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First interview with NPR CEO Vivian Schiller on Juan Williams firing

20090302_schiller_33Call me lucky. I had a pre-scheduled interview this morning with NPR CEO Vivian Schiller this morning before her speech at the Atlanta Press Club Newsmakers luncheon at the 191 Club in downtown Atlanta.

So lo and behold, the entire Juan Williams firing blew up the past 24 hours. I happen to be the first person to talk to her about it. She basically said he was on NPR as a news analyst and wasn’t supposed to express opinions, something he had done time and time again on Fox News. This was just the final straw. Commentators, in contrast, are specifically called that on NPR and are supposed to be opinionated.

She said this has nothing to do with Fox News or his particular views of Muslims. She is also sorry NPR did this while most public radio stations (including WABE-FM) are in the middle of their fall pledge drives.

After the luncheon, John Weatherford, senior chief operating officer at WABE-FM, acknowledged the Williams flap has been a “distraction” for the pledge drive, and he has gotten many emails and calls from WABE listeners who won’t give money because of it. He also said today is the matching day for Atlanta Community Food Bank and he hopes it doesn’t hurt them.

[Williams himself spoke about the situation on Fox News today and said he couldn't believe he was let go without even a face-to-face conversation. He was terminated by phone.]

UPDATE@ 5:25 p.m. The Los Angeles Times reports that Fox has signed Williams to a new three-year contract worth nearly $2 million.

Here is part of the Q&A:

Q: Okay. What happened?

A: Let’s state a couple of facts. Juan is not an employee of NPR. He’s an independent contractor. He’s not NPR staff. He’s an NPR analyst. We have a contract with him for analyst opinions to provide news analysis. He is not a columnist or commentator. He also has an on-going relationship with Fox News. Mara Liasson is also on Fox News and is a full-time staffer. We accept that’s a whole other issue. However, we expect our journalists, whether they are news analysts or reporters to behave like journalists.

Q: So did Juan really get fired over just those Muslim comments? [He said he was uncomfortable with Muslims dressed in traditional garb on airplanes during a Fox News telecast yesterday.]

A: There have been several instances over the last couple of years where we have felt Juan has stepped over the line. He famously said last year something about Michelle Obama and Stokely Carmichael. [The quote on Fox News early last year: "Michelle Obama, you know, she's got this Stokely Carmichael in a designer dress thing going" and that she'll be an "albatross" for President Obama.]. This isn’t a case of one strike and you’re out.

Q: So this is obviously not an isolated incident.

A: There’s so much misinformation on the blogosphere, it’s nuts. This has been an on-going issue. [Here's NPR's ombudsman's piece on him last year after the Obama comment.] When he does that, when anybody does that, it undermines their credibility as a journalist or in Juan’s case, a news analyst for NPR. Those two things cannot go together.

Q: Have you done this before with other analysts or reporters?

A: It’s impossible to answer that. Every circumstance is different and would create false parallels.

Q: As you mentioned, Mara Liasson appears on Fox News. Is there an issue with Fox News?

A: No. She behaves on Fox as a journalists.  I have no issues with anything she has said on Fox. This is not about Fox News. It’s not about a political agenda. This is not about even validating or invalidating [Williams'] feelings.

Q: Mike Huckabee is now saying NPR has discredited itself and should have federal funding revoked.

A: Yes, I heard that. This has become a political issue.  My God, I’m shocked!

Q: Could NPR live without federal funding?

A: Let’s go on a sidebar. There’s a misperception about federal funding and public radio. There’s the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. They receive $90 million a year and a vast majority goes to member public radio stations. Those stations pull in more than $1 billion collectively a year. It’s significant and important but not even close to the lion’s share of revenues for public radio. NPR gets no allocation from CPB. Zero. We are a private 501(c)3. We’ve had journalists call up and ask what department of the government we report to.  That’s laughable. Have you listened to our shows? We do apply for competitive grants from  the likes of the Ford Foundation and the Knight Foundation. As a result, some money from CPB does come to us when we win grants. Depending on the year, it represents just one to three percent of our total budget.

Q: What is your annual budget?

A: $160 million a year from station fees and dues, corporate underwriting, philanthropic contributions from individuals and corporation and  earned income and earnings from our endowment.

Q: How healthy are you?

A: We had some issues the last couple of years and went into deficits. But we’ve regrouped and we’re back on track.

During the luncheon, she repeated much of what she told me.

“We are for civil liberties,” she said. “If you want to be a political activist, you may not also be a reporter or news analyst for NPR.”

Schiller also said it’s “sophomoric”  to deride objectivity as a lie of omission, that hiding a journalists’ biases is a bad thing: “Yes, we are humans. We have opinions. None of us are impartial, that objectivity and absolute truth as concepts are unattainable. It does not follow that providing the most objective and most impartial work possible is not a worthy goal for professional journalists.”

She continues: “This is where the Juan Williams story enters. We have checks and balances to serve that goal. That’s why we have editors. We have an ombudsman and corrections. It’s why we let readers comment on stories. It’s why we run opinions and commentaries and label them as such. Commentaries are different from news analysis. It’s certainly why we practice journalism and prohibit journalists from certain activities, not just to protect the appearance of objectivity… it’s to protect the ideal of fair-minded journalism… People have strong opinions and professional journalists have developed procedures and standards and practices to counter them. It’s to draw a fine line between reporter and commentary and punditry.”

On a brighter note, she also noted that NPR public radio stations have seen their audience grow 60 percent over the past decade to 34 million people and that doesn’t include users who access NPR shows via mobile devices, the Web and podcasting. She is also proud that NPR has expanded its coverage in international news, the arts and sciences and other topics that have been reduced in other media.

“Our goal is simple,” Schiller told more the luncheon audience. “Deliver more news and information to more people in more ways.”

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524 comments Add your comment

Charles Stevens

October 21st, 2010
12:36 pm

It is amazing when she said that if behave when you go on other networks it is ok. Who does she think she is talking to? This is still America and if you don’t like the way some muslims dress then NPR should be pulled from the airways and the funding with it

Karen

October 21st, 2010
12:36 pm

Troubled by this. Couple this sort of thing with Anderson Cooper’s report about how candidates are refusing to be interviewed or held accountable by media, and we all ought to be troubled. Very troubled.

jeffv

October 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

I love it, the most liberal media outlet carrying out the most obvious act of censorship ever…and by the way, Juan was right!

BRian

October 21st, 2010
12:45 pm

NPR has daily anti Catholic stories on…..and I don’t recall the catholic religion stoning women or crashing planes into our buildings…

But then they fire Juan for stating a fact.

Take funding away from NPR.

Sue

October 21st, 2010
12:47 pm

I believe NPR was wrong in firing Juan. Since when are we not allowed to say anything about the Muslims that is negative without getting into trouble. Remember, freedom of religion AND speech. I could say something negative about Christians without getting into trouble. I’m not sure about the Jewish religion. I’m sure they wouldn’t like it, but don’t believe they would try to kill me.

Tony

October 21st, 2010
12:49 pm

Charles Stephens,

Let me be the first to say, “Huh?” I don’t think anyone understands what you were attempting to communicate there.

I found Ms. Schiller’s answers to be both thoughtful and straight-forward. Juan Williams is free to speak his mind, but must bear the consequences of his actions. There is a difference between what one can say personally and what one can say professionally — and this is especially true of people who work in media.

God, I miss Daniel Schorr.

Atlanta 1

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

She came across arrogant and slightly defensive. She fits the bill of a Liberal Elitest, so no one should be surprised with her answers.

Jen

October 21st, 2010
12:51 pm

“He’s an NPR analyst. We have a contract with him for analyst opinions to provide news analysis.”

He provided just that, his OPINION, and NOT even on your show.

NPR is now the new FOX of the liberal wing.

Geko

October 21st, 2010
12:51 pm

they were looking for an excuse. his comments are not offensive and NPR will only be a niche station as long as they only promote one thought process.

T-Bone

October 21st, 2010
12:51 pm

Great interview, Rodney. Hope you’ll be updating it later with more after the luncheon.

I’m glad Ms. Schiller cleared up the bit about federal funding. I’d also encourage folks who have convinced that NPR is a liberal, leftist mouthpiece for socialism to try listening to it. NPR’s reporting is top quality, and i always end up learning something when I listen. WABE’s local coverage is great too. If you’re looking for a bias, I think you’ll find it somewhere down the middle of the road.

I liked Juan Williams when he used to host Talk of the Nation on NPR. He’s certainly entitled to his opinions on Michelle Obama and Muslim plane passengers. But I think he was speaking outside his role as a news analyst when he shared those opinions in public. It’s hard to take any of his future analysis on Muslims in America seriously when he’s told you he has a prejudiced opinion of them. I don’t blame NPR for letting him go.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

Another case of freedom of the speech only if you are saying what we want you to say. Juan Williams was the least biased voice of NPR. The NPR has lost whatever credibility they had with me. They man says what his feelings, as an individual, are in a circumstance is fired for it. I think it would be safe to say that 90% of the flying public share his feelings to a certain degree. Have we become so politically correct in the media that we cannot express of unease in certain circumstances. Even though I am white, can I not be uncomfortable if I see people in KKK regalia, or does that not violate their correct thinking policies.

Steven

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

Last week I road on a plane and the person sitting next to me (woman) had on the Muslim garb. I too was nervous, thinking to myself, ‘what does she have under all that black’. Does she have a bomb?! So why is NPR being such a jack ass in its dealing with Mr Williams. Oh come on we protect every other religion in this country but Cristianity.

John Galt

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

I’m not a big Juan Williams fan but this is PC run amok. Jeffv got it right- censorship from the most liberal media outlet, who is so proud of its tolerance.

The new Congress should pull NPR’s public funding- in today’s saturated media world, there is no reason for tax dollars to keep this outlet alive. If listeners want NPR, they can fund it. If it is not viable, shut it down.

marc

October 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

wow…NPR looks silly….Juan can”t say what’s on his mind??….my advice to everyone?.say exactly what you think..and don”t apologize for it.

Jake

October 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

I will NEVER listen to NPR again… Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, he was honest with his feelings. NPR is showing their true colors, LEFT SOCIALIST face. It’s a sad day for journalism that the one guy who has actually had a good relationship with both the left & right.
Welcome to the free press Juan.

keith weir

October 21st, 2010
12:55 pm

Juan Williams told the truth about his feelings and for the truth he gets fired. to me that means we can’t trust any of your news.
Its a sad day when we we can’t believe a program paid for by the people.

Renea

October 21st, 2010
12:55 pm

Wow, just WOW! This is going to be good. My support is behind JUAN for saying what most Americans have to keep to themselves. I hope political correctness takes a good bashlash from this.

Sopwith Camel

October 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

Jeffv, you are correct. What a farce of humanity Vivian Schiller is.

Renea

October 21st, 2010
12:57 pm

“my advice to everyone?.say exactly what you think..and don”t apologize for it.”

yeah marc! :)

Teacher Reader

October 21st, 2010
12:58 pm

Just called NPR radio to get my donation returned for their fall pledge drive. Juan Williams did not say anything that I myself think. He is the least liberal of the NPR reporters. A good reporter can have his opinions and put them aside when reporting facts. The current liberal media is unable to that. Their beliefs and what they report mesh and blur together.

jack Tourtillotte

October 21st, 2010
1:00 pm

It is disapointing that NPR has taken this position and it flies in the face of what NPR is supposed to stand for, open honest sharing of opinion and appears as long as one shares the opinion of NPR executives they are fine and when the do not they are out. Sad indeed!!

M. Johnson

October 21st, 2010
1:01 pm

Go Rodney! Great timing and great interview!!!

For all those who want to cut NPR’s federal funding, perhaps you missed Schiller’s response: NPR has a $160 million annual budget; possible grants from CPB represent 1-3% of the total budget.

Peter Riola

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

I was a mesmber of MPR for 20-25 years. I left about ten years ago, because of the anti-Bush talk. Their interviewers, even when attempting to ask a question, showed sarcasm in the tone of the voice. Last year, I returned to MPR. Their tones where more accceptable, but it is still clear they have an agenda. Now the Juan williams thing. Their bias always shows, but today they have taken it to a new level. And right in the middle of pledge week, when they are claiming to be the only objective game in town.

Samuel Robert Dunn

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

Vivian Schiller’s got a tough sell defending the indefensible. NPR’s firing of Juan Williams is REALLY bad for NPR fundraising. Will George Soros make up the shortfall?

Brett

October 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

Reading some of these comments I wonder if most of these people even read the article.

” NPR gets no allocation from CPB. Zero. We are a private 501(c)3. We’ve had journalists call up and ask what department of the government we report to. That’s laughable. Have you listened to our shows? We do apply for competitive grants from the likes of the Ford Foundation and the Knight Foundation. As a result, some money from CPB does come to us when we win grants. Depending on the year, it represents just one to three percent of our total budget.”

People are just here to espouse their preconceived notions.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

Brett, so what if their Federal funding is just a drop in the bucket for their budget. I want my portion of the drop in the bucket back.

Harry Chambers

October 21st, 2010
1:10 pm

Sorry to see Juan go – he was a good unbiased news analyst. I guessed he failed to live up to the federally funded liberal NPR propagandist mindset. NPR does not deserve federal funding when they disagree with what the majority of Americans believe and therefore fire the messenger. Juan’s comments on Muslims was accurate. I will never listen to NPR again since you are biased towards liberalism. Ms. Schiller needs to get a life.

Scott James

October 21st, 2010
1:11 pm

Punishment and censorship of a NPR “analyst” as a result of him sharing his personal opinion on a different media venue…mmmmmm. Isnt it called National PUBLIC Radio? This is in theory the “peoples” radio forum, yet Ms. Schiller feels it fit to place restrictions along with punitive actions on those who have an opinion-personal or otherwise-that may not be so politically correct. Well as those of us that are wise enough to foresee, the end is near for these close minded irresponsible idealists.
I have already begun an anti donor movement in NYC where WNYC is one of the NPR stations in this area and are coincidentially having a donor drive. Please spread the same where you live and let us flex our muscles where they count–in the pocket book. Help put a financial choke hold onNPR and perhaps Ms. Schilling will be sent packing as it has become painfully obvious she is in the wrong profession and position of authority. Ms. Schilling should be employeed by maybe George Soros who I wouldny be suprised if one of his tentacle organizations had a hand in this disgraceful event somehow anyway. God Bless America and America exceptionaliam!!!!

Lauren

October 21st, 2010
1:11 pm

What is your annual budget? A: $160 million a year from station fees and dues, corporate underwriting, philanthropic contributions from individuals and corporation and earned income and earnings from our endowment.

Q: How healthy are you? A: We had some issues the last couple of years and went into deficits. But we’ve regrouped and we’re back on track.
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Take note of the information Schiller has so graciously given us and react accordingly. Power of the majority should speak loud and clear. My quess is things won’t look so “healthy” for NPR in the future.

simplythetruth

October 21st, 2010
1:12 pm

The fact that NPR fired Juan Williams, for stating his own personal fear, proves that liberals and progressives don’t practice what they preach. They don’t tolerate other people’s opinions and when left to their own baser instincts, they feed on themselves. Any taxpayer funding of NPR should be pulled ASAP. Shiller is nothing more than a hack for the democRATS.

Tracer

October 21st, 2010
1:13 pm

I, for one, will conitnue to listen to NPR for one simple reason. They expect me to pay them for it in the form of membership dues. As long as they continue to blast their program electrons into my living space without my permission I will listen to or ignore their product at my leisure. By the way, I rarely listen to their news. It reaks of leftist elitism.

Conscious One

October 21st, 2010
1:14 pm

I met Juan Williams about 17 years ago as a young 30 something black female business student at a very prestigious university. Mr. Williams was part of program the school hosted on civil rights. I met Mr. Williams after the program and explained that I was a student. He told me that he was sorry that I could not have gone to school earlier, because being a 33 year old business student , I was beyond my prime to expect a good outcome. His comment was so irrelevant and deflating. My respect for him declined greatly.

I think that he is entitled to his opinions, but if you perform as a journalist, then one is held to professional journalism standards and I think with that in mind that his Muslim comments are unprofessional and help stoke the flames of anti-Muslim sentiment in the country. Some very bad people who claim to act as Muslims acted destructively on 9-1-1; but that dastardly act by those few does not represent all people who embrace Islam. Any more so than the KKK using the Christian cross to terrorize others that they do not like represents all Christians.

NPR was right to cut its losses and move on.

RGB

October 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

Wikipedia says this about NPR’s funding:

“Public funding accounts for 16% of the average member station’s revenue, with 10% of this coming in the form of grants from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a federally funded organization.[14][15][16] Some more of that money originates from local and state governments and government-funded universities subsidizing member stations’ fees and dues to NPR.”

So, MIZ Schiller shouldn’t be concerned about the loss of government funding since she says she gets none. I believe NPR does receive government funding though the funding may make a circuitous route to get there.

There’s a reason I call it “National Communist Radio.”

At least liberals are self-identifying.

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
1:16 pm

Juan Williams has a larger following than NPR.

gail

October 21st, 2010
1:17 pm

I was listening to NPR some of the time but if a person cannot express a concern of something that makes them worry then we all need to be afraid. How will we ever know how someone stands on things if we cannot show concern,there was nothing wrong with this remark. Look up what the Germans are saying…

Keith

October 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

In a free market economy we do not need NPR or PBS. When PBS came into existance there were only 3 networks. Now there are hundreds. Defund them and be done with this.

Bracewell

October 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

I don’t always agree with Juan Williams, but I find him to be sincere and truthful. I guess those two characteristics are not acceptable at NPR. Cut their funding; let them live off the Soro’s money.

Roy

October 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

I disagree with some of NPR shows therefore I will fire them and withdraw my funding. Seems that is the way they want it.

Carol Campbell

October 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

NPR shame on you! Juan Williams comment showed no anti-Muslim bias. I happen to agree with his comments. I hope the Muslim organization that prompted this outrageous firing becomes very generous with you during your pledge drives. Vivian Schiller is the one who should be looking for a new job! I think she just sank NPR.

Jay

October 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

NPR should have given Williams the opportunity to apologize – or not. Firing him was a radical and unfortunate move by an otherwise quality organization. A political moderate, I did observe NPR’s leaning way to the left prior to Mr. Obama’s “historic” election. (NPR announcers love to use that word in conjunction with just about everything Obama does – or has done. Elena Kagen, health care reform, blah, blah. All “historic.” Maybe they can use it in regard to his “historic defeat” in 2012.)

RickZ

October 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

Ask that scrunt of a CEO about that Teabagging video they produced — and defended. No one was fired because of that, and the video was truly offensive. Calling regular, everyday Americans seeking redress from their Government (you know, one of those inconvenient Constitutional rights) a slang sexual term shows how shallow and lame that scrunt’s arguments are. If she had any class, she’d resign, but I won’t hold my breath.

Time for the next Congress, under some sane and fiscally responsible Republicans, to pull all funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Every last dime. Time for PBS and NPR to sink or swim on their own as they are so obviously partisan lacks of the lefty persuasion. This country should never have a publicly-funded ‘national’ news source in the first place. Another idiotic idea from Lyndon Johnson, right alongside The Great Society.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/npr-teabag-videos-are-defended-but-blaming-9-11-on-muslims-will-get-you-fired/

Eye Roll

October 21st, 2010
1:23 pm

“I think that he is entitled to his opinions, but if you perform as a journalist, then one is held to professional journalism standards and I think with that in mind that his Muslim comments are unprofessional and help stoke the flames of anti-Muslim sentiment in the country.”

O, Concious One Do you respect the journalist integrity and standards to likes of Cynthia Tucker?

drwitchdoctor

October 21st, 2010
1:23 pm

Sorry Juan, George Soros gave us $1.8 million on Monday and said you had to go.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/business/media/18npr.html?_r=1

NPR=Narrow Minded

October 21st, 2010
1:24 pm

After about a decade or more of not listening to NPR after its blackballing of Steven Emerson and his “anti Muslim views” (of course, he was right), I recently began listening to WCLK (I like jazz). Should have realized that NPR would continue its PC run amuck/narrow mindedness/pro Muslim attitudes. Now I’ll just have to listen for the jazz and forget the contributions. Before that it was the non-stop love affair with Mumia Abu-Jamal, etc.

They have a write to fire Mr. Williams for his comments. As he can live with the consequences of his actions, NPR can as well. Just don’t contribute any money to them if you don’t like the platform they are pushing.

Robert

October 21st, 2010
1:26 pm

Juan Williams was fired from NPR for his opinion on Muslims and his perceptions of people who committ terroism. Ever since the American People elected President Obama there seems to be a rise in other terroist groups which are claiming to be Christians such as the home grown terroist group known as the “tea party” who uses the same weapons of choice as the “taliban” which are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality. I wonder if Juan Williams had been fired if he said the same thing about the home grown terroist known as the “tea party”? Whenever I see these “tea party” extremist, mostly white people (klan, skin heads, etc.), I feel uneasy and watch them very closely. We have a double standard regarding who we label as terroist. The American People are sick and tired of ALL terroist groups whether they are Muslims, Christians or Jews.

Not Easily Fooled

October 21st, 2010
1:27 pm

Great Job Rodney,

Q: Have you done this before with other analysts or reporters?

A: It’s impossible to answer that. Every circumstance is different and would create false parallels.

Sorry, Viv, it’s easy to answer that Nina Totenberg didn’t get herself in any trouble at all for wishing AIDS on Jesse Helms. Bill Moyers can compare the GOP to the Taliban without consequence.

The difference, of course, is Juan is Black, and not susposed to leave the plantation.

NPR is unworthy of public support and has been for a lon time.

Selective clips

October 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

What is truly sad is how Ms. Schiller and the NPR executives totally missed Juan Williams point! If they had listened to his entire comments they would have seen a totally different picture. Williams point was that all of us have to push past that initial fear or nervousness that we feel when we see a Muslim on a plane and realize that not all Muslims want to kill us!!! He was trying to chastise O’ Reilly for painting too broad of a picture of Muslims on his View appearance. We have no hope of any honest dialogue in this country because crazies on the left and right jump on clips of what someone says instead of reading and understanding the total context. NPR had been looking for a reason to release Williams for awhile after he dared criticize the First Lady and this gave them cover. The funny thing is how NPR types love to make fun of Faux News and don’t even realize what true bias looks like!!!

Censor

October 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

“I know two types of law because I know two types of men, those who are with us and those who are against us.”–Hermann Goering

“You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.” –GW Bush

Nuff Said

AppealToReason

October 21st, 2010
1:30 pm

Juan Williams’ comments were inappropriate. They feed the hysteria about Muslims stoked by Fox News. I would not want any one in my family to wear a veil- but if some prefer to that is their RIGHT. Remember this is the USA. When has a head scarf been a weapon?

The constitution of the USA, with its amendments, is a document that we should respect- especially now that Europe also seems to be on an anti-Muslim, anti-Roma binge. Let us not make the Muslims the new Jews of the world. I

Fox News is adept at bringing on minorities such as Juan Williams, Michele Malkin, Dinesh Desouza and others, who appear to align themselves with extremists. Do they have a yearning to have been born in a paler skin? Leading your life as a “wannabe” must be painful, sad and shameful.

NPR was RIGHT.

John

October 21st, 2010
1:35 pm

What is wrong here?
Is Cynthia Tucker running NPR?

Vivian Schiller

October 21st, 2010
1:38 pm

“A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator’s family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3) organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization.” – IRS Website

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123297,00.html

Cui bono? – This is the question we must ask ourselves…

Ed

October 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

National Proletariat Radio and the Peoples Broadcasting System should not receive one more dollar of the tax payers money!

alohavampire

October 21st, 2010
1:41 pm

NPR should hire Mel Gibson to do political commentary

simplythetruth

October 21st, 2010
1:41 pm

ApealToReason: Spoken like a true racist. Shame on you.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
1:45 pm

Great interview Rodney! Beautiful.

“He’s an NPR analyst” oh I didn’t realize that an NPR Analyst was not allowed to have opinions. My bad. Of course this wasn’t his first strike, but his other strikes were him, yet again, having an opinion on a topic and, oh I don’t know him trying to analyze the news. See that’s what I thought an analyst would do, but again I was wrong.

JemalKnows

October 21st, 2010
1:45 pm

Great interview. I like how you cut straight through to the real issue at NPR.
~JemalKnows

Christopher

October 21st, 2010
1:46 pm

Amazing…Muslims murdered Americans…on 9/11….They want world domination….They have since the 8th centuary…NPR….is do “Liberal Left”….they were forced to do something….Vivian Shriller…is a very weak spined…Ceo….She should be fired for being a really Politically…..correct…Freedom of speech….Bitch

George Soros

October 21st, 2010
1:47 pm

I am paying $1.8 million for 100 “Enterprise Journalists” at NPR. Coincidence?

I am also financing a new investigative wing of propagandists for the Huffington Post.

Glenn Beck, Fox News and all Conservatives should be shut up or sent to one of my gulags.

USAF Retired

October 21st, 2010
1:48 pm

I love classical music…but NPR has received its last dime from me….and I will restrict my classical music consumption to my own recording collection. I am not a huge Juan Williams fan, but the man spoke an honest opinion that most Americans can identify with….It is a scandal that NPR receives even a nickel from tax payers much less business and personal contributors. Enough of NPR….time to move on.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
1:49 pm

Robert, could you throw a little more hyperbole into your rant about the Tea Party. I am sorry but even the mainstream media has been unable to produce any evidence of a rage/mob mentality within the Tea Party. I don’t believe pointing out a strong belief in less government and being fiscally responsible is stirring up hate and fear. The Democrats every year diatribe about Republicans taking away Social Security has never been critized. To compare the Tea Party to the Taliban is just another diverting tactic to get people off point, that being that our liberties are being taken away every day by political correctness. I have a right to feel as I feel, what I do not have a right to do is act in a way on that feeling that is harmful to others. George Bush was called everything but a child of God by the left wing politicians and mainstream media. Didn’t hear you complaining then.

Appeal to Reason, so anyone who does not follow the script of outrage for the supposed slights against their race are self-haters and wish to be of another race. Talk about painting with a broad brush. It is possible to be of another ethnicity and not follow the liberal point of view, unless of course you are saying that all of ethnicity other than white must follow blindly a point of view put forth by people of their own race, without free thought or deviation. What does that scenario remind you of.

George Soros

October 21st, 2010
1:50 pm

Don’t you dare boycott the companies that contribute to NPR. I am building more gulags.

Boycott the companies who contribute to NPR

October 21st, 2010
1:51 pm

YES !!!

Make Georgie squeel !

Empty Vessel

October 21st, 2010
1:51 pm

Wow, right wingers upset about NPR, what a shocker! I know that you all are addicted to AM talk radio and fox “news.” And it must really upset you to think there could be consequences for your favorite opinionators expressing the same bigoted views that you share.
I mean, this is your team and these are your views (as dictated to you by the thought police who are merely agents of billionaires like the Koch Brothers, Scaife, et. al.).
At least there’s one news organization who is unwilling to abide the Right Wing’s rules of media conduct!
Thank God and the millions of contributors for NPR!!! I am now making a nice donation!

Eye Roll

October 21st, 2010
1:51 pm

Kudos, it seems as though Vivian Schiller has excellent copy/paste & hyperlink skills. I am sure these will help her immensely in her upcoming job search. Not sure that Latin was a wise choice over Spanish – but there is always Rosetta Stone. Good luck to you Ms. Schiller! :)

Eye Roll

October 21st, 2010
1:53 pm

@ Empty Vessel

What an awesome moniker! Fits you perfectly! :)

Deirdre

October 21st, 2010
1:54 pm

Didn’t she say he was contracted to NPR as an analyst? Shouldn’t an analyst be allowed to include his own opinion on a topic? Proving once again that liberals believe in free speech as long as what you say agrees with their opinions.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
1:54 pm

Juan Williams doesn’t have “a right” to the NPR airwaves anymore than any other contractor does. He can have all the opinions on Fox or any other outlet he wants and voice them.

No one’s stopping him, he’s free to speak. But NPR has a right, and that’s the right to end his employment contract if they find his actions damaging to their brand. Same thing goes for where I work. I am free to voice my opinion anywhere, any time, and on any subject matter of my choosing. Some of those actions, including the voicing of my opinion, could be damaging to my employer’s brand. Erego, they would be within their rights to protect their brand.

steve wheaten

October 21st, 2010
1:56 pm

NPR should be defunded from our tax dollars, ASAP… Juan Williams is a good and honest man, he did nothing wrong and is being treated unfairly. NPR should be a shame of this misdeed and must be investigated. Juan, you keep your head up, America is behind you and thanks, for all your hard work. Sincerely, B Steve

Eye Roll

October 21st, 2010
1:57 pm

“Thank God and the millions of contributors for NPR!!! I am now making a nice donation!”

Thank God ? … really Empty Vessel, that’s a bit hypocritical of you isn’t it?
Remember Air America? :)

P F

October 21st, 2010
1:58 pm

I use to be a die hard listener to WABE. NPR gave me indepth news stories that other stations glossed over. But that all changed when the second middle-east wars broke out. Every half hour they would start their news by stating the how many of our servicemen were killed the day before and kept a running total. Having served in the first Gulf War, and the Corps for 8 years, I was turned off and soon left the station for good. Between 680 and 750, I get all of my news and sports for the day. Good interview, though. But it did prove that they were looking for a reason after his comment about Obama’s wife.

andy

October 21st, 2010
1:58 pm

Take her at her word and bar all Tax money to NPR. Let them compete in the Free market.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
1:59 pm

the right to free speech everyone here likes to invoke concerns government abridgement of that speech. First, NPR is not a government, whether they receive government funding or not. Secondly, no one prevented Mr. Williams’ from making his comment on Fox News. He could go there tomorrow and say what he said again, verbatim. Where is the abridgement of his right to speech?

Roach

October 21st, 2010
1:59 pm

That’s a class individual. NPR is in good hands. Fund drive going on right now for affiliate WABE-FM–show some love.

Karen

October 21st, 2010
2:00 pm

I am surprised by reading the comments how much our society has been changed by pundits parading as journalist. Juan Williams is certainly entitled to his opinion and has a right to express it as an individual. He exercised his right. He was fired from NPR because what he did as an individual is not up to journalistic ethics. If someone on the air is expressing personal opinions they are by definition not a journalist. I work for a company but I cannot express my opinions on air while being identified as an employee because I am not authorized and what I say would reflect on the company as a whole.

RealSquawk

October 21st, 2010
2:01 pm

Juan Williams comments if not taken out of context were close minded and just continue the cycle of ignorance that seems to be reigning supreme here in America. As amply demonstrated on this blog by the people who came here to simply write comments instead of reading articles.

Has anyone read any of Juan Williams materials? I have. He was unimpressive as a thinker and commentator on his observations, but that is besides the point. I listen to NPR I respect their programming because it is diverse and wide ranging and fairly objective compared to other news outlets.

If you don’t like it and you donate to NPR don’t pull your funding speak your mind. Being a contributor allows you to voice your opinion. Pulling your money just gives you some fiats.

simplythetruth

October 21st, 2010
2:01 pm

Hey Eye Roll : Notice that the Empty Vessel didn’t specify what type of donation that she would be making.

Selective clips

October 21st, 2010
2:01 pm

@ AppealtoReason and EmptyVessel. People like you are the reason why an honest discussion about sensitive issues is impossible in this country. Here’s hoping that you and your kind and the lunatics on the right do not win the day.

Mimi

October 21st, 2010
2:01 pm

Enter your comments here

Jake

October 21st, 2010
2:01 pm

NPR will never get a penny from me ever again. They pick and choose which reporters to punish, and allow their liberal voices to say anything they want. I plan on writing my “liberal” congressmen to cut their 1-3% funding, or whatever it is.

Boycott the companies who contribute to NPR

October 21st, 2010
2:02 pm

23.3% of NPRs finances come from corporate sponsors. 11.1% comes from grants. The new Congress can and most likely de-fund them of their 11%.

The public can raise hell to the sponsors just like Soros does against Fox.

Vote with your wallet America.

Make them so uncomfortable they have no choice but to change course or rot in the sun.

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Real American

October 21st, 2010
2:04 pm

The same people on here hollering about free speech don’t seem to like it when NPR practices free enterprise. Why is that?

Funding Realist

October 21st, 2010
2:04 pm

NPR gets its funding from member stations – who get a chunk of their money through CPB, i.e. public money. The local stations pay for NPR programming with public funding.
Defund it all.
The books, videos, movies, and other merchandise that they sell can fund them through licensing fees. Big Bird alone could make them rich.
Rich lefties can pay for their own news outlet. Or maybe the DNC.
I haven’t been able to stomach their left-leaning slanted stuff for years.

Jim

October 21st, 2010
2:04 pm

Memo: to all NPR associates-
You must agree with my thinking and politics otherwise pack-up get out.
Signed –
Your fearless leader,
Vivian

Mimi

October 21st, 2010
2:08 pm

Juan was simply voicing what most Americans feel when they see a Muslim…feelings are neither right nor wrong, they just are….I recently flew up North and I had two muslims sitting in front of me on the plance, I was a nervous wreck on the whole trip, especially when one of them got up to use the bathroom.. I don’t consider myself prejudice. This country is so concerned about being politically correct to people not born in this country it sometimes forgets the rights of its own citizens. Shame!!!

Free Speech Lady

October 21st, 2010
2:09 pm

That’s what happens when you express yourself; so much for freedom of speech and expression! Too bad NPR is doing this at the same time they are trying to raise money. I guess they don’t need our contributions, just our tax dollars!!!

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
2:11 pm

Free speech comes with responsibility. Williams neglected to remember that, in the purview of NPR. Good on ‘em.

Free Speecher

October 21st, 2010
2:16 pm

A huge leadership gaffe. I predict Vivian Schiller will be OUT before too long.

LRM216

October 21st, 2010
2:16 pm

Quite proud of Juan, as a matter of fact, for saying what most Americans feel when boarding any airline. He had every right to state what he did, whether as a journalist, analyst, or just plain human being.

Deirdre

October 21st, 2010
2:16 pm

Drew…are you serious? National Public Radio will not allow an opinion espoused by Juan Williams if it doesn’t reflect their own opinion. Is it really unreasonable(and I’m not talking about political correctness) for someone to worry just a little every time they see a Muslim on their flight? Is it? Are we so afraid to offend people that we can’t just say it out loud? Will Joy Behar stomp off in a huff? Can’t NPR see a valid opening for a fair discussion on this subject?

david logan

October 21st, 2010
2:20 pm

juan williams is exactly right on. i know when i get on a plane i check out the other passengers aboard and i will look twice if i see or hear people talking in arabic. after 9/11 i think most people are a little leary of muslims when traveling on acft. i think vivian schiller has her head in the wrong place.

John

October 21st, 2010
2:20 pm

The definition for liberals regarding free speech is, “you are free to speak on any issues endorsing our agenda and philosophy without wavering and we are free to fire you if you don’t abide to everything we are we espouse seen and unseen.”

Sounds like there is a little Hitler in every liberal institution.

Pete

October 21st, 2010
2:21 pm

“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life,” Jesse Jackson said several years ago, “than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

I hope Jesse Jackson never tries to get a job with NPR.

Boycott the companies who contribute to NPR

October 21st, 2010
2:27 pm

Lets just start with those who gave $500,000 or more in 2009:

Angie’s List, General Motors, Lumber Liquidators, Northwestern Mutual Foundation, Novo Nordisk, Progressive Insurance, Prudential Financial, State Farm Insurance, Cargill, Citibank, Constant Contact, Constellation Energy Group, Focus Features, iShares, Lending Tree, Lenovo, Lionsgate Entertainment Corp, NetApp, Pajamagram Compamny, Saturn, Sit4Less.com, Subaru of America, T. Rowe Price, UPS, Vanguard Group.

Demand that companies cease immediately their support for NPR or face boycotts by the American citizenry.

Bob

October 21st, 2010
2:27 pm

Typical left-wing liar. “We don’t get any federal money…it all goes to the local stations.”

Where do you get your money, then?

“Dues from the local stations.”

Mmmmmm-hm.

T Knight

October 21st, 2010
2:27 pm

I remember a NPR correspondent wishing aids on Jesse Helms or one of his grandchildren….wasn’t that over the line? Juan Williams voices an opinion and because CAIR is offended, he gets fired. Was this over the line? Yep.

NPR should have all federal funding withdrawn. If the views they support are only liberal, then the people of this country are not being treated equally. They are neglecting to include a majority of the people who pay for their media outlet to exist. Free speech does come with responsibility.

Jack Nicholson

October 21st, 2010
2:30 pm

NPR, you cant handle the truth!! Juan was dead on and u know it. Guess you’ll need to change that bit called “All things Considered” to: “All things Considered as long as we dont tick off any towel heads or public officials that give us all that tax money to put out the liberal garb out to the masses on weak, static filled, money losing, rural radio stations!”

Hey Viv, you’re kinda cute. Whatcha doin tonite?

Nadee

October 21st, 2010
2:31 pm

A lot of the right wingers on this blog and others are feigning outrage about Juan Williams being fired using the first amendmant right to free speech and other such arguments. Rather Mr. Williams should be fired is not for me to say but the righteous indignation that the good ole folks on the right is showing is palpable and indeed laughable. You people are some of the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth. Fox news (and I use the term news lightly as I possibly can) even had the nerve to say that NPR only wants to hear one side; the liberal side. Do I really need to comment on that.

Further more, I agree Juan had a right to say what he said but imagine, if he said he get nervous whenever he sees a white boy driving a ryder truck and parks it on the side of the street. Or, how bout I get nervous when catholic priest hanging around school children. I could go on and on; the point is you all would be ready to throw Juan under a bus then. Anytime someone says anything about Muslims it seems to be fair game. I repeat myself; you right wingers are nothing but HYPOCRITES!!!

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
2:36 pm

Nadee: “right wingers”? Wrong. “Anytime someone says anything about Muslims it seems to be fair game” Wrong, I disagree with what Juan said, but I do not feel that he should be fired over having an opinion. Even though that opinion differs from my own. Also, you failed to establish your “hypocrites” claim.

Gateway Pundit

October 21st, 2010
2:37 pm

[...] Ho at the Atlanta-Journal Constitution was the first reporter to interview NPR CEO Vivian Schiller on Juan Williams’ firing. She [...]

Cause I Care

October 21st, 2010
2:38 pm

Nice interview.
I’ll tell you who really scare me. MEN. 100% of the highjackers? MEN. 98% of the suicide bombers? MEN. Timothy McVeigh? A MAN. IRA bombers? 99% MEN. Murderers, rapists, robbers, batterers? 95% MEN

I get really nervous when a man, dressed in man clothes, sits next to me on a plane

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
2:40 pm

Actually, let me correct something I said that “I disagree with what Juan said” but there really wasn’t anything to disagree with. He stated his personal feelings… nothing to agree or disagree with. What people can’t confess or admit to fears or feelings?

Silly.

Smackerel

October 21st, 2010
2:40 pm

I’m going to need a stronger pair of eyeglasses to see the distinction between “analyst opinions” and “commentator opinions,” the entire distinction on which this disingenuous pack of lies rests.

They can fire him if they want to, but don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

joe

October 21st, 2010
2:45 pm

Pull all taxpayer funding of NPR now! Even if it’s not all that much, they are misusing those funds and promoting the liberal agenda by refusing to stay neutral and objective on all things political.

PotomacWill

October 21st, 2010
2:46 pm

PREJUDICE 101: Bigot? Who, me? I mean, look, you know I’m not a bigot, but when I am waiting at the bus stop, I got to tell you, if I see a bunch of teenage boys with their baseballs caps on backwards and wearing big, baggy pants hanging half way off their buttocks, I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as gangsta rappers, street people, jailbirds or something, and I get worried. I get nervous. Real nervous. Isn’t that the way everybody feels. I mean, you see them in that ghetto gear, and get nervous. Maybe, nervous enough to get a special concealed carry permit so if they make you real nervous, you can show them you won’t tolerate it!

~twitter.com/PotomacWill

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
2:48 pm

People keep saying that Juan was just stating what “most Americans” feel. I’m sorry, but where is the scientific data to show that “most” (which I would assume to mean at least 51% of the population) feel what Juan Williams described? I’ll be waiting here for some valid data, laughing at all the fear-mongering and insipid rants on this blog that will no doubt provide minutes of entertainment.

Candy

October 21st, 2010
2:49 pm

The firing of Juan, one of my favorite, is unacceptable. I will never, ever listen to NPR again. This act reminds me of Chavez in Venezuela!

Mary - Santee CA

October 21st, 2010
2:49 pm

The only problem NPR had with Juan Williams was he told the truth about his feelings and NPR does not want the TRUTH but THEIR TRUTH. If everyone would tell the truth about the their fear of flying when they see an obvious Muslim person on their flight their fear mirrors Juan’s. 9/11 changed everything and if there if momentarily feeling of fear it is understandable. However, NPR, does not want this truth to be told. This is truly political correctness run amok.

Nadee

October 21st, 2010
2:50 pm

JTesla: To your point I did not establish my contention that the right are hypocrites; well I thought that it was fairly evident. The list is long but just to sum it up from my post perspective, I’m saying had Juan said so and so made him nervous as I stated in the post, then the right would gladly go along with his firing. Fox news would have fired him also. But when it was said about Muslims then that should have been ok. You are right what he says isn’t anything to agree or disagree with; it was how he felt. My post wasn’t to take sides in that respect. Only to point out that people on the right have a lot of nerve and are even more one sided than they claim liberals to be.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
2:50 pm

Juan Williams said, and says, what nearly every American thinks and believes about Muslim extremists. Like him, we all do not care for the extremists in ANY culture or religion.
Most of all WE WILL ALL FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO KEEP OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH whether we are right, wrong, or even stupid in what we say. Forever I shall say what I think and believe…and Juan should sue NPR for this atrocious action.
Right now it’s against Muslims. Wait until this rears its ugly head to include Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and Catholics, to name a few.
NPR should be ashamed of Vivian and Vivian should be ashamed of herself.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
2:51 pm

And look at all the outraged defenders of free speech here, deciding that the public funding that helps pay for that free speech should no longer be available, further reducing free speech. So they both want and don’t want free speech? Hmmmmm.

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
2:52 pm

@ Drew Williams: nail on the head!

Jay

October 21st, 2010
2:52 pm

Williams’ xenophobic opinions don’t belong with NPR. Other than headscarfs, which not all women who believe in Islam wear, there is no such thing as Muslim attire.

The national association for the advancement of bigotry and prejudice, otherwise known as Fox News, can hire him full-time to help Brian Kilmeade advocate for a pure white race while avoiding any “terrorist fist jabs”.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
2:53 pm

freespeech,how long have you been speaking for “every American?

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
2:53 pm

I agree with Mary – Santee CA. PC has gone way too far. This is one example of the Nanny State. NO ONE tells me what to believe or say and no one ever will. NPR is wrong, wrong, wrong. Juan Williams is well respected and he made certain that he meant extremists, not all Muslims.

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
2:54 pm

@ Drew Williams, haven’t you learned that “almost all/ever American” hates Muslims? It’s unarguable fact, right up there with 1+1 = 2.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
2:55 pm

Of course; every American knows that. Take my word for it.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
2:55 pm

I speak for every American WHO AGREES that free speech is our right and no one has the right to tell anyone they are right or wrong when it is OPINION stated, Drew. You stated yours, I state mine.

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
2:56 pm

@ Drew Wiliams, your free speech offends me, therefore I am going to make dubious claims/assumptions regarding large groups of people.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
2:56 pm

Is the opinion only valid if it is shared by 51% of the population? No, the ability for a news analyst to express their feelings should be allowed even if those feelings are shared by only 5% of the population.

Palin 2012

October 21st, 2010
2:57 pm

He is better off. Let him go on Fox more. He likes to says negative things to get attention. Hell he would defend Fox News right to call him the nword. I wish a reporter on that station would call him the nword. I would love to see that benedict arnold defend that. He is a bigot. I guess he would have no problem if a white/hispanic/foreign person said the same about his skin color. What an idiot!

kevin

October 21st, 2010
2:57 pm

It’s not about whether Juan Williams is entitled to his opinion; of course, he is. It’s about the context of voicing his opinion, and other opinions in the past. It’s about his relationship as an analyst with NPR. It’s about acting like a professional.

That said, if you disagree with NPR’s firing, that is fine. However, to echo the words of a complete jacka$$ like Huckabee and call for the withdrawal of federal funds from NPR is absurd. To suggest based on this firing, that NPR has gone far left is equally absurd. NPR may appear left to the likes of Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck followers, but to the rest of us, there is nothing liberal about NPR. It’s an excellent, thorough, compelling news source. Unlike Fox, and to a lesser extent, CNN, it’s not littered with moronic, vapid agenda-pushing blowhards who drop sound bytes.

NPR is without question the single best news source this country has.

Buck Futt

October 21st, 2010
2:59 pm

Standard NPR spin. What she doesn’t tell you is that the taxpayer money from CBP is laundered through NPR stations right through to NPR itself in fees. It’s a neat trick, and one National Politically Correct Radio uses to hide its main funding source–you and me.
Too bad she didn’t have the guts to admit that she couldn’t take the heat from her Leftist friends any longer and cracked.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
2:59 pm

@Posterchild-you are wrong about ““almost all/ever American” hates Muslims?” Not all of us hate them. I do not hate them. I believe that Juan had/has the right to say what he believes just as you do, just as Drew does, just as we all do. I don’t care who funds what, we all have the right to our opinions and your opinion that all Americans hate Muslims gives me the right to say that you are wrong.

clayton fowler

October 21st, 2010
3:00 pm

That’s it I don’t care how good the music is, I’ll never give them another dime! NPR’s hypocrisy is breathtaking.

John

October 21st, 2010
3:00 pm

NPR finally showed their true colors. Even though I disagree with Mr. Williams on most issues I believe he was exhibiting the feelings most Americans have when boarding a plane and seeing passengers in full Muslim dress. I feel you are using this to get rid of Mr. Williams because of his association with FOX NEWS. I have written my representatives asking them to without all of my contributions to this Liberal organization. My tax dollars are being wasted enough without contributing to this corrupt organization.

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
3:01 pm

@freespeechrules: That’s not my opinion. I am simply restating what other people have said (that Juan Williams is just saying what most Americans think).

[...] CEO Vivian Schiller told the Atlanta Journal Constitution that Williams’ comments were the last straw for [...]

Mike Lynch

October 21st, 2010
3:03 pm

NPR has lost all credibility as far as I’m concerned. How dare they interpret someones comments as an insult to an entire culture! I will know longer listen to NPR on terrestial or land base radio. As far as Ms. Schiller is concerned she and NPR are playing into all the super left wing demands that NO opinion unless it’s theirs is work listening to. SHAME!

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:03 pm

@Posterchild-duly noted. Forgive me if I misread your post.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:05 pm

@Mike Lynch-I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Salvatore Bucca

October 21st, 2010
3:05 pm

I have listened to NPR in the past and even contributed however never again will I listen or contribute. Biased, Left Wing, No Credibility and Unbelievable. Vivian Schiller,”You are a JackAss”
Good Bye NPR have a nice time in HELL.

Jeff

October 21st, 2010
3:07 pm

Ummm….correct me if I am wrong, but the hijackers who flew the planes into the WTC were not in Muslim garb.

Deirdre

October 21st, 2010
3:07 pm

I tried to get a discussion of fear of Muslims started yesterday on another blog. Almost no one wanted to talk about it.

Is that the kind of country we live in now? Are we too afraid to express an opinion that may not be politically correct…that may be seen as bigoted? Never mind 9/11…what about the USS Cole? What about the shoe bomber? What about the guy who tried to blow up his underwear? Do we not have some reason to feel fear…discomfort?

Why can’t we talk about it?

Jen06

October 21st, 2010
3:07 pm

So wishing Jesse Helmes and his grandchildren get AIDS qualifies as “behaving like a journalist? BTW, CAIR complained.

The weblog created by Affad Shaikh, the Civil Rights Manager of CAIR-Los Angeles, presently contains a link to the official website of Anwar al-Awlaki, the imam that issued a death fatwa against Seattle newspaper cartoonist Molly Norris.

Shaikh’s weblog, Muslamics, contains the link to al-Awlaki’s site, under the section titled “‘Muslamic’ Blogs We Read.” The link is found on every one of the pages of Muslamics, including the homepage.

Additionally, NPR Announces Plan to Bolster News Coverage of State Government Nationwide
Project Supported by $1.8 Million Grant from the Open Society Foundations. Who runs the Tides foundation? George Soros, the Progressives favorite sugar daddy.

Ken

October 21st, 2010
3:08 pm

NPR is a left wing extremist organization that should loose all federal funding. Firing Juan Williams for stating an honest fear helps prove just that. I heard a couple of days ago that George Soros is contributing billions of dollars to hire more news people. Gee, I wonder what side of the political spectrum they will be on? I don’t want any of my tax dollars going toward these progressives.

Jeff

October 21st, 2010
3:08 pm

I woud wager dollars to donuts that most of the people expressing comtempt for NPR do not listen to their programs.

Jim

October 21st, 2010
3:09 pm

The line between news and personal opinion Shiller claims to uphold is pure Barbara Streisand (with underlined BS). NPR is expert at taking the most leftist opinions, cloaking them in bad science and protraying the resulting propaganda as news. If Juan attended Obama rallies in his non-NPR time or campaigned for gay rights, he would have been fine. He irritated NPR’s liberal PC management – it’s as simple as that.

Nadee

October 21st, 2010
3:09 pm

freespeechrules: Just to correct what you said in your post; Juan Williams said Muslims wearing traditional Muslim clothing period. He said nothing about extremist. Unless you consider all Muslims as extremist. Yeah that must be it.

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
3:10 pm

@ Jeff, you are my kind of people.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:10 pm

@ freedomofspeech. Juan has the right to say what he wants, but as an at-will contract employee, he also falls under the obligations set forth by his employers. In this case, it seems NPR felt Williams commentary was damaging to its brand, namely as an outlet that provides objective analysis apart from politics. Fox News, like MSNBC, makes no bones about their political leanings, so they are probably less protective. Now whether or not NPR went to far in this instance is certainly up for debate, but chilling freedom of speech is an incorrect characterization of this.

On a side note, when Shirley Sherrod was fired, I don’t recall Andrew Breitbart or any other right-winger screeching about freedoms of speech.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:11 pm

I see Jim’s got it all worked out …. in his head.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:13 pm

What are the odds that both Ellen Weiss & Vivian Schiller are both jewish? If so, this is highly unlikely, unless their is distinct nepotism going. Additionally, if accurate, what are the odds that this new entity has any notion of objectivism?

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:13 pm

@

Jeff

October 21st, 2010
3:08 pm

I think you are absolutely right.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:14 pm

“NPR is a left wing extremist organization that should loose all federal funding.”

And as money is now a form of free speech, as established by the Citizens United case, Ken shows his anger at the squelching of free speech by demanding less freedom of speech. What a joker you are.

chinese guy

October 21st, 2010
3:15 pm

“Politically correct” is the most horrible thing in this country in my opinion. It kills ideas therefore kills the freedom. Back in my country, China, there, what politically correct means is “don’t critic the government”. Mr. Xiaobo Liu, 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, is put in jail for 11 years because he is politically “incorrect”—pursuing free speech. However, there are some Chinese who have lived in the States for years still defend Chinese government on jailing Liu, saying that he is a criminal—intentionally overthrow the government. These people are comfortably talking about their opinions without worry of being put in jail because they are in USA. I don’t feel comfortable about this at all. I don’t feel comfortable to hear Muslims want to build their masque near the ground zero too. They are practicing their constitutional rights, doing whatever they want but don’t allow people to say anything they don’t like. Will there be a day that they stone someone into death in New York City? What would NPR say if it happened? Do we have right to tell them what we feel?

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:17 pm

What it does have is a addiction to politically correct, ivory tower socialism bull pulpit which is then uses to manipulate public opinion, such that the causes of the elite, such as the “elimination of poverty”, coupled with belief that by empowering the government to attack & conquer these entrenched social problems, they can actually be addressed and overcome. In reality, it just drives up everyones taxes and, since the various programs have been going on for over 4 decades, simply provides high paying government jobs to same SOB’s who graduate from Cornell, Harvard & Yale.

Yeah, Right

October 21st, 2010
3:17 pm

Daniel Schorr – may he rest in peace.

Did she not EVER listen to him? He said many vitriolic things about both President Bushes.

Despite her comments – this is ALL about Fox News.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:18 pm

*smiles at Drew* and tells Nadee that Juan did mention extremists and I have many Muslim friends so I must not be the hater you think I am. They believe deeply in their religion but do not go extremist in wanting America abolished or their religion to be the One World religion. I am a Christian with a Buddhist daughter-in-law and I love her deepy.We freely discuss our differences and usually in a group that has 2 Christians, 3 Buddhists and 5 Muslims. We all have a great time and learn from each other, at the same time stating our opinions without PC in the way and with full freedom of speech allowed. Funny how we all get along, isn’t it?

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:18 pm

All of this freedom of speech talk is hilarious. Freedom speech is not even in play here. Of course, Williams has a right to speak his mind. Likewise, Schiller has a right to fire him. At my work I have the freedom to tell my boss to “Go F*** himself”, but he also has the freedom to fire me for it.

Charlie

October 21st, 2010
3:18 pm

Free speech is indeed free, but that does not mean exercising the right has no consequences. It can, and often does, as it did here.

However, NPR needs to come up with a better party line for firing Mr. Williams, as this pablum that Ms. Schiller spoon-fed to Mr. Ho opens the door to accusations that it was politically-motivated retribution. The CEO claims he was fired because he expressed opinions on another network, and as a “news analyst” under contract with NPR, he was not allowed to do that. In her words, “He’s an NPR analyst. We have a contract with him for analyst opinions to provide news analysis.” Yet NPR’s ombudsman, in the link provided in this very article, says the following about Mr. Williams’ role at NPR in an article published in 2009: “Last spring, NPR’s management put him on contract with the title ‘news analyst’ largely to give him more latitude about what he says. He’s now paid to give his opinion, and with three decades in the news business, it is often a valuable take on today’s politics.” So which is it? Did NPR pay him to give his opinions, or was he strictly an “analyst,” however Ms. Schiller decides to interpret that term on a given day? I did not always agree with Mr. Williams’ reports, but he could be counted on to provide a well-reasoned, cogent analysis – something that is too frequently absent from much of NPR’s programming these days.

jpeditor

October 21st, 2010
3:18 pm

“However, we expect our journalists, whether they are news analysts or reporters to behave like journalists.”

HA-HA-HA-HA….

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:19 pm

Why pick Cornell, Harvard & Yale? Limbaugh didn’t go to any of ‘em and he owns the AM airwaves — no small part of “manipulating public opinion.”

joshua

October 21st, 2010
3:19 pm

This has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from All Consequences due to Speech. It just means the government cannot punish you for your speech or regulate your speech. If a private organization (like NPR or Fox News) does not like your speech, they are free to fire you, free to not do business with you. That is not a violation of the First Amendment in any way. NPR has every right to cancel Juan Williams’ contract for whatever reason. It just so happens that it makes them look like partisan, politically-correct buffoons, but NPR (and every other organization and citizen of this country) has the freedom to do make itself look foolish.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:20 pm

Political correctnesses rise in public awareness coincides with the rise of feminism, NOW and the female immersion in this countries politics. It is no surprise that the gender who attempts to hide reality with make up, fake hair color, fake breasts, shaved legs and high heels also thinks that problems in society can be solved by simply renaming them euphemistically. Juan Williams was fired over censorship, and this scum Schiller wants you to believe it is not a problem because Juan was not even an employee, just an independent contractor – more standard female manipulation and distraction.

Thankful for our servicemen

October 21st, 2010
3:20 pm

Ever wonder what our soldiers in harms way would think if they heard this NPR BS repeated on Armed Services Raido??

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:22 pm

Thankful for our Servicemen,

I am curious what you think they would think, b/c your comment seems to presume you know. My guess is that their opinions would be varied, since our soldiers are individuals.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:23 pm

@freedom* CEOs will do what CEOs do — protect the brand. Are we seeing an example of not living by one’s own book? I see it every day from those as interested in the bottom-line as they are heady ideals.

Reverie

October 21st, 2010
3:25 pm

Isn’t it interesting that the same level of journalistic integrity is not applied to reporters, at least in the morning. I hear very slanted and very biased reporting and hear ‘nary a peep. Examples are when the host uses the word “Certainly” to describe their interpretation of a piece of news. Think about it. That word indicates they are certain of the intent but feel it isn’t clear enough in the report for the listener to pick up on. Sounds like “steering the news” to me. How about the under reporting of biased liberal attacks in political reporting and the mysterious lack of desire to report on the points of contention voters feel toward public policy enacted through congress over the last year. Until NPR institutes a corporation wide standard of fairness they will never get a dime from me.

Wendy

October 21st, 2010
3:26 pm

Can’t wait to see NPR’s spin on all these comments.

frank brown

October 21st, 2010
3:28 pm

Ms. Schiller has never heard commentary by Daniel Schorr who constantly said and did things she would have fired him for. Nor has she ever herd Nina Totenberg call for the death of Jesse Helms….but what the hell she snowed the writer with his own opinions. Read what liberals at Slate are saying and even on the View….dumb ass bigoted decision by an elitist liberal snob who demands only her view of what right really is. Schorr by the way was a known liar and had enemies on all sides for being a pompous ass.

You Distort/We Deride

October 21st, 2010
3:29 pm

I spend hours upon hours upon hours in my car each week, assaulted with 24/7 right wing propaganda. The familiar whipping boy is alway the LIBERAL MEDIA, but here in Georgia, there is no such thing. If NPR is the answer to FOX, Hallelujah! In Georgia, our news is unmitigated conservative talking points. No wonder there are so few true liberals here; the brainwashing is extensive and complete.

RetroLover

October 21st, 2010
3:30 pm

There are 1.8 million reasons why Juan Williams was fired, all given by George Soros. Rodney, you should have done some due diligence on that.

There is no reason for the NPR or CPB to receive taxpayer funding. And to say JW is an “analyst” is a huge load of bull. Analysis in the political sphere will always be subjective, not objective. It is a fairy tale to expect any reporter to be w/out their own bias and prejudice. I expect to reporters to be equally tough on Left and Right. Something that is soreley lacking on NPR and the MSM. After the bums are thrown out in 12 days, can we throw out the DC Press Corps too?

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:30 pm

I think it’s worth noting that simply because NPR journalists do not pander to the right, that they are completely liberal. Just yesterday, Steve Inski (I think) laid into Jack Conway for his attack ad on Rand Paul.

US conservatism runs more to the right than anyplace else in the world. And consequently, what many of you consider liberal, the rest of the world considers the middle or even still conservative.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:31 pm

freespeech – it goes to respect for each other and a lack of an “inferiority complex” on the members in your group. Extremists in any neighborhood frequently feel it is their way or the highway, which leads to the oppression of other groups. In the US, those institutional oppression movements have slowly been elminated.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:31 pm

Kudos You Distort/ We Deride

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:32 pm

@Paddy O
I am woman, I agree with you in part.
My opinion on that is if women stayed home and raised their children as it was meant to be then the country would be far better off and the next generation to rule the USA wouldn’t be lazy game players who have no social skills. Some days I swear PMS rules more than common sense.
Now there’s something everyone will jump on, I’m certain, but I will not change my mind on it. I stayed home and raised my children, loved it, and now they have near genius I.Q.’s and are gentlemen in every way. They also state their opinions kindly, fight for their country, and are not always PC, because they are independent. Oh….Juan is independent, too. Go figure.
This discussion has gotten out of hand, hasn’t it?

Scientific Data

October 21st, 2010
3:32 pm

Drew Williams and Posterchild are the same poster

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
3:32 pm

“I have many Muslim friends so I must not be the hater…” please tell me there isn’t someone in the world that still thinks the “I have ___ friends so I must not be ____” line actually works or is even remotely a decent argument to make? Well it was stated at 3:18 p.m. so I guess I already have my answer.

And even though I’m opposed to the firing of Juan, I do have to agree that this isn’t a free speech issue. At all. NPR has the freedom to fire for whatever silly reason they choose, as we have seen done here. Very silly, more pandering than silly, but still a little silly.

Oh and “You Distort/We Deride” last I checked radios come with a dial that allows you to change the channel. If yours doesn’t have one you might want to have it looked at by a service professional.

Scientific Data

October 21st, 2010
3:34 pm

Posterchild and Drew Williams are the same poster

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
3:35 pm

@Scientific Data I’m only me; I guess it might seem astounding that there are at least two people who have similar ideas (and even crazier that those ideas might not be blatantly conservative), but it does happen.

You Distort/We Deride

October 21st, 2010
3:35 pm

JTesla

I’ve scoured the AM and FM dials. All conservative, all the time. Care to offer any Atlanta, Georgia alternatives to the right wing propaganda that opens the mornings and closes the evenings? Didn’t think so; there aren’t any.

I don’t suffer fools.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:35 pm

you distort – there are so few true liberals here because the people of Georgia are not stupid sucker, sheep like they are in NY & NJ – they refuse to give the government a lot of tax money just to watch it be squandered, while over paid middle class poverty managers enrich themselves by never quite solving the poverty problem.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:35 pm

@ Scientific Data. No, we’re not. But if it’s any consolation, you are an idiot.

Jack kaplan

October 21st, 2010
3:36 pm

Vivian you should resign this is his opinion agree or not it was a comment not damaging to anyone
What is your problem I used to listen to NPR but no more. I am certain you have lost. Many listeners. Why should you receive any funding from taxpayers when you are so bias. This mistake of yours will last for many future years. It is done. Why would he even want to work with your bias organization?

Scientific Data

October 21st, 2010
3:36 pm

NPR seems to be headed in the same direcion as Air America.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:36 pm

you distort – in every corner of GA there is an NPR station available – on the low end of the FM dial, or you just too addicted to your opinion to realize you have not thoroughly researched your gripe?

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:37 pm

freespeechrules,

2 things.

1 – this issue has absolutely nothing to do with free speech
2 – you say, “My opinion on that is if women stayed home and raised their children AS IT WAS MEANT TO BE then the country would be far better off and the next ”

According to whom or what, are women meant to stay home and raise their children. I am not a woman and find that comment offensive, not to mention unbelievably judgmental.

Scientific Data

October 21st, 2010
3:37 pm

Drew Williams (aka Posterchild) has scientifically proved he is an idiot.

Thankful for our servicemen

October 21st, 2010
3:38 pm

Kevin- I dont presume to know but I do know that there isnt time for political correctness debate when folks with towels on their heads are trying to kill them. Trust me, I get it when u argue “freedom of speech”, however, a “mission” has a clear objective and I worry that we havent sent a clear message to the front lines when all this BS goes on back home.

Joe

October 21st, 2010
3:38 pm

What a fluff interview. I particularly liked the “so this is obviously not an isolated incident” question. No bias there. NPR is a front for hard left Democrats, dressed up as “journalism”. They should certainly lose their 501(c)3 status. The arrogance is nauseating.

Steve Jobs

October 21st, 2010
3:38 pm

Termination for speaking your mind? There’s an app for that!

Posterchild

October 21st, 2010
3:39 pm

@ Scientific Data, no, seriously, I’m not Drew Williams. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:40 pm

@Joe. But the Supreme Court has clearly stated, just this year, that money is a form of speech. So by taking away their status and funding, you advocate the squelching of free speech. Now that’s irony.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
3:41 pm

“You Distort/We Deride” They have these amazing inventions now-a-days called smart phones and satellite radio. I actually live in the very liberal and very blue Portland Oregon area, my radio waves are about the same as yours with one lone station airing liberal talk radio. The rest of the airwaves, conservative dominated. They’ve succeeded at it, so you need radio apps or other radio options to listen to alternative talk/news.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:41 pm

@Posterchild. Don’t feed the trolly- especially the dullards.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
3:41 pm

freespeech – the connection with political correctioness & female liberalism is well established. I personally am happy that woman now have the option to earn a living independent of men. But, the family and children have suffered. Also, women’s position in society has also been denigrated. At one point they were the paragons of virtue. The highly successful feminist movement has made being a slut & the murder of the innocent just a choice. Finally, even highly paid females in the teacher industry pretend they are not respected and well paid – talk about the height of manipulation, and unfortunately, self dis-illusionment.

RIP NPR

October 21st, 2010
3:42 pm

It is astounding that there are at least two people who have similar ideas (and even crazier that those ideas are blatantly ignorant), but it does happen! :)

You Distort/We Deride

October 21st, 2010
3:42 pm

Paddy O

“WABE is unique in the Atlanta Market as the area’s only twenty-four hour, stereo FM broadcast outlet for fine arts programming and NPR News. WABE FM serves as a news and cultural resource for more than 2.5 million listeners.”

Don’t see any mention here of it being the local “damn the Republicans, they’re all lying, cheating, fascist haters that drove our country into the ground and now want to re-assume control” channel. Perhaps a bit more subtle than your ilk, I suppose. A news station, NOT a talk station.

John Batiste

October 21st, 2010
3:43 pm

I commend NPR for upholding journalistic excellence by firing someone who compromised his contract. Thought it seems like NPR was defending Muslims, it’s far from it. They were defending press integrity. I will be donating to NPR from now on. NPR you have found yourself a new donor.

Everyone who disagrees with NPR are driven by anti-Muslim mentality and cannot see beyond the most obvious layer. If NPR’s funding is cut or if NPR somehow discontinues to exist, it will be a great blow to American freedom and Constitution.

I’m not a Liberal or a Conservative. I am not registered with any political party.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

October 21st, 2010
3:43 pm

Somewhat misleading to say that NPR gets no money from CPB.

A large part of NPR’s revenue is dues from member stations….which receive funding from CPB. NPR is effectively laundering the money to disguise the fact that, on balance, they could not continue to exist without tax dollars going to CPB.

NPR is a cultural anachronism; by definition; with the ubiquity of broadcast media options, any worthwile programming would be able to find a commercial sponsor.

All I'm Saying Is...

October 21st, 2010
3:45 pm

Seems like most are missing the point: Juan Williams says he draws conclusions based purely on appearance. Since he doesn’t work for TSA or in Airline Security, then he has no cause to act this way—he can certainly think it all he wants but cannot let it influence his actions. Why? Because, like it or not, he is an NPR journalist and any journalist must avoid the appearance of bias as listeners/viewers cannot help but wonder whether what they report is tainted. Terminating him makes perfect sense.

Juan Wms

October 21st, 2010
3:45 pm

Posterchild and Drew Williams are trolly and bi-polar dullards

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
3:46 pm

Drew Williams: your argument against removing their funding as it is free speech is silly. First, read the interview, they would not be impacted to the point of the removal of funds negatively impacting their speech. Second, check the national deficit. Thanks Bush, Obama, Congress, and everyone else, appreciate that little gem of debt.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:47 pm

This issue is about free speech, Juan’s free speech rights, and since I have stated my religion here, Kevin, I’m certain you know where my belief that women should stay home and raise their children comes from. That it offends you is a shame. Should I have said that men should work their a$$e$ off to bring home the money, the bacon, whatever you call it and women should sit and eat chocolates all day while the kids run rampant, wear baggy pants and turned backwards caps, play games for hours and mutter about because they are socially inept, and then the women should jump up, get education and run the country? I won’t agree with that. But, that is our right to disagree. In my opinion, as soon as women got out of the kitchen and into the “men’s” world of politics the whole country went to hell in a handbasket and our next generation will make it worse. This is not a game you shut off, it’s real life.
Now, let’s get this back to Juan, Fox News, NPR, and the idiocy that he was fired for having an opinion and his boss didn’t like it.

Mj

October 21st, 2010
3:47 pm

I am with juan williams. Whenever i get on a plane and look over and see a muslim seated, i think, how best to get to this person quickly and kill them to protect my life and other innocent passengers in the event of a problem…

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:49 pm

John Batiste,

Commendable post. Thanks!

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:49 pm

@Paddy
Missed your last comment, sorry. I agree with you on that. Fully.

Bib Nick

October 21st, 2010
3:49 pm

Had it been CNBC, he would still have a job…

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
3:51 pm

freespeechrules: “Juan’s free speech rights” The first amendments free speech rights prevent the government from infringing on those rights. I may not like how NPR cooks the books regarding their funding, but they are not the government.

So what free speech rights are you talking about?

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:51 pm

@Mj
That was the whole jist of what Juan was trying to say. Thanks.

[...] NPR: Williams responded: “Look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.” | Related: George Soros’ Millions Buying ‘Political Reporters’ For NPR | CAIR Asks NPR to Address Analyst’s Remarks on Muslims | NPR Statement On The Termination Of Juan Williams’ Contract | Atlanta Journal-Constitution: First interview with NPR CEO Vivian Schiller on Juan Williams firing [...]

Rob

October 21st, 2010
3:54 pm

Is she kidding us? She insists that NPR gets no money directly from CPB, but it gets most of its money from public radio stations, and they get 5-10% of their funding from CPB. Money being fungible, it’s clear that NPR benefits from CPB’s funding of public radio.

Her insistence that Williams’ termination had nothing to do with his being on Fox News also beggars credulity. NPR executives tried to get Mara Liasson to stop appearing on Fox News, and they got Williams to have Fox News stop identifying him as an NPR analyst. Does anybody seriously believe Williams would have been terminated if he said what he did while appearing on PBS or CNN or NBC? Not a chance.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
3:54 pm

Freespeechrules,

It’s not at all about free speech. No one is suggesting that Juan Williams should not be able to speak his mind. But, it’s idiotic to think that speaking your mind, at times, does not have consequences. Like I mentioned in a prior post….All of this freedom of speech talk is hilarious. Freedom speech is not even in play here. Of course, Williams has a right to speak his mind. Likewise, Schiller has a right to fire him. At my work I have the freedom to tell my boss to “Go F*** himself”, but he also has the freedom to fire me for it.

I would say that your claim that “everything went to hell in a handbasket” when women were allowed to pursue lives not entirely consumed by raising children is incredibly weak and thoroughly unprovable.

Nadee

October 21st, 2010
3:55 pm

freespeechrules: Don’t know why I’m bothering with this but this is what Juan Williams said verbatum.

it is an honest experience that when I’m in an airport and I see people in Muslim garb who identify themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I do a double take. I have a moment of anxiety or fear given what happened on 9/11. That’s just a reality.

I don’t see the word extremist in there. Do you?

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:55 pm

Talk radio has done a pretty good job of insulating itself from criticism two ways. First, by conjuring up the imagined “left-wing-bias-of-the-lamestream-media,” they can present themselves as not a vile, crazed outlet of people who habitually vilify others to make their cases, but as a legitimate vanguard to a nefarious, calculated plot.

Secondly, by purposely blurring the lines between news and opinion, any half-truth, cunard or outright falsehood reported can be veiled as “opinion” rather than “news,” shielding themselves with claims to free speech protections, rather than getting sued on a daily basis. For this, the Internet has been a gold mine.

It’s a fine line and they’ve built an industry by walking it, supported by people who seek echoing reassurances rather than insights that might actually counter their beliefs. The fact they’re destroying the very idea that news can and should be objective? Doesn’t seem to bother them a tich.

boots

October 21st, 2010
3:55 pm

An NPR reporter (REPORTER) famously said “I hope Jesse Helms gets AIDS and dies.” Oops, no action taken over that comment in the past. I guess it is all just a big misunderstanding. BS. Rodney, nice interview with her, but you should have called her on this. Oh, and who doesn’t get nervous with a bunch of muslims on an airplane??? I know I do.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
3:56 pm

I should expand “talk radio” to “rightwing media.”

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
3:58 pm

@Kevin
“I would say that your claim that “everything went to hell in a handbasket” when women were allowed to pursue lives not entirely consumed by raising children is incredibly weak and thoroughly unprovable.”
Look at the world in the “then and now”. It has been proven.
Vivian had her right to do as she pleased, yes. That she was wrong in doing it is the opinion. Speaking your mind does have consequences, but she went too far.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:00 pm

Hey boots,

The muslims on 9/11 wore suits and not muslim garb. Newsflash, most muslims are no better or worse than most other religious folks. Plenty has been done by the christian right that is morally repugnant too.

ducksgirl

October 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

This firing is outrageous. I have been a supporter of public radio for years, but no more. Not unless they sincerely apologize to Juan Williams and ask him to come back.

This nation is polarized enough already. I thought NPR was one of the places that would give both sides of an argument, where open debate was welcome. It seems that has changed and NPR is now asking that I choose sides. Okay, I will choose sides. I am choosing those who support open and honest debate…..and that means, not NPR. After defending NPR all these years, I will turn against it. I just cannot support a network that will not allow a free exchange of opinions. It reminds me too much of a totalitarian regime. I think Vivian Schiller should offer her resignation, and someone who is level-headed and fair should take over her job.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

LOL “Look at the world in the “then and now”. It has been proven.”

Actually, things are going great “now”, much better than “then”. People are living longer, they are living more productive lives. Life has never been better, and all indications that it will continue to improve. I would have to be alive “then” with all the death, separate but equal, arranged marriages… blech. Yep, now is better… proven.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

@Nadee
See the full interview. He did say that. He also said “extremists” to validate what he meant.
@boots
Many do the same thing. We’re nervous about flying with them, but we must accept that not all are out to kill us and give them the benefit of the doubt.
@Drew
lmao

AtlNewsWriter

October 21st, 2010
4:02 pm

NPR did the wrong thing by firing Juan. His opinion on his time is just that. The firing sends the wrong message to journalists and others who embrace the First Amendment.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:02 pm

Err minor typo: I would “hate” to be alive “then”

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:03 pm

freespeechrules,

Do you realize that many things, aside from women experience the workplace, have taken place over this vague period of time you describe? How can you specify “women going to work” as the sole casual factor in creating the current “bad” world. That’s patently absurd. I would say that people of religious faith have far more to do with mucking things up than working moms.

Ramon

October 21st, 2010
4:03 pm

Many people have opinions. All opinionated persons should be able to express their opinion. Amazing how some persons can express indignation when someone says “you people” then we see it in print on a blog.

Perhaps this whole incident should be used as food for thought.

In other countries WOMEN are the suicide bombers. What garb should should a man use? A dress?

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:03 pm

@ freespeechrules: With me or at me?

Name (required)

October 21st, 2010
4:04 pm

I heard they fired Juan and are going to replace him with Cynthia!

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:04 pm

@JTesla
Now is NOT because women walked out of the home and their jobs as mothers. It is because we all have more common sense in what we eat, what we do, better doctors, etc. Women did not make this country great on their own, but they are the main reason our younger generations are muttering anti-social nuts. They need mom at home, not in an office and them being raised by a nanny.

Juan

October 21st, 2010
4:04 pm

I see the outcast blacksheep of the Williams family is posting. Drew, when did you get out of prison?

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:04 pm

@Drew
with you

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:05 pm

You want to get fired again, Uncle Juan?

John Birch

October 21st, 2010
4:06 pm

I have listened to NPR for 25 years. My impression is that they do have a slight liberal bias (Daniel Shorr doing the op-ed pieces?), but they are signiicantly less biased than other major outlets like “fair and balanced” (HAHAHA) Fox News or the NY Times, which has run op-ed pieces posing as news on its front page for years. They are, in my opinion, the single best souce for news since everyone else is selling opinion these days.

BW

October 21st, 2010
4:06 pm

I’m surprised that Proctor & Gamble’s share price hasn’t increased due to increased sales of Depends….I hear way too many people cowering right now…this is the greatest country on earth…act like it. Don’t allow a small minority to cause to sh!t yourselves…when it’s your time it’s your time…nothing you can do about it. This notion that someone is going to be able to protect from the randomness of life is asinine. As far as NPR…don’t turn to their channel if you don’t like it just like you don’t have to turn to AM750 during drivetime if you don’t like the programming. I love seeing the signs “Freedom isn’t free” and then break out in laughter when people think actions are free of consequences….so NPR let him go and for his troubles he’s become a larger darling to conservative cause and will make even more money now….poor **cking guy

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:07 pm

@Kevin
Isn’t it strange that when our country was built on religious beliefs we had a better country, but you seem to think that motherless children (meaning those rarely home to hug and love them) are better off now? Hmmmm
Whatever…you are wrong, in my opinion, but that’s what this is about……opinions.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:08 pm

@freespeechrules I’ve read about the current generation putting down the next generation for a span covering thousands of years. The generation before our Founding Fathers: they thought our Founding Fathers generation were worthless.

Now is better not because of one thing, but it is better despite what you think is making it bad and despite what Kevin incorrectly thinks is making it bad. Because saying “I would say that people of religious faith have far more to do with mucking things up than working moms.” is just as incorrect.

Editor In Chief

October 21st, 2010
4:09 pm

The media has done a pretty good job of insulating itself from criticism two ways. First, by proving left-wing-bias-of-the-lamestream-media, they present themselves as not a vile, crazed outlet of people who habitually vilify others to make their cases, but as a legitimate vanguard to a nefarious, calculated plot.

Secondly, by purposely blurring the lines between news and opinion, any half-truth, cunard or outright falsehood reported can be veiled as “opinion” rather than “news,” shielding themselves with claims to free speech protections, rather than getting sued on a daily basis. For this, the Internet invented by Al Gore (D) has been a gold mine.

It’s a fine line and they’ve built an industry by walking it, supported by people who seek echoing reassurances rather than insights that might actually counter their beliefs. The fact they’re destroying the very idea that news can and should be objective? Doesn’t seem to bother them a tich.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:09 pm

@BW
“….so NPR let him go and for his troubles he’s become a larger darling to conservative cause and will make even more money now….poor **cking guy”
—–yes, you have that right! I like it. I really do. LOL

JB

October 21st, 2010
4:10 pm

if the government were able to fund or de-fund NPR based on who they hire or fire, then that would be exactly what many of you claim to be against – govt control. NPR is primarily member-funded and the govt is simply expressing its interest in a not-for-profit media outlet by providing the funding that they do. if they had a say in the operations of NPR, then it would effectively be state media. think about what you’re saying people.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:11 pm

@JTesla
Thanks. Great post about me and Kevin.
We are all right in some ways, all wrong in some ways, and the opinions expressed here will make us all better in one way or another. More to consider for us.

You Distort/We Deride

October 21st, 2010
4:12 pm

I’d like to see what would happen if FOX News hired a reporter who trashed Republican presidents and Congressmen, questioned the war efforts, or decried trickle down economics, on a frequent basis.

On the other hand, their bias is so blatant, they would never hire anyone who wouldn’t spout the Republican talking points, so that would never happen.

The hypocrisy of the right is sickening.

Is this the New America ?

October 21st, 2010
4:12 pm

Welcome to the New America, where you have the right to have no rights. We might as well throw the Constitution out the window. Have you ever eaten food that was cooked by an angry person? Well, I have and it tastes nasty ! Well, this incident has left my mouth with the same after taste and it stinks.

BW

October 21st, 2010
4:15 pm

@ New America….you still think you have rights? LOL

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:15 pm

freespeechrules,

This country was not built on religion. It was built on freedom of religion and many of the founding fathers were proud atheists. Here’s a link you should check out:
http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/02/founding-fathers-atheists-freethinkers/

Want to talk about strange things. Isn’t it strange how religious beliefs have lead to more violence than all other beliefs combined. Isn’t strange how your book tells you and other christians not to judge, yet you do far more than most. Isn’t it strange that you believe your God is all good, all knowing and all powerful, but allows so much injustice in the world. Those are truly strange things.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:15 pm

@Is this the New America ?

You have a valid point.
We have gone off track of what this is truly about.

Ted Peters

October 21st, 2010
4:15 pm

Adrienne King

October 21st, 2010
4:15 pm

Who the heck does this woman think she is kidding. Every single person in the media inflicts their own opinion in every story. Juan is a fabulous news reporter and his viewpoints are enlightening. He has a gift for defusing a potentially volatile argument and giving a sensitive left winged opinion. As I become more and more right because of the joke that is politics these days, I count on Juan to keep my own rhetoric in check. He is an absolute asset to any organization he joins. NPR and their CEO should be ashamed of themselves, and personally FOX better hire him pronto. I wouldn’t mind seeing him right after Greta…. Bravo Juan for speaking your mind and not cowering to PC…. More of us should do exactly that. By the way, there is a reason why most nations are banning the Burka in Public. Whatever happened to women’s rights in this country? It’s all an amazing embarassment.

rooster

October 21st, 2010
4:19 pm

Jeff are we talking about genuine Krispy Kremes or those hockey pucks from Dunkin?

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:19 pm

@JTesla: My point wasn’t to be taken totally seriously, as I am fully, completely, and 100%-ly AGAINST money standing as a form of speech, free or otherwise. The Citizens United ruling is, on the other hand, a darling of the conservative movement. It’s the hypocrisy I’m noting, no matter how large or small the actual dollar amount.

White Boy Larry, Jr

October 21st, 2010
4:20 pm

He has the “right” to say what he wants and they have the “right” to fire his a$$ for it.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:21 pm

@Kevin
You are right that I should have said ” It was built on freedom of religion”.
The rest of your statement is muck to me.
I am not judging on purpose. I am stating my opinions and if they seem judgemental or cruel, so be it. I am not politically correct all the time and don’t wish to be.
I stand with my opinions, which I have stated as opinions. You keep yours and I’ll keep mine.
It takes more faith to be an atheist than it takes to have a religion. That much is true.
Again, let us get back to topic now. This is out of hand now. Juan and the NPR are the topic. I stand by what I said in all posts, but did not mean to bring this about face to something off topic.
My apologies to those who are staying on topic.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:22 pm

@Adrienne King

Great post. Great thinking.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:25 pm

@Editor In Chief: When you can provide me with the transcripts from NPR where George Bush was routinely called a facist, a bigot, a murderer or a tyrant, as Obama and Bill Clinton are and were in the rightwing media, then your pre-pubescent I-know-you-are-what-am-I game might make its mark. Until then, your freedom of speech is just so much blubbering. Have a nice life.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:26 pm

Juan also said “Do not judge all Muslims or any other faith by the extremists among them”.
Nadee missed that?

Not My Real Name

October 21st, 2010
4:27 pm

Dear You Distort/We Deride,

Are you on George Soros’s payroll.

I’ll bet your one of those “Enterprise Journalists/Bloggers” that just got hired at NPR thanks to his $1.8 million dollar bribe..

We see you Georgie Boy… MoveOn, Center For American Progress, Tides and the other ilk are now in the sunlight. Americans are demanding to see the donor lists.

IRS.gov website defines these organizations as:

To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization’s net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.

MediaMatters.com website:
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

The Center For American Progress website:
October 3, 2002 as the American Majority Institute [501(c)(3)] with companion lobbying group, the American Majority Fund [501(c)(4)].
Re-named: October 24, 2003 as the Center for American Progress [501(c)(3)] with companion lobbying group Center for American Progress Action Fund [501(c)(4)].
Exempt since: 2003

MoveOn according to Wikipedia:
MoveOn comprises two legal entities, each organized under a different section of U.S. tax and election laws. MoveOn.org Civic Action is a 501(c)(4) nonprofit corporation,[4][5] [6][7] and was formerly known as MoveOn.org. MoveOn Civic Action focuses on education and advocacy on national issues. MoveOn.org Political Action is a federal political action committee, and was formerly known as MoveOn PAC. It contributes to the campaigns of selected candidates across the country. MoveOn calls the legal structure of MoveOn Civic Action that of “a California nonprofit public benefit corporation” and MoveOn.org Political Action that of “a California nonprofit mutual benefit corporation,” and refers to both corporations collectively as “MoveOn”[8].

[...] him do that on the Factor for years?) That’s version one; version two is what she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution this morning before her speech, that “there have been several instances over the last couple [...]

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:29 pm

We clearly disagree. “t takes more faith to be an atheist than it takes to have a religion. That much is true.” That sounds like something a preacher would say–senseless.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
4:30 pm

All I’m Saying Is: Juan Williams did not “act” in any way. He had an internal emotion he “experienced” at the time, he did not express to anyone at the time or any way infringe on anyone else’s rights. If you wish to hold all journalists to showing no bias, close down the networks. Or do you consider Olberman unbiased?

You Distort/We Deride

October 21st, 2010
4:31 pm

Not My Real Name

I could care less about George Soros, the Democrat Party, the Republican Party, the Tea Party, or any of the other political nonsense that this side or that side seem to rely upon in order to validate their beliefs.

I believe in truth, honesty, and fair play. None of the above groups share my core beliefs. Hiding behind a nameless name and casting aspersions may make you feel exalted, but to me, you are merely one of the mindless flock who has allowed his brain to be hijacked by the brainwashing element of our society.

boots

October 21st, 2010
4:32 pm

Hey, Kevin, I don’t want to get in to an argument about the virtues of Christianity v. Islam, but it wouldn’t be much of one, I promise. Let’s just say that most of the improvements in civil rights, medicine, education and treatment of women have come through Christians. I’m not citing nations (i.e. 1930s Germany) who are called Christians or some wacko living in a cabin in Wyoming shooting it out with the FBI. I’m talking about true Christians and Christian organizations. Look to hospitals, opening society to women and the way the poor are treated. When a “christian” does something violent, true Christians condemn it. When the 9-11 high-jackers (and other Muslim terrorists) do something violent, the Muslim world either applauds, excuses it or sits quietly. At the end of the day, I would rather fly on a plane with a group of nuns than a group of bearded Muslim men. Sorry, but I bet I’m not alone. Good thing I don’t work for NPR.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:32 pm

Kevin, I do have to nit-pick on one statement:

“Isn’t it strange how religious beliefs have lead to more violence than all other beliefs combined”

You mean except for the belief that someone or some group needs more power? Religion may be the excuse, but power is the reason for the violence. Sorry, but the idea that religious beliefs have led to more wars or more violence gets thrown around as a truism, but it’s not really true. Without religion all that violence, and all the wars, they still would have occurred.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
4:33 pm

Drew William, I have not heard anyone in the supposed “right wing media” call Bill Clinton or Barack Obama a murderer or a facist or a tryant. I have heard Bill Clinton called a liar and an adulterer and I have heard Mr. Obama referred to as a liberal and unqualified, but the last I heard truth was an absolute defense. Since neither you nor I can read all the tripe, and listen to all the garbage put out in blogs, in news media and on the airwaves, how about we keep the generalizations to a minium.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:33 pm

Adrienne King,

You realize that in the same breath you advocate banning burkas and women’s rights. So, you are for women’t rights so long as the clothing choice of the women represents a religion you disagree with. Well reasoned.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:37 pm

boots: “most of the improvements in… treatment of women have come through Christians”

Interesting aside to the main topic: in most areas married Muslim woman could own their own separate property since the time before Mohammad (in other words it is an Arab tradition as it predates Islam). Women in England got the same right in 1870’s.

We’re not all that far removed from having fewer rights and fewer advances. Just saying.

Craig

October 21st, 2010
4:37 pm

Those that argue that 2% is all the government gives NPR – good, that’s 2% more that Soros has to give them! Schiller made a disparaging remark about Williams that he “[...] should have kept his feeling about Muslims between himself and “his psychiatrist or his publicist,” so accordingly she will be sued, and she should lose her job if the litmus test was created in the Williams’ case.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/10/21/130728202/npr-ceo-williams-views-of-muslims-should-stay-between-himself-and-his-psychiatrist

Karen

October 21st, 2010
4:38 pm

Vivian has decreed that you can only make fun of white men, Mormons, republicans, and tea party people. Oh, and Sarah Palin. NPR has been attacking her and her family personally without pause for 2 years.

NPR hates black men.

NoisyPiper

October 21st, 2010
4:38 pm

@JTesla:

The right wingers are hypocrites on this issue because it reflects precisely the Helen Thomas firing a few months back, and Fox News was one of the main proponents of her being fired. She was fired. Conservatives celebrated it.

Both Helen Thomas and Juan Williams made offensive statements. Both got fired for it. Conservatives only support one of those firings, and condemns the other. That is called hypocrisy.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:38 pm

JTesla,

Power is not a belief. As for the rest of your comment, I think that’s an extremely convenient, non-objective look at history.

Not My Real Name

October 21st, 2010
4:39 pm

“Casting aspersions” — What planet do you come from?

You can read right? You have a computer and the internet don’t you? There’s this thing called a search engine. Read or go warm up some milk and put on your jammies. It’s almost bedtime.

Is this the New America ?

October 21st, 2010
4:39 pm

@BW. Please forgive me but my medication has worn off. So, yes, I am under the illusion that I live in
a country that respects my GOD given rights stated in the Constitution. Are you suggesting, I should ask my doctor for a stronger dose of medication so I can snap out of it and face reality?

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
4:39 pm

You Distort/We Deride: Look, Fox news is one network. If ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, HLN and MSNBC, and yes NPR, cannot adequately counter what you say Fox is putting forth, then that’s your issue, not Fox’. While I agree that Fox does have a bias, so do all of the others, and there are many more of them out they, you are certainly adequately represented.

NJK

October 21st, 2010
4:42 pm

PUT NPR UP FOR SALE! No taxpayer funding should go to an organization who does not believe in the first amendment.

Cause I Care,
100% of the hijackers, men? How about Muslim men? They are not men of white European descent. You sound silly. We don’t want our taxpayer dollars going to this useless, needless radio station.

American Airlines Flight 11
Hijackers: Mohamed Atta (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)

American Airlines Flight 77
Hijackers: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi
Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 175
Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (United Arab Emirati), Fayez Banihammad (United Arab Emirati), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi).

United Airlines Flight 93
Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Fort Hood Shooter Nidal Malik Hasan
Shooter of two reservists in Arkansas Abdul Hakim Muhammad

And in case you were too young, Assassin of RFK Sirhan Sirhan. Barack Hussein Obama’s friend Bill Ayers dedicated his book to him. Isn’t he nice. And yes, they hated America back then too.

“An appeaser feeds the crocodiles, hoping it will eat him last.”

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:43 pm

@JTesla
You’re correct: “JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:32 pm
Kevin, I do have to nit-pick on one statement:

“Isn’t it strange how religious beliefs have lead to more violence than all other beliefs combined”

You mean except for the belief that someone or some group needs more power? Religion may be the excuse, but power is the reason for the violence. Sorry, but the idea that religious beliefs have led to more wars or more violence gets thrown around as a truism, but it’s not really true. Without religion all that violence, and all the wars, they still would have occurred.”

@Kevin
I would have to have more faith in coming from an accident of nature than that I was created on purpose. I, nor you, are mutated amoebas nor monkeys. If you believe so, you have more faith than any preacher I know. It’s plain silliness.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:43 pm

Boots,

You say, “…Christianity v. Islam, but it wouldn’t be much of one, I promise. Let’s just say that most of the improvements in civil rights, medicine, education and treatment of women have come through Christians.”

You do not have any idea what you are talking about. I have read both the Koran and the Bible as well as the history of both religions. I have an MA in philosophy and minored in religion. You sound like you’ve had a Glenn Beck enema and like most Christians, seem to know very little about their own religion or the religion of others.

David

October 21st, 2010
4:43 pm

Vivian Schiller ” Williams’ Views Should Stay Between Himself And ‘His Psychiatrist’”, that was 100% worse than anything Juan Williams said, she basically insinuated that he had a psychiatric problem, it borders on defamation. It is defamation. Yet, as a Jew, she was able to back peddle. This goes back to what Rick Sanchez, the Jews own the media and their uncle or whoever is willing to forgive them when they say something even as out of line as this.

Joe american

October 21st, 2010
4:44 pm

This firing just proves NPR is nothing more than a fringe left wing progressive organization promoting an agenda that is destroying this country. I am sick and tired of not being able to criticize Muslims or being called racist if you oppose anything Obama proposes. I will actively fight to have all taxpayer funding for NPR to be eliminated. NPR has not integrity and serves no value.

Bubba the whitebread Cracker

October 21st, 2010
4:46 pm

NPR is a Joke. A bunch of Liberal Losers. I think Muslims in garb on a airplane would scare satan himself.

Bubba the whitebread Cracker

October 21st, 2010
4:46 pm

NPR is a Joke. A bunch of Liberal Losers. I think Muslims in garb on a airplane would scare satan himself.

kenlev

October 21st, 2010
4:46 pm

The Fox News channel is a political organization and not a news channel. If you go on these stations and make dumb comments you should be held responsible. It’s not a Liberal conspiracy, Rick Sanchez was fired from CNN for making the same dumb racial comments. I will be happy when O’Reilly, Beck, and the rest of these dummies are gone for preaching hate and intolerance. You Conservatives are so quick to jump on these blog sites and say such racist and disrespectful comments about minorities. Why don’t you try that freedom of speech on the street and get your a**es kicked. A bunch for B*%ches.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:47 pm

freespeechrules,

Do you also believe that women were made from a rib, a man lived in a fish, another man built a boat and collected 2 of every animal? Yeah, that’s not silly! You could swap the stories with in the bible with children’s stories and to someone whose never read both, he/ she would not know the difference.

It’s called science. You choose to believe some pre-scientific archaic attempt at describing the world, and I choose to believe things like evidence and science. To each his own.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:47 pm

@NJK
Thank you for that information. Many do not know it. Muslims nor Christians are our only enemies.
@Is this the New America ?
lmao with you….good one

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:48 pm

@What’s Important No, we’re talking about “mainstream, Rush Limbaugh/Breitbart/Hannity stuff. You don’t recall when Limbaugh questioned on the airwaves whether or not Bill Clinton was personally involved in Vince Foster’s death? You don’t recall when Glenn Beck said Obama hates whites? You’ve forgotten when Sean Hannity claimed Obama was emulating Chairman Mao during the healthcare passage? If you can find anything even CLOSE to this on NPR, please, please, please and again, please provide it.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:51 pm

@Kevin
You’re a bit backward, aren’t you? Science is proving those things now. Or, maybe you watch a different station than most and forget that scientific shows are on that are trying to prove/disprove these things? Public Television has shown many shows/documentaries that these things are either true or cannot be disproven by science,therfore remain a mystery and can be true. And, yes, I believe it fully.

Now, again, I ask that you get off this topic and back onto Juan, Fox News, NPR, Vivian, and stop fighting the Bible with me. Neither of us will “win” and we’re taking up valuable space for great comments on this issue.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
4:52 pm

KenLev: You deride people for making racists remarks and then end your blog in such a mature way. Please tell me, do no minorities make racist remarks? Do no minorities make disrespectful comments about whites?

Larry Brown

October 21st, 2010
4:52 pm

Time for Juan to play the race card, unfortunately he has too much class for the drones at NPR. NPR CEO Vivian needs to see HER psychiatrist abour her denial issues. NPR is now nothing but old white women, was she jealous that his mustache is better than hers?

Big McLargeHuge

October 21st, 2010
4:54 pm

“Juan was simply voicing what most Americans feel when they see a Muslim…”

Who chose you to speak for “most” Americans? You certainly don’t speak for me, whoever you are.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
4:55 pm

@Drew Williams

I remember those things. Proof would be great about NPR saying anything close to it.
Yet, Vivian was still wrong, in my opinion.
How many here have forgotten that Obama is half white and not full African? Why is he going by African-American? He’s either American or he isn’t, despite his color, creed, nationality….etc.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:55 pm

@what’s important. The big questions is, what impact can a minority’s racist remarks make in a country run for the most part by white guys? It’s less the remarks and more the effect those remarks can make on an entire group of individuals.

DK

October 21st, 2010
4:56 pm

Ms Schiller is full of BS. I used to watch Fox News Sunday, as well as Special Report with Brit Hume. Mara Liasson has appeared on those shows many times and repeatedly expressed opinions. A journalists is defined as one who collects and disseminates information. Ms Schiller states that NPR expects their news analysts or reporters to behave like journalists. Going on TV and expressing opinions is not behaving like a journalist. Yet she doesn’t see Mara Liasson as violating this expectation of acting like a journalist. Both Maria and Juan are liberal and have expressed liberal opinions on many occasions with no repercussions from NPR. It is only when an opinion is voiced that doesn’t tow the liberal line does Ms Schiller see a violation of the contract. I don’t care if NPR fires a reporter for not towing the liberal line if they take no public money, but my research shows that they do, despite Ms. Schiller’s representation. NPR gets approximate 16% of its funding from the CPB. I have no problem with Fox firing someone for being too liberal as the difference between Fox and NPR is that Fox takes no public money. Let NPR live on private funds then the can hire and fire their journalists for any reason they choose (within legal bounds). Personally, I think it’s time to stop government funding of any radio or TV (except efforts like VOA or RFA that target foreign oppressed peoples). We have too much broadcasting now so government funding of such efforts is a waste of tax dollars.

Is this the New America ?

October 21st, 2010
4:56 pm

@ Noisy Piper. Your statements make it sound like this incident was “tit for tat.” Maybe everyone should just take all their marbles home and not play with each other anymore.

Mom Dukes

October 21st, 2010
4:56 pm

So let me get this straight…O’Reilly (Fox News) can openly protest the building of a mosque at Ground Zero but Williams (NPR contractor) gets fired for commenting that he is “uncomfortable with Muslims dressed in traditional garb on airplanes”. How ironic! Years ago I almost got off a plane because I saw a row of nuns praying before take off. The thoughts that entered my mind. So to Mr. Williams, I understand, nothing personal.

Things that make me uncomfortable… men in trench coats out of season, males between 15-40, standing in line at a bank, Park Atlanta, pit bulls on the loose, CVS, my water bill, religious and political zealots, someone videotaping me and it going viral…you get my drift? We live on a media diet of things that make us shudder but now we can’t even express that it make us “uncomfortable”…give me a break!

Juan Johnson

October 21st, 2010
4:56 pm

“Teacher Reader

October 21st, 2010
12:58 pm
Just called NPR radio to get my donation returned for their fall pledge drive. Juan Williams did not say anything that I myself think. He is the least liberal of the NPR reporters. A good reporter can have his opinions and put them aside when reporting facts. The current liberal media is unable to that. Their beliefs and what they report mesh and blur together.”

Not only will I donate in your place, I will also submit an employment application to FAUX News for the erstwhile Juan Williams. This trend of “saying what I want to just because” has got to stop. Where has civility gone?

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
4:58 pm

With NPR, you won’t find the proof because it’s simply not modeled on the “anything-goes-morning-zoo” format of right-wing talk.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
4:58 pm

freespeechrules,

Evolution and our having a relationship with primates is a scientific fact. Calling me backwards having “faith” in science is kind of, well…backwards! You do realize bonobo chimpanzees and human beings share 96% of our genetic makeup, right?

There is no reason to get on topic. 99% of the liberal bashers on this blog have never listened to NPR and have no earthly idea what they are talking about.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
4:58 pm

Kevin, sorry but I don’t believe that you are as objective in terms of history as you would like to think. When it comes to this topic I don’t believe that I am biased for one religion (Christianity as perhaps is presumed). For instance Islam has, when compared to Christianity, been historically far more tolerant of both Christianity and Judaism, not a typical opinion, but one I’ve argued based on history. Using that same objectivity, I then turn to the Crusades and realize that they weren’t driven by religion, but by a quest for power. A quest of power by a man in Rome, and boredom from men in Europe, which meant bad things for the predominantly Christian and Jewish towns they laid siege to. Religion was the excuse, in modern times the wars are still there, but the excuse is not used as often. Sure, power isn’t a belief system, but then you are simply narrowly construing your argument to fit your non-objective ends.

What's Important

October 21st, 2010
4:59 pm

Drew Williams: When racist remarks are condoned, whether made by the majority or the minority, they will only get louder and more divisive. My point it is not one side or the other, all suffer and that is good for no one.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:01 pm

@Mom Dukes
You’ve said it best and like it is. That should end the debate right here, but it won’t.
@Juan Johnson
Civility is still alive, it just isn’t rearing it’s head much today. Political Correctness has harmed it.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:03 pm

@What’s Important: True, but bigotry by those in charge is, in practice and in reality, more far reaching and damaging in the real world. For example, I have yet to see a photograph of a white man hanging from a tree, put their by black racists. Power makes all the difference.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:03 pm

@JTesla
Again you have said a great thing that is so true that I will actually stop remarks to Kevin altogether.
JT is ruled by his head, not his heart or anger or taking sides on anything. We should learn from that.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:07 pm

@Drew Williams
Valid point. Power is an aphrodisiac for many.

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:08 pm

@Drew Williams October 21st, 2010 4:55 pm – Absolute garbage. Racism is racism and bigotry is bigotry, no matter the source. Bigotry in the black community is having a huge impact on the improvement of race relations. The black community has hid behind your excuse for too long to excuse bigotry that is poisoning the black community. This bigotry is a major roadblock to the improvement of race relations in this country. Bigotry is not acceptable in mainstream white America anymore so get the beam out of your own eye before you attempt to remove the speck from mine.

kmb

October 21st, 2010
5:09 pm

Ms. Schiller:
Which group of people is the principal concern of the TSA at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport today?
Don’t know? Go ask your psychiatrist.

Allan Rofer

October 21st, 2010
5:09 pm

Nice spin from Vivian. She makes a false distinction between a staffer and a contractor. If anything, a contractor should have even more freedom to express opinions, so her logic is faulty. This firing is un-American.
I say we take her up on her bloviation about funding and rip the tax funds out from underneath what has become an embarrassment to the American people.

kenlev

October 21st, 2010
5:11 pm

What’s Important, I read these blogs often, and it’s usually the conservative mindset that come on here with all the racial monikers and limited tolerance that is really ignorant just like Fox News. you guys show me that your brain is not strong enough to think for itself, so you watch all this political bullsh*t on fox that makes it even worse. You blame everyone but yourself for your short comings. If you hate Blacks, Hispanics, Asian, Jews, and Muslims why don’t you do act like a man and have some real dialog and stop being a coward. These blogs are for ideas of people with a open midframe for making this world a better place, not bigots and dummies that only fan the flames of hatred.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:12 pm

@Allen Rofer
You said what many have said, but in a more distinct and compact way.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:12 pm

@DK: Hate to disagree, but that’s like saying “a hit is a hit” in baseball, when one was a single and the other a three-run homer. One definitely make a larger impact, and bigotry held by the minority while never good, makes a smaller impact than bigotry held by those who actually move the levers of institutional power. A simple review of history proves that out — as well as some photos of people hanging around in trees.

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:14 pm

BTW Drew Williams, you want to talk about who’s in power. The last time I checked, the President of the United States is black. “We’re don’t have power” doesn’t wash anymore.

kmb

October 21st, 2010
5:15 pm

I forgot to mention. Contributions to Public Radio and Television and NPR are tax deductible charity donations, another form of federal financing.

shcady

October 21st, 2010
5:16 pm

So one of the ionstances you use in terminating him was his comment about M. Obama. God fordid. How about outing the pres. and his wife for the hateful thing they have both done and said about the USA many time. They are both not worthy of the honor oof being the pres and first lady. if they had the USA so much move them the hell back to where they came from.

Dave from GT

October 21st, 2010
5:17 pm

Vivian is one arrogant b*tch!

I have never heard NPR on any station that is not affiliated with public taxpayer funding.!

Have you?

Georgia Public Radio carries NPR…… simple…… get it???

The play on university radio stations which are taxpayer subsidized and subject to freedom of speech constitutional requirements.

If she wants to pursue this direction, then the State(s) need to tell NPR to find another broadcast channel….. and stay the hell off the taxpayer subsidized radio.

I don’t like some unelected liberal b@tch trying to squelch Juan.

She should really think about firing the dowdy boring commentators that work for NPR and replace them with ones who can deliver news and commentary in a balanced real world manner.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:17 pm

Yes — now compare that fact to the total percentage of blacks in positions of power compared to that of the black American. You don’t exactly have to be a statistician to note the imbalance.

jwpegler

October 21st, 2010
5:17 pm

Given that NPR is a government agency, Williams should sue you for violating his first amendment rights.

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:18 pm

@Drew Williams. Let’s talk about today, not yesterday. I don’t see blacks hanging in trees, and when such reprehensible acts are committed today, people are prosecuted, like the James Byrd case. I can name instances of black on white hate crimes for every case you can name me that has occurred in the 21st Century.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
5:18 pm

JTesla,

Saying power-seeking is responsible for sociopathic behavior and/ or unspeakable violence is not saying anything at all–power-seeking is of course part of it. Here I will put my point another way. Religion creates more violent power seeking people than any other structure in the world. Who killed the people on 911? Religious people. Who killed the jews in Nazi Germany? A religious man. And on and on.

Charlie

October 21st, 2010
5:19 pm

Where was the outrage when Nina Totenberg said, “retributive justice” in the world the (admittedly loathsome) Jesse Helms would “get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.” I understand she is still NPR’s legal affairs. The statement by Juan Williams is far, FAR less offensive that her statement. Juan was correct in his statement and justified in saying it!

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:21 pm

Again……Drew is right.
Anyone in authority/majority makes a larger impact on everything than just the “on the street Joe”. The “average” man/woman is extremely important in how our society runs and behaves, but those in power have the most impact.

Many of you make valid points, so for now I shall sit back and read…and learn…although there is no way my religious beliefs will be changed, but my political ones can.

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:21 pm

I’m betting it’s getting fairly even now at around 13%. As for that, I work for a county that has a higher percentage of black employees than is the percentage of the county’s black demographic makeup.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:22 pm

So you agree these reprehensible acts take place, after you say you don’t “see blacks hanging from trees”? Anyway, so let’s name a couple of black on white crimes, outside of John Muhammed, and see if they fall into the category of institutional racism or citizen-on-citizen crime, shall we?

Albert

October 21st, 2010
5:22 pm

NPR must appear as far left liberal leaning to those who need to tune into Bill O’Reilly to be told what is right and what is wrong because they can not form opinions for themselves.

Anyone who has listened to NPR for any time knows that they make the extra effort to be fair and impartial by having at length discussions with those of opposing viewpoints.

For the same reason I stopped listening to CBS news for its liberal leanings in the 80’s, I quickly stopped tuning into Fox in the 90’s for its far right propaganda. I’m a Republican who has watched his party get hijacked by the Christian Coalition.

I don’t think JW should have been terminated for his comments on FOX but I’ll continue to listen to NPR because they take the extra effort to be fair and go deeper into the story than any other organization.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:23 pm

13%? 13% of what?

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:24 pm

Last thing I’ll say is, if we can’t get over yesterday, tomorrow will never improve. To my black friends, teach your kids to hate if you want. I don’t want want to live in a world of hate and I will not teach hate to my kids.

DK

October 21st, 2010
5:24 pm

Blacks make up 13% of the American population.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
5:28 pm

freespeechrules,

In leaving this blog, I thought I would leave you a quote from Ludwig Wittgenstein (20th century analytic philosopher)—something I think we can both appreciate (for once :) ). This is not verbatim, but you’ll get the jist.

2 people sitting down to discuss religion vs. science is like 2 people sitting down to play a game of chess. However, 1 person uses the rules of checkers and the other person uses the rules of backgammon–and you can’t play chess that way. The rules of language and language games does not allow for meaningful discourse here.

Best to you.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:29 pm

Best to you, too, Kevin.

mjc

October 21st, 2010
5:29 pm

The time for discussion is over. Let’s vote. If the majority of American taxpayers want any of their tax dollars going to the CPB, PBS, or NPR so be it. But if the majority doesn’t support tax subsidies for public broadcasting then end them. We do, after all, live in a democracy.

Not My Real Name

October 21st, 2010
5:29 pm

The ajc has buried this blog.

Why?

Old Dawg

October 21st, 2010
5:30 pm

NPR used (and I emphasize “USED”) to get my donation. NO MORE!! Juan is basically a liberal guy who told the truth about Muslims. Does anyone in America feel comfortable getting on a plane with a Muslim? NPR just confirmed their liberal bias to the “Nth” degree. God, what a bunch of wusses.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:31 pm

:) It all didn’t come out for some reason, Kevin, but thank you for the analogy and I’ll keep it in mind. Yes, something we can both appreciate.
Have a great evening.

Huff Post Stormtrooper

October 21st, 2010
5:32 pm

George Soros has his own little private army of “journalists” now.

He bought a hundred at NPR.

He is financing the Huffington Post’s “investigative” branch…. LMAO !

Sunlight is the best disinfectant Georgie Boy.

boots

October 21st, 2010
5:33 pm

Kevin, you have know idea of my own educational background. Let’s just say I’m as qualified as you are. However, your degree in philosophy might explain your desire to debate and make sweeping statements in justication of atheism. If you want to compare the evils of atheism with Christianity, go ahead, but you will have a problem. Let me put it this way. Let’s say three people highjack and crash three planes, killing a lot of people. One calls himself a christian, one calls himself a muslim and one an atheist. Christians would react by condemning the act because it goes directly against the teachings of our leader and God, and this is consistent with how Christians have reacted with similar events (meaning the person was not a true follower of Christ). Muslims would be divided – some would celebrate (if done against infidels), some would be quiet, and a minority would speak out against it. The act may or may not be consistent with the teachings of the Qur’an. The atheist crowd could not say much since, as a belief system, it doesn’t really have any “teachings” or moral code. For an atheist, at the end of the day, the three people, and the people on the plane were just pieces of furniture in the universe who were unlucky or uncivil enough to be there, but they are gone now, and there is no judgement against the highjackers except a bad PR problem for their families.

Huff Post Stormtrooper

October 21st, 2010
5:35 pm

Coincidence….? Soros buys 100 “enterprise journalists” and that afternoon Juan Williams is terminated.

Coincidence?

T.V. Said

October 21st, 2010
5:35 pm

Everyone knowa you can’t tell the truth about muslims, you must not be truthful you may hurt the terrorists ego.,

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:36 pm

@boots
Excellent! Thank you for honesty. You’ve made my day. Have a fantastic one yourself.

Tea Party Revolutionist

October 21st, 2010
5:38 pm

Juan is welcome to join us. We don’t throw each other under the bus.

Speak without fear, assemble and make your voice heard.

Sandra

October 21st, 2010
5:40 pm

My guess is that most of you who are commenting and calling NPR ‘liberal, elistist, and government funded’ don’t actually have a clue about NPR or ever listen to it. Most of you like the yelling and mud slinging and need someone to tell you how bad everyone is who don’t agree with what they say. I’ll take NPR over any of those jerks anyday.

Pat Carroll

October 21st, 2010
5:41 pm

NPR Firing of Williams Epitomizes Liberal Hypocrisy
NPR’s firing of Juan Williams for simply stating his opinion (one that is shared by most Americans and others around the world) epitomizes the smug, arrogant hypocrisy of the liberal left. As usual, for NPR, tolerance is a one way street. As usual, for NPR, freedom of speech is a one-way street. NPR is a disgrace. Juan told the truth. Like many Americans and others around the world, Juan gets nervous when Muslims dressed in Muslim garb get on an airplane. The NPR phonies call that thinking inconsistent with their “editorial policies”? Was Nina Totenberg’s statement that Jesse Helms should get AIDS representative of their “editorial policies”? IF MORE MODERATE AND PEACELOVING MUSLIMS WOULD SPEAK UP ABOUT THE GROSS, DISGUSTING DEMONIC ACTS THAT THEIR INSANE, FANATIC BROTHERS AND SISTERS COMMIT IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD–e.g., beheading Danny Pearl on video and posting it on the Internet — instead of applauding when a great American like Juan Williams gets fired for expressing a simple, UNDERSTANDABLE, HEALTHY fear — Americans would certainly be more accepting of Muslims in general. But no! With the exception of a few American patriots like Brigitte Gabriel (God love her), most peace loving Muslims keep quiet. And that my friends breeds fear! Of course we’re afraid! Who wouldn’t be? Because we don’t know what Muslims think unless they tell us, we’re going to conclude that, if given the chance, they would join the fanatics. Because evil prospers when good men do nothing.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
5:41 pm

Kevin: Who killed the Jews in Nazi Germany? Ummm it wasn’t a man that was very religious. At least not according to his closest advisors. Your use of Nazi Germany is exactly like the argument that you already discredited that our Founding Fathers created a Christian nation. Has violence been committed by religious people? Yes, absolutely, but it isn’t as much the driving force as you would like to have everyone believe.

Listen, I appreciate your views regarding science, I myself quite enjoy calling people who make pseudo-scientific claims to task, but perhaps you should apply some of that scientific reasoning to this particular topic.

I see that you are leaving the blog, take care and come back, because civil and intelligent discourse is always pleasant.

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:41 pm

I shall always speak without fear, honestly (as my knowledge lets me about an issue), and my voice is heard. I am not Tea Party, either, I am just an Independent Me.

TruthBe

October 21st, 2010
5:41 pm

Robert Oct 21 1:26pm, Robert you are a racist idiot. The People in the Tea Party are not KKK or skinheads. They are everyday Americans that are tired of this socilaist administration and it’s corrupt Democratic Leadership. Robert you need to stop drinking the obamajuice and get your head out of your ass.

Sandra

October 21st, 2010
5:42 pm

And to Tea Party Revolutionist’
You throw everyone under the bus who doesn’t agree with you!!!! Do you really think anyone believed what you said. I’ll bet you are one of those ‘don’t let the government mess with my Medicare’ folks. I have one word for you…..hyprocite.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:42 pm

Tea Party Revolutionist: Exercise your freedom of speech all you want; just don’t embarrass the guy who pays you, or you may earn is/her ire. Then you might just get fired.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

@Pat Carrol: Who said Juan spoke the truth? He gave an opinion, not “the truth.” And what makes you the arbiter of truth anyway?

freespeechrules

October 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

@JTesla
Again I learn. Thank you for being civil to both Kevin and me, and for stating history as it truly is. I must leave the blog for a bit, dinner needs to be made.
Have a great evening and I shall return.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

And in Pat Carroll’s world, peace-loving Muslims have an obligation to march on television, and be real, real loud about their patriotism while wearing American flag pins on their burkas. If not, and they choose to quietly go about their lives, they can and should expect us to suspect them of terrorism! Remember when all those Christians marched after Tim McVeigh blew up the Murrah building in OKC? Yeah, me neither.

TruthBe

October 21st, 2010
5:50 pm

Drew Williams, SHUT UP you racist idiot.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

If you can point out racism in anything I’VE said, please do so. Until then, go play your games elsewhere.

boots

October 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

@JTesla – I never meant to say all Muslims are terrorists or evil. I don’t feel that way at all. I can’t help but notice their profound silence though when terrorist acts are committed.

As for Kevin, I don’t think Adolf Hitler was a Christian, and no serious historian or theologian (or philosophy student who minored in religion) would say so either. Stalin, the Aztecs, the Myans, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, Mao, Pol Pot… I’m pretty sure none of these guys/groups were active in their local church choir.

As for Juan Williams, he was fired for giving his opinion on another network. Clearly the context established that he is not a bigot.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

freespeechrules: save some for me, and thank you.

Drew Williams: “Remember when all those Christians marched after Tim McVeigh blew up the Murrah building in OKC?”

Why would they, McVeigh was agnostic. For the record, I don’t remember any agnostic people marching after that event either. ;)

kevin

October 21st, 2010
5:54 pm

JTesla and freespeechrules,

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. JTesla, I am not entirely familiar with Hitler’s devoutness or lack thereof–just know that he frequently defended his actions by citing the bible.

Boots,

To suggest that atheists have no moral code, or more specifically that you cannot have a moral code without religion is flat wrong. Do you honestly think that atheists think of people as “pieces of furniture”!? Self Interest, preservation, love for others, emotional and physical stability, etc. are all things which inspire atheists to adopt some moral code. Just living life, paying attention, reading, learning, dealing with human beings inspires moral behavior. I seriously cannot believe you think morality cannot exist b/c atheists do not believe in religion or any focused group of teachings. That is completely mind-blowing.

Tween Barack and a hard place

October 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

Are you kidding me? NPR has had many commentators who downgraded G. Bush. Juan Williams was the best, most honest, straight forward person NPR EVER had. They are the most left leaning group other than MSNBC on the airwaves. I hope all you people who agree with this action are gonna make up for the loss revenue. Because my donations are stopping immedatiately.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

@jtesla: McVeigh was raised a Catholic, went to mass and by his own words maintained “core beliefs.”

boots

October 21st, 2010
5:59 pm

Drew: there were no “marches” against McVeigh, but it does not mean that Christians did not speak out against him. Of course they did, and you can easily find examples. Further, McVeigh did not blow up the federal building in the name of Christianity – he did it in the name of over-throwing the gov’t. It was political. I’m not sure the guy even considered himself a Christian, and he certainly did not behave according the teachings of Christ. I think everyone lumps him in with Christians because he is an American.

Joe Cassara

October 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

You can’t spell Schiller without s-h-i-l-l.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

‘Tween Barack is ready to elevate Juan to the sainthood. The man got fired, not crucified. So take him down from the cross, democracy remains intact.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

I just pooped and peed my pants.

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

This is between Vivian Schiller and her psychiatrist.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
6:04 pm

@boots: and I’ve seen footage of Muslims actively speaking out against terrorism, though it never seems to be quite enough to get beyond at least complacency and at most conspiracy. The point of the Muslim Center within blocks of the WTC site was meant to start building bridges and tearing down misperceptions. But nope, can’t have that. It’s a front to one of our newest sacred sites. So who wants dialogue and who really doesn’t?

boots

October 21st, 2010
6:05 pm

Kevin – I did not say athiest cannot have moral values or beliefs. Don’t build up a straw man. All I said was that there is no core teachings of atheism that dictate a moral life. For an atheist, it might be good for society’s sake for us all to behave and not blow up planes, and it conforms to a set of agreed-to societal laws, but it not wrong in its very essance, it is just bothersome. And, yes, an atheist does see individuals as temporary beings, brought about by chance, and answerable to no one after they die. Hence, my furniture statement. I’m not going to ramble on, but this is the whole “absolutes cannot exist without a God” philosophical argument. We disagree, and I suggest we spare everyone else the continued intellectual dribble we both can spout.

Drew Williams

October 21st, 2010
6:06 pm

Someone let a hairless socket-puppet in, I see. Nice to know the rejects are out there proving my point for me.

Ray

October 21st, 2010
6:06 pm

The garbage spewed by Juan on FOX was the same fuel that ignited the Holocaust, you morons.

Had the Jews expressed such pre-school thought about Christians following Tim McVeigh’s bomb,
the uneducated raging right would have crapped a brick.

There is no greater threat to this country today than the health of the ignorant redneck white trash movement.

Who needs al qaeda when you have the GOP?

jim

October 21st, 2010
6:06 pm

I totally support NPR on their stand, Vivian Schiller is a very smart and straight forward spokesperson. I love NPR and have been listening to NPR for several years and always find it very informative. They are not bias like all the other so called News Media and their unfair and unbalanced reporting and creating fear in our nation. God Bless America and God bless Vivian Schiller and good leaders like her. Thank you Vivian.

Ian Nimmo

October 21st, 2010
6:10 pm

I don’t believe a word, this is just more BS from the Socialist takeover of America and George Soros using his money to shut down honest American free speech. We will hold her and her money backers accountable. They need to stop right now!

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
6:10 pm

kevin – the proud atheist assertion is patently false. They were not catholic or baptist, but they did believe in a supreme being, and tended toward Christianity.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
6:10 pm

@Drew Williams: McVeigh also stated that “Science is my religion” in addition to claiming that he was agnostic (his words) and he stated that he would “‘improvise, adapt and overcome’ if it turned out there was an afterlife” Not a lot of faith shown in that last bit.

I would debate more, but in reality I agree with what you are saying regarding Muslims. They were, as a whole, shocked and outraged at 9/11. People in the US ignore that because it’s hard to demonize someone who is compassionate.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
6:14 pm

Personally, I like Juan Williams and believe his firing to be thought police provoked. I shall be boycotting NPR from here on out, and will not give to them or CPB for the next decade or so. The censorship by these politically correct ninnies should not be permitted – both the woman should be terminated for cause.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
6:17 pm

Jtesla – i was not witness to much shock and outrage. The Palestinians would already be living in peace if they had followed Gandhi’s example. INstead, since at least the 72 Olympics, they have systematically committed violence upon the jewish people. A society can not award another competing society with that type of behavior. One bad apple ruins the bunch, so how many bad spuds in a human community contaminate the community?

Paddy O

October 21st, 2010
6:18 pm

Drew – you know that concept of the muslim community center was an after thought after the organizers suffered quite a bit of public blowback – that was not the original intent.

boots

October 21st, 2010
6:21 pm

Good night, all. I’m off to eat dinner and watch some Fox News.

Belinda Gomez

October 21st, 2010
6:24 pm

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
6:27 pm

LOL Paddy O, really Palestinian society? Those darn Palestinian’s, they’d be living in peace as poor refugees for this past half century if they’d followed Gandhi, instead of living this past half century simply as poor refugees. Crazy Palestinians, but hey let’s pin everything this small group has done on all Muslims. Oh yeah baby!

Of course “one bad apple ruins the bunch”, yeah you don’t want to go there either. I’ve shot down the McVeigh was a Christian angle, but enterprising commentators could easily pick someone else to be the Christian or the American (McVeigh) bad apple. Well why not let NPR be the bad apple, ban all radio. There, problem solved.

Leonard Witt

October 21st, 2010
6:41 pm

I attended the speech that Vivian Schiller, NPR CEO, gave at the Atlanta Press Club today and afterward got a nice video. It’s of her explaining why NPR terminated Juan Williams’ contract after he said on Fox News that when he sees people in Muslim dress on airplanes he gets nervous.

Also catch the elevator pitch — or was it almost a ditch ( I don’t think so) — when I ask if it would be ethical for a journalist to give NPR money and cover it too. Here is the video.
See: http://sustainablejournalism.org/weblog/post/2745/

Charles Witt

October 21st, 2010
6:54 pm

NPR CEO Vivian Schiller should immediately be fired for her Juan Williams “psychiatrist” remark… She obviously thinks that ALL black people are mentally troubled and have regular visits with psychiatrists

Betty

October 21st, 2010
7:01 pm

From NPR’s website: “Nina Totenberg is NPR’s award-winning legal affairs correspondent…the creme de la creme is Nina Totenberg.” Apparently being a legal affairs correspondent doesn’t require the same standard of impartiality required of analysts. Wishing AIDS on a U.S. Senator, after all, doesn’t meet the high standards outlined in the interview above, but she’s not only kept her job with NPR, she’s touted as one of their shining stars. Methinks a double standard exists at NPR depending on whether their leadership agrees with what’s being said or not.

The Public Professor

October 21st, 2010
7:01 pm

[...] What’s more, in a move of incredible classlessness, NPR CEO Vivian Schiller gave an interview to Atlanta Journal Constitution in which she rubbed salt in the wound.  First she split hairs about “Juan” (she refuses to [...]

Oop

October 21st, 2010
7:05 pm

Shiller is another liberal elitist who thinks she knows better than the rest of us, as you can tell from her condescending tone during the interview. And for all you liberals out there, if stuff like this is allowed, where does it end? I didn’t agree when Sanchez was fired and I don’t agree with this now.

Betty

October 21st, 2010
7:06 pm

Also, Ms. Schiller says, “Juan is not an employee of NPR. He’s an independent contractor. He’s not NPR staff.”

Wouldn’t that be all the more reason NOT to fire him for something he said on another network, on another show? He wasn’t appearing as a representative of NPR.

Mandy

October 21st, 2010
7:23 pm

I listened to the NPR pledge drive announcer say last night that NPR was a place where all voices were welcomed and not shouted down. Hmmmmmmm …….

Fred

October 21st, 2010
7:26 pm

Its always ok to ridicule Christians by the left so lets organize and show what the power of Christians can do when we boycott any company or organization that sponsors the anti-Christian retoric. I am not a big fan of Juan but he got screwed over big time for speaking the truth. I bet you that miz Schiller would be nervous if she sat next to some muslums who were praying on the plane. When have you seen any muslums condem the 911 attack? Wake up America you are in a holy war before it is too late

tony

October 21st, 2010
7:32 pm

Lets make this simple. The only person who should be fired is Vivian Schiller for her bigoted liberal attitude. You are welcome to be in their tent so long as you believe and say what they want you to say. Her commentator story as the reason for firing Juan does not hold water based upon NPR’s pass history.

Olivia

October 21st, 2010
7:32 pm

Speech on NPR is monitored speech, not free speech. I am friends with and related to some very liberal people and they, as a group, want to express themselves freely but if I interject with my opinions most of them look at me as though I just flew in from Mars and, gasping and sputtering, try to relieve me of my wrong thoughts by explaining my error. Yes, I do listen to their thoughts and opinions and do not demean or belittle them, but they same courtesy is not extended to me. A common trait among liberals and progressives and now we know is a common trait by the folks in charge at NPR.

Dan

October 21st, 2010
7:34 pm

So how come Vivian hasn’t fired Nina Totenberg for this statement.


if there was “retributive justice” in the world the (admittedly loathsome) Jesse Helms would “get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/will-npr-fire-nina-totenberg-for-wishing-jesse-helms-would-get-aids-105441948.html#ixzz132VMiYtD

Dan

October 21st, 2010
7:36 pm

Watch this, and then ask why NPR hasn’t fired Nina Totenberg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7msrF1V4NeY

Kary

October 21st, 2010
7:40 pm

If Juan is an Independent contractor NPR should have no say over what he does when he is not working for them. You hire independent contractors so you aren’t required to pay their insurance, SS, medicare and benefits but IRS rules state

The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if you, the person for whom the services are performed, have the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not the means and methods of accomplishing the result.

Sure wouldn’t seem like they could fire him for work on another program.

Son of\ Roanoke

October 21st, 2010
7:43 pm

I’ll never forget the day after the Republican voter revolution of 1994, our local NPR station saying today’s headline–Feinstein wins in California and Kennedy wins in Mass. Oh yes, that was a clear, unbiased summary of that election.
Now that the Republicans are again ready to take over the House, how far does your head have to be up your nether regions to hand them an issue like this on a silver platter. Brilliant!

Dan

October 21st, 2010
7:46 pm

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh Viviannnnnnnnnnn, why haven’t you also fired Nina Totenberg ?

RUFUS LEVIN

October 21st, 2010
7:47 pm

Well, what SHOWS is all the years she spent running operations for THE NEW YORK TIMES…and she pulls this elitist snobbery about independence of journalism and how they have to be objective…like Maureen Down and Frank Rich???

What a sorry piece of trash. Clearly her FIRST husband got the message early enough to dump her for the guy from CNN she married, but wouldn’t even take HIS last name. If there are any people needing psychiatry or therapy, it would be her TWO POOR KIDS.

Watch NPR financials TANK.

Seas

October 21st, 2010
7:52 pm

NPR is a worthless entity and should be removed from the air waves. Additionally Vivian Schiller is worthless in any capacity. She would have trouble performing at McDonald’s drive-up window. A real Air-Head! Besides, who in their right mind would waste time listening to the idiots on NPR?

Michael

October 21st, 2010
7:54 pm

So Juan Williams can’t have opinions, but Nina Totenberg can? Good puff piece to help Ms. Schiller do damage control. Juan was an analyst for NPR, which arguably requires some opinion, Nina is a reporter which (at least in theory) should be more fact based. Nina regularly spouts opinion about many topics including that she regrets the diversity of the democratic party and would change it if she could, why is she still employed at NPR?

DR DMAN

October 21st, 2010
7:56 pm

MS SCHILLER: One word: FUNDING…! Our local Public station is again pushing folks to “support” them. I would think all of your decision would be based on how you might effect that. As a moderate/conservative who listens to WABE (90.1FM) relatively often – but who has NEVER sent money, they further reinforces my resolve NOT TO! I wish we could find out how many others who are in this same boat. Your network is PROFOUNDLY leftist with so many of the views expressed, but still offers a solid news outlet with “Morning Edition” and “All Things Considered”. It is a shame that you all of clearly bought into the “Progressive” agenda. This decision further reinforces that. While I probably disagreed with Juan Williams 80% of the time, I found myself having to respect his integrity and intelligent arguments. Without a doubt this is YOUR (NPR’s) loss. Sad…

Michael

October 21st, 2010
7:58 pm

the NPR pledge drive going on now asks for donations based on the trust they have earned over the last 40 years… well i have listened to NPR for most of those years, but no longer. they clearly want to stifle any voice with whom they do not agree while accepting government funding. firing Juan Williams eradicated any residual trust they may have had.

Melissa's mom

October 21st, 2010
8:00 pm

I like to watch Bret Baier’s round table discussions on Fox News and always thought Juan Williams was very fair, though slightly leaning to the left. I’m shocked that NPR would fire him for speaking his mind. Anyone who thinks NPR is not political or has political activists working there, has never listened to the show! Every time I’ve ever heard “All Things Considered”, my thought is – the name of the show should be “All Things Considered Liberal”!

kevin

October 21st, 2010
8:01 pm

Fred,

It’s “muslims”, not “muslums”. It’s “rhetoric”, not “retoric”. I do not know many muslims, but I know a few (and work directly with one) and all of them condemn the 911 attacks. If you’d watch something other than Fux news, you’d see that most muslims, like most Christians, are not extremists. The “holy war” exists precisely because people like you are the pig-headed, white, Christian version of the very people you claim to hate.

Whoopi

October 21st, 2010
8:01 pm

NPR should be taken off the air!!

kevin

October 21st, 2010
8:03 pm

Juan’s contract was annihilated because he no longer represented an analyst, but an opinionated pundit–which NPR, if you have ever listened, does not support or broadcast.

Dan

October 21st, 2010
8:10 pm

Why is this Okay Vivian, but Juan is fired ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7msrF1V4NeY

OldTimer

October 21st, 2010
8:20 pm

If it hasn’t been said, then let me say it now.
Rodney Ho is the man.
Great job, you got the story.

dave payton

October 21st, 2010
8:22 pm

The government should not be funding NPR. Also take away the tax exempt donation status, it’s not a charity. They should do just fine being run as any other media business.

Pavel Bryansky

October 21st, 2010
8:22 pm

Mara – Pogrom has beginning. Watch out your ass.

Paula101

October 21st, 2010
8:30 pm

Is she Jewish? Simple question, not one worth firing any body for.

Joey Salaun

October 21st, 2010
8:39 pm

Schiller is nothing more than a schill. Piss poor reasons for terminating Juan Williams. Even worse, her comments on why. Give her the boot. I will never give another penny in support.

Uncle Chris

October 21st, 2010
8:44 pm

Juan Williams had every right, under the First Amendment, to state his opinion that he was nervous when flying with Muslims. NPR had every right to fire Juan Williams for stating that opinion.

What is particularly galling is that Juan Williams is proud of the books he has written on southern segregation, emphasizing the civil rights movement. Here he is, however, just a bigoted about Muslims in general as members of the KKK were bigoted about blacks.

Donald McWethy

October 21st, 2010
8:45 pm

Anybody who says the word “censorship” is a freaking moron. He can say anything he wants. They just aren’t going to pay him anymore. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a paid platform for such speech.

Donald McWethy

October 21st, 2010
8:46 pm

and oh, by the way, he violated his contract. why shouldn’t he be fired?

jazz

October 21st, 2010
8:48 pm

npr should be defunded first thing tomorrow morning. Don’t use my tax dollars to support one point of view. See these mind numbed robots
http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2010/oct/20/wssu-e-mail-called-illegal-ar-467783/

Peter Thomas

October 21st, 2010
8:55 pm

NPR will never get a dime from me. I hope they go out of business. I suggest that everyone who feels the same way boycotts public radio sponsors. I will only take a few radio stations taking hits on fund raising and they’ll get the message. There is nothing on NPR that can’t be heard elsewhere. Stop funding it with my tax dollars.

Dan

October 21st, 2010
8:59 pm

The point you leftists fail to understand, is that Nina Totenberg had absolutely disgusting comments about Jesse Helms. That’s okay of course, because leftists preach free speech all day long, as long as it’s something they agree with. Thus why Totenberg got away with her hateful vile remarks.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
9:01 pm

I love all of these people saying they will never give NPR a dime. You’ve never listened to it or given a dime in the past–big loss. Jeez.

Josh

October 21st, 2010
9:04 pm

I’ll continue listening to WABE, but I’ll never give them any money.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
9:12 pm

Peter Thomas,

Clearly, you have never listened to NPR. What other news source gives you the information, in the manner, NPR does?

Ray Ernst

October 21st, 2010
9:17 pm

It seems like at least 90%+ of the 400 cmments here are opposed to the NPR action. Thank God for good reasoning-. Perhaps this will be a tipping point for what NPR really is.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
9:29 pm

Ray Ernst,

90% of the people on this blog have clearly never listened to NPR and have no idea what it really is.

Billy

October 21st, 2010
9:32 pm

Williams was just reading from a script provided by Fox News.

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
9:33 pm

Vivian Schiller, NPR CEO, should be fired for offended the mentally ill and/or anyone that seek psychiatric help. She is of a small mind and a purveyor of hate.

mda

October 21st, 2010
9:44 pm

The BIGOTS at NPR bows to terrorist group CAIR!!! Who cares about Juan? Why don’t you comies discuss the HealthCare ram-rod? Or the Stimulus theft of America? Why not talk about how every Dem in Congress gave America the shaft? Oh, that’s because NPR hates America…

NPR – the cesspool of te world….and a nice liberal (and tere are so few) gets the axe because George Soros is paying them t can him… Like every cowardly liberal – make up a lie to cover your pathetic a$$es….

Ron

October 21st, 2010
9:54 pm

The issue is not free speech, it is hypocrisy. There are many examples of NPR reporters showing a clear bias in their reporting and they were not fired for their actions. Mr William did not show political bias and in fact made the point that while emotionally he had fear regarding Muslims, intellectually he needed to overcome those fears and judge people individually rather that because the group to which they belong. This is pure political correctness aimed in one direction. It is fair game to have a bias against Conservatives, Christians, Jews, and the Rich. It is totally unacceptable to show any bias towards Liberals, Hispanics, Muslims, etc.

Ms. Schiller can do whatever she wanst, just not with my money. Time for NPR to stand on its own or let those who support their message pay the bill.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
10:08 pm

MDA,

Yeah, making sure every human being has healthcare coverage is awful. The stimulus started under Bush, and by the way, is clearly working. While unemployment is still suffering, nearly all economic analysts conclude we are officially out of the recession. The stock market has recovered and businesses are beginning to thrive again. Also, it’s worth noting, Bush spent more money than Clinton and Carter combined. He inherited a surplus and ran up the biggest deficit in US history. Blaming the current administration for the current economic situation is like blaming a firefighter for starting the fire; it’s ludicrous and ignores the fact that our previous president was the most irresponsible president in history–extending tax cuts to the richest 3% of the country and starting a completely unnecessary and expensive was in Iraq. And, it’s worth mentioning, he lied to do so. Sure, it’s not as bad as lying about a bj (give me a break).

defund

October 21st, 2010
10:13 pm

NPR just showed their true colors. A day or so ago, George Soros gave them lots of money to hire “journ o lists”…no doubt this had a lot to do with it, since Soros hates anyone that isn’t a one world, far leftist.

NPR has also tried to get Mara (don’t remember her last name), off of Fox also.

Either you have the view points of Soros, NPR, etc…..or you are out!

Defund them, PBS, the ARTS, special interest groups, and thousands of other things the federal gov. is involved in….the federal gov. was not never intended to take so much money in taxes and get involved in all the things they are now!

Obvious

October 21st, 2010
10:16 pm

AppealToReason…You are Retarded. I mean no disrespect. What I mean is that you are Retarded in a clinical sense.

Please, please…go see a doctor.

Obvious

kevin

October 21st, 2010
10:21 pm

Good point Defund,

The government should only overspend with regards to defense, making sure abortion becomes illegal, gays should never be allowed to marry, ensuring people who make ungodly amounts of money have more loopholes to avoid paying taxes, thwarting 1st amendment rights, e.g. the patriot act, not helping the poor and less fortunate, and, of course, making sure we ensure we are a country built on Christian faith. Let’s see is there anything else…oh yeah, make sure all brown people are first thought of as being terrorists before thought of as being human beings. Long live the GOP and Tea Baggers!

Doug

October 21st, 2010
10:22 pm

Just like the Liberal Elitists Network (LEN) or NPR to claim their eternal support for free speech, as long as they get to approve it first. Juan was the most unbiased commentators on LEN and now will be the left voice on Fox. I am glad this happened before most people wrote that annual check, and the tax payers should no longer be forced to support a network who managerial leadership is so obviously on extreme left of most of those tax payers.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
10:34 pm

NPR is only liberally biased if you are fool enough to think Fox news is “fair and balanced”. Quit taking you Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity enemas!

Penelope

October 21st, 2010
10:35 pm

Juan’s point touched the nerve in most americans that are honest with themselves. NPR is either out of touch with most of us, OR they desire to control and manipulate us to be so politically correct that we no longer know exactly what we think about anything! (unless of course, we listen 24/7 to NPR). No more money going that way from me, my family or anyone else I spoke to about this today!

Werbaz Neutron

October 21st, 2010
10:38 pm

Schieffer compared the GOP to the Taliban and he is yet on NPR. I think NPR’s distinction between opinion and news analysis is a bit too self-serving…….

NPR refuses to draw parallels to the Williams firing because – what did she say — each case is a special case. Now that is pretty laughably transparent. Who does that babe think she is talking to?

spiv

October 21st, 2010
10:55 pm

I attempt to listen to all sides. And believe me, it’s not always easy. Juan Williams is the only self confessed liberal that I can actually listen to without my brain feeling as if it were going to explode. HE doesn’t yell, cuss, accuse, smear, etc those he disagrees with, he’s a real gentleman. Now, Vivian Schiller, she’s one piece of fruit cake.

hughglass

October 21st, 2010
10:59 pm

It’s nice to see that that lib’s universe of “enemies of the state” continues tp expand. I enjoy having some company! Starting out with dead white Euopeans, who had destroyed America, they quickly moved on to include all heartless white male conservatives, like me. The vermin then picked up the pace, viciously attacking Black conservatives. In the last year or two, the libtards have added conservative women to the list of “untouchables”. Attractive conservative women, who are legion, seem particularly repugnant to the left. With the addition of Juan Williams, whom I consider to be a thoughtful, articulate advocate of liberalism, to the lib hate list, they have now added Black, lifelong battlers for civil rights (see “Eye On The Prize”), to the group who just don’t measure up. That big liberal tent is looking more like a pup tent everyday. I, for one, am delighted. Have a nice November 3rd.

spiv

October 21st, 2010
11:01 pm

Oh, by the way Kevin, your another piece of fruit cake. Keep this up and yawl might just make an entire FRUIT CAKE. HA

kevin

October 21st, 2010
11:02 pm

hughglass,

liberals do not hate juan williams. in fact, i think hin to be thoughtful and insightful. he just happened to violate his contract.

yes, have a happ nov.3rd–we’ll have a happy 2012 after you conservative yahoos muck everything up again.

kevin

October 21st, 2010
11:04 pm

spiv,

Nice comment! Way to make it entirely void of anything substantial whatsoever!

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
11:23 pm

Wait: “he just happened to violate his contract” how so? Did it actually say in his contract he couldn’t share his opinion, or that he couldn’t feel anything that runs counter to what his bosses at NPR think?

Just a little fact finding on my part, no kool-aid sippin here.

robinhuud

October 21st, 2010
11:32 pm

Question #! – whatever happened to freedom of speech. It seems in this country that to be “politically correct” you can’t have a personal opinion on anything. Don’t criticize the blacks, or the jews, or the muslims, don’t criticize anybody. So everyone plays the game and goes home and does the criticizing behind closed doors. Muslims crashed into our two world trade center towers and killed thousands. Article after article is being written about the every increasing threat of muslims in the world, especially in places like London, Paris and other large cities. They take over the neighborhoods and try to control society, from praying at airports to having their restaurants dominate where they live. To ignore these warnings is simply ludicrous. One day we will wake up and captive of these people, who hate us and have no respect for human life. I also abhor the way Jean was fired, by telephone. How cowardice. She seems to be the standard CEO functioning today, full of cowardice, excuses, and spewing the typical corporate “answers” rehearsed to answer each situation. By the way, I also send the CEO of NPR an email and told her how cowardice I thought she was.

b cook

October 21st, 2010
11:33 pm

how dare you.

b cook

October 21st, 2010
11:37 pm

why are your views being funded by all tax payer dollars!!!!!!!!!

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
11:52 pm

robinhuud: “whatever happened to freedom of speech” do you mean before or after the Patriot Act provisions of which have been continued by Obama? Sorry, you mean Juan’s freedom of speech, this isn’t a freedom of speech issue. At all. I’m opposed to his firing, but it has nothing to do with Constitutionally granted freedoms.

This is the best part: “They (Muslims) take over the neighborhoods and try to control society, from praying at airports to having their restaurants dominate where they live”

So you’re saying I can’t pray in an airport? Because that is where I do some of my best praying. All Christians, you have been warned, no praying in airports. That statement not to be outdone by having their restaurants dominate where they live? Well DUH that’s called good business, first you don’t have to drive far to get to your place of employment, and second, your located right where your best clientele will be! HELLO! It’s the same reason why there are a lot of Chinese restaurants in China Town.

robinhuud it’s late, try again in the morning.

JTesla

October 21st, 2010
11:53 pm

your, you’re, same thing right?

Dave from GT

October 21st, 2010
11:57 pm

I bet NPR is defunded, tries to compete, loses, goes out of business……… and Soros will not be with us within the next 20 years.

Nowthat is something to look forward to !

susan

October 22nd, 2010
12:11 am

Look at all the biased analysts who work for NPR keeps them, but they fire Williams for speaking his mind.
This is troubling, and makes me angry.
The govt. should stop giving any taxpayer money to NPR, and CEO Schiller needs to be fired!

[...] is in full damage control, but not backing down. From AJC, an interview with NPR’s CEO Vivian Schiller: A: Let’s state a couple of facts. Juan is not an employee of NPR. He’s an independent [...]

aaron

October 22nd, 2010
12:19 am

its time to cut funding for this nonsense…

Justice for All

October 22nd, 2010
12:31 am

Holy Juanoly!! Mr. Ho, do you ever recall this much e-response to any of your previous online stories? And your site happens to be but just ONE of several sites that has been inundated with negative comments regarding Ms. Schiller’s recent action against Juan Williams.
Certainly, NPR will have to respond accordingly to Ms. Schiller’s major faux pas. And she may want to seek out the services of a good psychiatrist herself. Any CEO that would choose the very same time period that is devoted to her own company’s fundraising to commit such a public injustice certainly needs to have her OWN head examined. And she thought NPR’s budget was operating with a deficeit 2 years ago??

Freakshow blue

October 22nd, 2010
12:53 am

It’s time to take every NPR and PBS station and put the band position up for sale. These are public airwaves right? We are hurting aren’t we? NPR and PBS were started up with Government funds and the actually airwaves they broadcast on are we the people’s. Sell them !!! If FOX is the highest bidder so be it. If someone wants to buy NPR and roll tapes of bowling tournaments so be it. I want my money back and I want entertainment too. Have a sale off on live TV. Then Fire the SOB’s at PBS and NPR on the air. Nothing better than us saving money and being entertained at the same time !!!!

Soros

October 22nd, 2010
12:55 am

George Soros is a cheap mutt!

$1.8 million ain’t going to get you nothing. It’s MSM vs Fox News and liberals are losing it big time.
What Soros should have done is offer $18 billions to buy Fox News out.

Cheap mutt!!! Tell him to watch Logan’s Run movie and patch up that escape route!

Freakshow blue

October 22nd, 2010
12:57 am

and another thing. Am I to understand that Juan was the only Black person on the air? And these racist clowns get government funding? Time to open and Equal Opportunity Investigation into each NPR station. Jail them for being bigoted racist morons. Are you supporting NPR? You must be a racist.

Ha Ho

October 22nd, 2010
1:00 am

Yo Ho,

You forgot to tell us that if you think like Juan about Muslims on an airplane, then we need to see a psychiatrist….

Afraidofmuslims

October 22nd, 2010
1:04 am

Viavian, I really get scared of muslims when I take an airplane, now that you know it: you are fired and my donation to NPR, too.

Jenny Moose

October 22nd, 2010
1:06 am

Why is Mara Liasson and Nina T. still able to have opinions on network shows?

Is it because Juan is black or because he is male?

Do anyone see black male-ing here? Just asking ;-P

Ha Ho

October 22nd, 2010
1:09 am

“If you are afraid of Muslims on an airplane…please get help and see a psychiatrist” – Vivian Schiller

lilo Bjorling

October 22nd, 2010
1:14 am

I WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE, again.
Free speech is still allowed last I looked? or is it?

Come on Now

October 22nd, 2010
2:20 am

NPR now has no black analysis..
And they have the nerve to call the TEA PARTY racist!
Did I miss something?

Yes B

October 22nd, 2010
2:48 am

All of the people commenting who say that people should just say whatever you want to say and not apologize or are saying that he’s just stating an opinion are full of crap. If you’re white you know good and well you couldn’t ever say you’re scared of black men when you’re walking down the street. You’d look like a complete racist idiot. Well guess what, muslim is the new black. Oh yeah and to Cause I Care, scared of all men? How in the world do you function? You sound like you need meds sister. Journalists have to watch what they say, period, end of story. He’s got a $2mil gig with Fox now.

Roger

October 22nd, 2010
2:59 am

I made a substantial donation to WABE last year, but in light of Mrs. Schiller’s recent actions that was clearly a mistake. Who should I contact regarding a refund?

Clydezilla

October 22nd, 2010
6:00 am

If taxpayer dollars make up such a small portion of CPB’s budget, then withholding it shouldn’t be such a problem, right?

Additionally, why not cut off the funds that come to NPR/PBS through the National Endowment for the Humanities, or the National Endowment for the Arts?

Elitist idiots…

Clydezilla

October 22nd, 2010
6:03 am

NPR – so open-minded that their brains fell out…

[...] “credibility” that NPR thinks they have when it comes to “objectivity”).  Version Two of NPR’s firing: He “stepped over the line” with his comments…you know, the [...]

Steve dale

October 22nd, 2010
7:40 am

Do the math ,,,, 98.68% of the comments on here are pro Jaun Williams an anti NPR and anti 9/11 style religions……….. 1.32% pro NPR and pro 9/11 style religion lovers………..THATS AN INDICATION OF HOW AMERICA FEELS……………………………… NPR= a bunch of people professing themselves to be wise, but are actually blind, blundering idiots and dont realize that almost 99% of the public thinks so…..well……. 98.68% ………………now that is funny..

ciaonow

October 22nd, 2010
8:14 am

Simply put, she is a LIAR! If Mr. Williams had said something about the Tea Party making him troubled, do you think he would have been fired? Also, she is such a “good guy” that Mr. Williams, got fired over the telephone..really? After 10 years of “towing the company line” These people ALL have a political agenda and she is no different. I suggest that SHE be fired for being a liar and a “shill” for their liberal, left wing agenda and for NEVER showing both sides of an issue. BTW..she is also, just a crummy human being as any one who knows her will attest.

Causal Bystander

October 22nd, 2010
8:25 am

Vivian Schiller, how can she say what she did with a straight face. I have not always agreed with Jaun Williams, but in this instance I agree entirely that when Arab speaking folks are in-line for an airplane, I too give them a second look. Come-on, 100% of the nuts that crashed airplanes into buildings, the Pentagon and Pennsylvania fields were Muslim extremists. WE are involved in two conflicts right now…..with Muslim extremists. Muslim extremists have been involved in the Time Square bombing, attack at Ft Hood and any number of attacks around the world. You bet your a$$ I am giving Arab speaking or dressed folks a second look!!! Good On Ya Juan!

Jenny

October 22nd, 2010
8:32 am

I was shocked when I heard that Juan Williams had been fired by NPR. I hadn’t seen the program on Fox, so I tracked down the video online. What I saw, was Juan Williams attempting to start a dialogue, based on a desire for people to speak up, and work through their feelings, on all sides to bring them out in the open, rather than keeping us all festering in silence. Williams had the guts to admit that he feels a bit anxious at times if he sees a Muslim dressed in traditional garb, on board a plane. Said traditional garb signifying Muslim fundamentalism. He admitted it as a means to get a discourse going, and in all candor, most Americans have felt this way since 9/11 and the regular attempts by Muslim fundamentalists on air craft, to engage in acts of terrorism. I remember when NPR expressed the opinion that such discourse, as a way of clearing the air was healthy and positive, apparently it’s sold out it’s original mission, and Juan Williams is now the first public victim. I can only imagine the chilling effect this will have on other journalists.

Juan Williams has always been the consummate professional, we look to journalists to inform the public, not being propagandists for politicians. Apparently the 2 large slush funds provided by George Soros, first 1 million and then another 1.8 million has allowed Ms. Schiller to feel entitled to show her true colors?

TRx21

October 22nd, 2010
8:36 am

She should be fired immediately. She is a bigot and a propagandist. How does NPR get a half a billion in public money and have such an obvious partisan bias? CUT OFF ALL FUNDING THAT MAKES IT’S WAY TO NPR.

TRx21

October 22nd, 2010
8:38 am

I want Vivian Schiller to prover her own purity on the bigotry question. She should take a long stroll thru the darkest streets in the worst ghetto in Washington DC at 2:30 this morning, when the bars close by herself. If she doesn’t have the nerve to do it, i would ask her why not?

Stuart Berman

October 22nd, 2010
8:57 am

How much of that tax money distributed to the affiliated stations makes its way back to NPR in the form of fees and charges?

Steve

October 22nd, 2010
9:15 am

Juan was only stating the truth. I just shows how our great nation is bowing to political correctness. Enough!!!!!

Steve

October 22nd, 2010
9:20 am

Rodney- Do you know what this really about? We’ve all been screwed over at work, been fired, let go, been treated unfairly, undeserving a-holes promoted ahead of us, and we don’t get to go on national TV and bitch about it. We are all living out our frustrations with people like Vivian Schiller through Williams. “Stick it to the man” Juan!
Couple of questions:
Will Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, or the NAACP start crying racism?
Does Vivian Schiller get to keep her job after expressing her “opinion” after she stated “that’s between him and his psychiatrist?” oh, she did apologize……..the open and blatant hypocrisy is just too GD funny.

Cormac

October 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

Why should we fund Stalinists like Schiller? She and her ilk need to understand that free speech is a core American value.

sharon zirn

October 22nd, 2010
9:38 am

Cause I Care. Your percentages really speaks to me.

Sonnie

October 22nd, 2010
9:45 am

Ms. Schiller needs a publicist and a psychiatrist as she has become a liability to NPR.

Ron Bonner

October 22nd, 2010
10:09 am

NPR CEO Vivian Schiller should resign.

Vivian Schiller has demonstrated that she is not fit to be head of NPR.

BH

October 22nd, 2010
10:11 am

Juan Williams was describing a feeling NOT an opinion when he described his reactions aboard an aircraft based on people’s attire. NPRs action were simply a thinly “veiled” (pun intended) maneuver to get back at a network it doesn’t like. Clearly NPR needs a CEO who knows the difference between a feeling and an opinion.

james freeman

October 22nd, 2010
10:14 am

anyone know how to get this worthless pos fired?

james freeman

October 22nd, 2010
10:15 am

some of our taxes go to NPR. we should fire this moronic biased employee.

PEPPER

October 22nd, 2010
10:19 am

I must say so my self I took a flight to New York and while waiting to board the plane I was looking around hoping no Muslims got on the plane. On my return flight out of New York I was so up tight I saw everyone that sat in my view saying there prayers and looking all around. It is a feeling out of this world on a plane now and to see a Muslim in there Muslim clothing on a flight with you yes that is a lot to deal with. It is the TRUTH no one can change that.

R. Lee

October 22nd, 2010
10:21 am

She is Amazing. She lies throught her teeth but yet I don’t see her lips move. Apparently she does not believe in the First Amendent !! What a Joke. Apparently she wants to live in a communist world with State Run Radio that silences normal free speech. I hope and Pray that she gets Fired Immediately. She did not even have the courage to discuss this with Juan, maybe go to him and even then the public that opinions, in his role for NPR, have to be curtailed. But no she fires him and then says that is not why she fired him ?? Does she believe America will believe this cra#p. No way. She has just sunk her career and will go down as one of the Biggest Idiots ever !!

Youdressfunny

October 22nd, 2010
10:24 am

My god there are a lot of idiots on this forum. Oh, forgot, its Atlanta!

PEPPER

October 22nd, 2010
10:26 am

See if Muslims fire any staff that state a comment/opinion/thought ect. about America. Opps I forgot we are the bad guys. They should look out for us.

We are still under attack.

Alex

October 22nd, 2010
10:34 am

Hope NPR is shocked back to reality when no money comes in. Schiller should be axed for this boondockel. This also shows how much power Islam representation groups have in this country.

geneatbest

October 22nd, 2010
10:36 am

God Bless Juan Williams. He just said it like it is! Stick a ring in your nose, you give me a message. Dress up like a nazi, you give me a message. Drop your pants below your butt, you give me a message. This is America. Dress the way you like. My mind responds to my eyes.

FrmrNPRContrib

October 22nd, 2010
10:56 am

Based on her “strong ethical standards” claim I can only assume that Vivian the clueless liberal is in complete agreement with NPR Producer Sarah Spitz’s publicly stated desire for Rush Limbaugh to die a painful death from a heart attack. According to the WSJ, Vivian the clueless liberal took her directions from CAIR in firing Williams.

C Dalton

October 22nd, 2010
11:20 am

Wow, what right-wing nutbar website got linked to this article so quickly after its posting? Smells like a “Digg Patriots” situation to me with all of the fake names and repetitive straw-man arguments here.

“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them… We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”

-Karl Popper

R Norman

October 22nd, 2010
11:22 am

Schiller the shill! What a crock!
I may not always agree with Juan but he pretty much tells it straight. I also am afraid of Muslim dress on airplanes, Muslims blocking streets in Paris without permission and flying into the towers.
PC is out of control when one cannot express their opinion without getting fired. No more funding from me.

mmsurvivor

October 22nd, 2010
11:43 am

I am sorry for the local stations, HOWEVER, they shoud get someone else besides Shilling running the corp. When I called NPR yesterday to indicate my displeasure in the firing of Juan Williams ( and I am a conservative republican), I indicated to stop sending me pleadge requests. This was the final draw. As far as what Juan said, most of Americans that fly feel the same way. Will you be in the plane that goes down?

Jim

October 22nd, 2010
11:52 am

She is typical liberal…..free speech only if you agree with the left. NPR hates everything our country stands for…..

Renee Houston

October 22nd, 2010
11:56 am

Thank You, Ms. Schiller for my inspiration behind my “Best Witch” costume this year!

Return to Arts & Music Only

October 22nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Vivian Schiller needs to be fired yesterday. Also Juan Willians needs to sue her.
All tax payer funding Local, State,Federal needs to stop Today.

George Soros and his origations needs to be looked into Its off he writes a check that benifits NPR Juan Williams contract is Axed.

I have stopped listiner support of my local NPR station. I am encourage everyone to contact CPB & NPR corporate contributors and let them know intention to boycott their product and services.

I will only suppot public funding of CPB, NPR & public radio if it returns to music and the arts it needs to get out the news & eduication business.

And i will say again George Soros needs to be invesigated this reeks of him.

Mike Miller

October 22nd, 2010
12:15 pm

Gwen Ifill can use her Twitter account to make fun(?) of Sarah Palin, displaying her ignorance of US history in the process, and not get fired. Nina Totenberg hoped that Jesse Helms or his grandchildren die of AIDS, and didn’t get fired. I guess “acting like journalists” is in the eye of the (left-wing Democrat) beholder.

free birth control

October 22nd, 2010
12:21 pm

NPR are racist pigs. They targeted the only black male reporter they had for firing for years.
I am sure that his firng had nothing to do with Soros donating million a few days ago. There is even documentation that Soros wants Liasson out next for his next”donation”. Soros- waht a racist pig. How can liberals be so racist and not be called out?

MjM

October 22nd, 2010
12:23 pm

“some money from CPB does come to us when we win grants”- CEO Vivian Schiller.

Schiller is a lying…. well…. shill.

Follow the money:

CPB is federally (read:taxpayer) funded.

Member stations get 10.1% of their funding from CBP federal tax dollars (not to mention 5.9% from state and local tax payers).

NPR gets 40% of it’s funding from member stations, while also getting grants directly from CBT and other CBT granted foundations.

To suggest the NPR is funded by federal tax dollars only “when we win grants” is a lie.

“There’s the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. They receive $90 million a year ” – CEO Vivian Schiller.

She is lying purposefully, is utterly incompentent, or is just plain stupid. Given her comments, I vote the latter.

CPB’s fiscal 2010 operating budget was $420,000,000.

CPB spent $90 million on radio alone.

Caonabó

October 22nd, 2010
12:26 pm

To maintain its credibility, NPR now needs to fire Vivian Schiller and rehire Juan Williams. NPR now imports news and increasingly hour long features from the British Broadcasting Corp. and it’s beginning to sound like the BBC, not an American news network, which means no minorities on its broadcasting management or broadcast staff. If I were an African American, I would demand that Schiller and her NPR ilk be fired for discrimination under the guise of journalism. The people in charge of the NPR have a very very snobbish attitude toward Americans. It’s not just a sense of elitism, noblesse oblige. It’s the arrogance of affluent East Coast bureaucratic financial-academic snobs, patronizing, whites whose workplaces have long become usufructs for affluent white women and men. The way the anglophiles are going at NPR, it won’t be long before the morning news will begin with the Te Deum, and Hail to the Queen.

nwahs

October 22nd, 2010
12:51 pm

Again Schiller’s math doesn’t add up. 40% of public broadcasting stations revenue comes from tax payer dollars. The other 60% come from private donations. (source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting)

Now consider:

“NPR makes just over half of its money from the fees and dues it charges member stations to receive programming” (source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio)

Over half of NPR revenues come from stations who get 40% of their revenue from tax dollars. That means 20% of NPR’s revenue can easily be traced to tax dollars.

Ron

October 22nd, 2010
1:50 pm

I have one minor problem with Juan Williams’ statement about people in “Muslim clothes”. The hijackers did NOT wear “Muslim” clothes. If the information that was available is to be believed, the hijackers were told to wear Western clothes to blend with the passengers.

john dahodi

October 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm

Thank God, Juan did not comment against Jews, Christians or even Blacks religious outfit; otherwise not only he but his fore fathers would have been deported to his native African State. Now days it is a customary to ridicule Muslims, their religion, their prophet and their dress codes in public media and books because as such they are second class human beings all over the civilized and non-civilized world. Now, I am not surprise to know, why 75% Muslims hate US.

Dr. Terati

October 22nd, 2010
3:24 pm

The writings on the wall…..NPR is a piece of crap and should be dumped….let them try to survive off their nauseating begging and bumper sticker philosophy. Good riddence

Madhatter

October 22nd, 2010
3:25 pm

Since the sum of money that NPR receives from the taxpayer is so paltry according to their own CEO, I expect NPR and liberals will have no problem when these funding lines are removed. Careful what you snark for.

hgdn

October 22nd, 2010
3:55 pm

So, Nina Totenberg can say that if there were “retributive justice” Jesse Helms’ grandchildren would get AIDS. She not only keeps her job, she’s the darling of the station. Nice.

Bohmer

October 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm

Juan provided honest commentary, the type of honesty most of the “PC” world refuses to give. Let’s face it. Juan was railroaded and NPR trampled on the Flag, the Bill of Rights, and our Constitution. NPR just GAVE away one of the biggest assets that they have in Juan Williams. Ya BLEW it NPR, good job Fox, you got a great man!!

waxtadpole

October 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm

What it boils down to is this: like millions of Americans working today, Juan Williams was an “independent contractor” at NPR, his employment at NPR was “at will,” and he could be terminated (and was) without cause and without recourse.

This is what you got when corporations and the “right to work” lobbyists convinced the public that unions were evil. Make no mistake, we may have a democratic form of government, but when corporations like NPR and the rest can run roughshod over their employees and violate basic principles of human decency, we don’t truly live in a democracy.

[...] of local NPR affiliates are talking about withholding pledges. Pastors I know are saying they will never again give to public radio — pastors who also [...]

ex-military

October 22nd, 2010
4:36 pm

Wow, do people who post on this site work for anyone or even for themselves? When you are out in publics representing a business as Juan Williams PBS did, you are a spokes person for that business. When I was in the military, I was America to everyone I dealt with overseas. This is permanently ingrained into the body a core of a soldier. If every time Juan Williams appeared on FOX he represented himself as a journalist, not as PBS, he could say whatever he wanted. But when your name is in the front of a business, I don’t care what business, you better present yourself in the light that makes that business better. If not, you don’t belong out there with that title after your name.

In reality I could care less about Juan, he seemed to be on Fox more than I heard him on NPR, so maybe he belongs there and he can now present himself as Juan Williams, FOX news.

Peachtree Pete

October 22nd, 2010
5:12 pm

I never listen to NPR, just as I never purchase Leftist newspapers or magazines. Unfortunately, a portion of my taxes subsidizes NPR, and I clearly have no control over that. But give additional money to WABE (tax deductible by the way)? Never.

[...] the GOP is screaming to defund NPR. Why is this a straw man? Because, as the CEO of NPR makes clear in this interview, the federal government doesn’t give NPR all that much [...]

Seas

October 22nd, 2010
6:16 pm

The wrong person was fired! Should have been Vivian Schiller! Her comments were unacceptable. Hope Juan sues for the net worth of NPR! Would love to read about the now defunct NPR!

Gina

October 22nd, 2010
6:22 pm

I’m done with NPR.

[...] that fact, Palin and Huckabee can try to hang their hat on this indirect source of federal funding: NPR receives dues payments from member stations. Collectively, [...]

Jerry Hauser

October 22nd, 2010
8:34 pm

I am so upset with NPR and mostly Ms.Vivian Schiller. Ms. Schiller should be fired or step down as Pres. and CEO. She has done more damage that any other person could do. By censoring Juan Williams.
I do not agree with Him on many topics. I do enjoy hearing his expressed opinion. I would never want to shup him up because I disagree with him. I respect Juan Williams and what he says. Interesting enough I do agree with him and see nothing wrong with his feelings on this topic.
SHAME ON YOU VIVIAN SCHILLER YOU MUST QUIT.
I DO ENJOY MANY PROGRAMS ON NPR. BUT I WILL STOP LISTONING FOR NOW IN PROTEST. You Ms. Schiller must step down, you are the one who is bigited.

Sunil

October 22nd, 2010
8:39 pm

Hey America,

Not all Muslims are terrorists. Most of the comments here and elsewhere (including those by Juan Williams) seem to imply that.

If I said I got nervous when a black man got on a plane, would that be ok?

nwahs

October 22nd, 2010
9:21 pm

“Hey America,

Not all Muslims are terrorists. Most of the comments here and elsewhere (including those by Juan Williams) seem to imply that.”

Juan Williams didn’t say that or imply that. Someone lied to you. Juan Williams conveyed an irrational personal anxiety probably brought on by 9-11, just as Jesse Jackson once conveyed an irrational personal anxiety brought about the over representation of minorities in crime statistics.

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about Robbery — then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

Now you can split hairs and say Jesse Jackson isn’t a news analyst, but you can’t paint Juan Williams as evil any more than you can paint Jesse Jackson’s statement as evil. Both statements are an acknowledgement of an effect, not a stand to discriminate against people. Both statements are an innocuous personal anxieties, admittance of conditioned associations.

Before this week, I’d have bet my last dollar there was nothing anyone could say to get me to vote for David Vitter. I think he’s an absolute hypocrite. But as an independent, I have seen the worst of both parties, from race baiting to political correctness run a muck. I’ve been banned from both right and left wing boards for simply stating the truth and backing it with sources. Politics is a vile business that disdains truth. But of both side, I have found the left more devious. They pretend to be tolerant but are actually draconian. Tolerance is a ruse to cloak any type of serpent, and no one had better say they see a serpent. As hypocrites go, I will choose Vitter. At least he isn’t screwing me.

NPR Redefines “Journalist” | oyeahblog

October 22nd, 2010
9:37 pm

[...] a public statement, Vivian Schiller, NPR’s CEO, made an insulting crack that implied Mr. Williams was being treated [...]

J. Weinberg

October 23rd, 2010
12:07 am

Did she just misspeak when she said, “We have a contract with him for analyst OPINIONS to provide news analysis.”

Either she is admitting that he is paid to provide opinions, or she mis spoke, as she did libeling him with her comment about “his psychiatrist.”
It’s ok for her to mis speak, but not Williams?
Face it, this is classic liberal intolerant fascism.

J. Weinberg

October 23rd, 2010
12:17 am

The arrogant, smarmy tone of most NPR lefty journalists is just too repulsive to continue tuning into it. The idea that they offer more objective, more researched reporting is a real joke. We have been listeners for over twenty years, and as a former journalist myself, I can say categorically that they are in no way objective and balanced. The move to the extreme left in tone, reporting, choice of opinions offered etc has become much worse over the years. As a former donor and even sponsor through two of my businesses, I cannot in good faith ever donate to NPR again.
Oh, and Ms. Schiller, you seem to be enamored with Russia and it’s totalitarian culture based on your background; perhaps you’d be more at home working for Pravda.

Fire Schiller

October 23rd, 2010
12:58 am

I am dismayed on how poorly NPR treated Juan Williams. This was pure censorship. If anyone should have been fired it should have been Vivian Schiller. Her arrogance has hurt NPR´s credibility and that of all its affiliates. No federal funds should go to a media organization that lacks objectivity.

Bill Smith

October 23rd, 2010
3:03 am

Schiller is a c n u t

tennessee tom

October 23rd, 2010
6:09 am

damn Juan now knows what a white guy feels like

George R. Coutre

October 23rd, 2010
7:43 am

Can Ms. Schiller tell us why Nina Totenberg is still at NPR with her comments about Jesse Helms & AIDS?

mark

October 23rd, 2010
9:24 am

I guess the best thing to do is remain liberal, shut up, and play dead

Kurt

October 23rd, 2010
11:30 am

For those of your that think he should not have been fired or that his comments were not offensive…

“When I get on the subway, I got to tell you, if I see people
who are in Gangsta garb and I think, you know, they are identifying
themselves first and foremost as Blacks, I get worried. I get nervous.” ~Juan Williams

Would THIS comment have been okay?

Mackmarine

October 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm

To TONY, who said, “God, I miss Daniel Schorr.” Schorr was one of the most obnoxious liars in the world of his style of journalism. Mouthing off and getting fired was his forte, and he got worse and worse as he aged. Of course, his style meshed neatly with NPR’s left-wing style so they hired him. Typical left-wingers leaning on each other. I hope to never hear his voice again.

Tony, why not get some relief and do the rest of us a favor. Just pack it up and join him.

Stuart Berman

October 23rd, 2010
9:30 pm

To quote Juan Williams:
“To say the least this is a chilling assault on free speech. The critical importance of honest journalism and a free flowing, respectful national conversation needs to be had in our country. But it is being buried as collateral damage in a war whose battles include political correctness and ideological orthodoxy.

I say an ideological battle because my comments on “The O’Reilly Factor” are being distorted by the self-righteous ideological, left-wing leadership at NPR. They are taking bits and pieces of what I said to go after me for daring to have a conversation with leading conservative thinkers. They loathe the fact that I appear on Fox News. “

[...] NPR CEO Vivian Schiller explains how Juan Williams has been in trouble with NPR before: Q: So did Juan really get fired over just those Muslim comments? [He said he was uncomfortable with Muslims dressed in traditional garb on airplanes during a Fox News telecast yesterday.] [...]

GH

October 24th, 2010
12:37 am

NPR was well within their rights to fire Williams. Williams a regular guest on Fox and Fox made the most of his NPR affiliation. Whenever he was on he had the label “NPR’s Juan Williams” or something like it on screen under his name. (even though according to this interview he was more like an independent contractor than an employee)
But if Fox is going to label him as representing NPR and NPR’s management has complained about that before then Williams should have objected to the label and made it clear that he was speaking for himself
It’s simple, NPR has the right to decide who represents them and where. If Williams wanted to appear on other venues as private citizen Juan Williams that’s one thing, but if he wants to appear as “NPR’s Juan Williams” then he better clear it with NPR first and abide by NPR’s rules and standards.

GH

October 24th, 2010
12:41 am

@Stuart Berman
Williams is wrong. His right to free speech is intact, he simply has no Constitutional right to be employed by NPR.

I can only hope that if i ever get fired, I have a national soapbox with which to get back at my old boss.

Prof

October 24th, 2010
9:02 am

I have always been a big supporter of NPR. Williams’ firing sickens me.

CALFORD

October 24th, 2010
9:10 am

DIDN’T BILL SAY ON THE VIEW THAT MUSLIM’S CAUSED 911? YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION

Jim Dalrymple

October 24th, 2010
3:35 pm

Jake:

I doubt you ever listened to NPR radio to begin with, so no big loss for NPR.

I wrote a check for $10,000 to NPR to thank them for their courage in combating the evil hatred that was fumed under the Bush administration.

It’s fundraising week at NPR, everyone please donate!

God Bless,

Jim

Citizen of the United States

October 24th, 2010
4:21 pm

This is clearly an act of bias and censorship. I will never contribute to NPR again myself, and will do my best to advocate boycott of the companies – main NPR contributors.

Bill Smith

October 24th, 2010
7:05 pm

Has she resigned yet? Time for her to go.

GH

October 24th, 2010
11:28 pm

It amazes me that so many people don’t understand the First Amendment, or the terms of their own employment. . You DO NOT HAVE Freedom of Speech when it comes to your job. Your employer has the right to base your continued service on both your behavior at work and at home. That’s just the way it is. All these people crying about Williams’ First Amendment rights having been violated must have gone to the same schools as that O’Donnell woman who’s running for something or other in Delaware.
Now perhaps if there were more unions we’d have rights like this but as it is, not so much.

nwahs

October 25th, 2010
11:50 am

“It amazes me that so many people don’t understand the First Amendment, or the terms of their own employment. . You DO NOT HAVE Freedom of Speech when it comes to your job. Your employer has the right to base your continued service on both your behavior at work and at home. That’s just the way it is.”

And it amazes me the some people don’t see the relationship between the democratic ideal of free speech and the Constitutional right of free speech and its importance in this context. Juan Williams wasn’t working as a spokesman for Goodyear tire company. Yes, had some insurance company fired Williams for what he said (google D.C. Douglas and geico) your point would be appropriate.

But NPR is a news organization. It operates on both, the Constitutional right of free speech and the democratic ideal that a civilized society must he the right to speak freely.

So perhaps some of those people amazing you for not understanding, in fact, understand better than you.

John Murphy

October 25th, 2010
11:55 am

I think its sad we have so much fear in the United States. I think people’s opinions are influenced by media more than they are by their real experiences. I also don’t understand how grown adults don’t understand the difference between being a pundit and a journalist. NPR felt his commentary as a pundit undermined his integrity as a journalist and decided to terminate his contract. At the end of the day, when I listen to the news, I want the tools of journalism to remove as much bias as possible. I want facts to be presented as facts. There is no doubt that Juan Williams has a biased opinion regarding Muslims. This limits the topics Williams could act as a news analyst without his bias coming into question. This also wasn’t the first time NPR took issue with his comments as a pundit. I like Juan Williams and think he is a thoughtful and intelligent person. That doesn’t change the fact that working as a pundit was going to lead to his bias being exposed and lead to conflicts with his ability to act as a journalist.

Phillip Marshall

October 25th, 2010
1:04 pm

Vivian Schiller who is going to fire you for saying that Juan Thomas needs a psychiatrist?

Phillip Marshall

October 25th, 2010
1:26 pm

NPR=National Public Radio. From the emails, I surmise that the nation and the public are NOT in favor of Vivian Schiller firing Juan Williams for a comment on a competing news outlet. Can a person fire someone for saying something obvious and true which has nothing to do with their business? Vivian Schiller is a bigot. She is completely against people who state the opinion that they are nervous about flying with a Muslim on board. Would she have wanted to be on these doomed airliners, or next to the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber? I remember I was searched THREE times from the security gate to the entrance to the plane. Why? I had a beard! The U.S. govternment is worried about Muslims. There are U.S. Marshalls on the planes. There are anti liquids rules, anti nail scissors rules, shoe checks and now body scanners. If just getting on a plane doesn’t make you nervous, the metal detectors, the heightened police presence, the body scans, pat downs, hand luggage check should. So Juan Williams states the obvious and gets fired. Viviian Schiller if you are such a contrarian to free speech go to Iran, they will love you. Don’t forget your abaya.

American woman

October 25th, 2010
4:18 pm

This is a wake-up call for America! In my opinion, federal funding for NPR should stop immediately.

Jim

October 25th, 2010
5:33 pm

Again, people have to be reminded that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. Basically it means the state can’t throw you in jail. But a private company does have the right, for better or worse, to sensor or terminate people for their speech. I’d think conservatives would be happy to see a company exercising it’s rights without government intervention. Guess I was wrong. @BRian: Also, I listen to NPR every day and I’d love to know where all these “anti-catholic” stories are they have on. Could you go to NPR.org and point them out over the past week? I mean since they’re daily it should be easy to find 7 “anti-catholic” stories. I really get sick and tired of people who don’t listen to NPR (or other things for that matter) passing judgment without either getting all the facts or only getting them from other sources. You’d be surprised what you will discover when you go to the source of the information (like the president of the company, the bill, the court document, etc) instead of letting pundits with motivated self interest tell you what to think. I mean SERIOUSLY, people who are writing “Pull their gov’t funding” didn’t even READ the whole story. Because if you did, you’d know that it’s only 1-3% of all their revenue and pulling, while it might sting briefly, is not going to do whatever it is you think it will do. Did you even also bother to read that Mara Liasson is also on Fox and NPR?? Did you? Did you? I don’t agree with the firing but after getting all the facts I understand why they did it and it doesn’t affect my opinion of them one bit. Any more than ditching Combs of Hannity and Combs doesn’t affect Fox News watchers.

bv

October 25th, 2010
6:13 pm

I can disagree with you and it doesn’t matter; you can disagree with me and it doesn’t matter. But when a person is fired because someone disagrees with him, it’s gone too far. Most liberals hate the constitution anyway – especially the 1st and 2nd amendments. This is just another form of mind control and they do not deserve a penny of taxpayer money to provide anything like it.

Don

October 26th, 2010
10:44 am

well said bv

Jim

October 26th, 2010
11:01 am

@bv As a liberal I do disagree with you. I love the 1st and 2nd amendment. I own several pistols and shotguns and used to do skeet and trap shooting. But still you miss all the points. Freedom of Speech DOES NOT mean Freedom FROM consequences and that’s what we’re dealing with here, whether you disagree or not. What it means is the government can’t do something to you, like throw you into a gulag or label you a dissident and throw you in jail. And all media is a form of brainwashing, including Fox News. And still NPR would live on, even if they had no government money.