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Simon Cowell predicts a ‘bloodbath’ for ‘X Factor’ season two

THE X FACTOR: Simon Cowell at the Los Angeles taping of THE X FACTOR airing on FOX. CR: Ray Mickshaw / FOX.

THE X FACTOR: Simon Cowell at the Los Angeles taping of THE X FACTOR airing on FOX. CR: Ray Mickshaw / FOX.

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Simon Cowell isn’t stupid. He certainly was aware of the criticisms of the show.

He told People magazine: “Can we make the show better? Yes. I will never ever go into anything going forward unless I can believe I can make it better. Next year will be a bloodbath. We have to come out with something better than the rest, and that’s what we aim to do.”

A bloodbath? That’s a mighty strong word, even for Cowell.

Hapless host Steve Jones will almost certainly be given one-way ticket back over to the U.K. where he can lick his wounds and realize maybe TV isn’t his thing. Nicole Scherzinger, feeling sufficiently burned by the experience, is an odds-on goner, too.

But what else will Simon do? He recoiled at times to all the seemingly hundreds of dancers, blinding lights and back-up singers that Nicole and L.A. tended to favor. But at the same time, it’s his show so he clearly likes big  production values vs. the simplicity of “Idol,” relatively speaking. He was happy to incorporate hip-hop, which is not a bad thing if you’re trying to draw a younger audience. And just like “America’s Got Talent,” Simon likes a loud, rambunctious live audience, even in the early auditions. Will any of this be toned down?

And why didn’t we see more behind-the-scenes mentoring? I actually enjoy those elements on “The Voice.”

Cowell clearly needs to fish for more interesting judges on his panel. After some early promise, L.A. ended up being more dud than stud. And Nicole was a poor man’s clone of Paula Abdul and significantly faker. Paula herself said she’ll be back and honestly, she was cogent and intelligent throughout the competition. Kudos to Paula!

We can only hope Cowell can find a group of people that mesh well on the panel and even easier, find a half-decent host.

Also, the show had trouble finding viable groups. Heck, they had to create two unwieldy ones out of thin air. In this day of solo glory, groups are out of favor.  Should he even bother to keep groups? Killing that category won’t kill anybody.

Otherwise, the age groupings seem reasonable.

I’m sure Simon will be pushing Melanie Amaro to get an album out as soon as possible and hopefully generate some hit singles pronto. Success on the radio and in digital sales can only help “The X Factor.”  She’s not getting $5 million to sit on her rump!

Curiously, there is no “X Factor” tour that I know of. Even “The Voice” did a modest four-city run with its top 8.

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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk

78 comments Add your comment

Allison Wonderland

December 28th, 2011
5:52 pm

Please make Simon go away!!!

DanJ

December 28th, 2011
5:56 pm

I would rather pay 50 dollars to see the XFactor top 8 than the Idol top 8!

I also have to say Simon shouldn’t say bloodbath. That’s a little over the top even for him. What he should do is READ comments from those who watch the show. I think I said this already but they should includes bands in the groups catagory! I also think America sould be the ones who cut 1 singer from each group instead of the judges picking a throw away at the end of the house shows to cut from 4 down to 3.

DanJ

December 28th, 2011
5:58 pm

sould=should. Sorry for the typo

JTesla

December 28th, 2011
7:20 pm

If there is any change with the judges, do away with the mentoring and the bickering. I don’t want to hear a judge support a contestant because they are a member of their “team”, I want the judge to be able to honestly say if someone stunk or did well.

Otherwise, get rid of Steve Jones before the New Year to have a clean start.

Bloodbath… well we don’t care about behind the scenes stuff since they don’t have a behind the scenes personality like Nigel. That leaves 4 choices since Simon will be excluded from any bloodletting, add Paula to the exclusion list, and that leaves 3 spots to fill. Randy, Jennifer Lopez, and Steven Tyler, that might do it, add a bit of niceness to the judging panel. Then Simon can get that Ryan Seacrest guy to host, with those additions he might be able to compete with the top show of last year.

Pitchy

December 28th, 2011
7:41 pm

Do away with all the lights, the over the top production numbers, the constant bickering of the judges trying to “up” each other with dumb comments. Focus on the singers and their growth.

Would I pay $50 to see anything related to XFactor, not. Wait, I’ll pay to see Rachel Crow.

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RikiTikiTavi

December 28th, 2011
8:10 pm

Seriously folks. This is NOT American Idol. This is a DIFFERENT show. I have watched the UK version for a couple of years now. Our version was the same as theirs. We need to be less homogenized and embrace something that is different from what we already have. Eeessshhhh…..I guess I will end up still watching the UK version because you all would prefer to 1) make it go away or 2) make it the same as other shows we already have.

JTesla

December 28th, 2011
8:29 pm

RikiTikiTavi… different does not always mean better. The Voice was different, many thought it was better. X-Factor was different, it wasn’t better. It needs to get rid of those things that made it horrid, and develop something different that is good.

Perhaps the biggest problem with X-Factor is that it tried too hard to be like Idol. So, Simon and company need to hear that X-Factor “is NOT American Idol.”

Deirdre

December 28th, 2011
9:31 pm

Riki…Other than the circus acts, what we have here is America’s Got Talent. Very little difference between XF and AGT. Simon apparently likes his judges bickering and being nasty to each other. Simon apparently thinks the judges are way more important than the singers…who get hidden behind lighting, fire, flashes, smoke and whose voices we don’t actually get to hear thanks to the loud back-up singers.

Prefer The Voice, The Sing-off and American Idol.

Mo Schreibman

December 28th, 2011
9:48 pm

Maybe do away with the whole television program and then I will consider continuing to watch it but there are no promises here.

DanJ

December 29th, 2011
12:34 am

I hope that the Idol producers of Idol did take notice of a couple of good things about XFactor that they should incorporate. No upper age limit. I don’t think a singer loses his voice after the age of 26. I’ve always thought that was stupid for Idol to do. Josh and Leroy were a breath of fresh air in the singing shows. I would also like them to have a sing-off between the bottom two ala XFactor. My God how many times did a good singer go home while a zero was left in the competition. Sanjaya anyone? With 3 judges let them decide when America drops the ball. Jeez I’m starting to like XFactor more and more… Maybe Simon should give Brian Dunkleman a call to host next year. lol

DanJ

December 29th, 2011
12:37 am

Jeez that should read: “I hope the producers of Idol did take notice….Jeez never again will I post after B&B. Bowling and beer.

Seth T.

December 29th, 2011
1:09 am

Agree with Deirdre, The X-Factor was closer to a singing version of AGT, (with some Jerry Springer stunts) starting with pants-dropping shock-effects for National T.V., one of the Simon contestants singing at the house in mesh nightware, sexually suggestive dancers even bolder than on AGT for the guest rappers, acts from age 13 to 60.

When The Voice first started, a lot of people I know were confused and ticked-off, because it was more like a wrestling match between singers to “pin” the other singer while still doing a duet with them. It did become more entertaining as we got the “drift” of what was going on, a bit of a circus side-show — but at least it was amusing and entertaining. The judges/mentors got a nice personal ride from the show, just check-out the record sales of some of them since the show started.

In my opinion, Idol is still the most likely to produce a viable top 10 or so, that will sell tour tickets at $50. a pop. While I would not mind spending a little time & money to see a combo concert from Josh, Drew, Melanie and Leroy – it wouldn’t be worth sitting through the rest of them to do it. We can see Rachael’s smiling face on Disney later anyway, if she happens to be on when your kids are watching.

Mercedes S.

December 29th, 2011
6:24 am

Main reason I wouldn’t pay $50 to see the imaginary XF tour is I’m afraid the background hoopla, with strobes and flashing lights and flares and cannons going off would induce epileptic fits or other unknown health problems

Mercedes S.

December 29th, 2011
6:25 am

Morning, by the way, and Happy new year!

Highlander

December 29th, 2011
6:47 am

Morning, all!

It’s been mentioned before but I do agree with JT’s 7:20pm post from last night. Having judges who are also mentors naturally generates a huge conflict of interest – especially for L.A. Reid! (Who after Marcus was in the bottom 2 three times still thought he should have gone on. Umm, dude, who do you think is going to buy his album???)

I also suspect that much of the “conflict” between the judges was scripted and I wonder how much time the mentors actually spent with the performers.

Cynical? …Oh, maybe a tad! Doesn’t make it any less valid, though! :D

Highlander

December 29th, 2011
7:22 am

I believe RoHo reported on an earlier thread that X-F’s ratings numbers were half that of Idol. Imagine what kind of blow that must be to Simon’s ego! …Especially when you consider that many of the final shows were up against reruns on the other networks!

bill

December 29th, 2011
7:38 am

that was the worst show ever! American idiol is a hundred times better,better contestants,better judges,better host,and above all,better vareity of music.

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
7:44 am

Morning!

“better host” is like the understatement of the year!

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
7:49 am

I agree with Idol needing to raise the age limit from 29 to maybe 40, although Leroy proved that older shouldn’t matter at all. I have been saying for years that Idol should raise the age limit…so what do they do? They lower it to 15! Thanks Bieber!

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
7:57 am

I’ve seen the JHud commercial where she’s singing with her Idol self…is it my imagination or does one of them go flat at the last note?

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
8:16 am

Kelly Clarkson walked into a firestorm of liberal tweeters when she announced that she’d vote for Ron Paul.

Marcus Brooks

December 29th, 2011
8:57 am

you want to improve the show?
get better judges, I know he LOVES Paula but america does NOT
she is terrible, Nichole is beautiful but yeah a Paula clone.
LA Reed? he adds so little I don’t really care if he comes back or not.
the show is much better than idol IMO but I am not sure 12 is the right age as we saw by how some of the younger ones acted when they got eliminated.

the host was stiff but ANYONE is better than seacrest, ANYONE

joel

December 29th, 2011
9:00 am

I really wanted to like X Factor, something was missing, something I couldn’t put my finger on. I agree, Paula was a bright spot on this show, sometimes giving the best critiques. She looked great and showed a maturity and poise that Nicole lacked. IMO, it would be better with three judges not four, and of course they have got to have a new host. Maybe a woman instead of a guy? I wasn’t crazy about LA, he seemed to think he knew everything there was to know about the music biz. There was definitely too much bickering among the judges, though the format does seem to encourage that. I actually thought that Simon was the worst mentor, even though Melanie won. He made really bad song choices for his contestants, picking old fashioned songs in a competition that is supposed to be about picking a contemporary artist. Melanie was talented, but always seemed to be channeling Whitney and Celine, giving performances that Simon would have called “pageanty” and “old-fashioned” back in his “Idol” days.

'trtainmntatitzbest

December 29th, 2011
9:29 am

In an effort ‘not to be like the rest’ , X-Factor US failed. And not many can live up to host Ryan Sea.

Ron Burgundy

December 29th, 2011
9:29 am

I don’t think bloodbath and X Factor really equate. Maybe say “this years X Factor will be an epic pillow fight” or “This years X factor will be a Melrose Place soap opera on steriods”

Tamar

December 29th, 2011
9:43 am

I agree with much that has been said. The reason I knew almost none of the contestants had the XFactor was they faded into the production and did not stand out. Originally I liked the idea of the judges being mentors and seeing the mentoring, but I stopped watching all the judges comments because they were “homer” comments for their contestant and so critical of the opponent’s. They need a new host who can control the judges and the show. I have no problem with a diversity of music, however, if a person is going to rap, they need to be able to carry a tune. I also have a problem with having singers younger than 16. They may have great voices and stories (i.e., Rachel Crow), but I am not sure they have the maturity to handle the stress and rejection. I loved having no age limit. I would buy a Josh K. song. I could live without the groups. They were unwieldy, and evidently there were not enough good ones that they had to create them. I am delighted that Simon sees the writing on the wall. My co-workers and I were barely watching at the end and do not plan to watch another season.

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
9:45 am

LOL! epic pillow fight! Melrose Place on steroids!

Ron Paul 2012

December 29th, 2011
9:57 am

“Kelly Clarkson walked into a firestorm of liberal tweeters when she announced that she’d vote for Ron Paul.”

I knew there was something I liked about that girl.

Cammi317

December 29th, 2011
10:00 am

I have not and wouldn’t pay to see any of these shows go on tour. Interesting and fun enough to watch at home and blog about, but I can think of much better ways to spend my entertainment money.

Cammi317

December 29th, 2011
10:02 am

Oh and though I did like X-Factor, for whatever reason I sort of got distracted/drifted away towards the end and did not watch the last 3 weeks …. including the finale. Was happy to hear that my pick from the beginnig, Melanie, walked away with the title.

G

December 29th, 2011
10:14 am

If I could only choose between AI and XF, I would pay to see XF. When I’m paying good money, I’m going to need more than just a singer and a mic (unless its a Sing Off concert). That so called “over production” only enhance what the artist brings to the stage. This is nothing less than what new and established stars bring to their concerts.

Another reason I would pay for XF over AI this season, is the top 8 for XF is much stronger. Also, I don’t have to sit through 2 country act. The XF has more variety, more hip, and the Melanie/Josh combo can outsing the entire top 8 on AI. There are no acts in the top 8 of AI that can out perform Chris or Marcus.

The fundamental advantage XF has over AI that would make me spend my money is experienced artist. LeRoy, Josh, etc. are light years above AIs top 50.

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
10:22 am

Well, over-production sure didn’t “enhance” what ANY of the XF contestants brought to the stage. It overwhelmed them, made them disappear into the background, hid their voices, showcased their lack of dance moves and generally diminished our ability to pick out their voices from all the noise around them.

G

December 29th, 2011
10:26 am

As far as proposed changes to XF, I agree some tweaks are needed: Change the host and curtail the bickering. If Simon can get out of his own way, that would be a major adjustment. Any more changes would be a carbon copy of Idol. Then some of you critic bloggers would complain that its too much like Idol, and you prefer the “real thing”.

RxDawg

December 29th, 2011
10:30 am

I don’t get the Nicole hate. I like her. She had good advice and critique. And she’s a better singer then anyone else on that stage.

The host could change I suppose… but I don’t think the weird flow of the show is all his fault.

I also like the production of the performances. We should get a performance like a top notch concert. What’s wrong with that?

Want to make the show better? Don’t let mediocre talent through. Rene couldn’t sing a lick. Most of the girls that Simon sent through were aweful. I KNOW he had better talent to choose from. But he went with weird or different (like 13-14 olds).

G

December 29th, 2011
10:30 am

D, I think XF (much like The Voice) allows the artist to “perform” if its part of their act. As we’ve been told on AI in the past…”This is a singing competition, not a dancing competition”. In other words, artist like Usher and Justin Timberlake (even Justin Bieber) would fit better on XF than AI. AI would hold back their full range of talent. XF embraces it.

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
10:36 am

G, there are better ways to showcase talent than hide it behind glitz. That doesn’t mean that it has to be like Idol. It means that their choice of stripper-style dance routines and flash-bomb pyrotechnics could change to something with a little more class and a lot more innovation. The Voice is innovative. XF is a circus.

LawDawg

December 29th, 2011
10:40 am

It is pretty simple, really. Replace Sherzy and Steve Jones with humans. I am 100% certain that Steve Jones is a poorly-programmed android and Nicole must be some sort of waxy, autistic alien trying to imitate human emotions, but just not quite getting it right.

BrewMan

December 29th, 2011
10:44 am

I don’t think that the performers on XFactor were at all good. It seems like they picked them for personality or quirks over actual talent. I wouldn’t spend a penny for anything any of them put out because they just CAN’T sing, they’re all flat or out of key. The audience for the show would have gone nuts over a wind up monkey with cymbols, it’s all way too scripted and fake. Simon should just go home and sit on his money and give us a break.

G

December 29th, 2011
10:51 am

RxDawg, I agree with you on Nicole. She was good on the Sing Off too. The judges job is to offer critique whether its positive or negative. She does that. The hate on Nicole is simply that.

D, I will admit to The Voice doing a better job of enhancing the artist and is more innovative.

But, I don’t see anything wrong with surrounding an artist like Marcus with professional dancers and a choreographed routine. Then when it was time for Marcus to blow, they sat his behind on a stool. That was his “range” and LA did a good job with him. I know what I’m getting with Marcus…..everything.

Early on, the over production was evident. They tried to overshadow some of the weaker singers with too much “side stuff”. I think as the show progressed and they got to know the remaining artist better, they did a better job of staging.

RxDawg

December 29th, 2011
10:52 am

@joel
December 29th, 2011
9:00 am

I really agreed with your post.

blkshepherd

December 29th, 2011
10:55 am

Roof Roof Roof!

Translation:

If Robo-Host Steve does not return an army of androids will Storm the show and close it down! Its called discrimation against androids who think they are human! Steve believes he is human! If it walks like a human, talks like a human, but has no feelings its a freaking ANDRIOD! Someone please sit Steve Jones down and break the news to him gently that he is not human and has no feelings. I mean even Stevie Wonder can tell Steve Jones is an ANDRIOD that escaped from the X-Planet. (Recently discovered Earth-Like Planet ruled by andriods)

Ok, I have GOT IT! How about since you Idol Knights on Broadway showed your undying love for ASTRO. why not have him Host X-factor? uhhh..hmmm..Why do I hear the sound of crickets? :-/

RxDawg

December 29th, 2011
10:57 am

Thanks G. I also agree with you about people comparing and pushing this show towards Idol. Not that they are really that much different to begin with.

Jon

December 29th, 2011
10:58 am

I don’t think the comment of TV not being “Steve Jones’ thing” is a fair comment; he’s not suited for the American audience, which is unfortunate. He suffered the same plight as Cheryl Cole, one of the original judges for the U.S. edition. Her Welsh accent was “too much for Americans to understand”, which is ultimately pathetic in my opinion. You’re probably right, he’s going to be sent packing, but not for the right reasons.

Deirdre

December 29th, 2011
11:18 am

Baloney on the Cheryl Cole being difficult to understand!!!!! I don’t know what happened there but I would bet it had absolutely nothing to do with her accent.

As for Steve Jones, unfortunately I understood everything he said…awkwardly, without humor or even pathos. And until he gets the pole surgically removed from its current location, he’ll never have the warmth or generosity of spirit that we see from Cat Deeley. He’ll never be as humorous or self-deprecating as Tom Bergeron and he’ll certainly never be a master at running the show while appearing relaxed and at ease, like Ryan Seacrest.

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Mercedes S.

December 29th, 2011
11:24 am

Cheryl Cole has no Welsh accent, since she’s a Geordie (from Newcastle)…Neither Cheryl nor Steve is “hard to understand”…a lot of blame lies with the producers.

Caught the snippet of Steve Jones when he was on the Ellen show, and he actually had charm and wit.

JTesla

December 29th, 2011
11:38 am

Mercedes, maybe he has a twin brother that has charm and wit, because that is not Steve Jones.

Lil Birdie

December 29th, 2011
11:42 am

“She’s not getting $5 million to sit on her rump!” Anyone who knows this industry knows she’s not getting $5mil – period.

met torme

December 29th, 2011
11:43 am

After a few weeks knew the show suc%ed, used the DVR to see Josh and that was it. Only hope that taping it didn’t help the ratings, cause I won’t watch it again, give it a D+ at best