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Phillip Phillips’ surgery postponed; ‘Idol’ runner-up contract less generous than in the past

JessicaSanchez_600-400-04-13-121Reflecting the waning fortunes of both the record industry and “American Idol,” the contract for the runner up on the show isn’t quite as generous as it’s been in the past.

In fact, runner-up Jessica Sanchez isn’t even guaranteed a record deal, according to Associated Press.

The agreement appears to be the first time in Idol’s history that producers are not offering the show’s runner-up an album deal that in previous years came with a guaranteed advance of at least $175,000, an Associated Press review of the Fox show’s contracts reveal.

“It makes sense. You can’t continue to offer the same sorts of rewards and incentives when the program was averaging 25 to 30 million (viewers), and (now) the finale is barely breaking 20 million,” said Northwestern University assistant professor Max Dawson, who teaches a course on reality television. Wednesday’s finale was the lowest-rated final show for Idol in its history.

“These contracts don’t pay off,” he said, contrasting the long list of Idol alumni who have been dropped by record labels with those who have thriving careers. “It seems like the successes that people like Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood have had are the flukes.”

Sanchez will probably get a contract, though, given how much Jimmy Iovine and the judges liked her. But even then, she could get as little as $30,000 in advances. Lauren Alaina received a guaranteed $175,000 advance for her album.

Winner Phillip Phillips of Leesburg will get the same $300,000 guarantee for an album.

And Phillips will be paid $200,000 for his Disney attraction work and Sanchez will rake in $50,000 for her appearances, according to AP. Both are also set to get a cut of merchandise profits.

Phillips, in the meantime, was supposed to have kidney surgery today for a chronic condition that creates painful kidney stones and nearly knocked him out of the competition, according to TMZ. But the surgery was postponed because he was running a high fever triggered by a bad sinus infection, so surgery has been pushed back to next week, TMZ said.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

204 comments Add your comment

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
8:23 am

Not surprised by this. I’m pretty sure that Jessica will get some kind of contract. She has enough fans to at least give her a shot.

It seems to me that more and more non-winning Idols are getting contracts at the end of the season and I was wondering how much longer that would last. The temptation for the recording companies to sign someone who shows promise is understandable but the track record is pretty poor.

I think competition shows are always in danger of losing viewers during a season, especially a season with so many popular choices. As favorites are eliminated, viewers drop out until the next season when they can pick new favorites.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
8:37 am

To be honest… the only one I would sign would be Skylar. I think she’s the only one that has the potential for long-term success of any consequence. She’ll at least be on the same level as Kellie Pickler.

In 2-3 years (providing the Mayans were wrong)

Skylar will be Country-rockin’ medium size venues like Gwinnett Arena

Phillip – if he’s lucky – will be be playing Tabernacle-size venues. More likely he’ll be doing places like Eddie’s Attic

Jessica will be the answer to the trivia question “who was the highest finishing Idol contestant who was saved by the judges?”

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
8:42 am

just checking, losgt post because “requireds” were not filled in. Actually they were!

Woodpappy

May 29th, 2012
8:42 am

I’ll bet ole Joshua (Standing ovations) Ledet will have a hard time getting a record deal as well. We’ll see.

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
8:50 am

You can’t compare Idol’s early viewer numbers with the numbers they have today – we don’t watch our shows the way we used to ten years ago, and there are so many more choices available.

In the early 1970s, Atlanta offered three networks, 2 PBS stations, and WTCG, Super 17. Eventually Channel 36 came along – a tiny studio in an office building on Peachtree. If there was a show you wanted to see, you stayed at home that night.

Today, we are way beyond Springsteen’s 57 channels, and we watch our shows when we want to, in the format we prefer. I frankly don’t understand how Nielsen can still be in business!

Best wishes for speedy recovery for our new Idol winner!

And good morning to all!

Hope Mrs and Mrs. Ho didn’t suffer from the big waves on their cruise. Sunday, our beach (Tybee) was closed, after life guards had to drag 60 people from riptides Saturday.

Rodney Ho

May 29th, 2012
8:54 am

Waters were a bit rocky at CoCoCay, the Royal Carribean-owned island we hung out at on Sunday, but we managed to survive!

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
8:54 am

Chcked back on Rodney’s prediction post; case in my point above: still have recorded “Duets” to watch. After negative comments feels like a chore now, but I do want to see Miss K.

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
8:55 am

Glad to hear about your survival at sea, Rodney!

Harriett

May 29th, 2012
9:05 am

Mercedes, excellent anaylsis of the state of television viewing today vs ten years ago. Just in my own family, my sister never watches “live” television any longer, preferring to DVR everything. I myself prefer to watch the action unfold and not wait; particularly if I have been anticipating watching it. Color me old fashioned, however, and probably in the growing minority.

I think of it like I do our phones today. Years ago, if someone called and the line was busy, it was just busy. The caller called back later. If you got a call while you were out, you were just out. The caller called back later. We have grown used to our conveniences and our expediencies and they have altered the way we do everything.

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
9:22 am

I have dvr’d all the episodes of The Killing this season and watched 5 of them on Sunday. FFing is only part of the appeal. The Killing is slow moving but engrossing and watching a bunch of episodes together is more satisfying for me than waiting a week.

On the other hand, I watch AI live if at all possible. My situation is different however. My husband is gone fro 15 to 20 days every month and taping a lot of shows helps me to pass the time.

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
9:24 am

I get panicky if I accidentally leave my cell phone at home.

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
9:29 am

Re the Idols, I think predicting success for country singers on Idol is pretty easy. Nashville is very welcoming when it comes to AI castoffs. Josh Gracin, Kellie Pickler, even Bucky Covington have seen success in the country music field after Idol. Some Idol contestants even switch to the country genre after having little success in other genres.

Sam-A

May 29th, 2012
9:51 am

I greatly resent that foolish “professors” statement: “It seems like the successes that people like Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood have had are the flukes.” I believe that would be TALENT, not “flukes”. He’s just too ignorant either to see that or to understand the actual meaning of “fluke”.

Harriett: I agree, for shows like Idol, I want to “be a part of the audience”, so always watch live (though often I do wish I could fly thru performances like Joshua, DeAndre, Skylar).

Mercedes: My house always had VCR’s from the very beginning. But I do remember flying home on Friday nights to watch Miami Vice – even though it was being recorded I wanted to watch it “as it happened” on tv. Remember one night sitting in a restaurant and it was about 8:00 – heard the guy at the next table say “We’ve gotta eat fast – I need to be home in time for Miami Vice” – that’s when I realized what a “must see” show it really was.

Barbara: I read thru the weekend posts. Cannot agree with you more about not wanting my fave songs being butchered by others. I galls me when some half-baked “singer” attempts to sing a Beatles song, and especially when someone refers to it as someone else’s song, ie ‘She Came In Thru The Bathroom Window” by Joe Cocker, or “Lucy in the Sky…” by Elton John – Nuh-unh! And Otis (my man) Redding is the only person truly able to sing “Try A Little Tenderness” the way he meant it to be sung. Have you ever heard his live version on the album “Otis Redding Live in Europe” – totally mesmerizing!

Woodpappy

May 29th, 2012
9:53 am

I hope that all comes out well for Phillip Phillips in his surgery today. How long before the road shows begin?

JTesla

May 29th, 2012
10:04 am

Sam-A, the success is a fluke, not the individuals. They had to work at it, Idol didn’t do it for them, so in terms of the past 10 years big success that is wanted by record companies is ultra rare.

It doesn’t surprise me that they are cutting back. I’m just surprised that it took this long.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
10:28 am

Sam… I don’t disagree with the professor at all. When you think that AI has had (now) 11 champions, the two most successful have been Kelly & Carrie. There are no others that are even close to their level. (I see no chance whatsoever that Phillip will reach that level, either.)

The professor wasn’t talking about talent – or lack thereof. They were talking about the level of success.

Just my opinion.

Sam-A

May 29th, 2012
10:37 am

Agree “successes” is the subject, but the phrase “people like Kelly & Carrie” that rubs me wrong. They just happen to be by far the most talented of the 11.

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
10:55 am

Sam-A – “They just happen to be by far the most talented of the 11″ – guess you mean the 11 winners. I’d put Adam up there among the most talented.
And, Sam-A, my earliest VCR tapes were the “Miami Vice” ones – how I loved that show!! And the crinkly-faced Edward James Olmos!
Deirdre: ” I get panicky if I leave my cell phone at home” – a huge lol!
Almost as bad – discovering you forgot to charge your phone.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

Sam-A: “They just happen to be by far the most talented of the 11

Which could be why they are by far the most successful of the 11. :-)

G

May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Really bad timing on the runner-up record deal adjustment. Jessica is the best runner up that Idol has had in years, and she gets a “Certificate of Completion” for her efforts. smdh

D, interesting point you made about success of Idol alumni based on country music genre. R&B has to be the worst. Other than Fantasia and Jenifer, r&b contestants have pretty much failed in the real world. Honestly, this year’s r&b contestants (Joshua, Jermaine, Deandre, and maybe Jessica) probably won’t fare too well either. My POV:

Deandre – Shim sounds too much like Eric Benet and Maxwell, who are “WELL” established artists. Chile please, he doesn’t have a chance.
Jermaine – Nice tone to his voice, but it doesn’t fit in today’s r&b.
Joshua – Strong vocalist, but he’s probably even too gospel for r&b. That would’ve worked in the Motown era, which is long gone. He may be able to pull a Terance Trent D’arby.
Jessica – She’s really a pop/r&b product. Too bad Beyonce has this spot locked up. What you’re faced with is having her compete against the likes of Jordin Sparks, Monica, Rihanna, and other “commercial” acts. Female artists like Ledesi, Erika Baduh, & Chrisette Michelle are safe from “Idol” threats.

My point is that American Idol is probably not the best vehicle for aspiring r&b artists to go. I think that aspiring r&b artists should try other shows (i.e. The Voice or XF) that have more of a level voting base that will actually give r&b and other genres a fair shake at winning. Maybe…..just maybe in the near future an r&b/hip-hop/pop show will provide that venue.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
11:40 am

I wonder if (hope that) the doctors, etc. have looked into diet as a possible factor towards Phillip’s chronic kidney stone condition. Being a south Georgia boy, he probably drinks a lot of sweet tea – which definitely increases one’s odds of getting them.

RK

May 29th, 2012
11:46 am

Record industry? What’s a record?

RK

May 29th, 2012
11:50 am

Reality TV has one thing going for it — I feel like I need to watch it live or same night so that I don’t get spoiled, and so that I can participate in wonderful, thought-provoking blogs such as this.

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
12:02 pm

As for that naked man chewing off another man’s face in Miami last Sunday, and continuing doing so even after cop had shot him once, the attack was explained as “cocaine psychosis”. Sounds like a “walking dead” to me.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
12:14 pm

I was watching a video the other night… and some rappers were singing.

I thought Rodney must have been in the audience ’cause they were singing “Heeeeeeyyyyyyyyy Hoooooooooooooo. Heeeeeeyyyyyyyyy Hooooooooooooooo.”

:-)

Sam-A

May 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

Mercedes: Someone told me about that, said it was horrific to watch the film and that they had to shoot him several times before he stopped, and that he’d eaten half the poor victim’s face off when they got him. UGH! Does sound like “Walking Dead” and if I was on the hospital staff, think I’d keep a close eye on the victim to make sure he doesn’t “turn”.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
12:50 pm

Makes me think of “Hannibal Lecter” from “Silence of the Lambs.”

Makes me shudder.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

“Flesh eating” bacteria
“Face eating” humans

Times are getting scarier and scarier folks.

Albany Uncovered

May 29th, 2012
1:05 pm

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

The conversation has taken an odd turn.

Phil’s girlfriend has said that he is not having the surgery today but that it will be soon.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
1:13 pm

Are those zombies infected by that “flesh eating bacteria?”

DanJ

May 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

Joshua and Jessica have probably already been signed by Jimmie. My guess anyway. I would bet Clive Davis would love to sign Jessica and Hollie.

As far as Jessica’s contract goes she should have tried out for X-Factor. There’s 5 million reasons why! If I were an R&B or Pop singer I’d go for X-Factor or The Voice. If I played a guitar or sang country I’d try out for AI.

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

That statement would make me question the “Functional” part.

MyPatootie

May 29th, 2012
1:45 pm

“Rickster” sure wish you would get off the “sweet tea is bad for you” kick. I am over 50, have had sweet tea(1and one-half cups per gallon) all my life and my kidneys are A-1, top notch, no problems. That is the first time I have ever heard that by the way. Basically stones are mineral deposits, mostly calcium. They are really bad by the way, as I know someone who had them. I once heard a woman, who had been thru both, say if she had the choice of having a baby or kidney stones, she would choose “the baby” and put it up for adoption. That sums it up right there.
As for your earlier comment about Skylar Laine, I predict Reba McEntire will take her under her wings and mentor her along in Nashville. You noticed I’m sure she sang with her on the finale. Reba has the ability and the money to make someone a star in country music.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
1:50 pm

MyPatootie… I’ve heard it from more than one source. Not saying that Sweet tea is bad for you, just that sweet tea drinkers have a higher incidence of kidney stones.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
1:51 pm

It just depends on the type of tea that’s in the blend, though.

MyPatootie

May 29th, 2012
1:52 pm

Agree with you Deirdre about FD, but it sure made me laugh. Why, I don’t know!

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
1:55 pm

Too much sweet tea can cause dehydration which can lead to kidney stones. Too much coffee or regular tea can do the same thing.

MyPatootie

May 29th, 2012
1:55 pm

Oh, forgot to mention. I’m from South GA also, born about 50 miles from PPs hometown of Leesburg, and that’s why I was raised on sweet tea. In SC now, where boiled peanuts are big, and there is nothing better than boiled peanuts and sweet tea. I can hear some of you gagging now!

G

May 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

@DanJ, thanks for the cliff notes version of my thesis. LOL!!! It’s a slow day at work.

I was thinking of running a Twitter and Facebook campaign for R&B and Pop acts not to audition for American Idol…..”IF” they expect to win it all. If all they want is the exposure and make it on the Idol tour, then R&B and Pop acts are good enough to make it there for now. It won’t be long before county and WGWG acts start to dominate the Top 10, and all other acts will be shut out.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
2:00 pm

Plus…. excessive sugar intake can increase the odds of a kidney stone.

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
2:02 pm

Combine the wrong tea with the excess sugar… and you’re heading to the doctor doubled over in pain shouting “make it stop!!”

:-)

G

May 29th, 2012
2:02 pm

Maybe he’s holding off surgery until his CD is released. Marketing ploy.

Harriett

May 29th, 2012
2:12 pm

My P, I am in SC too, but I never eat boiled peanuts.

Vast Wastrel

May 29th, 2012
2:13 pm

Recorded music sales are down 64% from 1999 and the entire paradigm for current revenues has shifted from album sales to electronic singles downloads. Even long established recording acts have to tour now for real money as itunes and the like don’t add up like $60 per head.

As noted by Mercedes we are still awaiting the paradigm shift for broadcast television revenues and I also wonder how Neilsen is even relevant anymore. That being said though it seems at least the top ten kids could be paid at least half as much as the emcee without denting News Corp’s margin too much. If they want to cut production costs get cheaper “judges”. It wouldn’t take much to obtain puppets that could remember their lines better and remain lucid onscreen.

JTesla

May 29th, 2012
2:20 pm

All I know is that sweet tea seems to be the drink of choice for that “To catch a predator” show. So if you ever go to some ones house and they invite you in without even seeing you and say “there is some sweet tea on the counter” pour a glass for Chris Hanson because he’ll be joining you shortly.

Regarding caffeine and dehydration: it doesn’t have as much of an affect as many imagine. If someone who never drinks items with caffeine would have a caffeinated beverage they will still get more hydration from the drink than they lose to caffeine. A regular drinker of caffeinated beverages has built up a tolerance to the drug and therefore the dehydration aspect is virtually negligible.

MyPatootie

May 29th, 2012
2:22 pm

Being the S/A that I am, of course I headed to WebMD to do some research on kidney stones. In reading various articles it seems that over 50% of kidney stone problems are hereditary, and occur more in young and middle-aged people, mostly males. To your credit, Rickster, I did find one column that listed excessive sugar intake as one of about a dozen, including excess salt, as a possible contributor. It is, as I said earlier though, mostly calcium, and uric acid has a hand in it. Diuretics can also contribute heavily to the formation of kidney stones. One plus I did have in my favor though, being a heavy sweet tea drinker(love me some McDonalds) is that it’s better to drink a lot of liquids, even sweet, than to not drink enough, which leads to dehydration. Overall, lots of water is best. I do drink lots of water(mostly hot water, since I take a daily diuretic, at the suggestion of my PCC) so maybe that cancels out the sweet tea. Sure hope so. Do not want any kidney stones!

MyPatootie

May 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

Harriett, you don’t know what you are missing girl! Being from GA I was already hooked on boiled P’nuts anyway, but I find that SC grows a lot of them too. In fact, I buy a canned one in the wintertime that comes out of Effingham SC, called “Peanut Patch” and they are scrumptious. Only a dollar a can at WM. Get you some, but stay away from the “Cajun ones” as they are “rotten”(that is unless you are a Cajun, I guess).

Deirdre

May 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

It’s not so much how much tea or coffee you drink, it has to do with it being the ONLY thing you drink.

Tea has caffeine which contributes to dehydration. As does coffee and cola. In other words, get some water in you then enjoy your tea!

Mercedes S.

May 29th, 2012
2:28 pm

I could do with some boiled peanuts RIGHT NOW!