Ten@10: Oversigning still an issue at LSU, Alabama

THE TEN AT 10

1. Oversigning to continues to be an issue in the SEC despite rules being instituted in the last year to curtail the practice. LSU is the latest culprit. After all 27 of the school’s 2010 signees qualified for admission this fall, the Tigers were left with two more than NCAA rules allow them to admit. So coach Les Miles asked two of the incoming freshmen to “grayshirt,” meaning they would delay enrollment until January, when they would count toward the next season’s scholarship total. Elliott Porter, a 6-foot-4, 290-pound defensive tackle from Waggaman, La., declined. Porter, an honors student, has since enrolled at Kentucky. Cameron Fordham, a tight end signee from Duluth whose father played for the Tigers, also declined the request but opted instead to pay his own way as a walkon this fall. He’ll be placed on scholarship in January.

Alabama, which has engaged in the practice of oversigning under coach Nick Saban, was bailed out recently when Alfy Hill, a defensive end/outside linebacker from Shallotte, N.C., was denied admission after the NCAA Clearinghouse rejected two online courses he had taken to meet entrance requirements. Hill has since transferred to East Carolina, where he was accepted as a partial qualifier and will have to sit out this season. Meanwhile, Hill’s departure opens the door for 2010 Bama signee Harrison Jones, a tight end who had agreed to grayshirt because the Tide was overbooked. Alabama has found all kinds of creative ways to get down to the NCAA’s maximum number of 85 scholarships, as detailed on the website Oversigning.com.

2. Carver-Columbus offensive lineman Quincy McKinney committed to South Carolina on Wednesday.  McKinney chose the Gamecocks over Southern Mississippi, North Carolina and Duke. “Quincy is very happy about becoming a Gamecock,” Carver coach Dell McGee said. “He really wanted to commit after an unofficial visit about three weeks ago. Now he can concentrate on academics.” McKinney (6-3, 275) couldn’t be reached for comment, but he told TheBigSpur.com: “I like that I will have the ability to play in the Southeastern ConferenceI liked all of the coaches and it’s the place I felt most comfortable at. It will be an honor to play for a legendary coach like Steve Spurrier.” The Gamecocks now have 15 commitments for 2011, including six from Georgia.

3. Who knows what to really believe? Rumors raged down at Florida that prized freshmen Ronald Powell and Dominique Easley skipped the Gators’ practice Tuesday in apparent protest over their alleged mistreatment by the coaching staff. Normally their presense at practice would be easily verified, but coach Urban Meyer has shut off all media access to practices for the season. So nobody can really be sure. Meanwhile, Gatorsports.com reported that both players were present at practice Wednesday because they were spotted entering the practice fields, smiling all the way, no less.

4. Speaking of the Gators, they have had two four-star signees quit this month — safety Jordan Haden and wide receiver Adrian Coxson. Both received unconditional releases from UF. Coxson, who was a main of UGA, has decided to transfer to Maryland. The destination for Haden, brother of former UF star Joe Haden, is still unknown.

5. Rivals.com football recruiting analyst Barry Every, a former UGA staff member, lists 17 prospects that are on the verge of possibly moving up to five-star status in their rankings. Included in that category are three Georgians — Thomas County Central DE Ray Drew, Carver-Columbus RB Isaiah Crowell and Monroe Area DE Stephon Tuitt. Currently the recruiting website has 13 five-star players. Next in line at No. 14 is Arizona OL Christian Westerman, followed by Punta Gorda, Fla, RB Mike Bellamy at 15. Drew is ranked 18, Crowell 21 and Tuitt 22. Last year Rivals rated 26 players as five-star recruits in their final rankings,including two from Georgia (WR Da’Rick Rogers, Calhoun; WR Markeith Ambles, Henry County).

6. Here’s a nice breakdown by our friends at Georgia High School Football Daily on seven excellent football players who haven’t attracted the amount of recruiting attention that probably deserve. Follow the link for details on each one but the prospects are: RB Ralph “RD4″ Abernathy IV of Westminster, LB Tanner Botts of Peachtree Ridge, WR Zach Walker of Johnson County, QB D.J. Rozier of Johnson County, QB Kyle Karempelis of Wesleyan, LB Merritt Hall of Wesleyan and RB Montavious “Whistle” Gladden of Washington County.

7. Another Tennessee signee failed to clear NCAA Clearinghouse hurdles for freshman eligibility. Safety Eddrick Loften is the latest to fall short of the NCAA’s minimum requirement for freshman eligibility, according to GoVolsXtra.com. He joins DB Marcques Dixon of Decatur’s Southwest DeKalb High, and DT John Brown of Northeast Mississippi Community College in the ranks of the unaccepted. Also, freshman receiver Justin Hunter, who has been impressive in camp, has been pulled from practices while the NCAA reviews an online class he took that he needs for certification.

8. Speaking of the Vols, the NCAA this week interviewed former assistant coach David Reeves Lane Kiffin’s brother-in-law — about Kiffin’s recruiting practices while in Knoxville, according to ESPN’s Joe Schad.  Reeves, now quarterbacks coach at New Mexico, was asked about recruiting hostesses attending recruits’ high school games, calls to prospects during an all-star game and recruiting weekends. The queries were part of what Schad reports is a “broadening NCAA investigation into Tennessee.”

9. Georgia is on top for 2012 running back prospect Matt Jones of Seffner, Fla., according to 247sports.com. “I have over 15 verbal offers right now,” Jones told the new recruiting website. “But really Georgia is on top right now for me. It’s still early and anything can change. But Georgia, Florida, and Miami are coming real hard for me right now.”

10. THIS & THAT: Georgia Tech is competing with Penn State, UNC and Southern Cal for the final two official visits of five-star cornerback Doran Grant of Akron, Ohio, according to Rivals. . . . McEachern TE Rory Anderson now favors Virginia over his other finalists, according to 247sports.com. His other four considerations are South Carolina, Tennessee, South Florida and Louisville. . . . DB Geraldo Orta (6-0 180) of Valdosta plans to take official visits to Clemson, Maryland, South Carolina, Tennessee and Wake Forest this fall. . . . LB Cedrick Cooper (6-2 , 205) of Lithonia High currently favors Clemson, according to 247sports.com. He is considering official visits to Clemson, Ole Miss, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee. . . . Florida got a commitment this week from defensive back Valdez Showers of Madison Heights, Mich.

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118 comments Add your comment

Mark Richt

August 26th, 2010
10:02 am

First!! My team will win the SEC this year!!

Worm

August 26th, 2010
10:14 am

Thanks Chip..BTW-24/7 sports is a great new service.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

August 26th, 2010
10:15 am

Ray Drew and Isaiah Crowell are the real thing. There is no reason why UGA should not get both. Last year they blew it with two top receivers Duh’Rick Rogers and Markeith Ambles – both at a priority needs position for UGA – wide receiver. Have you noticed that UGA rarely gets a top player out of Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana? Georgia needs to secure their borders the way Bama, Auburn and LSU do. They do a decent job in Florida and South Carolina but need to get more aggressive recruiting these other states. Now, on anoher subject, the NCAA should not allow Saban to keep over signing players. This gives him an unfair advantage. The rule should be changed to eliminate any loop holes and greyshirting should not be allowed. Time for a level redruiting field.

Glory Glory

August 26th, 2010
10:18 am

Slow recruiting news…….

Let’s get the season going!!!

GO DAWGS!!!! 9 days!!!!

john

August 26th, 2010
10:21 am

Mark Richt, been drinking again? As delusional as your band wagon fanbase.

theTruth

August 26th, 2010
10:24 am

CHIP, how much do you think ‘being honourable’ has hurt UGA as being the only other school besides Vandy to not oversign? I know we have had to turn some away b/c we where ‘full’, Omar Hunter comes to mind.

I like the fact that these kids know if they commit to UGA, that what they are promised will happen. They don’t have to worry about losing their scholly if they ‘don’t cut it’. How does prospects not see if they go to ’school A’ that they might have their scholly pulled?

theTruth

August 26th, 2010
10:28 am

FLORIDUH, yes, Ray Drew and IC are huge for UGA. They are on my ‘wish list’ with Jay Rome and we are in great shape with all three. I believe Ambles had character issues that shyed UGA away, well apparently we all know that Rogers had some issues as well.

John, what is delusional about UGA winning the SEC? Can you please name me the four schools that have won the SEC this century?

joe schmoe

August 26th, 2010
10:29 am

I have always advocated that only as many scholarships are available should be offered in a recruiting year (example: school has 20 scholarships for year, so they can only offer 20 students a spot, until that student signs with another school

From an Annonymous Blog

August 26th, 2010
10:30 am

All teams face their share of adversity. From coaching changes, to injuries, devastating losses, or even NCAA investigations. Whatever the case may be, each team has to deal with those problems, and move ahead doing their best not to let the problems become a distraction and prevent them from doing their job, preparing for the next game, and as a final result winning that game.

But what happens when you face an opponent you cant beat? What do you do when you are up against an opponent you cannot overcome, and an opponent that no matter what you do, where you go, how you perform, you will never come out a winner?

That seems to be the case with the University of Georgia and the local media. I am talking about that rag of a paper, the shame and disgrace of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution. They absolutely do not give the dawgs a break. UGA faces such stupidity and scrutiny there is no way they can possibly win.

Today is a fine example. Turns out that Louisiana-Lafayette returned about 600 tickets that they were not going to be using. Sanford Stadium will hold over 92,000 fans. The remaining tickets equates to .65% of the Sanford Stadium capacity. Thats right. LESS THAN ONE PERCENT. What is the headline of the AJC? It reads “Why isn’t Georgia’s home opener sold out?” Click the link Read it for yourself. Nevermind the fact that the associate athletic director Alan Thomas fully expects the general public to buy the remaining 600 tickets. Also, reports say that UL-Lafayette sold only 490 of its 4500 ticket allottment. that would mean from the remaining 4,010 that Georgia has sold 3,410 MORE tickets to just the general public. Tickets that are PROBABLY in the 600 level.

Want more??? Last week Georgia landed its 16th verbal committment for 2011, and the article was very vanilla. Meanwhile, the headline reads this week. “Could Stephon Tuitt be next for WHITE HOT Georgia Tech”. A team with only 13 commits. Really? Earlier this week, it read “GAC Basketball standout NIXES Georgia. Thats the link that you click on. Yes he chose Virginia, and other schools including Clemson missed out too, but that wasnt in the headline. Sure it was the headline once you clicked, but the attention getter was a shot and stab at only one team……Georgia.

Take a look up at Tennessee where in the last 4 years they had tickets available AT THE GATE ON GAMEDAY for the Georgia games as well as Florida. Did the Knoxville paper pour the gas and light a match? Nope. I assure you it wasnt because there were last minute tickets returned either.

Does the Birmingham paper give Bama or Auburn grief like that? Nope. What about in Baton Rouge? nope again. How about Lexington? Nashville? Starkville? Gainesville? Oxford? The answer is no all the way around. Not like the AJC does.

Up in Carolina, why isnt the papers making a bigger deal out of the motel rooms, the limo rides, and all the benefits that the gamecock players (now suspended) were getting? Didnt the VOLS have guys at 3am beating off duty cops unconscious on the sidewalk? What if that were Georgia players getting free rooms and limo rides. What if Bacarri Rambo, and Akeem Dent had beaten a cop along with civilians? Would they have gotten off? How far would the AJC have driven the nails into their cross?

I dont know what it is about the AJC. Maybe there are so many Vols, Gators, Tigers, and Nerds in that city that they somehow feel like they need to just cater to everyone, but the fact remains they are the most powerful paper in the state of GEORGIA. They do not have to be a “homer” news source and just cater to dawgs and jackets, but the tremendous scrutiny by writers and editors that obviously have an ax to grind is unbelieveable. Even the so called “LIFE LONG” Dawg fan is banning and censoring the REAL fans on his “blawg” while the joke that is the open forums can go with free reign.

Why does this matter? because there are lunatic fringe fans out there that have no better sense than to believe half the junk they write. Because recruits read the paper. Because the FAMILIES of recruits read the paper. Believe me, they see the “message boards” They see what is going on, and you better believe that the editors and writers over there at that place know it too. I can understand the criticism and the negativity if Georgia had a coach who wasn’t successful, or treated the media badly, or was just a jerk to deal with. But as we all know with Coach Richt, that isnt the case. Even this year, when he sent the media out a little early, they said he was different and more stern than ever, while never really doing anything out of line or even coming close. Think Saban or Meyer are fun to deal with? I have seen video and read quotes that prove otherwise.

Thats why Georgia cannot win this one. They are against an opponent that they cannot prepare for, and cannot line up against. The almighty news media, and their weapon of journalism, and the “open forum” they call message boards.

I will not leave it alone though, everytime they send me that little email survey I will tell them exactly how I feel and what I see them doing, and call them out on it. Will it matter? I dont know, unless you all see it the same way, and tell them the same thing. Whether I am the only one or not, there will be no doubt how I feel. The AJC STINKS.

GO Dawgs

Dawg Food

August 26th, 2010
10:32 am

Chip, What’s the NCAA rule say about a recruited prospect becoming a walk-on? As in the case of the LSU signee declining the grayshirt and paying his own way as a walk-on for this fall.

joe schmoe

August 26th, 2010
10:34 am

Dude what a waste of space… I just skipped over your blog entry.

Loyal Homer

August 26th, 2010
10:39 am

Oversigning is a real problem in college football. I touched on it a couple of weeks back on my website. Give it a look.

http://thesportsdebates.com/2010/08/05/the-ncaaf-over-signing-recruits-debate%E2%80%A6-dirty-unfair-business-targets-naive-student-athletes/

It’s unfortunate what happened to Porter. What do you guys think the answer is?

secbama

August 26th, 2010
10:43 am

Hey Chip: ‘Saban bailed out when NCAA denied Alfy Hill admisssion’. Hill was a 4* beast LB from North Carolina. Saban did not/would not want to lose him. But Saban will not be distracted either and it worked out that Harrison Jones (Barrett’s brother starting OL) would not have to grayshirt. This just paves the way for JACK linebacker JADEVEON CLOWNEY to commit to Bama. #1 overall player in nation. Going to get Isaiah Crowell too. Ingram goes pro after season, Richardson becomes starter for one year and Crowell fills role as Richardson did as Freshman and takes starting job as Sophomore when Richardson goes pro. Saban is a MACHINE! Deal with it Vols fans. Hey Chip, you are in Atlanta, quit giving such positive publicity to Derek Dooley. The Vols are going on probation for Lack of Instituitonal control and recruiting transgressions.

puppy chow

August 26th, 2010
10:44 am

I read where UGA has a young jittery QB going by their last scrimmage.
Yep, load up the box and focus on their lone WR and UGA is in for
another L O N G season.

Burdell

August 26th, 2010
10:51 am

Anonymous blogger…I see your point about the inflammatory headlines by the AJC but I also think that there are people out there that didn’t know there are tickets available to a UGA home game. The article and even the headline will help sell that game out…period. Only 9 more days…GO JACKETS and even GO DAWGS until post-turkey day.

Gerald

August 26th, 2010
10:56 am

theTruth:

UGA doesn’t need to oversign. UGA needs an offensive coordinator to better use the players that they have. They need a guy who can utilize the excellent RBs and TEs that UGA gets, maybe by going to a 2 TE or a TE/H-back offense that Jerry Rhome used to run with the Redskins back in the day. It is obvious that Bobo isn’t the guy.

Lots of programs don’t oversign. Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Miami, Ohio State and USC don’t, and look at all the success that they have had. As a matter of fact, USC doesn’t even carry 85 scholarship players. Most years they don’t even have 80. And then there was the Nebraska powerhouse of the 1980s and 1990s … most of their best players were walk-ons. UGA has to get better coaches to utilize the top 10 athletes they get year after year. That’s been Richt’s achilles heel, especially since Van Gorder (the guy who developed all those 4 and 5 star DL and LB recruits) left.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

August 26th, 2010
10:58 am

The truth- I think you meant name the 4 teams that won the SEC this decade – not this century. A lot more than 4 teams have won the SEC over the last century – even Kentucky!

intheknow

August 26th, 2010
10:59 am

secbama … you are an obvious idiot!

ryan

August 26th, 2010
11:03 am

Crowell and Ray Drew are Dawg Nation CMR and Todd Gratham have been recruiting harder for those athletes than anyone.

Burdell

August 26th, 2010
11:04 am

Flo-Ri-Duh—There are some people on these blogs that think they are clever by stating “this century” to mean the 21st century…i.e. the past 9 years…Like back during 2008 when all the UGA fans said Tech hasn’t beaten UGA this century. Pretty lame IMO. But obviously in that specific case I was biased.

dawgster

August 26th, 2010
11:07 am

Bama, has been doing this(Saban), for a long time,,,so have some other schools…its about time that this oversigning gets a little press…and “From Annonymous Blog” you are pretty much right on with your comments…Many of these “headline” articles are spinned as a negative towards the dawgs efforts, especially with regards to recruiting as you so well stated with the Basketball recruiti who just happen to sign at another school and not the dawgs…Back to the oversigning of players, i can’t recall any specific situation with the dawgs recently, but if they practice that too, then i don’t condone that either…But Bama, no excuse, Saban knows what he is doing and yet has gotten away with it…very unethical…maybe not a violation, but not ethical…and lets don’t leave out Miles at LSU…again its going to happen every so often but when you kinowing do it as part of your philosophy, i just think it is somewhat unethical…It hurts the players involved and…good for the young men who didn’t accept that condition and change schools…

JB

August 26th, 2010
11:08 am

Chip….. better not talk about Bama recruiting with TIDE ROLL on line today. Everybody just wants to play for Bama. What’s Saban to do but sign them.

Gerald

August 26th, 2010
11:10 am

Ralph David Abernathy IV is only 160 lbs. That’s his problem. But if he runs a legit 4.4 40, Georgia Tech should give him a look at A-back. Louisville will probably use him – assuming he goes there – the way that Florida uses Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps. Ole Miss probably would use him the way that they did Dexter McCluster.

Tanner Botts would seem to be a good OLB prospect for a team that runs the 4-3. Unfortunately, both UGA and Ga Tech run the 3-4. Auburn maybe?

Georgia Tech will eventually hand out a last minute offer to Zach Walker. His teammate Rozier should be glad to go to USL and to switch positions. The list of great 5′7″ QBs pretty much begins and ends with Doug Flutie.

Kyle Karempelis is probably being overlooked because he is white. (I can get away with saying such a thing because I am a minority myself.)

The Gladdin kid … see Walker. However, there are only so many undersized RBs GT can offer.

theTruth

August 26th, 2010
11:12 am

Floriduh and and even Burdell, yes I meant this century. Their are only 4 teams to win the sec THIS century. UA, UF, UGA, and LSU. Burdell, it might be lame, but it’s fact.

BigTimeTECHFan

August 26th, 2010
11:13 am

I saw Bama practice on ESPN – pretty good show.
Saban is a good coach, but it seems kind of rude to offer a kid a scholarship then tell him to grey shirt (come to school later)

If I’m a kid or parent I would request effective date on offer after reading this.

JB

August 26th, 2010
11:14 am

Chip say’s, and I quote ” Alabama has found all kind of creative ways to get down to the 85 limit”.
Chip, Tide roll will not be happy with you. He can’t figure out why all blue chippers want to sign with Bama. Bama just being Bama he say’s. It’s just the friendly, cuddly was he recruits and his smile and warm personality.

theTruth

August 26th, 2010
11:15 am

TechFan, it’s even worse for a guy that is told to take a medical redshirt when there is nothing wrong with him other than ‘he’s not good enough’.

dawgster

August 26th, 2010
11:26 am

Chip, any word on the RB up in New Jersey that the dawgs are high on…where do the dawgs sit on his list..I have seen several sites that list the dawgs as high…but i haven’t seen much lately…is it Sevan Higgens? thanks

GeoffDawg

August 26th, 2010
11:27 am

Duh’rick Rogers – 5 star talent / 1 star brain. Glad that he and noodle armed Nance aren’t Dawgs.

collegeballfan

August 26th, 2010
11:27 am

The section on oversigning is interesting. More proof that if allowed, coaches will cheat.

The oversigning can be stopped by a rule that says you can only sign 25 or the number of scholarship players on the Monday before signing day subtracted from the 85 max allowed.

Hmmmm...

August 26th, 2010
11:27 am

Truth, what about Auburn in 2004? That’s this century, right?

GeoffDawg

August 26th, 2010
11:29 am

Chip, mailbag question – any updates on the status of Phillip Daniels’ son out of IL? He’s supposed to be an elite WR prospect but last I heard, Georgia hasn’t offered him because he hasn’t visited the campus yet. It seems strange that a blue chip player and Georgia legacy seemingly aren’t on the radar.

BDAWG

August 26th, 2010
11:36 am

Gerald, I agree 100%. UGA’s offense is too simple and top DC have no problem with making adjustments to shut things down. Bobo has no creativity and considering that CMR came from Fla. St, he needs more input on what Bobo is doing. It does make me think that Bowden had more control over the offense with the way that CMR allows this offense to be ruined. That is no misspelling. With a pro-style offense there needs to be more creativity, especially with all of the weapons that we have on the bench. Bobo is also another reason why we can’t attract more top RB’s to the team. It is apparent that he can’t recruit and getting one player a year is not good recruiting. In order to compete year in and year out you have to keep the cupboard full and that is not the case. At UGA we should never have to rebuild, only plug in the next top athlete and keep on rolling. That is the way to build a Dynasty. I am a big time Dawg fan and i can see through the smoke. When CMR cleared out the defensive coaches, he also should have found a top OC as well. Hopefully things will be different this season and hopefully I am very wrong and we will be back competing with the top programs.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
11:42 am

Chip,

Why do you or anyone else care if Bama or LSU oversigns?

In Bama’s case we ended up right at our scholly # the last few years because of attrition from all sorts of things- medical reshirts-,players opting for pro baseball, recruits failing to qualify, transfers due to disciplinary problems. I think last year we may have had 1 or 2 players greyshirt and that’s it.

There’s no “creative ways” about it. Everyone has to be at 85 schollies and Bama is there just like everyone else and that’s all you need to be concerned with.

Last, because they did not oversign last year UT and AU played with 13 and 17 players under the scholarship limit of 85 because they failed to accurately account for expected attrition.

So I would like to pose the question to you. Is it worse that one or 2 players a year have to greyshirt and delay enrollment by 1 semester? Or is it worse that 30 scholarships went unused at 2 major sec schools- that 30 young men, mostly black young men from lower income homes- didn’t get to attend the dream of playing football at AU or UT on a football scholarship.

Chip, get back to me when you can morally justify why its better to have all those 30 lost scholarship opportunities at UT and AU in the name of not oversigning as opposed to 1 or 2 players having to delay enrollment for a semester because a coach oversigned . Also keep in mind that in the case of Bama the players greyshirting knew that this was a possibility in the recruiting process?

chazzo

August 26th, 2010
11:43 am

Don’t think for a second that UF is falling apart. Disgruntled recruits, homesick kids…. it happens in every program. Urban would love for everyone to think theship is sinking. Keep in mind none of these kids would have any major influence on the 2010 season anyway.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
11:44 am

JB,

Dadnabit we’re going to disagree again!

BigTimeTECHFan

August 26th, 2010
11:46 am

I wish ESPN showed Georgia Tech Practice like that.
1st Hoover, now Bama.
No dog in the hunt, but I’m hoping Auburn beats Bama this year. what should I say “WAR EAGLE”?

BigTimeTECHFan

August 26th, 2010
11:48 am

Plant with Wilder Jr and Ely will on ESPN friday night. Against Manatee, go Manatee, but I think there are better teams in Manatee the MHS.

1eyedJack

August 26th, 2010
11:53 am

Saban don’t give a lick about hurting those poor kids who are promised a spot that never materializes. I bet he sleeps like a baby.

GeoffDawg

August 26th, 2010
12:05 pm

I doubt Saban sleeps like a baby. Having that perpetual grimace on his face probably leads to TMJ.

David

August 26th, 2010
12:14 pm

What the hell is wrong with over signing as long as the rules are followed?
If you know anything about recruiting classes, less than half the yearly haul actually make it.
You hate Bama don’t you, I guess I can’t blame you. Bama kicks everybody’s butt.
Boo hoo

kaput

August 26th, 2010
12:32 pm

David,

‘Less than half the yearly haul actually make it?’ Dude, get a grip – you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

GeoffDawg

August 26th, 2010
12:54 pm

David, if less than half make it, then schools would be signing over 50 players per class. These aren’t the good ole days of the Bear talking about his mama anymore.

just a fan

August 26th, 2010
1:06 pm

actually the Truth there are 5 dont forget the burners in 04

chazzo

August 26th, 2010
1:08 pm

David has a point. If we don’ consider the lives, well-being, education, and professional opportunities of the players to be priorities, then oversigning works great. It keeps your rivals from picking up a good player, and it creates a survival of the fittest environment in your camp. Oversigning is great as long as you think of these young men as cattle who merely survive to give you bragging rights.

Vick=Dog killing Thug

August 26th, 2010
1:14 pm

good article Chip. Seems like your stepping up your game.

Georgia's D

August 26th, 2010
1:15 pm

Da’Rick will score 3 TDs against us this year.

Hunker Down

August 26th, 2010
1:15 pm

Chip

I appreciate you bringing to light a topic that I feel needs to be addressed, oversigning. While most Universities recruit above board being forth right with the recruits unfortunately some do not and it is unfair to the student athlete to think they are getting a full ride and then find out that the team/coach expects them to grayshirt. Porter is a good example of a player that is excited to come play at LSU and then is told we do not have room for you we are going to have to grayshirt you and he leaves the program to go play at UK. How disappointing to a young man in dashing his dreams and inspiration. I would hope that all of us college football fanatics like myself be aware of this questionable practice being performed by highly paid coaches using the student athletes as pawns for their own profit and statue. I hope the NCAA continues to intervene due to the fact that today winning comes first and foremost and unfortunatley coaches have to be restricted by rules not their own morales and ethics.

BuzzKill

August 26th, 2010
1:16 pm

SEC schools breaking NCAA rules on “over-recruiting?”

No!? Really!?

By the way, “grey-shirting” is a fraud.
Its just another name for “try-out” system.

“Grey-shirting” offers absolutely NO guarantee to a recruit
for the next year, even if the kid in still in school.

He will have to compete with all of the NEW recruits the next year, just to get the scholarhsip. Its a fraud, plan and simple.

If the kid doesnt get a scholly, he’s lost aat least a year or two on playing possibilities.

By the way, recruts have already started to figure that out.

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