Armchair QB Recruiting: Should UGA have signed another RB to go with Isaiah Crowell?

Should UGA have tried to sign one more RB for the Dream Team?

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Until somebody else commits (which could be any minute based on how this week is going), we’re going to play “Armchair Quarterback” with college football recruiting.

Here’s the question: Should UGA have recruited another RB to go along with Isaiah Crowell in this past year’s “Dream Team” recruiting class?

Of course, Georgia’s ever-thinning depth at RB is a big topic of conversation. In the span of a week, a linebacker was moved to tailback and then promoted to No. 1 on the depth chart heading into the preseason, according to the AJC’s Chip Towers. (Yes, we know the No. 1 is Richard Samuel, who has the most experience on the team at RB. But still …)

That all leads us back to Crowell, who was No. 1-rated RB in the nation and held up a puppy on National Signing Day after picking UGA over Alabama. He’s been called “the next Marcus Lattimore” so many times that UGA officials are trying to fit it on the back of his jersey.

If you worried about UGA’s RB depth now, think about if Crowell had put on an Alabama baseball cap that fateful day? The AJC’s Chip Towers addressed the possibility here. I’ll sum it up for you: Recruiting Crowell was the ultimate gamble of the “Dream Team.” UGA recruited Crowell and pretty much no one else at the position. There was no backup plan. That’s how confident UGA was about the situation. But pretty scary when you’re dealing with teenagers that can sometimes be unpredictable.

Back to the “Armchair Quarterback” question: Should UGA have recruited another RB to go along with Crowell?

UGA's approach to recruit Isaiah Crowell as all-or-nothing as the only Dream Team RB target was bold but paid off in the end (AJC photo)

UGA's approach to recruit Isaiah Crowell as all-or-nothing as the only Dream Team RB target was bold but paid off in the end (AJC photo)

Looking back now, especially after the abrupt departures of Caleb King and Washuan Ealey, the obvious answer would be “yes.”

But I think “no.” I think UGA placing all of its bets on Crowell as the only RB they were really recruiting was a deciding factor for Crowell. For UGA, it was “high risk, high reward” recruiting at its finest. Well, that’s only if Crowell meets the lofty expectations. If he doesn’t, it may be painful watching Marcus Caffey and Josh Clemons at Kentucky.

What are your thoughts? Please post them below.

  • UPDATE: 2013 UGA QB commit Brice Ramsey will be attending Florida’s “Friday Night Lights” football camp. Ramsey is going for the purposes of competing against other quarterbacks and working on his passing skills.

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178 comments Add your comment

Techie

July 22nd, 2011
7:20 am

Dream Team 2 what a joke. Your last two recruits are an offensive lineman ripped out of the mighty hands of Georgia State and South Alabama, and a quarterback who has never started a game in high school. That’s really impressive.

TommyP

July 22nd, 2011
7:33 am

8 other running backs were offered last year by UGA.

Techie: Ignorance is bliss, eh? The QB Georgia signed is going to be very highly ranked. Several are saying he’s the best QB out of Georgia in many years.

The Samoan OL that is 6′5″, 333 and runs like a guy 80 pounds lighter? First camp he ever went to last week was Dawg Night. His film is not out there. But it will be.

RedandBlackDAWG

July 22nd, 2011
7:39 am

UGA had enough RB’s to play this year, but nobody could know that Ealey, King and now it appears, Carlton, would turn out like they did.
There are only 85 scholarships to give each year.
Now as for you techie. Until your sorry butt team, can beat UGA on even a half consistent basis, I think you need to refrain from commenting on UGA football. The QB you mention is two years down the road by the way, and most likely will start a bunch of games for his team the next two year. Quit being jealous, and start hoping your team becomes significant in the future.

bad brad

July 22nd, 2011
7:44 am

I’m thinking Crowell is the real deal. We will find out soon enough. Samuel was a good runner, he just ran too straight up. Maybe he can get the lean going and have a great year. I think he is a great example of team player and wish him the best.

Brown Dog

July 22nd, 2011
7:45 am

Mark Richt went all in on IC, up to and including knowingly violating the rules with the “There’s a spot out there for a runningback” stunt on the last recruiting trip.

He did not want to give his star recruit any reason to go elsewhere. It’s a gamble coaches sometimes take, and it won’t matter much if UGA lands Keith Marshall. Miss on him or any other top target, and the coaching staff is looking at real problems over the next couple of years.

Tech REALIST

July 22nd, 2011
7:52 am

@TommyP I can’t wait until the film comes out on that highly, highly, highly recruited OL. Hopefully it will be better than that YouTube video from middle school of your QB lololol. How did you like that film? There’s going to a big difference between Camden Co Middle School and the SEC, don’t you think?

Top Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
7:53 am

Sorry Techie, but UGA doesn’t wait until Scout and Rivals give him five stars to offer him a scholarship. They (UGA staff members) do their homework, and when he gets noticed and a few offers, Scout and Rivals jump on the bandwagon. Wake up.

7576DAWG

July 22nd, 2011
7:55 am

With a much bigger need to get the depth that Grantham needed on defense to run the 3-4 and with LeMay coming in I don’t think we needed another running back. LeMay and Murray are running Quarterbacks and we had Ealey and King on the team. We didn’t know that both would be leaving and it was too late to recruit a top running back unless we were willing to accept another Thomas type that is too small for the SEC. In a pinch there are at least 3 other players that ran the ball in high school we could move to running back or two walk on players that we could try. Great running backs will not sit on the bench. They expect to play as freshmen and will leave early for pro after their junior year or they will be red shirted their first year and leave after their sophomore year.

chazzo

July 22nd, 2011
7:57 am

bad brad: Samuel does have a weird running style, “too straight up,” as you say. But, let’s face it, if he can hold on to the ball and get at least 4 ypg, he can bunny hop for all I care. LOL

ATL IX

July 22nd, 2011
7:58 am

NEWS ALERT!! I just read on the 247 message boards that Georgia State called Chester Adams and DEMANDED that he decommit .,. … Dawg fans, are you worried???? lololol

rhall55

July 22nd, 2011
8:01 am

I still think we should have offered Josh Clemons; son of Charlie Clemons, former UGA DE, present NFL Player; very good, tough RB (in the mold of Richard Samuel), could have kept RS on defense where he has been practicing; also, in state kid who is pushing KY on GA High School players and keep the linage on for the Clemons family!!! Next would have been Caffey, best friends with DS out of Grady, who wanted to come to UGA; if neither came, JC route!! Just “Win, Baby, Win”!! “You Snooze, You Lose”!!!

chazzo

July 22nd, 2011
8:02 am

Given these great backs dispersed around the SEC, the success of Lattimore at SC, and the departure of Meyer/Tebow from FL, and Defenses better defending the spread, look for more coaches to pound out the clock with running plays.

Irony is....

July 22nd, 2011
8:03 am

a TECHIE talking smack about the (potential) quality of any other school’s recruits. Even the haters agree recruiting has not been one of Georgia’s problems. You are a bitter moron.

chazzo

July 22nd, 2011
8:07 am

Techie, the key is not to play them should they become ineligible.

Irony is....

July 22nd, 2011
8:12 am

@ATL IX: That was soooooo funny. I can’t stop laughing. How witty. I’ll bet you’re a killer in the bars…

Buford dad

July 22nd, 2011
8:14 am

don’t forget that coach richt recruited cam newton at TE. that was the all-time worst recruiting decision. oh whatever happened to the five star QUARTERBACK from missouri??????

Cmon man

July 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

Man must be a slow day for the ajc because you guys are reaching. To answer the question at the time cmr did the right rb depth was not an issue the problem was rb production. Uga had 4 scholarship rbs at signing day I guess cmr is supposed to be a coach and a psychic

CountryBlumpkin

July 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

ATL IX, If you are going to try and cause a panic, atleast get the recruit’s name right. I’m assuming you meant Chester Brown. Good one though…no seriously…funny stuff.

NoGaGator

July 22nd, 2011
8:27 am

Hindsight is a wonderful and futile thing.

That said, given from what we’ve read from posters here about IC’s character – Facebook and on-field behavior during HS football games – he sounds high risk/high reward. People on here are also talking about IC coming to school out-of-shape with a sense of entitlement (not a big surprise, given how this paper and Richt have pandered to him).

So yes, UGA would have been prudent to bring in someone else. Had they done so however, IC probably would have gone somewhere else. UGA is definitely “all in” with this kid. I hope he grows up.

Phil

July 22nd, 2011
8:29 am

Tech REALIST- Playing QB for Camden Co. says a lot. Camden Co. football team is constantly a contender for the 5A state championship each year. They play top teams from Florida as well. The coaching staff at Camden Co. is one of the best in the country. So give the kid a chance, and then come back after high school football season is over. Then everyone make their comments. The same goes for the OL as well.

Sleepy Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
8:39 am

I love the dawgs getting Chester Brown but he needs a cooler name or a nickname if he is really Somoan.

RRTDawgs

July 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

Two words Kieth Marshall .

Joey

July 22nd, 2011
8:45 am

You would think the Techies would have a little more to worry about these days than UGA recruiting.

BigTimeTechFan

July 22nd, 2011
8:48 am

UGA did recruit other RB’s:
Quan Bray
Shon Carson
Malcolm Brown
Aaron Green

All received offers to UGA, plus I’m sure they had one on stand by in case Crowell picked Bama

SugarHillDawg

July 22nd, 2011
8:50 am

Hey techie, those recruits kinda remind you of what Tech recruits huh? I take that back, maybe a little too lofty.

Summit Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

@ Chazzo…..Do you really expect BoBo to pound it out with running plays??…..With his and Richts
scheme, they don’t really need a great running back, just a great “blocking back!” Guess we’ll all see come September 3rd!!!!!!

SugarHillDawg

July 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

BTW, we shouldn’t have recruited another RB. How many schools lose BOTH their RB’s in the same preseason??

Gary

July 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

I am more concerned Bout our lack of depth on the O line. I do not care how good a running back is, without a strong line he has no where to run.

UGA #47

July 22nd, 2011
8:53 am

@BigTimeTechFan, yes CMR threw out some offers to other RBs early but it was only IC down the stretch. Pretty d@mn crazy I know ….. but it WORKED. IC for HEISMAN!

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/01/31/what-if-georgia-bulldogs-fail-to-land-rb-isaiah-crowell/

Bob Loblaw

July 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

Silly Nerds. We don’t call this class “Dream Team 2.” I don’t know where you got that. That being said, Tech’s recruiting is a Nightmare! Worry about your own team, buddy. The QB that committed is a 2013 recruit and is regarded to be a top 3 QB in the nation. Tech can’t even sign a QB from Georgia.

Carvell

No. We should not have signed another RB. Hindsight is 20/20, right? We are in the lead for Keith Marshall this year. Once again, the #1 ranked RB in the nation. Not too shabby if you ask me.

Go Dawgs and TGIF.

Patrick

July 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

Techie – Obviously you have no clue what you’re talking about. Our last two recruits for Dream Team 2 were both OL. One is a 5 star and a top 3 OT according to both scouts and rivals. The other is a 330lb monster who has very few offers because before last weekend, he had never attended a camp. Georgia offered on the spot due to his size and athleticism… two things you cannot coach. Two of the three guys UGA picked up for 2013 (Henry and Ramsey) are both locks to be 5 star prospects according to the guys over at Scout.

I could take shots at Tech for the probation or recruits you have lined up, but well… that’s just too easy.

Valdosta Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

I’m sorry but Coach McClendon needs to give back half of his doubled salary. How hard is it to monitor four RBs in the offseason? Four people? How hard is that? Walk them to class, hold their hands, tuck them in bed, whatever you have to do to keep them eligible. This is ridiculous losing two veterans right before the season. We’re the laughingstock of the SEC. A freaking LB from last week is our No. 1 RB? You couldn’t make that stuff up. We need some accountability. This one is on Coach McClendon.

RedandBlackDAWG

July 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

Here we have Tech. making fun of us, recruiting a beast at OL, when their England football player is going over to get coached by some good coaches this weekend at Alabama. Want to make a bet about which player has more of an impact for his team?

Paul N Destin

July 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

UGA will have to depend on injury luck this year and that can happen. If you can’t run the ball then you’re done in the SEC because the defense will adjust and gamble thus your passing game will suffer as well. Bama had Mark and Trent and at one point last year both were hurt so you need that luck.

suwanee dawg

July 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

It’s hard to be sure on anything in the recruiting world, but I have a really good feeling about Chester Adams. Word is he was a beast on Dawg night. We can all question coaches and at times have a basis to do so, but I suspect they saw something special. Say what you want about Chester, but you may regret it. Go Dawgs!

Hey Techie

July 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

You jest that UGA’s latest O line commit was “riped out of the hands of S Alabama and GSU.”

Ripped? Sort of like the sad, pathetic ACC TROPHY WAS RIPPED OUT OF the GT Sledge Center by the NCAA?????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA,AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

gamecock

July 22nd, 2011
9:07 am

PLEASE STOP WITH THE MARCUS COMMENTS.

THIS GUY HASNT PLAYED A DOWN OF COLLEGE BALL

ONCE HE ACCOMPLISHED THE THINGS MARCUS DID, THEN COMPARE HIM BUT UNTIL THEN PLEASE STOP WITH THIS.

HE HAS A LONG WAY TO GO.

Frank Lane

July 22nd, 2011
9:09 am

Actually Derrick Henry who is committed for 2012 is better than Crowell. Take a look at both on you tube and you decide.

Mr. Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
9:11 am

Ahhh the gift of hindsight… I don’t think it’s a reach to believe that the public and media were kept in the dark about just how strongly Crowell had committed. I’m not so naive as to think that he could have backed out on a secret committment. But all other criticism aside CMR and the staff aren’t stupid and I believe that focusing solely on Crowell was not a high risk gamble. Recruiting another back may have actually left a crack in the commitment. Lets’ not forget that the Bulldogs are only in this position because they have lost two other potential starters that were in the mix. Plus they’ve had both Thomas and Malcome as back ups all along. Going six deep at the running back position when there were spots that are barely two deep would have been worthy of critcism in my mind.

rock steady freddy

July 22nd, 2011
9:13 am

PLEASE STOP COMPARING HIM TO MARCUS LATTIMO. CROWELL WILL BE 5 TIMES THE BACK LATTIMO IS. PLUS, DID ANYONE SEE THE LICK PUT ON LATTIMO BY GEORGIA BOY, GREG REID….ALMOST KILLED HIM.

Patrick

July 22nd, 2011
9:14 am

Derrick Henry is a 2013 recruit Frank. But, yes… he has LOTS of upside and potential to go along with his huge frame. I’ve read on both scouts and rivals that may be the top player coming out of FL next year and possibly even the top RB in the country.

Tossed Salad

July 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

Techies are like those little gophers in that game where they pop up and you smash them over the head. They know they’re going to get punished, yet they keep coming back for more. It’d be sad if it wasn’t so darn funny…

slydog

July 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

It was hard for UGA to get Crowell to sign, let alone any other running back or recruit. The way King and Ealey left the team was through simply being selfish, non-committed, and lazy. Those types are usually hard to detect until your’re all the way in to a program. Do not forget about Malcolme. Crowell and Malcolme could possibly be the next thunder and lightning combo (Cadillac Williams/Ronnie Brown). That is, if CMR goes back to calling the plays.

JB

July 22nd, 2011
9:17 am

To the Yech crowd.I guess you guys ( busy studying Tech’s legal briefs for appeal I guess) missed the write up that Georgia was #2 in recruiting for the last 10 years, and to find Tech’s ranking you ALWAYS Have to ” click here to see full list”. Second, the kid from Grady high who I think ended up at Kentucky wanted to be a Dawg bad, but was not offered. He reminds me of the Poole kid from Toccoa
who at Tennessee who also wanted to be a Dawg. Yes, we should of signed them both.

PTCruisin

July 22nd, 2011
9:17 am

Foresight and judgment is not something Mark Richt excels in.

Look at the offensive line, wide receivers, and running back. Should they all be thin?

And, you should have recruited someone to compete with Crowell, so he doesn’t coast.

1953Dawg

July 22nd, 2011
9:18 am

Did UGA coaches have a plan B if the Dream Child had of chosen Bama? Are you kidding me. This staff has never had a plan B since Richt has been at UGA. What about our plan B for the O.L. if someone got hurt or flunked out? What about plan B if and when A.J. left for the NFL? Again no depth at W.R. either. What if Murray had of gotten hurt last year? What was plan B? What is Plan B now that Jarvis might be out? Again no depth there either. Not to mention the secondary, where UGA doesn’t even have a Plan A. Worst safety combo in the SECE. Compare out safety position with Tenn. and it is scary, and Dooley and his staff have been there one year. This staff got by on alot of luck Richt’s first3 or 4 years, plus they had Donnan’s recruits, since those players left, it has been nothing but lack of depth year after year at almost every position, especially the O.L. where UGA started 3 freshmen 4 years ago, and 2 true freshmen 3 years ago. Totally pathetic, hopefully McGarity has a Plan B for Richt and his staff after this year, but after listening and watching him so far, i seriously doubt it.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 22nd, 2011
9:18 am

Heck I like having the few RB we have. It gives Bobo less to think about. Last think we need Bobo to do is to try and out think the room.

Cockadoodle

July 22nd, 2011
9:19 am

Isaiah Crowell is NO Marcus Lattimore. Crowell played for an itsy bitsy AA school in Georgia’s weakest region with 20 (yes 20) seniors that signed to play college ball. It was an team of all stars. What did Crowell Do? He got shut down a bunch of country farmers from Calhoun high school in the playoffs. I was there. I saw it. I can promise you the Gamecocks and “the real #1 recruit” Clowney will be tougher than Calhoun baffoon high school. Go Cocks!!!!!!!!!!!

chazzo

July 22nd, 2011
9:20 am

@Summit Dawg: Thanks for reading my post. Perhaps you should read it again. I never said aything about Richt and Bobo pounding the running game. I merely pointed out that there are a plethora of great RBs coming along in the SEC. Too numerous to list here. I expect to see more coaches (in general) emphasizing the straight running game now that Defenses have adjusted to the spread. Look for more recruitment of large running backs. Just a hunch.

I will say, though, that the strong recruitment of Isaiah Crowell may signify Richt’s acknowledgement of the hunch. He sure ran a bunch with Knowshon and Musa. Even with the running back by committee approach with Lumpkin, Brown, Ware, et al UGA put up respectful running yards even without a 1000 yard rusher. You will always see a balanced attack at UGA, but I don’t think Richt is as pass happy as some contend.

slydog

July 22nd, 2011
9:21 am

18 months is a lllooonnggg time waiting on Henry to sign on that line. Let’s not forget the fresh blood at FSU, UF, and Miami. If Crowell and Malcolme are successful during the next two seasons, those schools will be dropping bagmen by his home daily. Here is a thought: How many players LOOKED better on film in high school? Do you really think that if Crowell is successful, Henry will still be better TWO years from now? Nah, I don’t think so.