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Can ‘Idol’ find a new direction in 2013?

“American Idol” is an aging brand buffeted by rapacious rivals and an audience that is tiring of the formatics.

Is all the change merely moving the deck chairs? The show still draws a relatively large audience and heck, I’m still writing about it (albeit minus the actual “Idol” blog). And I’m merely leaving this spot for the regulars to ponder whatever they want to ponder while I’m knee-deep in the second week of my break. I know, I am incredibly lazy, aren’t I? I promise to make it up to you next week when I get back.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

103 comments Add your comment

richard whiskey

July 18th, 2012
8:49 am

idol has ran it’s course,time for this show and ryan semencrust to fade away

Woodpappy

July 18th, 2012
9:34 am

Idol is doing just fine…we all need a little tweaking now and then.

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
9:37 am

careful whiskey, we are grammar conscious here…

Mo Schreibman

July 18th, 2012
9:48 am

There is nothing wrong with the Idol television program ratings that three maybe more of those super model girls sitting in the celebrity panelists chairs can not fix judging by the Victoria’s Secret catalog that came yesterday to my wife in the mail. What they were thinking I do not know but I suppose they had their reasons.

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
9:50 am

Morning!

I think that mostly Idol is making changes to get publicity during the off-season. Season 12 tells me that, whatever they do, Idol has been a huge success and any “tweaking” is just playful at this point.

G

July 18th, 2012
10:07 am

Idol has a big enough fan base that it really doesn’t matter if they make changes or not. All of this off-season chatter is simply trivial. It gives folks something to talk about until XF.

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
10:08 am

And Rodney…taking a vacation doesn’t make you “lazy”!

Mo Schreibman

July 18th, 2012
10:17 am

Since 1957 my wifes brother has been on vacation.

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
10:27 am

LOL!

XF had a huge publicity moment when Britney Spears came on board. I think Idol will have trouble toppng that. Not that I think Britney will be a good judge…I don’t really know yet but Britney is a paparazzi dream, trouble with a capital T and fodder for the train-wreck seekers.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
10:33 am

X-Factor hasn’t had too much buzz lately even the “troubled little girls for judges” gimmick didn’t seem to create more than a passing interest. The show will be on before Idol hits in January, yet Idol seems to have trumped it in the buzz department.

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
10:35 am

My guess is, that was the plan.

Alex

July 18th, 2012
10:38 am

Stay away from divas and “celebrity” judges and focus on the contestants. Two seasons ago Jimmy Iovine was not a “celebrity” and he has been invaluable (IMO) to the show.

Rodney Ho

July 18th, 2012
10:38 am

I am meeting with Randy Jackson at the AJC offices at 10:30 a.m. Monday to talk about diabetes and “Idol” so if you have any questions for me to ask him, please email me at rho@ajc.com or post them here.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
10:39 am

I was going to say that I’m waiting for the Mercedes review of the new Batman movie, but considering that negative reviews are receiving harsh treatment maybe I should just wait until after its release and the furor dies down. I’m thinking of going to the upscale theater and making it a date night. I know, I’m a romantic guy. However, since the first date with my wife included watching Species 2, Batman should be acceptable.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
10:41 am

Nice Rodney! Meeting with Randy, hmm I can think of questions but none of them worthy of you asking.

How about this one: “Yo dawg, you can like judge the phone book! You’d blow that out of the box right there. Are you feeling me?”

No?

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
11:05 am

Cat

July 18th, 2012
11:10 am

I am watching the view (I don’t know why) but they are talking that Charlie Sheen is being talked about for judging . Yikes

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
11:19 am

Nigel made a joke about Charlie Sheen and now people are taking it as serious.

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
11:21 am

An Idol “insider” is saying that Nigel is staying and that Idol is looking for a younger demographic.

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
11:23 am

JT – I can let you know later tonight if it’s thumbs up or down.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
11:29 am

Thank you Mercedes.

Deirdre, good regarding Nigel. Charlie Sheen = more buzz that we were talking about. They would never do it, because if they did even I would be saying that the show “jumped the shark”.

Cat

July 18th, 2012
11:30 am

Thanks Deirdre. Glad to know that. That would have been a train wreck!

Vast Wastrel

July 18th, 2012
11:36 am

Would he like to see Jimmy Iovine join him on the panel or is his current role more necessary for the results show mix?

What type of personalities should be on the judges panel with him? A diva, a bona fide musician, an industry insider, another dancer, another comedienne?

Did the “rapacious” competition pressure them into the praise fest critiques and dozens of judge standing ovations to inflate the worthiness of their own competitors?

Is it correct for a “judge” to act as cheerleader? Even to the point of turning around and getting an over hyped tv audience off of their seat?

Does he think the voting rules should be changed to disallow people to vote thousands of times?

Will he have to take a cut in pay due to the ratings decline?

Should the cost cutting measures include curtailing all of the detraction from the actual performances? In other words the choirs, dancing instrumentalists, garish sets and choreography.

And finally a personal request since he is in an advantageous seat. Could he mow down the swaybots with a fully automatic paintball gun at his earliest opportunity? I guarantee it would boost the ratings.

Wink

July 18th, 2012
11:36 am

Well there have been some “artists” created by American Idol the majority of them have brought nothing to the music industry. Maybe it’s time to end the show.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
11:48 am

Wink: “the majority of them have brought nothing to the music industry. Maybe it’s time to end the show.”

The majority of “artists” that have gotten into the music industry in the past 10 years have brought nothing to it. There are a select few artists and groups that are still going strong 10 years later on, the rest, like the Idols, are fodder. Do we just shut down the entire music industry because of that?

DanJ

July 18th, 2012
12:06 pm

Rodney my question/questions for Randy Jackson would be: What are is thoughts on X-Factor and The Voice? Does he consider the show competition? Would he ever consider working with Simon again?

DanJ

July 18th, 2012
12:11 pm

Someone mentioned that maybe Will I Am was being considered as a judge. Isn’t he a judge for The Voice in the UK? Would that be considered a conflict of interest?

Deirdre

July 18th, 2012
12:13 pm

Re Jimmy Iovine…rumors are that he will handle all the music on Idol next season, maybe with Mary J Blige’s help. He is not interested in being on the judges’ panel

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
12:38 pm

For Randy: Did J-Lo jump ship, or was she pushed?

Pitchy

July 18th, 2012
2:00 pm

Good afternoon. I hope Idol finds a new direction. It’s a great vessel for undiscovered talent. With that being said, so many new outlets are airing for undiscovered talent, e.g. Opening Act.

As much as I love Idol, it may not be missed. So many shakeups, the formula is a bit murky.

G

July 18th, 2012
2:19 pm

For Randy:

How does he view the trend of WGWG winners of the past 5-6 seasons? What does he attribute that to?

What was one of the most memorable seasons for him?

Life after Idol? Does he see himself judging again after Idol?

I’m a fan of ABDC. Great show! Would he consider creating another “singing” completion show after he leaves Idol?

Would he like to see Idol incorporate some of the ABDC show format (i.e. voting)?

What’s next for ABDC now that Mario Lopez is moving on?

♥ kelly&carriefan ♥

July 18th, 2012
3:28 pm

Hi y’all!

As far as suggestions for Idol judges, I’m still on team Harry Connick, Jr. I’d also think if they’re going for a younger demo, they should look at people like Pharell Williams, Dr. Luke or Max Martin. I’m guessing TImbaland or Dr. Dre aren’t interested? Another industry name I’d throw out there, Desmond Child.

Miley was a good mentor, but adding her as judge would be seen too much like XF with Demi Lovato.

Sam-A

July 18th, 2012
4:25 pm

Hey, K&CF: Glad to see you – it’s been a darn boring day! They need to go ahead and announce who we’re gonna be stuck with next season! Then we can B–itch all we want.

Hope it’s a bit perkier around here tomorrow. Yawn.

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
5:31 pm

I’ve never heard of Pharell Williams, Dr. Luke or Max Martin. If too many “young” judges get on AI’s panel, most of the show’s ancient viewers – yes, that includes me – would lose interest.

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
5:31 pm

…and those folks may not even be “young”!

MyPatootie

July 18th, 2012
6:00 pm

RoHo, my question for Randy Jackson: Wouldn’t he think it is a good idea for him to go ahead and leave now with the other two, so the show could get off to a much-needed “fresh start”? Ask him wouldn’t he agree the show needs a complete turnover. I don’t know about to others, but he has become quite “tiring” to me. I don’t think he has anything left to say that we haven’t already heard.

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
6:06 pm

For me he became “quite tiring” and in need of a “fresh start” sometime around 2006.

Seth T

July 18th, 2012
7:01 pm

Perhaps Idol will hold onto big news until The Voice (Sept. 10) and X-Factor (Sept. 12th) have been rolling a while — then step-up with some news for fresh headlines. In the meantime, as others have said, the speculation and rumor mills will keep Idol on the public’s mind.

Simon has prevoiusly made some challenging comments toward The Voice, so now the lines are drawn and we’ll see who can put the best show together. Have any of the top 3 from those shows been been boppin’ around the Billboard Top 40??

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
7:20 pm

Early September is the time that Idol needs to have the judges in order to do the audition rounds, perfect timing.

Simon needs to be careful about challenging other shows.

Harriett

July 18th, 2012
9:26 pm

G, I love your questions. Rodney, add my name to these.

Still enjoying my beach week. For excitement, one of those banner planes went down in the ocean while we were sitting out today. Pilot ok, but they can’t get the plane up until low tide in the morning. Beats sitting at my desk!

Hope all of you are doing well.

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
10:13 pm

Mercedes S.

July 18th, 2012
10:14 pm

Try that again – JT, if you have ears of steel and the mind of a 12-year old boy, by all means…

JTesla

July 18th, 2012
10:29 pm

So, I’ll like it but maybe not the best use of our gift card and date night to the deluxe cinema place with the fancy couches etc. Maybe while the females go see that Ice Age thing I’ll go at the same time and watch a movie that caters to my sensibilities.

Thanks Mercedes.

bknsty14

July 19th, 2012
2:23 am

Having a heck of a storm up here in Illinois. Thunder, lightning and a ton of rain. It’s been so long since we’ve had it I just laid on the floor with the cat and watched it for about 15 minutes. Love a good storm. And we (like the rest of the country) needed it. I hear it’s been really bad down by you all.

Highlander

July 19th, 2012
8:05 am

Morning, everyone!

Yeah, bknsty14, we’ve been getting some of the weather (pretty much daily for the past week) that the Midwest is hoping for!

Highlander

July 19th, 2012
8:11 am

I’d like to add Pink to the list of possible Idol judges. I think we could count on her to be candid about a contestants performance.

And maybe Bret Michaels (who’s had some TV experience lately) or Steve Perry (he’s certainly not doing anything right now).

Someone else mentioned Gene Simmons. While I like Gene and his business sense, he’d probably try to put more focus on himself (much the same way JLo did). Plus, he’s a little past prime now, too.

Sam-A

July 19th, 2012
9:17 am

High: I love Pink – and from what I’ve seen of her on several visits to “Ellen”, she’s got a nice, witty personality. I mentioned Bret M a couple months back. I’d only known anything about him from that sleazy show (never saw it, but saw the commercials on tv for it) he was on with all the trampy gals. But my sister watched that “Apprentice” season he was on and talked me into watching it – he was actually very smart, kind and charming. I was floored, and my “judgement” took quite a beating. I ended up liking him ( but if he ever did that slime ball show again, I’d likely change back to original opinion).

G

July 19th, 2012
9:19 am

When you have judges that are / have been stars (to varying degrees), they are going to naturally draw attention to themselves. All of this talk about about the judges getting more attention than contestants is moot. There are supposed to get more attention because they are known. I mean really……..How is it NOT going to be about Mariah?

If you’re against the idea of “it’s too much about the judges”, then it would probably be better that judges come from industry that are lesser known. Many producers and A&R people fall in that category.

Regardless of who’s chosen, there’s going to be criticism. Can’t satisfy everyone.

♥ kelly&carriefan ♥

July 19th, 2012
9:29 am

Mercedes, you may not have heard of Pharell Williams, Dr. Luke or Max Martin but if you’ve heard top 40 music in the past decade or so, you’ve heard their work. They’re actually not that young themselves.

Pharell is 39 and has worked mostly in R&B, hip hop (hi, G!). He’s also worked with Justin Timberlake.

Dr. Luke is 38 and he’s worked with Kelly (together with Max Martin they did Since U Been Gone). He’s also worked with Adam Lambert, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Britney, Avril Lavigne, Pink, Daughtry (Feels Like Tonight), Leona Lewis and a bunch of others. Among his biggest hits are the number one Billboard Hot 100 songs “Girlfriend”, “I Kissed a Girl”, “My Life Would Suck Without You”, “Right Round”, “Tik Tok”, “California Gurls”, “We R Who We R”, “Teenage Dream”, “E.T.”, “Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)”, “Part of Me”, and “Hold It Against Me”.

Max Martin is 41. He was mostly a “poppy” producer back in the days of NSync, Britney, Backstreet Boys. Since 2008, he has written and co-written more than 10 number-one hits, including “So What” by Pink, “Hot n Cold”, “I Kissed a Girl” by Katy Perry, and “My Life Would Suck Without You” by Kelly Clarkson. Since 2010, he has co-written ten top-10 singles, including “Dynamite” by Taio Cruz, “DJ Got Us Fallin’ in Love” by Usher, “Whataya Want From Me” by Adam Lambert, “F**kin’ Perfect” by Pink, and “Hold It Against Me” by Britney Spears. He tends to work a lot with Dr. Luke.

I know my suggestions are not the “megastar” performers, but I don’t know. I get the appeal of having people like Mariah, Katy Perry, etc. I just think that we get to a point where a lot of times they don’t know how to be brutally honest. Maybe it’s because they can relate to the rejection or they don’t want to hurt their image. Either way, adding one of these producers would be an interesting change.

♥ kelly&carriefan ♥

July 19th, 2012
9:32 am

PS. Hi y’all.

G, I agree with you. That’s part of the reason why I’ve suggested the folks I have.

As far as Pink goes, I love her…but she’s just released a single to radio and is doing promo. I believe an album is due out in the next couple of months. I’m not sure she’d sign up for Idol now.