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Confirmed: rock station 92.9/Dave FM going sports talk in the early fall

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The rumors began circulating heavily about a month ago: 92.9/Dave FM was going sports talk.

This morning, the rumors became truth. General manager Rick Caffey gathered the entire staff to inform them that in late September or early October, the rock station will become an FM sports talk station.

Management did not let anybody go this morning. At least for the next few weeks, the on-air staff and music mix shall remain the same.

Caffey, in an exclusive interview this morning, said he’d like to have a local presence in all key time slots but that may not be the case in the very beginning.

“Our accent will be local personalities,” he said, noting that personalities are what has helped carry sister hip-hop station V-103 all these years. “The fundamentals will be finding interesting, compelling personalities that not only do great radio but are out and about in the community. We’re looking at a combination of ex jocks, ex coaches and broadcasters.” He’d like them to have local ties but that’ s not a necessity.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

Mitch Evans has worked at several local radio stations and is now at Dave. He's likely to stick around for the new sports stations.

There has been no official on-air hires yet, though Dave FM recently gave sports newscaster Mitch Evans a full-time job, an early clue to the impending changes. “I imagine we’ll find a spot for him,” Caffey said.

The 2 Live Stews, who have been with 790/The Zone the past decade, have seen their profiles dim the past 18 months on the station. They are now part of a “team” show called the Red Zone mid-days. Their contract is up at the end of the year with the Zone and could potentially jump to 92.9. Other personalities on rival stations such as Mike Bell at the Zone and Christopher Rude and John Kincade on 680/The Fan are tied up in contracts for quite a bit longer, according to their agent Norm Schrutt.

The new sports station has hired a new program director: Terry Foxx, most recently program director at The Fan in Pittsburgh. “Working with him will be inspiring and I’m confident you’ll also be motivated by his work ethic and energetic personality,” Caffey said in a memo to staff this morning.

An official name hasn’t been dubbed yet for the sports station, In other markets, CBS has names such as the Hub and the Ticket.

A change of format is not a surprise. Eight-year-old Dave FM’s ratings have cratered the past year and recent signs of improvement were too modest to make a difference.

One of Caffey’s biggest disappointments with Dave was the inability to find a successful morning team, which is a key anchor for most successful music stations. The station went through at least six shows over eight years: Steve Barnes and Holly Firfer, Firfer with Tim Orff, Zakk Tyler, Orff alone, Jimmy Baron and Yvonne Monet and in recent months, Steve Craig.

Caffey noted the difficulty in this day and age to find good talent in smaller markets. “The farm system isn’t what it used to be,” he said. Many smaller stations now run syndicated product or go jockless in evenings, nights and weekends. Those were the time slots where management used to nurture raw talent but not anymore.

He had a hard time pinpointing why Dave lost so much mojo since early last year, when it was a top 10 station. It shed  more than half its audience by this past spring, with the lowest ratings of any major FM signal in town. “It’s a very crowded landscape,” Caffey noted, in the rock arena in Atlanta, which currently has five stations playing the format. Besides Dave, there’s 97.1/The River, Rock 100.5, Project 9-6-1 and 99X.

Many music fans have reduced or stopped listening to old-school FM radio. They are now using Slacker, Pandora, Spotify and a host of other on-line only sites to access music they want without the jock talk and with far fewer ads. But personality talk radio can’t be replicated like a jukebox.

Although Dave has never been able to be a consistent top performer in ratings, it was able to count on what Caffey calls “qualitatives.” This is the same argument NBC uses to keep shows like “30 Rock” and “Parks and Recreation” around. The listeners are high income and very involved in the music they listen to.

Dave has been shifting its music mix around the past two years, trying to find the right blend, but it has stuck to a core of artists from day one such as Dave Matthews, U2, the Police and Tom Petty.  As an “adult alternative” blend, the station broke artists in Atlanta such as Adele, Florence + the Machine, Mumford & Sons and the Avett Brothers.

mara-davis-300x240Rock has been on 92.9 for more than 20 years. Before Dave, it was Z93, a classic rock format until 2004. The only holdover personality from those days, Mara Davis (left), has anchored mid-days since the early days of Dave.

Of the on-air staff, she will probably have the easiest time finding a new job. Schrutt, her agent, has already begun fielding calls from rival stations. The two most obvious homes for Mara: Rock 100. 5or 97.1/The River.

In recent years, CBS, the owner of Dave FM, has brought sports talk to FM in several markets, including Boston, Detroit, Dallas and soon to come, Tampa.

This will create a major battle royale in Atlanta, which already has two well-established sports talk stations: 680/The Fan (simulcast on 93.7) and 790/The Zone. Many major markets have two successful sports talk stations. Very few have three. Dallas has three sports stations, for instance, though I’m not sure if all three are thriving.

“CBS is really good at sports talk,” said Schrutt, who represents several personalities in town, including Cindy Simmons of Star 94, Melissa Carter at All News 106.7 and several of the aforementioned sports talk personalities. “It’s hard to believe a third sports station will be successful, but they clearly see something here that I don’t see.”

With AM stations losing audience, many are seeking FM homes. 680/The Fan added a 93.7 FM simulcast in late 2010. 790/The Zone is at a distinct disadvantage with a weaker night signal and no home on the FM dial.

“The percentage of people who don’t even listen to AM on a regular basis is going up,” said Tom Taylor, who has followed radio news for years and runs the www.radio-info.com site. “In some markets, it’s more than 50 percent. You can reach younger people easier on the FM dial.”

92.9 is a far stronger signal than the Fan’s 93.7 and will cover the entire market more completely than either AM signal, especially at night.

Sources tell me there were talks for 92.9 to possibly lease 790/The Zone’s programming but that never came to be. CBS, which is putting together a national network as well, will be doing this on their own. Interestingly, CBS is working with Atlanta-based Cumulus to help distribute that national network.

The new sports station will not have exclusive broadcasting rights to any major team though Caffey said it will consider bidding for rights in the future when they become available.

Dave FM actually had the Atlanta Falcons broadcasts for seven years until last year but Caffey said there was never any serious consideration to change format to sports talk at the time. The Atlanta Braves right now are tied up with Rock 100.5 and the Fan. The Hawks are aired on the Fan as well. The Zone has the Falcons and Georgia Tech. 95.5FM and AM750 News/Talk WSB has been the home to the University of Georgia Bulldogs football for many years.

Sports talk is appealing, Taylor said, because “it’s very salable. It has an emotional component. People want to be associated with the format talking about local teams, local loyalties. And the talk is far less controversial than politics.”

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Fred Toucher (left) and Rich Shertenlieb, former 99Xers, have done well in Boston at a sports talk station.

Nationally, some sports stations do well, some don’t, like any other format. CBS’s sports stations in Detroit and Boston (which features former Atlanta/99X jocks Rich Shertenlieb and Fred Toucher) are pulling in big audiences. Its Dallas sports station is struggling.

The overall ratings for the Fan and the Zone over the years have never looked all that impressive. But both cater to a very specific, sought-after male audience that advertisers are willing to pay a premium for.

In fact, the heads of both stations put on brave faces in the face of the new rival, using the same analogy: a rising tide lifts all boats.

“This is a healthy format for a number of reasons,” said Andrew Saltzman, president of the Zone. “We deliver live and local exclusive content you can’t find on Pandora or satellite. On Monday morning, you can celebrate or commiserate about the Atlanta Falcons and have only live and local sports radio to go. The Zone is the leader of the pack. We take competition very seriously. We’ll do everything to protect and build our brand. We have a 15-year heritage history. We’re one of the top 10 billing sports talk stations in the country. We feel very comfortable with what we’re putting out there on the air.”

David Dickey, who runs the Fan, said it takes time to build a sports talk brand.

“To do it right, you must invest in people. You must invest in marketing. You must invest in promotions and partnerships. Just invest in time,” he said. “After the confetti falls, you have to do the work.”

The Fan was the first sports talk station in Atlanta in 1993 but was flipped to news in 1997, leaving an opening for the Zone to come to be. When the Fan came back in 2000, it took several years for them to catch up – then surpass — the Zone in ratings, though it’s fair to say both stations are very competitive now during the 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. time frame during weekdays.

Dave staff was told at this morning’s meeting not to talk to me specifically. If they were found out, they’d be dismissed early. They were also told not to mention the forthcoming format flip on Facebook, Twitter or other social media. They also were not to talk about the changes on air. Sales staff has been cleared to discuss the changes with clients.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

392 comments Add your comment

jbv

July 31st, 2012
11:22 am

Honestly , if you are still listening to FM radio for the music you are either living in another world or just so poor that all you can afford is “Free” radio. Once I read the story I had to read the comments.
Who care’s if they leave the rock format and go all sports talk? maybe 100 people in all of Atlanta. its just another talking point for Rodaney…. They changed formats because FM radio music sucks so bad nobody listens to it and they cant sell any more stupid back hair removal treatments commercials. at least ANYBODY with half a brain can discuss sports….just look around and see who’s doing it now for proof.
Get an ipone or any smartphone. Not only will your world of entertainment options open up, you can get FREE streaming music from Spotify WITH NO COMMERCIALS…..and its free…there are thousands of great podcast on itunes that you could listen to about everything from world business to environmental discussion to basic info for life…….or you could just listen to a couple of nit wits talking about nothing so you can escape the world your currently in. Good luck to everyone,

Michaela

July 31st, 2012
11:23 am

When Dave FM started they played unknown songs, B-sides, deep cuts. They were willing to take chances.

I moved away for 4.5 years and came back Jan ‘11. Now Dave FM was just like every other station – the same old songs, repeated over and over.

Contrary to popular believe, people like to be surprised. Businesses keep going by statistics as to which songs are popular and they play them to death. For many of us that kills the interest. If I like a song enough I can find a way to listen to it via the internet etc and don’t need the radio.

The internet has changed how people listen to music and radio stations need to adapt, if they want to survive. Don’t go with the same ol’, because that’s what worked in the past. Introduce us to new things, new songs, new musicians, new bands – playing it safe is boring

Loyal LIstener

July 31st, 2012
11:25 am

THAT SUCKS!!!!! Been listening for over 15 years!!

Pete E. Tong

July 31st, 2012
11:25 am

Who cares? You should be listening to The Regular Guys in the morning anyways.

Ken Dollar

July 31st, 2012
11:27 am

Gosh, the sports radio selection in ATL is CAT! Roo to the Ques!!

Joanna

July 31st, 2012
11:28 am

Z93 was Top 40 back in the 70s. I think that was their heyday. Music and terrestrial radio hasn’t been the same since the 80s. I’ll stick with my iPod.

frmtheblchers

July 31st, 2012
11:29 am

Stopped listening to FM radio years ago,with all the good and new music out there I had to listen to the same songs ALL THE TIME.Now with all the ipods and other listening means I make MY own music, hook to my receiver and hit shuffle.

bfd

July 31st, 2012
11:30 am

chuck and chernoff?? lol the worst most annoying tandem on the radio

D Mat

July 31st, 2012
11:31 am

When my son was in scouting(eons ago) he was DJ for a day..Mara showed him around the station and that led him to be a DJ on his college radio station..A very positive role model..Good luck Mara!

hellyeah

July 31st, 2012
11:31 am

Cant wait. I am an avid sportstalk radio listener but have a hard time always picking up the signal because i live in the east metro. Hopefully they can mix the best from 790 and 680 ie domino, chelinni, mike bell and chuck and chernoff and maybe even ole archer. Dont care for the stews shtick always but love what brandon leake and dj shockley bring. love it but my wife is gonna b pissed

Wade in Marietta

July 31st, 2012
11:32 am

I have a radio playing at work since I work in a reception area of a business, and Dave FM plays a mix of songs that is palatable (sp) to many people’s tastes. It has (had) a good blend of radio personalities and was interactive with the audience, which I like. I love sports and can follow sports ever day, but there are few sports persoanlities that are as good at sports as the music experts at Dave FM. I think this will be a big mistake like the failed Jimmy Baron reserection project. Dave FM, Please do not bring on the “Coach and Coleman” show, or any of the morning sports radio personalities in Atlanta.

BronxMike

July 31st, 2012
11:32 am

atlanta sports radio—very lame. Too much chatter about non-sports stuff to promote restaurants, etc. for comps, very little true sports talk. Come to NY for real sports radio. I miss the Bronx.

Frank

July 31st, 2012
11:32 am

I don’t get why anyone would want to start another sports radio station in Atlanta. If it were all college football talk, then it will do fine but most people here don’t seem to care about the other sports, so what are they going to talk about from January to August?

Mateo

July 31st, 2012
11:33 am

With 107.9 gone to talk and now Dave there are officially no good music stations (other than college and WABE) left in Atlanta. I listened to Z93 when I was a kid and when it went from pop to oldies I learned a lot about GOOD music and Fox 97 was great in that regard as well.

It’s too bad that we are only left with the River and it’s ad nauseum playing of the same 10 songs over and over and over again. Can I please hear Dream On 3 times a day for the rest of my life?

morning radio fan

July 31st, 2012
11:34 am

yea, the music on dave can be decent at times but their dj’s are pretty terrible, no substance and about 30 seconds of mindless rambling between songs doesn’t really fly, more sports radio doesn’t sound like a great call either though, at least it won’t have more of the bert show (hands down the most worthless “show” on the radio)

Kate

July 31st, 2012
11:36 am

Bummer! Accoustic Sunrise was my favorite program for the entire week.

Kate

July 31st, 2012
11:37 am

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Allison Wonderland

July 31st, 2012
11:37 am

Sirius is so worth the $12 a month!! Atlanta radio is dead!! Case closed.

Tag

July 31st, 2012
11:37 am

If you play the same music over and over you’re history.

Rick

July 31st, 2012
11:39 am

The one friggin station station thats plays hip music changes to sports talk. The South continues to live up to its rep.

Richard Bagge

July 31st, 2012
11:41 am

I had what I thought was an insightful and witty rejoinder about this station playing the Police so darn much that we were calling it “StingFM” within a week of its launch, but I see that joke has already been made by everybody else in the city already.

Jim P

July 31st, 2012
11:41 am

Well…considering the other sports stations (well 680 is awful courtesy of Carl Oliver) aren’t much good….at least one more station to try out will maybe be worth it. However, Dave FM is a good one and I hate to see them go.

JJ

July 31st, 2012
11:43 am

Yup, that’s what we need, more talk radio. Less music.

Atlanta radio is horrible at best. I gave it up years ago, and switched to my iPhone, where I have my big huge fabulous collection of CD’s on there. I can listen to what I want, when I want, and best of all NO FREAKING COMMERCIALS OR ANNOYING DJ’s…….

10Dawgs

July 31st, 2012
11:43 am

@fan Make that a bunch of Kiddie-Pop and NO REAL COUNTRY!

Kane337

July 31st, 2012
11:44 am

What ever happens please keep Mike Bell and Dave Archer together. They make a great tandem. I absolutely love their show. Best in town.

ozemc

July 31st, 2012
11:45 am

the music Dave FM played was for a very limited audience. I had removed them from my radio button a long time ago.

Rich Black

July 31st, 2012
11:46 am

No one cares about this.

Sage of Bluesland

July 31st, 2012
11:46 am

It will be interesting to see; I will give the new station a listen.

I think 790 has gotten much better over the past year while I’ve stopped listening to 680 entirely. Chuck Oliver is the best on that station and it’s not even close….but I don’t listen to him for two reasons: the annoying Chernoff and it conflicts with a better show in Bell/Archer.

Used to listen to 680 at lunch due to Oliver–but they made that easier for me when they put Belue/Kincade in that slot. Buck is nothing but an embarrassment and Kincade’s very credibility is shot based on all of his misstatements related to the Thrashers….

790’s morning show rules, without a doubt. I left it when all they seemed to talk about was where they ate last night and the baby-Sophie….Steak doesn’t grate on my nerves like he used to (there’s an endorsement of sorts!). Dimino can’t spit a question out without giving his predetermined version of an answer–and that drives me nuts–but he usually brings it. Cellini is entertaining.

If any station sinks, I hope it’s 680. It has become an unlistenable embarrassment. It’s a shame, too, as at one time my radio was switched to them exclusively. Oh well, such is to neglecting your customers…

CBS

July 31st, 2012
11:46 am

Bring Toucher and Rich to Atlanta

Brent

July 31st, 2012
11:47 am

One less reason to listen to FM in Atlanta………………..

Tim

July 31st, 2012
11:47 am

hey rodney…790 also has georgia tech sports…but that’s par for the course..the ajc forgetting that georgia tech exists.

Frank

July 31st, 2012
11:47 am

@jbv Terrestrial Radio only sucks in some places, one of them being Atlanta. Radio in NY, Detroit, and San Francisco is fantastic. Yes, you can listen to Spotify and internet radio but places like Atlanta and Dallas you kind of have to because the radio is so bad. Other places have great stations that broaden people’s horizons.

epic quibble

July 31st, 2012
11:48 am

Wille B. was my first gorilla.

Sports Maven

July 31st, 2012
11:49 am

Great news for Mitch Evans. Hopefully Caffey and Foxx give him a real shot, something that neither 680 or 790 did. The Mitch is a great guy, knows his stuff, and posseses the personality they’re seeking.

Noooooooo!

July 31st, 2012
11:49 am

Well, that just sux.

Sam-A

July 31st, 2012
11:50 am

For God’s sake, aren’t there enough crappy talk radio stations in this market? I agree with someone on pg 1 though, I haven’t listened to it since Z93 passed away (was a great station). I desperately miss the oldies station that died recently. And 97 “The River” has changed their concept drastically – pretty much crappola – at first they played good music. TG for CD players! And the occasions when Star 94 and B98.5 slip up and play something actually good.

Mac

July 31st, 2012
11:52 am

BYE BYE 680! Thank goodness Lincoln Financial bought 790 and can now outlast 680.

tim

July 31st, 2012
11:53 am

Note to 92.9

Don’t make the format like your sister station…..aka… the stupidpeoplesstation.

Don’t broadcast the idiots Stews.. How many times in a sentence can a guy say “man”?

jc

July 31st, 2012
11:54 am

get steve gorman sports on the station

Kevin

July 31st, 2012
11:55 am

Steve was the only reason I listened to that station at all anymore. Oh well, yet another bunch of know-it-all sports jocks take over more of the airwaves.

Sports Fan

July 31st, 2012
11:56 am

790 the Zone is toast. Weak signal! Bring on another FM station.

No STU's

July 31st, 2012
11:58 am

If you want me to listen to this new station the “two live stews” must not be a part of it. There is a reason why their rating dropped to practically nothing and they are being phased out at 790.

They started talking less about sports and more about hip-hip culture and relating it to sports.

Do NOT put that garbage on this station if you want it to survive.

Margaret M

July 31st, 2012
11:59 am

Very sad news……..I really liked 92.9. I will never listen to sports radio so I just hope the talented DJ’s will still be here in Atlanta…….they made Dave FM unique. I do understand that the market must be very difficult……just like what happened to network news with the advent of the internet. There are too many choices for people. I would have loved Dave FM to keep with playing more obscure tracks and not be so repetitive but fans like myself are also a niche market now.

TwoLive

July 31st, 2012
12:04 pm

bring back the stews to the new FM station–prime time in the morning!! their show is the thing with the dogs and poodles thing and the barking stuff. They promote the black stuff which is big in the ATL, an african-american city!

PMC

July 31st, 2012
12:05 pm

LOL@ the inability to find talent in smaller markets.

Imagine that, the Telecom act of 1996 comes home to roost. The concentration of media ownership allows large corporations to basically pay nothing for so long, no one is willing to do it for penuts anymore. It’s thier own fault, they put on hot garbage national shows overnights instead of hiring people to put on local shows.

Stephanie

July 31st, 2012
12:05 pm

I’m with Pete!

JCH

July 31st, 2012
12:06 pm

Note to B98.5 and 97.1…. start playing BETTER music! With two more stations (DaveFM and 106.7) dropping out you have the opportunity to capture a significant portion of the Atlanta market. Don’t blow it! Step it up. Play it and they will come…. Win over the crowd desperately searching for listening alternatives in Atlanta.

Sirius her I come...

July 31st, 2012
12:06 pm

Too bad. Mara and Margot were actually knowledgeable about the music that they played. But DaveFM narrowed their playlist too much. I can only listen to so much Tom Petty every day. Atlanta needs three sports radio stations like I need a hole in the head.

PMC

July 31st, 2012
12:06 pm

Good luck to Doug and Ryan.

Bring back the Stews!

July 31st, 2012
12:06 pm

Love to see there original format back on the radio! And with that being said, I’m gone !