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Exclusive interview with Alton Brown as he wraps up ‘Good Eats’

Publicity shot before his 10th anniversary doing "Good Eats" in 2009

Publicity shot before his 10th anniversary doing "Good Eats" in 2009

Food Network’s “Good Eats” has devoured Alton Brown’s life for 13 years over 250 episodes. Next week, the metro Atlanta resident is planning to finish taping his last episode, a one-hour special on dark chocolate.

In an exclusive interview  earlier this week at his Atlanta office, Brown said the relentless pace of producing the meticulously crafted, assiduously researched and always entertaining food education show hindered time for other pursuits.

“I feel after 250,” Brown said, “I can walk away from that library of work and feel good about it and know it’s had an effect to some degree on somebody besides me and those who worked on it. And it will hold its own for awhile. We wanted to make sure they were dense, juicy and succulent and last a long time.”

Besides, he said, the six-year-old set is “worn out. If we kept going, we’d have to replace it.” Instead it will be dismantled. He plans to keep a handful of props for himself including the painting of a chicken with a bowler hat and the paper mache chicken on the counter. “Maybe the bongos, too,” he mused.

The move was mutual. He never paid attention to ratings, which were consistent. Food Network has cut back on the number of “Good Eats” episodes it airs. (In April, 2009, it was airing the show 24 times a week. In April, 2010, 14 times a week. By this past April, just twice a week.) But it plans to air the repeats on its sister station the Cooking Channel more frequently down the road.

Brown plans to keep this painting of the chicken with the bowler hat once the "Good Eats" set is dismantled. CREDIT: Rodney Ho/rho@ajc.com

Brown plans to keep this painting of the chicken with the bowler hat once the "Good Eats" set is dismantled. CREDIT: Rodney Ho/rho@ajc.com

Brown said nostalgia has yet to set in. “I haven’t had a chance to stop and look back like at the end of ‘Toy Story 3′ when he’s driving off to the next point of his life and says goodbye to his toys. I’m proud to have been able to provide employment to a bunch of people for a good many years and hopefully more. I’m proud to say I’ve never phoned it in. I gave every one of those 250 episodes my honest-to-gosh all.”

Brown isn’t disappearing any time soon. He’s set to release the third of three “Good Eats” books September 27. He’s still a spokesman for Welch’s Grape Juice. He remains the sardonic commentator of “Iron Chef America” and co host of ‘The Next Iron Chef.” In March, he signed a three-year extension with the Food Network with new projects forthcoming.

For instance, he’s producing a mini-series about how food such as nutmeg and cod has influenced history. “Cod!” he exclaimed, with that smart-alecky grin. “Cod actually changed the world!”

Brown, after much resistance, joined Twitter in May and enjoyed corresponding with fans. But when someone pretended to be his wife DeAnna and used a photo of his family as the avatar earlier this month, he went ballistic and quit Twitter in a huff.

“I always want to protect my daughter Zoey,” he said. “I blew a gasket. If they had done anything but use that picture, I would have laughed it off. It’s like killing Mad Max’s dog. That crossed the line.”

He hasn’t ruled out other social mediums such as Facebook and still maintains his website. As for Twitter, “I’m not cut out for that environment. I’ll get mad again. Life is too short.”

Above is the column that will appear in the print edition on Monday, August 29.

Another prop Brown plans to keep: the paper mache chicken on the set counter.

Another prop Brown plans to keep: the paper mache chicken on the set counter.

Here’s bonus information he gave me that didn’t make it in:

Why no more “Feasting on Asphalt” specials: “We were going to do an international ‘Feasting on Rails’ in Europe but then the economy changed. We put it on hold and it never came to be.”

After the third book: “I want to do enhanced E-books. I’m working with a company that is pioneering this work but must remain nameless.”

His favorite episodes: “I tend to grab hold of odd ones for strange reasons. Those I like tend to involve strange camera things. Several of my favorites from the last two years include the second oatmeal show and lasagna. I also liked one we did on devil’s food cake.  I like shows from our last two seasons. We’ve gotten more polished. Plus, there are shows I remember now better than they actually were. I have often said I loved this garlic episode where we see things through the eyes of a vampire. That used to be my favorite because it seemed so clever. Then I saw it again two years ago. That’s not that good after all! That’s why I’ve stopped watching reruns.”

Running out of topics? “If we’re limited, it’s by my imagination. Food Network has been sensitive to keep us very mainstream. That’s why you’ve never seen a rabbit episode or episodes with unusual ingredients… Plus, I didn’t feel the right to go into ethnicities. We’ve done some Japanese some Mexican, a little Chinese, but not in a way that we are experts… We certainly didn’t run out of food. Sometimes, we’ve done a second pass on things. You can’t say everything about oatmeal in one episode. So years later, we’ve gone back.”

Why dark chocolate for the final show? “Dark chocolate is much more popular now. It used to be just bittersweet, semisweet and milk. Now it’s 68 percent cacao or 70 percent cacao. And people never get tired of watching chocolate shows!”

Impetus for losing 50 pounds: “I wasn’t in anywhere near as good a shape as I could’ve been. I couldn’t keep up with the show. I looked clunky doing it. I can keep up now. Before, the show was beating me up so bad, I’d be laid out by the end of the day. That’s not happening anymore.”

His diet: Drinking a La Croix flavored water, he said he has cut out a lot of foods from his diet including most sweets and red meat. “In the mornings, especially during shoots, I’ll eat oatmeal or a fruit smoothie. I don’t eat lunch. I snack throughout the day. Eating lunch slows me down. I’ll eat nuts. If there’s a salad or beans, I might eat that. They do a nice lunch here. Then I take leftovers and eat that for dinner with my family.”

Why Thanksgiving as his second-to-last special? The first Thanksgiving special was from 1999. Food Network airs it every year. It’s become their Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. It does huge ratings every year. But they wanted a new one. They wanted me to go out with one more look at Thanksgiving. It will be a way to do a low-stress Thanksgiving meal starting four days before. We create a modular meal to allow you to follow a set of instructions. And this also gives me an excuse to bring back a bunch of old characters from the past. Lucky Yates will be back as the dungeon master. Sid the sports agent will be there [played by Bart Hansard]. Widdi Turner will play a very cruel nurse to Colonel Sanders. Merrilyn Crouch will be back as my older sister Marsha. Chuck the next door neighbor will be there [played by Daniel Pettrow.].

Jeff Mauro winning “Food Network Star”: “I was in the first episode. When I left the shoot that day, I told the producers if there was one person I’d put my money on to win it would be Jeff. He knew what he wanted to do. He wanted to make sandwiches. Most don’t know what they want to do. Most are so desperate to be liked, they can’t figure it out. He stuck with it. Maybe he’ll pull it off.” [As he noted, most "Food Network Star" reality show winners have not become huge stars, save for Guy Fieri.]

His single encounter with tart-tongued Anthony Bourdain, who recently dissed many Food Network stars but omitted Brown: “Back in 2000, when ‘Good Eats’ won a James Beard award, I met him and I was incredibly intimidated. He’s such a good writer. [Bourdain had just published "Kitchen Confidential"]. I wanted him to sign a book. I chickened out. We have not encountered each other since. I love his work. ‘No Reservations’ is one of the best shows on television.”

His Welch’s deal: “We just finished a new set of commercials up in the Finger Lakes in upstate New York. We did three… People who see the ads may have never seen me before. Your cred goes up. Someone likes you enough to give you money to do this. For me, there’s no down side. Welch’s is owned by farmers. It’s a co-op. They’re extraordinarily finicky about their product. And it’s the most American of foods. Every other fruit comes from somewhere else… Concord grapes are American.”

The purity of his show, which features no endorsements (all kitchen appliances have logos taken off): “Food Network has never asked me to place product ever. For any reason. It’s never been suggested… Endorsements can weigh you down. I don’t want to be a dancing monkey. And I’m way too mouthy. I don’t like being bullied. Of course, nobody has come to me with the big payoff. Nobody has said, ‘Mr. Brown. We want to pay you $10 million!’ I’m not the kind of guy that happens to.  If this was the music world, I wouldn’t be Britney Spears. I’m Tom Waits. I get some sweet medium-sized love from fans and companies that I serve very well. That’s fine. That’s enough.”

“Good Eats” was a loss leader: “We don’t make enough with ‘Good Eats’ to keep my company open. We can with speaking fees and publication fees. ‘Good Eats’ is a loss leader, the prime rib on the buffet in Vegas. It’s my sweet little Faberge egg. I get to fawn over it. We treated it well. It built credibility. Once you’ve lost that, it’s hard to get it back.”

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By Rodney Ho, rho@ajc.com, AJCRadioTV blog

93 comments Add your comment

Bob

August 27th, 2011
11:23 am

AB’s show was head and shoulders above any other Food Network offering. We will miss it. If it hasn’t been done already, a collection of DVD’s with the whole 250, with a subject matter index, would probably be a good seller (or, at least, good enough to make it worthwhile to do).

poof!!!

August 27th, 2011
12:30 pm

Very educational and entertaining show.

Matt

August 27th, 2011
12:41 pm

“Food Network has cut back on the number of “Good Eats” episodes it airs.” Yeah, God forbid that they actually have ANY shows on that deal with actual cooking. There’s always room for another boring, predictable, over-hyped competition show. (snark now off) So long, Alton your show will be missed.

vhk

August 27th, 2011
1:39 pm

There are alot of other shows I would rather see go than this one.

a reader

August 27th, 2011
2:08 pm

didn’t alton get his look from thomas dolby…?

Bruso13

August 27th, 2011
2:29 pm

Alton: You are an asset to society, your informative, educating and entertaining show will be missed but I am sure you will land on your feet and we will be watching new creations by you soon. Best wishes to you and I will see you at Harry’s. Oh, by the way, you were correct in your reaction to the Twits On Twitter.

HelpMeRodna

August 27th, 2011
2:30 pm

Never heard of him. Which season of American Idol was he on?

Sky

August 27th, 2011
2:36 pm

One of the sadest things I heard. Reading the headlines gave me an empty feeling.
Good Eats has been a mainstay of television in my home since its inception. I’ll
truly miss this show and have often wondered why the shows were getting harder
to find. If it was failing, it was Food Network and their times chosen to air it. I didn’t
know you had to produce Good Eats yourself. Since I don’t get Food Channel, I’ll
not be seeing AB there. I can only hope he will re-emerge – perhaps on Travel Channel.
AB, thanks for helping a lot of us to get in the kitchen and do. Have truly enjoyed
the twist you gave us. Good Stuff!

Blake

August 27th, 2011
2:37 pm

It either takes a while for a comment to show up or I used a word they find unacceptable, so I will just say this. With Good Eats ending Food Network has lost a viewer. The rest of the shows have been dumbed down for the idiots who watch junk like jersey shore and the real housewives.
RIP Food Network, I refuse to watch you but will never forget you.

up north

August 27th, 2011
2:44 pm

Alton has remained my favorite Food Network person, while others have come and gone. I do wish they would stop the “reality” type shows, and stick to the basics. I never could stand even 30 seconds of the Iron Chef crap, either. Good luck to Alton in his future endeavors.

Lisa

August 27th, 2011
2:59 pm

I will miss him. But I somehow think he will return. Well, I hope he will. He influenced tons of non cooks to give it a try. Who can ever forget his turkey derrick!

Mr. Ed

August 27th, 2011
3:45 pm

“I never could stand even 30 seconds of the Iron Chef”

I’ll second you on that statement. Furthemore, “Chopped” has become long in the tooth. While I’m complaining, let me add that I don’t care to watch the casting call for the next Food Network star.

I miss Alton already.

dave

August 27th, 2011
4:22 pm

Didn’t watch the show that much but it was a good show. What the food network really needs to do is get rid of that Guy Fier dude. He is a ugly obnoxious pig.

meanja

August 27th, 2011
5:59 pm

So sad….It seriously one of the best shows…I’m only 20 and I already have nostalgia over those great 250 episodes. Good Luck in whatever the future has planned for you!

jaypat

August 28th, 2011
1:30 am

All good things come to an end. The nation’s #1 carpenter, Norm Abram (”The New Yankee Workshop”), finally called it quits. If you’re any kind of woodworker, this left a bittersweet taste

If you’re any kind of cook, you feel the same way about the termination of “Good Eats.”

My little boy latched onto Alton’s persona and became one of his adherents. He was determined to learn how to cook.. That was back in the 1990’s when he was about 10. I think he made it; he’s one helluva cook, for never having a formal class in the culinary arts. Practice, the right way, has served him well.

He learned the right way from Alton Brown and he understood why he was doing it. It doesn’t get any better that this.

So long for now, Mr. Brown. You did well, sir.

old dude

August 28th, 2011
9:18 am

To AB: like all others, I have truly enjoyed GE’s in a way and to a degree that television has rarely satisfied my entertainment taste buds. No need to wish “good luck” for your future …it wasn’t luck that got you this far. As to the show about the codfish and how it changed the world, I am a high school history teacher and used “Cod” as required reading for my students a year ago. Fascinating! I am sure your episode will more than entertain and educate …it will enthrall!

Anna

August 28th, 2011
10:50 am

So sorry to see Good Eats go. I’ve enjoyed learning things about food I didn’t know and discovering new foods and methods for preparing them. I really haven’t had a bad Good Eats recipe and my husband always looks forward to a new dish.
I’m sure I’ll continue to DVR the show on the Cooking Channel. (Hey, it took three viewings before I broke down and tried the Brussels Sprouts recipes.)
Best of luck to AB and thanks for the epicural memories!

Luna

August 28th, 2011
12:47 pm

so sad you are done! your show was great!

Eric

August 28th, 2011
3:08 pm

Alton made me into a cooking fiend. Ever since I started watching (and buying his books) I’ve been more and more interested in learning about cooking and the techniques and science that underlie that great pastime. It’s sad to see him go, but we can all look forward to some specials, books and other one-off shows to fill the void. Good luck, AB!

Angel Kymer

August 28th, 2011
6:29 pm

Alton, you have brought me and my whole family many hours of enjoyment watching Good Eats and Feasting On. I have always loved the informational quality of your shows, and greatly appreciated your goofy sense of humor. I will continue to watch you in re-runs and wish you the most success in your next endeavors.

globeflyer

August 28th, 2011
8:16 pm

Bourdain can’t carry Alton’s “jockstrap” when it comes to class. There has never been more of a pompous ass on a food network than Mr. Anthony and, conversely, Alton Brown has done a lot to educate and entertain those of us who don’t have the time to devote to learning all there is to know about cooking. When Bourdain started spouting off about politics, I knew he is not really “about the food”. I can get my “numb-nutted” political spew from the major networks……

KC

August 28th, 2011
8:33 pm

Best cooking show EVER! (One of my favorite shows of all time) AB makes it look so easy. Following his cookbook instructions is easy, I should have learned to cook sooner. He will be missed.

Sue Reynolds

August 28th, 2011
9:20 pm

Good Eats wasn’t just a good program for the whole family but we all grew to love and respect Alton Brown..he was like family.

Dave Kosh

August 28th, 2011
10:51 pm

After all this time, how is it that AltonBrown, and Good Eats has been the only original show of its kind? Everyone else on that network has the same show, delivery, and “reading the cookbook” type of delivery that only makes me appreciate the effort Mr. Brown made to give his shows something extra. I loved the books, and will await the next one. There are three coking shows that are timeless in my opinion. Great Chefs, Julia Child, and the great Alton BRown with Good Eats! Thankyou for the decade plus of quality work.

so tired of your talk

August 29th, 2011
8:02 am

great article rodney– and alton brown? much love!!

lilboyblu83

August 29th, 2011
10:32 am

I have absolutely admired Alton Brown for many MANY years. ‘Good Eats’ was truly a fun, quirky, informative, inspirational program that the world sincerely should be indebted to. Thank you, Alton, for sharing so many years of your humorous knowledge, and for not wavering on who you are, as a chef, and as a person.

A.J.

August 29th, 2011
4:28 pm

One of my food network favorites. It will be missed.

MatthewH

August 29th, 2011
5:17 pm

Ever since we saw the Thanksgiving episode, my wife has cooked the turkey just like Alton did. Soaking it in brine overnight, putting it in an extremely hot oven for just a few minutes and then a slow roast, foil on the bird. And he taught me how to carve-unlike anybody else, but it works. Everyone raves about my wife’s turkey, and it’s all due to AB!

Chuckles™

August 29th, 2011
10:01 pm

I have had the great honor & privilege to meet & spend a bit of time with Mr. Brown. Some on this blog have attempted to portray him in a negative light. You folks are trolls of the lowest form. Go slink back under your bridge with that French chef villain that Alton saved us from that he filmed at the Old Mountasia Golf that is now home to condos.

He’s a brilliant economist. He says he’s cheap-natured. The result: 250 episodes that had every cent he could spend on the screen without being wasteful. It shows.

He’s a guy who, in person, is modest, not outspoken, and actually a bit on the shy side. But he can turn into the gastronomical edition of ‘Mr. Wizard’ (my hero, btw) when necessary.

He & his wife deserve every dime they’re earned together. They are a great team. And it’s a sign of their partnership that most folks don’t know how truly committed they both have been to get to where they are now.

He is a Mac user. Nuf. Ced. :-)

And as for his future – I anxiously await with the rest of you to see what he comes up with next, because it’s sure to include…

(da DA da dada dada DADADA)

Buzz

August 29th, 2011
11:09 pm

Gonna miss you, Alton. Because of you, we eat better around here, and we even understand why. And we’ve been brining our turkeys for years now, thanks to you. Thanks.

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Praveen

August 30th, 2011
9:31 am

Alton Brown is one of the very few Food Network people I watched. The channel has become second rate. It’s a good thing the sister network Travel Channel has become a better Food channel.

Oh, and SCIIIIIIIEEEENCE!!!!

Dana Blankenhorn

August 30th, 2011
10:04 am

The one “Good Eats” endorsement deal I regret Alton not doing would have been one with Ace Hardware. So many of his episodes (especially early on) would go off on his use of this or that “from a hardware store” that it just seemed a natural fit, an end-cap with stuff that’s in-stock regularly (I still use an upside-down plant saucer for pizza — it’s outlasted 2 pizza stones) and maybe a few Good Eats books.

Thanks for keeping it real, Alton, and thanks for letting your mom win on “Scrap Iron Chef.” And thanks for letting your meemaw make biscuits with you. It’s the heart that made the show real, and will keep it a TV landmark for years to come. (Anything else? Guess not. Oh, bother…)

Darlene Wilcox

August 30th, 2011
1:07 pm

I just want to add my voice to the chorus of praisers expressing our gratitude for an intelligent, informational and educational television show that also happened to be about food preparation. I will watch for the reruns again and again. Thanks Alton

Patrick Schluth

August 30th, 2011
9:40 pm

so so so sad to see the show that helped me pick a career go, but he will pop up somewhere else

auriff

August 31st, 2011
2:08 pm

Thanks for all your shows Alton. For a time, your show replaced another late night talk that used to “tuck:” America into bed. I owe you a big thanks, for many reasons, but without Good Eats on the food network, I no longer watch that network. I learned a lot from your show, and as far as I am concerned, you project a warmth and sincerity much like Johnny did. Good luck. PS Perhaps you will consider doing specials throughout the years, I hope.

Briner Lon

September 1st, 2011
6:10 am

When I heard the show was ending it felt like a punch to the gut. One of the finest shows ever on T.V. Because of you AB I can cook a damn good steak, My kids loved the show also. Can’t wait to see you in Bham and get you to sign my salt box.

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September 1st, 2011
2:21 pm

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Jim

September 2nd, 2011
7:25 pm

It is a sad day to see the only really interesting show come to an end. The recipes and the science behind then have launched me on the road to modification and experimenting on new and fascinating adventures in food preparation. Thank you Alton Brown for your inspiration and if by some small chance you should come to change your mind I will be very thankful as I am for your previous entertaining and educational masterpieces.

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Kristine

September 4th, 2011
10:44 am

Hands down – one of the best shows ever aired on the Food Channel. You’ve taught us all well and with any luck – your books will continue to teach my kids.
Thanks Alton!
PS – met one of your previous staff members in Chicago – Hugh – he’s carried your spirit and no nonsense approach to quality food.

baidu678

September 8th, 2011
1:08 am

Thank You for this post. Just found it on google and i have to say that i;m really really surprised Thanks again and cheers dude!