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Confirmed: rock station 92.9/Dave FM going sports talk in the early fall

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The rumors began circulating heavily about a month ago: 92.9/Dave FM was going sports talk.

This morning, the rumors became truth. General manager Rick Caffey gathered the entire staff to inform them that in late September or early October, the rock station will become an FM sports talk station.

Management did not let anybody go this morning. At least for the next few weeks, the on-air staff and music mix shall remain the same.

Caffey, in an exclusive interview this morning, said he’d like to have a local presence in all key time slots but that may not be the case in the very beginning.

“Our accent will be local personalities,” he said, noting that personalities are what has helped carry sister hip-hop station V-103 all these years. “The fundamentals will be finding interesting, compelling personalities that not only do great radio but are out and about in the community. We’re looking at a combination of ex jocks, ex coaches and broadcasters.” He’d like them to have local ties but that’ s not a necessity.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

There has been no official on-air hires yet, though Dave FM recently gave sports newscaster Mitch Evans a full-time job, an early clue to the impending changes. “I imagine we’ll find a spot for him,” Caffey said.

The 2 Live Stews, who have been with 790/The Zone the past decade, have seen their profiles dim the past 18 months on the station. They are now part of a “team” show called the Red Zone mid-days. Their contract is up at the end of the year with the Zone and could potentially jump to 92.9. Other personalities on rival stations such as Mike Bell at the Zone and Christopher Rude and John Kincade on 680/The Fan are tied up in contracts for quite a bit longer, according to their agent Norm Schrutt.

The new sports station has hired a new program director: Terry Foxx, most recently program director at The Fan in Pittsburgh. “Working with him will be inspiring and I’m confident you’ll also be motivated by his work ethic and energetic personality,” Caffey said in a memo to staff this morning.

An official name hasn’t been dubbed yet for the sports station, In other markets, CBS has names such as the Hub and the Ticket.

A change of format is not a surprise. Eight-year-old Dave FM’s ratings have cratered the past year and recent signs of improvement were too modest to make a difference.

One of Caffey’s biggest disappointments with Dave was the inability to find a successful morning team, which is a key anchor for most successful music stations. The station went through at least six shows over eight years: Steve Barnes and Holly Firfer, Firfer with Tim Orff, Zakk Tyler, Orff alone, Jimmy Baron and Yvonne Monet and in recent months, Steve Craig.

Caffey noted the difficulty in this day and age to find good talent in smaller markets. “The farm system isn’t what it used to be,” he said. Many smaller stations now run syndicated product or go jockless in evenings, nights and weekends. Those were the time slots where management used to nurture raw talent but not anymore.

He had a hard time pinpointing why Dave lost so much mojo since early last year, when it was a top 10 station. It shed  more than half its audience by this past spring, with the lowest ratings of any major FM signal in town. “It’s a very crowded landscape,” Caffey noted, in the rock arena in Atlanta, which currently has five stations playing the format. Besides Dave, there’s 97.1/The River, Rock 100.5, Project 9-6-1 and 99X.

Many music fans have reduced or stopped listening to old-school FM radio. They are now using Slacker, Pandora, Spotify and a host of other on-line only sites to access music they want without the jock talk and with far fewer ads. But personality talk radio can’t be replicated like a jukebox.

Although Dave has never been able to be a consistent top performer in ratings, it was able to count on what Caffey calls “qualitatives.” This is the same argument NBC uses to keep shows like “30 Rock” and “Parks and Recreation” around. The listeners are high income and very involved in the music they listen to.

Dave has been shifting its music mix around the past two years, trying to find the right blend, but it has stuck to a core of artists from day one such as Dave Matthews, U2, the Police and Tom Petty.  As an “adult alternative” blend, the station broke artists in Atlanta such as Adele, Florence + the Machine, Mumford & Sons and the Avett Brothers.

mara-davis-300x240Rock has been on 92.9 for more than 20 years. Before Dave, it was Z93, a classic rock format until 2004. The only holdover personality from those days, Mara Davis (left), has anchored mid-days since the early days of Dave.

Of the on-air staff, she will probably have the easiest time finding a new job. Schrutt, her agent, has already begun fielding calls from rival stations. The two most obvious homes for Mara: Rock 100. 5or 97.1/The River.

In recent years, CBS, the owner of Dave FM, has brought sports talk to FM in several markets, including Boston, Detroit, Dallas and soon to come, Tampa.

This will create a major battle royale in Atlanta, which already has two well-established sports talk stations: 680/The Fan (simulcast on 93.7) and 790/The Zone. Many major markets have two successful sports talk stations. Very few have three. Dallas has three sports stations, for instance, though I’m not sure if all three are thriving.

“CBS is really good at sports talk,” said Schrutt, who represents several personalities in town, including Cindy Simmons of Star 94, Melissa Carter at All News 106.7 and several of the aforementioned sports talk personalities. “It’s hard to believe a third sports station will be successful, but they clearly see something here that I don’t see.”

With AM stations losing audience, many are seeking FM homes. 680/The Fan added a 93.7 FM simulcast in late 2010. 790/The Zone is at a distinct disadvantage with a weaker night signal and no home on the FM dial.

“The percentage of people who don’t even listen to AM on a regular basis is going up,” said Tom Taylor, who has followed radio news for years and runs the www.radio-info.com site. “In some markets, it’s more than 50 percent. You can reach younger people easier on the FM dial.”

92.9 is a far stronger signal than the Fan’s 93.7 and will cover the entire market more completely than either AM signal, especially at night.

Sources tell me there were talks for 92.9 to possibly lease 790/The Zone’s programming but that never came to be. CBS, which is putting together a national network as well, will be doing this on their own. Interestingly, CBS is working with Atlanta-based Cumulus to help distribute that national network.

The new sports station will not have exclusive broadcasting rights to any major team though Caffey said it will consider bidding for rights in the future when they become available.

Dave FM actually had the Atlanta Falcons broadcasts for seven years until last year but Caffey said there was never any serious consideration to change format to sports talk at the time. The Atlanta Braves right now are tied up with Rock 100.5 and the Fan. The Hawks are aired on the Fan as well. The Zone has the Falcons and Georgia Tech. 95.5FM and AM750 News/Talk WSB has been the home to the University of Georgia Bulldogs football for many years.

Sports talk is appealing, Taylor said, because “it’s very salable. It has an emotional component. People want to be associated with the format talking about local teams, local loyalties. And the talk is far less controversial than politics.”

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Fred Toucher (left) and Rich Shertenlieb, former 99Xers, have done well in Boston at a sports talk station.

Nationally, some sports stations do well, some don’t, like any other format. CBS’s sports stations in Detroit and Boston (which features former Atlanta/99X jocks Rich Shertenlieb and Fred Toucher) are pulling in big audiences. Its Dallas sports station is struggling.

The overall ratings for the Fan and the Zone over the years have never looked all that impressive. But both cater to a very specific, sought-after male audience that advertisers are willing to pay a premium for.

In fact, the heads of both stations put on brave faces in the face of the new rival, using the same analogy: a rising tide lifts all boats.

“This is a healthy format for a number of reasons,” said Andrew Saltzman, president of the Zone. “We deliver live and local exclusive content you can’t find on Pandora or satellite. On Monday morning, you can celebrate or commiserate about the Atlanta Falcons and have only live and local sports radio to go. The Zone is the leader of the pack. We take competition very seriously. We’ll do everything to protect and build our brand. We have a 15-year heritage history. We’re one of the top 10 billing sports talk stations in the country. We feel very comfortable with what we’re putting out there on the air.”

David Dickey, who runs the Fan, said it takes time to build a sports talk brand.

“To do it right, you must invest in people. You must invest in marketing. You must invest in promotions and partnerships. Just invest in time,” he said. “After the confetti falls, you have to do the work.”

The Fan was the first sports talk station in Atlanta in 1993 but was flipped to news in 1997, leaving an opening for the Zone to come to be. When the Fan came back in 2000, it took several years for them to catch up – then surpass — the Zone in ratings, though it’s fair to say both stations are very competitive now during the 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. time frame during weekdays.

Dave staff was told at this morning’s meeting not to talk to me specifically. If they were found out, they’d be dismissed early. They were also told not to mention the forthcoming format flip on Facebook, Twitter or other social media. They also were not to talk about the changes on air. Sales staff has been cleared to discuss the changes with clients.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

392 comments Add your comment

buckhead benny

July 31st, 2012
1:15 pm

I am sure Dickey will figure out a way to enhance their signal fyi soon now that there is a different player in the market- When you only have 790 the Zone I don’t think there was any urgency- I am sure since they do own radio stations across the country that they know the technology needed or know the companies or radio signals to buy in the burbs to enhance the signals for the FM bandwidth.

Just my gut, but I would bet Cumulous media has the resources and the technology know how to make that happen.

Smart Move

July 31st, 2012
1:16 pm

Two things are clear here:

1. If NYC and Boston, the two best sports markets for talk only have two stations then a bottom feeder market like ATL will NEVER have 3.

2. CBS knows this fact and finds itself in a very good position strategically. Consider:

a. One of the two sports stations has no FM signal and cant be heard in half the city. CBS has an FM signal that can be heard everywhere.

b. CBS is launching a sports network to compete with ESPN radio. Suddenly they find themselves in a large market with a new sports station that needs syndicated programming – coincidence? Get real.

Word of advice: do not make the mistake of recycling the same lame talent that seems to bounce from one sports station here to the other. They have no loyal following, are not compelling, and you should expect no different. There is room for new voices to rise up and produce good talk. Just poaching the same ratings losers wont get you anywhere.

Dan

July 31st, 2012
1:16 pm

Meh, the station was terribly repetitive and Mara was uncomfortably unfunny. No big loss.

A Different Jeff

July 31st, 2012
1:17 pm

This is a smart business move. As Rodney’s post on Pandora indicated, terrestrial music radio is dying, so those stations have to find something to replace it with. Things like news, talk, sports, etc. fit the bill.

I imagine that in a year, 92.9 will be about 50% syndication and 50% local shows, with hosts picked off from 790. The Zone will be dead or dying, and the Fan will be working to boost its signal so it can be heard better OTP.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

July 31st, 2012
1:17 pm

Just what Atlanta needs, more sports talk radio..

Acting!!!

Brilliant!!!

Hirsutedawg

July 31st, 2012
1:17 pm

Bring back the Bottom Line…… best damn sports show ever on ATL radio.

Big Chill

July 31st, 2012
1:17 pm

I’m bummed. I was unhappy when they got rid of Carter (traffic) and then Jimmy & Yvonne in the a.m. You can’t compare this to those other staions. 92.9 has a great mix, no hard rock. Important question – what about Rocco, The Green Guru?

Marketing Guru

July 31st, 2012
1:18 pm

Steak and the gang are ok if you have the sense of humor of a seventh grader.
That one guy is a genuine moron, though. You know, the bald one with the goatee.

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bearcrazyman

July 31st, 2012
1:19 pm

What a mistake to take down a 20+ year old rock station. Who the frig wants to listen to sports talk?
Invigga Please!

World's Second Oldest teenager

July 31st, 2012
1:19 pm

Both 680 the fan and 790 the zone do fine jobs of giving us good sports/talk. I wish we had a really great music station coming to DAVE instead of another sports/talk station. Other than Scott Shannon’s True Oldies channel, we have not had a decent radio station to listen to in many years. I would have loved to see that format come back or if we stick to newer music, then I would like to see the much discussed alternative pop radio format finally get going here. Mainstream acts like Adele, Gaga, etc along with alternative acts like Depeche Mode, Talking Heads, and others of that style, except please …no Sting or Police…they are much overated.

STFU

July 31st, 2012
1:19 pm

Hear a lot of compelling caller / host exchange on ATL sports radio, do ya? Call any show on either station and tell me how long it takes for you to get on the air.

Bummed

July 31st, 2012
1:21 pm

I like DaveFM better than most of the current Atlanta FM stations. I especially like Mara. I hope she lands somewhere else in Atlanta. I hate talk radio. I hope their new venture fails miserably. But it will probably do OK. Instead of playing the Police every 5 minutes they can just say Go Dawgs every 5 minutes and plenty of Atlantans will tune in and listen to the rest of the banality.

2 live Moes

July 31st, 2012
1:21 pm

If 92.9 puts “The 2 live Moe’s” on there station, it’s a guarantee I will not be listening. Those guys are awful

Boogie Fever

July 31st, 2012
1:28 pm

I hate to hear it, but I’m not surprised. Dave got really repetitive, and the only times I listened were if I happened to be in the car while Mara or Margot was on, and that was more because of their personalities and knowledge of music – the tracks that were actually played weren’t that great. And changing to a sports radio format isn’t going to help. There’s already too much talk radio in Atlanta!

If you want a station with real personality and variety, listen to Album 88. That and WABE are the only stations I listen to now.

Reid in EAV

July 31st, 2012
1:31 pm

Hate it for my friend and neighbor Margot, especially. Hope there’s a happy ending for her. In the meantime I am declaring the local commercial band OVER. Nothing but non-comms for me from here on out.

Les

July 31st, 2012
1:33 pm

I will become an instant listener if they pick-up the 2-Live Stews.

Willydoit?

July 31st, 2012
1:33 pm

Nick Cillini and Chris Dimino were two of the best and funniest sports guys in Atlanta…then they messed up their show by adding Steak Shipiro!
Sorry for the spelling of the names….not a big enough sports fan to learn how to spell them correctly.

680'sFAN

July 31st, 2012
1:36 pm

How can you all stomach the 2 Live Stews? I’ve tried a couple of times and couldn’t take the barking and all the over-the-top circus stuff. I’m a hip-hop guy– but that forced, crazy $#!* is NOT what I want to hear when I’m wanting to hear about sports.

Thanks for nothing.

July 31st, 2012
1:36 pm

Atlanta finally had a rock station that played a variety of rock music instead of the same songs over and over lke Z-93 and the River. All those stations did was make me hate my favorite music. Dave even introduced me newer acts that I have learned to enjoy.

Listening to a bunch of jock wannabes jabber about overpaid thugs and ne’er-do-wells is about as exciting as listen to women jabber about shoes.

92.9 – DELETE
Glad I have a 32GB music player in the car.

billy bob

July 31st, 2012
1:36 pm

V103 will always dominate in atlanta,i mean if all of you had’nt noticed atlanta is kinda “dark”

680'sFAN

July 31st, 2012
1:39 pm

I also wonder if 680 will make a move to a better FM signal. The 93.7 doesn’t pick up well outside of the city.

John Hall

July 31st, 2012
1:42 pm

It was only a matter of time….growing up in Atlanta I have seen it all. Though I don’t live there anymore I remember when college radio brought out the really good stuff. For profit stations picked up on it and things were good for a long time….remember 96 rock!….remember the first song they played? The WHO!…those were the days……….music was great in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and until recently was worth listening to….now there is nothing left worth listening to…..all I do now is go to utube and crank up the WHo, Stones and Yes to name a few…….so it is no the fault of the personalites……..the times…they have changed!

zem

July 31st, 2012
1:42 pm

Not happy. Listened to Z93 for many years and have listened to Dave ever since it changed. Will go wherever Mara goes.

what_what

July 31st, 2012
1:45 pm

sadly no big deal….this station had no respect for the music; constantly talked over it and didn’t have the best rotation. and mara davis? annoying….still remember when she had her mom in the studio a few years ago. yeesh. as usual, another fm radio station that doesn’t understand that people want to listen to music and not incessant babbling.

damnthatradiolistener

July 31st, 2012
1:48 pm

88.5 had a lot to do with this, as well as sucking recently

nakia

July 31st, 2012
1:48 pm

come on over 2 love stews to a whole new world

Marie

July 31st, 2012
1:50 pm

I love Sully-keep him. He knows sports.

Tiffany

July 31st, 2012
1:51 pm

Well, that sucks. I like Dave FM way better than any of the other radio stations in town. They play such a good mix of music, and I like Mara a ton. I hate sports – why do we need a third sports station in town?!?

darryl oates

July 31st, 2012
1:53 pm

hey john hall,you need to quit living in the past,your out of touch and i’m out of time

Marsh

July 31st, 2012
1:57 pm

First, all you “who listens to radio?” idiots – just leave the room, already. I’m sick of your asinine comments about terrestrial radio. Hate it? Stop reading and commenting on it – what a novel idea.

Wasn’t Steve Craig just recently slapped on the back for being the greatest and now he’s getting the can? Way to go, Atlanta. Finally get a morning personality (back) that’s worth hearing, plays some music, spends an afternoon broadcasting with Mike Mills, and fire him. We’ll miss you, Steve.

I admit being sick of the Police, but it was the only music station left that was at all tolerable. Sports talk? The lowest form of entertainment. Boo.

Tresca

July 31st, 2012
2:00 pm

THIS TOTALLY SUCKS!

Rob

July 31st, 2012
2:00 pm

its Obama’s fault!!!… or Romneys, or Bush’s, or probably goes all the way back to Nixon!….

Rob

July 31st, 2012
2:02 pm

Marsh…. your brain is ……..oh forget it, not stooping to that level!

David Puddy

July 31st, 2012
2:04 pm

Let’s move Chuck & Turnoff over to the new gig and hide them forever.

Marsh

July 31st, 2012
2:05 pm

rob, didn’t I tell you how stupid you are elsewhere? Let’s stick to that.

Dennis

July 31st, 2012
2:08 pm

“Sister station KDKA (THE FAN)/PITTSBURGH PD TERRY FOXX will join the station to handle programming.”

This is from Allaccess.com. Think I’ll listen to KDKA for a few to get an idea of what the new PD is bringing..

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Sport

July 31st, 2012
2:11 pm

Who cares? Seriously, Atlanta is the worst radio market on the planet. A redneck sports station won’t help.

StingerSplash

July 31st, 2012
2:14 pm

Just what Atlanta needs – another underwhelming sports talk station. More mindless boobs on the airwaves than Playboy Radio.

Captain Herb

July 31st, 2012
2:15 pm

Can somebody possibly remove the anti-Semitic comments from the site?

Dennis

July 31st, 2012
2:17 pm

Finding interesting things while searching this topic on the web… from Inside Radio:

Atlanta’s “Dave FM” to go sports.
Two decades of rock will come to an end this fall when CBS Radio flips adult alternative “92.9 Dave FM” WZGC, Atlanta to sports. It’s the latest embrace of the format by CBS Radio ahead of its launch of a new national sports radio network in January. The company has also announced plans to launch a sports FM in Tampa on what is today hot AC “Play 98.7” WSJT. CBS says “93.7 The Fan” KDKA-FM, Pittsburgh program director Terry Foxx is heading to Atlanta to build “Sports Radio 92.9.”

SO that’s the new name: Sports Radio 92.9. Looks like we probably will get some Rome and Brando. Will be interested to see how they fit local personalities in. Like I said before, I’ll be listening to some KDKA now to get an idea of what to expect.

Lauren

July 31st, 2012
2:18 pm

So bummed to hear this news! Dave FM has exposed me to some incredible music that I haven’t heard anywhere else in town – most recently The Lumineers, Of Monsters and Men, and Allen Stone. Where else on Atl radio am I going to get an opportunity to hear about these talented newcomers? Plus I love Mara, Yvonne, and so many other Dave personalities. Sad day, really disappointed in this decision…

Peanut gallery

July 31st, 2012
2:18 pm

Everyone already has a MP3 player. Who needs another FM station replaying the same music?

Where 92.9 has an advantage over 680 and 790 is their FM range. I can barely get either station on the AM past Marietta and their FM equivalents are hardly any better. I get 92.9 just fine.

CJ

July 31st, 2012
2:21 pm

Sports may work, absolutely hated DAVE picking up Jimmy Barron, what a radio hack he is. Would quickly change stations if heard his nilly voice squeak out inane sounds. ATL could use good sports commentary, usually tune into 680TheFan but have grown tired of the petty bickering between the two afternoon hosts Chuck and Chernoff – usually talk about everything but sports for minutes on end. Chernoff used to be a bit amusing, but now has Jimmy Barron-like annoyances. The King Chuck is probably the top knowledgeable sports broadcaster, but suffers a bit when he has to carry the entire show on his own. Chuck is a better Color-Commentator even though he has a extra large “I know more than you” personality.

dt

July 31st, 2012
2:23 pm

REALLY? Wow – so people would rather listen to a bunch of amatures sit around and talk about sports than listen to tunes (maybe old tunes in some cases but tunes at least) – this explains a few things to me – I’M SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!! And I LOVE SPORTS – but – REALLY – what about the music folks????

Kate2

July 31st, 2012
2:23 pm

This blows…I’ve been a fan for a long time and will really miss Yvonne and Mara. I hope another local station hire’s them pronto!

Paul

July 31st, 2012
2:31 pm

I’ve met Mitch Evans a couple times over the years…good dude. Hope this works out for him.

The Bobster

July 31st, 2012
2:33 pm

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The Bobster

July 31st, 2012
2:34 pm

OH NO! Remember Eddie’s Attic on Sunday Night?