Nick Saban to Atlanta RB: You can’t sign with Alabama until 2013

Any Georgia High school coach that sends a player to these bunch of frauds and liars ought to fired. What a disgrace to do this TWO WEEKS before signing day to a kid. No class whatsoever. Nick Saban gains the world, but loses his soul.

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APS schools should ban those two liars from recruiting their kids. Shame on you Alabama, especially Coach Rumph. You’ll never be allowed in my school again.

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Good Luck you man. Whatever your decision is…. you stick by it.

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5150- He just doesn’t want to play for a team that values preseason national championships over winning seasons. Can’t blame him.

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That weasel Nick Satan WAITED until TWO WEEKS before NSD knowing that most other TOP SCHOOLS(BCS level) have already filled their OVs up and cannot go over their limit of OVs.

So what he did was intentionally put this Recruit over a barrel, either you go with my GREYSHIRT “WORK-AROUND” to keep the NCAA & SEC off my back or you drop down to a LOWER LEVEL College (Non-AQ or D1-AA) if you want to sign this yr.

HS Recruits with injuries get signed by BCS Colleges all the time, but Slick-Nicky has found a way to get around every over-signing rule that they can throw at him.

He’s running the Crimson Tide PLUS the Crimson Tide FARM TEAM while the rest of CFB has to get by on 85 schollies.

A recruit commits in AUGUST 2011, but Satan springs this on him in JANUARY 2012, 3 weeks before NSD!

No wonder he’s won 48 games in 4 yrs., and no wonder the SEC-w is so successful since they are the main offenders of the over-signing rules.

If HS head coaches weren’t so EGOTISTICAL here in Ga. they’d get together and form an unofficial BAN on Nick Satan and other SECw Schools from Recruiting here in Ga.

The HC Coaches here in Ga. will never do that because even if a school over-signs, the HS HC can brag that he got xyz player a schollie to an SECw school and it HELPS THE HS HC WITH HIS RECRUITING (which is illegal on the HS level BTW).

How does the Sports Media/Sports Journalism Industry let Satan get away with this sort of stuff.

This is an issue that cannot be handled at the Conference level, the NCAA has to step in and do something.

I really feel bad for the young man blindsided by Satan’s chicanery.

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Does this really surprise anyone?

Kinda sad that this kid is so under the influence of the Saban Kool-ade that he seems to be the only one who didn’t see this coming. And to add insult to injury – the kid actually believes that he will play for Bama next year! This kid is either godawful dumb, seriously naive, or under the spell of Saban.

Not trying to be all self-righteous, but guys like Richt (or Spurrier, or Chizik, or even slimeball Petrino) never do these kind of things. You never hear of it except for Saban and Miles. There is a reason why those teams are so damn deep at every position!

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There are plenty of SEC and ACC schools that would take Justin Taylor ASAP. Somebody needs to sit this young man down, tell him to quit believing the lies of Nick Saban and his flunky assistant, and sign somewhere else on National SIGNING Day. We could use you at Tennessee.

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I’m more surprised at how dumb the recruit is. how can you be fine with something like this? The man took your commitment and spat on it! You weren’t commitment 26 you were 7! Do the math! He played you and now you cant play for anyone. sickening. Both at saban and the recruit

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haha this is getting ridiculous.. how do the parents/coaches of these recruits let them commit to the Sabans/Spurs/Dooleys of the world? I just hope people are taking notice

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The real problem here is the recruits HS coach letting this happen and still letting Saban recruit at his HS. How is this kid any different than Caleb King? UGA honored his scholarship after he had a major injury.

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What will this kid be able to accomplish by waiting another year without playing football? I am sure he wants to eventually get to the NFL and he probably feels he can best do that at AL. However, not playing for two years will diminish his prospects of getting to the pros dramatically. It is indeed sad that this young man committed at this time last year and nineteen players came in after him but he is told he cannot come to school for a year.
Any agreement signed by Saban to accept him in the class for 2013 will get him in school and most likely he will be on the scout team and quite possibly never see the field. At least he could be getting an education.
His saying he will re-hab seven days a week won’t last long. He will tire of that and possibly tire of working out without gratification or seeing progress made through playing. Too bad.
Integrity is such an important value to have in life. Alabama fans can relish a national championship and a good football team, but I would guess if you could get inside their head, the educated ones would disapprove of this type situation. It most definitely reflects on the university.

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And there it is , right out of Saban’s mouth. He has 27 commitment’s and Taylor is #26. He has already been told that he can’t sign until 2013 because there is no scholarship available . That mean’s at least one more commitment will be getting the same bad news. Also , if anymore of the recruit’s that haven’t made up their mind decide to go to Alabama , more of the current class will get the bad new’s.
If I was #25 right now I would have to sweat it out through signing day and just hope none of the 4 and 5 star recruit’s decide on Feb. 1 to go to Alabama . Even though I may have committed a long time ago ,someone else could take my scholarship by committing on Feb.1ST. That sure does give me a lot of time to find another school. I agree that Saban is a great coach but I could not be around someone that cold of a human being and with that little amount of integrity.
The amazing thing is so many recruit’s leave thinking Saban did nothing wrong and that it is okay. I can’t wait to see how many more Alabama recruit’s get the old Saban sh###.

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Not that the ncaa cares since Bama can do what it wants (see clothing gate), but they have already violated the rules by offering to get him a job when he hasn’t signed a loi yet. If they actually get him the job, it is an even bigger violation.

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Further proof the NCAA should be dismantled. It cannot be fixed. I never want to hear another word about how good a coach Saban is. He plays the system and stockpiles players knowing he will have to break it off in the unlucky ones. If he continues to be allowed by the NCAA to do this the SEC Championship will become meaningless.

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With that signed piece of paper and $5 he can go down to his local Starbucks and get a cup of coffee. What good is that paper gonna do when Saban tells him next year they don’t want him?

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Tim,

I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure it would not constitute a monetary gain for the athlete if that is the case, but I don’t know for certain. I would think the young man is not exactly the brightest bulb on the street making that statement to a publication. Now if it is illegal, somebody or perhaps both parties will be left retracting their statements and promises and the kid will still be out of a job and scholarship right now. This recruiting business sure gets shady at times. This reflects on the whole SEC, no matter what school did it.

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Say M. Carvell,

Could you tell me, whether or not the job help thing is being offered by the Alabama staff as in helping him get or job, or is it somebody else like his family or high school coach getting him a job. It sounds like he was referring to Alabama, but it is not clear.
If Alabama helps him get a job, is that illegal under NCAA rules, since he is no longer under scholarship, even though Saban will supposedly give him a letter saying he has a contract in 2013? Something smells a little fishy in Denmark, so to speak.

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Bama will be on probation this time next year and deservedly so

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Truth: For all my faults with Coach Richt, he would have never done this young man like this. He was their 7th commitment in this years class but somehow he became #26. He became #26 the moment he hurt himself and TJ Yeldon switched his commitment. Saban , Smart, or whoever they have recruiting RB’S or the state of Georgia had more than enough time to tell this man2 months ago.

Reality: From one perspective, I can’t fault Saban. He is promising to sign a contract stating Taylor can still come to Alabama. I believe he simply wanted to wait until the end of the season to be sure he wanted crush the Taylor and he knew it would. Alabama has more elite players committing them every year than they can bring in. This is just like the Bear Bryant days, but you have scholly limits now. For example, if you need 1 RB, then you recruit 4 or 5, hoping to get at least 1 elite player. But what happens when 4 of them commit before signing day? Alabama and USC (the real one) has this unique problem. Now contrast this with CMR’s approach of never oversigning, which can work. But for two years straight, UGA took an “all eggs in basket” approach. It worked but it leaves you little depth. South Carolina and Miami, on the other hand, have no business over signing anybody.

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Mr. Taylor,

Pick up the phone and call Georgia or Georgia Tech. You were going to Tuscaloosa, Alabama for college, so you weren’t exactly leaving home for the Land of Oz. Alabama basically cut you because they know it will take a year to a year and a half before your knee fully heals. One thing you know is true: Georgia and GT will take care of their own, always have, always will. They have plenty of space in this year’s class for you.

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7576DAWG Bama fanbase lets this go on because they only care about winning and downing Auburn. They spend more time worrying about AU than they’re own team. The ones I talk to think oversigning is just business to get the best players. If it were there son they might think different. After surprise switch of TJ Yelding from AU to UA that probably bumped Taylor. Of course Gelding is a whole different can of worms that stinks. I hope Taylor realizes what’s happening and finds another school so he can get started on his college carrier.

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Sorry but this dude is so brain washed it isn’t even funny. What kind of job will get you the benefits of one years free education “among other things” at Bama.

This kid is from Atlanta. Number one rule in life is nothing is guaranteed but death and taxes. What happens if/when SATAN leaves. I’ve got much harsher things to type but I will try to respect the blog.

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“They are going to find me a job.” Did he really say that? Is that not front page news?

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And that, folks is the breakdown of how you sell your soul to the devil. Nick Saban may win a bunch of football games, but he is a rotten piece of sh*t as a man.

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How did Nick Saban explain it to you? “Coach Saban said he wished he would’ve been able to tell me this in August instead of now. He said the only reason he can’t sign me is because he can’t sign 26 people. They can only sign 25 people. He said he was going to sign me with the next class. But he also said he would sign a piece of paper to show that they are keeping their word – they are going to sign it and they want me to sign it to make sure I know I still have my scholarship.”
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Nick Satan can make $5 mil per year, but he can’t count to friggin’ TWENTY-FIVE!

This would have never happened if Satan was a MAN OF HIS WORD, he went out and secured other commits and got the 5* RB from Auburn to flip to Bama, KNOWING ALL ALONG that he would put this injured Recruit on the back burner, and he did it in way (waiting until January) to make sure the Recruit would have hard time getting on with another SEC or ACC School.

If Satan knows that they can only sign 25, and this recruit is #7 “in line” then Satan should know to stop ACCEPTING COMMITS, it is that simple but the HS HC that played in the SEC and the Recruit himself cannot figure this out for themselves.

Something stinks about this entire situation.

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How about this for a title: Nick Saban to Atlanta RB: We’d like for you to heal completely before enrolling. Gee, nothing like sensationalizing a story with a crappy heading. And what’s with the oversigning references? Not sure why fans of other schools are so upset over a guy they didn’t even want. Why would a coach want a non contributor on his team?

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This story sickens me. Why any kid would would commit to a program like this is beyond me. Because you are an injury away from losen something you have worked for. You have to admit Coach Richt has never done this. I wish the AJC would also run a story on how some of the kids at Alabama with minor injuries lose their schollys or are converted to Medical Hardships because they feel they can recruit better players (this is worse in my view)

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To the NFL team in Toothlessloosa, Alabanana oh i see now how it is done. Coach Satan, please tell us more about this contract to sign a player for 2013 and this employment agency you run for folks not enrolled in your sorry excuse for a school.
Thanks,
NCAA

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How can Alabama help him find a job if he’s not enrolled?

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Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer !……Hey Justin Taylor we just beat the Hell out of you !……and for Gods sake,dont pass out with another teams jersey on while in Tuscerlooser or ya might get tea bagged

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All these Georgia Fans are all up in arms because a player is being “mistreated”. What they are really upset about is that Alabama is a top-tier football program and we are a mediocre program.

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Morals not a big concern of yours I see Old Dawg.

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Maybe if you loser UGA fans worried less about Alabama and more about UGA your team wouldn’t suck so bad.

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None of these commitments, mean much until signing day. . If you are going to punish the schools for not upholding to their commitments, then you should do the same for the students. The schools don’t know any more than the students whether the kids will sign with them. There needs to be a more perfect system.

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The Processing down to 85 has begun. It’s not a cheap shot. It’s not a jab. It’s the truth. How can a young man that was one of the first to commit to Bama in this class,be told he is commit #26? Wouldn’t the guy that committed as #26 be the real #26? He basically got pushed to the back of the line due to the “process” of ranking their commits and who they wanted on campus first.

Oh well. It is what it is.

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“Morals not a big concern of yours I see Old Dawg”

I was pre-Jan Kemp. How do you reconcile our loosening the enrollment standards of the college just to get these football players in? We STILL do that (so does everyone else). If it is “just a game”, why don’t we make football players meet the same academic requirements that everyone else does. I tutored those football players in the late 70’s; I KNOW they were not college material. But they could play football.

How is that “moral” and you draw the line at what Saban is doing? If there is a signed, guaranteed contract somewhere, why are not lawyers involved? Yes, Saban is playing the system, just like Richt is playing the system. If you don’t like the system, petition the NCAA to change it! But don’t get all high and mighty over “morals”.

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@5150…I know this kid and the program where he currently attends and you’re right….he’s not too bright…and @ RMikeI58…this kid is truly being misguided if he thinks that there is a “real” piece of paper that guarantees that Alabama will sign him next year. What they have described to this kid is a “gray shirt” and no one is using that terminolgy with him.

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Hey Navy92′

Not sure what your talking about, the military sends people packing all the time for medical reasons. Hurt in basic, heres your medical discharge. Good luck in whatever else you do. Injured before you get in the military, sorry we cant take you till your healed or get better. As a former member of the USAF 90′, you know just as well as every other former and present military member that if you get wounded, hurt or injured they start talking medical discharge QUICK! And if your hurt BEFORE you get to the military, dont even ask if they will allow you to join and allow you to heal first and THEN after your better you will serve. Its just not the case.

This is nothing more than you being upset over Bama and a strong dislike of Nick Saban! Nothing else. RTR!

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This is WORSE than a grey-shirt, with a grey-shirt, the Recruit signs in JANUARY of 2013 and basically starts College one SEMESTER late, what Satan wants to do is push him back to the Class of 2013 and have him start classes in AUG.2013.

Grey-shirts start college ONE SEMESTER LATE, this Recruit is getting totally screwed since he’s starting college one full YEAR LATE.

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This kid will never suit up for Alabama….hope his life at the Piggly Wiggly goes well.

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What is Nick Saban selling over there at Alabama? You are #26. I thought he was #7. And I thought The Tide has #27 on the commit list as well……and going for more. Again….what is Nick Saban selling at Alabama? No wonder Jenkins picked Georgia. This really smells….or sure sounds like it.

Meaning: Commit to Bama because we are committed to you……as long as you finish no higher than #25 on our commit list. The rest of you, we drop like a overheaded, microwave plate. Jenkins bought Grantham’s fish stories, but Saban sells the biggest “fish story” of the all…..it seems.

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Saban needs to use the same math that rivals.com uses. Then he could sign 30 players and still keep his 10 yr streak of under 25.

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Old Dawg
January 16th, 2012
7:56 am
If Justin wants to get his college education started (and that is why he wants to go to college – to get an education, right), why doesn’t he apply to Havard, or Yale, or Georgia Tech and get accepted and start there next year. If his academics are strong, I am sure he will get a scholarship.
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Don’t change the RULES halfway into the game!

Satan told him that his ATHLETIC ABILITY was good enough for him to be able to commit to the #7 spot “in line”, don’t change up and now say that the Recruit can just go and get an Academic scholly if he applies.

By January, when Satan FIRST informed him that the RULES had changed it is far too late for him to even apply for Academic Schollies.

Most academic Schollies that can cover a full ride have stopped their application process by DEC. or Nov. of the Senior yr., January is even too late for the Federal FAF forms.

Saban let him know as late as possible to make sure that the schools he competes against had all of their OVs filled up before he told him, Recruits rarely commit to a HC or Schools without an OV.

No matter which way you try to slice it in your twisted head, Satan is playing “dirty pool”.

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Alabama IS already on probation, have been for the 15 years or so…that is what is funny to me, all you Dawg fans need to keep up with this sh**….bama has two BCS NC’s while NCAA probation. Just another example of how the Red Elephant Club and bama operates..nothing new here. Pay attention class.

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I just heard that Saban can only count from 5 to 30……and that equals 25 to him. Yeah boy!

P.S. Saban’s recruiting tactics were one of the reasons Urban Meyer became frustrated with the recruiting process in the SEC……as he said…..some teams just don’t follow the rules and other teams have to follow those rules. We know at least one that does not follow the rules and does not have to follow them.

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[...] a kid who verballed to ‘Bama last February that his time hasn’t come yet, and that he’ll have to wait until 2013 to sign with the Tide.  That damned new SEC hard-25 rule claims its first [...]

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Saban needs his a** kicked. What a slime ball.

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dt4c
January 16th, 2012
8:09 am

Talk about AL all you want but this kid is the epitome of ignorance. How can even an 18 year old be this dumb? Good grief man, go to school somewhere that they actually care about the “student!” Saban should be ashamed. He can justify it any way he wants but this is wrong. BUT if the kid is dumb enough to buy this BS then he will just keep doing it. My bet is that he pulls this scholarship next January too.
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Satan didn’t tell him early enough.

Satan & Bama “boxed him in”; had they told him that we don’t take injured HS players back in August or Sept., then the Recruit could have shopped around to other Colleges based on his Jr. yr. Tapes and could have gotten a scholly to another SEC Team, but Saban WAITED til the 2nd week of JANUARY when most big time SEC Schools have all their OVs filled up so that he cannot come back and play AGAINST Bama.

The recruit thought he was headed to Bama until this past weekend!

Had the Recruit been told by Satan earlier in the process he could have tried to get on with another SEC team and maybe had a chance to play AGAINST Bama, but Satan wouldn’t allow that to happen.

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Saban says you can keep your morals and all that other bs; he’s collecting championships. Thats what he is paid to do.

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This kid is just one of many to get bad news in the next couple of weeks from Bama. With 26 still committed and still going after a few elites they will be dropping like flies. Please high school coaches, only you can stop this.

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Why do Ga people continue to spin everything about Nick Saban?
If the kid was truly wronged, wouldn’t his scholly been pulled?
It didn’t take you long Mike to stop the objective journalism.
You are now a official Ga homer. Congrads.
Oversigning? Check the record on the dream team. They oversigned
last year. Not by much, but they did oversign.

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When you make a deal with the devil, it sometimes bites you in your a**. Oh well, the kid don’t seem to mind the deal so best of luck to him. Sooner or later this sort of stunt is going to bite Bama in it’s Saban.

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Not even sure why it is news. The kid is ok with it. As far as over-signing. We have been doing since the days of Bryant. Why? Because we can. And as far as the saintly CMR. How about those failed drug test prior to the Florida game. Where did they submit the test John Hopkins University. Georgia is the only school where it takes a week to get the results back.

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Let’s get some things clear: 1. Nobody’s signed ANYTHING (legal) yet; 2. Nobody’s at fault for ANYTHING (yet).

As much as this appears to be a hoodwink, the young man can reopen his commitment and find another school. He had his mind set on Bama just like millions of other kids have their mind set on certain schools they want to attend this coming fall. Can’t fault him. He sounds like a high school kid. What you can fault is some of you people sounding like high school kids too. It’s a clear signal to athletes and coaches that Bama uses the greyshirt for its MASH unit signees, and will work out some type of agreement with service providers (ever heard of pro-bono work?) for kids who need help like this one does.

The kid is right in one regard – if other schools wanted him, they’d be recruiting him. Plain and simple. Recruiting really just started after the dead period ended. The worst part is, on the very next blog some of you will be talking out the other side of your mouths, saying how a kid flipping is blasphemy or a kid’s recruiting isn’t over until he signs.

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If this kid truly believes that Saban/Alabama are committed to him, then he needs to do some research. Saban waited until 2 weeks ago to tell him that he wouldn’t be able to sign until next year, but said he wanted to tell him this last August? And, this kid believes that???? Like a previous poster said, either this kid is dumber than a sack of hair, or completely naive about Nick Saban.

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Justin states that no other schools seemed interested after his injury so if he’s getting a secure scholarship from Alabama I’d say take it.

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@Alesquire,

I’m not upset “Bama” won and I don’t have any dislike of Mr. Saban. He is one of the best at his profession because he wins while not breaking the rules. Bottom line: If this was so bad, then the NCAA will change the rules. However, you missed a big point wrt comparing military entrance to football Scholarship. The military doesn’t have a Redshirt program. Mr. Saban can do the right thing by honoring Justin’s scholarship and giving him Redshirt. In that way, Justin starts his education and gets Top-notch Physical Therapy. Mr. Saban can do the right thing, but won’t.

Good Luck to Justin Taylor. He’s finding out what a tough business College football really is.

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Where is Tide Roll????

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This is ridiculous. Saban is a dirtbag.

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“They are going to find me a job”. Wow! Everyknow knows bama “takes care of players” and their families, but this is a little blatent. I would expect more out of a program that has acheived perfection in cheating.

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They are going to find me a job. Isn’t that a NCAA violation?

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I love these types of blogs. A headline making it out like Saban told him he will not attend Alabama while it is only a grayshirt and UGA fans up in arms when the kid himself is ok with it. A lot of these comments also explain to me why UGA will never win a NC under Mark Richt. Nothing Nick Saban is doing is against NCAA rules and it is Mark Richt’s fault that he doesnt do the same. All this does is give UGA fans something to cry about aside from their sorry football team. Congrats on another year of not winning a national title. 32 years and counting!

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According to all the scouting services Saban has offers still open to about 12 recruits. What if 6 take those offers, does that mean culling 5-6 more that have been recruited for some time. Bet you can almost take their list and pick which ones they will be. Remember when Davis committed there were several comments about his speed and questions about signing with Bama. T. J. Yeldon sealed the deal with this young man, thats where his scholly went.

And yes if Bama coaches committed to getting him a job than yes the NCAA will be looking at, that is not legal, but it is Saban.

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Hey, if Saban can sign a letter insuring this kid can sign a scholarship in 2013, what is to prevent a coach from not doing the same to all of the kids , say in 2013, that the school is interested in. After all, according to some on here that defend this practice, it isn’t illegal. Think of the time and money we can save in recruiting. Hell, why stop at 2013, let’s line em up for 2014 as well.

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If the kid needs time to rehab on his knee, then why not let him come in and REDSHIRT his Freshman year and do the rehab thing. Why go through the process of writing up some piece of paper to let the kid know you are committed to him hahahaha.

I don’t care who you are thats funny.

CASUALTY OF BAMA PROCESSING

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“They’re going to find me a job”….. WHAT???? Does anybody else NOT see this?

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I can’t believe you folks. So Saban is so ironclad, that when a kid says he’s going there everyone else is hands off? C’MON MAN! He doesn’t treat it that way! How does TJ Yeldon flip after being committed to Auburn for so long? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…if he’s going after kids that don’t belong to him, others can go after his. Lame…

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Tampa Gator

January 16th, 2012
8:16 am
I just heard that Saban can only count from 5 to 30……and that equals 25 to him. Yeah boy!

P.S. Saban’s recruiting tactics were one of the reasons Urban Meyer became frustrated with the recruiting process in the SEC……as he said…..some teams just don’t follow the rules and other teams have to follow those rules. We know at least one that does not follow the rules and does not have to follow them.

No, Meyer made every excuse after his weak system offense was decoded. More excuses from a program in dissarray. When Mully left the UF program went with him.

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I guess maybe most of you didn’t or couldn’t read the article
January 16th, 2012
8:51 am

Justin states that no other schools seemed interested after his injury so if he’s getting a secure scholarship from Alabama I’d say take it.

It could be because was committed to BAMA and the other schools tried but he was not interested. He then was injured and was still committed to BAMA. The Other schools fell off cause the kid didn’t keep his options open. I don’t think the kid is too damn smart if he Believes the bill of goods Saban is selling. People that have enough Life Experience should be telling this kid to LOOK and find a school to Commit to for 2012 and get his butt in school this August. SABAN could honor his word, but just as likely SABAN will move on to a New prospect.

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What is the big deal? We are helping this kid out by signing him next year and finding him a job the he will not have to work ever hard at. So Saban promise Alabama plays a car and a few bucks a week to help them out. Everyone does these types of things. Last year all the SEC were upset because we where playing a few kids by getting them some spending money at our local mens store. Alabama cares about our kids . We are the best and as all our coaches have said in the past the NCAA needs us we don’t need them. We are all about championships, if a few kids that will be taken care of don’t make it that is just part of the process. No one was complaining when Saban did these things at LSU which just goes to show that all the others schools haste us because they know we are the best. Roll tide!!!!!!!

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Double T….I recently had knee surgery for a torn ACL and when I went through rehab, my insurance paid for it.

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5150 UOAD…I just hope guys like you are still around when he enrolls at UA in January.

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Larvell Blanks….An inducement to come to Alabama. HE IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO ALABAMA and will enroll in January!

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Kids back out on schools at the last minute…. I can understand why coaches might oversign… to insure the fill their needs and are not STUCK. Folks like DaRick bailing for Tennesse a couple of years back creates this for others down the road.

The solution in my opionion is let em sign whenever they are ready. School makes an offer… Recruit makes a decision…. Let’s sign and be done. School gets to their limit… Their done. No waiting for a signing day and do away with these verbal commitmits.

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January 16th, 2012
9:15 am
D.E. – If the kid need to rehab and his doctor said it was the best thing for him to grayshirt, why not put another kid on scholarship who can contribute in some way and bring this kid in at a later date. Why do UGA fans have a problem with this even though the kid doesn’t? Seems like it is just one more thing to bitch about with Saban.
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It is unfair to the Recruit for him to have to start his ACADEMIC CAREER 1-YR. LATE due to an injury, plus he won’t get the same quality of Medical care ON HIS OWN that he will get from Bama’s Med. staff supervising his REHAB.

The easy solution is to HONOR the commit, bring him in an RS him and allow him to REHAB while he STARTS his ACADEMIC CAREER!

That is the most fair way to proceed!

BTW Grey-shirts START ONE SEMESTER late in Jan 2013, Saban wants him to start in Aug. 2013 a full YEAR LATE!

The Recruit is getting scammed, and a $5 mil per yr. HC is abusing his power at the expense of TEENAGERS.

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SECIsFootball………..I have BEEN AROUND for years. I hope you are here using the same name but I doubt that will be the case.
SEC is football because SEC stands for:
Selectively
Educated
Conference

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January 16th, 2012
9:20 am

Double T….I recently had knee surgery for a torn ACL and when I went through rehab, my insurance paid for it.
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Are you that STUPID?

The kind of REHAB you get from an HMO to continue a “normal Life” is NOTHING like the REHAB necessary to compete in the SEC!

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He really must not be as good as he has been lead to believe or Saban wouldnt be taking this risk of loosing him. He should jump on board with another D1 school now!

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WnE…thanks for the explanation of why UGA football is where it is and that is without a championship for more than 30 years. Kids can be verbally committed to a school for months and back out when they want if they find another school to go to. It happens all the time. Yet a coach delays a kids enrollment and all the sudden its the worth thing in the world and he is completely screwing up the kids future. I am sure you have read where JT has no problem with this being done and him saying “as long as I get to play for Alabama.” Another quote from him about his enrollment from a tidesports.com article….”I’ll come in next January,” Taylor said. That is a grayshirt!

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Living in Alabama and working with Bama fans; let me assure you, they do not care if 10 more kids are sent on their way before 2-01-12. As long as they do not go to Auburn. Also, the administration at Bama does not care. Who runs the school? Take a guess. This is why if I were a recruit I would screw a school over in a heartbeat. Business.

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I am SURE this KID is getting a very Expensive Education in Life Experience right now that he will not realize until next year. It ain’t like a College Degree, but it will be an Education.

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WnE…I dont have an HMO so not sure what that has to do with it. I just said my insurance covers it. Dont know why that is hard to believe. Just because the kid said rehab 7 days a week doesnt mean he is going to a therapist. He is 4 months post surgery right now so a lot of his rehab can be done on his own. But by all means, make more of this than there really is to make!!

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If someone else is offering…. I am taking it JT. Just not worth the risk

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WnE…you UGA whiners get more and more pathetic with each post. The injury was not hidden and his scholarship was not pulled. He will be enrolling at Alabama in January. He has his choice to go elsehwere but is sticking with Alabama. The kid wants to be on a team that wins National titles and I dont fault him for that.

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Until coaches, players and their families nut up and tell him to hit the road, this stuff is going to continue. At some point it becomes less his fault and more their fault…and we’ve passed that point with this situation.

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Ther are D1 schools with openings that would take the kid if he is as good as advertised. UGA has openings… though probably not at RB. Tenn and others are not full.

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“What is that Saban has and Richt and UGA doesn’t”

It’s called NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS! Period, end of story! Bama has 3 since UGA’s last one. And they are in the hunt most years. UGA’s Dream Team will probably come through next year with the PATSY schedule they play but when they face a real football team they will get manhandled. 5th best in the SEC this year!!!

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I coached in Georgia and Texas for 27 years and now am a high school administrator and I am calling my friends still coaching asking them to bar Alabama from recruiting in this state again.This has gone on far too long and it is devastating to these families.It never happened to me but it would only happen to me 1 time and that school would have a lifetime ban.Alabama coaches are liars and have no morals or ethics.

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Georgia and most other schools would have pulled his scholarship after the injury. What phony hypocrisy and jealousy of posters like GeorgiaMD to make these whiney comments because Bama is coming off yet ANOTHER national title.

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Did anybody wonder how long it would take some coach a way to figure out a way of circumventing the rules when the SEC, tried to haul in abuses of the recruiting limits at schools.
If nothing is wrong about, trying to get a job for a high school graduate who actually has no affiliation with that school, in order to try and insure that he remains loyal to that school, then there will just be another loop hole closer rule, made by the SEC or NCAA to close that one as well. I do believe though, that this job offer falls under the illegal inducement rule of a recruit. I also believe it will not be 24 four hours before the kids story is changed either by himself, after he realizes he has screwed the pooch, or the University of Alabama will come up with one. Either a denial or that the kid was misquoted.

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This is just another in the long line of examples on why the entire college FB recruiting process needs to be overhauled. This poor kid, and his parents are completely inadequate to negotiate and deal with professional con artists like Saban. When Saban offered, he accepted and subsequently ended all conversations he had with other teams. Saban however knew he had this one in the bag and began going for bigger fish. When he reeled in bigger, more highly rated players, he is now throwing this one back, with only 2 weekends left for the kid to try and schedule another visit to a potential college. I hope for his sake that he and his parent/guardian are able to see through this mess. Saban will “sign a piece of paper” guaranteeing a scholie next year? Come on man, you can take that and a dollar and get a double cheeseburger at Mickey D’s. Bama/Saban’s empire (and his personal bankroll) has been built by the kids hes victimized either by lying about scholorships or by running them off if they dont live up to his expectations or if someone else is a little bigger/faster/stronger. I hope a Bama recruit or a Bama recruits parents see this situation and ask Satan the tough question before selling their soul to the devil.

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I know Bammers, I know… 14 national championships! And yes, I dont have any. But then again, neither do you

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WnE…I have no idea why he waited. He doesn’t consult with me about his decisions. Saban has put together some pretty good classes over the last 5 years and with all the complaining people in these blogs do about how horrible of a person he is, he seems to keep kids interested in Alabama. We have grayshirted a number of players over the years and no one has complained about it. Just is not complaining about it and is in fact ok with it. If he is, this should not be a big deal to you or anyone else. We have 2 guys that may not qualify so it is possible he will still be there this summer. This is a non-issue when JT said he was ok with it and wants to play for Alabama.

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BILLY JACK-Grey shirting will actually benefit Taylor if you think about it. That’ll give him an extra year of eligibility, time to rehab and plus he’ll get to enroll early in Spring 2013 to give him a chance to compete for pt. But continue your jealousy of Bama and Saban without using logic. What else has Saban done to be banned from recruiting Ga? You sound like a typical butthurt dawg. And how is grey shirting devastating Taylor’s family? And how did Bama lie to Taylor? Sounds like they were upfront about it and Taylor was cool with it. Hell Saban even signed a contract to let him know that he’ll keep his word on his scholly.

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Apparently Justin is fine with this, as noted above “I’m cool with it”. Also in another interview he said his doctor agreed with this approach, which is used quite often by many other schools. He gets more time to heal this way and come in in better shape to compute for championships… something he wouldn’t be able to do at UGA, UT, or GT. And he’ll get maximum development for the NFL. Sounds like a kid with more patience, maturity and drive than most of the UGA fans on this board. Good for him. Look forward to seeing you in Crimson Justin. Roll Tide!!!

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Lots of crying puppies in here lol.

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How do you allow a kid to commit for over a year and pull his scholly when other programs are full at the position? The kid even mentions that no other schools are calling. He is done and should run like crazy.

This is CHEATING the system to benefit the coach who cares nothing about the student.

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Why don’t we just give UGA ALL of the 5 star recruits so that when you suck with them you will finally come to the reallity that CMR and his coaching staff are 3rd rate at best. It was just one year ago that you were calling for CMR to be fired and now that you were the 5th best team in the SEC he’s a god again. Gimme a break!!!

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wah, wah, wah…..jus a lot of uga dawg loser butthurt

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If this were my kid, I would pay a visit to T-town and give that 5-foot nothing coach the beating of his life.

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This only benefits Alabama, not Taylor. They could put him on scholarship this year and redshirt him. Same result which is giving him a year to recover. This kid was their 7th commit, not 26th. He should not have to wait a semester to start school and it’s terrible Saban pulled this now. I know, it’s Saban so it’s ok. Since they have 27 commits and can only sign 25, who else are they pushing away? What if someone else commits, who gets cut? If they could only take 25, once they got 25 commits, they should not be allowed to take more and tell guys like this who have been committed to them for months that they can’t come until next year. What happens if his rehab is slow and they end up with more than 25 commits next year?

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And Bama is not through recruiting “this year”.

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Concrete Pete-You girls have been saying Saban will leave Bama after every season he’s been here. And lol at you acting like you know Sexton. Get out of your mom’s basement and quit living in a fantasy world. And even if Saban left after next year he would’ve won more NC’s at Bama than uga has in their entire history.

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Stinger – Saban would kill ya!!

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Meet the new boss….
Same as the old boss…
We won’t get fooled again….

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This is just more uga whining because they can’t keep recruits in the state. Shut up and have a better program.

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This just affirms what we already know about Alabama football… the End does justify the means (whatever they are).

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Bama you may wins titles but you win them with NO CLASS!

They do not mean so much when you CHEAT!

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Bama Mullet – Did Saban’s shoes fall apart? No sole????????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Loser.

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SABAN expects recruits to keep their word but his means little. He will continue to get commitments and make cuts as he desires. No oversight and apparently reports to no one.When you research the coach you see his character. Ask the Miami players.

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HubCityBammer, I would rather be in my mom’s basement that in my aunt’s trailer dead in the middle of tornado alley! Good luck during the spring tornado season you tornado bait, “Roll Damn Tide” yelling, Cam Newton hating, go to the Bama spring game because thats the only game you can afford self!

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Saban “wished he could have told him in August”? Do they not have telephones in Bammer? Has Satan not been in Atlanta (recruiting OTHER kids) at least 15 tiimes since August? PARENTS GET THE FACTS BEFORE YOU SELL YOUR KID TO THIS EVIL MAN!

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Brick, show me where it says that you HAVE to win your division to play for a NC. Just b/c Saban said it what does that mean? What is he going to decline a chance to play for a NC? Name 1 coach that would decline.

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Can’t wait to hear uga fans cry on here when Carvell writes a blog on Nkemdiche committing to Bama. I’m sure Saban will be accused of cheating etc. typical crybaby dawg fans lol. Bama is taking the top two recruits in Ga next year who also happen to be the top two overall recruits in the nation. Roll Tide!

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NCAA should not allow BAMA to sign one more kid since they are full.

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You Bama haters make me laugh!

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BAMA is the arm pit of the Sec.

To bad they don’t leave and take there cheating ways to another conference.

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Does Alabama “own” these kids?

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Follow the story Roll Tide 48

This is not about UGA and it’s poor coaching. It’s the lack of integrity of Saban that’s being questioned. I feel sorry for you and the other Bama fans on here if you can’t see what’s wrong with this.
I know you hate this coming out and that’s why y’all feel you have to call people whinner’s. It’s not just UGA people that are disgusted with this practice. It’s the entire college football world that is. Again, this is not just saban. There are several other coaches doing the same thing.

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99% of verbals commit this late duh??

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Yellow Bees??????????????WTH are you talking about?

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You are asking a lot for a BAMA fan to have integrity! Have you seen what they do with family?

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Sec you are tech fan at her best.

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CMR Owns Trickey little step ladder Nickey

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“Concrete Pete-Thanks for affirming how classless uga fans are. Making fun of the tornado in Tuscaloosa is about as low as you can get.”

I agree with this post, but please don’t put all the UGA fan base with this kind of commentary. That was classless post about making fun of tornado’s in AL!

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[...] Originally Posted by TideWarrior It is very hard to get these players. Sal's is a nationally ranked recruiter and was our main recruiter for that area and we probably went after 30 kids with offers this year and we got 1 commit and maybe a chance at 1 more. Last year we pulled 2 from that area and the year before 2. So to be honest if you can pull atleast 2 each recruiting cycle probably on par. But yes loaded with talent. Nick Saban to Atlanta RB: You can’t sign with Alabama until next year | AJC College Sports Rec… [...]

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Please let this story go viral. I will do everything I can to make it happen.

This has got to stop.

BAMA plans to sign 3 more and will cut 3 to make it happen.

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The righteous indignation here is priceless. Regardless if the practice is right or wrong so many fans are lashing out at Saban and Alabama saying my team would not do this, which just shows to complete hypocrisy of too many fans. Mark Richt at Georgia has pulled offers, so has Georgia Tech, Penn State. Purdue, Boise State, BYU, Michigan, USC and on an on an on. If you were not screaming when your school did it, calling your coach a scumbag, calling for his job then doing so now shows you really don’t care all all about the kids, just winning.

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That is funny if you do not have brain.

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A Bammer hick calling anyone else classless? And all we have to do is read the comments about this situation and see Bammer’s “class’. Completely justify Satan’s methods. Karma? You will feel it soon enough. The hundreds of kids that have been a victim of satans methods will come back to crush you. Thw 2nd coming of Gene Jelks is coming, except this time he’ll have an army with him. Trash

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This is Bush league jornalism at its best… and very disapointing from this writer. I suppose whatever it takes to get a Nick Saban story up so we can have lots of traffic on the blog. Taylor: “I’m cool with it, as long as I get to Alabama and play. And, as long as I have more time to recover and get solid.” Why is the kid sticking with Bama? Maybe because everyone else backed off because he busted his knee.

2011 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!! HATE ON HATERS!!! LOL

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YouR a tech d bag! Get it sec

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DP
January 16th, 2012
10:19 am
Here’s one Alabama fan who has a problem with this situation. This is the first confirmed case I’ve seen of a greyshirt or delayed enrollment who apparently wasn’t told upfront of the possibility. After the kid got hurt I don’t know why Saban couldn’t have told him months ago. Or better yet, let him come in and redshirt as a freshman.
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I just wanted to recognize you as a lone voice of integrity in the entire State of Alabama.

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This kid does understand that the “sheet of paper saying that I still have my scholarship.” is completely worthless and unenforceable right?

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Big Hole in the Universe – 1980 UGA ever since!!!

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You’re right. We value integrity at UGA. Take the Rammer Jammer and you know what you can do with it.

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@10:30…………Hate it, but e dat…….although I think Georgia every time during that time…..

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‘i know they want me because that’s what they are telling me.’ oh, heavens and glory be. this kid is primed for a lot of pain in life. wait until he goes to a few job interviews. ‘but they said they love me.’ bless your heart, saban, and we all know what this means in ’southern’ speak. i love that coach richt doesn’t do these heartless things; that’s why we linger until the last to pack up our dream teams; cmr will not promise what he can’t deliver and keep a young guy out of the recruiting race for a year, only to drop him. how many more kids have swallowed this line? it is unethical and immoral. where is the ncaa in all of this? guess you can’t even buck up to saban or any of the other crooks out there. but believe me, ‘the worm will turn’ one of these days. doug dawg, and proud of it.

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Sandman- Do you actually think Bama is the only school that does this? In the infamous words of Coach Pat Dye “there isn’t a single D1 school out there that is Lilly White”

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Shame on Bama – Here you go, after only 30 second of googling. As a formaer college athlete, I have seen it go on for years, so this is tip of the iceberg
Georgia – Devin Burns
Georgia Tech – Dontae Aycock
Purdue – A.J. King
Penn State – A.J. King
You can search for more, unless you are too lazy or only want a reason to complain.

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‘If they didn’t want me, they wouldn’t let me keep my scholarship.”

I’m sorry, but they just TOOK that scholarship away. He was the 7th to commit, but fell to #26 in their books.

This young man has the right to make his own choices, but I’m afraid they are leading him on in the worst way. If they sign 25 next year, where will he be? The part about finding him a job is disturbing, too, as it could cost him his eligibility if done improperly.

I wish him well, and hope it works out for him.

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Concrete Pete-Yes, you’re a classles POS and a true representation of uga fans. Making fun of a tragedy like the T-town tornado is horrible but not surprising coming from you. And lol at you saying that grayshirting will come back to hurt Bama recruiting. We have one of the top players in Ga (Rueban Foster) already committed to Bama for 2013 and will also sign Nkemdiche. We’ll continue to sign top 5 classes while Saban is here and we’ll also continue to raid Ga for their top recruits. So get used to crying about it lol.

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Steal Au’s RB and make cuts! Simple

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Saban is a D bag this kid was one of his first commits to the class and Saban puts him on the back burner!
What goes around comes around.

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Keep crying UGA fans. You guys dont care about this kid as much as you want to just bitch about Nick Saban. His success if killing you UGA fans seeing he can win 3 NC’s in 10 years and UGA hasn’t done it in 32 years. In the last 10 years UGA has 2 SEC titles while Alabama, LSU, Florida and Auburn have all won titles. Did you get that. AUBURN WON A NC. It amazes me how bad a human being Saban is and how unethical he is but yet he manages every year to sign a better class than that god fearing Mark Richt. Give the crying a rest UGA fans. What Saban is doing is completely legal within the context of the NCAA rules and it your own coaches fault for not taking advantage of them. Funny how UGA fans are more riled up about this than Justin Taylor is.

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“Why would a kid wait on BAMA if other teams would take him and red shirt him? What is it about BAMA that Richt and UGa don’t have to make kids want to do the same?”

Answer – 14 National Championships and an average of 3 – 4 first round draft picks a year.

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Coach Mark Richt to OL X. Ward: “You can’t sign with UGA until next year”
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/01/19/ot-xzavier-ward-all-over-map-2-weeks-before-signing-day/

where was that title? lol no one cares what CMR does because he did not/will never win a National Championship.

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January 16th, 2012
10:40 am

“…that god fearing Mark Richt.”

Sounds like the only one crying is you.

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RlMike, the only problem with “should have gone to UGA” is that CMR backed off of the kid like the plague when he was injured! At least Saban is giving him a scholly!

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Holy Cow, a “The Grinch” sighting. I thought he’d disappeared after the LSU beatdown and the collapse against Michigan State.

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Bama wins NC’s because the desire to do so goes all the way to the top, the governor on down That is not the case IN THE STATE Of GEORGIA.

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Justin Taylor – “If any other college wanted me, they would’ve hit me up. I haven’t really heard from anybody since the injury.”

So Alabama told him they still wanted him after he got hurt? He has heard from no other schools since the injury? Wow, you guys are right! Alabama has no class or integrity.

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The next time anyone wants to bang on me for talking about Tech and, to their credit, UGA are fighting with a hand behind our back regarding oversigning, I’ll just point you here.

To those who think Paul Johnson is a hypocrite with his No Visits policy, as long as he holds the scholarship for the player – which is the other side of the deal – I’m fine with it.

Saban should be hammered relentlessly about this. Miles should be, too, because last week an offensive lineman that was committed to LSU for about a year and had planned to enroll early was told there was no spot for him. He is now at Auburn.

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January 16th, 2012
10:35 am
Are you people really this stupid?

1. Saban told him 2 weeks BEFORE NSD. And you people actually think this is a bad thing? The player is free to accept the decision or sign with anyone else he wants.

2. As the player was quoted as saying, ““I’m cool with it, as long as I get to Alabama and play. And, as long as I have more time to recover and get solid.”

Seriously, you’ve got to be a real idiot to trash Saban over this. The situation has been explained to the kid, the kid is free to go to whatever school he wants to, the kid is cool with it, and he still wants to go to Bama.
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You can’t be that naive Robert!

The NCAA limits the #’s of OVs for Schools to give out, this LATE(2-weeks until NSD) in the process, many big-time Schools have all of their OVs filled with other Recruits.

Saban knew of the injury in Aug. 2011 and he WAITS until Jan 14-16th of 2012 to tell the Recruit??

You think 2-weeks notice is generous when Saban had FIVE MONTHS to tell this recruit?

if YOUR SON was done this way how would you honestly feel about any HC that did such a thing?

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@SecIsFootball – “It amazes me how bad a human being Saban is and how unethical he is but yet he manages every year to sign a better class than that god fearing Mark Richt.”

Now just so I did not misinterpret you, you are saying that having a better recruiting class is more important than being unethical???? Is bing a God fearing man bad in your opinion? I’d rather be a God fearing man than winning the NC every year any day. This time on earth is temporary!

Yes you have many more NC’s than UGA, yes Bama is a better football University than UGA, but that is not the story here. I believe that everyone will concede that Bama is the better football school.
It’s about the unethical recruiting practices going on by not just saban, but other coaches as well. I have a son that will be going through this process and as a father, I would be highly upset if this happened to him. Maybe your not as along in years as I am so you don’t look at it the same way.

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The Bama stormtroopers are out in force to try and spin this in a positive way. You guys should call a professional like Obuma, Pelosi, Wasserman-Shultz, or Axelrod. This ain’t going to play well anywhere outside of the state of Alabama, and only encourages those who are on the bubble of selling their souls like Spurrious, Pigtrino, and Cheesestick.

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JB… I think Jawja’s lack of “desire” to win championships is well documented…. 31 years and counting.

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Dumb Dawgs -

The inclusion of an “s” at the end of a word seldom necessitates an apostrophe. For all of you suggesting this kid failed math, it would appear the majority of you failed basic english.

Roll MFing Tide!

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The kid says he hasn’t heard from anybody but Alabama since his injury. Yet, many of you want him to dump Bama because they want him to come in a semester later. Where are all of these other schools that were after him before his injury? Please, you don’t care about the kid. You just want to bash Nick Saban and Bama.

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Unbelievable that Dawg fans really this stupid. UGA was interested in him, and UGA only has 17 commits right now. UGA can easily take him. So it’s idiotic that Saban is somehow shafting this kid. Where’s Richt’s offer? At least Saban is willing to give an injured kid a scholarship. UGA apparently isn’t.

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X. Ward
LOL LOL LOL

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/01/19/ot-xzavier-ward-all-over-map-2-weeks-before-signing-day/

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Saban completely manipulated this kid. He had him committed for a year so no one else could get him and then, two weeks before NSD, he tells him there’s no room.

I’m amazed Bama fans consider this acceptable. Perhaps I shouldn’t be, though.

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This is why Geno Smith is visiting UGA this weekend!

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Blackout…..I’m serious about the desire. We don’t have the same “fever” over here that your state does…..There is no doubt about it. If we did, Richt would have been fired 2 years ago and someone like Chip Kelly would be coaching Georgia for 5 mil….hell 6 mil a year….and he would been throwing deep on Auburn this year with 3 minutes to go with a 49-10 lead and kicking butt………We’re Outback people over here, hate to say it.

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George Stein
January 16th, 2012
10:51 am

He won’t be the last one ditched. Remember, Bama already has 27 commits and they are still recruiting other prospects. In other words, this is just business as usual.

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“I’m amazed Bama fans consider this acceptable. Perhaps I shouldn’t be, though.”

I thought the same thing George. However, because they have come out in full force with all the negativity trying to re-direct the conversation to the lack of UGA NC’s shows me me that most of the Bama fans on here could care less because winning is everything.

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The facts on if the kid was not hurt he would be playing or
red shirting this fall for Bama. Saban is bringing in a class
compared to the 08 class whp 2 NC’S some thing Georgia
would not know what that means. If the kid still wants to
play for Bama next year he will have a acholarship and
haters got hate on Saban. Dawg fans get al life!! RTR

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He may be but how SOLID is bama to him? That’s the question of the day buddy!

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If Dawgs ever get a butt kicker with a resume over here and puts a fence around this state, Bama will be back to 8-4

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What kind of MATH are they doing in the sate of Alabama where the 7th guy “in-line” that doesn’t change his commitment and then he somehow ends up being the TWENTY-SIXTH guy “in-line”.

The recruit didn’t change his mind and he has no power to change the “process” ,so that means that Nick Satan must have gone back on his “word”!

How can you spin that?

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@SECIsFootball

I know it’s not just saban doing this. It goes on all over and yes, the kid did say that he is fine with it. Of course he is going to say that. He loves Bama football and I hope that Saban holds true for him next year. My point would be is that there have been kids that were not such die hards and 2 weeks before signing after they were committment #7 that this happened. Not all kids would be as understanding.
I’m not on here knocking the University of Alabama. I appreciate watching your team play football. My opinion is that this practice is going to really get out of control if someone or committee does not step in and control it. I know it’s not just Saban, heck who knows Richt might have even done this before. We don’t know. It’s the practice itself by whom ever that is wrong.
Congrats on the NC!

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Bama will welcome Mr. Taylor to campus with the 2013 class. It’s simply a numbers issue. Did no Dawg fan read where he said ” If they didn’t want me, they wouldn’t let me keep my scholarship”? Sounds to me like his scholly wasn’t pulled.

Perhaps if Jawja knew how to work the numbers they wouldn’t be getting run by a team that Bama owned for the MNC. It’s within the rules last I checked. If the rules need to be changed then let’s change them. If Coach Saban works within the rules then it is what it is.

And if Saban is such a terrible person then parents wouldn’t be sending their kids to T-town. Maybe they’ve been blinded by all the crystal that’s piling up over there! No such worries in Athens I guess.

31 YEARS AND COUNTING DAWG FANS! AJC, KEEP WRITING YOUR SENSATIONAL STORIES ABOUT THE EVIL NICK SABAN. IT WILL SELL SOME PAPERS BUT WON’T BRING HOME THE CRYSTAL FOOTBALLS!

ROLL TIDE ROLL! BRING ON THE NEXT BCS TITLE!

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There is no math, WnE. What I want to know is whether they can even take 25 this year. They may only be able to sign 20 or 22 kids, which means even more players are going to get screwed, and some may be on the Bama roster already.

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SECIsFootball

He is going to be in Athens Saturday.
I’m not saying he is going to UGA, it’s just seems suspicious that now all of a sudden UGA coaches are at his school and he is visiting IGA this weekend.

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What is about this kid is” recovering from a major injury” that you idiots dont understand? He’ll sign in January and begin his career. Georgia woulda dropped him when he got injured. Your jealousy is duly noted !

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Who cares if he is OK with it, SECIsFootball? The guy that has an oversigning blog likens this to the mortgage crisis – basically this player wants to live in a house he can’t afford. Do you honestly think this should continue to be unregulated?

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Blackoutanyone?, Since you were so resourceful to go back a year and dig up a blog stating UGA would gray shirt Ward, I’m confused as to why you didn’t find more updated news on him.,,, Like the fact that he SIGNED on signing day, was a member of the 2011 class, and reported to UGA for summer camp like the rest of his peers. Nice try. 14 NATIONAL TITLES AND WE STILL ENVY GEORGIA! Disagree? Need no more proof that your handle…

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“If Dawgs ever get a butt kicker with a resume over here and puts a fence around this state, Bama will be back to 8-4″

Right JB, because Alabama has always taken a back seat to Georgia in college football. If, wait ’til next year, Penn Wagers screwed us, it’s always some excuse, isn’t it?

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SECIsFootball

I’m not saying he is going to UGA, just saying it seems suspicious that UGA coaches have Bern at his school and now he is going to visit UGA.

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The kid was told that he could come in in January 2013? Actually he wasn’t

“•What is the status of your knee injury from August? “I’m good right now. I’ve already had the surgery and everything. I’m running right now. They want me to be 100-percent healthy. They said it takes at least a year [to recover]. They said yeah, some can bounce back in 5-6 months. But the only people who bounce back in 5-6 months are the ones in college because there are on campus and they have that physician to be there seven days per week. I don’t have that. I only work out two days per week with my physical therapist.”

Yep – Alabama is so committed to him that they are not doing what they think is best for him – get him on campus working with the UA medical and rehab personnel

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All you Bammer fans justifying Saban: What if he did that to your son? What would you do? No nevermind, don’t answer that… Offering Satan your daughter isn’t something most decent people want to hear. Stay envying a real state, Georgia and stay hating a Georgia imitator, Auburn.

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Bingo, Paul. The whole issue is – and continues to be – that the commitment seems to go only one way.

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Look up Justin Taylor on any recruiting site and that’s all you need to know. He’s not an elite talent. Saban took his commitment, and then was able to get players he deemed better. Then told Taylor this line. I guarantee Taylor never gets to Bammer.

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So, he is going to physical therapy “at least seven days per week”, as opposed to going at least 8 days per week?

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uga fans are jelly of Bama and Saban’s success so they bitch any chance they can.

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Stuck with the kid???? On what planet are they sticking with him, pittsburgh George? They won’t even honor their commitment to him!

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“Bama stuck with the kid.”

I must have read the blog entirely incorrect. My bad. I thought Saban said that he will not sign him this year? Am I missing something?

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Just think how pissed Saban is that this kid excepted to be Grey shirted.
At least he has a year to come up with another lie!

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DIT….yes…you must have missed the fact he will sign in January.

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It’s been an informative morning! Y’all enjoy your day & remember that there is more to life than Football.

John 14:6

Have a good one!

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Dawg48, my thoughts exactly. I just got the feeling that he was hoping to offend this player’s 18 year old ego and run him off that way. At least up in Rocky Top they just put on the bright orange pants and tell the kid plainly and clearly to look elsewhere.

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Saban is running Alabama like a pro coach now. He gains commits from kids and if he finds someone better he finds a way to drop them like this kid. He didn’;t have TJ Yeldon (who he got to flip from Auburn) when this kid committed so he should have seen it coming. After he signs kids, if they don’t meet his standards, he simply “processes” them out by forcing them to take a medical hardship. The REC (Red Elephant Club) are also back to their old practices of “enticements” to get players to come there. When four players who have committed to Auburn “flip” and one of them right before the dead period and players are whisked away to a condo on the gulf and such goings on it should be very obvious what Saban is doing. What’s going on is obvious but it seems that nobody will challenge Saban, at least not yet.

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When are kids going to realize what a liar and a fraud the little Napoleon really is?

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A couple of his statements are interesting….

“He said I’m going to stay in Georgia. They are going to find me a job…. ” – is that allowed under NCAA rules and regulations? Maybe it is, but I find it hard to believe that buying a kid a value meal at McDonald’s is a violation but finding him a job isn’t. And let’s be real this will probably be a “wink-wink-nod” job.

“Tennessee came through and I only talked to them one time. They gave me a number and the number didn’t even work” – What “number” is he talking about? Are we talking jersey number, a phone number, or as I suspect a “brown paper bag number”?

I love how he says he’s sticking with Bama because they are committed to him. What a joke. Young man if they were committed to you they would give you your scholarship this year. Also, BEFORE he decides not to look at other schools, I’d take Nick’s piece of paper to an lawyer and make sure it’s worth more than the paper it’s printed on. If he can give him an excuse not to sign him this year he can do it again next year, and I’m quite sure he’s asked the schools lawyers if that piece of paper would hold water or not. The fact that he’s giving it to the kid probably means in the real world it’s not worth much, but a feel good jesture to keep the kid on the hook. They plan to sign him UNLESS another better prospect comes along.

I’d never let my child go play for Saban.

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Jim S…Way to recycle the same post on here over and over again.

A player can be committed to a certain school for a long time and then all the sudden change his mind and that is ok. It is not ok for a coach to pull a kids offer though (even though richt has done it in the past). A player can commit to a school and then decide to transfer and that is ok. A coach can not revoke a kid scholarship though. The funny thing is Saban has done none of this with Taylor or any other kids you can name so if it makes you feel better to down talk the best coach in college football, do it. Jealousy is a b!tch. If Saban was at UGA and he did the same thing, Dawg fans would love it because you are winning.

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Simply, Wow. How does this NOT affect Alabama’s ability to recruit in Georgia or any state not named “Alabama” for that matter? How can anyone trust a school/coaching staff that does this? Yes, Alabama has a nice tradition and they are one of the elite teams in the nation BUT this is just wrong how this coaching staff play games with a kids future.

Word of caution: if you are offered a scholly to Alabama and there’s still MONTHS til signing day, wait before you commit and if they rescind that offer, you were likely just a “safety” pick who’s scholarship would have been yanked away if some 5* recruit committed.

Of course, this isn’t just an Alabama issue. Its also being done by the coaching staff at Tennessee and South Carolina *shaking head* to name a few.

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@inbtersting comments from Justin…..if bama can find “housesitting jobs” for Rent Richardson’s mother, then they will take care of this young man’s parents if they really want him. Sounds like Saban does not need this young man now and instead of being honest with him and telling him to look elsewhere Saban strings him along.

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This kid is crazy to stay with Alabama. Does he not realize that Alabama already has Cyrus Jones and TJ Yeldon signing with this class. He minds as well go sign with another school instead of sticking with Alabama.

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Paula…Yeah….He is such a terrible and unlikable person that he manages to sign the #1 ranked recruiting class 3 of the last 4 years and will do so again this year. Then these poor kids have to come to Alabama and compete for national titles. I bet all those kids on the field of the Super Dome last Monday night were wondering what they were thinking singing to play for such a terrible human being.

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Saban does not care about his players!
Bama fans do not care about there players!

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The fact that Taylor says Alabama is going to get him a job is the most significant detail in this sordid story. That promise definitely will bring this to the attention of NCAA enforcement and lead to an investigation of “job gifting” with UA recruiting. Bama may have to return those crystal footballs after NCAA enforcement finishes rooting out the truth.

Now I see why so many Bama players and coaches are so hurriedly leaving what may be a sinking ship in Tuscaloosa.

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Predicted this months ago and said CPJ should make a push for Taylor and Ball. Come on kid he dumped you for a five star because saban does not coach up he trades up for what looks better. Other schools have not come running because you and the people surrounding you are stuck on bama and coaches only have so much time. Got to give saban credit though he does a great jedi mind trick on kids.

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Well, sure bama is up there in recruiting. If someone offered you and your mother and/or fathers (many of who come from impovershed backgrounds) homes, cars, money, etc., to sign on the dotted line with bama, you would to.

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Bama will never sign this kid if he never gets back to where he was when he first commited. They know everyone wants to play at Bama. So, they pull in a large group, then weed out the weaker of the pack. Im glad this type of negativity does not come out about Richt. Maybe this will pan out for us, as kids start to see they are actually worth something at UGA.

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So rather that Sept. 2012 he enters school in January 2013. Big deal. When the kid is scoring TD’s for Bama I am sure you homers will be very quiet.

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I am in shock. I would never let Saban or Smart step foot on my campus again. What is wrong with him?

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Saban is not smart at all. Even if he is a good coach, he is a disrespectful person.
Why did Saban not do good in the Big 10? The Big 10 does not break recruiting rules like some of the SEC schools (Alabama and LSU). That is why he went to the SEC. So he could finally be successful as a coach.
I DO NOT RESPECT SABAN AT ALL.

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TJ Campbell
January 16th, 2012
11:43 am

Get back to us, Mulligan U fan, when the kid is actually on Bama’s campus.

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The Grinch….you “32 years with out a NC” dawg fans are even funnier.

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Let’s face it, Saban is doing the same thing at Mulligan U that the Bear did – oversign kids, discard them at your convenience – it’s just that Bear didn’t have to deal with the world wide web.

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SECIsFootball
January 16th, 2012
11:45 am

Be sure not to be laughing so hard that you fail to step over the dehydrated Bama players lying on the field.

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Saban shows again he is a terrible person!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-57340382-10391697/former-dolphin-says-nick-saban-walked-over-convulsing-player/

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WnE you are truely an idiot and a Saban a$$ kisser. If you think for one second Satan will keep his word to this kid, you are even dummer than he is. First of all you know that, that lying SOB has no intentions of honoring his word to that kid even if Satan had sighed that promise on the front page of a bible. So take that line of crap you’re spewing to some other idiots that will believe you. Like the Alabama fans.

People, Georgia don’t want this kid. If he is dumb enough to buy the crap Satan is feeding him, then he is obvious to dumb to get into Georgia and he sure as heck wouldn’t be able to get into GT. Don’t feel sorry for this kid one bit. He has idiot written all over him. Geeze where are his parents for crying out loud. They also mentally challenged.

Let see. Come to Alabama and learn the art of Tree Murder 101, Molesting pasted out LSU fans103 and Lieing to Kids 98. Hurry up and apply. Classes are almost full. Alabama has lost all rights to ever put down another school as long as they exsist. Nothing at Alabama except pervs and liars.

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SECisFootball, You seem to be a little nervous about this matter. I don’t blame you. The headline for this story should have been, “Bama Recruit Says He Was Promised a Job If He Delays Signing For One Year”.

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What does he mean by “they are going to find me a job?”

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Blackout anyone,

Now come on man, like he all of the sudden changes whom he is referring to in mid sentence. He would have said his H.S, coach or whomever, if such were the case. No worries though, there will soon be a retraction by either Alabama or the kid, once they contact him. I am sure AL.com will be the first to publish it. Another loop hole reg. to be published by the SEC or the NCAA, in the works, no doubt as we speak.

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Bingo, Grinch @ 11:46.

The issue here is that apparently Saban is so awful at identifying talent that he needs to sign 113 players over 4 seasons. We have some proof of this from his time in the NFL, where he was a whopping 15-17 in two seasons.

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Michael Carvell… You’re pathetic. Everything you ever write that has anything to do with Alabama is garbage. It’s OBVIOUS that you hate Alabama. You should work on being more professional and objective. All of these idiots that comment on these stories eat it up, too. Just like you, I guess they’re tired of Saban and Bama bending UGA over on the recruiting trail… GET USED TO IT!

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Here’s another one…
“They want me to be 100-percent healthy. They said it takes at least a year [to recover]. They said yeah, some can bounce back in 5-6 months. But the only people who bounce back in 5-6 months are the ones in college because there are on campus and they have that physician”

Are he and his family mentally challenged? “the only ones who bounce back in 5-6 months are the ones in college because they’re on campus and have that physician…”

That says it all right there. If Saban truly cared about or wanted this kid he’d have him on campus where he would get the best medical and rehab treatment.

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Dawg Bark, It’s obviously the people who are delivering him to Saban who offered the extra benefits (job, etc). Boosters, alum, whoever.

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Thanks SECIsFootball for proving my point. Rivals is run by bammers.

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RedandBlack…. the entire article is written with a strong slant and many misleading questions that bait the kid into giving the “writer” quotes so the “writer” can put his spin on it. Nothing but a cheap attempt to stir up hits on a blog. Very disapointing for this writer I might add. AJC has an agenda just like any other site. The key to the entire article is: “If any other college wanted me, they would’ve hit me up. I haven’t really heard from anybody since the injury.” But the AJC spin machine is all over it and you people are eating it up. lol

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Some of you guys logic is so flawed.

Lets see: How many times has a kid told a coach that he is committed to a program, visited on the last weekend prior to NSD, then on the morning of NSD he turns and commits to another school.

The issue is Moot and this is all a local Recruiting guy who wants to advance the agenda of his state school and turn the topic away from a lackluster recruiting year by a coaching staff that was outcoached in every BIG Game they played this year.

From all readings and reports outside of this article indicates the young man, his coach, and parents all realize that he is months if not a year away from being ready to compete and be on a field with contact.

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Paula….RIVALS IS RUN BY YAHOO SPORTS! Try reading a little more slowly.

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Jim Mcdade… hooked on phonics bro. “They” is not the same as “Bama”…no matter how hard the writer of this article tries to suggest it is.

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@SECIsFootball…please stop while you are ahead. You are so obvious a bammer by your lack of mental understanding…first you confirm my point that Rivals is run by bammers now you want to give me names of the bammer players who have been “processed” by Saban. You just can’t make this stuff up.

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No, Rivals is OWNED by Yahoo Sports. Owning and being responsible for its content are 2 entirely different things. You aren’t real bright are you?

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They are going to get him a job? How nice of them.

Unless they find a way to blame Cam Newton’s dad for this, I think we might see the NCAA back in Alabama again.

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I luv how this blogger hates Bama lol. Keep it up!

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[...] the AJC, we get the awesome story of how oversigning rules are affecting Nick Saban and his notorious [...]

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Geez these Alabama fans are truley astounding. God, I mean Saban can lie, cheat and not honor his commitment to a kid and yet these loons still defend him. Is all of Alabama truely that classless? No doubt in my mind you pathetic idiots would sell your own kids soul to the devil if it would bring all might Alabama a NT. Oh wait a second. I forgot, you are already got Satan. No need to sell them. Wonder what you classless Bama fans excuses will be when he does this same thing to the next 3 or 4 kids he lied to. According to Satan he already has his full allotment of commits, yet he is still in the running for severl more recruits. What excuse is he going to give the kids that he is gonna shaft next time. Don’t matter to you classless Bama fan’s what he tell’s them, does it?

Got a word of advice for you Auburn fans. I wouldn’t pass out in front of any Turd fans if I were you. They may do more than just molest you.

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Paula…that fact that you think you are statin facts about anything is comical. Rivals is not owned by a BAMA alum or anyone associated with Alabama. TideSports.com is a member of the rivals network and is owned by the Tuscaloosa news. The guys who own the Rivals Alabama site have nothing to do with rankings. Those are done by national guys who work for Rivals.com. Please get your facts straight.

As I thought, you could not give me a single name of someone “processed” by Alabama or coach Saban. Until you can, all you have are these little ideas in your head which are so far off you are making yourself look foolish. So, unless you can provide me with names you have no idea what you are even talking about. My suggestion is to stick with the mediocrity which is UGA football and leave the real football to the big boys like Alabama, LSU, FLorida and Auburn.

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Got to love a Bubba UGA fan/ man or woman crying over a situation they have NO understanding of.

But anything negative about any program be it GT, Alabama, USC, UF, Auburn they jump all over.

However if anything negative is reported, written or blogged about UGA they jump up and down and cry foul and want the journalist, blogger or poster reprimanded.

Go ahead and whine some more, until you know all the facts it is all you have to get you through a cold dark winter after losing your last two games of the season.

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Funny how no one is chanting “SEC” today.

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too bad… read the entier article and get back with me. The kid has no other offers. None… UGA and GT are not recruiting him because of his knee. Saban is sticking with the kid yet the article paints Saban as evil for having the kid delay enrollment by 6 months to rehab. Something CMR did with X. Ward

http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-high-school-sports/2011/01/19/football-recruiting-uga-alabama-georgia-tech-and-auburn-make-late-push-for-colquitt-county-offensive-tackle-xzavier-ward/

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Sickening..I’m not only concerned with the remark about the but also how Coach Pritchett can be ok with this kind of treatment.I think we should have a look a the coach’s last 12 bank statements.You stand there and watch people get treated this way for free.

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I’m curious about this piece of paper and what it says. I hope Justin Taylor runs if he is asked to sign in blood and shout “Hail Saban!”

lol

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For those commenting on the job status, Here are the NCAA Rules… Saban knows the rules and loop holes..

13.2.3.2 Prior to Completion of Senior Year—Athletics Award Winners. An institution may employ

a prospective student-athlete who is an athletics award winner in any department outside of intercollegiate athletics,

provided the employment is arranged through normal institutional employment procedures (e.g., local

newspaper, bulletin board listings) and without the intervention of any member of the institution’s coaching

staff. Any compensation received by the prospective student-athlete must be for work actually performed and

commensurate with the going rate for such services in the locale. For purposes of this bylaw, institutional recreation

programs, even if reporting to the athletics director, may be considered outside the intercollegiate athletics

department. An institution may hire a prospective student-athlete, who is an athletics award winner, in its

recreation programs, only if recreation and facility managers and no intercollegiate coaches are involved with the

hiring and supervision of these employees. (Adopted: 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04)

13.2.3.3 After Completion of Senior Year. An institution may arrange for employment or employ any prospective

student-athlete (regardless of athletics award winner status), provided the employment does not begin

prior to the completion of the prospective student-athlete’s senior year in high school. (See Bylaw 13.12.1.5.1.)

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Rick, the REC paid him off! Why will no one believe me? LOL!

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Paula….Not sure where I quoted ESPN but most feel they are the experts when it comes to sports. Sorry but fact. However, I dont need ESPN or Rivals or 247sports to tell me what I already know about football and recruiting. The 2008 Alabama signing class had a record of 48-7 and won 2 national titles. Not bad for some websites who blindly ranked out classes #1, #1, #5 and #1 respectively the past 4 years. We will be #1 again this year by the way. UGA, on Rivals, is sitting somewhere comfortable at #19.

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BCSEC….why did you have to go providing facts and proof. UGA fans dont want any part of that when they can just run around making stuff up.

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@Rick James, not to mention one of those really great bammer fans “teabagged” a defenseless individual in the Frech Quarter after the game.

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The rule specifically states the coaching staff can’t be involved at all, you backwards Bama fans just proved the case that you are cheating.

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When you mutts get as many championships as us then come talk to us. Until then we are your daddy.

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to Roll Tide….your failure to see how wrong Saban’s recruiting tactics are is amusing….your justification of what he does is based solely wins and losses…not right or wrong…if it was your son I’ll bet you’d be on the other side screaming at the top of your lungs how your son got screwed….we’re sitting here in the office laughing at all you self-rightous Bama fans….LOLLOLLOL

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Bring it on….they constantly are obsessed with our football program. Maybe if they would get a real coach instead of Mark I’m a christian Richt then they might win something.

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Jim Mcdade… mean while everyone loves UGA and hope you will soon sign CMR to a long term contract extension. Why has St. Richt dropped his offer to this kid? Just because he hurt his knee? Notice the “writer” of this article doesn’t dive into that portion of his recruitment… lol

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If the Ajc came over here and did a story that uncover all the dirt we see over here everyday they would win some awards and this would be a national story. Living here all my live has opened our eyes to what really goes on with the Tide. For all the good that Alabama does if the real story was uncovered this blog would go on forever. Open the eyes of the nation AJC.if you don’t the NCAA will continue to cover it’s eyes come over here.

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MARK RICHT PULLED THIS KIDS OFFER WHEN HE BUSTED HIS KNEE!!!! What part of that don’t you idiots understand.

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Here’s your fact, JoeLee. This kid was the 7th commitment of the class and had never even heard the term greyshirt until 2 weeks before NSD. Now he’s being told he’s “#26.”

Still waiting for one, just ONE, Bama fan to stand up and admit this practice by your coaching staff is abhorrent. Don’t worry, I’ve already counted you out.

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The pure jealousy on here amazes me. This young man was informed before signing day and he can choose to sign with any school he wants. It sounds like he would rather wait until he can sign with Bama and that is his choice. Every school offers upwards of 40 players a season understanding they will only get a percentage of the offers as commitments. These kids can change their commitment on signing day if they choose. Coming off a knee injury, this was a very prudent decision by Saban.

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BD…we have already counted you mutts out too…counted you out on never winning another title.

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“Maybe if they would get a real coach instead of Mark I’m a christian Richt then they might win something.”

So CMR is a bad coach in your opinion because he is Christian? Do you realize that the Christian Mr. Richt is 3-1 against Bama?

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with this story? never mind. they have a vested interest in making sure that the SEC does well with recruiting speaking of which.,,,

the ESPN recruiting show is nothing more than an ad for the ‘best football conference in the usa’ … the SEC,

yea right.

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Jim McDade

January 16th, 2012
12:18 pm
Alabama is despised by everybody in the sports world, with the exception of Bama fans. Bama fans have an inflated and grossly distorted view of how they and their institution are perceived. Alabama has spent most of the years since the Stallings era either on NCAA probation or under the “watch” that follows probation. Their coaching searches after Stallings was “fired” were always a comedy of errors, even when the unpopular Saban fell into Mal Moore’s lap after Saban was rejected by the Dolphin nation. Harvey Updyke, the recent sodomy video, and almost countless cases of slap-onb-the-wrist punishment for Bama players who never fail to struggle mightily to form poorly chosen words into a coherent sentence, all contribute to the accurate perception that the words student and athlete cannot be used together when describing the win at all philosophy that consumes the Alabama nation. The Crimson Tide is a nasty stain on the image of both college athletics and higher education that needs to be removed by shutting down Alabama athletics for at least a decade by imposing the death penalty..

No, it is called jeolousy.

By the way, the same two guys responsible for lowering the boom on Alabama have their own issues. One at Miami who allowed massive payoffs over multiple years and the other one representing Jim Tressel in front of the infractions committee.

Life is good and winning championships is what cures it all. Of course you UGA fans have waited 30 plus years to only fail each and every year while living through the words “Jan Kemp” and “Jim Harrick” for the past 25 of them.

Thank god for women’s gymnastics, and tennis at UGA or your sports programs would be at Division II levels.

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Stay focused people: THIS IS ABOUT BAMA AND HOW THEY CHEAT!

Stay on topic.

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…getting an unsigned recruit a job with the promise of him signing next year = huge violation…

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Keep propagating the Bama fan standard, Roll Tide. The win-at-all cost approach of your head coach suits the general intellect of your fan base quite well. The rest of the world’s normal human beings pity you. You wouldn’t understand. Nor would any other imbecile decked out in crimson.

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The negative hate keeps getting worse and worse by the Bammer fans because they are feeling the heat! Fact is, people argue with yelling (capital letters) and negative spewing because they know that they are wrong. In most cases people that are right laugh it off and move on. Not the case with the Bammers on here.WOW!

Let’s talk about how CMR is a bad coach because he is a Christian.
This article is not about CMR, it’s about Saban shafting a gentleman that was committed to Bama since last year.
But by all means, keep protecting him.

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I don’t care how many titles they win. I would never want to be Bammer, Auburn or LSU. Football is secondary. Get your priorities straight!

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Did St. Richt take the team to church yesterday?

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“I don’t care how many titles they win. I would never want to be Bammer, Auburn or LSU. Football is secondary. Get your priorities straight!”

….. and this sir is why you are a loser.

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This story needs to go viral!!!

Please make it happen!

This has got to stop, kid is ruined because of BAMA!

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