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Confirmed: rock station 92.9/Dave FM going sports talk in the early fall

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The rumors began circulating heavily about a month ago: 92.9/Dave FM was going sports talk.

This morning, the rumors became truth. General manager Rick Caffey gathered the entire staff to inform them that in late September or early October, the rock station will become an FM sports talk station.

Management did not let anybody go this morning. At least for the next few weeks, the on-air staff and music mix shall remain the same.

Caffey, in an exclusive interview this morning, said he’d like to have a local presence in all key time slots but that may not be the case in the very beginning.

“Our accent will be local personalities,” he said, noting that personalities are what has helped carry sister hip-hop station V-103 all these years. “The fundamentals will be finding interesting, compelling personalities that not only do great radio but are out and about in the community. We’re looking at a combination of ex jocks, ex coaches and broadcasters.” He’d like them to have local ties but that’ s not a necessity.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

There has been no official on-air hires yet, though Dave FM recently gave sports newscaster Mitch Evans a full-time job, an early clue to the impending changes. “I imagine we’ll find a spot for him,” Caffey said.

The 2 Live Stews, who have been with 790/The Zone the past decade, have seen their profiles dim the past 18 months on the station. They are now part of a “team” show called the Red Zone mid-days. Their contract is up at the end of the year with the Zone and could potentially jump to 92.9. Other personalities on rival stations such as Mike Bell at the Zone and Christopher Rude and John Kincade on 680/The Fan are tied up in contracts for quite a bit longer, according to their agent Norm Schrutt.

The new sports station has hired a new program director: Terry Foxx, most recently program director at The Fan in Pittsburgh. “Working with him will be inspiring and I’m confident you’ll also be motivated by his work ethic and energetic personality,” Caffey said in a memo to staff this morning.

An official name hasn’t been dubbed yet for the sports station, In other markets, CBS has names such as the Hub and the Ticket.

A change of format is not a surprise. Eight-year-old Dave FM’s ratings have cratered the past year and recent signs of improvement were too modest to make a difference.

One of Caffey’s biggest disappointments with Dave was the inability to find a successful morning team, which is a key anchor for most successful music stations. The station went through at least six shows over eight years: Steve Barnes and Holly Firfer, Firfer with Tim Orff, Zakk Tyler, Orff alone, Jimmy Baron and Yvonne Monet and in recent months, Steve Craig.

Caffey noted the difficulty in this day and age to find good talent in smaller markets. “The farm system isn’t what it used to be,” he said. Many smaller stations now run syndicated product or go jockless in evenings, nights and weekends. Those were the time slots where management used to nurture raw talent but not anymore.

He had a hard time pinpointing why Dave lost so much mojo since early last year, when it was a top 10 station. It shed  more than half its audience by this past spring, with the lowest ratings of any major FM signal in town. “It’s a very crowded landscape,” Caffey noted, in the rock arena in Atlanta, which currently has five stations playing the format. Besides Dave, there’s 97.1/The River, Rock 100.5, Project 9-6-1 and 99X.

Many music fans have reduced or stopped listening to old-school FM radio. They are now using Slacker, Pandora, Spotify and a host of other on-line only sites to access music they want without the jock talk and with far fewer ads. But personality talk radio can’t be replicated like a jukebox.

Although Dave has never been able to be a consistent top performer in ratings, it was able to count on what Caffey calls “qualitatives.” This is the same argument NBC uses to keep shows like “30 Rock” and “Parks and Recreation” around. The listeners are high income and very involved in the music they listen to.

Dave has been shifting its music mix around the past two years, trying to find the right blend, but it has stuck to a core of artists from day one such as Dave Matthews, U2, the Police and Tom Petty.  As an “adult alternative” blend, the station broke artists in Atlanta such as Adele, Florence + the Machine, Mumford & Sons and the Avett Brothers.

mara-davis-300x240Rock has been on 92.9 for more than 20 years. Before Dave, it was Z93, a classic rock format until 2004. The only holdover personality from those days, Mara Davis (left), has anchored mid-days since the early days of Dave.

Of the on-air staff, she will probably have the easiest time finding a new job. Schrutt, her agent, has already begun fielding calls from rival stations. The two most obvious homes for Mara: Rock 100. 5or 97.1/The River.

In recent years, CBS, the owner of Dave FM, has brought sports talk to FM in several markets, including Boston, Detroit, Dallas and soon to come, Tampa.

This will create a major battle royale in Atlanta, which already has two well-established sports talk stations: 680/The Fan (simulcast on 93.7) and 790/The Zone. Many major markets have two successful sports talk stations. Very few have three. Dallas has three sports stations, for instance, though I’m not sure if all three are thriving.

“CBS is really good at sports talk,” said Schrutt, who represents several personalities in town, including Cindy Simmons of Star 94, Melissa Carter at All News 106.7 and several of the aforementioned sports talk personalities. “It’s hard to believe a third sports station will be successful, but they clearly see something here that I don’t see.”

With AM stations losing audience, many are seeking FM homes. 680/The Fan added a 93.7 FM simulcast in late 2010. 790/The Zone is at a distinct disadvantage with a weaker night signal and no home on the FM dial.

“The percentage of people who don’t even listen to AM on a regular basis is going up,” said Tom Taylor, who has followed radio news for years and runs the www.radio-info.com site. “In some markets, it’s more than 50 percent. You can reach younger people easier on the FM dial.”

92.9 is a far stronger signal than the Fan’s 93.7 and will cover the entire market more completely than either AM signal, especially at night.

Sources tell me there were talks for 92.9 to possibly lease 790/The Zone’s programming but that never came to be. CBS, which is putting together a national network as well, will be doing this on their own. Interestingly, CBS is working with Atlanta-based Cumulus to help distribute that national network.

The new sports station will not have exclusive broadcasting rights to any major team though Caffey said it will consider bidding for rights in the future when they become available.

Dave FM actually had the Atlanta Falcons broadcasts for seven years until last year but Caffey said there was never any serious consideration to change format to sports talk at the time. The Atlanta Braves right now are tied up with Rock 100.5 and the Fan. The Hawks are aired on the Fan as well. The Zone has the Falcons and Georgia Tech. 95.5FM and AM750 News/Talk WSB has been the home to the University of Georgia Bulldogs football for many years.

Sports talk is appealing, Taylor said, because “it’s very salable. It has an emotional component. People want to be associated with the format talking about local teams, local loyalties. And the talk is far less controversial than politics.”

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Fred Toucher (left) and Rich Shertenlieb, former 99Xers, have done well in Boston at a sports talk station.

Nationally, some sports stations do well, some don’t, like any other format. CBS’s sports stations in Detroit and Boston (which features former Atlanta/99X jocks Rich Shertenlieb and Fred Toucher) are pulling in big audiences. Its Dallas sports station is struggling.

The overall ratings for the Fan and the Zone over the years have never looked all that impressive. But both cater to a very specific, sought-after male audience that advertisers are willing to pay a premium for.

In fact, the heads of both stations put on brave faces in the face of the new rival, using the same analogy: a rising tide lifts all boats.

“This is a healthy format for a number of reasons,” said Andrew Saltzman, president of the Zone. “We deliver live and local exclusive content you can’t find on Pandora or satellite. On Monday morning, you can celebrate or commiserate about the Atlanta Falcons and have only live and local sports radio to go. The Zone is the leader of the pack. We take competition very seriously. We’ll do everything to protect and build our brand. We have a 15-year heritage history. We’re one of the top 10 billing sports talk stations in the country. We feel very comfortable with what we’re putting out there on the air.”

David Dickey, who runs the Fan, said it takes time to build a sports talk brand.

“To do it right, you must invest in people. You must invest in marketing. You must invest in promotions and partnerships. Just invest in time,” he said. “After the confetti falls, you have to do the work.”

The Fan was the first sports talk station in Atlanta in 1993 but was flipped to news in 1997, leaving an opening for the Zone to come to be. When the Fan came back in 2000, it took several years for them to catch up – then surpass — the Zone in ratings, though it’s fair to say both stations are very competitive now during the 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. time frame during weekdays.

Dave staff was told at this morning’s meeting not to talk to me specifically. If they were found out, they’d be dismissed early. They were also told not to mention the forthcoming format flip on Facebook, Twitter or other social media. They also were not to talk about the changes on air. Sales staff has been cleared to discuss the changes with clients.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

392 comments Add your comment

VS

August 1st, 2012
9:06 am

If Dave had just played GOOD diverse music instead of the same 10 boring songs, ad nauseam. And I don’t listen to sports radio.

Slaphead

August 1st, 2012
9:10 am

680 needs to strengthen that 93.7 signal. I like Chuck and Chernoff a lot but can’t listen to TRA in the morning because the signal sucks so bad. If there’s an alternative, 680 could lose out big time here.

Chicago's WXRT is great

August 1st, 2012
9:15 am

if you like Weezer, Smashing Pumpkins, Beatles, Weezer, Smashing Pumpking, Beatles, Weezer…

Sorry to see Dave go. Loved Steve’s College of Musical Knowledge and Sunday evening programming. Sign of the times, I guess.

Rodney Ho

August 1st, 2012
9:17 am

@Slaphead Stations at signals such as 93.7, Journey 97.9 and 99X at 98.9 are FM low-power translators. I’m sure all these stations would love to up their signals but they are limited in terms of how much power they can send out legally. Ihttp://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/fm-translators-and-boosters-general-information

Brent

August 1st, 2012
9:19 am

@Rodney do you think anyone is going to change to a “greatest hits” format????

Feduponpolitics

August 1st, 2012
9:20 am

Atlanta radio is terrible. All talk, all sports, all nothing…geezzzzzz…..Hey Mara, there is an old radio station on Hwy 9 just south of Cumming. Buy it and start your own station….

Marsh

August 1st, 2012
9:21 am

Remember when they named DaveFM, after they stupidly switched the format in the first place? It was a stupid stunt around Dave Matthews, and they kept it, which was the first mistake way back in 2004. 96Rock, Z93 and 99X provided variety (such as it is in commercial radio) and DEFINED ATLANTA RADIO. Whoever said that about the laws changing and ownership going to fewer and fewer corporations has it right. They know nothing about the town, slap crap on stations that people liked after taking advice from clueless “consultants” and kill radio for hundreds of thousands of commuters that don’t want to pay for radio. Slow…clap.

MICHELE

August 1st, 2012
9:44 am

SOOOO disappointed..we have enough sports talk radio!! I LOVE Mara, Yvonne, Margot and Sully!!!
:(

Brent

August 1st, 2012
9:45 am

@Marsh, I whole heartily agree………….Big………clap.

Calling It Like It Is

August 1st, 2012
10:04 am

@idiots – The Braves and Falcons may be high now, but they sure weren’t in the 90’s. What happens when they have a bad season? Let’s not even talk about Hockey.

And translator stations – yes they are a good idea because it gets the station on the air, but the area of reception is so limited, it’s not worth it.

How many times has there been a “Greatest Hits” station format here? When people think of greatest hits, The River comes to mind or another “Oldies” station. How many times has that been on the air, only to change?

@Marsh – You are right. The media corporations that own these stations have no clue about the markets they are in. Playlists are determined by a computer and what label is paying them how much.

For the personality haters, yet claim to love the station for the music – Give Steve a programming gig and you would have one hell of a station. The guy has been around for quite a while and knows his music, whether it be Rock or Alternative.

Bravo CBS….slow, continuous clap..BRAVO..

Vicki Shapiro

August 1st, 2012
10:07 am

I’m so happy for The Mitch. He’s my lover & soul mate. He’s more talented than people give him credit. We were happy for years at the 790 then they let him go. But he’s stronger than ever.

I am concerned about the hours. Who will help me with my scrapbooking? and we like to play the Soduko together. Sometimes we put on Bruce Springsteen& do Rock Guitar. But with The Mitch working so much I just don’t know

Atl Listener

August 1st, 2012
10:10 am

One name nobody is mentionig is Sandra Golden. Well I guess that means nobody in ATL is that stupid.

Victoria

August 1st, 2012
11:16 am

This is a shame. I love Dave FM. Why would you replace such an excellent station, with excellent staff, like Mara Davis, with sports chat? Good music selection is a lost art. Bad form Caffey. Bad form.

Brent

August 1st, 2012
11:46 am

@Victoria, Dave is not a good station and never was, imo. But if that is you opinion that is your’s. But I totally agree with no sports, I am sick of putting these thug players of all colors on a pedestal, they are overpaid, and who gives a rat’s ass why someone did not catch the ball…I hope this station fails miserably and it will. WHAT AN UTTER MESS.

snottrocket

August 1st, 2012
11:51 am

Move the Steve show back to mid-days on 99x…maybe we can get that in time for the Haunted House of Retro Pleasure and the Christmasized playlists.

Todd

August 1st, 2012
11:55 am

Who cares?

August 1st, 2012
12:45 pm

“broke” Mumford and Sons and Adele? Yeah they did – the laser shoots staright through the disc now as they played them so often. Oh, and Bob Marley – really? That’s 40 years old now – there had to be something, anything, new that could be played. The Program Director lost sight of his audience long ago – is there even one there? I am considered in the prime demo group – love alternative rock – but that station lost the alternative label a couple years ago. Any kind of edge, and I am not talking the one from U-2, would have sufficed – but alas, they Dave became dull.

Brent

August 1st, 2012
1:46 pm

Stephanie

August 1st, 2012
1:47 pm

What do I love about DAVE? The music and DJs with some real PASSION and RESPECT for the music and rock & roll history. I’m talking about gems like Mara Davis and Steve Craig who have glitter and grunge under their nails! Give me someone with experience & heart, not more sports coverage or computer-programmed formats. PS: Just because Gore Vidal died today doesn’t mean I’m going to start reading Perez Hilton’s blog.

MooCow

August 1st, 2012
2:21 pm

I hate to hear this. I’ve always been such a huge fan of the 3M’s…Margot, Mara and Monet. Fingers crossed another local station picks them up soon. They’re too good to not be on the air. Best of luck to all.

Christopher Rude

August 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

what did i tell ya!? 8 pages of comments from sports-talk sales people (and nick from 790) and not one post from anybody who can name one decent rock station on satellite

Christopher Rude

August 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

8 pages of comments and nobody can name one decent rock station on satellite?

skeeter

August 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Dam!!! alot of moist comments from non-sports jocks, afterall ATL is San Fran south…..

QH5

August 1st, 2012
4:35 pm

Talk Radio sucks. RIP. – Love, Quiet Hounds

Art Howard

August 1st, 2012
5:00 pm

Everyone should just subscribe to my podcast in iTunes. http://www.ArtHowardAtNight.com.

Brent

August 1st, 2012
5:08 pm

I guess it is up to Clear Channel now, Cox won’t do anything with their disasters. 96.1, 94.9 or 105.3 should go…………..

Mellow ANG

August 1st, 2012
5:25 pm

If they land some great host. Then I will frequently tune in. The signal will be so much stronger than the other 2 stations.

sounds like a done deal

August 1st, 2012
5:49 pm

But for what it’s worth, Atlanta radio really needs 2 things, an Oldies Station with Randy and Spiff, and the KIMMER!

William

August 1st, 2012
7:00 pm

Oh cool so now I hve my choice of 3 different sports stations that will talk about how the Braves Choked and lost a compelling lead, or how next year the Atlanta Falcons will be better, or how the Atlanta Hawks are working on the fundamentals, Or how the Thrashers……oh that’s right we don’t have a hockey team anymore. Dave FM is the one station in this town that actually plays a decent mix of music and happens to be on the cutting edge of local and national music scenes. But hey, let’s talk more about sports, because 15 ESPN’s, CSS, VS, and all of the other stations on TV or the radio don’t cover enough.

Jill

August 1st, 2012
9:15 pm

The Steve Show in the morning was the only reason I listen to DaveFM in the morning. I absolutely LOATHE most morning shows, and the only good thing they do is make sure I get up in the morning just so I can turn them off. Atlanta needs to keep Steve Craig, find him a new home!

Eric

August 2nd, 2012
2:17 am

With the Atlanta sports teams… we still have the Braves, Falcons, and Hawks… and the Dream. The Trashers moved away to Canada. We have college teams GT and UGA.

As for Atlanta’s 93.7FM frequency being so weak… Macon has a 93.7FM frequency in the form of WPEZ-FM’s Z-93.7, if I’m not mistaken. I believe Birmingham has a 94.9FM frequency, which would explain’s Atlanta’s 94.9FM frequency being weak.

94.9FM, in my opinion, used to be good during the Peach and Lite FM era… before Clear Channel changed it to country music station The Bull. 96.1 used to be good as 96 Rock, before Project 9-6-1 came along. I remember 92.9FM as Z-93, 97.1FM as Fox 97, and 99.7FM as 99-X. Also remember 106.7 as a country music station (Y-106 and Eagle 106).

Atlanta has had its share of memorbale morning radio shows. Steve & Vikki… Cindy & Ray… Kelly & Alpha… Randy & Spiff. B-98 disbands Steve & Vikki, by canning Steve, and keeping Vikki. B-98 invites Kelly back, without Alpha. Star disbands Cindy & Ray, by canning Ray, and keeping Cindy. Randy & Spiff had little to no success since 2003 at being able to stay at an Atlanta radio station.

The way I see it with Atlanta radio… station management and their parent companies are very much out of touch with the audience.

Eric

August 2nd, 2012
5:18 am

With the station management and parent companies being out of touch with the audience… you’re likely to find that they rely on the so-called “focus groups”, which are not 100% reliable.

We’ve got B-98 wanting to be another Star 94 and Q-100. We’ve seen 95.5FM and 106.7FM converted from music to the news-talk-sports format. We’ve already got 680 The Fan and 790 The Zone… and don’t see the need for yet another news-talk-sports radio station. CBS needs to leave 92.9FM alone… either keeping the Dave FM name, or adopting the Jack FM name, or going back to the previous Z-93 name.

Calling It Like It Is

August 2nd, 2012
9:01 am

They do need to keep it, but not bring back the Z-93 moniker. People will associate that name with The Greaseman and all of the other OLD stuff. If they were to keep it music, they would need to get rid of the Dave name, rebrand it and stick with it. It can be done. Hell, 97.1 kept the tagline “Atlanta’s New home of classic rock” for what, 5 years?

Forget the oldies, forget Randy and Spiff, forget Kelly and Alpha….they are all in the past. Keep the music current or adopt the AOR format. There is no station that plays deeper cuts or anything other than the singles that were released. So much of the music on a CD is better than what is released to radio. Free form rock radio would be the best fit for a “lost” station. Some classic rock, new music from older bands, breaking bands, local bands. Screw Top 40, unless it’s relevant to the format. How about being a pioneer and create your own format?

Going back to the Z-93 name is taking a step backward. They need to move forward, but not with sports talk!

Brent

August 2nd, 2012
9:28 am

Brent

August 2nd, 2012
9:31 am

@Calling it like it is, here is my email, I want to run some ideas by you we seem to be on the same page

bjorgensen10@gmail.com

Thanks

Brent

Irish

August 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

What the hell. Dave was the only station that I listen to. I hooked on the Steve Show when it came on and listened the rest of the day to Mara, Yvonne, Sully and Renee. This just sucks.

Keenan Woods

August 3rd, 2012
7:55 pm

I’d love to see Rick Caffey hire former NBA player and 2007 NBA Coach of the Year Sam Mitchell and Former National Champion Georgia Bulldog and Green Bay Packer Defensive Back DJ Jones. Mitchell has also worked with NBA TV and currently host “Time Out with Sam Mitchell” Radio Show on Fox Radio AM 1460 in Columbus, Ga. Jones is a 15 year veteran Radio/TV host who currently is the Executive Producer and Cohost of Sportsvisions Atlanta which airs on Comcast ESPN2 he also is a member of the University of Georgia Football Radio Broadcast team. These guys would light up the Atlanta sports talk radio market with their great insight and knowledge. Both are very intelligent, articulant and has played the game at highest level. I have been in the market for a very long time and it would be refreshing to hear from a couple of successful African-American former players who made the media transition after professional sports. Why not… and they both live or have lived in the ATL???

Paco

August 3rd, 2012
8:00 pm

Don’t get your hopes up about rock music on Satellite radio. XM stations suck – there is nothing close to the music selection of DaveFM. Don’t know about Sirius (I know they merged, but they still maintain XM programming just about like it used to be). There is definitely no personalities on XM!!

Greg

August 5th, 2012
10:57 pm

I started keeping Dave FM on my radio after they hired Steve for the morning show. He is funny and he doesn’t have hours of tiresome celebrity gossip. I wonder if the all talk format will work. I haven’t listened one second to the last station that switched from music to all talk.

Jennifer

August 6th, 2012
6:46 pm

This REALLY bites! Thanks for selling out your loyal listeners, CBS and Rick Caffey. We have enough stupid sports….but only ONE station like Dave FM! I disagree about what you said about having a strong signal….your signal sucks and is most probably why you don’t have more listeners. We didn’t stop listening…we stopped hearing you! I live in north Georgia and my reception is awful. I didn’t even know you existed until I got a new car with a better sound system. My old car didn’t even pick you up, and I can’t pick you up at home either. Anywhere north of Gainesville has sucky reception…but we listen to fuzzy radio ANYWAY because we are sick to death of top 40 and all the other crap stations–including SPORTS– that we are offered. So thanks a lot. Jerks. I hope your sports talk station bombs.

Your formal loyal viewer, Jennifer

Amanda

August 7th, 2012
12:07 am

This is such a shame. No, they may not have had the top numbers, but it is such a great station. Great music 24/7, brilliant DJs and just a lovely break from every other station in the ATL.

92.9 has been my #1 programmed radio station in every car I’ve ever owned. I will change it the day the station changes format.

What a waste of talent and variety, something radio in this town is desperately lacking.

mary kelly

August 7th, 2012
8:15 am

I predict they’ll be off the airwaves in less than a year. Stupid move, DAVE, but
it’s what we’ve come to expect from you. However, can ‘t tell you how much I appreciate your canning that Barron as*****. What a d***. Steve, GOOD LUCK. Haunt
them from another station in Atlanta.