Is Georgia losing momentum in basketball recruiting?

Georgia gets another shot at landing a Milton player when Dai-Jon Parker announce on Nov. 5. (AJC photo)

Georgia gets another shot at landing a Milton player when Dai-Jon Parker announce on Nov. 5. (AJC photo)

So South Atlanta basketball star Nick Jacobs committed to Alabama on Tuesday. That makes Georgia 0-for-2 so far on high-profile Atlanta kids in the Class of 2011.

The Bulldogs also missed out on another four-star power forward they went down to the wire for. Milton High School star Julian Royal (6-foot-9) chose Georgia Tech over UGA on Oct. 14. Two other major prospects snubbed UGA to go out of state: Milton point guard Shannon Scott (to Ohio State) and Great Atlanta Christian wing Malcolm Brogdown (Virginia).

Does this mean the Bulldogs have lost the recruiting momentum they gained last year under coach Mark Fox?

Hard to tell.

Georgia has already done some really good work already. Earlier this year, the Bulldogs landed five-star wing Kentavious Caldwell (6-6, 185) of Greenville, Ga., who is generally considered the top prospect in the state. But after coming up short on Royal, UGA settled for unheralded 7-foot center John Florveus of Tampa’s Hillsborough Community College. Also scheduled to sign with UGA in 2011 is 6-9 forward Tim Dixon of Oldsmar, Fla., who gets two stars from Scout and three from Rivals.

The Bulldogs are also supposed to get some help from the football team. AJC Super 11 prospect Nick Marshall of Wilcox County, who is already committed to UGA in football, is also a 6-foot-2 guard and four-star prospect in basketball.

Last year, the Bulldogs pulled off a late coup by landing “Mr. Georgia Basketball” in Westlake forward Marcus Thornton. But Thornton, a one-time Clemson signee, was only a three-star rated recruited. Georgia also got 6-9 forward Donte Williams of Miller Grove and Sherrard Brantley of Northwest Florida College. But the state’s highest-rated talent went elsewhere.

Five-star point guard Ryan Harrow of Marietta signed with N.C. State and five-star small forward Jelan Kendrick of Wheeler signed with Memphis. And point guard Lorenzo Brown (N.C. State) and Jordan McRae (Tennessee) — both rated among the top 10 nationally at their respective positions — also left the state.

Of course, Georgia Tech missed out on all those guys as well. The Yellow Jackets only signee in 2010, Jason Morris, came from Connecticut (albeit by way of Augusta).

Tech also failed to make the final cut for Jacobs (6-8, 255), who told the AJC’s Michael Carvell that Clemson was actually his No. 2 choice, ahead of Georgia and Florida. Jacobs said, in the end, he actually preferred getting away from home.

“I liked all the schools, but picked Alabama because it was the best fit for me,” said Jacobs, who averaged 22 points and 12 rebounds as a junior at South Atlanta. “I had built a close relationship with Alabama’s coaches and players. I like Alabama because it’s a winning program and I know we have the talent to win an SEC championship.”

Georgia gets another shot to land a major prospect on Nov. 5 when Milton shooting guard Dai-Jon Parker announces his decision. The Bulldogs are one of five finalists along with Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Rhode Island and Vanderbilt. Tech is on the outside looking in.

I’m not trying to rip on either program here. The bottom line is, there’s plenty of talent to go around in our state. No in-state program is ever going to land them all.

But taking an objective look at how they’re doing in the grand scheme of things, it appears there’s some room for improvement. I can only conclude, they’re doing OK.

What do y’all think?

113 comments Add your comment

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
5:50 pm

these dawgs wil go to war with whoever they have

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
5:51 pm

Worm

October 26th, 2010
5:52 pm

We’re doing fine..I believe Fox has the ability “to coach em’ up’!

Bama Baby

October 26th, 2010
5:53 pm

ROLL TIDE!!!!!!

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
5:55 pm

plus these things don’t happen over night it takes time to become a major power in recruiting. i give it 2-4 years before the REAL recruits see that UGA is ready to ball with the big boys. go dawgs

ryan

October 26th, 2010
5:56 pm

I think may have something to do with system triangle offence Fox has to get the right players for his system what you think Chip .

Finchdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:00 pm

Chip, for Brogdon, it’s Greater Atlanta Christian School, not Great.

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:00 pm

yeah worm, i mean look what he’s done with last years team, i didn’t expect the dawgs to compete at all, and didn’t expect them to get over 11 wins, and even though they had a losing record i was still anxious to see every game we played because of the way they fought in every game. now here comes in some fresh new talent to show the sec the dawgs are forreal

ryan

October 26th, 2010
6:01 pm

I think Parker will stay home of course stranger things can happen Bamma is not Basketball powerhouse .

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:02 pm

Georgia Sucks

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:04 pm

truth you must be a gt fan huh? how does you like being over-rated each and every year despite acquiring top flight recruits??

firsty

October 26th, 2010
6:06 pm

Fox is not a good recruiter. Same thing happened at Nevada. He rode on the talent that Trent Johnson recruited. After Trent’s players graduated Nevada stopped making the NCAA’s. Nevada did not go to the NCAA tournament Fox’s last two years. Same with last year. Fox’s recruits are not good enough.

Here he inherited two studs from Felton. He has had to go the juco route two years in a row. By the time the 7 foot juco kid figures it out he will be out of eligibility.

Fox is all talk. He cannot recruit with the big boys.

Great, candid article.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:09 pm

how does you like being over-rated each and every year despite acquiring top flight recruits??

Overrated?? Georgia is the most overrated team in the nation. Ask Mark Richt and Mark Fox

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:15 pm

said who? in georgia hoops we had a losing record last year, and one of the best coaches in our conference (Billy Donavon/ FL.) said we could be the best team in the SEC.. explain to me using your “all star tech logic” how that is labeled as being overrated??

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:19 pm

and as far as i know wasn’t tech in the top 20 in the polls at the beginning of this year? what happened? YOU LOST TO KANSAS (a team that just lost to a fcs school) uga on the other hand had its top player suspended for 4 games this year. guess how many losses uga has? thats right 4 one for every game he was suspended

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:21 pm

Basketball and Football Georgia is overrated!! When is the last time they won the SEC in Football? Hell I’m not even gonna ask about basketball cause you guys already know Georgia sucks in that.

Shawn U.

October 26th, 2010
6:22 pm

Rumors are circulating in Tift County that Fox has told some coaches, including Blue Devil head coach Eric Holland, that he has no intentions of staying in Athens any longer than 5 years. Perhaps the cat is out of the bag and recruits are seeing the light!

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:23 pm

Hell when a team is 2-7 in almost 10 years against FLORIDA!!!! You know they are possy! Georgia Football team is a bunch of wanna be thugs and when they see them gators then they are scared like a bunch of punks

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:25 pm

One player doesn’t make a team you loser. Stop using the same excuse because Georgia sucks. If colorado beat you guys then Georgia isn’t good. Hell I can run through that sorry defense Georgia has. Ask Mississippi State and Lattimore from USC about how soft that D is

firsty

October 26th, 2010
6:26 pm

Billy D. praised Georgia to take the pressure off himself. All the media pundits are praising Florida. That puts pressure on them so he deflects it onto Georgia to help himself. Get it?????

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:29 pm

haha i love it when you tech fans call players on the uga squad thugs. how many of the players have actually beaten, or commited a felony? very few, when you see UGA PLAYER ARRESTED its almost usually for drunk driving or speeding ticket issues. and if everyone who does that stuff is a thug, then i guess the majority of teens are thugs.

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:32 pm

and you capitalize florida like it is shocking we lose to florida well i guess i can say this then. you lose 9 of 10 times in 10 years against UGA!!! haha UF is a good team in most sports so you can try again

haters are skaters

October 26th, 2010
6:37 pm

you can’t get them all.

more effective to take a look 2-3 yrs from now to see how the recruits fare that fox signs. just as in football, not every recruit is meant to run the same system.

for example, grant runs a completely different defense and offense than fox does. that style may better suit jacobs.

BIG BEE

October 26th, 2010
6:38 pm

bgdawg, we feel just like you guys do with your under-acheving 4/5 star football recruits.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:40 pm

bgdawg answer this question: you said that how do you like being over-rated each and every year despite acquiring top flight recruits?? Ok and you said Georgia lost 4 games because of AJ Green being suspended.

Marlon Brown was a 5 star recruit
Orson Charles was a 4 star recruit
Rantavious Wooten was a 4 str recruit
Israel Troupe was a 4 star recruit
Tavarres King was a 4 star

So what is your excuse? Where are these players and why are they not good? Georgia is deep as any team in the nation but bad coaching hurts a player. Who is overrated and who is making excuses cause AJ Green doesn’t make a team by himself

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:46 pm

@ truth yeah a new 3-4 defense that was tested by the second best running back coming out of HS and ryan mallet a towering qb with a cannon for an arm, we are consistently getting better at D and lets see 3-1 with AJ 1-3 without AJ. one player makes a pretty big damn deal. i can list the ways he helps the team if you are too much of an idiot to figure it out yourself.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
6:49 pm

bgdawg Georgia won the Sugar Bowl in 2007 without AJ Green and beat Florida that year also. Ever since AJ Green stepped in a bulldog uniform he hasn’t beat florida so that one player excuse is wrong because Georgia almost got to the BCS Title Game without him.

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:51 pm

WTF tavarres king gets a great amount of playing time and is backup to the best WR in the nation!! orson charles is a STARTING TE and the rest are back-ups to an already deep WR core. marlon btw played in a sorry division and was not tested coming out of HS. the same can be said of Da’Rick Rogers from UT. @big bee. true. you are right

ryan

October 26th, 2010
6:54 pm

You have to give Fox a chance he has only been one season if does not work out then we should make a change .

Wondering

October 26th, 2010
6:55 pm

bgdawg truth is right, we shouldn’t be 4-4 right now and we should have only one loss and that should be south carolina. Our reciever core is one of the deepest in the nation but where were the recievers when AJ was out? Bad coaching, it hurts me and many fans to know most of our recruits don’t live up to the hype

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
6:56 pm

ok then remove mohammed massaquoi (1st round WR) from the team, you have NO WR. remove knoshon (1st round) and there is no running game. remove matt stafford (#1 overall) and there is no qb. do you have a clue what you’re talking about man? one player can make a huge difference

DT Jackson

October 26th, 2010
7:00 pm

Dawgs need a new basketball arena. May be the worst in the conference. Prez. Adams will never approve though. We’ll never have a Champ. football or basketball as long as he is prez.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
7:01 pm

Dude do you have a clue? Did you look at the recieves Georgia has sign the past 3 years. In 2008 with AJ Green, how far did Georgia go? To a boowl game with MSU. The proof is there, and the knowshon moreno leaving is BS. Even Caleb King was a 5 star. Dude you refuse to look at the recruits and how overrated they are

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
7:02 pm

@ wondering i AJ would be a drastic improvement to the O we have averaged 39 ppg in the 4 games we’ve had him back and 14 ppg in the 3 games he was out (not counting the scrub game. with aj we’d be undefeated if you look at the scores.

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
7:07 pm

bowl game for 3rd in the SEC where the #1 and #2 teams met in the SECCG. how is knowshon leaving BS? he was a great running back who is starting 2 years into the league and was drafted as the first RB. i won’t lie the recruits we have are overrated. i never said recruits aren’t overrated.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
7:07 pm

bgdawg Georgia should be 7-1, did you not see the South Carolina game? Lattimore ran all over that defense with the same play over and over and over. Even with AJ georgia still would have lost that game.

DRC

October 26th, 2010
7:07 pm

3-1 against who bgdawg? Vandy,Tenn.,Ky.? Big freaking deal.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
7:08 pm

And Knowshon Moreno was a 4 Star recruit and for him to outplay a 5 star Caleb King says a lot.

ACC

October 26th, 2010
7:13 pm

I guess if your headline was Is Tech Losing Recruiting Momentum no one would have read your article

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
7:20 pm

DRC-3-1 is 3-1 and btw we handily beat KY who beat SC and almost beat Auburn. @ truth, the star system doesn’t ,measure what you will do at the next level it just measures what your projected stock is. i remember hearing about a 2 star qb who was the most winningest qb in sec history and 2nd in the ncaa goes by DAVID GREENE. oh and how about a 2 star fullback named DAVID POLLACK or someone you might’ve heard of was 3 stars his name was bey bey thomas. star system only says how good you were in HS

dawgfan

October 26th, 2010
7:21 pm

wasn’t this supposed to be about bb? typical dawg fans here – that’s why we don’t have a great bb program. uga will always be a football school but some of us would like to have a great bb program. until the fan interest changes it wont happen and we wont keep fox either. just sayin

bgdawg

October 26th, 2010
7:27 pm

haha dawgfan i didn’t come in here wanting to talk about football but kinda got dragged into it.

Decatur Dawg

October 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

“the truth” is a tech loving d-bag.

The truth

October 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

bgdawg actually the star system is a projection on how well the recruit will impact the team. AJ Green and Julio Jones are representations of that

Decatur Dawg

October 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

hard to believe that Israel Troupe was a 4 star recruit if that is true

The truth

October 26th, 2010
7:37 pm

McDawg

October 26th, 2010
7:51 pm

Relax-these big recruits never stick around for more than a year or two-tough scrappy defensive oriented teams win at the college level

SEC Basketball

October 26th, 2010
7:58 pm

Chip, how quick we forget. It is his second recruiting class and already the second guessing. In the past we would not have been in the final discussion with this many guys!!! Give him another year to move up in the standings and see what happens. Congrats for the guys staying this year and the ones committing. They will be the ones along with the coaches known for turning the program around.

dawgfan

October 26th, 2010
8:02 pm

bgdawg – no problem, it happens to the best of us. i would like the Dawg faithful to get excited about bb though. i am sick of hearing from fellow fans that we don’t care about bb, only football. thats just plain stupid and just a coverup that we dont have a good mens bb program. womens? that’s a different story and it should be the same for mens bb. we should care about every sport the university competes in. just sayin

Leebo

October 26th, 2010
8:02 pm

Another year of mayhem in the Fox Hole, formerly known as the Stegosaurus, will help with recruiting. The biggest help to UGA, and all of college basketball for that matter, will be doing away with the one-and-done rule. Should be more like football’s rule of having to stay until done with your third year on campus, be it junior or redshirt sophomore.