Georgia Tech QB commit Dennis Andrews may re-open his recruiting after NCAA probation

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At least one Georgia Tech football recruit says he may be looking elsewhere after the ACC school was handed NCAA probation on Thursday.

QB Dennis Andrews Jr., who committed to Georgia Tech last month, said his uncle had a "bad experience" with NCAA probation while playing at Alabama

QB Dennis Andrews Jr., who committed to Georgia Tech last month, said his uncle had a "bad experience" with NCAA probation while playing at Alabama

Georgia Tech’s “quarterback of the future”  – Dennis Andrews Jr. of Tallahassee, Fla. — told the AJC that the NCAA ruling “will probably open up things a little bit” with his recruiting.

Andrews is the son of former Florida State fullback Dennis Andrews, and said his uncle Carlos Andrews played safety for Alabama when it was under NCAA probation. The younger Andrew committed to Georgia Tech after attending camp last month.

“It may affect my commitment; I’m going to talk to my dad about it and then we’ll see what we want to do,” Andrews told the AJC. “I know my dad isn’t a fan of NCAA probation at all. They had a bad experience with it when my uncle was at Alabama.”

Georgia Tech has seven commitments for its 2012 recruiting class. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution contacted six of Georgia Tech’s seven commitments on Thursday night, and five out of six said they remained “100 percent” with the Yellow Jackets.

All of them expressed surprise with Thursday’s news.

“One of my friends texted me about it and I thought they were kidding,” said linebacker Tyler Stargel of Gulf Shores, Ala. “Then I saw it for myself and read about it. I think it’s a major thing for any school when they get NCAA probation. But it’s not like Georgia Tech was paying anybody.

“Everybody knows that kind of stuff goes on at every school. It doesn’t really get caught. But every once in a while, someone does get caught for something.”

Stargel said he remains committed to the Yellow Jackets. “I don’t think the NCAA probation affects me in the four years I’ll be there. It doesn’t make me feel any different about Georgia Tech. I’m still going there.”

However, Stargel said he did plan on attending football camps at Auburn on Saturday and Mississippi State next Friday. Stargel made it clear that his summer itinerary has nothing to do with Georgia Tech’s NCAA problems.

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“I just want to be around competition and be around other players,” Stargel said. “I’m a competitive person. I want to compete against other players at these camps. I want to go see other places. This is the one time in your life that you get to do this. I want to get the experience.

“It doesn’t mean I’m going to go anywhere else. I’m a Georgia Tech commitment, for sure.”

Lanier County defensive end Junior Gnonkonde said he felt comfortable about the situation after speaking over the telephone with Georgia Tech assistant Todd Spencer on Thursday.

“Coach Spencer said they were doing good and that everything was going to OK,” Gnonkonde said. “I’m still committed to Georgia Tech. I still want to go there. I don’t think it’s a big deal.”

Wide receiver Micheal Summers of Statesboro said he was unaware about Thursday’s developments until told about it by a reporter.

“I am surprised, but it doesn’t change my outlook on anything,” Summers said. “I still have the same respect for the coaching staff as I did before.”

Central Gwinnett defensive end Francis Kallon said he got the news from his high school coaches. Kallon is new to the sport after moving last year from London, England. He said it wouldn’t affect his pledge to Georgia Tech.

“It’s something serious, but it won’t affect me or the other players coming in on scholarship next year,” Kallon said. “I’m still committed to Georgia Tech because I keep my word. I don’t have time to start over with recruiting and look at other colleges. My total focus and commitment is on mastering the game of football.”

Greater Atlanta Christian offensive lineman Chase Roberts, who was Georgia Tech’s first commitment for 2012, said, “I have all the confidence in the world in Georgia Tech. The NCAA stuff doesn’t shake my position at all.”

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Lanier County DE Junior Gnonkonde says he still gets letters from UGA, Nebraska and Florida but says he remains "100 percent" committed to Georgia Tech (AJC photo by Michael Carvell)

Back to Dennis Andrews: He committed to Georgia Tech over Vanderbilt among his 14 early scholarship offers, which also included South Carolina, Arkansas and South Florida. Andrews picked Georgia Tech for several reasons, including its engineering program and Tech’s plan to play him at quarterback. He is being recruited by Vanderbilt at the WR position.

Andrews said he hasn’t really had any direct contact with Vanderbilt, but that the Commodores talked with his high school coach. He’s also friends with a couple of Vanderbilt commitments who are trying to convince him to switch. Andrews said he hadn’t even thought about another school until Thursday’s NCAA developments.

“Quarterback is my natural position, and the only position I’ve played forever,” Andrews said. “I have aspirations to be a pro football player, and some people have told me I can move closer to that goal by playing wide receiver or defensive back. I’m not sure … ”

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135 comments Add your comment

GT Alum

July 14th, 2011
9:43 pm

Wonder if he does open things up if CPJ will understand, or if his offer will be pulled.

twest

July 14th, 2011
9:56 pm

We have one tech fan at work, a week ago he was bragging about tech. Tomorrow god help his soul! Remember those hulk dogs on The Incredible Hulk? He will know what they feel like LOL!!!!!

techfan

July 14th, 2011
10:01 pm

If he is opening up his recruitment this fast then he was probably going to open it back up anyways. Nothing that happened today affects him at all.

Worm

July 14th, 2011
10:05 pm

Son, Vad Lee is GT’s next QB..Time for you to look elsewhere.

Big Ten Champs Nebraska

July 14th, 2011
10:06 pm

He can come to Nebraska, where stuff like this never happens.

It's not good

July 14th, 2011
10:10 pm

I wonder if Johnson and Rad will give the 2011 class a chance for unconditional release, since they may never be able to win anything. Maybe even the 2010 class as well. I would sure hate to have my freshman year coming up and know I will never be able to win a bowl game, assuming that is part of the punishment.

Techy

July 14th, 2011
10:12 pm

Dude, this infraction has nothing to do with you Dennis….since you have no clue…please go elsewhere

Michael Carvell

July 14th, 2011
10:13 pm

@Techy, thanks for your comment. In fairness to Dennis, he just wants to talk with his father first before making a concrete decision. Due to his uncle’s bad experience with this sort of thing, I think it’s only natural for him to want to look a little closer, or at least talk with Georgia Tech’s coaches before rushing anything. I’m sure all the recruits have questions for Georgia Tech’s coaches, and I’m sure they will all hear from Paul Johnson or his staff within the next 24 hours, or over the weekend.

Techy

July 14th, 2011
10:14 pm

Its not good, why would anyone want to go after this news?? Did you even see the penalties? This has no impact on the teams future.

Dave

July 14th, 2011
10:15 pm

@It’s not good – what? There’s no lost schollys or bowl ban.

Paul in RDU

July 14th, 2011
10:22 pm

Nope – the University of Nebraska is as pure as the driven snow and has never committed an infraction in football. Apart from giving extra money for test books to athletes, that is – reported way back on July 5th, 2011
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110705/BIGRED/110709911

Lasso

July 14th, 2011
10:26 pm

As if there needed to be another reason why it sucks to be a Tech football fan.

Michael Carvell

July 14th, 2011
10:31 pm

@mp, yes. I heard Vad Lee was the “real deal” from Georgia Tech’s coaches this spring. They thought he was heavily under-rated by the recruiting services and has the chance to make an immediate impact, which is rare for a freshman QB. As far as Dennis Andrews, I think he has a bright future for competing at the QB position for Georgia Tech, too. Vad Lee has a one-year headstart, and would have the edge if Dennis was reporting this summer. However, I wouldn’t count out Mr. Andrews. He can make things happen, too. And don’t forget you’re watching the junior film of Dennis. Let’s see how he looks as a senior.

jojo

July 14th, 2011
10:36 pm

As far as I am concerned it’s time for coach Johnson to depart. He obious has no control. Lousy recuiting and a mental appoach that has him stuck in one offensive mode is a enought for me.

Dennis Andrews Sr.

July 14th, 2011
10:48 pm

@Michael Carvell, thanks. Den10 is G.A. Tech commit…God bless those with negative comments. Seminole/Crimson Tide/G.A. Tech, Don’t hide behind screen names. Check out G.A. Tech commit ————— http://www.ihigh.com/gulfcoast7on7/broadcast_167656.html?silverlight=1

nash

July 14th, 2011
10:53 pm

The guys that where mentioned where not Paul Johnson recruits they came form the previous regime and, for the most part I don’t see how this should effect recruits it hurts the program loosing that ACC title but, that is another story in itself.

Nick

July 14th, 2011
10:56 pm

Dennis has a right to be concerned. That said GT would still love to have him. If he wants to be an engineer there is no better choice. If he wants to be a DB, I’m sure GT will still recruit him at that position.

You're my Boy Blue

July 14th, 2011
10:56 pm

I’m sure GA Southern is disappointed it won’t be able to sway any of Tech’s recruits. Seriously, most of Tech’s kids weren’t heavily recruited by any other major school of note – do you really think this slap on the wrist is going to change their mind and go to GSU, Mid Tenn St, or Elon?

mp

July 14th, 2011
11:05 pm

@Tech Fan . . . i’m wondering the same thing–what’s this guy smoking? vad lee’s on board, carvell. ever heard of him? i like andrews, don’t get me wrong. but, vad’s the real deal. expect to see him under center (maybe even the shotgun) come 2012.

mp

July 14th, 2011
11:09 pm

@You’re my Boy Blue . . . im a southern grad and eagle through and through. but, none of those kids are gonna jump ship to head to statesboro. even micheal summers, who goes to statesboro HS, is a solid commit. oh, and summers IS being coveted by some major schools of note. ever heard of florida? kallon’s has HUGE potential and is getting lots of major college interest. junior’s getting letters from st. richt and FL as the article above points out. should i go on?

Michael Carvell

July 14th, 2011
11:23 pm

To the person who keeps posting and spamming under multiple screen names, please discontinue.

I can assure you that if UGA — or Georgia State, for that matter — gets in any trouble with the NCAA or has a coaching change, we will get reaction from their recruits, too.

To everybody, we appreciate your comments. Please keep them on the blog topic.

GIVE ME A BREAK

July 14th, 2011
11:23 pm

This kind of stuff happens everywhere. I’m not a fan of the NCAA. GT will do just fine with this. A good learning experience. Seems like Bud P. made a bad call. I hate to see athletes punished for someone elses mistakes. ” GO JACKETS “

mp

July 14th, 2011
11:26 pm

@michael carvell . . . don’t get me wrong, i love the vids i’ve seen of dennis. but, he’s the class of 2012 and not first in line to be the savior, haha! let’s not overlook the fact tech has their first, true dual-threat QB on campus as we speak in vad.

Dollar Bill

July 14th, 2011
11:28 pm

This is Pulitzer materiial here. I am sure the recruits had the same reaction as most people – do what? Based on this ruling – UNC may be in some serious trouble – or are they?

Michael Carvell

July 14th, 2011
11:32 pm

@Dollar Bill, yes, good point. Based on how NCAA treated Georgia Tech, you’d have to be really, really, really concerned if you’re at North Carolina, Ohio State etc

gtfanfrom1951

July 14th, 2011
11:46 pm

Michael the NCAA is way out of line with this and it will in the long run bring them big trouble. Maybe it time for a new ruling body.

Old Blind Dawg

July 14th, 2011
11:54 pm

Vad Lee is an OK QB. Most schools recruited him as an athlete. Lee also worked out of a spread and shotgun based offense in H.S. not the TO. His talent will be minimized by the TO and a total lack of WR’s.

Tokyo jacket

July 15th, 2011
12:44 am

Andrews is full of it. He’s waffling a little bit and using current events to blame his own indecision. Read the last line. He’s changing his mind about where he fits in our system. I hope he decides Tech is the place. But, if he doesn’t, it doesn’t have anything to do with “probation.” Plus, our probation is going to be WAY different than Bama’s. We’re not losing scholarships, we’re not losing playoff eligibility. It’s just them making sure that in the next four years, none of our players receive $312 worth of clothing from a longtime friend of theirs that’s also a friend of an agent.

Tech '65

July 15th, 2011
12:48 am

@TOKYO JACKET, You are exactly right. Dennis Andrews was wavering on Georgia Tech and looking for a way out. Now he has one. I hope he stays. But if he’s leaving, and I’m fine with it because kids change their mind, he should do it now so we can get on another QB before it’s too late.

The situation that concerns me the most is not Dennis Andrews. It’s Tyler Stargel. I love that he wants to compete, but I don’t think coach Johnson is going to be happy when he finds out that Tyler is camping at two SEC schools.

Does Tyler know about coach Johnson’s policy? Or is only for official visits and not camps? Anyone know?

ManUp...

July 15th, 2011
1:00 am

You wish, OBD. Keep hoping for that…

German Jacket

July 15th, 2011
1:18 am

jojo, Are you stupid? Oh, sorry. Yes you are; I answered my own question. This has nothing to do with Paul Johnson, and for what it’s worth, he’s going to crush your ignorant a$$.

Wise One

July 15th, 2011
1:36 am

My fellow Georgia Tech friends, please calm down. Dennis Andrews is a QB of the future. Did we sign him as a QB of the past? Coach Johnson thinks he can compete for the job or he wouldn’t have signed Andrews. Calm down. You all making stupid comments about Dennis is going to anger his family. Dennis take your time talking with your father. We want you at Georgia Tech. Ignore the stupid comments.

Tokyo jacket

July 15th, 2011
2:09 am

@Old Blind Dog – way to try to minimize Vad Lee. Oh, and for what it’s worth, coming out of high school Josh (then) Nesbitt, had never taken a snap under center. He was a run around until you find someone throw a deep bomb kind of kid as well. That worked out well for Tech. I’m sure Lee will too.

Lasso

July 15th, 2011
2:12 am

Johnson crying that this ruling “isn’t fair” to his team (see Shultz’ article if you don’t believe me). When is this guy going to man up and teach his team that there are consequences for your actions? As in, if I eat this entire box of doughnuts, I’m going to grow another chin. What a whiny blowhard who’s setting a horrible example for his club.

Stinger2

July 15th, 2011
4:13 am

Any recruit who wants change his mind can do so before he signs.
If this is what Andrews wants, let him go. Better for both parties in the long run. In CPJ`s TO offense, a QB is not so important anyway.

Thomas Brown

July 15th, 2011
5:03 am

REPEAT VIOLATOR

LENGTHY PERIOD OF PROBATION

SUBSTANTIAL FINES

VACATE FOOTBALL RECORDS

AGAIN SUBJECT TO REPEAT VIOLATOR YET AGAIN NOW

FOUR (4) YEARS OF PROBATION from 7/14/11 – 7/13/2015

RECRUITING DAYS REDUCED BY 2

NO COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS TO 1ST BASKETBALL HOME GAME

LIMIT OF ONLY 10 PERMISSIBLE OFFICIAL VISITS BOTH 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 BASKETBALL

Here is the real kicker :

Vacate all games WON after November 24, 2009 and ending after the bowl game.

FUNNY Georgia tek

You LOST all those games except against Climpsum Farmers and so now there is 1990 only, because that win 2009 over Climpsum Farmers is VACATED just after South Carolina beat Climpsum and just after Georgia beat Georgia tek with said Thomas the focus of all the incomplete passes to end the game with a LOSS to UGA.

Thomas Brown

July 15th, 2011
5:04 am

Vacate 1 win.

Yes, small penalty – because you LOST all the other games, nerds.

PAUL JOHNSON cannot count the win over Climpsum Farmers in his total.

No team who subsequently HIRES Paul Johnson can list the win over Climpsum or the ACC Championship, now VACATED.

Cupcake Conference anyway.

That is like saying you are the best sportswriter at the AJ-C.

INFORM ALL PROSPECTS THAT GEORGIA TEK IS ON NCAA PROBATION.

PUBLICIZE THE NCAA PROBATION IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL MEDIA GUIDES ANNUALLY.

REPEAT VIOLATOR – FOR 5 YEARS FROM 14 JULY 2011 THROUGH 13 JULY 2016.

AJ-C ?

Where in the blazes was there ever any mention of this ever in the newspaper I have thrown down in the street in front of my home ?

Answer. There never was.

Bizare that this is the 1st mention of all this NCAA INVESTIGATION of Georgia tek. AJ-C you would have had a daily story on it were it UGA gentlemen. And, you specifically withheld from your readers that which you did know, and you knew it all gentlemen.

slydog

July 15th, 2011
5:04 am

The Nebraska guy is just bored because no one is talking about them at all. peroid. The only reason he and his new boyfriend Buckeye get on here is to take snipes at the SEC and their fans. What they don’t seem to realize is that even if cheating never existed in college football,the South produces better football players. period.So go ahead, win the BIG TEN, any SEC team will just crush you at the end of the year. @ Buckeye, you may not have a functioning football program by this time next. And all those recruits WILL not be going to shuck corn. They are coming south with a few sprinkles going to Michigan. As stated before: the only difference between Taylor Martinez and Cam Newton is Martinez’s father signed a business contract with Nebraska before his signed the papers. Somehow that was legal in the NCAA’S eyes. That’s a good tip for you dad’s out there who wants a brown paper bag.

Proud to be a Tech grad

July 15th, 2011
5:40 am

What is Tyler Stargel thinking?

Thomas Brown

July 15th, 2011
6:44 am

Tyler Stargel 2-star ILB committed to Georgia Tech in early June with other scholarship offers from Memphis, Troy, South Alabama, Louisiana-Lafayette and Arkansas State. Who did you want him to pick from that assortment of nobodies ?

[...] didn’t take long for this particular shoe to drop. … Georgia Tech’s “quarterback of the future”  – Dennis Andrews Jr. of Tallahassee, [...]

Paddy

July 15th, 2011
7:02 am

Since these Tech penilities do not effect incoming players or their chances of having a good team for 4 years; why not stick with your choice of schools? These new players are in no way restricted from being “all they can be”. If you liked Tech before this announcement, nothing has changed except for administrators with egg on their faces!

JB

July 15th, 2011
7:17 am

Will not effect bowl, TV,Scholarships etc. No big deal from this Dawgs point of view. slap on the hand in my book.

Thomas Brown

July 15th, 2011
7:36 am

15 penalties Georgia institute of technology just got. And, that is no big deal ? Just a slap on the hand ?

Get real.

George P

July 15th, 2011
7:43 am

What do you people get out of being such jerks? Does it make you feel special? Are you this way to people you see face-to-face, or is this compensation for the way you get treated at home?

The newspaper called the kids and asked if the probation would affect their commitment. They’ve just heard about it. Andrews said he didn’t know and would have to talk to his father.

Based on this little bit of data you are all suddenly able to judge his character. Thank you, Drs. Phil.

Jacket Man

July 15th, 2011
7:51 am

The Tech issue with the NCAA has not been finalized; there may still be an appeal filed, especially regarding the football related issues. Regarding Dennis, or any other committed prospects for that matter, anyone coming down on them for being unsure of what to do right now should back off.

These kids are under a tremendous amount of pressure trying to find a school they can find playing time, but want coaching and program stability, because ultimately, they’re making a life time commitment (remember, there’s life after football).

One of the most fortunate things about the GA Tech program is the fact that you can sell the degree no matter who the Head Coach is, so that “life after football” argument is moot. The issue then becomes whether the players feel comfortable with Paul Johnson, and his staff, and the fact that they’ll be around, if that’s even one of the factors (sometimes it isn’t).

I would suggest that Coach Johnson has a history of running clean programs for decades, and this one “episode” was an aberration based on ignorance, misinformation, lack of information, and disagreement of facts. His record as a Coach and as a man speak for themselves.

DDDAWG

July 15th, 2011
8:22 am

hahahahahahahaha stupid bugs. Go Dawgs….

indianman

July 15th, 2011
8:45 am

all i can say about this is all you georgia tech people that taught bad about the georgia bulldogs is allways come back to bite you so your ask for this hahahaha

wreckbone

July 15th, 2011
8:54 am

I don’t care. Vad Lee is the future

wreckbone

July 15th, 2011
8:58 am

Oh man , didn’t realize there was no post season ineligability. If you run this offense and can run through the line on 3rd and short for 3 yrds and throw accurately, especially on the run, then this is a good place to be!! Thatis the issue with Tevin. He can’t get 3 yrds when the defensive line is stacked. No accuracy either.