Saban takes aim at recruiting services

By DARRYL MAXIE / dmaxie@ajc.com

Alabama coach Nick Saban says reporters for recruiting services should be held accountable for passing incorrect — and possibly damaging — information to potential Crimson Tide recruits.

Saban’s complaint, given a voice in Ian Rapoport’s blog for the Birmingham News, comes in the wake of NCAA sanctions against Alabama. The Crimson Tide didn’t lose any future scholarships on June 11, when the NCAA placed the school on three years’ probation, forced the football team to vacate 21 victories and fined them. The school is trying to win an appeal against the NCAA.

The Alabama coach, however, says that reporters for recruiting services — ones that Saban hint have an allegiance for teams Alabama recruits against — are spreading misinformation about the NCAA sanctions and that it’s designed to hurt Crimson Tide recruiting. Moreover, Saban seems to imply, the damaging information is being laundered by coaches through the recruiting services.

But Saban didn’t specify any recruiting service, however, nor did he cite a specific example.

110 comments Add your comment

Steve

June 22nd, 2009
7:54 am

Saban has been able to reach across state lines and grab some players and some folks don’t like that. I guess if you can’t beat Saban then you do this kind of stuff. Yeah…yeah..I know Florida and Utah beat them last year but some others failed miserably in their attempts to beat this team that was unproven and unranked. ROLL TIDE.

Diamond Dawg

June 22nd, 2009
8:00 am

Don't Tase Me Bro

June 22nd, 2009
8:09 am

Cry me a river Saban. Here’s a new one if you’re so worried about “misinformation,” run a clean program. If you can’t, shut your piehole. Bama is the SEC’s blackeye for rogue programs.

Skydawg

June 22nd, 2009
8:32 am

Boo-the-F-hoo!!!! Saban is such a whiner. Perhaps then the NCAA should crack down further on the “Saban” rule where he utilizes unintended loopholes for contacting recruits via streaming video on the PC during non-contact or down periods. He’s a scumbag cheater, always has been, always will be. But once he starts getting called out on it, he starts the crying and sob stories. Pathetic.

Eric

June 22nd, 2009
8:33 am

What a weeney!

Eric

June 22nd, 2009
8:46 am

Is Auburn still in the league?

anotherdawg

June 22nd, 2009
8:59 am

Sounds like a diversion. It was somebody else’s fault, not mine. Just cause we got in trouble, recruiting services shouldn’t be allowed to talk about, right?

Bama Aaron

June 22nd, 2009
9:02 am

Frankly I think Saban’s got a point. Recruiting should be about showcasing your school…not badmouthing and rumor-mongering about opposing schools. Of course some schools would never get a recruit without doing that.

Gator in the Hootch

June 22nd, 2009
9:15 am

Recruiting service experts…how many of your 4 and 5 star designees end up being 4 or 5 star college players…or in the NFL draft for that matter. You should just report the facts, Jack, and leave the stars for Hollywood daydreamers.

Rocky

June 22nd, 2009
9:23 am

Sounds like some fans from schools in the SEC that have been beaten this past year by Alabama are venting (Dawg Fans?). Point blank, Coach Saban is the best innovative recruiter there is and he does play by the rules, if you can’t beat him, whine about him. Of course, all these bloggers teams have the “only honest” recruiters in football. Roll Tide, eliminator of the “black out”, don’t think you will be seeing any of those funeral jersey’s worn anytime soon. R.I.P.

STFU!!!!!

June 22nd, 2009
9:31 am

IMAGINE THAT A dawg fan TELLIN’ SOMEONE TO QUIT CRYIN’!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF CRYBABIES IN THE S.E.C.!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Bill

June 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

He’s right. The services are basically extensions of the football programs with the information they collect. While I think all programs get some benefits from theses services only a few use them to negatively recruit. You can likely guess the ones that have to do that.

Edgewatermike

June 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

Skydawg, you have any examples of Coach Saban cheating? Examples might mean more than baseless accusations hidden behind your computer.

Bamafan

June 22nd, 2009
9:41 am

Wonder which the cow college or ucheat blogs sites it is that is telling lies? Answer Both!! They both
hate Saban for kicking tail and taking names!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

Blindog

June 22nd, 2009
9:44 am

STFU…YOU ARE AN IDIOT DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND STFU

Ramblin Rick

June 22nd, 2009
10:18 am

Shut your yaps you pathetic mutts. Your still bitter over that a$$ beating from last year bama gave you. Oh yeah 45-42 mutts waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Perspective

June 22nd, 2009
10:29 am

I would not call a 3 point win a beat down, bama definitely put it to the dawgs. The dawgs may not win a game this year, that is if you listen to everyone, but a dawg fan. A dawg fan thinks SEC contenders. Reality is 7 to 8 wins, maybe 9 with good coaching. Outback bowl. Next year probably a 10 win season, the next maybe 11. Consistent team, but not a NC contender.

Helluva Engineer

June 22nd, 2009
10:30 am

Guess whos back, back again???? Helluva Engineer, to own you mutts.

Here puppy puppies, here puppies…..

dawg07

June 22nd, 2009
10:36 am

Coaches and players are the ones that should be held accountable for their actions and for the coaches their like of actions. ADs and the schools if there is a pattern or repeat violations.Seems like some coaches want to blame someone else rather than taking responsibility.

Albert Means

June 22nd, 2009
10:38 am

Hey – Lay off my boy Nicky. He da man. Got me a new crimpscom colored mustang parked in my front yard ta proof it. Roll Tide!!!

Dre Kirkpatrick

June 22nd, 2009
10:41 am

Hey Meansy – Me TOO!!! Kinda crazy how you got one like 5 years ago, and I got me one this year. Guess some things jus don’t never change. Roll Tide!!!

theTruth

June 22nd, 2009
10:44 am

Enter your comments here

spider

June 22nd, 2009
10:50 am

if saban is crying now wait till next year after the MIGHTY PANTHERS of GA STATE upset him on nov 20 1010

theTruth

June 22nd, 2009
10:52 am

Negative recruiting, this must be a ‘new’ invention by the recruiting services. Puuuhhhleaseeee. If you don’t want negative recruiting, don’t give your adversaries anything to use. That is plain and simple.

Edgewater, please look up the ‘bump’ rule. It will have Saban’s face beside it. You are allowed to say hello as passing ‘if’ you see the prospective recruit and ‘hello’ only. Not telling them how good they will be/we want you to come/etc. A great recruiter? Yeah, I’ll buy that, his record speaks for itself.

Perspective, why make up stuff? Your jealousy is noted. I would consider TOP 5 finishes (in the running for a NC) in multiple years. Top 10 6 out of 7 years. Your jealousy drivels off your keyboard.

Maddog

June 22nd, 2009
10:52 am

Nice deflection, Nick. The university gets busted for free textbooks and your response is to criticize the recruiting services??

whitx2

June 22nd, 2009
11:19 am

Nov. 20 1010. Had a good joust match. Don’t know about football.

Steve

June 22nd, 2009
11:23 am

Dang, look at the GA fans still being bitter about getting all dressed up last year in their cute little black jersey’s, expecting a big romp over Bama and look what Saban did to that little party. Cheer up, at least Bama’s third string allwed GA to get some points on the board. That was mighty kind of Saban. He took pity on you guys. ROLL TIDE.

Turkey Tacos

June 22nd, 2009
11:26 am

Stick ‘em in your ears, folks!

Bear Bryant

June 22nd, 2009
11:36 am

Guess what, I’m still dead

Flo-Ri-Duh!

June 22nd, 2009
11:37 am

B.S. Albert Means did not get a crimson colored Mustang from Bama …. he couldn’t even fit in to a Mustang …. couldn’t get that fat butt in a Mustang …. come on …. an Escalade maybe but definitely not a Mustang.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

June 22nd, 2009
11:38 am

Dear Bear – if you are dead quit Venting – this site is for live people only!

sec, bama whiners

June 22nd, 2009
11:42 am

cry me a freekin river you whiners.

what yall are whining about is no different than say….

-showing recruits a gt calculus book
-saying that paul johnson’s offenses is not conducive to getting into the nfl
-saying that ol,rb,rec,qbs from gt will never make it in the nfl
-pointing out the issues with downtown atlanta. never mind that the sec (uga fla bama) probably lead the country in player arrests. now THAT is a nice climate for young players to learn an develop eh?

lets get real here for a second. its a fact of life that many recruiters use negative tactics. its never going to stop.

more… dont many recruiters keep pointing out that the old ball sack at usc could retire at any time? isnt that a lie?

grow up you cheating sec whiners for cris sakes.

next think you know is that the sec will be lowering the admission standards further and signing 35-40 players instead of the maximum 28.

oh never mind, they already do that…….

this whole topic is a farce. cheaters an whiners whining about … cheaters an whiners.

Walter Lewis

June 22nd, 2009
11:42 am

Like Saban said, The recruiting sites are not regelated by the NCAA, so they turn into 24 hour a day, 7 day a week recruiters for whatever institution they represent. So what do they do? They get on the phone and plug there school and bad mouth others by saying ” Bama is looking down the barrel of major sanctions or Coach Kiffen is skating on thin ice in Knoxville with his comments”. Some of these guys dont do anything but slam other schools to make theres look better. But in the end the cream will rise to the top and rich will keep getting richer.

Pi$$onaDAWG

June 22nd, 2009
11:48 am

Make the SEC play in the Penitentuary League where they all belong, and get them out of NCAA FOOTBALL. All the coaches cry and whine that they didn’t know, it’s not my fault, your are picking on our school. The SEC coaches all sound like every defendent in court, Innoscent and I will appeal.

The Grinch

June 22nd, 2009
11:58 am

To all UGA fans

Hey, guys, we just need to shut our traps. After all, Ramblin Rick said so ……….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! What a tool.

Zach

June 22nd, 2009
11:58 am

Saban, Do you own freaking research! My goodness, why don’t you cry some more. If you want accountability with players tape why dont you ask accountability from players moms in terms of character. Thats the whole freaking point of recruiting, to take all the information in and decipher BASED ON YOUR OWN EVALUATION whether players are good enough caliber for you to offer a scholarship. What a joke. Could you possibly complain any more.

Ramblin Rick

June 22nd, 2009
12:06 pm

to “The Grinch” – 45-42. PAUL JOHNSON owns your boy Mark Richt.

Tider up

June 22nd, 2009
12:08 pm

You dog homers will give the media and recruiting services the benefit of the doubt b/c you and Richt have been their little darling for the past couple of years. Beware, it will not be long before you are crying “foul” due to GT gaining all of your ATL press. PJ is a coach, much like SAban, who knows what he wants and has a plan to get it done.

tr

June 22nd, 2009
12:08 pm

4 championships in 14 years for the Tide should be able to overcome any such PR problem. Wait a minute, that wasn’t championships. It was 4 NCAA probations in 14 years. Maybe Saben should’ve done a little research into his new program before signing on.

Tider up

June 22nd, 2009
12:12 pm

Dear poster titled ” Bear Bryant” …. I will pray for you.

The Grinch

June 22nd, 2009
12:13 pm

To all delusional tech fans who think Athens is a dump. Read this:

Georgia Tech robberies continue: 2 students held up
Some students concerned they don’t get told of serious incidents
By MIKE MORRIS

Sunday, June 21, 2009

Two Georgia Tech students were robbed early Sunday in the same area just off campus where another Tech student was shot during a robbery last month, Atlanta police said.

THIS WAS STRAIGHT FROM THE AJC. I’M SURE YOU’LL SCREAM “BIASED REPORTING”…

The Grinch

June 22nd, 2009
12:14 pm

To Ramblin Rick

By the way, we all know you have a man-crush on CPJ.

The Grinch

June 22nd, 2009
12:15 pm

To Ramblin Rick

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The Grinch

June 22nd, 2009
12:16 pm

To Ramblin Rick

Okay, Ricky, I’ll “shut my trap” now…..BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

benadawg

June 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm

I love to see them bammers cry foul, ya’ll been losing so long you have to try and cheat to get back, face it the death penalty is coming

Trent Richardson

June 22nd, 2009
12:29 pm

Everybody talked about coach Saban. Everybody liked to talk about him. It means one thing: “Everybody’s scared of him. That’s what it means to me.” Trent Richardson, the nations no. 1 or no. 2 rated tailback (depending on recruiting svc) on national signing day last year as he speaks on Coach Saban and Alabama’s second consecutive consensus no. 1 rated recruiting class.

Saban picked up 3 more commitments over this weekend to bring Bama’s 2010 crop to 15 recruits already committed and 2 commits for the 2011 class. This nonsense certainly doesn’t seem to be slowing him down. Before this weekend’s haul Bama had the number 2 rated class in the country according to scout.com.

Can you say triple back to back to back no. 1 ranked recruiting classes? Roll Ride Roll!

Helluva Engineer

June 22nd, 2009
12:30 pm

benadawg = mutt fan still upset about the beat down Saban gave em.

Season Ticket Holder

June 22nd, 2009
12:36 pm

Bama fans in the know, know exactly the person he was referring to and for the team he reports on. This article didn’t mention the original blog by Ian about the players calling and saying the same thing and Coach asked them where they were hearing it from and they all gave the same answer.

Obviously this guy Maxie has nothing to report on his own so he reports on an article from another reporter and adds nothing to it. Must be nice to get paid for doing nothing.

JB

June 22nd, 2009
12:37 pm

Well, more crime near Tech Campus per AJC today…….You would think with all that Homeland Security on Campus looking at the student base, crime would drop………..

The real Dre Kirkpatrick speaks

June 22nd, 2009
12:50 pm

tr,

4 probations in 14 years. Get your facts straight son. Bama had 4 appearances before the committee, not actual probations. Including the recent probations Bama has had 3 major infractions cases brought against it alltime by the NCAA. UGA and Auburn are tied for 3rd most with several other schools with 6 major infractions cases brought against each of them by the NCAA. I guess you never let the facts get in the way of your argument.

the truth,

You obviously don’t know the truth. Saban filed a report to the NCAA about bumping into a recruit in Miami Etienne Sabino 2 years ago. Nothing became of it with the NCAA. Do a little actual real research buddy and then maybe you will be enlightened as to the real “truth”

Albert Means.

Your recruitment occurred in 1998-99 before Saban even got to LSU. How the idiot who mentions you and Saban in the same sentence and uses your name is beyond me. What a freaking idiot!

Skydawg,

So Saban is cheating and you have absolute proof of this of course? Not mere accusations that you write while hiding behind a keyboard but actual proof right? Please provide your proof and I’ll wire you $1,000. If you can’t provide proof then just STFU moron. You have zero credibility.

Dre Kirkpatrick imposter,

Perhaps you missed my interview with bamaonline.com a couple of weeks ago. In the interview the Bama reporter jokingly asked what my favorite car was and I mockingly responded “Dodge Charger”. An imbecile like you obviously doesn’t get it so I’ll spell it out for you. We’re mocking you and all the other idiots who like to propogate the rumor started on Auburn message boards that we’ve been getting free Dodge Chargers from a Gadsden area dealership.

Sorry buddy but the Gadsden thing? Well, its already been looked into and there is nothing there. As a matter of fact it looks like the Auburn booster and UT booster who started this nonsense are going to be hearing from the NCAA sometime soon. Yep. Looks like this one backfired on you.

I’m looking forward to joining the boatloads of talent building up the Alabama juggernaut and whooping you Auburn and UT boys for a long time to come.