Interviews with the ladies of TLC’s new show ‘The Sisterhood’
Christina Murray, Delana Rutherford, Tary Y. Lewis, Ivy Couch and Domonique Scott are "The Sisterhood" on TLC starting Jan. 1 at 9 p.m. CREDIT: TLC
Loading ...TLC hopes blending a little Bible Belt religion into a genre better known for backbiting, verbal and physical sparring and jealousy will create alchemy in a new reality program called “The Sisterhood,” which debuts tonight at 9 p.m.
Five metro Atlanta preacher’s wives give us a look behind the curtain of lives where they feel they are held to a higher standard. Ultimately, they want to show they are regular human beings with sex lives, financial problems and dark pasts.
I don’t get the impression any were close friends before they were put together for this program. Three of them work at existing churches where their husbands are preachers. Two are without a flock. All five are married. One was part of an R&B group for a brief moment. Two are in mixed-race relationships.
In the first episode, we meet four of the five women. Three ladies clash almost immediately. Domonique Scott, whose husband lost his church after they hit financial straits, and Ivy Couch, a newlywed who was briefly in the group Xscape, go at it with Tara Y. Lewis. Tara is part of an interracial couple that came to Atlanta from Los Angeles but lost their jobs at a Dunwoody church after just six weeks.
In their view, Tara comes across as holier than thou.
Tara keeps citing scripture. The other women tell to stop being so annoyingly dogmatic.
“I love the scripture… But when we come together like this, you don’t feel the need to reference the scripture,” Ivy told Tara in the opening episode.
“One thing you’ll learn about me is I’m kingdom,” Tara said. “You can’t evangelize without the scripture… God has really graced me. That grace is in ministry.”
Tara then said her “effectiveness” in church “is unquestionable.”
“Her communication skills need a whole lot of work,” Domonique told the show cameras. “She’s bananas.”
“I always knock people off their feet,” Tara said in an interview last month. She is aware the “wives” shows are popular but refuses to watch them, saying she only seeks “positive” shows. “I really think that so many people are saddened by what they see. There is popular culture interested in something new, something fresh, something inspirational.”
She is big into physical fitness and healthy eating. She is also into HGTV shows. She only listens to Christian music.
Domonique in an interview said “reality shows can be a form of ministry.” She actually embraces watching the other “wives” shows. “I’ve learned a bit of what to do and what not do to. What to wear, what not to wear. It’s all good to me. I believe what will set us apart is our ability to be able to move forward, to agree to disagree, to be honest. And we’re all married. But we aren’t perfect. We have tax liens. We have issues.”
She said her church was relatively small, with fewer than 100 members but the recession made it even harder on them. Ultimately, they had to shut their doors. The show will reveal how she and her husband Brian will try to get back on their feet.
Ivy, in an interview, is also a fan of reality shows. “It helps me as a release, when I need to step away from the daunting, hectic things in life,” she said. She realized doing her own reality show makes her vulnerable but feels “I’m an open book. I won’t be fake or pretentious or phony.” She said preacher’s wives are “supposed to be perfect and don’t have issues and God. That’s not the case. I’m not perfect. This is a daily struggle.”
Of all the women I talked to, she came across the most philosophical about her life.
Her past, she said, includes plenty of hard partying but doesn’t regret her past. “I’m grateful for the struggles and mishaps and grateful for what they deem as the non wholesome. It made me a real person, a person people can relate to. I can meet you where you are.” She has worked hard not to be a people pleaser, to have her own opinions and not judge others. She hopes people who watch her don’t judge her based on shallow impressions but to get to know her over time.
Her husband’s church, Emanual Tabernacle, is based in the inner city of Atlanta and has been around for ten years with about 1,000 members. She has learned that it’s difficult to be transparent as a First Lady, as they are often dubbed. They are often whispered about and any negative actions can be blown out of proportion. The toughest part of her job, she said, “is remaining consistent and putting other people before yourself. I think if you’re self consumed, you can’t be effective.” She said when a congregant tells her about their lights being turned off, about not having enough to eat, “my issues don’t seem so pressing.”
She hopes “The Sisterhood” will bring people laughter. “Humor is needed in the church world and the secular world,” she said. “I hope people come away with seeing church people are normal and God is real. It’s going to be an interesting ride, never a dull moment.
Christina Murray gets plenty of airtime in the first episode and comes across as sweet, grounded and loving to her husband and children. She and her husband Anthony opened Oasis Family Life Church seven years ago in Paulding County and now has a mixed group of 2,000 congregants and is growing rapidly. “I honestly feel that my husband and I are a little more cutting edge,” she said in an interview. “We’re not your typical traditional style church. My husband is transparent and real. There’s no sugarcoating.” She considers it a “very loving and embracing style ministry. The music is diverse and multicultural. It could be rock or traditional southern church gospel.”
The one lady who does not show up in the first episode but will presumably appear later is Delana Rutherford. Her church Worship With Wonders in Kennesaw is “very praise and worship. We have a soulful sound. It’s eclectic.” It opened six years ago and now draws 500 people a week on Sunday. It began in a movie theater but now has a 27,000 square foot facility. “The Word is not compromised,” she said. “The worship of spirit leads. We let God do what we have to do. People are hungry for that. People feel very free to worship and be transparent with stories and what they’ve been through and not be judged.”
Doing this show, she said, “is an assignment from God.” Like Tara, Delana avoids reality programs of similar ilk. She hopes people who watch “The Sisterhood” are “not just entertained but changed. Their lives are touched. They’re blessed.”
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anonymous
January 2nd, 2013
12:32 pm
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. 12 A hired hand isn’t a shepherd and doesn’t own the sheep. When he sees a wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and quickly runs away. So the wolf drags the sheep away and scatters the flock. 13 The hired hand is concerned about what he’s going to get paid and not about the sheep. – John 10:11-13
The Sisterhood – Worth The Watch? | Praise 102.7
January 2nd, 2013
12:37 pm
[...] As you already know by now, I’m not a big fan of “reality TV” because I think the cameras bring the worse out in people who ordinarily wouldn’t be outrageous in “real life.” Well, enter TLC‘s newest housewife edition, “The Sisterhood,” which debuted last night. Here’s a bit about the show from Access Atlanta: [...]
anonymous
January 2nd, 2013
12:43 pm
7 And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers,[a] cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay. 9 Acquire no gold or silver or copper for your belts, 10 no bag for your journey, or two tunics[b] or sandals or a staff, for the laborer deserves his food. – Matthew 10: 7-10
anonymous
January 2nd, 2013
1:11 pm
Keeping it Real? Gossip,Greediness, and Haughtiness. Is that suppose to be a Christian’s personality? A Christian is a believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings. Out of all my years of reading the scriptures i have yet to read of Christ behaving this way. On the other hand i have read several accounts were Satan has acted like a plum fool. I also don’t think God will tolerate this “for profit” mess in his kingdom. When we are apart of his kingdom I wonder if we will have to pay to hear sermons? Or wait, he is going to have us build up several MEGA churches and none of his people are united. The focus is clearly in the wrong place and its obvious by watching this TV show.
CW
January 2nd, 2013
1:25 pm
I just wish I could have seen the difference between the women of God and the regular housewife shows. It was the same drama, the same gossip, the same arguing. I did not see how this show depicting “Christian” women was any different from the other reality shows. I would like to see these families resolve their issues with integrity. I would like to see how they balance family & ministry. I would like to see how they handle difficult situations within the ministry. To say that we haven’t been married long enough if the cops have not been called to our homes is not a good example of healthy Christian marriage. All couples don’t have that level of drama. Yes Christians have problems too but the difference is supposed to be our hope in Christ Jesus. I would like to see that difference portrayed in the show otherwise its just another reality show….
Star
January 2nd, 2013
2:30 pm
One of the greatest sins is slander and gossip. I’m not sure how committed these women are to being Christ-like. I can’t imagine my minister’s wife acting so poorly.
Sassafras132
January 2nd, 2013
2:36 pm
I believe a pastor/father should encourage/insist that his children remain virgins until marriage, no matter what is going on in the world. I believe it’s a parent’s job to talk about sex with their kids, even to the point of using fruit to be direct and real just so they know about sex in general. Still, God’s will should be the order because He ordained sex for a man and woman who are married to each other. Too many parents get lazy and just push their kids to condoms and pills without giving them any knowledge or setting Godly standards and expecatations in their home. No doubt, I will give the show a chance. Even though these women are from nontraditional churches and are very young, they are still growing in their roles as a first lady. If the show doesn’t lead anyone to God/the church, hopefully, these women will see some not so Godly habits in themselves that will cause them to make some personal changes about themselves so that they go back to their prospective church homes and really change lives. I believe the purpose for the show is to let Christians know that we are all humans who are flawed, no matter our titles. So as more episodes come, we will just have to pray that if God has allowed this show to air, that He has a purpose for someone and in the end, He will get His glory.
Sophia
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
To the Christians:
Whether you want to face it or not, this show is an ACCURATE depiction of what the church has become. Deal with it. Wake up and realize that everybody that has the title of “pastor” or “first lady” is not a super holy person with extra special powers that makes them a perfect. They are not super-heroes. They are just as jacked up as the rest of us. I know you think your pastor can do no wrong, but that is naive. Some of yall are so busy serving your pastors, that you forgot to serve God. Then you fall out on the floor when you find out that they’re not perfect….or even better, you go into denial.
Secondly, kudos to the pastor that showed his daughters how to use a condom. Read a little bit. Teens who are taught nothing but abstinence are more likely than teens who are taught about safe-sex to acquire STDs and become pregnant before the age of 21. Not making that up. So if you want to live in a little fantasy village where teaching kids nothing but abstinence works, go ahead. Ruin the lives of another generation. Teens have the highest rates of STDs across all age groups and you all are more concerned with “The Word” than saving them from HIV. You taught them abstinence. Great. But how often do teens disobey their parents??? I’ll wait. HIV kills. People die. Let that religiosity go and use some wisdom.
I was raised in church. Born in the pews. I’m not doing guesswork. I’m speaking from experience.
And learn to spell.
Llndc
January 2nd, 2013
3:58 pm
Wow…folks on here call themselves Christians but in the same sentence will call these women trash!! Smh..instead of bashing pray for them!!! And you wonder why folks turn away from the church…too judgemental.
Angela
January 2nd, 2013
4:52 pm
I live in Atlanta too. This is ridiculious i grant you these pastors will lose a lot of members. It`s always about a dollar in Atlanta churches. Not all but a great majority. They really took this to another level. SAD! really SAD!
DERIOS2
January 2nd, 2013
4:58 pm
WATCHED THE SHOW……..WOW………THIS THE REASON ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT GO TO CHURCH.THESE WOMEN GIVE REAL FIRST LADIES A BAD NAME.
Margaret Scovell
January 2nd, 2013
7:23 pm
I am a honest to goodness pastors wife. Have been for over 30 years. I know NO ONE like this in all my years of being a pw!! I am not sure where you found these women, but they are NOT true to life pw’s that is for sure. Most of us are working women, nurses, teachers, etc., for the most part, as well as full time (hard working) mothers!! We live on low salaries, and constantly struggle with being a wife and mother, helping our husbands, raising our kids, and trying to please God rather then the countless people in our congregations that think they know what we should or should not be doing….This show made me SICK when I saw the few parts of it I did see. These women are self serving, gossipy, and have no business in this show. TLC has sunk to a new low for sure…..you had to try to destroy the Amish, and now you go after those in ministry…..SHAME on you.
Nia
January 2nd, 2013
7:35 pm
Wow ,thanks for showing how Atlanta ladies of the church roll. Thank God we do things much different here lol. This have you ask yourself what kind of church is this ???
Savannah
January 2nd, 2013
8:38 pm
Christians show each other in a bad light everyday. They’ve been doing so for thousands of years. One show will not change peoples sour opinions about Christians. I didn’t like the show simply because it was boring….
ADIAMOND
January 2nd, 2013
9:09 pm
Love this show, because this is reality. I’v been in the church all my life and I keep tell people church folks are human people.. what in them will come OUT!!!.. Always in somebody else business can’t even clean up what’s in their own back-front door and Sister Jewish love you but let your husband know this we BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE REAL I MEAN IT WE ARE REAL REAL “JEWS”!!!! (not the jewish thy sold what our Thank You)!
Karen
January 2nd, 2013
9:15 pm
I’m going to co-sign with Diane. I KNOW DOMINIQUE VERY WELL. She is a FAKE pastor. She CURSES up a storm, LIES, STEALS, gossips, talks down and talks about people. She is evil and vindictive.
Z
January 2nd, 2013
9:58 pm
I think this is a disgrace, I am very disappointed and probably God too,.smh
Gina
January 2nd, 2013
10:32 pm
Really people I think we all know pastors and their wives are people with problems just like the rest of us, however I do expect my leader to conduct themselves more like Jesus Christ Period.
Katrina
January 3rd, 2013
12:36 am
This show is no different than any of the other shows that depict women in a negative way. The main thing that I got from it is that women of God ought not to act like that. There is a difference between being a member of the body of Christ and being a so-called Christian!
Elder Clark
January 3rd, 2013
2:18 am
This is blasphemous at its best! Talk about a MOCKERY out of the work of Christ. Tattoos, Arguments, Pride, and out of all the calls I’ve been getting; LIES! Is this what the broken have to look forward to when they come to church in Atlant…a? I don’t need you to show me how you are human and deal with some of the same attributes as I do. I need you to show how Christ is in every walk of your life through your prayer and devotion to God. This is what makes people feel comfortable asking you to be head over their spiritual lives, Not the fact in knowing “Oh! First Lady gets tattoos”. Wake up LEADERS IN CHRIST! WAKEUP. This show is a disgrace to kingdom of Christ builders everywhere. Lord forgive them for they know not what they do. Romans 12:2 / 14:16
dpspencer
January 3rd, 2013
7:25 am
I just saw the episode of “Sisterhood”…….Really? I mean R.E.A.L.L.Y.??????? Is this what is really going on with the wives of Pastors? Is this what makes or breaks a Pastor’s wife. You want a free production, where the Pastor and his wife hold the money bags? You want the Pastor’s wife to be his partner in the church like it’s an organization and not the organism of Christ? You want us pumped up, weaved up, dressed up to the point that we can’t reach the common community? You want us sizing each other up, like we got it all together? Are these women really Pastor’s (the keeper of souls) wives? I am not confused. This I do know…God will not be mocked. This is my opinion and I don’t care who doesn’t like it. God will not be mocked in HIS church, that HE (not we) established. I understand now, why so many of my sisters (Pastor’s wives), stand alone, pray from the heart, and have few female friends. I may as well have watched re runs of Wives of Atlanta. Lord help those who seek YOUR truth.
DON928
January 3rd, 2013
8:30 am
I forced myself through this train wreck of a show hoping to find something to keep me watching. I did not. As a first family, it is their duty to uplift the community. The black pastor with the WHITE wife had the NERVE to ask the other interracial couple how it is to be an interracial couple..WTF?!? He is one ignorant idiot. Then the fool goes on national television to tell his daughters (and wife) that he had MANY STDs. TLC has finally lost me as a viewer, what a disgrace *shaking my dayum head*
GG
January 3rd, 2013
10:00 am
I don’t know what these so called christians folks are saying they are ashamed and disgraced. The truth hurts. So tired of these false prophets putting up these fake facades as if they are all holier than thou. In the end, the church is about money and its a business. Where was the outrage when Eddie Long was molesting those boys?? I don’t get it.
Katrina
January 3rd, 2013
10:05 am
We need to pray for these women and men that they get the real ” Jesus ” before it’s too late! I remember a time when you actually could see the difference between an un-saved person and a saint. These people need to encourage one another . I Corinthians chapter 13:4-8 it says Charity suffers long and is kind, charity envieth not, charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity; but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all thing, endureth all things. Charity never faileth; but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Charity means love. Where is the Love?
Katrina
January 3rd, 2013
10:05 am
We need to pray for these women and men that they get the real ” Jesus ” before it’s too late! I remember a time when you actually could see the difference between an un-saved person and a saint. These people need to encourage one another . I Corinthians chapter 13:4-8 it says Charity suffers long and is kind, charity envieth not, charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity; but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all thing, endureth all things. Charity never faileth; but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Charity means love. Where is the Love?
DON928
January 3rd, 2013
12:03 pm
TLC did those poor Amish people a great diservice, especially showing that fake-a** Amish Mafia. Also, it aren’t just holier-than-thou people that watched that crap, us regular people watched it to, hoping for some inspiration. Ylana Vanzant needs to go there and set them straight like she did with the Basketball Wives woman that was the bully.
Concerned TLC Viewer
January 3rd, 2013
1:14 pm
I watched a portion of the show last night and was very disappointed and offended. True Christians and men and women of God do not act like that in public, let alone on a reality show. To me, they were unstable and the show was just plain blastphemic. Shame on TLC for such a disgrace in programing. My family will NOT be watching this show again and should TLC continue using such bad decisions on their programming, we will discontinue watching anything on their network. This show is demeaning, nasty, and just bad taste overall..
Wait a Bible minute
January 3rd, 2013
2:25 pm
What would you like to see? The pretends lives? I found this show interesting….it does not make me turn away from the church but makes me want to embrace it more. We need to accept these people are human and have real problems just like we do..they just do not have the luxury as “we” do to vent to our girlfriends for fear or ridicule. I for one have never put my pastor or wife on a pedestal! I put GOD on the pedestal.
Also, it was a good idea that the pastor gave his daughters the condom talk. He is not saying have sex my daughters; but should you please protect yourself. I only wish my father had and I would not have became pregnant prior to college. My parents never gave me a sex talk; needless to say when my child became old enough that is the first thing that I did. Kudos, Pastor
Some of the women have some serious issues, who am I to judge though? I respect their views so respect mine.
mikayla
January 3rd, 2013
2:55 pm
given reality shows and the substance of reality shows, i don’t think the women acted in poor taste. they have to sell the show and let’s face it, drama or the act of drama to come is what will sell the show. as for them acting outside of what is considered “first lady” material. i have no idea how a first lady is suppose to act so i can’t judge. but it seems that now days, having a church and/or forming one seems to be the next big thing and being a first lady is like a status symbol. what about teaching people about God, and not worrying about how many amenities in the church. the one wife said their goal was to become a megachurch. ok, instead of being a ministry where you know your members, you become one where everyone is number or a face in the crowd. and once again, some people will join to say they belong to this or that and not for the reason that it is intended for which is to come together and learn about God and get guidance in a spiritual journey.
although the one i couldn’t get with is tara, i just can’t get with someone who has to have a scripture or mention something biblical in every sentence they speak. if you know God, then people will see it , you don’t have to constantly talk about it. everybody you meet isn’t a soul to evangelize to. the scene with her, dominique and ivy , i think dominique just wanted to see tara and not the evangelist or the one quoting scripture because let’s face, all of us don’t walk around quoting bible verses just because someone asks us how we’re doing. i think the show will do what it is intended to do which is provide entertainment. these are women and humans beings, they are not perfect nor should be placed on a pedestal.
Realtalk4
January 3rd, 2013
3:26 pm
If only these ladies acted the way they look in the picture above, that would really be a Sisterhood.
Sister White
January 4th, 2013
3:51 am
First of all these are immature young Pastor wives that should not be on TV they are not season and wise. I can’t believe these men are showing us what’s happening in their bedroom wow. That just tells me that Pastor is a very friskey with women in the church handcuffs come on. The couple from California I see why they left cali because when God had not chose you and you chose yourself it never work. That so call comedian pastor is annoying and his wife to. Tara the former crack head is real ghetto for a so call First Lady no. This show need to come off the air. I am a Pastor daughter I
Do appreciate these women making a mockery out the First Lady and family. My mother was a very classy Godly woman and humble First Lady. Take them off they just want more money and more members for there churches.
Diane
January 4th, 2013
12:55 pm
You can put a church in the GHETTO but you can not put GHETTO in church. Sorry,” GHETTO GIRL” Domonique or should I say ” HOOD SISTER”. You are not cut out for the task. YOU BLEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and, your husband looks like a fool.
Old School
January 4th, 2013
1:14 pm
I am a Muslim…and this show is EXACTLY WHY ? Christians are Fake…you all are mad because the world is finding out what we Muslims knew all along….WAKE UP !
Charese
January 4th, 2013
4:34 pm
First of all I don’t care for the and refuse to use the title “First Lady” for a pastor’s wife. Secondly, this show is too far-fetched. I admittedly watched the show out of curiosity. If this show MUST be done, try find some established, wise real pastor’s wives, and I say try because no real pastor’s wife would do this; they have too much decorum and love of God to embarrass themselves and their husbands. It’s nothing but a “Real Housewives” gone wild, which I only watched once and I’m pretty sure I’ve watched my only episode of this mess of a show called “Sisterhood” as well. It will probably succeed in keeping folks AWAY from church–not what this world needs now.
Alicia Coleman
January 4th, 2013
6:36 pm
TLC you edited the show in a way that could ruin minsteries and hinder those whom lives could be changed. Those ladies who were gossiping and beefing with each other need to repent. The Word of God says not to judge a thing before its time…beause of Pastor Brian (the Jewish minister) interview I heard on youtube where he repented and told how TLC edited in a way to cause confusion…I would not be watching it again. TLC the show can be entertaining and represent the body of Christ in a positive way!!
Missee
January 4th, 2013
7:25 pm
Christians are to be set apart. We are not to conform to the wold! And call all this who believe this show is justifiable, hypocrites! And to say that the pastor teaching his children how to out a condom on is ok because it helps to prevent pregnancy is absurd! As a Christian, we should know that the sin is not in birthing a child. It is in the actual act of sex before marriage! The church is ti be the example of how to live Godly life without conforming to ungodly ways! And as a Christian to another Christian, we are supposed to judge and correct those who do not line up with His word! When we know better, we are to do better! I’m praying for this nation as a whole and for the real church to stand up! And to the real Christians out there, we already know that the real church is on the inside of us. If we all would understand this, then we all would see that it is not a building we go to just on Sundays and occasional Wednesdays. We are not given permission to act any way we choose outside of the building as long as it’s not in the building but know that God is with you always. I’m so glad I have an awesome example in a Pastor and First Lady!! And this shoe is not the example for our future!
Angie
January 5th, 2013
2:02 pm
This show gives you something to think about. What in the world is going on. Is this the new world or what? I know it’s a new year. I think the ladies are out for money. What about the members in the church do they get paid also? Yall better watch OUT
HG Thomas
January 5th, 2013
3:05 pm
I am waiting to see what GOD HIMSELF is going to do with this. It will be interesting, seeing that the principalities over Atlanta are led by the spirit of homosexuality, the spirit of witchcraft and the spirit of pride. Yes, it will be interesting indeed.
Melisha
January 5th, 2013
8:53 pm
I wasn’t impressed I hope the show gets better and just doesn’t show gossiping, negative tag-teaming, and sexual preferences but rather shows some substance and discretion. I waited to see the show thinking it would show the balanced Christan woman who isn’t perfect yet has a relationship with Christ in the evidence of in their actions. I do not believe God is pleased with this show. I hope it gets better.
CityGirl81
January 6th, 2013
2:23 pm
I grew up in the church and everything I saw in this show and these BEYOND judgmental, hateful and rude comments reaffirms why I have nothing to do with any religion. All these women scream fake and troublemakers. Christina let me know immediately they were all about the money when she mentioned she hopes they become a mega church.
The black church was pivotal in the Civil Rights movement and was a place where African Americans could be safe. Now you have folks preaching the “prosperity doctrine” which there is NO such thing in the bible. Folks really need to READ the bible for themselves with thorough understanding and not the rosy stuff that these preachers today are spitting.
rose postell
January 8th, 2013
5:46 am
DeliteWilson both your comments are my thoughts exactly!!!!
Nichole
January 8th, 2013
1:01 pm
Greetings my sisters and brothers in Christ. Being a Christian women it was hurtful to see the ladies gossip. Making comments such as rumor has it and when the pastor gave his wife handcuffs. Don’t get me wrong I’m not judging ,but I pray we hold up better standards as men and women of God. My prayers are with these people of God.