Georgia Tech’s Paul Johnson lands second recruit from Georgia, DB Fred Holton
Thomasville DB Fred Holton
Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson has hinted that next year’s recruiting class may be entirely comprised of prospects from the state of Georgia. Thomasville safety Fred Holton is Georgia Tech’s second commitment, following in the footsteps of Collins Hill tailback Charles Perkins.
“Georgia Tech is my dream school, I just wanted to go ahead and get it out of the way,” said Holton, who picked the Jackets over offers from Central Florida, Kansas State and Ole Miss. He also had emerging interest from Georgia and Clemson.
VIDEO: Click here to see Holton (#15) in action on the field (Note: This is a .wav file)
“Coach Johnson was telling me I had a scholarship offer, and another safety had an offer. He has a minimum amount of scholarship offers, and he would rather me commit now than later. He said it wouldn’t be good for me to wait too long. Say I get injured at spring practice? That could be a reason for some colleges to drop me. If I went ahead and committed to Georgia Tech, then my scholarship would be there, even if I got injured .. [However], in the end, it was always going to be Georgia Tech, no matter what.”
The 6-foot-1, 195-pound Holton said Tech was his top choice all along because of academics. He could’ve held out longer for more offers, but didn’t feel the need because he already had the scholarship letter he wanted.
Last month, Georgia Tech signed 14 in-state players, the largest haul since 1992. “The state is very important,” Johnson said. “We wanted to try to make an emphasis on that, and we have. There’s a chance we may take everybody in-state this year [with our 2010 scholarships]. We may take them all from Georgia.”
Georgia Tech expects to sign between 12-15 players next year, and already has two Georgia-based commitments. Said Johnson, ““We’re one of the two bigger in-state schools and we need to make sure that we are very thorough here. Now does that mean we won’t go outside? No. But if we are going outside of the state, those guys need to be remarkably better than the guys we can find in the state. As long as we can find guys with what we need academically in the state, there is no use to bypass them for somebody else.”
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GeoffDawg
March 29th, 2009
11:15 pm
Curious that the state’s #2 prospect didn’t have offers from any elite programs.
wiley
March 29th, 2009
11:39 pm
he is not the number two prospect…he is a espnu 150 watchlister, but what the story headline means is” the second Georgia Tech prospect to commit for the class of 2010″. I think Fred will be end up being a four or five star on rivals once they evaluate him. If you look right now he is a one star but he has not been evaluated yet. Go Jackets…Lets get a good class for 2010.
Dawggone it
March 29th, 2009
11:50 pm
GeoffDawg, I agree. If he didn’t get an offer from Georgia, he can’t be an elite prospect. Georgia Tech only gets our leftovers in this state. They beat us once out of eight years, and they can’t even break into Tailer Jones’ top 15 … lolololololololol
Woof
March 29th, 2009
11:52 pm
A ONE STAR prospect? HAHAHAHAHAH. Tech’s ‘10 recruiting class may finished lower than this year’s if that’s possible. Maybe the bugs will crack the top 75 on Scout and Rivals.
TMAC
March 30th, 2009
1:21 am
i love how the doggies are scared of tech so they feel they have to come on this blog and trash an 18 year old kid and his choice of college….still, i needed a good laugh idiots. 45-42
GTchemE
March 30th, 2009
1:31 am
One star means he hasn’t been evaluated yet, morons. Why are ya’ll so frantic to diss an 18 year old that wants to go to tech “because of academics”, and especially when he had “emerging interest from Georgia and Clemson”? Admit for once that you may have lost out on this one. I look forward to him following in the footsteps of great safeties like Morgan Burnett and running interceptions back for touchdowns against ya’ll yearly.
Stevie
March 30th, 2009
1:51 am
Fred is ranked as one-star by the genuises at Dawgpost. Chad Simmons really knows his stuff. Boy he loves prospects that Georgia is recruiting. That’s all he writes about as a so-called “Southeastern Recruiting Analyst.” What a joke. He never gives Georgia Tech any love. His best friend is Rodney Garner. They talk every day plotting pro-Georgia propaganda for the Scout rankings.
Lars Taint
March 30th, 2009
6:15 am
Wiley
You really have no clue what you are talking about. Rivals has already done their initial evaluation of 2010 recruits and released the top 250. Guess who’s not in it. This guy, like almost every other Tech recruit, is 3 stars at best.
Robert
March 30th, 2009
6:22 am
I am happy for this young man but don’t like coaches pressuring HS Jr’s to commit so soon. I understand GT has a limited number of scholarships for next year but this is the biggest decision these players have ever had to make. Don’t rush them and then pull their offer later if they decide to visit another school (as GT did this year). I wish Fred Holton the best at GT, except when they play UGA or FSU (my teams).
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Mr. Skynyrd
March 30th, 2009
6:44 am
Hey Wiley, your going to have to type slower so the dawgs that troll the Tech blogs can keep up. They don’t read well, and comprehension? Forget it.
Congratulations Fred. You picked a great school and a great coach. You and your family should be proud.
Don’t listen to all these flea infested dawgs – nobody else does. They’re an inbred breed on the decline.
GA Tech Insider
March 30th, 2009
6:45 am
For those who know nothing about Fred, he has loved GA Tech all along and it has been has been the team he has want to play for since he was but a wee lad.
Fred is a fine young man, from a great family, and for those of you questioning his talents, well I would say to all of you is to stay tuned. Fred will be a star down in South Georgia, but will probably receive little press because he has already commited to GA Tech.
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
7:02 am
Fred is a 17 year old from a small South Georgia town. I always felt that he wasn’t getting the looks he deserved. It’s funny that after every game the opposing coach always asked, “Who’s #15.” He’s a phenomenal player who works hard and has a great attitude. I would like to know how someone can judge a person without ever meeting him. The best thing all you naysayers can do is—Watch and see. And no he has not been evaluated by espn or anyone else. Thanks for your interest. Go Jackets!!!!!!
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
7:10 am
Robert in speaking with Fred, I don’t think he was “pressured”; however, he asked the Coach for the pros and cons of committing early. One of the examples the coach gave was, “In the event you get hurt during spring practice, you would still have the scholarship.” This wasn’t a tool used solely to recruit him. Just a little clarification. Also, Fred really likes Georgia and has the utmost respect for Coach Mike Bobo; nonetheless he can’t help how the Georgia fans “speak for the school.” He has never said anything negative about his recruiting experience with Georgia. Like Fred, these Coaches can choose who they like. A good Coach is not going to select a player, even if he is good and highly ranked, if he doesn’t need him.
Lars Taint
March 30th, 2009
7:17 am
I’m not trying to be a jerk. I just get annoyed when people make these claims that have no facts to support them. The fact is that Rivals released thier top 250 for 2010 and Holton was not in it. This means he most definitely won’t be a 5 star on Rivals and will most likely be at best a 3 star. The ESPN 150 watch list has over 600 players on it, including 60 safeties. I don’t think he would be on a watch list based on word of mouth. I promise you the recruiting services have evaluated his high school film. I’m sure this kid is a great high school player and I wish him luck, but be realistic on his status as a college recruit.
Dawg Fan
March 30th, 2009
7:24 am
Congrats to Fred on getting to play for his dream school, that is what this article is about. Having said that,
THWGT!!!
PeligroPero
March 30th, 2009
7:32 am
Thomas Davis was from a small rural town with little regard from the “expert” rating guys. He worked out fairly well for our beloved Dawgs. This kid is a good athlete and a good student. I’m sorry UGA didn’t find him first.
Reebok
March 30th, 2009
7:44 am
I enjoy a little trash talking about football as much as anybody, but come on…Georgia ‘fans’ who come onto a Tech recruiting blog to trash an 18 year-old who is committing early to his self-proclaimed ‘dream school…’ Grow up and get a little class, people.
elwoodGT
March 30th, 2009
7:48 am
LOL, recruiting smack, from a Dawg. That’s funny.
Oh yeah. Scoreboard.
gt
March 30th, 2009
7:57 am
The guy is a good player, people get too caught up on stars these days. Outside of the top 1 – 3 players at each position, there isn’t much difference. A D-1 athlete is a D-1 athlete. It is all about how you coach them up and how hard they want to work.
Raleigh
March 30th, 2009
7:57 am
I guess Georgia Southern will have to dismantle their football program now that Johnson is taking all the players who would have ended up there.
hiveredtech
March 30th, 2009
8:04 am
I have never seen UGA fans so interested in GT recruiting. I know I do not follow UGA’s…or Duke’s, Vandy’s, etc. They are obviously scared of something…and that something is what Paul Johnson is doing.
Those numbers….45 to 42….just keep ringing in their ears.
exNFLplayer
March 30th, 2009
8:14 am
I know that talent matters, but I also know that there are a lot of superb athletes that never see the lofty recruit ratings. The Thomas Davis comparison above was right on target. If there has been a college safety that made more of an impact on his team and opposing offenses than Thomas Davis, I haven’t seen him. Also when I was playing High School ball in upstate NY I wasn’t even a blip on any college’s radar screen. After moving south for my last 2 years I managed a scholarship to an SEC school and had 6 years in the league. Personally I think this Holton kid is one of those that will play way above whatever ranking these recruiting services may lay on him. The kid’s a tremendous athlete.
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
8:21 am
So if you’re a Tech Recruit, and you get hurt in your junior or senior year of HS, CPJ will say uh, never mind we don’t need you.
But if you’re a UGA recruit, and you Break your leg, in your senior season, CMR, say’s you’re my guy and we want you just as much now as we wanted you in the beginning, it’s not a issue.
Give me CMR every time….
Tell’em what they want to hear; and by all means, put all the pressure you can on kids to commit early CPJ, typical POS representative of the plumbers school
wiley
March 30th, 2009
8:22 am
lars can you click on the link i provided…he is on the espnu 150 watchlist and he has not been evaluated by rivals yet, that is why all his rankings say PR and he is a one star. Just accept this, he is a great player and will be in the final espn u 150 rankings.
wiley
March 30th, 2009
8:25 am
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=70823&season=2010?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d70823%26season%3d2010
BobinBuford
March 30th, 2009
8:28 am
Michael:
Thanks for finally doing a post on GT recruiting, considering the fact that of the 10 most recent posts, 7 have been about UGA, including video of a placekicker that Saint Richt has recruited.
Is it possible for AJC to get someone who is at least remotely interested in the GT football program to start posting articles here?
Hey Lars – those 3 star recruits at Tech beat your 4 and 5 star recruits last year. It isn’t the amount of stars you have, it’s what you do with those players that counts. I guess you found that out last November.
BobinBuford
March 30th, 2009
8:31 am
Wiley:
The accompanying article is about some offensive lineman, not Holton.
Nice work, ESPN.
DogsDrool
March 30th, 2009
8:32 am
UGA fans are so very humorous. They are so classless they think Mark Richt is classy. The rest of the country sees him for what he is, a hypocritical jerk. If his prayers were any good don’t you think UGA would have won a NC in the last 7 years?
wiley
March 30th, 2009
8:38 am
I realize this bobin but the top says Fred T. S and if you look on the actual ESPN 150 U he is on the list. Geez!
Maddog
March 30th, 2009
8:41 am
Not trying to stir the pot here, but I do wonder what would happen if this kid did sustain a serious injury as he mentioned. Tech only has 12 to 15 schollys slated for next year, so it would be tempting for CPJ to look for a healthy alternative. I hope it doesn’t come to that because I never want to see an athlete’s career cut short by an injury.
Big Pappi
March 30th, 2009
8:42 am
Lars Taint, Don’t tak so much stock in these recruiting services. They are much more for the fan then college coaches recruiting players. Most recruiters are’n't even looking at these sites. Sure they get the obvious one’s, combine participants Etc., but for the most part the differece in the talent level of most of these D-1 recruits is marginal. I will take D-1 student-athlletes that are Hard working, characther players, with high grades. How many stars for those kids?
MinnesotaJacket
March 30th, 2009
8:46 am
Tech fans..I know what you are thinking its another typical Georgia remarks…nothing has changed or ever will…here is what Im going to say on the either way….Fred if your a 5 star thats awesome if they rank you a 3 star thats awesome because let me tell you if you can lay the hammer like that video shows…I don’t doubt your going to be a great player because that is what TECH does…we take good player and MAKE them great…where at UGA they may get get great players who stay where they are never getting any better than what they come in at, also just FYI for everyone Morgan Burnett was ranked at 79 by espn and was barely on their top 150 and he turned out QUITE WELL….
Josh H
March 30th, 2009
8:46 am
WePeeYellow2:
Care to make anything else up while you’re at it?
There are coaches who consistently offer more than they can take. Butch Davis, Nick Saban, and Houston Nutt come to mind. Paul Johnson doesn’t. If you accept an offer to Tech, it is an agreement. Just look at Aycock, Dontae from last year.
Maddog
March 30th, 2009
8:47 am
FWIW, I don’t put a lot of validity into the entire top 150. I mean think about it – what if this kid is ranked #162. Is there really a lot of difference between #162 and, say, #144? Sure, #144 can boast he is in the top 150, but what really distinguishes him from some of the other players slightly below him. I just don’t see it.
GeeTee
March 30th, 2009
8:48 am
Hey Raleigh: What do you have against Ga So???
Lars Taint
March 30th, 2009
8:53 am
I never said that he won’t be good. I never said that recruiting rankings or stars mean anything. I was just responding to Wiley’s claim that he will be a 4 or 5 star recruit on Rivals. He will not. Rivals has realeased the top 250 and his is not on the list. The ESPN 150 to watch has over 600 players on the list and he is one of 60 safties on that list. He will most likely not be in the actual ESPN 150 when it is realeased. He may very well be the next Thomas Davis, I was just pointing out how wrong Wiley is for saying he was going to be such a highly sought after recruit.
Mike
March 30th, 2009
9:05 am
Thrilled Fred Holton is going to Georgia Tech and looking forward to seeing him play on Saturdays.
Maddog
March 30th, 2009
9:09 am
truegold92 – I agree that recruits don’t tell the entire story of a particular team, but it certainly has some correlation. UGA has a top 10 recruiting class virtually every year and they consistently end the season ranked in the top 10. That may not mean much to you, but I do see how it influences your standing within the final rankings. I don’t view our program as a failure and I don’t see how others could as well.
Hmmmmm
March 30th, 2009
9:11 am
All you dawg fans, keep on believing those stars MEAN anything… GT will keep beating you with CPJ and those recruits you call leftovers….
MoDawg
March 30th, 2009
9:15 am
He sounds like a good kid and I wish him the very best. Just because he is not on all the big lists of elite prospects doesn’t mean he isn’t or won’t be. I hope most of the “sour grapes” from UGA fans on here are in jest.
UGA will get who they really want and this kid sounds like he wanted to go to Tech all along, so good for him and good for Tech. Let’s wish him the best and move on. The “prospect star ranking” superiority last year didn’t help us, did it? They’ll get theirs and w’ll get ours and then we can settle it on the field.
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
9:19 am
I tried that video link posted above but it got blurry half way through. Here’s a better link for highlights.
http://www.bulldogprospects.com/class_of_2010.htm
I wish Fred well this season. Gosh people–play nice.
Gerald Ball
March 30th, 2009
9:22 am
You Georgia Bulldog fans are unbelievable. First off, despite all the top 5 recruiting classes that UGA brings in year after year, UGA is never in the national title hunt and is only rarely in the SEC title chase. Second, how come so few Bulldogs go to the NFL under Richt? Jim Donnan was actually better at developing NFL talent … Hines Ward, Champ and Boss Bailey, 3 #1 picks on the DL (Seymour, Stroud, Grant). You UGA fans do a lot of yapping to win 2 more games and send maybe 2 more players to the NFL each year than Tech does. And now that Tech has a coach who doesn’t even need top talent to win games (the fellow went 45-29 at NAVY), it means that he doesn’t even need to waste his time going head to head for the next 5 star recruit that will go to UGA, play uninspiring football for 3-4 years (if that long) and is never heard from again. He can go after 2-3 star recruits that A) will actually become good college players in their system, which isn’t a “pro – style” system anyway and B) can meet Georgia Tech’s academic requirements.
The best part: Georgia Tech doesn’t delude themselves into thinking that they are going to win a national title. They are shooting for an ACC title about once ever 3-4 years, and with Johnson they can accomplish that. It is UGA fans that delude themselves into thinking that they are ever going to out recruit the LSUs, Alabamas, and Floridas and outcoach the Meyers and Sabans (and this speaks nothing of the Carrolls, Tressels, Stoops, Browns etc. in other conferences) and have to face the cold hard fact that you guys are just a second tier program with a second tier coach after all. So now UGA fans are reduced to bragging about their CONFERENCE. Wow. Well UGA fans, if you were in the Big 12 you’d be #3 behind Texas and Oklahoma, and if you were in the Pac-10 you’d be #2 behind USC, and if you were in the Big 10 you’d be #2 behind Ohio State, and even if you were in the ACC or Big East, you’d be behind FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech and West Virginia the years that they are good. Why do I say this? Because when was the last time UGA beat a team like that? When was Georgia’s last victory over a top 10 nonconference team? (If you are going to trot out Hawai’i, that just shows how pathetic you are, as Hawai’i isn’t even one of the stronger mid – majors like Utah, Boise, or TCU … and by the way FSU was only 9-5 plus without their starting QB in that 2002 Sugar Bowl.)
So UGA fans, have fun waiting on Urban Meyer, Les Miles and Nick Saban to leave the conference so you guys can finally have a shot at winning something more meaningful than an afterthought SEC title in a down year. You UGAers may shoot for the stars, but the truth is that you don’t even hit the moon any more than Georgia Tech does. And since Tech has all of these barriers to success (academics, small campus/alumni, a general unwillingness to recruit players that we know will flunk out and/or break the law, and a disdain for going on probation) what is your excuse for being a blip on the college football radar when your starting tailbacks aren’t named Herschel?
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
9:23 am
MinnesotaJacket… (that is what TECH does…we take good player and MAKE them great…where at UGA they may get get great players who stay where they are never getting any better than what they come in at)
LOL, you are by far the dumbest tech fan I read so far. How do you explain 1 for 8 then? Where were all these GREAT tech players then?
Explain Reggie Ball!
Hey I get it, tech taught Reuben Houston how to grow pot, that’s why he had 100lbs of the stuff right? Or even better yet, the tech coaching staff helped Jerrard Tarrant learn to do dirty deeds to women right?
Maybe tech taught Joe Hamilton how to drink and drive, wow what a great place to get an education?
MinnesotaJacket- pwned!
GA Tech Insider
March 30th, 2009
9:27 am
Here, once again, we have a story of a young man who has committed to a High Level Academic and Football program, coming out of South Georgia, excited about his future, and most of you see fit to act like 12-year- old spoiled brats.
If most of you had half the ambition or class that Fred did, you’d be congratulating this young man for doing well in school and getting his opportunity to go to College and play sports at the next level at the place he really wanted to attend, no matter where it might have been.
There are too many kids out there who are spending time ignoring the classroom and ending up on the streets today and here you people go, once again, acting like fools.
Fred, welcome to GA Tech, son. I can’t speak for everyone, but I can tell you that most of us on these blogs are really happy for you and proud of your accomplishments. Congratulations and keep up the good work. We look forward to seeing you on Bobby Dodd Stadium in 2010!
JB
March 30th, 2009
9:29 am
Well leghumpers, we whipped you jokes 33-14 in second half right off the field with a bunch of 2 and 3 star recruits! So what does that say? It says that it doesn’t matter what a recruiting service says about how many stars, or where a magazine says you finished! Take a lesson from what just happened, beacuse 19 of the same kids that tooled you in athens, will be back to stick it to you in atlanta without stafford and moreno!! Your defense sucks! If you guys recruit so great, where are all those national championships idiots? We have 4 of them to your 1, you we could spot you a few to make you feel like real champions. But hey, you guys are paper champs and FORMER PRESEASON CHAMPS! How did that workout for you losers? OVERRATED, OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
45-42, CPJ IS 1-0 WITH MANY MORE TO COME!!!! This guy has stuck it to his rivals, his entire career, let the crying begin in athens!! You jokes just keep baggin your sisters and pay your lot rent at the trailor park sites!!!! GG JACKETS!
Dawgs21
March 30th, 2009
9:32 am
I try not to read past the article on most of the updates. The flame wars that ensue are always childish and make BOTH sides look like a bunch of idiots and whiney 10 year old school girls. It seems though as they are usually started by the Techies (at least on the dawg articles), but this time it was us who started it.
Embarrassing…….. Congrats, this guy looks like a good player.
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
9:33 am
Gerald Ball, win the ACC? You retards can’t win the coastal division. Uh, under CMR, UGA has been MUCH more successful than Tech, connective top 10 rankings, connective 10 win seasons, and two sec championships.
Ya know the funny thing about UGA’s number one ranking, deservedly or un-deservedly, UGA is part of the conversation, Tech isn’t even parking cars at the event where the conversation is taking place.
So BUZZZZ all you want, your inferiority complex is showing.
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
9:36 am
http://southernphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/6644524_6BwKd#P-2-24
http://southernphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/5798700_V7PA3#361982422_cGwVF
Good sites to get a good look at Fred.
texaswreck
March 30th, 2009
9:46 am
I admit it- UGA has a better football team year in and year out than GT does, but so what?? We recruit athletes who meet our academic standards and so does UGA- which means we get fewer recruits eligible than they do because their standards are lower. They do not have to be higher for family studies, phys ed, or the other majors where they hide their athletes. College football is not about college education, it is about big time money. Georgia has a lot more alums due to size and ease of entry and certain academic studies, more athletic money because of the emphasis on fund raising and selling status to rich alums within the AD. I accept all of this and enjoy it. Tech will never get the great athletes who are stupid, and I can live with that. Insults from UGA types don’t bother me at all, considering the source. My brother went to UGA and I know he could have gone to Tech because he is very smart, but he does not insult me like these UGA posters because he has class as well, something a lot of his brethren are sorely missing. After all, folks, believe it or not, it is only a game.
Who and what you are is not reflected by your team’s results. Get a grip.
sswinfordawg
March 30th, 2009
9:47 am
Good job PJ. Tech will pick up a good recruit every now and then (ex: Calvin Johnson). This kid looks to have good character and that is really what techies should be interested in. This kid will pan out to be a 3 or 4 star recruit and will probably be the star of GT’s 2010 class. On the other hand he is the perfect size for a safety and from Thomasville (a skip and a jump away from FSU) and didn’t get an offer from FSU. He has 1 offer from a big time school, Ole Miss, and lets be honest. Who hasn’t got a offer from Ole Miss? I mean they had like 50 to 100 in their 2009 class. This kid could pan out to be a really good player but as of right now I feel like PJ took a gamble on him. Only time will tell.
Oh yeah and one star means he hasn’t really been evaluated but no evaluation also means he hasn’t been doing much in games to draw attention to himself. Just some food for thought.
the real Old Gold
March 30th, 2009
9:57 am
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080911062420AABcMXT
truegold92
March 30th, 2009
9:57 am
And now “WEE PEE” wants to talk about problems with the law? Are you kidding me? Your players have their own wing at the Clarke county Jail! You can’t be serious when you accuse Tech players of being taught to break the law! Not only do you get the most wanted recruits,2/3 of your recruits are on the most wanted list! Sweep your own door first you idiot! TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!
cincyjacket
March 30th, 2009
10:04 am
WePeeYellow2-
Could you explain to me what exactly “connective top 10 rankings, connective 10 win seasons” are? What are they connected to? It’s really great to see that UGA has so many foreign fans. English clearly isn’t your native language.
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
10:05 am
truegold92, it’s apples and oranges; UGA(underage drinking) GT(Sodomy, Possession, DUI, Hit&Run) yea GT has the cream of the criminal crop, and who’s the idiot?
LSU fan
March 30th, 2009
10:07 am
Wow, is that picture in the AJC Coach Johnson. Look at it again and tell me that is not a ‘limp wristed’ Elvis. 38-3
willford brimley
March 30th, 2009
10:07 am
I’m a dawg fan, and I’m happy to hear this kid gets to play for his dream school.
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
10:09 am
cincyjacket, are you truly too dumb to know I meant “Consecutive” I mean I know you got your diploma when they threw it through the car window while you were going to working at the varsity, Even Reggie Ball isn’t that dumb.
Maddog
March 30th, 2009
10:11 am
texaswreck – I accept the good natured ribbing that goes back and forth, but the “academic” argument for your athletes is about as meaningful and lasting as a fart in the wind. As you put it, “get a grip”.
Just a few months ago the AJC did an article about the academics at both UGA and GT and how both schools accept athletes who do not score as well as the average student. Not only are a ridiculously small amount of Tech’s athletes majoring in Engineering, the SAT scores of athletes at Tech averaged 79 points higher than UGA’s. That hardly supports the “academic superiority” of GT’s athletes. This is significant for two reasons:
First, if you had two children and one scored 79 points higher than the other, would you consider your child with the lower score to be “dumb”?
Second, do you measure a person’s intelligence just by their SAT score? I cannot believe any rational person would do so.
Let’s face it, ALL D-1 schools who offer scholarships bend the rules for athletes.
cincyjacket
March 30th, 2009
10:13 am
Criminal Charges upheld against active players:
2008: UGA: DUI x2, Carrying concealed, Fighting, Reckless Driving, Drinking, Pissing, and property destruction
GT: Nothing
2007: “For almost two long months, Charles Rogers says he’s had to grit his teeth and wait for authorities to file charges against a University of Georgia football player who, along with several other college kids, allegedly stripped him of his clothes, beat him and then urinated on him during a Memorial Day weekend attack at Lake Allatoona. ”
+ lots of bad driving and drinking
Georig Tech: Nothing
cincyjacket
March 30th, 2009
10:15 am
WePeeYellow2-
You don’t know the difference between Connective and Consecutive (twice nonetheless!) and you are calling me dumb? I would say that your UGA diploma is doing well for you, but I doubt you even have a GED.
ATL Dawg
March 30th, 2009
10:17 am
I have ONE question for all you Techies that have come out of the woodwork since you finally was able to beat UGA – If you get your collective tails whipped by UGA next year will everyone of you Tech guys that are one here now PLEASE show up on this forum next year? I highly doubt you guys will be on here if that happens. I suspect you will go bak into hiding. Time will tell.
PTC DAWG
March 30th, 2009
10:23 am
Good luck to the kid.
And to the Techster who thinks UGA doesn’t compete in the SEC, get a grip.
MtnBama
March 30th, 2009
10:23 am
Paul Johnson will dominate Georgia. With Georgia unable to compete with Florida and Ga. Tech CMR will be looking for work in a couple of years.Having Jesus on his staff will not save him after Tech thumps his hypocritical butt a few years running.
Wildcats Rock
March 30th, 2009
10:28 am
Johnson needs to look at John Ansley from Apalachee. The school runs the same type offense and would fit weel into Techs.
Buzzman
March 30th, 2009
10:30 am
I saw a GT recruiting show on Wed last. GT & UGA baseball was rained out. They decide to show an abbreviated version of the 2008 GT & UGA game. Dawg fans don’t think for a minute that these Ga kids are not paying attention to shift of balance of power in this state. 45 – 42. Still sounds good !!
GT Fan
March 30th, 2009
10:31 am
Fred Holton, Welcome to GT! Look forward to seeing you play.
Poorjeff
March 30th, 2009
10:42 am
mtn Bama: GT has Jesus on its staff too Bro. That has nothing to do with the big picture. I hope we all have Jesus on our staff, if not we’re in trouble. We all sin.
WePeeYellow2
March 30th, 2009
10:46 am
cincyjacket, I thought you were dumb, now I KNOW your dumb
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/06/30/georgia_tech_tarrant_rape.html (2008)
http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/sports/gatech/stories/2008/05/06/techburst_0507.html (2008)
Player cleared on weapons charge
http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/070408/football_20080704029.shtml
Get your facts straight, stupid, yeah that plumbers degree is serving you well isn’t it?
bwell
March 30th, 2009
10:48 am
Fred I wish you the best. He is a leftover, if he hadn’t receive an offer from Ga then he is not worth it! Tech suck, they lucked up once every 7 or 8 years with a win, anybody that knows football; the second year is tuffer, coach Johnson triple threat will go down for sure this year and it will be the same old song with Tech, finding the right coach.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 30th, 2009
10:53 am
ATL Dawg, I have ONE question for you – If you get your tail whipped by Tech next year will everyone of you UGAG guys that are one here now PLEASE show up on this forum next year? Oh, wait, I know the answer to that: YES, YOU WILL—-WHINING and MAKING EXCUSES and DISSING TECH players and fans again. That’s all you guys know how to do. GET A LIFE!!!
And to WePeeYello, UGAG WAS part of the conversation in the past. Now, nobody outside Athens takes you guys seriously. You will NEVER beat Urban Meyer, no matter how many prayers Sister Mark of the Order of Hypocrites offers up.
And for you to bring up Jerrard Tarrant’s name shows what a worthless piece of s**t you are. The boy was totally exonerated; all charges were dropped. I guess you probably still think the Duke Lacrosse players are guilty of something too. Go back to the cesspool and wallow in it with all the other losing mutts.
cincyjacket
March 30th, 2009
11:03 am
WePeeYellow2-
I know that English isn’t your first language, so I won’t hold it against you too much, but I said clearly in the first line of my post: “Criminal Charges upheld against active players”. When did Joe Ham play? Is he still an active player? Oh wait no, he played in the 90’s, 10 years ago.
Tarrant was also cleared of all charges. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/sports/gatech/stories/2009/02/11/tarrant_georgiatech.html
Yeah, I’ll strike the weapons charge off the list, but it’s still a little one sided, don’t you think? I think even a first grader could tell you that 7 is more than 0.
GTman
March 30th, 2009
11:04 am
I get a kick out of the loser UGA fans needing a forum to downplay GT’s success. 45-42 IN YOUR HOUSE – We own you now and so does UF. Forget about winning the SEC, the SEC East, and the state of Georgia.
Maddog, I think the article said that the average GT football player’s IQ is 79 points higher than the average mutt football player. I know it’s the case for student body to student body!
UGAy SUX – THWG!
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
11:04 am
Wow! It’s said to see that some people are working really hard to make this blog about them. What does the actions of others have to do with Georgia Tech recruiting Holton? Holton has made good choices and I believe he will continue to do so. Judge a man solely on his character not on the dumb choices others have made. Morals and values should already be embedded, if not innately fixated, in a player before they even come under the tutelage of a Coach. Don’t blame the Coaches for a player’s actions off the field. Let’s get back to the subject. bwell you are just unstable. How do you wish a man good luck and in the same breath call him leftover. Keep your well wishes–they are meaningless.
Crosby
March 30th, 2009
11:06 am
Weepeeyellow, maybe you should get your facts straight as well. Tarrant was cleared of all charges and is cleared to play again. He didn’t just lose two games against meaningless teams. He lost an entire season and now carries this with him because of idiots like you. You may want to be careful what you try and claim about a person on a public forum. Wouldn’t want you to get sued for slander.
Wendy
March 30th, 2009
11:08 am
http://www.bulldogprospects.com/class_of_2010.htm
http://southernphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/6644524_6BwKd#P-2-24
http://southernphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/5798700_V7PA3#361982422_cGwVF
WePeeYellow2(o.k.) here are some sites for you to check out–opposed to the ones you have listed.
Big Bee
March 30th, 2009
11:11 am
To all critics above: I am just so happy that GT picks their own players and do not rely on Scout or Rivals. It dosen’t matter if Holton had 27 stars and240 offers, he would not be worth a tinker’s Damn if UGA fans were doing the evalutation!!!
AMG
March 30th, 2009
11:28 am
To all UGA fans, Tech will settle all disputes on the field this year and the next and the next. Just learn to accept the next several years of losses as an indication you are the third best football program in the state. Hope for your sake that Emory does not start one. Tech clearly has the best football program in state followed by Georgia Southern. TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!
exNFLplayer
March 30th, 2009
11:32 am
Enter your comments here
gt
March 30th, 2009
11:37 am
I’m a Tech fan. But some of you Tech fans need to stop with “our 2 and 3 starts beat your 5 stars” stuff. Nesbitt, Dwyer, Burnett, Richard, Morgan, Thomas, etc. are not 2 and 3 stars. They were big time recruits (at least 4 stars) and we need to bring in more guys like them. All of those guys were Gailey’s recruits.
DDT
March 30th, 2009
11:38 am
Texaswreck obviously you are about as stupid as Reggie Ball and the 11 ineligibles that had to be funneled through non degree producing courses just to keep their dumbazzes eligible. But you gotta give tech points for creativity on that one. Too bad for the kids though, some of who had 5 years on campus and less than 2 years toward a degree. Yeah buddy! You guys really run a tight ship over at the trade school.
By the way. Tech will finish 3rd in the coastal this year. VT and UNC will mop the floor with you girls. CPJ can’t carry Beamer or Butch Davis’ jockstrap.
Reality Check....
March 30th, 2009
11:44 am
These negative comments by both sides are sad. We hate you and you hate us. Period. I believe it is not “clean ole fashioned hate” it’s just “HATE”. Most of the remarks on here can be disputed and proven wrong. Fact is CPJ gets it and he sounds alot like CMR when it comes to recruiting Georgia. I for one am very proud of our home grown kids and their High School Coaches. I appreciate what CMR did with his clinics for these coaches. I believe it help all the colleges in this state. Everyone needs a reality check…
DDT
March 30th, 2009
11:45 am
Great point gt. That class was ranked top 10. Maybe it does matter. Huh girls.
Reality Check....
March 30th, 2009
11:45 am
AMG needs a reality check now!!!
gt
March 30th, 2009
11:46 am
DDT-good one, I mean that was like two coaches ago and Tech’s only NCAA infraction in its history but whatever helps you sleep better at night.
Joey Porter
March 30th, 2009
11:52 am
seems like he is ready to work for chippendales. Wasn’t there a picture of him fully clothed available?
Chucky
March 30th, 2009
11:52 am
How can you say that about Dawgpost? UGASports confirmed with CMR himself and said that Kwame Geathers did not have a Georgia offer. Where did Kwame sign? Remind me? Every time the Georgia athletic department plane takes off, they make up stories about meeting with basketball coaches. They delete it every time they are wrong, which is all the time.. That’s why I’ve started a file printing out everything they get wrong and try to hide. I’m taking all the evidence to important people. Dawgpost and TotalUGA are so much more reliable, if you’re going to pay for any of that crap.
GT fans lost in space
March 30th, 2009
11:53 am
38-3, LOL!!! Yeah, you’re an up and coming program. Beating UGA once every 8 years is all that matters. 38-3, LOL!!
Mr. B
March 30th, 2009
11:54 am
yes, you dawg fans are correct.. Tech finally beat you over the last 7 years… yeah, that means its not really a rival like Florida is to you. Oh, wait.. Georgia has beaten Florida less ??? WOW.. I guess that means your less of a rival to them than us, using your Georgia University logic!! Interesting…
gt
March 30th, 2009
11:55 am
“Chucky” – nobody cares about Dawgpost or whatever you are talking about.
DDT
March 30th, 2009
11:59 am
But at least you did that violation all the way gt. What was it? The biggest academic fraud case in ACC history? And you have to really be going hard to cheat better than Miami and FSU. And by the way. Has that non-existent drug testing and disfunctional treatment program that goes with it gotten any better. That’s another facet to tech’s effort to keep em eligible. But I guess it has improved somewhat. Nobody has died this year. Yet.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 30th, 2009
12:04 pm
You know you’re a redneck when you post crap on your rival’s website. Do you guys post on the Gators’ website too? How about Bama’s?
PAC FAN
March 30th, 2009
12:06 pm
You clowns miss the point. What about the kid? He had an offer to get an education from a quality school with a quality football program. A kid’s decision to go to college all of sudden becomes about Georgia fans. Isn’t that typical, Georgia fans are so self absorbed that EVERYTHING is about them. Like maybe one of them actually put on a pair of pads. Pathetic~!!! And sick!!!! I wish they would stay on their own sites instead of leaving their trash on Tech news.
JB
March 30th, 2009
12:16 pm
HEY PEEWEE FAG, did you not know that tarrant was not found guilty of anything?? Case is over and women do lie. Dude you are a moron! Get your facts straight. Uga is the only place that offers a degree in correctional management! You losers grace the cell blocks more frequent than oj ever could have a fantasy about! Every damn year, uga football players are arrested, and have no respect for poeples lives on the street while they are drinking and driving. If you are stupid enough to defend that, then your as ignorant as they are! Maybe you just have mush for brains. You are a uga fan after all. Yeah and uga was apart of the conversation alright, i remember seeing the highlights on espn as they were talkin about how that preseaon #1 ranking was getting abused in the second half and torched for 409 yards rushing! You were surely in the conversation and the only team on tv that day, that got it handed to them after a 28-12 lead was spotted to you! Only a fool would sit on this thread and not admit that uga is criminal u, and find a way to accuse a man who was cleared of all charges. Only at uga would you find such stupidity and ignorance. Looks as though you are the conversation of the day or should i say ” idiot of the day”. I chalk it it to this……You are dog, and DOGS EAT THERE OWN SH*T correct?? Think about it hard dummy, its not rocket science here. You can do it. Maybe that explains why your eyes are brown? Wise up and get clue or better yet, A JOB! YOU LEGHUMPERS ARE DRIVING UP THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THIS STATE AS IT IS!!!!!
45-42 AND YOU CAN SUCK ON THAT TILL NEXT THANKSGIVING BECAUSE YOUR BRAGGING RIGHTS ARE DONE! You won the sec, wow, we have 4 nc and have 4 coaches in the hall of fame and a the most prestigious trophy in college football named after a tech coach! Your accomplishments are just so overwhelming. Tech even has a better bowl winning percentage between the two schools. Football was just not evented 6 years ago. EVER HEARD OF TRADITION?? We have as many national titles as texas, and you won 1 during a fluke season. Thats what uga fans say when we beat you. FLUKE. You guys are what makes this society such a disgrace. Your full of excuses,lies,distorting facts, and that brown stuff! Keep it up, your on your way to barack obama’s rock star status!! Can we get a uga graduate to make an appearance on the jay leno show and humiliate special needs kids too???? You seem to make no sense on these threads, so why not take your moron status to the the national level? I know you uga fans have it in you.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 30th, 2009
12:19 pm
You go, JB. Give ‘em hell !!
hem o'roid
March 30th, 2009
12:22 pm
Wendy-I usually only make silly blogs, like most of these on this thread. Congrats on having one of the most sensible statements ever made on these threads. Helluva job!
DDT
March 30th, 2009
12:25 pm
Last I heard JB, it’s all you wannabes getting canned from IT Eng jobs driving the unemployment rate up in Georgia. Not to mention also being layed off and replaced by the thousands by harder working, smarter, more bang for the buck H1Bs from India. Of course since you obviously have never set foot in a college classroom yourself, as evidenced by your rather trashy semi literate post, I guess we can’t blame that on you can we?
sswinfordawg
March 30th, 2009
12:30 pm
I agree with GT. PJ beat UGA once and did okay in the acc but he did that with gailey’s recruits. I seriously doubt he will be able to compete once those guys are gone. He has shown no evidence of bringing in any outstanding athletes either. Mediocre, yes but not great. Once nesbitt, thomas, and dwire are gone it will be back to the same old tech. I’ll give it to PJ. He is a good coach but it is way to difficult to recruit the necessary talent to run this offense. So basically GT traded a coach that was great at recruiting and bad at coaching for a coach that can’t recruit but can coach. Both will show similar results (once Gailey’s recruits leave). I wouldn’t set hopes too high techies because there is no sign of PJ being able to recruit high level talent and if that is so then last year and this year will be the peak of PJ’s coaching career. After that there will be a significant drop off in talent and production. So guys, enjoy next year because you probably won’t see one as productive until you fire PJ because of a 5,6,7,8 year losing streak to UGA.
DDT
March 30th, 2009
12:36 pm
I beg your pardon JB, but the most prestigious award in college football is named for a former Auburn, Clemson, Oberlin, Akron, Penn, AND trade school coach. So I guess your claim to that leather helmet era claim to fame is as dubious as that co-NC that you girls talk about like it belongs to you and you alone.
DDT
March 30th, 2009
12:37 pm
By the way, has any trade school player ever won that trophy named after that former Auburn, Clemson, Oberlin, Akron, Penn, AND trade school coach?