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‘Idol’ bits: ‘American Idol’ returns for a 12th season January 16, 2013

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‘American Idol” is set to return for its 12 season on January 16 and 17.

That’s a pretty typical launch date. The first night, a Wednesday, will be two hours while the second will be one. It’s less than three months away!

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And here’s Phillip Phillips singing the National Anthem last night before Game One of the World Series. He kept it in his lane and did a very respectable job. His single “Home” has sold two million downloads. Impressive! Only two other coronation singles went double platinum: David Cook’s “Time of My Life” and Kelly Clarkson’s “A Moment Like This.”

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Simon Cowell wants Carmen Electra as a judge for “America’s Got Talent” to replace Sharon Osbourne, according to the New York Post.

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G

October 25th, 2012
9:15 am

As expected………..pp singing the National Anthem does not compare to Jessica Sanchez……….at all.

Oh goodie, Idol is only a few months away! Can’t wait to see which wgwg wins it in 2013!

Woodpappy

October 25th, 2012
9:18 am

Good for Phillip. Eagerly awaiting IDOL, but it may not last long for me if the “judges” are what the show is all about.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
9:38 am

I thought Phil did a great job. He kept to the tune, sang the notes and still gave it a P-squared feel. And of course you can’t compare Jessica’s version to Phil’s. They are totally different kinds of singers. Jessica is pure of voice, powerful and kind of old school in a Celine Dion kind of way. Phil is intimate, emotionally quiet but intense and has a much more contemporary feel.

Don’t know how much longer Idol will stick around so I’m going to enjoy it while it lasts.

Mercedes S.

October 25th, 2012
9:41 am

“… so I’m going to enjoy it while it lasts” – hear, hear!

JTesla

October 25th, 2012
9:57 am

It will be canceled after season 9, so I’ve been told.

I’m in the same boat, I’ll enjoy it while it lasts.

DanJ

October 25th, 2012
10:49 am

Idol has undergone a lot of change over the past year.Well change is not always a good thing espcially when were accustomed to a particular flow or pattern. The chemistry between the judges will determine a lot. Will it be a trainwreck? Idol has two things going for it. Ryan and Jimmy Iovine.

Of course it also has become a running joke. WGWG can’t be ignored especially by those in the media and some of us who are tired of the unfair advantage, albeit perceived or real that it gives to white contestants. Given the fact that an African American won The Voice last year and a Latino young woman won X-Factor only proves that this is strictly an Idol issue.

With all the changes Idol made the one that should have been eliminated is the use of instruments! I’ll watch! I love music. But I’ll also watch waiting for the trainwreck between the judges and in hopes that maybe… just maybe they’ll be another Carrie or Kelly discovered and that talent and not a bias slanted towards getting young girls vote rule the day!

marygrace

October 25th, 2012
10:57 am

PP did a great job with National Anthem.

Woodpappy

October 25th, 2012
11:08 am

I too hope that we find another Carrie or Kelly, DanJ.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
11:14 am

In truth, I’m not sure that the judges disagreeing is such a bad thing, especially after the lovefest that Idol has been for the last couple of years. If the judges can stay respectful of each other while disagreeing about the contestants, I don’t see that it makes Idol all about the judges. However, if Mariah and Nicki get into a verbal slug-fest, then Idol has a serious problem.

G

October 25th, 2012
11:16 am

As usual DanJ, you put everything in proper perspective. The funny thing about the WGWG, is that many Idol fans/watchers may not see this as an issue at all. The only major changes I’ve seen so far, is the changing of judges. I don’t believe the judges will have that much of an impact (if any) on determining a winner, or different outcome. Unless a wgwg doesn’t make it to the live shows, then expect much of the same.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
11:26 am

Whoa! XF is asking for a longer time delay for the live shows. The fear is that Britney will have a “bad day” during the lives shows. In other words, there’s fear that she may freak out. The standard time delay is 5 to 7 seconds. XF wants more than that.

G

October 25th, 2012
11:41 am

Not sure of the current setting, but Idol may need a longer delay too………Mariah vs Nicki.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
11:46 am

Idol got lots of time delay practice with Stephen Tyler!

♥ kelly&carriefan ♥

October 25th, 2012
11:48 am

Hi y’all,

I’ve been so busy lately, I haven’t had time to chime in…but I’m here.

It will be interesting to see how Idol does next year. It has gotten a lot of (bad) press because of the whole Nicki drama. Honestly, I know they are trying to remain in the headlines as XF and The Voice are one. I don’t know that it’s a good thing, imo.

As far as Idol being a running joke, I don’t think I agree. Sure, it gets a lot of flack for the so-called WGWG. I get it. I’ve been annoyed by it, but I’m also surprised at how the shows that aren’t showcasing that XF and, up to now, The Voice aren’t doing so great ratings wise. I seem to recall The Voice besting Idol a few times, but overall, didn’t Idol have better ratings? (Rodney?)

My thing is, XF is making themselves out to be the anti-Idol, and for those who complain about the “tired” formula of Idol, I’m surprised more people aren’t watching it. To me, this season of XF has been a vast improvement over last year’s. Sure, we still haven’t seen the live shows…but the talent is there. The live shows are mostly to see if these mentors can hack it. Even if they don’t, I’m hopeful it will be entertaining. Or I’ll stop watching.

Idol, tired as it might be, still has legs. That said, I think this season could be the moment of truth for it. By the time it comes on, the whole Nicki drama will have been long gone from the headlines…then what? It sure will be a contrast from the “feel good” vibe during JLo and Steven’s tenure. That’s what could be it’s downfall.

As far as finding a Kelly or Carrie…I’ve let go of that dream. Tho, I think if any show is likely to find someone like them, it will be XFactor.

♥ kelly&carriefan ♥

October 25th, 2012
11:51 am

G, sorry if you’ve talked about this, but I haven’t seen it. Are you watching The Voice or XF? What do you think about them? I know the WGWG thing bothers you immensely, so I’m wondering if you like those two shows more.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
12:10 pm

I know the WGWG thing bothers you immensely

I think k&cf just made the understatement of the year…..unless we count G isn’t very fond of Philip Philips

;-)

Pitchy

October 25th, 2012
12:13 pm

Good day everyone!

Looks like PP lost some weight. I too am eagerly awaiting the return of Idol.

Not sure who’s watching XFactor, but I really like the show. What I mean is I like the contestants and Demi Lovato.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
12:17 pm

All kidding aside, I agree with k&cf on a couple of points. Idol still has legs(at least ratings legs when compared to The Voice and XF) Time will tell if that remains true after this coming season.

And yes, XF is making itself out to be the anti-Idol and it doesn’t seem to be working. What I’ve seen of it so far tells me that some of the talent is better than last year but I can’t help but wonder if the audience is put off by how obvious the manipulation is. The whole thing with Simon not including Melanie Amaro in his group last year was sooooooo contrived. The mentors fake competition arguments as opposed to the real feeling behind The Voice’s judges snarking at each other.

And the total disappointment that has been Britney so far…the girl is DULL. Which makes me think this whole “we need more time delay” is just more manipulation.

Seth T

October 25th, 2012
12:20 pm

X-Factor and Idol are both Fox productions, scheduled in different time-frames/seasons of the year. Some of the same behind-the-scenes asst. producers and music industry liasons are involved with both shows, regardless of the competitive front.

The group category on X-Factor is much better this year, as Paula and her consultants could not do much with the crop last year. There are several solo artists that have real potential this year as well.

If Idol holds the ratings from last year, they should not have any trouble finding sponsors that will stay on-board at rates corresponding to a lower average number of viewers. A potential firecracker/backlash in the Idol landcape this year, will be if some parent groups, family show watchdogs and reporters give the general public a clue as to what is said and done in Nicki’s videos that don’t run on the regular music channels or versions not played on main radio.

DanJ

October 25th, 2012
12:57 pm

The extra time delay for X-Factor may be because of the potential for bad language. The Voice is bleeped a lot because of it. However some are drawn to The Voice because of that.
As for ratings I do think Idol has loyal fans. I’m not sure how those fans will react if Idol turns into a circus.

I prefer X-Factor over the other two shows with Idol being second and The Voice third. The ratings for X-Factor are hard to gauge since it competes with The Voice and also on Thursdays is NFL football. This past year Idol had some great talent and while PP was good, better than the past 3 winners he was not the best contestant IMO. On the other hand XF with Melanie Amaro, Josh Krajcik and Chris Rene were the top 3. Last years Voice winner should have been Jesse Campbell. That’s why we now have the steal. Jesse was robbed!!! Chris Mann over Jesse Campbell? Please XTina glad she won’t be on season 3. I also think Juliet was the best of the final 4.

The OTHER SHOWS…Duets and The Next were not good. I watched Duets the entire season and two episodes of The Next!

I agree with G that Idol may need a longer time delay for their two divas. I also agree with Kellyandcarriefan that the next Kelly or Carrie will come from X-Factor.
Top 5 X-Factor
1) Jennel Garcia
2) David Correy
3) Carly Rose Sonaclar
4) LYLAS (YES A GROUP)
5) Jason Brock

G

October 25th, 2012
1:21 pm

First of all, a big HIGH FIVE to DanJ on the Jesse Campbell comment! Letting him go was the biggest blunder on The Voice (because of Christina of course), and they’re making sure they clean it up with the “Steal”. I absolutely love this addition to the format of the show. I don’t care what you call it (Save), this change definitely works for the show. Can’t have it both ways…………criticize The Voice for adopting an idea from Idol, then criticizing XF for being the “anti-idol”.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

I don’t think anyone here criticized XF for being the anti-Idol. It almost has to be since it is also on Fox. The criticism(at least mine) stems from the obvious audience manipulation smacking of desperation on XF’s part.

And I think the steal works for The Voice…but let’s be honest, it’s a judges save and the judges can save more than one singer. That being said, the judges on The Voice are not saving a singer who has been eliminated by audience voting. They’re a saving a singer whose mentor MUST make a choice whether he/she wants to or not. So the steal seems kind of contrived, too. A mentor must dump one singer but that singer doesn’t necessarily have to leave. It adds drama and probably would have saved Jesse Campbell last year but, other than that, why can’t a mentor just choose not to eliminate ONE of his singers?

G

October 25th, 2012
1:44 pm

K&C and D, you guys have me cracking up behind the screen. You both know me so well. LOL!

I don’t like the fact that both shows are competing in the same season. I have too much going on to keep up as much as I’d like between 2 shows. I like to provide and read detailed analysis of The Voice and XF, much like I do for Idol. Competing shows throughout the week don’t allow me to do that.

Out of the “Big 3″, Idol is currently a close 3rd for me. Not because it’s a bad product, but it’s third for my enjoyment. I do admit Idol had the best crop of talent they’ve had in years. However, the other shows are stepping it up. I slightly enjoy The Voice a bit more than XF “today”, but it’s likely this may change once I catch up with XF. Thursday nights are bad due to football season.

Idol may have one or two r&b artist that make it to the live shows, then a boat load of everything else. There seems to be more genre balance between The Voice and XF. If there ARE instrumentalist on Voice & XF, it doesn’t come out until much later in the show (if then).

DanJ makes a good point about the variety and style of winners for each show. You have a WGWG, BGWG, and a Latino powerhouse. Neither would win on the rival shows. That has to say something about the demographic and taste of viewership.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

Back when Idol first began in the UK it was called Pop Star. When it started here in the USA the concept was still to find the next big Pop star. The first season, the contestants were made up almost entirely of pop singers, not R&B or country. Even Tamyra Grey sang mostly in the pop style with only small hints of a possible R&B background. Idol evolved into a little more musical diversity after the first season but mostly it has maintained that “middle of the road” personality. I think that’s why it appeals to so many people. It rarely goes too far.

Reality (TV) Bites

October 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Crappy television, with crappy music, for dumbass sheeple that will eat up damn near any garbage the networks sling at them.

Jenny

October 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

I will be watching XF with y’all as soon as the live shows start! And thanks to you guys I have an idea of the good singers to watch out for. Should be interesting!

I don’t think Idol overall has become a running joke yet… but DanJ, yes, it will be soon enough if they don’t put an end to the wgwg winners. The media is noticing more and more with each one. If Idol was smart, they’d make sure no wgwgs get in front of America.

I think every season starts off with good talent, good buzz about that talent, and fresh hope for a true winner. The joke part doesn’t usually kick in until April/May when the good ones start to leave while the less-talented wgwg sails on.

Sadly, (not so) Darling Nikki may add to the joke perception. And Seth may be on to something… her explicit versions may get called into the public perception, and it may backfire when parents become more aware of what she’s putting out there. We’ll see! I’ll give her a chance, but I’m just not convinced she was a very smart choice.

Seth T

October 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

It will be interesting to see if X-Factor is pulling a younger demographic viewer this time. If so, it will put the boy bands and younger male artists in a better position for survival. 14-15 year old girls will still be voting when their mothers are on to watching another show, their older brother just voted for a hip-hopper or rapper one time, and their dad didn’t watch or didn’t vote. Their grandpa watched for a bit, then went to the workshop, their grandma voted for someone who sang a pleasant ballad that sounded nice.

David Correy and Vino Allen are both good singers, but I can’t see either one making the top 5. My bet is that the over-25’s will crumble like the groups did last year. Tate Stevens may hold-on for a while if there’s enough country audience, but he doesn’t have the image or X-Factor of a rising Country star. He’s not competing against jugglers, dance groups or comedians – so I don’t see a Kevin Skinner situation here. He just has to survive Wille Jones, to get a ways down the road.

The Voice is now done with the battlerounds, and now headed to the “knock-out” rounds, where the Judges are free to make decisions that will tick-off many of us.

Rickster

October 25th, 2012
3:23 pm

I’m just feeling very underwhelmed about both Idol and XF. Haven’t watched The Voice enough to even know what’s going on… so I’ll not discuss that.

Deirdre

October 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

Excuse me, now that I think about it the original name was not Pop Star, it was Pop Idol.

And I have to agree with Jenny that Nicki was not a good choice.

Sierra

October 25th, 2012
4:00 pm

Uh…Phillip’s “Home” is the ONLY Idol coronation song to sell & certify as 2x platinum. According to Chart Watch:

Phillip’s “Home” 2,080,000
David C’s “The Time Of My Life” 1,463,000
Kelly’s “A Moment Like This” 1,223,000
Carrie’s “Inside Your Heaven” 880,000
Scotty’s “I Love You This Big” 851,000
Ruben’s “Flying Without Wings” 790,000
Taylor’s “Do I Make You Proud” 709,000
Fantasia’s “I Believe” 559,000
Kris’s “No Boundaries” 343,000
Jordin’s “This Is My Now” 334,000
Lee’s “Beautiful Day” 186,000

DanJ

October 25th, 2012
4:34 pm

@Seth, last years over’s were poorly chosen by Nicole however Josh did finish 2nd. Dexter should have never been chose. Josh and LeRoy were both pretty good. Stacy even had a moment or two.

This year I think any one of the four OVERS could make the final 4. I only see two teens Carly Rose and Diamond White with a chance to make the top 4. Same with the young adults. Jennel Garcia and Willie Jones but only if he goes more R&B. The only group with a chance is LYLAS. Of course these are just my opinions. I do like David Correy he kinda reminds me of Bruno Mars. Vino Alan is hard edge rock. Jason Brock has a great voice but he is out there and some may not vote for based on his sexuality. I hope that’s not the case. Tate Stevens has a great throwback country voice. So as far at groups/categories go as a whole the OVERS have the most talent. IMO

Rickster

October 25th, 2012
5:00 pm

I just popped back in to say, “Have a great evening, everyone.”

Pitchy

October 25th, 2012
5:10 pm

Thanks, you too!!

Pitchy

October 25th, 2012
5:12 pm

DanJ – David Correy has reminded me of Bruno Mars from day one. Carly Rose and Diamond White both have beautiful voices, but I think Diamond White has a tad bit more confidence in her craft than Carly Rose.

Highlander

October 25th, 2012
5:48 pm

@Reality (TV) Bite (3pm post): Sorry, I read your comment by mistake. Thought you were going to offer advice on what to snack on while watching reality TV. …My bad. :D

Mercedes S.

October 25th, 2012
5:48 pm

Lee? Lee? Who the heck… I’ve seen every Idol since the beginning but, honestly, I can’t remember any Lee!

Mercedes S.

October 25th, 2012
5:51 pm

Catching up on my recordings, think I’ve had it with American Horror Story. Way to sadistic and now that the idiot girl reporter has ratted on her only two friends, there’s nobody, except for those two kids, to root for.

Mercedes S.

October 25th, 2012
5:52 pm

And before I wish everyone a good evening, a Project Runway all star starts tonight.

Highlander

October 25th, 2012
6:05 pm

Thanks for the shout-out yesterday, D. I really miss the old days when we had our own designated blog. (I’m sure many of the “old-timers” would agree.)

On another note, I disagree that Idol hasn’t become more about the judges. They proved it when they went back to a 4 judge panel. …And this after all the fan displeasure about it the first time!

Don’t care how much better the talent on X-F is this year (and it is), I still won’t acknowledge it as a Idol competitor when it’s having a tough time beating The Voice in the ratings!

Lastly, what’s with the ultra-loud, fake-DJ voice-over guy that X-F has been using to announce future episodes? He sounds like someone who failed to get the Sham-Wow commercial job!

JTesla

October 25th, 2012
7:59 pm

Highlander: agree on quite a bit, but had to comment on the XF VoiceOver guy. That is about all I heard of the last episode and it just goes to show that Simon and Co have learned nothing from last years host debacle. It made me laugh.

Deirdre

October 26th, 2012
7:55 am

Morning!

Highlander, if you look to the right column, you’ll find a heading “Bookmark our special show pages” You can go there. bookmark an Idol page from there and it is almost like still having our own page. The bookmark will take you to a section where only the Idol related posts appear.

Highlander

October 26th, 2012
8:03 am

Morning!

I’m with ya. JT. First time I heard that booming voice-over I thought, “Did Simon hire that guy off some used car commercial?”

Or maybe Simon figured that by that time in the show some viewers might be dozing off and needed to be wakened up!?

Highlander

October 26th, 2012
8:08 am

Thanks for the heads up, D! Outta here for now. Have a great day!

Sam-A

October 26th, 2012
8:12 am

D: What exactly is “bookmarking” and where do you go to find it once you do it?

Deirdre

October 26th, 2012
8:44 am

Sam, at the very top of your computer screen you’ll see “bookmarks”(what is it called on a PC, I forgot)When you go to the section I described for Highlander, get on this Idol page from that section then click “bookmarks” You’ll see “bookmark this page” click that. Then, any time you want to come to the Idol section of this blog, click “bookmarks” again, find the heading in the list, then click it. It will take you directly to the Idol section of the blog.

Mercedes S.

October 26th, 2012
8:53 am

Good Morning!

“Cloud Atlas” is the divider movie of the year – people either love it or loathe it. It’s a confusing mess, based on an “unfilmable” book by David Mitchell, with six interlocking stories taking place in different time frames, all involving the same actors in different parts (Tom Hanks, Halle Berry, Susan Sarandon, Jim Sturgess, Jim Broadbent and Hugh Grant). This means a lot of latex and make-up, and lots of time spent guessing which actor is playing what character.

Some of the acting is unbelievanly hammy (Sarandon popping her huge bug-eyes), Hanks speaking post- apocalyptic gibberish), some is lovely (Halle Berry in all her parts, ditto unknown Korean model/actress Doona Bae). Direction by siblings Andy and Lana Wachowski and German filmmake Tom Tykwer is as wild and woolly as the storylines.

I plan to read the book and go see the movie again… maybe then I’ll understand it.

Deirdre

October 26th, 2012
8:59 am

Mercedes, I was just about to ask you if Cloud Atlas is as convoluted and overwrought as it appears to be in the trailer. I guess it is.

Mercedes S.

October 26th, 2012
9:06 am

“Chasing Mavericks” is all water and woe, telling the true-life tale of Jay Moriarity who rose to surfer fame when he survived, at 16, the scariest waters on the California coast, the Maverick breaks.

Fatherless and caring for an alcoholic, depressed mother (Elisabeth Shue), Jay attached himself to “Frosty” a surfer “dude” (Gerard Butler) down the street. Frosty becomes his surfing mentor and teacher of life lessons.

Johnny Weston plays Jay with a cheerfulness that comes of as a bit grating in the movie, but apparently the real Jay was a happy, sunny person, in spite of his many hardships. If you plan to see “Chasing Mavericks”, do NOT google Jay Moriarity until afterwards.

Mercedes S.

October 26th, 2012
9:09 am

And I’m caught up with the Atlanta zombie story… what a great show WD is!! Read RoHo’s recap and he was spot-on.

Sam-A

October 26th, 2012
9:17 am

Thanks for the info, Deirdre. Sounds simple enough, but my particular Windows (work computer) has not a single thing that says “bookmark”. Even opened the “Tools” and “Favorite” symbols to see if it might be there. Either I or my computer is a bit behind the times!