Officially Vols not aware of OSU player’s intention to transfer

UPDATED WITH LINKS TO ALL THE LATEST REPORTS . . .

No doubt you’ve heard by now that Jamal Mosley, a tight end at Oklahoma State who was supposed to start against Georgia on Saturday, has left Stillwater “for personal reasons.” Slowly information has emerged that Mosley had been accused of rape by a fellow student. The latest news in this ongoing saga is that he’s bound for Tennessee, as our own Larry Hartstein reported here.

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Now I’ve taken my share of shots at the Vols’ new coach, Lane Kiffin, who hasn’t exactly expended a lot of energy avoiding controversy since his arrival in Knoxville. But I’m going to have to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

While Mosley told the Oklahoma State student newspaper, The Daily O’Collegian, he intends to transfer to Tennessee, that doesn’t necessarily mean the Vols are going to take him. And if the rape charges stick — it’s unclear at this moment what’s going to happen with that — I can pretty much guarantee you they won’t.

The Knoxville News-Sentinel, citing a “source close to the situation,” said Mosley could be visiting Tennessee as early as tomorrow. I don’t have such a source. But I called UT associate AD Bud Ford, one of best publicists in the SEC and a guy I’ve known for years, to find out what if anything the Vols knew about this whole thing. For starters, Ford knew nothing, but he was headed directly to the Office of Complaince to find out what he could.

NCAA rules, you see, are very specific regarding transfers from one D-1 school to another. Number one, you can’t even talk to a scholarship player at another school unless he has filed the proper transfer-request paperwork with your institution. And then you can’t talk about said transfer, other than to confirm you’re recruiting him, until that guy is actually enrolled in your school. So who knows when we might get anything resembling official word.

That said, if Kiffin has proven anything it’s that he’s not afraid to stand up to the heat of controversy. Just this year we’ve watched with fascination as he signed a player convicted of sexual assault as a 13-year-old, Daniel Hood, stole a recruit out from under Florida’s nose in Nu’Keese Richardson then accused the Gators of cheating, followed that up by insulting the residents of Pahokee, Fla., where Richardson is from, and signed the nation’s No. 1 prospect in tailback Bryce Brown despite numerous questions surrounding Brown’s relationship with am “adviser” who sold updates on his website.

As for Mosley, the Memphis resident is from all accounts a pretty good player. The 6-foot-4, 254-pounder had 5 catches for 57 yards as a true freshman last year and was slated to start this season. I guess it depends on how much trouble Kiffin thinks he’s worth.

Your thoughts?

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Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 3rd, 2009
4:02 pm

Not surprised that he would be interested in UT. Would be surprised if UT would be interested in him. Actions, like elections, have consequences. FCS school is where he should go to clean up his act. Smaller school = more supervision (in theory of course). This is not his first brush with the law, the young man needs to mature

Hairofthedawg

September 3rd, 2009
4:29 pm

Does anyone remeber Jason Respect, who got in trouble while a recruit when visiting at UF? The Dawgs and Gators both wanated him to sign with them and were the fore runners but stopped recruiting him when the trouble surfaced. It was UT that then pursued him and got him to play for them. Sound familar?

GeoffDawg

September 3rd, 2009
4:45 pm

Don’t forget about Moody. UT had some interest in him before he ended up at JC.

Chip Towers

September 3rd, 2009
4:45 pm

Hairofthedawg: Yes, I remember Jason Respert well. I was covering Georgia at the time. He went on to have a good career for the Vols and never got into any more trouble as far as I can tell.

Ryno

September 3rd, 2009
5:32 pm

Correct, Chip. Respert was never in any trouble at UT. In the Mosley case, there is evidence that the trouble might stem from an interracial relationship with the daughter of an OSU booster. No facts so far, just things out there.

DublDawg

September 3rd, 2009
5:53 pm

Maybe Kiffin can get Willie A. Williams into a diversion program in Gwinnett County and sign him as well.

The Dark Knight had his eyes and mouth closed in his mugshot, you can barely tell what he looks like. He did, however, show his school spirit for Union College, he has a UC shirt on in the shot.

http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com/asp/ActiveW.asp

Robert

September 3rd, 2009
6:00 pm

Tennessee is really going down the wrong road. Sure, maybe the kid didn’t rape someone, but he is still of questionable character. We may not know the details (yet), but regardless of what happened, there were obviously some shady happenings. How many kids of questionable character does that make for UT this year? Tennessee will take anyone, unless prison takes them first.

BugKiller

September 3rd, 2009
6:06 pm

Don’t forget, he insulted Marlon Brown’s grandmother, saying she didn’t have his best interests at heart by pushing him towards Georgia.

Lame is going to be fired by the end of the year as Rocky Flop fails to win more than 4 games.

Rocky flop

September 3rd, 2009
6:52 pm

TN is the college verision of the NFL Raiders – go vols! ha

TampaGator

September 3rd, 2009
7:24 pm

Jason Respert had a recruiting visit to Florida, tried to convince every other recruit in Gainesville that weekend to commit to the Vols (telling everyone he never intended to come to Florida but only came to recruit players for the Vols), and then got into deep “do” with additional “lack of values” behavior. Even though he never got into trouble again, his behavior in Gainesville that weekend told you all you wanted to know about him. He was, while on the Florida campus, a lot like Willie Williams, the kid who went to Miami and is now in an Atlanta area jail. Trying to win at all costs, Mr. Kiffin, will get you into a lot of trouble. Ask the former Miami coach.

John

September 3rd, 2009
8:25 pm

Such hatred for Kiffin, yet it has been Alabama and Florida players who have been getting arrested this year, right? No Vol arrests.

Ryno

September 3rd, 2009
8:27 pm

“Even though he never got into trouble again, his behavior in Gainesville that weekend told you all you wanted to know about him.”
Just about the dumbest of many dumb statements you could make Tampa.
Sounds like if he never got into trouble again, he might have learned a lesson and made sure to not make that mistake…or any similar mistake again. In fairness, you might just be used to the repeat offender program so prevalent in Gainesville. I apologize.

tenn.DAWG

September 3rd, 2009
10:33 pm

This guy just didn’t show up on utk’s doorstep.He had to have been contacted and told that utk was interested.Kiffin is not only prostituting himself,but the whole tenn.program.I wonder what Pat Summit and Bruce Pearl think. I bet the General is turning in his grave.

VanDSIRROM

September 3rd, 2009
11:16 pm

We are all know for the ‘company’ we keep.

BillnBham

September 3rd, 2009
11:18 pm

Lame Kitten does seem to be looking to grab talented criminal-types. That loud-mouthed brash (classless immature poorly-socialized idiot) type of coach seems to attract the sort of trash-talking thug-person who’d rape or rob someone at gunpoint. Whereas some coaches have stuck with recruits of borderline academics (Tommy Tuberville comes to mind), it seems Lame hangs in there with those of borderline moral standards (or even borderline sociopathy or borderline personality disorder.) Wouldn’t it seem wiser to wait to give a kid a scholarship after being found “Not guilty”? Of course, that makes the jury verdict more exciting if you follow Viles recruiting. Is it a coincidence that the “jumpsuits” of most prison systems use Volunteer Orange to identify their players, too?

RedKneckerson

September 4th, 2009
6:08 am

You guys are dumb. First of all the OSU player can say whatever he likes, doesn’t mean UY is the pursuer.Secondly, they have at least 3 TE’s that can more than handle the position and they are younger. Also, some of you chastised Kiffin for offering Eric Berry’s brother. Fact is and was Kiffin never offered him because everyone kows that is illegal. Some of these “reporters” run with anything out there and try to discredit anyone in their way. DO some fact checks as Chip attemted to do with this ariticle. Also, the Brown issue was NEVER about UT. They got him all fair and square. No promblem with him thus far. Daniel Hood, ok he was charged with a crime ( a major one) but he was 13. Are you telling me that these “reporters” actually went back and looked at all the facts surrounding that case, or rather they just saw rape, Tennessee, Kiffin, and came to a conclusion that would generate a couple more papers sold or a few more eyes online.By the way Chip, it is H.D. “Bud” Ford to you.

S.L.

September 4th, 2009
7:59 am

The first post I read stated: “Not surprised that he would be interested in UT. Would be surprised if UT would be interested in him. Actions, like elections, have consequences.”

And your point is?
Some people have a never ending source of venom. I wonder if this is a stab at the President of the U.S.A……. Damn, can’t you at least stick to the issue at hand!

Be-little, BeBOLD

September 4th, 2009
8:18 am

Sure are some UT haters on this blog . . . and that only means you are worried that Kiffin is a BIG threat to take the Vols to the top . . . bad-mouthing the man, the institution or the players isn’t going to change anything. Give the guy credit, he is what he is, regardless of your opinions and he just may be your BIGGEST HEADACHE for years to come. So, bad-mouth him while you still can . . . he doesn’t mind it a bit . . . just more VOLS in the HEADLINES for recruits to see.

Big ED

September 4th, 2009
1:27 pm

Hairofthedawg,

The Jason Respert situation is different. Florida Officals told him they would make the charge go away if he signed with them and he told them he had done nothing wrong. This really soured his relationship with UF to say the least. UGA did not want to take any chances so they backed off of him and I don’t blame them for that. So those are the reasons he ended up at UT. Don’t throw around acusations without facts. Respert is a good person and is now a very good high school coach in the Middle GA Area.

Chuck Uga

September 4th, 2009
10:54 pm

Kiffin will take this guy. He is desperate. Regardless, he will not succeed at UT and will be gone within 5 years.

Nilo Silvan

September 5th, 2009
12:34 am

The reason this player has interest in UT is because of Orgeron. Mosley originally committed to Coach O and Ole Miss before Orgeron was fired. That is the connection.

Dawgs Drool!

September 5th, 2009
10:28 am

The following was posted by someone that personally knows the family.

Coach Duron Sutton is a long time great friend; he sent Laron Harris to UT but Laron didn’t work out, making him go to Ut instead of Auburn. Duron has been keeping me abreast of the rather rapid ever changing situation regarding Jamal. Jamal’s mother rented from me for many years; she was rare, in Memphis, for a renter, in that she paid her rent on time. Jamal’s dad is in the service but rarely home or in the conversation, thus Mrs. Mosley has been raising Jamal. Jamal chose Ok. State over OleMIss and numerous other Div 1A programs. He was slated to start for OKla State. Duron says that Jamal got involved with the wrong crowd at Okla State; a white lady, the daughter of one of Okla State’s biggest boosters, stalked, fell in love, with Jamal, an AA, much to the consternation of her father. Jamal saved her numerous text messages seeking sex, etc. Jamal is not only a good athlete, he’s a good person, according to not only Coach Sutton, but ALL the Okla State coaches. They did not want Jamal to leave, but considering the booster’s influence, the AD had no choice. Mrs. Mosley left Stillwater today, to sleep over in Memphis tonight, and then drive to Knoxville tomorrow. Coach Sutton has had to fight off Auburn,in particular, because of Trooper Taylor, and several other SEC programs. Duron let it be known with all the schools that a scholarship offer would have to be on the table or there was no reason to talk. He convinced Jamal that because of Kiffin and Orgeron, UT was the best program for him. Duron Sutton is a highly respected, high character, coach and individual. He would NOT go out on the line for Jamal unless he was convinced that Jamal was a good kid; the Okla State coaches feel the same way. IF, IF, everything goes as expected tomorrow, Jamal will be a Tennessee Vol and I’m sure all us Vol fans will thank the day that the little white chick’s dad at Okla State did not like his daughter going with an awful Black guy so that Okla State had to cut Jamal loose.

Dawgs Drool!

September 5th, 2009
10:31 am

Chuck Uga

September 4th, 2009
10:54 pm
Kiffin will take this guy. He is desperate. Regardless, he will not succeed at UT and will be gone within 5 years.

Gotta love MORONS like you! I guess you’ll be saying these same things after the Vols kick your ball licking “puppies” up and down the field these next 5 years!

RolltideRoll

September 6th, 2009
9:56 am

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RolltideRoll

September 6th, 2009
9:59 am

Dawgs Drool, that explination sounds about right. I know nothing of this young man, but there are a few players on the roster at OSU who are from here in the Houston area and they’re saying he got a raw deal. This sounds familiar to a situation that happened in Georgia to another young man.

Paul The Vol

September 6th, 2009
11:06 am

Hello Georgia fans? Any reaction? Any slams on Lane Kiffin? Hello? Not much comment lately.

Troy Taylor

September 6th, 2009
3:11 pm

If the coaching staff at Ok St still believe this young man is worth keeping and so does his high school coach then why shouldn’t Kiffin at least talk to the man. I totally trust the staff and if they do take him I am sure its because they believe in him
The real question is wheather he is worth giving a scolly too. He will be sitting out a year and then how long can he be a help to the VOLS?

Jeff

September 6th, 2009
3:41 pm

Oh boy. It’ll be interesting to see how desperate Kitten really is.

jw

September 6th, 2009
6:57 pm

I saw the same info that dawgs drool posted, earlier in the week. My first thoughts were that Jamal got a bad deal and I hoped he got another gig. Later this week it has come out that he was accused of raping another AA girl in MARCH!! She was very upset and confused and wound up not pressing charges because she did not want him to looose his scholly. I think he eve manipulated her into dating him for 2 more months to help his case after the fact if she later changed her mind. Date rape is a tricky thing. What I am hearing is he changes when he drinks, he date raped BOTH of these girls that he DATED. YES he DATED them, but he changes when alcholol is involved, sweet quit Jamal changes and gets agressive and does not HEAR the word NO. He broke the AA girls zipper and pinned her arms over her head. Does that sound like a fun date to you?? I get a little tired of people making excuses for bad behaviour, just because the girl as on a DATE. There is such a thing as DATE RAPE.

Fat Phil

September 7th, 2009
12:13 pm

You UGA loudmouths are too funny. You take any morsel of potential negativity and act like Lane Kiffin is the reincarnation of Satan. The OK State player can say anything….he could say NASA wants him to become an astronaut and you all would somehow try to link Kiffin to that. Fact is, UT is going to kick UGA’s little butt all over the turf at Neyland Stadium and there is not a darn thing you can do about it. You all better be worried about Visor Boy next Saturday. You can bet he will have his players jacked up for UGA even though they barely beat NC State. By the way, how did that beatdown of OK State go last week?

Gator

September 7th, 2009
4:35 pm

Maybe you had better worry about your own problems there fat boy. You think you are funny by ragging the Uga fans after a loss? We will see who is laughing in two weeks.

TD

September 9th, 2009
6:36 am

Not only does he sound like a fit for Tennessee, he’d fit Florida or Alabama as well. I’m hoping UGA has turned that corner staying away from these type of players.

Roderick Howard

September 9th, 2009
9:16 pm

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Roderick Howard

September 9th, 2009
9:18 pm

you people are crazy.i played football with jamal sice high school,everyone knows when girls cant get superstars they try and get payback or trap them.theres no way he did this.do u think dez bryant begging for girls.no.its ok ,tennessee’s going to get agreat player and kid

Flo-Ri-Duh!

September 10th, 2009
11:41 am

The Lame One is at it again.

earl

July 19th, 2010
11:41 pm

thank you big ed for your comments about my nephew. you know a lot of people have the tendencies to be anal in a lot of aspects of their miserable lives, like the people of the florida gator. if you were not there to know exactly what happened you should keep your opinions to your self.