Josh Harvey-Clemons bringing a visitor to church? UGA’s Mark Richt

UGA coach Mark Richt is going to church on Wednesday with the state of Georgia’s top uncommitted prospect, Josh Harvey-Clemons.

Richt’s church visit will count as his in-home visit with the 6-foot-5, 200-pound linebacker from Lowndes High School. Harvey-Clemons has UGA, Florida and Florida State in a three-way tie and will announce his decision on National Signing Day (Feb 1.).

Richt, who is known for his Christian beliefs, won’t be the first college coach to attend church services with Harvey-Clemons at a small Baptist church in the Clyattville area of Lowndes County.

“[Will Muschamp] came to our regular service about a month ago; I guess Coach Richt doesn’t want to let Coach Muschamp beat him out with going to church with us,” said Josh’s grandfather, Woodrow Clemons, with a laugh.

The elder Clemons has been attending Mt. Calvary Baptist for around 50 years. It’s a popular place of worship for many former Lowndes football stars, including family members of Greg Reid (plays at FSU), Telvin Smith (FSU) and Jay Rome (UGA).

Florida's Will Muschamp (right) beat out Mark Richt to Josh Harvey-Clemons' church, attending services last month (AP)

Florida's Will Muschamp (right) beat out Mark Richt to Josh Harvey-Clemons' church, attending services last month (AP)

It created quite a stir when Florida’s coach showed up at church last month. “We gave everybody a heads up, and they were surprised to see [Muschamp],” Clemons said. “And the collection plate was equally surprised.”

Josh’s grandfather said the idea to invite the college coaches to worship was from some of the deacons. “Coach Richt liked the idea. He said he was more than happy to be there.”

Here’s a likely schedule for Richt on Wednesday night, according to Clemons: Shortly after the 6 p.m. service begins, Richt will be recognized by the minister and given the opportunity to introduce himself to congregation and make a brief statement. What did Muschamp say? “He introduced himself and said how glad he was to be there … nothing that long,” Clemons said.

After the 90-minute Bible study ends, Richt will take a few Facebook pictures and then huddle in a conference room at the church with Harvey-Clemons and his family for the rest of the night.

How important will the faith of the college coaches be in Josh’s decision? “We don’t go around quoting the Bible but we are full believers … we know that God is the reason that all these things are possible for us and Josh,” Clemons said. “It’s not important that any of the coaches come to our church, but it is important that they are believers.”

Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher desperately wanted Richt’s seat in the church pew on Wednesday night. “Coach Fisher volunteered to come to church while we were on our visit last weekend. We’d love for Coach Fisher to be there, but he can’t because it’s the same time that Coach Richt will be there. Instead we’re going to meet Coach Fisher to lunch on Thursday – probably at Cheddar’s [restaurant].”

Florida is sending a few assistant coaches to the Lowndes football banquet onThursday night. Harvey-Clemons has one official visit left to take and was undecided if it was going to be Miami or Louisville on late Wednesday night (Go here to read the story).

FSU's Jimbo Fisher wanted Richt's seat at the church pew but will meet with Harvey-Clemons at Cheddar's probably (AP)

FSU's Jimbo Fisher wanted Richt's seat at the church pew but will meet with Harvey-Clemons "probably at Cheddar's" (AP)

UGA and Florida have been the longtime frontrunners for Harvey-Clemons, while FSU caught up after last week’s recruiting trip. In fact, due to Josh’s friendships with several former Lowndes players on the team and the close proximity to Lowndes County, some are now speculating that Florida State is the school to beat in the final days.

“It went surprisingly well at Florida State,” Clemons said. “They had a lot of questions to answer. I was curious to why they didn’t pursue Josh as hard as all the rest of the schools earlier. They explained that it wasn’t from a lack of interest but that they didn’t want to get the reputation of acting like a used car salesman like a couple of the other schools. Coach Fisher wanted to get Josh down there, show him what they’ve got, and let that speak itself. We were impressed.”

How will Harvey-Clemons arrive at his decision? “We’re going to sit down as a family later this weekend, hear everybody’s thoughts and opinions, and try to guide him in the right direction, based on the pluses and minuses of each school.”

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326 comments Add your comment

clay

January 25th, 2012
3:01 am

Great…This recruiting class might end up being a disaster. If he ends up at fla st or fla. They can’t get either recruit to switch from auburn and vandy. Dalvin picks GT. Patterson picks LSU and Avery Young picks another school. It’s going to get ugly for the next couple of years after this year.

chaz

January 25th, 2012
3:01 am

I hope CMR prays for 3 more OL while he is in church.

Pirtdawg

January 25th, 2012
3:01 am

MC do you ever sleep? I’m greatful for your hard work, but get some rest. Hope Coach Richt can bring JHC to Athens, we could use his talents in the next few years.

Mike

January 25th, 2012
3:36 am

He’s a dawg people dont worry

Titletown 114

January 25th, 2012
3:45 am

This is CLASSIC Mark Richt. Pull out the “Jesus” card, kiss babies, and pray for 5* recruits. When his next trip to Hondoras? Meanwhile, Saban is pounding the streets of Atlanta only … DAYS .. .after winning the BCS to recruit Georgia’s best juniors and cutting loose commits that don’t pan out. Tireless and ruthless? Yes but that’s the difference between perennial national champs VS perennial “preseason” national champs (St. Richt and UGA). ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!

P. Bull Terrier

January 25th, 2012
4:11 am

Am I the only one cynical enough to wonder about the quote, ““We gave everybody a heads up, and they were surprised to see [Muschamp],” Clemons said. “And the collection plate was equally surprised.”

It sounds like Muschamp might have made a generous donation to the church during his visit. Now that the NCAA has closed the Cecil Newton loophole, I wonder if a college coach making a large donation to a prospect’s church could be seen as an improper benefit. I hope Richt checks to see how the NCAA would interpret a donation in the offering plate before his visit.

Stinger2

January 25th, 2012
4:11 am

Titletown 114: You can make fun of Mark Richt if you like.
As for me, a GT fan, I respect him for not hiding his being a believer and for being a Disciple for the Kingdom.

Mountain Dawg

January 25th, 2012
4:25 am

“Praise the Lord, and pass the chitlins!”

John

January 25th, 2012
5:41 am

The Tide has only been back the last couple of years or did your forget the Mike Shula, Mike Price, Dennis Franchione errors.. opps I meant eras? The Tide may have National Championships nut they are coming up short on doing it with Class….

DML

January 25th, 2012
5:42 am

How can Jimbo Fisher call Mark Richt a “used car salesman?” Jimbo, for real? Look in the mirror. He the most underachieving coach in the history of college football … OH AND HAVE FUN at Cheddar’s. Order the chicken stir fry.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

January 25th, 2012
5:47 am

FSU, “didn’t wanna act like a used car dealer”? That is a classic line, UGA coaches need to practice that one.

Baltimore Jabrcket

January 25th, 2012
5:59 am

I agree, P. Bull. On the one hand, I admire the importance of their faith and their willingness to engage recruits in places that are meaningful to them. On the other, this just feels wrong to me. At what point does the faith become simply another way to recruit and break the rules? I know this counts as the home visit but still… I was fine with everything until I read about Florida’s (apparent) donation in the collection plate, Richt’s featured role in the service, and then his team’s planned use of the church to put the squeeze on the kid. I’ve never been comfortable when politicians use churches to promote themselves–I’m,really disturbed to find out that college football coaches are using them as vehicles to pursue their agendas too.

pittsburgh George

January 25th, 2012
6:01 am

I hope the NCAA goes with them. Is this a Cam Newton situation?

Dawg Bounty Hunter

January 25th, 2012
6:02 am

Recruiting is like politics… at least Richt going to church is genuine.. because of his beliefs… Go Dawgs !!

Destin Dawg

January 25th, 2012
6:05 am

Muschamp”s ” donation in the collection plate ” is desparate.. and against the rules !

Destin Dawg

January 25th, 2012
6:06 am

Josh.. come to UGA and get coached up by Todd Grantham !!

Coach D

January 25th, 2012
6:10 am

Cynical Thought: Hope Richt “One – ups” Muschamp in the offering plate Wednesday!!! $$$$

DawgMan87

January 25th, 2012
6:11 am

I hope Richter is taking a wad of $ 100’s for the plate.

RedandBlackDawg

January 25th, 2012
6:12 am

The success of this recruiting class is hardly, solely dependent on getting this one young man. Yes he would be a nice commit, but let’s not forget, UGA has a pretty nice class right now. This young man will need to put on some mass to play LB at the college level. I realize he is a heck of an athlete, but he is still a depth get for this year, as we have a pretty solid LB corp. at the moment and he would need time to put on some muscle mass to go along with the height. Much more important I think is getting that big OL we are pursuing hard, as we need a few more of them, even though, we have 17 on board counting the three recruits we already have verbal commitments from. We have the bodies, we just need to get them ready to go, because there is not a lot of experience there. I think Coach Friend will have them ready to go for the fall.

tenn.DAWG

January 25th, 2012
6:15 am

I can’t believe Fisher would blame either his non-interest or laziness for not recruiting JHC by taking a shot at other coaches,calling them used car salesmen.Has not stopped him before.I also bet he won’t show up at a used car dealer anytime soon.

FL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
6:19 am

A used car salesman would call and sing to me on my birthday if he had the number…

Lagdawg

January 25th, 2012
6:20 am

It is amazing that Fisher brings in all of this talent but, FSU underachieves more than UGA. CMR needs to see that UGA is having a bad recruiting year and will have to step it up early for 2013. The few commits for 2013 are starting to waiver. Having problem keeping the talent level up on the O, besides the RBs. He might try hiring a new OC and that will solve that problem.

FLA gator

January 25th, 2012
6:29 am

so, in this situation it is better to not have recruited early??? or is this family enjoying the wasteful nonsense of HS football recruiting a little too much?

Buddy Landell

January 25th, 2012
6:35 am

Recruiting is an ugly game. Using religion to sign am athlete and even meeting in church. Where does it end?

pittsburgh George

January 25th, 2012
6:37 am

Playing the Jesus card again?

Navy92

January 25th, 2012
6:40 am

Looks like the deacons of that church know how to raise money. When you have a star athlete, invite the coaches to church. They have it down to a science. I guess Muschamp must have given his 10%.

Dawg48

January 25th, 2012
6:47 am

Mushchamp must have turned in his swear jar! Lol

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
6:53 am

Dawg48….

Words (no matter what they are) are just sounds that come from your vocal box….with some more socially acceptable than others……and they are nothing more. But I guess some of you think Jesus is somewhere up there in the wild blue yonder recording Muschanp in his “DO NOT SWEAR” sin journal…..and I am sure Saint Richt has never said a swear word on the sidelines….yeah boy….

Josh….come to Georgia. Richt is far more holy than Muschamp! Yeah boy.

Dawg48

January 25th, 2012
6:57 am

Tampa, get off your high horse! And take a joke!

Beast from the East

January 25th, 2012
6:59 am

I don’t know about the rest if you, but I’m ready for all this recruiting madness to be over. Can’t wait until NSD.
That said……Go Gators!

rogeriter

January 25th, 2012
7:03 am

Pittsburgh George–To true believers and followers of Christ, what you call “playing the Jesus card” is just part of their Christ-centered life. It is not something you choose to use or not use. I want Georgia to win every game…but if the choice is between winning the game and following Christ, the game becomes not so important. Fortunately, Jesus does make us choose either/or.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:08 am

Off my high horse….here we go….

Do you think Jesus played on the defensive or offensive side of the ball for the Nasereth Tigers?

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:09 am

or….

Oh, Jesus, here goes grandpa again!

Opps…..I just got recorded for swearing again!

JB

January 25th, 2012
7:09 am

Anyone see 9 recruits lined up to sign with Dawgs other than the 16 committed? How short will this class fall on numbers? And will filling out this class with current walkons, who will never see the field, help our dire depth situation? This state is loaded. Why can’t we fill it up with quality D 1 players? Yes, I’m aware the ones we have are great…..But I like to remember our tough fourth quarters when we’re looking around for a talented sub to put in….and we have none. I’ll wait and see, but don’t be surprised if we leave 5 or 6 spots left open.

FL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
7:11 am

rogeriter…

It’s not about Christ. It’s about using Christ as a recruiting tool in a setting where he has no business being…and that’s because of human error.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:12 am

Harvey-Clemons is going to be a Dawg….ignore the grandpa. Done deal, I think.

JB

January 25th, 2012
7:18 am

OK Tech, do you guys have any 2 stars types to share. They tend to play pretty good for ole Paul once they get there…….We need bodies and the headline players are gone.

1984uga

January 25th, 2012
7:18 am

I see our defense being as strong as ever next year, but our offense being somewhat anemic. Our limits will be on the offensive live & lack of depth. The inability to run the ball effectively will makes us a “pass to set up the run” offense, and alot of pressure will be placed on Murray to be flawless through the air. I’m not overly confident in Bobo’s ability to mix things up to keep top tier defenses off balance.

Did UGA have ANY gadget plays last year???

jeffrey d

January 25th, 2012
7:37 am

This is CLASSIC Mark Richt. Pull out the “Jesus” card, kiss babies, and pray for 5* recruits

He was invited to go to the church. And why bash a man for having good values, especially when it helps him relate to recruits like harvey-Clemons.

When his next trip to Hondoras?

You caveman?

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
7:46 am

Has Josh’s grandfather ever watched Muschamp on the sidelines? Has he ever read his lips during a game?

ReadTheArticle

January 25th, 2012
7:51 am

The article says Richt was invited to the church and he accepted, utilizing his official home visit to do it. Because of his faith, it makes logical sense for him to want to accept such an invitation. On the other hand, all you have to do is read Muschamp’s lips and watch his actions on any given Saturday to know that he was way out of his element when he visited the recruit’s church. Which coach’s actions are genuine and which are a stunt.

Walker, Texas Ranger

January 25th, 2012
7:53 am

Jimbo is taking him to Cheddar’s. I love Cheddar’s. If he gets the chicken pot pie, he is a Seminole

bad brad

January 25th, 2012
7:54 am

Mark Richt might be going to south GA for church tonight, but word is that today he is coming to Tyrone and Sandy Creek to see Jaquay Williams.

Blackoutanyone?

January 25th, 2012
7:54 am

Will he sing happy birthday? LOL

L A M E !!!!!!!!!!!!

Beast from the East

January 25th, 2012
7:55 am

“Has Josh’s grandfather ever watched Muschamp on the sidelines? Has he ever read his lips during a game?”

I’m sure he has. I also think he probably saw Richt call one of his own players a dumba$$ while trying to defend Grantham to the Vandy coach. And Grantham telling a college kicker to f#$&ing choke from the sideline while making a throat slashing gesture.
Works both ways, sport.

JackDennis

January 25th, 2012
8:03 am

the man is shameless

7576DAWG

January 25th, 2012
8:03 am

I just think that’s Richt walk’s the walk and talk’s the talk. I think the family can spot a fraud from a mile off and they wanted to see Mark Richt in a church setting.which is very important to Harvey-Clemons and his family. I’m sure he and Ray Drew will be very good friend’s it he go’s to Georgia.

Joey

January 25th, 2012
8:05 am

Come on, Beast, Grantham grabbed his throat in a choking gesture not in a slashing manner. The UF kicker thought it was funny.

You have to admit Will let fly a bunch of f-bombs this season, which doesn’t bother me. I like his, and Grantham’s fire.

In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing Richt let a few fly sometime, instead of appearing comatose . . .

Beast from the East

January 25th, 2012
8:10 am

Joey,
Just stating facts in response to a couple of simpletons. Watch the video. He did it several times…..not once. Classy dude that Grantham. I won’t dent he’s done a solid job, but he seems to be just one bad play away from a Woody Hayes moment. LOL!

Paul in NH

January 25th, 2012
8:12 am

The cynicism on here is breathtaking – making the assumption that the reason for the large collection when Muschamp was at the church was due to a very large donation from CWM.
Ever thought that the church letting out the news ahead of time that Muschamp was going to be there led to a much larger congregation than normal and that led to the larger collection?

Rationale

January 25th, 2012
8:12 am

Tampa Gator – He played defense and offense, and never punted.

Beast from the East

January 25th, 2012
8:13 am

Paul in NH,
Nah, that would make too much sense and wouldn’t fit their accusations.

Paul in NH

January 25th, 2012
8:20 am

Beast,
People seem to read what they want to read.

Old Boy

January 25th, 2012
8:23 am

I am always worried about FSU when it comes to recruits from that area. We haven’t had much luck going head to head with them in recruiting.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
8:35 am

@Old Boy..have to agree with you…FSU has come on strong…Also, for many of you that want to bash the coaches for going to church with JVC…READ the article….the church invited Coach Mushchamp and Coach Richt…what coach would turn that down with the family requesting it…I respect both coaches for doing that…Maybe some of you that want to hurl insults at the coaches for doing this, should try attending yourself..go dawgs

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
8:36 am

Sorry…”Muschamp”….wheres spellcheck when i need it?

Joey

January 25th, 2012
8:38 am

Beast, I kinda hope Grantham has a “crazy” moment every season – nothing bad – just a little scary to potential head coach suiters! I don’t think he would take a lateral job, but sooner or later, some AD will take a chance on him as HC, a la Foley/Muschamp.

And re those “simpletons” who think UF is gonna stay down, I think they’re crazy. Will has has enough sense to get out of his new OC’s way. I bet UF spreads the field to utililize all that speed, which is what UGA should do too. Spread the field and get the ball (pitching or passing) to your playmakers in space.

A pro-style offense (unless you have Bama’s OL) is a thing of the past.

But guess what, our AD just insured that we UGA fans will see at least 4 or 5 more years of it . . .

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

January 25th, 2012
8:40 am

Joey…you haz the stupid sport!

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
8:41 am

Joey: UGA can never utilize a “pitch” because Bobo teaches the qb to run to the rb, pointing the ball before the handoff. This creates the slowest developing running plays in football.

Joey

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

Ain’t that so, Dapo1.

Wet Willie, I don’t know what that means. Speak (write) English.

ATL Fan

January 25th, 2012
8:55 am

I would suspect any head football coach attending a church service would want to make a donation to the collection plate. This could make for a very awkward situation. What would the proper contribution be? Certainly it wouldn’t be a tithe; that would be outside of the spirit of not calling attention to yourself. Plus his tithe should go to his home church. Likewise, giving five dollars may be too modest of an amount from a man of his stature.
I would think that the church would encourage any visiting coach to not donate any amount in order to prevent any speculation that the church was being compensated for working on behalf of the recruit.

Baltimore Jacket

January 25th, 2012
8:56 am

@dawgster: I’m there every Sunday. That’s why I would have a problem with it. We have enough issues with the separation of church and state…I wouldn’t want college coaches in my church using it as a recruiting base–no matter how much they put in the collection plate. Call me old-fashioned, but that’s just me.

Big Albany Dawg

January 25th, 2012
8:57 am

…they were surprised to see [Muschamp], Clemons said.“And the collection plate was equally surprised”…

….am I the only one to read that?

BigTimeTechFan

January 25th, 2012
9:03 am

Come on Josh Harvey-Clemons, pick Georgia Tech, GT is going to win National Title and you can be a part of it.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
9:04 am

@Baltimore Jacket…understand your point completely…however, this was evidently important to the family and as the article state, the church family requested their attendance…What should coaches do..We all know Coach Richt’s Christian beliefs, and unfortunately that is used against him by some, but I will say that this would not be for the coaches to initiate, but if the family requests it, especially after developing a relationship with many of these coaches, then I don’t see the harm…i can see how some my se it, but to the families of these recruits, this can be an important connection….Believe me there are more things to worry about in this world, than whether a certain coach attended Church with a recruits family…..just my take for what its worth…go dawgs

Promethius

January 25th, 2012
9:05 am

While on the surface this sounds admirable. But I just can’t help from being cynical. Why did he not go to church with some of his less high-profile recruits? Now if the kid invited him to go to church with him, then shame me and the devil.

ugalunatics@msn.com

January 25th, 2012
9:08 am

and will he sing Happy Valentines Day after the service, why is this cr@p allowed by the NCAA?

Peach Fuzz

January 25th, 2012
9:08 am

Went to church Sunday with only a nickle in my pocket. I was down and out and feeling low as can be. When the plate was passed I reached into my pocket. When I got home I found a nickle and a twenty dollar bill buried in that pocket.

Zoli

January 25th, 2012
9:09 am

@ Big Albany Dawg:

I read it twice because I didn’t believe my eyes. I think it is funny how they included it in the article. I don’t know the bylaws but that has to be a violation!

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
9:09 am

Again..read the article folks…if the coaches that were invited to church with some of these recruits said “no”…can you imagine the backash from not only the media, but the church members and recruits family…Now…with that being siad…there is a difference if coaches are trying to use this in gaining an edge, but in this situation it appears that the coaches were asked to attend…go dawgs…Don’t think it is a bad thing for any of the parties invloved…..go dawgs

Excel

January 25th, 2012
9:11 am

@Blackout, the AJC was fair with its line of questioning to Chester Brown. If all of those questions hadn’t been asked, then Bammers like you would’ve been complaining about a perception of AJC favoritism toward UGA. And if you dont like the AJC, feel free to explore another website.

Taylor Wooten

January 25th, 2012
9:17 am

Sorry Dawg fans, he wont be going to UGA. They messed it all up a few weeks back.

bucket

January 25th, 2012
9:18 am

Read the article! The church and family invited the coaches to attend and Jimbo Fisher wanted Richt’s spot this Wednesday.

bucket

January 25th, 2012
9:18 am

@ Taylor Wooten – If you have inside information please share.

gt4ever

January 25th, 2012
9:24 am

Who REALLY cares? Nobody outside of Athens….

Taco Meat

January 25th, 2012
9:25 am

That “used car salesman” line is a bunch of crap. Fisher had other prospects in mind from the beginning and when he didn’t get them, he went hard after Harvey-Clemons. Simple as that. How pathetic is it that a coach has to bash other coaches in order to sell his program. FSU has had top 5 recruiting classes for the past ___ years and opened the season in the top 10 the past year or 2 and has done absolutely nothing.

Flo-Ri-Duh

January 25th, 2012
9:28 am

If a coach recruiting a player is invited to church is he going to turn it down? How would that look? Personally I think that all this high pressure recruiting has gone to far when Saban is seeing 13 year old kids. To much pressure. The NCAA needs to get the guts to stand up to these high pressure recruiting tactics on young kids. There is only one way to bring sanity to recruiting. Don’t allow any contact in any form with players until after they have finished their junior season of football. Breaking commitments is being common because players are pressured in to committing years before they graduate.

Right On Time

January 25th, 2012
9:29 am

Man, this recrutin’ business is UGLY. They ALL act like used car salesman. The fact that these teenagers make, or are able to get, grown men to jump through hoops is sick. Nasty cycle of behavior.

The one comment that we hear from these children or their parents or their grandparents or their coach is: “We wanted to know why they didn’t offer little Johnnie earlier, why didn’t you show us as much love as blank University?” Give me a break.

Coach Chiznik

January 25th, 2012
9:32 am

Looks like ole Richt learned this one from me, $180k check into the offering plate!! Easiest way to get around the NCAA!!!!

Truth

January 25th, 2012
9:32 am

>>>>>—————-;;–>

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
9:33 am

JB, calm down man, you are going to be fine. Take a deep breath and stop hyperventilating. UGA will sign 23-24 quality players and be fine for the coming year. If they miss on one or two, just an extra spot for next year.

Are everyone’s hopes and dreams (and view of whether the recruiting year was a success) placed on JHC simply because he is the last uncommitted big name. Reading the blogs yesterday I was advised he was too small to play the 3-4. Whatever the outcome, I am sure the losers on the recruiting sweepstakes will say how they really didn’t want the young man anyway, just like the Brown kid was trashed yesterday before the truth came out.

Truth

January 25th, 2012
9:33 am

“F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E”

UGA Insider

January 25th, 2012
9:37 am

JB, I was saying the same thing yesterday. Wait and see.. I bet we only sign 20 next Wednesday. Things are not looking good on the recruiting front. CMR has been a disaster since the “Kentucky Kiss” and the GT win.

SaintSimons

January 25th, 2012
9:37 am

monkey see monkey do!

gcs

January 25th, 2012
9:38 am

I get that Richt is going to show J H-C that he is a Christian but how long is he going to be able to talk to him at church? Is he going to make the mom stand around in the parking lot after the service?
An in-home visit is till the best way to recruit a kid.
Stupid move.

Fleischman in Chi Towns Bed

January 25th, 2012
9:38 am

Richt will take him to church….

Saban will take him to a National Championship.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
9:40 am

“and the collection plate was equally surprised.” It may not be
the numerator, it could be the denominator. Or it could be Grandpa just being a good salesman for his church.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
9:42 am

@UGA(supposedly insider)…Give it a break please…The dawgs will indeed sign more than 20…First of all Mr. Brown may still be a dawg, and we also may get a really good O-line prospect that has been committed elsewhere..he has been in Athens the past two days…so let it play out…alot of things going on that we all are not privy too…go dawgs

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
9:42 am

I know of Avery, Clemons, the JC receiver. Who else is UGA targeting? With who do they have a shot?

RxDawg

January 25th, 2012
9:42 am

““We gave everybody a heads up, and they were surprised to see [Muschamp],” Clemons said. “And the collection plate was equally surprised.””

WHAT!? There’s no way that’s not an NCAA violation.

Coach Chiznik

January 25th, 2012
9:43 am

Opinions and Ashholes!!

"Perennial" titletown?

January 25th, 2012
9:45 am

Outside of 2008 when was Georgia a preseason #1 pick?

Anyone (those jealous of UGA) can get on the AJC blog and post predictions to try to make Dog fans look bad. My challenge to you is to go on the UGA blogs (Scout, Rivals, Leather Helmet Blog) and find where 1% of posters predicted a NC in last 7 years. Will eat crow if you can do it. Even in 2008 when the media overlooked UGA’s line problems and focused on Stafford and Moreno, you would not find an abundance of true Dog fans predicting a NC.

Bravos0516

January 25th, 2012
9:45 am

@ UGA Insider

I’ve been hearing the exact opposite from real UGA insiders.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
9:45 am

@stinger2……classy post. Some people just don’t get it. Good luck to you guys on the rest of your class. Even though we are on the opposite side of the fence. We still only have one maker.

Tray-c

January 25th, 2012
9:46 am

As a pastor, I am appalled to think that coaches recruiting kids would give money to my church. This type of gift is very much like the money changers we see in the scripture. These gifts are designed to influence decisions by the kid. Unacceptable behavior on both sides (the church and the givers). CMR should know better! What has this world come to when we are buying influence for athletes in the church. I guess, there is nothing truly sacred anymore…not even our places of worship.

Sports Fan

January 25th, 2012
9:47 am

This reminds me of the movie “Blue Chips” when Nick Nolte goes to church with Shaq…and you all know how that ended.

UGA Insider

January 25th, 2012
9:50 am

I have sent this article to my friend in Indy who works for the NCAA about Mushchamp and his extra “givings” to the church. He said he would pass it along.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
9:51 am

@dawgster, I concur

Bravos0516

January 25th, 2012
9:51 am

@Dap01

Josh Dawson, Sheldon Dawson, maybe another DB like Redmond or a mystery guy. Also heard we have a shot at an OT from Tenn named Shuler.

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
9:51 am

Tray-C : No one said that CMR is to give money. Re read the article. CMR is scheduled to attend Church and then meet in a room for the remainder of the evening. Note that CMR was invited.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
9:55 am

Does this church even pass the plate for Wednesday night bible study? A lot of conclusion jumping on the blog today.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
9:57 am

Respectfully at Tray-c…the article says that it is a 90 minute bigle study…says nothing about an offering or plate being passed around…and if one is then I suspect that the church would or shouldn’t put the coaches in that situation..also, ;I would have to think that the compliance departments at these schools make the coaches aware or at least should, of any violations that could be seen as secondary…but again, alot of assumming going oh here…i can only base it off what the article says….Not sure that you can read more into it at this point…I guess the coaches could decline, but again imagine the backlash from the majority of the people if they did…

BG

January 25th, 2012
10:00 am

Tray-c

January 25th, 2012
10:01 am

Dap01: I understood. I typed that ” coach Richt should know better”. Meaning, I hope he doesn’t do this. The church that is “inviting” these coaches is the disappointing story. For the coach/coaches doing this makes me angry!

Mr. SEC

January 25th, 2012
10:02 am

Muschamp needs to go to church!

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:02 am

Any real UGA insider would know that in fact UGA is still in the running for 8 legit recruits that could make this a really good class and some of those 8 are already silent commits. No one knows what will happen on NSD, but to paint a picture that the sky is falling at this point is not a realistic picture and not the point of view of a real insider with any real knowledge of the facts.

SaintSimons

January 25th, 2012
10:02 am

I have NOTHING meaningful to say!

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
10:02 am

Ok just to clarify…evidently when Coach Muschamp was there the quote wa “that the collection plate was equally surprised”..maye it could be there were alot of people in attendance and that may be the reason for the equally surprised plate…Nothing in the article says that Coach Muschamp made any donation…Again I would think this would have been discussed before hand….Seems some are jumping to their own conclusions without accurate info…

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:05 am

The wording of the article is very important I think. Muschamp attended a regular church meeting in which the offering plate was passed. Richt is attending a Bible study at which, in most churches, a plate is not passed. Either way, most of the posts on this blog are speculating about things we know nothing about.

Dr. Phil

January 25th, 2012
10:05 am

There is a definite disconnect between Richt’s public profession of faith and the behavior of many of the players he recruits.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
10:06 am

@bucket..agreed…regarding UGA insider…go dawgs

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
10:08 am

dawgster@ 10:02, correct again. That was my take as well. A famous person attends your church. It would certainly draw a much larger crowd.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
10:10 am

@bucket…always good points from you…Ever thought about joining us over at 247 Sports…accurate and up to date info regarding the dawgs…and very little of the negative comments that these blogs are full of…I don’t visit here nearly as much as I use to…but still can’t resist viewing some of the absurd comments on here at times…go dawgs

GTBob

January 25th, 2012
10:13 am

Sounds like Richt is getting desperate. But hey, at least he can talk to the recruit and pray that he comes to UGA at the same time.

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

January 25th, 2012
10:17 am

Can recruiting get any more crazier?!

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
10:18 am

Dr. Phil: You are “reaching” a little with that observation. Agendas make people slant the truth.

dawgster

January 25th, 2012
10:19 am

@BurytheBone…you are right….I’m a little surprised that this is gettin gso much backlash…I would say if you talked to the members of this church, that they were delighted to have these guests among their congregation…And who knows what kind of effect that this had on the family or other people in this church…For some it may have brought them back to church and renewed their energy…Still see this as a good thing , regardless….go dawgs

Make Special Teams, Special

January 25th, 2012
10:19 am

“And the collection plate was equally surprised.”
Recruiting Violation ALERT!!!

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:19 am

Thanks Dawgster. I come on here because it’s convenient and free, but I am about sick of all the juvenile posters and fake posters. I don’t understand why some fans have to tear down other schools in order to make them feel better about themselves or their team. Everyone forgets that CMR was standing behind his word to wait for guys like Fields, Outlaw, Turene, and Brown. Unfortunately, those guys didn’t make it (I think Fields still has a chance) and therefore that put them down a few recruits. CMR’s policy is not to make an offer to a player unless he is willing to honor the commitment. That policy hurt this year because so many kids had been offered so early they felt disrespected by our offer. But our coaches have been working hard to fill up this class and I think at the end of the day we will be pleased with the players who commit. Recruiting is crazy and kids are young, so it could fall the other way also.

Contractor

January 25th, 2012
10:19 am

Harvey-Clemons is the biggest recruit of this entire class in my eyes. After watching him play the past two seasons it has me believing he is the biggest recruit Georgia can get. Watching him play against Grayson and 2013’s top recruit, it just showed me he was step for step with the best and seems to be the better athlete. I’m glad Georgia is working hard on him, because he is definitely the biggest recruit for this class in my eyes.

georgia man

January 25th, 2012
10:21 am

sure hope coach BOOM did not yell any of his F bombs in church.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
10:25 am

I can hear Jimbo’s blessing @ cheddars, “good food, good meat, good Lord less eat!!’

SouthGaBrave

January 25th, 2012
10:26 am

Dap01,

On top of Avery Young, JHC, and Patterson……UGA is still in the mix for Josh Dawson, Sheldon Dawson, Will Redmond, Graham Shuler, Dalvin Tomlinson, Sean Price, and probably a few more that we don’t know of that are backup plans for offers if some of the names mentioned about don’t pan out. Not saying UGA will get all of these kids, just mentioning the ones the Dawgs are still after.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:27 am

I’m sure the offering plate was happy to see Richt as well. If this isn’t a NCAA violation it needs to be. If Saban went to visit a Ga prospects’ church and gave a a huge offering you guys would be calling the NCAA.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:30 am

Funneling money through churches to give to recruits. UGA and UF taking one out of AU’s playbook lol.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
10:30 am

Thanks for the info Contractor. So you think he can bulk up to play OLB without losing speed?

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:30 am

“I’m sure the offering plate was happy to see Richt as well.” The service Richt is attending hasn’t even happened yet.

Dap01

January 25th, 2012
10:31 am

HubCity: The Church meeting is tonight. It has not happened yet, read the article. The collection plate is referring to last Wednesday’s meeting with Florida’s coach.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:32 am

Dalvin Tomlinson will sign with Bama.

Bama Mike

January 25th, 2012
10:33 am

Richt and Fisher are under the same pressure. Their recruiting ability is right up there with the best of them. The question is what are they doing with them once they get there. FSU huge disappointment this past year.

navy92

January 25th, 2012
10:33 am

I can only imagine what would be said if Nick Saban was going to church to meet a recruit. But Richt gets a pass because he is supposed to be some kind of holier than thou guy. Please…………He’s going to fill the collection plate and I bet he gives more than Muschamp did. I’m sure Richt has asked Clemons’ grandfather “Just how happy was the collection plate”, so he’ll know how much to donate.

And these deacons need to stop it. But I guess they know how to take advantage of a kids’ talent. Bet the same thing happened with Reid, Smith, and Rome. Sad……..

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:34 am

@ SouthGaBrave – that’s a good list from what I am hearing. I also heard this morning that if NSD was today there’s a name missing from your list. Point is, this story about UGA recruiting efforts is not over yet!

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:34 am

@Dap01-ok, let me rephrase it. The collection plate will be happy to see Richt.

Contractor

January 25th, 2012
10:35 am

IL Jacket,

Yes I do. He is a lean 205, and will easily bulk up to 225-230 with his frame. If they can add 20-30 pounds to a running back without him losing speed, I guarantee they can add it to a 6′5-205 pound Freshman without him losing a step.

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:38 am

@ HubCity – so who get’s dropped from Bama’s commits to make room for Tomlinson? Or have they had some decommits we haven’t been told about?

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
10:42 am

Do you think he would redshirt then or could he step in next year? Sorry, don’t know your returning players.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
10:43 am

@hubcity…Dalvin ends up at Tech, Geno’s not going to defect from bama, and JHC IS ALL DAWG. Write it down.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:43 am

@bucket-nobody’s getting dropped. Saban has never dropped a recruit to make room. Grayshirt yes but dropped no. We have one more spot and it’ll go to DT. You guys act like grayshirting is taboo. GS has been going on for a long time in CFB. But it’s not ok when Saban does it cause he’s a winner, amiright?

beanster

January 25th, 2012
10:44 am

RE: Collection Plate

If you can draw any other conclusion from the collection plate “surprise” other than a large, unidentifiable wad of cash having been dropped by a single, nameless donor who may or may not be the head coach at UF, well, might I suggest that you remove your rose colored glasses.

Grandpa’s quote is fairly black and white to me. Even though a “heads up” was given, other church members were “surprised” to see CWM. Meaning, even though we told them on Wed. that CWM was going to be in attendance on Sunday, they were still surprised that Muschamp was actually there. Not, hey, come with me to church on Sunday and bring a twenty because Will Muschamp is going to be there.

“Josh’s grandfather said the idea to invite the college coaches to worship was from some of the deacons.” Hmmm….deacons in a small church in Valdosta who know they have a star on their hands. You tell me…what is more or less likely?

All said, I am sure CMR will play along and I hope that he does. Good luck to the NCAA investigating this one!

SouthGaBrave

January 25th, 2012
10:45 am

bucket,

You are right about that. And what alot of people aren’t thinking about is that it will not be a huge loss to end up with 23 in this class, because Brice Ramsey and Derrick Henry would like to enroll early next January. I would personally rather have them locked in and able to come in and get the benefits of going through spring workouts and practice, than to swipe a 2-star guy away from Middle Tennessee State with a NSD offer just to get our class up to 25.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:46 am

@BurytheBone-lol no. DT ends up at Bama. Watch. Who’s JHS?

VaBeachDawg

January 25th, 2012
10:48 am

You posters who are trying to justify Muschamp by saying he wasn’t responsible for the offering–that maybe everyone heard he was coming so they showed up and gave more money–you need to re-read the quote. The quote starts by saying the church members were surprised to see Muschamp there. Then says “the offering was equally surprised.” Not even you Gator spin miesters can change this into “The church members showed up in droves because they knew Muschamp was coming and then gave a lot because they were so inspired by his presence.” Muschamp came. And he put a nice surprise gift in the plate. Hello NCAA.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
10:53 am

@VaBeachDawg-And you don’t think St. Richt will do the same? He’ll try to one up Mushchamp and give more. Then some of that money will somehow find its way to the recruits’ parents. Funny how that works, huh?

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
10:54 am

@Hub….I don’t know who JHS is? But DT isn’t going to sign with Saban, He wants to get into the mix right away, I think we(dawgs) have a better chance of turning him than Bama. In the end i think, he still goes to Tech. IMO

Krystal Burger Association

January 25th, 2012
10:55 am

HubCityBammer,

Please remember Krystals is off limits until we get the male on male sexual assault case resolved. Also, no more pictures of the fanbase and Harvey Updyke will be tolerated in our establishments as well.

bucket

January 25th, 2012
10:59 am

@ HubCity – where in my post did I say greyshirting is wrong? I just asked a question. Alabama currently has 27 commits for the class of 2012. The limit is 25 unless commits can be counted against another year and the roster doesn’t exceed 85 scholarship players. Greyshirting is fine IMO if the recruit knows that at the beginning of their recruitment and not at the end of their recruitment like what was done with Mr. Taylor. Taylor was commit #7, not #26. If Taylor is ok with that, it ’s not my life – so have at it. From what I am hearing about Mr. Tomlinson, he isn’t coming as a greyshirt.

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
11:02 am

@BurytheBone-where are getting your info on DT? Cause a really good source on our end says DT will be our final commit. He was going back and forth between GT and Bama but decided to roll with the Tide. We were going after Goldman but he’ll end up at FSU. DT was plan B. Winston will end up at FSU as well. Korven from Va might end up at Tennersee. All of our other targets are going to other schools.

2012 class has MORE than the usual spots to fill

January 25th, 2012
11:04 am

UGA in this current recruiting class of 2012 has about 8-10 more spots to fill than they usually have ….. roughly, 21, 22. UGA needs to sign some all state linemen from around the area to have a healthy number of O. linemen, period. Go out and offer about 6 MORE BIG, SMART ALL State, All Region caliber linemen to be safe. Some ( 8 or 10) will be better than NONE, is how I see it at this late date.

Promethius

January 25th, 2012
11:07 am

What if the kid was a Muslim? Would Richt go to the mosque with him?

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
11:08 am

@bucket-Our coaches told Taylor this fall after he injured his ACL that they’d probably offer him a GS in order to help him get healthy and save a year of eligibility. it’s up to JT if he wants to take it. Saban gave him his word that he’d honor his scholly and bring him in Jan 2013. And we have one more spot with backcounters from the last class so we never were going to greyshirt DT.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
11:08 am

Krystal Burger Association, does that mean Brian Downing won’t be getting customer of the month?

Peach Fuzz

January 25th, 2012
11:09 am

He’d go to Sodom and Gomara (sp?) if he were a 5-star.

bucket

January 25th, 2012
11:17 am

@ HubCity – again, Mr. Taylor can do whatever he wishes to do with his life, but the way you just told that story is not the way he and Coach Pritchett remember it happening. They both acted angry and said they were blindsided by that news.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
11:23 am

Hub, com’on Saban lies just cause he has lips. Just ask LSU, Miami,etc….. Great coach and a better liar

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
11:25 am

@BurytheBone-I’d rather have a lair in Saban that wins championships than a pvssy choir boy that can’t win shat in Richt.

Big Crimson 75

January 25th, 2012
11:27 am

Hope he’s not jewish

harold

January 25th, 2012
11:28 am

Florida and Florida State will win a National Championship before Richt and UGA.

ryan

January 25th, 2012
11:30 am

Well it worked with Mitchell and Drew so i say good job CMR .

beanster

January 25th, 2012
11:32 am

HAROLD, IS THAT REALLY YOU?!?! I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT’S REALLY YOU!!!!

SEC Fans for Richt

January 25th, 2012
11:35 am

This type of recruiting stunt is shameless and reeks of desperation for both Richt and Muschamp. And yes, I know the church “invited” him. They are equally to blame for this stunt. This reflects poorly on all parties. The church is no place for recruiting a kid to come play football at someone’s school. I agree with Fisher, as this has “used-car salesman” written all over it. Pathetic.

1eyedJack

January 25th, 2012
11:44 am

Any good coach will do whatever is needed to secure the services of a good recruit, whether that be going to church, going fishing, or kissing your stinking, drooling, crap-machine little baby mama’s baby.

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
11:49 am

While Richt and JHC are at church maybe Gardner needs to take Grand Pa to the Strip Club and make it Rain some. There are 2 sides to a coin so cover all your bases UGa.

Michael Veli

January 25th, 2012
11:53 am

So……is Richt(anti christ) bringing the false prophet(Bobo) and the Beast(Grantham)? My koine greek is a bit rusty but i bet the mark of the beast is the screen pass…..

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
11:54 am

“And the collection plate was equally surprised”.

Is that what they mean by SEC speed? And by speed, I mean illegal @#$% and / or bribery.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
11:55 am

Uh, SECFan-Fisher wanted to take Richt’s place at the church. Does that make him pathetic also?

The Truth

January 25th, 2012
11:59 am

“This is CLASSIC Mark Richt. Pull out the “Jesus” card, kiss babies, and pray for 5* recruits. When his next trip to Hondoras? Meanwhile, Saban is pounding the streets of Atlanta only … DAYS .. .after winning the BCS to recruit Georgia’s best juniors and cutting loose commits that don’t pan out. Tireless and ruthless? Yes but that’s the difference between perennial national champs VS perennial “preseason” national champs (St. Richt and UGA). ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!”

Actually, the difference is that we could care less what your scumbag coach does or your shady school, but you obviously are obsessed with UGA.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
12:01 pm

Brethren, God has favored Willard Romney, otherwise he would have to pay more tax. I know, I know, but in keeping with the collection plate theme.

Buckeye

January 25th, 2012
12:07 pm

Are you dogs sure he’d fit in? You know, team chemistry and everything? He has no dreds!

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
12:07 pm

Who do you want to be racing your car? Richt(Dale Earnhardt Jr) or Saban(Tony Stewart). Richt is a sales pitch, win a few meaningless games, and no Championships kinda guy.

C from Marietta

January 25th, 2012
12:08 pm

I love how these recuriting blogs turn into taking shots at each other’s schools. Immature idiots LOL

Going to church with recruits?

January 25th, 2012
12:08 pm

[...] to church with recruits? Did Auburn establish a new trend? Mark Richt is going to church with state’s No. 1 football recruit | AJC College Sports Recruit… I would love to hear from previous collegiate SAs on this issue. Personally, I'm not sure how I [...]

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:08 pm

@HubCityBammer that’s a riot you do remember that CMR has a winning record vs Bama don’t you ? that’s why Saban begged the SEC office in B’ham to switch Mizzou for Bama on the UGA schedule next year..

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
12:12 pm

I thought you’re supposed to go to church to worship God? When did it become an instrument to recruit football players?

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
12:16 pm

WDE and what hard team on their schedule did any other of the SEC East teams lose to add Muzzou? Did any EAST lose an ArkieSaw or LSU? no? I didn’t think so.

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:16 pm

@Buckeye he can grow dreds…he will never fit in a OSU he has character .

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
12:18 pm

Illegal when all you have to sell is 10 wins, Grantham and Bobo what else do you want Richt to sell?

HubCityBammer

January 25th, 2012
12:18 pm

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
12:18 pm

Illegal, apparently that is the way it is done in Lowndes.

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:19 pm

@5150 UOAD again moron you miss the point we want Bama on our schedule..oh and CMR has a winning record vs Bama…so really two points.

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:21 pm

@HubCityBammer really your posting a score from a LSU/UGA game your not a real Bama fan are you….just jumped on the bandwagon last month I’m thinking..

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
12:30 pm

WDE sure you do. Too bad you got rid of Oregon H-n-H for a 1 loss against Boise St instead of 2 then got LUCKY to get 2 wins against Mizzou instead of 2 Losses to Bama. I am so sure Mcgarity and Richt want BAMA on the regular season schedule that would maybe create a chance at a Dome rematch. Keep selling that WDE. Glad you believe it but nobody else does.

Ron Burgundy

January 25th, 2012
12:31 pm

Sickening. Stay classy college football recruiters.

FIRE BOBO

January 25th, 2012
12:32 pm

FIRE BOBO AND TAKE BACK PLAY CALLING MARK RICHT

ClinchCountyDawg

January 25th, 2012
12:33 pm

Buckeye

What is wrong with dreds?

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
12:34 pm

Ya’ll ain’t gonna like this one little bit. I have not ever before been a troll, but I can’t resist this time. This is nothing but a suck up kiss behind move by CMR. I would be highly insulted by this move if I were the young man and his family. If your program (CMR’s) can’t get me to commit to you, this move would drive me even further away. I had thought CMR had much integrity and personal pride in his way of doing things, but no more. I personally am appalled at this sham. Thanks for your time. I’m gone. Selah.

Buckeye

January 25th, 2012
12:35 pm

WDE,

To quote one of your favorite artists, “one bad apple don’t spoil the whole bunch girl”.

Buckeye

January 25th, 2012
12:38 pm

Clinch,

Nothing I guess. But I LOVE it when someone is taken down by their dreds. Looks likea horse collar but it’s pulling of hair. The NFL has deemed that legal. Not sure about college.

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:38 pm

@5150 UOAD if Saban can get a shot at a national title and not even win his division, he surely has enough clout to get UGA on the schedule if he wants….if we aren’t on the schedule its what Saban wants you know it, I know it the entire SEC knows it.

White Jeezus

January 25th, 2012
12:38 pm

Why are southerners so stupid?

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:39 pm

@Buckeye and you just wish you only had one bad apple in that barrel.

WDE

January 25th, 2012
12:40 pm

@White Jeezus why are you such a tool??

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
12:44 pm

1 4 GT, gotta disagree with you on this one. I don’t doubt CMR’s sincerity in his faith. The deacons invited him, apparently this is how the Clemmons spend Wednesday night and this was the time CMR had for the home visit. If he had never been to church to pursue a young man there would have been hypocritical, but under these circumstances I see nothing wrong with it. It apparently is the way they roll in Lowndes.

Now politicians doing a drop in on church services to show their piety-now that is a different matter.

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
12:46 pm

White Jeezus, where do you live, New York? California? I’m convinced everyone living in those states has a mild case of retardation for letting real estate prices get so out of hand. Who pays $900,000 for a 2 br, 1200 sq ft home (Cali)? LOLOLOL

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
12:49 pm

Illegal, it is called supply and demand or are you one of those socialists?

[...] According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Josh Harvey-Clemons (relation? half-relation? I don’t think so), the nation’s prized remaining uncommitted recruit, has requested to use his in-home visit with the Florida State coach at a restaurant near his Valdosta, Ga. home. [...]

Ghost

January 25th, 2012
12:54 pm

5150, You have a hard time understanding that the SEC sets the schedule. Auburn is Georgias permanent opponent from the West.When they set the 2012 schedule the conference tried to honor the series that had already begun, since Georgia played Ole miss is Oxford last year , they allowed the series to run its course. Kentucky and Vandy do not play Bama, Lsu or Arky. Mizzou only plays Bama, Tennesee only plays Bama , because Bama is their permanent west opponent. Since there are only 2 games vs western opponents no one from eat will play LSU Arky, and Bama. i know your hatred for UGA runs deep, but I don’t think next years Uga team will be afraid to play anyone and will match up with anyone they play.I am not predicting championships but Georgia will be a very good team.
If your jackets were to play this Ugas schedule they would have at least 6 conference losses
In 2013 ole miss will be replaced with either LSU or Bama

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
12:55 pm

IL & 1 4 GT……….Both the Church and Richt are wrong on this one. I think you know if that were my church I would start looking for a new church as of today. Don’t bring the Preacher’s & Deacons Politics or Football Allegiances into my place of worship.

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
12:58 pm

IL Jacket, and the people resulting in the overwhelming demand for 2 br 1200 ft^2 homes for $900,000 are mildly retarded. Your point? I vote republican most of the time fyi ;)

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Illegal, ever lived in California? Overlooking the ocean in Malibu-priceless. If you can afford it why criticize someone else’s decisions? You wouldn’t want the government telling you how much to pay right? That was my point. Just saying, that sounds like the politics of envy to me.

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1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:10 pm

I guess I owe the dawgs an apology for leaping before looking. After going back and reading the entire article, I realize I jumped too soon. However, in my defense, this is business and in my opinion, church is not the place to conduct business. That being said, apparently this is a Baptist church as collection plates and Deacons are mentioned in context with Wednesday services. I am a Baptist. They will pass the collection plate at the drop of a hat, even if only 2 people are gathered.

npgator

January 25th, 2012
1:12 pm

He should go to UF and get a real education!

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IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

UOAD, you may find this funny. Down to visit Mommer for Christmas and during services Preacher puts on GT cap to show what he got for Christmas. True story, but I understand exactly what you are saying-with me it is most acute with politicians. I guess CMR dropping in at a bible study(90 minutes) at that doesn’t get my hackles up. It is not like he was asked to preach.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
1:14 pm

@5150, Funny, cause I thought this was your place of worship. You are here preaching all the time about UGA. LOL

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:16 pm

IL Jacket, I have been to California many times and there are beautiful parts. I’m not talking about the homes overlooking the ocean, I’m talking about the 1-2 bedroom ranch style homes owned by retards in the crappy parts of town, where they still paid $500,000 – $1,000,000. Then said retards move to some place like Georgia and think they’re getting a good deal on an overpriced home (when back in Cali the same house would be well north of a mil), causing artificial inflation in home prices in our region.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

This is just good ole fashion entertainment. Almost as good as whipping Tech year in year out

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:18 pm

Lastly IL Jacket….And envy? Not in the least. I am more than content with 2500 sq ft home w/ 3 acre lot north of ATL. Thx for the concern though.

Tdawg

January 25th, 2012
1:19 pm

Why does Georgia have to give scholarships out to walk on’s? If they deserve them, then great. I’m happy for them. Why can’t they just simply hold onto them for next season and even use some of them for early enrollment next season. I see no reason to hand out scholarships to walk on’s, because you have them. If there is a law that says that you can’t use them next season, I see no reason why Georgia shouldn’t hold onto them.

Jerry

January 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

BurytheBone, how did you know that’s my favorite game to play with your mother? She said your dad started giving it to some guy named Bruce and needed a stand in for a while. It has become my favorite game now also :D

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:21 pm

Today is my 1st time on a blog about what is basically a Georgie blog. I will try to make it my last. I will add a comment about California real estate prices. Several years ago a house in San Diego sold for $800,000–it was only 800, yes 800, square feet. Also, about the same time I read an article in USA Today about an 80 ft x 12 ft mobile home in a trailer park on a bluff overlooking the Pacific with a lot rental fee of $2700 per month. The asking price–$1,400,000. A similar home in the same locale had recently sold for $1,800,000. California craziness!

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
1:22 pm

Where will the Water Girl Be tonight? Maybe I should call-in on her so we can have a devotional.

urban redneck

January 25th, 2012
1:23 pm

clyattville? that’s my old stompling grounds. bet they can smell the paper mill at church.

how many days til pitchers and catchers report????

John

January 25th, 2012
1:23 pm

Fisher has been the HC for 2 seasons now and he is an underachiever? First 10 win season since the 90s, and kicking UFs ass two years in a row (along with Miami), and 2-0 in bowl games….notice Jimbo doesn’t try to center the ball for a game winning field goal in OT when your opponent failed to score.

Fire Mark Richt and get it done already.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
1:23 pm

Illegal, sorry really wasn’t concerned at all. I guess we just have different ideas about how free market works.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
1:27 pm

1 4 GT, funny about Baptists passing the collection plate. Reminded me of, I think his name was Rev. Ike, when his services were televised and it came time to pass the plate, his admonition was he didn’t want to hear any change rattling around, put that away and take out the folding stuff. He was a hoot.

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:28 pm

1 4 GT…thanks for that…reinforces the concept of a fool and his money are soon parted…LOL. You can watch all of those shows on history / DC and see people buying crappy 800 sq ft homes (in what would be equivalent to a low income neighborhood in the south) for outrageous prices. I believe I would choose to live elsewhere….but then money’s not everything right?

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

The funny thing? Those idiots who buy the 800,000, 800 sq ft home? That’s just the selling price….by the time you factor in interest you’re looking at paying out well over 2 mil….funny because how many years does it take the average American to GROSS even 1 mil with an avg / middle class salary? My home will be paid off in less than 12 years…I love living in the south.

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Right Illegal. I have spent quite a bit of time on the left coast and everything is overpriced there. And I remember Rev. Ike. What about Creflo Dollar? Jerry Falwell was one of the worst, along with Oral Roberts. Asking for $$$ for overpriced books, tapes, cd’s & dvd’s. TV preacher’s are generally shameless when it it comes to money. Then there is the “healer” Bennie Hennie or whatever is name is and his multi million dollar oceanside mansion.

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

My general experience in my business dealings is that the louder people proclaim Jesus as part of their business, the tighter you should hold on to your wallet…I have sent exactly 4 people to collections over the last 10 years…all 4 were highly regarded within their church and proudly proclaim Jesus as their savior somewhere on their website / business card / advertisement.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

@jerry, thats the best you got. Lame-o

Illegal

January 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

And when I say collections we’re talking 5 – 6 figure outstanding debt payments…

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:41 pm

Me too Illegal! Been all over the USA and no where else suits me better. My place would be worth mega bucks in California–lakefront, 170 ft water frontage 1 1/2 acres–paid for–retired–lifew is good and getting better. And you “dwags” better look out in the rear view mirror cause we’re commmming.

Jerry

January 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

It’s alright BurytheBone, I would be mad too if my dad was boning a guy (especially if his name was Bruce). Remember that saying: she don’t eat meat but she sure like tha bone? Describes your mom perfectly.

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

Don’t remember Creflo Dollar, but yes remember the others. South must be the only place giving those
guys free TV time. Probably have to pay for it now. Then Rev. Pat Robertson has been told by God who is going to win the election, but he has been sworn to secrecy.

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

I’m outta here. Other stuff to do!

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

yeah,yeah, yeah. Thats not quite the way its told at Penn state JERRY, now is it. Go dress up some little boy like a girl now

1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

Been pretty nice here this AM & PM. The blogs should be this civil all the time. A bit of slamming on the other side, but not too bad. Selah.

Get Real

January 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

Well, they’ve always said football is a religion in the South. Now we know for sure.

Jerry

January 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

BurytheBone….what? At least thank your dad for breaking in your mom a little bit, her junk does kind of look like a blown out truck tire though..how many kids exactly has she crapped out?

Richt = D-Bag

January 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

enough said.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

@jerry, your last name wouldn’t be Sandusky, would it?

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

Stinger 2:

Thanks for the dose of common sense but you are dealing with an OBNOXIOUS Bama fan(Is there any other kind) in Titletown 114. As soon as CNS leaves Bama you won’t hear from the great unwashed such as Titletown. You will note that MOST obnoxious Bama fans were silent until CNS showed up. Now they want everybody to think they had something to do with Bama’s success or that having a great football team makes them more important.

Jerry

January 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

HA not even close. You should ask your mom though, she screams it nightly when I “bury the bone” HAHAHAHA. She really should have that thing checked out, I don’t think it’s supposed to look all blown out…

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

@Jerry, so you exume the body?

ClinchCountyDawg

January 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

I know that California real estate is high. I only pay $325 a month to buy the biggest doublewide in my trailerpark in Homerville, GA. Boy are all my neighbors green with envy!!!Plus it overlooks Skeeter Creek. Man I am living large.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
2:12 pm

@Jerry, Now I get it not only do you have a thing for little boys, you like dead people as well. You really should take your meds daily

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

BurytheBone: Damn good post at 1:56 pm.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
2:14 pm

IL Jacket:

How are your “hackles” doing?

Mike

January 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

All this talk abut “playing the Jesus card” and using religion to lure recruits, as it relates to this particular story, is ridiculous. If you read the article, it clearly states that the deacons of the church invited the coaches to attend the worship service. The coaches aren’t just showing up at the church on a given Sunday in order to sway the recruits. If the church members themselves like the idea and the coaches are willing to go along with it, then I think it’s a great idea, too. As for which coach (CMR or Coach “Boom MF” Muschamp) is probably more sincere in their intentions and belief…well, I think the wide assortment of expletives spewed forth by a certain coach on the sidelines over the years can probably answer that question.

BurytheBone

January 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

@Brainiac, yeah I guess now that he(Jerry) is away from the ones he really loves he is bitter. I didn’t know they let them have computers in jail

IL Jacket

January 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

Brainiac, they are fine right now. Thank you for asking. I am afraid they may get a little tender tomorrow night if I watch the debate.

P. Bull Terrier

January 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

When I brought up the question about the “surprised” collection plate, I should have realized that others on here would follow that line of thinking to all sorts of illogical conclusions. Others can say and think what they want, even if it doesn’t make any sense, but I want to be clear about the comment I was making.

There is no reason to think that the Clemons family, or anyone connected to them, is attempting to profit from any donations made to the church. It sounds like they are a good family trying to guide a talented player through the recruiting process. Mr. Clemons’ quote about the collection plate sounded like a statement by a man who was simply happy for his church that the offering was larger than usual on the day Muschamp attended. It didn’t sound like a quote from someone scheming to benefit from the recruitment of his grandson. I didn’t intend to imply that the Clemons family had anything to do with any rules violation. In fact, I don’t even know if there was a violation

There is no reason to accuse Coach Muschamp of knowingly doing anything improper if he did happen to make a generous donation when the offering plate came his way. It is entirely possible that the reason for the presumably larger than usual sum in the offering plate was a result of an increase in attendance because the congregation was aware that a semi-famous football coach would be at the service. I don’t think it is unusual for visitors and members alike to feel the need to make a contribution when the offering plate is passed during a church service. We don’t know if a larger than usual collection was a result of dozens of extra attendees giving small donations or one particular attendee making a donation that was significantly larger than average. IF Muschamp made a donation and IF that donation was larger than the average donation received by the church, it is possible that it can be explained by the simple fact that Muschamp earns a multi-million dollar salary and the average church member does not.

To be perfectly clear, I don’t have any reason to question the integrity of Coach Muschamp or anyone associated with the Clemons family. However, the fact that the recruitment of a college prospect can lead to financial gains by any type of individual or organization brings into question the entire recruiting rulebook. Where do you draw the line? Allowing coaches or boosters to make donations to organizations favored by a recruit could certainly lead to under the table deals where the prospect indirectly benefits from the donation. The fact that college coaches have become celebrities means that they will often draw a crowd of fans and curious onlookers at any event they attend. Inviting a coach to any kind of event that charges admission or collects donations could increase the profitibility of the event and result in an indirect benefit to a recruit.

It is impossible to come up with a list of all of the scenerios that could lead to a player or recruit receiving a benefit from being a good athlete. That is what leads to situations where you see one player’s father admittedly trying to sell his son to the highest bidder with no consequences and another player being suspended for selling his own shirt. The NCAA can’t create rules fast enough to cover all of the situations that come up. Maybe the problem is that the NCAA spends too much time making sure the athletes are the only ones who don’t benefit from the millions of dollars in profits that they generate.

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1 4 GT

January 25th, 2012
3:09 pm

I made my comment about the collection plate in jest. Baptists are famous for not missing a chance to “pass the plate”.

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

If is funny that Richt shows up with no Folding money but has a CHECK for the offering plate. LOL

WDE

January 25th, 2012
3:38 pm

@5150 UOAD right paying for recruits….. that’s the reason we are on probation and guilty of over signing and grey shirting…oh yeah thats right we aren’t.

Walker, Texas Ranger

January 25th, 2012
3:43 pm

@ 1 4 GT. I would be careful with the Baptist jabs. Baptist aren’t the ones that came up with penance.

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
3:44 pm

WDE funny that UGa just hasn’t been caught yet I guess.

Les W. Moore

January 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

Did I just read where a mutt fan called FSU… underachievers? UGAly ha a monopoly on underachieving.

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Atl Nole

January 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

Wow, I see most of the flea bag dawgs are hating on Jimbo. If the used car salesman analogy fits your coah, then so be it! You better be glad we don’t play you all. I hope we will land this recruit.

@art Nole

January 25th, 2012
4:04 pm

Why would anyone back away from playing an ACC team, Didn’t FSU lose to Wake forest in 2011?

buckheaddawg

January 25th, 2012
4:13 pm

it’s well known that muschamp has already been to church with JHC twice…richt is late

Atl Nole

January 25th, 2012
4:17 pm

Yeah, we had injuries. Didn’t you lose to UCF in 2011?

JJ

January 25th, 2012
4:29 pm

did the holy water start to boil when Muschump walked into church?

@art Nole

January 25th, 2012
4:37 pm

Nope Art , that was 2010, and perhaps you should look at records over past 10 -11 years, and FSU record vs SEC , Georgia vs ACC 14-1 since Richt arrived, Don;t think FSU has even been in final top ten in last or 12 years either. Again FSU is an ACC school , no one shaking in their boots to play anything from ACC especially a team that has a 14-1 record vs that conference over the past decade.And don’t bring up tech you lost to them the last 2 times you played them too.

FSU and FL squirm in church

January 25th, 2012
4:38 pm

Come on, everyone knows out of those 3 coaches, Richt is the True Believer.

Unbelievable

January 25th, 2012
4:38 pm

Richt has no conscience.

@art Nole

January 25th, 2012
4:44 pm

Since 2001 Georgia 106-38 FSU 81-50 playing in the A she she.

marcus

January 25th, 2012
4:46 pm

coaches are the maggots of the world. if their hearts are so into “developing quality men” then why take the enormous salaries they demand. they could easily live without the massive endorsements, and the money the college pays to them could be better served by instituting scholarships for needy students. big deal the pimps went to church!

kb

January 25th, 2012
4:50 pm

Unbelievable, You must have missed the part where Richt was invited to church instead of an in home visit.

Rumbo

January 25th, 2012
5:04 pm

They should have let Jimbo go to church at the same time as Richt. Why not let all the coaches recruiting him go at the same time? It would show the hilarity of grown men jumping through hoops for an 18 year-old. And think of the bucks the church would pull in with all the competition to feed the plate.

Kmac

January 25th, 2012
5:05 pm

@ ATL Nole

I have your back. You mentioned the UCF game simply because that fool brought up a Wake Forrest lost. I would rather lose to Wake Forrest (without our starting QB) than lose to UCF. That was a horrendous lost for UGA. I will tell Georida fans one thing: FSU is not scared. They will play you any time you want. You can keep on disrespecting the noles but you guys will find out about us. I wish we would have played you guys in our bowl game instead of the Irish.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
5:08 pm

You guys are very funny. When did giving money to a church become recruiting violation? I don’t recall the kid or the grandfather having any invested interest in the church. Muschamp can give as much money to that church as he likes….and according to all of the fundamental Christians out there….and the fundamental evalgelists that rule your minds……Muschamp should have placed at least $10,000 dollars in the plate (based on him making at least 2 mil a year…..at at least $100,000 a week……and @the minimum 10 percent required in your circles……the check or cash should have been at least the 10 grand….or Muschamp would have gone straight to hell, right?…..for not managing “God’s money” correctly.

Jez!!!! Some of you people are either desperate or just plain dense.

BiggDawgK

January 25th, 2012
5:12 pm

I have a feeling CMR will have more than a brief statement. He can quote scripture with the best of them. Josh Harvey-Clemons is a lock for Georgia.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
5:14 pm

….but Muschamp could not be as saintly a Christian as Saint Richt…..not possible? If Richt donated a bunch of money to the church (and who knows if or how much money Muschamp donated to the preacher….opps…..I mean the church…..opps…..I mean God)…..then he would be doing what God told him to do. Muschamp does it….it is a recruiting violation and has evil intent. Very funny thinking.

P.S…..Muschamp has to be seeing Richt’s “I am a believer in Jesus” recruiting tactics…..and had to get into the game himself eventually. I am sure even Satan….I mean…..Saban and Miles will soon be going around yelling, “I’m saved, too! Praise, Jesus, come to Bama!”

BiggDawgK

January 25th, 2012
5:15 pm

Tampa Gator has decreed Harvey-Clemons is coming to Athens anyway so CMR is going to church because he likes church.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
5:21 pm

BiggDawgK…..

A couple of Gainesville friends “decreed” that to me……and they have almost always been right…..but they were recently wrong about Jenkins being a lock to the Gators….as we all know…he became a Dawg. So, maybe, the Dawg lock will become a Gator this time. I hope so. But, as I said, my friends are not wrong very often.

StackedDeck

January 25th, 2012
5:23 pm

‘1984uga’……I agree. I have to tell you dawgs something…I just happen to catch a NC vs Duke regular season game on TV from 1994 just the other night. I hope just maybe Bobo might have seen the plays from that era’….would do a coach good! GO DAWGS!!!!

UGA / 74′

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
5:25 pm

But since Georgia will be “God’s team” in the future……forget that “Dream team” stuff……maybe they will just turn a cheek next year and “let” someone else win the SEC East, the SEC, and a national title….for a change of pace. Gosh….they have won it all every winter, spring, and summer since 1981.

Peach Fuzz

January 25th, 2012
5:30 pm

I can hear the preacher now. “The lord is in this house, asking you to commit today”.

Gcock

January 25th, 2012
5:33 pm

Can CMR shout and sing!!!!

Fred

January 25th, 2012
5:52 pm

“We gave everybody a heads up, and they were surprised to see [Muschamp],” Clemons said. “And the collection plate was equally surprised.”

Josh’s grandfather said the idea to invite the college coaches to worship was from some of the deacons.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Great. So is the church shaking down the colleges now? Do they give a kick back to the recruit and his family?

Just when I thought I had seen it all………..

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
5:56 pm

Here is the church Richt is visiting. http://www.xxxchurch.com

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
5:57 pm

LOOK AT THEM ALL!!

January 25th, 2012
6:02 pm

While everyone may say.. “ohh soft richt going to honduras”.. look where Saban and Spurrier were when CMR went to Honduras… they were at a GOLF RESORT!!! ohhh thats working hard and pounding the pavement huh??? BS!!!

GoldDuster

January 25th, 2012
6:05 pm

A 6 foot 5 200 pound linebacker in the SEC? He’ll be snapped like a twig.

Cliff Claven

January 25th, 2012
6:12 pm

OMG!!!! what he will do! Cheesy.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
6:21 pm

You tell Them like it really is LOOK AT THEM ALL. DGD

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
6:26 pm

@Tampa Gator:

Rough going in Gainesville huh?

travis

January 25th, 2012
6:33 pm

lol muschamp already been to church nice

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
6:34 pm

@ Tampa Gator:

Give us your “friends” names and phone numbers. To hell with football. I need the winning lottery numbers.
********************************************************************************************************************

That will not be CMR’s first time attending church especially a black church but I can’t say the same about Muschamp who may need to ask for forgiveness for his sideline antics.

John the Baptist

January 25th, 2012
6:42 pm

coach needs to take recruit to Tebow’s place instead. the ones that really need to go to church are the ones on the squad being arrested, the church would be full.

bytheway

January 25th, 2012
6:52 pm

“It’s a popular place of worship for many former Lowndes football stars, including family members of Greg Reid (plays at FSU), Telvin Smith (FSU) and Jay Rome (UGA).”

Jay Rome is a graduate of Valdosta High School, not Lowndes

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
6:56 pm

Brainiac…..

1. 1-352-446……you will have to guess the rest (but his house is not too far north of Weis’ new Ocala home).

2. 1-352-378…..again….you will have to guess the rest (but his house it is not far from The Swamp).

J. Jackson

January 25th, 2012
6:58 pm

UGA fans are funny! FSU underachieves more than UGA??? Should I remind you that you play in the SEC Least! You didn’t even play ANY of the good teams from the west last year! That schedule equals CUPCAKES!!!

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
6:58 pm

…and Brainiac…..

I don’t think they will help you with your financial challenges. Neither have put much weight in “luck” to earn their money…..more reliance on brain power for that type of success.

Andrew

January 25th, 2012
7:01 pm

I am not going to sit here and pretend like I have any idea where JHC is gonna go, but this will be meltdown city if he goes to FSU. I think UGA people are vastly underrating how good of recruiters the FSU staff are. Watch out and Go Noles!

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:03 pm

@bytheway…..

But both schools are in “Lowndes County”….and I think that was more of the reference. And I remember when Valdosta High was the only high school in Lowndes County…..and the Wildcats used to run 120 players out of the Cleveland Stadium end zone for warmups…and scare the hell out of the opposing teams….and then beat the hell out of them.

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
7:05 pm

@KMac/K Mart:

Time for your remedial/refresher/original spelling and Engish lesson.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:05 pm

By the way…..I agree with the post about a 6-5 200 lb LB playing in the SEC. This kid is overestimating himself if he thinks he will be a starter at LB next year in the SEC. At best, he will play on special teams until he gets up to 225 or 230…in a year or two.

Tampa Gator

January 25th, 2012
7:08 pm

The winner of the JHC recruiting sweepstakes…………the grandpa!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
7:09 pm

@HubCityBammer:(Saban going to church in Georgia)

He did !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We did !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NCAA will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
7:11 pm

@Tampa Gator:

You got that right about grandpa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

January 25th, 2012
7:23 pm

I know when the last time the Semi-holes lost to UGA but when was the last time UGA lost to the Semi-holes.

Seminoles = Semi-holes = That half a_ _ school in Tallahassee

SLAWDAWG

January 25th, 2012
7:32 pm

Does anyone know how to post OL to facebook?

tideofunc

January 25th, 2012
7:34 pm

“It created quite a stir when Florida’s coach showed up at church last month. “We gave everybody a heads up, and they were surprised to see [Muschamp],” Clemons said. “And the collection plate was equally surprised.”
the ncaa will probably investigate ‘tithing’ here as a possible rules infraction; just being facetious w/my comment, but in reality, i would not be surprised.

Kool

January 25th, 2012
7:35 pm

College recruiting is low budget anymore. The University of the state in which this kid resides in can’t just go to his house and tell the kid c’mon up to Athens and lets do this? CMR has to resort to going to the church and dropping some coin in the plate? UGA is in trouble. Then again, I just saw their schedule for the next few years.

wes

January 25th, 2012
7:44 pm

“And the collection plate was equally surprised.”

Why do I keep thinking of Cam Newton’s father’s church?

kilroyDawg

January 25th, 2012
7:57 pm

Has anyone heard of Cordele Patterson (sp?) announcing he’s college choice. If not, any ideas on which way he is leaning. GO DAWGS!!!

[...] Josh Harvey-Clemons, a recruit in Lowndes, Ga., invited Florida coach Will Muschamp and Georgia coach Mark Richt to visit him at his church, according to a story in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. [...]

[...] The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “[Will Muschamp] came to our regular service about a month ago; I guess Coach Richt doesn’t [...]

[...] According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Josh Harvey-Clemons (relation? half-relation? I don’t think so), the nation’s prized remaining uncommitted recruit, has requested to use a visit with the Florida State coach at a restaurant near his Valdosta, Ga. home. [...]

LCDawg

January 25th, 2012
8:13 pm

What an asinine process! These are 18 year old kids. The NCAA is one effed up system.

Passerby

January 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

Anyone have word on who Robert Nkemdiche is leaning towards?

naganole

January 25th, 2012
9:43 pm

What’s up with the FSU hate? We’ll give congrats to you on your class and we hope you do the same with us. Y’all are better than that…

5150 UOAD

January 25th, 2012
9:49 pm

Naganole….no they are not better than that. Where have you been?

FLA DAWG

January 25th, 2012
9:58 pm

OVER THE TOP,

From someone who attends Church routinely, this is too much………..either Richt is beyond the norm in my opinion regarding religion or he’s using his religion to recruit.

If it’s the former then he should be counseled to refrain. If it’s the latter he should be fired immediately in my opinion.

SLAWDAWG

January 25th, 2012
10:34 pm

With all of the underhanded “tricks” & NCAA rules that are violated year end & year out with regards to recruiting, WE are now worried about attending church! COME ON MAN!!!!!!! You know what they say, “Don’t wait for the hurst to bring you to the church”, come while your alive.

washking

January 26th, 2012
12:02 am

FLA DAWG- muschamp went so u know he only went to recruit lol

The Boz

January 26th, 2012
12:19 am

All I have to say is that if Vince would have gone to church with me I’d been a Dawg and brought at least another Natl. Champ. to UGA!!!!!

JRW7

January 26th, 2012
12:27 am

Everybody in Valdosta knows he going to be a DAWG!

The Boz

January 26th, 2012
12:32 am

JRW7: Word is grandaddy wnts him to be a Gator

John C.

January 26th, 2012
1:48 am

Well, I guess the new way to shake down college coaches is to invite them to church, pass the collection plate around and have the music stop and everyone stare at the coach, when the plate gets to him! There sure is plenty of room for abuse! Take a church like Cecil Newton’s and strike a deal with a school. Have the coach drop the check in the church’s offering plate, the church keeps part and passes the rest on to the family. Money laundering, in other words! No better front than a church! Coach Jimbo wanted to go to church, with JHC, so that he could drop his bid in the plate!

Crimson Crush

January 26th, 2012
2:59 am

Passerby

January 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

Anyone have word on who Robert Nkemdiche is leaning towards?

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He will be joining Justin Taylor and Reuben Foster in Tuscaloosa . Not really a “lean” … just a harsh reality for Dawg fans . Maybe Richt can attend a few Christian youth camps and snatch a last minute commit away from the East Carolina Pirates to make up for it :-)

[...] Josh Harvey-Clemons, a recruit in Lowndes, Ga., invited Florida coach Will Muschamp and Georgia coach Mark Richt to visit him at his church, according to a story in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. [...]

AltamahaDawg

January 26th, 2012
7:31 am

Not sure anything is more “used care saleman” esque, than using that term to insult someody else as an excuse rather than just state your own intentions.

(not that there is anything wrong with a business catering to previous owned vehicles)

1984uga

January 26th, 2012
7:51 am

Scount.com… Look at the number of 5* & 4* commits to Alabama!!! This does not even count the number of uncommitted players that still have UA on their list. Can anyone say “oversigning”???? Saban has the luxury of picking/choosing which 5* star player he wants. The rest will be discarded to whoever can pick up the scraps.

It all boils down to recruiting. While Saban is undoubtedly the best coach, he also get the best players. Look for UA to win it all again next year.

Dawg4

January 26th, 2012
8:16 am

Good article. Change the title put a picture on the page and not write anything new since yesterday. Lazy!!

Perry

January 26th, 2012
9:06 am

Coach Richt is a very religious man and would go to church with JHC if he was asked even after the young man commited to another school. Does the media have nothing better to do now than blast a man for his faith? I do not know what kind of man of god Coach Muschamp is but if he is at all like Coach Richt he would do the same. Sure these men are recruiting for their programs but a man of god is a man of god first if they show this to the parents of their recruits by attending church with them then whats the big issue? Christian parents want to know that the man that will be looking out for their children has the same values as they do.

MariettaGator

January 26th, 2012
2:47 pm

Hey Coach Richt, Muschamp left $20,000 in the collection plate. Don’t be a cheapskate.

Buzzman

January 27th, 2012
7:26 pm

did richt leave a couple of thousand in the collection plate as a “contribution?”

[...] week the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on a new wrinkle in college football recruiting: coaches going to church with their most prized targets. In the regions of the country obsessed with college football (mainly the South, but also parts of [...]

[...] Josh has to get the approval of 51-year-old Woodrow Clemons, who has become almost as famous as his 5-star grandson throughout the recruiting process. Both of Josh’s parents are deceased. Clemons is a quote machine and has a lot of unique stories to tell, like the time Mark Richt went to jail to recruit. Or when he brought along Will Muschamp and Mark Richt as his church visitors. [...]

Robinson

February 2nd, 2012
12:42 am

I think God could care less about who plays football on Sunday, but he does care about who goes to church.