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Confirmed: rock station 92.9/Dave FM going sports talk in the early fall

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The rumors began circulating heavily about a month ago: 92.9/Dave FM was going sports talk.

This morning, the rumors became truth. General manager Rick Caffey gathered the entire staff to inform them that in late September or early October, the rock station will become an FM sports talk station.

Management did not let anybody go this morning. At least for the next few weeks, the on-air staff and music mix shall remain the same.

Caffey, in an exclusive interview this morning, said he’d like to have a local presence in all key time slots but that may not be the case in the very beginning.

“Our accent will be local personalities,” he said, noting that personalities are what has helped carry sister hip-hop station V-103 all these years. “The fundamentals will be finding interesting, compelling personalities that not only do great radio but are out and about in the community. We’re looking at a combination of ex jocks, ex coaches and broadcasters.” He’d like them to have local ties but that’ s not a necessity.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

There has been no official on-air hires yet, though Dave FM recently gave sports newscaster Mitch Evans a full-time job, an early clue to the impending changes. “I imagine we’ll find a spot for him,” Caffey said.

The 2 Live Stews, who have been with 790/The Zone the past decade, have seen their profiles dim the past 18 months on the station. They are now part of a “team” show called the Red Zone mid-days. Their contract is up at the end of the year with the Zone and could potentially jump to 92.9. Other personalities on rival stations such as Mike Bell at the Zone and Christopher Rude and John Kincade on 680/The Fan are tied up in contracts for quite a bit longer, according to their agent Norm Schrutt.

The new sports station has hired a new program director: Terry Foxx, most recently program director at The Fan in Pittsburgh. “Working with him will be inspiring and I’m confident you’ll also be motivated by his work ethic and energetic personality,” Caffey said in a memo to staff this morning.

An official name hasn’t been dubbed yet for the sports station, In other markets, CBS has names such as the Hub and the Ticket.

A change of format is not a surprise. Eight-year-old Dave FM’s ratings have cratered the past year and recent signs of improvement were too modest to make a difference.

One of Caffey’s biggest disappointments with Dave was the inability to find a successful morning team, which is a key anchor for most successful music stations. The station went through at least six shows over eight years: Steve Barnes and Holly Firfer, Firfer with Tim Orff, Zakk Tyler, Orff alone, Jimmy Baron and Yvonne Monet and in recent months, Steve Craig.

Caffey noted the difficulty in this day and age to find good talent in smaller markets. “The farm system isn’t what it used to be,” he said. Many smaller stations now run syndicated product or go jockless in evenings, nights and weekends. Those were the time slots where management used to nurture raw talent but not anymore.

He had a hard time pinpointing why Dave lost so much mojo since early last year, when it was a top 10 station. It shed  more than half its audience by this past spring, with the lowest ratings of any major FM signal in town. “It’s a very crowded landscape,” Caffey noted, in the rock arena in Atlanta, which currently has five stations playing the format. Besides Dave, there’s 97.1/The River, Rock 100.5, Project 9-6-1 and 99X.

Many music fans have reduced or stopped listening to old-school FM radio. They are now using Slacker, Pandora, Spotify and a host of other on-line only sites to access music they want without the jock talk and with far fewer ads. But personality talk radio can’t be replicated like a jukebox.

Although Dave has never been able to be a consistent top performer in ratings, it was able to count on what Caffey calls “qualitatives.” This is the same argument NBC uses to keep shows like “30 Rock” and “Parks and Recreation” around. The listeners are high income and very involved in the music they listen to.

Dave has been shifting its music mix around the past two years, trying to find the right blend, but it has stuck to a core of artists from day one such as Dave Matthews, U2, the Police and Tom Petty.  As an “adult alternative” blend, the station broke artists in Atlanta such as Adele, Florence + the Machine, Mumford & Sons and the Avett Brothers.

mara-davis-300x240Rock has been on 92.9 for more than 20 years. Before Dave, it was Z93, a classic rock format until 2004. The only holdover personality from those days, Mara Davis (left), has anchored mid-days since the early days of Dave.

Of the on-air staff, she will probably have the easiest time finding a new job. Schrutt, her agent, has already begun fielding calls from rival stations. The two most obvious homes for Mara: Rock 100. 5or 97.1/The River.

In recent years, CBS, the owner of Dave FM, has brought sports talk to FM in several markets, including Boston, Detroit, Dallas and soon to come, Tampa.

This will create a major battle royale in Atlanta, which already has two well-established sports talk stations: 680/The Fan (simulcast on 93.7) and 790/The Zone. Many major markets have two successful sports talk stations. Very few have three. Dallas has three sports stations, for instance, though I’m not sure if all three are thriving.

“CBS is really good at sports talk,” said Schrutt, who represents several personalities in town, including Cindy Simmons of Star 94, Melissa Carter at All News 106.7 and several of the aforementioned sports talk personalities. “It’s hard to believe a third sports station will be successful, but they clearly see something here that I don’t see.”

With AM stations losing audience, many are seeking FM homes. 680/The Fan added a 93.7 FM simulcast in late 2010. 790/The Zone is at a distinct disadvantage with a weaker night signal and no home on the FM dial.

“The percentage of people who don’t even listen to AM on a regular basis is going up,” said Tom Taylor, who has followed radio news for years and runs the www.radio-info.com site. “In some markets, it’s more than 50 percent. You can reach younger people easier on the FM dial.”

92.9 is a far stronger signal than the Fan’s 93.7 and will cover the entire market more completely than either AM signal, especially at night.

Sources tell me there were talks for 92.9 to possibly lease 790/The Zone’s programming but that never came to be. CBS, which is putting together a national network as well, will be doing this on their own. Interestingly, CBS is working with Atlanta-based Cumulus to help distribute that national network.

The new sports station will not have exclusive broadcasting rights to any major team though Caffey said it will consider bidding for rights in the future when they become available.

Dave FM actually had the Atlanta Falcons broadcasts for seven years until last year but Caffey said there was never any serious consideration to change format to sports talk at the time. The Atlanta Braves right now are tied up with Rock 100.5 and the Fan. The Hawks are aired on the Fan as well. The Zone has the Falcons and Georgia Tech. 95.5FM and AM750 News/Talk WSB has been the home to the University of Georgia Bulldogs football for many years.

Sports talk is appealing, Taylor said, because “it’s very salable. It has an emotional component. People want to be associated with the format talking about local teams, local loyalties. And the talk is far less controversial than politics.”

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Fred Toucher (left) and Rich Shertenlieb, former 99Xers, have done well in Boston at a sports talk station.

Nationally, some sports stations do well, some don’t, like any other format. CBS’s sports stations in Detroit and Boston (which features former Atlanta/99X jocks Rich Shertenlieb and Fred Toucher) are pulling in big audiences. Its Dallas sports station is struggling.

The overall ratings for the Fan and the Zone over the years have never looked all that impressive. But both cater to a very specific, sought-after male audience that advertisers are willing to pay a premium for.

In fact, the heads of both stations put on brave faces in the face of the new rival, using the same analogy: a rising tide lifts all boats.

“This is a healthy format for a number of reasons,” said Andrew Saltzman, president of the Zone. “We deliver live and local exclusive content you can’t find on Pandora or satellite. On Monday morning, you can celebrate or commiserate about the Atlanta Falcons and have only live and local sports radio to go. The Zone is the leader of the pack. We take competition very seriously. We’ll do everything to protect and build our brand. We have a 15-year heritage history. We’re one of the top 10 billing sports talk stations in the country. We feel very comfortable with what we’re putting out there on the air.”

David Dickey, who runs the Fan, said it takes time to build a sports talk brand.

“To do it right, you must invest in people. You must invest in marketing. You must invest in promotions and partnerships. Just invest in time,” he said. “After the confetti falls, you have to do the work.”

The Fan was the first sports talk station in Atlanta in 1993 but was flipped to news in 1997, leaving an opening for the Zone to come to be. When the Fan came back in 2000, it took several years for them to catch up – then surpass — the Zone in ratings, though it’s fair to say both stations are very competitive now during the 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. time frame during weekdays.

Dave staff was told at this morning’s meeting not to talk to me specifically. If they were found out, they’d be dismissed early. They were also told not to mention the forthcoming format flip on Facebook, Twitter or other social media. They also were not to talk about the changes on air. Sales staff has been cleared to discuss the changes with clients.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

392 comments Add your comment

Ron Swanson

July 31st, 2012
2:37 pm

Which local guys would be available for this new station? That will be the key in determining whether 92.9 can gain traction. It’s my belief that most listeners prefer local content–who cares to listen to an hour of non-stop Yankees/Red Sox talk in ATL, for example–so they’ll need to put together a solid lineup. You can hear national content anywhere/anytime. That’s not going to attract listeners.

BJ

July 31st, 2012
2:38 pm

Damn!! Only music station I regularly listen to anymore! LOVE Mara Davis!!!

Bandan

July 31st, 2012
2:39 pm

NOOOOOOO!!! Don’t take away DAVE FM!!! Great concerts, great mix!

lil tut "imadodadamthing" wallace

July 31st, 2012
2:42 pm

too much BLAH BLAH BLAH on the radio already….

Sneakers O'Toole

July 31st, 2012
2:42 pm

Not that the new sports would be built this way, but if I had to build my ATL sports talk line up…
6-10 Mayhem
10-12 Barnhart & Durham
12-3 Archer & Bell (Maybe add in Sandra)
3-7 Chuck & Chernoff
Slot in Kincade with one of those shows.

Hit the road Rude, Leo, Buck and Stews.

david

July 31st, 2012
2:43 pm

This should be the end of 1 of the 2 other sports radio stations. I don’t expect the new radio station to recycle 680/790 talent. The Steward brothers lost most of their US station a few months before have their hour cut on 790.

I expect new talent like Bill King, and other talent from Yahoo radio. Yes, I think Yahoo will dump 790. Which hopefully means Steve Zaben morning show will be here. Should be a good fall for sports radio.

TPM

July 31st, 2012
2:44 pm

Will this be the end of 790 the zone? This town can not support 3 stations with the same format.

Christopher Rude

July 31st, 2012
2:45 pm

Christopher Rude

July 31st, 2012
2:49 pm

to all the satellite snobs…name one decent rock station on satellite? my channel hopping on satellite radio rivals my channel hopping on TV!

Ron Swanson

July 31st, 2012
2:52 pm

david

Why would Yahoo dump 790? Where else would they go in this market?

FenrirIII

July 31st, 2012
2:56 pm

When will the good rock stations in this city stop selling out? Every time a rock station starts to grow on me it sells out or gets sold to become some crappy clone of another station. Big business is ruining radio.

david

July 31st, 2012
2:57 pm

Ron

They would go to 92.9

aaa

July 31st, 2012
3:00 pm

Won’t listen to the Stews. And who told Bell that he was funny? They were lying.

Julie

July 31st, 2012
3:00 pm

Does any other station in Atlanta play Mumford & Sons, Alabama Shakes, Shawn Mullins, Grace Potter & the Nocturnals, Avett Brothers, Ray LaMontagne, Guster, The Decembrists, The Head and the Heart, The Shins, The Luminers, Imagine Dragons, etc.? I will miss DaveFM.

Ron Swanson

July 31st, 2012
3:01 pm

david

Oh, OK. My mistake. I misunderstood the report and thought CBS was going to produce its own national content for their sports stations.

drew

July 31st, 2012
3:05 pm

“Many music fans have reduced or stopped listening to old-school FM radio.”

Good riddance…it’ll be a great day when commercial music radio dies. I quit listening to music on commercial radio years ago. Commercial radio SUCKSASS in Atlanta! Personally, I can do without the OLD worn out songs that the loudmouths occasionally sprinkle in between the never-ending commercials and the constant chatter of wannabe comedians.

If you want good music on local radio, you have to go non-commercial: WRFG (89.3FM), WRAS (88.5FM), WREK (91.1). And as bad as a lot of talk radio is, it’s still better than the music commercial stations are pushing.

FalconsDiva

July 31st, 2012
3:06 pm

If the Stews make their way to 92.9, I’ll be right behind them. Please bring back my favorite midday sports show – in its original format, not that watered down poo 790 has on air.

“Welcome to the Terror Dome!!”

Dian

July 31st, 2012
3:06 pm

This. Totally. Sucks.

Marie

July 31st, 2012
3:07 pm

Julie – AMEN!

david

July 31st, 2012
3:08 pm

Your right Ron, and NBC Sports is also going to start a radio network too. 790 is only using Yahoo on late night and weekends. There is too much good radio talent on Yahoo not to be live in the Atlanta market. Tim Brando is on Yahoo sports radio and his is on CBS cable sport channel. So they could have Yahoo and CBS sports radio on the same station.

Longtime Listener

July 31st, 2012
3:10 pm

I thought DaveFM was the best of the worst but they went wrong when they really skewed to the female listeners with grating personalities like Mara Davis, the Jersey Girl wannabe. Guys like soft alt-rock too but we can’t stomach the best-pal girl talk from the DJs. When not trying to do mornings, Yvonne Monet is the best, BTW.

Ron Swanson

July 31st, 2012
3:10 pm

david

Yeah, that makes sense. I would think Brando’s show would play pretty well here, especially compared to the other syndicated alternatives.

sweejie

July 31st, 2012
3:15 pm

Who else will supply my Amos Lee fix???

Stews Rock

July 31st, 2012
3:16 pm

ever notice how Steak frequently sounds as tho he’s doing #2 while he’s talking? especially when he sez that “things I learned today” riff….just sayin…..

Dennis

July 31st, 2012
3:19 pm

aaa: “And who told Bell that he was funny?”

I really tried to listen Archer & Bell, hoping I could get past Mike’s Vince Vaughn wannabe schtick. I gave up yesterday when he turned a nice conversation into his Tony Montana “hey here’s my Hispanic voice ain’t it funny” routine.

Would love to hear of Archer, Barnhardt, and Durham at new station. They have information and don’t rely on any gimmicks.

Get with the program

July 31st, 2012
3:25 pm

I think they(92.9) should get Cellini and Dimino from 790. They shouldnt let SteAK anywhere near this station. He is horrible. I dont know why 790 put that ignorant guy (Hans I think)with the Stews. He is horrible. Bell and Archer are good. 790’s problem is that they are too rude to their callers in the morning……too many hangups. Maybe the new station will be more interactive.

Donna

July 31st, 2012
3:30 pm

So now our choices are stations with immature men acting like boys or pop music. For Atlanta to be so diverse, their radio stations aren’t. There was and still is a market for them. I hope the sports station sinks. Can’t wait to move back to Florida. At least I have choices there.

Word of Advice

July 31st, 2012
3:33 pm

The 680 morning show is a train wreck, with Leo the “Braves can do no wrong” neanderthal and Sandra the “I sold so many ads they put me on the radio” bimbo.

teri

July 31st, 2012
3:41 pm

This totally sucks!! First they take my oldies off(106.7) and turn it into ALL news and now taking 92.9(Dave) off is the icing on the cake!! Time to call the XM people back.

A Man for Decent Atlanta Radio

July 31st, 2012
3:46 pm

Seriously?! I used to listen to 99X until Cumulus pulled it, so switched to a very good alternative in DaveFM. Now it’s disappearing and 99X’s signal is horrible. I can’t even pick it up in my office by Perimeter Mall, ironically less than 5 miles from the station. So now Atlanta will have no radio station worth listening to for those who enjoy alternative music. Thanks CBS and Cumulus, you’ve killed radio. As for Steve Craig, man, I’m gonna miss you.

Why?

July 31st, 2012
3:48 pm

@Word of Advice …..I don’t mind Leo but CAN”T stand Sandra. I would love to see the ratings comparing when she is and isn’t on the show.

lil tut "imadodadamthing" wallace

July 31st, 2012
4:02 pm

ok folks, fase it. altanta is a sports town. we got the braves, the falcons, the hawks, the thrashers, the silverbacks, the dream…. u name it. these sports is what keep the city going, and without 92.9 the HUB, ther woulnd be any other place to keep up!

OTP

July 31st, 2012
4:05 pm

What a joke! I might as well remove the radio from my vehicle.

Carz

July 31st, 2012
4:07 pm

If they bring in the Stews it will sink. It may start with a flurry, with them being on FM, but they are so bad it will fade fast. Ryan knows suprisingly little about football for a guy who was on an NFL roster.

☺☻Have A Smile!

July 31st, 2012
4:07 pm

While everybody else is suffering listening to free “radio” I’ll be enjoying Opie & Anthony with Jim Norton uncensored on XM.

I love it! :)

A.B. Normal

July 31st, 2012
4:12 pm

One word – Pandora.

SAD

July 31st, 2012
4:21 pm

Sunday mornings will never be the same…some awesome acoustic songs

Jacksmum

July 31st, 2012
4:26 pm

Worst idea ever…will delete this station from my rotation.

Michael

July 31st, 2012
4:38 pm

Bummer! I moved to Atlanta in 1990 after college and was turned on to Z93. I’ve been here the whole time and rarely has my dial changed. Guess I’ll be following the River. Mara, I hope you find a local home.

ralph

July 31st, 2012
4:42 pm

I listen to 97.9, all 80s and 90s! when I am not on Sirius XM. Mara Davis is the rock radio goddess!

Miss Q

July 31st, 2012
4:47 pm

Noooooo!!!!! Davefm is the ONLY Atlanta station left worth listening to at all. Yvonne was great at mornings and I keep an ear out for her every time I’m in the car listening. This is sad. Guess I’ll have to start paying for satellite. :-(

IMAMELF

July 31st, 2012
4:47 pm

Mara Rocks! Why not have a comedian station? Have a Jeff Dunham hour, a Carlin hour, Hackett hour and then some hours for the Sistas and Brothas that want the filth hour of Pryor and Chris Rock etc. Then return to Cosby and Rita Rudner and Ron White and Foxworthy. Now THAT would be a new channel- hosted by, The GREASEMAN!

Why would anyone listen to another station talk about the FAILCANTS?

July 31st, 2012
4:54 pm

Seriously, you have NO SB RING, ZERO PLAYOFF WINS UNDER FAT BOY MIKE AND LITTLE TOMMY AND YOUR QB CAN’T THROW MORE THAN 10 YARDS….joke of a franchise…kiss the SAINTS SB RING, FAILCANTS..

C

July 31st, 2012
4:55 pm

No way Atlanta can support three sports talk stations. Someone will have to go…
that being said, I hope they make a push to bring Toucher and Rich back home. Their show in Boston is great radio.

LMAO

July 31st, 2012
4:55 pm

Wow…Time for the Stews to blow off their current digs. Which has become the worst talk show in this town.Doug and Ryan are good at what they do. Their Schizt is great. I’ll add Mike Bell and Chris Domino.

TVFan

July 31st, 2012
4:59 pm

I just hope they pick up Georgia Tech Football and Basketball broadcasts. I never thought 790 the Zone was a good fit for Tech sports.

TYB Beach Bum

July 31st, 2012
5:00 pm

Don’t we have enough sports talk radio already? This EFFING sucks and is a terrible move. I listen to 92.9 all day every day at work, it’s the ONLY station in ATL worth listening to.

Brad

July 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

I’ll REALLY miss acoustic sunrise on Sunday mornings

David Puddy

July 31st, 2012
5:06 pm

“chuck and chernoff?? lol the worst most annoying tandem on the radio”

Couldn’t say it any better.They are horrible.

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