Tuberville: Recruiting, coaching not a problem at Georgia

Former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, now a college football analyst for ESPN, said bad fortune has had more to do with Georgia's recent struggles than poor coaching or recruiting. (File photo)

Former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, now a college football analyst for ESPN, said bad fortune has had more to do with Georgia's recent struggles than poor coaching or recruiting. (File photo)

Tommy Tuberville coached and recruited against Georgia for 10 years while at Auburn. He thinks bad luck has had more to do with the Bulldogs’ recent struggle than poor recruiting or coaching.

“A lot of times guys don’t pan out, guys that have four or five stars; that happens to everybody,” said Tuberville, who is a college football analyst for ESPN after resigning from Auburn last year. “And I’m not saying that’s what happened. But I know a lot of times you bring those guys in there that are supposed to be war daddies and they never materialize.”

Tuberville said losing Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno and Asher Allen early to the NFL draft had more to do with the Bulldogs getting blown out by Florida last week than anything. Especially when Florida was able to get back Tim Tebow, Brandon Spikes and Jermaine Cunningham for their senior seasons.

“You’ve got to prepare each team three and four years in advance and that takes a lot of luck,” Tuberville said. “Florida got Tebow and Spikes and some other guys to come back; Georgia loses Stafford and Moreno and Allen. A lot of it is luck.

“It’s going to be a transition year for Florida next year. We’ll have to see how they do.”

It is Moreno, he said, that the Bulldogs miss most.

“The one thing about Mark’s teams over the years, he’s always had a great running back. They’ve always been able to run the ball,” Tuberville said. “I don’t think there’s any doubt losing Stafford was obviously big. But I think the biggest loss for them was Knowshon Moreno.

“It’s hard to lose a quarterback and it’s hard to lose a running back to graduation or coming out early. But when you lose them both in the same year, it really puts you in a tough spot. Your quarterback who hasn’t played much doesn’t have the luxury of a running game to keep him out of trouble. And in the passing game, when you have a young running back and you have an experienced quarterback, your quarterback can throw the ball down the field and take the pressure off the running back.”

Tuberville referred to two different times he was on opposite ends of that equation. In 2000, Auburn won the SEC Western Division and had its entire offense coming back. Or so he thought. Then tailback Rudi Johnson, fullback Heath Evans and wide receiver Ronney Daniels all turned pro early. The Tigers went 7-4 in 2001.

Then there was 2004, when Auburn went 13-0.

“I had no idea we’d get [running backs] Ronnie [Brown] AND Carnell [Williams] back,” he said. “That was lucky.”

Meanwhile, Tuberville said Georgia’s defensive coaching and philosophies are not the problem.

“Evaluating Georgia’s team this year – and make sure you tell them I’m not giving advice – the schemes are fine. Willie is fine,” he said. “It’s really not any different than what everybody else is running. I know early in the season turnovers were killing them. You get your back up against the wall, the ‘Steel Curtain’ can’t keep ‘em out of the end zone.

“I think it’s just been a combination of things this year: Can’t control the running game to the quarterback making mistakes to the defense staying out on the field. [Defensive coordinator] Willie [Martinez] has always been a technique coach who taught fundamentals and all that, not real aggressive, you know, forcing the hand of the offense. When you do that the turnovers will get you and mount up on you and sooner or later that bend-but-don’t-break will break.”

Tuberville said Georgia’s recruiting has been more than adequate.

“We always thought if we could get 15 players that could contribute out of the 20 to 25 we’d sign, that’d be a good recruiting class,” he said. “They didn’t have to be great players, just good SEC players. Then you could win a lot of football games. Some years, you’d get 20 or 22 and that’s going to be a group that’s going to turn into something. But you’re always going to make some mistakes.”

185 comments Add your comment

Ali Allah Ackbar

November 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm

All this still means another beatdown coming the Dawgs way after Thanksgiving. Please keep Willie around next year, all the Mutts opponents will be thrilled.

shannon1776

November 3rd, 2009
2:32 pm

Would Tuberville be interested in a 2 year deal to be our DC and then he can leave for a new HC job??????

Where's my crack pipe?

November 3rd, 2009
2:36 pm

Bull$hit…….if there is a “trackable stat” for a Defense holding opponents to 3 & out I bet my last piece of crack that GA is last. Willie is the worst and anybody who cant see that doesnt have a clue.

Saint Simons

November 3rd, 2009
2:36 pm

41-17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uga plays in Carpets of Dalton bowl!!!!!!!!!!

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm

Great philosophy there Tub. You didn’t mention what happened last year when Stafford, Moreno and Allen were still playing at Georgia. Or the year before that. Saban coming into near instant success at Alabama kind of turns your idea on it’s head. It’s Bullshat. Richt and his coaches have been the problem for 3 years now. I’ve never called for their firing and won’t start here but it’s time for then to at least look like they are doing something, anything to get the program on track yet, 3 years running now the decline continues.

CHARLOTTE DAWG

November 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm

Ali Allah Ackbar,

Something tells me you don’t even celebrate Thanksgiving.

firemarkricht.net

November 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm

Losing Moreno, Stafford, and Allen caused us to get blown out this year? HA!

We were blown out last year, too! Even worse.

Okay Tuberville, we get it. You don’t want Richt’s job.

And way to stand by your man Martinez. If you like him so much, you can have him next time you’re coaching.

NCDAWG

November 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm

Tuberville is just being nice…hopefully to his future employer

Catfish Suppa

November 3rd, 2009
2:42 pm

anyone ever notice how cute CPJ is??

Another Dawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:43 pm

Tubberville can rest assured he has a spot available as Georgia’s defensive coordinator if he’d like it.

GIVE ME A BREAK

November 3rd, 2009
2:44 pm

He’s not defending Richt, he’s defending the all powerful SEC. GET LOST.

Just Stop!

November 3rd, 2009
2:44 pm

Saint Simons,

I hope you die.

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm

NCDAWG….I for one hope to hell he isn’t our future coach …..He’s as bad as Richt. Throwing out any handy excuse for a bad UGA team to help his prop up his old buddy MR. Excuses and a buck fitty will get you a cup of coffee

southga

November 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm

ARdawg, you’re right. I know we had the injuries last year, but in the 10 wins uga had, they had to STRUGGLE to beat Kentucky, USC, Vandy, Tennessee, and a bad Auburn team, and those tight wins were with Stafford and Moreno!!!!!

Vanderbilt is next

November 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm

Looks like the Gators are getting the better players in the end. Mr. Tuberville, UGA could have had all those players and they still don’t beat Florida on Saturday, maybe they score 3 more points but who knows. Cox put the the ball in the endzone twice, Stafford once.

Hank

November 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm

Tubbs is a really good coach. I know Urban Meyer has a lot of respect for him as he beat UF twice while a heavy underdog. It’s strange that a punk like Kiffen has a head coaching job and Tubberville is doing TV work.

My thoughts....

November 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm

BBQ Boys REDUX!!!!!!!!

Tom

November 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm

Yeah kind of lame excuses. In 2004 when Auburn went undefeated, the next year we lost Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams and Carlos Rogers, all first round NFL draft picks. Auburn still went 9-3 the following year. We lost the first game of the year in Brandon Cox’s first start to GT, then lost @ LSU in overtime when we missed 5 field goals. Lost 3rd game to Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl. Point is, lost more talent then UGA did but still managed a solid season.

Tubberville Truth

November 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm

Right on firemarkricht.net!!! Exactly what I was thinking about last year’s BLOW OUT!

Luck???!!! Tuberville is an idiot. Oh wait, that means Damon Evan’s will hire him.

joe

November 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm

“anyone ever notice how cute CPJ is??”

Since when did a fat tub of lard start being cute.

NCDAWG

November 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm

ARdawg….would you rather have Tuberville or Willie as the DC given a choice?

10_ac

November 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm

Predictions – UT wins out and goes to the Peach Bowl.

Jim Jones

November 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm

Thats a good boy Tubberville “Drink the Kool-Aid”

ReptilesRule

November 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm

The REAL problem is that with 4 and 5 star recruits, you STILL have to develop them properly, both physically and mentally. Alot of schools just throw them out there and expect them to perform. Doesn’t work that way for most…

xl.dawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm

Alright all you morons enough is enough. Coaching is not the problem. Tubberville is right and we need to see that for what it is. If you really watched the game, saw it from section 233, our defense played well and our offense gave the game away just like three other times this year. Cox had to play this year or we would not get another recruit from Charlotte, ever! The o-line has been beat up and thin because of injury and attrition. All this media and information never went out went CVD was up and down in ‘77,’78,’79! Then the original version of Tebow came to UGA and we won 3 SECs and should have won two national championships. Give it a rest and let these young men play hard for themselves not for you and your office pride.

RxDawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm

Good article. A lot of truth in it that the woe is me bloggers will surely write off. But honestly folks, we’ve had one bad season now in 9 years under Richt. Try to at least keep that in perspective.

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:52 pm

I’ve long been convinced that UGA has top tier talent and has for all of this decade. Joe Cox is a mediocre SEC caliber QB “talent-wise” and he was #2 on the depth chart behind Stafford as an example. If Cox had the coaching some of these other mediocre QBs have he would look like a superstar. Let’s face it Dawg fans, the wheels have fell completely off of our wagon. We got the recruits, as uncoached and indisciplined as they are, we still got them.

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:54 pm

NCDAWG….Tub without question when compared to WM as a DC, but you are just fantasizing, Tub wouldn’t even consider such a move

Reality Check

November 3rd, 2009
2:54 pm

Have you peopple realized yet that the only reason the ‘Coaching Staff unanimously chose Cox to remain QB’ is because they only care about the next 4 games? They don’t care about the future of Georgia football, like looking ahead to next season Here me out on this one. The staff knows that Cox DOES give Georgia the best chance of winning this year (I agree), which gives the assistants the best chance of keeping their jobs for next season. BUT THE BEST thing for UGA football is to look ahead to next season and start Murray NOW. We’re going to suck as bad next season because once again we will have a QB with no experience.

Lou Vales

November 3rd, 2009
2:55 pm

The next time a former coach criticizes a coach will be the FIRST TIME. It is the “Code of the Fraternity”

We've Been Neutered

November 3rd, 2009
2:57 pm

RXDawg, Sadly a “bad season” to Florida is one that does not entail a National Championship Game. True?

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:57 pm

Enter your comments here

The Sky Isn't Falling

November 3rd, 2009
2:59 pm

From the 2005 signing class, Owen’s and Weston’s class, 8 recruits either did not get in, had medical issues or were kicked out. This a pattern that needs to be broken. However, there is also a need for some new blood in the coaching ranks. This was a good staff to start the Richt era off (no HC experience) but it is time to bring in some youth.

jwilli120

November 3rd, 2009
2:59 pm

WE HAVE BEEN SCHLEBROCKED!!!!! WOUSIE, WOUSIE, WOO, WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES IN HIS 9YRS, DEFINATELY NOT GOOD LUCK
BUT WOUSIE, WOUSIE, WOO, WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawg

November 3rd, 2009
2:59 pm

As always, the Nerds can’t stay off our blogs. Who do you geeks play in your sucky conference? NO ONE. If you did, only having one loss right now, you’d be in contention for the nat’l championship. Ain’t gonna happen in the crappy ACC! ANY team would be 7-1 if they had an ACC schedule! And, you brag about your win over Vandy, the worst team in the SEC?? They held their own with you until the fourth quarter. Hell, even the Dawgs put them away. LAUGHABLE, moron. When you play, and beat, a decent team–then you can run your nerd mouth.

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:00 pm

Reality Check….excellent point. If they don’t win the last 4 (2 of 4 is more reality) They see that writing on the wall and won’t be here anyway. You are right, They could care less about the future

cantondawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:00 pm

Everyone mentions losing Stafford, Moreno and Allen..Losing Brannon Southerland and Mohammed Massaquoi is huge too. Those guys were 4 years starters. Southerland was probrably the best fullback UGA has ever had

Reality Check

November 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm

@ xl.dawg:

You are as blindly loyal to Richt as he is to his staff. People like you are 1 percenters: flat-out idiots who will never think anything is wrong with Georgia football. Even when our program has been run into the dirt – we are clearly one of the worst teams in the SEC this year – you see the glass 1% full.

The Truth

November 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm

GA Tech Lies and Cheats and Everyone knows it. I’m glad Georgia does not Lie or Cheat like Ga Tech. I can deal with a disappointing year as long as we keep our integrity.

rick

November 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm

Paul in RDU

November 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm

I have to agree with Lou Vales on this one – Tuberville is just spouting pablum

Dawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:03 pm

I agree with Reality Check. We aren’t doing ANYTHING to prepare for next year. This season has sucked already, so why not just start getting ready for next year? That’s the mistake we made last year… we didn’t get any QB or RB ready to start this season, and we see where we are at this point. I say chalk this season up to a suck hole one, put in Murray and some others, and let them have some playing time before next season so we aren’t in the same position in 2010. As far as coaching, I think Mark Bradley had a good point. We could have the same record in Mark Richt’s 9th season as TN will have in Kiffin’s first. Doesn’t that say a lot? Chances are it’s not going to be better, only worse, especially with Martinez and Bobo. I never understood hiring Bobo anyway… he was mediocre as a QB so we hire him as a QB coach? What next, Martrez Milner (aka Brick Hands) as tight end coach?

Party at Joe Cox's to watch the SEC Title Game

November 3rd, 2009
3:04 pm

Joe Cox formally invites you to a party to watch the SEC Title Game
December 5, 2009
5 P.M.
4-4 Multiple Penalties Lane – Athens, Ga 30605
BYOB

georgiadawg1970

November 3rd, 2009
3:07 pm

Tommy,

How can you say losing Stafford and Moreno caused us to get blown out this. We got blown out last year and they were here.

ARdawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:07 pm

Paul in RDU
Tubbs is being paid by ESPN right now. He didn’t throw his old buddy CMR under the bus but, reading between the lines he sees the truth and not mentioning it. CMR has lost his way and ability of keeping the Georgia program together. We’re just above Vandy in the conference and if it were last year, we’d be dead last

turd hater

November 3rd, 2009
3:08 pm

how about we just move to the crappiest conference in the usa so we can be national champs everyyear like the ACC. I have never seen so many highschool football teams in one conference. No wonder why Georgia Tech has only lost one game this year, I wish we could play a bunch over powder puffs all year. Is there a team above 500 in that conference beside Miami and Virginia tech which sucks and cant beat anybody outside the Acc

Upstate Dawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm

Is Tub a defensive coach ?

Chris

November 3rd, 2009
3:13 pm

“Party at Joe Cox’s to watch the SEC Title Game” what’s it like being a fat slob with no girlfriend who lives with his mom? Must suck. My guess is you look like that fat lard CPJ. Enjoy it while you can, UGA will be back in no time. Tech has 7 down years and then one decent year while UGA has 7 awesome years with one down year.

Simply a dawg

November 3rd, 2009
3:14 pm

Volmania21

November 3rd, 2009
3:15 pm

Awwww Hank, are you sooo sad the VOLS destroyed your little puppy dogs that you can’t help yourself and call CLK a punk. I bet you wish he was your coach. Haters will always hate. Keep hatin and we will beat you again next year!!! LOL GO BIG ORANGE!!!