Tech could be more than halfway home

By DARRYL MAXIE / dmaxie@ajc.com

It’s about two-thirds of a year to National Signing Day 2010, but Georgia Tech could be more than halfway there. The Yellow Jackets’ three commitments over the weekend ran their total to seven, and recruiting coordinator Giff Smith has stated that they will sign between 12 and 15 players come next February. So the Jackets try to make the most of those they get.

Offensive linemen Morgan Bailey and Catlin Alford joined safety Isaiah Johnson as newly committed to Tech. Bailey is a 6-foot-4, 285-pounder from Loganville who is being offered by five SEC and four other ACC schools. Alford (6-4, 275), from Adairsville, has been offered by Navy, Ohio and Western Michigan. Johnson (6-2, 175), from Sandy Creek, has been offered by three SEC schools (including Georgia) and two ACC schools, also chose Tech.

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GT4ever

June 15th, 2009
5:50 pm

Halfway to another top 100 class, maybe we can break the top 50 this time!!! Woohoo, keep bringing in the top two star athletes in the state. 45-42!! One in a row! We’ve won 4 (altho records will delete 3 of those b/c we cheated) out of how many? 19? We’re back!!! (there, I think that about covers it)

SickandTired

June 15th, 2009
6:04 pm

oh my, an illiterate Dawg Fan trying his best to impersonate a Georgia Tech fan. See, the first requisite is intelligence and you sir are sorely lacking. Try this on for size Smart Guy, and I think it will shut you up…..as much as you denegrate the Jackets and all of your ilk love to do it, Georgia Tech has beaten the University of Georgia Bulldogs more since 1990 than your beloved Dawgs have beaten the Gators. How’s that make you feel? It should make you feel like the lily livered pond scum, trailer livin’, underachieving Georgia fan that you are. Oh how Dawg Fans are so easy to bring back to reality. And oh yeah, the cheatin Jackets have won a National Championship since your bought and paid for running back of mulitlple personalities left the campus in Athens in his paid for Red Trans Am.

SANTA DAWG

June 15th, 2009
6:14 pm

WHY DON`T YOU GA. YUCK FANS JUST SHUT UP. YES I AM A DAWG FAN AND DAM PROUD OF IT

spider

June 15th, 2009
6:20 pm

i really dont care where the so call recruting experts rank GT, its where gt is at the end of november that counts

spider

June 15th, 2009
6:24 pm

hey santa i got some bad news for you, all college fans are proud of their teams

chuck allison

June 15th, 2009
6:42 pm

SANTA DAWG, don’t you have any ambition?

Pi$$onaDAWG

June 15th, 2009
6:46 pm

Welcome young men and good luck on your Sr. Years. Enjoy the time but don’t forget to work on the grades.

BS Patrol

June 15th, 2009
6:58 pm

Santa Dawg is the standard by which the breed should be judged.

gatorman770

June 15th, 2009
7:29 pm

That’s great for the Yellow Jackets!

I’m sure Darryl was going to cover it tomorrow, but the Gators picked up their 13th commitment yesterday so they’re over half way home to another excellent class.

Go Jackets and Gators!

Tokyo jacket

June 15th, 2009
7:32 pm

To SickTired, responding with logic to an illogical person is like trying to rationalize morality with a religious fanatic: you’re talking about the same thing but the fanatic isn’t willing to listen. So, my post is for Tech fans and UGA fans who like a debate, not a namecalling session.

As for recruiting rankings, they mean squat. UGA has had top 5 recruiting classes lately. Well, our average of #35 over the past 5 years or so beat your average of #7 or so on the field last year. People can say all that uninspired crap, but Tech won with what scouts identified as “lesser players.”

The bottom line about recruiting rankings is that they’re largely based on who offers a kid. If there is an unranked player that is offered by USC, he’ll become a 4-star at least within a week. Our new signees were unranked by scout.com and now they’re all 3-stars, because they had offers from us, UGA, FSU, Miami, Ole Miss, etc.

What makes a recruiter special, is finding talent other people don’t respect (think Bill Belichik or Bill Parcells). That’s why I’m good w/ CPJ signing a slew of home grown 3-stars, redshirting them, and then not seeing the field until they’re sophomores. A 5th year redshirt 3-star plays pretty well. For proof, see Wake Forest’s draft two months ago.

Oh, and before anyone says it, we already know that UGA “didn’t want them.” Just like they didn’t want Dwyer or any of the other guys on our team this year. Of course, what does that say about a coach if he didn’t want Dwyer or any of the other 80 scholarship players that just beat him? To me it says he either can’t coach or can’t scout.

Tokyo jacket

June 15th, 2009
7:35 pm

Oh, one more cool thing: one trait that scout.com lists for almost all of our players is “work ethic/tenacity.” Exactly the guys you want.

Bill in Sandy Springs

June 15th, 2009
8:03 pm

Tokyo not all of Bellichik’s players were 2 star players.Tom Brady 5 stars(USA Today National Player of the Year out of high School), Richard Seymour 4 stars, Ty Law 5 stars. Your boy Dwyer was a 5 star tailback, Josh Nesbit was a 4 star prospect, and the difference maker in the Tech-Georgia game, Morgan Burnett, was a 4 star prospect. Tech needs big talent just as much as anybody else.

RK

June 15th, 2009
8:11 pm

you are right on, Tokyo. Richt was a component of the FSU dynasty but can’t quite put it together in Athens. Oh yes they did demolish Hawaii in the Sugar. UGA resembles Texas with its remarkable highly touted recruiting and star-studded crewe, just can’t bring it home.

WTF

June 15th, 2009
8:14 pm

Wow, now little Jimmie can pack his card bard bokes and stop sniffin meth. Heees prouud to b a GT fan close to to 6th skreet were al the homies hang out fo food at the bank. We can get mo tikets to scalp fo thes gamzs.

Diamond Dawg

June 15th, 2009
8:45 pm

Maybe Tech will crack the top fifty this yr in recruiting. Keep bringing in the athletes boys and selling them tickets. What a joke is Tech football!!

UGAissolastyear

June 15th, 2009
8:57 pm

UGA fans come in because they are getting nervous and are seeing the writing on the wall. All the press is heading GT’s way for a change and they can’t stand it. Nothing to report on the UGA front sorry. Everything is GT!!

SlimG

June 15th, 2009
9:21 pm

RK, dude Texas won the NC like four years ago?

t

June 15th, 2009
9:23 pm

I thought it was common knowledge by now that recruiting rankings are a joke. If these guys committed to Texas or Florida they would be at least 4 stars. This class will be small but it will be Tech’s best class in over a decade other than 07 with Dwyer, Nesbitt, Burnett, Jones, Morgan, etc. And better yet so far all 7 are from Georgia. I think that is important because these kids understand GT and their rivalries.

TigerMike

June 15th, 2009
9:32 pm

Looks like BAMA, Florida, LSU, and yes, UGA headed for another Top 10 Recruiting Class for 2010. UGA just landed a top 10 OL in Bruce Benedict from the state of Florida. Nice addition. UGA is slow to offer, but always recruits strong. This year should be no different than any other under CMR. GO SEC!!

Geaux Tigers!

Mister T

June 15th, 2009
9:40 pm

Thanks Slim. You beat me to it. cmr is a Mack Brown wannabee.

It is very interesting how the uga fans are “swarming” (pardon the pun)on the Tech blogsites to try and down play any good press that Tech gets.

I smell fear.

THWg!

Wreck7

June 15th, 2009
9:45 pm

Oh, the NCAA cleared Tech and they don’t have to forfeit anything. Do some research, dumb mutt.

Mister T

June 15th, 2009
9:48 pm

t,
CPJ and D-Rad plan to increase the fanbase in state by increasing the recruits from the state. If these guys come here from in state, it is much more likely that they will in turn convert a few local fans to pull for “the kid they know.” Much more difficult for a Bubba in Loganville to pull for uga and against his nephew, cousin, son of his best friend or what ever the connection at Georgia Tech.

Just keep winning and the plan will ultimately work.

Here is another reason to believe that CPJ is committed to staying at Tech…if he were looking to move on to another larger school, he would be focused only on the top recruits where ever they were. Unless he is looking to go to Athens, his recruiting approach and committment to developing Tech fanbase are sort of a waste of time.

Denver Dog

June 15th, 2009
10:51 pm

Obama and CPJ the current God’s of North Ave

gman

June 15th, 2009
10:55 pm

Dear WTF, yo, you ever been to Athens?

tigermike

June 15th, 2009
10:58 pm

Mister T……it starts with your apathetic student fanbase and your alumni…not the 85 kids on scholly each year.

After a couple 9-3/8-4 seasons, CPJ is off to greener pastures. Count on it.

Geaux Tigers

gman

June 15th, 2009
10:58 pm

Obama? Sh%t Denver dog – you at the LIBERAL farts school. that sob wouldn’t step foot on North Ave,

tigermike

June 15th, 2009
11:05 pm

Last time I looked this was a college recruiting blogsite.

KC

June 15th, 2009
11:10 pm

gman,
Obama’s already been on campus… Oops.

Recruitnik

June 16th, 2009
12:47 am

UGA received another commitment from a top 5 player at his position in the country in brent benedict. Yet the AJC is covering players for gt who aren’t even ranked on many boards. I mean UGA has two players that are better than all the players gt has right now combined..

blackprix

June 16th, 2009
2:36 am

Let’s see … Dawgs have been recruiting in the Top 15 for some years now and what has it gotten them – not much.

Every year those fans get more dilusional because their classes are highly rated, yet – NO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP – FUNNY AS HELL!

Alabama Jack

June 16th, 2009
6:20 am

dawg fans suck, and that’s all I have to say about that.

Frank

June 16th, 2009
7:06 am

Alabama Jack sucks and that’s all I have to say about that.

THWGT

SickandTired

June 16th, 2009
7:47 am

At what point, will the recruiting class rankings register with Dawg Fans that Mark Richt is an underachieving Coach with the resources which he has been given. The puppy faithful hold him up to be this great Saint of a man while others around him coach circles around him. The Dawg followers now want to make light of Tennessee and their new coahc and how he’s a cheater and a loser….tell you what, Monte Kiffin the new coach’s dad will out scheme the genius Richt as long as he’s a Tennessee……One statement you’ll never hear, “boy that Richt is one smart guy when it comes to coaching offense.”

Not Disappointed

June 16th, 2009
8:04 am

Congrats to the young men who will commit to Georgia Tech! Believing in Coach Paul Johnson’s ability to teach these young men it doesn’t matter how many stars they receive. Welcome aboard!They will receive an excellent education and be a part of growing dynasty in football. The Jackets are on the way. Ramblin Wreck!

Tokyo jacket

June 16th, 2009
8:05 am

Bill, good point about Bellichik. He’s got some talent, just like Tech. But, like CPJ, he’s good at taking the castaways and making them A-players. For starters, Patrick Pass was undrafted. So was Wes Welker. He got Troy Brown to play CB, which he hadn’t done since HS. Tom Brady was drafted in the 5th or 6th round by the way, so I’d consider him a find. If he gets drafted by Cincinnati, we wouldn’t even know his names.

Just so we’re clear though, Caleb King was the 5-star and Dwyer was the 4-star according to scout.com and rivals.com. Also, most Tech fans would say that Roddy Jones was the difference maker in that game and he got downgraded to a 3-star by rivals.com right around the signing day.

There’s an argument about great coaches: do they always have the best players playing for them or do they get the most out of their players. I’ll give you an example: there is no way that Phil Jackson would have not won the NBA championship with the Celtics roster; NO FREAKIN WAY. Bear Bryant “could take his’n and beat you with your’n or take your’n and beat you with his’n.” That’s coaching. That’s CPJ. That’s something we haven’t had on the flats in a long time and quite frankly, something that’s not all that common in NCAA football.

bt

June 16th, 2009
8:14 am

Caleb King was a five star but Dwyer was the only All-American in Georgia that year. If he committed to Georgia he would have been five stars, no doubt in my mind.

Tokyo jacket

June 16th, 2009
8:22 am

bt, thanks for helping me prove my point. Rankings depend largely on who the person was offered by, who the kid is signing with and who that team has already signed. It’s a big snowball effect.

TechLover

June 16th, 2009
8:24 am

I love getting these new recruits!! I hope they will join our tickle piles before and after the game. I especially love the all male piles.

Tech

June 16th, 2009
8:39 am

Exactly Tokyo,

Dwyer was the ACC POY and a darkhorse Heisman contender this year, who I wouldn’t trade for any running back in the country. Georgia fans say, yeah, but Caleb King was a 5 star, like it has anything to do with results on the field.

No Homer Football

June 16th, 2009
8:56 am

GT, according to Rivals is on its way to a great class. With Rivals you have to look at their numerical rankings which range from 5.4-6. [No Homer Football Blog for ACC, GT, SEC, and UGA fans – http://accgtsecuga.blogspot.com.

chad

June 16th, 2009
9:28 am

Scout and Rivals are driven on the number of subscribers they get. Chad Simmons is a ugay beat writer and a writer for the recruiting services as well. With so many pups that think recruiting is another sport they flock to these sources for info. Absolutely they are going to rank ugay players with as many stars as they can. The only recruiting guru I listen to is Jamie Newberg. Take for instance Denzel McCoy for Tech, he has over thirty offers but he is only a three star prospect. Even the nutt lickers can figure that out. There is a bias on the recruiting sites. All the factories have inflated recruiting classes on the star grade.

Bulldawg

June 16th, 2009
9:32 am

All the jackets sign are nerds who cannot play ball. Look at a real recruiting class a little northeast of your trade school.

DAWG FANS UNITE. GO DAWGS! SICK EM!
WOOF WOOF WOOF

LT Dawg

June 16th, 2009
9:43 am

Tokyo, recruiting rankings do matter. Look at the past national champions and roughly where their classes have been ranked (I’ll give you a hint, it’s high). UGA’s recent teams have produced final rankings similar to their recruiting averages. Congrats on the guys you pulled in (especially the S Johnson, he’s a player).

That said, UGA has had a much better week than the Jackets in recruiting(2 top 40 players on Rivals), why am I not surprised that the jackets are the bigger story on the AJC?

hem o'roid

June 16th, 2009
10:12 am

Frank sucks and that’s all I have too say about that. Btw, the jackets will beat the leg humpers unmercifully this year, and many years thereafter.

Another reality

June 16th, 2009
10:18 am

It should also be mentioned that all 7 committments are from the state of Georgia. PJ knows what he’s doing and from the number of UGA fans that downplay it on these blogs it’s very evident PJ has them worried.

the real Old Gold

June 16th, 2009
12:24 pm

“Santa Dawg”… the ‘caps lock’ key is right above ’shift.’

Big Bee

June 16th, 2009
12:45 pm

BULLDAWG, those kidsGT signed could not play ball, but beat UGA. What does that say? Must say UGA coaches are not so hot.

vdawg

June 16th, 2009
1:24 pm

Amazing that tech fans refer to one victory in how many years. They even refer to Florida beating UGA in their arguments. Tech’s class will not be ranked very highly for the same reason as UGA’s, they don’t have many schollys available. That said, Tech will never be able to recruit as UGA does, they don’t have the facilities, the alumni, the fan support, the conference, the college campus, ect…. Ga Tech is not big time football and anyone that goes to a Sat afternoon game there versus just about any SEC game knows it, you think the recruit don’t see that? You are comparing apples and oranges and that’s what hurts Ga Tech fans so much. Deep down inside, you know that you can’t compete on a consistent basis.

Good luck to these recruits, football is temporary, education lasts your lifetime.

GTLouisiana

June 16th, 2009
1:33 pm

“Football is temporary, education lasts your lifetime.”

So, go to Georgia Tech, where even though you might have to work to get a degree that will actually mean something, you can still play football and beat the teams from schools whose “educations” mean nothing…

Sacha Baron Cohen

June 16th, 2009
1:42 pm

Dwyer was graded out at 81 by espn.com, Burnett was a 79, and Derrick Morgan was a 79. Now each is a highly valued NFL prospect. It just goes to show you that developing is just as important if not more important than recruiting. Georgia tech’s season last year reminds me of illinois’s season a couple of years ago. Edged a highly ranked rival in OSU to win the Illibuck trophy then got pasted by USC. One difference is that tech’s offense and defense is better suited to the players. That should be the reason tech will improve next year unlike UI. It is also the reason Tech is such a good school in developing talent. UGA doesn’t develope players as well, which is why matt stafford and knowshon will be nfl busts