Tide won’t lose scholarships as part of sanctions
By DARRYL MAXIE / dmaxie@ajc.com
The NCAA will not force Alabama to surrender any future football scholarships today, when it is expected that the Crimson Tide will be forced to vacate at least 10 wins from 2005-2007, according to a Birmingham News report.
The NCAA action is to punish the school for players who improperly got free textbooks for other students. Additionally, Alabama is expected to be placed under three years’ probation and will be ordered to pay an undisclosed fine.
The wins to be surrendered came while former coach Mike Shula and current coach Nick Saban were in charge.
The violations, which Alabama self-reported, occurred from the 2005-06 school year through the fall of 2007. Five players were suspended when the school uncovered the misdeeds.
The university appeared before the Committee on Infractions in February, admitting that infractions occurred in several sports. Some will suffer stiffer penalties than the vacating wins, the newspaper reported.
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U Gotta B Kidding Me
June 11th, 2009
11:17 am
a slap on the wrist, IMO.
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:20 am
3 years probabtion wont be a slap on the wrist
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:20 am
The will lose recruits
GA Faithful
June 11th, 2009
11:21 am
hardly punishment at all, won’t even affect the school or recruiting. Alabama got off easy!!!!
Typical Barner
June 11th, 2009
11:22 am
ha ha ha ha ha ha! alabama is done forever nick saban will quit tomorrow no recruit want to go there everyone will go two chizdik auburn football for life alabama is dead in the ground waww weagle
Low Country Dawg
June 11th, 2009
11:23 am
they should of got the deaths penalty! give us back the ‘08 blackout game ncaa. we had injured players. not that any other team ever has injuries. goooooo dogs
jdawg
June 11th, 2009
11:24 am
When I go to Lake Burton in a few weeks for the fouth…will stop by Nick’s and see how’s he is handling this…may raise my flag on the boat…yea, UGA
Bamafan
June 11th, 2009
11:24 am
This makes 4 times Alabama has got in trouble with the NCAA in 14 years. Mal Moore needs to retire
and who even was in change of the students getting the textbooks should be FIRED!!
Waww Eagle 34
June 11th, 2009
11:26 am
they should of get the death penalty. saban pay four players. gene chizik love to pop his collar! waww dam weagle! lets rool toomers tonite
Sweet Home Alabama
June 11th, 2009
11:27 am
this is pretty much about nothing.our skolar athletes have always taken there books seriously.just another attempt to shoot down the PRIDE OF THE SEC.
Waww Eagle 34
June 11th, 2009
11:31 am
u spell skolar wrong u bammer!
Paul The Vol
June 11th, 2009
11:32 am
Bama cheats. What else is new?
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:32 am
these new guys coming in will not want to be on 3 years probation. Come on over to UGA
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:34 am
Something that is not noted in the article is that they will be on high alert list until 2014
bamaguy
June 11th, 2009
11:35 am
The editorial in the Birmingham News says it all. Mal Moore should be “allowed” to retire. President Pitts should clean house of the people assigned to monitor NCAA rules.
Bamafan
June 11th, 2009
11:37 am
Paul the Prick Vol your time is coming at UcheaT with boy blunder cheating every week!!
murfdawg
June 11th, 2009
11:43 am
What does three years of probation really mean? No tv, no bowls, no recruiting off campus? Not for Bama. There is too much money involved for Bama, and Saban, not to be the darling of the SEC….again.
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:47 am
Does the probabtion mean no bowls?
bamaguy
June 11th, 2009
11:50 am
Oklahoma was on probation last year when they played for the national championship.
Got 12?
June 11th, 2009
11:53 am
Probation, in this instance, means stiffer penalties if something else happens in the next three years.
Bama discovered the violations, reported them to the NCAA, and suspended the players. What did you want the NCAA to do? Vacating wins is too harsh but Bama was still on probation win this violation occurred.
Sorry, Haters.
SEC
June 11th, 2009
11:53 am
I was unaware oklahoma was on probation
gatorman770
June 11th, 2009
12:03 pm
Another SEC team is punished while the USC “untouchable Trojans” continue to go unpunished by the NCAA for Bush’s mommas free house.
Volman
June 11th, 2009
12:03 pm
It’s not Alabama–it’s Nick Satan. End of story.
SEC
June 11th, 2009
12:06 pm
Its because the teams in the SEC reports their own violations. Not only do you have bush’s mommas house, almost every player from USC tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. They didnt just start taking those just like percy didnt just start smoking
bamaguy
June 11th, 2009
12:16 pm
The ultimate triumph would be to win the National Championship while on probation. And with Nick Saban as coach, and three seasons to try, that is a distinct possibility.
NEXT#13
June 11th, 2009
12:36 pm
Reading the HATE MONGER’S response’s is sad & comical! Do ANY of THE self righteous people of the sec family believe for one minute that THIER beloved school doesn’t have people whom have and/or are doing the same with thier textbook’s?!! All of the DOOM & GLOOM that was SUPPOSED to take place was nothing more than wishful thinking!! We got slapped on the hand,GET OVER IT!! There was NO competitive advantage gained so it’s over!! NOW LET’S GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS OF KICKIN’ SOME FOOTBALL ARSE !!! RRRRROOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL TIDE ROLL!!!! P.S. WHEN I VIEW THESE COMMENT’S……..I CAN SMELL THE FEAR!!!!
Paul The Vol
June 11th, 2009
12:46 pm
Bama Fan, call me all the names you want – after all, that’s what passes for wit from people with a small brain. But Bama Cheats. It’s a proven fact. Again and again and again and so on and so on…
L
June 11th, 2009
12:51 pm
Waww Eagle – before you correct someone, make sure your grammar is correct. Textbooks? Seriously? Let’s punish athletes that get an unfair advantage in the games – athletic ability. Not passing around textbooks they got for free to their friends.
luvya
June 11th, 2009
12:57 pm
Bama students don’t even know how to read anyway.
george
June 11th, 2009
12:59 pm
what a damn joke!!! How many times can alabama be put on “probation” without actually getting in trouble. This has gotten out of control.
cfarris10
June 11th, 2009
1:07 pm
You people should read the facts about all of this before you comment. As soon as Alabama found out about it they suspended the players and self reported. They even asked the NCAA for recommendations on punishment for the players. 36-0 order is restored, Roll Tide
cfarris10
June 11th, 2009
1:09 pm
Oh yeah, and Paul Vol, how the hell can you say anything about cheating, you are a freakin ballandqueer fan. Lane kiffin is a piece of s##t.
Ron Burgundy
June 11th, 2009
1:12 pm
Which AJC headline sounds more sensational? “Joe Montana Jr. spurns UGA” or “Tide won’t lose scholarships as part of sanctions”? Now, ask yourself which is really the bigger deal. I’m talking to you AJC. Stay classy.
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Doyouknowshon
June 11th, 2009
1:18 pm
I am willing to bet Next#13 is missing a couple of teeth and has at least 2 “project cars” on cinderblocks in front of his doublewide.
David
June 11th, 2009
1:27 pm
Tn fans you have a lot of nerve. T Martin is from Mobile. He even admitted he took payoffs. The figure has been thrown around is 10K.
Wasn’t he your national championship QB? We see T all the time so we can’t forget.
jumbeauxtiger
June 11th, 2009
1:27 pm
This is minor. No school can control what every player does. It is what it is. I just don’t see why some bloggers are making this such a big deal.
Geaux Tigers!
Go SEC!
Joe Pa
June 11th, 2009
1:28 pm
I’m sure this is next quote from the sanctimonious Nick Saban: “I guess I’ll have to say it. I’m not going to resigbn as head coach at Alabama.” Anybody want the under on this bet?
Maddog
June 11th, 2009
1:35 pm
Any restrictions during the 3-year probationary period such as no TV or no bowls?
Paul the Vol
June 11th, 2009
1:35 pm
Gee, I forgot all about Tee Martin getting money.
I think I’ll RIP MY SHIRT OFF! UTee WILD BOYZ!
Regis Philbin
June 11th, 2009
1:36 pm
What time is St. Nick saying mass tonight in Tuscaloosa?
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:37 pm
Wait, they already lose bowl games. Please see Sugar Bowl against Utah…..
Let me rephrase that, I hope they are banned from playing in bowl games.
alsim
June 11th, 2009
1:37 pm
“Slap on the wrist”?? Do you people even know the circumstances?
Read before you post.
.
Lt. Dan
June 11th, 2009
1:39 pm
‘Bama should let Forrest Gump run its campus bookstore.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:39 pm
What do you mean by “you people”?
Are you being racist?
Phil Greene
June 11th, 2009
1:39 pm
It is a safe bet that none of the players actually read any of the books, So I say, no harm, no foul. This is ridiculous!
bamabone
June 11th, 2009
1:40 pm
seems fair to me, but i’m sorta biased. now let’s see what happens to USC & Notre Dame…(hint: nothing, ’cause they’re media darlings). by the way, any SEC fan who wishes NCAA sanctions on another SEC team is an a## – no one is clean in this league and everyone walks a tightrope of “minor” violations that could end up ruining a program. as much as i want UT and AU to lose every game they play, i would never wish for them to deal with NCAA sanctions since the entire process of NCAA investigations is so obviously biased against southern schools. RTR!
Where's my free stuff??
June 11th, 2009
1:43 pm
Free shoes at Florida State
Free books at Alabama
Free “dead girlfriend credit cards” at Florida
Free “eligibility (even when you’re ineligible” at Georgia Tech
Free “topless recruiting parties” at Tennessee
WHEN WILL IT END? OOOOH THE HUMANITY!!!
Nachos Fan
June 11th, 2009
1:44 pm
36-0 must still sting….Barners
31-0 at half time must still sting…..Jawja Puppies
29-9 must still sting….Toothless Vols
Need I say more???
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:44 pm
Bamabone – Thank BAMASTAN for every Dawg fan hoping the worst for Nick Saban and the Tide.
31-0 at the half!!!!!!!
16 months off, and already back on!!!!!
bwahahahahaha!
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:45 pm
I’ll be back, gotta go pound it for awhile!
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:45 pm
See what I’m talking about?
Bama gets what they deserve.
Eric Mangini
June 11th, 2009
1:46 pm
Hey Nick…want a second go ’round coaching the DB’s in Cleveland?
Passing the buck
June 11th, 2009
1:48 pm
Looks like Fullmer stuck it to us again! Er, uh, I mean it’s only a matter of time before Kiffin gets his!! Um, I mean, why isn’t USC getting probation? Ummm, and Notre Dame?? Uh, our student athletes are all smart and take calculus at Tech. And Florida, what about them? Meyer is just waiting to leave and Tebow is gone after this year. THAT’S when they’ll get theirs!! Arkansas!! Somethings got to be dirty there because of Petrino. He really screwed the Falcons and Louisville. And what about Ole Miss? Just a heartbeat away from Nutt getting them the death sentence……………………..
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:48 pm
Please let the record show that if I’d made the following statement, “I’ll be back, gotta go pound it for awhile!”, I would’ve spelled “a while” correctly…..
Speaking of, I’ll be right back, gotta go pound it for a while….
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:50 pm
Does the 21-0 at the end of the first half still hurt, perennial probationers?!?!?!
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:50 pm
No toys as a child. That’s why I’m exceptionally endowed.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:51 pm
Correction, Nachos, does 21-0 at the end of the FIRST QUARTER still hurt?
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:51 pm
Did I mention that we were up by 21 at the end of the FIRST QUARTER??
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:51 pm
Gosh, I am so STUPID
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/awhile
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:53 pm
The best you probationers could do was getting spanked 21-0 at the end of the FIRST QUARTER!!!
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:54 pm
FIRST QUARTER, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD??
Nick Saban
June 11th, 2009
1:56 pm
I’ll get to you guys in a minute…..I’m on the other line holding for the AD at Notre Dame.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:57 pm
First
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:57 pm
You know you’re on top when qu#ers post as you.
That’s the only way you tools will get one up on me.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
1:57 pm
Quarter
Mal Moore
June 11th, 2009
1:57 pm
Hold on Nick….I’m waiting for Bear Bryant to pick up the phone.
PaulC
June 11th, 2009
1:58 pm
It’s Bama so it’s only a matter of time before they’re in trouble again. It’s well known that they’re still paying runners to illegally funnel players from Memphis to the Turdstone so I would imagine they’ll eventually get busted for that. These people are inveterate cheaters. It’s in the blood.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
1:58 pm
lol
21
Tommy Tuberville
June 11th, 2009
1:59 pm
Where’s the party tonight?
Nachos Fan
June 11th, 2009
1:59 pm
Utah fans LOVE Nachos = Bitter redneck dawg fan from Winder
Still upset because Wal Mart would not take back his Black Out t-shirt after the Bama/Jawja game. Probably drives a red chevy truck jacked up with a douche bag G sticker on the back window. Has been to Athens once to deliver a pizza so that makes his a Jawja fan.
Crank dat Soulja Boy Richt!!!!
Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:01 pm
Utah fans LOVE Nachos = douchebag dawwwg fan undercover
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:01 pm
Ute don’t know what ute are talking about, Nachos!!
Bottom line on the Bama probation pros & cons
June 11th, 2009
2:01 pm
Bottom line is that no scholarships were lost and Bama still can go to bowl games, still be on tv, still be eligible for the national championship as OU was last year when they played in the title game while on probation,
The single negative is that Bama has to be very careful over the next several years to avoid any major violations such as lack of institutional control. Given the focus that the Bama admin has had regarding running the program since the probation of 2002- 2005 its highly doubtful anything serious like “lack of institutional control” will bite Bama again so even then the probation is going to be more of a paper tiger then anything. The university discovered this problem, self reported, and immediately doled out punishment. That is why the probation does not include serious penalties such as scholarship limitations.
Recruiting opponents will try to use this against Alabama in terms of recruiting but the result will be negligible since Bama will still be on tv, eligible for bowl games, and no scholarships will be reduced.
Much ado about nothing for a couple of kids taking extra books from the bookstore to help out their friends, girlfriends, etc. No money changed hands, no competitive advantage was gained, no extra benefits.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:03 pm
I find it interesting that an Alabama fans such as Nachos calls someone from Georgia (an any state for that matter) a redneck.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:03 pm
Pros & Cons? Seemed to be all cons & no pros…
What’s the deal?
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:04 pm
Bama fans aren’t rednecks, they’re hayseeds.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:04 pm
You’re right, bottom line, saban will still be able to hand out 31 scholarships per year.
NCAA scorekeeper
June 11th, 2009
2:05 pm
Hey WTF??? aka-enforcer,
The count still stands. Georgia and Auburn are tied with several other schools for 3rd most major infractions cases brought against them by the NCAA with 6 major cases each. Alabama has now had 3 major cases brought against it. What was that about people in glass houses throwing stones?
Mike Slive
June 11th, 2009
2:05 pm
“Bottom line” is 100% correct. Love them or hate them, the SEC cannnot afford to have Alabama on probation.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:06 pm
Hey, NCAA scorekeeper, are the numbers of infractions you list about as accurate as those “12″ SEC championships?
Nachos Fan
June 11th, 2009
2:06 pm
Utah fans LOVE Nachos has posted 6 times since his origianl post…HA!!!!
Dang, I must of struck a nerve. Sounds like I may be getting under somebodys skin. Whew!
Better back off or some poor wife will get beat tonight in a trailer park in Winder.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:07 pm
Look, as far as I know there have been no new red z28’s given to any recruits since Herschel.
I’m not throwing stones, I’m slinging boulders thanks to that IDIOT BamaStan.
Thank him
Why, Mike Slive?
June 11th, 2009
2:08 pm
And just why can’t the SEC afford to have Alabama on probation? They haven’t won the SEC in over 10 years. Please explain.
Pros and Cons
June 11th, 2009
2:10 pm
WTF??? AKA ENFORCER,
Bottom line is you’re getting all excited about nothing. Its a slap on the wrist and won’t hurt the Alabama football teams competitiveness whatsoever.
What is wrong with you that you would get so excited about someone else getting in trouble anyway and getting probation?
Dude, I feel sorry for you because that is just flat out pathetic. Rather than pulling for the dawgs to beat Florida and get better you would rather spend your energy and time getting all excited and gleeful over Bama getting probation. That’s very sad.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:10 pm
Read your last post. Now who is actually getting under who’s skin?
Also, I’m not surprised wife-beating is at the front of a Bama fan’s mind.
21-0 at the end of the FIRST QUARTER!!!
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:10 pm
Nachos Fan – you seem to have a vast knowledge of “Redneck attire & activities”… Learned from experience I suppose?
Mike Slive
June 11th, 2009
2:11 pm
Sorry, I mispoke. I meant to say “a probation that costs TV appearances; bowl games, etc.” TONS of money are attached to that for the conference. Hey, I’m not a Bama fan but it is one of the traditional marquee programs in college football.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:12 pm
Pros & Cons – Please read all of my post.
I really could care less, but seeing as how BamaStan has been getting under my skin for going on 8 or 9 months now I think I have the right to return the favor.
31-0 at the half!!!!!
Who’s laughing now
Please elaborate, Mike Slive
June 11th, 2009
2:13 pm
Prior to last year, when was the last time Bama was one of the “marquee programs in college football”. Stallings??
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:13 pm
Oh yeah, I probably should start pulling for the Dawgs to beat Florida…
douche
Nachos Fan
June 11th, 2009
2:14 pm
Hey WTF??? aka – ENFORCER
I do have much experience and vast knowledge of “Redneck attire & activities”……I lived in Loganville, GA douche bag. Home of the bandwagon redneck Jawja fans.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:16 pm
Exactly Slive, Bama was completely irrelevant in the SEC until last year. I think the last time they won the SEC was like 99 or 2000 with DuBose???
Hell, look at Utah. You think they’ll play in a BCS game again next year?
Even a blind suirrel finds a nut every now & then.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:16 pm
I read the history of Loganville, GA. Seems the earliest settlers migrated from Tuscaloosa, AL.
21-0 at the end of the FIRST QUARTER!!
Mike Slive
June 11th, 2009
2:16 pm
Obviously, you missed the word “traditionally”; unless, of course you connotate that word differently than Mr. Webster.
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:17 pm
Nachos Fan – So you do have experience then?
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:17 pm
Nachos – and just why were you kicked out of Loganville, GA??
WTF??? aka - ENFORCER
June 11th, 2009
2:18 pm
Apparently the rednecks in Loganville didn’t do their job, where I come from we whip smartasses such as yourself & teach them some manners.
Utah fans LOVE Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:19 pm
Enter your comments here
Nachos
June 11th, 2009
2:20 pm
Utah fans LOVE Nachos – has anyone ever called u a douchebag?
Also, can u mention 21-0 one more time? I am thinking your a barner.
Chizz loves to pop his collar
oh yeah 21-0 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee