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History Channel rejects Georgia Sons of Confederate Veterans ads

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The Georgia Sons of Confederate Veterans organization is up in arms over the History channel’s decision not to run its ads promoting the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War, or what the group calls “The War of Southern Independence.” The group accused the cable network to succumbing to political correctness.

According to a Morris News Service story:

The organization asserts that in seceding, Southern states were exercising a right that New England states had claimed since the country’s founding and that Confederates fought to defend that right when Union forces “invaded” to prevent secession.

The ads also argue that the South seceded partly because “northern congressmen were able to vote themselves virtually anything they wanted, using southern tax money, while the South was powerless to stop it.

Slavery? Not the primary issue and besides, the North trafficked heavily in slavery and profited from it more than the South, the group says in this video.

The History channel (apparently “channel” is no longer part of the name) in a statement says it does not allow such ads as a matter of policy:

History channel does not sell time for advertising that presents a partisan position on a controversial issue (of course we do accept ads from political candidates under the political advertising rules). We have confirmed that the ad was never pitched to A&E Television Networks (AETN), but to a local distributor who accepted the ad without AETN’s awareness or approval. We have informed them that the ad is outside the scope of our guidelines and may not be aired during any of our programming. AETN’s advertising guidelines, which are similar to those of other broadcast and cable networks, do not permit such an ad as explained above. Indeed, AETN is not aware of any other network who has accepted or aired the ad.To our knowledge, it is not currently running on any of our networks, including History.

The state division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans has been running ads in various radio and TV outlets in Georgia including local stations in Atlanta and plans to do so for the next year, said Jack Bridwell, commander for the group, in an interview today.

“We’re trying to help tourism,” said Bridwell, a retired educator who lives in Moultrie. “Georgia has so much rich history in relationship to the War Between the States. We’d like to get it out there.”

“We were very careful in constructing the ads,” Bridwell continued. “The one thing they seem to be kicking on was the verbiage when we said the South was invaded. That seemed to bother them. We were invaded. We had legally separated from the union. We were a separate country. If they take offense to the truth, they are losing their reliability. It offends me they aren’t going to use it. I had been a big fan of the History Channel. I’ve quit watching it.”

The ads are also on YouTube. Here is the lead ad:

And here’s the video script:

The year 2011 will mark the 150th anniversary of the War for Southern Independence ; and the Sons of Confederate Veterans encourage you to celebrate this noble time in our history when men and women of the South stood courageously for liberty, even in the face of insurmountable odds.

Not a “civil war” fought to take over the united States, as it is called in history books today, this was a war in which Southerners fought to defend their homes and families against an aggressive invasion by federal troops. The South peacefully seceded, just like our Founding Fathers did in 1776 with England ; and all we wanted was to be left alone to govern ourselves. But the north and Abraham Lincoln would not allow the South to peacefully leave because of the taxes and tariffs the South paid.

So the South fought for her liberty… and fought valiantly. Men like Jackson, Forrest and Lee. Outnumbered in some battles 5 to 1.

Don’t let others do your thinking for you. Don’t allow them to rob you of your heritage while they celebrate their own. Be proud of your Southern history and heritage .

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By Rodney Ho, rho@ajc.com, AJCRadioTV blog

71 comments Add your comment

Chuck

December 6th, 2010
3:12 pm

Never was much of a fan of the history channel….now I like them.

sonja

December 6th, 2010
3:19 pm

Why should Georgians be proud of the confederate history? It should be remembered, but not celebrated. We should not be celebrating the history of the south, which includes racism and slavery! That’s not to say that northern states were not racists, but the whole sons of the confederate fought to succeed and to keep slaves! Let’s be truthful confederate sons!

1911A1

December 6th, 2010
3:29 pm

How’s that Kool-Aid, sonja?

Reality TV blows

December 6th, 2010
4:03 pm

Meh, I’ve become very disenchanted with the history channel over the last five years as they basically air this mindless occupational based reality shows in lieu of real history. It’s no longer the “history” channel as there is basically no true history based programing anymore.

Looks like History is becoming like MTV in the 90s when they stopped showing music videos and started airing all those horrible “reality” shows. Maybe history will start a “History 2″ channel where they actually show historical programming.

yep

December 6th, 2010
4:04 pm

I’m willing to let Confederate history go if blacks are willing to let slavery go. I’d say it’s time both are left behind for good.

CommonSense

December 6th, 2010
4:06 pm

go ahead and wipe our history away forever. you’ll regret it, tho

jimATL

December 6th, 2010
4:10 pm

Congratulations, Rodney, for giving the Rebels exactly what they wanted – free media traction for a rejection they knew was coming. Next time just ignore this “story”.

Fundad

December 6th, 2010
4:24 pm

I am amazed @ how much honor & respect everyone seems to have for our founders who “seceeded” from England but have such vitriol and disdain when it comes to Southerners who did the same thing in the “War of Northern Aggression”. I realize that Blacks were/are still mad about slavery. I also realize that Southerners are responsible for letting the KKK hijack the Confederate flag & institute a program of racism that has contributed to the loss of honor and respect for the South, but that is no justification for the re-writing of history on the Civil War. Lincoln invaded the South to “preserve the Union”, not to free the slaves. Less than 10% of the people in the South even owned a slave, do you think they would have fought a war just for that? Puhleaze.

Vic

December 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

I get a kick out of people who want to pretend the Civil War was about states’ right and ignore it was a states’ right to legalize slavery.

I’m an American born and living in the south, but do not consider CSA part of my heritage at all. Southerners of the time tried to break off into their own country and the USA stopped them. I’m an American first and from the south second. Do the French and Polish go around with Nazi flags because they were once occupied by Nazi Germany and claim it as their heritage?

J.R.

December 6th, 2010
5:51 pm

Come on, Vic. Comparing the Confederate States to Nazi Germany??? Really, Vic?

lkjlkj

December 6th, 2010
6:06 pm

I’m glad they refused the ad. Like we need any more negative images to reinforce the kook backwater perception…

Sheesh, I’ve lived in two other Southern states, but I’m telling you Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi stand alone with this Confederate stuff. It’s a different world once you cross the southern borders of North Carolina and Tennesee, what I call the kook line.

JTesla

December 6th, 2010
6:39 pm

I find the revisionist history to be quite laughable. “War of Northern Aggression” LOL if people had not seized federal property the Northern response would not have been needed. Theft tends to upset people.

I find this part of the ad laughable: “seceded partly because ‘northern congressmen were able to vote themselves virtually anything they wanted’” especially considering that the South still had a stranglehold on the Senate and with it also control of the federal courts. Of course, the reason they needed to act was because they could read the writing on the wall after the Dred Scott decision. Granted, I’m not certain how it is that the phrase does not apply today.

JTesla

December 6th, 2010
6:40 pm

“they needed to act…” they being the South.

Traffic Headache

December 6th, 2010
7:28 pm

The North won. Get over it.

Southern Pride Group Sues History Channel

December 6th, 2010
8:51 pm

[...] one thing they seem to be kicking on was the verbiage when we said the South was invaded,” said Jack Bridwell, a commander in the group. “That seemed to bother them. We were invaded. We had [...]

Atlantaphotog

December 6th, 2010
11:26 pm

Please. Every adult in the South should have been locked up for life for being traitors to the country when the war was over and done with. They should consider themselves lucky Lincoln had a more civilized attitude than they would have. Just think if they HAD succeeded in causing the U.S. to break in half back then – what would have happened during World War 1? World War 2 for that matter? BOTH halves would most likely have a German or Japanese flag flying on their poles now if that had happened. We can thank God that the North did win and pull it all back together.

The history channel has better things to do than promote people who probably still have a separatist mentality. You want your own “Confederate” country? Go buy a chunk of Mexico and CREATE one, then. They’ll sell it to you for the right price.

niecey

December 6th, 2010
11:29 pm

how convenient (for you) that you would like blacks to forget slavery. we’ll forget it when it stops affecting us. should we go ahead and forget jim crow too?

yep

December 7th, 2010
9:27 am

No niecey, you just keep using it as an excuse for living the thug lifestyle 46 years after the Civil Rights Act was made law. But you probably have no clue that there are plenty of hard working blacks out there who refuse to do that.

PTC DAWG

December 7th, 2010
10:07 am

The owners of the channel are free to pick and choose who they want money from. It’s that simple. Viewers are free to choose to watch or not.

Jesse Jackson

December 7th, 2010
10:31 am

lot of racist people on here with their racist comments

Ron

December 7th, 2010
11:43 am

The South should be thankful they lost. How long could the Confederate states lasted with no real industry besides the ones dependent on free slave labor? I agree with someone else who said up there – remembering is fine, but not celebrating it.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
12:04 pm

More hilarious hypocrisy from Yankees. The North indeed did profit from slavery, and NYC was a major slave trading center just a couple of decades before the Civil War began. Yankees didn’t treat blacks as equals either; didn’t pay them as much as they did the white soldiers. Keep in mind that Chicago is the most segregated city in the U.S. It ain’t in the South. As far as the History Channel, who watches the crap? I bought a vid from them once and they do nothing but hound my e-mail box every day to buy more…ain’t gonna happen.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
12:06 pm

“Sheesh, I’ve lived in two other Southern states, but I’m telling you Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi stand alone with this Confederate stuff. It’s a different world once you cross the southern borders of North Carolina and Tennesee, what I call the kook line.”

It’s called heritage, carpet bagger. Something you drifters from the cesspool North don’t have; never did.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
12:09 pm

Keep another thing in mind, Yankee apologists: The North openly fired on civilians in Charleston, so be proud, and moving back up to your polluted, rotten North might be a fine idea. We don’t want you.

Ernie

December 7th, 2010
12:14 pm

Enter your comments here

bob smith

December 7th, 2010
12:57 pm

Moto, Calm down, the War ended 145 years ago. First, if you’re still calling Northerners “Yankees”, well, you’re a dead ender living in a bygone era. Same goes for the term carpet bagger. Second, the North underpaying black soldiers is pretty mild compared with enslaving them and they buying and selling them as property. Third, fighting to preserve a system that includes human bondage is hardly consistent with the South “standing courageously for liberty.” Fourth, you can call it “states rights” all you want, but the primary threatened right therein was the right to own human beings. Finally, you’re still on the wrong side of history 145 years later…congrats!

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
1:38 pm

@bob smith
I just wonder how much you wonderful Northerners would’ve felt about slavery if the North had been agricultural-based as the South was….

bob smith

December 7th, 2010
2:00 pm

Moto,

You assume too much. Not a northerner, I was born and raised in TX.

My great-great grandparents, farmers in New Hampshire, may have wanted to use slaves in the 1850’s. But it was unavailable to them, having been outlawed, so it’s a moot point.

As for your point, the precise nature of the South’s economy in no way justified their continued use of slavery or their willingness to fight a war to maintain a system that included human bondage.

Bottom line: your side was wrong, they lost, time to move on.

war eagle

December 7th, 2010
2:12 pm

have you all forgotten that if it wasn’t for the white man you africans would be running for your lives now during the african wars and looking for food in the trees. if you were not born 1860,you have no right to ask for reparations nor claim oppression. Look at the crime statistics. Look at who is getting locked up on a nightly basis. It is the white population that is being oppressed by the black people. You don’t need jackson and sharpton and farrakhan to think for you. They think you are mindless sheep! They dress up to the 9’s and you are looking for a job. Well, blame Obama. There are NO jobs coming out of THAT office nor out of the 3 stooge’s office either. Time to smarten up.

bob smith

December 7th, 2010
2:22 pm

@WarEagle,

Wow, you’re not even trying to hide the racism. “You africans” is supposed to refer to African-Americans who have ancestors in America going back many generations?

As for the main point, you can argue hypothetically that SOME people of African ancestry TODAY are better off than they would have been otherwise due to slavery. But (1) the purpose of slavery at the time was not a desire by southern whites to improve the lot of blacks who would live 100+ years in the future; and (2) it wasn’t really our place to decide that Africans should be forceable relocated to America to do manual labor; and (3) the Africans of the 1700’s and 1800’s who died there, or on the long journey to America, or after they were sold into slavery most certainly DID NOT have it better off than those who stayed in Africa.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
2:31 pm

“My great-great grandparents, farmers in New Hampshire, may have wanted to use slaves in the 1850’s. But it was unavailable to them, having been outlawed, so it’s a moot point.”

Not moot at all; and glad you acknowledge that owning help would have probably appealed to them.
Quote I heard once in VT: “How do I feel about black people? Everybody should own one.”

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
2:38 pm

@war eagle
Dey dooo lub dem cell fones too. Don’t foget dat.

bob smith

December 7th, 2010
2:52 pm

@MOTO,

You’re missing my point. Maybe slaves would have helped them, maybe not. But slavery, due to its morally repugnant nature, was no longer an option in the north of the 1850’s. And that was a good thing. It’s not just about what would make agriculture easier for white landowners. It’s about the basic dignity of humans and their right NOT TO BE OWNED AS SOMEONE ELSE’S PROPERTY.

And your most recent comment is more of the backward silly racist stereotypes that war eagle threw in above. Really, making fun of blacks’ speech and their use of cell phones? Why, cuz white people just don’t love their iPhones, iPads, Blackberrys, etc.?

Sorry, but your humor and worldview are stuck in the Jim Crow days. Like I said, it’s time to admit your side was wrong (in the 1860’s on slavery, and in the 1960’s on civil and voting rights). You lost on both accounts; time to get over it and move on. Or you could just stay stuck in a self-perpetuating cycle of resentment that died a generation ago for most Americans. Like I said earlier, that’s just a dead end. It’s your choice.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
3:15 pm

@bob
Black people need to be more appreciative of all the wonderful things the EVIL white man has provided. They lub dem muhfuh thangs more than a six-week crap game.

bob smith

December 7th, 2010
3:54 pm

@Moto,

You got some serious 1850’s coursing through your veins. As well as the racism of southern white trash. Your ignorance is blinding. Must suck to be a hater like you.

Brad Quinlin

December 7th, 2010
3:59 pm

Lets tell all history, American can not be blamed for slavery, only 6 % of the slaves taken out of Africa made it to north America. If the Southern democrates had not played stupid and gone out on their own in the 1861 election war would have not happened. The northern congressmen controlling the congress is an out right lie. This did not happen read your history. not coolaid. Federal arsenals and forts were taken before states suceeded, John Brown did this and he was hung. RIGHT Susession was tested many times and by New York, Penn., Vermont, South Carolina and the southern elected President sent troops to the border to stop sucession. Read your history With the passing of the fugitive slave act. It told northerners that they were forced by southern states to live by their laws. This bill did more to bring war than any other bill. Lets get real here, Slavery was the one issue in the fabric of America in 1861 that caused violence and forced us to stop talking and led us to war. Many men did not enlist to stop slavery or to save slavery but as more Yankees saw the evil of slavery they would stay and want slavery out. The sons of confederate veterans have a brused ego and need to right the ship and after 150 years need to remember the dead and honor them not the politics. Honor the dead, honor the dead. Get real SCV and honor the dead.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
4:52 pm

@bob
Suck to be me? Not hardly. I just state facts, son. Is your daughter dating a bro, Bobby Boy?
Just curious. Did you live in Austin by any chance?

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
4:58 pm

Brad ol’ buddy, might wanna brush up on the spelling. You’re right, the War of Northern Aggression was about more than slavery. White Northerners just like to think that’s what it was about to make them feel better about their own racism.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
5:01 pm

But as far as the term “Yankee,” it is becoming more and more obsolete, there’s no doubt about it. Much of the North today contains lower latituders who couldn’t care less about the history of the country, and it’s only going to get worse, much worse. I suspect ol’ Bobby above is doing his part to produce mixed breed offspring on his jihad to obliterate the whites he hates so much.

JTesla

December 7th, 2010
5:58 pm

Way to represent Motocross Survivor. You provide true insight into the very line of thinking that motivated the History Channel.

Brad Quinlin

December 7th, 2010
6:16 pm

In 1861 the vote in Georgia to leave the union was 56,000 and change, with 51,000 and change against leaving. Two counties in Georgia would not sign to leave the Union because they felt it was wrong. Motocross Survivor, You may have had a Blue Belly in your family as 1700 Georgians fought for the North. It is sad you live your life with such hatred. There is so much good to find in people and at this time of year we should find good in all.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
6:26 pm

@Brad
Who’s hating anybody? You watch too much TV. Come up with a little original thought every now and then, little buddy. Are you claiming that blacks don’t love cell phones? Don’t say muhfuh every other word? BTW, I had have no Yankees in my family tree. My mother’s family was in GA for as far back as I can trace (1840 census). My father’s granddad came to America from Scotland in the late 1800s and married a Cherokee woman. My granddad was half Cherokee.

JTesla

December 7th, 2010
6:31 pm

“doing his part to produce mixed breed offspring”

and

“My granddad was half Cherokee”

CLASSIC!

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
6:47 pm

@Jtesla
CLASSIC what? I’m not pulling for the extermination of the European-American fabric on which the late great USA was built, like you and your ilk. My great granddad married a NATIVE AMERICAN, which is far from the low latitude flotsam drifting in and eating away at the country today. The blacks are something else altogether. What do you see when you watch local Atlanta news every day, nitwit? Everything they touch turns to crap.

Brad Quinlin

December 7th, 2010
6:50 pm

Motorcross Buddy, I spend little time watching TV, I spend all my time doing research and working in archives honoring the men and women who have fought and died for your freedom to cut every one else for their views, You have no clue who I am, or what I do. By the way I don’t hide behind a false name. I have spent years on research for families who are looking for the burial sites of their loved ones, who died in service of their country. In 9 years I have ID 43 unknown grave in the Marietta National Cemetery, Thats what I do buddy.By the way 1700 Georgians fought for the union.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
7:06 pm

@Brad I don’t “cut” anyone for their views. But when I hear bullsheeeet coming out, I’ll call you on it. I hate to inform you of it little buddy, but this country that you claim to cherish so much will be unrecognizable in 50 years. You seem to defend the people who are pulling for it. Early signs of corrupting the Constitution are already beginning to show also. And this alleged 1700 Georgians you keep harping on means nothing to me. If so, they were probably Northern transplants. No big mystery there. There were also blacks who fought for the Confederacy, and not by force. A lot of slaves had better lives before 1865 than AFTER, when they were supposedly set free by Northern bigots. Ever read Lincoln’s famous spiel on African-Americans?

JTesla

December 7th, 2010
7:16 pm

Hey Motocross “like you and your ilk” you have no idea what I am.

However, being descended as I am from nothing but Northern Europeans, unlike you, I find your hypocrisy to be very humorous. You try to change the definition of what “your ilk” would call a “mixed breed” just to suit your own needs. Trust me, “your ilk” has just as low of opinion regarding “mixed breed” Indians as you do of other “mixed breeds”. Of course, that seems to be a pattern with you, trying to change things to fit your own limited world view. Take it from a pure breed WASP, lay off the race stuff because in the end the concept of race is really just a myth.

Brad Quinlin

December 7th, 2010
7:21 pm

Man get out of your dream world, read what I said I did not mention the government I talked about the brave men and women who died, gave us their lives, read what I wrote not what you want to spit out of you brain. The men and women who died. That is what I defend. I did not say anything about the government. But you brought it up lets go down that road. I agree I have had many WWII veterans say to me that before thay die the country they fought for will not be here. The government is to much in our lives and we need more freedom. I stand and will always defend the gift given to me of the lives of the brave men and women who died for me to live the great life I live. I see people everyday let their dog crap on the monuments and graves of men and women who died for our freedom. I see people let their children play on monuments dedicated to men and women who gave us their lives. How can we have freedom if we have people who pay no attention but to their own needs and repsect no one else. That is the key they respect no one else.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
7:37 pm

@Jtesla The last nine words of your post above is really all you need to write to explain yourself. It is the mantra of your ilk, and hilariously illustrates a profound disregard for self-embarrassment. Race became a “myth” about the same time that homosexuality stopped being a mental disorder, only a few years ago. Politics makes poor science, and it shows. Drastic differences in physical features (and other parameters) amongst the races are completely glossed over by you fools. Race-specific diseases and medical conditions don’t register with you either of course. The fact that there are different ranges of “normal” for certain substances in the blood according to race means nothing to you clowns. One is creatinine. It is a byproduct of muscle breakdown, and is naturally higher in blacks because blacks naturally have more muscle mass than Caucasoids. There are many others but I’m sure I’ve lost you by now, Moonbeam. But wait, since there is no such thing as race, why aren’t you out banging the drums for getting rid of RACE-based programs, handouts, and quotas? Huh? Silly fools. You came up short in the dendrite lottery.

Motocross Survivor

December 7th, 2010
7:47 pm

Jtesla, I am also not very impressed with your claims of being full-blooded WASP. It is not that unusual for a WASP to be against his/her own ethnicity. There are any number of explanations for the aversion to their own group: bad family growing up; never popular with peers, or even being a social outcast, etc…