Ten@10: Major recruiting scandals threaten college football

THE TEN AT 10:

1. Put the words “major” and “recruiting” and “violations” together in any sentence and it can send chills down the spines of athletic directors and fans everywhere. Throw them out in the context sports radio personality Colin Cowherd did this week and you could produce full-blown panic.

Cowherd, on his nationally-syndicated ESPN radio program, cryptically revealed on Tuesday that he has information that a “top 10-12″ college football program is about to be “outed” by “major publication” for a “major recruiting violations.” He would not identify the program, said the information was revealed to him in a text message from an apparently credible source and said the staff at ESPN and ESPN.com is attempting to verify the infomation. Before you jump to any conclusions, Cowherd said that it was NOT Auburn.

In case you missed it, here’s what Cowherd said on his program, according to a transcript provided by NBC Sports’ collegefootball.com:

“I received an interesting text about 10 days ago, and this should be very frightening if you’re a fan of college football, that a major program in this country is going to be outed very soon for major recruiting violations.  It is a top 10-12 program. I know what I think it is according to both my sources; I received another tip last night.  I went to Vince Doria, who is sort of the journalistic editor at this company.  He had heard the exact same thing.  We are pursuing this story with vigor.  A major publication is about to unseat a major college football power on recruiting violations.  I will tell you from my source, it is not — it is not — Auburn.  I will leave it at that.  It is a major program and a major publication.  When we can validate more… I have not been able to validate it nor has this company.  We’re both pursuing it.”

Subsequent to that, rampant speculation led many to conclude that the program to which Cowherd was referring is Oregon. John Canzano of The Oregonian reported that if Oregon is indeed the focus of the report, the Ducks haven’t been made aware of it by the NCAA or the Pac-12, which usually would be the procedure.

Another speculated target would be Tennessee, which presently finds itself neck deep in NCAA investigations. But the recently released “notice of allegations” the school received from the NCAA indicates that the basketball program is going to bear the brunt of that inquiry. The indiscretions revealed therein about resident NCAA rogue and former football coach Lane Kiffin don’t indicate any violations of the major variety.

So what program is the focus of the NCAA’s alleged ire? I guess we’ll find out eventually. Your guess might depend on which you to believe to be the top 10-12 programs. That’s a debate that could rage on into the ages.

2. Closer to home, Auburn’s relationship with Atlanta’s Newtons, Cameron and Cecil, just won’t go away. For one, Scott Moore won’t let it. Moore is a Huntsville, Ala., sports radio host has been making the rounds with media this week telling anybody who listen that he has audio tapes that Cam Newton knew his father Cecil Newton was shopping him around to Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee and other football programs for money.

AJC columnist Mark Bradley weighed in on this in blogs on both Tuesday and Wednesday. Understandably, Bradley remains skeptical about Moore, who has declined to release the tapes until he plays them on his radio show in two weeks.

Meanwhile, Moore went on the “Chuck and Chernoff Show” on Tuesday to talk about these tapes. Co-hosts Matt Chernoff and Chuck Oliver also came away from the interview feeling more than a little leery. You can CLICK ON THIS LINK and listen to that interview yourself.

3. But it gets better. Today, an apparent snippet from those alleged tapes has been leaked to YouTube.com. Check it out yourself below:

Personally, I’m tired of all the speculation. I think there’s enough chatter going on that the SEC and NCAA are going to diligently investigate and we’ll probably get some kind of ruling on it in, oh, the next year or so.

4. n the meantime, CBSSports.com senior writer Pete Prisco believes the issue is enough to impact Newton’s NFL draft status. And former AJC colleague Len Pasquerelli, one of the most respeocted NFL writers in the business, wrote that Newton came off “insincere” during his news conference with reporters at the NFL combine.

5. I’ve written a lot about Lorenzo Mauldin, the defensive end from Maynard Jackson High who said he felt “shoved away” when South Carolina would not allow him to sign on national signing day despite being committed since last summer. But he was one of two players who was left at the altar by the Gamecocks on national signing day. The other one was Jordan Montgomery, a linebacker/defensive back from Groveland, Fla.

Josh Kendall, who covers South Carolina football for The State newspaper in Columbia, S.C., reported in a story that was published on Wednesday that Montgomery’s coach at South Lake High, has declared that the Gamecocks’ coaches are “no longer welcome” at the school.

“I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says,” South Lake coach Walter Banks told Kendall.

I’d provide a link to the story but all of The State’s online content is behind a pay wall. But if you’d like to read more about it I certainly think it’s worth it. Just go to GoGamecocks.com.

In the meantime, I’ll summarize some of the high points:

  • Coach Steve Spurrier makes his most direct statements to date on these two players specifically and admits that he and his staff probably didn’t handle the situation as well as they should have. “Walter had a tough time of it and, maybe if I was a high school coach, I would have a tough time with it, too,” he said of the South Lake coach.
  • Kendall’s story corroborates my reports that the players were not informed they would not be allowed to sign with the Gamecocks until Feb. 1, the day before national signing day. That’s what I was told by Mauldin and Maynard Jackson coach Eric Williams. “Our mistake was maybe not alerting these two young men,” Spurrier told The State. “I think on [Feb. 1] we alerted both of them, talked to them and said ‘Hey, I’m sorry. This is where we are. We got all these other commitments.’ We didn’t like doing this.”
  • Spurrier also reveals that he sent both players a letter of apology and that “we are still looking at them as if they had signed.” In fact, he said the Gamecocks still intend to bring them in. He says that if four of South Carolina’s current signees fail to qualify, Montgomery will be allowed to enroll. Mauldin, the story indicates, would be next in line.

6. Stephenson’s Carlos Hood made it clear that he loved everything about Auburn but he wanted to wait to see who the Tigers hired as his position coach before making a final decision. Well, head coach Gene Chizik hired Chris Pelton on Wednesday replace Tracy Rocker as defensive line coach. Hood, a 6-4, 275-pound defensive lineman, couldn’t immediately be reached for comment. But a recent interview I had with him reveals that Auburn has a sizeable lead to obtain his services.

“I really like it,” Hood said after a visit to The Plains last weekend. “That’s where I might go to. I’ve been thinking about Auburn for a long time and then they offered me [last week]. I’ve already been over there a couple of time and I was just there last weekend and now they want me to come back with my mom. I may just go ahead and commit to them. I just want to see who the defensive line coach is going to be first.”

Hood, who also has offers from Memphis, Miami, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, South Carolina and South Florida, is supposed to go back to Auburn this weekend. At that time he’s expected to meet Pelton. Don’t be surprised if he comes back a Tigers’ commitment.

7. Patrick DeStefano, an offensive lineman from Spartanburg, S.C., picked up an offer from Georgia on Tuesday, according to Scout.com’s Chad Simmons. It was the first of five offers for DeStefano (6-5, 270) that day and gives him 19 overall, Simmons reports.

Based on Scout.com’s prospect database, that gives the Bulldogs more than 50 offers extended so far for their Class of 2012. They’ve also offered at least three more Atlanta prospects this week: Banneker DB Chaz Elder, Banneker DE/TE Larry Jefferson and Columbia DE Jhaustin Thomas.

8. I was surprised at some of the reactions to Rusty Mansell’s comments about Brice Ramsey earlier this week. Mansell, a recruiting analyst for 247Sports.com, was telling me how impressed he was with the Camden County quarterback’s throwing exhibition at the Orlando MVP Camp last weekend and he joked that coach Jeff Herron may have to tweak his Wing-T offense to take advantage of Ramsey’s skills.

That brought some criticism to Mansell from some people saying how dare he question the strategies of an ultra successful coach such as Herron. That, of course, was not what Mansell meant.

“By no means am I saying that Camden County and Jeff Herron needs to change what they’ve done and been so successful at,” Mansell, who has since spoke to Herron, told me. “I’m just saying I could see them tweaking their offense a bit for a quarterback like Brice Ramsey, who can throw the ball he does. But Jeff Herron is one of the most successful coaches in the country and I stand by that. Nobody has the right to question his record or what he does and I wasn’t doing that.”

The truth is, there are lots of ways to throw the ball effectively out of the Wing-T.

9. There was an interesting headline from MaxPreps.com that came into my email via Google alert on Thursday. It read: “Marshall Morgan makes commitment to Florida State football.” Morgan, of course, is a highly-rated place-kicker from Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., who committed to Georgia on Jan. 31. Turns out he’s still committed to the Bulldogs and the story was simply about him having done so. Apparently a headline writer was just having a very bad day. . . .

10. THIS & THAT: Josh Manley, a defensive lineman from Alpharetta’s Milton High School, has added offers from Georgia Tech and N.C. State, according to JacketsOnline.com. Manley told the website he’d be visiting Tech soon. . . . Columbia’s Jhaustin Thomas added an offer from Oklahoma State on Thursday. . . .

I was surprised to learn this week that there is still a major college football prospect for the Class of 2011 that remains unsigned. Michael Thomas, a four-star wide receiver from Woodland Hills, Calif., postponed his national signing day ceremony last month after his grandmother died. But he still hasn’t signed anywhere and apparently is still being recruited. He has an official visit planned to Colorado this weekend, according to BuffStampede.com. By all accounts, he would appear to be a good catch for any team. The 6-foot-3, 180-pound athlete had 1,756 yards and 22 touchdowns on 86 catches at Taft High as a senior last season.

284 comments Add your comment

Saban

March 3rd, 2011
4:04 pm

Bulldogmaniac,

Perhaps you need to reread those WSJ articles. In the article about several players being forced to take medical redshirts that was the quote in the headline. When you actually read the article only one player complained. The other 2 did not complain and were satisfied.

As for the 3 players who denied they had been dismissed for disciplinary reasons let me help you out there.

Prince Hall had already been suspended twice by Shula and a 3rd time by Saban before being finally dismissed. For him to say he didn’t know it was for discipline is ludicrous.

Alonzo Lawrence- dismissed also then transferre to Southern Miss. What happened there. Oh. He was also dismissed there before the season began and is now out of football. No credibility there.

The 3rd player Jermaine? It was well known well before his transfer that he had been suspended due to discipline problems. How he didn’t know this when it was in the papers is kinda strange don’t ya think. And then after he transfers he said it wasn’t for discipline? yeah Right.

grantparkgator

March 3rd, 2011
4:05 pm

FYI nothing Saban in doing is against NCAA rules…. athletic scholarships are only for a year so HC have the right under NCAA rules not to renew the scholly. When kids sign their LOI to college it gives them a free ride for one year not four-five years.

Saban

March 3rd, 2011
4:15 pm

Bulldogmaniac

“[edit] 2011In early 2011, after National Signing Day, Saban and the University of Alabama again became the subjects of heavy media criticism after they again appeared to have oversigned”-

Let me help you out here. In 2011 Saban signed 23 players- 2 under the maximum. Richt signed 26 which is over the allowable maximum. Just the facts sir.

And when the season comes around Saban has 85 players on scholly- same as everyone else and within the rules. What you don’t realize is that several of the players- 4 I can think of, are white players that come from very wealthy, affluent families who are UA alumni. It has been rumored that these 4 players are paying their own way since their families are very wealthy and loyal to UA. But that’s none of your business and you need not worry about it.

Last year we played under the scolly numbers of 85 and that is a fact. You don’t need to worry about it. It is none of your da#n business. The only thing you need to be concerned about is that Bama plays with 85 or less scholly players same as everyone else.

Saban

March 3rd, 2011
4:17 pm

grantparkgator,

You are correct. But even then Saban has never run off one single player for lack of ability to play. Its just people like bulldogmaniac want to focus on other programs rather than worry about their own dang business- what an idiot.

JM

March 3rd, 2011
4:18 pm

I say its Notre Dame.

Saban

March 3rd, 2011
4:22 pm

Bulldogmaniac,

Perhaps you would be better served spending your time worrying about Troy since they lead the nation in oversigning at 32 players a year on average. According to the real stats Alabama is 6th in the SEC- middle of the road- in oversigning. But why let the facts get in the way of your argument. By the way can’t wait to see your ranting about Troy oversigning.

In past five years, 25 of 120 FBS programs averaged more than 25 signees
That list includes eight of 12 SEC schools and five of current Big 12 teams
Troy has signed 164 players over that span, a staggering average of 32.8

Team-by-team look at class size over five-year span
School Conference 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 Total Average
Troy Sun Belt 34 40 33 32 25 164 32.8
Ole Miss SEC 25 37 31 22 30 145 29
Auburn SEC 32 28 29 30 25 144 28.8
Mississippi State SEC 26 27 27 34 24 138 27.6
Kansas State Big 12 17 25 32 33 30 137 27.4
Temple MAC 25 28 26 30 27 136 27.2
Southern Miss C-USA 26 22 27 32 28 135 27
Arkansas SEC 25 31 25 27 26 134 26.8
Kentucky SEC 26 29 20 29 30 134 26.8
Alabama SEC 26 27 32 25 23 133 26.6
Iowa State Big 12 28 25 25 25 30 133 26.6
LSU SEC 29 24 26 26 26 131 26.2
Baylor Big 12 23 28 23 29 28 131 26.2
Tulsa C-USA 25 25 26 31 23 130 26
Oklahoma State Big 12 27 24 27 23 29 130 26
Florida State ACC 25 21 33 20 31 130 26
South Carolina SEC 23 29 22 31 24 129 25.8

RRTDawgs

March 3rd, 2011
4:33 pm

Some good news in basketball recruiting for UGA rumor is if Paul Hewitt is fired Milton star Julian Royal may be heading to Athens .

Ldawg

March 3rd, 2011
4:33 pm

I bet it’s fsu.. Alabama… Or USC…or maybe scam and his dad are finally getting popped because everyone knows he took that money… It’s coming out folks.. Another year or so and Auburn won’t have any wins in 2010!

Flatwoods Dawg

March 3rd, 2011
4:38 pm

Saban

You know you and your dastardly crew are guilty of oversigning and other recruiting violations. Then after you are caught doing wrong you sling filthy, fabricated allegations about other programs. TSK!! TSK!!! I am glad to support a fine, morally upstanding program at Georgia.

P. Bull Terrier

March 3rd, 2011
4:44 pm

Given the way the NCAA has handled recent rule violators, like the loophole to keep Cam eligible and letting Ohio St. players play in the bowl game, the offending school has nothing to worry about.

The NCAA will make the guilty school serve water instead of Gatorade during spring practice and all will be forgiven.

Chae

March 3rd, 2011
4:47 pm

RRTDawgs

March 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm

UGA offers Jenkins Co James Deloach offers keep coming in this will help get John Taylor as part of the package deal .

Globeflyer

March 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm

Some of the “Anti-Bama” rhetoric on this one reeks of jealousy, especially of Saban. The schools Cowerd mentioned, as well as some implied by others, does not imply Bama, Auburn, or any other school who has recently won a NC. I think any other “big name” school is still in play.

trupert

March 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm

When a Alabama fan states that UGA and Mark Richt has oversigned and Saban and Alabama did not oversign their classes for 2011, you know it’s getting real deep.

Funny how oversigning.com completly missed that.

Mean Machine

March 3rd, 2011
4:58 pm

Uh oh, more bad news for Alabama. Bama fans have had a really bad year, and the news just keeps getting worse. I wonder what kind of probation they are going to get this time, considering the NCAA will never give the death penalty again.

grantparkgator

March 3rd, 2011
5:08 pm

Two weeks ago UGA fans stated that Justin Taylor, Mann and Deloach wouldn’t get UGA offers but as of today all three have offers…..looks like CMR is handing out offers trying to keep the “raid” from happening….Kirby…..Vol…Gator-raid in Ga! Love it!

OnTheMoney

March 3rd, 2011
5:08 pm

You can go to the bank that one of these 3 are the culprit.
USC—Oregon—Ohio St
The NCAA wants to nail Kiffin so USC had best hope it’s not them.
Ohio St leads the NCAA on minor infractions reported and likes to stay “just under” the radar.
Nike $$$ could lead to the rapid rise and the the even faster collapse of the Ducks.
THIS investigation–for once–will not have an SEC team in the crosshairs.

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dean

March 3rd, 2011
5:24 pm

My apologies, i made a huge mistake ommitting Penn State. I just did it on the fly

trupert

March 3rd, 2011
5:25 pm

It’s way passed time that the NCAA starts cracking down on the schools who cheat to gain a advantage that they can’t achieve on the playing field.

Whoever it is, I hope they stick it to them and set the standard for the up coming Auburn pay for play case.

bigtime

March 3rd, 2011
5:25 pm

bulldogmaniac

March 3rd, 2011
3:48 pm
Saban is so great!!!!!!

YES, YES HE IS.

dean

March 3rd, 2011
5:26 pm

heck i left out Miami as well. I don’t know what I’m talking about!!!

dean

March 3rd, 2011
5:27 pm

I’m guessing Ole Miss. They said top 12 just to get you to listen

bigtime

March 3rd, 2011
5:28 pm

DeAnthony Thomas was interviewed by the NCAA regarding his recruitment to Oregon. Oregon is the team Cowherd was talking about.
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/oregon-recruit-caught-in-lie-in-denial-29539

UGA72

March 3rd, 2011
5:28 pm

My money is on Clemson. How in the world could they otherwise have signed the class they did this year and picked up the players they have in recent years?

bigtime

March 3rd, 2011
5:29 pm

trupert

March 3rd, 2011
5:34 pm

So let me get this straight. Oregon is under investigation for recruiting violations and Auburn is under investigation for again, paying players.

What else do these two teams have in common? Both played in the MNCG.

What does this say about the state of CFB!

still@the bar

March 3rd, 2011
5:36 pm

UGA72 the same way UGA got it’s class this year. Man I hope it is the Dawgs. It would be so much fun on these blogs.

still@the bar

March 3rd, 2011
5:38 pm

Don’t you have to be 18 to get a tatoo? How do all these poor football players get the money for all the tatoos they sport?

trupert

March 3rd, 2011
5:41 pm

If it’s true that Oregon is quilty of recruiting violations and Auburn is guilty of paying players then the NCAA has a golden opportunity to send a message that cheating might pay in the short run but it’s not worth it in the long run.

The balls in your court, NCAA.

K Conley

March 3rd, 2011
5:52 pm

In a move by Todd Grantham, Alec Ogletree has finally been moved to inside linebacker. Apparently, he is just becoming such a big man that this move is inevitable as it prepares him for the position he will play in the NFL. The elite defensive back talent that UGA recruited certainly probably contributes to this move, and it also allows Jarvis Jones to move outside. I can’t tell you how happy I am about this. Ogletree will be a SuperStar at this position! Bean Anderson has also been moved back to OL. Make no mistake, Todd Grantham understands defense and putting Ogletree and Big J. Jenkins in the middle of our D is going to pay huge dividends. Geathers is certainly going to be counted on for depth, and let’s hope he’s up for it. Love the moves. Go Dawgs!!!

K Conley

March 3rd, 2011
5:55 pm

@ bigtime, Notice no USCe fans on here today after the “admission” by Spurrier that things weren’t handled properly. Just pure incompetence.

@ RRTDawgs, I’m still here my friend, just been a little busy this week. I’ve gotta track Lowndes down and get some more info. on the recent moves by Grantham. Later.

RRTDawgs

March 3rd, 2011
5:56 pm

K. Conley finally good here from you bro can you believe all the offers going out i am sure you have heard about the dawgs offering Jordan Watkins and James Deloach .

K Conley

March 3rd, 2011
5:56 pm

Oh, and by the way, it is without a doubt Oregon that is in the NCAA crosshairs.

Brown Dog

March 3rd, 2011
5:57 pm

Based on Scout.com’s prospect database, that gives the Bulldogs more than 50 offers extended so far for their Class of 2012. They’ve also offered at least three more Atlanta prospects this week: Banneker DB Chaz Elder, Banneker DE/TE Larry Jefferson and Columbia DE Jhaustin Thomas.

50 offers in early March? But Mark Richt says it’s the other guys who throw around scholarships like Mardi Gras beads. Shame on those other guys for forcing Mark Richt to go against his better instincts.

K Conley

March 3rd, 2011
5:59 pm

A little surprised, but extremely happy about the offer to Deloach. I thought we wanted to wait and view how he responds to his injuries, but Richt certainly feels the pressure from all the other schools offering in an attempt to gain the upper hand with Taylor. Dawgs will fight hard and ultimately sign both. Go Dawgs!!!

Barney Fife (the dawg fan)

March 3rd, 2011
6:00 pm

Instead of “citizens arrest, citizens arrest” its “oversigning, oversigning”…its really funny how you guys just can’t get off a non-topic. Its like you want to make a big deal out of something because you have a crappy football team and are looking for any excuse to justify it. Its funny but it gets old fast.

RRTDawgs

March 3rd, 2011
6:04 pm

Thought so Conley some people on here were saying its Tech and Voles battle but i know Richt was one of the first ones to offer big John Taylor .

gcs

March 3rd, 2011
6:07 pm

1. What in the bleep does “top 10-12″ college football program mean? Can he get more nebulous? Cowherd is just as bad as Scott Moore.

2. Speaking of Moore, he is milking his 15 minutes of fame. I have no interest in tuning into his big “reveal” show.

3. Who knows if this is real or not? It is hard to hear. I encourage everyone to listen WITHOUT reading along with the words and decide for yourself what is said. The only clear words I hear are “two thousand from Auburn”.

4. Wow! Cam Newton is a jerk? Shocker.

5. Good for Jackson High for barring South Carolina coaches from campus, but Steve Spurrier DOES NOT CARE. He is going for one last hurrah (SC will lose a lot of key players to graduation and the NFL after the 2011 season) and then he retires. He does not care what he leaves in his wake.

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grantparkgator

March 3rd, 2011
6:21 pm

just like when Coach Mcgee banned UGA from Carver…but nobody brings that up about Coach Saint! lol Uga fans kill me about their mid-grade program….all the resources in the world but has’t won anything since before the inter-web…..but call out bama, UF, FSU for cheating.

SEC Fact Finder

March 3rd, 2011
6:22 pm

After reading Chip’s article and enjoying his take on many subjects, I turned my attention to some of the comments. Folks they are just too much to take.

I will tell anyone who wants to listen, and believe me when I say this: IT IS NOT A SEC School that Colin Cowherd was speaking about. The following schools have current internal or external investigations involving their programs: Tennessee, LSU. Those are the official ones. We all have heard the rumors about Auburn but until someone walks into the offices of the SEC or Auburn that is all they are, rumors. Yeah we all have opinions but in the end that is all they are. The issue at LSU was a rogue coach who was immediately fired and was self reported by LSU. Do not see much happening on that front. Tennessee may get some penalties but for the most part those allegations on the football program will fall directly onto the lap of Lane Kiffin and his regime.

Let me say this again, the sporadic information Colin Cowherd was speaking of does not involve a SEC school. The information he discussed has been a long time rumor and yet after 2 years nothing has come of it.

Good Luck to all your teams and looking forward to Spring Practice to beginning this month.

SEC Fact Finder

March 3rd, 2011
6:33 pm

I want to add one more comment. I know Mark Bradley gets paid to write his opinion, and he does a good job of it, but the one problem I have is I know John Bond, and I know his character of person, his honesty level and that he states that Cecil and Cam Newton were not being honest in their affairs and their discussions with the NCAA then I believe him. John Bond is a true gentlemen and after suffering the loss of a child recently John has no reason to dishonest. Scott Moore is an entertainer and a talk show host, who happens to do imitations of some football coaches, but Scott has a great deal to lose if he is lying, therefore basing my personal relationship with John, my brief time with Scott and the issues surrounding The Newtons, I will fall on the side of John Bond and Scott Moore until there is proof otherwise.

OliverFan

March 3rd, 2011
6:37 pm

It’s Oregon. And it’s already been stated that the football
program at UT is only facing secondary issues. Auburn on the
other hand is a different story!

Brainiac(Dawg For Life)

March 3rd, 2011
7:02 pm

This illustrates, more than ever, why Mark Richt is a great coach and a first class human being.. You realize from reading the headline that “IT ain’t us. Another reason that all you haters and even some of our own Dawg Nation are bleeping idiots. CMR has won approx. an average of 10 games a year and is not ever going to do/allow things like this to happen under his watch. We don’t need CMR-haters in Dawg Nation.

gcs

March 3rd, 2011
7:11 pm

Only Cowherd know what “top 10-12″ means.
Does he mean 2010? 2011? Does he mean the last 10-15 years they are usually around #10-12? The last 30 years?
Is it the AP poll, the Coaches poll or BCS? Because they are all different.

I know some of you want it to be Alabama since they were #10 in the AP, #11 in the Coaches but they were #16 in the BCS. Furthermore, they were #1 in ‘09 and many have them in the top 3 for 2011. I don’t think Cowherd would have phrased it that way if it was Bama.

The same probably applies to LSU, Florida & Texas.

Ohio State has finished in the Top 5 five of the last six years.

So Cal is already on probation & the Tennessee thing is old news.

When I hear “top 10-12″, that sound to me like a team that is usually decent and goes to some lesser bowl but not good enough to be Top 10 and certainly NOT a recent National Champion.
That sounds like Arkansas, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma State, Iowa…

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gt4ever

March 3rd, 2011
7:52 pm

GTBob,

That’s exactly what college football has become, minor league for the PROS…. With the exception of a few, like our program…. I mean, if we are cheating, we really are pathetic….

bigtime

March 3rd, 2011
7:53 pm

Truthteller

March 3rd, 2011
7:57 pm

Has to be The Ohio State Univ. With players trading tickets and autographs for tattoos and use of vehicles, Pryor’s multiple tickets while driving an auto dealer’s vehicles it simply adds up. tOSU and Coach Sweatervest dodged the NCAA a few years back over Maurice Clarett. Integrity went out the window and tOSU surrendered their morals when those suspended players played in the Sugar Bowl. Sacrifing honor, ethics, and institutional integrity in order to enhance the chance to win is an embarrassment of epic proportions. Go get ‘em NCAA nail their cheating butts!!!

Ramblin Man

March 3rd, 2011
8:03 pm

If you look it is already being reported that Oregon paid two different people for “scouting reports” and one of these indaviduals use to play for Kelly. It just so happens that one of these subjects runs a 7 on 7 tournament and the other does drills and conditioning for football players and each has had contact with many of Oregons top recruits over the past few years. Just saying.

RRTDawgs,
I was one of the people saying that GT and Tenn. were in the lead as I have heard that form several people close to the source. Now I will say UGA has a shot as most instate kids always like the oppurtunity to play for UGA. I have heard that Deloach and Watkins (unknown on Taylor) have both mentioned the depth chart being a possible deciding factor. Watkins has always been a GT fan, but who knows how that will play out. It could be in GTs favor on these three as the coaching staff is pressing hard for d-lineman in the next class and GT only has what look to be 4 good d-lineman and UGA just signed some really good prospects along with several good ones in 2010. This is all assuming these kids want to stay instate though. Either way both of our teams really need to step up this year if we really want to get any of them.

Bitter vince dooly

March 3rd, 2011
8:11 pm

pay for play—–all you Fools that still think scam and f-grand–dad, (boone docks) are still not on the take “R” living in a will —-you no—-oswall fire the majic bullet that made 7 wounds in 2 people.

PS wake up fools———-join us in —-well——-reality——auburn sux—-bad for the sec!!!!