’s go down the UGA roster and let me hand-pick some of the players who left or were thrown out? Wonder what they’d say about Mark Richt?

One last thought to share: If Alabama is so player unfriendly, how did we sign the no. 1 class — again?

The Bear

February 7th, 2012
12:18 am

I am done on this subject for the day! I am sure the AJC’s crack staff of writer’s has brainstormed (Used loosely) in the AJC war room and have dreamed up another revelation about Alabama football to post in the coming days. So to recap today’s proceedings:
UGA fans and a few GT folks are just jealous about Alabama football. Their feelings get hurt when they know they no longer control their own borders when it comes to recruiting. Using conversations with the 7-eleven guys, personal opinion, and hearsay, what their grandfather said have come to the conclusion that Nick Saban is the anti-Christ. (He’s not trust me)
The only thing you hater’s need to remember is Alabama is the Defending National Champions! Alabama is expecting to contend next year and the next and the next……..you get the idea!
1980 I think cars from that year are now considered antiques!

Score Check

February 7th, 2012
12:21 am

Coach Satan = Scum

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
12:31 am

Actually Brown Dog … Jim S took an article about DGB and changed the wording it to suit his OWN agenda .

The KEY wording he chose to change was a quote from DGBs father about being “KID” friendly … not PLAYER friendly . Everyone already knows the Tide is a place for boys to become young men … not kids . I have no problem with the things DGBs father said . It was fairly obvious his had to work hard to keep DGB in Missouri where he wanted him to stay all along :

A couple of months later, Dorial and his father took an unofficial visit to Alabama, where they met former Crimson Tide wide receiver Julio Jones, who was just weeks away from being a first-round pick in the NFL draft.

At one point, Dorial and John Beckham were shooting pool with Jones in the Crimson Tide’s players’ lounge while highlights of Jones flashed in the background on a TV as his NFL future was discussed.

“It was a pretty cool moment,” John Beckham said.

At the end of the visit, Dorial and his father had a lengthy meeting with Alabama coach Nick Saban.

“Coach Saban is on a different level basically in how he runs his program,” John said. “He leaves nothing to chance.”

Dorial’s trip to Alabama was the first significant challenge to Arkansas’ lead. It made an impression on him that lasted for a couple of months.

“He was really high on Alabama,” John Beckham said. “He was psyched about it.”

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The other Bama references in that article

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When Dorial came back from San Antonio, he eliminated Alabama, which the night before had won the BCS national championship, mainly because of the school’s distance.

John Beckham also had other concerns about Alabama in terms of his perception of the program.

“It may not be as kid friendly as some other schools,” he said.

Said Tracy Beckham, “With Nick Saban, I don’t mean this in a bad way, but it’s a business and he’s a workaholic.”

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So … the “issue” was “mainly distance” … again … the EXACT words used … and then they observed that Saban was a freak of about work . Tell the whole nation something they DIDN’T know LOL ;-)

I still love THE KEY THING DGBs dad had to say that Jim S chose to leave out while he was busy respinning his words into a “DBG said” lie :

… “Coach Saban is on a DIFFERENT LEVEL basically in how he runs his program,” John said. “He leaves nothing to chance.” ….

complete article below so others can read it and not just have to depend on the lies the Jim S types try to spin out of it :

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Dorial-Green-Beckham-inside-the-chase-for-nations-top-recruit-020112

5150 UOAD

February 7th, 2012
12:56 am

The story that never ends.

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
1:08 am

Another Fact: Nick Saban has more championships than UGA.

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You can basically throw a dart at any bronze statue outside Bryant-Denny and hit more achievement than you can find by scouring 120 years years of Jawja football . Hit the right one and you blow past nearly 370 combined years worth of “achievement” by UGA/GT AND AU all rolled into one . Is it any wonder they are highly hacked off that one of the statues is still walking and breathing … and coaching ? ;-)

Leavon Thrasher

February 7th, 2012
1:14 am

Screw the AJC.. I hope Coach Saban never answer them… All they will do is take what he say and turn it to what they want it to say… ROLL TIDE!!!! and Georgia Bulldogs, win a title and stop worry what we are doing in T-town…

DawgFan

February 7th, 2012
1:30 am

As long as people continue to feed off pond scum then they will continue to post articles. I mean guess how many articles that they have run challenging CMR about all of his players that he has had to kick off his team for gettting into trouble. I can tell you that it is not many.

14Tide

February 7th, 2012
2:31 am

Even if all you haters were correct ( I don’t think you are ) then kids should’nt be able to flip on signing day. Sounds stupid don’t it ?….same deal though. And……
for all you Dawg fans that thinks Richt should be” Knighted by God ” himself are either hoping this can catch you a 2013 recruit or you’re just stupid….show me one team whose head coach and all of his recruiters have’nt put their school as the best choice for the kid they’re talking to and I’ll show you a man who won’t be in this business long. Richt is’nt any different from ALL coaches !

GT fan

February 7th, 2012
2:52 am

DT showed how much class & integrity he has … and it isn’t much.
And the Crawford & Adams kids are even worse. And neither are rated close to DT’s – who is only a 3 star, 78 rated player.

Karma has a weird way of working things out.

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
3:41 am

Yeah … we know … we have already heard what it takes to be “classy” to a Tech fan … commit to Tech .

One Techie already posted a link to an article in another comment section about a “classy” kid who flipped to Tech from Vandy … totally screwing the Commodores at the very last second . He then neve gets a shot at a playing career at Tech because of medical reasons .

“Classy” and “karma” all rolled into one fat and ‘classy” Georgia Tech story … is that where you get your ideas about bad juju and “karma” causing problems in recruiting ? ;-)

Satan Sabin

February 7th, 2012
5:32 am

Why do you think they call me Satan? I’m the scummiest, lyingist, coach in the NCAA and these dumb players continue to believe me,lmao>

Satan Sabin

February 7th, 2012
5:36 am

Hey Leavon, did you finish the 7th or 8th grade before Satan Saban hired you,lol? Your grammar says the 7th.

BBQ MAN

February 7th, 2012
5:50 am

face it SEC football, all schools, is DIRTY!!!!!

Integrity

February 7th, 2012
6:10 am

It’s no wonder that some of these SEC schools to the west of Georgia are winning so many championships. They have completely sold out to the “win at all cost” philosophy; even if it means playing students who have been dismissed by others for moral reasons, or stacking their numbers and then cutting players when better/healthier ones surface. When coaches are not even questioned by their local medias in regards to such practices, what else is quietly taking place that we don’t really know about? Could another player’s father possibly be acting as an agent for his son? I guess we may never know since the NCAA quietly “closes” such happenings and brushes them under the rug. Some schools are getting slammed for breaking rules while others just seem to be given a free leash. Sadly, I really feel that the integrity of NCAA football is at question more than ever.

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
6:33 am

The writer below was directing his article towards the lazy slackers boohooing and crying foul in the Big Ten … but he just as easily have been talking to the whiners of AJC ;-)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=mh-huguenin_national_signing_day_coaches_drama_021512

Brown Dog

February 7th, 2012
6:38 am

Nobody on this board, be it a fan from Georgia, Tech, Auburn or Alabama, or even the author of this article, knows when UA first brought up the gray shirts with these kids. Based on Saban’s past policies, it almost certainly wasn’t in the last weeks before NSD. It may have been finalized then, but it had been discussed before.

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
6:40 am

Ironic really … that Meyer … who Saban drove to a complete nervous breakdown and out of the SEC … is considered a demon from H*** to the creampuff staffs in the Big Ten LOL . Good stuff :-)

Crimson Crush

February 7th, 2012
6:47 am

Yeah … have to agree Brown on the”signing day surprise” spin this writer and his whining minions have to to put on the story ..

The articles coming out of Arkansas seem to clearly indicate earlier heads up in Philons case at the very least . When a coach for the Hogs was recruiting Philon weeks prior because of his possible grayshirt with Bama … there isn’t a person around that can convince me that an Arkansas coach somehow knew more about Philon’s recruitment than Philon knew about Philon’s recruitment .

GTJeff

February 7th, 2012
7:29 am

Crimson Crush, it comes down to doing things with integrity, which NONE of your MNC winning coaches has never had ESPECIALLY that piece of feces Bryant.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
7:53 am

@ Bigtime:

Typical Bama response. Answer a question with a question.

farmerjoe

February 7th, 2012
8:06 am

The only reason this is still around is becuase the AJC sports writers are like a bunch of high school girls gossiping all the time. Get over it–your taking potshots at the National Champions isn’t going to make UGA and CMR any better. It just keeps reminding them of how Bama keeps taking the top recruits out of Ga and UGA can’t do anything about it other than to whine on the blogs along with the writers. Jelousy apparently comes in all forms!!

Sick Naban

February 7th, 2012
8:26 am

Ha Ha Ha I always get the last laugh. I am a midget but I get the last laugh. I am a lying scoundrel but I get the last laugh. I don’t care about the kids but I get the last laugh.

You can catch the next Sick Naban show in the Ga Dome and we will be laughing. You folks are clueless. You want to win then you better do it my way and learn to laugh.

WDE

February 7th, 2012
8:28 am

@farmerjoe sorry but if Saban can’t “stockpile” players anymore it would clearly level the playing field, if the NCAA allows players to sign LOI’s when offered all this goes away till then Saban will continue to stay just inside the letter of the law as he has been…its really not whining just to be whining.

@ GT fan

February 7th, 2012
8:39 am

Just curious, but do all the kids that have flipped to GT at the last minute over the years have “class & integrity?” I seem to remember a kid that was committed to UGA for a full year who magically decided to flip to GT on Signing Day since his grandmother mysteriously decided that he should remain closer to home over night (yeah right). His name was Calvin Johnson. Classy?

moven

February 7th, 2012
8:45 am

Tech fans are pure garbage. They gleefully crucify any kid that doesn’t want anything to do with their dead football program and gutlessly label them “thugs” or “gangbangers” when they are smart enough to commit somewhere else.

Keep in mind this is the same trash that was ecstatic about Quincy Carter committing to their program, the same QC that ended up playing at UGA after several years of minor league baseball. Had he gone to Tech these same hypocritical nutrags would have proclaimed QC a NASA scientist.

Brown Dog

February 7th, 2012
8:47 am

Since the Alabama point of view has not been included in any of these “gray shirt scandal” stories, Nick Saban is portrayed as The Villain. Life’s more complicated than that. Evil geniuses are found in Austin Powers’ movies, leading comic books and this blog.

Sorry, I just realized that the last two items are redundant.

sam

February 7th, 2012
9:58 am

A key fact that these dawgs seem to ignore is Tomlinson actually said Saban was the only coach that was completely honest with him. Guess that wouldn’t make a good horror story for people from ga so it is totally overlooked. Congrats to dawg fans for their bogus holier than thou attitude and just keep on losing, you are very good at it.

schmeckdawg

February 7th, 2012
10:05 am

As a DAWG fan, I wish Saban nothing but the worst. How you can treat kids like this is beyond me. A real SCUM BAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sam

February 7th, 2012
10:10 am

Btw, I am a mighty Tech fan. THWG!!!!!!

magnola dawg

February 7th, 2012
10:11 am

to all bama fans it will be hell to pay on your recruiting this year we are going to tear u down reputation wise……………..We wont forget Justin Taylor…………Tree Killas

News | MrSEC

February 7th, 2012
10:20 am

[...] Alabama signee Dalvin Tomlinson had nothing to do with Darius Philon losing his scholarship at Bama, according to Tomlinson’s [...]

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
10:52 am

@ Sam:

Don’t let your hatred for UGA overule your brain. Just what the hell did you expect Tominson to say? That Saban lied throughout the process????( which he probably did) You may be a GT fan but you certainly are not a GT student . Maybe even a single digit IQ. Your pathetic contributions on here presents you as a Saban Pimp

I realize UGA was a longshot in the recruiting for DT but he(DT) mislead GT for the last several weeks up to signing day. Then he gets on national TV and pretends to pick the GT cap and thousands of GT fans heartrate speeds up for what. Just an ego trip for DT.. You know and I know that he waited at Saban’s instructions to see if somebody flipped from Bama to another team. Otherwise DT should have let GT and UGA know in time for them to look elsewhere.

Big Crimson 75

February 7th, 2012
10:54 am

A gray shirt does not equate to having your scholarship pulled.
It is not the same thing!
I wish UGA fans would get this through their heads!
Lay in bed with Stanley Pritchard — nice choice AJC.
No wonder the AJC is the punching bag nationally when it comes to either Sports or Politics.

cookoo

February 7th, 2012
10:55 am

Get over yourselves nerds. Nobody worth a flip wants anything to do with your program that is stuck in the middle of the hood.

Steve

February 7th, 2012
10:59 am

What a SNAKE. Save for UGA, Vandy, and maybe a handful of other schools, the entire $EC is just corrupt.

Steve

February 7th, 2012
11:01 am

St. Saban Memorial Hospital lives on. Kudos to UGA for having a semblance of decency by not oversigning and greyshirting whenever better prospects come along. LSU & Alabama are rotten to the core.

Bill

February 7th, 2012
11:05 am

Saban has no conscience or character. Glad to see the media start taking note of his win at all costs attitude. Too bad the NCAA won’t go after him for the clothes deal in Tuscaloosa.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
11:08 am

Mark Richt owns Saban the Mental Midget who left Miami uder cover of night just ahead of getting booted from Big Boy(NFL) football.

When you win 3 out of 4 head to head games you definitely own the opposing coach.

Give credit to Saban though. Out of the few losses CMR has experienced as a HC Saban beat him one of those times

Life is good in Dawg Nation

sam

February 7th, 2012
11:12 am

Brainiac, man that is a funny name for someone that doesn’t have a brain. Please don’t talk about anyone’s IQ with one as low as yours. As much as you claim I am a saban pimp you are just as much a saban hater which means your contributions as just as one sided and have no validity. I love the way you know what transpired between saban and this recruit. Again, continious proof of georgia’s envy, jealousy and obsession of anything Bama. Bottom line, we don’t care what you think about any of this and find it humorous that you losers exhibit this righteous behavior. It is just an easy way to rationalize your poor performance on the field.

Henry

February 7th, 2012
11:23 am

Guys, sam is a tech troll hiding behind Bama. Three years ago he was hiding behind UF.

Andy

February 7th, 2012
11:23 am

OMG Saban ask two commits to gray shirt. The sky is falling. The world is coming to an end. This is the first time in Div 1 football that this has ever happen. I wonder why someone didn’t think of this along time ago.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
11:26 am

@ Big Crimson 75:

If Taylor had to wait until 2013 to enroll at Bama because Saban was making room for Yeldon what choices does that give Taylor? He can start classes at Bama and pay his own way or he can twiddle his thumbs until 2013 letting a large part of his youth/life expire with nothing to show for that period. MOST recruits can’t afford to pay their own way and if they could it is unlikely they would pick Bama.

Not that Saban gives a damn but can you imagine how Taylor and his family felt when they were notified they had to wait until 2013 when Taylor had been committed for a year? If only TJ Yeldon had committed BEFORE Taylor we could have missed all this mess.

Hope all you Saban Pimps are happy with your lot in life. I am excepting my new friend Brown Dog because he did put out something anti-Saban (provided Saban was guilty)

norv

February 7th, 2012
11:37 am

Sadly it takes being a heartless, corrupt scumbag to succeed in this business.

SouthGADawg

February 7th, 2012
11:37 am

Pretty low for any parent to send their kids to pay for SABAN. He is one letter away from being the devil himself. he showed that he does not care about the kid he will lie cheat and steal to put himself ahead in life. Piss poor role model.

Janes

February 7th, 2012
11:39 am

Good for Taylor. No way should he have buckled to Satan.

nathan

February 7th, 2012
11:41 am

i wonder why nobody is all up in arms that lsu and stanford had kids who were going to enroll early, basically showed up on campus, and were turned away to give the spot to a better recruit? both of the bama kids are now on scholarship at division 1 SEC schools. they are fine. unwad your panties

Steve

February 7th, 2012
11:42 am

@Andy…greyshirting in this fashion? I can’t recall anyone being put in such an awful position this late in the recruiting process. Oh well, BUSINESS as usual at Alabama (notice emphasis on business…that’s all it is).

BTW…how about Les Miles calling out Gunner Kiel basically saying he’s “not man enough” to play for LSU? Real class calling out a 17 year old like that.

The Bear

February 7th, 2012
11:42 am

Taking a short break thought I would take a look at the UGA whipping post! And low and behold the same cast of characters spewing their personal opinions as fact and never producing one once of hard evidence as truth! Wow! We have a new UGA prognosticator schmeckdawg wishing “nothing but the worst for Saban” real classy fellow. Most of us on here are just poking fun, guess you take it personal, but feel good about that because you are not alone.

I feel sorry for UGA……………wait no I don’t you made your bed now lay in it!

RTR

vernoa

February 7th, 2012
11:42 am

It’s just a matter of when, not if Saban returns to the NFL. His ego is too huge not to try it again. And then Bama will be stuck with their own state’s pathetic crop of talent and back to being the subpar program they rightfully are.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
11:46 am

@ Sam:

Henry has you diagnosed so just move on.

You refer to me/us as being losers but you just inadvertently left out the facts that our coach, CMR, is 10 and 1 against your “so-called” team and is 3-1 against Saban The Great I pull for GT and especially when trying to keep a Ga. player from leaving the state and CPJ has a serious disadvantage in recruiting because of academics and student majors. You are Not a GT fan or student but likely an erectionally challenged, deranged individual.

Time

February 7th, 2012
11:48 am

Bama people on this blog should be ashamed. Your school and coach are taking ADVANTAGE of these kids dangling their goals in front of them to rip them away because they think they’ve found something better. You should be ashamed, but you’re Bama, so you’ll just go and kill a tree.

@vernoa – You are exactly right. About the time Saban has burned most of his recruiting bridges with this type of sleezy recruiting tactics, he’ll run to the NFL to escape.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
11:52 am

@ The Bear:

Wanna see some facts? Check my 11:46 am post.

I too am on here for fun 95% of the time, as several others are aware. I don’t know any of you people so I can’t be serious.

Have a great day.

sam

February 7th, 2012
11:52 am

Brainiac, so now we are talking history and not present day. Again, trying deflect from current mediocre, at best play. Do you really want to talk Bama vs Georgia history? I don’t think you really do. Like most, you want to selectively pick and choose the time period for comparison. A method used by losers.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

February 7th, 2012
11:55 am

@ Vernoa & Time:

After his and Spurrier’s SHOCK & AWE NFL careers Saban will probably tap Spurrier as OC.

Mike

February 7th, 2012
11:57 am

Funny how when you’re on top, everyone wants to knock you down. I love how UGA fans and AJC are all over this, AGENDA ANYONE??

Also love how UGA fans are screaming, “we have a fine Christian coach..yada yada.”

Yet if Richt was some sort of Patron Saint of SEC football why is his players constantly getting arrested while Saban’s guys are relatively trouble-free, community role models and making academic honor rolls (first in SEC)?

Saban is taking elite athletes away from Georgia and this is nothing more than UGA homerism in a vain attempt to sway guys like Nkemdiche.

Must suck to be so jealous huh Dawgs? Enjoy your cake schedule, mediocre record and “fine Christian role model.”

Roll Tide.