Inside Recruiting: Shaq Goodwin, UGA, Georgia Tech, and the Harvard way (UPDATED)

Shaq Goodwin, the 6-8, 240-pound WR (AJC photo by Michael Carvell)

Shaq Goodwin, the 6-8, 240-pound WR (AJC photo by Michael Carvell)

  • Two-sport star Shaq Goodwin of Southwest DeKalb is in the process of setting up official visits to UGA, Florida, UCLA, Memphis and Arizona. The 6-foot-8, 245-pounder is planning the recruiting trips around his busy schedule of both football and basketball. Goodwin is one of the nation’s top 15 overall basketball prospects at power forward, and also claims he will play football in college, too — at wide receiver or tight end. We’ll believe it when we see it, not because we doubt Shaq’s football ability, but because he’s that good in basketball. Within the last couple of weeks, Goodwin has entertained in-home visits with Florida coach Billy Donovan, UCLA coach Ben Howland and Memphis coach Josh Pastner. UCLA brought along top assistant Korey McCray, who coached Goodwin in AAU ball for the Atlanta Celtics. What about UGA? Goodwin made an unofficial visit with the Bulldogs a couple of weeks ago. Goodwin was thinking about taking an official visit to Memphis this weekend but his mother told the AJC that no decision had been finalized yet. Goodwin has to finalize his paperwork with the NCAA Clearinghouse before taking any visits, and that could come any day. UConn has also expressed recent interest, according to Shaq. UPDATE: Goodwin will make the official visit to Memphis this weekend. It will be his first recruiting trip.
  • How often do you see someone turn down big-time D1 athletic offers for Harvard? That’s what happened with Woodward Academy’s Michael Hall. The 6-foot-11 Bell picked Harvard over a stack of D1 basketball scholarships, which he said included Florida State, Memphis, Cal, George Mason, Northwestern, Georgia Tech and Cincinnati. Hall talked about Harvard’s coaching staff and the Ivy League school reaching the NCAA tournament, while also adding, “I have aspirations to go to the NBA just like any other teenager … but what some people may not realize is that I might not be playing basketball too long after college. With the Harvard education, I know there’s business and career opportunities out there for me after basketball.” Hall has a 3.4 GPA and plans to study Business or Economics.
  • Remember former Georgia Tech All-American and NFL offensive lineman John Davis? He was called “The Refrigerator Mover” for his blocking performances against William “The Refrigerator” Perry. His son, Harrison Davis, plays offensive guard and center at Walton High School, and has serious interest from Memphis, UAB and Middle Tennessee State, among others. “There are some good family genes there,” Walton coach Rocky Hidalgo said. “John said when he went off to college, he was about 6-2 and grew three inches. Harrison is about 6-2 and 270 pounds right now. John claims that Harrison reminds him a lot of himself at the same age. Harrison is really, really a rough and physical kid. He’s a very good athlete for an offensive lineman but he’s exceptionally rough. We call him a bear with furniture. He’s like a big old grizzly bear.”
    Florida may be next to offer ML King OL Joshua Outlaw, one of the state's top prospects for 2013 (AJC photo by Michael Carvell)

    Florida may be next to offer ML King OL Joshua Outlaw, one of the state's top prospects for 2013 (AJC photo by Michael Carvell)

  • One of the state’s top “sleeper” prospects may be close to a college decision. Mt. Pisgah’s 6-foot-5 senior quarterback, Kyle Sloter, is scheduled to visit Tulane this weekend. Tulane was Sloter’s first and only D1 offer, while several others – including Arkansas — are closely monitoring his senior year.
  • Syracuse was the first scholarship offer for Norcross High junior tailback Alvin Kamara, who also has heavy interest from Georgia Tech. Meanwhile, Florida may be the next to offer M.L. King junior offensive lineman Joshua Outlaw, according to his coach. The 6-foot-4, 280-pound Outlaw already has an early offer from South Carolina. Outlaw has caught the attention of scouts from UGA and Georgia Tech, too. Kamara, Outlaw and many others of the state’s top prospects for 2013 will be participating in December’s RisingSeniors.com Bowl, organized by former Georgia Tech star Joe Burns. Check out the roster on the website.

– By Michael Carvell, AJC Recruiting Blog

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45 comments Add your comment

Toon Dawg

October 12th, 2011
6:22 am

Why haven’t we offered the Joshua Outlaw kid? Surely UGA has seen him with Blake Tibbs and Kendarious at MLK, too. I don’t want to read about Outlaw committing to Florida or Alabama in a few months and saying we were “too late to offer” like so many of this year’s seniors. There’s no excuses with us already at the school for Tibbs. GO DAWGS! 10-2!

Paddy

October 12th, 2011
7:02 am

Toon Dawg….UGA has its own style in how it looks at the recruiting process. It seems to be working for them! Lets call it dilligent and careful. If and when they sign a player, he usually is a SEC quality performer. Speed does not always win the race. Believe me, they know what they are doing over there!

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
7:07 am

Dekalb seems to have surpassed Gwinnett as the talent hotspot in the state.

JAWJeRDAWG

October 12th, 2011
7:14 am

Glad to see that Joshua Outlaw is on Rodney Garner’s recruiting radar and hope that UGA won’t wait ‘until it’s too late’ to decide if he’s indeed ‘talented enough’ to offer a scholarship.

Since it seems that UGA is taking the slower evaluation route of offer, I hope they hit the 2013 class hard in offers in the areas of most critical need; and the OL will certainly be one of those.

If and when UGA offers, Joshua Outlaw, I hope you chose to stay in-state and play for the Dawgs.

Best wishes to you in your efforts on the high school gridiron, and in the classroom. .. Go Dawgs!

JAWJeRDAWG

October 12th, 2011
7:20 am

Paddy

I agree, the slower evaluation route of offer has been paying off for UGA in the quality of recruiting talent.

To the kids, it just seems that UGA is sometimes ‘too slow’ in their perception to their talent for an offer.

Hopefully though, in the long run, the recruits will see that when UGA offers, it is a firm commitment, and is just offering anyone.

Time will tell, but I hope that hold true. For those we have signed, it seems so.

For these younger kids, we’ll just have to see if reason overcomes a sometimes fragil ego.

JAWJeRDAWG

October 12th, 2011
7:21 am

Gried – NOT just offering everyone!

JAWJeRDAWG

October 12th, 2011
7:22 am

GRIEF: just not offering everyone. It’s early.

DEKALB HOOPS COACH

October 12th, 2011
8:46 am

Shaq enjoy the attenention you are getting now.When it’s over it’s over…Michael maybe he can play both at D-2.No way will he be able to play 2 sports @ D-1 level.Too raw at football…He can put on 50-60lbs and work at OT..No way he’ll be a WR,TE at the D-1 LEVEL…

AnnapolisDawg

October 12th, 2011
9:05 am

Best of luck to these young men. I would love to see them become Dawgs but hopefully they make the right decision for themselves. I don’t want the player that commits to a school because they were the first to offer. However, there is something to be said about Saban’s way of recruiting. Hit all of te elite players early and let them know how many spots you have for each position. Commit early and the spot is yours, wait around and you’ll probably lose your spot to another prospect that decided earlier.

Gold & 'White

October 12th, 2011
9:13 am

Wish Tech would offer JD’s kid. Doubt we’d have a harder work ethic lineman on the team and seems we always have a need for depth there.

UGA zzzzzz

October 12th, 2011
9:24 am

Has to be exciting following JOEjuh Football!! Scout has the lowly dogs at 29th? No wonder the top talent is leaving state. Don’t fool yourselves doggy fans. Your program is mediocre at best with the best QB in the land (LOL!!) bumping up his record to 10-9 and has yet to beat a team with a winning record. Can’t even compete in one of the weakest divisions in all of cfb.

UGA = zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Mark Richt

October 12th, 2011
9:35 am

I haven’t offered him because he hasn’t proved that he could live up to be a TRUE BULLDOG. Once he gets a couple of arrests under his belt we may have a look. There has got to be at least a Hit & Run….

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
9:40 am

So I guess Spurrier will offer if he flunks 6 drug tests.

juvenal

October 12th, 2011
9:53 am

hope Tech offers some interest in Harrison….shame more kids don’t, or can’t, think like Bell-maybe he wants to be president….

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
9:56 am

I do hate it for Garcia, he was only one “second chance” away from tying Steve Howe’s sports record of seven “second chance” failed drug tests for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Man, he was sooo close.

H Davis Fan

October 12th, 2011
10:24 am

I put 100 bucks on Harrison Davis committing to the Citadel if they offer. Also, he plays Left Tackle at Walton not guard or center. (though that is what he will probably play in college)

tom

October 12th, 2011
10:42 am

As far as basketball goes, Shaq would love Memphis. Of course, given Memphis’ football team, he’d prob be a starter, too.

schmeckdawg

October 12th, 2011
10:47 am

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
9:56 am
I do hate it for Garcia, he was only one “second chance” away from tying Steve Howe’s sports record of seven “second chance” failed drug tests for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Man, he was sooo close.

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True AND funny!!!!!!!!

shotcaller

October 12th, 2011
11:27 am

hey the kid from Woodward Academy is MICHAEL HALL, LOSER!!!! AJC U GUYS ARE TERRIBLE WITH YOUR HS BASKETBALL COVERAGE!!!! Atleast you can get the damn kids name right!!!! He finally gets some acknowledgement and he cant even put it in his scrap book because u kept refeering to the kid as Mike Bell!!! Get a CLUE AJC!!

DEKALB HOOPS COACH

October 12th, 2011
11:46 am

@ Michael Carvell,Will Shaq be the 1st player ranked #1 in the state that will not win Region player of the year which will go to Tony Parker again 4-A Player of the year which Mr Parker won last year and will win again this year.Mr GA Which Tony Parker will win.Will he be a McDonald’s All American and play in the McDonald’s game which Parker will be invited.I’m just making these points because you put him the same class as “DERRICK FAVORS” which is not close by a 100 miles..Jordan Price is the best player on SWD team. Take Price away SWD is sub -500 team where they were before he got there..

Your 1st Basketball Coach

October 12th, 2011
11:55 am

Shaq forget those who dont belive in you , You are blessed to make it enjoy your visits , get whats needed from the schools that are interested in you .Those who doubt will be without , i was there for the 1st jump ball — and I will be there in the Future G
God Bless You ,

Coach Tommie Peoples

pcbmike

October 12th, 2011
12:09 pm

Wishing Joshua Outlaw the best for his future. But if you pick UGA, you would be just another outlaw there.

joe

October 12th, 2011
12:10 pm

Carvell sucks, his name is Mike Hall not Michael Bell, how bad can you possibly screw up a kids name after talking with them? By the way GT never offered him either like you said, they showed interest but never gave him an offer.

tide roll

October 12th, 2011
12:36 pm

Aren’t you guys up on Richt and Uga’s mode of operation? Just like waiting on OT BRANDON GREENE to commit to ALABAMA before Uga offers, They’re doing the same with MLK’s JOSHUA OUTLAW (6′4″ 280 lb. Junior OL). They’ll wait till he commits to Florida and, after that, they’ll get on the kid. It gives them a convenient excuse. “We tried, but we were just too late, darn it. ” THE TRUTH IS, they DON’T WANT Greene and/or Outlaw, Uga’s AD McGarity (who, unfortunately, attended UGA in the early 1970s), with Richt’s blessing, has formulated this Master Plan. Recruit the likes of Greg Pyke, David Andrews, The Theus brothers, The Long bros, Dallas Lee, Kolton Houston, and on and on and on. Then, we’ll have Joe T., the strength and conditioning coach, (who, unfortunately, attended Uga in the early 1970s with McGarity) “build ‘em up” and we’ll all live happily ever after. With these guys as stating offensive lineman for The University of Georgia!! We’re going to do it “The Georgia Way”! Without the likes of Brandon Greene,Joshua Outlaw, Joe Harris, Davin Tomlinson, Vadal Alexander, Chance Warmack, Rokevious Watkins, James Carpenter, and on and on and on.. It will be really neat. “Just like the old days”.Maybe if we try really hard, we can make it just like the 1950s. The older alumni will love it, if you know what I mean (wink,wink). Richt knows this is wrong, but his philosophy is and always will be: “Whatever it takes to stay on the Gravy Train Baby,whatever it takes” Geez,what a program.

7576DAWG

October 12th, 2011
12:54 pm

Carvell
How about researching how many recruit’s leave each SEC school every year and the reason why they left. Go back 3 to 5 years.

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
12:56 pm

Tide roll- the system works so good we’ve won 3 out of 4 with Richt, besides Rivals has Pyke rated # 36 at guard and Greene only #40 at tackle. Meanwhile Theus is committed and they have a good chance at Avery Young who are rated as top ten tackles in the country. Good luck with LSU, you’ll need it.

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
1:08 pm

Tide roll-PS I’ll act like I dont know why Bama don’t recruit quarterbacks like Cam Newton and DJ Shockley if you will. People don’t remember Selma and Bull Connor for nothing.

bucket

October 12th, 2011
1:08 pm

I know this is way off topic, but has anyone heard what the resolution was to the alleged Dominque Easley assault on the former Alabama player? I saw that he was playing against LSU, but never heard what the UFPD found out in that matter,

dawgster

October 12th, 2011
1:08 pm

@Achtung…no use wishing ‘Tide Roll” good luck against LSU…He is not a real Bama fan…he uses that fake name to draw hits to his “R” rant comments and anything against Coach Richt or the dawgs…Really not sure if he actually has a team to pull for…Most schools would shy away from someone who supports the belief he does…but he is not a Bama guy, you can rest assured of that….go dawgs

dawgster

October 12th, 2011
1:09 pm

Its funny how Pyke was on alot of schools list, including Bama, but Tide Roll leaves that part out….

bucket

October 12th, 2011
1:10 pm

I think you are correct dawgster. No self-respecting Alabama fan would know that much about who UGA recruits and who they didn’t. My guess is that tide rolls is a Tech fan vicariously living his life through the UGA program.

dawgster

October 12th, 2011
1:12 pm

@Achtung…great comeback to Tide Roll regarding the QB’s at Bama….I’m not picking on Bama guys, just trying to throw it back at Tide Roll…To all Bama fans, doesn’t this guy embarrass you with some of his repetitive comments and agenda…Just asking….

dawgster

October 12th, 2011
1:13 pm

Agree bucket…been watching his comments too long on here and Bama is not his school…

Achtung

October 12th, 2011
1:23 pm

Dawgster- he’s definitely a fake Bama fan, he’s not passionate about any comments about the Tide, but he’s VERY passionate about what goes on with the Dawgs. Probably a closet Tech fan. Come on roll tide, come out of the closet!

G-Dawg

October 12th, 2011
2:44 pm

Why do ya’ll even respond to Tide Roll’s S.O.S.? If you ignore it…it will go away!!

Bob

October 12th, 2011
6:13 pm

Hey Joshua…you need to go to UGA. Being Jesse’s son, you’ll be glad to know that we have the best Journalism School.

Brainiac(Dawg For Life)

October 12th, 2011
7:16 pm

Turd roll: Your reference to “Joe T” being a UGA grad in the 70’s may be a few years off and of course you had to abreviate his last name because most Bama grads can’t spell. You best be looking for a place to go as soon as the NCAA comes to town with all the violations by Saban & Company. It is now payback time and Auburn folks are providing the NCAA with all kinds of good stuff. Payback is Hell!. Also it should not concern you how UGA/CMR decides which players to offer scholarships to. We will survive nicely with or without your contribution on here.

Columbus

October 12th, 2011
11:59 pm

Yeah, UGA offers when and who they want and does their homework. They know what they are doing and believe me, if they really like the kid, he will get an offer sooner than later. We already have a RB in 2013 class I believe and might get the #1 RB in the nation this year again. We dont have too many RB scholarships or spots available so they will be offered wisely as are ALL offers. Its like the draft and we got a list of who we want and who we might want. South Carolina offers everybody and it will bite them in the butt any time now. There are ONLY so many to go around and they are valuable. Best to be wise with them instead of offering every name in the state that pops up. There is PLENTY of talent in the state of GA to go around. The question then becomes what are our needs projected to be and who do we want. Cant get them all and cant offer them all. If you do offer them all, then theres goign to be a serious problem when you have to tell guys there offer is no longer on the table and future recruits resent a school for doing that. UGA knows what they are doing and I think they have recruited very, very well the last 10 years for the most part. Some mistakes, but they learn from it. Go Dawgs!

Columbus

October 13th, 2011
12:21 am

Dont forget we got Derrick Henry already coming in 2013…enough said.

Columbus

October 13th, 2011
12:59 am

UGA offered LB Reuben Foster when he was a freshman, seems he is going elsewhere. Heck UGA class of 2013 is looking great! Got Brice Ramsey, Derrick Henry, Trammel Terry, another RB I think thats great. He might be 2014 now that I think about it. UGA recruiting is going great, so chill out and just enjoy the top recruits coming in. We wont get them all, nobody does. We dont want them all and they all dont want to come to UGA. But we will get some great ones. We will meet some needs. Terry is like Mitchell, can play DB or WR. RB spot is looking great the next 5 years….

Hope we get Bonner from Carver. TE Kent Taylor is announcing OCT. 27th.

We got 3 OL committed so far for 2012 including 5 star John Theus the #2 ranked OL in the nation. We got what about 10 more we can sign on top of who has committed. This is what we need to focus on. The last 10 and there are some offers out to great players….2013 is going to be a great class. 2012 needs a few more great players, game changers like Crowell or Mitchell or Jarvis Jones.

Tide Roll

October 13th, 2011
8:36 am

I sure do like talking about those big ol’ mens up front. I sure wish I was a QB so I could get under center and take a snap…. Put me in coach, I’m ready to play…

Jborodawg

October 13th, 2011
11:01 am

JAWJeRDAWG @7:20 am, “…in the long run, the recruits will see that when UGA offers, it is a firm commitment…”

I agree. Saban, Miles et al probably make offers to 200 kids. CMR and staff don’t renege once an offer is made; they make a commitment and stick to it. Yes, it’d be great if we offered to every 5 star player in the state; eg make offers to ten WRs, all the while knowing we’ll only sign four or five. Other programs do that; we don’t. It’s called honesty and integrity.

With so many outstanding high school kids in GA, we cannot possibly sign all of them. Yes, we hate it when an Alabama, or a Tenn, gets a 5 star O lineman from GA. But, we can’t sign em all.

RedandBlackDawg

October 13th, 2011
3:56 pm

I am not certain, but I think this young fellow would be better off concentrating on basketball, since he seems to be more polished at that, than he is at football. He would really have to work hard to get on the field for the next couple of years. UGA has a tall WR coming in from a Prep. school, I think his name is Outlaw. He is supposed to be fairly good, so that would make it even harder for this young man to polish his skills on the field. He sure has the size, and I am sure he would improve at the position given time, but I am not sure his future doesn’t lie in basketball.

GO DAWGS and GATA

RedandBlackDawg

October 13th, 2011
3:57 pm

Tide Roll,

I am afraid the only thing you are really ready to play is with yourself.

ATL COACH

October 14th, 2011
12:32 am

@Your 1st Basketball Coach AKA Tommie Peoples’Not putting Shaq down but i’m agree with Dekalb Hoops Coach.I personally watched Shaq play for several years and nothing stands out.His Momma is his biggest problem