Armchair QB Recruiting: Should UGA have offered package deal to secure Da’Rick Rogers?

Should UGA have presented a package deal and offered Nash Nance to secure Da'Rick Rogers?

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With UGA playing Tennessee, it has brought back memories of the intense recruiting battle between the two SEC schools for Da’Rick Rogers, a longtime UGA commitment who flipped to the Vols just before signing day in 2010.

Rogers is on the brink of stardom at Tennessee, if he is not there already. He is Tennessee’s No. 1 offensive weapon, leading the Volunteers in receptions and receiving yards.

  • Here’s our “Armchair Quarterback” question for college football recruiting: Should UGA have presented a package deal – like Tennessee — and offered Calhoun High School quarterback Nash Nance to secure Rogers?

Flashback to 2010: Rogers was an AJC Super 11 selection and the state’s No. 1 overall prospect. The Calhoun High School wide receiver had been committed to the Bulldogs for seven months, while Nance was pledged to Vanderbilt, when they both were lured to Tennessee at the last minute.

It was a devastating blow for UGA. Can you imagine UGA with Rogers and AJ Green together last year? Or Rogers and the emerging Malcolm Mitchell this year?

Da'Rick Rogers

Da'Rick Rogers

Back in 2010, UGA passed over Nance (among other QB prospects) to make a late offer to Lassiter High School quarterback Hutson Mason, who surely looks like he ought to be starting for a team somewhere in college football based his limited appearances behind Aaron Murray. You could make a case that Mason might be the best backup QB in the SEC, along with LSU’s Jordan Jefferson and South Carolina’s Stephen Garcia. He’s a great insurance policy if Murray is injured.

If UGA had offered Nance, they would’ve almost surely secured Rogers but also risked losing Mason — even though there is the possibility that UGA could’ve signed both QBs.

Thoughts?

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Moobs Johnson

October 8th, 2011
6:45 am

Georgia has had a hard enough time getting rid of players with bad attitudes, they didn’t need the prima donnas of the Calhoun couple. Better off without the two than to have to deal with that drama.

Nepotism

October 8th, 2011
6:46 am

Q. How does Mike Bobo keep his job? A. His uncle (by marriage) is Vince Dooley, who hired Mark Richt. That was part of the deal. Why does the media ignore this?

Paddy

October 8th, 2011
6:49 am

This is a no brainer. We did the right thing!

WnE

October 8th, 2011
6:57 am

Not a uga fan, but uga did the right thing, mainly because if Rodgers had “kicked & stomped an off-duty Police Officer to sleep” in Athens he would have been kicked off the squad anyway so uga would have not had him around anyway.

What he did at that bar in Knoxville would only be tolerated by the Univ. of Tenn. Athletic Dept, no way does his FB Career survive what he did if he plays for uga.

Pulpwood Smith

October 8th, 2011
7:00 am

Given that if Aaron Murray stays healthy, Hutson Mason will probably never play a meaningful down at UGA. Most said we didn’t offer Nance because he woulda never played a down at UGA, so what’s the difference?

Brooksdawg

October 8th, 2011
7:34 am

Oh please… Did you read his comments yesterday? Good luck to the kid–but give me guys with M Mitchell’s attitude, talent, and love for the game. GATA

.

October 8th, 2011
7:37 am

Happy to have Hutson Mason as back up QB, which may be a huge benefit should Murray get injured. With Nance, it would be a disaster to lose Murray. Rogers did nothing last year, while UGA had AJ Green. He is having a good year this season, but I would not trade him for Malcome Mitchell. Georgia is fine without Rogers’ attitude or off the field trouble (see cop beating outside K-ville bar).

Oldboy

October 8th, 2011
7:38 am

He’s a WR and his bossom buddy is a QB, two positions where we have a whole stable of players. If he was an OL, DL or LB, maybe, but you never know how those players will turn out. As for the package deals we have made, the verdict is still out on Cootie, but Zander Ogletree got a ton of meaningful playing time as a true freshman (earning his scholly by any translation) and Theus was the best high school long snapper in the country last year, so he will definitely get meaningful playing time in the future (unless he transfers to where his brother signs if he doesn’t come here).

mike

October 8th, 2011
7:43 am

we didn’t offer harrow and Theus to land the other guys. if John and Isaiah went to other schools both had offers regardless. Nance did not have the same offer . it was only if he could bring rogers. there is a huge difference there

What?

October 8th, 2011
7:48 am

@WnE what? Please link where Darick kicked anyone! Charges were dropped vs Darick and guilty parties were dismissed! Driving 92 while drunk with three in the car got C Washington back in time for the gators! Of course since you are “not a Uga fan” you may have overlooked that!

Eisendawg

October 8th, 2011
8:09 am

Now, please run another poll on whether Da’Trick should have honored his commitment. UGA honored theirs.

cloudodust

October 8th, 2011
8:11 am

AJ Green and Da’Rick Rogers would not have been the offensive terror one might have imagined last year. Rogers wouldn’t have had the ability or opportunity as a freshman to take that position away from Durham et al as a major go-to guy after Green in 2010. He would have had some touches but beyond that, I can’t see it being the case…In regard to the package deal, it’s really no big deal. Every team’s sideline is balanced with the higher than the norm GPA players that see little play time but run scout teams and serve a purpose Sunday through Friday. Of course it’s great to have the complete GPA/athlete package in a single player but if Nash is destined to be one of those sidline guys, he still gets a free ride to his degree(s) and isn’t that suppose to be the purpose of college athletics, to a degree ( a great play on words if I must say so)

BullDawg Rick

October 8th, 2011
8:11 am

UGA & CMR did the “right thing”… Duh is borderline “trouble”…. That being said… He did what he thought was the right thing to do.. (well, on Mr. Nance’s $$$)… Wish them both luck (Lance will never sniff the field in K-Town) – cept for this evening!!

Go Dawgs!

Lester Miles

October 8th, 2011
8:13 am

What? is a what? Just because charges are dropped does not mean you didn’t do the dirty deed. There was plenty evidence that the deed was done but when you have a forgiving (or look the other way) AD and coach then you can get away with what he did. How many games did he have to sit out? I forget if he was punished. As for being drunk and driving 92 I did not hear about this account. I read that that he was charged with DUI (Driving Under the Influence) not drunk driving. You can take a dose of cold medicine or prescription pain medicine and be drowsy and therefore be under the influence. He showed a lack of intelligence by being out late at night and partying while in school to learn and play football. He did not display his cruel disposition by kicking someone while in a barfight. Neither party should be anywhere late at night and in bars or driving and drinking, The two evils beside stupidity on their part was late hours and alcohol, Stay at home if you must drink and if you must drink get some treatment for it.

1eyedJack

October 8th, 2011
8:13 am

We just didn’t need that bromance.

Eisendawg

October 8th, 2011
8:21 am

To me, he’s just like my ex-wife – gone! And, Good Riddence on both of them!

Don

October 8th, 2011
8:23 am

Hutson Mason might be the best backup QB in the SEC based on what, a few snaps against lightweight competition? Mason was barely a D-1 recruit, but he’s better than Jordan Jefferson or highly ranked and heavily recruited young QBs like Phillip Sims of Alabama and Kiehl Frazier of Auburn? More Dawg Delusion.

The problem with package deals that include players you wouldn’t otherwise offer is that it could become a status symbol for top recruits. How do you do it for Rogers and Crowell and then refuse to take the buddy of the next big recruit? You can’t waste 3 or 4 scholarships every year on players you don’t think can play in your system, and that’s where this would lead.

What?

October 8th, 2011
8:24 am

@Lester Miles police report 92 in a 55. Learned from his Former AD! Please see link!

http://redandblack.com/media/2011/10/C.-Washington-police-report.pdf

Eisendawg

October 8th, 2011
8:26 am

I’ll miss Da’Trick like I’ll miss the Phillies and Yankees! lol

chilidawg

October 8th, 2011
8:27 am

Stupid People

October 8th, 2011
8:27 am

Answer: NO

ME people will lay down on you. They will create friction amongst teammates. They aren’t worth the trouble.

UT Has Always Been Corrupt

October 8th, 2011
8:39 am

@What- what the UT 17 did at the bar was reprehensible, and the way the school, police and fans did to cover it up was worse. Two guys got knocked out, one an off-duty policeman, 17 players were directly involved and 2 were arrested. One got kicked off the team as that was his third time being in major trouble, but then miracle of miracles happen and all charges are dropped against Da’Rick and nothing ever happens to the other 15. Sure, they probably had to get up at 5am one day and run to the cafeteria, but as usual, not one of the remaining 16 players were suspended at all. The UT police and school/athletic association covered it all up. You cannot just turn a blind eye to what happens in KTown. That just makes you look ignorant just like all the fans of other schools want to say all UT fans are. You aren’t ignorant, are you, What?

What?

October 8th, 2011
8:47 am

Link please! To confirm your exaggerations! try google it is a great search engine!

Paul N Destin

October 8th, 2011
8:49 am

Dooley doesn’t need the thug either but he’ got to play the cards he was dealt for another year. Richt offers two to get one and that my friends is why you’re about 20 players short on scholly!!!! Mark Richt is pitiful when it comes to recruiting needs and managing numbers and it’s documented for you already! Two years ago Keanan Allen (5 *) was committed to Bama but he wanted Nick to take his sorry azz brother Zack Maynard (qb transfer from Buffalo) and if not then they both were head to Cal. Nick told him to shove up his behind. Zack is the starting QB at Cal and you may have seen him and Keanan play Thursday and you understand Zack is useless as a QB but the Tedford sold himself for the deal. These are the type people coaching college football these days.

Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
8:52 am

BooBoo strikes again. He’s like a spoiled brat. Didn’t like being controlled so “I’ll show them”. I’ll commit Hudson Mason (or is it Mason Hudson?) after representing to Nash that we’re not taking a QB. Totally DISRESPECTFUL behavior by a person who has no business being in the position he’s in. He and Richt have done something to frustrate the coaches at Stephenson as well. Most likely manipulating them through their treatment of Kregg Lumpkin and Gartrell’s son. Unbelievable! Will Richt and/or Bobo ever GROW UP!??

What?

October 8th, 2011
8:57 am

RedandBlackDAWG

October 8th, 2011
9:04 am

I think his problems with the law would have gotten him into trouble at UGA before he even stepped foot on the field. UGA did a wise thing. You don’t need to bribe high school kids to play for you. They either want to play or they don’t want to play for a university. If they feel they need to go to another place to feel comfortable, wish them luck and let it go. It has nothing in this case to do with the UGA coaches, so quit trying to make it seem that way. I think the kid needed to leave the state because he thought he needed a new start on his life, and then he promptly went to Tenn. and almost got derailed with a major felony, but skated out of that. These same people that are blaming CMR for not recruiting him would have had a hay day, if he had gotten into trouble here, like he did at first there. It would have been Thuga this, Thuga that, the same old crap. Most of you that post so negatively on here about anything UGA, are always looking for an excuse to spout your same old vitrol on here. There must be a team you like somewhere and can support. Go be a fan on thier blogs, as I am sure they would love to have your support.

Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
9:08 am

Far more damaging to your program is the RICHT/BOBO braintrust’s continued refusal to recruit in- state offensive lineman that could help them win. Richt and Bobo lead the UNIVERSE in ignoring in state offensive lineman that come back to beat their butt, and if that’s not enough, become stars in the NFL! MARCUS MCNEIL, DUKE ROBINSON, CHRIS SCOTT, STEPHON HEYER, JAMES CARPENTER, MAURICE HURT, and future high round draft picks, ROKEVIOUS WATKINS, CHANCE WARMACK, A.J.HAWKINS, JASON PEACOCK.and Freshman All-American OT JUJUAN JAMES! And they’re at it again. Losing JOE HARRIS to S. CAROLINA and ARMY ALL-AMERICAN BRANDON GREENE to ALABAMA! When are Georgia fans going to acknowledge the obvious and put an end to it. You won’t because you agree with it. This is why your progeam sucks all the time. After Richt/Bobo are gone, for God’s sake get somebody in there that’s COLOR-BLIND ! Get two ADULTS to serve as your head coach and offensive coordinator!

Big Enos Burdette

October 8th, 2011
9:09 am

Richt was right

Don

October 8th, 2011
9:09 am

And as far as SEC backup QBs go, Zach Mettenberger was competing with Murray for the starter’s job before he was booted from Georgia. Now that he’s at LSU, apparently he’s not as good as Hutson Mason. Give me a break.

JD

October 8th, 2011
9:12 am

He was second receiver on TN until injury to the best. UGA has some very good young receivers. Too bad the dad didn’t let his son go to Vanderbilt.

Russ, the Temporary Mascot

October 8th, 2011
9:24 am

Da’Richt should have gotten Da’Rick as it is he’s gone to De’Rek.

Old Dawg

October 8th, 2011
9:25 am

Fact check… Hutson Mason was Parade mag 2nd team All American… with huge passing #’s from Lasssiter H.S…. will we need him ??? I think he should be given more playing time… like when Murray completes his 1st pass to Tenn. defense… Richt coach the offense… call the plays… Grantham will win on defense… Go Dawgs !!!

Destin Dawg

October 8th, 2011
9:28 am

Tide Roll…. they passed on Alan Posey… right here in Athens… he loved the Dawgs…. they never offered… I think he’ll be starting for Tenn. today ??

Don't misrepesent things, TR

October 8th, 2011
9:32 am

You imply that UGA did not recruit some of these players. The Dogs went hard after a number of linemen you listed above, but didn’t get them. Are you the only poster out there that thinks that Richt should be able to sign any Georgia native he offers? Would that it were so, but we are not living in a fantasy world.

Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
9:34 am

UGA Fans, Read the Chattanooga Paper’s interview with DA’RICK RODGERS. Richt and Bobo’s failure to sign JUJUAN JAMES led directly to him convincing Rodgers to decommit and sign with Tennessee when they were on their way to the US ARMY ALL-AMERICAN BOWL. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.Only Richt and Bobo could pull this off ! Unbelievable. Two future NFLers, both from the State of Georgia and both gone to your Eastern Division rival!. How do you lose a kid that’s committed to you for 8 months anyway?! Is it any wonder you’re the laughing stock of the SEC? There’s something wrong with your under acheiving program, and it’s not just ON THE FIELD.

Flo-Ri-Duh

October 8th, 2011
9:35 am

No! Duh’Rick did what he wanted to do. He is going to be a problem for Dooley at some point.

BOOGIES THE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

October 8th, 2011
9:37 am

Tonight in Knoxville will show Da’dick looks best in roadside (with trash bag in hand) orange….

DAWGS—31

Raunchy-top— 3

vinny ocean

October 8th, 2011
9:38 am

Hell yeah we should have. I thought Coach Richt learned his lesson from that one when he offered Isaiah’s buddy and got John Theus’s brother in here. BUT HE DROPPED THE BALL WHEN HE DIDNT OFFER DENZEL NKEMDICHE!!! WHY WOULDN’T YOU IMPROVE YOUR CHANCES WITH HIS BROTHER ROBERT???

Hindsight is 20-20, Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
9:38 am

Considering there are about 150 major college signees annually out of this state, that DO NOT sign with UGA, after 4 years you have a pool of 500-600 players. It is EASY to pick out, after the fact, some Georgia natives that were sleepers who developed into good players.

You could look back at LSU, Bama, Florida, anyone and discover some players they missed out on in the recruiting process that became stars.

BOOGIES THE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

October 8th, 2011
9:41 am

TIDE ROLLED(AKA YELLOW BUG).

SIUYFA.

Destin Dawg

October 8th, 2011
9:41 am

I’d love to see the old Richt from the FSU early UGA years… foot on the gas play calling…. trickeration… Bowden called ” punterooisky. “….

Jujuan James and Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
9:46 am

Tide Roll, are you aware Georgia tried to sign James? Are you aware you cannot force a player to sign with you?

Talking about the “failure” of UGA to sign James, could also be applied to Nick Saban, who “failed” to sign Cam Newton out of Juco.

And you, on this board, offered up one of the lamest excuses I have ever heard, saying that Saban thought Newton was a lock to UGA (and I am talking about coming out of Juco) and therefore did not recruit Newton hard for that reason.

I am not a Bama fan, but that is insulting to Coach Saban. How many people on this board believe that a coach obsessed with detail like Saban would not know every thing going on in his recruitment?

The answer, please

October 8th, 2011
9:59 am

No.

Why? The kid immediately got into some bar room fight trouble when he arrived in Koxville. Period, End of story.

Goooooooooooooooooooo Dogs.

Tide Roll

October 8th, 2011
10:01 am

The article mentions that JUJUAN JAMES attended N.Gwinnett High School, and it goes on to state that the High School is only 45 minutes from UGA’s Campus! It’s so funny. Richt Bobo like to think of themselves as “Cutting Edge” They act all cocky and all. It’s hilarious to see them act out this way, knowing all the time they evaluated and recruited the the greatest collegiate Quarterback of all time as a TIGHT END! Most people didn’t realize this until Richt WENT PUBLIC WITH IT! Cam’s high school was 45 minutes from Athens as well. You couldn’t make this stuff up in a millon years. Only Richt and Bobo can pull this off. They’re funnier than your “RED PANTIES” AD. And that’s saying alot!

Baby Blue

October 8th, 2011
10:04 am

Mark Richt recruiting Cam Newton as a tight end was a Hall of Fame blunder.

Kids change

October 8th, 2011
10:07 am

Grew up in Atlanta area. My grandfather and two uncles were GT grads, and I loved Bobby Dodd and GT in those days. HIS SON played for Florida, by the way.

I applied to AU, GT and UGA and was accepted by all three, made my mind up, attended and graduated from UGA and so, I changed my stripes. Kids of today do the same thing.

It is impossible to know who is gonna do what n college. George Rogers out of Duluth signed with SC and he was clse to 5′10″ and 180 as a HS back, but when he got to SC he grew and to his credit won the Heisman. Who knew? Maybe Ray Goff who signed him.

UGA signed Walker and Clemson did not. Things happen.

Hind sight is always 20-20.

UGA’s Captain for the Cotton Bowl in 75 was from state of Pennsylvania and who knew that some slender kid named David Shwack would end up captain of the Junkyard Dogs? How about Richard Tardits of France? He was like 6th in Heisman votes one year, I think. Sack expert he was. Rugby player from France.

Go Dogs.

Um, ah, another name to make my point

October 8th, 2011
10:14 am

Out of Texas in 1980 or 81 was a tall, skinny but very inntelligent Safety named Terry Houge. He was not recruited by anyone and actually came to UGA by accident.

He was in the Heisman mix as a Safety and played in World Football League and the NFL and now grows grapes in Napa Valley. He also graduated in Genetics, or something similar.

He was an accident and he impacted many UGA games …………many games did he affect with his stellar play, while at UGA> An accident. See? The magic of College football.

Stop with all of the 14 year old quibbling on here about so and so. You all are not even college grads, I suspect.

Go Dogs.

Bull

October 8th, 2011
10:24 am

This is a dumb question. It was only after we told the Nance family we were not taking a QB that class (which we weren’t going to until Logan Gray moved to WR) that we offered Mason which pissed the Nance family off. He wanted to go to UGA. Darick was still committed until the Nance family solicited to UT and Kiffen. UT can keep em both. Darick doesn’t fit into the culture now that Richt is trying to get away from with those types of players.

Anyone defending the cop stomp by UT players and lack of backbone by Derrick Dooley to kick them off has no grounds to say anything about C Washington. Not to mention the Fulmer Cup is named after their players

OC_Dawg

October 8th, 2011
10:26 am

Here’s another question to ask yourself. What was better for Nash? Sticking with Vandy or dropping them for UT? Everyone and their mother know that Nash will never see a snap at UT. He had a much better chance of playing at Vandy. In my opinion Nash screwed up the worst in this story.