Georgia Tech’s class short on star power, long on meeting needs

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Georgia Tech signee and early enrollee B.J. Bostic is going to start out at cornerback but could play almost anywhere on the field for Yellow Jackets. (AJC photo by Jason Getz)

Georgia Tech’s 2010 recruiting class is kind of hard to figure.

The Yellow Jackets never seem to blow away the national pundits, and this year was no different. Their group of 18 signees rated a No. 41 ranking from Scout.com and a No. 43 from Rivals.com. But Tech never seems to garner a very high national recruiting ranking — average of 43.25 over previous four years per Rivals — and, last time I checked, it remains the defending ACC champion.

And it was a small class, seven below the NCAA allowed maximum of 25. So that’s going to impact the ranking as well. In that case it’s probably more accurate — and I use the term loosely here — to refer to the signees’ average star rating. Based on Rivals’ assessment that’s a very respectable 3.17 stars, which ranks 26th overall. Scout’s is a little lower at an average of 2.89 stars. Not bad considering they’re counting two 2-star recruits in kicker Justin Moore and running back Tony Zenon. I’d say that would fall in the range of good to average.

Also making the Jackets’ class hard to quantify is the versatility of its athletes. Barry “B.J.” Bostic, Synjyn Days and Jake Skole all could play either side of the ball. And Bostic in particular could play literally any skill position on offense (I really like that kid, who was an AJC Super 11 selection for us). As I understand it the plan is for Bostic to start out at cornerback, Skole at safety and Days at quarterback. But some or all of that could change. So stay tuned.

It could be said the Jackets class lacks a little when it comes to star power. Under Armour All-American Ryan Ayers, a cornerback from South Paulding and another Super 11 designee, is about as close as you’ll get to a “national recruit” in this class. And late addition Louis Young, a four-star corner from Washington D.C., didn’t get the national accolades but could turn out to be great. But not a lot of wow factor after that.

That said, I think Charles Perkins, who at No. 5 overall was the highest-rated running back in the AJC Top 50, may be underrated nationally and could have an impact, if not right away then in the very near future. Also, defensive end Anthony Williams, who will play outside linebacker in new defensive coordinator Al Groh’s system, has a chance to be a special player.

Some recruiting analysts, such as JacketsOnline.com’s Kelly Quinlan, really like the Jackets’ new interior defensive linemen Shawn Green and Denzel McCoy. I’m not as sold on them, especially as one-gap guys in Groh’s alignment. But that’s always a difficult position to assess. And they’re both great kids, academically and personality-wise.

As for misses, I’d say the Jackets  probably needed to bring in at least one wide receiver, especially with the loss of all-world pass-catcher Demaryius Thomas. Rising sophomore Stephen Hill is expected to step in to the primary role and, as I’ve said, they have options out of this class. And, of course, you never have enough offensive linemen, in my opinion.

But, as always recruiting is about filling needs. And for that Tech did quite well. The Jackets needed defense and they went out and signed 12 defensive players. They needed secondary in particular and it’d be hard to find a team in America that did better as a group than Tech did with Isaiah Johnson, Fred Holton, Ayers, Bostic, Skiole and Young.

I’ll give them a B-plus.

What say you?

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73 comments Add your comment

toph

February 10th, 2010
4:00 pm

I’m a Dawg fan, but I would say that Tech addressed their needs which is what they needed to do. Nothing flashy, same as UGA, but productive none the less.

RxDawg

February 10th, 2010
4:01 pm

F!

hehe, just kiddin. I’m sure the bee’s did fine.

GATA

February 10th, 2010
4:08 pm

How can the AJC give Tech and the Dawgs the same B+, when the Dawgs had a much better class?

Burdell

February 10th, 2010
4:12 pm

Always a dog fan whining about something…earn it.

Ace

February 10th, 2010
4:18 pm

ajc hates UGA

The Stinger

February 10th, 2010
4:27 pm

I am a Tech fan but, I have never really been sold on CPJ’s offensive system. Yes I know what the team did this year and that we have not had these types of seasons in the past. CPJ is going to have to adapt to sustain period. I love his attitude so I know he is not going to. I like the class we brought in and the fact that many of them can go on the field next year especially on the defense. The secondary could not get any worse and with those additions and DCAG could be very improved. Offensivly we have to get BIGGER on the OFFENSIVE LINE. We are not going to be able to run over everyone outside of the ACC if we do not. The option is all about the dive. If we cant get three yards everytime we will never be able to get all the other aspects of the offense working. I know CPJ does not like big o-lineman because they are typicaly slower and the top recruits are most likely not to come here because of the system. We have to adjust and quit the cut blocking and do some drive blocking. I do like the incomming class and think our coaching staff can get the most out of what we have. I just hope CPJ has learned after the two imbarrasing loses in our bowl games.

The Ole Ball Coach

February 10th, 2010
4:31 pm

It’ the way the AJC reports …. UGA class is not good enought but Georgia Techs is under the Radar …. blah, blah, blah…….

David

February 10th, 2010
4:37 pm

Chip, Denzel McCoy will play DE in the new defense, and had over 30 offers from USC, Tenn, Alabama, ND, I don’t care if you don’t like him. Shawn Green is so low to the ground and plays with great leverage, he is perfect for the DT position and once again had a lot of offers from top schools. Louis Young is “ranked” higher than Ayers.

Jacket Backer

February 10th, 2010
4:39 pm

this looks like a very solid class to me…..we need help on the Oline and defense and it looks like we helped ourselves in these areas……CPJ does not need highly ranked classes to win ballgames….he will recruit players that fit his system and he will continue to do what he has done everywhere he has been, WIN!!!…..its a GREAT time to be a Jacket!

Navigator

February 10th, 2010
4:42 pm

If Tech had a QB that could through the short pass accurately to go with the option, dangerous would be an understatement. However, they don’t and the run will have to be the offense. We’ve their passing attack last season was through the ball up and let Thomas take it away from the DB. Now folks that not a QB with passing talent. It’s the short ball the kills the defense not 2-3 long ones in the game.

blackbee

February 10th, 2010
4:44 pm

Tech under recruited and it will come back to bite them. Though I understand why Tech put all it’s stock into recruiting in state kids. That is good and bad. They loss an advantage that they have, some kids do want to come to Atlanta and the city is considered a mecca nationally in the African-American community. Here this state touches talent filled Florida and Tech only signed one kid from Florida. Not good. On the other hand Purdue, Wake Forest etc. signs 10-11 I have to believe some of those kids would have looked at Tech. In the past Tech would get a couple of kids from La. but not under CPJ. Or what about the big linemen and LB’s from Pa. I’m not trying to say it is bad but I believe Tech must have a presense in Florida, Texas, La. Pa. to go with all the in-state kids to be a National contender.

The Dude (Andrew Sherwin)

February 10th, 2010
4:50 pm

Are “dawg” fans really whining about AJC coverage? Seriously? Coverage is based on relevance, in case you weren’t aware. Georgia Tech has been more relevant the past 12 months or so. To say any different is an admission if ignorance.

dg

February 10th, 2010
4:56 pm

Denzel McCoy signs with LSU or USC, he’s automatically a 4 star. THAT’S how recrootin’ works.

collegeballfan

February 10th, 2010
4:59 pm

No one will know for three years. You guys go have a cup of coffee or a cold one.

Burdell

February 10th, 2010
5:03 pm

Quite eloquent Navigator. Just “throughing” you a bone…HA!

Butts Wagner

February 10th, 2010
5:10 pm

I don’t understand the issues everyone has with this recruiting class. That average ranking of 43 over the past 4 years is pretty skewed when you consider that 2007 was such a good class(what were they? 18th in rivals?). Go back and look at GT’s classes in the 2000s on Rivals and Scout. They were all in the 50s and 60s except for 2007. Also, the average star ratings were typically in the low 2’s. For GT, this is a really good recruiting class. Maybe the success of the last two years has increased expectations, and that’s why the class is considered mildly disappointing. As a fan, I’m really excited to see that CPJ has brought in a class that’s much better than the typical at Tech and look forward to future progress in increasing the talent level on the team.

plug-in

February 10th, 2010
5:17 pm

The Stinger; I understand doubters from the other state school but not from fans of GT regarding the Johnson offensive system. Just you wait and see my friend, however if the past two seasons didn’t convince you, the continued success of the program Tech is about to experience probably won’t either. This ride is going to be fun to watch I just wish you had the ability to understand how the offense works so you could enjoy it also. And by the way, three yard dive plays and dive blocking are not a part of this system (unless it is a called dive play which is rare) – if you will let go of “three yards and a cloud of dust” mentality you will make a big step in understanding what is supposed to happen. Think 7 yards or better per play and instead of watching for piles from dive blocking watch for gaps beyond the line of scrimmage from downfield blocking. You will enjoy it more, I guarantee.

question

February 10th, 2010
5:22 pm

Can Tech still add someone or is it over after signing day?

Did all good receivers sign with some school?

Who cares

February 10th, 2010
5:34 pm

It is gt, so other than a few alumni in Georgia and in India who really cares.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

GT GRAD

February 10th, 2010
5:50 pm

High School player rankings are almost a joke! There is really not much difference between a 4 star and most 5 star players.

I would like to know what percentage of these “superior” 5 star recruits actually make it to the NFL……..I imagine we would all be surprised. SOME of these highly touted kids have always been “better, bigger, stronger, faster” than the other high school kids, so everything came easy at the high school level; they did not have to work hard to have success.

People get all excited about these big, fast, athletic players’; what many people forget to evaluate is the other attributes which mean so much in the big picture. For a high school kid to develop into an impact player in college he has to be big, strong, fast, tough, agile, intelligent and he also must have a strong work ethic!! A solid coaching staff (as we have at GT) can take high character motivated kids with the necessary size & skill sets and develop them into solid starters who contribute to winning programs.

I think GT did a fine job with the 2009 & 2010 recruits! We have some VERY good redshirt freshmen from the 2009 class that no one is talking about……………….not yet anyway…………they will shine soon and college football fans will realize GT is a legitimate Top 15 team (as long as Coach PJ is at GT, our football team will remain solid).

The future is bright and all GT fans should be proud of the team!!

Loyal Jacket

February 10th, 2010
5:52 pm

Hey, “The Stinger”–Let me better inform you about the offensive linemen under PJ. The offensive linemen from this past year were recruited by Chan. The 2009 offensive line recruits, all 5 of them, are exactly what PJ is looking for. He DOES want big offensive linemen, but they must be athletic–that is the foremost requirement. But he would rather have BIG athletic offensive linemen than small athletic ones. Only when his offensive line recruits are in the system and starting will you see the real power of this offense. That well might not happen until 2011. Hopefully we will begin to see it in 2010 as some of those redshirt freshment begin to crack the lineup. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. We are seeing history in the making!! How great it is to be a JACKET!!

GT GRAD

February 10th, 2010
5:53 pm

I think one of the “atheletes” from the 2010 class (probably BJ Bostic or maybe Days) will eventually become a WR for GT.

Dan

February 10th, 2010
6:03 pm

Apparently Who Cares cared enough to read the article, think of something witty to say (natually, he struck out), and then post a comment with no meaning.

I hope your mobile home has heat; it’s gonna be a cold night.

J B K

February 10th, 2010
6:33 pm

He Chip.. actually on Scout.com the average star rating increased to 3.0 after getting Louis Young on signing day. Just saying. Keep up the good work.

The Stinger

February 10th, 2010
6:35 pm

To plug-in. I do not doubt CPJ. I think he is an amazing coach. I love how he does things and is an agressive play caller. The forth down tries and all but to make the option offense work it starts with the dive option. If you can not get the three to five yards off of the simple dive then the rest of the offense does not work. Think to our loses we could not consistantly move the ball and what does CPJ call over and over “dive option”. Handing the ball off inside. If that does not work then the rest will not get going because the deffense can stay spread out to the outside and stop the toss or edge option. In order to make gaps you do not cut block you must DRIVE the deffensive tackel out of the way to make the gap for the hole.

To Loyal Jacket. I know CPJ is working with Chans recruits but CPJ has said many times that he goes for the smaller o-lineman because they are more athletic. CPJ has said he has no problem with bigger o-line as long as they can move. My point is o-lineman like that are not coming here beacuse they want to be able to shine in a NFL system. They have the ablity to go high in the draft because of that. Thier talent will not be on display in CPJ system.

I do think that CPJ is doing and will continue to do a great job. He showed us that he is set on winning by changing DC’s after an 11 win season. The only way we will be able to sustain our progress is to be able to pass the ball effectily even if its just a short slant (Navigator). This game is always changing and if you cant do both you will not susceed. I look forward to the future but know the only way you get better is to evolve.

J B K

February 10th, 2010
6:39 pm

Also, yes we missed on WR… but think about it this way.. Former 4 star WR Chris Jackson who went to Alabama two years ago transferred to GT. He’ll be a R-So. this season and will start out at A-back… They say he could still be a WR though, as he is 6-2, 220. Jackson gives the Jackets a receiving threat at either position. So if he does play WR, not a miss at all with this class, but rather a guy who should make an impact right away. You should get Doug to do a story on him before spring practice starts.

Ric Flair

February 10th, 2010
6:39 pm

Abdullah the Butcher would make a great D tackle in Groh’s system. Talk about plugging the gaps.

Just stylin and profilin – woooooooooooooo!

TM

February 10th, 2010
6:46 pm

Trip

February 10th, 2010
6:54 pm

I think all the pieces are falling into place…

O'Leary

February 10th, 2010
7:48 pm

I agree with Stinger. Tech has GOT to get some meat on the O-line or they will never be able to beat SEC or Big Ten teams. It is what it is. This isn’t Navy coach. Iowa showed that last month. Tech also has to get a QB that can throw on a consistent basis. Nesbitt is a machine but he ain’t no QB. For Tech to be competitive, those things most take place or 7-8 win seasons will be the norm. Even Gailey got some meat on the line but not like O’Leary. Did you watch his teams? No one could penetrate there line. UGA lost 3 years in a row to Tech because of there line was huge. What happened? PJ needs to wake up and get with the times. This is ACC and SEC football son. Ok I have said my peace.

The Stinger

February 10th, 2010
8:03 pm

To clear up a little confusion.

I know there is no “dive” play in our play book. I meant the inside handoff or the start of all of our plays. Everyone of our option plays starts with the read of the DT and then the DE depending on the play. I understand the offense. My point was we need a bigger O-line to be able to compete with UGA and IOWA. So we wont get dominated up front and be able to move the ball.

Tide Rising

February 10th, 2010
8:19 pm

Take away a 2 star kicker which brings down the average and the average star rating is probably about 3.25 which is not bad at all. With the offense they run if Tech always averages a 3.25 rating they will be very competitive with a Georgia or anyone else averaging a 3.50 to 3.75. Good job jackets.

Cracker Jacket

February 10th, 2010
8:19 pm

Coach PJ is the most overrated coach in America! His teams have never had a defense…….Ga. Southern, Navy and Tech! Never have and never will! He is about his offense system and that’s all to him! Groh also is overrated and out of touch! Without Gailey’s players..Tech will be lucky to win 7 games! Cry all you want to… but mark it down! Coach PJ will be exposed this year! Little lineman don’t get it done!

Vick=Dog killing Thug

February 10th, 2010
8:40 pm

Be fun to see all the new kids crying and frowning next November when my Dawgs hang another defeat on the bugs….

Oh yahhh 30-24 baby…

A Day Without Tebow is Like a Day Without...

February 10th, 2010
8:40 pm

If I don’t make it in the pro’s I’m gonna re-up with Tech!!! Man I would be AWESOME in that Triple Auction!!!!

Coach Johnsons Paul

February 10th, 2010
8:44 pm

Working on my smugness and some left jabs for those damn Dawg Fans!!!
Truth is I told BayBay Bye Bye after that lousy drop against the Mutts. If you can’t catch the damn ball then don’t come back!!! Yep thems was my words.

The Stinger

February 10th, 2010
9:18 pm

“Triple Auction!!!!” and “Yep thems was my words.”

Wow. Classy bunch.

Do you know why you dont ride threw Athens with your windows rolled down?

They might throw a degree in.

Jason

February 10th, 2010
9:23 pm

Seems folks on here say the ajc is basis…look at channel 2, they had an entire show on UGA recruiting last week. They also have a show before every game… Tech does not. So quit complaining.

The One Who Stings

February 10th, 2010
9:43 pm

I think you ment “thrOUGH”

St Simons Daddy

February 10th, 2010
9:52 pm

It is funny to me how the gtu fans have replaced scu fans as the most delusional in college football. I must admit that scu has had more success against UGA during the last 19years (with out cheating as per the NCAA) than has gtu. I really don’t hate tech, it goes much deeper than that.
THWGT!!!

St. Simons Son

February 10th, 2010
10:30 pm

Grandpa, you old fool! Quit botherin’ these nice folks with that tired old bit about how you hate Tech…no one cares that you didn’t get in and had to waste your life at the Cesspool. Just roll the Hoveround back to your bran muffin and vince dooley sippy cup! Grandma’ll be back from the store soon with your Paper…I won’t tell anyone that you still get it just for the Tech recruiting stories.

GT For You And Me

February 10th, 2010
10:39 pm

St Simons Daddy: We don’t care if you hate GT or not. Just saying…

hugedawgfan

February 10th, 2010
11:21 pm

Just don’t really understand each team’s fan base. I think both UGA and GT did just fine in the recruiting dept. It does not matter about stars, etc. It is how the kid will fit in the team’s scheme and whether the kid can be coached. I actually look forward to seeing how each team measures up and which incoming Froshman can contribute immediately. That will probably be someone from GT since CMR still has not learned his lesson on redshirting. Heard CUM respond to a question about redshirting a kid and he said when they recruit they recruit with the kid playing right away in mind. If he can step in and help immediately then the kid will play. Wow! what a concept.

Loyal Jacket

February 10th, 2010
11:23 pm

To The Stinger–If you are an Insider on the Hive, take a look at the size of the O linemen that have been offered so far by GT for the 2011 class. End of discussion about what PJ wants for size!!

hugedawgfan

February 10th, 2010
11:23 pm

And to call the AJC “basis”? what does that mean, Jason?

Irony....

February 10th, 2010
11:35 pm

Stinger — If you are going to attempt to make use of lame, recycled academic jokes such as……

“Do you know why you dont ride threw Athens with your windows rolled down?”

You might want to use proper grammar and proper word usage — such as ‘through’ versus ‘threw.’

gobees

February 11th, 2010
12:49 am

Although Justin Moore only received two stars (the rating services are a joke), he can outkick all of Tech’s current kickers now, according to his Marist coaches. He had 48 touchbacks on kickoffs; averaged 42 yards punting and kicks it about 50 yards, and while he made 3 of 5 field goals, he has 50 yard range…Marist does not try many field goals. He ranked 12th in a national kicking combine in Las Vegas. If you give him even a 3 star, Tech’s class is top twenty by star rating average, and top three in the ACC. Paul Johnson knows what he’s doing. His only other kicking scholarship out of high school was to Jason Elam to Hawaii…not bad company for Justin. He’ll be a huge asset, and improve the kicking of all of Tech’s kickers. Zenon played at a small school and moved from New Orleans after Katrina. He’s favorably compared to Warrick Dunn….I’ll take that.

GADSDEN DAWG

February 11th, 2010
1:26 am

I HATE GA TECH

Paddy

February 11th, 2010
7:46 am

Stinger, I agree with most of your ideas. The cut block must stay in order for his offense to work. If he went to a dive block system then his offense would never work. Bigger stronger lineman are a must ,I believe but I am not a football coach, so it is speculation on my part. The Iowa game opened my eyes. It is no wonder they are called” Americas strongest football team.” As many of you know, college coaches travel to IU each summer to study their strength and conditioning methods.

the real Old Gold

February 11th, 2010
8:04 am

“The Stinger” is Herchel Walker’s boyfriend undercover.