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	<title>Comments on: Few Georgia &#8217;stars&#8217; in newly revamped ESPNU 150 rankings</title>
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		<title>By: Flo-Ri-Duh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flo-Ri-Duh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all missed the boat. Florida is a powerhouse because of their DEFENSE ... not Tebow. Coach Strong is the heart and soul of the defense and he is the reason Florida gets great commits on defense every year. My connection tells me that Strong is being considered as the NEXT head coach at Notre Dame - not Meyer. Urban Meyer knows Strong is going to be offered a major position as a head coach soon and that is why he locked in to a six year deal NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all missed the boat. Florida is a powerhouse because of their DEFENSE &#8230; not Tebow. Coach Strong is the heart and soul of the defense and he is the reason Florida gets great commits on defense every year. My connection tells me that Strong is being considered as the NEXT head coach at Notre Dame &#8211; not Meyer. Urban Meyer knows Strong is going to be offered a major position as a head coach soon and that is why he locked in to a six year deal NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawg's History 101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawg's History 101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posting..Something to consider. As a fomer d1-aa, player, the big men win and lose games. Few people understand that concept, and just brush off the comment, of winning the game at the line of scrimage. If Florida, now cursed with the #1 ranking, lost the same depth chart players that Georgia lost last year, they would have a similary season. Few people remember what happened the year after they won their first NC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posting..Something to consider. As a fomer d1-aa, player, the big men win and lose games. Few people understand that concept, and just brush off the comment, of winning the game at the line of scrimage. If Florida, now cursed with the #1 ranking, lost the same depth chart players that Georgia lost last year, they would have a similary season. Few people remember what happened the year after they won their first NC</p>
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		<title>By: Something to consider...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Something to consider...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so funny how everyone rates how good or bad a team will be based on a couple of star skill players. Star players can be difference makers in big games, but if there isn&#039;t a supporting cast of &quot;workmen&quot; around them then the team still won&#039;t do well.

The reason most pre-season polls end up being off is because they simply judge teams based on star power alone. 

People who think Florida would be or will be a bad team without Tebow are just as silly as people who think Georgia won&#039;t be any good this year without Stafford and Moreno. 

Look at Bama&#039;s JPW last year he looked all world at times, why? Because he had one of the most dominant o-lines in the country. 

Imagine if Jay Cutler had played for UF, UGA, Tenn, Bama of Aub instead of Vandy where he had little supporting cast?

Stars are nice but championships start in the trenches.

The recipie for championship teams is this:

1. Dominant Defensive line that can disrupt the offensive backfield. If the line is strong and can get pressure the LBs and Secondary will flourish

2. Dominant o-line that can move the pile, protect the qb and give him time to go through his progressions

3. A solid QB that can protect the ball and play mistake free ball. Doesn&#039;t have to be a superstar, although it&#039;s a definite plus if he is, it&#039;s not a requirement.

4. A balanced offensive attack that can move the chains and keep defenses guessing. Also need to be able to do both as some teams will be better at against the run and others against the pass, and a balanced attack gives a team the ability to exploit the defense&#039;s weakness.

5. Team chemistry, all units playing as one and not as individuals.

Look at the last 10 national champions and judge them based off that criteria and you&#039;ll find they all have those things, and the teams that fell short, fell short somewhere on that list. 

Also look at who QB&#039;d the National Champions from 08-98 and then think about each team as a whole: Only 4 QBs on this list could truly be considered stars - Tebow, Young, Leinart, &amp; Weinke

2008 - UF - Tebow
2007 - LSU - Matt Flynn
2006 - UF - Chris Leak
2005 - Tex - Vince Young
2004 - USC - Matt Leinart
2003 - LSU - Matt Mauck
2002 - OSU - Craig Krenzel
2001 - Miami - Ken Dorsey
2000 - Okl - Josh Heupel
1999 - FSU - Chris Weinke
1998 - Tenn - Tee Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so funny how everyone rates how good or bad a team will be based on a couple of star skill players. Star players can be difference makers in big games, but if there isn&#8217;t a supporting cast of &#8220;workmen&#8221; around them then the team still won&#8217;t do well.</p>
<p>The reason most pre-season polls end up being off is because they simply judge teams based on star power alone. </p>
<p>People who think Florida would be or will be a bad team without Tebow are just as silly as people who think Georgia won&#8217;t be any good this year without Stafford and Moreno. </p>
<p>Look at Bama&#8217;s JPW last year he looked all world at times, why? Because he had one of the most dominant o-lines in the country. </p>
<p>Imagine if Jay Cutler had played for UF, UGA, Tenn, Bama of Aub instead of Vandy where he had little supporting cast?</p>
<p>Stars are nice but championships start in the trenches.</p>
<p>The recipie for championship teams is this:</p>
<p>1. Dominant Defensive line that can disrupt the offensive backfield. If the line is strong and can get pressure the LBs and Secondary will flourish</p>
<p>2. Dominant o-line that can move the pile, protect the qb and give him time to go through his progressions</p>
<p>3. A solid QB that can protect the ball and play mistake free ball. Doesn&#8217;t have to be a superstar, although it&#8217;s a definite plus if he is, it&#8217;s not a requirement.</p>
<p>4. A balanced offensive attack that can move the chains and keep defenses guessing. Also need to be able to do both as some teams will be better at against the run and others against the pass, and a balanced attack gives a team the ability to exploit the defense&#8217;s weakness.</p>
<p>5. Team chemistry, all units playing as one and not as individuals.</p>
<p>Look at the last 10 national champions and judge them based off that criteria and you&#8217;ll find they all have those things, and the teams that fell short, fell short somewhere on that list. </p>
<p>Also look at who QB&#8217;d the National Champions from 08-98 and then think about each team as a whole: Only 4 QBs on this list could truly be considered stars &#8211; Tebow, Young, Leinart, &amp; Weinke</p>
<p>2008 &#8211; UF &#8211; Tebow<br />
2007 &#8211; LSU &#8211; Matt Flynn<br />
2006 &#8211; UF &#8211; Chris Leak<br />
2005 &#8211; Tex &#8211; Vince Young<br />
2004 &#8211; USC &#8211; Matt Leinart<br />
2003 &#8211; LSU &#8211; Matt Mauck<br />
2002 &#8211; OSU &#8211; Craig Krenzel<br />
2001 &#8211; Miami &#8211; Ken Dorsey<br />
2000 &#8211; Okl &#8211; Josh Heupel<br />
1999 &#8211; FSU &#8211; Chris Weinke<br />
1998 &#8211; Tenn &#8211; Tee Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Einstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Einstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chip for a good article.  You and Bradley are correct...Sterling Boyd was supposed to be our next &quot;Herschel&quot;.  And, how could Odel Collins miss?  Ratings are fun to banter during the off-season; however, the true ratings come 4 years later.  Give me a 3 star any day over a 5 star.  Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chip for a good article.  You and Bradley are correct&#8230;Sterling Boyd was supposed to be our next &#8220;Herschel&#8221;.  And, how could Odel Collins miss?  Ratings are fun to banter during the off-season; however, the true ratings come 4 years later.  Give me a 3 star any day over a 5 star.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Bull Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bull Gator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd and ExleyDAWG...John Brantley holds the all-time record for touchdowns by a high school player in the state of FL.  He was heavily recruited by every major college program, and was initially committed to Texas before he eventually signed with UF.  The fact that he will have sat for 3 years while Tebow starred is only going to help the transition.  When he does take over he will have complete command of the offense, along with the respect of his teammates.  Yes Tim Tebow will go down as the greatest college player ever, but as TampaGator points out, Urban did win a BCS title in &#039;06 when Chris Leak, who Johnny Brantly more resembles, was the starting QB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd and ExleyDAWG&#8230;John Brantley holds the all-time record for touchdowns by a high school player in the state of FL.  He was heavily recruited by every major college program, and was initially committed to Texas before he eventually signed with UF.  The fact that he will have sat for 3 years while Tebow starred is only going to help the transition.  When he does take over he will have complete command of the offense, along with the respect of his teammates.  Yes Tim Tebow will go down as the greatest college player ever, but as TampaGator points out, Urban did win a BCS title in &#8216;06 when Chris Leak, who Johnny Brantly more resembles, was the starting QB.</p>
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		<title>By: Instant Classic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instant Classic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all those who think UF will be nothing without Tebow, his backup was rated 5 stars on all sites and the Gatorade National Player of the Year his senior year.  Its not like they have a &quot;Joe Cox&quot; waiting in the wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all those who think UF will be nothing without Tebow, his backup was rated 5 stars on all sites and the Gatorade National Player of the Year his senior year.  Its not like they have a &#8220;Joe Cox&#8221; waiting in the wings.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGA91...the 6 years was related to the 6-year extension contract Meyer just signed, not to recruiting of this year&#039;s high school kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGA91&#8230;the 6 years was related to the 6-year extension contract Meyer just signed, not to recruiting of this year&#8217;s high school kids.</p>
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		<title>By: UGA91</title>
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		<dc:creator>UGA91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slow down TG!  The recruiting period isn&#039;t over and you are proclaiming UF dominance for the next 6 years.  Why don&#039;t you let these upcoming seniors play the season out, graduate, then join your program before making wild prognostications!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow down TG!  The recruiting period isn&#8217;t over and you are proclaiming UF dominance for the next 6 years.  Why don&#8217;t you let these upcoming seniors play the season out, graduate, then join your program before making wild prognostications!</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exley...I should have written...visit the site only if you have an open mind and are willing to expand your thinking beyond your own opinion. If you read the story, it is not biased at all. It is one of the best journalistic pieces I have read in a while, matter of fact. Great inside on a great coach. P.S. I would have no hesitation about reading a story on Richt on &quot;dawgsports.com&quot; because I would be interested in learning more about Coach Richt, who I think (along with Meyer) is one of the best coaches in America (but I also think ole Willie is an outstand defensive coodinator, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exley&#8230;I should have written&#8230;visit the site only if you have an open mind and are willing to expand your thinking beyond your own opinion. If you read the story, it is not biased at all. It is one of the best journalistic pieces I have read in a while, matter of fact. Great inside on a great coach. P.S. I would have no hesitation about reading a story on Richt on &#8220;dawgsports.com&#8221; because I would be interested in learning more about Coach Richt, who I think (along with Meyer) is one of the best coaches in America (but I also think ole Willie is an outstand defensive coodinator, too).</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, Tood. If the Gators were built around one player, the Gators would not have won 2 of the last 3 national titles. And, as I said in the previous blog, if you think the Gators would be just an average team without Tebow, you obviously know nothing about the talent on the Gators roster, especially on defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, Tood. If the Gators were built around one player, the Gators would not have won 2 of the last 3 national titles. And, as I said in the previous blog, if you think the Gators would be just an average team without Tebow, you obviously know nothing about the talent on the Gators roster, especially on defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Exley DAWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exley DAWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd is correct.  Tebow is incredible but he is gone after &#039;09.  No one has his leadership skills which is his greatest attibute.  Let&#039;s see.....go to a website named gatorsports.com and hear propaganda about how great Urban Meyer is?  Seems like a biased site to me.  Simmer down, your to cocky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd is correct.  Tebow is incredible but he is gone after &#8216;09.  No one has his leadership skills which is his greatest attibute.  Let&#8217;s see&#8230;..go to a website named gatorsports.com and hear propaganda about how great Urban Meyer is?  Seems like a biased site to me.  Simmer down, your to cocky.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd...Tebow was not the starting QB for the 2006 NC team. Nor was he the QB of the great Utah team under Meyer. Nor did he QB for Bowling Green when Meyer took them to the top of the MAC. And I have been telling you, but you don&#039;t listen, John Brantley is an extremely talented QB and a much better passer than Tebow (who is a good passer) and the Gators are 3-deep in big time talent at almost every position. In fact, some of the Gators 2nd and 3rd teams players might be better than some of the 1st string starters (Will Hill, Omar Hunter, Justin Trattou, and several of the &quot;backup&quot; cornerbacks and linebackers for example). PLUS...if you don&#039;t think Urban Meyer is the man I think he is....go to www.gatorsports.com and read: &quot;This is It.&quot; Then you will understand why I think so highly of Urban Meyer and why he is the best college football coach in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd&#8230;Tebow was not the starting QB for the 2006 NC team. Nor was he the QB of the great Utah team under Meyer. Nor did he QB for Bowling Green when Meyer took them to the top of the MAC. And I have been telling you, but you don&#8217;t listen, John Brantley is an extremely talented QB and a much better passer than Tebow (who is a good passer) and the Gators are 3-deep in big time talent at almost every position. In fact, some of the Gators 2nd and 3rd teams players might be better than some of the 1st string starters (Will Hill, Omar Hunter, Justin Trattou, and several of the &#8220;backup&#8221; cornerbacks and linebackers for example). PLUS&#8230;if you don&#8217;t think Urban Meyer is the man I think he is&#8230;.go to <a href="http://www.gatorsports.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gatorsports.com</a> and read: &#8220;This is It.&#8221; Then you will understand why I think so highly of Urban Meyer and why he is the best college football coach in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Its High school</title>
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		<dc:creator>Its High school</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my name says it all. Why are all of us 30+ year olds worried about high school rankings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my name says it all. Why are all of us 30+ year olds worried about high school rankings.</p>
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		<title>By: Are u Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are u Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This  Espn 150 has to be the biggest joke. They have most not all but most of guys without one college offer in the top 150 over guys with multiple from division 1 school offers . Is ESPN saying they know more than the  coaches that get paid to  recruit the best. BIG BIG JOKE!!!!!!!!! It appears to be just a money maker. You subscribe to us. We rank your kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  Espn 150 has to be the biggest joke. They have most not all but most of guys without one college offer in the top 150 over guys with multiple from division 1 school offers . Is ESPN saying they know more than the  coaches that get paid to  recruit the best. BIG BIG JOKE!!!!!!!!! It appears to be just a money maker. You subscribe to us. We rank your kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tampa Gator, keep dreaming about dominance for UF. When superman leaves after this year you guys will not be the team you have seen the last 4 years. A talent like Tebow comes along about every 20-30 years. Urban is not the man you think he is. That team is built around one man and without him UF is just and average team....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampa Gator, keep dreaming about dominance for UF. When superman leaves after this year you guys will not be the team you have seen the last 4 years. A talent like Tebow comes along about every 20-30 years. Urban is not the man you think he is. That team is built around one man and without him UF is just and average team&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TheItalianDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheItalianDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TampaGator, 
I will say 50% of the 5 stars will turn big time busts, and 50% of the lower stars will turn to be great players and I know and Im sure many know as well numerous examples. I dont think Florida has more talent! I think Georgia and Florida have very similar level of talent, yes Florida  have 9 in the ESPN 150 and Georgia have 7 but both have exactly 10 players graded in the 80s.  I&#039;d rather have a 2 stars die hard dawg over an overrated 5 star, its the heart what count most</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TampaGator,<br />
I will say 50% of the 5 stars will turn big time busts, and 50% of the lower stars will turn to be great players and I know and Im sure many know as well numerous examples. I dont think Florida has more talent! I think Georgia and Florida have very similar level of talent, yes Florida  have 9 in the ESPN 150 and Georgia have 7 but both have exactly 10 players graded in the 80s.  I&#8217;d rather have a 2 stars die hard dawg over an overrated 5 star, its the heart what count most</p>
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		<title>By: Flo-Ri-Duh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flo-Ri-Duh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You listed what you considered to be highly rated commits who were busts but I strongly disagree on Fred Gibson - he was successful at UGA and he was a great athlete.</description>
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		<title>By: Flo-Ri-Duh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flo-Ri-Duh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this rating of players is not a science and quite often they are just plain wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: dawgydawg47</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawgydawg47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed that most of the top ranked players have not committed?  They want to keep us interested. It happens that way every year.  Coincidence, I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed that most of the top ranked players have not committed?  They want to keep us interested. It happens that way every year.  Coincidence, I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: The</title>
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		<dc:creator>The</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Not Disappointed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Disappointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rankings have been wrong in the past. It&#039;s how the player develops over the years!   Ramblin Wreck!!</description>
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		<title>By: GTDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TG:

Your story of the WR is along the lines of my point exactly. My position is that the recruiting services can certainly put the kids&#039; names out there. And yes, I would say that you probably have 90% of the top 150 high school players on the list. But until I learn differently, I&#039;m still of the opinion that these ratings are based primarily on stats from camps. There are players out there who don&#039;t spend their summers chasing football camps, and of those who do, I&#039;d rather study film and check out the kid in person.

Of course, no matter WHAT you do, it&#039;s still a partial crapshoot to predict future success at any level. Even the NFL, with all of the resources that they put into scouting, miss on players all too frequently.

Interesting personal story: My last year of Pop Warner ball, we had an awesome team. Our starting QB was a man among boys, calling audibles and checking off plays before most college QBs were allowed to do so. He never even made his high school&#039;s varsity team. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th string QBs went on to start 8 years on their respective varsity teams in HS, and 2 of them earned scholarships.

Okay, I&#039;m rambling now.....better go...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TG:</p>
<p>Your story of the WR is along the lines of my point exactly. My position is that the recruiting services can certainly put the kids&#8217; names out there. And yes, I would say that you probably have 90% of the top 150 high school players on the list. But until I learn differently, I&#8217;m still of the opinion that these ratings are based primarily on stats from camps. There are players out there who don&#8217;t spend their summers chasing football camps, and of those who do, I&#8217;d rather study film and check out the kid in person.</p>
<p>Of course, no matter WHAT you do, it&#8217;s still a partial crapshoot to predict future success at any level. Even the NFL, with all of the resources that they put into scouting, miss on players all too frequently.</p>
<p>Interesting personal story: My last year of Pop Warner ball, we had an awesome team. Our starting QB was a man among boys, calling audibles and checking off plays before most college QBs were allowed to do so. He never even made his high school&#8217;s varsity team. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th string QBs went on to start 8 years on their respective varsity teams in HS, and 2 of them earned scholarships.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m rambling now&#8230;..better go&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: jambee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jambee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Tommy Luginbill, the guarterback that Bill Lewis stuck in the ahead of a superior Donnie Davis.  Unbelievable.</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. U</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. U</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These recruiting boards and services dont really mean a whole lot at this point... these kids havent even played their senior season yet and you have recruiting websites saying that one running back is better than another.  Who is to say that the 10th best running back in the nation is not as good as the 20th?  Obviously the 5th best running back will be better than the 50th, but these kids still have an entire year of football and working out before they even get to college, then most arent even relied on/utilized until their sophomore year or better, so these kids have an average of two to three years before they will be college starters.  You never know who will rise up and turn into a star...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These recruiting boards and services dont really mean a whole lot at this point&#8230; these kids havent even played their senior season yet and you have recruiting websites saying that one running back is better than another.  Who is to say that the 10th best running back in the nation is not as good as the 20th?  Obviously the 5th best running back will be better than the 50th, but these kids still have an entire year of football and working out before they even get to college, then most arent even relied on/utilized until their sophomore year or better, so these kids have an average of two to three years before they will be college starters.  You never know who will rise up and turn into a star&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GTDog...the Rivals and Scouts early ratings are based a lot of personal opinion and hearsay based on watching film sent to them. However, if you look at the players most of the major schools are seriously in the hunt for, the recruiting services are fairly on target. But there are players...like the WR Florida just signed our of a prep school and from Canada before...that non of the recruiting services have information on. That makes what Florida did with the kid more impressive. They got a commit from a very talented kid that none of the recruiting services knew anything about...and still don&#039;t. The recuitnics are getting better and better each year, although they will never be an exact science due to the fact that these are 17 and 18-year-old kids who are in the process of growing into men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GTDog&#8230;the Rivals and Scouts early ratings are based a lot of personal opinion and hearsay based on watching film sent to them. However, if you look at the players most of the major schools are seriously in the hunt for, the recruiting services are fairly on target. But there are players&#8230;like the WR Florida just signed our of a prep school and from Canada before&#8230;that non of the recruiting services have information on. That makes what Florida did with the kid more impressive. They got a commit from a very talented kid that none of the recruiting services knew anything about&#8230;and still don&#8217;t. The recuitnics are getting better and better each year, although they will never be an exact science due to the fact that these are 17 and 18-year-old kids who are in the process of growing into men.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Chip and Einstein, if you can serf the internet (which I have plenty fo time to do right now), mainly reading the major newspaper sports pages on line, you can get all the recruiting information you need without paying for it...and a lot of it is published as a result of the sportswriters reading the recruiting web sites....so why pay for it...let them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Chip and Einstein, if you can serf the internet (which I have plenty fo time to do right now), mainly reading the major newspaper sports pages on line, you can get all the recruiting information you need without paying for it&#8230;and a lot of it is published as a result of the sportswriters reading the recruiting web sites&#8230;.so why pay for it&#8230;let them.</p>
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		<title>By: GTDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Einstein, they are HIGH SCHOOL player ratings, not COLLEGE player ratings. I do see your point about the ratings being highly suspect, but they&#039;re fun and give us fans something to talk about in the off-season. And yes, it IS a business, and the goal of that business is to keep the topic hot and fresh, thus maintaining interest....and subscriptions.

I&#039;ve said it before, and I&#039;ll say it again here. I feel pretty confident that Richt and Meyer, etc. don&#039;t sit in front of a computer screen all day looking at these ratings. It doesn&#039;t mean that the Dogs and Gators don&#039;t have great recruiting classes, but I think the coaches are judging success on based on a little different set of criteria.

So, enjoy the ratings, I&#039;m sure they&#039;re reasonably accurate snapshots of a player&#039;s college potential. Just don&#039;t get too excited one way or the other.

TAMPAGATOR: Sorry to hear you&#039;re under the weather, I tend to enjoy your posts. Hope you get well soon...but....as long as you have some time on your hands...have you thought about looking at the ratings and whether they tend to &#039;downgrade&#039; kids after they have committed in order to keep the excitement going with &#039;top notch&#039; uncommitted players? I&#039;ve heard that charge before, just never had the time to check it out....could be interesting.

GTDog say...Ruff Ruff and Bzzz Bzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Einstein, they are HIGH SCHOOL player ratings, not COLLEGE player ratings. I do see your point about the ratings being highly suspect, but they&#8217;re fun and give us fans something to talk about in the off-season. And yes, it IS a business, and the goal of that business is to keep the topic hot and fresh, thus maintaining interest&#8230;.and subscriptions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, and I&#8217;ll say it again here. I feel pretty confident that Richt and Meyer, etc. don&#8217;t sit in front of a computer screen all day looking at these ratings. It doesn&#8217;t mean that the Dogs and Gators don&#8217;t have great recruiting classes, but I think the coaches are judging success on based on a little different set of criteria.</p>
<p>So, enjoy the ratings, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re reasonably accurate snapshots of a player&#8217;s college potential. Just don&#8217;t get too excited one way or the other.</p>
<p>TAMPAGATOR: Sorry to hear you&#8217;re under the weather, I tend to enjoy your posts. Hope you get well soon&#8230;but&#8230;.as long as you have some time on your hands&#8230;have you thought about looking at the ratings and whether they tend to &#8216;downgrade&#8217; kids after they have committed in order to keep the excitement going with &#8216;top notch&#8217; uncommitted players? I&#8217;ve heard that charge before, just never had the time to check it out&#8230;.could be interesting.</p>
<p>GTDog say&#8230;Ruff Ruff and Bzzz Bzz</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip...I think the ESPN ratings are the best because they wait until after all the college camps and the other specialized camps to finalize their ratings. They also send their &quot;experts&quot; to see those recruits perform in person, not just on film like some of the other ratings. If you look back at the last couple of years, ESPN&#039;s recruiting ratings have turned out to be fairly accurate. In fact, ESPN has a posted story about the 2006 ratings of high school players. The top 10 players turned out to be really good players. Fred Gibson also was drafted by the pros and had a try with the Falcons, I believe. He just didn&#039;t have enough bulk to play in the pros, and that same factor hindered his rise in college as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip&#8230;I think the ESPN ratings are the best because they wait until after all the college camps and the other specialized camps to finalize their ratings. They also send their &#8220;experts&#8221; to see those recruits perform in person, not just on film like some of the other ratings. If you look back at the last couple of years, ESPN&#8217;s recruiting ratings have turned out to be fairly accurate. In fact, ESPN has a posted story about the 2006 ratings of high school players. The top 10 players turned out to be really good players. Fred Gibson also was drafted by the pros and had a try with the Falcons, I believe. He just didn&#8217;t have enough bulk to play in the pros, and that same factor hindered his rise in college as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Towers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Towers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein: I agree with you and I drop those names all the time in discussions about recruiting rankings. However, I&#039;ll take issue with you on two points: (1) Freddie Gibson was a pretty darn good college football player; (2) I don&#039;t recall Torin Kirtsey being that highly rated. Perhaps you&#039;re confusing him with Sterling Boyd, about whom Mark Bradley and I had a laugh just yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einstein: I agree with you and I drop those names all the time in discussions about recruiting rankings. However, I&#8217;ll take issue with you on two points: (1) Freddie Gibson was a pretty darn good college football player; (2) I don&#8217;t recall Torin Kirtsey being that highly rated. Perhaps you&#8217;re confusing him with Sterling Boyd, about whom Mark Bradley and I had a laugh just yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that should read...&quot;that would not BE ME!&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein...that would not by ME!</description>
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		<title>By: Einstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Einstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tampa Gator...the YOU are all the folks drinking the kool aid (and paying the bucks) dispensed by these recruiting services. Peace and good luck to your Gators this fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampa Gator&#8230;the YOU are all the folks drinking the kool aid (and paying the bucks) dispensed by these recruiting services. Peace and good luck to your Gators this fall.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein...who is the &quot;you&quot; to whom you are referring? I don&#039;t believe the real Einstein made such general, generalizations about people or things...in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einstein&#8230;who is the &#8220;you&#8221; to whom you are referring? I don&#8217;t believe the real Einstein made such general, generalizations about people or things&#8230;in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Einstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Einstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry about these rankings.  Does Jasper Sanks, Jamie Harris, Mudcat, Pepe Zelner, Andy Bailey, Gerald Browner, Brandon Miller, Fred Gibson, Torin Kirtsey, Cecil the diesel, et al ring a bell?  All good folks, but not 5 star athletes on the field in college.  Rankings should be made after the players have been on their teams for 3 years...not before they finish high school.  Of course, look at all the money these services are making on nerds like you.  Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about these rankings.  Does Jasper Sanks, Jamie Harris, Mudcat, Pepe Zelner, Andy Bailey, Gerald Browner, Brandon Miller, Fred Gibson, Torin Kirtsey, Cecil the diesel, et al ring a bell?  All good folks, but not 5 star athletes on the field in college.  Rankings should be made after the players have been on their teams for 3 years&#8230;not before they finish high school.  Of course, look at all the money these services are making on nerds like you.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: ReptilesRule</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReptilesRule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Mack Brown. Can&#039;t wait to see you in the Swamp!</description>
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