Commitment Shaq Mason fits Georgia Tech to a ‘T’

Shaq Mason (54) plows a path for a Columbia Central running back during the state championship game last year. (Photo by Robert Fleming/Columbia Daily Herald)

Shaq Mason (54) plows a path for a Columbia Central running back during the state championship game last year. (Photo by Robert Fleming/Columbia Daily Herald)

Columbia (Tenn.) Central High coach Vance Bellew has had more than a few players recruited by major college programs. He said this week he wishes they all went about their business the way Georgia Tech did with Shaquille Mason.

Mason — better known as “Shaq” — is a wide-bodied, fleet-footed offensive lineman who helped lead the Lions to a runner-up finish in the state 5A playoffs in Tennessee this past season. The 6-foot-2, 307-pounder committed to Georgia Tech on June 12th during its Junior-Senior Camp.

“I give Georgia Tech and Coach [Andy] McCollum (Tech’s recruiting coordinator) a lot of credit,” Belew said. “They heard about him, they called about him, they came to the school and watched his film. They said they wanted him to come to their camp, he came, they liked him and they offered.

“They didn’t worry about who else had offered him or how many stars he had. I liked the way they went about it.”

The reality is, Mason did not have any other offers before the Yellow Jackets threw one his way in the middle of lunch during that camp the weekend before last. The website GoJackets.com lists him with offers from Clemson, Kentucky, South Carolina, Memphis and Middle Tennessee State. That’s simply not true, according to Mason.

Mason

Mason

“No sir,” he said. “I was getting recruited heavily by schools but I had no offers other than Tech.”

Mason, who has a 3.5 GPA and scored well on the SAT, said he had been hearing a lot from Clemson, Tennessee and Vanderbilt, among others.

There’s a picture on the Columbia Central High website of a pulling Mason absolutely road-grading a linebacker in the state championship game last December (I’m still trying to track down the photographer for permission to use it) and the running back breaking free up the middle of the field off the block. That, Belew said, is how the Jackets envision utilizing Mason, who starts at left tackle in high school but projects as a guard in college.

“We used him at both guard and tackle,” said Belew, who also played Mason at defensive tackle. “He moves so well we pulled him a lot to take advantage of his mobility. He’s a very good all-around athlete and very explosive at the point of contact.”

As for Mason’s recruitment, Belew believes it was really just getting started.

“I feel like he was going to get several offers over the course of the summer, just going by what coaches were telling us,” Belew said. “As far as the coaches that saw film of him and came here and saw him at our school, they liked him a lot. Some would like him to be a little taller. But he’s a 305-pound kid who is very athletic. To me he is a prize recruit.”

And Belew said Mason is still growing. He began last season at 6 feet, one-half-inch. He recently measured 6-2.

As for his courtship with the Jackets, it was quick. Mason said he hadn’t heard from them until McCollum came to one of his spring practices.

“I’ve always really liked Georgia Tech,” he said. “I didn’t really know that much about them but I’ve always liked the way the played and I like everything about the school.”

In particular Mason is intrigued by coach Paul Johnson’s spread-option offense.

“It’s a unique style of play,” he said. “I like it.”

And the Jackets like him.

102 comments Add your comment

jarvis

June 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm

Thanks Dan. I named 5 guys.

JAXDAWG

June 23rd, 2010
4:00 pm

Looks like a mugshot

Pope UGA XXIII

June 23rd, 2010
4:14 pm

This young man also had offers from Clemson, South Carolina,
and Kentucky, so he clearly has some potential.
It always bears repeating:
…………………check back in 5 years and you will know how
any signee worked out

Dan

June 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm

Fair enough, Jarvis. And since you asked –

- Jordan Luallen and David Sims are both higher rated than Josh Nesbitt was coming out of high school.
- Fred Holton is rated the same as Morgan Burnett coming out.
- Anthony Williams is rated the same as Derrick Morgan coming out.
- Anthony Allen (who chose Tech during Johnson’s tenure) will replace Dwyer and I feel just fine about that.

Now, as to the larger issue. Tech may not attract the “five star” guys but that doesn’t mean they won’t perform at the same level as the guys Tech just lost. Further, you essentially cherry-picked the best players on the team. Who’s to say the impact won’t come from another position?

Richt STILL voted GT higher than UGA

June 23rd, 2010
4:27 pm

Dan

A wise man once said “don’t argue with fools”. You’re wasting your time with presenting Jarvis with facts. St Richt could part the skies and descend down from his celestial thrown and tell Jarvis that his argument is bias and baseless and he’d still be unconvinced.

Let’s just be happy that we’ve got a great skipper at the helm and relish knowing that the future for GT football is as bright as it was in 1990….and what’s better, senseless dawg fans like Jarvis are frightened….not scared, but literally frightened.

Dan

June 23rd, 2010
4:31 pm

Richt – it’s interesting sometimes how folks see the finished product but forget that players like Bay Bay or Dwyer or Morgan were what the current recruits were a few years ago.

UGA fans are right though – we never have a higher ranking in recruiting. But, like you, I tend to have confidence that Johnson will still have Tech competitive on the field. And that’s good enough for me.

It’s also funny how just about every UGA fan here today has been nothing short of completely classy in their comments but a couple manage to still jump on and act like 5th graders (and Tech fans are equally guilty of that). It’s too bad because a rational discussion would be fun.

Typical Dawg Speak

June 23rd, 2010
4:35 pm

6′ and 300lbs sounds fat to me.

Richt STILL voted GT higher than UGA

June 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm

Dan

I was really impressed with the level of class that was displayed by the Dawg fans (other than a select few)

Hopefully we can see that more often. There is something noble about respecting your opponent until you must face them on the gridiron.

There is such a thing as having “clean old-fashioned hate” with class.

BigTimeTECHFan

June 23rd, 2010
4:44 pm

Dan to add to the point that rating don’t matter

“Jordan Luallen and David Sims are both higher rated than Josh Nesbitt was coming out of high school”

Washington is betting them both out on the field for 2nd string.

Dan

June 23rd, 2010
4:49 pm

That’s true, BigTime. I would say that Washington is probably a safer choice though because of his experience. Both Luallen and Sims have much higher upsides I think and will be capable of running the show when Nesbitt leaves.

Billy O

June 23rd, 2010
5:15 pm

Sounds like a great kid and possibly a great player……nice pick up……go dawgs….

jarvis

June 23rd, 2010
6:03 pm

Dan….I took no shots at this kid. I think the way he was recruited was fine.
The point I was making was that Tech’s big contributers are usually highly recruited. Others on this blog like to ignore that fact.

Delbert D.

June 23rd, 2010
6:47 pm

Luallen is 3″ taller than Nesbitt and weighs the same. 4-star, #22 QB nationally, top 10 dual-threat by Scout and Rivals. Wing-T QB. Led team from 19 down to win state championship. He was a sprinter in HS track.

Washington has 2 years in the system, getting a few snaps last year (not enough for a letter). Was #60 QB (Scout), 6A All-State in Alabama.

Sims is 5′11, 220. #54 QB (Scout) 3-star. #20 athlete by ESPN. Passed and rushed for over 1,000 as senior.

Chad Cookler

June 23rd, 2010
6:48 pm

I remember a few years back in Paul Johnson’s last year at Navy when they beat Notre Dame in South Bend. Here’s the bio of Notre Dame’s Trevor Laws, who is still unburying his butt from the Notre Dame turf. This kid was absolutely destroyed during this game by the little old, no stars next to their name Navy OL. In other words, there’s a high likelihood that Mason will be kicking the living hell out of some overhyped UGA DL recruit in the next few years. Laws, I believe is in the NFL right now.

Trevor Laws
HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL DATA: Graduated from Apple Valley (Minn.) High School … a USA Today first-team prep All-America defensive lineman … a first-team ESPN.com All-American … generally rated the number-two defensive tackle in the nation … ranked 10th on the Detroit Free Press Best of the Midwest squad … Gatorade Player of the Year in Minnesota … rated 41st on ESPN’s list of the nation’s top 100 players … named to the 10-member SuperPrep team by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune … the Minnesota Lions Club Athlete of the Year … member of the Minnesota Vikings all-state team … recorded 87 tackles (17 for loss) and 11 sacks as a senior in 2002 … played tackle and guard on offense … a Minnesota first-team all-state selection at defensive tackle … made 85 tackles, 10 sacks and 25 tackles for loss as a junior in 2001 … a two-way, three-year starter … invited to play in U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio but declined because of a wrestling commitment … also selected to play in the Minnesota All-State Bowl

Delbert D.

June 23rd, 2010
7:07 pm

Highly recruited? Not all contributers were.

Roddy Jones:
Rivals 3-star, #39 RB, #35 in state
Considered Clemson, Maryland, Duke, Indiana

Tech career, 2008-2009:
1035 yds rushing, 7.7 avg.
2-time All-ACC Academic Team

Delbert D.

June 23rd, 2010
7:11 pm

Shaquille Mason:
2011 Scout.com HS Football Rankings:
Pos: OG Pos Rank: #40 Pos Rating: 3 Stars

Puke Colored Gold

June 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm

Wait until the U

midgajacket

June 23rd, 2010
9:11 pm

Chip, a little leg work would have made this article an excellent one. I di the only interview with Shaq and in the interview there is no mention of any offer for him besides the one from Georgia Tech. In fact I had to find his profile from the Ole Miss site and Shaq told me that Ole Miss was never recruiting him. The offers did not come from GoJackets.com site, they came from another Scout.com site. So while GT is technically his only offer, the GoJackets.com site had zero to so with setting up his profile and offer sheet.

The Voice of Reason

June 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm

Saying that the star system means nothing is simply illogical. Look at the schools who are consistently in the top 5 in recruiting class rankings and consistently bring in 4 and 5 star recruits… Alabama, Texas, USC, Florida, Oklahoma, etc. How well do those programs do in Fall? Pretty damn well. Are there unranked and 3 star recruits that turn out to be pretty damn good? Absolutely. But the evidence is undeniable. A top rated recruiting class, more often than not, results in top results. There really isn’t any denying that. Even look at GT. Chan had an epic recruiting year when he picked up JN, Dwyer, Morgan, etc., and they were all 4 star recruits. Again, it’s illogical to dismiss the star system when your favorite and most productive players are all 4 star recruits. I mean, I’d love to hear someone debate this argument.

So while I admit there are some gems… more often than not, a recruiting class with 4 and 5 star players turns out pretty damn well. If you do a little research into 4 and 5 star players, and how well they turn out in the NFL, there is a significantly higher percentage than 2 and 3 star players. Again, I really have never seen any evidence pointing to the contrary. I think the more obvious fact to point out is that GT rarely has a highly rated recruiting class, so they insult the star system. Don’t forget who led you to your ACC championship, fellas… It was a bunch of 4 star recruits that came from CG.

The Sham

June 23rd, 2010
9:51 pm

YYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN – y’all are still at it?

Frightened? What a bunch of delusional nerds!

You win some you lose some with both games and recruits (y’all just lose more than us) – NOW THAT’S REALITY!

Tokyo jacket

June 23rd, 2010
10:48 pm

Like many of you, I’m glad that GT is recruiting the system. I expect that Groh will start to land some of the more talented defenders in the country next year, if not this year. For those of you that don’t follow recruiting, GT has had 4 or 5 visits from 5 star players. That’s up three or four from last year and we had none the previous year. Number 1 RB, OLB, and MLB have all visited, plus one more. These kids don’t commit early. I think we might land one, maybe. We’re not every going to compete w/ UGA in stars because we don’t have the fanbase on Scout or Rivals to boost player rankings. Plus there’s calculus. Plus, their dudes are generally better pro prospects than ours. And, their guys tend to be bigger and faster than ours.

But, CPJ has developed his talent at ALL positions nicely since he’s arrived. If you have a coach that can develop talent and strategize on the field, that’s worth 10 wins a year. Look at Beamer. His classes are generally ranked somewhere between 40 and 20, usually higher. He has won 10 games or more 7 consecutive seasons and appears poised to do it again – longest streak in the country.

One more thing to show the lack of value in recruiting rankings. Clemson has averaged about 12 spots higher than GT over the past 6 years. In that time, we’re 6-1 against them. Looks to me like their guys aren’t as valuable as the experts think or they don’t develop them.

GT Fan

June 23rd, 2010
11:09 pm

Hey “Puke Colored….”

Do you & your boyfriend (One tech koolaid tech fan) lump this tiny guy in with the 6-10 other GT linemen that are 280lbs or heavier, you mental-midget!

Tokyo jacket

June 23rd, 2010
11:23 pm

Voice of Reason, you’ve got a good point. But it’s incomplete. A LARGE part of winning is developing players. Those schools you listed are great at developing players and rarely have to play freshmen. They don’t rebuild, they reload. But, you’re leaving out FSU, Miami, and USC(e). They have both recruited top 25 classes for about 5 years now and have only one Top 25 finish among them, I believe.

The star rating is INEFFECTIVE because about half of all five stars are not even starting (or in the NFL) in what would be their 4th/5th years. You get about the same number of 5-stars, 4-stars, and 3-stars in the NFL. Surprisingly, I think you get the most 2-stars in the NFL, could be 3-stars though. But that’s because there’s so many of them.

The star rating system IS EFFECTIVE because the “average” 5-star is better than the “average” 4-star and so on. However, there is no such thing as an “average” 5-star. You either make it or you don’t. The USCs of the world just recruit so many that when one guy doesn’t cut it, they have another to step right in.

Clarification

June 24th, 2010
12:35 am

Tokyo Jacket,

It makes perfect sense that there are more 2 or 3 stars than 5 stars that make the NFL, since the number of players awarded 5 star ratings is so small. Percentage-wise, the 5 star pool sends more to the NFL than any other ratings class. And the 4 star pool sends a higher percentage than the 3/2 star pools.

The star rating system is quite EFFECTIVE at judging probability. No one can say for certain how a player is going to develop or mature, and not even the great PEE JAY gets it right 100% of the time.

(((( 30 – 24 ))))

Wreckmaniac

June 24th, 2010
12:45 am

Mason sounds like a great young man who could be terrific for Tech but it remains to be seen how he will handle offers from other schools and the temptation to go elsewhere. That’s tough to handle at his age but regardless of what he ultimately decides I wish him the best. He sounds exceptional which is what Tech always seeks.

Wreckmaniac

June 24th, 2010
12:54 am

Voice of Reason: The contest is not about who goes to the NFL but how the chosen college team does. Who cares about who does what in the NFL ?. This is the key problem with college recruiting in general. Some care about a kids professional career. Others like me care about what they achieve in college. Upon departure from college, I don’t keep up with them. I say play college football on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and drop the NFL from TV altogether or show it after midnight. College sports is NOT in business to provide pro players. And I know most will think I’m wrong. If the NFL and NBA went out of business tomorrow I say we would be in a better world and we would get to see great basketball and football players stay at the colleges we care about for 4 years. Hurray !!!!!

Tokyo jacket

June 24th, 2010
1:31 am

Clarification, I think you just restated exactly what I said. Therefore I agree with you. Just remember that word “probability.” That means the likelihood of a successful player, not that the player will be successful.

Wreck, I’m likening college success to making it to the NFL. I know it doesn’t always work out that way (see Joey Heisman), but it’s generally accurate.

The Voice of Reason

June 24th, 2010
1:42 am

Tokyo Jacket,

“Clemson has averaged about 12 spots higher than GT over the past 6 years. In that time, we’re 6-1 against them. Looks to me like their guys aren’t as valuable as the experts think or they don’t develop them.”

Well, UGA has outrecruited Tech the last 9 years, and over those 9 years, they are 8-1 against Tech. So, that provides a perfect counter for your Clemson example. But that’s exactly what GT fans do, they always point to the exception to prove the norm. Again, doesn’t make any logical sense. Talk to a Tech fan, and they’ll point you to the 3-star on the Tech team who contributed well, but significantly less, than the 4-star recruits that Chan pulled in. It’s classic.

Wreckmaniac, you took my comment out of context. We were debating how good a player will be, and how accurate star ratings are at determing that. I think that NFL success is an extremely relevant, neutral factor (not the only factor, but a factor nonetheless).

Tokyo Jacket, your entire argument hinges on one simple line: “Those schools you listed are great at developing players and rarely have to play freshmen.” That’s a great opinion, but how in the world do you substantiate that point? You can’t. No way can you simply say… “Well, they’re better at developing those players… it’s just a coincidence that they were highly rated coming in out of high school”. And, to turn your overly simple assumption around on you, if you have coaches that are good at developing players, why would you not want your coaches to be developing 4 and 5 star recruits? You would claim that it’s because a 3 star is equally likely to develop into a fantastic talent as a 4 or a 5 star. I don’t buy it.

And finally, let me point to the hypocracy about Tech fans. When 4 and 5 star recruits don’t come to your school, they’re overrated. But when 4 and 5 star recruits visit your school, you couldn’t be more excited about it. Perfect example, to quote you: “For those of you that don’t follow recruiting, GT has had 4 or 5 visits from 5 star players. That’s up three or four from last year and we had none the previous year. Number 1 RB, OLB, and MLB have all visited, plus one more.” So, in one comment, you claim that 5 stars are overrated. In the next, you substantiate how good the coaches are doing by listing how many 5 star recruits they’re having visit. Are you serious? I mean, are you serious? Do you not see how that completely contradicts everything you have said?

I am walking circles around you. You know it. I know it. The people reading this know it.

The Voice of Reason

June 24th, 2010
1:56 am

So now that I’ve busted up your logic, let me bust up your facts. Since you are a self-proclaimed follower of GT recruiting, which 5 star players have visited GT? Tuitt isn’t a 5 star, on Scout or Rivals. So please name these players. I’d love to hear it.

Jaquizz4Heisman

June 24th, 2010
1:56 am

Yeah, “Voice of Reason” is, in fact, the voice of reason on this one.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
2:24 am

I second that

rogeriter

June 24th, 2010
6:24 am

AS a dawg fan, if only recruiting rankings mattered, there would be no need to play the games. Go dawgs–but do it with class, not insults of 18 year old kids!

We_Run_This_Country

June 24th, 2010
8:12 am

VoR (or lack thereof…..) – visits have been made by: Tony Steward (#2), James Wilder, Jr. (#3), Curtis Grant (#8) – all rankings are based on the entire country. These visits have all been made public, the other players are not of public knowledge yet. GT will land 2 of the guys named above.

trueUGAfan

June 24th, 2010
8:21 am

good pick-up for GT, smart kid and he’s about his business (academics), congrats…

bitter UGA fan"

June 24th, 2010
8:25 am

we could have signed him butt nash nance dad bought him a car too. dont buy carpet from calhoun no moo, f@@#@$% nancy pants, de”rick kiss it punk, “o” nice pick up techy punks, still we rule this land, damn good pick up, stop hatein great size and balance, still, tech blows

SILLY UGA FANS

June 24th, 2010
9:46 am

It would be stupid to say as a GT fan that we would not enjoy signing 4-5 star recruits on a regular basis as some schools enjoy. Will it ever happen, NO. You can say GT fans are wrong all day long but GTs academic standards and lack of generic degrees kills us in most recruits minds. I will give UGA fans a case in point. The great A.J. Green barely made it through high school with four tutors and had to take the SATs again just to get into college. Even if he loved GT football he never would have played here. BY the way if you did not know he choose UGA over USC because he stated “I like UGAs colors”. I hate to bash Green because he actually is a good kid, but he coasted through Summerville High because he was a great football player and got into college because he is a great football player and players like that simply will not enter GT. I believe Groh will get some 4-5 stars and CPJ given time to prove the system will start to get some as well. CPJ is only two seasons in coming off of major coaching changes and GT simply is not a Fla, FSU, UGA, USC, or Notre Dame where kids are going to come no matter what the state of the program is.

SILLY UGA FANS

June 24th, 2010
9:55 am

With that said I like some of the recruits the staff is bringing in. They may not jump of the page at you, but thier upside looks good and only time will tell how well they will play.

Jacquizz4Heisman

June 24th, 2010
11:02 am

“We_Run_This_Country” You’re wrong. James Wilder, Jr has not visited Ga Tech yet and GT will be extremely lucky to sign 1 of the 3 recruits in which you previously mentioned. You must only read GT recruiting articles… time to branch out and get a bigger picture

midgajacket

June 24th, 2010
11:05 am

Voice of Reason – Well we just have had Doran Grant and Curtis Grant visit GT and they are both 5* recruits. Also, both Kasen Williams and James Wilder have GT in their final lists of schools and will visit and they are 5* recruits. Need anymore?

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
11:57 am

So We_Run_This_Country has lost credibility (i.e. James Wilder has not visited, which is confirmed by another GT fan, midgajacket). Midgajacket, final list of schools? You mean the final lists that run anywhere from 5-10 teams long? That’s impressive… Also, didn’t this kid Shaq just call out the lack of credibility of GoJackets.com? And finally, you Tech fans seem to be pretty intrigued w/ the 5 stars that have (allegedly) visited you. You even brag that you’ll get 2 of the 3. I thought that 5 stars were overrated? Man, you guys just can’t seem to put together an argument that doesn’t contradict itself. Sour grapes fellas, sour grapes. Don’t want ‘em until you think you can get ‘em.

midgajacket

June 24th, 2010
12:04 pm

Gators – Where did I brag we might get two or three of them. I just pointed out that the flaws in Voice of Reason post. As for Shaq calling out GoJackets.com, that is completely untrue. He said he didn’t have any offers and he is correct because I know the person that interviewed him for GoJackets.com very well and in the article the writer said that GT was Shaq’s only offer. You guys need to get your stories straight before running off at the mouth.

I am not a star gazer, if the coaches like them then that is what counts for any school. If the kid isn’t a player then the coach needs to either get better film and a better eye for talent or he’ll be gone real soon. If the kid is a player then he is doing his job. The only people that care about stars are the casual fan and the UGA fans that love to run off at the mouth.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
12:11 pm

Typical Tech arguments:

1. The recruiting sites are biased toward programs w/ a big fan base (but now that you think you are getting 4’s and 5’s to look at you, it’s no longer biased)
2. We can’t get good athletes because our academic standards are too high (you have a kid that beat his g/f, your starting QB in Reggie Ball a few years ago couldn’t count, and have you ever seen Dwyer in an interview? Kid isn’t very bright. And Morgan just got a ticket for driving w/ suspended license or something? Yeah, GT really recruits the high class, intelligent players…)
3. CPJ needs time to get his own recruits (have you not noticed that none of CPJ’s recruits have made an impact at all? CPJ is winning off of the pro-style talent that your old coach brought in.)
4. Al Groh will bring in top recruits (Al Groh just got fired from UVA, where his defense was absolutely terrible. I don’t think that a 65 year old man can relate to recruits. plus, has he even signed a single top recruit yet?)

ACC champs… that’s impressive.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
12:16 pm

midgajacket, where did i say that you did brag? What I said: “you Tech fans seem to be pretty intrigued w/ the 5 stars that have (allegedly) visited you. You even brag that you’ll get 2 of the 3.” Read more carefully, that was a general shot at tech fans.

And you are wrong about the people who care about stars. The top schools car and so do their fans. And they’re winning meaningful champioinships. And finally, how did you manage to even bring UGA into this? You guys are obsessed with them. It’s creepy.

midgajacket

June 24th, 2010
12:29 pm

If you think schools and coaches care about stars then you are very delusional. Attend a signing day function and ask a coach about stars, he’ll say that they don’t even know what amount of stars a recruit has. I know because I’ve been to them and heard them answer these questions.

As for the “allegedlly” visits by your 5* recruits to GT, they had 3 just this past week, Tony Steward, Curtis Grant, and Doran Grant with James Wilder and Kasen Williams to visit too. I’m just pointing out the flawed logic of a UGAG fan, he brought himself into this arguement, I didn’t bring him into it.

BTW, Coach Groh brought in two 4* recruits last year in his short time on the staff before signing day. Louis Young and Jeremiah Attaochu. Guess you fail to do your homework too.

I know GT will never get the stars like Florida and UGAG and the factory schools because they can’t hide them in meaningless majors but that is okay, GT will be just fine and win their share of games. Even with our “lesser talent” we won a MNC since UGAG has won their last one.

Dan

June 24th, 2010
12:30 pm

If recruiting 5 star guys was so important, Gators Natl Champs, Ron Zook would still be your coach. Move along please.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
2:24 pm

You’re right. Urban Meyer is winning with all 3 stars and no 4’s or 5’s….. Nope. You guys are missing the point. Step 1 is recruiting top talent. Step 2 is developing that talent. We are discussing Step 1. I never said that Step 2 wasn’t equally (if not more) important. Zook couldn’t do Step 2, agreed. But to say that Step 1 isn’t important if you have Step 2 is silly and illogical. Again, I don’t think any of you can even disagree with that. You all get jacked up at the fact that 5 stars are visiting you! So to summarize, of course coaching is important. I don’t ever remember saying it wasn’t. Dan, can you point me to a place where I’ve said that? Or where anyone on this entire blog has said that? Thanks, didn’t think so. Move along.

I think we all agree that Florida is good at recruiting, yes? Ok, so if Florida is recruiting a whole bunch of 4 and 5 star recruits, doesn’t that give the star system some credibility? Come on, take your GT bias out of this argument for two seconds.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
2:26 pm

“I know GT will never get the stars like Florida and UGAG and the factory schools because they can’t hide them in meaningless majors but that is okay”

Uhhhhhhh….. don’t most of your players major in Management? And isn’t management known at your school for being the fall-back, easy major? Management has to be the most meaningless major at your school! I have a good number of Tech fans, and every single one agrees with that.

Gators Natl Champs

June 24th, 2010
2:28 pm

This is too easy

midgajacket

June 24th, 2010
4:35 pm

Keep showing your ignorance Gator, even “if all the student-athletes” went into management they would still have to take the required two courses of Calculus at GT. However, we a few ME’s, a couple of EE’s, and hey even our ALL-ACC 1st team center (All Academic ACC too) in majoring in Aerospace Engineering. Not that any of those are easy majors. I’m sure you could breeze through the courses without opening a book. Dude, you are completely out of touch with what our athletes major in so why do you continue to make yourself look like a fool on these blogs. You make good entertainment I will say. You are giving the Mutt fans a run for their money for ignorance.

midgajacket

June 24th, 2010
4:37 pm

I will call you out on your “so called Tech fans” saying it is an easy major. It isn’t.